●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, January 24, 2021 ●● ● Jan 24 [00:00] _I3^RELATIVISM nnonsensical [00:00] _I3^RELATIVISM wouldnt trust that guy [00:00] psydroid Did free software need a financial incentive in its early days? [00:01] _I3^RELATIVISM that is diferent it is not a corporation psydroid [00:01] psydroid It's not about trusting him or not, he had some good points in his presentation, that's all [00:01] _I3^RELATIVISM true [00:01] _I3^RELATIVISM simple lincensing is important [00:02] _I3^RELATIVISM I think would be smart to try to push creative commons to do so [00:02] *Lantizia has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:02] _I3^RELATIVISM there have been some openess to it in the past [00:02] _I3^RELATIVISM similar to the cern licenses structur [00:03] psydroid Yes, but is free software about corporations first? I thought they only came around when they sensed money could be made from it and look what it got us to [00:03] _I3^RELATIVISM ? [00:03] _I3^RELATIVISM anyway [00:03] _I3^RELATIVISM Add dual licensing scheme GPLv3 fork under crative commons software plus apache licensedor MIT under a fee /watch?v=vTsc1m78BUk [00:03] _I3^RELATIVISM A strongly-reciprocal variant, CC-S-S. A weakly-reciprocal variant, CC-S-W. A permissive variant, CC-S-P. [00:03] _I3^RELATIVISM the later to would be paid for [00:04] _I3^RELATIVISM also goes well with an idea I started writing about yesterday mostly [00:04] _I3^RELATIVISM https://libregit.org/GVRN/GVRNspec [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libregit.org | GVRN/GVRNspec - GVRNspec - LibreGit [00:05] _I3^RELATIVISM <_I3^RELATIVISM "?"> you probably misunderstood my messages psydroid [00:06] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [00:07] psydroid Probably because it's not always clear what you are saying [00:07] _I3^RELATIVISM not everyone was born in a english golden basket [00:08] _I3^RELATIVISM so such entitlement is defenately not helpfull [00:08] *Lantizia (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [00:08] _I3^RELATIVISM in other words english is not my native language [00:09] psydroid Maybe you could try to explain what you meant in another language you could more easily express yourself in [00:10] GNUmoon schestowitz__: Google is blackmailing Australia as they are threatening their entire business model (i.e. surveillance capitalism) with legislation that would force google to pay the media corporations for news content. [00:10] GNUmoon https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/22/google-threatens-to-shut-down-search-in-australia-if-digital-news-code-goes-ahead [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Google threatens to shut down search in Australia if digital news code goes ahead | Australian media | The Guardian [00:11] schestowitz__ GNUmoon: yes, I saw [00:11] schestowitz__ it's in latest techrgihts Daily Links, too [00:11] schestowitz__ The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146798 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 | Tux Machines [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2021/01/24/ [00:11] schestowitz__ oops [00:11] schestowitz__ wrong paste [00:11] schestowitz__ https://www.itwire.com/open-sauce/memo-to-google-and-facebook-please-pack-your-bags-and-go.html [00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Memo to Google and Facebook: please pack your bags and go [00:11] GNUmoon ahh okay, I just saw it myself :) [00:20] schestowitz__ in the bill gates-funded 'guardian' :-) [00:20] schestowitz__ They always love going after "GAFA" [00:24] vZS1 GNU and Linux would not exist without GPL. We need AGPLV3 to deal with the clown problem. [00:25] vZS1 You need to make sure people can't just run away with your work without at least acknowledging that it's a derivative [00:25] vZS1 Complexity of the license is necessary because the law is complicated. [00:26] schestowitz__ and clowns are disingenuous [00:27] vZS1 GNU should relicense everything to AGPLV3 [00:29] vZS1 I've noticed that a lot of F-Droid programs are AGPLV3. They get it as mobile developers. People can't put their code in the clown and not give anything back to them. [00:30] vZS1 Because mobile software is particularly vulnerable to being hijacked by some clown service provider [00:31] vZS1 Whether we like it or not, mobile computing is going to be around for a while. We should have GNU software on mobile too. [00:31] schestowitz__ yup [00:31] schestowitz__ what is "mobile software"? [00:31] vZS1 Why let the monopolies control our phones. GNU should be universal [00:31] schestowitz__ Software that would typically go on a small potable device? [00:31] vZS1 Yeah [00:32] vZS1 As in mobile phones [00:32] vZS1 I guess that's old terminology now [00:32] schestowitz__ monopolists already control the lion's share of those devices types/form factor [00:32] schestowitz__ at OS and carrier level [00:32] schestowitz__ see BT [00:32] vZS1 They did with personal computers as well [00:32] vZS1 But GNU changed that [00:33] vZS1 And it can change this too [00:33] schestowitz__ I have come to the conclusion that the throttling is retaliatory and only got worse over time [00:33] schestowitz__ I now disable IPFS about half the daya [00:34] schestowitz__ I guess the strategy is, make things painful enough, unless the person gives up on it completely [00:34] schestowitz__ turns out, they even charged me for the engineer visits or equipment they sent [00:34] schestowitz__ no evidence (yet) of refunds [00:36] psydroid I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with mobile computers (a.k.a. phones), but some of the hardware decisions are bad and the tight control over the software running on them is inherently malicious [00:36] schestowitz__ there are some problematic inherent thing about them [00:36] schestowitz__ because they always are "on" and "connected" [00:36] schestowitz__ to receive call [00:36] psydroid radios that can't be disabled [00:36] vZS1 There are projects out there working on liberating phones [00:36] schestowitz__ and you move around them [00:36] schestowitz__ AND [00:36] schestowitz__ they share the location data [00:37] schestowitz__ both carriers and OS vendors, app makers et. [00:37] schestowitz__ etc. [00:38] psydroid yes, so we need to free them by running only free software that we control on them [00:38] vZS1 Projects like GrapheneOS and F-Droid are a step in the right direction [00:39] vZS1 All my F-Droid programs are GPLV3 [00:39] psydroid not Android, Sailfish, iOS or some other software that is primarily meant for spying on people [00:40] vZS1 When I get the time I'm moving over to GrapheneOS to test it out [00:40] vZS1 It's basically de-Googling Android [00:40] _I3^RELATIVISM why not use unix in your device? [00:40] _I3^RELATIVISM mobian? [00:41] _I3^RELATIVISM pinephone [00:41] _I3^RELATIVISM vZS1: [00:41] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/BvawYiG.jpg [00:41] vZS1 Realistically, you need to support what everybody uses [00:41] vZS1 There's a reason GNU reimplemented UNIX [00:42] _I3^RELATIVISM nonsense [00:42] vZS1 Otherwise nobody would use GNU [00:42] _I3^RELATIVISM android is mostly POSIX complaint [00:42] _I3^RELATIVISM that argument doesnt hold [00:42] vZS1 It's the same for phones. You need to be able to support all the Android software people expect [00:43] _I3^RELATIVISM anbox [00:43] vZS1 You can believe what you want to (: [00:43] _I3^RELATIVISM for fringe [00:43] _I3^RELATIVISM is not about believe but logic [00:43] _I3^RELATIVISM you said otherwise noone use unix [00:43] _I3^RELATIVISM but that doesnt hold [00:44] _I3^RELATIVISM given android is kinda of POSIX complaint [00:44] _I3^RELATIVISM so in a way UNIX [00:44] _I3^RELATIVISM so I call nonsense [00:44] vZS1 I'm not going to argue further. [00:44] MinceR it would be better to have something that upholds the unix principles [00:44] _I3^RELATIVISM this is not a argumrnt [00:44] DaemonFC[m] It's looking like my spouse qualifies for a COVID shot in the next group, but I don't. [00:44] _I3^RELATIVISM if you can support you claims vZS1 [00:45] schestowitz__ MinceR: in explosm better link directly to the image [00:45] schestowitz__ MinceR: as the web pages are malicious [00:45] MinceR ok [00:45] _I3^RELATIVISM DaemonFC: astrazeneca vacine is pretty good [00:45] MinceR schestowitz__: in what way though? [00:45] _I3^RELATIVISM try to avoid moderna and biotech though [00:47] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/22/tech/amazon-nlrb-union-election/index.html [00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazon is pushing for a milestone union vote to take place in person despite the pandemic - CNN [00:47] DaemonFC[m] "A union election was held in 2014 at a Delaware warehouse, but resulted in workers largely rejecting the effort." [00:47] schestowitz__ XRevan86: is that a female he kicked? [00:47] DaemonFC[m] It's amazing that after the lawyers get done hinting that the entire facility might close does that. [00:48] schestowitz__ amazon is really harmful to the economy [00:48] _I3^RELATIVISM we need a revolution in how business is run [00:49] XRevan86 schestowitz__: yes [00:49] _I3^RELATIVISM concentration of power needs to be adressed [00:49] _I3^RELATIVISM https://libregit.org/GVRN/GVRNspec [00:49] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Well, Mandy and I are trapped in Illinois for now. Part of that is because an extra couple dollars an hour may not sound like much and is, in fact, entirely undone by the cost of living here vs. Indiana, but Immigration uses the same income standards throughout the country. [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libregit.org | GVRN/GVRNspec - GVRNspec - LibreGit [00:50] DaemonFC[m] So even though the cost of living in Indiana is half as much as it is in San Francisco, you'll have an easier time with Immigration if you lived in San Francisco even if your living standard is the same or less, because the job must pay more. [00:51] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [00:51] DaemonFC[m] If we had gotten Mandy the same job in Indiana, he would have made almost $3 an hour less and then our income wouldn't be enough. So, there's no difference in living standard, but it's easier to get past Immigration living here and working here. [00:53] schestowitz__ XRevan86: hopefully he is not a married man [00:53] DaemonFC[m] Slipping things through the system using paper and regulations and whatnot. It's not fun. In fact, it's just downright bizarre how it's possible for one of you to be bankrupt, then file a joint return with a tax rate of -1.3%, and then declare that you make almost $41,000 on immigration forms, and in all cases what you did was legally correct. [00:55] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: let's focus on tech, not personal tales [00:56] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I think it does explain how patent law works. It's like tax law, immigration law, bankruptcy law. It has baroque rules that almost invite creativity. [00:56] DaemonFC[m] And you can be entirely honest and pull off some real howlers. [00:57] techrights-bot Chocolate chip cookies https://explosm.net/comics/607/ [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [00:57] techrights-bot #KDE Plasma 5.21 Beta Launched Checkout Features & UI Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146715#comment-27950 [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.21 Desktop Enters Beta, Heres How to Test It Right Now | Tux Machines [00:57] DaemonFC[m] It benefits attorneys because a lay person has almost no chance of looking at the law and figuring out a strategy. [00:57] techrights-bot #KDE Saw Many Fixes + Improvements On Top Of Shipping Plasma 5.21 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146786#comment-27949 [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: the Plasma 5.20 beta is here! | Tux Machines [00:57] techrights-bot Stable Kernels: 5.10.10, 5.4.92, 4.19.170, 4.14.217, 4.9.253 , and 4.4.253 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146799 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.10, 5.4.92, 4.19.170, 4.14.217, 4.9.253 , and 4.4.253 | Tux Machines [00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:58] techrights-bot #MXLinux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146802 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] | Tux Machines [00:58] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [00:59] techrights-bot The State of #GNOME 40's Threaded Input http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146781#comment-27947 #gnu #linux #programming [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:59] techrights-bot #EasyOS 2.4.1 review http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146795 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Easy OS 2.4.1 review | Tux Machines [00:59] techrights-bot Best #mathematics packages for Linux in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146796 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best mathematics packages for Linux in 2021 | Tux Machines ● Jan 24 [01:00] techrights-bot $1 #PinePhone pogo pin breakout board lets you connect add-ons without removing the back cover http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146797 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | $1 PinePhone pogo pin breakout board lets you connect add-ons without removing the back cover | Tux Machines [01:00] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [01:01] techrights-bot "Sustainable governance model by the means of a cryptotoken economy, rewarding contributors for their commits." https://libregit.org/GVRN/GVRNspec [01:02] techrights-bot The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146798 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [01:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The 10 Best GNOME Based Linux Distributions To Check Out in 2021 | Tux Machines [01:02] techrights-bot The "Q" https://i.imgur.com/BvawYiG.jpg [01:04] vZS1 schestowitz__: my ipfs node is on indefinitely, so as long as I can pull the index and objects at some point, there will be a fall-back. [01:05] vZS1 I only take that node offline for major maintenance of the host. It doesn't happen often. [01:06] MinceR schestowitz__: in what way is the explosm.net website malicious? [01:06] techrights-bot Essential Utilities: Flash OS Images http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146800 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [01:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Essential Utilities: Flash OS Images | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146801 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [01:07] techrights-bot In #russia they get away with it https://vk.com/video-29534144_456261451 #police #womanKilling [01:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-???'s Videos | VK [01:08] techrights-bot Its time to reject #Google s #WWW #monopoly (shared with other companies but still an #oligopoly ); removing its Web browser would be a good start http://techrights.org/2021/01/23/removing-google/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Chromium and Chrome Are Not Free Software But an Example of Microsoft-Fashioned Openwashing Tactics | Techrights [01:08] techrights-bot The full document that #INTC paid for and in turn used to justify cracking down on #freesw (obliterating #Freesoftware -based workflows inside #Intel ) http://techrights.org/2021/01/23/harbor-research-finale/ [01:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | InteLeaks Part XXX: Harbor Researchs Pseudo-scientific Research for Intel, Bizarrely Suggesting a Microsoft Partnership for a Domain Largely Controlled or Dominated by Linux | Techrights [01:09] schestowitz__ MinceR: a third parry that spies via JS [01:09] schestowitz__ and popups [01:09] schestowitz__ you must consent to see page [01:09] schestowitz__ my guess is, you turned off JS and thus aren't aware [01:10] schestowitz__ many cartoons nowadays do it [01:10] MinceR i block a lot of things [01:10] schestowitz__ to watch some lousy image you have to run lots of dodgy programs. Same for articles (text) for that matter... [01:10] MinceR js from other domains is among them [01:10] schestowitz__ this is why we push towards text only... [01:11] schestowitz__ I don't need anything but text and maybe one image to know the news [01:11] schestowitz__ usually the images don't add much, like a mug of a perso [01:11] DaemonFC[m] Brave supports IPFS. Would be nice if they could get PC to Android phone sync working properly. [01:11] schestowitz__ such 'news' sites also harm the environment [01:12] schestowitz__ I just need kate and rss feeds to read news [01:12] DaemonFC[m] There's a question on the IRS 1040 this year about have you in 2020 received a controlling interest or ownership in any cryptocurrency. [01:12] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: yes, we have everything now as ipfs [01:12] schestowitz__ except videos [01:12] schestowitz__ although vZS1 says some people convert our videos too into ipfs objects [01:12] DaemonFC[m] I never gave Brave my Social Security number so I have no way of actually taking possession of those BATs or trading them for USD. [01:13] schestowitz__ apachelog says the server does about 10mb/sec because of videos [01:13] DaemonFC[m] Nor do they have any way to report me to the IRS for BATs. [01:13] schestowitz__ brave does some edgy things [01:13] schestowitz__ its target audience is that.. [01:14] DaemonFC[m] In my honest opinion, I have no controlling interest in the BATs and wouldn't owe taxes on them anyway since they were all doled out to an IRS registered non-profit charity. [01:14] DaemonFC[m] Either the Tor Project or Wikipedia. [01:14] vZS1 Using Brave wouldn't make much of a difference because we don't prefix IPFS CIDs with "ipfs://" [01:14] vZS1 You're better off using the CLI or desktop UI [01:15] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I think the question is due to the government becoming concerned that crypto is being used by "terrorists". [01:16] DaemonFC[m] Which translates to people aren't paying their taxes and it competes with the USD, therefore must be destroyed somehow. Yellen basically said as much and she'll be Treasury Secretary soon. [01:16] vZS1 Actually, they hate cash just as much [01:16] schestowitz__ Yes, the banks always control fiscal stuff [01:16] DaemonFC[m] They do. [01:16] schestowitz__ vZS1: some places no longer accept it [01:16] schestowitz__ even for plastic with water in it [01:16] DaemonFC[m] So I expect several things to happen soon, schestowitz__. [01:16] vZS1 Anything anonymous is for "terrorists" [01:17] schestowitz__ or for chewing gum [01:17] schestowitz__ they expect you to use a credit card or debt card with plastic with water [01:17] schestowitz__ *Debit [01:17] DaemonFC[m] 1. The Treasury will start sanctioning Crypto exchanges that do not comply with existing tax laws, including FATCA. [01:17] schestowitz__ the "Debt card" would be "credit" card [01:17] vZS1 I can still pay with cash on the bus [01:17] DaemonFC[m] 2. The IRS will start to move towards auditing people who say "Yes.". [01:17] schestowitz__ vZS1: so you are not in London [01:18] vZS1 Nope. I'd rather not live in 1984 [01:18] DaemonFC[m] 3. Congress may even make it a crime for Americans to possess it. Why not? The government made it illegal to own significant quantities of gold for over 30 years, and gold was much bigger than crypto. [01:19] DaemonFC[m] All of these actions will make it undesirable because it will lose one of the biggest markets where it can legally operate. [01:19] vZS1 They announce to pay with card but most people ignore it here [01:19] techrights-bot FOSS Projects Live Off Community Support https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhIQ1638cOU #freesw #sharing [01:19] DaemonFC[m] Therefore, the value will plummet and MARISOL will have some worthless beans. [01:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSS Projects Live Off Community Support - YouTube [01:20] DaemonFC[m] The UK is talking of a crackdown and warning people they could "lose everything" with crypto too. [01:20] DaemonFC[m] So expect most countries to start coming down hard and cooperating with investigations into each other's citizens. [01:20] techrights-bot Use #libreoffice instead; nothing it cannot do that is widely done in 2021. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH5JYshhtYg [01:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Running MS OFFICE on Linux - Is it enough to justify paying for Wine? - YouTube [01:20] vZS1 The USD is the currency of terrorism [01:20] DaemonFC[m] People are losing confidence in fiat currency that central banks can inflate at will. [01:21] vZS1 In several ways [01:21] DaemonFC[m] They have to stem this and the reason they're reacting so late in the game is because a lot of things go unregulated for years before the government fully appreciates that it should have stopped it ages ago. [01:21] vZS1 I never understood how you just print money at will [01:22] DaemonFC[m] There's no printing. You just say it exists. [01:22] DaemonFC[m] Then it does. Magic! [01:22] techrights-bot Can we please stop helping #microsoft fake and manufacture the narrative about its competition? Many people and projects do not use #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly #github https://dwaves.de/2021/01/24/2021-01-russian-it-security-updates-cybercrime-as-a-service-csaas/ #deletegithub [01:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- 2021-01 Russian IT Security Updates cybercrime-as-a-service (CSaaS) | dwaves.de [01:22] vZS1 But this is not my domain so I'm ignorant [01:22] vZS1 (not sarcasm) [01:22] DaemonFC[m] Less than 2% of the USD that the banking system claims are in circulation exist as cash. [01:22] DaemonFC[m] When the Coronavirus pandemic was new there was a cash shortage at the banks. [01:23] DaemonFC[m] They started giving me $20s and $10s because they were out of $50s and $100s. [01:23] DaemonFC[m] People panicked and made a run on the banks and there wasn't enough cash there to handle a very small bank run from maybe the 3-5% of the public that suddenly wanted to have more cash on hand. [01:24] DaemonFC[m] vZS1: One option with the tax return is to buy a Savings Bond. It's the one way the Treasury still issues them on paper, I guess. [01:25] vZS1 Isn't that the assumption banks operate on? (People won't panic-withdraw) [01:25] DaemonFC[m] But Savings Bonds are pointless because the interest rate is shit. Then when you go cash them you have to fill out more tax forms because it earned like $5 over 10 years. [01:26] techrights-bot #Boeing 737 MAX is a reminder of the REAL problem with #proprietarysoftware | Stop at Zona-M https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/boeing-737-max-is-a-reminder-of-the-real-problem-with-software/ [01:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Boeing 737 MAX is a reminder of the REAL problem with software | Stop at Zona-M [01:26] DaemonFC[m] It is, and we're not even operating on fractional reserve anymore. Part of the "reforms" to try to make credit easier to obtain during the emergency effectively has us on zero reserve banking now. [01:26] DaemonFC[m] So if banks have any reserves, it's not really something they're encouraging. They look to monetize the customers in other ways by signing them up for loans and eating them alive with fees. [01:27] DaemonFC[m] They only need to have enough to pass their Fed stress test, so it's not the actual amount they need to survive their actual risk all going bad at once. [01:27] DaemonFC[m] It's very close to zero in terms of the loans and the risks they took on those loans looking for potential profits. [01:28] vZS1 Let's hope they don't get bailed out again like they did in 2008. [01:28] DaemonFC[m] Wells Fargo was worse than most banks are "before it was cool". [01:28] DaemonFC[m] I'd come in to cash my paycheck in the early 2000s and they were constantly trying to see if I wanted a home, car, or credit card loan. [01:29] DaemonFC[m] "We do student loans too, you know!" [01:30] DaemonFC[m] Credit scores are so easy to manipulate that mine's considered decent again just months after having a mountain of debt written off by a court. [01:30] DaemonFC[m] We've all fucking forgotten what I did 5 months ago, just about. [01:31] DaemonFC[m] That's how our system is. And people trade tips on how to game the credit scores, on the forums from the credit scoring companies. [01:31] vZS1 Everybody needs a hobby [01:31] DaemonFC[m] I've had lower scores than this before just because I had no loans at all. [01:31] DaemonFC[m] It's worse to not have any loans (for the score) than to have a bankruptcy. [01:32] DaemonFC[m] People talk about bankruptcy being a nuclear bomb for your credit score, but you can game it back up higher than someone with no bankruptcy who just doesn't use credit cards in a few months. [01:34] DaemonFC[m] They like to talk about how bankruptcy will make it impossible to get a mortgage for "2 years for most people", but all of my scores are high enough that I could get a mortgage right now. Wouldn't be the best mortgage ever, but I could get one, if I had enough underlying income. [01:34] DaemonFC[m] The pressure is not to reduce risk so much as it is to have as many open accounts as possible. [01:38] vZS1 Re: war on crypto currency. The Times outright mock it every chance they get. [01:38] vZS1 They must really hate it [01:39] vZS1 They = their owners [01:42] DaemonFC[m] John worked with a guy at the TSA who heats his apartment in the winter mining bitcoins. [01:47] techrights-bot [Older] #F2FS With #Linux 5.12 To Allow Configuring Compression Level https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=F2FS-Compression-Level-Next [01:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-F2FS With Linux 5.12 To Allow Configuring Compression Level - Phoronix [01:49] techrights-bot #Linux 5.12 To Allow Voltage/Temperature Reporting On Some #ASRock Motherboards - Phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.12-ASRock-Some-Sensors #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [01:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.12 To Allow Voltage/Temperature Reporting On Some ASRock Motherboards - Phoronix [01:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [01:54] techrights-bot #GhostBSD 21.01.20 release note http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146803 #BSD #UNIX #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [01:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GhostBSD 21.01.20 release note | Tux Machines [01:54] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:59] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:56d9:b4ab:9574:64f3) has joined #techrights ● Jan 24 [02:00] techrights-bot When #healthcare is reduced to a single number | Stop at Zona-M https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/when-healthcare-is-reduced-to-a-single-number/ "I had a telehealth doctors visit the other day. " [02:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | When healthcare is reduced to a single number | Stop at Zona-M [02:01] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [02:04] techrights-bot #BT #throttling of our connection is getting a lot worse and more severe over time. They refuse to tackle the problem. They just lack the capacity. Overwhelmed as they didn't invest in expanding. 1) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/06/coronavirus-bt/ 2) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/01/09/bt-is-down/ [02:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Coronavirus May Have Caused a Nationwide or Regional Congestion Crisis for BT [02:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive British Telecom Cannot Blame Coronavirus For Its Awful Customer Care and Various Face-Saving Lies Disguised as Support [02:05] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146804 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [02:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [02:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 31.85 swarm size (avg): 210.14 [02:11] techrights-bot #KDE Goals a year lost, a year gained http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146805 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [02:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Goals a year lost, a year gained | Tux Machines [02:12] techrights-bot #diffoscope 165 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-165-released/ #ReproducibleBuilds #security [02:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 165 released [02:14] techrights-bot "This release brings several smaller tweaks and improvements to the summary report that had accumulated in my use since the last release last April." http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2021/01/23#prrd_0.0.4 [02:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dirk.eddelbuettel.com | Thinking inside the box [02:16] techrights-bot #deletegithub https://vrurg.github.io/2021/01/22/Cro-RPC-JSON-Release don't make #rakulang dependent on censorious #proprietarySoftware #monopoly of #microsoft [02:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vrurg.github.io | A New Release Of Cro::RPC::JSON - LFlat, The Home of Vrurg [02:18] techrights-bot Also #deletegithub https://blog.beuc.net/posts/Android_Emulator_Rebuild/ we cannot liberate #android from #google by outsourcing to oppressive #proprietarySoftware prison of #microsoft [02:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.beuc.net | Android Emulator Rebuild [02:19] techrights-bot "Due to the need to maintain physical distance in 2020, I created an online gift exchange for them to use during a book club videoconference." https://opensource.com/article/21/1/open-source-gift-exchange [02:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How I programmed a virtual gift exchange | Opensource.com [02:21] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [02:21] techrights-bot "I personally learned when becoming general manager of the newly established IBM Internet Division in December of 1995" https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/01/the-surprising-power-of-business-experimentation.html [02:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Surprising Power of Business Experimentation [02:22] techrights-bot Good News! You Can Start Using #MXLinux on #RaspberryPi [In Beta] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146802#comment-27953 #gnu #linux [02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MX Linux is Now Available for Raspberry Pi [Download and Install Guide] | Tux Machines [02:23] techrights-bot I have seen the laptop of the future | Stop at Zona-M https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/i-have-seen-the-laptop-of-the-future/ #sbc breakthrough are hugely beneficial to #gnu #linux and #openhardware [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | I have seen the laptop of the future | Stop at Zona-M [02:24] techrights-bot Oh. No, those won't run #microsoft #windows and don't need #intel to approve #patent licensing... https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/23/devebox-stm32h7-development-boards-are-made-for-factory-automation/ [02:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | DevEBox STM32H7 Development Boards are made for Factory Automation [02:25] techrights-bot "Teams are systems too. Delays in operations that teams need to perform regularly are significant to their effectiveness. We should know what they are." https://benjiweber.co.uk/blog/2021/01/23/latency-numbers-every-team-should-know/ [02:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-benjiweber.co.uk | Latency Numbers Every Team Should Know - Benji's Blog | Benji's Blog - [02:26] techrights-bot #ProprietarySoftware #CRACKED again https://dwaves.de/2021/01/23/sonicwall-hardware-vpns-hit-by-worst-case-0-zero-day-exploit-attacks/ #SonicWall [02:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- SonicWall hardware VPNs hit by worst-case 0-zero-day-exploit attacks | dwaves.de [02:37] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [02:44] techrights-bot #RasPi is fantastic to have for #programming exercises, especially with a suitable HAT that can accomplish all sorts of useful and practical things. We programmed an #ipfs monitor with it, showing all sorts of things inc. alerts. [02:44] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. 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[02:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, January 23, 2021 [02:50] techrights-bot #Biden #Bloomberg : when your political 'rival' ends up funding your campaign to the tune of 0.1 BILLION dollars you're not going to regulate and tax the super-rich, are you? http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ cheaper to bribe than to pay tax [02:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [02:53] techrights-bot #techrights presence and reach in #ipfs continues to grow as more nodes pin the articles and bulletins. Hopefully WWW/HTML/HTML can be deprecated one day. They've been destroyed/hijacked by monopolies at all levels. [02:54] techrights-bot #ibm is ruining what was once known as #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/red-hat [02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Layoffs - TheLayoff.com [02:55] MinceR i thought it was ruined before ibm bought it [02:55] schestowitz__ I did not claim it was benign to begin with [02:56] schestowitz__ MinceR: see http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ [02:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Freedom is Not Linux | Techrights [02:57] techrights-bot We would all probably be better-off if they simply folded their tent and let the GNU organization get on with the real movement. http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/thomas-grzybowski-on-freesw/ [02:59] techrights-bot For a moment #Cheltenham thought it had cracked it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huteB2gvuew [02:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cheltenham Town vs Manchester City (1-3) | Nine minutes from huge upset | Emirates FA Cup Highlights - YouTube ● Jan 24 [03:00] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 233 MB TotalOut: 283 MB [03:00] techrights-ipfs New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: [03:02] schestowitz__ hm... did that fail? [03:05] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:07] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:56d9:b4ab:9574:64f3) has joined #techrights [03:08] schestowitz__ seems like bulletin failed to generated automatically [03:08] schestowitz__ *be generated [03:09] schestowitz__ Oh, I see :-) [03:09] schestowitz__ too many images [03:09] schestowitz__ didn't finish generating them before the rsync [03:09] schestowitz__ need to change the script to give more time for images [03:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 34.28 swarm size (avg): 212.03 [03:11] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-23.txt [03:16] schestowitz__ it took over 20 mins to generate Braille version of the leaks/images [03:16] schestowitz__ I guess an exceptional scenario, no need to space up the cron jobs for now [03:16] schestowitz__ rerunning the job now [03:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 254 MB TotalOut: 309 MB [03:17] techrights-ipfs New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: [03:17] techrights-ipfs QmdEp9s38sSgwz9MZrpXMHub3kDtSSgHf69MJzMq89iF4R [03:20] techrights-bot Later this year #techrights turns 15. Lockdowns likely to last that long though. http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Techrights-Birthday-14-Years/20200915_070218 [03:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20200915 070218 [03:21] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:22] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:56d9:b4ab:9574:64f3) has