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psydroidI tried to build some free software on Windows in a virtual machine today to see what it was like, but it was a miserable experience to even get Hexchat to build for x32/x64, let alone ARM64Dec 22 00:01
psydroidI really don't know how you can get anything done on it as a developerDec 22 00:02
MinceRimagine what a disaster this industry would be if windows developers didn't have their resources wasted like thatDec 22 00:03
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/24/b4425616e4f2946b.mp4Dec 22 00:24
DaemonFC[m]I remember when it was in a magazine I was reading that Wired would go to standards compliant markup and it was something to do with Netscape 6.Dec 22 00:24
DaemonFC[m]Which also had an ad on the next page. Might have been sponsored story or something.Dec 22 00:24
DaemonFC[m]--Dec 22 00:37
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ExWXxEbZaOCnCVucxaYBrGDC/message.txt >Dec 22 00:37
MinceRthere's a lesson to be had in thereDec 22 00:39
XRevan86Don't litter.Dec 22 00:42
MinceRstop trying to pander to interest groups when making a gameDec 22 00:46
MinceRfocus on making a good gameDec 22 00:46
MinceRsome people will never be pleased. live with that.Dec 22 00:46
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/pmOS_devices/status/1340673326092591106Dec 22 02:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pmOS_devices: #postmarketOS now boots on Acer CloudMobile S500! #LinuxDec 22 02:00
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201221/09573745928/congress-once-again-sells-out-to-hollywood-sneaks-case-act-felony-streaming-bill-into-government-funding-omnibus.shtmlDec 22 04:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Congress (Once Again) Sells Out To Hollywood: Sneaks CASE Act And Felony Streaming Bill Into Government Funding Omnibus | TechdirtDec 22 04:00
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schestowitzvZS1: gmDec 22 08:25
schestowitzdid you link /bin/ipfs  to /bin somehow? I cannot find that in 'history'Dec 22 08:26
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vZS1GmDec 22 09:39
vZS1Don't think I linked thatDec 22 09:39
vZS1I only put ipfs in my homedirDec 22 09:39
vZS1Don't have privs to do that anywayDec 22 09:40
schestowitzgm, vZS1, I was about to shut down the pi for maintenance and installation of HATsDec 22 09:49
schestowitzI just checked that things would run as expected following a reboot, then noticed that when accessing the account ipfs is not found in path (bin/other)Dec 22 09:50
schestowitzin the existing working session, howeverDec 22 09:51
schestowitzxxxx@raspberrypi:~ $ which ipfsDec 22 09:51
schestowitz/home/xxxx/bin/ipfsDec 22 09:51
schestowitzI scanned history, even at root and "pi" level, for any cluesDec 22 09:51
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schestowitzI see now that $PATH varyDec 22 09:54
schestowitzacross sessionsDec 22 09:54
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schestowitzI found the fixDec 22 09:56
schestowitzvZS1: thanks, will reboot shortlyDec 22 09:56
schestowitzI just needed to redefine PATHDec 22 09:56
schestowitzas some of the binaries were in usespaceDec 22 09:56
vZS1I kept it sandboxed in my homedir.Dec 22 10:03
schestowitzI've shut off the pi for a bitDec 22 10:04
schestowitzshould be done reassembling hopefully in less than an hourDec 22 10:04
vZS1My node on an old laptop is runningDec 22 10:04
vZS1So people can still pull objectsDec 22 10:04
schestowitzAriadne said we'd be able to also migrate techrights and tuxmachines to another DC this weekDec 22 10:04
schestowitzvZS1: thanks, I think I saw 110gb on my nodeDec 22 10:05
vZS1A lot of that is just DHT trafficDec 22 10:05
vZS1Most of itDec 22 10:05
schestowitzthe techrights site is about 2tb in the past 8 daysDec 22 10:05
vZS1I'd pay more attention to the index metricsDec 22 10:06
vZS1Requests per weekDec 22 10:06
vZS1That kind of thingDec 22 10:06
vZS1Has the number of GET requests for the indices grown, per day/week?Dec 22 10:07
