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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: An Insight to PureOS 9.0 Hephaestus http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134399 [https://pleroma.site/objects/77ddd4a1-607a-403b-ba2d-65135b172b1b]Feb 24 00:00
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roys[21:18] <scientes> MinceR, thanks for the cat warning :)Feb 24 01:02
royswarning! cat!Feb 24 01:02
royscat warningFeb 24 01:02
royswarning: file not foundFeb 24 01:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Notable – Markdown based Note-taking App for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134402 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f05cb15-cb60-4af2-8bde-01db4687b80c]Feb 24 01:16
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Nate Graham's Latest Report on KDE Development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134403 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7a120e81-cfa8-4550-bdb6-7eaa6bfa4629]Feb 24 01:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Netrunner 20.01 – “Twenty” released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134404 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6d021db4-587c-4487-9a4e-73ecc8080be5]Feb 24 01:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134405 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e55024d1-79da-490d-b359-4abac241c60b]Feb 24 01:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DPL Sam Hartman proves blackmail is alive and well in Debian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134406 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cac83971-caf0-46e0-b3ad-feb89f8894b4]Feb 24 01:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Thoughts From Jussi Pakkanen, Releases From Debian Developers, GSoC Projects and Python Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134407 [https://pleroma.site/objects/eba075b5-500d-44f9-a14f-09cd0a8b826f]Feb 24 01:51
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scientes<roys> warning: file not foundFeb 24 01:53
scientesheheFeb 24 01:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.6-rc3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134408 [https://pleroma.site/objects/17ef839c-730e-4591-9739-1fba51ad774b]Feb 24 01:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #EasyNAS 1.0 Beta 3 is out http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134409 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d4af8147-e494-468c-b91e-21c90598d4d6]Feb 24 01:58
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tick Tock Clocks got redesigned! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134410 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bdcf29c3-56e0-46d8-8651-2e122dfc8e70]Feb 24 02:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Review: Void 20191109 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134411 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d15e1dc3-3e43-49f7-8e6c-9fb36075c6c7]Feb 24 02:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Reiser5 in Linux 5.5.5 and C-SKY CPU Architecture for Linux 5.6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134412 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b97cda27-f6cd-4c4e-be6e-5e5cba89fd96]Feb 24 02:28
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #AOSP or 'Open' #Android http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134413 [https://pleroma.site/objects/501a57e8-1dfa-4c6e-91af-0e1c446c6726]Feb 24 03:20
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Reaching Serenity: Porting Git To A Homebrew Operating System http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134414 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dadd4325-2412-4b7d-ada7-6a7f46117322]Feb 24 03:23
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: GNU/Linux Gaming, Aseprite and Corona to Release Code http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134415 [https://pleroma.site/objects/66e46a13-b86f-4b11-9a95-f35b08090ca2]Feb 24 03:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134416 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2c205ce8-5606-429b-a44f-eac22cf15fd5]Feb 24 03:50
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 'Open-source' Rotary Cellphone http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134417 [https://pleroma.site/objects/05135149-c69e-43df-90a2-93c2a2d709ac]Feb 24 04:03
