●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 ●● ● May 25 [00:00] *phebus has quit (Quit: POKE 1,0) [00:00] techrights-bot #LibreOffice Community Member Monday: Hseyin G http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151556 #opendocument #odf #freesw [00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice Community Member Monday: Hseyin G | Tux Machines [00:03] techrights-bot Super compact motorized turn signals for a bike | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/05/24/super-compact-motorized-turn-signals-for-a-bike/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Super compact motorized turn signals for a bike | Arduino Blog [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:03] techrights-bot Create triangulated illustrations with astonishing open-source free: #FOSStriangulator http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151557 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Create triangulated illustrations with astonishing open-source free: FOSStriangulator | Tux Machines [00:04] schestowitz hours ago: https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/05/24/2021-21-chattering/ [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.21 Chattering Rakudo Weekly News [00:06] techrights-bot #suse promoting #clownComputing and #ProprietarySoftware https://www.suse.com/c/you-are-now-free-to-innovate-anywhere/ see http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-You Are Now Free to Innovate Anywhere | SUSE Communities [00:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights [00:09] *MathAmphetamine (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [00:09] *Harry86 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [00:11] schestowitz MathAmphetamine: working in the lab again? [00:12] *CrystalMath[llf] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:13] techrights-bot #ProxyJump is more secure than SSH agent forwarding - Florida News Times https://floridanewstimes.com/proxyjump-is-more-secure-than-ssh-agent-forwarding/268296/ #floridanewstimes says so, but is it true? [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-floridanewstimes.com | ProxyJump is more secure than SSH agent forwarding - Florida News Times [00:13] *MathAmphetamine has quit (Client Quit) [00:13] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [00:13] CrystalMath my client started acting up [00:13] CrystalMath that was very weird [00:13] CrystalMath i wonder if it was exploited :/ [00:16] techrights-bot #Fraunhofer are malicious and #riscv would be wise to heel away from Fraunhofer https://www.design-reuse.com/news/50012/risc-v-functional-safety-processor-ip-core-cast-fraunhofer-ipms.html [00:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.design-reuse.com | RISC-V Functional Safety Processor IP Core Introduced by CAST and Fraunhofer IPMS [00:17] *kgz has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:19] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [00:20] techrights-bot What Is GNU/Linux? What Can You Use #GNULinux For? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151558 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What Is Linux? What Can You Use Linux For? | Tux Machines [00:20] MinceR https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gist.github.com | freenode-irc-drama-and-goodbye.md GitHub [00:21] schestowitz seen that [00:21] schestowitz [22:17] https://gist.github.com/prawnsalad/4ca20da6c2295ddb06c1646791c61953 [00:21] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [00:21] schestowitz like I said, let's move on [00:21] schestowitz no good will come out of that fight [00:22] schestowitz it causes community fatigue [00:30] techrights-bot Red Hat Satellite 6.9.2 has been released https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-satellite-692-has-been-released #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [00:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat Satellite 6.9.2 has been released [00:30] *kgz (~kragniz@nyaa.kragniz.eu) has joined #techrights [00:31] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat loves #buzzwords https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/devsecops-compliance-make-your-auditors-job-easier [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | DevSecOps compliance: Make your auditor's job easier! [00:32] techrights-bot That's #gnu rather than #linux https://www.networkworld.com/article/3619634/viewing-compressed-file-content-on-linux-without-uncompressing.html [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | Viewing compressed file content on Linux without uncompressing | Network World [00:34] techrights-bot Avoid #floridanewstimes ... This is possibly plagiarism... but lousy #googlenews rewards scammers. [00:35] techrights-bot What Is #RockyLinux and Should You Consider It? https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-rocky-linux/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest #rhel [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | What Is Rocky Linux and Should You Consider It? [00:35] XRevan86 > Ariadne: "It's all fucked, there is nothing I can do to fix things" [00:36] schestowitz context? [00:36] schestowitz what is this about? [00:36] schestowitz libera chat? [00:36] schestowitz freenode? [00:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: She left the Freenode staff. [00:37] schestowitz the community? [00:37] schestowitz The rift? [00:37] XRevan86 I had to find out from a third party. [00:37] schestowitz I know she did [00:37] XRevan86 which is a bit annoying [00:37] schestowitz because of peer pressure [00:37] schestowitz this cult mentality [00:37] schestowitz very sad [00:37] schestowitz shaming and expulsion [00:37] schestowitz fear of losing friends [00:39] schestowitz 1) freenode works well for us at the moment [00:39] schestowitz 2) i assume it was left in working condition [00:39] schestowitz 3) opal said something about abuse prevention [00:39] schestowitz 4) creating panic and uncertainty is a strategy [00:39] schestowitz freenode has decades-long pedigree [00:39] schestowitz and it's the default for many [00:42] *balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) [00:42] schestowitz to me, it shows some people want to crash and burn things [00:42] schestowitz the same people who ask us to trust them with some new network [00:42] schestowitz I don't trust them for a second [00:42] schestowitz they don't even respect where they came from [00:42] MinceR "some men just want to watch the world burn" [00:43] schestowitz so why would they respect some random form like ours? [00:43] schestowitz I've just spoken for ~4 hours with freenode's owner [00:43] schestowitz who seems sincere and legitimate [00:43] schestowitz I don't say that lightly about people [00:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: Have ye read the prawnsalad's paste that MinceR shared? [00:44] schestowitz I did [00:44] MinceR he shared it before, but i didn't notice [00:44] XRevan86 oh [00:44] techrights-bot Welcome to #Inkscape 1.1! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151559 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to Inkscape 1.1! | Tux Machines [00:45] schestowitz '1618864721766|prawnsalad|you want to "win" at any cost it seems. you mentioned this before too. things were calm and settled and the way this reorg has just come about and blogged yesterday underhanded the whole thing" [00:47] schestowitz "IRC has always had mob mentality and large echo chambers depending on the groups of people you are with. What all this drama has shown me though is that there are more illogical, emotionally run, people hiding facts and trying to be sneaky than I thought at the same time. So many assumptions built upon assumptions and then run with it." [00:49] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21032729 [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5350217) [00:49] *balrog (balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [00:50] techrights-bot This does not match my experience at all. Setting up printing, for instance, is a breeze, assuming you don't pick some oddball brand https://medium.com/geekculture/why-i-quit-linux-as-a-creative-after-4-years-965944ffb68f [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why I Quit Linux as a Creative After 4 Years | by David Majister | Geek Culture | May, 2021 | Medium [00:51] techrights-bot "Welcome to the #Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter, Issue 684 for the week of May 16 22, 2021." https://ubuntu-news.org/2021/05/24/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-684/ #gnu #linux [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-news.org | Ubuntu Fridge | Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 684 [00:51] techrights-bot celery-batches 0.5 released! https://patrick.cloke.us/posts/2021/05/24/celery-batches-0.5-released/ [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patrick.cloke.us | celery-batches 0.5released! [00:54] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:54] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [00:55] schestowitz Is this a new site from Pocock? https://softwarefreedom.institute//en/2021/05/24/voice-video-business-messaging/ [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-softwarefreedom.institute | Voice, Video and Business Messaging Solutions | Software Freedom Institute SA [00:56] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151560 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines ● May 25 [01:00] techrights-bot " #GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Software) is flat-out one of the best editing applications available anywhere for any price. Its suite of features is impressively full, and more are being added all the time." https://petapixel.com/2021/05/24/best-free-photography-editing-apps/ [01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Best Free Photography Editing Applications in 2021 | PetaPixel [01:01] techrights-bot "I come to the conclusion, that the mac is becoming more and more a newbie operating system." #applem #junk #hype #proprietarySoftware https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/they-really-want-me-to-reboot-my-mac-for-podcast-app.2297637/ [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | They really want me to reboot my mac for PODCAST App? | MacRumors Forums [01:01] XRevan86 https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1396909867563114502 [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "maybe, but id rather move on. i think freenode definitely isnt salvageable, and so i would rather just not waste any more time on this, people should use libera or oftc." | nitter [01:01] XRevan86 That's her comment on this. [01:02] techrights-bot Welcome to #Inkscape 1.1! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151559 [01:05] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat : #RockyLinux , #RedHat on Compliance, and Red Hat Satellite 6.9.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151561 #TuxMachines [01:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat: Rocky Linux, Red Hat on Compliance, and Red Hat Satellite 6.9.2 | Tux Machines [01:06] schestowitz XRevan86: yet, but she told me the same last week [01:06] schestowitz I heard since that users decreased from 70k to 65k [01:07] schestowitz not a major decline [01:07] XRevan86 "I heard since that users decreased from 70k to 65k" that's not a representative statistic, as many people maintain a double presence, even while deciding to move. [01:08] schestowitz understandable, but still... [01:09] schestowitz anyway, I heard IRC as a whole decreases in usage [01:09] schestowitz but those things can turn around [01:09] schestowitz like you see with gemini [01:09] schestowitz the protocol is simple and IRC generally works [01:09] schestowitz anyway, let's move on, shall we? [01:09] schestowitz this is bogging us down [01:10] schestowitz I want to write articles and move to other matters [01:10] XRevan86 schestowitz: I don't think we can move on anytime soon. [01:11] schestowitz we can in the sense that I meant [01:11] schestowitz this IRC channel and the site can talk about other topics [01:11] schestowitz when RMS/FSF came under attack it led to distraction and fatigue [01:11] schestowitz not much coding, reporting [01:12] schestowitz lots of fighting for weeks though [01:12] schestowitz and that changed nothing [01:12] schestowitz In a number of hours (I need some sleep) I will do an article about EPO [01:12] schestowitz very major case starting later this week [01:12] schestowitz with a lot at stake [01:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.41 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.41 swarm size (avg): 229.74 [01:27] *rasengan[llf] is now known as rasengan [01:27] XRevan86 The more time passes the more I appreciate https://youtu.be/N83PSvdSYBI , the richer sounds makes a difference. 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Support Andrew Lee! | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/lee-side.pdf) [02:16] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [02:17] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 25.98 swarm size (avg): 229.82 [02:23] AdmFubar https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2021/02/09/microsoft-patent-reaches-beyond-death-pseudo-reincarnation/id=129801/ [02:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ipwatchdog.com | Microsoft Patent Reaches Beyond Death to Pseudo-Reincarnation [02:25] baronhk[m] matrix dot org stopped federating to my account on nerdsin.space this morning. [02:25] *wineroots (f24d257755@gateway/shell/disroot.org/x-awiropvfthztuejg) has joined #techrights [02:27] XRevan86 baronhk[m]: Brokenness or reasons? [02:31] MinceR they probably got offended again [02:33] *kingoffrance (~x@2601:681:8200:b890::344b) has joined #techrights [02:34] XRevan86 or broke again [02:35] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [02:36] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-240521.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Monday, May 24, 2021 [02:37] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240521.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-240521.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, May 24, 2021 [02:38] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. 