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| tedbox | [20:59] <DaemonFC[m]> With COVID-19 it's getting harder to find old people each day. | Mar 23 02:01 |
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| tedbox | maybe outdoor | Mar 23 02:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/22/politics/fact-check-trump-coronavirus-false-claims-march/index.html | Mar 23 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donald Trump made 33 false claims about the coronavirus crisis in the first two weeks of March - CNNPolitics | Mar 23 02:34 | |
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| tedbox | DaemonFC[m]: the orange virus | Mar 23 04:44 |
| tedbox | In 2008 if you lost your job as the economy collapsed you could at least look for, pursue, seek interviews for another. In 2020 that's not the case as many people cannot even leave the house. The rich won't save us. The super-rich are already having a holiday in some distant islands of theirs. | Mar 23 04:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically. | Mar 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is the "we are so fucked" recession. | Mar 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On top of a nuclear furnace for old people that many of them are unwilling to see. | Mar 23 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We've been applying for jobs at places that are still open for Mandy, but I'm not expecting anything. | Mar 23 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fucking Walmart is still putting old and disabled people standing near the doors to check receipts. | Mar 23 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | tedbox: If this virus keeps going on trajectory, by next Sunday about 4,000 Americans could die that day alone. | Mar 23 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Sunday after that it could be 10,000 or more. | Mar 23 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then it just keeps going up and up for months. | Mar 23 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're still downplaying how bad this is. | Mar 23 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thousands or tens of thousands every day for months. | Mar 23 04:50 |
| tedbox | yes | Mar 23 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those National Guard people aren't being activated to help with food and stuff. They're getting ready to dispose of bodies. | Mar 23 04:51 |
| *tedbox is now known as roy | Mar 23 04:51 | |
| *roy is now known as roy_on_ted | Mar 23 04:51 | |
| roy_on_ted | katrina again | Mar 23 04:51 |
| roy_on_ted | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/12923361#75551970b917013646ab7a163e59d8f4 | Mar 23 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #katrina returns https://www.foxnews.com/us/would-be-looter-in-hurricane-michael-ravaged-florida-shot-killed-after-trying-to-steal-law-enforcement-vehicle-report http://spacecoastdaily.com/2018/10/florida-looter-shot-killed-while-trying-to-steal-law-enforcement-vehicle-after-hurricane-michael/ | Mar 23 04:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.foxnews.com | Would-be looter in Hurricane Michael-ravaged Florida shot, killed after trying to steal law enforcement vehicle: report | Fox News | Mar 23 04:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> spacecoastdaily.com | Florida Looter Shot, Killed While Trying To Steal Law Enforcement Vehicle After Hurricane Michael | | Mar 23 04:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | roy_on_ted I told my mom take her pension now and get out of the place she works. | Mar 23 04:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't leave the house for a few months if she can possibly avoid it. | Mar 23 04:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But she thinks she knows better and that Trump is telling her the truth. | Mar 23 04:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So she says "I'm not going to leave half my pension!". | Mar 23 04:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "If you don't you could leave the entire thing and die.". | Mar 23 04:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Congress is being just as stupid as anyone else who could get out of there and won't. | Mar 23 04:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And lots of them will die too. | Mar 23 04:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably starting with one of the five Senators who is in quarantine now. | Mar 23 04:57 |
| roy_on_ted | Rand Paui is positive | Mar 23 04:57 |
| roy_on_ted | he'd be perfect for anti-vaxx, too | Mar 23 04:57 |
| roy_on_ted | If Pence and wife are positive, they may need lots of "conversion therapy" | Mar 23 04:58 |
| roy_on_ted | And then head of the crisis will "stay positive" | Mar 23 04:58 |
| roy_on_ted | (literally) | Mar 23 04:58 |
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| kingoffrance | lol roy_on_ted | Mar 23 05:01 |
