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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: Its kind of the same kind of answer as those who have sex in public.Jan 26 00:29
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DaemonFC[m]I've done that. Jan 26 00:47
DaemonFC[m]It's been longer than the statute of limitations, so heh.Jan 26 00:47
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/1912223Jan 26 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJan 26 02:30
DaemonFC[m]https://i.imgur.com/gJLuFYI.gifJan 26 02:39
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MinceR:)Jan 26 02:41
DaemonFC[m]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPBgUKGdYkJan 26 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Terminator Soundtrack - Burning In The Third Degree - YouTubeJan 26 02:42
DaemonFC[m]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM0mWXIUgt8Jan 26 02:43
DaemonFC[m]I found the complete soundtrack in FLAC on some Russian site.Jan 26 02:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Terminator Soundtrack - Photoplay - YouTubeJan 26 02:43
DaemonFC[m]Converted them to WavPack. B-)Jan 26 02:43
MinceR:)Jan 26 02:51
danielp3344I'm almost through the first doctor nowJan 26 02:54
danielp3344only two more episodesJan 26 02:54
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTxBc_-XxmIJan 26 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Escape From New York Theme - YouTubeJan 26 02:55
danielp3344I've already watched half of the second doctor, then on to the good onesJan 26 02:56
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cwi0pkhoSEJan 26 03:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brad Fiedel - "Terminator Theme (Extended)" (The Terminator OST) - YouTubeJan 26 03:03
DaemonFC[m]Newpipe is giving me a guru meditation error now.Jan 26 03:44
DaemonFC[m]Great.Jan 26 03:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133320 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fb21328d-881a-46d4-a28c-55ec8c3cffc9]Jan 26 03:54
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 5 Reasons Why Would You Want to Use Manjaro Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133323 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0529b678-0fd7-4a50-aa74-78ef22264c52]Jan 26 04:58
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schestowitzhi Klem_von_MetJan 26 06:23
schestowitznew here?Jan 26 06:23
Klem_von_MetI amJan 26 06:24
schestowitzwelcome..Jan 26 06:24
Klem_von_Metfound the website and saw there was an IRC...sleepless and figured why not joinJan 26 06:24
Klem_von_MetAnything interesting going on with you or the channel schestowitz?Jan 26 06:28
schestowitzplanning articlesJan 26 06:29
Klem_von_MetOh cool i'll let you get to it then but if anyone else is around and wants to chat I'll be around  Jan 26 06:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It might just be a coincidence, but Bing's share of the search market dropped by 2/3rds right after they implemented those filters to stop child pornography from appearing in their video/image results. Jan 26 07:06
DaemonFC[m]That's terrifying, disgusting, and hysterical at the same time.Jan 26 07:06
DaemonFC[m]Google went from 88% of search volume in the past 3 months to 92%, while Bing fell from 6% to 2%.Jan 26 07:08
DaemonFC[m]According to the New York Times article, Microsoft only implemented the filters after the NYT exposed what was going on at Bing.Jan 26 07:09
DaemonFC[m]It's possible, likely, that Microsoft was aware of what Bing was being used for and decided that it brought in ad revenue and nobody had complained yet. Then they were shocked, shocked....Jan 26 07:10
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Apparently, Terminator: Dark Fate didn't do well.Jan 26 07:13
DaemonFC[m]There haven't been too many just downright awful Terminator movies. Just T3.Jan 26 07:13
Klem_von_MetListen at the end of the day the people running Microsoft have to increase shareholder value and that comes first. If the lawyers sign off that Microsoft is doing everything they can then they're happy to let it ride.Jan 26 07:14
DaemonFC[m]If Dark Fate had been "Terminator 3: Dark Fate" it would have done well, and by rebooting, they tried that, but people are burned out at this point.Jan 26 07:14
DaemonFC[m]> Listen at the end of the day the people running Microsoft have to increase shareholder value and that comes first. If the lawyers sign off that Microsoft is doing everything they can then they're happy to let it ride.Jan 26 07:15
DaemonFC[m]They weren't.Jan 26 07:15
DaemonFC[m]According to the NYT, all a person had to do was type in "kid porn" and Bing would come back with tons of it and suggest other searches.Jan 26 07:15
schestowitz[07:09] <DaemonFC[m]> According to the New York Times article, Microsoft only implemented the filters after the NYT exposed what was going on at Bing.Jan 26 07:15
schestowitzquick thoughts about this:Jan 26 07:15
schestowitz1) we covered it beforeJan 26 07:15
schestowitz2) Microsoft execs refused to comment  on this when askedJan 26 07:16
schestowitz3) this seems like old news, revisited...Jan 26 07:16
DaemonFC[m]I didn't notice. I was just reading a Wikipedia article about Bing and stumbled on that.Jan 26 07:16
schestowitz4) Microsoft does have pedophilia scandals... more than I see in relation to any other tech firmJan 26 07:16
schestowitzboingboing mentioned it last year in relation to nazi stuff... Microsoft encourages finding more of itJan 26 07:17
schestowitzthen the same for child pornJan 26 07:17
schestowitzhow hard can it be to just blacklist domain that has that?Jan 26 07:17
DaemonFC[m]If they don't get it under control, they should have their domain for bing seized or blocked.Jan 26 07:17
schestowitzIt's not like 1% of registered domains have illegal stuff on them, it's a lot less than thatJan 26 07:18
DaemonFC[m]The DHS seizes domains for far less.Jan 26 07:18
Klem_von_MetDo you suspect there is some sort of a tie in with pedophilia networks and people inside Microsoft?Jan 26 07:20
schestowitzno, not likelyJan 26 07:20
schestowitzonly incidentalJan 26 07:20
schestowitzSinofsky and his wife, according to NYTimes, might have someJan 26 07:20
schestowitzhe left Microsoft about a decade agoJan 26 07:21
schestowitzwhen Android was slaughtering Windows, which he was in charge ofJan 26 07:21
schestowitzIt would be interesting to know when exactly Epstein and the Gateses first metJan 26 07:21
schestowitzif in the 90s, then under what circumstancesJan 26 07:21
schestowitzthe tech right-hand man of Gates, a man from Croatia, is definitely very closeJan 26 07:22
schestowitzprobably the most trusted person to Epstein... who entrusted his ENTIRE WILL to himJan 26 07:22
schestowitzsome former Microsoft people told me stories, privatelyJan 26 07:22
oiaohmReally lot of pedophiles have gone after positions of power to hide their crimes.Jan 26 07:23
schestowitzthat's an hard argument to defendJan 26 07:24
schestowitzas it makes it sound as though one can just get positions of power at willJan 26 07:24
Klem_von_MetI think it's more likely that there are sensitive diplomatic reasons behind people being involved in such a thing.Jan 26 07:24
schestowitzon the other hand, one strand of theories says spy agencies entrap people in power using various things like infidelity or sex crimes to control them, to blackmail or threaten them with   dirtJan 26 07:25
Klem_von_MetrightJan 26 07:25
schestowitzthe latter I can believe more, MLK and COINTERPRO have solid evidenceJan 26 07:25
schestowitzthey used infidelity to try to cause him to kill himself rather than pick a prestigious awardJan 26 07:26
Klem_von_Metdid you ever hear of a guy who was a former NYPD detective named Jim Rothstein?Jan 26 07:26
schestowitz(we know because the FBI was broken into and we have have the letter from Edgar Hoover)Jan 26 07:26
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: never heard that name...Jan 26 07:26
schestowitzcontrol by self-shame https://www.theguardian.com/news/blog/2010/nov/29/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updatesJan 26 07:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | WikiLeaks US embassy cables: as it happened | News | The GuardianJan 26 07:27
schestowitz"Cablegate: WikiLeaks' diplomatic cable revelations so far ... State Hillary Clinton questioned the mental health of Argentina's President Cristina Fernandez, asking US diplomats to investigate whether she was on medication."Jan 26 07:29
schestowitzhttps://www.smh.com.au/technology/cablegate-wikileaks-diplomatic-cable-revelations-so-far-20101201-18g94.htmlJan 26 07:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smh.com.au | Cablegate: WikiLeaks' diplomatic cable revelations so farJan 26 07:29
