●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, February 26, 2022 ●●
● Feb 26
[00:00]	TR News	One again this mindless "HEY HI!" BS https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/11/buzzwords-from-brussels/
[00:00]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/
[00:00]	TR Bot	 AI trojan horse techniques outpace defenses, study finds The Register
[00:01]	TR News	James Brutons strange bicycle robot self-balances with an omni wheel | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/02/26/james-brutons-strange-bicycle-robot-self-balances-with-an-omni-wheel/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
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[00:01]	TR Bot	 James Bruton's strange bicycle robot self-balances with an omni wheel | Arduino Blog
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[00:02]	TR News	#Microsoft Microsoft Microsoft https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/02/25/cisa-adds-four-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
[00:02]	TR Bot	 CISA Adds Four Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA
[00:02]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
[00:04]	TR News	"Update on what happened across the GNOME project in the week from February 18 to February 25." https://thisweek.gnome.org/posts/2022/02/twig-32/ #gnome #gnu #linux #security
[00:04]	TR Bot	 #32 Security Issues This Week in GNOME
[00:06]	TR News	#SparkyLinux changed repos signing https://sparkylinux.org/sparky-changed-repos-signing/ #poland #gnu #linux #debian
[00:06]	TR Bot	 Sparky changed repos signing SparkyLinux
[00:08]	TR News	"The distro.tube website has been up for a couple of years. It is a static website written in Org mode in Emacs." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xH8rieN7aRI #gnu #linux #emacs #freesw
[00:08]	TR Bot	 20,000 Page Static Website Written In Org Mode - Invidious
[00:10]	TR News	Godot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.4.3 https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-4-3 #godotengine #deletegithub #microsoft #proprietarySoftware
[00:10]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: godotengine.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/maintenance-release-godot-3-4-3
[00:10]	TR Bot	 Godot Engine - Maintenance release: Godot 3.4.3
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[00:11]	TR News	[Algorithm] can detect DNA that unlocks backdoors in lab software - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
[00:11]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
[00:11]	TR Bot	 AI can detect DNA that unlocks backdoors in lab software The Register
[00:12]	TR News	#OpenOffice in 2022?? https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2022/02/how-to-install-openoffice-4111-on.html #LibreOffice better...
[00:12]	TR Bot	 How to install OpenOffice 4.1.11 on a Chromebook
[00:13]	TR News	"Support services for both portfolios will continue for five years afterwards, meaning these will end in 2034 for Unix servers and 2035 for mainframes." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/fujitsu_signposts_the_end_for/
[00:13]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/fujitsu_signposts_the_end_for/
[00:13]	TR Bot	 End of road for mainframes and Unix systems, says Fujitsu The Register
[00:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, The Pixel has something called Google Pay.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	Walmart spent money installing "Samsung Pay blockers" in their credit card terminals.
[00:14]	DaemonFC	They demand you use a special app called Walmart Pay to pay with your phone.
[00:14]	TR News	#IBM CEO #ArvindKrishna is a malicious "dinobaby" https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ibm_motion_age_discrimination/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Ageism
[00:14]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ibm_motion_age_discrimination/
[00:14]	TR Bot	 IBM fails to dismiss age-discrimination case linked to CEO The Register
[00:14]	TR Bot	 IBM - Techrights
[00:15]	TR News	#ibm under #Kyndryl as #microsoft outsourcer with #clowncomputing varnish https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/kyndryl_aws/
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[00:15]	TR Bot	 Kyndryl signs partnership deal with AWS The Register
[00:16]	schestowitz-TR	is there something called "Gert Paid"?
[00:18]	TR News	"This is quick guide / tour howto install openSUSE Leap 15.4 (currently Alpha) on real PC." https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/opensuse-leap-15-4-installation-guide-usb-media-creation-multiboot-gnome-41-quick-tour/ #gnu #linux #opensuse
[00:18]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: if-not-true-then-false.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2022/opensuse-leap-15-4-installation-guide-usb-media-creation-multiboot-gnome-41-quick-tour/
[00:18]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Leap 15.4 Installation Guide [USB Media Creation, Multiboot, Gnome 41 Quick Tour] If Not True Then False
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Hi Ryan,
[00:18]	DaemonFC	Your package is arriving tomorrow.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	From T-MOBILE SPRINT
[00:18]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, That must be like the BrundleFly.
[00:18]	DaemonFC	From The Fly.
[00:18]	schestowitz-TR	does mandy know?
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR	about your package arriving?
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR	here we say "parcel"
[00:19]	DaemonFC	My package is too large, sadly.
[00:19]	schestowitz-TR	poor baby
[00:21]	TR News	Surgically Implanted #Bluetooth Devices Dont Help Would-Be Exam Cheats | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2022/02/25/surgically-implanted-bluetooth-devices-dont-help-would-be-exam-cheats/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
[00:21]	TR Bot	Implanted Bluetooth Devices Dont Help Would-Be Exam Cheats | Hackaday
[00:21]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[00:23]	TR News	The #LibrePlanet 2022: Living Liberation schedule is here for 19 & 20 March https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/the-libreplanet-2022-living-liberation-schedule-is-here-for-19-20-march #FSF #GNU #FreeSW #SoftwareFreedom
[00:23]	TR Bot	 The LibrePlanet 2022: Living Liberation schedule is here for 19 & 20 March Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[00:23]	DaemonFC	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Falcon
[00:23]	TR Bot	 Jonah Falcon - Wikipedia
[00:23]	DaemonFC	13.5"? I've seen bigger.
[00:23]	DaemonFC	I don't know how this qualifies you for a wikipedia article though.
[00:25]	schestowitz-TR	wikipedia is spam
[00:25]	schestowitz-TR	people write about themselves
[00:25]	schestowitz-TR	or pay people to do it
[00:26]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, back on topic
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	so tmobile sends you some package
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	boo hoo
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	regarding sizes
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	like height records
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	it's usually people with genetic problems who break record
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	and it does not look pretty 
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	because, you know, genetic physical problems
[00:27]	schestowitz-TR	swollen joints and stuff
[00:28]	schestowitz-TR	like "world's  largest head"
[00:28]	schestowitz-TR	you probably don't want to even see that
[00:30]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-21-22-20.jpg
[00:30]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/funny-pictures-2-21-22-20.jpg
[00:30]	TR News	Attacking the #freesw community using unwanted cybernocracy https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/leveraging-the-open-source-program-office-new-research-unpacks-the-evolution-of-the-ospo-and-a-whole-lot-more/ oh, look, #microsoft Perlow http://techrights.org/2022/02/16/only-the-privileged/
[00:30]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxfoundation.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/leveraging-the-open-source-program-office-new-research-unpacks-the-evolution-of-the-ospo-and-a-whole-lot-more/
[00:30]	TR Bot	 Leveraging the Open Source Program Office: New Research Unpacks the Evolution of the OSPO (and a Whole Lot More) - Linux Foundation
[00:30]	TR Bot	 When Only Rich and Powerful Corporations Can Use Slurs and Hurt Marginalised/Vulnerable People | Techrights
[00:31]	TR News	Purism and Linux 5.17 https://puri.sm/posts/purism-and-linux-5-17/ #purism #linux #kernel
[00:31]	TR Bot	 Purism and Linux 5.17 Purism
[00:31]	TR News	#Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161864 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:31]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:32]	TR News	Developing GUIs for IoT is easier with Ubuntu Frame on-screen keyboard | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/developing-guis-for-iot-is-easier-with-ubuntu-frame-on-screen-keyboard #ubuntu #gnu #linux #osk
[00:32]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/developing-guis-for-iot-is-easier-with-ubuntu-frame-on-screen-keyboard
[00:32]	TR Bot	GUIs for IoT is easier with Ubuntu Frame on-screen keyboard | Ubuntu
[00:34]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> it's usually people with genetic problems who break record
[00:34]	DaemonFC	There's an optimal size and then beyond that it's just a liability.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	Like, I knew this guy who couldn't wear shorts because of it.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	People think that people with lots of money are happy. They're usually not.
[00:35]	DaemonFC	I think it's the same thing here.
[00:36]	schestowitz-TR	that's why they colect money
[00:36]	schestowitz-TR	to compensate for something missing
[00:37]	schestowitz	MinceR: https://www.maketecheasier.com/fixes-external-display-not-working-macos/
[00:37]	TR Bot	 External Display Not Working? Try These 15 Fixes for macOS - Make Tech Easier
[00:37]	schestowitz	upgrade
[00:37]	schestowitz	throw it away
[00:37]	schestowitz	get a new one
[00:37]	schestowitz	get 6 sets of airpods
[00:38]	MinceR	lol
[00:38]	MinceR	better solution:
[00:38]	MinceR	https://assets.amuniversal.com/6b08abb09fbb012f2fe600163e41dd5b   ( https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-06-24 )
[00:38]	schestowitz-TR	airpods can become expensive buttplugs with the coveted #apple logo
[00:38]	TR Bot	Comic Strip on 1995-06-24 | Dilbert by Scott Adams
[00:38]	DaemonFC	As 2,000 Americans a day keep dying of COVID, CDC says you can "take a break" from masks.
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	yes, I was in town today
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	very few people wear masks
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	maybe 10% of us
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	even inside shops, except the staff
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	I cover my whole head exept ete
[00:39]	schestowitz-TR	mister incognito
[00:40]	schestowitz-TR	*except eyes
[00:41]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding: #Ubuntu Frame/OSK, Librem, and #Arduino Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161865 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:41]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: Ubuntu Frame/OSK, Librem, and Arduino | Tux Machines
[00:42]	TR News	#PressureWasher History: High-Speed #Hydraulics Forged from Prohibition https://tedium.co/2022/02/25/pressure-washer-history/ #tedium
[00:42]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: tedium.co | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/02/25/pressure-washer-history/
[00:42]	TR Bot	 Pressure Washer History: High-Speed Hydraulics Forged from Prohibition
[00:43]	DaemonFC	Richard Stallman has repeatedly appeared on Russia Today.
[00:43]	TR News	#apple cultists: Macs... they JUST WORK. NO THEY DON'T! (And stop blaming the user) https://www.maketecheasier.com/fixes-external-display-not-working-macos/
[00:43]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: We know.
[00:43]	schestowitz-TR	DaemonFC: yes, it won't help now
[00:44]	schestowitz-TR	it'll give his critics fodder
[00:44]	schestowitz-TR	he even appeared there 2020
[00:44]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Please don't use that as an argument for RT legitimacy.
[00:45]	TR News	"One month into Season of KDE, and almost every high priority and medium priority packages have been submitted. Most have been accepted to Flathub, while some are awaiting review. I'll list down the submissions accepted after my last post." https://snehit.dev/posts/kde/sok-2022/completing-a-milestone/
[00:45]	TR Bot	 Status update: Completing a milestone - post #3
[00:46]	MinceR	It Just Needs More Work.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	<XRevan86> DaemonFC: Please don't use that as an argument for RT legitimacy.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	Oh I wasn't.
[00:47]	TR News	Shrinking from WHAT? 10MB to 5? Make it 5KB like in #geminiProtocol https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/google_chrome_lite_mode_deprecated/
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[00:47]	TR Bot	 Google kills download-shrinking Lite Mode browser tech The Register
[00:47]	DaemonFC	Stallman is a political crank.
[00:47]	DaemonFC	And he promotes authoritarianism.
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	vaccine mandates never flew here
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	bill's guardian shilled for iot
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	now there are many people with side effects
[00:48]	DaemonFC	He has a series of unorthodox ideas which would cause the global economy to go ahead and pretty much collapse and take most people back to dirt floor poverty if they were actually implemented.
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	and "passports" that aren't used
[00:48]	XRevan86	In my perspective, RMS probably considered it as just yet another imperfect platform to spread the message of free software.
[00:48]	DaemonFC	It would be worse than what's going on now.
[00:48]	schestowitz-TR	like pre-2010 UK "id cards"
[00:49]	schestowitz-TR	a friend's partner got one
[00:49]	schestowitz-TR	totally useless
[00:49]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> totally useless
[00:49]	DaemonFC	Chicago has "city ID" cards for illegal immigrants.
[00:49]	DaemonFC	They are pretty much useless.
[00:49]	XRevan86	I hope he at least now realises what RT really is about.
[00:50]	DaemonFC	You can't actually use them to rent an apartment or anything involving the state or federal government.
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	many freesw activists and 'free thinkers' went on there
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	even some british whistleblowers
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	like assange friends, annie machon etc.
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	and then they linked to it
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	showing off that putin's media had them on
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	that may seem innocent at the time
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	but those things do not age well politically
[00:50]	DaemonFC	Vaccine mandates have pretty much petered out in the United States.
[00:50]	schestowitz-TR	like shaking hitler's hand in the early/mid 30s
[00:50]	DaemonFC	The Supreme Court threw out most of Biden's.
[00:51]	schestowitz-TR	Gulag threw that out this month
[00:51]	schestowitz-TR	tried to mandate staff
[00:51]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Now the FDA has to warn people not to drink the COVID test kit solution.
[00:51]	DaemonFC	:)
[00:51]	schestowitz-TR	and now changed its mind... now as in I saw a report last week
[00:51]	schestowitz-TR	we got our first covid test kit today
[00:51]	schestowitz-TR	ever
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	woin't use it
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	it's for a case when one of us feels unwell
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	the gov. gave it to us free
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	so  picked one up hours ago
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	free handout
[00:52]	DaemonFC	I got a bunch of them for free.
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	some companies make money from this..
[00:52]	schestowitz-TR	but it's prepaid
[00:53]	schestowitz-TR	I pay for it even if I don't agree to that
[00:53]	DaemonFC	They made us go two years without test kits and with those scammers running test centers.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	To steal social security numbers.
[00:53]	DaemonFC	Then they mail these out.
[00:53]	schestowitz-TR	what does guardian say?
[00:53]	schestowitz-TR	mandate those too?
[00:54]	schestowitz-TR	eventually they force people to come back to "the office"
[00:54]	schestowitz-TR	so the planet suffers still
[00:54]	DaemonFC	Stallman is basically in agreement with about 0.25% of the country, politically.
[00:54]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Right, history is not very forgiving.
[00:54]	schestowitz-TR	and they don't let people stay safe at home
[00:54]	DaemonFC	And that party is a Russian sockpuppet designed to get Republicans elected.
[00:54]	schestowitz-TR	managers or "bosses" long to bully someone
[00:54]	schestowitz-TR	face to face
[00:54]	DaemonFC	And he doesn't get it.
[00:54]	MinceR	(video) https://nitter.net/56blackcat/status/1497206708439072768   https://twitter.com/56blackcat/status/1497206708439072768
[00:54]	TR Bot	 Ann is still European Stand with Ukraine (@56blackcat): "Graphic A Russian tank swerves & runs over civilian car. Peacekeepers my ass. This is sheer cruelty." | nitter
[00:54]	TR Bot	Graphic A Russian tank swerves & runs over civilian car. Peacekeepers my ass. This is sheer cruelty. https://t.co/JMMgTobm9X
[00:54]	TR Bot	Za sve one koji ne ele da vide ta Putin radi u Ukrajini. Ruski narod ne stoji iza ovoga. Ovo je Putinov lini r https://t.co/FQXrBtGUUV
[00:55]	schestowitz-TR	would rather not click
[00:55]	schestowitz-TR	if they squash a person
[00:55]	schestowitz-TR	I saw a movie like this about Russian tanks
[00:55]	XRevan86	schestowitz: No, he lived.
[00:55]	schestowitz-TR	and I remember the scene 20+ years later
[00:56]	schestowitz-TR	now we need to see klitschko going rambo on those troops. One punch on each
[00:58]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Putin should send deputy Valuyev to fight him one on one.
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[00:59]	schestowitz-TR	I'd watch
[00:59]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: they can do it like in those Van Damme movies
[00:59]	schestowitz-TR	with glass
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[01:00]	schestowitz-TR	to see Valuyev "glassed"
[01:00]	schestowitz-TR	in another way
[01:00]	MinceR	who's valuyev?
[01:00]	XRevan86	MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Valuev
[01:00]	TR Bot	 Nikolai Valuev - Wikipedia
[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	Yes
[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	very ugly man
[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	and has some genetic disorder
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[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	I saw him fight
[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	he too was a mayor iirc
[01:01]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Also friend of my extended family.
[01:01]	MinceR	glassing is too good for members of united russia and russian soldiers
[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	now .ph ants to consider a boxer as a president
[01:01]	MinceR	they should die more slowly than that
[01:01]	schestowitz-TR	people like to vote people who punch... into office
[01:01]	XRevan86	Which is a detail that boggles even myself.
[01:02]	schestowitz-TR	Valuev was never that good
[01:02]	schestowitz-TR	even much shorter people knocked him out
[01:04]	activelow	that's confusing me, many of those boxing champions were contracted by germany
[01:04]	activelow	including Valuev, Klitschko, Lebedev, and many others
[01:05]	activelow	and their fights regularly broadcasted, for decades
[01:05]	activelow	and now the fairy tale is told Ukraine and Russia were at war
[01:06]	activelow	schestowitz-TR: and you'r disrespectful, towards Valuev, who was a recognised Champion, internationally
[01:06]	MinceR	lol
[01:06]	MinceR	no member of united russia deserve respect
[01:06]	MinceR	s/ve/ves/
[01:06]	MinceR	the only thing they deserve is punishment
[01:07]	XRevan86	Except for no, no exceptions.
[01:07]	TR News	#AlmaLinux OS 8.5 for #PowerPC is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161843#comment-32910
[01:07]	TR Bot	 CentOS Alternative AlmaLinux OS Is Now Available for 64-Bit PowerPC Architecture | Tux Machines
[01:09]	TR News	"Then on Friday the Conti cyber-criminal gang, which is based in Russia, warned it too was stepping into the fray." #microsoft #windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/in_brief_security/ see http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
[01:09]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/in_brief_security/
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Nvidia probes cyberattack on internal systems The Register
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
[01:12]	schestowitz-TR	activelow: He was never very good
[01:12]	schestowitz-TR	you can compare
[01:12]	schestowitz-TR	he was no legend
[01:13]	schestowitz-TR	Tyson Fury never lost
[01:13]	schestowitz-TR	yyet
[01:13]	schestowitz-TR	yet
[01:14]	activelow	i don't follow any of those fights anymore
[01:15]	activelow	never watched the Klitschko fights, because those were broadcasted on private TV which i hate
[01:15]	activelow	on public TV instead, fights were broadcasted, without commercials
[01:17]	schestowitz	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAe-dr_ry3c
[01:17]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vAe-dr_ry3c
[01:17]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Fury vs Wilder 3 HIGHLIGHTS: October 9, 2021 - Invidious
[01:17]	schestowitz	their latest
[01:17]	schestowitz	31st win
[01:21]	schestowitz	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury#Professional_boxing_record
[01:21]	TR Bot	 Tyson Fury - Wikipedia
[01:21]	schestowitz-TR	he's from here
[01:21]	schestowitz-TR	born prematurely
[01:21]	schestowitz-TR	one pound
[01:22]	schestowitz-TR	made up for it along the way
[01:37]	TR News	#Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161866 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:37]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:37]	TR News	#Privacy and #Security Failures Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161867 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:37]	TR Bot	 Privacy and Security Failures | Tux Machines
[01:38]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161868 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:38]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[01:38]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161869 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[01:38]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:45]	schestowitz-TR	I've just gone to gulagtube
[01:45]	schestowitz-TR	searched kiev, bridge
[01:45]	schestowitz-TR	pure noise
[01:45]	schestowitz-TR	and includes propagnda organs of govs.
[01:45]	schestowitz-TR	including putin's
[01:46]	schestowitz-TR	what good is the internet?
[01:46]	schestowitz-TR	social control media other than gulagtube is even less reliable
[01:46]	schestowitz-TR	they call it "fog of war"
[01:47]	TR News	#wikileaks has been offline for a very long time. This is unusual. https://wikileaks.org
[01:47]	TR Bot	 WikiLeaks
[01:50]	schestowitz	XRevan86: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#/media/File:%D0%9C%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%BB_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%8E%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE_%D0%A1%D0%BE%D1%8E%D0%B7%D0%B0_%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%91%D0%BD_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87_%D0%A2%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%
[01:50]	TR Bot	 Ukraine - Wikipedia
[01:50]	schestowitz	D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE.jpg
[01:50]	MinceR	the problem is with humans, not technology
[01:50]	MinceR	and it's solving itself already
[01:50]	schestowitz	https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/________.jpg/180px-________.jpg
[01:50]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/________.jpg/180px-________.jpg
[01:50]	MinceR	no humans => no human propaganda
[01:50]	schestowitz	valuyev similarities
[01:51]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 30.95 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.45
[01:53]	TR News	Links 26/2/2022: #AlmaLinux OS 8.5 for PowerPC and IBMs CEO Arvind Krishna in Trouble Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/25/arvind-krishna-in-trouble/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/25/arvind-krishna-in-trouble/
[01:53]	TR Bot	 Links 26/2/2022: AlmaLinux OS 8.5 for PowerPC and IBMs CEO Arvind Krishna in Trouble | Techrights
[01:54]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: that leaves subhumans like Vlad to spread propaganda
[01:55]	MinceR	vladolf will die too
[01:58]	AdmFubar	wikileaks certificate expired
[01:59]	schestowitz-TR	I cannot even reach it
[01:59]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: before us
[01:59]	schestowitz-TR	he's hiding his age
[01:59]	MinceR	hopefully
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[02:00]	MinceR	well, at least hopefully he'll start dying before we do
[02:01]	schestowitz-TR	he's 70 this year
[02:01]	schestowitz-TR	LateLifeCrisis
[02:01]	schestowitz-TR	he wants to diue with gloiry
[02:01]	schestowitz-TR	because he'll die soon anyway
[02:01]	MinceR	sociopath edition
[02:02]	schestowitz	AdmFubar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks
[02:02]	TR Bot	 WikiLeaks - Wikipedia
[02:02]	schestowitz	all the aliases fail also
[02:02]	schestowitz	https://wikileaks.is
[02:02]	TR Bot	not resolve host: wikileaks.is; Unknown error ( status 0 @ https://wikileaks.is )
[02:02]	schestowitz	https://wikileaks.com
[02:02]		-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-WikiLeaks
[02:02]	schestowitz	https://wikileaks.org
[02:02]	TR Bot	 WikiLeaks
[02:02]	schestowitz	hmmm..
[02:02]	AdmFubar	https://www.pogowasright.org/va-public-school-to-use-precrime-thought-police-program-to-deter-off-campus-social-media-hate-speech-by-students-415-23-3/
[02:02]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pogowasright.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pogowasright.org/va-public-school-to-use-precrime-thought-police-program-to-deter-off-campus-social-media-hate-speech-by-students-415-23-3/
[02:02]	TR Bot	 Va. Public School to Use Precrime Thought-Police Program to Deter Off-Campus, Social Media Hate Speech by Students 415 23 3
[02:03]	schestowitz	maybe it works OK from the US
[02:03]	AdmFubar	they all use the same certificate
[02:03]	schestowitz-TR	.com works now
[02:03]	schestowitz-TR	.org does not
[02:04]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: technically he's  69
[02:04]	schestowitz-TR	so he has pussy for brains
[02:04]	MinceR	lol
[02:05]	schestowitz-TR	and mother russia has mothing
[02:05]	schestowitz-TR	"no match found"
[02:05]	schestowitz-TR	oh wait
[02:05]	schestowitz-TR	"matchstick found
[02:06]	TR News	xkcd: Greek Letters https://xkcd.com/2586/ #xkcd
[02:06]	TR Bot	Greek Letters
[02:06]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2586/
[02:06]	MinceR	turns out randall munroe signed the anti-rms letter too
[02:06]	MinceR	one can hardly trust anyone in this shithole world
[02:07]	schestowitz-TR	does munroe do code?
[02:07]	MinceR	dunno
[02:07]	MinceR	he was stupid enough to blame Adobe Trash sucking on the kernel
[02:07]	MinceR	even though mplayer, xine and vlc all did well on the same kernel
[02:07]	MinceR	https://xkcd.com/619/
[02:07]	TR Bot	Supported Features
[02:07]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/619/
[02:08]	TR News	Gammath SPOT version 2.1 (beta) released on 25 February 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Gammath_SPOT
[02:09]	TR Bot	 Gammath SPOT - Free Software Directory
[02:09]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: I wanted to do some videos, but lacked the time
[02:09]	schestowitz-TR	one thing I saw thu and fri is,
[02:09]	schestowitz-TR	they try to associate Linux with attacks on ukraine
[02:09]	MinceR	classy
[02:09]	schestowitz-TR	though Windows is what's failing
[02:09]	schestowitz-TR	and they redefine back doors
[02:09]	schestowitz-TR	to them, malware installed on Linux
[02:10]	schestowitz-TR	and then opening a pathway
[02:10]	schestowitz-TR	is "back door"
[02:10]	schestowitz-TR	not something that's there by design like Windows
[02:10]	MinceR	but what the hell, we need either a BSD or a new Linux fork anyway
[02:10]	schestowitz-TR	I saw some other malicious slants
[02:10]	MinceR	let them shit in the bed they made for themselves
[02:10]	schestowitz-TR	but went to town today and did repair around the house, recorded nothing today :/
[02:10]	schestowitz-TR	yes, Linux has its limits
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	you cannot even run modern Linux on a machine with floppy drive
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	because, you know..
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	"old"
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	Azure OK
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	you NEED that
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	but not support for laptop from 20 yearsx ago
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	which still had floppies supported
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	that would be "security" risk
[02:11]	schestowitz-TR	unlike AZUREa
[02:11]	MinceR	Linux has reached its limit
[02:12]	schestowitz-TR	anyway, Linux is one of those things that groiw too big
[02:12]	schestowitz-TR	like pho-nuke
[02:12]	activelow	floppy disk is helpful to vizualize, 15 years ago a linux kernel and packet filter fit onto one
[02:12]	schestowitz-TR	after it added all the kitchen's sinks
[02:12]	schestowitz-TR	like php-bb
[02:12]	schestowitz-TR	with all the zero-day flaws
[02:12]	schestowitz-TR	and could no longer maintain the monster
[02:12]	MinceR	well, what i know is that 15 years ago i could configure a Linux kernel and build it in a few minutes
[02:12]	MinceR	now it would take days to configure it and hours to build it
[02:13]	MinceR	and it's chock full of crap
[02:13]	schestowitz-TR	yes, 20 file systems?
[02:13]	schestowitz-TR	like Mirrosoft ones?
[02:13]	MinceR	it has cgroups, which doesn't work, hype-v drivers, which should be used as a demonstration of how not to write kernel code
[02:13]	schestowitz-TR	and some which barely work
[02:13]	schestowitz-TR	and can vanish files..
[02:13]	activelow	problem is, even when most of the optional parts are removed, then kernel image size and LoC increased excessively
[02:13]	MinceR	hooks for NSA backdoors like SELinux and systemd
[02:13]	MinceR	a whole SMB server, which doesn't belong in the kernel
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR	wireguard
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR	vpn?
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR	TO   DA KERNEL
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR	KVM?
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR	KERNEL!
