●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, December 24, 2020 ●● ● Dec 24 [00:00] schestowitz This is insane unless it's a fake account [00:00] schestowitz https://twitter.com/TrumpWonNoBS/status/1341406987586822148 [00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@TrumpWonNoBS: @schestowitz Two false statements in one headline. President Trump is not ruining the environment nor is he leaving https://t.co/IYtzVYbda9 [00:00] schestowitz I wouldn't put it past him [00:00] schestowitz to incite insurrection, sedition, domestic terrorism [00:00] schestowitz his bankster at DB has left [00:00] schestowitz so it might be "either this or I go to prison" [00:02] schestowitz Rackspace has just spammed me [00:02] schestowitz they used xmas as an excuse [00:02] schestowitz they apparently have my work email address because I responded to someone there [00:02] schestowitz "To resubscribe or view and edit your subscriptions to other publications from Martin Blackburn, visit the Subscription Center" [00:03] schestowitz They apparently pass in bulk people's emails to third parties now [00:03] schestowitz I might start to refuse to participate in those "clown" platforms altogether [00:03] schestowitz as they cannot commit to data protection [00:03] schestowitz like rackspace with their "clown" panels [00:03] schestowitz just use direct email instead [00:03] schestowitz with encryption [00:04] schestowitz " [00:04] schestowitz Martin Blackburn [00:04] schestowitz EMEA Managing Director, Rackspace Technology [00:04] schestowitz " [00:04] schestowitz maybe it's not a third party after all [00:05] psydroid Google Clown Sell-out Director [00:05] schestowitz but they still spam people who did not even access their systems for like half a decade [00:05] schestowitz psydroid: did they outsource to google clown? [00:05] schestowitz clown engine they call it, iirc [00:06] psydroid schestowitz: I went to this Google Cloud Summit thing in 2018 and talked to people from Rackspace, so I think they have some "partnership" (master/slave relationship most likely) [00:06] psydroid Clown* [00:07] schestowitz It would not surprise me if they just partition themselves parts of datacentres [00:07] schestowitz to get closer to people's local IPs [00:07] schestowitz it's hard to just compete with one or two DCs in Texas [00:07] schestowitz Amazon has a whole empire of DCs [00:07] schestowitz https://wikileaks.org//amazon-atlas/ [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | WikiLeaks - Amazon Atlas [00:08] psydroid Google has several DCs here, Microsoft too and Amazon is probably also working on some [00:10] psydroid there were problems with many flights being delayed at Schiphol airport due to the power grid not being able to deliver enough power for the airport to refuel planes [00:10] psydroid so these DCs are already having major negative impact on other industries by their mere existence [00:11] schestowitz a lot of them do crap [00:11] schestowitz like "data-mining" [00:11] schestowitz for imperialism and social control [00:12] schestowitz they reckon it's hard to control so many countries and billions of people [00:12] schestowitz so they copy China [00:12] schestowitz https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/imf-suggests-that-your-credit-score-could-be-based-on-your-internet-history/ [00:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | IMF suggests that your credit score could be based on your internet history [00:12] schestowitz (new) [00:13] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/AWeDZy1.jpeg [00:13] *MinceR suggests that the IMF's assets could be redistributed to the people [00:13] MinceR (and deutsche bank's as well, while we're at it) [00:18] schestowitz IMF isn't the capital holder [00:18] schestowitz the people who oversee the wealth are [00:19] schestowitz ECB is run by a criminal now [00:19] schestowitz Lagarde [00:19] schestowitz she was convicted [00:19] schestowitz but not arrested [00:19] schestowitz but the wealth (or "capital") continues to flow through shadow ("offshore") accounts [00:20] schestowitz so all the decision-making and powers are concentrated in very few hands [00:20] schestowitz so the system itself needs resetting [00:20] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: what's the plan if Mandy lost his job? [00:21] schestowitz I mean, even if small shops went belly-up, Walmart can't make much more money when people have less money left to spend on luxury "goods" [00:21] schestowitz they're just grifting off national debt for now (food stamps, stimulus..." [00:21] schestowitz UK branches of Walmart, like some Sainsburys shops, are shutting down [00:21] schestowitz boarded up, i.e. for good [00:22] schestowitz esp. around city center where office goers used to shop before/during/after work [00:23] schestowitz like buying a lousy two-piece 'sandwich" (processed, preservatives aplenty) and a "drink" (chemicals with water to dilute them) for like 5 times more than they're worth and cost to make [00:23] schestowitz people buying lots of bread loaves and butter isn't profitable [00:23] schestowitz the margins are too small [00:24] schestowitz they will automate shelf stocking, they already have robot prototype deployed [00:24] schestowitz and they make queues artificially longer to encourage people to become their own cashiers, at their own risk and at expense of their time [00:25] schestowitz I'm sure it's the same in the US as it is here [00:25] schestowitz and it's all "good" now... "coz corona" [00:25] schestowitz so human jobs at Walmart are a short-term plan basically [00:25] schestowitz and you need to already think past that "honeymoon" period" [00:33] MinceR (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/c22618757d96656a.mp4 [00:38] schestowitz cute [00:54] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Dec 24 [01:03] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [01:08] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:23] DaemonFC[m] I can't go into specifics because this room is being logged. [01:23] DaemonFC[m] But there's a contingency plan. [01:24] DaemonFC[m] They're not going to replace Mandy with a robot before we can get the immigration interview. [01:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [01:25] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [01:30] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [01:31] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:31] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [01:32] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [01:41] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [01:55] vZS1 Things can't get too bad. Governments will placate people to prevent anarchy from setting in. [01:56] MinceR people are too stupid to switch to anarchy [01:56] MinceR some crave being oppressed, others crave oppressing others, yet others crave both [01:57] MinceR OTOH eventually humanity will kill itself off and then this will indeed end [01:57] vZS1 People lived through other epidemics. It's not the end of the world [01:57] vZS1 Much as the "news" would like people to believe [01:58] vZS1 The second world war wasn't the end of the world either ● Dec 24 [02:00] MinceR probably not [02:00] MinceR but there are other means humanity is using to exterminate itself [02:00] vZS1 Climate change will probably be it [02:01] MinceR there's global warming, there's developing increasingly powerful weapons of mass destruction and putting them into the disposal of religious fundamentalists [02:01] MinceR there are various crises that overpopulation will eventually cause (along with global warming) [02:01] MinceR which will lead to wars using the aforementioned WMDs [02:02] MinceR there's the rise of religious zealotry which leads to a world where increasingly minute differences in religious beliefs will be seen as reason for extermination so that the conflict can go on [02:02] MinceR humans can probably also do this on the basis of race and maybe even gender [02:04] vZS1 People, in general, don't want to die. It's not likely to be war. It's probably going to be something like climate change. Something people casually ignore until it's too late. Then the planet turns into something like Tatooine [02:06] MinceR people are also, in general, incredibly stupid [02:06] MinceR while they don't want to die on the short term, they do a surprising amount of things that ensures their deaths on a longer term [02:07] MinceR they are also vulnerable to religion and ideology which are leveraged by psychopaths to get people to murder each other [02:07] MinceR sure, they're trying to kill the other guy, but they can't both succeed and not die [02:19] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [02:19] *birkoff (birkoff@unaffiliated/birkoff) has joined #techrights [02:19] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [02:19] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-ocjsvvxdmbdgzotf) has joined #techrights [02:20] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [02:35] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [02:51] DaemonFC[m] I don't buy bread. [02:51] DaemonFC[m] I buy 25 pound sacks of flour and make it myself. ● Dec 