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● Oct 22
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR	get a call at 3am because server is down
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR	that's not how it should be
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR	employers need to delegate based on individual skills
[00:00]	schestowitz-TR	they now underpay workers by giving them too many responsibilities
[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	devsecop = babysitterCookNurse
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[00:01]	schestowitz-TR	JanitorTellerDoorman
[00:02]	schestowitz-TR	sometimes you have to bark back at the employer, reminding the boss what your role is
[00:02]	schestowitz-TR	because they cannot expect you to do every role
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	if you accept a promotion of pay hike, they might then "expect" you, in return, to also take on more task
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	so you don't take a pay increase
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	you increase the hours worked
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	humans can feasibly work 120 hours a week
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR	standard is 40 hours in "the west"
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR	many with high salaries are made to work like 80
[00:04]	activelow	the university schedule sufficed for three different studies, at least
[00:05]	activelow	which makes me wonder, if any of the university staff themselves followed this type of schedule
[00:05]	activelow	worst of it was the confusion, the chaos
[00:06]	activelow	oracle data bases, java, and analog signal processing in parallel? what a nonsense was this?
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR	but what topics of motifs?
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR	oracle only?
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR	sql is not oracle
[00:06]	activelow	i tried to keep it brief
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR	maybe oracle 'donated' a lab on campus
[00:07]	activelow	YES
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR	we learned a little 'oracle' but not as a central thing
[00:07]	activelow	among many other generous donations
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR	it was just some demo, the principles of sql were taught instead
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR	back then mysql was very young
[00:08]	activelow	sql was only a side track
[00:08]	activelow	the real stuff was maths and electronics
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR	eww
[00:08]	activelow	that's why, i am confused still
[00:08]	activelow	real science
[00:08]	activelow	that's why,... it is so sad
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR	oracle is a perpetrator of us empire/'back doors
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR	literally started with CIA support
[00:09]	activelow	none of my concerns, that's the point
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	a verified and established facts
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR	germany has its own databases
[00:09]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybase
[00:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sybase - Wikipedia
[00:10]	activelow	of cause, telekom is "connected" to various political institutions
[00:10]	activelow	reminder, it was a german telekom hacker who introduced "heartbleed" into openssl
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	yes, I remember
[00:10]	activelow	which too, is little relevant
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	germany was so proud
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR	mr. oops
[00:10]	activelow	relative to the enormous efforts required to maintain the bloat and clusterf*** they created in the last decades
[00:11]	schestowitz	Family Matters Compilation - "Did I do that?" (every moment) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xz3ZOoYSMuw #video #invidious #multimedia  | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/22/#latest
[00:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Family Matters Compilation - "Did I do that?" (every moment) - Invidious
[00:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[00:12]	activelow	i am far less concerned about any agency spying stuff, it's annoying, yes, but the real deal will be if critical infrastructure can be maintained anymore
[00:12]	activelow	which i doubt it can be
[00:13]	activelow	systems will, i suspect, continue reliable operation, but a future generation will not be able anymore to reconstruct anything from schematics, documentation, simplified speaking
[00:13]	schestowitz-TR	it's too large
[00:13]	activelow	there won't be any capable management anymore who keeps oversight
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	well, some people will drown in digital quicksand
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	like chrome 
[00:14]	activelow	recent argument was: "the market" will do, and "globalization" and blah... which is a deflection, to reject any responsibility, of those who were paid for taking it, responsibility
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	meanwhile some of us can read books in gemini on some very simple OS
[00:14]	activelow	if you can affort the rent
[00:14]	activelow	for your flat
[00:14]	schestowitz-TR	I don't need no "phone" and "apps"
[00:15]	DaemonFC	https://www.pcmag.com/news/company-that-buys-zero-day-hacks-now-wants-exploits-for-popular-vpns
[00:15]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/company-that-buys-zero-day-hacks-now-wants-exploits-for-popular-vpns
[00:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Company That Buys Zero-Day Hacks Now Wants Exploits for Popular VPNs | PCMag
[00:16]	DaemonFC	https://www.pcmag.com/news/expressvpn-cio-helped-united-arab-of-emirates-hack-into-phones-computers
[00:16]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/expressvpn-cio-helped-united-arab-of-emirates-hack-into-phones-computers
[00:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ExpressVPN CIO Helped United Arab Emirates Hack Into Phones, Computers | PCMag
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[00:29]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: tor over vpn :-)
[00:29]	schestowitz-TR2	in mozilla firefox :-)
[00:30]	techrights-news	How I customize my KDE Plasma Desktop - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=A0LiFu1eaMs #video #gnu #linux
[00:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How I customize my KDE Plasma Desktop - Invidious
[00:31]	techrights-news	Today my T-Mobile Galaxy S20 FE 5G decided that the ringer wont work for some reason. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/today-my-t-mobile-galaxy-s20-fe-5g-decided-that-the-ringer-wont-work-for-some-reason/
[00:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Today my T-Mobile Galaxy S20 FE 5G decided that the ringer wont work for some reason. BaronHK's Rants
[00:31]	techrights-news	[Meme] Don't Mention 'Brexit' to #TeamUPC http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/brexit-and-team-upc/ #upc #europe #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent
[00:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Dont Mention Brexit to Team UPC | Techrights
[00:33]	techrights-news	#Oracle Releases #GraalVM 21.3 With #Java 17 Support, Other Enhancements https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GraalVM-21.3-Released
[00:33]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GraalVM-21.3-Released
[00:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Oracle Releases GraalVM 21.3 With Java 17 Support, Other Enhancements - Phoronix
[00:34]	techrights-news	33 Oddly Satisfying #Photos Of Interesting Things https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/mildly-interesting-photos/
[00:34]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/mildly-interesting-photos/
[00:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | 33 Oddly Satisfying Photos Of Interesting Things
[00:35]	techrights-news	What limitations does the #RaspberryPi have? | ITIGIC - TechStony https://techstony.com/what-limitations-does-the-raspberry-pi-have-itigic/ #techstony
[00:35]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: techstony.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techstony.com/what-limitations-does-the-raspberry-pi-have-itigic/
[00:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What limitations does the Raspberry Pi have? | ITIGIC - TechStony
[00:37]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/replacement-t-mobile-home-internet-nokia-trash-can-modem-arrives-dies-five-minutes-after-i-turn-it-on-and-i-had-to-explain-reboot-loop-to-the-tech-support/
[00:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Replacement T-Mobile Home Internet Nokia Trash Can modem arrives, dies five minutes after I turn it on, and I had to explain reboot loop to the tech support. BaronHK's Rants
[00:38]	techrights-news	The princess of dorks https://imgur.com/t/cats/XuwleXf
[00:38]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The princess of dorks - Album on Imgur
[00:38]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/XuwleXf
[00:39]	techrights-news	#HowTo get useful answers to your questions https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/10/21/how-to-get-useful-answers-to-your-questions/ #jvns
[00:39]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: jvns.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://jvns.ca/blog/2021/10/21/how-to-get-useful-answers-to-your-questions/
[00:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jvns.ca | How to get useful answers to your questions
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: sounds like typical outsourcing
[00:40]	techrights-news	"So far I have not seen anyone advocating for remaining on Gitlab, and I have seen plenty of people advocating for Sourcehut or something similarly simple. Additionally, the specification currently has no maintainer." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007336.html
[00:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini on Sourcehut (was Re: News----good, bad, ugly? You decide (was Re: [spec] comments on the proposed gemini spec revisions))
[00:40]	techrights-news	#MiguelDeIcaza on CEO of #Microsoft #GitHub http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/dark-side-of-github/ #deletegithub #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza
[00:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Miguel de Icaza on CEO of Microsoft GitHub | Techrights
[00:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza - Techrights
[00:41]		*AdmFubar1 (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights
[00:41]	AdmFubar1	oooohhh sweet I can be logged in on to different machines..
[00:43]	techrights-news	Almost nobody in the #uk chooses to go through with this anymore (about 20k-30k per day, less than a million per month; now they target kids to avoid the curves going completely flat) https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations
[00:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations )
[00:44]	AdmFubar1	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/massive-campaign-uses-youtube-to-push-password-stealing-malware/
[00:44]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/massive-campaign-uses-youtube-to-push-password-stealing-malware/
[00:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Massive campaign uses YouTube to push password-stealing malware
[00:45]	techrights-news	#EPO budget spent on #greenwashing dross to distract from the EPO's #crimes https://pressreleases.responsesource.com/news/101903/tomorrow-s-plastics-patent-data-reveals-companies-in-consumer-goods/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/23/epo-china-greenwashing/ Response Source Press Release Wire isn't a news site
[00:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pressreleases.responsesource.com | Tomorrows plastics: Patent data reveals companies in consumer goods industry with high rate of innovation in bioplastics
[00:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Latest Greenwashing Campaign by the EPO is Just Chinese Propaganda | Techrights
[00:46]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, I added a photo.
[00:46]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/replacement-t-mobile-home-internet-nokia-trash-can-modem-arrives-dies-five-minutes-after-i-turn-it-on-and-i-had-to-explain-reboot-loop-to-the-tech-support/
[00:46]	DaemonFC	How's that look?
[00:46]	schestowitz-TR2	I will get around to that later
[00:46]	schestowitz-TR2	RSS feed
[00:47]	techrights-news	#epo produces #propaganda and lies about #patents as if #monopolies will save the planet https://packagingeurope.com/european-patent-office-reports-on-plastic-recycling-future/ see http://techrights.org/2021/04/15/bundestagate-part-19/
[00:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-packagingeurope.com | European Patent Office reports on the future of plastic recycling and bioplastics - Packaging Europe
[00:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 19: The Deafening Silence of the Media | Techrights
[00:48]	techrights-news	The EPO's paid-for #propaganda is even being reprinted in #India https://www.dtnext.in/Lifestyle/Technology/2021/10/20003401/1324642/Patents-to-tackle-plastic-waste-on-the-rise.vpf see http://techrights.org/2020/09/23/epo-china-greenwashing/
[00:48]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patents to tackle plastic waste on the rise - DTNext.in
[00:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, The lady asked if I knew much about computers.
[00:48]	techrights-news	If you see some publications printing #epo propaganda by all means publicly ask them, how much did the corrupt EPO PAY you to publish this junk? Did they also write it themselves? Did they pay 1000 euros? More? See their reaction. No site wants to be exposed as a bribed #propagandaMill (which is what many of them are these days)
[00:48]	DaemonFC	I told her I was programming my Commodore in BASIC when I was 5.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	"Commodore licensed BASIC from Microsoft in 1977 on a "pay once, no royalties" basis after Jack Tramiel turned down Bill Gates' offer of a $3 per unit fee, stating, "I'm already married," and would pay no more than $25,000 for a perpetual license.[1]"
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Said "I'm already married." to Bill Gates.....
[00:50]	DaemonFC	LOL
[00:51]	techrights-news	zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): " #UPC and SMEs, the 20.000EUR court fees to invalidate a patent of a troll #upc #smes #disaster #europe #patent #cheaper " | nitter https://nitter.eu/zoobab/status/1450852065966764034 #nitter #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent
[00:51]	DaemonFC	Gates probably replied with whatever the 1977 version of "Well, I'm down with the clown if you are!" was.
[00:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | zoobab "NO Software Patents" (@zoobab): "UPC and SMEs, the 20.000EUR court fees to invalidate a patent of a troll #upc #smes #disaster #europe #patent #cheaper" | nitter
[00:51]	techrights-news	"The workaround is the best-kept secret of the EU: after more than 5 years nobody knows how it works" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/19/slovenia-ratifies-ppa-and-unifed-patent-court-agreement/#comments magine if people wrote articles like the comments here instead of the Team UPC echo chamber that poisons the #www (spamfarm). #teamUPC #corruption #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent
[00:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Slovenia ratifies PPA and Unifed Patent Court Agreement - Kluwer Patent Blog
[00:51]	DaemonFC	My attorney standardized on Microsoft and then she too was down with the Clown.
[00:52]	techrights-news	#GeminiProtocol and #GeminiSpace Are Not a Niche; for Techrights, Gemini Means Half a Million Page Requests a Month http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/gemini-space-not-a-niche-anymore/ #techrights #internet
[00:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Protocol and Gemini Space Are Not a Niche; for Techrights, Gemini Means Half a Million Page Requests a Month | Techrights
[00:52]	techrights-news	The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part IXX: The Baltic States http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/epo-baltic-states-votes/ #epo #patents #europe #corruption
[00:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part IXX: The Baltic States | Techrights
[00:53]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: choose a clolwn, get a circus
[00:55]	techrights-news	#upc #europe #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent #eu http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/brexit-and-team-upc/
[00:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Dont Mention Brexit to Team UPC | Techrights
[00:55]	DaemonFC	Are u down with the clown? Are u a juggaboo?
[00:55]		*DaemonFC laughs
[00:56]	techrights-news	'Satellite States' of EPO Autocrats http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/satellite-states-epo/ #epo #patents #europe #corruption
[00:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Satellite States of EPO Autocrats | Techrights
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[00:56]	DaemonFC	Fucking magnets. How do they work?
[00:56]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[00:56]	techrights-news	Bright Lightbulb Saves Old #Radios | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/20/bright-lightbulb-saves-old-radios/ #hackaday
[00:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bright Lightbulb Saves Old Radios | Hackaday
[00:57]	MinceR	:>
[00:57]	techrights-news	#torproject adds another anti- #rms and anti- Torvalds person https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/10255.html #tor rewritten in #microsoft -controlled framework. Incredible stupidity, vandalism almost.
