●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, May 23, 2021 ●● ● May 23 [00:19] techrights-bot #Ardour 6.7 Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151491 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ardour 6.7 Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) Released | Tux Machines [00:19] *tagglink has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:20] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [00:20] techrights-bot #CentOS SIG To Help Get Community CentOS Stream Features Into Next RHEL Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151492 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines "I'm not sure anything will regain them the lost trust in CentOS ever again, after they dropped support for CentOS 8 _years_ before its previously announced end-of-life." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/late [00:20] techrights-bot ext-rhel-releases [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS SIG To Help Get Community CentOS Stream Features Into Next RHEL Releases | Tux Machines [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/lates ) [00:21] *cubexyz (~cubeman@maxhost.org) has joined #techrights [00:23] techrights-bot A lawyers' mouthpiece and propaganda tag basically frames #monopolies on #cannabis as a "health" and "safety" issue, as if competition will kill people. This is a typical lie of very dishonest people. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxgrnz3k20rl/how-food-brands-stem-cannabis-knock-offs [00:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | How food brands stem cannabis knock-offs | Managing Intellectual Property [00:25] techrights-bot "With respect to the '611 #patent , the Commission affirmed the ID's finding that the MacRocker and Mulberry Bounce chairs do not infringe under the doctrine of equivalents." https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/patent/1071350/commission-issues-public-version-of-opinion-finding-no-violation-of-section-337-in-certain-collapsible-and-portable-furniture-337-ta-1178 [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Commission Issues Public Version Of Opinion Finding No Violation Of Section 337 In Certain Collapsible And Portable Furniture (337-TA-1178) - Intellectual Property - United States [00:26] techrights-bot #litigation profiteer panic because "Federal Circuit continues its recent run of decisions extending the reach of the enablement requirement of 35 U.S.C. 112(a) to invalidate patents" https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/pacific-biosciences-of-california-inc-v-oxford-nanopore-technologies-inc-fed-cir-2021.html #cafc #patents [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Pacific Biosciences of California, Inc. v. Oxford Nanopore Technologies, Inc. (Fed. Cir. 2021) [00:28] techrights-bot Well, the EPO's guidelines are deeply flawed, unlawful, in violation in the EPC and so on. But law firms that sell services around this entire #fraud don't want clients to know that. https://www.novumip.com/en/insights/detail/european-patent-office-publishes-new-guidelines/ #novumip | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/23/#latest [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IP Insight | NovumIP [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:28] baronhk[m]1 I'm updating my blog posts a bit, and fixing things. [00:29] baronhk[m]1 About Apple, I added: [00:29] baronhk[m]1 "There are certainly more angles to this problem than security, choice, and economics, but by suppressing the user's ability to use the device however they want, they've taken all freedom from all of their users at all times. [00:29] baronhk[m]1 However, their App Store's effect of raising software prices, I feel, is as-if a gang of bandits went around robbing gas stations, which then had to charge you 30% more for the gasoline, and the government takes years to investigate it, and by the time there's a hearing on the matter, the bandits' defense is that they have to use the money from holding up the gas stations to fund inspectors to show up and make sure [00:29] baronhk[m]1 that the gas runs your car okay. Which they don't even do." [00:29] schestowitz what's the RSS feed? [00:29] schestowitz I'd subscribe [00:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [00:31] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs [00:32] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: How do I get at the RSS of a wordpress blog? [00:33] baronhk[m]1 https://wordpress.com/read/feeds/118045587 [00:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WordPress.com [00:33] baronhk[m]1 Is that it? [00:33] techrights-bot Well, the EPOs guidelines are deeply flawed, unlawful, in violation in the EPC and so on. But law firms that sell services around this entire #fraud dont want clients to know that. https://www.novumip.com/en/insights/detail/european-patent-office-publishes-new-guidelines/ #novumip | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/23/#latest [00:43] schestowitz https://baronhk.wordpress.com/feed [00:44] techrights-bot Well, the EPOs guidelines are deeply flawed, unlawful, in violation in the EPC and so on. But law firms that sell services around this entire #fraud dont want clients to know that. https://www.novumip.com/en/insights/detail/european-patent-office-publishes-new-guidelines/ #novumip | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/23/#latest [00:45] techrights-bot "As America wakes up slowly from its long slumber to the national COVID-19 nightmare, with perhaps a million dead so far, about 22% of the population, including some in my own family, say theyll refuse to take any vaccine." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/how-do-we-counter-anti-science-nonsense/ [00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | How do we counter anti-science nonsense? BaronHK's Rants [00:48] techrights-bot #patents are not "rights" and not "property" but lawyers and attorneys will lie to people to sell useless services and disservices that just drain money out... and into their pockets. https://www.mondaq.com/india/patent/1070690/intellectual-property-rights-patents [00:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Intellectual Property Rights - Patents - Intellectual Property - India [00:49] baronhk[m]1 I'm writing one about the DMCA, and in particular Github and how Microsoft is even worse about handing DMCA requests than Google. [00:51] techrights-bot #greenwashing of an immensely corrupt institution, the #EPO https://www.automotiveworld.com/articles/innovation-needed-to-cut-energy-consumption-in-ev-production/ #monopolies ... are GREEN! http://techrights.org/2021/04/27/epo-greenwashing-stunts/ [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.automotiveworld.com | Innovation needed to cut energy consumption in EV production | Automotive World [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPO Abuses Climate Change, Hijacking or Misusing Grassroots Activism for Corporate Public Relations Stunts | Techrights [00:53] techrights-bot "Relying on algorithms, digital streaming sources, such as Spotify and Apple Music, have honed the personalized recommendation, turning it into one of the primary (the primary?) means by which consumers are able to discover music to ones musical liking." No, #surveillance and #drm http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/how-playlists-are-changing-nature-of.html [00:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | How playlists are changing the nature of musical works - The IPKat [00:55] techrights-bot Speaking of monkey business and #euipo someone needs to investigate EUIPO for its monkey business http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/let-not-cancellation-division-see-your.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Let not the Cancellation Division see your black and deep desires: (another) Banksy mark cancelled by EUIPO due to bad faith - The IPKat [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [00:56] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: good [00:57] kakama 1;2c/go free [00:57] techrights-bot "Apples model makes the user lose on numerous fronts, and it makes software more expensive and costs jobs in the economy." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/tim-apple-testifies-in-court-on-the-app-store-monopoly/ #apple #monopoly #censorship [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Tim Apple testifies in court on the App Store monopoly. BaronHK's Rants [00:57] techrights-bot Stable Kernels: 5.12.6, 5.10.39, 5.4.121, 4.19.191, 4.14.233, 4.9.269 , and 4.4.269 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151493 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.12.6, 5.10.39, 5.4.121, 4.19.191, 4.14.233, 4.9.269 , and 4.4.269 | Tux Machines ● May 23 [01:00] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151494 #Linux #TuxMachines [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.95 swarm size (avg): 227.28 [01:33] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [01:34] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:35] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● May 23 [02:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.75 swarm size (avg): 227.38 [02:32] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-only-rejects-10-of-dmca-takedowns-microsoft-bing-0-5-microsoft-github-has-numerous-ethical-problems/ [02:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google only rejects 10% of DMCA takedowns. Microsoft Bing 0.5%. Microsoft GitHub has numerous ethical problems. BaronHK's Rants [02:32] baronhk[m]1 "I suspect that if you asked people which search engine was complying with more DMCA requests, their answer would be Google, since Microsoft spends so much money to try to paint Google as the less ethical of the two. [02:32] baronhk[m]1 While theyre both bad, Microsoft complies with the DMCA 99.5% of the time, even though 83% of the requests are invalid in some way. [02:32] baronhk[m]1 If thats their policy on Bing, what do you think your odds are on GitHub?" [02:34] baronhk[m]1 "Wikipedia, which is monitored and sanitized by Microsoft (as many other companies do, via Reputation Management firms), even admits that GitHub has problems that go well beyond the DMCA, such as collaborating with ICE (murderers of immigrant children) and firing one of their employees for condemning the people who tried to overthrow the American government, la The Handmaids Tale, after Trump lost the ele [02:34] MinceR well, there was the youtube-dl case [02:34] MinceR on shithub [02:37] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220521.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021 [02:38] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, May 22, 2021 [02:43] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-05-22.txt [02:43] baronhk[m]1 They actually keep a repo full of DMCA letters, which I linked to. ● May 23 [03:03] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [03:04] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 101950 total Total pages: 35655 Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-03-26 00:17:05 GMT; 1 months 27 days ago [03:04] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.2 GB TotalOut: 602 MB [03:04] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:05] techrights-ipfs QmUyLfRYPkuyGP11DJBmMK41rBVonTevJdY8V6EukiwZSE [03:12] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/federal-judge-unimpressed-with-tim-cooks-testimony/ [03:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Federal Judge unimpressed with Tim Cooks testimony. BaronHK's Rants [03:13] *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/EVujjiiCMaALfaIqgmoRbSwm/message.txt > [03:13] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rtyjhsredsaujoaq) has joined #techrights [03:17] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:18] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:19] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.50 swarm size (avg): 227.47 [03:21] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [03:21] AdmFubar https://techcrunch.com/2021/05/21/tim-cook-plays-innocent-in-epic-v-apples-culminating-testimony/ [03:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tim Cook plays innocent in Epic v Apples culminating testimony TechCrunch [03:33] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/qbittorrent-developer-apple-app-notarization-is-extortion-pretending-to-be-security-issue-closed-bonus-ancient-operating-systems-windows/ [03:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | QBittorrent Developer: Apple app notarization is extortion pretending to be security. Issue closed. Bonus: Ancient operating systems. (Windows) BaronHK's Rants [03:33] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [03:35] baronhk[m]1 "Most people who have an iPhone 6 recently found out that when you open apps, they don't really open anymore. Instead you just get a "Chuck iPhone and Buy Again" error. So regardless of what sort of shape the phone is in, there went that. " [03:43] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:44] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:44] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:45] baronhk[m]1 Still considering which distribution to try out on this thing. [03:45] baronhk[m]1 The only ones I really have much familiarity with that are still out there are Ubuntu and Fedora. [03:46] AdmFubar what thing are you talking about? [03:46] baronhk[m]1 Thinkbook 15 ITL Gen2 [03:47] baronhk[m]1 I might finally get around to looking at Manjaro. [03:48] baronhk[m]1 Ubuntu is falling down the list at Distrowatch. While that's hardly definitive, this is also the way Mandriva went on their way to bankruptcy. I don't think that user interest in Ubuntu is particularly high anymore. Nobody is pushing applications to PPAs and the Snap store is a wasteland too. [03:50] AdmFubar well it has enough horsepower to run any distro out there.. [03:50] AdmFubar I'd grab as many live distros that you can to test them out [03:55] AdmFubar I use this on a thumb drive