●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 24, 2022 ●● ● Jun 24 [00:45] TR News The Psychological Core Of Denver gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1033 [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 24 [01:05] TR News systemd-oomd issues on desktop https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-June/042159.html [01:05] TR Bot systemd-oomd issues on desktop [01:06] TR News The software operator design pattern: advantages - part 4 | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-4 Source: ubuntu [01:06] TR Bot software operator design pattern: advantages part 4 | Ubuntu [01:06] TR News What Is a Stream Deck and Should a Non-Gamer Buy One - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-stream-deck/ Source: maketecheasier [01:06] TR Bot What Is a Stream Deck and Should a Non-Gamer Buy One - Make Tech Easier [01:19] TR News "In this article, we are going to see how to set the mouse cursor from bitmap using the PyGame module in Python." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/pygame-set-mouse-cursor-from-bitmap/ [01:19] TR Bot PyGame Set Mouse Cursor from Bitmap - GeeksforGeeks [01:20] TR News 10 useful vim shortcuts https://catonmat.net/top-10-vim-shortcuts [01:20] TR Bot 10 useful vim shortcuts [01:21] TR News DIP1000: Memory Safety in a Modern System Programming Language Pt. 1 https://dlang.org/blog/2022/06/21/dip1000-memory-safety-in-a-modern-system-programming-language-pt-1/ [01:21] TR Bot DIP1000: Memory Safety in a Modern System Programming Language Pt. 1 | The D Blog [01:22] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D622.jpg [01:22] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D271.jpg [01:23] TR News Sticky Notes and Learning Rust gemini://moddedbear.xyz/logs/2022-06-23-sticky-notes-and-learning-rust.gmi [01:24] TR News Lups now counts about 2550 capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi [01:42] DaemonFC I got some natural peanut butter. It was horrible. I almost threw it out except I decided to make peanut butter cookies out of it. [01:43] DaemonFC DaemonFC: sooner or later buyers might put a gnuj/linux distto on those? [01:43] DaemonFC It's possible I guess. [01:43] DaemonFC In any event, Microsoft is very concerned. [01:45] schestowitz_TR right.. [01:45] schestowitz_TR next week we see July numbers [01:45] schestowitz_TR foir market share [01:45] schestowitz_TR expect windows to fall some more [01:46] schestowitz_TR laptop sales have not been good [01:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:55] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Jun 24 [02:06] TR News Installing and Using Rich Package in Python https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/installing-and-using-rich-package-in-python/ Source: geeksforgeeks [02:06] TR Bot Installing and Using Rich Package in Python - GeeksforGeeks [02:07] TR News Michael Geist: My Appearance Before the Senate Transport and Communications Committee on Bill C-11: The Senate Starts Review As Bill Receives House Approval https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/06/my-appearance-before-the-senate-transport-and-communications-committee-on-bill-c-11-the-senate-starts-review-as-bill-receives-house-approval/ [02:07] TR Bot My Appearance Before the Senate Transport and Communications Committee on Bill C-11: The Senate Starts Review As Bill Receives House Approval - Michael Geist [02:13] TR News EPO Staff Surveys Preliminary Results Published (Almost 2,000 Staff Surveyed), Antnio Campinos Less Trustworthy Than Benot Battistelli at Similar Points in Their Terms | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/staff-survey-of-the-epo-is-out/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/23/staff-survey-of-the-epo-is-out/ [02:13] TR Bot EPO Staff Surveys Preliminary Results Published (Almost 2,000 Staff Surveyed), Antnio Campinos Less Trustworthy Than Benot Battistelli at Similar Points in Their Terms | Techrights [02:17] TR News Selected Slides From Technologias EPO Staff Survey (2022 Compared to Prior Years) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/technologia-slides/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/23/technologia-slides/ [02:17] TR Bot Selected Slides From Technologias EPO Staff Survey (2022 Compared to Prior Years) | Techrights [02:23] fuzzy i think pentagon windows os isn't concerned about windows market share itself, they are concerned about control and dominance by USA over global markets and controlling users [02:25] fuzzy got some time to spare, woke up 3o'clock, enjoying the silence in the city, and a breeze of fresh air during summer with windows wide open [02:25] fuzzy no cars, no noise [02:26] schestowitz_TR good [02:26] schestowitz_TR better if you live far from a road [02:26] fuzzy gnu autoconf failed with a toolchain stage build a moment ago... which is somewhat annoying [02:26] schestowitz_TR then you can hear birds too [02:27] fuzzy need to start the toolchain build including gcc, which takes another 3hours before i can continue [02:29] fuzzy then, 7hours ahead, i am invited for an interview at the employment agency [02:30] TR News [Meme] Council Says... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/23/epo-admin-council-says/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/23/epo-admin-council-says/ [02:30] TR Bot [Meme] Council Says | Techrights [02:31] fuzzy yesterday, i did some housekeeping, after pulling into the latest gentoo tree and syncing it against the c-only system profile [02:32] fuzzy in parallel, followed german parliament debate, and didn't recover yet from this narcist insanity of theirs [02:32] schestowitz_TR DaemonFC: maybe 'secure' boot would stand in their way [02:32] fuzzy yesterday, they announced "Energy Gas Shortage Emergency" phase two in Germany [02:32] schestowitz_TR supported by mr. security ;-) [02:32] DaemonFC Putting it in Developer Mode inherently disables that. [02:32] schestowitz_TR I gave a security lecture toa hospital when I was 22 [02:32] schestowitz_TR and was in fact a computer scientist already [02:33] schestowitz_TR didn't study genetics though ;-) [02:33] DaemonFC Google has done far less than Apple or Microsoft have to get in your way of liberating a Chromebook. It's much harder to remove Windows these days than it is Chrome OS. [02:33] schestowitz_TR Royal Eye Hospital [02:33] schestowitz_TR the apporoach of wipe on rewboot is a joke [02:33] schestowitz_TR with a roaming profile [02:33] schestowitz_TR that might itself contain malware [02:34] schestowitz_TR so you get the malware back in your clown "drivce" [02:34] fuzzy vendors too fiddle with Chromebook (ARM) boot firmware [02:34] fuzzy and the ATF [02:34] schestowitz_TR of course they do :-) [02:35] fuzzy often there is two options, to download the binary vendor firmware, which both is suspicious, and often doesn't reveal some internal configuration details for the opensource uboot firmware [02:35] schestowitz_TR DaemonFC: at 44 or thereabouts he brags about giving lectures [02:35] schestowitz_TR as a kid at 22 IU was already giving lectures [02:35] schestowitz_TR toi igh-profile audiences [02:35] schestowitz_TR they invited me [02:35] DaemonFC https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/691960628369424394/989507184096313344/unknown.jpeg [02:35] schestowitz_TR I still have many slides online [02:35] schestowitz_TR but might take me time to find them [02:35] fuzzy then those vendor try to trick consumers into downloading, for example, some binary image for DRAM init, instead of publishing the DRAM specification [02:36] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166418 [02:36] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [02:36] fuzzy same with the IntelME, which is required for exactly this, DRAM init, and remains closed-source, even when coreboot is flashed onto an intel board [02:36] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-230622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-230622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-230622.txt [02:36] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022 [02:36] fuzzy similar situation with many (not all) ARM/Chrombooks [02:37] fuzzy then, often, graphics init requires some driver and/or firmware, or you got no or limited graphics support [02:37] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-230622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-230622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-230622.txt [02:38] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022 [02:39] *Guest1686 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-230622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-230622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-230622.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 23, 2022 [02:39] TR News "The piece means something to me, and maybe one other person in this world. Sentimental memories shared with a once close friend, whom it originally belonged to. The friend is a friend no longer, that bridge long burned. Persons no longer who they once were, yet the tokens of seniment, glass and memory, remain." gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-23-lizard.gmi [02:40] fuzzy and i think, all GPS receivers, contain firmware too, including an entire isolated tiny embedded operating system within [02:40] schestowitz_TR hi, Guest1686 [02:40] Guest1686 Hi [02:40] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/alexa-to-add-voices-of-your-deceased-loved-ones/ [02:40] TR Bot Alexa to add voices of your deceased loved ones | WGN-TV [02:40] DaemonFC Alexa can now add items to the shopping list in the voice of your dead Aunt. [02:40] schestowitz_TR new ways to market listening devices [02:40] schestowitz_TR bezos and evil empire ;_) [02:41] schestowitz_TR using people posthumously for spying [02:41] fuzzy as soon as a chrombook is equipped with WiFi or GPS, certainly some firmware is implanted somewhere [02:41] schestowitz_TR chromebooks uses proprietary haredware [02:41] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:41] schestowitz_TR and user-hostile, too [02:42] fuzzy when developing the c-only system profile and firmware for my cortex a53 boards (typical chromebook or smartphone hardware), too i checked documentation and various android firmware images for those boards [02:42] fuzzy couldn't say any android would meet bare minimum acceptance criteria [02:43] DaemonFC John Connor: "There's something wrong with Janelle. She's never this nice." T-800: "What is the dog's name?" John: "Max" T-800 in John's voice: "Hey Janelle, what's wrong with Wolfie? I can hear him crying. Is everything okay?" T-1000 as Janelle: "Everything's fine dear, everything's just fine. Where are you?" *camera pans out to the T-1000 having stabbed the step-dad through the throat* T-800 hangs up: "Your foster parents are dead!". [02:43] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [02:43] DaemonFC The new Alexa. [02:43] DaemonFC "There's something wrong with Grandma Harmon. She's never this nice!" [02:43] fuzzy chatbot scripting again? [02:44] DaemonFC I really liked that movie. I don't know. [02:44] DaemonFC I've probably seen it at least ten times. [02:44] Guest1686 Was my bot sending too many messages? [02:44] fuzzy no [02:44] fuzzy not yours [02:45] Guest1686 (I mean the _9pfs-pylink one) [02:45] Guest1686 Actually its username is pylink-_9pfs [02:45] Guest1686 Hard to remember bot usernames. [02:45] fuzzy currently i don't see any pylink-_9pfs had joined the channel [02:46] Guest1686 Check the ban list, or logs from about 2 days ago. [02:46] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/yelp-closing-3-offices-including-chicago-says-remote-work-is-its-future/ [02:46] TR Bot Yelp closing 3 offices including Chicago, says remote work is its future | WGN-TV [02:46] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR, Yelp doing layoffs in disguise, pulling out of Chicago. [02:47] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [02:48] DaemonFC At least those that are left will be working from home where they won't be spewing Carbon Monoxide, NO2, and O3 everywhere and running up the price of gas for everyone. [02:50] schestowitz_TR Guest1686: YOUR BOTS FLOODED THE CHANNEL [02:50] schestowitz_TR oops [02:50] schestowitz_TR caps by accident [02:50] Guest1686 Sorry, how bad was it? [02:50] schestowitz_TR anyway, I had to block them [02:50] Guest1686 Okay. [02:50] schestowitz_TR in the process I accidentally kicked a longtime member [02:50] schestowitz_TR so you caused us problems [02:50] Guest1686 Sorry. [02:50] schestowitz_TR DaemonFC: seems michael larabel lives in chicago [02:50] schestowitz_TR but a nice part of it [02:51] schestowitz_TR oor near chicago [02:51] schestowitz_TR he said he pays $110 for unlimited broadband [02:51] schestowitz_TR that's insane, it's like 3-4 times more than we pay [02:51] schestowitz_TR but maybe he has fibre [02:51] schestowitz_TR though that too does not cost much here [02:54] mjg59_ Internet access is significantly more expensive in the US than in most of Europe [02:54] mjg59_ I'm fortunate in having a local ISP that only charges $45 a month [02:54] fuzzy internet is certainly more costly in rural areas than in urban regions [02:54] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [02:55] fuzzy the infrastructure, topology, to pull cables into every little village somewhere, that's expensive [02:56] fuzzy yesterday, vodafone called me, again, for 10th time, among million internet contracts, i am probably the only customer who refused to "upgrade" [02:57] fuzzy 32mbit/2mbit i got, however, i reject the new contracts, which permit the ISP to do carrier-grade NAT (CGN) for IPv4 [02:58] mjg59_ Even in a lot of built up areas, the cable infrastructure is an effective monopoly [02:58] mjg59_ AT&T are trying to get rid of their traditional phone network, so there are rural areas where you can't even get DSL [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.20 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [02:59] fuzzy mjg59_: i studied at Deutsche Telekom btw. [02:59] fuzzy historically, the Telco networks were different to "the internet" ● Jun 24 [03:00] fuzzy AT&T, Telekom etc., they operated SYNCHRONOUS circuit switched networks [03:00] fuzzy which is another reaons, why it was "monopoly" and supposedly "expensive" [03:00] mjg59_ Yes I understand the difference between circuit switching and packet switching [03:01] fuzzy not saying synchronous circuit switching, globally, is necessary, just saying this is what AT&T/Telekom etc. offered [03:02] fuzzy X.25 is another such service (older than the internet), which was common in critical infrastructure, such as railway [03:04] fuzzy around year 2000, Telco was "liberalized", 20years later german railways is complaining about infrastructure issues [03:04] TR News Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Increased 68.44% So Far This Month https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/number-of-covid-19-patients-in-hospital-increased-68-44-so-far-this-month/ [03:04] TR Bot Blog Archive Number of COVID-19 Patients in Hospital Increased 68.44% So Far This Month [03:05] fuzzy anyway, in a few hours, i shall talk about my employment prospects, and income situation at the employment agency [03:05] schestowitz_TR you have career opportunities [03:06] schestowitz_TR but need to talk less about politics [03:06] fuzzy and a lung full of nicotine and dust [03:06] schestowitz_TR when youy de-registered you had everyone kicked from #techpol [03:06] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 236154 total Total number of pages in capsule: 41289 Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 3 weeks 6 days ago [03:06] schestowitz_TR which caused quite a scene [03:07] fuzzy doubt it [03:07] fuzzy there is no activity there [03:07] fuzzy and i am not involved with politics [03:07] schestowitz_TR I have a colleague who confronts and wattcks others [03:07] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. [03:07] schestowitz_TR after getting caust off guard [03:07] schestowitz_TR missing incidents and such [03:08] schestowitz_TR I think we might remove him soon [03:08] fuzzy sorry, sometimes my mind snaps into psychosis, given the insanity, lies and corruption [03:08] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:10] IPFS QmTweJ4nXQtfXHVgJZdLDGsqQhGfYUadfZnLsNyG957hjX [03:10] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:10] *Guest1686 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:11] fuzzy btw., many security issues are moot to discuss, with X.25 in critical infrastructure [03:11] fuzzy hackers and script kiddies simply had no access to it [03:11] fuzzy although, i stumbled upon some reports, SS7 network was pentested, and the IMSI catcher fun [03:12] fuzzy nonetheless, the telco networks were relatively stable and reliable [03:13] mjg59_ That's not really how it works [03:13] mjg59_ These days almost everything is connected to something that speaks IP [03:14] mjg59_ You're not going to be able to speak X.25 to something directly over the internet, sure [03:14] mjg59_ But that just means you have to breach something that's bridging them [03:14] TR News "Does what I do here make a difference in other peoples lives? In my life? Is this still scratching the creative itch that it used to? And if not, what needs to change? Where does kottke.org end and Jason begin?" -Kottke, on Sabbatical [03:15] fuzzy another interesting aspect of Telekom/AT&T engineering, not business, Telco engineering [03:16] *Guest1686 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [03:16] fuzzy it covered more than what the usual internet/software crowd was aware of [03:16] fuzzy for example, at AT&T/Telekom, scientists, are far more occupied with mathematics, and electronics [03:17] fuzzy signal processing, encoding schemes [03:17] fuzzy which is why, i think, WiFi chips are almost always blobbed and locked [03:18] fuzzy what's freely available, i think, Hayes 300 modem is a good start, to implement both hardware and software [03:19] fuzzy i wasn't offended btw.; by the priorities of "free software", it was only irritating those were missing most of what was relevant at Telekom [03:21] fuzzy got AX.25 with softmodem (via soundcard) on todo for review, as a hobbyist project to entertain myself while "unemployed" [03:22] fuzzy btw.; digital scopes, are awful, it's all proprietary locked-down systems [03:23] fuzzy many got some Xilinx Spartan chip for DSP stuff, however, for Xilinx, if at all anyone reached there, a monstrosity of microsoft windows software is necessary [03:24] fuzzy that's why, the ancient X.25/Z80 era systems remain interesting [03:28] fuzzy i didn't receive any "energy bonus payment" in germany either, because i am not employed [03:28] fuzzy in the recent 5years, i collected a protocol plotted onto fanfeed paper for the applications letters i sent [03:29] fuzzy it is a few dozen meters long [03:29] fuzzy after 4years, i am invited now, to "discuss the employment situation" of mine [03:31] fuzzy if i wasn't "cooperative" the income will be reduced by 10%, gradually down to zero [03:36] fuzzy recently, politicians boasted about Intel, planning to construct some silicon Fab [03:37] fuzzy i think, they got no idea whom they are dealing with [03:37] DaemonFC