[00:57]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: dreamwidth.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/10255.html
[00:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diziet.dreamwidth.org | diziet | Going to work for the Tor Project
[00:57]		*leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights
[00:57]	techrights-news	#ProprietarySoftware https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ics/advisories/icsma-21-294-01
[00:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | B. Braun Infusomat Space Large Volume Pump | CISA
[00:58]	techrights-news	#geminiProtocol now on more freedom-respecting platform https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007342.html #freesw #internet
[00:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini on Sourcehut (was Re: News----good, bad, ugly? You decide (was Re: [spec] comments on the proposed gemini spec revisions))
[00:59]	techrights-news	#Ubuntu 21.10 Released and Finally Includes #GNOME 40 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31473
[00:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[00:59]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157056 #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
● Oct 22
[01:00]	techrights-news	I Spy With My #RaspberryPi, Doom Running in a Skulls Eye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157055 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | I Spy With My Raspberry Pi, Doom Running in a Skull's Eye | Tux Machines
[01:01]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157054 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[01:01]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157053 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[01:03]	techrights-news	#SystemdFree #MXLinux 21 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157052 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd-Free MX Linux 21 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
[01:03]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157058 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[01:03]	techrights-news	#RaspberryPi #Tablet Gets Radio Surgical Enhancement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157057 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:03]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Tablet Gets Radio Surgical Enhancement | Tux Machines
[01:04]	techrights-news	Audio/Videos: Ubuntu Kylin, Hideo Kojima, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157059 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audio/Videos: Ubuntu Kylin, Hideo Kojima, and More | Tux Machines
[01:04]	techrights-news	Links 21/10/2021: #MXLinux 21 and Git Contributors Summit in a Nutshell http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/git-contributors-summit/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/21/git-contributors-summit/
[01:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/10/2021: MX Linux 21 and Git Contributors Summit in a Nutshell | Techrights
[01:05]	techrights-news	#Games: Escape Simulator, Steam Digital Tabletop Fest RPG Edition, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157060 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Escape Simulator, Steam Digital Tabletop Fest RPG Edition, and More | Tux Machines
[01:05]	techrights-news	#Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157061 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:06]	techrights-news	Company That Buys Zero-Day Hacks Now Wants Exploits for Popular VPNs https://www.pcmag.com/news/company-that-buys-zero-day-hacks-now-wants-exploits-for-popular-vpns
[01:06]		-altlink_19b/#techrights- Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/news/company-that-buys-zero-day-hacks-now-wants-exploits-for-popular-vpns
[01:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Company That Buys Zero-Day Hacks Now Wants Exploits for Popular VPNs | PCMag
[01:06]	techrights-news	#ExpressVPN compromised https://web.archive.org/web/20211015015352/https://www.pcmag.com/news/expressvpn-cio-helped-united-arab-of-emirates-hack-into-phones-computers #vpn #uae
[01:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | ExpressVPN CIO Helped United Arab Emirates Hack Into Phones, Computers | PCMag
[01:07]	techrights-news	It's not "Linux wget command", it's a #gnu program and you can run it without #linux https://opensource.com/article/21/10/linux-wget-command see http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 handy tricks for using the Linux wget command | Opensource.com
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
[01:07]	techrights-news	"The saddest thing is that the "solution" they found uses TikTok, which requires people to run nonfree software which will make them identify themselves." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#21_October_2021_%28Famous_nudes_from_museums%29
[01:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[01:08]	AdmFubar1	 ol' jack tramiel was a character 
[01:09]	schestowitz-TR2	who is that? :-)  something on TV?
[01:09]	techrights-news	#Techrights on gemini:// has become very big and well soon regenerate all the pages (about 37,500 of them) to improve clarity, consistency, and general integrity http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/gemini-space-not-a-niche-anymore/
[01:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Protocol and Gemini Space Are Not a Niche; for Techrights, Gemini Means Half a Million Page Requests a Month | Techrights
[01:10]	techrights-news	Our ongoing series, which is very long, will shed much-needed light on #GitHub and its goals (the dark side is a lot darker than people care to realise) http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/dark-side-of-github/ #deletegithub
[01:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Miguel de Icaza on CEO of Microsoft GitHub | Techrights
[01:10]	techrights-news	Today we look more closely at how Baltic states were rendered 'voting fodder' by large European states, looking to rubber-stamp new and oppressive measures which disempower the masses http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/satellite-states-epo/
[01:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Satellite States of EPO Autocrats | Techrights
[01:10]	techrights-news	It seems perfectly clear that #UPC cannot start, contrary to what the EPOs #AntnioCampinos told the Council last week (lying, as usual) and what the #EPO insinuates in #Twitter http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/brexit-and-team-upc/
[01:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Dont Mention Brexit to Team UPC | Techrights
[01:11]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYhuDCs2zCc
[01:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Daniel Boaventura - I Love the Nightlife (Ao Vivo) - YouTube
[01:11]	DaemonFC	I like this song. There's a web app I have to use that prints PDF to a file as .action
[01:12]	techrights-news	unsurprisingly
[01:12]	DaemonFC	I always shout "Dot actSHON!".
[01:12]	techrights-news	How unlawful #EPO rules were unsurprisingly supported by Benot Battistellis friends in #Baltic states; #AntnioCampinos maintained those same unlawful rules and Baltic connections http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/epo-baltic-states-votes/
[01:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part IXX: The Baltic States | Techrights
[01:12]	DaemonFC	Mandy looks at me.
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[01:14]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O9OmyV7BhY
[01:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Love The Nightlife (Disco Round) - Alicia Bridges - HQ - YouTube
[01:14]	DaemonFC	MARISOL didn't seem to enjoy the fact that her family was enjoying my karaoke singing.
[01:17]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, It seems Vivaldi will end up being in Flatpak soon, perhaps.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	Vivaldi is better at translating Russian than it is at Korean.
[01:18]	DaemonFC	Their Korean to English translations are barely understandable.
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[01:23]	DaemonFC	"Transmission can be redistributed and/or modified under the terms of the GNU GPL versions 2 or 3 or by any future license endorsed by Mnemosyne LLC."
[01:23]	DaemonFC	Mnemosyne LLC?
[01:24]	DaemonFC	"Recieved Notice from TIME WARNER for copyright enfringement!
[01:24]	DaemonFC	Doesnt Support encryption. BEWARE.
[01:24]	DaemonFC	Utter trash and will likely get you into legal trouble!"
[01:24]	AdmFubar1	as good as dirty hungarian translation book?
[01:25]	DaemonFC	-GNOMG Software review of QBittorrent
[01:25]	DaemonFC	*GNOME
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[01:25]	DaemonFC	Hungary has better broadband than America does.
[01:25]	DaemonFC	We were doing better than MinceR until T-Mobile I guess.
[01:27]	AdmFubar1	:P
[01:27]	AdmFubar1	everywhere has better broadband then the states
[01:32]	activelow	libsoup API changed and required interfaces are gone, and so is webkit-gtk-1.x
[01:32]	activelow	and i think, downgrading an entire distro to year 2013 isn't desireable too, because, for example, TLS/openssl updates which servers probably will insist upon one day
[01:34]	leah	schestowitz-TR2: btw, the gemini conversion for libreboot.org is complete
[01:34]	leah	it's not live yet. at least, gemini://libreboot.org/ doesn't exist yet
[01:34]	DaemonFC	Not Mexico.
[01:35]	leah	but i have all the gemtext now. most of the site is converted. i'm going to have a go at it, setting up gemini://
[01:39]	DaemonFC	I went ahead and rebooted into Linux 5.10.70 for a moment to remove the unsigned 5.14.19 kernel and install the linux-signed-amd64 meta from Debian 11 Backports.
[01:39]	leah	>https://techrights.org/2021/10/07/ibm-vs-fsf-is-a-failure/
[01:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Declares Defeat/Failure, Shuts Down Campaign of Anti-Richard Stallman Rhetoric (Defamation) | Techrights
[01:39]	leah	schestowitz-TR2: molly got fired?
[01:39]	DaemonFC	It follows the latest backported kernel so I shouldn't need to intervene every time there's an update.
[01:40]	leah	oh wow deb stepped down too
[01:41]	AdmFubar1	https://www.protocol.com/policy/isp-ftc-data
[01:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ISPs have so much data on you - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
[01:43]	leah	schestowitz-TR2: thanks. this made my day
[01:43]	leah	two of my least favourite people have less power/influence
[01:57]	activelow	AdmFubar1: by default they got everything from everyone
[01:58]	leah	schestowitz-TR2: mdb seems to still be unemployed. i checked her twitter. serves her right. all of the people who abused their positions to run that awful smear campaign against rms should lose their positions of power
[01:59]	leah	unfortunately, such people just move from one thing to the next, and regain all their power
[01:59]	activelow	i think, the challenge is to process all the data, and how much of it
[01:59]	leah	they will come back. it'll be different names each time, but it'll be the same people more or less, from the same group. never get complacent. they will always come back, again and again. we need to be ready
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[02:03]	activelow	this was a requirement i received some time ago: implement nosql db per user (configurable), collect all URLs, implement adapters for twitter/facebook/etc..., crawl them, extract content, extract names, dates, locations, store this
[02:04]	activelow	then, implement some classifiers
[02:05]	activelow	some trivial algorithms exist, such as language skills (sentence length etc, richness of vocabulary), match content against pre-defined criteria etc.
[02:06]	activelow	such as, for example, if a persons interests meet another specific criteria, most of this is trivial, except for runtime performance
[02:08]	activelow	some of this is relevant for ad-placement, some other specific classifiers are more refined, such as matching recommended pharmacy to symptoms
[02:09]	activelow	which was funny somehow, 5 years ago long before covid, "face masks" matched rather prominently, if the algorithms were not implemented correctly
[02:10]	activelow	with a mild cough reported as symptom, nothing but face masks in top100, if the algorithm wasn't tuned
[02:11]	activelow	this was 2016, in 2018 i talked to some company in germany, job placement, specialized in epidemic data collection and genome stuff
[02:11]	activelow	somehow i feel, there was something in preparation, long before the covid spook began
[02:13]	activelow	end of 2017 IBM offered job placement, i denied
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[03:50]	leah	https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=xuCn8ux2gbs
[03:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vid.puffyan.us | history of the entire world, i guess - Invidious
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[04:29]	DaemonFC	I watched Dune part 1.
[04:30]	DaemonFC	Overall, good movie. Excellent production value. Good acting.
[04:30]	DaemonFC	Not happy with the Baron Harkonnen though.
[04:30]	DaemonFC	They've turned him into something....else. Like, a creature from hell.
[04:31]	DaemonFC	Ian McNiece played him better.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	He's been overshadowed by Beast Rabban.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	Mostly because the guy is played by Dave Bautista.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	It's like the Baron himself has almost been relegated to an afterthought.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	Most of this is closer to the book, but the Baron was a major character there.
[04:49]	DaemonFC	https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-oppose-riaas-worldwide-blocking-injunction-and-massive-damages-211020/
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[04:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube Rippers Oppose RIAA's Worldwide 'Blocking' Injunction & Massive Damages * TorrentFreak
[04:49]	DaemonFC	No self-respecting pirate woudl rip YouTube if there was any other choice.
[04:51]	DaemonFC	I agree with Stallman in part and disagree with Stallman in part about games.
[04:51]	DaemonFC	I think in particular avoiding Steam and Steam OS and telling people not to use them is good.
[04:51]	DaemonFC	But if a program is "just" a video game and nothing else and doesn't impose DRM, I don't see much harm.
[04:53]	DaemonFC	Some of these new video games basically make the game unplayable by default now and load the patches from the server each time you start the game. If you start it with no internet connection, the game becomes progressively more difficult until it's just not fun.
[04:59]	activelow	i had an idea, such as, fully disconnect internet, and insist on job placement as computer scientist (or any other scientist)
● Oct 22
[05:01]	activelow	DaemonFC: you are wrong, there is no "just" video game, there is none, except if tetris, snake or a chess program were on your list of DRM free fun
[05:03]	DaemonFC	They're putting a lot more effort into making the DRM too annoying and broken to consider buying the game than they are the game on most new titles.
[05:11]	DaemonFC	"
[05:11]	DaemonFC	We want you to know
[05:11]	DaemonFC	Luna Controller requires a Windows driver to play games over Bluetooth outside of Amazon Luna. Download here."
[05:11]	DaemonFC	Is anyone working on a Linux driver for Amazon's Luna Controller?
[05:11]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.13-Amazon-Game-Control
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[05:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.13 Adds Support For The Amazon Luna Game Controller - Phoronix
[05:12]	DaemonFC	Well, I guess Amazon was wrong then. No Windows driver required as long as you have at least Linux 5.13.
[05:15]	DaemonFC	How is Dune only #5 on the top 10 pirated movies for the week?
[05:16]	DaemonFC	That's been like the only movie they've released all year that was actually worth watching.
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[06:19]	activelow	https://dpaste.com/9T3JGVFES
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[06:20]	activelow	"* You really really should be enabling OpenGL!" No, you should NOT whenever wherever possible!!!
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[06:25]	activelow	regardless of the fact opengl is patent-encumbered since microsoft acquired some
[06:35]	activelow	not only should it be deactivated, it should be fully removed. as soon as either software and/or hardware support for this is present this builds up a gigantic dependency graph of vendor-specific crap controlled by hostile business.
