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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Okular is making filling out these immigration forms a bit easier. | Jul 26 00:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It says forms aren't supported and then goes ahead and they work anyway..... Odd. | Jul 26 00:03 |
| schestowitz | > FWIW, I had *very* low expectations going into that. If the SEC were competent then they wouldn’t need someone like me pointing this stuff out to them and would be regulating the hell out of Microsoft and the like. | Jul 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Jul 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | > Hell, 99% of the reason that I feel compelled to even write anything about Microsoft at all is because I maintain a firm belief that regulation exists purely in the realm of theatrics in this country. | Jul 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | When can you pass along to us what you sent to the SEC? | Jul 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | FWIW, better regulation is attained by airing bad laundry, as Wikileaks did for ~14 years and as Techrigthts does to EPO every day. The European regulatory agencies are also a joke; they're in cahoots. We need combative alternatives that air the "laundry"... | Jul 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | Tell me when you're ready go go public with all this; piecewise we can up the pressure to do something. | Jul 26 00:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Okular had work done to it by gsoc serfs last year | Jul 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | iirc, they added some advanced thing like these | Jul 26 00:05 |
| schestowitz | *Things | Jul 26 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're really trying not to shut USCIS down. | Jul 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think Congress will give them some money to limp on. | Jul 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some people suggest sending in your work permit reauthorization forms 120 days before the current ones expire. | Jul 26 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But considering what's going on, I'm thinking probably 180 just to add some safety margin. | Jul 26 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The forms say definitely don't do it much earlier than that. | Jul 26 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They automatically extend your current one 120 days past the date it says upon receipt, to give themselves more time. | Jul 26 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I'm not terribly alarmed at running into some kind of a brick wall here. | Jul 26 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So just applying for a new one makes the expiration date on his old one July of 2021 because of the automatic extension policy. | Jul 26 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Like I said. You have to plan for all contingencies. | Jul 26 00:09 |
| schestowitz | I have noooo idea what you're talking about | Jul 26 00:10 |
| schestowitz | most deadly covid saturday since may... | Jul 26 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Immigration work permit. | Jul 26 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's executive order exempts spouses of US citizens from not being able to get one. | Jul 26 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In theory, since they can't give one to most people, that lets us cut the line. | Jul 26 00:12 |
| schestowitz | all-time global record for a saturday, too | Jul 26 00:13 |
| schestowitz | and for us covid19 | Jul 26 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's not being "nice" it's just that not exempting us would leave an opening for a lawsuit he'd lose. | Jul 26 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would deprive US citizens of a benefit granted by law. | Jul 26 00:13 |
| schestowitz | tbh, I am looking into tech issues at the moment | Jul 26 00:13 |
| schestowitz | or science, medicine... | Jul 26 00:14 |
| schestowitz | I need help with the IBM stuff | Jul 26 00:14 |
| schestowitz | see GNU petition above | Jul 26 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The "bullshit projection" got updated again. | Jul 26 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're now saying 220,000 dead in the US of this by November 1st. | Jul 26 00:14 |