https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2022/6/21/23177687/speed-cameras-threshold-raised-chicago-city-council-finance-committee-vote [03:37] TR Bot Lightfoot loses vote on speed cameras; final Council vote on Wednesday - Chicago Sun-Times [03:37] DaemonFC One woman said one of the speed cameras got her going to Starbucks and on the way back, and it turned into a $75 trip for coffee. [03:37] fuzzy government will subsidize this intel fab with 1billion, another few billions were dumped into a Bosch Fab [03:38] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR, Serves her right for getting in the car and burning gas to Starbucks and back. [03:38] DaemonFC Who the hell can't put coffee and water into some sort of, gee, call it a coffee maker, at home? [03:39] DaemonFC They sell everything you need to make coffee at the grocery store. [03:39] DaemonFC Milk, sugar, coffee. [03:39] DaemonFC Then there is coffee. [03:39] DaemonFC You don't need to be that asshole who drives to Starbucks and crosses a picket line to pay $7 for a coffee. [03:39] DaemonFC You really don't. [03:40] DaemonFC I can't believe how much Starbucks is panicking about this labor union thing. [03:41] DaemonFC They already sell cups of coffee at 15 times what their input prices are. That's labor, the materials, the cup, the energy, the rent for their stores. [03:41] DaemonFC They use bulk purchasing power to get it super cheap. [03:42] DaemonFC And to get it cheaper they have another idea now. They're going to make their customers pay a reusable cup deposit that they get credited back when they return the cup to have it refilled. [03:43] DaemonFC That way they can make the customers pay for these reusable cups and they don't have to buy disposable cups anymore. They can sterilize them and then you just get another cup and go on your way. [03:43] DaemonFC But the really sneaky part of this is if you can get a reusable cup into the hands of your customers, then you get more repeat business. [03:43] DaemonFC Because they feel "buy in" into a system. [03:43] DaemonFC So it's like these reusable razor handles. [03:44] DaemonFC Yes, you save money on each blade after you own one, but you can only use their blades with it. [03:44] DaemonFC Being better for the environment? Maybe a little. I mean, they don't need the disposable cup anymore, but.... [03:44] DaemonFC The real damage to the environment is coming from the coffee itself. [03:45] DaemonFC Most of the cups are either recycled or made from trees that were planted in order to be harvested for paper later. [03:45] fuzzy most trees are cut down to plant Palm Oil trees, sugar plants etc... to produce "bio fuels" from [03:45] DaemonFC But coffee growing is under huge pressure to be cheap, and that pressure promotes things like slash and burn farming and desertification, which are the major problems that Starbucks causes. [03:46] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR, Did you read the latest Billshit? [03:46] DaemonFC Giant space bubbles as a Lagrangian Point Satellite. [03:47] DaemonFC The idea is basically this giant space umbrella that stops some solar radiation so we can just keep polluting. [03:47] DaemonFC I mean, this is so contrived and nobody will ever do it. [03:51] fuzzy historically the dispute, between AT&T, Unix, BSD and Linux, it is interesting, because, the dispute didn't cover what's relevant to the core business of Telco engineering and science [03:51] fuzzy of cause, bsd/linux/unix, however you want to namecall this sector, it is important [03:52] fuzzy however, it is not the core business of telco and science [03:52] fuzzy such as, for example, a Ti89 type graphing calculator [03:53] fuzzy don't ask me, where the knowledge and schematics are bit-rotting few decades later [03:53] fuzzy the TexasInstruments software was not opensource, never [03:54] fuzzy it's just, pointing into another direction, than what's typically discussed with "free software" [03:57] fuzzy and, that's why, i find RMS confusing occasionally, because his office at MIT was located close nearby some other departments of his university [03:57] fuzzy which is, at MIT, signal processing and electronics are lectured too [03:58] fuzzy anyway, USA is far away, and after 1990, the east-german telco-university was, how should i say, hijacked by the typical US-corporate product portfolio [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 4.81 average k/sec., average swarm size 227.41 [03:59] fuzzy in politics, dominated by "the west", who are the 80% majority in germany, they introduced a mindset of arrogance, of the victorious, to dictate terms [03:59] fuzzy what they had forgotten: east-germany (not glorifying this), got the entire semiconductor business up and running 1990 ● Jun 24 [04:00] fuzzy east-germany could manufacture all parts for Z80 equivalents, main CPU, serial and parellel io chips, i mean everything, the entire portfolio [04:00] fuzzy including various transistors and parts [04:00] fuzzy east-germany could produce all of it, 30years ago [04:06] fuzzy magnetic tapes, line printers, screens, everything was produced, domestically, with universities nearby maintaining scientific libraries [04:07] fuzzy coordinated, by the "Academy of Science" (formerly known as prussian academy of science), and the central committee [04:08] fuzzy what survived the 1990 turmoil, was the central committee mindset and political dictate, the semiconductor business disappeared [04:09] fuzzy and i remember some rumors, of industrial facilities moving further east, such as Czech Republic [04:10] Guest1686 What is the maximum speed for a bot to send messages on this network? Just checking. [04:13] *Techrights-sec has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [04:14] *Techrights-sec (~quassel@freenode-ganu55.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [04:18] fuzzy anyway, this was another vision, to utilize ordinary audio-chips inside typical consumer hardware [04:19] fuzzy to implement some software-modem stuff, and transmit AX.25 packet radio with this [04:20] fuzzy in theory, remaining conservative, 10KHz bandwith should be possible, somehow, which equates to 5KBps on shared medium [04:21] fuzzy close to hayes 300 era data rates [04:21] fuzzy some type of free software guerillia packet radio... if there isn't any opensource wifi hardware [04:22] fuzzy OSI layer1 and OSI layer2... [04:22] fuzzy most of what "free software" copes with is the higher OSI layers [04:23] fuzzy at physical and link layer, which is the realm of telco engineering and science, BSD/Linux etc. got little to say [04:24] fuzzy same with both digital and analog circuitry, and i do not feel confident with the typical CAD tooling [04:24] fuzzy a list of books and literature, pencil and paper, should suffice, almost [04:26] fuzzy recently, i noticed again, something went wrong with TeXlive, and TeTex isn't maintained anymore [04:26] fuzzy the maintainer quit, because of bloat [04:27] fuzzy because, books, need to be written, and i do not want to write any or typeset with microsoft windows type software [04:27] fuzzy with unix troff (groff), some problem was, GNU troff, it required c++ somewhere, so i removed it [04:28] fuzzy the ancient troff implementation, was difficult to compile, i didn't consider this anymore [04:28] fuzzy however, i found neatroff... cannot say yet if this suffices for some typesetting of maths and formulas [04:28] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:30] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@hcdms2vr9hu9e.irc) has joined #techrights [04:40] fuzzy seems to be some historical unix stuff, troff, eqn [04:41] fuzzy i don't know, what to think of this... because when i began studying year 2001 [04:41] fuzzy "microsoft word" already dictated authoring [04:42] fuzzy and the GNU hacker at german telecom who proposed TeX, this was at a time when TeTex was still maintained [04:42] fuzzy i mean, someone had sponsored staff, to lecture students authoring with microsoft word at university... what a ridiculous joke [04:43] fuzzy they didn't at least mention troff/eqn anymore, at the telco university [04:43] fuzzy too, the telco management had decided, to skip C programming entirely, and given C++ was "standard" already [04:43] fuzzy ITU-T involved too iirc... some microsoft windows IDE with c++ was introduced [04:45] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjjPlEW9bRM [04:45] TR Bot https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=wjjPlEW9bRM [04:45] fuzzy thing is, with telecom _management_, besides the western mindset of historical victory [04:45] TR Bot invidious.snopyta.org | George Carlin - Balance the Budget - Invidious [04:47] fuzzy i mean, this nonsense was arranged for, directly in german telecom headquarter somewhere, to lecture students [04:48] fuzzy few days ago, Deutsche Telekom announced they got 1Terrabit optical fibre ready [04:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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protection contractor CSC Global sent Minor" https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/23/23180178/bungie-destiny-lawsuit-youtube-fake-dmca-copyright-notice | Source: The Verge [06:41] TR Bot Bungie sues Destiny YouTuber for sowing chaos with fake copyright strikes - The Verge [06:42] TR News "Operation 404" https://torrentfreak.com/brazils-targets-metaverse-piracy-in-latest-operation-404-crackdown-220623/ | Source: Torrent Freak [06:42] TR Bot Targets 'Metaverse' Piracy in Latest "Operation 404" Crackdown * TorrentFreak [06:42] TR News "A Twitter user who posted copyrighted photos for the purpose of criticizing a private-equity billionaire will retain their anonymity." https://torrentfreak.com/dmca-subpoena-to-unmask-twitter-user-hits-fair-use-constitutional-roadblock-220623/ | Source: Torrent Freak [06:42] TR Bot Subpoena to Unmask Twitter User Hits Fair Use & Constitutional Roadblock * TorrentFreak [06:43] TR News "So you used a certain command but cannot remember its exact name anymore?" 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https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/fanatical-offering-a-nice-bundle-of-steam-deck-verified-games/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:52] TR Bot offering a nice bundle of Steam Deck Verified games | GamingOnLinux [06:53] TR News "Looks like Valve are getting back into fixing up Team Fortress 2" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/team-fortress-2-gets-a-surprise-update-fixing-many-problems/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:53] TR Bot Fortress 2 gets a surprise update fixing many problems | GamingOnLinux [06:53] TR News "The mixture of a deckbuilding roguelike with escape-room style puzzles and psychological horror in Inscryption is now officially available for GNU/Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/inscryption-from-daniel-mullins-games-now-supported-on-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [06:53] TR Bot from Daniel Mullins Games now supported on Linux | GamingOnLinux [06:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:56] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:57] TR News COVID-19 surge in UK 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[08:46] matey you have a phd, this is the most basic statistical shit you could pray for [08:46] matey and the war wont last enough to change birth rates [08:46] matey nor have the past 30 wars [08:46] matey look up a graph [08:47] matey it's not just P-C to say this <- basic math has nothing to do with "pc" or not [08:47] matey the war. doesnt. dent. birthrates. [08:47] matey on any meaningful scale! [08:47] matey its not EVEN A blip [08:47] matey "good for the earth" <- nearly the most ridiculous thing youve ever said [08:48] matey war is good for the planet! -- roy schestowitz [08:48] matey christ on a stick [08:48] matey tank running around aimlessly < new latop [08:48] matey dum dum dum dum dum [08:49] matey sometimes i wonder what gumball machine you get your conclusions from [08:50] matey in ww2 reproduction almost halted for a bit <- then came "boomers"| <- EXACTLY [08:50] matey youre refusting yourself in realtime [08:50] matey -s [08:51] schestowitz_TR after about 50 million died [08:51] matey and then the next generation was bigger than ever [08:51] schestowitz_TR more than 1% of the world's popultion [08:51] matey war doesnt affect population growth [08:51] matey look up the biggest war in terms of deaths ever [08:51] schestowitz_TR plagues can do more [08:51] schestowitz_TR like "black death" [08:51] matey now look at a graph of population growth [08:51] schestowitz_TR not that I recommend of it [08:51] matey they dont compare [08:52] matey plagues seem (mathematically) like a function of overpopulation [08:52] matey if overpopulation (in other species than humans-- NOT to imply that humans are necessarily different this way) [08:52] matey if overpopulation is severe enough [08:52] matey a plague can come along and decimate the species [08:53] matey its tricky to say if that could happen to the human race, but it shouldnt be impossible [08:53] matey sort of like global warming, the problem is a sort of chain reaction of events [08:54] matey global warming can have small causes that trigger disproportional effects on weather / temp conditions [08:54] matey so a few degress can unleash events that change things much much more [08:54] matey when you consider food chain / food supply / various other factors [08:54] matey a plague can have similar devastating multipliers [08:55] matey not that it necessarily will, but its bad enough that its possible [08:55] matey it might be reasonable to say that the more overpopulated humans are, the more out of balance other species will be [08:56] matey and some non-human plague could trigger events that lead to the human populuation falling apart in numbers [08:56] matey maybe. [08:56] matey it wouldnt be pretty [08:56] matey the LESS overpopulated we are, the less ugly that would be [08:56] matey big numbers arent our friend in that scenario, they are the problem exactly [08:57] schestowitz_TR birth rates can fall [08:58] schestowitz_TR when people realise future for kids isn't viable [08:58] matey yeah, but you have to imagine what it would take for enough people to realise that [08:58] schestowitz_TR or when these turn from assets into liability [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:59] matey lol, kids were always a liability [08:59] schestowitz_TR matey: many did realise this [08:59] matey "many" in what proportion [08:59] schestowitz_TR japan, singapore, china, nordic countries... [08:59] matey oh yeah [08:59] matey chinas doing REAL WELL with this [08:59] schestowitz_TR there used to be more tax benefits raising a kid [08:59] schestowitz_TR free college still available in some places ● Jun 24 [09:00] matey chinas population issue is like a guy whos arm is off trying to stick a little bandage on it [09:00] schestowitz_TR Nutritious diet https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/23/paul-and-blackburn-among-gop-senators-opposing-extension-school-meal-program | Source: Common Dreams [09:00] TR Bot Paul and Blackburn Among GOP Senators Opposing Extension of School Meal Program [09:01] schestowitz_TR not sure if the china remark was sarcastic [09:01] matey i bet they cant decide if they want to reel it in so they dont all starve [09:01] matey or if they want to conquor the earth by breeding [09:01] schestowitz_TR collectively, as a nation, they already school a lot of ther world [09:01] schestowitz_TR individually, for people, it is a hellhole [09:01] matey chinas doing REAL WELL with this <- this at least, was sarcastic [09:04] matey plagues are the most likely population reducers, but also the most dangerous [09:05] matey humanity needs an overhaul to survive [09:05] matey capitalism and stalinist bureaucracies are not up to the task [09:05] matey both need to be replaced for humanity to end the tailspin [09:05] matey thats good in a way... because survival necessitates more than reform now [09:06] matey basically we fix this or we die [09:06] matey thats probably the only thing that could ever get us to fix it [09:06] matey and in that sense its a positive [09:06] matey of course if we fail, thats arguably bad [09:06] matey depending who you ask [09:06] matey personally i think fixing it is a good idea [09:07] matey we havent evolved as a society in a while [09:07] matey its about time [09:11] TR News Links 24/06/2022: FidelityFX Free Software and a Look at PetaPi | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/petapi/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/petapi/ [09:11] TR Bot Links 24/06/2022: FidelityFX Free Software and a Look at PetaPi | Techrights [09:19] *liberty_box_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:21] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [09:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[11:27] schestowitz_TR XRevan86: : ooof. dangerous [11:27] schestowitz_TR remember that athelete and lukashenko [11:27] XRevan86 https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/24/a78093 [11:27] TR Bot Ukraine Forces to Retreat From Severodonetsk: Governor - The Moscow Times [11:28] schestowitz_TR retreating from their own country :-( [11:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: I remember well what happened to Protasevich. [11:28] fuzzy in recent days, occasionally had seen vehicles, with ukrainian flag, in germany [11:29] fuzzy some of those cars, of those ukrainians who can afford them, seems to me ukraine isn't as "poor" as portrayed [11:29] fuzzy at least those who arrived with their cars in germany [11:29] fuzzy even by german standards, this isn't poor war refugees [11:30] fuzzy it's just, it is ukrainians who proudly present their poverty and reasons to flee ukraine, by flagging their cars with national pride [11:30] XRevan86 "who proudly present their poverty" <- Really now? [11:30] fuzzy XRevan86: the "energy price" discussion is a political propaganda lie from EU... they are citing EU "spot market" prices [11:31] fuzzy however, german industry and russia negotiated LONG-TERM contracts independant from this "spot market" nonsense [11:31] schestowitz_TR how do you know those are not cars of Germans? [11:31] fuzzy schestowitz_TR: i cannot say for sure, nonetheless they put Ukrainian flags onto their cars [11:31] schestowitz_TR so? [11:32] schestowitz_TR lots of polish sites do too [11:32] schestowitz_TR and americans.. and germans [11:32] schestowitz_TR some have friends in ukraine [11:32] schestowitz_TR or spouse originally from ukraine [11:32] *XRevan86 assumed activelow meant vehicle registration plates, but apparently not. [11:32] schestowitz_TR or from poland [11:32] fuzzy schestowitz_TR: it slightly contradicts the public image drawn by EU propaganda, of "poor" Ukrianians suffering from Russian aggression [11:32] schestowitz_TR ukraine is not a rich country [11:32] XRevan86 It's not rich, but it's not dirt poor either. [11:33] schestowitz_TR the well-off Ukrainians can possibly migrate first [11:33] fuzzy schestowitz_TR: WRONG, ukraine was known as the richest region of former soviet union [11:33] schestowitz_TR like Klitschko brothers [11:33] XRevan86 It wasn't, Latvia was richer for instance. [11:34] fuzzy