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● Dec 24
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[00:03]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, I have one of those winter coats that comes apart into three pieces, so I can wash it in my little washing machine. I wasn't considering that when I bought it, but it's nice.
[00:03]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: any plans for tomorrow?
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Mom's landlord's mother complained that the laundromat charged her ten dollars to dry clean her coat.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	It was one of those big expensive old people coats from the 70s.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	She was like "Ten dollars! I didn't want to buy it again!".
[00:04]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR2> DaemonFC: any plans for tomorrow?
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Not really.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Maybe go out to eat.
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR2	the old coats were good
[00:04]	schestowitz-TR2	made more properly
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	I still use a coat I had as a (iirc) 15 y-o
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	I still remember buying it with my mom
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	it's almost in mint condition still
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	walking boots were the same
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	you could repair them and uee them for decades
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	but now people love "cheap and fast"
[00:05]	schestowitz-TR2	so they buy it... 10 times over
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	neither cheap nor long-lasting
[00:06]	schestowitz-TR2	and not worth the cost of shoe repair
[00:07]	DaemonFC	My winter boots are okay.
[00:07]	DaemonFC	Need to get some replacement shoelaces though.
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	firefighters' boots are great
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	but expensive
[00:07]	schestowitz-TR2	and maybe impossible to get
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	lots of layers in them
[00:08]	DaemonFC	People don't like "cheap".
[00:08]	DaemonFC	People are broke.
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	yes, it's like sachet
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	in .ph
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	more expensive
[00:08]	schestowitz-TR2	but you pay for what you can afford immediatelyu
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	not thinking about total life of the product
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	the real cost
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	meanwhile bilbil (tagalog) flies with epstein
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	and tells us the worst of the thing he sells vaccines for is yet to come
[00:09]	schestowitz-TR2	and the media is apparently back to "bilbil says" pieces
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Bill Gates was saying the "worst of the pandemic is ahead". No shit, Sherlock.
[00:10]	DaemonFC	And the vaccines didn't make things any better.
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	buy MOAR
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	he has patents
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	he wants to be #1 again, bezos annoys him
[00:10]	schestowitz-TR2	btw, bilbil said last year we were resolving this
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR2	and that climate change would be a big challenge
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR2	billbc did a bibilsays piece
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR2	as if, OK, we're done here
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR2	let's sell book abotu climate
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR2	buy my patented fake burgers
[00:11]	schestowitz-TR2	we need to call out, naming and shaming, all publication that take bribes from this criminal
[00:12]	schestowitz-TR2	maybe they'll stop
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[00:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, If you're eligible for "safe driver renewal" the Illinois DMV won't even let you make an appointment to go in now.
[00:15]	DaemonFC	I got really lucky, schestowitz-TR2 insofar as having to get my car fixed after two felonious cocksuckers without a license or insurance ran into it, and then the cops stuck a ticket in my hand and let the assholes go.
[00:16]	DaemonFC	After they faked a back injury they never bothered to file an insurance claim.
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	don't say "cocksuckers"
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	even if you are gay
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[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	the term "cocksuckers" puts off people
[00:16]	DaemonFC	So no accident on my record because my insurance company never had to pay anything.
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR2	and you give ammo to our adversaries 
[00:16]	DaemonFC	Then I beat the ticket because nobody showed up, so no failure to yield.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	That would have been real bad. My rates would have gone through the roof.
[00:17]	DaemonFC	Fixing the car wouldn't have been 10% of it after they were done with me.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Then no "safe driver" so I'd have to go stand at the DMV for 4 hours to do anything, every year, for the next 5 years.
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[00:19]	DaemonFC	It's on George Carlin's dirty words you can't say on the radio.
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR2	yes
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR2	but we are not standup comedy
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[00:41]	TR News	#Krita 5.0 Released! Much Faster Now while Less Memory Usage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159460#comment-32262 #kde
[00:41]	TR Bot	 Krita 5.0 Open-Source Digital Painting Software Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[00:41]	TR News	#GIMP 2.10.30 improves support for PSD and various image formats http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159378#comment-32263 #gnu #freesw
[00:41]	TR Bot	 GIMP 2.10.30 Improves Support for PSD and AVIF Files, Supports Modern Linux Distros | Tux Machines
[00:41]	TR News	Neptune 7.0 Faye Released with Zswap, Based on #Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159475 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:41]	TR Bot	 Neptune 7.0 Faye Released with Zswap, Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines
[00:54]	TR News	Best Linux File Managers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159476 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:54]	TR Bot	 Best Linux File Managers | Tux Machines
[00:54]	TR News	#Audacity 3.1.3 Open-Source Audio Editor Makes Project Loading Up to 50x Faster Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159477 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:54]	TR Bot	 Audacity 3.1.3 Open-Source Audio Editor Makes Project Loading Up to 50x Faster | Tux Machines
[00:54]	TR News	23 Best Free Internet Radio Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159478 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:54]	TR Bot	 23 Best Free Internet Radio Software | Tux Machines
● Dec 24
[01:00]	TR News	My Top 5 Linux Distro Releases of 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159479 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:00]	TR Bot	 My Top 5 Linux Distro Releases of 2021 | Tux Machines
[01:00]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159480 #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:00]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:00]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159481 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:00]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
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[01:08]	TR News	Web #Programming and Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159482 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:08]	TR Bot	 Web Programming and Frameworks | Tux Machines
[01:08]	TR News	Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: "Who REALLY OWNS Linux", elementary OS 6.1 Jlnir Overview, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159483 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:08]	TR Bot	 Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: "Who REALLY OWNS Linux", elementary OS 6.1 Jlnir Overview, and More | Tux Machines
[01:09]	TR News	Top alternatives of #Microsoft #Outlook for GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159484 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Top alternatives of Microsoft Outlook for Linux | Tux Machines
[01:10]	TR News	Update Regarding Slovenia and #VojkoToman Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/ #Techrights #europe #slovenia | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/ @jrepin
[01:10]	TR Bot	 Update Regarding Slovenia and Vojko Toman | Techrights
[01:11]	TR News	End of Year Posts Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159485 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:11]	TR Bot	 End of Year Posts | Tux Machines
[01:11]	TR News	#Fedora and #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159486 #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:11]	TR Bot	 Fedora and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:12]	TR News	Sustainable creativity in a world without #copyright Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159487 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming
[01:12]	TR Bot	 Sustainable creativity in a world without copyright | Tux Machines
[01:14]	TR News	Mike Gabriel: MATE 1.26 has finally landed in #Debian testing Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159488 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw
[01:14]	TR Bot	 Mike Gabriel: MATE 1.26 has finally landed in Debian testing | Tux Machines
[01:15]	TR News	#Proprietary and #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159489 #TuxMachines
[01:15]	TR Bot	 Proprietary and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:16]	TR News	#OpenHardware /Modding: Retro, Linux, Arduino, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159490 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:16]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: Retro, Linux, Arduino, and More | Tux Machines
[01:17]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159491 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:17]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	#Audacity Delivers an Early Xmas Present: 50x Faster Project Loading http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159477#comment-32266 #freesw #spyware
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Audacity 3.1.3 Open-Source Audio Editor Makes Project Loading Up to 50x Faster | Tux Machines
[01:18]	TR News	Links 24/12/2021: Neptune 7.0 Faye Released, Another Massive Security Hole in #Azure Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/neptune-7-0-faye-released/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/neptune-7-0-faye-released/
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Links 24/12/2021: Neptune 7.0 Faye Released, Another Massive Security Hole in Azure | Techrights
[01:34]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.76 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.66
[01:41]	TR News	Arduino IoT Cloud Scheduler Enhances Automation for Your Projects https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/arduino-iot-cloud-scheduler-brings-enhanced-automation-to-your-projects/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
[01:41]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/arduino-iot-cloud-scheduler-brings-enhanced-automation-to-your-projects/
[01:41]	TR Bot	 Arduino IoT Cloud Scheduler Enhances Automation for Your Projects
[01:41]	TR News	Retrofit your light switch with this remote-controlled device | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/retrofit-your-light-switch-with-this-remote-controlled-device/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
[01:41]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/23/retrofit-your-light-switch-with-this-remote-controlled-device/
[01:41]	TR Bot	 Retrofit your light switch with this remote-controlled device | Arduino Blog
[01:42]	TR News	"Theres no information about software, but we can assume the system runs a #Linux OS based on #Qualcomm SDK or #OpenWrt ." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/23/dual-10gbe-router-supports-wifi-6-ax3600/
[01:42]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/12/23/dual-10gbe-router-supports-wifi-6-ax3600/
[01:42]	TR Bot	 Dual 10GbE router supports WiFi 6 (AX3600) - CNX Software
[01:48]	TR News	"The stepper motor is driven by an #Arduino Nano" https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/a-simple-3d-printed-gear-clock-shows-off-how-it-works/
[01:48]	TR Bot	Simple 3D Printed Gear Clock Shows Off How It Works | Hackaday
[01:48]	TR News	This is, in effect, a back doors in #AMD processor, akin to M.E. in all #Intel processors https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-AMD-i2c-PSP-Sharing #x86
[01:48]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: phoronix.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-AMD-i2c-PSP-Sharing
[01:48]	TR Bot	Linux Patches For AMD i2c Bus Sharing With The PSP - Phoronix
[01:55]	TR News	#proprietarySoftware "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-357-02
[01:55]	TR Bot	 Johnson Controls exacq Enterprise Manager | CISA
[01:55]	TR News	Another one: #proprietarySoftware "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-357-01
[01:55]	TR Bot	 Moxa MGate Protocol Gateways | CISA
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[02:02]	TR News	Lovely, #microsoft , just lovely https://thehackernews.com/2021/12/4-year-old-bug-in-azure-app-service.html no wonder #azure staff is being laid off. Dying platform... http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/
[02:02]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: thehackernews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thehackernews.com/2021/12/4-year-old-bug-in-azure-app-service.html
[02:02]	TR Bot	 4-Year-Old Bug in Azure App Service Exposed Hundreds of Source Code Repositories
[02:02]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights
[02:02]	TR News	"Almost three years ago, we moved the existing Ask #Fedora site from an engine which attempted to replicate Stack Exchange to a new system (the current Ask Fedora) based on Discourse, a modern open source web forum platform. We had some frustrations with the software" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/upcoming-downtime-for-fedora-discussion/
[02:02]	TR Bot	 Upcoming downtime for Fedora Discussion Fedora Community Blog
[02:14]	DaemonFC	https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/22/politics/antiviral-pill-biden-statement/index.html
[02:14]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2021/12/22/politics/antiviral-pill-biden-statement/index.html
[02:14]	TR Bot	 Biden says 250,000 treatment courses of Pfizer's antiviral pill will be available in January - CNNPolitics
[02:14]	DaemonFC	A million people a day will get COVID.