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Laravel News, Open Source Security Podcast, GNU World Order and Linux Action News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134418 [https://pleroma.site/objects/56035559-7830-4324-a0e7-8785ae7ba6da]Feb 24 04:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: International Centre for Free and Open Source Software wins honour by Malayalam Mission http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134419 [https://pleroma.site/objects/02e6dfe8-2449-41e7-ba41-298cb79a4482]Feb 24 04:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FOSS in Finance and 'Crypto' Currency http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134420 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7b80b2f7-3c83-4e87-b21b-b89866e5cc79]Feb 24 05:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Contributing to KDE is easier than you think — Localization plain and simple http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134421 [https://pleroma.site/objects/edd60348-b7a3-42e3-8a03-6faae08fb88b]Feb 24 05:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security and FUD: SpaceX, NMap, Polyverse, MongoDB, NGINX and Kubernetes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134422 [https://pleroma.site/objects/06a41163-416a-435b-be25-4faff33f0e99]Feb 24 05:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 3-D Printing and Open Hardware: MakerBot, AAScan and RISC-V http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134423 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c6722fbd-c2b6-4d44-9876-7575adb7ecf0]Feb 24 05:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: PicoCore, u‑blox and ESP32 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134424 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5dbc8ac8-2679-4746-9635-495c1c20572c]Feb 24 06:00
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MinceR(cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/07/f71c3c6a209c7560.jpgFeb 24 07:35
schestowitzCat discovers second amendment Feb 24 07:37
schestowitztakes it too faaaarFeb 24 07:37
MinceRit's impossible to take it too farFeb 24 07:39
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/653888.jpgFeb 24 07:48
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/653848.jpgFeb 24 08:13
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Who cares about Emacs? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134425 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cbfdf85b-c1fc-4d95-a34a-88fe5bf6900c]Feb 24 08:50
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134426 [https://pleroma.site/objects/061c4db6-7744-4421-adc6-39be4b5f2ab5]Feb 24 08:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: VokoscreenNG: Open Source Screencasting Tool http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134427 [https://pleroma.site/objects/149e088b-eb5d-4bbd-9441-4936f48c79f3]Feb 24 08:53
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Series: Inside the Free Software Foundation (FSF) http://techrights.org/2020/02/24/fsf-transparency/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/ee256927-21f4-422b-b82c-e3a3bb76eac4]Feb 24 09:36
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134428 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6570093b-dfb5-4e18-85ad-7a78af767131]Feb 24 10:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Excellent System Tools: nnn – portable terminal file manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134429 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9dcf9e21-5601-466e-a370-d40f24b33f78]Feb 24 11:36
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Alexandre Oliva's New Article About a Coup http://techrights.org/2020/02/24/oliva-on-coup/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/2b955f08-0acf-4a30-8e8a-d0f3766b2707]Feb 24 11:56
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Pathway, RimWorld and Dreamgate http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134431 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fbcf7d09-6826-4fd8-80e8-434a4e82498a]Feb 24 13:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How to Delete Groups in Linux With groupdel Command http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134430 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4ddc53a1-2db4-4596-bbfe-f989f7d700f0]Feb 24 13:03
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: Systemd, PulseAudio, Survey and OpenStack http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134433 [https://pleroma.site/objects/314b53e7-0749-4f20-bbe0-b053f3cd89c9]Feb 24 14:17
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DaemonFC[m]Samsung pushed out a broken security update this month that breaks vpn apps.Feb 24 15:21
DaemonFC[m]What is this? Windows 10?Feb 24 15:21
MinceR:>Feb 24 15:24
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: proprietary shiteFeb 24 15:40
schestowitzfirefox broke due to drm this monthFeb 24 15:40
schestowitzeme is non-free 'software'Feb 24 15:41
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134434 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d5426ad-a335-44d4-a999-f9aa729a31cf]Feb 24 15:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134435 [https://pleroma.site/objects/532f4c9d-4c93-4483-b574-db2f6a4a6990]Feb 24 15:44
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 24/2/2020: Linux 5.6 RC3, Netrunner 20.01, Google Summer of Code 2020 Mentoring Organisations Announced http://techrights.org/2020/02/24/netrunner-20-01/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/94c7353e-ebbb-4156-8c97-b67dd3c1755d]Feb 24 15:55
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: An FSF That Rejects Its Founder Would Not Remain FSF As We Once Knew It http://techrights.org/2020/02/24/fsf-and-rms-2020/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec71f3a0-fc96-4da9-aa9c-f64bd4d878cb]Feb 24 16:36
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Future of the Arch Linux Project Leader http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134437 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb490234-4575-4720-a2b7-d47e825c23cf]Feb 24 17:07
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Space Grunts 2, Death and Taxes, Oxygen Not Include http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134439 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6526816c-b2f2-4ebe-8533-c2ebab513d90]Feb 24 17:34
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HbrXRUrCkQWZcEYdvumSJkyT >Feb 24 17:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ethical Code Hosting Services in 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134440 [https://pleroma.site/objects/64a8105c-8594-42b7-82a8-74ed7b01d642]Feb 24 17:38
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, nobody at Vivaldi cares about BSD.Feb 24 17:47
DaemonFC[m]The issue where they said they'd look into it is 4 years old and the post died.Feb 24 17:48
DaemonFC[m]Someone suggested the Linuxulator and the guy said he didn't want to run a Linux program.Feb 24 17:48
DaemonFC[m]He compared it to Wine.Feb 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]Which would be a valid argument, except all of the facts in evidence suggest the FreeBSD people are less competent than the ones in charge of Linux.Feb 24 17:50
DaemonFC[m]Chromium itself has never supported BSD, unless you count Mac OS, and even then, it's hardly pleasurable to have to carry hacks and workarounds for such a deficient operating system, but those will be like 8% of your users, so meh.Feb 24 17:52
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Apparently something changed in Widevine and started crashing Firefox's Widevine sandbox, which, in turn, crashed Firefox.Feb 24 20:07
DaemonFC[m]:)Feb 24 20:07
DaemonFC[m]Of course if you had Widevine turned off, that couldn't happen.Feb 24 20:08
DaemonFC[m]Calling Vivaldi a blob is sort of ridiculous in light of Firefox being what it is now.Feb 24 20:08
DaemonFC[m]Another trojan horse for Widevine, which is part of the browser, and a blob.Feb 24 20:08
DaemonFC[m]The bulk of Vivaldi (Chromium) is open source, just as "the bulk" of Firefox is open source.Feb 24 20:09
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi's proprietary bits are basically the user interface.Feb 24 20:09
DaemonFC[m]Someone could do the same thing with Chromium. Vivaldi is not exactly a huge company.Feb 24 20:10
DaemonFC[m]Their CEO alluded to that when he said Opera switching to Chromium was very unfortunate, but Vivaldi uses Chromium because it wouldn't be feasible for a small company to write an entire web engine from scratch.Feb 24 20:11
DaemonFC[m]Obviously, Opera would never give a competitor the rights to Presto, so that's dead.Feb 24 20:11
DaemonFC[m]It appears that the modifications to Chromium go beyond the UI somewhat because web pages just look better in Vivaldi for whatever reason.Feb 24 20:12
DaemonFC[m]Attention to detail.Feb 24 20:12
DaemonFC[m]They're obviously not terribly interested in feeding their users to Google. Which is why the Google hooks have been removed.Feb 24 20:13
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi has their own sync system. Unfortunately the default search is bing because that's most of their revenue.Feb 24 20:13
DaemonFC[m]I'm spitballing here, but probably privacy is better in Vivaldi than in Chrome because Vivaldi is subject to European data privacy regulations.Feb 24 20:14
DaemonFC[m]Bing isn't.Feb 24 20:14
DaemonFC[m]Qwant and DuckDuckGo are some of the search engines included, and DDG is the default search in Incognito Mode.Feb 24 20:15
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that being incorporated in the US, Mozilla has been approached by the US government and forced to backdoor at least their sync system.Feb 24 20:16
DaemonFC[m]The US has all kinds of horrible shit for laws.Feb 24 20:16
DaemonFC[m]I'm also pretty sure that GNU IceCat probably disables the Sync code precisely because we have no idea what happens on Mozilla's server.Feb 24 20:16
DaemonFC[m]Since Mozilla doesn't support the user encrypting their Sync data with a different passphrase than their user account, that means Mozilla can definitely be forced to hand over decrypted data about you.Feb 24 20:21
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Your argument reminds me of that Canonical guy who argued that Edge is mostly FOSS, because Chromium is and the Microsoft's patches for its "core".Feb 24 20:21
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: Will you agree to a comparison that Vivaldi is pretty much FOSS as much as Edge is :)Feb 24 20:22
DaemonFC[m]Since your Vivaldi account can have a different passphrase, and the data is stored in Europe, you have better privacy jurisdiction, and your Vivaldi.net email account is in Norway as well, which not only decouples it from Google and their ad system, but again, PRISM.Feb 24 20:23