| *schestowitz uploads IRC logs | Jul 26 00:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | They keep moving the date back with each hike so that you can't remember easily what they said before, because it was way wrong. | Jul 26 00:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So plan on 250,000+ | Jul 26 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We'll be at 160,000 by August 1st, and we were only going to have 67,500 by August 4th in late April according to these folks. | Jul 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is the model where Americans basically stopped dying of COVID-19 bu June 1st. | Jul 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Each time they kick the data back, they also give new numbers that are less bullshit than the previous estimate. | Jul 26 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no science behind this. It's like "easing you in". | Jul 26 00:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By December 31st, we might have more US dead than American soldiers killed in World War II, total. | Jul 26 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So saying that there might be a few initial doses of a vaccine in January doesn't mean a hell of a lot, even if it was true. | Jul 26 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It only helps the 20-30% that managed to avoid it up to that point. | Jul 26 00:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | 90 bankruptcy filings in Illinois Northern District yesterday. | Jul 26 00:36 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel: Mount Notification. Input Output Manager http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140287 [https://pleroma.site/objects/64c881cd-3dd2-4102-ade3-60cb2f6f897c] | Jul 26 00:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That actually seems to be a good show. I liked the "Psychologist dog" thing. | Jul 26 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "What's the minimum you need so you won't throw yourself into that thing?" (He tried to delete his program to get out of this permanent afterlife app.) | Jul 26 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there was a sort of "Artificial Reality Grindr". :/ | Jul 26 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This has obviously been inspired a little bit by Demolition Man. | Jul 26 00:42 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kevin Fenzi: pinephone: initial thoughts http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140288 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ab5afef9-0393-4dcb-8f82-ad5606e41dfb] | Jul 26 00:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't be surprised if Grindr did introduce a "rate this hookup" feature. | Jul 26 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Someone in New York City got even with his ex by posting a fake profile on Grindr and setting his GPS to the guy's house with a fake GPS app, which is how John would bypass "premium" and go search as far out as he wanted. | Jul 26 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He got hundreds and hundreds of men showing up to the guy's house. | Jul 26 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That wouldn't work as revenge on John, obviously. | Jul 26 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically, Android lets you fake the GPS location apps get. Grindr tries to charge extra for "Xtra" to see past a few miles from your current location and talk to them. It has a feature that lets you look anywhere, but you can't talk to them unless you pay more money. | Jul 26 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't think that iPhones let you spoof GPS, so John probably never will get one because then he'd have to pay for Grindr. | Jul 26 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "How in the hell would YOU even figure out how to do that?". | Jul 26 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This year is plunging the world into Brave New World and 1984 at the same time. | Jul 26 00:49 |
| schestowitz | prostitution city | Jul 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | 850 death, won't make it to 900, but still all time highs for this dat | Jul 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | *day of the week | Jul 26 00:51 |
| schestowitz | cases and deaths | Jul 26 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.yelp.com/biz/cancer-treatment-centers-of-america-chicago-ctca-zion | Jul 26 00:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cancer Treatment Centers of America, Chicago - CTCA - 36 Photos & 30 Reviews - Medical Centers - 2520 Elisha Ave, Zion, IL - Phone Number - Yelp | Jul 26 00:52 | |
| schestowitz | it's going to be trouble as the election nears | Jul 26 00:52 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "The entire 'CTCA' chain is an unbelievably greedy, terrible conglomerate | Jul 26 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | that doesn't care about you, your family or anything else except money. | Jul 26 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | PERIOD." | Jul 26 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone met Maricel, I see. :P | Jul 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | "Contact the business for more information about recent service changes." | Jul 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | I noticed those added charges for COVID | Jul 26 00:52 |
| schestowitz | today I struggled to get the person at the shop to actually do the checkout | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | they try to outsource everything to clients | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | and covid gives them another excuse | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | eventually all I needed to do was pack the stuff in the bags and pick up the change from the machine | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | the guy did the rest | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | I try to defend their job | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | and their bosses tell them off.. for doing their job | Jul 26 00:53 |