[02:14]	DaemonFC	250,000 for the entire month will get treatment.
[02:14]	DaemonFC	-The Government
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR2	some plan...
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR2	did mr micro-soft get hard?
[02:16]	TR News	What. Da. Fark. "FOSS Life" promoting #adobe #proprietarySoftware and there's not even remotely a rationale for this. Why not GIMP or Krita? https://www.fosslife.org/adobe-launches-free-graphics-tool
[02:16]	TR Bot	 Adobe Launches Free Graphics Tool
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[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-231221.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
[02:38]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-231221.txt
[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
[02:39]	TR News	2021: The Year the #LibreOffice Documentation Team Shined https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/12/23/2021-the-year-documentation-team-shined/ #freesw
[02:39]	TR Bot	 2021: The Year the LibreOffice Documentation Team Shined - The Document Foundation Blog
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-231221.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
[02:39]	TR News	"In this video, I am going to show an overview of #elementaryOS 6.1 Odin and some of the applications pre-installed." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=djDnD1gUhVg #gnu #;omix
[02:39]	TR Bot	 elementary OS 6.1 Jlnir overview | The smart, capable and ethical replacement for Windows and macOS - Invidious
[02:39]	TR News	Why linking #Aadhaar with voter IDs could end up excluding voters - Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/why-linking-aadhaar-with-voter-ids-could-end-up-excluding-voters/articleshow/88437603.cms #timesofindia #india
[02:39]	TR Bot	 Why linking Aadhaar with voter IDs could end up excluding voters - Times of India
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-231221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-231221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-231221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-231221.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
[02:41]	TR News	The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXXX: The Idiosyncratic Italians Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #italy | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/
[02:41]	TR Bot	 The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXXX: The Idiosyncratic Italians | Techrights
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-23.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-23.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
● Dec 24
[03:00]	TR News	"features are good, a lack of features is bad; that's the law of the web" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231221.html#tDec%2023%2013:07:34
[03:00]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, December 23, 2021
[03:02]	TR News	Man bites dog https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/wellbeing/newcastle-church-of-ubuntu-sacked-woman-for-getting-covid19-vaccine/news-story/c0c9f6315bb431f1dc460adbb811e0b7
[03:02]	TR Bot	Church of Ubuntu sacked woman for getting Covid-19 vaccine | news.com.au Australias leading news site
[03:06]	TR News	#nft = #scam and over-valuing bkuhn https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2021/dec/23/nft-faces-of-open-source/
[03:06]	TR Bot	 On Non-Fungible Tokens, Faces of Our Leadership, and Supporting Artists - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy
[03:06]	TR News	#Systemd 250 released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159492 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[03:06]	TR Bot	 Systemd 250 released | Tux Machines
[03:09]	TR News	he EPO-friendly #VojkoToman, who also protected #AntnioCampinos , was the subject of recent media coverage in #Slovenia Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/ #Techrights #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/update-re-slovenia/
[03:09]	TR Bot	 Update Regarding Slovenia and Vojko Toman | Techrights
[03:10]	TR News	At last, #Techrights takes a look at the person who represented #Italy in the #EPO for over 15 years Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/ #europe #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/23/italy-epo/
[03:15]	TR News	"On behalf of the Rakudo development team, Im very happy to announce the December 2021 release of Rakudo #152. #Rakudo is an implementation of the Raku1 language." https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2021.12 #rakulang #programming
[03:15]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: rakudo.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2021.12
[03:15]	TR Bot	 Rakudo compiler, Release #152 (2021.12) - Rakudo Compiler for Raku Programming Language
[03:16]	TR News	#OpenCV Knows Where Your Hand Is | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/opencv-knows-where-your-hand-is/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/24/#latest
[03:16]	TR Bot	Knows Where Your Hand Is | Hackaday
[03:16]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[03:18]	TR News	Last minute gift ideas: give an FSF membership and other free software gifts https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/last-minute-gift-ideas-give-an-fsf-membership-and-other-free-software-gifts #FSF #GNU #FreeSW #SoftwareFreedom c
[03:18]	TR Bot	 Last minute gift ideas: give an FSF membership and other free software gifts Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[03:19]	TR News	Fixing A #Freezer Design Flaw With A Little Bit Of Heat | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/fixing-a-freezer-design-flaw-with-a-little-bit-of-heat/ #hackaday
[03:19]	TR Bot	A Freezer Design Flaw With A Little Bit Of Heat | Hackaday
[03:20]	TR News	Xsnow: Brings Snow To A Poor Aussie #GNULinux User - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XOyid9J9Cug #video #invidious #gnu #linux
[03:20]	TR Bot	 Xsnow: Brings Snow To A Poor Aussie Linux User - Invidious
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[03:21]	TR News	Unleashing Accelerated Speeds with RAM Drives https://www.admin-magazine.com/Archive/2021/64/Unleashing-Accelerated-Speeds-with-RAM-Drives
[03:21]	TR Bot	 RAM Drive Acceleration ADMIN Magazine
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[03:24]	TR News	"The #PostgreSQL Core Team has published its activity report for the period between June 2019 through December 2021" https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-core-team-report-june-2019-december-2021-2381/ #psql #freesw #db
[03:24]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Core Team Report: June 2019 - December 2021
[03:25]	TR News	" #Firebird Project is happy to announce general availability of Firebird 4.0.1 the first point release in the Firebird 4.0 series." https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2021/12/firebird-project-is-happy-to-announce.html
[03:25]	TR Bot	 Mariuz's Blog: Firebird Project is happy to announce general availability of Firebird 4.0.1
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[03:26]	TR News	What #Kubernetes taught me about development | https://opensource.com/article/21/12/kubernetes-developer #FreeSW #RedHat #GNU #Linux
[03:26]	TR Bot	Kubernetes taught me about development | Opensource.com
[03:28]	TR News	#Polychromatic should #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Polychromatic-0.7.3 #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
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[03:28]	TR Bot	0.7.3 Released With New Razer Device Support, 8000Hz Polling - Phoronix
[03:28]	TR Bot	 Delete Github - Techrights
[03:30]	TR News	"... computer language design is just like a stroll in the park. Jurassic Park, that is." -- Larry Wall http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2021/12/my-favorite-warnings-ambiguous.html #perl #programming
[03:31]	TR Bot	Favorite Warnings: ambiguous | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
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[03:34]	MinceR	:)
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[03:42]	TR News	Fake progress. PalmOS could do it 20 years ago. https://www.addictivetips.com/ios/how-to-use-google-maps-while-music-is-playing-on-your-phone/
[03:42]	TR Bot	 How to use Google Maps while music is playing on your phone
[03:43]	MinceR	lol
[03:43]	TR News	"Apps" are about removing functionality you used to have. #clowncomputing is about removing #privacy or #dataprotection you've long enjoyed. "Smart" means the opposite of that word.
[03:48]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: realplayer for example
[03:48]	schestowitz-TR2	could play as a background process
[03:48]	schestowitz-TR2	in the pseudo multitask system 
[03:48]	schestowitz-TR2	of early versions of palmOS
[03:49]	schestowitz-TR2	prior to tungsten even
[03:49]	MinceR	i know
[03:49]	MinceR	but it's hilarious that someone is still dealing with this on a hypePhone in 2021 instead of getting a real phone
[03:50]	schestowitz-TR2	yeah,
[03:50]	schestowitz-TR2	I'm liks..
[03:50]	schestowitz-TR2	Waht. da. FARK!