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schestowitzvZS1: nice. It worked while the pi was offline https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmSfJ73cH6MLEHhch8bgEhBGC43kVNADRJUpeQv2hcUsrEDec 22 11:29
schestowitz'ipfs daemon' starts it, right?Dec 22 11:32
schestowitzseems like it's running again, with bw count starting from 9Dec 22 11:34
schestowitz0Dec 22 11:34
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vZS1> 'ipfs daemon' starts it, right?Dec 22 11:44
vZS1YepDec 22 11:44
scientesugghDec 22 11:46
scienteswhen progress bars start overDec 22 11:46
scienteskinda defeats the purpose of having a progress barDec 22 11:46
schestowitzvZS1: I forgot to run it in the backgroundDec 22 11:47
vZS1It prints to stderrDec 22 11:47
vZS1You can start in bg and just redirect the output to append some file or even just /dev/nullDec 22 11:48
schestowitz ipfs daemon &Dec 22 11:48
schestowitzI added some HATsDec 22 11:49
schestowitzanyway, it's good to know what to run following a reboot of it. First time we reboot this.Dec 22 11:49
vZS1`ipfs daemon 2> /dev/null &` works tooDec 22 11:49
vZS1It's pretty stupidDec 22 11:50
vZS1That's why I like itDec 22 11:50
vZS1Doesn't try to be clever like a lot of BitTorrent daemons Dec 22 11:50
vZS1I've got my node just restarting on reboot as it is sandboxed in a dedicated ipfs user account. Has a user crontabDec 22 11:51
vZS1So it's pretty much a set up and forget kind of thingDec 22 11:52
vZS1This way I can even do the identical setup on a BSD machineDec 22 11:53
vZS1No LinuxismsDec 22 11:53
Ariadneyes, we should get on this and get it done this weekDec 22 11:54
Ariadnei'll set up the replication todayDec 22 11:54
schestowitzcool!Dec 22 11:58
vZS1You should also see an entire log of pin logs because the bot _is_ a Git repoDec 22 11:59
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Ariadnemy guess is that we should probably turn ipfs into an openrc service on the new infrastructureDec 22 12:17
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MinceRhttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/12/21/atrocious-congress-crams-language-criminalize-online-streaming-meme-sharing-5500Dec 22 13:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Is Atrocious': Congress Crams Language to Criminalize Online Streaming, Meme-Sharing Into 5,500-Page Omnibus Bill | Common Dreams NewsDec 22 13:59
schestowitzyesDec 22 13:59
schestowitzmedia missed itDec 22 13:59
schestowitztechdirt did notDec 22 14:00
MinceR"missed" it :>Dec 22 14:00
schestowitzjust focus on the name of the billDec 22 14:07
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/23/a4356af32d11cdc2.jpgDec 22 16:25
schestowitzMinceR: I'll 'steal' this for EPO memeDec 22 16:29
MinceR:)Dec 22 16:29
schestowitzfonts are inconsistentDec 22 16:30
schestowitzso you can it was reused from something else alreadyDec 22 16:30
schestowitzUS passed anti-meme lawsDec 22 16:30
schestowitzbutDec 22 16:30
schestowitzstimulusDec 22 16:30
schestowitzif you vote against, you LITERALLY STARVE PEOPLEDec 22 16:31
MinceRi wish i couldDec 22 16:31
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schestowitzMinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/invalid-patents.jpgDec 22 16:36
MinceR:)Dec 22 16:37
schestowitzMinceR: can you spot typos here/ http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/blame-the-judges/Dec 22 16:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Always Blame the Judges, the Law, and the Lazy Scientists… Not Corrupt Eurocrats | TechrightsDec 22 16:40
MinceRi can't spot anyDec 22 16:46
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schestowitzcheersDec 22 16:47
schestowitzAriadne: I'll try to stay awake the rest of the dayDec 22 16:47
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schestowitzslept about 20 hours in 2 daysDec 22 16:47
schestowitzhopefully we can at least shift databases acrossDec 22 16:47
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MinceR(cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/f8459312d4455335.mp4Dec 22 17:09