| schestowitz | as if the goal is to lay them all off | Jul 26 00:54 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I like where this show is going. | Jul 26 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone trashed a bunch of his memory files. It turned out that he was designing a free app that lets people upload into a computer their family owns after they die and that's when his "self driving car" malfunctioned and ran into a garbage truck. | Jul 26 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he's talking to this guy in the upload world who says "So you got murdered?" He says, "No, I was in a car crash.". The guy says, "Sure, you threatened a $600 billion dollar a year industry and nobody murdered you.". | Jul 26 01:10 |
| schestowitz | Hastings | Jul 26 01:11 |
| schestowitz | CIA | Jul 26 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's making more sense now. At the hospital he didn't seem that badly injured but they were leaning on him to accept an upload that would certainly kill him. | Jul 26 01:13 |
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| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/qPcdlkoTOJFdDGlHyOgcRUxE > | Jul 26 01:43 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jul 26 01:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She misspelled Maricel. Sounds like the patients hate her though. | Jul 26 01:44 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Ah, MinceR So, they did anticipate what I was talking about. | Jul 26 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of people die, and would want to keep working after they "uploaded", driving down wages. | Jul 26 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So apparently there's a law against that. Okay.... | Jul 26 02:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Maricel as a nurse navigator reminds me of that joke about the Emergency Medical Hologram in Voyager. | Jul 26 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It had such a terrible attitude that they called it the Extremely Marginal Housecall. | Jul 26 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hey that was a good joke about crime. | Jul 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Careful, the camera adds 10 years.". | Jul 26 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think I'd rather just not exist than the idea of existence going on forever. | Jul 26 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hell, for me, would be forever in a freemium game. | Jul 26 02:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Turns out there is a basic level for people who don't have any money. It's full of books with 5 pages as a preview and things like that. The funny part is that this is an Amazon web series and Amazon gives you 5 pages of a book as a free preview. | Jul 26 02:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They accidentally make a very good point about paid ebooks and DRM and only being able to read if you have money being "horrible" in their own TV series. | Jul 26 02:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now that there is no public library because of COVID-1984, it should make an even bigger statement than they might have intended. | Jul 26 02:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Conceivably, within this show, you can do anything you want, but it charges real money for everything. So even though there is no need to charge money for golf clubs, or books, or anything really (as they're a computer program and it can make as many copies as it wants), they do charge money for it because they can. | Jul 26 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even more hellish is that there's ads that pop up, like the AI person screaming at you to buy chewing gum that one of the people punched in the face. | Jul 26 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "There's a heaven, but it's freemium and full of ads. You get to spend eternity there, and if you have no money you sit in an empty room." | Jul 26 02:53 |