https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ [03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pendrivelinux.com | MultiSystem - Create a MultiBoot USB from Linux | Pen Drive Linux [03:56] AdmFubar I have a lil lenovo netbook that I use mint on. desktop I use opensuse [03:59] AdmFubar brother uses MX on his desktop, with an ssd.. it is really fast... [03:59] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights ● May 23 [04:03] baronhk[m]1 It has the best i7 U processor you can buy right now. [04:15] baronhk[m]1 https://i.redd.it/5lzl9eouk9071.jpg [04:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.83 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.30 swarm size (avg): 227.56 [04:27] MinceR might as well run something decent on it, like void [04:33] AdmFubar I like this article... https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/federal-judge-unimpressed-with-tim-cooks-testimony/ [04:38] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● May 23 [05:04] *acerbox (~acer-box@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [05:04] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f55b:4984:e32b:a1ac) has joined #techrights [05:04] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:9e47:addf:5b42:cd6d) has joined #techrights [05:04] *schestowitz__ has quit (Changing host) [05:04] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [05:05] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:05] *schestowitz has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [05:05] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [05:05] *acer-box______ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:06] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:08] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [05:10] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [05:11] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/facebooks-crusade-to-make-itself-unusable-and-irrelevant-proceeding-at-full-pace/ [05:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Facebooks crusade to make itself unusable and irrelevant proceeding at full pace. BaronHK's Rants [05:11] *baronhk[m]1 < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/tsEtMWdGKydcXSzxZAhbdqDd/message.txt > [05:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.70 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.20 swarm size (avg): 227.63 [05:18] *rianne_ (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:f55b:4984:e32b:a1ac) has joined #techrights [05:46] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/application-compatibility-hell-microsoft-set-to-remove-internet-explorer-from-windows-10-but-99-of-it-will-linger/ [05:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Application Compatibility Hell: Microsoft set to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 10. (But 99% of it will linger.) BaronHK's Rants ● May 23 [06:04] schestowitz__ gm [06:06] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:10] schestowitz__ https://tuxdigital.com/2021/05/thisweekinlinux-152/ [06:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-152: Freenode IRC Fiasco, SUSE IPO, RHEL 8.4, Element, Sublime Text, Wine | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [06:15] schestowitz__ baronhk[m]1: thanks, will catch up with your posts [06:16] baronhk[m]1 I was looking at Rob Enderle. This guy is a real card. [06:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 8.31 swarm size (avg): 227.70 [06:16] schestowitz__ in IDG? [06:16] baronhk[m]1 Praising Microsoft's Productivity Score for making sure the boss sends out the memos on the TPS report. [06:16] baronhk[m]1 I'm sure Walmart is using something fucking retarded like this or will be soon. [06:17] baronhk[m]1 The bosses there have turned into slave drivers ever since the wages went up. They got rid of people who were playing on their iPhones and stealing candy bars and sodas from the front of the store. [06:17] baronhk[m]1 Managed to wipe out 1/6th of the Grocery Pickup Associates, who all passed the "personality test" to work there. [06:18] baronhk[m]1 So far, the one that tried to get my spouse to buy alcohol for her is still elusive, but she's playing with fire regarding her attendance record. [06:19] baronhk[m]1 Yeah. [06:19] CrystalMath schestowitz__: well, it happened, a channel i'm on just got forcibly blocked out [06:19] CrystalMath i'm trying to get people to move to a new one [06:19] CrystalMath it didn't at all seem like most want to move [06:20] CrystalMath sadly this channel has only one # despite being off-topic [06:20] CrystalMath so i can only try the ## [06:23] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [06:25] wineroots Forcibly blocked out? One of my channels jumped to libera.chat network. I guess many will follow suit. [06:26] baronhk[m]1 I was generally happy with CentOS 6.x on some of my desktop systems. [06:27] baronhk[m]1 I didn't really need anything big to change and it wasn't using systemd yet, so they usually never gave me big problems like sitting there and developing bad memory leaks or hanging instead of doing a reboot, or not applying the network configuration I just told it to. [06:28] baronhk[m]1 Phoronix is talking about CentOS Stream. It's not really RHEL compatible anymore. It's some stupid rolling release that has no real userbase. They kept CentOS going long enough to trick the other Enterprise Linux clones into giving up and recommending it, and then they made it useless. [06:30] baronhk[m]1 Debian 11 isn't frozen yet. I still need to look into that. [06:30] baronhk[m]1 It seems likely that it'll work okay on my laptop. [06:30] schestowitz__ I have just renews the techrights ssl cerf [06:31] schestowitz__ the site isn't meant to be accessed over :443 [06:31] schestowitz__ but some do it anyway [06:31] schestowitz__ with stupid firefox extensions [06:31] schestowitz__ it's a self-signed cert [06:31] schestowitz__ I'm not outsourcing to LF [06:31] baronhk[m]1 Windows 10 is pretty insistent on re-adding all kinds of links back to things you already deleted. [06:32] schestowitz__ chrome is terrorising users [06:32] schestowitz__ making it very hard to access sites with self-signed certs [06:32] baronhk[m]1 I was surprised that it lets you remove OneDrive and then the icons for it are apparently part of the OS image that get put back (but not OneDrive) during the upgrades. [06:32] baronhk[m]1 Manifest v3 [06:33] schestowitz__ [06:19] schestowitz__: well, it happened, a channel i'm on just got forcibly blocked out [06:33] schestowitz__ when? where? what? [06:33] CrystalMath #osdev just got +m by an evil chanop [06:33] baronhk[m]1 Over in Browser Wars I had a nice long argument with some Google fanboy hipsters about how Manifest v3 was malicious. [06:33] CrystalMath to force people to move to libtardia [06:33] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: which network? [06:33] CrystalMath freenode [06:33] CrystalMath it has a single # because it's 20yo [06:33] CrystalMath before the ## rule [06:34] baronhk[m]1 They claimed that something that mostly exists to brick your ad blocker isn't some kind of an attack on the user. [06:34] schestowitz__ oh, wait [06:34] schestowitz__ to be clear here... [06:34] schestowitz__ this isn't a freenode thing [06:34] schestowitz__ it's someone's channel [06:34] baronhk[m]1 Even Microsoft Edge has some level of ad blocking capability in the program itself, even without ublock-origin. If you set it to Strict, it has most of those problems covered, but there's still a popunder problem sometimes. [06:34] schestowitz__ trying to force people not to stay [06:34] CrystalMath schestowitz__: yes but it's almost everyone's channel soon [06:35] CrystalMath devuan too [06:35] CrystalMath (though i wasn't really there) [06:35] schestowitz__ I know about psql [06:35] schestowitz__ you named one also [06:35] CrystalMath but not debian :P [06:35] CrystalMath debian is maybe going to oftc [06:35] CrystalMath but they're not sure [06:35] schestowitz__ many are not sure [06:36] baronhk[m]1 None of the "open source" browsers really cut it anymore. [06:36] CrystalMath yeah but retarded chanops are doing this [06:36] baronhk[m]1 I can see Firefox using a different amount of memory than the others, but not 400% more. [06:42] baronhk[m]1 I'm unsure of whether I should renew my Private Internet Access subscription when it comes due in November or just find another provider. [06:43] schestowitz__ on the basis of Kape? [06:44] baronhk[m]1 Yeah. [06:44] baronhk[m]1 They bought them a few weeks after I bought a subscription for a year. [06:51] schestowitz__ http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2021-May-23.html.en#2021-May-23-11:33:56 [06:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | Last weekend I had Debian meeting. [06:51] schestowitz__ "Last weekend I had Debian meeting. I presented how Golang packages work. I don't really know how they work and I learnt how they work along with preparation for the material. I noticed that I couldn't present a window from Chrome browser. After playing around a little bit more Filed a bug, seems like unable to capture the display or the wayland window, only X11 windows, but I wonder what will come out of it. I have issues with IME [06:51] schestowitz__ keybindings not reliably working, and this. Wayland is not dependable for me yet." ● May 23 [07:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.03 swarm size (avg): 227.77 [07:44] *AVRS has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [07:47] *AVRS (~AVRS@wikimedia/AVRS) has joined #techrights [07:49] kingoffrance CrystalMath, hey if someone starts another osdev ill stick around, just make it clear unaffiliated with prior and wiki etc. [07:49] kingoffrance thats teh only channel of mine ive seen move thus far [07:49] kingoffrance s/of mine/that i am in/ [07:50] kingoffrance find some ops, i'm there [07:56] *oarion7 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [07:57] schestowitz__ kingoffrance: we can make similar things to it [07:57] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: don't berate them [07:57] schestowitz__ (not condoning either) [07:57] schestowitz__ it's not worth looking like a bunch of bullies [07:57] schestowitz__ let's focus on retention [07:57] schestowitz__ because we don't want this to become a mess [07:57] schestowitz__ it's already becoming a little fragmented [07:58] schestowitz__ but all the freenode channels I use are still here [07:59] schestowitz__ if you /join #phoronix you will see that everyone (not many), inc. zoobab, is still there [07:59] schestowitz__ many don't use IRC for much anymore [07:59] schestowitz__ no matter the network [07:59] schestowitz__ I don't trust ANY third party IRC network ● May 23 [08:00] schestowitz__ you are always at the mercy of people you barely know [08:00] schestowitz__ our server is owned and managed (at HV level at least) by kaniini [08:00] schestowitz__ and I've known her online for ages [08:01] schestowitz__ better than some of those people who run irc servers, inc. oftc [08:01] schestowitz__ doesn't matter is it's one person or board/council [08:01] kingoffrance agree on all points, i tried to say "just start a new one" not try to lure ppl either way etc. and "ill stick around" didn't mean i was leaving. poor choice of words maybe [08:01] schestowitz__ they can gang up on people and causes for political or professional reasons [08:01] schestowitz__ we could set up irc.techrights.org [08:01] schestowitz__ which I could self-host from home [08:01] schestowitz__ but that would not help [08:01] schestowitz__ people then need to join yet another network [08:02] schestowitz__ and there's downtime risk, like even if my ISP has issues or we have an outage (electric), which is more rare [08:02] schestowitz__ "sorry, lads and girls, we overcooked a toast. We're back online now! All of us..." [08:03] kingoffrance lol [08:03] schestowitz__ "so, you were saying...." [08:03] CrystalMath kingoffrance: ##osdev [08:03] schestowitz__ also, I don't have static IP [08:03] kingoffrance downtime due to new microwave, fixed now lol [08:03] schestowitz__ it the IP address rolls over, then I need to update DNS [08:03] schestowitz__ and that can take a while to propagate [08:04] schestowitz__ we self-host our ipfs and gemini stuff [08:04] schestowitz__ but if they are temporarily offline, it doesn't affect things like ircd [08:04] schestowitz__ ipfs would fall back onto other nodes [08:04] schestowitz__ gemini would be temporarily offline [08:05] schestowitz__ michaellarabel isn't in phoronix irc anymore [08:05] schestowitz__ so i guess he totally gave up on it [08:06] schestowitz__ he wrote about freenode some days ago [08:06] schestowitz__ 10+ years ago I used to chat with him in freenode [08:06] schestowitz__ he would also post logs of the channel [08:06] schestowitz__ but then he stopped [08:06] schestowitz__ and the channel was rotting, almost totally inactive [08:06] schestowitz__ many other channels were the same... stagnation [08:07] schestowitz__ so now it's all phpbb/vbulletin as comments for his articles [08:07] schestowitz__ I'm not sure or can't recall which bb cms he uses [08:07] schestowitz__ it used to 'spam' users every year with birthday greetings [08:07] schestowitz__ like I need to get a birthday greeting from a CMS bot [08:08] schestowitz__ "YOU REMEMBERED! YOU REMEMBERED, Phoronix Forums! Thanks for remembering my birthday!" [08:08] schestowitz__ baronhk[m]1: your blog is good [08:08] schestowitz__ expect me to link a lot to it [08:08] schestowitz__ this time around don't take it offline like you did with your prior wordpress.com blogs, which were free to keep online anyway [08:09] schestowitz__ for some strange reason google.com is indexing parts of TR as https [08:09] schestowitz__ very good [08:09] schestowitz__ my guess is, google spies on chrome users to figure out what pages to crawl [08:09] schestowitz__ and some of them use part 443 even though we clearly never promote it for anything [08:10] schestowitz__ so google.com then redirects people to a working site with a self-signed cert [08:10] schestowitz__ I've