●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Tuesday, April 25, 2023 ●● ● Apr 25 [00:02] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coke-exploring-ways-to-leverage-ai-because-every-company-needs-an-ai-strategy-now-160228764.html [00:02] TR Bot Coke 'exploring ways to leverage AI' [00:02] DaemonFC schestowitz, Coke AI [00:03] DaemonFC "The AI stock surges are not in line with fundamentals and are reminiscent of past instances of companies throwing out buzzwords to appease eager investors. Take blockchain, for instance." [00:03] DaemonFC At least this article SAYS IT. [00:08] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/subway-reports-121-same-store-sales-jump-as-company-eyes-sale-this-quarter-120016246.html [00:08] TR Bot Subway reports 12.1% same-store sales jump as company eyes sale this quarter [00:08] DaemonFC People complaining in the comments about what it costs to have fucking Subway delivered. [00:09] DaemonFC Getting it delivered adds at least 60% by the time you tip and they jack all the prices up because "delivery fees". [00:09] DaemonFC Also, you typically can't redeem paper coupons, which they still issue. [00:09] DaemonFC You have to take those into the store. [00:09] DaemonFC If you get the paper coupons, two footlong subs are like $13+tax, not $30. [00:10] DaemonFC I hear mjg59_ like cold cuts though. [00:11] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-earnings-ai-hype-could-take-backseat-to-cloud-growth-troubles-201023413.html [00:11] TR Bot Microsoft earnings: AI hype could take backseat to cloud growth troubles [00:11] DaemonFC "Microsoft (MSFT) will report earnings for its fiscal third quarter after the bell on Tuesday as the company continues to ride the generative AI hype train while a decline in cloud revenue could spoil the tech giant's quarter." [00:11] DaemonFC In other words, MSM is saying what you said for months. [00:11] DaemonFC Their "cloud" division is in trouble and it's finally being reflected, in the books. Although still probably understated. [00:12] DaemonFC Accounting practices? What accounting practices? [00:12] DaemonFC Meanwhile, AI hype runs up the stock with fake value while execs dump it. [00:13] DaemonFC "According to Gartner, worldwide PC shipments declined a stunning 30% in the first quarter of this year to 55.2 million units." [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Bonus: Crypto and Samsung | BaronHK's Rants [01:07] DaemonFC "Microsoft cant seem to really enter into new markets, but it can do an enormous amount of damage on the way down. Its basically turning Samsung into the sequel of what happened to Nokia." [01:08] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [01:09] DaemonFC Still working on this. [01:12] psydruid Microsoft can only retreat from markets [01:13] DaemonFC https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/walmart-marks-black-history-month-with-14m-initiative [01:13] TR Bot Walmart donates $14M to nonprofits targeting racial inequity as part of 5-year plan | Fox Business [01:14] DaemonFC I thought they already donated at least $14 million in free TVs to black people in South Chicago. [01:14] DaemonFC Before giving up and shutting the stores down. [01:16] DaemonFC MinceR, "Maybe if we donate to the group representing the people setting our stores on fire they'll stop...nope, there went another store." [01:16] DaemonFC Worked well for SVB too, you know. [01:18] DaemonFC https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4F3qESu6JFI [01:18] TR Bot South Park Walmart 2004 - Invidious [01:19] DaemonFC MinceR, Any of this going on in Hungaristan? [01:19] DaemonFC People setting stores on fire to take the televisions? [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] MinceR DaemonFC: not yet [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240423.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240423.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-240423.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-240423.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, April 24, 2023 [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. 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[03:03] schestowitz it was common sense [03:03] schestowitz based on the available data [03:03] schestowitz -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- finance.yahoo.com | Coke 'exploring ways to leverage AI' [03:03] schestowitz WHAT DA??? [03:03] MinceR intelligent soft drink [03:05] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 386675 total Total number of pages in capsule: 45889 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-03-08 20:27:21 GMT; 1 months 16 days ago [03:05] schestowitz schestowitz: it was the link "Red Hat To Lay Off Over 700 Employees" [03:05] schestowitz i see, thanks for clarifying [03:06] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. [03:06] TR News Microsoft Wednesday, 10 years ago: BUT THE CLOWN BUT THE CLOWN. Microsoft this coming Wednesday, 10 years ago: BUT THE HEY HI BUT THE HEY HI!! [03:07] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:08] TR News Microsoft is a one-trick pony. The trick is bribing the media like you bribe officials and various decision-makers. [03:11] TR News Red Hat: GOOD NEWS! "Help Company Compete In a New Environment.... focus on cloud." https://www.channelfutures.com/business-models/red-hat-layoffs-environment CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN CLOWN [03:11] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.channelfutures.com/business-models/red-hat-layoffs-environment ) [03:14] TR News So who will speak for Vladimir Putin in Rupert's empire? https://radaronline.com/p/tucker-carlson-fox-news-cut-ties/ [03:14] TR Bot Tucker Carlson & Fox News Cut Ties, No New Shows Or Farewell To Audience [03:20] TR News "FMN's web interface will be inaccessible during the outage, but the backend service that sends notifications will keep running. No notification will be lost." https://status.fedoraproject.org/2023-04-26-fmn.html [03:20] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://status.fedoraproject.org/2023-04-26-fmn.html ) [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Felipe Borges [03:22] TR News Fedora Magazine: The Community Platform Engineering F2F 2023 Experience Part I https://fedoramagazine.org/the-community-platform-engineering-f2f-2023-experience-part-i/ [03:22] TR Bot The Community Platform Engineering F2F 2023 Experience Part I - Fedora Magazine [03:24] TR News "If you're an avid user of AppImages wondering why they don't appear to work in Ubuntu 23.04, I've got you covered." https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/04/appimages-libfuse2-ubuntu-23-04 [03:24] TR Bot How to Enable AppImage Support in Ubuntu 23.04 - OMG! 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All-time record? [03:32] TR News Postfix SASL Configuration gopher://gopher.unixlore.net:70/1/glog [03:32] TR News "Tomorrow will be the year anniversary of the first post I made to Gemini" gemini://lesogorov.site/glogs/2304/Dating-Apps-Suck-2:-Electric-Boogaloo.gmi [03:33] DaemonFC https://www.foxbusiness.com/personal-finance/inflation-battered-retirement-savings-2022 [03:33] TR Bot Inflation battered retirement savings in 2022 | Fox Business [03:33] TR News notes about Firefox gemini://gemini.thebackupbox.net/~epoch/blog/firefox "/I/ prefer to not use DNS over HTTPS because I run my own DNS servers and would prefer for everything on my network to use them." [03:33] DaemonFC "A new study found 1 in 4 Americans cut back on saving for retirement in 2022 due to high inflation." [03:34] DaemonFC Yeah, if it's eating into your employer match you really need to find something else to cut. [03:34] TR News "I found that about:config option privacy.resistFingerprinting has a feature that breaks light and dark mode css styling. so if you're scratching your head why websites stay stuck in light mode even if about:config's style changes, it is probably this." gemini://gemini.thebackupbox.net/~epoch/blog/darkmode [03:35] TR News "Surprisingly, I am really fond of this device -- even though it is pretty much an undocumented hodgepodge of weird crap. However, it is _a lot_ of weird crap in there, and the CPU is interesting." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-04-24.esp32.gmi [03:36] *oarion7 has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [03:36] TR News Online Gambling gemini://rawtext.club/~winter/gemlog/2023/4-24.gmi "Or maybe it should just be called gambling? I don't know. Regardless, the ads are everywhere. I've been a baseball fan since I was a teenager." [03:37] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D898.jpg [03:37] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D572.jpg [03:39] TR News gemini://lesogorov.site/glogs/2304/Dating-Apps-Suck-2:-Electric-Boogaloo.gmi "I've come to realize that many of the things I described are just part of the game of online dating. Being left without a response is par for the course, along with unprompted unmatching." [03:40] TR News "Recently, I got into a debate with a friend of mine about whether AI art is.. art and whether is should be allowed in commercial projects. He is on the position that it is not as it can only mix and replicate existing works." gemini://gemini.clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2023/04-24-armchair-philosopher-on-defining-creativity.gmi [03:41] TR News "I caught this nice sunrise on the way into work, about 6am." gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20230424-0.gmi [03:41] TR News Gemini even has bible stuff these days... gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/your-word/20230423-0.gmi [03:43] TR News Andy Wingo: structure and interpretation of nativescript https://wingolog.org/archives/2023/04/24/structure-and-interpretation-of-nativescript [03:43] TR Bot structure and interpretation of nativescript -- wingolog [03:45] TR News Luis Villa: says he uses "iPad"... lectures us about freedom?? https://lu.is/blog/2023/04/24/notes-on-using-freedom-to-block-digital-distractions/ [03:45] TR Bot Notes on using Freedom to block digital distractions Luis Villa: Open Tech and Policy [03:48] TR News Akonadi with SQLite on FreeBSD https://euroquis.nl//freebsd/2023/04/24/akonadi.html [03:48] TR Bot Akonadi with SQLite on FreeBSD | [bobulate] [03:49] TR News Kernel Podcast: S2E4 2023/04/24 https://kernelpodcast.org/2023/04/24/s2e4-2023-04-24/ [03:49] TR Bot S2E4 2023/04/24 Linux Kernel Podcast [03:50] TR News Linux Plumbers Conference: eBPF & Networking Track https://lpc.events/blog/current/index.php/2023/04/24/networking-and-bpf-track/ [03:50] TR Bot eBPF & Networking Track Linux Plumbers Conference [03:52] TR News The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 784 https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2023/04/24/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-784/ [03:52] TR Bot Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 784 [03:53] TR News Red Hat: come back to the office or you're fired. Oh, here you are. You're fired anyway. [03:55] DaemonFC schestowitz, Just ordered another shipment of coffee. [03:56] schestowitz mir Putin in Rupei got 15 packs [03:56] schestowitz 8+7 [03:56] schestowitz oops [03:56] schestowitz i got 15 packs [03:56] schestowitz "mir Putin in Rupe" [03:56] DaemonFC 2 Tim Hortons Colombian Roast and 3 Tim Hortons Decaf. [03:56] schestowitz that's me searchig the channel earlier [03:56] DaemonFC schestowitz, I finally got my checkbook for the money market today. [03:57] DaemonFC The post office did not leave a note. I had to go to the window and say I had been expecting a package from the bank. [03:57] DaemonFC Anyway, I did the math. If my landlord takes his usual sweet time to deposit the check, then I will earn about $20 a year in interest by leaving the money in the money market while he's getting around to it. [03:57] DaemonFC But as long as he gets the check before the first, I am not late on the rent. [03:58] TR News What Frightens Me the Most About Stock Investing? AI (Microsoft, Google, Coca-Cola..) Bonus: Crypto and Samsung https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/04/25/what-frightens-me-the-most-about-stock-investing-ai-microsoft-google-coca-cola-bonus-crypto-and-samsung/ [03:58] TR Bot What Frightens Me the Most About Stock Investing? AI (Microsoft, Google, Coca-Cola..) Bonus: Crypto and Samsung | BaronHK's Rants [03:58] DaemonFC So I get to earn a little money on the money I've already paid him. [03:58] DaemonFC I expect rent will go up another $50 or so next renewal if he still owns the building. [03:58] DaemonFC At which point, leaving the money invested for the turnaround time will earn about $25-26 a year. [03:58] DaemonFC I mean, it isn't nothing. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [03:59] DaemonFC If you pay the landlord on Zelle, the money gets debited from your account and stops earning interest right away. ● Apr 25 [04:00] TR News Annual Report: The Document Foundation in 2022 https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2023/04/24/annual-report-the-document-foundation-in-2022/ [04:00] TR Bot Annual Report: The Document Foundation in 2022 - The Document Foundation Blog [04:00] DaemonFC So the interest while the check is in the mail and then in his queue to be deposited earns much more than the cost of the stamp to mail it in. [04:00] DaemonFC :) [04:01] TR News Xorg back to old-school without libinput https://bkhome.org/news/202304/xorg-back-to-old-school-without-libinput.html [04:01] TR Bot Xorg back to old-school without libinput [04:04] TR News (NEW): LibreOffice, LibreArts, and Luis Villa Talking About Freedom While Using iPad http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LibreOffice_LibreArts_and_Luis_Villa_Talking_About_Freedom_Whil.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LibreOffice_LibreArts_and_Luis_Villa_Talking_About_Freedom_Whil.gmi [04:04] TR Bot Tux Machines LibreOffice, LibreArts, and Luis Villa Talking About Freedom While Using iPad [04:04] TR News (NEW): LINUX Unplugged Episode 507 and Kernel Podcast S2E4 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LINUX_Unplugged_Episode_507_and_Kernel_Podcast_S2E4.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/LINUX_Unplugged_Episode_507_and_Kernel_Podcast_S2E4.gmi [04:04] TR Bot Tux Machines LINUX Unplugged Episode 507 and Kernel Podcast S2E4 [04:04] TR News (NEW): OpenEmbedded and EasyOS Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/OpenEmbedded_and_EasyOS_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/OpenEmbedded_and_EasyOS_Updates.gmi [04:04] TR Bot Tux Machines OpenEmbedded and EasyOS Updates [04:06] TR News Techrights Bulletin for Monday, April 24, 2023 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives [04:06] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:06] TR News Techrights full IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt [04:06] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:06] schestowitz schestowitz, I finally got my checkbook for the money market today. [04:06] schestowitz wow [04:06] schestowitz they still ship these? [04:07] DaemonFC Yes. [04:07] DaemonFC I still request checks and I pay the landlord with them. [04:07] schestowitz good. [04:07] schestowitz people need to keep these available [04:07] schestowitz and still around [04:07] schestowitz not just very old people. [04:07] DaemonFC I don't want to use "apps" and money orders keep getting more expensive. [04:07] DaemonFC Why should I pay $1.65 just to pay someone? [04:08] DaemonFC That shit adds up! [04:08] TR News Rupert Murdoch still pushing the lie of "worker shortage" or "skills shortage". Gaslighting the victims. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/employers-say-hiring-workers-is-a-struggle-despite-layoffs-jr735st5t [04:08] TR Bot Employers say hiring workers is a struggle despite layoffs [04:09] DaemonFC schestowitz, When I was at my attorney's office she said I could pay immigration with credit cards "for a fee" so I wrote them a check. I told her there's no way to even know when they'd run my credit card. [04:10] DaemonFC So I wrote the check and said "Let me see here.....department of homeland stupidity.....no that's not right." [04:10] schestowitz https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-obsessed-with-ai-meta-facebook-change-name-metai-2023-4?r=US&IR=T [04:10] TR Bot Mark Zuckerberg's AI Obsession: Could Facebook Change Its Name Again? [04:10] schestowitz lol [04:10] schestowitz fluff [04:10] schestowitz https://www.marketwatch.com/story/after-a-2-trillion-stock-rebound-big-tech-wades-into-sea-of-uncertainty-eba2ea66 [04:10] TR Bot After a $2 trillion stock rebound, Big Tech wades into sea of uncertainty - MarketWatch [04:11] schestowitz offloading people's money into bubbles [04:11] schestowitz this won't end well [04:12] schestowitz what has "the media" become? [04:12] schestowitz rah rah PR churnalism [04:13] DaemonFC schestowitz, They had Biden's Disinformation Minister singing a "Marry Poppins" song on TikTok, a big source of disinformation. Ironic, right? [04:13] DaemonFC Anyway, they should have done a follow up of the song about putting your money in the bank last month. [04:13] DaemonFC :) [04:14] DaemonFC They want the kid to put his money in the bank and sing about it earning compounding interest. [04:14] DaemonFC And of course he's a kid so he wants to run off and use it to buy feed for the pigeons. [04:16] DaemonFC https://invidious.lunar.icu/watch?v=_cerBB6nVHM [04:16] TR Bot Fidelity Fiduciary Bank (From "Mary Poppins"/Soundtrack Version) - Invidious [04:18] DaemonFC schestowitz, Amusingly, they tell him what the bank invests the money in to earn the interest, as well. [04:18] DaemonFC Imperialism. [04:18] schestowitz banking [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:21] TR News Nym Technologies for Privacy - and Freedom - on GNU/Linux | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/nym-libreplanet-ahmed-ghappour/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/24/nym-libreplanet-ahmed-ghappour/ [04:21] TR Bot Nym Technologies for Privacy and Freedom on GNU/Linux | Techrights [04:21] DaemonFC schestowitz, At least that much never changes. [04:21] DaemonFC Well, it has for the UK. [04:21] DaemonFC All you get is Prime Minister Restaurant Scheme. [04:21] DaemonFC Old what's his nuts. [04:21] DaemonFC People that can't pay their light bill. [04:21] schestowitz 2020? [04:21] schestowitz wait, that was before [04:22] DaemonFC Media says your big problem is fish & chips shops closing. [04:22] schestowitz almost 2 eyears before russia invade [04:22] schestowitz many shops [04:22] schestowitz not just foods [04:22] schestowitz we still find some pennies to run a coronation party [04:22] schestowitz god save de queeeeen [04:22] DaemonFC Yeah, fish & chips is still relatively affordable in the US. [04:22] DaemonFC Especially at home. [04:23] DaemonFC You can just buy bags of frozen breaded fish (Gortons or something) and a bag of fries and fry it all yourself. [04:23] DaemonFC I use a spray bottle of oil and an air fryer to cut down on the cooking oil we use. [04:23] DaemonFC Not the canned oil, because that will ruin your frying basket. [04:24] DaemonFC But you just pour regular olive oil into a spray bottle. [04:28] DaemonFC schestowitz, I was singing that song in the shower while SVB was failing. [04:29] DaemonFC Just to amuse myself. [04:29] DaemonFC The kid accidentally causes a run on the bank at the end by panicking everyone. [04:31] DaemonFC schestowitz, I just don't see much in the way of investments with decent interest and short term liquidity other than no penalty CDs right now. [04:32] DaemonFC If you invest it in Savings Bonds right now you will need to hold them for at least a year. True, even if you withdraw them and take the 3 month penalty, you'd earn at least 4.48% still. [04:32] DaemonFC But then you're back where you are with a no penalty CD, with the only perk being you don't owe state income tax on the interest. [04:35] TR News The Clown Computing and ‘AI Bubble | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/the-clown-computing-and-ai-bubble/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/24/the-clown-computing-and-ai-bubble/ [04:35] TR Bot The Clown Computing and AI Bubble | Techrights [04:40] TR News You can use Markdown to format your post [04:40] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [04:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [04:49] TR News (NEW): Events: Linux App Summit, Open Source Summit North America, and Linux Plumbers Conference http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Events_Linux_App_Summit_Open_Source_Summit_North_America_and_Li.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Events_Linux_App_Summit_Open_Source_Summit_North_America_and_Li.gmi [04:49] TR Bot Tux Machines Events: Linux App Summit, Open Source Summit North America, and Linux Plumbers Conference [04:49] TR News (NEW): Fedora Magazine and Other Fedora News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Fedora_Magazine_and_Other_Fedora_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Fedora_Magazine_and_Other_Fedora_News.gmi [04:49] TR Bot Tux Machines Fedora Magazine and Other Fedora News [04:50] TR News (NEW): Akonadi with SQLite on FreeBSD http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Akonadi_with_SQLite_on_FreeBSD.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Akonadi_with_SQLite_on_FreeBSD.gmi [04:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Akonadi with SQLite on FreeBSD [04:50] TR News (NEW): Proprietary Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Proprietary_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Proprietary_Leftovers.gmi [04:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Proprietary Leftovers [04:50] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and More Ubuntu News http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_More_Ubuntu_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Ubuntu_Weekly_Newsletter_and_More_Ubuntu_News.gmi [04:50] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter and More Ubuntu News [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [05:10] DaemonFC schestowitz, It's really funny watching CEOs scream about "worker shortage" and "disloyal workers". [05:10] DaemonFC Loyalty is earned. When you turn employment into some low wage Hell where the employees have no input and it's hostile and toxic, what do you think happens if they can find a job that pays even $1 an hour more? [05:11] DaemonFC Loyal employees are basically, they were my dad's type. [05:11] DaemonFC They came to work every day for over three decades. Never called off sick. Maybe used their vacation time with plenty of notice. But they poured their life into this company and got screwed badly. [05:12] DaemonFC At the end they just wipe the pension and fire you by email now. [05:12] DaemonFC And they wonder why people hate, despise, and distrust them all. [05:12] DaemonFC The end comes soon for some. [05:13] schestowitz draft, DaemonFC [05:13] DaemonFC Nobody likes you when you're 40, at established tech companies. [05:13] schestowitz relates to yyour post [05:13] DaemonFC One day, GULAG will wake up to an email or text from Aurora. [05:13] schestowitz it's mentioned [05:13] DaemonFC Soon! [05:13] DaemonFC He couldn't hack it at Google and won't even say why he left, on the record, near as I can figure. [05:14] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/buzzwords-business/ [05:14] TR Bot One Common Theme is That Companies That Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto | Techrights [05:14] schestowitz draf [05:14] DaemonFC Nobody pulling down a good salary at an established employer with a positive balance sheet would leave on their own accord unless they were insane. [05:14] schestowitz DaemonFC:see above [05:15] DaemonFC "The chaffbots arent even producing useful output. Theyre full of errors. Its not viable." [05:16] DaemonFC Code that doesn't work or has serious errors. [05:16] DaemonFC Or is flat-out stolen. [05:16] schestowitz yes [05:16] schestowitz you waste a lot of timing fixing it [05:16] DaemonFC Can't do simple math. [05:16] schestowitz and it is not code you grasp [05:16] schestowitz waste of time [05:16] DaemonFC Can't answer questions about interest or coupons. [05:16] schestowitz and it has gpl violations (open hey hi copilot)( [05:16] DaemonFC Told me a tornado touched down in Waukegan on April 29th, 2023. [05:16] DaemonFC :D [05:17] DaemonFC I asked Google Bard for a list of tornadoes that touched down in Waukegan since 1950. [05:17] DaemonFC It was wrong about all of them and told me one of them happened in the future. [05:17] schestowitz lol [05:17] schestowitz gish gallop [05:18] schestowitz gobbledegook [05:18] schestowitz word spew [05:18] schestowitz blme the media for thbis too [05:18] schestowitz bribes liars [05:18] schestowitz likem spamnil [05:18] schestowitz hyping u[ hey hi for years [05:18] schestowitz and chaffbots [05:18] schestowitz when msft paid them to [05:19] DaemonFC Matt GULAG told me he wouldn't advise investing in Aurora and that he doesn't. [05:19] DaemonFC It's basically a way to con investors who don't know any better and then bleed it like a stuck pig for paychecks until the company falls over. [05:19] schestowitz yes [05:19] schestowitz exactly [05:19] schestowitz selling fantasies [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:20] DaemonFC Make it fat with "VC" and then siphon. [05:20] DaemonFC Declare bankruptcy. [05:20] schestowitz keep salarn aside [05:20] schestowitz banks ask for bailout [05:20] schestowitz taxpayers [05:20] schestowitz population impoverished [05:20] schestowitz austerity [05:20] DaemonFC It's no different than running around stealing gas out of people's tanks for your car. [05:20] schestowitz while the con jobs hoard capital [05:20] DaemonFC Except it happens on a very big scale and "white collar". [05:21] DaemonFC You're not buying gas with your income. You benefit at someone else's expense. [05:21] DaemonFC Whatever you drained from their tank into your gas can. [05:22] DaemonFC The Fed is going to kill Aurora pretty soon. [05:22] DaemonFC Companies like this are now being largely cut off from cheap debt-fueled finance. [05:23] mjg59_ DaemonFC: No, I said I wouldn't advise that people hold significant amounts of stock in their employer, no matter who that is [05:23] DaemonFC I wouldn't count Walmart out. [05:24] DaemonFC They'll be around a long time after Aurora is gone. [05:24] TR News One Common Theme is That Companies Which Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and ‘Crypto | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/buzzwords-business/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/24/buzzwords-business/ [05:24] TR Bot One Common Theme is That Companies Which Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto | Techrights [05:24] mjg59_ It doesn't make sense to have your salary and your investments depend on the same company [05:24] DaemonFC They close stores in Democrat Shitholes like California where there is no justice system. [05:25] DaemonFC The legal system in California is based on the voters there, which are stupid assholes who will pass anything that sounds vaguely social-justice-ey. [05:25] DaemonFC Now there's no penalty for organized retail theft and all the stores close. [05:25] DaemonFC :) [05:25] schestowitz that's the system [05:25] DaemonFC Nothing to punish the looters, so they loot. [05:26] DaemonFC Taxes twice as high as any other state. [05:26] schestowitz white-collar criminals defend other white-collar criminals [05:26] schestowitz but they don't tolerate "petty thieves" [05:26] schestowitz they don't do the theft "With style" [05:26] DaemonFC A political party that thinks everything will be electric and you don't need any electricity to run it. [05:26] DaemonFC Why stay? [05:27] DaemonFC Yeah, I mean the laws ARE there to punish white collar criminals a lot harder. [05:28] DaemonFC A lot of them commit wire fraud, violate the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, deceptive practices, lie to the IRS (and the state), make false statements to investors, make false statements to the SEC, and the list goes on for a mile. [05:28] DaemonFC Then they get a slap on the wrist. [05:28] DaemonFC So white collar crime costs the US economy about $200 billion a year. It's that bad. [05:28] DaemonFC "Blue collar crime" costs about $16 billion. [05:28] DaemonFC But the prisons are full of poor people. [05:29] DaemonFC Even though every crime they do put together is hardly 5% as damaging to the economy. [05:29] DaemonFC The government doesn't investigate white collar crime too much unless it becomes impossible to hide. [05:30] DaemonFC These cases are complex, they're hard to investigate. The people who do it are "untouchable" anyway. [05:30] DaemonFC So they focus on the small business owner with a big sign on her ice cream shop. [05:30] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [05:31] DaemonFC If Bill Gates was a poor pedophile, the police would just do a no knock warrant. [05:31] DaemonFC Yank him out of his house in his underwear in the middle of the night. [05:32] DaemonFC He has "people" bring him "the stuff". [05:32] DaemonFC He would never risk doing it on his home network or in a US state. [05:32] DaemonFC So they have yachts that go out into the middle of the ocean. [05:32] DaemonFC They have people to bring them the smut over the sneakernet. [05:33] DaemonFC Then there's no way for the cops to even come up with a chain of evidence. [05:33] DaemonFC There's really no good excuse for a guy like Rick Allen Jones to have ever been in the Gates Mansion. [05:33] DaemonFC Everyone knows that he was Bill's Cheese Pizza delivery man. [05:34] DaemonFC It doesn't make sense to have your salary and your investments depend on the same company [05:34] DaemonFC There's a Walmart employee stock purchase plan that has a 15% discount on shares. [05:35] DaemonFC It does match 15% up to the first $1,800 you buy per year. [05:35] DaemonFC Technically you CAN dump it immediately but you'd be making a short term capital gain. [05:36] DaemonFC If you wait a year, you can take the long term rate, which is 0%. [05:36] DaemonFC Your cost basis will be 15% lower than the share price the date your paycheck went out and the sale price will be whatever the public can buy it for in a year. [05:36] DaemonFC You pay no capital gains. [05:37] DaemonFC It does actually make sense to buy $1,800 worth of the stock each year and get the discount and then sell it at the long term capital gain rate. If you can. [05:37] DaemonFC Scoop and toss. [05:38] DaemonFC And if some of it goes down vs what you paid, you can take a tax write off of the difference. [05:38] DaemonFC It can be a totally decent way to earn a little money on the side. [05:39] DaemonFC As long as the shares don't fall more than 15% in the year you have to hold them, you make at least some profit and don't pay tax on it. [05:40] DaemonFC If you want to toss them as soon as you can after buying them, FIFO accounting for acquisition and sale works well. [05:41] DaemonFC mjg59_, I guess if your employer is a volatile cash furnace, you can't bet that you'd probably profit. [05:41] DaemonFC Even if they sold it to you at a discount. [05:42] DaemonFC I try to toss my shares after the earnings report. If the earnings report causes the shares to drop, then I just hold and wait for the next opportunity. [05:43] DaemonFC TurboTax clued me in to the fact that I should be doing this when I noticed that I could take a long term rate of zero. [05:43] DaemonFC It's tax free income on the gain and it's hard not to gain. [05:44] DaemonFC You manage it through BofA. [05:44] DaemonFC And there's no fees for dumping it. [05:45] DaemonFC So basically even the lowest paid employees at Walmar could be making hundreds of dollars in capital gains each year, if they want to. [05:45] DaemonFC And paying nothing on it. [05:45] DaemonFC They just have to be willing to tie up some money for a little while. [05:46] DaemonFC You could dump it immediately but then your tax rate would be the same as your income tax rate. [05:46] DaemonFC The tax code rewards people who hang onto things for a while before selling. [05:47] DaemonFC You can use Schedule D for all sorts of things, including selling coin that you bought earlier and realizing a profit. [05:47] DaemonFC Anyway, mjg59_ $1,800 is a fair chunk of a typical Walmart employee's paycheck. [05:48] DaemonFC So it requires discipline and it's also the stock of the company they work at. [05:49] DaemonFC I'll wait while you go load Wiktionary or something to read up that discipline means something other than whatever you and Buffy are into. [05:50] DaemonFC schestowitz, Picard was a great series from start to finish. [05:50] DaemonFC But Vadic was probably the best Star Trek villain so far. [05:52] DaemonFC "The shrike is a small bird, but it is a predator. It picks apart its prey, piece by piece. It is a survivor. And so am I." [05:54] TR News (UPDATED): Arch-based blendOS has a Cool Trick up its Sleeve http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Arch_based_blendOS_has_a_Cool_Trick_up_its_Sleeve.