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XFaCEschestowitz: thoughts on those potential gated foundation leaks?Apr 23 00:42
XFaCEOh MinceR , you were already discussing itApr 23 00:44
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dabblerdudeHey everyone, is it true that IOBit software is malware?Apr 23 02:03
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136710 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c81ab53-273c-4705-b460-4f71e3cda5c1]Apr 23 02:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Announcing Oracle Linux Cloud Native Environment Release 1.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136712 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d6781efb-bb61-4bbb-b67e-cdd0b14494a6]Apr 23 02:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: There's now over 6,000 Linux games on Steam plus thousands more playable with Steam Play Proton http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136675#comment-24691 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0b217cd2-5872-4ca9-b16d-2a286bc2c369]Apr 23 02:39
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Release of Mesa and Mesa's DRM Library Now Has Proper FreeBSD Support Upstream http://tuxmachines.org/node/136718 [https://pleroma.site/objects/54b33fdc-6075-4832-a096-5469f1fc416f]Apr 23 03:45
schestowitz[21:09] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- stillnessinthestorm.com | BREAKING: MASSIVE HACK of Coronavirus Related Organizations: WHO, NIH, Wuhan Lab, And Gates Foundation - Stillness in the StormApr 23 03:47
schestowitzI am waiting for more credible sites to explain what's thereApr 23 03:47
schestowitz[21:28] <zoobab> — USA HACKERS (@usahackers) April 21, 2020Apr 23 03:48
schestowitzThat could be anyone, and that does not tell us (yet) what the evidence shows and whyApr 23 03:48
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schestowitzThey also make loaded statements suggesting a link to some dodgy groups of cranks online... we ought not associate with these in any wayApr 23 03:49
schestowitzzoobab: OK, much of what's said and published looks dodgy, for several reasonsApr 23 03:53
schestowitzfirst, they say they WILL leak x and yApr 23 03:53
schestowitzbut apart from that it is mostly insinuationApr 23 03:53
schestowitzthey also connect covid to pedophilia and thunbergApr 23 03:53
schestowitzas if to imply the whole "World government," or "climate change" thing is connectedApr 23 03:54
schestowitzTwitter isn't the right platform for these things anyway.... they're social control mediaApr 23 03:54
schestowitzIt would be nice to see internal comms from senior people at Scam and Melinda Foundation saying something self-incriminatingApr 23 03:54
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schestowitzwith source material to prove they said itApr 23 03:55
schestowitzit seems like lots of insinuations at the moment, the above links say they got cracked, but they don't actually present anything in a way that shows a smoking gun... still looking...Apr 23 03:55
schestowitzthis site is a bit -- just a bit -- less dodgyApr 23 03:58
schestowitzhttps://www.zerohedge.com/health/email-addresses-and-passwords-who-nih-wuhan-lab-and-gates-foundation-dumped-4chanApr 23 03:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Email Addresses And Passwords From WHO, NIH, Wuhan Lab, And Gates Foundation Dumped On 4chan | Zero HedgeApr 23 03:58
schestowitzI have seen nothing of >substance< coming out of this https://www.zerohedge.com/health/email-addresses-and-passwords-who-nih-wuhan-lab-and-gates-foundation-dumped-4chanApr 23 04:03
schestowitzseems like a waste of time, so far...Apr 23 04:03
schestowitzunless they release somethingApr 23 04:04
schestowitzand that something is both verifiable and damningApr 23 04:04
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schestowitzat the moment it's nothing but "HAHA! Gates hacked. LOLs"Apr 23 04:04
schestowitzand then a bunch if conspiracy BS thrown around, based on nothing which wasn't known already, like Gates influence inside WHOApr 23 04:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136719 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1cfaee41-a8cf-4199-8729-ac3459e90ab7]Apr 23 04:11
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schestowitzhmmm....Apr 23 04:17
schestowitzCan you folks do me a favour?Apr 23 04:17
schestowitzI think my access to the site's hypervisot and VMs has high packet lossApr 23 04:17
schestowitznot sure what's to blame, DC, my ISP... something else?Apr 23 04:18
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAApr 23 04:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsApr 23 04:18
schestowitzCan everyone load up this page OK?Apr 23 04:18
schestowitzAnd without delays?Apr 23 04:18
schestowitzAt my end I get oddnessApr 23 04:18
schestowitzand it seems not limited to just techrightsApr 23 04:18
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insmodppaschestowitz: Works fine on my end, no problems whatsoever.Apr 23 04:19
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schestowitzprobably switching at my isp or somewhere betweenApr 23 04:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #linux Kernel: 5.7, Concurrency, VirtIO-FS and Inadvertent Reboot http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136721 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fb32c13d-bd8c-4ccc-81e2-f781ff74fcb1]Apr 23 04:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows/Screencasts: FLOSS Weekly, Linux Headlines and Linux Lite 5.0 RC1 Run Through http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136722 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb0316eb-350a-4d8f-9240-465cc8c730b4]Apr 23 04:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation and FSF Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136723 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d38f93b-0c13-459e-b42d-85c76b40e458]Apr 23 04:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Just added: The Linux Link Tech Show Episode 854 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136722#comment-24694 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ba78e860-05c3-4fdd-a4dd-1f98ef428862]Apr 23 04:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Works fine for me.Apr 23 04:42
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi 3.0 is out with a new built-in ad blocker.Apr 23 04:42
DaemonFC[m]Built on Chromiums 81.Apr 23 04:43
DaemonFC[m]I probably would use Chromium except Fedora doesn't take good care of it.Apr 23 04:44
DaemonFC[m]At one point 137 security vulnerabilities had backed up since their last version bump.Apr 23 04:45
DaemonFC[m]That's just not okay.Apr 23 04:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Final Remarks and Touches Ahead of Ubuntu 20.04 Release (Today) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136724 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1a1cd8c4-f9b1-4eb4-974b-bae76a9f407f]Apr 23 04:45
