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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Jun 26 00:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Captain Obvious Bot | Jun 26 00:04 |
| MinceR | :) | Jun 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | google ruinwd youtube | Jun 26 00:06 |
| schestowitz | ruined | Jun 26 00:06 |
| schestowitz | it would not even open without JS | Jun 26 00:06 |
| schestowitz | as of months ago | Jun 26 00:06 |
| insmodppa | Many sites these days won't work without JS. Not that it matters since they're all state corp data mining ops and should be avoided in the first place. | Jun 26 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/06/25/irs-stimulus-checks-dead-people-gao/ | Jun 26 00:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | More than 1 million coronavirus stimulus checks went to dead people according to GAO - The Washington Post | Jun 26 00:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Those dead people are very stimulated by their $1,200 checks. | Jun 26 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure the several million living people who still don't know where theirs is love that. | Jun 26 00:16 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll be stimulated enough to vote for twitler | Jun 26 00:18 |
| MinceR | just you wait! | Jun 26 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I filed bankruptcy with mine. | Jun 26 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Our president set a fine example. | Jun 26 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That alone is just a mosquito bite for the banks, but when tons of people flock to bankruptcy court at once it won't be. | Jun 26 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It looks like there's going to be over 80 bankruptcy filings today in the Northern District of Illinois. | Jun 26 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The pace is not slowing down. | Jun 26 00:20 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It looks like we'll blow past all of last year's bankruptcy filings by the middle of August or so if this stays about level with where it is now. | Jun 26 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I got rushed through the questions because the Trustee was running behind and overdue for his lunch. | Jun 26 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We got to listen to a bunch of stuff including a guy who put his business in Chapter 11 because he was prototyping some new technique for drilling for oil and then all of his investors started pulling out at once in January. | Jun 26 00:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Trustee said "How is that the fault of the Coronavirus? It wasn't a problem here until February or March.". | Jun 26 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | My phone was still on mute and I said, "I don't know. Maybe investors are smarter than you.". | Jun 26 00:30 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "They see something killing everyone in China while a big Amazon Alexa says stay in your house and they all scram and take their money.". | Jun 26 00:31 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 26 00:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://people.com/celebrity/carly-simon-reveals-she-had-sexual-encounters-with-an-older-boy-when-she-was-7/ | Jun 26 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Carly Simon Reveals She Had Sexual Encounters with an Older Boy When She Was 7 | PEOPLE.com | Jun 26 00:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Uh, nice job making her sound like a hoebag. She was raped by a teenager. | Jun 26 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the fuck wrote this? | Jun 26 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump is the worst thing that has ever happened to America, and it's getting harder and harder to measure these things. He's been worse for this country than 9/11. | Jun 26 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People were furious that a bunch of Arabs killed 2,000 people. We're still losing 4-5 times that a week to a virus and we're getting ready to go into the fourth month. | Jun 26 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's filling auditoriums with a bunch of people where death by Coronavirus is the only thing that might stop them from foisting him on us again. The government said they were pursuing bioterror charges against people for saying they'd spread it and he's putting 50,000 people in a stadium together with no masks on and getting them to howl and cheer (for what?). | Jun 26 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The stadium in Arizona actually was packed, but you never know with political campaigns. Sometimes they bus people in to fill seats and pay them to sit there. | Jun 26 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bush did it with his "Social Security Reform Tour" and had people beaten up and thrown out for asking questions like "How are all the old people supposed to live?". | Jun 26 00:43 |
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| MinceR | for neofascism, of course | Jun 26 00:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | One guy actually had one of his business's creditors show up, but nobody else did. Including me. | Jun 26 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This lady grilled him though, like "Did you ever sell any gift cards and how many are still out there?". | Jun 26 00:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes, weird headline about Simon | Jun 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | "Sexual Encounters" seems like the wrong term | Jun 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Floyd has a physical encounter with Minneapolis police | Jun 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | Nina had an encounter with Hans Reiser | Jun 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | ISIS had some encounters in Paris | Jun 26 00:52 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n74_IiLAUs | Jun 26 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Jun 26 00:52 | |
| MinceR | thanks, TechrightsBot-tr! | Jun 26 00:53 |
| MinceR | the actual title: Let's Listen - Memento Mori II - Frivolous Encounter | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: just sound | Jun 26 00:53 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bots age poorly | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | not well | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | as the sites 'evolve' | Jun 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | Lots of things I used to do with youtube no longer work.. since months ago | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | afaik, this bot code is used only by us | Jun 26 00:54 |
| schestowitz | tony manco wrote it, iirc | Jun 26 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they broke it in WebkitGTK, so they had to flip that HTTP Live Streaming crap on. | Jun 26 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In a point release with barely any testing, because Youtube needs it for no legitimate reason now. | Jun 26 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | HTTP Live Streaming really sucks balls on a slow connection. | Jun 26 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your connection will have a slight issue and the fucking video just goes straight back to the beginning and you have to start the whole thing over and it's just awful. | Jun 26 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose if you're on a porn site, literally, you have to restart the fucking video. | Jun 26 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or do you have to restart the fucking fucking video? | Jun 26 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really liked that Avenue Q "The Internet is for Porn" thing. They forgot MP3s. | Jun 26 00:58 |
