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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Lenovo begins selling OEM Ubuntu PCs to the general public | Ars TechnicaSep 24 02:00
MinceRah, ubuntu is finally bad enough to be offered this waySep 24 02:01
MinceRgreat jobSep 24 02:01
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oiaohmMinceR: really this is now normal customers can buy them.  enterprise customers via custom bid << bit is order on demard process.    I wonder if lenovo is doing this because different enterprises put in orders and now have canceled out so leaving Lenovo with a stockpile from covid-19.Sep 24 02:40
MinceRyeah, but this didn't happen back when ubuntu wasn't total garbageSep 24 02:54
MinceRor even when it was total garbage, but at least still unix-likeSep 24 02:54
MinceRstill, i wonder if canonical gets paid for thoseSep 24 02:55
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MMAPUNCHhelloSep 24 02:58
kingoffrancehello punchSep 24 03:15
smnthermesHello MMASep 24 03:16
kingoffrancenicely done we each have our own copySep 24 03:21
schestowitzhelloSep 24 03:32
schestowitz[23:20] <DanielCantarin> Did styles from techrights changed? I see them different than I did about two hours ago.Sep 24 03:36
schestowitzno, how so?Sep 24 03:36
schestowitzI've just checked, wiki and wordpress look the sameSep 24 03:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Why Did Wells Fargo’s CEO Say That “There Is A Very Limited Pool Of Black Talent To Recruit From”?Sep 24 04:07
DaemonFC[m]The bank that steals from people openly so much that the Federal Reserve stepped in eventually and told them it was limiting their business until they took steps to change says there's limited black talent.Sep 24 04:08
DaemonFC[m]How smart do you have to be to sit there opening fake accounts and signing people up for Lifelock and billing it to their checking account until it runs out of money and then charging them overdraft fees for the Lifelock?Sep 24 04:09
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schestowitz[$] OpenPGP in ThunderbirdSep 24 04:41
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schestowitzold: 24 04:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Richard Stallman's GNU Manifesto is now 30 years oldSep 24 04:46
schestowitz 24 04:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Journal is Back | Linux JournalSep 24 04:47
schestowitzslashdotSep 24 04:47
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: re gig economy evictionsSep 24 04:56
schestowitzthat's what Stallone used to doSep 24 04:57
schestowitzhe was a thug before he was a starSep 24 04:57
schestowitziirc, beat people up over debtSep 24 04:57
schestowitzfor the clientsSep 24 04:57
schestowitzsomething to that effectSep 24 04:57
schestowitzhis mother died in her 90s the other daySep 24 04:57
schestowitzshe promoted ludicrous pseudoscienceSep 24 04:57
schestowitzlike the feet being a gateway to the whole body, letting people be cured through foot treatment iircSep 24 04:58
schestowitzDjalel posting spam in his 'linux' blog now?Sep 24 05:00
schestowitz 24 05:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Orange's marketing and business strategy - Linux-Tech & MoreSep 24 05:00
schestowitz" Visit GitHub to download the open source log agent. "Sep 24 05:01
schestowitzopenwashingSep 24 05:02
schestowitzproprietarySep 24 05:02
schestowitz 24 05:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | observIQ Launches Powerful New Full Stack Log Management Platform to BetaSep 24 05:02
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schestowitzwe might be taking a  bit of a 'break' from memesSep 24 06:36
schestowitzputting the brakes on themSep 24 06:36
schestowitzto make longer and more in-depth articlesSep 24 06:36
schestowitzseeing their have more positive impact in the long runSep 24 06:37
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schestowitzXRevan86: what does run?Sep 24 08:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Redirecting, please wait...Sep 24 08:10
schestowitzRed Hat started spamming usSep 24 08:10
schestowitzadded us to spam listSep 24 08:10
schestowitzwhich we never asked forSep 24 08:10
schestowitzpage also contains view-source: 24 08:10
schestowitzone pixel spywareSep 24 08:10
schestowitz" aspires to publish all content under a Creative Commons license but may not be able to do so in all cases. You are responsible for ensuring that you have the necessary permission to reuse any work on this site. Red Hat and the Red Hat logo are trademarks of Red Hat, Inc., registered in the United States and other countries. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds."Sep 24 08:11
schestowitz ping engage.redhat.comSep 24 08:12
schestowitzPING ( 56(84) bytes of data.Sep 24 08:12
schestowitzFrom ( icmp_seq=1 Destination Port UnreachableSep 24 08:12
schestowitzon http/s it redirects to redhat.comSep 24 08:12
schestowitz$ ssh engage.redhat.comSep 24 08:13
schestowitzssh: connect to host port 22: Connection refusedSep 24 08:13
schestowitz 24 08:15
schestowitz"Netblock OwnerOracle Corporation"Sep 24 08:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Site report for | NetcraftSep 24 08:15