Klem_von_MetHe has some mainly audio interviews posted online. The gist of it is that when he worked sex crimes in the 70s he kept uncovering what he called "human compromise" operations using kids and mainly focused on the UN people from other counrties. And everytime he'd collect anything solid or make an actual arrest it'd get shut down due to an invocation of national security protocolJan 26 07:29
oiaohmschestowitz: power of will is a factor.   As in how many hours you are willing to put into getting the job.  Please note its not just pedophiles who go after positions to hide crimes.    It can be a horrible motivating factor for a person to work lot harder than the average.Jan 26 07:29
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schestowitzsecret societies or fraternities like ENA in France can helpJan 26 07:31
schestowitzbut...Jan 26 07:31
Klem_von_MetAnd if we're (the US) doing it I'm sure everyone else is too. And it becomes a situation where if you don't do it we'll be at a loss and other countries will have an advantage over us.Jan 26 07:31
schestowitzI doubt there's some sort of entryism  by sex criminals, just greedy people with list for powerJan 26 07:31
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: source for b0ng [sic] share collapsing?Jan 26 07:32
schestowitzsounds like existential risk to this whole business unitJan 26 07:32
schestowitzmight explain why they're desperate and playing dirty in Google "apps"Jan 26 07:32
schestowitzhttps://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-bing-focing-wont-win-search-engine-warsJan 26 07:33
schestowitz"Fast forward to today, Bing still has a few problems that need to be addressed, and where Microsoft should put some extra attention towards, instead of forcing Bing down people’s throats. These include both search relevance and design — the two core areas of any search engine."Jan 26 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Microsoft Will Never Win the Search Engine Wars by Forcing People to Use Bing | Digital TrendsJan 26 07:33
schestowitz"The company says that this is designed for enterprise and business users to find relevant workplace information directly from the browser address bar, but we all know Microsoft is desperate to get more people using its search engine."Jan 26 07:33
schestowitzLoads of liesJan 26 07:33
schestowitz"designed for enterprise and business users"Jan 26 07:33
schestowitzWTH does that even mean?Jan 26 07:33
schestowitzDo we now expect to have "Business Edition" of Google Search(TM)?Jan 26 07:34
schestowitzBing Kiddie Edition(R)?Jan 26 07:34
Klem_von_MetMaybe bing has some sort of extra integration with windows and tracking searches and it was left open intentionally to track people searching for it, for one reason or another...Jan 26 07:35
schestowitzthey have tracked windows searches for over a decade, iircJan 26 07:37
oiaohmKlem_von_Met: how can you plan your next successful products without data about what users are trying to-do.Jan 26 07:37
schestowitzrms spoke about this in old talks, iircJan 26 07:37
schestowitzoiaohm: that's BI nonsenseJan 26 07:37
schestowitzan excuse for spyingJan 26 07:37
schestowitzthe typical "to improve customer service" when recording all callsJan 26 07:38
schestowitzor "to improve experience" when doing so-called 'telemetry'Jan 26 07:38
schestowitzdata which they often misuse and sellJan 26 07:38
oiaohmYou might call it BI nonsense but its a lot of the stupid logic behind it.Jan 26 07:38
oiaohmIncluding by the parties buying that data from those who collected it.Jan 26 07:39
schestowitz1) it should not be collectedJan 26 07:39
schestowitz2) it should not be soldJan 26 07:39
schestowitz3) it should be made illegal and in the EU it is already is, to an extent...Jan 26 07:39
oiaohmI don't disagree.   But if you are after the stupid modivation to it.Jan 26 07:40
Klem_von_MetWhy do you think windows 10 was free for so long? Microsoft has to make money somehow...."enhanced telemetry" etc..Jan 26 07:40
schestowitzis it just me or did other people notice reports about ADS in NOTEPAD?Jan 26 07:41
schestowitzOr WORDPAD?Jan 26 07:41
oiaohmRemember that BI nonsense is taught in large number of business courses world wide.Jan 26 07:41
Klem_von_MetI read OS X does it to but nowhere near to the same extantJan 26 07:41
oiaohmSo this is educated stupidity.Jan 26 07:41
schestowitzI haven't kept up with how they distinguish those two executablesJan 26 07:41
oiaohmIt was wordpad growing adveristements.Jan 26 07:42
schestowitzMozilla does itJan 26 07:42
schestowitzFirefox euphemises it as "telemetry"Jan 26 07:42
schestowitzPIA ha just blasted Mozilla for itJan 26 07:42
oiaohmMostly because for light document microsoft made wordpad good enough.Jan 26 07:42
schestowitzoiaohm: soon they'll bring it to the calculator, notepad and solitaire tooJan 26 07:42
Klem_von_Metchrome is probably not so much better....is there a less nosey browser to you knowledge?Jan 26 07:42
schestowitz"sorry, mate, I got distracted while calculating the bill, there was a gorgeous lady right in the middle of it... thanks, Microsoft..."Jan 26 07:43
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.itwriting.com/blog/1013-wordpad-in-windows-7-supports-open-xml-opendocument.html << I knew it was coming when you saw this back in 2008 when you remember how MS Office starter was.Jan 26 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itwriting.com | WordPad in Windows 7 supports Open XML, OpenDocument | Tim Anderson's IT WritingJan 26 07:43
schestowitzBTW, CALC.EXE in Windows 10 now spies on its users... don't tell me about "BI" being needed for people who merely put together some numbersJan 26 07:43
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: hard to tell when many are blobs. Opera, Vivaldi, MSI^H^H^HEDGEJan 26 07:44
schestowitzoiaohm: not proper supportJan 26 07:45
schestowitzwordpress isn't expressive eitherJan 26 07:45
schestowitzusers would be better off getting LO for freeJan 26 07:45
schestowitzWordPress is a gateway drug for OfficeJan 26 07:45
Klem_von_Metapparently there are backdoors built into the processors themselves. It was enough of a reason to cause Russia to switch over completely to ARMJan 26 07:46
schestowitzit fails to open your files, then Microsoft offers Office being 'rented'... until the next version comes out... to keep up with documents you cannot open anymoreJan 26 07:46
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: China and India alsoJan 26 07:46
schestowitzIndia bases it on risc-v, not sure what China bases it onJan 26 07:46
oiaohmschestowitz: I think spell checker is screwing with you and you types wordpress instead of wordpadJan 26 07:46
schestowitzI don't have thatJan 26 07:47
schestowitzI don't use a autcorrectJan 26 07:48
schestowitzexcept in the gym where the machines run android, that changes "bot" to "not"Jan 26 07:48
oiaohmSo human brain word swap.Jan 26 07:48
schestowitzbut yeah, I wrote WordPress twice by mistake Jan 26 07:48
schestowitzI rarely mention wordpadJan 26 07:49
schestowitzI type WordPress a lot, so many muscle memoryJan 26 07:49
schestowitzis wordpad still used by many?Jan 26 07:49
schestowitzI have not used Windows since 98'Jan 26 07:49
schestowitzin fact, no reason for anyone to use it anymore.... they can use LO insteadJan 26 07:50
oiaohmI find it used in places using libreoffice used as dominate for a few ooxml documents that refuse to open in libreoffice from outside.Jan 26 07:50
Klem_von_Metschestowitz: Didn't know ... I think I'm going to like this chat. Knowledgable people who are open to examining things outside the mainstream without jumping uncritically onto the the conspiracy bandwagon.Jan 26 07:50
schestowitzand it's free, it does not spy (well, Windows might spy on it, hence Microsoft upstream)Jan 26 07:50
oiaohmschestowitz: LO is basically not perfect yet.Jan 26 07:50
oiaohmIts getting there.Jan 26 07:50
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: thanks, yes, that is what we specialise inJan 26 07:51
schestowitzif it is verifiable, yet not mentioned much in the 'mainstream' (however one defines it), then there's a vacuum. Like  back doors knowhow, understanding the pale yellow dots on printouts (surveillance), other such stuffJan 26 07:52
schestowitzMuch of the media is still just perception managementJan 26 07:52
schestowitzthe clients and owners have 'necessary illusions' to impose, like "Democrats" and Biden being the sole alternative to TrumpJan 26 07:53
schestowitzCloud is another exampleJan 26 07:53
schestowitzit doesn't mean anything, it's just few massive US conglomerates trying to make it cool for all businesses around the world to outsource everything to them, data includedJan 26 07:53