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[02:58] *XRevan86 sees PIA on the sponsors' list at matrix.org, does that mean LTM or does that mean Kape? ● May 25 [03:02] *XRevan86 opened https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:English_derogatory_terms [03:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Category:English derogatory terms - Wiktionary [03:02] *XRevan86 sees JAFFA [03:02] XRevan86 kree? [03:03] MinceR :) [03:03] AdmFubar quick dial home [03:03] MinceR shal'kek nem'ron [03:04] techrights-ipfs Gemini requests since start of month: 106188 total Total pages: 35671 Active: active (running) since Fri 2021-03-26 00:17:05 GMT; 1 months 29 days ago [03:04] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 2.0 GB TotalOut: 544 MB [03:04] techrights-ipfs New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:05] AdmFubar I'm outta here for the night.... 'night all [03:05] XRevan86 AdmFubar: Good night. [03:05] XRevan86 , shol'va [03:05] MinceR o/ [03:05] techrights-ipfs QmXEGvfJkUyZeSdojRxGv8mgaT1DtwxZFH2yt6fT9ukg9c [03:06] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [03:06] XRevan86 Tal'ma'te [03:16] *willyg_cos (~joeuser@199.58.187.24) has joined #techrights [03:18] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 36.50 swarm size (avg): 229.90 [03:27] *koo6 has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:28] rasengan https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/ [03:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Freenode IRC resign en masse after takeover by Koreas crown prince | Ars Technica [03:40] *sepsinn (~sepsinn@2601:140:887f:bad0::ff0c) has joined #techrights [03:42] XRevan86 > So what Discord guild are we going to use to chat about this? [03:42] XRevan86 Hah, also salt on my wound. [03:44] *techrights-ipfs has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [03:59] MinceR how does one misread +oO as "+o0" in this context? which ircd/services uses digits for mode characters? [03:59] KindOne Weird font? ● May 25 [04:00] KindOne I use comic sans so O is fat and 0 is slim. Some people confuse my nick for Kind0ne [04:01] kingoffrance :/ my irc has . inside for zero, my terminal slash [04:01] kingoffrance i handwrite slash out of habit now too [04:01] MinceR usually O is fat and 0 is slim on proportional fonts, afaict [04:04] kingoffrance i loop lowercase "el" for same reason which probably makes ppl "why is one letter cursive" [04:04] kingoffrance that saves me having to worry about numeral "1" whether to serif or not [04:05] kingoffrance the slash z is common too [04:05] kingoffrance my 5's are round so i never worry about that [04:05] kingoffrance err, 2's [04:06] *rianne has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [04:06] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [04:07] kingoffrance im sure there's some technical name for "disambigous features" but i don't know it [04:08] kingoffrance likewise slash 7 never seemed necessary to me [04:08] kingoffrance just dont make a crooked "1" [04:11] MinceR :) [04:13] XRevan86 In Russia the common way is a crooked 1, a slashed 7 and a 4 with an open top, in the UK the other versions. [04:18] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [04:19] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [04:24] kingoffrance im not sure if people slash for 5 versus S but i never saw any reason to [04:24] *willyg_cos has quit (Quit: Gone...) [04:25] XRevan86 kingoffrance: Never saw that happen. [04:25] MinceR i never saw that either [04:25] kingoffrance thats how i feel about 2 and Z :) [04:25] MinceR i slash my 0-s and write my 8-s the way graffiti wants [04:26] XRevan86 kingoffrance: Z could get lazy-curvy, 5 can't. [04:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [04:35] baronhk[m]1 test [04:36] baronhk[m] Oh, it's working one way, apparently. [04:44] KindOne test failed. (a)bort, (i)gnore, (r)etry, (f)ail [04:44] *ChanServ removes voice from hook54321 ● May 25 [05:17] *lavendereyes has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:18] *lavendereyes (~lavendere@gateway/tor-sasl/lavendereyes) has joined #techrights ● May 25 [06:11] *bleb (~cm@unaffiliated/bleb) has joined #techrights [06:43] schestowitz baronhk[m]: I see you enjoy matrix censorship [06:43] schestowitz but it's "OPEN!" 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" [07:39] schestowitz Wow, the hypocrisy [07:39] schestowitz Google does it all the time [07:39] schestowitz but would deplatform people who do the same [07:39] schestowitz " Royalty payments and tax withholding: For creators entitled to revenue payments, such payments will be treated as royalties from a U.S. tax perspective and Google will withhold taxes where required by law. " [07:39] schestowitz Does Google pay corporate tax? [07:39] schestowitz This is hilarious [07:39] schestowitz Google showing its double standards [07:42] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [07:43] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [07:50] kingoffrance thats a funny mostly-anachronism "royalties" that still lingers [07:51] kingoffrance if we are giong to do "formalism" now lol [07:51] schestowitz sometimes it suits a narrative [07:52] kingoffrance yeah, thats why its selective :) [07:52] kingoffrance because if you real about it, lots of lingering [07:56] kingoffrance im sure there's a term where you obey to the letter to show ridiculousness of something ● May 25 [08:07] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [08:13] kingoffrance for ssl i see both libera and freenode use let's encrypt (not trying to start that again, just a note about let's encrypt) [08:27] schestowitz LE is not the worse [08:27] schestowitz startcom/tls is worse [08:27] schestowitz and not just because of china/israel [08:28] schestowitz but because of some of the practices [08:28] schestowitz I think they just give little assurances as a CA [08:28] schestowitz if you want to bash libera and freenode, there are other aspects [08:28] schestowitz like extensive use of microsoft shithub, which is proprietary and NSA [08:29] kingoffrance who uses startcom/tls ? [08:32] kingoffrance looks like it is gone [08:38] *balrog has quit (Quit: Bye) [08:40] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:40] *rianne has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:40] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [08:40] *balrog (balrog@unaffiliated/balrog) has joined #techrights [08:40] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [08:42] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [08:59] techrights-bot How Pharmas Lucrative #Patent System Is Complicating The Pandemic https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-pharmas-lucrative-patent-system-is-complicating-the-pandemic/ [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Pharmas Lucrative Patent System Is Complicating The Pandemic | FiveThirtyEight [08:59] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151562 #Linux #TuxMachines [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [08:59] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, May 24, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives ● May 25 [09:01] techrights-bot The EPOs War on #Justice and Assault on the #Law Part 19: Ladies and Gentlemen, Place Your Bets http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/bets-g121/ #epo #europe #corruption [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 19: Ladies and Gentlemen, Place Your Bets | Techrights [09:02] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [09:03] techrights-bot Roumor: #ibm layoffs later this week https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [09:03] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 24, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/irc-log-240521/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/25/irc-log-240521/ [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, May 24, 2021 | Techrights [09:03] techrights-bot The EPOs #BoA decision on G 1/21 seems to have already been made by virtue of stacking; but its not entirely impossible that following the removal of #Beckedorf and #Josefsson (it happened after writing this series) something surprising will happen http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/bets-g121/ [09:06] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [09:07] *hook54321 has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [09:15] *openJ has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [09:18] *openJ (sid276354@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-booakzjtzcylcece) has joined #techrights [09:23] *openJ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:27] *openJ (sid276354@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aqbrywlvcfpdroes) has joined #techrights [09:31] *hook54321 (sid149355@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fxiqoajqmgtmgpcp) has joined #techrights [09:34] *GuySoft (~guysoft@2a0d:6fc1:2:1f00:a1cd:44ab:6375:f6c9) has joined #techrights [09:54] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151566 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:54] techrights-bot Running Modern #GNULinux From A Single Floppy Disk http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151565 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Running Modern Linux From A Single Floppy Disk | Tux Machines [09:55] techrights-bot #What are Daemons in #GNULinux h Why are They Used? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151564 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What are Daemons in Linux? 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Henley [10:13] techrights-bot #Microosft #Windows TCO: #DataBreaches # UK: Customers hit as ransomware incident blacks out Doncaster insurance firm https://www.databreaches.net/uk-customers-hit-as-ransomware-incident-blacks-out-doncaster-insurance-firm/ [10:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.databreaches.net | UK: Customers hit as ransomware incident blacks out Doncaster insurance firm [10:20] techrights-bot Deciphering the #EPO 's Media Strategy for Handling Its Illegal Practices, Which It Already Extends Until Next Year (Without Even Waiting for the Kangaroo Court's Ruling) http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/enshrining-illegal-practices/ #europe #corruption #patents #swpats [10:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Deciphering the EPOs Media Strategy for Handling Its Illegal Practices, Which It Already Extends Until Next Year (Without Even Waiting for the Kangaroo Courts Ruling) | Techrights [10:30] *alextee has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:30] techrights-bot NEWS #DeutscheWelle #Privacy #Surveillance Air #India reveals passenger data stolen in [crack] attack https://www.dw.com/en/air-india-reveals-passenger-data-stolen-in-hack-attack/a-57635151 [10:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Air India reveals passenger data stolen in hack attack | News | DW | 23.05.2021 [10:31] techrights-bot NEWS #InternationalBusinessTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Amazon to extend ban on #police use of face recognition tech https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/amazon-extend-ban-police-use-face-recognition-tech-1690455 [10:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ibtimes.co.uk | Amazon to extend ban on police use of face recognition tech [10:36] techrights-bot NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance 1.7 million affected by [crack] of top #Japan dating app https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/1-7-million-affected-by-hack-of-top-japan-dating-app/82908038 [10:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Dating app: 1.7 million affected by hack of top Japan dating app, IT News, ET CIO [10:36] techrights-bot NEWS #Forbes #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook Still Secretly Tracks Your iPhoneThis Is How To Stop It https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2021/05/22/apple-user-warning-how-to-stop-facebook-secretly-tracking-your-iphone-ipad/ [10:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Facebook Still Secretly Tracks Your iPhoneThis Is How To Stop It [10:36] techrights-bot NEWS #NYOB #Privacy #Surveillance #EuropeanParliament calls on Commission to open infringement proceedings against #Ireland https://noyb.eu/en/european-parliament-calls-commission-open-infringement-proceedings-against-ireland [10:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noyb.eu | European Parliament calls on Commission to open infringement proceedings against Ireland [10:37] techrights-bot The EPOs communications strategy for handling G 1/21 ( #kangaroocourt to approve #EPC and #GDPR violations) will be interesting; the management is already extending this illegal practice until next year, without bothering to see the legal ramifications or assessment to be composed by Wim Van der Eijk, a former Vice-President at the #EPO itself (another conflict of interest) http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/enshrini [10:48] *willyg_cos (~joeuser@107.181.184.116) has joined #techrights [10:57] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.106) has joined #techrights ● May 25 [11:00] *willyg_cos has quit (Quit: Gone...) 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[11:32] *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat May 22 09:14:30 2021 [11:32] *finikiwi (0257e636@ppp-2-87-230-54.home.otenet.gr) has joined #techrights [11:32] *finikiwi (0257e636@ppp-2-87-230-54.home.otenet.gr) has left #techrights [11:32] *Guest51793 (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has left #techrights [11:32] *Condor (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has joined #techrights [11:43] *koo6 (~koo6@89-24-13-235.customers.tmcz.cz) has joined #techrights [11:48] *BifrostBot[m] (bifrostmat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-eidomkjffxsexfsf) has joined #techrights [11:50] techrights-bot #LibreOffice 7.2 Alpha1 is ready for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151569 #freesw #opendocument #TuxMachines [11:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreOffice 7.2 Alpha1 is ready for testing | Tux Machines [11:52] techrights-bot #FreeSoftware Applications with Libre in Their Names http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151568 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freesw [11:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software Applications with Libre in Their Names | Tux Machines [11:52] techrights-bot 4 Best Free and #freesw Web-Based #Email Clients http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151567 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Free and Open Source Web-Based Email Clients | Tux Machines [11:53] *KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:56] *alextee[m] (alexteemat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qjehdnfkcufioxnf) has joined #techrights [11:57] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:57] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:57] *alynpost has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:59] *lockeanarchist (~lockeanar@unaffiliated/deathcrawler) has joined #techrights [11:59] *alynpost (~alynpost@irc.prgmr.com) has joined #techrights [11:59] *alynpost has quit (Changing host) [11:59] *alynpost (~alynpost@prgmr/staff/alynpost) has joined #techrights [11:59] *buzzert_ (~buzzert@buzzert.net) has joined #techrights ● May 25 [12:00] *rasengan has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:00] *search_social has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:00] *buzzert has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [12:01] *search_social (~search_so@99-112-18-250.