schestowitzdoes red hat use oracle?!Sep 24 08:15
schestowitz"Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065142.0.173.134F5 BIG-IPunknown9-Sep-2019Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204F5 BIG-IPBigIP4-Jul-2016Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204Citrix Netscalerunknown10-Jul-2015Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204Linuxunknown13-Oct-2014Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204Windows Server 2003Microsoft-IIS/6.017-Jan-2014Sep 24 08:15
schestowitz"Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzWindos in the pastSep 24 08:15
schestowitzthen some extra layerSep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204Citrix NetscalerMicrosoft-IIS/6.022-Nov-2011Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204Citrix NetscalerMicrosoft-IIS/6.012-May-2011Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065204.92.19.204Citrix NetscalerMicrosoft-IIS/6.06-Jan-2011Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065209.167.231.15Windows Server 2003Microsoft-IIS/6.018-Aug-2010Sep 24 08:15
schestowitzOracle Corporation 500 Oracle Parkway Redwood Shores CA US 94065209.167.231.15unknownMicrosoft-IIS/7.517-Aug-2010Sep 24 08:15
schestowitz"Red Hat, Inc., Redacted For Privacy, Redacted For Privacy, REDACTED FOR PRIVACY, United States"Sep 24 08:16
schestowitz 24 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLESep 24 08:16
schestowitz"Loading Eloqua Components's LinkedIn Share content..."Sep 24 08:16
schestowitzLOLSep 24 08:16
schestowitz 24 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sep 24 08:18
schestowitzseems to be case insensitiveSep 24 08:19
schestowitzok noSep 24 08:19
schestowitzpartly soSep 24 08:19
schestowitzthe contents, not the directorySep 24 08:19
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zoobab 24 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Today is World Day Against Software Patents, software patents in Europe are coming with the Unitary Patent and its… 24 08:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Today is World Day Against Software Patents, software patents in Europe are coming with the Unitary Patent and its… 24 08:36
schestowitzddosSep 24 08:37
schestowitzsortedSep 24 08:37
schestowitzweird. new pattern of it Sep 24 08:37
schestowitz /page/*Sep 24 08:38
schestowitzzoobab: who came up with that date?Sep 24 08:38
schestowitzany significance to this date? Like a milestone in history?Sep 24 08:38
zoobabvote of the EP against swpats in 2003Sep 24 08:39
schestowitzXRevan86: when you're around, maybe before it's too late, share your findings? I don't want to install and run nmapSep 24 08:39
schestowitzzoobab: makes senseSep 24 08:40
schestowitzI will mention this tweet laterSep 24 08:40
zoobab 24 08:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | September 24 Is World Day Against Software Patents | FFIISep 24 08:40
schestowitzI don't do twitter anymore;Sep 24 08:40
zoobabFive years ago, on 24 September 2003, the European Parliament adopted amendments to limit the scope of patent law and thereby protect small software companies from the harmful effects of broad and trivial software patents. Sep 24 08:40
schestowitzthey still grant thoseSep 24 08:40
schestowitzbecause hey hiSep 24 08:40
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Firefox usage is down 85% despite Mozilla's top exec pay going up 400%Sep 24 10:51
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schestowitzXRevan86: never mind, I will go ahead with the postSep 24 11:40
schestowitzif it later turns out to indeed be Windows, maybe I will edit a bitSep 24 11:40
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scientesso alibaba has their own fork of nginx 24 12:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | FAQs - The Tengine Web ServerSep 24 12:24
schestowitzx 24 12:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-With a boost from Quicken, UM students build $1M branding venture in two years - mlive.comSep 24 12:52
schestowitz# proprietary; started wealthy;Sep 24 12:52
scientesschestowitz, that's what the word "entrepreneur" means in the westSep 24 12:52
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schestowitzx 24 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Erdogan in UNGA address calls Kashmir conflict 'a burning issue' - World - DAWN.COMSep 24 12:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Linux Journal is Back | Linux JournalSep 24 12:53
schestowitzscientes: seems soSep 24 12:53
scientesexcept it isn't really "wealthy", but "loyal" that mattersSep 24 12:53
scienteslike here in Sakartvelo, the people are quite wealthySep 24 12:53
schestowitzand when they get too rich it's "philanthropist"Sep 24 12:53
scientesif you could that the water is clean and the land fertileSep 24 12:53
scientes*countSep 24 12:53
MinceRpeople generally don'tSep 24 12:54
MinceRand indeed, you can't buy megacorporations or build armies with thatSep 24 12:54
scientesMinceR, Napolean was quite dependent on a fertile FranceSep 24 12:55
scientesand CÆSER EgyptSep 24 12:55
MinceRnapoleon's armies would be beaten by just about any army todaySep 24 12:55
MinceRso would caesar'sSep 24 12:55
scienteslolSep 24 12:55