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schestowitz(it used to be called "hosting")Jan 26 07:54
Klem_von_MetI've been reading a lot on crowd psychology and public relations lately and it makes you realize that the majority of what you read in the news especially what you read about hollywood is all manufacturedJan 26 07:54
Klem_von_Metand yeah I was having this convo earlier with someone else about the term "cloud" being a new name for a an old conceptJan 26 07:56
schestowitzwe call it clown computingJan 26 07:57
schestowitzwe used to call it fog computingJan 26 07:57
schestowitzbut then that term became a real thing, about 5 years ago...Jan 26 07:57
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Klem_von_MetDo you know anything about what's actually going on with this "new coronavirus" so much conflicting information...?Jan 26 08:02
schestowitzwhat are the conflicts? Have not seen any yet...Jan 26 08:03
schestowitzthe lockdown affects a Chinese population of almost 50 million now, Russia sealed the  border, it's not a pandemic as a case of it was found in Chicago (US)Jan 26 08:03
Klem_von_MetThere are people inside China reporting that the spread of it and the deathtoll are far greater than what's being reported. There are reports that the incubation period is fairly lengthy and there's no effective way to combat it because of that. I've seen speculation that it's a bio weapon which was accidently released from the Chinese themselves. That the US unleashed it on China hence Jan 26 08:09
Klem_von_Metthe possibly snarky comment from Trump to China on Twitter yesterday. And third that the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation supported a Lab which patented a novel coronavirus a few years ago and speculated that it may have something to do with his goal of population reductionJan 26 08:09
schestowitzthat would be typical chinaJan 26 08:16
schestowitzdownplaying death tollsJan 26 08:16
schestowitzlike it did  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosionsJan 26 08:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2015 Tianjin explosions - WikipediaJan 26 08:17
schestowitzbecause it kept happeningJan 26 08:17
schestowitzhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-47665190/china-chemical-blast-fires-rage-at-fertiliser-plantJan 26 08:17
schestowitzhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-47650986Jan 26 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | China chemical blast: Fires rage at fertiliser plant - BBC NewsJan 26 08:17
schestowitzThese are like explosives, the processes are similarJan 26 08:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | China chemical plant explosion kills six in Yancheng - BBC NewsJan 26 08:17
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: funny you should mention gatesJan 26 08:18
schestowitzI have an article about just that coming in 5 minutesJan 26 08:18
schestowitzhang onJan 26 08:18
schestowitzit'll be posted as "Opinion" and "Guest"Jan 26 08:18
schestowitzdone.Jan 26 08:31
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/01/26/advocates-of-population-control/Jan 26 08:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Opinion: If You Advocate Population Control and You Are Yourself Doubling in One Single Generation, Then You Might be Hypocritical | TechrightsJan 26 08:31
schestowitzjust added to http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique#2020Jan 26 08:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - TechrightsJan 26 08:32
Klem_von_Met@Title of Article: Unless of course you believe yourself to have superior genes and are an advocate of selective population control and eugenics...Jan 26 08:33
schestowitzread onJan 26 08:33
schestowitzI mentioned this at the endJan 26 08:33
schestowitzsomeone sent me two links about itJan 26 08:33
schestowitzbut I was reluctant to touch itJan 26 08:33
schestowitzI sanitised out the religion nutteryJan 26 08:33
schestowitzso I think this is now factual, at least...Jan 26 08:34
schestowitzwithout religion as a source or moral authority in any wayJan 26 08:34
schestowitz(another issue is, this has little to nothing to do with tech.... remotely related to science)Jan 26 08:35
Klem_von_MetI hear...I've noticed that as well that the media steers clear of anything eugenics related. I find it kind of stupid, just because Nazi's embraced it doesn't mean it's necessarily bad if done differently.Jan 26 08:41
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schestowitzthe word is the problemJan 26 09:00
schestowitzthere were some rebrandings Jan 26 09:00
schestowitzor related strandsJan 26 09:00
schestowitzfor instance, contraceptionJan 26 09:00
schestowitzor abortionsJan 26 09:00
schestowitzabstinence Jan 26 09:01
schestowitz"planned parenthood" is the most polite f ramingJan 26 09:01
schestowitzbecause is puts perceived control at the parents' sideJan 26 09:01
schestowitz"are you ready?Jan 26 09:01
schestowitz"did you plan?"Jan 26 09:01
schestowitzin reality, poverty makes the planningJan 26 09:02
schestowitzin practice it is also a de facto military dr aftJan 26 09:02
schestowitzesp. if you price higher edu out of reach and offer 'free college' for troops and vetsJan 26 09:02
Klem_von_MetYou ever hear of the Georgia guidestones?Jan 26 09:06
schestowitzno...Jan 26 09:08
Klem_von_Methttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_GuidestonesJan 26 09:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Georgia Guidestones - WikipediaJan 26 09:09
Klem_von_MetI feel like the plan to reduce world population like it says on the stones has begun...Jan 26 09:10
Klem_von_MetI think the push for acceptance of homosexuality and transgenderism is only to prevent kids being born.Jan 26 09:12
Klem_von_Met(not saying I'm anti-gay or even anti population reduction[depends on how] just that I noticed it)Jan 26 09:12
schestowitzdoubt itJan 26 09:13
schestowitzthere are other waysJan 26 09:13
schestowitzlike povertyJan 26 09:13
schestowitzlack of financial means to support a childJan 26 09:13
Klem_von_Metpoverty doesn't appear to stop people in 3rd world countriesJan 26 09:14
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: so what you alluded to was "Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity."?Jan 26 09:14
schestowitzToo vague to support any particular methodsJan 26 09:14
Klem_von_Metand Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.Jan 26 09:14
schestowitzchild mortality is high thereJan 26 09:15
schestowitzmore kids are an 'insurance' policyJan 26 09:15
schestowitzah, I missed number oneJan 26 09:15
schestowitzeven 500 million seems quite highJan 26 09:15
schestowitz"In June 1979, a man using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company on behalf of "a small group of loyal Americans", and commissioned the structure. Christian explained that the stones would function as a compass, calendar and clock"Jan 26 09:16
schestowitzWe don't even know who that isJan 26 09:16
Klem_von_MetNiger has like 7 kids per woman fertility rateJan 26 09:16
schestowitzbut the idea of number policing is not outlandishJan 26 09:16
schestowitzyes, north Africa has high population growth ratesJan 26 09:17
Klem_von_Metwell Niger's still sub-saharan Africa North Africa generally refers to the countries along the mediteraineanJan 26 09:17
Klem_von_Metand the rumor is RC Christian is Ted TurnerJan 26 09:18
schestowitzhe has 5 kidsJan 26 09:18
schestowitz3 wivedJan 26 09:18
schestowitzdivorced thriceJan 26 09:18
schestowitzI actually researched this several hours agoJan 26 09:18
schestowitzso much for "Christian"Jan 26 09:19
schestowitz fake one maybe...Jan 26 09:19
schestowitzwell, he does have the mustache  :-)Jan 26 09:20
schestowitz"In 2008, the stones were defaced with polyurethane paint and graffiti with slogans such as "Death to the new world order".[6] Wired magazine called the defacement "the first serious act of vandalism in the guidestones' history".[2] In September 2014, an employee of the Elbert County maintenance department contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation when the stones were vandalized with graffiti including the phrase "I Am Isis, goddess of Jan 26 09:21
schestowitzlove".[7]"Jan 26 09:21
schestowitzBefore ISIS meant the terror groupJan 26 09:21
schestowitz"Jan 26 09:22
schestowitzAuthor: R.C. ChristianJan 26 09:22
schestowitz(a pseudonyn) [sic]Jan 26 09:22
schestowitzSponsors: A small groupJan 26 09:22
schestowitzof Americans who seekJan 26 09:22
schestowitzthe Age of ReasonJan 26 09:22
schestowitz"Jan 26 09:22
