●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, December 25, 2021 ●● ● Dec 25 [00:01] *hyperreal has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:01] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:01] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:02] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:03] *isak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:03] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:03] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [00:04] *swaggboi has quit (Quit: C-x C-c) [00:04] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [00:05] *hyperrea- (~hyperreal@uwig9nz6889zi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:05] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@yfj9xvtb6yewi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:07] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [00:07] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [00:07] psydroid2 http://www.yared.com/2021/12/the-entire-bay-area-has-become-large.html [00:07] TR Bot The entire Bay Area has become a large declining tech company [00:09] *isak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:09] *isak (~isak@dzzss3vg4xwbw.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] *swaggboi (~swaggboi@slackware.uk/supporter/swaggboi) has joined #techrights [00:13] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:14] DaemonFC https://www.wsj.com/articles/consumer-spending-personal-income-inflation-november-2021-11640215420 [00:14] TR Bot Starts to Slow U.S. Economy as Consumer Spending Flags - WSJ [00:28] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@gvrgv6p9zx2qy.irc) has joined #techrights [00:32] *hyperrea- has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:35] *hyperrea- (~hyperreal@uwig9nz6889zi.irc) has joined #techrights ● Dec 25 [01:01] TR News " #elementaryOS had a new release a few days ago, version 6.1 which is codenamed "Jolnir". I've always loved the great work that the Elementary team is doing, but the previous version of Elementary had some issues." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=FNNFtM95fZY [01:01] TR Bot A First Look At Elementary OS "Jolnir" - Invidious [01:01] TR News #InvoiceLion : your self-hosted open-source invoice manager https://medevel.com/invoicelion/ #deletegithub [01:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/invoicelion/ [01:01] TR Bot InvoiceLion: your self-hosted open-source invoice manager [01:01] TR News Start a conversation... [01:02] TR News "Gemini space is lovely!" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007731.html [01:02] TR Bot Refering to links? [01:03] TR News #Cerebro : Your Desktop Search Assistant for Windows, macOS, and Linux https://medevel.com/cerebro/ #deletegithub [01:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/cerebro/ [01:03] TR Bot Cerebro: Your Desktop Search Assistant for Windows, macOS, and Linux [01:04] TR News #Rescuezilla 2.3 Swiss Army Knife of System Recovery Is Here, Based on Ubuntu 21.10 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159523 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] TR Bot Rescuezilla 2.3 Swiss Army Knife of System Recovery Is Here, Based on Ubuntu 21.10 | Tux Machines [01:04] TR News 11 Most Popular #GNULinux distros of the year 2021- To use in 2022 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159522 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:04] TR Bot 11 Most Popular Linux distros of the year 2021- To use in 2022 | Tux Machines [01:06] schestowitz__[TR] DaemonFC: covid has a new name nopw [01:06] schestowitz__[TR] now [01:06] schestowitz__[TR] magatron [01:07] DaemonFC Biden tried to play I'm not gonna pay a lot for this muffler with the at-home tests. [01:07] DaemonFC And now it's spreading like wildfire. [01:08] schestowitz-TR2 anyway, it'll just blow over [01:08] schestowitz-TR2 because he's not trump [01:09] DaemonFC I can't imagine how this would be much worse under Trump, honestly. [01:09] DaemonFC The vaccine would have rolled out exactly like it did. [01:09] schestowitz-TR2 sputnik five star [01:11] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: can you read a draft? [01:12] DaemonFC Yeah [01:12] schestowitz__[TR] http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/epo-mafia-culture/ [01:12] TR Bot The EPO Mafia | Techrights [01:15] DaemonFC "So kind of kakistocracy " [01:15] DaemonFC this kind [01:17] schestowitz-TR2 well spotted [01:20] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, They also screwed up Mandy's vaccine passport. [01:20] DaemonFC It says he took 4 doses of Pfizer. [01:20] DaemonFC Mine says a Moderna and three Pfizer. [01:20] DaemonFC LOL [01:21] DaemonFC So when they all need four doses they'll scan our QR codes and it'll beep and turn green and they'll let us in. [01:21] DaemonFC I love this state. [01:22] TR News The #EPO Mafia Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/epo-mafia-culture/ #Techrights #italy $slovenia #corrruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/epo-mafia-culture/ [01:22] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: streets were quite empty today [01:22] schestowitz-TR2 even for xmas ever [01:22] schestowitz-TR2 billBC noted the same [01:22] schestowitz-TR2 people are afroid to be out [01:22] schestowitz-TR2 *xmas eve [01:22] schestowitz-TR2 brb [01:23] schestowitz-TR2 will do part 4 about cars [01:23] schestowitz-TR2 need coffee [01:23] DaemonFC When I went to leave the restaurant, the red light camera flashed someone. [01:24] DaemonFC Couldn't have been me. [01:24] DaemonFC I got the entire thing on my dash cam showing that I made a legal left-hand turn and copied the video to my computer just in case I need it for court though. [01:32] schestowitz-TR2 give me a moment to typo up the article [01:33] schestowitz-TR2 eta 30 mins [01:34] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, SalesForce and aspx crap all over the Illinois Vax Verify site. [01:35] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 7.