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| schestowitz | wow | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > FYI | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > -------- Forwarded Message -------- | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: [libreplanet-discuss] censorship or technical issues in FSF lists? | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 10:42:02 +0200 | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > From: Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > Hi all, | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > I received the reply below personally | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > It includes CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org but the message | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > didn't appear through the list | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > Is this because of list settings (requires the list address in the To | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > header) or because of some moderation policies or because some people | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > are censored? Can FSF tell us if any people are currently censored on | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > this list and if so, how many? | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > Some people contacted me given the way I have raised concerns about | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > censorship in other communities recently. A rushed change of the | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > president appears to be a vulnerable time for any organization. | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > After FSFE started censoring communications from elected community | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > representatives (myself), the discussion was migrated to a parallel | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > list. If anybody wants to know they are receiving every message at this | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > crucial time, please come and join us there, it can be your canary in | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > the coal mine. | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/mailman/listinfo/discussion | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fsfellowship.eu | Discussion Info Page | Sep 24 05:26 | |
| schestowitz | > Personal invitations to subscribe have already been sent to many people | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > I correspond with. It is hosted in Switzerland so any censors promise | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > to be neutral. Nonetheless, I would draw your attention to the bigger | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > question: Any list admin eventually becomes tempted to censor things, | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > which free software technology provides the best way to eliminate the | Sep 24 05:26 |
| schestowitz | > risk of censorship? | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > https://lists.fsfellowship.eu/pipermail/discussion/2019-May/000000.html | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.fsfellowship.eu | [Discussion] censorship in FSFE, Debian,Mozilla and other communities | Sep 24 05:27 | |
| schestowitz | > Regards, | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > Daniel | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > -------- Forwarded Message -------- | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] membership confusion, FSF way forward | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2019 11:19:50 +0530 | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > From: Nishant Sharma <nishant@unmukti.in> | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > To: Leah Rowe <info@minifree.org>, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>, Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.pro> | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > On 23 September 2019 8:48:42 AM IST, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org> wrote: | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | >> I take issue with this: there is the issue of vetting regular members. | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | >> What if a bunch of members are present who do not share the FSF's | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | >> hardline stance on free software? | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | >> | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > I agree. The governance and other decisions should remain with the core | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > members who believe and support the hardline stance. | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > In comparison to democratic governance of a nation, a government doesn't | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > ask for views / vote from every citizen on every matter. We trust our | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > representatives to speak for us and take decisions in the best interest | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > of the nation. | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > Let's have faith in the board members of the FSF and at the same time | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > keep a check on them. It is our responsibility to keep writing/talking | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > to them to not let them deviate from the principles and ethics it was | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > founded on and for. | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > Regards, | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > Nishant | Sep 24 05:27 |
| schestowitz | > One more for today. Not necessarily a good one. It looks like SN is | Sep 24 05:28 |
| schestowitz | > getting trolled by the SJWs. | Sep 24 05:28 |
