●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, October 25, 2026 ●● ● Oct 25 [00:02] IsambardPrince "Why did you spend $2,000 on an iPhone?" [00:02] IsambardPrince So I could emulate a Macintosh from the 80s with a few kilobytes of RAM and a single digit Mhz processor. [00:02] IsambardPrince "Oh okay, have ya heard....of Sheepshaver?" [00:03] IsambardPrince You know you need a 4K screen that's a few inches to properly do the monochrome display. [00:22] *IsambardPrince has quit (connection closed) [00:22] *IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@cj8ngsfjt7i8a.irc) has joined #techrights [00:28] MinceR i thought sheepshaver could run on x86 [00:28] IsambardPrince MinceR, The Brandon Lobster Effect is in full force on Reddit today. [00:28] IsambardPrince A Chicago man was acquitted by a court for charges of murdering a tranny. [00:29] IsambardPrince There was no real evidence he did it other than "his cell phone was pinged nearby" and "he sent some messages to the tranny asking the tranny to delete texts because he didn't want anyone to find out he fucked a tranny". [00:29] MinceR also, sheepshaver emulates PPC macintoys [00:29] IsambardPrince Which is not enough to prove murder "beyond a reasonable doubt". [00:29] MinceR basilisk II emulates 68k macintoys [00:29] IsambardPrince So now of course all the trannies are on Reddit crying that Americans have a Constitutional Right to a fair trial with due process. [00:29] MinceR (and that also runs on x86) [00:29] IsambardPrince What do they want instead of the courts? [00:30] IsambardPrince A public salvaging from The Handmaid's Tale? [00:30] IsambardPrince But only for people they think might have killed a tranny? [00:30] IsambardPrince It was the middle of the night in a bad neighborhood in Chicago. [00:31] IsambardPrince It's not out on a limb to say there's a lot of ways to end up dead in a gutter in the middle of the night in South Chicago. Especially with the sort of fucked-up lives trannies live. [00:31] IsambardPrince It may or may not have been that defendant that did it but there's no proof that he did do it. [00:31] IsambardPrince And proof is what wins a criminal case. [00:32] IsambardPrince The prosecutor couldn't even establish that it was his cell phone, apparently. [00:32] IsambardPrince So the only thing they took him to court and based the case on was that a phone that might not have been his was in the area and sent text messages. [00:33] IsambardPrince They lost to a guy who had a public defender. [00:33] IsambardPrince I mean, holy shit. [00:50] *Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:54] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], The landlord put a 5 day notice of termination of tenancy on the door of the people downstairs. [00:54] IsambardPrince Over a $113 balance. [00:55] IsambardPrince That's improper service. [00:55] *includeals has quit (Quit: ZNC - https://znc.in) [00:55] IsambardPrince If the landlord files eviction based only on this, that can get it thrown out for improper service. [00:55] IsambardPrince State Law and the RTLO also state that it's important where that $113 came from. [00:55] IsambardPrince If it's administrative fines or late fees, not rent, it's not a basis for eviction. [00:56] IsambardPrince They can evict you for unpaid rent, but not fines and fees. ● Oct 25 [01:01] IsambardPrince Politico: Transunion, a consumer credit reporting agency, found in a 2024 study that 22- to 24-year-olds in Gen Z had higher average credit-card balances, higher average auto-loan balances and higher average personal-loan balances than millennials of the same age a decade earlier, even when adjusted for inflation. Gen Z borrowers also had higher delinquency rates than their millennial counterparts. [01:01] IsambardPrince This gap between the promise that hard work will bring stability and the costs young adults say they cant get ahead of is key to understanding the politics of Gen Z, a voter group that helped President Donald Trump win in 2024, but whose longtime loyalties have yet to be won by either party. [01:02] IsambardPrince Quit putting $2000 iPhones on a credit card. [01:02] IsambardPrince Quit signing for cars you cannot afford with payments that go on for 8 years. Take the bus. [01:03] *includeals (~includeal@2001:8a0:e97c:e700::1c47) has joined #techrights [01:13] *IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:14] nobody there's nothing special nor of historical relevance about them that deserved a designation as GenZ or Millenials [01:15] nobody find myself first peeking at "the young generation", didn't consider myself old before, approaching 45th anniversary this year [01:17] nobody anyway [01:18] nobody > german military announced their new "digital radio system" rollout testing succeeded [01:18] nobody except for the fact the combat vehicle which had to be equipped with it can't be because the gear doesn't fit into slots and bays, they say [01:20] nobody that's the Marder combat tank, which shall be replaced with the newer Puma tank [01:20] nobody well, the former 1970s marder tank qualified combat ready but can't be equipped with NATO digital radio system [01:21] nobody the latter Puma tank reports only a few dozen tanks of 350 were combat ready [01:21] nobody so german military got old battle tanks which are combat ready but cannot be equipped with NATO digital radio system [01:21] nobody and the new battle tanks which can be eqipped digital radio system aren't combat ready [01:23] nobody after two decades of development german military digital radio system alone reported a budget of 20 billion , but it can't be deployed [01:25] nobody with the explantion industry could not fit a gadget the size of a raspberry pi into a battle tank together with a satellite dish and a battery [01:26] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:32] *IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@ue4e3uzxh6xgn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:36] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:50] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights (Error from remote client) [01:53] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:58] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights (Error from remote client) [01:02] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:04] IsambardPrince You can tell who they are immediately. [01:04] IsambardPrince No attention span, blank stare. [01:05] IsambardPrince One of them told me you would only want to use Linux "if you're some sort of criminal". [01:09] MinceR they probably use Linux anyway [01:09] MinceR on their TV, on their router, on their ISP's routers... [01:10] MinceR on the infotainment system of their car [01:10] MinceR fucking criminals. [01:15] IsambardPrince MinceR, I never said he was intelligent. [01:15] IsambardPrince He got a car with no money down, didn't buy gap insurance, and wrecked it. [01:15] IsambardPrince Then his aunt was on gofundme asking other people to pay the deficiency balance on his car loan. [01:16] MinceR :> [01:17] IsambardPrince Not buying GAP insurance on a no money down car loan only works out well for you if you do not have an accident before the car has some equity. [01:17] IsambardPrince Which is basically taking your chances and self-insuring, and he found out what self-insuring means. [01:18] IsambardPrince You are effectively betting the total value of your loan balance against a distracted driver, a slick patch of ice, or your own mistake on the road. [01:18] IsambardPrince If you don't crash, you "saved" $300 to $800 over the life of the loan. If you do crash, you're hit with an instant multi-thousand-dollar bill for a pile of scrap metal you no longer even own. [01:19] IsambardPrince He 'saved' about $600 and then it cost hom over $5500. [01:20] IsambardPrince He had all the latest Apple shit but didn't want to add $10-12 a month to his car loan to avoid a several thousand dollar unhedged risk on top of having no car. [01:20] MinceR lol [01:20] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:21] IsambardPrince Dylan Dondlinger [01:21] IsambardPrince [01:21] IsambardPrince Follow [01:21] IsambardPrince potnodesSrlf9g7agt [01:21] IsambardPrince 4 [01:21] IsambardPrince g [01:21] IsambardPrince u [01:21] IsambardPrince [01:21] IsambardPrince ft4tm0f061lu [01:21] IsambardPrince , [01:21] IsambardPrince [01:21] IsambardPrince [01:21] IsambardPrince e [01:21] MinceR that's beautiful [01:21] IsambardPrince 591 [01:21] MinceR crApple "services" probably also run on linux [01:21] IsambardPrince [01:21] IsambardPrince 11m [01:21] IsambardPrince 2 [01:21] IsambardPrince 2 [01:21] IsambardPrince 926 [01:21] IsambardPrince 1 [01:21] MinceR crApple threw in the towel on servers ages ago [01:21] IsambardPrince t0ia [01:21] IsambardPrince n [01:21] IsambardPrince 3 [01:21] IsambardPrince 6u [01:21] IsambardPrince J [01:21] IsambardPrince [01:21] IsambardPrince Hello everyone, for those of you who dont know; Monday last week I was in a minor accident. I am fine physically but my car is not. The insurance company called me late Friday night to tell me they are going to total it out. They are paying me for the car but unfortunately that's not enough to cover what I owe. I am now without a car and don't have enough on hand for a downpayment. My aunt went out of her way to put together [01:22] IsambardPrince a GoFundMe to help me out. I am so thankful for my family's support during this stressful situation. [01:22] IsambardPrince GoFundMe is not your family supporting you [01:22] IsambardPrince It's your family saying you were an idiot and they aren't bailing you out, but people you barely know should. [01:23] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:24] IsambardPrince MinceR, This falls under the category of a hard lesson. [01:24] MinceR :> [01:24] IsambardPrince That deficiency balance goes to collections, they sue you, it's on your credit report for 7 years. [01:24] IsambardPrince They get interest and then they find something to take eventually. [01:24] IsambardPrince For a car you haven't had in years that got smashed. [01:24] MinceR https://i.redd.it/d02j3g3tmet91.jpg [01:28] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:29] IsambardPrince MinceR, I know I'll be downvoted on Reddit for this. [01:29] IsambardPrince But I mentioned that "surprisingly, in a free country, it's not illegal to dislike transgender people and to use freedom of association to not associate with any". [01:30] IsambardPrince The only way anti-discrimination laws apply are if you can prove that's why someone won't do business with you. [01:30] IsambardPrince Unless they send you an email and say "I didn't hire you because you're a man in lipstick." you probably don't have a case. [01:31] IsambardPrince Basically landlords and employers have this neat thing they do. [01:31] IsambardPrince They put up an Equal Opportunity sign and then they do whatever they want and find a "legal" reason for it. [01:32] IsambardPrince Like "Another applicant for that apartment had a better credit score or higher income." [01:32] IsambardPrince "The other applicant for this job was more qualified. Feel free to apply again." [01:33] IsambardPrince They're very careful to stick to their usual procedures. [01:33] IsambardPrince I had one that said this about bankruptcy... [01:33] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:33] IsambardPrince "If a landlord has a policy that says no bankruptcies for 7 years, and we approve someone who had one six years ago, we could potentially be sued by another applicant where we didn't apply the same understanding." [01:35] IsambardPrince It's difficult to get an apartment in Chicago and a lot of that is that you could get someone who pays their move in fees and lives there the next 9-10 months before you can evict them. [01:35] IsambardPrince The easier it is to evict someone, the faster it is, the more of a risk a landlord will take on an applicant. [01:35] IsambardPrince Democrats are not doing people with risk signals any favors in housing by making evictions difficult. It makes it impossible to find housing. [01:37] IsambardPrince In Cook County there's a pretty thorough process. The tenant can slow you way down. They can drag you into forced mediation even if you don't want to negotiate. [01:38] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [01:39] IsambardPrince MinceR, https://www.facebook.com/reel/1038032562178158 [01:39] TR Bot NO TITLE [01:40] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [01:40] MinceR :) [01:41] IsambardPrince "What if somebody wants theirs well done?" [01:41] IsambardPrince We ask them politely, yet firmly to leave. With great meat comes great responsibility. 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[02:27] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [02:30] IsambardPrince MinceR, I bought some Guinness for the corned beef to cook in. [02:30] IsambardPrince It's not my favorite but it's not bad. [02:31] IsambardPrince Guinness borders on "small beer". [02:34] IsambardPrince Technically small beer is like 2-2.5%. [02:36] IsambardPrince Men drank small beer about a gallon a day while they were out at sea. Fresh water didn't keep very well. [02:45] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights (Error from remote client) [02:46] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. 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[03:11] IsambardPrince Of course there's the Trump Sandwich. [03:11] IsambardPrince White bread, full of boloney, with Russian dressing, and a little pickle. [03:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [03:19] *infecticide has quit (Topeka.KS.US.AccessIRC.Net Vienna.AT.EU.AccessIRC.Net) [03:19] *infecticide (quassel@A0D2877A.653BD565.72CA7C8.IP) has joined #techrights [03:22] IsambardPrince "My dad was a Christian Scientist." [03:22] IsambardPrince Oh yeah, what did he do? [03:22] IsambardPrince "He dissected Archbishops." [03:23] IsambardPrince MinceR, ^ [03:47] TR News Techrights https://techrights.org/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ [03:47] TR Bot Techrights [03:47] TR News Techrights IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 24, 2026 https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/IRC_Proceedings_Saturday_October_24_2026.