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DaemonFC[m]I think Mark's parents don't seem like the type to max out credit cards on crap.Jul 24 00:00
DaemonFC[m]They were probably either victims of Maricel's identity theft schemes and Mark might have convinced them not to go to the cops if he could pay to put them in bankruptcy.Jul 24 00:00
DaemonFC[m]Or they might have charged Mark and Maricel's bills to the cards and then gone into bankruptcy trying to help them.Jul 24 00:00
DaemonFC[m]She poisons and controls everyone around her.Jul 24 00:02
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm considering going to a restaurant tomorrow.Jul 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]It was our anniversary yesterday and the best I could do was swing by McDonalds on the way back from Walmart.Jul 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]I'm turning into Trump as we speak.Jul 24 00:07
DaemonFC[m]File bankruptcy. Take the spouse to McDonalds for the anniversary. Jul 24 00:07
MinceRlolJul 24 00:07
schestowitzlolJul 24 00:08
schestowitznext year Jolly BeeJul 24 00:08
schestowitzeven cheaperJul 24 00:08
DaemonFC[m]I don't really care if anyone knows I filed.Jul 24 00:09
DaemonFC[m]Our president brags about bankruptcy .... like, "These people were stupid enough to give me money..... Several times!" "I'm _that_ good!".Jul 24 00:09
schestowitzthere you go, albert bundyJul 24 00:10
DaemonFC[m]Al Bundy was always kind of my hero anyway.Jul 24 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Now I live in Chicago and I'm broke and all my creditors took a bath.Jul 24 00:12
DaemonFC[m]I drive a broken down car with the service engine light on, cursing everyone on the expressway.Jul 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]I know exactly why that damned light is on.Jul 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]It's a cheap rubber hose that nobody makes anymore.Jul 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]They're going to have to "make a custom part" for it at the shop, which is....I have to leave it there so they can take a look and see to do about it.Jul 24 00:14
DaemonFC[m]I'm like "It's a hose.".Jul 24 00:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They had an entire episode where Al was looking for a part for the Dodge that nobody made anymore.Jul 24 00:15
DaemonFC[m]Remember that?Jul 24 00:15
DaemonFC[m]I actually drove over to Deerfield to see the house that was in the opening credits.Jul 24 00:16
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/13/161ea679ca4922a9.jpgJul 24 00:16
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: For a while, I even worked in a shoe warehouse.Jul 24 00:17
DaemonFC[m]With a fat lady.Jul 24 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Some people called her Little Debby.Jul 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]No, Little Debbie, like the snack cakes. Jul 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Then she had a friend who worked with her, who was also fat, but quite a bit shorter.Jul 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]So people called her Mini Debbie. Jul 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]It's not workplace harassment if you keep it between a few people and never specify who you're talking about. Apparently.Jul 24 00:19
DaemonFC[m]Well, anyway, Kia Finance can go get their money from John I guess.Jul 24 00:22
DaemonFC[m]The funny part is that he never seems to have changed the mailing address, so if he pays the loan off they'll send the title to me.Jul 24 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Probably just tear it up so he has to go pay $400 for a replacement title.Jul 24 00:24
DaemonFC[m]Well, I could either sit back and try to figure out how to make $405 car payments with $90 insurance each month for the next 5 years.Jul 24 00:26
MinceR...or?Jul 24 00:26
DaemonFC[m]Or deal with mom's old Impala throwing a fit every now and then. Jul 24 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Cost unknown.Jul 24 00:27
MinceR:>Jul 24 00:27
DaemonFC[m]If it doesn't do anything else this year then I'll have averaged $300 a month in the last 18 months instead of $500 to drive the Kia around.Jul 24 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Of course, I filed bankruptcy on a lot of that because the repairs went on a credit card.Jul 24 00:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Carrion, Civilization VI - Ethiopia Pack and Humble Bundle http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140220 [https://pleroma.site/objects/af56b753-2cf5-4dc0-8ba6-db73593124bc]Jul 24 00:29
DaemonFC[m]The problem with the Kia really was that John's name is on the title too.Jul 24 00:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: Discover, Krita and Gcompris http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140221 [https://pleroma.site/objects/480060e2-e5c2-4b3e-bb23-f0d21a2ab844]Jul 24 00:29
DaemonFC[m]So nothing was protecting me from maybe paying it off someday and then having him drive off with it.Jul 24 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Or demanding "his share" of the value and taking me to court.Jul 24 00:29
DaemonFC[m]Also, obviously you can't just pay the car payments on a credit card and tell the bankruptcy court "Well, here's what I did. Make the cards go away, but I'll be keeping the car please and thank you.".Jul 24 00:30
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I drove it around for a few months while the finance company was calling me "Where's our money!" 5 times a day.Jul 24 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Then had them repossess it. So shithead got to pay for all of that to get the car back so they wouldn't sue him.Jul 24 00:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: People everywhere are standing up for free software http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140222 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6725db17-0833-4c4b-9afe-c696c8414f36]Jul 24 00:34
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: When John was bullshitting me he said "I'll pay your fine.".Jul 24 00:35
DaemonFC[m]So the way I see it, I had to pay the government $1,200 for the misdemeanor. Jul 24 00:35
DaemonFC[m]He had to pay Kia $1,200 from while I wasn't paying them so that I could pay the fine. (Then $2,000 for the repo and re-delivery, late fees, and replacement plates.).Jul 24 00:36
DaemonFC[m]So yeah, he kept his promise.Jul 24 00:36
MinceR:>Jul 24 00:36
DaemonFC[m]That was very nice of him.Jul 24 00:36
DaemonFC[m]He called my lawyer because I wasn't talking to him.Jul 24 00:37
DaemonFC[m]I told my lawyer "Well, if he wasn't flapping his mouth to the police, perhaps the car payments would be going in.....but since Kia can't put me in prison.....priorities.Jul 24 00:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GCC 10.2 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140223 #gcc #gnu #freesw [https://pleroma.site/objects/09e6be0a-b993-428b-9a22-782317168e00]Jul 24 00:39
DaemonFC[m]"I'm going to cost you $5,000 in fines and legal bills alone, now why aren't you paying on this car?".Jul 24 00:39
DaemonFC[m]I paid the fines with money I had left that I borrowed from someone to pay the lawyer.Jul 24 00:40
DaemonFC[m]It was less about a plan than it was about planning to plan.Jul 24 00:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I noticed that Ubuntu LTS hangs back on the previous GCC release. Jul 24 00:44
DaemonFC[m]Probably for the best. Jul 24 00:44
DaemonFC[m]Fedora always brings in the latest. "Compiled code improvements.". Well, theoretically yes.Jul 24 00:44
DaemonFC[m]In practice, not knowing how the compiled code will actually behave because it's a brand new release might not be an improvement. Jul 24 00:45
MinceRit's in line with the rest of the shit they do, thoughJul 24 00:45
MinceRstability is not "modern"Jul 24 00:46
MinceRsecurity is also not "modern"Jul 24 00:46