schestowitz"Yoko Ono praised the inscribed messages as "a stirring call to rational thinking", while Wired stated that unspecified opponents have labeled them as the "Ten Commandments of the Antichrist".[2]"Jan 26 09:22
schestowitzOno is OKJan 26 09:22
schestowitzand means wellJan 26 09:22
schestowitzI suppose lower numbers would increase chances of world peaceJan 26 09:22
schestowitznot sure about control over like 20,000 nukesJan 26 09:23
schestowitz"Alex Jones's film Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement proposes that the guidestones are a harbinger of self-appointed elites who intend on exterminating most of the world's population"Jan 26 09:23
schestowitzpreaching to his paranoid cultJan 26 09:23
Klem_von_Metespecially if the average IQ was increased. Higher IQ = lower liklihood of violenceJan 26 09:23
Klem_von_Metwell I take anything Alex Jones says with a grain of saltJan 26 09:24
schestowitzwhat comes out of his mouth is not 100 PERCENT falseJan 26 09:25
schestowitzbut that's the problemJan 26 09:25
schestowitzthey spice up the BS  with some truthJan 26 09:26
schestowitzthis is how they attract some innocent souls to indoctrinateJan 26 09:26
schestowitzbut anyway, enough about them... higher IQ may but is not guaranteed to lower violanceJan 26 09:26
Klem_von_Metexactly. It also destoys the credibility of anyone who looks into these things...but yeah moving onJan 26 09:27
schestowitzalso, high IQ can make the violence more 'efficient' (nukes, lab-grown biological warfare)Jan 26 09:27
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: like eugenics.. if it's mentioned by Jones, watch outJan 26 09:27
schestowitzor Bilderberg meetingsJan 26 09:28
schestowitzjust mention them and they lump you in with those who are loudest about itJan 26 09:28
Klem_von_Metyeah but low IQ people are far more likely to erupt into violence if part of crowd for instanceJan 26 09:28
schestowitzyes, but..Jan 26 09:28
schestowitzthe 'gentleman' with high IQ can 'gently' eliminate people... in a well-meaning wayJan 26 09:29
schestowitzit can be done with covert sterilisation. "humane" gases, genetics...Jan 26 09:29
schestowitzso the whole "if religion went away" or "if all were smarter" then "no war" logic is a bit euphoricJan 26 09:30
schestowitzsecular societies can also be cruelJan 26 09:30
schestowitzdepending on the circumstancesJan 26 09:30
Klem_von_MetJohn D. Rockefeller once said I need a nation of workers not thinkers...and I think the idea is smart but not TOO smartJan 26 09:30
schestowitzif 10% were infected with something, would there be 'put to sleep' or efforts made to reintegrate them?Jan 26 09:30
schestowitzsomeone has to do the physical workJan 26 09:31
schestowitzand that cannot just be "THE WOMEN!"Jan 26 09:31
schestowitzrobots don't build themselves, except in proof of concept 'toy' examplesJan 26 09:31
schestowitzbuildings  need a process of assembly and extractionJan 26 09:31
schestowitzrepairs, infrastructureJan 26 09:32
schestowitzwill you offer the plumber a free Masters degree?Jan 26 09:32
schestowitzRockefeller dynasty  has for generations been detached from everyday reality because they're all born richJan 26 09:33
Klem_von_Methe was the first thoughJan 26 09:33
schestowitzmaybe in anglosaxon lands...Jan 26 09:34
schestowitzwe don't have a good understanding or record of what ancient egyptians saidJan 26 09:35
schestowitzand also Babylonians had a good grasp on sciencesJan 26 09:35
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Klem_von_Metno the Rockefeller dynasty isn't that old he was born in the late 1800sJan 26 09:36
schestowitzbut the late David was a child of the money alreadyJan 26 09:38
schestowitzso the real go-get-her/earners are long goneJan 26 09:39
Klem_von_Metyes he was David's grandfatherJan 26 09:39
schestowitzthose who actually made itJan 26 09:39
schestowitzsame for Kochs and RothschildJan 26 09:39
schestowitzAnschel was the original iircJan 26 09:39
schestowitzGates.... many generationJan 26 09:39
schestowitzI think he's the third, at least...Jan 26 09:40
Klem_von_MetAmschel yes he was supposed to be a Rabbi and when his mother got sick and died he was sent to apprentice with the OppenheimersJan 26 09:40
schestowitzi once read, a very long time ago, that his grandfather  was in politics or somethingJan 26 09:40
schestowitzI believe that precise info about it -- not puff/fluff/PR -- would be harder to find now. I read that a very long time ago.Jan 26 09:40
Klem_von_MetI once read that there's been so much conflicting info about the rothschilds put out for hundreds of years now(and some by themselves) that it's impossible to know what's what Jan 26 09:42
Klem_von_Metohhh gatesJan 26 09:42
Klem_von_Metyea i think he was a senator or somethingJan 26 09:42
schestowitzyes, that is what  I readJan 26 09:43
schestowitzbut I was unable to gather further info, it must be in the archives somewhere, not the Internet (not in reliable form anyway)Jan 26 09:43
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: we wrote a lot about the Rothschilds earlier this winter, in relation to their employment of Breton (EU Commissioner) and MacronJan 26 09:44
schestowitzand not even one person used the term anti-SemeticJan 26 09:44
schestowitzwhich is commonly how one discredits the very mentionJan 26 09:45
schestowitzI wonder what Gates Sr. net worth was when Micro-Soft startedJan 26 09:45
schestowitzhe had clout alreadyJan 26 09:45
schestowitzpolitical and financial, t he mother helped Bill get the deal with IBMJan 26 09:45
schestowitzbut good luck finding reliable info on the pertinent details. Maybe  textbooks on it, pre-1990, would be reliableJan 26 09:46
schestowitzafter that Micosoft was buying the media, making hagiographies and revisionismJan 26 09:46
Klem_von_Methttps://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8728797&mesg_id=8729326Jan 26 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democraticunderground.com | Democratic Underground - bill gates is the grandson & great-grandson of bankers. specifically, bankers who were president - Democratic UndergroundJan 26 09:49
Klem_von_Methe was born a lot richer than Trump was apparentlyJan 26 09:50
schestowitzI did not clickJan 26 09:50
schestowitzthe title discourages clickingJan 26 09:50
schestowitzthe domain name does not helpJan 26 09:50
schestowitzseems too toxicJan 26 09:50
schestowitzalso seems like a message boardJan 26 09:51
schestowitz"discuss"Jan 26 09:51
schestowitzso the veracity would be poorJan 26 09:51
Klem_von_Metit seems like it contains well researched links to legitimate sources and yes it is a message boardJan 26 09:51
schestowitz"forum"Jan 26 09:51
schestowitzbetter links to the original sources t henJan 26 09:51
Klem_von_MetsureJan 26 09:51
schestowitzeven if they are photographs of old booksJan 26 09:51
schestowitzthis way you skip the discrediting layerJan 26 09:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133329 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b13ba4b1-a70c-4e5e-a576-ff1a2a37415b]Jan 26 09:54
Klem_von_Metbasically they're broken links to google books listing page numbers discussing his maternal grandfather JW Maxwell a prominent banker from Seattle whose father was Senator of OregonJan 26 09:55
schestowitzKlem_von_Met: if we can do the above, I can issue an articleJan 26 09:55
schestowitzwe recently did one about KilldalJan 26 09:55
schestowitztrying to set historical records straight, as they're all being distorted even decades laterJan 26 09:56
schestowitzGates-funded papers did this as recently as 2 years ago, then wikipedia cites theseJan 26 09:56
schestowitzcan we find the books by their titles?Jan 26 09:57
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/01/05/history-canceled/Jan 26 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Death of Gary Kildall Remains a Mystery to This Date | TechrightsJan 26 09:57
Klem_von_MetImagine the kind of pull he has though...what do you think wikipedia does when a lawyer representing the Gates foundation call up and says WHAT IS THIS? WE'RE THE ONES MAKING SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO RUN YOUR SERVERS EVERY MONTH...what do you think they're going to do?Jan 26 09:59
schestowitzhe also pays MITJan 26 10:00
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/Jan 26 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | TechrightsJan 26 10:00
schestowitzSo they take the words of his lawyers as factJan 26 10:00
Klem_von_Metnot at all it's called a veiled threatJan 26 10:01
Klem_von_Metit's sending a messageJan 26 10:01
schestowitzif they already pay wikipediaJan 26 10:01
schestowitzthen they can threaten not to renewJan 26 10:01
Klem_von_Metyou do what we say or we won't continue to support your non-profit organizationJan 26 10:01