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/IRC_Proceedings_Saturday_October_24_2026.gmi [03:47] TR Bot Techrights IRC Proceedings: Saturday, October 24, 2026 [03:48] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/23/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/23/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [03:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [03:48] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [03:48] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [03:49] TR News Techrights Over at Tux Machines... https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi [03:49] TR Bot Techrights Over at Tux Machines... ● Oct 25 [04:00] TR News Techrights Microsoft Sort of Tried to Sell XBox Piecewise (Offloading Microsoft) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Microsoft_Sort_of_Tried_to_Sell_XBox_Piecewise_Offloading_Micro.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Microsoft_Sort_of_Tried_to_Sell_XBox_Piecewise_Offloading_Micro.gmi [04:00] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft Sort of Tried to Sell XBox Piecewise (Offloading Microsoft) [04:03] TR News "This isnt quite a shot for shot remake, and all the new material makes it worse, but starting from a fairly high bar means it doesnt get too bad. Its just a completely pointless vanity project." gemini://lab6.com/mlog/2026/10/24/moana/ [04:04] TR News blinds gemini://coldscars.smol.pub/blinds [04:05] IsambardPrince That corned beef was good. [04:05] IsambardPrince I got the perfect amount too. No leftovers. [04:05] TR News OpenBSD Updates gemini://thrig.me/blog/2026/10/25/openbsd-updates.gmi [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] it's all relative [04:05] schestowitz[TR2] you can always eat more [04:06] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D1779.jpg [04:06] TR News [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D2136.jpg [04:07] IsambardPrince I guess what I mean is the right amount to be full but not stuffed. [04:13] TR News Storm Boelo https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/storm-boelo/ [04:13] TR Bot Blog Archive Storm Boelo [04:30] *xwindows (~xwindows@duvpdvsrye3zy.irc) has joined #techrights [04:44] TR News Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part XIV - Six Years of Learning Irish, But the Real Issue Was Microsoft-controlled 'Secure' (Restricted) Boot https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_XIV_Six_Years_of_Learning_Irish.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Intercontinental_Brigading_Part_XIV_Six_Years_of_Learning_Irish.gmi [04:44] TR Bot Techrights Intercontinental Brigading - Part XIV - Six Years of Learning Irish, But the Real Issue Was Microsoft-controlled 'Secure' (Restricted) Boot [04:53] TR News GNU/Linux 17% yesterday https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=os&loc=north-america&filters=deviceType%253DDESKTOP&dateRange=28d [04:53] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://radar.cloudflare.com/explorer?dataSet=http&groupBy=os&loc=north-america&filters=deviceType%253DDESKTOP&dateRange=28d ) [04:54] *IsambardPrince has quit (connection closed) [04:58] *IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@3e8ymunwbkrqi.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 25 [05:17] TR News Techrights PHP2Shell as Paid-for FUD Campaign (Intended to Help Sell Slop and Fake "Market Value" of Slop Pushers) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/PHP2Shell_as_Paid_for_FUD_Campaign_Intended_to_Help_Sell_Slop_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/PHP2Shell_as_Paid_for_FUD_Campaign_Intended_to_Help_Sell_Slop_a.gmi [05:17] TR Bot Techrights PHP2Shell as Paid-for FUD Campaign (Intended to Help Sell Slop and Fake "Market Value" of Slop Pushers) [05:23] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "use search", that is a very clunky workaround, but okay. [05:24] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: On that note: the search page didn't tell how to do a phrase search. [05:24] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: I "guessed" that it required double-quoting the phrase, and it seems to work; [05:24] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: but it will be better to explicitly suggest that as a "Tip" on the search form. [05:25] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: (Because you know, bespoke on-site search syntax differ from websites to websites; it's not that great to make readers guess from trial and error) [05:25] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: Also, what does "Metadata" search type even include? (Title, Author, Contributor, Editor, Date [which format?] etc.) [05:25] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: Is there any reason that Title and Author were not provided as separate types? [05:41] TR News Techrights DST Still Needs to Get Abolished https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/DST_Still_Needs_to_Get_Abolished.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/DST_Still_Needs_to_Get_Abolished.gmi [05:41] TR Bot Techrights DST Still Needs to Get Abolished [05:41] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: There is also bugs in search form: [05:41] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: Basically if I entered one a query on one field, say "Andy Farnell" *with* quotes as Metadata match (without clicking "Search"); [05:41] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: then add another field (by clicking "+"), and put "Vegan" without quotes as another Metadata match (again, without clicking "Search"); [05:41] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: then add another field (by clicking "+"); [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: but then I changed my mind and clicked the "-" button on any field (which one doesn't matter); [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: I would find that it wasn't the just field I clicked "-" at that got removed; [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: every of them would get removed instead-- the search form would be entirely reset, which is quite annoying. [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: . [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: And in the process of confirming the reproducing procedure of this bug, I found another bug: [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: basically if I did the same steps as I described above, [05:42] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: but at the point that "I changed my mind": rather than clicking "-" on the last empty field and run into aforementioned bug... [05:43] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: I clicked "Search" button instead. [05:43] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: I expected that the search engine would simply ignore (or automatically strip out) the last empty field and conduct the search with the remaining two queries; [05:43] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: but no, that did not happen: [05:44] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: It simply returned nothing (not even "Nothing found" message), with the search form completely reset (again); [05:44] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: requring me to re-enter everything, doubling the annoyance. [05:45] *Goblin (~use@kfwqhwq7ax2n4.irc) has joined #techrights [05:49] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: . [05:51] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: Another problem with the search is it seems to insist on HTTPS for some reason. [05:51] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: I believe this problem is due to misconfiguration; but the consequence is real: [05:51] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: Having this problem means anyone who're viewing Techrights on vintage browsers are currently barred from using search function. [05:51] *xwindows tried clicking "Search" on http://techrights.org/ page, and it shown a HTTP 308 redirect page to HTTPS; and when he tried to follow the link in it, Firefox shown error dialog "Firefox can't connect securely to techrights.org because the site uses a security protocol which isn't enabled." [05:51] TR Bot Techrights [05:54] TR News GNU/Linux 9.3% https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/netherlands/#monthly-200902-202610 [05:54] TR Bot Desktop Operating System Market Share Netherlands | Statcounter Global Stats [05:56] schestowitz[TR2] thanks [05:56] schestowitz[TR2] checking now [05:56] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: . [05:57] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "yees, we got some suggestions re mobile", I don't use espionage slab; in my case, the "gemini line ending" problem makes older articles jarring to read on *laptop*. [05:57] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "and without using mactros", it need not be automatic. Manually adding [root-relative] new-part link to existing parts is what people do on webpages, blogs, and forums since forever. [05:57] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "it's hard to update all the previous parts", if the amount of effort is the main problem (especially for longer series); [05:57] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: then instead of beginning an article with a list that link to every other parts like you often do, [05:58] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: a minimal approach of linking to Next/Previous article in series could be used instead. [05:58] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: ^ Which will require [manual] updating of only single previous article in the series, when a new article dropped. ● Oct 25 [06:02] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: And in case of "The Car Drives You" series specifically: [06:02] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: in most articles there, you don't even have to add new text to link the next entry: [06:02] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: Many of them already end with the last paragraph saying "In the next part..."-- that "the next part" should have been a hyperlink to the actual next-part article. [06:07] schestowitz[TR2] schestowitz[TR2]: a minimal approach of linking to Next/Previous article in series could be used instead. [06:07] schestowitz[TR2] this is easier said than done [06:07] schestowitz[TR2] and can require additional db column/field [06:07] TR News Techrights The Netherlands Fast to Adopt GNU/Linux, "Market Share" Rises to Two-Digit Value (on Desktops/Laptops) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/The_Netherlands_Fast_to_Adopt_GNU_Linux_Market_Share_Rises_to_T.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/The_Netherlands_Fast_to_Adopt_GNU_Linux_Market_Share_Rises_to_T.gmi [06:07] TR Bot Techrights The Netherlands Fast to Adopt GNU/Linux, "Market Share" Rises to Two-Digit Value (on Desktops/Laptops) [06:08] xwindows True if you're doing it in SSG; but I'm sugguesting that you do it manually. [06:08] schestowitz[TR2] https://techrights.org/o/2022/01/02/no-control-over-cars/ [06:08] TR Bot Index: Loss of Control Over Cars [06:08] schestowitz[TR2] sometimes you can link to outline or conclusion parts [06:08] schestowitz[TR2] a la http://techrights.org/n/2026/09/23/Linux_Kernel_Becoming_a_Slopfest_Part_8_In_Conclusion.shtml [06:08] TR Bot Techrights Linux Kernel Becoming a Slopfest - Part 8 - In Conclusion [06:08] schestowitz[TR2] if i "do it manually." [06:08] schestowitz[TR2] but I don't [06:08] schestowitz[TR2] and we have bulletins also [06:09] schestowitz[TR2] changing very old pages won't update bulletins [06:09] schestowitz[TR2] in his ssg, pocock does 'tag' pages [06:09] schestowitz[TR2] like tyhis [06:09] schestowitz[TR2] https://danielpocock.com/en/category/edward-brocklesby/ [06:09] TR Bot Edward Brocklesby & Debian [06:09] xwindows "sometimes you can link to outline or conclusion parts", linking to the end is awkward, but yes it works. [06:10] xwindows ^ Though a problem is it only works when the series already ended. [06:10] xwindows "in his ssg, pocock does 'tag' pages", I was about to ask about this too. [06:11] xwindows Since you're doing series-article semi-often now; it might be worth adding "Series" field, and have your SSG track it [and create dedicated index for each series]? [06:12] schestowitz[TR2] that would add bloat [06:12] schestowitz[TR2] and bloat is enemy of sustainability [06:13] xwindows (I think this is less screwy than doing tags, because Tags field usually allow more than one tags-- and that can become a lot more "bloat") [06:14] schestowitz[TR2] alt approach [06:14] xwindows Well, I do think there's tradeoff to be made here; [06:14] schestowitz[TR2] make a sidebar [06:14] schestowitz[TR2] search for each page [06:14] schestowitz[TR2] for rrelated pages [06:14] schestowitz[TR2] and then add them there [06:14] schestowitz[TR2] "offline" [06:15] xwindows That's even more effort and less precise than having explicit single-value Series field in SSG database. [06:16] xwindows Single value series field is O(1) operation; on each article, it either link to series index or not. [06:17] xwindows While search-for-all-realated is O(n) operation; on each article, SSG had to search through entire database, and link to every matches. [06:18] xwindows ^ When doing full rebuild, it will turn into O(n^2) operation; which is just ugh. [06:19] xwindows ^^ Especially when considering the amount of backissues Techrights has in last 2 decades. [06:21] TR News 20 Years Since Finishing My Thesis https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/20-years-since-finishing-my-thesis/ [06:21] TR Bot Blog Archive 20 Years Since Finishing My Thesis [06:21] schestowitz[TR2] lots of bots hammer on the site [06:21] schestowitz[TR2] lime they do on every site [06:21] *xwindows grabs popcorns. [06:21] schestowitz[TR2] so no JIT is acceptable [06:21] schestowitz[TR2] ask for page [06:21] schestowitz[TR2] get page [06:21] schestowitz[TR2] no cpu, just b/w [06:22] schestowitz[TR2] maybe a bit of ram to put