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schestowitzhmmm... with this packeting issue it'll be hard to compose articlesApr 23 05:26
schestowitzsometimes I cannot reach the server at allApr 23 05:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 23/4/2020: Mesa 20.0.5, Ubuntu 20.04 Out Shortly http://techrights.org/2020/04/22/mesa-20-0-5/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/9ab30674-551e-4022-8c48-750aba2218a9]Apr 23 05:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 7 New Features in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS [Video] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136727 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0d55044e-b801-48ee-9ec8-25d6e795a5e5]Apr 23 06:10
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scientes> [Boeing] said it was putting about 27,000 people back to work this week building passenger jets at its Seattle-area plants,Apr 23 08:27
scienteswhile basically all air travel is shut downApr 23 08:27
scientesyeah, nice boondoggle you got going there...Apr 23 08:28
schestowitzshows that the concept of "job creators" is meaninglessApr 23 09:21
schestowitzsometimes tax-funded apparatus with an oligarch at the top pocketing taxpayers' moneyApr 23 09:22
schestowitzto 'employ' people doing a bunch of unnecessary nonsenseApr 23 09:22
schestowitznothing of essenceApr 23 09:22
schestowitz"what do you do for a living"?Apr 23 09:22
schestowitz"I'm a telemarketer"Apr 23 09:22
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Lite 5.0 RC1 Is Now Available for Download with Massive Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136685#comment-24695 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e189532f-df59-4806-adc6-f046be70e0c4]Apr 23 11:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The 20 Best Android File Transfer Apps to Share Files Offline http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136728 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8fa6d01c-9fc0-4c86-b063-370dea1363c6]Apr 23 11:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 15 ways to use the SCP command to transfer data in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136729 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb7ce59a-2561-439f-b3f2-c3015d4dc4ab]Apr 23 11:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 30% Of Ubuntu Linux Users Want Unity Back; 80% Want “Better” GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136711#comment-24696 [https://pleroma.site/objects/02d68936-37a0-4772-a344-08516b473197]Apr 23 11:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Lite 5.0: Everything You Need To Know About The Upcoming Version http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136685#comment-24697 [https://pleroma.site/objects/91fc3939-a268-4623-b790-09c88b085373]Apr 23 11:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4 open source chat applications you should use right now http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136730 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89f71824-fc95-40c4-9f56-1994eab7f085]Apr 23 11:27
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/al3i8n.jpgApr 23 11:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Should you outsource your next open source project? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136731 [https://pleroma.site/objects/631cda5b-4c13-4ff3-95f7-31a53788c419]Apr 23 11:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 31 Best Free Linux Backup Software (Updated 2020) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/136732 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51b41fb7-ecbb-4b38-9036-fb99d2371767]Apr 23 11:30
schestowitzlolApr 23 11:32
schestowitznice oneApr 23 11:32
schestowitzanother charlatan like billy goat gatesApr 23 11:33
schestowitzpretending to be a genius... based on little of substance... just subservient mediaApr 23 11:33
scientesschestowitz, better than a credit card debt collectorApr 23 11:36
scienteshttps://web.archive.org/web/20200414185426/https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52278825Apr 23 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Coronavirus: One in five deaths now linked to virus - BBC NewsApr 23 11:37
scientesfear porn^Apr 23 11:37
scientesthose flash-built hospitals are completely empty https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/23/the-seven-step-path-from-pandemic-to-totalitarianism/Apr 23 11:39
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scienteshttps://blogs.imf.org/2019/02/05/cashing-in-how-to-make-negative-interest-rates-work/Apr 23 11:41
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scientesmore like "Society for asking stupid questions."Apr 23 11:41
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scienteslike "Are negative interest rates a good thing?"Apr 23 11:41
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scienteshttps://pics.me.me/service-for-asking-stupid-questions-excuse-me-is-this-the-11337874.pngApr 23 11:44
scienteswut, its changedApr 23 11:44
scienteshttp://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Society.jpgApr 23 11:44
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/iswMkhj.jpgApr 23 11:47
schestowitzscientes: I deleted off-gaurdianApr 23 11:58
schestowitzbecause they were too often off courseApr 23 11:58
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scientesschestowitz, hmmmmm, they don't seem deleted for meApr 23 12:00
schestowitzto me it isApr 23 12:00
schestowitzI disregard themApr 23 12:00
schestowitzfor a while I read themApr 23 12:00
schestowitzand then it was full of BSApr 23 12:00
schestowitzthey go for opposite of mainstream narrative -- something even opposite of true storiesApr 23 12:00
schestowitzI'd be able to give some examples, but I forgot most of them by now... it was a year agoApr 23 12:01
schestowitzalso, re the aboveApr 23 12:01
schestowitzif health ministries in like 200 nations treat it as they do thenApr 23 12:02
schestowitz1) either it's a real riskApr 23 12:02
schestowitzor 2) they're all 'in cahoots'Apr 23 12:02
ICONOCLASTRADIOHOW MUCH LONGER ON THAT RICK JONES POLICE REPORTApr 23 12:02
schestowitzalso, bear in mind we went into lock-down, so the impact and stress of hospitals if MILLIONS contracted the virus will never be knownApr 23 12:02
schestowitzhi ICONOCLASTRADIOApr 23 12:03
schestowitzthey postponeApr 23 12:03
ICONOCLASTRADIOHIApr 23 12:03
schestowitzand the virus I suppose gives them more excuses to give, even seemingly legit onesApr 23 12:03
ICONOCLASTRADIOIT'S GOING ON YEARS NOW. Apr 23 12:03
schestowitz(not to say that's the cause of the virus... just that it can be exploited in a timely fashion)Apr 23 12:03
schestowitzICONOCLASTRADIO: yes, but...Apr 23 12:03