| superkuh | When you download mp3s you're downloading communism. | Jun 26 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Literally, since the format is in the public domain and Technocolor is in Chapter 15 bankruptcy. B-) | Jun 26 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *Technicolor | Jun 26 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also in France, a cessation de la something or other. | Jun 26 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know. They're French. | Jun 26 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nagahema Nagahema ---- Ehhhh, not gonna work here anymore. | Jun 26 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm just happy that the MP3 patent train wreck is finally over. | Jun 26 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was terrible. Richard Stallman commented on how terrible it was. At one point it was the dominant format for internet distribution of music and it still kind of is, and you couldn't even make a player that was gratis or libre to play them and give it to someone without Technicolor and Fraunhofer knocking down your door with lawyers. | Jun 26 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say that in many ways, despite the shitty bitstream format, the current release of LAME makes Ogg Vorbis sort of a moot point. | Jun 26 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At least the reference Vorbis, which is all anyone ever seems to package for Linux, unfortunately. | Jun 26 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MP3 is deficient, but not in a way where you're likely to notice that, with a modern LAME release. | Jun 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LAME improved quite a lot in 3.98 and even more in 3.99. | Jun 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A staggering amount, really. Turning MP3's inventor's white paper saying AAC would be twice as efficient someday, into a big joke. | Jun 26 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I still think DOS was a very underrated system. | Jun 26 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How stupid it was, was actually its best feature. | Jun 26 01:16 |
| MinceR | indeed | Jun 26 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You could extend it to do anything, so it really didn't matter much. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| MinceR | that's what enabled loadlin.exe to work | Jun 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or DOOM. Or, hell, some word processors, or an MP3 player why not. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Web browsers. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Doom, MP3, and web browser. | Jun 26 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's like 90% of what you need a computer for anyway. | Jun 26 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oddly, the ISO demo MP3 encoder had support for DOS and Linux, but it was just as broken as it was anywhere else. | Jun 26 01:19 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: so what next for us of a? | Jun 26 01:49 |
| schestowitz | Not just US | Jun 26 01:49 |
| schestowitz | but US seems worse off than most | Jun 26 01:49 |
| schestowitz | debt and leadership, firearms and militias, divided society and massive wealth gaps | Jun 26 01:49 |
| *schestowitz doesn't think biden would tackle any of these issues, either | Jun 26 01:50 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > * <@freenode_schestowitz:matrix.org> doesn't think biden would tackle any of these issues, either | Jun 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, but he will be a vent for people who think things can be normal again. | Jun 26 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I see him as a sort of Jimmy Carter reset after the Nixon scandals. | Jun 26 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He may very well have a blowout victory that lasts one term. | Jun 26 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People saw Carter as a refreshing reset to normal after the country was scandal plagued and rocked by war, inflation, recession and all sorts of nasty things. | Jun 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | same as Thatcher at the time | Jun 26 02:10 |
| schestowitz | her and Mr. Hollywood | Jun 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | people dumbed down since | Jun 26 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What many people don't really talk about is that Nixon really mismanaged the war in Vietnam and it was something he didn't end quickly enough or pursue to the point of defeating the North Vietnamese. | Jun 26 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that was a massive failure. | Jun 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | as if the goal wasn't US or UK excellence but rapid passage of power and wealth to few people | Jun 26 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He didn't pick a lane and we lost, and lost badly. | Jun 26 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, there's just too many groups right now that have had quite enough of Trump and want him gone. | Jun 26 02:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The war hawks want rid of him. John Bolton has started slinging all of the mud he can get. | Jun 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what are your (you and Mandy's) longterm plans? | Jun 26 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats hate Trump obviously. | Jun 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | each iteration of presidency gets worse | Jun 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | I reckon Trump isn't going away this year or next year in Jan | Jun 26 02:14 |
| schestowitz | he'll play dirty | Jun 26 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Survive this, hopefully. Get out of Illinois. | Jun 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries | Jun 26 02:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 9,702,189 Cases and 490,987 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer | Jun 26 02:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bankruptcy really helps. | Jun 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | 40,184 new cases | Jun 26 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John got it worse than I did. Serves him right. | Jun 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | 40,184 new cases of COVID-19 in one day in US. New record. In late June even! | Jun 26 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He figured he'd lie to the cops and use them as muscle to get me out of that house and that I'd go quietly. | Jun 26 02:16 |
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| schestowitz | 1,118 new cases in UK | Jun 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | ANNNND... | Jun 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | we aren't even doing well | Jun 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | compared to Europe | Jun 26 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, watch Arizona. That packed Trump rally was yesterday. | Jun 26 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Arizona is already the second worst hit state by population density right now. | Jun 26 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then the RNC and Trump are doing lots of stuff in Florida later. | Jun 26 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I've got a great idea! You know how people fucking hate me? Let's kill the people who still like me!" | Jun 26 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the swing states too! | Jun 26 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His campaign figures it's a calculated risk. | Jun 26 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He can do nothing and he definitely loses, or he can hope that he doesn't kill so many people who attended his rallies that it moves the needle more than the number of voters it kills. | Jun 26 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's really, frankly, all this is. | Jun 26 02:20 |
| schestowitz | AZ is on the border | Jun 26 02:25 |
| schestowitz | so.. | Jun 26 02:25 |
| schestowitz | no need to say much more | Jun 26 02:26 |