DaemonFC[m]https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc/2019-04/msg00023.htmlJul 24 00:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gcc.gnu.org | Ulrich Weigand - [RFC/RFA] Obsolete Cell Broadband Engine SPU targetsJul 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m]"- There is no supported Cell/B.E. hardware any more."Jul 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the architecture is both terrifying, horrible, and patented.Jul 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m]I don't think that anyone will be interested in ever revisiting anything like it.Jul 24 00:47
schestowitz1100+ #covid19 deaths in US for third day in a row. Trump said these numbers were decreasing. Not to worry, Fox Noise will help back these lies by calling everyone "liar" (except their orange criminal).Jul 24 00:49
DaemonFC[m]It was overengineered and had extreme limitations.Jul 24 00:49
DaemonFC[m]It supported a lot of cores, but it would be nice if those were actual cores and not just "cores that could only do a few specialized tasks".Jul 24 00:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's both completely safe to open up, yet for some reason all of the federal buildings are closed and you might be able to call them on the phone.Jul 24 00:51
DaemonFC[m]"Dust", perhaps.Jul 24 00:52
DaemonFC[m]https://www.ibtimes.com/turkmenistan-orders-mask-wearing-combat-dust-3010391Jul 24 00:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.com | Turkmenistan Orders Mask-wearing To Combat 'Dust'Jul 24 00:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel Security and Graphics http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140224 [https://pleroma.site/objects/54a02e93-76db-426e-8786-165cea4c7259]Jul 24 00:52
MinceRlolJul 24 00:52
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I wish I did record Whirled News Tonight in Chicago answering my life problem question.Jul 24 00:53
DaemonFC[m]I said, "I'm from Indiana and we did thing a little different there. Is there a way to not spend 4 hours at the Chicago DMV?".Jul 24 00:54
MinceRsureJul 24 00:55
DaemonFC[m]So they formed a line and the guy in the front was the "DMV person" and the guy in back starts coughing uncontrollably, while other people who were confused and extremely apprehensive moved out of the way and let him past them while he kept saying "It's not contagious!".Jul 24 00:55
MinceRit starts with not going there in the first placeJul 24 00:55
MinceRlolJul 24 00:55
DaemonFC[m]Then he gets up to the "window" and the "DMV guy" say "Wow, you are the sickest looking person I've ever seen who does not work at the DMV. How can we help you?".Jul 24 00:56
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "it starts with not going there i"> Also an option! In Indiana.Jul 24 00:57
DaemonFC[m]They only want your money. You can give it to them online. It's not a TSA-style jobs program at the state level like it is in Illinois.Jul 24 00:57
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I am highly supportive of Trump's investigation into Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan.Jul 24 00:58
DaemonFC[m]They'll probably find 50 other felonies even if the energy scandal falls apart.Jul 24 00:58
DaemonFC[m]This guy's like the Vladimir Putin of Illinois. Jul 24 00:59
DaemonFC[m]He has no interest in being the governor because the governor has a two term limit, and it's just impossible to spend 40 years there making everyone terrified of you like it is where he's at now.Jul 24 00:59
DaemonFC[m]You can tell the other Democrats are both hoping that this investigation gets rid of Madigan but are also being cautious in case it doesn't. Jul 24 01:01
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #PHP 8.0.0 Alpha 3 available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140225 #programming [https://pleroma.site/objects/987d358d-5384-40e2-8802-4508b189ef6e]Jul 24 01:01
DaemonFC[m]He's not just the Speaker of the House. He's also Chair of the State Democratic Party.Jul 24 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Also, for decades. Jul 24 01:01
DaemonFC[m]He did the party structure much like the House.Jul 24 01:01
DaemonFC[m]Nothing happens unless he says so.Jul 24 01:01
DaemonFC[m]So while the Governor is technically in a higher office, he'll also be gone in 4-8 years, and Madigan is in control of the party and what can pass the House and reach the governor.Jul 24 01:02
DaemonFC[m]It has all the theater of Democracy with the fact being that one guy pretty much runs the whole state.Jul 24 01:03
DaemonFC[m]If you do anything he does not like, you're finished.Jul 24 01:03
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DaemonFC[m]That's why impeaching Blagojevich didn't fundamentally change Illinois at all.Jul 24 01:04
DaemonFC[m]The governor was a raging narcissist, but he wasn't really controlling much.Jul 24 01:04
DaemonFC[m]Governor Rauner found that out when he tried to change some things, so Madigan just had the legislature overrule about 200 of his vetos.Jul 24 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Including changing the entire income tax code.Jul 24 01:05
DaemonFC[m]Again, with some pretend Progressive structures. Everyone got a tax hike, but if you were in the upper middle class you got three tax hikes.Jul 24 01:06
DaemonFC[m]Eh who cares. They have money. Good for them.Jul 24 01:06
DaemonFC[m]They managed to live in Illinois and have money and now that will be rectified.Jul 24 01:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm going to vote yes on the next tax hike.Jul 24 01:07
DaemonFC[m]I'll cut ours a little and leave a $4,000 flaming bag of dog shit on Maricel's front door each year.Jul 24 01:08
DaemonFC[m]I'm not seeing a downside.Jul 24 01:08
DaemonFC[m]Illinois Policy has been intensely lobbying against it saying there's no limit on what the brackets can be. Well, there is no limit now other than the fact that there's one bracket. So to raise money you have to hurt a lot of poor people to do it.Jul 24 01:09
DaemonFC[m]---Jul 24 01:10
DaemonFC[m]It's interesting to see things that are regarded as something "low class", "possibly criminal", or maybe "that person has cancer" turn into a fad.Jul 24 01:11
DaemonFC[m]Just shaving your head is now something tons of rich people do.Jul 24 01:11
DaemonFC[m]How did that happen?Jul 24 01:11
DaemonFC[m]Rich people are trying to "live simpler lives", but the ads are convincing people like Maricel that they need to ruin themselves and their families trying to buy more products.Jul 24 01:12
DaemonFC[m]It's kind of perverse that people like Mitt Romney are bragging about reading 99 cent books and Jeff Bezos is shaving his head, and Dad and Jan always have a dragon's hoard and they're drinking cheap Walmart coffee and wearing cheap Walmart shoes and driving an older Impala than mine with half a million miles on it.Jul 24 01:14
DaemonFC[m]But you have other people who can't afford what they wants doing ridiculous and criminal things to get more, and they're never happy. Jul 24 01:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The thing that disgusts me the most about Mandy is that nobody ever taught him frugality or maturity or anything.Jul 24 01:16
DaemonFC[m]He came up to me and started wanting an iPhone 12 or something, so I read into it and it turns out this new SE thing can do almost everything the 12 can. I won the argument. There was going to be an iPhone.Jul 24 01:17
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Well, you'll be using that for about 5 years.".Jul 24 01:17
schestowitzmust be the influenceJul 24 01:17
schestowitzthe surroundingsJul 24 01:17
schestowitzcut off the  ambicio sa'ng baki Jul 24 01:18
DaemonFC[m]Last night, he was trying to tell me to get a new phone. I said, "Why would I do that? The longer I can wait, the nicer the new one will be, and I can save money waiting.".Jul 24 01:18
schestowitzbad, bad influenceJul 24 01:18
schestowitzcareer-climbing posersJul 24 01:18
DaemonFC[m]I showed him that phrase.Jul 24 01:18
DaemonFC[m]He said he didn't recognize the words.Jul 24 01:19
schestowitzmaybe different dialectJul 24 01:19
schestowitzcebuanoJul 24 01:19
DaemonFC[m]I don't use the phone like he does.Jul 24 01:19
schestowitzI have a 10-pound phoneJul 24 01:20
DaemonFC[m]It's basically a giant "MP3 player" with GPS and phone calls and a web browser.Jul 24 01:20
schestowitzit makes and receives calls, it's wirelessJul 24 01:20
schestowitzit's... a landlineJul 24 01:20
schestowitzand it doesn't costJul 24 01:20
schestowitzmaybe a pound a monthJul 24 01:20