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 106.71 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.20 [01:44] *leah has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:44] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [01:58] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Dec 25 [02:03] *leah has quit (connection closed) [02:03] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights [02:06] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@hrtihjfuwwjea.irc) has joined #techrights [02:06] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: hi [02:06] schestowitz-TR2 ready [02:06] DaemonFC Hi. I found another site Firefox can't access. [02:06] schestowitz-TR2 if you are [02:06] DaemonFC The Equifax My Tax Form site. [02:06] DaemonFC Which is, you know, totally unimportant. [02:06] DaemonFC You don't need your W-2 or anything. [02:06] DaemonFC :P [02:08] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, I'm feeling more and more vindicated by my decision to just abandon Firefox completely. [02:09] DaemonFC Aside from the aggravation, banks and credit bureaus and tax software are all locking it out because they see it as unimportant now. [02:10] schestowitz__[TR] DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/unnecessary-complexity-in-cars/ [02:10] TR Bot The Car Drives You Part IV Todays Cars Come With Up to 3,000 Chips and Security Isnt of Concern | Techrights [02:21] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: ^ [02:35] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 11.08 k/sec., IPFS upstream 177.16 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.17 [02:38] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [02:39] TR News The #Car Drives You - Part IV - Todays Cars Come With Up to 3,000 Chips and Security Isnt of Concern Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/unnecessary-complexity-in-cars/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/unnecessary-complexity-in-cars/ [02:39] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-241221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-241221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-241221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-241221.txt [02:39] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 24, 2021 [02:40] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-241221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-241221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-241221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-241221.txt [02:40] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 24, 2021 [02:41] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-241221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-241221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-241221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-241221.txt [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 24, 2021 [02:41] TR News "I invited Sweety here because they thought GNU/Linux is the best, but I told that corporations are attacking it" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-241221.html#tDec%2024%2020:07:03 [02:41] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 24, 2021 [02:42] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-241221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-241221.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-241221.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-241221.txt [02:42] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, December 24, 2021 [02:45] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-12-24.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-12-24.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:47] TR News Another "man bites dog" 'journalism' https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-16/byron-bay-church-of-ubuntu-worker-covid-vaccination/100703588 [02:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: abc.net.au | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-16/byron-bay-church-of-ubuntu-worker-covid-vaccination/100703588 [02:47] TR Bot Byron Bay woman allegedly sacked by wellness clinic Church of Ubuntu for getting COVID jab - ABC News [02:49] TR News Lots of #webspam or #www as a #spamfarm today. Instead of articles you get ads, 'dressed up' lightly like they're "reviews" and "journalism". Frustrating. Move to Gemini, please, gradually... [02:50] TR News Open-source software holds the key to solving Log4Shell-like problems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158990?page=1#comment-32274 [02:50] TR Bot Security Alert: Apache Log4j Zero Day Exploit | Tux Machines [02:53] TR News #twitter and other #socialcontrolmedia site are NOT media but a FILTER against media, culling/leaving out coverage based on the #socialcontrol agenda of the owners. We need to reject that, embrace RSS feeds more and more. [02:54] TR News Do not ask yourself what you've discovered through #twitter and other #socialcontrolmedia sites. Ask what you were prevented from discovering; this is their business model. And it's about money, NOT fact-checking. ● Dec 25 [03:01] TR News When nations are run by well-organised cartels or what some have dubbed mafias we should not expect the legal system to curtail illegal operations; todays video takes stock of #Slovenia and then #Italy the subjects of last nights articles Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/epo-mafia-culture/ #Techrights #EPO| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/epo-mafia-culture/ [03:01] TR Bot The EPO Mafia | Techrights [03:02] TR News The concept of #softwarefreedom inside cars has become a distant fantasy; the #cars that are being manufactured nowadays disregard security and embrace unnecessary complexity Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/24/unnecessary-complexity-in-cars/ #Techrights #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/24/unnecessary-complexity-in-cars/ [03:02] TR News #RaspberryPi Mega Cluster Costs More Than $5,000 to Build Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159524 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:02] TR Bot Raspberry Pi Mega Cluster Costs More Than $5,000 to Build | Tux Machines [03:04] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [03:05] *inky (~inky@46.36.118.226) has joined #techrights [03:08] TR News Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159525 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:08] TR Bot Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [03:09] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [03:24] TR News December 25th... Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159526 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:24] TR Bot December 25th... | Tux Machines [03:26] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 384574 total Total number of pages in capsule: 38559 Active: active (running) since Sun 2021-10-10 09:33:45 BST; 2 months 14 days ago [03:26] TR News Another EFF https://www.citizen.co.za/news/2948411/christmas-marks-the-day-a-revolutionary-was-born-says-eff/ [03:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: citizen.co.za | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.citizen.co.za/news/2948411/christmas-marks-the-day-a-revolutionary-was-born-says-eff/ [03:26] TR Bot Christmas marks the day a revolutionary was born, says EFF [03:27] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 23 GB TotalOut: 5.9 GB [03:28] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:28] TR News #Rescuezilla needs to #deletegithub because no #gnu #linux distro should depend on #microsoft proprietary traps http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github [03:28] TR Bot Delete Github - Techrights [03:32] *techrights_guest|83 (~5198ee40@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [03:36] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 7.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 154.58 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.14 [03:38] IPFS QmVjqVfy1bLLkjPbYtUagNsq6vfXCToNocEPu1s2Cvo3ab [03:38] IPFS New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. [03:38] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, The lady that was complaining about the $10 to dry clean her coat... [03:38] DaemonFC Mom says that woman has $1.67 million in her _checking account_. [03:46] DaemonFC 6 [03:46] DaemonFC Err. [03:47] DaemonFC Mom says she bought a portable washer for herself from Amazon Warehouse Deals. [03:47] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, It said "Used - Like New". [03:47] DaemonFC When she got it, it looked like someone had rammed it full speed with a forklift. [03:47] DaemonFC They said they didn't want it back. [03:47] DaemonFC She said she went ahead and plugged it in and it works somehow. [03:49] DaemonFC She has appliances, but the electric in that building is so screwed up that it fries all of the appliances. [03:49] DaemonFC Pipes too. [03:58] TR News Today is test your backups day. I'm doing mine. Backups not properly tested may be worthless and assurance of disaster one day... ● Dec 25 [04:05] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, December 24, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:05] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:06] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:12] DaemonFC https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/rnvj36/leave_cookies_by_the_fireplace_for_santa_and/ [04:12] TR Bot Leave cookies by the fireplace for Santa and.. : funny [04:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 148.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.11 [04:58] schestowitz-TR2 freeing up 50gb of my main (home) partition [04:58] schestowitz-TR2 moving older video files there [04:58] schestowitz-TR2 will do the same with second and third external HDD [04:59] schestowitz-TR2 I still have an older external one,300gb [04:59] schestowitz-TR2 have not tested it in nearly a decade [04:59] schestowitz-TR2 wonder how those old drives cope with age ● Dec 25 [05:03] *asusbox2 (~rianne@joseon-r8ilsg.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [05:04] *asusbox has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [05:36] *techrights_guest|83 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [05:36] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 104.06 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.08 [05:53] TR News Improved #irc pages for #tuxmachines with indexes for past years too http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/132043 [05:53] TR Bot Tux Machines IRC Logs | Tux Machines [05:53] DaemonFC The funny thing is the landlord raised my rent about how much the laundry had been costing us. [05:53] DaemonFC I doubt he knows I can do my laundry in here. [05:54] DaemonFC Prices of all sorts of things have gone up much more than our rent. [05:54] DaemonFC So the two are probably unrelated. [05:54] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Apparently, over 160,000 people fled Illinois in the past 12 months, and only 5,760 have moved here. [05:55] DaemonFC Not that this is a shock. [05:55] DaemonFC That's the worst figure yet, but thanks to that idiot mayor, Lightfoot, I think it's eating into Chicago now. [05:56] DaemonFC It's a renter's market in the sense that things have not "right sized" yet. [05:56] DaemonFC There's a lot of landlords that suddenly have too much capacity and before the supply can adjust to demand, more people have left. [05:56] DaemonFC Our landlord has had one unit empty up on the second floor for months now. Can't seem to rent it to anybody, and I find it interesting he's having a hard time. [05:57] DaemonFC He's already the cheapest rent for miles. [05:57] DaemonFC We're living kind of in the ghetto, but it's also over next to the police station. [05:58] DaemonFC Like Carlin said, "People don't want to live next to a prison. Why not!? What do you think the criminals are going to do if they break out? Hang around!? Check out real estate trends?" ● Dec 25 [06:00] DaemonFC I plan to get vaccinated soon, against pneumonia. It's out there, it's serious, and COVID can drag down your immune system and open you up to infection by things you normally wouldn't get. [06:01] DaemonFC They seem to have "forgotten" all about flu, RSV, and pneumonia, and we had a very serious flare-up of RSV over the summer that baffled doctors completely. [06:05] TR News This coming week #tuxmachines shall exceed 120 million hits since last server reboot [06:05] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: very off topic [06:05] DaemonFC They're apparently working on mRNA vaccines for the flu and RSV. [06:06] *frankenstein has quit (Quit: I AM GOING TO HIDE FROM THE TOTALITARIANS AMONGST THE ZEBRAS!!!) [06:06] DaemonFC Now that the FDA has set such low efficacy standards that you can get anything approved, wait for the hype for very weak vaccines for all kinds of things that bankrupt our public healthcare system like Medicaid and Medicare. [06:11] *frankenstein (~frankenstein@364qzw3cacaj2.irc) has