Klem_von_MetexactlyJan 26 10:01
schestowitzthat's a gentler form of bribeJan 26 10:01
Klem_von_MetyepJan 26 10:01
schestowitzwe bribe you already, we'll stop if...Jan 26 10:01
schestowitzMicrosoft does this with ad contracts of publishersJan 26 10:02
schestowitzanyway, if you can find some screenshots from books about the MaxwellsJan 26 10:02
schestowitzWe can seam that together with his bill's mom got him the famous 'break' with IBMJan 26 10:03
schestowitzAs that was their turning pointJan 26 10:03
schestowitznot spark of geniusJan 26 10:03
schestowitzspark of nepotismJan 26 10:03
Klem_von_Methttps://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&sxsrf=ACYBGNTpdK72idcEgKXWupovBsoYirObFw%3A1580032998208&ei=5mMtXqqsDOaD5wKmw7iACQ&q=JW+Maxwell+seattle&oq=JW+Maxwell+seattle&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2538.7178.0.7356.10.10.0.0.0.0.240.1093.7j1j2.10.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.4.514...33i299k1j33i10k1.0.SiKA-PJK9AwJan 26 10:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JW Maxwell seattle - Google SearchJan 26 10:04
Klem_von_Metthere's LOTS Jan 26 10:04
schestowitzJW is whose grandfather?Jan 26 10:04
schestowitzmom's or bill's?Jan 26 10:05
schestowitz"J. W. MAXWELL Vice-President Seattle National Bank.'Jan 26 10:05
schestowitzhttps://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZV_PAAAAMAAJ&q=JW+Maxwell+seattle&dq=JW+Maxwell+seattle&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiuttfwgaHnAhX0ShUIHdhJDswQ6AEIOzACJan 26 10:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-books.google.co.uk | The Bankers Magazine - Google BooksJan 26 10:05
Klem_von_Metbill's mother's fatherJan 26 10:05
schestowitzshe died of cancer quite earlyJan 26 10:05
schestowitzbreast cancer iircJan 26 10:06
schestowitzI wonder why does first, he or himJan 26 10:06
schestowitzlet's check...Jan 26 10:06
Klem_von_Metohhh okay there were 2 a father and then his son by the same name both bankersJan 26 10:06
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Maxwell_GatesJan 26 10:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mary Maxwell Gates - WikipediaJan 26 10:06
schestowitzdied at 64, not so young after allJan 26 10:07
schestowitz"Mary Ann Maxwell was born in Seattle, Washington, to James Willard Maxwell (Nebraska, 1901–1960), a banker, and his wife, whom he married in c. 1927, Adele Thompson (born c. 1903, probably born in Enumclaw, Washington).[4][5] Her grandfather, James Willard Maxwell (1864–1951), was president of the National City Bank in Seattle from 1911 to 1929 and a director of the Seattle branch of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco."Jan 26 10:07
schestowitzany scandals associated with the gandpa?Jan 26 10:08
schestowitzRemember, just being a banker does not in its own right make one malignantJan 26 10:08
Klem_von_Methttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafirst_BankJan 26 10:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Seafirst Bank - WikipediaJan 26 10:08
schestowitztrade is not necessarily maliceJan 26 10:08
schestowitzThis is what we found about EU President http://techrights.org/2019/12/21/albrecht-ladson-von-der-leyen/Jan 26 10:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Understanding Thierry Breton: Little Miss Ladson Goes to Brussels | TechrightsJan 26 10:09
schestowitzconnected to US slave tradeJan 26 10:09
Klem_von_Metoh wowJan 26 10:09
schestowitz"Seafirst had acquired a significant share of Penn Square's energy loan debt by participating in loans originated by that bank. Penn Square Bank collapsed in 1982"Jan 26 10:09
schestowitzCan we find a non-wiki link?Jan 26 10:09
schestowitzThis one is too glossyJan 26 10:09
schestowitzI imagine the references likewideJan 26 10:10
schestowitztampered by "PR needs"Jan 26 10:10
schestowitz"reputation management"Jan 26 10:10
schestowitz"perception experts/gurus.."Jan 26 10:10
schestowitzall those crappy terms that make me want to wash my hands :-)Jan 26 10:10
Klem_von_Metdo you know what goes on PR wise in the entertainment industry?Jan 26 10:12
schestowitzyou tell me...Jan 26 10:14
schestowitz(maybe it's something I already know or we published about)Jan 26 10:15
Klem_von_MetFirst of all a good percentage of the marriages are for PR purposes. It only works in CA because of their marriage laws are favorable to keeping your own money especially with a prenup. Then pretty much everything you read about any celebrity is just for publicity. When a star gets arrested for shoplifting for example, it's because their PR person told them to do it to drive up contrrversy.Jan 26 10:19
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schestowitzhmm... need citationJan 26 10:24
schestowitzyou mean like the famous shoplifter/actress?Jan 26 10:24
schestowitzkeeping one's wealth within the family when marrying isn't limited to HollywoodJan 26 10:24
schestowitzit's common practice everywhereJan 26 10:25
schestowitzin Muslim societies this even includes marrying within the family (cousins typically)Jan 26 10:25
Klem_von_Metno there are legitmate reasons for the law too what I'm saying is in other states you may still be able to sue the other person after several years of marriage even with a prenup but the CA laws are especially favorable to this type of PR marriageJan 26 10:32
Klem_von_Metit's not about keeping money in the family it's about not putting themselves in a situation where the person your publicist told you to marry can now take your money from youJan 26 10:33
schestowitzok, but that would not be so unusual a thingJan 26 10:37
schestowitzmany people marry for reasons that are questionable, also in the business worldJan 26 10:37
schestowitzthat CA (HL, Beverly Hills etc.) has particular laws might make (common) senseJan 26 10:37
schestowitzand hardly be seen as a scandalJan 26 10:37
schestowitzIt's the same in music celebs... popJan 26 10:38
schestowitzUS pop, British pop, j/kpopJan 26 10:38
schestowitzpublic perception and branding play a roleJan 26 10:38
schestowitz"BRA[N]DELINA"Jan 26 10:38
schestowitzAngelina, BradJan 26 10:38
schestowitzwith their mixed pair of kids and 'philanthropy' charm offensivesJan 26 10:39
schestowitzClooney and his UN/political Lebanese wifeJan 26 10:39
schestowitzLeaks showed them working closely with the Clintons, among othersJan 26 10:39
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schestowitzhttps://variety.com/2015/biz/news/ben-affleck-slavery-pbs-censor-ancestors-1201477075/Jan 26 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ben Affleck Apologizes for PBS Slavery Censorship: ‘I Was Embarrassed’ – VarietyJan 26 10:42
schestowitzhttps://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/may/17/ben-affleck-slave-owning-family-tree-recordsJan 26 10:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Ben Affleck's slave-owning family: records sketch a conflicted past | Film | The GuardianJan 26 10:42
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linuxgirlI nearly posted this yesterday, but, after seeing your Gates article, about population control, I'll just add this information which I found yesterday. Jan 26 10:43
schestowitzhiJan 26 10:43
schestowitzgo aheadJan 26 10:44
schestowitzwe were just discussing it here for like 3 hours...Jan 26 10:44
linuxgirlThere are a number of coronavirus patents, eg one filed in 2015 and granted in 2018, a US one, etc etc, BUT the Pirbright Institutet (UK) is linked in with the patents (of the INVENTED coronavirus) ... the Pirbright Institute has some major funders, that include the Gates Foundation. The page links through to the institute's patents on viruses andJan 26 10:44
linuxgirlvaccines. Jan 26 10:44
schestowitzand it is not about gates alone, it's a broader topicJan 26 10:45
linuxgirlOther major backers of the institute are UK government, WHO, EUJan 26 10:45
schestowitzcould it be related to preventionJan 26 10:45
schestowitzor reverse-engineering the threat?Jan 26 10:45
linuxgirlOdd that the coronavirus would emerge in Wuhan, where the only lab is that can deal with it ... and this is a biosafety-leve-4 lab, supposedly. Jan 26 10:46
schestowitzor is there suspicion that maybe they need lots of people to sell the cure to?Jan 26 10:46
linuxgirlThe seafood market being blamed is about 20 miles from the labJan 26 10:46
linuxgirlYes, that's what I was coming to ... produce the virus, and push the vaccine, definitelyJan 26 10:46
schestowitzany proof?Jan 26 10:46
schestowitzwith WHO and govts being involved?Jan 26 10:46
linuxgirlThe Wuhan lab stored Mersa and Ebola viruses ... could coronavirus be a hybrid possibly?Jan 26 10:47
linuxgirlYes, will get linksJan 26 10:47