| MinceR | there is a "heaven", but it's hell | Jul 26 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yep. | Jul 26 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's only heaven if you died extremely rich. | Jul 26 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So rich that you can fund amusements for yourself for basically all eternity. | Jul 26 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The protagonist isn't rich. His girlfriend is paying for everything. | Jul 26 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he's kind of screwed if she gets pissed off. | Jul 26 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The last part I saw, she might have been the one to kill him. | Jul 26 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This seems like something my sister in law would do to her husband. | Jul 26 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trap him in a freemium game so if he speaks out he gets his spending limits zeroed out and gets to be in an empty room for all eternity. | Jul 26 03:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You awaken to find yourself in a capitalist cesspit. | Jul 26 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It costs them nothing to copy an item over and over but for some reason, it's real money to use one, and a lot of it. | Jul 26 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: There's vague references to Apple in there. | Jul 26 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | One guy found a glitch in the program where if you banged the door on the ice machine a bunch of times, it would spit out free donuts. | Jul 26 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd think that the kid who died at 13 could request that they age his avatar to 19 so he could at least be as old as his brother in the real works. The guy that's like 90. Why would you want to be 90 forever? Have them take 50 or 60 years off. | Jul 26 04:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR:They worked Taco Bell in. | Jul 26 05:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's "Nokia Taco Bell" though. | Jul 26 05:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | GZDoom has a Snap package. | Jul 26 06:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might just grab that. | Jul 26 06:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Doom never really gets old. | Jul 26 06:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I get bored with it for a while and then someone makes improvements to the engine again. | Jul 26 06:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John Carmack released all of the engines through the Doom 3 BFG engine under the GPL. | Jul 26 06:43 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I may switch to the Firefox ESR snap when they bring in 78. | Jul 26 06:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1591751 | Jul 26 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 1591751 - Firefox Snap doesn't respect or use the SNAP Theming API | Jul 26 06:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | According to this, Breeze and Breeze Dark are supported. | Jul 26 06:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I do wonder if the KDE Integration plugin works though. | Jul 26 06:53 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140291 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f14d316d-51d9-43be-943f-c1f6e33e1ee1] | Jul 26 07:10 | |
| schestowitz | x https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/24/21336882/microsoft-surface-duo-launch-date-fcc-certifications-rumors | Jul 26 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft’s Surface Duo looks like it’s ready to launch - The Verge | Jul 26 07:13 | |
| schestowitz | # spam | Jul 26 07:13 |
| psydread | вейпорвер | Jul 26 07:13 |
| scientes | psydread, the translator doesn't work on that | Jul 26 07:20 |
| scientes | I can pronounce it, but have no idea what it means | Jul 26 07:20 |
| scientes | ahhh | Jul 26 07:20 |
| scientes | vapor ware | Jul 26 07:20 |
| scientes | its English | Jul 26 07:20 |
| psydread | yes | Jul 26 07:20 |
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| scientes | I switched my laptop to Russian and for the most part I just click buttons and pray | Jul 26 07:22 |
| psydread | I can totally think of a Russian meme or video extolling the benefits of vapourware | Jul 26 07:22 |
| scientes | yes, that fits the Russian humor nicely | Jul 26 07:23 |
| scientes | did you see that video about shoveling a horse stable "docker container"? | Jul 26 07:23 |
| psydread | I don't think I have | Jul 26 07:25 |
| psydread | oh, I did | Jul 26 07:26 |
| scientes | XRevan86, ^ | Jul 26 07:26 |
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| psydread | I want to do more but I'm struggling a bit with this Anki application | Jul 26 07:28 |
| psydread | for Russian, I mean | Jul 26 07:28 |
| scientes | I got stock a little past half-way in Pimsleurs | Jul 26 07:29 |
| scientes | but now that I live with RUssian speakers I am progressing again | Jul 26 07:29 |
| scientes | but I do wish i had something like stories.duolingo.com | Jul 26 07:29 |
| scientes | it was quite helpful with spanish | Jul 26 07:29 |
| scientes | and now I can read Wikipedia in Spanish | Jul 26 07:30 |
| scientes | and enjoy Spanish pop music | Jul 26 07:30 |
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| psydread | now that you are not living in a country where they speak Spanish, your Spanish has improved | Jul 26 07:31 |
| scientes | yeah, pretty much | Jul 26 07:32 |
| scientes | it is because I spent enough time not speaking English for it to set it | Jul 26 07:32 |
| psydread | that's typical and shows that you don't necessarily have to live in a country where they speak the language from the outset | Jul 26 07:32 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO9XbqPzKdU | Jul 26 07:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Isabela Souza, Elenco de BIA - Así yo soy (From "BIA"/Official Video) - YouTube | Jul 26 07:33 | |