[03:50]	schestowitz-TR2	consider how much processing power these have
[03:50]	schestowitz-TR2	you could plug in a 1080p display
[03:51]	schestowitz-TR2	and rung lots of stuff on ... how much RAM is on today's phones? Last I  checked the high end ones were like 10GB
[03:51]	schestowitz-TR2	and I checked like 5+ years agho
[03:52]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159493 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[03:52]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[03:53]	TR News	#RakuAdvent Calendar: Day 24 Packaging and unpackaging real good https://raku-advent.blog/2021/12/24/packaging-and-unpackaging-real-good/ #programming #rakulang
[03:53]	TR Bot	 Day 24 Packaging and unpackaging real good Raku Advent Calendar
[03:56]	TR News	"You would assume that any #programming language available back in the 1960s would be small enough to easily implement on todays computers. Thats not always true though, since old languages sometimes used multiple passes." https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/lisp-in-436-bytes/
[03:56]	TR Bot	In 436 Bytes | Hackaday
[03:57]	TR News	"Being ubiquitous, Google Analytics raises privacy concerns. When someone visits a website that uses Google Analytics, Google uses your IP address to track who you visit in order to determine your approximate geographic location." #malware from #gulag -- please do not add it to sites! https://linuxhint.com/google-analytics/
[03:57]	TR Bot	 Google-Analytics
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[04:00]	TR News	#freesw Unlocks the Worlds Potential Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159494 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[04:00]	TR Bot	 Open Unlocks the Worlds Potential | Tux Machines
[04:01]	TR News	#freesw is dangerous, says company that puts #backdoors in everything for #nsa et al. #microsoft http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[04:01]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
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[04:02]	TR News	Don't use #skype or #microsoft #teams ... tools of #imperialism http://techrights.org/2012/06/20/skype-and-nsa/
[04:02]	TR Bot	 Skype in Microsofts Hands Gives NSA Access to International Phonecalls | Techrights
[04:03]	TR News	#Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159495 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[04:03]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[04:04]	TR News	Fake progress: copycats of #irc like #slack and other crap, with 10-100 more RAM consumption and no #privacy at all. We're being sold a pile of s- and then told it tastes lovely.
[04:05]	TR News	How can you take Sway seriously if it does not #deletegithub h Do you really want to adopt projects that trust #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware for coding?
[04:05]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, December 23, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:05]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:09]	TR News	 NEWS #DJAdams Truncation and neat terminal output https://qmacro.org/autodidactics/2021/12/23/truncation-and-neat-terminal-output/
[04:09]	TR Bot	 Truncation and neat terminal output
[04:09]	TR News	 NEWS #ChenHuiJing The many methods for using #SVG icons https://chenhuijing.com/blog/the-many-methods-for-using-svg-icons/
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[04:09]	TR Bot	 The many methods for using SVG icons
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[04:12]	TR News	 NEWS #JeffGeerling #OpenHardware #RaspberryPi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2021/raspberry-pi-holds-its-own-against-low-cost-arm-nas
[04:12]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi holds its own against low-cost ARM NAS | Jeff Geerling
[04:16]	TR News	 NEWS #CSSTricks #Programming Test Your Product on a Crappy Laptop https://css-tricks.com/test-your-product-on-a-crappy-laptop/
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[04:16]	TR Bot	Your Product on a Crappy Laptop - CSS-Tricks
[04:16]	TR News	 NEWS #Programming Hunting Bugs with Bisect https://matt-rickard.com/git-bisect/
[04:16]	TR Bot	 Hunting Bugs with Bisect
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[04:21]	TR News	 NEWS #ProprietarySoftware MS Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities https://positive.security/blog/ms-teams-1-feature-4-vulns
[04:21]	TR Bot	 MS Teams: 1 feature, 4 vulnerabilities | Positive Security
[04:22]	TR News	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #TheHill #ProprietarySoftware Harris calls for 'cyber doctrine' to address increasing attacks https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/586995-harris-calls-for-cyber-doctrine-to-address-increasing-attacks http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
[04:22]	TR Bot	calls for 'cyber doctrine' to address increasing attacks | TheHill
[04:22]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
[04:23]	TR News	"Regardless of how passionate and dedicated they may be, #Microsoft employees, unlike Sr. leadership, have little to no influence on environmental variables such as headcount, workload, schedules, resources, morale, management, standards, or ideologies being leveraged" http://techrights.org/2021/12/21/the-microsoft-shuffle-making-ones-own-products-intentionally-defective/
[04:23]	TR Bot	 The Microsoft Shuffle: Making Ones Own Products Intentionally Defective | Techrights
[04:30]	TR News	 NEWS #PCWorld Dont trust hotel Wi-Fi during holiday travel. Heres how to keep your info safe https://www.pcworld.com/article/561262/how-to-use-safe-wi-fi-connections-when-youre-traveling.html
[04:30]	TR Bot	trust hotel Wi-Fi during holiday travel. Here's how to keep your info safe | PCWorld
[04:31]	TR News	 NEWS #TheSundayTimesUK #Privacy #Surveillance Detective #Tesla videos itself being keyed https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/detective-tesla-videos-itself-being-keyed-cpfq2xgqf
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[04:31]	TR Bot	 Detective Tesla videos itself being keyed | News | The Times
[04:31]	TR News	 NEWS #Privacy #Surveillance #Tesla on-board cameras show woman keying car https://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/19801139.tesla-on-board-cameras-show-woman-keying-car-poole/
[04:31]	TR Bot	 Tesla on-board cameras show woman keying car | Dorset Echo
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[04:34]	TR News	 NEWS #NYOB #Privacy #Surveillance 4th Advent Reading: #Facebook fully ignores #Schrems rulings by Court of Justice https://noyb.eu/en/4th-advent-reading-facebook-fully-ignores-schrems-rulings-court-justice
[04:34]	TR Bot	 4th Advent Reading: Facebook fully ignores "Schrems" rulings by Court of Justice
[04:34]	TR News	 NEWS #NYOB #Privacy #Surveillance Third noyb "Advent Reading" from #Facebook / #DPC Documents https://noyb.eu/en/third-noyb-advent-reading-facebookdpc-documents also see http://techrights.org/2021/03/16/formal-report-microsoft-violations/
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[04:34]	TR Bot	 Third noyb "Advent Reading" from Facebook/DPC Documents
[04:34]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Breaking European Privacy Laws While Distracting the Public: The Evidence (a Formal 91-Page Report) | Techrights
[04:35]	TR News	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Court: Ad Agency Must Pay Damages For Placing Adverts on Pirate Manga Site https://torrentfreak.com/court-agencies-must-pay-damages-for-placing-adverts-on-pirate-manga-site-211223/
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[04:35]	TR Bot	Ad Agency Must Pay Damages For Placing Adverts on Pirate Manga Site * TorrentFreak
[04:35]	TR News	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Pirate Party Fills Three Ministerial Positions in New Czech Government https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-fills-three-ministerial-positions-in-new-czech-government-211223/
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[04:35]	TR Bot	Party Fills Three Ministerial Positions in New Czech Government * TorrentFreak
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[04:43]	TR News	 NEWS #SequoiaPGP #Confidentiality #OpenPGP Card Support In Sequoia https://sequoia-pgp.org/blog/2021/12/20/202112-openpgp-card-ci/
[04:43]	TR Bot	 Blog - OpenPGP card support in Sequoia
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[04:49]	DaemonFC	First, let's kill all the lawyers...
[04:49]	DaemonFC	:)
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[04:57]	schestowitz-TR2	DaemonFC: writing about cars again
[04:57]	schestowitz-TR2	part 3
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[05:00]	DaemonFC	I wonder who the armorer was for Highlander the series.
[05:01]	DaemonFC	Every single member of that SWAT team is holding their rifle wrong.
[05:01]	MinceR	:)
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[05:08]	TR News	 NEWS #NYOB #CivilRights Complaint filed: Help! My recruiter is an algorithm! https://noyb.eu/en/complaint-filed-help-my-recruiter-algorithm
[05:08]	TR Bot	 Complaint filed: Help! My recruiter is an algorithm!