just extended it for 12 months [08:10] schestowitz__ but Chromium and derivs are super fussy avout self-signed [08:11] schestowitz__ like self-signed= scam and "outsourced to LF/Pentagon/whatever"=totally legit [08:11] schestowitz__ Google is like a weapon of digital imperialism [08:11] schestowitz__ of course mozillz, funded by Google, follows this lead [08:11] schestowitz__ in gemini I self-sign with 10-year expirt [08:11] schestowitz__ iirc, about 80% of capsules do the same [08:11] schestowitz__ and no issues with gemini clients [08:12] schestowitz__ the goal is to avoid those "trust" monopolies [08:12] schestowitz__ https://framagit.org/bortzmeyer/lupa [08:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framagit.org | Stphane Bortzmeyer / Lupa GitLab [08:12] schestowitz__ gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/ [08:13] schestowitz__ "gemini.techrights.org: 10000 URLs" [08:13] schestowitz__ We are still #1 :0) [08:13] schestowitz__ '878 (86.5 %) capsules are self-signed, 114 (11.2 %) use the Certificate Authority Let's Encrypt, 23 (2.3 %) are signed by another CA (may be not a trusted one)." [08:13] schestowitz__ 87% [08:13] schestowitz__ signed by oneself [08:14] schestowitz__ 11% LF/Pentagon/etc. [08:14] schestowitz__ 2% other [08:14] schestowitz__ we need to lobby, web-wide, against these trust monopolies [08:14] schestowitz__ they not do the same for software [08:14] schestowitz__ led by IBM and GOogle [08:14] schestowitz__ and fronting via LF [08:15] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/trust-models/ [08:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Regaining Control Over Infrastructure With Decentralisation and Trusted Encryption | Techrights [08:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.28 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.13 swarm size (avg): 227.86 [08:15] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ [08:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Its Disguised as Free Privacy | Techrights [08:15] schestowitz__ this was just a year ago: http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ [08:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundations Lets Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights [08:16] schestowitz__ far more dodgy than anything people accuse PIA of [08:22] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:23] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:23] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● May 23 [09:11] techrights-bot Application Compatibility Hell: #Microsoft set to remove Internet Explorer from #Windows 10. (But 99% of it will linger.) https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/application-compatibility-hell-microsoft-set-to-remove-internet-explorer-from-windows-10-but-99-of-it-will-linger/ [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Application Compatibility Hell: Microsoft set to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 10. (But 99% of it will linger.) BaronHK's Rants [09:11] techrights-bot parallel @ Savannah: #GNUParallel 20210522 ('Gaza') released http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9999 #gnu #freesw [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Parallel - News: GNU Parallel 20210522 ('Gaza') released [Savannah] [09:11] techrights-bot This Week in Linux 152: Freenode IRC Fiasco, SUSE IPO, RHEL 8.4, Element, Sublime Text, Wine https://tuxdigital.com/2021/05/thisweekinlinux-152/ [09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-152: Freenode IRC Fiasco, SUSE IPO, RHEL 8.4, Element, Sublime Text, Wine | This Week in Linux - TuxDigital [09:11] techrights-bot Sharing and fictional losses https://i.redd.it/5lzl9eouk9071.jpg [09:12] techrights-bot "The only amusing thing about Facebook is that theyre sweating bullets that Apples new tool that gives the user some control over how Facebook abuses them might run their stock price into the ground." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/facebooks-crusade-to-make-itself-unusable-and-irrelevant-proceeding-at-full-pace/ [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Facebooks crusade to make itself unusable and irrelevant proceeding at full pace. BaronHK's Rants [09:12] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, May 22, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [09:12] techrights-bot Google only rejects 10% of DMCA takedowns. #Microsoft Bing 0.5%. #Microsoft #GitHub has numerous ethical problems. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-only-rejects-10-of-dmca-takedowns-microsoft-bing-0-5-microsoft-github-has-numerous-ethical-problems/ #deleteGitHub [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google only rejects 10% of DMCA takedowns. Microsoft Bing 0.5%. Microsoft GitHub has numerous ethical problems. BaronHK's Rants [09:12] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:13] techrights-bot #QBittorrent Developer: Apple app notarization is extortion pretending to be security. Issue closed. Bonus: Ancient operating systems. (Windows) https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/qbittorrent-developer-apple-app-notarization-is-extortion-pretending-to-be-security-issue-closed-bonus-ancient-operating-systems-windows/ [09:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | QBittorrent Developer: Apple app notarization is extortion pretending to be security. Issue closed. Bonus: Ancient operating systems. (Windows) BaronHK's Rants [09:14] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 22, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/irc-log-220521/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/irc-log-220521/ [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, May 22, 2021 | Techrights [09:14] techrights-bot Shows and Videos: Linux Action News, This Week in Linux, OniVi, and Fedora 34 | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151495 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows and Videos: Linux Action News, This Week in Linux, OniVi, and Fedora 34 | | Tux Machines [09:14] techrights-bot Federal Judge unimpressed with Tim Cooks testimony. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/federal-judge-unimpressed-with-tim-cooks-testimony/ #apple [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Federal Judge unimpressed with Tim Cooks testimony. 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[10:05] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #VOANews # #Ransomware Moves from Economic Nuisance to National Security Threat https://www.voanews.com/silicon-valley-technology/ransomware-moves-economic-nuisance-national-security-threat [10:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Ransomware Moves from 'Economic Nuisance' to National Security Threat | Voice of America - English [10:05] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #VentureBeat # #FBI warns Conti #ransomware gang struck health and emergency networks https://venturebeat.com/2021/05/21/fbi-warns-conti-ransomware-gang-struck-health-and-emergency-networks/ [10:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FBI warns Conti ransomware gang struck health and emergency networks | VentureBeat [10:06] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [10:06] techrights-bot NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Surveillance #Instagram Embed Feature Sparks #Copyright Suit From Users 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http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [13:17] *tagg (~tagglink@ua-84-216-128-96.bbcust.telenor.se) has joined #techrights [13:20] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151504 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [13:20] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:21] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:21] techrights-bot Links 23/5/2021: #Ardour 6.7 and #GNUParallel 20210522 http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/gnu-parallel-20210522/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/gnu-parallel-20210522/ [13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/5/2021: Ardour 6.7 and GNU Parallel 20210522 | Techrights [13:32] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [13:36] *tagg has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:42] techrights-bot #EPO Deciding on the Legality of ViCo... Over #ViCo http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/legality-of-vico/ #Techrights #Europe #EPC | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/legality-of-vico/ [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Deciding on the Legality of ViCo Over ViCo | Techrights [13:58] techrights-bot [Meme] ViCo: Videoconference as Courtroom http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/webchat-as-court/ liars call it "innovation" and "tech" even if you could do all this DECADES ago. But didn't. The only 'innovation' here is exploiting #pandemic to abolish human rights. [13:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ViCo: Videoconference as Courtroom | Techrights ● May 23 [14:03] techrights-bot The EPO's War on Justice and Assault on the Law -- Part 18 will be published in #techrights tomorrow morning... part 17: http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ #epo #europe [14:06] techrights-bot See the comments here. #epo #injustice #corruption #stackedCourts #europe http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/05/20/g-1-21-we-have-a-new-chairman/#comments [14:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | G 1/21 - We have a new Chairman - Kluwer Patent Blog [14:12] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [14:24] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:39] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [14:39] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:51] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:52] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:59] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:59] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) ● May 23 [15:00] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:02] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:20] XRevan86 baronhk[m]1: Andrew has stake in Kape and a board member. [15:33] *ubuntourist has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:37] schestowitz__ that might be expected [15:37] schestowitz__ URL? [15:43] *inky (~inky@178.78.139.52) has joined #techrights [15:49] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:52] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [15:57] techrights-bot #ibm and #redhat sand and water? "I have not been all that impressed with the RHers I have worked with, although they all think their sh-t doesn't stink." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse#replies [15:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs [15:59] XRevan86 schestowitz__: https://investors.kape.com/~/media/Files/K/Kape-IR/documents/kape-20201030-from-strength-to-strength.pdf ● May 23 [16:00] schestowitz__ "Kape has reached an agreement with the PIA Founders to purchase their initial consideration shares and their right to receive theirdeferred consideration shares, for a total consideration of approximately $72 million. " [16:00] schestowitz__ I read somewhere PIA had operated at a loss [16:00] schestowitz__ and had amassed 32 million in debt [16:01] schestowitz__ "Mr Lee joined Kape with Ted Kim, LTMIs CEO, joining the Kape board as a non-executive director and he remains with the business following the agreement (see below) to lead Kapes North America operations in an executive capacity. Andrew Lee agreed to provide consulting services to Kape for a period of three years following completion through a separate services company" [16:01] schestowitz__ About 6 months ago [16:02] schestowitz__ What does Kape sell at the moment? [16:02] schestowitz__ They say they do "security" [16:02] schestowitz__ their past suggests otherwise... [16:03] schestowitz__ Kape is owned by a larger entity [16:03] schestowitz__ whose chief/founder was arrested about 25 years ago, aged 25 [16:03] schestowitz__ fraud and bribery [16:03] schestowitz__ but nothing since then that I know of... [16:04] schestowitz__ Kape is an Israeli company like the parent entity [16:04] schestowitz__ the parent entity is connected to gambling at its roots [16:04] schestowitz__ the question is, what do they get from PIA and, by extension, from IRC/freenode? [16:05] schestowitz__ if the explanation is remotely reasonable, let's hear it [16:05] schestowitz__ I saw a press release from Kape about the buyout [16:05] schestowitz__ wait, will look for it [16:07] schestowitz__ they say they have over a million subscribers [16:08] schestowitz__ page 3 in https://investors.kape.com/~/media/Files/K/Kape-IR/documents/kape-20200319-strong-financial-performance-in-fy-2019.pdf [16:08] schestowitz__ Zenmate [16:09] schestowitz__ for macOS [16:09] schestowitz__ I think they sell malware detection or somethinf [16:09] schestowitz__ page 6 says they want to grow PIA subscribers number [16:10] CrystalMath schestowitz__: freenode is still at 70,000 people [16:10] schestowitz__ what was it before? [16:11] schestowitz__ like, last week [16:11] CrystalMath ~75,000 [16:11] schestowitz__ CrystalMath: I spent last night reading more about what I had seen last week [16:11] CrystalMath but last year it was 80,000 [16:11] schestowitz__ I don't see evidence strong enough that kape will harvest data from VPN users [16:11] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:11] schestowitz__ yes, irc numbers always decrease [16:11] CrystalMath schestowitz__: also kape has no control over freenode [16:11] schestowitz__ and as more networks appear, some might move [16:11] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:11] CrystalMath schestowitz__: lots of people were pushed out by former freenode staff [16:11] schestowitz__ slack, ms sTeamEngine etc. [16:12] CrystalMath schestowitz__: especially in 2020 [16:12] CrystalMath they had a campaign against wrongthink [16:12] schestowitz__ anyway, I don't expect many more to panic and leave... I've seen no really strong reason to [16:12] CrystalMath jess herself admitted she's on 250 channels, watching for anyone to say something "dangerous" and get klined [16:12] schestowitz__ other than, "I don't like this company" [16:13] schestowitz__ anyway, let's get back on topic [16:14] schestowitz__ because, in general, we deal with a largely old issue [16:14] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::ff0c) has joined #techrights [16:14] schestowitz__ like the whole "Cancel FSF" thing [16:14] schestowitz__ (they say "RMS") [16:14] schestowitz__ but we know they target the mindset, GPL, FSF... [16:14] schestowitz__ I'm about to release some code [16:14] schestowitz__ I also spent 2 hours redoing my desks and making backups etc. [16:15] schestowitz__ next week or later this week there's a massive EPO case [16:20] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [16:23] MinceR saint_dogbert: they say they don't accept link applications for home servers [16:24] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [16:25] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:26] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:30] techrights-bot The EPOs Enlarged Board of Appeals (EBA) will start discussing the legality of #ViCo under scenarios where either party (or both) in a dispute rejects ViCo http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/legality-of-vico/ #Techrights #EPO #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/legality-of-vico/ [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Deciding on the Legality of ViCo Over ViCo | Techrights [16:30] *inky (~inky@178.78.139.52) has joined #techrights [16:31] techrights-bot Very few people (in public discourse at least) have bothered pointing out how truly laughable it is that judges and parties in high-stake disputes connect to servers of some private, for-profit, foreign company http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/webchat-as-court/ [16:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] ViCo: Videoconference as Courtroom | Techrights [16:35] XRevan86 Oh hey, Libreboot is alive. [16:35] XRevan86 https://libreboot.org/news/libreboot20210522.html [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libreboot.org | Libreboot Libreboot 20210522 released! [16:38] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [16:38] schestowitz__ XRevan86: cool [16:43] techrights-bot Using a Single-Board Computer to Monitor #IPFS http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/monitoring-ipfs/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/monitoring-ipfs/ [16:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Using a Single-Board Computer to Monitor IPFS | Techrights [16:45] *schestowitz__ is now known as schestowitz [16:45] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [16:45] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs [16:46] techrights-bot #Libreboot 20210522 released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151505 #GNU #hardware #TuxMachines [16:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Libreboot 20210522 released! | Tux Machines [16:48] techrights-bot The Intellectual Property [sic] Owners [sic] Association (IPO) is waging #CLASSwar on behalf of racist and sexist companies like #ibm that lobby for #swpats i.e. monopolies on maths. But they pretend to be "woke" for misleading purposes. https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/ipo-webinar-on-inventor-diversity.html [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Inventor Diversity [16:54] *phobos (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [16:55] techrights-bot "Poor IBM. Maybe they should discontinue it and rent something that works?" #ibm #clowncomputing https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aW71VrT#replies [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Clouds biggest region hit by five-hour Severity One brownout - post regarding IBM layoffs [16:58] techrights-bot #Dennemeyer 's Irene Corn is lying to or giving false hopes to people, basically relaying the lie that #softwarepatents stand a chance in court. All they care about is patents, patents and more patents, never mind their legitimacy. https://blog.dennemeyer.com/the-tech-dilemma-should-i-patent-my-app #swpats [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.dennemeyer.com | The tech dilemma: Should I patent my app? ● May 23 [17:00] techrights-bot Patenting seeds, plants and animals as if humans 'invented' them... https://www.hortidaily.com/article/9321892/horticulture-protects-innovation-with-more-than-just-a-patent/ #patent #patents #NotAJoke #NotSatire #monoplies [17:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hortidaily.com | Horticulture protects innovation with more than just a patent [17:02] techrights-bot There is no such thing as "IP" (they mean something else) and those things they allude to are not rights either. Law firms like #Freylinger need to study the basics of the area they operate in... https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1071184/new-report-on-protection-and-enforcement-of-ip-rights [17:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | New Report On Protection And Enforcement Of IP Rights - Intellectual Property - European Union [17:03] techrights-bot #IPFS is light and simple enough to run from ones home, even on a low-voltage machine, and the code below can be used as a baseline for monitoring IPFS activity 24/7 http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/monitoring-ipfs/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/monitoring-ipfs/ [17:04] techrights-bot #corporateMedia that LOVES and EMBRACES #cancelCulture : #freenode is dead! DOOMED. Reality: number of users decreased from 70k to 65k. Not a significant drop. [17:05] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs "Have they asked you to train anybody? That is usually a sign of things to come." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse#replies [17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:06] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [17:08] techrights-bot #chocolate wars. #monopolies https://www.mondaq.com/germany/trademark/1071194/think-outside-the-square [17:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Think Outside The Square? - Intellectual Property - Germany [17:10] techrights-bot As if without #patents there will be no #medicine ; in reality, the patents prevent #accesstomedicines , including #generics , hence killing people needlessly https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxrvp65sgv9j/european-generics-decry-increasing-delays-from-divisionals [17:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | European generics decry increasing delays from divisionals | Managing Intellectual Property [17:11] *zleap (~zleap@unaffiliated/zleap) has joined #techrights [17:13] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:13] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:15] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.28 swarm size (avg): 228.26 [17:15] techrights-bot Dennis Crouch, openly funded by #patent #litigation firms that lobby hard for #softwarepatents , is working overtime to undermine #PTAB , which tosses out lots of abstract patents that oughtn't have been granted (maths) https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/arthrex-decision-cure.html [17:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | The Arthrex Decision and its Cure | Patently-O [17:16] techrights-bot Truly the wrong modality for assessing #patent application, with vague words rather than scientific substance https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=31323fe3-0de7-4cf1-bad1-7b0a8d0a27f2 [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-No Contribution to the Invention, No Utility Model Protection - Lexology [17:16] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:17] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [17:18] techrights-bot #patent maximalists inside the European Commission https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/eu-affairs/170142/european-commission-defends-compulsory-licences-over-patent-removal/ see http://techrights.org/2020/12/01/the-breton-coverup/ [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brusselstimes.com | European Commission defends compulsory licences [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Commissions Thierry Breton Covers Up EPO Corruption For His Friend Benot Battistelli | Techrights [17:21] techrights-bot "After listening to the for and against debate in the European Parliament, however, I decided to put a few thoughts on paper (well, on the screen) because for or against the waiver strikes me as the wrong debate." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/guest-post-trips-waiver-debate-why-and.html [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] The TRIPS Waiver Debate: Why, and where to from here? - The IPKat [17:21] *search_social has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [17:23] techrights-bot Enforcing secrecy using cheesy laws... so staff knowing something makes them potential 'crooks', with possible jail sentences for doing something with what they know. https://www.law360.com/trials/articles/1387002/ip-forecast-customer-service-secrets-row-heads-to-jury [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IP Forecast: Customer Service Secrets Row Heads To Jury - Law360 [17:24] techrights-bot Always just looking for something to sue, sue, sue: "in-house counsel are planning to analyse the #patent landscape and speed up prosecution, according to five sources." https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxkcgk1z9l4w/this-week-in-ip-inhouse-reveal-brazil-plans-tmview-gets-32m-china-marks-samsung-loses-25m-case [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: in-house reveal Brazil plans, TMview gets 32m China marks, Samsung loses $25m case | Managing Intellectual Property [17:27] techrights-bot Wolves to have a fireside 'chat' with sheep... they've long hated #PTAB for tossing out loads of #fakepatents https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/iplac-fireside-chat-on-ptab.html #uspto [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPLAC Fireside Chat on PTAB [17:31] techrights-bot In the past week IRC has received press coverage like it has not received in a decade or decades. No such thing as "bad publicity", right? IRC is still vastly better in a lot of ways (very extensible) than the #proprietarySofwtare bloat that's being spammed across so-called 'press' or 'media' (PR as 'news'). [17:34] techrights-bot What a way to set the scene for UEFA CL final: #ManCity winning 4+ to 0, Chelsea losing to a not-so-great club. Today City lifts a trophy, another (bigger) one in less than a week? That would be historic... [17:41] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [17:42] CrystalMath schestowitz: Libera staff forcefully took over my channels there, saying that locking channels up and forwarding to freenode is not allowed [17:42] CrystalMath they also claim that it's not allowed to lock up channels and forward to libera on freenode [17:42] CrystalMath rasengan: is this correct? [17:43] XRevan86 CrystalMath: What does "lock up" mean by the way? Not allowing people to join? [17:43] CrystalMath yeah [17:43] CrystalMath or not allowing people to speak [17:43] CrystalMath with +m for example [17:43] XRevan86 CrystalMath: I don't know the rules but that sounds plausible. [17:43] techrights-bot Richard Stallman "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" - Plenary Session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8mOIAY_Jmw #rms #gnu #fsf #freesw [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman "What Stands in the Way of Digital Freedom?" - Plenary Session - YouTube [17:44] CrystalMath XRevan86: it does, however, these people accused rasengan of "abuse of power" for doing the same thing [17:44] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It wasn't the same thing though, ##hntop was not locked up. [17:44] CrystalMath but now they claim it was not an abuse of power, so, let's make sure they cannot use this again [17:44] psydroid that's a great way to find out their true motives [17:45] CrystalMath psydroid: no, they do claim that both sides are right to do so [17:45] CrystalMath but that means freenode has the green light [17:45] CrystalMath to stop the use of force to move people over to libera [17:45] CrystalMath XRevan86: in fact it was, the person admitted this [17:45] psydroid CrystalMath, what I'm saying is that they don't have the moral high ground here [17:46] CrystalMath they don't [17:46] CrystalMath they never had [17:46] scientes Or the oral low ground [17:46] XRevan86 CrystalMath: That wasn't mentioned on https://devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse [17:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 308 @ https://devever.net/~hl/freenode_abuse ) [17:46] psydroid and this way you helped us find out [17:47] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So ##hntop was locked up? [17:48] XRevan86 He writes in detail that he changed the channel topic and disconnected his bot. [17:49] XRevan86 CrystalMath: So who admitted what and where? [17:50] techrights-bot #Mancity 5-0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWbD1EXJ5rg [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Manchester City vs Everton 5-0 Extended Highlights & All Goals 2021 HD - YouTube [17:51] CrystalMath XRevan86: he changed the topic and didn't let anyone else change it back, didn't let the channel continue [17:51] XRevan86 > they also claim that it's not allowed to lock up channels and forward to libera on freenode [17:52] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Can ye clarify with them that what Hugo Landau did on Freenode is not allowed on Libera? [17:52] CrystalMath XRevan86: i did it there and they took my channel [17:52] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye said ye locked it up. [17:52] CrystalMath XRevan86: the topic was set, and only later i set the channel to restricted [17:52] CrystalMath the difference is minimal [17:52] CrystalMath it was empty anyway [17:53] CrystalMath it was my channel, and they decided to take it because i'm pro-freenode [17:54] schestowitz register #aboveofpower [17:54] schestowitz *abuse [17:54] CrystalMath no, i disconnected [17:54] CrystalMath i don't want to go back there [17:54] CrystalMath i don't want to give them extra users [17:54] schestowitz true [17:54] CrystalMath not even that 1 [17:54] schestowitz that's why when you told me you had held ##techrigths there I thought, wtf? [17:54] schestowitz what for? [17:54] schestowitz you give the impression x+1 are moving [17:55] CrystalMath i'm sorry, it is possible that i wasn't yet fully sure that freenode is the right side [17:55] CrystalMath but i mean for the past 2-3 days i am sure [17:55] schestowitz it's like glimpse to gimp [17:55] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Can ye describe in detail what ye did that they took the channel? I cannot use that anecdote otherwise. [17:55] CrystalMath i was 80% sure the entire time [17:55] schestowitz not libreoffice to openoffice.org [17:55] schestowitz glimpse is BS premise [17:55] CrystalMath XRevan86: i set the topic that we've chosen to stay on freenode, and later i set the RESTRICTED option for the channel [17:55] MinceR i can see at least 3 channels that are locked down (at least +m or +i, or ChanServ kickbanning everyone who enters) and have a message in topic about a move to libera [17:56] schestowitz let's start it anew... coz GIMP is "OFFENSIVE!" [17:56] schestowitz (who to???) [17:56] MinceR so it's an interesting way of "not being allowed" while it happens a lot [17:56] CrystalMath XRevan86: however there was one user who disagreed with that, and he just got staff to take it over [17:58] XRevan86 > Libera staff forcefully took over my channels there, saying that locking channels up and forwarding to freenode is not allowed; they also claim that it's not allowed to lock up channels and forward to libera on freenode [17:58] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Ye said it yourself that it's not allowed to lock a channel up. [17:59] XRevan86 it's not what hl did [17:59] CrystalMath XRevan86: honestly, there is no difference, either we don't lose channels due to opinions, or we do [17:59] CrystalMath and clearly we do [17:59] CrystalMath how we choose to redirect a channel is different [17:59] CrystalMath but it's irrelevant ● May 23 [18:00] schestowitz I think it's better not to mess with them or even log in there [18:00] schestowitz you up their user count [18:00] schestowitz and their channel count [18:00] schestowitz they use that to claim momentum [18:00] schestowitz I reckon they barely have 10k users there [18:00] XRevan86 CrystalMath: It's a false equivalency either way. [18:00] schestowitz but some lurk to see if that network gets off the ground at all [18:00] CrystalMath XRevan86: i hold it to be a true equivalency [18:00] schestowitz before putting all their eggs in that basket [18:01] CrystalMath correct schestowitz, i will refrain [18:01] CrystalMath i just wanted to see what they'll do with that channel [18:01] schestowitz let's talk about other things [18:01] schestowitz we're done with them [18:01] schestowitz the media is not helping them anymore [18:02] schestowitz maybe tomorrow we'll see some "KOREAN DICTATOR EATS BABIES" pieces from the media that also said RMS was literally Esptein [18:03] MinceR lol [18:03] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:05] CrystalMath schestowitz: also Ariadne said that i'm in favor of genocide, somehow, i just said that that's bullcrap but i don't know what that's about [18:05] CrystalMath she did not provide any evidence at all [18:06] trttl >i can see at least 3 channels that are locked down - there's even a wikipedia article encouraging people to do this [18:06] trttl https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC/Migrating_to_Libera_Chat#Closing_Freenode_channels [18:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meta.wikimedia.org | IRC/Migrating to Libera Chat - Meta [18:06] XRevan86 CrystalMath: We're talking about a network policy that is supposedly the same for both networks, two people did similiar but different things to their channels, and ye say these events are equivalent. [18:07] CrystalMath XRevan86: honestly, what is the point of holding a channel if you're gonna force the topic to tell people to go elsewhere? [18:07] CrystalMath i'm saying this against what i did on libera, yes, but... i mean, what i said makes sense [18:07] XRevan86 CrystalMath: We're talking about whether a policy justifies the actions taken. [18:07] CrystalMath https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/pull/513/commits/2037126831a84c57f97826 [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-policy update by realrasengan Pull Request #513 freenode/web-7.0 GitHub [18:09] CrystalMath XRevan86: it is against freenode policy (and libera policy) to squat channels or act in bad faith towards freenode [18:09] XRevan86 CrystalMath: Good point, but this policy revision is anachronistic. [18:11] rasengan Theres a massive similar debate happening in freenode-policy-feedback CrystalMath I think your experience at Libera would be well heard from the participants! [18:12] XRevan86 But that there's a policy update is good. [18:12] schestowitz non-aggression pacts LOL [18:15] techrights-bot The #patent maximalists, funded by EPO and other thugs, keep berating officials that care for people and patients instead of #patents https://www.iam-media.com/iam-saturday-opinion-schindler-turning-points [18:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Six questions for an IP market at a critical turning point | IAM [18:17] techrights-bot "Chinese companies have filed the most number of patents in 2020 at the European Patent Office." It's not European, and it's not even obeying the law https://www.chiplawgroup.com/what-is-likely-to-drive-chinese-patent-filings-in-the-coming-years/ [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chiplawgroup.com | What is Likely to Drive Chinese Patent Filings in the Coming Years? | CHIP LAW GROUP [18:19] techrights-bot A firm of chronic liars is #lobbying for #patents on nature and on life as though these are #inventions https://www.bristows.com/news/crispr-cas9-from-nobel-prizes-to-priority/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP [18:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CRISPR-Cas9 from Nobel prizes to priority - Bristows [18:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bristows LLP - Techrights [18:21] techrights-bot "Attorneys should educate themselves on the practices of individual courts and judges" sounds like manipulative tactics, maybe even ways to select judges and courts one can control and corrupt https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxwqk3cqn4dz/counsel-reveal-top-strategies-for-snagging-summary-judgments [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Counsel reveal top strategies for snagging summary judgments | Managing Intellectual Property [18:22] MinceR make that 'at least 4 channels' [18:23] schestowitz so far libera has come across (to me) as less friendly and professional than freenode [18:23] schestowitz they just reinforce our decision to stick around here [18:23] schestowitz [18:05] schestowitz: also Ariadne said that i'm in favor of genocide, somehow, i just said that that's bullcrap but i don't know what that's about [18:23] schestowitz seems like low-grade demonisation [18:23] schestowitz I know CrystalMath has little will to live past 30 [18:23] schestowitz but that's a personal choice [18:24] schestowitz and accusation from one who has suicidal tendencies too [18:24] schestowitz I think MinceR is more like that description [18:24] schestowitz but not genocide [18:24] CrystalMath honestly i'm not so sure about that anymore :P [18:24] CrystalMath maybe 50 [18:24] schestowitz rather, human population being naturally powered over tome [18:24] CrystalMath i'm nearing 30, so... [18:24] CrystalMath :P [18:24] MinceR humans will kill themselves off without artificial help anyway :> [18:24] schestowitz and Steve Jobs "die in a fire" [18:25] CrystalMath i must have been very depresed to say 30 [18:25] schestowitz CrystalMath: some people suggested applying for it every decade [18:25] scientes MinceR, yes [18:25] scientes MinceR, unless they destroy the ring [18:25] schestowitz "justify your existence" panels [18:25] MinceR long term survival of the species requires a level of intelligence and civilization humanity keeps advertising itself as having, but which it does not actually have [18:26] schestowitz case of point, libera, cheat [18:26] schestowitz taking the domain [18:26] schestowitz then moaning about "hostile takeover" [18:26] schestowitz like, wtf? [18:26] MinceR they will try to pray the asteroid away [18:26] scientes schestowitz, you mean group shaming? [18:26] scientes like Mao's Red Army? [18:26] schestowitz not sure what that means [18:27] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXipfCKUoo [18:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ritual Public Shaming - YouTube [18:28] scientes MinceR, oh you are right, I said CCCP when I meant CCP [18:28] MinceR :> [18:29] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaz8sVaK8s4 [18:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mao's Red Guards - YouTube [18:30] MinceR i'm just reading about how extremely maoist the "university" fidSS is fighting so hard to have in budapest is [18:31] MinceR (fidSS postures as a heroic "anticommunist" party) [18:40] schestowitz where everyone not like them is "communist" [18:40] schestowitz and likewise we have people who call us fascists [18:40] schestowitz us as in.. [18:41] schestowitz people in the community not "woke"(TM) in the corporate sense [18:41] schestowitz fascistic corporations [18:41] schestowitz that lecture us [18:41] schestowitz tribalism has been weaponised everywhere [18:44] techrights-bot Misleading Invoices: Four Years Behind Bars! https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1071188/misleading-invoices-four-years-behind-bars "offering a service seem to come from the BOIP, EUIPO, WIPO" [18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Misleading Invoices: Four Years Behind Bars! - Intellectual Property - Luxembourg [18:45] techrights-bot Second Sight Medical trades higher on news of #patent win https://seekingalpha.com/news/3699183-second-sight-medical-trades-higher-on-news-of-patent-win [18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://seekingalpha.com/news/3699183-second-sight-medical-trades-higher-on-news-of-patent-win ) [18:50] techrights-bot "Managing IP speaks to a division of pharma company Servier," but as usual it fails to speak to anyone but the most extreme elements, such as the litigation 'industry' and #patent trolls. Bias is their product. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rxt875b9cyzv/eutm-data-french-figures-show-unique-pharma-tm-conundrum [18:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | EUTM data: French figures show unique pharma TM conundrum | Managing Intellectual Property [18:55] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [18:55] techrights-bot The world's most ludicrous law https://spicyip.com/2021/05/walking-the-tightrope-of-the-right-to-be-forgotten-analyzing-the-delhi-hcs-recent-order.html #censorship [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Walking the Tightrope of the Right to be Forgotten: Analysing the Delhi HCs Recent Order | SpicyIP [18:55] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ooednybcrwhmpaji) has joined #techrights [18:57] techrights-bot The #EPO cannot obey even the most basic laws https://dp-patentlaw.blogspot.com/2021/05/t-225515-can-board-of-appeal-disregard.html see http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dp-patentlaw.blogspot.com | DeltaPatents : Case Law [18:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | Techrights [18:59] techrights-bot Militant vegans... with their "AYE PEE" #law https://www.thefashionlaw.com/by-chloe-founder-is-suing-bain-capital-and-other-investors-for-trademark-infringement-over-her-name/ [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/by-chloe-founder-is-suing-bain-capital-and-other-investors-for-trademark-infringement-over-her-name/ ) ● May 23 [19:00] MinceR eye pee [19:00] schestowitz pop eye [19:03] techrights-bot #Libreboot Sees First New Release In Nearly 5 Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151505#comment-29732 #gnu #freesw [19:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Libreboot 20210522 released! | Tux Machines [19:04] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:04] techrights-bot Sunday Section - May 23, another round-up of #GNU #Linux and #gaming topics https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/sunday-section-may-23-another-roundup-of-linux-and-gaming-topics [19:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sunday Section - May 23, another round-up of Linux and gaming topics | GamingOnLinux [19:07] techrights-bot #RockPi 4 Plus SBC gets Rockchip OP1 processor, eMMC flash pre-loaded with Twister OS Armbian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151488#comment-29733 #gnu #linux [19:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rock Pi SBCs move to 2GHz RK3399 and toss in free eMMC | Tux Machines [19:08] *search_social (~search_so@99-112-18-250.