| scientes | perhaps this was chosen carefully, but Portugales and Spanish are quite similar | Jul 26 07:33 |
| psydread | I lived in Poland for a while and in the end I was glad to move to Ireland because I could just communicate freely with people | Jul 26 07:33 |
| scientes | whenever I hear Portugese I feel it is like Spanish spoken by a drunk person | Jul 26 07:33 |
| psydread | with a better command of Polish it would be less of a problem, but at least I learned some | Jul 26 07:34 |
| scientes | here in Georgia you can certainly get by in Russia | Jul 26 07:34 |
| scientes | English less so | Jul 26 07:34 |
| scientes | *in Russian | Jul 26 07:34 |
| psydread | I feel like that about Portuguese too, but in writing I mostly understand it and my listening comprehension is getting better too | Jul 26 07:36 |
| scientes | Tbilisi speaks more English | Jul 26 07:36 |
| scientes | I read the history of Georgia translated into English | Jul 26 07:37 |
| scientes | and it shows the deep identity with Christ | Jul 26 07:37 |
| psydread | some of my friends have extensively travelled in the region, because they always got these cheap flights or land routes from Poland and Ukraine | Jul 26 07:42 |
| scientes | so they take the ferry to Udessa? | Jul 26 07:43 |
| scientes | from Batumi | Jul 26 07:43 |
| psydread | one in Kraków just got these cheap flights | Jul 26 07:44 |
| psydread | and the other one probably did that, yes | Jul 26 07:44 |
| scientes | you would have to fly to Kutaisi, and then take a bus to Batumi, and then the ferry to Odessa | Jul 26 07:44 |
| psydread | as he's Ukrainian | Jul 26 07:44 |
| psydread | I've always wanted to go to such places and maybe I will once all of this is over | Jul 26 07:46 |
| scientes | psydread, it will never be over | Jul 26 08:07 |
| scientes | that is the whole point | Jul 26 08:07 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/21/uk_abandons_upc/ | Jul 26 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | UK formally abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court, Germany plans to move forward nevertheless • The Register | Jul 26 08:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://soylentnews.org/politics/article.pl?sid=20/07/25/024218 | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | UK Formally Abandons Europe’s Unified Patent Court - SoylentNews | Jul 26 08:32 | |
| schestowitz | I've heard "privilege of rank" bandied around... | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | This I'd China's "privilege of sovereignty". | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | We make laws to cripple ourselves. | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | China builds things. | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | Can I blame them? | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | The death of the UPC [techrights.org] through the loss of the UK from Europe was confirmed this way at the beginning of the year. That was one small benefit of Brexit, perhaps the only one. It may be a few years before the crooks pushing for it can regroup and try some other way to sneak software patents into Europe. The UPC was mainly intended as a way of doing an end run around European laws in order to impose software patents. The | Jul 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | 1973 European Patent Convention specifically excludes software from patent law, leaving copyright for that. | Jul 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | Now that Groklaw is in archive mode and the other sites have either shut down or changed topics, Roy at Techrights has really been the last one to cover the UPC [techrights.org] or, for that matter, the profoundly corrupt EPO [techrights.org] which has been pushing for the UPC. | Jul 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | The UPC is dead, but the crowd pushing for it has not been jailed yet. So keep your eyes open for further developments and possible need to defend software use (and development) in the EU. | Jul 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | Notice how often the EU uses the word "Europe" to refer to itself, as if they are the representatives of the entire continent. As if the EU is inescapable and inevitable. As if any European country not a member of the EU doesn't exist. | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | The EU will ultimately fail in its grand aims like all poorly thought out utopias. | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | "Incidentally, it is quite common for people to mean USA when they simply say America. Does Trump mean both the American continents when he mentions MAGA?" | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | "The plural "Americas" exists, it's not widely used because nobody gives a shit about South America or Canada." | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | "The EU is the new USSR. We must stand up against their tyranny and attempts to impose their laws and will on the rest of the world." | Jul 26 08:34 |