joined #techrights [03:25] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:25] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz, the radio was talking about IBM as an investment not looking good. It said they struggled to get cash strapped organizations to "abandon legacy systems" and use "the cloud". [03:25] DaemonFC[m] People should be looking for ways to resist, especially when it's not a major workload and they can handle it themselves with a laptop a some thumb drives. [03:27] DaemonFC[m] Cloud document editing is another bubble. Right now, people are doing it, but Microsoft keeps proving that they can't make reliability guarantees and so anything you store there could be inaccessible not just randomly but for days at a time if you don't have a local copy and a program that can load the file. [03:27] DaemonFC[m] So why the fuck even use it? [03:29] schestowitz__ exactly [03:29] schestowitz__ hype, lies [03:29] schestowitz__ OK, DaemonFC[m], let's put it this way [03:29] schestowitz__ the year is 1980 [03:29] schestowitz__ you have an IBM mainframe [03:29] schestowitz__ your staff logs in [03:29] schestowitz__ edits a document [03:30] schestowitz__ like a spreadsheet [03:30] schestowitz__ exits [03:30] schestowitz__ another logs in, edits some more [03:30] schestowitz__ it's the "clown" editor [03:30] schestowitz__ multiple users edit a spreadsheer [03:30] schestowitz__ 1985 comes by [03:30] schestowitz__ you get your staff a PC for the disk [03:30] schestowitz__ *desk [03:30] schestowitz__ with a disk (storage) [03:30] schestowitz__ they all get copies of that spreadsheet [03:30] schestowitz__ then edit it [03:31] schestowitz__ 1995: the staff gets a laptop [03:31] schestowitz__ can take the spreadsheet to the train... the home... the airport [03:31] schestowitz__ no wifi yet [03:31] schestowitz__ so you got OUT of the "clown" (mainframe) [03:31] schestowitz__ not people can work from outside the clown [03:32] schestowitz__ but in 2020 apparently it's hip to go back to 1980 [03:32] schestowitz__ let's put all our stuff in some central computer we DO NOT EVEN OWN [03:32] schestowitz__ That's "PROGRESS!" [03:33] schestowitz__ I still need a soldering gun from friend, then >>solder and set up raspi<<, maybe one day a backup raspi... [03:33] schestowitz__ this lockdown is awful [03:33] schestowitz__ I spoke to friends of ours last night [03:33] schestowitz__ they call it "home arrest" [03:33] cybrNaut what's so fucking bizarre about corps using the cloud for docs: trade secrets. It's actually the corporations that keep crypto alive to protect business secrets, and it's a rare phenomenon where natural ppl benefit (we get to encrypt things too). Then corps go and do something stupid like put their docs in the cloud [03:34] schestowitz__ she (the partner of my friend) is a socialite, so it's hell for her [03:34] schestowitz__ cybrNaut: they also put client records there [03:34] schestowitz__ imagine you're an Assange lawyer [03:34] schestowitz__ and your firm (upstream) [03:34] schestowitz__ backs up the staff to AWS overnight [03:34] schestowitz__ or worse, does all document editing on US "clown" [03:35] schestowitz__ US government can see all your docs and legal strategy/plan [03:35] schestowitz__ that's in breach of client privilege [03:35] schestowitz__ in the past I complained about them not using encrypting when mailing or emailing things [03:35] schestowitz__ never mind the NSA/GCHQ back doors on PCs they used [03:36] schestowitz__ now it's worse as they almost literally hand over the files/docs themselves on a silver platter to spy colluders [03:36] cybrNaut indeed, and lawyers tend to be low-tech. I had a lawyer who refused to use encryption.. I was so disgusted [03:36] schestowitz__ tell them they breach the law [03:36] schestowitz__ "privilege" [03:36] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m] has a spouse looking to settle in the US [03:37] schestowitz__ and all their info floats about on "clowns" [03:37] schestowitz__ big advantage for those looking for a pretext to reject applications [03:37] schestowitz__ as those docs often point out potential threats, weaknesses, grounds for disqualification [03:37] cybrNaut lawyers believe in the legal protections offered by atty-client priv, so they don't think they need technological protection.. it's a case of too must trust in their own industry [03:38] schestowitz__ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2014/07/15/encryption/ [03:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Lawyers Who Dont Use Encryption When Suing Government Entities With Access to Intercepted Material (Mass Surveillance) [03:38] schestowitz__ in the past they kept physical failed [03:38] schestowitz__ *filed [03:38] schestowitz__ so raids were the threat [03:38] schestowitz__ they would periodically shred files of old cases, based on the law [03:38] schestowitz__ Assange lawyers in Spain had his office raided [03:39] schestowitz__ *lawyer [03:39] schestowitz__ Balz* something [03:39] schestowitz__ raiding is a lot more crude and violent [03:39] schestowitz__ and causes backlash [03:39] schestowitz__ unlike sending a letter secretly to amazon to get access to some file or account [03:39] schestowitz__ Groklaw wrote about AWS T&Cs that allow such stuff [03:39] schestowitz__ it was run by an old paralegal [03:40] cybrNaut it may not be a problem in the future. I heard encrytion has recently become part of the law cirriculum [03:44] schestowitz__ well.. we'll see [03:44] schestowitz__ the media promotes 'fake' encryption [03:44] schestowitz__ that is, encryption between ends that aren't as intended [03:44] schestowitz__ so you share with X+gov [03:45] schestowitz__ or X+companies+gov [03:45] schestowitz__ never just Y->X->Y [03:45] schestowitz__ that's now e2ee [03:45] cybrNaut that article reminds me of a Florida case where the defense lawyers used a local print shop to copy docs. The prosecuter had a way of seeing the docs they were copying and it all got discovered [03:45] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/27/encrypt-with-e2ee-in-depth-article/ [03:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guarding Your Privacy With E2EE: Primer | Techrights [03:46] schestowitz__ Groklaw is back online BTW http://groklaw.net/ [03:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklaw.net | Groklaw - Digging for Truth [03:46] schestowitz__ as of about a week or two ago [03:46] schestowitz__ was down for over 2 months [03:47] cybrNaut groklaw.net is down for me [03:48] DaemonFC[m] I talk about sensitive things in person with the attorney in the room. [03:48] DaemonFC[m] Not over emails. [03:48] DaemonFC[m] That goes for any area of the law. [03:48] DaemonFC[m] Government reads emails and they would maybe get a heads up over what's going on in your case. Not smart. [03:48] schestowitz__ psydroid: intel has been cracked [03:49] DaemonFC[m] Maybe they get a warrant for the emails as part of your case and then what do you do? [03:49] schestowitz__ yup [03:49] schestowitz__ face to face better [03:49] DaemonFC[m] You're on there talking to the lawyer about your legal strategies, what happened and how you'll spin it in court. [03:49] schestowitz__ and paper notes [03:49] cybrNaut DaemonFC[m]: sometimes you have to send a doc. choices are: fax, personal delivery, mail, .. and lawyers today can't handle crypto [03:50] schestowitz__ face to face [03:50] schestowitz__ like you give them a passport or bills [03:50] schestowitz__ common across many areas of operation [03:51] cybrNaut fax is still considered "secure" by the law & medical professions, even though it usually goes through email at one end or both ends [03:51] schestowitz__ fax is as secure as a phone conversation [03:51] schestowitz__ though I never saw documents about spy agencies intercepting fax transmissions [03:52] schestowitz__ thankfully ipfs is all encrypted, same for ssh [03:52] schestowitz__ so much of the essential work we do goes through secure channels [03:52] schestowitz__ except emails without pgp [03:52] schestowitz__ protonmail uses pg [03:52] schestowitz__ pgp [03:52] schestowitz__ but... [03:53] schestowitz__ I think the company keeps the private keys of its users (I did not check) [03:54] cybrNaut yeah, protonmail keeps the pvt keys, but the keys themselves are encrypted.. so, as long as you can trust the javascript not to send your p/w back, you're fine [03:54] cybrNaut Targeted ppl should worry about that possibility.. normies, not so much [03:56] cybrNaut ElectronMail adds a shred of confidence to Protonmail, b/c you don't blindly use whatever javascript the server sends [03:56] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, like Washington Post mentioning WhatsApp. Oh my god.... [03:57] schestowitz__ lol [03:57] DaemonFC[m] Anyone who leaks classified documents over WhatsApp (Facebook) is gonna be having a bad day in court. [03:57] cybrNaut with ElectronMail you have to trust those working on that github-hosted FOSS project, [03:57] schestowitz__ 'FOSS' [03:57] schestowitz__ managed by proprietary [03:57] schestowitz__ hosted on Microsoft servers (NSA PRISM) [03:58] schestowitz__ subjected to takedown by the cartel of Hollywood [03:58] schestowitz__ without due process [03:58] schestowitz__ like Signal :-) [03:58] schestowitz__ and IPFS :( [03:58] DaemonFC[m] This version of Windows 10 is one of the SKUs that lets you turn Telemetry down to Security-only. [03:58] DaemonFC[m] On most of them, it treats 0 as if it was "Basic Telemetry" or setting 1. [03:59] DaemonFC[m] Security-only is the lowest any SKU officially lets you set it, and it's apparently "If Windows Defender needs to gather cloud intelligence about potential malware." and "Whether Windows is installing updates correctly.". ● Jan 24 [04:00] DaemonFC[m] Anyone who is using an Insider Build is stuck at Full Telemetry no matter what they set it at. [04:01] cybrNaut ElectronMail is still safer than straight web access to protonmail, b/c protonmail can be forced to send malicious j/s to you specifically when you connect. But you can anonmously grab a copy of ElectronMail, so they would have to compromise everyone or no one. [04:02] cybrNaut one could inspect the ElectronMail code themself, and then not upgrade. But with web access, you'd have to inspect that j/s everytime you connect [04:04] schestowitz__ Who is behind ElectronMail? [04:04] schestowitz__ It that a service or software? [04:05] schestowitz__ when dealing with what you call "web access" you deal with a web browser [04:05] cybrNaut it's software from a 3rd party not associated to Protonmail [04:05] schestowitz__ and I don't think too highly of browsers most people use [04:05] schestowitz__ if the address bar is a keylogger [04:05] cybrNaut https://github.com/vladimiry/ElectronMail [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - vladimiry/ElectronMail: Unofficial ProtonMail Desktop App [04:05] schestowitz__ and if they send your passwords to the "clown" [04:06] schestowitz__ then who knows what else they do... [04:06] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, January 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:06] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.35 swarm size (avg): 213.66 [04:11] cybrNaut btw, advanced users need not have a protonmail acct to talk to PM users. So I sometimes convince novices to create an acct there, and I use my own MUA and pgp key to correspond with them. That's what I like about PM. tutanota can't support that [04:13] schestowitz__ I dread what people use for document drops [04:13] schestowitz__ like... [04:13] schestowitz__ not tor [04:13] schestowitz__ even if you use https and an open wifi connection [04:13] schestowitz__ somewhere public [04:13] schestowitz__ the browser itself is not trustworthy [04:13] schestowitz__ the state has made it really hard to become truly anonymous [04:14] schestowitz__ bt had us accept some shitty new 'smart' hub [04:14] schestowitz__ and it no longer even allows open wifi [04:14] DaemonFC[m] securedrop is what The Washington Post recommends. [04:14] DaemonFC[m] Probably ran by the CIA or NSA. [04:14] schestowitz__ they remotely see who connects to it and read it out to me over the phone [04:14] schestowitz__ WaPo=bezos=cia contracts [04:14] schestowitz__ When Manning came to WaPo they spurned her [04:15] schestowitz__ War crimes? Corruption? NOT INTERESTED. [04:15] schestowitz__ "Wait, is it about TRUMP? SEND IT!" [04:16] schestowitz__ leaks over email or www are risky [04:16] schestowitz__ because of the mail and browser 'clients' [04:16] schestowitz__ suppose you have ipfs set up [04:16] schestowitz__ and then you add some CID [04:16] schestowitz__ then all you need to leak is that CID [04:17] schestowitz__ not sure if its origins can be traced back and who by [04:17] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:17] schestowitz__ it propagates https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmdEp9s38sSgwz9MZrpXMHub3kDtSSgHf69MJzMq89iF4R [04:18] schestowitz__ I've just turned off ipfs here [04:18] schestowitz__ and this is still online [04:18] schestowitz__ the riddle is, how to add a CID/object anonymously [04:19] schestowitz__ 2019: https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/issues/6430 [04:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anonymous IPFS Issue #6430 ipfs/go-ipfs GitHub [04:20] DaemonFC[m] The Washington Post doesn't even suggest using Tor, I noticed. [04:20] DaemonFC[m] Doesn't have a Tor drop box. [04:20] schestowitz__ https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/6ukurz/ipfs_and_illegal_content/ [04:20] schestowitz__ '" [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | IPFS and illegal content : ipfs [04:20] schestowitz__ If I understood correct - you can't delete or block file in a ipfs, so it makes it the perfect replacement for torrent network. Right? [04:20] schestowitz__ So why there is still no ipfs trackers of hashes and no one is yelling "Block it for a God sake, block it, we losing money, noooooo!"? [04:20] schestowitz__ " [04:21] schestowitz__ https://flyingzumwalt.gitbooks.io/decentralized-web-primer/content/avenues-for-access/lessons/tor-transport.html [04:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flyingzumwalt.gitbooks.io | Lesson: Run IPFS over Tor transport (experimental) Decentralized Web Primer [04:21] DaemonFC[m] Well, the more they tighten their grip, the more "restricted content" will slip through their fingers. Making inferior courts for copyright is just going to scare the fuck out of everyone and it's the best advertisement for a VPN to date. [04:22] schestowitz__ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12719771 [04:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | IPFS is not an anonymity network. | Hacker News [04:22] schestowitz__ "In fact, IPFS via the DHT, tells the network of your whole network topology, including internal address you may have, and VPN endpoints too." [04:22] schestowitz__ tl;dr: [04:22] schestowitz__ no real anonymity in ipfs [04:22] schestowitz__ wrong tool for that job [04:22] schestowitz__ just censorship resistance and load-balancing [04:23] schestowitz__ better idea [04:23] schestowitz__ advertise postal address [04:23] schestowitz__ send usb drives to it [04:23] schestowitz__ downsides: the state can then flag you as receiving leaks [04:23] DaemonFC[m] It really seems more like Gnutella in concept. [04:23] schestowitz__ and then open things in transit [04:23] schestowitz__ usb drives can have stuff added to them offline [04:23] DaemonFC[m] In the end, all sorts of illegal things ended up on Gnutella and the feds were raiding people and the copyright lawsuits flew. [04:24] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: yes, it is like p2p [04:24] schestowitz__ but a bit better [04:24] DaemonFC[m] Then, in a way IPFS probably doesn't relate, the hash collisions that allowed people to slip you corrupt files to aggravate you and make you give up trying to use Gnutella. [04:25] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: my ISP seems to throttle is really badly [04:25] schestowitz__ and worse over time [04:25] schestowitz__ even though total bandwidth is small [04:25] schestowitz__ seems retaliatory [04:25] DaemonFC[m] Now they're using indecency laws to strip amateur porn off the internet. [04:26] DaemonFC[m] It's too risky to end up hosting 1 bad file among a million others, so they're getting rid of it. I guess it served its purpose. It got a whole lot of people using a few sites that paid people click pennies to upload their bedroom videos. [04:26] DaemonFC[m] You notice that the credit card companies cut off the revenue a couple months before Facebook and Twitter started making political crackdowns? [04:27] DaemonFC[m] Not illegal content either. Just they don't want people making non-mainstream political comments. [04:28] DaemonFC[m] Now Facebook and Twitter are removing progressive politics. Deplatforming the whole damned thing. It's not going to work out well for them. People will discover the fediverse and give up trying to use the Corporate Shithole Social Media. [04:29] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: It's all related. The porn, the politics.... The purges. It's all designed to turn the web into a sanitized corporate cesspit plus government spooks. [04:29] *cybrNaut got kicked off Twitter for warning ppl about the harms of CloudFlare [04:29] DaemonFC[m] Really? [04:29] schestowitz__ wow [04:30] schestowitz__ latest https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/01/23/pers-j23.html [04:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Facebook purges left-wing pages and individuals - World Socialist Web Site [04:31] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: The USCIS is cracking down on people who admit they've ever been a Communist. [04:31] cybrNaut I can only guess.. it was my main activity. It wasn't a strict boot, but rather "we think