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[06:59]	techrights-news	#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, October 21, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[06:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[06:59]	techrights-news	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[06:59]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
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[07:01]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DataSwamp #BSD What if Internet stops? How to rebuild an offline federated infrastructure using OpenBSD https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2021-10-21-huge-disaster-recovery-plan.html
[07:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : What if Internet stops? How to rebuild an offline federated infrastructure using OpenBSD
[07:01]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheHill #FB #Facebook agrees to compensate French newspapers for content https://thehill.com/policy/technology/577807-facebook-agrees-to-compensate-french-newspapers-for-content
[07:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook agrees to compensate French newspapers for content | TheHill
[07:06]	techrights-news	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #ITWire Windows REvil ransomware gang taken down by US spies and allies: claim https://itwire.com/security/windows-revil-ransomware-gang-taken-down-by-us-spies-and-allies-claim.html
[07:06]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/windows-revil-ransomware-gang-taken-down-by-us-spies-and-allies-claim.html
[07:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Windows REvil ransomware gang taken down by US spies and allies: claim
[07:07]	techrights-news	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #NBC Governments turn tables on ransomware gang REvil by pushing it offline https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/governments-turn-tables-ransomware-gang-revil-pushing-offline-rcna3547
[07:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Governments turn tables on ransomware gang REvil by pushing it offline
[07:07]	techrights-news	 NEWS #GlobalEncryptionDay #Confidentiality Make the Switch https://ged.globalencryption.org/
[07:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ged.globalencryption.org | GED Home - Make the Switch
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[07:07]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheNextWeb #Confidentiality Edward Snowden: If you weaken encryption, people will die https://thenextweb.com/news/edward-snowden-warns-encryption-is-under-attack
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[07:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenextweb.com | Edward Snowden: If you weaken encryption, people will die
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[08:24]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheTelegraphUK #Politics #Facebook is so toxic its no wonder #Zuckerberg wants to drag us into his metaverse https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/10/21/facebook-toxic-no-wonder-zuckerberg-wants-drag-us-metaverse/
[08:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Facebook is so toxic its no wonder Zuckerberg wants to drag us into his metaverse
[08:24]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheHill #Politics Trading in Trump-linked SPAC halted as shares soar on #socialcontrolmedia deal https://thehill.com/policy/finance/other/577815-trading-in-trump-linked-spac-halted-as-shares-soar-on-social-media-deal
[08:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trading in Trump-linked SPAC halted as shares soar on social media deal | TheHill
[08:25]	schestowitz	[01:59] <leah> they will come back. it'll be different names each time, but it'll be the same people more or less, from the same group. never get complacent. they will always come back, again and again. we need to be ready
[08:25]	schestowitz	they need to change strategies
[08:25]	schestowitz	notice they alter a little
[08:25]	schestowitz	2019: RMS is something... children
[08:25]	schestowitz	2021: RMS is something... women
[08:25]	schestowitz	because they realised the fact had not been on their side
[08:26]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CNBC #Politics Shares of Trump-linked SPAC close up 350% following news of #socialcontrolmedia deal https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/21/trump-linked-spac-shares-soar-more-than-40percent-on-news-of-social-media-deal.html
[08:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Trump SPAC shares DWAC soar on social media deal news
[08:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #MexicoNewsDaily #Misinformation #Disinformation Residents bring down drone believing it was spreading #COVID19 https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/residents-bring-down-drone-believing-it-was-spreading-covid-19/
[08:27]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mexiconewsdaily.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/residents-bring-down-drone-believing-it-was-spreading-covid-19/
[08:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mexiconewsdaily.com | Residents bring down drone believing it was spreading COVID-19
[08:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #ForeignPolicy #Misinformation #Disinformation U.S. Army Failed to Warn Troops About #COVID19 Disinformatio https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/10/21/us-army-covid-19-disinformation-russia-china/
[08:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-foreignpolicy.com | U.S. Army Failed to Warn Troops About COVID-19 Disinformation
[08:27]	techrights-news	 NEWS #NBC #Misinformation #Disinformation China-linked disinformation campaign blames Covid on #Maine lobsters https://www.nbcnews.com/news/china-linked-disinformation-campaign-blames-covid-maine-lobsters-rcna3236
[08:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | China-linked disinformation campaign blames Covid on Maine lobsters
[08:28]	leah	schestowitz: anyone can tell their claims were exagerated
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR2	or worse
[08:28]	schestowitz-TR2	made up in places..
[08:28]	leah	he wasn't allowed to win
[08:29]	schestowitz	example http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/
[08:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights
[08:38]	schestowitz	"You can read the full report here, including the individual opinions on the seven documents."
[08:38]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/sc21120cp_with_annexes.pdf
[08:43]	techrights-news	 [Old] #AmnestyInternational #PressFreedom The US diplomatic assurances are inherently unreliable. Julian #Assange must be released https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/07/the-us-diplomatic-assurances-are-inherently-unreliable-julian-assange-must-be-released/
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[08:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amnesty.org | The US diplomatic assurances are inherently unreliable. Julian Assange must be released - Amnesty International
[08:43]	techrights-news	 NEWS #VOANews #pressFreedom Slovenian PM Rattled by Low Marks on Rights, Press Freedom https://www.voanews.com/a/slovenia-janez-jansa-rattled-by-low-marks-on-rights-press-freedom/6280160.html
[08:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Slovenian PM Rattled by Low Marks on Rights, Press Freedom
[08:44]	techrights-news	 NEWS #RFERL #pressFreedom #Taliban Strikes Journalists In #Kabul As Women Protest For Their Rights https://gandhara.rferl.org/a/taliban-violence-journalists-women-protest/31522548.html
[08:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gandhara.rferl.org | Taliban Strikes Journalists In Kabul As Women Protest For Their Rights
[08:45]	leah	schestowitz: these people marched in and said: this is how it's going to be
[08:45]	leah	this is what we demand, and this is what you're all going to give us, and this is what we will do to you. because we said so. and this man has to go, because we don't like him
[08:46]	leah	the arrogance of it was truly disgusting, and they weren't expecting to be challenged. they got away with it in 2019 and briefly walked all over the fsf. lp2021 is a shining example of that, if you look at the list of speakers there
[08:46]	leah	a few of us spoke out and said no, and that was all that was needed
[08:46]	leah	these people just needed to hear the word no
[08:47]	leah	"no" is a weird they're not comfortable with
[08:47]	leah	word*
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR2	they tear things down
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR2	btw
[08:47]	schestowitz-TR2	ibm is collapsing
[08:48]	leah	i can't explain verbally the feeling i have when saying this. everything i did back then was pure instinct. i knew in my gut that what these pretenders were doing was wrong, they were bullies, and i had to put a stop to them
[08:48]	schestowitz-TR2	the media doesn't mention this
[08:48]	schestowitz-TR2	you can ask ibm and red hat insiders
[08:48]	leah	*i* had to put a stop to them. a lot of us felt the same way
[08:48]	leah	these people only win when they're unopposed
[08:48]	leah	as soon as they're challenged, they crumble
[08:49]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheHill #pressFreedom Poll: Voters trust ABC, CNN most, Fox News least among mainstream news outlets https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/577828-poll-voters-generally-trust-abc-cnn-most-fox-news-least-among
[08:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Poll: Voters trust ABC, CNN most, Fox News least among mainstream news outlets | TheHill
[08:49]	schestowitz-TR2	leah: yes, same for team UPC
[08:49]	schestowitz-TR2	they hate it when brexit is brought up
[08:49]	schestowitz-TR2	they would not argue back
[08:49]	leah	schestowitz-TR2: i assume you know about the mollamby scandal
[08:49]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[08:49]	leah	yeah and then that witch had the absolute gall to do what she did with rms in march 2021
[08:50]	schestowitz-TR2	anti-harassment teams...
[08:50]	leah	her newfound situation is what she deserves. we collectively put her and her ilk in their place. but make no mistake:
[08:50]	schestowitz-TR2	they become revenge-teams
[08:50]	leah	her kind still thrives and is still in control
[08:50]	schestowitz-TR2	and facts get cast out the window
[08:50]	schestowitz-TR2	it's about settling scores
[08:50]	leah	molly de blanc is down. but neil mcgovern isn't
[08:50]	leah	these people are going to strike again
[08:50]	leah	and their target will change
[08:50]	leah	next time it might be me
[08:51]	leah	or you
[08:51]	leah	we'll never know until it happens
[08:51]	schestowitz-TR2	oliva was a target
[08:51]	schestowitz-TR2	they dug up things he said as a student
[08:51]	schestowitz-TR2	like 1980s and 1990s
[08:51]	schestowitz-TR2	like Internet blonde jokes
[08:51]	leah	that's all these people know how to do
[08:51]	schestowitz-TR2	but I think that's too personal a story
[08:52]	leah	i'm confident that i could be destroyed based entirely on things i've said and done in the past
[08:52]	leah	what they'lll do is try to make it look like you're that person, and they won't let you defend yourself
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[08:53]	leah	they will completely distort the truth and try to make it all about you
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR2	that's the method
[08:53]	leah	what they're attacking specifically is your self esteem. they know that most people are normal, and have emotional connections to people around them, and not only have them, but need them
[08:53]	schestowitz-TR2	there is a troll here in IRC
[08:54]	leah	they will attack your connections to others, and try to isolate you
[08:54]	schestowitz-TR2	looking to attribute to me what some random person who came to IRC for a day said
[08:54]	schestowitz-TR2	and then start doing a 'jk rowling' on me
[08:54]	leah	they will try to make you feel like you're all alone, with nobody to defend you
[08:54]	leah	their goal is to make you react
[08:54]	leah	then you say something stupid
[08:54]	leah	and the cycle repeats
[08:55]	schestowitz-TR2	yes, it is a trolling tactic
[08:55]	schestowitz-TR2	to bring out the worst of a person and then say, "you see?/?"
[08:55]	leah	except they're being paid to do it
[08:55]	schestowitz-TR2	RMS evil
[08:55]	schestowitz-TR2	no remark on people who do actually bad things
[08:55]	schestowitz-TR2	case of point:
[08:55]	activelow	it is a type of asymmetric war, the destructive part being far more effective than the productive one
[08:56]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DNAIndia #CivilRights #Afghanistan : #Taliban beheads female volleyball player, threatens family https://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-afghanistan-taliban-beheads-female-volleyball-player-threatens-family-2916381
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dnaindia.com | Afghanistan: Taliban beheads female volleyball player, threatens family
[08:56]	techrights-news	 NEWS #IndiaToday #CivilRights #Taliban behead junior volleyball player who was part of Afghan womens national team: Report https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/mahjabin-hakimi-taliban-behead-volleyball-player-afghan-women-national-team-1866985-2021-10-20
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.indiatoday.in | Taliban behead junior volleyball player who was part of womens national team: Report - World News
[08:56]	activelow	linus or rms had hacked their entire live for free software, and a mob can ruin it by agitating a few minutes
[08:56]	techrights-news	 NEWS #LatinTimes #CivilRights #Taliban Abducted, Decapitated Member Of Afghan Women's Volleyball Team: Report https://www.latintimes.com/taliban-abducted-decapitated-member-afghan-womens-volleyball-team-report-490992
[08:56]	leah	the best defense is to stop playing
[08:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to www.latintimes.com:443; Operation now in progress ( status 0 @ https://www.latintimes.com/taliban-abducted-decapitated-member-afghan-womens-volleyball-team-report-490992 )
[08:56]	leah	just ignore them and accept that you have haters
[08:56]	leah	that's what i do
[08:56]	schestowitz-TR2	RMS evil
[08:57]	schestowitz-TR2	Taliban? No comment
[08:57]	schestowitz-TR2	That's the point I was making
[08:57]	schestowitz-TR2	and it irritates them
[08:57]	leah	the trouble is, their tactics work immeditaley and very well, if not explained/challenged
[08:57]	schestowitz-TR2	[08:56] <activelow> linus or rms had hacked their entire live for free software, and a mob can ruin it by agitating a few minutes
[08:57]	schestowitz-TR2	Twitter mobs are like this
[08:58]	leah	and explaining/challenging them is harder than it is to be them
[08:58]	schestowitz	http://hintjens.wikidot.com/blog:114
[08:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hintjens.wikidot.com | Why I've Quit Twitter - Hintjens.com
[08:58]	leah	if they're persistent enough, they will "win"
[08:59]	schestowitz-TR2	their twitter mob lynch killed daphne
[08:59]	schestowitz-TR2	they kill their own, too
[08:59]	leah	who's daphne?
[08:59]	schestowitz-TR2	did you hear the chapelle thing?
[08:59]	schestowitz-TR2	I had to read up to actually understand what it was about
● Oct 22
[09:00]	schestowitz-TR2	my undderstanding is, they didn't like what a trans woman said
[09:00]	schestowitz-TR2	so they targeted her in Twitter
[09:00]	schestowitz-TR2	until she jumped from a building
[09:00]	techrights-news	 NEWS #PIA #bezos Do We Really Want Amazon's Internet-Connected Autonomous #Surveillance Robots Wandering Around our Homes? https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/do-we-really-want-amazons-internet-connected-autonomous-surveillance-robots-wandering-around-our-homes/
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[09:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Do We Really Want Amazon's Internet-Connected Autonomous Surveillance Robots Wandering Around our Homes?
