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psydroid | I tried to build some free software on Windows in a virtual machine today to see what it was like, but it was a miserable experience to even get Hexchat to build for x32/x64, let alone ARM64 | Dec 22 00:01 |
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psydroid | I really don't know how you can get anything done on it as a developer | Dec 22 00:02 |
MinceR | imagine what a disaster this industry would be if windows developers didn't have their resources wasted like that | Dec 22 00:03 |
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MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/24/b4425616e4f2946b.mp4 | Dec 22 00:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | I remember when it was in a magazine I was reading that Wired would go to standards compliant markup and it was something to do with Netscape 6. | Dec 22 00:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which also had an ad on the next page. Might have been sponsored story or something. | Dec 22 00:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | -- | Dec 22 00:37 |
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ExWXxEbZaOCnCVucxaYBrGDC/message.txt > | Dec 22 00:37 | |
MinceR | there's a lesson to be had in there | Dec 22 00:39 |
XRevan86 | Don't litter. | Dec 22 00:42 |
MinceR | stop trying to pander to interest groups when making a game | Dec 22 00:46 |
MinceR | focus on making a good game | Dec 22 00:46 |
MinceR | some people will never be pleased. live with that. | Dec 22 00:46 |
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schestowitz | https://twitter.com/pmOS_devices/status/1340673326092591106 | Dec 22 02:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@pmOS_devices: #postmarketOS now boots on Acer CloudMobile S500! #Linux | Dec 22 02:00 | |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20201221/09573745928/congress-once-again-sells-out-to-hollywood-sneaks-case-act-felony-streaming-bill-into-government-funding-omnibus.shtml | Dec 22 04:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Congress (Once Again) Sells Out To Hollywood: Sneaks CASE Act And Felony Streaming Bill Into Government Funding Omnibus | Techdirt | Dec 22 04:00 | |
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schestowitz | vZS1: gm | Dec 22 08:25 |
schestowitz | did you link /bin/ipfs to /bin somehow? I cannot find that in 'history' | Dec 22 08:26 |
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vZS1 | Gm | Dec 22 09:39 |
vZS1 | Don't think I linked that | Dec 22 09:39 |
vZS1 | I only put ipfs in my homedir | Dec 22 09:39 |
vZS1 | Don't have privs to do that anyway | Dec 22 09:40 |
schestowitz | gm, vZS1, I was about to shut down the pi for maintenance and installation of HATs | Dec 22 09:49 |
schestowitz | I just checked that things would run as expected following a reboot, then noticed that when accessing the account ipfs is not found in path (bin/other) | Dec 22 09:50 |
schestowitz | in the existing working session, however | Dec 22 09:51 |
schestowitz | xxxx@raspberrypi:~ $ which ipfs | Dec 22 09:51 |
schestowitz | /home/xxxx/bin/ipfs | Dec 22 09:51 |
schestowitz | I scanned history, even at root and "pi" level, for any clues | Dec 22 09:51 |
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schestowitz | I see now that $PATH vary | Dec 22 09:54 |
schestowitz | across sessions | Dec 22 09:54 |
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schestowitz | I found the fix | Dec 22 09:56 |
schestowitz | vZS1: thanks, will reboot shortly | Dec 22 09:56 |
schestowitz | I just needed to redefine PATH | Dec 22 09:56 |
schestowitz | as some of the binaries were in usespace | Dec 22 09:56 |
vZS1 | I kept it sandboxed in my homedir. | Dec 22 10:03 |
schestowitz | I've shut off the pi for a bit | Dec 22 10:04 |
schestowitz | should be done reassembling hopefully in less than an hour | Dec 22 10:04 |
vZS1 | My node on an old laptop is running | Dec 22 10:04 |
vZS1 | So people can still pull objects | Dec 22 10:04 |
schestowitz | Ariadne said we'd be able to also migrate techrights and tuxmachines to another DC this week | Dec 22 10:04 |
schestowitz | vZS1: thanks, I think I saw 110gb on my node | Dec 22 10:05 |
vZS1 | A lot of that is just DHT traffic | Dec 22 10:05 |
vZS1 | Most of it | Dec 22 10:05 |
schestowitz | the techrights site is about 2tb in the past 8 days | Dec 22 10:05 |
vZS1 | I'd pay more attention to the index metrics | Dec 22 10:06 |
vZS1 | Requests per week | Dec 22 10:06 |
vZS1 | That kind of thing | Dec 22 10:06 |