[05:17]	TR News	 NEWS #CBC #CivilRights #Toronto #police used #Clearview AI facial recognition software in 84 investigations https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-police-report-clearview-ai-1.6295295
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[05:17]	TR Bot	 Toronto police used Clearview AI facial recognition software in 84 investigations | CBC News
[05:20]	TR News	 NEWS #CitizenLab #CivilRights Submission to the #Toronto #Police Services Boards Use of New HEY HI Technologies Policy https://citizenlab.ca/2021/12/submission-to-the-toronto-police-services-boards-use-of-new-artificial-intelligence-technologies-policy/
[05:20]	TR Bot	 Submission to the Toronto Police Services Boards Use of New Artificial Intelligence Technologies Policy - The Citizen Lab
[05:20]	TR News	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #CivilRights #wikileaks Explained: Who Is Julian #Assange And What Is The Case Against Him https://www.indiatimes.com/explainers/news/julian-assange-wikileaks-founder-case-557448.html
[05:20]	TR Bot	 Explained: Who Is Julian Assange And What Is The Case Against Him
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[05:42]	TR News	 NEWS #DrewDeVault #Copyrights Sustainable creativity in a world without copyright https://drewdevault.com/2021/12/23/Sustainable-creativity-post-copyright.html
[05:42]	TR Bot	 Sustainable creativity in a world without copyright
[05:56]	TR News	The #Car Drives You - Part III - The Very Concept of a Car Has Changed Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/ #Techrights #DRM #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/
[05:56]	TR Bot	 The Car Drives You Part III The Very Concept of a Car Has Changed | Techrights
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[08:32]	TR News	 NEWS #DontExtraditeAssange #wikileaks #assange Stella Moris statement on Julian Assanges Supreme Court appeal https://dontextraditeassange.com/press-release/stella-moris-statement-on-julian-assanges-supreme-court-appeal/
[08:32]	TR Bot	 Stella Moris statement on Julian Assanges Supreme Court appeal - Don't Extradite Assange
[08:33]	TR News	Manufacturing samples of Xassette-Asterisk open-source hardware board Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159496 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Manufacturing samples of Xassette-Asterisk open-source hardware board | Tux Machines
[08:33]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159497 #Linux #TuxMachines
[08:33]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[08:34]	TR News	 #IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 23, 2021 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/irc-log-231221/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/irc-log-231221/
[08:34]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, December 23, 2021 | Techrights
[08:35]	TR News	 NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #microsoft Russia fines GitHub for failing to delete Navalnys Smart Vote endorsements https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/12/23/russia-fines-github-for-failing-to-delete-navalny-s-smart-vote-endorsements
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[08:35]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[08:37]	TR News	 NEWS #Techdirt Another Report Shows U.S. 5G Isn't Living Up To The Hype https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211222/07165348163/another-report-shows-us-5g-isnt-living-up-to-hype.shtml
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[08:37]	TR Bot	Report Shows U.S. 5G Isn't Living Up To The Hype | Techdirt
[08:39]	TR News	 NEWS #CommonDreams #patent #patents #monopolies WHO Chief Says Vaccine Inequity Is 'Giving the Virus More Opportunity to Spread and Mutate' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/23/who-chief-says-vaccine-inequity-giving-virus-more-opportunity-spread-and-mutate WHO took bribes from the self-serving patent pusher, #billgates
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[08:39]	TR Bot	 WHO Chief Says Vaccine Inequity Is 'Giving the Virus More Opportunity to Spread and Mutate'
[08:40]	TR News	 NEWS #Techdirt #Tanzania Tanzania's Abuse Of US #Copyright Law To Silence Critics On Twitter Should Be A Warning For Regulators Looking To Mess With Content Moderation https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211209/22513048090/tanzanias-abuse-us-copyright-law-to-silence-critics-twitter-should-be-warning-regulators-looking-to-mess-with-content-moderation.shtml
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[08:40]	TR Bot	Abuse Of US Copyright Law To Silence Critics On Twitter Should Be A Warning For Regulators Looking To Mess With Content Moderation | Techdirt
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[08:50]	TR News	 NEWS #DemocracyNow No One Is Safe Until Everyone Is Safe: #Oxfam on Vaccine Equity & Taking On #Moderna https://www.democracynow.org/2021/12/23/oxfam_moderna_vaccine_patent_rights #patent #patents
[08:50]	TR Bot	 No One Is Safe Until Everyone Is Safe: Oxfam on Vaccine Equity & Taking On Moderna | Democracy Now!
[08:53]	TR News	The debate or the conversation about what it means to be car owners relates to issues discussed since the 1980s in the context of software (or code-sharing/code-altering practices) Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/ #Techrights #freesw #toyota #drm | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/on-car-owners/
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[08:59]	TR News	#fedra magazine is shilling #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware on #xmas eve https://fedoramagazine.org/how-to-publish-your-content-using-github-pages-and-jekyll/
[08:59]	TR Bot	 How to publish your content using GitHub Pages and Jekyll - Fedora Magazine
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[09:00]	TR News	#Games: Polychromatic, Controllers, and Ogre 2.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159498 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:00]	TR Bot	 Games: Polychromatic, Controllers, and Ogre 2.3 | Tux Machines
[09:02]	TR News	"The lights are sequenced to music using Falcon Player running on a #BeagleBone Black with the Kulp Lights F8-B Cape and a Pixel2AC board. The sequence was programmed using xLights on openSUSE Tumbleweed." https://cubiclenate.com/2021/12/24/christmas-light-display-2021/
[09:02]	TR Bot	Light Display 2021 CubicleNate's Techpad
[09:02]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159499 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:02]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[09:04]	psydroid2	Carmaggedon has never been as relevant as it seems to be now
[09:04]	psydroid2	What's worse, killing lawyers or killing lawyers?
[09:05]	schestowitz-TR2	lawyers kkilling?
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[09:06]	psydroid2	yeah, that was the ambiguity I was alluding to
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR2	they sure make a killing
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR2	charging so much
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR2	Mr. GAFAM would know
[09:06]	schestowitz-TR2	he paid them a lot of money for nothing
[09:07]	TR News	#Databases: Firebird, PostgreSQL, and #SQLite Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159500 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:07]	TR Bot	 Databases: Firebird, PostgreSQL, and SQLite | Tux Machines
[09:08]	psydroid2	there have been some stories of lawyers here who wanted to kill people by running their cars into them
[09:09]	schestowitz-TR2	you are in NL
[09:09]	schestowitz-TR2	where Team UPC's
[09:09]	schestowitz-TR2	Por
[09:09]	schestowitz-TR2	has been promoting crimes
[09:09]	schestowitz-TR2	and is still shamelessly lying this week
[09:10]	schestowitz-TR2	they make their occupation look like a crime
[09:12]	psydroid2	crime pays off in a big way
[09:12]	schestowitz-TR2	sadly
[09:13]	TR News	Release Notes for #siduction 2021.3.0 Wintersky Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159501 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #debian
[09:13]	TR Bot	 Release Notes for siduction 2021.3.0 Wintersky | Tux Machines
[09:18]	TR News	 NEWS #Techdirt Another #Illinois Appeals Court Handles Compelled Password Production, Says There's No #FifthAmendment Issue Here https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211127/16284248014/another-illinois-appeals-court-handles-compelled-password-production-says-theres-no-fifth-amendment-issue-here.shtml
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[09:18]	TR Bot	Illinois Appeals Court Handles Compelled Password Production, Says There's No Fifth Amendment Issue Here | Techdirt
[09:19]	TR News	 NEWS #TruthOut #patent #monopolies #patents Oxfam Takes On #Moderna in Fight for Vaccine Equity https://truthout.org/video/oxfam-takes-on-moderna-in-fight-for-vaccine-equity/
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[09:19]	TR Bot	 Oxfam Takes On Moderna in Fight for Vaccine Equity
[09:20]	TR News	#OpenHardware /Modding: Newt, #BeagleBone Black, and Raspberry Pi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159502 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: Newt, BeagleBone Black, and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
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[09:38]	TR News	10 reasons to love Linux in 2021 | https://opensource.com/article/21/12/reasons-love-linux #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux
[09:38]	TR Bot	reasons to love Linux in 2021 | Opensource.com
[09:39]	TR News	#redhat on #ibm on "emotional intelligence (EQ)"??? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/12/leadership-how-show-hybrid-teams-empathy
[09:39]	TR Bot	 Leadership: How to show empathy to hybrid work teams | The Enterprisers Project
[09:39]	psydroid2	open source <3 linux
[09:39]	schestowitz-TR2	:-D
[09:45]	TR News	"I'm advocating for a free, open internet. When all the main browsers are captured by corporate interests, is it really free and open? Can't governments fund foundations that are fighting for public good?" https://indieweb.social/@obsolete29/107456557319016748
[09:45]	TR Bot	Harley : "I'm advocating for a free, open internet. When al" - Indieweb.Social
[09:47]	TR News	"Just reminded of what #Microsoft is willing to do to protect its #monopolies (in this case corrupting the entire global ISO process to protect its Office monopoly)" https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107487616811301776
[09:47]	TR Bot	 Dave Lane: "And yes, I also miss Groklaw..." - Mastodon - NZOSS
[09:48]	TR News	"I haven't read that for about 8 years... and I'd forgotten the details... yeah, very confronting and pretty devastating. She is a great figure in our open community." https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/107487536994505917 #groklaw