| roy_on_ted | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries | Mar 23 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 338,747 Cases and 14,688 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer | Mar 23 05:02 | |
| roy_on_ted | wow, 45 more deaths since I last checked | Mar 23 05:02 |
| roy_on_ted | I think their hospital are now reaching capacity | Mar 23 05:02 |
| roy_on_ted | when they're above capacity, soon, it'll be like Spain and Italy | Mar 23 05:02 |
| roy_on_ted | people without beds or without ventilators to help them breathe when their lungs fight t he parasite | Mar 23 05:03 |
| roy_on_ted | and this is when it's a massacre | Mar 23 05:03 |
| roy_on_ted | those plastic coffins of FEMA better be 'on tap' | Mar 23 05:03 |
| roy_on_ted | I read yesterday that US prisons start having covid19 spread in them | Mar 23 05:03 |
| roy_on_ted | probably brought in by the guards | Mar 23 05:03 |
| roy_on_ted | who would be as reckless as they care about the prisoners | Mar 23 05:04 |
| roy_on_ted | https://www.nextplatform.com/2020/03/18/ceph-gets-fit-and-finish-for-enterprise-storage/ | Mar 23 05:07 |
| roy_on_ted | oops | Mar 23 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | Ceph Gets Fit And Finish For Enterprise Storage | Mar 23 05:07 | |
| roy_on_ted | “The flu kills less than 1% of infected people who are over age 65. By comparison, in China, COVID-19 killed 8% of those infected who were 70-79 and almost 15% of those infected who were age 80 or older. That’s a staggering difference.” https://www.propublica.org/article/this-coronavirus-is-unlike-anything-in-our-lifetime-and-we-have-to-stop-comparing-it-to-the-flu | Mar 23 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | This Coronavirus Is Unlike Anything in Our Lifetime, and We Have to Stop Comparing It to the Flu — ProPublica | Mar 23 05:07 | |
| roy_on_ted | The latter is what I meant to paste | Mar 23 05:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | roy_on_ted: It's a lot worse here than it looks. | Mar 23 05:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They won't test a lot of people so they just turn them away and say maybe it's the flu. | Mar 23 05:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't find out it's COVID-19 until they're dead. | Mar 23 05:13 |
| roy_on_ted | no | Mar 23 05:13 |
| roy_on_ted | they don't test the dead, either | Mar 23 05:13 |
| roy_on_ted | so they don't count | Mar 23 05:13 |
| roy_on_ted | with limited kits it's better to test those still alive | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | esp. where there's scarcity | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | days ago in Duterte-land they had only tested 1200 people | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | 300+ tested positive | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | that's a quarter | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | so you can only imagine how many people out there already have it 'incubating' in them | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | to show up in 15 days in more than mild symptoms | Mar 23 05:14 |
| roy_on_ted | IIRC, the US would also let industry charge for these tests | Mar 23 05:15 |
| roy_on_ted | some cannot afford it | Mar 23 05:15 |
| roy_on_ted | and even if they have it, they'd rather not know/find out | Mar 23 05:15 |
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| roy_on_ted | " https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1241730264247697408 | Mar 23 05:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: When workers are laid off, they lose their employer-provided health insurance. That is why we need a universal, si… https://t.co/EXNuj5QIET | Mar 23 05:19 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: When workers are laid off, they lose their employer-provided health insurance. That is why we need a universal, si… https://t.co/EXNuj5QIET | Mar 23 05:19 | |
| roy_on_ted | https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1241479517035782145 | Mar 23 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: $34,927.43. That is the medical bill an uninsured patient got for being tested and treated for the coronavirus. T… https://t.co/XEZEJzk8VV | Mar 23 05:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SenSanders: $34,927.43. That is the medical bill an uninsured patient got for being tested and treated for the coronavirus. T… https://t.co/XEZEJzk8VV | Mar 23 05:20 | |
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| kingoffrance | roy_on_ted, well, they say prisons are letting ppl out to avoid spread, i dunno if that is good or bad, just how many have jobs lined up/etc. ? (im not "judging" anyone, just saying another variable to current things) | Mar 23 05:26 |
| kingoffrance | will that mean more unemployed or not, i dunno | Mar 23 05:26 |
| roy_on_ted | maybe it's about time | Mar 23 05:33 |
| roy_on_ted | the economy as it is made not much sense for a while | Mar 23 05:33 |
| roy_on_ted | with many things automated working hours needed to be shortened | Mar 23 05:33 |
