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kingoffrance | yeah, i think he just panicked | Mar 25 00:00 |
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schestowitz__ | [23:07] <MinceR> https://ircz.de/p/19111350 | Mar 25 00:18 |
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schestowitz__ | so weird | Mar 25 00:18 |
schestowitz__ | who did this?! wHO? Tell me!! | Mar 25 00:18 |
tedbox | >> Can I interpret a no-reply (for 4 days now) as, "yes, as far as we know | Mar 25 00:35 |
tedbox | >> only Roy was targeted by this"? | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | >> | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | > Yes. | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | > | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | > -john | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | > | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | > -- John Sullivan | Mar 25 00:36 |
tedbox | wow | Mar 25 00:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Burger King is taking advantage of President One Man Mass Gathering's Coronavirus disaster to slash employee pay by 10%. https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-burger-king-biggest-franchisee-carrols-cuts-pay-2020-3 | Mar 25 01:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Coronavirus: Burger King's biggest franchisee, Carrols, cuts pay - Business Insider | Mar 25 01:02 | |
*tedbox used to work there | Mar 25 01:09 | |
tedbox | (aged 16-18 ish) | Mar 25 01:09 |
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roy_on_tedbox | DaemonFC[m]: these are the people doing all the actual work | Mar 25 01:14 |
roy_on_tedbox | I used to clean tables even, sometimes under them | Mar 25 01:14 |
roy_on_tedbox | toilets etc. | Mar 25 01:14 |
roy_on_tedbox | the people who run these companies don't do much but shake hands | Mar 25 01:15 |
roy_on_tedbox | oh wait | Mar 25 01:15 |
roy_on_tedbox | they don't even do THAT anymore | Mar 25 01:15 |
roy_on_tedbox | so they decided that as price goes UP people are paid TOO much | Mar 25 01:15 |
roy_on_tedbox | and so the salary will go down | Mar 25 01:15 |
roy_on_tedbox | some of them feed several kids | Mar 25 01:15 |
roy_on_tedbox | I used to work there after school | Mar 25 01:16 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: People are buying a lot of condoms. | Mar 25 02:39 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The news in the US isn't reporting on it, but condom shelves everywhere.....they're not completely empty, but they are being picked over. | Mar 25 02:40 |
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roy_on_tedbox | DaemonFC[m]: why condoms? | Mar 25 02:48 |
roy_on_tedbox | where's the logic? | Mar 25 02:48 |
roy_on_tedbox | Maybe people | Mar 25 02:48 |
roy_on_tedbox | 1) looking for casual sex | Mar 25 02:48 |
roy_on_tedbox | 2) trying not to get pregnant | Mar 25 02:48 |
roy_on_tedbox | 3) worried it would run out | Mar 25 02:48 |
roy_on_tedbox | use them as gloves!! ;-o | Mar 25 02:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | People have to stay at home. They don't want to risk having kids right now. | Mar 25 02:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Condoms make sense as a thing to grab a few boxes of. | Mar 25 02:49 |
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DaemonFC[m] | People are afraid and embarrassed about casual sex. I'm not entirely sure why. | Mar 25 02:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | other than abstinence there are other means | Mar 25 02:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | usually, the way I see it, it's about STDs | Mar 25 02:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | unless -- to put it crudely (sorry, take the kids who read this away!) -- they want to "finish inside" | Mar 25 02:50 |
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roy_on_tedbox | condoms are not important like food | Mar 25 02:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that's why I went on prep for a while when things weren't good with John and got on grindr again. | Mar 25 02:50 |
roy_on_tedbox | and clinics for abortions etc. aren't a covid19 risk | Mar 25 02:50 |
roy_on_tedbox | it 's not like they have beds there with patients on ventilators | Mar 25 02:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ohio ordered abortions to stop. | Mar 25 02:51 |
roy_on_tedbox | even Ireland stopped the ban | Mar 25 02:51 |
roy_on_tedbox | The US goes back in time | Mar 25 02:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | The clinics are staying open anyway and say we're essential and the courts are closed so you've made your decision and nobody is there to enforce it. | Mar 25 02:51 |
roy_on_tedbox | guns, babies and MAGA | Mar 25 02:51 |
roy_on_tedbox | ESR just posted another pro-gun BS | Mar 25 02:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | In my opinion, having a baby would be a bigger disaster for me than getting HIV. | Mar 25 02:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | If we're talking hypotheticals. | Mar 25 02:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's way more assistance to people with HIV than people who have kids. | Mar 25 02:52 |
roy_on_tedbox | ha | Mar 25 02:54 |