[09:48]	TR Bot	 Dave Lane: "Just reminded of what Microsoft is willing to do " - Mastodon - NZOSS
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[09:52]	TR News	#TikTok is accused of violating GPL with new livestreaming software https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/tiktok-obs-gpl-violation https://qoto.org/@lupyuen/107482557218000970 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159286#comment-32267
[09:52]	TR Bot	TikTok violates GPL with new broadcast studio app - Protocol The people, power and politics of tech
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Lup Yuen Lee : ""TikTok is accused of violating GPL with new live" - Qoto Mastodon
[09:52]	TR Bot	 TikTok accused of stealing from competitor for new livestreaming app | Tux Machines
[09:53]	TR News	"Is there any #debian developer out there interested in packaging the portable release of #gameoftrees?" https://bsd.network/@stsp/107481323406277970
[09:53]	TR Bot	 Stefan Sperling: "Is there any #debian developer out there interest" - BSD Network
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[09:54]	TR News	So-called 'Smart' Home... no longer your home, just a place for you within which to be spied on https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/107491812114885699
[09:54]	TR Bot	 Glyn Moody: "Open Source 'Matter' Hopes To Make Sense Of The F" - Mastodon
[09:55]	TR News	How an N.B. man's teen prank led to a 63-year exchange of Christmas cards https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/new-brunswick-prank-christmas-1.6294366
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[09:55]	TR Bot	 How an N.B. man's teen prank led to a 63-year exchange of Christmas cards | CBC News
[09:58]	TR News	Jaromil: "Today we finished the migration of core infrastructure servers at dyne.org including the ones running this mailinglist and serving #devuan developers with the video conference and crypto pad web applications." https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20211223.170207.6afcad6d.en.html #gnu #linux
[09:58]	TR Bot	 [devuan-dev] [OT] dyne.org server migration
● Dec 24
[10:01]	TR News	#Beebom posting anti-Linux spam for #microsoft on #xmas Eve
[10:03]	TR News	Best Wishes from TDF - The Document Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159485#comment-32268
[10:03]	TR Bot	 End of Year Posts | Tux Machines
[10:04]	TR News	Ring In The New Year With #DIY #Bagpipes | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/12/23/ring-in-the-new-year-with-diy-bagpipes/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/12/24/#latest
[10:04]	TR Bot	In The New Year With DIY Bagpipes | Hackaday
[10:04]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[10:09]	TR News	"If its always been your dream to tinker with a little fruit flys brain, you can do so yourself using the open source FlyBrainLab tool provided, along with the freely available data sources. " https://hackaday.com/2021/12/24/flybrainlab-google-earth-but-for-a-drosophila-flys-brain/
[10:09]	TR Bot	Google Earth But For A Drosophila Flys Brain | Hackaday
[10:09]	TR News	$35 Orange Pi 3 LTS SBC comes with 2GB RAM, 8GB flash, AW859A WiFi 5 and Bluetooth 5.0 module Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159503 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:09]	TR Bot	 $35 Orange Pi 3 LTS SBC comes with 2GB RAM, 8GB flash, AW859A WiFi 5 and Bluetooth 5.0 module | Tux Machines
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[10:24]	TR News	Links 24/12/2021: Sway 1.7 RC, #Systemd 250 Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/sway-1-7-rc/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/sway-1-7-rc/
[10:24]	TR Bot	 Links 24/12/2021: Sway 1.7 RC, Systemd 250 | Techrights
[10:25]	TR News	#Microsoft Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159504 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:25]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Leftovers | Tux Machines
[10:25]	TR News	#FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159505 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:25]	TR Bot	 Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[10:26]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159506 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:26]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[10:29]	TR News	openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2021/12/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2021-50-51/ #opensuse #suse #gnu #linux
[10:29]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
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[10:33]	TR News	We take action against Hack-for-Hire firm Belltrox #SaveOurPrivacy https://internetfreedom.in/meta-belltrox-hack-for-hire/ #internetfreedom #india #in #privacy
[10:33]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: internetfreedom.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://internetfreedom.in/meta-belltrox-hack-for-hire/
[10:33]	TR Bot	 We take action against Hack-for-Hire firm Belltrox #SaveOurPrivacy
[10:33]	TR News	#darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159507 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:33]	TR Bot	 darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 | Tux Machines
[10:37]	TR News	#ticker - terminal stock ticker Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159508 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:37]	TR Bot	 ticker - terminal stock ticker | Tux Machines
[10:41]	TR News	7 Linux Distros Released This Christmas Season Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159509 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:41]	TR Bot	 7 Linux Distros Released This Christmas Season | Tux Machines
[10:41]	TR News	9 Hot Free and Open Source Java Application Servers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159510 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:41]	TR Bot	 9 Hot Free and Open Source Java Application Servers | Tux Machines
[10:45]	TR News	#openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159511 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #suse
[10:45]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2021/50 & 51 | Tux Machines
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[11:32]	psydroid2	https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interface/2018/03/the-future-of-autocad.html
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[11:32]	TR Bot	 The future of AutoCAD - Through the Interface
[11:33]	psydroid2	so they've had a web version for years but never a Linux version
[11:39]	psydroid2	proprietary business models are so devious and user-hostile
[11:40]	psydroid2	someone moved the goalposts again with the Krita 5.0.0 announcement by claiming that people use plug-ins that are only available for Adobe trash
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[12:37]		*activelow is struggling
[12:37]	activelow	something is broken with "canadian cross" compilation
[12:37]	activelow	not important
[12:38]	activelow	the legacy gcc-4.7.4 succeeded, however it failed to compile Linux kernel, because linux requires non C90/99 extensions since kernel version 5.9
[12:39]	activelow	and then, i failed to downgrade linux kernel to 4.4LTS because hardware support and almost out-of-tree patches required which do not apply correctly
[12:39]	SomeH4x0r	are there GCC 4.7.4 maintained forks without shit?
[12:39]	activelow	not aware of any
[12:40]	activelow	the problem is linux kernel 5.10LTS, which fails to compile with gcc-4.7.4
[12:40]	activelow	and 5.10LTS is the kernel series which includes sufficient support for the rockchip ARM SBC i am using
[12:42]	activelow	anyway, for testing i decided to create a cross-compiler toolchain with gcc-6/7/8.x all of which trigger some bug in a "canadian-cross" compilation setup here
[12:43]	activelow	which is another surprise such bugs exist
[12:44]	activelow	at least, i got something to do...
[12:45]	activelow	instead of argueing about omicron and patented mirancle tincture injections
[12:49]	activelow	and, i want to downgrade to 32bit ARM only, because i am planning to replace GCC (and llvm/clang alike) with an alternative: such as tinycc and pcc as the only system compiler
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[12:50]	activelow	again, strange, although cortex-a53 and a-72 support 32bit ARM ISA, no official support exists for this with GNU/Linux and various aarch64 SBC
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[13:21]	TR News	#[Video] GNOME 42 Demo in Nightly GNOME OS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159512 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:21]	TR Bot	 [Video] GNOME 42 Demo in Nightly GNOME OS | Tux Machines
[13:22]	TR News	#Darktable 3.8 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Released as a Massive Update Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159513 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:22]	TR Bot	 Darktable 3.8 Open-Source RAW Image Editor Released as a Massive Update | Tux Machines
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[13:26]	TR News	"I feel that the majority of people say "forget!. We'll stay as we are" ;-)" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007730.html #geminispace #geminiprotocol
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Refering to links?
[13:30]	TR News	I know #coreboot is not about freedom -- which is what #libreboot exists for -- but hosting on #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware is a slap on the face to anyone who expected #security and decency. #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
[13:30]	TR Bot	 Delete Github - Techrights
[13:31]	TR News	Oh, WAIT. My bad. It looks like #coreboot uses #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware only as a mirror. TBH, I see no point to such mirrors as they help Microsoft #monopoly and other abuses.
[13:33]	TR News	Town very empty today; good for food shopping considering the plague that's raging and #tories want us to think isn't a big deal (as they've lost control of it)
[13:33]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.05 k/sec., IPFS upstream 101.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.37
[13:35]	TR News	People who say #covid19 isn't political are intentionally overlooking the fact that mitigation policies are decided by politicians and their oligarchic handlers. Moreover, their surrender to a #patent #cartel on PRE-paid #vaccines is totally unacceptable. Taxpayers shouldered the R&D costs.
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[13:35]	TR News	The amount of corporate profits made from vaccines should be zero. Yes, zero. #patents #patent #monopoly #grifting #privatisation
[13:37]	TR News	Today we saved over 150 pounds on the food bill. You only need to know where to go and when.