you're a robot.. tell us your mobile ph# to continue". Without the will to go through that red tape, it was in effect like getting kicked off [04:32] DaemonFC[m] You can't be admitted into the US as a permanent resident if you've been associated with a Communist party. I was joking with the lawyer. "Communist Party? Really....?". [04:32] MinceR they prefer national socialists [04:33] schestowitz__ https://epicyon.freedombone.net/@bob/105605793565967273 [04:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://epicyon.freedombone.net/@bob/105605793565967273 ) [04:33] DaemonFC[m] I told Mandy that if they ask him if he's been a member of any "organizations" to just say no. [04:33] schestowitz__ MPA [04:33] schestowitz__ NPA I mean [04:34] DaemonFC[m] Up through the 80s, being gay made you inadmissable. [04:34] DaemonFC[m] And a National Security Threat. [04:34] DaemonFC[m] It was based on the concept that being gay is a mental illness and we don't need more crazy people here. [04:35] cybrNaut https://web.archive.org/web/20201222195411/https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/1/249457-does-facebook-use-sensitive-data-for-advertising-purposes/fulltext [04:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Does Facebook Use Sensitive Data for Advertising Purposes? | January 2021 | Communications of the ACM [04:35] cybrNaut ^Facebook is tracking who is gay [04:35] cybrNaut and there are 12 countries that have the death penalty for being gay [04:36] cybrNaut hopefully FB doesn't rat any of them out [04:37] DaemonFC[m] https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/01/23/pand-j23.html [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsws.org | Biden claims there is nothing we can do to halt mass death from coronavirus - World Socialist Web Site [04:38] DaemonFC[m] The Chicago Teachers Union is threatening to strike unless the state of Illinois can get them all vaccinated. [04:38] schestowitz__ Weve Let the Worst Happen: Reflecting on 400,000 Dead https://www.propublica.org/article/weve-let-the-worst-happen-reflecting-on-400-000-dead the survivors will have their lives massively shortened, too [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Weve Let the Worst Happen: Reflecting on 400,000 Dead ProPublica [04:38] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: what vaccinated? [04:38] DaemonFC[m] It can't and it won't even tell them what a reasonable timeline is even though we're "supposedly almost finished with Phase 1a.". [04:38] schestowitz__ which vaccine? [04:38] schestowitz__ the experiments? [04:38] DaemonFC[m] But Phase 1b is going to be the big problem. [04:39] DaemonFC[m] The 1b group is about a dozen times bigger than the 1a group, which took over a month. [04:39] DaemonFC[m] Even if we can double the number of people getting vaccinated going forward, it would take 6 months to get through 1b. No less. [04:40] DaemonFC[m] So it'll be July or so assuming no hiccups, before anyone under 65 who is not a "frontline worker" (part of 1b) can get a vaccine. [04:40] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: The Biden Administration is using the Defense Production Act to require more production of those syringes that can extract more doses from a vial. [04:41] DaemonFC[m] But even if we get as many of those as we need, that only improves the number of doses we can get by 20% of the number of vials being produced vs. the 5 doses they were supposed to contain. [04:42] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: The best way to ration would be to have given it to healthcare workers, but not nursing home residents, and "essential workers" in phase 1a. [04:43] DaemonFC[m] Those nursing home residents aren't contributing to spread, they're getting it because the staff is bringing it in with them. [04:43] DaemonFC[m] You should shut down the vectoring through the staff and then you free up millions of doses for people who have to go to work and deal with the public. [04:44] DaemonFC[m] And part of the reason we're done with 1a so early isn't because we've achieved 100% vaccination. We've gotten maybe 70% of nursing home residents and half the staff members to take the vaccine voluntarily. [04:44] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams Opinion | The Scale of Loss: 400,000 Dead https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/23/scale-loss-400000-dead [04:44] DaemonFC[m] So we're calling it good and moving on, even though this won't stop the nursing home crisis. [04:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Scale of Loss: 400,000 Dead [04:45] DaemonFC[m] Face masks don't seem to be slowing the spread as much as I had hoped. [04:45] DaemonFC[m] They seem to be far more effective against the flu than with the coronavirus. [04:46] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #MPA Seeks Network Engineer to Help Expose Online Pirates https://torrentfreak.com/mpa-seeks-network-engineer-to-help-expose-online-pirates-210123/ [04:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MPA Seeks Network Engineer to Help Expose Online Pirates * TorrentFreak [04:46] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #CopyrightTrolls Anti-Piracy Group: #CopyrightTrolling is a "Stain On The Fight Against Illegal Content" https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-copyright-trolling-a-stain-on-the-fight-against-illegal-content-210123/ [04:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Group: Copyright Trolling is a "Stain On The Fight Against Illegal Content" * TorrentFreak [04:47] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: so assuming you need to buy food, how to avoid it? [04:47] schestowitz__ quieter times at the shops? [04:47] DaemonFC[m] No, it's as busy at Walmart as ever. [04:48] schestowitz__ the cases here grew a lot, I can now assume well over 10% have had it or still have it [04:48] DaemonFC[m] The state is cracking down on indoor dining even though that's hardly a problem. [04:48] schestowitz__ so don't go to walmart [04:48] DaemonFC[m] The virus will spread through whatever is open. [04:48] schestowitz__ some small locals stores which barely survive can be quiet some days and times [04:48] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: That's why I'm trying to get Mandy to take the vaccine. [04:48] DaemonFC[m] I'll get it whenever they let me. [04:48] schestowitz__ what vaccine? [04:48] schestowitz__ the clinical trials? [04:48] DaemonFC[m] Whichever one they have. [04:49] schestowitz__ sputnik? [04:49] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: COVID has been inching closer and we've been lucky to have avoided it this long. [04:49] schestowitz__ the results on those experiments are due in summer [04:49] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: maybe you already had it [04:49] schestowitz__ without symptoms [04:49] schestowitz__ and antibodies tests aren't so reliable [04:49] schestowitz__ esp. if you had it a year ago [04:50] techrights-bot NEWS #TruthOut #Chicago Teachers Are Voting on Whether to Defy City's Divisive Reopening Plans https://truthout.org/articles/chicago-teachers-are-voting-on-whether-to-defy-citys-divisive-reopening-plans/ [04:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Chicago Teachers Are Voting on Whether to Defy City's Divisive Reopening Plans [04:51] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: https://www.mintpressnews.com/teachers-unions-berated-trump-for-reopening-schools-now-theyre-praising-biden-for-doing-the-same/274667/ [04:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Teachers Union Berated Trump for Reopening Schools, Now It's Praising Biden For Doing the Same [04:58] techrights-bot Cameron Kaiser: #TenFourFox FPR30 SPR1 available http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/01/tenfourfox-fpr30-spr1-available.html #mozilla #deletegithub #apple [04:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: TenFourFox FPR30 SPR1 available ● Jan 24 [05:00] techrights-bot #SeaMonkey on #Pi4 no longer freezes https://bkhome.org/news/202101/seamonkey-on-pi4-no-longer-freezes.html #gnu #linux [05:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | SeaMonkey on Pi4 no longer freezes [05:03] techrights-bot Nouveau X.Org Driver Sees First Release In Two Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146806 [05:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Nouveau X.Org Driver Sees First Release In Two Years | Tux Machines [05:03] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I wouldn't link to some of those websites. I'm concerned about the optics at this point. [05:03] techrights-bot #Nouveau #XOrg Driver Sees First Release In Two Years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146806 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [05:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [05:04] DaemonFC[m] Seems if Congress is going to keep making exceptions to the 10 year ban on officers retiring then overseeing the Pentagon, then it should just repeal the law. I suppose it does still do some good. [05:04] DaemonFC[m] The House effectively has to confirm the appointment as well. [05:05] DaemonFC[m] There's nothing in the Constitution that says that Congress couldn't pass a law requiring the House as well as the Senate to confirm presidential cabinet members. [05:05] DaemonFC[m] It just says that Senate confirmation is constitutionally required. [05:06] DaemonFC[m] So it's only an exclusive power of the Senate because Congress hasn't passed a law that requires the House to approve it as well. [05:06] DaemonFC[m] I think after Trump, we need a law that requires House and Senate approval of Cabinet and judicial appointments. [05:07] DaemonFC[m] An additional safeguard certainly couldn't hurt. It's less likely that both chambers of Congress will be under the control of the President's party, so the Democrats would ultimately wield more power under a future Republican president [05:07] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: which sites? TF? [05:08] DaemonFC[m] The socialist one. [05:08] DaemonFC[m] The US really has some nerve complaining about China's National Security Law and then effectively doing the same thing here. [05:09] DaemonFC[m] You notice that Biden wants a Domestic Terror Law, but it seems to me they aren't having any trouble grabbing those people who were at the Capitol Riot. [05:09] DaemonFC[m] Or figuring out multiple felony charges, for that matter, and some misdemeanors because why not. [05:10] schestowitz__ It was not a riot [05:10] schestowitz__ it was insurrection [05:10] schestowitz__ BLM had riots [05:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.11 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.35 swarm size (avg): 208.23 [05:10] schestowitz__ in some places there would be capital punishment for what people did in the Capitol [05:10] DaemonFC[m] Nobody is arresting people for speech just yet, but "de-platforming" and ending up on a list is easier I guess. [05:11] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I think the charges a lot of them will face include sedition (20 years), conspiracy (5 years) and 3-4 misdemeanors (a year or so each). [05:11] DaemonFC[m] So we may be talking 20-25 years in federal prison, tops. [05:11] DaemonFC[m] 10-15 with good behavior. [05:12] DaemonFC[m] They say there won't be any plea deals. We'll see. [05:12] DaemonFC[m] Not doing plea deals is just not how things get done here, but I guess not offering plea deals is a possibility. [05:18] techrights-bot When a lot of people/groups rely on #aws and #facebook or #twitter for their "activism" it'll be people like #bezos #zuckerberg and @jack who will decide (along with the billionaire class) what kind of activism is "permissible" [05:20] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: these precedents will be interesting [05:20] schestowitz__ when 'plebs' or 'peasants' as you call them decide to invade or march on oligarchs' home [05:20] schestowitz__ which they can do [05:20] schestowitz__ what would police do? Open fire on them? [05:20] DaemonFC[m] Wouldn't be the first time. [05:20] schestowitz__ They just rely on socialcontrolmedial for intel [05:21] DaemonFC[m] People used to get shot at for demanding 40 hour weeks, overtime, and child labor laws. [05:22] DaemonFC[m] The oligarchs don't care about any of that. It worked until they passed their free trade deals. Stallman calls them Business Supremacy Treaties. [05:22] DaemonFC[m] The working class had their moment in the sun and now, in America, it's like the roaring 20s and the Depression at the same time. [05:22] schestowitz__ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7yzi1I_Zsk [05:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-George Carlin - Owners of the Country - YouTube [05:22] schestowitz__ he mentioned "pension" [05:23] schestowitz__ and "social security" [05:23] DaemonFC[m] A massive jobs and public health crisis while the elite have added another trillion dollars to their wealth. [05:23] schestowitz__ afaik, that was before 2008 crash [05:23] schestowitz__ DaemonFC[m]: wealth is power [05:23] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Yeah, you notice how when I try to minimize our taxes to the state, we get called bad things. [05:23] schestowitz__ so they get even more control on the system, to resist reform [05:23] schestowitz__ this always ends up in riots [05:23] DaemonFC[m] When rich people deduct themselves to a few hundred bucks in taxes, it's just "what anyone would do". [05:24] DaemonFC[m] It's the law! (their law) [05:24] schestowitz__ one might joke [05:24] schestowitz__ and JOKE [05:24] schestowitz__ I mean it totally satirically [05:24] schestowitz__ that the COVID lockdown thing [05:24] schestowitz__ is like a drill [05:24] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: The way I see things is if I can deduct us to zero, good. I'm getting everything we pay for. LOL [05:24] schestowitz__ oligarchs having overstretched capitalism and debt [05:24] schestowitz__ the debt is their wealth [05:25] schestowitz__ they deposit the public debt [05:25] schestowitz__ store it offshore [05:25] schestowitz__ the virtual currency.. of power [05:25] schestowitz__ and now they check how to keep people imprisoning themselves [05:25] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: If you don't make at least $24,800 as a married couple, you definitely don't pay federal income tax. [05:25] schestowitz__ while shaming those who leave the home-dash-prison [05:25] schestowitz__ notice I'm joking here [05:25] schestowitz__ not suggesting that this is all planned and intended [05:26] DaemonFC[m] And if you make between that and about $50,000 then you don't pay more than 2-3%. That's an improvement under Trump. [05:26] DaemonFC[m] But the rich made off with a lot more. [05:26] schestowitz__ but some took the cause-effect and reversed it [05:26] schestowitz__ so covid becomes just "conspriacy" [05:26] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: My mom is so ignorant. I told her what Capital Gains tax was and she was outraged. [05:26] schestowitz__ world power dynamics are shifting and it's painful to many [05:26] DaemonFC[m] "You mean if you make it as investment income you pay half the rate I do as a nurse!?" [05:27] DaemonFC[m] I said, "Yeah. It's 15% under Trump, and he lowered it from 20%.". She goes, "I pay 28%!!!!". [05:27] DaemonFC[m] I said, "Yeah, when you find out how the system works, you're not such a fan of those Republican laws anymore are you?". [05:28] schestowitz__ how much do bezos and gates pay? [05:28] schestowitz__ 40%, right? ;-) [05:28] DaemonFC[m] Most rich people aren't clocking in and out at the salt mines, Roy. They make it as "investments" and pay "Capital Gains", and you can deduct from that. [05:29] DaemonFC[m] Very creatively deduct. So it's not even 15%. I mentioned that to her too. [05:29] schestowitz__ "job creators!" [05:29] schestowitz__ "big government" [05:29] schestowitz__ "MAGA!" [05:29] schestowitz__ "jesus saves!" [05:29] schestowitz__ jesus has a savings account [05:29] schestowitz__ he saves [05:29] DaemonFC[m] With his 10% off card from Walmart. [05:30] schestowitz__ will redeem his pension after the second ressurection [05:30] DaemonFC[m] Jesus is nearing your car with your groceries and sex lube. [05:30] schestowitz__ *Resurrection [05:31] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I'm considering setting up a Roth account for Mandy when this unpleasantness with the USCIS people is over. [05:32] DaemonFC[m] I don't see the point of using a pre-tax retirement savings account when you're already paying very low tax rates and they'll probably go up in the future. [05:32] techrights-bot #bt refund of 29.99 pounds is still due, not showing up in my account at all, instead they just bill me for some of their failed attempts to 'fix' their own problems. What utter failure of a service. #btuk [05:33] DaemonFC[m] It's a better idea for most people who can save right now to do a Roth because the rates in the future will have to be higher to fund the government. [05:33] DaemonFC[m] The debt it's accumulating now is going to be quite painful when rates rise. [05:33] DaemonFC[m] So they're going to crack down harder on the middle class. [05:34] DaemonFC[m] Illinois middle class getting a sneak preview with that Tax Hike Bill that takes away your standard deduction at a certain income level. It'll get worse. The Progressive Tax failed, but there are now court-upheld ways of raising taxes and calling them "flat". [05:36] DaemonFC[m] The Madigan Tax Hike didn't use that particular provision to raise much revenue. There simply aren't enough individuals in Illinois making over $250,000 that getting $117 out of each of them is going to make any real difference to the state. [05:37] DaemonFC[m] It was about establishing that a phase out is constitutional and that "See, it sucks for them too." even when it was more about a 26% permanent tax increase for everyone else. [05:37] schestowitz__ Roth? what's that except german red? [05:39] DaemonFC[m] A Roth IRA is where you put money that's already been taxed into an investment account for retirement. Then assuming you take it out after a certain age, the investment gains are not subject to being taxed again. They've been around since 1997 and were named after a US Senator who introduced the law. [05:39] DaemonFC[m] A Traditional IRA is where you put money in, deduct that money from your taxes this year, and then the whole thing is taxable later on. [05:39] DaemonFC[m] When you go to withdraw it. [05:40] DaemonFC[m] It's mostly a choice based on where your tax rates are now, how well you think the market will perform, and what you think tax rates will be in the future. [05:41] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: I'd say lower than average market returns and higher taxes in the future. [05:43] DaemonFC[m] There's going to come a time where what's going on in the real economy can no longer be covered up by bailouts and a central bank funding zombie corporations. [05:44] DaemonFC[m] It took the Nikkei 225 30 years just to get back to where it was in 1990, but if you factor in inflation, it's about level with where it was then. [05:44] DaemonFC[m] In other words, no growth at all. [05:56] schestowitz__ well, I withdraw an old pension of mine now [05:56] schestowitz__ they might go under in the future [05:56] schestowitz__ there's a massive tax on early withdrawal [05:57] schestowitz__ but better that than none [05:58] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Yes, whatever income tax bracket that plus your normal salary puts you in plus a 10% flat tax on the early retirement withdrawal on top of that part. [05:59] DaemonFC[m] If you are not at least 59.5 years old. ● Jan 24 [06:00] DaemonFC[m] Taking a very large dispersal mostly hits you if it sends that part of your income into a higher bracket. [06:01] DaemonFC[m] So if you can take out some of it this year and some next year to avoid a higher bracket in each tax year, then at least you'll just pay your normal tax rate on the money plus the 10% penalty, but it will still be bad. [06:01] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: There's exceptions. [06:02] DaemonFC[m] If you can show the IRS you took the money out to pay a huge medical bill, it just gets taxed at the income rate it put you in, and then you might be able to deduct some of the medical bill too if you're itemizing instead of taking the standard deduction. [06:03] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146807 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/24/#latest [06:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [06:04] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Better to file bankruptcy if it's so bad it'll drain your retirement account though. Usually, your retirement plans are off limits to the bankruptcy court even if they'd be above your exemptions if they were something else. [06:06] techrights-bot #Games Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146808 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:07] DaemonFC[m] US bankruptcy law is really geared towards helping people who had a disaster and no way to pay it back. It's not designed to help the Maricels out there who make six figures a year and should have been more fiscally conservative. [06:08] DaemonFC[m] She could file a different kind of bankruptcy that restructures it into payments with less interest, but ultimately it gets paid back. [06:08] techrights-bot #Security and #ProprietarySoftware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146810 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines [06:09] schestowitz__ duct tape on a bad system [06:09] schestowitz__ to give it more shelf life [06:09] schestowitz__ before it collapses [06:09] schestowitz__ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55778334 [06:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Alexei Navalny: 'More than 3,000 detained' in protests across Russia - BBC News [06:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.58 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.25 swarm size (avg): 209.63 [06:12] techrights-bot New in #Linux 5.12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146811 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Kernel [06:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New in Linux 5.12 | Tux Machines [06:13] schestowitz__ Russia is now a poor country [06:13] schestowitz__ same for the US [06:13] schestowitz__ they're looted countries [06:13] schestowitz__ it's a scam, a pyramid [06:13] schestowitz__ and more people are catching on/up [06:13] schestowitz__ *Russia is not [06:14] schestowitz__ the wealth is also in national assets, untapped [06:17] techrights-bot Patent Docs just now: "IPO Webinar on Diversity & Inclusion in the IP Legal Profession" The #blackmail and #extortion artists hijack "Diversity & Inclusion" in the name of increasing the parasitic activity while self-identifying as "Ethical" [06:18] techrights-bot #swpats and #ibm backed lobby IPO is also promoting and celebrating ILLEGAL #epo practices, which go against the #law but help enrich the #patent profiteers https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/ipo-webinar-on-videoconferencing-at-the-epo.html [06:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Videoconferencing at the EPO [06:21] techrights-bot 7 Linux Distros to Look Forward in 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146809 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Linux Distros to Look Forward in 2021 | Tux Machines [06:27] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146812 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [06:32] techrights-bot Links 24/1/2021: #Nouveau XOrg Driver Release and GhostBSD 21.01.20 s http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/nouveau-x-org-driver/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [06:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 24/1/2021: Nouveau X.Org Driver Release and GhostBSD 21.01.20 | Techrights ● Jan 24 [07:00] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Well, workers are having such awful conditions now that 2,000 Instacart workers voted to unionize and Instacart fired them for it, illegally. [07:01] DaemonFC[m] Normally, the National Labor Relations Board could sort this out and would rule against Instacart and force them to hire those people back or assess some sort of damages on their behalf, but Trump didn't want it to function so he didn't appoint enough board members for it to legally decide cases. [07:02] DaemonFC[m] Biden needs to immediately get people confirmed to the NLRB and the Federal Elections Commission so that they can get a quorum and function again. [07:02] DaemonFC[m] The FEC can start looking into Trump's PACs and his campaign. Better late than never. [07:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.61 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.18 swarm size (avg): 222.47 [07:26] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Call-out culture is toxic, disgusting, and vile!) [07:27] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz__: Gig workers get fucked six ways to Sunday. The worst part of it is if you're a regular employee and get a W-2 for your tax form, your employer must pay half your Social Security and Medicare taxes. [07:28] DaemonFC[m] But if you're a 1099 "contractor", you are responsible for the full amount. [07:28] DaemonFC[m] If you are an employee, you probably at least get offered health insurance, and your employer probably pays at least 60-66% of it. [07:28] DaemonFC[m] If you're a 1099 worker, you have to find a private plan or sign up for obamacare or medicaid or something. [07:31] DaemonFC[m] Lots of advantages, like if they're a contractor and get hurt, you don't have to cover it or pay workman's comp. So all of these companies just say they're a tech company and they're not responsible for anything. They screw you, they screw the government. They make billions with an app. [07:32] DaemonFC[m] Little Caesar's (a pizza chain) decided to save money by not having delivery drivers anymore. If you get a pizza, they just have Doordash pick it up for you. [07:39] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) [07:56] schestowitz__ hmm.. [07:56] schestowitz__ don't see why people still order like that [07:56] schestowitz__ there are risks associated [07:57] schestowitz__ not just costs and loss of freshness [07:57] schestowitz__ but the dining sector is trying to get creative to survive [07:59] techrights-bot Promotion of the #HEYHI ("AI") loophole for #softwarepatents where these are clearly not legal https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/webinars-on-ip-law-and-strategy-for-ai-in-europe.html [07:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Webinars on IP Law and Strategy for AI in Europe ● Jan 24 [08:02] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 23, 2021 s http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/irc-log-230121/ [08:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, January 23, 2021 | Techrights [08:06] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/politics/david-legates-ryan-maue-trump-officials-climate-change-mazie-hirono/index.html [08:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Two former Trump officials to be investigated for posting papers denying climate change - CNNPolitics [08:08] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/business/doordash-uber-eats-delivery/index.html [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DoorDash and UberEats are raising prices on some takeout orders - CNN [08:08] techrights-bot #bt #throttling became really bad as they cannot cope with a congested network. " Why should I pay 2020 prices for 1990 internet speeds? The speed test always comes back with 4.5 mb/sec and the diagnostic tool always crashes the bt dsl router." https://community.bt.com/t5/ADSL-Copper-broadband/Broadband-throttling/td-p/2035724 [08:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | Broadband throttling - BT Community [08:09] DaemonFC[m] Chicago and some other cities tried limiting how much Doordash and Ubereats could charge restaurants, to try to help restaurants who are not doing well, and so both companies started imposing a "$1 Chicago fee" on orders and charging it to customers. [08:09] DaemonFC[m] Even though, you would guess, being a tech company with not actual costs, which imposes all of the problems onto their drivers, they would be making more money these days even with the caps. [08:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 24.15 swarm size (avg): 238.52 [08:11] techrights-bot So I'm not alone in suffering from #bt #throttling (insanely slow and they refuse to fix it). "And people ask me why I left the UK 25 years ago. Sigh." https://community.bt.com/t5/ADSL-Copper-broadband/Broadband-throttling/td-p/2035724# [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | Broadband throttling - BT Community [08:13] techrights-bot 1 day after #lockdowns started in the #uk it seems like #bt very clearly capped people (and thus failed to deliver on their side of the contract). "Why BT start throttling internet without my acknowledge ?" https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/Looks-like-BT-start-throttling-fibre-2-unlimited-package/td-p/2017905 [08:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | Looks like BT start throttling fibre 2 unlimited p... - BT Community [08:14] techrights-bot "I have used 3 different modems and all yield same results. Daily throttling By BT!" We wasted billions on #brexit shambles instead of investing in #internet infra ahead of #covid19 https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/BT-Infinity-2-download-speed-being-throttled-daily-by-BT/td-p/1994878 [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.bt.com | BT Infinity 2 download speed being throttled daily... - BT Community [08:15] techrights-bot "Ofcom would not be interested unless you receive a deadlock letter from BT, to say they cannot provide the service promised." 3 days ago #BT told me they'd send me such a letter. I'm still waiting. https://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Fibre-broadband/BT-Infinity-2-download-speed-being-throttled-daily-by-BT/td-p/1994878 [08:22] techrights-bot The #bt forums keep lying for BT. Like climate change deniers. I suppose they manipulate their own forums to say they are "no longer" #throttling (and some mention #p2p etc.). But that's a lie. They're capping, shaping, throttling. More so during lockdowns. [08:24] techrights-bot Exploiting a #pandemic like they exploit their gig 'workers' [sic] https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/23/business/doordash-uber-eats-delivery/index.html [08:26] techrights-bot Trying to get arrogant ISPs to just admit they shape, cap and throttle connections in a discriminatory fashion (to protect their monopolistic partners) is like trying to get #trump to admit he lost the election [08:50] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz I used to use DSL but no building wired for phone since Chicago. [08:51] DaemonFC[m] I can see why they were skeptical of you using a landline though. Most people here argue they don't want one even if it is only $4 a month on their DSL bill. [08:53] DaemonFC[m] https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2021/1/23/22245630/microsoft-xbox-live-gold-price-increase-reversed-f2p [08:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft backtracks on Xbox Live Gold price hike - The Verge [08:55] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz, Microsoft got flamed for trying to double the price of Xbox live. It said current subscribers as of the price hike date would stay at the old price. Makes you wonder if they were trying to cause people to panic and sign up and not drop it because they'd get the higher price if they came back. [08:56] DaemonFC[m] They must be doing okay. 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Just what I had heard before they confirmed it. #deletegithub [12:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.71 swarm size (avg): 242.67 [12:14] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:14] techrights-bot #Microsoft : The Year After We Bought #GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ #DeleteGithub [12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights [12:15] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:35] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:37] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:50] psydroid schestowitz said that xbox is also losing money, so I am wondering which part of the company is earning any money [12:50] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:51] schestowitz__ psydroid: the bailout department [12:51] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/ [12:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights [12:53] psydroid also what you said about Intel being hacked early this morning, that would be big if it came out (maybe it already did) [12:53] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:57] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/XBox_Reality_Log [12:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | XBox Reality Log - Techrights [12:58] schestowitz__ mind you, page out of date [12:58] schestowitz__ I have not tracked Microsoft much for a decade [12:58] schestowitz__ but it's expensive being in the console market [12:58] schestowitz__ to just sell your shite against the Japanese giants you need to spend BILLIONS in marketing and "incentives" [12:59] schestowitz__ otherwise you stand no chance and never get off the ground, nobody develops for the platform [12:59] schestowitz__ so it's a big gamble, same for Azure [12:59] schestowitz__ which failed, obviously [12:59] schestowitz__ layoffs [12:59] schestowitz__ investment on the big, losses also on the big, still [12:59] schestowitz__ Years ago you had MSFT boosters saying Azure would catch up with AWS within years [12:59] schestowitz__ not it's a farce [12:59] schestowitz__ like all those "UPC coming soon" pieces from the past 7-8 years [12:59] schestowitz__ zoobab: ^ ● Jan 24 [13:00] schestowitz__ [12:53] also what you said about Intel being hacked early this morning, that would be big if it came out (maybe it already did) [13:00] schestowitz__ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/intel-avoids-outsourcing-embrace-investigates-hack-of-results/80417392 [13:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Intel: Intel avoids outsourcing embrace, investigates hack of results, IT News, ET CIO [13:00] schestowitz__ "Financial Times quoting its chief financial officer as saying the microchip maker had been [cracked]" [13:06] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:07] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:09] *Lantizia has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:10] *Lantizia (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [13:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 21.71 swarm size (avg): 237.54 [13:11] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:11] psydroid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles#Total_console_sales_by_firm [13:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of best-selling game consoles - Wikipedia [13:12] vZS1_2 The big names don't have real security hackers to protect them. Too busy circlejerking over their "antivirus" software. :D [13:12] psydroid looking at this it would take decades for Xbox to make any kind of impact on the world of consoles, so I am wondering what was the actual plan behind starting that division [13:12] techrights-bot In 2020 Onwards Open Source is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software s http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/oss-a-marketing-ploy/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #openwashing [13:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In 2020 Onwards Open Source is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software | Techrights [13:13] schestowitz__ psydroid: testing DRM on devices [13:13] schestowitz__ locked-down hardware as product [13:14] schestowitz__ iophk keeps telling me... [13:14] schestowitz__ hardware can be sold at high price [13:14] schestowitz__ the price of windows licence is now negative sometimes [13:14] schestowitz__ i.e. Microsoft PAYS firms to put Windows on things [13:15] vZS1_2 A lot of them run unhardened GNU/Linux distributions and many straight up install MalwareOS(Windows). It's no surprised they get hacked. [13:15] schestowitz__ psydroid: it is even worse than I thought. Nintendo sold like SIX times as many as the xbox series [13:15] schestowitz__ mayeb they count the early ones also [13:15] schestowitz__ brb [13:16] schestowitz__ trying to do many articles today... [13:16] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:16] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: thanks for mirroring or shadowing our IPFS CIDs [13:16] schestowitz__ it's almost untenable to have it on except when away or alseep [13:16] vZS1_2 But the worst vulnerability is staff that are not security conscious. No expert can save you from a bunch of uneducated dolts. [13:16] schestowitz__ BT becomes more aggressive with the throttling over time [13:17] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: what do you make of Alex Stamos? [13:17] schestowitz__ Facebook et al [13:17] schestowitz__ hailed like some champion [13:17] schestowitz__ and now hired for PR stunts by other evil companies [13:17] vZS1_2 Never heard of him [13:17] schestowitz__ along with Microsofter Kerbs [13:17] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:ca:afc4:95e7:587e) has joined #techrights [13:17] schestowitz__ *Chris [13:17] schestowitz__ not Brian [13:17] schestowitz__ some of these overhyped fools get massive salaries [13:18] schestowitz__ even if they do the most unethical things [13:18] schestowitz__ at companies that steal data [13:18] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: re: IPFS, yw. I'll mirror what I can. [13:18] schestowitz__ hailed in the media like some security icons [13:18] schestowitz__ it's incredible [13:18] schestowitz__ he blocks me in Twitter just because I mentioned his name [13:18] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:18] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [13:18] vZS1_2 I don't think you can call putting spyware-oriented telemetry security. It's the opposite of security. [13:20] schestowitz__ I am waiting for BT to send us the "deadlock" letter so I can proceed to Ofcom [13:20] vZS1_2 But we have an industry where people think log aggregation is a security product. So make of that what you will. [13:20] psydroid when I set up a networking environment for a friend of mine I set up a gateway with multiple separate networks (wan, lan, dmz) and with firewalls on every computer so they wouldn't even trust each other. Of course Google has the experts to do it more professionally, but you would expect a company of Intel's size to have that kind of knowledge among its staff as well. [13:21] schestowitz__ Intel has "Dee Aze" [13:21] schestowitz__ "Dee Axe" [13:21] vZS1_2 psydroid: good packet filtering is always important. [13:21] schestowitz__ and Sx [13:21] schestowitz__ Security eXperience [13:21] schestowitz__ it feels like security [13:21] schestowitz__ you feel the experience [13:21] schestowitz__ expensive things like solarwind [13:22] Techrights-sec The letter is something they will likely drag their feet on as much as possible.. [13:22] schestowitz__ 3 days and counting. They have not yet issued the refund/compensation, either. [13:23] vZS1_2 If you want to start building a good packet policy, I always say block every thing and then allow only what's necessary. [13:23] vZS1_2 Then you can put end-to-end encryption over that just to go the extra mile. [13:24] vZS1_2 There's an old security mantra: you can't enumerate badness. So enumerate goodness instead. [13:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:25] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:25] vZS1_2 If you've got a public-facing component, make sure that's isolated from everything else. Relay information to it over a private network. [13:25] psydroid yes, that's exactly what I tend to do [13:25] vZS1_2 A lot of the basics are common sense, really. [13:27] vZS1_2 The hard work is keeping up with vulnerabilities in the toolchain. That's a full-time job. [13:27] psydroid I bet when he switched back to Windows all of that went overboard and the problems from a decade earlier returned, but I wasn't around anymore to help out at that point [13:28] vZS1_2 Need to stay up-to-date with the source and bug-trackers. [13:28] vZS1_2 You can't do that on Windows so it's already a failure. [13:28] psydroid I still find it hard to believe that you would rip out working solutions due to a lack of skills and choose inferior non-solutions instead [13:29] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146814 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines [13:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:29] psydroid especially in hospitals as was featured on TR several times last year [13:30] vZS1_2 That's because they are managed by people who buy PR from the marketing companies. [13:30] techrights-bot How #freesw is helping solve the #plastic #pollution problem http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146813 #plastics [13:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source is helping solve the plastic pollution problem | Tux Machines [13:31] *rianne (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:ca:afc4:95e7:587e) has joined #techrights [13:31] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: nobody gets fired for stockpiling brochures :-) [13:32] Techrights-sec With the letter you can escalate the issue to Ofcom, and that [13:32] Techrights-sec is what they wish to delay. [13:36] techrights-bot #SongRec updated to 0.1.2 in #PCLinuxOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141761#comment-27956 #gnu #linux [13:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Review: This Classic Independent Linux Distribution is Definitely Worth a Look | Tux Machines [13:38] techrights-bot Contrary to what some publishers try to tell us, #GNU / #Linux is still growing and mostly at the expense of #Windows http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/share-of-desktops/ [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Data Point: GNU/Linux Share in Desktops/Laptops Nearly Tripled in the Past Decade, Peaking This Past Month (All-Time High) | Techrights [13:38] vZS1_2 Also, when you have governments and some influential companies hell-bent on the compromise of every legitimate security project out there, you can't expect the field to be in a good state. [13:39] techrights-bot #Patent zealots and their front groups already lobby Joe #Biden to put one of them in charge of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office; well soon see if Joe Biden means business or simply means monopoly/large corporations (and their law firms/departments) http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/iancu-removes-himself/ [13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Andrei Iancu Removes Himself From the Patent and Trademark Office All Eyes Are on Bidens Next Nomination | Techrights [13:40] vZS1_2 In 2020 alone, I've seen at least 2 attempts by government actors to ban real end-to-end encryption outright. [13:40] techrights-bot The whole #socialcontrolmedia phenomenon has been oversold or promoted using lies; in reality, as a mountain of evidence serves to show, its a way to manage society at a macro scale http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/back-to-blogging-makes-sense/ [13:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media is a Passing Fad, We Should All Go Back to Blogging and Subscribing to RSS Feeds | Techrights [13:41] vZS1_2 Under the guise of fake encryption like "special access". [13:41] techrights-bot #Microsoft has just admitted that in 2019 #GitHub saw a very significant decline in number of new project http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ #deletegithub [13:41] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [13:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights [13:42] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [13:42] vZS1_2 Misleading the public with the fake encryption provided by apps like WhatsApp. [13:42] techrights-bot More people are nowadays seeing or witnessing #OpenSource for what it truly is; the term has become a misleading #marketing term of #proprietarysoftware firms looking to rebrand as ethical http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/oss-a-marketing-ploy/ [13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In 2020 Onwards Open Source is Just a Marketing Ploy of Monopolies, Unlike Free Software | Techrights [13:42] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:43] vZS1_2 Like this bullshit [13:43] vZS1_2 https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/international-statement-end-to-end-encryption-and-public-safety [13:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-International statement: End-to-end encryption and public safety - GOV.UK [13:43] schestowitz__ :-) [13:43] schestowitz__ gov.youOKAY mate? [13:43] schestowitz__ "sure, just put back doors on this "hacker thing"..." [13:44] schestowitz__ when citizens exercising privacy is a crime [13:44] schestowitz__ you know you may be governed by criminals [13:44] vZS1_2 It's always "terrorism" and "child porn". [13:44] vZS1_2 When they want to ban real end-to-end encryption. [13:45] vZS1_2 A lot of the public are moronic enough to buy it. [13:45] techrights-bot #clickbait case: "The facts of Case I ZR 120/19 concern an online TV guide, which used images of four popular television presenters, including Gnther Jauch, in a Facebook post on 18 August 2015." http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/germanys-federal-court-of-justice-gives.html [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Germany's Federal Court of Justice gives weight to celebrity consent to media image use - The IPKat [13:45] vZS1_2 But you can be a Blackwater war criminal and get a presidential pardon. [13:46] schestowitz__ [13:44] It's always "terrorism" and "child porn". [13:46] vZS1_2 But if you want privacy, you're either a "terrorist" or a "pedophile". [13:46] schestowitz__ sometimes "Drugs" and other things [13:46] schestowitz__ we need an ecronym [13:46] schestowitz__ for all the patterns used [13:46] vZS1_2 I can't find the US paper trying to ban encryption. I'll link it if I remember. [13:46] schestowitz__ "money laundering", "revenge porn" [13:47] vZS1_2 s/US/USA/ [13:47] schestowitz__ US of nowhere now [13:47] schestowitz__ they lost allies [13:47] schestowitz__ Biden is not repairing relations [13:47] vZS1_2 This is a binary situation. You either have the real thing or its fake. [13:47] schestowitz__ https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/21/cuba-hip-hop-and-american-imperialism/ [13:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cuba, Hip Hop and American Imperialism - CounterPunch.org [13:48] vZS1_2 The state actors keep trying to lie to the public about the binary nature of the situation. [13:48] vZS1_2 s/its/it's/ [13:48] schestowitz__ https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/15/ten-theses-on-trump/ [13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ten Theses on Trump - CounterPunch.org [13:48] schestowitz__ "Trumps desire to destroy the Paris Agreement, Iran Deal, normalized Cuba ties, etc. Not to express any philosophy of international relations, because he doesnt have one or the mind to create onebut to vent spleen.)" [13:49] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: "nothing to hide" [13:49] schestowitz__ say people who drone you for exposing something you hid [13:49] schestowitz__ *they hid [13:50] schestowitz__ anyway, we can all agree privacy is about control [13:50] schestowitz__ or autonomy [13:50] schestowitz__ and there are many other ways to put it [13:50] schestowitz__ taking away privacy means exercising power over people [13:50] schestowitz__ in the old tribes it was the same [13:51] schestowitz__ and right not it's asymmetric and disproportional [13:51] schestowitz__ we have no privacy [13:51] schestowitz__ except few of us [13:51] schestowitz__ jailed for leaking one doc (Reality Winner et al) [13:51] schestowitz__ but when they steal GIGABYTES of our personal data from our machine nobody gets arrested [13:51] schestowitz__ it's just "keeping us safe" [13:51] vZS1_2 "National security" [13:52] schestowitz__ (GCHQ, NSA, BND...) [13:52] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: National Socialists' Job Security [13:53] vZS1_2 The push against them is there. It's doing well. We just need to keep up the heat. [13:53] schestowitz__ covid-19 gives people time to study crypto [13:53] schestowitz__ and to set things up [13:54] schestowitz__ but no guests allowed [13:54] schestowitz__ this means more chances to intercept comms [13:54] schestowitz__ less face-to-face "going dark" [13:54] schestowitz__ icymi, "going dark" is also you chatting to somewhat at the office [13:54] schestowitz__ you "go dark"... they don't have a record of the chat [13:54] vZS1_2 I don't know about you but people stopped paying attention to the lockdowns here. [13:54] schestowitz__ You COULD be plotting a terror attack !! [13:55] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: we're introverts [13:55] vZS1_2 They can't keep people penned up inside for over a year. [13:55] schestowitz__ as long as the gym is shut, we don't have interest in walking around much (stores shut anyway, they'd be fined for not obeying) [13:55] vZS1_2 Yeah. It's mostly the "non-essential" stores you see shut down. [13:55] schestowitz__ "156,992 COVID-19 deaths based on Current projection scenario by May 1, 2021" https://covid19.healthdata.org [13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-covid19.healthdata.org | COVID-19 [13:55] schestowitz__ this is new [13:55] schestowitz__ watch the chart, vZS1_2 [13:55] schestowitz__ click and see [13:55] schestowitz__ I like the "vaccine" part [13:56] schestowitz__ they show it has having miniscule effect [13:56] vZS1_2 Crap. I forgot to enable my multiplexer. Gimme a sec. [13:56] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [13:56] schestowitz__ minuscule [13:56] schestowitz__ might as well say "mass masking [13:56] schestowitz__ rather than "mass 'vaccination [13:57] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:57] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:58] schestowitz__ I forgot to close those quotes, but nm ● Jan 24 [14:06] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:07] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [14:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 27.41 swarm size (avg): 248.50 [14:14] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:15] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [14:16] MinceR lol @ security experience [14:16] schestowitz__ glad you liked that [14:16] schestowitz__ but you spelled it wrong [14:16] schestowitz__ it's eXperience [14:16] schestowitz__ with an X [14:16] schestowitz__ it's more cool that way [14:17] schestowitz__ now get your mac and you yubikey [14:17] schestowitz__ we're going places [14:17] schestowitz__ eXperiences with $700 piece of kludge [14:17] schestowitz__ that proves you're serious about security because you have a receipt [14:18] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [14:18] vZS1_2 Finally sent some doc patches I was supposed to send at the start of the week. lol [14:20] vZS1_2 SX [14:20] vZS1_2 Do you need to wear protection for that as well? [14:30] *inky (~inky@141.136.76.13) has joined #techrights [14:33] psydroid isn't that more of a topic for #sexrights? [14:36] schestowitz__ psydroid: latex only [14:36] schestowitz__ or plain text [14:36] schestowitz__ utf-8 [14:38] vZS1_2 psydroid: Security eXperience. May possibly belong in #sexrights. [14:39] schestowitz__ Assange was prosecuted or at least persecuted for not using protection [14:40] vZS1_2 What's the status of the Assange case? [14:41] vZS1_2 Last I read that there was an appeal. [14:41] schestowitz__ appeal filed [14:41] schestowitz__ by US [14:41] schestowitz__ yes, I read in 3 places [14:41] karolyi[m] "proudly brought to you by the CDC and WHO, who never been wrong about anything" [14:42] karolyi[m] at this point all I look at is the euromomo site with the all-cause mortality data [14:43] vZS1_2 It's Sleepy Joe's administration now. Let's see how he deals with the "high-tech terrorist" (his own words). [14:44] karolyi[m] https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ [14:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euromomo.eu | Graphs and maps EUROMOMO [14:47] techrights-bot When #ProprietarySoftware Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/dictating-proprietary-software/ #freesw [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Proprietary Software Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities | Techrights [14:48] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: maybe McConnel's [14:48] schestowitz__ Compare https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF8WRFw5sHQ [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Assange a high-tech terrorist: Biden - YouTube [14:48] karolyi[m] about sleepy joe: https://twitter.com/BAMAPERRY/status/1352291835566313474 [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BAMAPERRY: Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, "salute the mari https://t.co/t4alv49E4h [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BAMAPERRY: Someone telling Joe Biden through an ear piece to salute the marines, instead of saluting he says, "salute the mari https://t.co/t4alv49E4h [14:48] schestowitz__ to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uId1l2AwVH8 [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet The Press McConnell- Assange is a 'high-tech terrorist' - YouTube [14:49] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: tweets as sources :-) [14:49] karolyi[m] I mean, it's a video, see for yourself, probably you haven't even clicked just stated something [14:50] karolyi[m] up to you [14:50] schestowitz__ I want to be sure if's authentic, that's all [14:50] schestowitz__ I saw lots of fakes out there [14:51] schestowitz__ he doesn't appear to have a piece [14:51] schestowitz__ maybe he does [14:51] schestowitz__ and the video is very coarse [14:51] schestowitz__ so that could be added post-hoc [14:51] schestowitz__ twitter is not reliable, that's just my point [14:51] schestowitz__ lots of Trump lies there, now removed years late [14:52] karolyi[m] is a youtube more reliable or you will only believe it if you've been there personally? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BU0YK0cO4 [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Salute The Marines - Biden's Earpiece Fail - YouTube [14:52] vZS1_2 So they both called him a "high-tech terrorist" [14:52] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2019/07/21/twitter-is-unverified-hearsay/ [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Tweets Are Not Journalism But Succinct Unverified Hearsay; Time to Treat Them Accordingly | Techrights [14:53] schestowitz__ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/23/good-looking-marines-video-misrepresents-biden-inauguration/ [14:53] schestowitz__ I will need to start ignoring some people [14:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Good-looking Marines: Video misrepresents Biden at inauguration - The Washington Post [14:53] schestowitz__ to reduce s/n ratio [14:53] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: not sure [14:53] schestowitz__ seems like he was asked about Assange [14:53] schestowitz__ the phrase comes up [14:54] schestowitz__ and he says it's more like that than with Ellsberg [14:54] vZS1_2 It did sound to me like he said "Salute the marines". [14:54] schestowitz__ McConnell seems to have been the originakl [14:54] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: maybe manipulated [14:54] schestowitz__ social control media is NOT reliable [14:54] schestowitz__ as I said earlier [14:54] schestowitz__ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ ) [14:55] schestowitz__ https://www.ibtimes.sg/was-biden-receiving-instructions-through-hidden-earpiece-inauguration-55086 [14:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.sg | Was Biden Receiving Instructions Through Hidden Earpiece at Inauguration? [14:55] schestowitz__ " [14:55] schestowitz__ The C-Span footage that is being cited as evidence of Biden's secret earpiece does not actually prove the social media users' claim. There is no indication from the clip that Biden was wearing a hidden headset and taking orders through it and it is not clear what exactly he said, either. [14:55] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:55] schestowitz__ Several Twitter users pointed out that they heard Biden say, "Good looking Marines." [14:55] schestowitz__ "That's a more reasonable explanation tha(n) 'Biden had a secret earpiece yesterday, only once accidentally repeated his Deep State instructions, and a random guy noticed it,'" Washington Post reporter Dave Weigel, who often debunks manipulated media on his Twitter feed, wrote. [14:55] schestowitz__ " [14:55] schestowitz__ It';s another useless waste-of-time debate [14:55] vZS1_2 "I would argue that's it's closer to being a high-tech terrorist..." [14:55] vZS1_2 He did say that [14:56] schestowitz__ yeah [14:56] schestowitz__ I posted that as OGG in TR [14:56] schestowitz__ last year [14:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:56] schestowitz__ among other Biden videos [14:56] schestowitz__ where he's with Bush and McCain [14:56] vZS1_2 Either way, he is an enemy of the freedom of press [14:56] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2021/01/20/articles-about-president-joe-biden/ [14:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Recent Techrights Articles About President Joe Biden | Techrights [14:57] schestowitz__ Internet is full of garbage [14:57] vZS1_2 Assange was persecuted under his watch. Biden is an espionage insider. Has deep ties to the NSA, CIA, etc. [14:57] schestowitz__ twitter I've ruled out as a source ages ago [14:57] schestowitz__ unless the poster is some official channel [14:58] schestowitz__ like media company that still sort of tries to at least affirm authnticity [14:58] schestowitz__ never mind if they spin things [14:58] vZS1_2 I see way too many people defending Biden like it's some sort of thing to be thankful for. "Not Trump" is not a standard to pursue. [14:59] schestowitz__ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/22/tweets/social-media-users-push-evidence-free-claim-joe-bi/ ) [14:59] schestowitz__ "On the contrary, the social media claims resemble past conspiracy theories that targeted Biden during his campaign. Those claims alleged, without evidence, that Biden wore a wire or used a medical device to get answers from aides during the presidential debates." [14:59] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: both are douchebags [14:59] schestowitz__ but we need to get reliable facts and footage or transcripts [14:59] schestowitz__ like Trump's "big league" ● Jan 24 [15:00] schestowitz__ some people said he had stated "bigly" [15:00] vZS1_2 Who cares if he wore a wire. The man oversaw the expansion of ICE and PRISM. [15:00] schestowitz__ later I realised that the anti-Trump camp was also distorting [15:00] vZS1_2 They're dragging on a debate about something that doesn't matter. [15:00] schestowitz__ PRISM was an extension of Bush programs [15:00] schestowitz__ Biden and Bush are close [15:00] vZS1_2 An extendion Obama and Biden happily went along with [15:00] schestowitz__ Biden gave Bush a MEDAL [15:00] vZS1_2 s/extendion/extension/ [15:01] vZS1_2 The Obama-Biden administration used the Espionage Act to ruin lives. [15:02] vZS1_2 Trump pardoned Blackwater war criminals. What are they letting their country to turn into.... [15:02] schestowitz__ Video: http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/the-pardon-train/ [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | But at Least Hes Not Donald Trump or George Bush | Techrights [15:03] schestowitz__ More photos http://techrights.org/2020/11/09/biden-riaa-and-mpaa/ [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just for the Record(ing Industry): Joe Biden is an Enemy of Freedom and of Software Freedom | Techrights [15:03] schestowitz__ McCain-Biden (video): http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/ [15:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shifted to the Right | Techrights [15:05] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:06] techrights-bot De-Coding Indian Intellectual Property [sic] #Law https://spicyip.com/2021/01/delhi-high-court-interprets-export-as-use-in-india-grants-interim-injunction-to-h-lundbeck-a-s.html does that serve #india or foreign robber barons? [15:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Delhi High Court Interprets Export as Use in India; Grants Interim Injunction to Lundbeck | SpicyIP [15:08] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:09] techrights-bot US Empire has #USTR blackmail artists shaming and bullying nations that don't obey the Empire's oligarchs https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2021/january/ustr-releases-2020-review-notorious-markets-counterfeiting-and-piracy lots on USTR in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Cablegate [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ustr.gov | USTR Releases 2020 Review of Notorious Markets for Counterfeiting and Piracy | United States Trade Representative [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cablegate - Techrights [15:10] techrights-bot This is a lie. #USTR is not US government but a front of corporations. https://www.thefashionlaw.com/amazon-platforms-have-landed-on-u-s-governments-notorious-markets-list-for-a-second-year/ [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://www.thefashionlaw.com/amazon-platforms-have-landed-on-u-s-governments-notorious-markets-list-for-a-second-year/ ) [15:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 35.71 swarm size (avg): 262.47 [15:11] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:11] techrights-bot [Older] The EUs attempt to regulate Big Tech: What it brings and what is missing https://edri.org/our-work/eu-attempt-to-regulate-big-tech/ #gdpr #eu [15:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | The EUs attempt to regulate Big Tech: What it brings and what is missing - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [15:13] vZS1_2 I expect things to get worse in terms on antitrust in the USA. Biden is glad to stuff big tech people into critical roles. [15:13] vZS1_2 Probably part of his campaign donation deal. [15:13] karolyi[m] I will agree with the "fact checkers" that the burden of proof is on the people who claim he said it, but they also provided quite a weak "debunking" [15:14] karolyi[m] it's just what they do, muddle up the waters [15:14] karolyi[m] divide et impera [15:14] karolyi[m] is the name of the game [15:14] vZS1_2 Trump thought social control media would always be on his side. He was a fool. [15:15] vZS1_2 They kicked him off once they knew he was no longer going to be POTUS. [15:16] karolyi[m] play stupid games, win stupid prizes [15:16] techrights-bot "In implementing any decisions, the DSC with jurisdiction must communicate certain information to the EDBS/Commission who may communicate their views when they are of the opinion that any action plan proposed is insufficient." http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2020/12/overview-of-digital-services-act.html [15:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eulawanalysis.blogspot.com | EU Law Analysis: Overview of Digital Services Act [15:17] techrights-bot #Spain cannot occupy #Chile with troops anymore. So send the lawyers and lobbyists. https://iptango.blogspot.com/2021/01/chile-and-madrid-protocol-are-we-close.html [15:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iptango.blogspot.com | Chile and the Madrid Protocol: are we close yet? - IPTango [15:18] techrights-bot #clownComputing #FTC #YouAreTheProduct https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/22225171/ftc-facial-recognition-ever-settled-paravision-privacy-photos [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | FTC settles with photo storage app that pivoted to facial recognition - The Verge [15:19] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: they profited off him [15:19] schestowitz__ and the provocation he caused [15:19] schestowitz__ flaming for responses [15:19] schestowitz__ pushing ads [15:20] schestowitz__ they threw him under the bus the moment he was no longer the "highest bidder" [15:20] schestowitz__ now they can rewrite history as "helping Biden" [15:20] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [15:20] schestowitz__ With all sorts of misinformation still floating in there [15:21] techrights-bot #Fedora doesnt care about #softwarefreedom and its steward (or parent company) is sometimes imposing #proprietarysoftware on staff; theyve quit caring http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/dictating-proprietary-software/ #ibm #redhat [15:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Proprietary Software Users Dictate the Freedom-Leaning Communities | Techrights [15:21] karolyi[m] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/665532947973013514/779091408811851776/1605820164765.png [15:21] *Lantizia has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:21] *Lantizia (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [15:22] schestowitz__ Trump memes from Discord [15:22] schestowitz__ classy [15:22] schestowitz__ facts are still facts [15:22] schestowitz__ and social control media is a premier source of gossip [15:22] schestowitz__ need to see the cspan original [15:23] schestowitz__ and then figure out from that the context and what was said [15:23] schestowitz__ Senile/demented Trump has long used projection tactics [15:23] schestowitz__ like the "Sleepy" thing (which is partly true) [15:23] schestowitz__ (about both) [15:24] schestowitz__ "Crooked Hillary" [15:24] karolyi[m] I have tried to hear what he said from both sides of the aisle, one can't really make it out, can be understood both ways [15:24] schestowitz__ "Nasty Woman" [15:24] schestowitz__ describing himself basically [15:24] schestowitz__ for illusion of parity [15:24] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:24] schestowitz__ karolyi[m]: the video could have audio edited [15:24] schestowitz__ and then redistributed [15:24] schestowitz__ then going 'viral' for the edit [15:24] schestowitz__ need to seek the original [15:25] schestowitz__ not "tweet" [15:25] schestowitz__ "original" tweet [15:25] schestowitz__ twitter is a rabbit's hole [15:25] schestowitz__ you get disinformation about disinformation [15:25] schestowitz__ and then lose track of actual info [15:25] schestowitz__ youtube also has "deep fakes" [15:25] schestowitz__ but... [15:25] schestowitz__ maybe it's not a fake [15:25] schestowitz__ and then you wonder about context [15:25] schestowitz__ my initial reaction was, he doesn't need an earpiece [15:25] schestowitz__ and I could see none [15:26] karolyi[m] even the "fact checkers" don't argue for the video being edited, they also claimed he muttered something, but each can perceive it according to one's views and biases [15:27] techrights-bot "So I changed to Debian and used it for a time until change to other distros, but I was amazed how fast it was, of course I couldnt use all of the same programs I used to work with but I did learn new ones." https://cbcalves.github.io/post/konsole-contribute/ [15:27] karolyi[m] confirmation bias is clearly a thing here [15:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cbcalves.github.io | Carlos Alves | Contributing to Konsole [15:27] karolyi[m] like I said, divide and conquer is the name of the game [15:28] CrystalMath schestowitz__: Hillary IS awful [15:29] techrights-bot Overkill for something that ought not be more simple than a text file with symbols and indentation https://opensource.com/article/21/1/break-down-tasks [15:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3 stress-free steps to tackling your task list | Opensource.com [15:29] CrystalMath let's not delude ourselves that there's any other reason why Trump won in 2016 [15:29] CrystalMath Hillary IS awful and will always continue to be [15:29] CrystalMath i look forward to the day she dies [15:29] vZS1_2 The Clintons have no qualms about doing things like bombing medical infrastructure in developing countries. Look up Operation Infinite Reach. [15:30] schestowitz__ anyway, back on topic [15:30] schestowitz__ and now "tweets"... [15:30] schestowitz__ so we have this new post about fedora [15:30] habaner0 what are the alternatives to letsencrypt ? [15:30] schestowitz__ they defend using adobe [15:30] schestowitz__ habaner0: noencrypt ;-) [15:30] schestowitz__ or RealEncrypt [15:30] schestowitz__ without a middleman :-) [15:31] karolyi[m] self signed certs with a CA you create and install into your clients... [15:31] schestowitz__ I wouldn't trust GitHub hosted MicrosoftLFoundation with certs [15:31] habaner0 ty [15:31] vZS1_2 Libressl is good. [15:31] habaner0 are there any downfalls to using lets encrypt [15:31] schestowitz__ LE is just LF [15:31] schestowitz__ in new clothing [15:31] schestowitz__ look up the IRS filings for LE [15:32] schestowitz__ same people [15:32] karolyi[m] what's a LF? [15:32] vZS1_2 Linux Foundation (LF) [15:32] karolyi[m] aha [15:32] schestowitz__ Let's Foundatio [15:32] vZS1_2 schestowitz__: You could say the bombing of a parmaceutical building deprived people in need of technology. [15:32] karolyi[m] well I use letsencrypt to provide lots ssl certs for sites I serve... I don't know any better now [15:32] schestowitz__ The F does not have to stand for Foundation [15:33] vZS1_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Shifa_pharmaceutical_factory [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory - Wikipedia [15:33] vZS1_2 I think that's kind of on-topic [15:33] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundations Lets Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights [15:33] schestowitz__ http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ [15:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Its Disguised as Free Privacy | Techrights [15:33] schestowitz__ they already had major "incidents" [15:34] schestowitz__ millions of "bad certs" [15:34] schestowitz__ and no explanation as to why that happened [15:34] vZS1_2 People shouldn't forget these things (bombing of Al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory) by USA. [15:34] schestowitz__ maybe they made a Real(TM) COvid(R) Vaccine(C) [15:35] schestowitz__ like Libya wanted to move away from USD [15:35] schestowitz__ Saddam had to go [15:35] schestowitz__ Saddan was ruler of Saudi Arabia [15:35] schestowitz__ and sent over half a dozen AQ terrorists [15:36] schestowitz__ Kim is a good lad though [15:36] schestowitz__ "I fell in love with him" [15:37] vZS1_2 Trump loves missiles too [15:37] vZS1_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Qasem_Soleimani [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Assassination of Qasem Soleimani - Wikipedia [15:38] techrights-bot #Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle - Phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Hinge-Driver-Linux-5.12 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle - Phoronix [15:39] vZS1_2 And people wonder why the world hates the USA [15:39] karolyi[m] well if the NSA has the LE root CA compromised, that still doesn't mean they are able to decrypt the TLS connection encrypted with their certificates, it just means that they are able to falsify certificates with it [15:39] karolyi[m] which is bad of course, provided they can hijack domains [15:40] vZS1_2 LE reinforces the CA monopoly on trust. Browsers reinforce that monopoly. [15:40] techrights-bot US Defense Intelligence Agency admits buying location data off brokers https://in.news.yahoo.com/us-defence-intelligence-agency-admits-142956197.html [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-in.news.yahoo.com | US Defense Intelligence Agency admits buying location data off brokers [15:40] habaner0 snowden already revealed that they can unencrypt at will [15:40] karolyi[m] but quite honestly, no one can tell at this point if the NSA or other "security agencies" have an intermediate cert already [15:41] karolyi[m] habaner0: do you have a source for that? [15:41] vZS1_2 If there is a source, they should go claim their Turing Award. [15:41] techrights-bot The Kate Text Editor - January 2021 https://kate-editor.org/post/2021/2021-01-24-kate-january-2021/ #kde #gnu #linux #freesw [15:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-kate-editor.org | The Kate Text Editor - January 2021 - Kate | Get an Edge in Editing [15:41] habaner0 I believe in his book, dont quote me on it though, I may be wrong [15:42] karolyi[m] I mean there are ciphers that are prone to quantum attacks, but normally this is why the SSL/TLS suite can use various ciphers, so you can phase out the weak ones over time [15:43] karolyi[m] or might be some other method which I don't know of, but am interested in learning about it [15:43] vZS1_2 Write a paper and publish it. The security community would love to peer-review it. [15:45] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [15:45] karolyi[m] ? [15:45] vZS1_2 http://techrights.org/2020/11/07/free-privacy-lunch/ [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Encrypt is Garbage, Albeit Its Disguised as Free Privacy | Techrights [15:47] vZS1_2 The CA monopoly is antithetical to libre software. [15:48] karolyi[m] I will agree with the monopoly aspect [15:48] karolyi[m] and also that they're hosted on proprietary sites [15:49] karolyi[m] but then again, how could you verify that their published code on their own site (hosted somewhere on an opensource platform) is the same they use on their backends? [15:50] karolyi[m] as long as people wouldn't be able to deploy the entire infrastructure for themselves, I guess no one can make sure they're safe [15:50] karolyi[m] and even then, who has the control over the root CA [15:50] vZS1_2 Real security means you tier how much you trust encryption keys. [15:51] vZS1_2 If you get it in person, you can say it's safe to use. For example, get a certificiate by going to your bank. [15:51] vZS1_2 If you want to just read a blog post, you can just trust any old TLS cert. [15:51] vZS1_2 This is real security and not theatre. [15:52] schestowitz__ [15:50] and even then, who has the control over the root CA [15:52] schestowitz__ maybe the I between the C and A [15:52] karolyi[m] lol [15:52] schestowitz__ I cited the example from Switzerland [15:52] schestowitz__ where the CIA literally owned them, secretly [15:52] schestowitz__ and that was a recent story [15:53] vZS1_2 Current TLS infrastructure is pure theatre [15:53] schestowitz__ outsourcing trust [15:53] schestowitz__ who to? [15:53] schestowitz__ exactly! [15:54] vZS1_2 Bingo [15:54] schestowitz__ starttls bad [15:54] schestowitz__ because "China" [15:54] schestowitz__ LE/GitHub good [15:54] schestowitz__ cause Microsoft/Zemlin [15:54] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:54] schestowitz__ "orange man" helped people forget about NSA leaks [15:54] schestowitz__ for 5 years [15:56] vZS1_2 And the browser providers dictation which CAs you can trust. i.e., the war on self-signed keys. [15:56] vZS1_2 s/dictation/dictate/ [15:56] vZS1_2 They bury the "accept self-signed cert" button under several menus and scary warning banners [15:57] schestowitz__ grafam browsers [15:57] schestowitz__ gafam [15:57] schestowitz__ china bad [15:57] vZS1_2 Even if you got a cert in person, they don't care. It's still "unsafe" [15:57] schestowitz__ not approved by trumpland [15:57] schestowitz__ way to assert control over the Net [15:57] schestowitz__ via browsers [15:57] schestowitz__ and pre-wired whitelisting [15:57] schestowitz__ oh, sorry [15:57] schestowitz__ bad word [15:58] schestowitz__ slavery does not exist anymore [15:58] schestowitz__ or digital colonialism [15:58] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:58] schestowitz__ that's old stuff, like robber barons [15:58] schestowitz__ they gave away their wealth and ceased to exist [15:58] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [15:59] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [15:59] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 24 [16:00] vZS1_2 It would be very easy to properly get a public key. They do fit on dotmatrix in a single page. [16:01] techrights-bot #WhiskerMenu 2.5.3 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145879#comment-27957 #gnu #linux [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Whisker Menu 2.5 Released | Tux Machines [16:01] vZS1_2 You could use the camera on your laptop or phone or something to scan it when you're at your bank [16:01] vZS1_2 But that would mean education the public about real digital security [16:01] vZS1_2 And we can't have that [16:01] vZS1_2 s/education/educating/ [16:01] schestowitz__ "get chrome" [16:01] schestowitz__ 4 colours [16:01] schestowitz__ rainbows and ponies [16:02] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:03] schestowitz__ https://asktogrow.com/tech/wirelessly-use-any-device-as-second-display-of-your-pc-with-darkscreen-for-free/ [16:03] schestowitz__ "Secured via End-to-end encryption" [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wirelessly Use Any Device as Second Display of your PC with Darkscreen for FREE Open Source & Linux News, Business Ideas & Much more at one place - Asktogrow.com [16:04] vZS1_2 People visit their grocery stores all the time as well. They could easily print their public keys at the till. [16:04] vZS1_2 It can be done from any computer with a printer [16:06] vZS1_2 But instead they are busy printing QR codes that track people to spy on their movements. [16:06] techrights-bot Very disappointing that #medevel today promotes #surveillance and #ProprietarySoftware for collaboration, overlooking vastly better options https://medevel.com/5-ways-remote-developers-can-collaborate-in-real-time/ [16:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 5 Ways Remote Developers Can Collaborate In Real Time [16:06] schestowitz__ vZS1_2: but... [16:06] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:06] schestowitz__ terrorists [16:07] schestowitz__ pedophiles [16:07] vZS1_2 drug smugglers [16:07] schestowitz__ russia [16:07] vZS1_2 china [16:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.18 swarm size (avg): 265.12 [16:10] techrights-bot Getting Started with #RaspberryPiPico using MicroPython and C http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146707#comment-27958 [16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi Foundation Release Their Own Silicon, the Raspberry Pi Pico | Tux Machines [16:11] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [16:14] karolyi[m] trump and/or biden! [16:15] techrights-bot #Intel Has A New Driver For #Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptops Hinge/Keyboard Angle http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146815 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Has A New Driver For Linux 5.12: Reporting Your Laptop's Hinge/Keyboard Angle | Tux Machines [16:18] techrights-bot If you try to apply for mentorship at #linuxfoundation you are asked to log in with one of: 1) Microsoft 2) Microsoft 3) Google 4) Facebook Stay classy, #zemlinPAC [16:18] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:20] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:20] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [16:21] techrights-bot On the upside, #linuxfoundation mentorship do not, for a change, have a requirement like "do not be male" [16:22] MinceR 24 163024 < habaner0> what are the alternatives to letsencrypt ? [16:22] MinceR onion sites via tor [16:22] MinceR eepsites via i2p [16:22] MinceR your public key is your domain name [16:22] karolyi[m] who about being huwhite? [16:22] karolyi[m] *how [16:22] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:22] MinceR i don't know that one [16:23] *asusbox (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:7df5:2917:c015:fa08) has joined #techrights [16:23] MinceR ah, you were replying to something else [16:23] vZS1_2 i2p is a good project. I prefer their infrastructure to Tor. [16:23] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:23] karolyi[m] yeah, I just don't use the reply function so that the irc side is not screwed up [16:24] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [16:24] techrights-bot #openSUSE #Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/03 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146816 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/03 | Tux Machines [16:25] techrights-bot #GTK4 Toolkit Seeing More Improvements To Its #OpenGL Renderer - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GTK4-More-OpenGL-Improvements #Phoronix #GNOME [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GTK4 Toolkit Seeing More Improvements To Its OpenGL Renderer - Phoronix [16:26] vZS1_2 It's a bit of a struggle to me to skim the i2p code, though. Java not my most familiar language. [16:27] techrights-bot #gcc 11: #libgccjit is no longer 'alpha' https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2021-January/564163.html [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | [PATCH 2/6] gcc 11: libgccjit is no longer 'alpha' [16:27] vZS1_2 They (i2p) migrated over from Monotone to Git, not long ago. That should make the project a bit more accessible. [16:34] techrights-bot #KDE : #Kate and #Konsole http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146818 #GNU #Linux [16:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: Kate and Konsole | Tux Machines [16:34] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:35] MinceR (audio) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/726093.mp4 [16:36] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:36] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146819 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [16:37] techrights-bot GNU: #GNU #Binutils 2.36, #GCC 11, and #GTK 4.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146817 [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU: GNU Binutils 2.36, GCC 11, and GTK 4.0 | Tux Machines [16:40] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:42] schestowitz__ What does this site run? https://sso.linuxfoundation.org/login/?state=g6Fo2SBqc2pWNFRTbzV0dlktVjhWTFVQS0htdFdsVDVqZlJHcKN0aWTZIFNnaFZDRFJQZmg2NEFlYlB2TWtsQmF4SE1Ta3VsUWtuo2NpZNkgRktmTUcxMk9QN2d1NVowMXB0dDNoTmtmMkJka1BQYzE&client=FKfMG12OP7gu5Z01ptt3hNkf2BdkPPc1&protocol=oauth2&redirect_uri=https:%2F%2Fmentorship.lfx.linuxfoundation.org&scope=openid%20profile%20email&response_type=code&response_mode=query& [16:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sso.linuxfoundation.org | The Linux Foundation [16:42] schestowitz__ nonce=Lnl3Q2tzb1FZYWdVTGpRVlVKYlBpT2VWTmRLcnF3ZWdwNnBGc2xSYmt1Tw%3D%3D&code_challenge=OG29R-ed7F-hGR-TvaeXR_LQxfcCeQEtvoHkHOMl4hg&code_challenge_method=S256&auth0Client=eyJuYW1lIjoiYXV0aDAtc3BhLWpzIiwidmVyc2lvbiI6IjEuMTMuMCJ9 [16:42] schestowitz__ page source provides no clues [16:44] schestowitz__ "https://linuxfoundation.org [16:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation - Decentralized innovation, built with trust [16:44] schestowitz__ Decentralized innovation. [16:44] schestowitz__ Built on trust. [16:44] schestowitz__ " [16:44] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:44] schestowitz__ Decentralised... on Microsoft Github :-) [16:44] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [16:45] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [16:48] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:49] techrights-bot 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 24th, 2021 (1st Anniversary) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146820 #GNU #Linux [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: January 24th, 2021 (1st Anniversary) | Tux Machines [16:52] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:52] kingoffrance well, decentralized as in https://www.abetterinternet.org/careers/ lol that kind of decentralized https://www.abetterinternet.org/about/ [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abetterinternet.org | Careers - Internet Security Research Group [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abetterinternet.org | About Internet Security Research Group - Internet Security Research Group [16:52] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.168.40.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [16:53] kingoffrance 100s of nameless faceless corps and the fortune 100..."decentralized" lol [16:53] kingoffrance (lets encrypt forward you to abetterinternet) [16:53] kingoffrance even more "decentralization" lol [16:55] kingoffrance i guess that kind of "decentralize" is slang for "bring all the corps together" [16:57] kingoffrance appearance of decentralization, to provide a mechanism for more [16:59] kingoffrance "ISRG is a California public benefit corporation" thats literally what corporation means, one body. centralize ● Jan 24 [17:00] kingoffrance thats the literal definition lol [17:01] kingoffrance conways law at work [17:09] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:09] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [17:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 272.41 [17:12] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:13] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:29] *rianne__ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:29] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:30] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [17:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [17:46] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [17:47] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [17:49] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:49] *vZS1 (~vZS1@88-109-14-169.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #techrights [17:53] MinceR (cat) (audio) https://i.imgur.com/EIMfqnp.mp4 ● Jan 24 [18:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 267.21 [18:21] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:21] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:36] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:37] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [18:45] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:52] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726175.png [18:54] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) ● Jan 24 [19:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 262.20 [19:34] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [19:36] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.169.215.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [19:42] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [19:42] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:42] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [19:42] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:45] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/726207.jpg ● Jan 24 [20:00] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:01] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [20:07] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [20:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 257.37 [20:11] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/725924.png [20:27] XRevan86 MinceR: I respect that. [20:27] MinceR i particularly like their names ● Jan 24 [21:00] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/VYZkwgV.jpeg [21:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:06] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [21:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 252.72 [21:11] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:16] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:16] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [21:25] *DVulgaris has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:26] *DVulgaris (~quassel@185.108.81.14) has joined #techrights [21:37] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE80Mdv7eTs [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VvWW - YouTube ● Jan 24 [22:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 248.23 [22:11] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:12] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:15] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:17] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:18] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [22:19] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Jan 24 [23:10] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.33 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 19.30 swarm size (avg): 243.90 [23:44] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [23:45] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:48] schestowitz__ psydroid: did you pass me that IBM email? [23:51] psydroid schestowitz_, I will try to do it tomorrow afternoon/evening, I was preparing for my exam tomorrow (actually today)