[09:01]	techrights-news	 NEWS #DeSmog #Belarus Chastised for Persecuting Environmental Defenders https://www.desmog.com/2021/10/21/belarus-chastised-aarhus-convention-persecuting-environmental-defenders/
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[09:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Belarus Chastised for Persecuting Environmental Defenders - DeSmog
[09:04]	techrights-news	 NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Hello Worlds first-ever special edition is here! https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/hello-world-big-book-of-computing-pedagogy/
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[09:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Hello Worlds first-ever special edition is here! - Raspberry Pi
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[09:05]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TheGrayZone #Facebook whistleblower #FrancesHaugen represented by US intelligence insiders https://thegrayzone.com/2021/10/21/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen-us-intelligence/ throwing #zuckerberg under the bus
[09:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | Facebook 'whistleblower' Frances Haugen represented by US intelligence insiders - The Grayzone
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[09:08]	techrights-news	#taliban after the media told us they're "reformed", citing #socialcontrolmedia as 'evidence' https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/taliban-destroy-statue-shiite-foe-1990s-civil-war-79514356
[09:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Taliban militants violently disperse rare Afghan protest - ABC News
[09:10]	techrights-news	#socialcontrolmedia is junk https://www.cracked.com/article_31609_3-lessons-from-the-rights-social-media-ventures.html
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[09:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 Lessons From The Right's Social Media Ventures | Cracked.com
[09:10]	techrights-news	#brazil #bolsonaro https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/10/23/jair-bolsonaro-is-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity-in-brazil
[09:10]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2021/10/23/jair-bolsonaro-is-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity-in-brazil
[09:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jair Bolsonaro is accused of crimes against humanity in Brazil | The Economist
[09:11]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt #Censorship #Facebook HEY HI [sic] Moderation Continues To Suck Because Moderation At Scale Is Impossible https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211020/13270147784/facebook-ai-moderation-continues-to-suck-because-moderation-scale-is-impossible.shtml
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[09:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook AI Moderation Continues To Suck Because Moderation At Scale Is Impossible | Techdirt
[09:11]	gustaf	that's horrible 
[09:13]	techrights-news	#socialcontrolmedia is good at amplifying falsehoods very fast, which suits chronological liars very well (in #brazil it was #bolsonaro and #trump thrived in Twitter) https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/former-u-s-president-donald-trump-launches-new-social-media-platform/87184247
[09:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Former U.S. president Donald Trump launches new social media platform, IT News, ET CIO
[09:13]	schestowitz-TR2	gustaf: which part specifically?
[09:13]	gustaf	someone hounded to suicide
[09:14]	schestowitz-TR2	I only started reading into it after I had heard netflix fired engineers
[09:14]	schestowitz-TR2	calling them thin-skinned
[09:14]	schestowitz-TR2	unable to take any voice or view they did not fully agree with
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[09:18]	techrights-news	The word "truth" lost its positive connotation and appeal about 20 years ago. https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/21/22738240/donald-trump-truth-social-spac-dwac-stock-merger
[09:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Donald Trumps new social media SPAC, explained - The Verge
[09:18]	leah	gustaf: who?
[09:19]	schestowitz-TR2	tl;dr: twitter is toxic
[09:19]	schestowitz-TR2	they say in the media fb is unhealthy
[09:19]	gustaf	Daphne Dorman
[09:19]	schestowitz-TR2	I came to the conclusion Twitter is just a "lesser drug"
[09:19]	gustaf	just googled "chappelle daphne suicide"
[09:19]	leah	oh
[09:19]	leah	i just read what schestowitz-TR2 said
[09:20]	leah	yeah that's the dark side of twitter
[09:20]	schestowitz	falsehoods travel faster  http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/
[09:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights
[09:20]	schestowitz	and there is no edit button
[09:20]	schestowitz	no way to correct claims
[09:20]	schestowitz	many still think RMS wrote a sexist sign on his door
[09:20]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.75   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.65 swarm size (avg): 259.54  
[09:20]	schestowitz	many tweets still show this, as do some blog posts from Linux Foundation bunnies
[09:21]	schestowitz	PR people
[09:21]	schestowitz	reinforcing the idea he's a womaniser
[09:23]	kingoffrance	"they will completely distort the truth and try to make it all about you"   yes, its what people do who have no ideas, no thoughts, there is only tribalism.  if there are no ideas or truth -- environment is all, pure materialism -- then everything is just an ever-shifting popularity contest.   its not science either -- consensus is not science.  science needs definitions that are not 1984 ever-shifting, so people can reproduce experiments.      s
[09:23]	kingoffrance	o it does seem pure materialist to me, but not science.  its kind of collective demagoguery maybe.
[09:23]	kingoffrance	its not law either
[09:23]	kingoffrance	law needs ability to 1) face your accuser 2) know the nature of accusation
[09:23]	kingoffrance	mob "thought crimes" is neither law, nor science
[09:24]	kingoffrance	i would say it tries to masquerade as those things, and morality too
[09:24]	kingoffrance	so not religion either, but it tries to masquerade as moral high ground
[09:25]	kingoffrance	i say it comes off as "pure materialism" to me, because it seems like no separation between 1) person  2) idea they expound   thus, subjective IS objective, merged.    one cannot discuss an idea, without <person presenting it>  .  no separation
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[09:26]	kingoffrance	so, philosophically, that is how it strikes me........
[09:26]	kingoffrance	not that i think that is intentional/conscious/planned
[09:26]	kingoffrance	just how i see it 
[09:27]	kingoffrance	if there is such a thing as anti-design pattern, this seems to me an anti-philosophy lol
[09:27]	kingoffrance	totally inverted...no thoughts or ideas, only groups/people
[09:28]		*kingoffrance steps off soap box
[09:29]	techrights-news	#MXLinux 21 Released with Debian 11, KDE Plasma 5.20. This is Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157062 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux 21 Released with Debian 11, KDE Plasma 5.20. This is Whats New | Tux Machines
[09:29]	techrights-news	 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 21, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/irc-log-211021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/22/irc-log-211021/
[09:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 21, 2021 | Techrights
[09:30]	kingoffrance	there's also, of course, is it perhaps supposed to be ex post facto laws are normally considered anti-law?  
[09:30]	kingoffrance	i mean, digging up past ...at some point thats not law. thats anti-law.
[09:31]	techrights-news	10 Things to do After Installing Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157063 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Things to do After Installing Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri | Tux Machines
[09:31]	techrights-news	Manual Installation of #GNOME Extension from ZIP File [Easy Steps] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157064 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manual Installation of GNOME Extension from ZIP File [Easy Steps] | Tux Machines
[09:32]	kingoffrance	the point im making is, even if someone found some deep dark secret in your past...thats not how real law works
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[09:33]	techrights-news	Safe #e2ee encryption is essential for privacy and democracy. It protects whistleblowers, journalists and many more. Join us for #GlobalEncryptionDay https://chaos.social/@echo_pbreyer/107140199552126608
[09:33]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patrick Breyer: "Safe #e2ee encryption is essential for privacy an" - chaos.social
[09:33]	activelow	defamation is subject to penal code
[09:33]	kingoffrance	yes! and libel slander etc.
[09:34]	techrights-news	If you weaken encryption, people will die https://mas.to/@nemo/107141579893211524
[09:34]	kingoffrance	part of why normally you have ability to face your accuser...they put their reputation on line, if they are wrong and making bogus bs claims
[09:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nemo: "#Edward_Snowden: If you weaken encryption, peopl" - mas.to
[09:34]	activelow	and "human dignity" is protected by some constitution, paragraph 1, when violated the severity of consequences should not be understimated
[09:35]	kingoffrance	like anything else, normally "consideration" both sides have to risk something
[09:35]	kingoffrance	not that i would say that is a "contract" someone making an accusation, but similar principle:  you dont normally trust people who have no "skin in the game"
[09:35]	kingoffrance	normally, person making wild accusation, who isnt willing to "bet" anything, is not considered credible
[09:35]	kingoffrance	its why the phrase "put your money where your mouth is" lol
[09:36]	activelow	easily said when money is readily available, isn't it?
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[09:41]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt Suing #SocialControlMedia Sites Over Acts Of Terrorism Continues To Be A Losing Bet, As 11th Circuit Dumps Another Flawed Lawsuit https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211016/14505347759/suing-social-media-sites-over-acts-terrorism-continues-to-be-losing-bet-as-11th-circuit-dumps-another-flawed-lawsuit.shtml
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[09:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Suing Social Media Sites Over Acts Of Terrorism Continues To Be A Losing Bet, As 11th Circuit Dumps Another Flawed Lawsuit | Techdirt
[09:42]	activelow	i remember some documentary from 1930s, about germany, when excess defamation campaigns were common against some high ranking, uhm, militarist political poarty
[09:44]	activelow	musn't have been uncommon among them, little later thousands were sent into prison camps
[09:44]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #RIAA Criticizes #ICANN for 'Hindering' Its Efforts https://torrentfreak.com/riaa-criticizes-icann-for-hindering-its-anti-piracy-efforts-211021/
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[09:45]	techrights-news	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Mega: 144,000+ Users Have Been Terminated For Repeat Copyright Infringement https://torrentfreak.com/mega-144000-users-have-been-terminated-for-repeat-copyright-infringement-211021/
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[09:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mega: 144,000+ Users Have Been Terminated For Repeat Copyright Infringement * TorrentFreak
[09:45]	kingoffrance	well sure, money doesnt magically make anyone credible.   but mob is kind of what happens when noone faces individual repurcussions maybe
[09:45]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt Le Tigre Sues Barry Mann To Stop #Copyright Threats Over Song, Lights Barry Mann On Fire As Well https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211021/10283947790/le-tigre-sues-barry-mann-to-stop-copyright-threats-over-song-lights-barry-mann-fire-as-well.shtml
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[09:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Le Tigre Sues Barry Mann To Stop Copyright Threats Over Song, Lights Barry Mann On Fire As Well | Techdirt
[09:45]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt #Copyright Two Years Later, Judge Finally Realizes That A CDN Provider Is Not Liable For Copyright Infringement On Websites https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211020/17222647786/two-years-later-judge-finally-realizes-that-cdn-provider-is-not-liable-copyright-infringement-websites.shtml
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[09:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Two Years Later, Judge Finally Realizes That A CDN Provider Is Not Liable For Copyright Infringement On Websites | Techdirt
[09:46]	kingoffrance	when there is no individual accountability, then mob is inevitable perhaps
[09:46]	schestowitz-TR2	true
[09:46]	kingoffrance	hash cash didnt last, but it was the same theory there :)
[09:46]	kingoffrance	make spammers have to "pay" 
[09:47]	kingoffrance	didnt work, but idea seems to be, make it so there was some "cost" or "limit" if they want to send mass number of mails
[09:49]	kingoffrance	"falsehoods travel faster"  yep thats Brandolini's law
[09:50]	kingoffrance	very related IMO
[09:50]		*activelow hesitates from such historical records
[09:50]	activelow	because, german language, and missing context
[09:51]	activelow	to keep it brief, which surprised me, was former social democrats were not accepted into the new government later
[09:51]	activelow	even Stahlhelm (steel helmet veteran) organization rejected "social democrats"
[09:51]	activelow	who, ignited defamation campaigns, at that time, against gay men
[09:52]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Tor Global #Encryption Day: #MakeTheSwitch https://blog.torproject.org/first-global-encryption-day
[09:52]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Global Encryption Day: #MakeTheSwitch | Tor Blog
[09:52]	activelow	this was, 1920s/30s, 100years ago, only printed newspapers, and pseudonyms publishing rubbish
[09:52]	activelow	inciting the masses
[09:53]	techrights-news	 NEWS #MintPressNews #Facebook Whistleblower Frances Haugen Represented by US Intelligence Insiders https://www.mintpressnews.com/facebook-whistleblower-frances-haugen-represented-us-intelligence-insiders/278749/
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[09:53]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Facebook Whistleblower Frances Haugen Represented by US Intelligence Insiders
[09:53]	activelow	*hesitates to cite
[09:54]	activelow	and after 1945, "human dignity" was phrased into paragraph 1 of german constitution
[09:56]	techrights-news	 NEWS #Techdirt #Verizon 'Visible' Wireless Accounts Hacked, Exploited To Buy New iPhones https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211018/07204047769/verizon-visible-wireless-accounts-hacked-exploited-to-buy-new-iphones.shtml
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[09:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Verizon 'Visible' Wireless Accounts Hacked, Exploited To Buy New iPhones | Techdirt
● Oct 22
[10:08]	techrights-news	#StarLabs StarLite is an Attractive 11-inch Linux Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157065 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | StarLabs StarLite is an Attractive 11-inch Linux Laptop | Tux Machines
[10:08]	techrights-news	This week in #NeoChat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157066 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in NeoChat | Tux Machines
[10:09]	techrights-news	
[10:10]	techrights-news	Stable vs. Bleeding-Edge Linux Distros: Which One Should You Choose? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157067 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable vs. Bleeding-Edge Linux Distros: Which One Should You Choose? | Tux Machines
[10:10]	techrights-news	#Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157068 #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[10:13]	techrights-news	#RaspberryPi 4 gets temporary price hike to $45 (but the 1GB model returns for $35) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157002#comment-31475
[10:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 2GB jumps to $45 as 1GB model returns from the dead at $35 | Tux Machines
[10:14]	techrights-news	MX Linux 21 available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157052#comment-31474
[10:14]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd-Free MX Linux 21 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
[10:15]	gustaf	in the US the right to free expression often trumps defamation claims
[10:15]	gustaf	it's different in the UK
[10:15]	gustaf	no doubt it Germany too
[10:15]	gustaf	a party leader here admitted the charge of defamation after she had slandered opposing counsel on FB(!)