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[13:38]	TR News	Jussi Pakkanen: This year receive the gift of a free Meson manual https://nibblestew.blogspot.com/2021/12/this-year-receive-gift-of-free-meson.html #meson #programming #coding #freesw
[13:38]	TR Bot	 Nibble Stew: This year receive the gift of a free Meson manual
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[13:45]	TR News	Irving Wladawsky-Berger (the man who brought #gnu #linux to #ibm decades ago): New Ways of Understanding Human Behavior https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2021/12/new-ways-of-understanding-human-behavior.html #irvingwb
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[13:45]	TR Bot	 Irving Wladawsky-Berger: New Ways of Understanding Human Behavior
[13:50]	TR News	Krita 5.0 Is Out as a New Major Release With a Lot of Changes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159460#comment-32269
[13:50]	TR Bot	 Krita 5.0 Open-Source Digital Painting Software Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines
[13:52]	TR News	"he vaguely smelled of alcohol, maybe even piss (which is normal for old people) and didn't bother me at all. enter 4 (four!) security guys to escort him out. where's the social conscience of these people?" https://dt.iki.fi/forum-posts-collection
[13:52]	TR Bot	collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion | dt.iki.fi
[13:52]	TR News	#Taranis, a major release of Jami Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159514 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:52]	TR Bot	 Taranis, a major release of Jami | Tux Machines
[13:57]	TR News	#Debian -Based #siduction 2021.3 Distro Released with Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS, PipeWire Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159515 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:57]	TR Bot	 Debian-Based siduction 2021.3 Distro Released with Linux Kernel 5.15 LTS, PipeWire | Tux Machines
[13:58]	TR News	4 Tools / Extensions to Add Falling Snow Effect on Ubuntu 20.04 /21.10 Desktop Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159516 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[13:58]	TR Bot	 4 Tools / Extensions to Add Falling Snow Effect on Ubuntu 20.04 /21.10 Desktop | Tux Machines
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[14:00]	TR News	At long last I've managed to entirely scrub off the #windows logo from my keyboard, which has nothing to do with #microsoft except this worthless print
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[14:22]	TR News	Alexandre Olivas Open Letter on #RichardStallman Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Alexandre Olivas Open Letter on Richard Stallman | Techrights
[14:32]	TR News	Darktable 3.8 Released with Huge Set of Changes, New Modules + More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159507#comment-32270
[14:32]	TR Bot	 darktable 3.8: Winter Release 2021 | Tux Machines
[14:34]	TR News	2021 #KDE Eco Sprint Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159517 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming
[14:34]	TR Bot	 2021 KDE Eco Sprint | Tux Machines
[14:35]	TR News	#perl Monthly Report - November http://blogs.perl.org/users/mohammad_s_anwar/2021/12/monthly-report---november-3.html #programming
[14:35]	TR Bot	Report - November | Mohammad S Anwar [blogs.perl.org]
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[14:59]	TR News	Becky Sterns machine brings the NYC hot dog experience to you | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/12/24/becky-sterns-machine-brings-the-nyc-hot-dog-experience-anywhere/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
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[14:59]	TR Bot	 Becky Stern's machine brings the NYC hot dog experience to you | Arduino Blog
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[15:00]	TR News	FreeAptitude - Playing with DBus and KDE applications (Part 2) https://freeaptitude.altervista.org/articles/playing-with-dbus-and-kde-applications-part-2.html #freeaptitude #kde #freesw
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[15:00]	TR Bot	 FreeAptitude - Playing with DBus and KDE applications (Part 2)
[15:10]	TR News	#MedicLog : The personal health logger that everyone needs https://medevel.com/mediclog/ "The application and source code is licensed under GPL-3.0 License."
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[15:10]	TR Bot	 MedicLog: The personal health logger that everyone needs
[15:11]	TR News	Jrnl: Create your personal journals with style https://medevel.com/jrnl/ "Jrnl is released as free and open-source software under GPL-3.0 License."
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[15:11]	TR Bot	 Jrnl: Create your personal journals with style
[15:13]	TR News	The person whom many consider to be the heir of #RMS responds to common accusations, which are sadly not based on actual facts Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/lxo-rms/
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[15:24]	TR News	The Most Excellent Non- #Programming Books for Coders https://medevel.com/the-most-excellent-non-programming-books-for-coders/
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[15:24]	TR Bot	 The Most Excellent Non-Programming Books for Coders
[15:26]	TR News	Top 20 free, Open-source Icon packs for your project https://medevel.com/os-20-icon-fonts/ #sharing
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[15:48]	TR News	"This means that your Debian 11 system will regularly fail to boot." https://the-blogger-spotter.blogspot.com/2021/11/debian-11-is-broken.html?m=1 "P.S.: can you imagine a Microsoft Windows person who would find it conceivable that the system drive, aka (C:), would change its drive letter on each boot? Debian can!"
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[15:50]	XRevan86	> Debian 11 system will regularly fail to boot.
[15:50]	XRevan86	Um never rely on /dev/sd* names.
[15:51]	XRevan86	> THIS IS A HUMONGOUS PROBLEM
[15:51]	XRevan86	More like not really a problem at all.
[15:53]	XRevan86	Especially on Debian where /etc/fstab has a friendly description at the start of the file explaining how to add new mount points properly.
[15:55]	kingoffrance	yeah, freebsd you just use glabel or probably something newer. cant imagine this has been a problem for a decade, 2 decades...
[15:56]	XRevan86	On Linux one should use either LABEL, UUID or PARTUUID
[15:57]	MinceR	or use an encrypted volume and /dev/mapper/something
[15:59]	XRevan86	And just like the description in /etc/fstab on Debian says, just use blkid to determine all these values.
● Dec 24
[16:01]	XRevan86	It's not a problem that a novice would have, because the automatic tools use PARTUUID= or UUID=, it's not a problem that an experienced user would have, because they wouldn't use the unreliable direct device names.
[16:01]	kingoffrance	my guess is any "server" OS that did scsi had some solution for this
[16:02]	XRevan86	Deterministic or not, device names were literally never reliable. Add a new drive and suddenly the order changes.
[16:09]	activelow	was PTUUID the same as PARTUUID?
[16:10]	activelow	since PTUUID had a huge benefit for me... linux kernel supports it without any initrd containing additional utilities to identify disks
[16:10]	XRevan86	activelow: It's the UUID of the whole partition table.
[16:10]	XRevan86	activelow: How is it in any way useful?
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[16:10]	activelow	XRevan86: because, since i tagged the legacy MBR table with a PTUUID i can boot my system without any initrd
[16:11]	XRevan86	activelow: I did look for any signs of initramfs in Linux regarding GPT support, and no, I don't see it.
[16:11]	XRevan86	activelow: But on the same drive PTUUID is going to be the same for every partition.
[16:11]	activelow	XRevan86: this isn't the question
[16:11]	activelow	you're confusing something
[16:12]	activelow	linux kernel itself cannot identify various disks/uuids without an initrd containing additional tools
[16:12]	XRevan86	activelow: Sure it can, it's not that hard.
[16:13]	activelow	so, the regular boot flow is linux-kernel->root=initrd->mount /realroot and exec /sbin/init
[16:13]	XRevan86	activelow: Linux accepts UUIDs as root=
[16:13]	activelow	what i can do instead is linux-kernel->root=readonly.squashfs
[16:13]	activelow	XRevan86: yes, but it is the initrd subsystem which identifies disks
[16:14]	activelow	and if you wanted to remove initrd entirely, for one or another reason, then PTUUID is helpful with it
[16:14]	XRevan86	activelow: We've been through this, I found the code that identifies the partitions in Linux itself.
[16:14]	activelow	because then linux kernel itsel can directly mount root=root.squashfs identified by a PTUUID for example, without any initrd
[16:15]	activelow	it's confusing, somehow
[16:15]	XRevan86	Meanwhile PTUUID is the UUID of whole partition table, it's not going to point to the rootfs.
[16:16]	activelow	depends, with x86(64) i jump to isolinux which does the rest, with aarch64 it is uboot and linux kernel
[16:16]	activelow	and with either now, i can directly boot readonly.squashfs without any initrd in between, which is nice
[16:16]	activelow	no more GRUB, no more initrd, no more UEFI, none of this
[16:17]	XRevan86	https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/do_mounts.c#n88 https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/block/partitions/efi.c
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[16:17]	TR Bot	 efi.c partitions block - kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree
[16:17]	XRevan86	This is what I found the last time.
[16:17]	XRevan86	Just some code to read the GPT partitioning, no external tools, no initramfs.
[16:19]	activelow	for x86/64 isolinux i do this: ... isohybrid -type 112 -id 0x88888888 (which is the PTUID) for boot.iso
[16:19]	activelow	and the boot command line is this: ... append root=PARTUUID=88888888-01 rootwait init=/etc/rc.init
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[16:20]	activelow	without any initrd required anymore
[16:21]	psydroid4	schestowitz-TR2, Debian 11 is broken, but fortunately Windows has been permanently fixed
[16:22]	schestowitz-TR2	ian is dead
[16:23]	schestowitz-TR2	debian is not
[16:23]	schestowitz-TR2	devuan is not
[16:23]	schestowitz-TR2	[09:58] <techrights-news> Jaromil: "Today we finished the migration of core infrastructure servers at dyne.org including the ones running this mailinglist and serving #devuan developers with the video conference and crypto pad web applications." https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20211223.170207.6afcad6d.en.html #gnu #linux
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[16:26]	MinceR	debian is dead
[16:26]	activelow	i had rewritten a rc.init script too, and patched kernel to prevent overriding init= parameter; this prevents intercepting the boot process
[16:26]	MinceR	it's no longer free, it's no longer universal, it's no longer GNU/Linux and it's no longer stable
[16:26]	activelow	to enforce, /bin/login is *never* circuumvented
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR2	MinceR: no, it is alive here
[16:26]	schestowitz-TR2	and many other machines, too
[16:26]	MinceR	and for the people who actually want it, it's "fragmentation", therefore heresy
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[16:27]	schestowitz-TR2	debian 10 is stable
[16:27]	MinceR	sure it is
[16:27]	schestowitz-TR2	only issues I hear of are from early adopters of 11
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[16:27]	SomeH4xx	nothing is truly stable
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[16:27]	MinceR	until you get welcomed to the emergency prompt
[16:27]	activelow	for root.squashfs i implemented support for custom compression (patched kernel, patched squashfs-tools); and only kernel knows how to extract it's root-filesystem
[16:28]	MinceR	or you get "a stop job is running" forever on shutdown
[16:28]	activelow	which isn't encryption, however, i consider it alot of "fun"
[16:28]	MinceR	or you do an unattended upgrade via cron, which kills cron, which kills the session, which kills the upgrade and fucks up your system
[16:29]	schestowitz-TR2	sounds like systemd bugs or just systemd, which is a bug
[16:29]	activelow	the rc.init is 80 lines shell script only, and supports mounting LUKSHOME if available, and too LUKSROOT for a persistence overlayfs
[16:29]	MinceR	deadian comes with systemd
[16:29]		*psydroid4 wonders if OpenBSD supports the WiFi on this laptop
[16:30]	MinceR	and if you try to disinfect your system of it, deadian "developers" do everything they can to sabotage your system
[16:31]	activelow	the worst "innovation" recently was Debian LTS kernel v5.10 requires yet another gcc-version update
[16:32]	activelow	until kernel v5.7 the system could be compiled without a c++ compiler (gcc-4.7.4); since Debian(11?) and Kernel v5.10 a c++ compiler (meaning a compiler written in c++ itself) is required
[16:32]	XRevan86	priorities
[16:33]	XRevan86	That kernel update is the worst thing that happened to the Debian userbase.