the file in the ethernet side [06:22] xwindows Well, I said SSG not CMS; I know that this is static site. [06:22] schestowitz[TR2] doing automated "related" div assume you can mmake sense of the logic [06:23] schestowitz[TR2] and in blogs there is no logic [06:23] schestowitz[TR2] it's bot a book [06:23] schestowitz[TR2] *not [06:24] xwindows Everything I suggested can be done with SSG; especially when you wrote your own SG. [06:25] *xwindows suggested the single-value Series field though, not the search-for-all-related sidebar. [06:32] schestowitz[TR2] i will ask [06:33] schestowitz[TR2] it's involving more people than me [06:39] TR News Blogging in 2026 Still Works OK https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/blogging-in-2026-still-works-ok/ [06:39] TR Bot Blog Archive Blogging in 2026 Still Works OK [06:52] schestowitz[TR2] xwindows: update: [06:53] schestowitz[TR2] " [06:53] schestowitz[TR2] I'll look into it [06:53] schestowitz[TR2] yep it's a bug, pressing the '+' erases all the previous fields [06:53] schestowitz[TR2] " ● Oct 25 [07:00] IsambardPrince I think I'm coming down with something. [07:03] IsambardPrince https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Microsoft_Sort_of_Tried_to_Sell_XBox_Piecewise_Offloading_Micro.shtml [07:03] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft Sort of Tried to Sell XBox Piecewise (Offloading Microsoft) [07:03] IsambardPrince There was a Halo TV series. [07:03] IsambardPrince It was the only passable franchise on the xbox. The only thing that made it stand out from the other consoles. [07:04] IsambardPrince I did not think the xbox was a very well designed console. [07:04] IsambardPrince It was several times bigger and heavier than the Gamecube, over $100 more at launch (significant, especially back then), and didn't have a lot of good games. [07:05] IsambardPrince I played a demo xbox shortly after it was released and the only thing that made an impression on me about it was that the controller was about the size of my Sega Dreamcast, an observation which "Maddox" made on his blog later, unprompted by me. [07:06] IsambardPrince Even the Dreamcast had good games, especially the port of Quake III Arena, which was surprisingly playable over dial-up without lag. [07:07] IsambardPrince Many of the xbox games also suffered from Microsoft's desperation to get anything onto the console at all, including unstable framerates. [07:07] IsambardPrince A problem that also happened on the xbox 360 launch games. [07:08] IsambardPrince John had a revisioned xbox 360 console that didn't overheat so I got on it and played through the GTA V port. He had GTA V on the PS4 but I don't like Playstation controllers. [07:09] IsambardPrince Surprisingly, most of the game fit on the xbox 360 port. I think they had to get rid of the in-car viewpoint and part of the radio stations but it wasn't a bad port considering. [07:09] IsambardPrince The one thing Microsoft did get right about the xbox 360 was the controller, finally. [07:09] IsambardPrince Many video game systems have bad controllers. [07:10] IsambardPrince My two favorite were the xbox 360 and the nintendo gamecube. [07:10] IsambardPrince Sony's bad controller is just the bad controller from the PS1 with analog sticks. [07:14] TR News Yesterday I joined Sacha Chua for a new episode of her Emacs Chat podcast, where we talked about Emacs and life." gopher://gopher.shemshak.org:70/0/~amin/emacs-chat-202605.org [07:14] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [07:14] TR News "I gave a quick tour of my Emacs configuration, discussing at length my configurations for EXWM (Emacs X Window Manager) among other topics like Emacs's facility for visually indicating buffer boundaries in the fringe by setting ~indicate-buffer-boundaries~ and my convenience configuration macros." gopher://gopher.shemshak.org:70/0/~amin/emacs-chat-202605.org [07:15] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@6mnab3uw5dgtk.irc) has joined #techrights [07:15] TR News (NEW): LumaOS Ubuntu-based Linux distribution featuring Niri https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/LumaOS_Ubuntu_based_Linux_distribution_featuring_Niri.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/LumaOS_Ubuntu_based_Linux_distribution_featuring_Niri.gmi [07:15] TR Bot Tux Machines LumaOS Ubuntu-based Linux distribution featuring Niri [07:19] TR News Techrights Gemini Links 25/10/2026: Moana (2026) and OpenBSD Updates https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Gemini_Links_25_10_2026_Moana_2026_and_OpenBSD_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Gemini_Links_25_10_2026_Moana_2026_and_OpenBSD_Updates.gmi [07:19] TR Bot Techrights Gemini Links 25/10/2026: Moana (2026) and OpenBSD Updates [07:20] IsambardPrince I hate DST. I miss being in Indiana when we didn't do that bullshit. [07:20] IsambardPrince From like the 1950s to 2006, we didn't change the clocks, and nothing bad happened from not changing the clocks. [07:21] IsambardPrince Your shows were on at a different time but other than that nothing bad happened. [07:22] IsambardPrince Computer operating systems dealt with it by having an "Indiana" time zone. [07:22] *IsambardPrince has quit (connection closed) [07:23] *IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@2znqcg6k5s92s.irc) has joined #techrights [07:23] TR News (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi [07:23] TR Bot Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Software [07:39] TR News scientists https://theconversation.com/the-17th-century-british-scientists-who-investigated-hauntings-294526 [07:39] TR Bot The 17th-century British scientists who investigated hauntings [07:40] schestowitz[TR2] xwindows: " [07:40] schestowitz[TR2] for now, just hit 'back' as a temporary work-around [07:40] schestowitz[TR2] thanks for spotting the bug [07:40] schestowitz[TR2] (atm that part of the devel machine needs work since I upgrade to Dwevuan freia [07:40] schestowitz[TR2] a while back, I'll figure out an alternative and fix the bug.) [07:40] schestowitz[TR2] " [07:45] TR News Amazon Employee Says She Was Forced to Keep Working With Executive She Accused of Raping Her on a Business Trip https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/amazon-employee-lawsuit-alleged-rape-executive-work-contact-1827204 [07:45] TR Bot Amazon Employee Says She Was Forced to Keep Working With Executive She Accused of Raping Her on a Business Trip | IBTimes UK ● Oct 25 [08:02] TR News Companies House on Late Filing Penalties https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/companies-house-on-late-filing-penalties/ [08:02] TR Bot Blog Archive Companies House on Late Filing Penalties [08:02] TR News Maybe they reckon it's better to pay fines than to allow a critics (or even their clients) see how worse off they really are [08:25] TR News Storm in Manchester United https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/storm-in-manchester-united/ [08:25] TR Bot Blog Archive Storm in Manchester United [08:26] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "for now, just hit 'back' as a temporary work-around", acknowledged. [08:27] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "i will ask", thanks for considering it. [08:30] TR News Russian man linked to deadly NHS contractor hack arrested https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vgr61kml3mo [08:30] TR Bot Russian man linked to deadly London hospitals hack arrested [08:31] TR News Moscow police detain suspected DataSuckers hackers linked to breaches in Ukraine and Russia https://therecord.media/russia-datasuckers-hackers-arrested [08:31] TR Bot Moscow police detain suspected DataSuckers hackers linked to breaches in Ukraine and Russia | The Record from Recorded Future News [08:31] TR News Operation Matryoshka: The Russian bot army pushing fake US election videos https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/operation-matryoshka-the-russian-bot-army-pushing-fake-us-election-videos-20261019-p616jy.html [08:31] TR Bot The Russian bot army pushing fake US election videos [08:32] TR News North Korean workers treated as 'slaves' https://www.dw.com/en/north-korean-workers-treated-as-slaves-at-russian-drone-factory-says-new-report/a-79710877 [08:32] TR Bot N. Korean workers treated as 'slaves' at Russian drone plant [08:38] TR News U.S. control over Starlink = same problem with adopting GAFAM https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/satellite-us-government-starlink-starshield-9.7383834 [08:38] TR Bot Why Canadian Starlink subscribers (probably) shouldn't worry about U.S interference | CBC News [08:39] TR News GAFAM Europe https://fsfe.org/news/podcast/2026/episode-57.en.html [08:39] TR Bot SFP#57: Policy and EU: Why everyone should care about procurement! - FSFE [08:39] TR News Social Control Media https://cphpost.dk/2026-10-19/news/round-up/study-finds-misogynistic-tiktok-content-can-appear-within-minutes/ [08:39] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://cphpost.dk/2026-10-19/news/round-up/study-finds-misogynistic-tiktok-content-can-appear-within-minutes/ ) [08:41] TR News Planet Database https://xkcd.com/3311/ [08:41] TR Bot Planet Database [08:41] TR News Momentum Demonstration https://xkcd.com/3312/ [08:41] TR Bot Momentum Demonstration [08:41] TR News Distribution Release: Essora Eos 20261021 https://distrowatch.com/12999 [08:41] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/12999 ) [08:42] TR News Fusion Device https://xkcd.com/3313/ [08:42] TR Bot Fusion Device [08:42] TR News Vulnerability https://xkcd.com/3314/ [08:42] TR Bot Vulnerability [08:43] TR News Release Notes for siduction 2026.1.0 Big Crime https://siduction.org/2026/10/release-notes-for-siduction-2026-1-0-big-crime/ [08:43] TR Bot Making sure you're not a bot! [08:44] TR News BSD Release: OpenBSD 8.0 https://distrowatch.com/12997 [08:44] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/12997 ) [08:45] TR News (NEW): Debian-Based siduction 2026.1 Big Crime Released with Linux 7.2, KDE Plasma 6.7 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Debian_Based_siduction_2026_1_Big_Crime_Released_with_Linux_7_2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/21/Debian_Based_siduction_2026_1_Big_Crime_Released_with_Linux_7_2.gmi [08:45] TR Bot Tux Machines Debian-Based siduction 2026.1 Big Crime Released with Linux 7.2, KDE Plasma 6.7 [08:45] TR News (NEW): This is the only Linux distro that's worth running on your smartphone https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/This_is_the_only_Linux_distro_that_s_worth_running_on_your_smar.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/This_is_the_only_Linux_distro_that_s_worth_running_on_your_smar.gmi [08:45] TR Bot Tux Machines This is the only Linux distro that's worth running on your smartphone [08:46] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:47] TR News (NEW): Can CobaltX beat Bazzite? I put this new Linux gaming distro to the test https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Can_CobaltX_beat_Bazzite_I_put_this_new_Linux_gaming_distro_to_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Can_CobaltX_beat_Bazzite_I_put_this_new_Linux_gaming_distro_to_.gmi [08:47] TR Bot Tux Machines Can CobaltX beat Bazzite? I put this new Linux gaming distro to the test [08:50] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@6mnab3uw5dgtk.irc) has joined #techrights [08:50] TR News (NEW): These Linux distros claim to be open source, but they're barely even close https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/These_Linux_distros_claim_to_be_open_source_but_they_re_barely_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/These_Linux_distros_claim_to_be_open_source_but_they_re_barely_.gmi [08:50] TR Bot Tux Machines These Linux distros claim to be open source, but they're barely even close [08:53] *Disconnected (Remote host closed socket). [08:56] *Now talking on #techrights ● Oct 25 [09:05] TR News (NEW): Asmi Linux 26.10 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Asmi_Linux_26_10.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Asmi_Linux_26_10.gmi [09:05] TR Bot Tux Machines Asmi Linux 26.10 [09:05] *IsambardPrince has quit (Quit: Leaving) [09:08] TR News "Xbox Project Helix" = vapourware and distraction from XBox going away [09:22] TR News ZimaOS 1.8.0 is out but outsourced to Microsoft, which is "meh" [09:22] TR News (NEW): Synex Semi-rolling 26.10.17: COSMIC 1.10.0 available and refreshed images https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Synex_Semi_rolling_26_10_17_COSMIC_1_10_0_available_and_refresh.