vZS1 | Has the number of GET requests for the indices grown, per day/week? | Dec 22 10:07 |
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schestowitz | vZS1: nice. It worked while the pi was offline https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmSfJ73cH6MLEHhch8bgEhBGC43kVNADRJUpeQv2hcUsrE | Dec 22 11:29 |
schestowitz | 'ipfs daemon' starts it, right? | Dec 22 11:32 |
schestowitz | seems like it's running again, with bw count starting from 9 | Dec 22 11:34 |
schestowitz | 0 | Dec 22 11:34 |
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vZS1 | > 'ipfs daemon' starts it, right? | Dec 22 11:44 |
vZS1 | Yep | Dec 22 11:44 |
scientes | uggh | Dec 22 11:46 |
scientes | when progress bars start over | Dec 22 11:46 |
scientes | kinda defeats the purpose of having a progress bar | Dec 22 11:46 |
schestowitz | vZS1: I forgot to run it in the background | Dec 22 11:47 |
vZS1 | It prints to stderr | Dec 22 11:47 |
vZS1 | You can start in bg and just redirect the output to append some file or even just /dev/null | Dec 22 11:48 |
schestowitz | ipfs daemon & | Dec 22 11:48 |
schestowitz | I added some HATs | Dec 22 11:49 |
schestowitz | anyway, it's good to know what to run following a reboot of it. First time we reboot this. | Dec 22 11:49 |
vZS1 | `ipfs daemon 2> /dev/null &` works too | Dec 22 11:49 |
vZS1 | It's pretty stupid | Dec 22 11:50 |
vZS1 | That's why I like it | Dec 22 11:50 |
vZS1 | Doesn't try to be clever like a lot of BitTorrent daemons | Dec 22 11:50 |
vZS1 | I've got my node just restarting on reboot as it is sandboxed in a dedicated ipfs user account. Has a user crontab | Dec 22 11:51 |
vZS1 | So it's pretty much a set up and forget kind of thing | Dec 22 11:52 |
vZS1 | This way I can even do the identical setup on a BSD machine | Dec 22 11:53 |
vZS1 | No Linuxisms | Dec 22 11:53 |
Ariadne | yes, we should get on this and get it done this week | Dec 22 11:54 |
Ariadne | i'll set up the replication today | Dec 22 11:54 |
schestowitz | cool! | Dec 22 11:58 |
vZS1 | You should also see an entire log of pin logs because the bot _is_ a Git repo | Dec 22 11:59 |
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Ariadne | my guess is that we should probably turn ipfs into an openrc service on the new infrastructure | Dec 22 12:17 |
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MinceR | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/12/21/atrocious-congress-crams-language-criminalize-online-streaming-meme-sharing-5500 | Dec 22 13:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'This Is Atrocious': Congress Crams Language to Criminalize Online Streaming, Meme-Sharing Into 5,500-Page Omnibus Bill | Common Dreams News | Dec 22 13:59 | |
schestowitz | yes | Dec 22 13:59 |
schestowitz | media missed it | Dec 22 13:59 |
schestowitz | techdirt did not | Dec 22 14:00 |
MinceR | "missed" it :> | Dec 22 14:00 |
schestowitz | just focus on the name of the bill | Dec 22 14:07 |
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MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/23/a4356af32d11cdc2.jpg | Dec 22 16:25 |
schestowitz | MinceR: I'll 'steal' this for EPO meme | Dec 22 16:29 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 22 16:29 |
schestowitz | fonts are inconsistent | Dec 22 16:30 |
schestowitz | so you can it was reused from something else already | Dec 22 16:30 |
schestowitz | US passed anti-meme laws | Dec 22 16:30 |
schestowitz | but | Dec 22 16:30 |
schestowitz | stimulus | Dec 22 16:30 |
schestowitz | if you vote against, you LITERALLY STARVE PEOPLE | Dec 22 16:31 |
MinceR | i wish i could | Dec 22 16:31 |
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schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/invalid-patents.jpg | Dec 22 16:36 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 22 16:37 |
schestowitz | MinceR: can you spot typos here/ http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/blame-the-judges/ | Dec 22 16:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Always Blame the Judges, the Law, and the Lazy Scientists… Not Corrupt Eurocrats | Techrights | Dec 22 16:40 | |
MinceR | i can't spot any | Dec 22 16:46 |
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schestowitz | cheers | Dec 22 16:47 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: I'll try to stay awake the rest of the day | Dec 22 16:47 |
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schestowitz | slept about 20 hours in 2 days | Dec 22 16:47 |
schestowitz | hopefully we can at least shift databases across | Dec 22 16:47 |