| roy_on_ted | and people left to do "their thing" | Mar 23 05:33 |
| roy_on_ted | but the oligarchy wants everyone working hard for them and buying lots of crap | Mar 23 05:33 |
| roy_on_ted | the circulation makes them richer and thus more politically powerful | Mar 23 05:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | roy_on_ted: I hear that Duterte cut off HIV meds to people. | Mar 23 05:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | roy_on_ted: I figure that this will definitely kill enough old people that "nursing" is not in short supply for a while. | Mar 23 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because mot of the shortage was a growing elderly population that is now starting to be carpet bombed by this virus. | Mar 23 05:39 |
| roy_on_ted | he is among them | Mar 23 05:47 |
| roy_on_ted | he has health issues | Mar 23 05:47 |
| roy_on_ted | and he takes many drugs | Mar 23 05:47 |
| oiaohm | roy_on_ted: really Australian test numbers on covid-19 is under 2 percent of those presenting symtoms that could be covid-19 in fact have it in Australia. | Mar 23 05:52 |
| oiaohm | So a 1/4 positive would be way higher than expected. | Mar 23 05:53 |
| schestowitz__ | > Maybe we need a section about disinformation? There's Iran's and | Mar 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > China's statements. | Mar 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | I use the astroturfing section for media lies and disinfo | Mar 23 05:54 |
| schestowitz__ | > There is also the World Health Organization's indirect spread of | Mar 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > disinformation. The WHO is promoting use of social control media and | Mar 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > lending credibility to the platforms which *are* seen by the general | Mar 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > population as publishers with editorial control. Then there is the | Mar 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > "algorithmic" ranking of messages by content. Thus their bad choice | Mar 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz__ | > helps the spread of disinformation. | Mar 23 05:55 |
| schestowitz__ | I am guilty of still sending copies of my posts there :/ | Mar 23 05:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: It's mostly going off like an atomic bomb on Trump's base. | Mar 23 06:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | April and May will be horrible, but they won't be joining us to fuck up the country politically again. | Mar 23 06:04 |
| oiaohm | roy_on_ted: https://www.health.gov.au/news/australian-health-protection-principal-committee-ahppc-coronavirus-covid-19-statement-on-22-march-2020 Its not a quater of USA test postive. | Mar 23 06:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.health.gov.au | Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) coronavirus (COVID-19) statement on 22 March 2020 | Australian Government Department of Health | Mar 23 06:09 | |
| oiaohm | roy_on_ted: USA has been running 8.3% percent postive with less people tested than Australia. | Mar 23 06:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm guessing 4 million dead by April 31. | Mar 23 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Every 3 days the death toll seems to double. | Mar 23 06:44 |
| oiaohm | China death toll has basically stopped. | Mar 23 06:48 |
| oiaohm | Australia death toll at the first 1000 is lower than most other countries when they hit the first 1000. | Mar 23 06:49 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: by the way there are not 31 days in April. | Mar 23 06:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Errr, 30 I meant. | Mar 23 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | China is lying. | Mar 23 06:58 |
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| roy_on_ted | THe government is usually lying | Mar 23 08:26 |
| roy_on_ted | and silencing competing stories where possible | Mar 23 08:27 |
| roy_on_ted | or scaring proactively those who might challenge the official numbers | Mar 23 08:27 |
| XRevan86 | Well, #socialdistancing also discourages suicide bombers | Mar 23 09:05 |
| XRevan86 | Wait, what? %) Why? %) | Mar 23 09:05 |
| XRevan86 | * > | Mar 23 09:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't think anyone who wants to kill oneself and others would be discouraged by a prospect of being infected and infecting others %). | Mar 23 09:07 |
| roy_on_ted | no | Mar 23 09:08 |
| roy_on_ted | I mean no large crowds | Mar 23 09:08 |
| roy_on_ted | or public transport | Mar 23 09:08 |
| roy_on_ted | gatherings | Mar 23 09:08 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, right, that makes sense… | Mar 23 09:09 |
| roy_on_ted | notice the context of the remark, when she was in Manchester there was a bombing against her audience | Mar 23 09:09 |
| roy_on_ted | even mass stabbing would be harder | Mar 23 09:09 |