schestowitzThe Epstein stories were the triggerApr 23 12:03
schestowitzin 2015 I dismissed that as likely a "rotten apple" in the mansionApr 23 12:04
ICONOCLASTRADIOTHERE IS NO MORE EXCUSE. DO YOU KNOW OF ANYONE ELSE THAT IS REQUESTING THE POLICE REPORT?Apr 23 12:04
schestowitzbut now we know just how massive the police report isApr 23 12:04
scientes<schestowitz> or 2) they're all 'in cahoots'Apr 23 12:04
scientesbut they areApr 23 12:04
schestowitzI know of two FOIA requestsApr 23 12:04
MinceRCAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOLApr 23 12:04
schestowitzby all means if you're a US citizen, submit anotherApr 23 12:04
schestowitzsubmit lots of them, to the point SPD feels like it's a PR/image crisisApr 23 12:05
schestowitzscientes: they're notApr 23 12:05
schestowitzWHO does not control themApr 23 12:05
schestowitzit's more advisory than anythingApr 23 12:05
schestowitzIceland isn't in EUApr 23 12:05
schestowitzand yet it's testing loads of people and tackling the thingApr 23 12:05
MinceRit's in the EEA and the EFTA though :(Apr 23 12:05
schestowitzthe only other option is to let is roam freely, get to everything, then calculate what percent of people will perish and how many you have ICU beds forApr 23 12:06
scientesschestowitz, you are a crazy manApr 23 12:07
scientesyou have swollowed the bullshit hook line and sinkerApr 23 12:07
schestowitzhahaApr 23 12:08
schestowitzgood lickApr 23 12:08
schestowitz*luckApr 23 12:08
schestowitzdon't lick the railsApr 23 12:08
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/god-modeApr 23 12:17
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scientesMinceR, heheheheheApr 23 12:18
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MinceR> There is a concerted effort by all levels of government and public health to very rapidly ramp up testing for viral RNAApr 23 12:39
MinceRwell, that's not happening in hungary :>Apr 23 12:39
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19102272Apr 23 12:47
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scienteshttps://www.rferl.org/a/rotten-potatoes-replace-school-lunches-for-some-russian-kids/30569853.htmlApr 23 12:48
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scientesXRevan86, ^^the school are stealing the government money for school lunchesApr 23 12:51
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scienteshttps://gdb.rferl.org/903DE408-62AB-4F4C-A219-FC64ED9E1A7B_w2046_s.jpgApr 23 13:06
scientes(cat)Apr 23 13:06
MinceR:3Apr 23 13:06
scienteswow https://gdb.rferl.org/56AC3CB1-07E4-4AD9-8623-EDCA6EC466F2_w2046_s.jpgApr 23 13:08
scientesDubaiApr 23 13:08
MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/08/12/81caebc310e06768.jpgApr 23 13:11
XRevan86scientes: "the school are stealing the government money for school lunches" – that's assuming much.Apr 23 13:15
scientesXRevan86, yes, but did they not get the money that was alloted?Apr 23 13:16
scientesso where is the money, because those lunches are obviously not worth that muchApr 23 13:16
MinceRmaybe the government stole it :>Apr 23 13:16
scientesMinceR, that's what this guy was saying https://www.rferl.org/a/opera-singer-cheldiyev-arrested-for-initiating-anti-government-rallies-in-russia-s-north-ossetia/30567646.htmlApr 23 13:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | Opera Singer Arrested For Initiating Anti-Government Rallies In Russia’s North OssetiaApr 23 13:17
XRevan86scientes: That I don't know. But let's make a thought experiment: what would happen if the pupils complain on the school to the ministry? Would they even care?Apr 23 13:17
scientesXRevan86, exactly. It is a matter of "if they are not in a position to say anything, but why not pocked the money."Apr 23 13:18
scienteswhile when it actually is a school lunch, then the pupils are in a position to complainApr 23 13:18
scientes(depending)Apr 23 13:19
scienteswhen I was in school it was the same food for like 8 years straightApr 23 13:19
scientesrotating every 2 weeksApr 23 13:19
XRevan86scientes: My point is that if they whole chain doesn't care, why should I care where exactly in it the money got lost?Apr 23 13:19
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scienteswell, the solution would be to transfer the money directly to the kidsApr 23 13:19
scientesand let them buy the foodApr 23 13:20
scientesthey already pay parents who homeschoolApr 23 13:20
MinceRor to not take money away from people in the first placeApr 23 13:20
XRevan86scientes: That's reasonable, yes.Apr 23 13:20
scientesMinceR, well, yeah, but as the IMF says ""Countries will need to ensure that policies taken in response to the crisis are not *perceived* as permanent and become entrenched and generate distortions—especially regarding targeted assistance to certain sectors. "Apr 23 13:22
scientesnot the word "perceived"Apr 23 13:22
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scientesand the US State Dept. is telling me I need to take the next flight back to the US or be prepared to be abroad "indefinitely"Apr 23 13:23
MinceRcleverApr 23 13:23
MinceRagain, orban doesn't careApr 23 13:24
MinceRevery change they've made is indefinite (i.e. permanent)Apr 23 13:24
MinceRof course none of this would really matter if humans didn't crave oppressionApr 23 13:24
MinceRwe'd just execute a revolution, kill these authoritarian assholes and carry on with our livesApr 23 13:25
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MinceRbut instead humanity pulls the boot closer onto its collective faceApr 23 13:25
MinceRand there might be no escape for the few sane, civilized people stuck in this hellApr 23 13:25
scientesthat reminds me that I never watched Das BootApr 23 13:28
MinceR:>Apr 23 13:28
scientesMinceR, and then tries to get out of the boot through suicideApr 23 13:31
scientes(or suicidal war)Apr 23 13:31
MinceRor suicidal pollutionApr 23 13:31
scientesthat tooApr 23 13:31
scientesthat's what the Davos guys are doingApr 23 13:32
scientestheir solution to water pollution is to manufacture tons of little plastic bottlesApr 23 13:32
MinceREXTERMINATE!Apr 23 13:32
MinceRno, wait, that's DavrosApr 23 13:32
scientesin one of the few places with good enough water to manufacture said water bottlesApr 23 13:32
scientes(I'm not talking about the water in the bottles but the bottles themselves)Apr 23 13:32
scientesthe solution to too much trash is also to manufactures tons of plastic garbage bagsApr 23 13:33
scienteshttps://www.amazon.com/Biodegradable-Garbage-Bags/s?k=Biodegradable+Garbage+BagsApr 23 13:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com : Biodegradable Garbage BagsApr 23 13:33
scientesthe solution to every problem is more plasticApr 23 13:34
MinceRno, often the solution is more oppression or more humansApr 23 13:34
scienteswith plastic toysApr 23 13:34