schestowitz[12:55] <MinceR> napoleon's armies would be beaten by just about any army todaySep 24 12:56
schestowitzlolSep 24 12:56
schestowitzhold ma sword, mateySep 24 12:57
scientesindeedSep 24 12:57
schestowitzwhile I rearm my rifleSep 24 12:57
schestowitzbayonets and shitty gunpowderSep 24 12:57
schestowitzhow many bullets did they need to get in a torso for a kill from 100m+Sep 24 12:57
scientesschestowitz, that musketsSep 24 12:57
scientesNapolean had riflingSep 24 12:58
scientesoh no, 100m is riflingSep 24 12:58
scientesmuskets is more like 30mSep 24 12:58
schestowitzexactlySep 24 12:58
schestowitzso today's army can swat them down like flies from a safe distanceSep 24 12:58
schestowitzno need for tanks, airforce, artillerySep 24 12:58
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MinceR 24 13:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: New RobotSep 24 13:45
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Maybe Mozilla should stay out of politics.Sep 24 13:46
DaemonFC[m]With Florida looking to pass the Black Lives Splatter law (the one that lets you run over protesters), maybe Mozilla should just stop being deliberately divisive.Sep 24 13:47
DaemonFC[m]If anything, the issue is getting away from the far left in response to drivers being surrounded by "misguided youth" on divvy bikes and carjacked at gunpoint.Sep 24 13:47
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, insurance companies love the anti-theft features on these cars, but since the car thieves are too dumb to just get in and hotwire it now while nobody is in it, they just point a gun and threaten you while you're driving in Chicago.Sep 24 13:49
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DaemonFC[m]The most stolen cars are a Honda Civic.Sep 24 13:54
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DaemonFC[m]People just steal them and they disappear. Honda parts are really expensive, so dirty body shops buy the parts as used and use them to fix crash damaged cars at "reasonable prices" and nobody can ever figure out the source of the parts because there's no serial number on them.Sep 24 13:54
scienteswhy are people always making problems for themselvesSep 24 13:57
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scientesMinceR, true that 24 13:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Latest Flight Testing! - YouTubeSep 24 13:58
scienteslike actually building a human jet pack is an incredibly stupid idea, but you gotta admit it is pretty coolSep 24 13:59
DaemonFC[m]There's a lot of people you could test the Coronavirus vaccine on.Sep 24 14:03
DaemonFC[m]Haul out some prisoners who did some really bad shit.Sep 24 14:03
DaemonFC[m]Compensation for all of the money spent keeping them locked up.Sep 24 14:03
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MinceRscientes: looks like it will be used for recreation, not transportationSep 24 14:06
scientesMinceR, well they were also giving a "search and rescue" exampleSep 24 14:06
MinceRlolSep 24 14:06
scientesbasically because the whole thing is so fucking impracticalSep 24 14:07
MinceRwell, this could cover both purposes mentioned in the webcomicSep 24 14:07
MinceR(search and rescue; providing a need for search and rescue)Sep 24 14:07
scientesthis is also a pretty damn cool toy 24 14:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Living The ICON Life - YouTubeSep 24 14:07
MinceRniceSep 24 14:08
scientesnow i just need 1/3 million + training + maintinance to burnSep 24 14:10
MinceRand a big garage, and a lakeSep 24 14:10
scientesyou don't need a garageSep 24 14:10
scientescause its so smallSep 24 14:10
MinceRright, the lake is enoughSep 24 14:10
MinceRi don't have a lake either :(Sep 24 14:10
scientesMinceR, you can also fly that plane in flight simulatorSep 24 14:11
MinceRlolSep 24 14:11
MinceR(audio:important) 24 14:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pink Munky:" Wassa madda wit you, hat"? - YouTubeSep 24 14:12
scientesoh this is bad Sep 24 14:13
scientes<schestowitz> exactlySep 24 14:13
scientes<schestowitz> so today's army can swat them down like flies from a safe distanceSep 24 14:13
scientes<schestowitz> no need for tanks, airforce, artillerySep 24 14:13
scientes 24 14:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seaplane Crash Compilation | Plane crash into the water | Bad day at work compilation - YouTubeSep 24 14:13
scienteslike stall after take-offSep 24 14:13
MinceR>The safety lecture continues… “In the unlikely event of a water landing…” … … well what exactly is… a water landing? Am I mistaken or does this sound somewhat similar to CRASHING INTO THE OCEAN?!!!Sep 24 14:14
scienteshow did he know he would make it? 24 14:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-top 10 Emergency plane Landings - YouTubeSep 24 14:18
scientesthat was a big plane, but I am suprised he didn't just go down in the grassSep 24 14:19
scientes 24 14:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Almost Struck by Lightning Compilation - YouTubeSep 24 14:26
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4291076)Sep 24 15:10
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DaemonFC[m]I'm considering writing the Illinois Secretary of State.Sep 24 15:40