24 [03:12] MinceR https://i.imgur.com/KWji1zE.jpg [03:15] DaemonFC[m] He's done worse. [03:15] DaemonFC[m] If that doesn't bother them I don't know what would. [03:28] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [03:29] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [03:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:29] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Dec 24 [04:16] DaemonFC[m] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice#/media/File:Apache_OpenOffice_weekly_downloads.svg [04:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Apache OpenOffice - Wikipedia [04:17] DaemonFC[m] Number of downloads of Apache OpenOffice has collapse. [04:17] DaemonFC[m] *collapsed [04:18] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [04:35] *balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) [04:38] cybrNaut bit of dirt on Microsoft => https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54691572 [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook, Google and Microsoft 'avoiding $3bn in tax in poorer nations' - BBC News [04:39] cybrNaut cheating small/poor nations out of tax impacts the nations ability to tackle COVID19 [04:43] DaemonFC[m] Think of it as a consulting fee for all of the great advice from Bill Gates. [04:44] MinceR :> ● Dec 24 [05:05] cybrNaut who would have guessed that all the innovative brains behind Microsoft's operations are in an 85 person factory in Puerto Rico: https://web.archive.org/web/20201223100534/https://www.propublica.org/article/the-irs-decided-to-get-tough-against-microsoft-microsoft-got-tougher [05:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | The IRS Decided to Get Tough Against Microsoft. Microsoft Got Tougher. ProPublica [05:09] cybrNaut "Microsoft had told investors its revenues would grow 10% to 12% but told the IRS the figure was 4%." [05:31] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [05:31] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [05:49] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [05:50] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 24 [06:00] schestowitz morning,all [06:00] schestowitz merry holidays I guess is the P-C greeting [06:01] schestowitz cybrNaut: bill gates bribed propublica [06:01] schestowitz not sure how that impacts their focus in recent years [06:40] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, easier to lie to the investors than the IRS. [06:40] DaemonFC[m] What's funny is that the SEC should investigate them based upon the discrepancy. [06:56] DaemonFC[m] https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/illinois-coronavirus-updates-next-vaccinations-chicago-parties-shut-down-surgeon-general-visits/2401272/ [06:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcchicago.com | Illinois Coronavirus Updates: Next Vaccinations, Chicago Parties Shut Down, Surgeon General Visits NBC Chicago [06:56] DaemonFC[m] People throwing parties in their apartments. [06:57] DaemonFC[m] One of those buildings has one bedrooms for like $1,800 a month, which is $950 more than what we pay where we are. ● Dec 24 [07:01] schestowitz apparently my mom agreed to get the "vaccine" soon [07:02] schestowitz I told her, if any of those other things have taught a lesson, you ought to wait and study the potential side effects [07:02] schestowitz which she encountered before [07:02] schestowitz but the media hype it up [07:02] schestowitz and she swallows everything the state says [07:02] schestowitz (unlike my dad) [07:03] schestowitz re Chicago, see https://truthout.org/audio/chicago-teachers-pledge-collective-action-as-january-reopening-approaches/ [07:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Chicago Teachers Pledge Collective Action as January Reopening Approaches [07:03] schestowitz Reopening... [07:03] schestowitz yeah, greaaaat idea [07:04] schestowitz corona liiiikes +1 [07:09] *tdemin has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:11] DaemonFC[m] This is embarrassing. [07:15] schestowitz what is? [07:15] schestowitz the teachers? [07:15] schestowitz or getting back "on normal" [07:15] schestowitz The 'owners' of the economy don't want to admit it [07:15] schestowitz but they need a "big reset" [07:16] schestowitz even just to avoid pain, sorrow and unrest [07:16] schestowitz it is doable [07:16] schestowitz but they stand to lose too much by implementing it [07:16] schestowitz they invested in things like "office space" [07:16] schestowitz "patents" [07:16] schestowitz and focusing instead on agriculture and UBI would devastate their vast political clout [07:17] schestowitz until they feel threatened to the point of crowds amassing (apparently not legal anymore) and marching to their homes on a hill [07:24] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [07:24] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [07:28] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [07:29] DaemonFC[m] Embarrassing that they want to reopen the schools with what's going on right now. [07:30] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [07:33] schestowitz yeah, who stands to benefit? [07:34] schestowitz programming the young [07:34] schestowitz at risk to their parents and teachers, who are older [07:34] schestowitz BTW, [07:34] schestowitz the rich.. [07:34] schestowitz with their kis [07:34] schestowitz *kids [07:34] schestowitz they send them to private schools, have private tutors etc. [07:34] schestowitz so that barely puts them at risk, personally [07:35] schestowitz however, widespread virus can shut down businesses across town [07:37] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [07:45] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights ● Dec 24 [08:24] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [08:25] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [08:30] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:32] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Dec 24 [10:00] schestowitz https://twitter.com/cybersecmnl/status/1341875332333375489 [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cybersecmnl: Linux Foundation sells links to sponsors This is what happens when becomes a site not about Linux but a for-profit https://t.co/p0l9QidvZx [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@cybersecmnl: Linux Foundation sells links to sponsors This is what happens when becomes a site not about Linux but a for-profit https://t.co/p0l9QidvZx [10:00] schestowitz "Linux Foundation sells links to sponsors This is what happens when becomes a site not about Linux but a for-profit venture of the Linux Foundation https://cstu.io/80cefe #InformationTechnology" [10:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: What Has the Linux Foundation Done to Linux.com? | Techrights [10:21] vZS1 schestowitz: > and we will remain European Patent Attorneys able to represent clients at the EPO. [10:21] vZS1 Doesn't sound right [10:21] vZS1 From: http://techrights.org/2020/12/24/epo-customers-and-upc-lies/ [10:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Case of UPC Misinformation and Propaganda Campaigns: The Web (and Google News) as a Noise and Disinformation Machine of Lobbyists and Oligarchy | Techrights [10:24] schestowitz they can [10:24] schestowitz but [10:24] schestowitz during covid it may change [10:24] schestowitz also, the epo will loses its appeal here when we're not in the 'single market' [10:25] schestowitz this law firm is just trying to do what's called 'customer retention' [10:25] vZS1 I meant that I think there's a typo [10:25] schestowitz maybe theirs [10:27] vZS1 It sounds right if you get rid of "European Patent Attorneys" [10:28] vZS1 "and we will remain able to represent clients at the EPO." [10:28] schestowitz no [10:28] schestowitz they use the formal title [10:28] schestowitz as EQE exam passers [10:29] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/03/16/doyen-for-a-yen/ [10:29] vZS1 Put in parentheses then? [10:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Series Index: Doyen for a Yen | Techrights [10:31] vZS1 Also [10:31] vZS1 "customers" [10:31] vZS1 Lol [10:31] vZS1 Kind of giving the plot away with that slip [10:32] vZS1 Isn't a patent office supposed to be a branch of the civil service? [10:38] vZS1 Then again, we are talking about the EU here. Barely any accountability in upper echelons of bureaucracy [10:43] scientes how do you win at the sims? [10:59] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) ● Dec 24 [11:26] schestowitz sim city etc.? Never did 'the' SIMS [11:45] scientes it is kinda like the prelude to world of warcraft ● Dec 24 [12:03] *drdogcow_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:03] *drdogcow (~drunkendo@gateway/tor-sasl/drunkendogcowm/x-45413332) has joined #techrights [12:19] *drdogcow has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:19] *drdogcow_ (~drunkendo@gateway/tor-sasl/drunkendogcowm/x-45413332) has joined #techrights [12:28] schestowitz vZS1: I've just recorded something about git and github [12:31] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:31] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [12:39] schestowitz hmm.. encoding [12:39] schestowitz it seem to be