joined #techrights [06:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [06:31] *frankenstein has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:32] *frankenstein (~frankenstein@364qzw3cacaj2.irc) has joined #techrights [06:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 19.25 k/sec., IPFS upstream 179.56 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.06 [06:35] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 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[07:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.91 k/sec., IPFS upstream 177.00 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.03 [07:44] *tdemin (~tdemin@q4ekxw9w3cfd2.irc) has joined #techrights ● Dec 25 [08:03] TR News xkcd: December 25th Launch https://xkcd.com/2559/ #xkcd [08:03] TR Bot December 25th Launch [08:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2559/ [08:06] TR News #Krita 5.0 is Here As a Last-Minute Christmas Gift From KDE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159460#comment-32275 [08:06] TR Bot Krita 5.0 Open-Source Digital Painting Software Officially Released, This Is Whats New | Tux Machines [08:10] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:14] TR News #merrychristmas to all who celebrate it [08:18] TR News " #rescuezilla 2.2 is the latest version for the operating system that is popular for system recovery." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159523#comment-32276 [08:18] TR Bot Rescuezilla 2.3 Swiss Army Knife of System Recovery Is Here, Based on Ubuntu 21.10 | Tux Machines [08:33] TR News NEWS #CommonDreams #Apple 'Don't Cross the Picket Line': Apple Workers Organize Christmas Eve Walkout https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/24/dont-cross-picket-line-apple-workers-organize-christmas-eve-walkout #microsoft the same: http://techrights.org/2021/12/21/the-microsoft-shuffle-making-ones-own-products-intentionally-defective/ [08:34] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/12/24/dont-cross-picket-line-apple-workers-organize-christmas-eve-walkout [08:34] TR Bot 'Don't Cross the Picket Line': Apple Workers Organize Christmas Eve Walkout [08:34] TR Bot The Microsoft Shuffle: Making Ones Own Products Intentionally Defective | Techrights [08:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.00 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 250.00 [08:48] TR News NEWS #Techdirt #Egypt Investigation Shows Egyptian Government [Cr]acked A Dissident's Phone Twice, Using Two Different Companies' #Malware https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211218/17433348145/investigation-shows-egyptian-government-hacked-dissidents-phone-twice-using-two-different-companies-malware.shtml [08:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: techdirt.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211218/17433348145/investigation-shows-egyptian-government-hacked-dissidents-phone-twice-using-two-different-companies-malware.shtml [08:48] TR Bot Shows Egyptian Government Hacked A Dissident's Phone Twice, Using Two Different Companies' Malware | Techdirt [08:51] TR News NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Nintendo Wins High Court Injunction to Block Access to Pirated Switch ROMs https://torrentfreak.com/nintendo-wins-high-court-injunction-to-block-access-to-pirated-switch-roms-211224/ [08:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: 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The "progress" as many users see it does not exist (it exists in fields of science where it is necessary to work with large amounts of data). It is not "progress", rather corporations trying hard to get money from users. [10:11] SomeH4x0r we don't need new hardware, nor do we need new software, with the exception of bugs. [10:13] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159533 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:13] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:13] TR News #FreeSoftware Reviews by Hamza Musa Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159534 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:13] TR Bot Free Software Reviews by Hamza Musa | Tux Machines [10:16] TR News Links 25/12/2021: #Rescuezilla 2.3 and Growing Backlash Against COVID-19 Patents Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/25/rescuezilla-2-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/25/rescuezilla-2-3/ [10:17] TR Bot Links 25/12/2021: Rescuezilla 2.3 and Growing Backlash Against COVID-19 Patents | Techrights [10:17] *hj88 (~5198ee40@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [10:17] *hj88 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [10:18] TR News Novelty Christmas Songs You Definitely Need Under Your Christmas Tree https://tedium.co/2021/12/24/best-christmas-novelty-music/ [10:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2021/12/24/best-christmas-novelty-music/ [10:18] TR Bot Novelty Christmas Songs You Definitely Need Under Your Christmas Tree [10:19] TR News "Around this time last year, Jonathan Worthington was writing their Advent Post called Reminiscence, refinement, revolution. Today, yours truly finds themselves writing a similar blog post after what can only be called a peculiar year in the world." https://raku-advent.blog/2021/12/25/future-proofing-the-raku-programming-language/ #rakulang #programming [10:19] TR Bot Day 25 Future-proofing the Raku Programming Language Raku Advent Calendar [10:20] TR News "It is past time for another release of Is Parallel #Programming Hard, And, If So, What Can You Do About It?. But first, what is the difference between an edition and a release?" https://paulmck.livejournal.com/66892.html [10:21] TR Bot Parallel Programming: December 2021 Update - Paul E. McKenney's Journal LiveJournal [10:28] *frankenstein (~frankenstein@awckzqf2m6m4w.irc) has joined #techrights [10:38] TR News "Some of these ideas stick, and many readers have attempted to put them into practice, taking on challenges like starting a business in FOSS or stepping up to be leaders in their communities. It makes me proud to see the difference youre making, and Im honored to have inspired many of you." https://drewdevault.com/2021/12/25/Use-me-as-a-resource.html [10:38] TR Bot Please use me as a resource [10:40] TR News WTH??? Starting this list with #microsoft #Proprietarysoftware that spies on everybody