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Synex_Semi_rolling_26_10_17_COSMIC_1_10_0_available_and_refresh.gmi [09:22] TR Bot Tux Machines Synex Semi-rolling 26.10.17: COSMIC 1.10.0 available and refreshed images [09:24] TR News Security flaws behind Danish website shutdowns were discovered two months earlier https://cphpost.dk/2026-10-22/global/security-flaws-behind-danish-website-shutdowns-were-discovered-two-months-earlier/ [09:24] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://cphpost.dk/2026-10-22/global/security-flaws-behind-danish-website-shutdowns-were-discovered-two-months-earlier/ ) [09:24] TR News Dutch cybersecurity firm warns of rising data requests from prosecutors https://nltimes.nl/2026/10/21/dutch-cybersecurity-firm-warns-rising-data-requests-prosecutors [09:24] TR Bot Dutch cybersecurity firm warns of rising data requests from prosecutors | NL Times [09:32] TR News Microsoft https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/france-fridge-hack-smart-devices-food-system-9.7379613 http://techrights.org/n/2026/10/16/Fridges_Do_Not_Need_an_Internet_Connection.shtml [09:32] TR Bot A fridge hack spoiled food in hundreds of French supermarkets. Cybersecurity experts say it's a wake-up call | CBC News [09:32] TR Bot Techrights Fridges Do Not Need an Internet Connection [09:33] TR News copyright http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2026/10/an-ordinary-copyright-case-on-limits-of.html [09:33] TR Bot An ordinary copyright case on the limits of fair use for non-generative AI-powered search engines [09:33] TR News Anthropic sued by major Canadian news publishers for copyright claims in Ontario court https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/anthropic-postmedia-torstar-globe-canadian-press-copyright-lawsuit-9.7387205 [09:33] TR Bot Anthropic sued by major Canadian news publishers for copyright claims in Ontario court | CBC News [09:34] TR News taken offline https://nltimes.nl/2026/10/21/dutch-parliament-website-taken-offline-cybersecurity-warning-triggers-precautions [09:34] TR Bot Dutch parliament website taken offline as cybersecurity warning triggers precautions | NL Times [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] xwindows: " [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] I think the bug reported in the search is now fixed. Please double-check. [09:35] schestowitz[TR2] " [09:49] TR News Alpine 3.21.9, 3.22.7, 3.23.7 and 3.24.3 released https://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.21.9-3.22.7-3.23.7-3.24.3-released.html [09:49] TR Bot Alpine 3.21.9, 3.22.7, 3.23.7 and 3.24.3 released | Alpine Linux [09:49] TR News Firebird can now be built with CMake + Clang on Windows, Linux and macOS (PR #9111 merged) https://mapopa.blogspot.com/2026/10/firebird-can-now-be-built-with-cmake.html [09:49] TR Bot Mariuz's Blog: Firebird can now be built with CMake + Clang on Windows, Linux and macOS (PR #9111 merged) [09:51] TR News Simon de Vlieger: Introducing TeamSBC Linux https://supakeen.com/weblog/introducing-teamsbc-linux/ [09:51] TR Bot TeamSBC Linux | supakeen's homepage [09:52] TR News Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (42/2026): Divine D MVP + Plasma turning 6.8 and also 30 https://linmob.net/weekly-update-42-2026/ [09:52] TR Bot - Weekly GNU-like Mobile Linux Update (42/2026): Divine D MVP + Plasma turning 6.8 and also 30 [09:53] TR News Fedora Magazine: Join us for the Fedora Linux 45 Release Party! https://fedoramagazine.org/join-us-for-the-fedora-linux-45-release-party/ [09:53] TR Bot Join us for the Fedora Linux 45 Release Party! - Fedora Magazine [09:54] TR News Linux Boot Sequence: From Power-On to Login Prompt [Under the Hood] http://www.unixshadow.com/2026/10/16/linux-boot-sequence-from-power-on-to-login-prompt-infographic/ migrating... [09:54] TR Bot ( status 503 @ https://www.unixshadow.com/2026/10/16/linux-boot-sequence-from-power-on-to-login-prompt-infographic/ ) ● Oct 25 [10:09] TR News Techrights It's Slop https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/It_s_Slop.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/It_s_Slop.gmi [10:09] TR Bot Techrights It's Slop [10:14] schestowitz[TR2] strike one [10:16] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: "Please double-check", okay, the field deletion and blank field handling seem to be okay now. [10:17] xwindows schestowitz[TR2]: The search form still insists on HTTPS though. [10:21] TR News "the LLM cult, and it is a cult, is selling FOMO, nothing more" [10:22] TR News Cults versus security https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bmo-ai-warning-9.7390171 [10:22] TR Bot BMO CEO says don't give AI agents your banking info | CBC News [10:23] TR News Bank fraud victims ask: Why aren't Canadian banks held more liable? https://www.cbc.ca/news/gopublic/bank-fraud-legislation-9.7382518 [10:23] TR Bot Bank fraud victims want Ottawa to make big banks pay more | CBC News [10:26] TR News Judge Newman Suspension Matter Transferred to 11th Circuit https://patentdocs.org/2026/10/15/judge-newman-suspension-matter-transferred-to-11th-circuit/ [10:26] TR Bot Judge Newman Suspension Matter Transferred to 11th Circuit Patent Docs [10:26] TR News Velcro patented by 1954 https://maketecheasier.com/velcro-burdock-burrs-de-mestral-patent/ [10:26] TR Bot Swiss engineer George de Mestral came home from a hunting trip in 1941 with burdock burrs stuck to his trousers and his dog's fur, put them under a microscope, saw tiny hooks, and had Velcro patented by 1954. - Make Tech Easier [10:27] TR News patent for the modern stud and tube LEGO brick https://maketecheasier.com/lego-brick-patent-1958-copenhagen/ [10:27] TR Bot The patent for the modern stud and tube LEGO brick was filed at 1:58 pm on 28 January 1958 in Copenhagen. LEGO says bricks made 60 years apart still clip together, and six 2x4 bricks combine in more than 915 million ways. - Make Tech Easier [10:29] TR News "This is the problem with remote attestation. The free software foundation has been talking about this endpoint since the late 2000s." https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50222569 [10:29] TR Bot So it's not open source. | Hacker News [10:29] TR News "Richard Stallman has been talking about this since the 80s. One of the most famous and relevant examples of this is "The Right to Read"[0], from 1997. 0 - https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html" [10:29] TR Bot timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.en.html ) [10:30] TR News "The fact that GrapheneOS digitally signs their releases doesn't make them not open source. This is indeed a bad situation, but the badness is 100% the fault of Google for having a hardware attestation "feature"." [10:30] TR News "Banks are increasingly adding checks for Google certified devices. In the EU, there are regulations requiring banks to start verifying device integrity. It's headed that way worldwide with a growing number of regulations and industry standards requiring it." Like Sompi noted. [10:31] TR News "If it's impossible build the binary from the source you've been given, then you haven't been given the source. The binary in question is one that passes attestation and secure boot. If I don't have the key, I don't have the source." [10:31] TR News "MIT allows this (you not giving me the source). GPL2 allows this in some jurisdictions - notably, not in Germany. GPL3 absolutely doesn't, which is the reason Google refuses GPL3 upstreams." [10:32] TR News "I don't know why some of my comments are being shadowbanned. It might be an AI filter gone awry." No. https://techrights.org/n/2025/12/10/Y_Combinator_YC_Funds_Scams_Run_by_Scammers.shtml [10:32] TR Bot Techrights Y Combinator (YC) Funds Scams, Run by Scammers [10:34] TR News "Around 10% of banking apps are unavailable due to banning using a non-Google-approved OS. Around a dozen banking apps began specifically permitting GrapheneOS in addition to a Google-approved OS which is growing." https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117492375462459244 [10:34] TR Bot GrapheneOS: "@maya@gs.lexinova.eu @OmegaPolice@hachyderm.io @b" - GrapheneOS Mastodon ● Oct 25 [11:15] schestowitz[TR2] x-amarsh04: " [11:15] schestowitz[TR2] Of course. That won't change. [11:15] schestowitz[TR2] We'd sign our own TLS certs, too, if it were allowed by any of the browsers." [11:15] schestowitz[TR2] oops, xwindows ^ [11:31] TR News (NEW): SparkyOS: Lightweight general-purpose Arch, on a pendrive https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/SparkyOS_Lightweight_general_purpose_Arch_on_a_pendrive.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/SparkyOS_Lightweight_general_purpose_Arch_on_a_pendrive.gmi [11:31] TR Bot Tux Machines SparkyOS: Lightweight general-purpose Arch, on a pendrive [11:35] TR News "The owners of Elvis Presleys music have sued AI company Anthropic, accusing them of training their models on Presleys music without permission." https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/elvis-presley-rightsholders-anthropic-lawsuit-infringement-1235647682/ | Source: Rolling Stone [11:35] TR Bot Elvis Presley Rightsholders Sue Anthropic for Training on 274 Songs [11:35] TR News "The new lawsuit, filed Friday (Oct. 23) and first reported by Billboard, claims that Anthropic, the tech behemoth behind Claude, infringed 274 of the rock legends copyrighted songs" https://www.billboard.com/pro/elvis-presley-estate-sues-suno-anthropic/ | Source: Penske Media Corporation [11:35] TR Bot Elvis Presley AI Lawsuit: Anthropic Sued For Stealing His Music [11:36] TR News "On the map, blue dots are cities with public Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) and purple dots are cities that only announce BGP IP space." https://kmcd.dev/posts/living-closer-to-the-internet/ | Source: Kevin McDonald [11:36] TR Bot Living Closer to the Internet [11:36] TR News "The Web isnt dying, but it is being distanced from us." https://doc.searls.com/2026/10/23/the-fossil-present/ | Source: Doc Searls [11:36] TR Bot The Fossil Present Doc Searls Weblog [11:40] *ewig (~Ewig@user/ewig) has joined #techrights [11:51] TR News "Every so often, I get a message on X or LinkedIn from someone in Silicon Valley who wants me to know that they quietly agree with me." https://www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/the-thing-about-cowardice | Source: Mike Brock [11:51] TR Bot The Thing About Cowardice - by Mike Brock [11:52] TR News "According to the project, a Russian bot network called Matryoshka is spreading the videos." https://meduza.io/en/feature/2026/10/23/for-weeks-deepfake-celebrities-have-been-telling-americans-not-to-vote-for-democrats-in-the-midterm-elections-u-s-intelligence-says-russia-is-behind-it | Source: Meduza [11:52] TR Bot For weeks, deepfake celebrities have been telling Americans not to vote for Democrats in the midterm elections. U.S. intelligence says Russia is behind it. Meduza [11:52] TR News (NEW): You might be using the wrong distro in your Linux VM. These are the only 3 worth spinning up https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/You_might_be_using_the_wrong_distro_in_your_Linux_VM_These_are_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/You_might_be_using_the_wrong_distro_in_your_Linux_VM_These_are_.gmi [11:52] TR Bot Tux Machines You might be using the wrong distro in your Linux VM. These are the only 3 worth spinning up [11:53] TR News "You need to think of Larry Ellison the way you think of a lawnmower." https://www.seangoedecke.com/dont-anthropomorphize-big-tech-companies/ | Source: Sean Goedecke [11:53] TR Bot Don't anthropomorphize big tech companies [11:54] TR News "Last week I joined Joe Plenzler on the Meidas Defense podcast to talk about [cryptocurrency]." https://www.citationneeded.news/meidas-defense-interview/ | Source: Molly White [11:54] TR Bot On Meidas Defense: cryptocurrency, sanctions, and Trump quid pro quo [11:54] TR News (NEW): Raspberry Pi Desktop proves old PCs aren't past it https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Raspberry_Pi_Desktop_proves_old_PCs_aren_t_past_it.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Raspberry_Pi_Desktop_proves_old_PCs_aren_t_past_it.gmi [11:54] TR Bot Tux Machines Raspberry Pi Desktop proves old PCs aren't past it [11:55] TR News "As it turned out, Caddy's repository had exhausted its 4.9 TB monthly bandwidth allowance." https://michaelreflects.com/blog/the-day-caddy-stood-still/ | Source: Michael Mitchell [11:55] TR Bot The Day Caddy Stood Still | Michaels Journal [11:59] TR News "I think its an important graphic because it does make us confront that the demand curve for crude oil isnt vertical." https://freerangestats.info/blog/2026/10/25/price-elasticity-oil | Source: Free Range Statistics [11:59] TR Bot Price elasticity of demand for crude oil ● Oct 25 [12:00] TR News [Old] "Here are the three weirdest things I found." https://kaba.cx/posts/20260921_Honeypot/ | Source: Kaba [12:00] TR Bot 3 Weird Things in My Honeypot Logs - KABA [12:01] TR News "Northern Virginia is laden with structures that house data for Fortune 500 companies. I went inside just one of those monstrosities that bothers its neighbors." https://www.thenation.com/article/society/inside-a-data-center-hyperscale/ | Source: The Nation [12:01] TR Bot Whats It Like Inside a Data Center? | The Nation [12:02] TR News "Bill Gates" https://www.tmz.com/2026/10/24/jeffrey-epstein-conned-powerful-men-with-private-jets-money/ | Source: TMZ http://techrights.org/n/2026/01/30/The_Epstein_Files_Don_t_Say_the_Ages_of_Those_Russian_Girls_Bil.shtml [12:02] TR Bot Jeffrey Epstein Used Private Jets, Money to Con Rich, Powerful Men [12:02] TR Bot Techrights The Epstein Files Don't Say the Ages of Those "Russian Girls" Bill Epsteingate Exploited [12:02] TR News "The US Constitution bars foreign-born individuals from the presidency" https://thewalrus.ca/billionaire-nerds-want-to-end-democracy/ | Source: The Walrus [12:02] TR Bot Billionaire Nerds Want to End Democracy | The Walrus [12:02] TR News "He is the father of a small but powerful sect that pursues these extremist, antidemocratic ideas in Silicon Valley" https://english.elpais.com/technology/2026-10-25/peter-thiel-the-tech-oligarch-who-believes-in-the-antichrist.html | Source: El Pas [12:02] TR Bot Peter Thiel, the tech oligarch who believes in the Antichrist | Technology | EL PAS English [12:03] TR News "Kyiv relies on the civilian Starlink satellite communications system and the military-grade Starshield version" https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/ukraine-has-stable-connection-to-starlink-govt-457950472 | Source: RTL [12:03] TR Bot Service re-established: Musk accuses Ukraine of violating Starlink's terms of service - RTL Today [12:03] TR News "Musk's admission on social media came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said that Ukraine's access to Starlink and Starshield satellite links has been restored to the speeds it had before restrictions that disrupted front-line operations for more than a week." https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ukraine-starlink-satellite-restored-9.7394719 | Source: CBC [12:03] TR Bot Musk says he was behind Starlink speed restriction in Ukraine | CBC News [12:04] TR News "Earlier this week, a New Mexico judge ordered Meta to pay a $25 billion fine for violating consumer protection laws dating back to the Cambridge Analytica scandal." https://www.wired.com/story/how-many-billions-would-it-take-to-hold-meta-accountable/ | Source: Wired [12:04] TR Bot Many Billions Would It Take to Hold Meta Accountable? | WIRED [12:05] TR News "The solution I came up with builds on ChromeOS VMs and Yubikeys: [...]" https://aldur.blog/articles/2026/10/24/single-app-vms-in-chromeos | [12:05] TR Bot A poor mans Qubes OS | Universal Bits [12:08] TR News "If youre setting up Cloudflare, or someone