schestowitzBTW, Gates has moles inside WHO... and even WHO people complained, so it's not really UN per seJan 26 10:47
schestowitzseems too risky a gambit for themJan 26 10:47
schestowitz(if they get caught manufacturing a crisis)Jan 26 10:48
linuxgirlOdd it happens right after Iran/plane shot down, and with the china protests going on too, and at the chinese new year (for maximum travel effect), and, of course, the UK is doing nothing about checking ppl at Heathrow ... just handing them a leaflet. And someone is spouting about 'we at the NHS are preparing', but I've seen nhs workers sayingJan 26 10:48
linuxgirlthere's been nothing said or doneJan 26 10:48
linuxgirlbrb, getting linksJan 26 10:48
linuxgirlhttps://patents.justia.com/search?q=coronavirusJan 26 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.justia.com | Search Patents - Justia Patents SearchJan 26 10:50
linuxgirlhttps://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701Jan 26 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.justia.com | US Patent for Coronavirus Patent (Patent # 10,130,701 issued November 20, 2018) - Justia Patents SearchJan 26 10:51
linuxgirlhttps://www.pirbright.ac.uk/news/2019/11/bill-melinda-gates-foundation-funds-development-pirbright%E2%80%99s-livestock-antibody-hubJan 26 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pirbright.ac.uk | Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation funds development of Pirbright’s Livestock Antibody Hub supporting animal and human health | The Pirbright InstituteJan 26 10:51
linuxgirlWas seeing various twitter (ie Nitter) bits and pieces, various vids, but these links summarise best. Jan 26 10:51
linuxgirlhttps://www.dcclothesline.com/2020/01/24/coincidence-a-u-s-patent-for-an-attenuated-coronavirus-was-filed-in-2015-and-granted-in-2018/Jan 26 10:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dcclothesline.com | Coincidence? A U.S. Patent For ‘An Attenuated Coronavirus’ Was Filed In 2015 And Granted In 2018 - DC ClotheslineJan 26 10:51
linuxgirlNot read the above site before, but it was one of the links I found along the way. Jan 26 10:52
linuxgirlAll seems to fit 100% with Gates' preference for getting rid of people and pushing his own interests. Jan 26 10:52
schestowitzI am not expertJan 26 10:53
schestowitzI don't know how Ebola worksJan 26 10:53
schestowitzor how that varies/differs from "corona" (who chose the name)Jan 26 10:53
schestowitzcan someone explain?Jan 26 10:53
schestowitzso I don't know what those patents cover and what for?Jan 26 10:53
linuxgirlHow Ebola works?Jan 26 10:54
schestowitzit's outside our expertise level hereJan 26 10:54
schestowitzwe're techies, not biologistsJan 26 10:54
linuxgirlThe patents are to do with coronavirus. Jan 26 10:54
schestowitzwhat about it? Breeding it?Jan 26 10:54
linuxgirlI'm just sharing that the coronavirus is patented, and Pirbright has major funding from Gates. Jan 26 10:54
schestowitzI doubt a patent gets granted just on an organismJan 26 10:54
schestowitzmaybe genetic modification of it, the processJan 26 10:54
linuxgirlCoronavirus is an invented virus. Jan 26 10:54
schestowitzmade from scratch? No...Jan 26 10:55
schestowitzhow is it "invente"?Jan 26 10:55
schestowitzhow is it "invented"?Jan 26 10:55
schestowitzI saw misinformed "tweets" about itJan 26 10:55
linuxgirlI'm not scientific either. The patent page says ... The coronavirus may be used as a vaccine for treating and/or preventing a disease, such as infectious bronchitis, in a subject. Jan 26 10:56
schestowitzbut tweets are worse than pure shitJan 26 10:56
schestowitzthey're not reliableJan 26 10:56
linuxgirlThese patent links are real, not TwitterJan 26 10:56
schestowitzthey just cite some CBC article -- one I can recall at leasJan 26 10:56
schestowitz*leastJan 26 10:56
linuxgirlthe reason I posted it is about Pirbright/Gates behind the patent informationJan 26 10:56
schestowitzmaybe they were breeding in a lot this microorganismJan 26 10:57
schestowitzand it got out of controlJan 26 10:57
schestowitzlike in some Planet of the Ape-typo oddball scenarioJan 26 10:57
schestowitz*typeJan 26 10:57
linuxgirlThe timing seems suspicious, and the fact that e.g. the UK are not really doing anything to stop it. Jan 26 10:57
schestowitzif we don't have understanding of it, we cannot say much as I cannot defend the assertionJan 26 10:57
schestowitzI'm a medical biophysicist, not a biologistJan 26 10:58
schestowitzI don't deal with things like these, never didJan 26 10:58
linuxgirlYou'd think they'd have learnt from the SARS and Ebola outbreaks eg to stop travel immediately, 100%, but no ... seeing images of chinese ppl strolling into heathrow, no checks, with a poster behind saying about coronavirus symptoms!Jan 26 10:58
schestowitzI feel un comfortable even commenting on CRISPR and antibody patentsJan 26 10:58
linuxgirlThe link is about Gates being behind the Pirbright place, which is listed on the coronavirus patent. Jan 26 10:58
Klem_von_Metanother idea could be it was released near the facility so people would just assume it must have came from the facilityJan 26 10:58
schestowitzhow many direct deaths so far?Jan 26 10:59
linuxgirlI just saw that, but have forgotten ... will check. Jan 26 10:59
schestowitzthe patents don't cover some serumJan 26 10:59
schestowitzdo it seems unlikely they can be used in any way for inoculationJan 26 11:00
linuxgirlThis poor girl is tweeting about it (I'm reading it on Nitter) ... 56 dead, 2000 infected, just in China ... https://nitter.net/JessiePang0125 Jan 26 11:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Jessie Pang (@JessiePang0125) | NitterJan 26 11:01
linuxgirlI've lost the link just now for the vaccine patents; trying to find itJan 26 11:01
schestowitzdo we have reliable sourcces?Jan 26 11:01
schestowitzKlem_von_Met (iirc) said the chinese were underplaying or lowballing the figuresJan 26 11:01
schestowitzforget about tweetsJan 26 11:02
schestowitzat best, they're based on someone who heard from another someone who is an expert and has inside infoJan 26 11:02
schestowitzbut that's indirection, second-hand broken-telephone gossipJan 26 11:02
schestowitzif there's a link in the tweet, better link to thatJan 26 11:02
schestowitztwitter is also weaponised by govts for misinformation and rallying masses home and abroadJan 26 11:03
linuxgirlJust an example, that contained the numbers. Jan 26 11:03
schestowitzit's a twutter accountJan 26 11:03
schestowitz*twitterJan 26 11:03
schestowitzaccount with 1900 "tweets"Jan 26 11:04
schestowitzbrainfartsJan 26 11:04
schestowitza link to ReutersJan 26 11:04
schestowitzowned by a rich Canadian spoiled bratJan 26 11:04
linuxgirlAs I said, an example. Jan 26 11:04
schestowitzmostly links to his site (Thompson)Jan 26 11:04
schestowitzanyway, the gateses put their money in lots of potsJan 26 11:05
schestowitzthey apparently also tried to bribe my employerJan 26 11:05
linuxgirlWhatever, just thought it would be salient to add in about Gates' connections via the Pirbright, to the coronavirus patent, after seeing the 'depopulation' article. Jan 26 11:05
schestowitza story for another day...Jan 26 11:05
schestowitzso let's focus on what actually proves this patent is in fact some part of a "conspiracy"Jan 26 11:05
linuxgirlGates is the proof?Jan 26 11:05
schestowitzGates also bribes perhaps thousands of publishers around the worldJan 26 11:06
schestowitzonly few of them announce this publiclyJan 26 11:06
schestowitzalmost all her (?) links are ReutersJan 26 11:06
schestowitzso we can just go to the sourceJan 26 11:07
linuxgirlwhose links?Jan 26 11:07
schestowitzowned and controlled by Canadian aristocracy Jan 26 11:07
linuxgirlthe Nitter account?Jan 26 11:07
schestowitzthe Twitter accountJan 26 11:07
linuxgirlthe patents are official, and the pirbright institute etc, plus of course Gates' recordJan 26 11:07
schestowitzyou can skip the Twitter indirection to see what Reuters says, not much added value to the tweets except lack of fact-checking I suppose ;-)Jan 26 11:07
schestowitzbut what do these patents tell us?Jan 26 11:07
linuxgirlIt's not the main thing; just a reference as you asked how many were dead. Jan 26 11:08
schestowitzyeah, that helpsJan 26 11:08
linuxgirlManufactured virus, and who is involved, and when. Jan 26 11:08
schestowitzwe do know some people die for itJan 26 11:08
schestowitzhow many we don't know yetJan 26 11:08
schestowitz<schestowitz> that would be typical chinaJan 26 11:08
schestowitz downplaying death tollsJan 26 11:08
schestowitz like it did  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosionsJan 26 11:08
linuxgirlThere'll be more. Ppl need to take care of themselves eg stay indoors if possible. Jan 26 11:08