is poor taste and misunderstanding of #GNU #Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/best-ide-code-editors-for-linux/ [10:40] TR Bot The 10 Best IDEs and Code Editors for Linux [10:45] TR News Flatcar #Container #Linux on #RaspberryPi | https://words.yudocaa.in/blog/flatcar-on-raspberry-pi/ [10:45] TR Bot Flatcar Container Linux on Raspberry Pi | [10:47] TR News World-famous #GTK themes for Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159535 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:47] TR Bot World-famous GTK themes for Linux | Tux Machines [10:51] TR News " #MintHCM is released under terms of the GNU Affero General Public License Version 3." https://medevel.com/minthcm/ [10:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/minthcm/ [10:51] TR Bot MintHCM is an open-source Human Capital Management for enterprise [10:53] TR News No, it is NOT "open-source" and it's example of misusing #microsoft #github for #proprietarySoftware #openwashing https://medevel.com/invoiceplane-invoicing/ [10:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/invoiceplane-invoicing/ [10:53] TR Bot InvoicePlane: An open-source, free invoicing system for teams [10:55] TR News " #Waistline application and source code are licensed under the GPLv3," but ought to #deletegithub as it is #proprietarySoftware of #microsoft (which is attacking the GPL) https://medevel.com/waistline/ [10:55] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/waistline/ [10:55] TR Bot Waistline is a free, privacy-first calorie counter and weight tracker [10:56] TR News " #CryptPad is released as an open-source under the AGPLv3 License." https://medevel.com/cryptpad/ [10:56] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/cryptpad/ [10:56] TR Bot CryptPad is an open-source, free collaborative web-based office system ● Dec 25 [11:04] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [11:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@t25x9hgy9xhrc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:21] *frankenstein has quit (Quit: I AM GOING TO HIDE FROM THE TOTALITARIANS AMONGST THE ZEBRAS!!!) 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Ask #billgates ... he knows all about young people love. http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ [15:43] TR Bot Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights [15:45] TR News " #Monero is an open-source, decentralized cryptocurrency created in April 2014 that focuses on privacy and decentralization. It runs on Windows, macOS, Linux, Android, and FreeBSD." https://www.techguide.com.au/news/cryptocurrency/how-to-buy-monero-in-australia/ [15:46] TR Bot How to Buy Monero in Australia - Tech Guide [15:46] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] *CrystalMath (~coderain@nqx8k9973g7e6.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:46] TR News #marketing spam in #nytimes ... disguised thinly as #journalism ? https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/business/radwood-cars.html [15:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/29/business/radwood-cars.html [15:46] TR Bot An Auto Show for the Raddest Cars of the 80s and 90s - The New York Times [15:48] psydroid4 although this sounds like a bit too much of a VC thing, it would be great if these companies such as IBM/DR would stop existing due to the world going fully decentralised [15:48] psydroid4 https://future.a16z.com/the-future-of-work-daos-crypto-networks/ [15:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: a16z.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://future.a16z.com/the-future-of-work-daos-crypto-networks/ [15:48] TR Bot The Future of Work is Not Corporate It's DAOs and Crypto Networks | Future [15:51] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHhZtA5mDTI [15:51] TR Bot Talk About "Realistic" Reloads... - YouTube [15:52] *inky (~inky@188.115.244.45) has joined #techrights [15:52] *inky has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [15:52] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159539 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:52] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:53] schestowitz__[TR] Lets Talk About "Realistic" Reloads... - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uHhZtA5mDTI [15:53] TR Bot Let's Talk About "Realistic" Reloads... - Invidious [15:53] *inky (~inky@109.75.39.32) has joined #techrights ● Dec 25 [16:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 7.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.88 [16:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 7.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 128.60 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.88 [16:13] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:15] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:16] *Noisytoot has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [16:17] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@jiz967bhsgr6i.irc) has joined #techrights [16:18] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [16:19] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@freenode/user/Noisytoot) has joined #techrights [16:25] MinceR (cat) https://files.catbox.moe/lz3gtr.jpg [16:25] TR Bot connect to files.catbox.moe:443; Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://files.catbox.moe/lz3gtr.jpg ) [16:31] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.129.116) has joined #techrights [16:31] TR News #EliLilly should just slap "COVID" on it and then nobody in then media would dare report on it https://www.fiercepharma.com/marketing/embarrassment-main-cause-under-reporting-symptoms-ulcerative-colitis [16:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercepharma.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercepharma.com/marketing/embarrassment-main-cause-under-reporting-symptoms-ulcerative-colitis [16:31] TR Bot Lilly finds embarrassment main cause of underreporting of symptoms in ulcerative colitis | FiercePharma [16:33] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:35] TR News "At the same time, DIN SPEC 3105 is also the first standard that was and was developed under an open license by the open source community together with the German Institute for Standardization (DIN e.V.) is free to everyone." https://marketresearchtelecast.com/din-spec-3105-documenting-open-hardware-in-a-standardized-manner/230325/ [16:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: marketresearchtelecast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://marketresearchtelecast.com/din-spec-3105-documenting-open-hardware-in-a-standardized-manner/230325/ [16:35] TR Bot DIN SPEC 3105: Documenting open hardware in a standardized manner - Market Research Telecast [16:35] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: ^ [16:35] schestowitz__[TR] https://www.heise.de/hintergrund/DIN-SPEC-3105-Offene-Hardware-standardisiert-dokumentieren-6292448.html?wt_mc=rss.red.ho.ho.atom.beitrag.beitrag [16:35] TR Bot DIN SPEC 3105: Offene Hardware standardisiert dokumentieren | heise online [16:38] TR News Cascade is a new promising image editor https://medevel.com/cascade-image-editor/ "Cascade is released under GPL-3.0 License." [16:38] Alternative link Cloudflare: medevel.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/cascade-image-editor/ [16:38] TR Bot Cascade is a new promising image editor [16:40] TR News #KiCad 6 is coming! A comprehensive review - Tech Explorations https://techexplorations.com/blog/kicad/kicad-6-review-new-and-improved-features/ old from #techexplorations but it is now officially release [16:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: techexplorations.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techexplorations.com/blog/kicad/kicad-6-review-new-and-improved-features/ [16:40] TR Bot KiCad 6 is coming! A comprehensive review - Tech Explorations [16:42] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:44] *inky_ has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [16:50] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.129.116) has joined #techrights [16:51] *inky_ has quit (Client Quit) [16:51] *inky_ (~inky@178.78.129.116) has joined #techrights [16:54] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [16:58] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/796514.jpg [16:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/796514.jpg ● Dec 25 [17:03] activelow schestowitz-TR2: noticed [17:03] activelow i am missing some reference to digital circuit description, such as Verilog, what i am thinking of first with "open hardware" [17:06] activelow a KiCad PCB schematic isn't sufficient to qualify as "open hardware" (gitatron, mycpu, z80 SoC), regardless of license terms [17:27] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797989.png [17:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797989.png [17:31] frankenstein what do you guys think of tutanota? [17:32] SomeH4x0r evil: does not allow external clients, enforces the web interface [17:32] SomeH4x0r attempts to "prove" PGP is useless [17:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 18.23 k/sec., IPFS upstream 211.31 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.85 [17:35] SomeH4x0r techrights is hostile to the web, suggesting Gemini as the replacement for serving static pages [17:35] SomeH4x0r mail has to be done using standard protocols for it, which are IMAP, POP3 and SMTP [17:47] frankenstein yes, i see... [17:47] frankenstein you're entirely correct. [17:47] frankenstein okay [17:47] frankenstein ty [17:47] frankenstein brb [17:47] SomeH4x0r yw ● Dec 25 [18:05] activelow no specific provider is required to implement end-to-end secured eMail; and such providers breaking established standards is even worse. [18:06] activelow furthermore, lack of qualified email signatures by default(!) is more problematic than end-to-end encryption itself [18:09] activelow for a while, i signed my emails with gnupg (didn't encrypt them), and this sufficed already to trigger alarm with "virus scanners" rejecting an ASCII file with signature [18:11] SomeH4x0r instead of helping against malware, these "virus scanners" block good stuff (e.g. warez) and allow bad stuff (e.g. rootkits claiming to be "anti-cheats) [18:12] SomeH4x0r *"anti-cheats" [18:13] SomeH4x0r and the risk of getting malware can be minimized by being careful when downloading things, and sandboxing/virtualizing suspicious stuff [18:15] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zvy9y8s293m5q.irc) has joined #techrights [18:15] SomeH4x0r hi [18:15] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797930.jpg [18:15] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797930.jpg [18:18] *frankenstein has quit (Quit: I AM GOING TO HIDE FROM THE TOTALITARIANS AMONGST THE ZEBRAS!!!) [18:21] *frankenstein (~frankenstein@awckzqf2m6m4w.irc) has joined #techrights [18:35] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:46] activelow SomeH4x0r: how is this related to email signatures and malicious services providers??? [18:46] SomeH4x0r scanners removing signatures, that's it [18:49] *mib_2lj4t4 (~325da38d@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, MARISOL's elite cancer hospital had to cut off all of the bribes to the Republicans last year and start accepting Medicare and Medicaid. [18:50] DaemonFC Oh how the mighty have fallen. :) [18:55] *psydroid4 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:59] ebin oops https://github.com/microsoft/cups/commit/ad69bcc78bdea3fea3f09fe56674daea821bb407 [18:59] TR Bot LICENSE to template content microsoft/cups@ad69bcc GitHub ● Dec 25 [19:00] XRevan86 > The bug was caused by a bot that was designed to commit template files in new repositories. It's code that I wrote to try to prevent other problems we have had with releasing projects in the past. It's not supposed to run on forks. [19:01] XRevan86 oopsie-doopsie [19:01] XRevan86 Not in this repository though, the change remains. [19:02] ebin no biggie ;) [19:04] *inky (~inky@46.71.40.121) has joined #techrights [19:08] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [19:17] DaemonFC GitHub makes it much easier for people who don't actually know how to use git to fuck up their own repository. [19:18] DaemonFC Sometimes without even realizing it for months or years. [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 :-) [19:18] schestowitz-TR2 for failed biologists [19:18] DaemonFC Hopefully he doesn't ever reproduce. [19:19] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Higan completely stalled out after byuu ditched the GPLv3. [19:20] DaemonFC Although, some buzzards came by and started incorporating parts of it into proprietary software. [19:20] schestowitz-TR2 i see [19:20] DaemonFC I'm surprised Nintendo keeps making their own emulators which suck so bad. [19:21] DaemonFC There's code out there that actually works that they could use instead. [19:25] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [19:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 8.