| roy_on_ted | as you can, at best, walk into homes in turn or target food shoppers, where there are already many security personnel | Mar 23 09:09 |
| oiaohm | roy_on_ted: if you use Port Arthur, Tasmania population density as a min for a mass shooting there are still a lot of areas even with social distancing that are well above that density its simple to forget that the killing there was not a high density area. | Mar 23 09:42 |
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| MinceR | https://www.hrw.org/news/2020/03/23/hungarys-orban-uses-pandemic-seize-unlimited-power | Mar 23 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hrw.org | Hungary’s Orban Uses Pandemic to Seize Unlimited Power | Human Rights Watch | Mar 23 14:41 | |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: let's move to Mexico | Mar 23 14:48 |
| MinceR | what is it like? | Mar 23 14:49 |
| CrystalMath | immensely beautiful and wild | Mar 23 14:49 |
| CrystalMath | everywhere you look, you see ad-hoc constructed houses | Mar 23 14:50 |
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| MinceR | how much does the government leave the people alone? | Mar 23 14:50 |
| CrystalMath | i am researching that now | Mar 23 14:50 |
| CrystalMath | it really depends on the state | Mar 23 14:51 |
| CrystalMath | that's certain | Mar 23 14:51 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: in some states the government really doesn't matter as it's ruled either by the cartel, or sometimes zapatista insurgents | Mar 23 14:53 |
| CrystalMath | they have their own websites :P | Mar 23 14:53 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: i'm guessing you don't like what you heard so far about Mexico :P | Mar 23 14:57 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i think the government doesn't come for you much, but there are risks of being attacked outside the law, from 3 different sides | Mar 23 14:59 |
| MinceR | yeah, my next question would have been how much do the ruling criminal organizations (other than the state) leave the people alone | Mar 23 15:00 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: like for example, legally there is free speech, but if you say something one of the three sides doesn't like, you get shot | Mar 23 15:00 |
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| MinceR | yeah, that doesn't make mexico sound attractive | Mar 23 15:00 |
| MinceR | unless i had my own army, which i don't | Mar 23 15:00 |
| MinceR | and if i had my own army, i could just make hungary more hospitable | Mar 23 15:00 |
| CrystalMath | you can join zapatistas, or the sinaloa cartel :P | Mar 23 15:01 |
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| MinceR | i'm sure there are strings attached | Mar 23 15:01 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: but what i'm thinking is | Mar 23 15:12 |
| CrystalMath | while the government is busy fighting those two | Mar 23 15:12 |
| CrystalMath | they have very little time left to mess with ordinary citizens | Mar 23 15:13 |
| CrystalMath | you can be "invisible" there | Mar 23 15:13 |
| MinceR | it would be nice to find a spot on this cursed dirty ball of iron where things are done properly | Mar 23 15:13 |
| CrystalMath | idk, i've had enough of "proper" | Mar 23 15:13 |
| CrystalMath | democracy will always lead to fascism | Mar 23 15:13 |
| CrystalMath | i don't want a democracy, i want chaos | Mar 23 15:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 23 15:13 |
| CrystalMath | and i think Mexico has a good brand of chaos | Mar 23 15:13 |
| MinceR | mexico is at least nominally a democracy | Mar 23 15:13 |
| CrystalMath | well in the areas the federal government controls, yes :P | Mar 23 15:14 |
| CrystalMath | i have never heard of the sinaloa cartel doing a vote | Mar 23 15:14 |
| CrystalMath | the zapatistas vote, probably | Mar 23 15:14 |
| CrystalMath | and control actual territory | Mar 23 15:14 |
| CrystalMath | it's a frozen conflict | Mar 23 15:15 |
| CrystalMath | they have a state within a state, which is unrecognized but de facto controlled by EZLN | Mar 23 15:15 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: but what i mean is, last year, Mexico arrested El Chapo's son, and the cartel responded by capturing another town | Mar 23 15:15 |
| CrystalMath | then the government SURRENDERED and let the son go | Mar 23 15:15 |
| CrystalMath | see what i mean by, "no time to mess with ordinary people"? | Mar 23 15:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Mar 23 15:16 |
| MinceR | collateral damage can still easily kill the ordinary people though | Mar 23 15:17 |
| CrystalMath | yep, i believe thousands were shot | Mar 23 15:17 |
| CrystalMath | during the capture | Mar 23 15:17 |
| CrystalMath | you just need to stay away from Sinaloa, basically | Mar 23 15:17 |
| MinceR | i'm doing that :> | Mar 23 15:18 |
| CrystalMath | the surrounding states are not that great either | Mar 23 15:18 |
| CrystalMath | lots of bullet holes | Mar 23 15:18 |