DaemonFC[m]Complaining of the waste to pay government workers at the DMV so licenses can expire every 4 years. In Arizona, licenses are valid from age 16-65 and then you need to renew and take an eye exam every several years, at a more frequent interval as you get older, just so they can make sure you're not losing your mind and blind. Sep 24 15:41
DaemonFC[m]That approach makes a lot more sense.Sep 24 15:42
DaemonFC[m]The government shouldn't be spending a ton of money on licenses. They should only be invalidated if you have an offense like a DUI or driving with no insurance. Sep 24 15:42
DaemonFC[m]Until you're so old that maybe it's time to check up on Grandpa now and then.Sep 24 15:43
MinceRbut if they don't do a ton of unnecessary makework and make you show up a lot more often than necessary, how are they going to employ a lot of useless people and demonstrate that they believe themselves to be your masters, not service providers?Sep 24 15:43
DaemonFC[m]No Illinois licenses are "expired" from March to at least next February and the fact that the state of Illinois can just do that shows you that they don't _need_ to expire that often.Sep 24 15:44
MinceRthis is the whole point of the state, after allSep 24 15:44
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DaemonFC[m]Hell, I've got a better idea for them. They want money. Fine. I will pay twice as much for a license if they will extend them from 4 to 8 years.Sep 24 15:44
DaemonFC[m]Then they can save money and charge us the same amount per year for a valid license.Sep 24 15:44
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "this is the whole point of the s"> Oh god, MinceR. Yeah. Indiana used to be this bad.Sep 24 15:45
MinceRi mean state in generalSep 24 15:45
DaemonFC[m]Part of the Republican budget cutting was taking a machete to the DMV.Sep 24 15:45
DaemonFC[m]They moved most renewals online and licenses are valid for 7 years.Sep 24 15:46
MinceRthey exist to control you, parasitize you, make you miserable and kill youSep 24 15:46
DaemonFC[m]You only have to come in one time to establish your "REAL ID" file, and then you can renew online as much as you want if nothing has changed, and you just get a new license.Sep 24 15:46
DaemonFC[m]If you move, you go in and pay $5 for a correction and you only need to bring residency documents.Sep 24 15:46
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: So, basically, once you have a REAL ID license, you can move to another state that uses REAL ID and they say your out of state license means you do not need to bring in your Social Security card or birth certificate.Sep 24 15:47
DaemonFC[m]Just address forms and the out of state ID.Sep 24 15:48
DaemonFC[m]This was a problem when I moved from Indiana because Illinois wasn't doing REAL ID yet. So I surrendered a REAL ID Indiana license and got one from Illinois that was non-compliant. Sep 24 15:48
DaemonFC[m]They were still handing them to you at the counter.Sep 24 15:48
DaemonFC[m]So when they started doing REAL ID 14 years after the federal law, my Illinois license didn't "identify" me to get an Illinois license.Sep 24 15:49
DaemonFC[m]The only thing the old license does do is proof of signature.Sep 24 15:50
DaemonFC[m]MinceR But take as much stuff frommeqch group as you can.Sep 24 15:50
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DaemonFC[m]If you only bring the minimum stuff they always find a way to deny something so you have to go get more stuff.Sep 24 15:51
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: My main fear of voting Yes on the constitutional amendment to allow a progressive tax is that the statute that kicks in sets rates at a certain level, but the Democrats have super majorities. Far be it from government to ever pull a bait and switch on us. :PSep 24 15:53
DaemonFC[m]So if that flat tax part of the constitution gets repealed, they could go into session the next day and change the tax law to say "Oh, surprise. Everyone's rates go up!".Sep 24 15:54
DaemonFC[m]I ran the numbers. Even if they keep their word on it, we'd only get about $1 a week in state income tax savings.Sep 24 15:54
DaemonFC[m]If we take the Democrats at their word, it would massively hike taxes on people making $260,000 and up.Sep 24 15:55
DaemonFC[m]Ken Griffen actually had a good point.Sep 24 15:55
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DaemonFC[m]He asked why the billionaire governor is promoting a billionaire wealth tax when he's currently under investigation for ripping the toilets out of his spare mansion to declare it unlivable in a potentially illegal property tax avoidance scheme in Cook County.Sep 24 15:56
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: And like most investigations into Illinois corruption go, this one is coming from the feds. Sep 24 15:57
DaemonFC[m]That's the only way anyone in this state government gets hauled out in handcuffs.Sep 24 15:57
DaemonFC[m]Mike Madigan has been House Speaker for 40 years and has almost certainly done far worse than the ComEd electricity company bribery scandal, which he still has not been indicted on.Sep 24 15:58