schestowitzfor calls I must make, usually some inquiriesJul 24 01:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I remember early 90s, mom wanted to sleep in on her day off sometimes and didn't want the hospital to call and ask her to come in.Jul 24 01:22
DaemonFC[m]So she left the phone in the kitchen off the hook all night.Jul 24 01:22
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Now we have texts so that Maricel can make idle threats until you change your phone number.Jul 24 01:23
DaemonFC[m]I don't blame people for burning down 5G towers.Jul 24 01:23
psydreadI'm using a 4-year old phone with a free rom and only f-droid apps on it. It works better than with the software it originally came with and I'm only using it because I shut down my laptop a few hours ago and it's the middle of the night nowJul 24 01:24
DaemonFC[m]I'd be pretty mad too if I just bought this fucking phone last month and now they're going "Well, we're upgrading our network and those new phones we put on the shelf last month won't work anymore. Time for an upgrade!".Jul 24 01:24
MinceRlolJul 24 01:24
DaemonFC[m]I might go burn a 5G tower if that happened.Jul 24 01:24
DaemonFC[m]It's bad enough I'm getting texts from Sprint with videos from T-Mobile's CEO attached and every time I say STOP or block the number, there's more from a new number.Jul 24 01:25
DaemonFC[m]"Maricel is the new Sprint!"Jul 24 01:25
DaemonFC[m]"With Maricel you can have 5G!"Jul 24 01:25
DaemonFC[m]I know what's happening here. It's not COVID. It's that $700 phone that's a month old not going to work anymore with 5G so they're burning the towers down.Jul 24 01:26
DaemonFC[m]People in Chicago were burning the red light cameras because of $100 tickets. So yeah.Jul 24 01:27
DaemonFC[m]If each person with an obsoleted cell phone burns down just 7 5G towers, we won't have a nationalized 5G network. I can think of about a million reasons Trump would be interested in the government running the 5G network, and none of them are good.Jul 24 01:28
psydreadit's funny but if you had pretty much everything you ever wanted as you grew up, you don't mind living within modest means later on, whereas those who had very little when they were young crave all these expensive things they don't actually needJul 24 01:29
DaemonFC[m]It was simpler times when I was a small child.Jul 24 01:29
DaemonFC[m]Everything you ever wanted was usually a small TV in your room and a NES or Sega.Jul 24 01:29
DaemonFC[m]Maybe a bicycle.Jul 24 01:29
DaemonFC[m]Nobody was worse off from not having freemium games and Facebook..Jul 24 01:30
DaemonFC[m]In fact, you take that away from them now and they might be a little less deranged. Jul 24 01:30
DaemonFC[m]There's really nothing wrong with delivering pizzas for a living.Jul 24 01:31
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psydreadI was happy with my MSX home computer, which lasted me for many years. I didn't even work with a PC until the late 90sJul 24 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Never met someone with a chip on his shoulder and a LinkedIn account who did it though.Jul 24 01:32
DaemonFC[m]$20,000 in student loans for "political science" studies.Jul 24 01:32
DaemonFC[m]At just enough of a pace to never graduate and have the loans come fully due.Jul 24 01:32
DaemonFC[m]That guy was a real piece of work.Jul 24 01:33
DaemonFC[m]<psydread "I was happy with my MSX home com"> Well, I got dad's hand me downs.Jul 24 01:33
DaemonFC[m]So through most of the 1990s, I had a C64.Jul 24 01:33
DaemonFC[m]I liked it better than DOS. I can tell you that much.Jul 24 01:34
DaemonFC[m]The Gold Box D&D games had DOS and C64 ports and it was kind of funny really.Jul 24 01:34
DaemonFC[m]The C64 ran them just fine even with 64K total RAM and a 1.77 Mhz CPU.Jul 24 01:35
DaemonFC[m]You didn't really need a special monitor. It had a TV output. Jul 24 01:35
schestowitz[01:24] <DaemonFC[m]> I'd be pretty mad too if I just bought this fucking phone last month and now they're going "Well, we're upgrading our network and those new phones we put on the shelf last month won't work anymore. Time for an upgrade!".Jul 24 01:36
DaemonFC[m]People are starting to get the whole "Oh it's a video game machine with a web browser and some software." again, unfortunately I do believe Microsoft's XBOX market is doing well.Jul 24 01:36
schestowitzactually  older protocols are backward-compatible and supported for a long timeJul 24 01:36
schestowitzunless you use a device like 15 years old, it ought to still workJul 24 01:36
schestowitzeven some 20-y-o phones still work with today's antenna towersJul 24 01:37
DaemonFC[m]Why is AT&T saying they'll drop some phones that are less than a year old and blaming 5G then?Jul 24 01:37
DaemonFC[m]Oh what am I saying? It's AT&T.Jul 24 01:37
schestowitzno ideaJul 24 01:37
schestowitzsounds improbableJul 24 01:37
schestowitzmaybe a sales pitchJul 24 01:38
schestowitzmaybe "some features may not be supported"Jul 24 01:38
DaemonFC[m]I'm still using a CDMA carrier with LTE as a total hack....so.....Jul 24 01:38
DaemonFC[m]I just got Mandy's phone so I'll be outraged if they cut that off.Jul 24 01:38
DaemonFC[m]I suspect it will support the frequency bands they intend to keep.Jul 24 01:39
DaemonFC[m]It was just released in April.Jul 24 01:39
psydreadweren't fewer phones being sold each year as everyone who wants a phone already has one or more of those?Jul 24 01:39
MinceR(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53me-ICi_f8&feature=youtu.beJul 24 01:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Uncle Roger DISGUSTED by this Egg Fried Rice Video (BBC Food) - YouTubeJul 24 01:41
DaemonFC[m]<psydread "weren't fewer phones being sold "> Yes, that was actually in some investment articles (premium) that I was reading.Jul 24 01:42
DaemonFC[m]You have idiots like Cramer saying buy Apple they'll never do anything wrong.Jul 24 01:42
DaemonFC[m]Then behind a paywall, the real advice is "This is a stock you'd only own because of dividends or buyback anticipation.".Jul 24 01:43
DaemonFC[m]They're not losing money, they just don't have growth products because they gutted their R&D pipeline to do share buybacks.Jul 24 01:43
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft, on the other hand, is mostly in trouble.Jul 24 01:43
DaemonFC[m]They had their "AOL in the dotcom bubble" stupid acquisitions.Jul 24 01:44
DaemonFC[m]Most was just frittering money away.Jul 24 01:44
DaemonFC[m]At the same time, they were taking on debt to do share buybacks, which should be illegal but it's not.Jul 24 01:44
DaemonFC[m]I think they're too big to be carved up by a bankruptcy court, but so was AOL. They ended up becoming cheap enough that Verizon bought them for their remaining assets. Jul 24 01:45
DaemonFC[m]So I think people are going to lose a lot on Microsoft and then they might be a victim of a takeover once they reach a value floor.Jul 24 01:46
DaemonFC[m]They tried to expand into a lot of things that just don't make money.Jul 24 01:46
DaemonFC[m]Or where there were already better choices on the market.Jul 24 01:46
DaemonFC[m]For now, they're doing piecemeal layoffs because they have to admit to what's going on in an SEC report sooner or later.Jul 24 01:47
DaemonFC[m]Breaking it off into chunks makes each chunk less attention grabbing than having a financial site get a SEC report saying they fired like 10,000 people.Jul 24 01:48
schestowitzthey don't fire per seJul 24 01:49
schestowitzbecause they don't count these peopleJul 24 01:49
schestowitzsee the link about contractsJul 24 01:49
DaemonFC[m]They'll put it in the SEC report eventually, but in forward guidance, they'll just reiterate the optimization and realignment and SEC report-speak.Jul 24 01:49
schestowitzthey put the staff on contractJul 24 01:49
schestowitzthen they let it lapseJul 24 01:49
schestowitzso they don't need to report who comes and leavesJul 24 01:49
schestowitzseveral Microsoft employees spoke about this onlineJul 24 01:50
schestowitzlike mixer onesJul 24 01:50
schestowitzthey get rid of people without counting themJul 24 01:50
schestowitzthis is the direction many fake companies go towardsJul 24 01:50
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, after Thomson fired my dad in a round of layoffs of their engineers in 2000, they hired him back as a contractor.Jul 24 01:50