| schestowitz | xenophobic policies and all | Jun 26 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's also Leaning Biden right now. | Jun 26 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He hopes he can fire up the crazies and reverse that somewhat. | Jun 26 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course the way this backfires is he throws gas on the fire there and even more old people die. | Jun 26 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a state full of old people. | Jun 26 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/political/illinois-gun-permit-applications-soar-500-frightened-liberals-embrace-2nd-amendment | Jun 26 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Illinois Gun Permit Applications Soar 500% As Frightened Liberals Embrace 2nd Amendment | Zero Hedge | Jun 26 02:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jun 26 02:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +40,184 | Jun 26 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck a duck. | Jun 26 02:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, half of it is in 4 states, including one where Trump will have the RNC and Disney World is reopening. | Jun 26 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Second Wave Accomplished. | Jun 26 02:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's bad already. It will get worse, because Floriduh is led my someone who is a Trump anal polyp who doesn't realize he doesn't need a permission slip to run a state. | Jun 26 02:33 |
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| schestowitz | [02:33] <DaemonFC[m]> Second Wave Accomplished. | Jun 26 04:58 |
| schestowitz | bigger than I ever expected | Jun 26 04:58 |
| schestowitz | I am not sure the first one ever stopped in the US | Jun 26 04:58 |
| schestowitz | this is first wave resumes | Jun 26 04:58 |
| schestowitz | as they prematurely reopen | Jun 26 04:58 |
| schestowitz | spreading the illness quadratically | Jun 26 04:58 |
| schestowitz | "elect a clown expect a circus" becomes "elect a clown, get a crown" (corona) | Jun 26 04:59 |
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| *Now talking on #techrights | Jun 26 05:16 | |
| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Jun 26 05:16 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Jun 26 05:16 | |
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| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: very few of them will actually die | Jun 26 05:47 |
| CrystalMath | maybe hundreds, but that means nothing on the grand scale of things | Jun 26 05:47 |
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| schestowitz | cybrNaut: in the US about a million recovered or were released, whereas 124k died | Jun 26 07:31 |
| schestowitz | that's hardly a good recovery rate | Jun 26 07:31 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: ^^ | Jun 26 07:31 |
| CrystalMath | if you believe that only a million recovered | Jun 26 07:32 |
| CrystalMath | this virus spreads far beyond anyone's ability to test for it | Jun 26 07:32 |
| CrystalMath | if you look at studies of antibody testing | Jun 26 07:32 |
| CrystalMath | you will see that the true number of infected was an order of magnitude, maybe two, above the number of those who were found | Jun 26 07:33 |
| CrystalMath | it's extremely easy and worthwhile to hide the virus if you're not in danger | Jun 26 07:33 |
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| schestowitz | you're referring to a study from NYC/NYC, where many died get it, get tested for it, and many died without being tested at all (hence not accounted for) | Jun 26 07:43 |
| schestowitz | Good luck telling South Korea of Norway that there are loads of people there with covid-19 who don't know about it | Jun 26 07:43 |
| schestowitz | *or | Jun 26 07:43 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: really we are having a horrible learning curve with covid-19. Australia is moving on to a new method. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-17/australia-to-test-sewage-for-coronairus-as-testing-net-widens/12156858 | Jun 26 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Australia to test sewage for coronavirus as testing net widens - ABC News | Jun 26 08:39 | |
| oiaohm | Major cities you want to test and locate covid how many people are not using the cities sewage system. | Jun 26 08:40 |
| schestowitz | this is from Aptil | Jun 26 09:02 |
| schestowitz | April | Jun 26 09:02 |
| schestowitz | Still valid? | Jun 26 09:02 |
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| oiaohm | schestowitz: yes that April one is valid. https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/202006/2001628_COVID-19_COVID-19%20suburban%20testing%20blitz.pdf They are moving on to area blitz testing of course not repeating exactly all the details how they decide where to biltz test. | Jun 26 12:04 |
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| schestowitz | oiaohm: OK, cheers | Jun 26 12:57 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20022712 | Jun 26 13:00 |
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| scientes | MinceR, genius | Jun 26 15:03 |
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| XRevan86 | http://poorlydrawnlines.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/made-it-598x1024.png | Jun 26 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | The next macOS will be 11.0. Huh. | Jun 26 17:52 |
| XRevan86 | Is it because of ARM? | Jun 26 17:55 |
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| CrystalMath | http://techrights.org/2020/05/30/open-letter-to-gnu-maintainers/ <- nice! | Jun 26 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Burning the House That Richard Stallman (RMS) Built: An Open Letter to GNU Maintainers Who Opposed RMS | Techrights | Jun 26 18:39 | |
| CrystalMath | i wish there was no hard dependency on the Trump hate train | Jun 26 18:42 |
| CrystalMath | but oh well | Jun 26 18:43 |
| CrystalMath | also, what is GIAFAM? | Jun 26 18:47 |
| MinceR | not everyone who supports free software is a neofascist? what a shocker. | Jun 26 18:48 |
| CrystalMath | well we disagree on whose side Trump is | Jun 26 18:48 |
| MinceR | of course | Jun 26 18:48 |
| CrystalMath | i believe Trump is fighting the greatest fascists | Jun 26 18:48 |
| CrystalMath | which are represented by Biden | Jun 26 18:48 |
| CrystalMath | the globalists | Jun 26 18:48 |
| MinceR | some people believe trump is on the side of the people whom he regularly idolizes | Jun 26 18:48 |
| MinceR | others believe those are the only times when he lies | Jun 26 18:49 |
| MinceR | or maybe he's just kidding | Jun 26 18:49 |
| CrystalMath | Trump isn't a globalist thuogh | Jun 26 18:49 |
| CrystalMath | and globalism is the greatest threat | Jun 26 18:49 |
| MinceR | yeah, neither are the other neofascists | Jun 26 18:49 |
| CrystalMath | there is no greater fascism than globalism | Jun 26 18:49 |
| CrystalMath | nothing is more disgusting, nor vile | Jun 26 18:49 |
| MinceR | "no, you are the fascists!" | Jun 26 18:49 |
| *MinceR yawns | Jun 26 18:50 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What is globalism? | Jun 26 18:50 |
| MinceR | don't expect to find out, ever | Jun 26 18:50 |
| CrystalMath | the belief in a global system of law, justice, defense, etc... | Jun 26 18:50 |
| CrystalMath | i believe in actual freedom, individual freedom | Jun 26 18:51 |
| MinceR | ah yes, actual individual freedom, as seen in dump's favorite places, north korea and russia | Jun 26 18:52 |
| CrystalMath | or in Biden's china? | Jun 26 18:53 |
| CrystalMath | or maybe biden's ukraine? | Jun 26 18:53 |
| CrystalMath | individual freedoms are not achieved by having a strong unified state, but by being decentralized | Jun 26 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | The European Court of Human Rights keeps finding local Russian rulings illegal, that is very annoying. | Jun 26 18:53 |
| XRevan86 | We don't believe in Human Rights, we believe in Sovereignty! | Jun 26 18:54 |
| XRevan86 | With Putin as Sovereign, of course. | Jun 26 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | the european court of bullcrap and propaganda | Jun 26 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | the entire european union is trash | Jun 26 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | why do you think FSFE behaves the way they did? | Jun 26 18:55 |
| MinceR | biden owns china now? | Jun 26 18:55 |
| MinceR | very interesting | Jun 26 18:55 |
| CrystalMath | no, biden's favorite is china | Jun 26 18:55 |
| CrystalMath | and ukraine | Jun 26 18:55 |
| XRevan86 | It's really hard to appeal to it, they're pretty overwhelmed and annoyed by how Russia pisses on their judgement. | Jun 26 18:55 |
| MinceR | also, i didn't know russia and north korea were decentralized | Jun 26 18:55 |
| CrystalMath | russia sorta is | Jun 26 18:55 |
| MinceR | ah, so biden being evil magically turns trump into a good person | Jun 26 18:56 |
| MinceR | it's funny how things work in the two-party universe | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | but there is a lesser of two evils | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | it's not biden | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | biden is behind the entire 90s american establishment | Jun 26 18:56 |
| XRevan86 | if it's not biden and it's not trump… | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | they invented SJWs | Jun 26 18:56 |
| MinceR | the 90s american establishment didn't fuck things up as hard as trump did | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | yes they did | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | they were the worst | Jun 26 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | how many wars did Trump start? | Jun 26 18:57 |
| CrystalMath | what's the net number of soldiers deployed/returned, Trump vs. Clinton? | Jun 26 18:57 |
| MinceR | how many people died because of trump? | Jun 26 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | basically nobody | Jun 26 18:58 |
| MinceR | [citation needed] | Jun 26 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | okay what's your number? | Jun 26 18:58 |
| MinceR | i don't have a number, but it's probably a lot | Jun 26 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | based on what? | Jun 26 18:58 |
| MinceR | considering how he "handled" the current plague | Jun 26 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | the current cold? | Jun 26 18:59 |
| MinceR | no, not the cold | Jun 26 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | yes, the common cold known as COVID-19? | Jun 26 18:59 |
| XRevan86 | Didn't Trump threaten DPRK with war? | Jun 26 18:59 |
| MinceR | is that the new name of COVID-19 then? | Jun 26 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | Trump was the first president in a long time to go to NK and make deals | Jun 26 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | he didn't handle the iranian thing very well, though | Jun 26 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | this is because of his flaw - he's one of the religion-brainwashed americans who love israel | Jun 26 19:00 |
| XRevan86 | Didn't he give Palestine a kick? | Jun 26 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | yes :( | Jun 26 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | an atheist version of Trump would be much better | Jun 26 19:01 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: anyway, you know my opinion on viruses, people dying is natural | Jun 26 19:01 |
| XRevan86 | the most smartest and atheistist | Jun 26 19:01 |
| MinceR | well, then let's kill them all | Jun 26 19:01 |
| MinceR | it's only natural | Jun 26 19:01 |
| CrystalMath | it is, but let's not :) | Jun 26 19:01 |
| CrystalMath | i think there is something in between | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | wanting to kill everyone | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | and wanting to save everyone | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | and that's just letting individuals decide for themselves | Jun 26 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | Is it natural to grab more and more new viruses from other animals? | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | yews | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | *yes | Jun 26 19:02 |
| XRevan86 | it's like saying farming is natural | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | look, this isn't the first time a coronavirus went from bats to civets to humans | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | it happens all the time | Jun 26 19:02 |
| MinceR | yeah, letting individuals decide that they want to live in a christian fundamentalist totalitarian dictatorship | Jun 26 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | and whenever that happens some people die | Jun 26 19:02 |
| MinceR | civets? | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | that's just life | Jun 26 19:03 |
| MinceR | yeah, and when you inject bleach into people, they die | Jun 26 19:03 |
| MinceR | and that too is just life | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | when people inject bleach into themselves, they die | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | and that is just life | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | who knows what their motives were | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | we can't treat people like children | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | they're adults | Jun 26 19:03 |
| MinceR | that would be a nice idea | Jun 26 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | their life is their responsibility | Jun 26 19:03 |
| MinceR | if we finally stopped treating people like children | Jun 26 19:04 |
| MinceR | and abolished the state | Jun 26 19:04 |
| MinceR | and let people like trump take their beloved religions and apply it to themselves | Jun 26 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | well now it seems like we're on the same page | Jun 26 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | but, we see Trump differently | Jun 26 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | though i can see your point of view | Jun 26 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | Trump isn't very good for us | Jun 26 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | I have one question I'm curious about: is there a record of someone mourning a loss of a person who injected bleach into themselves after seeing Trump? | Jun 26 19:05 |
| XRevan86 | I mean, are those intellectuals missed? | Jun 26 19:05 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 26 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: people did drink it, but survived | Jun 26 19:05 |
| MinceR | well, if you follow that thought | Jun 26 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | life doesn't give up so easily | Jun 26 19:05 |
| MinceR | you'll find that most people are idiots | Jun 26 19:05 |
| MinceR | and so people dying in general is an improvement | Jun 26 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | whatever form of life gave up easily is gone by now | Jun 26 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | thanks to evolution | Jun 26 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | that's why we're strong and can survive even drinking some bleach, though it's certainly not good | Jun 26 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Everyone's an idiot one way or another. | Jun 26 19:06 |
| MinceR | thanks to humans evolving, all life on earth may die out prematurely | Jun 26 19:06 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: But there's a certain threshold… | Jun 26 19:06 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: [citation needed] | Jun 26 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: it won't give up just yet | Jun 26 19:06 |
| CrystalMath | not even with a much hotter earth | Jun 26 19:06 |
| MinceR | it doesn't have to | Jun 26 19:07 |
| MinceR | we've given our religious zealots such wonderful tools | Jun 26 19:07 |
| MinceR | like nuclear bombs | Jun 26 19:07 |
| CrystalMath | but even that can't kill everything | Jun 26 19:07 |
| MinceR | it may cause so much damage that the planet will become inhospitable to life | Jun 26 19:08 |
| CrystalMath | hmm, well, try it | Jun 26 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | you may be surprised how tough life can be | Jun 26 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | but also | Jun 26 19:10 |
| MinceR | they're trying | Jun 26 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | don't forget genes will also try to talk sense into the minds | Jun 26 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | of those people who can launch the bombs | Jun 26 19:10 |
| MinceR | the scene is being set for religious and race wars | Jun 26 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | i mean sure it didn't work for Heaven's Gate | Jun 26 19:10 |
| MinceR | those minds have no sense in them | Jun 26 19:10 |