else set it up" https://jamie.ideasasylum.com/2026/10/24/how-to-secure-your-cloudflare-install | Source: Jamie Lawrence [12:08] TR Bot How to secure your Cloudflare install (or other WAF) | Jamies blog [12:09] TR News "That last claim is wrong on both counts." https://captnemo.in/blog/2026/10/23/emsign-revoked-gov-in/ | [12:09] TR Bot Indian government sites are serving revoked eMudhra certificates Nemo's Home [12:09] TR News "Oh and the claims of it being exploited in the wild? At time of writing, theyre referring to exploitation attempts" https://blog.luitjes.it/posts/i-want-my-wednesday-back/ | [12:09] TR Bot I want my Wednesday back [12:10] TR News "The judge also issued a warning against intimidation" https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cornell-rape-lawsuit-accuser-remain-anonymous-1827602 | Source: International Business Times [12:10] TR Bot Judge Rules Cornell 'Jane Doe' Can Use Pseudonym in Suit Over Alleged Gang-Rape Amid Harassment | IBTimes UK [12:10] TR News "I don't know if you've heard this about me, but I kind of love data." https://birchtree.me/blog/boost-more-cool-shit/ | Source: Matt Birchler [12:10] TR Bot Boost more cool shit [12:12] TR News "GoComics has tightened its anti-scraping protections, presumably to defend against AI slop factories" https://blog.kamens.us/2026/10/23/new-comics-more-available-comics-removed-comics-broken-comics/ | Source: Jonathan Kamens [12:12] TR Bot New comics, more available comics, removed comics, broken comics Something better to do [12:12] TR News "Up until very recently software got created in groups." https://blog.julik.nl/2026/10/thanks-but-i-prefer-it-my-way | Source: Julik Tarkhanov [12:12] TR Bot Thank you, but I prefer it my way - Julik Tarkhanov [12:12] TR News "Theres now a growing sense, both within AI companies and among their critics, that alignment as its been practiced over the past four years is falteringif it was ever really up to the task." https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/10/false-promise-of-safe-ai/689114/ | Source: The Atlantic [12:12] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/10/false-promise-of-safe-ai/689114/ ) [12:13] TR News "Systemd actually has tonnes of interesting features, that I think are even more useful for running throwaway agent-written code." https://martinalderson.com/posts/interesting-systemd-features/ | Source: Martin Alderson [12:13] TR Bot Interesting systemd features you may not know about - Martin Alderson [12:13] TR News "The Nintendo DSi was released in November 2008, and boasted a new feature not formerly seen on the brands handheldsit had two cameras, inside and outside." https://hackaday.com/2026/10/24/remembering-the-weirdest-nintendo-dsi-accessory/ | Source: Hackaday [12:13] TR Bot The Weirdest Nintendo DSi Accessory | Hackaday [12:13] TR News "The comments came after the disruption in the countrys satellite service. Earlier, Ukraine said drones using Starshield, the Pentagon-funded service, were back to normal speeds." https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/24/world/europe/ukraine-starshield-drone-speed.html | Source: New York Times [12:13] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/24/world/europe/ukraine-starshield-drone-speed.html ) [12:15] TR News "Minimalism is not relevant in a life where scarcity is its defining feature." https://protesilaos.com/commentary/2026-10-23-importance-minimalism/ | Source: Protesilaos Stavrou [12:15] TR Bot the importance of minimalism | Protesilaos [12:16] TR News "Even though laptops from around the early 2000s came with just about every conceivable port on them" https://hackaday.com/2026/10/24/that-weird-7-pin-s-video-port-on-old-laptops/ | Source: Hackaday [12:16] TR Bot Weird 7-Pin S-Video Port On Old Laptops | Hackaday [12:16] TR News "Even though I have a digital copy, I owned this one in paperback format, and decided to go with the analog experience!" https://joelchrono.xyz/blog/the-physical-book-experience/ | Source: Joel Chrono [12:16] TR Bot The physical book experience [12:17] TR News "This process is an involution: the polar of the polar of a triangle is the original triangle" https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2026/10/24/computing-polar-triangles/ | Source: John D Cook [12:17] TR Bot Computing polar triangles with linear algebra [12:18] TR News "But thats just one of two laws of cosines on a sphere." https://www.johndcook.com/blog/2026/10/24/polar-triangle/ | Source: John D Cook [12:18] TR Bot Duality in spherical trigonometry [12:19] TR News "Blogs and the web remain the best community I have found, even if there are many challenging, frustrating parts to making blogging work" https://json.blog/2026/10/24/blogs-and-the-web-remain | Source: Jason Becker [12:19] TR Bot Another short, tiresome post about the web [12:20] TR News "JPEG XL (.jxl) is a next-generation, free and open-source image format defined by ISO/IEC 18181." https://www.seroundtable.com/google-jpeg-xl-42352.html | Source: Search Engine Roundtable [12:20] TR Bot Google Image Search & Google Discover Do Not Support JPEG XL Image Format [12:20] TR News "I fell into the classic trap: I thought I knew how a thing works." https://hamatti.org/posts/assumptions-are-sneaky/ | Source: Juha-Matti Santala [12:20] TR Bot Assumptions are sneaky : Juha-Matti Santala [12:20] TR News "A flaky is a automated test in software development that seemingly non-deterministically fails." https://hamatti.org/posts/debugging-a-flaky-test-how-i-methodologically-tamed-an-annoying-bug/ | Source: Juha-Matti Santala [12:20] TR Bot Debugging a flaky test how I methodologically tamed an annoying bug : Juha-Matti Santala [12:22] MinceR 25 041140 < IsambardPrince> White bread, full of boloney, with Russian dressing, and a little pickle. [12:22] MinceR lol [12:22] MinceR 25 042256 < IsambardPrince> "He dissected Archbishops." [12:22] TR News "Fast, Friendly, Functional" https://rtfeldman.com/fp-vs-c | Source: R T Feldman [12:22] TR Bot How close can pure FP get to C? [12:22] MinceR also lol [12:23] TR News worst [12:23] TR News "After my post on undefined behavior in C some people insisted that its demonstrably fine, we know what the code will do, and at worst well get a segfault." https://blog.habets.se/2026/10/Attention-people-who-think-UB-is-fine.html | Source: Thomas Habets [12:23] TR Bot Attention people who think UB is fine [12:26] MinceR another day, another rant about how C has undefined behavior by a rabid fan of a language (rust) that is _entirely_ undefined [12:27] MinceR thanks, idiot, but i'll stick to languages that have a spec [12:30] TR News "This means that some combinations of operators no longer have a defined precedence, and for those that dont, the compiler will now require parentheses: [...]" https://ziglang.org/devlog/2026/#2026-10-24 | Source: Zig [12:30] TR Bot Devlog Zig Programming Language [12:30] TR News "A common way to use the venerable sed is to use its 's/regexp/replacement/' operation to modify the text of lines as they pass through (both to change parts of the line and to delete parts)." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/unix/SedRareBackslashReplace | Source: University of Toronto [12:30] TR Bot You're using a too-old browser [12:30] TR News "There is, however, a different standard that fixes a lot of these problems: PASETO." https://lindbakk.com/blog/introducing-gaseto | Source: John Mikael Lindbakk [12:30] TR Bot Gaseto John M. Lindbakk [12:31] TR News "Many partial exploits have been released. Be careful; some of them may be "parasitic," trying to exploit whoever runs them. It may be hard to even identify the working exploit once it comes out." https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/33450 | Source: SANS [12:31] TR Bot PHP Vulnerability Wrap-Up - SANS Internet Storm Center [12:32] TR News "So, at Akademy this year I had my own very first BoF around this topic." https://akselmo.dev/posts/akademy-2026-desktop-icon-bof/ | Source: Akseli Lahtinen [12:32] TR Bot Akademy 2026 Desktop Icon BoF | AksDev [12:35] TR News "Ive been using Pure Blog for a while now and I absolutely love its simplicity and speed." https://j11g.com/migrating-wordpress-embeds-to-pureblog-hooks | Source: Jan van den Berg [12:35] TR Bot Using hooks in Pure Blog and migrating YouTube embeds - Jan van den Berg [12:35] TR News "In September 2014 I published a short post announcing rqlite" https://philipotoole.com/twelve-years-of-distributed-sqlite/ | [12:35] TR Bot Twelve years of distributed SQLite Philip O'Toole [12:36] TR News I shut down my web servers on Thursday. Ive had a home of my own on internet for 27 years. A good innings but a sad day. [12:36] TR News "I shut down my web servers on Thursday. Ive had a home of my own on internet for 27 years. A good innings but a sad day." https://interconnected.org/home/2026/10/24/bunker | Source: Matt Webb [12:36] TR Bot Bunkering down (Interconnected) [12:38] TR News "Next Thursday, I'm going to be chatting with linkarzu about Emacs and life." https://sachachua.com/blog/2026/10/upcoming-chat-with-linkarzu-about-using-emacs-for-25-years/ | Source: Sacha Chua [12:38] TR Bot Upcoming chat with linkarzu about using Emacs for 25 years :: Sacha Chua [12:39] TR News "Ive been slowly turning my Emacs config into something I actually enjoy using, not just something that works" https://jointhefreeworld.org/blog/articles/emacs/emacs-folding-kirigami/index.html | Source: Josep Bigorra [12:39] TR Bot Emacs finally folds to my liking - jointhefreeworld [12:39] TR News "Every mode had its own idea of what folding is: treesit-fold in Tree-sitter modes, Hideshow in the Lisp-ish ones" https://jointhefreeworld.org/blog/articles/emacs/emacs-folding-kirigami/ | Source: Josep Bigorra [12:39] TR Bot Emacs finally folds to my liking - jointhefreeworld [12:41] TR News "He did the schematics, the laser cutting of the wood and of the acrylic, as well as the assembly." https://hacdias.com/2026/10/24/vinyl-shelf/ | Source: Henrique Dias [12:41] TR Bot Our Records Know When They're Played - Henrique Dias [12:42] TR News "Its a machine rocking a 40W CO2 laser. Its capable but it isnt without its flaws." https://ciesie.com/project/k40_laser/ | Source: Micha Ciesielski [12:42] TR Bot K40 is an ugly duckling [12:43] TR News "Blender has a built-in Python environment. That means that you can use any Python module. In this case Ive used the pyserial library to communicate with the Arduino." https://ciesie.com/project/blender_three_knobs_controller/ | Source: Micha Ciesielski [12:43] TR Bot Blender analog controller [12:43] TR News "The secret is twofold: one is the antenna, a parabolic unit that captures far more than the dinky dipole in your phone." https://hackaday.com/2026/10/24/pushing-bluetooth-out-to-12-kilometers/ | Source: Hackaday [12:43] TR Bot Bluetooth Out To 12 Kilometers | Hackaday [12:46] TR News "Meatloaf is an ESP32 device at its core, which plugs in to any of several Commodore computers through their IEC serial port." https://hackaday.com/2026/10/24/2026-retrocomputing-challenge-i-would-do-anything-for-serial-data/ | Source: Hackaday [12:46] TR Bot Retrocomputing Challenge: I Would Do Anything For Serial Data | Hackaday [12:50] TR News "Please note that packages installed outside Gentoo package manager are also affected." https://www.gentoo.org/news/2026/10/24/emudhra-intermediate-ca-compromise.html | Source: Gentoo [12:50] TR Bot eMudhra Intermediate CA Compromise Gentoo Linux [12:50] TR News "So we ditched it. We introduced flat, material UI. Lesser digital shadows and more shape uniformity." https://abhi.now/blog/my-love-for-naive-design/ | Source: Abhigyan Tripathi [12:50] TR Bot my love for nave design | abhigyan trips. [12:54] TR News "There is something I wish more people understood about bug reports, diagnostic information" https://fireborn.mataroa.blog/blog/be-aware-of-whats-in-your-logs/ | Source: Fireborn [12:54] TR Bot Be Aware of What's in Your Logs fireborn [12:55] TR News "Also, in both cases, you cannot remember what IP address belongs to what machine." https://unixdigest.com/tutorials/tell-your-network-to-explain-itself-and-then-some.html | Source: UNIXdigest [12:55] TR Bot Tell your network to explain itself and then some [12:55] TR News "Following on from my post last year about Bootstrap 5 CSS Breakpoint Indicator, heres a snippet for Bootstrap 6 (Alpha)." https://christianoliff.com/blog/bootstrap-6-css-breakpoint-indicator/ | [12:55] TR Bot Bootstrap 6 CSS Breakpoint Indicator | Christian Oliff [12:55] TR News "I like treating the browser as the first framework. It has routing, form submission, UI controls, layout, state selectors, image selection, preferences, caching, and an accessibility model built in." https://ronaldsvilcins.com/2026/10/25/what-the-browser-already-does-without-a-framework/ | Source: Ronalds Vilci [12:55] TR Bot What the Browser Already Does Without a Framework Ronalds Vilci [12:57] TR News "One thing about my Godot game that was a little more difficult than expected was exporting a HTML version of the project" https://lmika.org/2026/10/24/resizing-and-centering-the-canvas.html | Source: Leon Mika [12:57] TR Bot Resizing And Centering the Canvas Of a Godot Web Export - Leon Mika [12:57] TR News "Duh! It is a virtual machine that only gets interrupted when it asks to be." https://fzakaria.com/2026/10/24/dafuq-is-a-deterministic-vm | Source: Farid Zakaria [12:57] TR Bot Dafuq is a deterministic VM? | Farid Zakarias Blog ● Oct 25 [13:07] TR News "The openSUSE Board asked for the election to be completed by Dec. 1, 2026, as outlined in Board ticket #108." https://news.opensuse.org/2026/10/24/board-election-2026-announcement/ | Source: OpenSUSE [13:07] TR Bot openSUSE Board Election 2026 Begins - openSUSE News [13:14] TR News SteamOS 3.9.5 released with Plasma 6.7, Linux 7.2, Security Fixes, better Steam Frame wireless adapter support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/10/steamos-3-9-5-released-with-plasma-6-7-linux-7-2-security-fixes-better-steam-frame-wireless-adapter-support/ [13:14] TR Bot 3.9.5 released with Plasma 6.7, Linux 7.2, Security Fixes, better Steam Frame wireless adapter support | GamingOnLinux [13:14] TR News "Manosfren i unge mnds