[02:14]	schestowitz-TR	The K in KVM
[02:14]	activelow	the ARM kernel here, which I minified (without breaking to boot ARM), it is still 12MiB in size; 15 years ago it was almost 10MiB les
[02:14]	activelow	s
[02:15]	schestowitz	http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/linux-bloat-meme/
[02:15]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Linux is Becoming a Code Burial Ground, Sometimes at the Expense of Size and Complexity (Bloat) | Techrights
[02:15]	schestowitz-TR	27,000 lines of code patch
[02:15]	activelow	removed IPv6, LVM, PCI support, almost everything possible, still it is 12MiB statically linked, and this is very bad news
[02:15]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Samsung was criticized by Google for making "stupid" patches to the Linux kernel they use in their phones.
[02:15]	schestowitz-TR	eat DAT, Linux
[02:15]	schestowitz-TR	or Linus
[02:15]	schestowitz-TR	how long to even study the darn thing?
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR	to audit it
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR	they can put ANYTHING in there
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR	back doors too
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR	you would not even notice
[02:16]	schestowitz-TR	UMN put tons of defects before it was noticed
[02:16]	activelow	the system call interface chaos is nasty too, there's simply too many of them, syscalls, stopped counting at 300
[02:17]	schestowitz	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/150248?page=1#comment-29751
[02:17]	TR Bot	 Heres Why University of Minnesota is Likely to be Banned from Contributing to Linux Kernel Code | Tux Machines
[02:20]	activelow	and, they are lying: https://lwn.net/Articles/885941/
[02:20]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/885941/ )
[02:20]	TR News	Now good that the official homepage of #geminiProtocol -- both http/s and gemini:// -- has been down for about a day already, maybe more. gemini.circumlunar.space/
[02:21]	activelow	linux kernel requires a C++ compiler (gcc-4.9) since v4.19 already, yet LWN says kernel v5.18 would upgrade the C standards compliance from C89
[02:21]	activelow	linux kernel couldn't be compiled with a C89 compiler anymore for a very long time
[02:22]	schestowitz-TR	oh,
[02:22]	schestowitz-TR	zdnet said the same, I think
[02:22]	schestowitz-TR	SJVN
[02:22]	schestowitz-TR	the coin-operated due
[02:22]	schestowitz-TR	dude
[02:22]	schestowitz	https://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-prepares-to-move-the-linux-kernel-to-modern-c/
[02:22]	TR Bot	Torvalds prepares to move the Linux kernel to modern C | ZDNet
[02:23]	activelow	"modern C"
[02:23]	activelow	the latest harm done was with Kernel v5.8; when C11 _generic macro nonsense was introduced
[02:23]	schestowitz-TR	"modern" is like "smart"
[02:23]	schestowitz-TR	fancy words
[02:24]	schestowitz-TR	which suggest something newer is better
[02:24]	schestowitz-TR	even when the objectives are user-hostile and often rejected by the users themselves
[02:24]	schestowitz-TR	so they're forced to swallow
[02:24]	activelow	the last kernel version i am willing to patch is v5.10, i'll not follow along anymore with their decisions
[02:24]	schestowitz-TR	with appeasing words
[02:24]	schestowitz-TR	"smart phone"
[02:25]	schestowitz-TR	sounds better than "microphone on, killswitched, remotely-operated listening devices that can make calls, too"
[02:25]	schestowitz	zdnet hired some stenographer called Jonathan Greig  
[02:25]	schestowitz	he's reprinting corporate lies
[02:26]	schestowitz	claims as "facts"
[02:26]	schestowitz	this is not journalism 
[02:26]	schestowitz	it's "professional writer"
[02:26]	schestowitz	with assignments and sponsors
[02:26]	schestowitz	anyway, coin-operated sjvn now has some competition
[02:30]	TR News	#intel burns the planet to sell crap https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/intel_bitcoin_chip/ it also attacks #linux and #freesw based on leaks http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[02:30]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/26/intel_bitcoin_chip/
[02:30]	TR Bot	 Intel blasts Bitcoin miners, unveils own mining hardware The Register
[02:30]	TR Bot	 Intel leaks - Techrights
[02:30]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/roku-porn-ban-firetv-chromecast
[02:30]	TR Bot	adult channels ban: Chromecast, Fire TV could benefit - Protocol
[02:31]	AdmFubar	:)) I like the intel hypocrisy !
[02:31]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/nvidia-cyberattack
[02:31]	TR Bot	Nvidia's internal systems hit by cyberattack - Protocol
[02:33]	TR News	Weaponisation of tech #monopolies and #centralisation https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/ukraine-russia-apple
[02:33]	TR Bot	Russia from the App Store: Ukraine official - Protocol
[02:33]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook
[02:33]	TR Bot	invades Ukraine, restricts Facebook - Protocol
[02:34]	TR News	Remember: US tech #monopolies works FOR #russia and FOR #putin (it's about money) https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html
[02:34]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/world/europe/12raids.html
[02:34]	TR Bot	 Russia Uses Microsoft to Suppress Dissent - The New York Times
[02:35]	TR News	The president of #apple isn't Tim Crook. It's Vladolf the Crook. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/world/europe/russia-navalny-app-election.html #gulag #russia
[02:35]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/17/world/europe/russia-navalny-app-election.html
[02:35]	TR Bot	 Apple and Google Remove Navalny Voting App in Russia - The New York Times
[02:35]	TR News	#ibm took orders from #hitler http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/
[02:35]	TR Bot	 Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights
[02:36]	MinceR	strange time for crApple and gulag to side with putler
[02:36]	MinceR	but i'm sure it won't harm their sales
[02:36]	AdmFubar	https://www.protocol.com/climate/russia-chernobyl-ukraine-invasion
[02:36]	TR Bot	takes Chernobyl, raising fears of environmental disaster - Protocol
[02:36]	TR News	#putin has a #disinformation machine to compete with for his own disinformation https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook
[02:37]	TR News	#socialcontrolmedia isn't for activism but to distract from actual activism
[02:37]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250222.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250222.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250222.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250222.txt
[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, February 25, 2022
[02:37]	schestowitz	[02:36] <MinceR> but i'm sure it won't harm their sales
[02:37]	schestowitz	that's what matters, SALES
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[02:40]	TR News	"There were generic SGML rendering engines back in the middle 1990s." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-250222.html#tFeb%2025%2013:43:36
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[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-02-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-02-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:42]	TR News	Don't forget, lads and gals, that the tech giants have long been dictators' best buddies http://techrights.org/2022/01/19/watson-pr/
[02:42]	TR Bot	 Another Video IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | Techrights
[02:43]	TR News	#ibm profits from #fascism (and it never ended). They double dip by selling to both sides in conflicts. http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/the-real-ibm-history/
[02:43]	TR Bot	 What IBM Does Not Want You to Watch | Techrights
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[03:17]	ahoy	MinceR: could be midlife crisis, could be spite, could be religious, could be some other sort of craziness <- it wasnt that, it actually started with an argument about msg
[03:17]	MinceR	lol
[03:18]	MinceR	i thought we were talking about putler
[03:18]	MinceR	as in, why putler attacked ukraine this time
[03:18]	ahoy	precisely so
[03:18]	ahoy	if it wasnt an argument in irc, what could possibly drive him to such a thing?
[03:18]	MinceR	lol
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[03:19]	ahoy	by the way, what did happen with your failed openbsd installation? condolances, by the way. it may sound like trolling, but the curiosity is is sincere
[03:19]	ahoy	im not into blaming the user for major issues like that. it was probably a bug
[03:19]	MinceR	well, i'm still using it, and i'm not quite sure what the cause of the issue was
[03:19]	MinceR	i'll just have to try some other things on the same hardware so i can compare them
[03:19]	ahoy	so you were able to recover the data from the partition? or you just reinstalled
[03:20]	MinceR	i actually answered you but you were gone by then, so i'll have to dig up my messages because i forgot
[03:20]	ahoy	im sorry about that, i was hoping youd answer in chat
[03:20]	ahoy	then i would have seen it
[03:20]	MinceR	np
[03:20]	MinceR	i've found the lines, i'll just reformat the thing so it's less spammy here
[03:20]	ahoy	you can also pm
[03:21]	IPFS	 Gemini requests since start of month:   383749 total Total number of pages in capsule: 39458      Active: active (running) since Mon 2022-02-07 16:50:38 GMT; 2 weeks 4 days ago
[03:21]	ahoy	whatevers easier is fine
[03:22]	IPFS	 IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated.  TotalIn: 62 GB    TotalOut: 44 GB
[03:22]	ahoy	/ignore techrights-ipfs-bot
[03:22]	MinceR	i use 6.9, with x.org/xenocara, and i have no idea what happened other than i was loading a really heavy website in qutebrowser, then x stopped responding except for the mouse pointer still moving
[03:22]	MinceR	then x crashed, i got that console message and the system stopped responding entirely. i'm on 64bit. the system worked fine after force poweroff and booting again
[03:22]	MinceR	but still, it's sad that this is the state of the IT industry, after seeing all the hype about various systems being "rock solid"
[03:22]	MinceR	later i had a total freeze of the system, while trying to use a really heavy website in chromium.
[03:23]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:23]	MinceR	this laptop is also supposed to be more powerful than the old one and yet i'm seeing performance issues with web, so i'm curious about how that will turn out with other BSDs and GNU/Linux
[03:24]	MinceR	it could still be mostly power management issues
[03:24]	ahoy	i mean we both know openbsd is slower because security security security security
[03:24]	ahoy	or even more accurately mitigation mitigation mitigation mitigation
[03:24]	MinceR	yeah, but that much?
[03:24]	ahoy	as a fan, it wouldnt surprise me. the web is crap too
[03:25]	ahoy	crap + a mountain of mitigations = slow + slower
[03:25]	MinceR	when i download a large image in a web browser and have it show, it's noticeably very slow and loads the system very heavily
[03:25]	MinceR	just a large jpeg
[03:25]	ahoy	its like when you mix caffeine and alcohol. whoops, maybe that whole category of metaphors is a bad idea
[03:25]	MinceR	i suppose it would be easier if i ran other heavy applications on this thing besides the web
[03:25]	MinceR	but everything else i use on this machine is pretty light
[03:25]	ahoy	but they do combine unpredictably, says webmd which is the fountain of all medican knowledge
[03:26]	MinceR	playing full hd movies worked fine
[03:26]	ahoy	yeah same here-- i mean what could i install to compete for resources with the web browser? total-information-awareness?
[03:27]	ahoy	(which is probably on github now)
[03:27]	ahoy	hopefully they at least use a private repo
[03:27]	ahoy	i think if you want a real explanation though, activelow has some ideas that might provide clues
[03:28]	ahoy	like gutting things that dont require hw acceleration-- then making it so proprietary software is needed to make the acceleration work
[03:28]	ahoy	thats a great way to attack free software
[03:28]	ahoy	and the desktop isnt a priority for openbsd, which is exactly why im attracted to it
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[03:30]	MinceR	well, i suppose if i make my FPGA dev board-based laptop, i won't have a lot of hw acceleration anyway
[03:30]	ahoy	i use the gui of course (and yes, it was installed by default) but whats important is that the kernel and userspace arent unmaintainable
[03:30]	MinceR	the "modern" web probably won't work on it at all
[03:30]	ahoy	sounds like a feature
[03:30]	ahoy	when i use the web i often avoid both css and images, not to mention scripts
[03:30]	MinceR	well, OpenBSD certainly has an attraction on the desktop for me: running X as nonroot without any of the proprietarydesktop crap that's normally used for this purpose
[03:31]	ahoy	/me checks if x is actually running as non-root
[03:31]	MinceR	runs as _x11 here
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[03:32]	ahoy	yeah here too
[03:32]	ahoy	fun
[03:33]	ahoy	so heres the latest on the fsf: 
[03:33]	ahoy	theyve cancelled the entire organisation and replaced it with reruns of "yes, minister"
[03:33]	ahoy	theyve done to the board what osi just did less than a year ago
[03:33]	MinceR	lol
[03:33]	ahoy	and no one has noticed (or at least mentioned it)
[03:34]	ahoy	if you look at the new "code of ethics" for the board-- which is the only authority rms has now 
[03:34]	ahoy	the board has no power, its only got SPIRIT! LETS GO! S-P-I-R-I-T! SPIRIT!
[03:34]	ahoy	so they really have found a nice niche for him. im against this of course, but i wont sugarcoat it
[03:35]	MinceR	well, they got all the support from the community, afaict
[03:35]	MinceR	if they insist on being irrelevant and useless, it's on them
[03:35]	ahoy	and the community answers to lieplanet
[03:35]	ahoy	agreed
[03:35]	ahoy	but this is bad for gnu at least
[03:35]	ahoy	and unfair to rms, not that we can stop them
[03:35]	MinceR	they decided to use an irc network in part run by people who wanted to cancel them for a large part of their official public communications anyway
[03:35]	MinceR	they can't be helped
[03:36]	ahoy	mainly i think its useful to document what theyre doing 
[03:36]	ahoy	yeah well the irc network they chose is really an example of a very broad theme of more of the same
[03:36]	ahoy	lieplanet has a loyalty oath. gnu.fools has a loyalty oath. actual gnu still doesnt, but guix runs that too
[03:37]	ahoy	im eager to see what lea.h (no need to summon) has planned. im not saying it will bowl me over, though it wouldnt have to try hard to be better than what lieplanet is up to
[03:38]	ahoy	im guessing theyre going to announce the new leader this month (if there is ever going to be one)
[03:38]	MinceR	i faintly remember talks of a federation that would be more difficult to attack than the FSF was
[03:38]	ahoy	theres really not much for knauth to do-- or anyone else in his position now
[03:39]	ahoy	i faintly remember talks of a federation that would be more difficult to attack than the FSF was <- oh i remember that very clearly
[03:39]	ahoy	maybe leah will help build that
[03:39]	ahoy	the nice thing about a federation is that anybody can get it started
[03:39]	ahoy	of course when i talk about federation im thinking p2p authority, not centralised like starfleet. so maybe its not even the right word
[03:39]	ahoy	im not bothered
[03:40]	ahoy	voluntarily linked mini-organisations that collaborate as it suits them
[03:40]	ahoy	meritocracy (maybe not the best word these days, only because no one likes it- im not offended by it) moved from individual level up to org level
[03:41]	MinceR	:>
[03:41]	MinceR	i may be misremembering the terminology
[03:41]	ahoy	i mean the actions matter more. so do the motivations
[03:41]	ahoy	rms alwasy put too much stock in terminology. only the ultra left really believes that verbs and adjectives change everything
[03:42]	ahoy	i do think free software was a better trademark than fake free software 
[03:42]	ahoy	it was a line of demarcation-- but the difference is what mattered, not the gematria or phrasing exactly
[03:42]	MinceR	well, words don't do everything, but it's often a good idea to pick them carefully
[03:42]	ahoy	one stood for freedom, the other didnt. if one was called boogers and the other was called... well, let mg sort out the colourful phrases
[03:44]	ahoy	whehter we actually build a federation or not, the future of free software is exodus
[03:44]	ahoy	its already been scattered. today we are slaves of github, but tomorrow we may be truly... actually tomorrow looks pretty bad for now
[03:45]	ahoy	im not entirely pessimistic. wasnt it edison that said genius is 1% inspiration and 99% fuck this already? theres still that 1%
[03:46]	AdmFubar	the 99% was stealing other ideas
[03:46]	ahoy	and credit!
[03:46]	ahoy	but yes
[03:46]	ahoy	if you dont steal the credit, the ideas are only half-stolen
[03:46]	ahoy	you might as well steal a tv and go back for the remote
[03:47]	MinceR	the 99% was discrediting competitors using better technology, apparently
[03:47]	MinceR	edison was an asshole in a suit
[03:47]	ahoy	and the first eulas
[03:48]	ahoy	im pretty sure bill gates has a picture of edison on his ceiling
[03:48]	ahoy	one of the ceilings anyway
[03:48]	AdmFubar	no bill wants to steal all of edisons credit..
[03:48]	ahoy	i thought that was elon
[03:48]	MinceR	i don't want to know what bill gAIDS has on his ceiling
[03:49]	ahoy	hey guys, i invented a service where you can "email" physical...
[03:49]	ahoy	"thats called the post"
[03:49]	ahoy	"oh yeah, damn"
[03:52]	ahoy	if the dead guy from the eff were around, or the one they just booted out, he would say that people will react to the sfs like an internet node and route around it
[03:52]	ahoy	fsf ^
[03:52]	ahoy	which they probably will eventually
[03:53]	ahoy	the question is how much longer are they going to flog a dead horse before they realise its actually dead
[03:54]	ahoy	ive been making dead parrot jokes about it for 3 years now
[03:54]	MinceR	another question is how long is the community going to just let the suits take over free software projects using the SJW troll armies
[03:55]	ahoy	the sjws, while not a non problem-- you have to understand, i never subscribe to the "we dont have to do anything because it will take care of itself" argument
[03:55]	ahoy	its like saying a wildfire or housefire will burn itself out. it will, of course
[03:55]	ahoy	thats a really stupid way to fight (most) fires
[03:56]	ahoy	i mean some things are actually better left alone. but often thats the worst way to resolve a crisis before...
[03:56]	ahoy	i mean look at it this way: its crystalmaths solution to covid. what else do i have to say? 
[03:57]	ahoy	note hate for crystalmath, though i dont hate america quite that much
[03:57]	ahoy	no hate ^
[03:57]	ahoy	im not in love either, theres a happy and cynical medium
[03:58]	ahoy	the sjws will of course destroy themselves
[03:58]	ahoy	they eat their own. look at linus. trumped by his own... jim is worse
[03:58]	ahoy	linus did it to free software, zemlin did it to linus
[03:59]	ahoy	if he were around, edison would do it to zemlin
[03:59]	MinceR	was linus an sjw before they got to him? didn't seem like that to me
[03:59]	ahoy	mostly? no, not at all
[03:59]	ahoy	but um, that thing where he said "free software is about hate" was a pretty sjw moment
[03:59]	ahoy	i dont think that was really HIS idea
● Feb 26
[04:00]	ahoy	my point wasnt really that hes an sjw
[04:00]	ahoy	hes open source-- and open source, like sjws, eat their own
[04:00]	ahoy	thats the main comparison 
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[04:02]	ahoy	you know where the former sjws are headed, yes?
[04:02]	ahoy	its not about race or marginalisation anymore (actually im sure it will be for a long time)
[04:02]	ahoy	the next theme is NICENESS
[04:02]	ahoy	everybody is going to be NICE. 
[04:02]	MinceR	interesting, i missed that story
[04:02]	ahoy	yeah they havent published it yet
[04:02]	ahoy	call it a prediction
[04:03]	MinceR	well, it seems to me that several former SJWs have become marginalized
[04:03]	MinceR	bully deblanc lost her job
[04:03]	ahoy	open source eats their own
[04:03]	MinceR	matthew gafam seems to be out of favor
[04:03]	ahoy	molly exists at the confluence of sjw and open source
[04:03]	ahoy	so the sjw theme is dying off (a bit at least)
[04:04]	ahoy	and you need a theme to take its place, so im calling it now: NICENESS
[04:04]	ahoy	think tienammen square
[04:04]	ahoy	the song "shiny happy people" came from a chinese propagdanda poster
[04:04]	ahoy	which at least was put together by people who could tpye.
[04:04]	MinceR	so torvalds caved to the SJW CoC in 2018, but he already caved on the utterly horrid hype-V code and talked shit about people wary of MICROS~1 back in 2009 ( https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/07/linus-torvalds-microsoft-hatred-is-a-disease/ )
[04:04]	TR Bot	 Linus Torvalds: Microsoft hatred is a disease | Ars Technica
[04:04]	MinceR	good to know
[04:05]	ahoy	shiny happy people is going to be the theme of lieplanet 2023, because its too late to retheme the 2022 oen
[04:05]	MinceR	https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Happiness_Is_Mandatory
[04:05]	TR Bot	 Happiness Is Mandatory - All The Tropes
[04:05]	ahoy	im blaming rubber domes for all of these typos. ive never used a mechanical, but im blaming rubber domes anyway
[04:05]	MinceR	:>
[04:06]		*techrights_guest|42 is now known as eskimo
[04:06]	ahoy	this is actually the nicest (still cheap) rubber dome kb ive ever owned
[04:07]	ahoy	but i can tell the "c" key is already more shy than the others
[04:07]	ahoy	not surprising when the "c" isnt even visible on it anymore
[04:09]	MinceR	PBT keycaps are more resistant to wear than ABS keycaps
[04:09]	ahoy	i should scan and 3d print replacements
[04:09]	ahoy	after getting a 3d scanner and printer of course
[04:10]	ahoy	but what a cool hack that would be for a $20 keyboard
[04:10]	ahoy	only cost a few thousand to dix
[04:10]	ahoy	ok now its just messing with me
[04:10]	ahoy	while im at it can i move the d farther from the f
[04:11]	CrystalMath	ahoy: i don't really hate america, i just hate what they do
[04:11]	ahoy	i never discovered i had dyslexia until i got a keyboard
[04:11]	ahoy	i hate what american does too of course
[04:12]	ahoy	i mean its got a mixed bag of a history-- genocide is never a great start
[04:12]	ahoy	slavery
[04:12]	ahoy	microsoft...
[04:13]	ahoy	epstein was american?
[04:13]	CrystalMath	i hate the hypocrisy the most
[04:13]	CrystalMath	and this "nobody thinks otherwise" mentality
[04:13]	ahoy	america should be banned from wars until they promise to only do it for good reasons
[04:14]	CrystalMath	like... yes, tehre's always someone who thinks otherwise
[04:14]	ahoy	but thats basically what the un is (allegedly) for, and you see how thats turned out in practice
[04:14]	CrystalMath	there are people who think they should die, they commit suicide, so we're not even united on the idea of life
[04:14]	CrystalMath	we're never united and we will never be
[04:14]	CrystalMath	unless something monstrous like mind control happens
[04:14]	MinceR	speaking of hypocrisy...
[04:14]	ahoy	my problem with suicide is its never the right people-- or the right time
[04:14]	MinceR	you keep talking about how horrible the things usians and ukrainians do, but apparently serbia has the right to commit any atrocity they feel like
[04:14]	ahoy	like hitler was the right person-- but he was awful about procrastinating. thats just the most obvious example
[04:14]	kingoffrance	mind control always happens.  religion: let me program you   magician: ill do it myself
[04:15]	MinceR	and when someone tries to stop them, those people are satan?
[04:15]	ahoy	epstein is a more recent one-- he waited too long, plus he didnt do it at all
[04:15]	kingoffrance	as annoying as it is to squabble about words, that what words are -- thought control.  conway's law :D
[04:15]	kingoffrance	dont go down the path of lee ....that's the dark side...
[04:16]	ahoy	/me controls his own thoughts using conways law
[04:16]	MinceR	nationalism is a terrible drug
[04:16]	kingoffrance	:)
[04:16]	CrystalMath	MinceR: what?
[04:16]	ahoy	isnt conways law also thought control?
[04:16]	kingoffrance	yes
[04:16]	CrystalMath	MinceR: i did say kosovo has a right to be independent too
[04:16]	ahoy	we dont need no thought control
[04:16]	CrystalMath	MinceR: i don't like what serbia did back then in that case
[04:17]	MinceR	CrystalMath: so why do you have a hateboner on the USA again?
[04:18]	ahoy	worse of 4 evils
[04:18]	ahoy	even though im sceptical
[04:18]	CrystalMath	MinceR: afghanistan, iraq, vietnam, libya especially, syria
[04:18]	ahoy	there are many things i dislike about the usa
[04:18]	ahoy	being worse than china isnt one of them, for reasons that should be obvious
[04:18]	MinceR	i guess my memory is really poor because that's not what i seemed to recall
[04:19]	ahoy	funnily enough i agree with all of crystalmaths reasons 
[04:19]	ahoy	just not the conclusion (or the sum)
[04:20]	ahoy	i mean i feel pretty much the same about afghanistan, iraq, vietnam, libya, syria
[04:20]	ahoy	how fair (or unfair) is it to blame every country that relies on oil for this? not necessarily equally of course, thats certainly not fair
[04:20]	ahoy	when the british for example, condemn the usa, my first thought is "so youll stop following them to every bullshit war, right?"
[04:21]	ahoy	no, because... who are we kidding
[04:21]	ahoy	but the condemnation is still based on an honest assessment. still, we already agreed that hypocrisy is a terrible offense, so...
[04:22]	ahoy	but hypocrisy is worse when usa does it (and it might actually be, because some are bigger hypocrites than others) but still
[04:22]	ahoy	its hard to rate all these things. we might need hey hi
[04:22]	CrystalMath	MinceR: and also, if it was okay to attack serbia, you must also say that it's okay to attack ukraine
[04:23]	ahoy	3% cat, 40% hypocrite, 200% oil profits
[04:23]	CrystalMath	MinceR: otherwise you're a hypocrite, it's the same situation
[04:23]	CrystalMath	i don't like what ukraine is doing
[04:23]	MinceR	CrystalMath: what are ukraine's crimes against humanity?
[04:23]	MinceR	not what putler alleged, because that's pure bullshit
[04:23]	CrystalMath	blocking the water supply to crimea is pretty inhumane
[04:23]	MinceR	and?
[04:23]	CrystalMath	bombing the donbass region every day
[04:23]	CrystalMath	striking children's hospitals
[04:24]	MinceR	bombing russian invaders in donbass is a crime against humanity?
[04:24]	CrystalMath	it's just people
[04:24]	MinceR	what are they supposed to do, lie down and ask to be taken as slaves?
[04:24]	MinceR	anything else?
[04:24]	CrystalMath	no, accept their freedom and independence from ukraine
[04:24]	MinceR	oh, right
[04:24]	MinceR	being owned by putler is "freedom and independence" now
[04:24]	ahoy	crystalmath: youre against the occupation of palestine, right?
[04:25]	MinceR	like how stalinists tell me i'm supposed to be grateful for the russians because they took over from the germans
[04:25]	CrystalMath	otherwise, one could also say "bombing albanian invaders in kosovo is a crime against humanity?"
[04:25]	CrystalMath	ahoy: absolutely
[04:25]	MinceR	"yay, i have a new owner now!"
[04:25]	MinceR	fuck that.
[04:25]	MinceR	anything else?
[04:25]	ahoy	be careful when disagreeing with stalinists, theyve got icepicks
[04:25]	MinceR	lol
[04:25]	CrystalMath	MinceR: how do you not see the hypocrisy?
