●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 23, 2024 ●● ● Sep 23 [00:21] *IsambardPrince has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:21] admfubar https://lifehacker.com/tech/ai-junk-is-coming-for-your-youtube-feed [00:21] TR Bot Junk Is Coming for Your YouTube Feed | Lifehacker [00:24] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@vnyb7v24xb3fw.irc) has joined #techrights [00:24] *IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:24] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@yr2hhnuu2fsu2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:28] *IsambardPrince has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:29] *eidolon (~eidolon@ck29p7rieq5e8.irc) has joined #techrights [00:38] admfubar https://www.osnews.com/story/140783/slowly-booting-full-linux-on-the-intel-4004-for-fun-art-and-absolutely-no-profit/ [00:38] TR Bot booting full Linux on the Intel 4004 for fun, art, and absolutely no profit OSnews [00:48] MinceR https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/12/bofh_2023_episode_9/ [00:48] TR Bot BOFH: Ah. Company-branded merch. Much better than a bonus The Register [00:55] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [00:56] *includeals (~includeal@bl16-176-182.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights [00:58] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@9vwvg2yaw8uj6.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 23 [01:04] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], The police in the UK are pretty invasive, but they don't project the same image that the ones here do. [01:05] IsambardPrince Ours tend to look more like soldiers patrolling an occupied country during an insurgency. [01:05] IsambardPrince If they'd quit letting in all the criminals that Maduro doesn't want, it's possible we'd be safer. [01:08] MinceR unlikely [01:08] MinceR the worst criminals are running the megacorporations and the country [01:08] MinceR and the masses worship them [01:25] IsambardPrince MinceR, I've considered the way Texas and most Southern states run their death rows. [01:25] IsambardPrince The point isn't so much justice as it is a means of public intimidation. [01:25] IsambardPrince They consider the "status" of the offender more than anything. [01:26] IsambardPrince The ones who are white, with money, tend to get life in prison at worst. [01:27] IsambardPrince I'm biased because someone close to me was abducted as a child and abused. [01:27] IsambardPrince That's why part of me says crucify them and leave them for the birds as a warning to the rest, when you catch one. [01:28] IsambardPrince It's often worse than first degree murder. [01:29] TR News (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 22nd, 2024 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_September_22nd_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_September_22nd_2024.gmi [01:29] TR Bot Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 22nd, 2024 [01:37] admfubar https://insights.sei.cmu.edu/blog/3-recommendations-for-machine-unlearning-evaluation-challenges/ [01:37] TR Bot 3 Recommendations for Machine Unlearning Evaluation Challenges [01:38] IsambardPrince https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/22/politics/government-funding-bill-unveiled-johnson/index.html [01:38] TR Bot Speaker Johnson unveils short-term spending bill, urges members to avoid shutdown | CNN Politics [01:38] IsambardPrince Praising themselves for funding the government for 90 days. [01:38] IsambardPrince Things are bad. MinceR ^ [01:38] MinceR i know [01:39] IsambardPrince He says he doesn't want the Senate to "jam them with a bill full of new appropriations" so the House is "taking the initiative". [01:39] IsambardPrince The Constitution requires budget bills to start in the House. [01:39] IsambardPrince The Senate can't initiate one even if it wants to. [01:40] IsambardPrince If they send the Senate one, the Senate can amend it however it wants, pass it, and send it back to the House. [01:40] IsambardPrince So the House is doing what the Constitution requires. [01:40] IsambardPrince And it in no way could stop an amended bill from coming back from the Senate. [01:41] IsambardPrince MinceR, Including a bill that strips everything from the House Bill and sends a completely different spending bill back to the House using the original HB number. [01:41] IsambardPrince :D [01:41] admfubar https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/09/forget-hacking-this-gang-just-beat-people-to-steal-their-crypto/ [01:41] TR Bot Life imitates xkcd comic as Florida gang beats crypto password from retiree | Ars Technica [01:41] IsambardPrince They could even include a bridge to Hawaii! [01:53] admfubar https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2024/09/20/microsoft_windows_app/ [01:53] TR Bot Microsoft on a roll for terrible rebranding with Windows App The Register Forums [01:54] MinceR lol [01:55] MinceR Microsoft Generic Application [01:55] MinceR it's the logical conclusion of their branding strategy [01:55] MinceR s/br/bl/ ● Sep 23 [02:10] admfubar not to be confused with the 7D of kevin bacon... https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/5d-memory-crystal-claims-to-store-data-for-eternity-the-human-genome-has-already-been-stored-on-a [02:10] TR Bot '5D' memory crystal claims to store data for eternity the human genome has already been crammed onto a single small crystal | Tom's Hardware [02:10] admfubar they have a strategy? [02:11] MinceR :> [02:14] admfubar https://themarkup.org/artificial-intelligence/2024/08/12/why-silicon-valley-is-trying-so-hard-to-kill-this-ai-bill-in-california [02:14] TR Bot Why Silicon Valley Is Trying So Hard to Kill This AI Bill in California The Markup [02:14] IsambardPrince https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5108947/immigrants-ohio-dayton-economy-job-growth [02:14] TR Bot Why this Ohio city near Springfield welcomes immigrants : NPR [02:14] IsambardPrince They want an exploitable workforce. [02:15] IsambardPrince Which never asks for anything, or complains to anyone, or knows it has legal rights. [02:15] IsambardPrince They want a peasant army that is thankful to the Democrats. [02:33] admfubar https://science.slashdot.org/story/24/09/21/2249241/americas-ftc-sues-insulin-middlemen-who-artificially-inflated-drug-price [02:33] TR Bot America's FTC Sues Insulin Middlemen Who 'Artificially Inflated' Drug Price - Slashdot [02:34] TR News Wisconsin Alumni Research Foundation v. Apple Inc. (Fed. Cir. 2024) https://www.patentdocs.org/2024/09/wisconsin-alumni-research-foundation-v-apple-inc-fed-cir-2024.html [02:34] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.patentdocs.org/2024/09/wisconsin-alumni-research-foundation-v-apple-inc-fed-cir-2024.html ) [02:36] admfubar https://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/index.htm [02:36] TR Bot Radio Shack Catalog Archive (1939-2011) [02:37] TR News ~Why Wait? Choose Your Own Fate! gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2197 [02:38] TR News "Hello and welcome to ROOPHLOCH number 2. Today I am lying in a hammock in my backyard in the shade of a maple tree. I am thumb typing on my clockworkpi uconsole while ssh-ed into tilde.town, where my gemlog is hosted." gemini://tilde.town/~dozens/gemlog/26.gmi [02:39] TR News Writing and the Art of Lonliness gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2196 [02:40] TR News "The carnival is back after COVID cancellations. It was a bit smaller and a bit more muted than before but still loads of great costumes and floats. I particularly liked the Yaram lion costumes." gemini://rrees.smol.pub/hackney-carnival-2024 [02:41] TR News The notion that needs are good and wants bad does not survive inspection gemini://whither.smol.pub/1727036944 [02:42] TR News "I realized I have never installed standard M$ TTF fonts on my FreeBSD workstation " gemini://omg.pebcak.club/~freezr/pebcak/index.gmi [02:44] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], Re: Wil Wheaton, yeah, Mastodon is full of leftist retards, but it's sort of ironic that they've gotten so bad they drove him off. [02:45] IsambardPrince I probably wouldn't hurl curses so freely about my parents had they done anything for me. Much less known how to get me an acting career of some sort. [02:45] IsambardPrince Then again, knowing how fucked up California and especially Hollywood are.... [02:45] IsambardPrince That's where all the pedophiles and rapists hang out. [02:46] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220924.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-220924.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-220924.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-220924.txt [02:46] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 22, 2024 [02:46] IsambardPrince Harvey Weinstein but hardly a lone example. [02:47] IsambardPrince There's that guy that was floating around Nickelodeon studios in the 90s/2000s molesting child actors, what was his name? [02:47] IsambardPrince He got Drake Bell. [02:47] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220924.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-220924.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-220924.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-220924.txt [02:47] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 22, 2024 [02:47] TR News Techrights Gemini Links 23/09/2024: Autumns, Hackney Carnival 2024, and ROOPHLOCH https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Gemini_Links_23_09_2024_Autumns_Hackney_Carnival_2024_and_ROOPH.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Gemini_Links_23_09_2024_Autumns_Hackney_Carnival_2024_and_ROOPH.gmi [02:47] TR Bot Techrights Gemini Links 23/09/2024: Autumns, Hackney Carnival 2024, and ROOPHLOCH [02:47] IsambardPrince Leftists don't think there's anything wrong with pedophilia. Why would they? [02:48] IsambardPrince To them it's just another form of sex. [02:48] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-220924.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-220924.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-220924.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-220924.txt [02:48] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 22, 2024 [02:48] IsambardPrince After seeing some of the other crap they're trying to push on us, for them Pedophilia is just another Tuesday. [02:48] IsambardPrince In some countries, like Canada, they've normalized enough perversion that this will be the next domino to fall. [02:49] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-220924.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-220924.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-220924.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-220924.txt [02:49] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 22, 2024 [02:49] TR News Wave of Tech Layoffs Continues Into 2024, Impacting 60,000 Workers https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au/news/wave-of-tech-layoffs-continues-into-2024-impacting-60000-workers/ [02:49] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.techbusinessnews.com.au/news/wave-of-tech-layoffs-continues-into-2024-impacting-60000-workers/ ) [02:49] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2024-09-22.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2024-09-22.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:50] TR News Yesterday's Tux Machines bulletin is now ready! : http://news.tuxmachines.org/txt-archives/tuxmachines-2024-09-22.txt [02:50] TR News IBM. "Everyone complaining about AK needs to get their heads examined - Ginny, your typical suburban Karen did the most damage and maximum number of layoff's under her watch and all we heard were crickets!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uApmqCy [02:50] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uApmqCy ) [02:50] TR News "Maybe the (2) former employees with 20+ years of experience each were not very good performers. People do become very complacent." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uApmqCy [02:51] IsambardPrince The way it works is this. [02:51] TR News "IBM is a dying irrelevant company, but people still want to pretend that IBM is still somehow a relevant player in the tech field, it's not 1964 with S/360." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCZn1p6 [02:51] IsambardPrince In countries without sufficient safeguards to protect the majority opinion, some real weirdos can get in. [02:51] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCZn1p6 ) [02:52] IsambardPrince And find ways to weaponize the system against normal people, turning everything around. [02:52] TR News "In the markets that IBM operates, semi-professionals that work from home or expensive offices are being replaced by AI or humans from India or the Philippines. If they dont need you, they dont need you. Your job skills have become a dated commodity whereby a machine could replace you with next to no notice." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCZn1p6 [02:53] TR News "@uwg the Indians knows that IBM pays about 1/3 of US based employees salaries, the Indian employee works less than 1/3 the US employee effort, so effectively, IBM hires mores than 3 Indians for every position offshored." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM [02:53] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM ) [02:53] TR News "The math is very easy: when an employee in India costs a third or less than an American employee, the offshoring will happen. After all this is the investors money. For many years companies have talked about talent: this is a piped dream; anyone is expendable" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM [02:54] MinceR 23 034754 < IsambardPrince> Leftists don't think there's anything wrong with pedophilia. Why would they? [02:54] MinceR sorry, but this doesn't work anymore [02:54] MinceR way too many fascists were caught being pedophiles or assisting pedophiles [02:54] MinceR go find a new way to concern troll [02:54] TR News "It is always about money and stock performance - ask your pals at the amazon's and Nvidia's of the world. You as an employee have to look out for yourself and the company has to look out for itself - it is each man on his own - you can either sit and complain and cry about it for 10 years or get on with the program and make money where and when you can - it's not complicated!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM [02:57] TR News workforce rebalancing... They used to just call it.... layoffs. IBM Layoffs: Senior programmers, sales hit in ongoing workforce rebalancing https://stlawyers.ca/blog-news/ibm-layoffs-senior-programmers-sales-rebalancing/ [02:57] TR Bot IBM Layoffs: Senior programmers, sales hit in ongoing "workforce rebalancing" - Samfiru Tumarkin LLP [02:58] TR News Volkswagen Layoffs: German Car Manufacturer VW Prepares To Lay Off Its Employees in China To Lower Costs Amid Sales Decline, EV Shift https://www.latestly.com/auto/volkswagen-layoffs-german-car-manufacturer-vw-prepares-to-lay-off-its-employees-in-china-to-lower-costs-amid-sales-decline-ev-shift-6286161.html [02:58] TR Bot Layoffs: German Car Manufacturer VW Prepares To Lay Off Its Employees in China To Lower Costs Amid Sales Decline, EV Shift | LatestLY ● Sep 23 [03:02] TR News Techrights IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 22, 2024 https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/IRC_Proceedings_Sunday_September_22_2024.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/IRC_Proceedings_Sunday_September_22_2024.gmi [03:02] TR Bot Techrights IRC Proceedings: Sunday, September 22, 2024 [03:03] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [03:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [03:04] TR News Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi [03:04] TR Bot Techrights Over at Tux Machines... 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[03:08] TR News 70-Year-Old With $1,622 Monthly Social Security Benefit Cuts Rent to $500 With This Simple Move https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/70-year-old-1622-monthly-social-security-benefit-cuts-rent-500-this-simple-move-1726864 [03:08] TR Bot 70-Year-Old With $1,622 Monthly Social Security Benefit Cuts Rent to $500 With This Simple Move | IBTimes UK [03:08] TR News Windows TCO https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/2024/09/13/ivanti-releases-security-update-cloud-services-appliance [03:09] TR Bot Ivanti Releases Security Update for Cloud Services Appliance | CISA [03:09] TR News Indonesias Vulnerable Cybersecurity Puts SIPD at Risk https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/09/13/indonesias-vulnerable-cybersecurity-puts-sipd-at-risk/ [03:09] TR Bot Indonesia's Vulnerable Cybersecurity Puts SIPD at Risk - Modern Diplomacy [03:09] TR News 'Seditious' T-Shirt https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-15/first-conviction-under-hong-kongs-new-national-security-law-for-wearing-seditious-t-shirt [03:09] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-15/first-conviction-under-hong-kongs-new-national-security-law-for-wearing-seditious-t-shirt ) [03:10] TR News Boomer Considers Divorce After Husband Refuses To Give Her Money https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/my-millionaire-husband-forced-me-take-social-security-62-boomer-considers-divorce-after-1726991 [03:10] TR Bot 'My Millionaire Husband Forced Me To Take Social Security At 62': Boomer Considers Divorce After Husband Refuses To Give Her Money | IBTimes UK [03:11] IsambardPrince <@MinceR> 23 034754 < IsambardPrince> Leftists don't think there's anything wrong with pedophilia. Why would they? [03:11] IsambardPrince <@MinceR> sorry, but this doesn't work anymore [03:11] IsambardPrince <@MinceR> way too many fascists were caught being pedophiles or assisting pedophiles [03:11] IsambardPrince <@MinceR> go find a new way to concern troll [03:11] IsambardPrince Why does it always come down to Hollywood? [03:11] TR News Enterprise Linux Security Episode 99 - Overwhelming Infrastructure https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=1c6yt5GGdVU [03:11] TR Bot Enterprise Linux Security Episode 99 - Overwhelming Infrastructure - Invidious [03:11] MinceR it doesn't [03:13] TR News Taiwan Deepening Security Cooperation With US https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-18/taiwan-deepening-security-cooperation-with-us-other-allies Taiwan Security Bodies 'Paying Great Attention' to Hezbollah Beeper Explosions https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-18/taiwan-security-bodies-paying-great-attention-to-hezbollah-beeper-explosions [03:13] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-18/taiwan-deepening-security-cooperation-with-us-other-allies ) [03:13] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: INTERNAL_ERROR (err 2) ( status 0 @ https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-09-18/taiwan-security-bodies-paying-great-attention-to-hezbollah-beeper-explosions ) [03:23] *calamari (~calamari@217.138.ztv.nox) has joined #techrights [03:26] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@hkzkvpsjrrw3q.irc) has joined #techrights [03:44] *calamari has quit (Quit: Client closed) [03:47] TR News Techrights A Year Since the Big Switch - Part II - Early Discussions About More DDoS- and Censorship-Resistant (Robust to SLAPP) Hosting https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/A_Year_Since_the_Big_Switch_Part_II_Early_Discussions_About_Mor.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/A_Year_Since_the_Big_Switch_Part_II_Early_Discussions_About_Mor.gmi [03:47] TR Bot Techrights A Year Since the Big Switch - Part II - Early Discussions About More DDoS- and Censorship-Resistant (Robust to SLAPP) Hosting [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: this covers why we could not publish stuff from pocock for a while ^ [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] we discussed this in past years [03:48] schestowitz[TR2] the above is a concise summary [03:55] IsambardPrince The "Democratic" Party has a disturbing pattern of foisting candidates nobody wants. [03:55] IsambardPrince They tried to push Hillary Clinton in 2008. She couldn't get out of a primary against a guy few people had even heard of at the time (Obama). [03:56] *SomeGoat has quit (connection closed) [03:56] IsambardPrince In 2016, they pushed her again. She couldn't get ahead of Bernie Sanders, until superdelegates that nobody could even choose in party primaries voted for her. It ended up leading to Trump's presidency. [03:57] IsambardPrince In 2020, they finally figured they could get Biden in after he had lost multiple primaries, usually be February or March, since 1988. [03:57] IsambardPrince They could squeak him past Trump, in the middle of a largely overblown crisis, which they themselves exacerbated with COVID lockdowns. [03:57] TR News Techrights [Meme] Debian's Black Eye: Free Speech https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Debian_s_Black_Eye_Free_Speech.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Debian_s_Black_Eye_Free_Speech.gmi [03:57] TR Bot Techrights [Meme] Debian's Black Eye: Free Speech [03:58] IsambardPrince They forced a primary election after telling the groups that supported Sanders not to leave their house, and took the polling machines out of nursing homes at the last minute, so the elderly couldn't vote. [03:58] IsambardPrince This year, things were relatively more normal than they were in 2020, and Biden was obviously going to lose. [03:58] IsambardPrince They had a primary election anyway, which was staged to push him through. [03:59] IsambardPrince Then when the marbles all fell out of the bag in a 9 PM debate, their answer was to skip past any sort of democratic process, and produce Kamala Harris, which nobody voted for. [03:59] IsambardPrince There has not been a Democratic primary with actual choices for President, since 2008. ● Sep 23 [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEymn5C [04:01] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEymn5C ) [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] You should lay off 100% of the staff at thelayoff.com [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] Neck yourselves, TRANNlES! [04:01] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:01] IsambardPrince This election is still uniquely horrible. [04:02] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], Just a few years until I can move to "senior" apartments. [04:02] IsambardPrince They don't want younger people in most apartments now. [04:03] IsambardPrince They move in, they have kids, they move snakes and vicious dogs in there, and put holes in the walls. [04:03] IsambardPrince Drugs. [04:03] IsambardPrince Shootings. [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] Bribe for silence in NDA [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] "Its very easy to do legally - the situation is usually along the lines: [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] The legal requirement is for us to pay you [very small amount]. However we are offering you a special redundancy package of [somewhat larger amount] if you agree to X and Y conditions. [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] So forced is probably the wrong word. Strongly encouraged?" [04:03] schestowitz[TR2] https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2024/09/18/ibm_job_cuts/ [04:03] TR Bot IBM quietly axing thousands of jobs, source says The Register Forums [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] Its times like these that you realize just what your place is -- a powerless individual up against an organization that holds all the cards. Usually this exercise in bare, naked power is reserved for blue collar types, the drones in the warehouse world, but in reality we're all in the same boat with the notion of 'professionalism' being a chimera. [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] This explains why there's such a rabid hatred of labor unions. A union can act as a counterweight, a bargaining unit with sufficient power to negotiate with a corporation as a peer. Its not perfect, but then what else can you do? [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] I can't help thinking that if this corporation spent a fraction of the time and intellectual effort on their product design and support that they spend on keeping the workforce under control then they'd be quite the technological powerhouse." [04:04] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], The charlatan landlord. [04:04] IsambardPrince Background in "management". [04:04] IsambardPrince Can't actually manage things. [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] Back in the day (I'm retired now), I used to work for IBM - not by choice (they took over my [then] employer). [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] At one point they ran a series of small-group meetings where they did a PR job for their new "way forward". During the presentation they boasted that in the previous year they had promoted 7% of their workforce. I don't think they were expecting me to jump in at that point: "Translation: mean time to next promotion = 14 years". [04:04] schestowitz[TR2] My line manager commented to me afterwards that psychologically I had already left - and she knew her stuff (and her staff) ... I left a couple of months later." [04:05] IsambardPrince We'll see how long those people next door that got the old lady's apartment last. [04:05] IsambardPrince Some people move into this building and leave within a month or two. [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] IBM is facing over 20 THOUSAND race sex and age discrimination lawsuits. [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] If the average payout is just $1,000,000 that could be $20 BILLION in payments alone (excluding legal fees). [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] IBM is smoldering and they've already laid off the fire extinguisher because it wasn't in a white bottle. [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] ' [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] " [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] It is very sad to see the continued decline of a great company that was previously identified by its values both for its customers and employees. [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] It creates rigged employee ranking and value processes to justify and obfuscate resource actions that normally target more senior and older IT professionals. [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] In some cases there are 3 or 4 layers of middle and senior management building spreadsheets and scoring models to target client facing professionals who are adding value (vs sitting in conference rooms deciding who to target next). Its time for IBM to revert to the model applied by Lou Gerstner where there should not be more than 5 layers of management from the top to the coal face. The extra redundant layers are expert a [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] t avoiding RAs in addition to creating unnecessary administrative and review workloads for productive client facing resources. This is where IBM should be looking for cost savings and productivity opportunities." [04:14] TR News Techrights All-Time Highs for Android and GNU/Linux in India https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/All_Time_Highs_for_Android_and_GNU_Linux_in_India.