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MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/f8459312d4455335.mp4 | Dec 22 17:09 |
scientes | my god | Dec 22 17:14 |
scientes | reddit is completely unusable these days | Dec 22 17:15 |
scientes | because they try to give you different content than what you are looking at | Dec 22 17:15 |
psydroid | lol | Dec 22 17:20 |
psydroid | twitter and facebook syndrome | Dec 22 17:20 |
scientes | twitter also doesn't work with javascreipt | Dec 22 17:20 |
scientes | aparently SMS requires javascript now | Dec 22 17:21 |
scientes | *without | Dec 22 17:21 |
scientes | i run with js on, but if I have to wait so long for a page to load I usually have already hit "back" | Dec 22 17:21 |
MinceR | nitter.net does work without javascript, but it's read-only | Dec 22 17:21 |
MinceR | and so far i haven't found a working way to download videos from it | Dec 22 17:22 |
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MinceR | so i had to use twitter urls for youtube-dl | Dec 22 17:22 |
scientes | yeah, but I have approximentally zero interest in the context on twitter | Dec 22 17:22 |
scientes | non-tent | Dec 22 17:22 |
scientes | nontent is the opposite of content | Dec 22 17:22 |
schestowitz | there is context in twitter?!?!?!? | Dec 22 17:29 |
MinceR | lol | Dec 22 17:29 |
schestowitz | those are incompatible words | Dec 22 17:30 |
schestowitz | and it's also highlighting why social control media will die in a few years | Dec 22 17:30 |
schestowitz | more people realise it's worthless | Dec 22 17:30 |
schestowitz | maybe addictive at first, but a waste of time | Dec 22 17:30 |
scientes | "social control media" | Dec 22 17:31 |
scientes | nice | Dec 22 17:31 |
schestowitz |  | Dec 22 17:32 |
schestowitz | I’m so glad I never started using Twitter. I’ve heard of HR departments that will query data brokers and use your Twitter, Facebook and other social media to generate a score about the type of person you are | Dec 22 17:32 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/16/twitter-in-2020-is-toxic/#comment-325934 | Dec 22 17:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Twitter is Just Social Control Media | Techrights | Dec 22 17:32 | |
schestowitz | forgot the quote signs above | Dec 22 17:32 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/vishne0/status/1341233926547808256 | Dec 22 17:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vishne0: Microsoft Security Theatre and Microsoft-Funded Media Frenzy That Stigmatises Linux https://t.co/LIZa5dU4z6… https://t.co/EXcJqOqADO | Dec 22 17:33 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/12/19/security-theatre/ ) | Dec 22 17:33 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@vishne0: Microsoft Security Theatre and Microsoft-Funded Media Frenzy That Stigmatises Linux https://t.co/LIZa5dU4z6… https://t.co/EXcJqOqADO | Dec 22 17:33 | |
schestowitz | many tweets are just copies of headlines | Dec 22 17:33 |
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schestowitz | of actual articles | Dec 22 17:33 |
schestowitz | so you know you don't get much out of "tweets" anyway | Dec 22 17:33 |
schestowitz | might as well use RSS feeds of many decent sites | Dec 22 17:33 |
scientes | schestowitz, I once did an encrypted message over Facebook | Dec 22 17:34 |
scientes | using XMPP | Dec 22 17:34 |
scientes | but you can't do thank anymore, for many years | Dec 22 17:34 |
scientes | it also told me in the logs "encrypted conversation" | Dec 22 17:34 |
schestowitz | *thank? | Dec 22 17:34 |
scientes | which shows how much data mining they do on that data | Dec 22 17:34 |
schestowitz | say spying | Dec 22 17:35 |
scientes | yes | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | data-mining is one of the euphemisms | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | like "big data" | Dec 22 17:35 |
scientes | how much peeping tom they do on me | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | "what data?" | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | "BIG... data" | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | Whose? | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | what fpr? | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | I once dated a girl who asked me for my FB account | Dec 22 17:35 |
schestowitz | I told her I had none | Dec 22 17:36 |
schestowitz | they want to have romantic chats over a spook site | Dec 22 17:36 |
scientes | schestowitz, yeah everything you say about twitter controlling you applies to reddit now | Dec 22 17:41 |