scienteshttps://www.amazon.com/s?k=toy+prisonApr 23 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com : toy prisonApr 23 13:36
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scientesand without one of these you can get a fine for illegal composting https://www.amazon.com/Exaco-AeroQuick-AQ187-Austrian-Compost/dp/B000VDP8N0/Apr 23 13:37
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scienteshttps://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1GXRIK8LR24DI/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hzaApr 23 13:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon.com: Customer Questions & AnswersApr 23 13:38
scientesOh, the sense of humor on AmazonApr 23 13:38
MinceRu got a loicence for composting m8?Apr 23 13:39
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19102239Apr 23 13:42
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schestowitztwo-button binary choiceApr 23 13:48
scientesschestowitz, will this computer program stop?Apr 23 13:54
scientes1) yes, 2) noApr 23 13:54
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MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/22/f68699514aaa13ae.mp4Apr 23 14:13
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MinceRhttps://aphyr.com/posts/341-hexing-the-technical-interviewApr 23 14:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-aphyr.com | Hexing the technical interviewApr 23 14:43
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XRevan86https://znak.com/2020-04-21/glavnyy_hram_vooruzhennyh_sil_rf_ukrasili_vitrazhami_s_serpom_i_molotom noiceApr 23 15:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.znak.com | Главный храм Вооруженных сил РФ украсили витражами с серпом и молотомApr 23 15:02
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XRevan86In the main church of the armed forces that is finishing construction under Moscow there is Hammer and Sickle on stained glass %).Apr 23 15:05
MinceRthe church of stalinApr 23 15:06
MinceRhttps://www.themoscowtimes.com/2018/01/15/putin-compares-communism-christianity-a60181Apr 23 15:07
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XRevan86MinceR: Christian communism? In my Putin? It's more likely than you think.Apr 23 15:09
MinceR:>Apr 23 15:10
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MinceR(cat) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/27/cab6ea43777f8706.mp4Apr 23 15:39
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scientesXRevan86, it isn't crazy because communism never means anyways, and whenever you try to define it people go "that wasn't communism"Apr 23 15:45
scientes*anythingApr 23 15:45
XRevan86scientes: Try giving examples of capitalism to an anarcho-capitalistApr 23 15:46
scientesmaybe some day people will start saying "that wasn't capitalism"Apr 23 15:46
XRevan86"that wasn't capitalism" will be the answer :PApr 23 15:46
XRevan86scientes: They literally already do.Apr 23 15:46
scientesreally. I haven't met such peopleApr 23 15:46
XRevan86scientes: You just need the right crowd :)Apr 23 15:46
scientesI raelly like Henry George, and that is capitalismApr 23 15:47
XRevan86libertarians, ancaps, that sort of thingApr 23 15:47
MinceRpeople won't say anything because they will be extinctApr 23 15:47
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scientesthe Chinese actually implement Adam Smith, while I meet German economics majors that have notApr 23 15:47
XRevan86To them every contemporary capitalism is tainted by state regulation.Apr 23 15:47
MinceRand people already don't agree on what communism, socialism or capitalism meanApr 23 15:47
scientesXRevan86, that's why you need Henry GeorgeApr 23 15:48
MinceRi thought Adam Smith's parents implemented Adam SmithApr 23 15:48
scientesMinceR, hehApr 23 15:48
scientesmore like "used their implements" amirite?Apr 23 15:48
MinceR:>Apr 23 15:48
MinceRalso, the alleged "anarcho-capitalists" i know are not anarchists, they're authoritariansApr 23 15:48
scientesMinceR, true thatApr 23 15:49
MinceRthey support neofascists and prefer monarchy to democracyApr 23 15:49
XRevan86MinceR: They are a curious bunch definitely.Apr 23 15:49
MinceRthere's not enough support for anything that would be actually sane, civilized or free so such ideas don't even get to have namesApr 23 15:49
XRevan86Anyway, "communism" does mean something, but comparing something real to it is complicated, as nothing's ever perfect.Apr 23 15:51
MinceRit is difficult to compare something real to something that does not existApr 23 15:51
MinceRit is even more difficult to compare something real to something that is not even defined consistently :>Apr 23 15:51
XRevan86MinceR: True that.Apr 23 15:51
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XRevan86One can talk about states that try to follow the communist school of thought, but there is a problem here too: there is more than one.Apr 23 15:52
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MinceRand you can go through school without learning muchApr 23 15:52
scientesXRevan86, actually, you can just read Das CapitalApr 23 15:56
MinceRif you can endure it for longApr 23 15:57
XRevan86scientes: And make my own conclusionsApr 23 15:57
MinceRmost of it is just a recapitulation of marx' failed Labor Theory of Value over and over and over ad nauseam, in different wordsApr 23 15:57
MinceRit's atrociously tediousApr 23 15:57
MinceRand easily disprovenApr 23 15:57
MinceRthe moment a store owner discounts the prices of some wares they couldn't sell so they could get the now useless stock out of their storage space, the LTV is disprovenApr 23 15:58
scienteswell, I am not a MarxistApr 23 16:09
scientesI am a GeorgistApr 23 16:09
schestowitzwhat is that?Apr 23 16:15
schestowitzHenry George?Apr 23 16:15
scientesyesApr 23 16:18
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sebsebsebMinceR: AppleApr 23 17:30
MinceRsebsebseb: IBMApr 23 17:31
scientesCarrotApr 23 17:32
MinceRSugar cubeApr 23 17:33
scientesXRevan86, are there any chat apps that actually have some privacy?Apr 23 17:47
scientesand actually provide end-to-end securityApr 23 17:47
XRevan86scientes: ConversationsApr 23 17:47
scientescause there are lots of apps that PRETEND to provide end-to-end encryptionApr 23 17:47
scientesbut it is a total lieApr 23 17:47
sebsebsebMinceR: Ubuntu 20.04 lock down release dayApr 23 17:47
XRevan86scientes: Wire has E2EEApr 23 17:47
scientesyou mean the XMPP client that costs money?Apr 23 17:48
MinceRsebsebseb: who caresApr 23 17:48
XRevan86scientes: It's FOSS.Apr 23 17:48
sebsebsebMinceR: I do a bit, but not that muchApr 23 17:48
XRevan86scientes: You can try its fork Pix-Art, its release on the Google Play Store doesn't have a price tag.Apr 23 17:49
scientesugggh I'm so tired of AndroidApr 23 17:49
MinceRi don't often need a system that boots into an emergency boot prompt on a hidden virtual console right out of the box, but if i do, an older version of ubuntu does it just as wellApr 23 17:49
