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schestowitzhttps://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/joinup/news/shaping-future-interoperability-policyOct 23 00:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joinup.ec.europa.eu | Shaping the future interoperability policy | JoinupOct 23 00:04
schestowitz# this is already in the links by it is important!Oct 23 00:04
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Most Innovative ~$50 Graphics Card For Linux Users | Tux Machines ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143550 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb70413f-f8ad-4985-9639-2e41af4af29a]Oct 23 00:15
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/696698.jpgOct 23 00:22
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Magic Hour....Oct 23 01:04
DaemonFC[m]Came up on an episode of Law & Order SVU.Oct 23 01:04
DaemonFC[m]A photography studio where the photographer is raping an underage girl.Oct 23 01:04
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: TechRadar is an Irresponsible Clickbait and Misinformation Site Disguised as ‘News’ http://techrights.org/2020/10/22/techradar-misinformation/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/52a3502c-d6d0-4373-be5f-841427d38186]Oct 23 01:17
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: we need the court docsOct 23 01:21
schestowitzThe term itself is suspiciousOct 23 01:22
schestowitzwe discussed this in IRC beforeOct 23 01:22
schestowitzit would be interested to know if Seattle Police also investigated Brett (was that his name?)Oct 23 01:23
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/696634.jpgOct 23 01:24
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/696527.pngOct 23 01:38
XRevan86twist: it was his sonOct 23 01:39
MinceRAnd then, John was a Zombie.Oct 23 01:42
schestowitzlolOct 23 01:52
schestowitzgood oneOct 23 01:52
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schestowitzXRevan86: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/10/20/the-pylons-have-earsOct 23 02:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEOct 23 02:06
XRevan86schestowitz: I thought they're already doing thatOct 23 02:10
schestowitzmaybeOct 23 02:16
schestowitzand not the public knowsOct 23 02:16
schestowitz*nowOct 23 02:16
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I wrote about covidOct 23 02:28
schestowitzif you want to read alsoOct 23 02:28
schestowitzbefore I publishOct 23 02:28
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DaemonFC[m]sureOct 23 03:24
DaemonFC[m]https://www.wired.com/story/companies-rushing-use-ai-few-see-payoff/Oct 23 03:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Companies Are Rushing to Use AI—but Few See a Payoff | WIREDOct 23 03:24
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: These "AI" companies aren't really getting anything from it.Oct 23 03:24
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: about to write about BidenOct 23 03:31
schestowitzthis one you might want to read before finalOct 23 03:31
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: Oct 23 03:32
schestowitzquick http://techrights.org/2020/10/22/tech-rights-in-the-us/Oct 23 03:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | For Better ‘Tech Rights’ in the United States (and the World at Large) the ‘Orange Man’ Needs to Go | TechrightsOct 23 03:32
schestowitzthe timing seems right, I have not proofread it yetOct 23 03:32
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ping ^^Oct 23 03:41
DaemonFC[m]SorryOct 23 03:42
DaemonFC[m]I already voted, but I watched the debate.Oct 23 03:42
DaemonFC[m]Wasn't as bad as the first.Oct 23 03:42
schestowitzlet me know if you see errors or typosOct 23 03:43
schestowitzthis is likely the only article we do on this subjectOct 23 03:43
schestowitzbiden will eventually be pres-electOct 23 03:43
schestowitzwhether he gets inaugurated in january, hard to tell...Oct 23 03:43
schestowitzafter that he'll disappoint his voters like obama didOct 23 03:43
DaemonFC[m]"public is limiting "Oct 23 03:44
DaemonFC[m]limitedOct 23 03:44
schestowitzso I also don't want to seem as though I really trust him (I don't), otherwise it won't "age well"Oct 23 03:44
DaemonFC[m]"even thwarted "Oct 23 03:44