schestowitz-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- en.wikipedia.org | 2015 Tianjin explosions - WikipediaJan 26 11:08
schestowitz<schestowitz> because it kept happeningJan 26 11:08
schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-china-47665190/china-chemical-blast-fires-rage-at-fertiliser-plantJan 26 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2015 Tianjin explosions - WikipediaJan 26 11:08
schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-47650986Jan 26 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | China chemical blast: Fires rage at fertiliser plant - BBC NewsJan 26 11:09
linuxgirlYes, the official figures will be lower. Jan 26 11:09
schestowitzthat's from a8m, 3 hours ago (GMT)Jan 26 11:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | China chemical plant explosion kills six in Yancheng - BBC NewsJan 26 11:09
schestowitz*8amJan 26 11:09
linuxgirlOkay, it was just to share about Gates' funding behind Pirbright, which links with the manufactured coronavirus. Not a big leap to think he'd support this kind of thing. There was a page I'd clicked through to, from a page about Pirbright, that listed Gates' virus and vaccine patents. Still trying to find, just before go. Jan 26 11:12
schestowitzare these articles about this from sites with higher reputation?Jan 26 11:14
schestowitznot criticising, just asking...Jan 26 11:14
schestowitzbecause from these we can extract quotes from experts and maybe some referencesJan 26 11:14
linuxgirlJust seen this now, but did a search and this page came up, saying more about Gates and virus/vaccine etc ... https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/etiwm8/coronavirus_bill_and_melinda_gates/ ... turn off javascript 1st may be best!Jan 26 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Coronavirus & Bill and Melinda Gates : conspiracyJan 26 11:14
schestowitzI cannot even open reddit pagesJan 26 11:15
schestowitzmy browser does not work with them :-)Jan 26 11:15
schestowitzand it's under one of the most laughable subs in redditJan 26 11:15
linuxgirlThe patents pages, and Pirbright, that state Gates funding, are solid. I don't know about the rest. Not scientific or into big research; just joined some dots and it felt important to follow that through. Jan 26 11:15
schestowitzthe one that links to techrights and then misrepresents what we actually wroteJan 26 11:15
linuxgirlThat doesn't mean the information is laughable. I didn't read it; just quickly skimmed. Jan 26 11:16
schestowitzI don't even know what it means to "makeJan 26 11:16
schestowitzto "make" itJan 26 11:16
schestowitzbreed maybe, or mutateJan 26 11:16
linuxgirlAnyway, gave solid links at the start, and all you're doing is ridiculing it all, so fuck this. Jan 26 11:16
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schestowitzbetter to publish something solid or none at allJan 26 11:17
Klem_von_Metit is possible but there's no solid proof of course there won't ever be if they're good at what they doJan 26 11:17
schestowitzso better stop there, for now....Jan 26 11:18
schestowitz[hollers] is  anybody here a BIOLOGIST? [/hollers] ;-)Jan 26 11:19
schestowitzI saw chartalan Shiva (the man who did NOT invent email) mentioned in relation to thisJan 26 11:19
schestowitzwhich does not help at all :-)Jan 26 11:19
schestowitzwhat does the reddit page reference?Jan 26 11:21
schestowitzI cannot even open itJan 26 11:21
Klem_von_Metdidn't look yet hang onJan 26 11:21
Klem_von_Methttps://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/inovio-selected-by-cepi-to-develop-vaccine-against-new-coronavirus-300992131.htmlJan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttps://animalpharm.agribusinessintelligence.informa.com/AP016529/Pirbright-bags-55m-from-Gates-Foundation-to-establish-livestock-antibody-hub?fbclid=IwAR3sHqYmd2fGlAEMUgi7-pc23-kASPRApAuiGmKKjaWz1eEkiFgH1WRsHX4Jan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttp://www.genels.com/en/sub0201.phpJan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttps://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/summary.htmlJan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttps://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(20)30011-4/fulltextJan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttps://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-buys-dna-from-twist-bioscience-2016-4/lightbox?r=AU&IR=T&jwsource=clJan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttp://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html?fbclid=IwAR1jYT9U1xU0kQBrkC_afsVMlMl3bsfAhzQeqFuyXJGzUsmjAgFc4S2IW9gJan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttps://patents.google.com/patent/US7220852Jan 26 11:23
Klem_von_Methttps://patents.google.com/patent/EP3172319B1/enJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Inovio Selected by CEPI to Develop Vaccine Against New CoronavirusJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 503 @ https://animalpharm.agribusinessintelligence.informa.com/AP016529/Pirbright-bags-55m-from-Gates-Foundation-to-establish-livestock-antibody-hub?fbclid=IwAR3sHqYmd2fGlAEMUgi7-pc23-kASPRApAuiGmKKjaWz1eEkiFgH1WRsHX4 )Jan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.genels.com | GeneOne Life ScienceJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cdc.gov | Novel Coronavirus 2019 Situation Summary, Wuhan, China | CDCJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.com | DEFINE_MEJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft buys DNA from Twist Bioscience - Business InsiderJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.centerforhealthsecurity.org | The Event 201 scenario | A pandemic tabletop exerciseJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.google.com | US7220852B1 - Coronavirus isolated from humans - Google PatentsJan 26 11:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patents.google.com | EP3172319B1 - Coronavirus - Google PatentsJan 26 11:24
Klem_von_MetIMO the most suspicious thing is the WHO excersise for a new coronavirus which took place last year where they simulate a virus killing 66m peopleJan 26 11:24
schestowitzwhich of the above covers this?Jan 26 11:24
schestowitzalso, did WHO run similar simulations in the past?Jan 26 11:25
Klem_von_Metcenterforhealthsecurity event201Jan 26 11:25
schestowitzthat is an interesting linkJan 26 11:27
schestowitzmaybe they foreaw a riskJan 26 11:27
schestowitzrather than manufactured the crisis?Jan 26 11:27
schestowitz"The disease starts in pig farms in Brazil, quietly and slowly at first, but then it starts to spread more rapidly in healthcare settings. When it starts to spread efficiently from person to person in the low-income, densely packed neighborhoods of some of the megacities in South America, the epidemic explodes. It is first exported by air travel to Portugal, the United States, and China and then to many other countries. Although at first Jan 26 11:28
schestowitzsome countries are able to control it, it continues to spread and be reintroduced, and eventually no country can maintain control."Jan 26 11:28
schestowitzThese things did happen beforeJan 26 11:28
schestowitzmaybe not with the same resultJan 26 11:28
schestowitzEurope has some major epidemics wiping out a lot of the populationJan 26 11:28
schestowitz see logo at bottom (Gates)Jan 26 11:29
schestowitzthat still does not prove causation, or intend to actually spread such a virusJan 26 11:30
schestowitzif it happened a decade ago, you'd be able to make a similar argumentJan 26 11:30
schestowitzbut to prove the correlation you need to hear from people in that labJan 26 11:30
schestowitzok, let me put it this wayJan 26 11:32
schestowitzput yourself in the shoes of a reuters editorJan 26 11:33
schestowitzwhere do you even start from such an hypothesis?Jan 26 11:33
schestowitzNo eyewitnesses, whistleblowers, or direct evidenceJan 26 11:33
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oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome-related_coronavirus  People forget SARS outbreak in 2003 was a coronavius not quite a lethal as this round.   So it was kind of preditable at some point we would get a dangerous form of coronavirusJan 26 12:05
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schestowitzthanksJan 26 12:10
schestowitzthat helps, oiaohmJan 26 12:10
schestowitzthe names don't help muchJan 26 12:11
schestowitzas we're led to think this whole thing is totally new, maybe the name isJan 26 12:11
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oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus  The Coronavirus line of viruses is not new.     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novel_coronavirus_(2019-nCoV)  The current version is this one.  Please note Novel means in virus terms we have not named this yet.Jan 26 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Coronavirus - WikipediaJan 26 13:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) - WikipediaJan 26 13:41