scientes | I just tried to view one AMA by gregkh and I honestly couldn't | Dec 22 17:41 |
scientes | because it kept trying to show me completely irrelevent stuff | Dec 22 17:41 |
smnthermes | Twitter requires phone number for new accounts | Dec 22 17:42 |
smnthermes | Nowadays | Dec 22 17:42 |
scientes | and required me to keep clicking just to see the very page I was one | Dec 22 17:42 |
scientes | smnthermes, it has been like that for a long time | Dec 22 17:42 |
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scientes | smnthermes, if you created an account from a tier 2 IP address like a public library it wouldn't really work | Dec 22 17:42 |
scientes | and that was like 6-7 years ago | Dec 22 17:42 |
scientes | I have not even visited the site since then | Dec 22 17:43 |
scientes | like I will click a link to twitter and I hit "back" before it loads (because it takes ages to load) | Dec 22 17:43 |
scientes | and on YouTube suggested videos I will see the same Video for months, even though I *never* xlick on it | Dec 22 17:48 |
scientes | and is totally unrelated | Dec 22 17:48 |
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scientes | schestowitz, a big part of social control media is to create bubbles so that they they can continue to play this musical chair game | Dec 22 18:10 |
schestowitz | and cancel people | Dec 22 18:11 |
schestowitz | they can artificially amplify what suits them | Dec 22 18:11 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/the-fake-door-sign/ | Dec 22 18:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Fake ‘Door Sign’ Used to Frame Richard Stallman and Misrepresent Him One Year Ago (the Media Never Corrected This Slanderous Allegation) | Techrights | Dec 22 18:11 | |
scientes | yes, the libel is a serious term-off | Dec 22 18:12 |
scientes | and standard practice, even going go high as those marches in Paris in support of libel | Dec 22 18:13 |
scientes | archive.is is down? | Dec 22 18:14 |
scientes | geeze | Dec 22 18:14 |
MinceR | seems to be up from here | Dec 22 18:15 |
scientes | well we all know that VICE is CIA https://web.archive.org/web/20201114234351/https://archive.is/RVpdd | Dec 22 18:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Famed Computer Scientist Richard Stallman Described Epstein Victims As 'Entirely Willing' - VICE | Dec 22 18:15 | |
scientes | has been so obvious to me for years | Dec 22 18:15 |
scientes | I mean, you have to do connections to do many of the topics they do | Dec 22 18:15 |
*MinceR is tempted to have archive.is make an archive of that link | Dec 22 18:16 | |
scientes | MinceR, with the funraiser banner too? | Dec 22 18:17 |
scientes | :) | Dec 22 18:17 |
MinceR | indeed | Dec 22 18:17 |
scientes | https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/ | Dec 22 18:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement - Software Freedom Conservancy | Dec 22 18:18 | |
scientes | uhu, and this news post doesn't even have an author? | Dec 22 18:18 |
scientes | anyways, schestowitz did you post about the Apple factory in India that the workers burned down? | Dec 22 18:20 |
scientes | or at least started fires outside and trashed the lobby | Dec 22 18:20 |
scientes | after they were paid less than half of what was promised | Dec 22 18:20 |
schestowitz | I heard about it | Dec 22 18:20 |
schestowitz | and saw some theories about it | Dec 22 18:20 |
schestowitz | [18:18] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- sfconservancy.org | Richard Stallman Does Not and Cannot Speak for the Free Software Movement - Software Freedom Conservancy | Dec 22 18:22 |
scientes | https://whoisylvia.medium.com/richard-stallman-has-been-vilified-by-those-who-dont-know-him-a3907b25b4c7 | Dec 22 18:22 |
schestowitz | Funded by Microsoft already | Dec 22 18:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-whoisylvia.medium.com | Richard Stallman Has Been Vilified by Those Who Don’t Know Him | by Sylvia Paull | Medium | Dec 22 18:22 | |
schestowitz | and took more Microsoft money months later | Dec 22 18:22 |
schestowitz | to sell them keynote slot in GPL conference | Dec 22 18:22 |
scientes | schestowitz, but it is also just posting libel without an author | Dec 22 18:24 |
scientes | its quite cowardice | Dec 22 18:24 |
schestowitz | yes, I know | Dec 22 18:24 |
schestowitz | we wrote about those things and posts many times, both this year and last year | Dec 22 18:24 |
schestowitz | the coup is not over yet | Dec 22 18:24 |
schestowitz | now they try to poison his mind (RMS) against us | Dec 22 18:25 |
schestowitz | "they"=people we criticise | Dec 22 18:25 |