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure there's a million ways to skin a cat, but getting away from Google is good regardless.Feb 24 20:23
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86: Microsofft is PRISM too, so using Edge just gets you out of Google's frying pan and into Microsoft's fire.Feb 24 20:24
XRevan86So that's why they're called "cookies"…Feb 24 20:25
DaemonFC[m]According to a PowerPoint slide published in 2014, at that time Google and Microsoft were responsible for 98% of the data coming into the NSA's illegal domestic spying program.Feb 24 20:26
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi is in Europe and probably too small to approach directly. If you're actually incorporated in the US, you're not on solid ground there.Feb 24 20:27
DaemonFC[m]SESTA/JOSTA supposedly passed under "Something, something, human trafficking." but it's really a tool to threaten tech companies with if they don't participate "voluntarily" in PRISM. The government will scrape you and find something that involves prostitution and then nail you to the wall.Feb 24 20:28
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: I wonder if you have an opinion on another Chromium derivative, the Thong browserFeb 24 20:28
DaemonFC[m]Errr, FOSTA rather.Feb 24 20:28
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Yandex.Browser_icon.svgFeb 24 20:28
DaemonFC[m]Oh, Russia. That's better.Feb 24 20:29
DaemonFC[m]Is there a way to make it so Tor Browser doesn't ever route anything through a node in the United States?Feb 24 20:30
DaemonFC[m]In theory, unless your Guard Node is compromised and they decrypt the information, you're okay, but I doubt that Tor is flawless.Feb 24 20:31
DaemonFC[m]Using Tor on a VPN might be better, and it might be worse.Feb 24 20:31
DaemonFC[m]If your VPN hides you from a malicious Guard Node, then doesn't record anything about you using Tor, you're better off.Feb 24 20:32
DaemonFC[m]But if they are watching you, then you're worse off because your Guard Node will send the data through your VPN, which knows who you are, and they can be forced to share it with a nation state attacker.Feb 24 20:32
DaemonFC[m]In practice, the US typically attacks Tor Browser itself, and it's reluctant to pursue most criminal cases that would involve burning a 0day, so they tend to go after stragglers using an older Tor browser who haven't updated in a while, using a vulnerability that was patched months ago.Feb 24 20:34
DaemonFC[m]Using the latest version obviously doesn't guarantee your safety, but it does help.Feb 24 20:34
DaemonFC[m]The odds of them burning a 0day just to get little old you are small unless you've done something to really piss them off.Feb 24 20:35
DaemonFC[m]And for god's sake, turn off Javascript and active content.Feb 24 20:35
DaemonFC[m]Well, most of the attacks that involve something we know about have been old vulnerabilities, usually with Javascript or HTML 5 Media, or plug-ins that they shouldn't have installed.Feb 24 20:37
DaemonFC[m]Criminals are stupid.Feb 24 20:37
DaemonFC[m]It is interesting that Edward Snowden managed to get himself caught.Feb 24 20:37
DaemonFC[m]Couldn't he have leaked all of this in a way where, to quote R. Lee Ermey it was the fairy fucking godmother did it?Feb 24 20:38
DaemonFC[m]Something about this just smells funny.Feb 24 20:39
DaemonFC[m]Like the government really wanted it to leak so people knew what they can do and stifle themselves.Feb 24 20:39
DaemonFC[m]Chinese government doesn't make a secret out of the Great Firewall and stuff. They want people to know they're being watched.Feb 24 20:40
DaemonFC[m]Why would our government be any different?Feb 24 20:40
MinceRdifferent tacticsFeb 24 20:41
MinceRdifferent self-imageFeb 24 20:41
DaemonFC[m]In China, the oppression is just downright palpable because they have no need to hide what they really are because they want you to be terrified.Feb 24 20:42
DaemonFC[m]The US is definitely moving in that direction.Feb 24 20:42
MinceRthere's still a lot of bullshitting about "muh freedumz" in the USA thoughFeb 24 20:42
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, well, journalists (what's left of them) don't disappear here.Feb 24 20:43
DaemonFC[m]It would be a little obvious.Feb 24 20:43
DaemonFC[m]It just so happened that all of the ones that were reporting the news were fired all at once from every network.Feb 24 20:43
DaemonFC[m]That happened in 2003 though.Feb 24 20:43
DaemonFC[m]It's wall to wall "Bernie can't win." then heads explode because who knew the polls were so fake and he has appeal to people who are sick and tired of this bullshit.Feb 24 20:46
MinceRthat one site certainly made it sound like the "democrats" are planning to steal their own primaries even harder this timeFeb 24 20:53
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I have nicknames for Biden and Buttigieg that I taunt their few remaining supporters with.Feb 24 21:02
DaemonFC[m]Shotgun Joe and Pete Butt Gags.Feb 24 21:02
MinceR:)Feb 24 21:03
DaemonFC[m]Biden answered one of his hecklers several years ago by saying you don't need an AR-15 because you can just fire a shotgun through the door at someone.Feb 24 21:04