roy_on_tedbox | that says a lot about society | Mar 25 02:54 |
roy_on_tedbox | did you hear the conspiracy theories about gayness being promoted to curb overpopulation? | Mar 25 02:54 |
roy_on_tedbox | This never made sense to me | Mar 25 02:54 |
roy_on_tedbox | The super-rich want many workers | Mar 25 02:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | and many people competing for jobs | Mar 25 02:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | as that means lower salaries | Mar 25 02:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | also, more people = more sales | Mar 25 02:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | one in blue, one in pink | Mar 25 02:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | god forbid the boy and the girl will SHARE something rather than buy another! | Mar 25 02:55 |
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Ariadne | guns are great, ESR is not great | Mar 25 04:36 |
roy_on_tedbox | have you seen his new post? | Mar 25 04:42 |
*roy_on_tedbox did not even read it | Mar 25 04:43 | |
Ariadne | which one | Mar 25 04:44 |
Ariadne | there are two | Mar 25 04:44 |
Ariadne | one is a mostly reasonable list of suggestions for those looking to purchase a firearm for home defense | Mar 25 04:44 |
roy_on_tedbox | 3 hours ago he published something | Mar 25 04:44 |
Ariadne | the other is one suggesting that people not panic buy guns because COVID-19 | Mar 25 04:44 |
roy_on_tedbox | I wonder if Katrina 3.0 is imminent, in some states... | Mar 25 04:45 |
Ariadne | well | Mar 25 04:45 |
roy_on_tedbox | the country is divided | Mar 25 04:46 |
Ariadne | Wyoming is basically out of food in the stores | Mar 25 04:46 |
roy_on_tedbox | solidarity is less strong than 17 years ago | Mar 25 04:46 |
Ariadne | i came back to Oklahoma and got caught up in this bullshit lockdown | Mar 25 04:46 |
roy_on_tedbox | wow | Mar 25 04:46 |
roy_on_tedbox | here it is not enforced yet | Mar 25 04:46 |
Ariadne | and, the whole reason for coming back was to get my birth certificate | Mar 25 04:46 |
roy_on_tedbox | you can go out, but it's discouraged | Mar 25 04:46 |
Ariadne | which i couldn't even do | Mar 25 04:46 |
roy_on_tedbox | they'll say you were born in Kanya regardless :-) | Mar 25 04:47 |
Ariadne | > The only safety lock that reliably protects your child is the one you install in your child’s head by teaching him or her that a gun is a dangerous tool that should only be used with adult supervision. Explain the danger. Do not make your weapons taboo forbidden fruit or surround them with mystery; if your child is curious, take him or her to the range with you. | Mar 25 04:47 |
Ariadne | i actually agree with ESR on this | Mar 25 04:47 |
Ariadne | roy_on_tedbox: in general, i am more concerned about COVID-19 being used as cover for installation of more tyranny | Mar 25 04:48 |
Ariadne | we will get through the pandemic, mostly unscathed | Mar 25 04:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | you and me, yes | Mar 25 04:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | but... | Mar 25 04:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | the older people are rightly worried | Mar 25 04:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | they're in a risk group with this thing that has high fatality rates | Mar 25 04:49 |
Ariadne | i meant in the 10,000' birds eye view | Mar 25 04:49 |
roy_on_tedbox | and potential to overwhelm hospitals in less than a week | Mar 25 04:50 |
Ariadne | obviously, there is going to be fatalities | Mar 25 04:50 |
roy_on_tedbox | yes, it is used for tyrannical measures, for sure | Mar 25 04:50 |
Ariadne | it is a particularly aggressive strain of coronavirus | Mar 25 04:50 |
roy_on_tedbox | but... that it was hysteria for this purpose? Does not follow... | Mar 25 04:50 |
Ariadne | one interesting side effect though is that the vaccines being developed against COVID-19 work against coronaviruses in general | Mar 25 04:51 |
Ariadne | and many seasonal "colds" are caused by coronaviruses | Mar 25 04:51 |
Ariadne | so we're going to wind up knocking out some % of common cold | Mar 25 04:51 |
roy_on_tedbox | then the nukes will get us ;-) | Mar 25 04:52 |
Ariadne | roy_on_tedbox: hysteria by design? no. capitalization of the hysteria? absolutely | Mar 25 04:52 |
roy_on_tedbox | yeah | Mar 25 04:52 |
Ariadne | netanyahu has turned isreal into a defacto dictatorship | Mar 25 04:52 |
roy_on_tedbox | that does not mean the policy of lockdown is wrong | Mar 25 04:52 |
Ariadne | mmm | Mar 25 04:52 |
Ariadne | i don't know | Mar 25 04:52 |
roy_on_tedbox | Ariadne: he did that a decade ago | Mar 25 04:52 |
Ariadne | roy_on_tedbox: he did, but he has enhanced it in the name of COVID-19 | Mar 25 04:53 |
Ariadne | BoJo wants to do the same | Mar 25 04:53 |
roy_on_tedbox | the main difference is, the Crime Minister delays the prison sentence | Mar 25 04:53 |
Ariadne | EARN IT, anti-trans bills, etc | Mar 25 04:53 |
Ariadne | while all eyes are on the COVID-19 ball, some truly nasty stuff is being done | Mar 25 04:54 |
roy_on_tedbox | socialism for the rich... | Mar 25 04:54 |