DaemonFC[m]No period.Oct 23 03:44
DaemonFC[m]"nepotism and cover-up"Oct 23 03:47
DaemonFC[m]nepotism, and cover-upOct 23 03:47
DaemonFC[m]Looks okay other than that.Oct 23 03:47
schestowitzthanks, all fixed as suggested by youOct 23 03:49
schestowitzorange man needs to lose by a massive marginOct 23 03:50
schestowitzso that there's nothing to argue aboutOct 23 03:50
schestowitzlike mccain-obamaOct 23 03:50
DaemonFC[m]I think he will.Oct 23 03:52
schestowitzhope soOct 23 03:52
DaemonFC[m]36% of the total 2016 vote numbers are already in.Oct 23 03:52
schestowitzpeople don't like being lectured how to voteOct 23 03:52
DaemonFC[m]Massive early voting turnout. Oct 23 03:52
schestowitzso I only remarked on the facts as I know them in domains I cover a lotOct 23 03:52
DaemonFC[m]An October surprise 3 days before the election wouldn't matter quite as much even if it worked.Oct 23 03:52
schestowitztrueOct 23 03:53
schestowitzmakes me wonder about all this "early" votingOct 23 03:53
schestowitzI mean, even without the countingOct 23 03:53
schestowitzthe fact that people vote based on different status quoOct 23 03:53
schestowitzlike, if a war eruptedOct 23 03:53
DaemonFC[m]I voted in person and just canceled out the mail ballot. Oct 23 03:53
schestowitzor if Iran was nuked by TrumpOct 23 03:53
DaemonFC[m]More people are showing up because Trump is deeply unpopular.Oct 23 03:53
DaemonFC[m]All the Republicans always vote so there are no new voters for Trump to go after.Oct 23 03:54
schestowitzmaybe the US needed 4 years of fascism to learn why to always avoid it in the distant futureOct 23 03:54
schestowitzbut much damage was doneOct 23 03:54
DaemonFC[m]But Democrats have been fuming for 4 years.Oct 23 03:54
DaemonFC[m]2018 was foreshadowing of what's to happen this year, I think.Oct 23 03:54
schestowitzi loled at Oct 23 03:55
schestowitz[03:22] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): ● NEWS ● #TruthOut #dementia #deluded ☞ #Trump Abruptly Ends “60 Minutes” Interview Tweeting It Was “FAKE and BIASED” https://truthout.org/articles/trump-abruptly-ends-60-minutes-interview-tweeting-it-was-fake-and-biased/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/feefeaa3-e25d-433f-a195-b48245543134]Oct 23 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump Abruptly Ends “60 Minutes” Interview Tweeting It Was “FAKE and BIASED”Oct 23 03:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.siteOct 23 03:55
DaemonFC[m]I laughed when Trump said Republicans would take back the House.Oct 23 03:55
DaemonFC[m]There's <5% chance that it could happen and even then they couldn't afford to lose any votes on anything.Oct 23 03:55
schestowitzwhose house?Oct 23 03:55
schestowitzand who takes it?Oct 23 03:55
schestowitzFBI?Oct 23 03:55
schestowitzWAT team?Oct 23 03:56
schestowitzSWATOct 23 03:56
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schestowitzyear, they'll take the house, in Trump tower, once he's outOct 23 03:56
DaemonFC[m]The House of Representatives.....the Democrats are likely to pick up more seats than they have now.Oct 23 03:56
schestowitzand also take evidence along with "the house"Oct 23 03:56
DaemonFC[m]It's unfortunate that they keep making Nancy Pelosi the Speaker though.Oct 23 03:56
schestowitzkeeps plutocrats in powerOct 23 03:56
schestowitzthey control her betterOct 23 03:56
schestowitzthis way they can't loseOct 23 03:57
schestowitzthey win either wayOct 23 03:57
schestowitzmore trump, more pelosi, "whatever..."Oct 23 03:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143552 [https://pleroma.site/objects/92dd1255-269c-4067-8251-ccec84e4bc93]Oct 23 04:05
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 23/10/2020: ‘Groovy Gorilla’ Everywhere in the News http://techrights.org/2020/10/22/groovy-gorilla-2020/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/c5ef19dc-147f-42b9-ab02-d2d862b00033]Oct 23 04:17
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CrystalMathi think it's gonna be a tossup for presidentOct 23 04:39
CrystalMathi don't think republicans will take congressOct 23 04:39
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DaemonFC[m]https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/10/22/business/coke-zico-tab/index.htmlOct 23 07:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amp.cnn.com | Coke is canceling 200 drink brands - CNNOct 23 07:23