[16:33]	activelow	not the worst, the most recent fundemental change to what debian was
[16:34]	activelow	UEFI, Grub and many other things, are, not to my liking
[16:34]	XRevan86	And C++, I got the idea.
[16:35]	activelow	not c++ itself, the fact c++ is mandatory now for Kernel and Compiler itself, this is what i reject
[16:35]	activelow	until kernel v5.7/gcc-4.7.4 a bootable GNU/Linux distro could be created without any c++ involved at all; this changed recently
[16:36]	activelow	iirc, Torvalds said kernel 5.8 was "biggest release" ever or something... don't remember exactly, why he said it
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[16:52]	TR News	Links 24/12/2021: #Darktable 3.8 and Jami &#8220;Taranis&#8221; Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/jami-taranis/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/jami-taranis/
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[17:31]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/21121635
[17:31]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (6098988)
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[18:06]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/799835.mp4
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[18:45]	MinceR	(long) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zsvh4iATps
[18:45]	TR Bot	Japan's Beautiful Post Town | Exploring Magomejuku - YouTube
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[19:03]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR2, THe carjacking of Illinois Senate Majority Leader Kimberly Lightford got better.
[19:03]	DaemonFC	Her husband is a CCW holder and fired shots at the carjacker while she keeps telling us we need gun bans.
[19:04]	DaemonFC	Typical Democrat.
[19:22]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I hit a bug in Fallout 4 a while back while cleaning out that vault full of gangsters.
[19:23]	DaemonFC	The guy gives you an option to be gone by the time he counts to 10 or they open fire on you, but the button to open the vault wouldn't work until they were all dead.
[19:23]	DaemonFC	So I went back to a save and tried a couple times, and then gave up and targeted them all with a bunch of grenades before the dialog.
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[20:06]	Sweety	hi, i have one question, which os is the best?
[20:06]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[20:07]	SomeH4x0r	I invited Sweety here because they thought GNU/Linux is the best, but I told that corporations are attacking it
[20:09]	SomeH4x0r	so I said BSD variants *might* be good, but I told them to join here and ask to be sure
[20:13]	activelow	best for what?
[20:15]	SomeH4x0r	daily usage on PC, I guess?
[20:15]		*SomeH4x0r waits for Sweety's definition of such usage
[20:15]	Sweety	not at all, i want to learn programming
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[20:30]	schestowitz__[TR]	for that, maybe the OS isn't the most important bit
[20:31]	schestowitz__[TR]	unless you use low-level languages
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[20:31]	schestowitz__[TR]	which language?
[20:33]	Sweety	python
[20:34]	Sweety	is it good langue?
[20:34]	Sweety	language*
[20:37]	MinceR	https://abstrusegoose.com/151
[20:37]	TR Bot	 Abstruse Goose | I Don't Get It
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[20:40]	activelow	a raspberry pi offers many options, with gnu/linux and some other *BSD; and it isn't expensive
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[20:44]	SomeH4x0r	Sweety: define "good" though. It is good in that it is can be ported anywhere where Python implementation is available, and afaik it should be faster than Java. However, languages like C are ported to way more platforms.
[20:45]	SomeH4x0r	for "smartphone" development, you need to use different languages; also different languages for "webapp" stuff (though we don't like both of these things here, I assume)
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[20:48]	Sweety	well, i want to learn game programming
[20:48]	SomeH4x0r	games differ much
[20:49]	SomeH4x0r	from well-known text games like tic-tac-toe to "AAA" ones
[20:49]	Sweety	i want to try with text games
[20:50]	activelow	a totally crazy idea, although it isn't daily use, BASIC programming was rather common in the 1980s
[20:50]	activelow	with z80, or mos6502 systems
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[20:50]	activelow	if i could start again, i would begin with this, and rodney zak "programming z80"
[20:51]	activelow	it isn't expensive either
[20:51]	activelow	and should cover, well, the basics to rely upon
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[20:52]	Sweety	ok, thank you for help
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[20:58]	SomeH4x0r	I'd want to learn assembly either, but for other reason
[20:59]	SomeH4x0r	I sometimes encounter software with DRM, probably not much complex, and these programs are not widespread
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[20:59]	SomeH4x0r	so I want to be able to crack them
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[21:00]		*psydroid2 has been reading a book on 64-bit ARM assembly for the past few days
[21:01]	SomeH4x0r	though most of them are for Windows, but developers start forgetting about XP, and Vista 7 requires quite a lot disk space. Let it use 20 GB on a virtual machine, and after installing an update pack, it turned out it is not enough.
[21:03]	activelow	psydroid2: why?
[21:03]	SomeH4x0r	and I have to use VirtualBox 6.0 because the host (kind of dedicated computer though) does not support hardware virtualization
[21:04]	activelow	it could be preferrable, to begin with something lower-level than asm: digital circuit design and boolean algebra... which is fundemental for programming
[21:05]	psydroid2	activelow, because I already know it, but I want to learn more about floating point, NEON SIMD and SVE2 vector programming
[21:06]	activelow	it could be preferrable, to begin with something lower-level than asm: digital circuit design and boolean algebra... which is fundemental for programming
[21:06]	activelow	and, some maths
[21:08]	activelow	SIMD in essence is mostly "instruction level parallelization"; an operation is executed in parallel on multiple registers, to speed-up processing
[21:09]	activelow	FPU is slightly more complicated, in particular how it is implemented in hardware (mantisse, base, exponent, rounding error minimalization)
[21:09]	activelow	ironically, the NEON FPU isn't standards compliant...
[21:10]	psydroid2	I need to (re)read another book on digital system design during these holidays for an exam at the end of next month, but I wanted to get this done before that
[21:10]	activelow	psydroid2: doesn't this advanced vendor magic distract from the basics required to pass an exam?
[21:12]	activelow	gladly, i passed the digital circuitry exam, 20 years ago... however since then no interest in this anymore or anyone willing to subsidize this
[21:12]	activelow	maths are very important
[21:12]	psydroid2	activelow, they are different things (one for uni, one for myself) and no, I want to learn more especially about vector programming
[21:13]	activelow	ok, if you're not worried to struggle with the exam due to distraction, then it's ok. i'm only concerned, you'll not loose focus on the important topics
[21:16]	psydroid2	I only have the holiday seasons in winter and in summer to do anything other than coursework
[21:17]	psydroid2	and I only have a few chapters left to read, so I'm actually a bit ahead as I've already read half the book since Wednesday
[21:18]	activelow	i'm not good at multi-tasking, and was fighting for almost three weeks now to repair a cross-compiler, which hasn't finished yet :(
[21:18]	activelow	to downgrade from aarch64 to aarch32, by coincidence
[21:19]	activelow	not important
[21:20]	psydroid2	this same author wrote a book about 32-bit ARM assembly several years ago, but I'll save that for after my exams
[21:28]	activelow	i remember i brief lecture about float point arithmetics, which i think explains why FPU processing can be very slow
[21:28]	activelow	almost trivial addition/subtraction etc, can cause severe rounding errors (due to the floating point nature)
[21:29]	activelow	that's why, small numbers must be added first, to accumulate to a higher binary/decimal position
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[21:30]	activelow	otherwise, due to the "floating point", their results could be rounded away, when the colon position is shifted 
[21:31]	activelow	and on hardware level, various precision requirements, may or may not introduce many additional clock cycles required
[21:31]	MinceR	https://abstrusegoose.com/183
[21:31]	TR Bot	 Abstruse Goose | Illusion
[21:32]	activelow	that's why, for NEON FPU to be fast, the designers might have skipped the strict IEEE FPU requirements, which, i don't know, is somehow cheating
[21:33]	activelow	intel too cheated, to increase processing speed, with their spectre/meltdown weaknesses, when altering the execution flow, and skipping various permission tests
[21:33]	activelow	i don't trust any of this
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[21:34]	activelow	and, it is very annoying, to create a functional cross-compiler, because different FPU implementations for ARM are not compatible and cannot be linked against each other
[21:35]	psydroid2	I don't know to what extent things have been fixed with SVE2, as that's what I'm planning to use for new chips that are just starting to be shipped
[21:35]	activelow	ARM isn't "RISC" anymore either
[21:35]	MinceR	how so?