| MinceR | fundamentalism has made sure of that | Jun 26 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | nor for Jonestown | Jun 26 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | but actually, even in Jonestown, some force was involved | Jun 26 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | not everyone drank the koolaid voluntarily | Jun 26 19:11 |
| MinceR | the scene is also being set for famines leading to wars for resources | Jun 26 19:11 |
| MinceR | and we're also doing global warming, in case those other methods fail | Jun 26 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | famines won't hurt cockroaches | Jun 26 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | they can feed off the dead humans :P | Jun 26 19:11 |
| MinceR | the New Dark Ages are also ensuring that we'll be defenseless against external threats | Jun 26 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | remember i said life not human life | Jun 26 19:12 |
| MinceR | remember i said "like nuclear bombs", not "nuclear bombs" | Jun 26 19:13 |
| MinceR | biological weapons are also still on the table :> | Jun 26 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | and tiny organisms get around those great | Jun 26 19:13 |
| MinceR | maybe some tiny organisms will survive, and intelligent life will eventually evolve on earth | Jun 26 19:14 |
| MinceR | maybe the greatest contribution humanity can make is wiping itself out to make room for something intelligent to evolve | Jun 26 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | maybe | Jun 26 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | we don't know | Jun 26 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | let's leave it to fate | Jun 26 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | don't worry, be happy :) | Jun 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | yeah | Jun 26 19:17 |
| MinceR | let the idiots kill themselves off, who cares about the innocents | Jun 26 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | i'm thinking of a greater level of not caring | Jun 26 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | i'm saying, live only in the now | Jun 26 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | only for today | Jun 26 19:18 |
| MinceR | i can't do otherwise | Jun 26 19:19 |
| MinceR | that's what makes the now "now" | Jun 26 19:19 |
| CrystalMath | perhaps you don't realize how evil 90s america is | Jun 26 19:21 |
| CrystalMath | it didn't do airstrikes on your hometown | Jun 26 19:21 |
| CrystalMath | it did on mine | Jun 26 19:21 |
| MinceR | perhaps you don't realize how evil neofascists are | Jun 26 19:21 |
| MinceR | because Agent Orange is still being held back by the state | Jun 26 19:21 |
| CrystalMath | i don't think that's the case | Jun 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | so he can't do to uhmerica what orban is doing to hungary, or what putler is doing to russia, or what erdogan is doing to turkey | Jun 26 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | i think that's the deception | Jun 26 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | Trump famously said one beautiful and smart sentence... | Jun 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | the checks and balances are being destroyed, but it still takes a while over there | Jun 26 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | "they're not after me, they're after you, i'm just in the way" | Jun 26 19:22 |
| MinceR | ridiculous | Jun 26 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | it's the truth | Jun 26 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | globalists want to create a prison planet | Jun 26 19:23 |
| MinceR | twitler abusing his power to enrich himself in no way protect me from anything | Jun 26 19:23 |
| MinceR | yeah, and he expressed his admiration for prison countries | Jun 26 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | it's really said that the only movement capable of doing something doesn't see it, and doesn't understand why we're constantly being pushed on all sides | Jun 26 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | *sad | Jun 26 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | the push is coming from the evil globalists | Jun 26 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | and from people who are making a big deal from the plandemic | Jun 26 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | *of the | Jun 26 19:24 |
| MinceR | it's really sad that most people believe that the only thing we can do is decide which of 2 evils should be allowed to kill us and wear our skin | Jun 26 19:24 |
| MinceR | and that they believe that everyone else has made a choice and it is different from theirs then it's the biggest evil that one could have possibly done | Jun 26 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | no i believe that one side will put us into a prison planet where everyone is constantly controlled and watched for "safety" reasons, and the other will create a beautiful free world in which people are born, live, and die as they always have | Jun 26 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | there is a sacrifice no matter which side you choose | Jun 26 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | but only one retains the dignity of individual human beings | Jun 26 19:26 |
| MinceR | neither of them will let you be free | Jun 26 19:26 |
| CrystalMath | the other crushes it and gives you a long life as a slave | Jun 26 19:26 |
| MinceR | one of them will eat you if they believe you to be privileged or politically incorrect | Jun 26 19:26 |
| MinceR | the other will eat you if you refuse to live as they want and believe everything they want you to believe | Jun 26 19:26 |
| CrystalMath | the politically correct crowd are the globalists | Jun 26 19:27 |
| CrystalMath | they are Biden | Jun 26 19:27 |
| CrystalMath | if you vote for biden you are voting for kneeling in front of minorities | Jun 26 19:27 |
| MinceR | i don't get to vote in that race | Jun 26 19:27 |
| CrystalMath | literally! | Jun 26 19:27 |
| CrystalMath | but why would you support the bastion of political correctness | Jun 26 19:27 |
| CrystalMath | the designers of all that is bad | Jun 26 19:27 |
| MinceR | the ones i do get to vote in are counted by people who don't care what's on the paper | Jun 26 19:27 |
| MinceR | i don't support the bastion of political correctnes | Jun 26 19:28 |
| MinceR | s | Jun 26 19:28 |
| MinceR | i prefer "more of the same" as before dump to dump himself | Jun 26 19:28 |
| CrystalMath | you do whenever you talk crap about Trump while forgiving biden | Jun 26 19:28 |
| MinceR | that's bullshit, and it's the flawed thinking i mentioned earlier | Jun 26 19:28 |
| MinceR | and you probably can't get out of it if you don't demolish the two-party system | Jun 26 19:28 |
| CrystalMath | but it's as clear as day | Jun 26 19:29 |
| MinceR | yes, to the believers, everything is clear | Jun 26 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | 1) you're not gonna demolish the two party syste... | Jun 26 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | (system | Jun 26 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | 2) Biden is the one kneeling in front of minorities | Jun 26 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | 3) Trump says whatever the hell he wants | Jun 26 19:29 |
| MinceR | and whatever he wants to say is incredibly stupid | Jun 26 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | i mean that's enough for me to believe Trump is the cure | Jun 26 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | maybe i'm stupid | Jun 26 19:30 |
| MinceR | and as long as he's in that position, it's also the federal policy | Jun 26 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | it could be a very obvious trick | Jun 26 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | but being desperate i have a suspension of disbelief here | Jun 26 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | plus, i know one side did an airstrike on my hometown, and the other withdrew troops from Syria | Jun 26 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | so it's as clear as day to me - the giant douche is better than a turd sandwich | Jun 26 19:30 |
| MinceR | well, under twitler's opponents, the country i live in was a republic with a market economy | Jun 26 19:31 |
| MinceR | under his pals, it's a christian fundamentalist totalitarian dictatorship where the dictator's pals get to do business | Jun 26 19:31 |