getting too huge [12:39] schestowitz already 400mb [12:39] schestowitz surely it can be reencoded with some compression ● Dec 24 [13:16] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [13:20] vZS1_2 schestowitz: That reminds me, I was supposed to write something about this. [13:20] schestowitz yes, I did not cover that same point much [13:20] schestowitz I was talking in broader term [13:20] schestowitz it's half a gig video [13:21] schestowitz I don't have tools handy to compress it [13:21] schestowitz but I suppose the server can cope with such volumes regardless [13:21] vZS1_2 I'll get on it now. Will not be around for a while after this afternoon. [13:21] schestowitz whether people's metered connection can is another matter [13:21] schestowitz it will take more hours only to upload it. I think I'm throttled upstream due to the raspi with ipfs [13:21] vZS1_2 IPFS is much better for videos. I'd recommend using that instead. [13:22] schestowitz capped at no more than about 30kb/sec [13:22] vZS1_2 Check how much bandwidth you have to start out with. You've got to account for everything uploading. [13:23] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:23] vZS1_2 You won't see much bitrate on IPFS unless someone is actively fetching an object from you. The rest of the traffic is probably just DHT. [13:24] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:28] *rianne_ has quit (Read error: No route to host) [13:28] schestowitz /ipfs/bitswap/1.2.0 [13:28] schestowitz Bandwidth [13:28] schestowitz TotalIn: 1.8 GB [13:28] schestowitz TotalOut: 8.7 MB [13:29] schestowitz This is the biggest contributor [13:29] schestowitz ipfs stats bw [13:29] schestowitz Bandwidth [13:29] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:29] schestowitz TotalIn: 3.5 GB [13:29] schestowitz so about 50% is inbound [13:29] schestowitz since the reboot earlier this week [13:31] *rianne_ has quit (Client Quit) [13:31] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:31] *rianne_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:32] *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:36] *rianne_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [13:36] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [13:39] vZS1_2 Bitswap is responsible for the block discovery [13:39] vZS1_2 So there's a lot of people pinging a node with bitswap data [13:40] vZS1_2 That's why it's the biggest contributor to your traffic [13:40] vZS1_2 Because people are asking you for blocks you may not have [13:40] vZS1_2 CID queries, i.e./ ● Dec 24 [14:00] vZS1_2 schestowitz: I'm almost done with the write-up. I'll email it to you shortly. [14:02] schestowitz excellent, maybe I can publish the write-up along with my own video (need to see if/how they blend) [14:15] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [14:42] vZS1_2 Alright. I sent it through. [14:43] vZS1_2 The usual disclaimer about typos and such. [14:44] schestowitz THanks, will fetch now [14:44] schestowitz a long way to go for my video [14:44] schestowitz will do article separate from my take [14:44] schestowitz the order seems right anyway [14:46] vZS1_2 Whatever you think is best [14:47] vZS1_2 I linked back to TR at the end, so people can explore the relevant TR material on the issue [14:48] vZS1_2 I feel like the memes, in particular, are the best way to highlight the absurdity of what we're dealing with rn ● Dec 24 [15:05] MinceR scary solstice, mortals [15:12] vZS1_2 Scary Saturnalia [15:24] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/catechism [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Catechism [15:28] vZS1_2 I'm thinking about how to split up some stuff with KIRC [15:28] vZS1_2 Thinking of using named pipes to split things across ttys [15:37] vZS1_2 Haven't really messed with IRC much before [15:40] schestowitz It is published no, vZS1_2 [15:40] schestowitz it'll take another 2-3 hours for the video upload to finish, 8 times longer than taken to make it, but at least uploads are just a waiting thing [15:41] vZS1_2 Cool [15:41] vZS1_2 I'll take a look [15:45] vZS1_2 I like the reformatting you've done [15:45] vZS1_2 I was still roiling from being triggered by that tweet so form kind of wasn't on my mind ● Dec 24 [16:01] vZS1_2 I could have listed many more deficiencies of ShitHub [16:01] vZS1_2 For example: repo size limit [16:01] vZS1_2 But I didn't want to bog down readers with technicalities [16:02] vZS1_2 As I realise a lot of readers aren't necessarily programmers themselves [16:05] schestowitz many are [16:06] schestowitz but we don't spy and do demography BS etc. [16:06] schestowitz that's what malicious sites do... the sites you def. do NOT want to enter [16:06] schestowitz def. not with JS on... companies like Google use malware ("Analytics") to tell people all sorts of things about their visitors... Twitter does the same I should add [16:07] schestowitz they 'share' with you, a site complicit, what they 'stole' from your visitors [16:07] schestowitz things like income level [16:07] schestowitz even your diet [16:07] schestowitz they buy data from brokers (maybe like Nector) that spy on what foots you purchase [16:07] schestowitz *Nactar [16:07] schestowitz *Nectar [16:08] schestowitz Walmart UK charges you extra to buy food anonymously [16:08] vZS1_2 Where's the TR article on that? [16:08] vZS1_2 That'd be a good one to read [16:09] schestowitz Nectar? [16:09] schestowitz maybe my personal blog, if I mentioned it [16:09] vZS1_2 > Walmart UK charges you extra to buy food anonymously [16:09] schestowitz Walmart UK is better known here as "Sainsburys" and/or "ASDA" [16:09] schestowitz to make it sound like you "buy local" [16:09] schestowitz and "support British" [16:09] vZS1_2 Ohhhh [16:09] vZS1_2 I didn't know that [16:09] schestowitz what? [16:09] schestowitz you thought they were still british? [16:09] vZS1_2 No [16:10] vZS1_2 I just didn't know in general [16:10] vZS1_2 Didn't look it up [16:10] schestowitz we always call them walmart [16:10] schestowitz to simplify things [16:10] schestowitz grifters [16:10] schestowitz since Clinton era [16:10] schestowitz maybe why many voter Bush [16:10] vZS1_2 Isn't Wallmart one of the biggest entities in the world? [16:10] schestowitz who needs to be "successful" when you can buy a ticket to "the club" [16:11] schestowitz 30 trillion national debt... surely the money goes to... someone ;) [16:11] vZS1_2 Walmart* [16:11] schestowitz in terms of staff? [16:11] schestowitz I thinl China has the biggest of everything [16:11] schestowitz and s korea [16:11] schestowitz like over a million employees [16:11] schestowitz china has the biggest army by personnel [16:11] razielle_tzu i thought the merger of walmart uk/adsa and sainsburys got blocked [16:12] schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cn54ndxy92yt/sainsburys-asda-merger [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Sainsburys-Asda merger - BBC News [16:13] razielle_tzu oh [16:13] schestowitz "Hundreds of management jobs to go at Sainsbury's" [16:13] schestowitz razielle_tzu: question [16:13] schestowitz you're around york [16:13] schestowitz did you see boarded up sainsburys lately? [16:13] schestowitz we have loads here [16:13] schestowitz esp. the ones we used to see in centre of town near office spaces [16:14] razielle_tzu i've not left my little coastal town since last year [16:14] schestowitz mayeb they want to live people with no other choice, eventually, but buying food from warehouses [16:14] schestowitz razielle_tzu: soon "2 years ago" )) [16:14] razielle_tzu yeah' [16:14] schestowitz we last left Manc in January [16:15] razielle_tzu checking the ones that were left in hull after some of the little stores got sold to tesco (under the name one-stop) and others would be easier [16:15] schestowitz "Following the demise of its merger with Asda, Sainsbury's unveiled a reorganisation that includes closing a number Argos stores and opening branded shops within its supermarkets." [16:15] schestowitz Until months ago I did not know about the Argos connection [16:15] schestowitz Had I known, I'd have shopped elsewhere [16:15] razielle_tzu i didn't either until just now [16:16] schestowitz the us calls it "consolidation" [16:16] schestowitz a euphemism [16:16] razielle_tzu of course [16:16] schestowitz for "conglomeratisation" [16:16] schestowitz few people owning everything [16:17] schestowitz media, shops, food coming from massive industrial farming with GMO crap instead of crops [16:17] schestowitz but they put different labels on shops and products [16:17] schestowitz so you still get the sense you can "stick it to the man" [16:17] razielle_tzu badly done gmo is shit, but gmo as a whole isn't. i mean... corn, sheep, carrots and lots of other stuff are gmo [16:17] schestowitz like buying a "natural" drink... when if you look at the back turns out to have been silently acquired by Coke [16:18] schestowitz Most place now offer "many drinks" [16:18] schestowitz all from the same supplier [16:18] schestowitz often pepsico or coke [16:18] schestowitz even the water and orange juice [16:18] schestowitz they buy some brand, or some factory [16:18] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/conation [16:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Conation [16:18] schestowitz and then no matter what drink you choose, you pay the same oligarchs [16:19] schestowitz razielle_tzu: they get patents on the GMO [16:19] schestowitz and then they sue farmers [16:19] schestowitz more to it than just plain health [16:19] schestowitz and pesticides [16:19] razielle_tzu the patents need to die but i'm talking about the crops themselves rather than the practice behind them not being the problem [16:20] schestowitz many aspects to it [16:20] schestowitz a decade ago techrights wrote LOADS about it [16:20] schestowitz but there are like half a dozen separate issues [16:20] razielle_tzu yeah [16:20] schestowitz the main one, to me, if how GMO 'revolution' was leveraged for monopoly [16:20] schestowitz few people 'owning' the food supply [16:20] schestowitz bill gates is one of them [16:21] schestowitz became lots richer this past year [16:21] schestowitz and he's controlling many of the gmo shilling bodies [16:21] schestowitz the gmo lobby tries to make it opponents seem like antivaxxers [16:21] schestowitz people who want to kill and starve the world [16:22] schestowitz " [16:22] schestowitz Posted at 13:47 15 Aug 201913:47 15 Aug 2019 [16:22] schestowitz Asda cites 'Brexit uncertainty' as sales fall [16:22] schestowitz " [16:22] schestowitz no panic-buying then, eh, asda? [16:22] schestowitz "The ban also applies to US giant Walmart, which is not allowed to acquire any interest in Sainsbury's as long as it still owns part of Asda." [16:23] schestowitz So it looks like the waltons might sell asds to buy sainsburys [16:23] schestowitz if the brexit.brexshit didn't put them off [16:24] schestowitz btw, razielle_tzu http://techrights.org/2010/09/14/sainsburys-monsanto-and-gmo/ [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lord Sainsbury is Pushing Monsantos Agenda in Europe | Techrights [16:24] schestowitz one of many things we wrote about a decade ago [16:25] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/07/21/conflict-of-interests-jonathan-jones/ [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jonathan Jones Acknowledges He is in Monsantos Pocket (Updatedx2) | Techrights [16:25] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/07/07/gmo-and-msbbc/ [16:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jonathan D. G. Jones Promotes Monopoly on Food, BBC Gives Him a Platform | Techrights [16:25] schestowitz bill gates-funded also, of course... [16:25] razielle_tzu naturally, he's everywhere still [16:25] schestowitz no stone left unturned [16:26] schestowitz billions of billions for bill on the line.. [16:26] schestowitz now he's all over vaccines [16:26] schestowitz we covered this a decade back [16:26] schestowitz well before covid [16:26] razielle_tzu i'm kinda glad i mostly shop in tesco, aldi and local stores [16:28] schestowitz aldi is german, but nothing's perfect ;) [16:28] schestowitz lidl is also ok for price [16:28] MinceR i'd like to go to nothing then :> [16:28] razielle_tzu for big retailers of food those two are my only options [16:30] vZS1_2 Check out your local farmer's market. It's a big thing in the UK [16:30] vZS1_2 Good price, good produce. [16:30] vZS1_2 Supporting independent business [16:31] razielle_tzu there isn't really one i can get to where i am [16:31] razielle_tzu withernsea blows for that [16:31] vZS1_2 Sucks :/ [16:31] razielle_tzu i used to go to the big markets in hull when i lived there though [16:31] vZS1_2 The price and quality is usually great [16:31] razielle_tzu on a wednesday and sunday where the annual fair is held [16:32] vZS1_2 I always recommend it to everyone unfamiliar with the UK [16:32] vZS1_2 Most counties have a few in them [16:32] razielle_tzu i've lived in east yorkshire all my life :D [16:32] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:33] vZS1_2 Ah [16:33] vZS1_2 Either way. Is good stuff [16:33] razielle_tzu yeah [16:33] razielle_tzu i used to work the markets i referred to earlier with my grandfather before he retired from being a butcher [16:34] vZS1_2 Ah [16:34] vZS1_2 Yeah [16:34] vZS1_2 I was just about to mention meat and fish produce [16:34] vZS1_2 Because sometimes it's not just farmers [16:35] razielle_tzu it's a combination of car boot sale and local priducers market and i miss it [16:35] razielle_tzu s/priducers/producers [16:35] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [16:38] schestowitz now we have "alllllllexa!" [16:38] razielle_tzu others might but i don't [16:38] schestowitz most don't [16:38] schestowitz we need to keep it that way! [16:38] razielle_tzu the only voice assistant i have is on a vm for me to mess with and maybe write some modules for later [16:38] schestowitz we know who wants one in every house (not just bezos) [16:38] vZS1_2 Ah yes [16:39] vZS1_2 The spybox [16:39] vZS1_2 A lot of people still have the common sense to not have one [16:39] schestowitz get alexa echo today! it says you are "smart"!! your friends will envy you. yes, it records you having sex, but you can use that to order a new matchbox [16:39] schestowitz (even while having sex) [16:40] schestowitz people who don't like amazon think it's cool to get an android "app" instead [16:40] razielle_tzu i'd rather set up my own suite of things that can't interact with anything but each other and what they're connected to [16:40] schestowitz the "cute" google logo with rainbow colours and cure robot [16:41] razielle_tzu that said i've been having fun with mycroft [16:41] schestowitz or the apple cultists [16:41] vZS1_2 Tbf, Android isn't the problem. It's Google's app system that is. [16:41] schestowitz they looooove SIRI. YES, SIR, Tim Crook, I WILL buy one! [16:41] schestowitz Android is the carrier [16:41] vZS1_2 Fdroid gives you an alternative to Google Play store [16:41] schestowitz they didn't take long to make it [16:41] schestowitz linux+dalvik/java [16:42] schestowitz and then some "apps" (like GEEMAIL!) on top [16:42] schestowitz it was just meant as a starting point in Open Handset Appliance [16:42] vZS1_2 You can install Android with a different setup. Somethig like GrapheneOS [16:42] schestowitz it was called Open and Alliance [16:43] vZS1_2 Tbf, the best thing to do is to develop a packet filter [16:43] MinceR (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/16a7945b6a956896.jpg [16:43] schestowitz An appliance between your wallet and Google's bank account [16:43] razielle_tzu for me to install aosp or other android versions i need to repair one of two handsets and flash a custom rom on it. my nokia 2.2 can't have anything flashed to it because of the set up [16:43] vZS1_2 I feel like a packet filter sitting behind your router can cure a lot of this metric malady [16:44] razielle_tzu which i hate but i'll put up with for now as it's all i could really get at the time [16:44] vZS1_2 Because look at what's happening with web browsers [16:44] vZS1_2 People are forced into a few [16:44] vZS1_2 And they take whatever data they feel like [16:44] vZS1_2 If you block that in the hardware, they can suck their thumbs [16:44] schestowitz "you must activate javascript" [16:45] schestowitz here comes the CAPTCHA [16:45] schestowitz and then clownflare will check its naughty list [16:45] schestowitz and the browser [16:45] schestowitz and sniff your home activity history [16:45] schestowitz then you might be "not criminal" [16:45] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [16:46] schestowitz today's www is like coming to a hotel with $1000 in your swimming trunks [16:46] schestowitz you might be a perfectly legit customer [16:46] vZS1_2 Over the years I've done a lot of packet sniffing. Might sit down and see what some of these browsers are up to, as a hobby project. [16:46] schestowitz but the first appearance keeps you out the door [16:47] vZS1_2 That's not appropriate. /s [16:47] schestowitz they do CAPTCHA [16:47] schestowitz "can you tie a knot?" [16:47] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-sleeoryuxvnytcue) has joined #techrights [16:47] razielle_tzu "what type?" [16:48] schestowitz in night clubs they check if you can buy the "right" shoes [16:48] schestowitz $100 sneakers not good [16:48] schestowitz $10 pair of boots from primark? welcome! [16:48] vZS1_2 lmao [16:48] razielle_tzu accurate [16:49] schestowitz aprppos [16:49] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5qcRMLZPSQ [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Nike Spice Dystopia Range 2020 - YouTube [16:49] schestowitz apropos [16:49] schestowitz recent from Manchester [16:49] schestowitz I know the guy who made this, he's local now [16:55] vZS1_2 I might hop in and check this at some point: https://k1ss.org/ [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-k1ss.org | KISS - home [16:57] vZS1_2 Some people pointed it out as an alternative for people that don't mind hacking but don't want to go fully on their own ● Dec 24 [17:01] schestowitz we need to flush down the www [17:01] schestowitz it cannot be reformed [17:01] schestowitz I keep hearing it from people [17:01] schestowitz orgs and tech won't be reform [17:01] schestowitz you need to replace them [17:01] schestowitz then