furthermore, ukraine got rich soil, heavy industry, etc... doesn't mean economy flourished in Ukraine, for whatever reason, and if it is poverty, it is worth to have a look, why.... [11:34] schestowitz_TR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wladimir_Klitschko I thought he was naturalised as Germany [11:34] TR Bot Wladimir Klitschko - Wikipedia [11:34] schestowitz_TR iGerman [11:34] XRevan86 fuzzy: Keep in mind that Ukraine is a mostly agrarian country. [11:34] schestowitz_TR but it says "Ukrainian" [11:34] schestowitz_TR born , Kazakh [11:34] fuzzy XRevan86: wrong, ukraine got scientific institutions, heavy industry, etc. etc. ... and Tchernobyl besides other nuclear plants [11:35] schestowitz_TR he is in the army now [11:35] fuzzy XRevan86: Ukraine was/is the third largest nuclear and military force globally [11:35] XRevan86 fuzzy: It's worth to have a look why combatants from Russia came from regions that are so poor to them Ukraine looked like eldorado. [11:36] fuzzy another fact, about "poor" Ukraine, was, their gas/energy consumption was HIGHEST globally, due to inefficient heating installations etc. [11:36] schestowitz_TR highest per capita? [11:36] fuzzy yes, and alltogether energy consumption was excessive [11:37] XRevan86 fuzzy: Like why can't Buryats live better in Russia? [11:37] fuzzy in particular, Gas [11:39] fuzzy and there was reports, about population living in eastern Ukraine, who are _not_ opposed to Russia [11:40] fuzzy because, meanwhile Kiev flourished as a "boom town", former heavy industry regions in eastern ukraine didn't benefit [11:40] XRevan86 fuzzy: There are reports about population living in eastern Ukraine who are opposed to Russia now that it destroyed their lives. [11:40] fuzzy sure, this is what is reported by EU propaganda [11:41] fuzzy yet, who is at fault? how stupid are those political leaders, who suggest to shoot with heavy artillery at cities? [11:41] XRevan86 It's such EU propaganda I can't use it here because ye don't speak Russian. [11:43] XRevan86 "who suggest to shoot with heavy artillery at cities?" <- Like that: https://suspilne.media/253261-z-dahu-devatipoverhivki-u-harkovi-znali-500-kilogramovu-rosijsku-aviabombu-foto/ ? [11:43] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://suspilne.media/253261-z-dahu-devatipoverhivki-u-harkovi-znali-500-kilogramovu-rosijsku-aviabombu-foto/ ) [11:44] fuzzy XRevan86: there was various reports, Ukraine shot rockets at russians, since 2014 already [11:44] fuzzy some photos, supposedly showing russian artillery in action 2022, were in fact photos taken 2014 already [11:45] matey thats an old trick [11:45] matey the alt-right uses it on youtube all the time [11:45] matey i suspect not only the right, but them i know [11:46] XRevan86 fuzzy: I can't refute "something somewhere", what's your point? [11:47] XRevan86 Russia isn't shelling Kharkiv? Didn't shell Mariupol? Siverodonetsk wasn't shelled? [11:47] fuzzy sorry for the confusion, if there was any; XRevan86, just tried to explain public tv and newspapers are full of propaganda shit, in germany [11:47] fuzzy meanwhile artillery and military gear is asked for in ukraine, to shoot at russians [11:48] XRevan86 fuzzy: There are also reports that DPR resorts to Orwellian tactics and shoots Donetsk themselves to make people fear Ukraine. From Donetsk itself. It became hell a lot more plausible lately since senseless shelling continues while Ukraine faces a shortage in artillery. [11:48] fuzzy and the most recent propaganda lie is citing "EU" "spot market" prices were at fault, which is an outrageous propanda lie, because Russia and German Industry negotiated long-term contracts independent from EU and their "spot market" [11:49] schestowitz_TR fuzzy: can you take it to #techpol ? [11:49] XRevan86 Meanwhile Russia has a shittonne of artillery. [11:49] XRevan86 But that's not proof, just a possibility that hasn't been proven or disproven. [11:49] TR News Stingray https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/stingray-manufacturer-l3harris-seeking-to-acquire-nso-group/ | Source: Techdirt [11:49] TR Bot Manufacturer L3Harris Seeking To Acquire NSO Group | Techdirt [11:49] mjg59_ Woo next we'll be discussing how Russia didn't shoot down MH17 [11:50] TR News Maine https://truthout.org/articles/maine-chipotle-workers-file-to-form-companys-first-ever-union/ | Source: TruthOut [11:50] TR Bot Maine Chipotle Workers File to Form Companys First-Ever Union [11:50] TR News "basically ban email providers from letting political mailings go to spam." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/is-the-gop-pro-political-spam-bill-driven-entirely-by-a-major-gop-spam-factory/ | Source: Techdirt [11:51] TR Bot The GOP Pro-Political Spam Bill Driven Entirely By GOPs Favorite Spam Factory? | Techdirt [11:51] matey sometimes the topic is free software [11:51] matey but since thats mostly been taken over by open source, it comes up less often than it used to [11:51] schestowitz_TR no [11:51] matey yes [11:51] schestowitz_TR we are not about free software [11:51] matey rofl [11:51] schestowitz_TR it was always about more [11:52] schestowitz_TR patents mostly [11:52] schestowitz_TR then software [11:52] schestowitz_TR monopolies [11:52] schestowitz_TR privacy etc. [11:52] schestowitz_TR free software is not even in the site name [11:52] schestowitz_TR noot free* or soft* [11:52] matey Free Software Sentry [11:52] schestowitz_TR RMS suggested it [11:52] XRevan86 mjg59_: I have reason to believe fuzzy does think Russia didn't. [11:52] matey well he was a sucker [11:52] schestowitz_TR because he didn't get a name for the site that would promote his own objective [11:53] matey he should have given the idea to someone who gave a shit about free software instead [11:53] schestowitz_TR free software is becoming one or more issues [11:53] schestowitz_TR in light if attacks on the communication layer [11:53] matey anyway, good to know "we are not about free software" [11:53] fuzzy XRevan86: i only reject the propaganda image of "evil russians" [11:54] matey the russians arent the problem [11:54] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: restarting the client) [11:54] fuzzy furthermore, for decades, documentaries were broadcasted, about russia, many former soviet boxers joined german boxing clubs [11:54] matey its their fucking government [11:54] fuzzy i mean, decades, of this, and now "EU" wants to lecture me about evil russians? [11:54] matey so just so we are clear [11:55] XRevan86 fuzzy: Sure, I don't consider myself evil. Do ye have to employ lies of the Russian propaganda in that? [11:55] matey "techrights" isnt about free software [11:55] matey and the only reason it claims to be "free software sentry" is because rms thought it would be nice to mention "free software" somewhere [11:55] TR News "Democrats have insisted that the two main antitrust bills that have been able to scrape together bipartisan support wont have any impact on content moderation" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/republicans-effectively-admit-that-if-content-moderation-is-written-out-of-antitrust-bills-theyll-pull-their-support/ | Source: Techdirt [11:55] TR Bot Announce That If Content Moderation Is Written Out Of Antitrust Bills, Theyll Pull Their Support | Techdirt [11:55] matey and all the times you implied the site was somehow About That were just bullshit and marketing... [11:55] matey Good To Know [11:55] fuzzy here we go, another detail: imports of Russian gas into USA _increased_ (according to the Sankt Petersburg site)...; now please explain to me why USA/Washington intend to dictate sanctions against Russian gas supplies into germany? [11:55] schestowitz_TR look at 2006 posts [11:56] schestowitz_TR it's about Microsoft-Novell deal [11:56] schestowitz_TR the main issue then was the patents [11:56] schestowitz_TR sowftware patents impact all software developers [11:56] XRevan86 "to the Sankt Petersburg site" <- Just call it fscking Anti-Spiegel. [11:56] schestowitz_TR and harm proprietary software too [11:56] matey ive archived most of the articles from 2006 to 2020 [11:56] matey plus more recent ones [11:57] matey theyre in a single text file where i placed the articles i considered most relevant [11:57] matey hand-picked [11:57] matey i know what the site is about. [11:57] matey but since you constantly change your message [11:57] matey im not surprised to hear this shit now [11:57] schestowitz_TR afd hates csu and the ccoalition so much that it is willing to make an alliance with putin and rt [11:57] schestowitz_TR much like gop in usa [11:57] matey youre a fucking chameleon [11:57] matey you should have been in marketing [11:57] schestowitz_TR asking for help from the outside, a "had-been" empire [11:58] schestowitz_TR we were always mostly about patents [11:58] schestowitz_TR or, this was the primary theme [11:58] schestowitz_TR you should know [11:58] schestowitz_TR you indexed the whole site [11:58] matey theres A LOT of patent stuff [11:58] XRevan86 fuzzy: The US banned Russian petroleum and gas completely in March. [11:58] matey yeah, im not denying theres loads of patent stuff [11:58] fuzzy XRevan86: how then could imports have increased? [11:59] XRevan86 fuzzy: I don't know, especially since the US *exports* natural gas. [11:59] matey but theres something youre forgetting [11:59] matey your own narrative [11:59] matey when it was boycott novell [11:59] matey obviously quite a lot was about novell [11:59] matey and yes, even then, patents were a huge issue [11:59] matey the novell thing was a patent issue [11:59] XRevan86 fuzzy: They don't need Russian natural gas, and Russia provides natural gas through pipelines, it's unable to compress and ship it anywhere anyway. [11:59] matey but i remember when you rebranded the website [11:59] matey you SAID what it was about ● Jun 24 [12:00] schestowitz_TR http://techrights.org/?stories [12:00] matey and even if it was mostly about patents [12:00] TR Bot Techrights | Free Software Sentry watching and reporting maneuvers of those threatened by software freedom [12:00] schestowitz_TR ""Patents (10,669) [12:00] matey the rest is just a matter of convenience [12:00] fuzzy USA were lying about their imports/exports, even the USA energy agency data contradicted what washington announced [12:00] schestowitz_TR " [12:00] schestowitz_TR Free/Libre Software (3,278)" [12:00] matey considering the website is mostly about patents [12:00] XRevan86 fuzzy: Or, here's another possibility, this is just complete nonsense. [12:00] fuzzy USA does NOT export a surplus of energy/oil/gas, what USA exports _only_ is _refined_ oil/gas products, and to export refinded products, USA must IMPORT first [12:01] fuzzy and those imports, from Russia, supposedly, increased, meanwhile USA/Washington intend to dictate sanctions [12:01] matey and considering that 3278 is 30% of 10669 [12:01] schestowitz_TR many are daily links [12:01] matey id say free software features NOTABLY [12:01] schestowitz_TR "News Roundup (6,131)" [12:01] matey i never said it WASNT about patents [12:01] matey but you saying its not about free software is just a joke [12:01] matey i mean [12:01] matey but hey, good to know [12:01] XRevan86 fuzzy:That's just wrong, the US exports shale gas. [12:02] matey techrights isnt about free software [12:02] matey it just hijacks that narrative to push whatever [12:02] matey like open source would generally do [12:02] schestowitz_TR techrights is about tech rights [12:02] fuzzy XRevan86: it did, in the past, and the "fracking boom" in USA was projected to end, the prognosis was USA couldn't continue with it for long [12:02] schestowitz_TR fsf is about (f)ree (s)oftware [12:02] matey thats what i thought [12:02] schestowitz_TR fsfe is about german lads [12:02] matey not anymore [12:02] schestowitz_TR who abuse the word of grve [12:02] schestowitz_TR *greve [12:02] schestowitz_TR and the org of RMAS [12:03] schestowitz_TR *RMS [12:03] schestowitz_TR and infringe the agreement on trademarks [12:03] schestowitz_TR if they were trademark nazis, they would go all KISS [12:03] schestowitz_TR with "intellectual property" over the SS [12:03] *KiKi_ (~KiKi@3fwq6apsn2jv4.irc) has joined #techrights [12:04] XRevan86 fuzzy: Fracking and shale gas are not the same thing. [12:04] TR News Frontex https://digit.site36.net/2022/06/23/new-pre-authorization-system-profiling-of-passengers-could-also-be-banned-for-frontex/ | Source: Site36 [12:04] TR Bot New pre-authorization system: Profiling of passengers could also be banned for Frontex Security Architectures in the EU [12:04] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@dzhffiiy2qznw.irc) has joined #techrights [12:04] fuzzy XRevan86: oil and gas can be refined; even dirty brown coal can be refined into oil and gas (Buna, East-Germany did this) [12:05] fuzzy whatever USA imports or exports, certainly USA never had an energy export suprlus, it's a propaganda lie from washington [12:06] XRevan86 https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports-of-petroleum stumbled upon this [12:06] TR Bot United States Imports of Petroleum - May 2022 Data - 1989-2021 Historical [12:06] fuzzy all i am saying, i am very curious to know, exactly which energy products are imported by USA, and from where [12:07] fuzzy and just if, imagine this, a war ignites in Ukraine, USA imports energy from Russia, and intends to sanction elsewhere, just what if... [12:07] fuzzy what i know for sure is this only, "EU" public tv and newspapers are full of propaganda shit, wherever it is produced [12:07] fuzzy and it isn't Russian propaganda shit, it is originating elsewhere [12:08] XRevan86 fuzzy: https://whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/03/08/fact-sheet-united-states-bans-imports-of-russian-oil-liquefied-natural-gas-and-coal/ this never happened? [12:08] TR Bot FACT SHEET: United States Bans Imports of Russian Oil, Liquefied Natural Gas, and Coal | The White House [12:08] fuzzy XRevan86: what is it then, Ukrainian energy products? Burisma/London/Biddler Joe? [12:09] XRevan86 fuzzy: The US doesn't have a literal pipeline from Russia, they were never as dependent on Russian fuel as the EU. [12:09] fuzzy XRevan86: btw. PartyBoJo announced he expects a prolonged war in Ukraine. it was PartyBoJo who said this, not Putin. [12:09] matey "Of course we welcome examiners to join our fight for Software Freedom, which extends to a fight for justice." http://techrights.org/2021/06/07/against-malicious-software/ The Correlation Between Software Freedom and Universal Justice [12:09] TR Bot The Correlation Between Software Freedom and Universal Justice | Techrights [12:09] XRevan86 fuzzy: And? [12:10] matey 06/24/22 10:51 we are not about free software 06/24/22 10:52 free software is not even in the site name [12:10] XRevan86 fuzzy: I give some news from Russia and Ukraine here daily. It should be obvious that the war is going to be prolonged. [12:11] XRevan86 Russia is advancing 2km a month, Ukraine's counter-attacks are not that impressive either. [12:12] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dxCjpEc66Dw [12:12] TR Bot Anything Goes - Invidious [12:13] matey ok youtube [12:13] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=r7NJ9ylAhos [12:13] TR Bot Anything Goes - Cole Porter (with lyrics) - Invidious [12:14] *KiKi_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) [12:20] matey "The Free Software Movement will survive this. *We* have a much more powerful message than the lies of corporate operatives." http://techrights.org/2021/05/05/failed-coup-vs-fsf/ [12:20] TR Bot Lessons From Another Failed Coup Against the Free Software Movement | Techrights [12:20] matey /me shrugs [12:21] schestowitz_TR that's what you found to refuse with? [12:22] matey oh no, im just looking for things that CLEARLY IMPLY techrights WAS about free software [12:22] matey ive found two things that go against what youre saying now [12:22] matey So Far [12:22] schestowitz_TR we stand for many things inc. net neutrality [12:22] matey thats not what im refuting [12:22] schestowitz_TR it'\s even on the banner in the front page (sidebar) [12:22] matey i just think its ridiculous that when i said sometimes free software is the topic [12:23] matey you spit out that its Not About [12:23] schestowitz_TR techrights channel is about techa nd rights [12:23] matey it'\s even on the banner <- so is the gnu lgoo [12:23] matey yeah [12:23] matey its just when you say some nonsenses like "techrights isnt about free software" [12:23] schestowitz_TR latest link was: "Profiling of passengers could also be banned for Frontex Security Architectures in the EU" [12:24] schestowitz_TR it's about tech [12:24] schestowitz_TR and passengers' basic rights [12:24] schestowitz_TR we also cover epo that's about labour rights AND patents [12:24] schestowitz_TR some call it "patent rights" [12:24] schestowitz_TR which is false [12:24] schestowitz_TR the US courts refuted this narrative [12:25] schestowitz_TR sharing are more like rights than monopolies are [12:26] TR News A RISC-V laptop or mini PC with Rockchip RK3588-class performance may be coming soon Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166424 [12:26] TR Bot A RISC-V laptop or mini PC with Rockchip RK3588-class performance may be coming soon | Tux Machines [12:26] TR News Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Visual Studio Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166425 [12:26] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Microsoft Visual Studio | Tux Machines [12:26] TR News Interview with German Scholarship student Julian Hbenthal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166426 [12:26] TR Bot Interview with German Scholarship student Julian Hbenthal | Tux Machines [12:26] matey Techrights basically watches and reports on threats to software freedom and if that freedom is under attack, then its only likely that interest will grow. Techrights is of course cheering for freedom (and for rights; its even in the sites name), but when things go awry we try to be objective about it. [12:27] matey i mean you just change your story when it suits you [12:27] matey let me find the url for that one [12:27] TR News Tech conferences for grown-ups https://www.politico.com/newsletters/digital-future-daily/2022/06/22/tech-conferences-for-grown-ups-00041464 [12:27] TR Bot conferences for grown-ups- POLITICO [12:28] matey im not trying to take anything out of context here [12:28] matey you say things clearly intended to give certain impressions [12:28] fuzzy btw. today i asked at the employment agency, for some office space... [12:28] matey later when that no longer does anything for you, you shift the narrative [12:28] matey not the focus-- the premise! [12:29] matey "THE Web site Techrights bears a motto/byline inspired or suggested by Richard Stallman almost a decade ago." http://techrights.org/2019/12/29/strong-year-for-techrights/ 2019 Was a Strong Year for Techrights [12:29] TR Bot 2019 Was a Strong Year for Techrights | Techrights [12:30] matey i mean the motto is in latin [12:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:30] matey bonum certament certa-- something like "truth for truths sake" (i dont know latin) [12:33] fuzzy as far as rights are concerned... i mean, some office space [12:33] fuzzy and then, i told them, i got enough work to do, to hire