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/All_Time_Highs_for_Android_and_GNU_Linux_in_India.gmi [04:14] TR Bot Techrights All-Time Highs for Android and GNU/Linux in India [04:26] TR News Techrights Wow! Microsoft Promotes DirectX (Proprietary) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Wow_Microsoft_Promotes_DirectX_Proprietary.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Wow_Microsoft_Promotes_DirectX_Proprietary.gmi [04:26] TR Bot Techrights Wow! Microsoft Promotes DirectX (Proprietary) [04:29] TR News Many IBM layoffs in Washington: https://stlawyers.ca/blog-news/ibm-layoffs-senior-programmers-sales-rebalancing/ but no notices shown here: https://esd.wa.gov/about-employees/WARN [04:29] TR Bot IBM Layoffs: Senior programmers, sales hit in ongoing "workforce rebalancing" - Samfiru Tumarkin LLP [04:29] TR Bot ESDWAGOV - Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification (WARN) [04:29] TR News Is WARN Act being quietly and gradually abandoned now that there are so many layoffs and "morale" is impacted? [04:31] TR News In past 3 months, on average, US debt grew 200 billion dollars (per month) https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt [04:31] TR Bot United States Government Debt [04:32] TR News And NO, it should not be "normal" for ANY country to be in debt. Some countries have no debt at all. [04:33] TR News "The FOSS community and products are there for controlling. It wouldn't be the case otherwise. MS/Windows for example. At the same time the FOSS wouldn't/couldn't be able to reach much consensus without structure. Speaking very broadly." https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/microsoft-employee-turns-smart-alec-when-systemd-wipes-part-of-someones-home-folder-4175738465/page2.html [04:33] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/microsoft-employee-turns-smart-alec-when-systemd-wipes-part-of-someones-home-folder-4175738465/page2.html ) [04:39] IsambardPrince "We humans often learn more from a failure or a mistake than an easy success." [04:39] IsambardPrince So true. [04:41] IsambardPrince An easy success doesn't teach anything. [04:41] IsambardPrince It creates soft people. [04:41] IsambardPrince Like those living off their parents. [04:45] IsambardPrince https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(Star_Trek%3A_The_Next_Generation) [04:45] TR Bot Conspiracy (Star Trek: The Next Generation) - Wikipedia [04:45] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], One of the banned episodes in the UK. [04:45] IsambardPrince It also required a trigger warning in Canada. [04:46] IsambardPrince The UK also banned another episode because Data mentions the IRA as an example of terrorism being successful. [04:46] IsambardPrince Mostly successful in killing their own, as I understand it. [04:47] IsambardPrince I don't get it. They managed to smuggle in some decent weaponry (for an insurgency). [04:47] IsambardPrince It's shocking that they didn't manage to cause more damage to military targets with that kind of stuff. [04:49] IsambardPrince Unfortunately I've had some experience using unconventional tactics against a superior force. [04:52] IsambardPrince It helps to take advantage of the other side's mistakes, ignorance, incorrect assumptions, sabotage, take advantage of psychological effect, mislead, and to strike quickly and very hard with something that they won't expect. [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] didn't know about that [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] The UK also banned another episode because Data mentions the IRA as an example of terrorism being successful. [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] paperboy used that in refer ence to Hamas [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] which made him sound like he was supporting terrorism [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] which he insisted he did not [04:59] schestowitz[TR2] "sorry, not sorry" ● Sep 23 [05:01] IsambardPrince I could have done so much more damage as a field commander of an insurgency. [05:02] IsambardPrince This was so ridiculous it would be comical if not for the rampant undirected loss of life. [05:02] schestowitz[TR2] guerrilla is like that [05:03] IsambardPrince When you're so careless that you start killing the people you need support from, expect to lose. [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] embedding oneself in the population is cowardice and disregard for human life [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] for your end goals [05:03] schestowitz[TR2] where the end justifies means, which includes "human shields" [05:03] IsambardPrince Yeah, taking the locals as human shields forces them into the hands of your enemies for protection. [05:03] IsambardPrince It's a seriously bad move. [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] lebanon [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] take apartment buildings [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] for meetings of the terror group [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] than blame the enemy for striking it [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] why hold meetings there [05:04] schestowitz[TR2] ? [05:05] IsambardPrince It would have been more effective to slow down and focus on a trickle of Army deaths. [05:06] IsambardPrince You want to demoralize the occupiers and their support base. [05:06] IsambardPrince You'd need to make these attacks surgical and over with quickly. [05:08] IsambardPrince Which you can absolutely accomplish with some of that sort of equipment. [05:09] IsambardPrince https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_British_Army_Lynx_shootdown [05:09] TR Bot 1994 British Army Lynx shootdown - Wikipedia [05:10] IsambardPrince You'd ideally want more of things like this, and not car bombs. [05:12] IsambardPrince The potential for widespread destruction from a helicopter crash is quite limited. [05:13] IsambardPrince https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Provisional_Irish_Republican_Army_actions_(1992%E2%80%931999) [05:13] TR Bot Chronology of Provisional Irish Republican Army actions (19921999) - Wikipedia [05:14] IsambardPrince When you look at this though, there's like one brilliant thing and like 100 braindead stupid. [05:14] IsambardPrince Not a good ratio. [05:17] TR News Techrights Finding Hosts That Are Robust to Censorship, Not Just Boasting Decent Uptime Record https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Finding_Hosts_That_Are_Robust_to_Censorship_Not_Just_Boasting_D.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Finding_Hosts_That_Are_Robust_to_Censorship_Not_Just_Boasting_D.gmi [05:17] TR Bot Techrights Finding Hosts That Are Robust to Censorship, Not Just Boasting Decent Uptime Record [05:24] TR News Techrights [Meme] Threatened at Knifepoint https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Threatened_at_Knifepoint.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Threatened_at_Knifepoint.gmi [05:24] TR Bot Techrights [Meme] Threatened at Knifepoint [05:44] TR News Techrights A Migration to Centralised Certificate Authorities (CAs) Has Betrayed LXer https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/A_Migration_to_Centralised_Certificate_Authorities_CAs_Has_Betr.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/A_Migration_to_Centralised_Certificate_Authorities_CAs_Has_Betr.gmi [05:44] TR Bot Techrights A Migration to Centralised Certificate Authorities (CAs) Has Betrayed LXer [05:47] TR News LF LE CA has fallen again, now 28. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi "2577 (89.7 %) capsules are self-signed, 28 (1.0 %) use the Certificate Authority Let's Encrypt, 267 (9.3 %) are signed by another CA (may be not a trusted one)." ● Sep 23 [06:02] TR News Techrights Here Comes Winter https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Here_Comes_Winter.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Here_Comes_Winter.gmi [06:02] TR Bot Techrights Here Comes Winter [06:03] TR News Valkey 8 sets a new bar for open-source in-memory NoSQL data storage https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/valkey-8-sets-a-new-bar-for-open-source-in-memory-nosql-data-storage [06:03] TR Bot Valkey 8 sets a new bar for open-source in-memory NoSQL data storage [06:11] TR News "Actually, accounting for inflation I (@2xmi) made more than 5x that 17LPA offer." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM [06:11] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM ) [06:23] IsambardPrince https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIxzKltYcew [06:23] TR Bot https://not-ytb.blocus.ch/watch?v=cIxzKltYcew [06:23] TR Bot not resolve host: not-ytb.blocus.ch ( status 0 @ https://not-ytb.blocus.ch/watch?v=cIxzKltYcew ) [06:23] IsambardPrince He says a lot of people he knew did public service work for loan forgiveness and then "someone else got into office, then someone else got into office, then someone else wrote a bill, and then the Supreme Court decided". [06:24] IsambardPrince "So I don't have a lot of trust that the government will do what it says it will do in ten years." [06:24] IsambardPrince LOL [06:24] IsambardPrince Hard to argue with that logic. [06:27] TR News Techrights Does the WARN Act Still Matter in the United States? (Layoffs and Closure Transparency) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Does_the_WARN_Act_Still_Matter_in_the_United_States_Layoffs_and.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Does_the_WARN_Act_Still_Matter_in_the_United_States_Layoffs_and.gmi [06:27] TR Bot Techrights Does the WARN Act Still Matter in the United States? (Layoffs and Closure Transparency) [06:29] IsambardPrince The government is the biggest bunch of nonsense. [06:29] IsambardPrince Talks out the ass, tells you something today and doesn't feel bound by it tomorrow. [06:29] IsambardPrince Only lies when their lips are moving. [06:29] IsambardPrince They make a lot of these, what I call "Darth Vader Deals". [06:30] IsambardPrince That's where they make promises then they come back and say "I'm altering the deal. Pray I alter it no further!" [06:30] IsambardPrince MinceR, ^ [06:32] *agentcas3y has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:33] *agentcas3y (~agentcasey@b6dc92btrdtrn.irc) has joined #techrights [06:34] IsambardPrince That London cop that told that piano guy he couldn't say things the Chinese don't like. [06:35] IsambardPrince I'd be like "Fuck right off lady. What kind of cop doesn't even carry a gun? Goes around thinking they can tell me what to say. Fuck you." [06:35] IsambardPrince That's the American reply to some idiot like that. [06:35] IsambardPrince But it's just not going to happen in the UK. [06:35] IsambardPrince If they were going to grow a pair and quit getting bullied by these idiots it would have happened by now. [06:37] IsambardPrince Even Andy Griffith let Barney have one bullet. [06:37] IsambardPrince What kind of cop has no gun? [06:37] IsambardPrince What kind of people let themselves be bullied by these clowns? [06:41] IsambardPrince I understand their super power is they can call in some people who are actually a threat who will arrive eventually. [06:41] IsambardPrince The people from TV Licensing, obviously. [06:52] TR News Techrights YouTube Stopped Working With Free Software a Long Time Ago; Now It Stops Working if You Use an Ad Blocker (Across the Web!) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_Stopped_Working_With_Free_Software_a_Long_Time_Ago_Now_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_Stopped_Working_With_Free_Software_a_Long_Time_Ago_Now_.gmi [06:52] TR Bot Techrights YouTube Stopped Working With Free Software a Long Time Ago; Now It Stops Working if You Use an Ad Blocker (Across the Web!) ● Sep 23 [07:02] TR News Techrights Google Has Left Almost Nothing of Invidious https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Google_Has_Left_Almost_Nothing_of_Invidious.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Google_Has_Left_Almost_Nothing_of_Invidious.gmi [07:02] TR Bot Techrights Google Has Left Almost Nothing of Invidious [07:17] TR News Techrights The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Has Chosen PeerTube https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/The_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_Has_Chosen_PeerTube.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/The_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_Has_Chosen_PeerTube.gmi [07:17] TR Bot Techrights The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Has Chosen PeerTube [07:23] TR News (NEW): This Week in KDE Apps https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/This_Week_in_KDE_Apps.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/This_Week_in_KDE_Apps.gmi [07:23] TR Bot Tux Machines This Week in KDE Apps [07:27] TR News (NEW): Dolphin plugins 24.08 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Dolphin_plugins_24_08.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Dolphin_plugins_24_08.gmi [07:27] TR Bot Tux Machines Dolphin plugins 24.08 [07:30] TR News (NEW): Review: Expirion 6.0 and openKylin 2.0 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Review_Expirion_6_0_and_openKylin_2_0.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Review_Expirion_6_0_and_openKylin_2_0.gmi [07:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Review: Expirion 6.0 and openKylin 2.0 [07:35] TR News (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi [07:35] TR Bot Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Software [07:36] TR News What is the Fediverse? https://framatube.org/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD [07:36] TR Bot What is the Fediverse? - Framatube [07:42] TR News Techrights YouTube: You're Blocked From Watching Videos About Why YouTube Sucks Until You Make YouTube Suck Even More https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_You_re_Blocked_From_Watching_Videos_About_Why_YouTube_S.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_You_re_Blocked_From_Watching_Videos_About_Why_YouTube_S.gmi [07:42] TR Bot Techrights YouTube: You're Blocked From Watching Videos About Why YouTube Sucks Until You Make YouTube Suck Even More [07:45] eidolon icymi: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/issues/4734#issuecomment-2365205990 [07:45] TR Bot "This helps protect our community." Issue #4734 iv-org/invidious GitHub [07:46] eidolon months [07:49] schestowitz[TR2] yes, I linked to uit [07:49] schestowitz[TR2] unixfox [07:49] schestowitz[TR2] he runs other good sites [07:49] schestowitz[TR2] like searx.be [07:53] TR News Tso explains why he dumped WordPress. Switching to Hugo https://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2019/05/20/switching-to-hugo/ [07:53] TR Bot Switching to Hugo - Theodore Ts'o ● Sep 23 [08:04] *parsifal (~parsifal@6thegygyadsu4.irc) has joined #techrights [08:05] *parsifal has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:14] TR News Techrights Burying Criticism of Linux as an RTOS https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Burying_Criticism_of_Linux_as_an_RTOS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Burying_Criticism_of_Linux_as_an_RTOS.gmi [08:14] TR Bot Techrights Burying Criticism of Linux as an RTOS [08:15] *IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:20] TR News "On the other hand, PREEMPT_RT is one specific implementation aimed at enhancing the real-time capabilities of the Linux OS. Linux is not an RTOS, but the PREEMPT_RT collection of patches reduces the latency and improves the systems responsiveness, making it more suitable for real-time applications." https://ubuntu.com/blog/real-time-linux-vs-rtos-2 [08:20] TR Bot NO TITLE [08:23] *nonoffender (~nonoffend@212.102.ty.jzm) has joined #techrights [08:24] *nonoffender (~nonoffend@212.102.ty.jzm) has left #techrights [08:33] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: with rtos patches for linux [08:33] schestowitz[TR2] any impact on freedom? [08:33] schestowitz[TR2] do they introduce any blobs? [08:33] schestowitz[TR2] i am guessing not [08:34] TR News Techrights RTOS on a Kernel With Nearly 40 Million Lines of Code https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/RTOS_on_a_Kernel_With_Nearly_40_Million_Lines_of_Code.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/RTOS_on_a_Kernel_With_Nearly_40_Million_Lines_of_Code.gmi [08:34] TR Bot Techrights RTOS on a Kernel With Nearly 40 Million Lines of Code [08:45] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@hwbnykfv5trww.irc) has joined #techrights [08:51] TR News Techrights [Meme] Lamb to the Slaughter https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Lamb_to_the_Slaughter.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Lamb_to_the_Slaughter.gmi [08:51] TR Bot Techrights [Meme] Lamb to the Slaughter [08:57] TR News Energy Policy https://www.desmog.com/2024/09/22/energy-policy-should-not-be-in-hands-of-politicians-british-gas-boss-chris-oshea-tells-labour-minister/ | Source: DeSmog [08:57] TR Bot Policy Shouldnt be in Hands of Politicians, British Gas Boss Tells Labour Minister - DeSmog ● Sep 23 [09:00] TR News "Former piracy giant RARBG closed its doors last year but as is often the case, the brand lives on through knockoff sites. Surprisingly, however, the original RARBG.to domain is back online as well, taking the shape of a shady Thai casino affiliate." https://torrentfreak.com/rarbg-domain-now-points-to-a-thai-casino-site-240922/ | Source: Torrent Freak [09:00] TR Bot Domain Now Points to a Thai Casino Site * TorrentFreak [09:14] TR News "Valve appear to have some pretty ambitious future plans for Steam, as we've seen recently in a leak" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/09/valve-appear-to-be-testing-arm64-and-android-support-for-steam-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [09:14] TR Bot appear to be testing ARM64 and Android support for Steam on Linux | GamingOnLinux [09:16] TR News iophk: really increasing their campaign against LO, Calligra, and especially against open formats and standards file formats https://boingboing.net/2024/09/22/outsmart-the-microsoft-365-outages-own-office-with-no-strings-attached.html [09:16] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://boingboing.net/2024/09/22/outsmart-the-microsoft-365-outages-own-office-with-no-strings-attached.html ) [09:17] TR News iophk: exposes microsoft use internal access to windows systemshttps://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&u=https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000010714272.html [09:17] TR Bot Tietovuoto: Nin Venjn trollitehdas yritti vaikuttaa eurovaaleihin - Ilta-Sanomat [09:18] TR News Free all feeds https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https://etienne.pflieger.bzh/a-ecrit/free-all-the-feeds.html [09:18] TR Bot Free all the feeds [09:19] TR News Billionaire Elon Musk Shared Memes Made by FSB Propaganda Machine https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-tesla-ceo-elon-musk-shared-memes-made-by-fsb-propaganda-machine [09:19] TR Bot Billionaire Tesla CEO Elon Musk Shared Memes Made by FSB Propaganda Machine [09:20] TR News Michael's Mail Book (and some of the others) https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/holdning/michaels-mail-bog-og-nogle-af-de-andre [09:20] TR Bot Michaels Mail-bog (og nogle af de andre) | Version2 [09:21] schestowitz[TR2] Sompi_: re [09:21] schestowitz[TR2] iophk: exposes microsoft use internal access to windows systemshttps://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&u=https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000010714272.html [09:21] schestowitz[TR2] can you provide a translation of that relevant paragraph [09:21] schestowitz[TR2] please? [09:28] psydruid https://in.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/ROCKCHIP-ELECTRONICS-CO-L-102756022/news/Rockchip-Electronics-Co-Ltd-Reports-Earnings-Results-for-the-Full-Year-Ended-December-31-2023-46416695/ [09:28] TR Bot Rockchip Electronics Co., Ltd. Reports Earnings Results for the Full Year Ended December 31, 2023 - MarketScreener [09:28] psydruid higher sales but half the net income? [09:36] schestowitz[TR2] income is what matters [09:36] schestowitz[TR2] not sale [09:36] schestowitz[TR2] when you are a comopany [09:36] schestowitz[TR2] they are not a charity [09:37] schestowitz[TR2] to use the analogy i used before [09:37] schestowitz[TR2] companeis that stress revenue hide lackof income [09:37] schestowitz[TR2] or deep losses [09:37] schestowitz[TR2] you and me can also run a largew company [09:37] schestowitz[TR2] but to what ends? [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] you can get some idiots to "invest" [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] hired loads of people [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] "large company" [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] but if the company cannot make a profit, it'll collapse [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] if the dumb shareholder shoulders the losses, it's still a failure [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] the workers get a little richer [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] their salaries [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] at the expense of the investors, which may include pension funds [09:38] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. the employeers [09:39] schestowitz[TR2] and employees [09:39] schestowitz[TR2] so the systems sucks itself [09:39] schestowitz[TR2] for itself [09:39] schestowitz[TR2] faked circulation of money [09:39] schestowitz[TR2] you invest your income in your income [09:39] schestowitz[TR2] get paid in #shares of $company [09:40] schestowitz[TR2] to make $company able to pay you in shares [09:40] schestowitz[TR2] it's akin to a ponzi scheme or shitcoins [09:40] schestowitz[TR2] ok., practical example [09:40] schestowitz[TR2] i create a company, xyzwidget [09:41] schestowitz[TR2] i hire psydruid to work for xyzwidget [09:41] schestowitz[TR2] i get some other fraud to invest a billion dollars in xyzwidget [09:41] schestowitz[TR2] and that fraud "owns" 1% of xyzwidget [09:41] schestowitz[TR2] so xyzwidget is now "worth" 100 billion dollars [09:41] schestowitz[TR2] i pay psydruid in shares of xyzwidget [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] xyzwidget is worth 100 billion dollars, right? [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] soon, psydruid becomes a millionare [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] because his share of xyzwidget are worth a lot [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] than comes an audit [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] it turns out that xyzwidget makes a lot of losses [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] the deficits are huge [09:42] schestowitz[TR2] that 1% investment turns out to be a fraud [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] and the company iw worse than worthless [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] the company is in deep doodoo [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] declares bankrupcy [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] so there go 100 billion dollars [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] and all the "salaries" or compensation of psydruid [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] who turns out not to be a million [09:43] schestowitz[TR2] for more info, [09:44] schestowitz[TR2] see Sheela and Jim Zemlin: [09:44] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/2022/08/19/the-bakkt-pyramid-scheme/ [09:44] TR Bot Sheela Zemlin's Company Has Hit All-Time Low, Lost More Than 90% of 'Market Value' in Only Months [09:44] schestowitz[TR2] Also about Bakkt https://techrights.org/n/2024/03/05/Jim_Zemlin_Whose_Wife_is_Said_to_Have_Committed_Securities_Frau.shtml [09:44] TR Bot Techrights Jim Zemlin, Whose Wife is Said to Have Committed Securities Fraud at Bakkt, Weds Gates Foundation With Linux Foundation to Combat Fraud? [09:44] schestowitz[TR2] these fraudulent schemes make up Wall Street [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] some are blantant [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] some more than others [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] but many companies are just like this [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] but they ride expensive cars and wear a rolex [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] to get you to feel like they are REALLY rich [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] and tehere is REALLY something in there.. [09:45] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/08/03/Both_Apple_and_Microsoft_Owe_More_Money_Than_They_Have.shtml [09:45] TR Bot Techrights Both Apple and Microsoft Owe More Money Than They Have [09:48] psydruid I'm just wondering how you can have higher sales but the margins have magically evaporated [09:48] psydruid has there been some major investment? [09:48] psydruid saving for bad times? [09:48] psydruid is the company a house of cards? [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] maybe loans [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] that's one possibility [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] or outstanding bill [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] or some kind [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] or they bought sopmething [09:49] schestowitz[TR2] or rented office space [09:50] schestowitz[TR2] the LF and Canonical were like that [09:50] schestowitz[TR2] less profit [09:50] schestowitz[TR2] but more revenue [09:50] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. "sales" [09:51] TR News How to Install Elastic (ELK) Stack on Ubuntu 24.04 https://www.linuxtechi.com/how-to-install-elk-stack-on-ubuntu/ [09:51] TR Bot How to Install Elastic (ELK) Stack on Ubuntu 24.04 [09:51] TR News "Noble Numbat" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2024/09/how-to-adjust-sound-volume-over-100-percent-on-ubuntu-2404.