| schestowitz | 'I'm not super happy about it really. Current EU, and future EU, is not the EU most people voted about joining -- it started out as a sort of trade union but has now moved in a very disturbing direction I'm not sure I really want to be a part of at all. I was sort of hoping Brexit would have gone smoother and it would have rippled thru the northern parts of Europe to just ditch this crap cause this just isn't what was the plan. I'm | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | also more scared that it's turning more into the new USSR then another say United States." | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | Some former members of the USSR are now in the EU. Would you like to ask them to compare? | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | No need - someone already has [independent.co.uk]. | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | But keep on asking that DUMB ass question for another 4 years - maybe you'll finally read the answer. | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Participating in a court that applies EU law and is bound by the CJEU would be inconsistent with the Government's aims of becoming an independent self-governing nation," she said. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | The Alt-Wrong propaganda Newspeak of the Kippers, Faragists and ERG has now made its way into actual government. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | The UK was always self-governing (within the EU) as are the other 27 member countries. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | As for independence, well, technically we were independent, as are the other 27 countries. They are "sovereign countries" and proud of it. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | "Participating in a court that applies EU law and is bound by the CJEU..." See, that's one of the things about cooperating with other countries on things like trade, intellectual properties, food safety, environmental protection and so on, you need to agree a legal framework that everyone can accept and abide by. There are not imposed by some malevolent foreign dictators. These are agreements designed by, developed by, agreed by and | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | implemented by cooperating partners, as equals, democratically. The EU, for example, provides quite an efficient and fair democratic system for such things. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Of course, this is all lost on the Kippers, Faragists, ERG and "patriot" types. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | They'll get a shock when we (UK) do our "trade deal" with the USA where we essentially hand over some of our sovereignty to American courts and corporate lobbyists who will arbitrate in any trade disputes. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | This is freedumb, dimocracy and British Sovereign Tea. Rule Britannia etc. Support for Scottish independence is now polling at 54% and rising. | Jul 26 08:36 |
| schestowitz | " | Jul 26 08:36 |
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| schestowitz | "Stephen Yoder of IBM Corp. will review and analyze the latest judicial guideposts regarding the role and weight of objective indicia in evaluating the non-obviousness of a claimed invention, and focus on recent decisions from the Federal Circuit and PTAB, which have clarified the nexus aspect of this issue." https://www.patentdocs.org/2020/07/ipo-webinar-on-secondary-considerations.html | Jul 26 09:07 |
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| scientes | psydread, oh, I got those books on guilds in Europe and it is very interesting | Jul 26 10:43 |
| scientes | the impression I get is that guilds were a huge source of democracy | Jul 26 10:43 |
| scientes | *democratic involvement | Jul 26 10:44 |
| scientes | and provided the journeyman education system that is much more resiliant than the now extremely corrupt university system (at least in the US) | Jul 26 10:44 |
| psydread | scientes, I agree, there is still a system with vocational training in some countries such as Germany and Switzerland and it works better than requiring everyone to have a university degree | Jul 26 10:50 |
| psydread | I would say it's corrupt here in the Netherlands too | Jul 26 10:51 |
| psydread | they are even reintroducing scholarships, because the current system of having to take out student loans causes too much stress and debt for students | Jul 26 10:52 |
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| psydread | now people are protesting the fact that more and more computing systems are being shipped with GNU/Linux, even if there are bazillions that ship with Backdoors | Jul 26 11:53 |
| schestowitz | who protests this? | Jul 26 12:06 |
| schestowitz | I remember Microsoft moaning when that happened in China, saying these were "pirated" | Jul 26 12:07 |
| schestowitz | as if we're forced to assume all buyers would replace that with unlicensed Winddreck | Jul 26 12:07 |
| schestowitz | With this logic they can't lose | Jul 26 12:07 |