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [12:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:05] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [12:05] *rianne (~rianne@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:06] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [12:06] techrights-bot The only injection that has almost 100% efficacy is lethal injection. Almost... there were some horrific stories where it wasn't effective enough. AZ is now a viable challenger. 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Except the females that got promoted because they are female." #ibm #layoffs rumoured for this Thursday https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [12:28] *wallacer has quit (Quit: wallace dozed off) [12:28] *wallacer (~quassel@2001:bc8:1824:9a:cafe:babe:b00b:aa05) has joined #techrights [12:29] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #fb Court Orders #WhatsApp to Suspend Users Sharing Pirated Movie https://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-whatsapp-to-suspend-users-sharing-pirated-movie-210524/ [12:29] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #de German #UploadFilter Law Sets Standards to Prevent Overblocking https://torrentfreak.com/german-upload-filter-proposal-sets-standards-to-prevent-overblocking-210524/ [12:31] *techrights-ipfs (~techright@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:c7f2:e919:b6dc:6252) has joined #techrights [12:45] kingoffrance "I've noticed that the whole "we're all one big, happy blue family" shtick applies only when the management wants something" yeah gates or one of his mouthpieces said something like that....offer void for anything actual family provides [12:46] kingoffrance as soon as you ask them to do things "family" does they will 180 [12:47] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [12:47] kingoffrance carlin would have a field day with that one ● May 25 [13:03] *ChanServ removes voice from mekkis [13:13] techrights-bot NEWS #ForeignPolicy #Belarus Is Becoming Europes North Korea https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/24/belarus-ryanair-flight-roman-protasevich-lithuania-north-korea/ [13:14] schestowitz kingoffrance: corporations are family, my friend. MinceR [13:14] CrystalMath hmm, rasengan left? [13:17] techrights-bot How quickly people forget that Trumpland (the North Korea of the West) downed a plane in Europe, even a plane of a president, because it was looking for Snowden. #bolivia [13:18] techrights-bot NEWS #BBC #Belarus journalist's family fear #torture after plane arrest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57233412 [13:19] schestowitz CrystalMath: just from here? [13:19] schestowitz I chatted with him for almost 4 hours yesterday [13:19] schestowitz doubt he's upset at anything [13:20] techrights-bot NEWS #RSF #Belarus Belarusian journalists report being tortured in prison https://rsf.org/en/news/belarusian-journalists-report-being-tortured-prison [13:22] *brendyyn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.1) [13:25] techrights-bot NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Belarus Who Is Roman Protasevich, the Captive Journalist in Belarus? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/23/world/europe/roman-protasevich.html [13:25] CrystalMath schestowitz: ah, no, i can't seem to find him on IRC [13:25] CrystalMath must be busy [13:25] techrights-bot NEWS #CNN #Belarus Did Belarus 'hijack' a civilian airliner to detain an activist? https://edition.cnn.com/2021/05/23/europe/belarus-ryanair-pratasevich-intl/index.html [13:25] schestowitz CrystalMath: he is a decent person [13:25] schestowitz and worked like mad this past week [13:25] CrystalMath yeah [13:25] schestowitz has kids and all [13:30] schestowitz CrystalMath: did you have a chance to read the article I sent you? [13:30] schestowitz (sort of sent) [13:30] schestowitz There's a PR agent of the EPO of Serbian descent [13:31] schestowitz [11:24] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- @schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: An Ode to #JeannineHoppe and #NikolausObrovski http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/epo-stacked-courts/ #EPO #haar #injustice [13:31] schestowitz Nikolaus Obrovski [13:33] techrights-bot When judges reinvent themselves as agents of #misinformation http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/epo-stacked-courts/ #epo #europe #patent #corruption [13:34] phobos_anomaly That sounds like the Judges in Missouri [13:36] techrights-bot Kevin E. Noonan and chums still trying hard to stir up phony controversy to undermine the agency or court that thwarts loads of #fakepatents -- ones that #USPTO examiners ought never have granted, notably #swpats https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/05/new-vision-gaming-development-inc-v-sg-gaming-inc-fed-cir-2021.html #ptab #patents [13:37] techrights-bot Those are not properly and they are definitely not "rights", either. At one point in the process of becoming a "lawyer" do they program people to lie to other people? https://www.burges-salmon.com/news-and-insight/legal-updates/a-guide-to-intellectual-property-rights-in-the-uk #burgessalmon [13:38] techrights-bot NEWS #CPJ #Belarus arrests journalist #RamanPratasevich after diverting flight to #Minsk https://cpj.org/2021/05/belarus-arrests-journalist-raman-pratasevich-after-diverting-flight-to-minsk/ [13:38] techrights-bot NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Ethiopia Expels New York Times Reporter https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/world/africa/ethiopia-new-york-times-simon-marks.html [13:38] techrights-bot [Old] #NewYorkTimes As #Ethiopia Fights in #Tigray Region, a Crackdown on Journalists https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/world/africa/ethiopia-tigray-journalists.html [13:40] techrights-bot The liars from EPO mouthpiece #ManagingIP (and person who did a puff pieces interview with #EPO President months ago) tell us we must accept a stacked, rigged #kangaroocourt set up to legalise the illegal https://www.managingip.com/article/b1rzknqddjmbhm/opinion-we-must-end-vico-debate-once-epo-case-is-settled [13:41] techrights-bot This did NOT age well https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/epo-ready-to-deliver-unitary-patent see http://techrights.org/wiki/Unitary_Patent [13:44] *schestowitz gives voice to techrights-ipfs TechrightsBot-tr [13:45] techrights-bot NEWS #NBC 'He died like an animal': Some #police still 'hogtie' people despite risks https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/he-died-animal-some-police-still-hogtie-people-despite-risks-n1268032 [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | 'He died like an animal': Some police still 'hogtie' people despite risks [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to alextee[m] alynpost baronhk[m] baronhk[m]1 [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to BifrostBot[m] bleb buzzert_ Condor [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to CrystalMath DiffieHellman downey[m] GNUmoon [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to GuySoft hook54321 inky kgz [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to kingoffrance koo6 lockeanarchist mekkis [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to mmu_man Noisytoot notanamber[m] phobos_anomaly [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to prurigro psydroid rianne rsheftel14 [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to search_social sepsinn slep swaggboi [13:46] *schestowitz gives voice to wineroots XRevan86 xvx [13:46] schestowitz for reasons unknown to me, some cannot speak here without voice [13:54] CrystalMath quieted [13:55] CrystalMath #techrights q $~a MinceR!mincer@unaffiliated/mincer [13:55] CrystalMath remember, there were spambots [13:55] CrystalMath unregistered people now cannot speak here as a result of the mitigation [13:55] CrystalMath schestowitz: i remember giving MinceR the command for this mitigation [13:56] CrystalMath but i forgot to mention it here [13:58] *ChanServ removes voice from wineroots [13:59] wineroots > Mode #techrights [-v wineroots] by ChanServ [13:59] wineroots what does this mean? ● May 25 [14:00] phobos_anomaly voice was taken away... [14:00] wineroots hmm, I can still send a msg. So... [14:01] phobos_anomaly Yeah. Evidently you are loud enough that even chanserv can't silence you ;) [14:02] wineroots hahaha, of course! :D [14:07] *KindOne (~KindOne@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [14:12] zoobab got lots of spammers in the last days [14:29] *KindOne has quit (Quit: K-Lined) [14:32] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [14:34] CrystalMath wineroots: possibly uou identified [14:34] CrystalMath *you [14:44] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [14:45] wineroots I did and the mode changed to remove voice and msg still went. Found it odd. [14:45] wineroots CrystalMath: [14:46] CrystalMath wineroots: this channel allows registered people to speak [14:46] CrystalMath that's why [14:46] CrystalMath only unregistered are silenced [14:46] wineroots Oh, I see. Thanks for the info! [14:47] CrystalMath and you were -v'd because you're not on the access list [14:47] wineroots access list? [14:54] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:56] baronhk[m]1 schestowitz: I'm writing about Matrix.org some more and why federation is flaky even if the mods don't intend to disconnect it, or you. Also, why everyone should be using a VPN. [14:56] baronhk[m]1 "Western politicians want to make encryption itself illegal after their new laws made VPNs a high demand commodity, while people who associate with criminal sexual deviates (and may be one themselves), like Bill Gates, cheer this on. Naturally, they'll exempt themselves. British PM Boris Johnson uses Signal. [14:56] baronhk[m]1 While Americans were cheering on the second Coronavirus stimulus where they got $600 (which isn't much, especially with the hyperinflation currently spilling out into the real economy), the Democrats and Republicans got together to pass a Kangaroo Copyright Court law in the same legislation, where any American can be sued for copyright for up to $30,000 each claim." [14:58] baronhk[m]1 "The EU Meme Law was scandalous, and Americans were just so broke that they accepted a one time payoff, while the price of french fries at McDonalds is now $3.75." [14:58] schestowitz [14:46] only unregistered are silenced [14:58] schestowitz that explains it, thanks [14:59] baronhk[m] Oh for shit's sake. [14:59] baronhk[m] The federation problem is at it again. ● May 25 [15:01] schestowitz yeah [15:01] schestowitz we'll get past it, eventually [15:01] schestowitz there are foes of freedom of expression among us [15:02] schestowitz the "free speech BUT" crowd [15:02] stormchaser3000 I have an idea... how viable would it be to have an alternative to usernames and passwords? perhaps something like a unique identifier sent to a person's email using a pgp key, then having the email information be discarded from the server so as not to associate the user with the email? [15:03] schestowitz alternatives to passwords tend to accompany human rights violations [15:03] stormchaser3000 if a person want's to register, they just solve a captcha (this would have to run on the server itself), enter an email address and upload a public key [15:03] schestowitz things like biometrics and RFID-like things [15:03] stormchaser3000 then they get something like a 16 - 24 character hexadecimal string which they use to log in [15:04] stormchaser3000 of course, this would mean that the server would have to discard the information about the user's email and public key as soon as the E-Mail is sent and encrypted [15:05] schestowitz Andrew's brother (new) https://destinationlinux.org/episode-227/ [15:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 227: Interview with Shells.com: Alex Lee & Zlatan Todoric - Destination Linux [15:06] stormchaser3000 I don't like biometrics or RFID-chip things. I would rather have a string of hexadecimal text that I just save to keepass and paste into a website when I want to login [15:06] techrights-bot #DestinationLinux 227: Interview with Shells.com: Alex Lee & Zlatan Todoric https://destinationlinux.org/episode-227/ #gnu #linux [15:06] stormchaser3000 not a perfect solution by any stretch of the imagination, but I almost wonder if that would be better than having a username and password [15:07] stormchaser3000 it could potentially mitigate the whole "use the same password on every website" syndrome [15:07] XRevan86 Even Hamas condemned the actions of Lukashenko [15:08] *stormchaser3000 will be right back [15:08] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [15:08] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [15:09] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [15:09] techrights-bot Would it be powered by #gnu #linux like #debian based #steamOS h https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/hints-appear-of-valve-making-a-possible-handheld-steam-qsteampalq-neptune-console [15:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hints appear of Valve making a possible handheld Steam "SteamPal" Neptune console | GamingOnLinux [15:10] techrights-bot #HeroicGamesLauncher for running Epic Store titles on Linux 1.7.0 release is out | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/05/heroic-games-launcher-for-running-epic-store-titles-on-linux-170-release-is-out #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Heroic Games Launcher for running Epic Store titles on Linux 1.7.0 release is out | GamingOnLinux [15:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:10] MinceR might as well be windows, get a few years ahead of deadian [15:11] schestowitz h/w specs an issue [15:12] schestowitz XRevan86: even the corporate media cared what Hamas has to say... [15:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's