DaemonFC[m]Some of his fellow House Democrats have publicly turned on him, but not enough to prevent him from being elected Speaker again next year, potentially even under indictment.Sep 24 15:58
DaemonFC[m]That's how bad things are with the state. If they want it, I'm pretty sure it's a trojan horse. Sep 24 15:59
DaemonFC[m]Maybe it doesn't matter. People aren't that smart. It'll pass because they think they'll get more free shit and then when it doesn't work out that way it'll be way too late and the question will never be asked again.Sep 24 16:00
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XRevan86schestowitz: "No exact OS matches for host"Sep 24 16:11
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DaemonFC[m]The Heritage Foundation logs "voter fraud" prosecutions.Sep 24 16:32
DaemonFC[m]The interesting thing is that Indiana has more voter fraud convictions than Illinois does, despite having a voter ID law that supposedly makes it impossible to double vote or pretend you're someone else.Sep 24 16:33
DaemonFC[m]Mom was dating a guy who was committing felonies by requesting an absentee ballot for his mother who had dementia and was in her 90s and voting on it and mailing it back in.Sep 24 16:34
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schestowitz> "We must not direct the users towards proprietary software as if it wereSep 24 17:17
schestowitz> a solution, because proprietary software is the problem."Sep 24 17:17
schestowitz> Sep 24 17:17
schestowitz> We must not direct the users towards Github as if it were a solution,Sep 24 17:17
schestowitz> because proprietary software is the problem.Sep 24 17:17
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DaemonFC[m]Github was always something that made me uneasy before Microsoft bought them.Sep 24 17:21
DaemonFC[m]It was a centralization and takeover attempt of an open and distributed revision control system, and they managed to "market" it as having a "web-based interface". Woohoo.Sep 24 17:22
MinceRit was also always proprietarySep 24 17:22
DaemonFC[m]GitHub was really unnecessary, and there are ways to do social development in a way that's basically not a rehash of BitKeeper. Sep 24 17:23
DaemonFC[m]The idea that Linux will be using Github maybe tells me that fundamentally nothing was learned of the unpleasantness that ensued the last time Linux was in a proprietary source management system and how so much was almost lost for a solution that only worked for about 5 years.Sep 24 17:24
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DaemonFC[m]Linux development could conceivably go on for hundreds of years maybe, so the 5 year plans to shove it in BitKeeper or GitHub would be comical if they weren't always going to end disastrously. Sep 24 17:25
DaemonFC[m]We don't know that Linux will be irrelevant in 100 more years. It may be if the Linux Foundation keeps handing it off to be debauched and ensnared by Microsoft. Sep 24 17:26
schestowitz[17:26] <DaemonFC[m]> We don't know that Linux will be irrelevant in 100 more years. Sep 24 17:27
DaemonFC[m]But the fact that, fundamentally, the UNIX/POSIX model has been adapted since the 1960s to remain relevant to modern computing tells me that the OS conceptual model itself will probably turn 100 before anyone seriously questions whether it should go on.Sep 24 17:27
schestowitzin tech terms 100 years is a massive amount of timeSep 24 17:27
schestowitz100 years ago ibm did not even make computersSep 24 17:27
schestowitzthey made literal machinesSep 24 17:27
schestowitzlike tabulationSep 24 17:27
DaemonFC[m]Windows NT proved remarkably fragile in the longer term. It's not even 30 yet and look at it.Sep 24 17:28
schestowitzmechanical with cards and even not that in 1920Sep 24 17:28
schestowitzgoogle wants a linux replacementSep 24 17:28
schestowitzwhether their shit works out is another matterSep 24 17:28
schestowitzchina tries its own tooSep 24 17:28
schestowitzbut for now it's too expensive to work around linuxSep 24 17:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The election in Florida was another IBM catastrophe in 2000.Sep 24 17:28
schestowitzdevices drivers and allSep 24 17:28
DaemonFC[m]The state was using old IBM punch card tabulation for elections as recently as 20 years ago.Sep 24 17:29
schestowitzdevices drivers and all 24 17:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump Wants Another ‘Bush v. Gore’ | The NationSep 24 17:29
DaemonFC[m]But the equipment was so poorly maintained that a lot of votes were not punched correctly.Sep 24 17:29
DaemonFC[m]And the Supreme Court managed to shut down the recount before all of the ballots could be inspected for partial punches. Sep 24 17:29
DaemonFC[m]So IBM really gave Bush the time he needed to go to the Supreme Court and get them to declare the recount was taking too long for the results to be certified before the Electoral College had to meet.Sep 24 17:30
DaemonFC[m]Even with the mail in ballots this year, I don't believe we're in danger of a recount going into December and giving the Supreme Court a way to stop it before the count is certified.Sep 24 17:31
DaemonFC[m]The bigger danger is the Post Office moving too slowly and a bunch of votes that arrive past the deadline and aren't counted at all.Sep 24 17:31