[10:15]	gustaf	pretty fucking amazing 
[10:16]	schestowitz-TR2	you need to prove the person knowingly lied
[10:16]	schestowitz-TR2	to cause harm
[10:16]	gustaf	she watned to buy a house, the deal went wrong, lawyers were involved, and she outed opposing counsel for having a criminal record
[10:16]	gustaf	purely private matter, mind you 
[10:16]	gustaf	but she felt she had to involve her fB followers in it
[10:17]	gustaf	ofc she's been *for* more stringent libel laws 
[10:17]	gustaf	anywhoo, US is an outlier when it comes to libel/slander
[10:17]	gustaf	better take someone to court in the UK 
[10:17]	gustaf	get a gag order 
[10:18]	gustaf	get the judge to forbid discission of the case *at all*
[10:19]	kingoffrance	eh, im all for anonymous speech even...its just at some point either 1) you have a real claim, go to court  2) its all bs
[10:19]	kingoffrance	im more disturbed ppl believe "rumours" blindly
[10:20]	gustaf	yeah obviously there is a balance
[10:20]	gustaf	and based on the behavior of UK tabloids, maybe protections are needed
[10:20]	kingoffrance	lol
[10:20]	kingoffrance	tabloids...are yet another level ol
[10:20]	kingoffrance	lol
[10:20]	gustaf	Swedish press is self-regulated 
[10:21]	gustaf	suspects aren't named, generally
[10:21]	schestowitz-TR2	we wrote about Swedish media
[10:21]	schestowitz-TR2	earlier this year
[10:21]	gustaf	but it's voluntary 
[10:21]	schestowitz-TR2	it has many flaws too
[10:21]	gustaf	yeah sure, what doesn't 
[10:21]	schestowitz-TR2	sweden has blue and yellow press :-)
[10:21]	schestowitz-TR2	like the flag
[10:21]	kingoffrance	us, we have "florida man does xyz" ....if its not florida man, not credible.   if it is florida man, anything is possible </joke>
[10:21]	gustaf	just mentioning hter'es no law preventing you from naming someone who was arrested 
[10:22]	gustaf	because Sweden is almost shockingly open
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR2	swedish press also self-censors a lot
[10:22]	gustaf	very easy to find addresses etc
[10:22]	schestowitz-TR2	to not give fodder for racists
[10:22]	gustaf	there's plenty of outlets for that 
[10:23]	gustaf	one of them is practicing criminal rehabilitation!
[10:23]	gustaf	dude was sentenced for a triple murder now has 9 degrees and a job at Bulletin
[10:23]	gustaf	and you don't need a paper to spread hate when you have Facebook 
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[10:26]	gustaf	anyway I am out of touch
[10:26]	gustaf	the "most streamed artist" in Sweden was shot this morning 
[10:26]	gustaf	and I'd never heard of him
[10:26]	gustaf	same age as our kid too :(
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[10:32]	techrights-news	#AntnioCampinos Thinks Salary Reductions Months Before He Leaves is Exceptional Social Gesture http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/fake-social-gestures/ #epo #europe #patents
[10:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Antnio Campinos Thinks Salary Reductions Months Before He Leaves is Exceptional Social Gesture | Techrights
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[10:50]	techrights-news	[Meme] Speaking the Same Language http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/epo-language/ #epo #AntnioCampinos #europe #patents
[10:50]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Speaking the Same Language | Techrights
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● Oct 22
[11:00]	techrights-news	 NEWS #EFF EFF to Federal Court: Block Unconstitutional #Texas #SocialControlMedia #Law https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/eff-federal-court-block-unconstitutional-texas-social-media-law
[11:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | EFF to Federal Court: Block Unconstitutional Texas Social Media Law | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:00]	techrights-news	 NEWS #EFF New Global Alliance Calls on #EuropeanParliament to Make the Digital Services Act a Model Set of Internet Regulations Protecting Human Rights and Freedom of Expression https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/new-global-alliance-calls-european-parliament-make-digital-services-act-model-set
[11:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | New Global Alliance Calls on European Parliament to Make the Digital Services Act a Model Set of Internet Regulations Protecting Human Rights and Freedom of Expression | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:04]	techrights-news	 NEWS #EFF #Oakland Victory! Oaklands City Council Unanimously Approves Communications Choice Ordinance https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/victory-oaklands-city-council-unanimously-approves-communications-choice-ordinance
[11:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Victory! Oaklands City Council Unanimously Approves Communications Choice Ordinance | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:08]	techrights-news	"Since it has not been mentioned in this thread yet, what is the link to the authoritative version control system instance? It's not mentioned in the documentation [1] yet either." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007347.html
[11:08]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini on Sourcehut (was Re: News----good, bad, ugly? You decide (was Re: [spec] comments on the proposed gemini spec revisions))
[11:11]	techrights-news	 NEWS #EFF #Privacy On Global #Encryption Day, Let's Stand Up for Privacy and Security https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/global-encryption-day-lets-stand-privacy-and-security
[11:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | On Global Encryption Day, Let's Stand Up for Privacy and Security | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:15]	techrights-news	 NEWS #EFF #Police Cant Demand You Reveal Your Phone Passcode and Then Tell a Jury You Refused https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/police-cant-demand-you-reveal-your-phone-passcode-and-then-tell-jury-you-refused you ought not carry such a device in the first place...
[11:15]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Police Cant Demand You Reveal Your Phone Passcode and Then Tell a Jury You Refused | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:18]	techrights-news	 NEWS #EFF Why Is It So Hard to Figure Out What to Do When You Lose Your Account? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/10/why-it-so-hard-figure-out-what-do-when-you-lose-your-account "meme king Chuck Tingle found his Twitter account suspended"
[11:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Why Is It So Hard to Figure Out What to Do When You Lose Your Account? | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[11:20]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies #BigPharma , Rich Nations Have Delivered Just 14% of Vaccine Doses Promised to Poor Nations https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/21/big-pharma-rich-nations-have-delivered-just-14-vaccine-doses-promised-poor-nations
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[11:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Big Pharma, Rich Nations Have Delivered Just 14% of Vaccine Doses Promised to Poor Nations
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[11:20]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.53   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 33.35 swarm size (avg): 259.54  
[11:28]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CommonDreams #Monopolies After Months of Organizing, #Amazon Workers Ready Union Drive at Staten Island Warehouse https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/21/after-months-organizing-amazon-workers-ready-union-drive-staten-island-warehouse
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[11:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | After Months of Organizing, Amazon Workers Ready Union Drive at Staten Island Warehouse
[11:29]	techrights-news	 NEWS #CommonDreams #Pandemic After Getting 'Stealth Bailout' During Pandemic, US Corporations Try to Kill Proposed Tax Hikes https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/21/after-getting-stealth-bailout-during-pandemic-us-corporations-try-kill-proposed-tax #microsoft bailed out SEVERAL times
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[11:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | After Getting 'Stealth Bailout' During Pandemic, US Corporations Try to Kill Proposed Tax Hikes
[11:44]	schestowitz	" <b> IMPORTANT: This application depends on livescores.com but it is no longer providing scores, so, for the time being, the livescore-cli doesn't work. :( <b> "
[11:44]	schestowitz	https://  github   .com/codeezer/livescore-cli/commit/cc0850722d50381f6200cfbf0cad0d387659fd67
[11:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Could not resolve host: ; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https:// )
[11:45]	schestowitz	:/
[11:45]	techrights-news	Links 22/10/2021: Global #Encryption Day http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/global-encryption-day/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/22/global-encryption-day/
[11:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/10/2021: Global Encryption Day | Techrights
[11:46]	techrights-news	#ProprietarySoftware and #Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157069 #TuxMachines
[11:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines
[11:46]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157070 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:47]	schestowitz-TR2	https://nitter.eu/virginia_dark/status/1451496445337538572#m
[11:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Virginia Dark (@virginia_dark): "Such a legally flawed memo should not stand," wrote Maloney, calling ERA ratification "the most consequential action we can take to ensure gender equality for all."" | nitter
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● Oct 22
[12:02]	techrights-news	Lots of people leaving #ibm and #redhat these days. I could name them. Some are laid off too. #systemd isn't a safe foundation. Just #vendorLockin for support contracts.
[12:03]	techrights-news	#redhat is still responsible for maintaining many super-important components of #gnu #linux but #ibm doesn't recognise this or simply doesn't care. Just wants MONEY. NOW NOW NOW.
[12:04]	techrights-news	Installing Mods for Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl (NASB) on #GNU #Linux - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/installing-mods-for-nickelodeon-all-star-brawl-nasb-on-linux/ #boilingsteam
[12:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Installing Mods for Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl (NASB) on Linux - Boiling Steam
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[12:27]	techrights-news	[Meme] How Corporate #Monopolies Demonise Critics of Their Technically and Legally Problematic Products http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/phony-issues/ #Techrights #systemd #ibm #strawman | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/22/phony-issues/
[12:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] How Corporate Monopolies Demonise Critics of Their Technically and Legally Problematic Products | Techrights
[12:36]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157071 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[12:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[12:37]	techrights-news	The Visegrd Group will be the focus of #techrights today. We expose a lot of #corruption in #europe this month. Corporate trolls try to distract from the corruption using straw men.
[12:39]	techrights-news	After #Facebook Expos: Does #India need to update its IT Act? https://internetfreedom.in/facebook-expose-signals-the-need-for-india-to-update-its-social-media-regulations/ #internetfreedom
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[12:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | After Facebook Expos: Does India need to update its IT Act?
[12:41]	techrights-news	5 Things to Check Out in #Ubuntu Impish Indri http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156775#comment-31476 #gnu #linux
[12:41]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.10 Impish Indri Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[12:43]	techrights-news	You Can Now Directly Read Data Logs From Tesla Vehicles https://jalopnik.com/you-can-now-directly-read-data-logs-from-tesla-vehicles-1847910795 #jalopnik #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware
[12:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jalopnik.com | You Can Now Directly Read Data Logs From Tesla Vehicles
[12:44]	techrights-news	#rustlang has a new release, but all the same technical, social, and legal issues remain
[12:46]	techrights-news	The Chip Shortage Is so Bad #RaspberryPi Prices Have Gone Up http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157002#comment-31477
[12:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi 4 2GB jumps to $45 as 1GB model returns from the dead at $35 | Tux Machines
[12:47]	techrights-news	Package updates as a result from the switch to #Python 3.10 in Slackware-current https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/package-updates-as-a-result-from-the-switch-to-python-3-10-in-slackware-current/ #Slackware #programming #gnu #linux
[12:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Package updates as a result from the switch to Python 3.10 in Slackware-current | Alien Pastures
[12:54]	techrights-news	"Update on what happened across the #GNOME project in the week from October 08 to October 15." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2021/10/twig-14/ #gnu #linux #freesw
[12:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thisweek.gnome.org | #14 Well-Rounded This Week in GNOME
[12:55]	techrights-news	"Up to now, text support in librsvg has been fairly limited. The text chapter in the SVG spec is pretty big and it contains features that are very much outside of my experience (right-to-left languages, vertical text)." https://people.gnome.org/~federico/blog/text-in-librsvg.html
[12:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.gnome.org | Text in librsvg starts to get better - Federico's Blog
[12:57]	techrights-news	"The project is a community-based product, which was released under the AGPL-3.0 License and maintained by a team of professionals." Interesting if #barrier and #synergy don't install. With one mouse and keyboard I control 5 PCs at the moment. https://medevel.com/deskreen-gpl/
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[12:57]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Turn any device with a browser into a secondary screen with Deskreen!
● Oct 22
[13:01]	techrights-news	Luis Villa very proprietary, which I suppose is consistent with what he has been promoting this past decade (corporations absorbing #freesw to take away freedom) https://lu.is/blog/2021/10/21/my-teleconf-setup/
[13:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lu.is | My teleconf setup Luis Villa: Open Tech and Policy
[13:02]	techrights-news	PSA: Plasma Browser Integration Currently Unavailable. "A fix is being worked on, but might take a bit, sorry about that." https://blog.broulik.de/2021/10/psa-plasma-browser-integration-currently-unavailable/
[13:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.broulik.de | PSA: Plasma Browser Integration Currently Unavailable Kai Uwe's Blog
[13:04]	techrights-news	#Alibaba open sources four #RISCV cores: XuanTie E902, E906, C906 and C910 - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/20/alibaba-open-source-risc-v-cores-xuantie-e902-e906-c906-and-c910/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware
[13:04]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/20/alibaba-open-source-risc-v-cores-xuantie-e902-e906-c906-and-c910/
[13:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Alibaba open sources four RISC-V cores: XuanTie E902, E906, C906 and C910 - CNX Software
[13:05]	techrights-news	How long or how much longer can #intel compete for? https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/amlogic-a311d2-arm-processor-16gb-ram/ Leaks about the inner crisis: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[13:05]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/amlogic-a311d2-arm-processor-16gb-ram/
[13:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Amlogic A311D2 octa-core Arm processor supports up to 16GB RAM - CNX Software
[13:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
[13:07]	techrights-news	#microsoft #windows TCO - blackMORE Ops https://www.blackmoreops.com/2021/10/20/sophisticated-spearphishing-campaign-targets-government-organizations-igos-and-ngos/ see http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
[13:07]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: blackmoreops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.blackmoreops.com/2021/10/20/sophisticated-spearphishing-campaign-targets-government-organizations-igos-and-ngos/
[13:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.blackmoreops.com | Sophisticated Spearphishing Campaign Targets Government Organizations, IGOs, and NGOs - blackMORE Ops
[13:07]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights
[13:09]	techrights-news	Not a big fan of tech-'exhibitionists' showing off their expensive microphones and cameras, as if buying new and expensive things while throwing perfectly good ones away is something to be proud of. Reminds me of the #apple cult...