[21:37]	activelow	RISC?
[21:37]	XRevan86	MinceR: It's instruction set is not reduced.
[21:37]	MinceR	that's not really how RISC works
[21:38]	activelow	almost a dozen FPU and (incompatible) ISA variants alone, can't be...; the later a72 intorduced out-of-order execution pipeline with a complicated instruction decoder, which isn't paritcularly RISC
[21:38]	MinceR	it's a particular kind of reduction and a particular theory of what instructions should be in there
[21:38]	activelow	not to mention the dozens of ERRATA to work-around in linux kernel
[21:38]	MinceR	afaik it's still a load-store architecture and still uses the rrr instruction format
[21:38]	MinceR	also, they seem to be moving off the Thumb and Jazelle instruction sets
[21:39]	psydroid2	most new cores don't support 32-bit execution modes anymore
[21:41]	activelow	don't think so, at least a53 and a72 support both aarch64 and aarch32 instructions; it is linux kernel which doesn't recognise this, which i try to verify next if i can boot  rk3328 and rk3399 SBC as aarch32 system
[21:42]	psydroid2	I'm talking about A710, X2 etc.
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[21:43]	activelow	ok. i am not planning to follow along any aarch64 system upgrade anymore; the track record of errata and variants is horrible
[21:44]	activelow	and many ARM SBC require a distinct firmware compiled... instead of for example compiling some armv6 binaries and then use this as a baseline for almost all available ARM systems
[21:44]	psydroid2	A710 still supports it, X2 not anymore
[21:45]	activelow	raspberry Pi 1 was an armv6; currently i chose armv7-hardfloat-musleeabihf with neon-vfp4, which should cover most aarch32 and aarch64 systems (raspberry/broadcom except rpi1, most alwinner and rockchip etc)
[21:46]	activelow	another reason, to dump ARM, was seeing the mainline integretation status of almost 100 patches for some rockchip required
[21:47]	activelow	kernel v4.4LTS (which is designated as the first "super long term"), not at least for this the patches did apply correctly, although armbian maintains them, and the choas is scattered across various different vendor repositories on github
[21:48]	psydroid2	I only have ARMv8-A hardware other than an old "smartphone" that has 32-bit cores, so I haven't really looked into 32-bit software so far
[21:49]	activelow	my advice: don't waste your time with it
[21:49]	psydroid2	it looks like a mess with the various ISAs, though
[21:50]	activelow	the only reason i continue is this: gcc-4.7.4 may be the last GNU compiler i would accept, and kernel 4.4 the last kernel version; and with those at least another 10 years may be feasible, to keep GNU/Linux without any major update anymore
[21:51]	activelow	i have no hope for RISC-V either, tbh. my opinion.
[21:51]	psydroid2	there are other ISAs
[21:52]	activelow	and, if at least i can keep a gentoo... to create cross-compilers as i want to ...
[21:52]	activelow	the 32bit downgrade is required, because gcc-4.7.4 doesn't support aarch64
[21:54]	psydroid2	don't any of the other compilers support 64-bit architectures?
[21:54]	activelow	furthermore, aarch64 has little benefits, because most ARM have 4GiB RAM max.
[21:54]	activelow	situation is this: kernel versions newer than v5.7 do not compile without a c++ compiler anymore
[21:55]	activelow	linux kernel now requires at least gcc-4.8 or llvm/clang, which are both written in c++
[21:56]	activelow	although kernel isn't written in C++, the base system now requires the presence of such a compiler...
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[21:56]	activelow	which is a similar issue, as Rust in linux kernel... it doesn't belong there
[21:57]	activelow	furthermore, if at all this is possible without a weeks of dirty hackjob: the desired compilers i wanted (tinycc or PCC) or not c++
[21:57]	activelow	so, keeping gcc-4.7.4 is somewhat crucial, i think
[21:59]	activelow	sadly, kernel v5.9 (which i'm at) or later do not compile with this anymore, earlier versions are broken with the rockchip aarch64, and patches didn't apply to kernel 4.4SLTS as they should (although armbian maintains them out-of-tree, not mainlined)
[21:59]	activelow	as said, i won't follow along with any ARM anymore, i have seen enough of it
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[22:00]	activelow	all i hope, is to keep a stable aarch32 system compiled with gcc-4.7.4 and then next see if PCC or TinyCC suffice as *only* system compiler, to fork away from what "GNU/Linux" mutated into
[22:01]	activelow	OpenBSD (and others), switched to Clang already (for architectures wich support it)
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[22:02]	activelow	anyway, with llvm/clang i am seeing another problem again: gentoo/crossdev are the most powerful toolset to create and maintain cross-compilers, and llvm/clang isn't supported by it
[22:03]	activelow	furthermore, llvm/clang are written in: c++ which is another reason to refrain
[22:03]	activelow	conclusion: kernel 4.4SLTS and gcc-4.7.4 with gentoo/crossdev are the last line of defense to remain somewhat independent from the recent trends of rustification
[22:04]	activelow	OpenBSD reported success with PCC, however, OpenBSD isn't as powerful with vendor-independent system integration such as gentoo/crossdev/catalyst/portage are
[22:05]	psydroid2	what about pcc? does it work for compiling modern sources?
[22:05]	activelow	it is C99 compliant, OpenBSD reported success year 2007
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[22:06]	activelow	i think this is very important, my opinion
[22:07]	activelow	Linux kernel reported success with version 2.6.x and TinyCC too, long time ago
[22:07]	activelow	however, this is almost irelevant, if the desired kernel version doesn't support, a voila: the desired hardware
[22:07]	activelow	even if, kernel 2.6 supported aarch32 ISA, the particular SBC isn't supported
[22:08]	activelow	kernel 4.4LTS is important, because it is designated as "super long term", however, not at least with this some patches maintained by armbian did apply correctly anymore, for the rockchip ARM i am using currently... awesome
[22:08]	activelow	almost 100 patches, 90 failed
[22:09]	activelow	and, i didn't test yet, if the system could boot in 32bit mode, instead of 64bit
[22:10]	activelow	so, next, i'll try to compile and boot a 32bit kernel v5.9 which i am using currently and is know good as 64bit system
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[22:11]	activelow	already got a 32bit cross-compiler/toolchain for gcc-4.7.4; however i wanted to verify the last known good GCC, and the "canadian cross" of this one is buggy; "awesome" again
[22:12]	activelow	so, i can rule out potential errors one by one... and finally arrive at a *stable* system
[22:12]	activelow	because, the c++ dependency of gcc, the linux kernel decision to lock-into the particular version, isn't acceptable for me
[22:14]	activelow	tinycc might document, which vendor-specific GNU extensions are required, to compile linux kernel... don't know yet; i only want to get rid of GCC entirely
[22:14]	activelow	sadly, autotools and the portability chaos cannot be avoided; which is another such, i don't know, thank you RMS
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[22:19]		*psydroid2 gave up on all of this stuff a decade ago
[22:22]	psydroid2	if you look at what engineers at AMD are up to, the picture doesn't look much better
[22:22]	psydroid2	it's actually much worse
[22:22]	psydroid2	https://wccftech.com/amd-epyc-genoa-zen-4-server-cpus-and-sp5-lga-6096-server-platform-details-leaked/
[22:22]	TR Bot	 AMD SP5 Platform, EPYC Genoa CPUs & Zen 4 Core Detailed In Gigabyte's Leaked Documents
[22:22]	psydroid2	I think they've lost it
[22:23]	activelow	i've got an older Phenom2 here... not interested in any later x86 system, maybe intel Core2 quadcore with coreboot, not important, it remains powered down... electricity costs are too high
[22:25]	activelow	well, 96cores is alot, otherwise i am not interested in surveillance equipment monitoring me 24/7, no thanks AMD
[22:26]	psydroid2	I have x86 laptops which are more power-efficient, but my x86 desktops with chips such as my Phenom also stay powered down 99% of the time
[22:28]	psydroid2	AMD also seems mostly interested in Windows at this point, just like Intel
[22:29]	activelow	a raspberry pi with debian offers alot more than any MS IBM Wintel AMD system could
[22:36]	DaemonFC	More NPR shit about the aggravated armed robber who turned into a "motorist, shot by the police for no reason".
[22:36]	DaemonFC	Have to keep the race war going. They're sad that the mobs setting fire to Chicago died down all of a sudden. They miss them, you know. 
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[22:42]	MinceR	(cat) https://files.catbox.moe/eetmth.jpg
[22:42]	TR Bot	connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/eetmth.jpg )
[22:43]	DaemonFC	MinceR, It's dangerous to be a "motorist".
[22:43]	DaemonFC	Just out minding your own business with 17 open felony warrants.
[22:43]	DaemonFC	Anything can happen, I tells ya.
[22:43]	MinceR	it is dangerous to go alone. take this.
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[23:19]	DaemonFC	https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/12/the-biden-administration-rejected-an-october-proposal-for-free-rapid-tests-for-the-holidays
[23:19]	TR Bot	 The Biden Administration Rejected an October Proposal for Free Rapid Tests for the Holidays | Vanity Fair
[23:34]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 15.18 k/sec., IPFS upstream 45.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.22
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