Ariadne | the problem with lockdown is that it disproportionately affects the poor and middle-class people who are running small businesses | Mar 25 04:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | bailouts for nuclear power etc. | Mar 25 04:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | yeah, well... now I'm proven right to have chosen no kids | Mar 25 04:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | and people even start saying things like that | Mar 25 04:55 |
Ariadne | a small business in NYC or Boston that is forced to close is looking at $10-20k/month rent for their store | Mar 25 04:55 |
roy_on_tedbox | maybe the next "boomers" will be after WW2 | Mar 25 04:55 |
Ariadne | if they are shut down and not able to make money | Mar 25 04:56 |
roy_on_tedbox | or WW3, whichever | Mar 25 04:56 |
Ariadne | it's great that evictions are halted, but that's for now | Mar 25 04:56 |
roy_on_tedbox | Ariadne: the USSA will continues to provide Microsoft, Amazon Apple | Mar 25 04:56 |
Ariadne | in August or September when all of this is done, that business is going to have to cough up $40-50k rent they won't have | Mar 25 04:56 |
roy_on_tedbox | and you can express anger using Facebook "likes" | Mar 25 04:56 |
Ariadne | and thus they shut forever | Mar 25 04:56 |
Ariadne | so if there is lockdown | Mar 25 04:56 |
Ariadne | there needs to be a halt in bills too | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | The state will continue to provide "basic goods" with the Bezos head imprinted on each loaf | Mar 25 04:57 |
Ariadne | for individuals and small businesses | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | they need to reset the economy | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | but they won't | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | the super-rich never give away their wealth | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | it needs to be taken from them | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | they do scams and PR ploys to pretend they're the "common good | Mar 25 04:57 |
roy_on_tedbox | anyway, reset the economy | Mar 25 04:58 |
Ariadne | i mean, you get what i'm saying tho | Mar 25 04:58 |
roy_on_tedbox | it has become too rigged | Mar 25 04:58 |
Ariadne | that mom and pop biz on the corner | Mar 25 04:58 |
Ariadne | is toast | Mar 25 04:58 |
roy_on_tedbox | and the middle class now loses savings through inflation and devaluation of the currency | Mar 25 04:58 |
Ariadne | the people who own it | Mar 25 04:58 |
Ariadne | are toast | Mar 25 04:58 |
Ariadne | this is going to wipe out the middle class | Mar 25 04:58 |
roy_on_tedbox | it will fail, even if they kick the can another 2 years down the pavement | Mar 25 04:58 |
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roy_on_tedbox | Ariadne: not a new problem | Mar 25 04:59 |
Ariadne | it's not, but the shutdown is going to exacerbate it | Mar 25 04:59 |
roy_on_tedbox | my salary has remained the same for about a decade | Mar 25 04:59 |
roy_on_tedbox | despite inflation | Mar 25 04:59 |
Ariadne | it's funny | Mar 25 04:59 |
roy_on_tedbox | they don't want more people at the top, they just want loads of obedient workers | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | politicians are always like | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | "we support small business" | Mar 25 05:00 |
roy_on_tedbox | ha | Mar 25 05:00 |
roy_on_tedbox | Team UPC says that | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | but small businesses | Mar 25 05:00 |
roy_on_tedbox | SMEs are "the children" | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | are not going to survive this | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | if they have to shut down | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | to which they say | Mar 25 05:00 |
roy_on_tedbox | true | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | "get business continuity insurance" | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | which is hilarious | Mar 25 05:00 |
roy_on_tedbox | but people don't reject the monopolies, not enough anyway | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | because the insurance company | Mar 25 05:00 |
Ariadne | is going to just say "act of god, sorry" | Mar 25 05:01 |
roy_on_tedbox | or go bust | Mar 25 05:01 |
roy_on_tedbox | and then say, really sorry, can't pay | Mar 25 05:01 |
roy_on_tedbox | insurance is all fine and well | Mar 25 05:03 |
roy_on_tedbox | when times are good | Mar 25 05:03 |
roy_on_tedbox | but insurance is for when times are bad | Mar 25 05:03 |
roy_on_tedbox | and then, if insurance seems to be -ahem - insurance, then what's the point of it? | Mar 25 05:03 |
roy_on_tedbox | Like getting assurances and guarantees from companies that cease to exist before coverage terms expire/reach end | Mar 25 05:04 |
roy_on_tedbox | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/17538579 | Mar 25 05:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: How many airports will consider converting into shopping malls in years to come? They already have lots of parking spaces. Runaways as highways? | Mar 25 05:05 | |
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scientes | the russian word for eyes comes from greek | Mar 25 05:11 |
scientes | same as in the illiad, owl-eyed athene | Mar 25 05:12 |
oiaohm | Lot of airports cargo sections are still going strong. | Mar 25 05:30 |
scientes | oiaohm, have they gutted the interiors of the passenger planes yet? | Mar 25 05:31 |
scientes | so that they can continue to fly | Mar 25 05:31 |
oiaohm | Not yet you are talking a hell of a lot of work. | Mar 25 05:37 |
scientes | but the economy plane seats are really simple | Mar 25 05:38 |
scientes | they can probably just be removed and replaced simply | Mar 25 05:38 |
scientes | not the ones with the entertainment for long-haul, those are more difficult | Mar 25 05:38 |
scientes | the problem is that freight demands are down | Mar 25 05:39 |
scientes | all accross the board | Mar 25 05:39 |
scientes | and there are a bunch of big contiainer ships that are sitting idle | Mar 25 05:39 |
scientes | and planes burn shit-loads of dielsel | Mar 25 05:40 |
oiaohm | scientes: no the conversion is a lot more work than you are thinking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JeDrrOL5gk | Mar 25 05:42 |
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oiaohm | Big thing is making the big door that you can get the cargo in and out of the main area of the aircraft quickly. | Mar 25 05:42 |
oiaohm | scientes: Lot of cargo aircraft are made from retired passenger aircraft. | Mar 25 05:43 |
oiaohm | The process is not just as simple as remove the seats. Its remove the seats, seal up the old door for humans and cut a new door for cargo. | Mar 25 05:44 |
oiaohm | old door/old doors | Mar 25 05:44 |
oiaohm | Wonder if we well see after this mess airlines asking aircraft makers to make aircraft that are truly half way between cargo and passenger. It should be possible to make a aircraft with passenger doors and cargo doors. With the passenger seats on running frames for cargo. | Mar 25 05:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | When people just do something stupid in a comment on Facebook that adds nothing to the thread, I add them to my block list. Otherwise it's like the same 30-40 people who follow you around and try to pollute everything so that nobody can talk. | Mar 25 05:57 |
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scientes | oiaohm, why can't the humans just use a cargo door? | Mar 25 07:35 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], but then you see one-sided conversations | Mar 25 07:36 |
scientes | where it looks like someone is talking to themselves | Mar 25 07:36 |
MinceR | you block people who are talking to themselves :> | Mar 25 07:44 |
MinceR | the easier way is to just delete your fecesbook account | Mar 25 07:45 |
scientes | ^^^^ | Mar 25 07:47 |
scientes | that's me | Mar 25 07:47 |
oiaohm | scientes: cargo door lacks the inflating ramps and the like for emergency exist of humans. Cargo on fire you are meant to have insurance so you don't rescue it. | Mar 25 08:06 |
scientes | you mean you are suppose to leave all baggage behind? | Mar 25 08:07 |
scientes | oiaohm, what if Tom Hanks could use that volley ball? | Mar 25 08:07 |
oiaohm | scientes: better be highly valuable techically you exit aircraft in emergency with any major baggage lot of countries its 10000 dollar fine. | Mar 25 08:26 |
oiaohm | If you live. | Mar 25 08:27 |
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MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S32y9aYEzzo | Mar 25 08:45 |
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scientes | MinceR, there is huge amount wrong with that | Mar 25 09:18 |
scientes | e.g. aspartame is artificial sweatener, but fully digests | Mar 25 09:18 |
scientes | so i think they are only taking about sucralose | Mar 25 09:18 |
scientes | ugggh i can't watch that | Mar 25 09:20 |
scientes | cause it doesn't get to the data | Mar 25 09:20 |
scientes | its too "hold your hand"ish | Mar 25 09:20 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: Do you mean "oko" or "glaz"? Both descend from Proto-Slavic. | Mar 25 09:52 |
scientes | glaz | Mar 25 09:52 |
scientes | glaukopis is owl-eyed in the iliad | Mar 25 09:53 |
scientes | let me find the greek characters | Mar 25 09:53 |
scientes | i guess glau != glaz | Mar 25 09:53 |
XRevan86 | Initially "glaz" meant a ball or a rock. | Mar 25 09:53 |
scientes | ok, false cognate | Mar 25 09:53 |
XRevan86 | First it started being used for an eyeball, then just for an eye in general. | Mar 25 09:54 |
scientes | Athene being "glaukopis" or owl-eyed is repeated many times, as her epitat. | Mar 25 09:54 |
scientes | oh i'm stupid | Mar 25 09:55 |
scientes | glau is the owl part | Mar 25 09:55 |
scientes | because eye in greek is of course the same word as optics | Mar 25 09:55 |
scientes | so opis | Mar 25 09:56 |
XRevan86 | https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%B3%CE%BB%CE%B1%CF%85%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82#Ancient_Greek ? | Mar 25 09:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.m.wiktionary.org | γλαυκός - Wiktionary | Mar 25 09:56 | |
scientes | yeah thats it | Mar 25 09:58 |
scientes | > noting that the root only appears in Greek (Homer, Aeschylus) | Mar 25 09:58 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%83ek%CA%B7- "opsis" | Mar 25 10:00 |
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scientes | woah, these are coo; | Mar 25 10:01 |
scientes | Primitive Irish: ᚔᚅᚓᚊᚐᚌᚂᚐᚄ (ineqaglas) | Mar 25 10:02 |