sebsebsebscientes: so am I :DApr 23 17:49
scientesand tired of GoogleApr 23 17:49
sebsebsebscientes: why for youApr 23 17:49
scientesEVERY google product is monitoring for mention of coronavirusApr 23 17:49
scientesto control the messageApr 23 17:49
MinceRurl?Apr 23 17:50
XRevan86scientes: Conversations only requires payment if you get it from Play Store or that Amazon thingy.Apr 23 17:50
sebsebsebyep MinceR has  carnovirusApr 23 17:50
scientesI have a corona of thornsApr 23 17:50
scientesand a Corona BeerApr 23 17:50
*MinceR eats sebsebseb Apr 23 17:50
MinceRscientes: but no Toyota Corona?Apr 23 17:50
scientesthere is a firefox add-on that does s/coronavirus/corona beer/Apr 23 17:50
MinceR:)Apr 23 17:50
MinceRis there an extension that detects when someone meant a particular strain of CoV when they talk about CoV in general? :>Apr 23 17:51
scientesXRevan86, but serious, the real way to know the other side hears you is you just call themApr 23 17:51
scientesinstead of messagingApr 23 17:51
scientesthat is not privacy howeverApr 23 17:51
XRevan86scientes: There is an XMPP receipts XEP.Apr 23 17:51
XRevan86which means that you can be sure that the message was received at least %)Apr 23 17:52
scientesbut what about ZRTP/SIP?Apr 23 17:52
XRevan86scientes: Ugh, I know only of LinphoneApr 23 17:52
XRevan86Which looks pretty fine, but on my device it just eats all the RAM and crashes.Apr 23 17:52
XRevan86scientes: I just settle for Jitsi Meet links sent through for XMPP or other channels.Apr 23 17:53
XRevan86s/for //Apr 23 17:53
scientesyeah jitsi is where it is atApr 23 17:53
scientesJitsi is pretty bad assApr 23 17:53
scientesalso, in many countries Facebook is corrupt with the stateApr 23 17:54
scientesso you can only use WhatsApp to contact most peopleApr 23 17:54
XRevan86That's pretty disgusting.Apr 23 17:54
scientesbecause they jack up the price of data like crazy to keep out the poorApr 23 17:54
scientesCosta Rica, Panama, Colombia, PeruApr 23 17:55
scientesall the sameApr 23 17:55
scientesBolivia and Georgia very good cell phone serviceApr 23 17:55
scientesand cheapApr 23 17:55
scientesand in Bolivia it is easy to evade the government regulations, but you have to change number every 30 days or soApr 23 17:55
scientesI only did so cause it was a waste of my timeApr 23 17:56
scientesbut with that coup it will probably get turned over to Facebook like the other countriesApr 23 17:57
scientesso when you hear that Facebook is censoring, realize that the situation is so back in south-east asia that people don't know the difference between facebook and the internetApr 23 17:58
scientesso that all of the US's talk of "freedom" is complete utter hypocricyApr 23 17:58
XRevan86> so that all of the US's talk of "freedom" is complete utter hypocrisyApr 23 17:59
XRevan86I wonder who didn't get the memo alreadyApr 23 17:59
scientesyeah, I was thinking that when I wrote itApr 23 18:00
scienteshated evil empire raceApr 23 18:00
scienteshttps://www.resilience.org/stories/2006-12-04/closing-collapse-gap-ussr-was-better-prepared-collapse-us/Apr 23 18:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.resilience.org | Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US - ResilienceApr 23 18:00
scientes"Apr 23 18:00
scientesThe Hated Evil Empire Race is also finally being won by the Americans. It’s easy now that they don’t have anyone to compete against."Apr 23 18:00
MinceRwhat happened to red china and russia?Apr 23 18:00
scientesmaybe I can file for asylum in North KoreaApr 23 18:01
MinceR:>Apr 23 18:01
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XRevan86scientes: Somehow you still managed to find a worse one %)Apr 23 18:01
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scientesXRevan86, it is the only country that doesn't give a shit about this non-senseApr 23 18:01
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/AtdnaWnfzWCOclXrlRiIibai >Apr 23 18:01
scientesand that admits that it is a hoaxApr 23 18:01
scientesand whose supreme leader hugs people without shaming themApr 23 18:02
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogwgq7JsRtEApr 23 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hugs! yugioh Abridged Melvin'd quotes - YouTubeApr 23 18:02
XRevan86scientes: You do realise that it is a country with a dynasty cult?Apr 23 18:02
scienteshttps://nypost.com/2020/03/15/queen-elizabeth-ii-leaves-buckingham-palace-with-plans-for-quarantine-over-coronavirus/Apr 23 18:03
scienteshttps://variety.com/2020/biz/global/queen-elizabeth-coronavirus-footman-tests-positive-prince-charles-boris-johnson-1203548230/Apr 23 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Queen Elizabeth leaves Buckingham Palace for quarantine over coronavirusApr 23 18:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Queen Elizabeth’s Footman Diagnosed with Coronavirus (Report) – VarietyApr 23 18:03
XRevan86scientes: Okay, I see your point.Apr 23 18:04
XRevan86Still not a high barApr 23 18:04
scientesahhh, found something betterApr 23 18:07
scientesthe other country it is impossible to get a visa toApr 23 18:07
scienteshttps://rsf.org/en/news/coronavirus-limits-turkmenistanApr 23 18:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Coronavirus off limits in Turkmenistan | RSFApr 23 18:07
scientesexcept again, you can't get the sourceApr 23 18:08
scientesand that article is full of unsubstansiated slanderApr 23 18:08
XRevan86An extremely closed off country, yes.Apr 23 18:08
scientesI think that was the country where every newspaper had the president on the coverApr 23 18:08
XRevan86scientes: That is believable.Apr 23 18:09
scientesconsidering that the disease doesn't exist and does not pose a threat I want to go there nowApr 23 18:09
XRevan86scientes: You should consider Belarus'Apr 23 18:11
scientesbut yeah, very hard to get visaApr 23 18:11
XRevan86although it seems Lukashenko has been changing his mindApr 23 18:11
XRevan86(LITERALLY!? Did the lizard people get to him!?)Apr 23 18:11
scientesXRevan86, Belarus is the country that is impossible to go to unless you are Russian or BelorusApr 23 18:11
XRevan86scientes: That doesn't sound true.Apr 23 18:12
scientesXRevan86, not impossibleApr 23 18:12
scientesbut they have this open border with russia, except you have to be a citizen to cross itApr 23 18:12
XRevan86Ukrainians go there routinely for one thing.Apr 23 18:12
scienteswell its differen't with a ussr passportApr 23 18:12
scientesbut europeans can only go there by flying inApr 23 18:12
XRevan86USSR, right.Apr 23 18:12
scientesthe land borders are worthlessApr 23 18:12
scientesand I believe Russian trains require passportsApr 23 18:13
scientesso even with a russian visa you can't go thereApr 23 18:13
XRevan86scientes: Ah, you mean, now that aeroplanes are off.Apr 23 18:13
XRevan86scientes: You don't seriously consider that…Apr 23 18:13
scientesXRevan86, oh wow, niceApr 23 18:13