[13:10]	techrights-news	#ibm #redhat : "Thats not corporate ageism" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/remote-work-4-tips-ease-onboarding Be careful, IBM. You're facing lawsuits already for ageism, even #classaction ones. http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM
[13:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Remote and hybrid work: 4 tips to ease onboarding | The Enterprisers Project
[13:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights
[13:13]	techrights-news	Strange #Apache Reload Issue - Russell Coker https://etbe.coker.com.au/2021/10/20/strange-apache-reload-issue/ #etbe
[13:13]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-etbe.coker.com.au | Strange Apache Reload Issue etbe - Russell Coker
[13:16]	techrights-news	When you have to use #Microsoft ...but you love Linux. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1MvXOx8R0jg #video #gnu #linux
[13:16]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | When you have to use Microsoft...but you love Linux. - Invidious
[13:17]	techrights-news	"I've been wanting to go through #GNU #Linux from Scratch for quite a while and we recently started doing so on stream and I've got to say the experience has certainly been interesting." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1eOdaXS-wVE #gnulinux
[13:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux from Scratch First Impressions: Waste Of Time? - Invidious
[13:17]	techrights-news	Are We Ever Completely Free From Microsoft Windows? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=97LagKxc1v0 #video #invidious #gnu #linux
[13:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Are We Ever Completely Free From Microsoft Windows? - Invidious
[13:19]	techrights-news	#MXLinux 21 Stable Release is Finally Here Introducing a Fluxbox Edition http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157052#comment-31478 #gnu #linux
[13:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd-Free MX Linux 21 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
[13:20]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.95   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 39.40 swarm size (avg): 259.55  
[13:21]	techrights-news	#rustlang is actively censoring critics of corporations that commit crimes because those corporations (that commit crimes) pay the project. Do we want #programming frameworks controlled by criminals?
[13:23]	techrights-news	Lousy anti-journalist sites try to blame the victims for having received malware from Microsoft itself https://thehackernews.com/2021/10/malicious-npm-packages-caught-running.html
[13:23]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2021/10/malicious-npm-packages-caught-running.html
[13:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Malicious NPM Packages Caught Running Cryptominer On Windows, Linux, macOS Devices
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[13:25]	techrights-news	#IVOW fights biases in #artificialintelligence https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/ivow-fights-biases-in-artificial-intelligence/
[13:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | IVOW fights biases in artificial intelligence | Stop at Zona-M
[13:26]	techrights-news	This tinyML device counts your squats while you focus on your form | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/22/this-tinyml-device-counts-your-squats-while-you-focus-on-your-form/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/22/#latest
[13:26]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/22/this-tinyml-device-counts-your-squats-while-you-focus-on-your-form/
[13:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This tinyML device counts your squats while you focus on your form | Arduino Blog
[13:26]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[13:28]	techrights-news	Whitewashing corporate gangsters from companies like #amazon and #clownflare using buzzwords and fake job titles (e.g. "developer advocates"). In practice it's the art of exploiting FREE LABOUR of #freesw devs for private corporate gains (that harm society). Call that #slavery https://dev.to/sourcegraph/the-developer-advocate-toolkit-software-tools-you-need-to-move-fast-95g
[13:28]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: dev.to | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dev.to/sourcegraph/the-developer-advocate-toolkit-software-tools-you-need-to-move-fast-95g
[13:28]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.to | The Developer Advocate ToolKit: Software Tools You Need To Move Fast - DEV Community
[13:29]	techrights-news	How technology deepens #inequality when put in the wrong hands https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/algorithm-bias-again.-this-time-in-mortgages/ #slavery #slaves #mortgage #monopoly
[13:29]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Algorithm bias, again. This time, in mortgages | Stop at Zona-M
[13:30]	techrights-news	Jean-Luc Aufranc (CNXSoft) once again helps advertise a #microsoft ATTACK on #gnu #linux and #android ... Read the word "SUBSYSTEM" as "CYANIDE"
[13:32]	techrights-news	No, #ibm #redhat ... those have nothing to do with #linux ... they're part of shadow-utils. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-commands-manage-users
[13:32]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 3 basic Linux user management commands every sysadmin should know | Enable Sysadmin
[13:34]	techrights-news	redhat @ ibm # add-user useradd $you deathlist http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism
[13:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights
[13:35]	techrights-news	#ibm won't liberate anybody from actual #slavery http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/
[13:35]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights
[13:36]	techrights-news	Will this namespace work for #ibm 100% of the time? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-CPU-Namespace
[13:36]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-CPU-Namespace
[13:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM Proposing A CPU Namespace For The Linux Kernel - Phoronix
[13:37]	techrights-news	#canonical and #mozilla serving themselves. But to make matters worse, they're pushing together with #firefox things that almost nobody wants or needs. https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/758933/should-mozilla-canonicalubuntu-keep-the-deb-version-of-firefox-permanently/
[13:37]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/758933/should-mozilla-canonicalubuntu-keep-the-deb-version-of-firefox-permanently/
[13:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bleepingcomputer.com | Should Mozilla & Canonical/Ubuntu keep the .deb version of Firefox permanently? - Linux & Unix
[13:39]	techrights-news	Replacement #TMobile Home Internet #Nokia Trash Can modem arrives, dies five minutes after I turn it on, and I had to explain reboot loop to the tech support. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/21/replacement-t-mobile-home-internet-nokia-trash-can-modem-arrives-dies-five-minutes-after-i-turn-it-on-and-i-had-to-explain-reboot-loop-to-the-tech-support/
[13:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Replacement T-Mobile Home Internet Nokia Trash Can modem arrives, dies five minutes after I turn it on, and I had to explain reboot loop to the tech support. BaronHK's Rants
[13:42]	techrights-news	U.S. #FTC report proves ISPs as bad as #Facebook on #privacy - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/ftc-report-isp-privacy/ #accessnow
[13:42]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/ftc-report-isp-privacy/
[13:42]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | U.S. FTC report proves ISPs as bad as Facebook on privacy - Access Now
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[13:43]	techrights-news	UNGA76 Side event: The digital #surveillance crisis and threats to human rights defenders - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8qCbECZWyJs&feature=youtu.be #video
[13:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | UNGA76 Side event: The digital surveillance crisis and threats to human rights defenders - Invidious
[13:43]	techrights-news	#Neosio: the next generation open-source WordPress CMS alternative http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157072 #freesw #CMS #TuxMachines
[13:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Neos.io: the next generation open-source WordPress CMS alternative | Tux Machines
[13:44]	techrights-news	"Critical Infrastructure (CI) owners and operators, and other users who obtain Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) from #GlobalPositioningSystem (GPS) devices, should be aware of a #GPS Daemon (GPSD) bug in #GPSD versions 3.20 (released December 31, 2019) through 3.22 (released January 8, 2021)." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/21/gps-daemon-gpsd-rollover-bug
[13:44]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | GPS Daemon (GPSD) Rollover Bug | CISA
[13:46]	techrights-news	"Gecko profiler Rust marker API has landed. Its possible to add a profiler marker from the Rust to annotate a part of the code now. See the gecko-profiler crate for more information. Documentation is also coming soon." https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2021/10/21/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-102/
[13:46]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.nightly.mozilla.org/2021/10/21/these-weeks-in-firefox-issue-102/
[13:46]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nightly.mozilla.org | These Weeks in Firefox: Issue 102 Firefox Nightly News
[13:47]	techrights-news	#GIMP 2.99.8 is here but what's happened to 3.0? If only stuff would not break all the time http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157028#comment-31479 #gnu
[13:47]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Development version: GIMP 2.99.8 Released | Tux Machines
[13:49]	techrights-news	"Thankfully, it is possible to print frustration-free on Linux. Below are three tutorials you need to get started printing on Linux." https://opensource.com/article/21/10/print-linux paper does not need batteries; don't undervalue it! It also "works" 20 years later.
[13:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 tips for printing with Linux | Opensource.com
[13:51]	techrights-news	#microsoft is trying to infect everything with #proprietarySoftware "Visual Studio"... including #programming language Microsoft competes with. Very disappointing to see who helps this highly abusive Microsoft plot, which isn't unprecedented http://techrights.org/2020/10/18/java-schism-to-wrest-control/
[13:51]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Historys Lesson: Microsoft Now Does to GNU/Linux What It Did to Java (Creating Schism to Wrest Control) | Techrights
[13:52]	techrights-news	#billBC admits now that the #borisnaro plan for #covid19 was a failure. Its solutions are BS though. Good for the #patent holders that pay BBC.
[13:54]	techrights-news	"Capa is an open source project from Mandiant (a cybersecurity company). In the project's own words, capa detects capabilities in executable files." https://opensource.com/article/21/10/linux-elf-capa #Capa needs to #deletegithub ... #microsoft #proprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
[13:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Inspect the capabilities of ELF binaries with this open source tool | Opensource.com
[13:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights
[13:56]	techrights-news	This is "local privilege escalation", i.e. vastly less severe than all those back doors in Windows, but so-called 'security' firms aren't meant to talk about state-mandated holes https://www.hackread.com/linux-kernel-memory-corruption-bug-system-compromise/
[13:56]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hackread.com | New Linux kernel memory corruption bug causes full system compromise
[13:58]	techrights-news	#SiFive Has A New #RISCV Core To Improve Performance By 50%, Outperform Cortex-A78 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SiFive-P550-Successor #Phoronix 
[13:58]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=SiFive-P550-Successor
[13:58]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SiFive Has A New RISC-V Core To Improve Performance By 50%, Outperform Cortex-A78 - Phoronix
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[14:00]	techrights-news	"Prof. Volokhs research has used the Lumen Database to identify and investigate fraudulent or falsified court orders and anti-libelous overbroad injunctions that were being used to remove legitimate content on the Internet" https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/professor-volokh-interview
[14:00]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lumendatabase.org | 
[14:01]	techrights-news	Selective #AGPL enforcement for political and PR gain? https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/oct/21/trump-groups-violates-affero-gpl/
[14:01]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Trump's Social Media Platform and the Affero General Public License (of Mastodon) - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
[14:02]	techrights-news	#M5Stamp C3 #RISCV board supports WiFI 4, Bluetooth 5.0 Long Range and 2 Mbps bitrate - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/m5stamp-c3-risc-v-board-supports-wifi-4-bluetooth-5-0-long-range-and-2-mbps-bitrate/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware
[14:02]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/21/m5stamp-c3-risc-v-board-supports-wifi-4-bluetooth-5-0-long-range-and-2-mbps-bitrate/
[14:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | M5Stamp C3 RISC-V board supports WiFI 4, Bluetooth 5.0 Long Range and 2 Mbps bitrate - CNX Software
[14:05]	techrights-news	[ANN] gmipay: Paywall CGI script https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007350.html #freesw #geminispace #geminiProtocol (also very nice #git hosting!)