[04:25]	MinceR	i don't care about the ice picks, i'm worried about the WMDs
[04:26]	MinceR	so anyway, what i've seen about serbia were ethnic cleansing, genocide and a policy of rape
[04:26]	MinceR	it seems that ukraines alleged crimes are minuscule compared to what the serbs did
[04:26]	CrystalMath	serbia was not even accused of those things
[04:26]	MinceR	uh huh
[04:26]	CrystalMath	you're probably mistaking us for the serbian republic
[04:26]	CrystalMath	which is a bosnian breakaway state
[04:26]	MinceR	great
[04:27]	CrystalMath	it still exists
[04:27]	CrystalMath	as an autonomous part of bosnia
[04:28]	MinceR	somehow massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, unspecified "crimes against humanity" and genocide still come up
[04:28]	MinceR	during the "yugoslav wars"
[04:28]	ahoy	minxer: with luck they cut as many corners with the weapons as they did in the stolovayas
[04:29]	ahoy	mincer:
[04:29]	MinceR	conveniently, milosevic died before a verdict could be reached about him
[04:30]	ahoy	the people who actually needed the weapons got lower grade plutonium and the officers took most of it home for themselves
[04:30]	MinceR	ahoy: i suspect even dirty bombs could do horrible things
[04:30]	MinceR	hell, putler's apparently preparing to blow up the power plant in chernobyl
[04:31]	MinceR	he went right for it and there was greatly increased radiation
[04:31]	ahoy	i guess hes given up on his smug superiority that he lords over the west and decided "if you cant beat them, beat them"
[04:32]	kingoffrance	ahoy: i should say i favor of von neumann machines, code is data, data is code, reflective. story of mel :)
[04:32]	ahoy	maybe this will push the people under him to be more enthusiastic about fixing the problem at the root
[04:32]	ahoy	please dont get me wrong-- im not an optimist
[04:33]	MinceR	i don't think this will be fixed
[04:33]	ahoy	i mean there were nazi officials that tried to get rid of hitler
[04:33]	MinceR	the west is just backing away, leaving millions of people to slavery
[04:33]	ahoy	unfortunately their knowledge of ballistics was far inferior to a couple of guys on cable television
[04:34]	MinceR	and even if vladolf was assassinated, i have no doubt that there are plenty of monsters just like him who are ready to take his place
[04:34]	ahoy	fair point, but even if they were 10% less horrible, that might be just enough to end these tactics, if not the war
[04:34]	ahoy	i mean, quite literally, not everyone is putin
[04:35]	ahoy	a lot of my logic is based on standup comedy. the only difference is im not kidding
[04:35]	MinceR	he has soldiers who will just drive over a car with their tank for fun
[04:35]	MinceR	with someone in the car
[04:35]	ahoy	i mean im not ready to joke about ukranian lives, im really hoping for a good outcome against all odds.
[04:35]	MinceR	his soldiers have no reservations about taking over a nuclear power plant
[04:35]	ahoy	but that doesnt make me an optimist
[04:35]	MinceR	it was a prime target
[04:35]	MinceR	these are barbarians
[04:36]	MinceR	they do not understand being asked nicely to leave
[04:36]	MinceR	they do not understand sanctions
[04:36]	ahoy	or they simply dont care
[04:36]	ahoy	or theyre all hostages of an insane leader
[04:36]	ahoy	or all of the above
[04:36]	MinceR	and yet that's what the UN and the NATO and the EU are trying to use to stop him
[04:36]	MinceR	the only thing they understand is nuclear bombardment
[04:37]	ahoy	the un has done a marvelous job of looking busy and useful decade after decade after decade
[04:37]	ahoy	to be fair, we are still here. to be more accurate, just barely
[04:38]	CrystalMath	MinceR: Miloevi was charged with secretly aiding the serbian republic
[04:38]	CrystalMath	he wasn't guilty, really
[04:38]	ahoy	the un is part of the reason that drones are so important
[04:38]	CrystalMath	you may have seen other names, like Radovan Karadi
[04:38]	CrystalMath	that was the *president* of the serbian republic
[04:38]	ahoy	drones can be conventional, and like you say, the un isnt smart enough to figure what to do with that
[04:39]	ahoy	"well um... we could put sanctions on batteries!"
[04:39]	MinceR	i haven't seen the UN as useful in a long time
[04:39]	MinceR	especially after seeing what the WIPO has done against us all
[04:39]	ahoy	theyre very useful in a theoretical way
[04:39]	ahoy	yeah wipo is my favourite part of the un
[04:39]	MinceR	or the WHO, which is just spreading the propaganda of whoever pays them the most
[04:39]	MinceR	which currently happens to be red china
[04:40]	CrystalMath	<@MinceR> they do not understand being asked nicely to leave
[04:40]	CrystalMath	<@MinceR> these are barbarians
[04:40]	CrystalMath	yeah when i'm angry i say the same things about ukrainians!
[04:40]	CrystalMath	but i'm sure it's not really true
[04:40]	ahoy	at least roger waters is against the occupation of palestine
[04:40]	ahoy	but thats floyd, not the who
[04:41]	CrystalMath	MinceR: was ukraine not asked nicely to leave donbass alone?
[04:41]	CrystalMath	they had 8 years
[04:41]	MinceR	CrystalMath: was russia not asked nicely to leave donbass and crimea alone?
[04:42]	MinceR	humans are pretty horrible in general, but i think putler and his lackeys are a special kind of savage evil
[04:42]	CrystalMath	MinceR: and let the people get slaughtered?
[04:42]	CrystalMath	MinceR: okay, why didn't the US then leave serbia and kosovo alone
[04:42]	CrystalMath	the separatists would get slaughtered, that's what you want
[04:42]	CrystalMath	BUT YOU CAN'T WANT IT IN ONLY ONE CASE
[04:42]	CrystalMath	that's what i can't stand
[04:42]	CrystalMath	you can want it in both cases, or none
[04:42]	CrystalMath	for me, it's none
[04:42]	ahoy	i think putler and his lackeys are a special kind of savage <- mincer: the kind that has that much power. thats generally what creates such people
[04:43]	MinceR	CrystalMath: why didn't serbia leave kosovo alone?
[04:43]	CrystalMath	MinceR: why didn't ukraine leave donbass alone?
[04:43]	ahoy	stalin didnt set out to be one of the most outstanding arseholes in the history of civilisation
[04:43]	ahoy	he sort of fell into it
[04:43]	ahoy	im not excusing him
[04:43]	ahoy	power gets to people
[04:43]	CrystalMath	MinceR: be consistent please
[04:43]	MinceR	CrystalMath: there's a difference between separatists wanting to be independent and russians pretending that people want the area to belong to russia
[04:43]	MinceR	ahoy: i suspect stalin was special too
[04:43]	ahoy	all he had to do was shoot himself and it would have saved europe untold amounts of trouble
[04:44]	ahoy	he could have also retired
[04:44]	ahoy	and im sure he would have carved out a nice plan for himself
[04:44]	MinceR	none of this stupid shit would have happened if people didn't accept the principle of people getting to run other people's lives
[04:44]	ahoy	but nearly unlimited power is obviously addictive and people dont want to let go of it
[04:45]	MinceR	people getting to own other people
[04:45]	ahoy	none of this stupid shit would have happened if people didn't accept the principle of people getting to run other people's lives <- its very difficult to have a government without that though
[04:45]	ahoy	almost by definition
[04:45]	MinceR	that's the thing
[04:45]	MinceR	we shouldn't have governments
[04:45]	MinceR	we should have megacorporations and churches either
[04:46]	MinceR	we should aspire to be adults who run their own lives
[04:46]	ahoy	while i actually agree with you completely on that, our ideal method of getting away from that would probably differ substantially
[04:46]	ahoy	mine is extremely counterintuitive
[04:46]	MinceR	i don't know if there is a method for humans
[04:46]	ahoy	if there is, its tricky
[04:46]	MinceR	there are way too many stupid humans and way too many humans with the authoritarian personality type
[04:46]	ahoy	both true
[04:48]	ahoy	those are also both problems that are notoriously difficult to change
[04:48]	CrystalMath	MinceR: donbass wants to be independent
[04:48]	ahoy	is there any chance that donbass was legitimately (not sure what that means in this context) a part of the ukraine?
[04:48]	MinceR	says who?
[04:48]	CrystalMath	MinceR: the people there
[04:49]	CrystalMath	these are basically "anti-maidan" people
[04:49]	MinceR	and how is it that we haven't heard of it before russia decided to send their little green men into ukraine?
[04:49]	CrystalMath	we heard of it in 2014 when they declared independence
[04:49]	MinceR	"anti-maidan", in other words, russian puppets?
[04:49]	CrystalMath	russia did not recognize them
[04:49]	CrystalMath	no
[04:49]	CrystalMath	there are people who are not russian puppets and who are anti-EU
[04:49]	CrystalMath	look at brexit
[04:49]	CrystalMath	are they russian puppets?
[04:49]	MinceR	curious how they didn't think to declare independence without russian soldiers being around
[04:49]	CrystalMath	brexit and anti-maidan is the same
[04:49]	MinceR	brexit? they're blithering idiots
[04:50]	CrystalMath	that's your opinion
[04:50]	MinceR	and some of them are starting to realize how hard they fucked up
[04:50]	ahoy	my problem with the donbas thing-- and its not something im following closely
[04:50]	CrystalMath	i think brexit is right
[04:50]	CrystalMath	i'm very much pro-brexit
[04:50]	MinceR	the "conservatives" told lots of lies about what brexit would accomplish
[04:50]	ahoy	is it reminds me of certain people in palestine who also want to be "independent"
[04:50]	MinceR	and they were proven to be lies by reality
[04:50]	MinceR	but go ahead and ignore reality
[04:50]	ahoy	and by "independent" i mean "controlled by israel"
[04:50]	CrystalMath	at least no doofus started a eurosquare
[04:50]	MinceR	live in a dream world
[04:50]	ahoy	and most of palestine doesnt want to be annexed
[04:51]	ahoy	but some are "independent"
[04:51]	CrystalMath	MinceR: imagine there was a eurosquare and anti-brexiters forcefully couped the government
[04:51]	MinceR	just don't be too surprised when reality finally shatters your illusion
[04:51]	CrystalMath	and then a part of england filled with brexiters wanted to secede
[04:51]	CrystalMath	maidan is ukrainian for square
[04:51]	ahoy	if donbass is anything like palestine, and russia is anything like israel...
[04:51]	MinceR	CrystalMath: maybe stop imagining things, stop reading/watching putler's propaganda and try to find out what really is out there
[04:51]	CrystalMath	ahoy: donbass wants to be in russia rather than the EU
[04:51]	CrystalMath	MinceR: what i know is that *I* don't want to be in the EU
[04:51]	CrystalMath	if i was british, i would be pro-brexit
[04:51]	MinceR	then move?
[04:51]	CrystalMath	i'm not in the EU
[04:52]	ahoy	crystalmath: but according to whom, is the question
[04:52]	CrystalMath	but like, here 51% doesn't want to be in the EU
[04:52]	CrystalMath	why should WE move?
[04:52]	ahoy	i mean, theyre obviously not unanimous on it
[04:52]	ahoy	so there has to be some other assessment
[04:52]	CrystalMath	ahoy: the majority voted for an anti-EU government... that was couped!
[04:52]	ahoy	which seems to be being played out right now with death
[04:52]	MinceR	then don't become EU members, who cares
[04:52]	MinceR	maybe there will be a serbia-shaped hole in the EU and you'll get to pay levies
[04:53]	ahoy	ahoy: the majority voted for an anti-EU government... that was couped! hmm
[04:53]	CrystalMath	MinceR: there's a good chance the puppets the west places here will force us in
[04:53]	MinceR	in CrystalMath's world, every election is perfectly free and fair
[04:53]	CrystalMath	then what?
[04:53]	CrystalMath	ahoy: yes, euromaidan is the whole problem with ukraine
[04:53]	MinceR	CrystalMath: well, if elections can't fail, then stop worrying about it
[04:54]	ahoy	mincer: whats wrong with the vote for the anti-eu government?
[04:54]	CrystalMath	MinceR: EU support in the polls hovers around 50%
[04:54]	MinceR	if the majority doesn't want serbia to join the EU, those alleged puppets won't get to control serbia
[04:54]	CrystalMath	MinceR: sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down
[04:54]	MinceR	ahoy: nothing, i don't care
[04:54]	CrystalMath	our leaders are pretending to be pro-russian
[04:54]	CrystalMath	just like yours are pretending to not be
[04:54]	MinceR	ahoy: if they want difficulty with borders and they want a crippled economy, they should go ahead with it
[04:54]	CrystalMath	MinceR: also, why should the will of the 49% be squashed?
[04:55]	CrystalMath	if we just split, we would all be happy
[04:55]	MinceR	CrystalMath: hungary hasn't had free or fair elections since 2010
[04:55]	ahoy	ah, that answers my question
[04:55]	MinceR	CrystalMath: by your rhetoric, if we finally executed a revolution and got rid of putler's puppet, that would be a "coup"
[04:55]	ahoy	oh wait, hungary. no it doesnt
[04:55]	CrystalMath	MinceR: yes it would be
[04:55]	MinceR	ah, so you do support orban
[04:55]	MinceR	well, then we don't have anything to discuss anymore
[04:55]	CrystalMath	MinceR: well it's the definition isn't it?
[04:56]	CrystalMath	maybe not all coups are bad
[04:56]	MinceR	go sit with the other fidSS fans
[04:56]	CrystalMath	what is that even
[04:56]	ahoy	no, some coups are definitely good
[04:56]	ahoy	i think so far, the majority of them were definitely crap
[04:56]	MinceR	fidesz = fidSS = fideath = hungarian communist party = hungarian nazi party = the hungarian representatives of united russia and the communist party of china
[04:57]	MinceR	anyway, it's well past my bedtime, i shouldn't argue with authoritarians any more
[04:57]	ahoy	also having "death" in the name of your party is terrible branding
[04:57]	CrystalMath	ahoy: it's probably called fidesz
[04:57]	MinceR	they didn't put it there, i did
[04:57]	ahoy	oh okay
[04:57]	CrystalMath	that's pronounced as an s
[04:58]	MinceR	they call themselves "alliance of young democrats" and every word of that is a lie
[04:58]	CrystalMath	a single s without z in hungarian is sh
[04:58]	ahoy	fideath also looks incredibly irish
[04:58]	CrystalMath	MinceR: except for "of"
[04:58]	CrystalMath	:P
[04:58]	ahoy	thanks for clarifying crystalmath
[04:58]	CrystalMath	so it sounds kinda like "fideath" if you pronounce it (but using the english th)
[04:58]	MinceR	for a while they tried to rebrand as "hungarian party of citizens" or whatever, and that would have been a lie too
● Feb 26
[05:00]	CrystalMath	i'm reading about them, they say they're anti-communist
[05:00]	ahoy	isnt everybody
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[05:01]	CrystalMath	"Marxist ideology led to the death of tens of millions and ruined the lives of hundreds of millions. The celebration of its founder is a mockery of their memory."
[05:01]	CrystalMath	from a letter from fidesz
[05:03]	ahoy	i used to think horseshoe theory was incredibly useful, but its far too oversimplified
[05:03]	ahoy	stalin literally worked together with hitler anyway
[05:03]	CrystalMath	"We must state that we do not want to be diverse and do not want to be mixed: we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others. We do not want this. We do not want that at all. We do not want to be a diverse country." - Viktor Orbn
[05:04]	CrystalMath	well... this... is a little too anti-communist
[05:04]	CrystalMath	heh
[05:04]	ahoy	 we do not want to be diverse <- that could get very messy
[05:04]	ahoy	all my best friends are diverse
[05:06]	ahoy	we do not want our own colour, traditions and national culture to be mixed with those of others <- when you assume all your traditions are "native" its only one step away from modern copyright laws
[05:06]	CrystalMath	"The government has often propagated Fidesz's political ideas in tax-funded advertisements, putting up posters portraying a grinning George Soros, while calling on the citizens to oppose his purported support of illegal immigration (many of the posters portraying Soros, who is Jewish, were defaced with antisemitic graffiti),"
[05:07]	CrystalMath	"Additionally, various party members have been accused of antisemitism."
[05:08]	CrystalMath	they don't like jews, they don't like race mixing, hmm
[05:08]	ahoy	it does sound a bit familiar
[05:08]	ahoy	hitler may have worked with stalin
[05:08]	ahoy	he also killed A LOT of communists
[05:08]	ahoy	as did stalin, of course
[05:09]	CrystalMath	interesting that you mentioned it, because, there was actually an anarchist commune ruling the area now known as donbass
[05:09]	CrystalMath	Lenin first pretended to be on their side, then crushed them and absorbed them into the soviet union
[05:10]	ahoy	communists and anarcho communists tend to not agree on important issues
[05:10]	CrystalMath	it was the historic Novorossiya
[05:11]	ahoy	ultimately communists want communism then anarchy, and anarcho communists want anarchy, then communism
[05:12]	CrystalMath	the separatists in donbass in 2014 wanted to form a novorossiya federation
[05:12]	MinceR	26 060042 < CrystalMath> i'm reading about them, they say they're anti-communist
[05:12]	CrystalMath	for some reason, they never even joined it themselves
[05:12]	MinceR	oh, yes
[05:12]	ahoy	when did lenin crush the commune there?
[05:12]	CrystalMath	ahoy: 1918
[05:13]	CrystalMath	ahoy: the communists declared it a part of the ukrainian soviet republic
[05:13]	MinceR	as we know, one of the primary things you can expect from "anti-communists" is to appropriate public funds to build a "university" (called Fudan) on prime real estate which requires its staff and students to obey the law of red china and to be loyal to the CPC
[05:13]	MinceR	very anti-communist.
[05:13]	ahoy	thats the problem with wanting to do something and having a really terrible plan
[05:14]	MinceR	although i've already heard from some idiot that the CPC is not communist
[05:14]	MinceR	maybe the communists are anti-communists too!
[05:14]	ahoy	it always depends what you mean by communist 
[05:14]	CrystalMath	MinceR: communists generally don't accept it
[05:14]	CrystalMath	they call it fascist / state capitalist
[05:14]	ahoy	communists are invariably anti-communist
[05:14]	MinceR	orban also likes to pose as the guy who sent the russians out of the country
[05:14]	ahoy	just like many christians are against all other forms of christianity. well, ok not exactly like that
[05:14]	ahoy	but theres a certain degree of similarity
[05:14]	MinceR	20 years later he's sucking off putler and nobody bats an eye
[05:14]	CrystalMath	would be funny if the communist party of china said it's anti-communist
[05:15]	ahoy	i mean if you tell china youre a communist
[05:15]	MinceR	i don't know if there's a form of life on earth that's stupider than the average fideath follower.
[05:15]	ahoy	and youre against what china is doing
[05:15]	CrystalMath	ahoy: that's still off to the gulag
[05:15]	ahoy	theyre DEFINITELY against that (and probably most) kinds of communisty
[05:15]	ahoy	its not like you just say "
[05:15]	CrystalMath	if you say, i'm an anti-communist but i like what you're doing
[05:15]	CrystalMath	they don't seem to mind
[05:16]	CrystalMath	they build a university in your country
[05:16]	MinceR	well, red china is now buddies with orban, putler and the talibans
[05:16]	MinceR	nothing matters to these sociopaths except owning slaves
[05:16]	CrystalMath	i also recognize the islamic emirate of afghanistan
[05:16]	MinceR	and fucking up people's lives
[05:16]	CrystalMath	and accept the taliban as its leaders...
[05:16]	ahoy	communisty <- im ditching the rubber dome excuse and going to say ive been hacked by professor unwin instead
[05:16]	CrystalMath	that doesn't mean i "support" the taliban
[05:16]	CrystalMath	but i believe they have a right to do their own thing
[05:17]	MinceR	it does sound a hell of a lot like you do
[05:17]	CrystalMath	i'm VERY happy that the US left
[05:17]	ahoy	you dont seem like a big taliban fan
[05:17]	MinceR	oh yeah
[05:17]	MinceR	they have a right to do their own thing
[05:17]	CrystalMath	absolutely
[05:17]	MinceR	their subjects? not so much
[05:17]	MinceR	fuck them.
[05:17]	CrystalMath	i want every corner of this earth to have different laws
[05:17]	ahoy	yeah us involvement in the middle east rareley improves anything, unless youre an industry of some kind
[05:17]	CrystalMath	some part must then have sharia law
[05:17]	MinceR	who cares about most of the afghans?
[05:17]	MinceR	i want every corner of this universe to have no laws in that sense
[05:17]	CrystalMath	since they fought for decades to have sharia law
[05:17]	MinceR	maybe you should move there and be subject to sharia
[05:17]	CrystalMath	it makes sense for that one part that must have it to be, well, that part
[05:18]	MinceR	find out how delightful it is.
[05:18]	CrystalMath	i'm not a muslim
[05:18]	MinceR	who cares
[05:18]	MinceR	?
[05:18]	CrystalMath	but muslims who support it can do that
[05:18]	ahoy	everyone has a great reason for going to war. they just usually dont actually go for those reasons
[05:18]	CrystalMath	and i'm for that, that they can, you know?
[05:18]	MinceR	did anyone ask the people living in afghanistan if they were muslims?
[05:18]	MinceR	did anyone ask the people enslaved by religious fundamentalist states if they agree with the religion of their oppressors
[05:18]	MinceR	??
[05:18]	MinceR	that's the whole point
[05:18]	CrystalMath	they can move out
[05:18]	ahoy	dont worry, lieplanet will bring unity
[05:18]	MinceR	lol
[05:18]	CrystalMath	it's not forbidden
[05:19]	MinceR	yeah, they can get killed trying to escape
[05:19]	ahoy	everyone will sign the code of conduct 
[05:19]	MinceR	like people trying to escape east berlin
[05:19]	CrystalMath	ahoy: not me!
[05:19]	CrystalMath	ahoy: never unity! always division
[05:19]	ahoy	why do you hate unity?
[05:19]	MinceR	CrystalMath: it really sounds like you haven't thought of this much
[05:19]	CrystalMath	MinceR: it's not forbidden to leave
[05:19]	CrystalMath	MinceR: the taliban allow it
[05:19]	ahoy	unity is awesome. everyone should agree, its so much nicer. i mean agree with me personally.
[05:20]	MinceR	which unity?
[05:20]	ahoy	mine!
[05:20]	MinceR	the shitty desktop environment?
[05:20]	ahoy	definitely not that one
[05:20]	MinceR	or the even shittier game engine that comes with MICROS~1's botNET framework?
[05:20]	ahoy	not the mono gaming platform either
[05:20]	ahoy	nope nope
[05:20]	MinceR	humanity will be unified in the grave
[05:20]	ahoy	and probably not unity with fideath either
[05:20]	ahoy	you have to understand how unity works
[05:21]	MinceR	since almost nobody can be convinced to let others be, apparently
[05:21]	ahoy	it never works if everyone just agrees on just ANYTHING
[05:21]	ahoy	they have to agree on the RIGHT things
[05:21]	MinceR	CrystalMath wants a patchwork of diverse flavors of extreme oppression
[05:21]	MinceR	the axis of evil apparently agrees
[05:21]	ahoy	yes but on the wrong thing
[05:21]	ahoy	thats why theyre the axis of evil
[05:21]	MinceR	well, guess what
[05:22]	ahoy	at least they can agree on labeling things properly, thats always a good place to start
[05:22]	MinceR	science and technology don't develop well under extreme oppression
[05:22]	CrystalMath	MinceR: for sure i want there to still be an america zone
[05:22]	CrystalMath	just one that leaves others alone
[05:22]	ahoy	which is exactly my point
[05:22]	MinceR	and the next asteroid that comes around to kill us all isn't going to ask if you're good christians or whatever
[05:22]	MinceR	if you don't have the right tech, you're dead
[05:22]	ahoy	everyone should be forced to agree on science and technology without forcing them in a way that is extremely oppressive
[05:22]	CrystalMath	and lets them "suffer", because what *they* think is suffering is maybe not suffering
[05:22]	MinceR	and so's everything else that lives on this planet
[05:22]	MinceR	end of fucking story
[05:22]	ahoy	if we can all just agree to stop oppressing each other
[05:22]	ahoy	and maybe just oppress the people who dont agree with that,,,
[05:22]	ahoy	nothing can go wrong
[05:23]	CrystalMath	i think canadians are suffering
[05:23]	MinceR	either humanity gets rid of the memetic pathogens that are crippling its minds, or it will just go fucking extinct
[05:23]	CrystalMath	those vaccine mandates are freaking brutal
[05:23]	MinceR	and nothing of value will be lost.
[05:23]	MinceR	that's nature's deal.
[05:23]	ahoy	canadians would never be happy if we took away their suffering
[05:23]	MinceR	and if you don't like it, that's too bad.
[05:23]	eskimo	i like to oppress everyone
[05:23]	CrystalMath	ahoy: it seems so
[05:23]	CrystalMath	ahoy: so, i'm not gonna invade canada and force them to remove the mandates
[05:23]	MinceR	this planet will be uninhabitable 1 billion years from now, regardless of anything you do
[05:23]	MinceR	no amount of prayer will help you.
[05:23]	CrystalMath	MinceR: that's great
[05:24]	MinceR	well, if you want your species to die out, then yes
[05:24]	ahoy	we should move from prayer to spaceships for exactly that reason
[05:24]	CrystalMath	life doesn't make sense if it never ends
[05:24]	MinceR	and it certainly looks like the human species wants to go extinct
[05:24]	MinceR	that's great, because it's happening.
[05:24]	ahoy	though if i have a spaceship, im still going to pray when the engine makes funny noises
[05:24]	MinceR	lol
[05:24]	CrystalMath	MinceR: but your culture seems to be thinking about whether people have a right to die
[05:24]	CrystalMath	MinceR: they're thinking about forcing people to take immortality potions
[05:24]	CrystalMath	your culture = the west
[05:25]	CrystalMath	"for our own good"
[05:25]	MinceR	who's "my culture"?
[05:25]	CrystalMath	the west
[05:25]	MinceR	what "immortality potions"?
[05:25]	MinceR	please tell us about your dream before using it as context.
[05:26]	CrystalMath	i read some article by some "liberal" about how, if in the future there is something you can take to become immortal
[05:26]	CrystalMath	will it be morally allowed to choose NOT to take it?
[05:26]	ahoy	actually rms talked about that years ago
[05:26]	MinceR	that's not a liberal
[05:26]	CrystalMath	reminds me a lot of the vaccine mandates
[05:26]	ahoy	so liberals are far behind as usual
[05:26]	MinceR	and whether taking it is a good idea is a good question
[05:26]	CrystalMath	ahoy: this was years ago
[05:26]	CrystalMath	but it wasn't RMS
[05:26]	ahoy	ah okay
[05:26]	MinceR	dying (the unknown) or spending an eternity with the most horrible monsters the universe has come up with (humans)?
[05:26]	ahoy	its in his bio
[05:26]	MinceR	difficult choice.
[05:26]	ahoy	which against better judgment i bought from the fsf
[05:27]	ahoy	i dont regret reading it, only giving them money 
[05:27]	CrystalMath	this is why vaccine mandates are so scary
[05:27]	CrystalMath	if i want to die it's my right
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[05:28]	MinceR	no, that is not why vaccine mandates are scary
[05:28]	MinceR	vaccine mandates are scary because it means the state is making a decision for you
[05:28]	MinceR	and the state fucking sucks at making decisions
[05:28]	CrystalMath	at a basic level, yes
[05:28]	MinceR	at every level
[05:28]	MinceR	it's one of the worst things humanity has come up with
[05:28]	CrystalMath	but i'm also scared of the fact that they can literally try to force people to do something that is good for them
[05:28]	MinceR	religion being the other
[05:29]	CrystalMath	what if i don't want to feel good?
[05:29]	MinceR	you're in luck
[05:29]	MinceR	you're on earth
[05:29]	MinceR	among humans
[05:29]	MinceR	the best company if you want to feel bad.
[05:29]	CrystalMath	sometimes i'm so scared of this, that i think about commiting suicide now because in the future they'll be able to reconstruct me somehow
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[05:30]	ahoy	"Say somebody discovers an immortality serum. What do you do? What are the political results? If you give it to everybody, the world gets overcrowded and everybody dies. If you limit it, if you say everyone who's alive now can have it but their children can't, then you end up with an underclass of people without it. Richard was just better able than most to see the unforeseen circumstances of any decision."  