| schestowitz | > x https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=19/09/23/0145238 | Sep 24 05:28 |
| schestowitz | The link itself is not malicious, but the tone of the SN submission is worrying. If they're not careful,, SN will be like old Slashdot (the current one is just a zombie run by Logan). | Sep 24 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Richard Stallman Deserved to be Fired, Says Fired GNU Hurd Maintainer - SoylentNews | Sep 24 05:28 | |
| schestowitz | > Ok. Here is the full list. | Sep 24 06:25 |
| schestowitz | Thank you, excellent. | Sep 24 06:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/09/24/my-talk-at-microsoft-by-richard-stallman/ | Sep 24 06:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman Explains His Microsoft Talk | Techrights | Sep 24 06:26 | |
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| schestowitz | Reader: "Good. I wonder if Sam over at IT Wire would be able to pick that up? Is he around and do you have contact with him? If he does pick it up, he should keep in mind that the attacks against RMS are mostly a smoke screen to hide his Billness" | Sep 24 08:15 |
| schestowitz | http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/mit-jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates-money.html | Sep 24 08:16 |
| schestowitz | https://observer.com/2019/09/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-mit-media-lab-problem/ | Sep 24 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nymag.com | Why Would MIT Need Epstein to Get Money From Bill Gates? | Sep 24 08:16 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-an-elite-university-research-center-concealed-its-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein | Sep 24 08:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.businessinsider.de/bill-gates-connections-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations-ronan-farrow-2019-9 | Sep 24 08:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.axios.com/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-mit-donations-17ba5222-6625-4a57-9d1f-551b74d1107d.html | Sep 24 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bill Gates Now Has His Own Jeffrey Epstein Problem | Observer | Sep 24 08:16 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newyorker.com | How an Élite University Research Center Concealed Its Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein | The New Yorker | Sep 24 08:16 | |
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| XRevan86 | > Tux Machines: Hippocratic License: Open Source License Against the Likes of ICE | Sep 24 11:08 |
| XRevan86 | Let me guess, another licence that makes software unusable for the international audience? | Sep 24 11:09 |
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| r_schestowitz | XRevan86: another way to troll FOSS without having written any | Sep 24 11:10 |
| r_schestowitz | it's a famous troll | Sep 24 11:11 |
| r_schestowitz | https://theothermccain.com/2018/05/30/coraline-ada-ehmke-transgender-feminist-satanic-sjw/ | Sep 24 11:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theothermccain.com | Satanic Transgender SJW Wants to Control ‘Open Source’ Code Community : The Other McCain | Sep 24 11:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | (caution: unsavoury site) | Sep 24 11:11 |
| XRevan86 | "may not be open source at all" – obviously, that depends on whether the OSI definition is taken or a more literal one. | Sep 24 11:11 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: This idea has been floating around for at least a year. | Sep 24 11:12 |
| XRevan86 | > The software may not be used by individuals, corporations, governments, or other groups for systems or activities that actively and knowingly endanger, harm, or otherwise threaten the physical, mental, economic, or general well-being of underprivileged individuals or groups. | Sep 24 11:15 |
| XRevan86 | Here's the actual clause. | Sep 24 11:15 |
| XRevan86 | You know who's underprivileged? The police. | Sep 24 11:15 |
| XRevan86 | Low ranking | Sep 24 11:16 |
| XRevan86 | Everyone who works to undermine the common police officer is hereby forbidden to use software under this licence. | Sep 24 11:16 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I don't really think the persona matters that much, as a lot of people expressed a desire in having a licence that forbids use by "bad guys". | Sep 24 11:18 |
| XRevan86 | And, as usual, it's not hard at all to twist the wording in a way that helps the powers that be discriminate against whomever they want. | Sep 24 11:19 |
| XRevan86 | Even though this one has less implicit assumptions than previous examples that popped up, it's still full of it. | Sep 24 11:20 |
| XRevan86 | That "underprivileged individuals or groups" means what they want it to mean. | Sep 24 11:22 |
| XRevan86 | Besides, "underprivileged" is a relative term. Putin is an underprivileged individual when compared to Xi Jinping. | Sep 24 11:26 |
| XRevan86 | Whoever manages to paint themselves the victim is who will be "protected" by this licence. And the compelness of the argument is to be determined in court, as impartial and fair courts typically are. | Sep 24 11:31 |
| XRevan86 | The bottom line is that this is legal stuff, it cannot afford to be vague. | Sep 24 11:37 |
| r_schestowitz | yup | Sep 24 11:37 |
| r_schestowitz | troublemaking | Sep 24 11:37 |
| XRevan86 | More power to the court. | Sep 24 11:38 |
| XRevan86 | Here's another twist: if one works in a shelter for the homeless, one actively helps making new cheap workforce, which endangers the existing underprivileged individuals. | Sep 24 11:43 |
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| XRevan86 | Unfair? Yes. Won't be used in court? Somewhere in Russia it really could. | Sep 24 11:44 |
| XRevan86 | When a Russian court wants a conviction, it doesn't stop when it has no good justification. A bad one works too. | Sep 24 11:45 |