promote the substitute [17:01] schestowitz things don't repair from within [17:01] schestowitz w3c [17:01] schestowitz look at the people [17:02] schestowitz I did earlier this month ago [17:02] schestowitz same management [17:02] schestowitz jafee, apple, microsoft, google [17:02] vZS1_2 W3C is infiltrated [17:02] schestowitz swpats boosters and worse [17:02] schestowitz and if they "sponsor" (bribe) they get a sear [17:02] schestowitz *seat [17:02] vZS1_2 The thing is, they're stuffing idiots into steering roles. [17:02] schestowitz those are the rules now [17:02] schestowitz even tim b-l seems fed u [17:02] vZS1_2 This will bite them in the arse when they need competent people :) [17:02] schestowitz shame he made his replacemnt github-hostted [17:03] vZS1_2 Give it a few decades [17:03] schestowitz wow, video still uploading [17:03] schestowitz about github [17:03] schestowitz I recorded before breakfast [17:03] vZS1_2 These bodies will collapse under the weight of their incompetence [17:06] vZS1_2 I don't think you need to replace the www. TR's media coverage of the story is what's more important imo [17:06] vZS1_2 People will start complaining and rejecting things they see exposed on TR [17:06] vZS1_2 There's plenty of dead ecosystems out there. www will end up being one of them if they keep going the way they are [17:07] psydroid + [17:07] vZS1_2 Nobody had to pursue the end of those ecosystems. Happened on its own [17:07] psydroid oops [17:08] psydroid I don't think it's important to have as a goal to replace the www [17:08] psydroid it's enough to create and use alternatives and promote those [17:08] vZS1_2 Yeah [17:10] vZS1_2 schestowitz: try uploading the video to IPFS. Should play in the browser if it's an ogg file. [17:11] vZS1_2 I think you said you save as ogg, IIRC [17:12] vZS1_2 You can try with a small test video file [17:14] schestowitz usually the files are vastly smaller [17:14] schestowitz this one came out massive, almost half a gig [17:15] schestowitz I actually wonder how well it can stream in various countries, that's half an hour long, so about 150MB/10 minutes or 15MB/min [17:15] schestowitz moments ago I saw the site doing a gigabyte in 30 secs [17:15] schestowitz some people downloading bill gates deposition tapes [17:15] schestowitz groklaw used to host these [17:15] schestowitz we made a copy before that site went offline for good [17:15] vZS1_2 Why don't you put them up on IPFS [17:16] vZS1_2 It's way more logical [17:16] vZS1_2 Than HTTP [17:16] schestowitz I'd need to put large file on a raspi [17:16] schestowitz limited space on there [17:17] vZS1_2 You should have a USB3 port on the Pi4 [17:17] schestowitz I cleared up as much as I can, esp. for one year or two of bulletins and irc logs [17:17] vZS1_2 Worth getting an external HDD for it [17:17] vZS1_2 For big files [17:17] schestowitz I have that, but I don't want to mount drives non-step [17:17] schestowitz not good for he magnets [17:17] schestowitz also not safe, I have full backups on all my drives [17:17] schestowitz only my main laptop plugs into these, temporarily [17:18] schestowitz they're air-gapped [17:18] vZS1_2 Get a dedicated drive some time [17:18] schestowitz it would cost more than the pi [17:18] schestowitz and for media files? seems unreasonable? also more power usage [17:19] vZS1_2 Pretty negligible for this hardware [17:19] vZS1_2 It'll reduce your reliance on third-party hardware you don't control [17:19] vZS1_2 You won't notice the cost of a drive or two in a few years [17:20] schestowitz I can use one of the older and smaller drives [17:21] schestowitz but for now I don't want extra wiring and sockets [17:21] schestowitz it's on microsd [17:21] schestowitz now it is in good casing too [17:21] schestowitz with HATs on [17:22] vZS1_2 You can do compression pre-upload. That should save a lot of space in the long run [17:22] vZS1_2 I recommend xz [17:22] schestowitz I just need to solder in the buttons some time... can't get my hands on a soldering kit at the moment [17:22] vZS1_2 People using IPFS won't mind decompressing a video [17:23] schestowitz 20,500 video (ogv only) downloads since sunday [17:23] schestowitz just checked [17:23] vZS1_2 Might be less effort to just monitor your pi over SSH [17:23] schestowitz if my upload speeds are low [17:23] schestowitz how would a local pi serve fast enough? [17:24] schestowitz it needs to come through a datacentre [17:24] vZS1_2 People download the video and watch it [17:24] vZS1_2 Like a torrent [17:24] vZS1_2 pretty simple [17:24] schestowitz not EPO workers [17:24] schestowitz they're technical [17:24] schestowitz bit not in THAT area [17:24] schestowitz most probably use "Smart" things like 'phones' [17:25] schestowitz speaking of which, can you proofread this for me? [17:25] schestowitz publishing in 10 secs [17:25] vZS1_2 Pretty sure you can watch an IPFS file in the browser anyway [17:25] vZS1_2 As long as you have it in a watchable format [17:25] vZS1_2 so ogg [17:25] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/12/24/epo-scandals-and-upc-folly/ [17:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Scandals Are Closely Connected to the UPC Folly | Techrights [17:25] vZS1_2 I can look at it later. I'm heading out soon [17:26] vZS1_2 Try it out. Pin a video to IPFS and open it via the http gateway in the browser [17:26] vZS1_2 Just do a short one [17:26] *vZS1_2 has quit (Quit: vZS1_2) [17:27] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/fractions [17:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Fractions [17:28] vZS1 I'm pretty sure somebody already uploaded and shared a video of TR on IPFS [17:28] vZS1 I forgot who though [17:28] vZS1 It's in the logs [17:29] schestowitz very good, reduces the strain [17:29] vZS1 I haven't really messed with video on IPFS through a browser, using a public http gateway [17:29] vZS1 I can look into it later [17:29] schestowitz cheers [17:29] schestowitz I will proofread on my own [17:30] schestowitz it's not long anyway [17:31] vZS1 I'll need to do a bit of tweaking to the IPFS bot btw [17:31] vZS1 Right now it uses pipes to handle the index [17:31] vZS1 Day will come when you won't have enough RAM for that [17:31] vZS1 So I'll modify the bot to use temp files instead [17:32] vZS1 Shouldn't take too long [17:33] vZS1 I'll look into it this weekend [17:47] *_inky has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [17:51] *_inky (~inky@141.136.78.223) has joined #techrights [17:52] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072637 [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4783427) [17:57] *balrog (~balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights ● Dec 24 [18:02] scientes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYlnEpFU5TI [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NYC's proposed flat $3 tax on delivered goods is &^*&^ DUMB - YouTube [18:02] scientes If Usonians only knew that public transportation IS PROFITABLE in south america [18:03] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:03] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.201.191.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [18:03] scientes the only purpose of the existing and totally broken system is to prevent the democracy that happens when such a system exists [18:04] scientes which is certainly what I saw in how Lima Peru was trying to push in a US-style system (Panama City too, but there the existing system was pretty bad because they had been using US schoolbuses, which just are not the right vehicles [18:05] scientes ...a politician lurks under every rock [18:15] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [18:15] *vZS1 (~vZS1@88-109-14-169.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) has joined #techrights [18:21] DaemonFC[m] Well, I got the letter from immigration. [18:21] DaemonFC[m] I don't think this is undoable, and the good news is that the appointment time is 11:45 AM this time so I don't have to wake up at a truly uncivilized hour of the morning to get into Chicago and into their office by 8:15 AM like our original appointment. [18:23] DaemonFC[m] Of course whatever time it is I would have better luck getting Mandy to get out of the house and stop preening himself if I had a cattle prod. j/k [18:25] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I think the Handmaid's Tale character I sympathize the most with is actually Commander Lawrence. [18:25] schestowitz I don't watch tv [18:25] DaemonFC[m] Trapped in a world of his own making and full of regrets he deliberately gets himself in "deep shit" to help the resistance and smuggle people out of Gilead. [18:26] schestowitz if you mean not a book [18:26] DaemonFC[m] Then he runs into June, who doesn't cooperate and just get to Canada quietly and starts demanding more and more from him. [18:27] DaemonFC[m] It is also a series of books. [18:27] *liberty_box_ (~liberty@host81-154-173-106.