[05:30]	MinceR	does suicide affect that possibility?
[05:30]	ahoy	^ https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch04.html
[05:30]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: oreilly.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/freedom/ch04.html
[05:30]	TR Bot	 Free as in Freedom: Chapter 4
[05:30]	CrystalMath	other people are so awful, and they're awful precisely BECAUSE they wish good for everyone, not realizing that "good" is 100% relative and 0% absolute
[05:30]	CrystalMath	for me, my death is a good thing, sure i don't want it tomorrow
[05:30]	CrystalMath	but i want it some day
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[05:30]	CrystalMath	if you can't understand it, I DON'T CARE, because it's my life
[05:30]	CrystalMath	we are humans, we are not meant to understand each other
[05:30]	CrystalMath	we cannot understand each other
[05:30]	CrystalMath	every human is crazy to every other human
[05:31]	CrystalMath	so "crazy" doesn't exist
[05:31]	MinceR	there's nobody around to mean us to do anything
[05:31]	CrystalMath	true
[05:31]	CrystalMath	and that is another reason why absolute good / absolute morality is completely bogus
[05:32]	MinceR	not sure about that
[05:32]	ahoy	being sure would be absolute
[05:32]	ahoy	and its bogus
[05:32]	MinceR	isn't your assertion of letting people oppress other people in the way they see fit a principle of absolute morality?
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[05:33]	CrystalMath	MinceR: no, it's just resignation to the idea that i cannot know what is good or bad
[05:33]	CrystalMath	MinceR: so, people being free cannot be good or bad
[05:33]	ahoy	absolute non-absolute morality is one of the most important things to have unity about
[05:33]	CrystalMath	people working for a dictator cannot be good or bad
[05:33]	CrystalMath	the whole concepts went out the window
[05:33]	MinceR	you seem awfully sure of your ideals for someone who believes they cannot know what is good or bad.
[05:34]	CrystalMath	there is only one thing that can be done
[05:34]	MinceR	extinction?
[05:34]	CrystalMath	and that is, to base an ideology around the idea that everything is relative
[05:34]	MinceR	that idea is absolute
[05:34]	CrystalMath	yes but everything else is relative :P
[05:34]	CrystalMath	and, the fact that nothing is absolute is also absolute
[05:35]	CrystalMath	and i can now point back to "humans acnnot understand each other"
[05:35]	CrystalMath	:P
[05:35]	CrystalMath	*cannot
[05:35]	MinceR	only a Sith deals in absolutes.
[05:35]	MinceR	(also an absolute. oops!)
[05:35]	ahoy	conclusion: yoda is a sith
[05:35]	ahoy	"do or do not, there is no try"
[05:35]	MinceR	lol
[05:36]	ahoy	sorry if i ruined the next prequel before disney could
[05:36]	CrystalMath	but so, if good is unknowable, then i want the taliban to exist, since maybe they're good, who knows
[05:36]	CrystalMath	throw everything at the wall
[05:36]	CrystalMath	see what sticks
[05:37]	CrystalMath	you say their people are suffering, but i know plenty of people who like suffering, so you can't really know this is bad
[05:37]	ahoy	whatever god wants, he keeps
[05:38]	ahoy	i know plenty of people who like suffering, so you can't really know this is bad <- unless youre in donbass. then its bad
[05:39]	CrystalMath	yeah, the ideology i put forth must oppose all intervention then
[05:39]	CrystalMath	and what russia is doing, is an intervention
[05:39]	ahoy	for what its worth crystalmath, trying to save EVERYONE from suffering would ultimately cause other suffering they want even less
[05:39]	ahoy	so at least in that regard, youre right
[05:39]	ahoy	like mincer wants world peace
[05:39]	ahoy	but not in a way the world is likely to vote for
[05:39]	CrystalMath	right, well yeah, what i wrote is kind of strange in that the right conclusions come out, to me, but the intermediate steps are weird
[05:40]	CrystalMath	i actually did get to it by thinking about evolution
[05:40]	CrystalMath	and how evolution works
[05:40]	ahoy	im in favour of evolution, as long as i dont have to change
[05:40]	CrystalMath	also i read plenty of books on free market economies
[05:40]	ahoy	those are fun
[05:40]	CrystalMath	until i read those, back in like, 2017
[05:41]	CrystalMath	i was also convinced that there should be one system that fits all
[05:41]	CrystalMath	and i was some kind of communist
[05:41]	ahoy	not a marxist
[05:41]	CrystalMath	i even invented the social credit score
[05:41]	CrystalMath	before the chinese
[05:41]	ahoy	theyre really strict on the idea that different things apply to different situations
[05:41]	CrystalMath	it was like the 00s still
[05:41]	CrystalMath	i talked about it in high school, how much better that would be
[05:42]	ahoy	cory doctorow called it whuffie
[05:42]	CrystalMath	even tried to write a mathematical function that computes it
[05:42]	ahoy	he wanted to be clear later on, that he didnt necessarily think it was a good system
[05:42]	CrystalMath	of course
[05:42]	CrystalMath	it's terrible
[05:42]	CrystalMath	it's fascist, it's horrifying
[05:43]	ahoy	the great thing about social credit score is you just rate whatever you want to "gently force" people to do
[05:43]	CrystalMath	that's not great though
[05:43]	ahoy	the great thing about free market economies is they ultimately do the same thing, plus lots of handwaving 
[05:43]	CrystalMath	but alas, someone needs to try it
[05:43]	CrystalMath	true free market economies don't set a plan
[05:43]	CrystalMath	it's resigning the planning to nature
[05:43]	ahoy	i mean if one person walks from mexico and another takes the train, they both go to mexico
[05:44]	ahoy	its like a pound of bricks vs a pound of feathers
[05:44]	ahoy	but the feathers are softer
[05:44]	CrystalMath	no not really
[05:44]	AdmFubar	wait... where are they going?
[05:44]	CrystalMath	a true free market is a different result
[05:44]	ahoy	youd have to define true freedom first
[05:45]	CrystalMath	ahoy: the true fre e market is kinda like what i said above, resigning to nature, doing everything and seeing what sticks
[05:45]	CrystalMath	"just let it be"
[05:45]	ahoy	what if feeudalism is what sticks
[05:45]	CrystalMath	it didn't stick last time
[05:45]	ahoy	very true
[05:45]	CrystalMath	so it's unlikely
[05:46]	ahoy	do you think government-interventionist capitalism will stick?
[05:46]	CrystalMath	but, the use of force greatly slows down the search for the best thing
[05:46]	CrystalMath	america tried to eliminate the taliban
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[05:46]	CrystalMath	but they're a very important search node
[05:46]	AdmFubar	https://www.windowscentral.com/meta-has-dissolved-its-hybrid-metaverse-operating-system-development-team-says-report
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[05:46]	TR Bot	 Meta has dissolved its hybrid metaverse OS development team, says report | Windows Central
[05:47]	ahoy	so its just verse now? or just meta
[05:47]	AdmFubar	amd just jumped the shark  https://www.windowscentral.com/amd-approves-8-billion-stock-repurchase-program
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[05:47]	TR Bot	 AMD approves $8 billion stock repurchase program | Windows Central
[05:48]	ahoy	if meta was trying to be meta, theyve succeded
[05:48]	AdmFubar	they have meta the enemy and it is them...
[05:48]	ahoy	nice
[05:49]	kingoffrance	"the true fre e market is kinda like what i said above, resigning to nature"  meta, credit, pieces of paper..........no, markets trend towards imaginary land, 180 of nature
[05:49]	kingoffrance	all about abstracting 
[05:49]	kingoffrance	deserves? [nature] has got nothing to do with it </clint eastwood movie>
[05:50]	kingoffrance	also...
[05:50]	CrystalMath	i said the *true* free market :P
[05:50]	kingoffrance	markets were people, not corporations
[05:50]	kingoffrance	markets are long gone
[05:50]	kingoffrance	ancient history
[05:50]	kingoffrance	died with my nick
[05:50]	kingoffrance	*long before that
[05:51]	kingoffrance	i said to someone the other day:  there's no cathedrals (grace is long gone, replaced by law)  and no markets (above)
[05:51]	kingoffrance	*bazaars
[05:51]	kingoffrance	its a totally obsolete analogy by centuries :D
[05:51]	ahoy	whats left then?
[05:52]	kingoffrance	i was gonna say, sorry for so many lines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectacle_(critical_theory)
[05:52]	TR Bot	 Spectacle (critical theory) - Wikipedia
[05:52]	kingoffrance	was pointed out by "marxists" that everything becomes more and more imaginary
[05:52]	kingoffrance	although "capitalists" might say the shoe is on the other foot
[05:53]	kingoffrance	well, there's simulations :)
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[05:53]	kingoffrance	corporation is mimicking a natural person
[05:53]	kingoffrance	credit is mimicking money, etc.
[05:53]	ahoy	a very hungry person 
[05:53]	kingoffrance	lol
[05:54]	ahoy	and just a bit sociopathic
[05:54]	ahoy	you never meet a corporation you could really take home to meet your parents
[05:54]	ahoy	thats what marketing is for
[05:55]	kingoffrance	lol quite funny that word persists perhaps
[05:55]	kingoffrance	i wonder when that originated
[05:55]	ahoy	which one
[05:55]	ahoy	marketing?
[05:55]	kingoffrance	yeah "marketing".   i read "medieval" "feudalism" because "gov" controlled, advertising was frowned upon. was seemed as sketchy...shady....bragging...someone who wasnt authorized 
[05:55]	ahoy	to market, to market, to buy a fat hen
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[05:56]	kingoffrance	maybe markets were somewhere between feudalism and corporations?
[05:56]	ahoy	today they would sell the hen a gym membership, use instagram filters to make its butt look bigger, and then add some ingredient (stuffing?) to make it look fat after it wasnt anymore
[05:57]	ahoy	it takes a lot of work to make a product have something for everyone
[05:57]	kingoffrance	or before feudalism perhaps
[05:57]	ahoy	but it takes genius to sell someone the problem and the solution as a package deal
[05:58]	ahoy	windows! anti-virus! tech support!
[05:58]	ahoy	those guys are geniuses
[05:59]	ahoy	when windows screws up you install anti-virus, then when av screws up you call tech support, then when they screw up you buy a new computer
[05:59]	ahoy	and when you guy a new computer they sell you windows
[05:59]	ahoy	its like the circle of life, as a star wars prequel instead of the lion king
[05:59]	kingoffrance	lol  somewhere in there is manure
[05:59]	kingoffrance	compost
[05:59]	ahoy	i already mentioned windows
[05:59]	kingoffrance	:D
● Feb 26
[06:01]	CrystalMath	kingoffrance: there are still people doing voluntary exchanges
[06:01]	CrystalMath	eliminate violence, and you get a free market
[06:01]	ahoy	another circle of life
[06:02]	kingoffrance	CrystalMath, fair, i dont deny the total idea, just so much gets handwaved
[06:02]	ahoy	can you buy violence on the free market? if so, how much does it cost to eliminate, and who is selling?
[06:02]	kingoffrance	if you dont know what the product is, you're the product ?  </s>
[06:03]	ahoy	if you can buy violence on the free market, going to all the trouble to eliminate it seems inefficient
[06:03]	CrystalMath	ahoy: that is a big problem :/
[06:03]	ahoy	it would be like going on a diet so you could fit more cake into yourself
[06:04]	CrystalMath	and how do i solve this problem?
[06:04]	CrystalMath	well it's very simple
[06:05]	CrystalMath	i sit on IRC and write crap all day, and believe that someone else will solve the problem in the future
[06:05]	ahoy	/me waves his hands
[06:05]	ahoy	i was close
[06:05]	ahoy	dont worry, you have LOTS of company
[06:06]	ahoy	people who dont know how to fix the economy constitute one of the vastest majorities on earth
[06:06]	ahoy	probably in history too
[06:15]	ahoy	hey, wait a minute!
[06:15]	ahoy	werent you for complete human extinction a year ago?
[06:15]	ahoy	of the voluntary variety of course?
[06:15]	ahoy	and now youre only for the extinction of a good portion of western civilisation?
[06:16]	ahoy	jokes aside, this is (depending who you ask) major progress
[06:16]	ahoy	at least for everyone but that portion of western civilisation
[06:16]	ahoy	but still, thats a lot
[06:16]	ahoy	literally billions
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[06:17]	ahoy	youre getting more efficient
[06:17]	ahoy	extinction of billions is VERY wasteful
[06:19]	ahoy	think about what a billion people could do
[06:20]	ahoy	like if we could calculate the most sandwiches i could possibly want to eat in a lifetime
[06:20]	ahoy	and you divide that number of sandwiches by billions
[06:20]	kingoffrance	i should that: "the spectacle"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRGCZh5A8T4
[06:20]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nRGCZh5A8T4
[06:20]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=nRGCZh5A8T4 )
[06:20]	ahoy	if everyone worked toegether to make me all the sandwiches i wanted
[06:20]	kingoffrance	Spaceballs (5/11) Movie CLIP - We're in Now Now (1987) HD
[06:21]	ahoy	then each individual would make me basically 0 sandwiches. they would all be free
[06:21]	ahoy	then just multiply that by billions, and everyone has sandwiches
[06:23]	ahoy	someone mentioned spaceballs to me last week
[06:24]	ahoy	/me tries to think of why
[06:25]	ahoy	that movie was a lot more clever than it looked
[06:25]	ahoy	it wouldnt take much
[06:26]	ahoy	kingoffrance: and that was years ahead of the matrix
[06:27]	ahoy	if i did a phd thesis now, it would be on why the matrix is actually a sequel to spaceballs
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[06:40]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dna-security-healthcare/
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[06:40]	TR Bot	 AI can detect DNA that unlocks backdoors in lab software The Register
[06:41]	AdmFubar	https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dnn-trojan-attacks/
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[06:41]	TR Bot	 AI trojan horse techniques outpace defenses, study finds The Register
[06:41]	ahoy	that title is awful to parse
[06:41]	ahoy	clickbait grammar
[06:42]	ahoy	also el reg is microsoftish now, but its still an interesting looking story
[06:42]	ahoy	i think they helped lynch stallman so i never go there
[06:45]	ahoy	i do like to go back and double-check these things sometimes
[06:46]	ahoy	im definitely not mixing up el reg with another paper, but its possible im mixing it up with a difference offense
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[06:48]	TR Bot	 IBM fails to dismiss age-discrimination case linked to CEO The Register
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[06:54]	TR Bot	Musk Suggests That Piracy is Appealing Once Again * TorrentFreak
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[06:57]	TR Bot	Jehovahs Witness Parodies Are Fair Use. Watch Tower: So What? * TorrentFreak
[06:59]	AdmFubar	https://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/notices/2022/0214-02.html
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[06:59]	TR Bot	outlines vision to offer digital infrastructure platform under new hybrid IT roadmap for connected, sustainable society : Fujitsu Global
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[07:04]	AdmFubar	https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/02/22/145235/the-us-copyright-office-says-an-ai-cant-copyright-its-art?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
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[07:04]	TR Bot	 The US Copyright Office Says an AI Can't Copyright Its Art - Slashdot
[07:05]	AdmFubar	https://science.slashdot.org/story/22/02/22/1538247/magpies-have-outwitted-scientists-by-helping-each-other-remove-tracking-devices?utm_source=rss1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed
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[07:05]	TR Bot	 Magpies Have Outwitted Scientists by Helping Each Other Remove Tracking Devices - Slashdot
[07:05]	ahoy	sweet
[07:05]	ahoy	magpies are ahead of most human society
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[07:06]	ahoy	both like shiny things, but magpies wont pay $1000 for a phone
[07:07]	AdmFubar	https://www.linuxtoday.com/news/oh-snap-security-holes-found-in-linux-packaging-system/
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[07:07]	TR Bot	 Oh snap! Security Holes Found in Linux Packaging System | Linux Today
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[07:10]	AdmFubar	https://hackaday.com/2022/02/25/surgically-implanted-bluetooth-devices-dont-help-would-be-exam-cheats/
[07:10]	TR Bot	Implanted Bluetooth Devices Dont Help Would-Be Exam Cheats | Hackaday
[07:10]	AdmFubar	next they will be sticking fish in their ears
[07:12]	ahoy	if aliens have anything on our technology, the future of telecom isnt surgical implants, its suppositories
[07:12]	ahoy	which also means a change in branding
[07:13]	ahoy	the iphone will become the aphone
[07:14]	ahoy	itll be worse if they stick them in their ears
[07:15]	ahoy	then youll be able to use the phone, but if you want to hear whats going on in the same room youll have to buy a dongle
[07:15]	AdmFubar	this town needs an enema!
[07:15]	ahoy	where did steve jobs get those wonderful toys?
[07:15]	AdmFubar	https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2022/02/24/new-report-released-on-deletion-of-millions-of-dallas-police-files/
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[07:15]	TR Bot	 Dallas IT worker erased police files by accident, didnt have enough training, report says
[07:15]	ahoy	oh! steve jobs was really bruce wayne
[07:16]	ahoy	which means jony ive was robin
[07:17]	AdmFubar	https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/trickbot-malware-operation-shuts-down-devs-move-to-bazarbackdoor/
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[07:17]	TR Bot	 TrickBot malware operation shuts down, devs move to stealthier malware
[07:17]	ahoy	and steve wozniak was alfred, i guess
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[08:02]	TR Bot	 Finance industry will be first to get to grips with GPT-3 The Register
[08:02]	TR News	No, you need to #deleteFacebook completely if you value #privacy https://www.maketecheasier.com/facebook-restricted-list/
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[08:25]	TR Bot	Failures, Computer Problems, And Ohms Law: Understanding The Northeast Blackout Of 2003 | Hackaday
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[08:52]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[09:01]	TR News	#India surpasses a billion active mobile subscriptions - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/india_mobile_and_pc_markets/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
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[09:01]	TR Bot	 India surpasses a billion active mobile subscriptions The Register
[09:02]	TR News	#linuxfoundation : our spokespeople make fun of old people (comparing them to dinosaurs) http://techrights.org/2022/02/16/only-the-privileged/
[09:02]	TR Bot	 When Only Rich and Powerful Corporations Can Use Slurs and Hurt Marginalised/Vulnerable People | Techrights
[09:04]	TR News	#linuxfoundation is a vicious, intolerant, deeply corrupt organisation that #linux the #kernel neither needs nor benefits from http://techrights.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation
[09:04]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation - Techrights
[09:05]	TR News	You too would be stressed if you were pushing a #SCAM https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/02/25772553/dogecoin-core-developer-ross-nicoll-leaves-project-citing-stress #dogecoin #fakecoin #fakemoney
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[09:05]	TR Bot	Core Developer Ross Nicoll Leaves Project Citing Stress - Dogecoin - United States Dollar ($DOGE) | Benzinga
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[09:07]	TR News	Chickenhawk Putler wants Kiev. Did nukes help prevent war? No, they did not.
[09:09]	TR News	According to companies and politicians who profit from nukes, the nukes are "for peace". According to oligarchs, tax evasion by the rich ("legalised" by them) is "creating jobs"...
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[09:18]	TR News	No, #nytimes , there is no "Returning to Normal" when the economy is collapsed and you're over 30 trillion dollars in debt with very low labour participation rates and massive inflation https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/upshot/paid-leave-covid-democrats.html
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[09:18]	TR Bot	 A Key to Returning to Normal Is Paid Sick Leave, Democrats Say - The New York Times
[09:20]	TR News	#AllAfrica does not tell you that for years it has been bribed by #famousCriminal #billgates ... and now it defends the criminal that is bankrolling it https://allafrica.com/stories/202202250377.html see https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php
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[09:20]	TR Bot	No, Bill Gates Hasn't Called for Withdrawal of Covid Vaccines - False UK Story Republished On Nigerian Blog - allAfrica.com
[09:20]	TR Bot	 Journalisms Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review
[09:22]	TR News	#billgates -bribed media is shooting at straw men to promote the lie that Gates critics are generally all cranks. It's the same methods #5g #patent #cartel loves to use
[09:22]	TR News	8,000 potential gravesites identified at East End Cemetery using drone and hydrology mapping software | Richmond Free Press https://richmondfreepress.com/news/2022/feb/24/8000-potential-gravesites-identified-east-end-ceme/ #richmondfreepress
[09:22]	TR Bot	 8,000 potential gravesites identified at East End Cemetery using drone and hydrology mapping software | Richmond Free Press | Serving the African American Community in Richmond, VA
[09:29]	TR News	 NEWS #MakeUseOf #gnu #linux 7 Areas Where Linux Is Easier Than Windows https://www.makeuseof.com/areas-linux-is-easier-than-windows/
[09:29]	TR Bot	 7 Areas Where Linux Is Easier Than Windows
[09:30]	TR News	 NEWS #EPR #EU adopts electronic product information standard for medicines https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalreview.com/news/168810/eu-adopts-electronic-product-information-standard-for-medicines/
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[09:30]	TR Bot	 EU adopts electronic product information standard for medicines
[09:32]	TR News	 NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware Chipmaker Nvidia investigates potential cyberattack https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/chipmaker-nvidia-investigates-potential-cyberattack/89841007 http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
[09:32]	TR Bot	 Chipmaker Nvidia investigates potential cyberattack, CIO News, ET CIO
[09:32]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: Still a National Security Threat | Techrights
[09:32]	TR News	#Microsoft #Windows TCO: #ComputerWorld # Windows is in Moscows crosshairs, too https://www.computerworld.com/article/3651490/windows-is-in-moscow-s-crosshairs-too.html http://techrights.org/2021/10/29/microsoft-national-security-threat/
[09:32]	TR Bot	is in Moscows crosshairs, too | Computerworld
[09:35]	TR News	 NEWS #TheVerge #Privacy #Surveillance #UK politician who tweeted threat to nail journalists balls to the floor pushes user IDs to curb online abuse https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/25/22950506/uk-online-safety-verify-user-id-social-media-nadine-dorries-nail-balls-floor
[09:35]	TR Bot	 UK politician who tweeted threat to nail journalists balls to the floor pushes user IDs to curb online abuse - The Verge
[09:35]	TR News	 NEWS #FSF #Privacy #Surveillance Publication of the FSF-funded white papers on questions around Copilot https://www.fsf.org/news/publication-of-the-fsf-funded-white-papers-on-questions-around-copilot http://techrights.org/2021/11/29/balabhadra-alex-graveley-and-tomboy/
[09:35]	TR Bot	 Publication of the FSF-funded white papers on questions around Copilot Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[09:35]	TR Bot	 Microsoft GitHub Expos Part VIII Mr. Graveleys Long Career Serving Microsofts Agenda (Before Hiring by Microsoft to Work on GitHubs GPL Violations Machine) | Techrights
[09:36]	TR News	 NEWS #CopenhagenPost #Privacy #Surveillance Man admits to illegally accessing intimate content of 500 women, but denies in absentia rape charges https://cphpost.dk/?p=131617
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Man admits to illegally accessing intimate content of 500 women, but denies 'in absentia' rape charges - The Post
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[09:45]	TR News	 NEWS #FOSSForce #redhat AlmaLinux Can Now Drive Power Processors https://fossforce.com/2022/02/almalinux-can-now-drive-power-processors/
[09:45]	TR Bot	 AlmaLinux Can Now Drive Power Processors - FOSS Force
[09:46]	TR News	 NEWS #Vice #Finance #Ukraine Wants to Ban #Russia From SWIFT. WTF Is SWIFT? https://www.vice.com/en/article/88gkq5/ukraine-wants-to-ban-russia-from-swift-wtf-is-swift
[09:46]	TR Bot	 Ukraine Wants to Ban Russia From SWIFT. WTF Is SWIFT?
[09:48]	TR News	 NEWS #TheEconomist #Politics Why the West is reluctant to deny #Russian banks access to SWIFT https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/02/25/why-the-west-is-reluctant-to-deny-russian-banks-access-to-swift
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[09:48]	TR Bot	the West is reluctant to deny Russian banks access to SWIFT | The Economist
[09:49]	TR News	 NEWS #OICanadian #Politics #Russia restricts access to Facebook and accuses it of #censorship in full invasion of Ukraine https://oicanadian.com/russia-restricts-access-to-facebook-and-accuses-it-of-censorship-in-full-invasion-of-ukraine/
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[09:49]	TR Bot	 Russia restricts access to Facebook and accuses it of censorship in full invasion of Ukraine - OI Canadian
[09:49]	TR News	 NEWS #EsselGroup #Politics For 'censoring' domestic media, Russian government partially limits access to #Facebook https://www.wionews.com/world/for-censoring-domestic-media-russian-government-partially-limits-access-to-facebook-456624
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[09:49]	TR Bot	'censoring' domestic media, Russian government partially limits access to Facebook, World News | wionews.com
[09:52]	TR News	 NEWS #Newsweek #Censorship Trump's Recently Launched TRUTH Social Under Fire for 'Censoring' Members https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-recently-launched-truth-social-under-fire-censoring-members-1682922
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[09:52]	TR Bot	 Trump's Recently Launched TRUTH Social Under Fire for 'Censoring' Members
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[09:58]	TR News	 NEWS #EFF #Stalkerware EFF Urges #FTC to Investigate Stalkerware App Network Subject of TechCrunch Report https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/02/eff-urges-ftc-investigate-stalkerware-app-network-subject-techcrunch-report
[09:58]	TR Bot	 EFF Urges FTC to Investigate Stalkerware App Network Subject of TechCrunch Report | Electronic Frontier Foundation
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[10:07]	XRevan86	Hah, inosmi.ru is one of the media RKN threatens to block.
[10:08]	XRevan86	It's a website owned by RT that specialises in translating articles from other languages to Russian.
[10:08]	XRevan86	They follow the "s/war/operation/" rule, but still got the warning.
[10:09]	XRevan86	* "s/war/operation/g"
[10:10]	schestowitz-TR	ukraine tech video
[10:10]	schestowitz-TR	recording in a minute
[10:36]	psydroid2	https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-milan-x-cpu-preorders-start-4300-dollars
[10:36]	TR Bot	 AMD EPYC Milan-X CPU Pre-Orders Start at $4,300 | Tom's Hardware
[10:36]	psydroid2	more expensive AMD processors for Moronix readers
[10:39]	schestowitz	lol, would rather buy a car
[10:41]	TR News	#Dymo printers are putting #DRM in the paper: WTF! https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/dymo-printers-are-putting-drm-in-the:a #rossmanngroup
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[10:41]	TR Bot	 Dymo printers are putting DRM in the paper: WTF!
[10:55]	leah	i have been summoned
[10:56]	leah	i will read the morning news first
[10:56]	leah	my coffee+news morning schedule must be respected
[10:58]	leah	looks like kyiv is pretty much screwed and putin has achieved step 1 in rebuilding the russian empire. sad day
[10:59]	XRevan86	leah: Kiev has not been taken.
● Feb 26
[11:00]	leah	ukraine also has a new tank man now
[11:00]	leah	there's a video of a guy standing in front of tanks. like china's tank man
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[11:05]	TR News	#idg is corrupt; another sponsored' 'article' https://www.cio.com/article/305541/can-security-really-be-open-source.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/IDG
[11:05]	TR Bot	Security Really Be Open Source? | CIO
[11:05]	TR Bot	 IDG - Techrights
[11:06]	leah	does anyone have a source for things ahoy said earlier about fsf?