scientes | well its also translated grey-eyed | Mar 25 10:03 |
scientes | i guess the owl one was just a embellishment | Mar 25 10:03 |
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scientes | my god | Mar 25 10:07 |
scientes | https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1785344/ | Mar 25 10:07 |
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scientes | imagine spending years studying nothing but eye color | Mar 25 10:07 |
scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bimbam.jpg | Mar 25 10:10 |
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scientes | (cat) | Mar 25 10:11 |
scientes | ahh i'm all confused | Mar 25 10:33 |
scientes | i was reading a shitty translation of the odyssey that uses all the roman names instead of the greek names | Mar 25 10:33 |
scientes | and i didn't realize that athene and minerva are the same damn goddess | Mar 25 10:33 |
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scientes | why the hell would someone translate Odysses but replace the greek names with the roman names? | Mar 25 12:42 |
scientes | what bizarroworld do we live in? | Mar 25 12:42 |
scientes | not only why the hell would you translate a name | Mar 25 12:42 |
scientes | but they are not even the same names, like pierre and peter | Mar 25 12:42 |
scientes | they are totally different | Mar 25 12:43 |
scientes | like aphrodite and venus | Mar 25 12:43 |
scientes | its already super confusing with three gods of the sea | Mar 25 12:43 |
scientes | peleus, thetis and poseidon | Mar 25 12:43 |
scientes | except that peleus is mortal | Mar 25 12:43 |
scientes | and then when you decide to translate poseidon to neptune | Mar 25 12:44 |
scientes | oh geeze.............. | Mar 25 12:44 |
scientes | monotheism is so much simpler | Mar 25 12:44 |
libertybox | buckwheat nation Here's what Russians are #panicbuying as #coronavirus spreads https://meduza.io/en/short/2020/03/24/the-buckwheat-nation | Mar 25 12:44 |
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scientes | why buckwheat? | Mar 25 12:45 |
scientes | and what idiot panic buys toilet paper? | Mar 25 12:45 |
scientes | I mean, are you not more inventive in how you will whipe your ass? | Mar 25 12:45 |
*scientes is with the people panic hoarding booze | Mar 25 12:45 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: Are you surprised that the Western Europe is very Roman-centric? | Mar 25 12:47 |
scientes | but in translating from Greek? | Mar 25 12:48 |
scientes | this is insanity | Mar 25 12:48 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Probably used the more "familiar" names for the same gods :) | Mar 25 12:48 |
XRevan86 | There's practically god-parity between the two pantheons | Mar 25 12:48 |
scientes | > But Telemachus as he lay covered with a woollen fleece kept thinking all night through of his intended voyage of the counsel that Minerva had given him. | Mar 25 12:49 |
scientes | http://classics.mit.edu/Homer/odyssey.1.i.html | Mar 25 12:49 |
scientes | except that its Athene.... | Mar 25 12:49 |
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psydread | This is the first time I've heard of such a bizarre thing being done in a translated work | Mar 25 12:49 |
scientes | > | Mar 25 12:50 |
scientes | ἔνθ᾽ ὅ γε παννύχιος, κεκαλυμμένος οἰὸς ἀώτῳ, | Mar 25 12:50 |
scientes | βούλευε φρεσὶν ᾗσιν ὁδὸν τὴν πέφραδ᾽ Ἀθήνη. | Mar 25 12:50 |
scientes | Ἀθήνη. == Athene, NOT Minerva | Mar 25 12:50 |
XRevan86 | scientes: You don't need to show proof, it's obvious that the original in Greek would have Greek gods | Mar 25 12:51 |
psydread | And this makes me realise how rusty my Greek has become and how much it is in need of a review (or 10) | Mar 25 12:51 |
scientes | well it gets the point accross that they put in something that totally isn't there | Mar 25 12:51 |
XRevan86 | scientes: There's one plausible explanation: the translation is from Latin. | Mar 25 12:52 |
XRevan86 | double conversion | Mar 25 12:52 |
scientes | psydread, I didn't really read that, it is just the last two lines of book 1 | Mar 25 12:52 |
scientes | Why buckwheat? | Mar 25 12:56 |
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oiaohm | https://edition.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/08/07/contrails.climate/index.html << I really wish I knew were to find global temp data to compare before and after shutdown caused by this virus. | Mar 25 15:21 |
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oiaohm | After 9/11 it was kind of scary. | Mar 25 15:21 |
oiaohm | Yes as horrible as it sounds if the 9/11 effect does not level out we could have a second round of deaths not use to illness but due to heat stroke., | Mar 25 15:22 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The banks are making it hard to even get your grocery money. | Mar 25 16:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Suddenly nobody's ATM wants to work and PNC cut your card limit in half. | Mar 25 16:01 |
roy_on_tedbox | we withdrew a lot of money | Mar 25 16:01 |
roy_on_tedbox | is it still at all possible to deposit checks? | Mar 25 16:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | Probably. | Mar 25 16:01 |
roy_on_tedbox | ok... | Mar 25 16:02 |
roy_on_tedbox | well, we can still withdraw money, max sums at a time | Mar 25 16:02 |