scientes | <schestowitz> now they try to poison his mind (RMS) against us | Dec 22 18:25 |
scientes | hahahaha | Dec 22 18:25 |
scientes | like in The Matrix | Dec 22 18:25 |
scientes | morpheus | Dec 22 18:26 |
scientes | the Free Software Zion | Dec 22 18:26 |
schestowitz | BAM! We were rigtht!!! https://www.bristowsupc.com/latest-news/two-constitutional-complaints-filed-against-new-german-upc-legislation/ | Dec 22 18:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bristowsupc.com | Two constitutional complaints filed against new German UPC legislation | Latest news | Unified Patent Court and Unitary Patent | Dec 22 18:26 | |
schestowitz | TWO, not one | Dec 22 18:26 |
schestowitz | That was my estimation | Dec 22 18:26 |
schestowitz | zoobab: ^^ | Dec 22 18:26 |
scientes | schestowitz, and the EU doesn't even fucking exist | Dec 22 18:27 |
schestowitz | :-) | Dec 22 18:27 |
scientes | they had this thing called then "Shenghen" zone (not to be confused with Shenzhen, which actually exists) | Dec 22 18:27 |
scientes | and then it just ceased to exist | Dec 22 18:27 |
scientes | big reason I don't want to go back to any other those places | Dec 22 18:27 |
scientes | they don't even stamp your passport | Dec 22 18:27 |
scientes | because there is no rule of law | Dec 22 18:27 |
MinceR | Schengen | Dec 22 18:29 |
schestowitz | Sche Sche... Sche Sche | Dec 22 18:29 |
scientes | may the schwartz be with you | Dec 22 18:29 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 22 18:30 |
schestowitz | I was thinking more like the phrase | Dec 22 18:30 |
schestowitz | in a soft female voice | Dec 22 18:30 |
scientes | also, people from poland/germany think bagels come from New York | Dec 22 18:30 |
scientes | when they come from poland/germany | Dec 22 18:30 |
schestowitz | New York did not come from New York | Dec 22 18:30 |
schestowitz | it's a bus drive away from year... York | Dec 22 18:30 |
schestowitz | *here | Dec 22 18:30 |
scientes | it came from new amsterdam | Dec 22 18:30 |
scientes | schestowitz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam | Dec 22 18:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | New Amsterdam - Wikipedia | Dec 22 18:31 | |
scientes | schestowitz, it was part of the restoration after the Oliver Cromwell revolution | Dec 22 18:32 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/23/8ff889506e1e92af.jpg | Dec 22 18:53 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://olhardigital.com.br/en/2019/01/14/tips-and-tutorials/how-to-make-windows-10-look-like-windows-95/ | Dec 22 19:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-olhardigital.com.br | How to make Windows 10 look like Windows 95 - Olhar Digital | Dec 22 19:39 | |
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MinceR | how to make windows 10 look like ms-dos 6.22 | Dec 22 19:58 |
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smnthermes | https://img.olhardigital.com.br/uploads/acervo_imagens/2019/01/20190114141706.jpg | Dec 22 20:06 |
smnthermes | ?? | Dec 22 20:06 |
MinceR | doesn't look terribly successful | Dec 22 20:09 |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/9SSv4sy.png | Dec 22 20:17 |
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*schestowitz grunts | Dec 22 20:37 | |
schestowitz | Ariadne: will you be around later? | Dec 22 20:38 |
schestowitz | Watchtroll now: "How the 2020 Coronavirus Pandemic Changed IP Practice" | Dec 22 20:42 |
schestowitz | Just now | Dec 22 20:42 |
schestowitz | "AYE PEE" | Dec 22 20:42 |
MinceR | IP, you pee, we all pee? | Dec 22 20:43 |
schestowitz | IP at 192.168 | Dec 22 20:43 |
schestowitz | localHOSE | Dec 22 20:44 |
schestowitz | The Linux environment is more insecure than Microsoft. This is an issue the industry needs to be aware of. | Dec 22 20:45 |
schestowitz | - Mark Greatorex, Microsoft | Dec 22 20:45 |
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psydroid | Microsoft Education(TM) | Dec 22 21:02 |
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Ariadne | dealing with my bank | Dec 22 21:19 |
MinceR | https://assets.amuniversal.com/ee3865c07b6801380281005056a9545d ( https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-06-04 ) | Dec 22 21:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Factories No Buyers - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2020-06-04 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Dec 22 21:23 | |
MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/02b2eb9cfc7c318e.jpg | Dec 22 21:47 |
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