scienteshe called it "psycosis"Apr 23 18:13
scientesa real leaderApr 23 18:13
scientesI was really disappointed to see that Putin is just an actApr 23 18:14
scientesOK, now the problem is getting thereApr 23 18:14
XRevan86I probably said too much.Apr 23 18:14
scientespretty soon all the Moscow people will go to Belarus so they can do business without being harassedApr 23 18:14
scientes"Hundreds of thousands of Orthodox believers flocked to churches in Belarus on Sunday to celebrate Easter, a sharp contrast with reserved Orthodox Easter observances in other countries that banned public services. Lukashenko himself attended the services, accompanied by his 15-year-old son. "Apr 23 18:15
XRevan86Unlikely.Apr 23 18:15
scientesthe only country that celebrated Easter this yearApr 23 18:15
scientesthat REALLY pissed me offApr 23 18:15
XRevan86scientes: About 40 regions of Russia celebrated Easter.Apr 23 18:15
scientesno passover and no easterApr 23 18:15
scientesbut churches are closedApr 23 18:15
XRevan86Putin waivered quarantine measures to regions, so now each gets to decide for themselves.Apr 23 18:16
scientesahhhhApr 23 18:16
scientesnot in GeorgiaApr 23 18:16
XRevan86Everything got a lot more decentralised under the pandemic.Apr 23 18:16
scientesyes, I noticed thatApr 23 18:17
scientesPutin was *pleading* that regions not stop tradeApr 23 18:17
scientesbut Chechnya still did some of thatApr 23 18:17
scientesahh, that is a good reason to return back to the country-side where I wasApr 23 18:18
scientesas I was able to be around RussianApr 23 18:18
scientesand I still have beautiful women I can't talk to because my Russian sucksApr 23 18:18
XRevan86One tab: "I have 4 relatives died, 1 positive, plus other 3 ppl i know died"Apr 23 18:18
XRevan86Another tab: "considering that the disease doesn't exist and does not pose a threat I want to go there now"Apr 23 18:18
XRevan86Such diversity.Apr 23 18:19
MinceR:>Apr 23 18:19
scientesthe news is not diversityApr 23 18:19
scientesit is the same thing over and over againApr 23 18:19
scientesthey should call themselves the oldApr 23 18:19
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XRevan86scientes: That's not news, that's a person in my contacts list, lives in Italy.Apr 23 18:19
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scienteshttp://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=14196\Apr 23 18:22
scienteshttp://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=14196Apr 23 18:22
scientesyeah, it was TurkmenistanApr 23 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-turkmenistan.gov.tm | Golden ageApr 23 18:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-turkmenistan.gov.tm | Golden ageApr 23 18:22
scientesalso a HORRIBLE translationApr 23 18:22
scientes"Apr 23 18:22
scientesMonument of legendary horse shining with gold is placed on pyramid-shaped pedestal in the centre of architectural and sculptural ensemble decorating roundabout at the intersection of Kopetdag Avenue and Andalyb Street and indicating the love of Turkmens to their ‘winged’ horses. "Apr 23 18:22
XRevan86Metaphorically speaking an aeroplane is just like a winged horse…Apr 23 18:23
MinceRmetaphorically speaking everything could be equated to everything elseApr 23 18:25
XRevan86MinceR: I mean, in the context of historical human perception %)Apr 23 18:25
scientesand an article with the title "The President of Turkmenistan made a cycling ride"Apr 23 18:26
XRevan86To a hoo-man a horse is means of transportation, wings allow it to fly, so…Apr 23 18:26
XRevan86kinda a personal jet %)Apr 23 18:27
XRevan86No matter, not really something worth a debate.Apr 23 18:27
scienteslike this? http://turkmenistan.gov.tm/_eng/?id=14205Apr 23 18:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-turkmenistan.gov.tm | Golden ageApr 23 18:27
XRevan86scientes: No, this is just regular horses :DApr 23 18:29
scientesis this better? Сверкающее золотом изваяние легендарного скакуна вознесено на высокий пирамидальный постамент в центре архитектурно-скульптурного ансамбля, украшающего кольцевую развязку на пересечении проспекта Копетдаг и улицы Андалиба и свидеApr 23 18:29
scientesтельствующего о том, с какой любовью относятся туркмены к своим «крылатым» коням.Apr 23 18:29
XRevan86scientes: The same thing.Apr 23 18:29
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I'm not that worried about SJW's ruining companies. It's even alright by capitalist theory: companies that don't know how to count money will perish.Apr 23 18:33
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XRevan86If Mozilla perishes, that'll be a lot more sad though.Apr 23 18:35
scientesXRevan86, i see lots of services without anyone there https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/04/20/russia-s-orthodox-easter-amid-the-coronavirus-pandemicApr 23 18:36
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scientescrazy-fucking-landApr 23 18:37
scientesI feel like I woke up in a distopian novelApr 23 18:37
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scientesaccording the wikipedia the best dish of belarus is a potato pancakeApr 23 18:38
scientesthat is more like a universal-food-that-poor-people-eat-when-they-have-nothing-else-to-eat-foodApr 23 18:38
XRevan86scientes: Belarus' is very famous for its potatoes.Apr 23 18:39
scientesBolivia is very gamous for its potatoesApr 23 18:39
XRevan86Belarusian even has its own word for a potato different from Greater Russian and Ukrainian.Apr 23 18:39
scientesnot quite as much history in BelarusApr 23 18:39
scientesI heard an apocraphic story from a German that this german nobelman couldn't get his peasents to plant potatoes, so he had his soldiers guard a field of potatoes and look the other way when they stole themApr 23 18:40
XRevan86German^W Greater Russian: Kartoffel, Belarusian: BulbaApr 23 18:41
scientesSouth America has a great diversity of corn and potatoesApr 23 18:41
scientesbut you can't grow maize in the Bolivian high-landsApr 23 18:41
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarusian_cuisine#PotatoesApr 23 18:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Belarusian cuisine - WikipediaApr 23 18:42
scientesBelarusians were sometimes called bulbashi, a pejorative conjugation of the Belarusian word for potato. Apr 23 18:42
scienteshahahahahaApr 23 18:43
scientesGermans are sometimes called KrautsApr 23 18:43
scientesto make fun of how much sour kraut (picked cabbage) they eatApr 23 18:43
DaemonFC[m]The Trump campaign is prepared to send all of the old people it requires to jack up the Dow into the meat grinder, apparently. He's done such a piss poor job as our president, that his lead over Biden in Texas right now is only 2 points, which is within a polling error margin.Apr 23 18:45
scientesDaemonFC[m], dude, oil prices went negativeApr 23 18:45