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oiaohm | roy_on_tedbox: there are only so many bank notes. | Mar 25 16:19 |
oiaohm | China prevented this problem by mandating everything bought by card. | Mar 25 16:19 |
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oiaohm | Now some countries may have to make that hard choice. | Mar 25 16:19 |
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DaemonFC[m] | > well, we can still withdraw money, max sums at a time | Mar 25 16:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__ Your money is backed by the full faith and credit of the government! | Mar 25 16:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which is led by a guy who has been sued 3600 times by all sorts of people for screwing them and walking away. | Mar 25 16:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Really makes you sleep great knowing your money is with a bank that could collapse because Mitch McConnell insists on a bailout bill for the Republican Party donors. | Mar 25 16:49 |
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DaemonFC[m] | One with no conditions too! | Mar 25 16:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | So they could just fail and give it all to the CEO or use it to buy other companies and it turns out they weren't actually in trouble. | Mar 25 16:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like PNC with TARP money in 2008. | Mar 25 16:51 |
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scientes | https://meduza.io/en/news/2015/01/30/woman-in-nizhny-novgorod-buys-320-kilos-of-buckwheat-asks-government-to-pay-for-storage | Mar 25 17:58 |
scientes | what is with Russians and buckwheat | Mar 25 17:58 |
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*XRevan86 looks at buckwheat | Mar 25 17:59 | |
scientes | when i bought lentils I had to eat one to make sure it wasn't buckwheat | Mar 25 17:59 |
scientes | because my georgian is not too great | Mar 25 17:59 |
scientes | although I did read "fasol" in georgian | Mar 25 17:59 |
scientes | its what russians hoarde for some reason in | Mar 25 17:59 |
scientes | https://meduza.io/en/short/2020/03/24/the-buckwheat-nation | Mar 25 17:59 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: I know, I know | Mar 25 17:59 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I don't know what to tell ya %) | Mar 25 18:00 |
scientes | are they planning on eating lots of buckwheat pancakes? | Mar 25 18:00 |
XRevan86 | It's good fried and as a cereal | Mar 25 18:00 |
scientes | cause those are not very good without lots of butter | Mar 25 18:01 |
scientes | "Buckwheat groats are commonly used in western Asia and eastern Europe. " | Mar 25 18:01 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I wasn't aware those exist. | Mar 25 18:01 |
scientes | I think that is the only way I've eaten buckwheat | Mar 25 18:01 |
scientes | "Historically, the Russian Empire was the world leader in buckwheat production.[40] Growing areas in the Russian Empire were estimated at 6.5 million acres (2,600,000 ha), followed by those of France at 0.9 million acres (360,000 ha).[41] In 1970, the Soviet Union grew an estimated 4.5 million acres (1,800,000 ha) of buckwheat. As of 2016, it remains a key cereal.[42][39]" | Mar 25 18:02 |
XRevan86 | https://takprosto.cc/wp-content/uploads/5/5-blyud-iz-grechki/2.jpg they look meaty. Evil. | Mar 25 18:02 |
scientes | "In 2017, world production was 3.8 million tonnes, led by Russia with 40% of the world total, followed by China with 38% and Ukraine with 5%.[39]" | Mar 25 18:02 |
scientes | U.S. use to produce buckwheat, which explains the pancakes | Mar 25 18:02 |
XRevan86 | scientes: https://st03.kakprosto.ru/tumb/680/images/article/2014/7/26/148080_53d349607905a53d3496079091.jpeg | Mar 25 18:03 |
scientes | "Buckwheat groats are commonly used in western Asia and eastern Europe. The porridge was common, and is often considered the definitive peasant dish." | Mar 25 18:03 |
scientes | ahh there it is | Mar 25 18:03 |
XRevan86 | This is how one does it. | Mar 25 18:03 |
scientes | XRevan86, it is partially the "I only have a cast iron pan and have to cook everything with it" | Mar 25 18:04 |
XRevan86 | butter, onions, chicken | Mar 25 18:04 |
XRevan86 | scientes: This reminds me of what I heard about pizza :) | Mar 25 18:05 |
scientes | but that makes no sense | Mar 25 18:06 |
scientes | because pizza requires super fancy ingredients | Mar 25 18:06 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's dough + misc. | Mar 25 18:06 |
scientes | meh..... | Mar 25 18:06 |
scientes | I've found the best sour kraut around here | Mar 25 18:07 |
scientes | its like when i made my own kefir: it was like 3X as strong with lactic acid | Mar 25 18:10 |
scientes | I like it that way | Mar 25 18:10 |
scientes | or maybe 2X | Mar 25 18:10 |
XRevan86 | scientes: How are pancakes with it? | Mar 25 18:10 |
scientes | I don't know, I haven't made pancakes here | Mar 25 18:11 |
scientes | when i first moved in I made borscht and bread | Mar 25 18:11 |
scientes | but I haven't wanted to cook since then | Mar 25 18:11 |
scientes | except I bake a fish occasionally | Mar 25 18:11 |
scientes | oh wow the currency keeps slipping | Mar 25 18:13 |