feeds" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://cfdp.dk/demokratisk-dannelse/risikoadfaerd-online/vidensbank/rapporter/manosfaeren-i-unge-maends-feeds/ [13:14] TR Bot Manosfren i unge mnds feeds - Center for Digital Pdagogik [13:15] TR News "Manosfren i unge mnds feeds : En undersgelse af manosfrisk indhold og indhold med rigide mandeidealer i danske unge mnds feeds p TikTok" https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://cfdp.dk/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/Manosfaere_rapport_9.okt2026.pdf [13:16] TR News "Defund Musk and Impeach Trump | The Coffee Klatch for Saturday, October 24, 2026" https://robertreich.substack.com/p/defund-musk-and-impeach-trump-the [13:16] TR Bot Defund Musk and Impeach Trump | The Coffee Klatch for Saturday, October 24, 2026 [13:16] TR News old; https://youtu.be/-zRN7XLCRhc [13:16] TR Bot https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc [13:17] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/.gandalf/check?gandalf_id=58bcecd6-703a-4694-8552-70cec199c449&gandalf_redir=/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc ) [13:17] MinceR https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-8008-j [13:17] TR Bot SCP-8008-J - SCP Foundation [13:30] TR News LibreFolio self-hosted financial portfolio tracker https://www.linuxlinks.com/librefolio-self-hosted-financial-portfolio-tracker/ [13:30] TR Bot - self-hosted financial portfolio tracker - LinuxLinks [13:34] TR News LumaOS Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distribution featuring Niri https://www.linuxlinks.com/lumaos-ubuntu-based-linux-distribution-featuring-niri/ [13:34] TR Bot - Ubuntu-based Linux distribution featuring Niri - LinuxLinks [13:36] TR News FusionPBX multi-tenant VoIP PBX management platform https://www.linuxlinks.com/fusionpbx-multi-tenant-voip-pbx-management-platform/ [13:36] TR Bot - multi-tenant VoIP PBX management platform - LinuxLinks [13:36] TR News Deki Engine ESP32 gets an open source Unity-style editor and C++ 2D game engine https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/10/25/deki-engine-esp32-gets-an-open-source-unity-style-editor-and-c-2d-game-engine/ [13:36] TR Bot Deki Engine - ESP32 gets an open source Unity-style editor and C++ 2D game engine - CNX Software [13:51] TR News Kraft 2.1.0 Release https://dragotin.codeberg.page/posts/kraft-2.1/ [13:51] TR Bot Kraft 2.1.0 Release | Dragotins Blog [13:51] TR News Linux Saloon 225 | Vim Motions Tutor https://cubiclenate.com/2026/10/24/linux-saloon-225-vim-motions-tutor/ [13:52] TR Bot Vim Motions and Typing Tutor [13:52] TR News Thunder Hoop Collection - Review on GNU/Linux and Steam Deck https://boilingsteam.com/thunderhoopcollection/index.html [13:52] TR Bot Thunder Hoop Collection - Review on Linux and Steam Deck [13:52] TR News Three Years of Uptime on Laptop https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/24/three-years-of-uptime-on-laptop/ [13:52] TR Bot Blog Archive Three Years of Uptime on Laptop [13:53] TR News I get to rule Lisbon in Crown of Hispania: Review on GNU/Linux and Steam Deck https://boilingsteam.com/crown-of-hispania/index.html [13:53] TR Bot I get to rule Lisbon in Crown of Hispania: Review on Linux and Steam Deck [13:53] TR News (NEW): 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 25th, 2026 https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_25th_2026.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_October_25th_2026.gmi [13:53] TR Bot Tux Machines 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: October 25th, 2026 [13:53] TR News Quirinux 2.3 https://distrowatch.com/quirinux [13:53] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/quirinux ) [13:53] TR News openmamba [13:54] TR News openmamba 20261024 https://distrowatch.com/openmamba [13:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/openmamba ) [13:54] TR News ArchEZ 2026.10.24 https://distrowatch.com/archez [13:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/archez ) [13:54] TR News DragonOS Resolute_R2 https://distrowatch.com/dragonos [13:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/dragonos ) [13:54] TR News DietPi 10.8 https://distrowatch.com/dietpi [13:54] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/dietpi ) [13:55] TR News Rockchip RK3668 Targets Edge Hey Hi (AI) with 44 TOPS NPU and PCIe 5.0 https://linuxgizmos.com/rockchip-rk3668-targets-edge-ai-with-44-tops-npu-and-pcie-5-0/ [13:55] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/rockchip-rk3668-targets-edge-ai-with-44-tops-npu-and-pcie-5-0/ ) [13:56] TR News gxmessage @ Savannah: gxmessage 4.1.1 for GTK4 released savannah.gnu.org/news/?id=10952 [13:56] TR News https [13:57] TR News Voyager 26.04.1 https://distrowatch.com/voyager [13:57] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://distrowatch.com/voyager ) [13:57] TR News OBS Studio 33.0 Released with Chromium 150 & NVIDIA Encoder on ARM64 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2026/10/obs-studio-33-0-released-with-chromium-150-nvidia-encoder-on-arm64/ [13:57] TR Bot OBS Studio 33.0 Released with Chromium 150 & NVIDIA Encoder on ARM64 | UbuntuHandbook ● Oct 25 [14:01] TR News Pure Comments and the Fediverse https://kevquirk.com/pure-comments-and-the-fediverse [14:01] TR Bot Pure Comments and the Fediverse - Kev Quirk [14:01] TR News Proton hosts Flock map revealing over 300,000 cameras, defying cease-and-desist threats against creator https://www.tomshardware.com/software/maps/proton-hosts-flock-map-revealing-over-300-000-cameras-defying-cease-and-desist-threats-against-creator-privacy-focused-company-hosts-site-on-swiss-servers-says-users-have-the-right-to-know-whos-recording-them [14:01] TR Bot Proton hosts Flock map revealing over 300,000 cameras, defying cease-and-desist threats against creator privacy-focused company hosts site on Swiss servers, says users have the right to know whos recording them | Tom's Hardware [14:02] TR News Italy hit by new cost of living protests https://www.france24.com/en/italy-hit-by-new-cost-of-living-protests [14:02] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.france24.com/en/italy-hit-by-new-cost-of-living-protests ) [14:02] TR News 'This Is a Dystopian Nightmare': Workers Told To Wear Forehead Cameras So Robots Can Learn Their Jobs https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/this-dystopian-nightmare-workers-told-wear-forehead-cameras-so-robots-can-learn-their-jobs-1827592 [14:02] TR Bot 'This Is a Dystopian Nightmare': Workers Told To Wear Forehead Cameras So Robots Can Learn Their Jobs | IBTimes UK [14:03] TR News YouTuber escapes the modern Hey Hi (AI) tech market by recreating his 1996 PC https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/retro-gaming/exhaustion-with-tech-market-prompts-youtuber-to-remake-their-first-pc-1996-build-fueled-by-nostalgia-and-ai-weariness [14:03] TR Bot YouTuber escapes the modern AI tech market by recreating his 1996 PC nostalgia build relies on manual motherboard jumpers and a 2GB hard drive | Tom's Hardware [14:04] TR News Banks Preparing for Aftermath of Unprecedented Catastrophe Caused by Hey Hi (AI) https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/banks-preparing-ai-financial-catastrophe [14:04] TR Bot Banks Preparing for Aftermath of Unprecedented Catastrophe Caused by AI [14:04] TR News Valve adds CD-ROM drive support to Steam Frame kernel, took less than ten minutes https://www.tomshardware.com/virtual-reality/valve-adds-cd-rom-drive-support-to-steam-frame-kernel-took-less-than-ten-minutes-update-comes-one-day-after-user-requests-for-capability-in-the-steam-community-forum [14:04] TR Bot Valve adds CD-ROM drive support to Steam Frame kernel, took less than ten minutes update comes one day after user requests for capability in the Steam Community forum | Tom's Hardware [14:10] TR News eMudhra Intermediate CI Compromise https://www.gentoo.org/news/2026/10/24/emudhra-intermediate-ca-compromise.html [14:10] TR Bot eMudhra Intermediate CA Compromise Gentoo Linux [14:13] TR News SuperTuxKart Online has gone dark https://blog.supertuxkart.net/2026/10/supertuxkart-online-has-gone-dark.html [14:13] TR Bot Blog - Supertuxkart [14:23] TR News Zelenskyy Says Ukraine's Starlink Speed Restored As Moscow And Kyiv Exchange Attacks https://www.rferl.org/a/kraine-starshield-satellite-speeds-restored-drone-operations/33883512.html [14:23] TR Bot Zelenskyy Says Ukraine's Starlink Speed Restored As Moscow And Kyiv Exchange Attacks [14:27] TR News We Investigated Character.AI and Found a Horror Show. Now Its Bankrupt. https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/character-ai-horror-show-bankrupt [14:27] TR Bot We Investigated Character.AI and Found a Horror Show. Now It's Bankrupt. [14:28] TR News Behind the Scenes, Metas Board Is Battling With Mark Kapo-berg Over His Out-of-Control Hey Hi (AI) Spending https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/meta-board-zuckerberg-ai-spending-compensation https://thenextweb.com/news/tech-giants-hidden-off-balance-sheet-debt-ai [14:28] TR Bot Behind the Scenes, Meta's Board Is Battling With Mark Zuckerberg Over His Out-of-Control AI Spending [14:28] TR Bot Five tech giants are hiding $1.65tn in AI debt, using the trick that toppled Enron [14:29] TR News List of Vim forks https://evanhahn.com/list-of-vim-forks/ [14:29] TR Bot List of Vim forks [14:32] TR News As Water Crisis Continues, Backup Water Supply in The Colorado River Basin Is Also Drying Up https://www.sciencealert.com/as-water-crisis-continues-backup-water-supply-in-the-colorado-river-basin-is-also-drying-up [14:32] TR Bot Water Crisis Continues, Backup Water Supply in The Colorado River Basin Is Also Drying Up : ScienceAlert [14:48] TR News This is the only Linux distro that's worth running on your smartphone https://www.howtogeek.com/this-is-the-only-linux-distro-thats-worth-running-on-your-smartphone/ [14:48] TR Bot This is the only Linux distro that's worth running on your smartphone [14:49] TR News Android works better with Linux when you install these 4 apps https://www.howtogeek.com/android-works-better-with-linux-when-you-install-these-4-apps/ [14:49] TR Bot Android works better with Linux when you install these 4 apps [14:49] TR News "One of the most frequently asked questions of Linux folks is "what's the best lightweight distro for an old PC?" The Reg FOSS desk's current answer is Raspberry Pi Desktop." https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/24/raspberry-pi-desktop-proves-old-pcs-arent-past-it/5304676 [14:49] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Desktop proves old PCs aren't past it [14:50] TR News Morningdew Media releases MorningDAW, a FREE DAW for macOS, Windows, and Linux https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2026/10/24/morningdew-media-releases-morningdaw-a-free-daw-for-macos-windows-and-linux/ [14:50] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2026/10/24/morningdew-media-releases-morningdaw-a-free-daw-for-macos-windows-and-linux/ ) [14:50] TR News "This gaming-focused Linux distribution has a few cool tricks up its sleeve, including X Mode." https://www.zdnet.com/tech/cobaltx-bazzite-linux-gaming-distro/ [14:50] TR Bot CobaltX beat Bazzite? I put this new Linux gaming distro to the test - ZDNET [14:51] TR News These Linux distros claim to be open source, but they're barely even close https://www.howtogeek.com/these-linux-distros-claim-to-be-open-source-but-theyre-barely-evenclose/ [14:51] TR Bot These Linux distros claim to be open source, but they're barely even close [14:51] TR News "SparkyOS is a novel distro from the folks behind SparkyLinux: it's a version of Arch that can you can use without installing it at all." https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/10/23/sparkyos-lightweight-general-purpose-arch-on-a-pendrive/5304984 [14:51] TR Bot SparkyOS: Lightweight general-purpose Arch, on a pendrive [14:58] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/today_s_howtos.gmi [14:58] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [14:59] TR News (NEW): Games: SteamOS 3.9.5, Steam Frame, SuperTuxKart Online, and Reviews on GNU/Linux and Steam Deck https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Games_SteamOS_3_9_5_Steam_Frame_SuperTuxKart_Online_and_Reviews.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Games_SteamOS_3_9_5_Steam_Frame_SuperTuxKart_Online_and_Reviews.gmi [14:59] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: SteamOS 3.9.5, Steam Frame, SuperTuxKart Online, and Reviews on GNU/Linux and Steam Deck ● Oct 25 [15:01] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [15:01] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [15:03] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware, GNU/Linux, and Mobile https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Open_Hardware_GNU_Linux_and_Mobile.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Open_Hardware_GNU_Linux_and_Mobile.gmi [15:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware, GNU/Linux, and Mobile [15:08] *croissant` (~croissant@8jwsykkupndw8.irc) has joined #techrights [15:09] *croissant has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:18] TR News (NEW): Editors: Emacs and Vim Forks https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Editors_Emacs_and_Vim_Forks.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Editors_Emacs_and_Vim_Forks.gmi [15:18] TR Bot Tux Machines Editors: Emacs and Vim Forks [15:24] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Security_Leftovers.gmi [15:24] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [15:31] TR News (NEW): Using hooks in Pure Blog, Pure Comments and the Fediverse https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Using_hooks_in_Pure_Blog_Pure_Comments_and_the_Fediverse.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Using_hooks_in_Pure_Blog_Pure_Comments_and_the_Fediverse.gmi [15:31] TR Bot Tux Machines Using hooks in Pure Blog, Pure Comments and the Fediverse [15:36] TR News Man Utds Coach is Done https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/man-utds-coach-is-done/ [15:36] TR Bot Blog Archive Man Utds Coach is Done [15:37] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [15:43] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [15:43] TR News (NEW): Release of Alpine 3.21.9, 3.22.7, 3.23.7 and 3.24.3; Kraft 2.1.0 Released https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Release_of_Alpine_3_21_9_3_22_7_3_23_7_and_3_24_3_Kraft_2_1_0_R.