scientesmy godDec 22 17:14
scientesreddit is completely unusable these daysDec 22 17:15
scientesbecause they try to give you different content than what you are looking atDec 22 17:15
psydroidlolDec 22 17:20
psydroidtwitter and facebook syndromeDec 22 17:20
scientestwitter also doesn't work with javascreiptDec 22 17:20
scientesaparently SMS requires javascript nowDec 22 17:21
scientes*withoutDec 22 17:21
scientesi run with js on, but if I have to wait so long for a page to load I usually have already hit "back"Dec 22 17:21
MinceRnitter.net does work without javascript, but it's read-onlyDec 22 17:21
MinceRand so far i haven't found a working way to download videos from itDec 22 17:22
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MinceRso i had to use twitter urls for youtube-dlDec 22 17:22
scientesyeah, but I  have approximentally zero interest in the context on twitterDec 22 17:22
scientesnon-tentDec 22 17:22
scientesnontent is the opposite of contentDec 22 17:22
schestowitzthere is context in twitter?!?!?!?Dec 22 17:29
MinceRlolDec 22 17:29
schestowitzthose are incompatible wordsDec 22 17:30
schestowitzand it's also highlighting why social control media will die in a few yearsDec 22 17:30
schestowitzmore people realise it's worthlessDec 22 17:30
schestowitzmaybe addictive at first, but a waste of timeDec 22 17:30
scientes"social control media"Dec 22 17:31
scientesniceDec 22 17:31
schestowitzDec 22 17:32
schestowitzI’m so glad I never started using Twitter. I’ve heard of HR departments that will query data brokers and use your Twitter, Facebook and other social media to generate a score about the type of person you areDec 22 17:32
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/12/16/twitter-in-2020-is-toxic/#comment-325934Dec 22 17:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Twitter is Just Social Control Media | TechrightsDec 22 17:32
schestowitzforgot the quote signs aboveDec 22 17:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/vishne0/status/1341233926547808256Dec 22 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vishne0: Microsoft Security Theatre and Microsoft-Funded Media Frenzy That Stigmatises Linux https://t.co/LIZa5dU4z6… https://t.co/EXcJqOqADODec 22 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/12/19/security-theatre/ )Dec 22 17:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vishne0: Microsoft Security Theatre and Microsoft-Funded Media Frenzy That Stigmatises Linux https://t.co/LIZa5dU4z6… https://t.co/EXcJqOqADODec 22 17:33
schestowitzmany tweets are just copies of headlinesDec 22 17:33
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schestowitzof actual articlesDec 22 17:33
schestowitzso you know you don't get much out of "tweets" anywayDec 22 17:33
schestowitzmight as well use RSS feeds of many decent sitesDec 22 17:33
scientesschestowitz, I once did an encrypted message over FacebookDec 22 17:34
scientesusing XMPPDec 22 17:34
scientesbut you can't do thank anymore, for many yearsDec 22 17:34
scientesit also told me in the logs "encrypted conversation"Dec 22 17:34
schestowitz*thank?Dec 22 17:34
scienteswhich shows how much data mining they do on that dataDec 22 17:34
schestowitzsay spyingDec 22 17:35
scientesyesDec 22 17:35
schestowitzdata-mining is one of the euphemismsDec 22 17:35
schestowitzlike "big data"Dec 22 17:35
scienteshow much peeping tom they do on meDec 22 17:35
schestowitz"what data?"Dec 22 17:35
schestowitz"BIG... data"Dec 22 17:35
schestowitzWhose?Dec 22 17:35
schestowitzwhat fpr?Dec 22 17:35
schestowitzI once dated a girl who asked me for my FB accountDec 22 17:35
schestowitzI told her I had noneDec 22 17:36
schestowitzthey want to have romantic chats over a spook siteDec 22 17:36
scientesschestowitz, yeah everything you say about twitter controlling you applies to reddit nowDec 22 17:41
scientesI just tried to view one AMA by gregkh and I honestly couldn'tDec 22 17:41
scientesbecause it kept trying to show me completely irrelevent stuffDec 22 17:41
smnthermesTwitter requires phone number for new accountsDec 22 17:42