XRevan86 | Okay, I've got enough motivation to go eat. | Mar 25 18:13 |
scientes | 1 usd to 3.5 gel now | Mar 25 18:13 |
scientes | XRevan86, I don't think eating requries motivation.... | Mar 25 18:13 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I've been stalling | Mar 25 18:18 |
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scientes | https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/ | Mar 25 18:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/ ) | Mar 25 18:24 | |
scientes | one of them: > In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic. | Mar 25 18:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | I call old men I don't like buckwheat. | Mar 25 18:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's an insult. | Mar 25 18:25 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], it is food | Mar 25 18:26 |
scientes | actually quite nutritious | Mar 25 18:26 |
kingoffrance | old ppl will think it is a "little rascals" reference | Mar 25 18:26 |
scientes | better than the maize and wheat that replaced it | Mar 25 18:26 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], better than Grits | Mar 25 18:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I know, and it's damned hardy too. | Mar 25 18:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even on a bad production year, most of it will survive. | Mar 25 18:27 |
scientes | " | Mar 25 18:28 |
scientes | …there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. But what? At that time there was no Facebook or there maybe was but it was still in its infancy. The coronavirus, in contrast, is a virus with public relations." | Mar 25 18:28 |
scientes | damn straight | Mar 25 18:28 |
scientes | > But remember the joke about tigers. “Why do you blow the horn?” “To keep the tigers away.” “But there are no tigers here.” “There you see!” | Mar 25 18:30 |
scientes | hahahahahahahah | Mar 25 18:30 |
scientes | XRevan86, what is a good travel food? I always use peanut butter, but I can't find that here. | Mar 25 18:34 |
scientes | peanut butter is perfect: high food density, low water, no cooking needed, can be eaten directly, not messy, high protein | Mar 25 18:34 |
scientes | what I think would work would be sesame seed paste | Mar 25 18:35 |
scientes | but I don't know where to get that in non-halva (too sweet) form | Mar 25 18:35 |
scientes | This whole coronavirus thing makes me want to put every member of the media through the guillotine | Mar 25 18:41 |
scientes | Actually. that is kinda the point | Mar 25 18:46 |
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DaemonFC[m] | "…there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. " | Mar 25 19:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | There was a vaccine in 2009 and I took it. | Mar 25 19:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still had my CNA license so I told them I was a healthcare worker and got one. | Mar 25 19:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even without a vaccine for Pandemic Flu, there was no way it was ever going to be as bad as COVID-19. | Mar 25 19:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | People had been exposed to other flu viruses and the seasonal flu shot probably also did something. With COVID-19 nobody has ever had anything like it and it's spreading like wildfire because that makes everyone 0% immune to it. | Mar 25 19:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | We already knew how to make flu shots. The only delay was that they weren't making them for that specific flu right off the bat. They still don't know how to make a Coronavirus vaccine, so it's square 1, and when they do it will still take months to manufacture in bulk. | Mar 25 19:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | So let's say someone does figure out Coronavirus vaccine 3 months from now. The government says we're waiving all of the red tape, go! They have to manufacture them and the world will all be bidding for the shots as they're being made. | Mar 25 19:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | Well, in 3 months the virus will have done most of the damage before the first shot could even go out, a few months after that. | Mar 25 19:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | COVID-19 is "Hasta Lasagna, Don't get any on ya!" and it's not going to change. They're talking theoretical vaccines when Trump had us caught with our pants down and we can't get gloves and masks. | Mar 25 19:41 |
MinceR | suddenly they believe in vaccines? | Mar 25 19:41 |
MinceR | even Twitler? | Mar 25 19:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, uh, heh. | Mar 25 19:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | There was a Coronavirus Party in Kentucky MinceR | Mar 25 19:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | They were coughing on each other trying to get it. | Mar 25 19:42 |
scientes | DaemonFC[m], there we go | Mar 25 19:42 |
MinceR | political kind or fun kind? | Mar 25 19:42 |
MinceR | i guess neither | Mar 25 19:43 |
scientes | i want to go to one of those | Mar 25 19:43 |
scientes | MinceR, like a chicken pox party | Mar 25 19:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | My mom has it. | Mar 25 19:47 |
psydread | lol | Mar 25 19:47 |