| MinceR | and the latter is very similar to what this country was under russian rule, just with a different state religion | Jun 26 19:32 |
| MinceR | and if GoldenDawnald gets his way, that's what the USA will turn into as well | Jun 26 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | oh, and it'd be great if it the PC crowd wins? | Jun 26 19:34 |
| MinceR | no, but at least we might still have the tools with which we can remove them from power | Jun 26 19:35 |
| CrystalMath | how happy will it be, when america is once again attacking other countries in order to liberate them from patriarchy / racism / their oil | Jun 26 19:35 |
| CrystalMath | when white people have to pay a tax because they were born that way | Jun 26 19:35 |
| MinceR | how do you know this is biden's program? | Jun 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | and how do you know he'll be able to implement it until the end of his term? | Jun 26 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | have you listened to biden? | Jun 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | no | Jun 26 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | have you seen what's happening? | Jun 26 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | they're trying to take down Trump with whatever they can | Jun 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | yes | Jun 26 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | so they can do this evil crap | Jun 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | well, that's understandable | Jun 26 19:36 |
| MinceR | i'd want to take him down too | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | i wouldn't with these people | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | anyway | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | if you heard biden | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | you'd know he has no program | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | his mind is blank | Jun 26 19:37 |
| MinceR | that's a good start | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | but he's firmly under control from the evil globalist elite | Jun 26 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | he does everything they say | Jun 26 19:38 |
| CrystalMath | just look at him speak | Jun 26 19:38 |
| CrystalMath | he's like an AI generating random globalist propaganda | Jun 26 19:38 |
| CrystalMath | "150 million americans were killed by guns alone" | Jun 26 19:38 |
| MinceR | also, why do you let the DNC routinely cheat at their own primaries? | Jun 26 19:38 |
| CrystalMath | well i can't stop them :P | Jun 26 19:38 |
| MinceR | well, anyway, biden and trump make a pretty good case for anarchism | Jun 26 19:40 |
| MinceR | also, if that fascist, zealous idiot would by some mistake do something good, i still wouldn't be a fan of him | Jun 26 19:50 |
| MinceR | accidents happen | Jun 26 19:50 |
| MinceR | and horrible people are still horrible people | Jun 26 19:50 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, trump will censor people in the name of "not fundamentalist" just like the "PC" people | Jun 26 19:55 |
| kingoffrance | two sides of the same coin | Jun 26 19:55 |
| kingoffrance | there is corporate supporters of BLM/antifa/etc. and corporate people on wall street supporting trump and .... thats about it | Jun 26 19:56 |
| MinceR | "Patriotic Correctness" | Jun 26 19:57 |
| kingoffrance | ralph nader was right, 2 corporate parties | Jun 26 19:57 |
| kingoffrance | yup | Jun 26 19:57 |
| kingoffrance | "parties" arent officially anything...its just private/voluntary, delegating to proxies .... electors dont have to vote party lines, they just "voluntarily" (read: are payed to) do so | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | calling it a "system" is the problem | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | its not | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | it never was | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | they branched off from jefferson democratic republicans IIRC | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | which was federalists versus non-feds | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | "if i had to join a political party to get into heaven, id rather not go to heaven" thomas jefferson | Jun 26 20:01 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Jun 26 20:01 |
| MinceR | the system is what makes it impossible for anyone else to win | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | you should ask the bar why they have parties | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | they would be the likely reason | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | and the banks | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | anything else is distraction IMO | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | they never were "part of the system" | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | they are a "voluntary" extension | Jun 26 20:02 |
| kingoffrance | same as ucc, same as bar some people claim, medieval guilds it has been said is the root of this | Jun 26 20:03 |
| kingoffrance | same as frns | Jun 26 20:03 |
| kingoffrance | "private" people granted "public" monopolies | Jun 26 20:03 |
| kingoffrance | none of them are "part of the system" they have weaseled their way i | Jun 26 20:04 |
| kingoffrance | s/i/in | Jun 26 20:04 |
| kingoffrance | they have displaced "the system" ...legal regulatory capture what have you | Jun 26 20:04 |
| MinceR | with a different system | Jun 26 20:04 |
| kingoffrance | yes | Jun 26 20:04 |
| kingoffrance | i dont expect people to go back to farming out in the sticks | Jun 26 20:04 |
| kingoffrance | but this is the big problem: almost everything going on is not part of the system, but "voluntary" optional things so ingrained you cant avoid them | Jun 26 20:05 |
| kingoffrance | like microsoft in the schools | Jun 26 20:05 |
| kingoffrance | its all "voluntary" | Jun 26 20:05 |
| MinceR | schools "voluntarily" accepting corruption from microshit | Jun 26 20:05 |
| kingoffrance | just.....you will have a hard time finding finding a school that doesnt "volunteer" to mandate them | Jun 26 20:05 |
| kingoffrance | yup | Jun 26 20:05 |
| MinceR | possibly because they're underfunded and they don't care about their professions anymore | Jun 26 20:06 |
| kingoffrance | well courts too etc. | Jun 26 20:08 |
| kingoffrance | as techright pointed out with patent stuff i guess | Jun 26 20:08 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/27/724f7b88cedaefd8.mp4 | Jun 26 20:19 |
| kingoffrance | whenever they say "public" in america, you can almost always trace it back to when it was some private group and they got their claws in to some exalted status | Jun 26 20:32 |
| kingoffrance | that is the pattern i see | Jun 26 20:32 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's a gas! | Jun 26 20:42 |
| kingoffrance | i saw a thing that was "summary" circa 1960s of one of the "council of state governors" type thing, or what have you, an aide reporting back to kennedy what occurred...it was noted it was mostly just idle talk, all "off the record" ......there are all these little private clubs where decisions are made "off the record" then maybe they have a "public debate" with open minutes, such is "transparency" ....its gone on a long time | Jun 26 20:42 |
| kingoffrance | they *like* to have all these little private clubs where they can discuss "off the record" | Jun 26 20:42 |
| schestowitz | [18:50] <XRevan86> CrystalMath: What is globalism? | Jun 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | What Trump does | Jun 26 20:43 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: but then why do the people who want global technofascism hate Trump? (besides you guys who also hate Trump but i don't know why) | Jun 26 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Many people hate Trump | Jun 26 20:44 |
| schestowitz | He's corrupt, he's racist, he abolishes the rule of law and human decency | Jun 26 20:44 |
| kingoffrance | then *after* they have discusssed in private, you will see "public legislation" | Jun 26 20:44 |
| schestowitz | (and you're not in the US) | Jun 26 20:44 |
| schestowitz | so maybe you want the US to become the basketcase it is, for your own amusement | Jun 26 20:44 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: apparently most people want authoritarianism everywhere but we have two slightly different tribes that hate each other and use slightly different symbols | Jun 26 20:45 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i just don't want global technofascism | Jun 26 20:46 |
| MinceR | then twitler is not your friend | Jun 26 20:46 |
| CrystalMath | it is possible that one may need something unpopular, like an anti-science movement, to stop technofascism | Jun 26 20:46 |
| CrystalMath | as Ted Kaczynski said | Jun 26 20:46 |
| MinceR | well, we do have an anti-science movement | Jun 26 20:46 |
| MinceR | but it's still authoritarian | Jun 26 20:46 |
| CrystalMath | well if it destroys science and technology, and leads to its abandonment | Jun 26 20:47 |
| CrystalMath | we can be savead | Jun 26 20:47 |
| CrystalMath | b*saved | Jun 26 20:47 |
| CrystalMath | *before they put chips into your brain | Jun 26 20:47 |
| MinceR | and anything that opposes authoritarianism is already unpopular | Jun 26 20:47 |
| MinceR | no, if we destroy science and technology, we doom ourselves to extinctin | Jun 26 20:47 |
| MinceR | s/tin/tion/ | Jun 26 20:47 |
| MinceR | when the Sun goes red giant or sooner | Jun 26 20:47 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: really? you're thinking that far ahead? | Jun 26 20:49 |
| CrystalMath | please don't | Jun 26 20:49 |
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| CrystalMath | every good thing must come to an end | Jun 26 20:49 |
| CrystalMath | even the human race | Jun 26 20:49 |
| CrystalMath | it'll happen one day | Jun 26 20:49 |
| MinceR | a good thing can't come to an end if it doesn't start | Jun 26 20:49 |
| CrystalMath | don't fear the reaper | Jun 26 20:49 |
| MinceR | there's very little good about humans | Jun 26 20:49 |
| MinceR | and it's going away | Jun 26 20:49 |
| CrystalMath | because of science and technology | Jun 26 20:50 |
| MinceR | no, much of that _is_ science and technology | Jun 26 20:51 |
| CrystalMath | nope | Jun 26 20:51 |
| MinceR | also, what's a follower of kaczynski doing on IRC? | Jun 26 20:51 |
| CrystalMath | people can't really be happy without their individual dignity | Jun 26 20:51 |
| MinceR | people generally don't have dignity | Jun 26 20:51 |
| CrystalMath | yes they do | Jun 26 20:51 |
| CrystalMath | i have a channel ##technophobia | Jun 26 20:52 |
| CrystalMath | but it's empty ofc | Jun 26 20:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 26 20:52 |
| CrystalMath | as the topic says | Jun 26 20:52 |
| CrystalMath | "Most of us seem to not use IRC. Go figure." | Jun 26 20:52 |
| CrystalMath | i think? | Jun 26 20:53 |
| CrystalMath | yeah something like that | Jun 26 20:53 |
| kingoffrance | science will never admit alchemy because then it becomes superstition/religion as their roots, religion will never admit science because then they can be accused of technologically creating their beliefs......i keep waiting for any pro or anti-vaxer to say "thats just alchemy!" but it never happens, there is this artificial split in the modern world.....i say that not because i wish to see science and religion merged falsely, bu | Jun 26 20:54 |
| kingoffrance | t like the 2 parties, just another what is arguably an artificial split IMO used for political purposes | Jun 26 20:54 |
| kingoffrance | anyways, im skeptical of pro or anti-science, because i think thats just another false divide (historically) | Jun 26 20:55 |
| CrystalMath | yeah | Jun 26 20:55 |
| CrystalMath | some science is alright | Jun 26 20:55 |
| CrystalMath | even Kaczynski said so | Jun 26 20:55 |
| MinceR | how can be pro-X and anti-X be a false divide? | Jun 26 20:55 |
| MinceR | is it its own opposite, like a photon? | Jun 26 20:55 |
| CrystalMath | as long as it's not something that requires or causes massive organization | Jun 26 20:55 |
| CrystalMath | it should be okay | Jun 26 20:56 |
| CrystalMath | but IRC does... | Jun 26 20:56 |
| CrystalMath | so IRC is technically evil | Jun 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | where's the massive organization in IRC? | Jun 26 20:56 |
| CrystalMath | all communication services are | Jun 26 20:56 |
| CrystalMath | and transport | Jun 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | that's bullshit | Jun 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | a lot of our technology is distributed | Jun 26 20:56 |
| CrystalMath | yes but we have to organize and create a division of labor | Jun 26 20:56 |
| CrystalMath | to have the internet | Jun 26 20:56 |
| MinceR | not really | Jun 26 20:57 |
| MinceR | we just need to interconnect neighboring networks | Jun 26 20:57 |
| MinceR | also, organization is not in conflict with dignity | Jun 26 21:01 |
| MinceR | hierarchy is | Jun 26 21:01 |
| MinceR | which is not necessary for organization | Jun 26 21:01 |
| CrystalMath | it's not dignified to eat pre-chewed food | Jun 26 21:02 |
| MinceR | then don't? | Jun 26 21:02 |
| MinceR | who even does that? | Jun 26 21:02 |
| CrystalMath | well think of the equivalent | Jun 26 21:02 |
| CrystalMath | every time you open a packet of something | Jun 26 21:02 |
| CrystalMath | which you didn't make | Jun 26 21:02 |
| CrystalMath | it has been pre-processed for you | Jun 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | there's no equivalent | Jun 26 21:03 |
| CrystalMath | you need to be able to make everything yourself from scratch | Jun 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | when someone does something they're good at, and trade the result for the fruits of someone else's labor, there's nothing undignified about it | Jun 26 21:03 |
| CrystalMath | tbh this is why i insist on simple software | Jun 26 21:03 |
| CrystalMath | because it has to be simple enough for a reasonably good programmer to rewrite from scratch | Jun 26 21:03 |
| MinceR | i don't need to, but it's nice to be able to | Jun 26 21:03 |
| CrystalMath | it's not just nice, if you can't it can be a disaster | Jun 26 21:04 |
| CrystalMath | and society does things to forbid you from separating yourself from it | Jun 26 21:04 |
| CrystalMath | much like systemd dependencies | Jun 26 21:04 |
| MinceR | with technological development, we could eventually ensure that all human science and technology is available to us, personally | Jun 26 21:04 |
| CrystalMath | "most people work like this so you should be forced to be like the rest" | Jun 26 21:04 |
| CrystalMath | this is the horror of society ^ | Jun 26 21:04 |
| MinceR | that sucks, but that is not technology | Jun 26 21:05 |
| MinceR | systemd itself was invented to restrict people's freedom | Jun 26 21:05 |
| CrystalMath | and why society needs to be cut down and restricted by mandatory individualism | Jun 26 21:05 |
| CrystalMath | that is, there must be lines that cannot be crossed | Jun 26 21:05 |
| MinceR | i'm not sure how you can enforce mandatory individualism | Jun 26 21:05 |
| MinceR | by its very nature, individual leaves decisions to the individual | Jun 26 21:05 |
| CrystalMath | by restricting what society is allowed to make public | Jun 26 21:05 |
| CrystalMath | and everything else MUST be private | Jun 26 21:06 |
| CrystalMath | aka, minarchism | Jun 26 21:06 |
| kingoffrance | @MinceR false divide between science and religion i mean i.e. evil liberal technocracy versus good god-fearing natural rights | Jun 26 21:09 |
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| MinceR | well yeah, that is wrong | Jun 26 21:09 |
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| kingoffrance | alchemy was supposoed to be all "imitate nature" as well | Jun 26 21:09 |
| MinceR | it's actually evil mind-destroying religion vs good liberating understanding of reality | Jun 26 21:09 |
| kingoffrance | so ...ignore the religion/god thing, that was the "science" of the time | Jun 26 21:09 |
| kingoffrance | it was "work with nature" instead of against it | Jun 26 21:10 |
| kingoffrance | they werent environmentalists perhaps, but if you were trying to technologically control nature, you would be "doing it wrong" | Jun 26 21:11 |
| kingoffrance | and "doomed to failure" | Jun 26 21:11 |
| kingoffrance | i suppose you had to know how things *were* not "how we would like to dictate they should be" i guess | Jun 26 21:14 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: looks like Trumpland is set to break another record for new cases/day | Jun 26 21:54 |
| schestowitz | [20:46] <CrystalMath> as Ted Kaczynski said | Jun 26 21:55 |
| schestowitz | LOL, when you uphold Unabomber, a terrorist, as a sort of yardstick for wisdom | Jun 26 21:55 |
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| schestowitz | Maybe this weekend we'll have some of the "Hitler did nothing wrong" and "Hans Reiser did nothing wrong" crown, too... | Jun 26 21:58 |
| CrystalMath | well calling him a terrorist when talking about his research paper is an ad hominem | Jun 26 22:01 |
| CrystalMath | you also have to disprove the ideas, not just call him out for stuff he did | Jun 26 22:01 |
| MinceR | poor hitler didn't know all he had to do was write a "research paper" | Jun 26 22:07 |
| XRevan86 | Are you talking about the new Putin's "research paper"? | Jun 26 22:08 |
| MinceR | no, a different kaczynski | Jun 26 22:09 |
| MinceR | the unabomber | Jun 26 22:09 |
| schestowitz | he literally bombed people | Jun 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | for just being intellectuals or heads of companies | Jun 26 22:11 |
| schestowitz | but the cargo cult lives on | Jun 26 22:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: looks like Trumpland i"> You know it wouldn't be this bad if they would just stop testing people. | Jun 26 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Jun 26 22:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You know, it's comforting to know that our country is having elections where the voting bloc who is too stupid to understand how a battering ram works is playing off the virus. | Jun 26 22:55 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 42k+ now | Jun 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and it's not even midnight here | Jun 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ | Jun 26 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | United States Coronavirus: 2,547,365 Cases and 127,361 Deaths - Worldometer | Jun 26 23:37 | |
| schestowitz | by state | Jun 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | you would know better which ones are now red and blue | Jun 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | I lost track | Jun 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | FL +8,942 | Jun 26 23:37 |
| schestowitz | old 'conservative' folks voted GOP | Jun 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz | after the butterfly ballots and all | Jun 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz | now they will get ill | Jun 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz | "For the economy..." | Jun 26 23:38 |
| schestowitz | FL deaths: | Jun 26 23:39 |
| schestowitz | 3,366 | Jun 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida is getting away from Trump. | Jun 26 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Germany 9,026 | Jun 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been polling 3-4 points on Biden's side consistently since late April. | Jun 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wisconsin is probably a lost cause for Trump. | Jun 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Michigan is definitely finished with him. | Jun 26 23:39 |
| schestowitz | Sweden 9,026 | Jun 26 23:39 |
| schestowitz | another 50 dead today | Jun 26 23:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So is Pennsylvania. | Jun 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz | for 10 million of so in population | Jun 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz | multiple by 35 to see what it is compared to US | Jun 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Virginia threw out pretty much all the Republicans at the state level and voted for Obama and Clinton. | Jun 26 23:40 |
| schestowitz | 1700 ish? | Jun 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So no dice there. | Jun 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Texas is a tie. | Jun 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Arizona is about 3-4 points towards Biden in the polls. | Jun 26 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ohio and Iowa could go either way, but are about 1-2 points towards Trump right now. | Jun 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Georgia and North Carolina 1-2 points towards Biden and could go either way. | Jun 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say Trump is defending too many states and can't possibly win all of them. | Jun 26 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the election happened now he'd lose. Short of the virus disappearing and everyone going back to work pronto, he'll lose. | Jun 26 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's still months left for the virus to rage on killing old voters, and he's underwater with them too right now, by 3 points. | Jun 26 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though it's his best polling group still. | Jun 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not like the country want Biden in particular. | Jun 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's that Trump has failed so spectacularly that a large segment of the Republican Party has had quite enough of this and will vote for Biden. | Jun 26 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2018 sort of foreshadowed this in the suburbs and in light of recent events, I doubt they like Trump more now than they did then. | Jun 26 23:44 |
| XRevan86 | It's almost like the "lesser evil" is not Trump | Jun 26 23:44 |
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| schestowitz | this is still awful | Jun 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz | because they end up with two rather bads | Jun 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz | and then they will rejoice a bad | Jun 26 23:48 |
| schestowitz | which is, I suppose, what the country's oligarchs wanted anyway | Jun 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | I am still trying to help my country here | Jun 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | we're less hopeless than the US | Jun 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | one big issue is the push to privatise our health system | Jun 26 23:49 |
| schestowitz | it's not irreversible just yet | Jun 26 23:50 |
| schestowitz | rianne was at the stores today, said they were quite empty | Jun 26 23:50 |
| schestowitz | and promises of many SALES and DIsCOUNTS were also empty (which is what I had also noticed) | Jun 26 23:50 |
| schestowitz | some people frame this as 'online shopping' versus 'physical shops' | Jun 26 23:51 |
| schestowitz | but I think it overlooks what is really happening | Jun 26 23:51 |
| schestowitz | people out of work | Jun 26 23:51 |
| schestowitz | and those still working having low work security or a sense of 'consumer confidence' | Jun 26 23:51 |
| MinceR | the UK will probably fall apart | Jun 26 23:52 |
| schestowitz | so people not focus on essentials, and that necessarily means lower supply and demand, so this whole system of endless expansion, backed by growing loans, is not collapsing | Jun 26 23:52 |
| MinceR | https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/joanna-cherry-alternative-route-to-scottish-independence-1-6718284 | Jun 26 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theneweuropean.co.uk | SNP MP calls for ‘Plan B’ which could lead to Scotland declaring independence without referendum | The New European | Jun 26 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | the market just isn't constantly "growing" | Jun 26 23:52 |
| schestowitz | *not>now | Jun 26 23:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: seems inevitable | Jun 26 23:52 |
| schestowitz | Scotland has lots to offer and is less densely populated | Jun 26 23:52 |
| schestowitz | the imperial England is languishing, so not much compelling beef for Scotland to stay in this union of Westminster, they might even want to bond with Scandinavia is not EU | Jun 26 23:53 |
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| MinceR | well, last time they wanted to be EU members | Jun 26 23:56 |
| MinceR | so pigfucker told them if they leave the UK, they'll have trouble rejoining the EU | Jun 26 23:56 |
| MinceR | and then pigfucker maneuvered the UK out of the EU | Jun 26 23:56 |
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