| MinceR | it's easy to find where to stay away from | Mar 23 15:18 |
| MinceR | less easy to find somewhere to live that can actually sustain human life | Mar 23 15:18 |
| MinceR | (enough oxygen in the atmosphere and stuff like that) | Mar 23 15:19 |
| CrystalMath | the places where it's difficult could be more libertarian | Mar 23 15:19 |
| CrystalMath | where there is no time nor place for organization | Mar 23 15:19 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: honestly, if freedom is more important than life, then i don't see the problem in living in dangerous crime areas | Mar 23 15:22 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: maybe i'm a bit more agorist than you | Mar 23 15:24 |
| CrystalMath | i have agorist and anarcho-primitivist tendencies | Mar 23 15:24 |
| CrystalMath | which is why when i see ad-hoc built houses, i feel a happiness inside | Mar 23 15:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Mar 23 15:25 |
| MinceR | well, living in dangerous crime areas could be fine, but it needs more resources than what i have | Mar 23 15:25 |
| CrystalMath | we could go to the US | Mar 23 15:30 |
| CrystalMath | and give libertarians another vote or two | Mar 23 15:30 |
| MinceR | the US is currently severely fucked | Mar 23 15:30 |
| CrystalMath | yep | Mar 23 15:30 |
| CrystalMath | it seems bad | Mar 23 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | their constitution is being attacked from all sides | Mar 23 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | and all those crazy acts | Mar 23 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | that apply to american citizens | Mar 23 15:31 |
| MinceR | they have a two-party system and the parties are nearly identical | Mar 23 15:31 |
| MinceR | and authoritarian | Mar 23 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | makes it seem like getting US citizenship is voluntarily servitude | Mar 23 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | *voluntary | Mar 23 15:31 |
| CrystalMath | the average mexican is more free than the average US american | Mar 23 15:32 |
| CrystalMath | i would sooner pick Mexico than even Costa Rica / Panama | Mar 23 15:32 |
| CrystalMath | why? because Mexico, being bigger, has a harder time controlling everyone | Mar 23 15:33 |
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| CrystalMath | Panama may have permissive laws now, but if it wanted to become communist or fascist, it could effectively imprison all its citizens, and this has happened in the past (remember Noriega) | Mar 23 15:33 |
| MinceR | i don't know much about Noriega | Mar 23 15:33 |
| CrystalMath | a military junta in Panama | Mar 23 15:34 |
| CrystalMath | the leader of which was Manual Noriega | Mar 23 15:34 |
| CrystalMath | so yeah i think there's more freedom in countries that are big, as if they "spread thin" | Mar 23 15:34 |
| CrystalMath | for example Russia... with all its laws you would think it's quite an authoritarian dictatorship | Mar 23 15:35 |
| MinceR | and it is | Mar 23 15:35 |
| CrystalMath | but in fact there are places there so remote you never see a government official | Mar 23 15:35 |
| MinceR | yeah, as long as you keep your head down | Mar 23 15:35 |
| MinceR | if you don't, you might find some polonium in your tea | Mar 23 15:35 |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/r1xvoe.jpg | Mar 23 15:36 |
| MinceR | and if you pay your taxes, you feed putler | Mar 23 15:36 |
| CrystalMath | yeah i think the american continent is the best place to look for freedom | Mar 23 15:38 |
| CrystalMath | but canada and the US are not the places | Mar 23 15:38 |
| CrystalMath | so, central and south america | Mar 23 15:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > MinceR: i think the government doesn't come for you much, but there are risks of being attacked outside the law, from 3 different sides | Mar 23 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's putting it mildly. Mexico City is fairly lawless itself. If people with machine guns want you they'll just kidnap you right out of your car in broad daylight with the police watching them do it. | Mar 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: US has over 40k cases confirmed (Italy at 59k) | Mar 23 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops are being paid and wouldn't risk confronting these guys even if they weren't. | Mar 23 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Johns Hopkins seems to be glitching. | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | give it 2-3 days US will be number 2, number 1 (past China) next week | Mar 23 15:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where's the 40,000 thing at? | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: this is cleaner | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | and easier to navigate | Mar 23 15:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 358,803 Cases and 15,433 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer | Mar 23 15:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | updates more often, too | Mar 23 15:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: It's creepy here in Waukegan. | Mar 23 15:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | About 20-30% of the normal amount of people out. Empty buses rolling by. | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | let's see how long before Katrina 3.0 | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | 2.0 was years ago | Mar 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz__ | people will get their guns and racial/racist militias out in the street for "proection" | Mar 23 15:51 |