schestowitzMicrosoft has done this for at least 12  yearsJul 24 01:50
schestowitztemps and contactsJul 24 01:50
schestowitzEPO does this too nowJul 24 01:50
schestowitzthe concept of employment is changing Jul 24 01:51
DaemonFC[m]They paid him close to what he made before the layoff, but it was like a year at a time until their outsourcing to Mexico was set up.Jul 24 01:51
schestowitzit's like "gig economy"+Jul 24 01:51
schestowitz+ because you have temporarily assured incomeJul 24 01:51
schestowitzthen the contract endJul 24 01:51
schestowitzendsJul 24 01:51
DaemonFC[m]So he actually helped them outsource to Mexico then voted Trump because of all the outsourcing.Jul 24 01:51
DaemonFC[m]Figure that out..Jul 24 01:51
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: In the end, I guess he wasn't wrong. Mexico didn't keep the jobs they got from Indiana.Jul 24 01:52
schestowitzTrump is outsourcingJul 24 01:52
schestowitzhis own bizJul 24 01:52
DaemonFC[m]Thomson left the CE business and then sold the brand off to China, who got rid of the plants in Mexico.Jul 24 01:52
schestowitzhe also insources the cheap labourJul 24 01:52
schestowitzwhile posing on visa policyJul 24 01:52
DaemonFC[m]So they paid my dad to live in Mexico for three years and work on that, and then it didn't last long.Jul 24 01:53
DaemonFC[m]But he got paid for a few more years.Jul 24 01:53
schestowitzhis actions aren't consistent with the policies, it's all rhetoricJul 24 01:53
DaemonFC[m]So I think he got the better end of the deal.Jul 24 01:53
schestowitzhis generation was still better offJul 24 01:53
schestowitzgnJul 24 01:53
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, for a few reasons.Jul 24 01:54
DaemonFC[m]They got the skills to keep working and putting food on the table for the "gap" until they retire and live off their children and ruin the country.Jul 24 01:54
DaemonFC[m]What the Boomer generation did to their children is worse in many cases than going to the abortion clinic.Jul 24 01:55
MinceRnot surprisingJul 24 01:56
MinceRit's generally better to never have been than to live in this hell as a humanJul 24 01:56
DaemonFC[m]My guess is that the unemployment rate (even the headline one) soars very soon and the bankruptcy wave hits. The Senate Republicans are talking about how we can't afford "unemployment income to be a hammock" so they're going to take away not only the extra $600 a week people get now, but reduce the underlying benefit by perhaps 10%.Jul 24 01:57
DaemonFC[m]So it's worse than just letting the stipend expire, which is what was going to cause the economy to fail already.Jul 24 01:57
DaemonFC[m]You can always count on the Republicans to slip something like this in during 30% unemployment and wag the finger of personal responsibility in their latest bailout to Capital One and Trump hotels.Jul 24 01:58
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I think more people will need bankruptcy and I don't blame them at all for filing.Jul 24 01:59
DaemonFC[m]Look what these megabanks do to us over and over.Jul 24 01:59
DaemonFC[m]File now while the Democrats are smart enough to stay away from any talk about "personal responsibility bankruptcy reform 2.0".Jul 24 01:59
DaemonFC[m]You're supposed to live within your means while the country goes deeper and deeper into the shitter and Trump complains about looting during his 30% unemployment. How does that work?Jul 24 02:01
psydreadI know of a few relatives and friends of those who have recently taken their lives in Suriname, because they've been hit more by the lack of income than covid itselfJul 24 02:02
DaemonFC[m]"When the looting starts, the shooting starts!"Jul 24 02:02
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, kill a bank.Jul 24 02:02
DaemonFC[m]<psydread "I know of a few relatives and fr"> I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, that's what's about to really start up here.Jul 24 02:02
psydread"no way out, so let's drive to the bridge"Jul 24 02:02
DaemonFC[m]I suspect that Trump wants the stipends to end so that crime will shoot way up and he can send more "unmarked vans" with masked thugs out.Jul 24 02:03
DaemonFC[m]Campaign stunt. Truly sick guy.Jul 24 02:03
DaemonFC[m]The sad part is that schestowitz might be right that my in laws are in trouble. People can't go get cancer treatment if they lost their job and they're part of the 7 million people who can't get health insurance because Trump refused to open the exchanges.Jul 24 02:07
DaemonFC[m]So while I with that their finances would collapse (the in laws) after everything they've done, it'll be because Trump took health insurance away and more people started rationing/skipping medical care.Jul 24 02:08
DaemonFC[m]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53521896Jul 24 02:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump scraps Republican convention in virus 'flare-up' - BBC NewsJul 24 02:10
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kingoffrancewould if they would even mentino the fractional reserve hammocks lolJul 24 02:22
kingoffrancethey got golden hammocksJul 24 02:22
kingoffrancethat grow other peoples money on themJul 24 02:22
kingoffrancei dont pretend to know finance stuff but its juts idiotic if you have any basic ideaJul 24 02:23
kingoffranceits all handwavingJul 24 02:23
kingoffrancehey look over there!Jul 24 02:23
DaemonFC[m]Actually it's worse.Jul 24 02:24
DaemonFC[m]Banks are now at Zero Reserve Banking.Jul 24 02:25
DaemonFC[m]The Fed just gives them a direct line and reduced their deposit requirements because people were hoarding cash.Jul 24 02:25
DaemonFC[m]So basically zero reserve.Jul 24 02:25
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kingoffrance:/Jul 24 02:32
kingoffrancei dont pretend to know modern economy  "requirements" but just looks like one of those non-depth-all-image things "hammocks"Jul 24 02:32
kingoffrancethey do this all the timeJul 24 02:33
kingoffrancei dont know if you "need" that ...i know they dont like to talk about it becaues it makes them look like giant hypocritesJul 24 02:33
kingoffranceand normal person wouldnt trust themJul 24 02:34
DaemonFC[m]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-banks-results-deposits/u-s-bank-deposits-not-worth-what-they-were-before-covid-19-idUSKCN24L181Jul 24 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. bank deposits not worth what they were before COVID-19 - ReutersJul 24 02:34
DaemonFC[m]It incentivizes banks to make riskier investments with deposits in order to make up for the loss in returns on safer investments that they normally make. Jul 24 02:34
DaemonFC[m]In any degree of risk, some of your investments will go bust. Theoretically, US government debt has no risk of not being repaid, but you are subject to risk. Inflation risk.Jul 24 02:35
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: The banks sort customers out by risk and assign an interest rate to loaned money based on that risk and what it will theoretically take to return the desired profit margin.Jul 24 02:37
DaemonFC[m]So a credit card might only cost you 8% interest if you have a FICO score of 820.Jul 24 02:37
DaemonFC[m]But if you have a 700, it'll be 18%.Jul 24 02:37
DaemonFC[m]If you have a 600, you start getting into "bottom feeder" cards where it's like 30% and an annual fee.Jul 24 02:38
DaemonFC[m]Well, I think at 720 FICO about 5-6% of your customers will eventually fuck you and then you can sue some of them and get it back and others go to bankruptcy court. Jul 24 02:39
DaemonFC[m]It's ultimately based on percentage who default and then what percentage of those are sold to collections or kept in house and at what rate.Jul 24 02:40
DaemonFC[m]Banks like to get away from your credit card accounts without directly suing you, the majority of the time.Jul 24 02:40
DaemonFC[m]Citi sold off my account after 3 months. Capital One sold off the one that was too big to take me to small claims over after 6 months.Jul 24 02:40
DaemonFC[m]Capital One kept the one they could take to small claims in house, and so they still owned it when I filed bankruptcy. Jul 24 02:41
DaemonFC[m]One reason they sell off most of the accounts if they don't think you have assets is because, well there's lots of reasons.Jul 24 02:42
DaemonFC[m]1. Suing people a lot and getting nasty and breaking the law is something you want to outsource to some company nobody likes anyway. Protects the bank's reputation.Jul 24 02:42
DaemonFC[m]2. You leave with something. The collection trolls buy accounts up for about 1/4-1/3 of what's owed and then try to collect the full amount.Jul 24 02:43
DaemonFC[m]3. If you force your defaulting customer into bankruptcy you're out the money for the lawsuit and what they didn't pay you, and if you got anything from them, the trustee will demand it back and he'll split it up with the other creditors.Jul 24 02:44
DaemonFC[m]So suing people is a lot of work and it costs a lot of money.Jul 24 02:44
kingoffrancehttp://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=robberJul 24 02:45
DaemonFC[m]If you walk away from a pile of bills, it will probably happen eventually. Might take a year or two.Jul 24 02:45
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DaemonFC[m]So you'll need to figure on filing bankruptcy. It's usually best to do it after all of the revolving accounts have charged off.Jul 24 02:45
kingoffrance""Once there was a Farmer-General of the Revenues."  Saying nothing more, he was encouraged to continue.  "That," he said, "is the story.""Jul 24 02:46
DaemonFC[m]About 6 months after your first missed payment..Jul 24 02:46
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DaemonFC[m]Bankruptcy is a pretty invasive process.Jul 24 02:46
DaemonFC[m]It's public record, you have to open all your books and tell the court who you owe and how much.Jul 24 02:46
DaemonFC[m]Then they asset strip you down to what the law allows you to keep and the rest goes away.Jul 24 02:47
DaemonFC[m]It's a super weapon you can use no more than once every 8 years. Jul 24 02:49
DaemonFC[m]That's 8 years from the filing, not the discharge. Jul 24 02:50
DaemonFC[m]They tend to happen most often when the economy is ruined.Jul 24 02:50
DaemonFC[m]Oddly enough that happens about every decade.Jul 24 02:51
DaemonFC[m]So if it takes 6 months to get a discharge, you're 7.5 years out from being able to file at that point. Jul 24 02:51
DaemonFC[m]I think 1987-2008 was the longest we went without a Jul 24 02:52
DaemonFC[m]There were some recessions in there, but I certainly didn't have trouble finding a job because of the dotcom crash.Jul 24 02:53
DaemonFC[m]Everyone remembers the dotcom crash because of all of the stupid Wall Street stories. Jul 24 02:53
DaemonFC[m]Same with 2008.Jul 24 02:53
DaemonFC[m]That one led to major and lasting problems in the real economy though.Jul 24 02:54
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: Well, Warren Buffet isn't bad at being an investor because he's a very conservative and patient one that doesn't really like high risk stuff that doesn't have an obvious application.Jul 24 02:55
DaemonFC[m]So you'd never see him saying good things about Tesla and Uber.Jul 24 02:55
DaemonFC[m]Everyone's like, "Why is he so good?". Well, he doesn't throw his money away on crapJul 24 02:55
DaemonFC[m]The Saudis "invested" in Uber. I kind of laughed about that.Jul 24 02:56
DaemonFC[m]They have a lot of oil money and they're looking for something more real. Their oil fields are in decline. Jul 24 02:56
DaemonFC[m]The Saudi Aramco privatization and the government budget cuts can be blamed on a "price war" if you want, but it's not the truth.Jul 24 02:57
DaemonFC[m]The virus is just killing everything, and zombie corps and dotcom bubble 2.0 crap like Uber is hurting bad.Jul 24 02:59
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the gulf state and KSA made many bad investmentsJul 24 07:14
schestowitzinc. in football and airlinesJul 24 07:14
schestowitzboth of which suffer profoundly at the momentJul 24 07:14
schestowitzI agree with what you say about uber, remember they also invested in Twitter for a long timeJul 24 07:15
schestowitznow it feels like a troll farm sometimesJul 24 07:15
schestowitzvery, very low quality stuff in Twitter nowJul 24 07:15
schestowitztiming of aramco privitisation likely beneficial to the saudi regimeJul 24 07:16
schestowitzas now wrt to losses and who foots the bill, it'll be public investorsJul 24 07:16
schestowitzthey overpaid for an obsolete thing that can still pull oil from the ground but then struggles to sell itJul 24 07:17
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Covid-19 if the adverage death rates in the USA stay the same Covid-19 is now a shoe in for the fifth most likely cause of death in the USA.Jul 24 08:21
oiaohmBy end of year it could be 3 or 4 Jul 24 08:21
kingoffrancewell i thuoght news was soundbites, and tv.  twitter i never expected it would ever be anything elseJul 24 08:28
kingoffranceunless they start doing shorthand all you can do in 80 chars is troll pplJul 24 08:28
kingoffrancetheres no room for depthJul 24 08:28
schestowitzbill smells money again  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8551511/Bill-Gates-warns-multiple-doses-vaccine-against-coronavirus-necessary.htmlJul 24 08:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates warns that multiple doses of any vaccine against coronavirus may be necessary | Daily Mail OnlineJul 24 08:30
schestowitzturns him on more than Epstein doesJul 24 08:30
oiaohmschestowitz: problem is the term "robust immune response"   This can mean a vaccine that you get a 42C fever and almost die just from the vaccine.   That was a robust immune response.Jul 24 08:34
schestowitzhttps://www.lja.fr/lja-mag/les-debats/protection-de-linnovation-le-sursaut-francais-527703.php battistelli puff pieceJul 24 08:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lja.fr | Jul 24 08:35
schestowitzshown here also: https://information.patentepi.org/issue-2-2018/celebration-of-the-40th-anniversary-of-epi.htmlJul 24 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-information.patentepi.org | epi Information | Celebration of the 40th anniversary of epiJul 24 08:36
oiaohmIts really simple to forgot cowpox that was a live virus that was used as a vaccine against smallpox.   Yes it was effective but it did have it own death toll.   Some of the proposed vaccines against covid-19 are these live class of vaccines.   Your yearly flu vaccine and the common vaccines we take are dead vaccines.Jul 24 08:37
oiaohmMostly from the leason of cowpox side effects why live vaccine treatment was removed.Jul 24 08:38
schestowitzhttps://www.ifia.com/news/unified-patent-court-conference/Jul 24 08:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ifia.com | Unitary Patent and Unified Patent Court conferenceJul 24 08:48
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kingoffrancehttps://www.theregister.com/2020/07/22/slack_versus_teams/Jul 24 13:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Only EU can help us, pleads Slack as it slings competition complaint against Microsoft Teams • The RegisterJul 24 13:07
kingoffrance"They created a weak, copycat product and tied it to their dominant Office product, force installing it and blocking its removal, a carbon copy of their illegal behavior during the 'browser wars.'"Jul 24 13:08
kingoffrancehttps://www.theregister.com/2020/07/23/vmware_offensive_terminology_style_guide/Jul 24 13:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | VMware to stop describing hardware as ‘male’ and ‘female’ in new terminology guide • The RegisterJul 24 13:10
kingoffranceim not sure "jack" "socket" "plug" is any less "offensive" (i use that term loosely)Jul 24 13:10
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sebsebsebMinceR: AppleJul 24 13:24
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schestowitzsebsebseb: of your eyesJul 24 15:27
schestowitzMinceR: seb has a crush on youJul 24 15:28
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MinceRschestowitz: yeahJul 24 15:50
schestowitzkingoffrance: thanks for the linksJul 24 16:07
schestowitzkingoffrance: the gender analogy can help a lotJul 24 16:08
schestowitzI never met anyone whom it offendedJul 24 16:08
schestowitzexcept maybe activists who are not sure what they are and pick on people who still shock them with words like male and femaleJul 24 16:09
schestowitzthose terms don't even imply male dominationJul 24 16:09
schestowitzheck, maybe vmware even thinks calling screws and bolts "dicks" and "vagina" would likely offend FEWER peopleJul 24 16:10
schestowitzVMware has REAL issues to answer to http://techrights.org/2020/04/28/openwashing-vmware-after-gpl-abuses/Jul 24 16:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Helped VMware Lie About Its Deliberate GPL Violations That are Connected to Microsoft, Another Prolific GPL Violator | TechrightsJul 24 16:11
schestowitzBut.... those issues are more difficult to addressJul 24 16:11
schestowitzlike removing a million lines of good code from your productJul 24 16:11
schestowitzsome some "find and replace" on a documentation page is a lot fasterJul 24 16:11
schestowitzAdults who blush and feel flushed because a gender is mentioned need to grow upJul 24 16:13
schestowitzmaybe maturity, not gender, is their issueJul 24 16:13
schestowitzlike kids who get all red in the cheeks before the teacher said something in sexual education classJul 24 16:13
schestowitz*becauseJul 24 16:13
schestowitzMinceR: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/budapest-2002-1478788.jpgJul 24 16:23
*XRevan86 suddenly wonders why there are no spiky buildings like that in St. Petersburg.Jul 24 16:23
XRevan86Is it a predominantly Catholic design?Jul 24 16:24
MinceRprobably notJul 24 16:24
schestowitzUrban designJul 24 16:24
schestowitzwith an accent on the UJul 24 16:24
MinceRafaik fundamentalism wasn't as hip or cool when it was builtJul 24 16:24
XRevan86ÜrbanJul 24 16:28
schestowitzVicar UrbanJul 24 16:29
schestowitzkeep your kids away from himJul 24 16:30
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DaemonFC[m]Well, Walgreens says they still take passport photos. So I guess I get to take Mandy over there if I can ever get him off his phone.Jul 24 18:33
DaemonFC[m]Maybe I should just pull a Maricel and remote brick it whenever I want him to do something.Jul 24 18:33
DaemonFC[m]That's how he starts gaining compliance from the kids. First all the electronics stop working.Jul 24 18:35
DaemonFC[m]Then she dials it up to 11 and starts pulling people around by the hair. Then her husband has been broken from getting involved due to bloody nose. Wonderful parenting. Jul 24 18:35
DaemonFC[m]He learned that if he doesn't get in on the Two Minutes Hate whenever she's verbally abusing someone, he's next. Jul 24 18:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Are they serious about bringing back the Concorde? That might actually work right now.Jul 24 18:40
DaemonFC[m]"Get where you're going 5x faster. Less likely to get the virus."Jul 24 18:40
MinceReliminating the security theater would probably contribute far more to faster tripsJul 24 18:41
MinceRand a lower chance of infection while waiting in lineJul 24 18:41
DaemonFC[m]I remember when I was a kid and they were promising that people would be on Mars by now. The economy would just be fine, and we'd have passenger planes that went into orbit and you'd be in Japan in like an hours.Jul 24 18:41
DaemonFC[m]*hourJul 24 18:41
DaemonFC[m]Now look at this mess.Jul 24 18:41
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yeah, in the time it takes to get through TSA and Customers now you could be more than halfway to Japan on a regular plane. Jul 24 18:42
DaemonFC[m]*CustomsJul 24 18:42
DaemonFC[m]Autocorrect. "Customers" LOLJul 24 18:42
MinceR:>Jul 24 18:42
DaemonFC[m]"Hey, Frank the Tank, grope this Customer and make sure you go Roto Rooter. Try not to break any more chairs. There's an investigation into the chairs!".Jul 24 18:43
DaemonFC[m]*crack* "Ooops."Jul 24 18:43
DaemonFC[m]The TSA investigated why it was spending so much money on chair at Midway airport. Some guy named Frank that was big and fat would lean back and snap them. They called him Frank the Tank.Jul 24 18:44
MinceRironic, spending more on individual chairs could have saved them money on the long termJul 24 18:45
MinceRbut almost nobody thinks that wayJul 24 18:45
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: At one point, one of the managers got the idea that there would be "standing chairs" because they could save money on health insurance and "look more professional" because she read in one of those HR magazines that standing is better than sitting.Jul 24 18:45
DaemonFC[m]So people started sitting in the standing chairs and she would go by and yell at them for sitting in the chair.Jul 24 18:45
MinceRlolJul 24 18:46
MinceRmanagers are one of the cancers that are killing humanityJul 24 18:46
DaemonFC[m]Child molesters and 600 pound idiots with food stains on their shirt that's half tucked in do look more professional when they're standing according to Human Resources Monthly. Jul 24 18:46
MinceRProfessional Standing -- when you get paid just for standing!Jul 24 18:47
DaemonFC[m]When they weren't paying any of them and you had black ladies doing their nails and listening to uncensored rap about poppin' a cap in a n****s ass while at the podium, it was professional.Jul 24 18:47
DaemonFC[m]Standing chair and all that.Jul 24 18:47
MinceRthat rap sounds censored thoughJul 24 18:49
DaemonFC[m]John showed me a video. I said, "Jesus, the only way this could get more stereotypical would be with a bucket of fried chicken.". He goes, "Look again." and the video pans out and they're eating from one.Jul 24 18:49
MinceRllJul 24 18:49
MinceRlolJul 24 18:49
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrsWp07BwVkJul 24 18:50
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The news said that they had millions of chickens that they didn't know what to do with. I said, "Well, you could let them loose in Chicago, only they wouldn't know what to do with it unless it had already been breaded and fried.".Jul 24 18:50
DaemonFC[m]My post got deleted and that was the end of that subreddit too.Jul 24 18:51
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Some people want to send our black friends "back to Africa" but I think it would backfire.Jul 24 18:52
DaemonFC[m]Just like getting rid of the cats in the middle ages in Europe.Jul 24 18:52
DaemonFC[m]We'll come to find out that they were keeping the chickens under control and without them there's going to be more chickens to breed a superflu. Jul 24 18:52
MinceRlolJul 24 18:53
DaemonFC[m]John was incredibly racist.Jul 24 18:54
DaemonFC[m]He was complaining about the slow elevator at the apartment building in Fort Wayne.Jul 24 18:54
DaemonFC[m]He said he got stuck on it with some fat Indian lady who let a "curry fart" rip.Jul 24 18:55
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Cosmic punishment. Curry is awesome, btw.".Jul 24 18:55
MinceRlolJul 24 18:57
DaemonFC[m]We'll find out some day that the government let COVID-19 loose because they knew it would keep the ideal number of black people left to control the chickens. Jul 24 18:59
DaemonFC[m]Like that time they let kudzu vine loose on the south to "control soil erosion" and then it spread like a cancer and started eating trees and barns and climbing up telephone poles. Jul 24 18:59
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: It was basically the early 20th century version of that "It's a plant....." episode of SG-1.Jul 24 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Something like that actually did happen here, only not as bad as the alien plant. I'm sure someone based that episode from this.Jul 24 19:01
DaemonFC[m]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu_in_the_United_StatesJul 24 19:02
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DaemonFC[m]"Currently, grazing by goats and pigs is the best method for control of the vine. [21] Another way to control kudzu is goats and sheep. A small herd can reduce an acre (0.4 ha) of kudzu every day."Jul 24 19:02
DaemonFC[m]Maybe they should just pay to relocate Cliven Bundy to Georgia.Jul 24 19:03
DaemonFC[m]He'll fit in down there. Maybe COVID-19 will get him. In any event, if cows eat corn and halloween candy, perhaps they can graze on kudzu as well.Jul 24 19:03
DaemonFC[m]They might even find a way to market "kudzu-fed beef" to hipsters and charge more for it.Jul 24 19:03
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: A problem the government introduced on purpose still costs the US economy billions every year to try to suppress somewhat 90 years later.Jul 24 19:04