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-NickServ-acer-box!~acer-box@host81-154-169-118.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz)Oct 23 10:13
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux-Based TrueNAS SCALE Alpha Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143455#comment-26815 [https://pleroma.site/objects/12f3944c-ba51-49aa-8783-1f6f1a55e5fe]Oct 23 10:41
superkuhhttp://john.ankarstrom.se/html2/ Static versus dynamic web sitesOct 23 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-john.ankarstrom.se | Static versus dynamic web sitesOct 23 10:41
superkuhhttps://linuxreviews.org/Modern_Web_Standards_Are_Leaving_Niche_Web_Browsers_BehindOct 23 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Modern Web Standards Are Leaving Niche Web Browsers Behind - LinuxReviewsOct 23 10:41
schestowitzI saw thatOct 23 10:50
schestowitzsuperkuh: both of themOct 23 10:50
schestowitzmaking a good point btwOct 23 10:50
superkuhOkay. Yeah, they were from yesterday. Just got up.Oct 23 10:50
oiaohmTo be correct Niche browsers having issues started around 2002.Oct 23 10:50
oiaohmYes it got progressively worse from them since then.Oct 23 10:51
oiaohmIts really simple to forget when in 2002 we had lots of sites that if you were not using internet explorer it was not working.Oct 23 10:53
oiaohmsuperkuh: so the idea that is web standards leaving niche browsers behind is only part the story.   Its been a long term problem that those developing websites only test their site at worst with the most popular web browser if you are lucky with the top 5.Oct 23 10:55
oiaohmThis also means there are tones of sites out there that depend on chrome only quirks that are not part of the standard at the moment as well.Oct 23 10:56
superkuh"Best viewed in Chrome"Oct 23 10:56
oiaohmYep some web developers even put that on site.Oct 23 10:56
oiaohmjust like they use to put Best viewed in IE.Oct 23 10:56
superkuhParty like it's 1999.Oct 23 10:56
oiaohmThose developing websites still have the same classes of cost cutting bosses behind them like they did in 1999.Oct 23 10:57
oiaohmSo the world has not really changed that much.Oct 23 10:57
superkuhExcept that browser spec now is more complex than the OS because it reimplements all OS features except indirectly.Oct 23 10:59
oiaohmYes and no.   Its double sided the early part of the problem microsoft and mozilla would be adding their own custom  features without putting them to the standard body.Oct 23 11:01
oiaohmEarly required the third party browsers to go searching over IE and Firefox to work out what they had to implement to be compadible.Oct 23 11:02
oiaohmIts a long term multi level nightmare with no end in site.Oct 23 11:02
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oiaohmsuperkuh  with that static vs dynamic.    I normally lean to generated made static.  For 2 reasons 1. to try to contain human typos.  2. when you need to put quirk handling code in your html.Oct 23 11:05
oiaohmdynamic does bring in extra levels of o my they updated php and broke something.Oct 23 11:05
oiaohmOr updates javaOct 23 11:05
oiaohm...Oct 23 11:06
superkuhI think the sweet spot is met with hand (or otherwise individually) written individual html pages displayed with server side includes.Oct 23 11:06
oiaohmI have had to do sites that have had to be conforming for vision standards like  WCAG 2.1  using a static generator its possible to add a nice lint code to it to check for all those things.Oct 23 11:09
oiaohmBasically you screw something up have the generator yell at you so your customer never sees it.Oct 23 11:09
superkuhSure, if you are making a site for money or some other compensation then you do whatever. Even if it's dirty.Oct 23 11:10
superkuhBut lets not think of what is best on the web in terms of what dirty things we're required to do for money.Oct 23 11:11
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oiaohmalso its sometimes country laws on access as well.  So even if the site was personal you could be screwed for some of the requirements.Oct 23 11:19
oiaohmbasically I just prefer generate lint yell at me than customer or government.Oct 23 11:19
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schestowitzzoobab: http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/10/23/ffii-preparing-constitutional-complaint-against-unified-patent-court-agreement/Oct 23 16:07
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schestowitz[16:30] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #gnome assumes we use #surveillance devices known as 'smart' phones (see barcode at the bottom) :( (same GNOME Foundation to lobbied to expel @fsf founder) https://blogs.gnome.org/engagement/2020/10/23/gnome-asia-2020-registrations-are-open/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/a931ebc0-fcc2-4fc1-976e-4f8cef2a5852]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[16:32] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): On the same day, this same person contradicts self, preaching about the importance of #transparency (not in the #surveillance sense) while also assuming people use opaque 'smart' phones :/ :/ http://deblanc.net/blog/2020/10/23/endorsements/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/cd49412d-97cf-4eaf-b1ce-b6fd05a5fb26]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[16:33] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): And speaking of "Transparency", this is the same person who went on a witch-hunt against someone for actually doing the job of transparency for #debian by exposing nepotism (getting a job because of the relationship, the partner) http://deblanc.net/blog/20... [https://pleroma.site/objects/16d7d06a-2e5b-4841-818e-e8b9abc728b5]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[16:34] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Are these fake #freesw people even listening to themselves? I imagine they use #apple "MACS" or something... preaching about freedom and transparency while spitting at the face of both [https://pleroma.site/objects/7315f604-d552-495d-a593-75bb2420f20f]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[16:36] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): With phonies like de Icaza and Deb Icaza around, infiltrating communities to usher #microsoft in with its #proprietarySoftware and #spyware people must not take job titles at face value. Check backgrounds! [https://pleroma.site/objects/f163ed32-6e09-40bc-b2d1-93e1528b2689]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[16:37] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): To the credit of #ibm its past two CEOs were both technical geeks, unlike the criminal who ran #microsoft The latter (latest) comes from a military background/family, but I can't see/say much negative about the army of #india [https://pleroma.site/objects/423e3797-e90b-431e-bdb6-fc767653cac6]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[16:39] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): The term "Deb Icaza" is not mine by the way, but it's quite apt, so I borrowed it. When FSF gives awards to people who covertly work for #microsoft and in one case even sell keynotes (for 2 years) to Microsoft in an event called after what Microsoft ATTACK... [https://pleroma.site/objects/409a9e1b-ce50-4a90-ac30-8e69a1d2fa08]Oct 23 17:20
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schestowitz[17:21] <schestowitz> OSI, GNOMEOct 23 17:22
schestowitz[17:21] <schestowitz> SFCOct 23 17:22
schestowitz[17:22] <schestowitz> who next?Oct 23 17:22
schestowitz[17:22] <schestowitz> DefectorsOct 23 17:22
schestowitz[17:22] <schestowitz> pushing proprietary stuff for cashOct 23 17:22
schestowitzIt's like so-called "across the aisle" democrats"Oct 23 17:23
schestowitzmaking alliances for the fascists when the corporate masters stand to gain from "bipartisan"Oct 23 17:23
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MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/bW9s7tq.mp4Oct 23 18:03
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schestowitzzoobab: OTR-ish, the comment on the above post is pure nonsenseOct 23 19:34
schestowitzhardly even worth a mention tbhOct 23 19:34
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schestowitzzoobab: https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2020/10/germany-tries-again-to-ratify-unified-patent-court-agreementOct 23 19:59
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schestowitzzoobab: will you have an account with rss feed somewhere like fediverse?Oct 23 20:09
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XRevan86https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.mdOct 23 22:46
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scientesXRevan86, I wish them good luckOct 23 23:04
XRevan86I wish that they both defend against the DMCA notice and go to a better platform.Oct 23 23:05
scientesoh damn they really did block all those linksOct 23 23:05
scientesand yt-dl.org is hosted by githubOct 23 23:05
scientesso they kinda just fucked everyone over, because MicrosoftOct 23 23:06
XRevan86Yes, their whole operation is frozen.Oct 23 23:06
scienteswell, you can still get it from DebianOct 23 23:06
schestowitzhttps://github.com/github/dmca/tree/master/2020/10Oct 23 23:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dmca/2020/10 at master · github/dmca · GitHubOct 23 23:06
scientesand Debian doesn't host in the US anymore to avoid that bullshitOct 23 23:06
schestowitzdebian uses salsa with gitlabOct 23 23:07
schestowitzthey wrote about their "salsa" server this weekOct 23 23:07
schestowitzI think it's GOogle-hostedOct 23 23:07
XRevan86scientes: I hope they'll go for codeberg or something.Oct 23 23:07
schestowitz"Cloud"Oct 23 23:07
schestowitzso Google can still knock down their wordOct 23 23:07
schestowitz*workOct 23 23:07
schestowitz[10:49] <schestowitz> It should be noted that #debian has outsourced its development pipeline to #google servers whilst also deleting from mailing lists archives messages that warn against usage of #gmail accounts (as it enables spying on the project). Guess who’s Debian’s largest sponsor…Oct 23 23:07
schestowitz[10:42] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #debian "Salsa" updated to #GitLab 13.5 https://bblank.thinkmo.de/salsa-updated-to-gitlab-135.html #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/89944801-1c21-4a74-aeb3-0a0bfd97c6d4]Oct 23 23:07
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scientesAfter the arrest of the Russian eBook hacked on orders of Amazon there has been shunning of US jusistiction through Fear Uncertainty and DoubtOct 23 23:08
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scientesspecicically that DMCA clause that was used thereOct 23 23:08
XRevan86scientes: What Russian eBook?Oct 23 23:08
scienteshttps://www.wired.com/story/aleksei-burkov-russia-hacking-extradition/Oct 23 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russia Fails to Stop Alleged Hacker From Facing US Charges | WIREDOct 23 23:09
scientesoh no, not that guyOct 23 23:09
scientesit was earlierOct 23 23:09
scientesearly internet daysOct 23 23:10
*XRevan86 looks at the photo where it isn't marked who Andrei is.Oct 23 23:10
XRevan86I guess it's the Slav-looking one. Oh, and he doesn't wear a uniform too.Oct 23 23:10
scienteshttps://www.eff.org/cases/us-v-elcomsoft-sklyarovOct 23 23:12
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MinceRmaybe people will learn from thisOct 23 23:13
MinceRstop hosting stuff on microsuck shithub, stop buying shit that gives the MAFIAA moneyOct 23 23:14
MinceRbut humans generally don't learn, and will become extinct insteadOct 23 23:14
scientesMinceR, learn that scary men might at any time pull you out of bed, just because you wanted to be able to read your recipe book on your other tablet?Oct 23 23:14
MinceRpossiblyOct 23 23:14
scientes<MinceR> but humans generally don't learn, and will become extinct insteadOct 23 23:15
scientesnon sequitorOct 23 23:15
MinceRwe need to stop relying on the states and megacorporations for thingsOct 23 23:15
MinceRand then abolish bothOct 23 23:15
scientesjust because only the dumb survive doesn't mean that humans go extinctOct 23 23:15
MinceRthat's not what i saidOct 23 23:15
MinceRhumans refuse to learn, stupid people gain and retain power and fuck up society and the planet, eventually humans won't be able to surviveOct 23 23:16
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/10/23/delete-github-reasons/Oct 23 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Embrace, Extend, and Extensions: Two New Reasons to Delete GitHub, Which Microsoft Ruined for Everyone (Except the Copyright Cartel and Other Censors) | TechrightsOct 23 23:22
schestowitzMinceR: , XRevan86, scientes can you read the above?Oct 23 23:22
schestowitzit has typos for sure, I have not proofread it yetOct 23 23:22
scientesso they are trying to prevent scripts for searching github?Oct 23 23:24
scienteslike userscripts?Oct 23 23:24
schestowitzworseOct 23 23:24
schestowitzsome browsers are denied accessOct 23 23:24
schestowitzmine renders it all wrong already... for yearsOct 23 23:24
schestowitzwhat should have been a simple UIOct 23 23:24
schestowitzthey add 'featuresOct 23 23:24
schestowitz"FEEECHURS"Oct 23 23:24
scientesyeah, that is purposeful EEEOct 23 23:24
scientesclearlyOct 23 23:25
schestowitzbut "GET EDGE"Oct 23 23:25
schestowitzit;s better and it phones momma MicrsooftOct 23 23:25
XRevan86it's better *because*Oct 23 23:27
XRevan86it phones backOct 23 23:27
scientesalso, the way firefox downloads videos is much more complicated these days, and without youtube-dl it is very hard to have firefox dump media filesOct 23 23:28
schestowitzany typos?Oct 23 23:28
schestowitzI found oneOct 23 23:28
scienteswith flash it use to be really easy, you just had to look in /tmpOct 23 23:29
schestowitzbad formatsOct 23 23:29
schestowitzsome opaque object filesOct 23 23:29
schestowitzjust get EDGE with EMEOct 23 23:29
schestowitzthe 'new SIlverLIGHT"Oct 23 23:29
schestowitz"can't you commie geeks use the browser like everybody else!!" - Satya Nadla YayaOct 23 23:30
scientesalso the blog-like feature of YouTube is not available on the web siteOct 23 23:30
scientesonly on the android appOct 23 23:30
schestowitzuse yewtu.beOct 23 23:30
schestowitzI use it a lot nowOct 23 23:30
scientesremember when they refused to show pre-rolls because they wanted to take over the world?Oct 23 23:31
schestowitzto stream walks and nature videos in the background, no ads and spyingOct 23 23:31
schestowitz*afaikOct 23 23:31
scientesschestowitz, that is pretty nice, it will allow you to download anythin gin the DASH manifestOct 23 23:32
scientesand IIRC the source for that web site is free softwareOct 23 23:33
scientes>  Released under the AGPLv3 by Omar Roth. Oct 23 23:33
schestowitzagplv3Oct 23 23:33
schestowitzor laterOct 23 23:33
schestowitzoh, beat me to itOct 23 23:34
schestowitzi mentioned that site earlier this week, there are about a dozen more instances I know ofOct 23 23:34
schestowitzthis one is rather reliableOct 23 23:34
schestowitzuntil google sends out the lawyersOct 23 23:34
schestowitzI assume they observe scale/reach of the sitesOct 23 23:35
scientesgoogle doesn't have toOct 23 23:35
scientesbecause aparently safe harbor doesn't mean jack shitOct 23 23:35
schestowitzand they hit the bigger one when they exceed some $NASTYGRAM_THRESHOLDOct 23 23:35
schestowitznever a single ad, you can stream hdOct 23 23:38
schestowitzand afaik no js that does malicious stuffOct 23 23:38
schestowitzI assume they stream  directly from google serversOct 23 23:38
schestowitzso they might figure out only your ipOct 23 23:38
schestowitzyou can get the "content" without all the maliceOct 23 23:39
schestowitzrecently they added LOTS of nagging popupsOct 23 23:39
schestowitzI think increasing in frequency over timeOct 23 23:40
schestowitzto compel people to create an account and "log in"Oct 23 23:40
schestowitzthough they can spy just fine without it, using cookies and worseOct 23 23:40
schestowitzthe ads became too frequent too, sometimes never ending tOct 23 23:40
schestowitzto the point you have to put the whole thing on mute because you can look away but not shut the earsOct 23 23:40
schestowitzyewtu.be solves ALL these issuesOct 23 23:41
schestowitzalso cuts down the bloat, performance is vastly betterOct 23 23:41
XRevan86schestowitz: That an Invidious instance :).Oct 23 23:42
schestowitzChaekyung: this one seems to have gone 'viral', released days ago ahead of album release on Nov 3rd  https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dfl9KIX1WpUOct 23 23:44
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schestowitzXRevan86: yes, I knowOct 23 23:44
schestowitzsome are too dodgy or flakyOct 23 23:45
schestowitzthis one seems reliable enoughOct 23 23:45
schestowitz(while it lasts)Oct 23 23:45
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