[11:06]	leah	or was that mainly hyperbole
[11:06]	XRevan86	2490 people were detained in Russia since February 24th on anti-war demonstrations.
[11:07]	XRevan86	RKN is at ~war~ operation with Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.
[11:08]	XRevan86	Telegram is also experiencing problems, but it seems they're just under heavy load because of everyone talking about all the peacekeeping, rainbows and flowers and such.
[11:09]		*leah unsummoned
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[11:10]	XRevan86	leah: "peacekeeping, rainbows and flowers" <- For the record, that was sarcasm.
[11:11]	activelow	tchernobyl, officially ukraine de-militarized after soviet union collapsed
[11:11]	XRevan86	leah: If that was the reason for the unsummoning.
[11:11]	leah	i have been summoned again
[11:12]	leah	XRevan86: no, i just have work to do and did not find the rest of the backlog interesting
[11:12]	leah	i saw gossip about fsf earlier so i tuned in
[11:12]	activelow	if russian military finds anything, they got an explanation to smash heavily
[11:12]	leah	you did not offend me. i take what people say with a pinch of salt and a layer of thick skulls
[11:13]	leah	even if you were to say something truly offensive, this isn't my channel and i must respect the authority that exists here
[11:13]	leah	regarding ukraine
[11:13]	XRevan86	leah: Ah. There was so much backlog I can't even remember what was there about the FSF.
[11:14]	leah	ukraine is fucked. i've decided to ignore the news about it and just assume putin will win
[11:14]	leah	also, a prediction:
[11:14]	leah	russia will not be affected at all by sanctions, but the EU will greatly de-stabilize as a result of cutting off access to russian oil
[11:14]	leah	especially if russia is cut off from swift
[11:14]	XRevan86	leah: It's already affected.
[11:14]	leah	and especially in the east of the EU
[11:15]	leah	i'm of the assumption that the EU will split in two
[11:15]	activelow	including NATO members, who are supplied, 90% from russia
[11:15]	leah	the poorer countries to the east will likely ditch the EU and align with russia, for some sense of prosperity
[11:15]	leah	because those countries rely heavily on trade with russia, and in particular, russian oil
[11:15]	leah	nato, us and eu's defiance of russia in recent years was the result of them believing russia was bluffing in its aggressions
[11:15]	leah	now they know russia is serious
[11:16]	XRevan86	leah: Russia could've had friends like that, but the problem is that a rare country wants to have friends like Russia.
[11:16]	leah	in spite of their heroic rhetoric, i believe they will cave
[11:16]	leah	you don't fuck with russia, afterall
[11:16]	leah	i predict a new cold war, of sorts
[11:16]	activelow	Russia too supplies USA with Oil/Gas
[11:16]	leah	the EU will shrink, with power and influence refocusing in the west, and the east will be abandoned
[11:17]	XRevan86	leah: What about, say, Poland?
[11:17]	leah	poland is next
[11:17]	leah	i believe putin will invade poland
[11:17]	XRevan86	They ditched Russian raw materials.
[11:17]	leah	after pressuring it to leave the EU
[11:17]	leah	poland and hungary in particular already have strained relations with the EU
[11:17]	leah	i think they will leave the EU and buddy up with russia
[11:18]	XRevan86	Czechia is advocating for exile of Russia from SWIFT.
[11:18]	leah	and at first, things will be calm
[11:18]	leah	they will later be invaded and occupied by russia
[11:18]	XRevan86	They had good relations before. Not anymore.
[11:18]	leah	of course, there's another possibility:
[11:18]	leah	i don't think the population of russia largely supports this war
[11:19]	leah	for many years, there has been little opposition to putin because he didn't cross the line, so to speak
[11:19]	leah	but that will change
[11:19]	leah	it's possible that he will be ousted from power in the next 5-10 years
[11:19]	XRevan86	leah: "i don't think the population of russia largely supports this war" <- I can agree with that assessment.
[11:20]	DaemonFC	The Russians tried to land 60 paratroopers near Lviv, and they were all killed.
[11:20]	DaemonFC	Good.
[11:20]	TR News	"the theme is licensed under the GPL, so its assets are freely available." https://wptavern.com/recreating-onia-building-brushstroke-backgrounds-with-wordpress-blocks
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[11:20]	TR Bot	 Recreating Onia: Building Brushstroke Backgrounds With WordPress Blocks WP Tavern
[11:20]	DaemonFC	But it kind of says the Russians don't have very good commanding officers, or just don't care how many of their soldiers die.
[11:20]	DaemonFC	I mean, who tries to invade a city with 60 paratroopers?
[11:20]	XRevan86	leah: But even preying on Ukraine is already a huge risk. Ye're overestimating Russia's strength.
[11:21]	leah	picture it for a moment
[11:21]	leah	picture a massive opposition within russia over the next few years
[11:21]	leah	and imagine what happens when the putin regime falls
[11:21]	DaemonFC	Ukraine is asking the Red Cross to remove the bodies of about 3,500 dead Russians.
[11:21]	leah	i see great things in the future
[11:21]	DaemonFC	This is not going as well as Putin had hoped.
[11:21]	leah	putin was a soldier stationed in east germany during the ussr years
[11:21]	DaemonFC	Now Putin is drunk on state TV. He's not even hiding it.
[11:22]	DaemonFC	He drinks on TV while he's making speeches.
[11:22]	XRevan86	leah: My point is that the idea that the east of the EU will align Russia one way or another is unrealistic.
[11:22]	leah	but thinks have changed
[11:22]	leah	things*
[11:22]	leah	he's the last bastion of that old war mindset
[11:22]	XRevan86	Maybe Hungary would.
[11:23]	XRevan86	But that's it.
[11:23]	leah	DaemonFC: lol really?
[11:23]	XRevan86	But even then Orban probably likes the position he's in rather than strongly taking a side.
[11:23]	DaemonFC	<leah> DaemonFC: lol really?
[11:23]	leah	regarding his drinking on state tv
[11:24]	DaemonFC	Yes, he was drunk on TV a couple days ago ranting about how Bill Clinton brushed him off more than 20 years ago when he asked about Russia being allowed in NATO.
[11:24]	DaemonFC	Among a list of other grievances.
[11:25]	XRevan86	He didn't strike me as drunk.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	Maybe Putin was wanting into NATO to try to corrupt it and make it incapable of doing anything about them, like the UN.
[11:25]	DaemonFC	The UN should throw Russia out and expel the ambassador and change the charter to remove them from the Security Council should they be allowed back someday.
[11:26]	activelow	the missing piece could be, given the risks, former soviet union weapons stockpiles
[11:26]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Why do ye think he was drunk?
[11:26]	DaemonFC	The Atlantic described him as pouring shot after shot directly out of the bottle.
[11:27]	activelow	officially, Ukraine dismantled everything
[11:27]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Any source? I didn't see any of that.
[11:27]	leah	russia's presence in the UN dates back to USSR years
[11:27]	leah	the soviet union was a member of the UN during those years
[11:28]	leah	i guess they just did mv ussr russian-federation when the wall fell
[11:28]	XRevan86	Right, Russia inherited the right to veto from USSR.
[11:28]	DaemonFC	Yeah, and Putin keeps saying he's withdrawing from treaties because the Soviet Union signed them and Russia isn't the Soviet Union.
[11:28]	DaemonFC	So they could also say if Russia admits it isn't the Soviet successor state, then it loses its seat on the Security Council. 
[11:28]	leah	a lot of the infrastructure and ways of doing things were maintained from those years though
[11:29]	activelow	it was USA who withdrew from some nuclear arms weapons dismantling agreement some weeks ago
[11:29]	activelow	and, it was NATO who didn't keep their promise, to not expand beyond former east-germany
[11:30]	DaemonFC	The US didn't say it was withdrawing from certain treaties because it had negotiated them with the USSR. It said that it was withdrawing per the terms in the treaty for withdrawing from the treaty, and because Russia was violating the treaties anyway.
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[11:30]	leah	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#KGB_career
[11:30]	TR Bot	 Vladimir Putin - Wikipedia
[11:30]	XRevan86	activelow: There was no such agreement made.
[11:30]	leah	read this. it's quite interesting
[11:30]	TR News	#Dymo Causes a Stir by Adding #DRM to Printer Paper - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/02/25/044254 #soylentnews
[11:30]	TR Bot	 Dymo Causes a Stir by Adding DRM to Printer Paper - SoylentNews
[11:31]	activelow	XRevan86: wrong.
[11:32]	XRevan86	activelow: Show me a piece of paper with this promise and a signature.
[11:34]	DaemonFC	The French Navy seized a Russian cargo ship and forced it into port.
[11:34]	leah	now go look at videos of him singing the russian national anthem ;)
[11:34]	DaemonFC	Apparently, it was full of cars.
[11:34]	leah	i suspect vladi boy wants old ussr to come back
[11:35]	DaemonFC	They should dismantle the ship for scrap and donate the value to Ukraine's defense.
[11:35]	leah	anyway
[11:35]		*leah unsummoned
[11:35]		*XRevan86 decided to watch https://youtu.be/0zZsGgpMKQQ instead.
[11:35]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=0zZsGgpMKQQ
[11:35]	leah	you've reached the limit of your 30 day trial
[11:35]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | 'Blueberry Hill' - Invidious
[11:35]	leah	every new summoning will cost $0.02
[11:36]	XRevan86	leah: Even for Putin singing?
[11:36]	activelow	XRevan86: https://www.anti-spiegel.ru/2022/der-spiegel-stellt-sich-dumm-neuer-aktenfund-von-1991-stuetzt-russischen-vorwurf/
[11:36]	TR Bot	 Der Spiegel stellt sich dumm: "Neuer Aktenfund von 1991 sttzt russischen Vorwurf" | Anti-Spiegel
[11:36]	XRevan86	activelow: https://meduza.io/feature/2022/02/25/odin-iz-argumentov-dlya-vtorzheniya-v-ukrainu-yakoby-dannoe-zapadom-obeschanie-ne-rasshiryat-nato-na-vostok-i-dazhe-nashlis-novye-dokumenty-kotorye-eto-podtverzhdayut
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[11:36]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[11:38]	leah	well, i'm coded by the same people who coded winrar so...
[11:38]	DaemonFC	Stallman continues to defend the Russians by claiming that sanctions against them are useless.
[11:39]	XRevan86	leah: What about https://youtu.be/S6Ksc7R6jhc ?
[11:39]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=S6Ksc7R6jhc
[11:39]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | - Invidious
[11:39]	DaemonFC	Apparently, he doesn't seem to have any strong feelings about their war crimes and terrorist activities.
[11:39]	DaemonFC	Perhaps he'll go on their State TV again and promote the Russian Green Party.
[11:39]	DaemonFC	The Russian Green Party in the United States, that is.
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[11:39]	TR Bot	 CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
[11:40]	XRevan86	(Medvedev commented on Russia being expelled from the Council of Europe with a "Good.", because now Russia can return executions)
[11:40]	DaemonFC	Putin took Jill Stein out to dinner because he was simply fascinated to hear what a woman who got 0.2% of the presidential vote and wasn't even on the ballot in 12 states thought about foreign policy. :)
[11:40]	DaemonFC	And Green Party lawyers were funded by Russia and the Republican Party because those outfits really want progressive politics in America.
[11:41]	DaemonFC	Stallman isn't just a jerk, he's a moron on politics, and an authoritarian on the issues around COVID.
[11:41]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: Divide and conquer.
[11:42]	DaemonFC	The Green Party should be banned under the Communist Control Act.
[11:42]	DaemonFC	It specifically says "a communist party", but the Greens pretty much admit that they want Communism.
[11:42]	DaemonFC	So how do they get on the ballot?
[11:43]	XRevan86	leah: Did ye ever hear the Tragedy of the Russian Anthem? It's not a story the United Russia would tell you.
[11:44]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161875 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[11:44]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[11:46]	leah	XRevan86: i didn't
[11:46]	leah	but i've heard the modern one
[11:46]	leah	it sounds almost the same as the old one
[11:46]	leah	i don't speak russian, but i assume they changed a few words
[11:47]	schestowitz	MinceR:  https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/26/i-am-fleeing-ukraine-and-heading-to-hungary-what-do-i-need-to-know   https://telex.hu/english/2022/02/25/hungary-to-allow-entry-for-everyone-coming-from-ukraine
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[11:47]	TR Bot	 Telex: I am fleeing Ukraine and heading to Hungary. What do I need to know?
[11:47]	TR Bot	 Telex: Hungary to allow entry for everyone coming from Ukraine
[11:47]	leah	for example, the one anthem refers to Stalin as "our leader"
[11:47]	leah	i'm assuming they changed that in the modern anthem :P
[11:47]	leah	(there's an english translation of the old one)
[11:47]	XRevan86	> Glinka's anthem was replaced soon after Yeltsin's successor, Vladimir Putin, first took office on 7 May 2000. The federal legislature established and approved the music of the National Anthem of the Soviet Union, with newly written lyrics, in December 2000, and it became the second anthem used by Russia after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
[11:48]	leah	ok
[11:48]	schestowitz	MinceR: more competition?
[11:48]	XRevan86	Sergey Mikhalkov composed with help of his son Nikita.
[11:48]	leah	if you study the history of that time, it's pretty amazing how non-violent the fall of ussr was
[11:48]	XRevan86	the lyrics that is
[11:48]	leah	most government collapses, of smaller countries, are violent
[11:48]	leah	and the result of a bloody revolution
[11:48]	leah	fall of ussr was pretty chill comparatively
[11:48]	XRevan86	leah: Well, relatively speaking.
[11:49]	leah	they had a recession for a few years but that was it
[11:49]	XRevan86	leah: One could consider the Chechen wars as part of the dissolution event.
[11:49]	leah	well, sure
[11:50]	leah	the crucial aspect of that was their leader at the time, allowed it all to happen
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[11:50]	leah	thats why the 1991 coup happened. but it failed
[11:50]	leah	they tried it too late
[11:50]	leah	soon after, the communist party was disbanded and a few months later... new russian flag!
[11:50]	TR News	 NEWS #Techdirt #Internet Why It Makes No Sense To Call Websites 'Common Carriers' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220219/17570048504/why-it-makes-no-sense-to-call-websites-common-carriers.shtml
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[11:50]	TR Bot	It Makes No Sense To Call Websites 'Common Carriers' | Techdirt
[11:50]	XRevan86	And the recent Azerbaijan/Armenia conflict is also an echo from the dissolution.
[11:51]	leah	you can see videos of the event from back then
[11:51]	XRevan86	leah: Gorbachev tried to pull a Lenin and failed.
[11:51]	leah	tanks rolled in to moscow but yeltsin said "no!" and that was that
[11:52]	XRevan86	The idea was that the union should be reformed with all willing participants.
[11:52]	leah	yeah "glasnost"
[11:52]	leah	but i think the only reason he failed was because of the 1986 chernobyl accident
[11:52]	leah	in the aftermath of that event, soviet authorities tried to cover it up
[11:52]	XRevan86	No, the SSG.
[11:52]	leah	and the people saw that things hadn't changed
[11:53]	leah	so they got fed up and "communism" lost its appeal to the masses
[11:53]	leah	which is to say:
[11:53]	leah	the soviet union fell in 1986
[11:53]	leah	1991 was just an acknowledgement of that fact
[11:53]	XRevan86	Anyway, the coup pretty much buried SSG.
[11:53]	leah	a movement is only as strong as its number of followers
[11:53]	XRevan86	They wanted to prevent it and keep USSR, and they succeeded 50%.
[11:54]	leah	what is the ssg?
[11:54]	XRevan86	The Union of Sovereign States
[11:54]	leah	ok
[11:54]	XRevan86	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Union_Treaty
[11:54]	TR Bot	 New Union Treaty - Wikipedia
[11:54]	DaemonFC	https://chicago.suntimes.com/metro-state/2022/2/25/22950779/opioid-settlement-johnson-johnson-drug-distributors-illinois-kwame-raoul
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[11:54]	TR Bot	 Illinois gets $760M as part of opioid settlement with Johnson & Johnson, 3 drug distribution companies - Chicago Sun-Times
[11:55]	DaemonFC	"Checks could be cut as soon as April, but none of the money will go directly to opioid victims or their families."
[11:55]	DaemonFC	Of course not. Why would the money go to the victims of the crime?
[11:55]	leah	XRevan86: so, you think the ussr would have stayed intact, if the ssg were signed and the coup never happened?
[11:55]	DaemonFC	When Big Daddy Government knows how to squander it all.
[11:55]	leah	if true, that would be historically extremely ironic
[11:55]	leah	given the aim of the coup back then
[11:56]	XRevan86	leah: Don't know, but it was Gorbachev's project, and the coup displaced him exactly because of it.
[11:56]	leah	they could have got like 30% of what they wanted. but they couped, then failed and got nothing
[11:56]	DaemonFC	https://www.kcci.com/article/iowa-flat-tax-how-iowas-new-flat-tax-works/39230665
[11:56]	TR Bot	 Iowa's new flat tax: how it works
[11:56]	XRevan86	leah: Pretty much.
[11:56]	DaemonFC	Iowa passes a flat income tax where most of the savings go to the state's richest residents.
[11:56]	XRevan86	leah: The coup also helped Yeltsin establish himself.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	It's already one of the worst states to own real property due to the property tax rates (that one is worse than Illinois).
[11:57]	leah	yeah
[11:57]	XRevan86	leah: And Yeltsin was instrumental to the dissolution of USSR.
[11:57]	TR News	 NEWS #Techdirt #DRM New #RightToRepair Bill Targets Obnoxious Auto Industry Behavior https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220222/07245148520/new-right-to-repair-bill-targets-obnoxious-auto-industry-behavior.shtml
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[11:57]	TR Bot	Right To Repair Bill Targets Obnoxious Auto Industry Behavior | Techdirt
[11:57]	leah	so you had 3 factions in play:
[11:57]	leah	* kgb hardliners
[11:57]	leah	* ssg
[11:57]	DaemonFC	Putin's revisionist history says that the US has always sanctioned the Russian economy to keep it from growing.
[11:57]	leah	* yeltsin
[11:57]	XRevan86	leah: Pretty much.
[11:58]	DaemonFC	I suppose that from 1991 to 2014, having no sanctions at all means we were always sanctioning them.
[11:58]	DaemonFC	And just started in 2014 for no particular reason.
[11:58]	DaemonFC	It's up there with scientists walking out of a 15th floor window for the hell of it.
[11:59]	DaemonFC	He either thinks people (including the Russian public) are stupid enough to believe everything he says, or he just doesn't care what they think.
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[12:00]	XRevan86	leah: To elaborate on "to pull a Lenin", Lenin wanted a confederation-like union united with a common goal (Communism). When Stalin formed USSR he pretty much only kept this idea in the name (the Union).
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[12:00]	TR Bot	Out It Was Actually The Missouri Governor's Office Who Was Responsible For The Security Vulnerability Exposing Teacher Data | Techdirt
[12:01]	XRevan86	leah: So the new treaty can be considered as de-Stalinisation in the roots of the USSR.
[12:01]	leah	yeah
[12:03]	TR News	These things are risky. Let's see how that works out for @mmasnick @glynmoody and the team. #joindiaspora does something similar next Friday. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220224/16315648534/important-announcement-techdirt-is-migrating-to-new-platform.shtml
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[12:05]	XRevan86	But Gorbachev's projects had a tendency to fail, so I'm avoiding saying that it would've succeeded if not for the coup.
[12:06]	TR News	 NEWS #PIA #Privacy #Clearview AI Offers to Eliminate Public Anonymity and Destroy Privacy around the World for a Mere $50 Million https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/clearview-ai-offers-to-eliminate-public-anonymity-and-destroy-privacy-around-the-world-for-a-mere-50-million/
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[12:06]	TR Bot	 Clearview AI Offers to Eliminate Public Anonymity and Destroy Privacy around the World for a Mere $50 Million
[12:07]	DaemonFC	https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-invasion-russian-mobile-crematorium
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[12:07]	TR Bot	 Ukraine invasion: Russian forces have mobile crematorium that can 'evaporate' soldiers killed in attacks | Fox News
[12:07]	DaemonFC	Russia has a mobile crematorium to incinerate their soldiers who have been killed so that Putin can lie about the figures later.
[12:08]	TR News	RoboForm Password Manager https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/interview-with-simon-davis-roboform-password-manager/
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[12:08]	TR Bot	 Interview With Simon Davis RoboForm Password Manager
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[12:11]	TR News	There's a lot to be seen and to be said about what goes on in #Ukraine from a purely technological perspective; at times of war nations are, in general, vastly better off with Free software, not licensed proprietary software from some other nation Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tech
[12:11]	TR Bot	 CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
[12:11]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: holy
[12:11]	XRevan86	DaemonFC: I'm trying to figure out The Telegraph's source of information
[12:12]	XRevan86	They say "the MoD", but who the heck is that?
[12:13]	XRevan86	Ah, the Ministry of Defence :D
[12:16]	XRevan86	https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/d/db/Meatwagon.gif/revision/latest classified footage of it in action
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[12:32]	DaemonFC	Ukraine helped them incinerate some bodies.
[12:32]	DaemonFC	They shot down a Russian plane full of paratroopers yesterday. It had capacity for over 120.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Russia has been acting like the Nazis in many ways. But one is they've been dressing their soldiers in Ukrainian military uniforms.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Hitler authorized an operation like this.
[12:34]	DaemonFC	He had a bunch of German soldiers dress up in captured British and American uniforms.
[12:35]	DaemonFC	Doing this is banned under the Geneva Conventions and soldiers caught dressed in enemy uniforms have no rights as prisoners of war.
[12:35]	DaemonFC	They can be shot as spies.
[12:39]	DaemonFC	The sanctions seem to be hurting the Russian economy pretty badly.
[12:39]	DaemonFC	I read their stock market is down about 35%?
[12:40]	DaemonFC	Ours dropped a little, briefly, and then came right back up, and oil went back down about $10 a barrel.
[12:47]	DaemonFC	https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/stand-ground-laws-proliferate-trayvon-spotlight-83108254
[12:47]	TR Bot	 'Stand your ground' laws proliferate after Trayvon spotlight - ABC News
[12:47]	DaemonFC	Laws like stand your ground, or shoot first laws, give people like Jordans killer, my sons killer, the idea that you can shoot first and ask questions later, said Rep. Lucy McBath, who entered politics after her son Jordan Davis was slain at a Florida gas station in 2012 by a white man who was angry over the loud music the Black teenager and his friends had been playing in their car. Michael Dunn used the stand your ground
[12:47]	DaemonFC	 law in his defense, but was convicted and is serving a life sentence.
[12:47]	DaemonFC	---
[12:48]	DaemonFC	In other words, he was convicted, the defense failed, the judge didn't allow it, the jury saw right through him, and the system worked and found him guilty of murder.
[12:48]	DaemonFC	But she still complains that people even have the right to claim self-defense at all.
[12:49]	DaemonFC	This makes no sense. I was commenting on support or opposition of various Illinois laws the other day.
[12:49]	DaemonFC	One of them would amend the age of consent law to remove an affirmative defense that the alleged victim duped you into believing that they were 17.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	I said that there's no reason to deprive people of that defense because a jury should be allowed to consider it. They should be allowed to consider if it's a reasonable defense. The jury should be allowed to consider any defense you have for yourself, no matter how insane.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	If that's the one you're going with.
[12:51]	DaemonFC	And if you pick a bad hill to die on, that's on you.
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[13:12]	bnchs	so theres this NSA malware for GNU/Linux
[13:13]	bnchs	so the news (bleedingcomputer) reported on it with a FUD headline that seemed like it was a backdoor in the linux kernel
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[13:39]	activelow	bnchs: which backdoor?
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[14:04]	TR News	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #ResearchGate Wins (& Loses) Scientific Publishers' Copyright Lawsuit https://torrentfreak.com/researchgate-wins-loses-scientific-publishers-copyright-lawsuit-220225/ http://techrights.org/2013/06/07/common-core-and-researchgate/
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[14:04]	TR Bot	Wins (& Loses) Scientific Publishers' Copyright Lawsuit * TorrentFreak
[14:04]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates is Buying Out Education and Academia Using New Lobbies/Proxies Like Common Core and ResearchGate | Techrights
[14:05]	TR News	 NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Peru Teams Up With #IFPI to Fight Online Music Piracy https://torrentfreak.com/peru-teams-up-with-ifpi-to-fight-online-music-piracy-220225/
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[14:05]	TR Bot	Teams Up With IFPI to Fight Online Music Piracy * TorrentFreak
[14:05]	psydroid2	anti-Steam and anti-GNU/Linux trolls are out in full force now that you can actually order the Steam Deck
[14:05]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: as expecred
[14:05]	schestowitz-TR	so it means it does hurt windows
[14:07]	psydroid2	as it should
[14:07]	schestowitz	did you see all the scheduled "reviews"?
[14:07]	psydroid2	it should hurt windows so much that the malware product stops existing
[14:07]	schestowitz	in gulagtube?
[14:07]	schestowitz	lkined up "influencers"
[14:07]	schestowitz	lined
[14:07]	psydroid2	none of those
[14:07]	psydroid2	I am just reading comments on the Tweakers review
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[14:08]	psydroid2	those must be Microsoft employees
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[14:08]	psydroid2	no one would have as much to complain about a device that can run thousands of games at launch
[14:08]	activelow	i don't think Steam benefits GNU/Linux
[14:08]	psydroid2	Sony and Microsoft never had anything like that
[14:09]	SomeH4x0r	"at launch"? don't you have to download them separately?
[14:09]	psydroid2	of course you have to download them
[14:09]	psydroid2	so that's what you do
[14:09]	psydroid2	but they are available to run
[14:10]	SomeH4x0r	a PC or some other console can, if you provide it the medium with the games installed
[14:10]	psydroid2	I don't have a Steam Deck and I don't have any Steam games
[14:10]	SomeH4x0r	I doubt anyone "has" Steam games
[14:10]	psydroid2	a Steam Deck is another kind of PC
[14:10]	SomeH4x0r	use torrents, fuck DRM, kill devilopers
[14:10]	psydroid2	you rent/license them
[14:11]	psydroid2	well, good luck with that
[14:11]	SomeH4x0r	I doubt anyone cares about legality, they are just brainwashed
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[14:11]	SomeH4x0r	the police should gtfo the Internet
[14:13]	SomeH4x0r	on a regular PC one can also go to Steam and use the games from there
[14:13]	psydroid2	that's always possible
[14:13]	psydroid2	but I'm not going to tell people not to buy the hardware they want to buy
[14:13]	SomeH4x0r	they are brainwashed too
[14:13]	SomeH4x0r	they shouldn't buy new hardware in most cases
[14:13]	SomeH4x0r	it is all fucked up
[14:14]	SomeH4x0r	nonsense everywhere
[14:25]	bnchs	the microsoft-paid media encourages people to
[14:25]	bnchs	install windows on steam deck
[14:27]	bnchs	theres companies making up excuses or not addressing it at all (like roblox, epic games)
[14:36]	TR News	 NEWS #Techdirt #DMCA We Stand On The Precipice Of World War III, But, Sure, Let's All Talk About The DMCA And 'Standard Technical Measures' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20220223/22025448530/we-stand-precipice-world-war-iii-sure-lets-all-talk-about-dmca-standard-technical-measures.shtml
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[14:36]	TR Bot	Stand On The Precipice Of World War III, But, Sure, Let's All Talk About The DMCA And 'Standard Technical Measures' | Techdirt
[14:40]	TR News	Arm China boss happy with #Nvidia acquisition collapse - #ElReg https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/arm_china_ceo_wants_independence/ #theregister | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
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[14:40]	TR Bot	 Arm China boss happy with Nvidia acquisition collapse The Register
[14:40]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[14:44]	schestowitz	The invasion occurred at the very moment when it appeared to have attracted maximum attention to its legitimate grievances against NATO and the U.S., and when several Western European states were suing for peace. French president Emmanuel Macrons shuttle diplomacy conducted it appears, without U.S. sanction was creating momentum for a settlement that might forever (or nearly so) deny Ukraine membership in NATO
[14:44]	schestowitz	https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/02/25/over-your-dead-body/
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[14:44]	TR Bot	Your Dead Body - CounterPunch.org
[14:44]	schestowitz	USA never looked so weak..