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Arch_based_blendOS_has_a_Cool_Trick_up_its_Sleeve.gmi [05:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Arch-based blendOS has a Cool Trick up its Sleeve [05:55] TR News (NEW): Alternatives to popular CLI tools for Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Alternatives_to_popular_CLI_tools_for_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Alternatives_to_popular_CLI_tools_for_Linux.gmi [05:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Alternatives to popular CLI tools for Linux [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [05:59] DaemonFC "At least I went out with guns blazing" has never really been my strategy for dealing with confrontation. I just pick apart the opponent a piece at a time. In ways they think I'm too provincial to have considered. ● Apr 25 [06:00] DaemonFC In ways they never would have anticipated. [06:00] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.gmi [06:00] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [06:01] DaemonFC I appreciated Vadic for what she was. She didn't start out very confrontational at all. She tried making them think she was there as a mercenary to retrieve a pirate she had been assigned to catch. It was only when it didn't work that she resorted to attack, in stages. [06:02] DaemonFC It was what the Founders should have been in DS9. [06:02] DaemonFC The series was terrible. It plodded along. The Dominion War never felt threatening. [06:06] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_leftovers.gmi [06:06] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:26] DaemonFC mjg59_, There's also the fact that a majority of Americans are pressured to shop at Walmart now. [06:26] DaemonFC Even MARISOL had to stop getting her truck water. [06:56] DaemonFC but they don't tolerate "petty thieves" [06:57] DaemonFC We gave the cops the security camera footage of John getting mugged the first time in Chicago. [06:57] DaemonFC They didn't solve it. [06:57] DaemonFC The guy was on the video grinning for the camera and they didn't solve it. [06:57] DaemonFC The second time he got mugged, the renter's insurance policy paid me about $700 to replace his stuff. [06:58] DaemonFC I'll take it off what he owes me. [06:58] DaemonFC His dumb ass also managed to get me another $600 this year. They say that's what the check will be for the insurance company settling for the BIPA violation. [06:58] DaemonFC He still owes me more. [06:59] DaemonFC If I got ten more checks this size it would just about cover the damages, honestly. [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [07:00] DaemonFC $5,000 in attorneys fees and court filing fees to put out that fire. [07:00] DaemonFC There's not a place in Hell hot enough for him to burn. [07:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mandy was amused with me pulling out the checkbook to write the payments for the landlord and the utilities. [07:04] DaemonFC I asked him what he thought people did before debit cards. [07:04] DaemonFC They don't teach balancing your checkbook in school anymore. [07:04] DaemonFC They don't teach driver's education. [07:04] DaemonFC They got rid of art and music. [07:05] DaemonFC Now they want them to drop out and work at 15. [07:05] DaemonFC :) [07:05] DaemonFC It was always coming to this I guess, once Creepy Uncle Bill and Fuckerberg paid off the politicians to use Common Core. [07:05] DaemonFC "You only need to teach them math and reading." [07:05] DaemonFC Half can't do either? [07:05] DaemonFC Okay, put em on a burrito assembly line. [07:06] DaemonFC The app can figure out what the customer owes. [07:06] DaemonFC We'll get rid of their jobs with a robot arm eventually. [07:06] DaemonFC Great success! [07:06] DaemonFC They don't care about a well rounded individual. [07:07] DaemonFC They don't care about teaching them the importance of art. [07:07] DaemonFC Now all they care about is having them on a hamburger assembly line at 15 while they work the bugs out of the robot arm. [07:07] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [07:07] DaemonFC Society is finished. There is no art anymore. [07:08] DaemonFC You flip on the radio and it's just some idiot using the N word a lot and rapping about his crack. [07:08] DaemonFC They train GPT to say that this is art and you just need to appreciate their culture. [07:08] DaemonFC :) [07:09] DaemonFC The only places left to get an education usually are Christian schools. [07:10] DaemonFC They cost a lot of money and they're the only one that resists Creepy Uncle Bill gAIDS. [07:10] DaemonFC The liberals are in there replacing math class with a lesson on getting your penis cut off when you're older, say 12 or so. [07:11] DaemonFC It's terrible. [07:11] DaemonFC Head Start (on turning into Uncle Jessica) [07:12] DaemonFC It doesn't make sense to have your salary and your investments depend on the same company [07:12] DaemonFC I noticed you went silent when I recommended dumping $1,800 a year into Walmart stock if you work at Walmart. [07:13] DaemonFC Technically it's not a discount, it's extra stock for free. But what it cost you doesn't really matter when you sell it at long term tax rates with the pay of a Walmart worker. [07:17] DaemonFC You're basically saying no to $270 in free stock every year you work there. You can sell it the next year and pay no taxes on whatever the capital gains end up being. Even if you sell it at face value, you're essentially telling them not to pay you an extra 13 cents an hour by not doing it. But Walmart stock usually appreciates over time. [07:18] DaemonFC Since there's FIFO accounting, it's not just dollar cost averaging at work here like a retirement plan. [07:19] DaemonFC If you want to hurry up and dump some of the extra shares you acquired at a loss before holding them exactly a year, you can do that, lower your tax bill, and still at the very worst break even. [07:19] DaemonFC That's because if you held it for less than a year, you can dump and the Schedule D will reflect a Short Term capital loss, which is at your income tax rate. [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] DaemonFC So you can cut your taxes by declaring a loss on some of your shares and then sell the rest later, the ones that have appreciated. [07:21] DaemonFC You'd hang onto the ones that they give you that would be considered a 100% gain and sell out of the ones that you purchased. [07:22] DaemonFC This is surprisingly legal. [07:22] DaemonFC You can use the Associate Stock Purchase program to profit and still declare a tax loss. [07:22] DaemonFC By using FIFO accounting and tactical selling. [07:24] DaemonFC That's because the "loss" would be out of shares you paid for at the short term rate that you held for under one year, and the "profit" would be on the ones you got from Walmart and held for at least a year at the long term rate on a future year's tax filing. [07:26] DaemonFC I suppose you could also do it on the same return. [07:26] DaemonFC It's one calendar year, not one tax year. [07:27] DaemonFC It's set up this way on purpose. [07:28] DaemonFC Stock trading rules mainly benefit the rich and they know how to structure things like this on an enormous scale. [07:29] DaemonFC Meanwhile, they corrupt the public schools so that everyone else is loading up on credit card debt and can't balance a checkbook. [07:29] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [07:29] DaemonFC I don't think the money markets are going to slow down much. [07:30] DaemonFC I'm going to see what the Federal Reserve does with interest rates and where that takes CDs. [07:30] DaemonFC I might pull them all early (no penalty) and buy fresh ones if the rate goes up. [07:33] DaemonFC Walmart's revenue and net income are doing a lot better lately than they usually do. [07:33] DaemonFC Like I said, more people have to shop there. [07:33] DaemonFC It's the economy, stupid! [07:34] DaemonFC schestowitz, Tesla investors reacted badly to the price cuts. [07:34] DaemonFC Stock down 10% in one day. [07:35] DaemonFC https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-ship-china-model-y-to-canada-tsla-stock-keeps-falling/ [07:35] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.investors.com/news/tesla-ship-china-model-y-to-canada-tsla-stock-keeps-falling/ ) [07:35] DaemonFC They have no pricing strategy. [07:35] DaemonFC Musk fucked Tesla bad when he made the decision to use foreign-made battery components and materials and GM and Ford didn't. [07:36] DaemonFC If you thought the cars were shit before, wait until they have to cut corners to deal with this. [07:37] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-fox-news-exit-162319291.html [07:37] TR Bot Tucker Carlsons Fox News Exit Erases $507 Million in Value [07:38] DaemonFC Carlson's firing triggered a stock selloff that was almost the size of what they lost in the settlement. [07:41] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-deepening-selloff-shows-investors-040140031.html [07:41] TR Bot Chinas Deepening Selloff Shows Investors Are Losing Confidence [07:42] DaemonFC The US markets certainly have their flaws, there's no doubt about it. But we're a relatively free market to invest in compared with China. [07:43] DaemonFC Had the government not listened to Education Expert Creepy Bill the workforce quality may not have deteriorated to the point where China is overcoming the fact that the government may not even let you have your money or could seize your business with no warning. [07:44] DaemonFC https://www.barrons.com/articles/bud-light-exec-takes-leave-after-boycott-calls-15a86829?siteid=yhoof2 [07:44] TR Bot Two Bud Light Execs Leave After Calls to Boycott | Barron's [07:45] DaemonFC The real scandal shouldn't be their tranny issues. [07:45] DaemonFC It should be that a beer company whose customers are mainly conservative thought they should partner with a TikTok Tranny to do what exactly? [07:45] DaemonFC "Influencer" [07:46] DaemonFC Their beer isn't particularly good. [07:46] DaemonFC Its selling points are it's cheap and they have rebates all the time, making it super cheap. ● Apr 25 [08:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [08:23] DaemonFC Nitter works again. [08:23] DaemonFC ": @Twitter has quietly removed a section of its hateful conduct policy that aimed to protect transgender people from targeted misgendering and deadnaming." [08:24] DaemonFC Matt GULAG re-tweeted. [08:24] DaemonFC From Twitter. [08:24] DaemonFC :) [08:24] DaemonFC mjg59_, :D [08:24] schestowitz tesla is a joke [08:24] schestowitz it is worthless [08:24] DaemonFC How does it feel to be on Gab, Matt? [08:24] schestowitz it may never make a dine for shareholders [08:26] TR News The 6.3 kernel is released https://lwn.net/Articles/929851/ [08:26] TR Bot 6.3 kernel is released [LWN.net] [08:26] DaemonFC "You can't require people have a Twitter account to file a DMCA takedown request. The law just doesn't work that way. And nor can you ignore requests that come from people without accounts, unless you're ok losing your Safe Harbor protections." [08:26] DaemonFC -GULAG [08:26] DaemonFC So what did he do? Make it an autoresponder with a shit emoji? [08:27] DaemonFC schestowitz, When I had AT&T DSL it kept sending me email about being infected by a virus that was "using IRC". [08:27] DaemonFC So you had to reply "I am taking steps to address this infection." or they'd terminate your account. [08:27] DaemonFC So I set up an autoreply to that email that kept saying that. [08:30] TR News San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department shuts down internet systems following recent cyberattack https://abc7.com/san-bernardino-cyberattack-ransomware-hyperlink/13176620/ [08:30] TR Bot Bernardino County Sheriff's Department shuts down internet systems following recent cyberattack - ABC7 Los Angeles [08:30] TR News Yellow Pages Canada confirms cyber attack as Black Basta leaks data https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/yellow-pages-canada-confirms-cyber-attack-as-black-basta-leaks-data/ [08:30] TR Bot Yellow Pages Canada confirms cyber attack as Black Basta leaks data [08:31] TR News Naivas Supermarkets System Hacked, Data Stolen https://www.databreaches.net/naivas-supermarkets-system-hacked-data-stolen/ [08:31] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/naivas-supermarkets-system-hacked-data-stolen/ ) [08:32] TR News (NEW): What's new in GNOME 44 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/What_s_new_in_GNOME_44.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/What_s_new_in_GNOME_44.gmi [08:32] TR Bot Tux Machines What's new in GNOME 44 [08:35] schestowitz-TR https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mjWkWja#replies [08:35] TR Bot Earnings are today - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs [08:35] *ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:36] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:36] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi [08:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [08:36] *cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [08:37] TR News (NEW): Programming: nativescript and Rust http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_nativescript_and_Rust.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_nativescript_and_Rust.gmi [08:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming: nativescript and Rust [08:37] schestowitz schestowitz, When I had AT&T DSL it kept sending me email about being infected by a virus that was "using IRC". [08:38] schestowitz * DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:38] schestowitz * DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:38] schestowitz connection terminated for the rime of using IRC [08:39] *ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights [08:44] TR News IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 24, 2023 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/irc-log-240423/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/irc-log-240423/ [08:44] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Monday, April 24, 2023 | Techrights [08:48] *cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights [08:56] TR News Microsofts Share in China: From Web Dominance to Almost Nothing in Less Than a Decade | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/loss-of-dominance/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/loss-of-dominance/ [08:56] TR Bot Microsofts Share in China: From Web Dominance to Almost Nothing in Less Than a Decade | Techrights [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [09:00] TR News Error mounting /dev/sdb2 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2, missing codepage or helper program, or other error gemini://nuacht.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-error-mounting.gmi [09:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@2ppr4t4a8xnvs.irc) has joined #techrights [09:01] TR News "It was I guess "technically" the first chatbot to use GPT-4, and I would say it is still the best one currently on the market. Initially rolled on February 7th, it was memed at launch. Not only did it make errors, it made headlines when it seemingly tried to convince people it wanted to be human, along with flirting with people." gemini://linuxnerd.smol.pub/4-24-2023 [09:01] schestowitz DaemonFC: disconnected for using irc [09:02] TR News Album #244: B.B. King - Live at the Regal gemini://hammock.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-244-bb-king-live-at-the-regal.gmi [09:03] TR News "The good songs are great. There just aren't that many great songs on here. By the end it really starts tailing off. It's a quintessential solo effort after a band breaks up: some good ideas, but too much filler." gemini://hammock.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-243-george-michael-faith.gmi [09:03] DaemonFC Installing updates. [09:04] TR News "The marketers are at it again, whipping up a public frenzy with generative AI. To be fair, it's pretty amazing, but once again it is not what it looks like, and the backlash will inevitably come, bringing yet another AI winter." gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2023-04-25.ai.gmi [09:05] TR News "I thought back on my time when I was really active in the nosurf subreddit. I used to be one of the three taking care of the project around 2018/19; I helped moderate the subreddit, build the site, write articles for the blog, make informative threads on the forum and so on (as anthymnx)" gemini://daintyeco.smol.pub/thoughtsonnosrf [09:06] TR News Splitting French and English capsules gemini://albertlarsan68.flounder.online/gemlog/2023-04-24-split-french-english.gmi "I was posting both french and english posts on this capsule, but since I created a new one, I will only post english posts here." [09:08] TR News "So a few years ago I was in a Discord chat for /r/worldbuilding. I was talking to one of the mods, who happened to be running a web comic at the time. As it turned out, the comic is mostly horror-themed, which is /entirely/ not my cup of tea, so I don't actually read it." gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/not-a-merc.gmi [09:09] TR News "... or, we're buying a house!" gopher://alexkarle.com/0/phlog/035.txt [09:13] TR News "While the jury will hear the recordings of both songs, probably many times" https://www.ctvnews.ca/entertainment/ed-sheeran-hit-marvin-gaye-classic-soul-of-copyright-trial-1.6368114 | Source: CTV News [09:13] TR Bot Ed Sheeran-Marvin Gaye copyright trial begins | CTV News [09:13] TR News "The music industry is keenly interested in the outcome" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/24/arts/music/ed-sheeran-marvin-gaye-copyright-trial.html | Source: New York Times [09:13] TR Bot Ed Sheeran Trial: Did He Copy Marvin Gaye? Heres What to Know. - The New York Times [09:14] TR News "The heirs of Ed Townsend, who co-wrote the 1973 soul classic, are suing Sheeran" https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-24/ed-sheeran-sued-by-for-copyright-violation-of-marvin-gaye-song/102262156 | Source: ABC [09:14] TR Bot Ed Sheeran to face trial over copyright claim involving Marvin Gaye's Let's Get it On - ABC News [09:14] TR News "The lawsuit filed in 2017 has finally made it to a trial that is expected to last a week in the Manhattan federal courtroom of 95-year-old Judge Louis L. Stanton." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/04/24/ed-sheeran-copyright-lawsuit-marvin-gaye-townsend/b345f58c-e25d-11ed-9696-8e874fd710b8_story.html | Source: The Washington Post [09:14] TR Bot Did Ed Sheeran hit pilfer Marvin Gaye classic? Trial to tell - The Washington Post [09:15] TR News "the patent itself does not mention Meteor Lake" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-patent-reveals-meteor-lake-adamantine-l4-cache | Source: Tom's Hardware [09:15] TR Bot Intel's Patent Details Meteor Lake's 'Adamantine' L4 Cache | Tom's Hardware [09:15] TR News "The USPTO, however, didn't accept Thaler's paperwork since it could only consider inventions from "natural persons" and not machines." https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/us_supreme_court_patent_ai_inventor/ | Source: The Register UK [09:15] TR Bot Supreme Court won't hear plea to recognize AI as inventors The Register [09:17] TR News "An appeals court on Monday mostly sided with Apple over its App Store rules in a suit with Epic Games." https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/24/apple-declares-victory-after-decision-reached-in-epic-games-appeal-.html | Source: CNBC [09:17] TR Bot Apple declares victory after decision reached in Epic Games appeal [09:17] TR News "Apple said it may appeal the decision." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/apple-cannot-ban-links-to-outside-app-store-payments-us-appeals-court-says/articleshow/99745915.cms | Source: India Times [09:17] TR Bot apple: Apple cannot ban links to outside App Store payments, US appeals court says - The Economic Times [09:17] TR News ellsberg https://www.projectcensored.org/celebrating-daniel-ellsberg-week-a-special-episode-of-the-project-censored-show-with-kevin-gosztola-and-daniel-ellsberg/ | Source: Project Censored [09:17] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/celebrating-daniel-ellsberg-week-a-special-episode-of-the-project-censored-show-with-kevin-gosztola-and-daniel-ellsberg/ ) [09:19] TR News "Hardware Security Modules (HSMs) have not substantially evolved in the last two decades." https://unmitigatedrisk.com/?p=733 | Source: Unmitigated Risk [09:19] TR Bot The Evolution and Limitations of Hardware Security Modules | UNMITIGATED RISK [09:19] TR News "Bowser was sentenced in February 2022 to 40 months in prison for his part as a member of a hacking group called Team-Xecuter" https://www.databreaches.net/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/ | Source: Data Breaches [09:19] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/ ) [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [09:20] TR News "In order to pay off Nintendo fully under this agreement" https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-hacker-gary-bowser-released-from-jail-will-pay-nintendo-25-30-income-for-the-rest-of-his-life/ | Source: 1981 Media Ltd [09:20] TR Bot Switch hacker Gary Bowser released from jail, will pay Nintendo 25-30% income for the rest of his life | VGC [09:20] TR News "Netflix is delighted to confirm that we will invest USD 2.5 billion in Korea including the creation of Korean series, films, and unscripted shows over the next four years" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/netflix-to-invest-2-5-billion-in-south-korean-content/articleshow/99746427.cms | Source: India Times [09:20] TR Bot netflix: Netflix to invest $2.5 billion in South Korean content - The Economic Times [09:25] TR News "These towers will provide connectivity to 336 villages, mostly in border areas." https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/northeast/2023/apr/23/boosting-connectivity-in-border-villages-254-4g-mobile-network-towers-launched-in-arunachal-2568607.html | Source: New Indian Express [09:25] TR Bot Boosting connectivity in border villages: 254 4G mobile network towers launched in Arunachal- The New Indian Express [09:25] TR News "The Philippines is an archipelago comprising three major island groups" https://blog.apnic.net/2023/04/25/the-philippines-internet-landscape/ | Source: APNIC [09:25] TR Bot The Philippines Internet landscape | APNIC Blog [09:26] TR News "On 4-5 April, the South East Europe (SEE) Internet community gathered in the coastal town of Split" https://labs.ripe.net/author/anastasiya-pak/all-we-saw-at-see-11/ | Source: RIPE [09:26] TR Bot All We Saw at SEE 11 | RIPE Labs [09:27] TR News "Amazon drivers and dispatchers in California have joined the International Brotherhood of Teamsters" https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5ygaw/a-group-of-amazon-drivers-just-joined-one-of-the-biggest-unions-in-the-us | Source: Vice Media Group [09:27] TR Bot A Group of Amazon Drivers Just Joined One of the Biggest Unions in the US [09:27] TR News "The European Council on April 24 said it was placing sanctions on eight individuals" https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-west-tightens-sanctions/32377386.html | Source: RFERL [09:27] TR Bot U.S., EU, Britain Tighten Sanctions On Iran For Rights Abuses, With Focus On IRGC [09:29] TR News "In his memo announcing the closure of BuzzFeeds news operations, CEO Jonah Peretti acknowledged a grave mistake" https://www.wired.com/story/buzzfeed-news-facebook-future/ | Source: Wired [09:29] TR Bot Made BuzzFeed, Then Killed It | WIRED [09:29] TR News "On April 20, authorities in Tehran arrested Samimi, the editor-in-chief of the state-run Iran-e Farda magazine, and took him to an undisclosed location, according to news reports." https://cpj.org/2023/04/journalist-kayvan-samimi-rearrested-in-iran-held-in-undisclosed-location/ | Source: CPJ [09:29] TR Bot Journalist Kayvan Samimi rearrested in Iran, held in undisclosed location - Committee to Protect Journalists [09:29] TR News "On March 23, 2023, Dongs family was notified that he would face trial for espionage" https://cpj.org/2023/04/chinese-journalist-dong-yuyu-held-since-february-2022-facing-espionage-charges/ | Source: CPJ [09:29] TR Bot Chinese journalist Dong Yuyu held since February 2022, facing espionage charges - Committee to Protect Journalists [09:33] TR News "Matt Hicks, CEO of IBM-owned Red Hat, said the Linux distro maker plans to lay off just under four percent" https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/ibm_red_hat_layoffs/ | Source: The Register UK [09:33] TR Bot IBM announces small layoff at Red Hat The Register [09:33] TR News "The two cases right now may not have the same spotlight appeal" https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/24/supreme-court-hear-cases-involving-disputes-public-officials-blocking-people-social-media/ | Source: Silicon Angle [09:33] TR Bot Court to hear cases involving disputes over public officials blocking people on social media - SiliconANGLE [09:33] TR News "the content of these bills varies drastically from state to state." https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/04/24/1071992/child-safety-privacy-bills-us-tech-policy/ | Source: MIT Technology Review [09:33] TR Bot Why child safety bills are popping up all over the US | MIT Technology Review [09:34] TR News "Musk has always been at the loggerheads with traditional media." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/twitter-a-serious-danger-for-traditional-media-to-control-the-narrative-elon-musk/articleshow/99724771.cms | Source: India Times [09:34] TR Bot twitter news: Twitter a serious danger for traditional media's ability to control narrative: Elon Musk - The Economic Times [09:34] TR News "In an interaction with IANS during his India visit last week" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/coding-is-the-only-global-language-i-wish-more-indian-kids-learn-it-tim-cook/articleshow/99721470.cms | Source: India Times [09:34] TR Bot Tim Cook: Coding is the only global language, I wish more Indian kids learn it: Apple CEO Tim Cook - The Economic Times [09:37] TR News "Formed only in 2021, Stellantis is a merger of two legacy carmakers" https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/stellantis-e-fuels-decarbonize-combustion-engines | Source: Interesting Engineering [09:37] TR Bot EU-based automaker is testing 'low carbon fuels' for existing cars [09:37] TR News "Having an Eaton Ellipse ECO UPS, I use the NUT project to manage it under OpenBSD." https://doc.huc.fr.eu.org/en/sys/openbsd/nut/ | Source: Stphane Huc [09:37] TR Bot Stphane HUC :: IT Log :: OpenBSD: Managing an inverter/converter with NUT [09:37] TR News "creating more sustainable urban mobility" https://interestingengineering.com/transportation/stockholm-launches-worlds-first-autonomous-fully-electric-passenger-ferry | Source: Interesting Engineering [09:37] TR Bot Stockholm launches worlds first autonomous, fully-electric passenger ferry [09:37] TR News "Stockholm launches the world's first self-driving commercial passenger ferry" https://news.cision.com/zeam/r/premiere-of-the-world-s-first-self-driving-ferry,c3756788 | [09:37] TR Bot Premiere of the world's first self-driving ferry - Zeam [09:42] TR News "Experts pointed out that the international norms for age of consent is 16 and are arguing that a significant part of the population will have to go through many hoops to get Internet access." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/data-bill-agegating-worries-edtech-gaming-social-media-firms/articleshow/99740502.cms | Source: India Times [09:42] TR Bot data bill agegating: Data Bill age-gating worries edtech, gaming, social media firms - The Economic Times [09:42] TR News "In an open letter, seven secure messaging appsincluding Signal and WhatsApppoint out that the UKs Online Safety Bill could destroy end-to-end encryption: [...]" https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2023/04/uk-threatens-end-to-end-encryption.html | Source: Bruce Schneier [09:42] TR Bot Threatens End-to-End Encryption - Schneier on Security [09:42] TR News "Metas WhatsApp is threatening to leave the UK if the government passes the Online Safety Bill, saying it will essentially eliminate its encryption methods." https://gizmodo.com/whatsapp-signal-uk-online-safety-bill-encryption-censor-1850347516 | Source: Gizmodo [09:42] TR Bot WhatsApp, Signal Threaten to Leave UK Over 'Online Safety Bill' [09:42] TR News [Old] "WhatsApps warning follows similar threats from another encrypted messaging app" https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/10/23633601/uk-online-safety-bill-encryption-whatsapp-leave | Source: The Verge [09:42] TR Bot WhatsApp says it will leave the UK rather than weaken encryption under Online Safety Bill - The Verge ● Apr 25 [10:04] *GNUmoon2 has quit (*.net *.split) [10:11] TR News Links 24/04/2023: A Focus on Red Hat and Fedora | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/red-hat-and-fedora/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/red-hat-and-fedora/ [10:11] TR Bot Links 24/04/2023: A Focus on Red Hat and Fedora | Techrights [10:12] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:12] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@wyxe7rh3zwtvg.irc) has joined #techrights [10:13] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [10:14] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@jm2zu333qz2k6.irc) has joined #techrights [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [10:32] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:38] TR News Proprietary crap from Microsoft spoils the broth https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2023/04/24/deleting-system32curl-exe/ | Source: Daniel Stenberg [10:38] TR Bot system32\curl.exe | daniel.haxx.se [10:39] TR News "The outage is only the latest to hit Microsoft this year and comes just days after a problem causing high CPU utilization rates in some of its infrastructure" https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/microsoft_365_search_outage/ | Source: The Register UK [10:39] TR Bot Users complain as Microsoft 365 hit by yet another outage The Register [10:39] TR News "Is the addiction caused and fueled by social networks a new drug?" https://www.ekathimerini.com/opinion/interviews/1209227/expert-warns-of-mental-toll-of-social-media/ | Source: Greece [10:39] TR Bot warns of mental toll of social media | eKathimerini.com [10:40] TR News "Health Behavior in School-aged Children (HBSC)" https://www.ekathimerini.com/culture/1209298/teens-still-reading-books-in-age-of-social-media/ | Source: Greece [10:40] TR Bot still reading books in age of social media | eKathimerini.com [10:48] TR News Simplest-possible examples, pointy regions, and nearly-orthogonal vector https://blog.plover.com/2023/04/20/#2023-04 | Source: Mark Dominus [10:48] TR Bot The Universe of Discourse : Math SE report 2023-04: Simplest-possible examples, pointy regions, and nearly-orthogonal vectors [10:49] TR News "Drones as heavy as 300 pounds have found a home in New York." https://www.thedronegirl.com/2023/04/20/300-pounds-drones-new-york-nuair/ | [10:49] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.thedronegirl.com/2023/04/20/300-pounds-drones-new-york-nuair/ ) [10:49] TR News "In mild cases, the difference between the stereo and mono versions of a song or album can be summarised by the different mixing techniques" https://www.yoursoundmatters.com/significantly-different-mono-stereo-mixes-on-records/ | [10:49] TR Bot Significantly Different Mono/Stereo Mixes on Records - Sound Matters [10:50] TR News "Discover the world of indie music, its rich history, and its diverse sub-genres" https://www.provos.org/p/what-is-indie-music/ | Source: Niels Provos [10:50] TR Bot What is Indie Music? Activ8te's Comprehensive Guide for New Listeners and Musicians [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [11:09] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [11:10] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@4f5d7akf8z5fy.irc) has joined #techrights [11:10] *GNUmoon2 has quit (connection closed) [11:15] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@4f5d7akf8z5fy.irc) has joined #techrights [11:15] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [11:16] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@4f5d7akf8z5fy.irc) has joined #techrights [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:21] *immibis is now known as SolidGoldMagikarp [11:32] TR News The Sirius Open Source Fantasy Part III Staff Input (From Technical Workers) Not Accepted | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/input-unwelcomed/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/input-unwelcomed/ [11:32] TR Bot The Sirius Open Source Fantasy Part III Staff Input (From Technical Workers) Not Accepted | Techrights [11:34] SolidGoldMagikarp i see psydruid still has immibis derangement syndrome [11:35] psydruid lol [11:35] martylake This chan has so many articles per day. How do you keep up ? [11:35] SolidGoldMagikarp now you get to complain about pokemon names [11:35] SolidGoldMagikarp martylake: don't [11:35] psydruid long time no see, immibis [11:35] martylake SolidGoldMagikarp: I am interested by people conversing, and that happens on another timezone it seems. [11:36] martylake (gm everyone) [11:36] psydruid how is professional Minecraft modding going? [11:36] psydruid immibis is the one who impersonates members of this channel [11:37] schestowitz martylake: groupwork [11:37] psydruid that looks like a far worse impersonation syndrome [11:37] martylake schestowitz: What is groupwork? [11:37] schestowitz it's not just one person [11:37] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi [11:37] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [11:37] schestowitz ^^ my wife [11:37] psydruid I suppose it's gulagboy, immibitch and friends [11:38] schestowitz Andropid new curation [11:40] SolidGoldMagikarp martylake: as you can see people here are a little toxic [11:41] psydruid wie de schoen past, trekke hem aan [11:44] SolidGoldMagikarp I wonder how long it will take them to forget who this nick is [11:44] psydruid "him" not "them" [11:45] SolidGoldMagikarp I wasn't aware everyone here was one person, though I suppose it makes sense [11:46] psydruid it does indeed [11:47] psydruid anyway, I'm waiting for the next article about Microsoft and IBM layoffs [11:47] TR News Part 4 will be out this week or coming weekend. Might be the latest of this series on Sirius 'Open Source'. http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source#The_Post_Mortem [11:47] TR Bot Sirius Open Source - Techrights [11:48] TR News This other ongoing series may go on for 1-2 months longer. Until prosecution. http://techrights.org/wiki/Crimes_of_Sirius_Open_Source#Police_Gets_Involved [11:48] TR Bot Crimes of Sirius Open Source - Techrights [11:49] SolidGoldMagikarp psydruid must work at microsoft and IBM and got laid off, that's how they have time to be delusional about me [11:50] psydruid ^ clown [11:50] SolidGoldMagikarp says the deranged one [11:51] psydruid says one of immibis's twisted personalities [11:51] *SolidGoldMagikarp is now known as TwistedPersonality [11:51] psydruid but keep going, it's becoming clear how much of a clown you are [11:53] TwistedPersonality What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the IRCeals, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on libera, and I have over 300 confirmed sockpuppets. I am trained in gorilla warezfare and Im the top shitposter in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will troll you the fuck out with precision the likes of which [11:53] TwistedPersonality has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. [11:53] psydruid http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/microsofts-quarterly-results-for-this-week-expected-to-disappoint-more-layoffs-this-week-or-in-summer-july/ [11:53] TR Bot Microsofts Quarterly Results for This Week Expected to Disappoint, More Layoffs This Week or in Summer (July) | Techrights ● Apr 25 [12:03] schestowitz is bndtroll still a thing [12:03] schestowitz call BND [12:03] schestowitz get back your little baby [12:04] schestowitz Finalising a blog posy [12:04] schestowitz post [12:04] schestowitz "All Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction" [12:04] schestowitz it has a video, too [12:04] psydruid yes [12:04] schestowitz "hail hitler" [12:05] psydruid a truly pathetic excuse for a human being [12:06] schestowitz " Microsoft is losing it; as a result, the media is being co-opted and trolling by Microsoft enablers appears to have gotten worse than usual (broderline illegal)" [12:06] schestowitz waiting for video processing to finish.. [12:08] psydruid the job isn't done until Microsoft and IBM are gone [12:08] schestowitz not just them [12:08] schestowitz but I'd start with MSFT [12:08] psydruid that's only the first job [12:09] schestowitz creepy bill bribed my employer [12:09] schestowitz at the time [12:09] schestowitz and signed NDA [12:09] schestowitz many things made no sense after that [12:09] psydruid I want IBM gone too [12:09] schestowitz ICBM is still bigger [12:09] schestowitz iirc [12:09] schestowitz unless you count "channel" [12:09] schestowitz MSVs etc. [12:09] psydruid in headcount perhaps [12:09] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM?wprov=srpw1_0 [12:09] TR Bot IBM - Wikipedia [12:10] schestowitz Number of employees288,300 [12:10] schestowitz direct [12:10] schestowitz microsoft has [12:10] schestowitz temps [12:10] schestowitz contractors [12:10] schestowitz channel partners [12:10] schestowitz and moles [12:10] schestowitz inc. "ex" MSFT [12:10] schestowitz gov. offcials [12:10] schestowitz or peopel like Chris Krebs [12:10] schestowitz talking about politics [12:10] schestowitz pushing MSFT [12:10] schestowitz after working there [12:10] schestowitz having said hat, [12:10] schestowitz microsoft [12:10] schestowitz has the same [12:10] schestowitz as ICBM [12:10] schestowitz examples [12:11] schestowitz AMD CEO [12:11] schestowitz iirc, she used to be ICBM [12:11] schestowitz same with Novell [12:11] schestowitz Hovsepian came from ICBM [12:11] schestowitz several other execs at Novell had come from there [12:11] schestowitz ICBM employed millions over the years [12:11] schestowitz people still in the workforce [12:11] schestowitz like, ICBM 1980-1990, then some other company [12:12] schestowitz millions of people like these all around the world [12:12] schestowitz IICBM used to employ about half a million directly [12:12] schestowitz HP/HPE also massive [12:12] schestowitz i was surprised whe I checked [12:12] psydruid massive printer performance [12:12] psydruid with compliments from Belluzzo [12:12] psydruid and Fiorina [12:13] schestowitz HPE is now 60,200 (2022) [12:13] schestowitz HP was MASSIVE [12:13] psydruid HP was once innovative [12:13] schestowitz 1980s [12:13] schestowitz "Sales reached $6.5 billion in 1985 with 85,000 employee" [12:13] psydruid when Hewlett and Packard were still around [12:13] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hewlett-Packard [12:13] TR Bot Hewlett-Packard - Wikipedia [12:13] schestowitz "At the end of 2013 the company had 317,500 employees" [12:14] schestowitz 317k! [12:14] schestowitz many ex-HP [12:14] schestowitz I worked with some [12:14] schestowitz as clients and colleagues [12:14] schestowitz lots of people still pre-pension age [12:14] schestowitz mmmany worked there [12:14] schestowitz even directly [12:15] schestowitz now we have samsung [12:15] schestowitz in korea many work for samsung, hyundai, and lg [12:15] schestowitz even military [12:16] schestowitz psydruid: notice the trolls went quiet [12:16] schestowitz working on ""All Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction (Layoffs and Deflection Aplenty) [12:16] schestowitz " [12:16] psydruid the trolls are going out of their minds trying to stem the tide of bad news flooding this and other channels of communcation [12:17] psydruid I am also going to watch this one [12:17] psydruid http://techrights.org/2023/04/23/v-alex-brennen-kurt-keville-on-freedom-hardware/ [12:17] TR Bot LibrePlanet Talk About ARM and RISC-V | Techrights [12:17] schestowitz yeah [12:17] schestowitz i watched part of that [12:17] schestowitz gonna add another talk now [12:18] schestowitz maybe i will submit a talk for next year [12:18] schestowitz on a technical topic [12:18] psydruid hopefully that will put the final nail in the coffin of the likes of Dell, Asus, Acer, HP/HPE etc. in the longer term [12:18] psydruid x86 is more about tech colonialism than anything else [12:18] psydruid get rid of it, get rid of all of those companies too [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:27] TR News Lori Angela Nagel on Promoting Free/Libre Software Philosophy | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/libre-software-philosophy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/libre-software-philosophy/ [12:27] TR Bot Lori Angela Nagel on Promoting Free/Libre Software Philosophy | Techrights [12:28] schestowitz video ready.. [12:33] TR News All That Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction (Layoffs and Deflection Aplenty) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/microsoft-losing-it/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/microsoft-losing-it/ [12:34] TR Bot All That Microsoft Has Left Now is Distraction and Destruction (Layoffs and Deflection Aplenty) | Techrights [12:37] TR News blog [12:38] TR News "A lot of programming languages allow variable shadowing in new scopes." https://ntietz.com/blog/rust-shadowing-idiomatic/ | Source: Nicholas Tietz-Sokolsky [12:38] TR Bot Rust allows redeclaring local variables to great benefit | nicholas@web [12:38] TR News "This isn't just an aspect of general Unix development after all sorts of people got their hands on it (and created things like Perl)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/UnixAndAutomaticMemoryManagement | Source: University of Toronto [12:38] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/unix/UnixAndAutomaticMemoryManagement [12:38] TR News
  • [12:39] TR News "In a previous installment of this series, I wrote about adding a project-specific .pryrc to Ruby/Rails projects." https://citizen428.net/blog/rails-quick-tips-7-project-specific-irbrc/ | Source: Michael Kohl [12:39] TR Bot quick tips #7: Project-specific .irbrc - citizen428.net [12:39] TR News "With a lot of my time on the command line being spent using git..." https://www.olafalders.com/2023/04/23/autocorrecting-my-git-commands/ | Source: Olaf Alders [12:39] TR Bot my Git Commands - olafalders.com [12:39] TR News [Old] "In this article, I would like to find out the concrete performance penalty of false sharing for my data structure." https://alic.dev/blog/false-sharing.html | [12:39] TR Bot Measuring the Impact of False Sharing [12:40] TR News "At the closing ceremony, the con chair asked the GoHs there was anything that went wrong." https://mwl.io/archives/22740 | Source: MWL [12:40] TR Bot Ten Years of Penguicon Pop Tarts Michael W Lucas [12:41] TR News "Here is a fun little view on the progress of PostgreSQL." http://peter.eisentraut.org/blog/2023/04/25/create-commands-in-postgresql-releases | Source: Peter Eisentraut [12:41] TR Bot CREATE commands in PostgreSQL releases | Peter Eisentraut [12:41] TR News Singapore tells its people: Go forth and block those ads https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/25/singapore_gov_ads/ | Source: The Register UK [12:41] TR Bot Singapore govt pushes use of ad blockers The Register [12:43] TR News "Audacity 3.3 comes seven months after the Audacity 3.2 series and introduces a new Shelf Filter effect that can be set for High-shelf or Low-shelf" https://9to5linux.com/audacity-3-3-audio-editor-adds-new-shelf-filter-effect-experimental-beats-and-bars | Source: 9to5Linux [12:43] TR Bot 3.3 Audio Editor Adds New Shelf Filter Effect, Experimental Beats and Bars - 9to5Linux [12:43] TR News "Audacity 3.3.0 makes more of its built-in effects realtime" https://www.omglinux.com/audacity-3-3-released/ | Source: OMG! 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Linux [12:44] TR News "don't we already have a rigid, stable, movable" https://www.markhansen.co.nz/pramera/ | Source: Mark Hansen [12:44] TR Bot Pram/Stroller Camera Mount [12:45] TR News "Whenever a new Camera Module, or updated software for existing camera hardware comes out" https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/cinepi-a-high-end-film-camera-built-on-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [12:45] TR Bot CinePI: a high-end film camera built on Raspberry Pi - Raspberry Pi [12:47] TR News "To test this idea, Burton 3D-printed almost the entirety of the vehicle." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/04/24/bendy-tank-steers-by-flexing/ | Source: Arduino [12:47] TR Bot Bendy robotic tank steers by flexing | Arduino Blog [12:47] TR News "Weve covered sending sensor data over Wi-Fi before" https://www.sparkfun.com/news/6675 | Source: SparkFun Electronics [12:47] TR Bot Sensor Data Over Bluetooth - News - SparkFun Electronics [12:47] TR News "At the end of my keyboard PC blog post I mentioned that I really wanted a Schneider Euro PC." https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2023/04/24/schneider-euro-pc-restoration-part-1/ | Source: Andrew Hutchings [12:47] TR Bot Schneider Euro PC: Restoration Part 1 LinuxJedi's /dev/null [12:48] TR News "If this seems like a tough job, it is." https://staceyoniot.com/what-to-expect-with-6g-and-the-industrial-iot/ | Source: Stacey on IoT [12:48] TR Bot What to expect with 6G and the industrial IoT - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis [12:49] TR News "I expect this article will be of broader interest than just to Haikus community" https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2023-04-24_condition_variables/ | Source: HaikuOS [12:49] TR Bot Haiku's (Kernel) Condition Variables API: Design & Implementation | Haiku Project [12:50] TR News "it allows me to work faster when Im not home and with a poor internet connection" https://carlosbecker.com/posts/pbcopy-pbpaste-open-ssh/ | Source: Carlos Becker [12:50] TR Bot Sharing open, pbcopy and pbpaste over SSH [12:50] TR News "Metawork is so much more fun than real work. Sharpening your pencils." https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2023/04/using-pandoc-to-format-a-dissertation-from-markdown-to-html-pdf-and-epub/ | Source: Terence Eden [12:50] TR Bot Using Pandoc to format a Dissertation from Markdown to HTML, PDF, and ePub Terence Edens Blog [12:53] TR News "Based on the recently released Linux 6.3 kernel" https://9to5linux.com/gnu-linux-libre-6-3-kernel-is-out-for-those-seeking-100-freedom-for-their-pcs | Source: 9to5Linux [12:53] TR Bot Linux-Libre 6.3 Kernel Is Out for Those Seeking 100% Freedom for Their PCs - 9to5Linux [12:53] TR News "At its core, a semaphore is an integer counter used to control access to a resource." https://lwn.net/Articles/928026/ | Source: LWN [12:53] TR Bot shrinking role of semaphores [LWN.net] [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [13:01] TR News "This article describes target-specific details about AArch32 in ELF linkers." https://maskray.me/blog/2023-04-23-linker-notes-on-aarch32 | Source: MaskRay [13:01] TR Bot Linker notes on AArch32 | MaskRay [13:01] TR News "ptrace (process trace) is a system call in Unix and Unix-like operating systems" https://matt-rickard.com/the-ptrace-syscall | Source: Matt Rickard [13:01] TR Bot The ptrace syscall [13:02] TR News "Tanenbaum-Torvalds debates" https://matt-rickard.com/tanenbaum-torvalds-debates-part-1 | Source: Matt Rickard [13:02] TR Bot TanenbaumTorvalds Debates, Part 1 [13:02] TR News QEMU uses Microsoft hosting. Boo. https://www.theregister.com/2023/04/24/qemu_8/ | Source: The Register UK [13:02] TR Bot QEMU 8.0 hatches more support for Arm and RISC-V The Register [13:03] TR News billionaires as a failure https://neritam.wordpress.com/2023/04/24/every-billionaire-is-a-policy-failure/ [13:03] TR Bot Every Billionaire Is a Policy Failure neritam [13:04] TR News Oligarchy enforcing link rot: "Red Alert: ICANN and Verisign Proposal Would Allow Any Government in the World to Seize Domain Names" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/04/23/143222#1302793 [13:04] TR Bot Red Alert: ICANN and Verisign Proposal Would Allow Any Government in the World to Seize Domain Names - SoylentNews [13:04] TR News EU chat control https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://femtejuli.se/2023/04/24/chat-control-ministerradet-vill-lagra-metadata-och-blockera-sokresultat/ [13:04] TR Bot Chat Control: Ministerrdet vill lagra metadata och blockera skresultat [13:05] TR News "TikTok users are demanding that their favorite musicians release sped-up songs" https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/viral/tiktok-sped-up-fast-songs-sounds-rcna79256 iophk: cultural genocide; the algorithm steers the sheeple, who then turn on and destroy their own culture [13:05] TR Bot TikTok users are demanding that artists release sped-up songs [13:07] TR News "C language is usually considered the base for many other programming languages" https://www.tecmint.com/best-ide-editor-linux/ | Source: TecMint [13:07] TR Bot 27 Best IDEs or Source Code Editors for Linux [13:07] TR News "Node Version Manager (NVM in short) is a simple bash script to manage multiple active node.js versions" https://www.tecmint.com/nvm-install-multiple-nodejs-versions-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint [13:07] TR Bot NVM - Install and Manage Multiple Node.js Versions in Linux [13:07] TR News "Recently OpenSSH 9.3 was released and ships with many new features and bug fixes" https://www.tecmint.com/install-openssh-server-from-source-in-linux/ | Source: TecMint [13:07] TR Bot How to Install OpenSSH Server from Source in Linux [13:08] TR News How to Configure DHCP Server on RHEL 9 / Rocky Linux 9 https://www.linuxtechi.com/configure-dhcp-server-on-rhel-rockylinux/ | Source: LinuxTechi [13:08] TR Bot How to Configure DHCP Server on RHEL 9 / Rocky Linux 9 [13:08] TR News C vs. Go https://opensource.com/article/23/4/c-vs-go-programming-languages | Source: OpenSource.com [13:08] TR Bot vs. Go: Comparing programming languages | Opensource.com [13:09] TR News Message to Red Hat associates today https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/message-red-hat-associates-today | Source: Red Hat Official [13:09] TR Bot Message to Red Hat associates today [13:12] TR News "As a system administrator, you might need to check all the processes that are consuming your computer's resources." https://linuxhandbook.com/check-running-process/ | Source: Linux Handbook [13:12] TR Bot Check All Running Process in Linux [13:14] TR News "Linus Torvalds announced the full release of Linux kernel 6.3, and with it plenty of the usual improvements everywhere." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/linux-kernel-6-3-out-now-some-quick-highlights/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:14] TR Bot kernel 6.3 is out now here's some quick highlights | GamingOnLinux [13:16] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.gmi [13:16] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [13:16] TR News "patches to improve HDR and Colour Management on Linux" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/hdr-and-colour-management-patches-for-steam-deck-amd-gpus-under-review/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:16] TR Bot and Colour Management patches for Steam Deck + AMD GPUs under review | GamingOnLinux [13:17] TR News "Fanatical and accessory brand JSAUX have teamed up for a bundle of games" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/fanatical-team-up-with-jsaux-again-and-you-can-win-a-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:17] TR Bot team up with JSAUX again and you can win a Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux [13:17] TR News "Ellpeck Games have announced their pixel-art game inspired by The Sims" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/pixel-art-sims-styled-game-tiny-life-hits-early-access-on-may-3rd/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:17] TR Bot Sims styled game Tiny Life hits Early Access on May 3rd | GamingOnLinux [13:17] TR News "It's a compatibility layer (like Proton) but designed to help you run Native Linux game engines" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/linux-and-steam-deck-compatibility-tool-luxtorpeda-gets-upgraded-in-v63/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:17] TR Bot and Steam Deck compatibility tool Luxtorpeda gets upgraded in v63 | GamingOnLinux [13:18] TR News "Certain games on Steam that you play across either Linux desktop or Steam Deck get a specific version of Proton set by Valve" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/04/valve-moves-elden-ring-back-to-proton-7-as-it-has-issues-with-newer-proton/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [13:18] TR Bot moves ELDEN RING back to Proton 7 as it has issues with newer Proton | GamingOnLinux [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:21] TR News (NEW): Kernel/Linux News and Analysis http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Kernel_Linux_News_and_Analysis.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Kernel_Linux_News_and_Analysis.gmi [13:21] TR Bot Tux Machines Kernel/Linux News and Analysis [13:21] TR News (NEW): Games: HDR and Colour Management, Steam, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Games_HDR_and_Colour_Management_Steam_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Games_HDR_and_Colour_Management_Steam_and_More.gmi [13:21] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: HDR and Colour Management, Steam, and More [13:22] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: CinePI, Arduino, SparkFun, and Retro http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Open_Hardware_Modding_CinePI_Arduino_SparkFun_and_Retro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Open_Hardware_Modding_CinePI_Arduino_SparkFun_and_Retro.gmi [13:22] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware/Modding: CinePI, Arduino, SparkFun, and Retro [13:24] TR News Microsoft. "What do you think will happen? Regarding layoffs, of course." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1mjWkWja#replies [13:24] TR Bot Earnings are today - post regarding Microsoft Corp. layoffs [13:25] TR News "Intuit CEO Sasan Goodarzi said that employment instability at the major tech firms is making it easier to poach star talent even when they still have jobs." https://fudzilla.com/news/ai/56771-big-tech-lay-offs-are-already-costing-them [13:25] TR Bot Big Tech lay-offs are already costing them [13:27] TR News LibrePlanet: Weiming Hu on Free software for Environmental Sciences | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/weiming-hu-at-libreplanet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/weiming-hu-at-libreplanet/ [13:27] TR Bot LibrePlanet: Weiming Hu on Free software for Environmental Sciences | Techrights [13:39] martylake schestowitz: psydruid: its crazy ! I never seen smoke operation *that* targetted before. [13:39] schestowitz hard to prove it [13:39] schestowitz but [13:39] schestowitz it seems to be coordinated [13:40] schestowitz gulagboy and some guy who claims to be german [13:40] schestowitz they weapopnise trans people [13:40] schestowitz they are not trand [13:40] schestowitz gulagboy was in fact anti-trans [13:40] schestowitz by his own admissionm [13:40] schestowitz the goal is just to derail the channel/network [13:40] martylake damned [13:41] psydruid they are trying to portray completely reasonable people as deranged [13:41] martylake I suppose it is not easy to ban this type of actors, isnt it ? [13:41] martylake (new to IRC) [13:41] schestowitz bans won't work [13:41] schestowitz they will claim to eb "victims" [13:41] schestowitz it's a trick/bait [13:41] schestowitz they did this to FSF for years [13:42] martylake ow, thats how it works then! [13:42] schestowitz https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html [13:42] TR Bot Updates | Stallman Support [13:42] schestowitz "April 21, 2023 [13:42] schestowitz Added some posts from RMS's website that provide evidence he is not transphobic. [13:42] schestowitz Updated a paragraph in the home page to say it's no longer possible to sign the support letter. Those who want to show support can send us comments, articles, testimonies, references, for us to publish. [13:42] schestowitz April 20, 2023 [13:42] schestowitz Added a comment of support from a transgender person." [13:42] schestowitz https://stallmansupport.org/comments-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html#polynka [13:42] TR Bot Comments in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support [13:42] schestowitz "And as a transgender person, it disgusts me much that some people try to use us as a weapon against free software, by falsely accusing one of our biggest allies of transphobia, when in fact there is none. [13:42] schestowitz No, Stallman hasnt spent years on a campaign against using peoples correct pronouns, there literally wasnt such campaign. In fact, the cited GNU Kind Communication Guidelines literally advocate respecting peoples gender identity, and trying to twist them into something opposite is disingenuous and done with bad faith." [13:42] psydruid they are just not used to people calling them out for their destructive behaviour [13:43] psydruid so when it happens they shrivel back to their corner planning for the next attack [13:43] psydruid because they are like kids in grown people's bodies [13:44] psydruid grown up* [13:51] schestowitz techrights in past 24 hours: 16 posts [13:51] *schestowitz back to news curation [13:52] TR News "HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI!!!" They actually meant... 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Can the "market" sense it? https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/23/stock-futures-inch-down-as-wall-street-awaits-tech-earnings.html [14:00] TR Bot Stock market today: Live updates [14:00] TR News pwc = connected to corrupt EPO, Microsoft, and Sheela Microsoft (Jim Zemlin's wife, she came from there) https://michaelwest.com.au/pity-about-the-corporate-treason-pwc-is-back-winning-juicy-government-contracts/ | Source: Michael West Media [14:01] TR Bot Pity about the corporate treason; PWC is back winning juicy government contracts - Michael West [14:02] martylake techrights-ipfs-bot LLMs are older than the peron who invented the Internet: really ?! [14:05] TR News Microsoft attacking anything that resembles what it overpaid for, even Free software clones https://torrentfreak.com/mojang-continues-crackdown-on-minecraft-pirates-230224/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:05] TR Bot Continues Crackdown on Minecraft 'Pirates' * TorrentFreak [14:05] schestowitz martylake: let's see year.. [14:06] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_language_model [14:06] TR Bot Large language model - Wikipedia [14:06] schestowitz PR-maniupulated [14:06] schestowitz let's check a proper page [14:06] schestowitz not corporate propaganda... [14:06] schestowitz need to see history [14:07] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCIgen [14:07] TR Bot SCIgen - Wikipedia [14:07] schestowitz perl [14:07] schestowitz 2005 [14:07] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context-free_grammar [14:07] TR Bot Context-free grammar - Wikipedia [14:07] schestowitz chomsky worked on such things [14:07] schestowitz "The formalism of context-free grammars was developed in the mid-1950s by Noam Chomsky" [14:07] schestowitz 1950s [14:07] schestowitz chomsky is about 95 now [14:08] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky [14:08] TR Bot Noam Chomsky - Wikipedia [14:08] schestowitz 94 [14:08] martylake schestowitz: 9 March 2023 creation of the wikipedia page about LLM [14:08] schestowitz so initial work by man born 1928 [14:08] schestowitz martylake: probably by mirosoft [14:08] schestowitz trhey edit wikipedia [14:08] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Waggener_Edstrom [14:08] TR Bot Waggener Edstrom - Techrights [14:09] martylake schestowitz: you mean, outside of the normal edit-publish cycle whitin wikipedia editor? [14:10] schestowitz it's widely manipulated [14:10] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/10/07/nat-friedman-wikipedia-spam/ [14:10] TR Bot Nat Friedman Seems to Be Employing a PR Agency to Turn a Wikipedia Page About Him Into Hagiography and Hide His Strong Links to the Serial Strangler Alex Graveley | Techrights [14:10] schestowitz many more in http://techrights.org/category/wikipedia/ [14:10] TR Bot Wikipedia | Techrights [14:10] schestowitz i've lessened how much i link to wikipedia [14:10] schestowitz it was taken over by governments and companies [14:10] schestowitz inc. PR firms of companies [14:10] schestowitz let them destroy it [14:11] schestowitz till people realise what happened [14:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/08/30/lf-year-of-formation/ [14:11] TR Bot Wikipedia Helps Linux Foundation Spread Lies, Revisionism | Techrights [14:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/06/18/wikipedia-weakened-by-pr-industry/ [14:11] TR Bot Wikipedia is No Longer Trustworthy on Matters of Commerce and Politics (Because of Financial Motives and Power Incentives) | Techrights [14:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/06/01/wikipedia-osi/ [14:11] TR Bot The Libel Initiative: OSI President Falsely Insinuates OSI Critics Are Homophobic and Requests Censorship of Wikipedia (for OSI) | Techrights [14:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/25/cancelled-in-wikipedia/ [14:11] TR Bot If Wikipedia is Controlled by Corporations and Mobs, It Needs to Be Cancelled | Techrights [14:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2014/03/17/wikipedia-and-microsoft/ [14:11] TR Bot Wikipedia Got Ruined by the Likes of Microsoft Who Pay People to Edit Articles About Microsoft | Techrights [14:12] TR News iptv https://torrentfreak.com/leaked-ec-plan-to-combat-iptv-piracy-disappoints-rightsholders-230424/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:12] TR Bot EC Plan to Combat IPTV Piracy Disappoints Rightsholders * TorrentFreak [14:12] schestowitz wikipedia became "too" big [14:12] schestowitz hence it was targeted [14:12] schestowitz and it did not cope with the attack [14:12] schestowitz it let it happen, eventually [14:13] TR News Alex Salmond https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2023/04/defence-fund-appeal-united-nations-human-rights-committee/ | Source: Craig Murray [14:13] TR Bot Defence Fund Appeal - United Nations Human Rights Committee - Craig Murray [14:18] TR News "Moscows Bolshoi Theater dropped Kirill Serebrennikovs Nureyev, a ballet production" https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/24/nureyev-will-live-on-in-freedom | Source: Meduza [14:18] TR Bot Nureyev will live on, in freedom Stage director Kirill Serebrennikov on the Bolshoi-banished ballet and why Rudolf Nureyevs story matters today Meduza [14:19] TR News Semiel Vedel https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/former-law-enforcement-officer-sentenced-to-7-years-in-penal-colony-for-private-phone-conversations-they-were-qualified-as-public-disinformation-because-his-phone-line-was-tapped | Source: Meduza [14:19] TR Bot Former law enforcement officer sentenced to seven years in penal colony for private phone conversations, qualified as public since phone line was tapped Meduza [14:20] TR News "Cassette players and tapes are fertile hacking ground." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/messing-with-a-cassette-player-never-sounded-so-good/ | Source: Hackaday [14:20] TR Bot With A Cassette Player Never Sounded So Good | Hackaday [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:20] TR News "Thanks to 3D printing and inexpensive controllers" https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/60-robot-arm-is-compact/ | Source: Hackaday [14:20] TR Bot Robot Arm Is Compact | Hackaday [14:25] martylake schestowitz: I have troubles reading the articles, as they are all written as diffs, and require more context to grasp and reconstruct the meaning. [14:25] schestowitz he images? [14:25] schestowitz *the images [14:25] martylake re wikipedia defacing: of course it is used for PR stunts. [14:25] schestowitz it's hard to show what they do [14:25] schestowitz as showing the actual diffs would be long [14:26] schestowitz but they are removing bad press [14:26] schestowitz and adding puff [14:26] martylake yes. [14:26] schestowitz and they are connected to the topic of the artticle [14:26] schestowitz so they are there for PR [14:26] schestowitz wikipedia is their "platform" [14:26] martylake it is hard to track all these "isolated" and "coincidental" actions. [14:26] martylake and reconstruct proper intent from. [14:26] TR News (NEW): Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Interview_about_Linux_libre_to_nixsanctuary_com.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Interview_about_Linux_libre_to_nixsanctuary_com.gmi [14:26] TR Bot Tux Machines Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com [14:27] schestowitz martylake: wikipedia has an editorial control problem [14:27] schestowitz in many topics/strands [14:27] schestowitz and it got worse [14:27] schestowitz in recent years [14:27] schestowitz criminals are "controversial" [14:27] schestowitz controversials are good people [14:27] schestowitz good people are deleted [14:27] martylake re LLM, I am not well versed into AI, but I though LLM were different than previous technologies. I fail to understand how Context-free grammar is equivalent to LLM in that regard. [14:28] schestowitz llms are trained on text [14:28] martylake yes [14:28] schestowitz and predict likely next x words [14:28] martylake yes [14:28] schestowitz with some grammatical rules [14:28] martylake (they call words "token" for some reason) [14:28] schestowitz they are just statistical lipsticks on the previous generation [14:29] martylake sure [14:29] schestowitz in LLMs, words are token too [14:29] schestowitz they are just some object [14:29] martylake all the "intelligence" is just emergent behavior, usefull ones though. [14:29] schestowitz there is no real understanding [14:29] martylake indeed. [14:29] schestowitz only simulation thereof [14:30] schestowitz it wasn't done much before as: [14:30] schestowitz 1) it's expensive [14:30] schestowitz 2) no business model (See (1)) [14:30] schestowitz 3) it's useless [14:30] martylake still, a gap was bridged in usability of these tools. I can confess that it saved me a lot of time by not having to help a friend get started into learning python. [14:30] schestowitz 4) it would not be accurate, see (3) [14:30] schestowitz the media bribed by microsofty makes faux "sue cases" for it [14:31] schestowitz llke "passing exam" [14:31] martylake yep. all PR stunt for sure. [14:31] schestowitz yeah [14:31] schestowitz expensive PR stunt [14:31] schestowitz plus, [14:31] schestowitz expensive training [14:31] schestowitz GPT-3 [14:31] schestowitz than 4 [14:31] schestowitz or "3.5" [14:31] schestowitz no such thing [14:31] schestowitz lots of vapourware [14:31] schestowitz now they need more vapour, so some say "5" [14:32] martylake _yet_, my friend was able to write its python script to scrap some webpage in a few hours of back and forth with the tool. as a real newbie in python scripting, it would have been more lengthy to just type search engine queries for sure! [14:32] martylake /s/the tool/GPT-4/ [14:33] TR News Netherlands and UK expand energy collaboration https://www.h2-view.com/story/netherlands-and-uk-expand-energy-collaboration/ [14:33] TR Bot Netherlands and UK expand energy collaboration [14:34] schestowitz martylake: go to google.com [14:34] martylake I agree that there is tons of PR stunt, and lots of fear-mongering (AGI lol). still, these tools seem to provide an interface that "ticks" for some human because natural language, isnt it? [14:34] schestowitz or searx.be [14:34] schestowitz search for [14:34] schestowitz examples python scraping [14:34] schestowitz and some might be complete examples [14:34] schestowitz and they are tested and work [14:34] schestowitz not some spewed junk from a bag of "tokens" [14:36] martylake I understand your harsh cricitism of early versions of this category of tools, but Ican attest that my friend was complete noob, and got its task done. It doesnt matter that internet already had all of the answers, in pieces, somewhere. Here, the answers were retrieved at the right moment, tuned for the problem at hand, hence, useful bag of "tokens". [14:37] martylake once you know your way in python programming, you can already get things done by doing googl or searx searches, for sure! [14:37] schestowitz sounds like the friend needed code [14:37] schestowitz not words [14:37] schestowitz so it was not the chaffbot [14:37] schestowitz but maybe a GPL violation [14:38] schestowitz some code harvesting like shithub co-pilot [14:38] martylake probably. [14:38] schestowitz without any attribution or markings [14:38] schestowitz so many it was code ripped off [14:38] schestowitz and there is a class action lawsuit over it right now [14:38] schestowitz hence, possibly risky [14:38] martylake scrapping the whole internet is not an operation that embarasses itself with copyrights. [14:38] schestowitz the friend does not know where the code came from [14:39] schestowitz once you know your way in python programming, you can already get things done by doing googl or searx searches, for sure! [14:39] schestowitz if you don't know how to run .py files, thewn you are doomed also [14:39] martylake no, and the friend cannot care less! the code will be used and thrown away. [14:39] schestowitz using google is eaier than running a .py file [14:39] martylake I am trying to understand your point, which is more elaborate than "LLM = bad". [14:40] martylake what you are saying is: LLM are expensive, and built on top of risky data sources, [14:40] martylake therefore, they are not useful ever ? [14:40] schestowitz that's nottt what i said [14:40] MinceR they seem to understand language and they can use it [14:40] martylake please correct me. [14:40] schestowitz you are conflating two things [14:40] MinceR they seem to be working fine in that regard, but people overhype them [14:41] martylake nods at MinceR overyhpe comment [14:41] schestowitz you moved the debate from chaffbots (chatbots) [14:41] schestowitz to code [14:41] martylake I tried to pick a concrete example, because staying vague enough doesnt get me to understand. [14:41] martylake moving the debate wasnt the goal. [14:41] schestowitz i see [14:41] schestowitz anyway, those are different things [14:42] schestowitz like debating copyrights [14:42] schestowitz and then trademarks [14:42] martylake it started out as "LLM is not new" [14:42] TR News Why are April 24 remembrances being banned? https://www.bianet.org/english/minorities/277680-why-are-april-24-remembrances-being-banned [14:43] TR Bot Why are April 24 remembrances being banned? - Evrim Kepenek - english [14:43] martylake which expanded to "usefulness of LLM is better than previous working examples of related AI-tech like context-free grammar" [14:44] TR News Turkey with Putin.. AND NATO? https://www.bianet.org/english/politics/277698-defense-ministers-of-turkey-russia-syria-and-iran-to-meet-in-moscow [14:44] martylake and I tried to pick a concrete example of emergent behavior of LLM that I havent seen of related AI-tech like context-free grammar. [14:44] TR Bot Defense Ministers of Turkey, Russia, Syria and Iran to meet in Moscow - english [14:45] martylake Phrased differently then: how come LLM are not new, but they werent accessible before? [14:46] schestowitz they are a generation [14:46] schestowitz on top of something old [14:46] schestowitz that nobody bothered with much [14:46] schestowitz otuside academia [14:47] schestowitz it wasn't done much before as: [14:47] schestowitz 1) it's expensive [14:47] schestowitz 2) no business model (See (1)) [14:47] schestowitz 3) it's useless [14:47] schestowitz all 3 are still applicable [14:47] schestowitz but that helps Mcirosoft distract [14:47] schestowitz it needs to change subject [14:47] schestowitz "clown colmputing" failed [14:47] schestowitz "mobile-first" failed [14:47] schestowitz Windows is failing [14:47] martylake about $crosofrt distract, there is no debate. [14:47] schestowitz so they need to present a "New Deal" [14:47] schestowitz for shareholders [14:47] schestowitz so they took some kids in california [14:47] schestowitz who toyed around with some models [14:48] schestowitz and then rbibes publishers [14:48] schestowitz aka "media partners" [14:48] schestowitz when i did my phd we did PCM [14:48] martylake but "3) its useless" is not the reality. [14:48] schestowitz a new version of PDMs [14:48] schestowitz point distribution models are 1990s [14:48] schestowitz invented here in manchester [14:48] schestowitz we saw other potential [14:48] schestowitz for colour analysis [14:48] schestowitz and some incubated startups did it here [14:48] schestowitz in the science parks etc. [14:49] schestowitz but there was no good business case [14:49] schestowitz martylake: it's pretty useless [14:49] schestowitz the case you prsented is not LLMs [14:49] schestowitz it's code [14:49] schestowitz plagiarism likely [14:49] schestowitz of GPL violation [14:49] schestowitz biab [14:50] TR News Censorship of history https://www.bianet.org/english/minorities/277713-police-prevent-armenian-genocide-commemoration-in-istanbul [14:50] TR Bot Police prevent Armenian Genocide commemoration in stanbul - Evrim Kepenek - english [14:50] martylake friend uses google to create python script to scrap, fails. same friend chats with GPT4, succeeds. how is that not success ? [14:51] martylake how is that not related to LLMs ? [14:51] schestowitz chats are not for code [14:51] schestowitz better use stack exchange [14:51] schestowitz or similar [14:51] schestowitz they have working examples [14:52] schestowitz btw, scrape/scraping is not hard [14:52] psydruid how much did training GTP4 cost and how will it ever give a positive return on investment? [14:52] schestowitz and hardly a unique thing [14:52] schestowitz now I feel a little trolls tbh [14:52] schestowitz *trolled [14:52] psydruid if it wasn't for billions in investment, would it ever get off the ground? [14:52] schestowitz it's like branson with his spaceship [14:53] schestowitz for rich 'tourists' [14:53] psydruid the ongoing cost is astronomical [14:53] schestowitz it CAN be done [14:53] schestowitz but how many would do it [14:53] schestowitz and how many times? [14:53] psydruid hence queries are rate-limited [14:53] martylake schestowitz: am not trolling Ipromise. I just try to understand how people who thinks by themselves arrive at different conclusions. [14:53] schestowitz concorde is dead [14:54] psydruid isn't branson's spaceship business dead too? [14:54] schestowitz martylake: your friend did not need scraping code [14:54] schestowitz could get a catch-all toolbox [14:54] schestowitz and configure it [14:54] schestowitz scraping is a very widespread and generic task [14:54] schestowitz like global REP [14:54] martylake schestowitz: this failed too, because pages to be scrapped needed pagination (remember, friend it not computer-litterate) [14:54] schestowitz psydruid: like spacex and starlink [14:54] schestowitz not yet [14:54] schestowitz but it will be [14:55] martylake schestowitz: what you are saying, is that the apparent usefulness of LLM is just reaping the work of others ? [14:55] schestowitz that's not LLM [14:55] schestowitz you seem to be describing code scraping [14:55] schestowitz for scraping [14:56] schestowitz which is what microsoft did [14:56] schestowitz scraped lots of stuff in shithub [14:56] schestowitz inc. gpl/copyleft [14:56] schestowitz then spewed out large portions of code [14:56] schestowitz with attribution stripped off intentionally [14:56] martylake I am describing the task that friend could not accomplish before, and succedded with help of chatbot. [14:56] schestowitz back late [14:56] psydruid martylake, would your friend use this code to get the results your friend needed, if this friend had to pay the actual cost of training and running the code? [14:56] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/funny-tax-memes-tweets-5.jpg [14:56] psydruid is Microsoft even charging what it actually costs? [14:57] schestowitz back later [14:57] schestowitz this "Askign for a friend" stuff feels like drive-by time-wasting [14:57] psydruid it does [14:57] MinceR when was the last time MICROS~1 could charge a price that covered their costs? [14:57] TR News Over 100 journalists, lawyers, politicians detained in raids targeting pro-Kurdish groups https://www.bianet.org/english/law/277727-over-100-journalists-lawyers-politicians-detained-in-raids-targeting-pro-kurdish-groups [14:57] TR Bot Journalists, lawyers, politicians detained across Turkey in raids targeting pro-Kurdish groups - english [14:58] martylake huh, I dont understand how LLMs can be considered useless for everyone and all use-cases. [14:58] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:58] martylake maybe I dont speak proper english. [14:58] psydruid they don't exist without huge investments that most companies can't make [14:58] psydruid and then the benefits aren't clear [14:58] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:58] TR News AXIOS = MOAR Microsoft spam, same day as Microsoft layoffs https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/ai-chatgpt-blogs-web-writing-training-data [14:58] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/ai-chatgpt-blogs-web-writing-training-data ) [14:59] MinceR there's a leaked LLM and its derivatives already [14:59] martylake psydruid: cost of training: no one can, its too expensive. Like the cost of writing your own linux kernel for scratch before using a computer. [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [15:00] martylake psydruid: cost of running the model: there are leaked LLM that you can run locally, they output 1 or 2 words per second, so less usefull, but still manageable. [15:00] psydruid that wouldn't be a linux kernel, but something else [15:00] psydruid leaked by whom? and was this planned? [15:00] TR News Terrible attack on people's rights. Do not promote this utter junk. https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/reverse-atms-banking-cashless-payments [15:00] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/reverse-atms-banking-cashless-payments ) [15:00] psydruid is that like stealing? [15:00] psydruid I don't think that's what should be encouraged [15:00] MinceR afaik LLaMA was leaked from meta AI [15:01] TR News Cashless is for the brainless. Look up "sheep". [15:01] psydruid better to develop it out in the open with a free licence from the very beginning [15:01] psydruid at least then you know what you are up to [15:01] MinceR allegedly the accompanying code is free [15:01] MinceR but, as usual, the model is a black box [15:01] martylake psydruid: some people are doing that too, see gpt4all [15:01] MinceR or at least the information stored in its weights is [15:02] schestowitz let's talk about microsoft layoffs again [15:02] schestowitz not the chaff [15:02] psydruid I can't get excited about a chatbot using data from a company called "ClosedAI" [15:02] martylake psydruid: agreed! [15:02] schestowitz https://www.businessinsider.com/it-is-easier-to-poach-big-tech-staff-now-says-intuit-ceo-2023-4?r=US&IR=T [15:02] TR Bot It's Easier to Poach Big Tech Staff Now, Says Intuit CEO [15:03] TR News "But the company still faces headwinds, as a decline in cloud revenue could spoil the tech giant's quarter." https://www.aol.co.uk/news/trending-tickers-microsoft-alphabet-visa-102831659.html [15:03] TR Bot Trending tickers: Microsoft | Alphabet | Visa | UBS | Anglo-American [15:04] martylake so, all those layoffs, hourly rate of developpers went up since forever. Is it time for developers to change job yet? [15:04] TR News "Microsoft reports its third quarter earnings after the close of trading this Tuesday." https://www.aol.co.uk/news/trending-tickers-microsoft-alphabet-visa-102831659.html there are MOAR Microsoft layoffs this week [15:05] TR News 3M Lays Off 6,000 https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianbushard/2023/04/25/2023-layoff-tracker-3m-lays-off-6000-while-disney-cuts-4000/ [15:05] TR Bot 2023 Layoff Tracker: 3M Lays Off 6,000 While Disney Cuts 4,000 [15:06] TR News VR, HEY HI, meta smart clown clown clown .... AKA "tech" journalism [sic] in 2023 [15:07] TR News oscillator https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/op-amp-contest-go-down-an-octave-no-fft-no-pll-no-oscillator/ | Source: Hackaday [15:07] TR Bot Amp Contest: Go Down An Octave, No FFT, No PLL, No Oscillator! | Hackaday [15:08] TR News "Recently, I wrote about the mistake that Neil deGrasse Tyson made by appearing on the podcast of antivaccine leader and influencer Del Bigtree." https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/2023/04/24/antivaxxers-attack-scientific-consensus-as-a-manufactured-construct/ | [15:08] TR Bot Antivaxxers attack scientific consensus as a "manufactured construct" - RESPECTFUL INSOLENCE [15:09] martylake "Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella, who spearheaded the firm's multibillion-dollar investment with ChatGPT-maker OpenAI": is it the root-cause of all those layoffs ? (sorry of naive question) [15:10] schestowitz i did not quote that [15:10] schestowitz why did you? [15:10] schestowitz Nadella is a dumb man dancing to the tune of Creepy Bill and Smith [15:10] schestowitz i don't mention Nadella [15:10] schestowitz it's a decoy [15:11] psydruid Nadella is a puppet while Bill and Smith still pull the strings [15:11] schestowitz primitive person too [15:11] schestowitz watch what he said about women [15:11] schestowitz like some idiot from a villege [15:11] schestowitz in the middle ages [15:11] schestowitz *village [15:11] psydruid fortunatley I don't know him all that well [15:11] schestowitz at least afaik he did not fly Epstei Airlines [15:11] psydruid fortunately* [15:11] schestowitz unlike Creepy Bill [15:12] schestowitz https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [15:12] TR Bot Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [15:12] schestowitz i spoke to someone from microsoft [15:12] schestowitz about Microsoft and ICE [15:12] schestowitz he assured me nadella sent an emaiol [15:12] schestowitz to say it's OK [15:12] schestowitz he is indian [15:12] schestowitz so it's OK [15:12] schestowitz and he sent message to all the employees [15:12] schestowitz Microsoft racism is OK [15:13] schestowitz Microsoft imperial, is OK [15:13] schestowitz according to a "real" indian [15:13] schestowitz controlled by other people [15:13] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/ [15:13] TR Bot Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights [15:13] schestowitz "http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/" [15:13] schestowitz "http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/" [15:13] schestowitz " [15:13] schestowitz While the CEO position has changed hands several times, Brad Smiths role in the company has only increased exponentially and is to the point where he is both wearing the pants and leading the dance while Satya is wearing the skirt and doing what hes told. " [15:13] schestowitz firefox stack defective [15:13] schestowitz since ages ago [15:14] schestowitz maybe one day firefox will regain clipboard compatibiliry [15:14] schestowitz maybe baker will write the patches [15:14] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/ [15:14] TR Bot People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because Its Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | Techrights [15:14] schestowitz if microsoft added india to the ban [15:14] schestowitz nadella will write to 150k "MSFT" salary receivers [15:14] schestowitz and insist it's OK [15:14] schestowitz and totally not racist [15:15] schestowitz now they run puff pieces about him [15:15] schestowitz being "humble" [15:15] schestowitz 3.5 million dollar house [15:15] schestowitz they try to demonise the gulag CEO [15:15] schestowitz and never mind shares they hold [15:15] schestowitz it's a smear campaign [15:15] schestowitz poor little satya [15:15] schestowitz with his home wine cellar and a home theatre [15:15] schestowitz evil pichai [15:15] schestowitz greedy gulag!! [15:15] schestowitz be most like bill [15:15] schestowitz borrow a friend's plane [15:16] schestowitz save the world [15:16] schestowitz don't pollute [15:16] schestowitz share a plane with underage girld [15:16] schestowitz while your otherr 4 aircrafts park somewhere [15:16] schestowitz (bill gates [15:16] martylake schestowitz: " why did you?" that quote has nothing to do with teh previous discussion. [15:16] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/10/melinda-sickened-by-bill/ [15:16] TR Bot According to the Wall Street Journal, Bill Gatess Relationship with Jeffrey Epstein Caused the Bill-Melinda Divorce (While the Media Deflected to Dr. Stallman, Using a Phony Scandal) | Techrights [15:18] TR News "A rite of passage in decades past for the electronics experimenter was the crystal radio." https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/half-crystal-radio-half-regenerative-radio/ | Source: Hackaday [15:18] TR Bot Crystal Radio, Half Regenerative Radio | Hackaday [15:18] TR News "If one is serious about testing the stiffness of materials or parts" https://hackaday.com/2023/04/24/testing-part-stiffness-no-need-to-re-invent-the-bending-rig/ | Source: Hackaday [15:18] TR Bot Part Stiffness? No Need To Re-invent The Bending Rig | Hackaday [15:19] TR News "The DEA has always been ridiculous when it comes to drugs." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/deas-fentanyl-narrative-clown-car-being-overseen-by-a-reformer-who-replaced-old-corruption-with-her-own-brand-of-corruption/ | Source: Techdirt [15:19] TR Bot Fentanyl Narrative Clown Car Being Overseen By A Reformer Who Replaced Old Corruption With Her Own Brand Of Corruption | Techdirt [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:20] TR News techdirt may be missing the point that those games are sometimes funded by the army, get used to make war looks like fun and games, then recruit https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/red-cross-continues-to-want-to-pretend-that-video-game-wars-are-irl-wars/ | Source: Techdirt [15:20] TR Bot Cross Continues To Want To Pretend That Video Game Wars Are IRL Wars | Techdirt [15:21] psydruid schestowitz, I'm getting the idea we have another troll on our hands, one that portrays itself as "more benign [15:21] psydruid the topc keeps coming back to chaffbots [15:21] schestowitz yes, it's a tactic [15:21] psydruid topic* [15:21] schestowitz hence I dais back later [15:21] schestowitz politely [15:21] schestowitz *said [15:22] schestowitz it's like an anglican yuhong [15:23] TR News Pooh's online army and offline army worldwide https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/us-located-chinese-cop-shops-allegedly-targeted-people-for-comparing-president-xi-to-winnie-the-pooh/ | Source: Techdirt [15:23] TR Bot Chinese Cop Shops Allegedly Targeted People For Comparing President Xi To Winnie The Pooh | Techdirt [15:24] TR News KOSA and EARN IT https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/senator-durbins-stop-csam-act-has-some-good-ideas-mixed-in-with-some-bad-ideas/ | Source: Techdirt [15:24] TR Bot Durbins STOP CSAM Act Has Some Good Ideas Mixed In With Some Very Bad Ideas That Will Do More Harm Than Good | Techdirt [15:25] TR News union-busting https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/24/workers-fighting-union-busting-may-have-a-new-legal-tool-at-their-disposal/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:25] TR Bot Fighting Union-Busting May Have a New Legal Tool at Their Disposal - scheerpost.com [15:26] martylake well, you have been trolled quite hard lately it seems, so its understandable that my questions appear as trolling too. [15:26] martylake anyway, have a good day! [15:30] psydruid goodbye troll! [15:30] schestowitz come back with another sock? [15:31] schestowitz or target a more gullible news site? [15:31] TR News "EARN IT" https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/24/the-earn-it-bill-is-back-seeking-to-scan-our-messages-and-photos/ | Source: Scheerpost [15:31] TR Bot EARN IT Bill Is Back, Seeking To Scan Our Messages and Photos - scheerpost.com [15:32] TR News Weapons of secrecy? https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/new-york-court-rules-state-police-cant-keep-hiding-its-misconduct-records-from-the-public/ | Source: Techdirt [15:32] TR Bot York Court Rules State Police Cant Keep Hiding Its Misconduct Records From The Public | Techdirt [15:33] psydruid don't forget to bring yuhong and matlock with you next time [15:33] TR News "key reason Elon Musk said he was getting rid of the legacy Twitter " https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/elon-seems-to-think-the-cruelest-thing-he-can-do-to-people-is-to-pretend-they-want-to-associate-with-him/ | Source: Techdirt [15:33] TR Bot Seems To Think The Cruelest Thing He Can Do To People Is To Pretend They Want To Associate With Him | Techdirt [15:34] schestowitz who was matlock? [15:34] schestowitz it rings a bell [15:34] psydruid hayden barnes [15:34] schestowitz the WSL guy had several nyms [15:34] schestowitz ah, it's another one of his nyms [15:34] schestowitz he used 4 or 5 nyms [15:34] schestowitz but never his real one [15:34] psydruid I don't know which other ones he had [15:34] schestowitz i cannot remember eithe [15:35] schestowitz rand it does not matter [15:35] psydruid I just remember destroying him in this chat [15:35] schestowitz gonna look even harder at what they try to distract FROM [15:35] schestowitz https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/economy/arid-41123761.html [15:35] TR Bot Big Tech results to test whether layoffs is passing phase or indicator of recession [15:36] schestowitz they lump them all together [15:36] schestowitz which is unhelpful imho [15:36] schestowitz GAFAM [15:36] schestowitz aka MAGMA [15:36] schestowitz "meta" [15:36] psydruid they're coordinating with the x86 hardware people [15:37] TR News "My Heart Goes Out To...": Meta Employee Writes Heartfelt Note On Getting Sacked https://www.ndtv.com/feature/facebook-my-heart-goes-out-to-meta-employee-writes-heartfelt-note-on-getting-sacked-3978225 [15:37] TR Bot Facebook - "My Heart Goes Out To...": Meta Employee Writes Heartfelt Note On Getting Sacked [15:37] psydruid who are gaslighting people with "facts" about the rising cost of resources [15:37] psydruid right from Microsoft's playbook [15:38] psydruid https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-and-Intel-motherboard-prices-skyrocket-past-surging-inflation-rates-thanks-to-35-40-ASP-increases.704029.0.html [15:38] TR Bot and Intel motherboard prices skyrocket past surging inflation rates thanks to 35-40% ASP increases - NotebookCheck.net News [15:38] TR News LOOK OVA' THERE!! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI IT"SSSSSSSSSS AMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZING https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/04/25/tech-investors-focus-on-profits-after-layoffs-companies-to-highlight-ai/ [15:38] TR Bot Tech investors focus on profits after layoffs; companies to highlight AI | Cyprus Mail [15:38] psydruid past inflation rates [15:38] psydruid only have 3% margins [15:39] psydruid welp, better get out of that business then [15:39] schestowitz TESLA down 10% in ONE DAY [15:39] schestowitz MSFT will collapse too [15:39] schestowitz it's trying to buy time [15:39] psydruid but that's not what the hardware troll wanted to hear [15:39] schestowitz before the breakdown [15:40] psydruid instead insisting on "educating" people about the fully valid reasons for increasing prices [15:40] psydruid x86 hardware OEMs will collapse in the wake of Microsoft's collapse too [15:42] schestowitz that can happen soon [15:42] schestowitz tryint toi find what MSFT is trying to distract FROM [15:42] schestowitz still looking [15:42] schestowitz yesterday it was aazure layoffs [15:42] schestowitz ainc. complete shutdown of a whole teamn [15:42] schestowitz only ONE source covered this [15:42] schestowitz amazing that no other publisher even bothered [15:43] schestowitz if nobody reports it, does it ever "happen"? [15:43] psydruid I don't think you'll see anything about it in the media [15:43] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/08/21/ibm-layoffs-in-marketing/ [15:43] TR Bot Many IBM Layoffs (in Marketing), But the Media Is Not Mentioning Those Layoffs At All | Techrights [15:43] psydruid it will just be like "Microsoft is gone, but life goes on" [15:43] schestowitz almost nobody covered how github had TWO waves of layoffs [15:43] schestowitz so far this year [15:43] schestowitz maybe there was a third [15:43] psydruid and then they'll latch onto the next thing [15:43] schestowitz but nobody reported it [15:43] schestowitz media blackout [15:43] schestowitz media denyout [15:43] psydruid Indian sources? [15:43] schestowitz one [15:44] schestowitz iirc, they broke that news [15:44] psydruid I think you'll see that increasingly US media won't report on things [15:44] psydruid it's an incestuous relationship they have with their sponsors/investors [15:45] schestowitz https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/stocks-lower-first-republic-microsoft-google-general-electric [15:45] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thestreet.com/investing/stocks/stocks-lower-first-republic-microsoft-google-general-electric ) [15:45] psydruid so they may as well be considered useless [15:45] schestowitz microsoft needs shareholders' money [15:45] schestowitz inc. pensioners' [15:45] schestowitz with money tired to MSFT crime [15:45] schestowitz so they can keep losing OTHER people's money [15:45] schestowitz with crap like "HEY HI" [15:45] schestowitz and bribing the media, officials etc. [15:46] *XFaCE has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:46] psydruid that's why I advocate pulling the plug fast [15:46] TR News broadband https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/dumb-state-laws-blocking-community-broadband-could-mar-historic-subsidy-efforts/ | Source: Techdirt [15:46] TR Bot State Laws Blocking Community Broadband Could Mar Historic Subsidy Efforts | Techdirt [15:46] *prurigro has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:47] TR News The Layoffs at Red Hat Validate What Weve Said for Years About IBMs Hostility http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/in-retrospect-ibmhat/ [15:47] TR Bot The Layoffs at Red Hat Validate What Weve Said for Years About IBMs Hostility | Techrights [15:47] psydruid the longer they can prolong this, the more industries they'll try to get into, infect and destroy [15:47] TR News One Common Theme is That Companies Which Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/buzzwords-business/ [15:47] TR Bot One Common Theme is That Companies Which Lack a Business Model Fall Back on Buzzwords Like AI and Crypto | Techrights [15:47] TR News The Clown Computing and AI Bubble http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/the-clown-computing-and-ai-bubble/ [15:47] TR Bot The Clown Computing and AI Bubble | Techrights [15:47] schestowitz they identify critics [15:47] schestowitz single them out [15:47] schestowitz and attack [15:48] psydruid like they attacked you and me [15:48] schestowitz example: [15:48] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2009/04/25/microsoft-censorship-on-the-surface/ [15:48] TR Bot Negative Review of MS Surface Published, Microsoft Contacts Blogger and Has It Removed | Techrights [15:48] schestowitz they automate this, too [15:48] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_PR_Agencies [15:48] TR Bot Microsoft PR Agencies - Techrights [15:48] schestowitz look under http://techrights.org/wiki/Visible_Technologies [15:48] TR Bot Visible Technologies - Techrights [15:48] schestowitz it's how Microsoft selects "atargets" [15:48] schestowitz people who say "undesirable" (to Microsoft) things [15:48] TR News Nym Technologies for Privacy and Freedom on GNU/Linux http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/nym-libreplanet-ahmed-ghappour/ [15:49] TR Bot Nym Technologies for Privacy and Freedom on GNU/Linux | Techrights [15:49] TR News Linux Foundation Formally Selling SPAM Services in Violation of Terms of Services http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/lf-lecturing-us-while/ [15:49] TR Bot Linux Foundation Formally Selling SPAM Services in Violation of Terms of Services | Techrights [15:49] psydruid repurposing old hardware with free software should be encouraged more again [15:49] schestowitz they can also send thugs like gulagboy [15:49] schestowitz to harass people, projects, orgs [15:49] psydruid even if it's Microsoft Surface [15:49] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/funny-tax-memes-tweets-26.jpg [15:49] *XFaCE (~XFaCE@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [15:49] schestowitz while sliding microsoft code [15:49] schestowitz and calling that "security" [15:49] TR News Sean OBrien and Mikalai Birokou on Least Authority Services via Free Software http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/least-authority-services-via-free-software/ [15:50] TR Bot Sean OBrien and Mikalai Birokou on Least Authority Services via Free Software | Techrights [15:50] psydruid gulagboy sides with Microsoft over the real free software community [15:50] schestowitz opposing nsa and microsoft back doors is "transphobic" [15:50] psydruid why he was ever in the FSF, I don't know [15:50] TR News In the Worlds Biggest Population, Microsofts Bing Fell Below 1%, Down Sharply Since ChatGPT First Announced http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/chatgpt-failure/ [15:50] TR Bot In the Worlds Biggest Population, Microsofts Bing Fell Below 1%, Down Sharply Since ChatGPT First Announced | Techrights [15:50] schestowitz psydruid: it's called infilltration [15:50] psydruid that's like a mole right in the heart of the enemy's base [15:50] schestowitz and it can be facilitated with ourside forces/money [15:50] schestowitz so the outsider becomes insider [15:51] schestowitz it's called "campaign contribution" in USA [15:51] psydruid you remove the tumor and recover [15:51] schestowitz or "lbbying" [15:51] schestowitz how corporations put their people inside Senate, Congress, High office [15:51] schestowitz even Supreme Court [15:51] schestowitz they tild the scale [15:51] schestowitz *tilt [15:51] TR News Aggressive Microsoft Marketing/Lies as Bing Falls Closer to 2% Market Share, Google Gains More Share (ChatGPT Has Only Harmed Bing, Which Has Layoffs Too) http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/chatgpt-has-only-harmed-bing/ [15:51] TR Bot Aggressive Microsoft Marketing/Lies as Bing Falls Closer to 2% Market Share, Google Gains More Share (ChatGPT Has Only Harmed Bing, Which Has Layoffs Too) | Techrights [15:52] schestowitz spy agencies do the same [15:52] schestowitz they groom foreign people [15:52] schestowitz to enter a government [15:52] schestowitz and then work for them from the inside [15:52] *prurigro (~prurigro@uzfeivw9fp6ba.irc) has joined #techrights [15:52] schestowitz usa and russia do this a lot [15:52] schestowitz see what moldova deals with this year [15:53] schestowitz "Working behind the scenes to orchestrate "independent" praise of our technology, and damnation of the enemy's, is a key evangelism function during the Slog. "Independent" analyst's report should be issued, praising your technology and damning the competitors (or ignoring them). "Independent" consultants should write columns and articles, give conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our behalf (and setting them up [15:53] schestowitz as experts in the new technology, available for just $200/hour). "Independent" academic sources should be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). "Independent" courseware providers should start profiting from their early involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage should be sought and turned to our advantage." [15:53] schestowitz -Microsoft, internal document [15:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf [15:53] TR News The Microsoft Spin Machine Resumes Amid Layoffs, Azures Decline, and Worse News http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/microsoft-spin-machine-hey-hi/ [15:53] TR Bot The Microsoft Spin Machine Resumes Amid Layoffs, Azures Decline, and Worse News | Techrights [15:53] TR News LibrePlanet: Dr. William Cooper Davidon Uses Boeing 737 Max Aircrafts as Example of Proprietary Software Causing Deaths http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/boeing-737-max-aircraft/ [15:53] TR Bot LibrePlanet: Dr. William Cooper Davidon Uses Boeing 737 Max Aircrafts as Example of Proprietary Software Causing Deaths | Techrights [15:53] schestowitz pay gartner et al [15:53] schestowitz to make "clown" seem trendy [15:53] schestowitz and they "hey hi" [15:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group [15:54] TR Bot Gartner Group - Techrights [15:54] schestowitz gartner also lobbies officials [15:54] schestowitz for microsoft [15:55] TR News Press Report This Morning: Microsoft Azure Layoffs Again, Entire Team Laid Off (Updated) http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/wiki-layoffs-nz/ [15:55] TR Bot Press Report This Morning: Microsoft Azure Layoffs Again, Entire Team Laid Off (Updated) | Techrights [15:56] TR News People Are Getting Laid Off https://www.manufacturing.net/operations/news/22847192/people-are-getting-laid-off "continue to piggyback on each other, with Microsoft" [15:56] TR Bot Are Getting Laid Off | Manufacturing.net [15:57] TR News AZURE HAD MORE LAYOFFS THIS WEEK! "Microsoft: Wall Street is going to zero in on what the software giant has to say about its Azure clown business" https://seekingalpha.com/article/4596228-wall-street-breakfast-big-week-big-tech [15:57] TR Bot Wall Street Breakfast: Big Week, Big Tech | Seeking Alpha [15:58] TR News Ocado closes centre as grocery inflation dips https://www.cmcmarkets.com/en-gb/opto/ocado-closes-centre-as-grocery-inflation-dips [15:58] TR Bot Ocado closes centre as grocery inflation dips [15:59] TR News Precedential No. 13: TTAB Allows Cancellation Respondent to Correct Registration Ownership http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/04/precedential-no-13-ttab-allows.html [15:59] TR Bot The TTABlog: Precedential No. 13: TTAB Allows Cancellation Respondent to Correct Registration Ownership ● Apr 25 [16:00] TR News amazon https://www.commondreams.org/news/amazon-drivers-teamsters-union-california | Source: Common Dreams [16:00] TR Bot 'Historic Victory': Amazon Contractor Delivery Drivers Join Teamsters [16:11] psydruid https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-chatbot-crackdown-microsoft-co-201820752.html?.tsrc=rss&guccounter=1 [16:11] TR Bot AI Chatbot Crackdown: Microsoft & Co. Face Regulatory Heat In Europe as ChatGPT Reignites Debate [16:12] psydruid they should be fined and forbidden [16:13] TR News "The blue state could become the 20th in the U.S. to enact a so-called critical infrastructure law." https://scheerpost.com/2023/04/24/a-new-bill-in-oregon-could-target-environmental-protesters-as-terrorists/ | Source: Scheerpost [16:13] TR Bot New Bill in Oregon Could Target Environmental Protesters as Terrorists - scheerpost.com [16:14] psydruid https://ts2.space/en/italy-becomes-first-western-country-to-block-chatgpt-over-privacy-concerns/ [16:14] TR Bot Italy Becomes First Western Country to Block ChatGPT Over Privacy Concerns TS2 SPACE [16:14] schestowitz psydruid: bribe em some more? [16:15] psydruid schestowitz, bribes are always welcome [16:15] psydruid it used be developers developers developers [16:15] psydruid these days it's all about bribes bribes bribes [16:17] TR News CLASS ACTION against MSFT. "The amended complaint against Microsoft includes new comparisons and metrics for judging the BlackRock funds, but these changes arent enough to state a viable claim for fiduciary imprudence under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act, the court said." https://news.bloomberglaw.com/class-action/microsoft-again-beats-challenge-to-401k-plans-blackrock-funds [16:17] TR Bot Microsoft Again Beats Challenge to 401(k) Plans BlackRock Funds [16:18] MinceR it was always all about litigation, corruption and cult-building [16:18] MinceR maybe the cult-building started with a little delay, after the cult leaders realized what crApple was doing [16:19] TR News (NEW): Next Version of Leap Micro Reaches Release Candidate http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Next_Version_of_Leap_Micro_Reaches_Release_Candidate.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Next_Version_of_Leap_Micro_Reaches_Release_Candidate.gmi [16:19] TR Bot Tux Machines Next Version of Leap Micro Reaches Release Candidate [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:20] TR News (NEW): cURL Fed Up With Microsoft, Microsoft Attacks Some More Free Software Projects (and the Internet), Microsoft 360 Down Again http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/cURL_Fed_Up_With_Microsoft_Microsoft_Attacks_Some_More_Free_Sof.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/cURL_Fed_Up_With_Microsoft_Microsoft_Attacks_Some_More_Free_Sof.gmi [16:20] TR Bot Tux Machines cURL Fed Up With Microsoft, Microsoft Attacks Some More Free Software Projects (and the Internet), Microsoft 360 Down Again [16:21] schestowitz warn? [16:21] schestowitz close? [16:22] schestowitz no cigar? [16:22] schestowitz will keep checking [16:22] schestowitz martylake: are've gone quiet [16:22] schestowitz help us out here.. [16:22] *schestowitz checks for weat marks [16:22] schestowitz *sweat [16:25] psydruid martylake will be back soon [16:25] psydruid but reporting to Nadella is more important now [16:27] schestowitz they doin't work for microsoft typically [16:27] schestowitz not directyly [16:28] schestowitz the briefings come from pr firms [16:28] schestowitz that microsoft lists as official pr contacts [16:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_PR_Agencies [16:28] TR Bot Microsoft PR Agencies - Techrights [16:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Edelman [16:28] TR Bot Edelman - Techrights [16:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Visible_Technologies [16:28] TR Bot Visible Technologies - Techrights [16:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Visible_Technologies [16:29] psydruid the goal is the same [16:30] psydruid the information must go back to the mothership [16:30] psydruid he's gone silent because he's been found out [16:30] TR News Lisa Abramowicz a new Microsoft "asset" in Bloomberd "media"? Preparing the investors for the collapse by diverting attention to vapourware? One hour ago (headline): "Perhaps ChatGPT Will Make Us All Rich and Efficient: Surveillance". HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI "Will Make Us All Rich and Efficient" [16:31] TR News So how much budget did Microsoft set aside/allocate for today's trolling, spam and propaganda (bribed "media")? Bad results due soon. DO NOT MIND THE CLOWN COZ HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI! [16:32] TR News There are laws against lying to shareholders, but not against bribing the media to lie to shareholders. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI! [16:33] TR News Python https://opensource.com/article/23/4/retry-your-python-code-until-it-fails | Source: OpenSource.com [16:33] TR Bot your Python code until it fails | Opensource.com [16:33] TR News Tcl/Tk https://opensource.com/article/23/4/learn-tcltk-wish-simple-game | Source: OpenSource.com [16:33] TR Bot Tcl/Tk and Wish with this simple game | Opensource.com [16:33] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi [16:33] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [16:35] schestowitz This chan has so many articles per day. How do you keep up ? [16:35] schestowitz "your channel is on topic and there are many articles my boss does not like" [16:35] schestowitz "How can I slow y'all down?" [16:36] TR News Wall Street down sharply ahead of MSFT results (we already got told Azure is going down he toilet) https://www.reuters.com/markets/global-markets-wrapup-1-2023-04-25/ [16:36] TR Bot St dips, dollar gains on mixed earnings, economic worries | Reuters [16:38] TR News ""Investors are holding their breath for the earnings reports from Alphabet and Microsoft later in the day, and theyre worried that they may be disappointed," Stovall added." https://www.reuters.com/markets/global-markets-wrapup-1-2023-04-25/ [16:39] psydruid martylake, are you all-right, buddy? [16:39] psydruid we don't have to call an ambulance, do we? [16:39] schestowitz martylake: I need to tell you something [16:39] schestowitz it's important [16:40] schestowitz it's abour your family [16:40] TR News SCOTUS, Inc. https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/supreme-court-fights-future | Source: Common Dreams [16:40] TR Bot Opinion | Grandpa, Tell Me About the Time the Supreme Court Picked a Fight With the Future | Common Dreams [16:41] TR News EFF: The F stands for "trans" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/california-bill-stop-dragnet-surveillance-people-seeking-reproductive-and-gender | Source: EFF [16:41] TR Bot California Bill to Stop Dragnet Surveillance of People Seeking Reproductive and Gender-Affirming Care Passes Key Committees | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:42] TR News EFF: we do advocacy, but Barlow was wrong and we got rid of the other co-founder. He stood in our way. http://techrights.org/2023/04/19/framing-privacy-as-sex-issue/ [16:42] TR Bot EFF Takes Money From US Nazis to Speak for Prostitutes and Frame Privacy (or Net Liability) as a Sex Issue | Techrights [16:44] TR News "automated content moderation tools"... or EFF for Islam (in this context) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/eff-and-ecnls-comment-meta-oversight-board-term-shaheed | Source: EFF [16:44] TR Bot EFF and ECNL's Comment to the Meta Oversight Board on the Term 'Shaheed' | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:44] TR News "founder of the anti-corruption project Gulagu.net" https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/former-wagner-group-commander-who-described-killing-children-in-ukraine-brought-in-for-questioning-in-saratov | Source: Meduza [16:44] TR Bot Former Wagner Group commander, who described killing children in Ukraine, brought in for questioning in Saratov Meduza [16:45] TR News Polina Barskova https://meduza.io/en/feature/2023/04/24/does-that-make-me-charon | Source: Meduza [16:45] TR Bot Does that make me Charon? In her fiction, Polina Barskova is determined to see through the endless shimmer of untruths, half-truths, and pseudo-truths. Anna Razumnaya reviews her new book. Meduza [16:45] TR News lavrov https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/300-former-foreign-correspondents-in-moscow-demand-lavrov-release-evan-gershkovich | Source: Meduza [16:45] TR Bot 300 former foreign correspondents in Moscow demand Lavrov release Evan Gershkovich Meduza [16:46] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/17/funny-parenting-tweets-james-breakwell/ [16:46] TR Bot Dad Documents The Funniest Conversations He Has With His Daughters (40 Tweets) [16:52] TR News Shell got (bought) a seat there, offered by Koch and Trump a few years ago https://www.commondreams.org/news/supreme-court-fossil-fuels-climate | Source: Common Dreams [16:52] TR Bot US Supreme Court's Blow to Big Oil 'Should Open the Floodgates for More Lawsuits' [16:53] TR News Well, the economy is FINE. Providers you are in the business of KILLING people, legally. https://www.commondreams.org/news/global-military-spending | Source: Common Dreams [16:53] TR Bot Global Military Spending Hits All-Time High of $2.24 Trillion: Analysis [16:55] TR News WOW! "Trading sideways" is new euphemism for "COLLAPSING..." in this .... "slowing growth" economy https://www.investing.com/analysis/indexes-trade-sideways-ahead-of-big-tech-earnings-200637535 [16:55] TR Bot Trade Sideways Ahead of Big Tech Earnings | Investing.com [16:55] TR News So pundits already note Microsoft's results will suck. LOOK OVA' THERE! HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [16:56] TR News HEY HI is so young that even Bill Gates might want to look at it beneath the skirt [16:56] TR News unconstitutional https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/first-us-appellate-court-decide-finds-geofence-warrant-unconstitutional | Source: EFF [16:57] TR Bot First Appellate Court Finds Geofence Warrant Unconstitutional | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:57] TR News EFF, funded by some of the world's most aggressive DMCA abusers :/ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/dmca-cannot-save-you-your-own-words | Source: EFF [16:57] TR Bot The DMCA Cannot Protect You From Your Own Words | Electronic Frontier Foundation [16:58] TR News "A new bill on taxing remote workers has been submitted for consideration by Russias State Duma." https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/04/24/state-duma-to-consider-bill-on-30-percent-income-tax-withholding-for-russians-working-from-abroad | Source: Meduza [16:58] TR Bot State Duma to consider bill on 30-percent income tax withholding for Russians working from abroad Meduza [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Apr 