juicy [15:13] schestowitz Hamas does not have MIG fighter jets [15:13] schestowitz that's like doing headlines about what Mongolia says about US insurrection in Jan 6th [15:13] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [15:14] techrights-bot #Systemdfree #antiX 19.4 Release Brings Latest Debian Packages and Updates http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151572 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Systemd-free antiX 19.4 Release Brings Latest Debian Packages and Updates | Tux Machines [15:15] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.73 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 42.71 swarm size (avg): 230.35 [15:18] techrights-bot openSUSE.Asia 2021 Announcement https://news.opensuse.org/2021/05/22/openSUSE.Asia-2021-Announcement/ #suse #opensuse #gnu #linux [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE.Asia 2021 Announcement - openSUSE News [15:21] techrights-bot I notice a pattern: same people hating on #freenode also the same people and groups that attacked #rms ... not perfect overlap, but you can see common interests [15:22] techrights-bot #openSUSE Community Readies for Release Party https://news.opensuse.org/2021/05/25/opensuse-community-readies-for-release-party/ #suse #gnu #linux [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.opensuse.org | openSUSE Community Readies for Release Party - openSUSE News [15:25] techrights-bot So far I saw just 3 #debian developers moaning publicly about #freenode ... vocal minority. Like the Debian devs who strongly condemned RMS while the project as a whole was neutral. There are many hundreds of DDs in total. Don't fall for the "vocal minority"... like the anti- #fsf mob mentality. [15:25] techrights-bot First man in the world to receive the #pfizer shot has just died [15:30] techrights-bot NEWS #uniColumbia #Monopolies One Mans Fight for the Right to Repair Broken MacBooks https://columbianewsservice.com/2021/05/21/one-mans-fight-for-the-right-to-repair-broken-macbooks/ [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-columbianewsservice.com | One Mans Fight for the Right to Repair Broken MacBooks - Columbia News Service [15:31] techrights-bot NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Monopolies Amazon in Negotiations to Buy #MGM in Megadeal (Report) https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/amazon-acquire-mgm-1234954655/ [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Amazon in Talks to Acquire MGM The Hollywood Reporter [15:31] techrights-bot NEWS #Bloomberg #Monopolies #Amazon Deal to Acquire #MGM to Come as Soon as Tuesday https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-24/amazon-deal-to-acquire-mgm-is-said-to-come-as-soon-as-tuesday [15:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [15:38] techrights-bot #LateNightLinux Episode 126 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-126/ #gnu #linux [15:38] techrights-bot #LateNightLinux Episode 126 https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-126/ #gnu #linux [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 126 Late Night Linux [15:40] techrights-bot #IBM outsourcing more of Fedora to #Microsoft #proprietarySoftware ... they want to kill the project, don't they? https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/migrating-the-dnf-stack-ci-to-github-actions/ [15:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Migrating the DNF Stack CI to GitHub Actions Fedora Community Blog [15:44] techrights-bot "The Wi-Fi on my MacBook Pro (a late-2013, 39 cm model, MacBookPro11,2) randomly stops working" #apple #stevejobs says you hold the laptop wrong :) https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/macbook-wifi-dropouts.html [15:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | How I fixed the intermittent Wi-Fi dropouts on my MacBook [15:46] MinceR lol [15:49] techrights-bot NEWS #ProPublica #microsoft #windows The #ColonialPipeline Ransomware Hackers Had a Secret Weapon: Self-Promoting Cybersecurity Firms https://www.propublica.org/article/the-colonial-pipeline-ransomware-hackers-had-a-secret-weapon-self-promoting-cybersecurity-firms [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | The Colonial Pipeline Ransomware Hackers Had a Secret Weapon: Self-Promoting Cybersecurity Firms ProPublica [15:52] techrights-bot #Games : #Godot 3.3.2, Truck Sim, and Lots More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151576 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Godot 3.3.2, Truck Sim, and Lots More | Tux Machines [15:53] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151575 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:53] techrights-bot #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151574 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:53] techrights-bot #SUSE / #OpenSUSE : Release Party, openSUSE.Asia 2021, SUSECON 2021 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151573 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE/OpenSUSE: Release Party, openSUSE.Asia 2021, SUSECON 2021 and More | Tux Machines [15:56] baronhk[m] https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/more-matrix-org-freenode-fun-bonus-why-vpns-should-be-normal-not-just-for-cranks/ [15:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | More Matrix.org/Freenode fun Bonus: Why VPNs should be normal, not just for cranks. BaronHK's Rants [15:58] techrights-bot More coverage about #Inkscape 1.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151559#comment-29750 #freesw #graphics [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Welcome to Inkscape 1.1! | Tux Machines ● May 25 [16:01] techrights-bot When #patenttrolls and other abusers of the #patent system want to drag people to courts that openly advertise facilitating this abuse of the system... https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/personal-jurisdiction-reference.html #swpats #edtx [16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Law School Canons: Ford The New Personal Jurisdiction Quick Reference Guide | Patently-O [16:03] bleb signed up for a techrights.org account last night, still waiting for a confirmation email [16:03] bleb anyone know what's up with that [16:03] techrights-bot Corrupt #EPO treating #cannabis as an invention and grants #patent #monopolies around it. Logic exists not when the sole goal is granting lots of #patents /monopolies. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-european-patent-office-grants-cannabics-pharmaceuticals-patent-for-companys-personalized-medicine-drug-discovery-technology-301298702.html [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | The European Patent Office Grants Cannabics Pharmaceuticals Patent for Company's Personalized Medicine Drug Discovery Technology [16:07] baronhk[m] "People who are truly toxic always need all kinds of stupid drama going on, but they call other people toxic as a form of projection." [16:07] baronhk[m] :) [16:08] techrights-bot #EPO extends the illegal while stacking courts to say it is legal: "On May 20, 2021, the European Patent Office (EPO) announced that it is extending its videoconference pilot program for oral proceedings before the oppositions divisions. All oral proceedings will be held remotely through January 31, 2022." https://www.vorys.com/publications-2928.html [16:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Patent Office Updates You Need to Know: Vorys, Sater, Seymour and Pease LLP [16:10] schestowitz bleb: the email server is not properly configured [16:10] schestowitz years-old issue [16:11] *samiamsam (~d@zukertort.childrenofmay.org) has joined #techrights [16:14] techrights-bot "The Fedora Community with the Marketing Team has brought back the Fedora Podcast!" https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-podcast-is-back/ [16:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Fedora Podcast is back - Fedora Magazine [16:15] techrights-bot Why police reform advocates want Congress to end qualified #immunity - Marketplace https://www.marketplace.org/2021/05/25/why-police-reform-advocates-want-congress-to-end-qualified-immunity/ [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.marketplace.org | Why police reform advocates want Congress to end qualified immunity - Marketplace [16:23] techrights-bot #Microsoft #Windows causing far too many #security incidents, e.g. #ColonialPipeline #ransomware attack, and finally there's a response to it? Remove Windows. https://linuxsecurity.com/features/features/biden-s-new-executive-cybersecurity-order-highlights-the-power-of-open-source-security?rss [16:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | Bidens New Executive Cybersecurity Order Highlights the Power o [16:24] techrights-bot #Fedora and #IBM / #RedHat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151577 #GNU #Linux [16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat | Tux Machines [16:26] techrights-bot #surveillance disservices https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/24/honor_gms_tweet/ [16:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Let us Play: Smartphone brand Honor lets slip it has gained access to Google Mobile Services licences The Register [16:26] *polxy (opticnerve@gateway/vpn/airvpn/opticnerve) has joined #techrights [16:27] techrights-bot "A wealth of language constructs such as sealed classes , objects and inline classes make it possible to define data types that do not even allow inconsistent combinations which makes working with the language as pleasant as possible" https://net2.com/kotlin-the-enhanced-java/ [16:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-net2.com | KOTLIN, The enhanced Java [16:28] bleb schestowitz: i guess thats why none of the articles have comments on them? [16:28] schestowitz yes [16:28] bleb aight [16:29] *polxy has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:30] techrights-bot NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Announcing the Raspberry Pi PoE+ HAT https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/announcing-the-raspberry-pi-poe-hat/ [16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Announcing the Raspberry Pi PoE+ HAT - Raspberry Pi [16:33] techrights-bot #PICOmputer connects Raspberry Pi Pico to QWERTY keyboard, display, and optional LoRa module - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/05/25/picomputer-raspberry-pi-pico-qwerty-keyboard-display-lora-module/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PICOmputer connects Raspberry Pi Pico to QWERTY keyboard, display, and optional LoRa module - CNX Software [16:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:36] techrights-bot Linux 5.14 To Bring #Intel IGC Driver Support For AF_XDP Zero-Copy - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.14-AF-XDP-Zero-Copy-IGC #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 To Bring Intel IGC Driver Support For AF_XDP Zero-Copy - Phoronix [16:36] techrights-bot Linux 5.14 To Support #F2FS Read-Only Feature - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=F2FS-RO-Read-Only #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [16:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 To Support F2FS Read-Only Feature - Phoronix [16:37] techrights-bot This service is maintained by the Federated Networks Association [16:38] techrights-bot #OpenHardware : #RaspberryPI , #RISCV , and Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151578 #GNU #Linux [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware: Raspberry PI, RISC-V, and Arduino | Tux Machines [16:39] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [16:40] techrights-bot The #EPO is a misfit here because it doesn't follow its very own laws. https://www.mondaq.com/india/patent/1072248/strategizing-your-patent-filing-in-europe [16:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Strategizing Your Patent Filing In Europe - Intellectual Property - European Union [16:44] techrights-bot #gnu #linux distro #Bluestar 5.12.6 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ [16:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BluestarLinux download | SourceForge.net [16:45] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers and #Monopolies http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151579 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers and Monopolies | Tux Machines [16:47] techrights-bot " #Anonymity is part of privacy. Anonymity is a choice when someone has privacy. I should explain this too. Being anonymous is a choice while p#rivacy is a right." https://alirezahayati.com/2021/05/21/privacy-vs-i-have-nothing-to-hide/ [16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alirezahayati.com | Privacy vs. "I have nothing to hide" - Ali Reza Hayati [16:48] techrights-bot Screenshot And Annotation Tool #Ksnip 1.9.0 Adds User-Defined Actions, Dockable Widgets And Other Improvements https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/05/screenshot-and-annotation-tool-ksnip.html [16:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Screenshot And Annotation Tool Ksnip 1.9.0 Adds User-Defined Actions, Dockable Widgets And Other Improvements - Linux Uprising Blog [16:49] baronhk[m] https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/the-university-of-minnesota-linux-scandal-doesnt-smell-right-ibm-and-microsofts-toll-on-linux-development-bring-windows-like-experience/ [16:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | The University of Minnesota Linux scandal doesnt smell right. IBM and Microsofts toll on Linux development bring Windows-like experience. BaronHK's Rants [16:52] techrights-bot The University of Minnesota Linux scandal doesnt smell right. #IBM and #Microsoft s toll on #Linux development bring #Windows -like experience. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29751 [16:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Heres Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines [16:55] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [16:56] baronhk[m] I was looking at how distributions package systemd and it became immediately obvious that it's not a real upstream. [16:57] baronhk[m] It's not meant to be easy for any distribution to just pick a version and package it because there are no versions. [16:57] baronhk[m] They have "milestones", kind of. But after that, they don't issue point releases with official backported patches applied, so that you know you're getting a "blessed" release from upstream. [16:58] baronhk[m] You either have to update to the later milestone which adds features and bugs, or you have to figure out which patches from later on are important enough to be cherry picked and hope you backport them correctly yourself. [16:58] baronhk[m] This is almost as bad as Grub 0.97. [16:59] baronhk[m] Where distributions just kept trading patches with each other and not applying the same ones, and then nobody knew what the bootloader was doing or why it was corrupting file systems in some cases, but not others. [16:59] techrights-bot #Linux #Kernel : #F2FS , #IGC , #BTRFS , and Zink http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151580 [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: F2FS, IGC, BTRFS, and Zink | Tux Machines ● May 25 [17:00] baronhk[m] If the goal of systemd was really to harmonize various distributions, it would have point updates or LTS releases so that they could standardize on it and know what they were using. [17:01] baronhk[m] Cherrypicking patches for very long doesn't end well. [17:13] baronhk[m] I just found an air filter for my car on Amazon. Now that the weather is nice I might as well go get that done. [17:13] baronhk[m] For some reason, GM hooked up all kinds of crap to the air intake box that you have to get off. [17:14] baronhk[m] Nothing like trying to do that in the winter. [17:15] baronhk[m] One of the mechanics at Pep Boys said "your air filter is filthy" a couple of months ago, but shops want to charge $60+ for doing these when it's a $9 part and five minutes of work. [17:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 27.10 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 46.21 swarm size (avg): 230.36 [17:16] baronhk[m] So was it filthy? They have every reason to exaggerate how bad it really is since it sells parts and doesn't take much labor. [17:16] techrights-bot Links 25/5/2021: #Inkscape 1.1 and #LibreOffice 7.2 Alpha 1 http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/libreoffice-7-2-alpha-1/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/05/25/libreoffice-7-2-alpha-1/ [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 25/5/2021: Inkscape 1.1 and LibreOffice 7.2 Alpha 1 | Techrights [17:16] baronhk[m] It's something that should be replaced every so often, but I've seen them pretty damned plugged where the car was still running. [17:17] baronhk[m] An ex had one that I took out that had grass and dirt so bad I took it out and smacked it against the car and it went "thump" on the ground from falling out. [17:17] baronhk[m] I threw it back in and ran up to the parts store. :/ [17:18] baronhk[m] Had to do THAT just to get it to start. People and cars. They don't maintain them. [17:18] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151583 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [17:18] techrights-bot #Software : Celery, GIMP, and Ksnip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151582 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Software: Celery, GIMP, and Ksnip | Tux Machines [17:19] baronhk[m] MinceR: I've always viewed air filters and shops as one of those things they do to rip women off. [17:19] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151581 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:19] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has left #techrights ("C-x C-c") [17:19] baronhk[m] If you have to go ask a mechanic to change an air filter, you failed as a man. [17:19] MinceR if you change it yourself, you void your warranty :> [17:20] baronhk[m] It's 5 minutes with a screwdriver. [17:20] baronhk[m] Ford, you don't even need the screwdriver. [17:21] techrights-bot List of #surveillance company and really awful (sometimes illegal) path/advice under the misleading guise of #clowdComputing ... as if there's no such thing as personal files anymore https://www.linuxbabe.com/cloud-storage/best-cloud-storage-providers [17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Are The Best Cloud Storage Providers? Here Are The Top 6 - LinuxBabe [17:22] techrights-bot "Luckily for us, when we started researching how to create something similar, we rapidly discovered that the Blender Fund website itself is open source and licensed under the same license as Blender: GPL. It made it easy to reuse the code." https://carlschwan.eu/2021/05/25/tech-report-of-fund.krita.org/ [17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-carlschwan.eu | Tech report of fund.krita.org [17:23] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [17:35] baronhk[m] MinceR: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/mozilla-newspeak-extension-falls-flat-as-only-1200-users-in-the-world-need-a-safe-space-from-harsh-language/ [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Mozilla Newspeak extension falls flat as only ~1,200 users in the world need a safe space from harsh language. BaronHK's Rants [17:38] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/17/758323cd912bd4fa.jpg [17:42] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:49] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151584 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [17:50] techrights-bot #EPO #Propaganda , Looking to Legitimise a Rigged Panel of Judges, Starts With Author Who Did Puff Pieces With #AntnioCampinos http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/max-propaganda/ #Europe [17:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Propaganda, Looking to Legitimise a Rigged Panel of Judges, Starts With Author Who Did Puff Pieces With Antnio Campinos | Techrights [17:53] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [17:54] *phobos_anomaly has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [17:55] *ChanServ removes voice from hook54321 [17:57] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [17:58] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.106) has joined #techrights ● May 25 [18:00] *inky (~inky@46.241.131.166) has joined #techrights [18:04] techrights-bot #USPTO Promotes #Microsoft #OOXML #Monopoly and #ProprietarySoftware http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ @zoobab more in http://techrights.org/wiki/USPTO#2019 [18:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO Promotes Microsoft Monopoly and Proprietary Software | Techrights [18:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO - Techrights [18:07] techrights-bot NEWS #EFF #Censorship Activists Mobilize to Fight Censorship and Save Open Science https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/05/activists-mobilize-fight-censorship-and-save-open-science [18:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Activists Mobilize to Fight Censorship and Save Open Science | Electronic Frontier Foundation [18:08] techrights-bot #Google is officially releasing its #FuchsiaOS , starting w/ first-gen Nest Hub http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151585 #TuxMachines [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Google is officially releasing its Fuchsia OS, starting w/ first-gen Nest Hub | Tux Machines [18:17] techrights-bot #ManagingIntellectualProperty [sic] ( #ManagingIP ) shames itself by reaffirming its status as mouthpiece for the #litigation industry and for #EPO management; theres no sense of shame in these so-called journalists http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/max-propaganda/ [18:18] techrights-bot Classic example of vendor capture; #Microsoft engaged in endless and well-documented #corruption to push #OOXML and now the U.S. #Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) participates in this marketing #propaganda http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/microsoft-uspto/ [18:20] *rasengan (~rasengan@freenode/staff/rasengan) has joined #techrights [18:20] techrights-bot Eleonora Rosati is associated with #ceipi ... that explains a lot http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/05/book-review-routledge-handbook-of-eu.html CEIPI is run by a criminal who destroyed the #epo http://techrights.org/2020/02/18/ceipi-blocks-critics/ [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Book Review: The Routledge Handbook of EU Copyright Law - The IPKat [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Battistelli Blocked Techrights at EPO (Banned for More Than 5 Years), So CEIPI Wont Respect Access to Information Either | Techrights [18:22] techrights-bot Recognition of the fact that #patent lawyers very often mislead and abuse their clients (for personal gain) https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/05/section-lawyer-blames.html [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Section 285: When Lawyer Blames Client | Patently-O [18:23] baronhk[m] https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/today-in-illinois-another-one-of-governor-jb-pritzkers-paroled-child-killers-goes-missing-government-doesnt-solve-problems-government-is-the-problem/ [18:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Today in Illinois: Another one of Governor JB Pritzkers paroled child killers goes missing. Government doesnt solve problems. Government is the problem. BaronHK's Rants [18:24] techrights-bot "IP" is not a law. There's no such as IP #law ... and it is more like a religion. Even the term contains falsehoods, as this religion is based on a fiction and gross distortion of actual laws. #copyright #trademark #law [18:24] schestowitz CrystalMath: he's back [18:26] cybrNaut everyone in #rsync was just kicked because the mod decided for everyone that freenode/#rsync cannot coexist with libera.chat: https://cdn-social.privacytools.io/ptio-mastodon/media_attachments/files/106/296/901/593/344/667/original/4d91509e670702b8.png [18:27] techrights-bot #rsync antisocial. Kicking out its own people. https://cdn-social.privacytools.io/ptio-mastodon/media_attachments/files/106/296/901/593/344/667/original/4d91509e670702b8.png #freenode #freespeech [18:27] schestowitz cybrNaut: really dumb [18:28] *KindOne has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:28] saint_dogbert what a stupid move... [18:28] saint_dogbert I guess the founder is living up to his name though; basketcase [18:29] baronhk[m] schestowitz: I took the time to respond to some of Richard Stallman's political positions. [18:29] techrights-bot If #google wants to send #mozilla down the ashtray now, then it certainly picked the right leaders for this job https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/mozilla-newspeak-extension-falls-flat-as-only-1200-users-in-the-world-need-a-safe-space-from-harsh-language/ [18:30] *KindOne (kindone@unaffiliated/kindone) has joined #techrights [18:30] saint_dogbert honestly... I'm not a fan of firefox, but I'll be sorry to see it go.. a world where everything is only up to Chrome/Chromium standards will have little to no innovation. That scares me [18:30] schestowitz baronhk[m]: in your blog? [18:31] baronhk[m] Yeah. [18:32] baronhk[m] I think, personally, I'm just going to start voting for the Libertarian party in state elections and Democrats to prevent someone like Trump from coming back on the national level. [18:32] techrights-bot "Since Cancel Culture runs rampant on Matrix.org and entire rooms and users get knifed and disappear daily, I decided to try to use nerdsin.space instead, and the problem is that while the Matrix protocol supports federation, the IRC bridges are not available locally on nerdsin.space, leaving you to do a double shim into IRC." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/more-matrix-org-freenode-fun-bonus-why-vpns-should- [18:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | More Matrix.org/Freenode fun Bonus: Why VPNs should be normal, not just for cranks. BaronHK's Rants [18:33] techrights-bot NEWS #TruthOut #patent #patents #monopoly A Growing International Movement Is Calling for a "People's Vaccine" https://truthout.org/articles/a-growing-international-movement-is-calling-for-a-peoples-vaccine/ [18:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | A Growing International Movement Is Calling for a "People's Vaccine" [18:34] cybrNaut if you try to rejoin #rsync, it redirects to some wikimedia channel [18:34] *schestowitz has quit (Quit: Konversation term) [18:34] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [18:34] -NickServ-schestowitz__!~schestowi@host81-154-169-167.range81-154.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (schestowitz) [18:34] *schestowitz__ has quit (Changing host) [18:34] *schestowitz__ (~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [18:39] cybrNaut strangely, #freenode mods said "it's his choice to do that". You would think they would have a policy to control for name squatting for sabotage like that. [18:44] *phobos_anomaly (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [18:44] *phobos_anomaly is now known as phobos [18:54] *scientes is so tired of sam [18:54] scientes spam [18:54] scientes and shitty software [18:55] scientes spam is the #1 reason I end up using propritary software [18:55] baronhk[m] Now they're talking about Microsoft uncoupling parts of UWP from "the store" and allowing Win32 applications to access them. [18:55] baronhk[m] The whole separation was a disaster from the beginning. [18:56] scientes my brain turns off whenever I hear microsoft mentioned [18:56] baronhk[m] And now they really have few systems that aren't desktop Windows and there's almost no use for UWP at all. [18:56] scientes or really anything that suggests that propritary software is the answer [18:57] baronhk[m] Linux was called "fragmented" and then Microsoft does this. [18:57] scientes wine is less fragmented than windows [18:57] scientes to be honest [18:57] baronhk[m] On top of the fact that there have always been people using multiple versions of Windows without 100% match on the Win32 API. [18:57] scientes however steam has kinda taken over all the user support [18:58] baronhk[m] I'm wondering what kind of "support" Linux 5.10 actually has for the Nintendo Switch controller. [18:58] baronhk[m] I noticed that the Switch emulators have gotten pretty good. Pirates are making Switch game dumps now that just have an emulator to run them built-in. ● May 25 [19:05] psydroid have you seen the "dev kit" for Vista 10 on ARM? [19:05] psydroid https://www.anandtech.com/show/16697/qualcomm-shows-off-snapdragon-dev-kit-for-windows-on-arm-development [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | Qualcomm Shows Off Snapdragon Dev Kit for Windows on Arm Development [19:06] psydroid that's what any random cheap ARM SBC has been like for years [19:07] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [19:07] psydroid Microsoft and Qualcomm are being so greedy with their developers that it's not even funny, but rather sad [19:12] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/20/64c43989419d0f8b.jpg [19:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 17.