[14:45]	schestowitz	bnchs: sooner or later epic too will surrender
[14:45]	schestowitz	they already port to android
[14:45]	schestowitz	which runs on top of Linux
[14:45]	schestowitz	it's just a game of numbers
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[14:45]	MinceR	26 063641 < CrystalMath> but so, if good is unknowable, then i want the taliban to exist, since maybe they're good, who knows
[14:46]	MinceR	they're obviously evil
[14:46]	MinceR	they took the most evil religion on the planet and took it to 11
[14:46]	MinceR	s/took it/dialed it up/
[14:47]	schestowitz	didn't KSA do that?
[14:47]	schestowitz	iirc, KSA regime is even more strict than Taliban
[14:47]	schestowitz	on a number of things
[14:47]	schestowitz	unless you are a tourist
[14:47]	schestowitz	then they want your money
[14:52]	activelow	the perpetrators were foreign exchange students, residing in Hamburg/Germany
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[14:55]	activelow	anyway, finished implementing a 256bit loopdev transformation; with 32bit datatypes, and BE/LE-conversion in place too
[14:56]	activelow	it's ~100LoC inside kernel; plus a tiny userspace tool to setup things
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[14:56]	TR News	Haiku Activity & Contract Report: January 2022 https://www.haiku-os.org/blog/waddlesplash/2022-02-05_haiku_activity_contract_report_january_2022/
[14:56]	TR Bot	 Haiku Activity & Contract Report: January 2022 | Haiku Project
[14:57]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161876 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:57]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:57]	TR News	Review: Slimbook Executive Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161877 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[14:57]	TR Bot	 Review: Slimbook Executive | Tux Machines
● Feb 26
[15:00]	activelow	optimized this for speed slightly, to loop byte 0..511 once only per sector, to expand 32byte block-key seeded/hased with the 32bit sectorid to 512byte and XORed bytewise... it's save
[15:01]	TR News	Adding buzzwords to #hardware https://www.realwire.com/releases/Codasips-latest-RISC-V-embedded-cores-enable-AIML-edge-customization
[15:01]	TR Bot	 Codasips latest RISC-V embedded cores enable AI/ML edge customization
[15:02]	XRevan86	Looks like disconnect of Russia from SWIFT is a decided thing.
[15:03]	TR News	#BetaNews has been posting loads of #webspam lately. SPAM disguised as "articles"... that site won't last or won't survive the next few years. They try to "cash in" on what's left...
[15:04]	TR News	Misleading #Microsoft #propaganda from #MSPoweruser ... Microsoft requires A LOT MORE than a Net connection https://mspoweruser.com/windows-11-pro-will-require-internet-connection/
[15:04]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: mspoweruser.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://mspoweruser.com/windows-11-pro-will-require-internet-connection/
[15:04]	TR Bot	11 Pro installation will soon require an internet connection - MSPoweruser
[15:05]	TR News	Why the US Is Using Semiconductors to Curtail Russia's Ukraine Invasion https://gizmodo.com/us-russia-ukraine-invasion-semiconductors-sanctions-1848591007 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
[15:05]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gizmodo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gizmodo.com/us-russia-ukraine-invasion-semiconductors-sanctions-1848591007
[15:05]	TR Bot	 Why the US Is Using Semiconductors to Curtail Russia's Ukraine Invasion
[15:05]	TR Bot	 CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
[15:06]	activelow	on top of such a loopdev, i'll place nilfs2, which i had written fsck for, valseg utility to verify segment CRC32
[15:06]	TR News	3 Approaches to Leveraging Open Source in the Cloud https://www.itprotoday.com/performance-management/3-ways-leverage-open-source-cloud #itprotoday should know there's no such thing as "the clown"... they could just say "server"
[15:06]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: itprotoday.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itprotoday.com/performance-management/3-ways-leverage-open-source-cloud
[15:06]	TR Bot	 3 Approaches to Leveraging Open Source in the Cloud | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More
[15:06]	activelow	it's better than device-mapper integrity
[15:07]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: no more donations from Russia *sobs*
[15:07]	schestowitz-TR	(sarcasm)
[15:08]	activelow	disadvantage: loopdev is slower than device-mapper/lvm, even without crypto applied, it's some other kernel-internal issue somewhere
[15:08]	activelow	however, i am using this on some ultra-low power ARM SBC
[15:09]	activelow	md-raid1->loopdev(256bit known-plaintext resistent)->nilfs2 with segment crc
[15:09]	TR News	#SteamDeck 101: Everything You Need to Know About Valves Handheld Gaming PC | PCMag https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/steam-deck-101-everything-you-need-to-know-about-valves-handheld-gaming #pcmag
[15:09]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: pcmag.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/steam-deck-101-everything-you-need-to-know-about-valves-handheld-gaming
[15:09]	TR Bot	Deck 101: Everything You Need to Know About Valve's Handheld Gaming PC | PCMag
[15:09]	activelow	with this, online-backups are possible, easily, even with crypto and integrity in place on top of md-raid, which is awesome
[15:11]	activelow	30MiB/s, cheapo USB-sata dock, 100% cpu utilization with disk i/o and wireguard-protected gigabit ethernet inside LAN
[15:13]	TR News	#microsoft #windows TCO: "ESET dubbed the nasty Win32/KillDisk.NCV. It's understood the code not only wipes files from the drive, it also nukes the MBR, making booting and recovery difficult or impossible thereafter." https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/ukraine_wiper_malware/ http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
[15:13]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/23/ukraine_wiper_malware/
[15:13]	TR Bot	 Hundreds of Ukraine computers hit with wiper malware ESET The Register
[15:14]	TR News	#SteamDeck Review in Progress https://www.ign.com/articles/steam-deck-review #kde #gnu #linux
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[15:14]	TR Bot	Deck Review in Progress - IGN
[15:14]	activelow	i could use some help, with testing TinyCC against kernel 5.10 for aarch32 or aarch64
[15:15]	activelow	there's certainly some parts missing to implement, in particular ASM processing related, which is incomplete for aarch32 and absent for aarch64
[15:15]	activelow	and both musl-libc and kernel require this
[15:15]	TR News	The Astro Slide A modern phone with a full-sized mechanical keyboard Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161878 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:15]	TR Bot	 The Astro Slide A modern phone with a full-sized mechanical keyboard | Tux Machines
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[15:16]	activelow	otherwise, the no-c++ userspace is ready for action too, to be compiled with TinyCC
[15:19]	activelow	once done, i'll not bother with GNU/Linux that much anymore
[15:19]	TR News	Meet airyxOS, Open-Source macOS Alternative In The Making Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161879 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:19]	TR Bot	 Meet airyxOS, Open-Source macOS Alternative In The Making | Tux Machines
[15:19]	TR News	#TerraMaster F4-422 Upgrade TrueNAS Core to #TrueNAS Scale for Docker Compatibility Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161880 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:19]	TR Bot	 TerraMaster F4-422 Upgrade TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale for Docker Compatibility | Tux Machines
[15:22]	TR News	Step Onto TrueNAS Scale - PC Perspective http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161880#comment-32913
[15:22]	TR Bot	 TerraMaster F4-422 Upgrade TrueNAS Core to TrueNAS Scale for Docker Compatibility | Tux Machines
[15:24]	activelow	i'm not particularly happy with NFSv3, nonetheless it's good enough, 30MiB/s, and NFS is what it is
[15:24]	TR News	This is not what a back door actually means https://www.techradar.com/news/this-linux-backdoor-went-undetected-for-10-years see http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/ what back doors are: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[15:24]	TR Bot	Linux backdoor went undetected for 10 years | TechRadar
[15:24]	TR Bot	 CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
[15:24]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
[15:25]	activelow	too i'll try to patch kernel to remove capability and ptrace support entirely
[15:30]	XRevan86	schestowitz: The implications are wide.
[15:31]	XRevan86	For countries that do business with Russia and for people who work remotely for an international company without a local presence.
[15:31]	XRevan86	And for a company's local presence too, since they have to exchange funds somehow.
[15:42]	TR News	WTH??? #betanews TOP sections: "Windows 10 Windows 11 Microsoft". Hey BetaNews, what are you doing? YOU ARE GIVING AWAY WHAT AN #astroTurfing site you are! http://techrights.org/wiki/AstroTurfing
[15:42]	TR Bot	 AstroTurfing - Techrights
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[15:43]	bnchs	schestowitz, he doesnt want to port fortnite to GNU/Linux
[15:44]	bnchs	but he does want to port to android
[15:44]	bnchs	which can be modified with a custom kernel
[15:44]	bnchs	and his reason for not porting to GNU/Linux is because "custom kernels"
[15:45]	bnchs	mental gymnastic going on his brian
[15:45]	bnchs	s/brian/brain/
[15:46]	TR News	"In other words, installing Windows 11 Pro will now, just like 11 Home, also require a Microsoft Account and thus an internet connection. You didnt think pro users would be safe from big techs data hunger, now, did you?" https://www.osnews.com/story/134584/windows-11-pro-to-also-requite-microsoft-account-during-installation/
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[15:46]	TR Bot	11 Pro to also requite Microsoft Account during installation OSnews
[15:46]	TR News	The #Tails operating system: What is it, who is it for, and how does it protect your identity online Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161881 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:46]	TR Bot	 The Tails operating system: What is it, who is it for, and how does it protect your identity online | Tux Machines
[15:48]	bnchs	free software devs are starting to sabotage their own software
[15:48]	bnchs	to make it unusable for russians
[15:48]	XRevan86	bnchs: Any example?
[15:49]	psydroid2	actual free software devs are writing free software as theyalways
[15:50]	psydroid2	they've always done*
[15:50]	bnchs	https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma/commit/a6fd626fb89b6fe8aa8c3bc2e614d26bf5be6e28
[15:50]	TR Bot	Russian language, ask Putin to stop the war and unlock it louislam/uptime-kuma@a6fd626 GitHub
[15:51]	bnchs	he straight up deleted the ENTIRE russian locale
[15:51]	bnchs	for a war
[15:51]	XRevan86	bnchs: Russian-speaking Ukrainians that fight for their country probably appreciate the gesture.
[15:51]	psydroid2	indeed
[15:52]	psydroid2	this isn't in any way a solution
[15:52]	bnchs	he replaced all the russian language messages with "Ask Putin to stop the war"
[15:52]	bnchs	which means everything will say that
[15:52]	XRevan86	Yes, this is a stupid futile move that will not have any positive effect.
[15:53]	bnchs	imagine ruining your integrity for a war 
[15:53]	XRevan86	Imagine not having Russian citizenship but still getting a nag to ask Putin for anything.
[15:54]	bnchs	Ask Putin to unlock
[15:55]	bnchs	im pretty sure you can find other examples of free software devs sabotaging their software for russians
[15:55]	bnchs	like proprietary software
[15:55]	bnchs	(only on github)
[15:56]	psydroid2	"Ask the House of Saud to unlock Arabic language for all Moroccans. Until that time you are going to going to get French and German. Or English if you pay us enough"
[15:56]	psydroid2	are only going*
[15:56]	XRevan86	https://youtu.be/5TyDBiUaGAI?t=295
[15:56]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[15:57]	XRevan86	I guess she is trying to ask Putin, but a bit differently.
[15:57]	TR News	...nations die when they fail to keep their population well educated, informed, competitive https://spectrumnews1.com/ky/louisville/news/2022/02/17/fewer-education-majors
[15:57]	TR Bot	 Fewer people are getting certified to teach in Kentucky
[15:58]	TR News	In case the news from #ukraine didn't put you down... https://en.mercopress.com/2022/02/24/antarctic-sea-ice-set-of-a-new-record-low-minimum-greenpeace
[15:58]	TR Bot	 Antarctic sea ice set of a new record low minimum, Greenpeace MercoPress
[15:58]	XRevan86	psydroid2 will be able to differentiate the languages.
[15:59]	TR News	Lovely photo, but sad news https://goodmenproject.com/environment-2/as-climate-change-melts-antarctic-ice-gentoo-penguins-venture-further-south/
[15:59]	TR Bot	( status 403 @ https://goodmenproject.com/environment-2/as-climate-change-melts-antarctic-ice-gentoo-penguins-venture-further-south/ )
[15:59]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: goodmenproject.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://goodmenproject.com/environment-2/as-climate-change-melts-antarctic-ice-gentoo-penguins-venture-further-south/
● Feb 26
[16:00]	psydroid2	this is obviously Russian spoken by Ukrainian soldiers, even though the title of the video is in Ukrainian
[16:01]	psydroid2	several of my friends are from Kharkov and Russian is their first language
[16:01]	XRevan86	Would be a shame if they try to use uptime-kuma
[16:02]	psydroid2	I hope other developers won't follow the example of this developer and butcher their software based on a language that is not spoken just in Russia but all over current and former Soviet nations
[16:02]	bnchs	they will just download the source code of uptime-kuma and apply a restored russian localization patch
[16:03]	bnchs	the problem is if the localization becomes outdated
[16:03]	bnchs	you would need translators to keep it updated
[16:03]	TR News	"I spoke to him from his home in Helsinki and he explained that when early programmers built the Unix system, which many programs run on, they used a code with a time limit." https://www.alabamanews.net/2022/02/24/what-the-tech-why-the-end-of-time-for-some-computer-programs-and-systems-is-coming/
[16:03]	TR Bot	 What the Tech? Why the End of Time for Some Computer Programs and Systems is Coming - Alabama News
[16:04]	TR News	LOL!!! #OnMSFT WTF???? https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-details-updates-coming-to-windows-11-notepad
[16:04]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: onmsft.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-details-updates-coming-to-windows-11-notepad
[16:04]	TR Bot	details updates coming to Windows 11 Notepad - OnMSFT.com
[16:04]	psydroid2	I think you would just fork the project before this patch was integrated and never touch the original project again, because its maintainer can't be trusted to keep (real-life non-software) politics out of the project
[16:05]	TR News	#linux is a #kernel Sandra ... it does not done "pipes" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3651350/using-pipes-on-linux-to-get-a-lot-more-done.htmlhttp://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Welcome to Network World.com
[16:05]	psydroid2	I'm not saying people shouldn't be political, but there are other ways to get involved than sabotaging something like this
[16:05]	bnchs	a developer who butchers their software for real-life politics is not worth trusting
[16:05]	TR News	#linux is a #kernel Sandra ... it does not done "pipes" https://www.networkworld.com/article/3651350/using-pipes-on-linux-to-get-a-lot-more-done.html http://techrights.org/2020/01/02/gnu-programs-as-linux-commands/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Using pipes on Linux to get a lot more done | Network World
[16:05]	TR Bot	 GNU Programs Arent Linux Commands But GNU Programs | Techrights
[16:06]	bnchs	political opinions should not get in the way of software development
[16:06]	bnchs	(real-life non-software)*
[16:06]	schestowitz-TR	soon we'll have 
[16:06]	schestowitz-TR	"pro-lifer coders"
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	"Trumpist testers"
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	"Libertarian bug reporter"
[16:07]	bnchs	in other words, firefox will now filter out "adult" sites from the top sites list
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	"Atheist salesperson"
[16:07]	schestowitz-TR	as if mixing these things is healthy..
[16:07]	bnchs	with a hard-coded MD5 list
[16:07]	bnchs	https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/newtab/lib/FilterAdult.jsm
[16:07]	TR Bot	 FilterAdult.jsm - mozsearch
[16:08]	bnchs	https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/components/newtab/lib/TopSitesFeed.jsm#836
[16:08]	TR Bot	 TopSitesFeed.jsm - mozsearch
[16:08]	bnchs	they could insert anything into that MD5 list
[16:08]	bnchs	you cant disable the filter anyway
[16:09]	TR News	Vladolf Putler can close this bug universally while going on nuclear-armed warpath https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/02/24/what-tech-end-time-is-nigh-according-computers-anyway/
[16:09]	TR Bot	 What the Tech: The end of time is nigh (according to computers anyway)
[16:09]	TR News	#microsoft sites like this propaganda https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/nsa-linked-bvp47-linux-backdoor-widely-undetected-for-10-years/ it's not a back door. See http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
[16:09]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: bleepingcomputer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/nsa-linked-bvp47-linux-backdoor-widely-undetected-for-10-years/
[16:09]	TR Bot	 NSA-linked Bvp47 Linux backdoor widely undetected for 10 years
[16:09]	TR Bot	 CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
[16:10]	TR News	15K is STILL faaar too much https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-details-Alder-Lake-P-and-Alder-Lake-U-Significant-multi-core-gains-over-Core-i7-1195G7-but-Ryzen-7-5800U-shows-higher-efficency-at-15-W.603493.0.html the batteries won't last long. #intel is doomed. Even its own workers flee: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[16:10]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: notebookcheck.net | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-details-Alder-Lake-P-and-Alder-Lake-U-Significant-multi-core-gains-over-Core-i7-1195G7-but-Ryzen-7-5800U-shows-higher-efficency-at-15-W.603493.0.html
[16:10]	TR Bot	details Alder Lake-P and Alder Lake-U: Significant multi-core gains over Core i7-1195G7, but Ryzen 7 5800U shows higher efficency at 15 W - NotebookCheck.net News
[16:10]	TR Bot	 Intel leaks - Techrights
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[16:11]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 21.65 k/sec., IPFS upstream 16.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.56
[16:11]	bnchs	https://gist.github.com/roycewilliams/04ed6eb9509b83ce4d85873861c7f7b4
[16:11]	TR Bot	 firefox-adult-inadjacency-cracked.txt GitHub
[16:11]	bnchs	they cracked the MD5 hashes
[16:11]	XRevan86	bnchs: They probably think "what should I do to help the cause?" and then look at a thing they have domain over (a project), and this is what they come up with.
[16:12]	bnchs	XRevan86: and then you see websites and projects literally banning russia
[16:12]	TR News	In the eyes of #clownflare if you do not run some foreign, unknown #proprietarySofware code (JS, an ACTUAL security risk!) it makes you suspicious and they'll obstruct access to punish you. #cloudflare is CANCER ON THE WEB. We need to eradicate this cancer.
[16:12]	bnchs	and trying to sabotage russians in a way that guy did
[16:13]	bnchs	fuck up the russian localization
[16:13]	XRevan86	bnchs: Right.
[16:13]	schestowitz-TR	how about they focus on their sites?
[16:14]	schestowitz-TR	and leave politics to political sites?
[16:15]	XRevan86	It's like Fair Licences. It's also in the "I appreciate the effort but this isn't helping" category.
[16:15]	MinceR	26 154708 <~schestowitz> didn't KSA do that?
[16:15]	MinceR	many fundies did that
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[16:17]	bnchs	i almost forgot about that russian mypal guy that was working on a windows xp port of firefox quantum 
[16:17]	bnchs	i wonder what hes doing
[16:20]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: whatever happens, we don't do boycotts or anything
[16:21]	schestowitz-TR	Russians who do not vote for Putin are also victims
[16:21]	XRevan86	schestowitz: I know.
[16:21]	schestowitz-TR	[09:57] <techrights-news> NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Ukraine Im panicking where is my child? Conscript soldiers are being sent to fight against Ukraine, their relatives say. Heres what their families told Meduza. https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/02/26/i-m-panicking-where-is-my-child
[16:21]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: meduza.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/02/26/i-m-panicking-where-is-my-child
[16:21]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:22]	XRevan86	"Conscript soldiers are being sent to fight against Ukraine" <- That's illegal by Russian law, by the way. Not that anyone cares.
[16:22]	schestowitz-TR	Who knew Mother Russia was some 70 year old man allegedly with Parkinson's and self-esteem issues?
[16:24]	XRevan86	bnchs: I just looked up his email, and boy it must be very old.
[16:24]	activelow	a highest ranking german army general admitted, not being ready for action
[16:24]	activelow	yesterday evening
[16:25]	TR News	A Rare Public Fight Over Facts Erupts Before Supreme Court Arguments | National Law Journal https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2022/02/24/a-rare-public-fight-over-facts-erupts-before-supreme-court-arguments/ #law
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[16:25]	TR Bot	Rare Public Fight Over Facts Erupts Before Supreme Court Arguments | National Law Journal
[16:26]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-35.jpg
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[16:26]	XRevan86	From like early 2000s
[16:28]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: so you like bears, too
[16:29]	TR News	#proprietarySoftware is a dead end https://www.techradar.com/news/fujitsu-is-ending-its-mainframe-and-unix-services
[16:29]	TR Bot	is ending its mainframe and Unix services | TechRadar
[16:31]	TR News	Good for the environment https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dell_q4_2022/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/02/article-on-digital-rights-in-2021-part-9/
[16:31]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/dell_q4_2022/
[16:31]	TR Bot	 Component shortages still challenging Dell The Register
[16:31]	TR Bot	 My Year as a Digital Vegan Part IX Hard Reckonings: The Nine Circles of E-Waste | Techrights
[16:33]	TR News	Why the "Windows" slant here? Editor's clickbait? https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/24/neptune_os_sel4_windows/
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[16:33]	TR Bot	 Neptune OS to add Windows personality to seL4 microkernel The Register
[16:33]	TR News	#ponzischemes are a crime here, too https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/china_cryptocurrency_illegal_fundraising_crime/
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[16:33]	TR Bot	 China makes using cryptocurrency a crime The Register
[16:34]	XRevan86	bnchs: By the way, from his screenshot we know he lives in a village Boyarka either under Kiev, under Novosibirsk or in Udmurtia.
[16:34]	MinceR	if the state can effectively prevent cryptocurrencies from being used, then cryptocurrencies have failed their purpose anyway
[16:34]	bnchs	oh?
[16:34]	XRevan86	bnchs: https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/blob/9ed70017c77c3be71d986ca0fc2ba355f5aff17f/README.md screenshot here
[16:34]	TR News	More inflation after #russia invades #ukraine https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/ukraine_chipmaking_supply/
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[16:34]	TR Bot	at 9ed70017c77c3be71d986ca0fc2ba355f5aff17f Feodor2/Mypal GitHub
[16:34]	TR Bot	 Ukraine invasion may hit chip supply chain analysts The Register
[16:35]	bnchs	morocco already banned crypto in 2017(?)
[16:35]	XRevan86	bnchs: The OZON page has location selected: Boyarka.
[16:35]	XRevan86	I don't think OZON works in Ukraine, so it's either Novosibirsk oblast' or Udmurtia.
[16:36]	XRevan86	Though actually, Kiev oblast' does show up.
[16:36]	XRevan86	So many it does/did work in Ukraine.
[16:36]	bnchs	yes
[16:39]	TR News	#SimonSharwood perpetuates the idea that the #gartner #fraud is somewhat of an authority https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/manage_long_lead_times_for_networking_equipment/ #gartnergroup = glorified, well-funded shills: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
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[16:39]	TR Bot	 Network equipment lead times to remain painfully long into 2023: Gartner The Register
[16:39]	TR Bot	 Gartner Group - Techrights
[16:40]	TR News	Any time an editor or journalist puts "AI" or "Metaverse" in a headline he or she gives away a lack of interest in actual journalism
[16:40]	bnchs	so epic games tried to offer a game dev a exclusivity deal on epic games store
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	typical
[16:40]	bnchs	the dev refused, and epic games responded by banning his game from the epic games store
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	here's my question
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	how is that legal?
[16:40]	schestowitz-TR	how does this NOT harm the PUBLIC?
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	These are deals designed to induce self benefit at the public's expense
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	and the contracts should be sent to regulatory agencies for potential prosectoin
[16:41]	XRevan86	bnchs: His living in a village kind of explains why he invested time in MyPal rather than in a more powerful PC.
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	like Intel telling stores NOT to stock any "rival" chips
[16:41]	schestowitz-TR	and then they call it "free market'
[16:42]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: Tim Swine-e
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[16:44]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR: the joke is that you cant release your games on both the epic games store and steam
[16:44]	bnchs	https://www.pcgamer.com/darq-developer-reveals-why-he-turned-down-epic-store-exclusivity/
[16:44]	TR Bot	 DARQ developer turned down Epic Games Store exclusivity | PC Gamer
[16:44]	TR News	There's hardly any news on the #www about #russia and #ukraine ... lots of #propaganda , sure, and the actual news gets drowned out by the noise. #socialcontrolmedia by far the WORST.
[16:45]	bnchs	when its apple doing the antitrust, its BAD. but when its epic doing the antitrust, its good?
[16:46]	TR News	You've gotta love how #fakeCoin sites always pose with photos of ACTUAL coins, typically made of ACTUAL precious metals, to give you the illusion BTC isn't another bubble among many (sans the hype)... or is backed by a material thing https://coingeek.com/hey-david-rosenthal-a-response-from-one-industry-visionary-to-another/
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[16:46]	TR Bot	David Rosenthal: A response from one industry visionary to another - CoinGeek
[16:47]	XRevan86	Gasprom Media fired two producers for anti-war statements because they are "spreading radical political views"
[16:47]	XRevan86	At least they're not extremists yet.
[16:47]	TR News	Even "dead president heads" money is a lot more legitimate than all this "BTC" hype. And even of those are dead presidents of some country like #peru ... at least you can buy material things with it, and will be able to 20 years from now as well
[16:48]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: not "foreign agents"
[16:48]	XRevan86	or terrorists
[16:48]	schestowitz-TR	war is not extreists
[16:48]	schestowitz-TR	questioning war is "radical"
[16:49]	bnchs	tim sweeney still tweets about apple everyday
[16:49]	bnchs	trying to think that apple isnt living in his head rent-free
[16:50]	TR News	All this computation poppycock and "proof of concept" etc. is how some #ponzischemes try to pass themselves as "science", more legitimate than the rest, even expensive (you pay with your power bills, don't you? That must turn into SOMETHING!)
[16:51]	TR News	#bitcoin proponents made to look like cranks https://cryptobriefing.com/no-linus-torvalds-is-not-satoshi-nakamoto/
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[16:51]	TR Bot	 No, Linus Torvalds Is Not Satoshi Nakamoto - Crypto Briefing
[16:52]	TR News	"Spyderbat has appointed Linux and Unix expert Hal Pomeranz to its Advisory Board." https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2022/02/02/spyderbat-hal-pomeranz/ Never heard of Pomeranz... promotional exaggeration?