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:27] DaemonFC[m] I think two. The sequel came out in 2019, but I think the first one was published in 1989. [18:28] DaemonFC[m] So obviously they had to update it to make the TV series fit into a dystopian near-future that started out as Trumpism and the Proud Boys and ICE playing to these idiots that eventually launched a decapitation strike on the US government and set up a theocracy/dictatorship. [18:33] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Mom didn't get it when she asked what I thought I was doing last year marrying Mandy in the middle of all of that. [18:33] DaemonFC[m] And I said, "Getting myself into deep shit.". [18:34] DaemonFC[m] I've had to thread the needle a lot more than this in court and in the bankruptcy proceedings. [18:35] DaemonFC[m] I can handle a deposition without fucking up. I'm just hoping that Mandy can. [18:35] DaemonFC[m] I've been trying to explain it to him that this process is not going to be close to fair and that one wrong answer can be the end of it, but I don't think he gets it. [18:37] DaemonFC[m] To stop myself from panicking I just keep saying to myself, again and again, "Imagine what would have happened had you gone in there in April, and had to tell them that he was unemployed, you had a mountain of debt and were currently serving probation, and that you were living in a motel.". [18:37] DaemonFC[m] When you think about things from that angle, whatever happens in January will be better than THAT. [18:39] DaemonFC[m] That's what no lawyer wanted to touch. And Maricel was so stupid, so intent on getting immediate satisfaction so that she could laugh like a lunatic who ought to be tied up in an asylum somewhere, had to brag about her plan when she could have just shut up, sabotaged it, and I would have been "informed" after it was too late. [18:42] DaemonFC[m] I don't get why people have to gloat. If they think what they have is so good then why not just set up landmines and then shut up about it? [18:46] vZS1 > I don't get why people have to gloat. If they think what they have is so good then why not just set up landmines and then shut up about it? [18:47] vZS1 Lack of experience dealing with secrets (: [18:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072635 [18:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4783352) ● Dec 24 [19:00] schestowitz [18:46] > I don't get why people have to gloat. [19:00] schestowitz To compensate for something [19:00] schestowitz bad experience, trauma, insecurity [19:00] schestowitz otherwise they'd get more stuff done, not waste time gloating [19:00] schestowitz it's a form of "revenge" [19:10] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: trumpland racked another 3,401 bodies yesterday [19:10] schestowitz so Trump has "the tallest tower" (or not) [19:10] schestowitz it was a lie, he spoke in relative terms [19:11] schestowitz Trump: I have the BESTEST Murican Carnage [19:11] schestowitz BESTER than OBAMA'S [19:13] DaemonFC[m] Alfred Bester, even. [19:15] vZS1 I've seen a few people ruin their lives because they couldn't resist the temptation to gloat. Very messy consequences for a few of them [19:20] schestowitz that's partly why Facebook is toxic and self-harming [19:20] schestowitz case studies [19:20] schestowitz -"books" (photo albums) with an "ex" [19:21] schestowitz they never go away, people can reshare them [19:21] schestowitz the current partner can get jealous [19:21] *schestowitz heard stories like that, both online and offline (physical photo album with ex, former spouse etc.) [19:21] schestowitz -debt collectors assess what to steal next [19:22] schestowitz -holidays and days out with selfies get you fired for refuting "sick leave" narrative [19:22] schestowitz -thieves knowing when you are home, what the home looks like, where the "good stuff" (valuables) are [19:23] schestowitz -you cannot leave the site because you're attached to communications "on there" (already shared to FB partners, which include Microsoft... many people still don't know Microsoft gets all this data) [19:23] schestowitz that data never goes away, even if you delete it and delete the whole account [19:24] schestowitz there are many more, but the above just came to mind fast [19:26] DaemonFC[m] Now Social Security can go over your Facebook profile to gather evidence against a disability claim. [19:26] DaemonFC[m] Lawyers say make everything private, but that doesn't mean the governemnt won't just use their backdoors and read everything anyway. [19:27] DaemonFC[m] Nobody who is disabled is allowed to go clean their gutters out. Someone might snap a picture. They can't smile. It might be seen on Facebook. [19:28] DaemonFC[m] And of course this is all a ruse for the government to gather excuses to get its budget under control on the backs of people who are depressed but go to someone's birthday party and pretend they're happy for a few minutes. [19:28] DaemonFC[m] Or clearing out their gutter because $1,000 a month doesn't let them hire someone and they'll be in pain for the next week because of it. [19:30] DaemonFC[m] It's like Maricel saying you can both live on an unemployment check while I rob you blind. [19:30] DaemonFC[m] Nope. Can't do it. [19:31] schestowitz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L2t74FM-Ms [19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WaniKaniLet's Learn Some Kanji Together - YouTube [19:32] schestowitz just published [19:32] schestowitz he's covering bsd/gnu stuff [19:32] DaemonFC[m] If this goes south I'm going to email our wedding photos to everyone in her church. [19:33] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: yes, I heard about disability claims [19:33] schestowitz I once walked into a courtroom, in passing [19:33] DaemonFC[m] Which says they throw your whole stinking family out if one person is gay, and that you can't go into a court, and that's where our wedding was. [19:33] schestowitz and saw the case was about an old lady [19:33] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/ec43706338fb7db4.mp4 [19:33] schestowitz they hired a PI to film her [19:33] schestowitz he showed and testified she was doing housework [19:33] DaemonFC[m] We'll see how they like it when they're cast out of the entire Filipino community. [19:33] schestowitz and thus had lied about his physical condition [19:34] schestowitz i think I was about 10 when I saw it, we then moved to the next room/hearing [19:34] schestowitz but they secretly filmed people [19:34] schestowitz now they can just checked geo-tagged FB stuff [19:34] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, you have to be extremely careful when you're dealing with the government. [19:34] schestowitz so even if her grandkids filmed there, watch out!@ [19:34] schestowitz They're CCTVs with "Smart" things [19:34] DaemonFC[m] Even though I had permission to be in Indiana during probation, I turned my phone off and put it in a potato chip bag and paid cash for gas. [19:35] DaemonFC[m] You know the government is. The court will say you have permission to do something and then the probation department will get your phone records and try to get you in trouble anyway. [19:36] DaemonFC[m] It is kind of what they do. They see their job as trying to put people in violation so that the state can take another shot at them. [19:37] DaemonFC[m] That's why only 10% of people get off probation as scheduled. I mean, some fuck it up recklessly, but they go sifting through everything trying to get you into more trouble. [19:37] *Sajesajama (Salsa@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sajesajama) has joined #techrights [19:38] schestowitz MinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fazy0sXNvak [19:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play It Jack! - YouTube [19:39] MinceR :) [19:39] schestowitz did you see it before? [19:39] schestowitz rianne loled [19:39] MinceR no [19:40] *Sajesajama_ (Salsa@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/sajesajama) has joined #techrights [19:40] *tdemin (~tdemin@lan.tdem.in) has joined #techrights [19:41] *Sajesajama_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:45] DaemonFC[m] Another Intel graphics driver update ● Dec 24 [20:14] schestowitz new holes available [20:14] schestowitz install the latest defects [20:16] *agentmarkie (~markie@62.182.99.124) has joined #techrights [20:16] XRevan86 Turns out, in the US the second tour of the election is called a runoff. [20:18] smnthermes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKbZuWGjFCQ [20:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Pardons War Criminals & Swamp Creatures - YouTube [20:18] agentmarkie XRevan86 that not true, runoffs only happen in a handful of states [20:18] XRevan86 agentmarkie: Yes, explains why it's a term I hear so rarely. [20:20] agentmarkie XRevan86 well it's not rare when it's repeated 24/7 in news cycles [20:21] agentmarkie XRevan86 out of 50 states a runoff is only happening in 1. [20:22] agentmarkie XRevan86 what is more rare that that funny man? [20:24] XRevan86 Saw a video on Vox on the topic, they briefly mentioned what it is and then shitted on it for its implementation in Georgia being racially motivated. The logic checks out (a consolidated vote does win FPTP after all), but as a strong proponent of true majority wins I'm disappointed they made this accent showing it as something borderline evil. [20:25] XRevan86 If it doesn't serve immediate $PARTY_NAME interests then it's bad. [20:25] agentmarkie XRevan86 I think it's a stupid rule too but states are allowed to have stupid laws and people [20:25] XRevan86 A democrat would've won a FPTP election in Georgia, ergo a second tour is bad. [20:26] XRevan86 agentmarkie: I think that FPTP is extremely easily gamed. [20:27] agentmarkie XRevan86: I think we're all getting a wake up call [20:27] XRevan86 agentmarkie: I guess Vox doesn't really get it yet. [20:28] agentmarkie XRevan86: Maybe not, they're not that high on my list either. [20:28] XRevan86 The golden rule of FPTP is that diversity is punishable by death. [20:30] DaemonFC[m] https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/24/media/rush-limbaugh-cancer-show-close-trnd/index.html [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rush Limbaugh says he didn't expect to be alive in an emotional last show of 2020 - CNN [20:30] DaemonFC[m] Stage 4 lung cancer. [20:30] DaemonFC[m] Well, he's morbidly obese and smokes cigars. He's lucky he made it to 69. [20:30] XRevan86 Having two good candidates with similiar political angles is how they both won't be able to win even when having 70% of the population approving them. [20:30] DaemonFC[m] My brother has no health insurance at all thanks to the party that mom and he voted for. [20:31] DaemonFC[m] And he's extremely ill right now and she's worried about "socialists coming to take all of her money" even though she says they're broke. [20:31] XRevan86 having *three* similiar candiates is a sure death sentence [20:31] DaemonFC[m] Maybe if she didn't go to Fox News for her daily firmware update from the 0.1%, she'd realize the irony. [20:33] agentmarkie DaemonFC[m]: first of all your Mom and brother don't vote for the whole party the vote for maybe three guys in a party of thousands of politicians three guys don't get to change much [20:33] DaemonFC[m] The rich don't consider people who are unable to produce more wealth for them to be worth saving. [20:33] DaemonFC[m] So no insurance, no food, no housing, no nothing. [20:33] XRevan86 agentmarkie: These things add up though. [20:33] agentmarkie DaemonFC[m]: who cares what the rich thinks? [20:34] agentmarkie Dont we the people think anymore don't we do things too? [20:35] MinceR https://files.catbox.moe/rnexod.jpg [20:35] agentmarkie Talk Later I got to go grocery shopping, we the people need food and beverages. [20:36] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/XIaF5vfvrEs?t=157 anyway, here's the bit [20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Biden's presidency hinges on one last election - YouTube [20:39] XRevan86 Anyway, that explanation on how this harms black minority voting is correct, a second tour is indeed designed to avoid a minority of votes to pick the winner. [20:40] XRevan86 Could be a minority with just one candidate (consolidated), could be United Russia, could be the Republican Party. [20:41] XRevan86 The sheep of propaganda tend to be very consolidated as well, so FPTP is a big party present to them. [20:42] XRevan86 well, technically to their masters [20:42] XRevan86 The sheep themselves will get [20:42] XRevan86 > And he's extremely ill right now and she's worried about "socialists coming to take all of her money" even though she says they're broke. [20:47] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072626 [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4783064) [20:47] XRevan86 So I'm surprised that Vox took a dump on the second tour system regardless of who benefitted from it in the past, the result is more democratic this way, and this is what every election should look like. [20:47] XRevan86 Maybe the federal Justice Department should think about that. ● Dec 24 [21:03] scientes merry christmas everyone [21:06] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [21:07] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/20072556 [21:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4782448) [21:07] *vZS1 (~vZS1@92.40.169.39.threembb.co.uk) has joined #techrights [21:22] *Sajesajama has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:28] *vZS1 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:28] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [21:30] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: I didn't really want to blurt out what day our interview is or where because these are publicly logged rooms and I'm sure the bitch queen of Tondo has Google. Never put anything past someone. [21:30] DaemonFC[m] She certainly wouldn't do anything good for us if she possessed that information. [21:30] DaemonFC[m] But we should have time to compile everything they requested. [21:31] DaemonFC[m] It's not really a laundry list. It's things like bank records and marriage certificate and pay stubs and ID proving I'm a US citizen, so nothing I wasn't expecting. [21:31] DaemonFC[m] What I'm more concerned about is Mandy not being able to sit through a deposition and tell them what they want to hear and nothing more. [21:32] DaemonFC[m] Well, it's like any other legal process. [21:32] DaemonFC[m] Don't lie, don't be evasive, but don't volunteer anything they didn't ask for and keep your answers short. [21:32] DaemonFC[m] I hear they like to play gotcha games. [21:33] DaemonFC[m] Like some people go in there and under pressure they can't remember their wedding day, or they can't remember what their first date was or what day it was on. [21:33] DaemonFC[m] Lawyers say it's better to just honestly say "This is embarrassing but I honestly cannot recall the specific day." than to have conflicting answers. [21:34] DaemonFC[m] Obviously it's better to just go in there and remember what day you got married and what you did on your first date and how you met. I mean, it's basic stuff. Saying you forgot is bad, but getting caught flubbing answers is worse. [21:35] DaemonFC[m] And you are under oath, so anything you say that can be proven false is potentially criminal. [21:36] DaemonFC[m] I was warned by the person who prepared our petition that if they are really skeptical they can separate you and then they'll tell the citizen "You know, we know this is fake. If you just admit it we can make sure you won't get in trouble.". [21:36] DaemonFC[m] I really don't think they'll do that but I already have a response if they do. [21:38] DaemonFC[m] "I love my spouse and that is why I married him. I can't control what you believe, but this marriage is real and I have done nothing wrong. I can't stop you from doing whatever it is you decide to do next, but I am prepared to deal with whatever it is because I made a promise to him in a court in front of a judge and I am bound by that regardless of where this proceeding goes.". [21:39] DaemonFC[m] First of all, it's true. [21:39] DaemonFC[m] Secondly, they're lying about there being no consequences if you admitted to a crime. [21:39] DaemonFC[m] So persisting is the only logical step. [21:41] DaemonFC[m] The entire reason they say something like that is because people who really are faking it and aren't strongly committed to their spouse would use that as an opportunity to try to bolt, and then they'd get slapped with criminal charges after having admitted to a crime. [21:44] DaemonFC[m] It's just a variation on the police saying if you confess now we can clear this all up at the station. [21:45] DaemonFC[m] In fact, I was talking with our petition preparer about that. I said, "Lots of people in jail because the cops convinced them they could clear it all up down at the station....and they did.". [21:46] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: As for 3,401 more dead, it's heavily tilted towards Republicans. [21:46] DaemonFC[m] They're the ones flying and being Mask Karen and stuff. [21:49] *drdogcow_ (~drunkendo@gateway/tor-sasl/drunkendogcowm/x-45413332) has left #techrights ("WeeChat 3.0") [21:49] DaemonFC[m] You know, 3400 a day is 4 times as bad as an average month's worth of military dead during the peak of the Iraq and Afghan wars. [21:50] DaemonFC[m] So this is something like having 120 or so wars going on. [21:51] DaemonFC[m] This Coronavirus disaster was completely preventable. [21:52] DaemonFC[m] And of course 42% of the country will never admit that Trump cost more people their lives than a famine after a Communist uprising. [21:56] DaemonFC[m] https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/24/business/brexit-deal-economy/index.html [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | 4 ways the UK economy will be poorer after Brexit despite deal - CNN [21:56] DaemonFC[m] "Workers from outside the UK are absolutely vital to the success of our horticultural sector," NFU vice president Tom Bradshaw told CNN Business last week. "We are at a critical time in recruitment for many growers. As freedom of movement ends on Dec. 31, [growers] still don't know where they will recruit experienced workers from." [21:56] DaemonFC[m] ---- [21:56] DaemonFC[m] Try the unemployment line! [21:56] DaemonFC[m] :) [21:59] DaemonFC[m] Roseanne to the state representative: "Door to door huh? That must take a long time. Why don't you go to the unemployment office so you can talk to everyone at once?". [21:59] MinceR (cat) (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/0656947453d36021.mp4 ● Dec 24 [22:01] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [22:26] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-duijytffthliaxuj) has joined #techrights [22:28] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [22:28] *birkoff (birkoff@unaffiliated/birkoff) has joined #techrights [22:28] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [22:28] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-duijytffthliaxuj) has joined #techrights [22:33] *davisr (davisr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/davisr) has joined #techrights [22:50] *davisr has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:53] DaemonFC[m] Twitter is telling Brave users that their browser is unsupported and that they need to switch browsers. [22:53] DaemonFC[m] https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/kji94c/twitter_no_longer_supporting_brave/ [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Twitter no longer supporting Brave? : brave_browser [22:54] psydroid Shithub is telling me that too with other browsers [22:54] psydroid Maybe the problem is Shithub and Twitter [22:55] DaemonFC[m] Apparently Disney+ gives Brave errors now. [22:55] XRevan86 DaemonFC[m]: Clearly something about the settings. ● Dec 24 [23:00] *davisr (davisr@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/davisr) has joined #techrights [23:05] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:17] DaemonFC[m] I wonder how much more mileage Apple's advertising budget will pay for to drum up interest in the M1 chip before people realize that macOS is garbage and if you get an M1, you're stuck with it, and they will have absolutely no incentive to fix anything or support you for several years because you can't use another operating system. [23:18] DaemonFC[m] All of a sudden, it's trendy to comment on how great it is to lose half your application performance to emulation or, at best, have a native build of something like Firefox perform no better on the M1 than it does on a Tiger Lake Intel PC laptop. [23:22] psydroid It's because they don't realise Linux on x86 gives them the same performance as crapOS on M1 and M1 only looks good because it runs crapOS better [23:25] vZS1 This is how the web kidnaps users [23:26] psydroid I have little to complain about when it comes to Linux on Skylake, it's as fast as it ever was [23:29] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTHRU6V54GU [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Christmas Megademo 2020 - C64 Demo by The Santas - YouTube [23:35] DaemonFC[m] Firefox on Windows still outperforms Linux. [23:36] DaemonFC[m] Mozilla hasn't put much work into optimizing the Linux port. They still view it as unimportant. [23:36] DaemonFC[m] They've turned on and worked out the kinks in WebRender on Windows with most graphics cards and resolutions. [23:36] DaemonFC[m] But on Linux, not so much. [23:37] smnthermes It also has a weaker sandbox on Linux [23:38] psydroid If they do all of their development on crapOS, they will never be able to optimise it properly for Linux [23:43] MinceR i wouldn't expect any sort of optimization from a corporation that cripples their kernel by welding another kernel to it to produce marketing claims [23:43] vZS1 WSL? [23:43] MinceR macos [23:43] vZS1 Oh [23:43] MinceR or from the corporation that gave up everything that made their browser superior and handed even their newest rendering engine off to some other corporation for development [23:43] MinceR (mozilla) [23:44] vZS1 They can only rip off of FreeBSD so much [23:44] vZS1 (macOS) [23:44] vZS1 BSD license means they can keep all their ripping off a secret [23:44] MinceR microshit just drew an imaginary line around a tiny part of their massively bloated kernel and claimed that was a microkernel [23:45] DaemonFC[m] I'm honestly surprised that Movies and TV and Groove Music are optional on Windows 10. [23:45] DaemonFC[m] I compared playback performance of Movies and TV and VLC on a 10-bit HEVC file and they both did about as well as far as CPU usage, but VLC was clearly better in the "If I pause it and come back, it doesn't sometimes jitter and lag until I close and reopen it." department. [23:46] vZS1 Microshit can't just rip off Linux and claim they made it because it's GPL and not behind a clown service. That's why they are forced to "<3 Linux" [23:47] vZS1 They would just do what crApple did with FreeBSD, otherwise. [23:47] DaemonFC[m] Maybe they could just use VLC as the basis for a media platform that works. Who knows? [23:47] MinceR maybe if they could just do what crApple did to FreeBSD and Mach, they wouldn't have taken over Linux [23:47] MinceR then again, maybe they would have [23:48] DaemonFC[m] Well, the underlying OS components on the Mac haven't been significantly upgraded in years. [23:48] DaemonFC[m] They just get tossed around with a new coat of paint and idiots eat it up and stuff. [23:48] vZS1 A lot of these media players are built with VLC code as a reference [23:49] vZS1 Because VLC is industry standard [23:49] DaemonFC[m] VLC gets a lot of its codecs from FFMpeg. [23:49] vZS1 Has been _the_ reference implementation for a while but e [23:49] vZS1 s/but e/now [23:49] DaemonFC[m] They actually weren't even aware that they could play WavPack files. [23:50] DaemonFC[m] FFMPeg refused a simple patch that would have added WavPack DSF/DSD support. [23:50] vZS1 Isn't VLC meant to be used more as a streaming program? [23:50] DaemonFC[m] You can use it like that, but it can play local files too. [23:50] DaemonFC[m] That's certainly how I've always used it, especially on Windows. [23:50] MinceR i think originally it was meant as a client for their video streaming server, but i don't know how much emphasis is on that now [23:50] DaemonFC[m] Because the other option were pirate codec packs with viruses in them. [23:51] DaemonFC[m] Or at least managed to break Windows somehow. [23:51] DaemonFC[m] The done thing with Windows is to leave the built in components alone and find something else. [23:51] vZS1 I use it to play videos locally too but it seems more like it's built to stream things [23:51] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft even managed to fuck up an MP3 decoder. [23:51] vZS1 It's a pretty large program [23:52] DaemonFC[m] Apparently they licensed one for XP from FhG and then changed it in a way that violated the specification. [23:52] DaemonFC[m] Who knows why. [23:52] XRevan86 https://teddit.net/r/Honor/comments/jfaiki/0/ there's something beautiful about this [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-teddit.net | Turning off Honor 8x without screen? : Honor [23:52] psydroid I have the GNU Mach code checked out, but I don't really understand it and it seems to be lacking documentation about what it actually does and how [23:52] MinceR they did that because they know better than everyone else :> [23:53] DaemonFC[m] The latest Galaxy phones continue their war on people who just want to dump a bunch of MP3 files on it and use it like that. [23:53] psydroid I know it's crap, but I want to know why it's crappy [23:53] DaemonFC[m] They have these stupid headphone dongles like Apple now, but still support SD cards at least. [23:53] MinceR they tried to get rid of the memory card slot too [23:54] MinceR i guess their customers drew the line there [23:54] DaemonFC[m] I remember back when iTunes was new and I wanted to try out AAC because Apple said it was better. [23:54] DaemonFC[m] So I encoded one file as 128k MP3 and one as 128k AAC with iTunes. [23:54] DaemonFC[m] And then I went "I really can't tell the difference.". [23:55] vZS1 XRevan86: what did I just read. My eyes....... [23:55] DaemonFC[m] For a long time, the multi-format listening tests showed that Apple's AAC wasn't doing better than LAME. [23:56] DaemonFC[m] Eventually it did do a little better, statistically, but not for more than a decade after Apple said they were using it because it massively outperformed MP3. [23:56] vZS1 > they tried to get rid of the memory card slot too [23:56] vZS1 Don't most phones come with fixed memory now? [23:57] vZS1 Or is this something else [23:57] DaemonFC[m] When you have to turn to a chart at bitrates that don't even matter anymore because hundreds of GB are on an SD card, to say there's a slight improvement. [23:57] DaemonFC[m] I mean, this is why AAC never caught on and there was no serious open source efforts with it. [23:57] vZS1 > there was no serious open source efforts with it [23:57] MinceR vZS1: they do, but some of them also have a microSD slot [23:58] vZS1 Apple and Microsoft lost to Google because of decisions like this [23:58] vZS1 They didn't nurture 3rd-party developers [23:59] vZS1 So Android won the smartphone wars [23:59] DaemonFC[m] I think Maddox's review of the Star Wars prequels as "A great big steaming pile of Sith." was pretty accurate, but Disney has actually done far worse to the series than George Lucas. [23:59] DaemonFC[m] There's another movie every year now and it's like "Who are these people again and why do I care?" [23:59] MinceR it seems to me google also scaled back their "open source efforts"