staff [12:33] fuzzy quality jobs, not bullshit jobs [12:34] fuzzy somewhat ironic, if some unemployed east-german nazi scum talks about mathematics, computers, and economic prospects [12:36] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166427 [12:36] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:36] fuzzy then i tried to explain, there is nothing wrong with vacancies, although i knew for myself what's important and what isn't [12:36] fuzzy and, i need some office space, and need to hire staff [12:37] fuzzy i mean, if they dump billions to subsidize intel to plant their consumer crap fabs into east germany [12:37] TR News "Because of the TNSR architecture and fast vector processing capabilities in VPP, the WireGuard implementation in TNSR is much faster than the standard in kernel Ubuntu / Linux WireGuard implementations." https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/578186670/netgate-releases-tnsr-high-performance-router-version-22-06 [12:37] TR Bot Netgate Releases TNSR High Performance Router Version 22.06 - EIN Presswire [12:37] matey the last one i found said "we need unity in OUR movement" though that was a guest post so it hardly counts [12:37] matey of course guest posts are funny [12:38] matey guest posts are funny because when roy mentions contents from them he will often say "we" [12:38] matey but when any guest post author makes an assertion like the one im making now [12:38] matey its "oh thats a guest post" [12:38] matey its like "whats yours is mine and whats ours is also mine" [12:39] schestowitz_TR it would be worse if I used "i" or "me" [12:39] matey mmhmm [12:39] schestowitz_TR but now you are pronoun-mining [12:39] schestowitz_TR brb [12:40] matey no, im pointing out a trend of appropriation and narrative shifting [12:40] schestowitz_TR you are fighing over relatively minor semzntic things [12:40] matey and noting that this guest post had a line i thought was relevant, but then i noted the author so im not including that one [12:41] schestowitz_TR you are nitpicking [12:41] schestowitz_TR I've said we for agggeeees [12:41] schestowitz_TR bbiab [12:41] schestowitz_TR no need to fight over such minotr stuff [12:41] TR News "Multispectral imaging, or photography using wavelengths other than those in ordinary visible light" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/23/hackaday-prize-2022-multispectral-smartphone-camera-reveals-paintings-inner-secrets/ | Source: Hackaday [12:41] TR Bot Prize 2022: Multispectral Smartphone Camera Reveals Paintings Inner Secrets | Hackaday [12:42] SomeH4x0r or just buy a proper camera [12:42] TR News Assange https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/23/a-letter-to-biden-on-assanges-extradition/ | Source: Counter Punch [12:42] TR Bot Open Letter to Biden on Assange's Extradition - CounterPunch.org [12:43] SomeH4x0r > minor stuff | boiling frog [12:43] SomeH4x0r you ruin it by introducing minor stuff over time [12:43] schestowitz_TR naa [12:43] schestowitz_TR he is not diaagreeing with the message [12:43] schestowitz_TR but with some pronouns here and there [12:43] schestowitz_TR and it leads to a lot of infighting [12:44] schestowitz_TR we have over 100 contributors [12:44] schestowitz_TR if you include sources [12:44] schestowitz_TR whom we quote [12:44] schestowitz_TR and people who send us material like leaked docs [12:45] matey im not quoting quotes, only things you wrote yourself [12:45] matey thats why the urls are cited here [12:46] matey and im only looking at lines that have "we" and "free software" in the same line-- this doesnt even have hits for "techrights" and "free software" [12:46] matey i could probably do this for the next few hours [12:46] matey obviously today you feel like downplaying the connection between techrights and free software [12:46] matey but later when it suits you, youll go in the other direction [12:47] matey ive seen you flip-flop completely on things, but this is more like massaging the context [12:48] matey imo it says more about whats on your mind than what youve even written [12:48] matey youre moving farther from free software in your head [12:48] matey later youll move closer to it again [12:48] matey either way, your rhetoric changes with the wind, and thats the point im making [12:48] matey (not for the first time) [12:49] matey its one thing to change your views-- i do that, so does everyone else [12:49] matey its another to move around with such flight that there clearly isnt a position, just the appearance of one [12:49] matey thats a politician thing, and you either do that or you dont [12:50] matey when people do that, consistency is shallow and much of it is comical [12:50] matey because it becomes a bit of a farce [12:51] matey same thing happened when the fsf put pressure on you [12:51] matey you moved away from your own narrative to suck up to the wrong people there [12:51] matey later when the dust had settled, you moved back to being critical [12:52] matey people call you on it, youre slippery, like today [12:52] matey handwavey denials and... i mean its never going to NOT be like this [12:52] matey you dont waver on epo stuff though [12:52] TR News Solana Saga: Essential Devs Now Have A New Phone For You Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166428 [12:52] TR Bot Solana Saga: Essential Devs Now Have A New Phone For You | Tux Machines [12:52] matey as far as i know, its too dull for me to follow closely [12:53] matey so maybe thats the only part of this you actually give a damn about (for whatever reason) [12:53] matey i never call you on it, because i would be asleep before i could find anything to critique [12:53] matey not yoru fault that patents are boring [12:53] matey they just are [12:54] matey some of its very important of course-- boring though it may be [12:54] matey patents are used to attack free sw obviously [12:55] matey but in the past 5 years ive seen only a couple trends that seem that important [12:55] matey maybe others LOOKED important and proved less so, i dont know [12:55] matey obviously gnome selling out on patents was awful [12:55] matey that was one story [12:55] matey and the other (not new) is microsoft cashing in on things like android / usb [12:55] matey so you try to buy not-microsoft, they get paid anyway [12:56] matey those are the biggest patent stories i know since alice and acta [12:56] matey maybe theres others, but in terms of actual hurt to free sw (not just threats on the horizon) those seem to be the big two [12:56] matey only so much you can say about those [12:56] matey the ibm gcc story is way bigger [12:57] matey but thats copyright, not patents, so... [12:57] matey /me shrugs [12:58] matey i think the narrative simply fits whoever youre trying to ingratiate yourself with at the moment [12:58] matey when it was the fsf, thats where the narrative went [12:58] matey then when that was done, it went back in the direction it was headed in before [12:58] matey thats the pattern i see over and over [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [12:59] matey but its not hard to get away from someone pointing it out [12:59] matey radar missile lock, pilot releases chaff [12:59] matey heat missile lock, pilot releases flares [12:59] matey heavy critique of integrity? author releases noise ● Jun 24 [13:00] matey it hasnt failed, i dont expect it to [13:00] matey we both know that proof would require investment [13:00] matey and no one has the attention span for it [13:01] matey therefore, its a non-issue [13:01] matey or as you say "we move on" [13:03] TR News Social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/california-seems-to-be-taking-the-exact-wrong-lessons-from-texas-and-floridas-social-media-censorship-laws/ | Source: Techdirt [13:03] TR Bot Seems To Be Taking The Exact Wrong Lessons From Texas And Floridas Social Media Censorship Laws | Techdirt [13:03] matey "Richard Stallman once said: 'Idiots can be defeated but they never admit it.' http://techrights.org/2012/12/09/fsf-on-ubuntu/ [13:03] TR Bot The Story Behind Criticising Ubuntus Privacy Settings | Techrights [13:04] matey it doesnt have to per se, but i think it does [13:04] matey come down to which one of us is the idiot. [13:08] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166429 [13:08] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:15] TR News TikTok Privacy https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/23/the-myopic-focus-on-tiktok-privacy-issues-remains-kind-of-weird/ | Source: Techdirt [13:15] TR Bot Myopic Focus On TikTok Privacy Issues Remains Kind Of Weird | Techdirt [13:27] TR News SpiralLinux Is a New Debian-Based Distro from the GeckoLinux Creator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166246#comment-34119 [13:27] TR Bot SpiralLinux: Creator of GeckoLinux emits new Debian remix | Tux Machines [13:27] TR News OSOMs OV1 is now Solanas web3 Android handset, Saga http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166428#comment-34120 [13:27] TR Bot Solana Saga: Essential Devs Now Have A New Phone For You | Tux Machines [13:28] fuzzy anyway, i asked at employment agency, for some office space, with the remark, "hey, got some jobs for you" [13:28] fuzzy no, no bullshit jobs [13:28] fuzzy huh [13:29] fuzzy hey, why does Intel receive billions of subsidies in east-germany to plant their consumer crap plants? [13:30] fuzzy pardon? east-germany? MY HOMELAND... you want to dump billions of subsidies into Intel consumer crap? [13:30] fuzzy i demand some office space!!! [13:30] fuzzy I, got some quality jobs. [13:30] matey "why does Intel receive billions of subsidies in east-germany" [13:30] fuzzy I, do not need you to tell me what to do. [13:31] fuzzy I, I got some quality jobs. [13:31] fuzzy I got them. [13:31] matey because politicians sell out their constituants and suck up to corporations and people with more money [13:31] fuzzy btw. i had welcomed company from silicon valley, although, it was NOT INTEL!!!! [13:31] TR News "Since we all see plenty of ASCII art in Geminispace but nobody talks about how to make any, I figured this might be more interesting than my least interesting post here." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~adiabatic/ascii-art/iphone/ [13:31] fuzzy for example, i had asked Lattice Semi and Zilog. [13:31] fuzzy Lattice and Zilog: YOU ARE WELCOME. [13:31] fuzzy Intel: FUCK YOU. GET THE FUCK OUT. [13:32] matey theres money for them [13:32] matey they want money [13:32] fuzzy it is my homeland. i decide, who is welcome and who is not. [13:32] TR News Links 24/06/2022: Mostly Political Catchup | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/political-catchup/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/political-catchup/ [13:32] TR Bot Links 24/06/2022: Mostly Political Catchup | Techrights [13:32] matey if you dont want ducks, dont throw bread [13:32] matey it is my homeland. i decide <- apparently someone has decided in your stead [13:32] fuzzy before 1990, we got nukes [13:33] matey a pretender to the throne? [13:33] fuzzy sadly, i haven't got them, when intel arrives [13:34] fuzzy and the policitians, who decide, who is welcomed, and who isn't [13:35] fuzzy because, i am NOT anti USA or anything [13:35] fuzzy it is only this, i can distinguish, who acts in good faith, and who isn't [13:36] fuzzy 1 billion Euros of subsidies for the Intel kikes [13:36] fuzzy thats 4 billion Reichsmark [13:36] fuzzy hey, Zilog, Lattice, what would you do with 4 billion Reichsmark? [13:37] fuzzy so, imagine this, i was a politician, who decided, who received, 4 billion Reichsmark, I decide, in MY HOMELAND [13:37] fuzzy 4 billion Reichsmark [13:37] fuzzy this is alot of cash [13:37] fuzzy and then, i tell you, what to do [13:38] fuzzy guess what, who decides? about MY HOMELAND? who is it? [13:38] fuzzy then they say, racist nazi... me? no. [13:39] matey the reason they mistake you for a nazi is that you support a party that uses rhetoric about your "homeland" to get people to support policies that... [13:39] fuzzy the difference however is this: i am willing to nuke out intel and microsoft and ibm. get the fuck out of my homeland. [13:40] matey well, it all hinges on whether afd is ultimately white supremacist [13:40] matey they want to keep people out of germany, keep it german [13:40] fuzzy pardon? [13:40] matey apparently they lean on racist / populist rhetoric to achieve this goal [13:40] fuzzy i mean, maybe, you could learn something, from german language, and germans? [13:41] fuzzy and too, russians, maybe, i mean, Bronstein Mathematics. [13:41] matey yeah well, dont count on TOO MUCH sympathy there [13:41] matey my family fled germany [13:41] matey so [13:41] matey and too, russians, maybe <- no idea what that even means [13:42] matey my family fled germany as odds are they would have been killed if they didnt [13:42] fuzzy well, you see. [13:42] matey lol [13:42] fuzzy my family [13:44] fuzzy my grandfather, from Leipzig, he was among the first to protest, 1990. [13:44] fuzzy guess why matey ? [13:44] fuzzy want to know why ? [13:44] matey might as well say why [13:44] fuzzy ok, the eugenics racist spook, it didn't end in 1945 [13:45] matey i mean there are lots of eugenicists, sadly [13:45] fuzzy my grandfather, from leipzig, he had dark hair and dark eyes, and my grandmother was a blonde beast [13:45] fuzzy and they, fell in love, my grandmother, she told me, he loved him [13:45] matey alright [13:46] fuzzy ok... so, some bureaucrats, tried to prevent, they married... [13:46] fuzzy after 1945... they were married for 50years or something [13:46] matey ok [13:47] fuzzy although, i must admit, my grandparents, they were socialized, as hitler youth [13:47] fuzzy this is an undeniable fact [13:47] matey that was a difficult group to stay out of if you wanted to [13:47] fuzzy so, what is german, what isn't? [13:47] matey indeed [13:48] matey the simplest definition is that someone born in, naturalised in, or allowed asylum in germany, is german though [13:48] fuzzy my grandmother, Waltraud, she told me, she knew many "jews", and she said, anyone claiming, among germans, they wouldn't knew, what happened [13:48] fuzzy those, they are lying [13:48] matey maybe asylum in germany doesnt count until youre a naturalised citizen [13:49] matey she knew many "jews", and she said, anyone claiming, among germans, they wouldn't knew, what happened <- eh? [13:49] matey those, they are lying <- i dont follow your meaning here [13:49] fuzzy after 1945 many "germans" argued they didn't know what happened [13:49] fuzzy my grandmother, Waltraud is her name, she told, that's impossible [13:49] matey thats true, many argued that [13:49] fuzzy EVERYONE MUST HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THE CRIMES [13:50] matey everyone? [13:50] fuzzy YES [13:50] matey how? [13:50] fuzzy she said, it was IMPOSSIBLE, to not know what happened, this is what she said [13:50] matey ok [13:50] matey so basically, what youre saying is [13:51] fuzzy i am saying, nowadays, i am accused of being "nazi" whatever [13:51] matey you come from a line of people who knew the actions in the earlier part of the century were atrocities [13:51] fuzzy or racist, it's all insults and lies [13:51] matey by association perhaps [13:51] matey maybe its unfair [13:51] fuzzy it is propaganda lies [13:52] matey but the accusations at afd at least [13:52] fuzzy and, i knew some other relatives, such as Uncle Horst [13:52] matey seem to have substance [13:52] fuzzy because, those people, they had names [13:52] fuzzy german names [13:53] fuzzy and, who were the victims? and who had benefit? [13:53] *CrystalMath (~coderain@xwqy6uuc6n3s2.irc) has joined #techrights [13:53] fuzzy all i am saying is this: I DECIDE WHO IS WELCOMED IN MY HOMELAND AND WHO IS NOT [13:53] matey youre not being very clear here [13:53] matey ok [13:54] fuzzy and if not, what then? [13:54] matey it seems a bit like part of an argument [13:54] matey the rest of which has not been presented [13:54] fuzzy just as said, east-germany, dismantled [13:55] fuzzy if it didn't and Intel arrived, i would nuke them [13:55] fuzzy instead, we got a government here, which subsidize them, with billions of cash [13:56] fuzzy i would pull the trigger myself, even if they wanted to hang me for doing it [13:56] fuzzy i would pull the trigger to nuke intel [13:57] fuzzy instead, the "german" government nowadays, intends to subsidize them with billions of cash [13:57] fuzzy 4 billion Reichsmark [13:57] fuzzy imagine this, what i could do with 4 billion Reichsmark? [13:58] fuzzy instead, i couldn't at least afford some tiniest office and lab space in MY OWN HOMELAND [13:58] fuzzy discuss. [13:58] matey how many people live in germany? [13:58] fuzzy germans? [13:58] matey whatever you like [13:59] matey how many? [13:59] fuzzy 83million [13:59] fuzzy although, that's NOT germany anymore, to my understanding [13:59] fuzzy german population, don't knoew, a few hundred thousand something ● Jun 24 [14:01] matey the thing is [14:01] matey im sure im doing something wrong here [14:01] matey when i multiply 83million times 48.20 [14:02] matey i get 4 billion [14:02] matey and while im sure thats not right [14:02] matey youre asking what you could do with 4 billion [14:02] matey shouldnt you be asking what you could do with 50.00 or something closer to that? [14:02] matey not that i think it should go to intel [14:03] matey i dont like them any more than you do [14:03] matey but even if my figures are wrong, theyre probably closer than your 4 billion [14:03] fuzzy pardon? it is german government who wastes 4 billion reichsmark on intel, not me [14:03] matey well yeah but its your money right? [14:03] fuzzy instead, i would have welcomes Zilog and Lattice, NOT intel [14:04] fuzzy too, i had welcomed Hitache/J-core/SuperH, NOT intel [14:04] fuzzy matey: it is MY HOMELAND [14:04] fuzzy I DECIDE [14:04] matey i think either would need more thn 50 reichsmark [14:05] fuzzy 4 billion, this is what they waste, for Intel, only for Intel [14:05] matey divided by 83 million [14:05] matey is what? [14:05] fuzzy pardon? [14:06] matey whats 4b divided by 83m [14:06] fuzzy Lattice was almost bancrupt, due to lack of funding of a few millions [14:06] fuzzy Lattice: YOU ARE WELCOME [14:06] fuzzy Intel: get the fuck out [14:06] fuzzy Lattice: what would you do, with 4 billion reichsmark? [14:07] matey what do you suppose the other 82,999,999 germans want [14:07] fuzzy yerk off with Netflix FullHD porn streaming? [14:08] matey well the good news is [14:08] matey 4 billion can pay for A LOT of netflix [14:08] matey but netflix is more likely to run on intel than zilog [14:08] fuzzy 4 billion, for intel alone [14:08] matey yeah its ridiculous (so is netflix) [14:08] fuzzy just as said, i would funnel those 4 billion reichsmark into lattice semi and zilog [14:09] matey why you, though? [14:09] fuzzy because, it is MY HOMELAND. [14:09] matey and the other 82,999,999 germans there? [14:09] matey is it their homeland too? [14:09] fuzzy whoever they are. [14:09] fuzzy matey: NO. [14:10] matey oh, ok [14:10] matey well the good news then [14:10] matey is you can take their 4b and do whatever you want to with it [14:10] matey but from what youve said, it sounds like someone has already done that [14:10] fuzzy matey: wrong, Intel got it. [14:10] fuzzy so, good luck with this. [14:10] matey