●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, March 25, 2022 ●● ● Mar 25 [00:17] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I got an idea. Aldi carries good bread and it's half the price of Walmart's. [00:31] DaemonFC They say a wheat shortage is coming and bread will be really expensive. [00:31] DaemonFC I was thinking about freezing a bunch of loaves and then I have bread for quite a while even if the store runs out. [00:31] DaemonFC I'll bet I could get at least 15-20 loaves into the refrigerator freezer if I emptied it out. [00:32] DaemonFC That also works out nicely because then I won't have to go to Aldi all the time just for bread, and when I need to defrost the big freezer, I can move the bread down into the refrigerator, move the frozen stuff from the big freezer to the little one, get all the ice out of it, and then move everything back where it was. [00:33] DaemonFC Big freezers used to just be about convenience. [00:33] DaemonFC Today it helps you avoid supply shocks and stave off hyperinflation for a while. [00:33] DaemonFC I have pretty much a personal supermarket in my house. [00:34] DaemonFC If the grocery store just flat out could not get anything, we'd still be alive in here 100 days in, with something to eat. [00:34] DaemonFC Probably longer. [00:35] DaemonFC I already witnessed the "Give me that jacket, give me those pants!" Rick & Morty scene in real life. It played out in every grocery store in America after Trump said not to worry about groceries and to just have a few days worth and everything would be fine. [00:36] DaemonFC If people can do that in one day, and it takes weeks before there's anything to buy again.... [00:36] DaemonFC Imagine what Russia could do to the world by, I don't know, withholding its wheat. Not to mention the energy crisis that's unfolding. [00:37] DaemonFC Russia would love to fuck everybody with food shortages and energy shortages, but they can't because they don't really have much else that the world wants to buy from them. [00:37] DaemonFC The occasional neat hat, I suppose. [00:37] DaemonFC Apologies to XRevan86. [00:40] DaemonFC The US is taking so long to get Stinger missiles to Ukraine because they apparently need to be stripped of capabilities that ours have that are classified and are not authorized to be on the export versions. [00:40] DaemonFC RT was trying to scaremonger that all these Stingers will end up on the black market after the war is over. [00:40] DaemonFC They do expire. There were never any American helicopters shot down by our own Stingers in Afghanistan. [00:41] DaemonFC The battery that powers them is unique and is completely unusable after about 10 years. [00:41] DaemonFC The ones that were shooting down hundreds of Soviet helicopters in the 1980s would have been 17 or 18 years old by the time those stories started making the rounds. [00:42] DaemonFC immibis makes fun of me for saying buy a gun use a gun if the "Give me that jacket, give me those pants!" people come to your house. [00:43] DaemonFC But I'm telling you, that's the only thing you can really do at that point. [00:43] DaemonFC The new patient form at the doctor's office asked if I had a gun in the house. [00:43] DaemonFC I just left it blank. [00:43] DaemonFC I felt like writing "That's none of your goddamned business." but I just left it blank. [00:44] DaemonFC You're much more likely to die of medical malpractice than a gun in the house. [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 24.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 308.18 [00:59] activelow DaemonFC: USA does not rely on wheat imports from Ukraine/Russia [00:59] DaemonFC It's a commodity. ● Mar 25 [01:00] activelow it is China(?)/Africa/North-Africa who rely on wheat imports; currently Ukraine harbos don't ship anything anymore [01:00] DaemonFC The price will surge depending on what happens to those crops even if we aren't buying those particular crops. [01:00] activelow it will surge, yet not in EU/USA [01:00] activelow ^ a prognosis with some uncertainty [01:00] DaemonFC Well, China's about to get it much worse if it keeps leaning Russia's way. [01:01] activelow first and foremost it is Afrika/North-Afrika/Middle-East who will be affected [01:01] DaemonFC If there's a shortage of anything here, you'd better believe we'll cut off exports to China first. [01:01] DaemonFC Especially if they start backing Russia militarily. [01:01] activelow in EU it is Oil/Gas supplies at stake... hence the talking of G7/EU/Nato and Biddler visiting EU (in Russia he isn't welcomed and denied entry into the country) [01:02] DaemonFC Well, the Russians aren't welcome here either. [01:02] DaemonFC They're currently stuck at the Mexican border watching the Ukrainian refugees walk right in. [01:03] DaemonFC Congress sets a limit on refugee visas. Biden can only increase it to the maximum allotment. [01:03] DaemonFC And guess who isn't getting one. Russians. [01:03] DaemonFC Can you imagine the optics of doling them out to Russians and leaving Ukrainians out? [01:05] activelow can't follow; USA isn't involved with any refugee crisis of EU. USA only benefits from low energy prices so far. [01:05] DaemonFC Ukrainian immigrants are walking in through Mexico and applying for asylum. [01:05] DaemonFC There's also Russians that have been denied entry and are camped out there. [01:06] activelow reminds me, the "fracking boom" prognosis was it is a short-term one, not lasting longer than a decade round about... which is the timeline of it, Biddler asking Venezuela now for more. [01:06] DaemonFC I suppose they can do what the Mexicans do. Pay a smuggler and hope they don't get left in the middle of the desert for dead. [01:06] activelow i don't believe there is any Ukrainians or Russians stranded in Mexico [01:06] activelow how should they have arrived there? by plane? and when? [01:07] activelow and how many? [01:07] DaemonFC By plane, yes. [01:07] DaemonFC Enough that the news has been reporting on it. [01:07] activelow we are talking about 10million or more people here, total population of Ukraine is 40million. [01:08] activelow currently it is 3.7million which arrived in bordering regions and/or relocated within Ukraine. [01:08] DaemonFC Yeah, it's been like a couple thousand at the Mexican border. [01:08] DaemonFC Which is more than the last two years. [01:09] DaemonFC I think the media is just making hay out of it because it's got something to do with Mexico. [01:09] activelow sure, yet it is a difference if it is a few thousand, or dozens of millions. [01:09] DaemonFC Mexican immigrants are not generally well liked here. [01:09] DaemonFC Gives them the chance to bring up how bullshit it is that Mexicans just run across and scream asylum. [01:09] activelow remembering, when USA ignited war in Syria by funding rebels there... which was recognized as a violation of international law btw. [01:09] DaemonFC From what? [01:10] DaemonFC The Russians came in and mass murdered a bunch of people there with "President" Assad's blessing. [01:11] DaemonFC He didn't care how the Russians gave him his power back or what would happen to Syria because of the "favors" from Putin. [01:11] DaemonFC So what kind of a leader is that? [01:11] DaemonFC The one who sparks a rebellion in the first place, maybe? [01:11] activelow it was USA who spit Oil into fire in Syria, to bring "democracy", by funding rebels with weapons, according to some german parliament scientific paper cited today. [01:11] activelow yet, i am only citing. [01:12] activelow and i have reasons to believe, USA fiddled into internal affairs of Ukraine/Russia too, which escalated the situation. [01:12] activelow in the end, energy prices in USA are less than 50% of the ones in Germany/EU [01:13] activelow Russia expelled USA diplomats again. [01:13] activelow I am surprised Joe B. was permitted to visit Europe. [01:13] activelow I had not welcomed this. [01:14] activelow Instead, i think, Russia should support Chicago with their struggle, and provide rocket launchers and explosives to some gangs there, to bring democracy and freedom to USA. [01:17] activelow Then next, Arizona and Mexico are free to join Warsaw pact, with Soviet troops on the ground, and ballistic missiles, with a range to cover Washington, New York. [01:18] DaemonFC in the end, energy prices in USA are less than 50% of the ones in Germany/EU [01:18] DaemonFC Blame the German government, and the EU. [01:18] activelow As sanctions i propose, Florida harbors are supervised by Warsaw pact, and pay rent to Moscow. [01:19] DaemonFC Instead, i think, Russia should support Chicago with their struggle, and provide rocket launchers and explosives to some gangs there, to bring democracy and freedom to USA. [01:19] DaemonFC It's not far off from that already. [01:19] DaemonFC The criminals have much better weapons than the police and the public there. [01:20] DaemonFC It's mostly the fault of Chicago Democrats, which are unbelievably shittier than the mainstream party. [01:20] DaemonFC They shoot and kill the police and then the left goes "Oh, it's because years and years of white privilege, you can't remand him while he waits for trial!". [01:20] DaemonFC And then the mayor (black) goes "You can't have a funeral for the cops because COVID!" and then the cops tell the mayor to go fuck herself. [01:21] DaemonFC And have the funeral procession anyway. [01:21] DaemonFC The inmates are truly running the asylum down there. [01:22] activelow Of cause, FED accounts must be closed, and members of Congress be put onto blacklists, and USA will conduct their business with Rubles. [01:22] DaemonFC That being said, you could probably teach them how to operate a Stinger system because the CIA taught Muslims in Afghanistan who couldn't even read their own language how to operate those. [01:22] activelow Next, the curriculum of schools and universites requires slight adaptions, to provide them with Kyrillic scientific literature, as the lingua france of science, globally. [01:23] activelow From now on, the Business language of Silicon Valley is Ukrainian, with kyrillic alphabet. [01:23] DaemonFC The mayor's COVID restrictions did absolutely nothing to slow down COVID. [01:24] DaemonFC They caused 57% of the small businesses in the city of Chicago to fail. [01:24] DaemonFC Meanwhile, blacks were still piling into "house parties" and the city occasionally came out to write them a fine, but usually not. [01:24] DaemonFC I'd be interested in how many actually paid the fine. [01:25] DaemonFC Chicago can't get much worse than Lightfoot's administration. [01:26] DaemonFC And I think some are starting to realize it, even though Democrats there were fucking stupid enough to put her in office to begin with. [01:26] MinceR sure can [01:26] MinceR and probably will [01:26] DaemonFC She has to have K-Rails and cops blocking off her entire street. [01:26] DaemonFC Not only because she's worried that someone might kill her, but she also doesn't allow people to protest against her. [01:26] DaemonFC Messes up the view, you know? [01:27] DaemonFC I'm sure she's amassed quite the fan club now that 100,000 less Chicagoans have a job to go to thanks to her idiotic COVID policies. [01:27] DaemonFC Even if they want to work, so many employers shut down, and empty buildings generally don't have hiring fairs. [01:28] activelow dont' worry, there will be "humanitarian corridors", from Chicago to New York, and then a "special military operation" will bring peace. [01:28] MinceR no, i don't think putler will be able to get his forces into the usa [01:29] DaemonFC I also tried to vote out Preckwinkle last time. [01:29] DaemonFC She's basically Lightfoot, but for the county outside Chicago. [01:29] activelow MinceR: not necessary, that's what a private army exists for. [01:29] DaemonFC Every fucking stupid thing Lightfoot does ends up in the rest of Cook County thanks to Preckwinkle. [01:29] activelow Since FED accounts are closed, and USD sanctioned, they'll be paid with Rubles and Lira. [01:30] activelow yet at first, the airports in USA must be detonated, to prevent escalation of the conflict and secure Air Space. [01:36] activelow to settle peace finally, i think USA should be split into zones: east-cost belongs to Poland, north goes to germany, west-cost belongs to russia, and south is united with Mexico. [01:36] MinceR interesting dreams [01:37] activelow as a security guarantee a wall will be built, secured by border guards [01:37] DaemonFC The airports in Ukraine did need to be destroyed to prevent the Russians from easily airlifting equipment and troops in behind the front lines. [01:37] DaemonFC That is what you need to do, deny the enemy access to your infrastructure even if it means blowing it up. [01:37] MinceR presumably this whole "plan" starts with vladolf clicking his heels together to win the invasion of ukraine in a moment [01:38] DaemonFC presumably this whole "plan" starts with vladolf clicking his heels together to win the invasion of ukraine in a moment [01:38] DaemonFC It's more likely that the Russian losses continue to mount rapidly and finally their entire invasion force is dead or too injured to fight. [01:38] MinceR indeed [01:39] MinceR and then the sanctions and isolation cripple terrorussia [01:39] activelow it hasn't been an invasion force to begin with, and the first vehicles were light-armored ones (with the Z marking) [01:39] MinceR lol [01:39] MinceR they weren't even there, right? [01:39] DaemonFC He's been on the powder again, MinceR [01:39] MinceR ah. [01:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [01:41] DaemonFC Apparently, the best tanks and APCs Russia had to field are "only light-armored vehicles" and the fact that they've lost thousands doesn't matter even though a quarter of them had mechanicam failures and the Russians are too incompetent to bring spare tires and diesel. [01:41] DaemonFC *mechanical [01:41] MinceR it's an interesting take on "we don't have the advanced equipment our dictator thought we had" [01:42] activelow i think the plan had not been an "invasion" [01:42] DaemonFC Putler is such a great leader that his trucks are waiting to be blown up for want of fuel, jacks, and spare tires. [01:42] MinceR right [01:42] MinceR the plan was calling it "peacekeeping" [01:42] MinceR but somehow not everyone is stupid enough to buy that [01:42] DaemonFC MinceR, The Russian soldiers are better at only one thing. [01:42] activelow Ukraine is bigger than germany, and a troop of 100000 cannot invade and control and entire region as big as Ukraine [01:42] DaemonFC THEY ARE SUPERIOR AT DYIIIIIIING! [01:42] MinceR lol [01:42] MinceR EXTERMINATE! [01:43] DaemonFC Indeed [01:43] activelow the Wehrmacht had 7million infantry, Red Army was dozen million something; that's the man power required to invade and occupy. [01:43] activelow and i speculate, do not know, russian military command knew this, and didn't intend to "invade" or "occupy" [01:44] DaemonFC The Russians would have lost had Hitler conducted the war a little better. [01:44] activelow for this they had required close to a dozen million boots on the ground in Ukraine [01:44] DaemonFC Instead of making advances, he decided to stay at Stalingrad well after it was flattened and keep shelling it, until winter came and all the Germans started freezing and starving to death. [01:44] DaemonFC How ironic that this is the Russian folly in Ukraine. [01:44] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [01:45] MinceR no, the terrorussian folly was starting this war in the first place [01:45] MinceR and before then, relying on corruption and stealing instead of letting the economy develop [01:45] activelow Russia supplied Ukraine with Gas at a friendship discount; they still do, including Balticum region. [01:46] DaemonFC The state-owned fossil fuel companies are about all they have. [01:46] DaemonFC State-owned corporations are usually operated inefficiently because it creates a patronage army. [01:46] MinceR well, that changes everything [01:47] MinceR obviously a discount entitles vladolf to just march in, take over and enslave the people [01:47] MinceR right? [01:47] MinceR i guess that's russian friendship [01:47] MinceR closely related to russian peace [01:47] DaemonFC Walmart gives you a 10% employee discount (on junk, not food) and figures they have that right. [01:48] DaemonFC Pretty much the only reason I shop at Walmart for food is because I get a whoping 5% off food with their credit card. [01:49] DaemonFC They're otherwise not competitive. [01:49] DaemonFC The stores are huge, frequently messy and disorganized. [01:49] DaemonFC Who needs an entire aisle of bread? [01:49] DaemonFC Who needs peanut butter in 11 different brands with 3 sizes each? [01:50] DaemonFC I'm surprised Aldi is about the same price as Walmart. [01:50] MinceR i do [01:50] DaemonFC You'd think that with a store a quarter the size without the need for lots of labor hours and rent and energy usage, they could pass along some of it. [01:51] DaemonFC I don't buy computers at Walmart. [01:51] DaemonFC I could buy them 15% below list price and I still don't. [01:51] DaemonFC They aren't the same quality that the manufacturer sells direct. [01:52] DaemonFC They have special "Walmart" models with the cheapest junk you can throw in there. [01:52] DaemonFC The hinges break, they overheat....Most don't even last a year or two. [01:52] MinceR sounds like dHell and crApple [01:53] MinceR throw in a firmware that makes the whole thing unusable and they've got HP covered, too [01:56] DaemonFC They do sell Dell and HP laptops. [01:57] DaemonFC with the "WM" on the end of the model number. [01:57] DaemonFC That's how you know they made that one extra shitty. [01:57] MinceR :> [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.70 k/sec., IPFS upstream 23.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 275.83 ● Mar 25 [02:03] *Skywave has quit (connection closed) [02:03] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@7au7cchx5x986.irc) has joined #techrights [02:20] activelow MinceR> right? [02:21] activelow i do not know what the plans are. [02:21] activelow i doubt however, Burisma Biddler conducting USD business was the path to freedom. [02:21] activelow and pardon, don't explain to me, the business habits of USA. [02:22] activelow that's why, i think, FED must be sanctioned, USA disconnected from SWIFT, and use Ruble reserve currency. [02:22] activelow to pay their debt [02:23] activelow anyway, off-topic. [02:23] activelow gn [02:29] MinceR lol [02:33] DaemonFC I'm glad I bought eggs. [02:33] DaemonFC Nobody has egga now unless you want to pay a fortune for "organic brown eggs cage free" [02:34] DaemonFC Which cost 5 times more than regular white eggs. [02:38] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240322.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240322.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-240322.