[16:52]	TR Bot	 Hal Pomeranz joins Spyderbat Advisory Board - Help Net Security
[16:53]	TR News	"EDGE"!!! "5G"!!!! "HEY HI"!!! #intel in crisis... let's overcompensate with #buzzwords https://www.theregister.com/2022/02/25/intel_xeon_d_openvino/ http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
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[16:53]	TR Bot	 Intel unveils new 5G and AI tech for the edge The Register
[16:53]	TR Bot	 Intel leaks - Techrights
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[16:57]	TR News	#microsoft #propaganda site #MotleyFool (yes, connection) is playing up pure BS, "Metaverse". Seems the business model is such sites is spreading lies and promoting scams/schemes.
[16:58]	TR News	"Ambassador CLOWN". Imagine having a CLOWN as your Ambassador https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/02/24/2391397/0/en/Latest-Ambassador-Cloud-Dramatically-Reduces-Complexity-Across-the-Entire-Software-Development-Lifecycle-for-Kubernetes.html #clowncomputing #buzzwords #bullshit
[16:58]	TR Bot	 Latest Ambassador Cloud Dramatically Reduces Complexity
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[17:00]	TR News	Has the #linuxfoundation not (yet) spun of some "NFT Foundation" or something? They've spun off so many others lies, scams, and #reputationlaundering (by #openwashing mostly) things, so why not NFT?
[17:00]	TR News	Growing Black tech leaders: It takes a village https://www.verizon.com/about/parenting/growing-black-tech-leaders-it-takes-village see #linuxfoundation http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/
[17:00]	TR Bot	Black tech leaders: It takes a village | About Verizon
[17:00]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its Support for the Black Community | Techrights
[17:01]	XRevan86	https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326208/ memeful
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[17:01]	TR Bot	 ''Russian train, go f*ck yourself!'': all the railway junctions with Russia have been destroyed | Ukrayinska Pravda
[17:01]	bnchs	i like everyone is just sabotaging the innocent russians
[17:01]	bnchs	instead of puti
[17:02]	XRevan86	bnchs: Um, this makes sense, railways can be used for malice.
[17:02]	TR News	The only black people #linuxfoundation 'employs' are fictional people whom white executives use as an excuse to water down language used to explain how corporations treat the #freesw community (altruistic volunteers) http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/
[17:02]	schestowitz	XRevan86: railguns
[17:03]	MinceR	putler is a pussy, he's not easy to reach
[17:03]	TR News	"It is noted that this was done in order to block Russian Railways from delivering equipment and personnel of the Russian Army" https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/02/26/7326208/
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[17:04]	bnchs	ask putin to unlock the railways
[17:04]	bnchs	send a mail
[17:04]	schestowitz-TR	maybe the disease will kill him soon, but not soon enough
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[17:05]	bnchs	how are you gonna escape russia now
[17:05]	XRevan86	bnchs: Not through Ukraine.
[17:05]	schestowitz	https://plainsmenpost.com/leaked-document-says-roman-abramovich-was-of-interest-to-uk-over-links-to-russian-state/
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[17:05]	TR Bot	 Leaked document says Roman Abramovich was of interest to UK over links to Russian state Plainsmen Post
[17:06]	TR News	10 Years Later, Heres Why the Raspberry Pi Still Rocks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161882 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:06]	TR Bot	 10 Years Later, Heres Why the Raspberry Pi Still Rocks | Tux Machines
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: dig a whole into the ground, come out from other side
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[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	but I think from st. petersburg the other side of the pacific ocean
[17:07]	schestowitz-TR	*is the
[17:08]	bnchs	what if flat earth theory applies
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	where many nuclear "tests" were conducted
[17:08]	bnchs	you dig a hole, and you fall to space
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: then it's a lot of digging
[17:08]	schestowitz-TR	some flat earth says hell is beneath, not space
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	if hell is benath the earth
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	than what is beneath hell?
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	HINH
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	Hell is Not Hell
[17:09]	schestowitz-TR	HINH is Not Hell
[17:10]	XRevan86	Beneath Hell there is Russia
[17:10]	TR News	Hey, it's not like #journalism for the Establishment has a future. If you don't do #propaganda you get sacked https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/well/live/jane-brody-personal-health-retires.html
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[17:10]	TR Bot	 Jane Brody, Trailblazing Service Journalist, Retires From The Times - The New York Times
[17:10]	XRevan86	 -.
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	XRevan86: sounds circular
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	like.. earth
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	hello below russia
[17:11]	schestowitz-TR	and russia below hell
[17:12]	TR News	Operators, not pilots. #drones have no pilots, by definition. https://www.timeswv.com/news/local_news/regional-drone-pilot-competition-fills-falcon-center-gyms/article_8eb697d2-9694-11ec-9de2-ff604a28a8d1.html
[17:12]	TR Bot	drone pilot competition fills Falcon Center gyms | Local News | timeswv.com
[17:13]	schestowitz	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/business/dealbook/russia-ukraine-sanctions-energy.html
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[17:13]	TR Bot	 Sanctions on Russia Over Ukraine Have Some Big Holes - The New York Times
[17:13]	schestowitz	I cannot fact-check
[17:13]	schestowitz	so much noise
[17:13]	schestowitz	that you no longer know what to believe
[17:13]	schestowitz	rianne is being misled by "DW"and other "good" gulagtube channels
[17:13]	schestowitz	they even recommended "the SUN"!
[17:14]	schestowitz	and then fabricate BS
[17:14]	schestowitz	clickbait
[17:14]	XRevan86	schestowitz: This article is from yesterday, it's already outdated.
[17:16]	activelow	i don't believe in this spectacle
[17:17]	TR News	Capitalism 2008-2011: blame the greedy poor! They took too much debt (while the billionaire grifters, the lenders, did not pay tax; they took bonuses). Capitalism 2011-2019: so what if salaries stayed the same while inflation grew? Capitalism 2020-2022: be glad you're live. "Nature" (coronavirus) strikes. Capitalism 2022-end: be glad you're live. Russia strikes.
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[17:19]	TR News	#ukraine learns that there's no such thing as "the international community"; there's just #putin or #trump doing their own thing, everyone else is mostly a spectator. Community... like football fans on their pews.
[17:20]	TR News	There's also no such thing as "the Linux community" because due to a decade (plus) of vicious attacks by the #linuxfoundation that brand no longer means what you thought it had meant http://techrights.org/2021/06/23/linux-foundation-and-linux-brand/
[17:20]	TR Bot	 Time for Linus Torvalds to Enforce and Protect His Brand From Misuse by His Employer, the So-called Linux Foundation | Techrights
[17:20]	TR News	Jim Zemlin: #ukraine loves #russia http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/
[17:20]	TR Bot	 Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights
[17:23]	TR News	"Ireland is still clean and green." Oh really? #greenwashing https://tacomaweekly.com/ireland-clean-greener-and-reopening-p2709-197.htm
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[17:23]	TR Bot	 Ireland: Clean, Greener and Reopening
[17:25]	TR News	Don't do this! This is #surveillance disguised as "advancement" (it could be done 40 years ago, feasibly and cheaply) https://thepaypers.com/thought-leader-insights/android-in-payments-why-the-coolest-innovations-happen-first-in-the-smallest-retailers--1254699 see http://techrights.org/2021/03/23/war-on-cashiers/
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[17:25]	TR Bot	in payments: Why the coolest innovations happen first in the smallest retailers - ThePaypers
[17:25]	TR Bot	 Self-Service is Just an Unjust Disservice by Selfish Business People | Techrights
[17:26]	TR News	#CarlIcahn has not been arrested yet? Why are those corrupt vandals allowed to even openly roam Wall Street? https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/20/business/dealbook/mcdonalds-pork-carl-icahn.html
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[17:26]	TR Bot	 Carl Icahn Pushes McDonalds to Change Way It Sources Its Pork - The New York Times
[17:27]	TR News	This is a #Microsoft #Windows issue, not a development issue https://www.csoonline.com/article/3649798/why-devops-pipelines-are-under-attack-and-how-to-fight-back.html
[17:27]	TR Bot	 Why DevOps pipelines are under attack and how to fight back | CSO Online
[17:28]	bnchs	lol payment via phone
[17:28]	TR News	But being #proprietarySoftware it cannot be trusted https://www.crainsnewyork.com/technology/nyc-based-startup-beyond-identity-hopes-make-passwords-thing-past
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[17:29]	TR Bot	 NYC-based startup Beyond Identity hopes to make passwords a thing of the past | Crain's New York Business
[17:29]	bnchs	thats dumb
[17:29]	schestowitz-TR	i saw one doing it yesterday
[17:30]	schestowitz-TR	it's not even saving time
[17:30]	schestowitz-TR	and they give away their id
[17:30]	schestowitz-TR	not just to the shop
[17:30]	schestowitz-TR	but the leeches attached to the "phone
[17:32]	bnchs	NFC sniffing
[17:32]	XRevan86	"IRC source" https://znak.com/2022-02-26/tnt_perestalo_rabotat_s_prodyuserami_holostyaka_i_orla_i_reshki_iz_za_postov_pro_ukrainu <https://www.znak.com/2022-02-26/tnt_perestalo_rabotat_s_prodyuserami_holostyaka_i_orla_i_reshki_iz_za_postov_pro_ukrainu>
[17:32]	TR Bot	 - 
[17:33]	schestowitz	yes, I knew it would be non-English
[17:33]	schestowitz	at least the translation was from a Russian who is not a Putler
[17:33]	bnchs	i like how the ads in that site manage to cause a rendering bug in my browser
[17:33]	schestowitz	the two things are rare or suppressed
[17:33]	XRevan86	schestowitz: :)
[17:34]	schestowitz	as Putler does not want any non-Putlers in Russia to speak out
[17:34]	schestowitz	today he arrested some more
[17:34]	schestowitz	to scare the rest
[17:34]	bnchs	they have these smart NFC doors
[17:34]	schestowitz	bnchs: web is bokrn
[17:34]	schestowitz	if it's not broken
[17:34]	schestowitz	it's because you do it wrong
[17:34]	schestowitz	1) use chrome (malware)
[17:34]	schestowitz	2) allow all scripts
[17:35]	schestowitz	3) trust spying parties
[17:35]	schestowitz	and even then you may need lots of processing power
[17:35]	schestowitz	(aka "buy a new computer")
[17:35]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Can ye believe the Constitution of the Russian Federation guarantees Freedom of Conscience?
[17:35]	schestowitz	Putin doesn't care
[17:35]	schestowitz	we're living in dark times in Europe also
[17:35]	schestowitz	see EPC and EPO
[17:36]	schestowitz	they know they violate Conventions and Constitutions
[17:36]	schestowitz	and they just don't care
[17:36]	bnchs	schestowitz: you need big PC to handle 2 tons of ads
[17:36]	schestowitz	politicians do not seem to care, either
[17:36]	schestowitz	the whole point of having these is for the public to call out the government when it goes rogue
[17:36]	schestowitz	bnchs: yes, use gemini
[17:36]	schestowitz	we are developing some rss stuff for gemini
[17:37]	schestowitz	and we'll soon link more to gemini URIs
[17:37]	schestowitz	less WWW
[17:37]	bnchs	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_IIDq5IS6I0
[17:37]	TR Bot	 NFC Unlock Doors W/Smartphone - Invidious
[17:37]	bnchs	you dont need to steal keys now
[17:38]	bnchs	you can just use your phone to copy the NFC key
[17:38]	TR News	By making it digital or "online" you make it LESS inclusive https://www.ft.lk/front-page/Ground-breaking-initiative-to-make-IT-education-inclusive/44-731054
[17:38]	TR Bot	 Ground-breaking initiative to make IT education inclusive | Daily FT
[17:39]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: yes, lots of bogus security 
[17:39]	schestowitz-TR	and cargo cults to promote them
[17:39]	schestowitz-TR	like expensive yubiukeys and stuff
[17:39]	bnchs	yes its so secure
[17:39]	schestowitz-TR	more about posing and showoiff
[17:39]	schestowitz-TR	gadgets instead of science
[17:39]	bnchs	in the fact that now they dont need to forge a key themselves or lockpick
[17:39]	bnchs	they can copy your key when you're unaware
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	worse yet
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	at airport they copy all your "phones" stuff
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	inc. passwords
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	but it's OK
[17:40]	psydroid2	I was just told there are 18 km of queues along the Ukrainian-Romanian border
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	they are a government
[17:40]	bnchs	really?
[17:40]	schestowitz-TR	it's not like the government ever employs criminals and perverts
[17:40]	bnchs	they copy everything from your phone?
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	yes
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	I saw it for real in germany
[17:41]	bnchs	including your hidden stash of porn
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	turks
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	in frankfurt airport
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	they have tools for scanning devices fast
[17:41]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: only idiots put pr0n on a mobile device
[17:41]	psydroid2	laptops with unencrypted drives too?
[17:42]	bnchs	yes
[17:42]	bnchs	you have to AES-256 encrypt your tar.gz of porn
[17:42]	TR News	#ksa #sportwashing #crimesAgainstHumanity #whitewashing #reputationLaundering https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/22/sports/golf/mickelson-saudi-league-pga.html
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[17:42]	TR Bot	 Phil Mickelson Apologizes for Support of Saudi-Backed Golf League - The New York Times
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	psydroid2: don't take them through borders
[17:42]	bnchs	and then XOR encrypt it with a key you know
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	or only without batteries
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	they made new rules though
[17:42]	schestowitz-TR	they obstruct you broading the plane
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	if the devices you bring don't have "enough" battery
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	this was like 5 years ago
[17:43]	psydroid2	schestowitz-TR, or just make fake installs and redo them in your destination country
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	or use ssh to your home
[17:43]	schestowitz-TR	which is what I do
[17:43]	psydroid2	yes
[17:44]	bnchs	schestowitz-TR: you gotta need this amount of battery to board on plane --->
[17:44]	TR News	When the "news" is "Hey Hi"-generated #webspam and the headlines might be autogenerated https://voonze.com/microsoft-shoots-with-a-bullet-in-the-trial-against-apple/
[17:44]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: voonze.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://voonze.com/microsoft-shoots-with-a-bullet-in-the-trial-against-apple/
[17:44]	TR Bot	 Microsoft "shoots with a bullet" in the trial against Apple - How smart Technology changing lives
[17:45]	bnchs	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M0Z-kYL5CEU
[17:45]	TR Bot	 How to Copy an Apartment RFID Card? -RFID Card Duplicator - Invidious
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[17:45]	bnchs	you can only copy rfid keys into a plastic writable rfid key
[17:45]	bnchs	and use them as keycards
[17:45]	bnchs	this is definitely secure
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[17:46]	TR News	The #openwashing of RAN https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/onf-releases-sd-ran-into-open-source sometimes by "releases SD-RAN into open source" they mean "sends to #microsoft #PROPRIETARYSOFTWARE #github ..."
[17:46]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: mobileworldlive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/onf-releases-sd-ran-into-open-source
[17:46]	TR Bot	 ONF releases SD-RAN into open source - Mobile World Live
[17:46]	bnchs	this only works on 125khz
[17:47]	TR News	It is NOT free, it is PREPAID https://island.lk/sri-lankans-now-have-access-to-free-financial-education/
[17:47]	TR Bot	 Sri Lankans now have access to free financial education The Island
[17:48]	TR News	"Wolters Kluwer, a global leader in professional information, software solutions, and services, today releases its full-year 2021 results." It's not "leader in professional information", it has been a #propaganda machine for #teamUPC , for instance, openly #LOBBYING for ILLEGAL things https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/02/23/2390001/0/en/Wolters-Kluwer-2021-Full-Year-Report.html
[17:48]	TR Bot	 Wolters Kluwer 2021 Full-Year Report
[17:49]	TR News	Amendments to Provisions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act https://www.natlawreview.com/article/2022-ip-outlook-report-developments-shaping-copyright-law #natlawreview #dmca
[17:49]	TR Bot	 Amendments to Provisions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
[17:50]	TR News	The Steve who actually did things for #apple (not merely ego-tripping) https://www.courierpress.com/story/news/2022/02/22/steve-wozniak-apple-co-founder-coming-usi-evansville-university-southern-indiana/6898196001/
[17:50]	TR Bot	 Steve Wozniak, apple co-founder coming to USI
[17:52]	TR News	" #TriggerMesh sponsored this post." So #thenewstack takes #bribes to promote #fiction https://thenewstack.io/is-serverless-just-a-stopover-for-event-driven-architecture/ #Serverless = 100% BS. http://techrights.org/2019/07/13/buzzwords-confronted.../
[17:52]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/is-serverless-just-a-stopover-for-event-driven-architecture/
[17:52]	TR Bot	 Is Serverless Just a Stopover for Event-Driven Architecture? The New Stack
[17:52]	TR Bot	 Theres No Such Thing as Cloud Computing, Serverless and All That Other Nonsense | Techrights
[17:52]	bnchs	did they pay microsoft for that hololens again
[17:53]	TR News	#melindagates is bribing still... just like she did with her #famouscriminal husband #billgates https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ada-developers-academy-brings-their-life-changing-tech-education-program-to-atlanta-georgia-after-melinda-french-gates-donation-301486442.html also see http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/crisis-text-line/ and http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/
[17:53]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ada-developers-academy-brings-their-life-changing-tech-education-program-to-atlanta-georgia-after-melinda-french-gates-donation-301486442.html
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Ada Developers Academy Brings Their Life-changing Tech Education Program to Atlanta, Georgia after Melinda French Gates Donation
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Crisis Text Line, a Charity Backed by Melinda Gates and Steve Ballmer, Collects Data From Suicidal People, Then Sells it to Advertisers and Other Third Parties | Techrights
[17:53]	TR Bot	 Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | Techrights
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[17:55]	TR News	2020: Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic Stash of #BillGates Engineer Techrights http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/ #Techrights #police #foia | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/08/21/zoophilia-gates-estate/
[17:55]	TR Bot	 Melinda and Zoophilia Found in Tandem in the Illegal Pornographic Stash of Bill Gates Engineer | Techrights
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs: again and again
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	bail out microsoft
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	we must
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	tio beat the russian
[17:55]	schestowitz-TR	pentagon budget, here you go
[17:55]	bnchs	i love paying microsoft with taxes
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	you do
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	you must
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	throiugh your government
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	the king pays them
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	to build flaky stuff like web sites
[17:56]	schestowitz-TR	and you pay with your labour
[17:56]	psydroid2	I love bailing out microsoft
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	maybe berlusconi and epstein+gates will come and visit 
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	and pick some girls on the way
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	"hitch"
[17:57]	psydroid2	bailing out on life as a company by sending them to the afterlife (a.k.a. bankruptcy)
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	that's US capitalism
[17:57]	schestowitz-TR	they have a name for it
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	in the context of banks
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	"too big to fail"
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	"and tool big to jail
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	"
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	they never arrest Microsoft managers for their crimes 
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	the executives know it
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	like Trump knows it
[17:58]	psydroid2	this company and its products have zero usefulness
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	it's the place where you can get arrested for exposing high-level criminals
[17:58]	psydroid2	"products"
[17:58]	schestowitz-TR	they themselves will hire well-connected law firms to fix the outcome
[17:59]	TR News	More plots for #surveillance it seems https://www.pr.com/press-release/855639 see http://techrights.org/2022/02/01/crisis-text-line/
[17:59]	TR Bot	Foundation Trust Introduces JCFTMate, a Friendly AI Chatbot to Help Combat Social Isolation and Loneliness - PR.com
[17:59]	TR Bot	 Crisis Text Line, a Charity Backed by Melinda Gates and Steve Ballmer, Collects Data From Suicidal People, Then Sells it to Advertisers and Other Third Parties | Techrights
● Feb 26
[18:00]	TR News	False because those fake coins do not actually offer #privacy and it is not at all their feature https://gazette.com/news/canadian-crackdown-on-truckers-highlights-privacy-benefits-of-cryptocurrency/article_41c4c7b2-0f4e-5c43-b144-64a40999db38.html
[18:00]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gazette.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gazette.com/news/canadian-crackdown-on-truckers-highlights-privacy-benefits-of-cryptocurrency/article_41c4c7b2-0f4e-5c43-b144-64a40999db38.html
[18:00]	TR Bot	crackdown on truckers highlights privacy benefits of cryptocurrency | News | gazette.com
[18:01]	bnchs	yes our websites include images with improperly downscaled aspect ratios
[18:01]	TR News	The only anonymous coin is an actual coin, a physical coin
[18:01]	bnchs	16:9 to 1:1
[18:02]	TR News	Unlike the racist #linuxfoundation they've given them REAL money https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220224006016/en/Voya-announces-recipients-of-new-Black-owned-small-business-grants see http://techrights.org/2021/01/22/linux-foundation-pr/
[18:02]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220224006016/en/Voya-announces-recipients-of-new-Black-owned-small-business-grants
[18:02]	TR Bot	 Voya announces recipients of new Black-owned small business grants | Business Wire
[18:02]	TR Bot	 The Linux Foundation is Trying to Obscure Racism Using Microsoft-Inspired Tactics (Vouchers Disguised as Actual Money) | Techrights
[18:03]	bnchs	i find early 2000's websites more appeasing to the eyes than our government websites
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	true
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	and you had more control overpresentation
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	it's getting harder due to side complexity
[18:04]	schestowitz-TR	change font size or zoom
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	and the whole structure breaks down
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	things vanishing
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	gemini is simple and strict
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	you could display them in so many ways
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	in our relay/gateway/proxy we chose a presentation style similar to the main site
[18:05]	schestowitz-TR	but without any peripheral files
[18:06]	schestowitz-TR	just one html file with some css in it
[18:07]	TR News	CHIPS Alliance Forms #F4PGA Workgroup to Accelerate Adoption of Open Source #FPGA Tooling https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chips-alliance-forms-f4pga-workgroup-to-accelerate-adoption-of-open-source-fpga-tooling-301489053.html
[18:07]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: prnewswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/chips-alliance-forms-f4pga-workgroup-to-accelerate-adoption-of-open-source-fpga-tooling-301489053.html
[18:07]	TR Bot	 CHIPS Alliance Forms F4PGA Workgroup to Accelerate Adoption of Open Source FPGA Tooling
[18:10]	TR News	Samsung version inflation has gone out of control. 10 years ago it was S2. https://www.engadget.com/samsung-galaxy-s-22-review-sprucing-up-a-solid-foundation-151522033.html
[18:10]	TR Bot	Galaxy S22 review: Sprucing up a solid foundation | Engadget
[18:10]	bnchs	gulagtube's joke: age restricted videos are sometimes considered for kids
[18:11]	bnchs	COPPA
[18:11]	TR News	Rare Retrial Begins in Killing of American in Greece - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/bakari-henderson-killing-greece-retrial.html #nytimes
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[18:11]	TR Bot	 Rare Retrial Begins in Killing of American in Greece - The New York Times
[18:11]	bnchs	COPPA is a good law but gulagtube poorly implemented it intentionally
[18:12]	TR News	#surveillance worse than any #taxi service in existence https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/24/motional-and-via-launch-free-autonomous-ride-hail-service-in-las-vegas/
[18:12]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: techcrunch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://techcrunch.com/2022/02/24/motional-and-via-launch-free-autonomous-ride-hail-service-in-las-vegas/
[18:12]	TR Bot	and Via launch free autonomous ride-hail service in Las Vegas TechCrunch
[18:13]	TR News	"On 24 February 2022, the Chancellor Rishi Sunak gave the annual #Mais lecture at Bayes Business School." https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/chancellor-rishi-sunaks-mais-lecture-2022
[18:13]	TR Bot	Rishi Sunak's Mais Lecture 2022 - GOV.UK
[18:15]	TR News	#listeningDevices with tracking and deeper #surveillance and rapidly getting more sophisticated. Should we celebrate these? https://www.engadget.com/samsung-galaxy-s-22-review-sprucing-up-a-solid-foundation-151522033.html
[18:15]	TR News	Imagine this was posted in the news section the same day #russia invaded #ukraine https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/style/social-qs.html
[18:15]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/24/style/social-qs.html
[18:15]	TR Bot	 Why Wont My Boyfriend Shut Up About How Much He Loves His Ex? - The New York Times
[18:21]	TR News	17 Best Games to Play on Your Chromebook in 2022 https://www.maketecheasier.com/awesome-games-chromebook/ #maketecheasier | more in http://schestowitz.com/2022/02/26/#latest
[18:21]	TR Bot	 17 Best Games to Play on Your Chromebook in 2022 - Make Tech Easier
[18:21]	TR Bot	 Social Control Media Posts
[18:22]	TR News	Russian State Media Banned from Running Ads or Monetizing on Facebook https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/russian-state-media-banned-from-running-ads-or-monetizing-on-facebook #facebook would not do the same if it was US invading #iraq ... because #zuckerberg is a remorseless political animals
[18:22]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: linuxandubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/russian-state-media-banned-from-running-ads-or-monetizing-on-facebook
[18:22]	TR Bot	 Russian State Media Banned from Running Ads or Monetizing on Facebook
[18:23]	TR News	Wine 7.3 is out, more Joystick fixes and PE conversion http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161863#comment-32914
[18:23]	TR Bot	 The Wine development release 7.3 is now available. | Tux Machines
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[18:31]	TR News	Albion Online getting #gamepad support for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/albion-online-getting-gamepad-support-for-steam-deck/ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games
[18:31]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/albion-online-getting-gamepad-support-for-steam-deck/
[18:31]	TR Bot	Online getting gamepad support for Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
[18:32]	TR News	"There are 2155 capsules. We successfully connected recently to 1760 of them." Still growing fast. gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi
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[18:47]	TR News	#Games: Steam Deck, Chromebooks, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161883 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:47]	TR Bot	 Games: Steam Deck, Chromebooks, and More | Tux Machines
[18:48]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-48.jpg
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[18:55]	TR News	Why has #thunderbird started opening PDF inside Thunderbird itself? I don't want an #email client that's a chameleon pretending to be everything and this isn't even secure
[18:56]	bnchs___	unix philo be like that
[18:56]	bnchs___	a mail client thats also PDF reader
[18:58]	schestowitz-TR	it is quite contrary to unix philosophy 
[18:58]	bnchs___	yes
[18:58]	bnchs___	thunderbird doesn't follow the unix philosophy
[18:59]	bnchs___	that's old shit
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	nescape did not either
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	they combined the browser with email
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	kirtall does both http(s) very basic and gemini
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	among other protocols
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	but there are overlaps
[18:59]	schestowitz-TR	pdf and email or email/client are very different 
[18:59]	bnchs___	it doesn't matter how many protocols you support
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[19:00]	schestowitz-TR	what next? Document editor in the email client?
[19:00]	bnchs___	it matters how many jobs you do
[19:00]	schestowitz-TR	spreadeheets too?
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[19:04]	bnchs___	i like how they congratulate epic games for having half of upcoming games reliant on it's engine
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	proprietary
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	then again, the games usually are
[19:04]	schestowitz-TR	if the engines are at least copyleft, it is progress
[19:04]	bnchs___	the engine is source-available
[19:04]	bnchs___	for unreal engine users
[19:05]	bnchs___	licensed under a EULA
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	proprietary
[19:05]	bnchs___	yes
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	source available is proprietary
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	they have other names for that
[19:05]	schestowitz-TR	all sorts of waffle
[19:05]	bnchs___	they have fees in the EULA
[19:05]	bnchs___	and GPL blacklist
[19:08]	TR News	#gulag now blocking #falkon which is based on #chromium to some extent. #monopoly #gulagIsEvil
[19:15]	TR News	Today #gulag thinks that logging in is suspicious if done from "Linux device." (Their words) "Security alert" (email subject line) sent to me.