[14:05]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [ANN] gmipay: Paywall CGI script
[14:08]	techrights-news	Sad to say this, but the site called #linuxsecurity keeps relaying anti- #linux FUD from #microsoft ... even FUD that's unhinged and not based on facts
[14:09]	techrights-news	#proprietarySoftware where the goal is to give the US Government access to everything while at the same time pretending (posing) to care about #security https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2021/10/21/cisco-releases-security-updates-ios-xe-sd-wan-software
[14:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Cisco Releases Security Updates for IOS XE SD-WAN Software | CISA
[14:10]	techrights-news	All modern phones are an impossibility for #privacy and #security so this one is a bit of a straw man https://gizmodo.com/researchers-find-android-phones-still-track-you-even-w-1847849141
[14:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Android Phones Still Track You, Even When You Opt Out
[14:11]	techrights-news	"Building a dream car doesnt just revolve around factors like horsepower and interior finishes anymore. The automotive industry is going through some big changes as the electric vehicle market revs up and edge computing extends new capabilities for vehicle connectivity." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automotive-transformation-software-defined-vehicles-red-hat-point-view-and-synergies-state-art-it
[14:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Automotive transformation to software-defined vehicles: Red Hat point of view and synergies with state-of-the-art IT
[14:17]	techrights-news	#OpenHardware /Modding: New Hardware Based on RISC-V and #Arduino Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157073 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: New Hardware Based on RISC-V and Arduino Projects | Tux Machines
[14:17]	techrights-news	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157074 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:17]	techrights-news	#Security : Windows, #Microsoft Malware, GPS Bug, and Some Exaggeration/FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157075 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security: Windows, Microsoft Malware, GPS Bug, and Some Exaggeration/FUD | Tux Machines
[14:18]	techrights-news	#Kontron takes #RaspberryPi into [Buzzword] with #Codesys http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157076 #GNU #Linux
[14:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kontron takes Raspberry Pi into Industry 4.0 with Codesys | Tux Machines
[14:18]	techrights-news	Videos: Getting Rid of Microsoft and Linux from Scratch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157077 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:18]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Getting Rid of Microsoft and Linux from Scratch | Tux Machines
[14:19]	techrights-news	#Trump s #SocialControlMedia Platform and the Affero General Public License (of Mastodon) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157078 #GNU #AGPL #GPL
[14:19]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trump's Social Media Platform and the Affero General Public License (of Mastodon) | Tux Machines
[14:22]	techrights-news	#zdnet is posting paid-for SPAM for #NanoVMs ... a reminder that ZDNet is NOT a news site. #boycottZDNet is you want to protect REAL #journalism (not those who attack journalists) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet
[14:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights
[14:25]	techrights-news	Not sure if this is paid-for spam (bribed publisher), but it certainly smells like it and has all the hallmarks https://www.forbes.com/sites/adrianbridgwater/2021/10/14/softwares-big-skill-up-learning-the-way-to-cloud-native/
[14:25]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/sites/adrianbridgwater/2021/10/14/softwares-big-skill-up-learning-the-way-to-cloud-native/
[14:25]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Softwares Big Skill-Up, Learning The Way To Cloud-Native
[14:27]	techrights-news	I think #ibm used #linuxfoundation as a relay through which to bribe publishers for puff pieces such as this https://containerjournal.com/features/red-hat-bolsters-cloud-native-and-edge-portfolio/
[14:27]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: containerjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://containerjournal.com/features/red-hat-bolsters-cloud-native-and-edge-portfolio/
[14:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | Red Hat Bolsters Cloud-Native and Edge Portfolio - Container Journal
[14:27]	techrights-news	#linuxfoundation is a funnel of #bribery e.g. buying the media http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/
[14:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation is Selling Tweets, Access, Thank Yous and SPAM Services | Techrights
[14:30]	techrights-news	#surveillanceCapitalism uses technohype to capitalise or monopolise the data, which it then 'monetises' by ratting people out https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/the-real-advantage-of-broadband-via-laser-links/ #google #gulag
[14:30]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | The real advantage of broadband via laser links | Stop at Zona-M
[14:31]	techrights-news	For all those Utopians who insist that more technology will necessarily make life better https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/10/armed-robodogs-are-just-like-smart-rifles/ #darpa #imperialism #militarism #war
[14:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Armed robodogs are just like smart rifles | Stop at Zona-M
[14:34]	techrights-news	By abandoning #centos #ibm has merely given ground and momentum to #redhat rivals https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/montavista-announces-multiple-tier1-customers-adopting-mvshield-for-commercial-support-of-centos-and-rocky-linux-301404706.html
[14:34]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/montavista-announces-multiple-tier1-customers-adopting-mvshield-for-commercial-support-of-centos-and-rocky-linux-301404706.html
[14:34]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | MontaVista Announces Multiple Tier1 Customers Adopting MVShield for Commercial Support of CentOS and Rocky Linux
[14:36]	techrights-news	This is how you can add five more years of life to your Ubuntu LTS install http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155896#comment-31480
[14:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Linux 14.04 and 16.04 each get a decade of support from Canonical | Tux Machines
[14:37]	techrights-news	#linuxfoundation still violates the Terms of Service in Twitter, but Twitter selectively enforces its rules based on its commercial agenda http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/
[14:40]	techrights-news	#Chrome 96 Beta Begins Preparing For Chrome 100, Adds Priority Hints Feature - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Chrome-96-Beta
[14:40]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Chrome-96-Beta
[14:40]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chrome 96 Beta Begins Preparing For Chrome 100, Adds Priority Hints Feature - Phoronix
[14:45]	techrights-news	#2FA is typically junk or worse https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/10/problems-with-multifactor-authentication.html
[14:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Problems with Multifactor Authentication - Schneier on Security
[14:49]	techrights-news	Build A Moon Phase Clock That Looks Like The Real Thing | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/21/build-a-moon-phase-clock-that-looks-like-the-real-thing/ #hackaday
[14:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Build A Moon Phase Clock That Looks Like The Real Thing | Hackaday
[14:49]	techrights-news	#IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157079 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:49]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:54]	techrights-news	British Licence Plate Camera Fooled By Clothing | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/21/british-licence-plate-camera-fooled-by-clothing/ #hackaday
[14:54]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-British Licence Plate Camera Fooled By Clothing | Hackaday
[14:55]	techrights-news	Going Forward To The Land: Technology For #Permaculture | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/21/going-forward-to-the-land-technology-for-permaculture/ #hackaday
[14:55]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Going Forward To The Land: Technology For Permaculture | Hackaday
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[15:04]	techrights-news	#WWW Browsers: Mozilla, Chromium, and Brave http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157080 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WWW Browsers: Mozilla, Chromium, and Brave | Tux Machines
[15:11]	techrights-news	Links 22/10/2021: Trumps AGPL Violations and #Chrome 95 Released http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/chrome-95-released/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/22/chrome-95-released/
[15:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 22/10/2021: Trumps AGPL Violations and Chrome 95 Released | Techrights
[15:11]	techrights-news	Todays Leftovers (mostly #programming ) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157081 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers (mostly programming) | Tux Machines
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[16:19]	techrights-news	Just recorded today's #epo video. To be published around midnight tonight.
[16:37]	techrights-news	[Meme] #ILO Designed to Fail: #EPO Presidents Cannot be Held Accountable If #ILOAT Takes Almost a Decade to Issue a Simple Ruling http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/iloat-too-late/ #corruption #JusticeDenied
[16:37]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ILO Designed to Fail: EPO Presidents Cannot be Held Accountable If ILOAT Takes Almost a Decade to Issue a Simple Ruling | Techrights
[16:45]	MinceR	https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2024.html
[16:45]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids
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[17:04]	techrights-news	[Meme] #IBM Has Paid #ZDNet to Troll the Community http://techrights.org/2021/10/22/zdnet-is-trolling/ http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet
[17:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] IBM Has Paid ZDNet to Troll the Community | Techrights
[17:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights
[17:04]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights
[17:06]	techrights-news	Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157082 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:06]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[17:09]	techrights-news	#MXLinux 21 Wildflower is Here with UEFI Live Boot Menus http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157052#comment-31481 #gnu #linux
[17:09]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd-Free MX Linux 21 Officially Released, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
[17:10]	MinceR	(nsfw) (audio:music) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9JxY_SQN2I
[17:10]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ten sex mistakes you're making at this actual moment - YouTube
[17:11]	schestowitz	Non-Gulaged URL: Ten sex mistakes youre making at this actual moment - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l9JxY_SQN2I # 
[17:11]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ten sex mistakes you're making at this actual moment - Invidious
[17:17]	techrights-news	#AlpineLinux release process http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157083 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | the Alpine release process | Tux Machines
[17:20]	techrights-news	More #surveillance and #espionage in the workplace https://www.maketecheasier.com/android-work-profile-google-workspaces/ #spying #gulag #imperialism
[17:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Android Work Profile Coming to Google Workspaces in 2022 - Make Tech Easier
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[17:22]	techrights-news	"The release is planned for 2022 with #GNU #Linux native support. Once we get more details and a trailer we will post it up in a new article as we'll be following this with great interest - it looks gorgeous." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/wildflower-from-the-embers-is-a-story-driven-rpg-about-a-young-witch-in-a-new-town
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[17:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wildflower: From the Embers is a story-driven RPG about a young witch in a new town | GamingOnLinux
[17:23]	techrights-news	"Soul Tolerance is the next game from ENCODYA developer Chaosmonger Studio, planned for once they're finished with the upcoming Clunky Hero that releases in November." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/developer-of-encodya-announces-sci-fi-mystery-soul-tolerance
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[17:23]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Developer of ENCODYA announces sci-fi mystery Soul Tolerance | GamingOnLinux
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[17:31]	techrights-news	#Games: Haunted Chocolatier, DXVK, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157084 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:31]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Haunted Chocolatier, DXVK, and More | Tux Machines
[17:34]	schestowitz	MinceR: it's nsfw if you work in a parish maybe
[17:34]	schestowitz	safe enough for gulag youtube
[17:35]	MinceR	:>
[17:35]	MinceR	better safe than sorry
[17:35]	schestowitz-TR2	it is hardly explicit
[17:36]	schestowitz-TR2	audio and silhouettes 
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[17:39]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21100416
[17:39]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5905844)
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[17:56]	schestowitz	next task: do the same for the whole system. We'll call it. SystemDehomag.
[17:56]	MinceR	:>
● Oct 22
[18:01]	DaemonFC	NordVPN isn't really super fantastic for torrents.
[18:01]	DaemonFC	It seems that the rest of the traffic types aren't subjected to this kind of throttling.
[18:01]	DaemonFC	THey're definitely traffic shaping to prevent people from bogging their servers down.
[18:01]	MinceR	(cat) https://i.imgur.com/Is0Uyqx.jpeg
[18:01]		-altlink_b1b/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/Is0Uyqx.jpeg
[18:02]	DaemonFC	If I torrent over NordVPN I'm usually looking at 1 MB per second to maybe 2.
[18:03]	DaemonFC	If I turn off the VPN and BitTorrent something like a Debian ISO it's closer to 6 or 7.
[18:03]	DaemonFC	About the only reason you would use a VPN to torrent is to avoid nasty legal threats.
[18:03]	DaemonFC	It's not going to be extremely fast.
[18:04]	DaemonFC	I tried QBitTorrent with NordVPN's Socks Proxy, and it's about as fast as raw connection.
[18:04]	DaemonFC	The VPN is what really slows you down. Their servers don't support port forwarding and the encryption part really seems to cost you.
[18:05]	DaemonFC	Some people just use the Socks Proxy to get faster speeds, but it, at best, hides your IP address from the swarm. Your ISP would still be able to see what you were doing.
[18:05]	DaemonFC	It still amuses me that nobody knows what "BitTorrent Protocol Encryption" is.
[18:06]	DaemonFC	It's a holdover from over a decade ago when someone who maintained a BitTorrent client was trying to hack around something like Comcast Sandvine.
[18:07]	DaemonFC	It's extremely weak, it only encrypts the headers, not the data, and it's not going to disguise anything now that all of the ISPs know full well what it is.
[18:07]	DaemonFC	Many clients unfortunately come set to "Prefer Encryption". I always set it to "Allow Encryption".
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[18:10]	DaemonFC	BitComet, LOL
[18:10]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[18:10]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: BTW
[18:10]	DaemonFC	That's where this started. Doesn't surprise me.
[18:10]	schestowitz-TR2	just been on the phone for 11 mins, similar issue to yours
[18:11]	DaemonFC	The asshole didn't even produce documentation.
[18:11]	DaemonFC	BitComet was well known for sniffing user agents and prefering other BitComet clients for seeding.
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR2	short story: BT sent us two prepaid bags to return equipment
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR2	I sent it back
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR2	but they registered it as non-return
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR2	I phoned up to rectify and they STILL charged me in error!
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR2	A month passes, still not corrected
[18:11]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR2> I phoned up to rectify and they STILL charged me in error!
[18:11]	schestowitz-TR2	so I repeatedly had to tell then, first not to charge me, then to undo the charge
[18:11]	DaemonFC	We have to go to the T-Mobile store today.
[18:12]	DaemonFC	That or UPS.
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR2	it's a pain
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR2	all this for agreeing to them pushing fibre
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR2	which nobody in our area has yet
[18:12]	schestowitz-TR2	at least we already have the fibre modulation equipment (and hole in the wall) set up
[18:13]	schestowitz-TR2	moving to fibre in the future will be simpler, but I don't want to be first adopter, suffered enough already
[18:13]	DaemonFC	The T-Mobile store employees are incompetent to the highest order and they basically don't give a fuck about anything other than selling you a goddamned phone every time you're in there. Once they realize that you're not there to buy a phone, they hem and haw and make up excuses about why you need to go elsewhere. 
[18:14]	DaemonFC	So I'm already cringing.
[18:14]	schestowitz-TR2	BTW, our EPO series will be 32 parts in total, if not longer
[18:15]	schestowitz-TR2	The GitHub material is not time-sensitive, so it is second priority for now
[18:15]	DaemonFC	Former T-Mobile employees have said they aren't customer service people and nobody wants to open your account unless they're selling a phone because it counts as doing something else, they don't get their commission money, and then you can rate them and it may be a low rating and they are taking a risk for nothing from their perspective.
[18:15]	DaemonFC	So every single one of them knows if customer is not there to buy something, get rid of them like they were the plague.
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR2	I was going to mention T-Mobile to them today
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR2	because of your experience
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR2	seems like ISPs in general are like that
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR2	they cannot attract motivated and technically talemted people
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR2	they they can leave sooner or later
[18:16]	schestowitz-TR2	it's hard with confrontational customers
[18:17]	gustaf	https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/oct/21/trump-groups-violates-affero-gpl/
[18:17]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Trump's Social Media Platform and the Affero General Public License (of Mastodon) - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
[18:19]	schestowitz	seen it
[18:22]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21101562
[18:22]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5936089)
[18:24]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/22/if-it-seems-like-nobody-at-the-t-mobile-store-wants-to-help-you-its-not-just-you-heres-why/
[18:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | If it seems like nobody at the T-Mobile store wants to help you, its not just you. Heres why. BaronHK's Rants
[18:24]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, "Essentially, doing business with T-Mobile is like going on a date with some two pump chump, and as soon as the transaction is over, they disappear."
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[18:27]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Added "Meanwhile, someone else may get the money for signing up another victim. Its like Mary Kay cosmetics or Amway."
[18:27]	schestowitz	https://twitter.com/LaoTzu5/status/1451502739729551361
[18:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@LaoTzu5: @schestowitz Kunming Declaration: Just like the Rio Declaration. But thirty yea https://t.co/pkPEGUAckf
[18:30]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, They sent me an email and told me to print the tracking label out.
[18:31]	DaemonFC	Then they included one pre-printed in the box they sent the dead modem in.
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	lots of work
[18:32]	schestowitz-TR2	all this... and you are the customer
[18:34]	DaemonFC	I know. "Customer".
[18:34]	DaemonFC	These big corporations...
[18:35]	DaemonFC	Fuck I miss Skynet.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	I had an ISP called Skynet and they were great.
[18:35]	DaemonFC	Dial up era.
[18:35]	schestowitz-TR2	you could speak directly to the portmaster
[18:35]	schestowitz-TR2	he'd ask things like, why are you sending out so much email?
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR2	[as kids we did pranks to one another]
[18:36]	schestowitz-TR2	[email "bombers", specify address of friend, send 100 or 1000 messages]
[18:37]	DaemonFC	I had my name at skynet.net too.
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR2	so he'd phone or send fax, cannot recall anymore
[18:37]	DaemonFC	That was nice. :)
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR2	his name was Gabriel
[18:37]	DaemonFC	bbiab
[18:37]	DaemonFC	Have to deal with assholes.
[18:37]	schestowitz-TR2	yes, you had email addresses at the ISP's domain
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[18:37]	schestowitz-TR2	big issue when you change ISPs
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	later 90s I moved to yahoo!