| schestowitz | what's ours is ours | Jul 26 12:07 |
| schestowitz | and what's not ours is "piracy" so "PAY UP!" | Jul 26 12:08 |
| psydread | Windows addicts | Jul 26 12:10 |
| psydread | yes | Jul 26 12:10 |
| psydread | this is the next step in their fight | Jul 26 12:11 |
| psydread | such a powerful laptop is unnecessary for running Linux, Linux is for older hardware | Jul 26 12:11 |
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| scientes | psydread, I was reading that in the 18th century all the town councils became dominated by university-educated lawyers, when before they had often been merchants, although it happened at different times in different places | Jul 26 12:33 |
| scientes | and supposedly Barcelona was always lawyers | Jul 26 12:33 |
| scientes | You can see this in Les Miserables | Jul 26 12:34 |
| scientes | and France was late to industrailize, and after the revolution banned the guilds to strengthen Napleon's government | Jul 26 12:34 |
| scientes | the argument of this book I am reading is that the Peace of Westphalia system and Nationalism *deteroriated* democracy by marginilizing guilds and local citizenship | Jul 26 12:35 |
| psydread | that sounds like an interesting book to read for me too | Jul 26 12:37 |
| scientes | and considering that 50% of surviving guild petitions became law, I think that is a convincing argument | Jul 26 12:38 |
| scientes | "Citizens without Nations" Maarten Prak, translated from Dutch | Jul 26 12:38 |
| psydread | oh right, I remember you told me about another one of this books before | Jul 26 12:39 |
| schestowitz | [12:11] <psydread> such a powerful laptop is unnecessary for running Linux, Linux is for older hardware | Jul 26 12:54 |
| schestowitz | yeah, linux is for geeks | Jul 26 12:54 |
| schestowitz | and geeks just use Word and Minesweeper anyway | Jul 26 12:54 |
| schestowitz | nothing professional... | Jul 26 12:54 |
| scientes | ^^^^ | Jul 26 13:00 |
| scientes | the Linux is only for obsolete computers thing is non-sense | Jul 26 13:00 |
| XRevan86 | psydread, scientes: старовер, родновер, вейпорвер :) | Jul 26 13:04 |
| schestowitz | Linux for obsolete computers | Jul 26 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Mac OS for mentally-dead computers (vegetables) | Jul 26 13:06 |
| schestowitz | Windows for corpses | Jul 26 13:06 |
| schestowitz | "I'll have LINUX PLEASE!" | Jul 26 13:06 |
| scientes | XRevan86, I can't think of a good come-back | Jul 26 13:06 |
| XRevan86 | vapourwhere? | Jul 26 13:09 |
| scientes | vaporware https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1203/8500/products/WAX-5DEGREE-PURP_1024x1024.jpg?v=1507869499 | Jul 26 13:10 |
| XRevan86 | вейповеры :) | Jul 26 13:11 |
| psydread | :) | Jul 26 13:13 |
| scientes | tupperware https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2018/4/24/saupload_Tupperware-kf0-U20918220516g8-1024x576_GP-Web.jpg | Jul 26 13:13 |
| scientes | hardware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WccfbPQNMbg | Jul 26 13:13 |
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| scientes | more hardware https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/09a6967c-024e-4416-b1ff-6965230a8f65/svn/yellow-3m-hard-hats-chh-r-y6-64_1000.jpg | Jul 26 13:14 |
| schestowitz | soft-wear | Jul 26 13:15 |
| scientes | schestowitz, software https://media.customon.com/unsafe/1200x1200/img.customon.com/img/3843497/12493,21,0,0,22,176,121.75916230366,22,30,1482774224-Funny-Programmer-Love-Coffee-Quote-turn-into-Code-T-Shirt/merchantimagenew/funny-programmer-love-coffee--youth-t-shirt-green.jpg | Jul 26 13:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe really bad code | Jul 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz | code is abundant these days | Jul 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz | you can legally copy a lot of good code | Jul 26 13:16 |
| XRevan86 | Caesar's code | Jul 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz | "Code is weak" | Jul 26 13:16 |
| schestowitz | "Caesar is weaker" | Jul 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz | (reference from Planet of the Apes trilogy) | Jul 26 13:17 |
| schestowitz | wow, US registered 67,413 new covid19 cases yesterday (I was asleep when the tally ended) | Jul 26 13:18 |
| scientes | In the classic history of Georgia the Georgian queen Tamar married a Russian nobelman who (as she predicted) was a drunkard who like to have men beaten and dismembered | Jul 26 13:18 |
| schestowitz | 70k for a Saturday... not bad | Jul 26 13:18 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: "she predicted" – she liked what she saw? | Jul 26 13:19 |
| schestowitz | which PART of it? | Jul 26 13:19 |
| scientes | it says she had to be persuaded to marry him | Jul 26 13:19 |
| scientes | and then she endured for 2.5 eyars | Jul 26 13:19 |
| XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yury_Bogolyubsky | Jul 26 13:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Yury Bogolyubsky - Wikipedia | Jul 26 13:22 | |