| schestowitz__ | Agtent Orange will side with "very fine people" | Mar 23 15:51 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe he'll even hire them to enforce martial law and give them more ammo like RPGs | Mar 23 15:51 |
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| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: that's it, i'm moving to Mexico! | Mar 23 16:01 |
| psydroid | Antarctica is the place to be! | Mar 23 16:04 |
| MinceR | 23 155004 < schestowitz__> give it 2-3 days US will be number 2, number 1 (past China) next week | Mar 23 16:05 |
| MinceR | USA number 1! | Mar 23 16:05 |
| MinceR | USA! USA! USA! USA! | Mar 23 16:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, the lying Chinese..... | Mar 23 16:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no way they have this thing figured out when literally nobody else on Earth does. | Mar 23 16:05 |
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| scientes | CrystalMath, yes, we U.S. citizens are all in a load of shit | Mar 23 16:09 |
| roy_on_ted | we're getting loads of COVID-19 data soon | Mar 23 16:09 |
| roy_on_ted | I'd be among the sysadmins | Mar 23 16:09 |
| scientes | CrystalMath, have to been to Costa Rica/Panama? | Mar 23 16:09 |
| CrystalMath | scientes: no | Mar 23 16:11 |
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| CrystalMath | scientes: they seem nice, but i don't trust them to be/remain lawless | Mar 23 16:12 |
| scientes | you shouldn't make judgement like that when you haven't been there | Mar 23 16:13 |
| scientes | they are human too | Mar 23 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17523533 | Mar 23 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Potentially tasteless joke: #trump waited months before doing something about #covid19 as that would guarantee USA (number one!) gets a head start with infection to become NUMBER ONE by month's end (# of cases) | Mar 23 16:13 | |
| CrystalMath | scientes: umm... i really didn't mean that is objectively bad | Mar 23 16:13 |
| schestowitz__ | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17523536 | Mar 23 16:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: In the US having tons of #patients with #covid19 means loads and loads of money. For particular corporations. You can making killing, both literally and metaphorically. A million patients (customers), $40,000 each = 40 billion bucks! | Mar 23 16:13 | |
| scientes | CrystalMath, also Costa Rica and Panama have VERY differen't cultures, interestingly | Mar 23 16:13 |
| CrystalMath | scientes: some people like laws | Mar 23 16:13 |
| CrystalMath | scientes: i don't | Mar 23 16:13 |
| scientes | then you should go to Panama | Mar 23 16:13 |
| scientes | Panama is pretty lawless | Mar 23 16:14 |
| CrystalMath | more so or less than Mexico? | Mar 23 16:14 |
| MinceR | 23 161308 < scientes> they are human too | Mar 23 16:14 |
| *scientes hasn't been to Mexico | Mar 23 16:14 | |
| MinceR | and therein lies the problem | Mar 23 16:14 |
| scientes | MinceR, too true | Mar 23 16:14 |
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| scientes | I went to Colòn however, and (I believe) it has problem similar to what I hear about in South Africa | Mar 23 16:17 |
| scientes | with spoiled self-entitled mobs | Mar 23 16:17 |
| scientes | https://www.poetryintranslation.com/PITBR/Georgian/HostandGuest.php | Mar 23 16:22 |
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| scientes | https://tonykline.co.uk/index.php | Mar 23 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tonykline.co.uk | A.S. Kline | Author and Translator | Mar 23 16:35 | |
| scientes | He graduated in Mathematics...He has translated into English from Latin, Ancient Greek, Classical Chinese and the European languages. | Mar 23 16:35 |
| scientes | Fuck me. | Mar 23 16:35 |
| scientes | How many languages do I know? | Mar 23 16:35 |
| scientes | His most extensive works are complete translations of Ovid's Metamorphoses and Dante's Divine Comedy | Mar 23 16:36 |
| scientes | How can one person do expert translations from multiple languages? | Mar 23 16:36 |
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| psydroid | Although I speak most of those languages too and I have copies of the Metamophones and the Divine Comedy in Latin and Italian respectively, I don't think I would be able to pull off such extensive translations | Mar 23 16:59 |
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| psydroid | Metamorphoses* lol | Mar 23 17:05 |
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| MinceR | https://twitter.com/timpritlove/status/1242014810402947072 | Mar 23 17:28 |
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| scientes | MinceR, that is funny | Mar 23 18:05 |
| scientes | psydroid, I guess I just never got this language thing | Mar 23 18:06 |
| scientes | I mean, English is a horribly painful lanuage | Mar 23 18:07 |
| scientes | with all the spelling stupidities | Mar 23 18:07 |
| scientes | I tried to do Tindr in georgia, but the girls only want to speak georgian | Mar 23 18:07 |
| psydroid | scientes, I think it's not a big thing in the US in general, as you are surrounded by people who speak English and maybe Spanish 99% of the time. I see the same thing in much of South America, you can get by speaking Spanish and/or Brazilian Portuguese for most of your working life. | Mar 23 18:08 |
| scientes | yes, that is south america | Mar 23 18:09 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Метаморфозы :) | Mar 23 18:09 |
| scientes | i was kinda blown away by all the languages | Mar 23 18:09 |
| scientes | I have a chocolate bar here (Nestlè) that has 6 languages on it | Mar 23 18:10 |
| scientes | and not English | Mar 23 18:10 |
| scientes | or German for that matter | Mar 23 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | It's a Latin word that's been loaned into many languages, the only thing particular about English is that it also loaned Latin's plural ending. | Mar 23 18:10 |
| scientes | XRevan86, yes, its a ipcularity to be learned | Mar 23 18:10 |
| scientes | sis/ses | Mar 23 18:10 |
| XRevan86 | Latin plural endings are so fun English even invented one out of thin air :) | Mar 23 18:11 |
| XRevan86 | for the word octopus | Mar 23 18:11 |
| psydroid | when I first went to Poland and barely spoke Polish, I read the Romanian descriptions because that's what I understood best | Mar 23 18:11 |
| scientes | XRevan86, but isn't that just English's inflected past? | Mar 23 18:12 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: I'm talking about "octopi" | Mar 23 18:12 |
| scientes | oh yeah | Mar 23 18:12 |
| scientes | my god the animal plurals are horrible | Mar 23 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | "octopuses" is more correct than "octopi" | Mar 23 18:13 |
| MinceR | octopodes | Mar 23 18:13 |
| scientes | yeah but what about the groups of animals | Mar 23 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Right. | Mar 23 18:13 |
| scientes | flock of geese | Mar 23 18:13 |
| MinceR | a business of weasels | Mar 23 18:13 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Polish is such a gem it's easier for me to understand verbally than as a script | Mar 23 18:13 |
| psydroid | they made that same mistake in Romance languages too | Mar 23 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | Audible Polish that is | Mar 23 18:14 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Well, in their it's at least native, I guess. | Mar 23 18:14 |
| MinceR | Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz | Mar 23 18:14 |
| psydroid | for example body is "corpus" and the the genitive singular is "corporis" and the plural nominative "corpora" | Mar 23 18:15 |
| psydroid | so this could never have become "corpi" in the plural, but that's what it is in Italian | Mar 23 18:15 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Italian didn't loan it | Mar 23 18:16 |
| psydroid | of course not | Mar 23 18:16 |
| XRevan86 | I don't know it so I can't even guess how they've got there. | Mar 23 18:16 |
| psydroid | the thing is that you have multiple declensions in Latin | Mar 23 18:18 |
| XRevan86 | Wiktionary doesn't show any for Italian. Is it inflective? | Mar 23 18:18 |
| psydroid | servus, servi (nom, gen) and corpus, corporis (nom, gen) and virus, virus | Mar 23 18:19 |
| psydroid | (nom, gen) | Mar 23 18:19 |
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| psydread | ok, switching to my tablet for now | Mar 23 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | Italian doesn't… | Mar 23 18:21 |
| XRevan86 | That explains it. | Mar 23 18:21 |
| Hail_Spacecake | late vulgar latin speakers in the italian peninsula were perfectly entitled to reanalyze CORPVS as being a 2nd declension masculine noun | Mar 23 18:21 |
| Hail_Spacecake | instead of the stem-changing 3rd declension noun it was in clasical latin | Mar 23 18:22 |
| XRevan86 | "Vedo un cane, il cane mi vede." | Mar 23 18:22 |
| psydread | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corpo | Mar 23 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | corpo - Wiktionary | Mar 23 18:22 | |
| MinceR | "Mia clementia denor esto." | Mar 23 18:23 |
| psydread | yes, most modern Romance language have lost all declensions | Mar 23 18:23 |
| scientes | uggggh, I can't even read the news cause its all FEAR FEAR FEAR FEAR these days | Mar 23 18:23 |