smnthermesNowadaysDec 22 17:42
scientesand required me to keep clicking just to see the very page I was oneDec 22 17:42
scientessmnthermes, it has been like that for a long timeDec 22 17:42
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scientessmnthermes, if you created an account from a tier 2 IP address like a public library it wouldn't really workDec 22 17:42
scientesand that was like 6-7 years agoDec 22 17:42
scientesI have not even visited the site since thenDec 22 17:43
scienteslike I will click a link to twitter and I hit "back" before it loads (because it takes ages to load)Dec 22 17:43
scientesand on YouTube suggested videos I will see the same Video for months, even though I *never* xlick on itDec 22 17:48
scientesand is totally unrelatedDec 22 17:48
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scientesschestowitz, a big part of social control media is to create bubbles so that they they can continue to play this musical chair gameDec 22 18:10
schestowitzand cancel peopleDec 22 18:11
schestowitzthey can artificially amplify what suits themDec 22 18:11
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/Dec 22 18:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fake ‘Door Sign’ Used to Frame Richard Stallman and Misrepresent Him One Year Ago (the Media Never Corrected This Slanderous Allegation) | TechrightsDec 22 18:11
scientesyes, the libel is a serious term-offDec 22 18:12
scientesand standard practice, even going go high as those marches in Paris in support of libelDec 22 18:13
scientesarchive.is is down?Dec 22 18:14
scientesgeezeDec 22 18:14
MinceRseems to be up from hereDec 22 18:15
scienteswell we all know that VICE is CIA https://web.archive.org/web/20201114234351/https://archive.is/RVpddDec 22 18:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Famed Computer Scientist Richard Stallman Described Epstein Victims As 'Entirely Willing' - VICEDec 22 18:15
scienteshas been so obvious to me for yearsDec 22 18:15
scientesI mean, you have to do connections to do many of the topics they doDec 22 18:15
*MinceR is tempted to have archive.is make an archive of that linkDec 22 18:16
scientesMinceR, with the funraiser banner too?Dec 22 18:17
scientes:)Dec 22 18:17
MinceRindeedDec 22 18:17
scienteshttps://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/Dec 22 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement - Software Freedom ConservancyDec 22 18:18
scientesuhu, and this news post doesn't even have an author?Dec 22 18:18
scientesanyways, schestowitz did you post about the Apple factory in India that the workers burned down?Dec 22 18:20
scientesor at least started fires outside and trashed the lobbyDec 22 18:20
scientesafter they were paid less than half of what was promisedDec 22 18:20
schestowitzI heard about itDec 22 18:20
schestowitzand saw some theories about itDec 22 18:20
schestowitz[18:18] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- sfconservancy.org | Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement - Software Freedom ConservancyDec 22 18:22
scienteshttps://whoisylvia.medium.com/richard-stallman-has-been-vilified-by-those-who-dont-know-him-a3907b25b4c7Dec 22 18:22
schestowitzFunded by Microsoft alreadyDec 22 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whoisylvia.medium.com | Richard Stallman Has Been Vilified by Those Who Don’t Know Him | by Sylvia Paull | MediumDec 22 18:22
schestowitzand took more Microsoft money months laterDec 22 18:22
schestowitzto sell them keynote slot in GPL conferenceDec 22 18:22
scientesschestowitz, but it is also just posting libel without an authorDec 22 18:24
scientesits quite cowardiceDec 22 18:24
schestowitzyes, I knowDec 22 18:24
schestowitzwe wrote about those things and posts many times, both this year and last yearDec 22 18:24
schestowitzthe coup is not over yetDec 22 18:24
schestowitznow they try to poison his mind (RMS) against usDec 22 18:25
schestowitz"they"=people we criticiseDec 22 18:25
scientes<schestowitz> now they try to poison his mind (RMS) against usDec 22 18:25
scienteshahahahaDec 22 18:25
scienteslike in The MatrixDec 22 18:25
scientesmorpheusDec 22 18:26
scientesthe Free Software ZionDec 22 18:26
schestowitzBAM! We were rigtht!!! https://www.bristowsupc.com/latest-news/two-constitutional-complaints-filed-against-new-german-upc-legislation/Dec 22 18:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristowsupc.com | Two constitutional complaints filed against new German UPC legislation | Latest news | Unified Patent Court and Unitary PatentDec 22 18:26
schestowitzTWO, not oneDec 22 18:26
schestowitzThat was my estimationDec 22 18:26
schestowitzzoobab: ^^Dec 22 18:26
scientesschestowitz, and the EU doesn't even fucking existDec 22 18:27
schestowitz:-)Dec 22 18:27
scientesthey had this thing called then "Shenghen" zone (not to be confused with Shenzhen, which actually exists)Dec 22 18:27
scientesand then it just ceased to existDec 22 18:27
scientesbig reason I don't want to go back to any other those placesDec 22 18:27
scientesthey don't even stamp your passportDec 22 18:27
scientesbecause there is no rule of lawDec 22 18:27
MinceRSchengenDec 22 18:29
schestowitzSche Sche... Sche ScheDec 22 18:29
scientesmay the schwartz be with youDec 22 18:29
MinceR:)Dec 22 18:30
schestowitzI was thinking more like the phraseDec 22 18:30
schestowitzin a soft female voiceDec 22 18:30
scientesalso, people from poland/germany think bagels come from New YorkDec 22 18:30
scienteswhen they come from poland/germanyDec 22 18:30
schestowitzNew York did not come from New YorkDec 22 18:30
schestowitzit's a bus drive away from year... YorkDec 22 18:30
schestowitz*hereDec 22 18:30
scientesit came from new amsterdamDec 22 18:30
scientesschestowitz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_AmsterdamDec 22 18:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | New Amsterdam - WikipediaDec 22 18:31
scientesschestowitz, it was part of the restoration after the Oliver Cromwell revolutionDec 22 18:32
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/23/8ff889506e1e92af.jpgDec 22 18:53
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DaemonFC[m]https://olhardigital.com.br/en/2019/01/14/tips-and-tutorials/how-to-make-windows-10-look-like-windows-95/Dec 22 19:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olhardigital.com.br | How to make Windows 10 look like Windows 95 - Olhar DigitalDec 22 19:39
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MinceRhow to make windows 10 look like ms-dos 6.22Dec 22 19:58
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smnthermeshttps://img.olhardigital.com.br/uploads/acervo_imagens/2019/01/20190114141706.jpgDec 22 20:06
smnthermes??Dec 22 20:06
MinceRdoesn't look terribly successfulDec 22 20:09
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/9SSv4sy.pngDec 22 20:17
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*schestowitz gruntsDec 22 20:37
schestowitzAriadne: will you be around later?Dec 22 20:38
schestowitzWatchtroll now: "How the 2020 Coronavirus Pandemic Changed IP Practice"Dec 22 20:42
schestowitzJust nowDec 22 20:42
schestowitz"AYE PEE"Dec 22 20:42
MinceRIP, you pee, we all pee?Dec 22 20:43
schestowitzIP at 192.168Dec 22 20:43
schestowitzlocalHOSEDec 22 20:44
schestowitzThe Linux environment is more insecure than Microsoft. This is an issue the industry needs to be aware of.Dec 22 20:45
schestowitz - Mark Greatorex, MicrosoftDec 22 20:45
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psydroidMicrosoft Education(TM)Dec 22 21:02
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Ariadnedealing with my bankDec 22 21:19
MinceRhttps://assets.amuniversal.com/ee3865c07b6801380281005056a9545d   ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-06-04 )Dec 22 21:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Factories No Buyers - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2020-06-04 | Dilbert by Scott AdamsDec 22 21:23
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/02b2eb9cfc7c318e.jpgDec 22 21:47
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