kingoffrance | i said it in another channel, suddenly they believe in medieval alchemy (who basically theorized what a nowadays vaccine is) :) | Mar 25 19:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | They won't test her and they're turning people away from the hospitals in Indiana, curiously, even though there's "400 cases" in a state of 6.4 million people. | Mar 25 19:47 |
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DaemonFC[m] | And she's taking colloidal silver. | Mar 25 19:48 |
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DaemonFC[m] | With every disaster, the government uses spreadsheets to make it look less bad. They undercount the victims and then praise themselves for doing a great job. It's just as true in America in 2020 as it was in the Soviet Union in 1986. | Mar 25 19:49 |
MinceR | she wants to be blue? | Mar 25 19:49 |
CrystalMath | here's a song about a REAL virus, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuMO5vQ5HE | Mar 25 19:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-RISEN FROM THE RANK - AIDS (ORIGINAL 12'' VERSION) (℗1985) - YouTube | Mar 25 19:52 | |
MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6Es | Mar 25 19:52 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yC7HwPh6Es | Mar 25 19:52 |
MinceR | lol | Mar 25 19:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Team America-EVERYONE HAS AIDS! - YouTube | Mar 25 19:52 | |
scientes | MinceR, hahahahaha~! | Mar 25 19:52 |
scientes | I actually liked RENT | Mar 25 19:53 |
scientes | but that parody of it is valid | Mar 25 19:53 |
MinceR | also, here's a song about taking colloidal silver >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA52uNzx7Y4 | Mar 25 19:59 |
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DaemonFC[m] | > she wants to be blue? | Mar 25 19:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told her how dumb it is and all I got was a lousy rant. | Mar 25 19:59 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsY | Mar 25 19:59 |
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scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T1c7GkzRQQ | Mar 25 20:00 |
scientes | ^Red | Mar 25 20:00 |
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MinceR | :) | Mar 25 20:00 |
scientes | how many other colors? | Mar 25 20:00 |
MinceR | Purple Motion did a lot of stuff | Mar 25 20:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Have you heard of Occam's Razor? The simplest answer is often the correct one. You're telling me to believe that there's an FDA conspiracy to suppress colloidal silver, which requires me to believe that they're willing to let 12 million people die to maintain it, and keep the economy shut down for half a year at a loss of $8 trillion dollars worth of output when the simple answer is that the shit doesn't do | Mar 25 20:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | damned thing. | Mar 25 20:00 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJunCsrhJjg | Mar 25 20:00 |
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kingoffrance | IMO there is a simple explanation: people selling colloidal silver see an opportune moment to unload | Mar 25 20:01 |
kingoffrance | s/people/people who were already/ | Mar 25 20:01 |
scientes | I should start selling collodial fools gold | Mar 25 20:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean this is so bad the doctors don't even want my money. | Mar 25 20:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're all emailing me saying "We called in 6 months of your prescriptions and please don't try to come in.". | Mar 25 20:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Jesus Christ. I mean, that was at least three more stimulus checks worth of "Don't call us. We'll call you.". | Mar 25 20:14 |
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DaemonFC[m] | It's not hard to tell what's coming. | Mar 25 20:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | We're not far behind Italy in total infections right now. Maybe another day. And the more test kits states get, the more they find COVID-19 everywhere, so it may actually already be much worse. | Mar 25 20:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Italy has 7,503 deaths attributed to COVID-19 right now, so it's probably safe to say that a minimum of that number is baked in for the US even if this did actually go away like a miracle tomorrow. Which it won't. | Mar 25 20:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most people with a degree that's not from Trump University figure that we won't see cases peak for two months or so. | Mar 25 20:58 |
MinceR | https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/ef0fe9cd826aeab9.mp4 | Mar 25 21:35 |
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MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/02/03/e677014b63e2642c.mp4 | Mar 25 22:30 |
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MinceR | people are ignoring social distancing here as well | Mar 25 22:35 |
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DaemonFC[m] | He says, "What do you know about the French?". | Mar 25 22:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Their tanks have back up lights.". | Mar 25 22:47 |
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