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| scientes | yeah that's it | Jul 26 13:23 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_Hungary%27s_border_fence_with_Austria | Jul 26 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Removal of Hungary's border fence with Austria - Wikipedia | Jul 26 13:44 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Any articles about removing "Republic"? | Jul 26 13:44 |
| schestowitz | doing an article.. | Jul 26 13:45 |
| schestowitz | https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/10/23/Hungary-declares-itself-a-republic/1072625118400/ | Jul 26 13:46 |
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| MinceR | schestowitz: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/blogpost/post/hungary-loses-republic-name-and-protests-fill-capital/2012/01/03/gIQAYCaMYP_blog.html | Jul 26 14:24 |
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| psydread | loses 'Republic' and gains 'Dictatorship' | Jul 26 14:40 |
| psydread | what's the big deal? | Jul 26 14:41 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: too late.. | Jul 26 14:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/watson-article-ibm-medal-from-hitler.png | Jul 26 15:13 |
| schestowitz | oops | Jul 26 15:13 |
| schestowitz | wrong paste | Jul 26 15:13 |
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| scientes | oh god, Russian YouTube stars are as bad as the English ones | Jul 26 18:37 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcwk8bx0Flg | Jul 26 18:37 |
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| schestowitz | worse than lalalala song? | Jul 26 18:38 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: worse | Jul 26 18:39 |
| scientes | I couldn't find dry beans for under $2/kilo | Jul 26 18:41 |
| scientes | which is 10x what the farmer gets | Jul 26 18:42 |
| scientes | do they think I am an imbicle? | Jul 26 18:42 |
| scientes | (yes) | Jul 26 18:42 |
| scientes | and the small stores do not even have them | Jul 26 18:43 |
| scientes | how do people get enough protein around here? | Jul 26 18:43 |
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| psydread | > worse than lalalala song? | Jul 26 20:30 |
| psydread | which of them? | Jul 26 20:30 |
| schestowitz | the one that goes la la la :0) | Jul 26 20:30 |
| psydread | also MS shills are the worst out there and are never honest about their affiliations until you call them out and they start projecting their own qualities onto you | Jul 26 20:31 |
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| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/x1cv5rf747d51.jpg | Jul 26 20:32 |
| psydread | unfortunately for them I'm quite good at reading people | Jul 26 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: If you want a very popular Russian videoblogger on YouTube who doesn't make horrible content, check out BadComedian. | Jul 26 20:34 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: nice play of words | Jul 26 20:47 |
| schestowitz | [20:31] <psydread> also MS shills are the worst out there and are never honest about their affiliations until you call them out and they start projecting their own qualities onto you | Jul 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | Not just Microsoft and not just tech | Jul 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | universal tactic of deceit | Jul 26 20:50 |
| schestowitz | "Crooked Hillary" | Jul 26 20:51 |
| schestowitz | (Trump not crooked, totally honest man) | Jul 26 20:51 |
| schestowitz | Sleepy Joe or demented | Jul 26 20:51 |
| schestowitz | (Trump is not demented or braindead) | Jul 26 20:51 |
| psydread | I know, you see it everywhere | Jul 26 21:10 |
| MinceR | trump from kindergarten | Jul 26 21:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The in laws paid too much for their bankruptcy lawyer. | Jul 26 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In 2012 they paid $850 more for their attorney than I did in 2020. | Jul 26 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also didn't apply for a waiver for the cost of going to the Fucking Fantasy Document counseling that's mandated by the court. | Jul 26 23:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there went another $30. | Jul 26 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I was running into a lot of lawyers from $1500-$2500 for a Chapter 7 straight bankruptcy. | Jul 26 23:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's still some out there who charge $800-1000 and I think if you're really collapsing financially you shouldn't pay for some high roller law firm's advertising budget. | Jul 26 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The money I saved is basically enough to pay the shop to fix these damned vacuum leaks that my car sprung. :/ | Jul 26 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is nice because I have to keep patching this thing to run for the next few years. | Jul 26 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This time they even have to invent a part to substitute for one GM doesn't make anymore because they don't want to encourage people to drive their old car around. | Jul 26 23:04 |
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