DaemonFC[m]Both barrels.Feb 24 21:04
DaemonFC[m]And Buttigieg is a gay man with Butt in his name, so lots of people joke about it.Feb 24 21:05
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MinceR:)Feb 24 21:06
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yes, Firefox sucks nowFeb 24 21:14
schestowitzI hardly touch itFeb 24 21:14
DaemonFC[m]And let's face it, Sanders is the only candidate here who stands any chance who hasn't done anything extremely ****ed up to black people.Feb 24 21:14
DaemonFC[m]Biden said shoot em with a shotgun and Bloomberg Stop 'n Frisk because there's a "very obvious criminal element and we all know who it is" want black people voting for them.Feb 24 21:14
DaemonFC[m]It's like that song. "Biden said shoot; Bloomberg said frisk 'em!".Feb 24 21:14
DaemonFC[m]This is a fucking shit show.Feb 24 21:29
DaemonFC[m]I can't believe that there's even a sizable minority who want Biden, much less that anyone thought this idiot would be the frontrunner.Feb 24 21:30
DaemonFC[m]Mincer "Bye-den and Butt Gag".Feb 24 21:30
DaemonFC[m]> DaemonFC: yes, Firefox sucks nowFeb 24 21:31
DaemonFC[m]They got Wayland support mostly under control but it still glitches sometimes.Feb 24 21:31
DaemonFC[m]Opens maximized but the page renders in a quarter of the screen until your fuck with the window.Feb 24 21:32
DaemonFC[m]It's like what the hell is this crap.Feb 24 21:32
MinceRwayland itself is a bug :>Feb 24 21:32
DaemonFC[m]I just found a bug in Opus.Feb 24 21:35
DaemonFC[m]https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/f8tizk/us_supreme_court_turns_away_religious_bias_claim/Feb 24 21:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | U.S. Supreme Court turns away religious bias claim against Walgreens - theists blocked from making unreasonable demands on businesses to accommodate their beliefs. : atheismFeb 24 21:45
DaemonFC[m]I said, Start requesting a bizarre and unreasonable schedule to accommodate your Flying Spaghetti Monster worship and then sue them for $50 million when they won't be reasonable.Feb 24 21:45
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/653821.jpgFeb 24 21:47
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MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/654065.jpgFeb 24 22:01
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.businessinsider.com/web-browsers-privacy-concerns-chrome-firefox-safari-edge-yandex-2020-2Feb 24 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | These web browsers are sending companies your history or personal data - Business InsiderFeb 24 23:01
DaemonFC[m]Edge and Yandex were rated the worst browsers for privacy. Feb 24 23:01
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MinceRhttps://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/im_shocked.gifFeb 24 23:10
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XRevan86Wanted to joke about Mail.Ru Internet, but it's Mail.Ru Atom nowFeb 24 23:11
MinceRoohFeb 24 23:12
XRevan86they rename their browser faster than I can followFeb 24 23:12
XRevan86People probably still think it's AmigoFeb 24 23:12
MinceRthey caught up to microsloth's methods?Feb 24 23:12
MinceR(if it sucks, and everybody knows it sucks, just rename it)Feb 24 23:12
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19120716Feb 24 23:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectFeb 24 23:13
XRevan86MinceR: yesFeb 24 23:13
XRevan86Oh my, it's on a domain browser.ruFeb 24 23:14
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XRevan86MinceR: At least Microsoft thinks up better names though.Feb 24 23:17
XRevan86or rather, more original namesFeb 24 23:17
MinceRdo they?Feb 24 23:17
XRevan86"better" is not the termFeb 24 23:17
*XRevan86 remembered about TeamsFeb 24 23:18
MinceRsomeone managed to outdo microsloth in blandness of branding?Feb 24 23:18
XRevan86MinceR: I retract thatFeb 24 23:18
MinceRlolFeb 24 23:18
XRevan86"Atom" is slightly worse though %)Feb 24 23:18
XRevan86Intel Atom, Atom feeds, Atom.io (RIP)…Feb 24 23:19
MinceRyeah, Rot In PiecesFeb 24 23:21
XRevan86After 5 episodes of ST:Picard I can say that it's better than Discovery.Feb 24 23:25
XRevan86But it's… it's… kinda boring.Feb 24 23:25
XRevan86And technobabble is so darn lengthly, just like in Discovery.Feb 24 23:26
XRevan86And just as meaningless and bullshitFeb 24 23:26
XRevan86At least in TNG non-sense was quick and short.Feb 24 23:27
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "(if it sucks, and everybody know"> 20 years laterFeb 24 23:29
DaemonFC[m]<XRevan86 "At least in TNG non-sense was qu"> Plot device to quickly explain something away.Feb 24 23:30
XRevan86In Discovery and Picard it's explaining something for 10 minutes straightFeb 24 23:30
XRevan86I keep expecting a character to ask for a glass of waterFeb 24 23:31
XRevan86Maybe if exposition were shorter, better delievered or just more stimulating, it would've worked much better.Feb 24 23:32
DaemonFC[m]Exposition via asshole throwaway Starfleet admiral lady.Feb 24 23:40
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