oiaohmBasically dealing with unnamed virus and the media not handling it well.Jan 26 13:41
oiaohmschestowitz: virus is left unamed when the medical are not sure if there is 1 strain or more strains.Jan 26 13:42
oiaohmIe how many viruses do they need to name.Jan 26 13:42
oiaohmschestowitz: also if you read the wiki you will notice the current data says sars releated on steriods.Jan 26 13:43
oiaohmBasically what was forcast has happened a worse form of sars has turned up.Jan 26 13:43
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schestowitzgood newsJan 26 14:42
schestowitzwe are liaising with victims' groupJan 26 14:42
schestowitzand they are making use of techrightsJan 26 14:42
schestowitzinformation-gathering etc.Jan 26 14:42
schestowitz===================================Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzI am the founder/editor of xxxxxxxxxxxxx - we ran from 2014 - end of 2016 (three years full time, publishing about 150 articles a year) and then I shut it down for a few years but am re-opening and beginning publishing again this year -- in the few years that I've been away from it, it's left a huge gap in this kind of coverage and people are really wanting us to bring this platform back more than ever -- Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzxxxxxxxx and I both work against child, teen sexual violence and violence against women of all forms more broadly. As more of Epstein's connections and investments in tech come to light, we are both very invested in making sure the tech infrastructure that supported him is ripped out... we've been tracking use of digital technology for pedophilia and ephebophilia for many years (xxxxxxgrooming-students-for-a-lifetime-of-surveillance, Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzxxxxxxxxx/news/whisper-exposed-glut-of-lies-and-abuse-by-consumer-app-companies-continues, xxxxxxxxxxx/news/snapchat-hacked-building-a-10-billion-dollar-business-on-exploitation-of-underage-youth, xxxxxxxx/pieces/ed-tech-year-in-review) Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzGates, Microsoft, et al. has come up consistently as people who profiteer off myriad surveillance of underage kids and exposing them to an unprecedented scale of predation -- I was a teenage multiple rape victim of an ephebophile I met in a chat room at age xxxxxxxx and have dedicated much of my work to this issue, and hope to continue in the next decade -- Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzGive me a week or so here to strategize with xxxxxx on the direction that our investigation will take and to gather more background research, this is one of about 5 strategic tech projects I am working on in 2020 and one that is perhaps closest to my heart/experiences, so feel free to send me any public information you think would be helpful and once I"ve had a chance to strategize on this more with xxxx I think it would be helpful to stay Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzin touch. We typically approach our activist projects with a multi-pronged strategic approach that includes legal, media/social media, funding and platforming victims, etc. but are still in the initial stages of getting our background and strategy correct WRT Epstein and collaborators -- Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzwill not let ALL of this die with him, he took a massive system to produce and is just one bad actor here and the whole thing WILL go down Jan 26 14:43
schestowitzThanks for your work documenting this and I'll be reading your articles in much more depth in coming days - feel free to send along anything you think would be helpful or ask any questions of me - Jan 26 14:43
schestowitz========================Jan 26 14:43
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XRevan86Is linuxgirl replacing absolutely every use of the word Twitter with Nitter? :)Jan 26 15:57
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schestowitzmaybeJan 26 16:40
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schestowitzI assumed it was maybe a user-side client for TwitterJan 26 16:40
schestowitzwho knows...Jan 26 16:40
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20010362Jan 26 16:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJan 26 16:42
XRevan86MinceR: 1. it runs away; 2. they track it down and shootJan 26 16:48
XRevan863. very freeJan 26 16:48
MinceRthe horse doesn't know that either :>Jan 26 16:50
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20010234Jan 26 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectJan 26 17:16
schestowitzmakes your life worth living Jan 26 17:18
schestowitzlolJan 26 17:18
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schestowitzwhen the site goes offline many people will commit suicideJan 26 17:51
MinceRhelps with overpopulation and pollutionJan 26 18:04
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schestowitzMinceR: so do big catsJan 26 18:59
MinceRthey're not very effective in this regardJan 26 19:01
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DaemonFC[m]> when the site goes offline many people will commit suicideJan 26 19:14
DaemonFC[m]"The only thing the Japanese love more than killing other people is killing themselves!" (South Park)Jan 26 19:14
DaemonFC[m]> they're not very effective in this regardJan 26 19:16
DaemonFC[m]The most successful big cats are the ones that live in the mountains where people would never go.Jan 26 19:16
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DaemonFC[m]Most pandemics start out in livestock farming because the conditions are so disgusting and cramped. The virus has a huge animal reservoir to spread in.Jan 26 19:20
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DaemonFC[m]They call it "conventional farming" because then nobody gets grossed out by it.Jan 26 19:22
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DaemonFC[m]PETA said they approve of the Impossible Whopper. At one point they were throwing paint on people who went into Burger King.Jan 26 19:28
DaemonFC[m]This is counterproductive.Jan 26 19:28
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liberty_boxhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbir0hbHaw4 - meet eitaJan 26 20:11
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DaemonFC[m]Why do Japanese peopl still pay $30 for CDs?Jan 26 20:16
MinceRthey're richJan 26 20:16
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19122731Jan 26 20:24
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schestowitzMinceR: some are...Jan 26 20:25
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DaemonFC[m]I see the price tags in Yen on some of the CD scans.Jan 26 20:27
DaemonFC[m]I'm like "WTF!".Jan 26 20:27
DaemonFC[m]YOu can barely give CDs away in the US.Jan 26 20:27
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DaemonFC[m]I can go into a thrift shop with $30 and come out with more than 30 CDs.Jan 26 20:28
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MinceRGRANDAD:"When I was a little boy like you, my mum used to give me only a one single dollar. And with that I got two packs of milk, a lot of eggs and two bags of potatoes."Jan 26 20:32
MinceRGRANDSON: "But why you can't do that now?"Jan 26 20:32
MinceRGRANDAD:Because nowadays there are too many of these f***ing cctv's."Jan 26 20:32
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/17/ca5ce8722dd1988b.mp4Jan 26 22:23
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/01/17/9df167c15255a179.jpgJan 26 23:21
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*XRevan86 binged-watched the whole season of The Expanse.Jan 26 23:44
XRevan86It's just amazing.Jan 26 23:44
XRevan86Meanwhile, I can't bring myself to watch one more episode of Doctor Who (E03).Jan 26 23:45
XRevan86> The episode holds an approval rating of 47% on Rotten Tomatoes and an average of 5.8/10 based on 15 reviews.Jan 26 23:45
XRevan86And godflippingdammitJan 26 23:45
XRevan86what happened to Doctor Who?Jan 26 23:46
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Russians want to destroy the American economy with pirated online Intellectual Property theft. Jan 26 23:57
MinceRlolJan 26 23:57
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: How did you know!?Jan 26 23:58
DaemonFC[m]BUSTED!Jan 26 23:58
DaemonFC[m]RuTrackerJan 26 23:59
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: There's also nnmclub.toJan 26 23:59

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