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| XRevan86 | "knowingly" – "Did you know that a lot of these homeless will enter the workforce and thusly make competition to underprivileged individuals already in the workforce?" | Sep 24 11:52 |
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| XRevan86 | It's a spectrum from people who believe that if they don't look at legal, it will go away, to people who believe legal to be almost magic. | Sep 24 12:00 |
| XRevan86 | s/legal/copyright/ | Sep 24 12:01 |
| XRevan86 | g | Sep 24 12:01 |
| XRevan86 | https://loadaverage.org/conversation/13201083 posted with better wording | Sep 24 12:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loadaverage.org | Conversation - LoadAverage | Sep 24 12:05 | |
| XRevan86 | http://semiletov.org/tea/ TEA 48.0.0, a new release of possibly the ugliest actively developed text editor :) | Sep 24 12:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-semiletov.org | TEA | Sep 24 12:11 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://0ver.org/ | Sep 24 16:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0ver.org | ZeroVer: 0-based Versioning — zer0ver | Sep 24 16:35 | |
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| XRevan86 | Suddenly CentOS 8.0 | Sep 24 17:05 |
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| cubexyz | schestowitz, slackware is pretty much my main linux these days | Sep 24 20:34 |
| cubexyz | community distro, no corporate influence as far as I can tell | Sep 24 20:35 |
| psydroid | that's interesting as I abandoned it about a decade ago | Sep 24 20:36 |
| cubexyz | psydroid, what are you using now? | Sep 24 20:40 |
| psydroid | cubeyz, various distributions, mostly debian and ubuntu and depending on the hardware other distributions and operating systems | Sep 24 20:42 |
| r_schestowitz | cubexyz: yeah, we've fallen a decade behind | Sep 24 20:43 |
| r_schestowitz | with stuff like systemd and other crap thrown in, even 'secure boot | Sep 24 20:43 |
| cubexyz | I haven't really butted heads with secure boot as yet | Sep 24 20:47 |
| psydroid | I have disabled it on both of my laptops, I didn't want to deal with it | Sep 24 20:48 |
| psydroid | and I think I had to, when I installed debian on it 2 years ago | Sep 24 20:49 |
| MinceR | my work laptop is a piece of shit hp so legacy boot doesn't work on it | Sep 24 20:49 |
| MinceR | it can be enabled, but no boot device using it will ever show up | Sep 24 20:49 |
| cubexyz | evidently anything windows 8 requires secure boot | Sep 24 20:54 |
| cubexyz | I can only assume that's true of win10 as well | Sep 24 20:54 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Sep 24 20:55 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call it "secure", as it isn't | Sep 24 20:55 |
| psydroid | secured against the product's supposed owner and other operating systems | Sep 24 20:56 |
| cubexyz | as long as one can disable it... with chromebooks there's "developer mode" | Sep 24 21:01 |
| cubexyz | then you can just put ubuntu or whatever on | Sep 24 21:01 |
| cubexyz | not to mention booting from USB devices | Sep 24 21:03 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://nim-lang.org/blog/2019/09/23/version-100-released.html | Sep 24 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nim-lang.org | Version 1.0 released - Nim Blog | Sep 24 21:21 | |
| XRevan86 | cubexyz: Anything Windows 8 also always has the option to disable Secure Boot | Sep 24 21:29 |
| XRevan86 | since then that requirement has been lifted | Sep 24 21:29 |
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| psydroid | can you still disable it on current systems? | Sep 24 21:34 |
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| XRevan86 | psydroid: It depends. You just have to know before buying whether you can. | Sep 24 21:36 |
| psydroid | XRevan86, my laptops are from 2016, but I don't know about current hardware | Sep 24 21:37 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: I had experience with a 2018 laptop and I follow the news. | Sep 24 21:38 |
| psydroid | and I'm moving away from x86 slowly but surely | Sep 24 21:38 |
| XRevan86 | My understanding is that laptops are worse than separate motherboards in this regard. | Sep 24 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | but I don't know, maybe motherboards do the same now | Sep 24 21:39 |
| XRevan86 | for PCs | Sep 24 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | stationary ones | Sep 24 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: To where though? | Sep 24 21:40 |
| XRevan86 | So many years have past and stuff around ARM is still chaos. | Sep 24 21:41 |
| XRevan86 | will get obsolete in no time | Sep 24 21:42 |
| psydroid | XRevan86, ARM, POWER, RISC-V and I will have to see what else | Sep 24 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Tell me if you manage to get something running decently without binary blobs | Sep 24 21:43 |
| XRevan86 | or something else that will quickly become unsupported by latest versions of Linux | Sep 24 21:44 |
| psydroid | XRevan86, only an Orange Pi for now, but that's not very powerful | Sep 24 21:44 |
| psydroid | I recently got a Jetson Nano for little, I am waiting for a power supply to see what that's like | Sep 24 21:45 |
| psydroid | I am running everything mainline on the Orange Pi | Sep 24 21:46 |
| psydroid | the only blobbish thing I am aware of is ARM Trusted Firmware | Sep 24 21:46 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: If it is sufficiently powerful, then why not %) | Sep 24 21:47 |
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| psydroid | XRevan86, it was just a proof of concept for me, of course I am not using it to do most of my life work :) | Sep 24 21:50 |
| psydroid | but it is stable and software support has improved a lot over the past 2 years | Sep 24 21:50 |
| psydroid | life work? | Sep 24 21:51 |
| psydroid | just work :) | Sep 24 21:51 |
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