[19:17]	MinceR	they also seem to be blocking qutebrowser
[19:18]	bnchs___	yes
[19:18]	bnchs___	they block anything that's not chrome
[19:18]	bnchs___	and windwos
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	bad...
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	and sad..
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	I could show screenshots
[19:18]	schestowitz-TR	but this is not my account
[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	it's a work around
[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	I'd not touch gulkag
[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	it's London Town Hall
[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	*work account
[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	not work around
[19:19]	schestowitz-TR	so I don't want to write an article about this
[19:22]	psydroid2	steve windwozniak
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	does he promote windows?
[19:24]	schestowitz-TR	I did not see that
[19:24]	psydroid2	he doesn't
[19:24]	psydroid2	the full name is steve windwozniak ballmer jobs
[19:30]	TR News	British PL is two-faced BS now. First, they let the blood brother of Putin OWN a large football club. Same for terrorist MbS (NUFC). Second, they say NO POLITICS and FINE Pep over Catalan yellow ribbon, then do the kneeling. And now they say "NO POLITICS" but this whole game was #ukraine activism (watch) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
[19:30]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
[19:30]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Everton vs Manchester City 0-1 Extended Highlights & All Goals 2021 HD - Invidious
[19:31]	TR News	British PL: NO POLITICS!! Except when the powers that be AGREE with your #politics
[19:34]	TR News	British/English PL: we fine Pep for wearing a tiny tiny ribbon without saying a thing of sympathy for his home country/religion. Also British/English PL: We ENCOURAGE a whole team to wear #ukraine shirts. At least be consistent, OK? And don't tell me it's about justice and humanity when Abra and MbS own prestigious football clubs (Chelsea and NUFC).
[19:35]	psydroid2	Visca Catalunya! ! Pep, don't accept this crap!
[19:36]	TR News	British/English PL: We ask all players to kneel as a statement against #racism and we're also OK with a vicious, intolerant, bloodthirsty, religious fanatic who beheads people for "apostasy"... own one of the largest (historically) football clubs. Be consistent, will you?
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[19:53]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22022437
[19:53]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/a00ihryvx6j81.jpg created on 2022-02-24 14:54:02.394448
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[20:16]	TR News	Proprietary and #Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161884 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:16]	TR Bot	 Proprietary and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:16]	TR News	Best #FreeSW Alternatives to Intuit Quickbooks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161885 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:16]	TR Bot	 Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Intuit Quickbooks | Tux Machines
[20:16]	TR News	#Standards and #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161886 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:16]	TR Bot	 Standards and UNIX | Tux Machines
[20:17]	TR News	4 Best Free and Open Source Sound Systems Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161887 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:17]	TR Bot	 4 Best Free and Open Source Sound Systems | Tux Machines
[20:17]	TR News	#Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161888 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:17]	bnchs___	mobile developers make more money not for making games
[20:17]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:17]	bnchs___	but by tricking people into paying money
[20:18]	TR News	#FreeSoftware Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161889 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #freeSW
[20:18]	TR Bot	 Free Software Leftovers | Tux Machines
[20:18]	TR News	12 Simple Tools to Protect Your Privacy Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161890 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:18]	TR Bot	 12 Simple Tools to Protect Your Privacy | Tux Machines
[20:18]	bnchs___	they have a system where they can detect if the player is drunk, and they push out ads
[20:19]	TR News	9 Top Free and Open Source C++ Web Frameworks Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161891 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:19]	TR Bot	 9 Top Free and Open Source C++ Web Frameworks | Tux Machines
[20:24]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/bad-science-jokes-instagram-21.jpg
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[20:24]	TR News	I hope @itsfoss understands that #duckduckgo is just fronting for #microsoft + #nsa (1) and #startpage is owned by #spying company (2) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161891 see [1] http://techrights.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo and [2] http://techrights.org/wiki/Startpage
[20:24]	TR Bot	 DuckDuckGo - Techrights
[20:24]	TR Bot	 Startpage - Techrights
[20:32]	TR News	Links 26/2/2022: Wine 7.3 and Some Linux #Gadget Reviews Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/wine-7-3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/02/26/wine-7-3/
[20:32]	TR Bot	 Links 26/2/2022: Wine 7.3 and Some Linux Gadget Reviews | Techrights
[20:33]	schestowitz	[20:18] <bnchs___> they have a system where they can detect if the player is drunk, and they push out ads
[20:33]	schestowitz	those can be falsely advertised
[20:33]	schestowitz	and many shits like shit (pronounced""shite" for Slack) spy on key presses and mouse movements
[20:33]	schestowitz	but
[20:33]	schestowitz	how would they know if you just work while standing
[20:34]	schestowitz	or reaching out to s distance laptop?
[20:34]	schestowitz	they cannot distinguish
[20:34]	schestowitz	they make false claims
[20:34]	schestowitz	like, "this is what a drunk person would do"
[20:34]	schestowitz	it's like "plgiarism" detectors
[20:34]	schestowitz	or polygraphs
[20:34]	schestowitz	pure BS
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[20:50]	bnchs___	it's not an accurate detection
[20:50]	bnchs___	and it actually based on if the person cannot think straight
[20:50]	bnchs___	or mentally impaired at the moment
[20:50]	bnchs___	they'll push out ads more often at that sate
[20:50]	DaemonFC	Youtube and Facebook have blocked RT from monetizing anything.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	Stallman/Stalin would be most displeased I take it.
[20:51]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, ZDNet actually posted a Linux article that wasn't shit, but it wasn't that useful except to highlight some LKML stuff.
[20:51]	bnchs___	but it's accurate enough
[20:52]	bnchs___	mobile game developers have a "money extraction" department
[20:52]	DaemonFC	Apparently, switching to C11 will unfuck a bunch of things that have been the source of some bugs.
[20:52]	bnchs___	very little whistleblow about this
[20:52]	DaemonFC	It does logically follow that the move to C11 would happen after untangling that headers mess with the 2,000+ patch series.
[20:53]	bnchs___	iirc it can tell if you're gonna be drunk by looking at your purchases
[20:53]	bnchs___	recent purchases of alcohol
[20:53]	bnchs___	btw this is info from a unknown whistleblower who designed this system
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[21:03]	TR News	all money is fake gemini://november.smol.pub/money "Gold was "real money" when we used it, because we all agreed that it was."
[21:04]	bnchs___	yes
[21:04]	bnchs___	money is simply paper
[21:04]	bnchs___	or a integer value on a banking system
[21:04]	bnchs___	floating
[21:06]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGgGmW3bWvI
[21:06]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=qGgGmW3bWvI
[21:06]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Is Putin Controlling Britain's Sex Toys? Russell Howard Investigates - Invidious
[21:06]	TR News	#Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161892 #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:06]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[21:10]	XRevan86	MinceR: Legitimisation of Internet of Shit, just a bit.
[21:11]	MinceR	i don't get it
[21:11]	XRevan86	MinceR: So what that someone can hack into a sextoy? What's the worst that can happen?
[21:11]	MinceR	ic
[21:12]	XRevan86	Is a sextoy botnet used for DDoS the worst that can happen?
[21:13]	schestowitz-TR	is that what vlad calls tanks?
[21:14]	MinceR	lol
[21:15]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Maybe the inflatable ones.
[21:15]	DaemonFC	The tanks the Russians have been sending over are good at a couple of things.
[21:15]	DaemonFC	Running out of diesel fuel and making a very satisfying sound when they blow up.
[21:16]	MinceR	lol
[21:16]	DaemonFC	Putin is basically using a barely-trained slave army for his invasion force.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	Most of them have little or no idea what they're doing.
[21:16]	MinceR	slaves are all he has at home
[21:16]	MinceR	he also has some fuckbuddies and cultists abroad
[21:17]	MinceR	hungarian language irc channels are swarming with his cultists
[21:17]	MinceR	it's depressing
[21:17]	MinceR	humans are an incredibly stupid animal, even if we discount the propaganda they say about themselves
[21:18]	DaemonFC	Mostly their gains have been in territory not worth defending and not defensible. 
[21:18]	DaemonFC	It wouldn't really be logical to engage the Russians out in the open countryside when you can force them into a kill box.
[21:18]	MinceR	it's not logical to engage the russians at all
[21:18]	MinceR	they have thermonuclear ICBMs
[21:18]	DaemonFC	The largest city I've heard that they've captured so far is no bigger than Waukegan, Illinois.
[21:18]	MinceR	so the only logical thing is to glass them in one strike so that they can't respond
[21:19]	XRevan86	MinceR: I thought ye'd say Meatwagons
[21:19]	DaemonFC	And even at that, I've also heard that the locals are still fighting them.
[21:19]	DaemonFC	Putin has bungled this.
[21:19]	MinceR	and it would be best to do the same to red china and north korea at the same time so they can't do anything about it either
[21:19]	DaemonFC	I don't really think the Russians want to fight that much.
[21:20]	MinceR	well, they should have thought about that before they invaded ukraine
[21:20]	DaemonFC	They've been staying about 20 miles from Kyiv and the cowards are just occasionally shelling it or firing missiles at kindergarten children.
[21:20]	XRevan86	Good thing I wasn't conscripted, MinceR would've argued about my thought process as well.
[21:20]	DaemonFC	They're too yellow to pick on someone their own size.
[21:21]	DaemonFC	They attack old women and 5 year olds.
[21:21]	bnchs___	gold is a good currency
[21:21]	bnchs___	since you can also get it from mining
[21:21]	MinceR	one would think ukraine isn't their own size
[21:24]	TR News	Links to #Microsoft boosters' sites, as usual, are perpetuating false claims about Linux http://techrights.org/2022/02/26/proprietary-software-better-avoided/
[21:24]	TR Bot	 CAUTIONARY TALE: Ukraines Story Shows Proprietary Software Ought to be Avoided | Techrights
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[21:25]	mynameisnobody	Hi
[21:25]	SomeH4x0r	hi
[21:26]	CrystalMath	MinceR: Orbn put sanctions against russia
[21:26]	schestowitz-TR	hi
[21:26]	MinceR	oh, wow
[21:26]	MinceR	the sanctions!
[21:26]	MinceR	i'm sure putler is quaking in his boots
[21:26]	MinceR	the NATO and the EU have gone from sternly worded warnings to... sanctions!
[21:26]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: I showed you 2 links this morning
[21:26]	schestowitz-TR	about refugees
[21:26]	schestowitz-TR	is that accurate?
[21:26]	CrystalMath	MinceR: that doesn't tell me he's pro-Putin
[21:26]	MinceR	dunno
[21:27]	MinceR	CrystalMath: he's trying to be both pro-NATO and pro-putler
[21:27]	MinceR	which is an untenable position, so he's hoping that things de-escalate soon
[21:27]	schestowitz-TR	hungary third
[21:27]	MinceR	but things won't de-escalate soon
[21:27]	schestowitz-TR	trump and putin shared a first
[21:27]	schestowitz-TR	with biden (so-called 'liberal'') one can imagine who orban demoted
[21:28]	psydroid2	latest decree: no more bananas are to be exported to Russia to sustain the banana republic
[21:28]	MinceR	and with his affair with putler he compromised hungary's relationship with the NATO, which may well mean that putler will be able to annex hungary without retaliation
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	true
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	or moldova
[21:28]	CrystalMath	MinceR: no, attacking a NATO country would be WW3
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	someone told me moldova, then romania
[21:28]	CrystalMath	and russia does not want that
[21:28]	MinceR	former president Super Callous Fragile Racist Sexist Nazi Potus was just a proxy for putler anyway
[21:28]	CrystalMath	nobody wants that
[21:28]	schestowitz-TR	opr lithuania and finland
[21:28]	CrystalMath	schestowitz-TR: that's crazy
[21:28]	CrystalMath	but then again, i was wrong last time
[21:29]	MinceR	CrystalMath: what if said NATO country is known to be a spy for 12 years and spent those years attempting to undermine the NATO?
[21:29]	schestowitz-TR	he already has belarus
[21:29]	MinceR	what if said NATO country isn't really important to any of the other NATO members?
[21:29]	schestowitz-TR	he just wants puppet regime
[21:29]	MinceR	what if said NATO country is allied with the enemy and everyone knows this?
[21:29]	CrystalMath	belarus is the most free country in europe
[21:29]	MinceR	lol
[21:30]	CrystalMath	no mask mandates, no vaccine mandates
[21:30]	MinceR	do you have more jokes like that?
[21:30]	CrystalMath	if i was there, i would be 5% freer
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	after romania putin can recapture the balkan, CrystalMath
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	one hop away
[21:30]	CrystalMath	schestowitz-TR: if Putin comes here, it would be very unexpected to me, but i'll greet his people with flowers
[21:30]	MinceR	just don't insult lukashenka or you'll abduct you while you're on a plane trip and torture you until you become a public lukashenka supporter
[21:30]	MinceR	you know, freedom
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	[21:30] <CrystalMath> schestowitz-TR: if Putin comes here, it would be very unexpected to me, but i'll greet his people with flowers
[21:30]	schestowitz-TR	they will greet you with tanks
[21:30]	MinceR	s/you'/he'/
[21:30]	MinceR	they will greet you with rape
[21:31]	schestowitz-TR	going atop cars
[21:31]	CrystalMath	support for putin here is huge
[21:31]	CrystalMath	there is nobody to fight back against a russian invasion
[21:31]	CrystalMath	the vast majority is pro-russian
[21:31]	psydroid2	tanks rape cars
[21:31]	CrystalMath	and think our government isn't pro-russian enough
[21:31]	CrystalMath	so no need to run over anyone
[21:31]	CrystalMath	i heard people singing the russian anthem earlier
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[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	"he's coming to pick us up"
[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	CrystalMath:  go buy lengerie
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[21:32]	schestowitz-TR	*lingerie 
[21:32]	MinceR	slavery is so "hip" and "cool"
[21:33]	schestowitz-TR	I'm sure Russia wants what's best for the Serbs
[21:33]	MinceR	oh, and "libertarian"
[21:33]	MinceR	schestowitz-TR: and the serbs will give it to him, too!
[21:33]	psydroid2	they are proud of Russians for importing South Slavic words and names such as Vladimir
[21:33]	bnchs___	did they make the russian sancations again
[21:33]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz-TR> or moldova
[21:33]	bnchs___	can't wait for github to ban russia
[21:33]	DaemonFC	Moldova would be a relatively easy and safer next phase.
[21:33]	MinceR	lol
[21:33]	MinceR	does putler even know what shithub is?
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	bnchs___: github only bans arabs
[21:34]	psydroid2	rushub
[21:34]	schestowitz-TR	it's usland
[21:34]	DaemonFC	They could knock that out pretty quickly and it's still not EU or NATO.
[21:34]	psydroid2	what is github?
[21:34]	DaemonFC	So thoughts and prayers.
[21:34]	bnchs___	i use github via tor anyway
[21:34]	MinceR	we're beyond thoughts and prayers
[21:34]	psydroid2	some cheap knockoff of the real thing from Russia
[21:34]	MinceR	such justly feared and highly effective weapons were already deployed as 1) condemnations and 2) sanctions!
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	and football
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	with shirts on
[21:35]	schestowitz-TR	[19:30] <techrights-news> British PL is two-faced BS now. First, they let the blood brother of Putin OWN a large football club. Same for terrorist MbS (NUFC). Second, they say NO POLITICS and FINE Pep over Catalan yellow ribbon, then do the kneeling. And now they say "NO POLITICS" but this whole game was #ukraine activism (watch) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
[21:35]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0
[21:35]	TR Bot	( status 500 @ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jWGwwwELMm0 )
[21:35]	MinceR	multiple leaders have said that europe won't sell to russia technology that they're buying from red china to begin with.
[21:35]	MinceR	much of which i suspect they don't even produce in europe.
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	they produce PAREBTS
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	PATENTS
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	they said
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	on the 18th of Feb
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	pushing FRAND and shit
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	while boosting EPO crimes
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	they think they can prevent china producing things...using patents?
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	Will they fly rockets with lawyers on them to beijing?
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	i don't condone
[21:36]	schestowitz-TR	but then again
[21:37]	MinceR	they can ask the government of red china to ban corporations owned by itself from producing products that infringe on their patents
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	those lawyers might not survive
[21:37]	MinceR	i'm sure it will work.
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	maybe the latter is best for both woirld
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	no lawyers here, none in china
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: ban encryption!!
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	No "export" of code
[21:37]	schestowitz-TR	china will never manage to copy some c files!
[21:38]	MinceR	lol
[21:38]	bnchs___	i don't get the approved encryption shi
[21:38]	bnchs___	encryption is simply math
[21:38]	MinceR	the idea is that only outlaws will have encryption
[21:38]	bnchs___	you don't need a country to tell you whether you can export MATH
[21:38]	MinceR	and the sociopaths get to monitor everyone's life closely
[21:38]	DaemonFC	Russia won't encounter any serious international resistance until they attack a NATO member.
[21:38]	bnchs___	and thats the problem with openssl
[21:38]	MinceR	they won't sleep well if they don't know what your anus looked like yesterday.
[21:38]	DaemonFC	I think this whole thing reeks of Putin trying to grab what he thinks he can get now.
[21:39]	bnchs___	do i care when a country doesn't want me to export MATH
[21:39]	DaemonFC	But it's already damaged the Russian economy more than what they can get is worth.
[21:39]	MinceR	putler doesn't care
[21:39]	MinceR	putler's fan club doesn't care
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	[21:38] <DaemonFC> Russia won't encounter any serious international resistance until they attack a NATO member.
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	and then what?
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	we won't nuke them
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	not worth it
[21:39]	DaemonFC	Article V in theory.
[21:39]	CrystalMath	DaemonFC: ukrainians were killing people in donbass for 8 years
[21:39]	MinceR	people like CrystalMath will not only sacrifice everyone else, they'll sacrifice _themselves_ to benefit putler
[21:39]	schestowitz-TR	in theory, never tested
[21:40]	MinceR	humanity has reached peak self-destructiveness
[21:41]	CrystalMath	MinceR: i know that the west cannot offer personal freedoms
[21:41]	schestowitz-TR	so serbian is like the people in the alien movies
[21:41]	schestowitz-TR	"come save us, come save us"
[21:41]	CrystalMath	schestowitz-TR: no, not really
[21:41]	schestowitz-TR	and then a laser beam fries them
[21:41]	schestowitz-TR	turns out the aliens aren't so friendly"
[21:41]	CrystalMath	we just believe that russians are our brothers
[21:41]	MinceR	CrystalMath: yeah, i know, the only personal freedoms are 1) the right not to wear a mask and 2) the right not to be vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2
[21:41]	CrystalMath	and our allies
[21:42]	schestowitz-TR	CrystalMath: you believes
[21:42]	CrystalMath	but we don't like our own government
[21:42]	schestowitz-TR	Russia loves Serbian
[21:42]	schestowitz-TR	Microsoft loves Linux
[21:42]	CrystalMath	we never like our own government for some reason..
[21:42]	MinceR	who gives a shit about freedom of speech, or the right to own property, or the right to the privacy of your home, or the right to the fruits of your own labor, or freedom of movement
[21:42]	schestowitz-TR	russians are the same
[21:42]	schestowitz-TR	but they cannot vote out the lunatic
[21:42]	schestowitz-TR	they don't even have free speech
[21:42]	CrystalMath	MinceR: those are all great, except for the last one which has to be limited by other people's property
[21:43]	schestowitz-TR	so they aren't capable of knowing what goes on
[21:43]	MinceR	CrystalMath: i think you need to get help, this obsession is unhealthy
[21:43]	schestowitz-TR	putin loves serbian or serbian people like Microsoft likes Linux and Linus Torvalds
[21:43]	schestowitz-TR	*serbia
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	you are just a potental resource to them
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	to tap on
[21:44]	schestowitz-TR	like Puerto Ricans to Washington
[21:44]	MinceR	sounds like they've found each other's interests
[21:45]	MinceR	putler wants more land and more slaves
[21:45]	MinceR	serbs want to contribute more land and to become slaves
[21:46]	CrystalMath	for example, it's a very common opinion here, that the only reason why we haven't put sanctions on russia is because of the election in april
[21:46]	XRevan86	Putin for President of Serbia! Ye can take him.
[21:46]	CrystalMath	simply, if you put sanctions on russia, you become unelectable
[21:46]	CrystalMath	but our government is known to be pro-china
[21:46]	CrystalMath	they got chinese cops to patrol our streets, even
[21:47]	MinceR	i think the serbian elections were timed for 3 april so that the OSCE will have to divide its resources between hungary and serbia
[21:47]	schestowitz-TR	sounds so plausible that it's almost amusing
[21:48]	schestowitz-TR	Microsoft and EPO have often timed things toi conflict
[21:48]	schestowitz-TR	to distract from something
[21:48]	MinceR	not that the OSCE was in any particular hurry to keep an eye on hungarian elections since 2010
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	MinceR: they should look at the ringleaders
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	the elections are held in another country
[21:49]	schestowitz-TR	the handler
[21:50]	CrystalMath	MinceR: apparently there's a convoy in belgrade in support of russia
[21:51]	CrystalMath	with russian flags
[21:51]	MinceR	maybe they ran out of serbian flags
[21:51]	schestowitz-TR	reminds me of north macedonia
[21:52]	MinceR	are their russian flags upside down?
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	and citzens carryng albanian falgs
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	in effect carrying flags of a foreign nation
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	asif they want to live somewhere else or be invaded
[21:52]	schestowitz-TR	which to me seems like the definition of treason
[21:52]	CrystalMath	schestowitz-TR: yep, but they don't secede because NM treats them well
[21:52]	CrystalMath	it doesn't shell its own people like ukraine does
[21:53]	XRevan86	CrystalMath: Any Novorussia Conferedation (that never came to be) flags in there?
[21:53]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 37.78 k/sec., IPFS upstream 48.50 average k/sec., average swarm size 272.56
[21:53]	MinceR	seriously, how many organizations does russia need to keep countries it's itching to annex in?
[21:53]	MinceR	there's the eurasian union, there's some bullshit with belarus
[21:53]	MinceR	there's the CIS
[21:54]	XRevan86	It's 2015 stuff, doesn't really matter, except the flag is https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/War_flag_of_Novorussia.svg
[21:54]	Alternative link	Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/War_flag_of_Novorussia.svg
[21:54]	kingoffrance	i think that is how multipolar looks MinceR :D
[21:54]	MinceR	lol
[21:54]	MinceR	yeah, multiple poles, but every one of them is just russia
[21:55]	XRevan86	This demands a Forrest Gump reference
[21:55]	kingoffrance	you can have any color as long as its black
[21:55]	MinceR	lol @ flag
[21:55]	MinceR	"oh shit, we forgot the stars on our slave-driver flag"
[21:55]	DaemonFC	At least with the Ukraine thing, CNN is still finding time to publish "White Americans hate black men for no reason." articles.
[21:55]	DaemonFC	So that's nice.
[21:55]	DaemonFC	Stirring the shit.
[21:56]	MinceR	maybe they have dedicated people for that
[21:56]	MinceR	or a program
[21:56]	DaemonFC	A program could do it.
[21:56]	DaemonFC	Just toss in the usual buzzwords.
[21:56]	CrystalMath	XRevan86: nope, i don't know if they know about it
[21:57]	XRevan86	MinceR, CrystalMath: https://youtu.be/lNGnrO3thMY <- multipolar shrimps
[21:57]	TR Bot	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lNGnrO3thMY
[21:57]	TR Bot	yewtu.be | Forrest Gump - Bubba shrimp scene - Invidious
[21:57]	DaemonFC	MinceR, It's basically the same story every day.
[21:57]	DaemonFC	They have to remind you that all White people are evil.
[21:57]	MinceR	maybe they have a form in their CMS
[21:57]	CrystalMath	DaemonFC: maybe in the west they really are
[21:58]	MinceR	"create new whites vs blacks article"
[21:58]	XRevan86	?t=150
[21:58]	MinceR	just fill in a few fields, and bam! ready.
[21:58]	CrystalMath	i mean, i've talked to many... they all support horrible massacres commited by ukrainians
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[22:06]	CrystalMath	MinceR: serbia would have been *very* different, i'm quite sure, if NATO hadn't bombed civilians and cities that have nothing to do with the kosovo conflict
[22:07]	MinceR	i'm quite sure serbia wouldn't have been bombed by the NATO if serbs weren't so keen on committing war crimes
[22:08]	CrystalMath	MinceR: the problem is that NATO thinks that justifies killing innocent civilians
[22:08]	CrystalMath	bombing hospitals, etc...
[22:18]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2202247
[22:18]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/yihfv2g51qi81.gif created on 2022-02-24 02:05:12.276841
[22:22]	DaemonFC	The Serbs were just going in, taking over people's houses, raping the womenfolk.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	I mean, nothing bad, right?
[22:22]	DaemonFC	That happens in America.
[22:22]	DaemonFC	CNN apologizes for the people doing it.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	MinceR, There's one woman that's been evicted over 16 times since 1980 from houses she's squatted in, in Illinois.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	Every time one owner manages to get her out of a vacant house she's managed to stay in for 18 months or so (it's a civil process), she does it again.
[22:24]	DaemonFC	I don't know of a place more screwed up than Illinois, on a legal front, except maybe in Europe.
[22:42]	CrystalMath	DaemonFC: wait what? no
[22:43]	CrystalMath	DaemonFC: the things you are talking about now is the serbian republic, that's not the NATO operation i'm referring to
[22:43]	CrystalMath	i'm referring to 1999
[22:43]	CrystalMath	serbia did not do any of those things
[22:43]	CrystalMath	rather, there was action against separatists in kosovo
[22:44]	CrystalMath	and it wasn't as diabolical as ukraine's action against separatists, tbh
[22:48]	OneBTS	Putin needs to put the USSR back together again. He deserves it!
[22:48]	DaemonFC	I'm trying to set up Mandy's new iPhone.
[22:48]	DaemonFC	Everything is so confusing and unintuitive.
[22:49]	XRevan86	OneBTS: The founding states will be Russia, Belarus', the quasi republics and Serbia?
[22:49]	DaemonFC	Apple doesn't even move your text messages over automatically.
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[22:53]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/2202242
[22:53]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/pwg70rmuani81.jpg created on 2022-02-24 00:37:30.805125
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[22:55]	MinceR	'in 2001 a United Nations administered Supreme Court, based in Kosovo, found that there had been "a systematic campaign of terror, including murders, rapes, arsons and severe maltreatments"'
[22:55]	MinceR	but who cares about that
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[23:03]	psydroid8	CrystalMath, how did the genocides in Bosnia and Herzegovina start?
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[23:23]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2202245
[23:23]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/fsyz2cgii7j81.jpg created on 2022-02-24 01:13:38.858455
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[23:59]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Coke has been doing a very expensive ad campaign in "sponsored content" stories for a new product.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	And now it's popping up ads on Walmart self-checkouts too.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	THey're in serious trouble.
[23:59]	DaemonFC	Not just because of the bad economy and price hikes, but because of their racism.