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 133.73 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.82 [19:40] MinceR (cat) https://i.imgur.com/BgB8gaS.jpeg [19:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgur.com/BgB8gaS.jpeg [19:50] *Noisytoot has quit (Excess Flood) [19:53] *Noisytoot (~noisytoot@sourcehut/user/noisytoot) has joined #techrights [19:57] *activelow whines [19:57] activelow gentoo/crossdev is buggy... seems it was pure luck the gcc-4.7.4 canadian cross succeeded before [19:58] activelow any later gcc (6.x .. 7.x) has problems to cross-compile it's own libstdc++; not sure why [19:59] activelow back to where i halted few days ago, gcc-4.7.4 and a linux kernel v5.10 which failed to compile with this desired gcc version ● Dec 25 [20:00] activelow would be curious, who was responsible for this: 1) gcc reimplemented with c++ dependency and 2) linux kernel since 5.8 requiring any GCC or Clang which itself is c++ [20:01] activelow maybe, i'm mistaken with my judgement; nonetheless i consider this as severe as rustification of linux kernel [20:01] activelow i'll try to patch kernel 5.10 next to compile with gcc-4.7.4, see how this goes... [20:02] XRevan86 activelow: It's a global GNU conspiracy to get people hooked onto C++. [20:02] activelow XRevan86: don't mock me [20:02] XRevan86 activelow: I make no promises. [20:03] activelow strange attitude for someone affiliated with free software [20:03] activelow because, i see GNU and free software failing, with no way back [20:04] XRevan86 activelow: And the way ye see it is through C++? [20:04] activelow no, not c++ itself, explained it already; problem is c++ and dependencies and the compiler sneaked into where it doesn't belong [20:05] *inky_ (~inky@188.115.244.189) has joined #techrights [20:05] XRevan86 activelow: The GCC people decided that C++ is making their life easier. And LLVM with clang are inseparable from C++ by nature. [20:06] activelow and it is an epic mistake [20:06] XRevan86 activelow: So what is the practical consequence? [20:06] SomeH4x0r activelow: is there any escape though? Like abandoning GNU in favor of something else. [20:06] activelow sure there is [20:07] XRevan86 SomeH4x0r: We don't have any other sophisticated compiler. But activelow has another opinion. [20:07] activelow for example: i) openbsd kernel was known to compile with PCC compiler, very nice if the desired kernel versions supports the hardware ii) linux kernel 2.6 was known to compile with tinycc , sadly outdated already [20:07] XRevan86 Linux developers are not going to jump through hoops just to get it going with an ancient version of GCC. [20:08] SomeH4x0r "Linux developers" are mostly corporations interested in money anyway [20:08] activelow iii) SDCC compiler is GPL too, and supports various microcontroller targets with FuzixOS, which seems alot of fun given Alan Cox departed there [20:08] XRevan86 SomeH4x0r: It doesn't even matter if so or not. [20:08] activelow iv) my fork which requires patches to kernel v5.10 to compile with gcc-4.7.4 at least (and later tinycc or PCC) [20:08] XRevan86 SomeH4x0r: *No one* is going to run through hoops just to fulfill activelow's anti-C++ quest. [20:09] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:09] activelow i am not against c++, i oppose c++ where it doesn't belong: a dependency in the base system including kernel and compiler bootstrapping itself [20:09] XRevan86 "linux kernel 2.6 was known to compile with tinycc" <- "TCC claims to implement all of ANSI C (C89/C90), much of the C99 ISO standard,[3] and many GNU C extensions including inline assembly." [20:09] SomeH4x0r computing is fucked up [20:10] XRevan86 Seems like tinycc was trying to be compatible with GCC, maybe that allowed it to compile Linux. [20:10] XRevan86 But tinycc is pretty dead and GCC and Linux are not. [20:11] activelow i'll try gcc-4.7.4 first (as the last known good compiler) [20:11] activelow problem with this one: no aarch64 support, and my rockchip SBC here require either kernel 4.4 (broken patches required) or kernel 5.9 (requires newer gcc) at least... it sucks [20:11] XRevan86 And again Linux developers will not run through hoops limiting their options to a subset of C or GNU extensions to support tinycc, which is not even a good compiler to begin with. [20:12] activelow how was ANSI C89/90/99 supposed to be limiting? [20:13] activelow if it was MISRA C i might have agreed [20:13] XRevan86 And even when Linux would compile, they'd have to account for it having barely any optimisations and add inline assembly to compensate. [20:14] activelow my argument isn't Linux developers should focus on tinycc or pcc, problem is they locked out sane and relatively simple standards compliant compilers available [20:14] XRevan86 activelow: Write one then. Clang could do it, maybe ye can too (but without C++ this time). [20:14] XRevan86 "sane and relatively simple standards compliant compilers available" <- name one that isn't dead. [20:15] activelow XRevan86: pardon? [20:15] activelow the compilers already exist, tinycc, pcc, and gcc-4.7.4 which Linux locked out [20:15] XRevan86 activelow: Ye keep naming dead stuff. [20:16] activelow i keep naming standards compliant compilers [20:16] XRevan86 Linux used GNU extensions since day 1. [20:16] XRevan86 And "C99" is only standards compliant if the standard is C99. [20:17] activelow ok, why then doesn't linux kernel compile with PCC, TinyCC, or gcc-4.7.4 anymore? i do not know. [20:17] XRevan86 activelow: Well, check why. I can assure you it's not an artificial restriction like "if PCC then fail". [20:18] activelow XRevan86: already checked. it is intentional since kernel v5.8 which explicitely asks for GCC and a specific version, or Clang [20:18] activelow otherwise #error compiler not supported [20:18] XRevan86 activelow: Alter the build system and see if it builds. [20:18] activelow that's the plan next, yes [20:18] XRevan86 just for entertainment value [20:19] activelow with gcc-4.7.4 first [20:19] activelow and it isn't "entertaining" to see GNU/Linux fail, it is sad. [20:21] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:21] XRevan86 And also all the *BSDs, Illumos and HaikuOS. [20:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@suig26pxj59pi.irc) has joined #techrights [20:24] activelow didn't say so... OpenBSD did verify PCC year 2007, and linux kernel 2.6 verified tinycc long time ago too [20:25] activelow and, SDCC compiler is GPL too, FuzixOS etc. [20:45] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:56] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zvy9y8s293m5q.irc) has joined #techrights [20:56] DaemonFC Well, not Lutris Wine "GE" 6.16 doesn't work at all. [20:56] DaemonFC *now [20:58] MinceR (fox) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797899.jpg [20:58] Alternative link Cloudflare: hugelolcdn.