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-240322.txt [02:38] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, March 24, 2022 [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[02:47] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/24/jury-convicts-zion-woman-of-fatally-striking-bicyclist-with-suv-fleeing-scene-in-waukegan/ [02:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/24/jury-convicts-zion-woman-of-fatally-striking-bicyclist-with-suv-fleeing-scene-in-waukegan/ [02:47] TR Bot Jury convicts Zion woman of fatally striking bicyclist with SUV, fleeing scene in Waukegan [02:48] DaemonFC "Ray, who faces up to 15 years in prison, is scheduled to appear in court again on May 18 for a sentencing hearing." [02:49] DaemonFC And could have pretty much completely disarmed the prosecution by stopping and calling 911. [02:49] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/frosties-rug-pull-charges [02:49] TR Bot NFT rug pull: DOJ files charges - Protocol [02:52] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/24/child-sex-assault-suspect-found-dead-after-failing-to-appear-in-mchenry-county-court/ [02:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/24/child-sex-assault-suspect-found-dead-after-failing-to-appear-in-mchenry-county-court/ [02:52] TR Bot Child sex assault suspect found dead after failing to appear in McHenry County court [02:52] DaemonFC Womp womp. [02:52] DaemonFC :P [02:52] DaemonFC The judge ordered that the court keeps the $25,000 he posted to bond out before he killed himself. [02:52] DaemonFC Because of course they did. [02:53] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/sourcecode/google-spotify-third-party-payment [02:53] TR Bot this the end of the app store tax? - Protocol [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.61 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 295.43 [02:59] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/23/500000-bond-for-felon-after-cops-find-gun-drugs-in-his-possession-in-waukegan/ [02:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/23/500000-bond-for-felon-after-cops-find-gun-drugs-in-his-possession-in-waukegan/ [02:59] TR Bot $500,000 bond for felon after cops find gun, drugs in his possession in Waukegan [02:59] DaemonFC A Ruger 9mm is hardly a gun though. [02:59] DaemonFC If you figure you're going to have to use a gun in a shootout at some point, you probably don't want the $299 special where 1 out of 5 rounds jams the piece of shit. [02:59] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ ● Mar 25 [03:00] DaemonFC https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/ruger-10-22-reliability.76653/ [03:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: thefirearmsforum.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/ruger-10-22-reliability.76653/ [03:00] TR Bot Ruger 10/22 Reliability | The Firearms Forum [03:01] DaemonFC "I've been having some problems with my 10/22...The gun fails to fire (sometimes have to manually cycle up to four rounds to get it to fire), and occasionally doesn't fully eject the spent casing (gets pinched in the action). Is this normal on these fun little boom sticks?" [03:01] DaemonFC Ruger.....The Volkswagen of guns. [03:02] DaemonFC I guess the police had to arrest him on the off chance that the thing worked when he pulled the trigger. :) [03:02] MinceR lol [03:04] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 388633 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39876 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 14 days ago [03:04] DaemonFC I'd like to channel George Carlin for a few moments. [03:05] DaemonFC When they say they're being "profiled" by the cops, what they really mean is that they're constitutionally incapable of shutting the fuck up while they're breaking the law. [03:05] DaemonFC And, in general, drawing as little attention to themselves as they can. [03:05] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 3.3 GB TotalOut: 721 MB [03:05] DaemonFC Like, I smoked pot when it was illegal to do so. [03:06] DaemonFC I don't doubt that white people smoke as much pot, or more, in general. [03:06] DaemonFC Thing is, I put it under my seat in an airtight container and followed the traffic laws. [03:06] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:06] DaemonFC Then when I was home, I pulled the curtains shut. [03:06] DaemonFC Then before I went out again, I showed the smell off. [03:07] DaemonFC *showered [03:07] IPFS QmZAPYrP7hETWM5jGJE8DCf5TgW4hE1qdRnTa5DiwUyy2i [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:10] DaemonFC MinceR, Someone had an NRA sticker on the back of their car earlier. [03:11] DaemonFC I said, "Well, that's not a good idea. It's legal to be in the NRA, but you're basically telling the cop there's a reason to suspect there's a gun somewhere in your car.". [03:11] DaemonFC Singling yourself out for police harassment usually doesn't end well. [03:12] DaemonFC You want the cop to forget about you and go back to his shift as quickly as possible. [03:12] DaemonFC Anything that makes you stick out in his mind later in court is likely to make him remember everything else and maybe even have a grudge. [03:16] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/23/multiple-businesses-damaged-after-fire-at-strip-mall-in-gurnee/ [03:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/23/multiple-businesses-damaged-after-fire-at-strip-mall-in-gurnee/ [03:16] TR Bot Multiple businesses damaged after fire at strip mall in Gurnee [03:17] DaemonFC A tattoo parlor caught fire. And nothing of value was lost. [03:17] DaemonFC "Investigators will return Thursday morning to continue investigating, Heraver said." [03:17] DaemonFC We are taking the investigators to the investigation site to investigate! [03:19] MinceR they're taking the hobbits to Isengard! [03:57] *matey (~matey@g9hda3zjbn9hi.irc) has joined #techrights [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.95 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.61 average k/sec., average swarm size 280.28 ● Mar 25 [04:43] DaemonFC GNOME Web 42 Flatpak is up. [04:45] DaemonFC "One notable uplift in GNOME 42 for Ubuntu 22.04 users is triple frame buffer support. This boosts GPU rendering performance (when required) to deliver a smoother desktop experience by as much as 2x on Intel graphics and the Raspberry Pi. While this change didnt make it in to the final release of GNOME 42 the Ubuntu 22.04 release carries a patch that implements it." [04:45] DaemonFC Hmm, that might be worth trying out Ubuntu to look at. [04:47] matey /me pukes a little [04:48] matey the only good gnome is a dead gnome [04:49] matey and the only purpose of gnome is to bring all the wonders of windows to gnu/linux [04:49] matey everything you love about windows-- the lock-in, the instability, the cults of personality, the general treatment of users as serfs [04:49] matey if you love windows, youll love gnome [04:50] matey of course you know all this already, so it wont sway you if it hasnt already [04:52] matey faster rendering, but it wont matter if the rest of it limps along [04:53] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [04:53] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uc58nh97gtnfa.irc) has joined #techrights [04:53] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [04:54] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uc58nh97gtnfa.irc) has joined #techrights [04:55] DaemonFC GNOME isn't remotely like Windows at all. [04:55] DaemonFC The Mandriva setup even said if you like Windows, try KDE. [04:56] matey GNOME isn't remotely like Windows at all <- i mean the whole gist of it, not the appearance [04:56] matey in terms of ui, im sure its not like anything else [04:56] matey ive used gnome 3, but not recently [04:56] matey theres a gtk4 developer here [04:57] matey i dont know if he works on gtk4 itself, he works on an application that uses gtk4 [04:57] matey i wont do anything with gtk past gtk3, im done with that [04:57] matey except of course, tor-browser [04:57] matey maybe a graphical editor and mplayer if its needed [04:58] matey /me checks if mplayer needs gtk3 [04:58] matey mplayer only needs sdl [04:58] matey no gtk [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.48 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.33 average k/sec., average swarm size 288.05 [04:59] matey he works on an application that uses gtk4 <- the application itself is pretty epic [04:59] matey i just wont use gtk4 applications ● Mar 25 [05:00] matey as for gnome, theyre a bit like the mafia the way they push around developers of other projects [05:00] matey like xfce [05:02] matey i liked gnome 2. gnome 3 is when they really became pricks [05:06] matey xfce used to be a pretty good alternative, i wouldnt even recommend it now. its too... shitty [05:06] matey i dont know if its their fault or if theyre just scrambling to keep up with gnomes fix-it-if-it-aint-brokenism [05:07] matey i helped someone install an xfce desktop recently [05:07] matey then i helped them instal icewm in its place-- and it was less unpredictable, more intuitive [05:07] matey a few years ago i would have recommended lxde, but that also has gotten ridiculous [05:08] matey they cant leave things alone enough for them to be reliable [05:08] matey gotta restyle revamp redo everything [05:08] matey gee nice desktop youve got here, be a shame if wed have to come along and break it [05:09] matey but lots of developers do that to users-- gnome likes to do it to users and to other developers too, just like microsoft would [05:09] matey i cant think of any group of devs worse about this, unless theyre also involved with gnome somehow [05:10] matey like debian [05:10] matey if i needed my desktop fucked with every few years, id just use windows [05:11] matey this is literally the kind of shit i moved to gnu/linux to get away from [05:11] matey but its ok, you switch from desktop environments to window managers again, theres some level of sanity. as long as it doesnt need gtk. [05:12] matey kde doesnt care anymore either. heck, i couldnt even run the desktop in kde after they ditched 3 [05:12] matey it would just crash [05:13] matey window managers yes, desktop environments, no [05:13] matey unless you want your gui screwed around with about as much as the front page of youtube [05:30] matey https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit [05:30] TR Bot - WebKit/WebKit: Official git mirror of the WebKit repository, https://svn.webkit.org/repository/webkit, future canonical repository. [05:30] matey Official git mirror of the WebKit repository, https://svn.webkit.org/repository/webkit, [05:31] matey official mirror... [05:31] matey future canonical repository. [05:31] matey webkitgtk soon to be microsoft webkitgtk [05:31] matey but some small project might leave [05:32] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [05:32] matey "future canonical repository" their wording [05:45] DaemonFC GNOME Web 42 seems to work nicely. [05:45] DaemonFC They finally fixed password sync for Firefox Sync. [05:48] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:48] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [05:48] *Guest64 (~05024532@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [05:53] TR News Nala: A Beautiful and Structured Front-end for the APT Command Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162964 [05:53] TR Bot Nala: A Beautiful and Structured Front-end for the APT Command | Tux Machines [05:54] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, March 24, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [05:54] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [05:54] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [05:54] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 40.75 average k/sec., average swarm size 281.41 ● Mar 25 [06:07] Guest64 Hi [06:07] schestowitz-TR hi [06:07] Guest64 are you a bot? [06:08] schestowitz-TR no, it's Roty [06:08] schestowitz-TR Roy [06:08] Guest64 hello roy [06:08] schestowitz-TR I think you use a web interface [06:09] Guest64 yes so ? [06:09] Guest64 I think you use konversation [06:10] *bnchs (~bnchs@dhignbj8vrfhg.irc) has joined #techrights [06:11] bnchs one thing i find funny about windows [06:11] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 394392 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39876 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 15 days ago [06:11] bnchs they say it has more features than GNU/Linux "will ever have" [06:11] schestowitz-TR Guest64: yes, but you thought we were bots :D [06:11] bnchs yet they have to patch the binary with mods to have even the most simplest things [06:11] bnchs like dark mode in notepad [06:13] Guest64 that way they can have notepad 1 red mode and notepad 2 green mode [06:13] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 394481 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39877 Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 1 months 15 days ago [06:14] bnchs while in something like gedit [06:14] bnchs you can simply apply a GTK theme [06:14] Guest64 but you cant apply a them per app [06:14] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 3.6 GB TotalOut: 793 MB [06:15] bnchs you can [06:15] bnchs by setting the GTK_THEME env variable [06:15] schestowitz-TR fair point, but seems unlikely you would want to do this [06:15] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [06:16] bnchs with free software: you can simply modify the code and recompile [06:16] bnchs with proprietary software: you have to find which bytes does which [06:16] Guest64 but in linux you install gapp and kapp and you end up with KDE plus GNOME instaled [06:16] IPFS QmZAPYrP7hETWM5jGJE8DCf5TgW4hE1qdRnTa5DiwUyy2i [06:16] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [06:17] bnchs Guest64: never have i ever had that [06:18] Guest64 sure [06:18] bnchs maybe i never used gnome apps [06:18] bnchs but i do use galculator [06:19] Guest64 why isnt there a unified app thing for linux? [06:20] bnchs elaborate [06:20] matey for the same reason there isnt single church [06:20] schestowitz linux as in the kernel? [06:20] schestowitz gtk is more gnu than linux [06:20] bnchs first of all i hate packages that pull in the an entire DE [06:20] bnchs like evolution [06:20] Guest64 thats why im agnostic [06:21] matey gnu/linux is agnostic too [06:21] matey though lately its converted to the cult of ibm [06:21] Guest64 you just said its not [06:21] matey no i said there isnt a unifed app for the same reason there isnt a single church [06:21] matey thats traditionally true [06:21] bnchs https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/gnome-chess/ [06:21] matey then i said gnu/linux is agnostic [06:21] TR Bot Arch Linux - gnome-chess 41.1-1 (x86_64) [06:21] matey thats also traditionally true [06:22] matey then i said theyve recently converted to a cult [06:22] matey thats recently true [06:22] matey but it hasnt resulted in a unified app [06:22] matey and it wont [06:22] matey unless its systemd-appd :) [06:22] TR News You Can Now Install Linux On An M1 Mac http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162909#comment-33185 [06:22] TR Bot Asahi Linux: The Individual Users Stake in an Apple Silicon World | Tux Machines [06:23] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:23] bnchs Guest64: elaborate on this "but in linux you install gapp and kapp and you end up with KDE plus GNOME instaled" [06:23] bnchs because i once installed kde okular and all it did was install just a few kde libraries [06:24] bnchs and a bloated qt webengine [06:24] bnchs but never KDE desktop entirely [06:24] Guest64 its install gtk libs and qt libs alover the place [06:24] matey bnchs as much as id like to share your concern, it sounds more like a packaging issue [06:24] matey outside of gnomes control [06:24] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:24] bnchs matey: arch linux is getting insane anyway [06:24] matey yes, it is [06:24] bnchs they hard dep'd wayland to mpv [06:24] bnchs even though it doesnt need it [06:24] matey im not sure that can be helped [06:25] matey are you sure? [06:25] matey im against wayland, but it creeps into everything [06:25] bnchs Guest64: thats required for the UI? [06:25] matey harfbuzz is another one [06:25] matey microsoft harfbuzz [06:25] matey and soon microsoft webkit too [06:25] bnchs matey: mpv can run in X11 and opengl [06:25] bnchs and wayland [06:26] matey ive seen wayland deps in x11 before [06:26] matey hopefully that can be avoided [06:26] matey im not really sure how it works [06:26] matey this may be archs fault [06:26] matey but it may simply be wayland moving in on x11 [06:27] bnchs whatever it is [06:27] matey id rather it be archs fault because that means we have a choice [06:27] bnchs im not installing wayland for a program that works fine on X11 [06:27] matey bnchs: its an ongoing concern, the encroachment of wayland [06:27] matey im against it [06:27] bnchs they already shoved systemd [06:27] matey youre preaching to the choir here [06:27] matey which is fine [06:27] matey but i have the same opinion about it [06:28] matey wayland should be optional [06:28] matey all im saying is, im not sure it will stay optional [06:28] Guest64 wayland is the way [06:28] matey wayland is the way <- yeah they said the same thing about jesus [06:29] matey i love open source crusades [06:29] matey kiss the ring and bow to gafam [06:29] Guest64 actually i tought it was the mandalorias [06:29] matey i dont watch star wars [06:29] Guest64 mandalorians [06:29] Guest64 it was a joke [06:30] matey thats okay [06:30] bnchs matey: you can build mpv with X11 support and no wayland [06:30] matey bnchs: then thats what they should do [06:30] bnchs yeah but redhat doesnt like that [06:30] matey /me checks if mplayer needs wayland (mpv is github) [06:30] matey redhat are dicks [06:31] matey no wayland in mplayer [06:31] bnchs in the build process, it only builds wayland support if wayland libs are detected [06:31] matey im glad you understand the build process [06:31] matey ive built bash and python 2, but i dont understand the process [06:32] Guest64 you use auto tools [06:32] matey i use the ports system [06:32] matey it uses whatever it uses [06:34] bnchs arch linux isnt lightweight anymore [06:34] matey no its a farce [06:34] matey parabola is hardcore about blacklisting things [06:34] bnchs they shove in unnecessary deps [06:34] matey but i dont think they blacklisted systemd [06:34] bnchs matey: hyperbola* [06:34] matey hyperbola rocks! [06:34] Guest64 arch linux was made for poeple that couldnt install gentoo [06:34] bnchs parabola is a more permissive hyperbola [06:34] *Despatche has quit (connection closed) [06:34] matey but when i said parabola i meant parabola [06:35] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [06:35] matey parabola is a more permissive hyperbola <- ive been looking at both blacklists this week [06:35] matey this doesnt negate what youre saying of course [06:35] TR News "Just an FYI, the alpha version of Steam is only available on a small number of Chromebooks." https://www.pcworld.com/article/625496/playing-skyrim-steam-chromebook-impressions.html [06:35] TR Bot Skyrim on a Chromebook with Steam rocks (once it's running) | PCWorld [06:35] matey but hyperbolas blacklist hasnt been updated in 7 months [06:35] bnchs hyperbola blacklists packages for even having no sha512 checksums [06:35] matey maybe they got everything :) [06:35] matey hyperbola blacklists packages for even having no sha512 checksum <- thats a bit weird [06:36] TR News "Melvin Conway famously said that organizations design systems that mirror their own communication structure. But how about Conways Law applied to the entire industry rather than a single company?" "https://hisham.hm/2022/03/23/conways-law-applied-to-the-industry-as-a-whole/ [06:36] TR Bot Law applied to the industry as a whole hisham.hm [06:36] Guest64 i bet they coulf port skyrim to run in a browser [06:36] TR News "Using Free software plays a central role in allowing European public administrations to deliver their services" https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/fosseps/news/help-identify-critical-open-source-software [06:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/fosseps/news/help-identify-critical-open-source-software [06:36] TR Bot Help identify Critical Open Source Software | Joinup [06:36] bnchs browsers dont even have the full opengl interface [06:36] matey they blacklist SOURCE packages for having no sha512? [06:37] bnchs and theres already tons of hacks involved in making a webgl game [06:37] TR News "Nextcloud and MariaDB announce a new partnership to bring Nextcloud customers a better database experience." https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-and-mariadb-collaborate-to-boost-scalability-and-high-availability-for-customers/ [06:37] TR Bot and MariaDB collaborate to boost scalability and high availability for customers Nextcloud [06:38] psydruid the currently popular desktop environments are living on borrowed time [06:38] psydruid they're all becoming buggy and bloated [06:38] bnchs xfce still works [06:39] bnchs and runs in under 600 mb (with hexchat and emacs open) [06:39] bnchs 600 mb of ram [06:39] matey gnome is doing systemd to xfce [06:39] psydruid it broke for me on Debian and Ubuntu on a few systems [06:40] matey metaphorically (maybe literally but i meant metaphorically, like wayland) [06:40] bnchs never broke for me [06:40] psydruid I think I have it still working on OpenBSD [06:40] matey i wrote off xfce the last time i had someone using it [06:40] matey it was getting in their way [06:40] bnchs (land) [06:40] matey i had them install icewm isntead [06:42] TR News Social control media bad for your health https://theconversation.com/ukraine-doomscrolling-can-harm-your-cognition-as-well-as-your-mood-heres-what-to-do-about-it-178923 [06:42] TR Bot Ukraine doomscrolling can harm your cognition as well as your mood here's what to do about it [06:42] matey i tried ted today, the ancient rtf editor [06:42] matey never was a fan, but maybe it worked (no serious tests of it) [06:43] TR News TESTA https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/interoperability-eu-healthcare-cooperation [06:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: europa.eu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/interoperability-eu-healthcare-cooperation [06:43] matey libreoffice is pretty much dead to me [06:43] TR Bot Interoperability in EU healthcare cooperation | Joinup [06:43] matey id still recommend it to someone who needed it, under protest [06:44] matey i can code my own epubs, so whether i need libreoffice is debateable [06:44] matey i dont presently have a way to make pdfs, though pdfs are... [06:45] TR News "Lapsus$ has taken responsibility for some major security breaches at tech companies, including Nvidia, Samsung, Ubisoft, Okta, and Microsoft." https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22994563/lapsus-hacking-group-london-police-arrest-microsoft-nvidia [06:45] TR Bot Seven teenagers arrested in connection with the Lapsus$ hacking group - The Verge [06:46] TR News Microsoft: let's focus on the people, not our defunct systems https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/599642-alleged-microsoft-okta-hackers-arrested-in-uk [06:46] TR Bot Microsoft, Okta hackers arrested in UK | TheHill [06:46] TR News Shifting attention https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/british-police-say-seven-people-arrested-after-okta-hack-2022-03-24/ [06:46] TR Bot Okta hackers arrested by British police | Reuters [06:47] *CParadoxum__ (~quassel@9xkr6pdp2c5xu.irc) has joined #techrights [06:47] TR News "Ive heard people (I think it was Stephen Fry) describe it as how American humor is about smart-alecks and British humor is about self-deprecation. Problem for me is that a lot of the self-deprecating jokes punch not only at self, but down and all around, hitting everyone who shares traits with the character." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/british-comedy [06:48] bnchs ok a 16 year old frontman for lapsus [06:48] psydruid they've got the mastermind [06:49] Guest64 mastermind is English wich is better then if it was russian [06:49] TR News "When I first saw the Badger 2040 on Hacker News, I knew I had to get it. It seemed like a great little package to hack on, with an e-ink screen, buttons, and an LED, all for a good price. And finally I'd get my hands on an RP2040, which has interested me since it first came out." gemini://makeworld.space/gemlog/2022-03-24-wordle_badger2040.gmi [06:50] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D182.jpg [06:50] matey ibm doesnt have masterminds it has mainminds [06:50] bnchs really? [06:50] schestowitz denyhumour [06:50] bnchs if its a 16 year old, then you can say [06:50] TR News Windows TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/uk-police-arrest-seven-teens-allegedly-connected-to-lapsus$.html [06:50] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/uk-police-arrest-seven-teens-allegedly-connected-to-lapsus$.html [06:50] TR Bot - UK police arrest seven teens allegedly connected to Lapsus$ [06:50] bnchs that windows' security is so shit that even a 16 year old can break through it [06:50] TR News "Unfortunately, at least the Apple TV does this goofy thing where it also (by default, I'm pretty sure) advertises itself to anyone nearby." https://rachelbythebay.com/w/2022/03/23/airplay/ [06:50] TR Bot AirPlay in a high-density environment isn't great [06:51] TR News Windows TCO https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/ransomware-payments-hit-new-records-in-2021-as-dark-web-leaks-climbed/90431578 [06:51] TR Bot Ransomware payments hit new records in 2021 as Dark Web leaks climbed, CIO News, ET CIO [06:51] TR News Gulag creeping deeper https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/next-gen-technologies/google-tests-catching-heart-eye-issues-from-smartphone-sensors/90431675 [06:51] TR Bot google: Google tests catching heart, eye issues from smartphone sensors, CIO News, ET CIO [06:51] Guest64 they say that the hacker was so good they thought its as an automated program... [06:52] TR News Gulag goes beyond people's medical records, and we're meant to celebrate this? https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/599647-google-allowing-search-users-to-book-health-care-appointments [06:52] TR Bot allowing search users to book health care appointments | TheHill [06:52] bnchs the hacker wasnt good [06:52] bnchs its just windows' security being like a cheetos in a doorlock [06:54] TR News Privacy in Ireland https://www.scss.tcd.ie/doug.leith/privacyofdialerandsmsapps.pdf [06:55] Guest64 they goan have to be fined [06:55] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:56] Guest64 you can do whatever as long you got the capital to pay the fines [06:56] TR News Expect low-powered PCs (with GNU/Linux) to become more economically attractive https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/03/26/why-energy-insecurity-is-here-to-stay [06:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: economist.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.economist.com/leaders/2022/03/26/why-energy-insecurity-is-here-to-stay [06:56] TR Bot energy insecurity is here to stay | The Economist [06:57] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [06:57] TR News So-called 'Crypto' https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/03/crypto-undermining-power-of-west-to-cripple-economies-through-sanctions-ukraine-russia-war-shows/ [06:57] TR Bot Crypto undermining power of the West to cripple economies through sanctions - Ukraine-Russia war shows - Techzim [06:57] Guest64 Expect low-powered PCs (with GNU/Linux) to become more economically attractive they mean raspberrypi? [06:57] TR News Energy wars https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/opinion/ukraine-democrats-fossil-fuel-climate-change.html [06:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/opinion/ukraine-democrats-fossil-fuel-climate-change.html [06:57] TR Bot Opinion | Were in a Fossil Fuel War. Biden Should Say So. - The New York Times [06:58] TR News [old] "And in the process of simply existing, cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, one of the most popular, use astonishing amounts of electricity" https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/cryptocurrency/bitcoin/bitcoin-uses-more-electricity-than-many-countries-how-is-that-possible/articleshow/86190525.cms [06:58] TR Bot Bitcoin uses more electricity than many countries. How is that possible? - Times of India [06:58] Guest64 cant you put the dumb bot on a timer so as to not flood the channel? [06:58] schestowitz-TR it's not something that goes on a timer [06:58] schestowitz-TR that's me posting [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.21 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.40 average k/sec., average swarm size 291.68 [06:59] schestowitz-TR and yes, I meant things like SBCs [06:59] Guest64 i thought you hade some sort off tss reader posting on irc ● Mar 25 [07:00] TR News We couldnt have people over to gather in our front yard because we could hardly hear one another talking, said Preston Holley, whose home sits across the street from the mine. https://www.inquirer.com/business/technology/crypto-mining-data-loud-sound-bitcoin-20220321.html [07:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: inquirer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.inquirer.com/business/technology/crypto-mining-data-loud-sound-bitcoin-20220321.html [07:00] TR Bot An Appalachian town was told a Bitcoin mine would bring an economic boom. It got noise pollution and an eyesore. [07:00] schestowitz-TR Guest64: depending on the irc clients, there are things that can be done [07:01] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:01] TR News "Australias electricity systems face several key challenges, including ageing infrastructure, increasing complexity, and the need for investment in transmission and distribution" https://itwire.com/science-news/energy/ageing-infrastructure-among-key-challenges-faced-by-australia%e2%80%99s-electricity-systems,-says-csiro.html [07:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/science-news/energy/ageing-infrastructure-among-key-challenges-faced-by-australia%e2%80%99s-electricity-systems,-says-csiro.html [07:01] TR Bot - Ageing infrastructure among key challenges faced by Australias electricity systems, says CSIRO [07:03] TR News old: 'crypto' craze https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/crypto-craze-can-go-the-same-way-as-tulip-mania/articleshow/89532156.cms [07:03] TR Bot Crypto craze can go the same way as tulip mania - Times of India [07:04] TR News Reemmer what Ubuntu was like in 2004? Forget that. https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/want-a-job-at-canonical-write-a-5000:3 [07:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/want-a-job-at-canonical-write-a-5000:3 [07:04] TR Bot Want A Job At Canonical? Write A 5000 Word Essay?!? [07:06] psydruid become an essay writer at Canonical [07:06] psydruid graduate to becoming a script writer and get the script filmed [07:06] schestowitz-TR Microsoft-like [07:07] psydruid The Adventures of Big Bucks Markie [07:07] TR News Banksters look at genocides as a matter of "economic stability" https://today.rtl.lu/news/science-and-environment/a/1886865.html [07:08] TR Bot RTL Today - Biodiversity framework : Biodiversity loss threatens economic stability: central banks report [07:09] TR News Not just the Internet https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2022/0323/Russia-s-first-homefront-casualties-Reporters-and-the-press [07:09] TR Bot homefront has seen its first casualty: The media - CSMonitor.com [07:14] TR News Uber should just be dead already. Its motivations are bad all around. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22994332/uber-yellow-taxi-app-nyc-curb-cmt-arro-deal [07:14] TR Bot Uber will feature NYC taxi cabs in its app under groundbreaking new deal - The Verge [07:14] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:14] TR News Digital Restrictions (DRM) expensive not just in the short-term financial sense https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22993562/netflix-price-increase-us-plans-2022 [07:14] TR Bot Yes, Netflix just got even more expensive - The Verge [07:16] TR News "A lawsuit that accused Amazon of violating antitrust laws when it allegedly used third-party sellers data to help increase the sales of its own products was dismissed on Friday." https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/amazon-lawsuit-dismissed-private-5g-network-for-dod-232m-in-ohio-broadband-grants/ [07:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/amazon-lawsuit-dismissed-private-5g-network-for-dod-232m-in-ohio-broadband-grants/ [07:16] TR Bot Amazon Lawsuit Dismissed, Private 5G Network for DoD, $232M in Ohio Broadband Grants : Broadband Breakfast [07:16] TR News Stop saying " Big Tech"; you're using the vocabulary of Microsoft lobbyists https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22994234/eu-antitrust-legislation-dma-digital-markets-act-details [07:16] TR Bot EU targets Big Tech with sweeping new antitrust legislation - The Verge [07:26] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [07:31] TR News Gulag once again misuses its power over the Gulag Ploy "store" https://torrentfreak.com/google-removes-popular-file-sharing-app-from-play-store-over-piracy-concerns-220324/ [07:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/google-removes-popular-file-sharing-app-from-play-store-over-piracy-concerns-220324/ [07:31] TR Bot Removes Popular File-Sharing App from Play Store Over Piracy Concerns * TorrentFreak [07:31] TR News GulagTube (Gulag) isn't being sued but those who rip are? Makes no sense. https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-appeal-83-million-piracy-verdict-220324/ [07:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/youtube-rippers-appeal-83-million-piracy-verdict-220324/ [07:31] TR Bot Rippers Appeal $83 Million Piracy Verdict * TorrentFreak [07:32] TR News It's not about children but about treating adults like toddlers https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/kids-online-safety-act-heavy-handed-plan-force-platforms-spy-young-people [07:32] TR Bot The Kids Online Safety Act Is a Heavy-Handed Plan to Force Platforms to Spy on Young People | Electronic Frontier Foundation [07:33] TR News "Too many schools across the state continue to use remote proctoring at its most invasive settings" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/03/stop-invasive-remote-proctoring-pass-californias-student-test-taker-privacy [07:33] TR Bot Stop Invasive Remote Proctoring: Pass Californias Student Test Taker Privacy Protection Act | Electronic Frontier Foundation [07:49] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.15 k/sec., IPFS upstream 33.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 295.95 ● Mar 25 [08:01] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:15] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@u6tbsk2f5y7xa.irc) has joined #techrights [08:15] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:15] *inky (~inky@5.77.146.191) has joined #techrights [08:15] TR News UK Government Data: How UK Mortality Rates Compare Pre- and Post-COVID-19 http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/25/post-covid-19-mortality/ [08:15] TR Bot Blog Archive UK Government Data: How UK Mortality Rates Compare Pre- and Post-COVID-19 [08:16] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:17] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:23] TR News So far this year only 7 people in the age range 0-14 died in England of Wales with/from COVID-19 (so far this year!). See sheet (7); compare to pneumonia in (4) http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022-deaths.ods [08:25] psydruid that's still more than I expected [08:25] TR News The vaccine patent pools wish to give barely-tested vaccines to over 10 million children because over the past 3-4 months COVID-19 killed 7 kids? Some of them did not even die from it but with it. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2022-deaths.ods [08:27] schestowitz-TR psydruid: 7? [08:27] schestowitz-TR it's less than one per week [08:27] schestowitz-TR some of them are in 8th grade [08:28] psydruid I would expect 0, so it's disheartening that any of them are dying [08:28] schestowitz-TR like I said, [08:28] schestowitz-TR some die with it [08:28] schestowitz-TR not from it [08:28] schestowitz-TR and remember they rarely have received a jab at all [08:28] schestowitz-TR say you administer it to 10 million kids [08:29] schestowitz-TR to save one per week [08:29] schestowitz-TR and you don't yet know the long-term side effects [08:29] schestowitz-TR maybe infertility or similar [08:30] TR News "Back in grad school, we biology students were talking shop at lunch one day." https://hackaday.com/2022/03/24/pispy-the-camera-setup-designed-to-make-biological-observations-better/ [08:30] TR Bot The Camera Setup Designed To Make Biological Observations Better | Hackaday [08:31] TR News "Formed less than a month after the 9/11 attacks in 2001, the TSA has yet to get a firm grip on transportation security, the thing that makes up two-thirds of its acronym." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/the-transportation-security-administration-is-now-screwing-up-cyber-security/ [08:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/the-transportation-security-administration-is-now-screwing-up-cyber-security/ [08:31] TR Bot Transportation Security Administration Is Now Screwing Up Cyber Security | Techdirt [08:32] TR News "In addition to a Surveillance Camera Commissioner, the UK has a Surveillance Camera Code of Practice, which it has updated recently" https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/surprisingly-the-uk-has-a-biometrics-and-surveillance-camera-commissioner-hes-rather-good/ [08:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: privateinternetaccess.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/surprisingly-the-uk-has-a-biometrics-and-surveillance-camera-commissioner-hes-rather-good/ [08:32] TR Bot Surprisingly, the UK Has a Biometrics and Surveillance Camera Commissioner: Hes Rather Good [08:34] TR News Boycott Starbucks https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/24/end-the-union-busting-and-obey-the-law-a-letter-to-starbucks-ceo-howard-schultz/ [08:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/24/end-the-union-busting-and-obey-the-law-a-letter-to-starbucks-ceo-howard-schultz/ [08:34] TR Bot the Union-Busting and Obey the Law: a Letter to Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz - CounterPunch.org [08:35] TR News Microphone Behind Every Mirror https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jargon-authenticity-belonging-dei/ [08:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/jargon-authenticity-belonging-dei/ [08:35] TR Bot A Mirror on Every Walland a Microphone Behind Every Mirror | The Nation [08:36] TR News If Minimum Wage Kept Up With Wall Street Bonuses, It Would Be $61.75 an Hour https://truthout.org/articles/if-minimum-wage-kept-up-with-wall-street-bonuses-it-would-be-61-75-an-hour/ [08:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/if-minimum-wage-kept-up-with-wall-street-bonuses-it-would-be-61-75-an-hour/ [08:36] TR Bot If Minimum Wage Kept Up With Wall Street Bonuses, It Would Be $61.75 an Hour [08:38] TR News Patents continues to kill millions of people for corporate profits (price-fixing) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/24/millions-lives-could-be-saved-ex-un-chief-demands-better-patent-waiver-deal [08:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/24/millions-lives-could-be-saved-ex-un-chief-demands-better-patent-waiver-deal [08:38] TR Bot 'Millions of Lives Could Be Saved': Ex-UN Chief Demands Better Patent Waiver Deal [08:40] TR News USA: we handed out 10 TRILLION dollars to corporations and oligarchs since COVID-19 started (at taxpayers' expense; debt we cannot even pay back), but we do nothing about the homeless https://www.thenation.com/article/society/america-housing-crisis/ [08:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/society/america-housing-crisis/ [08:40] TR Bot America Needs Social Housing | The Nation [08:40] TR News public transit https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/inflation-bus-public-transit/ [08:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/inflation-bus-public-transit/ [08:40] TR Bot Want to Fight Inflation? Take the Bus | The Nation [08:41] TR News "Wouldnt it be fascinating to hear from Ed about whats going on in Russia right now? Whats the low-down among the hoi polloi? Are they for the war? Agin it?" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/24/where-is-edward-snowden/ [08:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: counterpunch.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/24/where-is-edward-snowden/ [08:41] TR Bot is Edward Snowden? - CounterPunch.org [08:42] *Guest64 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:43] TR News SMART Copyright Act?? https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/creative-commons-tells-senators-to-stop-using-its-name-to-justify-dangerous-copyright-filters-bill/ [08:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/creative-commons-tells-senators-to-stop-using-its-name-to-justify-dangerous-copyright-filters-bill/ [08:43] TR Bot Commons Tells Senators To Stop Using Its Name To Justify Dangerous Copyright Filters Bill | Techdirt [08:44] TR News Robber barons running EU. "These includes theDigital Services Act, theDigital Markets Act, and theData Act." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/the-ratchet-even-demonstrably-ineffectual-and-unnecessary-copyright-laws-are-never-repealed/ [08:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/the-ratchet-even-demonstrably-ineffectual-and-unnecessary-copyright-laws-are-never-repealed/ [08:44] TR Bot Ratchet: Even Demonstrably Ineffectual And Unnecessary Copyright Laws Are Never Repealed | Techdirt [08:45] TR News Latest in Open Culture VOICES! VOICES https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/24/episode-16-open-culture-voices-neal-stimler/ https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/24/episode-15-open-culture-voices-rebecca-giblin/ [08:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: creativecommons.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://creativecommons.org/2022/03/24/episode-16-open-culture-voices-neal-stimler/ [08:45] TR Bot Episode 16: Open Culture VOICES Neal Stimler - Creative Commons [08:45] TR Bot Episode 15: Open Culture VOICES Rebecca Giblin - Creative Commons [08:46] TR News "For literally more than a decade researchers have been warning that global satellite telecommunications networks were vulnerable to all manner of attacks." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/avoidable-viasat-satellite-hack-causes-headaches-across-europe-and-ukraine/ [08:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/avoidable-viasat-satellite-hack-causes-headaches-across-europe-and-ukraine/ [08:46] TR Bot Viasat Satellite Hack Causes Headaches Across Europe And Ukraine | Techdirt [08:48] TR News "When someone asks me what DRM is, my answer is very simple: its anti-piracy software that generally doesnt stop pirates at all, and, instead, mostly only annoys legitimate buyers." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/owners-of-gran-turismo-7-locked-out-of-single-player-game-when-online-drm-servers-go-down/ [08:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/03/24/owners-of-gran-turismo-7-locked-out-of-single-player-game-when-online-drm-servers-go-down/ [08:48] TR Bot Of Gran Turismo 7 Locked Out Of Single Player Game When Online DRM Servers Go Down | Techdirt [08:54] TR News Nala: A Beautiful and Structured Front-end for the APT Command Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162964 [08:54] TR Bot Nala: A Beautiful and Structured Front-end for the APT Command | Tux Machines [08:54] TR News Proprietary Software and Security Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162965 [08:54] TR Bot Proprietary Software and Security | Tux Machines [08:56] TR News Links 24/03/2022: Steam on ChromeOS | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/steam-on-chromeos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/25/steam-on-chromeos/ [08:56] TR Bot Links 24/03/2022: Steam on ChromeOS | Techrights [08:56] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162966 [08:56] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [08:58] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D540.jpg [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 27.98 k/sec., IPFS upstream 61.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 304.80 ● Mar 25 [09:02] TR News FreeBSD 13.1-BETA3 Now Available Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162967 [09:02] TR Bot FreeBSD 13.1-BETA3 Now Available | Tux Machines [09:03] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [09:05] *gooseheaded has quit (connection closed) [09:05] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@sy7ss5msyeqgk.irc) has joined #techrights [09:07] XRevan86 DaemonFC: "I'm certain that unless the Russians have VPNs and read that the Orsk was blown up, there will certainly be nobody telling them about it, XRevan86" <- Yes, I don't think official Russian media (the only allowed kind of course) reported on that. [09:08] XRevan86 DaemonFC: "The average Russian has been on a declining standard of living since the USSR fell apart, and it wasn't that great to begin with." <- Oversimplification. [09:10] *gooseheaded_ (~gooseheaded@5jcujwvnbing8.irc) has joined #techrights [09:11] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:12] XRevan86 DaemonFC: "Russia would love to fuck everybody with food shortages and energy shortages, but they can't because they don't really have much else that the world wants to buy from them. The occasional neat hat, I suppose. Apologies to XRevan86." <- I agree. Successful business cannot thrive in Russia, even local IT is being suffocated. 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Source: tweet [10:04] XRevan86 schestowitz: Something like that :) [10:05] TR News I'm reading this as bad news spun as 'good' https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/566372575/as-purism-grows-founder-ceo-todd-weaver-transitions-role-of-president-to-kyle-rankin-vice-president-to-nicole-faerber [10:05] TR Bot As Purism Grows, Founder CEO Todd Weaver Transitions Role of President to Kyle Rankin & Vice-President to Nicole Faerber - EIN Presswire [10:08] XRevan86 schestowitz: A senator and an LDPR member wrote that in his Telegram channel. But later he removed the post. [10:08] schestowitz-TR jesus brought him back [10:08] schestowitz-TR he has 6 souls left [10:08] XRevan86 Ye had one job, Jesus. [10:09] schestowitz-TR "ENTER COIN TO PLAY AGAIN" [10:12] *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:14] TR News What is this, a new malware from CLOWNflare/Cloudflare? "Access was denied Error code 1020 You do not have access to www.linuxcapable.com. 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The patent cartel isn't interested in a permanent solution. https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21240-coronavirus-epidemic-is-not-yet-letting-up-says-ministry-o [10:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: helsinkitimes.fi | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21240-coronavirus-epidemic-is-not-yet-letting-up-says-ministry-o [10:42] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/21240-coronavirus-epidemic-is-not-yet-letting-up-says-ministry-o ) [10:43] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:50] TR News "community manager" = corporate kappo https://opensource.com/article/22/3/transparency-open-source-community-manager [10:50] TR Bot transparency as an open source community manager | Opensource.com [10:50] TR News Russell Coker: Wayland Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162970 [10:50] TR Bot Russell Coker: Wayland | Tux Machines [10:53] TR News COVID victim, one of a million+ Americans https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/pop-culture-news/stephen-wilhite-creator-gif-dies-74-rcna21287 [10:53] TR Bot Stephen Wilhite, creator of the GIF, dies at 74 [10:54] TR News So far 2022 has been less deadly overall than 2017 and 2018, based on official data http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/25/post-covid-19-mortality/ [10:54] TR Bot Blog Archive UK Government Data: How UK Mortality Rates Compare Pre- and Post-COVID-19 [10:57] *matey has quit (connection closed) [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.33 k/sec., IPFS upstream 53.15 average k/sec., average swarm size 273.36 ● Mar 25 [11:01] TR News Linux kernel: HID for 5.18 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/nycvar.YFH.7.76.2203231015060.24795@cbobk.fhfr.pm/ [11:01] TR Bot [GIT PULL] HID for 5.18 - Jiri Kosina [11:02] TR News "Various engineers that work on the Fedora Linux product line are brewing up a storm again. To find out more about their plans for world domination, check out this video!" https://fedoramagazine.org/march-of-the-penguins-or-how-the-os-vendors-get-their-ducks-in-a-row/ product line? ICBM? 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Read more [14:03] TR Bot What is the future of Linux Admins? - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [14:06] TR News My New Linux Desktop https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KIWaIVeXZXk "live" shortly... "Lets go over my new setup on Linux that I'm gaming on." [14:06] TR Bot ( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KIWaIVeXZXk ) [14:07] TR News "The Steam Deck is a brilliant little piece of kit. But as I sit here playing with my Deck all day, I get more and more frustrated by what it *could* be, but simply is not yet." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qstjQZJqHTI [14:07] TR Bot The Steam Deck's software is still broken. 10 fixes and features we need YESTERDAY. - Invidious [14:08] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:08] TR News "Along the Edge is a visual novel set in the European countryside, where your choices impact the main character's personality and appearance." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/along-the-edge-gets-some-nice-improvements-to-be-steam-deck-ready [14:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/along-the-edge-gets-some-nice-improvements-to-be-steam-deck-ready [14:08] TR Bot the Edge gets some nice improvements to be Steam Deck ready | GamingOnLinux [14:08] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:09] TR News "Today we will discuss the routine topic- What is the future of Linux Admins. Based upon my personal work experience, this is a very common question which is asked by people." https://unixcop.com/what-is-the-future-of-linux-admins/ [14:10] TR News DEMON'S TILT gets updated for Steam Deck to solve graphical issues | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/demons-tilt-gets-updated-for-steam-deck-to-solve-graphical-issues Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [14:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/demons-tilt-gets-updated-for-steam-deck-to-solve-graphical-issues [14:10] TR Bot TILT gets updated for Steam Deck to solve graphical issues | GamingOnLinux [14:11] TR News "On Steam, one of the official Valve-picked moderators of the Steam Deck hub has a new post up they've pinned to gather information on problematic Steam Deck Verified titles." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-gathering-a-list-of-deck-verified-games-that-have-problems [14:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/valve-gathering-a-list-of-deck-verified-games-that-have-problems [14:11] TR Bot gathering a list of Deck Verified games that have problems | GamingOnLinux [14:12] TR News "Gamescope, for those not aware, is a Wayland compositor originally forked from the older SteamOS 2 compositor. 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Same critics: RMS is too radical, he's not accepting proprietary software. Make up your minds, critics.... [14:15] TR News "This development cycle extends the subsystem to discover CXL resources throughout a CXL/PCIe switch topology and respond to hot add/remove events anywhere in that topology." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=b9132c32e01976686efa26252cc246944a0d2cab [14:15] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [14:16] TR News Hacker language preferences change with the times - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/hacker_language_study/ Source: theregister [14:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/hacker_language_study/ [14:16] TR Bot Hacker language preferences change with the times The Register [14:16] *gooseheaded_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:17] *inky_ (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [14:17] *matey (~matey@zpv6niytxp9fu.irc) has joined #techrights [14:20] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:21] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:42] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [14:42] matey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gna!#History [14:42] TR Bot Gna! - Wikipedia [14:48] MinceR at least it isn't GNAA [14:49] TR News Mozilla adds tiered subscription plans to MDN Web Docs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162958#comment-33188 [14:49] TR Bot Firefox: AV1, Fixes, Addons, Changes, and Upselling MDN | Tux Machines [14:51] TR News Proprietary SCADA with Window https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/four-russian-government-employees-charged-two-historical-hacking-campaigns-targeting-critical [14:51] TR Bot Four Russian Government Employees Charged in Two Historical Hacking Campaigns Targeting Critical Infrastructure Worldwide | OPA | Department of Justice [14:52] matey it is, theres a gna archive from archive team [14:52] TR News Improve usability for amd-pstate https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pm/20220325054228.5247-1-mario.limonciello@amd.com/ [14:52] TR Bot [PATCH 0/3] Improve usability for amd-pstate - Mario Limonciello [14:54] matey /me no longer tracks the gnu projects drift towards github, systemd and corporate control [14:54] matey i track the entire fucking free software directory (tens of thousands of projects) now [14:55] matey ("ffsd" is a good acronym for it) [14:56] TR News ProtonMail will release a desktop app for Windows, macOS and Linux - gHacks Tech News https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/25/protonmail-desktop-app-for-windows-macos-and-linux/ Source: ghacks [14:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: ghacks.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/03/25/protonmail-desktop-app-for-windows-macos-and-linux/ [14:56] TR Bot ProtonMail will release a desktop app for Windows, macOS and Linux - gHacks Tech News [14:56] matey every month or two the fsd adds between 5 and 10 new projects that ARENT github based [14:56] matey and quite a few more that are github based [14:57] matey gnu itself is fucked [14:58] matey when stallman talks this april, there will be more things that arent said than things that are [14:58] matey i will be more confirmation of what we already know [14:58] matey it would be a coup (oh, sorry) if he mentions actual progress on even one front [14:59] matey if we are really cynical, it wont even be about free software, just "state of the fsf" ● Mar 25 [15:00] matey but im sure some project will be mentioned. maybe big blue button [15:01] TR News Multi-core Arduino and Linux for enterprise IoT http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162945#comment-33189 [15:01] TR Bot Portenta X8 is the first Linux Arduino board | Tux Machines [15:01] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162980 [15:01] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:01] MinceR :) [15:01] TR News Games: Desktop, Console, and Gamescope Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162981 [15:01] TR Bot Games: Desktop, Console, and Gamescope | Tux Machines [15:01] matey big blue button, the fsfs pet project-- a monument to open source [15:02] matey wait, i mean free software [15:02] matey no, i meant open source: https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/ [15:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: bigbluebutton.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/ [15:02] TR Bot BigBlueButton Developers | Integrate BigBlueButton With Your LMS [15:02] TR News "PgBouncer 1.17.0 has been released. This release contains some new functionality and important fixes. Database definitions can now specify host lists. The maximum length of passwords has been increased again. Support for OpenSSL 3 has been fixed." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgbouncer-1170-released-2426/ [15:02] TR Bot PostgreSQL: PgBouncer 1.17.0 released [15:02] matey "Open Source The source code for BigBlueButton is hosted at GitHub. You can fork the code and extend BigBlueButton for your needs." [15:02] matey the fsf LOVES big blue button [15:03] matey because unlike skype, which is controlled by microsoft [15:03] matey big blue button is controlled by... for fucks sake [15:04] matey big blue button, a monument to free s " [15:04] matey Open-source and developer friendly [15:04] matey "The community strives for collaboration amongst developers and have built in-depth documentation [15:04] matey to make it easy to setup, develop and integrate BigBlueButton into existing products.the https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/ page mentions free software exactly zero times [15:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: bigbluebutton.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/ [15:05] matey and open source 3 times [15:05] matey maybe they should move the page to https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/ [15:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: bigbluebutton.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://bigbluebutton.org/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/developers/ [15:05] matey why make such a big deal out of bbb? its all i ever hear the fsf talk about [15:06] matey "our new flagship is an 'open source' application developed on microsoft github. but we prefer to use the term 'free software'" [15:06] matey they can change the name to the "call it free software foundation" [15:06] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/817768.jpg [15:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/817768.jpg [15:06] *CrystalMath (~coderain@fjnua4vbj783q.irc) has joined #techrights [15:07] matey jami at least, is not github-based [15:07] TR News Building an RC car with my son - Random [Tech] Stuff https://koutoupis.com/2022/03/25/building-an-rc-car-with-my-son/ Source: koutoupis [15:07] matey so theyre on the right track there [15:07] TR Bot Building an RC car with my son Random [Tech] Stuff [15:07] TR News LibreOffice ecosystem interview: Michael Meeks at Collabora Productivity Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162982 [15:07] TR Bot LibreOffice ecosystem interview: Michael Meeks at Collabora Productivity | Tux Machines [15:09] TR News "I'm a Red Hat technical account manager (TAM). A few months ago, a customer contacted me about a major outage when system boot drives failed on dozens of hypervisor systems at four different sitessimultaneously." https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/strong-teams-embrace-open-culture [15:09] TR Bot Want a stronger team? Embrace open culture | Enable Sysadmin [15:10] TR News "The diffoscope maintainers are pleased to announce the release of diffoscope version 208." https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-208-released/ [15:10] TR Bot diffoscope 208 released [15:10] TR News "Purpose of this team is to take care of day to day business regarding CentOS and Fedora Infrastructure and Fedora release engineering work." Not much left of these; ICBM demolishes itself. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-of-march-21st-25th/ [15:10] TR Bot CPE Weekly Update - Week of March 21st - 25th Fedora Community Blog [15:13] matey i also track gnu developers and their use of github-- right now thats focused on admins of non-github-based gnu projects (who use github for other things) [15:13] matey and thats not reassuring either. youd think gnu developers, if anyone, would know better than to outsource to microsoft [15:13] matey you would of course be wrong [15:13] matey its not the hypocrisy angle im going for here [15:13] schestowitz-TR gnu fs directory links a lot to GH [15:13] matey its the sheer apathy [15:14] matey gnu fs directory links a lot to GH <- yes, theres a reason for that [15:14] matey most free software is based on github. [15:14] matey its much more than half. [15:14] TR News Stark-black theme for pending EasyOS 3.4.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162725#comment-33190 [15:14] TR Bot EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.3 | Tux Machines [15:15] matey if i had to guess, based on what i know [15:15] matey its between 3/5 and 4/5 [15:15] TR News "Anyone using DBD::Oracle is invited to test out out this dev release v1.90_1" http://blogs.perl.org/users/dean/2022/03/please-test-dbdoracle-v190-1.html [15:15] TR Bot test DBD::Oracle v1.90_1 | dean [blogs.perl.org] [15:15] matey thats just based on the fsd [15:16] matey microsoft practically owns gnu/linux [15:16] schestowitz-TR but those are smaller bits of software [15:16] matey and the gnu developers [15:16] schestowitz-TR the very large ones like gcc and linux can afford their own hosting [15:16] matey but those are smaller bits of software <- yeah, that was my assumption 2 or 3 years ago [15:16] schestowitz-TR the smaller you go, the higher the likelihood of outsourcing [15:16] matey the very large ones like gcc and linux <- do you even know where gcc is based? [15:16] matey the smaller you go, the higher the likelihood of outsourcing <- in correct [15:17] matey the larger projects are mostly on github [15:17] matey name a project, go ahead [15:17] schestowitz-TR solaris [15:17] schestowitz-TR projectindiana [15:17] schestowitz-TR openbsd [15:17] schestowitz-TR is freebsd core on GH already? [15:17] matey all operating sytems with no connection to gnu or fsf [15:17] matey openbsd only mirrors [15:17] schestowitz-TR another point is, [15:18] schestowitz-TR many are there for legacy reasons [15:18] matey freebsd package manager is gh [15:18] schestowitz-TR whereas newer projects think twice and consider alternatives [15:18] schestowitz-TR if Microsoft PAYS them, it's not a suestainable strategy [15:18] schestowitz-TR because the operational costs too are high [15:18] matey youre describing factors that are real [15:18] matey and i think youre overemphasising them [15:18] schestowitz-TR we need to push in the same direction [15:19] schestowitz-TR to grind away at "the machine" [15:19] schestowitz-TR it won't be knocked over in one push [15:19] schestowitz-TR we managed to oust some managers there [15:19] schestowitz-TR and it's seen in a very negative light [15:19] matey there is no grinding [15:19] matey its more like a soft gentle breeze [15:19] schestowitz-TR but think long ter, say 5 years, and the competition will gnaw away [15:19] matey now a soft breeze, over the course of many thousands of years, will grind away rock [15:19] schestowitz-TR matey: at what cost? [15:20] schestowitz-TR they waste loads of money on this [15:20] schestowitz-TR like bribing people with 'free' things [15:20] matey the numbers do not reflect your optimism [15:20] matey whatsoever [15:20] schestowitz-TR Actions, storage, etc. [15:20] matey microsoft has worked for 20 years to gain a monopoly on free software development [15:20] schestowitz-TR show me the numbers [15:20] schestowitz-TR 2022 [15:20] schestowitz-TR matey: that's a shame then [15:20] schestowitz-TR because they failed [15:21] schestowitz-TR and they spent lots of money trying [15:21] schestowitz-TR Novell 2006 [15:21] schestowitz-TR this is not a new strategy [15:21] schestowitz-TR they keep buying things that fail [15:21] matey no, its a 100-year old strategy [15:21] schestowitz-TR and meanwhile Windows is clobbered [15:21] matey and its 100 years old because if it didnt work, they would abandon it [15:21] matey meanwhile Windows is clobbered <- sure [15:21] matey thats good [15:21] schestowitz-TR OSI and LF are being cut off like a tumour [15:22] schestowitz-TR because the real community is starting to see what those are [15:22] matey sfc is gaining traction [15:22] schestowitz-TR OSI membershi is down to the point where it's like 3% (nby now) of the money coming from actual people [15:22] matey sfc has git itself [15:22] schestowitz-TR SFC just picks up some pieces [15:22] matey qemu, inkscape [15:22] schestowitz-TR SFC is mostly 2 people [15:22] matey busybox [15:22] schestowitz-TR maybe they hired a few more [15:23] schestowitz-TR Tom and some troll [15:23] matey sfc is mostly two people <- of those "2 people" 4 board members signed the anti-stallman letter [15:23] schestowitz-TR SFC is not significant [15:23] matey sfc is not significant <- this is a good example of you downplaying threats [15:23] matey for what? chestbeating? [15:23] schestowitz-TR matey: a shame then... as they failed [15:23] schestowitz-TR RMS is still there [15:23] matey the purpose of cancelling rms was only to get him under control [15:24] matey which they did [15:24] matey it doesnt matter where he is, as long as he doesnt get in their way [15:24] schestowitz-TR >> 4 board members signed the anti-stallman letter [15:24] schestowitz-TR Yes, they are "competiting" [15:24] matey you said sfc is mostly two people [15:24] schestowitz-TR They want share [15:24] schestowitz-TR FSF is their rival [15:24] schestowitz-TR like SFLC [15:24] matey have a look at their board pate [15:24] matey page [15:24] matey and their staff page [15:24] schestowitz-TR and they tongue-in-cheek 'help [15:25] schestowitz-TR more like snakes [15:25] matey and their member projects [15:25] schestowitz-TR that's why bkuhn got pushed out of tyhe FSF [15:25] schestowitz-TR matey: they have lots of phantom staff [15:25] schestowitz-TR go to irs.gov. [15:25] schestowitz-TR put in their names [15:25] schestowitz-TR the board members are not salaried [15:25] matey the sfc board-- you said sfc is like 2 people [15:26] matey https://sfconservancy.org/about/board/ [15:26] TR Bot Directors - Software Freedom Conservancy [15:26] matey includes the former vp of creative commons [15:26] matey jeremy allison of samba fame [15:26] matey and all in all, the board has 10 people [15:26] matey thats just the board-- probably not fulltimers [15:26] TR News From the 2016 talks description: In honor of Software Freedom Day 2016, Richard Stallman gives a brief primer of free software, including where you can get more information and how to help. http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/rms-software-freedom-day-2016/ [15:26] TR Bot Richard Stallman Explains Free (as in Freedom-Respecting) Software | Techrights [15:27] matey the staff include sage sharp https://sfconservancy.org/about/staff/ [15:27] TR Bot Staff - Software Freedom Conservancy [15:27] matey and its 6 people [15:27] TR News EPO staff is abused and its right to go on strike is curtailed in spite of ILOATs role and 2021 ruling; but Antnio Campinos continues to enjoy immunity, so he laughs all the way to the bank while breaking laws http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/squashing-epo-staff/ [15:27] TR Bot [Meme] EPO Management Treats EPO Staff Like Pests | Techrights [15:27] matey but that wasnt my point, that was just my response to "sfc is 2 people" [15:27] TR News our years (in 3 months) into his term Antnio Campinos shows that hes happy to violate laws and ignore court rulings, just like Benot Battistelli did; being patient with liars helps the liars http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/epo-meme-diplomatic-immunity/ [15:27] TR Bot [Meme] Diplomatic Immunity | Techrights [15:27] matey this was my point: https://sfconservancy.org/projects/ [15:27] TR Bot Project Membership in Software Freedom Conservancy [15:27] matey actually this https://sfconservancy.org/projects/current/ [15:27] TR Bot Current Projects - Software Freedom Conservancy [15:28] matey buildbot. busybox. [15:28] matey coreboot. [15:28] matey the package manager for haskell (darcs) [15:28] schestowitz-TR they were two people years ago [15:28] schestowitz-TR maybe that gre a bit [15:28] schestowitz-TR some are part timers [15:28] schestowitz-TR at work I see this all the time [15:28] matey etherpad. GIT. godot. [15:29] schestowitz-TR one-man shops and smal companies pretending to be like 3 time bigger [15:29] schestowitz-TR by adding names of people to web pages [15:29] matey inkscape. openwrt. [15:29] schestowitz-TR they just do financing for them [15:29] schestowitz-TR not much more [15:29] matey qemu. racket. these are big names [15:29] schestowitz-TR like funneling money, tax-free [15:29] matey they just do financing for the <- JUST? [15:29] schestowitz-TR SFC is a bit of an accounting firm [15:29] schestowitz-TR OSI does the same [15:29] schestowitz-TR with ShitHub [15:30] schestowitz-TR to the tune of $250,000 a year [15:30] matey selenium. wine. [15:30] schestowitz-TR SFC is a lot less important than you make it [15:30] schestowitz-TR they hardly produce anything [15:30] schestowitz-TR except lawsuits [15:30] schestowitz-TR same for OSI [15:30] matey microsoft hardly produces anything except lawsuits. [15:30] schestowitz-TR their licence aprooval process is a joke [15:30] schestowitz-TR and has been mostly decimated [15:31] schestowitz-TR SFC is still small potatoes [15:31] matey the point is, these are projects that claim to care about users [15:31] schestowitz-TR and in some areas it's on the same side as us [15:31] schestowitz-TR like helping to find some developers, as you nopted above (projects) [15:31] matey but they sidle right up the coup instead [15:31] schestowitz-TR they are helping the project raise money without going through tons of IRS paperwork [15:32] schestowitz-TR matey: they are both [15:32] schestowitz-TR they hurt us [15:32] schestowitz-TR but they help soime projetcs [15:32] schestowitz-TR same as LF [15:32] schestowitz-TR LF does some GOOD things too [15:32] schestowitz-TR not many, but SOME [15:32] schestowitz-TR if LF goes away, the projects will find a way [15:32] matey people wont be fooled forever [15:32] matey but wnen they stop kidding themselves [15:32] schestowitz-TR many are not [15:32] schestowitz-TR LF has a MASSIVE PR issue [15:32] matey theyll realise: users have been sold out [15:33] schestowitz-TR and it makes it known [15:33] matey LF has a MASSIVE PR issue <- so does sfc [15:33] schestowitz-TR they try hard to hide some things [15:33] schestowitz-TR Zemlin deleted ALL his tweets [15:33] matey so does github [15:33] matey youre talking about pr issues-- what about the github expose? [15:33] schestowitz-TR it's still ongoing [15:33] schestowitz-TR I have tons of material on them [15:33] matey pr issues are handled by marketing and communications people [15:33] schestowitz-TR the latest is, de icaza is over [15:33] matey I have tons of material on them <- its not moving people away [15:34] schestowitz-TR IU don't expect we'll hear from him any time soon [15:34] matey de icaza is over <- github does not depend on him [15:34] matey it doesnt depend on nat either [15:34] schestowitz-TR indirectly it does [15:34] schestowitz-TR the .NET cult [15:34] matey very indirectly [15:34] schestowitz-TR look, we could go on for hours like this [15:34] matey yes [15:34] schestowitz-TR you be liiiike, "man, you ain't changing shit" [15:35] schestowitz-TR me: well, actually... [15:35] matey its not that [15:35] schestowitz-TR and it goes like that in a loop [15:35] matey no, you downplay the problem [15:35] schestowitz-TR you can destroy a small shop with enough effort [15:35] schestowitz-TR if you tackle ICBM, you can gring away at them for decades [15:35] schestowitz-TR same for Microsoft and Gulag [15:35] matey which brings us back to gcc [15:35] matey ibm hosts gcc and gdb [15:35] schestowitz-TR or EPO or the patent system as a whole [15:36] matey and moglens statement on what they were doing does not inspire optimism [15:36] schestowitz-TR url? [15:36] matey even though the fsf downplays the issue [15:36] matey let me get you the url [15:37] schestowitz-TR ICBM has tried 'canceling' me foir years [15:37] schestowitz-TR and failed [15:37] matey https://www.softwarefreedom.org/blog/2021/jun/02/gcc-statement/ " The effect of this change, as the GCC Steering Committee states, is to loosen the bonds between FSF and the GCC projects" [15:37] TR Bot GCC Drops Requirement of Copyright Assignment to FSF - Software Freedom Law Center [15:37] schestowitz-TR they apparently trried to remove me from twitter months ago [15:37] matey as far as i know it was red hat that did that [15:37] matey and you still use their distribution [15:37] schestowitz-TR icbm might stillm offload red hat at one point [15:37] schestowitz-TR but a lot of the talent already left [15:38] matey this is very handwavey [15:38] matey again, ibm controls gcc and gdb [15:38] matey the fsf doesnt even host it [15:38] matey hasnt for years [15:38] matey they outsource, precisely unlike what you said [15:39] matey llvm: microsoft [15:39] matey gcc: ibm [15:39] matey i didnt move to free software just to have the same two companies i left control everything [15:39] matey its a bloody farce [15:39] matey and its not improving [15:39] matey of course it will some day [15:40] matey apathy has reigned for literally years now [15:40] schestowitz-TR tech IN GENREAL isnot improving [15:40] matey the developers dont even care [15:40] schestowitz-TR we went back to boiling water on the hob [15:40] schestowitz-TR because electric kettles are shit quality [15:40] schestowitz-TR and last barely a year [15:40] schestowitz-TR as for PCs [15:40] schestowitz-TR look what they turn into [15:40] schestowitz-TR TPM, Pluton, 'secure' boot [15:40] matey this is capitalism in decay [15:40] schestowitz-TR FSF is barely keeping up [15:40] matey FSF is barely keeping up <- yes [15:40] schestowitz-TR matey: yes, because ordinary homes in the US would not buy a $100 kettle [15:41] schestowitz-TR made in USA [15:41] schestowitz-TR they buy plastyic stuff made in china over at walmart or amazon [15:41] matey i boil water in a pan [15:41] matey its a small pan, its slower than a kettle but not by much [15:41] schestowitz-TR like buying sachet of toothpaste, not a tube [15:41] schestowitz-TR because "it's cheaper" [15:41] matey this is how i make all the tea i drink [15:42] matey the pan was probably made 20 or 30 years ago [15:42] matey no coating [15:42] matey got it used [15:42] matey no metal either [15:43] matey tempered glass [15:43] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D540.jpghttps://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/ [15:43] schestowitz oops [15:43] schestowitz https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/ [15:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/ [15:43] TR Bot Mozilla adds tiered subscription plans to MDN Web Docs The Register [15:43] matey good old mozilla [15:43] schestowitz mozilla in decay [15:43] matey understatement [15:43] TR News Parrot 5.0 Security OS Released with Linux Kernel 5.16, New Hacking Tools, and LTS Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162983 [15:44] TR Bot Parrot 5.0 Security OS Released with Linux Kernel 5.16, New Hacking Tools, and LTS Support | Tux Machines [15:44] TR News Software: Diffoscope, PgBouncer, and ProtonMail Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162984 [15:44] TR Bot Software: Diffoscope, PgBouncer, and ProtonMail | Tux Machines [15:44] schestowitz first VPNs, not this [15:44] matey mozilla has gone insane and its in a tower taking shots at people [15:44] schestowitz off the books: lowering the salary of Baker [15:45] XRevan86 Putin's polittechnologists found another theme: Cancel Culture [15:45] schestowitz Mozilla stated acting like it's a Silicon Valley (Pentagon@SF) firm [15:45] schestowitz and speaks similarly [15:45] matey oh good, cancel culture has found the right wing [15:46] matey the ultra left always ends up siding with the capitalists [15:46] schestowitz XRevan86: it's when Putler changes his mind and presses cancel on the lunch of nuke [15:46] schestowitz *launch [15:48] activelow reminder, last reports were _both_ the Ukraine _and_ the Russian pipelines continued deliver gas [15:48] activelow conclude for yourself, what to think about "western values" [15:49] matey its got less to do with the west than it has to do with megacorporations [15:49] activelow dumping weapons and cash into both Russia and Ukraine, and brothers shooting each other (according to the reports) [15:49] matey of course theyre western megacorporations, theres no question of that [15:49] matey but samsung isnt any better [15:50] matey saudi arabia is west? [15:50] matey its connected through megacorporations [15:50] matey your geographical picture of the problem is at cga resolution [15:50] activelow good question, who is pulling the strings [15:50] activelow RAND Corp. USA [15:51] matey not just rand [15:51] activelow aiming for the top [15:51] matey the companies that profit from this are literally all over the earth [15:51] matey its only east/west in terms of political borders [15:52] matey but the political borders really dont show where its coming from [15:52] activelow you can't just throw a word at it, corporations, and consider the situation explained [15:52] matey its coming from the megacorporations, and theyre all over [15:52] matey you can't just throw a word at it, corporations, and consider the situation explained <- are you fucking kidding me? the word you throw at it is "west" [15:52] activelow who are the political and economic affiliates then? [15:52] activelow i can tell you: "Atlantic Bridge", RAND Corp., USA/NATO, EU [15:52] TR News Links 25/03/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta 3 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/freebsd-13-1-beta-3/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/25/freebsd-13-1-beta-3/ [15:52] matey thats part of it [15:52] TR Bot Links 25/03/2022: FreeBSD 13.1 Beta 3 | Techrights [15:53] matey but youre in germany, which depends on pudding gas [15:53] matey which is fine [15:53] matey but it changes the way things are reported [15:53] matey so you get a lot more of that part of the story [15:53] matey but its still just part of the story [15:54] TR News IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162985 [15:54] TR Bot IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:54] matey of course this is all about nato if youre dependent on russia for energy [15:54] matey and even if youre not, nato is part of it [15:54] TR News Programmers and Programming Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162986 [15:54] TR Bot Programmers and Programming | Tux Machines [15:54] matey go back 90 years and its very different [15:55] activelow https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Mitgliedern_der_Atlantik-Br%C3%BCcke [15:55] TR Bot Liste von Mitgliedern der Atlantik-Brcke Wikipedia [15:55] matey einstein was leaving your country to tell nato to make the bom before hitler did [15:55] matey so blame einstein for nato [15:55] matey but either way, it all got taken over by megacorporations [15:55] matey so its not about defending the world from hitler anymore [15:55] matey its about money [15:55] matey money and power [15:55] matey not defence [15:55] matey and what about russia? defence? [15:55] matey fuck no-- its about money and power [15:56] schestowitz-TR true [15:56] schestowitz-TR not just war [15:56] schestowitz-TR to the "ruling class", it's about power through money and through other means [15:56] activelow obviously not the Ruble, as we know since recently [15:56] schestowitz-TR while it's true not everyone livs for money [15:56] schestowitz-TR the latter group plays a weak role in affairs [15:57] schestowitz-TR which leaves just rich sociopaths running the world to the abyss [15:57] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/jk_rowling/status/1507364792834666511 heh [15:57] TR Bot J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling): "Critiques of Western cancel culture are possibly not best made by those currently slaughtering civilians for the crime of resistance, or who jail and poison their critics. #IStandWithUkraine https://bbc.in/3tBRsED" | nitter [15:57] XRevan86 Putin didn't get an ally there. [15:58] schestowitz-TR BillBC straw man [15:58] schestowitz-TR next you might see bill moaning that hanging out with sex traffickers isn't "worse than stealing a bagel" [15:58] schestowitz-TR and that he is THE victim of "cancel culture" ● Mar 25 [16:00] matey money didnt help her looks [16:00] matey she looks like a republican now [16:00] activelow currently, they are blaming Russians (and Ukraine), for reliably delivering Oil/Gas/Energy... as if it was the fault of the Russians, economy relies on it [16:00] matey she was alright before [16:01] matey she needs to get a pair of sarah palin glasses [16:03] matey and that he is THE victim of "cancel culture" <- apparently then "cancel culture" is when you hang stallman to distract people from your friendship with epstein and it backfires spectacularly [16:03] matey though we still arent there yet [16:03] matey i know its getting bad for him [16:04] schestowitz matey: don't worry, the SFC will set up the letter soin [16:04] schestowitz in github [16:04] schestowitz with typescript [16:05] schestowitz like the last time [16:05] schestowitz asking to remove bill gates [16:05] schestowitz it's coming, it's coming [16:05] schestowitz i just know it... [16:05] matey well youre very silly [16:05] schestowitz programming with microsoft [16:05] matey cancel culture is rooted in hypocrisy and double standards-- they dont have to do anything [16:05] schestowitz hosting: microsoft [16:05] matey just because they did last time, it means nothing [16:05] schestowitz sponsor: microsoft [16:05] schestowitz target: RMS [16:05] schestowitz not: bill gates [16:05] matey consistency? that would imply a lack of double standards [16:06] matey though open source does eat their own [16:06] schestowitz OSI is dying [16:06] matey and open source seems to be the only game in town [16:06] schestowitz they did an election [16:06] schestowitz pretended to still matter [16:06] schestowitz 3 people left [16:06] matey i dont mean osi, osis been dead for a year or two [16:06] schestowitz inc. 2 very prominent ones [16:06] schestowitz the anti-RMS elements I might add [16:06] matey you misunderstand what happened to osi though [16:06] matey osi didnt just die [16:06] matey it was abandoned [16:06] schestowitz yeah [16:07] schestowitz and then it's just a bunch of pieces [16:07] schestowitz no phipps or simmons or italo or masson [16:07] schestowitz so who is LEFT? [16:07] schestowitz two italians, some women whose name I never heard before, and clearlydefined Microsoft [16:07] schestowitz Microsoft in siguise [16:07] schestowitz *disguise [16:07] matey osi has emptied itself into the alternatives [16:08] schestowitz gulag and icbm are there too, but they have less of a stake [16:08] matey github, fsf, clearlyredefined, lf, sfc [16:08] schestowitz microsoft has more to gain from hijacking osi [16:08] schestowitz and try to salvage share for shithub [16:08] schestowitz lf is becoming diploma mills [16:08] schestowitz because it's hard to bring people to events [16:08] matey lf will do what osi did [16:09] matey empty itself into alternatives [16:09] schestowitz so revenue sources are corporate bribes and now they try to see "courses" [16:09] matey of course [16:09] schestowitz *to sell [16:09] schestowitz brb [16:09] schestowitz recording a video [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.71 k/sec., IPFS upstream 11.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 296.15 [16:28] psydruid courses for dying or defunct software [16:28] psydruid exactly what we need [16:29] psydruid might as well learn to use and administer windows then [16:29] psydruid an equally dying or defunct piece of malware [16:46] matey might as well learn to use and administer windows then <- or systemd [16:47] matey sysvinit: "i quit!" [16:47] matey admins " [16:47] matey "okay, ill use something else then" [16:47] matey systemd: "NO YOU WONT!" [16:47] matey there wont be anything else [16:47] matey buzz poettering: "systemd, systemd everywhere" [16:48] matey join ibm and share the software [16:50] matey we control freedom 3 with move fast and break everything [16:53] matey join use now and rewrite everything in rust [16:53] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@65845c6n2223k.irc) has joined #techrights [16:54] matey hi [16:54] SomeH4x0r hi [16:57] psydruid systemd systemd systemd developers developers developers [16:57] matey of course its not just systemd [16:58] matey theyre playing an increasingly popular game [16:58] matey gnome does it too [16:58] matey rust is doing it [16:58] matey the linux kernel will do it [16:58] matey if it doesnt already [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 29.93 k/sec., IPFS upstream 36.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 298.48 [16:59] matey pretending to care while caring less and less isnt a new game [16:59] matey at microsoft, we <3ing care [16:59] matey and if you dont believe us, you can go <3 yourselves [16:59] matey look at all the <3s ibm gives too ● Mar 25 [17:00] matey microsoft f<3 linux [17:02] matey join us now and f<3 all the software [17:02] matey youll be f<3 hackers, youll be f<3d [17:03] matey sponsors may have lots of money, that is true, hackers, that is true [17:03] matey but they cannot uproot our culture [17:03] matey like theyve done, hackers, like theyve done [17:03] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7x8snfm4r58h8.irc) has joined #techrights [17:03] matey stallman did this, to stop a takeover [17:03] matey years ago, hackers-- years ago... [17:03] matey then they did it, a few decades later [17:04] matey thats not good, hackers, thats not good [17:05] psydruid spread the <3 [17:05] psydruid with a <3 embrace [17:05] psydruid born to be <3 [17:07] matey the real triumph of open source is this [17:07] matey they got everyone to shit on freedom [17:07] matey and worship developers [17:07] matey so THANK YOU for writing software [17:07] matey and THANK YOU AGAIN for not making it a "religious" thing [17:07] matey and voila, today we have developers who are very apathetic about freedom [17:08] matey to the point where they are willing to settle for a watered down, static version of it that ignores anything new that gafam throws at it [17:08] matey its everything open source wanted. cheap labour and apathy towards takeover [17:09] matey apathy that is, when they dont welcome their new corporate mains [17:09] psydruid what is boggling the mind is the dismissal of anything that isn't created or "improved" by gafam [17:09] matey i mean thats what happens when gnu moves to github [17:09] matey even roy says github has a thing where github matters, nothing else counts [17:10] psydruid as if you aren't a real developer if you aren't in on the gafam agenda [17:10] matey the closer everyone gets to the corporate cult, they more they drink the koolaid [17:10] matey microsoft: JUST THE TIP! [17:10] matey pretty soon github and gnu are having babies [17:10] psydruid if that is the case then independent development is screwed [17:11] matey then independent development is screwed <- for the moment, yes [17:11] matey but thats okay! because SOMEDAY! etc [17:11] matey i mean its not okay [17:11] psydruid because that's for "hobbyists" and "hackers" [17:11] matey well thank god for hobbyists and hackers [17:11] psydruid not "serious" and "professional" developers [17:11] matey like the wright brothers, and sam zeloof [17:12] DaemonFC https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/24/22994814/apple-iphone-hardware-subscription-bundle-report [17:12] TR Bot Apple will reportedly sell the iPhone as a subscription service - The Verge [17:12] DaemonFC Apple wants to make the iPhone a monthly subscription so you can't stop paying once you have one. [17:12] matey just like microsoft word and adobe everything [17:13] DaemonFC I suppose there's no practical difference though. [17:13] matey pay through the nose or pay out the arse [17:14] DaemonFC The carriers change their mobile networks often enough and then threaten you that if you don't buy a new phone yours doesn't work anymore. [17:14] DaemonFC My Galaxy S20 didn't even last a year and a half! [17:15] matey after the workers unionise, the customers should as well [17:15] matey then instead of a boycott, its a customers strike [17:16] DaemonFC Apple has taken a cue from Big Tobacco again. [17:16] DaemonFC Raise the price to $14 a pack. [17:16] DaemonFC The majority who were paying $5 will pay $14, and even if you lost half your customers, you still make more money. [17:16] matey they already have a legion of chainswipers [17:17] psydruid customers don't complain because they want "working" software in the first place, as freedom isn't the first thing on their mind [17:17] matey customers do complain, but then the companies lie and the customers believe it [17:17] matey and the last part shouldnt be true [17:17] psydruid not realizing they're painting themselves into a corner that way [17:17] matey but if it werent, there would be pitchforks and torches [17:17] psydruid yeah [17:18] DaemonFC Android is on the verge of becoming a 90%+ marketshare product. [17:18] DaemonFC But Apple is fine with having less than 10% if it can SQUEEZE SQUEEZE SQUEEZE the idiots who stay behind. [17:18] matey apple: *applies copious amounts of chrome-coloured duct tape* "there, i fixed it!" [17:19] DaemonFC Pretty much all of the reasons to actually own an iPhone, namely that Android is full of crapware, is unstable and janky, and full of bugs, and is confusing, do not apply to Pixel phones by Google. [17:19] matey microsoft: *appies the duck tape directly to the customers* "there, try and leave!" [17:19] DaemonFC I rather like my Pixel and it costs just 40% or so of what the iPhone does. It's very fast and coherent and I haven't really had trouble with bugs like I used to with Samsung. [17:20] MinceR unfortunately hypeOS is itself crapware full of bugs, is insecure and lacks smartphone functionality [17:20] psydruid crapOS is just the same for desktops [17:21] DaemonFC If it wouldn't give Google full control over my web browsing experience, I may buy a laptop from them. [17:21] psydruid so that's user-friendliness for you [17:21] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1504657031277551618-2048x570.jpg [17:21] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/1504657031277551618-2048x570.jpg [17:21] DaemonFC I think there are ways to run Firefox or Vivaldi or GNOME Web on a Chromebook, but the Debian subsystem isn't entirely stable yet. [17:22] matey /me pictures the debian subsystem as a user in a gimp mask with a leash [17:22] DaemonFC It's kind of like a container where it has to redirect the rendering onto your Chrome OS desktop, which works fine for most practical purposes. [17:22] DaemonFC But it is a layer of jank. [17:22] DaemonFC Especially if you get a lower end Chromebook. [17:23] TR News UK COVID-19 Hospitalisations Rise to Highest Number in 2.5 Months http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/03/25/covid-19-hospitalisations-march/ [17:23] TR Bot Blog Archive UK COVID-19 Hospitalisations Rise to Highest Number in 2.5 Months [17:23] matey "subsystem" usually means just that: a layer of junk [17:23] DaemonFC They're working to run Steam on Chrome OS outside the container, which means another nail in Microsoft's coffin. [17:23] matey microsoft will retaliate by taking over webkit [17:24] matey nobody wants them to die more than i do, but im not going to let wishful thinking delude me [17:25] matey nobody wants them to die more than i do <- wish they did want them to more than i do [17:26] matey theres a long and growing list of reasons that microsoft should have fucked themselves to death by now [17:26] matey unfortunately... [17:26] matey its still growing after all these years [17:28] matey and its gotten to the point where people are so sure of it [17:28] matey they just dont even worry [17:28] matey "sure, sign up for github, microsofts going to die anyway" [17:28] matey i wish it was just github [17:29] matey roy says we can just grind against it [17:29] matey but people arent doing that, theyre hugging it [17:29] matey (maybe theyre hugging and grinding it at the same time, but thats only going to mean MORE microsoft) [17:29] matey little githubs running around everywhere [17:30] psydruid a new generation of gimped gits running around [17:30] matey by the time github magically disappears [17:31] psydruid isn't that what Microsoft always wanted [17:31] matey everyone will be used to working WITH them [17:31] psydruid get them while they're young [17:31] matey isn't that what Microsoft always wanted <- so they said [17:32] matey when you do things on github-- youre LITERALLY DOING THEM on microsofts terms [17:32] psydruid in this case produce more of them yourself [17:32] psydruid the microsoft gits aren't alright [17:32] matey but theyve got firmware in the pi, theyve got firmware on amd [17:33] matey theyve got royalties on android [17:33] matey theyre getting money for stuff that has nothing to do with them [17:33] matey roy says they have no business model [17:33] psydruid in a way Microsoft is very "smart" about all of this [17:33] matey im pretty sure the business model is control everything and fuck everyone [17:33] matey how has that changed [17:34] matey granted theyve lost marketshare-- but theyve gained ins to the things they lost marketshare to [17:34] matey im not saying theyll never die [17:34] matey im saying this is EXACTLY how they make themselves last for years to come [17:34] matey this is how they fight to survive [17:34] psydruid Sun, DEC and other defunct companies didn't think of going this far to stay relevant [17:35] psydruid or rather force their relevance upon the entire industry [17:35] matey but instead of fighting them, people are happily helping them fight to survive [17:35] matey its so stupid [17:35] matey or rather force their relevance upon the entire industry <- same as it ever was [17:35] matey Sun, DEC and other defunct companies didn't think of going this far to stay relev [17:36] matey dec collapsed because they were a minicomputer market in a microcomputer world [17:36] matey sun got taken over [17:36] matey by novell, oracle and microsoft [17:37] matey sgi specialised in high end things that became cheap and commonplace [17:37] matey these were companies that built themselves on actually offering something [17:38] matey microsoft built itself on corruption and control [17:38] matey and thrives on corruption and control [17:38] matey people who give in to them are only helping along the corruption and control of free software [17:38] matey but they stupidly make inane arguments for doing so [17:38] matey thats how you end up in the microsoft cult [17:38] activelow matey: assuming of, tomorrow all Microsoft products were abandoned globally [17:39] activelow even then, supposedly "free" software is in trouble, beyond repair [17:39] matey activelow: you cant even build a gnu/linux distro without github [17:40] matey of course, if github went offline for good tomorrow [17:40] activelow i am not too concerned about github, git clone. done. [17:40] matey people would find enough pieces [17:40] activelow and i keep all sources/distfiles locally; although most of it is distfile tar bundles without commit history [17:40] matey youre a single point of failure though [17:40] activelow which, isn't that relevant [17:41] matey if you can get gentoo to help thats a bit different [17:41] matey when github goes, its taking loads of history with it [17:42] activelow i am planning to become independent from gentoo tooling too, although gentoo is among the most competent and free available [17:42] activelow however, the complexity of "free" software cannot be managed anymore, without gentoo [17:42] matey the complexity of free software is cancer [17:42] activelow ideally, alot of the "GNU" automake/configure stuff was less intrusive too, wish-thinking [17:43] matey less intrusive meaning what [17:43] activelow and i fear i cannot fully remove GCC and Linux kernel anymore, because hardware support [17:43] matey automake is perl, automake might even be github. and perl is github [17:43] activelow that's why, i try to keep old versions of it now [17:43] matey you cant remove gcc after all youve done to go for tinycc compatbility? [17:43] activelow nonetheless, even with gcc-4.7/kernel-5.10 situation is unacceptable [17:44] activelow i cannot yet move to TinyCC, yes. currently i am using gcc-4.7 without c++ [17:44] activelow that's well prepared, except for minor issues with the hardware i got here [17:44] activelow hardware, which builds a dependency graph against later versions of kernel/u-boot/gcc [17:45] activelow anyway, i got a migration path, and the aarch32 is ready [17:46] activelow nonetheless, my prognosis for free software are as troublesome as microsoft products are, with the only difference i can't nor am i willing to do anything for microsoft [17:46] matey a lot of projects moved to github after their source repos were hit by ddos attacks [17:46] matey automake itself was hit by a ddos attack in 2019 [17:47] matey slitaz moved to github after a LONG-STANDING ddos attack to their repos [17:47] matey but then left github again (this is rare enough to be a sole mention) [17:47] activelow i don't recommend github, however it is not the most concerning issue; git-clone and the problem is mostly solved [17:47] matey my prognosis for free software are as troublesome as microsoft products are <- thats because free software itself is now a microsoft product. [17:47] matey if you put free software under microsofts control [17:48] matey it will have all the problems that microsoft products have. [17:48] activelow microsoft = pentagon/RAND corp./NATO/USA [17:48] matey that should be a little more obvious than it is [17:48] matey microsoft = pentagon/RAND corp./NATO/USA <- without a doubt [17:48] activelow and the "five eyes" are pulling the strings for decades already [17:48] matey a one-sided, incomplete, but otherwise correct take. [17:49] activelow that's why, there isn't any 100% opensource hardware/software Z80 type terminal for serial line termination with VGA and PS/2 [17:49] activelow 40years now [17:49] activelow and now, they got control over, what they cannot control anymore anyway, it's chaos [17:49] activelow and corruption [17:50] matey these are entities that thrive on chaos, corruption and destablilisation [17:50] matey just like red hat did [17:50] activelow and the argument a 100% free and opensource Z80 era hardware/software system posed a threat to the "security architecture" is ridiculous [17:50] matey stability poses a huge threat to corporations [17:51] matey everything they offer is based on their monopoly on chaos [17:51] activelow pentagon/RAND Corp/NATO/USA are the threat to security, including "free" software, hardware, education, social peace [17:51] matey again, you insist on talking about one side of the picture, even if that side is more or less what you say [17:51] activelow i do not want any of their products anywhere close, for educational reasons alone alrady [17:52] matey its not as if the world would be saved if everyone said "fuck the 'west'" and simply went over to support putler instead [17:52] activelow nonetheless, the entire globe was flooded with the electronic waste made in USA [17:52] matey nonetheless, the entire globe was flooded with the electronic waste made in USA <- not really made in usa, they have no fabs [17:52] matey made FOR usa [17:52] activelow matey: yes, because the entire globe was westernized, for strings to be pulled from Pentagon/RAND corp/NATO/USA [17:52] matey and not even "in the west" [17:52] matey matey: yes, because the entire globe was westernized <- now youre getting warmer [17:53] matey what does "westernized" mean [17:53] matey $$$ [17:53] activelow Euro isn't any different [17:54] matey no its not [17:54] schestowitz-TR today I do my first ever covid test :-) [17:54] schestowitz-TR so far negative... need to wait another 20 mins to be sure though ● Mar 25 [18:01] *matey has quit (connection closed) [18:08] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:10] *bnchs (~bnchs@5v2j4qtes7i7c.irc) has joined #techrights [18:10] bnchs i realized that my ISP is getting a little hard on internet speed [18:11] bnchs whenever i go on IRC, they repeatedly choke my connection (frequent IP change + TCP reset attacks) [18:13] TR News Biggest EPO Strike in More Than Half a Decade | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/biggest-strike-against-campinos/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/25/biggest-strike-against-campinos/ [18:13] TR Bot Biggest EPO Strike in More Than Half a Decade | Techrights [18:15] schestowitz-TR test negative [18:15] schestowitz-TR my firts covid-19 test [18:16] bnchs congrats [18:16] *bnchs has quit (connection closed) [18:18] *bnchs (~bnchs@5v2j4qtes7i7c.irc) has joined #techrights [18:18] bnchs where was the test performed anyway [18:19] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/25/apple-plans-to-offer-the-iphone-as-as-disservice-iaad-ensuring-you-never-own-even-the-hardware/ [18:19] TR Bot Apple plans to offer the iPhone as as Disservice (iaaD), ensuring you never own even the hardware. BaronHK's Rants [18:20] DaemonFC "Ten years of the plans are $3,720 added to your phone bill even if you never use the plans once, and then each time your phone has an issue, theres some bullshit deductible preventing them from even covering the full cost of repair. [18:20] DaemonFC In other words, if you used the plan twice over 10 years, you could have fully replaced 6 brand new phones. This is how bad people are at doing basic math! Or budgeting. They keep throwing money at service plans because they go Im too broke to buy a replacement for this." [18:20] bnchs yes i've seen the [18:20] DaemonFC On service plans for mobile phones. [18:20] bnchs iphone subscription bullshit [18:20] bnchs i thought we were over the thin clients shit [18:21] bnchs i guess we're going backwards thin clients [18:22] DaemonFC "They asked nicely to pay for a service plan, and something like half the people out there are not stupid enough, so it will no longer be a request. " [18:23] DaemonFC Mister GULAG prefers ShitHub. [18:24] DaemonFC All of his Microsoft friens on Shitter highly recommended it to him. [18:25] DaemonFC GNOME Web 42 is working really well, except it does not allow me to use the Dark theme. [18:25] DaemonFC I'm pretty sure this is a libadwaita and GTK4 issue. [18:26] DaemonFC Maybe specific to Debian? [18:26] bnchs gnome web is literally a wrapper around chromium [18:26] bnchs or webkit [18:26] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:31] DaemonFC Webkit. [18:42] bnchs yeah [18:42] DaemonFC The longer you own a phone, the less remaining value it has. [18:43] bnchs have you ever had the fun of resolving a linker error [18:43] DaemonFC Eventually the $129 deductible (in addition to all of those service plan fees) would have bought a comparable used phone, which is what they'll give you. [18:43] bnchs DaemonFC: people throw away phones too much [18:43] bnchs thats a problem [18:44] TR News "For me, this is really important as I hate being in car. It makes me sick, dizzy and angry to be in a car. Car trips ruins my day." gemini://rawtext.club/~ploum/2022-03-25-where_to_live.gmi [18:44] DaemonFC T-Mobile sold Sprint phones that were incompatible with their network, then shut down the network those phones were compatible with. [18:44] bnchs i think phones can and should be reusable [18:44] DaemonFC Then they offered to "give you a phone" for "free" after 24 months of bill credits. [18:44] bnchs maybe as a affordable pihole server [18:44] DaemonFC Locking you in to T-Mobile. [18:45] DaemonFC In exchange for replacing something they sold you, knowing it wouldn't work soon. [18:45] bnchs i would have considered hosting a public website on them [18:45] bnchs but the fact that they have a locked bootloader [18:45] bnchs and very ancient kernel [18:45] bnchs it doesnt make it worth it for security [18:46] DaemonFC Godzilla is on the march again upstairs. [18:47] bnchs DaemonFC: whos the godzilla? [18:47] bnchs dont tell me its a fatass [18:47] DaemonFC Some fat woman upstairs. [18:48] bnchs the type that would use cheats on wii fit [18:48] bnchs it would be a matter of a few seconds [18:48] bnchs before they stop [18:48] bnchs and lie down [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.51 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 224.61 ● Mar 25 [19:02] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:07] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:08] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [19:08] TR News Our Best Month in Gemini | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/our-best-month-in-gemini/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/25/our-best-month-in-gemini/ [19:08] TR Bot Our Best Month in Gemini | Techrights [19:08] bnchs gemini hasnt matured yet [19:08] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-google-dma [19:08] TR Bot Google push back against EU's Digital Markets Act - Protocol [19:09] bnchs AdmFubar: god damn it apple and google stop [19:09] bnchs you're giving tim swine-e more content [19:09] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/policy/dma-bfd-eu-us [19:09] TR Bot Digital Markets Act will force Apple to open up iMessage - Protocol [19:09] bnchs that's also good [19:10] bnchs apple should open up imessage [19:10] bnchs so retarded teens dont discriminate because "GREEEN BUBBLE LOL" [19:10] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:11] bnchs btw the "green bubble" does not tell that the person is poor [19:11] bnchs it simply tells that the person's phone doesnt support apple's proprietary protocol [19:11] bnchs and sending messages through SMS instead [19:12] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/workplace/microsoft-corruption-whistleblower-bribery [19:12] TR Bot corruption whistleblower says he was fired - Protocol [19:13] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/us-eu-data-deal [19:13] TR Bot US and EU have come to a deal on data - Protocol [19:13] bnchs the apple v. epic games is simply a smokescreen for epic games' own anti-trust monopoly [19:14] bnchs by signing developers into exclusivity deals to their store [19:14] bnchs which btw no GNU/Linux ports at all (in fact they hate porting to GNU/Linux) [19:14] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162987 [19:14] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [19:14] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [19:14] bnchs also since unreal engine is a popular engine [19:15] bnchs they can lock-in game developers [19:15] bnchs and maybe extort them for their money [19:20] TR News Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Dont Participate in the Crimes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988 [19:20] TR Bot Microsoft Run by Criminals, Who Expel Those Who Don't Participate in the Crimes | Tux Machines [19:21] TR News Microsoft = crime, corruption http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988 also see http://techrights.org/2021/03/17/epoleaks-report-march-2021-part-12/ Zemlin, OSI and all those Microsoft apologists are partners in crime [19:21] TR Bot EPO and Microsoft Collude to Break the Law Part XII: Foreign Corrupt Practices, Bid Rigging and Slush Funds | Techrights [19:22] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:23] TR News Microsoft has always been organised crime. Nothing has ever changed. The cover-up become more extensive (even the SEC itself). http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162988 [19:25] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:26] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [19:27] TR News What is Devuan Linux and #HowTo Install It Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162989 [19:27] TR Bot What is Devuan Linux and How to Install It | Tux Machines [19:30] TR News Its Red Hats 29th birthday! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162990 [19:30] TR Bot Its Red Hats 29th birthday! | Tux Machines [19:34] DaemonFC The Russian military said in a briefing on Friday that 1,351 military personnel had been killed in Ukraine and 3,825 had been wounded, in the first major casualty update since March 2. [19:34] DaemonFC Underestimating casualties by a factor of 10-12.... [19:34] DaemonFC Nobody believes this. [19:36] DaemonFC "US assesses Russia is running low on air-launched cruise missiles and is experiencing high rates of failure" [19:37] DaemonFC The report cites failure rates of Russian cruise missiles at 20-60% of total launched. [19:37] DaemonFC Seems like more of them are duds than are being shot down, MinceR [19:37] DaemonFC The Russians: "We have 10 times as much stuff. It's a shame that half of it breaks down or doesn't even work at all to begin with!" [19:38] MinceR DaemonFC: we have enough putler fanboys around who will tell us that actually putler has already won the war [19:38] DaemonFC This is what rampant corruption in the Russian government and military gives them. [19:38] DaemonFC They have no idea what equipment will actually work. [19:38] MinceR and in 3 days or less [19:38] MinceR because that was the plan [19:38] *psydroid8 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:38] DaemonFC The 3 days to win the war, day 33. [19:38] DaemonFC :) [19:39] DaemonFC Putler anticipated winning the war in 3 days. It's 33 days in and not only have they not won, they control less than 10% of the ground area of Ukraine. [19:40] DaemonFC Putler anticipated losing at most a couple hundred Russian soldiers. Fact: 33 days in, he's lost about 20,000 dead and about another 60,000 to injuries and exposure to the elements, requiring them to be medically evacuated. [19:41] DaemonFC Putler says there are reinforcements amassing in Belarus. Fact: He's already gone through all of his best equipment as far as tanks, trucks, and APCs and has lost over half of the initial wave. [19:41] CrystalMath DaemonFC: NATO anticipated winning the war in yugoslavia in 3 days [19:41] CrystalMath oops, took 78 [19:41] CrystalMath and NATO never managed to get in by land [19:42] CrystalMath they only won by bombing civilian infrastructure until yugoslavia surrendered to save lives [19:42] DaemonFC Yes, the famous United States/Yugoslavia border that you only had to drive across. [19:42] DaemonFC I remember that. [19:42] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [19:42] MinceR ah, yes [19:42] DaemonFC Where do we get these idiots? [19:42] CrystalMath NATO is all around yugoslavia [19:42] MinceR putler already won this war because... the war in yugoslavia took longer. [19:42] MinceR bulletproof logic. [19:43] CrystalMath yugoslavia was 10x weaker than ukraine [19:43] DaemonFC MinceR, I suppose that means on day 79, Ukraine wins. [19:43] DaemonFC The United States was never so incompetent in any modern war as to have 80,000 causalities in a month. [19:44] MinceR DaemonFC: obviously, putler will stop the simulation we all live in on day 78 [19:44] DaemonFC Putler managed to do that. [19:44] MinceR or there will be a calendar reform. [19:44] CrystalMath sigh, keep beleiving those bullcrap numbers [19:44] DaemonFC Between 2001 and 2021, the United States lost a total of about 1/8th of what the Russians have in a month. Even though we were in two wars. [19:44] MinceR what used to be a day will be known as an "hour" [19:45] DaemonFC The US has modern equipment and it works. [19:45] DaemonFC And we don't have to rely on an untrained slave army like Putler does. [19:45] DaemonFC And flat tires and running out of gas are not an issue because we know how to bring supplies along. [19:46] schestowitz [19:45] The US has modern equipment and it works. [19:46] schestowitz oooof [19:46] schestowitz better check up on that [19:46] schestowitz like how f-35 planes could not even fire their guns [19:46] schestowitz US has vastly better marketing [19:46] schestowitz marketing, not products [19:46] schestowitz marketing is a distortion of reality [19:46] schestowitz bbiab [19:46] MinceR pretending that the shittiest dictatorships are the most free places to live in and have every conceivable moral high ground was just enough, they also have to pretend that they're winning when they are not [19:47] DaemonFC The Abrams tank works fine. [19:47] DaemonFC We've never lost one to anything the Russians have produced. [19:48] DaemonFC The Russians went in with tanks and the Javelin and NLAW systems wiped out their tanks and APCs even when the Ukrainians don't have too many tanks. [19:48] TR News The next release of Red Hat Satellite: Same great features, new version number Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162991 [19:48] TR Bot The next release of Red Hat Satellite: Same great features, new version number | Tux Machines [19:48] DaemonFC You don't actually need a tank to destroy a tank. You just need a really good missile with a high explosive head, and that tank is history. [19:48] MinceR you can't have too many tanks :> [19:49] DaemonFC I think tank warfare is proving to be kind of obsolete, MinceR [19:49] DaemonFC You've got a really expensive target for a missile that's pretty cheap in comparison. [19:49] DaemonFC You have a line of tanks, and enemy infantry can just light them all up and move on. [19:49] DaemonFC Wow! [19:49] DaemonFC The tank might actually be the new battleship. [19:49] *batalie has quit (Quit: leaving) [19:49] DaemonFC Nobody has battleships anymore. [19:50] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:50] DaemonFC They're big and they're slow and they cost a lot, and a couple torpedoes and they're gone. [19:50] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights [19:51] *batalie (~natalie@2pnuqzgrdxesq.irc) has joined #techrights [19:51] DaemonFC It costs Russia about $2.5 million USD to build a single tank. [19:51] TR News Ubuntu Pro Settings Pulled from Ubuntu 22.04 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162992 [19:51] TR Bot Ubuntu Pro Settings Pulled from Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines [19:51] DaemonFC A Javelin missile costs $200,000 per shot, and an NLAW system costs even less. [19:52] DaemonFC If you're doing more than $12 worth of damage to the enemy with $1 worth of munitions, then the one who is being grinded down is the enemy, MinceR [19:52] MinceR an AFV can carry heavier weapons than infantry though [19:52] MinceR so you're probably better off with some sort of mix [19:52] DaemonFC Now obviously, you can attack other things with Javelins and NLAWs and you do. You can destroy APCs and army trucks full of soldiers and ammunition. [19:53] DaemonFC So you won't destroy a $2.5 million tank with every missile. [19:53] DaemonFC But on the average, you do a lot more damage than the missile costs. [19:53] MinceR can you destroy fortifications with them, though? [19:53] DaemonFC Yep. [19:53] MinceR also, how does the cost of these missiles compare to that of tank shells? [19:54] DaemonFC The US military uses Javelins against enemy soldiers. [19:54] DaemonFC It can afford to. There's more where that came from. [19:54] MinceR the US military can afford to waste money :> [19:54] DaemonFC Imagine what goes through the enemy's head when they see a missile coming down on them, before their ass, I mean. [19:55] MinceR another advantage AFVs have is the amount of ammunition they can carry [19:55] DaemonFC That video of all of the Russian tanks being destroyed by Javelins and NLAWs when they made their failed attempt to just storm into Kyiv shows what I mean. [19:55] DaemonFC They never got into Kyiv and they lost all of the tanks. [19:56] activelow maybe, the plan wasn't to occupy and invade to begin with? [19:56] DaemonFC The Russians are retreating and digging trenches twice as far from Kyiv as where their convoy was before. [19:56] DaemonFC And now they're starving too. [19:56] DaemonFC The Ukrainian military is still chasing after them and blowing up their tanks and stuff. [19:56] DaemonFC I mean, retreat hasn't exactly saved the Russians. [19:57] DaemonFC It just means they're being hunted down like dogs and killed where they're hiding. [19:59] MinceR no, the plan was to lose all trade relations and destroy their own economy [19:59] MinceR because that will surely make countries leave the NATO. ● Mar 25 [20:00] *CrystalMath (~coderain@fjnua4vbj783q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:02] activelow if germany/netherlands/switzerland were capable, to arrange for economic and politcal relations with Russia (Norhstream, Volkswagen etc). why hasn't Ukraine? [20:03] activelow who were those friends of Ukraine, now supplying them with "lethal aid", which are rocket launchers and explosives. [20:03] TR News Capyloons web-based OS is now available for mainline Linux phones (PinePhone Pro and Librem 5) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162993 [20:03] TR Bot Capyloons web-based OS is now available for mainline Linux phones (PinePhone Pro and Librem 5) | Tux Machines [20:04] MinceR because if ukraine's economy develops, it makes russian people think that they could do that too, and putler doesn't want that [20:04] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:04] MinceR putler wants corruption, oppression and squalor [20:05] MinceR and as long as that's what they see in the neighboring country that they have connections to, it's seen as acceptable [20:05] activelow german industry heavily invested into Russia, welcomed by Putin. [20:05] AdmFubar purtin is after the wheat production [20:06] activelow Putin doesn't need wheat imports from Ukraine, it is North-Africa, Middle-East, and whoever else the Comedian from Kiev conducted USD business with [20:06] TR News Parrot 5.0 Security OS Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162983#comment-33192 [20:06] TR Bot Parrot 5.0 Security OS Released with Linux Kernel 5.16, New Hacking Tools, and LTS Support | Tux Machines [20:06] AdmFubar putin want the control of the wheat production... [20:06] MinceR i don't think "the comedian" owned those businesses [20:06] AdmFubar you keep missing the poin [20:08] AdmFubar with the ukraine's what production in their control they would be the second largest producer in the world.. [20:08] TR News Lakka 4.0 game emulator released with LibreELEC 10.0.2 and RetroArch 1.10.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162769#comment-33191 [20:08] TR Bot Lakka 4.0 release | Tux Machines [20:09] activelow besides, Ukraine natural reserves destroyed, to export wheat [20:09] AdmFubar now think what the two largest producers could do with manipulating wheat prices are the market.. think the opec of wheat. [20:10] activelow anyway, recent reports where, no exports depart anymore, from "Ukrainian" harbors [20:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [20:10] activelow and whoever controlled those harbors, if it wasn't the Comedian from Kiev [20:10] AdmFubar has nothing to to with the long term [20:10] activelow *were [20:11] activelow and i think you missed the point, which is those who supply Ukraine with weapons and escalate the conflict, those do not support "Ukrainian" interests [20:11] MinceR this might come as a shock to you, but not every country is run in the stalinist way [20:12] MinceR yes, we all know that ukrainian interests are that of becoming either dead or enslaved by putler [20:12] activelow MinceR: USD isn't the currency Putin asks for [20:13] MinceR who cares [20:13] activelow Putin demands Rubles... guess whose itnerests are served with USD? [20:13] XRevan86 MinceR: It sucks what happened to your interests in 1956 [20:13] MinceR by claiming that terrorussia will only pay its debts in rubbles, they've already defaulted [20:13] XRevan86 activelow: "euros" [20:13] activelow Russian banks hold a gigantic surplus of foreign currency of Euros and USD [20:14] XRevan86 Sure, sure. [20:14] activelow it is western banks which defaulted, hence Putin rejects those "compromised currencies", USD and Euro [20:14] MinceR lol [20:14] MinceR alternative facts! [20:14] schestowitz-TR RUSHAN FAKDS [20:15] XRevan86 "Russian banks hold a gigantic surplus of foreign currency of Euros and USD" <- This statement impressed me deeply. [20:15] activelow that's not "russian facts", it's simply facts [20:15] schestowitz-TR url? [20:15] activelow last reports were 600billion USD surplus [20:15] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [20:16] XRevan86 That a, uh, big number. [20:17] schestowitz-TR Russian GDP is less than South Korea [20:17] schestowitz-TR and less than Spain [20:18] activelow schestowitz-TR: newspapers reported it regularly, including the fact hundreds of millions of cash arrive in russia daily, for Oil/Gas/Energy [20:18] MinceR "newspapers" [20:18] activelow here is one random pick of hundreds: https://www.rnd.de/politik/russland-rubel-abgestuerzt-banken-duerfen-keine-euros-und-us-dollars-mehr-auszahlen-BX32INMAZWR7NEOWCBBX7DGWYI.html [20:18] TR Bot Russland: Rubel abgestrzt Banken drfen keine Euros und US-Dollars mehr auszahlen [20:18] XRevan86 600 000 000 000 US dollars [20:18] activelow or Euros or whatever, doesn't matter [20:18] activelow it is western Banks which defaulted [20:18] XRevan86 That would be even bigger [20:23] XRevan86 "Russian banks hold a gigantic surplus of foreign currency of Euros and USD" <- https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://vpost-media.ru/texts/inache-u-bankov-mogla-zakonchitsya-valyuta [20:23] TR Bot | VPost media [20:27] MinceR (cat) (audio) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0pwMsfG7iA [20:27] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=l0pwMsfG7iA [20:27] TR Bot yewtu.be | Human is the best bed - Invidious [20:50] TR News Allwinner D1 RISC-V SoC shows up on new Nezha STU dev kit and DevTerm handheld http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162974#comment-33193 [20:50] TR Bot Dongshan Nezha STU devkit features Allwinner D1 RISC-V SoM/SBC | Tux Machines [20:51] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162994 [20:51] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:58] TR News "The National Security Agency (NSA) has issued guidelines on how to make Kubernetes environments more secure." But the NSA's goal is NOT security. https://thenewstack.io/nsa-on-how-to-harden-kubernetes/ [20:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/nsa-on-how-to-harden-kubernetes/ [20:58] TR Bot NSA on How to Harden Kubernetes The New Stack [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.66 k/sec., IPFS upstream 64.80 average k/sec., average swarm size 195.11 ● Mar 25 [21:00] TR News The Publisher with the Best Steam Deck Support - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/the-publisher-with-the-best-steam-deck-support/ Source: boilingsteam [21:00] TR Bot The Publisher with the Best Steam Deck Support - Boiling Steam [21:00] TR News 1700 Games On The Steam Deck, with Valkyria Chronicles 4 as Verified - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/1700-games-on-the-steam-deck-with-valkyria-chronicles-4-as-verified/ Source: boilingsteam [21:00] TR Bot 1700 Games On The Steam Deck, with Valkyria Chronicles 4 as Verified - Boiling Steam [21:00] *u-amarsh04 has quit (connection closed) [21:03] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [21:03] TR News openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/12 https://linuxiac.com/opensuse-tumbleweed-now-offering-gnome-42/ [21:03] *Skywave has quit (Quit) [21:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxiac.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxiac.com/opensuse-tumbleweed-now-offering-gnome-42/ [21:03] TR Bot openSUSE Tumbleweed Now Offering GNOME 42 [21:04] *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@3h445tthhvdzg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:05] *bnchs (~bnchs@7tf4q78cqjqcw.irc) has joined #techrights [21:05] TR News "Still not super detailed, but I hope it will help some of the Pepper&Carrot's derivatives projects in progress." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article903/pepper-s-house-map [21:05] bnchs so apparently some torrent trackers started sending a warning that says "glory to ukraine" [21:05] TR Bot Pepper's house map - David Revoy [21:06] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162995 [21:06] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:06] bnchs this causes the client to throw up an error [21:06] bnchs and stop downloading/seeding [21:08] bnchs https://teddit.net/r/torrents/comments/tnm326/tracker_returned_a_warning_glory_to_ukraine/ [21:08] TR Bot Tracker returned a warning: Glory to Ukraine. : torrents [21:09] AdmFubar https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/honda_civic_hack/ [21:09] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://go.theregister.com/feed/www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/honda_civic_hack/ [21:09] TR Bot Honda Civics vulnerable to remote unlock, start hack The Register [21:09] bnchs lol fuck yeah [21:09] bnchs time to see cars crashing into trees [21:10] bnchs or framing people for DUI [21:10] AdmFubar https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/goldman_sachs_arm_ipo/ [21:10] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/25/goldman_sachs_arm_ipo/ [21:10] TR Bot Goldman Sachs to lead $60bn Arm IPO The Register [21:11] bnchs wait until they ban IoT integration into cars [21:13] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [21:15] schestowitz-TR Goldman Sachs [21:15] schestowitz-TR not uk [21:15] schestowitz-TR not japan [21:15] schestowitz-TR or ksa [21:15] schestowitz-TR so next come back doors [21:15] schestowitz-TR for "shareholders" [21:17] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:22] TR News [GIT PULL] platform-drivers-x86 for 5.18-1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/bd0e83ec-f42c-4617-5c1c-57501177afe6@redhat.com/ [21:22] TR Bot [GIT PULL] platform-drivers-x86 for 5.18-1 - Hans de Goede [21:23] TR News GPUOpen is paywalled. Soooo open. [21:24] AdmFubar we're sorry the recovery you need is not in service https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-7-recovery-cds-and-dvds-wont-work-due-bug [21:24] Alternative link Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-7-recovery-cds-and-dvds-wont-work-due-bug [21:24] TR Bot Recent Windows updates create thorny situation for Windows 7 recovery discs | Windows Central [21:25] TR News Happy 10th Birthday to the Open Source Robotics Foundation Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162996 [21:25] TR Bot Happy 10th Birthday to the Open Source Robotics Foundation | Tux Machines [21:26] TR News Ubuntu Blog: Inclusive Language and its Future at Canonical https://ubuntu.com//blog/inclusive-language-and-its-future-at-canonical they used to care a bit about software freedom; this is just trolling: http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/ [21:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/inclusive-language-and-its-future-at-canonical [21:26] TR Bot Language and its Future at Canonical | Ubuntu [21:26] TR Bot The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights [21:27] TR News "Despite the innovation, investment, and growth in the space, [spy] homes have never quite lived up to their promise." People not dumb enough to fall for the hype yet? https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-evolution-of-the-smart-home-current-trends-part-2 [21:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-evolution-of-the-smart-home-current-trends-part-2 [21:27] TR Bot Evolution of the Smart Home: Current Trends [Part 2] | Ubuntu [21:28] *bnchs (~bnchs@7tf4q78cqjqcw.irc) has joined #techrights [21:29] TR News ICBM still trying to ride this hype wave from 2-4 years ago https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/debugging-and-error-handling-best-practices-in-a-blockchain-application/ [21:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/debugging-and-error-handling-best-practices-in-a-blockchain-application/ [21:29] TR Bot Learn best practices for debugging and error handling in an enterprise-grade blockchain application IBM Developer [21:30] TR News "Chris is moving away from using Containers" https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148027/the-no-container-theory-self-hosted-67/ not living up to the hype? [21:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: jupiterbroadcasting.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/148027/the-no-container-theory-self-hosted-67/ [21:30] TR Bot The No Container Theory | Self-Hosted 67 | Jupiter Broadcasting [21:31] TR News "The keycloak package prior to version 17.0.1-2 was running with WildFly server. Since upstream officially moved to Quarkus distribution, Arch Linux follows this approach. This means some manual intervention is required for the upgrade." https://archlinux.org/news/keycloak-1701-2-update-requires-manual-reconfiguration/ [21:31] TR Bot Arch Linux - News: Keycloak 17.0.1-2 update requires manual reconfiguration [21:31] bnchs so there's these live streamers who go out in public while streaming and play their donations out loud [21:31] schestowitz-TR I saw that [21:32] bnchs yeah [21:32] bnchs like one time some guy played an sound clip that simply said "nigger" on loop [21:32] bnchs and a concern troll (who was white) came out and threatened to stab him [21:33] TR News Time to quit Microsoft Windows https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-7-recovery-cds-and-dvds-wont-work-due-bug [21:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-7-recovery-cds-and-dvds-wont-work-due-bug [21:34] TR News This week the EPOs staff made a clear statement to the EPOs administration; the staff isnt happy and almost half of the workers, according to the union, were willing to take the risks associated with striking http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/biggest-strike-against-campinos/ [21:34] TR Bot Biggest EPO Strike in More Than Half a Decade | Techrights [21:34] TR News gemini:// has become very important to us and it grows rapidly because people are frustrated with the World Wide Web http://techrights.org/2022/03/25/our-best-month-in-gemini/ [21:35] TR Bot Our Best Month in Gemini | Techrights [21:35] bnchs its pretty funny, one of them got arrested because some guy thought it would be funny to play a fake bomb threat [21:37] TR News "In traditional package managers it's heavily emphasized that you need to trust the packagers for your distributionthat's a big reason why I've used Debian on my servers before but not ubuntu, I don't trust canonical." gemini://nytpu.com/gemlog/2021-09-01.gmi [21:38] TR News "Heres your weekly Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whats coming up. Your contributions are welcome (see the end of the post)!" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-12/ [21:38] TR Bot Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-12 Fedora Community Blog [21:38] TR News Prime example of dark patterns in the wild (pun intended). https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/amazon-prime-subscription-cancel-secret-project-b2038207.html [21:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: independent.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/amazon-prime-subscription-cancel-secret-project-b2038207.html [21:38] TR Bot Amazon intentionally made it difficult to cancel Prime subscription in secret project | The Independent [21:41] TR News Wine 7.5 is out now with initial OCSP protocol support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/wine-75-is-out-now-with-initial-ocsp-protocol-support/ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games [21:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/03/wine-75-is-out-now-with-initial-ocsp-protocol-support/ [21:41] TR Bot 7.5 is out now with initial OCSP protocol support | GamingOnLinux [21:46] TR News "he Atlantic cod originated from Norwegian spawning grounds and had lived in Arctic water temperature for up to 6 years. The potential fish abundance was far below commercially sustainable levels and is expected to remain so because of the low productivity of the CAO." https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abj7536 [21:46] TR Bot ( status 503 @ https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abj7536 ) [21:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: science.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abj7536 [21:46] TR News Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162997 [21:46] TR Bot Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:46] TR News Games: Steam Deck and Wine 7.5 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162998 [21:46] TR Bot Games: Steam Deck and Wine 7.5 | Tux Machines [21:49] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:53] TR News Asahi Linux Shows the M1's Greatest Limitation May Be macOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162909#comment-33195 [21:53] TR Bot Asahi Linux: The Individual Users Stake in an Apple Silicon World | Tux Machines [21:57] TR News Apple plans to offer the iPhone as as Disservice (iaaD), ensuring you never own even the hardware. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/03/25/apple-plans-to-offer-the-iphone-as-as-disservice-iaad-ensuring-you-never-own-even-the-hardware/ [21:57] TR Bot Apple plans to offer the iPhone as as Disservice (iaaD), ensuring you never own even the hardware. BaronHK's Rants [21:59] TR News Peddling Microsoft talking point under the name "Linux security" https://linuxsecurity.com/features/fileless-malware-on-linux [21:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/features/fileless-malware-on-linux [21:59] TR Bot Malware on Linux: Anatomy of an Attack | LinuxSecurity.com [21:59] TR News "At this point we will no longer back-port fixes for security issues and critical bugs to 1.11, so we heartily encourage you to upgrade to the latest version of Istio (1.13.2) if you havent already." https://istio.io/latest/news/support/announcing-1.11-eol-final/ [21:59] TR Bot Istio / Support for Istio 1.11 has ended ● Mar 25 [22:00] *AdmFubar has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [22:00] TR News ICBM has outsourced to Microsoft's proprietary software prison again https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/introducing-stocktrader/ [22:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/introducing-stocktrader/ [22:00] TR Bot Introducing IBM StockTrader IBM Developer [22:04] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [22:12] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zs5v7f7s477fn.irc) has joined #techrights [22:33] psydruid so the biggest disadvantage of x86 hardware (other than the hostility towards the hardware's owner) is Windows and the biggest disadvantage of Apple's hardware is macOS [22:34] psydruid what a novel idea it would be to let people install the operating systems they want to use [22:58] DaemonFC I might buy a Macbook eventually if Asahi Linux pans out. [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 95.21 average k/sec., average swarm size 353.56 ● Mar 25 [23:01] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:03] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:22] DaemonFC https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/europe/russian-general-calls-encirclement-of-ukrainian-cities-a-deliberate-plan/index.html [23:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/europe/russian-general-calls-encirclement-of-ukrainian-cities-a-deliberate-plan/index.html [23:22] TR Bot Russia says first phase of war is over as its advances in Ukraine appear to have stalled - CNN [23:22] DaemonFC MinceR, Phase 1: Lose half your invasion force and 60% of your APCs, tanks, and trucks, and several dozen helicopters and fighter jets, and have no strategic gains to show for it. [23:22] DaemonFC Phase 2: Finish getting ass kicked. [23:23] MinceR :> [23:23] MinceR which phase is "piss off from ukraine and starve to death"? [23:23] MinceR i'm waiting for that one [23:23] DaemonFC The people Putler sent into Ukraine can't get any food to eat. [23:24] MinceR good, they can fuck off home [23:24] DaemonFC The Russian military isn't feeding them, they've already raided all of the farms and looted the stores. [23:24] DaemonFC Or should I say.... [23:24] DaemonFC They blew up some of the supermarkets so the Ukrainians wouldn't eat, and now that they blew up the food, they march in and realize they can't eat the food they blew up. [23:25] DaemonFC I mean, there may have been some things left to eat had they not been so intent on starving the civilians who aren't even fighting them. [23:26] DaemonFC That's what you get when you're dealing with evil people. They're so intent on damaging you that sometimes they'll inflict more damage on themselves trying so desperately to do it. [23:32] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/18/funny-internet-comments-03-18-22/ [23:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/03/18/funny-internet-comments-03-18-22/ [23:32] TR Bot The Best Comments On The Interwebs This Week (23 Pics) [23:50] DaemonFC I went to Jewel and stocked up on meat. My chest freezer is still only about 80% full. [23:50] DaemonFC When the bad guys tell you what their plan is, you should listen. [23:50] DaemonFC They admit they plan to raise chicken prices by about 40% soon. [23:51] DaemonFC So if you freeze enough meat to last for a year, they can't get you...just yet. [23:51] activelow freezing all this meat is more costly than the 40% discount [23:51] DaemonFC No it isn't. [23:52] activelow ever calcualted the costs for the freezer? [23:52] DaemonFC 12 cents per kilowatt hour. It takes about 250 kilowatt hours to run the chest freezer for a year, so about $30. [23:52] DaemonFC ever calcualted the costs for the freezer? [23:53] DaemonFC That wasn't that expensive, plus if there are no chickens to buy at the store.... [23:53] activelow a freezer requires more energy [23:53] DaemonFC That kind of makes what it costs irrelevant. [23:53] activelow anyway, lets say $50 for the freezer [23:53] DaemonFC It's an energy star model. It says right there on the EPA sticker. [23:53] DaemonFC About $30 to run at the national average electric price. Illinois is less than that. [23:54] activelow anyway, you need to buy chicken for at least $100 or more to compensate for this [23:54] DaemonFC I bought a bunch of chicken. [23:55] DaemonFC I had coupons today and got some Buy One Get One stuff and stuff on sale. [23:57] DaemonFC I got about 16 pounds of chicken breasts, four beef roasts of about 2.5 pounds each, 16 pounds of ground beef patties (fresh, then I froze them), 5 pounds of bone-in pork chops, 2 pounds of seasoned meatballs, and a bunch of other stuff. Spent about $160 total after discounts. Filled the shopping cart up. [23:59] activelow nonetheless, the fridge is a waste of electricity