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [09:51] TR Bot How To Adjust Sound Volume Over 100% on Ubuntu 24.04 [09:52] TR News KDE Weekly Update: Fixing Plasma 6.2 Bugs and New Features in Plasma 6.3 https://ostechnix.com/kde-weekly-update-fixing-plasma-6-2-bugs-and-new-features-in-plasma-6-3/ [09:52] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://ostechnix.com/kde-weekly-update-fixing-plasma-6-2-bugs-and-new-features-in-plasma-6-3/ ) [09:54] TR News (NEW): Plasma 6.2 Beta in KDE neon Testing Edition https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/17/Plasma_6_2_Beta_in_KDE_neon_Testing_Edition.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/17/Plasma_6_2_Beta_in_KDE_neon_Testing_Edition.gmi [09:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Plasma 6.2 Beta in KDE neon Testing Edition [09:54] TR News GNOME Weekly Update: GNOME 47 Released! https://ostechnix.com/gnome-weekly-update-gnome-47-released/ [09:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://ostechnix.com/gnome-weekly-update-gnome-47-released/ ) [09:54] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [09:57] TR News "Intel"?? In 2024? https://linuxgizmos.com/ms-cf16-fanless-low-power-pico-itx-sbc-with-alder-lake-n-and-amston-lake-processors/ | Source: Linux Gizmos [09:57] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/ms-cf16-fanless-low-power-pico-itx-sbc-with-alder-lake-n-and-amston-lake-processors/ ) [09:58] TR News "However, Home Office officials unexpectedly rejected Loki Skywalker's passport application due to "copyright issues."" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/british-soldiers-7-year-old-son-named-after-movie-character-denied-passport-over-copyright-1727041 | Source: International Business Times [09:58] TR Bot British Soldier's 7-Year-Old Son, Named After Movie Character, Is Denied Passport Over Copyright Issues | IBTimes UK ● Sep 23 [10:03] *cns (~Vengeance@2.219.56.221) has joined #techrights [10:04] TR News "I don't know about you, but that sounds pretty familiar." https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2024/they-stole-my-voice-ai | Source: Jeff Geerling [10:04] TR Bot They stole my voice with AI | Jeff Geerling [10:05] TR News "Website publishers use an ad server to manage space available for sale." https://techcentral.co.za/google-allegedly-monopolised-ad-tech/252158/ | Source: Tech Central (South Africa) [10:05] TR Bot How Google allegedly monopolised the ad-tech market - TechCentral [10:05] TR News "But its not just them who are in danger." https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/23/opinion/russia-putin-kremlin.html | Source: New York Times [10:05] TR Bot Opinion | Putin Is Hunting Down Ordinary People All Over the World - The New York Times [10:07] TR News Philip Chimento: Its like cp -R but for your GUI https://ptomato.wordpress.com/2024/09/23/its-like-cp-r-but-for-your-gui/ [10:07] TR Bot Its like cp -R but for your GUI | The Mad Scientist Review [10:09] TR News "In February, VIGINUM, the French government body that monitors foreign digital interference" https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-fake-news-disinformation-balkans/33126528.html | Source: RFERL [10:09] TR Bot How Russia Spreads Fake News In The Balkans [10:10] TR News [Old] "The video uses many of the same visuals as a real ad that Harris, the likely Democratic president nominee, released launching her campaign." https://apnews.com/article/parody-ad-ai-harris-musk-x-misleading-3a5df582f911a808d34f68b766aa3b8e | Source: Associated Press [10:10] TR Bot Election 2024: Elon Musk shares a deepfake video that mimics Kamala Harris | AP News [10:11] TR News "That legislation also requires the platforms to design features which easily allow users to report deepfake content and authorizes candidates" https://therecord.media/california-enacts-law-regulating-deepfakes-election-harris | Source: The Record [10:11] TR Bot California enacts laws regulating use of deepfakes in election ads [10:11] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCkvDko [10:11] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCkvDko ) [10:12] schestowitz[TR2] " [10:12] schestowitz[TR2] Master inventor here (i.e. loads of patents). Yeah. That's a thing. But we keep patenting stuff because our salaries su-k and it's one of the few ways to boost your income here. The funny thing is that we've gutted so much of our IP teams that long term, this strategy isn't going to work eventually... but IBM does have a pretty big tail of patents. [10:12] schestowitz[TR2] " [10:12] TR News "Many radio stations and radio hosts that serve Latino audiences remain committed to broadcasting information that is true and factual." https://www.lonestarlive.com/palabra/2024/09/spanish-language-radio-listeners-in-us-face-a-growing-threat-from-false-information.html | Source: Advance Local Media LLC [10:12] TR Bot radio listeners in US face a growing threat from false information - lonestarlive.com [10:14] schestowitz[TR2] IBM sold many of its software parents to actual, notorious parent trolls https://www.finjan.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/719/finjan-announces-formation-of-new-subsidiary-finjan-blue [10:14] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.finjan.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/719/finjan-announces-formation-of-new-subsidiary-finjan-blue ) [10:15] TR News "We arent surprised that this particular product design collaboration has come about." https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/jony-ive-confirms-he-is-working-on-an-openai-hardware-design-project | Source: Tom's Hardware http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/16/Open_AI_Looks_Like_a_Company_Headed_Towards_Bankruptcy_Not_IPO_.shtml [10:15] TR Bot Jony Ive confirms he is working on an OpenAI hardware design project | Tom's Hardware [10:15] TR Bot Techrights 'Open'AI Looks Like a Company Headed Towards Bankruptcy, Not IPO, Losses Grew Almost Tenfold in a Year (Yes, it's Just a Bubble Facilitated by Artificial Hype) [10:17] TR News "Todays East Finchley stands as a testament to another era." https://heliomass.com/posts/2422-station-stories-east-finchley/ | Source: Heliomass [10:17] TR Bot Stories: East Finchley | heliomass.com [10:39] *eidolon has quit (Quit: ) [10:51] *includeals (~includeal@bl16-176-182.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #techrights [10:54] *includeals has quit (Client Quit) [10:57] TR News "PanelClix surveyed a representative group of over 1,200 parents with kids between the ages of 8 and 18." https://nltimes.nl/2024/09/23/parents-want-clear-age-guidelines-kids-smartphones | Source: NL Times [10:57] TR Bot Parents want clear age guidelines for kids and smartphones | NL Times [10:57] *includeals (~includeal@2001:8a0:e94d:9400:6d0f:cb94:6c9d:d3bd) has joined #techrights ● Sep 23 [11:00] TR News "In June this year, Apple announced it would not roll out its HEY HI features under Apple" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/apples-big-bet-on-ai-tech-faces-eu-regulations-hurdle/articleshow/113575685.cms | Source: India Times [11:00] TR Bot Apple Intelligence: Apples big bet on AI tech Faces EU regulations hurdle - The Economic Times [11:01] TR News "The Biden administration has raised serious concerns about the collection of data by Chinese companies on U.S." https://www.voanews.com/a/us-to-propose-ban-on-chinese-software-hardware-in-connected-vehicles-sources-say/7794115.html | Source: VOA News [11:01] TR Bot US to propose ban on Chinese software, hardware in connected vehicles, sources say [11:05] TR News "I'm afraid I have bad news for anyone with this yearning." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/TLSCertificatesNeverWellVerified | Source: University of Toronto [11:05] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/TLSCertificatesNeverWellVerified [11:09] TR News "The big picture: At first blush, SocialAI, the all-bot platform, might sound like "pure artifice" or an "AI void"" https://www.axios.com/2024/09/22/social-media-ai-bot-app-x | Source: Axios [11:09] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2024/09/22/social-media-ai-bot-app-x ) [11:09] TR News "Anbernic has been releasing tons of devices ever since the SP came out, the RG40XXH, the RGB40XXV, the RGCube" https://joelchrono.xyz/blog/the-gba-experience-i-wanted/ | Source: Joel Chrono [11:09] TR Bot The GBA experience I wanted [11:09] Sompi_ schestowitz[TR2]: it's war propaganda again [11:09] schestowitz[TR2] oh. [11:09] schestowitz[TR2] what does that part say? [11:10] Sompi_ They claim that Russia has some "troll factory" that just happens to have been named in English ("Social Design Agency") and that it intentionally creates memes and takes part into online discussions to interfere with the EU elections [11:11] Sompi_ And everyone who is worried about the rising prices of everything etc must be one of those Russian trolls [11:11] TR News "When the idea of using an LLM as a search engine started floating around" https://gregmorris.co.uk/2024/09/22/no-hallucinating-thats.html | Source: Greg Morris [11:11] TR Bot Greg Morris - No Hallucinating, Thats An Ad [11:12] schestowitz[TR2] yes, this is a typical method [11:12] Sompi_ Of course some trolls exists, but certain things in that article make it very clear that it is originally written by some American propagandist and then translated to Finnish [11:12] schestowitz[TR2] associate position x with group y [11:12] schestowitz[TR2] and when the connection is not substantiated, obfuscate a bit [11:13] TR News "The original Macintosh running Classic Mac OS was dependent on a great many components" https://eclecticlight.co/2024/09/21/a-brief-history-of-quickdraw-and-picts/ | Source: Howard Oakley [11:13] TR Bot A brief history of QuickDraw and PICTs The Eclectic Light Company [11:13] TR News "So this week-end, Ive searched for a real solution, and Ive found SepiaSearch." https://www.colino.net/wordpress/en/archives/2024/09/22/fuck-capitalism-in-general-and-fuck-youtube-in-particular/ | Source: Colin Leroy-Mira [11:13] TR Bot capitalism in general and fuck Youtube in particular colin@colino.net [11:14] Sompi_ Jessikka Aro even got a "journalist award" ( https://suurijournalistipalkinto.fi/ ) for "exposing Russian trolls" [11:14] TR Bot Suuri Journalistipalkinto [11:15] Sompi_ When in reality those Russian trolls were mostly just left-leaning political activists that have absolutely nothing to do with Russia. I know several of those people that she claimed to be trolls [11:16] TR News "One study done by the Defense Health Agency and released in April looked at cases of rhabdomyolysis in the U.S." https://taskandpurpose.com/news/tufts-university-lacrosse-hospitalized-navy-seals/ | Source: Task And Purpose [11:16] TR Bot Five college athletes hospitalized after workout with Navy SEAL - Task & Purpose [11:16] Sompi_ They were just criticising certain politics that are going to lead to a war, or increase its possibility [11:17] TR News [Old] "A Nov. 16 study highlights how the ease of manipulating the Orange Book has caused pricing issues" https://time.com/6336840/patent-manipulation-insulin-prices/ | Source: Time [11:17] TR Bot Makers Manipulate Patents to Keep Insulin Prices High | TIME [11:17] Sompi_ Our mainstream media is full of that "Russian troll" propaganda that claims that those Russian trolls are everywhere and everyone who doesn't agree with the mainstream narrative is one [11:18] TR News [Old] "Insulin is the primary treatment for type 1 and some type 2 diabetes but remains costly in the United States" https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.1004309 | Source: PLOS [11:18] TR Bot Patents and regulatory exclusivities on FDA-approved insulin products: A longitudinal database study, 19862019 | PLOS Medicine [11:18] TR News [Old] "solutions to the insulin-cost crisis are being considered" https://www.vox.com/2019/4/3/18293950/why-is-insulin-so-expensive | Source: Vox [11:18] TR Bot absurdly high cost of insulin, explained | Vox [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] sometimes russians boost a positioin [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] but that does mean they make this position [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] cause it [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] or express it [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] they can get a botfarm to boost locals [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] like CLICKFRAUD SPAMNIL does [11:19] schestowitz[TR2] it can make more visible particular positions [11:20] schestowitz[TR2] IOW, gaming the algos [11:20] TR News "PBMs are essentially the middlemen between drug manufacturers and insurance providers." https://text.npr.org/nx-s1-5121886 | Source: NPR [11:20] TR Bot FTC sues insulin middlemen, saying they pocket billions while patients face high costs [11:21] TR News [Old] "The number of patents listed with the FDA for approved insulins increased from 11 in 2004, to 28 in 2014, and 100" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(22)00354-0/fulltext | Source: The Lancet [11:21] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(22)00354-0/fulltext ) [11:22] TR News [Old] "But in the United States, access to insulin had never been a problem" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5001219/ | Source: NIH [11:22] TR Bot Insulin in America: A Right or a Privilege? - PMC [11:22] TR News "The bill also prohibits companies from sending notifications to people under 18 during school hours" https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/21/us/newsom-children-social-media-bill.html | Source: New York Times [11:22] TR Bot Newsom Signs Bill That Adds Protections for Children on Social Media - The New York Times [11:23] Sompi_ schestowitz[TR2]: As I wrote, I'm sure that some trolls exist, but it is not so large-scale operation (or possibly not even an officially organized operation) as the media here claims it to be [11:23] TR News "Over the last month I attended three different conferences around Tampa" https://connortumbleson.com/2024/09/23/conferences/ | Source: Connor Tumbleson [11:23] TR Bot Conferences [11:24] TR News [Old] "Somehow I am organizing a conference called Have you tried rubbing a database on it?" https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/writing/why-start-a-new-database-conference/ | Source: Jamie Brandon [11:24] TR Bot Why start a new database conference? [11:24] Sompi_ But the mainstream narrative here is that everyone who critisizes EU, globalism, NATO or things that damage our self sufficiency in things like food and energy is a "Russian troll" [11:25] TR News "2025 Feb 28. Put it in your calendar." https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/writing/hytradboi-2025/ | Source: Jamie Brandon [11:25] TR Bot HYTRADBOI 2025 [11:25] Sompi_ And sadly the majority of Finnish people have no ability to be objective towards the media. They literally believe everything that they hear from TV or read from Yle [11:26] Sompi_ There was even a poll made about it in the EU [11:26] Sompi_ Which nationalities trust their media the most [11:26] Sompi_ Finnish were on the top, with a very large margin [11:27] Sompi_ And it's weird, because our media is literally at least 80 % of just war and climate propaganda, and it's telling things that everyone can see that is just wrong, by just going outside or remembering things that happened just months ago [11:29] Sompi_ And seems that now Elon Musk is also one of the "bad guys" [11:31] *eidolon (~eidolon@ck29p7rieq5e8.irc) has joined #techrights [11:32] schestowitz[TR2] maybe they court him to bribe them like Bill Gates did [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] also, Yle got infiltrated by Microsoft [11:33] schestowitz[TR2] so there's _that_ [11:33] TR News "linear graphs" https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Conway%27s+law | [11:33] TR Bot Conway's law in nLab [11:34] schestowitz[TR2] Bill "Fayed" Gates [11:34] TR News "In this sense, writing a great blog post is about listening." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2024/blogging-is-listening/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [11:34] TR Bot Blogging & Listening - Jim Nielsens Blog [11:34] TR News "I think it's healthy to step outside our comfort zone from time to time." https://birming.com/comfort-zone-challenges/ | Source: Robert Birming [11:34] TR Bot Zone Challenges | Robert Birming [11:35] TR News "I think they were also able to dump the remaining cruft at the office park as a result." https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2024/09/22/colo/ | Source: Rachel [11:35] TR Bot A terrible way to jump into colocating your own stuff [11:36] TR News "old servers of the late 80s" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/WorkstationsHadServerBooting | Source: University of Toronto [11:36] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/WorkstationsHadServerBooting [11:36] TR News "Last time I was looking at letter spacing with my renderer to see how it compared to Google Chrome on Mac." https://www.redblobgames.com/blog/2024-09-22-sdf-antialiasing/ | Source: Amit Patel [11:36] TR Bot SDF antialiasing [11:36] Sompi_ Nowadays the management port is RJ-45 and very easily mixed with the actual network port that is meant to be connected to the public internet... [11:37] TR News [Old] "To make it quick, I wish I had known about port forwarding and tunneling earlier" https://ittavern.com/visual-guide-to-ssh-tunneling-and-port-forwarding/ | Source: IT Tavern [11:37] TR Bot guide to SSH tunneling and port forwarding - ITTAVERN.COM [11:37] Sompi_ I don't understand how that is not seen as a security risk [11:37] Sompi_ The RS-232 management port is safe, but new servers don't have that anymore [11:37] schestowitz[TR2] SECURITY IS NOT EH GOAL [11:37] schestowitz[TR2] nATIONAL SECURITY IS [11:37] schestowitz[TR2] national security means back doors etc. [11:37] schestowitz[TR2] not security [11:37] schestowitz[TR2] it means someone else is in control [11:38] schestowitz[TR2] collective "security" [11:38] TR News "Even if youre dead-set on having a single application serve both the marketing and application site" https://jmduke.com/posts/post/marketing-site/ | [11:38] TR Bot Why your marketing site should be separate Applied Cartography [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/trickle-down-insecurity [11:39] TR Bot Cybersecurity is a structural not behavioural problem. [11:39] schestowitz[TR2] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/flipping-the-cybersecurity-narrative [11:39] TR Bot Flipping the cybersecurity narrative [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/endpoint-sovereignty [11:40] TR Bot Endpoint sovereignty: Why the CrowdStrike outage is just the beginning. [11:40] schestowitz[TR2] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/computer-security-is-a-political-struggle [11:40] TR Bot Computer security is a political struggle [11:40] Sompi_ It seems that they want to get rid of the RS232 port because "it is old" but then they just replace it with something that is surely going to end up in catastrophical security problems [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] as usual [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] because "new" [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] new patents [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] new purchases [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] new price list [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] it's not bad because it's bad [11:41] schestowitz[TR2] it's "bad" because "it's old" [11:42] darwin Ali Dawah said on YouTube.com he's proud Islamic (sharia) law executes apostates, and that if Islam comes to power in the United Kingdom, that's what they'll do. YouTube promotes false equality so refuse to remove it. Can everyone please report him to YouTube for terrism? [11:42] darwin i find more & more new things are much worse [11:42] darwin to the extent it's almost universally the case [11:43] Sompi_ They are worse because they are not meant to be better. They are meant to just replace the old one. [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] "Ali Dawah "? [11:43] schestowitz[TR2] I know another Dawah channel [11:43] darwin and they're meant to do that because of the money--always about the money [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] he threatens some guy called thunderf00t [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] (Mason) [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] forgot his first name [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] he ecomplained to youtube [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] that the Dawah channel encouraged death for him [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] because he crriticisecd religion [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] afaik, he went further [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] getting his address [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] doxing him [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] not sure what youtube did at the end [11:44] schestowitz[TR2] but in the uk you don't simply ignore an islamist talking like t his [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] as they sometimes actually do it [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] Phil Mason [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] now I remember [11:45] TR News How To Install Terraform on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-terraform-ubuntu-24-04/ [11:45] TR Bot How To Install Terraform on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] it goes like this [11:45] schestowitz[TR2] radical gets your address [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] radical posts it online [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] radical tells the mob about what you allegedly ssaid [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] then hopes some minion will go to your homew [11:46] schestowitz[TR2] to please the "master" [11:46] TR News How To Install Couchbase on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-couchbase-ubuntu-24-04/ [11:46] TR Bot How To Install Couchbase on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot [11:47] Sompi_ darwin: And the "new thing enthusisasts" say that RJ-45 is better because RS232 is "slow", meaning that it has a lower baud rate. But the thing is that you don't need a lot of bandwidth to remote control a server. [11:47] TR News How To Install Lighttpd on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-lighttpd-ubuntu-24-04/ [11:47] TR Bot How To Install Lighttpd on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot [11:47] Sompi_ And for some reason they like the shiny javascript web interface more than the command line based interface that always works and doesn't require a specific version of Firefox or Chrome [11:48] repo wicked parody lol https://youtu.be/i_BAJl2IX3o [11:48] TR Bot https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=i_BAJl2IX3o [11:48] TR Bot not resolve host: inv.makerlab.tech ( status 0 @ https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=i_BAJl2IX3o ) [11:48] Sompi_ Server hardware used to be about reliability, but it seems to not be the case anymore [11:48] *darwin has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:48] repo Dell stuff still pretty solid [11:49] schestowitz[TR2] go away, ontario criminal [11:49] repo the software is always shit though [11:49] TR News How To Install K9s on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS https://idroot.us/install-k9s-ubuntu-24-04/ [11:49] TR Bot How To Install K9s on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS - idroot [11:49] Sompi_ I'm sure that every sysmaster who knows what they are doing prefers command line interfaces over web interfaces... [11:49] TR News How To Install phpMyAdmin on AlmaLinux 9 https://idroot.us/install-phpmyadmin-almalinux-9/ [11:49] TR Bot How To Install phpMyAdmin on AlmaLinux 9 - idroot [11:49] schestowitz[TR2] may routers arer bad for othber reasons [11:49] schestowitz[TR2] they update over the network [11:49] schestowitz[TR2] each time youy reboot them [11:49] schestowitz[TR2] so they are remoately controlled [11:49] schestowitz[TR2] via the bnetwork [11:50] schestowitz[TR2] it's a bit like network reboot [11:50] schestowitz[TR2] just because they are insider your hokme does not mean they are yours [11:50] schestowitz[TR2] or that you control them [11:50] schestowitz[TR2] they are