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/797899.jpg [20:59] XRevan86 DaemonFC: GE? ● Dec 25 [21:00] DaemonFC Actually, now no version of Wine installed by Lutris can run Fallout 4. [21:01] DaemonFC Okay, I figured it out. [21:01] DaemonFC Lutris Runtime got disabled somehow. [21:01] MinceR General Electric [21:01] DaemonFC It's based on the "Steam Runtime". [21:01] DaemonFC It's basically a bunch of Ubuntu libraries. [21:02] DaemonFC This whole thing is hack on top of hack. 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[21:28] activelow btw, reminds me. had a phone call with my father today, who worked as a steel worker in east-germany [21:29] activelow all workers were handed out gas masks, in fear of a chemical weapons attack from the west, and were ordered to wear these masks during working hours [21:30] activelow not regularly, must have been 30 years ago, when i was 10years old, when he showed me this east-german gas mask [21:32] activelow plans in saxony are to separate vaccinated from unvaccinated, in different shopping mals and grocery stores [21:33] activelow vaccinated are denied entrance into grocery stores of unvaccinated and vice versa; no idea how government intends to verify this reliably, with the "corona app" on "smartphones" [21:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.16 k/sec., IPFS upstream 105.93 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.79 [21:41] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:43] *immibis_ is now known as immibis [21:43] schestowitz__[TR] MinceR: that's some bad-arse akita [21:44] XRevan86 Ariadne: In ST:E Hoshi can learn a language to an Upper Intermediate level in a day. I'm sure in later seasons it will be revealed that she is literally magical :). [21:46] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:47] MinceR schestowitz__[TR]: it's not [21:47] XRevan86 Yea, I'm still on Season 1. [21:48] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@zvy9y8s293m5q.irc) has joined #techrights [21:50] *mib_2lj4t4 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [21:52] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:56] schestowitz__[TR] MinceR: every fox is an akita waiting to be "dicovered" [21:56] MinceR no [21:56] schestowitz__[TR] opposite? 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Read more [23:21] TR Bot How to compress images in Linux like magic with E-mage [23:22] schestowitz__[TR] < Who Gave the #ArchLinux Wiki A Mobile Theme!! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ezEbNM9_ETY #video #invidious #gnu #linux [23:22] TR Bot Who Gave the Arch Linux Wiki A Mobile Theme!! - Invidious [23:23] TR News #Ubuntu Desktop vs Server: Differences, Similarities & More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159548 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:23] TR Bot Ubuntu Desktop vs Server: Differences, Similarities & More | Tux Machines [23:27] *frankenstein has quit (Quit: I AM GOING TO HIDE FROM THE TOTALITARIANS AMONGST THE ZEBRAS!!!) [23:28] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159549 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:28] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:28] TR News New Videos About GNU/Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159550 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:28] TR Bot New Videos About GNU/Linux | Tux Machines [23:34] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 9.06 k/sec., IPFS upstream 87.48 average k/sec., average swarm size 249.76 [23:40] *frankenstein (~frankenstein@awckzqf2m6m4w.irc) has joined #techrights [23:42] TR News [Meme] #Lawyers With Their Letters... Techrights http://techrights.org/2021/12/25/sending-a-letter/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/12/25/sending-a-letter/ [23:42] TR Bot [Meme] Lawyers With Their Letters | Techrights [23:55] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@bs7zfy7xzt3k4.irc) has joined #techrights [23:56] DaemonFC We went to the Chinese restaurant. [23:56] DaemonFC Some trashy women got into a slap fight. [23:56] DaemonFC Then threw their desserts and drinks at each other and then left without paying their bill. [23:57] schestowitz-TR2 did you pay your mom's bill? [23:57] schestowitz-TR2 :-p [23:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Might have something dramatic to say here about how poverty causes people to be stupid and go out wearing spandex when they weigh 30 stone. [23:58] TR News Supporting DirectX 12 On Mac Is Proving Tougher Than Linux But Work Is Underway | HotHardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159432#comment-32284 [23:58] TR Bot Wine Progress: Wine on Wayland and CodeWeavers Working on VKD3D | Tux Machines [23:58] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, This Lutris thing would be a better idea if they packaged it as a Flatpak. [23:58] TR News #PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.2.7, 4.1.10, 4.0.17 and 3.7.22 released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/159551 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:58] TR Bot PostgreSQL: Pgpool-II 4.2.7, 4.1.10, 4.0.17 and 3.7.22 released. | Tux Machines [23:58] DaemonFC They could include their Runtimes as part of the Flatpak. [23:59] schestowitz-TR2 Flatpak is not the right approach [23:59] schestowitz-TR2 it is a compromise [23:59] DaemonFC I can't see much of a reason to do the Steam Runtime in Lutris except for the fact that people might be playing pirated games that originated in Steam. [23:59] schestowitz-TR2 same for appimage fwiw [23:59] DaemonFC Then they may not work unless they are running with those libraries.