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DaemonFC[m]Eh, what else is new. This is one of their smaller fuck ups.Jul 24 19:05
DaemonFC[m]People are still like, "Nah, give 'em a chance. Trump will figure out COVID-19 with Operation Warp Speed!".Jul 24 19:05
DaemonFC[m]The problem with the analogy is that while these idiots are trying to figure out how to get to a vaccine at Warp factor 1, the goddamned virus is spreading at Warp 5.Jul 24 19:07
DaemonFC[m]But, election.Jul 24 19:07
DaemonFC[m]It's actually a really good analogy by mistake when you think about it. The Warp factors increase exponentially. Warp 1 is essentially around light speed, but in the cosmic scale, light speed is like cruising down a freeway going cross country at 5 miles per hour.Jul 24 19:14
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure this fact escapes Trump, his voters, and the media.Jul 24 19:14
MinceR“Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”Jul 24 19:15
DaemonFC[m]You really do need a Warp 5 engine to start exploring the galaxy, and even at "Warp 9.95", you're just exploring the galaxy much faster than at Warp 5. You're still going to take more than 75 years to reach into another quadrant of the Milky Way galaxy. To reach the Andromeda Galaxy in the spa of a human lifetime, you'd need something faster than the "Warp Limit" from Star Trek, even though it's heading straight forJul 24 19:19
DaemonFC[m]us. (In 4.5 billion years, it will begin to merge with our own.)Jul 24 19:19
MinceRbetter upgrade to Stargate, thenJul 24 19:20
DaemonFC[m]So people were commenting "Well, what about collisions?". I say, "Well, that's when the two galaxies stop, call the police, don't admit fault, and then tell the insurance company."Jul 24 19:20
MinceRlolJul 24 19:20
DaemonFC[m]Actually, most of the space in....space....is empty, so it shouldn't be terribly violent as far as mergers go.Jul 24 19:21
DaemonFC[m]I'd hate to see their insurance for the next half the age of the universe though.Jul 24 19:22
DaemonFC[m]It would be kind of cool to see a pulsar get swallowed by a black hole though. From very, very far away.Jul 24 19:24
DaemonFC[m]There's always a bigger fish.Jul 24 19:24
MinceRit would be cool to see Earth get swallowed by a black holeJul 24 19:25
MinceRfinally all that stupidity and malevolence would be nicely containedJul 24 19:25
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DaemonFC[m]Oh whatever ultimately becomes of Earth won't be important. Either the numbskulls who outbreed everyone else will have managed to destroy its ability to support life long before we have anything to worry about from the Sun, or "some" people will leave. Probably what happens is some version of Snowpiercer in space. Jul 24 19:26
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DaemonFC[m]Elon Musk is proving that it doesn't really matter what happens to Tesla. He's getting rich off Venture Capital and then he'll leave the Ponzi scheme to fall over while the government won't do anything about him because Trump made sure that NASA can't do anything without SpaceX. It's like the Pentagon trying to give Microsoft the JEDI contract.Jul 24 19:28
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DaemonFC[m]Should be called the SITH contract if it's there as another illegal spying program for the Evil Empire that Trump is presiding over.Jul 24 19:30
DaemonFC[m]Techrights should be calling it the SITH contract somehow. It's just four letters. Should be easy to make an acronym.Jul 24 19:30
MinceRjedi are pretty horrible tooJul 24 19:31
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MinceRthey refuse to understand and use the gift they have and they attack those who doJul 24 19:31
DaemonFC[m]They did just kind of sit there and keep insulting Anakin with their elitism. The whole "It would be beneath us to explain anything to you." thing they had going on.....until he was open to Palpatine's manipulations. Despite their connections to The Force, they totally failed to notice the worst Sith Lord ever coming to power right in front of them.Jul 24 19:33
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Yes, it was ultimately arrogance and corruption of the Jedi that led to their downfall. Palpatine merely exploited this. Jul 24 19:34
DaemonFC[m]It didn't take much either. He "invented" an external enemy for them all to hate. Like the US giving rise to so many, or Trump blaming mexicans and getting mom riled up.Jul 24 19:35
DaemonFC[m]When the enemy is really sitting right in front of her. It's called Trump.Jul 24 19:36
DaemonFC[m]There's no such thing as "masked federal goons in unmarked vans giving you law and order". They won't cite any particular laws, and when you ask to see a lawyer, they let you go. He's just doing this as a campaign prop, and to see what he can get away with and how people react. Jul 24 19:38
DaemonFC[m]It should be incredibly offensive to anyone who claims to care about the constitutional process.Jul 24 19:39
DaemonFC[m]You ask Trump which law he's using to do this and he just goes "Oh, you know....'laws'.".Jul 24 19:40
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The Outback Steakhouse is open. They have indoor or outdoor dining.Jul 24 19:57
DaemonFC[m]Guessing outdoor is probably safer. Jul 24 19:57
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/13/e26ce869bba58ce9.jpgJul 24 21:06
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2018/12/07/juice-the-youthJul 24 21:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - Juice The YouthJul 24 21:22
DaemonFC[m]Decided to eat inside. Feels weird. The social distancing law and everything.Jul 24 21:36
MinceRlolJul 24 21:36
psydreadthey are locking things down again all over Europe tooJul 24 21:41
MinceR(cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/684819.jpgJul 24 21:48
psydreadI've just been thinking with all of the friendly behaviour between IBM and MS lately, are they thinking of a merger sometime in the future?Jul 24 21:53
DaemonFC[m]Oh, what Illinois is doing is mostly keeping a lid on it. Mostly.Jul 24 21:54
DaemonFC[m]Florida is idiots everywhere. No restaurant capacity limits, masks, or distancing.Jul 24 21:54
DaemonFC[m]Some of it is higher population but mostly it isn't. Mostly.Jul 24 21:55
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DaemonFC[m]> I've just been thinking with all of the friendly behaviour between IBM and MS lately, are they thinking of a merger sometime in the future?Jul 24 22:01
DaemonFC[m]Possible. They're both laying off many employees.Jul 24 22:01
DaemonFC[m]Seems like a merger could be the next step.Jul 24 22:02
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DaemonFC[m]https://thehill.com/policy/finance/508828-senate-passes-bill-to-prevent-debt-collectors-from-garnishing-stimulus-checksJul 24 22:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Senate passes bill to prevent debt collectors from garnishing stimulus checks | TheHillJul 24 22:18
DaemonFC[m]I did the opposite of letting bill collectors take it. I filed bankruptcy and got rid of the bill collectors themselves.Jul 24 22:18
MinceRhttps://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2019/03/13/the-deeper-southJul 24 22:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - The Deeper SouthJul 24 22:29
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MinceRhttps://i.redd.it/51qw6mw4hsc51.jpgJul 24 22:54
DaemonFC[m]MinceR "I'm tired of waiting around to get our asses kicked. We need to take tge fight to them. Show them that we're not the Ancients. If they don't back off, we have the means and the will to kick their asses for a change.".Jul 24 23:13
DaemonFC[m]Hey, they did nuke like 5 hive ships before the Wraith figured out what was going on.Jul 24 23:14
DaemonFC[m]I kept wondering how th Ancients lost that was in Atlantis. Just sitting behind a shield waiting for the Wraith doesn't seem like a plan.Jul 24 23:15
DaemonFC[m]The Wraith never did adapt to those drobe weapons.Jul 24 23:15
scientesschestowitz, what was the report of regulatory capture of Debian by Google?Jul 24 23:15
kingoffrancewell trump was all for "state rights" re: not wearing masks, goading them on...but when they started protesting in a way he didnt like, now hes a federalistJul 24 23:15
kingoffrancethats why i think its just a stuntJul 24 23:15