just the ISP going outside the wires [11:50] schestowitz[TR2] and stepping through your door/wall [11:51] schestowitz[TR2] i bet there are already some routers with cameras and "voice control" [11:51] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. microphones [11:51] repo I got a few units from this company - https://protectli.com, one 2-port model and one 4-port model, been good so far. opnsense can do a lot router/firewall wise (fork of pfsense, bsd-based) [11:51] TR Bot Protectli: Trusted Firewall Appliances with Firmware Protection [11:51] TR News Upgrade Terraform: How to upgrade Terraform version 0.11 to latest https://linuxtechlab.com/upgrade-terraform-how-to-upgrade-terraform-version-0-11-to-latest/ [11:51] TR Bot Terraform: How to upgrade Terraform version 0.11 to latest - LinuxTechLab [11:51] repo they can ship with coreboot too open source bios [11:52] schestowitz[TR2] go away, ontario criminal [11:52] schestowitz[TR2] bad to jail or mental ward [11:52] repo lol why do you keep saying that [11:52] TR News Upgrade Terraform: How to upgrade the Terraform code from 0.13 to latest https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-upgrade-the-terraform-code-from-0-13-to-latest/ [11:52] TR Bot Terraform: How to upgrade the Terraform code from 0.13 to latest - LinuxTechLab [11:52] TR News Upgrade Terraform: How to upgrade Terraform code from 0.12 to 0.13 https://linuxtechlab.com/how-to-upgrade-terraform-code-from-0-12-to-0-13/ [11:52] TR Bot Terraform: How to upgrade Terraform code from 0.12 to 0.13 - LinuxTechLab [11:53] schestowitz[TR2] if you do not leave our IRC network, you will be back in handcutff very veyr soon [11:53] *IsambardPrince has quit (connection closed) [11:53] schestowitz[TR2] take your poison [11:53] TR News How To Safely Upgrade Ubuntu 22.04 to Ubuntu 24.04 https://thenewstack.io/how-to-safely-upgrade-ubuntu-22-04-to-ubuntu-24-04/ [11:53] TR Bot How To Safely Upgrade Ubuntu 22.04 to Ubuntu 24.04 - The New Stack [11:53] TR News How to install Umbraco CMS on Ubuntu 24.04, 22.04 or 20.04 LTS https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-umbraco-cms-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts/ [11:54] TR Bot How to install Umbraco CMS on Ubuntu 24.04, 22.04 or 20.04 LTS - Linux Shout [11:54] TR News How to Install WordPress on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 LTS Server https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts-server/ [11:54] TR Bot How to Install Wordpress on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 LTS Server - Linux Shout [11:54] TR News How to install PrestaShop on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 Server https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-prestashop-on-ubuntu-22-04-server/ [11:54] TR Bot How to install PrestaShop on Ubuntu 24.04 or 22.04 Server - Linux Shout [11:55] repo schestowitz-pi: who are you talking to? I assume it's me bc of the timing, sent you a PM [11:55] schestowitz[TR2] if you don't quit PMing me, we will initiave the process to get you RE-arrested [11:55] schestowitz[TR2] I have better things to do [11:55] TR News Cinnamon Spices How to use Extensions in GNU/Linux Mint Cinnamon https://www.reallinuxuser.com/cinnamon-spices-how-to-use-extensions-in-linux-mint-cinnamon/ [11:55] TR Bot Cinnamon Spices How to use Extensions in Linux Mint Cinnamon - Real Linux User [11:56] repo dude I've ever been to canada in my life except the airport. I use a VPS hosted in a datacenter in canada I think you're confused [11:56] TR News How to connect to serial devices with Tio on GNU/Linux https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/how-to-connect-to-serial-devices-with-tio-on-linux [11:56] TR Bot How to connect to serial devices with Tio on Linux | Tom's Hardware [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] [11:54] i don't live in canada, I've never been there except the airport lol [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] [11:54] whois 144.217.91.255 | grep OrgName [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] [11:54] OrgName: OVH Hosting, Inc. [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] [11:54] I IRC from a VPS in a datacenter [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] [11:54] I suppose you're trolling me? [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] i will repeat [11:56] repo yes [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] go away [11:56] repo exactly [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] or wqe will get you RE_Aarrested [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] which we can do [11:56] repo wat [11:56] schestowitz[TR2] *re-arrested [11:57] repo I think you're confusing me for someone else [11:57] schestowitz[TR2] And for some reason they like the shiny javascript web interface more than the command line based interface that always works and doesn't require a specific version of Firefox or Chrome [11:57] schestowitz[TR2] they usually test those webapps for gecko and chrm* [11:57] repo not a good look pushing away new people interested in your project(s) / news site & community [11:57] schestowitz[TR2] and nothing else [11:57] schestowitz[TR2] but falkon uses blink [11:57] schestowitz[TR2] so it can work [11:57] repo I found this place from a link on thelayoff [11:58] schestowitz[TR2] go away [11:58] repo I just happen to IRC from a VPS in canada [11:58] schestowitz[TR2] or i will initiate the process [11:58] schestowitz[TR2] and you will ba arrested again [11:58] schestowitz[TR2] *be [11:58] repo go for it [11:58] repo you're confused, I mean that respectfully [11:58] TR News Joaquim Rocha: How to fork: Best practices and guide https://joaquimrocha.com/2023/09/23/how-to-fork/ [11:58] TR Bot How to fork: Best practices and guide [11:59] TR News Latest Russian ICBM Test May Have Failed, Satellite Images Suggest https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-icbm-sarmat-failure/33129866.html [11:59] TR Bot Latest Russian ICBM Test May Have Failed, Satellite Images Suggest [11:59] TR News Certificate Authority Let's Encrypt Falls to 1% in Geminispace https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/Certificate_Authority_Let_s_Encrypt_Falls_to_1_in_Geminispace.shtml [11:59] TR Bot Techrights Certificate Authority Let's Encrypt Falls to 1% in Geminispace ● Sep 23 [12:00] TR News Torrential rain in South Korea forces 1,500 to evacuate, causes widespread damage https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/torrential-rainfall-in-korea-forces-1500-to-evacuate-causes-widespread-damage-to-homes-roads [12:00] TR Bot Torrential rain in South Korea forces 1,500 to evacuate, causes widespread damage | The Straits Times [12:00] Sompi_ maybe repo is not mjg [12:00] repo I am not, nor do I know who that is [12:01] *Guest10948 has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [12:01] Sompi_ doesn't mjg usually post his propaganda on the channel or start harassing people who are not admins via private messages [12:01] Sompi_ what would he gain by sending private messages to the admin [12:01] repo techrights posted a link to the layoff and I know folks who work at IBM and this is how I Found this place [12:01] repo im truly an organic new person on the internet [12:02] TR News Gunnar Wolf: 50 years of queries https://gwolf.org/2024/09/50-years-of-queries.html [12:02] TR Bot Gunnar Wolf 50 years of queries [12:02] repo I can understand how you'd be a bit paranoid about trolls or whatever [12:02] TR News Zelensky lands in US to discuss 'victory plan' with Biden https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240922-zelensky-lands-in-us-to-discuss-war-plan-with-biden [12:02] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240922-zelensky-lands-in-us-to-discuss-war-plan-with-biden ) [12:02] repo but that's not me, I am not who you think I am that's all I'll say msore about it [12:02] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:04] repo ive been on irc since mid nineties but first I've heard of this place, sites etc. seemed inline with my positions on things, particulary the ibm stuff. [12:04] TR News Kazakhstan Detains Russian Citizen Wanted By Moscow For Anti-War Stance https://www.rferl.org/a/kazakhstan-russia-war-arrest-wanted-list/33129799.html [12:04] TR Bot Kazakhstan Detains Russian Citizen Wanted By Moscow For Anti-War Stance [12:04] schestowitz[TR2] Sompi_: we covered that article about routers at Yle [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] they have not written much about it since [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] but the main threat from russia is likely not those routers [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] like openwrt [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] but various devices [12:05] schestowitz[TR2] that people carry around and are more wiidespread then openwrt [12:06] TR News Timescale's 2024 State of PostgreSQL Survey Open until Sept 30 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/timescales-2024-state-of-postgresql-survey-open-until-sept-30-2935/ [12:06] TR Bot PostgreSQL: Timescale's 2024 State of PostgreSQL Survey Open until Sept 30 [12:06] TR News After '3 Strikes' (Watching YouTube Without Ads) YouTube Accuses You of Violating "YouTube's Terms of Service" (TOS), Blocks You From Watching Material (Even Your Own!) (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/21/After_3_Strikes_Watching_YouTube_Without_Ads_YouTube_Accuses_Yo.shtml [12:06] TR Bot Techrights After '3 Strikes' (Watching YouTube Without Ads) YouTube Accuses You of Violating "YouTube's Terms of Service" (TOS), Blocks You From Watching Material (Even Your Own!) [12:07] repo schestowitz-pi: think about what I said, if I was a troll or this mjg person why would I PM you my IP address (which you so nicely pasted into the channel - please delete from logs) if I had something to hide. Perhaps you didn't realize its a VPS? I can understand apprehension on new people but if you're trying to build a community this isn't the way to do it. I'd like to [12:07] repo remain here and contribute but I want to make sure it's cool and we're square. [12:08] TR News "Hey guys, welcome back to my R-tips newsletter." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/introducing-gt_summarytools-analyze-your-data-faster-with-r/ | Source: Rlang [12:08] TR Bot gt_summarytools: Analyze Your Data Faster With R | R-bloggers [12:09] TR News "Sometimes it feels a bit silly when a simple statistical model has a fancy-sounding name." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/a-bayesian-plackett-luce-model-in-stan-applied-to-pinball-championship-data/ | Source: Rlang [12:09] TR Bot Bayesian Plackett-Luce model in Stan applied to pinball championship data | R-bloggers [12:09] TR News "This short blog post is concerned with the latter scenario in Linux." https://mazzo.li/posts/uring-multiplex.html | Source: Francesco Mazzoli [12:09] TR Bot Waiting for many things at once with `io_uring` [12:10] TR News "I just tell people to either use an enum instead of a boolean" https://jmduke.com/posts/post/enums/ | [12:10] TR Bot Always use an enum for your status field Applied Cartography [12:10] TR News "I think this is just a really cool technique" https://brioche.dev/blog/portable-dynamically-linked-pacakges-on-linux/ | [12:10] TR Bot ( status 308 @ https://brioche.dev/blog/portable-dynamically-linked-packages-on-linux ) [12:11] Sompi_ the routers are more of a western threat [12:11] Sompi_ Russia doesn't have access to them [12:11] schestowitz[TR2] they are made in china [12:11] schestowitz[TR2] so the threat is multifaceted [12:11] schestowitz[TR2] the west might think it controls these [12:11] schestowitz[TR2] but many components are not audited [12:11] schestowitz[TR2] or locally sourced [12:11] Sompi_ Chinese control the hardware and USA controls the software [12:12] repo coreboot / libreboot helps a bit. Can't do much about binary firmware blobs but at least there's ways to disable Intel ME and replace BIOS with FOSS [12:12] TR News "My fear is that we will refuse to avoid the mistakes of the Web 2.0 era and work to develop networks" https://www.jacky.wtf/essays/2024/one-over-other/ | Source: Jacky Alcin [12:12] TR Bot Protocol Bickering is Going to Wreck the Open Web - Jacky Alcin [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] Sompi_: they can try to change that [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] if it's not too late [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] in some contexts they swap out chinese routers [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] like 5G [12:12] schestowitz[TR2] where also the rich people's comms go [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] even if they use a very secure "phone" [12:13] schestowitz[TR2] so china can tap in [12:13] Sompi_ repo: Now new computers even require the ROM firmware to be "trusted" [12:14] TR News "WP Engine is not WordPress" https://wordpress.org/news/2024/09/wp-engine/ | Source: WordPress [12:14] TR Bot WP Engine is not WordPress WordPress News [12:14] repo is this a TPM thing? or "secureboot" ? [12:14] schestowitz[TR2] Sompi_: don't talk to the ontario criminal [12:14] *repo hugs his Thinkpad T61 from 2009 running Slackware [12:14] Sompi_ repo: No, it is a much lower level thing [12:14] TR News "As pointed out by another person online" https://www.jacky.wtf/essays/2024/against-microblogging/ | Source: Jacky Alcin [12:14] TR Bot The Potential Case against Microblogging - Jacky Alcin [12:14] Sompi_ The CPU itself is hardcoded to only run ROM code that is signed by Intel [12:15] TR News macadie [12:15] TR News "The admins running the Emacs.ch server have decided to shut it down. They gave everyone 90 days notice." https://macadie.info/2024/09/21/i-am-on-a-new-mastodon-server/ | Source: Eric MacAdie [12:15] TR Bot I am on a new Mastodon Server MacAdie Web Blog [12:15] repo I'm just going to assume this ontario criminal thing is an initiation hazing ritual and I'll pass through persistence of wanting to be here lol. If so that's cool. [12:15] Sompi_ I don't remember the three-letter-name of that technology [12:16] Sompi_ "technology" [12:16] repo sounds terrifying [12:16] TR News "I booted Debian Linux on a 4-bit intel microprocessor from 1971 - the first microprocessor in the world - the 4004." https://dmitry.gr/?r=05.Projects&proj=35.%20Linux4004 | [12:16] TR Bot - Dmitry.GR [12:16] Sompi_ it's just the same old trusted computing shit but now it also exists in the CPU microcode level [12:17] repo IIRC the AMD FX8350 or whereabouts were the last AMD's to not have a hardware backdoor like Intel ME. I almost sold mine but gonna hold onto it [12:17] TR News (NEW): Huawei to dump Windows for PCs,use own HarmonyOS instead https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Huawei_to_dump_Windows_for_PCs_use_own_HarmonyOS_instead.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Huawei_to_dump_Windows_for_PCs_use_own_HarmonyOS_instead.gmi [12:17] TR Bot Tux Machines Huawei to dump Windows for PCs,use own HarmonyOS instead [12:17] Sompi_ repo: CPUs can also have hidden undocumented instructions that instantly give a malicious program ring-0 access [12:18] Sompi_ And every operating system where the programs are native CPU code is vulnerable to that [12:18] Sompi_ but lEEt/OS isn't [12:19] Sompi_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Execution_Technology I think this was it? The firmware ROM has to be signed by the manufacturer or else the computer just doesn't boot. So you cannot write your own firmware or use Coreboot [12:19] TR Bot Trusted Execution Technology - Wikipedia [12:19] TR News "In addition, a few features and UI changes postponed from Plasma 6.2 have started to land in 6.3." https://pointieststick.com/2024/09/20/this-week-in-plasma-polishing-like-mad/ | Source: Nate Graham [12:19] TR Bot This week in Plasma: polishing like mad Adventures in Linux and KDE [12:19] repo really nothing is secure unless it's air-gapped and off the internet, though I imagine if you have much older gear, maybe disabled IME or crippled it and dont run windows you're likely more trouble than it's worth. also consider govt is pretty incompetent and lazy [12:20] repo lol I still remember the obamacare website fiasco [12:20] Sompi_ every lEEt/OS application is in bytecode so the programs don't have access to those undocumented instructions :P [12:21] TR News "We asked the folks here at The Verge what they have on their desks or in their offices that they keep just for the hell of it because they like it, because it means something special, or just because." https://www.theverge.com/24248065/favorites-desk-toys-keepsakes | Source: The Verge [12:21] TR Bot The Verges favorite home office keepsakes - The Verge [12:21] TR News Race to the Red Planet: China accelerates Mars mission timeline, signals confidence in exploration https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/race-to-the-red-planet-china-accelerates-mars-mission-timeline-signals-confidence-in-exploration [12:21] TR Bot Race to the Red Planet: China accelerates Mars mission timeline, signals confidence in exploration | The Straits Times [12:21] TR News IBM's Mishandling of CentOS, RHEL (Now Proprietary) and Software Patents Will Doom GNU/Linux as a Free System https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/IBM_s_Mishandling_of_CentOS_RHEL_Now_Proprietary_and_Software_P.shtml [12:21] TR Bot Techrights IBM's Mishandling of CentOS, RHEL (Now Proprietary) and Software Patents Will Doom GNU/Linux as a Free System [12:22] TR News Unethically Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel With LLMs https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/21/Unethically_Scraping_the_Bottom_of_the_Barrel_With_LLMs.shtml [12:22] TR Bot Techrights Unethically Scraping the Bottom of the Barrel With LLMs [12:22] Sompi_ In fact Intel CPUs have many undocumented instructions and no-one outside of Intel (and probably some governmental agencies) really know what they do and what they are for [12:23] TR News Beheadings in Twitter/X (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/Beheadings_in_Twitter_X.shtml [12:23] TR Bot Techrights Beheadings in Twitter/X [12:23] TR News [Meme] Teaser: Blackmail Artists (updated) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/Meme_Teaser_Blackmail_Artists.shtml [12:23] TR Bot Techrights [Meme] Teaser: Blackmail Artists [12:23] TR News Undernet (IRC) Turning 32 Shortly and It Still Has About 16,000 Users Online (at Any Given Time) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/Undernet_IRC_Turning_32_Shortly_and_It_Still_Has_About_16_000_U.shtml [12:23] TR Bot Techrights Undernet (IRC) Turning 32 Shortly and It Still Has About 16,000 Users Online (at Any Given Time) [12:23] repo well everyone is screwed at that point if you're plugged into the network, unless you're on an older AMD? even then who knows [12:24] Sompi_ Instructions that are not documented but somehow don't trigger the "Invalid opcode" exception (int 0x06) [12:24] TR News Microsoft Will Collapse Piecewise https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/Microsoft_Will_Collapse_Piecewise.shtml [12:24] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft Will Collapse Piecewise [12:24] TR News A Year Since the Big Switch - Part I - Why We Moved Away From WordPress, Drupal, and MediaWiki (PHP and Dynamic, Database-Driven) https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/22/A_Year_Since_the_Big_Switch_Part_I_Why_We_Moved_Away_From_WordP.shtml [12:24] TR Bot Techrights A Year Since the Big Switch - Part I - Why We Moved Away From WordPress, Drupal, and MediaWiki (PHP and Dynamic, Database-Driven) [12:24] Sompi_ repo: But the malware that uses those undocumented instructions can work offline too [12:25] repo yeah but how does something get exfiltrated then? some sophisticated microwave / OTA thing? [12:25] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_howtos.gmi [12:26] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [12:26] repo Sompi_: unless it's just to cause damage [12:26] Sompi_ Via closed source software, of course [12:27] repo well if it's air-gapped and you're running Linux/BSD etc [12:27] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [12:27] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [12:27] repo there's nothing that's zero risk when it comes to a computer but that seems like a lot of trouble otherwise [12:28] repo hell, I think systemd is sketchy [12:28] repo esp the sprawl of it taking over things [12:29] repo gonna go back to Slackware for my work laptop/desktop and personal systems, but that's mostly because I miss it and learned on it but it still doesn't have systemd [12:30] TR News (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi [12:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers [12:32] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_leftovers.gmi [12:32] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [12:34] TR News This Week in KDE Apps https://blogs.kde.org/2024/09/22/this-week-in-kde-apps/ [12:34] TR Bot This Week in KDE Apps - KDE Blogs [12:35] TR News Techrights Links 23/09/2024: TLS Weaknesses Explained, Banksy Art Recovered https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Links_23_09_2024_TLS_Weaknesses_Explained_Banksy_Art_Recovered.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Links_23_09_2024_TLS_Weaknesses_Explained_Banksy_Art_Recovered.gmi [12:35] TR Bot Techrights Links 23/09/2024: TLS Weaknesses Explained, Banksy Art Recovered [12:35] TR News 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 22nd, 2024 https://9to5linux.com/9to5linux-weekly-roundup-september-22nd-2024 [12:35] TR Bot Weekly Roundup: September 22nd, 2024 - 9to5Linux [12:36] TR News 4 Best Free and Open Source Frontends for GnuPG https://www.linuxlinks.com/best-free-open-source-frontends-gnupg/ [12:36] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Frontends for GnuPG - LinuxLinks [12:36] TR News zoxide smarter cd command https://www.linuxlinks.com/zoxide-smarter-cd-command/ [12:36] TR Bot - smarter cd command - LinuxLinks [12:36] TR News trashbhuwan CLI trashing utility https://www.linuxlinks.com/trashbhuwan-cli-trashing-utility/ [12:36] TR Bot - CLI trashing utility - LinuxLinks [12:37] TR News pm switch between projects https://www.linuxlinks.com/pm-switch-between-projects/ [12:37] TR Bot - switch between projects - LinuxLinks [12:37] TR News xhtml2pdf HTML to PDF converter using Python https://www.linuxlinks.com/xhtml2pdf-html-pdf-converter-python/ [12:37] TR Bot - HTML to PDF converter using Python - LinuxLinks [12:37] TR News PDFio PDF read/write library https://www.linuxlinks.com/pdfio-pdf-read-write-library/ [12:37] TR Bot - PDF read/write library - LinuxLinks [12:40] TR News Back doors and Torvalds forced to accept what was a GPL violation years ago https://www.neowin.net/news/linus-torvalds-accepts-microsofts-hyper-v-upgrade-so-next-gen-linux-boots-faster/ [12:40] TR Bot Linus Torvalds accepts Microsoft's Hyper-V upgrade so next gen Linux boots faster - Neowin [12:44] TR News "I already run Debian 12, so I decided to install the metapackage on my system and return to the #! days for a bit. I quickly became disillusioned with the mouse-centric flow of Openbox, and also, look how they murdered my boy: [...]" gemini://tilde.town/~hush/gemlog/2024-09-22.gmi [12:55] TR News SpellBinding EGHIYWT Wordo: MYRRH gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2024-09-23.gmi [12:56] TR News "Mais bon sang, jutilise aussi des logiciels propritaires. Je lutte pour le logiciel libre, mais je ne suis (heureusement) pas Richard Stallman" gemini://ploum.net/2024-09-23-vieuxcons.gmi [12:58] *SomeGoat (~SomeGoat@r9ruxqydtdctn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:59] TR News Firewire refuses to die, but needs help as hardware becomes rarer, maintainer seeks volunteers for device testing https://www.tomshardware.com/peripherals/firewire-refuses-to-die-but-needs-help-as-hardware-becomes-rarer-maintainer-seeks-volunteers-for-device-testing [12:59] TR Bot Firewire refuses to die, but needs help as hardware becomes rarer, maintainer seeks volunteers for device testing | Tom's Hardware ● Sep 23 [13:02] TR News Mike Microsoft... cannot call E.E.E. what it is https://www.phoronix.com/news/Windows-Dev-Kit-2023-Linux [13:02] TR Bot DeviceTree Gets Microsoft Windows Dev Kit 2023 Booting Linux - Phoronix [13:03] TR News EasyOS and Bedrock GNU/Linux https://bkhome.org/news/202409/easyos-and-bedrock-linux.html [13:03] TR Bot EasyOS and Bedrock Linux [13:04] TR News We moved our home DB to PostgreSQL https://rubenerd.com/moved-another-personal-project-to-postgres/ [13:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd [13:09] TR News mintCast 446 The Beauty of Cinnamon, and The Downfall of Redbox https://mintcast.org/446-the-beauty-of-cinnamon-and-the-downfall-of-redbox/ [13:09] TR Bot 446 The Beauty of Cinnamon, and The Downfall of Redbox mintCast [13:11] TR News Open Source Security Podcast Episode 447 The Tidelift 2024 open source maintainer report https://opensourcesecurity.io/2024/09/22/episode-447-the-tidelift-2024-open-source-maintainer-report/ Tidelift is Connected to Microsoft http://techrights.org/o/2022/04/19/tidelift-concern-troll/ [13:11] TR Bot Episode 447 The Tidelift 2024 open source maintainer report Open Source Security [13:11] TR Bot Tidelift is Connected to Microsoft and It Does Not Spread a Positive Message for the Free/Open Source Community [13:13] TR News Introducing OptimalTransportNetworks.jl: Optimal Transport Networks in Spatial Equilibrium https://www.r-bloggers.com/2024/09/introducing-optimaltransportnetworks-jl-optimal-transport-networks-in-spatial-equilibrium/ [13:13] TR Bot OptimalTransportNetworks.jl: Optimal Transport Networks in Spatial Equilibrium | R-bloggers [13:14] TR News Linux Saloon 128 | Open Mic Night https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/linux-saloon/ls-128/ [13:14] TR Bot Saloon 128 | Open Mic Night - Linux Saloon - TuxDigital [13:15] TR News Coroot 1.4: Simplify PostgreSQL Monitoring (Open Source) https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/coroot-14-simplify-postgresql-monitoring-open-source-2915/ [13:16] TR Bot PostgreSQL: Coroot 1.4: Simplify PostgreSQL Monitoring (Open Source) [13:16] TR News Justice is Not Silent: The Case Against One-Word Affirmances in the Federal Circuit https://patentlyo.com/patent/2024/09/appellate-decision-reasoning.html [13:16] TR Bot Justice is Not Silent: The Case Against One-Word Affirmances in the Federal Circuit | Patently-O [13:17] TR News Qubes OS Summit 2024 has concluded; videos now available https://www.qubes-os.org/news/2024/09/22/qubes-os-summit-2024-has-concluded-videos-now-available/ [13:17] TR Bot Qubes OS Summit 2024 has concluded; videos now available | Qubes OS [13:20] TR News del delete command with integrated undelete function https://www.linuxlinks.com/del-delete-command-integrated-undelete-function/ [13:20] TR Bot - delete command with integrated undelete function - LinuxLinks [13:30] MinceR 23 072908 < IsambardPrince> The government is the biggest bunch of nonsense. [13:30] MinceR states collect taxes at gunpoint (threat of violence) [13:31] MinceR therefore states practice armed robbery [13:31] schestowitz[TR2] gunpoint? [13:31] schestowitz[TR2] over taxes? [13:32] TR News SONOFF ZBMINIR2 tiny Zigbee 3.0 switch also works as a Zigbee router with up to 64 sub-devices https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/09/23/sonoff-zbminir2-tiny-zigbee-3-0-switch-also-works-as-a-zigbee-router-with-up-to-64-sub-devices/ [13:32] TR Bot SONOFF ZBMINIR2 tiny Zigbee 3.0 switch also works as a Zigbee router with up to 64 sub-devices - CNX Software [13:32] MinceR https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/only-in-USA-pics-21-66e854ad5fa33__700.jpg [13:32] TR News pgEdge Distributed PostgreSQL: The Next Generation Introducing pgEdge Platform v24.7, Constellation Release https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgedge-distributed-postgresql-the-next-generation-introducing-pgedge-platform-v247-constellation-release-2909/ [13:32] TR Bot PostgreSQL: pgEdge Distributed PostgreSQL: The Next Generation Introducing pgEdge Platform v24.7, Constellation Release [13:32] MinceR schestowitz[TR2]: well, what happens if you don't pay? [13:33] schestowitz[TR2] then jesus is watching [13:33] schestowitz[TR2] and god watches [13:33] schestowitz[TR2] and thhen you get struck by lightening [13:37] TR News (NEW): Postgres/PostgreSQL: pgEdge Platform, Coroot, PostgreSQL at Home https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Postgres_PostgreSQL_pgEdge_Platform_Coroot_PostgreSQL_at_Home.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Postgres_PostgreSQL_pgEdge_Platform_Coroot_PostgreSQL_at_Home.gmi [13:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Postgres/PostgreSQL: pgEdge Platform, Coroot, PostgreSQL at Home [13:41] TR News Cytron Motion 2350 Pro Review: The RP2350 Robot Platform https://www.tomshardware.com/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-pico/cytron-motion-2350-pro-review [13:41] TR Bot Cytron Motion 2350 Pro Review: The RP2350 Robot Platform | Tom's Hardware [13:42] darwin i watched Vice Media's documentary on North Korea some years ago (they were maybe the first Western reporters let in) and they got their higher-capacity memory card for camera confiscated, because they lied about what size it is. North Korea doesn't want people to have the right to use technology to make documentaries [13:43] darwin a weird part is they served the reporter or his team at a banquet hall, and he was the only one there [13:44] darwin i guess they didn't have enough decent food due to central planning [13:44] darwin the food got a poor review [13:44] schestowitz[TR2] korean food does not taste good [13:44] schestowitz[TR2] either way [13:44] schestowitz[TR2] it's "okay" [13:46] MinceR i had a hamburger at a korean restaurant, it was great [13:46] MinceR it was south korean, though :> [13:46] schestowitz[TR2] rice, spice,a nd sugar [13:47] schestowitz[TR2] "South Koreans angered by China's cultural claim to bibimbap" https://koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2024/09/281_382758.html [13:47] TR Bot South Koreans angered by China's cultural claim to bibimbap - The Korea Times [13:47] schestowitz[TR2] MADE IN CHINA [13:47] schestowitz[TR2] a lot of Japanese food also [13:48] schestowitz[TR2] there are chinese imitations [13:48] MinceR communist china has to have absolutely everything [13:48] schestowitz[TR2] they are cheaper [13:48] darwin Amazon ps hiding verified positive reviews of Robert Spencer's (MA) 'Muhammad: A Critical Biography', and pushing unverified negative reviews to the top. They did same to his 'The Critical Quran' and outright banned Peter McLoughlin's & Tommy Robinson's "Mohammed's Koran: Why Muslims Kill for Islam" plus all their other books (even other topics). I also was reading from some neoplatonic philosophers who got into politics in ebooks on Amazon and [13:48] darwin they had all their 200+ books banned [13:48] darwin 'is' [13:48] MinceR they should have some thermonuclear explosions over their major cities [13:48] MinceR we should find out if they wanted that too [13:48] MinceR i'm fucking tired of communists [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] is hungary communist to? [13:49] MinceR yes [13:49] darwin would Amazon be communists if it makes money, because they love banning stuff? [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] or just has fans of it? [13:49] MinceR hungary serves the communist party of china [13:49] schestowitz[TR2] aamazonis a filter [13:50] darwin there are few real communist ideology countries left. Eastern Europe doesn't include any, I think. A few years ago the last one was voted out [13:50] TR News "Hackfest, A New Event For Your European Calendar" https://hackaday.com/2024/09/22/hackfest-a-new-event-for-your-european-calendar/ | Source: Hackaday [13:50] TR Bot A New Event For Your European Calendar | Hackaday [13:51] TR News Owning a Cat Could Double Your Schizophrenia Risk, Research Suggests https://www.sciencealert.com/owning-a-cat-could-double-your-schizophrenia-risk-research-suggests [13:51] TR Bot a Cat Could Double Your Schizophrenia Risk, Research Suggests : ScienceAlert [13:51] darwin i think it's only China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea, and Vietnam, most/all who have been transitioning to market socialism a.k.a. social capitalism (same system as used in social democracy (most Europe), some democratic socialism, and fascism) [13:52] MinceR not really [13:52] MinceR in hungary, the state party handed entire markets to their pals and has determined prices for months [13:52] MinceR (which, predictably, caused inflation) [13:52] darwin Hungary is a former communist country but they've been capitalistic since the fall of the USSR. They don't have communes. That's just state capitalism [13:52] schestowitz[TR2] munism.com.hu [13:53] MinceR and in general if you have a business that is profitable in hungary, eventually the communists will "offer" to "buy" it [13:53] MinceR as for communist china, every business has at least someone from the party in the management supervising it [13:54] MinceR if a foreigner business wants to operate in communist china, they're required to establish a joint venture with a local corporation [13:54] MinceR (which are already run by the CPC) [13:54] MinceR but i bet it's fun to play with words and try to pretend that orban is not in bed with putler and putler is not in bed with winnie the pooh ● Sep 23 [14:00] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/gallery/AHuN0Nb = https://rimgo.pussthecat.org/gallery/AHuN0Nb [14:00] TR Bot my leather shop helper. - Album on Imgur [14:00] TR Bot Baxter, my leather shop helper. - rimgo [14:05] TR News "You browse Tumblr for a while, reblogging a picture of boxed water." https://www.michigandaily.com/arts/b-side/the-teenage-b-side/ [14:05] TR Bot The Teenage B-Side [14:05] TR News "IPhones Electrically-Released Adhesive" https://hackaday.com/2024/09/22/hands-on-with-new-iphones-electrically-released-adhesive/ | Source: Hackaday [14:05] TR Bot With New IPhones Electrically-Released Adhesive | Hackaday [14:07] TR News 3D Printing https://hackaday.com/2024/09/22/3d-printing-a-wire-wrap-tool-emergency-fix-or-permanent-solution/ | Source: Hackaday [14:07] TR Bot Printing A Wire-Wrap Tool: Emergency Fix Or Permanent Solution? | Hackaday [14:08] TR News "Thanks a lot, Elon. 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[14:23] TR News LibreOffice 24.8: Best New Features https://www.debugpoint.com/libreoffice-24-8-features/ [14:23] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/libreoffice-24-8-features/ ) [14:25] TR News An introspective analysis: RPKI deployment under scrutiny https://blog.apnic.net/2024/09/23/an-introspective-analysis-rpki-deployment-under-scrutiny/ [14:25] TR Bot An introspective analysis: RPKI deployment under scrutiny | APNIC Blog [14:26] TR News Linux: Create and Connect to an NFS Share https://thenewstack.io/linux-create-and-connect-to-an-nfs-share/ [14:26] TR Bot Linux: Create and Connect to an NFS Share - The New Stack [14:28] TR News Adnan Hodzic: Effortless GNU/Linux backups: Power of OpenZFS Snapshots on Ubuntu 24.04 https://foolcontrol.org/?p=4781 [14:28] TR Bot Effortless Linux backups: Power of OpenZFS Snapshots on Ubuntu 24.04 FoolControl: Phear the penguin [14:29] TR News Easiest guide to install Terraform on Windows, GNU/Linux & MacOS https://linuxtechlab.com/easiest-guide-to-install-terraform-on-windows-linux-macos/ [14:29] TR Bot guide to install Terraform on Windows, Linux & MacOS - LinuxTechLab [14:29] TR News Kile - May Be The Best LaTeX IDE for Linux, backdoored Windows and macOS https://medevel.com/kile/ [14:29] TR Bot Kile - May Be The Best LaTeX IDE for Linux, Windows and macOS [14:30] TR News Upgrade Terraform : Upgrade Terraform code from 0.11 to 0.12 https://linuxtechlab.com/upgrade-terraform-upgrade-terraform-code-from-0-11-to-0-12/ [14:30] TR Bot Terraform : Upgrade Terraform code from 0.11 to 0.12 - LinuxTechLab [14:31] TR News Docker Build Args: Explain with Practical Examples https://linuxbuz.com/devops/docker-build-args-in-dockerfile [14:31] TR Bot Build Args: Explain with Practical Examples - LinuxBuz [14:31] TR News Wine 9.18 Launches with Enhanced Features https://linuxiac.com/wine-9-18-launches-with-enhanced-features/ [14:31] TR Bot Wine 9.18 Launches with Enhanced Features [14:32] TR News First Look at Ubuntu 24.10 (Oracular Oriole) Beta https://linuxiac.com/ubuntu-24-10-oracular-oriole-beta/ [14:32] TR Bot First Look at Ubuntu 24.10 (Oracular Oriole) Beta [14:32] TR News COVID-19 Lockdowns Prematurely Aged Teenagers' Brains, Study Finds https://www.sciencealert.com/covid-19-lockdowns-prematurely-aged-teenagers-brains-study-finds [14:32] TR Bot Lockdowns Prematurely Aged Teenagers' Brains, Study Finds : ScienceAlert [14:34] TR News "As a Windows user, I switched to Linux successfully. 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[14:35] TR News Linus Torvalds explains why aging Linux developers are a good thing https://techcrunch.com/2024/09/22/linus-torvalds-explains-why-aging-linux-developers-are-a-good-thing/ [14:35] TR Bot Torvalds explains why aging Linux developers are a good thing | TechCrunch [14:44] TR News (NEW): KaOS Linux 2024.09 Adds Calligra as Default Office Suite, Improves Installation https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/KaOS_Linux_2024_09_Adds_Calligra_as_Default_Office_Suite_Improv.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/KaOS_Linux_2024_09_Adds_Calligra_as_Default_Office_Suite_Improv.gmi [14:44] TR Bot Tux Machines KaOS Linux 2024.09 Adds Calligra as Default Office Suite, Improves Installation ● Sep 23 [15:08] *SomeGoat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:45] *SomeGoat (~SomeGoat@r9ruxqydtdctn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 23 [16:12] *huggi (sid80718@joseon/user/huggi) has joined #techrights [16:16] lxo schestowitz[TR2], it's unlikely that there'd be blobs in the RT patches, but I'll only know for sure when I get around to preparing 6.12-rc*-gnu, which should be around rc5..7 [16:38] cblinux it's hard to stop the 40 million sloc git machinery, that linux is, ditch it and rewrite from scratch [16:39] *psydruid doesn't even bother [16:41] cblinux it would be a true unix philosophical exercise :) "rewrite from scratch instead of trying to fix it" - or riding a bloated horse [16:44] cblinux this is why aging developers are also a bad thing [16:46] cblinux until then BSDs, alternative and new systems, and "clueless young developers" (Torvalds) have good chances [16:48] *EnGeit (~SomeGoat@r9ruxqydtdctn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:48] *EnGeit has quit (connection closed) [16:49] psydruid but yes, (re)write from scratch is what I prefer too ● Sep 23 [17:27] eidolon https://www.thedrive.com/news/you-can-snag-a-free-bottle-of-volkswagens-ketchup-for-a-limited-time [17:27] TR Bot You Can Snag a Free Bottle of Volkswagen's Ketchup for a Limited Time [17:29] MinceR is it as low quality as their alleged cars? ● Sep 23 [18:04] psydruid does it come with a free volkswagenwurst? [18:09] lxo schestowitz[TR2], shameless plug: https://www.fsfla.org/blogs/lxo/pub/neurodivergence may be relevant and hopefully informative in the context of the various cases of mistreatment of neurodivergent people, that are becoming so common in our communities [18:09] TR Bot ::[FSFLA]:: Neurodiversity and neurodivergence: for greater understanding [18:14] eidolon they make in-roads into our ketchup market and then drive the cars in [18:14] eidolon "spiced" [18:14] eidolon what are they hiding? [18:17] eidolon https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/2008-05-24_Pittsburgh_014_Penn_St%2C_13th_St%2C_Heinz_Building_%282669437590%29.jpg [18:18] eidolon get a look at that lot! [18:19] eidolon the taste of day heinie holes and day old dirndles [18:23] MinceR heinz > volkswagen [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: https://techrights.org/n/2024/01/28/European_Patent_Office_Wants_Staff_to_Work_More_Hours_for_No_In.shtml https://techrights.org/o/2021/12/12/exploiting-autistic-people/ https://techrights.org/o/2020/10/12/phipps-osi-was-wrong/ [18:25] TR Bot Techrights European Patent Office Wants Staff to Work More Hours, for No Increase in Pay, and Abandon Families (E.g. Children, Elderly People, Disabled Family Members) [18:25] TR Bot EPO Management Now Exploits Autistic People as White-washing Communication Exercise for an Organization Which Has Breached Fundamental Rights [18:25] TR Bot Richard Stallman (FSF) Was Right, Simon Phipps (OSI) Was Wrong [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] I cannot find the main one I am looking for though [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] it's a lot older [18:25] schestowitz[TR2] and very long [18:27] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:28] schestowitz[TR2] it is feasible to find it [18:28] schestowitz[TR2] but it would be a huge task [18:28] schestowitz[TR2] like grepping the archive [18:28] TR News Floods in Europe caused by Vb conditions. What are they? https://www.dw.com/en/floods-in-europe-caused-by-vb-conditions-what-are-they/a-69264729 [18:28] TR Bot in Europe caused by Vb conditions. What are they? DW 09/13/2024 [18:29] TR News Lots of lessons on the tech side https://www.dw.com/en/exploding-hezbollah-pagers-how-did-it-happen/a-70250960 but sensitive subject because people died [18:29] TR Bot Hezbollah pagers: How did it happen? DW 09/18/2024 [18:30] TR News Extreme weather: Flooding and wildfires across Europe https://www.dw.com/en/extreme-weather-flooding-and-wildfires-across-europe/live-70247619 [18:30] TR Bot weather: Flooding and wildfires across Europe DW 09/18/2024 [18:31] TR News mould, yummy! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/kirkland-signature-greek-yogurt-recall-1.7323522 [18:31] TR Bot Costco's Greek yogurt recalled across Canada due to mould | CBC News [18:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [18:31] TR News FBI https://www.dw.com/en/fbi-disrupts-major-chinese-hacking-group-director-says/a-70262349 [18:31] TR Bot disrupts major Chinese hacking group, director says DW 09/18/2024 [18:32] TR News 'Ghost' used to be SSG, a benign piece of Free software https://www.dw.com/en/global-police-sting-topples-ghost-criminal-messaging-app/a-70250952 [18:32] TR Bot police sting topples 'Ghost' criminal messaging app DW 09/18/2024 [18:33] TR News Instead of giving peace a chance, giving China a chance https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/09/14/africa-at-a-crossroads-chinas-growing-influence-and-its-impact-on-global-relations/ [18:33] TR Bot Africa at a Crossroads: Chinas Growing Influence and Its Impact on Global Relations - Modern Diplomacy [18:34] TR News "multipolar" since COVID-19 crashed economies (which really crashed themselves, due to greed) https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2024/09/13/portuguese-speaking-countries-in-africa-looking-for-strategic-autonomy-in-a-multipolar-world/ [18:34] TR Bot Portuguese speaking countries in Africa: Looking for strategic autonomy in a multipolar world - Modern Diplomacy [18:36] TR News organ trading https://www.dw.com/en/concern-grows-over-illegal-organ-trading-across-africa/a-70242247 [18:36] TR Bot organ traffickers in Africa prey on world's poor DW 09/18/2024 [18:36] TR News digital Loonie https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bakx-boc-cbdc-digital-currency-1.7326887 [18:36] TR Bot Bank of Canada shelves idea for digital Loonie | CBC News [18:37] TR News mercury poisoning https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/thunder-bay/grassy-narrows-mercury-justice-rally-2024-1.7327222 [18:37] TR Bot Thousands rally at Queen's Park to demand action on mercury poisoning in Grassy Narrows First Nation | CBC News [18:38] TR News family's life during the Great Depression https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/first-person-teeth-heritage-1.7298790 [18:38] TR Bot My teeth say a lot about me and my family's life during the Great Depression | CBC News [18:40] lxo schestowitz[TR2], are you saying youtube-dl/ytdlp et al, that enables downloading or stream-watching videos from youtube and other sources with mpv, vlc et al, are under attack as well by the new anti-ad-blocking youtube strategies? [18:40] TR News And nobody even checks that it buys these; more fraud likely https://www.markets.com/news/microsoft-inflates-its-stock-price-through-a-60-b-buyback-of-shares/ [18:40] TR Bot inflates its stock price through a $60B buyback of shares | Markets.com [18:41] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: they block many IPs [18:41] schestowitz[TR2] I don't know how youtube-dl/ytdlp work technicallly [18:41] lxo I ask because you stated it's no longer working with free software, and, well, I've occasionally used these from time to time [18:41] schestowitz[TR2] to scrape the video files from a given page [18:41] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: they might not work for much longer [18:42] lxo true that [18:42] TR News After so many layoffs, whats even left of the games industry? https://mancunion.com/2024/09/23/after-so-many-layoffs-whats-even-left-of-the-games-industry/ [18:42] TR Bot so many layoffs, what's even left of the games industry? - The Mancunion [18:42] lxo but the claims that it no longer works, and that it has long not worked, seem to be inaccurate [18:43] TR News IBM layoff hits thousands as company tries to keep it under wraps: Report ... catching up with the news a week late due to the NDAs https://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/technology/ibm-layoff-hits-thousands-as-company-tries-to-keep-it-under-wraps/article68672900.ece [18:43] TR Bot IBM layoff hits thousands as company tries to keep it under wraps: Report - The Hindu [18:44] lxo indeed, I'd strongly recommend people to go with mpv/vlc and ytdlp, instead of relying on third-party web sites. even well-meaning web sites that send javascript to your browser are taking control of your computing. their freely-licensed javascript becomes nonfree for the user in that setting, since it's ultimately controlled by the server, not the user [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: youtube-dl/ytdlp is under another attack [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] by Microsoft [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] borrowed time [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] atm i can find barely 4 instances of invidious [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] so YES, it is doable [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] but not for much longer [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] the remaining ones beg for money [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] and google will block their IP pools too eventually [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] they hide behind proxies [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] see: [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/16/Invidious_Instances_Explain_What_Google_YouTube_Alphabet_Pentag.shtml [18:45] TR Bot Techrights Invidious Instances Explain What Google/YouTube (Alphabet/Pentagon) Did To Them This Past Week [18:45] liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: analogy [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] roy: the water is very hot [18:46] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: ok, but at least it's not boiling [18:46] schestowitz[TR2] roy: yet. [18:47] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@7qmd5pw8km9b4.irc) has joined #techrights [18:47] TR News "It sounds sounds like typical IBM Legal arm twisting threats. No wonder many ex-employees get multi-million payouts when they sue after being laid off in the US, because IBM indulges in blatant age discrimination and robbery from it's laid off employees' paychecks." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEUnDxk [18:47] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEUnDxk ) [18:47] TR News " Alvind and his Legal Pipmunks try to maintain a code of silence even better than the Italian Mafia when it comes to trying to enforce NDAs. But things leak out...of course. After all, Murphy's law strikes... again. " https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEUnDxk [18:47] eidolon the yt-dlp maintainer is on the ball [18:48] eidolon thats all [18:48] eidolon the old versions will routinely be broken [18:49] TR News "USA corporations like IBM contribute to Indian jobs growth in a very significant manner." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM [18:49] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCSZSqM ) [18:49] eidolon the one available in some repositories [18:49] TR News "Covid proved remote works, and now its opened up the job market for globalization in that sense ======> the tools and technology developed during COVID to perform jobs remotely have helped currently offshoring jobs to low area costs like India, Mxico etc" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBbEGXe [18:49] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBbEGXe ) [18:50] TR News "Workforce rebalancing = yet another cover-up buzzword from the spin doctors @IBM How come you don't see any workforce rebalancing for middle and senior managers and executives ?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEocVRT [18:50] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEocVRT ) [18:50] TR News "Unless you are a manager or executive, you won't see any workforce rebalancing in their ranks. But that doesn't mean they don't happen. On the contrary, managers and executives are "rebalanced" all the time. Sometimes they are RA'd, sometimes they are fired outright, and sometimes they are just demoted (manager to non-manager)." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEocVRT [18:51] eidolon it has its own update mechanism [18:51] TR News "More than 20 years at IBM ====> Too expensive and too complacent" "More than 20 years at IBM ====> Working at Walmart next" "More than 20 years at IBM ===> unemployable ====> Retirement" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uApmqCy [18:51] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uApmqCy ) [18:52] TR News "Please stop using global/worldworld figures. It is irrelevant. What matters for Americans is the percentage left in the US. This layoff appears to be around 15%. This is huge and is a mark of desperation by an incompetent IBM CEO and his Yes folk." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBon1uZ [18:52] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBon1uZ ) [18:52] TR News "IBM CEO is highly regarded by the board and the investors because he saves them a lot money and keeps IBM out of bankruptcy" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBon1uZ [18:54] TR News "Employees angry about RTO mandates have essentially no legal path to fight them" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEkVPbf [18:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEkVPbf ) [18:55] eidolon youtube-dl on the other hand [18:55] eidolon wasn't usable for a long time [18:55] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:56] TR News IBM, "I want to love my job, but as I sit here while perpetually waiting to get laid off, its hard to imagine things being much worse anywhere else. I mean, even fast food joints promote people who do good work, they certainly dont lay them off. IBM, on the other hand, seems more interested in finding reasons to get rid of you. It gets tiring after a while." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEbkS1V [18:56] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEbkS1V ) [18:58] TR News Tent dwelling in Canada https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/homeless-senior-citizen-halifax-tent-encampment-1.7324946 [18:58] TR Bot Seniors living in Halifax tent move into apartment thanks to donors, volunteer | CBC News [18:59] TR News Italy's UniCredit raises eyebrows over Commerzbank move https://www.dw.com/en/italy-s-unicredit-raises-eyebrows-over-commerzbank-move/a-70206639 [18:59] TR Bot UniCredit raises eyebrows over Commerzbank move DW 09/16/2024 ● Sep 23 [19:00] TR News Living near water is nice until.... https://www.dw.com/en/europe-floods-parts-of-vienna-without-power-as-river-rises/live-70220078 [19:00] TR Bot floods: Parts of Vienna without power as river rises DW 09/16/2024 [19:03] TR News (NEW): MPV 0.39.0 Released with NVIDIA RTX and Intel VSR Scaling Support https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/MPV_0_39_0_Released_with_NVIDIA_RTX_and_Intel_VSR_Scaling_Suppo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/MPV_0_39_0_Released_with_NVIDIA_RTX_and_Intel_VSR_Scaling_Suppo.gmi [19:03] TR Bot Tux Machines MPV 0.39.0 Released with NVIDIA RTX and Intel VSR Scaling Support [19:04] TR News Typhoon https://www.dw.com/en/shanghai-cancels-flights-as-china-braces-for-typhoon-bebinca/a-70222098 [19:04] TR Bot cancels flights as China braces for Typhoon Bebinca DW 09/15/2024 [19:06] TR News Germany and Kenya sign skilled labor and migration agreement https://www.dw.com/en/germany-and-kenya-sign-skilled-labor-and-migration-agreement/a-70216082 [19:06] TR Bot and Kenya sign skilled labor and migration agreement DW 09/14/2024 [19:13] TR News Google wins legal battle against EU over 1.5 billion fine https://www.dw.com/en/google-wins-legal-battle-against-eu-over-1-5-billion-fine/a-70246709 [19:13] TR Bot wins legal battle against EU over 1.5 billion fine DW 09/18/2024 [19:16] TR News Tupperware files for bankruptcy https://www.dw.com/en/tupperware-files-for-bankruptcy-as-demand-shrinks/a-70245540 [19:16] TR Bot files for bankruptcy as demand shrinks DW 09/18/2024 [19:17] eidolon there's always Pyrex [19:17] schestowitz[TR2] they too much struggle [19:17] schestowitz[TR2] i was just thinking of pyrex [19:17] schestowitz[TR2] are they next? [19:18] TR News China's technology drive leaves young people jobless https://www.dw.com/en/china-s-technology-drive-leaves-young-people-jobless/a-70187883 [19:18] TR Bot technology drive leaves young people jobless DW 09/17/2024 [19:18] eidolon I'm stocked as if they are [19:18] eidolon what's a struggle? the latches? [19:18] admfubar https://www.firstpost.com/tech/us-plans-to-ban-all-chinese-hardware-and-software-in-smart-connected-vehicles-13818213.html [19:18] TR Bot plans to ban all Chinese hardware and software in smart, connected vehicles Firstpost [19:18] lxo schestowitz[TR2], I'm not disputing the attacks, not at all. the days may even be counted indeed. but the claim that they've already succeeded and removed the possibility entirely is false, more so because using invidious is *not* a way to watch youtube videos in freedom. you'd just be switching a different, more respectful master [19:18] TR News financial deadlock https://www.dw.com/en/azerbaijan-unveils-cop29-agenda-amid-financial-deadlock/a-70241019 [19:18] TR Bot unveils COP29 agenda amid financial deadlock DW 09/17/2024 [19:19] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: let me reframe this [19:19] schestowitz[TR2] who serves the video files in youitube-dl et al? [19:19] lxo with e.g. mpv/ytdlp, there's no such master controlling your computer, even though youtube may still block your access [19:19] schestowitz[TR2] who serves the video files in invidious? [19:19] schestowitz[TR2] same [19:19] schestowitz[TR2] the difference is [19:19] schestowitz[TR2] inviddious is a web UI [19:19] eidolon still reliant on youtube [19:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:20] schestowitz[TR2] exactly [19:20] schestowitz[TR2] so the master is alphabet agencuy [19:20] lxo browser-based computing is just doomed to be controlled by third parties. it's fundamentally nonfree, by design. it's a trap [19:20] schestowitz[TR2] which also culls many videos for cheesy reasons [19:20] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: some people run their own invidious instances [19:20] schestowitz[TR2] some are public [19:20] schestowitz[TR2] it's up to them [19:21] lxo and that's the way to go [19:21] lxo if you wish to run invidious [19:21] schestowitz[TR2] the public instances have a grim future, and private ones too [19:21] schestowitz[TR2] google detects and blocks them [19:21] schestowitz[TR2] so I recommended an alt: [19:21] lxo we're not disagreeing on that [19:21] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/The_Free_Software_Foundation_FSF_Has_Chosen_PeerTube.shtml [19:21] TR Bot Techrights The Free Software Foundation (FSF) Has Chosen PeerTube [19:21] schestowitz[TR2] eventually google will crush many things [19:21] schestowitz[TR2] because it cannot make money from youtubve [19:22] schestowitz[TR2] https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/google-is-running-out-of-storage:a [19:22] TR Bot Google is Running Out of Storage [19:22] schestowitz[TR2] he coveres youtube also [19:22] lxo I'm only disagreeing with two untrue statements: that it's no longer possible to access youtube with free software, and that using third-party invidious instances was ever a means to do so [19:22] schestowitz[TR2] how "HD" videos and ad revenue don't even out [19:22] schestowitz[TR2] i said itt's possible with few instances [19:22] schestowitz[TR2] but won't be for long [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] it is already difficult, too [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] the water is very hot [19:23] lxo no point in going down tangents in this conversation that are unrelated with these two points, as far as I'm concerned [19:23] admfubar grayjay is still working with youtube [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] google is probably afraid of blocking appliances with Google support [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] by "mistake" [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] now they escalate [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] i showed their "TOS" [19:23] schestowitz[TR2] the three-strike system [19:24] schestowitz[TR2] they deploy it to some people [19:24] schestowitz[TR2] to test it [19:24] schestowitz[TR2] but not to all [19:25] TR News INTC is NOT functioning anymore https://www.dw.com/en/germany-intel-delays-construction-of-magdeburg-factory/a-70235254 why bail it out? http://techrights.org/n/2024/04/02/The_US_Taxpayers_Bail_Out_Intel_Like_They_Do_Microsoft_Already_.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2024/08/28/Bailouts_Don_t_Work_The_Case_of_Intel_Shares_Down_Over_60_This_.shtml [19:25] TR Bot Intel delays construction of Magdeburg factory DW 09/17/2024 [19:25] TR Bot Techrights The US Taxpayers Bail Out Intel (Like They Do Microsoft), Already Deep in Debt and Risking a Bankruptcy [19:25] TR Bot Techrights Bailouts Don't Work: The Case of Intel (Shares Down Over 60% This Year Despite Taxpayers' Rescue Fund) [19:25] admfubar https://www.ghacks.net/2024/09/23/youtube-premium-another-massive-price-increase-in-some-regions-angers-users/ [19:25] TR Bot YouTube Premium: another massive price increase in some regions angers users - gHacks Tech News [19:25] schestowitz[TR2] i was gonna say, [19:25] schestowitz[TR2] it's based on usage, and geography [19:25] schestowitz[TR2] maybe in brazil it still works with freesw for now [19:26] schestowitz[TR2] but they plan to change that [19:26] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/08/11/YouTube_Will_Probably_be_Next_to_Die.shtml [19:26] TR Bot Techrights YouTube Will Probably be Next to Die [19:26] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/o/2023/06/15/youtube-should-be-avoided/ [19:26] TR Bot Why You Should Quit YouTube - Part 9: Name Your Poison [19:27] TR News shruggs? https://www.dw.com/en/german-government-shruggs-off-intel-s-delayed-factory-plan/a-70241739 [19:27] TR Bot Intel's factory delay adds to Germany's economic woes DW 09/17/2024 [19:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [19:27] lxo schestowitz[TR2], their plans, their future actions, and our future counteractions bear no relationship whatsoever with what is possible right now [19:27] TR News They corrected the typo (in headline), not the URL. Standards have fallen at DW. [19:27] liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo [19:27] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: now I cannot watch my own videos [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] or football [19:28] lxo even with mpv/ytdlp? [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] even with the proprietary youtube site [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] i did not try mpv [19:29] schestowitz[TR2] to be clear, [19:29] lxo I'm referring to publicly-available videos, that can *currently* be viewed by unauthenticated users. you seem to be focusing at a different use case, that doesn't generalize [19:29] schestowitz[TR2] we have several issues now: [19:29] schestowitz[TR2] -youtube attacking ad blockers [19:29] schestowitz[TR2] -youtube attacking invidious [19:29] schestowitz[TR2] -youtube attacking creators [19:30] schestowitz[TR2] let me check with mpv [19:32] schestowitz[TR2] trying with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24FaZ-p2rcg as example [19:32] TR Bot https://inv.zzls.xyz/watch?v=24FaZ-p2rcg [19:32] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=24FaZ-p2rcg ) [19:32] schestowitz[TR2] mpv crashes [19:32] schestowitz[TR2] that's all i needed to know [19:32] schestowitz[TR2] so something crashes it [19:33] schestowitz[TR2] a youtube url [19:33] lxo I've just successfully downloaded a public video with ytdlp [19:33] eidolon I have been using mpv + ytdlp consistently without issue [19:33] eidolon the consistent aspect to all this is that invidious is kaput [19:33] eidolon that unixfox attested to that [19:34] lxo the url you mentioned says: [youtube] 24FaZ-p2rcg: Video unavailable. The uploader has not made this video available in your country [19:34] schestowitz[TR2] so now Google can focus more on crushing others [19:35] TR News How new technologies can mitigate the risks of flooding https://www.dw.com/en/how-new-technologies-can-mitigate-the-risks-of-flooding/a-70239314 [19:35] TR Bot technology can cut the risks of flooding DW 09/17/2024 [19:36] schestowitz[TR2] youtube attacking invidious also means more webrot [19:36] lxo so ytdlp, that is free software, currently works to get access to videos, and at least mpv and vlc can use it underneath to watch streamed videos, if downloading is not desired [19:36] schestowitz[TR2] many articles in TR link to invidious [19:36] schestowitz[TR2] tuxmachines links to invidious like a thousand times [19:36] schestowitz[TR2] now all those links aree broken [19:36] lxo that alone is enough to disprove the claim that youtube videos cannot be watched with free software [19:36] schestowitz[TR2] thanks, Googler [19:36] schestowitz[TR2] *Goog [19:37] lxo I've long used ytdl:// URLs for this reason. they work transparently with ytdlp (for now), and they don't direct people to hostile or captive web sites [19:37] schestowitz[TR2] for some people it does not work [19:37] schestowitz[TR2] maybe in brazil it does [19:37] eidolon ytdl:// works with mpv [19:37] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_Stopped_Working_With_Free_Software_a_Long_Time_Ago_Now_.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/16/Please_Quit_Uploading_Event_Talks_Especially_of_Free_Software_t.shtml [19:37] TR Bot Techrights YouTube Stopped Working With Free Software a Long Time Ago; Now It Stops Working if You Use an Ad Blocker (Across the Web!) [19:37] TR Bot Techrights Please Quit Uploading Event Talks (Especially of Free Software) to YouTube [19:37] eidolon and the ytdl hook [19:38] schestowitz[TR2] soon it'll be, youtuve works with free software is syou buy VPN [19:38] schestowitz[TR2] and download some "geek" tools [19:38] schestowitz[TR2] not if you just send someone an Invidious URL [19:39] schestowitz[TR2] *if you buy VPN sub [19:39] lxo you're not wrong about that [19:39] lxo but you're wrong about its being impossible today [19:39] lxo can you tell the difference? [19:39] schestowitz[TR2] That's like RMS saying Twitter/X still works with freesw (he did not, hypothetical) [19:39] schestowitz[TR2] because there are still some temnants of nitter somewhere [19:39] lxo wasn't that accurate then? [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] or there is some "app" on f-droif [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] and f-droid is usuaully a tamp for OEM Android [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] not AOSP [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] so it's proprietary OS [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] *ramp [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] but realistically, X and Twitter or whatever it gets called in the future is: [19:40] lxo youtube-dl, then ytdlp, have always been the only way to get to yt videos in freedom [19:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:40] schestowitz[TR2] proprietary backend [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] monopolyu [19:41] lxo and they have not been broken [19:41] lxo (yet) [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] proprietary web UI [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] and proprietary "app" [19:41] lxo so the statement that it's no longer possible is false. that's all [19:41] lxo anything you and I may suspect about what their future might be is irrelevant [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] for some it is barely possible [19:41] lxo (to assess this statement about the present) [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] depends on some factors [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] I cannot even play those URLs in mpv [19:41] schestowitz[TR2] it crashes it [19:41] lxo try ytdlp [19:42] lxo let's see the error message [19:42] schestowitz[TR2] i try not to add s/w to this machine [19:42] admfubar we can only hope he'd be on one of them... https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/musk_expects_to_launch_five/ [19:42] TR Bot Musk wants to launch 5 Starships to Mars in 2 years The Register [19:42] eidolon it is probably an old version [19:42] schestowitz[TR2] i used like 10 downloads of youtuve in the past [19:42] schestowitz[TR2] remember tinyogg? [19:42] lxo oh, maybe you don't have ytdlp installed? that could explain the error [19:42] schestowitz[TR2] its bavck end used one too [19:42] schestowitz[TR2] there are UI front ends for the downloaders, I used so many [19:42] lxo mpv uses ytdlp underneath [19:43] schestowitz[TR2] and it's very whack-a-mole [19:43] schestowitz[TR2] remember CLIVE? [19:43] lxo nope. I've never used anything but youtube-dl and then ytdlp to get to youtube videos [19:43] schestowitz[TR2] it's an arms race [19:43] lxo yes [19:43] schestowitz[TR2] and will continue to be [19:44] lxo yes [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] youtube could instead just be hands-off [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] but we know what the end goal is [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] block them all [19:44] lxo yes [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] no ads, no video [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] and they will get there [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] eventually [19:44] lxo none of this is relevant to assess the truth of the statement I'm disputing, is it? [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] i never said it is outrightr impossible [19:44] lxo can we please focus on that? [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] au contraire [19:44] schestowitz[TR2] i keep saaying, [19:45] schestowitz[TR2] some options still exist [19:45] schestowitz[TR2] but they are losing the war [19:45] schestowitz[TR2] and long term, adopt another platform [19:45] schestowitz[TR2] like peertube [19:45] lxo "YouTube Stopped Working With Free Software a Long Time Ago" is the headline [19:45] schestowitz[TR2] no need to wait till the very end [19:46] lxo that is false [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] this refers to the browser [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] it is correct [19:46] lxo it still works [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] YouTube stopped working [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] no, [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] go to youtube.com [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] with only free software [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] tell me what happens [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] no proprietary JS [19:46] lxo it doesn't want to, but it does, thanks to the unrelenting efforts of many free software developers in working around google's attempts to curtail us all [19:46] schestowitz[TR2] shortcuts like youtube-dl are not youtube [19:46] lxo you're missing the .com in the headline [19:47] schestowitz[TR2] youyibe)r_ os twp tjhoings [19:47] schestowitz[TR2] proprietayr google app [19:47] schestowitz[TR2] like gmail or maps [19:47] schestowitz[TR2] and it is also a Web site [19:47] lxo the article says "A decade ago RMS told me it was still possible to play some material from YouTube using Free software. That's clearly not the case anymore" [19:47] schestowitz[TR2] youtube-dl is a programm [19:47] lxo the second sentence is false [19:47] schestowitz[TR2] it works around the site, I think, to grab some multimedia file [19:47] lxo and that's what I'm getting at [19:48] schestowitz[TR2] it was possible in youtube.com [19:48] schestowitz[TR2] then they added JS [19:48] schestowitz[TR2] then iframe [19:48] schestowitz[TR2] then it become JS-only [19:48] schestowitz[TR2] now it's like Web DRM [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] where it scans your browser [19:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] like attestation [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] btw, i encourage you to access youtube with netsurf or similar [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] and see what happens [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] firefox is already sort of proprietary [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] so even the browser needed is proprietary [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] they impement a sort of attestation [19:49] lxo again, you're not wrong about that. it's just not relevant to the point I'm making [19:49] schestowitz[TR2] to make sure you don't block ads and such [19:50] schestowitz[TR2] so youtube.com is sort of proprietary only welcome [19:50] lxo I'm speaking of a small false statement you published, not at all about the trends you and I are observing [19:50] schestowitz[TR2] and the official youtube app was always proprietary [19:50] schestowitz[TR2] the JS-only thing started about 4 years ago [19:50] schestowitz[TR2] you cannot even see text on the page [19:50] schestowitz[TR2] I can amend the article [19:51] schestowitz[TR2] to say YouTube.com [19:51] schestowitz[TR2] or [19:51] schestowitz[TR2] follow up with clarification [19:51] schestowitz[TR2] showing what youtube.com looks like in a browser without blobs [19:51] schestowitz[TR2] (which Firefox has) [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] of librejs emulates some proprietary JS in youtube.com [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] for how long? [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] it'll break [19:52] lxo it would be good to publish something that tells people that there are ways to access some videos with free software, after all, at least for now, but that they too are at risk, despite the efforts of their maintainers [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] and they need to keep chasing [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] until this happens: [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/04/14/Mozilla_Has_Turned_Firefox_Into_OSPS_Consistent_With_Attestatio.shtml [19:52] TR Bot Techrights Mozilla Has Turned Firefox Into OSPS Consistent With "Attestation" Objectives [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] it's already work in progres [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] sthey just keep quiet about it [19:52] schestowitz[TR2] while they roll it out [19:52] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:53] schestowitz[TR2] soon they will have more ways to block browsers they say are "tinkeredd with [19:53] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. with libreJS [19:53] lxo the unfortunate nature of smoked computing is that anyone interacting with the software is always chasing, catching up, and hoping it won't break [19:53] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: i need to ask someone who uses youtube with freesw [19:53] schestowitz[TR2] rianne uses what's left of invidivious [19:53] schestowitz[TR2] i am now blocked from youtube [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] till I disable ad blocker, I guess [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] and even then [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] it woulfd be proprietary [19:54] lxo "using youtube" (whatever that means) and "accessing material from YouTube" (what you wrote in the article) do not come across as equivalent to me [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] they are similar [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] also, musyt define youtube [19:54] lxo my qualm was with the latter [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] what is youtuvbe [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] company that lost money [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] sold to google [19:54] schestowitz[TR2] was servers [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] with people's "content" on it [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] lots was originally not legal [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] like many SNL clips [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] it was a site with Adobe Flash [19:55] admfubar youtube, a service that exploits YOU! [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] then the videos got converted [19:55] lxo does anyone like "smoked computing" as a term? [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] then it was webm and vp8/9 [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] then JS "webapp [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] and there is also an "app" [19:55] schestowitz[TR2] for google "things" [19:56] admfubar lxo, sounds like something stoners do [19:56] schestowitz[TR2] youtube wwwas better in 2014 [19:56] lxo does it even bring cloud of smoke to your mind? [19:56] schestowitz[TR2] after thhey got rid of adobe trash [19:56] schestowitz[TR2] and it sort of worked across devices [19:56] schestowitz[TR2] and did not demand JS [19:57] schestowitz[TR2] then it was even better than the original (2006) youtube [19:57] schestowitz[TR2] but it lost a TON of money [19:57] admfubar now if you go full modern and new, it should called "vape computing" [19:57] schestowitz[TR2] it still does [19:57] schestowitz[TR2] there is no money in multimedia hosting [19:57] schestowitz[TR2] except with DRM and subs [19:58] lxo I honestly hadn't thought of smoked as in cigarettes or such things. I drew inspiration from e.g. smoked salmon [19:58] schestowitz[TR2] https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/tfz1tq/vimeo_about_to_start_charging_obscene_amounts_of/ [19:58] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://old.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/tfz1tq/vimeo_about_to_start_charging_obscene_amounts_of/ ) [19:59] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22979126/vimeo-patreon-creators-price-increase [19:59] TR Bot Vimeo is telling creators to suddenly pay thousands of dollars or leave the platform - The Verge [19:59] schestowitz[TR2] "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive, van Baarle says. But I thought, well, its a quality platform. Shes uploaded 117 subscriber-only videos so far, and each one only gets around 150 views on average, van Baarle says. Her most viewed video has around 815 views." [19:59] schestowitz[TR2] "Her quoted price: $3,500 a year. She was given a week to upgrade her content, decrease her bandwidth usage, or leave Vimeo. " [19:59] schestowitz[TR2] Reality strikes [19:59] lxo but really I wish to refer to clown computing in a more negative way [19:59] schestowitz[TR2] nothing is free. https://odysee.com/@AlphaNerd:8/google-is-running-out-of-storage:a [19:59] TR Bot Google is Running Out of Storage [19:59] eidolon up-in-smoke computing ● Sep 23 [20:00] lxo not just a funny one, but one that makes one realize their computing is going up in smoke [20:00] lxo exactly [20:00] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/08/16/Clown_Computing.shtml [20:00] TR Bot Techrights Clown Computing [20:00] eidolon D; [20:00] lxo while thier freedom evaporates [20:00] TR News carbon tax step back https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/2008-ndp-axe-the-tax-carbon-tax-david-eby-1.7323422 [20:00] TR Bot Don't be surprised by the B.C. NDP consumer carbon tax step back | CBC News [20:01] TR News work stoppage https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/air-canada-disruptions-chances-increasing-1.7322564 [20:01] TR Bot Air Canada travellers scramble to change plans ahead of potential work stoppage | CBC News [20:01] TR News Return to the office https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/federal-public-servant-ottawa-return-office-3-days-1.7321230 [20:01] TR Bot Return to the office also meant a return to traffic, parking and simmering tensions | CBC News [20:01] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: it's a decent analofy [20:02] admfubar pennywise computing? [20:02] schestowitz[TR2] can permutate a little [20:02] schestowitz[TR2] till it permeates a lots [20:03] schestowitz[TR2] the hard thing is to make a two-word summary of what it is [20:03] schestowitz[TR2] outsourcing computing is ambiguous [20:03] schestowitz[TR2] and it's not like car rental [20:03] schestowitz[TR2] when you drive the car out you control it [20:03] schestowitz[TR2] until you bring it back [20:03] schestowitz[TR2] to the garage [20:04] schestowitz[TR2] that's not the same with server space or account you subscribe for and log into [20:04] schestowitz[TR2] so the car analogy would not work [20:04] TR News Family of firefighter who died after accident at training school appalled at persisting safety issues https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/family-firefighter-died-training-accident-safety-issues-1.7323186 [20:05] TR Bot Family of firefighter who died after accident at training school appalled at persisting safety issues | CBC News [20:05] admfubar new self driving cars would, [20:05] TR News How can Europe's auto industry survive? https://www.dw.com/en/volkswagen-crisis-how-can-europe-s-auto-industry-survive/a-70231806 [20:05] TR Bot crisis: How can Europe's car industry survive? DW 09/23/2024 [20:05] schestowitz[TR2] "self driving" is a pipe dream [20:05] schestowitz[TR2] discovery channel covered this in the 1980s [20:05] schestowitz[TR2] it's nothing new [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] hype, like "hey hi" [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] ane experiments on the road [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] then shit happens [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] they take them off the road [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] go back to lobbying politicians [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] and defrauding [20:06] admfubar it is fun when they repo the car and it drives itself away... [20:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://techcrunch.com/2023/12/17/cruise-cuts-a-quarter-of-its-self-driving-workforce-another-e-scooter-startup-folds-and-a-special-year-end-message/ [20:06] TR Bot cuts a quarter of its self-driving workforce, another e-scooter startup folds and a special year-end message | TechCrunch [20:07] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer-says-company-faked-full-autopilot/ [20:07] TR Bot Tesla engineer says company faked "full autopilot" video: Report - CBS News [20:07] schestowitz[TR2] the issue is not those who experiment [20:07] schestowitz[TR2] who put themselves inside this computer [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] with 4 wheels [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] they kill pedestrians [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] who did NOT opt in [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] that's what's so unacceptable about itr [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] they can drive off the cliff for all I care [20:08] schestowitz[TR2] this is not OK: [20:08] admfubar i think the cliff diving has happened... [20:10] schestowitz[TR2] computeeer program crashes into person self-driving cars crashing into cyclists on bikes off the road, then commpany pays family of victrim [20:10] schestowitz[TR2] till next accident [20:10] schestowitz[TR2] some reports said the cars would drag the cyclists [20:10] schestowitz[TR2] on the road [20:10] schestowitz[TR2] for like 100 meters [20:11] schestowitz[TR2] before the computer programs stops [20:11] schestowitz[TR2] probably feels like something is "getting in the wheel" [20:11] schestowitz[TR2] like human flesh [20:11] schestowitz[TR2] then pay off the familt [20:11] schestowitz[TR2] to pretend this is OK [20:11] schestowitz[TR2] then say they "Fixed" the program [20:12] TR News INTC https://www.dw.com/en/us-intel-s-factory-delay-adds-to-germany-s-economic-woes/a-7024173 [20:12] TR Bot [20:15] TR News Winnipeg retiree who lost close to $650K in fraud scheme sues credit union and bank https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/winnipeg-retiree-fraud-credit-union-bank-1.7325174 [20:16] TR Bot Winnipeg retiree who lost close to $650K in fraud scheme sues credit union and bank | CBC News [20:16] eidolon makes a paper jam seem pretty wholesome [20:16] TR News Anti-mining activist Juan Lopez shot dead https://www.dw.com/en/honduras-anti-mining-activist-juan-lopez-shot-dead/a-70223466 [20:16] TR Bot Anti-mining activist Juan Lopez shot dead DW 09/16/2024 [20:19] TR News strike https://www.dw.com/en/boeing-us-factory-workers-vote-to-strike/a-70205885 [20:19] TR Bot US factory workers vote to strike DW 09/13/2024 [20:19] MinceR smog computing [20:20] schestowitz[TR2] apple: smug computing [20:20] schestowitz[TR2] "my PC is whiter than yours" [20:22] MinceR "my PC looks more like a toilet seat than yours" [20:24] schestowitz[TR2] some toilet seats and lids are not white [20:24] schestowitz[TR2] many are [20:24] schestowitz[TR2] i think because of the porcelain [20:25] schestowitz[TR2] but it also makes it easier to see "where to clean" [20:25] schestowitz[TR2] a blackened porcelain would be "hit and miss" [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/asia_tech_news_in_brief/ [20:26] TR Bot Huawei to dump Windows for PCs,use own HarmonyOS instead The Register [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] "Yu's remarks were made in a Friday interview, in which he also talked up HarmonyOS Next the version of the OS that is all Huawei's work, has an entirely new kernel apparently built without Linux, and won't run Android apps. Huawei promotes the OS as offering superior performance and security. [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] " [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] i wonder how much gnu is inside HarmonyOS [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] it's hard to tell [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] they say no linux [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] but it's just a bloated kernel [20:26] schestowitz[TR2] there is a lot of userspace in gnu [20:27] schestowitz[TR2] and also, there are some chinese people working on gnu [20:27] schestowitz[TR2] HarmonyOS [20:27] schestowitz[TR2] https://savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=9523 [20:27] TR Bot GNU Chinese Translators Team - News [Savannah] [20:27] schestowitz[TR2] they support RMS btw [20:27] schestowitz[TR2] and issued a statement iirc [20:28] schestowitz[TR2] " This is a very sad news, and we as Free Software support should continue moving on with what we believe. " [20:28] schestowitz[TR2] by Wensheng XIE [20:28] schestowitz[TR2] Wensheng XIE [20:28] schestowitz[TR2] http://gnu.ist.utl.pt/software/chinese/index.html [20:28] TR Bot Chinese Translators Team - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [20:29] schestowitz[TR2] By Yong Liu, lessig-fsfs-intro.html [20:29] schestowitz[TR2] By Yong Liu, moglen-harvard-speech-2004.html [20:29] schestowitz[TR2] By Naikuo Yang, ms-doj-tunney.html [20:29] MinceR well, not all chinese people serve the CPC [20:29] schestowitz[TR2] http://gnu.ist.utl.pt/philosophy/moglen-harvard-speech-2004.html http://gnu.ist.utl.pt/philosophy/lessig-fsfs-intro.html http://gnu.ist.utl.pt/philosophy/ms-doj-tunney.html [20:29] TR Bot Eben Moglen Speech - Harvard - 2004 [20:29] TR Bot Introduction to Free Software, Free Society - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [20:29] TR Bot FSF Statement in Response to Proposed Revised Final Judgment in Microsoft vs. United States [20:30] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: yet [20:30] schestowitz[TR2] CPC is "working on it..." [20:30] schestowitz[TR2] " Huawei's current PCs are the last it will make that run Windows, and future machines will run its own HarmonyOS instead, according to the chair of the Chinese giant's consumer business group, Yu Chengdong. [20:30] schestowitz[TR2] ' [20:30] eidolon http://archive.today/NnLDz [20:30] TR Bot connection timeout ( status 0 @ https://archive.ph/NnLDz ) [20:31] schestowitz[TR2] "Huawei's HarmonyOS puts China's tech world in awkward spot" [20:31] schestowitz[TR2] Thanks, I will use this archived page [20:31] schestowitz[TR2] i plan to write about it after researching some more [20:31] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [20:32] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/07/21/OpenHarmony_HarmonyOS_Next_Deepin_Kylin_and_openKylin_How_China.shtml [20:32] TR Bot Techrights OpenHarmony, HarmonyOS Next, Deepin, Kylin, and openKylin: How China's Various Manoeuvres Away From Windows Get Covered in the West [20:32] schestowitz[TR2] Simon Sharwood [20:32] schestowitz[TR2] Simon Sharwood [20:32] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.theregister.com/2024/09/23/asia_tech_news_in_brief/ [20:32] TR Bot Huawei to dump Windows for PCs,use own HarmonyOS instead The Register [20:32] schestowitz[TR2] Sharwood is considered a Microsoft f***wit [20:32] schestowitz[TR2] even Torvalds dislikes him [20:34] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: re youtube [20:34] schestowitz[TR2] i will make up for it later [20:34] schestowitz[TR2] with clarifications [20:34] schestowitz[TR2] i neeed to check on another PC [20:34] schestowitz[TR2] the site and some browsers [20:34] schestowitz[TR2] and browser settinhgs [20:35] TR News (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: mintCast, Open Source Security Podcast, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Audiocasts_Shows_mintCast_Open_Source_Security_Podcast_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Audiocasts_Shows_mintCast_Open_Source_Security_Podcast_and_More.gmi [20:35] TR Bot Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: mintCast, Open Source Security Podcast, and More [20:35] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [20:37] TR News (NEW): Linux Firewire Support and Old Developers in Charge https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Linux_Firewire_Support_and_Old_Developers_in_Charge.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Linux_Firewire_Support_and_Old_Developers_in_Charge.gmi [20:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Linux Firewire Support and Old Developers in Charge [20:37] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [20:37] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [20:38] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Zigbee, Cytron, Hackfest, 3D Printing, and More https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Open_Hardware_Modding_Zigbee_Cytron_Hackfest_3D_Printing_and_Mo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/Open_Hardware_Modding_Zigbee_Cytron_Hackfest_3D_Printing_and_Mo.gmi [20:38] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: Zigbee, Cytron, Hackfest, 3D Printing, and More [20:40] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi [20:40] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [20:44] TR News "Friday we went to hear some classical music at the Tonhalle in Zrich. Thorvaldsdottirs composition was amazing. Apparently there will be more Icelandic elements this season. " gemini://alexschroeder.ch/2024-09-22-holidays-at-home [20:44] TR News "I am in Home Depot, getting mulch and Halloween decorations." gemini://tilde.club/~mycrobe/journal/2024-09-21-f63fcb01f454454db2a13731a994f6cc/ [20:45] TR News "Someone recently brought to my attention a FetLife post in which the writer described extreme bruising from kink play as self harm and dangerous, saying how she's not going to stand by and endorse those. In response, people are calling her brave." gemini://flexibeast.space/gemlog/2024-09-23.gmi [20:46] TR News British Indian Restaurant Curry At Home gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/korruptor/blog/2024-09-23-BIR-Curry-At-Home.gmi [20:47] TR News "Wow, time really flies by this year.. most days it somehow feels like i would need at least 48 hours in the day to somehow get done what needs to get done. Its... frustrating somehow." gopher://sdf.org:70/0/users/ralfwause/phlog/230924.txt [20:47] liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo [20:47] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: did you see the lxer post? [20:47] schestowitz[TR2] seems the CAs are killiing sites [20:47] schestowitz[TR2] and not intentionally [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] it just happens [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] "oops" [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] CAs sometimes exist to protect the "big sites" [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] that know how to handle all the edge cases [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] and technical stuff [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] and hire people to do it [20:48] schestowitz[TR2] originally it was something for banking sites and online shopping [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/A_Migration_to_Centralised_Certificate_Authorities_CAs_Has_Betr.shtml [20:49] TR Bot Techrights A Migration to Centralised Certificate Authorities (CAs) Has Betrayed LXer [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] notice the part about Let's Encrypt [20:49] schestowitz[TR2] it killed off like half their site's traffic [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: also, can you access youtube.com and play videos [20:52] TR News Techrights Gemini Links 23/09/2024: Holidays and Window Managers https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Gemini_Links_23_09_2024_Holidays_and_Window_Managers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Gemini_Links_23_09_2024_Holidays_and_Window_Managers.gmi [20:52] TR Bot Techrights Gemini Links 23/09/2024: Holidays and Window Managers [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] without proprietary s/w? [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] twitter become JS only in 2020 [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] It took FSF about a year to take note of it [20:52] schestowitz[TR2] Greg wrote about it, IIRC [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] *became JS-onlu [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] many sites become proprietary web appsd [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] it's just a web ADDRESS [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] but not Web Page [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] barely a Web SITE [20:53] schestowitz[TR2] you did a talk about iut [20:55] TR News Techrights Links 23/09/2024: More Layoffs and Toxic Politics https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Links_23_09_2024_More_Layoffs_and_Toxic_Politics.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Links_23_09_2024_More_Layoffs_and_Toxic_Politics.gmi [20:55] TR Bot Techrights Links 23/09/2024: More Layoffs and Toxic Politics ● Sep 23 [21:07] TR News Techrights Expect Microsoft Windows to Nodedive in China, Just Like in India https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Expect_Microsoft_Windows_to_Nodedive_in_China_Just_Like_in_Indi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Expect_Microsoft_Windows_to_Nodedive_in_China_Just_Like_in_Indi.gmi [21:07] TR Bot Techrights Expect Microsoft Windows to Nodedive in China, Just Like in India [21:25] admfubar https://unlimitedhangout.com/2024/09/investigative-series/the-chain-of-consensus-the-cartel-behind-the-blockchain/ [21:25] TR Bot The Chain of Consensus: The Cartel Behind The Blockchain [21:28] admfubar https://therecord.media/legislation-mandate-opt-outs-vetoed [21:29] TR Bot Legislation to mandate universal data privacy opt-outs vetoed in California [21:31] psydruid https://www.bis.gov/press-release/commerce-announces-proposed-rule-secure-connected-vehicle-supply-chains-foreign [21:31] TR Bot Commerce Announces Proposed Rule to Secure Connected Vehicle Supply Chains from Foreign Adversary Threats | Bureau of Industry and Security [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] only now? [21:32] *IsambardPrince (~isambardprince@9633gvfi8sk2i.irc) has joined #techrights [21:32] schestowitz[TR2] sweatshops no good anymmore? [21:33] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], Microsoft Larabel talking about the Windows Developer Kit booting Linux. [21:33] IsambardPrince He said "It was nice for the time." like it was 20 year old hardware. [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] i saw that [21:33] IsambardPrince It was from 2023! [21:33] IsambardPrince :D [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] Mike Microsoft Larabel still associating his site phoronix with alcoholic beverages https://www.phoronix.com/news/Premium-Oktoberfest-2024 [21:33] TR Bot Premium Deal For Oktoberfest 2024 - Phoronix [21:33] schestowitz[TR2] Mike Microsoft... cannot call E.E.E. what it is https://www.phoronix.com/news/Windows-Dev-Kit-2023-Linux [21:33] TR Bot DeviceTree Gets Microsoft Windows Dev Kit 2023 Booting Linux - Phoronix [21:34] IsambardPrince That's how I might choose to describe something that could run Doom 3 on Ultra mode in 2004. [21:34] IsambardPrince "It was nice for the time but what could you do with it now?" [21:34] schestowitz[TR2] irc?? [21:34] IsambardPrince You know what I mean. [21:35] IsambardPrince A 1 year old computer may be replaced with one that's 8-9% faster in a year. [21:35] TR News Oracle Clown Native Environment 2.0 blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/oracle-cloud-native-environment-20 [21:35] IsambardPrince But it's hardly a museum piece. [21:36] IsambardPrince Intel is going bankrupt, other than the payments Biden keeps figuring out how to slip them. [21:36] IsambardPrince Because it's hardly worth replacing a computer every 5 years, much less every year. [21:36] TR News Dont miss Insider Threat Awareness Month https://www.networkworld.com/article/3516240/dont-miss-insider-threat-awareness-month.html [21:36] TR Bot Dont miss Insider Threat Awareness Month | Network World [21:36] IsambardPrince They've got the same problem Microsoft does. [21:37] IsambardPrince They spent so many years figuring out a way to hamfist a bad product onto people instead of fixing the product, that now there's many other options on the market and the dam burst. [21:37] TR News Viewing system performance details with the top command https://www.networkworld.com/article/3510751/viewing-system-performance-details-with-the-top-command.html [21:37] TR Bot Viewing system performance details with the top command | Network World [21:38] schestowitz[TR2] Intel is going bankrupt, other than the payments Biden keeps figuring out how to slip them. Intel is going bankrupt, other than the payments Biden keeps figuring out how to slip them. Intel is going bankrupt, other than the payments Biden keeps figuring out how to slip them. [21:38] schestowitz[TR2] yes, see: [21:38] schestowitz[TR2] oops, triple paste due to barrier [21:38] schestowitz[TR2] INTC is NOT functioning anymore https://www.dw.com/en/germany-intel-delays-construction-of-magdeburg-factory/a-70235254 why bail it out? http://techrights.org/n/2024/04/02/The_US_Taxpayers_Bail_Out_Intel_Like_They_Do_Microsoft_Already_.shtml http://techrights.org/n/2024/08/28/Bailouts_Don_t_Work_The_Case_of_Intel_Shares_Down_Over_60_This_.shtml [21:38] TR Bot Intel delays construction of Magdeburg factory DW 09/17/2024 [21:38] TR Bot Techrights The US Taxpayers Bail Out Intel (Like They Do Microsoft), Already Deep in Debt and Risking a Bankruptcy [21:38] TR Bot Techrights Bailouts Don't Work: The Case of Intel (Shares Down Over 60% This Year Despite Taxpayers' Rescue Fund) [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] Intel has no SOLID contigency [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] none [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] some companies have [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] but not INTC [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] it'll perish fast now [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] it's aalready repelling clients [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] except AWS maybe [21:39] IsambardPrince https://finance.yahoo.com/news/attention-kmart-shoppers-last-full-151853500.html [21:39] TR Bot Attention Kmart shoppers: The last full-size Kmart in the mainland United States is closing [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] because you do NOT want to buy chips from a compaany that will vanish [21:39] IsambardPrince Walmart is going in this direction. [21:39] schestowitz[TR2] like Itanium [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] Microsoft does a lot of vapourware [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] with HEY HI [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] all this "nuclear power plant" [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] like it'll still be in clown business [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] and hey hi whatever [21:40] IsambardPrince When KMart started to go bad they had "thousands of stores, we just need to close a few bad ones around the edges....we're overbuilt". [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] otherwise people stay away [21:40] IsambardPrince 20 years later they're closing the last store. [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] because Microsoft can go under like INTC [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] in a single year [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] the bubble will burst with a cchain reaction [21:40] schestowitz[TR2] when I covered MSFT losses [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] Microsoft sent its pedo here [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] to IRC [21:41] IsambardPrince "and the corporate owner Transformco" [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] to troll me, you, others [21:41] IsambardPrince Probably some Indian guy. [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] an actual pedo [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] practising pedo [21:41] IsambardPrince There to ruin it while he pays himself a lot of money. [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] not some dude with a wig [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] after I rebutted his Ars pieces [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] with Microsoft FAKE "results" [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] and why those were fake [21:41] schestowitz[TR2] that was around Vista 8 [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] and http://techrights.org/wiki/UEFI/ [21:42] TR Bot UEFI [21:42] schestowitz[TR2] MSF worked hard to shut Linux OUT [21:43] psydruid and infiltrated the RPi Foundation when that resulted in millions of computers running GNU/Linux by default [21:44] admfubar 'cept their job security... https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/microsofts-largest-ever-security-transformation-detailed-in-new-report.455073/ [21:44] TR Bot Microsofts largest ever security transformation detailed in new report | Wilders Security Forums [21:45] schestowitz[TR2] psydruid: with vscode [21:45] schestowitz[TR2] sending data to msft [21:45] schestowitz[TR2] and shilling it in the raspi magazine [21:45] schestowitz[TR2] all for money [21:45] psydruid I had it installed once years ago [21:46] psydruid and found it pretty useless [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] what did intel call it? [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] "mass appeal" [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] ? [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] i forgot.. [21:46] schestowitz[TR2] http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks/ [21:46] TR Bot Intel leaks [21:47] admfubar they need "Depends" [21:47] IsambardPrince He ended up barking up the wrong tree when he practiced his pedophilia on a federal agent. :D [21:47] IsambardPrince I wish him all the worst. [21:47] *psydruid is glad he didn't join Intel when they came knocking on his door [21:47] TR News GNU/Linux rose in Taiwan this month https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/taiwan#monthly-200902-202409 [21:47] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Taiwan | Statcounter Global Stats [21:48] IsambardPrince Bubba might be practicing on Peter right this very minute. I don't know when shower time is and granted Peter is a pretty gross looking fatass. [21:48] IsambardPrince But in prison, I hear, they take what they can get. [21:48] psydruid it was also for the DCAI group that has gone into severe decline [21:49] psydruid serious* [21:49] schestowitz[TR2] "ban daemonfc," said a man with his dick stuck up the rectum of s 10-year-old [21:49] IsambardPrince They put him in a medium security prison. That just means that they don't consider him much of an escape risk so they don't want to spend too much money on imprisoning him. [21:49] IsambardPrince He certainly isn't going to slip through the bars. [21:50] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], Congress did pass the prison rape elimination act nearly 20 years ago I think. [21:50] IsambardPrince And there's about as much prison rape now as ever. [21:50] IsambardPrince But they come up with plans on what to do about it, every year. [21:50] IsambardPrince They plan. [21:51] IsambardPrince That's what the government is good for. [21:51] IsambardPrince Paperwork, no results. [21:51] schestowitz[TR2] today we had active visit in IRC [21:51] IsambardPrince You want corn, you plant corn, pray for sun and the right amount of rain. [21:51] schestowitz[TR2] from Club Gulag [21:51] schestowitz[TR2] decided to shut up for now [21:51] IsambardPrince You want nothing, plant nothing and wait on the government and you'll get a field of mud. [21:51] schestowitz[TR2] too avoid getting rearrested [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] re us prisons and rape, [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] the stigma is, [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] the prison does not mind [21:52] IsambardPrince Prison rape is deliberate. They let it happen. [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] because it does not like the inmates [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] the rapists enjoy it though [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] theey might even commit crimes when out [21:52] schestowitz[TR2] to get back to raping people who are stuck in cages [21:52] IsambardPrince Part of the scare of going to prison is that your butthole will be resized about yay big by some guy in there for murdering someone. [21:53] IsambardPrince :) [21:53] IsambardPrince It's sort of like a bonus, as far as the government sees it. [21:53] IsambardPrince They can't do that to you. They can put you in a cell, but they can't officially stick things that don't belong in there up your butt. [21:53] IsambardPrince So they look the other way. [21:53] schestowitz[TR2] or lector will take you into hanging yourself [21:53] IsambardPrince Let some monster do it for them. [21:53] schestowitz[TR2] for spitting on the workers [21:54] IsambardPrince Lector's cell made threw cum on Clarice Starling. [21:54] IsambardPrince Lector found that to be incredibly rude. [21:54] IsambardPrince So he went to work getting the guy to hang himself. [21:55] IsambardPrince Considering that Lector was one of the most brilliant psychiatrists to ever live, it was implied that it wasn't difficult. [21:55] IsambardPrince Lector's victims all had one thing in common. [21:55] IsambardPrince He found them to be rude, arrogant, and to have made the world a worse place somehow. [21:56] TR News Slower to adopt GNU/Linux than Asia https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/argentina/#monthly-200902-202409 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/south-america/#monthly-200902-202409 [21:56] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Argentina | Statcounter Global Stats [21:56] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share South America | Statcounter Global Stats [21:56] IsambardPrince He ate a member of an orchestra because he was playing his instrument off tune and this annoyed Lector. [21:56] IsambardPrince He ate a city councilman for turning a bird sanctuary into a parking lot. [21:56] IsambardPrince :) [21:57] IsambardPrince The city councilman episode of Hannibal amused me greatly. [21:58] IsambardPrince Lector turned the guy into a tree (by tying him up and letting the tree grow throught him while keeping him alive and then planted it in the middle of the parking lot. [21:58] IsambardPrince :D [21:58] IsambardPrince Maybe the guy identified as a tree and Lector was just doing him a favor. [21:58] IsambardPrince In fact, maybe Medicaid even paid for it. [21:59] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], What's going on is medical malpractice against people who suffer from DID. ● Sep 23 [22:00] IsambardPrince And schizophrenics. [22:00] IsambardPrince Most of the behavior neatly fits into one or both categories. [22:01] IsambardPrince Modern psychiatry just sort of now plays into whatever is hurting you, more than trying to untangle it. [22:01] MinceR that's Lecter, though [22:01] IsambardPrince Oh oops. [22:01] IsambardPrince Anyway, brain fart with the spelling. [22:02] IsambardPrince Autism is listed as a frequent comorbidity in Dissociative Identity Disorder. [22:02] schestowitz[TR2] yes, i was not sure [22:02] IsambardPrince So is borderline personality. [22:02] schestowitz[TR2] when i typed lector [22:03] schestowitz[TR2] IsambardPrince> He ate a member of an orchestra [22:03] IsambardPrince " 30-70% of those diagnosed with DID have history of borderline personality disorder." [22:03] schestowitz[TR2] later he did orchestra for real [22:03] IsambardPrince https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/dissociative-identity-disorder-out-of-the-shadows-at-last/8E2884FA8669A9A64790E5C47AD72DC7 [22:03] TR Bot Dissociative identity disorder: out of the shadows at last? | The British Journal of Psychiatry | Cambridge Core [22:03] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=MAcZT4g-f_s [22:03] TR Bot Red Dragon Opera Scene - Invidious [22:04] IsambardPrince A personality split is exactly what occurs in these people. [22:04] *agentcas3y has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:04] IsambardPrince A clean fracture. [22:04] IsambardPrince Usually a clean one. [22:04] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=oy8nqpvMA5E&listen=falsehttps://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=oy8nqpvMA5E&listen=false [22:04] TR Bot Dr. Hannibal's "I Think I'll Eat Your Heart" Scene (Full Opening) | Red Dragon - Invidious [22:04] IsambardPrince It's sort of like how a bone can shatter or there can be a hairline fracture. [22:04] IsambardPrince Well, the mind can do the same thing. [22:05] IsambardPrince Break into many pieces or split straight down the middle, where you "become" this entirely different person. [22:05] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=w_fQiiqemW0&listen=false [22:05] TR Bot Red Dragon (2002) - Sudden Rush of Panic - Invidious [22:05] MinceR "I want to kill everybody in the world! / L O V E L o V e, oh.. / I want to eat your heart!" [22:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=LSrPDH7Mq58 [22:06] TR Bot Andr Rieu premieres Anthony Hopkins waltz in Vienna - Invidious [22:06] IsambardPrince Life experiences constantly change your personality a little, but the variations are usually subtle. [22:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=vSlKKC_H9Qw [22:06] IsambardPrince Normal variations. [22:06] TR Bot Andr Rieu / Anthony Hopkins - And The Waltz goes on... - Invidious [22:06] IsambardPrince This is not considered disease. [22:06] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=WoshdPpQST0 [22:06] TR Bot Anthony Hopkins about his waltz and the cooperation with Andr Rieu - Invidious [22:06] IsambardPrince But a major traumatic event or ongoing major trauma will cause more severe changes that can cross over into a disease state. [22:07] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=7unO4P87eKc [22:07] TR Bot Sir Anthony Hopkins plays the piano at Thomas Aquinas College, California - Invidious [22:07] IsambardPrince Being too low functioning to maintain steady employment due to the presence of a major mental illness is really a thing. [22:07] schestowitz[TR2] he is an actual musician [22:08] IsambardPrince This can happen due to a lot of reasons. Including an unstable personality disorder, severe despression, or other reasons. [22:08] IsambardPrince Mild depression is the kind that's usually what responds well to treatment. [22:08] schestowitz[TR2] his voice changed [22:08] schestowitz[TR2] and he is bald [22:08] IsambardPrince Some people get into a depressive funk for a clearly identifiable reason. [22:09] IsambardPrince That's relatively treatable, especially if that reason is not an ongoing thing. [22:09] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=a9cERvUX6sE [22:09] IsambardPrince You lead the patient into changing the way they feel about that so that they can begin to process it. Realize that it is over and will not continue to harm them. [22:09] TR Bot Billy Crystal's Hannibal Lecter Entrance: 1992 Oscars - Invidious [22:10] IsambardPrince Unfortunately, some get into a severe and ongoing depressive episode due to something that's difficult to overcome. [22:10] IsambardPrince Like negative body image. [22:12] IsambardPrince Psychiatrists reach a point where having failed to either explain or treat a condition, they start playing into it. [22:12] IsambardPrince This is a misguided attempt to at least minimize the harm. [22:13] IsambardPrince The way I understand it, this particular form of DID seems to be a product of the modern world. [22:13] IsambardPrince That is to say social expectations have gotten so bad that there's no longer any "enforcement" of normalcy, so some people just stop trying. [22:14] TR News Techrights Year 2 of New Techrights https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Year_2_of_New_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Year_2_of_New_Techrights.gmi [22:14] TR Bot Techrights Year 2 of New Techrights [22:14] schestowitz[TR2] https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=4rDTnRGmVBs [22:14] TR Bot Hannibal Lecter - Social Engineering (Pretexting) - Invidious [22:15] lxo schestowitz[TR2], I hadn't seen the lxer post. will do, thanks for the pointer [22:15] schestowitz[TR2] see the second screenshot [22:15] schestowitz[TR2] i put alt in it for gemini [22:15] schestowitz[TR2] it silently fails rss readers [22:15] schestowitz[TR2] i think their mistake was to also force https [22:16] schestowitz[TR2] by redirection from one protocol to another [22:16] lxo schestowitz[TR2], I can't access youtube.com, my browser is configured to not even try. it redirects me automatically to some invidious instance, but I don't watch videos in the browser, ever [22:16] schestowitz[TR2] and another por [22:16] schestowitz[TR2] rss is flaky because there are thousands of rss parsers and readers [22:16] schestowitz[TR2] some are buggy [22:17] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: it's not all bad [22:17] schestowitz[TR2] the browser as media player thing [22:17] schestowitz[TR2] unless you want to keep the video [22:17] MinceR yeah, you can have a really inefficient and buggy video player [22:17] MinceR take that! [22:17] schestowitz[TR2] invidious also protects you from google in some settings [22:17] schestowitz[TR2] by relaying all the traffic [22:18] schestowitz[TR2] MinceR: if you browse many [22:18] schestowitz[TR2] like a catalog [22:18] schestowitz[TR2] i download what i want to skeep [22:18] lxo schestowitz[TR2], I just don't function very well looking at a browser, and I don't function very well watching video. if I add both dysfunctions, I might as well not be there [22:18] schestowitz[TR2] *keep [22:18] schestowitz[TR2] sometimes you want a GUI [22:18] lxo my web browser is configured to block all javascript with 3 layers of firewalls, too [22:19] schestowitz[TR2] but Google keeps killing its own APIs [22:19] lxo I use a GUI all the time. just not a browser [22:19] schestowitz[TR2] so the applications I used over the years always broke [22:19] lxo mpv is enough of a GUI for me [22:19] schestowitz[TR2] another upside of invidious is, [22:19] lxo and it also works in terminal mode, if I come to that, but generally I'm running X and some window manager [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] it hides what you fetch [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] in some cases [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] with youtube-dl there is no mitm [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] so google can see what you like [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] and profile your ip addrress [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] i.e. who you are [22:20] schestowitz[TR2] it's hard not to give to google (away) your ip [22:21] schestowitz[TR2] some invidious instances are like youtube vpn [22:21] lxo if you run your own invidious, google will know it's you anyway; if you use someone else's invidious, you're running nonfree software. torify mpv should work [22:21] schestowitz[TR2] or spying condom [22:21] lxo (but it will put a burden on the tor network) [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] i trust a site like https://inv.nadeko.net more than youtube.com [22:22] TR Bot Invidious [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] youtube sells me [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] and my watching habits [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] very improbable https://inv.nadeko.net can monetise that [22:22] lxo best for us all would be some youtube distributed proxy, but that would be like a dedicated Tor [22:22] schestowitz[TR2] it is hosted in chile [22:22] IsambardPrince "Kmart became known for its 15-minute-long blue light specials: A store would flash a blue light and announce attention Kmart shoppers over the public address system, and customers would rush to buy the discounted goods. The promotions started in 1965 but were discontinued in 1991, although Kmart has tried to bring them back several times." [22:23] schestowitz[TR2] tthe other ones that still work are in ukraine, japan, and finlaand [22:23] IsambardPrince Beetlejuice says "Attention KMart Shoppers!" in the first movie. [22:23] IsambardPrince Most people now wouldn't get that. [22:23] lxo schestowitz[TR2], it's not about trusting, it's about giving up control over your computing. people trusted and some still trust google too. then it turned evil. I hope this invidious instance doesn't, but who knows? if you give it control over yourself, you make it a more desirable target for hostile take over [22:23] IsambardPrince They used to say that on the intercom in the store at random parts of the day. [22:24] MinceR > if you use someone else's invidious, you're running nonfree software. [22:24] MinceR what nonfree software? [22:24] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: it is a tradeoff [22:24] schestowitz[TR2] we need to ask people not to [22:24] schestowitz[TR2] 1) upload to youtubve [22:24] schestowitz[TR2] or [22:24] IsambardPrince There's be a "blue light special" at a certain area of the store. They'd have a cart with a blue flashing light on it and mark one type of item way down for 15 minutes. [22:24] schestowitz[TR2] 2) not exclusively put stuff t here [22:24] schestowitz[TR2] (uploading the video files to a webspace would work) [22:25] MinceR IsambardPrince: shop smart! shop s-mart! [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] > if you use someone else's invidious, you're running nonfree software. [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] not the same issue [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] as RMS explained in berlin [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] you do not control the program [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] but that's an aside [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] from 4 Freedoms [22:25] MinceR ic [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] thenn consider systemd [22:25] schestowitz[TR2] do you REALLY exercise control? [22:26] schestowitz[TR2] RMS was not asked about it in http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/09/Video_Richard_Stallman_s_New_Talk_in_Germany_Covers_What_Free_S.shtml [22:26] lxo oh, don't get me started on systemd [22:26] TR Bot Techrights [Video] Richard Stallman's New Talk in Germany Covers What Free Software Means, Why LLMs are "Bullshit", and Lots More (Web3 Summit 2024 Berlin) [22:26] schestowitz[TR2] but he did mention github being awful [22:26] lxo MinceR, software that does your computing under someone else's control is nonfree software for you [22:26] schestowitz[TR2] last time ii downloaded systemd to count files and LOCs [22:27] schestowitz[TR2] it was in the millions [22:27] schestowitz[TR2] it's jusst a a pile offf shit like containers [22:27] schestowitz[TR2] way too many objects [22:27] schestowitz[TR2] nobody can audit it [22:27] lxo MinceR, the freely-licensed software shipped by a third-party invidious server to run on your browser is nonfree for you in that setting [22:27] schestowitz[TR2] not even them [22:27] schestowitz[TR2] and they prefer it that way [22:27] MinceR in a way, i suppose [22:27] IsambardPrince https://finance.yahoo.com/personal-finance/divorce-and-mortgage-174118788.html [22:27] IsambardPrince LOL [22:27] TR Bot 6 options for handling your mortgage when getting a divorce [22:27] lxo it's like tivoization [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] right [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] apr analogy [22:28] IsambardPrince What to do when you get a 7% 30 year loan that it took two incomes to support. [22:28] IsambardPrince :D [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] but then you can go further [22:28] lxo you have a copy, you have source code, you can audit, you can modify it, but you can't run the modified version in that setting [22:28] MinceR this could be fixed in the browser [22:28] MinceR in theory [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] this month we said aws is tivoisation [22:28] lxo MinceR, yes, it could. it isn't [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] almost all the clown hosting is [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] even cpanel [22:28] MinceR but my idea for a new browser would also fix it [22:28] MinceR too bad i have no energy to work on it [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] cpanel is proprietary [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] but even if the webhost installs some other panel [22:28] IsambardPrince I told my mom when she married Gonad she had lit a 16 year long fuse that led to bankruptcy. [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] and not in your userspace [22:28] IsambardPrince Called a mortgage. [22:28] schestowitz[TR2] it's tivoised [22:28] lxo I look forward to your idea and new browser ;-) [22:29] schestowitz[TR2] many hosts have some high level thing for rebooting a VM or opening support tickets [22:29] IsambardPrince The article doesn't mention bankruptcy. [22:29] IsambardPrince Imagine that. [22:29] MinceR my idea is to basically take yt-dlp's idea of doing client-side processing of a website to make its content consumable and apply it to websites that depend on javascript and to a static browser [22:29] schestowitz[TR2] you have no control over these, usually a P (perl, python, php) [22:29] MinceR have site-specific scripts to fetch and process data that wouldn't be fetched/presented correctly by a static browser [22:30] MinceR then just render an unchanging page to the user [22:30] MinceR plus add warnings for content that the user is not seeing, with a link [22:30] *schestowitz[TR2] works on article about YouTube.com [22:31] MinceR e.g. you have a video on the page and don't want to implement a video player in the browser -> it is replaced with a warning and a button/link to open the video in mpv [22:31] lxo I'm told userscripts could help replace third-party javascript with locally-modified versions. but that doesn't seem workable as evil web sites keep changing their minified scripts, and multiple pieces are tightly integrated. it seems like a real challenge to be able to customize that [22:31] MinceR or maybe you don't want background images because they interfere with readability, so instead you can get links to them [22:31] lxo browsers with user control added on sounds like a great idea to me [22:32] MinceR yeah, the replacing of javascript built into a page with a local version would work better if the site (e.g. invidious) supported it [22:32] lxo currently they're made to serve users to exploiters [22:33] lxo but browser brokenness is a symptom of a broken web, which is in turn a symptom of larger problems [22:33] MinceR another example for the content warning thing would be if there's no animated gif support in the browser, it can just render one frame and offer to open the gif with gwenview [22:34] MinceR well, we have a broken society, but that's difficult to fix [22:34] MinceR and broken people [22:34] lxo *nod* [22:42] lxo I've long dreamed of an emacs-like browser, that was dynamically user extensible in the ways emacs is. we already have some of that sort of browser features in emacs itself, but perhaps it would be more natural for browsers to be extended with javascript. I don't know whether javascript is as suited to user extensions as emacs-lisp, or whether browsers' architectures would be suited to such extension mechanisms (probably, given how plugins and [22:42] lxo extensions work), but... browsers are really not my thing. maybe if they were more like emacs I'd find them more tolerable [22:44] TR News Techrights YouTube Might Still Be Accessible Using Some Free Software (for Now), But Not YouTube.com https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_Might_Still_Be_Accessible_Using_Some_Free_Software_for_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/YouTube_Might_Still_Be_Accessible_Using_Some_Free_Software_for_.gmi [22:44] TR Bot Techrights YouTube Might Still Be Accessible Using Some Free Software (for Now), But Not YouTube.com [22:44] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: ^ [22:49] MinceR this one is allegedly programmable >> https://nyxt.atlas.engineer [22:49] TR Bot Nyxt browser: The hacker's browser [22:51] MinceR https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/09/bofh_2023_episode_/ [22:51] TR Bot BOFH: Good news, everyone: we're in the sausage business The Register [22:52] lxo schestowitz[TR2], thanks [22:55] schestowitz[TR2] there is a follow-up [22:55] schestowitz[TR2] eta 2 mins [22:56] schestowitz[TR2] your new article is in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/09/23/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml [22:56] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers ● Sep 23 [23:00] TR News Techrights The Slow March Towards Computers as Prison https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/The_Slow_March_Towards_Computers_as_Prison.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/The_Slow_March_Towards_Computers_as_Prison.gmi [23:00] TR Bot Techrights The Slow March Towards Computers as Prison [23:00] liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo [23:00] liberty_box libertybox2_ libertybox2__ libertybox2___ libredev lightbringer logbackup lxo [23:00] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: http://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/The_Slow_March_Towards_Computers_as_Prison.shtml [23:00] TR Bot Techrights The Slow March Towards Computers as Prison [23:18] TR News "A not uncommon concern in roguelike (or grid-based) games that seek more realismputting aside how realistic motion is for a virtual character on a virtual gridis whether to cost a diagonal move at 99 versus orthogonal moves at 70, more or less. Why these numbers?" gemini://thrig.me/blog/2024/09/23/diagonal-cost.gmi [23:19] TR News Techrights 5649 Articles/Pages in the First Year https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/5649_Articles_Pages_in_the_First_Year.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/5649_Articles_Pages_in_the_First_Year.gmi [23:19] TR Bot Techrights 5649 Articles/Pages in the First Year [23:19] TR News best of the /de\cent||ral\ized/ web gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2199 "i've enjoted the past six months on gemini ~t r e m e n d o u s l y~ it's been a truly cathartic online experience i've got to the point where i'm mostly hanging around gemini somewhere or other" [23:20] TR News active day gemini://midnight.pub/posts/2198 [23:37] TR News Techrights GNU is Turning 41 Next Week and It'll Outlive Linux https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/GNU_is_Turning_41_Next_Week_and_It_ll_Outlive_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/GNU_is_Turning_41_Next_Week_and_It_ll_Outlive_Linux.gmi [23:37] TR Bot Techrights GNU is Turning 41 Next Week and It'll Outlive Linux [23:44] TR News Techrights [Meme] Playing 'Internet Cops' https://techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Playing_Internet_Cops.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/09/23/Meme_Playing_Internet_Cops.gmi [23:44] TR Bot Techrights [Meme] Playing 'Internet Cops' [23:44] TR News Year 2 started as a very productive one https://techrights.org/browse/latest.shtml [23:44] TR Bot Chronological Index, Page 53 [23:51] TR News "IBM is a corporate mirage where the execs now celebrate failure as success while they plunder what is left of the irrelevant company." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCZn1p6 [23:51] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uCZn1p6 ) [23:52] TR News "if you think you are next in line to be laid off, you probably are not wrong - the only exception to this rule is if you are Alvind, in which case only the id--ts on the IBM board can fire your azz." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEbkS1V [23:52] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEbkS1V ) [23:52] TR News "Same situation. Getting annoyed by having to learn new skills while thinking am I next ?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEbkS1V [23:53] TR News "is that why the article speculating on Alvind's upcoming retirement which was posted earlier today (Sept 23, 2024) disappeared from this site...very quietly ii LOL ! Only a spineless, unethical CEO would get his minions to do this." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uENRAeH [23:53] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uENRAeH ) [23:55] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.reddit.com/r/IBM/comments/1flla5f/is_ibms_ceo_avind_krishna_about_to_retire/ [23:55] schestowitz[TR2] "is that why the article speculating on Alvind's upcoming retirement which was posted earlier today (Sept 23, 2024) disappeared from this site...very quietly ?? LOL ! [23:55] schestowitz[TR2] Only a spineless, unethical CEO would get his minions to do this. [23:55] schestowitz[TR2] 52 minutes ago by Anonymous" [23:55] schestowitz[TR2] https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uENRAeH [23:55] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.reddit.com/r/IBM/comments/1flla5f/is_ibms_ceo_avind_krishna_about_to_retire/ ) [23:58] TR News "I remember when the announcement was made. Like most IBMers my initial reaction was "who the he-l is Arv......" then checked Wikipedia and LinkedIn and there was nothing. It was in the days after the announcement that those "thin" bios on both sites were created by IBM PR. He came out of nowhere." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBIMZvn [23:58] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBIMZvn ) [23:58] TR News "And the initial assumption was he was a temporary caretaker CEO until Whitehurst was ready. Yet here we are." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uBIMZvn [23:59] TR News "IBM suspended the RTO for non-managers but just waiting to see if that changes and IBM follows AWS and the 5 days a lot of people travel at IBM so good luck to track all that stuff!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEkVPbf [23:59] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1uEkVPbf )