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DaemonFC[m]It'll be votes that don't qualify to get counted if there's a problem, not a recount taking too long. Sep 24 17:32
DaemonFC[m]They're very hostile to immigrants down at the license branch.Sep 24 17:33
DaemonFC[m]Even in Illinois.Sep 24 17:33
DaemonFC[m]I had to spend half a day there just to get Mandy an ID that will be good for 11 months.Sep 24 17:33
DaemonFC[m]The state "workers" are too stupid to read a fucking letter from immigration that says "This letter extends your current EAD for 180 days past the date of expiration on your physical card.Sep 24 17:34
DaemonFC[m]So twice they put March 5th as the expiration and then on the third time the supervisor had to go in and cancel it and set it at September 1st, 2021.Sep 24 17:35
DaemonFC[m]She got pissed at me and said "You could always just come back in March!".Sep 24 17:35
DaemonFC[m]I was like, "Well, we shouldn't have to, and besides, nobody knows what the Coronavirus situation will be like in March, but if we have until September that's 6 more months where the virus can be running rampant and we don't have to come back here or worry about the state shutting down again and that's when we get called in for an interview with Immigration with an expired ID.".Sep 24 17:36
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's all about throwing as much of the mess into the future as possible really. Life.Sep 24 17:37
schestowitzhmm...Sep 24 17:37
DaemonFC[m]I really hate dealing with USCIS, to be honest. They're so disorganized and mean that you have no idea what they'll do, even if you do everything right.Sep 24 17:38
DaemonFC[m]They can and do often decide not to follow their own policies. Sep 24 17:38
DaemonFC[m]I put Mandy's EAD renewal in so that it would arrive at USCIS and go on file 180 days prior to expiration. They say you can do it at 120, but with what they've been up to lately.....Sep 24 17:39
DaemonFC[m]60 days more of a buffer against their monkey business.Sep 24 17:39
DaemonFC[m]Oh it's terrible. I'm hearing stories from attorneys who say "Well, USCIS should process these in 4 months, but it's actually taking 7, then it takes another 40 days to get your card. You know, that's 8 months. So I gave them 12 months to work on it. Hope it's enough.Sep 24 17:40
DaemonFC[m]Others say "I got mine in 4 months.". There's just no predicting them, so the safe action is to send in the renewal at the earliest they will file it.Sep 24 17:41
DaemonFC[m]Plan that it will take 8 months, or maybe 9. If it doesn't it doesn't, but I've heard people say they got fired because they sent it in 120 days before the expiration then USCIS took 130 days just to get them the letter saying it was extended 180 days while they work on the card.Sep 24 17:42
DaemonFC[m]Then the month after they get fired, here comes the card.Sep 24 17:42
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: You just have to figure you're dealing with a bag of assholes and account for it in your planning when it's the government.Sep 24 17:43
DaemonFC[m]I put in a CoA from Maricel's house to the PO Box for Mandy when it was obvious to me that there was a problem going on over there. Sep 24 17:44
DaemonFC[m]I've had several pieces of mail redirected since then and contacted all the senders to update his address. Updated USCIS too thank god.Sep 24 17:44
DaemonFC[m]Do we have to ask what would happen if she intercepted his EAD?Sep 24 17:44
DaemonFC[m]I know the USCIS CoA went through because the confirmation letter, his EAD, and several other things have come since then to the PO Box.Sep 24 17:45
DaemonFC[m]This has just been a series of near-misses, schestowitz and I'm trying to hold things together with duct tape and chewing gum sometimes, it feels like.Sep 24 17:46
DaemonFC[m]Half of it is that damned virus.Sep 24 17:46
schestowitzwhy are you sharing your personal life here?Sep 24 17:47
schestowitz#techrights isn't about Ryan & MandySep 24 17:47
DaemonFC[m]It was starting to dawn on me in December that if there was some weird virus killing people in China and nobody in our government was talking about it, and the planes were still flying, it was only a matter of when it would get here.Sep 24 17:47
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DaemonFC[m]I cannot believe that anyone would vote for 4 more years of this. Sep 24 17:48
schestowitzit could be staved off like ebola wasSep 24 17:48
schestowitzbut then china would be devastatedSep 24 17:48
schestowitzwith no whistleblower ophthalmologistsSep 24 17:48
schestowitzThe world would carry onSep 24 17:48
schestowitzflights, pubs, pollution Sep 24 17:48
schestowitzand china would be shut outSep 24 17:48
DaemonFC[m]When it was obvious that the thing would get here eventually, we wasted another month of January where Trump was trying to antagonize Iran over Twitter and got them to rain down missiles on a US base seriously injuring 100 US soldiers.Sep 24 17:48
schestowitzfor health reasonsSep 24 17:48
schestowitzand it would destroy their economy for goodSep 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]I think the reason we didn't end up at war was the virus, honestly.Sep 24 17:49
schestowitziran has a warSep 24 17:49
schestowitzfrom covidSep 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]Trump admitted he was briefed on it in February and told it was going to be very bad, but downplayed it on purpose.Sep 24 17:49
schestowitzthey're said to underestimate the deathsSep 24 17:49
schestowitzthey shut down Iranian publishers that talk about itSep 24 17:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: My mom was like "He did shut down the air travel from China."Sep 24 17:50
DaemonFC[m]I told her "Yeah, lot of good that does when hundreds of people are here with it already because he didn't do it two months sooner.".Sep 24 17:50
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: he also mocked people with masks onSep 24 17:50
DaemonFC[m]The hundreds of cases in March went to over 7 million as of this week.Sep 24 17:50
schestowitzanyway, your mom is deludedSep 24 17:50
schestowitzask her what she thinks of "QAnon"Sep 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]That's just people with positive test results.Sep 24 17:51
schestowitzsee how far the brain virus spreadSep 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]She is QAnon.Sep 24 17:51
schestowitzlolSep 24 17:51
schestowitzand "dad" is ScientologySep 24 17:51
schestowitzsend her photo ops of Trump, Melania and EpsteinSep 24 17:51
DaemonFC[m]I can't see how any other president would have survived the COVID-19 mess after ignoring the giant speaker in the streets in China telling people they couldn't come out of their homes.Sep 24 17:51
schestowitzsee what she thinksSep 24 17:51
schestowitz"no, it's only biden and clinton who do those things..."Sep 24 17:52
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Colleges Reopening Fueled 3,000 COVID Cases a Day, Researchers SaySep 24 17:52
schestowitzit's ok, trump doesn't need collegeSep 24 17:53
schestowitzhe pays some dude to sit his examsSep 24 17:53
schestowitzwhile setting up a sham "college"Sep 24 17:53
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DaemonFC[m]Trump University, where you get schooled in how Trump does business.Sep 24 18:13
DaemonFC[m]First you give him your money. Then he cheats you. Then you sue him. Then he either files bankruptcy or gives a small part of it back as a settlement because he can wait you out in court.Sep 24 18:14
DaemonFC[m]He defended walking away from all his bills. He said he "Didn't like the quality of the jobs.".Sep 24 18:14
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the legitimate contractors got stiffed and he had to find ones that would still do any work at all for him, and so he was probably actually telling a version of the truth here.Sep 24 18:15
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: That's what happens when you file bankruptcy.Sep 24 18:16
DaemonFC[m]I'm on the burn list for most of the big banks now because I included several of them in my bankruptcy.Sep 24 18:17
DaemonFC[m]I can't open a checking account or even a secured credit card with a few of them.Sep 24 18:17
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DaemonFC[m]The only ones that said okay was Discover, because I didn't file against them and I offered to put a security deposit on the card.Sep 24 18:18
DaemonFC[m]They hold onto it for a while. 8-12 months usually.Sep 24 18:18
DaemonFC[m]If you make your payments on time, they give it back.Sep 24 18:18
DaemonFC[m]If you don't, they take the deposit and close your card and your credit is even worse than if you hadn't done that because now you have another one with missed payments.Sep 24 18:19
DaemonFC[m]The deposit is basically easy money for them because the card is no risk and they get to charge retailers interchange, and while the deposits are on file with them, they buy bonds and make interest on the secured credit deposits. Sep 24 18:21
DaemonFC[m]As long as they have enough to pay back the deposits that need to go back out they can have as much of the rest tied up into bonds as they want.Sep 24 18:22
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DaemonFC[m]So they can go longer term for more interest because they constantly have some maturing and can pay back out of that, or their other profits.Sep 24 18:23
MinceR24 183709 < DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: It's all about throwing as much of the mess into the future as possible really. Life.Sep 24 18:29
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | UK Grocers Stave Off Panic Buying Amid 2nd Lockdown Fears; Daily COVID Case Record Smashed | Zero HedgeSep 24 19:03
DaemonFC[m]So much for "It's out of control in the US and the UK will be just fine.".Sep 24 19:03
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DaemonFC[m]Told you that restaurant scheme was just a waste of money that would spread the virus.Sep 24 19:03
schestowitz[19:03] <DaemonFC[m]> So much for "It's out of control in the US and the UK will be just fine.".Sep 24 19:04
schestowitz37 dead and 1100 dead per day is far apartSep 24 19:04
schestowitzand we don't have a national leader who denies it's a problemSep 24 19:04
schestowitzor that "virtually nobody is affected"Sep 24 19:04
schestowitzor whatever Trump said some days agoSep 24 19:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, no, you had one who denied it was serious until he was on a ventilator in the hospital and almost died.Sep 24 19:05
schestowitz[19:03] <DaemonFC[m]> Told you that restaurant scheme was just a waste of money that would spread the virus.Sep 24 19:05
schestowitzschools play a bigger role in this, I suspectSep 24 19:05
schestowitzit wasn't until well after the scheme that cases rose sharplySep 24 19:05
schestowitzMinceR: nice oneSep 24 19:07
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the post from zeroFudge is wrongSep 24 19:07
schestowitzit did not smash the recordSep 24 19:07
schestowitzApril 10th was like 8,000 new casesSep 24 19:08
schestowitzwe're not close to thatSep 24 19:08
DaemonFC[m]The UK only has as many people as about California+Illinois+Indiana.Sep 24 19:08
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PHE_uk: The COVID-19 dashboard is currently experiencing technical difficulties. We can confirm that: 6,634 new positive… 24 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@PHE_uk: The COVID-19 dashboard is currently experiencing technical difficulties. We can confirm that: 6,634 new positive… 24 19:09
DaemonFC[m]Plus, they're on the uptick in cases.Sep 24 19:09
DaemonFC[m]So we'll see how this goes.Sep 24 19:09
DaemonFC[m]Thee 7 day average in the UK is back to where it was in April.Sep 24 19:10
schestowitzmore testingSep 24 19:10
schestowitzcompare number of uk tests to those 3 statesSep 24 19:10
schestowitz13,879,423 tests in CASep 24 19:10
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schestowitz22,616,796 in UKSep 24 19:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Illinois Coronavirus Updates: Suburban 4th Grader Tests Positive, ‘Mask Optional’ Train Cars – NBC ChicagoSep 24 19:11
schestowitzand I never said we did well, eitherSep 24 19:11
schestowitzhowever, the US leadership is in denialSep 24 19:11
schestowitzand it's treated like election propSep 24 19:11
schestowitzas if the public doesn't matterSep 24 19:11
DaemonFC[m]California itself only has about 2/3rds the UK population.Sep 24 19:11
DaemonFC[m]So the testing rate isn't that far off.Sep 24 19:11
schestowitzonly which corporate party gets to call shots for the next 4-8 yearsSep 24 19:12
DaemonFC[m]Actually, they might be running more tests per capita in California lately.Sep 24 19:12
schestowitzCalifornia has twice as many cases than UKSep 24 19:12
schestowitzwith only 2/3 the populationSep 24 19:12
schestowitzso rate of about 1/3Sep 24 19:12
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "only which corporate party gets "> Many people do not expect Biden to be in for 8 years.Sep 24 19:13
schestowitzand CA isn't worst hit per capitaSep 24 19:13
DaemonFC[m]I think he's a reset candidate.Sep 24 19:13
schestowitzBiden is very uninspiringSep 24 19:13
schestowitzhe's lucky not to run against a 'sane' RepublicanSep 24 19:13
DaemonFC[m]He'll probably win 290-300-ish electoral votes, get in for about 4 years, and then either die, lose his own party nomination, or get replaced by a Republican that is less toxic than Trump.Sep 24 19:13
DaemonFC[m]Which most of them are.Sep 24 19:14
schestowitzlet's wait and see the October surprises of 2020Sep 24 19:14
DaemonFC[m]Like you just said, Biden is running against a very damaged president.Sep 24 19:14
schestowitzi'm sure both sides keep some skeletons in the closet, to take out in a few weeksSep 24 19:14
DaemonFC[m]If we had a more popular Democratic candidate, this would be a wipeout that may even take Indiana with it.Sep 24 19:14
schestowitznow they push the idea Biden is a pedophileSep 24 19:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Unlikely.Sep 24 19:14
DaemonFC[m]Notice how Trump didn't go there when that fat pig was accusing Biden of groping her even though nobody could find her complaint and her own lawyer bolted on her because she lied to him a bunch on some other stuff.Sep 24 19:15
DaemonFC[m]Lumpy Space Princess voice: "Sha! Whatever! Biden just wants me for my hot lumps!"Sep 24 19:16
DaemonFC[m]If we start talking about sex predators then Trump's in trouble.Sep 24 19:17
DaemonFC[m]He literally has dozens of friendly encounters with Jeff Epstein on tape and photos and stuff.Sep 24 19:17
DaemonFC[m]Biden could just as well hit back with "Trump was a good friend of Jeffrey Epstein." commercials.Sep 24 19:17
DaemonFC[m]Detailing Epstein's record of raping 12, 13, and 14 year olds and tossing a couple $100s at them when he was finished.Sep 24 19:18
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DaemonFC[m]Did it hurt Trump that he was an adulterer and a guy who "grabs women by the pussy" last time? Not really. But then again, nobody went with Epstein. Nobody went with "Trump was ogling 12 year olds himself at his pageants.Sep 24 19:19
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schestowitz[19:19] <DaemonFC[m]> Did it hurt Trump that he was an adulterer and a guy who "grabs women by the pussy" last time? Not really. But then again, nobody went with Epstein. Nobody went with "Trump was ogling 12 year olds himself at his pageants.Sep 24 19:37
schestowitzI wonder who your mom blames for itSep 24 19:37
schestowitz"butter emails"Sep 24 19:37
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