you said it [14:10] fuzzy no, this wasn't me, who decided. [14:11] matey how many people have germany as a homeland? [14:11] matey besides you [14:11] fuzzy difficult to estimate [14:11] fuzzy because, they committed ethnocide against the population [14:11] fuzzy to eradice, evidence [14:11] matey oh okay [14:11] matey no, i like this idea [14:12] matey they supported the holocaust so they shouldnt have rights [14:12] matey i mean thats what the nuremberg trials were about [14:12] fuzzy and then, "they" dump billions, into Tesla and Intel Kikes [14:12] matey i cant really complain about those, maybe they were too lenient [14:12] fuzzy sad thing, about the nuremberg trials, you know, they hanged Julius Streicher [14:13] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [14:13] fuzzy meanwhile, Ilya Ehrenburg, this is the one, this historical truth teller [14:13] fuzzy why wasn't this one hanged? Ilya Ehrenburg, and his offspring, inciting hatred, nowadays? [14:14] matey streicher was the founder of Der Strmer, which was an important part of the nazi propaganda machine [14:14] matey why WOULDNT he be executed? [14:14] matey whats sad about it? [14:14] fuzzy hanged, death sentence, Ilya Ehrenburg, why wasn't this kike hanged? [14:14] matey i think i understand why people think you might be a racist nazi [14:14] matey i mean apart from afd [14:14] fuzzy why? come on. explain to me. why did they hang Streiche, and they didn't hang Ehrenburg? [14:15] matey well i understand why they killed Streicher at least [14:15] matey what did Ilya Ehrenbur DO [14:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [14:15] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:15] fuzzy exactly the SAME as Julius Streicher did, matey [14:15] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@6gcm9uav88pgc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:15] fuzzy Streiche was hanged, Ehrenburg, the jew, wasn't hanged for his crimes [14:15] fuzzy come on. why? [14:16] matey exactly the SAME <- looking it up now [14:16] fuzzy and, i got some more questions for you [14:16] matey Ilya Grigoryevich Ehrenburg was a Soviet writer, revolutionary, journalist and historian. Ehrenburg was among the most prolific and notable authors of the Soviet Union; he published around one hundred titles. He became known first and foremost as a novelist and a journalist in particular, as a reporter in three wars. [14:16] matey well im still trying to find the reason you want ehrenburg killed [14:17] fuzzy because he, Ehrenburg, and his offspring, commited the exact same crame as Julius Streicher did [14:17] fuzzy *crime [14:17] matey During the war, Ilya Ehrenburg was one of the most widely read journalists in the Soviet Press. As a Jew, he worked hard to place articles about Jewish suffering, including the piece "To Remember" in Pravda, the Russian daily paper, where he referred to the Nazi murder of six million Jews. [14:17] matey because he, Ehrenburg, and his offspring, commited the exact same crame as Julius Streicher did <- and how is that? [14:17] matey i mean [14:17] matey im not finding any evidence of that [14:18] fuzzy inciting hatred, HATE PROPAGANDA [14:18] fuzzy this was the job, of Ehrenburg [14:18] matey Streichers lies for example, resulted in mass extermination [14:18] matey who died because of Ehrenburg? [14:18] matey how many? [14:18] fuzzy 7 Million german soldiers alone [14:18] fuzzy 7 Million [14:19] fuzzy however, this, is a glorious victory, you know [14:19] matey you do realise that german soliders INVADED RUSSIA, right? [14:19] fuzzy pardon? [14:19] matey they brought tanks and soldiers and plans to russia [14:19] matey and started killing people on russian soil [14:19] fuzzy matey: german settlers, farmer and craftsmen, did NOT invade, german settlers were invited by catherine the great [14:19] fuzzy already [14:19] matey also known as "invading russia" [14:20] fuzzy and the "red revolution" seeked to expropriate, germans [14:20] matey okay let me rephrase then [14:20] fuzzy to loot and plunder [14:20] fuzzy this is fact [14:20] matey russia has a border [14:20] matey german military was crossing that border with troops [14:20] fuzzy sure, and some russians are germans [14:20] matey and killing people inside that border [14:20] matey usually this is known as an invasion [14:21] fuzzy sure, yet, it began, long before 1933 and hitler [14:21] matey what do you call it? [14:21] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:21] matey and you think Ehrenburg should be killed because [14:21] fuzzy as far as Ukraine and Russia and Poland are concerned? [14:21] matey he was directly responsible for those soldiers being killed [14:21] fuzzy it was ethnocide of the german population within Russia/Ukrain/Poland [14:21] fuzzy and this, is historical fact [14:21] fuzzy undeniable [14:22] fuzzy however, with east-germany, yet another border was crossed [14:22] matey and you dont think they were killed maybe because they came over the border and started shooting and bombing people? [14:22] fuzzy that's why, i wished, we didn't dismantle nukes [14:22] fuzzy matey: when? [14:22] matey breaking a treaty that hitler had signed [14:22] fuzzy catherine the great invited german farmers and craftsmen, 1800 already [14:23] matey when were they crossing the border and killing people? [14:23] fuzzy furthermore, the Knights of the German Cross, and the Hanseatic League trade union, it existed for 500 years already [14:23] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@7hpuxwr5tewrw.irc) has joined #techrights [14:23] matey so my understand so far is this [14:23] fuzzy trade troutes existed, down to middle east, including Israel [14:23] matey because of catherine the great in the 1800s [14:24] fuzzy that's how long germans lived there, even longer, given other historical facts [14:24] matey in the 1900s germans should be allowed to cross the russian border (while under a peace treaty signed by hitler) [14:24] fuzzy and, germans did NOT "invade", historical truth is, germans were expelled, deported, before hitler seized power [14:24] matey and basically just rampage and slaughter and no jewish reporters should dare say this is a bad thing... [14:24] matey and because they said this is a bad thing, they should be killed [14:25] matey so they didnt invade per se [14:25] matey this was more like a returning home parade, with tanks and bombs for added celebratory effect [14:25] matey i mean they probably had more of those on hand than fireworks [14:25] matey you can appreciate the kind of misunderstandings that could result though [14:25] fuzzy historical truth is, german settlements existed, for hundreds of years, trade routes, across entire europe [14:26] matey unless of course those misunderstandings were all perpetrated by the press [14:26] matey :) [14:26] fuzzy and nowadays, they loot and plunder east-germany [14:26] fuzzy and this is the moment when, i say, pull the trigger, get out the nukes [14:26] matey i dont doubt it. after all, its europe [14:27] TR News Manage GNOME extensions from Terminal Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166430 [14:27] TR Bot Manage GNOME extensions from Terminal | Tux Machines [14:28] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AIZKZ3C1ML8 [14:28] TR Bot The Producers (1968) - Franz Liebkind (Kenneth Mars) - Invidious [14:30] TR News Solar Protocols, Radio Internets, Decentralized futures gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-24-network.gmi [14:40] TR News Linus Torvalds Expects to See Rust Support in the Kernel Soon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166414#comment-34122 [14:40] TR Bot Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines [14:42] TR News Samsung to Pay $14M for Galaxy Water Resistant Claims https://www.maketecheasier.com/samsung-pay-14m-galaxy-water-resistant/ [14:42] TR Bot Samsung to Pay $14M for Galaxy Water Resistant Claims - Make Tech Easier [14:43] TR News Security updates for Friday https://lwn.net/Articles/898925/ [14:43] TR Bot updates for Friday [LWN.net] [14:44] TR News On the Dangers of Cryptocurrencies and the Uselessness of Blockchain https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/on-the-dangers-of-cryptocurrencies-and-the-uselessness-of-blockchain.html [14:44] TR Bot the Dangers of Cryptocurrencies and the Uselessness of Blockchain - Schneier on Security [14:44] TR News "President Saied has already dismissed the parliament and the government. 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[14:47] matey oh, priceless [14:47] TR News "Stratis 3.1.0 includes significant improvements to the management of the thin-provisioning layers, as well as a number of other user-visible enhancements and bug fixes." https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stratis_3.1.0 [14:47] TR Bot Changes/Stratis 3.1.0 - Fedora Project Wiki [14:48] TR News The road to JBoss EAP 8 | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2022/06/24/road-jboss-eap-8 Source: icbm [14:48] TR Bot The road to JBoss EAP 8 | Red Hat Developer [14:49] TR News Fedora Community [sic] Blog: CPE Weekly Update Week 25 2022 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-25-2022/ [14:49] TR Bot CPE Weekly Update Week 25 2022 Fedora Community Blog [14:49] matey https://www.facinghistory.org/holocaust-human-behavior/to-remember-ilya-ehrenburg [14:49] TR Bot To Remember by Ilya Ehrenburg | Facing History and Ourselves [14:50] matey apparently the alt-right (perhaps others as well) credit him with the "6 million" in "6 million jews" [14:50] matey granted those were civilians [14:50] TR News ICBM helped Hitler, for profit. Now it's flying "diversity" flags... https://opensource.com/article/22/6/open-source-standards-diversity [14:50] TR Bot a more diverse and equitable open source project with open standards | Opensource.com [14:50] matey but lets not forget also that invading german soldiers were killed [14:52] matey during an invasion of a country they had a peace treaty with [14:52] TR News Since when does ICBM prioritise people? They're slaves to them. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/prioritize-people-cultural-transformation [14:52] TR Bot Prioritize people during cultural transformation in 3 steps | The Enterprisers Project [14:53] matey a peaceful invasion, made bloody by yellow journalists, i guess [14:53] matey to his credit, stalin did his best to keep things calm [14:54] matey telling his men to simply get slaughtered rather than provoke the nice german troops [14:54] matey but did they listen? nooooo [14:54] TR News Rust and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166414#comment-34123 [14:54] TR Bot Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines [14:54] matey why do people never listen [14:55] TR News Godot Engine - Godot community poll 2022 https://godotengine.org/article/godot-community-poll-2022 Source: godotengine [14:55] TR Bot Godot Engine - Godot community poll 2022 [14:55] matey i think mike godwin is probably standing on a ledge right about now [14:55] matey /me softly mumbles "dont do it, mike!" [14:55] TR News Utkarsh Gandhi: "It's been almost 2 weeks into the GSoC coding period, and the project has picked up the pace!" https://utkarsh2401.blogspot.com/2022/06/first-update.html [14:55] TR Bot First Update! [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [14:59] TR News "The AlmaLinux Build System will let users build software for the AlmaLinux distribution. Full access of ALBS is slated for July." But needs to delete GitHub. AlmaLinux keeps sucking up to Microsoft, also Azure (layoffs) and WSL (attack on GNU/Linux) https://www.itprotoday.com/linux/almalinux-build-system-what-you-need-know [14:59] TR Bot AlmaLinux Build System: What You Need to Know | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More ● Jun 24 [15:00] matey We must remember: fascism was born out of the greed and stupidity of some, and the perfidy and cowardice of others. 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[15:22] schestowitz_TR poland? [15:22] schestowitz_TR france? [15:22] matey russia [15:22] matey stalin and hitler were besties [15:22] matey but hitlers not a very good friend (not that stalin would be) [15:23] matey actually hitler wore the pants that in marriage [15:23] matey s/that in/in that/ [15:23] schestowitz_TR source? [15:23] schestowitz_TR I know they allied on splitting Poland [15:23] schestowitz_TR but don't know when or why it turned sour [15:23] matey history book? [15:24] schestowitz_TR the attacker often pretends to be proactivelyt defending [15:24] schestowitz_TR like putin does in ukraine [15:24] schestowitz_TR or israel innn gaza [15:24] schestowitz_TR or uk in falkland [15:24] XRevan86 matey: Keep in mind that Hitler didn't declare war, so whatever the USSR and Nazi Germany had was not war, it was a special military operation to de-Jew-ise and de-militarise the USSR. [15:24] schestowitz_TR or japan, I think [15:24] schestowitz_TR so even when you are the aggressor it's some "defence" thing [15:24] matey it was a special military operation <- honestly it was more innocent than that [15:24] schestowitz_TR putin in georgia [15:24] XRevan86 Claiming otherwise is Fake News, by the penalty of law. [15:24] schestowitz_TR us in iraq [15:24] matey they were only going in to paint "z" on some things [15:24] matey the whole thing was a misunderstanding [15:25] matey us in iraq <- that wasnt under a peace treaty though [15:25] matey and gene simmons says it was liberating! [15:25] matey the famous political analyst and bass player [15:25] XRevan86 matey: Germany was just protecting the German population, Russia is just protecting the Russian population. [15:26] matey XRevan86: and they could do that if not all those meddling journalists from kiev! [15:26] XRevan86 matey: Who fabricated a massacre in Bucha [15:27] matey /me knows fuck-all about bucha [15:27] TR News Those are NOT "Linux Commands" https://www.fosslife.org/alternatives-deprecated-linux-commands [15:27] TR Bot Alternatives to Deprecated Linux Commands [15:29] matey whats really funny though [15:29] TR News What if? This is where we are heading.. //www.mnot.net/blog/2022/06/22/chromium-only [15:29] matey is someone told me herr doktor sixel might be a nazi sympathiser [15:29] matey i only knew about the afd thing, and you know [15:29] TR News "I fucking hate Jira." https://ifuckinghatejira.com/ [15:29] TR Bot I fucking hate Jira. [15:29] matey there has to be AT LEAST ONE guy supporting them that doesnt know their deal [15:29] matey i guess [15:30] XRevan86 matey: All one needs to know is that Minwar and Putin personally deny everything and claim the whole thing is fabricated. And *any* evidence to the contrary, like https://nytimes.com/2022/05/19/world/europe/russia-bucha-ukraine-executions.html [15:30] TR Bot New Evidence Shows How Russian Soldiers Executed Men in Bucha - The New York Times [15:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:30] matey but then i talked to him and got his side of the story [15:30] matey and i guess its like, 10-20 times worse than i imagined [15:30] matey so thats fun [15:30] matey maybe baphometos should be called blitzkriegos or something [15:30] XRevan86 matey: It's that easy to refute, no brain-cells required. [15:30] matey or specialmilitaryos [15:30] TR News Audiocasts/Shows: TLG, Bad Voltage, and Linux in the Ham Shack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166437 [15:30] TR Bot Audiocasts/Shows: TLG, Bad Voltage, and Linux in the Ham Shack | Tux Machines [15:30] TR News "Not publishing one sentence per line, no. Write like this for your eyes only. HTML or Markdown combine separate lines into one paragraph." https://sive.rs/1s [15:30] TR Bot writing one sentence per line | Derek Sivers [15:30] matey its a special military operating system! [15:31] matey i still think cutting the crap out of linux is a good idea [15:31] matey but it was starting to look like wholesale liquidation, and i guess theres no need to hunt for an explanation for that now [15:31] TR News git clarity gemini://idiomdrottning.org/git-clarity [15:32] matey at any rate, if i need an os from people who think hitler was just defending the HOMELAND, i can use fedora [15:32] XRevan86 matey: https://youtu.be/NkEgtfL0TIU?t=88 [15:32] TR Bot NO TITLE [15:32] TR News "Healthcare is a human right, and anybody wanting to terminate an unwanted pregnancy deserves access to whatever form of medical care they choose. However, abortion wasnt invented in the 20th century, and in the face of patriarchal state repression, I encourage folks to share these resources, some of which I mirror here." gemini://retrace.club/~mycorrhiza/posts/20220503_herbal_abortions.gmi [15:32] XRevan86 First thing I found with subtitles. [15:33] matey subttles will help [15:33] matey i dont know cyrillic, let alone russian [15:33] matey (but i can probably spot the CAFE now) [15:33] XRevan86 Not the same speech I was looking for, but this will suffice. [15:34] XRevan86 He gave a more verbose comment on Bucha being fake, saying that Anglo-Saxons fabricated the whole thing and he has proof. [15:35] matey wow [15:35] matey watch his face [15:35] XRevan86 That was in April. Still waiting for that proof. [15:35] matey thats a true dyed-in-the-wool sociopath [15:35] matey of course, given the situation, that sounds like an understatement (and might be) [15:36] matey either hes colder than ice or he has animatronic implants [15:36] TR News Links 24/06/2022: SLE 15 SP4 and Darkbar 1.0.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/darkbar-1-0-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/darkbar-1-0-1/ [15:36] TR Bot Links 24/06/2022: SLE 15 SP4 and Darkbar 1.0.1 | Techrights [15:36] XRevan86 matey: He has botox. [15:37] matey bush jr would grin stupidly when saying things like that, because he knew it was bullshit [15:37] matey matey: He has botox. <- extra strength [15:37] matey but fair point [15:38] matey now all the psycho fascist leaders are going to want botox so they can say this shit with a straight face [15:38] XRevan86 matey: "bush jr would grin stupidly when saying things like that, because he knew it was bullshit" <- https://youtu.be/vi/JQnQsQ35zc4/hqdefault.jpg like this? [15:38] TR Bot NO TITLE [15:40] matey i dunno, im having trouble getting anything besides html from that [15:40] matey but i used to support national public radio [15:40] matey i stopped listening and supporting when every day i had to listen to that idiot doing speeches [15:40] matey i mostly liked that they played classical music [15:41] matey youtube would exist not long after that [15:42] XRevan86 * https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JQnQsQ35zc4/hqdefault.jpg [15:43] matey he looks like a happy crash test dummy [15:43] matey what kind of foundation did they put on him, latex? [15:43] XRevan86 This is pre-botox, the year 2000. [15:44] matey still very uncanney valley [15:44] matey but theres a nuance [15:45] matey In aesthetics, the uncanny valley (Japanese: bukimi no tani) is a hypothesized relation between an object's degree of resemblance to a human being and the emotional response to the object. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley [15:45] TR Bot Uncanny valley - Wikipedia [15:46] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actroid [15:46] TR Bot Actroid - Wikipedia [15:47] matey ewwwwwww [15:47] matey just looking at it makes you feel like its trying to eat your face [15:48] matey the funny thing is [15:48] matey ive spent a lot of time reading a webcomic (a couple actually) where the models are 3d rendered [15:48] matey (and then i suppose, 2d rendered) [15:49] matey and they look creepy enough that some people wont read them [15:49] matey but i can stand them [15:49] XRevan86 matey: https://youtu.be/dqDqvKYDv9M found it, only one word but I still wanted to find with subtitles. [15:49] TR Bot https://invidious.weblibre.org/watch?v=dqDqvKYDv9M [15:49] TR Bot invidious.weblibre.org | eXile TV: Putin Tackles Kursk Submarine Disaster - Invidious [15:49] matey but that robot is fucking creepy [15:50] matey "well, hes dead" [15:50] matey "it sank" [15:50] matey i wonder if that interview inspired bill gates [15:51] TR News It is probably fair to say that in recent years the patent maximalism lobby perished, but at the same time the patent REFORM movement is dying or barely active. This is, IMHO, related to the demise of journalism and the WWW. [15:51] matey i think i prefer the botox / slowly poisoned one to the just-ate-a-canary one [15:51] matey "oh its not botox. i just havent slept in 3 weeks" [15:52] *techrights_guest|26 (~48849978@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [15:53] matey meanwhile bidens got a [15:53] matey whats the deal, they make his dentures twice the size they should be, or what [15:54] matey "im not smiling, i just have REALLY big teeth" [15:54] XRevan86 https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/10/06/we-couldn-t-tell-the-relatives 2020: "Declassified transcripts show that Putin was obsessed with polling even as Bill Clinton consoled him after the Kursk submarine disaster" [15:54] TR Bot NO TITLE [15:54] matey "seriously joe, what the hell?" [15:54] matey "i started farting in 2007 and havent stopped, youd grin too!" [15:54] *techrights_guest|26 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [15:55] matey Putin was obsessed with polling <- he wouldnt leave twitter along either [15:56] matey it didnt even exist yet, but he kept checking [15:57] XRevan86 > It sank, Putin said with a smirk. That expression has haunted the president ever since. [15:57] XRevan86 Sure as heck did. [15:58] matey the botox fixed it [15:58] matey ive only seen that smirk on one other person [15:58] matey bill murray, and HE was being funny at the time ● Jun 24 [16:03] TR News Weekly Mortality Reports Not Published for 15 Days Already, Information Blackout Does Not Tackle COVID-19 as It's Rebounding, Surging, and Killing People https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/pandemic-blackout/ [16:03] TR Bot Blog Archive Weekly Mortality Reports Not Published for 15 Days Already, Information Blackout Does Not Tackle COVID-19 as Its Rebounding, Surging, and Killing People [16:11] TR News In Faeroe Islands 34,658 people tested positive for COVID-19 (out of 49,229 people in total) and only 28 died [16:11] XRevan86 https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-19 "Russian forces are likely employing false-flag artillery strikes against infrastructure in Russian-held areas of Donetsk Oblast in order to dissuade pro-Ukrainian sentiment and encourage the mobilization of proxy forces. Open-source Twitter accounts confirmed ISWs previous assessment that artillery attacks agai [16:11] XRevan86 nst Donetsk City were likely conducted from within Russian-held territory, refuting accusations made by Russian authorities that blamed Ukrainian troops for the attacks.[ https://nitter.net/GeoConfirmed/status/1538527271165771778#m ] Such false-flag attacks are likely being propagated by Russian authorities to create hostility toward the Ukrainian military." [16:11] TR Bot Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 19 | Institute for the Study of War [16:11] TR Bot GeoConfirmed (@GeoConfirmed): "Based on the first video we can make an assessment about the number of impacts: https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1533158430390861829 1,5km away from impact area. Speed of sound 343 m/s so rougly 5 seconds delay. The movie starts immediately with the sound of impacts. 14/"|nitter [16:12] XRevan86 It's not solid proof, so at the time I walked away from this. [16:13] XRevan86 The hints that they're doing this have been floating around for many years. [16:13] TR News In Iceland most of the population tested positive for COVID-19 and 153 died. [16:14] XRevan86 But lately the focus on the war is of course *much-much* higher, and a lot more is known about how Russia and Ukraine conduct their operations. [16:14] XRevan86 And these shelling of Donetsk allegedly conducted by Ukraine are becoming increasingly more and more ridiculous. [16:15] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k4QENwQO8EI [16:15] TR Bot 10 Subtle Signs of a Psychopath - Invidious [16:16] XRevan86 Because it looks like if Ukraine wanted to attack Donetsk, they'd actually be able to hit something of value at least once. [16:16] TR News In Bulgaria 3.2% of people who tested positive for COVID-19 died. In Peru it's 6%. [16:16] matey "many psychopaths dont realise theyre contradicting themselves, because their opinions are impulsive and temporary" [16:16] XRevan86 (of value from a military perspective) [16:17] matey "psychopaths have no problem with lying, so they say whatever strikes them in the moment" [16:17] XRevan86 matey: That sounds like Ilya Kyva. [16:18] matey i can think of other examples [16:18] matey who is ilya kyva? [16:18] XRevan86 matey: I don't know if I can describe him. [16:18] matey well okay but [16:18] TR News openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/25 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/06/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-25/ [16:18] TR Bot openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/25 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) [16:18] matey what is his relationship to you, events, or some other thing? [16:19] XRevan86 matey: He's a Ukrainian polician who used to be a borderline Nazi and then turned into a heavy Russia supporter. [16:19] matey other than a first and second name (i assumed he was a political figure) [16:19] TR News Reproducible Builds: Supporter spotlight: Hans-Christoph Steiner of the F-Droid project https://reproducible-builds.org/news/2022/06/24/supporter-spotlight-hans-christoph-steiner-f-droid-project/ [16:19] TR Bot spotlight: Hans-Christoph Steiner of the F-Droid project reproducible-builds.org [16:19] matey i may be missing part of the conversation, and i was just going to go check. so if it seems like an odd question, thats why [16:19] XRevan86 matey: He did *a lot* of controversial things. [16:19] matey so a public figure the [16:20] matey then [16:20] XRevan86 yes [16:20] XRevan86 And he made a lot of shit up. [16:20] TR News Red Hat Learning Community celebrates 100,000 members https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-learning-community-celebrates-100000-members Source: Red Hat | ICBM | GNU | Linux [16:20] TR Bot Red Hat Learning Community celebrates 100,000 members [16:20] XRevan86 That was later picked up by Russian propaganda as well. [16:20] matey ohh ok [16:20] matey yeah from that description i think yovue mentioned him before [16:20] XRevan86 matey: IIRC, our friend activelow even shared some of Kyva's pearls. [16:20] XRevan86 I did, yea. [16:21] matey "see how often their opinions flop back and forth. it may happen more than you realise" [16:22] XRevan86 matey: The guy flips back and forth quicker than a clock. [16:22] XRevan86 The shoe fits, basically. [16:23] XRevan86 Better than to anyone else. [16:24] matey theyre very hierarchical [16:24] matey all trying to be the alpha [16:24] matey no wp article sadly [16:25] matey oh wait here we go https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illia_Kyva [16:25] TR Bot Illia Kyva - Wikipedia [16:25] matey transliteration does it [16:25] XRevan86 https://theins.press/en/news/252560 [16:25] TR Bot More arson attacks at Russian military enlistment offices: Fire bottles thrown in Belgorod and Perm [16:26] matey or should i say transyliteration [16:26] matey lol [16:26] matey the moment i saw his face i thought it was a breaking bad sequel [16:26] TR News EPO actions/strike: Ballot on extension of the Work-to-Rule actions until 30 September 2022 [16:27] matey id link to the picture but its all unicode shoved into html entities [16:27] matey he looks like a cross between dr phil and john malkovich [16:28] XRevan86 I think my English-translation sources missed pretty amusing recent news about a school prank. [16:28] matey school prank? [16:31] XRevan86 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://tjournal.ru/news/659829 [16:31] TR Bot - TJ [16:33] XRevan86 "School at Klin did a performance "Work liberates" with the slogans of the Third Reich because of a prank of a blogger from Belarus" [16:33] matey lol [16:33] matey there was an episode of the office like that [16:34] matey dwight (who loves authority anyway) won some award for sales and had to give a speech at a sales convention [16:34] matey so his boss michael scott tried to teach him how to tell jokes at big events [16:35] matey jim, who always pranks dwight, said humour wasnt his style-- he needed to beat his fist on the podium and extoll the values of hard work and discipline [16:35] matey then he stitched together bits of speeches of people like mussolini [16:35] matey dwight delivered the speech predictably and powerfully, and to the horror of some everyone cheered [16:36] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ilE4lr9Qb3A the speech [16:36] TR Bot Dwight's Acceptance Speech - The Office - Invidious [16:39] XRevan86 It's a special form of Poe's Law the way I see it. [16:39] XRevan86 The school couldn't tell if it's in Nazi Germany or not. [16:40] matey sadly, a lot of things we used to joke about have come true [16:42] XRevan86 Sadly, I don't think anyone's covered this in English. Quite something. [16:43] XRevan86 https://nitter.net/maceochi/status/1540030012631535618 found something [16:43] TR Bot Ian Mac Eochagin (@maceochi): "A Belarusian artist posing as a United Russia official made a school in Klin, Russia, do a staff cleanup of the grounds under the title Work makes free and with the slogan One folk, one nation, one leader. The school did so and sent him a photo report. Genius and scary."|nitter [16:48] matey lol [16:49] matey someone from a comedy show put a table outside and got a bunch of people to sign a petition to "end womens sufferage" [16:49] matey of course womens sufferage is the right to vote [16:49] matey but it also sounds like "women suffering" [16:49] matey so people who dont know what sufferage means signed to end womens right to vote [16:50] matey and it was just a poke at people not knowing their own language and history [16:50] matey one of the more notable women in the womens sufferage movement was susan b anthony [16:51] matey i only know her name because she was on a dollar coin that was only made for a single year [16:51] matey there are not a lot of dollar coins [16:51] matey theres the larger silver dollar in actual silver, from the 1800s [16:51] matey theres the large silver dollar made of nickel [16:51] matey theres the susan b anthony dollar [16:51] matey and the gold dollar coin [16:52] matey over nearly a 250 year history, thats not many [16:52] matey and only 2 are really in circulation [16:52] matey the susan b anthony and the gold dollar coin [16:53] matey you rarely see them so its sort of fun [16:53] matey if you know the history of the coin youll know that "womens sufferage" is the right to vote [16:54] matey http://www.bandhmo.org/ Coalition to Ban DHMO Dihydrogen Monoxide Homepage [16:54] TR Bot Coalition to Ban DHMO Dihydrogen Monoxide Homepage [16:54] matey Dihydrogen monoxide: is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain. contributes to the "greenhouse effect." may cause severe burns. contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape. accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals. may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes. [16:56] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:56] matey www.change.org/p/ban-dihydrogen-monoxide-stop-the-use-of-the-chemical-dihydrogen-monoxide [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [16:59] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:59] fuzzy besides Intel, the new "german" government, announced to acquire F-35 nuclear bombers ● Jun 24 [17:00] fuzzy let me say, this isn't close to russian border, this is germany [17:00] fuzzy however, those who decide, to subsidize intel with 1billion, and dump cash into F-35 bombers [17:00] fuzzy whose interests are served? [17:02] fuzzy the propaganda spin is this: safe the planet, social ecological justice, and democracy and freedom [17:03] fuzzy anyway, whoever intel and affiliates want to bless, i want them to get the fuck out of my homeland [17:03] fuzzy now [17:03] fuzzy sadly, meanwhile they stockpiled nukes, east-germany dismantled everthing [17:04] fuzzy instead, yet another power grab and occupation of foreign soil, which isn't theirs [17:04] fuzzy this new government, "german" they say, it's "innovation" and "digital economy" and investment into future [17:04] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@p4vs6vu2f7ege.irc) has joined #techrights [17:04] fuzzy yet, i fail to comprehend, because, millions of young _left_ east germany [17:05] fuzzy how was this supposed to benefit the economy? [17:06] fuzzy the new Chancellor, if it was him being involved, with such decisions, then he is the stupiest idiot ever [17:07] fuzzy yet, i simply do not know yet, who were resonsible for this [17:07] MinceR https://existentialcomics.com/comic/450 [17:07] TR Bot Language Drinking Games - Existential Comics [17:07] fuzzy east german yout leaves the country, because mass unemployment, [17:07] fuzzy then some consumer toy company Intel shall be subsidized with 1billion cash? [17:08] fuzzy i mean, i haven't got at least some tiniest office and lab space... [17:08] fuzzy i could hire some staff, instantly, quality jobs, no need for anyone else to tell me what to do [17:08] fuzzy certainly, Intel isn't the type of company, to dictate [17:09] fuzzy nonetheless, 1billion cash, for Intel [17:09] fuzzy it isn't Intel who invests 1billion, it is "german" government who intends to subsidize this corrupt gang [17:09] *bnchs (~bnchs@v7wick3kn7n28.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] fuzzy 1billion cash, for Intel alone, and east germany is relatively small [17:11] fuzzy i want names, addresses, i want to see the contracts, everything [17:11] fuzzy and then put those responsible into jail [17:13] fuzzy or maybe, somewhere in Ukraine, we find a mud hole for them, to play their games with Intel [17:14] fuzzy too i noticed, IBM lured into Magdeburg already, the same region where Intel wants to occupy [17:15] fuzzy while i am at it, it is time to scalp heads at IBM, and them to leave [17:15] fuzzy wherever they came from, leave [17:16] fuzzy sure, the particular corporate cancer spread in west germany for decades long before, yet east-germany isn't theirs [17:16] fuzzy hasn't it been enough already, to ruin west-germany? [17:27] fuzzy meanwhile, it is irritating somehow, Ukrainian wheet and corn and plant oil isn't shipped anymore [17:27] fuzzy and then we got those atlantic bridge washtington corporate minion politicians, whining, because such products aren't shipped at a friendship discount anymore [17:28] fuzzy yet Ukraine seeks to become a member of "EU" [17:29] fuzzy Russia, already was closely affiliated, economically, with Germany, whatever "EU" was, in theory and practice [17:30] fuzzy i don't know, i don't follow internal USA politics [17:30] MinceR maybe ask your friend to piss off from ukraine [17:30] fuzzy since it is a corrdinated propaganda campaign [17:31] fuzzy don't know, where this is orchestrated [17:33] fuzzy hostile US corporations lure into and hijack in east germany [17:33] fuzzy not some arbitrary US corporations, the hostile ones did [17:34] fuzzy Intel, IBM, to name two of those [17:34] fuzzy Magdeburg [17:34] fuzzy IBM too arrived in Romania, although this is none of my concerns [17:35] fuzzy and who are the politicians who funneled billions of cash into this cancerous corporate madhouse? [17:35] matey the propaganda spin is this: safe the planet, social ecological justice, and democracy and freedom <- when you put it that way [17:35] matey upspeak and high prices on fuel... [17:36] matey or nazis and high prices on fuel [17:36] matey id vote for free speech, but i dont recall the gestapo being so big on that when they were torching bookshops [17:37] matey i like einstein [17:37] matey first, he fled hitler. that was a good idea. probably why they called him "einstein" [17:38] matey then after he fled hitler, he sat on his laurels and became a huge sjw [17:38] matey nope [17:38] fuzzy Einstein's "speed of light" was reason enough for him to leave, and not return into prussian academy of science [17:39] matey i like how you put it in scarequotes [17:39] fuzzy this "speed of light" is reason enough, to expell a scientist from a german university [17:39] fuzzy if einstein wanted to lecture metaphysical spook, then prussian academy of science was his place [17:39] fuzzy was not [17:39] matey after fleeing hitler, he pointed out how hypocritcal the zionists were [17:39] matey straight up comparing them to nazis in the new york times [17:40] fuzzy i didn't follow political argument from einstein [17:40] fuzzy i only considered his speed of light quackery charlatanry [17:40] fuzzy and this doesn't belong into prussian academy of science [17:40] matey well of you did, as you must be some kind of timelord [17:40] fuzzy that's not anti-semitic [17:40] matey no its just fucking dumb [17:40] fuzzy if any other, german or none, had articulated such jokes dressed up as science [17:41] fuzzy then prussian academy of science wasn't the place to do this [17:41] MinceR inb4 "jewish physics" [17:41] fuzzy sadly, this bullshit is still lectured in school, in germany (referring to speed of light, not some other topics) [17:41] matey people treat you like a quack, and you refute it by wolfing down bread you pick up in your beak [17:41] MinceR lol [17:42] MinceR but mixing it with water before swallowing [17:42] fuzzy i think, Einstein himself once said, some constant he introduced was one of his worst mockeries [17:42] matey Mein Feathur [17:43] matey `O/< [17:43] matey thats a duck doing a heil hitler with his wing [17:43] TR News EPO Staff at The Hague Complains of New Pressure Tactics and Survey Shows Less than 10% Think Office Policies Serve the EPOs Interests | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-pressurising-tactics/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-pressurising-tactics/ [17:43] TR Bot EPO Staff at The Hague Complains of New Pressure Tactics and Survey Shows Less than 10% Think Office Policies Serve the EPOs Interests | Techrights [17:44] matey "some constant" now youre just making light [17:44] *cybrNaut has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *phobos has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *Guest43100 