kingoffrancethey protested in a manner he didnt like -> send in the fedsJul 24 23:16
DaemonFC[m]Instead of building the Asurans, why not just program nanobots to produce endless amounts of drone weapons and ships?Jul 24 23:17
kingoffrancenormally "state rights" ppl would be applauding "autonomy" and "our streets" or whatever, strange new worldJul 24 23:17
DaemonFC[m]Mostly automate the ships and send them out with as few people as possible.Jul 24 23:17
kingoffranceyoud think the "drain the swamp" ppl would be all over "our streets" ...Jul 24 23:18
kingoffrancemaybe if they start dancing again they can do: our house / in the middle of the streetJul 24 23:19
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: i'm sure that would have failed too, in some way :>Jul 24 23:19
scientes> I continue to be the Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project.Jul 24 23:22
scientesniceJul 24 23:22
scientesActually, now that I think of it his resignation is fineJul 24 23:23
scientesbut it does make the copyright assignment policy pretty draconian nowJul 24 23:23
scientesas there is no reason to trust this shady organizationJul 24 23:23
kingoffranceyeah, i am curious about that tooJul 24 23:24
scientesbut there is also no reason to reneg on a copyright assignment statement that I already madeJul 24 23:24
scientespeople who do that type of stuff are idiotsJul 24 23:24
scientes*imbicilsJul 24 23:24
MinceRi'm glad i never agreed to such thingsJul 24 23:26
scientesoh wow, debian mailing list is censored by an imbicilJul 24 23:29
scientesOK, no reason to contribute to Debian any moreJul 24 23:29
scienteswell, shouldn't be so dramaticJul 24 23:29
scientesDebian is mostly a "know people in real life" organizationJul 24 23:29
scienteswhich is actually kinda coolJul 24 23:30
scientes(when I lived in San Francisco)Jul 24 23:30
MinceRwhich imbecile, armstrong?Jul 24 23:30
scientesAlexander WirtJul 24 23:30
MinceRi guess they have plenty of cultists ready to do censorship nowJul 24 23:31
DaemonFC[m]I'm walking around the mall. This enhanced kn95 makes it more difficult to breathe.Jul 24 23:31
DaemonFC[m]The virus is worse.Jul 24 23:31
MinceRmaybe without even being paid by dehomagJul 24 23:31
scientesMinceR, Dehomag?Jul 24 23:32
scientesyou are being facicious, right?Jul 24 23:32
scientesactually, you are notJul 24 23:32
scientesgood pointJul 24 23:32
scienteshowever china works a bit different, as the do not contract out their mass murderJul 24 23:33
MinceRscientes: IBM.Jul 24 23:34
scientesMinceR, yeah, I know exactly what that isJul 24 23:34
scientesI read the bookJul 24 23:34
scientesThe problem with the establishment in the US (Google) is not that they are evil or any other thing that annoying liberals that like to complain about things they have absolutely no control of would want you to believe. The problem with Google is that they are composed of imbicils that are too chicken shit to jump off the USS ship of foolsJul 24 23:36
scientesand swim towards shoreJul 24 23:37
scientesI have met some of themJul 24 23:37
scientesall they do is push the USS ship further into the maelstormJul 24 23:38
scienteslike they gave up 20% timeJul 24 23:38
scientesI met a Googler at a Chabbat in Lima PeruJul 24 23:39
scientesand it was pretty much what I feltJul 24 23:39
kingoffrancei get that impression too; people who have been demoralized for lack of a better termJul 24 23:40
kingoffrancemany of them probably started out opposing such thingsJul 24 23:41
scientesThe US has turned inward with their Russia phobia, and is looking alot like a cult these daysJul 24 23:41
scientesthat will soon loose all their imports in a very import-dependent countryJul 24 23:41
MinceRmaybe they should get rid of the Moscovian Candidate, thenJul 24 23:41
kingoffranceeh, i read a thing re: old roman terms:  cult == cultivate;   nowadays i guess its all used bad;   not to pick hairs, but maybe that word can be reclaimedJul 24 23:42
MinceRwhy?Jul 24 23:42
kingoffrancecultivate is neutralJul 24 23:43
MinceRcults are one of the biggest threats to the survival of humanity and life on earthJul 24 23:43
kingoffranceeveryone is cultivating somethingJul 24 23:43
MinceRhumanity is cultivating its own downfallJul 24 23:43
kingoffrancei just think its misuse of languageJul 24 23:43
kingoffrancewell, its probably like cracker/hacker and lost causeJul 24 23:43
scientesMinceR, China is a cult and while it destroyed the environment (and they have no interest in even reversing the rate of destruction) they have done amazingly wellJul 24 23:43
scientesStalinism 2.0Jul 24 23:44
MinceRhave they?Jul 24 23:44
MinceRwhich of their products and services are best on the planet?Jul 24 23:44
MinceRhow happy are the people under their thumb? (actually, you can just look at the protests in hong kong before the plague to find that out...)Jul 24 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Gas is back to $1.98 a gallon.Jul 24 23:45
scientestheir people don't have hobbies, but they know how to manufacture stuff. Ahh humbug, they may eat dogs, but they manage to work as a cohesive unit to dominate manufacturing Jul 24 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Strange times.Jul 24 23:45
scientesMinceR, their power comes from central planningJul 24 23:45
MinceRyeah, they know how to manufacture stuff badly, that others have designed for themJul 24 23:45
scienteswhich is completely lacking elsewhereJul 24 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Most people not wearing their masks at the mall seem to be black.Jul 24 23:45
MinceRtheir only power is that they work cheaplyJul 24 23:45
MinceRand with the rise of robots, that's going to go awayJul 24 23:45
scientesthey can manufacture stuff well too, but they do struggle to provide motivation, as the culture sucksJul 24 23:46
MinceRthey had a chance to build something on that windfall, but they've done nothingJul 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]I've seen maybe 15 people with no mask out of a couple hundred.Jul 24 23:46
scientesbaby formula is poisonousJul 24 23:46
DaemonFC[m]10 black people. About 5 teenagers. 3 Hispanic and 2 white.Jul 24 23:46
scienteswater is poisonousJul 24 23:46
scienteset ceteraJul 24 23:46
MinceRbut is it made from real baby?Jul 24 23:46
scientesbut they are *capable* of manufacturing stuff better than anyone elseJul 24 23:47
MinceR[citation needed]Jul 24 23:47
DaemonFC[m]Baby powder made out of babies!?Jul 24 23:47
scientesyou can't make a computer elsewhereJul 24 23:47
DaemonFC[m]Google: You know it's not!Jul 24 23:47
scientesthat is just the truthJul 24 23:47
DaemonFC[m]If you were exposed to ice you may be entitled to condensation.Jul 24 23:47
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: lolJul 24 23:48
MinceRscientes: what are the koreans doing, then? what is happening in the Republic of China (not stalinist)?Jul 24 23:48
scienteskorean cell phones are manufactured in chinaJul 24 23:49
scientessome of the components are manufactured in koreaJul 24 23:49
scientesbut assembly always happens in chinaJul 24 23:49
MinceRnope, mine says "MADE IN KOREA"Jul 24 23:49
scientesMinceR, that generally just means they split it into 2 or three partsJul 24 23:50
scientesthat are made in chinaJul 24 23:50
MinceR[citation needed]Jul 24 23:50
MinceRalso, if "assembly always happens in china" and "they split it into 2 or three parts", what do you call the process that results in a product from those "2 or three parts"?Jul 24 23:51
DaemonFC[m]MinceR South Korea or True Korea?Jul 24 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Trump just isn't very photogenic. They have a tendency to catch pictures of him with his mouth puckered up like an anal sphincter.Jul 24 23:55
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: obviously South Korea. nothing of value ever comes from the other oneJul 24 23:56
DaemonFC[m]Leads the world in bullet filled humans running across the border with tapeworms for half their body weight.Jul 24 23:57
DaemonFC[m]That's Communism for you.Jul 24 23:57
MinceR:>Jul 24 23:58
DaemonFC[m]1 fat guy with a Steam account on his Mac.Jul 24 23:58
MinceRhasn't that blip on the map disappeared already?Jul 24 23:58
DaemonFC[m]No, just the people who noticed it.Jul 24 23:59
DaemonFC[m]Again, Communism.Jul 24 23:59

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