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	2000 university email
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	cs.man.c.uk
[18:38]	schestowitz-TR2	(ac
[18:47]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21101540
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● Oct 22
[19:29]	activelow	die "You need at least GCC 7.3.x or Clang >= 5 for C++17-specific compiler flags"
[19:30]	activelow	i am slightly confused, because it seems it isn't some c++ language features breaking things, it seems standard library
[19:31]	activelow	and, i did use gcc-8 with default flags, and hit it
[19:34]	activelow	I suspect it is clang/llvm pushing this, because, webkit/apple and llvm are apple projects
[19:36]	activelow	anyway, i'll not follow any of this anymore
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[19:45]	activelow	the build script didn't complain with the check in place, and cmake/configure didn't complain either, the build standard, continued for hours, bam...
[19:45]	activelow	build started
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[19:51]	activelow	fell asleep the entire day after hacking recent nights... fridge empty, nothing but sugar for tea remaining... 10hours
[19:51]	activelow	didn't feel comcortable to walk outside, being stalked upon
[19:52]	activelow	i'll take a nap again, and go to grocery store early in the morning when streets are empty
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[21:21]	techrights-ipfs-bot	   IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.28   IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.36 swarm size (avg): 259.56  
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[21:30]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I think I got the modem mess sorted out.
[21:43]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LibreWolf/comments/q9cnpp/librewolf_macos_wont_open_afer_install_through/
[21:43]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | LibreWolf (MacOS) won't open afer install through homebrew : LibreWolf
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[21:59]	schestowitz	[21:30] <DaemonFC> schestowitz, I think I got the modem mess sorted out.
[21:59]	schestowitz	at long last
● Oct 22
[22:04]	activelow	they're not finished yet with optical fibre here, they were digging the sidewalks for month
[22:04]	activelow	strangely, they made progress really fast, and now are stuck somewhere with something it seems
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[22:06]	schestowitz-TR2	activelow: maybe they try to "look busy"
[22:07]	activelow	problem i saw to fully reject any upgrade i could was the simple fact contracts seek to enforce dual-stack lite for ipv6, no static ipv4, no dns records, no symmetric uplink data rate but instead throttled uplink
[22:07]	activelow	if at least hey had offered 10mbit/10mbit up/down data rate, but they didn't
[22:09]	activelow	currently i got 2mbit uplink speed, which is what max downlink was 20years ago already
[22:09]	activelow	got no static ipv4, no dns record, nothing
[22:09]	activelow	and the new cable modem they enforced had no benefit other than requiring twice the amount of electricity than the old one
[22:11]	activelow	and, of cause, price would increase, to at least 40Euros monthly, currently i am paying 30Euros monthly for 32mbit/2mbit including phone line
[22:12]	activelow	optical fibre to home would be even more expensive, 40euros are the first 12month, and then 50Euros, and probably more if static ipv4, dns record, and fast uplink were desired
[22:13]	activelow	i do not need 32mbit down, i need faster uplink, static ipv4, dns record, and ipv6 isn't at least a nice to have, i don't want ipv6
[22:14]	activelow	add to this, i hate this place, i do not want to live or work here
[22:14]	activelow	optical fibre changes none of this
[22:16]	activelow	schestowitz-TR2: politics argue optical fibre was requied to push innovation and attract start-ups
[22:19]	schestowitz-TR2	for some things
[22:19]	schestowitz-TR2	like Internet companies
[22:19]	schestowitz-TR2	innovation is mostly a BS buzzword
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[22:57]	DaemonFC	I've been pulling down about 3.5 times the speed I was averaging over the past week.
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[23:02]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21101528
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[23:12]	schestowitz	https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/10/this-extension-adds-macbook-style-notch-in-gnome-40-in-ubuntu-21-10/ "Im not an Apple fan and dont know why to add an ugly notch on laptop screen."
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[23:12]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | This Extension Adds MacBook Style Notch in GNOME 40 in Ubuntu 21.10 | UbuntuHandbook
[23:12]	schestowitz	Apple has fans
[23:12]	MinceR	lol
[23:12]	schestowitz	do they work?
[23:13]	schestowitz	if they stop working, is it the user's fault?
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[23:20]	schestowitz	"Unlike the male "incels", these women don't blame or hate men for not being attracted to them. They see that as an inevitable a fact of life. I understand their feelings. " https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#22_October_2021_%28Femcels%29    
[23:20]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[23:20]	schestowitz	RMS
[23:20]	schestowitz	prepare for uproar
[23:20]	schestowitz	for saying something... not convenient
[23:21]	schestowitz	"the world sucks"
[23:21]	schestowitz	"let's find some witches to burn...."
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[23:24]	DaemonFC	https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/oct/18/i-feel-hurt-that-my-life-has-ended-up-here-the-women-who-are-involuntary-celibates
[23:24]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | I feel hurt that my life has ended up here: The women who are involuntary celibates | Sex | The Guardian
[23:24]	DaemonFC	Literally one violent event happened and now all men are evil and murderous.
[23:24]	DaemonFC	That's how the left works.
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	it's not left
[23:25]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, we have videos of the lootings and burnings and rapes going on in Chicago last year.
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	it's corporate "liberalism"
[23:25]	DaemonFC	Not fair to blame an entire race though.
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[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: the troll now portrays criticism of rust as "transphobia"
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	that's the method
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	Microsoft critics?
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	bigots.
[23:25]	schestowitz-TR2	because... [some fictional BS]
[23:26]	DaemonFC	The city of Chicago worked out a deal with Microsoft for that software to predict who finna be whacked.
[23:26]	DaemonFC	Which they quietly stopped using after spending millions on it.
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[23:27]	schestowitz	https://stallman.org/live/stream-8dot8-oct-23.html
[23:27]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Software libre, tu libertad, y tu ciberseguridad - Oct 23, 2021 - Richard Stallman
[23:27]	schestowitz	talk today
[23:27]	schestowitz	by CET standards
[23:28]	MinceR	so, rust is transsexual now?
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[23:28]	DaemonFC	Allegedly some guy got a very popular Windows game to work in Wine that I was having a lot of problems with.
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR2	rust is not a company
[23:28]	DaemonFC	He put it in a zstd tarball.
[23:28]	DaemonFC	Can debian open these?
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR2	criticising rust is intolerant
[23:28]	MinceR	what was rust's sex and what is it now?
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR2	I'd rather not feed the troll
[23:28]	schestowitz-TR2	the systemd team used similar tactics
[23:29]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> what was rust's sex and what is it now?
[23:29]	DaemonFC	It had a penis but it rusted off.
[23:29]	MinceR	lol
[23:29]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: don't feed the troll
[23:29]	schestowitz-TR2	it's a trap set up by the troll
[23:29]	schestowitz-TR2	to provoke people
[23:29]	schestowitz-TR2	self-fulfilling prophecy
[23:30]	schestowitz-TR2	that troll harms actual trans people
[23:30]	schestowitz-TR2	by creating this fig leaf
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	and later people moan about that crowd fronting for corporations
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	because of the trolls
[23:31]	DaemonFC	How is questioning the technical merits of something "transphobia"?
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	anyway, RMS is giving a talk today
[23:31]	DaemonFC	There used to be arguments about putting C++ in Linux.
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	chile I think
[23:31]	DaemonFC	Was that homophobic?
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	no
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	so they escalated tactics I think
[23:31]	schestowitz-TR2	same thing systemd did
[23:31]	MinceR	c++ is not owned by microsoft or ibm, which makes c++ fair game
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Microsoft uses C++
[23:32]	schestowitz-TR2	C++ is a spec mostly
[23:32]	DaemonFC	Windows is written in it down to the "Executive" (kernel).
[23:32]	MinceR	yes, but they do not have total control over the spec yet
[23:32]	schestowitz-TR2	and also, the compilers define it
[23:32]	MinceR	which is why they were looking to have their own language
[23:32]	MinceR	visual java failed, so now they've taken over rust and they're pushing it
[23:32]	schestowitz-TR2	lol visual java
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	I remember that joke
[23:33]	MinceR	oh, also, basic failed too
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	visual it supposed to make things sound simple
[23:33]	MinceR	yeah, a joke that is an entire language
[23:33]	DaemonFC	JavaX
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	anyone who dealt with VS knows it's a mess
[23:33]	MinceR	yeah
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	it turns simple tasks into feature churn chaos
[23:33]	DaemonFC	PCWorld gave them an award for best JVM in like 1997 or something.
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	IDG
[23:33]	MinceR	lol pcworld
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	the company behind IDC
[23:33]	schestowitz-TR2	Microsoft pays them
[23:33]	DaemonFC	WavPack got so much worse, the Windows versions.
[23:34]	schestowitz-TR2	good news today: we got tons more EPO material
[23:34]	DaemonFC	He built it with that and by the time it finished shoving Microsoft's telemetry shit into it, it was 6 times bigger than the MingW builds, which also had the advantage of running on Windows 2000 and XP, still/
[23:34]	schestowitz-TR2	so much so that I cannot even properly start with the github series yet
[23:34]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: latest 2 articles are about Hungary
[23:34]	schestowitz-TR2	you can see in the front page
[23:36]	schestowitz	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/22/if-it-seems-like-nobody-at-the-t-mobile-store-wants-to-help-you-its-not-just-you-heres-why/
[23:36]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | If it seems like nobody at the T-Mobile store wants to help you, its not just you. Heres why. BaronHK's Rants
[23:36]	schestowitz	reminds me of BT and I
[23:36]	DaemonFC	David Bryant has some "Linux" machines and so someone asked him to cross compile with GCC and MingW.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	That build is very small and just as fast, and runs on 2000/XP/Vista.
[23:36]	DaemonFC	The VS 2019 build is several times larger and needs at least Windows 7.
[23:37]	DaemonFC	I doubt it would be too much work for someone to keep Firefox building on Windows Vista SP2 for some time to come.
[23:37]	schestowitz	LOLL.... "journalism" https://speedysense.com/trends-in-cloud-computing/
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[23:38]	DaemonFC	With the SP2 and Platform Update, it had almost all of the Windows 7 APIs.
[23:38]	DaemonFC	And Firefox still works on that.
[23:39]	DaemonFC	Someone in the prison's IT department "upgraded" everything to Vista.
[23:39]	DaemonFC	I mentioned "Vista" to my aunt and she goes "Oh, Vista, ugh.".
[23:39]	DaemonFC	Rolls her eyes.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	They had every problem you can imagine with it.
[23:40]	DaemonFC	She said it ruined their network printing and she had to save documents to a USB stick and take them down to the printer.
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	sounds like the wow starts now
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	btw, vista11 has similar issues
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	chris titus now does a new video/livetsream on vista 11 bugs
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	I did not click
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	but it's becomign a theme
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	vista 11 = vista 10 + LOADS of bugs
[23:44]	schestowitz-TR2	never mind hardware restrictions, bloat, price..
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	article idea^^
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	exploring all the known bugs
[23:47]	DaemonFC	I have a feeling that Microsoft will be done saying "Please." at some point and people will just wake up with it on their computer one morning (assuming the upgrade doesn't corrupt the file system or something).
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	I did not look into the pertinent issues
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	but early adopters report loads
[23:47]	DaemonFC	It's pretty bad just from what I've heard.
[23:47]	schestowitz-TR2	wait for "endless reboot" cycles to hit Vista "useds"
[23:48]	DaemonFC	Microsoft is patching it up as they go.
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	after FORCED WindowsUpdate
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	like I said, worth doing articles about 
[23:48]	DaemonFC	2021....The year Microsoft "invents" delta updates.
[23:48]	DaemonFC	:)
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	people do look up those issues online
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	I'd rather focus on patents and free software
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: that too, yes
[23:48]	schestowitz-TR2	and the media hails that as innovation
[23:49]	schestowitz-TR2	but when your software is not modular it's hard
[23:49]	schestowitz-TR2	Windows is a burning platform
[23:49]	schestowitz-TR2	10 years from now it'll be legacy like Mac OS 9 a decade back
[23:49]	DaemonFC	Fedora stopped using Delta RPM because it takes a while for RPM to put them back together as a complete RPM.
[23:49]	DaemonFC	It only makes sense to enable them on a metered connection.
[23:49]	schestowitz-TR2	Fedora is rotting away
[23:49]	schestowitz-TR2	no community left alnost
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR2	but the other distros do well
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR2	and devs move to community distros
[23:50]	schestowitz-TR2	WSL will die in a year or two, just not "officially"
[23:50]	DaemonFC	I ran into a Reddit post today where a guy said his upgrade from Debian 10 to 11 went fine.
[23:50]	schestowitz	https://news.itsfoss.com/brave-replaces-google/
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[23:51]	DaemonFC	Someone else said it's kind of sad that "Computer stays running reliably for more than 6 years without a clean install anywhere along the way." would be notable.
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: makes sense to upgrade debian is you really need new versions of things
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR2	and if you don't mind risking some extra work
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR2	like your programs not dealing gracefully with version bumbs
[23:57]	schestowitz-TR2	8bumps
[23:58]	MinceR	(cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/mijxHxi.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/t/cats/a7UbgGX )
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[23:58]		*schestowitz still uses JPilot
[23:58]	MinceR	it makes more sense to get rid of deadian and replace it with a free unix
[23:59]	DaemonFC	Flatpaks won't really care what version of Debian they're on.
[23:59]	schestowitz-TR2	you do have the option, MinceR, but many things are not available for those
[23:59]	schestowitz-TR2	you might end up doing lots of extra work
[23:59]	MinceR	yeah, like systemd
[23:59]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe flatpk
[23:59]	MinceR	but running a windows imitation definitely leads to lots of extra work