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.70 swarm size (avg): 230.39 [19:21] *inky (~inky@141.136.77.22) has joined #techrights [19:30] *prurigro has quit (*.net *.split) [19:33] *prurigro (~prurigro@li365-7.members.linode.com) has joined #techrights [19:33] scientes MinceR, you mean hard-assians [19:34] scientes are better than hassassins [19:34] MinceR :) [19:35] MinceR hashshshn [19:35] scientes interesting people [19:35] scientes the mongols captured their leader [19:35] scientes and then pleased him by showing him mating camels [19:36] scientes and then when the hashshasins had been disbanded they killed him [19:36] scientes according to a book i read [19:41] MinceR > The term "assassin" likely has roots in "hashshshn" (hashish smokers or users), a mispronunciation of the original Assiyyn [19:49] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [19:57] scientes MinceR, yes, I was talking about them [19:57] scientes they were a cult [19:58] scientes that was known for political assassination [19:58] MinceR i didn't know that they were not originally named after hashish, though [19:58] scientes something analagous to Osama Bin Laden [19:59] scientes MinceR, saying "mispronunciation" when you do not speak Persian is a bit silly [19:59] scientes and they did smoke hash [19:59] scientes it was a cult you see ● May 25 [20:00] scientes and the cult leader liked watching camels breed [20:00] scientes similar to the way they accuse each other of fucking goats these days [20:02] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:02] MinceR :) [20:03] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [20:18] *saint_dogbert has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:21] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@unaffiliated/kjcole) has joined #techrights [20:29] MinceR (audio:irrelevant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/04/20/63e9a6130a04e667.mp4 [20:32] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [20:34] XRevan86 Is that a political statement of some kind? [20:34] MinceR \_()_/ [20:38] XRevan86 Vader: Luke, ik ben je Vader [20:38] XRevan86 Luke: Ja, jij bent mijn Darth Vader [20:38] MinceR :> [20:40] MinceR there's Darth Sidious and Darth Vader, so i propose Darth Vulnerable and Darth Famous [20:40] MinceR oh, and Darth Visible [20:42] XRevan86 MinceR: Darth Fabulous? [20:42] MinceR infabulous? [20:42] *XRevan86 has no idea what all these have in common though. [20:43] MinceR in- [20:43] MinceR insidious, invader, ... [20:43] XRevan86 MinceR: oh [20:44] XRevan86 MinceR: Then the scariest of them all: Darth Oculous [20:44] MinceR Darth Nocuous? [20:44] XRevan86 right [20:44] MinceR :) [20:44] MinceR Darth Imical [20:45] MinceR Darth Offensive [20:46] XRevan86 Darth Cident [20:46] MinceR :) [20:46] XRevan86 Darth Cubate [20:46] XRevan86 Darth Cursion [20:46] XRevan86 Darth Evitable [20:47] XRevan86 and the last one: Darth Explicable [20:47] MinceR :> [20:47] XRevan86 MinceR: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:English_terms_derived_from_Latin&from=in with this it's just too easy :) [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | Category:English terms derived from Latin - Wiktionary [20:48] MinceR :) [20:49] MinceR ah, Darth Competent [20:50] XRevan86 Darth Stigator, and now ye can't top it ● May 25 [21:00] MinceR Darth Fantile [21:02] XRevan86 ye win %) [21:08] baronhk[m] I plan to write about Microsoft caving on everything with their big Windows announcement, soon. [21:09] baronhk[m] Easing up on the restrictions and letting people publish almost anything to the Windows Store is certainly what they needed to do, 8 years ago. [21:10] baronhk[m] Now it's a race to prevent UWP and AppX from completely falling by the wayside while they're locked into supporting the APIs for 20 years. [21:10] MinceR they can have dehomag reimplement them on top of cancerd [21:10] MinceR all they need to do is remind them that those are "modern" [21:14] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Internet US Telecoms Keep Getting Wrist Slaps For Repeatedly Ripping Off The US Government https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210520/08375846835/us-telecoms-keep-getting-wrist-slaps-repeatedly-ripping-off-us-government.shtml [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Telecoms Keep Getting Wrist Slaps For Repeatedly Ripping Off The US Government | Techdirt [21:15] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #EFF Sues #California Law Enforcement Training Entity Over Its BS Use Of #Copyright #Law To Deny Public Records Requests https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210522/15034746848/eff-sues-california-law-enforcement-training-entity-over-bs-use-copyright-law-to-deny-public-records-requests.shtml [21:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EFF Sues California Law Enforcement Training Entity Over Its BS Use Of Copyright Law To Deny Public Records Requests | Techdirt [21:16] schestowitz__ [19:05] have you seen the "dev kit" for Vista 10 on ARM? [21:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 49.48 swarm size (avg): 230.43 [21:16] schestowitz__ I saw it and ignored it [21:16] schestowitz__ in CNX Software [21:17] schestowitz__ [18:55] spam is the #1 reason I end up using propritary software [21:17] schestowitz__ A lot of spam is the RESULT of proprietary software [21:17] psydroid yes, it's just PR [21:20] schestowitz__ bad standup comedy [21:22] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-reupueznmybdnmcr) has joined #techrights [21:24] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Arizona Arizona County's Voting Machines Rendered Unusable By OAN-Financed Vote Auditors https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210522/16195346849/arizona-countys-voting-machines-rendered-unusable-oan-financed-vote-auditors.shtml don't use "machines" to register votes, ever [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arizona County's Voting Machines Rendered Unusable By OAN-Financed Vote Auditors | Techdirt [21:24] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt Florida Man Signs Blatantly Corrupt And Unconstitutional #SocialControlMedia Bill, Cementing #Florida As Tech Laughing Stock https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210524/10240046862/florida-man-signs-blatantly-corrupt-unconstitutional-social-media-bill-cementing-florida-as-tech-laughing-stock.shtml [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Florida Man Signs Blatantly Corrupt And Unconstitutional Social Media Bill, Cementing Florida As Tech Laughing Stock | Techdirt [21:26] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #patents #Washington State Has Sued A #PatentTroll For Violating Consumer Protection Laws https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210521/11290146842/washington-state-has-sued-patent-troll-violating-consumer-protection-laws.shtml [21:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Washington State Has Sued A Patent Troll For Violating Consumer Protection Laws | Techdirt [21:28] techrights-bot NEWS #Techdirt #Internet Rep. Zoe Lofgren Recognizes The Nuances And Complexities Of Regulating Internet Companies https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210514/11285046806/rep-zoe-lofgren-recognizes-nuances-complexities-regulating-internet-companies.shtml [21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rep. Zoe Lofgren Recognizes The Nuances And Complexities Of Regulating Internet Companies | Techdirt [21:30] techrights-bot Judges who turn #courts into rubber-stamping machines for #patenttrolls are discrediting the #patent system as a whole, but bloggers funded by the #litigation 'industry' (like this one here) don't mind the abuse https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/05/mandamus-albrights-decision.html [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Slow down on Mandamus: Federal Circuit Refuses to Short Circuit Judge Albright's Decision Process [21:31] techrights-bot #redhat badmouthing #fsf and #rms ... while servings its "masters" (yes, that word isn't really offensive in this context) at #microsoft https://www.tfir.io/red-hat-jboss-enterprise-application-platform-now-on-microsoft-azure/ [21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | Red Hat JBoss Enterprise Application Platform Now On Microsoft Azure | TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya [21:32] techrights-bot #ibm "whole hybrid clown model is dependent on mainframes customer base so it would be stupid if ibm sold the only business they have monopoly in (even though it's cyclic and not growing) and can price however they like (high margins)." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1CiCSx#replies [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Systems is next NewCo - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:34] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs wave (rumours say later this week): "Layoffs in GTS have started. In my team of about 50 people, 25 have gotten the call. 30/90 days." (Notice) https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies #redhat [21:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How are we looking on layoffs? - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:35] techrights-bot "180k x 300k per employee = 54 billion The law of big numbers takes into effect all non-productive employee types (managers, researchers, accountants, etc etc) #IBM has to get to 300k for each and every employee on average to be competitive." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [21:36] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs : "Disown then before they disown you." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1e5o68 some from #redhat leave proactively: http://techrights.org/2021/03/19/ibm-is-destroying-rht/ [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | We're only a "family" when it suits them - post regarding IBM layoffs [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM is Destroying Red Hat and Red Hatters Are Leaving | Techrights [21:38] techrights-bot IBM: Dinosaur Incorporated. Trolling the community in pursuit of #MONOPOLY over #gnu #linux and privatisation of #freesw (a shared interest with #microsoft & chums) [21:40] techrights-bot #ZDNet : when we cover "LINUX" we actually promote #microsoft and #windows (again, link omitted). ZDNet is a #MARKETING firm, NOT a news site. #boycottZDNet http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [21:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [21:42] techrights-bot "Im not sure what Ill do in the next election, but I wont be supporting Governor Pritzker again. The Democrats and Republicans are fighting over what way to ruin the state. Maybe I will just support the Libertarians." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/today-in-illinois-another-one-of-governor-jb-pritzkers-paroled-child-killers-goes-missing-government-doesnt-solve-problems-government-is-the-problem/ [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Today in Illinois: Another one of Governor JB Pritzkers paroled child killers goes missing. Government doesnt solve problems. Government is the problem. BaronHK's Rants [21:43] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [21:43] techrights-bot #ibm is dead. Move on. Let IBM die with #microsoft ... "we talked about an ongoing collaboration between IBM and Microsoft to enable the WebSphere product portfolio on Azure." https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/building-together-across-the-tech-ecosystem-to-enable-developers/ IBM boosting Microsoft, as it did in the 1980s http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/real-history-of-microsoft/ [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | How IBM is building together across the tech ecosystem to enable developers IBM Developer [21:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Real History of Microsoft and How It Became Successful | Techrights [21:44] techrights-bot No, Bruce Byfield. #systemd is NOT an init system. Stop helping #ibm spreading this lie. https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/A-Survey-of-Init-Systems [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | A Survey of Init Systems Linux Magazine [21:45] techrights-bot I meanwhile see that #slashdot helps Microsoft #marketing company #zdnet promote #microsoft #vista10 by GOOGLEBOMBING the word "Linux" [21:48] techrights-bot Mark Hachman at #idg has also just googlebombed the word "Linux" to actually promote #microsoft #windows #vista10 ... this is getting truly ridiculous. Mark Hachman is a longtime Microsoft booster. They're killing the "LINUX" brand by diluting or (worse!) hijacking it. [21:49] *saint_dogbert has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:50] *saint_dogbert (~phobos@unaffiliated/phobos-anomaly/x-6744724) has joined #techrights [21:50] techrights-bot #IBM boosting #Microsoft monopoly, not just in #GitHub but also outside it. IBM is a truly misguided company that attacks the founder of GNU/Linux while propping up his enemies. https://redmondmag.com/articles/2021/05/25/ibm-websphere-app-server.aspx [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM WebSphere App Server Now Available on Azure Linux VMs -- Redmondmag.com [21:51] techrights-bot #IBM #RedHat as #ProprietarySoftware reseller https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/migrating-sap-s4hana-migration-deadlines-and-how-red-hat-technologies-can-help [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Migrating to SAP S/4HANA: Migration deadlines and how Red Hat technologies can help [21:52] techrights-bot Pen testing with Linux security tools | https://opensource.com/article/21/5/linux-security-tools #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pen testing with Linux security tools | Opensource.com [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:53] techrights-bot Blobification of #freesw by #redhat https://opensource.com/article/21/5/launch-flatpaks-linux-terminal [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Launch Flatpaks from your Linux terminal | Opensource.com [21:55] techrights-bot #mozilla adding more #proprietarySoftware people to its board https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/05/25/hugh-molotsi-why-im-joining-mozillas-board-of-directors/ previously #microsoft too: http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Hugh Molotsi Joins Mozilla's Board Of Directors [21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozillas Board | Techrights [21:57] techrights-bot #Qualcomm works for #microsoft because they're too #patent parasites that lobby for #swpats and extort firms. Two peas... [21:58] techrights-bot #Qualcomm commitment to #freesw is like #bp commitment to green energy. Don't be a serf... ● May 25 [22:00] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation helps enemies of #linux https://www.engadget.com/green-software-foundation-microsoft-build-linux-github-accenture-150050755.html older: http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/ [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft, the Linux Foundation, and others team up to make software sustainable | Engadget [22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights [22:02] techrights-bot The term "Linux" in "Linux Foundation" is clearly a misfit and Torvalds needs to wake up because Microsoft hijacks the brand to sell Windows. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [22:03] baronhk[m] Firefox giving up on native controls is a serious WTF given that they only plan to maintain another code path for the Mac. [22:04] baronhk[m] 7% marketshare or so I think.on desktop. [22:04] baronhk[m] They should reallybe investigating those memory allocation problems. [22:05] techrights-bot The brand "Linux" is now being misused to promote mass surveillance in misleading 'privacy' clothing (or 'health'). This is a gross distortion of what many of us thought the brand stood for. Abandon this sock agenda. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/linux-foundation-public-health-welcomes-new-projects-and-members-to-advance-public-health-safely-reopen-amid-covid-19-301298729.html [22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Linux Foundation Public Health Welcomes New Projects and Members to Advance Public Health, Safely Reopen Amid COVID-19 [22:06] techrights-bot 2021: The term foundation is being corrupted to the point where non-profit (but actually for-profit) entities promote bad practices, monopolies, and openwashing of truly awful and oppressive things http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/no-shame-left/ [22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Foundation of Shame | Techrights [22:06] schestowitz__ baronhk[m]: Firefox is not a technical project anymore [22:06] schestowitz__ in fact, there's a hint of that in the official Firefox blog [22:06] schestowitz__ nothing of technical interest there [22:07] schestowitz__ it's just a dying brand they think they can milk forever [22:07] schestowitz__ sad [22:07] schestowitz__ I used to love it [22:08] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation thought it could withstand criticism by simply 'hiding' #zemlin but it is wrong. Look at their management and board. Nobody there gives a damn about Linux. At all. [22:08] baronhk[m] I was always more interested in Gecko being usable outside Mozilla. [22:09] baronhk[m] I thought that giving up on that hurt them the most. People were developing other browsers based on that. Not just browsers. [22:10] techrights-bot Thank you, #zdnet , for reminding me that #microsoft #windows is actually called "LINUX". #boycottzdnet (I omit link to the latest blunder-ous piece) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet [22:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights [22:11] techrights-bot Start developing Arm-based applications quickly using the Oracle Linux Cloud Developer image https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/develop-arm-applications-quickly-using-oracle-linux-cloud-developer-image meanwhile, #IBM is propping up #microsoft #monopoly [22:11] techrights-bot Nowadays even aggressive Oracle speaks more about #linux than #ibm does. #redhat is in trouble. https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/ampere-a1-advanced-tuning [22:12] baronhk[m] Still waiting for the Oracle Linux DVD. [22:12] baronhk[m] Sun sent me a bunch of Solaris stuff. [22:13] baronhk[m] schestowitz Satya Nadella called the Windows Store an "open platform" in the upcoming version. [22:14] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [22:14] baronhk[m] The Linux Subsystem just screams dying company. Everyone who has done this has done it to stem the loss of their own customers, and it never works. [22:15] schestowitz__ yup [22:15] schestowitz__ that. [22:15] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [22:16] *stormchaser3000 (~iansutter@unaffiliated/stormchaser3000) has joined #techrights [22:16] schestowitz__ baronhk[m]: "open" like Windows itself [22:16] schestowitz__ wow, freenode is sooo 'dead'... 94 online [22:16] schestowitz__ I think over a decade ago we had over 100, but because of mibbit [22:16] stormchaser3000 94 people is quite a decent number [22:17] schestowitz__ rasengan: today I saw just a debian dev and fsfe saying they would leave freenode [22:17] schestowitz__ fsfe also help lead the anti-RMS campaign online [22:17] schestowitz__ so no major surprise there [22:17] schestowitz__ all in all just 3 or 4 debian devs wrote about this [22:17] schestowitz__ out of hundreds of planet debian [22:18] schestowitz__ the project itself is not leaving, at least I saw nothing official to that effect [22:19] techrights-bot #suse blog is still a #proprietarySoftware #marketing platform for #sap (where the SUSE CEO comes from, as if she never even left SAP) https://www.suse.com/c/treasure-hunting-or-how-to-have-your-crazy-weekend-not-at-work/ see http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/ [22:20] techrights-bot #Ubuntu supports #Oracle Clown Infrastructure Ampere A1 Compute https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-supports-oracle-cloud-infrastructure-ampere-a1-compute #openstack and stuff... [22:22] techrights-bot Looks like the #techrights #gemini capsule may exceed 150k page requests for this month. There are clearly a lot of people (more over time) who choose #geminiProtocol over #www [22:24] techrights-bot "Has anyone gotten a reverse proxy server working with gemini? Specifically, I'm looking for something that can listen on port 1965 and route encrypted traffic to other ports based on the TLS SNI." Michael Lazar is awesome, did some key work. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006578.html [22:25] techrights-bot "Working on real product. I can put my name in author in the code unlike lengthy copyrights in IBM code. Also, getting a praise from other peers and managers which was not possible in IBM." #ibm #proprietarySoftware #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1yFZJV#replies [22:26] techrights-bot "But I enjoy a lot working here compared to #IBM . Only drawback is I can't fool my seniors by doing only 30% of the actual work. Because everywhere else you will be dealing with actually smart people." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1yFZJV#replies [22:26] techrights-bot "In my previous role in IBM, I was just doing 1 day work in 5 days and still they were feeling I am brilliant and doing a lot of work. That's not possible anywhere. Because tech has grown so much. In #IBM we are still 10-15 years behind." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1yFZJV#replies [22:27] techrights-bot "Why do I now only give 60 percent of my best? I only made a mistake once and showed that I know how to do something that is not my job, to help. After that, it became my job." #redhat #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1e1jQd#replies [22:28] techrights-bot "If and its a big IF, #IBM spins off systems, it will be everything except mainframe. GBS will suck in Mainframe and systems will be no more." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1CiCSx#replies [22:28] *stormchaser3000 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:30] techrights-bot People reporting #ibm #layoffs today. Some say the big wave will come later this week. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b0Flcxl#replies [22:32] techrights-bot Michael Catanzaro: "This is a public service announcement! The modern #SoupSession class is secure by default, but the older, deprecated #SoupSessionSync and SoupSessionAsync subclasses of SoupSession are not." https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2021/05/25/reminder-soupsessionsync-and-soupsessionasync-default-to-no-tls-certificate-verification/ [22:33] techrights-bot Thomas Fitzsimmons: #Excorporate 1.0.0 https://www.fitzsim.org/blog/?p=431 #gnu #freesw [22:34] techrights-bot "There are many resources for network automation with #Ansible . Most of them only expose the first steps or limit themselves to a narrow scope. They give no clue on how to expand from that." #ibm #redhat #vendorLockin https://vincent.bernat.ch/en/blog/2021-network-jerikan-ansible [22:36] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:36] XRevan86 https://libera.chat/news/one-week-of-libera-chat [22:43] techrights-bot Half-Double: A New DRAM #Rowhammer Vulnerability - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Half-Double-DRAM #Phoronix #security | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/05/25/#latest [22:43] techrights-bot #DragonFlyBSD 6.0 Is Performing Very Well Against #Ubuntu Linux, #FreeBSD 13.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151586 #GNU #Linux [22:45] schestowitz__ XRevan86: they post this now because momentum has stagnated [22:45] schestowitz__ a preliminary rush and panic [22:45] schestowitz__ sometimes based on an incomprehension of the situation [22:47] *XRevan86 shrugs and opens https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php [22:48] XRevan86 the detalisation is insufficient, I can't tell if it slows down or not [22:48] schestowitz__ the 'upside', if any, is that we now have more choices [22:48] schestowitz__ we need to stop the fighting [22:48] XRevan86 However, we can tell that it's bigger than Rizon. [22:50] techrights-bot #freenode keeps on going. Don't believe everything people say online. https://netsplit.de/networks/top10.php [22:50] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151588 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:50] techrights-bot #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151587 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:51] schestowitz__ XRevan86: notice I try not to talk about it anymore [22:51] schestowitz__ because it's self-harming [22:51] *schestowitz__ is now known as schestowitz [22:51] XRevan86 "we need to stop the fighting" "I try not to talk about it" :) [22:51] *ChanServ gives channel operator status to schestowitz [22:52] *schestowitz gives voice to TechrightsBot-tr [22:52] schestowitz XRevan86: but do you agree? [22:52] schestowitz I mean, look how much energy was spent on this so far this month... [22:52] schestowitz usually taking away energy from free software coding jobs [22:52] schestowitz some people are not logged in and present in more networks [22:53] XRevan86 https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=Libera.Chat https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode there they are, more detailed statistics [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [22:53] schestowitz maybe a net positive in case one bans you or has technical issues/glitch/maintenance [22:53] schestowitz lol, XRevan86, see "last week" [22:53] schestowitz hardly a change [22:54] schestowitz more servers reported [22:54] schestowitz 44 [22:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: So it didn't even double the initial number. [22:55] techrights-bot #freenode this past week (stable, contrary to false and alarmist narratives in some destructive media) https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=freenode [22:56] XRevan86 that's not that impressive [22:56] XRevan86 https://netsplit.de/networks/statistics.php?net=OFTC not a dent [22:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netsplit.de | NO TITLE [22:57] XRevan86 more channels but barely more people [22:57] schestowitz XRevan86: I would not say "goog" [22:57] schestowitz "good" [22:57] schestowitz notice I barely badmouth libera [22:57] schestowitz they're not an enemy [22:57] schestowitz let's carry ob [22:58] schestowitz *on [22:58] schestowitz and knowing more networks now exist, maybe a 'net gain' at some level for IRC as a protocol [22:58] schestowitz more IRC servers out theres [22:58] schestowitz *there [22:58] schestowitz more people promoting IRC as a comms channel [22:58] schestowitz to spite the likes of "SLACK" and other crap that's all about manipulation and spying ● May 25 [23:00] techrights-bot #Oracle and #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151589 #GNU #Linux [23:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Oracle and IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines [23:03] techrights-bot Shirish Agarwal: Pandemic, Toolkit and India https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/pandemic-toolkit-and-india/ #india #covid19 [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | Pandemic, Toolkit and India Experiences in the community [23:03] techrights-bot #Magit 3.0 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151590 #emacs #gnu #git #TuxMachines [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Magit 3.0 released | Tux Machines [23:04] techrights-bot "The Ubuntu in the wild blog post ropes in the latest highlights about Ubuntu and Canonical around the world on a bi-weekly basis. It is a summary of all the things that made us feel proud to be part of this journey. What do you think of it?" https://ubuntu.com//blog/ubuntu-in-the-wild-09 [23:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu in the wild 25th of May 2021 | Ubuntu [23:08] techrights-bot In terms of #covid19 deaths, the #uk is back where it was last August. In terms of new cases, doesn't look like we'll do better than last summer (any time soon)... maybe in a few years. I expect another lock-down around October. [23:10] techrights-bot "While many countries in the world are hypocrites, including the U.S. none can take the place that India has made for itself in that field." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2021/05/25/pandemic-toolkit-and-india/ [23:12] techrights-bot "This is the last post of the series showing interesting debugging tools, I hope you have found it useful. Dont miss the custom scripts at the bottom to process GStreamer logs, help you highlight the interesting parts and find the root cause of difficult bugs." https://eocanha.org/blog/2021/05/25/gstreamer-webkit-debugging-by-using-external-tools-2-2/ [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-eocanha.org | GStreamer WebKit debugging by using external tools (2/2) Happy coding [23:13] techrights-bot PC/104 boards keep the legacy alive with #Quadro P1000 and Intel Braswell http://linuxgizmos.com/pc-104-boards-keep-the-legacy-alive-with-quadro-p1000-and-intel-braswell/ #LinuxGizmos #Hardware #Devices #GNU #Linux [23:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ http://linuxgizmos.com/pc-104-boards-keep-the-legacy-alive-with-quadro-p1000-and-intel-braswell/ ) [23:14] techrights-bot This isn't for running #microsoft #windows ... a "burning platform" https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Arm-Cortex-X2 [23:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arm Announces The Cortex-X2 Armv9 Flagship CPU, Cortex-A710, Cortex-A510 - Phoronix [23:15] techrights-bot #gnu #linux in #hpc in #europe https://www.fosslife.org/eurohpcs-leonardo-and-lumi-supercomputers-take-shape [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | EuroHPCs Leonardo and Lumi Supercomputers Take Shape [23:15] techrights-bot #GNOME 40s Shell Theme Code Is Rather Expensive But Optimization Pursued http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/151591 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME 40's Shell Theme Code Is Rather Expensive But Optimization Pursued | Tux Machines [23:16] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 73.15 swarm size (avg): 230.47 [23:17] techrights-bot Well, if #intel was genuinely concerned about #security it would disband the ME and stop with all those epic defects in the chips https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-PXP-Off-By-Default [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Protected Xe Path Code Updated, Now Defaults PXP Code To Disabled - Phoronix [23:17] techrights-bot " #CrunchyData is pleased to announce the release of version 4.7 of PGO, the Postgres Operator from Crunchy Data, which automates and simplifies deploying and managing open source #Postgres clusters on #Kubernetes and other Kubernetes-enabled Platforms." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgo-the-crunchy-postgres-operator-47-released-pvc-resize-gcs-advanced-cloning-and-more-2219/ [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGO, the Crunchy Postgres Operator 4.7 Released: PVC Resize, GCS, Advanced Cloning, and more! [23:18] techrights-bot #EasyOS now has a save-file https://bkhome.org/news/202105/easyos-now-has-a-save-file.html #debian #gnu #linux [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | EasyOS now has a save-file [23:20] techrights-bot #KDE DEVLOG 4: Finishing Up the Active Applet Indicator! https://write.as/niccolove/kde-devlog-4-finishing-up-the-active-applet-indicator [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-write.as | KDE DEVLOG 4: Finishing Up the Active Applet Indicator! niccolove [23:21] techrights-bot Let's stop the #irc wars. They bog or slow everything down. People and projects need to get back to work, #programming and testing, coding and building. Not bickering over whose IRC network is more ethical. Let's now inflame this anymore. It's eating us. [23:23] techrights-bot #ibm still failing to find a strategy, except selling off bits of itself. "Not true. No way theyd sell mainframe and systems." [23:23] *Sophist_UK (Sophist-UK@72.82.108.93.rev.vodafone.pt) has joined #techrights [23:23] techrights-bot #ibm still failing to find a strategy, except selling off bits of itself. "Not true. No way theyd sell mainframe and systems." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1CiCSx#replies [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Systems is next NewCo - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:24] techrights-bot "The #IBM #patent process is not worth the pain for the few hundred bucks. If you leave IBM having told nobody about it, the idea is yours!" #swpats #patents #redhat @zoobab https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1e1jQd#replies [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Show everything you know? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:24] *schestowitz gives voice to Sophist_UK [23:25] Sophist_UK Thanks for the voice Roy. [23:27] schestowitz np, and welcome [23:27] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams #Finance Opinion | #JPMorgan Chase Just Became the World's Most Dangerous Bank https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/05/24/jpmorgan-chase-just-became-worlds-most-dangerous-bank [23:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | JPMorgan Chase Just Became the World's Most Dangerous Bank [23:29] techrights-bot ...the 20th and final part of the #epo series about #kangaroocourts will be released in the morning. For some context see part 19 and the index at the top: http://techrights.org/2021/05/25/bets-g121/ [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs War on Justice and Assault on the Law Part 19: Ladies and Gentlemen, Place Your Bets | Techrights [23:29] Sophist_UK Just read your article on the Freenet fuss. [23:30] techrights-bot Lately the #epo wiki page at #techrights have been accessed around 2,000 times per day. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [23:30] schestowitz I hope the fuss is mostly over, Sophist_UK [23:30] schestowitz it's self-harming to us all [23:30] schestowitz people need to get on with work and coding [23:32] Sophist_UK Yes - they do. But they also need to feel safe. They need to trust that the effort they put into creating communities will not get taken from them without a fair process. They need to feel that their private data (like private chats that go through the IRC server) are safe. [23:33] Sophist_UK They need to feel that they won't get chucked off the freenode network due to a personality clash with an op rather than for e.g. serious abuse of others. [23:34] Sophist_UK In other words, they need to feel that the people in power (like sysops) are not going to abuse their position for personal reasons. [23:34] techrights-bot [Links intentionally omitted] latest #billgates strategy, based on 'the news', is to saturate the #corporateMedia (some of which paid-for noise) to get people to forget about the real scandal. I still ask: where's the #cancelGates petition? Is nobody in #github paying any attention? Is RMS the devil to Microsoft GitHub users? [23:34] Sophist_UK And that seems to me to be the crux of this - not a logo. [23:35] MinceR seems to me prawnsalad's account is most credible [23:36] MinceR schestowitz: seems to me the spambot attack is over [23:36] techrights-bot 6,713 people have signed the petition in support of #RMS inside the #FSF board. #freesw [23:36] *MinceR sets mode -q #techrights $~a [23:36] XRevan86 It does look that way. [23:37] schestowitz > They need to feel that their private data (like private chats that go through the IRC server) are safe. [23:37] schestowitz IRC is not for private chats [23:37] XRevan86 MinceR: Have ye ever feard of being attacked by a forebear? [23:37] schestowitz and libera aren't that trustworthy either [23:37] XRevan86 * feared being [23:37] MinceR XRevan86: not really [23:37] schestowitz given how they leaked private DMs to shame rasengan [23:37] MinceR they have a double standard [23:37] schestowitz [23:34] In other words, they need to feel that the people in power (like sysops) are not going to abuse their position for personal reasons. [23:37] schestowitz This is what libera gears up towards [23:37] schestowitz with all their policy changes [23:38] schestowitz that only ADD more grounds for banning [23:38] MinceR what policy changes has libera made? [23:38] schestowitz over political disagreement and -- inter alia -- personal gripes [23:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye mean like Ariadne did? [23:38] schestowitz MinceR: thanks for mod(e) changes [23:38] schestowitz I hope this whole war is mostly over by now [23:39] MinceR np [23:39] *XRevan86 didn't expect this loaf crumbling on Ariadne %) [23:39] schestowitz poor Ariadne [23:39] schestowitz caught up between friends and other friends [23:39] schestowitz peer pressure [23:40] schestowitz don't worry, she's still supportive of most of us [23:40] schestowitz she told me rasengan is well-meaning [23:40] saint_dogbert They aren't good friends then if they are trying to force someone to choose between them and others [23:40] schestowitz iirc, alpine is pushed not towards libera but another network [23:40] *GuySoft has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [23:41] MinceR they decided to move to oftc, afaik [23:41] schestowitz yeah [23:41] XRevan86 "iirc, alpine is pushed not towards libera but another network" ye are in for a treat [23:41] Sophist_UK Roy - when you use IRC for channel, private chats are going to be part of that. You can't just ignore private chats. [23:41] schestowitz even months ago there was talk about it, iirc [23:41] schestowitz Sophist_UK: I don't [23:41] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397273608561508355#m [23:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "@liberachat = good freenode = shitshow" | nitter [23:41] schestowitz but I don't pass things that are sensitive over it [23:41] MinceR four legs good, two legs better! [23:42] Sophist_UK And why do you say that Libera folks are not to be trusted? [23:42] schestowitz XRevan86: another day, another opinion [23:42] schestowitz days ago she rushed to help freenode a bit [23:42] schestowitz and then ripped apart by so-called 'friends' [23:42] schestowitz Sophist_UK: I did not say that [23:43] schestowitz I never mention this by name, except today [23:43] schestowitz I almost never typed their name [23:43] Sophist_UK You said "and libera aren't that trustworthy either" [23:43] schestowitz yes, I did [23:43] schestowitz prior to today I mostly didn't mention them at all [23:43] MinceR Sophist_UK: for one thing, several of their opers signed the anti-RMS letter [23:44] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397313678366715907 I think her position is clear. [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "the experience i want http://shells.com users to have with alpine is none, i don't trust the lee brothers" | nitter [23:44] schestowitz moving from one network to another does not mean privacy [23:44] schestowitz even if they say "Sweden" and stuff [23:44] Sophist_UK So I guess I interpreted Libera (which is not a physical entity to have trust or otherwise) to be a reference to the staff. [23:44] schestowitz that does not mean they lack access to their own servers [23:44] schestowitz also, SWEDEN is BIG on surveillance [23:45] Sophist_UK ANd hence your statement about Libera not being trustworthy translated into their staff not being trustworthy. [23:45] schestowitz XRevan86: I'm no fan of Shells, either [23:45] Sophist_UK DId I misunderstand? [23:45] schestowitz it's not of use to geeks [23:45] schestowitz maybe some beginners, yes... [23:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: She said a bit more there. [23:45] schestowitz lots of paid-for fluff in Linux sites... [23:45] schestowitz inc. today in a podcast [23:45] schestowitz https://destinationlinux.org/episode-227/ [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 227: Interview with Shells.com: Alex Lee & Zlatan Todoric - Destination Linux [23:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://nitter.cc/ariadneconill/status/1397322165251416064 if there's any doubt left. [23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.cc | Ariadne Conill (@ariadneconill): "https://github.com/freenode/web-7.0/pull/516 reads like some trumpian rant written on a toilet at 3 AM, if you're wondering how things are going" | nitter [23:48] schestowitz anyway, let's get back on key topics [23:48] schestowitz instead of using "tweets" as "sources" and Microsoft pages [23:48] XRevan86 oh, the list of staff is updated, neat [23:49] schestowitz I'd rather read news, not "twats" (tweets) [23:49] XRevan86 I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the Head of Staff position is gone completely. [23:50] techrights-bot #ibm #layoffs " I didn't even get a thank you for the work I did." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1b1e1jQd#replies [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Show everything you know? - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:50] schestowitz XRevan86: it's not a corporation [23:50] schestowitz nor should it be managed as such [23:51] schestowitz I never liked titles like "Community Manager" [23:51] MinceR it's a nonprofit organization [23:51] schestowitz charlatans like Jono Bacon [23:51] schestowitz who end up working for Microsoft [23:51] XRevan86 schestowitz: So now it's a country with a President? [23:51] MinceR but it's still a legal person [23:51] XRevan86 I guess that makes more sense. [23:51] schestowitz XRevan86: for 3 years rasengan was very hands-off with the platform [23:51] schestowitz and... even a month ago it was only a dispute about him being locked out [23:51] schestowitz 2fa and dns [23:52] schestowitz it was a dick move by tomaw [23:52] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEmkTEDXoxs [23:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YGOTAS Quotables - Dick Move, Bro! - YouTube [23:53] CrystalMath MinceR: i loved that show back when i was a high school kid [23:53] MinceR CrystalMath: Yu-Gi-Oh: The Abridged Series? [23:53] CrystalMath yes [23:54] CrystalMath the youtube thing by LittleKuriboh [23:54] MinceR :) [23:54] MinceR i didn't realize it has gone on for so long [23:54] CrystalMath yeah, 2006 [23:54] schestowitz Who is Richard Move? [23:54] MinceR :> [23:54] CrystalMath MinceR: youtube was always taking it down [23:54] MinceR indeed [23:54] CrystalMath but i think even now you can find uploads from 2009 [23:54] schestowitz wot? [23:55] schestowitz can't say Richard in GoogleTube? [23:55] schestowitz But can say tube? [23:55] CrystalMath it wasn't google back then [23:55] schestowitz many sexual things are "tubes" [23:55] CrystalMath no it was banned because they don't really recognize the fair use committed by a parody [23:55] schestowitz 1 second only? [23:56] CrystalMath fair use is complicated lawyery stuff, banning is easy [23:56] CrystalMath schestowitz: well YGOTAS was a whole show [23:56] CrystalMath but yeah episodes were a minute or two [23:56] CrystalMath it's an anime parody, possibly the very first one [23:56] MinceR the first Abridged Series [23:58] schestowitz Microsoft Foundation https://finance.yahoo.com/news/green-software-foundation-microsoft-build-linux-github-accenture-150050755.html [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Microsoft, the Linux Foundation, and others team up to make software sustainable [23:59] techrights-bot #Microsoft Foundation, promoting #proprietarysoftware and #monopoly https://finance.yahoo.com/news/green-software-foundation-microsoft-build-linux-github-accenture-150050755.html #linuxfoundation should be banished http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [23:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights