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[00:22]	TR Bot	 Morning Funny Pic Dump (25 Pics)
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[02:36]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-250622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-250622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-250622.txt
[02:36]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
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[02:37]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
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[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250622.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-250622.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-250622.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-250622.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 25, 2022
[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
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● Jun 26
[03:00]	DaemonFC	https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/in-1st-year-covid-19-vaccines-saved-20m-lives-scientists-say/
[03:00]	TR Bot	 In 1st year, COVID-19 vaccines saved 20M lives, scientists say | WGN-TV
[03:00]	DaemonFC	"The London scientists excluded China because of uncertainty around the pandemics effect on deaths there and its huge population."
[03:00]	DaemonFC	The Communists lie and say it's not a problem and have a fake vaccine.
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[04:01]	schestowitz-TR	[03:00] <DaemonFC> The Communists lie and say it's not a problem and have a fake vaccine.
[04:01]	schestowitz-TR	not just China
[04:01]	schestowitz-TR	and not just"Communists"
[04:04]	TR News	A Day at Faslane gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/peacecamp_protest.gmi
[04:05]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D624.jpg
[04:05]	TR News	2022-06-25 Locrian.Zone: THE SEA RAIDERS added to library. gemini://gemini.locrian.zone/library/Wells/Raiders.gmi
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, June 25, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:06]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:13]	TR News	"Tmux is a great program if you need everything it does, but it seriously does a lot luckily there are programs like MPROCS which take small pieces of what Tmux offers without all of the stuff I don't need." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WHajHA2ilpE
[04:13]	TR Bot	 MPROCS Offers The Best TMUX Feature Minus The Bloat - Invidious
[04:13]	TR News	Better export and delete. GitHub is a prison run by the criminals (Microsoft). http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/26576/backup-all-starred-repositories-from-github
[04:13]	TR Bot	 Backup all starred repositories from Github Using grep, xargs
[04:14]	TR News	How to Use tree to Show a Directory Tree in the Linux Terminal https://www.makeuseof.com/use-tree-to-show-directory-tree-linux/ Source: makeuseof
[04:14]	TR Bot	 How to Use tree to Show a Directory Tree in the Linux Terminal
[04:15]	TR News	Trying to recycle CoreOS to pretend it's not just a dead brand https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/OSHZEHWTYSACVKJEPLVL2EVJ3GDY3AE2/
[04:15]	TR Bot	 F37 change proposal: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide change) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
[04:16]	TR News	A roundup of this past weeks EPO coverage at Techrights, based mostly on internal documents/publications http://techrights.org/2022/06/25/most-corrupt-patent-office/
[04:16]	TR Bot	 The Past Week at EPO, Europes Most Corrupt Patent Office | Techrights
[04:17]	TR News	Shotcut 22.06 Video Editor Brings Glaxnimate Support, Keyframes Expansion, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166487
[04:17]	TR Bot	 Shotcut 22.06 Video Editor Brings Glaxnimate Support, Keyframes Expansion, and More | Tux Machines
[04:18]	TR News	My viewpoint on how Gemini communities can encourage more people not only to join Geminispace (Gemini has just made it into Linux Magazine) but also to stay there http://techrights.org/2022/06/25/making-geminispace-better/
[04:18]	TR Bot	 Making Gemini Better and Helping It Grow Even Faster | Techrights
[04:18]	TR News	The imposter EPO President Antnio Campinos loves having his scripted fireside chats during Christmas; now in summertime he struggles to show any signs of peace because its crystal clear that the EPO has set fire to the EPC and work atmosphere is up in flames http://techrights.org/2022/06/25/epo-fireside-chat/
[04:18]	TR Bot	 [Meme] Fireside Chat With EPO Management | Techrights
[04:20]	TR News	eBPF - Understanding How It Works https://blog.sofiane.cc/eBPFunderstanding/ Source: sofiane
[04:20]	TR Bot	 eBPF - Understanding How It Works
[04:23]	TR News	'Untold Stories of Open Source' outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software (don't miss the irony!) https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/06/25/0041218/new-linux-foundation-podcast-untold-stories-of-open-source
[04:23]	TR Bot	 New Linux Foundation Podcast: 'Untold Stories of Open Source' - Slashdot
[04:24]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166488
[04:24]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[04:24]	TR News	203: Linus Torvalds at Open Source Summit, Manjaro 21.3, AMD, KDE, Steam Summer Sale and more Linux news - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-203/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux
[04:24]	TR Bot	Linus Torvalds at Open Source Summit, Manjaro 21.3, AMD, KDE, Steam Summer Sale and more Linux news - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital
[04:33]	TR News	More surveillance in the home (it usually sends data back from the so-called 'phone') https://staceyoniot.com/how-use-both-hue-bulbs-and-lutron-switches-in-your-smart-home/
[04:33]	TR Bot	 How use both Hue bulbs and Lutron switches in your smart home - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[04:34]	TR News	Perrottets land tax: how does it work and what will it do? - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/perrottets-land-tax-how-does-it-work-and-what-will-it-do/ Source: michaelwest
[04:34]	TR Bot	 Perrottet's land tax: how does it work and what will it do? - Michael West
[04:35]	TR News	Charting Kaggles growth to 10 million users | R-bloggers https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/charting-kaggles-growth-to-10-million-users/ Source: r-ers
[04:35]	TR Bot	Kaggles growth to 10 million users | R-bloggers
[04:35]	TR News	Audiocasts/Shows: MPROCS, Linus Torvalds, and Linux Foundation Outsourcing to Microsoft Proprietary Software Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166489
[04:35]	TR Bot	 Audiocasts/Shows: MPROCS, Linus Torvalds, and Linux Foundation Outsourcing to Microsoft Proprietary Software | Tux Machines
[04:38]	TR News	Ocean view property with carpark views? Exciting ASX float a tough sell, then theres title - Michael West https://michaelwest.com.au/ocean-view-property-with-carpark-views-exciting-asx-float-a-tough-sell-then-theres-title/ Source: michaelwest
[04:38]	TR Bot	 Ocean view property with carpark views? Exciting ASX float a tough sell, then there's title - Michael West
[04:58]	TR News	ZDNet moved to the "infinite scroll" (JavaScript) BS, so it is harder demonstrate the site's death based on posting volume in monthly archives
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[05:29]	TR News	After Gulag killed everything from RT this interview with RMS needed to be re-uploaded https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7mTcuIXaiP8
[05:29]	TR Bot	 Keiser Report Happy Hacking! ft Richard Stallman E344 480p hls - Invidious
[05:34]	TR News	Mobile phones are Stalin's dream https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cfmeJL4Ly5k
[05:34]	TR Bot	 Mobile phones are Stalin's dream - Invidious
[05:35]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/Documentaries/comments/vkiohg/chinas_mass_stabbing_crisis_2021_china_has_seen_a/
[05:36]	TR Bot	 China's Mass Stabbing Crisis (2021) - China has seen a huge surge in public knife attacks, often targeting children. [00:16:21] : Documentaries
[05:40]	DaemonFC	I don't get why you'd just randomly kill people who haven't wronged you.
[05:40]	DaemonFC	Like, no list of any particular grievances, just they go to a mall and stab people.
[05:40]	DaemonFC	And it doesn't get covered because Communists.
[05:40]	DaemonFC	And these knife attacks kill as many people as the average "mass shooting", but it's knives so who cares?
[05:41]	DaemonFC	You can't go off brand. Knives don't kill people. Only guns do.
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[05:55]	schestowitz_TR	knives cannot kill as efficiency
[05:55]	schestowitz_TR	*at same
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[06:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz-TR, Tell that to those four dead people that got knived in Huntington by Illinois Man the other day down the street from mom's house.
[06:02]	DaemonFC	Almost everyone in town has a gun, and he caused the first murder (four of them at once) in the city since 2001 with a knife.
[06:03]	DaemonFC	They caught the bastard. He came to the wrong state to do that shit.
[06:03]	DaemonFC	Indiana has prisons and the death sentence, and he's gonna get one of them.
[06:03]	DaemonFC	Sad to say that Illinois doesn't use its prisons and doesn't have the death sentence for these folks.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	The city is open carry and there's a gun shop at Walmart, and nobody in Indiana needs a permit.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	Somehow the city goes 21 years without a murder until Illinois Man comes over and takes out a family of 4 with a knife.
[06:05]	mjg59_	Huh almost everyone in town had a gun but they didn't stop a bad guy who didn't have a gun?
[06:05]	DaemonFC	Because that one family didn't have one.
[06:06]	DaemonFC	Should have had one.
[06:06]	DaemonFC	There's always those people that go "This is a safe town away from this liberal shit pits like Chicago, and I'll probably be fine." and then they aren't.
[06:06]	DaemonFC	*those
[06:07]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, The reason lots of people have guns there and it hasn't turned into a free for all. Well, I'll let you work that out with your keen powers of observation.
[06:07]	DaemonFC	*Dangles fingers in SJW*
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[06:09]	DaemonFC	Small towns away from major cities, where they tell people to get up off their ass and earn what they've got, and where it's well known people can and will defend themselves, do not have huge crime problems, in general.
[06:09]	DaemonFC	It's just a fact. An inescapable fact.
[06:10]	DaemonFC	Unless you call "crime" some guy smoking pot with the curtains drawn, or the occasional DUI, but I mean, murder is almost unheard of in a lot of these towns.
[06:11]	DaemonFC	It's the kind of place where the police respond to cats stuck in a tree, not some crackhead raping someone and then setting the L on fire.
[06:12]	mjg59_	I mean yeah statistically the smaller a community is the lower the probability it contains someone who'll do that sort of thing
[06:13]	DaemonFC	Well, you obviously can't work out statistics I suppose.
[06:16]	DaemonFC	If Huntington had the crime statistics of Chicago at scale, then there would be 5 murders per year and 16 people being shot non-fatally.
[06:17]	DaemonFC	In 2020, Huntington had 0 murders and 0 gun injuries unless you count a guy who got shot in the leg out in the county who ended up being taken to the town hospital, where he lived. He accidentally shot himself.
[06:18]	DaemonFC	So, I mean, that's safer than Chicago. Unless you shoot yourself in the ass, I guess.
[06:18]	schestowitz_TR	DaemonFC: I have a draft that is on topic
[06:18]	schestowitz_TR	wannna see?
[06:19]	schestowitz_TR	it's about mobile phones
[06:19]	DaemonFC	If Huntington (city) had Chicago gun crime statistics, 100 people would have been killed in just the last 20 years, guns alone.
[06:19]	DaemonFC	In reality, it was the four knife victims and the DEA agent in 2001 that got burned on a bed soaked in gasoline.
[06:19]	DaemonFC	So we could call that like 4-5% as dangerous as Chicago.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	Because to get to the DEA agent, you have to go back more than 20 years now.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	Call it 4%.
[06:20]	DaemonFC	<schestowitz_TR> wannna see?
[06:20]	DaemonFC	Sure.
[06:21]	DaemonFC	Indiana isn't so openly corrupt and disgusting that they would have a state holiday over an S&M museum.
[06:21]	schestowitz_TR	just hang on while it is uploading
[06:21]	DaemonFC	In fact, while Chicago puts sex toys in the windows of a sex shop 20 feet from a children's park, Huntington County, Indiana has an ordinance that makes it illegal to open one in the county.
[06:22]	DaemonFC	It puts so many regulations as to where you could open one that while you could open one somewhere, you'd still need a permit that they won't approve.
[06:24]	DaemonFC	Parents shouldn't have to deal with the shit that goes on in Chicago. Perverts and murderers near a park.
[06:24]	DaemonFC	But that's the Democrats for you.
[06:25]	DaemonFC	Around these parts, the judges just let them out after 45 days in county.
[06:26]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, I'm starting to wonder if Rick Jones was barely slapped on the wrist because Gates got involved, or if the courts in Seattle just work like they do in Chicago.
[06:27]	DaemonFC	https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2022/6/24/23181382/shootings-homicides-chicago-june
[06:27]	TR Bot	 17-year-old boy among 3 people killed by gunfire in Chicago Thursday, two 13-year-old boys among 13 others wounded - Chicago Sun-Times
[06:28]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, Let's just say it's worth having a gun in the house.
[06:29]	DaemonFC	The liberal media doesn't like running stories about FOID card holders who shoot and kill a bad guy or hold them there until the cops arrive.
[06:29]	DaemonFC	What are you going to do when someone breaks into your house and you have nothing to fight them off with?
[06:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[06:31]	DaemonFC	The cops in my town didn't even bother to stop the looters and rioters two years ago.
[06:31]	DaemonFC	They just stood there and watched.
[06:31]	DaemonFC	JB Pritzker should have activated the National Guard and told them to shoot looters on sight.
[06:32]	DaemonFC	The police lost control of the situation immediately and had no backup from the Illinois National Guard because the governor is a Democrat.
[06:37]	schestowitz_TR	DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-mobile-phones/
[06:37]	TR Bot	 Rogan and Richard Stallman: What Mobile Phones Really Are | Techrights
[06:42]	TR News	Being A Confident Pedestrian gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1035
[06:42]	TR News	Rogan and Richard Stallman: What Mobile Phones Really Are | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-mobile-phones/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-mobile-phones/
[06:52]	DaemonFC	Looks okay.
[06:52]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, T-Mobile is now selling app data about their customers.
[06:53]	schestowitz_TR	of course they do
[06:53]	DaemonFC	Even if the apps themselves don't collect it.
[06:53]	schestowitz_TR	and more of it over time
[06:53]	schestowitz_TR	DaemonFC: draft 
[06:53]	schestowitz_TR	http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-keiser-interview/
[06:53]	TR Bot	 Richard Stallman Interview Removed by Google (Because He Was on RT) | Techrights
[06:55]	TR News	Richard Stallman Interview Removed by Google (Because He Was on RT) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-keiser-interview/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/richard-stallman-keiser-interview/
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[07:00]	DaemonFC	Looks okay.
[07:01]	DaemonFC	Heh, YouTube
[07:05]	AdmFubar	https://www.independent.co.uk/news/westinghouse-ap-federal-trade-commission-washington-americans-b2107960.html
[07:05]	TR Bot	 Fix the Hog: Harley, Westinghouse ordered to fix warranties | The Independent
[07:06]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166490
[07:06]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
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[08:14]	psydruid	https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1820621
[08:14]	TR Bot	 
[08:17]	schestowitz	:-)
[08:17]	schestowitz	"India launches Digital India RISC-V (DIR-V) program for next generation Microprocessors to achieve commercial silicon & Design wins by December'2023"
[08:17]	schestowitz	ASPX... some IF number
[08:17]	schestowitz	stay classy
[08:17]	schestowitz	*ID number
[08:18]	schestowitz	no support for permalinks or some kind
[08:18]	schestowitz	"dude, just use the primary key!"
[08:18]	schestowitz	it's a potential security issue
[08:26]	TR News	This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/lf-disinformation-ploy/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/lf-disinformation-ploy/
[08:26]	TR Bot	 This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin | Techrights
[08:30]	TR News	"This capsule is now self-hosted on an ESP32 development board (ESP32-DevKitC V4) connected to a phone charger and Wi-Fi." gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/self-hosting-on-esp32.gmi
[08:35]	TR News	Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166491
[08:35]	TR Bot	 Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[08:42]	TR News	"Famously, one difference between HDDs and SSDs is that SSDs have limits on how much data you can write to them" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/SSDWriteLimitsCanMatter | Source: uni Toronto
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/SSDWriteLimitsCanMatter
[08:42]	TR News	"details" element https://css-tricks.com/quick-reminder-that-details-summary-is-the-easiest-way-ever-to-make-an-accordion/ | Source: CSS Tricks
[08:42]	TR Bot	Reminder that Details/Summary is the Easiest Way Ever to Make an Accordion | CSS-Tricks - CSS-Tricks
[08:42]	TR News	"My goals can be broken down into two parts. First, what types of IO (input/output) to support" https://jpieper.com/2022/06/24/beginnings-of-more-flexible-encoder-and-i-o-support/ | Source: J Pieper
[08:42]	TR Bot	 Beginnings of more flexible encoder and I/O support | A Modicum of Fun
[08:43]	TR News	"Circuit diagrams play a vital role in the design process for any electronics project." https://www.makeuseof.com/free-schematic-drawing-software-arduino-raspberry-pi/ | Source: Make Use Of
[08:43]	TR Bot	 Where to Find Free Schematic Drawing Software for Arduino, Raspberry Pi, and Other SBCs
[08:43]	TR News	"While Mac and Windows computers tend to dominate the discussions, Linux laptops deserve your consideration." https://www.popsci.com/gear/best-linux-laptops/ | Source: Popular Science
[08:43]	TR Bot	 Best Linux laptops of 2022 | Popular Science
[08:44]	TR News	"Not one to dismiss feedback lightly, I decided to actually test pretty much every program mentioned in these email responses" https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/notepadqq.html | Source: Dedoimedo
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Notepadqq - A powerful text editor, somewhat forgotten
[08:45]	TR News	"My talk at AppDevCon discussed the Requirements Trifecta but turned it into a Quadrinella" https://www.sicpers.info/2022/06/more-detail-on-software-requirements/ | Source: SICP
[08:45]	TR Bot	 More detail on software requirements | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers
[08:45]	TR News	"Some examples of sequencing across different disciplines" https://matt-rickard.com/sequencing/ | Source: Matt Rickard
[08:45]	TR Bot	 Sequencing
[08:45]	TR News	"Blockchains have significantly different constraints, security properties, and resource requirements than traditional data storage" https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/06/24/managing-risk-in-blockchain-deployments/ | Source: Trail Of Bits
[08:45]	TR Bot	 Managing risk in blockchain deployments | Trail of Bits Blog
[08:46]	TR News	"This walkthrough of the fundamentals of shell programming with Z shell (Zsh) and Bourne Again SHell (BASH) includes a comparison of similar components and features in R and RStudio." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/06/shell-vs-r-fundamentals-from-syntax-to-control-structures-with-zsh-bash/ | Source: Rlang
[08:46]	TR Bot	vs R Fundamentals From Syntax to Control Structures with Zsh & BASH | R-bloggers
[08:47]	TR News	"Right now, platforms have an easy answer to threats: Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act." https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/25/23181689/online-abortion-information-ban-roe-wade-section-230-first-amendment | Source: The Verge
[08:47]	TR Bot	 The brewing fight to keep abortion info online - The Verge
[08:49]	TR News	"For several years now, Minecraft has been split into two versions." https://gamerant.com/minecraft-chat-moderation-changes-microsoft-backlash/ | Source: Game Rant
[08:49]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Receives Backlash Over Minecraft Moderation Changes
[08:49]	TR News	Proprietary crap: "To accomodate the chat reporting system, chat messages are now signed using the user's keypair." https://blog.bithole.dev/mc-report.html | Source: Adriaan Zhang
[08:49]	TR Bot	 A Deep Dive into Minecraft 1.19.1's Report System
[08:50]	TR News	Microsoft just bought Minecraft to control (*manipulate) children. For more information ask Bill Gate and his BFF Jeffrey Epstein. They know all about kids....
[08:54]	TR News	"head of Microsoft Philanthropies" = head of a crime syndicate disguised as a charity, much like the Bill and Lolita Gates Foundation https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/3-5-million-cyber-security-jobs-will-open-up-by-2025/92447785 | Source: India Times
[08:54]	TR Bot	 3.5 Million Cyber Security Jobs Will Open Up By 2025, CIO News, ET CIO
[08:54]	TR News	Unlike corrupt EPO... https://www.networkworld.com/article/3665054/cisco-announces-plan-to-exit-russia-and-belarus.html | Source: Network World
[08:54]	TR Bot	 Cisco announces plan to exit Russia and Belarus | Network World
[08:55]	TR News	"Mediaphiles have had years to cope with the imminent demise of the Plex Media Player." https://www.androidpolice.com/plex-media-player-home-theater-pc-player/ | Source: Android Police
[08:55]	TR Bot	 After years of delay, Plex replaces its desktop media player client
[08:58]	TR News	"If youre scratching your head on why thats necessary, Mullvad explains in a blog post (spotted by TechRadar)." https://www.pcworld.com/article/794377/mullvad-vpn-ditches-subscriptions-to-protect-user-privacy.html | Source: PC World
[08:58]	TR Bot	VPN ditches subscriptions to protect your privacy even more | PCWorld
[08:58]	TR News	"A House subpanel on consumer protection approved a comprehensive data privacy bill, advancing the legislation to the full committee." https://thehill.com/policy/technology/overnights/3535277-hillicon-valley-data-privacy-bill-inches-forward-in-house/ | Source: The Hill
[08:58]	TR Bot	 Hillicon Valley Data privacy bill inches forward in House | The Hill
[08:58]	TR News	"The flash drive also contained sensitive information including tax details, bank account names and numbers, and information on households receiving public assistance such as childcare payments." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/24/asia/japan-amagasaki-usb-data-intl-hnk/index.html | Source: CNN
[08:58]	TR Bot	 Japan: Man loses USB flash drive with data on entire Amagasaki city's residents after night out - CNN
[08:58]	TR News	"It may sound like a crazy far-fetched dystopian claim, but its todays reality." https://itwire.com/science-news/health/eff-cybersecurity-head-warns-us-women-to-delete-their-period-tracking-apps-in-post-roe-v-wade-world.html | Source: IT Wire
[08:59]	TR Bot	- EFF cybersecurity head warns US women to delete their period tracking apps in post Roe v. Wade world
[08:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
● Jun 26
[09:08]	TR News	"Several mayors in Europe have been contacted by a fake mayor of Kyiv who has been saying absurd things" https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/european-mayors-duped-calls-fake-kyiv-mayor-85700329 | Source: ABC
[09:08]	TR Bot	 European mayors duped into calls with fake Kyiv mayor - ABC News
[09:08]	TR News	"Unfortunately, a minority of doctors seem to have recently obtained an outsized voice through the use of social [control] media" https://www.salon.com/2022/06/25/state-legislatures-are-effectively-helping-rogue-doctors-spread-misinformation/ | Source: Salon
[09:08]	TR Bot	legislatures are effectively helping rogue doctors spread misinformation | Salon.com
[09:14]	TR News	Minnesota farmers take the L on right to repair; heres why. Im sorry, I tried https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/minnesota-farmers-take-the-l-on-right-to:0 Source: rossmanngroup
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Minnesota farmers take the L on right to repair; here's why. I'm sorry, I tried 
[09:14]	TR News	Microsoft layoffs https://www.govtech.com/products/microsoft-layoffs-signal-a-changing-culture.html blocked by javascript
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Layoffs Signal a Changing Culture
[09:14]	TR News	"Cons: Intel UHD 620 graphics dont support gaming well" https://www.popsci.com/gear/best-linux-laptops/ that is their disadvantage in the category "work" :/
[09:15]	TR News	So-called 'open source' https://www.darkreading.com/application-security/open-source-software-bugs--attackability
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Only 3% of Open Source Software Bugs Are Actually Attackable, Researchers Say
[09:15]	TR News	Famous criminal who enables child sex trafficking... owns your farmland? https://nypost.com/2022/06/23/bill-gates-purchase-of-north-dakota-farmland-has-locals-livid-official/
[09:15]	TR Bot	 Bill Gates' purchase of North Dakota farmland has locals 'livid': official
[09:17]	TR News	Russia promises Belarus Iskander-M nuclear-capable missiles - BillBC News https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61938111 Source: BillBC, which covered up for Jimmy Savile and now does the same for Jeffrey Esptein's enabler Bill Gates while taking bribes from him
[09:17]	TR Bot	 Russia promises Belarus Iskander-M nuclear-capable missiles - BBC News
[09:17]	TR News	Microsoft is the REASON this is happenin.? Why does VICE treat the CULPRIT as the EXPERT? https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgyzqj/microsoft-compares-russian-hacks-of-ukraine-to-assassination-that-started-world-war-i
[09:17]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Compares Russian Hacks of Ukraine to Assassination That Started World War I
[09:18]	TR News	the REAL reason employers cant find workers in 2022 https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/the-real-reason-employers-can't-find:4 Source: rossmanngroup perpetuating the myth of lack of workers??
[09:18]	TR Bot	 the REAL reason employers can't find workers in 2022
[09:19]	TR News	Why does a famous criminal who has strong connections to child sex trafficking find it possible to do this? Are authorities OK with it? https://www.agweek.com/business/entity-linked-to-billionaire-bill-gates-pays-13-5-million-for-campbell-farms-north-dakota-farmland
[09:19]	TR Bot	linked to billionaire Bill Gates pays $13.5 million for Campbell Farms' North Dakota farmland - Agweek | #1 source for agriculture news, farming, markets
[09:20]	TR News	"The Pixhawk 6X is based on the Pixhawk FMUv6x Open Standard and the Pixhawk Autopilot Bus Standard." https://linuxgizmos.com/holybros-unveil-pixhawk-6x-and-pixhawk-6c-flight-controllers/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[09:20]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/holybros-unveil-pixhawk-6x-and-pixhawk-6c-flight-controllers/ )
[09:21]	TR News	"New Ipsos research carried out on behalf of Italian anti-piracy group FAPAV reveals that 43% of the adult population engaged in some type of audiovisual piracy [sic] in 2021" https://torrentfreak.com/movie-tv-pirates-increase-in-italy-but-they-are-pirating-less-than-ever-220625/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[09:21]	TR Bot	& TV Pirates Increase in Italy But They Are Pirating Less Than Ever * TorrentFreak
[09:21]	TR News	"Theres a schadenfreude going around when it comes to Julian Assange." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/the-assange-animus-and-the-spy-trial-ahead/ | Source: Scheerpost
[09:21]	TR Bot	Assange Animus and the Spy Trial Ahead scheerpost.com
[09:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[09:30]	TR News	Proprietary Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166492
[09:30]	TR Bot	 Proprietary Leftovers | Tux Machines
[09:30]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 25, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/irc-log-250622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/irc-log-250622/
[09:30]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 25, 2022 | Techrights
[09:31]	TR News	"digital authoritarianism" https://www.computerworld.com/article/3664078/theres-just-one-thing-businesses-can-do-about-the-splinternet-adapt.html | Source: Computer World
[09:31]	TR Bot	just one thing businesses can do about the splinternet adapt | Computerworld
[09:31]	TR News	"Netflix's first-quarter revenue call in April revealed slowing revenue growth" https://text.npr.org/1107360500 | Source: NPR
[09:31]	TR Bot	 Netflix lays off several hundred more employees
[09:32]	TR News	Patents lunacy. "The US patent office has rewarded somebody else with the patent on Hangprinter." https://www.gofundme.com/f/keep-hangprinter-free |
[09:32]	TR Bot	 Fundraiser by Torbjrn Ludvigsen : Help Keep Hangprinter Free
[09:33]	TR News	"It calls for a temporary restraining order on the proposed MetaDoor platform, which has been set up as a direct competitor to WorldCat" https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/claws-out-worldcat-sues-clarivate-over-plan-rival-platform | Source: Times Higher Education
[09:33]	TR Bot	 WorldCat sues Clarivate over Metadoor plan | Times Higher Education (THE)
[09:34]	TR News	[Old] "Those who willingly share papers are, in most cases, breaking copyright laws." https://qz.com/528526/academics-have-found-a-way-to-access-insanely-expensive-research-papers-for-free/ | Source: Quartz
[09:34]	TR Bot	 Academics have found a way to access insanely expensive research papersfor free Quartz
[09:34]	TR News	[Old] "requesting access to journal articles and books via colleagues and authors is a long-established academic practice" https://journals.library.ualberta.ca/jchla/index.php/jchla/article/view/26060/20281 |
[09:34]	TR Bot	 View of Scholarly Sharing via Twitter: #icanhazpdf Requests for Health Sciences Literature | Journal of the Canadian Health Libraries Association / Journal de l'Association des bibliothques de la sant du Canada
[09:34]	TR News	Assange https://dontextraditeassange.com/post/the-assange-case-international-solidarity-and-implications-for-press-freedom-globally/ | Source: Don't Extradite Assange
[09:34]	TR Bot	 The Assange case: International solidarity and implications for press freedom globally - Don't Extradite Assange
[09:36]	TR News	feeling alone again gemini://sud0nim.smol.pub/feeling-alone-again "I broke up with her over 6 months ago. I'm glad I did because I'm a lot more honest with myself now, but sometimes I miss her , or not her but being in a relationship"
[09:37]	TR News	"I'm planning to buy a new tablet/2 in 1 soon, that should be powerful enough for me to play with various types of software (let it be video editing softwares or the tty, games aren't a requirement), as well as install Linux in i" gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random2
[09:41]	TR News	The target audience for the "Microsoft loves Linux" lie isn't geeks. They know it's a lie. They know Microsoft is a big bunch of criminals. But Microsoft wants some young or non-technical people to think it is acceptable to like "Linux" and at the same time pay [1] the crime syndicate (Microsoft). Which HURTS Linux. [1] Or let is host a site, or code, or sell some physical peripheral...
[09:42]	TR News	Inflation Sparks Global Wave of Protests https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/inflation-sparks-global-wave-of-protests-for-higher-pay-aid/ | Source: Scheerpost
[09:42]	TR Bot	Sparks Global Wave of Protests for Higher Pay, Aid scheerpost.com
[09:43]	TR News	US Labor Organizers https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/25/can-workers-overseas-provide-tips-for-us-labor-organizers/ | Source: Scheerpost
[09:43]	TR Bot	Workers Overseas Provide: Tips for US Labor Organizers? scheerpost.com
[09:46]	TR News	Yesterday I went up to the Embedded World trade fair in Nuremburg, Germany" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/25/hacker-diary-embedded-world-2022/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:46]	TR Bot	Diary: Embedded World 2022 | Hackaday
[09:51]	TR News	The media fails to calls this a Jihadi attack https://truthout.org/articles/oslo-cancels-pride-parade-after-mass-shooting-at-gay-bar/ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/25/hate-crime-oslo-pride-parade-canceled-after-deadly-shooting-gay-bar https://today.rtl.lu/news/world/a/1932791.html
[09:51]	TR Bot	 Oslo Cancels Pride Parade After Mass Shooting at Gay Club
[09:51]	TR Bot	 'A Hate Crime': Oslo Pride Parade Canceled After Deadly Shooting at Gay Bar
[09:51]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - Norway: Two killed, 21 wounded in Oslo terror attack
[09:52]	TR News	So-Called Free Trade https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/25/continuing-damages-corporate-managed-so-called-free-trade | Source: Common Dreams
[09:52]	TR Bot	 Opinion | The Continuing Damages From Corporate-Managed So-Called Free Trade | Ralph Nader
[09:59]	TR News	NASA https://hackaday.com/2022/06/25/nasa-called-they-want-their-cockroaches-back/ | Source: Hackaday
[09:59]	TR Bot	Called, They Want Their Cockroaches Back | Hackaday
● Jun 26
[10:03]	TR News	The worst attacks have come from Jihadis so far https://truthout.org/articles/bigoted-attacks-are-injecting-fear-into-pride-month-but-we-wont-back-down/ | Source: TruthOut
[10:03]	TR Bot	 Bigoted Attacks Are Injecting Fear Into Pride Month, But We Wont Back Down
[10:18]	TR News	Download YouTube Videos with VLC (Because, Why Not?) https://itsfoss.com/download-youtube-videos-vlc/ Source: ItsFOSS | GNU | Linux | Freesw
[10:18]	TR Bot	 Download YouTube Videos with VLC (Because, Why Not?)
[10:18]		*matey (~matey@n2qpw3v9yas46.irc) has joined #techrights
[10:18]	schestowitz_TR	gm
[10:19]	matey	i see the timeline is full of stallman today
[10:20]	TR News	"It's release day, sorta. Both libopenraw and Exempi got a new release within two days. Here is what's up." https://www.figuiere.net/hub/wlog/release-day/
[10:20]	TR Bot	 Release day - Hubert Figuire
[10:20]	matey	and the lf is being its usual self if moreso
[10:20]	schestowitz_TR	gemini
[10:20]	schestowitz_TR	epo
[10:20]	schestowitz_TR	rms
[10:21]	schestowitz_TR	lf
[10:21]	matey	i dont suppose google has any legal obligation to remove rt videos does it?
[10:21]	schestowitz_TR	i don't think gulag specified
[10:21]	matey	i mean the sanctions havent gone that far, as far as i know
[10:21]	schestowitz_TR	it just banned rt, period
[10:22]	matey	well, maybe it will convince some people to leave youtube (probably not, but that would be cool)
[10:22]	matey	i used to have a youtube account
[10:22]	matey	every 6-12 monthts they would do something so fucked up i would delete it in protest
[10:22]	matey	then i wouldnt create a new one for a year or two
[10:22]	schestowitz_TR	yes, when did you dleete?
[10:22]	matey	the last time (this will date it of course) was when they rolled out country restrictions
[10:22]	schestowitz_TR	the worst f*ups were in recent years
[10:23]	schestowitz_TR	geoblocking was ages ago
[10:23]	matey	i considered it breaking the internet, and told them to go fuck themselves
[10:23]	schestowitz_TR	like 10 years?
[10:23]	matey	 geoblocking was ages ago <- yes, and we met not long after that
[10:24]	matey	the quote in techrights (i dont know if it had changed yet or not, but it was about that time either way) is still there
[10:24]	schestowitz_TR	gulagtube does nto make money
[10:24]	matey	of course, you dont know what handle i used back then
[10:24]	schestowitz_TR	but I cannot prove it
[10:24]	schestowitz_TR	nobody can
[10:24]	schestowitz_TR	except few in MANAGMENT there
[10:24]	matey	gulagtube does nto make money but I cannot prove it <- i mean
[10:24]	matey	they make enough to pay top producers
[10:24]	matey	im not sure thats significant from a business standpoint
[10:25]	matey	i dont have an mba
[10:25]	matey	my best man did
[10:25]	matey	we kind of lost touch after i moved out of state, and hes not big on electronic communcation
[10:25]	matey	even as my best man id only known him for a couple years
[10:26]	matey	but i never did get back onto youtube
[10:26]	matey	they added the phone number thing, and thats a dealbreaker
[10:27]	matey	i think i made it through two steps of fool them with an online voicemail, and said "this is silly, no one should have to do this"
[10:27]	matey	you may think its funny that someone like me would have a youtube account at all
[10:27]	matey	i mean, did i make videos?
[10:27]	matey	i made playlists
[10:28]	matey	i got to play dj / librarian
[10:28]	matey	i talked to people on youtube
[10:28]	matey	i didnt leave a lot of comments though
[10:28]	matey	its been a long time but i think i mostly talked in profiles, if that was even a thing
[10:28]	TR News	Phoronix continues jumping the shark. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CBL-Mariner-2.0-June-2022
[10:28]	TR Bot	CBL-Mariner 2.0 Linux Distro Now Supports Kernel Live Patching, PXE Boot - Phoronix
[10:29]	matey	i could be conflating that with some other online service
[10:30]	matey	my playlists wouldnt include songs that couldnt be embedded in a website
[10:30]	matey	if i found those i would remove them 
[10:31]	matey	the result though was that you could watch a string of videos that fit together nicely, or on a theme
[10:31]	matey	and it made things that werent meme-ish or mainstream discoverable 
[10:32]	matey	i really loved doing that, but today it just isnt the same
[10:32]	matey	i could have just listed urls on some website but i liked the playlist feature
[10:33]	matey	id consider doing the same on the internet archive but their interface is as much like treading on glue as the phoronix forums
[10:33]	matey	and its just a fucking pain to find anything (which does increase the value at least of people who work to do just that, but it makes it so tedious)
[10:34]	schestowitz_TR	nowadays the phoronix forums can be better han articles
[10:34]	matey	kahle at lieplanet is a farce, but everything about lieplanet is
[10:34]	matey	i dont think ia even uses free js
[10:34]	matey	and why not, its a non-profit based on the internet, kahle should know better
[10:34]	schestowitz_TR	his talk had technical issues
[10:35]	matey	i dont know if you mean it flickered or lost sound or contained points that contradicted facts
[10:35]	matey	the phrase is that broad
[10:37]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166493
[10:37]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[10:37]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166494
[10:37]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[10:38]	matey	lieplanet has technical issues
[10:38]	matey	its technically not about freedom
[10:38]	matey	they should call it fundraising planet, afaict
[10:38]	matey	i dont know if/how it affects the budget
[10:39]	matey	but its typical for non-profits to have fundraiser events, on top of membership drives
[10:39]	matey	i presume thats the niche lieplanet fills
[10:39]	matey	they also increase "awareness" (in the early part of a nonprofits life, for the cause-- in the latter part, for the org itself)
[10:39]	matey	"we still exist!"
[10:39]	schestowitz_TR	is has sponsors
[10:39]	matey	no you dont
[10:39]	schestowitz_TR	and they get thiongs in exchange for the sponsorship
[10:40]	matey	is has sponsors <- heh
[10:40]	schestowitz_TR	I compared that to LF 'lite'
[10:40]	matey	and they get thiongs in exchange for the sponsorship <- heh
[10:40]	matey	I compared that to LF 'lite' <- if the shoe fits
[10:40]	schestowitz_TR	atm, purism is one sponsor of fsf
[10:40]	schestowitz_TR	so even if purism does something wrong, fsf cannot talk about that
[10:40]	matey	or since these are tech people
[10:40]	matey	if the foo shits
[10:40]	schestowitz_TR	same for system while ibm and red hat paid
[10:40]	schestowitz_TR	but they won't admit this
[10:40]	schestowitz_TR	rms was careful about gulag
[10:41]	matey	purism is one sponsor of fsf <- thats just sad
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	it was at one point biggest sponsor iirc
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	they gave an award to one employee
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	who boosted intel/microsoft 'secure' boot
[10:41]	matey	same for system while ibm and red hat paid <- yeah, i remember when we talked about that
[10:41]	matey	but it seems clear...
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	which they had COMPLAINED about
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	for over a year
[10:41]	matey	that even after funding is pulled
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	while intel paid fsf
[10:41]	matey	the "gesture" (that is, self-censorship) remains
[10:41]	schestowitz_TR	all those sponsorships make a multidimensional space for speech
[10:42]	matey	so you can pay the fsf to NOT FIGHT for your freedom
[10:42]	schestowitz_TR	you need to memroise which company does what and whether it pays you and how much
[10:42]	matey	which imo is fraud, but i doubt the sec / ftc gives a shit
[10:42]	schestowitz_TR	before you utter  a senstence
[10:42]	matey	i mean, it might be fraud on a moral level, they have legal people to figure out what they can get away with 
[10:42]	matey	all those sponsorships make a multidimensional space for speech <- you mean for censorship
[10:43]	matey	also, i think youre shoehorning all their failures into a single cause / factor
[10:43]	schestowitz_TR	PIA was the biggest FSF sponsor for a year
[10:43]	schestowitz_TR	while it ran freenode
[10:43]	matey	i dont believe sponsors are the only factor in their silence / uselessness / corruption / fecklessness
[10:43]	matey	of course we agree they play a major role
[10:43]	schestowitz_TR	it was hurt when FSF finally pulled the plug
[10:43]	schestowitz_TR	not to self-host
[10:44]	schestowitz_TR	FSF should promote freedom bymaking its own comms
[10:44]	matey	libera is still a mountainous turd of stalinist bullshit
[10:44]	schestowitz_TR	own mastodon
[10:44]	schestowitz_TR	own peertube (it has this)
[10:44]	schestowitz_TR	own jabber
[10:44]	schestowitz_TR	own irc
[10:44]	matey	 FSF should promote freedom <- thats not what the fsf does anymore
[10:44]	matey	though if they did, that would be a good strategy
[10:44]	schestowitz_TR	not be controlled by liberaa staf that called on fsf to kick out its founder
[10:44]	matey	the problem with the fsf is
[10:44]	matey	first, they dont treat volunteers well.
[10:45]	matey	second, they are poached AND attacked by competitors and marketing trolls
[10:45]	matey	they make their own problems. then industry multiplies them.
[10:45]	matey	it isnt either/or
[10:45]	matey	maybe they could address their own problems
[10:45]	matey	industry is there to make sure that never happens
[10:45]	matey	note i said maybe-- not definitely
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	because they are a target
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	mayb e youm  cna emphatise more
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	or sympathise
[10:46]	matey	and i mean it in the past tense, not present or ffuture
[10:46]	matey	theyre done
[10:46]	matey	as in steak
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	vegan
[10:46]	matey	i sympathised for years
[10:46]	matey	i gave money to them
[10:46]	matey	they shit on users.
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	so did we
[10:46]	matey	im all out of fucks to give
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	no, they don;t
[10:46]	matey	YES 
[10:46]	matey	THEY DO.
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	they're being shat and sat on
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	by IBM
[10:46]	matey	and you apologise for them
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	by Intel
[10:46]	matey	its bullshit thought
[10:46]	schestowitz_TR	etc etc
[10:47]	matey	yeah well 
[10:47]	matey	if they cant fight
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	no, they're by far the LESSER evil
[10:47]	matey	and others can / do
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	among the other orgs
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	who would you support then?
[10:47]	matey	lesser evilism doesnt impress me at all
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	look at the "proxies"
[10:47]	matey	its a canker on american "democracy"
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	or approximates
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	OSI? SFFE?
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	far worse
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	EFF, CC>..
[10:47]	matey	again, youre playing the same game as every american "election"
[10:47]	schestowitz_TR	so tell me, who to follow on SF?
[10:48]	schestowitz_TR	SFFI?
[10:48]	schestowitz_TR	FSFi?
[10:48]	matey	the alternative to bullshit isnt LESSER bullshit
[10:48]	schestowitz_TR	was it IFSF?
[10:48]	matey	roy, i know this will fall on deaf ears, thats why im comfortable saying it
[10:48]	matey	there IS another free software movement being built
[10:48]	matey	if i relocated to the moon, it would happen with or without me
[10:48]	schestowitz_TR	to make progress you need allies
[10:49]	matey	i happen to be involved
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	by aliminating all possible allies as unworhty
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	you lessen chance ofi progress
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	not because of compromises
[10:49]	matey	 you need allies <- just because you dont know who they are, doesnt mean they dont exist
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	but because of weakness in numbers
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	I tturned some enemies of TR into allies
[10:49]	matey	lessen chance ofi progres <- yeah, the perfect is the enemy of the good, etc
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	over time
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	and sometimes they get tugged away from corporate bribes
[10:49]	matey	this isnt a utopian deal
[10:49]	schestowitz_TR	like LF money
[10:49]	matey	they get tugged away from corporate bribe <- which is why anticapitalism is the only hope for free software (imo)
[10:50]	matey	free software (by definition) neednt be anticapitalist, per se
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	I'd put it differently
[10:50]	matey	it just probably wont ever work without that
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	not anticapitalism
[10:50]	matey	I'd put it differentl <- of course you would
[10:50]	matey	 not anticapitalism <- mmhmm
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	becaus eit's "too anti" :-)
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	use a positive term
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	like pro-sharing
[10:50]	matey	you tought "boycottnovell" was too anti!
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	or commune
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	etc etc.
[10:50]	schestowitz_TR	digital commune
[10:50]	matey	i still think thats hilarious
[10:51]	schestowitz_TR	I didn;'t chose the name botcott novell
[10:51]	schestowitz_TR	shane did
[10:51]	matey	i know that
[10:51]	schestowitz_TR	techrights was tracy'sname
[10:51]	matey	shane had the right idea
[10:51]	matey	i didnt hate the name techrights
[10:51]	matey	i liked that it was broader too
[10:51]	matey	but boycottnovell wasnt too negative
[10:51]	schestowitz_TR	RMS antagonised it gently
[10:51]	schestowitz_TR	as he thought it did not emphasise freedom
[10:51]	matey	boycotts are an important part of standing up to corporate bullies
[10:52]	matey	you probably think "killercoke.org" is too negative 
[10:52]	schestowitz_TR	so we dded sentry.. he modeled it on JW's
[10:52]	matey	a website stallman promotes
[10:52]	matey	 he modeled it on JW <- im sure even if he grabbed one idea
[10:52]	matey	it was NOT modeled on anything else of theirs
[10:52]	matey	theyre a cult that protects child rapists
[10:52]	schestowitz_TR	iirc, it isn a newsletter's name
[10:52]	matey	im not saying its their main feature, like some kind of epstein shit
[10:52]	schestowitz_TR	or somethign to thateaffect
[10:53]	matey	but even as a side effect thats pretty nasty
[10:53]	matey	obviously, the catholic church is just as bad about this
[10:53]	schestowitz_TR	mormons too
[10:53]	schestowitz_TR	novell
[10:53]	matey	 it isn a newsletter's name <- not their publication is called the watchtower
[10:53]	matey	no, their ^{
[10:53]	schestowitz_TR	yeah
[10:53]	matey	obviously the "watchtower" isnt watching for child abuse
[10:54]	matey	they also split up families like the moonies
[10:54]	schestowitz_TR	I wonder what amish rms would look like
[10:54]	matey	but theyre WAY more mainstream
[10:54]	matey	you can find them on the sidewalks here
[10:54]	matey	i mean they had an amish computer, if you ever saw that
[10:54]	matey	i dont mean the lol one that ran on a chicken conveyor belt like a hamster wheel
[10:55]	schestowitz_TR	never saw that
[10:55]	schestowitz_TR	they should film it
[10:55]	matey	amish is a specrtrum
[10:55]	matey	the stricter ones dont use electricity but
[10:55]	matey	the main thing about the amish is staying off the grid
[10:55]	matey	no landline
[10:55]	matey	no electrical plants
[10:55]	schestowitz_TR	wood for heat?
[10:55]	matey	but some consider generators okay
[10:55]	matey	they use fuel
[10:55]	matey	wood is one kind
[10:56]	matey	some even use gmos, which i think is a terrible shame
[10:56]	matey	but thats not "on the grid"
[10:56]	matey	even if it sort of it
[10:56]	matey	the smuckers brand is from an amish family
[10:56]	schestowitz_TR	Pennsylvania  gets very cold 
[10:56]	schestowitz_TR	iirc, many have swiss roots... that's cold too
[10:56]	matey	some smuckers are still amish, others... the ones that have the company are hardly observant
[10:57]	matey	many have swiss roots <- i thought the whole point was they were "dutch" but i honestly dont know where they came from
[10:57]	matey	they remind me of roma, but i dont think thats their origins
[10:57]	matey	unless theyre some kind of dutch roma (i consider that farfetched)
[10:58]	schestowitz_TR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amish
[10:58]	TR Bot	 Amish - Wikipedia
[10:58]	schestowitz_TR	""Swiss Amish", Amish America, Type pad, archived from the original on March 2, 2009, retrieved March 26, 2009.
[10:58]	schestowitz_TR	"
[10:58]	schestowitz_TR	https://web.archive.org/web/20090302035944/http://amishamerica.typepad.com/amish_america/swiss_amish/
[10:58]	TR Bot	 Amish America: Swiss Amish
[10:58]	schestowitz_TR	Swiss Brethren
[10:59]	matey	https://amishamerica.com/an-amish-computer/
[10:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[10:59]	TR Bot	 An Amish Computer?
[10:59]	schestowitz_TR	say they speak "Pennsylvania Dutch."
[10:59]	matey	yes, its an amish website
[10:59]	matey	they speak "Pennsylvania Dutch." <- thats why i think 
[10:59]	schestowitz_TR	""Contrary to popular belief, the word "Dutch" in "Pennsylvania Dutch" is not a mistranslation, but rather a corruption of the Pennsylvania German endonym Deitsch, which means "Pennsylvania Dutch / German" or "German"
[10:59]	matey	but maybe its just the language
[10:59]	schestowitz_TR	"Pennsylvania Dutch is 'one of a handful of minority languages in the United States that is neither endangered nor supported by continual arrivals of immigrants.'"
[10:59]	matey	yeah i knew it was close to german at least
[10:59]	schestowitz_TR	"
[10:59]	schestowitz_TR	The Amish largely share a German or Swiss-German ancestry"
[10:59]	schestowitz_TR	So I remembered correctlyt
● Jun 26
[11:00]	matey	ahh, ok
[11:00]	matey	yeah, there it is
[11:00]	matey	id never heard that though
[11:00]	matey	and they make good solid furniture
[11:00]	schestowitz_TR	doiuble glazed
[11:00]	schestowitz_TR	double dutch
[11:00]	matey	a truck vs amish furnuture would be a fair fight
[11:03]	schestowitz_TR	who will win? stay tuned
[11:05]	matey	i honestly think the truck would win
[11:06]	matey	its only hyperbole to illustrate the quality of amish furniture
[11:06]	TR News	Links 26/06/2022: Shotcut 22.06 and More Netflix Layoffs | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/more-netflix-layoffs/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/more-netflix-layoffs/
[11:06]	TR Bot	 Links 26/06/2022: Shotcut 22.06 and More Netflix Layoffs | Techrights
[11:06]	matey	of which i own none, because i dont need furniture that makes a decent heirloom
[11:06]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166495
[11:06]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[11:07]	matey	on the contrary, i look for things that make it easier to move
[11:07]	matey	ive been a bit unconventional (but imo practical) regarding furniture
[11:07]	TR News	The One True Way of teaching maths gemini://republic.circumlunar.space/users/flexibeast/gemlog/2022-06-26.gmi
[11:08]	matey	in japan they sit closer to the ground, the tables are lower
[11:08]	matey	at least, traditionally. 
[11:08]	matey	i think they still do that, but i know theres more western influence now
[11:08]	TR News	"If youve been waffling back and forth on whether you want to, on net, have a /now/ page on your capsule, know that youre not alone." gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/~adiabatic/scrawlspace/
[11:08]	matey	its got to be a mix of things at this point
[11:09]	matey	asia is depressingly western sometimes, but its still distinctive in many regards
[11:09]	matey	and not everything about the west is worse either
[11:09]	schestowitz_TR	asia?
[11:09]	schestowitz_TR	asia where??
[11:09]	schestowitz_TR	asia is most of the world
[11:09]	matey	i was speaking broadly for a reason
[11:10]	matey	asia is most of the world <- and yet, not even all of russia
[11:10]	schestowitz_TR	asian mean "brown people" here
[11:10]	matey	if you say so
[11:10]	schestowitz_TR	*meaning
[11:10]	schestowitz_TR	indians, pakistanis, arabs...
[11:10]	schestowitz_TR	in uk : "asians"
[11:10]	matey	it may surprise you to know that indians consider themselves asian too
[11:11]	matey	its not just an exonym
[11:11]	matey	i know fewer pakistanis
[11:11]	schestowitz_TR	it's a connotion game
[11:11]	matey	not enough to get a good idea
[11:12]	matey	it's a connotion game <- you must have missed what i just said
[11:12]	schestowitz_TR	when some lebel is considered better you hijack it
[11:12]	matey	"its not just an exonym"
[11:12]	schestowitz_TR	like "bright" for atheists
[11:12]	matey	falling on deaf ears again
[11:12]	schestowitz_TR	they would not go by "gay"
[11:12]	matey	anyway, when youre referring to customs broadly common to a large region
[11:13]	matey	its not a "connotation" to refer to the whole region
[11:13]	matey	you dont say "sydney" when you mean the entirety of australia
[11:13]	matey	you dont say mexico when you mean north america
[11:13]	schestowitz_TR	words change meaning over time
[11:13]	schestowitz_TR	here, gypsy is no longer ethnic
[11:13]	matey	words change meaning over time <- i doubt that applies here
[11:13]	matey	 gypsy is no longer ethni <- what makes you think so?
[11:14]	schestowitz_TR	travelers-> gypsies
[11:14]	matey	gypsy is an exonym-- some take it upon themselves but its still used as a slur
[11:14]	schestowitz_TR	they can be irish
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[11:14]	schestowitz_TR	not egyptian or romany
[11:14]	schestowitz_TR	brb
[11:14]	matey	im not 100% certain irish travellers are completely separate from roma origins
[11:14]	matey	also romani is a language, the people are more accurately referred to as roma
[11:15]	matey	but its mis/used commonly enough that not many will likely correct it 
[11:15]	matey	when enough people get something wrong, it can (often does) enter the lexicon
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[11:16]	matey	im not 100% certain irish travellers are of roma origin, but im also not convinced they exist separately
[11:17]	matey	around 1500 years ago, they set out across the world (in different directions) and there is no unified/non-contradictory history of them
[11:17]	matey	its still being sorted out
[11:18]	matey	the links that have been made scientifically are cultural, linguistic and genetic
[11:19]	matey	earlier genetic studies were less specific, they found trends-- newer research is more detailed
[11:19]	matey	the linguistic findings are also telling
[11:19]	matey	imo cultural ethonographies provide hints and leads, at least
[11:20]	matey	for scientistsi mean
[11:23]	matey	Also (somewhat) like the cellphone, the computer has even affected the way some Amish communicatethere are a few Amish that use email, as Ive found as I continue to add to my (admittedly still meager) Amish email rolodex.
[11:23]	matey	https://amishamerica.com/an-amish-computer/
[11:23]	TR Bot	 An Amish Computer?
[11:25]	matey	In general, the Amish are more willing to adopt new technology if they can justify it for business reasons and they can keep it out of the home.
[11:26]	matey	 Amish Electricity, Living Off-Grid [Culture & Beliefs]
[11:26]	matey	www.electricrate.com/amish-electricity
[11:26]	matey	Way back in 2008, someone developed what was dubbed as the Amish computer. The machine is a basic word processor that came devoid of any features typical computers have. All it does is process documents and was touted as a machine made for plain people. From this, you can see that the Amish do use electricity in their homes.
[11:26]	matey	(some)
[11:28]	matey	The Amish are not allowed to own automobiles, and that is a rule they adhere to across all communities. The reason for this is that owning a car is a sign of status and could promote vanity and competition between members of the community. This is very much against the Amish values of modesty and the simple life. However, this doesnt mean that they are not allowed to use modern transport
[11:28]	matey	Theyre free to hop on trains and buses, even hiring taxis if necessary. The use of public transport is reserved for necessary business (including important social events such as weddings, funerals, barn-raisings, and auctions), with frivolous trips being highly discouraged.
[11:28]	matey	https://listverse.com/2015/05/24/10-modern-luxuries-the-amish-actually-use/
[11:28]	TR Bot	Modern Luxuries The Amish Actually Use - Listverse
[11:28]	matey	Biotechnology and the genetic modification of crops is perhaps the most modern farming technique one could think of, but 550 Amish farmers in Pennsylvania alone grow and harvest genetically modified crops
[11:28]	matey	too bad
[11:29]	DaemonFC	Right now, there are Web sites that offer to "help" women get abortion pills in the mail from India.
[11:30]	DaemonFC	I can see two things coming from this.
[11:32]	DaemonFC	1. The US Constitution says that if a state demands a felony extradition, then the state that person is in must surrender the person named in the arrest warrant. The only time the state that is responsible for extraditing the suspect has the ability to refuse is in misdemeanor cases, but in many of these states, abortion and helping people obtain one is a felony. Since the crime involves the state and one of its residents, they can press felony 
[11:32]	DaemonFC	charges against someone out of state for that and demand their surrender by the other state.
[11:32]	DaemonFC	2. More of these sites will go up and a lot of them will be sting operations set up by the states themselves. Women will get on there, identify themselves, and try to buy an abortion pill, and then they will have broken the law and given the government all of the evidence it needs.
[11:33]	matey	In 1993, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the US military, and the University of Alaska created the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, otherwise known as HAARP. Since then, numerous conspiracy theories have sprung up surrounding the mysterious project, everything from satellites that can cause earthquakes to huge transmitters that can create tornadoes and tsunamis.
[11:33]	DaemonFC	Primarily, I think the states are going to issue felony arrest warrants for the people operating the Web sites.
[11:33]	matey	However, what most people dont know is that there actually was documented weather manipulation project during the Vietnam War
[11:34]	DaemonFC	<matey> However, what most people dont know is that there actually was documented weather manipulation project during the Vietnam War
[11:34]	DaemonFC	Cloud seeding?
[11:34]	DaemonFC	Well, it didn't work.
[11:34]	matey	Operation Popeye was an five-year project in which the US government used the age-old technique of cloud seeding to increase precipitation during the rainy seasons over North Vietnams Ho Chi Minh Trail in order to disrupt the NVAs moving of vehicles, weapons, and rations across the trail.
[11:34]	matey	 The general idea of cloud seeding is to send an airborne object, typically an airplane, flying through a cloud while releasing small particulates that give water vapor something to cling to so that it can condense and become rain.
[11:34]	DaemonFC	They shut it down after they seeded a hurricane and it suddenly changed direction and hit Florida, iirc.
[11:34]	DaemonFC	Since the government didn't know if the seeding did that, they shut the project down.
[11:35]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye Operation Sober Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a military cloud-seeding project carried out by the U.S. Air Force during the Vietnam War in 19671972. The highly classified program attempted to extend the monsoon season over specific areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in order to disrupt North Vietnamese military supplies
[11:35]	TR Bot	 Operation Popeye - Wikipedia
[11:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, The Amish are pretty crooked, you know. They consider cheating "The English", which is what they would call me, to be perfectly fine.
[11:36]	DaemonFC	They consider us sinners and the damned anyway, so what the hell?
[11:36]	matey	The former U.S. Secretary of Defense, Robert S. McNamara, was aware that there might be objections raised by the international scientific community but said in a memo to the president that such objections had not in the past been a basis for prevention of military activities
[11:36]	matey	you can say that again
[11:36]	DaemonFC	They won't pickpocket you or anything, but watch what you're buying at one of their markets.
[11:36]	matey	The chemical weather modification program was conducted from Thailand over Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam and allegedly sponsored by Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and the CIA without the authorization of then Secretary of Defense Melvin Laird who had categorically denied to Congress that a program for modification of the weather for use as a tactical weapon even existed.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	The Amish are pretty weird, tbph.
[11:37]	matey	simply neglect to inform the secretary of defence, and the programme doesnt even exist :)
[11:37]	DaemonFC	Like they consider it a sin to drive a car, but if they pay someone else to do it and drive them around, that's fine.
[11:37]	matey	of course these days the military is MUCH MUCH more transparent
[11:37]	DaemonFC	Paying someone to sin isn't a sin? Oh wow!
[11:37]	matey	heh heh
[11:37]	DaemonFC	And partaking of it doesn't hurt you with God at all, you know.
[11:38]	matey	A report titled Rainmaking in SEASIA outlines use of lead iodide and silver iodide deployed by aircraft
[11:38]	matey	"seasia!"
[11:38]	DaemonFC	Now if you'll excuse me, I have some prostitutes to do business with. Not a sin! (just kidding)
[11:38]	matey	se presumably meaning southeast
[11:39]	matey	Reporter Jack Anderson published a story in March 1971 concerning Operation Popeye (though in his column, it was called Intermediary-Compatriot). The name Operation Popeye (Pop Eye) entered the public space through a brief mention in the Pentagon Papers
[11:39]	DaemonFC	In theory, since Illinois is a Compact State, we would have to respect an Amish horse and buggy using our roads, but since there are no Amish here and it's unlikely that the Amish would ride such a thing into Illinois, I don't think it comes up much.
[11:39]	matey	the same pentagon papers that snowdens report was compared to (by the same journalist responsible for the pentagon papers)
[11:39]	DaemonFC	They couldn't take them on the freeway of course, because they can't get up to at least 45 miles per hour, which makes it illegal to operate the vehicle on the freeway.
[11:40]	DaemonFC	matey, Two horse power. B-)
[11:40]	matey	Despite being one of the strongest proponents of the LGBT community today, Canadas history isnt as clean as one would think. In the 1960s, the Canadian government hired a university professor to create a gaydar, what it called the Fruit Machine at the time.
[11:40]	matey	The university professor, Frank Robert Wake of Carleton University, went about this by forcing subjects to look at same-sex erotic imagery while he measured pupil dilation, perspiration levels, and changes in pulse
[11:40]	matey	a gay lie detector!
[11:41]	DaemonFC	I have one of those older engines in my car that doesn't really work optimally until you've been driving it for about 10 miles.
[11:41]	matey	it wouldnt work of course-- straight people get aroused by gay things sometimes
[11:41]	matey	the human body/mind isnt so SPECIFIC
[11:41]	DaemonFC	I mean you don't have to warm it up for too long, but there's a very noticeable difference in the way it performs after it's fully warmed up.
[11:41]	matey	it doesnt have completely straight / completely gay modes
[11:41]	DaemonFC	There was not in the Kia.
[11:42]	matey	like some kind of sexual vim
[11:42]	DaemonFC	vim is a lie
[11:42]	matey	The program was part of a long-term effort to remove homosexuals from positions of civil service. In the late 1960s, funding was cut offbut not before the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had collected files on over 9,000 suspected homosexuals.
[11:43]	matey	hehehe 
[11:43]	DaemonFC	There's no way to improve on vim because it sucks too bad to ever start out with the mentality that you're going to improve it.
[11:43]	matey	"mounted"
[11:43]	DaemonFC	I'm telling you, the Canadians are more right-wing and fascist than anything going on in the US.
[11:43]	DaemonFC	It's just that they're so damned polite about it, you wouldn't think about it too much.
[11:44]	DaemonFC	Justin Trudeau wants more oil, is suing the US to try to force us to take more oil, and has the immigration policy of Donald Trump.
[11:45]	DaemonFC	And do they ever get any blame for it?
[11:45]	DaemonFC	Of course not. Like Bogus Johnson, Mr. Police Bill, they just say the Supreme Court's decision on abortion was "horrific".
[11:45]	matey	Operation Mockingbird was a 1950s program in which the CIA recruited and propped up various media organizations to influence public opinion. In April 1976, the Church Committee, a US senate task force, conducted an investigation into the CIAs influence over both foreign and national news organizations
[11:45]	matey	and stated that the CIA maintained a huge global network that provided intel for the organization and at times attempted to influence opinion through the use of covert propaganda.
[11:45]	DaemonFC	They bash us, act like their own failed country has no problems. Days, weeks, months...
[11:45]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR does it.
[11:47]	DaemonFC	An empire driven back to an island, where they pretend at the trappings of an empire, and blame all of their problems on "foreigners" and people who sleep on the bus.
[11:47]	DaemonFC	And then say the US is nasty.
[11:47]	matey	This Past Week the Linux Foundation Ran a Massive Misinformation Campaign in Texas and It Paid Media/Publishers to Repeat Lies/Spin
[11:47]	matey	maybe the linux foundation is a cia operation :D
[11:48]	matey	agent zemlin only uses a mac
[11:48]	DaemonFC	CNN was bashing Tesla for setting up in Texas.
[11:48]	DaemonFC	Like they're going to be headquartered ANYWHERE soon.
[11:48]	schestowitz_TR	layoffland
[11:48]	DaemonFC	The going out of business sale is coming. When the company fails, you won't be able to service your $160,000 car.
[11:48]	schestowitz_TR	mayeb they can share a building with netflix and microsoft
[11:48]	schestowitz_TR	see who turns the light off last
[11:49]	matey	imo netflix is going to be part of the next bubble
[11:49]	matey	and go the way of myspace
[11:49]	DaemonFC	The US is going the same way the UK did years ago, is now.
[11:49]	matey	but that seems hard to imagine now, and obviously it could last as long as hbo
[11:49]	DaemonFC	Tennessee passed the felony homelessness bill.
[11:50]	schestowitz_TR	tesla can be sold and folded, cheaply, into some automobile giant
[11:50]	DaemonFC	And that goes into effect in 5 days.
[11:50]	schestowitz_TR	for the brands
[11:50]	matey	i dont know when the next bubble would be
[11:50]	matey	but i must think its far off if it takes netflix with it
[11:50]	DaemonFC	The whole point is to chase them all out into some other state.
[11:50]	matey	tesla can be sold and folded, cheaply, into some automobile giant <- i mean
[11:50]	matey	i wont be surprised if it becomes part of gm in the long run
[11:50]	matey	that sort of thing
[11:50]	DaemonFC	What a great thing to do to other Americans. War veterans? The Republicans say they like those people.
[11:51]	DaemonFC	Like them so much here's a felony, you know.
[11:51]	schestowitz_TR	people who waste $160,000 on a "smart" car would bpay a lot of repair
[11:51]	matey	particularly when you consider that volkswagon now owns lambo
[11:51]	schestowitz_TR	a
[11:51]	schestowitz_TR	 "reomium" repair market
[11:51]	schestowitz_TR	here, that'll be $10000 for your replacement door
[11:51]	matey	if volkswagon can own a famous italian luxury sports car maker
[11:51]	matey	anybody could own tesla
[11:51]	DaemonFC	Illinois has a "Homeless Bill of Rights".
[11:52]	DaemonFC	It starts out with the legislative intent that it's the policy of the state that nobody should be homeless and that nobody will be charged with a criminal offense simply for being homeless, nor deprived of any legal right because of being homeless.
[11:52]	DaemonFC	So that's at least better than some states, like California and Tennessee.
[11:53]	schestowitz	[09:46] <techrights-news> Homelessness https://truthout.org/articles/arresting-unhoused-people-doesnt-fix-homelessness-police-do-it-anyway/ | Source: TruthOut
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Arresting Unhoused People Doesn't Fix Homelessness. Police Do It Anyway.
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[11:53]	DaemonFC	No it doesn't help them. It gives them a criminal background and then they CAN'T get a home because they cna't get a job or an apartment.
[11:54]	DaemonFC	You create a vicious cycle where all they can do is go back to prison.
[11:54]	DaemonFC	I don't respect that, you know. Kicking a person while they're down. And mjg59_'s politicians are doing that in California.
[11:55]	TR News	LOL "Using an External Graphic Card"... does not look safe and beats the purpose of the darn thing https://linuxhint.com/can-you-upgrade-a-gaming-laptop/
[11:55]	TR Bot	 Can You Upgrade a Gaming Laptop?
[11:55]	DaemonFC	First they tried making it a felony to "bring in a homeless person" and when the Supreme Court told California that American citizens can go wherever the hell they want to go within the country back in 1999, California launched the war against the homeless themselves.
[11:55]	DaemonFC	By making it a crime to sleep somewhere.
[11:55]	DaemonFC	They "get it".
[11:56]	DaemonFC	Then the Ninth Circuit said unless California wanted to give them a designated place to sleep at night, they couldn't arrest them for sleeping somewhere in public.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	The state that keeps attacking the homeless and setting federal court precedent is liberal Californai.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	*California
[11:57]	DaemonFC	It's not Indiana doing it.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	South Park even made fun of it in that episode with the homeless.
[11:57]	DaemonFC	Cartman singing "California....super cool to the homeless!".
[11:58]	DaemonFC	They were trying to lure the homeless (depicted as zombies wanting change for the bus) into California so they wouldn't have to deal with them in Colorado.
[11:59]	DaemonFC	It's a race to the bottom to see which state can be nastiest to them so someone else gets them all and has to deal with the problems it causes.
[11:59]	DaemonFC	States all do share one thing in common.
[11:59]	DaemonFC	They only value citizens who work and pay taxes.
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[12:00]	DaemonFC	Once you can't pay taxes and can't afford rent, they don't want you.
[12:00]	DaemonFC	Go bother someone else. If you don't leave after they read you the Riot Act, then you're going to prison.
[12:04]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/06/25/1107416457/monkeypox-outbreak-in-us
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Monkeypox outbreak in U.S. is bigger than the CDC reports : Shots - Health News : NPR
[12:04]	DaemonFC	:P
[12:04]	DaemonFC	Yeah, panic and blame gay people!
[12:04]	DaemonFC	-Bill
[12:05]	DaemonFC	We have one of those good vaccines. You'll test it like a broken Windows update and then pay patent licenses.
[12:05]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, I don't believe that 1.9 million lives in the US were saved by COVID vaccines.
[12:05]	DaemonFC	It's something they say after the fact so people aren't pissed at all the money that got wasted.
[12:06]	DaemonFC	It's impossible to verify, so they could say it saved 3-4 million if they wanted to.
[12:06]	DaemonFC	Even better.
[12:13]	DaemonFC	"Some of the most common offenses reflected particular challenges for someone living outside: failing to appear for court dates and keeping up with the terms of their probation or parole."
[12:14]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, Yes, they order you to have a job and a regular address if you're on probation.
[12:14]	DaemonFC	Obviously a court order that you'll have a job and a house makes both appear, right?
[12:19]	DaemonFC	https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/03/broken-windows/304465/
[12:19]	TR Bot	 Broken Windows - The Atlantic
[12:19]	DaemonFC	This says that "people in the neighborhoods would reassert control" eventually.
[12:19]	DaemonFC	People move around so much these days that they're unlikely to consider where they live to be their neighborhood to the extent that it's worth putting any work into.
[12:20]	DaemonFC	If things get totally out of control, you just rent another apartment when your lease is up and move.
[12:22]	matey	anyway to answer your question schestowitz_TR
[12:22]	matey	supporting any organisation that has failed to do its job for 7 years is pointless
[12:22]	DaemonFC	https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/inflation-economy-midterm-elections-2022/661354/
[12:22]	TR Bot	 Why Does 2022 Feel Like 1979? - The Atlantic
[12:23]	matey	the corruption continues with folding to coup demands in january, to making lieplanet more a farce in march
[12:23]	DaemonFC	"and, yes, an influenza epidemic broke out."
[12:23]	matey	it never ends
[12:23]	DaemonFC	Except it didn't.
[12:23]	DaemonFC	The flu never escaped Fort Dix.
[12:23]	matey	they are the former organisation known as the fsf
[12:23]	DaemonFC	But the vaccination campaign killed or paralyzed 146 people in America.
[12:23]	matey	osi is a former organisation that has achieved its goal of supplanting free software, for which you dont hold it accountable (only for other things that are important, but less so)
[12:24]	matey	both are non-answers to the problem
[12:24]	matey	non-solutions, non-starters. like asking whether we should use mozilla or chrome for privacy
[12:24]	matey	the correct answer is neither
[12:24]	matey	it would be BETTER, hypothetically and if it happens
[12:24]	matey	to have a REAL organisation that STILL stands for something
[12:24]	matey	the fsf never will. never. will.
[12:25]	matey	so IF but only IF such an org is built at some point
[12:25]	matey	or if im wrong (but im not) and the fsf became that again and actually answered for previous shit
[12:25]	matey	im not falling for their bullshit, its pretty plain to see
[12:26]	matey	thats great if such an org is built
[12:26]	matey	but it will be built, mark my words
[12:26]	matey	by individuals LIKE the ones who actually care about these issues today
[12:26]	matey	when no org bothers to care
[12:26]	matey	even dyne has sold out
[12:26]	matey	i still like its founder but hes not doing what he should
[12:26]	matey	dyne is a mess
[12:26]	matey	i dont think its bribes, i think its misplaced trust 
[12:27]	matey	until there is an org worthy of donations
[12:27]	matey	that ACTUALLY DOES what it says
[12:27]	matey	the best bet for now is inviduals
[12:27]	matey	i support individuals
[12:27]	matey	ill support an org if a real, honest, useful, non-corrupt non-useless one comes along
[12:27]	matey	i have no need for any of the ones that cant do shit for users.
[12:28]	matey	the fsf cant-- wont-- never will do shit.
[12:28]	matey	whats more
[12:28]	matey	you personally write apologetics for their nonsense for self-serving reasons
[12:29]	matey	keeping a foot in the door while throwing people who actually stand for something under the bus
[12:29]	matey	it means you get a story
[12:29]	matey	but the story you get is bs.
[12:29]	matey	thats the bone they throw you 
[12:29]	matey	and it doesnt keep you "in line" but you still serve the coup inadvertently
[12:29]	matey	you do their bidding sometimes, and thats too often.
[12:29]	matey	then you turn around and play for the other side for a while
[12:30]	matey	but only until they invite you in again
[12:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:30]	matey	that does more harm than good but
[12:30]	matey	hey, its your blog.
[12:31]	matey	also before you talk about guest contributions
[12:31]	matey	your posting overtook shane in the first 365 days i think
[12:32]	matey	guest contributions are a sliver of the whole thing, at least by post count (which isnt the only useful metric of course)
[12:32]	matey	its not hard to get concrete numbers on the percentage of guest contributions
[12:33]	DaemonFC	"People who should be linking arms to save democracy are grousing about their student loans and the price of gas"
[12:33]	matey	it really is YOUR blog. 
[12:33]	DaemonFC	LOL, this is ridiculous.
[12:33]	DaemonFC	Had Biden not cut off oil production, the Democrats wouldn't be about to blow the election with $6 gas on election day.
[12:33]	TR News	"Building and creating content for a Gemini capsule is a great excuse to play around, and create or enhance scripts. The only real problem is, that it has to stop somewhere, there comes a moment in time when it is "finished". Well, there are always small things that you could improve..." gemini://box.matto.nl/tinkering.gmi
[12:33]	matey	guest posts are welcomed, but frankly the collaboration (in direct contributions) is exaggerated
[12:34]	matey	there are a lot of people who help you indirectly, here for example. im well aware of that.
[12:34]	matey	the community, to put it in the most realistic possible terms
[12:35]	TR News	"This project has kept me super busy. I haven't ran Xen in over ten years. I haven't used Ansible for over five. I discovered how great Alpine Linux is outside of Docker. And most of all, I've fallen in love with OpenBSD." gemini://shit.cx/tech/meta/2022-06-26-new-tls-certificates/
[12:35]	matey	doesnt decide where the blog goes (not that it necessarily should-- it might help, but thats not the same thing)
[12:35]	matey	the blog goes in circles
[12:35]	matey	the community has some notable influence on where you stop for a toilet break
[12:35]	matey	but then its back on the road
[12:36]	matey	im not suggesting blogs have to be democratic
[12:36]	matey	its less about what it should be-- and more about what it actually is, vs what is portrayed
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[12:37]	matey	the tactics dont change, but the framing moves around now and then
[12:37]	matey	thats how it works
[12:39]	matey	i woke up today and there was a large spider in the bath
[12:39]	matey	in theory (sometimes in practice) i prefer to let them live, they can be useful
[12:40]	matey	but it was too early and the location was too unsuitable-- not only because it was the bath, but for other reasons
[12:40]	matey	im afraid s/he didnt make it
[12:40]	TR News	Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/26/mixtile-edge-2-kit-mini-pc-iot-gateway-supports-an-external-20a-battery-pack/ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware
[12:40]	TR Bot	 Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack - CNX Software
[12:40]	matey	first thing in the morning, a spider in the bath gets the water treatment
[12:41]	matey	it was also larger than i would have preferred, which was a factor in its demise
[12:41]	TR News	10 Fun Free and Open Source Role-Playing Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166496
[12:41]	TR Bot	 10 Fun Free and Open Source Role-Playing Games | Tux Machines
[12:41]	TR News	An open source project that opens the internet for all Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166497
[12:41]	TR Bot	 An open source project that opens the internet for all | Tux Machines
[12:41]	matey	the larger ones move too fast
[12:42]	matey	a much larger yellow garden spider (not common but making their way) would have survived
[12:42]	matey	i know exactly what they are, theyre cool
[12:42]	matey	but youd never find one inside anyway
[12:44]	TR News	EasyOS: Boot menu in initrd when no password https://bkhome.org/news/202206/boot-menu-in-initrd-when-no-password.html
[12:44]	TR Bot	 Boot menu in initrd when no password
[12:45]	TR News	EasyOS and similar sadly still outsourced to Microsoft proprietary software https://bkhome.org/news/202206/limine-373-compiled-in-oe.html
[12:45]	TR Bot	 Limine 3.7.3 compiled in OE
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[12:51]	TR News	"At this reading, I also for the first time met the people from O'Reilly"... so FSFE, which uses "FSF" in the name in violation of an agreement with "FSF", liaises with O'Reilly, which helped attack Free software with the "Open Source" canard https://k7r.eu/recent-readings-of-ada-zangemann/
[12:52]	TR Bot	 Matthias Kirschner's Web log Recent Readings of Ada & Zangemann
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[12:53]	TR News	Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166498
[12:53]	TR Bot	 Mixtile Edge 2 Kit mini PC/IoT gateway supports an external 20Ah battery pack | Tux Machines
[12:53]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166499
[12:53]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[12:53]	TR News	Motion Detection with PIR and Raspberry PI: HC-SR501 wiring and Python Code Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166500
[12:53]	TR Bot	 Motion Detection with PIR and Raspberry PI: HC-SR501 wiring and Python Code | Tux Machines
[12:56]	TR News	"By default, if you create a React application using create-react-app, the application does not use HTTPS. Enabling HTTPS for your app is useful especially if you plan to proxy requests to an API that serves them via HTTPS." https://www.makeuseof.com/create-react-app-ssl-https/
[12:56]	TR Bot	 How to Use SSL in a Create-React-App Application
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[13:00]	TR News	Edge opportunities guide Red Hats evolving partnerships with GM and chipmakers - SiliconANGLE https://siliconangle.com/2022/06/22/edge-opportunities-guide-red-hats-evolving-partnerships-gm-chipmakers-rhsummit/ Source: siliconangle
[13:00]	TR Bot	opportunities guide Red Hats evolving partnerships with GM and chipmakers - SiliconANGLE
[13:01]	TR News	The acronym "FLOSS" is being hijacked https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28776
[13:01]	TR Bot	 InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center
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[13:04]	TR News	Chaining together highly malicious spying devices... like a "boss"? https://gizmodo.com/google-chromebook-apple-macbook-chrome-os-update-phone-1849096712
[13:04]	TR Bot	 Google Mimics Apple's Convenience in Chromebook Update
[13:04]		*psydruid compromises the compromised software foundation a little more
[13:05]	matey	compromise! no opportunity evades your eyes! remember why the good lord made your eyes, so dont shade your eyes but
[13:06]	matey	compromise compromise compromise!
[13:06]	matey	only but to call it always please: strategy!
[13:07]	matey	https://www.fsf.org/news/compromise
[13:07]	TR Bot	 "Avoiding Ruinous Compromises" by Richard Stallman Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[13:07]	matey	a requiem for the fsf
[13:07]	matey	for the past 7 years, helping the fsf has only given them a platform to be hijacked repeatedly by the coup
[13:08]	matey	youre REALLY only helping the coup if you help the fsf
[13:08]	matey	the coup is all thats left
[13:08]	TR News	Speeding up autoconf with caching - Julio Merino (jmmv.dev) https://jmmv.dev/2022/06/autoconf-caching.html Source: jmmv
[13:08]	TR Bot	up autoconf with caching - Julio Merino (jmmv.dev)
[13:08]	matey	any "good people" still there are like slaves
[13:08]	matey	the civil war wasnt fought because america was fighting against the slaves
[13:08]	matey	it was fighting against their owners 
[13:08]	matey	(and a lot of it was opportunistic. but the outcome did help the situation with slavery-- ending MOST of it)
[13:09]	matey	if you want to own slaves you have to build a prison first. thats the new rules
[13:09]	matey	and it was a major reform
[13:09]	matey	there were more plantations than prisons
[13:09]	matey	the prison industrial complex is STILL working to catch up
[13:10]	matey	i mean it used to be if you owned something made of cotton, you had a product of slave labour
[13:10]	TR News	Minions 2: The Rise of Gru, is a movie about labor exploitation and capitalism. https://www.vox.com/the-goods/23177505/minions-2-rise-of-gru-explained-capitalism
[13:10]	matey	now, if you want cotton produced by slaves, you have to get specific brands-- like victorias secret
[13:10]	TR Bot	Minions 2: The Rise of Gru explains capitalism - Vox
[13:10]	matey	that really is progress-- even if its exaggerated (its not QUITE as much progress as it ought to be)
[13:11]	matey	what its NOT is a solution to the problem of slavery
[13:11]	matey	not solved yet
[13:11]	matey	progress can be 9/10 of a solution
[13:11]	matey	progress can also be 1/2 of a solution
[13:11]	matey	it can even be 1/100 of a solution
[13:11]	matey	this is why progress is such a slippery word
[13:12]	matey	the fsf is run by plantation owners
[13:13]	matey	who have taken the fight for freedom and turned it into subsidised, tax-free support for corporate applications
[13:13]	psydruid	some progress is actually regression
[13:13]		*psydruid is heading out the door again
[13:13]	matey	some progress is actually regression <- too much of it
[13:13]	matey	ACTION is heading out the door again <- cheers
[13:13]	matey	the fsf is regressive
[13:14]	matey	the more support they are given, the more damage they can do 
[13:14]	TR News	Tiny Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Robot Made For Robot Sumo | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-robot-sumo Source: tomshardware
[13:14]	TR Bot	 Tiny Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W Robot Made For Robot Sumo | Tom's Hardware
[13:14]	matey	they have become open source
[13:14]	matey	whats open source? controlled opposition
[13:14]	matey	the only fight for freedom going on is NOT controlled opposition
[13:15]	matey	it is independent of the fsf and its charlatanism
[13:15]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Pico Drives $10 Nintendo 64 Flash Cart | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-picocart64 Source: tomshardware
[13:15]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Pico Drives $10 Nintendo 64 Flash Cart | Tom's Hardware
[13:15]	matey	stallman wasnt a charlatan-- neither was oskar schindler
[13:15]	matey	hes not in, never again will be, in charge
[13:15]	matey	they use him like a prop
[13:15]	matey	like a brand
[13:15]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Pico Detects Gamma Rays in Open Spectroscopy Project | Tom's Hardware https://www.tomshardware.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-detects-radiation Source: tomshardware
[13:15]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Pico Detects Gamma Rays in Open Spectroscopy Project | Tom's Hardware
[13:15]	matey	the same way republicans use jesus
[13:16]	matey	i dont think he realises hes being used this way
[13:16]	matey	hes not stupid, he might notice
[13:16]	matey	but they lie to him and exploit him
[13:16]	matey	and even smart people dont always notice thats happening to them
[13:16]	matey	the scientists who worked on the manhattan project were not conquerors
[13:17]	matey	they were not warmongers
[13:17]	matey	if any WANTED the thing to be used, most did not
[13:17]	matey	einstein himself told the usa, you have to make this-- if you dont, HITLER will do it first
[13:17]	matey	the scientists believed they were doing something necessary
[13:17]	matey	they too were exploited, like stallman
[13:18]	matey	(some may have been bloodthirsty. im not concerned with exceptions. but these are hypothetical exceptions)
[13:18]	TR News	"Facebook hacks are out of control" https://www.techzim.co.zw/2022/06/the-sex-tape-link-facebook-hackers-have-hit-zim-heres-how-to-secure-your-account/
[13:18]	TR Bot	 The sex tape link Facebook hackers have hit Zim, here's how to secure your account - Techzim
[13:18]	matey	with stallman, his trust in people was what was exploited
[13:19]	matey	with esr, his narcissism was exploited
[13:19]	matey	if anyone can show that esr was a willing participant in this, apart from his ego being leveraged, show it.
[13:19]	matey	i dont wish to defend him, only to not accuse him of what he is innocent of.
[13:19]	matey	i dislike him greatly.
[13:20]	matey	as a tech person he had useful skills
[13:20]	matey	as a reformer, he was a charlatan.
[13:20]	matey	as a blogger, hes a fucking nutbag.
[13:20]	TR News	If Microsoft wants to detect criminals, Microsoft employees should turn THEMSELVES in https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-shutting-down-azure-facial-emotion-recognitio-1849090511
[13:20]	TR Bot	 Microsoft's Calling It Quits on Creepy Emotion Recognition Tech
[13:20]	matey	i consider him an opportunist
[13:21]	matey	even so, getting history right means...
[13:21]	matey	when you put the wrong person away for a murder-- even if theyre KNOWN for a fact to have killed someone else
[13:21]	matey	it only means the real killer goes free
[13:21]	TR News	"Microsoft isn't the first company to have second thoughts about facial recognition. IBM stopped work in that field over worries its projects could be used for human rights abuses." Just because ICBM got EXPOSED doing this. https://www.engadget.com/microsoft-retires-facial-recognition-ai-emotion-detection-183010078.html
[13:21]	matey	i dont wish to pin anything on esr he didnt actually do
[13:21]	TR Bot	will phase out facial recognition AI that could detect emotions | Engadget
[13:22]	matey	and let the real culprit off the hook
[13:22]	TR News	That just means mass surveillance city if one omits meaningless buzzwords https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/24/1053969/smart-city-unrealized-utopia/
[13:22]	TR Bot	 The smart city is a perpetually unrealized utopia | MIT Technology Review
[13:22]	matey	i think he played a role in the destruction of the fsf, but mostly i think he was used and exploited
[13:22]	matey	the pawn that thought he was king of something
[13:23]	matey	its too bad, because at least at one point i think he genuinely hated microsoft
[13:23]	matey	and osi became a base of operations for microsoft cronies
[13:24]	matey	thats a sad story
[13:24]	matey	and all esr can do is blame the commies
[13:24]	matey	because its a well known fact that microsoft is a front for the comintern.
[13:24]	matey	esr is a fool
[13:25]	matey	but he did some cool technical shit, which makes you wish you liked him
[13:25]	TR News	Windows 10 and 11 Downloads Mysteriously Halted in Russia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166277#comment-34141
[13:25]	TR Bot	 Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security | Tux Machines
[13:26]	matey	he thinks hes stallmans friend
[13:26]	TR News	ICBM: we helped Hitler profit, now we claim to "Fight Bias in Online Ad Targeting" https://www.usnews.com/news/technology/articles/2022-06-20/delta-kellogg-join-ibm-pledge-to-fight-bias-in-online-ad-targeting
[13:26]	matey	but people like esr dont know what a friend even is
[13:26]	matey	they treat people like tools 
[13:26]	matey	and sometimes they get used like one too
[13:26]	matey	maybe its karma, but the sort of person who uses people that way
[13:27]	matey	is often oblivious to being manipulated
[13:27]	matey	theyre paranoid-- but not wise.
[13:27]	matey	fearful-- but careless.
[13:27]	TR News	There's also social control media in the West, e.g. if you mention that Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein were bribing MIT https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/20/1054466/download-trolling-text-scammers-spam-china-social-media-censorship/
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[13:28]	matey	hes not half as smart as he thinks he is
[13:28]	matey	and you can see the results of that 
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[13:28]	TR News	Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi Pico Projects Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166501
[13:28]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi and Raspberry Pi Pico Projects | Tux Machines
[13:29]	matey	the people who attacked stallman are cut of the same cloth
[13:29]	matey	theyre hypocrites, mirror gazers, self-promoters
[13:29]	matey	theyll become tweet-sellers just like zemlin
[13:29]	matey	"lf-lite"
[13:30]	matey	lieplanet is lf lite because the people in charge are zemlin-lite
[13:30]	TR News	Stop saying "big tech"; you help lobbyists of criminals from Microsoft... also stop parroting statement from Microsoft. They're chronic liars who break the law like it's a bodily function https://gizmodo.com/salary-big-tech-microsoft-equal-pay-1849071451
[13:30]	TR Bot	 A Pay Transparency Reckoning Is Coming for Big Tech
[13:30]	TR News	Fan Builds Custom Miniature IBM Model F 40% Keyboard https://gizmodo.com/fan-builds-custom-miniature-ibm-model-f-40-keyboard-mec-1849070632 Source: gizmodo
[13:30]	TR Bot	 Fan Builds Custom Miniature IBM Model F 40% Keyboard
[13:30]	matey	lieplanet runs the fsf, not the other way around
[13:31]	TR News	"The 90s brought the era of globalization, the tech boom, and management philosophies that embraced cheap offshore production, creating a profitable but brittle global supply chain, one that no longer had national security front of mind." https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/us-supply-chain-semiconductor-production-economic-warfare/661267/
[13:31]	TR Bot	 The War in Ukraine Has Exposed a Critical American Vulnerability - The Atlantic
[13:31]	matey	its not the fsf anymore, its fsf/osi
[13:31]	matey	its not gnu/linux anymore, its ibm/microsoft
[13:31]	matey	why would people DONATE money to ibm/microsoft?
[13:31]	matey	they would have to be manipulated into doing that
[13:32]	matey	someone would have to bullshit them, a lot
[13:32]	MinceR	it gives them a cult to belong to
[13:32]	MinceR	like crApple
[13:32]	TR News	Sad that Quantum became a marketing buzzword if not junkword. Even flailing Mozilla uses it.
[13:32]	matey	+
[13:32]	matey	leah was right that the fsf is a cult (at least it is now)
[13:32]	matey	but its not a cult of stallman, its a cult of corporate shit
[13:33]	MinceR	https://nitter.it/pic/orig/enc/bWVkaWEvRGJGVUxTNlUwQUVGTG9wLmpwZw==
[13:33]	matey	using stallman the way rome/the pope/republicans use jesus
[13:33]	matey	not that stallman is (or would want to be compared to) jesus
[13:33]	matey	only hes not as bad as the people using him now
[13:34]	matey	/me wants a buddy stallman bobblehead guy, but wont buy it from the fsf directly
[13:35]	matey	 <MinceR> https://nitter.it/pic/orig/enc/bWVkaWEvRGJGVUxTNlUwQUVGTG9wLmpwZw== <- nihilism is cuter when tweens do it
[13:35]	TR News	15 Open-source Physics Simulation Engine https://medevel.com/os-physics-engine/
[13:35]	MinceR	i don't know if Jeff is a tween
[13:35]	TR Bot	 15 Open-source Physics Simulation Engine
[13:36]	matey	still, alice cooper does goth okay
[13:36]	matey	i didnt really respect him until he did waynes world, now i think hes awesome
[13:36]	matey	i was never a michael bolton fan until he did the jack sparrow video
[13:36]	matey	making fun of yourself is powerful
[13:37]	TR News	Re: Terminal Programs I Like gemini://szczezuja.space/gemlog/2022-06-26-Re-terminal-programs-i-like.gmi
[13:37]	matey	but the dinner they have at the white house for similar purposes isnt funny anymore
[13:37]	matey	now its like-- dont make me get the hose, mike godwin
[13:38]	matey	20th century dictators laughing about how evil they are
[13:38]	matey	"i bet you killed a bunch of jews and roma and russians this week"
[13:38]	matey	"haha! you know it!"
[13:38]	matey	"youre such a dick, adolf"
[13:38]	matey	"bahaha, its so true!"
[13:39]	matey	michael bolton at least, probably wasnt involved
[13:40]	TR News	Cortex XSOAR Tips & Tricks Creating indicator relationships in automations https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/06/23/cortex-xsoar-tips-tricks-creating-indicator-relationships-in-automations/
[13:40]	TR Bot	 Cortex XSOAR Tips & Tricks Creating indicator relationships in automations NVISO Labs
[13:40]	matey	i don't know if Jeff is a tween <- its a little known fact that no one over 30 actually runs the internet
[13:40]	TR News	Social Engineering KillChain: Predicting, Minimizing & Disrupting Attack Verticals https://ahead.feedly.com/posts/social-engineering-kill-chain-predicting-minimizing-and-disrupting-attack-verticals Source: ahead
[13:40]	TR Bot	 Social Engineering KillChain: Predicting, Minimizing & Disrupting Attack Verticals
[13:41]	matey	from the nsa to gchq, to jack dorsey to microsoft
[13:41]	matey	theyre all trying to get it BACK 
[13:41]	matey	and they do try, really hard
[13:41]	TR News	CRTC Chair Ian Scott Confirms Bill C-11 Can Be Used To Pressure Internet Platforms to Manipulate Algorithms https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2022/06/crtc-chair-ian-scott-confirms/
[13:41]	matey	the threat is a real one
[13:41]	TR Bot	 CRTC Chair Ian Scott Confirms Bill C-11 Can Be Used To Pressure Internet Platforms to Manipulate Algorithms - Michael Geist
[13:42]	matey	it shouldnt be taken too lightly. but we can still joke about it.
[13:42]	TR News	"In dystopian news we cover China using COVID tracking apps to lock down protesters" https://staceyoniot.com/podcast-why-there-were-56-ot-vulnerabilities-this-week/
[13:42]	TR Bot	 Podcast: Why there were 56 OT vulnerabilities this week - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[13:43]	TR News	Innovation Center Visits SparkFun - News - SparkFun Electronics https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4728 Source: sparkfun
[13:43]	TR Bot	Center Visits SparkFun - News - SparkFun Electronics
[13:44]	matey	"they may cut your dick in half, and feed it to a pig-- and though it hurts youll laugh, and dance a dickless jig"
[13:45]	matey	"and thats just how it goes, in life youre shat upon! though you die, la resistance lives on!"
[13:47]	matey	they didnt show donald rumsfeld in that movie, but among the other things he had in common was satan was
[13:47]	matey	he was also in bed with saddam at one point
[13:49]	matey	/me glees
[13:49]	matey	theres a mailing list thread for it!
[13:50]	matey	ha, figures
[13:50]	schestowitz_TR	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oYYnAX-zx-4
[13:50]	TR Bot	 Charles Hoskinson - Why Cardano Will Crush Ethereum And Others - Invidious
[13:50]	schestowitz_TR	LF now boosting "crypto" crap
[13:51]	matey	no discussion https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-fsf/2008-09/threads.html#00004
[13:51]	TR Bot	 info-fsf (thread)
[13:51]	schestowitz_TR	because it's PAID to do this
[13:51]	matey	 <schestowitz_TR> LF now boosting "crypto" crap
[13:51]	matey	like bigfoot?
[13:52]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptozoology
[13:52]	TR Bot	 Cryptozoology - Wikipedia
[13:53]	matey	"particularly those popular in folklore, such as Bigfoot, the Loch Ness Monster, Yeti, the chupacabra, the Jersey Devil, or the Mokele-mbembe."
[13:53]	TR News	After taking Cardano money, plus Dreck Hondahl's new job, the LF nowadays increasingly associates "Linux" with NFT and other scams. by boosting "crypto" crap and cargo cults it lends to this idea that Linux is a "crank" thing...
[13:53]	matey	the guy i met who worked on the manhattan project also went looking for the loch ness monster
[13:53]	matey	with jaques cousteu
[13:53]	matey	you may wonder what the connection is
[13:54]	matey	he was a specialist in lighting-- making optical switches for the manhattan project
[13:54]	matey	and inventing the strobe light
[13:54]	matey	so he made some underwater lighting equipment for jaques cousteu
[13:54]	matey	and what better way to test it than to go hunting for nessie
[13:55]	matey	if they found the monster, they didnt mention it
[13:55]	schestowitz_TR	wtf? smoking a fag and showing his bed all messed up. 
[13:55]	schestowitz_TR	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mKyedIQrI98
[13:55]	TR Bot	 Is Canonical Evil? - The Linux Cast Live! - Invidious
[13:55]	matey	wtf? smoking a fag and showing his bed all messed up
[13:55]	matey	what, linus working on the kernel in his bathrobe?
[13:56]	matey	/me has coded in less
[13:57]	matey	im sure some men write code in lace stockings and a neglige
[13:57]	matey	zemlin will still find a bathrobe to be a scandal
[13:58]	matey	the real atrocity is that richard stallman wrote emacs WITHOUT WEARING A TIE
[13:58]	matey	not even a bowtie, ffs
[13:58]	matey	how can you have any pudding if you dont eat your meat?
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[14:02]	schestowitz_TR	bowtie is IBM
[14:03]	matey	bowtie is IBM <- and the guy who (practically) invented timesharing
[14:03]	schestowitz_TR	bottomley
[14:03]	schestowitz_TR	 Linux SCSI maintainer James Bottomley 
[14:04]	schestowitz_TR	he has ben relatively quiet lately
[14:04]	schestowitz_TR	used to blog a lot more
[14:04]	schestowitz_TR	lwn showed a photo of him weeks ago
[14:04]	schestowitz_TR	still wearing the bowtie
[14:05]	schestowitz_TR	https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2248551674/photo_james_w800_400x400.jpg
[14:05]	matey	i was thinking of this guy https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q07PhW5sCEk
[14:05]	TR Bot	 1963 Timesharing: A Solution to Computer Bottlenecks - Invidious
[14:05]	schestowitz_TR	https://cdn.facesofopensource.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/09202139/bottemley.faces22141.web_.jpg
[14:05]	schestowitz_TR	https://static.lwn.net/images/2022/lsfmm-bottomley-sm.png
[14:05]	schestowitz_TR	that's the recent one I saw ^
[14:05]	schestowitz_TR	white hair
[14:05]	schestowitz_TR	either the colour changed fast or he stopped with the dyes
[14:06]	matey	theres a guy from mongolia wearing a bowtie here https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RPUsuDTnnFM
[14:06]	TR Bot	 Looking For Love In A Ukrainian Village ( Isn't Easy ) - Invidious
[14:06]	matey	as racist as it may be, i find it really hard not to picture him throwing a hat as a weapon...
[14:06]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.linux.com/images/stories/714/james_bottomley-1312393394.jpg
[14:06]	matey	(i dont think thats actually racist though. hes built just like the guy)
[14:06]	matey	(ben even hired him as his 'bodyguard')
[14:06]	matey	(and hes in a fucking bowtie)
[14:07]	schestowitz_TR	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2f_Vjz66gh8
[14:07]	TR Bot	 that 60s russian lalala singing guy love him (him = "Edward Gil") - Invidious
[14:07]	schestowitz_TR	XRevan86  can translate this to us
[14:07]	schestowitz_TR	he looks a bit like bottomley
[14:07]	matey	i didnt know bottomley was a stocky asian guy
[14:08]	XRevan86	> a 1976 video of Khil singing a non-lexical vocable version of the song "I am very glad, as I'm finally returning back home"
[14:08]	schestowitz_TR	wow, 1976
[14:08]	matey	> a 1976 video of Khil
[14:09]	matey	/me wonders what katharsisdril is up to
[14:09]	matey	the world is full of more intrigue than his comic right now
[14:10]	matey	i think his comic became harder to follow when he moved his website to some other platform
[14:10]	matey	like tumblr or whatever it was
[14:10]	matey	i hope im wrong, that would be lovely
[14:11]	XRevan86	Apparently the recording is from a tour in Sweden.
[14:13]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/252589
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Ukrainian Armed Forces start using HIMARS MLRS to shell Russian military facilities. Video
[14:13]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/252591
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Apartment building in Kyiv shelled
[14:15]	matey	"A subset of cryptozoology promotes the pseudoscience of Young Earth creationism, rejecting conventional science in favor of a Biblical interpretation"
[14:15]	XRevan86	The woman is a Russian citizen, and her (Ukrainian citizen) husband died.
[14:15]	matey	if you want to go to a cryptozoo, you need to pay them in cryptocurrency
[14:15]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/26/russias-war-protesting-artists-denied-concerts-by-authorities-news "Russias war protesting artists denied concerts by authorities"
[14:15]	TR Bot	 . 
[14:16]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/kids-eat-free.png   ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-kids-eat-free#comic )
[14:16]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[14:16]	matey	Media outlets have often uncritically disseminated information from cryptozoologist sources, including newspapers that repeat false claims made by cryptozoologists or television shows that feature cryptozoologists as monster hunters (such as the popular and purportedly nonfiction American television show MonsterQuest, which aired from 2007 to 2010).
[14:16]	XRevan86	https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/26/7354718/ this article covers that detail
[14:16]	TR Bot	 Missile strike on Kyiv causes fatality | Ukrayinska Pravda
[14:17]	matey	they do similar promotion of quakery such as iraq war justification and microsoft
[14:17]	matey	sorry, thats quackery
[14:17]	matey	/me didnt mean to implicate quakers
[14:18]	matey	"quakers settled and built this town-- mostly so they could use it to sell dr maxs miracle serum!"
[14:19]	schestowitz_TR	so now ukraine plays with American toys
[14:19]	MinceR	or so they had a place for LAN parties
[14:19]	schestowitz_TR	totally not proxy war!
[14:19]	MinceR	what's belarus doing?
[14:19]	matey	if youre going to have a proxy war, you should do it at a lan party
[14:19]	MinceR	:>
[14:19]	matey	that way the other teams dont know how to mitm you
[14:19]	schestowitz_TR	"Depending on the ammunition, the range is from 45 to 500 km.
[14:19]	schestowitz_TR	"
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	They make nintendo-like 8-bit sounds
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	like it's a game
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	they kill people
[14:20]	MinceR	"Videogames don't kill people, I do!"
[14:20]	matey	"pew pew pew?"
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	Reasonable! Otherwise, if our cities had been attacked, the Russian Armed Forces would have carried out their threat and struck at the centers of these criminal decisions. Some of them are not in Kiev at all. I don't need to explain what happens next.
[14:20]	schestowitz_TR	Biden lips icevream
[14:20]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1540836111781691392
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR	as Russian fires at apartment buildings
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR	with humans, digs, cats
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[14:21]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1541035666187980800
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR	US fanning the flames, still
[14:21]	schestowitz_TR	not that Putin is justified
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[14:21]	schestowitz_TR	they just ruin the world
[14:21]	matey	han pewed first
[14:22]	schestowitz_TR	as they did for many decades after ww2
[14:22]	MinceR	should they just appease vladolf instead?
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Russia is pretty angry with Germany these days. Emboldened by his recent meetings with Putin, top pro-Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov threatened Berlin and insulted Olaf Scholz for helping Ukraine and criticizing the Kremlin (clips from 2 recent broadcasts)."|nitter
[14:22]	schestowitz_TR	then in 2000 the US became hardly morally better than Russia
[14:22]	MinceR	"yes, you can have ukraine"
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Andrey Gurulyov, State Duma deputy, former deputy commander of Russia's southern military district, discussed how to best attack the West, while also purging internal opposition & hunting them down abroad. Fellow propagandist warned I would use those quotes, but he kept talking."|nitter
[14:22]	MinceR	"yes, you can have moldova"
[14:22]	schestowitz_TR	and that has hardly changed since
[14:22]	MinceR	"yes, you can have lithuania"
[14:22]	MinceR	"yes, you can have hungary, just please don't go beyond the eastern bloc"
[14:22]	MinceR	you know the west tried that before, and it didn't work
[14:23]	MinceR	it started with poland that time, iirc
[14:23]	matey	https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/russia-under-sanctions-but-putin-becomes-new-fsf-president
[14:23]	TR Bot	( status 404 @ https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/russia-under-sanctions-but-putin-becomes-new-fsf-president )
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	now they just need th write that page
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	and choose this URL slug
[14:24]	MinceR	:>
[14:24]	matey	you heard it here first!
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	matey: OK, when does Putin send weapons to guam?
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	MinceR: ^
[14:24]	schestowitz_TR	or to cuba?
[14:25]	matey	is this like a riddle? or a pun?
[14:25]	MinceR	he can't even afford to supply his own army
[14:25]	matey	 he can't even afford to supply his own arm <- 
[14:25]	matey	he needs to make those tanks with a replacable turret that has a second fuel tank
[14:25]	schestowitz_TR	'replenish'
[14:25]	MinceR	he needs to suck off a shotgun
[14:25]	matey	we herd you like tanks, so we put a tank your tank so you can refuel while you refuel
[14:26]	matey	 he needs to suck off a shotgun <- tbh an exhaust pipe would work just as well
[14:26]	matey	even from a tank!
[14:26]	schestowitz_TR	what percent of "modern" russian tasks are even destroyed?
[14:26]	schestowitz_TR	They can make lots of new ones
[14:26]	matey	they must emit exhaust somewhere...
[14:26]	schestowitz_TR	maybe faster than they get destroyed
[14:26]	XRevan86	schestowitz: Define ""modern" russian tank".
[14:26]	MinceR	they can make them if they can smuggle tech in from red china
[14:26]	matey	what percent of "modern" russian tasks are even destroyed? <- enough to make the invasion look iffy
[14:26]		*schestowitz_TR checks how many tanks germany made in rearmanment
[14:27]	matey	 they can make them if they can smuggle tech in from red china <- ohho, touchscreen controls!
[14:27]	schestowitz_TR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanks_in_the_German_Army
[14:27]	TR Bot	 Tanks in the German Army - Wikipedia
[14:27]	matey	"i cant find them, where did they go?"
[14:27]	matey	"here, pinch to zoom out like this"
[14:27]	MinceR	also, if they can afford to pay their workers
[14:27]	XRevan86	Armata? They haven't seen in combat at all.
[14:28]	XRevan86	A real modern Russian tank is T-72.
[14:28]	matey	"fire at bill!"
[14:28]	matey	"AT BILL!"
[14:28]	matey	"damn autocorrect"
[14:28]	MinceR	it's william either way, they'll know whom to shoot
[14:29]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/03/15/how-many-tanks-does-russia-have-in-ukraine-and-how-many-have-they-lost-so-far/?sh=46239d1a5682
[14:29]	TR Bot	 How Many Tanks Does Russia Have In Ukraine And How Many Has It Lost So Far?
[14:29]	matey	he must be the guy in the red shirt
[14:29]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/05/25/the-russian-army-is-running-out-of-tanks-for-the-war-in-ukraine-these-60-year-old-t-62s-are-proof/?sh=3b8411b052ec
[14:29]	TR Bot	 The Russian Army Is Running Out Of Tanks For The War In Ukraine. These 60-Year-Old T-62s Are Proof.
[14:29]	schestowitz_TR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_main_battle_tanks_by_country
[14:29]	TR Bot	 List of main battle tanks by country - Wikipedia
[14:30]	matey	/me wonders why putin wants military tech that can be all be defeated by john conner
[14:30]	matey	its like he didnt see the movies!
[14:30]	schestowitz_TR	Egypt has about 4000, mostly American
[14:31]	schestowitz_TR	most of ukraine's are soviet tanks
[14:31]	matey	if you see a russian tank being lowered into a vat of molten metal, youll know why
[14:31]	matey	russian tanks cant self-terminate. fortunately they dont have to.
[14:32]	XRevan86	Most of Ukraine's are T-72's
[14:32]	MinceR	putler should self-terminate
[14:32]	schestowitz_TR	this says russia has about 15000 thanks
[14:32]	schestowitz_TR	inc. in storage
[14:32]	schestowitz_TR	*tanks
[14:32]	schestowitz_TR	no thanks
[14:33]	MinceR	how many of them work?
[14:33]	matey	<MinceR> putler should self-terminate <- maybe he can morph into a tank, and then get taken out by shoulder-launched weapons
[14:33]	MinceR	how many of them can they supply outside orcland?
[14:33]	XRevan86	MinceR: I was about to say. That's the main catch.
[14:33]	MinceR	how many of them do they have trained operators for?
[14:33]	XRevan86	And the reason why T-62 are being deployed: they are generally in better condition as because they're phased out, they weren't stripped for parts.
[14:33]	schestowitz_TR	fchina supplies tanks to african nations
[14:34]	XRevan86	And because they're much more archaic, they weren't stripped for valuables.
[14:34]	matey	 they are generally in better condition as because they're phased out, <- my god, hes using windows strategy
[14:34]	MinceR	lol
[14:34]	schestowitz_TR	has a working fleet of over 5000 chinese-made tanks
[14:34]	matey	the new tanks will be called: russian EDGE!
[14:34]	schestowitz_TR	they are good for running ovrer students
[14:34]	schestowitz_TR	"low risk" attack
[14:34]	schestowitz_TR	to the tank operator
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[14:34]	matey	#techrights : 06/26/22 13:34  <- except for that one dude (he was too tall)
[14:34]	MinceR	finally, an improvement on russian GSM
[14:34]	matey	chinese students are not known for their height
[14:34]	schestowitz_TR	the main one is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_96_tank
[14:34]	TR Bot	 Type 96 tank - Wikipedia
[14:35]	matey	they are good for running ovrer students <- was responding to this of course
[14:35]	schestowitz_TR	"ManufacturerFirst Inner Mongolia Machinery Factory"
[14:35]	schestowitz_TR	Mongolia... maybe the next Tibet
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	"capable of firing ATGMs and depleted uranium rounds"
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	""According to the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) The Military Balance, the Russians have 2,800 tanks and 13,000 other armored vehicles (reconnaissance and infantry fighting vehicles) in units with another 10,000 tanks and 8,500 armored vehicles in storage.12 Apr 2022
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	"While Ukrainian losses should not be underestimated, Russia's tribute in terms of lost vehicles either destroyed or captured is huge and reaches levels not seen since World War II, with almost 800 lost tanks now visually confirmed through open-source data, and around 3,500 other armored vehicles.2 days ago
[14:37]	schestowitz_TR	"
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	so that sort of settles the original question
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	they have many left
[14:38]	schestowitz_TR	and took many cities already
[14:39]	schestowitz_TR	but without nukes and planes (blitz) they can't get far further than ukraine
[14:39]	matey	when putin sends in replacements: https://www.flushmaterepairparts.com/parts-by-category/replacement-tanks
[14:39]	TR Bot	 You are being redirected...
[14:39]	schestowitz_TR	without influx of arms
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[14:39]	schestowitz_TR	hi, alf 
[14:40]	matey	"and depleted uranium rounds" <- just what the world needs more of
[14:40]	schestowitz_TR	mongolia's poulation is very small
[14:40]	schestowitz_TR	china could take it ina  day without a shot fired
[14:40]	schestowitz_TR	like crimea
[14:40]	schestowitz_TR	what would donald biden do?
[14:40]	matey	<schestowitz_TR> mongolia's poulation is very small <- but stocky
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	like pood the bear
[14:41]	matey	im just saying, i woudlnt talk about their size face-to-face
[14:41]	schestowitz_TR	pooh\
[14:42]	TR News	How To Put Linux On A Laptop <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://linuxhint.com/how-to-put-linux-on-a-laptop/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
[14:42]	TR Bot	 How To Put Linux On A Laptop
[14:42]	matey	pooh the bear gives china its own internet
[14:42]	matey	but its actually a honeypot
[14:43]	TR News	What Is cURL Command and How to Use It (With Examples) https://linuxiac.com/curl-command-in-linux-with-exaples/ Source: linuxiac
[14:43]	TR Bot	 What Is cURL Command and How to Use It (With Examples)
[14:43]	TR News	How To Put Linux On A Laptop https://linuxhint.com/how-to-put-linux-on-a-laptop/ Source: LinuxHint | GNU | Linux | FreeSW 
[14:44]	matey	https://citizenlab.ca/2022/04/the-new-yorker-how-democracies-spy-on-their-citizens/
[14:44]	TR Bot	 The New Yorker: How democracies spy on their citizens - The Citizen Lab
[14:45]	matey	https://citizenlab.ca/2022/02/reuters-how-a-saudi-womans-iphone-revealed-hacking-around-the-world/
[14:45]	TR Bot	 Reuters: How a Saudi woman's iPhone revealed hacking around the world - The Citizen Lab
[14:45]	MinceR	https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/selfie-stick2.gif   ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-selfie-stick#comic )
[14:45]	TR Bot	& Happiness (Explosm.net)
[14:47]	matey	https://citizenlab.ca/2022/05/bada-bing-bada-boom-microsoft-bings-chinese-political-censorship-autosuggestions-north-america/
[14:47]	TR Bot	 Bada Bing, Bada Boom: Microsoft Bings Chinese Political Censorship of Autosuggestions in North America - The Citizen Lab
[14:47]	matey	chinasoft!
[14:49]	MinceR	jyna
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[14:53]	matey	/me got free chopsticks yesterday
[14:53]	matey	theyre usually free, but you usually get them with a meal
[14:53]	matey	i offered to buy them
[14:54]	matey	theyre the fancy (disposable) ones too-- rounded at the end you dont eat with
[14:54]	matey	ill have to eat there some time soon-- i was actually getting takeout from a place that doesnt have them :/
[14:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[15:01]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166502
[15:01]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[15:02]	schestowitz_TR	matey: r u jynis?
[15:02]	schestowitz_TR	* MinceR 
[15:06]	TR News	Clown computing = vendor lockin and proprietary software. Let's NOT promote that. Like the "serverless" lie. https://lemire.me/blog/2022/06/23/filtering-numbers-quickly-with-sve-on-amazon-graviton-3-processors/
[15:06]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/06/23/filtering-numbers-quickly-with-sve-on-amazon-graviton-3-processors/ )
[15:08]	TR News	Weird 'humour' https://lunduke.substack.com/p/google-pulls-plug-on-sentient-ai
[15:08]	TR Bot	 Google pulls plug on "Sentient A.I." after it begins using Arch Linux
[15:10]	TR News	"Migrant workers are returning to their home states again as COVID-19 pandemic lashes out brutally at several urban centres" https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/economy/will-mgnrega-help-again-rs-1-387-crore-pending-in-wages-76585
[15:10]	TR Bot	 Will MGNREGA help again? Rs 1,387 crore pending in wages
[15:10]	TR News	Daycare apps are insecure surveillance dumpster-fires https://pluralistic.net/2022/06/23/peek-a-boo/#attack-helicopter-parenting "Apps are like software, only worse."
[15:10]	TR Bot	 Pluralistic: 23 Jun 2022 Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
[15:12]	matey	 matey: r u jynis? <- no, im indian
[15:12]	matey	oh you were asking mincer
[15:13]	matey	i think hes from neither land
[15:15]	TR News	Adding a new application shortcut to the panel in Lubuntu https://www.mycomputertips.co.uk/304
[15:15]	TR Bot	 Adding a new application shortcut to the panel in Lubuntu, Lubuntu
[15:16]	matey	867-5309 (jyni)
[15:25]	MinceR	schestowitz_TR: no
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[15:28]	TR News	Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt is now part of the mission of the Linux Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166414#comment-34144
[15:28]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Fluff | Tux Machines
[15:29]	TR News	Windows vs Linux: Whats the best operating system? Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166503
[15:29]	TR Bot	 Windows vs Linux: What's the best operating system? | Tux Machines
[15:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:33]	TR News	Mindless, facts-free greenwashing by LF https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/feature/How-to-approach-sustainability-in-IT-operations
[15:33]	TR Bot	 How to approach sustainability in IT operations
[15:37]	TR News	More greenwashing from LF https://www.techtarget.com/searchsoftwarequality/news/252521642/Green-software-summit-outlines-developer-best-practices see http://techrights.org/2021/11/09/linux-foundation-greenwash/
[15:37]	TR Bot	 Green software summit outlines developer best practices
[15:37]	TR Bot	 Linux Foundation Has Become Even Worse Than Climate Science Deniers | Techrights
[15:38]	alf	lol, "climate science"
[15:39]	alf	truth is, global heating surpassed any supposed margin by several degrees
[15:40]	TR News	Marketing spam disguised as article https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Inspect-a-Gadget/NordVPN-Meshnet-device-diversity-encrypted-against-adversity
[15:40]	TR Bot	 NordVPN Meshnet: device diversity encrypted against adversity
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[15:42]	TR News	"A host of software tools, code samples, an app store, and pre-configured Linux images make getting started surprisingly simple." https://www.forbes.com/sites/marcochiappetta/2022/06/22/amd-xilinx-makes-machine-vision-ai-development-quick-easy-and-affordable/
[15:42]	TR Bot	 AMD Xilinx Makes Machine Vision AI Development Quick, Easy And Affordable
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[15:44]	alf	typical "climate science", it's colder outside than during nightime
[15:45]	TR News	Microsoft blocks Windows downloads in Russia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166277#comment-34145
[15:45]	TR Bot	 Proprietary, Openwashing, and Bad Security | Tux Machines
[15:49]	MinceR	(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22062310
[15:49]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://0x0.st/oSXN.jpg created on 2022-06-23 03:36:59.414808
[15:51]	matey	sciece is a conspiracy to make people less superstious and idiotic
[15:51]	TR News	SpellBinding: EKMNPTU Wordo: HEATS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-26.gmi
[15:51]	alf	the oil industry knew, they couldn't hide the truth, hence the sponsorship of "climate science"
[15:51]	matey	/me still cant type for shit
[15:52]	matey	the oil industry knew <- it was their own scientists that told them
[15:52]	alf	they are lying
[15:53]	TR News	"Having said that, it's not only China and Russia that gets this benefit. Japan is also an empire in the sense that it had and still does rule over areas once owned (in some sense of the word) by other tribes that have been there since before records began." gemini://isoraqathedh.pollux.casa/history-line.gmi
[15:53]	matey	being a scientist for the oil industry is a bit like being a journalist in china
[15:53]	alf	all of them, in particular "climate scientists", who are mouth pieces of this industry
[15:53]	alf	well paid, to stfu
[15:53]	alf	temperature anomalies, reached almost 10degC already
[15:53]	schestowitz_TR	matey: in china they're called inmates
[15:54]	matey	inmates <- 
[15:54]	matey	<matey>
[15:54]	matey	i dont like this term
[15:54]	alf	only godd news today, russia relocates nukes close to nato borders, belarus
[15:55]	matey	today its an anomaly, tomorrow its the new normal
[15:55]	matey	there is one way we could buy some time though
[15:56]	matey	for example, we could put a dent in the population problem by making all the politicians live on another planet
[15:56]	matey	even the moon would do
[15:56]	schestowitz_TR	if putin nukes kiev tonight, nato and eu will  do nothing
[15:56]	schestowitz_TR	they are not obliged to, either
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	sad but true
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	they will issue "twetes"
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	strong condemntation in tweets
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	and there will be new colour HASHTAGS
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	and the kids will do FB "polls"
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	and putin will lol at them
[15:57]	matey	"it sank"
[15:57]	matey	 :D
[15:57]	schestowitz_TR	"well, he's dead"
[15:58]	schestowitz_TR	but at last some US corporations got graft
[15:58]	schestowitz_TR	30+ billion  dollars from taxpayeras
[15:58]	schestowitz_TR	for some rocklers shot at russian targets
[15:58]	schestowitz_TR	ukraine is very, very far from USA
[15:58]	matey	if we do like lucy from peanuts
[15:58]	matey	and make everything cost 5 cents
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	CENTCOM
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Central_Command
[15:59]	TR Bot	 United States Central Command - Wikipedia
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	not CENTOS
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	but close
[15:59]	matey	well then it would be 5CENTCOM
[15:59]	matey	like the pentagon
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	CENTOS is or was used a lot by the US Army
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	RHEL is better
[15:59]	schestowitz_TR	it lets the taxpayers pass money to Red Hat workers
[15:59]	matey	because of inflation its now DOLLAROS
● Jun 26
[16:00]	schestowitz_TR	for nothing
[16:00]	schestowitz_TR	graft for ICBM
[16:00]	schestowitz_TR	literal ICBM
[16:00]	matey	rhel really went to rhell
[16:00]	schestowitz_TR	ICBM still does arsenal systems for warheads
[16:00]	matey	missiles that avoid white people and aim at brown ones
[16:00]	matey	you can just fire them into space and they find their own way
[16:01]	schestowitz_TR	putin could drop a "Small" nuke just to make a statement
[16:01]	schestowitz_TR	we didn't think he'd invade ukraine
[16:01]	schestowitz_TR	but he did
[16:01]	matey	al jolson may be an acceptable loss
[16:01]	schestowitz_TR	even the troops on the border did not expect this
[16:01]	matey	and sarah silverman!
[16:02]	matey	/me isnt that offended by blackface, but sarah silvermans an idiot anyway
[16:02]	schestowitz_TR	sarah GOLDman
[16:02]	schestowitz_TR	goledwoman
[16:02]	matey	no, she only gave 1m to lie-nux foundation
[16:03]	matey	so silverman
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	golno platinum?
[16:03]	matey	but she still gets a dozen tweets a year
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	no voting power for board
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	only half a seat for you
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	neaxt to Lady GitHub 
[16:03]	matey	github invented software
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	Zemlin selling board seats like clinton sell a chair at their dinners
[16:03]	matey	it was amazing
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	to "raise money"
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	noft for TOrval;ds
[16:03]	schestowitz_TR	for Microsoft openwashing campaigns
[16:04]	schestowitz_TR	and greenawashing
[16:04]	schestowitz_TR	joiun OSI today as a member
[16:04]	matey	Zemlin selling board seats <- yeah, just list the fsf started doing this year
[16:04]	schestowitz_TR	help promote simplydefined (github)
[16:04]	matey	but theyre being "classy" about it
[16:04]	matey	/me thinks its incredible that the fsf has adopted all the tactics of what they oppose
[16:04]	schestowitz_TR	matey: if you buy a CHAIR NEXT TO THE CLINTONS YOU CAN FART
[16:04]	matey	/me but not surprising anymore
[16:04]	schestowitz_TR	AND THEY I INHALE IT
[16:05]	schestowitz_TR	oops, caps
[16:05]	matey	truth be told thats why i dont like sarah silverman
[16:05]	schestowitz_TR	FSF hd that event cancled
[16:05]	schestowitz_TR	due to COVID-19 in 2020
[16:05]	schestowitz_TR	but we'll see in physical events
[16:05]	schestowitz_TR	raising money from sold endorsements
[16:06]	matey	<schestowitz_TR> Zemlin selling board seats <- https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-expands-process-for-associate-members-to-nominate-new-members-of-the-board
[16:06]	TR Bot	 FSF expands process for associate members to nominate new members of the board Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[16:06]	matey	"announced today that associate members of the FSF will be able to nominate and evaluate candidates"
[16:06]	matey	translation: buy candidates
[16:06]	schestowitz_TR	buy them with cookies?
[16:07]	matey	look up the cost of membership
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	it should be based on meir
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	or contribution
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	like code
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	not money
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	but others have said that too
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	I would not be the first
[16:07]	matey	it should cost 5 cents
[16:07]	schestowitz_TR	otherwise you risk becoming "rich men's club"
[16:08]	matey	yeah, gosh, it would SUCK if the fsf stopped being about freedom
[16:08]	matey	and started being entirely about sponsors, marketing and fundraisers
[16:08]	matey	IF
[16:08]	schestowitz_TR	matey: at 5 cents you can overwhelm the system
[16:08]	schestowitz_TR	you need to slow down the 'minting' of new members
[16:08]	schestowitz_TR	and throttle it down
[16:08]	schestowitz_TR	like "crypto" "coins"
[16:09]	matey	but im not, and i cant, and i wont, but-- if https://yewtu.be/watch?v=BTSd4vqnMwo
[16:09]	TR Bot	 Janet Jackson - If - Invidious
[16:10]	matey	you need to slow down the 'minting' of new members <- selling out to microsoft ought to do that
[16:10]	matey	but they thought it would help
[16:11]	matey	one page too many from the open source playbook
[16:11]	matey	/me only reads the open source playbook for the articles
[16:12]	matey	i actually get a bit queasy when i see corporations fucking
[16:12]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166504
[16:12]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[16:12]	matey	/me plays steve ballmer at the clippers game again
[16:13]	SaphirJD	wow... finally i made it to log into here :D
[16:13]	matey	CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS!
[16:13]	matey	CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! CLIPPERS! WOOOOOOO!
[16:13]	matey	finally i made it to log in <- you dont have to login
[16:13]	MinceR	s/./Developers! /g
[16:14]	SaphirJD	matey i know, but still its nice that sasl finally works for me :D
[16:14]	schestowitz_TR	SaphirJD: hello
[16:14]	SaphirJD	Hey there!
[16:14]	matey	 but still its nice that sasl finally works for me <- fair point
[16:16]	SaphirJD	too bad i have forgotten the password of my first registered nick, as i was unable to login to my account i have afterwards not visited here anymore :D
[16:18]	schestowitz_TR	sasl is anathema to irc 
[16:18]	schestowitz_TR	in very large networks with imposters and people sending passworda and stuff, OK..
[16:19]	schestowitz_TR	but for irc networks and for the protocol to be sustainable we need thousands of networks
[16:19]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166505
[16:19]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:20]	SaphirJD	I agree, more irc networks would be great
[16:20]	SaphirJD	brb, i try if i perhaps can remember my origin account
[16:20]	TR News	Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166506
[16:20]	TR Bot	 Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[16:20]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[16:21]	MinceR	SASL doesn't have to be mandatory
[16:21]	MinceR	so i don't see how it's anathema to IRC
[16:21]	MinceR	it's just another way to log into NickServ
[16:22]	alf	anyone knew an efnet onion?
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[16:22]	schestowitz_TR	how many networks have onion addresses?
[16:23]	schestowitz_TR	https://netsplit.de/networks/?query=applicant
[16:23]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:23]	alf	without SASL requirements? wouldn't know.
[16:23]	alf	techrights service is the only acceptable i know.
[16:23]	SaphirJD	back. Too bad i cant remember my old accounts password anymore, well... then i simply use that from now on :/
[16:24]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22062550
[16:24]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/xu4558sqs5791.jpg created on 2022-06-25 17:41:40.283633
[16:25]	TR News	Links 26/06/2022: Windows vs GNU/Linux and Mixtile Edge 2 Kit | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/mixtile-edge-2-kit/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/mixtile-edge-2-kit/
[16:25]	TR Bot	 Links 26/06/2022: Windows vs GNU/Linux and Mixtile Edge 2 Kit | Techrights
[16:27]	schestowitz_TR	504 networks https://netsplit.de/networks/
[16:27]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[16:31]	matey	<schestowitz_TR> how many networks have onion addresses? <- i think the number grows by the day
[16:31]	matey	i dont think theres any threat of them taking over though
[16:31]	matey	its more like babies born in third world countries
[16:35]	matey	/me checks if the cooler has any water left
[16:35]	matey	ooh
[16:36]	matey	its a miracle
[16:36]	XRevan86	matey: The cooler needs to be about 20% cooler.
[16:36]	matey	why 20?
[16:37]	XRevan86	matey: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/20-cooler
[16:37]	TR Bot	 20% Cooler | Know Your Meme
[16:37]	matey	ha
[16:37]	matey	i missed one
[16:37]	matey	/me didnt expect xrevan to start telling jokes now, but hes as entitled to as anyone else here
[16:38]	matey	fwiw, it feels about 20% cooler
[16:38]	XRevan86	I used to do plenty.
[16:38]	matey	i dont blame you for giving it up
[16:38]	matey	in a world this ridiculous, its either too much work or too easy
[16:39]	matey	they tried to make the gnu 20% cooler with sunglasses
[16:41]	schestowitz_TR	XRevan86: 20% cool war
[16:41]	schestowitz_TR	"turn it up TURN IT UPPP!"
[16:42]	matey	they should give him a hat that reflects whats happened to the movement, they can get it from scumbag steve
[16:42]	MinceR	crank it uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
[16:44]	matey	wow, ning?
[16:44]	matey	what year is it?
[16:44]		*XRevan86 doesn't get it.
[16:45]	matey	/me just found a search result from NING
[16:45]	matey	i think ning got sucked into the whirlpool that myspace made when it went down
[16:46]	matey	ning climbed into cyberspace right after the dotcom bubble, as if to say "its cool now, right guys?"
[16:46]	matey	/me waves 
[16:49]	matey	then they did similar to imagebucket i think
[16:49]	matey	oh you have a free site, thats nice, well its not free anymore
[16:50]	matey	then strangely, no one ever posted a link to ning ever again
[16:50]	matey	it just wasnt that much of a premium
[16:51]	matey	they basically said "hey, people are so much more into this than twitter and facebook. OH HEY, is that my foot? BANG!!!"
[16:51]	matey	and then just to kill them a little more, twitter and facebook remained free to join
[16:51]	matey	oops
[16:53]	matey	on top of this, ning went premium around the same time things like diaspora were coming out
[16:53]	matey	o after they shot themselves in the foot, they must have gone for a killshot
[16:54]	schestowitz_TR	FB and linkedin are also bubbles
[16:54]	schestowitz_TR	linked tried to reinvent iutself as blogging platform
[16:54]	matey	diaspora of course, was crap
[16:54]	schestowitz_TR	and ms spaces collapsed
[16:54]	matey	but it also lasted longer than ning in terms of relevance
[16:54]	schestowitz_TR	*msn
[16:54]	matey	hehehehe msn
[16:54]	schestowitz_TR	ning or xing?
[16:54]	matey	msn was inspired by the betamax player
[16:55]	matey	ning or xing <- ning is so insignificant you think im talking about something else!
[16:55]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.ning.com/ ?
[16:55]	TR Bot	your own social network with the best community website builder - NING
[16:55]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.ning.com/ ?
[16:55]	matey	it cant be ning, ive never even heard of it
[16:55]	matey	must be "xing" then
[16:55]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.ning.com/
[16:55]	matey	ning.com
[16:55]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.xing.com/
[16:55]	TR Bot	Ideen fr eine neue Arbeitswelt
[16:55]	schestowitz_TR	the german rival
[16:55]	matey	rutube.ru
[16:55]	schestowitz_TR	the xing lists
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	stored on icbm punchcards
[16:56]	matey	i was disappointed to find that ru paul didnt have their own video host!
[16:56]	matey	its some russian youtube thing
[16:56]	matey	/me thinks ru paul tube would be cooler
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	which paul?
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	rand 
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	or ron?
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	gulag censored him
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	around the wave of latest culls
[16:56]	matey	/me pictures rand paul in makeup
[16:56]	schestowitz_TR	probably using covid as a pretext
[16:56]	matey	ron i guess!
[16:56]	MinceR	russian paul
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/11/business/youtube-rand-paul-covid-masks.html
[16:57]	TR Bot	 YouTube Suspends Rand Paul Over Video Disputing Mask Benefits - The New York Times
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/tech/rand-paul-youtube-suspension/index.html
[16:57]	TR Bot	suspends Rand Paul for seven days - CNN
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	7 dass means last warning
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	4th strike
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	oh, wait
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	no, that's twitter
[16:57]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.thewrap.com/rand-paul-youtube-ban/
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Rand Paul Suspended by YouTube for Video Questioning Mask Effectiveness
[16:57]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=igQlbesF0zA
[16:57]	TR Bot	 "Ron Paul" A BLR Soundbite - Invidious
[16:58]	schestowitz_TR	there is also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Paul
[16:58]	TR Bot	 Logan Paul - Wikipedia
[16:58]	schestowitz_TR	back when gulagtube actually tried to reard SOME "creatores"
[16:58]	schestowitz_TR	*reward
[16:58]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/11/rand-paul-youtube-ban-face-masks-503742
[16:58]	TR Bot	Paul cut off from YouTube for a week following criticism of face masks - POLITICO
[16:58]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ru_Paul
[16:58]	TR Bot	 RuPaul - Wikipedia
[16:58]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/11/youtube-suspends-rand-paul-covid-masks
[16:58]	TR Bot	 YouTube suspends Rand Paul for video claiming masks dont prevent infection | YouTube | The Guardian
[16:58]	schestowitz_TR	http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/
[16:59]	TR Bot	 Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 31.96 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.10 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[16:59]	schestowitz_TR	http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/
[16:59]	TR Bot	 Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights
[16:59]	schestowitz_TR	http://techrights.org/2021/02/05/twitter-censorship-bingo/
[16:59]	TR Bot	 Twitter Has Just Suspended the President of FFII for Naming Bill Gates Patent Profiteering and Factual Information About Twitter Censorship (Updated) | Techrights
[16:59]	matey	/me wonders if xrevan86 can translate "SKRELNIG" to something or if its gibberish
[16:59]	schestowitz_TR	welcome to the 21st century www
● Jun 26
[17:00]	schestowitz_TR	controlled by saudis, gates, musk..
[17:00]	matey	its allegedly russian, most likely very informal
[17:00]	matey	possibly made up
[17:01]	matey	/me will be sure to ask herr doktor sixel if its of german origins like everything else
[17:02]	matey	das linux! now with free armbands
[17:02]	schestowitz_TR	frie
[17:02]	schestowitz_TR	freedom started in germany
[17:02]	matey	frei as in freihoit
[17:03]	schestowitz_TR	Gute Fahrt
[17:03]	matey	freedom started in germany <- it was the first thing they invented after irony
[17:03]	schestowitz_TR	that always makes me chuckle 
[17:03]	schestowitz_TR	in ski resorts and stuch
[17:03]	matey	 Gute Fahrt <- i didnt know anyone noticed *blush*
[17:04]	matey	yeah i imaine theres a few phrases that dont survive learning english
[17:05]	matey	but if youre on skis youll be gone before anyone knows you did it
[17:05]	matey	if anything it might give you the lead!
[17:05]	matey	das propellunt und skijetten
[17:06]	matey	no i think thats swedish
[17:06]	matey	"ski" polish!
[17:06]	matey	skis were invented in poland obviously
[17:06]	matey	ironically, ski poles were not
[17:07]	alf	po-land... po is the butt
[17:07]	XRevan86	> matey wonders if xrevan86 can translate "SKRELNIG" to something or if its gibberish
[17:07]	alf	german po
[17:07]	XRevan86	Makes no sense to me.
[17:08]	matey	its from clerks
[17:08]	matey	probably adlibbed
[17:08]	matey	/me doesnt even think it sounds that russian
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[17:09]	alf	matey: wanted to ask while ago already. are you involved with any free software project?
[17:09]	XRevan86	matey: Sounds German to me subjectively.
[17:09]	matey	technically a few of them
[17:10]	matey	though to make it clearer
[17:10]	matey	probably none youve heard of
[17:10]	matey	nothing high profile at all
[17:10]	alf	just curious, any link to some of it?
[17:10]	matey	yeah hold on
[17:11]	matey	https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20170102
[17:12]	TR Bot	Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.
[17:12]	matey	read the last article from robert storey
[17:12]	matey	it was submitted to the editor by storey, i wrote it
[17:12]	matey	note thats 5 years ago
[17:15]	alf	w3m browser is confusing me... to navigate to what the project was
[17:15]	alf	i see tiny core linux is listed as an article
[17:16]	matey	w3m browser is confusing me... <- are you the one that uses windows and freebsd?
[17:16]	matey	yes i know how weird that sounds
[17:16]	matey	i think he used w3m as well
[17:16]	alf	what is the project's name, to search for?
[17:17]	matey	try this article instead https://techrights.org/2019/08/10/fig-project/
[17:17]	TR Bot	 Guest Post: Why I Wrote Fig (the Computer Language That Helps Techrights Operations) | Techrights
[17:17]	matey	that will work in w3m
[17:23]	alf	thanks
[17:23]	matey	sure, its a weird question though
[17:24]	matey	when someone i dont know asks " are you involved with any free software project?" im just as curious what made them curious
[17:24]	matey	you could have asked mincer, hes a software engineer
[17:25]	matey	or fuzzy, hes a nazi distro developer
[17:25]	matey	SORRY, i mean "german nationalist"
[17:25]	matey	/me wouldnt want to offend
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[17:27]	alf	Nazophobia
[17:27]	matey	yes, its a common trait among human beings
[17:27]	matey	authoriphobia
[17:27]	matey	people who fear or hate authoritarians
[17:27]	matey	(or authors)
[17:28]	matey	of course if you ask him, its not authoritarianism if it protects the HOMELAND :)
[17:29]	matey	which is funny to me, thats basically what donald rumsfeld said too
[17:29]	alf	respecting national borders is not authoritarian, it is international law
[17:29]	matey	oh well
[17:29]	matey	if theres one thing hitler and donald rumsfeld are INFAMOUS for
[17:29]	matey	its respecting borders
[17:30]	matey	especially those of poland and iraq
[17:30]	matey	and france, and... i dont think we need to list them all
[17:30]	alf	quid-pro-quo
[17:30]	matey	russia was BLOWN AWAY by how much their 
[17:31]	matey	borders were respected
[17:31]	matey	quid-pro-quo <- as hannibal lechter was known for saying
[17:31]	matey	and probably caesar as well
[17:31]	matey	another well known respecter of borders
[17:32]	matey	israel respects borders far more than it respects international law
[17:32]	matey	sometimes to the exclusion of everything else
[17:32]	matey	they know where the border is supposed to be-- and they have the UTMOST respect for it
[17:33]	matey	even when it keeps moving farther away from their capital, they chase after it with the greatest respect
[17:33]	matey	they dont even let houses get in their way
[17:33]	matey	theyre very determined to show how respectful they are
[17:35]	matey	respecting national borders is not authoritarian <- i thinks its naive to suggest that theres no such thing as an authoritarian approach to borders
[17:35]	matey	there are authoritarian approaches to most issues really
[17:36]	matey	the issue itself does nothing to negate the nature of the approach to the issue
[17:36]	matey	(of which lieplanet is a prime example)
[17:36]	matey	(also comically authoritarian)
[17:36]	matey	(they literally have an oath!)
[17:37]	matey	the issue itself does nothing to negate the nature of the approach to the issue <- its incredible that anyone with half a clue can get away from this fact
[17:37]	matey	like it isnt obvious enough 
[17:37]	matey	"its not authoritarianism! its PROTECTING BORDERS!"
[17:38]	MinceR	borders > people
[17:38]	matey	they have 5 year olds that spot the fallacy there
[17:38]	matey	if anything, people are the biggest problem with protecting borders
[17:39]	matey	if we could just get rid of them, our borders would probably be safe
[17:39]	matey	guns dont threaten our borders, PEOPLE do!
[17:40]	alf	schengen-agreement, relied on EU-border protection for free internal roaming
[17:40]	matey	theres no point in denying it, people are a huge problem
[17:40]	alf	that's a fact, wether it hurts your feelings or not
[17:40]	matey	hitler wanted to solve the people problem but he was too compromising
[17:40]	matey	in the end he said "i know! lets just figure out which people we dont like, and solve THOSE"
[17:41]	matey	that's a fact, wether it hurts your feelings or not <- if by feelings you mean having two clues to rub together
[17:41]	matey	sociopaths and morons think theyre naturally superior 
[17:41]	matey	which one are you?
[17:41]	matey	im not trying to be picky, maybe youre both
[17:42]	MinceR	hitler was way too picky
[17:42]	matey	probably anal retentive
[17:42]	matey	maybe he was toilet trained at gunpoint
[17:42]	matey	after irony, then freedom, i think germans invented ocd
[17:43]	matey	they would have done so a lot sooner but they wanted to get it "just right"
[17:44]	alf	more than a dozen million of germans were deported from their homelands
[17:44]	matey	are you german?
[17:45]	matey	do you know lennart?
[17:45]	matey	how many sausages are in your icebox?
[17:46]	matey	you can tell me
[17:46]	matey	my family fled germany (their HOMELAND) because it was being run by fucking idiots
[17:47]	matey	who whinge like insane bitches about how people dare to cross the borders
[17:47]	matey	UNDER THEIR OWN FUCKING LAWS!
[17:47]	matey	dont they teach basic literacy and simple first-year logic in german schools anymore?
[17:48]	matey	i dont know, based on what i see from the internet they clearly stopped at some point
[17:48]	matey	maybe because they were afraid immigrants would use logic against them
[17:48]	alf	logic
[17:48]	matey	yes, what you call "Feelings"
[17:48]	TR News	Next stage is: meat eaters excluded from "ethical source" https://blogs.fsfe.org/franz.gratzer/2022/06/26/fsfe-information-stand-at-veganmania-mq-2022/
[17:48]	TR Bot	 FSFE Information stand at Veganmania MQ 2022 FSFE supporters Vienna
[17:48]	matey	but thats telling
[17:49]	matey	like your own frothing paranoia isnt what you have the audacity to call "logic"
[17:49]	schestowitz_TR	got butter?
[17:49]	matey	i mean
[17:49]	matey	youre projecting
[17:49]	schestowitz_TR	sorry, no open source for you !! -soup nazi
[17:49]	schestowitz_TR	FSFE searching for a purpose
[17:49]	MinceR	isn't that the open source nazi?
[17:49]	matey	  FSFE searching for a purpose <- i can think of lots of useful things for them to do
[17:50]	matey	landmine detection, for example
[17:50]	schestowitz_TR	"The front of our stall was covered with a big FSFE banner while the sides are used for posters explaining the four freedoms and GnuPG email encryption."
[17:50]	matey	The front of our stall <- gents?
[17:50]	matey	explaining the four freedoms <- oh, they didnt cancel those?
[17:50]	schestowitz_TR	they appropirate them
[17:50]	matey	thats true
[17:50]	MinceR	they just pretend to promote those while promoting software that infringes on them
[17:51]	schestowitz_TR	and then ask FSF supporters in Europe to shell over the money to kirschner
[17:51]	matey	they just pretend to promote those while promoting software that infringes on them <- just another idea they stole from the fsf
[17:51]	schestowitz_TR	instead of those "extremists" in boston
[17:51]	matey	 and then ask FSF supporters in Europe to shell over the money to kirschner <- the free software apartheid foundation
[17:51]	matey	help us support free software apartheid! join today!
[17:52]	TR News	liburing outsourced to Microsoft Proprietary Software... BAZZZT! Wrong approach. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=liburing-2.2
[17:52]	TR Bot	2.2 Released For Easier IO_uring Usage On Linux - Phoronix
[17:53]	matey	instead of those "extremists" in boston <- the two kids with the killer kitchenware?
[17:54]	matey	wearing scumbag steve hats? (im sorry steve, i know youre innocent)
[17:54]	schestowitz_TR	fsfe is losing it
[17:54]	schestowitz_TR	because
[17:54]	schestowitz_TR	1) bad reputation
[17:54]	schestowitz_TR	2) bad reaction
[17:54]	matey	3) full of sheisse
[17:54]	schestowitz_TR	like attacking their exposers
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	now trying to deplatform them from twitter
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	and from debian
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	etc.
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	like hitler would do
[17:55]	matey	frei sheisse foundation epo
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	kill the ones you don't agree with
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	problem solves
[17:55]	schestowitz_TR	*solved
[17:55]	matey	sometimes it works
[17:55]	MinceR	gratis scheisse
[17:55]	matey	but when youre doing it wholesale in your own fucking country, people will talk!
[17:56]	schestowitz_TR	fsfe attacks have harmed debian
[17:56]	schestowitz_TR	they spilled over to another project
[17:56]	matey	gnome aint helping either
[17:56]	MinceR	have they contributed to debian betraying its userbase?
[17:56]	matey	 <MinceR> have they contributed to debian betraying its userbase? <- redundant
[17:56]	matey	debians got that one covered
[17:56]	matey	i saw a place the other day with debians logo
[17:56]	matey	i mean
[17:56]	matey	it LOOKS like debians logo
[17:57]	matey	its the same colour
[17:57]	MinceR	yeah, and after it, debian is just irrelevant
[17:57]	matey	its the same shape
[17:57]	MinceR	"oh look, i can get the same thing as fedora, except somehow even jankier?"
[17:57]	matey	its your computer 
[17:57]	matey	its 5 months old, you need better one
[17:58]	MinceR	with windows preinstalled
[17:58]	MinceR	and now you're years ahead of systemd/Linux
[17:58]	matey	"my god... its full of shit"
[17:58]	matey	"stars, stars"
[17:58]	matey	"oh yeah"
[17:59]	schestowitz_TR	systemd-shitd
[17:59]	matey	sheissed
[17:59]	alf	FSF/GNU, haven't got a free C compiler to offer anymore
[17:59]	alf	so, why bother?
[17:59]	matey	they host the mailing list for tinycc
● Jun 26
[18:00]	matey	 <alf> FSF/GNU, haven't got a free C compiler to offer anymore <- oh its you
[18:00]	matey	how often are you going to change your handle now
[18:00]	matey	goosestep a new step today?
[18:00]	schestowitz_TR	activelow aka fuzzy
[18:00]	alf	huh?
[18:01]	matey	you dont think were that stupid, do you?
[18:01]	matey	well, you probably do
[18:01]		*alf reads scrollback
[18:01]	matey	<alf> FSF/GNU, haven't got a free C compiler to offer anymore <- oh its you
[18:02]	MinceR	how are you gentlemen !!
[18:02]	MinceR	all your base are belong to us.
[18:02]	matey	most of the western europe ones at least
[18:02]	matey	we can try eastern eur-- oh, shit!
[18:02]	matey	didnt work for napoleon either
[18:03]	matey	doesnt look like its even going to work for putlin, and he was fucking born there
[18:03]	matey	step 1. emulate napoleon
[18:03]	matey	step 2. invade shit
[18:03]	matey	step 3. waterloo
[18:04]	matey	he was good at annexing, less good at holding onto it
[18:04]	matey	hitler, same
[18:05]	matey	britain was better at holding onto things, but like caesar
[18:05]	matey	eventually whole nations escaped
[18:05]	matey	some of them were really big nations
[18:06]	matey	fortunately the royal family still has some of the money
[18:06]	matey	i mean, i presume thats how it works
[18:06]	matey	one is only HALF a billionaire, isnt one?
[18:06]	matey	so not MUCH of that money
[18:07]	matey	still, one didnt get it selling crocheted oven mitts on etsy
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[18:08]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=M8JO51TLGgg
[18:08]	TR Bot	 One - Invidious
[18:11]	matey	its funny because
[18:11]	matey	you need a more powerful military to hold onto shit than to take it over in the first place
[18:11]	matey	so a lot of people are like "ill have that one, and that one-- and then when theyre mine ill use them to-- oh, god, what the hell is going on?"
[18:12]	matey	youd think if they read enough history theyd have noticed this by now
[18:12]	matey	but then history is told by the victors, eh?
[18:12]	matey	and generally while things are still going well
[18:20]	schestowitz_TR	victors... and vladminirs
[18:21]	schestowitz_TR	on V-Day
[18:21]	TR News	"My trip to the city has been a failure. I lost the war against calories. It has been more than a week and I have not stuck to my diet plan. I feel bloated. Hence I came here, to talk about it. I am going to start tomorrow, of course." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1037
[18:23]	TR News	"Should the Transjovian Council ever expand to more than just one person, then we're going to work out some governance for this space I'm thinking about a non-profit association according to Swiss law." gemini://transjovian.org/page/Introduction
[18:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-25.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-26.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:33]	TR News	Linux Mint: The Beginner-Friendly Linux Operating System for Everyone https://www.debugpoint.com/linux-mint/ Source: DebugPoint | GNU | Linux
[18:33]	TR Bot	reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/linux-mint/ )
[18:38]	TR News	"Another foreigner is unlikely to be offered the red carpet on arrival to the land of the free: investigative journalist Julian Assanges extradition to the U.S. was approved by U.K. authorities. The president reiterated his objection to Assanges imprisonment." https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/statue-of-liberty-news-conferences/
[18:38]	TR Bot	 Taking away the Statue of Liberty: the week's morning news conferences
[18:40]	TR News	"The people are calling for the release of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Blow-for-British-PM-as-Conservatives-Lose-Two-Parliament-Seats-20220624-0006.html
[18:40]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[18:41]	TR News	"If President Biden really cared about press freedom, he would have canceled the extradition request months ago." https://www.thenation.com/article/world/britain-exradition-julian-assange/
[18:41]	TR Bot	 Americas Lapdog Britain Moves to Extradite Julian Assange | The Nation
[18:41]	TR News	"We are demanding that Julian Assange be freed, he returned to his family, and finally permitted to live a normal life," she stressed. https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Coalition-of-Journalists-Demands-Release-of-Julian-Assange-20220623-0007.html
[18:41]	TR Bot	 Coalition of Journalists Demands Release of Julian Assange | News | teleSUR English
[18:42]	TR News	Andrew P. Napolitano: Julian Assange and Personal Freedom https://original.antiwar.com/andrew-p-napolitano/2022/06/22/julian-assange-and-personal-freedom/
[18:42]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange and Personal Freedom - Antiwar.com Original
[18:43]	TR News	"China and the U.S. should focus on developing their relations based on mutual respect and peaceful coexistence. As the world's leading economies, the two nations need to avoid conflict by boosting efforts to build a broader dialogue." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/US-Seeks-To-Contain-China-on-Xinjiang-Issue-20220622-0022.html
[18:44]	TR Bot	 US Seeks To Contain China on Xinjiang Issue | News | teleSUR English
[18:44]	TR News	Outcry for Assange oddly absent for those held by China https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/outcry-for-assange-oddly-absent-for-those-held-by-china/
[18:44]	TR Bot	 Outcry for Assange oddly absent for those held by China | The Strategist
[18:45]	TR News	"the threat to free speech and the reported C.I.A. plot to kidnap or kill Assange before his arrest." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/22/assange-put-on-suicide-watch-after-patel-decision-father-says/
[18:45]	TR Bot	Put on Suicide Watch After Patel Decision, Father Says scheerpost.com
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[18:49]	TR News	Linux Mint: The Beginner-Friendly Linux Operating System for Everyone Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166508
[18:49]	TR Bot	 Linux Mint: The Beginner-Friendly Linux Operating System for Everyone | Tux Machines
[18:50]	TR News	((US WANTS A STRONG PRECEDENT: you expose OUR war crimes, we'll KILL you) AMLO to bring up case of Wikileaks founder Assange during Biden meeting https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/amlo-to-bring-up-case-of-wikileaks-founder-assange-during-meeting-with-biden/ Source: mexiconewsdaily
[18:50]	TR Bot	 AMLO to bring up case of Wikileaks founder Assange during Biden meeting
[18:51]	TR News	Its Time for Australia to Demand Julian Assanges Release https://jacobin.com/2022/06/julian-assange-australia-labor-albanese-diplomacy/ Source: jacobin
[18:51]	TR Bot	 Its Time for Australia to Demand Julian Assanges Release
[18:52]	TR News	"Assange's wife vowed to fight using every possible legal avenue." https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-21/mexico-president-will-ask-biden-to-look-into-wikileaks-assange-case
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[18:54]	TR News	Don't be a journalist in Australia. The government will execute you for ANOTHER nation... if you 'embarrass' it https://www.theage.com.au/national/government-right-to-avoid-megaphone-diplomacy-on-assange-joe-hockey-says-20220621-p5avdk.html
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[18:55]	TR News	China: Assange Case Reflects US & UK Hypocrisy on Press Freedom https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/China-Assange-Case-Reflects-US--UK-Hypocrisy-on-Press-Freedom-20220620-0023.html Source: telesurenglish
[18:55]	TR Bot	 China: Assange Case Reflects US & UK Hypocrisy on Press Freedom | News | teleSUR English
[18:56]	TR News	West/NATO: we don't need to properly respond to allegations and evidence of war crimes. We just need to torture and then kill the person proving it and scare anyone else who thinks about doing the same. IOW, same as Russia and China.
[18:58]	TR News	"The first thing that comes to mind for me is using executive pardon capabilities for Edward Snowden and Julian Assange, but the list certainly doesn't stop there." https://reason.com/podcast/2022/06/20/biden-falls-off-the-metaphorical-bike/ even if Biden 'pardoned' Snowden, I doubt Putin would set Snowden free (to fly)
[18:58]	TR Bot	 Biden Falls Off the Metaphorical Bike
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[18:59]	TR News	"In an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporations (ABC) Radio National on Monday, Stella Assange stated that journalist Julian Assange's health is rapidly deteriorating while he remains a prisoner in London's Belmarsh prison." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Julian-Assanges-Health-Is-Deteriorating-His-Wife-Warns-20220620-0009.html "suffered a minor stroke in October 2021."
[18:59]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange's Health Is Deteriorating, His Wife Warns | News | teleSUR English
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[19:00]	TR News	Public had a right to know what Assange exposed https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/public-had-a-right-to-know-what-assange-exposed-20220620-p5auzh.html
[19:00]	TR Bot	 Public had a right to know what Assange exposed
[19:01]	TR News	"The global ruling class is cementing into place a world where they govern without accountability, we are reduced to serfdom, the climate crisis accelerates, and mass death is normalized. [...] Julian Assange, the most important publisher of our generation" https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/20/hedges-the-triumph-of-death
[19:01]	TR Bot	The Triumph of Death scheerpost.com
[19:02]	TR News	Human culling in the UK: 200,000 dead and our regime lifted all restrictions, now hides the extent of the spread of COVID-19.
[19:02]	TR News	Former foreign minister says Australia should demand Assange release https://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-news-live-former-foreign-minister-says-australia-should-demand-assange-release-omicron-wave-was-twice-the-size-of-recorded-cases-20220620-p5auyf.html
[19:02]	TR Bot	 Australia news LIVE: Former foreign minister says Australia should demand Assange release; Omicron wave was twice the size of recorded cases
[19:04]	TR News	"Australia's prime minister said Monday (June 20) he will engage "diplomatically" over the US prosecution of Julian Assange, but he is standing by earlier remarks questioning the purpose of further legal action." IANAL, but they can initiate legal action against UK and/or US to halt the extradition of THEIR citizen. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/australian-pm-hopes-for-diplomatic-progress-in-assange-legal-saga
[19:04]	TR Bot	 Australian PM hopes for diplomatic progress in Assange legal saga | The Straits Times
[19:04]	TR News	Like an Empire's Bunny https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-20/australian-leader-refuses-to-publicly-intervene-on-assange
[19:05]	TR News	"Crimes have been committed, and examples DO need to made of the criminals who committed them." https://original.antiwar.com/thomas-knapp/2022/06/19/free-assange-yes-but-thats-not-nearly-enough/
[19:06]	TR News	"In an op-ed for the Sydney Morning Herald, Mr Carr argued that Assange's prosecution stood in sharp contrast to the US pardoning former military intelligence officer Chelsea Manning, who had leaked the secret files to WikiLeaks." https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/australianz/ex-australian-foreign-minister-bob-carr-urges-assanges-freedom
[19:06]	matey	victors... and vladminirs <- victorski victorova
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[19:07]	TR News	"He is effectively a political prisoner, an example to other journalists who would dare expose US war crimes. His lawyer, Jennifer Robinson, has said the Australian government needs to ask the Biden administration to drop the spying charges." https://www.theage.com.au/national/nsw/pm-s-intervention-crucial-to-save-assange-from-life-in-jail-20220619-p5aut2.html
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[19:07]	matey	the russian spy who disguised herself as a male spy disguised as a female ally
[19:08]	matey	known to most people as jill stein
[19:08]	TR News	"Though hes not a Russian national, has never lived in the country, nor was he there when he committed his supposed crime,..." https://jacobin.com/2022/06/julian-assange-trial-updates/
[19:08]	TR Bot	 We Would Never Tolerate Julian Assanges Persecution If Any Other Country Carried It Out
[19:09]	TR News	Assange: In the interests of justice bring him home https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/assange-in-the-interests-of-justice-bring-him-home-20220619-p5auvp.html
[19:09]	TR Bot	 Assange: In the interests of justice bring him home
[19:10]	TR News	We are not at the end of the road, we are going to fight this, Stella Assange, the publishers wife, told the press conference. We are going to spend every waking hour fighting for Julian until he is free, until justice is served. https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/18/stella-assange-we-are-going-to-f
[19:10]	TR Bot	Assange: We Are Going to Fight This scheerpost.com
[19:10]	schestowitz_TR	matey: funny you mention here
[19:10]	schestowitz_TR	only hours ago I recalled her kremlin triup
[19:10]	matey	i dont know if shes a russian agent
[19:10]	schestowitz_TR	because i saw that Max Seiser had taken some photos outside the kremlin
[19:11]	schestowitz_TR	those things never age well
[19:11]	matey	personally i think shes cute
[19:11]	schestowitz_TR	she is nice
[19:11]	schestowitz_TR	I interacted with her in 2016
[19:12]	matey	stallmans a green supporter, he may have spoken with her before his trip to microsoft
[19:12]	matey	something they have in common-- wrong place, wrong time
[19:12]	TR News	Our right to the truth https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/our-right-to-the-truth-20220618-p5auq5.html
[19:12]	TR Bot	 Our right to the truth
[19:12]	schestowitz_TR	RMS was trippin'
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	I asked him to explain
[19:13]	matey	but the media is very opportunistic with things like that
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	he wrote an essay
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	and then the media started attacking him
[19:13]	matey	 I asked him to explain <-  he wrote an essay <- thats certainly true to form
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	about totally unrelated things
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	same as the theme about Gates and Epstein in MIT
[19:13]	matey	e an essay <- thats certainly true to form
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	MIT:
[19:13]	matey	#techrights : 06/26/22 18:13 <schestowitz_TR>  <- true to form for them too
[19:13]	schestowitz_TR	crime: sending an email that might insult someone
[19:14]	schestowitz_TR	night a crime: bribing MIT while working behind the scene for child sex trsafficker
[19:14]	matey	mit are a bunch of bastards
[19:14]	schestowitz_TR	http://techrights.org/2020/01/10/gates-sponsored-mit/
[19:14]	TR Bot	 Massachusetts Institute of Tall Tales (MIT) Covers Up Bill Gates Bribery of MIT Through a High-Profile Pedophile, Citing No Evidence Other Than Representatives of Gates Himself | Techrights
[19:14]	matey	first they killed aaron, then they tried to off stallman
[19:14]	schestowitz_TR	like the swartz report
[19:14]	schestowitz_TR	some "investigation"
[19:15]	schestowitz_TR	overup job with glossy paper
[19:15]	matey	awful
[19:15]	schestowitz_TR	wasting institution's resources
[19:15]	schestowitz_TR	to add insult to injury
[19:15]	matey	well i hope they hope they end up sponsored by coca cola
[19:15]	matey	or spam
[19:16]	TR News	"The spokesman for Assange's legal team in Ecuador, lawyer Carlos Poveda, has cast doubt this Friday that the U.S. justice system will abide by due process in the case of Julian Assange if he is tried in this country." https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Assanges-Defense-No-Guarantees-of-Fair-Trial-in-the-US-20220618-0004.html
[19:16]	TR Bot	 Assanges Defense: No Guarantees of Fair Trial in the US | News | teleSUR English
[19:16]	matey	"the hormel nanotechnology wing"
[19:16]	matey	not an unlikely sponsor, they already use microphages
[19:17]	TR News	The UK's Decision to Extradite Assange Shows Why The US/UK's Freedom Lectures Are a Farce https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-uks-decision-to-extradite-assange
[19:17]	TR Bot	 The UK's Decision to Extradite Assange Shows Why The US/UK's Freedom Lectures Are a Farce
[19:17]	MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svMuGhYqNnw
[19:17]	TR Bot	https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=svMuGhYqNnw
[19:17]	matey	they could just go organic, instead theyd rather have factory farming and early 20th century russian science experiments
[19:17]	TR Bot	inv.riverside.rocks | MC Hawking - The Hawkman Cometh - Invidious
[19:17]	matey	dont get me wrong, microphage research will probably save lives someday
[19:18]	TR News	"The president of the European Federations of Journalists, Maja Sever, described the British decision as "shameful" and said it would cheer "the autocrats and the enemies of press freedom."" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Journalists-Federations-Condemn-Assanges-Extradition-20220617-0015.html
[19:18]	TR Bot	 Journalist's Federations Condemn Assange's Extradition | News | teleSUR English
[19:18]	matey	but its a shame that hormel needs to be so experimental with meat theyre already fucking around with
[19:18]	matey	(it didnt pan out for the russians though)
[19:19]	matey	(dont know if that was under the same scientist that believed genes store your personality)
[19:19]	matey	(like literally)
[19:19]	matey	lamark?
[19:19]	TR News	"other facts have emerged that could form part of the cross appeal. The C.I.A. plot against Assange was further corroborated by U.S. officials in a Yahoo! News report. A key U.S. witness on computer charges against Assange recanted his testimony. And Assanges health has further deteriorated when he suffered a mini-stroke last October." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/17/home-secretary-signs-assange-extradition-order/
[19:19]	TR Bot	Secretary Signs Assange Extradition Order scheerpost.com
[19:19]	matey	he thought mendel was a quack!
[19:20]	matey	sort of like herr doktor thinks einstein was an ignorant child
[19:21]	matey	the fuhrer, now there was a painter
[19:21]	TR News	Some days left: "WikiLeaks said it would challenge the order, and Assange's lawyers have 14 days to lodge an appeal." https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-06-17/uk-govt-approves-extradition-of-assange-appeal-possible
[19:21]	matey	he could do an entire apartment in one hour-- TWO COATS
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[19:22]	TR News	"WikiLeaks revealed US military documents that some authorities believe jeopardized national security, but Assanges partner Stella Moris thinks the US government continues to target Assange for other reasons." https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/06/uk-home-secretary-approves-assange-extradition-to-us/
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[19:23]	TR News	CNET relaying the lies: "If convicted, Assange could receive up to a 175-year jail sentence, although the US government has said he would likely face a sentence of between four and six years." https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/julian-assange-us-extradition-given-green-light-by-uk-home-secretary/
[19:23]	TR Bot	Assange US Extradition Given Green Light by UK Home Secretary - CNET
[19:23]	MinceR	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvOEFr03ea8
[19:23]	TR Bot	https://youtube.076.ne.jp/watch?v=qvOEFr03ea8
[19:23]	TR Bot	youtube.076.ne.jp | MC Hawking - All My Shootings Be Drivebys - Invidious
[19:24]	TR News	"This is a dark day for Press freedom and for British democracy. Anyone in this country who cares about freedom of expression should be deeply ashamed." https://reason.com/2022/06/17/u-k-approves-extradition-of-julian-assange-to-the-u-s/
[19:24]	TR Bot	 U.K. Approves Julian Assanges Extradition to the U.S.
[19:25]	TR News	"Assange is currently in the high-security Belmarsh Prison in London, where he has been held since being dragged out of the Ecuadorian embassy in London three years ago." https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/17/uk/uk-julian-assange-extradition-priti-patel-intl-gbr/index.html
[19:25]	TR Bot	 Julian Assange's extradition to US approved by UK government - CNN
[19:26]	TR News	"Around the world people and organizations such as Amnesty International voice distrust over the U.S. court systems ability to handle this case fairly" https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2022/0617/Journalist-or-spy-WikiLeaks-founder-to-face-U.S.-trial
[19:26]	TR Bot	orders extradition of WikiLeaks founder Assange to face U.S. trial - CSMonitor.com
[19:28]	TR News	"The STM32 has an IDE that has a pin configurator. I wondered if perhaps we could code at a higher level than C by using some other kind of generator. I decided to see if Guile could be used as a generator language. I'm really just dabbling at this stage to see if I could get something working." gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-26-guile-mcu.gmi
[19:29]	matey	what happens if youre in a biplane and the top or bottom wings fall off
[19:29]	matey	do you glide to the ground or just become a rock
[19:30]	TR News	Two-tier(ed) legal system? NO! Law for some people. NO law for a few. The latter isn't another legal system but an absence of one. Not enforced anyway. See EPO and US Army.
[19:30]	TR News	US accountability = megaCoC
[19:31]	schestowitz_TR	matey: you jump at the lake
[19:31]	schestowitz_TR	I've often wondered
[19:31]	schestowitz_TR	say you jump from a plane without mask or equipment into the sea
[19:31]	schestowitz_TR	and hit the water perfectly
[19:32]	schestowitz_TR	any chance of survival?
[19:32]	schestowitz_TR	I am guessing you need to lie down on the way down
[19:32]	schestowitz_TR	fo drag, to slow down
[19:32]	schestowitz_TR	and then hit the water toe first
[19:32]		*schestowitz_TR searches a bit
[19:33]	schestowitz_TR	https://www.scienceabc.com/eyeopeners/jump-airplane-sea-water-without-parachute-survival-free-fall.html
[19:33]	TR Bot	 What If You Jump Out Of A Plane Without A Parachute?
[19:35]	schestowitz_TR	"Before actually jumping out, you should try to find a large object that you can ride during your imminent free fall. In other words, be a wreckage rider (a term coined by Jim Hamilton, a historian who compiled an online database of every imaginable human plummet). Your chances of surviving such a deadly plunge might improve slightly when youre somehow padded by semi-protective debris that will absorb some of the enor
[19:35]	schestowitz_TR	mous amount of energy youll experience when you land on the waters surface.
[19:35]	schestowitz_TR	"
[19:36]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2206258
[19:36]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/mm1ld39yrs391.jpg created on 2022-06-25 02:53:31.364041
[19:38]	matey	you still have to wonder about someone who insists on doing that
[19:39]	matey	/me thinks of nicholas cage
[19:39]	matey	i mean if they have no other choice, thats different obviously. but setting it up on purpose?
[19:40]	schestowitz_TR	seems hopeless as a strategy
[19:40]	schestowitz_TR	based on the above, you need a lot of large objects for drag
[19:41]	schestowitz_TR	to break off the impact's pressure
[19:41]	schestowitz_TR	like a bike's helmet 
[19:41]	schestowitz_TR	maybe fake wings
[19:41]	schestowitz_TR	like very large things around your torso
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[19:41]	schestowitz_TR	that would not break from the wind on the way down
[19:42]	schestowitz_TR	maybe it you hit the water at 60 m/hour you can be OK
[19:42]	schestowitz_TR	not 180
[19:42]	schestowitz_TR	the good news is,
[19:42]	schestowitz_TR	you will like suffer less by jumping into a volcano
[19:43]	schestowitz_TR	I wonder how altitude gliders can handle
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[19:44]	matey	if they live, ill give them that it was cool and everything
[19:44]	matey	theyre still certifiable though
[19:44]	schestowitz_TR	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vFiBttsG1DY
[19:44]	TR Bot	 High altitude Hang Gliding - Invidious
[19:45]	schestowitz_TR	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Pd9OFHehFu8
[19:45]	TR Bot	 Hang Gliding World Altitude Record - 36,700 feet June 1984 - Invidious
[19:45]	schestowitz_TR	1984
[19:47]	schestowitz_TR	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=csDRdqMH3Kk
[19:47]	TR Bot	 The flight that almost killed me - Invidious
[19:51]	TR News	Two types of privacy gemini://seirdy.one/posts/2022/06/25/two-types-of-privacy/index.gmi "Threat modelling provides important context to security and privacy advice. Measures necessary to protect against an advanced threat are different from those effective against unsophisticated threats"
[19:53]	TR News	What about Team Trump? This is a two-party problem. Graft and waste. https://reason.com/2022/06/21/6-trillion-covid-spending-team-biden-complaining-lack-pandemic-funds/
[19:53]	TR Bot	 Biden Complains About COVID Funds After Already Spending $6 Trillion
[19:54]	TR News	"Part of the concern about patents in the growing psychedelic industry, is that once a patent is granted, it is costly and laborious to challenge itwith no guarantee of success. At the end of last year, the non-profit Freedom to Operate challenged two patents on a synthetic form of psilocybin, the active ingredient in magic mushrooms." https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/93a5x3/judges-deny-challenge-to-psilocybin-patent
[19:54]	TR Bot	 Judges Deny Challenge to Psilocybin Patent
[19:56]	TR News	Raiding the domestic Taliban (GOP)? https://www.twincities.com/2022/06/23/feds-search-trump-era-officials-home-subpoena-gop-leaders/
[19:56]	TR Bot	 Feds search Trump-era officials home, subpoena GOP leaders Twin Cities
[19:57]	TR News	A linguist weighs in on Ohio State Universitys trademark on the word the https://qz.com/2181567/ohio-state-secures-the-trademark-for-the-word-the/
[19:57]	TR Bot	 Ohio State secures the trademark for the word "THE" Quartz
[19:59]	TR News	Patents that literally kill millions of people for billions in profits https://www.jurist.org/news/2022/06/wto-reaches-agreements-including-covid-19-vaccine-patent-waiver-and-ban-on-subsidies-for-illegal-fishing/
[19:59]	TR Bot	 WTO agreements include COVID-19 vaccine patent waiver and ban on subsidies for illegal fishing - JURIST - News
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[19:59]	TR News	Appalling slant, as if this favours the poor somshow? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/asset-economy-high-interest-rates-inflation/661323/
[19:59]	TR Bot	 Why Stocks, Crypto, and Home Values Are All Plunging at Once - The Atlantic
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[20:01]	TR News	"And part of the obstacle is big pharma got inserted, into so-called free trade agreements, binding obligations on countries to maintain and enforce these monopolies, which are government-created monopoly licenses called patents" https://fair.org/home/a-handful-of-billionaire-companies-have-monopoly-control-over-life-saving-medicines/
[20:01]	TR Bot	 'A Handful of Billionaire Companies Have Monopoly Control Over Life-Saving Medicines' - FAIR
[20:02]	TR News	"Chan Zuckerberg Initiative" creeping into more things, just like the Bill and Lolita gates Foundation https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/06/16/1053758/running-tide-seaweed-kelp-scientist-departures-ecological-concerns-climate-carbon-removal/
[20:02]	TR Bot	 Running Tide is facing scientist departures and growing concerns | MIT Technology Review
[20:03]	TR News	"The Polish DPA fined a car trailer manufacturer approximately 3,492 (16,000 PLN) for failing to report a data breach which involved the loss of an employee's employment certificate." https://gdprhub.eu/index.php?title=UODO_(Poland)_-_DKN.5110.12.2021
[20:03]	TR Bot	 UODO (Poland) - DKN.5110.12.2021 - GDPRhub
[20:04]	TR News	"Court filing reveals CIA director Gina Haspel participated directly in the spy agencys black site illegal torture program while fellow officer Kiriakou was imprisoned for exposing it." https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/14/john-kiriakou-the-triumph-of-bloody-gina-the-cias-torture-queen/
[20:04]	TR Bot	Kiriakou: The Triumph of Bloody Gina, the CIAs Torture Queen scheerpost.com
[20:05]	TR News	DW, which turns a blind eye to CRIMES at the EPO, as WTO mouthpiece ... including "waiving vaccine patents" (which did not happen) https://www.dw.com/en/wto-to-talk-pandemic-fishing-subsidies-at-geneva-summit/a-62106293?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-xml-atom
[20:05]	TR Bot	to talk pandemic, fishing subsidies at Geneva summit | News | DW | 12.06.2022
[20:06]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/2206251
[20:06]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/6z6lmmtnkd691.jpg created on 2022-06-25 00:39:13.396263
[20:06]	TR News	RAND Corporation Research [sic]... and patents https://cissar.com/use-of-predictive-analytic-tools-to-assess-technological-emergences-and-acquisition-targets/
[20:07]	TR Bot	( status 503 @ https://cissar.com/use-of-predictive-analytic-tools-to-assess-technological-emergences-and-acquisition-targets/ )
[20:08]	TR News	Assange case: when you finally make some gains against a deeply corrupt system they will torture you and kill you. Deliberately, too. To scare other people who might "get ideas"...
[20:09]	TR News	Access GNOME Shells Advanced Settings Easily - OMG! Ubuntu! https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/06/gnome-shell-configurator-extension-advanced-settings Source: OMGUbuntu | GNU | Linux
[20:09]	TR Bot	 Access GNOME Shell's Advanced Settings Easily - OMG! Ubuntu!
[20:11]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166509
[20:11]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[20:27]	TR News	1 in 340 Brits Died With COVID-19 on the Death Certificate (and It's Not Over) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/26/covid-19-not-over/
[20:27]	TR Bot	Blog Archive 1 in 340 Brits Died With COVID-19 on the Death Certificate (and Its Not Over)
[20:30]	TR News	"For the past few months I've been realizing just how easy it is to enter the field of amateur journalism. I've never been very interested in the field, never took any courses about it, and I've never even been inside a newspaper office." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1038
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[20:59]	DaemonFC	https://news.yahoo.com/maga-voters-send-50-million-152821829.html
[20:59]	TR Bot	 MAGA Voters Send a $50 Million GOP Plan Off the Rails in Illinois
[20:59]	DaemonFC	Trump showed up at a rally for a Republican downstate Congresswoman who slipped and said that the court decision is a victory for "white life".
[20:59]	DaemonFC	And he also stumped for Gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey.
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[21:00]	DaemonFC	It effectively turned into a Nazi/White Pride rally down there.
[21:00]	DaemonFC	Bailey was even photographed "waving" at the crowd with what was very obviously a Nazi salute.
[21:09]	schestowitz_TR	>> GOP Plan Off the Rails in Illinois
[21:09]	schestowitz_TR	US has been off the rails for 20 years
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[21:17]	TR News	Links 26/06/2022: New Stable Kernels and Freedom of the Press on Trial | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/26/freedom-of-the-press-on-trial/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/26/freedom-of-the-press-on-trial/
[21:17]	TR Bot	 Links 26/06/2022: New Stable Kernels and Freedom of the Press on Trial | Techrights
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[21:30]	matey	 US has been off the rails for 20 years <- lets just call it the first world
[21:30]	matey	unless you can think of a country other than sweden that hasnt been fucking bullshit for the past two decades
[21:30]	matey	and sweden isnt utopia
[21:31]	matey	 the first world <- and thats being nice
[21:32]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/26/illinois-trump-appears-for-a-stump-speech-for-darren-bailey-that-turns-into-a-nazi-white-pride-rally/
[21:32]	TR Bot	 Illinois: Trump appears for a stump speech for Darren Bailey that turns into a Nazi/White Pride rally. BaronHK's Rants
[21:37]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, Ken Griffin of Citadel (an investment company) threw $50 million dollars at Richard Irvin and then Trump ruined it by showing up one afternoon.
[21:38]	DaemonFC	Then Griffin announced he and Citadel are leaving Illinois and going to Florida.
[21:39]	DaemonFC	To be fair, some of Irvin cratering is his own spinelessness. He sent out a text saying he hated Trump back in 2018. Now he's saying he doesn't remember that.
[21:40]	DaemonFC	The smart thing to do would be pivot and try to peel away some of Pritzker's supporters.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	3 hours ago
[21:41]	DaemonFC	Is there any state where the rural portion does not want to cut ties with the major city, and the complaints are always the same. "We send them our taxes and get nothing back."
[21:41]	DaemonFC	I remember it in every state I ever lived in, including Colorado. Here we even talked about splitting away from the front range and joining with Western Kansas, who would split from Eastern Kansas, and we would form a new state.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	The real problem lay in the fact that the new state would be dirt poor and have no resources beyond farming. That is also a commonality with the other states I have lived in where they talked about splitting the state away from the major cities.
[21:41]	DaemonFC	(Someone else's comment)
[21:42]	DaemonFC	Yes, I've pointed out before that if you cut out Chicago, Cook County, and the collar counties, and made a state of Chicago and a state of Illinois, the state of Illinois would be poorer than Mississippi (currently the poorest in America) and the state of Chicago's median household income would more than double vs. the current Illinois median income.
[21:43]	DaemonFC	Then there would be no tax base in Chicago to pay for things downstate, including roads, bridges, schools, utilities, farm subsidies, energy subsidies....
[21:44]	DaemonFC	They'd lose a lot more than they'd gain. It would be better for them to just continue the status quo. Saying they hate Chicago and electing local boards that like to thumb their noses at us.
[21:44]	DaemonFC	If they seceded, we'd no longer be under any obligation to carry them, and they'd be dirt broke.
[21:45]	DaemonFC	It's totally predictable what will happen if Darren Bailey wins the primary because we saw a sneak preview in the 2018 election. Governor Rauner went up against a fire breathing right-wing witch named Jeanne Ives.
[21:46]	DaemonFC	It split the party right in two. Rauner survived his own primary, but only barely, and Jeanne Ives' attack ads badly damaged him with Republicans, who went on to abandon him in the general election.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	She released an extremely racist and anti-LGBT attack ad that was just so bizarre.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, She had YouTube take it down.
[21:48]	DaemonFC	So it's no longer there to be seen.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	It basically went from a woman in a pink hat thanking Bruce Rauner for "making taxpayers cover all of my abortions", then an Occupy Wall Street-style protester thanking him for "protecting illegal alien criminals instead of American citizens", followed by a sleazy ComEd executive thanking him for putting all the people in Illinois on the hook for a corrupt bailout.
[21:50]	DaemonFC	The funny part was that 4 years after he lost the election (starting last month), the clawback provision that nobody thought anything of in 2018 kicked in.
[21:51]	DaemonFC	And it reduced our electric bill 25% last month, because the price of power shot sky high and ComEd's nuclear plants started turning a profit by selling electricity in the region.
[21:51]	DaemonFC	ComEd didn't fight the clawback section of the bailout law because they figured there would be no way to ever make money on those nuclear power plants, and so they could just force taxpayers to hand over the money and they'd never have to give any of it back.
[21:57]	matey	speaking of pissing matches
[21:58]	matey	einstein is dead, but we had hawking
[21:58]	matey	hawking died in 2018, but
[21:58]	matey	where the fuck is the next guy?
[21:58]	matey	or girl, she could be female
[21:58]	matey	wheres the worlds top scientist? we should probably have one somewhere
[21:59]	matey	superman was bullshit, but hawking at least was real
[21:59]	matey	and neither would get far on foot
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[22:00]	matey	i havent heard anything about the worlds top astrophysicist since the last one died
[22:00]	matey	is the universe not important anymore? 
[22:01]	matey	we still have kanye, ffs
[22:01]	matey	we need someone to balance this
[22:02]	matey	we cant just be in a zero-hawking, several-kardashian world here
[22:02]	matey	maybe if we have a brilliant astrophysicist wear luis vitton
[22:02]	matey	whatever it takes, you know
[22:04]	matey	i dunno, maybe we can draft someone from the ramtha school of enlightenment
[22:04]	matey	who doesnt want happy little water crystals
[22:05]	matey	i try to get about half of my physics from stifflers mom in a sgt peppers army coat smoking a pipe anyway
[22:06]	matey	thank god for model trains, because if they didnt have the model trains how would they get the idea for the big trains
[22:13]	matey	do we even have a carl sagan? i mean, theres neil degrasse tyson, i suppose hes sort of sagan-like
[22:15]	matey	and theres the we live a woooowld of woooonders guy, but i think he disappeared after hbo become netflix
[22:15]	matey	maybe while flying a helicopter to the moon
[22:16]	matey	brian cox
[22:16]	matey	not the actor
[22:17]	matey	/me imagines carl sagan doing cockney rhyming slang
[22:36]	DaemonFC	https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2022/06/26/google-youtube-gulagtube-removes-incredibly-racist-and-transphobic-political-ad-from-illinois-state-rep-jeanne-ives/
[22:36]	TR Bot	 Google YouTube (GulagTube) removes incredibly racist and transphobic political ad from Illinois state Rep. Jeanne Ives. BaronHK's Rants
[22:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, ^
[22:36]	DaemonFC	I might work on this again.
[22:36]	DaemonFC	Brb.
[22:37]	DaemonFC	"Case in point, when Illinois state Rep. Jeanne Ives ran against Governor Bruce Rauner in the Republican Primary in 2018, she released a a very racist and transphobic ad (which had an obvious man with a five oclock shadow in a dress excited that he would be in the little girls bathroom) which also accused all immigrants of being criminals."
[22:38]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ thinks I'm transphobic and I'm actually not. Keith was something else entirely (verified by every psychiatrist he saw, which was many, not just the opinion of one or two).
[22:39]	DaemonFC	And then so was the ad from Jeanne Ives.
[22:40]	DaemonFC	It's a recurring theme among some of them that all transgender people are really just "men in a dress who want into the little girls bathroom so they can molest your daughter", and that really is transphobia.
[22:40]	DaemonFC	By accusing everyone they see of it, people like mjg59_ cheapen the entire concept and make it harder to call out people like Ives for that.
[22:42]	DaemonFC	His former employer protects Ives from criticism by preventing the public from seeing her video and coming to their own conclusion about why they should not vote for her.
[22:42]	DaemonFC	She's obviously calculated that it will be easier to stay in Illinois elected office if people don't see that video.
[22:42]	DaemonFC	That's why it's gone now.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	I wonder if mjg59_ would be willing to comment on this video and to say more about the nature of his departure from Google.
[22:45]	DaemonFC	Such as whether it was his idea and if things like protecting transphobes from public opinion was part of that?
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[23:15]	DaemonFC	I have no idea what the point is of a "Save America" rally in Illinois is, unless maybe he thinks that he'll keep the grift going.
[23:15]	DaemonFC	Even though their votes don't matter, they can open their checkbooks. Some of them.
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[23:20]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR there's no corruption in the UK.
[23:21]	DaemonFC	Certainly not Qatar handing Prince Charles duffelbags full of cash.
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[23:34]	DaemonFC	schestowitz_TR, NordVPN changed their terms of use the other day.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	It conflicts, it seems.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	It maintains that they don't log anything about you, but that they can remove you for violating laws or infringing copyrights.
[23:35]	DaemonFC	How can they do that if they really don't know what you're doing?
[23:52]	DaemonFC	https://www.charminsolutions.com/
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[23:53]	DaemonFC	A one month toilet paper roll.
[23:53]	DaemonFC	For people who have trouble changing a roll of toilet paper?
[23:53]	DaemonFC	Why don't they just go back to 400 sheets per roll, which fits in a standard dispenser instead of 284 sheets per roll?