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [19:10] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [19:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.43 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 5.48 swarm size (avg): 228.32 [19:17] acer-box https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1396408515711864832#m [19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "are you a marginalized person? were you wondering if freenode was still going to be safe for you? as we can tell from this new policy update, the answer is a resounding NO." | nitter [19:19] techrights-bot #Rock Pi 4 Plus SBC gets Rockchip OP1 processor, eMMC flash pre-loaded with Twister OS Armbian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151508 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rock Pi 4 Plus SBC gets Rockchip OP1 processor, eMMC flash pre-loaded with Twister OS Armbian | Tux Machines [19:20] techrights-bot Top 10 reasons to install #elementaryOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151507 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 10 reasons to install elementary OS | Tux Machines [19:21] XRevan86 acer-box: Seems like redundant wording removed, nothing to worry about. [19:22] XRevan86 A lot of confirmation bias going on. [19:22] techrights-bot 3 reasons to learn #Java in 2021 | https://opensource.com/article/21/5/java #FreeSW #RedHat #programming | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/23/#latest [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 reasons to learn Java in 2021 | Opensource.com [19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [19:23] techrights-bot #KDE Goals Update May 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151509 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Goals Update May 2021 | Tux Machines [19:28] XRevan86 Not sure that reviewing policies right now is good timing though. [19:29] XRevan86 I think it's better to reaffirm people that the network is operating in a stable manner by a staff that can maintain the same order. [19:30] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151511 #Linux #TuxMachines [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:30] techrights-bot Best #EPUB Readers For Linux In 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151510 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best EPUB Readers For Linux In 2021 | Tux Machines [19:31] XRevan86 I.e. it's better to first give people the taste of how the staff operates to understand it better only then to introduce policy changes that could be possibly misinterpreted to cause FUD. [19:35] XRevan86 With that said, I really hope this really is misinterpreted and Freenode isn't going to open the floodgates to all kinds of statements, like incitement of violence and threats. [19:35] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:35] techrights-bot "Stephan Kinsella is an incredible scholar of the Austrian school of praxeology, his major contribution is the advancement of the arguments in favor of property of scarce goods, and against intellectual property of non-scarce goods." https://www.stephankinsella.com/paf-podcast/kol337-wasabikas-15-you-dont-own-bitcoin/ [19:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stephankinsella.com | KOL337 | Join the Wasabikas Ep. 15.0: You Dont Own BitcoinProperty Rights, Praxeology and the Foundations of Private Law, with Max Hillebrand [19:42] techrights-bot Anastasiia Kyrylenko continues posting ads for #CEIPI even though it is run by a criminal http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/sunday-surprises_23.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CEIPI and http://techrights.org/wiki/Beno%C3%AEt_Battistelli [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sunday Surprises - The IPKat [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | CEIPI - Techrights [19:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Benot Battistelli - Techrights [19:45] techrights-bot 2 new comments on #ibm not having much work https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYOBAse#replies [19:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Not enough work - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:46] techrights-bot "the #IBM US pension fund is well fund but IBM has been adding to the overseas pension funds" the IBM US pension fund is well fund but IBM has been adding to the overseas pension funds [19:46] techrights-bot "the #IBM US pension fund is well fund but IBM has been adding to the overseas pension funds" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aY56fW7#replies [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Pension - post regarding IBM layoffs [19:46] XRevan86 English Meduza still hasn't covered the Minsk incident [19:47] XRevan86 something happened today which was so bizarre I won't try to summarise it [19:47] baronhk[m]1 HTTPS Everywhere? [19:47] XRevan86 I need a good article [19:47] MinceR i don't mind the removal of SJW bullshit from policy ASAP [19:49] trttl what's even the point. channels are managed by their own ops. if you don't like a channel just part and join a different one [19:49] XRevan86 https://amsnbc.com/belarus-activist-arrested-after-his-plane-makes-emergency-landing-in-minsk/ will do [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Belarus: Activist arrested after his plane makes emergency landing in Minsk | AMSNBC.com [19:51] schestowitz happened before [19:51] schestowitz you threaten planes to land sometimes [19:51] schestowitz just to kidnap or scare political enemies [19:53] XRevan86 A foolish journalist didn't check that his flight was over Belarus' [19:53] XRevan86 will get executed now [19:54] XRevan86 a deadly mistake [19:55] schestowitz so the "value add" of libera [sic] is that when baronhk[m]1 (Ryan) says racist things we can lose the whole channel? [19:55] schestowitz wouldn't that be intolerant to gays? [19:55] schestowitz as ryan is gay? [19:55] trttl a gaycist? [19:55] schestowitz those political "marginalised" groups thing is subjective [19:55] schestowitz there are many indians and chinese in the world [19:56] schestowitz but those rules are codified to make them marganised groups [19:56] baronhk[m]1 Liberate your chat with Matrix.org [19:56] schestowitz and the general direction of such policies is driven by a particular agenda, which varies across groups [19:56] baronhk[m]1 :) [19:56] trttl those kind of policies are just used as weapons. some want to destroy a place while they leave by reporting you to whoever that has the authority to make you suffer for their misery [19:57] baronhk[m]1 Collective punishment is in style. [19:57] schestowitz 2 years ago in kubecon linux foundation banned some idiot dude [19:57] schestowitz because someone who had called ALL men stuff complained [19:58] trttl snitch society literally. people stalk each other take notes report everything like if it was a sport to them [19:58] schestowitz women are the majority in the world's population BTW [19:58] schestowitz so those policies will be misused [19:58] baronhk[m]1 Facebook apparently bans people who say all men are pigs. [19:58] baronhk[m]1 According to someone who complained about them in /r/facebook. [19:58] schestowitz rigthly so [19:58] schestowitz pigs are nice [19:58] schestowitz and it's wrong to offend pigs [19:58] schestowitz pigs are quite harmless [19:59] schestowitz Zuck can sympathise with them [19:59] schestowitz he doesn't eat pork [19:59] MinceR "marginalized" simply means "whomever we want to prop up" [19:59] schestowitz sometimes, maybe... [19:59] schestowitz but it misses the point [19:59] schestowitz it's like "antisemitism" [19:59] schestowitz which then extends to pro-Palestinian statehood ● May 23 [20:00] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU [20:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In full: Rowan Atkinson on free speech - YouTube [20:00] schestowitz man arrested for calling a horse "gay" [20:00] trttl never clicked on a 'report this' link in my life [20:00] schestowitz I did when I saw violent threats [20:01] schestowitz like people calling for crashing in protesters and stuff [20:01] schestowitz or death threats [20:01] schestowitz *into [20:01] MinceR i've reported spam on a site a few times already [20:02] schestowitz spam does not count as a censorship issue [20:02] schestowitz it's a spam/vandalism issue [20:02] schestowitz categorically unfit [20:03] techrights-bot #MaboxLinux 21.06-RC1 is released https://maboxlinux.org/ [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-maboxlinux.org | MaboxLinux | fast, lightweight and functional Linux Desktop [20:04] MinceR s/prop up/have human rights/ [20:08] techrights-bot Clown Gaming: Is it Going Anywhere? (Survey Results) https://boilingsteam.com/cloud-gaming-is-it-going-anywhere-survey-results/ [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Cloud Gaming: Is it Going Anywhere? (Survey Results) - Boiling Steam [20:12] schestowitz MinceR: not always [20:12] schestowitz it's an oversimpliciation [20:12] schestowitz because some of them don't lack human rifghts [20:12] schestowitz just respect [20:12] schestowitz which is not the same thing [20:13] schestowitz and in the context of many 'western' thing a religion with about 2 billion people isn "minority" [20:13] schestowitz or a nation with the world's most people [20:13] schestowitz whose own domestic regime doesn't give them human rights [20:14] techrights-bot #The Shutter Screenshot Tool Finally Ported to GTK3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151514 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Shutter Screenshot Tool Finally Ported to GTK3 | Tux Machines [20:15] techrights-bot #Games : GamingOnLinux, Cloud Gaming, and Steam on #ChromeOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151513 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GamingOnLinux, Cloud Gaming, and Steam on ChromeOS | Tux Machines [20:15] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151512 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:17] techrights-bot "Today, we're going to take a look at the last major desktop environment that I have never really touched, and that's XFCE. This is the first video in a series that will cover the desktop, the default apps, and the customization options." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I77ZSpMh9U [20:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-First experience with XFCE - YouTube [20:17] techrights-bot "Sometimes, I ramble on for long periods of time in front of the camera. Today's video is a great example of this. I read a viewer email that asks several important questions regarding transitioning from "noob" to "power user", if distros matter, and if desktop environments matter." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyG7XzOa2xQ [20:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Are "Mainstream" Linux Distros Better? - YouTube [20:19] techrights-bot "Today marks the 90th day of me joining Canonical to work on Ubuntu full-time! So since its been a while already, this blog post is long due. :)" https://utkarsh2102.com/posts/hello-canonical/ [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hello, Canonical! o/ utkarsh2102 [20:20] techrights-bot Megis #PinePhone kernel updates bring battery life, performance improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151515 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Megis PinePhone kernel updates bring battery life, performance improvements | Tux Machines [20:23] techrights-bot "Intel 3rd Gen Xeon Scalable "ice Lake" processors are not affected by Meltdown, MDS, L1TF, ITLB Multihit, SRBDS, or TAA, but do still require kernel protections involving Spectre V1/V2/V4." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Xeon-ICL-Mitigation-Toggle [20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Toggling Spectre Mitigations On Xeon Scalable Ice Lake Show Little Runtime Difference - Phoronix [20:24] techrights-bot #microsoft #patents or #swpats traps based in https://bkhome.org/news/202105/kernel-51039-compiled-with-paragon-ntfs3-driver.html [20:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Kernel 5.10.39 compiled with Paragon ntfs3 driver [20:26] techrights-bot Kernel hacker Brendan Gregg: "When I was a performance consultant I'd show up to random companies who wanted me to fix their computer performance issues. If they trusted me with a login to their production servers, I could help them a lot quicker" http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2021-05-23/what-is-observability.html [20:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.brendangregg.com | What is Observability [20:29] techrights-bot "You can imagine the microprocessors needed to control all of this are pretty minimal. The team used an Arduino, I'd opt for the Raspberry Pi Pico, but you could use whatever you wanted - it's not a difficult control problem." https://www.i-programmer.info/news/190-augmentedvirtual-reality-arvr/14591-the-floor-moves.html [20:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.i-programmer.info | The Floor Moves! [20:30] techrights-bot Wrong. Misleading. #apple is the Admin. Even the buyer is just a Guest. https://www.alphr.com/create-admin-mac-terminal/ #proprietarySoftware #serfs [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.alphr.com | How to Create an Admin Account in the Mac Terminal [20:31] techrights-bot #Ethereum Closes In on Long-Sought Fix to Cut Energy Use Over 99% https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-23/ethereum-closes-in-on-long-sought-fix-to-cut-energy-use-over-99 [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [20:32] techrights-bot "KDEs approach is so much better and more sane than the CSDs in GNOME. CSDs have wreaked havoc in the world of GTK desktops, with Xfce in particular suffering hard due to its use of Xfwm" https://www.osnews.com/story/133418/window-decorations-revisited-or-using-the-right-tool-for-the-job/ [20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Window decorations revisited (or: using the right tool for the job) OSnews [20:34] techrights-bot Gemini meetup? https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006563.html #geminiSpace #geminiProtocol #internet [20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini meetup? [20:35] schestowitz Not everyone is in USA or the same state of USA/X Nation [20:35] schestowitz Profanity is a simple XMMP client - https://profanity-im.github.io/ [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-profanity-im.github.io | Profanity, a console based XMPP client - Home [20:35] schestowitz Also I recommend avoiding Freednode + Libre chat IRC server [20:35] schestowitz you dont get free speech on it, its the same "woke" censorship [20:35] schestowitz from https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006568.html [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 22, Issue 25 [20:35] schestowitz moments ago [20:36] schestowitz the other parts suggestive of trollin [20:36] schestowitz past moderation [20:36] schestowitz https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006571.html [20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 22, Issue 25 [20:36] schestowitz " [20:36] schestowitz I expect most gemini enthusiasts already agree with you on this. There [20:36] schestowitz is a strong connection with FOSS. [20:36] schestowitz The rest of your email is about various unrelated beliefs of yours. I [20:37] schestowitz would ask you to try staying on-topic. [20:37] schestowitz Note that the above is not meant as a plea to "keep politics out of [20:37] schestowitz Gemini" or something. Gemini has some political implications - to some [20:37] schestowitz extent it works against the adtech industry and furthers free speech. It [20:37] schestowitz is meant instead as a plea to keep this list about Gemini. [20:37] schestowitz Also, why quote the whole digest? [20:37] schestowitz " [20:37] schestowitz so libera gets a reputation for censorship and freenode too? [20:38] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21041642 [20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5398868) [20:40] schestowitz no teeth in this game [20:40] schestowitz your humour is getting RUSTY, MinceR [20:40] MinceR :> [20:40] schestowitz bite me! [20:40] schestowitz ... [20:43] techrights-bot He will be MISSED! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_fcWKE4UJs [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pep Guardiola breaks down into tears speaking about Sergio Aguero leaving Manchester City - YouTube [20:44] techrights-bot George #Carlin- "Everyday Expressions" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHhYLJMi7CE [20:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin- "Everyday Expressions" - YouTube [20:47] techrights-bot #geminiSpace mailing list being trolled? "Also I recommend avoiding Freednode + Libre [sic] chat IRC server you dont get free speech on it, its the same "woke" censorship" ists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006568.html [20:50] techrights-bot This is a very, very major scandal but the rascals who run this #EPO #propaganda site, #ManagingIP , run "sponsored content" about it, diluting the signal (about the scandal https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rwqmgn9npmgy/germany-eba-set-to-hear-case-on-the-legality-of-the-epos-video-proceedings see http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Germany: EBA set to hear case on the legality of the EPOs video proceedings | Managing Intellectual Property [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 17: The External Members: Evangelos Chatzikos and Richard Arnold | Techrights [20:52] rasengan https://www.theregister.com/2003/01/29/buy_a_piece_of_net/ Interesting. :o [20:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Buy a piece of Net nostalgia for $5,000 The Register [20:53] trttl lol [20:54] techrights-bot #ManagingIP or #ManagingIntellectualProperty quit being about anything that even remotely resembles #journalism because there's more money in being a deceiving #thinktank and misleading rag than in reporting news of importance. [20:54] schestowitz by Kieren McCarthy [20:54] schestowitz nice guy [20:54] schestowitz he helped expose SLAPP against me [20:54] schestowitz and spent years covering EPO corruption [20:55] schestowitz sometimes with tips fron me [20:55] MinceR lol [20:55] schestowitz They make fun of him but he died tragically [20:55] schestowitz so not so funny in retrospect [20:56] trttl yeah rip lt. levin [20:56] schestowitz keep freenode going [20:57] schestowitz that's what he would have wanted [20:57] trttl rasengan should buy up all the irc networks and merge them into one. we could go back to 1988 [20:58] rasengan agreed schestowitz [20:58] techrights-bot In the coming days #epo management will bombard the media with lies and spam to distract from the absolutely horrific things happening inside the EPO, inc. stacked/kangaroo courts. http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/evangelos-chatzikos-and-richard-arnold/ [20:59] schestowitz trttl: I joined when it was about 5 [20:59] schestowitz dalnet was "where it was at" [20:59] trttl i remember dalnet. lots of warez and ddos [20:59] schestowitz yes ● May 23 [21:00] schestowitz people used to flood channels for the 'lols' [21:00] schestowitz I was new to all this [21:00] MinceR most irc networks are not "owned" as such [21:00] schestowitz they are all owned in some sense [21:00] schestowitz domain and all [21:01] MinceR usually each server is owned by different people [21:01] schestowitz the question is, what are the owners(s)' motivations [21:01] MinceR and often the servers are on their own domains [21:01] schestowitz PIA has credit card details [21:01] schestowitz or similar [21:01] schestowitz so they can map used to ID [21:02] schestowitz inc. in IRC [21:02] schestowitz but I saw no evidence of Kape looking to go dodgy like that again [21:02] schestowitz if I see it, I will head for the door [21:03] schestowitz starpage did that with systems1 [21:03] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Startpage [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Startpage - Techrights [21:03] schestowitz so did waterfox [21:05] trttl >usually each server is owned by different people - true but servers can be delinked, pulled out, new servers pushed in. in the end the person/entity who owns the trademark owns the network [21:05] *ChanServ has quit (shutting down) [21:07] techrights-bot Somewhat belated #EPO #spam will look to capitalise on actual scientists (i.e. not EPO autocrats) to distract from EPO #corruption ; they pay the media about 10 million euros to play along with this dirty games https://health.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/industry/european-inventor-award-nominates-sumita-mitra-as-a-finalist-in-the-non-epo-countries/82389329 see http://techrights.org/2021/05/04/epo-eia-hush-money/ [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-health.economictimes.indiatimes.com | chemist: European Inventor Award nominates Sumita Mitra as a finalist in the Non-EPO countries, Health News, ET HealthWorld [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Already Wasting Money on Media Manipulation Campaigns for European Inventor Award | Techrights [21:07] *ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #techrights [21:07] *barjavel.freenode.net gives channel operator status to ChanServ [21:07] schestowitz our channel sucks so much that eben chanserv left [21:09] CrystalMath it came back :) [21:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: They say that a MiG-29 was also sent for the plane with the journalist. [21:10] schestowitz way to scare them [21:11] schestowitz iirc, meduza is still riga-based [21:11] schestowitz not too far from minsk [21:11] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [21:11] schestowitz putin loves having people inside airports [21:11] schestowitz even snowden [21:11] schestowitz kept him in one for several weeks [21:11] XRevan86 schestowitz: Politically very far :) [21:11] schestowitz before doing something with him [21:11] schestowitz found a purpose for snowden [21:12] schestowitz navalny didn't even cost him in food bills (for a while) [21:12] XRevan86 but yea, crossing the border through Belarus' or Russia is a possibility [21:12] MinceR > who owns the trademark owns the network [21:12] MinceR i doubt most irc networks have registered their trademark [21:12] schestowitz trademark are fake ownership [21:12] XRevan86 I guess they meant the domain name. [21:12] schestowitz and it's transient [21:13] schestowitz don't ask lawyers [21:13] schestowitz they just want to sell fake "assets" [21:13] schestowitz "intangible" [21:13] XRevan86 In Freenode's case the domain name is what determined who's in charge. [21:13] MinceR that's disputed :> [21:13] schestowitz and when there is a dispute they say you need to hire them.. for "enforcement" [21:13] XRevan86 MinceR: That is? [21:14] trttl you don't necessarily need an (r). [tm]s are also protected [21:14] schestowitz freeNO.de [21:14] schestowitz AfD [21:14] MinceR well, the former staff (or at least some of them) claimed that since they do the work, the network rightfully belongs to them [21:14] MinceR regardless of who owns the domain [21:14] MinceR and from what i've heard, they're hoping that the sponsors who provide the servers will hand the servers to them [21:15] schestowitz maybe they interpret staff as stakeholder [21:15] schestowitz or shareholder even [21:15] XRevan86 MinceR: And now they're making a new network. [21:15] schestowitz but that's like saying that when I post in Twitter I own it [21:15] MinceR they're way too obsessed with power [21:15] schestowitz or in Ubuntu Forums [21:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.78 swarm size (avg): 228.40 [21:16] schestowitz by slapping copyleft one verything you can avert a lot of mess and dispute [21:16] schestowitz everyone owns everything [21:16] schestowitz then it's down to skills and creds [21:17] MinceR then hellwig v vmware happens and the biggest megacorporations own everything [21:17] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::ff0c) has joined #techrights [21:17] MinceR the legal system is rigged against the people [21:17] XRevan86 They also say he won't actually be executed, 15 years maximum. [21:18] schestowitz MinceR: like LF is [21:18] MinceR yup [21:18] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/ [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | Techrights [21:18] schestowitz they buy front groups [21:18] schestowitz which pretend to be "community" [21:18] schestowitz or "linux" [21:18] schestowitz when actually they front for those attacking linux [21:18] XRevan86 https://t.me/worldprotest/12585 the flight path [21:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-t.me | Telegram: Contact @worldprotest [21:18] schestowitz or violating the "rights" associate with the code [21:18] schestowitz LF-SCO [21:19] schestowitz XRevan86: darn, no explosions [21:20] trttl >since they do the work, the network rightfully belongs to them - that's like saying the jannies are the rightful owners of 4chan [21:20] MinceR :> [21:20] MinceR well, i guess there's a less charitable interpretation of what they said [21:20] MinceR which is that the network rightfully belongs to them because they voted so, among themselves [21:20] XRevan86 Because the plane was at that time in Belarus' it had to turn around to land in Minsk instead of going to Vilnius which was technically closer. [21:21] techrights-bot Early retirements from #ibm ... to avoid being sacked https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1aYfLMf0#replies [21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | High salary, but promotion never comes - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:21] MinceR the explosions would have happened if the plane refused to land in lukasenka's kingdom [21:21] MinceR 23 221848 <+XRevan86> https://t.me/worldprotest/12585 the flight path [21:22] MinceR useless link [21:22] schestowitz RT would blame buk missle [21:22] MinceR insists on running xdg-open [21:22] XRevan86 MinceR: Ignore that [21:22] schestowitz RT would not blame a machine gun of a jet [21:22] XRevan86 (I wonder why Firefox doesn't do that) [21:22] schestowitz it's a cruise missile or surface-to-air when it suits RT [21:22] XRevan86 MinceR: Or use a better browser, I don't know %) [21:23] MinceR oh, i need to unblock 9001 domains [21:23] MinceR and it will ask me to run xdg-open at every single step [21:23] MinceR oh, i love the "modern" web so much [21:23] schestowitz it's not the web [21:23] schestowitz it's www with some crap on top of it [21:23] schestowitz INNOVA~1 [21:23] schestowitz and you don't get to reject that crap [21:23] schestowitz if they do, more site would just block you now [21:24] schestowitz Red Hat 'Developer' blog no longer works without JS [21:24] MinceR video link >> https://cdn4.telesco.pe/file/916eea87d2.mp4?token=Si2lRoagMWDNH19K3ipVAK6Jg2qEkPZy1fXBWBqUA7MjSfLsvL9R10fVPA_gDMK7GB6-9goIiKJA8ZUeKirIYc2yd6y9bcJ8gx181E5SFv0F3jXHim8cj0BDtGPIVHNvVMhapZrx6Noaok0wLGy8aAHsNT0CEXe7UxvEuC5wItbnAdtrfMrLIYgC4DE_PC0wAji-65BxFWTi31lbThvQ6EP8Jt3cI8EVAfOqs_Rx9V4ak83PbjlI-HLhHnrBtMNRFtxQkzocnZNt2-OxmKbIMZ-2VDQuGYbgSb0Mq9A3VB2c4GFXsm6LemFgt3-et-sLpjynYklYfIfZMvFjvja1pA [21:24] schestowitz the only 'hack' is reading it over rss feed [21:24] schestowitz MinceR: big token [21:24] MinceR yeah [21:24] schestowitz is that like a chess game? [21:24] MinceR if you can't make it good, at least make it big [21:24] schestowitz "i c what u did zer" [21:25] MinceR maybe it works without the token [21:25] schestowitz [21:24] if you can't make it good, at least make it big [21:25] schestowitz or aim for little girls [21:25] schestowitz said Mr. Gates and Jeff [21:26] MinceR :> [21:26] schestowitz Ref: [21:26] schestowitz "If you cant make it good, at least make it look good." [21:26] schestowitz Bill Gates, Microsoft [21:26] MinceR he never managed to do that [21:26] schestowitz micro-soft looks better compared to... never mind [21:26] schestowitz he should have become a priest [21:26] MinceR :> [21:27] MinceR seems to me most of society tolerates his crimes even if he isn't a priest [21:27] MinceR he just had to scam together a lot of money [21:27] MinceR and bribe a lot of people [21:27] schestowitz media esp. [21:27] schestowitz even bribed my boss [21:27] schestowitz not that it worked [21:28] schestowitz I'm PRETTY sure it was a bribe [21:28] schestowitz no other reason/explanation.... and the timing [21:28] schestowitz it's also suspicious the timing they offered kaniini a job [21:28] schestowitz exactly same day we received explosive material on Microsoft [21:28] schestowitz inc. about their bribery http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ [21:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [21:29] schestowitz to kaniini's credit, she turned that down [21:30] schestowitz that series led to formal complaints [21:31] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/17/edps-farce/ [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Breaking News: EDPS Admits That It is Powerless to Investigate Claims of GDPR Non-compliance at the EPO | Techrights [21:36] *guysoft42 (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:f5b3:56dd:2dc0:f723) has joined #techrights [21:37] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151517 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:38] techrights-bot #Kernel (Linux), #Graphics and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151516 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel (Linux), Graphics and More | Tux Machines [21:39] techrights-bot Links 23/5/2021: New #Libreboot Release and #KDE Goals Update http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/gnu-libreboot-release/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/23/gnu-libreboot-release/ [21:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 23/5/2021: New Libreboot Release and KDE Goals Update | Techrights [21:41] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/f-droid-spotlight-infinity-for-reddit/ [21:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | F-Droid Spotlight: Infinity for Reddit BaronHK's Rants [21:42] techrights-bot "An open letter in support of Richard Matthew Stallman being reinstated by the Free Software Foundation" now at 6,707. If it reaches 6,800 it'll take several more weeks, maybe one month. #fsf #neverForget #cancelCulture #CorporateCoup #DontFuckWithTheCommunity [21:50] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [21:51] *tagglink has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:52] schestowitz I am going to release part 18 early... [21:52] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: you're blogging like a motor, I like that :-) [21:54] baronhk[m]1 My next one is how companies like Facebook track you through Android apps that seem relatively harmless. [21:54] baronhk[m]1 This one may take a while to write, but I'm saving drafts as I go. [21:55] *tagglink (~tagglink@81-225-66-103-no2810.tbcn.telia.com) has joined #techrights [21:56] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: I'm talking about Grindr too in this post. [21:56] baronhk[m]1 And how they send your HIV status to Facebook. ● May 23 [22:00] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21041619 [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5398132) [22:02] schestowitz baronhk[m]1: grindr also sends hiv from person to person [22:02] schestowitz but that's a whole different issue [22:02] schestowitz all those promiscuous "apps" [22:02] baronhk[m]1 It's not really to blame. I mean, everyone knows HIV is out there. [22:02] schestowitz "virus" [22:07] schestowitz "Would a dating service on the net be frowned upon . . . ? I hope not. But even if it is, dont let that stop you from notifying me via net mail if you start one." Richard Stallman [22:10] baronhk[m]1 I delved into some of the problems with Grindr for a couple of paragraphs. [22:10] baronhk[m]1 And its interaction and data feed into Facebook. [22:21] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: "Apples App Tracking Transparency feature isnt enough, and while I do indeed believe that Facebook is pissed, as long as you use their apps, load pages with their trackers in them, and run seemingly unrelated apps that share data with them, its not going to prevent them from learning about you. In fact, most of what they know isnt even from the trackers they inject elsewhere. Its what peop [22:21] baronhk[m]1 them. [22:21] baronhk[m]1 Where they check-in at, what they say their birthday is, what they say their hobbies are. When you use your phone number or email address with someone else, they can feed data into Facebook. You can shut one door, theyll open three others. Its sort of what they do." [22:21] baronhk[m]1 Part of the post. [22:22] *opal is now known as raisin_gang [22:22] baronhk[m]1 No, better. "It's sort of what they do. It's all they do. (Kyle Reese on the Terminator)" [22:23] *raisin_gang is now known as opal [22:31] schestowitz CrystalMath: do you know Semlin (Zemun)? [22:31] CrystalMath no [22:32] schestowitz I am typing up soemthing that mentions it [22:32] CrystalMath Zemun is a town near belgrade [22:32] CrystalMath oh [22:32] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemun [22:32] CrystalMath i thought it was a nickname [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Zemun - Wikipedia [22:32] CrystalMath :P [22:32] CrystalMath i know the town [22:32] schestowitz any connection to Zemlin surname? [22:32] CrystalMath the demonym in serbian for that place would be "zemunac" [22:32] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/18-Nikolaus-Obrovski-Senior-Sudetenpost-1977.png [22:33] CrystalMath ah yes [22:33] CrystalMath Semlin is the german name for the town [22:33] CrystalMath as you know, all of Vojvodina used to be Austria-Hungary [22:33] schestowitz yeah [22:33] CrystalMath towns continued to have official german names until the end of WW2 [22:33] schestowitz "According to an obituary published in the Sudetenpost in 1977, Obrovski (Senior) came from Semlin (Zemun), now a suburb of the Serbian capital Belgrade, but formerly part of the territory of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (prior to 1918). " [22:34] schestowitz From my draft [22:34] schestowitz Schestau also [22:34] CrystalMath schestowitz: after WW2 people didn't want german names anymore, for obvious reasons :P [22:35] CrystalMath for towns i mean [22:35] schestowitz maybe jim zemlin is of Danube Swabian roots? [22:35] CrystalMath i don't know this Jim Zemlin but maybe [22:38] schestowitz we could find some wormholes [22:38] schestowitz not so flatterning ones [22:38] schestowitz LF says it's against racism [22:38] schestowitz IBM pays them for it [22:39] schestowitz "During the Second World War, he is reputed to have worked as a journalist for the newspaper, Novo Vreme, which was the main propaganda organ of the Serbian collaboration government under General Milan Nedi. In cooperation with German agencies and local publishers, the paper took part in anti-Semitic and anti-communist propaganda campaigns." [22:41] techrights-bot We are about to release a long part of the #epo series about its 'PR nazis' (I don't use the N work lightly). They will be very busy in the coming days/week... [22:49] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● May 23 [23:11] schestowitz CrystalMath: article ready [23:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | Techrights [23:11] schestowitz see if you can spot mistakes, errors, typos... [23:12] baronhk[m]1 https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/google-play-spotlight-gasbuddy-grindr-or-how-i-informed-facebook-using-android-f-droid-spotlight-trackercontrol/ [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Google Play Spotlight: GasBuddy, Grindr, or how I informed Facebook using Android. F-Droid Spotlight: TrackerControl. BaronHK's Rants [23:15] techrights-bot The EPOs War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ #Haar #EPO #corruption [23:16] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [23:17] schestowitz rasengan: ping [23:17] schestowitz someone shared with me something said elsewhere, unsourced and out of context: [23:17] schestowitz href: Some communities have lost site of their mission and are engaged in a campaign to fracture the FOSS community. We're attempting to solicit feedback from the community to incorporate better policies to help keep the FOSS community whole. [23:18] schestowitz Can you clarify what was meant by this to remove doubt? Clearly, different people interpret this differently [23:22] baronhk[m]1 The "Human Rights Campaign" was basically whoring itself out to right-wing politics to get corporate money. [23:22] baronhk[m]1 And it backfired when people saw them supporting politicians that they didn't want and who were/are anti-gay. [23:29] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: Added, "Ive heard that straight dating apps dont treat people much better, and that now, people are being snookered into telling the app whether theyve had a Coronavirus vaccine in exchange for being baited by having additional swipes or something stupid like that turned on for a little while. The government often bypasses its own laws by buying data that it cant otherwise legally colle [23:29] baronhk[m]1 news admits that the Biden Administration is involved with this. Hmm." [23:31] baronhk[m]1 "Now you may not be able to even match with someone on a dating app unless youve taken a vaccine thats only authorized under an Emergency Use Waiver." [23:32] techrights-bot [Meme] Judges in #Haar Must Behave Themselves http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/spying-on-unions-and-judges/ #EPO #europe #surveillance [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Judges in Haar Must Behave Themselves | Techrights [23:32] *tr_guest|59611 (519aa9a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.154.169.167) has joined #techrights [23:32] baronhk[m]1 "I'm not antivax, but I think that it would be more appropriate to discuss health matters somewhere else." [23:34] baronhk[m]1 I might review a photo gallery. [23:34] schestowitz ? [23:35] baronhk[m]1 The one that comes with my phone still demands that I sign up for OneDrive even though I don't want that. [23:36] techrights-bot Contrary to what #EPO management has attempted to convey (using agents of #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos , including #CarlJosefsson ), things arent rosy at #Haar , where European #softwarepatents and many other bad things are being approved http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ [23:37] techrights-bot Dont forget that the Office devoted a whole unit to spying on unions and judges; its not like they have something to hide, right? http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/spying-on-unions-and-judges/ #epo #surveilance #europe #patents [23:38] techrights-bot #FDroid Spotlight: Infinity for Reddit https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/23/f-droid-spotlight-infinity-for-reddit/ by baronhk[m]1 [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | F-Droid Spotlight: Infinity for Reddit BaronHK's Rants [23:39] baronhk[m]1 I may also look into "Open Source Browser". Someone built a browser around WebView. [23:39] baronhk[m]1 I tend to collect web browsers. [23:39] schestowitz collect flaws [23:39] schestowitz each contains many [23:39] schestowitz attack surface growingf [23:40] baronhk[m]1 It is, but WebView is there anyway. [23:40] baronhk[m]1 It's actually aside from Chrome, so more attack surface I guess. [23:40] baronhk[m]1 It gets updated each month with your firmware. [23:40] techrights-bot LOL!! #ProprietarySoftware and #ClownComputing... eNJOY! https://www.itnews.com.au/news/failed-dns-server-restarts-caused-salesforce-outage-564893 #salesforce [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itnews.com.au | Failed DNS server restarts caused Salesforce outage - Networking - Software - Digital & Disruption - iTnews [23:43] techrights-bot "Apps" that stop working when you lose a connection is like food you can't eat without cooking, e.g. dried-up pasta [23:43] rasengan schestowitz: Sorry, I was kind of writing a bit off at that time. What I was trying to imply is that some of the leaders of some of the projects are attempting to fracture their communities by moving, even though many of the users don't wish to move as some of the projects they are also involved in don't wish to move. [23:44] techrights-bot #clowncomputing company: please ask us about how awesome we are when: 1) you have a connection; 2) we have a connection and 3) our system has not (yet/yet again) gone tits-up [23:45] schestowitz rasengan: I see, thanks for clarifying. I mostly agree. [23:46] rasengan schestowitz: No problem, and thank you! I [23:46] schestowitz I am trying to get to the bottom of the criticism of you/PIA/Kape [23:46] rasengan I've noticed that you've been really unbiased and looking deeper into issues than some of the other "reporters" out there. [23:46] schestowitz and then assess the legitimacy of the complaints [23:47] schestowitz anyway, we typically focus on patents epo etc. [23:47] schestowitz Example of our work, new article one hour ago: http://techrights.org/2021/05/23/illusion-of-peace-in-haar/ [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 18: Promoting the Illusion of Peace and Haar-mony | Techrights [23:48] schestowitz we need freenode for leakers and whistleblowers or tips [23:48] rasengan Agreed [23:49] schestowitz make sure kape never gets IDs of users of PIA [23:49] schestowitz via payment credentials [23:49] schestowitz not even through backchannels [23:49] schestowitz that would devastate trust if it was ever to be made doable [23:51] *guysoft42 has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [23:52] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@unaffiliated/kjcole) has joined #techrights [23:58] techrights-bot The awful 'evolution' of gaming: from boxes to copy control, then to DRM... and now they just let you stream some game or subscribe for "passes". Stop the ride, I want to get off it... https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/talking-point-how-about-a-monthly-steam-game-pass-from-valve [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Talking Point: how about a monthly Steam Game Pass from Valve | GamingOnLinux [23:59] techrights-bot Ian Jackson: Otter game server - now with uploadable game bundles https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/8210.html #games #gnu #linux [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diziet.dreamwidth.org | diziet | Otter game server - now with uploadable game bundles