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Release_of_Alpine_3_21_9_3_22_7_3_23_7_and_3_24_3_Kraft_2_1_0_R.gmi [15:43] TR Bot Tux Machines Release of Alpine 3.21.9, 3.22.7, 3.23.7 and 3.24.3; Kraft 2.1.0 Released [15:45] TR News (NEW): Web Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Web_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Web_Leftovers.gmi [15:45] TR Bot Tux Machines Web Leftovers [15:46] TR News (NEW): Databases: Firebird can now be built with CMake + Clang, twelve years of distributed SQLite https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Databases_Firebird_can_now_be_built_with_CMake_Clang_twelve_yea.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Databases_Firebird_can_now_be_built_with_CMake_Clang_twelve_yea.gmi [15:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Databases: Firebird can now be built with CMake + Clang, twelve years of distributed SQLite [15:46] TR News (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi [15:46] TR Bot Tux Machines Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers [15:51] TR News (NEW): GNU/Linux Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/GNU_Linux_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/GNU_Linux_Leftovers.gmi [15:51] TR Bot Tux Machines GNU/Linux Leftovers [15:51] TR News (NEW): openSUSE Board Election 2026 Begins, Fedora Linux 45 Release Party https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/openSUSE_Board_Election_2026_Begins_Fedora_Linux_45_Release_Par.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/openSUSE_Board_Election_2026_Begins_Fedora_Linux_45_Release_Par.gmi [15:51] TR Bot Tux Machines openSUSE Board Election 2026 Begins, Fedora Linux 45 Release Party [15:53] TR News Techrights Links 25/10/2026: TMZ Revisits Epstein's Connections to Bill Epsteingate, "Italy Nit by New Cost of Living Protests" https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Links_25_10_2026_TMZ_Revisits_Epstein_s_Connections_to_Bill_Eps.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Links_25_10_2026_TMZ_Revisits_Epstein_s_Connections_to_Bill_Eps.gmi [15:53] TR Bot Techrights Links 25/10/2026: TMZ Revisits Epstein's Connections to Bill Epsteingate, "Italy Nit by New Cost of Living Protests" [15:58] TR News IBM "Bob says debt is only a problem if you plan to pay it back." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5h1ex0s [15:58] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5h1ex0s ) [15:59] TR News "You need to understand that IBM is all about costs. Cost lowering is job one if you are in management. Do layoffs impact costs? You bet they do, so layoffs are always in the picture. NOTE layoffs usually involve business operations that IBM is withdrawing from, OR offshoring. If you are in a high cost country, you should definitely expect layoffs." [15:59] TR News "That's the sort of PIP that is actually related to your performance. The other is the kind where they want to lay you off but not pay severance...the timing of those is the timing of the desired layoff." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5b291zw [15:59] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5b291zw ) ● Oct 25 [16:00] TR News "In the US separation usually follows swiftly after an unsuccessful PIP." "Yes usually same day within minutes. Its brutal especially to those who did not deserve or warrant a PIP" [16:01] TR News "Following the link in the OPs post yields this: "This Post is from a suspended account. Learn more" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5bjqv3b [16:01] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5bjqv3b ) [16:01] TR News "what happened to the 6 other replies ? Censored again ?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1m5bjqv3b [16:02] TR News "all the great/competent managers in my group left voluntarily or were laid off. all the ones that survived the cut are worthless -- one couldn't spell the names of her subordinates, fill out forms, or use tools she was pushing us to adopt; another would take credit for my ideas or wisdom i shared without giving credit." [16:02] TR News "our director kept pushing the return-to-office mandate but himself wouldn't go to the office or attend meetings he set, and he's rarely seen online." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kz3fj1w7 [16:02] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1kz3fj1w7 ) [16:04] *Received a CTCP VERSION from StatServ [16:05] *ewig has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [16:08] tr1n1t4s status 403 [16:09] schestowitz[TR2] yes, clownflare [16:09] schestowitz[TR2] they don't like this user-agent [16:09] schestowitz[TR2] jusst 7 years ago almost any url would allow this bot [16:10] schestowitz[TR2] tthen clownflare was gettin ginto a lot of webspace [16:10] tr1n1t4s cuckflare does be cuckflaring. [16:11] schestowitz[TR2] 2006 put in url [16:11] schestowitz[TR2] get web page payload [16:11] schestowitz[TR2] 2026 put in url, get JS challenges [16:12] TR News Microsoft chaos https://www.eurogamer.net/the-coalition-gears-of-war-e-day-worried-layoffs-no-bonus [16:12] TR Bot Xbox swings the axe, Gears of War: E-Day developers fear they'll be laid off straight after launch - and right before they'd be due their bonuses | Eurogamer.net [16:13] TR News "no longer a guarantee of continuity at the company. In fact, some members of The Coalition fear being fired." https://www.eteknix.com/gears-of-war-e-day-earns-strong-reviews-but-the-coalition-developers-fear-layoffs/ [16:13] TR Bot of War: E-Day Earns Strong Reviews, But The Coalition Developers Fear Layoffs - eTeknix [16:16] TR News Plagiarism or slop or both? https://gnnhd.tv/news/56774/microsoft-shuts-down-its-beloved-maker-space [16:16] TR Bot Microsoft shuts down its beloved maker space [16:30] TR News Techrights Microsofts Spin About Mass Layoffs and Shutdowns: They "Never Should Have Existed" https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Microsoft_s_Spin_About_Mass_Layoffs_and_Shutdowns_They_Never_Sh.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Microsoft_s_Spin_About_Mass_Layoffs_and_Shutdowns_They_Never_Sh.gmi [16:30] TR Bot Techrights Microsofts Spin About Mass Layoffs and Shutdowns: They "Never Should Have Existed" [16:49] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [16:53] TR News We Are All Human Beings https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/we-are-all-human-beings/ [16:53] TR Bot Blog Archive We Are All Human Beings [16:54] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 25 [17:00] TR News End of Summer Time (BST) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2026/10/25/end-of-summer-time-bst/ [17:00] TR Bot Blog Archive End of Summer Time (BST) [17:12] TR News Techrights Linus Torvalds Defected to Enshittification https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Linus_Torvalds_Defected_to_Enshittification.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Linus_Torvalds_Defected_to_Enshittification.gmi [17:12] TR Bot Techrights Linus Torvalds Defected to Enshittification [17:22] TR News Techrights At Microsoft, the Silent Layoffs Impact Executives Also https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/At_Microsoft_the_Silent_Layoffs_Impact_Executives_Also.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/At_Microsoft_the_Silent_Layoffs_Impact_Executives_Also.gmi [17:22] TR Bot Techrights At Microsoft, the Silent Layoffs Impact Executives Also [17:28] TR News (NEW): Three Years https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Three_Years.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Three_Years.gmi [17:28] TR Bot Tux Machines Three Years [17:40] TR News (NEW): About 1 in 20 Italians Uses GNU/Linux on Desktops/Laptops https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/About_1_in_20_Italians_Uses_GNU_Linux_on_Desktops_Laptops.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/About_1_in_20_Italians_Uses_GNU_Linux_on_Desktops_Laptops.gmi [17:40] TR Bot Tux Machines About 1 in 20 Italians Uses GNU/Linux on Desktops/Laptops [17:45] *reap (~Username@s8kfk54nxqtqy.irc) has joined #techrights [17:51] TR News (NEW): GNOME Has Forgotten That Desktop Users Want Choices 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gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Emaki_Arch_based_Linux_distribution_with_niri.gmi [18:00] TR Bot Tux Machines Emaki Arch-based Linux distribution with niri [18:03] TR News (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Software https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.1.gmi [18:03] TR Bot Tux Machines Best Free and Open Source Software [18:09] TR News Techrights There Are No Women That Are Kernel Developers Sent by Corporations Which Claim to Champion Diversity https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/There_Are_No_Women_That_Are_Kernel_Developers_Sent_by_Corporati.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/There_Are_No_Women_That_Are_Kernel_Developers_Sent_by_Corporati.gmi [18:09] TR Bot Techrights There Are No Women That Are Kernel Developers Sent by Corporations Which Claim to Champion Diversity [18:19] schestowitz[TR2] Goblin: lost and found https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Today_in_Techrights.shtml [18:19] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [18:23] *IsambardPrince (~IsambardPrince@ggjf5dcaz77uy.irc) has joined #techrights [18:23] IsambardPrince I made a joke years ago about Wikipedia. [18:23] TR News (NEW): Lightweight Linux distros make your old hardware useful again, and they're not the nightmare you remember https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Lightweight_Linux_distros_make_your_old_hardware_useful_again_a.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Lightweight_Linux_distros_make_your_old_hardware_useful_again_a.gmi [18:23] TR Bot Tux Machines Lightweight Linux distros make your old hardware useful again, and they're not the nightmare you remember [18:24] MinceR and it became true? [18:25] IsambardPrince "Adolf Hitler was the leader of the German state from 1933-1945. He was a vegetarian who loved his dog Blondi and passed the first comprehensive smoking ban and animal cruelty law in the world. See also; Criticism of Hitler" [18:25] tr1n1t4s lmfao [18:29] Goblin lol.....Max does endorse free and open source software [18:30] MinceR :> [18:30] TR News (NEW): Ryzen overclocking is coming to Linux as AMD prepares an official driver https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Ryzen_overclocking_is_coming_to_Linux_as_AMD_prepares_an_offici.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Ryzen_overclocking_is_coming_to_Linux_as_AMD_prepares_an_offici.gmi [18:30] TR Bot Tux Machines Ryzen overclocking is coming to Linux as AMD prepares an official driver [18:30] MinceR pg [18:30] MinceR oops, wrong computer [18:34] IsambardPrince MinceR, I noticed a rather grim fact about Blondi. [18:35] IsambardPrince Hitler was suspicious of the cyanide capsules Himmler had given him. [18:35] IsambardPrince So he had them tested on his dog first. [18:35] TR News (NEW): This OS isn't Linux, isn't Windows, it runs on any PC you have lying around, and I used it for a month https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/This_OS_isn_t_Linux_isn_t_Windows_it_runs_on_any_PC_you_have_ly.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/This_OS_isn_t_Linux_isn_t_Windows_it_runs_on_any_PC_you_have_ly.gmi [18:35] TR Bot Tux Machines This OS isn't Linux, isn't Windows, it runs on any PC you have lying around, and I used it for a month [18:35] IsambardPrince Then he had all of Blondi's puppies shot, he said so the Russians wouldn't get them. [18:35] MinceR :) [18:37] schestowitz[TR2] the Original Puppy breaker [18:39] IsambardPrince Blondi didn't do anything wrong, she was just a dog. [18:39] IsambardPrince It actually did sicken me to hear what happened to her and the puppies. [18:39] IsambardPrince People who hurt animals are up there with child molesters in my list of unredeemable people who should be hanged. [18:40] schestowitz[TR2] at least Blondi was not f--ed vigorously with a chainsaw [18:40] IsambardPrince Even Hitler had his limits. [18:40] TR News (NEW): This 5-minute setup lets me permanently share a Linux folder with my Android phone https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/This_5_minute_setup_lets_me_permanently_share_a_Linux_folder_wi.