scientesso stop dribbling on and one about the endless olds cycleApr 23 18:45
DaemonFC[m]I think oil prices are going to be weird for a year or more, personally.Apr 23 18:46
scientesgreat personal opinionApr 23 18:46
XRevan86Something tells me that is not going to affect the US as much as… some other countries.Apr 23 18:46
DaemonFC[m]Even if Trump manages to get a lot of stupid people to come out of their hidey holes, the rest of the country is terrified and isn't going to just go to the mall to look at novelty condoms because the orange menace said to.Apr 23 18:47
scientesXRevan86, in Azerbaijan it is already #1 news itemApr 23 18:47
scientesI am sure there for foreign meddling in the Georgian currencyApr 23 18:48
scientesto get it back to 3.17 from 3.5Apr 23 18:48
scientesthere is lots of news that money is free right now if you know the right peopleApr 23 18:48
scientesand it has been that way for quite a whileApr 23 18:48
scienteshell, most US citizens get $1200 freeApr 23 18:49
DaemonFC[m]Oil prices have never gone negative and it's stupid investors that don't even know what they're invested in that did this.Apr 23 18:49
DaemonFC[m]They ended up with a lot of contracts to buy oil that came up when nobody really wanted half that much oil and they got seriously burned.Apr 23 18:49
scientesPRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT Apr 23 18:49
DaemonFC[m]The $1,200 is being sucked up by debt collectors, paid immediately out for food and rent, or people hoard it to spend later if they don't end up needing it.Apr 23 18:50
DaemonFC[m]So it's not really going much of anywhere for the most part.Apr 23 18:50
scientesDaemonFC[m], indeed you have to leave the US Apr 23 18:50
scientesbut it still is just PRINT PRINT PRINTApr 23 18:50
DaemonFC[m]To stimulate the economy it has to be spent on new stuff, not seized to pay for shit that went on the credit card 3 years ago.Apr 23 18:50
scientesDaemonFC[m], you mean stimulate China's economyApr 23 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Some blue states are quickly exempting stimulus checks from the credit card collection agencies, but red states aren't.Apr 23 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Collection agencies are just parasites that buy debt speculatively for a few cents on the dollar for the right to collect on it. Even if half of it never comes in, they make money. They don't "produce" anything.Apr 23 18:52
scientesI am going to ignore you, cause you are annoyingApr 23 18:52
XRevan86> PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINTApr 23 18:52
XRevan86> I am going to ignore you, cause you are annoyingApr 23 18:52
scientesXRevan86, hehehehehApr 23 18:52
DaemonFC[m]To stimulate the economy, people have to buy something that took labor to produce, stock, and sell.Apr 23 18:53
scientesDaemonFC[m], but most of the US economy is composed of parasites, if you include all the back-scratchersApr 23 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Unless you count some guy sitting on his ass in a corn field in Indiana for $8 an hour going "Bitch, where's my money!" to anyone who will answer the phone as "labor", this isn't that.Apr 23 18:53
scientesthe US is mostly back-scratchersApr 23 18:53
scientesand now all those back-scratchers are at home, doing absolutely nothingApr 23 18:54
scientesand not paying their rentApr 23 18:54
scientesbecause evictions were haltedApr 23 18:54
scientesDaemonFC[m], oh yeah, did you here, you don't have to pay rent in the US anymoreApr 23 18:54
DaemonFC[m]I do. I'm living in a hotel. They could just deactivate the keycard.Apr 23 18:56
scientesbreak the windowApr 23 18:56
DaemonFC[m]This place filled up right away when the shit hit the fan.Apr 23 18:56
scientesyeah, the US is full of drifters, it is horribleApr 23 18:56
scientesand no-one knows their neighborsApr 23 18:56
DaemonFC[m]Most of them are loud black people smoking marijuana and beating their girlfriend while the police say walk it off.Apr 23 18:56
DaemonFC[m]Turned into a complete nightmare.Apr 23 18:56
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, there's no housekeeping now except for people in Darth Vader costumes asking if you want towels and toilet paper.Apr 23 18:58
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19102134Apr 23 19:13
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scienteshahahaApr 23 19:26
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: You'd have to be a complete bonehead to want to take extra chances of getting COVID-19.Apr 23 21:20
DaemonFC[m]So of course the religious freedom people are leading the charge.Apr 23 21:20
MinceRit seems to me that most humans are complete boneheadsApr 23 21:22
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, well, we'll be rid of many of the worst offenders after this.Apr 23 21:22
DaemonFC[m]That's the only part that is obvious.Apr 23 21:22
MinceRnot even the majority of themApr 23 21:22
MinceRdeath rate is well below 50%Apr 23 21:23
DaemonFC[m]It's like a bum in Chicago told me, Minder.Apr 23 21:23
DaemonFC[m]* MinceR Apr 23 21:23
DaemonFC[m]"Anything helps!!! Anything helps!!!!"Apr 23 21:23
MinceRyeah, just not enoughApr 23 21:23
DaemonFC[m]Well, if it gets rid of a lot of Republican voters, it might move the needle enough in a close election to make the difference.Apr 23 21:24
DaemonFC[m]Then we at least ditch the Angry Cheeto.Apr 23 21:24
sebsebsebMinceR: bone heads?  that's you :D Apr 23 21:24
MinceRno uApr 23 21:25
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The people not wearing masks and ignoring distancing and bringing the whole family to Walmart are probably why it's hurting blacks and Mexicans in Illinois so badly.Apr 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]White people showing up dressed like the Orkin Man and dousing shit in hand sanitizer....Apr 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]You know.;Apr 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]It's going to get rid of a lot of people who didn't take it seriously and to that extent it's pest control.Apr 23 21:27
MinceR"THIS IS NOT WAR, THIS IS PEST CONTROL!"Apr 23 21:27
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/29/b2e5349e2c000801.mp4Apr 23 21:29
sebsebsebin the UKApr 23 22:04
sebsebsebthe makes are debatableApr 23 22:04
sebsebsebif people should be waring them or not when out and aboutApr 23 22:04
sebsebsebplus something about if people have proper medical masks then  could get short in NHSApr 23 22:04
sebsebsebDaemonFC[m]: MinceR a lot of the masks don't work that wellApr 23 22:05
MinceRflamethrowers work betterApr 23 22:05
sebsebsebMinceR: DaemonFC[m] when did you lost go outside ?Apr 23 22:05
sebsebsebalso the social distancing here doesn't work particuary well in shops etcApr 23 22:05
MinceRlast week when i went shoppingApr 23 22:06
MinceRsocial distancing doesn't work anywhere hereApr 23 22:06
sebsebsebI went out yesterdayApr 23 22:06
sebsebseband will probably tommorow as wellApr 23 22:06
MinceRthere are more zombies on the streets than before the plagueApr 23 22:06
sebsebsebyeah the news goes on about the social distancing but then you acsutally go out and in most places it's quite well  like beforeApr 23 22:06
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sebsebsebMinceR: DaemonFC[m] you scared to go out ?Apr 23 22:22
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: SameApr 23 22:55
DaemonFC[m]sebsebseb: No more than I have to.Apr 23 22:56
DaemonFC[m]Truth is that Tenofovir could treat COVID, but that's generic and $20 so they're just letting people die while they investigate the $2,000 drug with 20 years of patents.Apr 23 22:56
DaemonFC[m]https://www.yahoo.com/news/wife-pastor-arrested-nearly-hitting-223909127.htmlApr 23 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | Wife of pastor arrested for nearly hitting protester with church bus flashes wads of cash as she bails him outApr 23 23:07
sebsebsebDaemonFC[m]: you think you could get corona and die ?Apr 23 23:09
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DaemonFC[m]Probably already had it.Apr 23 23:16
DaemonFC[m]Got pretty sick for weeks in February.Apr 23 23:16
DaemonFC[m]I take Tenofovir anyway as part of PrEP.Apr 23 23:16
MinceRhttps://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/14/wd-red-nas-drives-shingled-magnetic-recording/   https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/15/seagate-2-4-and-8tb-barracuda-and-desktop-hdd-smr/   https://blocksandfiles.com/2020/04/16/toshiba-desktop-disk-drives-undocumented-shingle-magnetic-recording/Apr 23 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blocksandfiles.com | Western Digital admits 2TB-6TB WD Red NAS drives use shingled magnetic recording – Blocks and FilesApr 23 23:16
DaemonFC[m]So I think that's why it didn't get worse than it did.Apr 23 23:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blocksandfiles.com | Seagate 'submarines' SMR into 3 Barracuda drives and a Desktop HDD – Blocks and FilesApr 23 23:16
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cubexyzif oil prices are negative, does that mean we get free gasoline? :)Apr 23 23:17
cubexyzI'm thinking no on that oneApr 23 23:17
MinceRunlikelyApr 23 23:17
MinceRit costs money to refine it, produce and add additives and deliver it to the fuel stationsApr 23 23:17
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sebsebsebMinceR: AppleApr 23 23:21
sebsebsebMinceR: IBMApr 23 23:21
sebsebsebMinceR: MotorollaApr 23 23:21
sebsebsebMinceR: NokiaApr 23 23:21
MinceR>llApr 23 23:21
sebsebsebMinceR: NovellApr 23 23:21
sebsebsebMinceR: MicrosoftApr 23 23:21
sebsebsebMinceR: CanonicalApr 23 23:22
sebsebsebMinceR: Open SUSEApr 23 23:22
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DaemonFC[m]> it costs money to refine it, produce and add additives and deliver it to the fuel stationsApr 23 23:23
DaemonFC[m]Don't forget taxes to defeat the Axis....Apr 23 23:23
NarratorhmmmApr 23 23:23
MinceRaren't taxes expressed as a percentage of the net price?Apr 23 23:24
DaemonFC[m]Nope. Well, kind of.Apr 23 23:24
MinceRin which case, if gasoline had negative price, taxes would be paid to you when you bought it? :>Apr 23 23:24
DaemonFC[m]In the US, gasoline is taxed several times.Apr 23 23:24
DaemonFC[m]There's a federal excise tax, a state excise tax, and in Illinois the state and local sales taxes.Apr 23 23:25
XRevan86You know what didn't get cheaper in Russia? Petrol.Apr 23 23:25
DaemonFC[m]They hide it all in there so you won't know who takes what.Apr 23 23:25
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MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2017/04/05/305e7cdc08bafc7b.pngApr 23 23:40
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smnthermes> XRevan86 Wrote:Apr 23 23:52
smnthermes> If Mozilla perishes, that'll be a lot more sad though.Apr 23 23:52
smnthermesIf Mozilla dies, possibly people will support a more ethical alternativeApr 23 23:52
XRevan86smnthermes: Except there won't be anything left but Blink.Apr 23 23:52
XRevan86So what ethical alternative? Google?Apr 23 23:52
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MinceRgopher, perhapsApr 23 23:53
sebsebsebXRevan86: smnthermes uh Mozilla won't just perish ?Apr 23 23:53
MinceRmozilla is already deadApr 23 23:54
sebsebsebMinceR: link? profe ?Apr 23 23:54
MinceRit died when they betrayed the open web so they could support DRM, patent-encumbered codecs and pocket insteadApr 23 23:54
sebsebsebit's lost a lot of market to GoogleApr 23 23:54
sebsebsebbut it's not dead surelyApr 23 23:54
sebsebsebMinceR: ok so it's not really dead in other words :)Apr 23 23:55
MinceRever since they only killed their products or made them worseApr 23 23:55
XRevan86MinceR: Mozilla wa mou shindeiruApr 23 23:55
MinceRfirefox used to be the best browser, but became an inferior copy of chromeApr 23 23:55
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MinceRone that tries to force poetteringaudio on its usersApr 23 23:55
sebsebsebMinceR: true it does look more like chrome nowApr 23 23:55
sebsebsebMinceR: poetteringaudio is what most Linux users use now, and  his boot up thing :DApr 23 23:55
MinceRnoApr 23 23:56
sebsebsebyesApr 23 23:56
sebsebseb!Apr 23 23:56
MinceRmost Linux users use AndroidApr 23 23:56
sebsebsebif we include Android then Google has most of the Linux market !Apr 23 23:56
Narrator99%Apr 23 23:56
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Narratorand bank's mainframes;-)Apr 23 23:56
XRevan86Then it's Android's Media ServerApr 23 23:57
sebsebsebMinceR: XRevan86 companeis ruleApr 23 23:58
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MinceRcorporations, governments and churches will be the end of life on Earth, if we don't stop themApr 23 23:58
sebsebsebXRevan86: XRevan86 usual people go for companies,    or things from companies, Google android google chrome,  microsoft office, microsoft windows, google android,  zoom,  whatsapp, facebook, twitterApr 23 23:58
XRevan86sebsebseb: Especially Google, the rulest of them all.Apr 23 23:58
sebsebsebthat was meant to be for mincer more so than you but yesApr 23 23:58
XRevan86At least in this Android / Chromium context.Apr 23 23:59
sebsebsebI have to use zoom now, not my choice!Apr 23 23:59
sebsebsebI have to use zoom sometimes now to do what I want to doApr 23 23:59
MinceRi have to use teamsApr 23 23:59
sebsebsebI was meant to be on a meeting earlier, but   a host didn't let in or whatever happendedApr 23 23:59
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MinceRit's funny how little of it actually worksApr 23 23:59
sebsebsebteams is from uhmm ?Apr 23 23:59
XRevan86sebsebseb: Did you try injecting Jitsi Meet links to your peers?Apr 23 23:59
MinceRthe mafia of redmondApr 23 23:59

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