25 [17:00] TR News EFF meanwhile promotes back-doored messaging disservices while shilling Microsoft spyware to people, calling it "privacy" (EFF spreads FUD against real solutions) https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/your-messaging-service-should-not-be-dea-informant | Source: EFF [17:00] TR Bot Your Messaging Service Should Not Be a DEA Informant | Electronic Frontier Foundation [17:01] TR News Pro Publica, bribed by the most militant anti-education fanatic in the world (Bill Gates, never even finished college), writing about schools again https://www.propublica.org/article/washington-private-special-educatino-schools-oversight [17:01] TR Bot Washington State Legislature Strengthens Oversight of Private Special Education Schools ProPublica [17:02] TR News Fake "populism"... must be the gulagboy type https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/zombie-populism/ | Source: The Nation [17:02] TR Bot The Zombie Populism of Today's GOP | The Nation [17:03] TR News Why work for (or buy from) Amazon? https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/labor-union-amazon-organizing/ | Source: The Nation [17:03] TR Bot There Is No Future for a Labor Movement That Fails to Organize at Amazon | The Nation [17:08] psydruid RIP martylake [17:09] schestowitz preoduct recalled [17:19] TR News Microsoft, Based in Redmond, is Exiting Redmond Amid Layoffs and Other Troubles | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/ [17:19] TR Bot Microsoft, Based in Redmond, is Exiting Redmond Amid Layoffs and Other Troubles | Techrights [17:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [17:20] schestowitz martylake: I need to tell you something urgently [17:20] schestowitz are you about? [17:20] schestowitz this is urgent [17:20] schestowitz hello? [17:20] martylake martylake: sure? [17:20] schestowitz did you see the above? [17:20] schestowitz what are your thoughts? [17:21] martylake not yet. [17:21] schestowitz why woluld they shut down part opf redmond? [17:21] schestowitz LLMs are "useful" [17:22] TR News Freedom https://www.thenation.com/article/world/horn-of-africa-athlete-refugees/ | Source: The Nation [17:22] TR Bot One Runner's Journey to Freedom | The Nation [17:22] martylake schestowitz: so many articles, are you referring to one in particular? [17:22] TR News "Martinez, now 64, had fled days before, one of 15,000 people ordered to leave as the fire spread." The sponsor of Pro Publica, Bill Gates, profits from fires. https://www.propublica.org/article/new-mexico-hermits-peak-calf-canyon-fema-housing | Source: Pro Publica [17:22] TR Bot The Federal Government Accidentally Burned Down Their Houses, Then Made It Hard to Come Home ProPublica [17:23] schestowitz martylake: http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/ [17:23] schestowitz it sounds like LLMs are not so useful [17:23] schestowitz if they were, this would not happen [17:23] martylake thanks [17:23] schestowitz this is the nervous system of the company [17:23] schestowitz sounds like they prepare for very major downsizing [17:23] schestowitz if this is done in redmond [17:23] schestowitz and 3k layoffs in 3 months in seattle [17:23] schestowitz looks like they're collapsing but try to deny it [17:25] martylake I see, when I meant useful, it was one annecdotical evidence, and you mean useful as in generating enough income to sustain investors? [17:25] schestowitz don't worry, the chaffbots can run the company [17:25] schestowitz surely [17:25] martylake haha [17:25] schestowitz martylake: ok, so they are f*ed [17:25] schestowitz wasting billions of energy bills etc. [17:26] schestowitz while having nothing to show for it [17:26] schestowitz bing is also collapsing [17:26] schestowitz in spite of all this LLM hype [17:26] schestowitz they basically capitulated [17:26] schestowitz Gulag Search won [17:26] schestowitz so they throw bing under the rug [17:26] schestowitz and say, [17:26] schestowitz look, LLM! [17:26] schestowitz "useful!" [17:26] schestowitz people sometimes try this and go, [17:26] schestowitz "hmm... not so useful" [17:26] martylake it was whole-in for LLM but didnt work in the end? [17:27] schestowitz nope [17:27] schestowitz it distrracted from the layoffs [17:27] schestowitz months and months of layoffs [17:27] schestowitz all around thr world [17:27] schestowitz maybe 30k? [17:27] schestowitz maybe only 20k? [17:27] schestowitz more coming in July [17:27] schestowitz 93% of the office in redmond vacated? [17:27] MinceR (cat) https://www.deviantart.com/arkus83/art/Soushka-904307297 [17:27] TR Bot by Arkus83 on DeviantArt [17:28] schestowitz see 4th paraagraph in the article [17:28] martylake how "great" is this great reset going to be? [17:28] schestowitz they are basically acting like they're shuttinfg down in redmondd [17:28] martylake and stunt llm pr to keep actions afloat [17:30] martylake thanks for clarification, I appreciate it! [17:30] schestowitz Brushed Under a Rug Today? Microsoft Exiting Redmond (93% of the Office Space Offloaded) [17:30] schestowitz martylake: did you know about this? [17:30] schestowitz all the news is like RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS RESULTS [17:30] martylake schestowitz: not at all [17:30] schestowitz and HEY HI HEY HIHEY HIHEY HIHEY HI\ [17:30] martylake I just learned reading your link [17:31] martylake but this chan has so many links, I cannot keep up [17:33] martylake another thing I dont understand, is the fear-porn that "ai experts" are agitating about soon to be released AGI that will kill humanity. I mean, you can get 5 mins of glory and likes, but it doesnt fit to this general RESULTS RESULTS scheme to me [17:36] schestowitz updatinh post [17:36] schestowitz with more info [17:36] schestowitz martylake: thanks for the tip [17:36] schestowitz and for bringing this to our attention [17:36] schestowitz martylake: , this has NOTHING to do with "AGI" [17:36] schestowitz we keep on topic [17:37] schestowitz it's anything but all that "HEY HI" stuff [17:37] schestowitz the signal is the collapse of the real business [17:37] schestowitz rather than vapourwar [17:42] TR News Because COVID is over. OBVIOUSLY! https://www.redmond-reporter.com/news/washingtons-covid-19-exposure-notification-app-to-end-may-11/ [17:42] TR Bot Washingtons COVID-19 exposure notification app to end May 11 | Redmond Reporter [17:48] martylake (catching up on previous chat): I went back to work, ha, my employer isnt $crosoft, not indirectly so thats good. [17:48] martylake but I wonder what is the magnitude of that mode of failure. [17:48] schestowitz edo you like microsoft at all? [17:48] schestowitz you use bsd or gnu/linux, right? [17:48] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Today_in_Techrights.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Today_in_Techrights.1.gmi [17:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [17:49] schestowitz martylake: in case you missed some posts [17:49] schestowitz they are listed above [17:49] martylake $crosoft have many many contractors, and I suspect if they are laying off 93% of redmont, most of their contractors will be gone. [17:49] schestowitz just now [17:49] schestowitz busy news day again [17:49] martylake schestowitz: thanks. [17:49] schestowitz no, reddmond is not the contractors [17:49] schestowitz contractors are companies like infosys [17:49] schestowitz managing their infra from india [17:49] schestowitz redmond is their very core [17:49] martylake this is what I meant, but english is not my main language so it went out poorly. [17:49] schestowitz and some bing people are moved there [17:49] schestowitz exiting bellevue [17:50] schestowitz https://www.seroundtable.com/photos/bing-team-moves-back-to-redmond-35278.html [17:50] TR Bot Bing Team Moves Back To Redmond From Bellevue After 13 Years [17:50] schestowitz essential context: [17:50] martylake yeah. so companies like infosys will surely be impacted. [17:50] schestowitz LOADS of bing layoffs this year [17:50] schestowitz maybe they allocate them a tiny office space [17:50] schestowitz to keep it running till it dies [17:50] schestowitz bing market share has collapsed in recent months [17:50] schestowitz but they want to keep those lights on [17:50] schestowitz and the brand [17:50] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/Bing_Reality_Log#2023 [17:50] TR Bot Bing Reality Log - Techrights [17:51] schestowitz martylake: the contractors [17:51] schestowitz the temps [17:51] schestowitz the perms [17:51] schestowitz lots of perms [17:51] schestowitz perms: http://techrights.org/2023/03/29/microsoft-seattle-layoffs/ [17:51] TR Bot In One City Alone Microsoft Fired Almost 3,000 Workers This Year (Were Still in March) | Techrights [17:51] schestowitz not contractors! [17:51] schestowitz they do not even count the contractors! [17:51] schestowitz those 3k people are not contractors [17:52] martylake DuckDuckGo is Bing ?! (catching up http://techrights.org/2023/02/10/bing-falls/ ) [17:52] TR Bot This Month, Microsoft Bing and Its Fake Privacy (Proxy) DuckDuckGo Fall to Lowest Share in Over a Year! | Techrights [17:52] schestowitz seems like a company shuffling the chairs on the deck of the Titanic [17:52] schestowitz and shouting HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI from the deck [17:52] martylake I am being redpilled at a speed I am not ready. [17:52] schestowitz "it's ok, shareholders, stay onboard" [17:52] schestowitz "we'll get this ship running again soon [17:52] schestowitz http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo [17:52] TR Bot DuckDuckGo - Techrights [17:53] schestowitz short story: they have a microsoft nda [17:53] schestowitz they report to micropsoft [17:53] schestowitz hosted by microsoft [17:53] schestowitz taking search results from bing [17:53] schestowitz and refuse to talk about why they pass data to microsoft [17:53] schestowitz aside from being hosted on it [17:53] schestowitz they also use microtosft for comms [17:53] *martylake s head is exploding [17:53] schestowitz it's basically a scam [17:53] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/07/02/ddg-privacy-abuser-in-disguise/ [17:53] TR Bot Why People Should Never Ever Use DuckDuckGo | Techrights [17:53] schestowitz summary ^& [17:54] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ [17:54] TR Bot Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights [17:54] schestowitz more detailed version [17:54] schestowitz biab [17:55] TR News Libraries https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/libraries-don-t-want-book-bans | Source: Common Dreams [17:55] TR Bot Opinion | Small Town Libraries Don't Want Imported Book Bans | Common Dreams [17:58] martylake great. [17:58] *martylake tries to stay calm. [17:58] schestowitz did you use ikt? [17:58] schestowitz *it [17:59] martylake of course I did, trusted the whole thing for years. [17:59] schestowitz i said for 12 years already it was a microsoft front [17:59] martylake got PR pranked. [17:59] schestowitz people ignored the evidence [17:59] martylake shit. [17:59] TR News Mexico https://www.commondreams.org/news/migrants-march-mexico | Source: Common Dreams [17:59] TR Bot 3,000 Migrants March Through Mexico to Protest Detention Centers After Deadly Fire [17:59] martylake schestowitz: I only discovered your website a few days ago, looking for cool IRC networks to idle. [17:59] schestowitz ddg market share collapsed last year ● Apr 25 [18:00] schestowitz as their NDA with Microsoft became very widespread knowledge [18:00] schestowitz months ago I saw DDG billboards [18:00] schestowitz in BUS STOPS [18:00] schestowitz who PAID for this? [18:01] schestowitz a US company [18:01] schestowitz with a tiny office in the US? [18:01] schestowitz without staff in it? [18:01] schestowitz they lacka business model [18:01] schestowitz so you know who funds them [18:01] schestowitz their webhost [18:01] schestowitz microsoft [18:02] TR News publishers too https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/french-publisher-moret-detained-uk/ | Source: The Nation [18:02] TR Bot What the UKs Arrest of a French Publisher Means for Public Intellectuals the World Over | The Nation [18:04] TR News "At the start of Milton Wexlers career as a psychoanalyst" https://www.thenation.com/article/culture/analyst-memoir-alice-wexler/ | Source: The Nation [18:04] TR Bot Whats Life Like for the Child of a Psychoanalyst? | The Nation [18:06] martylake schestowitz: which search engine do you recommend ? [18:06] martylake you mentionned searx before ? [18:06] schestowitz none in particular, but i use searx mostly [18:06] schestowitz depends on which instance [18:07] TR News Dabbling in Dart gemini://clanmorgan.org/gemlog/2023-04-25-dabbling-in-dart.gmi [18:07] schestowitz search engines are VERY expensive to run [18:07] schestowitz the real thing [18:07] schestowitz like indexing too [18:07] schestowitz DDG does not index [18:07] schestowitz it's a sieve [18:07] schestowitz so they all end up being like governmentr projects [18:07] schestowitz baidu, yandex, etc. [18:08] schestowitz and the business model is deception (ads, bias, omission) [18:08] TR News SpellBinding: AGINUTQ Wordo: CALLA gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2023-04-25.gmi [18:08] schestowitz in the 90s many people did use in-site search [18:08] schestowitz not "Google in this site" [18:09] schestowitz proper search [18:09] schestowitz and directories like DMOZ [18:09] -amdj/Wallops-We are pleased to announce the change of default stance for failed password-based login attempts previously announced here . Services will now no longer tell you about these unless you explicitly opt in to these messages. Instructions are located on that page. [18:09] TR News "Trademarks, patents, and copyrights are different types" gemini://dt.smol.pub/2023-04-24_10-trademarks-patents-copyrights [18:10] martylake I think Ifound your website when searching gemini websites, I find the idea interesting, but other IRC channels dedicated to gemini were very opiniated in terms of minorities-phobism. [18:10] TR News Cars and Power Demonstration gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/cars.gmi [18:11] schestowitz we were targeted a lot lately [18:11] schestowitz hence we tend to be suspiccious by default of new people [18:11] martylake your article about chatpgt-crosoft mention that it started one week ago [18:11] schestowitz we get extremists from both sides [18:12] schestowitz it intensified about 5 days ago [18:12] TR News Here we go round the tech failure bush gemini://textmonger.pollux.casa/gemlog/2023-04-24-01-here-we-go-round-the-tech-failure-bush.gmi [18:12] mjg59_ schestowitz: What did you mean when you claimed I "deny biology"? [18:12] schestowitz how to ruins irc network [18:13] schestowitz -breing in nazis [18:13] schestowitz bring in aggressive anti-nazis [18:13] schestowitz let thewm fight each other [18:13] schestowitz network in chaos [18:13] schestowitz the network can be about gardening [18:13] mjg59_ Maybe you should ban the naxis [18:13] schestowitz ^ case of point [18:13] martylake ^ gotcha [18:14] martylake I read once: dont feed the troll. Is this really working? [18:14] schestowitz we suspected you too might be trolling [18:14] schestowitz now i am not so sure [18:14] schestowitz but either way it was very chaotic lately [18:14] martylake thanks for reconsidering this. [18:14] schestowitz biab [18:14] martylake Iappreciate that. [18:14] mjg59_ I'm surprised that "Maybe you should ban the nazis" is a controversial suggestion [18:16] *schestowitz back to writing about gardening [18:18] mjg59_ Framing it as anti-nazis being as much of a problem as nazis seems, uh, fucked up [18:19] schestowitz gulagboy punched a nazi and his hand broke [18:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:21] mjg59_ ? [18:21] schestowitz we know your modus [18:21] schestowitz go somewhere else [18:21] schestowitz put your CoC in some other network [18:23] schestowitz if you want to actually help, go gather more info on that redmond capus of your masters at MSFT [18:23] schestowitz https://stallmansupport.org/comments-in-support-of-richard-stallman.html#polynka [18:24] TR Bot Comments in Support of Richard Stallman | Stallman Support [18:24] schestowitz "And as a transgender person, it disgusts me much that some people try to use us as a weapon against free software, by falsely accusing one of our biggest allies of transphobia, when in fact there is none. [18:24] schestowitz No, Stallman hasnt spent years on a campaign against using peoples correct pronouns, there literally wasnt such campaign. In fact, the cited GNU Kind Communication Guidelines literally advocate respecting peoples gender identity, and trying to twist them into something opposite is disingenuous and done with bad faith." [18:24] mjg59_ I'm not sure what to say here. Stallman has, for years, refused to use appropriate pronouns. [18:24] mjg59_ There's literally no argument here. He has an entire webpage justifying it. [18:25] schestowitz you are not trans [18:25] schestowitz the above person is [18:25] mjg59_ So? [18:25] schestowitz you don't speak for what you are not [18:26] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/http://techrights.org/2022/09/30/matthew-garrett-transphobic/ [18:26] TR Bot Matthew Garrett Admits Being a Transphobic Adult Before Choosing to Weaponise This to Defame and Then Cancel People Who Arent Transphobic | Techrights [18:26] mjg59_ You're not a free software developer [18:26] mjg59_ You're certainly not a kernel developer [18:26] mjg59_ And yet you keep speaking for people who are [18:26] mjg59_ Which is ok! [18:27] mjg59_ You should feel entitled to do so if you feel it's the right thing to do [18:27] martylake Professional trolling is annoying indeed. [18:28] TR News Links 25/04/2023: More Downtimes and Financial Woes at Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/financial-woes-at-microsoft/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/financial-woes-at-microsoft/ [18:28] TR Bot Links 25/04/2023: More Downtimes and Financial Woes at Microsoft | Techrights [18:28] mjg59_ But there is literally no argument that RMS refuses to use appropriate pronouns for some trans people [18:28] mjg59_ And has done so for years [18:28] martylake I have a "not found, sorry" for gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/financial-woes-at-microsoft/ [18:30] TR News (NEW): Haiku's (Kernel) Condition Variables API: Design & Implementation http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Haiku_s_Kernel_Condition_Variables_API_Design_Implementation.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Haiku_s_Kernel_Condition_Variables_API_Design_Implementation.gmi [18:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Haiku's (Kernel) Condition Variables API: Design & Implementation [18:30] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [18:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [18:31] schestowitz martylake: it is being generated rigth now [18:31] schestowitz the address is tentative [18:32] martylake schestowitz: works now [18:32] martylake thanks [18:32] *techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:33] martylake some links are just articles, and some other are groups of articles, isnt it? [18:33] schestowitz gulagboy: i will ask rms what they think and tell them that their views are wrong. all 3 of them (rms). [18:33] schestowitz martylake: yes, there is a daily format [18:34] schestowitz it's many years old [18:34] *techuser (~techuser@vwjh92tsyi8fw.irc) has joined #techrights [18:35] martylake okok [18:37] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/feed/ [18:37] schestowitz gemini://gemini.techrights.org/daily-feed/ [18:39] TR News Microsoft doing illegal stuff again. Stuffing unwanted crapware. https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-will-reportedly-unbundle-teams-from-office-to-avoid-antitrust-concerns-183139403.html [18:39] TR Bot will reportedly unbundle Teams from Office | Engadget [18:40] TR News ICBM/Red Hat hyping up Microsoft. Who does this company exist to serve anyway? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/gpt-4-digital-transformation [18:40] TR Bot GPT-4: 5 ways it can help your digital transformation | The Enterprisers Project [18:41] TR News Will Microsoft even exist in a decade? https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/microsoft-365-search-outage-affects-outlook-teams-and-sharepoint/ [18:41] TR Bot Microsoft 365 search outage affects Outlook, Teams, and SharePoint [18:42] TR News "Recent accidents with the Boeing 737 Max Aircraft illustrate the failure of proprietary software required to have undergone careful review following the F.A.A.s DO-178x certification process." http://techrights.org/2023/04/24/boeing-737-max-aircraft/ [18:42] TR Bot LibrePlanet: Dr. William Cooper Davidon Uses Boeing 737 Max Aircrafts as Example of Proprietary Software Causing Deaths | Techrights [18:44] TR News Did Red Hat outsource marketing to Microsoft? https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/artificial-intelligence-decision-making [18:44] TR Bot Artificial intelligence: 6 ways it improves decision-making | The Enterprisers Project [18:45] TR News Red Hat: listen to 'the suits' (like Jim AllowHurst), not techs https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/5-hbr-articles-cios [18:45] TR Bot 5 Harvard Business Review articles that will resonate with CIOs right now | The Enterprisers Project [18:46] TR News Vendor lock spun as "digital transformation" again https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/rethinking-digital-transformation [18:46] TR Bot 4 ways CIOs are rethinking digital transformation | The Enterprisers Project [18:46] TR News Huh? What employee retention? Red Hat, you've just fired over 700 of your OWN staff!! https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2023/4/employee-retention-tips [18:46] TR Bot Reimagining employee retention: 4 tips | The Enterprisers Project [18:47] TR News Why only Apple customers though? What has Apple even done for WINE? Nothin! https://www.wine-reviews.net/2023/04/bundlehunt-2023-summer-macos-app-bundle.html [18:47] TR Bot Wine Reviews : BundleHunt 2023 Summer macOS App Bundle is live [18:48] AdmFubar https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/millions-artifacts-misconfigured-enterprise-software-registries-pwning [18:48] TR Bot Millions of Artifacts, Misconfigured Enterprise Software Registries Are Ripe for Pwning [18:49] TR News For many of us, seeing people who are STILL active in Twitter feels like they are Musk's "enablers" (esp. if they have blue tick, i.e. they SPONSOR him!!). Why do this to oneself?? Have dignity, people. Move on. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/m7beya/elon-musk-twitter-blue-verification [18:49] TR Bot Elon Musk Just Had His Most Humiliating Weekend at Twitter Yet [18:50] AdmFubar https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/04/your-messaging-service-should-not-be-dea-informant [18:50] TR Bot Your Messaging Service Should Not Be a DEA Informant | Electronic Frontier Foundation [18:51] schestowitz EFF has tasteless recommendation [18:51] schestowitz like centralised services [18:51] schestowitz with proprietary software [18:51] schestowitz they also hoard bribes [18:51] schestowitz toi recommend bad things [18:51] schestowitz this isn't barlow's eff [18:51] schestowitz this eff is lolsing money fast [18:51] schestowitz millions per year [18:51] schestowitz see irs.gov [18:53] schestowitz https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/display_990/43091431/05_2021_prefixes_04-06%2F043091431_202006_990_2021052018152795 [18:53] TR Bot ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION INC - Form 990 for period ending Jun 2020 - Nonprofit Explorer - ProPublica [18:53] schestowitz 2020 [18:54] schestowitz lost 3 million dollars [18:55] TR News Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com http://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/2023-04-24-linux-libre-interview-nixsanctuary.en.html [18:55] TR Bot ::[FSFLA]:: Interview about Linux-libre to nixsanctuary.com [18:56] mjg59_ Kind of ignoring the prior years where they had a net income of significantly more than $3 million [18:57] schestowitz still riding the barlow effect [18:57] schestowitz before cohn was getting people to ask funn y questions [18:57] schestowitz eff is infiltrated [18:57] schestowitz mostly by idiots [18:57] schestowitz not all of then [18:57] schestowitz but too many [18:57] schestowitz *them [18:58] schestowitz your buddies [18:58] schestowitz idiots attract other idiots [18:59] schestowitz barlow built something good [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [18:59] schestowitz like splc [18:59] schestowitz and now it's hijacked by other people [18:59] schestowitz for other purposes [18:59] schestowitz and goes down, circling into the drain ● Apr 25 [19:02] TR News Use cash, it's a lot safer in most ways. Better for human rights, too. It can even save your life if mugging attempted. https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23441-over-half-of-finns-worried-about-card-security-yet-card-payments-remain-popular-for-app-purchases.html [19:02] TR Bot reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/23441-over-half-of-finns-worried-about-card-security-yet-card-payments-remain-popular-for-app-purchases.html ) [19:03] TR News It's better to give away all your cash than to give away some "smart" phone, which typically means you lose far more than just the worth of the phone. [19:14] TR News Satire: sounds like a job for Microsoft. Bots that "lie" or spread falsehoods. https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-replaces-tucker-carlson-with-lying-chatbot [19:14] TR Bot Fox Replaces Tucker Carlson with Lying Chatbot | The New Yorker [19:14] AdmFubar https://www.icij.org/investigations/fincen-files/u-s-treasury-faces-a-wave-of-criticism-over-faltering-push-to-unmask-anonymous-companies-and-track-dirty-money/ [19:14] TR Bot U.S. Treasury faces a wave of criticism over faltering push to unmask anonymous companies and track dirty money - ICIJ [19:15] schestowitz AdmFubar: :-0 it's almost like this government is controlled by those companies !! [19:16] AdmFubar whoda thunk! [19:17] TR News https://www.newyorker.com/feed/everything Mon, 24 Apr 2023 14:27:02 +0000 Elon Musk Falls Below Clarence Thomas on List of Worlds Richest People [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:20] TR News Oh. Oops. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/microsoft-msft-to-downsize-office-space-with-redmond-exit [19:21] TR News Oops oops oops. https://www.wsj.com/articles/microsoft-msft-q3-earnings-report-2023-66390b7c [19:21] psydruid Redmond exit -> relocating to Bill's apartment? [19:21] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:25] schestowitz updated http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/office-space-microsoft/ [19:26] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [19:26] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [19:26] schestowitz psydruid: they are too old for this [19:26] psydruid they are not [19:26] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/police-report-bill-gates/ [19:26] TR Bot Mansion of Pedophilia Part II: Dr. Stallman Defamed in the Media One Day After Request Made for King County Sheriffs Office to Divulge Information About Pedophilia in Home of Bill Gates | Techrights [19:26] psydruid they're kids [19:26] psydruid oh that [19:26] psydruid yes [19:27] schestowitz gulagboy is not a kid [19:27] schestowitz he just pretends to be one [19:27] psydruid only underage kids are welcome in Bill's villa [19:27] psydruid so sneaky [19:28] psydruid he wants to be in Bill's place but he isn't let in [19:28] psydruid I feel so sorry for him [19:30] TR News LOL. Israel offering to host PEACE talks while a criminal and war criminal is re-elected instead of arrested. Is this satire or PR stunt? https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/sudan-israel-invite-burhan-hemedti-talks [19:30] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/sudan-israel-invite-burhan-hemedti-talks ) [19:32] TR News Detect a crying baby with tinyML and synthetic data https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/04/24/detect-a-crying-baby-with-tinyml-and-synthetic-data/ [19:32] TR Bot Detect a crying baby with tinyML and synthetic data | Arduino Blog [19:33] schestowitz psydruid: back doors expertise is insufficient [19:33] schestowitz might be required to have a massive CP stash like Rick Allen Jones' [19:33] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/07/29/spd-handover/ [19:33] TR Bot Techrights Now Has All Pages (Nearly 3,000 of Them) About the Famous Police Arrest, an Arrest for Pedophilia by Engineer of Bill Gates, Working at His Home (the Gates Estate Where He Was Busted, Admitted Guilt) | Techrights [19:34] schestowitz https://www.investopedia.com/amazon-q1-fy2023-earnings-preview-7484530 [19:34] TR Bot Amazon Projected to Turn a Profit Despite Slowdown in Cloud Services Revenue [19:34] schestowitz income of 2 billion [19:34] schestowitz monopoly [19:35] schestowitz but income of 2000 million [19:35] schestowitz net loss of 4 billion a year agoi [19:35] schestowitz yes, clown is doing VERY wel [19:35] schestowitz "show me the profits..." [19:35] schestowitz "SOON, WE PROMISE!" [19:36] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/24/funny-dad-moments/ [19:36] TR Bot People Reveal The Most Classic 'Dad Moments' Their Dads Ever Had (24 Tweets) [19:36] TR News Gap Inc to cut hundreds of jobs in another round of layoffs: report https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/1013236/gap-to-cut-hundreds-of-jobs-in-another-round-of-layoffs-report-1013236.html [19:36] TR Bot Gap Inc to cut hundreds of jobs in another round of layoffs: report [19:37] TR News RapidAPI: WE ARE WORTH $1,0000,000,000! YEAH BABY. Oh. Also: https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/rapidapi-valued-at-1-billion-last-year-cuts-staff-by-50/ [19:37] TR Bot valued at $1 billion last year, cuts staff by 50% | TechCrunch [19:38] TR News Microsoft: Oh. Do you wanna hear ALL ABOUT OUR CHATBOTS??? https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-falls-with-fang-stocks-on-deck-transports-under-pressure-as-ups-plummets-9/ [19:38] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/dow-jones-falls-with-fang-stocks-on-deck-transports-under-pressure-as-ups-plummets-9/ ) [19:40] TR News Microsoft is doing SO well that it's selling off 93% of its MAIN office. nasdaq.com/articles/microsoft-msft-to-downsize-office-space-with-redmond-exit [19:41] TR News Cable news in chaos after 3 major departures https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-fox-don-lemon-cnn [19:41] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-fox-don-lemon-cnn ) [19:41] TR News (NEW): Microsoft Crises, Shutdowns, Downtimes, Antitrust Abuses http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Microsoft_Crises_Shutdowns_Downtimes_Antitrust_Abuses.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Microsoft_Crises_Shutdowns_Downtimes_Antitrust_Abuses.gmi [19:41] TR Bot Tux Machines Microsoft Crises, Shutdowns, Downtimes, Antitrust Abuses [19:43] TR News "This changes things permanently": Tucker Carlson firing stuns conservatives https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-firing-conservative-maga-movement [19:43] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.axios.com/2023/04/24/tucker-carlson-firing-conservative-maga-movement ) [19:44] TR News A jury is weighing up Ed Sheerans Thinking Out Loud against Marvin Gayes Lets Get It On https://qz.com/a-jury-is-weighing-up-ed-sheeran-s-thinking-out-loud-1850367744 [19:44] TR Bot A New York jury is considering if Ed Sheeran copied Marvin Gaye [19:45] TR News How many of them are natives/indigenous? https://qz.com/johannesburg-africas-wealthiest-city-1850367718 [19:45] TR Bot Johannesburg is Africa's wealthiest city [19:55] TR News LibrePlanet Talk: Rayner Lucas and Tristan Miller on USENET and How Its Moderated | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/rayner-lucas-and-tristan-miller-in-libreplanet/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/rayner-lucas-and-tristan-miller-in-libreplanet/ [19:55] TR Bot LibrePlanet Talk: Rayner Lucas and Tristan Miller on USENET and How Its Moderated | Techrights [19:57] TR News Microsoft controls (and censors for) the British government https://qz.com/rishi-sunak-took-questions-on-linkedin-and-no-one-menti-1850367679 [19:57] TR Bot Rishi Sunak took LinkedIn questions but not on NHS or inflation ● Apr 25 [20:04] TR News VirtualBox 7 on Fedora 38: A Complete Installation Guide https://linuxiac.com/how-to-install-virtualbox-on-fedora-38/ [20:04] TR Bot VirtualBox 7 on Fedora 38: A Complete Installation Guide [20:05] TR News RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available https://koutoupis.com/2023/04/24/rapiddisk-9-1-0-now-available/ [20:05] TR Bot RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available Random [Tech] Stuff [20:06] TR News Late Night Linux Episode 226 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-226/ [20:06] TR Bot Late Night Linux Episode 226 Late Night Linux [20:06] AdmFubar https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/04/do-not-use-generative-ai-for-health-advice-if-you-value-your-life.html [20:06] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/04/do-not-use-generative-ai-for-health-advice-if-you-value-your-life.html ) [20:06] schestowitz of course [20:08] TR News The issue here is 3CX, not "Linux" https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/lazarus-hackers-linux-malware-linked-to-3cx-supply-chain-attack-177020.html [20:08] TR Bot Lazarus Linux Malware Linked to 3CX Supply-Chain Attack [20:09] TR News Updates to the Auto-refreshing Official CVE Feed https://kubernetes.io/blog/2023/04/25/k8s-cve-feed-beta/ [20:09] TR Bot Updates to the Auto-refreshing Official CVE Feed | Kubernetes [20:10] TR News "Senator at Large for diversity"... making more redundant jobs for "goodfeel"... and PR posturing https://kentwired.com/96862/latest-updates/usg-continues-progress-with-dei-plan/ [20:10] TR Bot USG continues progress with DEI plan Kent Wired [20:11] TR News Open Source is Striving in Latin America, Here is Why! https://medevel.com/open-source-is-striving-in-latin-america-here-is-why/ [20:11] TR Bot Open Source is Striving in Latin America, Here is Why! [20:13] AdmFubar https://www.osnews.com/story/136050/the-weird-world-of-windows-file-paths/ [20:13] TR Bot weird world of Windows file paths OSnews [20:13] TR News Still insanely high level https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/at-6-24-inflation-drops-to-lowest-level-in-18-months/ [20:13] TR Bot At 6.24%, inflation drops to lowest level in 18 months [20:15] TR News "President Lpez Obrador has tested positive for COVID-19 for a third time" https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/amlo-positive-covid-19-says-not-serious/ [20:15] TR Bot AMLO tests positive for COVID-19; says it's 'not serious' [20:15] TR News Blitz Adds Full-stack Engine To Next.js https://medevel.com/blitz-adds-fullstack-for-next-js/ [20:15] TR Bot Blitz Adds Full-stack Engine To Next.js [20:15] TR News 13 Most Used Open-source Free Laravel CMS For Building Scalable Sites In 2023 https://medevel.com/laravel-cms-23/ [20:15] TR Bot 13 Most Used Open-source Free Laravel CMS For Building Scalable Sites In 2023 [20:19] martylake re "Amazon Projected to Turn a Profit": the last paragraph displays the fact that stock price is not correlated anymore to reality: " Amazon shares are up 26% year-to-date, outperforming the broader S&P 500 Consumer Discretionary sector, which has risen 14% over the same period." [20:19] TR News Jonathan Dowland: Separate hledgers https://jmtd.net/log/hledger/separate/ [20:19] TR Bot jmtd log hledger Separate hledgers [20:19] schestowitz martylake: yes, see also: [20:20] schestowitz RapidAPI: WE ARE WORTH $1,0000,000,000! YEAH BABY. Oh. Also: https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/rapidapi-valued-at-1-billion-last-year-cuts-staff-by-50/ [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:20] TR Bot valued at $1 billion last year, cuts staff by 50% | TechCrunch [20:20] schestowitz tesla shares collapsed 10% [20:20] schestowitz they were valued at over a trillion dollars [20:20] schestowitz despite almost never making a profit [20:20] schestowitz twitter is just losing money [20:20] schestowitz musk bought it for $44ml with help from saudi, larry ellison etc. [20:20] schestowitz and got another 14 billion debt with twitter [20:21] schestowitz so the profits, if any, would go towards serving the debt [20:21] schestowitz twitter was just "toxdic asset" [20:23] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Android_Leftovers.3.gmi [20:23] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [20:23] psydruid what do the saudis, larry ellison etc. think of their "investment"? [20:23] TR News (NEW): Debian Project Leader Election 2023, Jonathan Carter re-elected http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Debian_Project_Leader_Election_2023_Jonathan_Carter_re_elected.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Debian_Project_Leader_Election_2023_Jonathan_Carter_re_elected.gmi [20:23] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian Project Leader Election 2023, Jonathan Carter re-elected [20:24] schestowitz psydruid: let's just say if i were musk, i'd be picky which consulate i enter [20:25] schestowitz (also: don't don't go the NUFC's stadium to watch a match) [20:25] martylake twitter is like another press company, a premium PR platform, isnt it? [20:26] schestowitz sometimes like that [20:26] schestowitz to that effect [20:26] schestowitz "key reason Elon Musk said he was getting rid of the legacy Twitter " https://www.techdirt.com/2023/04/24/elon-seems-to-think-the-cruelest-thing-he-can-do-to-people-is-to-pretend-they-want-to-associate-with-him/ | Source: Techdirt [20:26] TR Bot Seems To Think The Cruelest Thing He Can Do To People Is To Pretend They Want To Associate With Him | Techdirt [20:28] TR News Microsoft layoffs https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/25/business/layoffs-2023/index.html [20:28] TR Bot 2023 layoff tracker: The latest on which companies have announced job cuts | CNN Business [20:29] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI KEYWORD STUFFING. No substance. HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/microsoft-msft-q3-2023-earnings-what-to-expect [20:29] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@b7p6tryxn9evi.irc) has joined #techrights [20:30] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:30] TR News Microsoft: we wasted computing resources and wasted money on media bribes to call us market leader... in HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI (that just means useless chatbot) [20:30] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [20:30] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [20:32] TR News Microsoft: we are market leader in a chatbot that tells falsehoods and spews out junk. King of misinformation. We also lose billions of that. LOOK OVA' THERE!! Don't mind mass layoffs. [20:33] TR News Strings To Numbers gemini://thrig.me/blog/2023/04/25/strings-to-numbers.gmi [20:33] AdmFubar martylake: twitter is like another press company, a premium PR platform, isnt it? [20:33] AdmFubar it used to be... not anymore [20:34] TR News Robotics company says HEY HI means robotics. Worthless Microsoft says HEY HI means advanced ELIZABOT. What is HEY HI anyway? Nothing. A worthless buzzword. [20:34] martylake AdmFubar: how come? [20:34] AdmFubar you hadnt noticed?? [20:34] TR News "My capsule currently uses Jetforce, a Python-based Gemini server. I've been quite happy with its versatility and ease of setup, and I think it works well for anyone who wants a no-nonsense hosting solution." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2023/202304/20230425-exposed-capsule-directories.gmi [20:35] AdmFubar they guy who bought it is finding new and creative ways to trash it... [20:35] AdmFubar https://www.propublica.org/article/do-courts-use-roadside-drug-tests-accuracy [20:35] TR Bot Courts Are Beginning to Prevent the Use of Roadside Drug Tests ProPublica [20:35] TR News A rub, or a couple rubs gopher://zaibatsu.circumlunar.space:70/0/~tfurrows/phlog/2023-04-25_aRub.txt [20:36] schestowitz martylake: http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/ [20:36] TR Bot The Linux Foundation is Selling Tweets, Access, Thank Yous and SPAM Services | Techrights [20:36] AdmFubar more on the war to close libraries https://www.propublica.org/article/judy-eledge-alaska-libraries-recordings-dunleavy [20:36] TR Bot Secret Recording of Alaska Library Official Judy Eledge ProPublica [20:37] schestowitz AdmFubar: maybe he can buy libera.chat next [20:38] schestowitz libera.za? libera.kr? [20:38] schestowitz power to the people!~ [20:38] psydruid libera.brics [20:39] AdmFubar maybe he will collect them all... like chia pets... [20:40] TR News "With the IRS Files, Propublica ripped away the veil of performative complexity disguising the scams that the ultra-rich use to amass billions and billions (and billions and billions) of dollars, paying next to no tax, or even no tax at all." https://pluralistic.net/2023/04/24/tax-loss-harvesting/ [20:40] TR Bot Pluralistic: How Goldman Sachss tax-loss harvesting lets the ultra-rich rake in billions tax-free (24 Apr 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [20:40] TR News Public Knowledge Responds to Ninth Circuit of Appeals Epic v. Apple Decision https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-responds-to-epic-v-apple-decision/ [20:40] TR Bot Public Knowledge Responds to Ninth Circuit of Appeals Epic v. Apple Decision - Public Knowledge [20:40] *Noisytoot has quit (Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in) [20:41] martylake schestowitz re selling tweets: well, trademark is hard to defend. anything is business, IP and patent eventually. [20:41] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [20:41] TR News rakudoweekly: 2023.17 ReleasePeriod https://rakudoweekly.blog/2023/04/24/2023-17-releaseperiod/ [20:41] TR Bot 2023.17 ReleasePeriod Rakudo Weekly News [20:42] schestowitz the linux TM is getting associates with rogue activities [20:42] schestowitz monopolies, spying, spam... [20:43] TR News Golang crypto/ecdh and the TPM https://linderud.dev/blog/golang-crypto/ecdh-and-the-tpm/ [20:43] TR Bot Golang crypto/ecdh and the TPM [20:48] TR News Microsoft SVP quits Microsoft https://www.theinformation.com/articles/meta-to-bring-in-microsoft-exec-to-lead-chips-effort-as-it-evaluates-strategy [20:48] TR Bot Meta to Bring In Microsoft Exec to Lead Chips Effort as It Evaluates Strategy The Information [20:48] AdmFubar https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/ai-education-anthropomorphism/ [20:48] TR Bot How anthropomorphism hinders AI education - Raspberry Pi Foundation [20:49] AdmFubar https://www.rawstory.com/celebrities-insist-they-won-t-pay-for-twitter-as-blue-ticks-reappear/ [20:49] TR Bot Celebrities insist they won't pay for Twitter as blue ticks reappear - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism [20:50] TR News Proprietary monoliths perishing, leaving empty offices https://news.theregistryps.com/salesforces-tableau-to-sublease-212000-sqft-in-seattle-and-kirkland/ [20:50] TR Bot Salesforces Tableau to Sublease 212,000 SQFT In Seattle and Kirkland - The Registry [20:51] schestowitz AdmFubar: if they have more than a million "followers" [20:51] schestowitz or whatever the latest musk "whim" is [20:51] schestowitz or PR stunt [20:51] schestowitz "i paid for this" [20:51] schestowitz Stephen King [20:52] TR News Urban sprawl guarenteed the success of online retail https://rubenerd.com/urban-sprawl-and-online-retail/ [20:52] TR Bot Urban sprawl guarenteed the success of online retail [20:55] DaemonFC Musk * 1000 [20:55] DaemonFC The algorithm of Twitter says so. [20:55] DaemonFC Angry that he got upstaged by......Joe Biden. LOL [20:56] DaemonFC This is what algorithms do. They pervert and they distort the reach that a person can manage to get all by themselves. [20:56] DaemonFC Musk owns Twitter and he's very famous, but he lost the ratings to Joe Biden's speech. [20:57] DaemonFC So they changed Twitter to boost Musk's actual reach by a thousand. [20:57] MinceR they'll just start setting ratings manually [20:57] DaemonFC That's what he's doing. [20:57] MinceR oh, they've already started doing that [20:57] MinceR it's what you can expect from a narcissist [20:57] DaemonFC For every 1 person he could have reached before, they multiplied it by a thousand by altering one line of code. [20:57] psydruid how long until we see the implosion of Microsoft on the client side? [20:57] DaemonFC We're seeing it now. [20:58] DaemonFC PC shipments are a disaster. [20:58] DaemonFC But Gartner doesn't count Chromebooks as PCs of course. [20:58] psydruid I would be really worried if I had any desktop infrastructure built on Microsoft [20:58] DaemonFC Chromebooks are up. They're up because they're cheap and they do every important thing Windows laptops can. [20:59] DaemonFC Microsoft has been ripping out all of the "I hate Windows, but this one thing is actually kind of cool." things. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [20:59] DaemonFC They tossed Homegroups completely as of Windows 11. [20:59] DaemonFC So people are not happy about that. [20:59] MinceR gartner publishes what MICROS~1 writes [20:59] DaemonFC I've read about people reverting to Windows 10 just to get it back. But they have a few years and then they're sunk again. [20:59] DaemonFC No more updates. ● Apr 25 [21:02] psydruid the implosion has been going faster in the US, the UK, Canada etc. [21:03] psydruid here in continental Europe people still have to see the light [21:03] schestowitz psydruid: DaemonFC typo check? http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/sfc-sells-thank-yous/ [21:03] TR Bot Software Freedom Conservancy is Selling Verbal Thank-Yous So That Its Chief Can Earn a Quarter Million Dollars Per Year, Tax-Free | Techrights [21:03] DaemonFC schestowitz, When I'm right I'm right. [21:04] DaemonFC In the last two days I've made Mandy's retirement account hundreds of dollars in the bond fund already. [21:04] DaemonFC Things are "normalizing" there while the stock market is listing. [21:05] DaemonFC schestowitz, They were the ones that helped me get Samsung to turn over a source code tarball for my old blu ray player. [21:05] DaemonFC At first Samsung said that they didn't have to comply because the GPL was unenforceable since it was open source. [21:05] DaemonFC This was Samsung in 2009. [21:05] TR News Software Freedom Conservancy is Selling Verbal Thank-Yous So That Its Chief Can Earn a Quarter Million Dollars Per Year, Tax-Free | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/sfc-sells-thank-yous/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/sfc-sells-thank-yous/ [21:06] DaemonFC schestowitz, I sent them a letter explaining that it could be considered a binding contract with me, the user. [21:06] DaemonFC Which is now what the Vizio case is all about. [21:06] DaemonFC It's nice to see someone testing this in court./ [21:07] schestowitz DaemonFC: but this is different [21:07] schestowitz rem,emver sfc sold keynote to msft [21:07] schestowitz for two years ina row [21:07] DaemonFC Yes, organizations get corrupted. [21:07] schestowitz the person who did this then bbecome interim gm for osi [21:07] schestowitz *becamew [21:07] schestowitz deb icaza [21:08] schestowitz she vanished after this [21:08] schestowitz not even mentioned in SeaGL [21:08] schestowitz they underestimated people's memory [21:08] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-why-gm-is-dropping-apple-carplay-164546895.html [21:08] TR Bot Here's why GM is dropping Apple CarPlay [21:09] AdmFubar https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PPIZsDQNYlk&listen=false [21:09] DaemonFC Apple CrApplay is nasty, but GM is hoping it can foist their own subscriptions on you. [21:09] TR Bot Amazon has gone too far - Invidious [21:09] DaemonFC Rent your own car, which you have also bought. [21:09] schestowitz cars used to be for driving [21:09] schestowitz not playing games on touchscreens [21:09] schestowitz you got from a to b [21:09] schestowitz not with $80,000 automobile [21:10] DaemonFC schestowitz, Yeah, I've had a list of "old car" issues with the Buick. [21:10] DaemonFC But it's still been preferable to taking on a $1,000 car loan only to still rent bits and pieces. [21:10] DaemonFC Which the Buick already has. [21:11] DaemonFC https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/25/business/gm-earnings-first-quarter.html [21:11] TR Bot G.M.s Profits Fell 18.5% in the First Quarter - The New York Times [21:11] DaemonFC :) [21:11] schestowitz "how much to enable the toaster in this goddman car?" [21:11] schestowitz *goddman [21:11] DaemonFC Obviously their strategy of only putting any effort into $70,000 SUVs is working fabulously for them. [21:11] schestowitz > *goddamn [21:11] DaemonFC Profit down 18.5%. [21:12] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [21:12] DaemonFC As big as a house and about as aerodynamic as one, with a battery that weighs more than the Buick. It's back! Big is back! The 6000 SUX EV (Hummer EV). [21:12] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:13] DaemonFC Nobody cares how bad it is for the planet as long as it's electric. [21:14] DaemonFC Brawndo! The thirst mutilator! It's got what plants want! Electrolytes! [21:14] DaemonFC "G.M. said its net income in the first three months of the year fell to $2.4 billion, from $2.9 billion in the first quarter of 2022. Revenue in the first quarter rose 11 percent, to $40 billion." [21:15] DaemonFC It doesn't matter if you profit as long as gross revenue goes up. [21:15] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techrights [21:15] TR News Social control media a fad _YET_? https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/24/on-thecube-pod-elon-musks-very-bad-week-and-the-ban-on-tiktok-in-montana-thecubepod/ [21:15] TR Bot theCUBE Pod: Elon Musks very bad week and the ban on TikTok in Montana - SiliconANGLE [21:15] DaemonFC mjg59_ works for an employer like this. [21:15] DaemonFC New GM works this way now. [21:15] DaemonFC "In 2021, G.M. recalled all the Bolts made to that point to replace their battery packs after it found that a manufacturing defect had caused fires in a small number of them. After halting production to address the problem, the company resumed Bolt sales in 2022." [21:15] DaemonFC So it occasionally bursts into flames, killing everyone in the car, but you get a tax incentive. [21:15] DaemonFC :D [21:16] DaemonFC schestowitz, Do it for the incentive. [21:16] DaemonFC You need an incentive to do it. [21:16] DaemonFC mjg59_ needs incentives to do it. [21:16] DaemonFC With the vampire slayer. [21:17] *techrights-news has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:17] MinceR 25 221119 < schestowitz> "how much to enable the toaster in this goddman car?" [21:17] MinceR i think that turns on automatically when the engine sets itself on fire [21:18] *techrights-news (~techrights-news@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techrights [21:18] MinceR at least that's how german alleged cars do it [21:18] MinceR \_()_/ [21:18] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/microsoft-q3-earnings-despite-cloud-struggles-tech-giant-beat-on-revenue-and-eps-200655635.html [21:18] TR Bot Microsoft Q3 earnings: Despite cloud struggles tech giant beat on revenue and EPS [21:18] DaemonFC schestowitz, Only revenue matters. [21:18] DaemonFC Not the struggles to obtain profit. [21:18] DaemonFC :D [21:19] psydruid schestowitz, this has been going on all over markets [21:19] DaemonFC If you throw $10 billion at something and make a net profit of $1 billion that's bad. If you throw $100 billion at something and take a net loss of $50 billion, that's good. More revenue is good. Always good. It's all about revenue. [21:19] TR News Those are not "serverless"; quit using such misleading buzzwords https://siliconangle.com/2023/04/24/amazon-updates-threat-detection-capabilities-containers-databases-serverless-apps/ [21:19] psydruid upselling gimmicks has become the main way to extract more money out of people [21:19] TR Bot updates threat detection capabilities for containers, databases and serverless apps - SiliconANGLE [21:19] AdmFubar https://www.rawstory.com/spacex-rocket-launch/ [21:19] TR Bot Giant SpaceX rocket leaves crater, serious damage at Texas base - Raw Story - Celebrating 19 Years of Independent Journalism [21:19] psydruid also in the x86 PC market [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:20] psydruid or crApple [21:20] DaemonFC schestowitz, After hours, Microsoft is up, but this is because or "roboadvisors". [21:21] psydruid and then you get clowns like gulagboys and minecraft professionals fawning all over them [21:21] schestowitz HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [21:21] DaemonFC It's a phenomenon where you just have "AI" reading "the news" and if it sounds right, throw people's money at it. [21:21] schestowitz and "then news" is up for sale [21:21] DaemonFC schestowitz, I'm considering investing in some "real assets". [21:21] schestowitz so you bribe some outlets [21:21] schestowitz and they game the robots for you [21:21] DaemonFC Restaurants might still have some value. [21:21] schestowitz crime at several levels [21:21] schestowitz but white-collar, so "OK" :)) [21:22] DaemonFC They got beaten down pretty bad during COVID so there's some room for a comeback at some, if they're managed tightly. [21:22] DaemonFC Bed Bath & Beyond will be good for Walmart. [21:22] DaemonFC Very good. [21:22] DaemonFC I expect to see a sizable redistribution of BB&B's merchandise categories going to Walmart. [21:23] DaemonFC Total economic activity may go down, but Walmart will get the remainder. [21:24] TR News How to install Red Hat OpenShift Local on your laptop https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/install-openshift-local [21:24] TR Bot How to install Red Hat OpenShift Local on your laptop | Enable Sysadmin [21:25] TR News How to debug OpenShift operators on a live cluster using dlv https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/04/24/how-debug-openshift-operators-live-cluster-using-dlv [21:25] TR Bot How to debug OpenShift operators on a live cluster using dlv | Red Hat Developer [21:25] TR News Optimize container images for NGINX and Apache HTTPd https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/04/25/optimize-container-images-nginx-and-apache-httpd [21:25] TR Bot Optimize container images for NGINX and Apache HTTPd | Red Hat Developer [21:27] TR News Canonical markets Ubuntu to Micrtosofters https://petri.com/ubuntu-23-04-azure-active-directory/ [21:27] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://petri.com/ubuntu-23-04-azure-active-directory/ ) [21:27] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r-deEBuj4E [21:27] TR Bot https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=1r-deEBuj4E [21:28] TR Bot timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=1r-deEBuj4E ) [21:30] TR News How to Customize Ubuntu 23.04 to Look Like macOS https://www.makeuseof.com/customize-ubuntu-23-04-to-look-like-macos/ [21:30] TR Bot How to Customize Ubuntu 23.04 to Look Like macOS [21:30] DaemonFC I need to clean the fridge more often. [21:30] DaemonFC Mandy is in there trying to cook browned bacon that's been open in the fridge for 3 weeks. [21:30] DaemonFC He keeps trying to make us sick with food that's turned. [21:30] TR News (NEW): Red Hat Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi [21:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Red Hat Leftovers [21:31] TR News Installing and Using Yarn on Ubuntu https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/installing-and-using-yarn-ubuntu [21:31] TR Bot Installing and Using Yarn on Ubuntu | Linux Journal [21:31] AdmFubar https://www.salon.com/2023/04/25/twitter-blue-celebrity-mess-elon-musk/ [21:31] TR Bot a sad, muddled place this has become": The madness of Twitter's blue checkpocalypse | Salon.com [21:32] TR News Mozilla confirms memory leak in Firefox https://www.ghacks.net/2023/04/24/mozilla-confirms-memory-leak-in-firefox/ only one?? [21:32] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/04/24/mozilla-confirms-memory-leak-in-firefox/ ) [21:33] TR News Ros 2 robotics software now on iWave single-board computers running Ubuntu 20.04 https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/products/software-products/ros-2-robotics-software-now-on-iwave-single-board-computers-running-ubuntu-20-04-2023-04/ [21:33] TR Bot Ros 2 robotics software now on iWave single-board computers running Ubuntu 20.04 [21:34] TR News How to install XFCE GUI on AWS Ubuntu EC2 Instance https://linux.how2shout.com/how-to-install-xfce-gui-on-aws-ubuntu-ec2-instance/ [21:34] TR Bot How to install XFCE GUI on AWS Ubuntu EC2 Instance [21:34] TR News Redis Made Easy: A Step-by-Step Guide to Installing Redis on AlmaLinux 9 https://www.howtoforge.com/redis-made-easy-a-step-by-step-guide-to-installing-on-almalinux-9/ [21:34] TR Bot Redis Made Easy: A Step-by-Step Guide to Installing Redis on AlmaLinux 9 [21:34] martylake DaemonFC: is investirg in houses still an option? might be the most conservative one, but not so lucrative. [21:34] TR News How to Install Cacti on Rocky Linux https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-cacti-on-rocky-linux/ [21:34] TR Bot How to Install Cacti on Rocky Linux [21:36] TR News (NEW): Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/20/Ubuntu_23_04_Lunar_Lobster_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_I.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/20/Ubuntu_23_04_Lunar_Lobster_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_I.gmi [21:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Ubuntu 23.04 Lunar Lobster Is Now Available for Download, This Is Whats New [21:36] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi [21:36] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [21:36] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [21:36] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [21:37] schestowitz martylake: you can only live in one house [21:37] schestowitz (at a time) [21:39] psydruid we can introduce the Heisenhaus to solve that problem [21:40] schestowitz tenants are a risk [21:40] DaemonFC DaemonFC: is investirg in houses still an option? might be the most conservative one, but not so lucrative. [21:40] schestowitz they might not pay [21:40] schestowitz maybe unable to pay [21:40] schestowitz can ruin the place [21:40] schestowitz the place ruins itself [21:40] DaemonFC Investing in the debt of the home "owner" while you're renting. [21:40] schestowitz needs maintenance [21:40] DaemonFC Based. [21:40] schestowitz and rent might be not much higher than what banks now give in interest [21:40] schestowitz andf you end up spending lots of time [21:40] schestowitz chasing payments, fixing etc. [21:41] DaemonFC If you have to plonk down $400,000 to get a house that [21:41] DaemonFC *that's not a total piece of shit. [21:41] DaemonFC And there's all these hidden fees that aren't just interest, thousands of dollars of fees. [21:41] DaemonFC Some get figured into the interest because you're financing the fees too. [21:42] DaemonFC It's like doing to a car dealer and they won't just tell you what the real price of the car is. [21:42] DaemonFC Sign these papers. Monthly payment. [21:42] TR News Based on Papermag, the 'Linux' Foundations continues to allow the Linux brand to be abused by mentally ill persons [21:43] DaemonFC I've noticed that the analysts encourage people to buy high and sell low. [21:44] DaemonFC Stocks. [21:44] schestowitz wow, the micrtosoft shills already at it [21:44] schestowitz https://www.geekwire.com/2023/microsoft-stock-rises-4-as-tech-giant-beats-expectations-with-52-9b-in-q3-revenue/ [21:44] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.geekwire.com/2023/microsoft-stock-rises-4-as-tech-giant-beats-expectations-with-52-9b-in-q3-revenue/ ) [21:44] schestowitz faking it [21:44] schestowitz fake fake fake [21:44] schestowitz vapourware [21:45] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-republic-stock-plummets-49-after-revealing-deposit-exodus-in-march-133338066.html [21:45] TR Bot First Republic stock plummets after revealing deposit exodus in March [21:45] schestowitz pure spin [21:45] schestowitz microsoft site [21:45] schestowitz "The PC shipment slowdown is not helping the Redmond, Wash. tech giant, which reported a 28% decrease in Windows OEM revenue (from PC manufacturers paying Microsoft to put Windows on their devices) and a 30% decrease in Devices, which includes Surface tablets and computers. Xbox hardware revenue declined 30%. " [21:45] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/video/first-republic-bank-liquidity-standpoint-132459653.html [21:45] TR Bot First Republic Bank: From a liquidity standpoint, they are just fine, analyst says [21:46] psydruid revenue up so much that the main campus in redmond has to be vacated [21:46] DaemonFC schestowitz, I believe I said months ago that their XBOX division was doing poorly. [21:46] schestowitz yeah [21:46] psydruid these are Enron levels of deception [21:46] DaemonFC Based on PornHub data. [21:47] psydruid but no one in the corrupt US government cares anymore [21:47] schestowitz revenue up based on... something [21:47] psydruid a feeling [21:47] psydruid of bribes [21:47] schestowitz derivatives [21:47] schestowitz buying one's own shares? [21:47] schestowitz revenue [21:47] schestowitz not profit [21:47] schestowitz anyway... [21:47] psydruid I don't think anyone knows what's going on there anymore [21:47] psydruid except for microsoft insiders [21:48] psydruid who can expose the guts of the company and lay them bare for everyone to see [21:48] DaemonFC schestowitz, The downside to Microsoft is that three letters betray how XBOX is doing. [21:48] DaemonFC Edg [21:48] MinceR edging? [21:49] DaemonFC Because the browser on the XBOX is Edge and it adds that to the UA string, so PornHub knows if you're not just another "Chrome" user. [21:49] DaemonFC They post their statistics at least once every year. [21:50] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/alphabet-first-quarter-earnings-top-estimates-announces-70b-stock-buyback-200904755.html [21:50] TR Bot Alphabet earnings: First quarter results top estimates [21:51] DaemonFC schestowitz, Google announces $70 billion share buyback. [21:51] DaemonFC Alphabet (GOOG, GOOGL) reported first quarter earnings on Tuesday that beat expectations on the top- and bottom-lines, while also authorizing a massive $70 billion stock buyback. Alphabet stock rose as much as 5% in after hours trading on the news. [21:51] DaemonFC The Share Buyback Tax means the government theoretically makes $700 million dollars on this. [21:54] schestowitz it shows "the market" has no grip on reality [21:54] schestowitz it's a bubble fantasy land [21:55] schestowitz DaemonFC: guess who is left with the bill at the end? [21:55] schestowitz see inflation, unemployment [21:55] schestowitz (yes, the gov. lies about that one) [21:55] schestowitz of course the "job creators" are the ones causing this [21:56] schestowitz the "philanthropists" [21:56] schestowitz the golobe trotters https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html [21:56] TR Bot Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times [21:56] schestowitz *globe [21:56] schestowitz bill gates, the blow job creator [21:57] psydruid so the media are collaborators in a giant deception scheme [21:57] schestowitz hey, kid, wanna pay your BILL? [21:57] psydruid so much for them [21:57] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mandy just got me going again. [21:58] DaemonFC I told him "You want a $300 pair of shoes when there's nothing wrong with the dozen pair you already have and you dare yell at me about $2 of electric for my air purifiers!?" [21:58] DaemonFC I finally got him to back off. [21:58] TR News Josef Strzibny: Reflections on my 24h startup challenge https://nts.strzibny.name/24h-startup-challenge/ [21:58] TR Bot Reflections on my 24h startup challenge [21:59] schestowitz DaemonFC: maybe tyhe ads on his skinnerbox [21:59] schestowitz aka "smart" phone [21:59] schestowitz which dumbs him down [21:59] DaemonFC Why do you think I have the bank cards? [21:59] schestowitz with or without radition, that thing rots the brain [21:59] DaemonFC Jesus Fuck [21:59] TR News WP Briefing: Episode 54: A Bill of Rights for the Open Web https://wordpress.org/news/2023/04/episode-54-open-webs-bill-of-rights/ [21:59] TR Bot Episode 54: A Bill of Rights for the Open Web WordPress News ● Apr 25 [22:00] schestowitz implusive buying [22:00] DaemonFC I told him if we have $300 we're putting it into bonds. [22:00] schestowitz my name is bonds [22:00] schestowitz james bonds [22:00] MinceR my name is bonds [22:00] MinceR covalent bonds [22:01] DaemonFC I try to explain to him that when you save money it generates more money. [22:01] schestowitz yo dawg, i herd you want to bondle with ma bonds [22:01] DaemonFC He says "You're wasting my money on those bonds and CDs!" [22:01] schestowitz ha [22:02] schestowitz you can't wear CDs, ryan! [22:02] DaemonFC You can pull a bond with interest and buy shoes later with the proceeds, when the shoes you have are worn out. [22:02] DaemonFC And you will have another twenty dollars in interest by the time you've worn out your current pair. [22:03] schestowitz who spends that much on a pair of shoes? hanmg on a second [22:03] schestowitz you married marisol [22:03] DaemonFC Yeah, if you let him near the money we're fucked. [22:03] DaemonFC He spends it on iPhone games, shoes, and airpods. [22:04] schestowitz "i'll be homeless, but with a nice shoe rack!" [22:04] schestowitz does a shoe rack fit in an old buick? [22:05] schestowitz a: "take a photo of me with thos "designers" shoes next to that expensive car I don't own [22:05] schestowitz versus [22:05] schestowitz b: "take a photo of me next to that house I don't have" [22:05] schestowitz "my friends will LIIIIIKE" [22:07] TR News Is the Government Tracking Your Social CONTROL Media Activity? https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/is-the-government-tracking-your-social-media-activity [22:07] TR Bot Is the Government Tracking Your Social Media Activity? | ACLU [22:07] TR News How to install CyberPanel on Ubuntu 22.04 / 20.04 https://unixcop.com/how-to-install-cyberpanel-ubuntu/ [22:07] TR Bot How to install CyberPanel on Ubuntu 22.04 / 20.04 - Unix / Linux the admins Tutorials [22:08] TR News Audacity 3.3 Released with More Real Time Effects https://www.omglinux.com/audacity-3-3-released/ [22:08] TR Bot Audacity 3.3 Released with More Real Time Effects - OMG! Linux [22:08] DaemonFC schestowitz, The iPhone is the only thing he ever pays any attention to. It's the modern boob tube. [22:08] DaemonFC You know how people used to veg out on the couch in front of the TV. [22:08] TR News Destination Linux 320: The Chumby on Jills Treasure Hunt! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/destination-linux/dl-320/ [22:08] TR Bot The Chumby on Jill's Treasure Hunt! - Destination Linux - TuxDigital [22:09] DaemonFC Watching commercials about hearing aids and Fox News? [22:09] DaemonFC Slowly dying. [22:09] psydruid it's interesting how growing up in poverty makes people crave all kinds of things [22:09] DaemonFC The iPhone is like that for younger people. [22:09] schestowitz psydruid: very shiity things [22:09] schestowitz *tty [22:09] psydruid whereas those who grew up in relative wealth don't have that craving [22:09] schestowitz DaemonFC: under the blanket [22:09] schestowitz near a pillow [22:09] psydruid it's like self-sabotage [22:09] schestowitz the legs unusede [22:09] schestowitz they might as well fall off [22:10] schestowitz they won't even notice :/ [22:10] schestowitz psydruid: yes, over-compensating [22:10] schestowitz sometimes people whio gre up poor want to collect money [22:10] schestowitz to "be rich" [22:10] schestowitz unlike people around them [22:11] schestowitz that sort of does not exist when everyone around you is well off already [22:11] schestowitz you would impress nobody anyway [22:12] TR News Bash Examples for Press any key to continue https://tecadmin.net/bash-press-any-key-to-continue/ [22:12] TR Bot Bash Examples for "Press any key to continue..." TecAdmin [22:12] DaemonFC The only reason he's not getting bedsores is because he works at Walmart. [22:12] DaemonFC This is sad. [22:13] DaemonFC If I want to stop him from jumping in bed with the phone I have to catch him off guard when I pick him up and say "We're going somewhere." [22:13] schestowitz psydruid: they also witness that money does not buy happiness [22:13] schestowitz poverty is unhappiness [22:13] schestowitz but abject poverty [22:13] schestowitz like food insecurity-level poverty [22:13] schestowitz starvation is pain [22:14] schestowitz DaemonFC: tell him he can but shoes when they are edible [22:14] schestowitz and he can show you he eats them [22:15] DaemonFC I put an end to the Apple Apple Apple very fast. [22:15] schestowitz either that or you become a stickfigure like gullagboy [22:15] DaemonFC They got about $100 from us while I going bankrupt. [22:15] DaemonFC So he could imaginary things in his games. [22:16] schestowitz iMF [22:16] DaemonFC If I hadn't caught it when I did, he would have gotten us in trouble with the bank too. [22:16] TR News (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and WordPress http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Audiocasts_Shows_Destination_Linux_Late_Night_Linux_and_WordPre.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Audiocasts_Shows_Destination_Linux_Late_Night_Linux_and_WordPre.gmi [22:17] TR Bot Tux Machines Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux, Late Night Linux, and WordPress [22:17] DaemonFC He's one of those people who if he has $5 he won't two minutes later. He'll go buy garbage in the clearance aisle that we don't even have a use for. [22:17] DaemonFC And toss it in the mound of trash over by the bed. [22:17] DaemonFC And scream and throw things all over the bedroom if it's missing. [22:17] DaemonFC Even though it's not useful. [22:17] schestowitz food can be useful [22:18] schestowitz you can also give some away [22:18] schestowitz all people eat [22:19] DaemonFC schestowitz, I told mom quit giving Mandy money. [22:19] DaemonFC Put it in her retirement account. Not the big shit pile next to my bed. [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:20] TR News Who should lead us? https://drewdevault.com/2023/04/24/2023-04-24-Who-leads-us.html [22:20] TR Bot Who should lead us? [22:20] DaemonFC I told her this is like Dave spending money on ebay and then having boxes of chains showing up at the house. [22:22] DaemonFC I told her if he asks for something to please say "Gee I'd like to, but I have some unexpected bills and things are tight right now." [22:22] schestowitz Put it in her retirement account. Not the big shit pile next to my bed. [22:22] schestowitz that's her mom [22:22] DaemonFC Oh it gets better. [22:22] schestowitz undeer the bed [22:23] DaemonFC They had to throw 90% of Grandma's shit in the garbage when she went to the home and rent a storage unit for the rest. [22:23] DaemonFC They cycle out what she should be wearing by the season. [22:23] DaemonFC Grandma left her kids with nothing so that she could buy thousands of outfits at Macy's for herself. [22:23] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://dwaves.de/2023/04/24/when-computers-learned-to-lie-a-ai-driven-automatic-labeling-machine-nvidia-video-generator-demo/ [22:23] TR Bot when computers learned to lie a AI driven automatic labeling machine NVIDIA Video generator demo | dwaves.de [22:24] DaemonFC schestowitz, This is why you find nice things at thrift shops sometimes. [22:24] DaemonFC Things that still have tags. [22:24] schestowitz MSDE IN CHINA [22:24] DaemonFC It's a dollar at Goodwill and it says $100 at "the store". [22:25] DaemonFC schestowitz, Mandy's name is on the CDs. [22:25] DaemonFC But I don't think he would know how to get them. [22:25] DaemonFC So basically it's an investment in both our names, but only I know how to redeem the investment. [22:25] DaemonFC And if I don't do this, we may not be able to buy food, pay rent, and make the medical bills. [22:25] DaemonFC Because "Apple Apple Apple" on the statement. [22:26] DaemonFC schestowitz, Every two weeks when he gets paid, I move it over to another bank and buy a CD. [22:27] TR News (NEW): RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/RapidDisk_9_1_0_now_available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/RapidDisk_9_1_0_now_available.gmi [22:27] TR Bot Tux Machines RapidDisk 9.1.0 now available [22:27] DaemonFC Every month when I get paid, to the other bank. [22:27] DaemonFC I only keep a few hundred in our other account. [22:27] DaemonFC And I have it set up so that it can't overdraft. [22:27] DaemonFC That's a safeguard against him figuring out how to get back in and pay iPhone games again. [22:28] DaemonFC The very worst damage he can do is the few hundred bucks I keep in that account. [22:28] DaemonFC This is horrible. [22:28] DaemonFC I also blacklisted Apple from our card accounts so that any payments to them will be rejected immediately. [22:28] schestowitz that's a premium [22:29] schestowitz on having kids [22:29] DaemonFC And turned off the ability to buy things and bill our phone bill. [22:29] schestowitz or marrying "kids" [22:29] DaemonFC Then he gets resentful and hateful. [22:29] DaemonFC Because he wants ANOTHER pair of shoes. [22:29] DaemonFC Even though he has a pair for every day of the month already. [22:29] schestowitz marisol [22:29] DaemonFC And someone has to be the grown up and say NO [22:29] schestowitz it's contagious :-) [22:30] DaemonFC Then it's "Leechey-ka Leechey-ka! I'm going to ask mom!" [22:30] DaemonFC I said, "ASK MOM! MOM'S BROKE!" [22:30] schestowitz mommy, just killed a man [22:32] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi [22:32] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [22:36] TR News Links 25/04/2023: RapidDisk 9.1.0 and Microsoft Revenue Down in Many Areas | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/microsoft-revenue-down-in-many-areas/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/microsoft-revenue-down-in-many-areas/ [22:36] TR Bot Links 25/04/2023: RapidDisk 9.1.0 and Microsoft Revenue Down in Many Areas | Techrights [22:37] TR News (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/04/25/leftovers.gmi [22:37] TR Bot Tux Machines today's leftovers [22:43] TR News Corporate Layoff: 3M Announces Mass Cutback of Workforce Amidst Downtrend in Manufacturing https://insidebitcoins.com/news/corporate-layoff-3m-announces-mass-cutback-of-workforce-amidst-downtrend-in-manufacturing [22:43] TR Bot Corporate Layoff: 3M Announces Mass Cutback of Workforce Amidst Downtrend in Manufacturing [22:43] TR News "More than 183,000 global technology-sector employees have been laid off since the beginning of 2023" https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20230425498/meta-in-the-layoffs-spotlight-ahead-of-first-quarter-results [22:43] TR Bot in the layoffs spotlight ahead of first-quarter results | Morningstar [22:47] TR News Security updates for Tuesday [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/930128/ Source: LWN | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//lwn.net/Articles/930128/ [22:47] TR Bot updates for Tuesday [LWN.net] [22:48] TR News GCC 13 and the state of gccrs https://rust-gcc.github.io/2023/04/24/gccrs-and-gcc13-release.html [22:48] TR Bot GCC 13 and the state of gccrs | GCC Front-End For Rust [22:49] TR News Git v2.40.1 and friends https://lwn.net/ml/git/xmqqa5yv3n93.fsf@gitster.g/ [22:49] TR Bot Git v2.40.1 and friends [LWN.net] [22:50] TR News Former Methodist employees plead guilty to HIPAA violations https://www.databreaches.net/former-methodist-employees-plead-guilty-to-hipaa-violations/ [22:50] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.databreaches.net/former-methodist-employees-plead-guilty-to-hipaa-violations/ ) [22:51] TR News CA: Elk Grove Unified School District investigating after employees report issues filing taxes https://www.kcra.com/article/elk-grove-unified-employee-tax-filing-issues/43690931# [22:51] TR Bot Elk Grove Unified: Employees report issues filing taxes [22:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, Can't have a downturn in the retirement plan if there's no retirement plan. -Mom [22:53] *DaemonFC points to head [22:53] schestowitz lol [22:53] DaemonFC That's usin' your noodle. [22:53] schestowitz john salinas [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [22:59] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Apr 25 [23:01] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@7szp5rqe2tdw8.irc) has joined #techrights [23:01] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/why-first-republic-bank-in-trouble-mortgages-backfired-rising-rates-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T [23:01] TR Bot How First Republic Bank's Strategy of Low-Rate Mortgages Backfired [23:01] DaemonFC "First Republic handed out billions in ultra-low-rate mortgages to the wealthy. It backfired horribly." [23:02] DaemonFC "The bank said Monday that it will cut as much as 25% of staff, and is pursuing strategic options after revealing that deposits plunged by more than $100 billion in the first three months of the year. [23:02] DaemonFC That sent the stock as much as 48% lower on the day, with First Republic now down 93% for the year to date. Gillian Tan and Matthew Monks at Bloomberg subsequently reported that the bank is exploring an asset sale in the range of $50 billion to $100 billion." [23:03] *DaemonFC giggles in a high pitch [23:03] DaemonFC First Republic is going under and they're probably going to take the $30 billion from Chase with them. [23:04] DaemonFC "One of the causes of First Republic's troubles is a strategy to woo rich clients with huge mortgages that offer sweet terms, as detailed in this story from Noah Buhayar, Jennifer Surane, Max Reyes, and Ann Choi at Bloomberg. [23:04] DaemonFC In particular, First Republic would offer interest-only mortgages, where the borrower didn't have to pay back any principal for the first decade of the loan. In 2020 and 2021, it extended close to $20 billion of these loans in San Francisco, Los Angeles, and New York alone, per Bloomberg's analysis." [23:06] DaemonFC "The quality of these loans isn't in question, as the borrowers are extremely safe bets." [23:07] DaemonFC Very safe bets, works in "tech", tech having severe layoffs. [23:07] DaemonFC Very safe bets. [23:08] DaemonFC How do you write loans to tech workers who don't have jobs and some of whom are facing deportation where you can't even sue them? [23:08] DaemonFC Then say it's "very safe"? [23:08] schestowitz got draft [23:08] schestowitz wanna check? [23:08] DaemonFC Sure. [23:08] schestowitz putin: hey, KID! [23:08] schestowitz wanna try a DRAFT? [23:08] DaemonFC XRevan86, Too soon? [23:09] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/distress-among-epo-examiners/ [23:09] TR Bot Corrupt Administration at the European Patent Office is Causing a Mental Health Crisis | Techrights [23:09] DaemonFC "Wealthy clients can easily move their deposits away from First Republic while keeping their mortgage with the firm, which creates a liquidity challenge. [23:09] DaemonFC And these loans are hard to sell to other lenders, given Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are limited to only purchasing mortgages up to just over $1 million. Should they successfully sell, it would also create a hole in First Republic's balance sheet. The bank would be forced to recognize the current value of these loans, and what are currently unrealized losses could suddenly wipe out the bank's capital." [23:09] DaemonFC This is a disaster. [23:10] schestowitz HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI [23:10] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Pfft. [23:10] schestowitz problem solved [23:10] DaemonFC firstrepublic dot ai [23:10] schestowitz "here, have a chaffbot" [23:10] DaemonFC mjg59_, So GULAG.... [23:10] DaemonFC Who has your mortgage? [23:10] schestowitz banks: just use the app [23:10] schestowitz no more service [23:10] schestowitz no branches [23:11] schestowitz app-only [23:11] schestowitz crrapp [23:11] DaemonFC firstrepublic dot app [23:11] schestowitz throw employees under boss [23:11] schestowitz save some money [23:11] schestowitz for now [23:11] schestowitz next: throw clients under bug [23:11] schestowitz foreclose [23:11] DaemonFC Well, tossing loan officers is an easy call. [23:11] schestowitz *bus [23:11] DaemonFC They're not going to be writing more loans with no assets. [23:12] schestowitz DaemonFC: see draft [23:12] DaemonFC "controversial practice of granting being the subject of recent leaks." [23:12] DaemonFC Link doesn't cover the s [23:14] DaemonFC "In this open letter, theyve told colleagues" [23:14] DaemonFC sent to colleagues would sound better [23:15] DaemonFC Is it just me or did triscuits get saltier? [23:16] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AGG?p=AGG&.tsrc=fin-srch [23:16] TR Bot iShares Core U.S. Aggregate Bond ETF (AGG) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance [23:16] DaemonFC schestowitz, It's a bit early to declare victory, but AGG is moving on up pretty nicely as S&P 500 sags. [23:16] DaemonFC I wrote about selling Mandy's S&P shares and buying AGG shares on Friday I think. [23:17] DaemonFC We've already realized a few hundred bucks in appreciation. [23:17] DaemonFC At least things are finally looking up after the stocks have been so bleh under Joe Biden. [23:17] schestowitz biden is running [23:17] schestowitz at 1 mph [23:17] TR News Corrupt Administration at the European Patent Office is Causing a Mental Health Crisis | Techrights http://techrights.org/2023/04/25/distress-among-epo-examiners/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/04/25/distress-among-epo-examiners/ [23:17] TR Bot Corrupt Administration at the European Patent Office is Causing a Mental Health Crisis | Techrights [23:18] DaemonFC Between tech and finance, and fintech, this earnings season is fucked. [23:18] psydruid > banks: just use the app [23:18] psydruid > app-only [23:18] psydruid I still have this device so I can do online banking without a crapp. My mom's device broke and she was told she needed to use her "smartphone". So I can believe that you actually need a "smartphone" for online banking now. [23:18] DaemonFC And next one will probably be a lot worse. [23:18] schestowitz psydruid: "need" [23:19] schestowitz there are fallbacks [23:19] schestowitz they hide these [23:19] schestowitz because it "costs themn" [23:19] schestowitz they hand over the jobs to the cusatomers [23:19] psydruid they still provide those devices to "business customer" [23:19] psydruid because those are "rich" and normal people are "poor" [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-24.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-04-25.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:20] psydruid it's disgusting [23:20] psydruid customers* [23:21] schestowitz they don't want to be banks [23:21] schestowitz just some registered name [23:21] schestowitz and customers "do their thing" [23:21] schestowitz on "app" [23:21] schestowitz and still risk losing all the money [23:21] schestowitz because the "app" gave too many "toxic" loanss [23:22] schestowitz and you cannot afford a bank account in bermuda or something [23:22] schestowitz like creepy bill [23:22] schestowitz so the deck is stacked against you [23:22] schestowitz and you don't get 10% interest a year [23:22] psydruid I also see ads for betting and cryptocurrency sites on national tv now [23:23] schestowitz it's legal [23:23] schestowitz because it robs poor people [23:23] psydruid these societies are doomed [23:23] schestowitz not rich people [23:23] schestowitz rich people don't bet on football teams [23:23] schestowitz they buy the teams [23:23] schestowitz ask newcastle [23:23] schestowitz their football club is not just "foreign asset [23:24] psydruid you start wondering who is the crazy one now [23:24] schestowitz *now [23:24] psydruid "you" for being who you have always been [23:24] schestowitz my close friend lost all his savings [23:24] schestowitz in a "Crypto" site [23:24] schestowitz they money was "lost" [23:24] schestowitz gn [23:24] psydruid or "they" for changing all the rules and values practically overnight [23:32] DaemonFC schestowitz, The upside to this is you get paid interest. [23:33] DaemonFC If you go to a bank with a lot of branches, ask them what their interest rate is. [23:33] DaemonFC 0.03%? [23:33] DaemonFC It's not gonna be 4%. [23:34] DaemonFC https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-predict-stock-market-moves-185307674.html [23:34] TR Bot ChatGPT Can Predict Stock Market Moves? New Study Shows ChatGPT Surprisingly Accurate in Predicting Stock Moves And Could Even Replace Investment Analysts [23:34] DaemonFC LOL [23:38] DaemonFC schestowitz, It wouldn't surprise me if the FDIC is having a meeting right now about seizing First Republic Bank on Friday. [23:39] DaemonFC If things are so bad it can't wait, they could do it sooner. [23:43] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:45] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/software-engineer-coding-jobs-face-layoffs-this-year-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T [23:45] TR Bot Layoffs Are Here for Those Who Chose to 'Learn to Code' [23:47] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/how-delivery-driver-gets-big-tips-declines-orders-wealthy-areas-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T [23:47] TR Bot How Delivery Driver Gets Tips: Declines Orders, Waits in Wealthy Areas [23:50] DaemonFC "I'm not doing this to gamble. I'm doing this to make money," he said. "So I'm not really interested in playing the game of, 'Oh, maybe I'll do this person's delivery for a guaranteed $2.50. Maybe it might be more.' I don't play that game. And most people don't like to play that game. That's what results and their order's not getting picked up, or it takes awhile for them to get their food." [23:50] DaemonFC :) [23:50] DaemonFC GULAG's Pizza [23:50] psydruid Dr Pizza [23:50] DaemonFC Just the tip. [23:51] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/sf-target-store-locking-up-shelves-to-deter-shoplifters-2023-4?international=true&r=US&IR=T [23:51] TR Bot SF Target Store Locking up Full Aisles of Shelves to Deter Shoplifters [23:51] DaemonFC Dealing with doing business in Matt GULAG's city. [23:52] DaemonFC Lock up your toothpaste. [23:52] DaemonFC Lock up your deodorant. [23:52] DaemonFC Lock up your sons and daughters. [23:52] DaemonFC :) [23:53] DaemonFC Things are starting to get that bad here. [23:53] DaemonFC The Walgreens started to lock up tings like toothpaste. [23:53] DaemonFC schestowitz, ^ [23:53] DaemonFC Walmart hasn't, yet. [23:55] DaemonFC They lose so much to looters thanks to those laws that Matt GULAG and Buffy and all their friends voted for, that they have to throw the fuckin' toothpaste behind a locked door and you have to get an employee to grab some for you. [23:55] DaemonFC Because that is now cheaper than tolerating all of the theft. [23:57] DaemonFC schestowitz, Eggs got so expensive earlier this year that Walmart was putting alarms on each 60 count carton because they were $30. [23:57] psydruid I wouldn't even deliver the pizza at home [23:57] psydruid You pay in advance and I would drop it somewhere close to your place and you come and pick it up [23:58] psydruid It's not worth risking your life for a few dollars [23:59] DaemonFC I just stock up on toothpaste a couple years at a time and bank the rebates. [23:59] DaemonFC Before you start throwing money in CDs, you should stock up on the stuff you're constantly using and bank rebates. [23:59] DaemonFC They can't raise the price on that anymore.