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/This_5_minute_setup_lets_me_permanently_share_a_Linux_folder_wi.gmi [18:40] TR Bot Tux Machines This 5-minute setup lets me permanently share a Linux folder with my Android phone [18:40] schestowitz[TR2] IsambardPrince: he was austrian [18:40] schestowitz[TR2] not irish [18:40] IsambardPrince According to eyewitnesses at first Hitler looked at Blondi, dead on the floor, expressionless. [18:40] IsambardPrince But then it sank in and he was crying uncontrollably. [18:41] schestowitz[TR2] imagine killing tens of millions [18:41] schestowitz[TR2] but only shedding a tear when you see some b---ch [18:42] IsambardPrince Well, most people have a special hardwired sort of empathy for animals and small children. [18:42] IsambardPrince Even if they're stone cold in other ways. [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] he had his kids killed [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] they were young [18:42] MinceR for a subset of animals [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] devil apes [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] a KIND of an ape [18:42] schestowitz[TR2] a "kind of a yak" [18:42] IsambardPrince Pets sort of get in your head though. You know. Like, I had my last two pet cats for over ten years. [18:43] IsambardPrince And they needed me for everything, food, medical attention, everything. [18:43] schestowitz[TR2] dogs and cats are hard to losee [18:43] schestowitz[TR2] because the mental connectioin is strong in both directions [18:43] schestowitz[TR2] with birds the connection from them is simpler [18:43] IsambardPrince And so you take care of an animal like this for that long and it hits you very hard, like a very close friend. [18:43] schestowitz[TR2] "MOAR seeds" [18:43] schestowitz[TR2] or fish with flakes [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] dogs risk their lives to protect you [18:44] IsambardPrince Cats too sometimes. [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] many doogs have one human friend [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] you [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] unlike human friends [18:44] IsambardPrince I've heard of cats attacking burglars before. [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] you might be one of many friends they had [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] and you use the word "owner" [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] so it's like a kid [18:44] schestowitz[TR2] but kids have other kid friends [18:44] IsambardPrince There was this one case where a burglar broke into this old lady's house and walked into the bedroom. [18:45] IsambardPrince And he got the cat jumping into his face and going gindu blades with the teeth and claws. [18:45] IsambardPrince That cat really fucked that guy up. But this sort of protective instinct is more common with dogs. [18:45] IsambardPrince Because dogs are a pack animal by nature. [18:45] schestowitz[TR2] big cats attack in groups [18:46] IsambardPrince With cats and particular people it's usually that the cat picks a favorite person, but isn't hostile to others, although that's not always the case. [18:46] IsambardPrince You end up with cats like Sonny Boy, my great-grandmother's cat. [18:46] IsambardPrince He was very gentle with her. [18:46] IsambardPrince But he stalked and attacked anyone else. [18:46] MinceR only lions attack in groups [18:46] MinceR other cats don't [18:46] schestowitz[TR2] right [18:46] schestowitz[TR2] that's what i had in mind [18:47] schestowitz[TR2] they pick on very large animals [18:47] IsambardPrince Cats are very good for the state of mental health. [18:48] *reap has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) [18:48] IsambardPrince Soldiers in wars had "mascots", sort of like pets for that group, and sometimes they'd adopt a stray cat or dog in the middle of a war. [18:49] IsambardPrince There was this one cat, apparently, in WWII that ended up surviving the sinking of several ships, first a German one, and the British found the cat and took it, then the British ship got sunk and the Germans found it, and it went like this several times. [18:49] IsambardPrince But the cat ended up with the British. [18:49] TR News "[flagged]" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50226261 [18:49] TR Bot Free Software Is a Failure | Hacker News [18:49] IsambardPrince https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsinkable_Sam [18:49] TR Bot Unsinkable Sam - Wikipedia [18:49] MinceR Capture The Cat [18:50] IsambardPrince The cat ended up becoming something of a celebrity for his uncanny ability to survive so many ships being sunk by the other side and passing back and forth as the ship's cat for the Germans and the British. [18:50] schestowitz[TR2] wait [18:50] schestowitz[TR2] so the war was aboutr cats? [18:50] IsambardPrince Yeah, YOU TOOK MAH CAT!!! DIE DIE DIE!!!! [18:50] IsambardPrince You know, then you open up on them with the main guns. [18:50] IsambardPrince :D [18:51] IsambardPrince Then the same thing would happen in German, back and forth. [18:51] IsambardPrince All over a cat. [18:51] IsambardPrince Hitler really wanted their cat back. [18:51] IsambardPrince That's where the V2 program came in. [18:52] IsambardPrince He was just going to keep going until they got their cat. [18:52] IsambardPrince He really liked animals. [18:53] MinceR except for most humans [18:53] MinceR but i get that [18:53] IsambardPrince It got completely out of control, you know, to the point where they had a plan to dump counterfeit money to ruin the British economy, until they got the cat back. [18:55] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers https://tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2026/10/25/Android_Leftovers.gmi [18:55] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [18:58] IsambardPrince MinceR, There's a Macintosh Wolfenstein 3d emulator that runs on Linux apparently. [18:58] IsambardPrince I'm going to try to get this working later. [18:58] IsambardPrince Macs were not a high priority for most game publishers back then so they got a port years later. [18:59] IsambardPrince In this case, that meant the port was better. [18:59] IsambardPrince It used a more advanced engine and had higher quality artwork. [18:59] schestowitz[TR2] lxo: honest question [18:59] schestowitz[TR2] will you or rms or fsf comment on the linux knerl and slop? [18:59] schestowitz[TR2] i asay [18:59] schestowitz[TR2] *say [18:59] IsambardPrince ECWolf looks a lot better than the original DOS engine though. [18:59] schestowitz[TR2] you because... linux-libre [18:59] schestowitz[TR2] rms because of criticism of slop ● Oct 25 [19:00] schestowitz[TR2] and fsf because of setting example for gnu [19:00] IsambardPrince It smooths out the jaggies and things like that, runs at a better framerate. Most "Play Wolfenstein 3d Online" things usea version of dosbox that's running with WebAssemblies and stuff. [19:00] IsambardPrince So the timing is bad and it lags. [19:01] IsambardPrince You'd have to set the CPU cycles perfectly and then still account for the fact that WASM is always slower than native code and the browser input handler adds latency. [19:10] TR News Techrights Carte Blanche for GPL Violations 4 Days Ago (by Torvalds) https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Carte_Blanche_for_GPL_Violations_4_Days_Ago_by_Torvalds.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Carte_Blanche_for_GPL_Violations_4_Days_Ago_by_Torvalds.gmi [19:10] TR Bot Techrights Carte Blanche for GPL Violations 4 Days Ago (by Torvalds) [19:19] IsambardPrince Accepting a ton of slop code just means that you eventually get to a point where there's millions of lines nobody is familiar with, because they didn't write it. [19:19] IsambardPrince Then you have no maintainer who understands it. [19:19] IsambardPrince The further you go, the harder it is to come back. [19:20] IsambardPrince They toss out things that were written by humans, still work, aren't even big, and say it's because "nobody is maintaining it". [19:20] IsambardPrince Who is going to maintain a pile of millions of lines of, say, "Apple Silicon" drivers that they didn't write? [19:22] IsambardPrince I watched them throw out a 90s file system the other day that was about 1,000 lines of code. It wasn't very intrusive they just said it was hard to make conforming changes when the rest of the tree updated? [19:22] IsambardPrince Harder than making conforming changes to millions of lines of slop that nobody even wrote? [19:23] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], Google Gemini makes typos. [19:24] IsambardPrince I asked it why it makes typos and it said it was trained on a bunch of random things from the Internet and some of that had typos in it. [19:25] IsambardPrince It doesn't look at individual letters or words, it just predicts what should come next. So in the context of a paragraph, if it's seen typos in a word before, more than one way to spell that word made it into the training, and could be generated later. [19:26] IsambardPrince When you train one of these coding agents on all of github, they will come across many bugs and examples of inefficient code, then they suggest bugs and inefficient code. [19:26] IsambardPrince The people who accept that generated code bring in bugs that they don't understand because instead of having to sit down and write it line by line based on their own understanding, they get something that a robot tinkered with until it built and passed some automated tests, usually tests that the bot wrote. [19:27] IsambardPrince It's not going to suggest code you can rely on, it will suggest code that probably works, but maybe not very well. [19:27] IsambardPrince And then because you absorbed a ton of it at once and aren't familiar with any of it, you will spend years dealing with bug reports in your stolen code. [19:27] IsambardPrince So you'll have to go back and ask coding agents how to fix it too. [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] schestowitz[TR2], Google Gemini makes typos. [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] bad grammar too [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] it's as good as it will get [19:28] schestowitz[TR2] and it'll coost more to generate over time [19:29] TR News Techrights Another Form of Microsoft Silent Layoffs: Workers That 'Expire' https://techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Another_Form_of_Microsoft_Silent_Layoffs_Workers_That_Expire.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2026/10/25/Another_Form_of_Microsoft_Silent_Layoffs_Workers_That_Expire.gmi [19:29] TR Bot Techrights Another Form of Microsoft Silent Layoffs: Workers That 'Expire' ● Oct 25 [20:00] *nobody has quit (connection closed) [20:01] *nobody (~nobody@d9gtug32f73sq.irc) has joined #techrights [20:53] *tr1n1t4s has quit (Quit: Lost terminal) ● Oct 25 [21:19] *tessier has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:22] *tessier (~tessier@bkvnvf9i7ceyk.irc) has joined #techrights [21:43] IsambardPrince schestowitz[TR2], So I ended up doing a flu, covid, RSV test. All negative. [21:43] IsambardPrince So it's something else. [21:43] IsambardPrince I also bought some off brand Mucinex and some Vicks Severe cough drops. [21:43] IsambardPrince I bought a bag of Halls yesterday and Halls are reformulated now and half as strong as they used to be. [21:43] IsambardPrince So they do nothing for a sore throat unless you stuff two of them in your mouth at once. [21:44] IsambardPrince Went by McDonald's. I ordered a deluxe spicy mccrispy chicken sandwich. They didn't put the spicy sauce on it, so they remade it. I don't know why. They could have just handed me a small container of the sauce. [21:44] IsambardPrince But then they handed it back with no tomatoes, so I mentioned it and they handed me a small container of tomatoes. [21:45] IsambardPrince The guy at the cash register did not know how to use a receipt coupon. [21:45] IsambardPrince So this required bringing over a manager. [21:47] IsambardPrince So people literally camped to buy a foldable iPhone for $2000. [21:47] IsambardPrince And their screens are cracking, from folding them. [21:48] IsambardPrince https://9to5mac.com/2026/10/25/iphone-duo-displays-cracking/ [21:48] TR Bot iPhone Duo displays are cracking, seemingly all in the same way - 9to5Mac [21:50] MinceR lol [21:50] MinceR classic crApple build quality [21:53] IsambardPrince "The amount of time it takes for the cracking to happen varies, but obviously it doesnt take too long since customers have only been able to start unboxing the device since Friday morning. A couple of people even said theirs cracked during the first setup process." [21:54] IsambardPrince MinceR, ^ [21:55] MinceR i love how the article goes into damage control mode and advertises other crApple crap [21:55] MinceR what a bunch of suckers [21:55] IsambardPrince MinceR, I replied to 9to5Mac [21:55] IsambardPrince "You can go camping again behind other people with cracked screens who realized $2000 is a mortgage payment." [21:56] MinceR :> [21:58] IsambardPrince MinceR, Barack Obama commented on Trump redecorating the White House in a bunch of gold trim with a ballroom that's bigger than the White House. [21:58] IsambardPrince He said it "looks like Saddam Hussein opened a Cheesecake Factory". [21:58] MinceR lol ● Oct 25 [22:00] *x-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:01] *x-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@6mnab3uw5dgtk.irc) has joined #techrights [22:49] *CrystalMath (~coderain@zb8r4kfzknsge.irc) has joined #techrights ● Oct 25 [23:11] *Goblin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:13] IsambardPrince MinceR, I was reading about Operation Werwolf. [23:14] IsambardPrince Apparently, Nazi Germany threw together some plans for an insurgency after the war, but it didn't go anywhere. [23:14] IsambardPrince There was no serious planning for what happened after they lost the war until about 6 months before the surrender. [23:14] MinceR it was unnecessary anyway, as the orcs continued most of what the germans did [23:14] MinceR but according to the allies, that was A-OK [23:16] IsambardPrince I think that was a big mistake in the movie adaptation of Moonraker. [23:17] IsambardPrince They should have kept Drax and the Werwolf plot from the book. [23:23] IsambardPrince MinceR, AT&T posted about the iPhone Duo on Facebook. [23:23] IsambardPrince I replied: [23:23] IsambardPrince According to 9to5Mac, people who bought the $2000 iPhone in the past day or so have already managed to crack the screen, some before the setup program was even done running. The defect leaves a device that's as expensive as a mortgage payment with a white line running through the center. [23:43] IsambardPrince These Tide Evo laundry pods have a very strong smell to them. [23:43] IsambardPrince But I'm going to use them. The free sample machine gave me a whole bag. [23:44] IsambardPrince MinceR, Some of the Apple systems over the years were pretty okay for their time. [23:44] IsambardPrince But they've had many more bad designs than good ones. [23:45] IsambardPrince The Macbook Neo is an interesting idea. [23:45] IsambardPrince At the correct price point. [23:45] IsambardPrince But it serves a purpose. [23:45] IsambardPrince Apple isn't making a fortune getting that into your home, it establishes a foothold. [23:46] IsambardPrince Then you have one Apple product that doesn't work very well unless you buy others, including an iPhone. [23:46] IsambardPrince And there's no guarantee that they keep making new models of the Neo later or at roughly the same price. [23:54] cybershow only recently discovered that Moonraker the book is almost an entirely different story than the film Isambard