| scientes | annoying | Mar 23 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | Humanity, 2020: https://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/154/775/288.png | Mar 23 18:25 |
| psydread | I just switch off the news after a while | Mar 23 18:25 |
| MinceR | it would be more productive to switch off humanity | Mar 23 18:26 |
| scientes | I just got in the habit of getting news en Español. | Mar 23 18:27 |
| scientes | otherwise I don't look at the news | Mar 23 18:27 |
| scientes | but now even that is unbearable, cause the news is so montonous | Mar 23 18:27 |
| scientes | and also depressing as they all civil rights are disappearing really fast | Mar 23 18:27 |
| scientes | or I don't like that term "rights"----all ability to express one's humanity | Mar 23 18:28 |
| MinceR | This sentence is in Spanish while you're not looking | Mar 23 18:30 |
| scientes | Estè frase es en Español cuando tu no vea. | Mar 23 18:31 |
| scientes | I stalled on the Russian---I just can't convince my brain that it is worth learning | Mar 23 18:32 |
| scientes | so my brain turns off | Mar 23 18:32 |
| XRevan86 | Tia frazo estas en la Hispana dum vi ne rigardas. | Mar 23 18:33 |
| scientes | En verdad, "Hispana"? | Mar 23 18:34 |
| scientes | No es "Iberica" o similarmente? | Mar 23 18:34 |
| scientes | ahh yes, it was the province of Hispana | Mar 23 18:34 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Kio? | Mar 23 18:35 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispania#/media/File:Conquista_Hispania.svg | Mar 23 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hispania - Wikipedia | Mar 23 18:35 | |
| scientes | Barcelona | Mar 23 18:35 |
| scientes | important silver mines there | Mar 23 18:36 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Kiam vi rigardis tio estis en Esperanto, kie "la hispana" signifas "[the] Spanish [language]". | Mar 23 18:37 |
| psydroid | Hispania in Latin, therefore it became España | Mar 23 18:40 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebro#/media/File:Valle_del_Ebro.jpg | Mar 23 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ebro - Wikipedia | Mar 23 18:41 | |
| scientes | ahhhhhhhh Ebro-->Iberian | Mar 23 18:41 |
| psydroid | oh, so Russian is not that useful in Georgia? | Mar 23 18:41 |
| scientes | nah, I hear it every day | Mar 23 18:41 |
| scientes | much more common than English | Mar 23 18:42 |
| psydroid | so it should be an excellent environment to improve yours passively | Mar 23 18:43 |
| psydroid | maybe that's all that you should do | Mar 23 18:43 |
| psydroid | I know that's what I did in Poland | Mar 23 18:43 |
| psydroid | my managers and colleagues just spoke Polish all the time | Mar 23 18:44 |
| scientes | yeah I was learning when I was in the hostel | Mar 23 18:44 |
| scientes | maybe I need to go back to a hostel | Mar 23 18:44 |
| scientes | I need a more social environment | Mar 23 18:44 |
| XRevan86 | Went to see etymology for Испания (Ispania), now I know that at first Spain was referred to as "Gishpania" (no idea about whether that G would've been fricative) | Mar 23 18:44 |
| scientes | XRevan86, yeah, but the Ebro basin is only a small part of the pinsula | Mar 23 18:45 |
| scientes | "Cuenca" | Mar 23 18:45 |
| XRevan86 | I mean in Russian. "Gishpania"'s origins are known: Polish. But that doesn't explain where the contemporary word came from… | Mar 23 18:46 |
| scientes | ahh, in Russian | Mar 23 18:46 |
| scientes | I was like "Why would they let Poland name them?" | Mar 23 18:47 |
| scientes | Georgia also has an Iberia | Mar 23 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's from Greek. | Mar 23 18:47 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Iberia_(antiquity) | Mar 23 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kingdom of Iberia (antiquity) - Wikipedia | Mar 23 18:48 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, yes again greek | Mar 23 18:48 |
| scientes | known in Georgian as Kartli (which is the same name of the script) | Mar 23 18:48 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Apparently in Ancient Greek it would have a h at the start. | Mar 23 18:49 |
| XRevan86 | so Hiberia, and in modern I guess it's Iviria | Mar 23 18:49 |
| zoobab | http://blog.ffii.org/eu-software-patent-court-stopped-by-constitutional-court-patent-industry-will-try-again/ | Mar 23 19:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.ffii.org | EU Software Patent Court stopped by Constitutional Court, patent industry will try again | FFII Blog | Mar 23 19:48 | |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://coub.com/view/2azn0v | Mar 23 19:54 |
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| scientes | zoobab, because that is totally an "industry" | Mar 23 20:08 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19111454 | Mar 23 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Mar 23 22:38 | |
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