has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *schestowitz_log has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *schestowitz-TR has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *rowbee has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *schestowitz has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *mekkis has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] *sbp has quit (*.net *.split) [17:44] matey if newton was jewish, he would have said gravity was bullshit too [17:44] fuzzy the "speed of light" one certainly is one of the worst mockeries in history of science [17:45] schestowitz_TR light has no speed? [17:45] matey "apples dont fall, this is american propaganda!" [17:45] fuzzy schestowitz_TR: yes, light is an electromagnetic wave/field, which cannot be characterized with a simple speed property, and it isn't constant [17:46] matey the apple stayed at the same height for millions of years until they were Pulled Down [17:46] matey its my homeland, ill say what apples can do in it [17:47] fuzzy matey: you may dress up as science whatever you like, yet not in prussian academy of science [17:47] matey their loss [17:47] matey /me dresses up science as marlene dietrich (my favourite german) [17:47] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [17:47] matey (no really, shes the greatest) [17:47] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [17:48] *mekkis (~mekkis@freenode-ej1.p09.41uflq.IP) has joined #techrights [17:48] *schestowitz_log (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [17:48] *sbp (~sbp@freenode-1m86vc.cfhm.haf7.0u8u7u.IP) has joined #techrights [17:48] *schestowitz (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [17:48] *Guest43100 (sid80718@freenode-hl1pl3.r7an.uge0.8cnpra.IP) has joined #techrights [17:48] *schestowitz-TR (~acer-box@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [17:48] *phobos (~phobos@freenode/user/phobos) has joined #techrights [17:48] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [17:48] *rowbee (~augh@freenode-6n0.an1.6o3glj.IP) has joined #techrights [17:48] MinceR 24 184605 < matey> the apple stayed at the same height for millions of years until they were Pulled Down [17:48] MinceR Intelligent Falling [17:48] matey a great article from a once-great publication [17:49] matey exposing the truth that other newspapers were afraid to publish [17:49] MinceR also brings to mind: Dark Sucker Theory [17:49] matey not familiar with that one [17:49] MinceR http://www.rogermwilcox.com/darksucker.html [17:49] TR Bot The Dark Sucker Theory page [17:50] fuzzy almost forgot: "100 billion special military budget" [17:50] fuzzy round it round it goes, where it ends, noone knows [17:51] fuzzy seems, this new "german" government scraped the 1billion for intel out of the toilet where they shit coins into [17:53] matey if scientists ever do find dark matter, someone will surely blame it for all the universes problems [17:53] fuzzy suprise, if some candle light is placed near a magnet, the flame is bend by the electromagnetic field [17:53] matey "well, there goes the universe" [17:54] fuzzy in "science" "made in usa" this is called "black hole" [17:54] matey yeah i remember hawking talking about magnetic candles a lot [17:54] MinceR wow, they unified gravity with electro-weak interaction? [17:54] fuzzy no, i said a magnetic field bends the flame of a candle [17:54] matey right after he refuted "photons" as the childhood stories they were [17:54] MinceR and then said they call it a black hole [17:55] fuzzy which is the exact same phenomena of what is discussed as "black hole" and "dark matter" [17:55] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [17:55] MinceR [citation needed] [17:55] fuzzy however, an experiment doesn't require any more than a magnet, a candle flame, to proof the existence of it [17:55] matey psydruid, we are in the presence of true scientific greatness [17:56] matey heres a scientific mind that rivals einstein, and hes not even confined to a wheelchair [17:57] matey let me put it this way: have you ever heard of plato? aristotle? socrates? [17:57] matey morons! [17:58] matey here we have Un berkrout with a Truly Dizzying intellect [17:58] matey a mind of Messianic proportions [17:58] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg [17:58] TR Bot https://invidious.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg [17:59] TR Bot inv.bp.projectsegfau.lt | Blazing Saddles... You know, morons. - Invidious ● Jun 24 [18:00] matey ITS TWOO, ITS TWOO! [18:00] fuzzy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeeman_effect [18:00] TR Bot Zeeman effect - Wikipedia [18:00] fuzzy it wasn't an Ueberkraut, the scientist who described the phenomena was Dutch [18:01] TR News [Meme] You Cannot Protest Because... | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/meme-you-cannot-protest-because/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/meme-you-cannot-protest-because/ [18:01] TR Bot [Meme] You Cannot Protest Because | Techrights [18:02] matey "e = BS" fuZZy [18:03] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLPmmrofEg [18:03] TR Bot https://invidious.osi.kr/watch?v=DvLPmmrofEg [18:03] TR Bot invidious.osi.kr | MC Hawking - E=MC Hawking - Invidious [18:06] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zn7-fVtT16k [18:06] TR Bot Albert Einstein vs Stephen Hawking. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious [18:06] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc [18:06] TR Bot Carl Sagan - 'A Glorious Dawn' ft Stephen Hawking (Symphony of Science) - Invidious [18:07] TR News SpellBinding: GYILSTH Wordo: FACED gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-24.gmi [18:07] matey zweistein [18:07] matey for when einstein wont do [18:07] MinceR https://web.archive.org/web/20220615155747/https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/longevity-2 ( https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/longevity-2 ) [18:07] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Longevity [18:08] TR News Photogaphs And Fractals In Gemini, This Weeks Capsule Challenge gemini://tilde.team/~smokey/logs/2022-06-24-photos.gmi "Cats, nature, pictures of my smoking pieces, books, some art stuff, fractals." [18:08] fuzzy Zeeman, was his name, the scientist [18:08] TR News THE STOLEN BODY added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Stolen_Body.gmi [18:08] matey zeeman was zee man [18:08] fuzzy and i recall another name Birkeland, almost forgot... moment please [18:09] matey his brothers name was wyman and his other brother was in the x-men [18:09] fuzzy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristian_Birkeland [18:09] TR News "I try not to go onto the mainweb, and Gemini has been helpful there, but occasionally, there is no choice. I've been using the Waterfox browser for many years, as it seemed to be more privacy-oriented." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-24.waterfox.gmi we exposed its sale to system1 in techrights! [18:09] fuzzy almost forgot, need to read again, what Birkeland discovered [18:10] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:10] matey probably anti-gravity [18:11] matey or maybe the sonic screwdriver [18:11] matey to be fair, they also had plenty of USEFUL german scientists [18:11] matey just none that defected from the HOMELAND [18:11] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [18:11] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [18:11] fuzzy no, in northern europe, norway, solar winds illuminate the skies, north pole [18:11] fuzzy and this ignited speculation, and research [18:12] schestowitz_TR godel also left germany [18:12] schestowitz_TR even today many leave [18:12] schestowitz_TR the father of aws [18:13] schestowitz_TR but that's also because the government does not fund companies [18:13] schestowitz_TR instead it shelters patentr parasites like EPO [18:13] schestowitz_TR and the media paarticipates in the cover-up [18:13] schestowitz_TR maybe germany wants a capital of litigation in berlin or munich [18:13] schestowitz_TR they also sold out to microsoft there [18:13] schestowitz_TR that's a war by salesmen against scientists [18:13] schestowitz_TR and in munich the criminals got their way [18:14] schestowitz_TR of course it's easier to blame "the immigrants" [18:14] schestowitz_TR maybe one day germany will reain leadership [18:14] schestowitz_TR *regain [18:14] matey liedership? [18:14] schestowitz_TR liebershippen [18:15] matey "we vant to hire an autometen" [18:15] matey "oh, youre volunteering to go get some meat" [18:15] schestowitz_TR they had belinOS [18:16] matey "no need! ve have meat here, In Zee Buildeeng!" [18:16] schestowitz_TR and some key hosting outfits in berlin [18:16] schestowitz_TR but the berlin software scenes pales not just compared to usland but also east asia [18:16] schestowitz_TR and the regime seems to think getting millionf more patents is the answer [18:16] schestowitz_TR beause lobbyists of liitgation firms tell them so [18:18] TR News "Is COVID-19 a solved issue? No!" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/24/pandemic-blackout/ [18:18] TR Bot Blog Archive Weekly Mortality Reports Not Published for 15 Days Already, Information Blackout Does Not Tackle COVID-19 as Its Rebounding, Surging, and Killing People [18:18] TR News With only a few days left before national representatives meet in Munich to discuss the future of the Office its important to understand that they totally ignore the interests of Europe, the EPOs staff, and science/technology http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-pressurising-tactics/ [18:18] TR Bot EPO Staff at The Hague Complains of New Pressure Tactics and Survey Shows Less than 10% Think Office Policies Serve the EPOs Interests | Techrights [18:18] TR News Mr. social dialogue very nice guy Antnio Campinos failed to fulfill the peace mission or attain the calm he was assigned to deliver 4 years ago; the EPO is still in a state of crisis, but will national representatives care? Will they bag more bribes for not caring? http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/meme-you-cannot-protest-because/ [18:18] TR Bot [Meme] You Cannot Protest Because | Techrights [18:19] matey and in munich the criminals got their way [18:19] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YdUha2c5hv8 [18:19] TR Bot Visit a burger king in Germany - Invidious [18:19] fuzzy today, at employment agency, i asked for some office space [18:19] fuzzy and, i want to hire some staff [18:19] matey could you hire them with 4 billion reichsmark? [18:20] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=x5Uf3QKtuX0 [18:20] TR Bot Lumbergh | Office Space | Best Moments - Invidious [18:20] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kVmC0ktznNo [18:20] TR Bot Best Of Lumbergh - Invidious [18:20] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YYFO5qPpM_I [18:20] TR Bot Office Space Weekend Work - Invidious [18:20] fuzzy plus another 400billion reichsmark special military budget [18:20] schestowitz_TR https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GM205iK6rlg [18:20] TR Bot Peter Don't Give a Shit - Office Space Clip - Invidious [18:20] MinceR :> [18:22] schestowitz_TR informal clothing https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aoz3fFfq3Mw [18:22] TR Bot Gary Cole On Mr. Lumbergh From OFFICE SPACE - Invidious [18:22] schestowitz_TR that movie emulated many issues [18:22] schestowitz_TR inc. soft engs faking productivity aorund y2k [18:22] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=X2o-w0e1Xws [18:23] TR Bot "German science is the best in the world!" in different languages (French, German, Spanish etc.) - Invidious [18:23] matey its uncanny [18:23] schestowitz_TR german science. WOULD BE GREAT [18:23] fuzzy matey: "prussian academy of science" was german, french, and too Einstein was a member [18:24] matey o \ [18:24] matey o / [18:28] MinceR / o [18:28] MinceR \ o [18:28] MinceR oo [18:28] MinceR \/ [18:28] matey no the prussian academy of science logo was something like [18:29] matey /\/\/\ [18:29] matey /\/\/ [18:29] matey dammit [18:29] matey its hard to draw [18:29] MinceR lol [18:30] matey its meant to be a sine wave emanating from a german candle attracted by a dutch magnet [18:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:30] matey some people think it looks like a dyslexic swastika but its never been proven [18:30] schestowitz_TR there is unicode swastika [18:31] schestowitz_TR but not the german one [18:31] matey oh not unicode [18:31] schestowitz_TR there is also a Russian swastika [18:31] schestowitz_TR it's on my keyboard too [18:31] schestowitz_TR bottom left [18:31] matey yeah russian swastikas were originally used by texan guitarists with long beards [18:32] schestowitz_TR [18:32] matey they also played a flying V [18:32] schestowitz_TR [18:32] schestowitz_TR [18:32] schestowitz_TR UTIN [18:33] matey hardly [18:33] matey imo the swastika fits him better [18:33] schestowitz_TR Also commie [18:33] matey though some people might associate the hammer and sickle with stalin [18:34] schestowitz_TR http://www.personal.psu.edu/ejp10/blogs/gotunicode/2007/06/how-the-swastika-got-into-unic.html [18:34] TR Bot How the Swastika Got into Unicode - Got Unicode? [18:34] MinceR well, his last name already ends in a rotated zwastika if you use latin letters [18:34] matey commie commie commie commie commie chameleon [18:34] matey you cant come and go [18:34] MinceR and uppercase [18:34] schestowitz_TR "I reject using the symbol in a Neo-Nazi context, but in the spirit of trying to undo a crime of culture, I made some Swastika symbol samples from various Asian fonts. These aren't nearly as toxic." [18:34] matey because of the iron curtain [18:34] MinceR rotated in space [18:34] MinceR or something [18:34] *psydruid bows to the berkraut [18:35] MinceR will there also be berbraten? [18:35] *psydruid was out all day [18:35] matey his last name already ends in a rotated zwastika if you use latin letters <- or if you show the cyrillic letter in a mirror [18:35] psydruid selbstverstndlich [18:35] matey /me would love a sandwich [18:36] matey wait. what? [18:36] MinceR lol [18:37] matey $ selbstverstndlich [18:37] matey make it yourself [18:37] matey $ sudo selbstverstndlich [18:37] matey okay. [18:37] MinceR :> [18:37] MinceR make menuconfig not war [18:37] schestowitz_TR no targets founbd [18:37] schestowitz_TR (make) [18:38] matey "I made some Swastika symbol samples from various Asian fonts. These aren't nearly as toxic." [18:38] matey i know this is likely Problematic, but... [18:39] matey how is one set of right angles more "toxic" than another, when its made of the same kinds of pixels? [18:39] matey its all straight perpendicular lines, whether "asian" or "german" (okay, some are parallel) [18:39] matey but ive never been to california, and thats why i dont "get it" [18:40] MinceR maybe it's made from special pixels from India ("Aryan") [18:40] matey so dell and samsung pixels [18:41] matey technically both are asian [18:41] MinceR dHell didn't exist yet, back then [18:41] MinceR what a blessed time. [18:42] matey no, they were delhi back then [18:42] MinceR though a few million years earlier was even better, because back then there were no humans either [18:42] matey now theyre magically dell-icious [18:43] matey he should do a cameo. i think lucky could bring the brand back [18:43] matey dell still exists, right? [18:45] matey actaully i think they merged with "emc" [18:45] matey which has to be in quotes because... german science [18:47] matey /me figures "emc" is working with "intel" [18:48] MinceR sadly, dHell still exists [18:49] matey oh, scott, im glad youre here-- i was just dressing unironically as blofeld and unveiling my latest project, which i call "relativity" [18:49] MinceR apparently there's plenty of demand for low quality laptops with no warranty [18:49] *psydruid wonders what exactly took place during his absence [18:49] MinceR that's what the HISTORY command is for [18:49] matey dont read the scrollback without vodka and popcorn [18:49] MinceR lol [18:49] matey in whatever amounts suit you [18:49] MinceR also, we have logs on the website [18:49] psydruid I'll just read it on gemini [18:49] MinceR :> [18:50] matey I'll just read it on gemin <- its closer to apollo 13 [18:50] psydruid oh, now it's all clear to me [18:51] psydruid we will all be Germans or Russians soon [18:51] MinceR how [18:51] psydruid or both [18:51] matey prussians, actually [18:51] psydruid yes, Prussians [18:52] matey prussia! pushing down on you, pulling down all of-- the apples [18:52] matey dum dum dum! dum dum dum! da da dum! da da da dum! [18:53] MinceR prussians are gone [18:53] matey prussians are gone [18:53] matey <- its all relative [18:53] matey ^ [18:53] matey -> [18:54] MinceR the prussian language is gone, the prussian identity is gone [18:55] schestowitz_TR boney m [18:55] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YjaZNYSt7o0 [18:55] TR Bot "Russian Unicorn" a bad lip reading of Michael Bubl - Invidious [18:56] MinceR it was a baltic language, btw [18:58] matey theres a weird al parody of party in the usa, and a bad lip reading of party in the usa [18:58] matey but theres no bad lip reading of weird al-- YET [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [18:59] matey there is a rap battle where he plays isaac newton ● Jun 24 [19:00] matey where he talks about "energy" and laws of "motion" [19:00] matey and other crackpot pseudoscience [19:00] matey "inertia" pfffffft [19:01] matey if its "inert" its not moving! even i knew this in german preschool but somehow "universities" teach this nonsense [19:03] *MinceR throws a balloon filled with helium at matey [19:04] TR News 2,120 EPO Workers Sign Petition to the National Delegates, Who Can Put an End to EPO Abuses (But Repeatedly Fail to Do So) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/suepo-committees-vs-sap/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/suepo-committees-vs-sap/ [19:04] TR Bot 2,120 EPO Workers Sign Petition to the National Delegates, Who Can Put an End to EPO Abuses (But Repeatedly Fail to Do So) | Techrights [19:05] matey "from now on youll be history, youll be history" [19:05] matey "what the fuck, this isnt nitrous" [19:05] MinceR lol [19:05] MinceR what it is though, is inert :> [19:06] matey ooohhhhhhhh [19:06] matey @ @ [19:07] matey what happens if a midget breathes helium: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0629546/ [19:07] TR Bot & Order: Criminal Intent" Inert Dwarf (TV Episode 2004) - IMDb [19:08] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@ssswqhrzqqbyy.irc) has joined #techrights [19:09] matey they must be republicans https://www.universetoday.com/152467/white-dwarfs-can-continue-burning-hydrogen-even-after-theyre-dead/ [19:09] TR Bot White Dwarfs can Continue Burning Hydrogen, Even After They're Dead - Universe Today [19:10] matey this sounds like profiling https://exoplanets.nasa.gov/news/1679/fast-spinning-brown-dwarfs-may-reveal-a-rotational-speed-limit/ [19:10] TR Bot Fast-Spinning Brown Dwarfs May Reveal a Rotational Speed Limit Exoplanet Exploration: Planets Beyond our Solar System [19:11] matey if its not a speed limit its a busted tail light, etc [19:15] matey www.quora.com/Is-the-Sun-a-yellow-dwarf-or-a-red-dwarf?share=1 [19:15] matey Answer (1 of 9): The sun is known as a yellow dwarf. [19:15] matey scientists: bigoted af [19:18] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/24MorZd.jpeg [19:22] matey keckobservatory.org/mystery_object_neither_star_nor_brown_dwarf/ [19:22] matey The white dwarf in EF Eri is a compressed, burnt-out remnant of a solar-type star that is now about the same diameter as the Earth, though it still emits copious amounts of visible light. [19:22] matey white dwarf [19:22] matey "kekobservatory" [19:22] matey /me isnt fooled [19:23] matey i bet its in arizona [19:24] TR News [Meme] EPO All Backwards: Are National Delegates and the Administrative Council Just Puppets of the Office Theyre Meant to Govern? | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-puppets/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-puppets/ [19:24] TR Bot [Meme] EPO All Backwards: Are National Delegates and the Administrative Council Just Puppets of the Office Theyre Meant to Govern? | Techrights [19:25] *matey has quit (connection closed) [19:29] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166438 [19:29] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [19:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [19:44] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [19:58] *psydruid wonders who here is HP Dev No. One [19:59] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights ● Jun 24 [20:18] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-lord [20:18] TR Bot Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Lord [20:20] XRevan86 https://theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/23/russian-navy-ordered-to-lay-mines-at-ukraines-black-sea-ports-says-us [20:20] TR Bot Russian navy ordered to lay mines at Ukraines Black Sea ports, says US | Ukraine | The Guardian [20:25] TR News Stories of my Chieftain, Tinytusks gemini://yretek.com/english/tinytusks.gmi [20:26] TR News "The game was the first piece of apocalyptic media that really grabbed me; my computer could barely run it, but it was the first big budget game I followed closely during it's pre-release, in that nascent early period of mass marketing on the internet." gemini://pluviam95.smol.pub/entry5 [20:27] TR News "I've had my tape deck for around 4 months now, if memory serves. I don't know why I didn't opt in for one earlier, or how I did so long without one. For anybody who's interested in music production, or sound design, or audio science, a tape deck is a must-have." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1034 [20:28] TR News In The Case Of Online Classes gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/itco0 [20:29] TR News Security features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166439 [20:29] TR Bot Security features in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9 | Tux Machines [20:29] TR News Clapper GTK Video App Bags Performance Boost in Latest Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166440 [20:29] TR Bot Clapper GTK Video App Bags Performance Boost in Latest Update | Tux Machines [20:31] TR News The 5 Best Dictionary Apps for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166441 [20:31] TR Bot The 5 Best Dictionary Apps for Linux | Tux Machines [20:31] TR News Theres a considerable amount of pushback against Antnio Campinos with his ludicrous policies; staff does not want him or his policies http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/suepo-committees-vs-sap/ [20:31] TR Bot 2,120 EPO Workers Sign Petition to the National Delegates, Who Can Put an End to EPO Abuses (But Repeatedly Fail to Do So) | Techrights [20:31] TR News Next week the overseeing body of the EPO has a chance to prove its no longer subservient to the people it was supposed to regulate and control; its all backwards at the EPO, so crime is encouraged (for profit) and never punished for http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/epo-puppets/ [20:34] TR News Lightweight Internet communications with the simple Gemini Protocol http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/261/Gemini-Protocol [20:35] TR Bot Twins Linux Magazine [20:37] TR News "Clement Lefebvre gives a brief history of Linux Mint and thanks the community that has grown up around the distribution." http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2022/261/Linux-Mint [20:37] TR Bot Distro Walk Linux Mint Linux Magazine [20:40] *phobos has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[Savannah] [20:47] TR News Here We Go Again: Another Round of Changes Havent Solved the Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge https://publicknowledge.org/here-we-go-again-another-round-of-changes-havent-solved-the-problems-with-the-jcpa/ Source: publicknowledge [20:47] TR Bot Here We Go Again: Another Round of Changes Havent Solved the Problems with the JCPA - Public Knowledge [20:48] TR News [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/11] drm/i915: Add D3Cold-Off support for runtime-pm https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-June/300006.html Source: lists [20:48] TR Bot [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 00/11] drm/i915: Add D3Cold-Off support for runtime-pm [20:52] TR News The new classic confinement in snaps - Even the classics need a change | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-new-classic-confinement-in-snaps-even-the-classics-need-a-change Source: ubuntu [20:52] TR Bot new classic confinement in snaps Even the classics need a change | Ubuntu [20:53] TR News 6 Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/why-flatpaks-snaps-better-than-other-formats/ Source: makeuseof [20:53] TR Bot 6 Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for Linux [20:55] TR News Annotated Perl::Critic Policy Index | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/06/annotated-perlcritic-policy-index.html Source: perl [20:55] TR Bot Perl::Critic Policy Index | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org] [20:58] TR News KaOS Linux 2022.06 Is Here http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166345#comment-34125 [20:58] TR Bot KaOS 2022.06 | Tux Machines [20:58] TR News "Heres your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-25/ [20:58] TR Bot Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-25 Fedora Community Blog [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 33.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 12.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] TR News Classic Confinement in Snaps and Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166444 [20:59] TR Bot Classic Confinement in Snaps and Reasons Flatpaks and Snaps Are Great for GNU/Linux | Tux Machines ● Jun 24 [21:01] *Guest1686 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:01] schestowitz_TR gi Guest1686 [21:02] *Guest1686 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [21:02] *Guest1686 (~d8a05725@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [21:02] *Guest1686 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [21:05] TR News Linux Foundation lying about itself: "Founded in 2000..." no, it was founded 2007. LIE-NOX foundation https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/lf-edge-releases-industry-defining-edge-computing-white-paper-to-accelerate-edge-iot-deployments-301574909.html [21:05] TR Bot LF Edge Releases Industry-Defining Edge Computing White Paper to Accelerate Edge/ IoT Deployments [21:07] TR News Honestly, let's just remove -O3 entirely. Enabling it, and then not even build-testing the result, is just about the *worst* possible case. That's just horrible." https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CA+55aFz2sNBbZyg-_i8_Ldr2e8o9dfvdSfHHuRzVtP2VMAUWPg@mail.gmail.com/ [21:07] TR Bot Re: [PATCH 0/2] Kconfig: -O3 enablement - Linus Torvalds [21:11] TR News "Bash Simple Curses is a simple curses library made in bash to draw terminal interfaces." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4G_cthFZeJ8 [21:11] TR Bot Transform Your Scripts With Bash Simple Curses - Invidious [21:11] TR News PSPP 1.6.1 has been released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166445 [21:11] TR Bot PSPP 1.6.1 has been released | Tux Machines [21:12] DaemonFC Okay, I got a bunch of Guinness Extra Stout on rebate. [21:13] schestowitz_TR booze? [21:13] DaemonFC It's been a while since I've had Guinness. But I think I like this better than the Guinness Draught. [21:13] schestowitz_TR fattening and tastes baddd :-) [21:13] DaemonFC It tastes more of hops. [21:14] DaemonFC I don't like American beer too much. [21:14] TR News Ransomware groups targeting Mitel VoIP zero-day - The Record by Recorded Future https://therecord.media/ransomware-groups-targeting-mitel-voip-zero-day/ Source: therecord [21:14] TR Bot Ransomware groups targeting Mitel VoIP zero-day - The Record by Recorded Future [21:14] DaemonFC They tend to base them on the cheapest thing they can get their hands on, which is usually corn. [21:16] DaemonFC Very few hops in American beer. Just enough to be slightly bitter. So they have this overpowering sweetness to them from the corn. [21:16] DaemonFC Gonad drank that swill and so I did sometimes just because he went through so much he never noticed me stealing it. [21:17] DaemonFC So it was free and I wasn't old enough to buy alcohol, so that's what I drank. [21:17] TR News Notepadqq - A powerful text editor, somewhat forgotten Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166446 [21:17] TR Bot Notepadqq - A powerful text editor, somewhat forgotten | Tux Machines [21:18] TR News This Week in GNOME: #49 New Views Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166447 [21:18] TR Bot This Week in GNOME: #49 New Views | Tux Machines [21:18] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166448 [21:18] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:22] TR News todays leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166449 [21:22] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [21:23] TR News Links 24/06/2022: GNU PSPP 1.6.1 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/24/gnu-pspp-1-6-1/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/24/gnu-pspp-1-6-1/ [21:23] TR Bot Links 24/06/2022: GNU PSPP 1.6.1 | Techrights [21:24] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [21:25] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166450 [21:25] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:29] DaemonFC https://www.wane.com/news/police-search-for-impala-related-to-huntington-homicide/ [21:29] TR Bot dead, 2 hurt in stabbing in Huntington; suspect caught | WANE 15 [21:29] DaemonFC A third victim died. [21:29] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR, He killed 3 people and one is just barely hanging on, and he didn't use a gun. [21:29] DaemonFC It was a knife. [21:30] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-23.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-24.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:30] DaemonFC Maybe if he ran them over with his car the Democrats would demand a car control bill. [21:30] *oarion7 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [21:30] MinceR i thought the "democrats" had cars [21:30] *oarion7 (~anonymous@user/oarion7) has joined #techrights [21:30] DaemonFC You have to have a background check and be 21 to own a car, and if your family or some randome dickhead cop invokes red flag, they take your car away from you. [21:30] DaemonFC :) [21:30] DaemonFC MinceR, They do. [21:31] DaemonFC *random [21:33] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/roe-v-wade-overturned/indiana-leaders-react-to-roe-v-wade-decision/ [21:33] TR Bot Indiana leaders react to Roe v. Wade decision | WGN-TV [21:33] DaemonFC The Supreme Court decided today that women don't have the right to murder their children because they'll be an inconvenience. Maybe with a little planning, like contraception, or just s smidgen of self-control maybe, they won't be too affected by this. There is no constitutional right to murder. This was invented by Democrats in the 1970s and was allowed to go on for far too long. [21:34] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/20/stand-up-shorts-06-20-22/ [21:34] TR Bot 35 Stand-Up Jokes You Can Laugh At Without Setting Foot In A Comedy Club [21:35] XRevan86 https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-news-live-12541713?postid=4069892#liveblog-body "London will be bombed first in World War Three, Russian MP claims" [21:35] TR Bot Ukraine news live: Moscow official 'assassinated' in car bombing - as Putin 'rewrites history lessons' | World News | Sky News [21:35] MinceR if you think they'll be an inconvenience to parents who didn't want them, consider how much of an inconvenience the child's existence will be for the child [21:36] MinceR living on a planet infested with over 8 billion humans, in a human body [21:36] DaemonFC https://wgntv.com/news/wisconsin-doctors-halt-abortions-following-court-ruling/ [21:36] TR Bot Wisconsin doctors halt abortions following court ruling | WGN-TV [21:36] DaemonFC A doctor takes an oath to do no harm. Murdering someone is harm. Therefore, they are not doctors. Throw them in prison. [21:36] MinceR also, contraception is not murder [21:36] MinceR but i suppose that's too difficult for a fundie to understand [21:37] DaemonFC MinceR, Even Kevorkian was more ethical than an abortion doctor. [21:37] DaemonFC Abortion doctors don't ask their victims if they want to die and kindly go away if they don't want to, but Kevorkian still got into a lot of trouble. [21:37] MinceR what was unethical about Kevorkian? [21:38] MinceR you fundies are absolutely obsessed with making people suffer and keeping them that way [21:38] MinceR get some help. [21:38] DaemonFC Kevorkian didn't do anything wrong. [21:38] DaemonFC If the person didn't ask for his assistance then he wouldn't even be there in the first place. [21:38] MinceR also, try talking to a blastocyst [21:38] MinceR you won't get much of a response. [21:39] DaemonFC The only person who has the right to decide if they want to die is a person who is capable of considering that question and deciding that they want to. [21:40] DaemonFC Abortion is more like the Nazis not asking people if they wanted to die and then just putting a pillow on their face and sitting on it until they stopped struggling to breathe. [21:40] MinceR a blastocyst is not a person [21:40] DaemonFC I agree with the right to suicide, but not abortion. [21:40] MinceR you listen to way too much "republican" propaganda [21:40] DaemonFC It is very sad what happened to Robin Williams, but he had the right to do it. [21:41] DaemonFC Maybe there was a medical treatment that would have delayed progression of the disease, and maybe there wasn't. But it was his decision. [21:41] DaemonFC I think we need to respect decisions like that even if we disagree with them. [21:42] DaemonFC Most of us have no idea what we'd do in those situations because we don't have all of the information. We aren't in that exact situation. We don't know how many doctors he spoke with or what the prognosis was, or if there were more years of his life which could have been relatively normal and pain-free with modern medical care. [21:43] DaemonFC So I don't consider myself fit to stand in judgment over people who want assisted suicide. That's a choice they have to make for themselves. [21:44] DaemonFC What I do know is that there can be no right to murder. Murder is the killing of another without their consent. It can't be tolerated, it can't be allowed. [21:44] DaemonFC The people who do it should be hunted down like animals and have the entire law library thrown at them when they get in court. [21:46] DaemonFC I don't consider those two positions at odds with each other, and this is why. It all goes down to consent. And damn any society that comes up with their idea of what one human life is worth because of how intelligent they consider them to be. [21:46] MinceR then again, i guess christian fundamentalists are pushing so hard for the personhood of small clumps of mostly undifferentiated cells because they're afraid that they themselves would cease to be considered persons if some degree of coordinated neural activity was required [21:47] DaemonFC Essentially, what you have with a human fetus is a human being that doesn't have fully formed "programming" yet, but it's a person nonetheless. Left alone, it would be born, it would develop consciousness, it would have a certain level of intelligence. [21:47] DaemonFC At what point is disposing of this person wrong? [21:47] MinceR not if it had a "republican" upbringing [21:47] MinceR though i guess 0 is also a "certain level" ● Jun 24 [22:00] DaemonFC The law changes very little, in fact. [22:00] DaemonFC Those states had already passed so many regulations that many of them don't have a single abortion clinic remaining anyway. [22:01] DaemonFC Illinois has been putting a bunch of abortion clinics right on the state lines. [22:01] DaemonFC Basically, you can get from Houston to Chicago for $30, so it really doesn't put much of an additional burden except having to come up with some travel time and some pocket change. [22:03] DaemonFC It's more of a statement than a decision of substance. [22:03] DaemonFC Even when "RBG" was alive and refusing to retire so Obama could replace her, and then none of this would have happened, she allowed those states to do that. [22:17] DaemonFC There's no party for me, MinceR. The Democrats and the Republicans are both a bunch of shitheads. [22:17] DaemonFC There's nothing that's going to get better. [22:17] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/20/morning-funny-pic-dump-6-20-22/ [22:17] TR Bot Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics) [22:18] DaemonFC The Supreme Court has not upset the status quo very much even though they did upend a landmark case. [22:18] DaemonFC When Roe went in, abortion was only legal in four states. [22:18] DaemonFC Today it will still be legal in about half, and that's where over 80% of the population lives. [22:19] DaemonFC And it changes almost nothing because the clinics were gone in the states with trigger laws anyway. [22:21] DaemonFC schestowitz_TR, Yeah, I was joking with mom about Gonad. [22:21] DaemonFC I said he should have lived in Illinois. [22:21] DaemonFC Sure it's more expensive, but with all the beer rebates, he would have come out ahead in the end. [22:22] DaemonFC He drank so much beer that he could have gotten hundreds of dollars in rebates just one the beer. [22:22] DaemonFC He had a can crusher and a recycling bin in the garage and it wasn't because he cared about the environment. He drove an 8 mpg truck. [22:23] DaemonFC It was because he drank so much beer that he could fill a 30 gallon recycling bag quickly, take it over to the recycling facility over by Walmart, and buy more beer. [22:24] DaemonFC I think Illinois just wants people to be drunk and stoned so they don't think about the politicians and the judges too much. [22:25] DaemonFC If everyone in this state sobered up, we'd have ourselves a party where half the public officials would be hanged, and the other half would be tarred and feathered and then banished into Indiana. 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