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| schestowitz | XRevan86: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~cjwatson/blog/lp-python3-progress.html | Sep 26 01:37 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chiark.greenend.org.uk | Porting Launchpad to Python 3: progress report | Sep 26 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | new | Sep 26 01:37 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, for large projects Python 3 has been a tough… | Sep 26 01:55 |
| XRevan86 | s/a // | Sep 26 01:56 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA GeForce vs. AMD Radeon Vulkan Neural Network Performance With NCNN http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142562 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e7e4e6d4-b6d7-4773-83bf-4769a704dba5] | Sep 26 01:56 | |
| XRevan86 | But things like the time.clock() removal – not so much. | Sep 26 01:56 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: yup | Sep 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | another kind of issue | Sep 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | more dev and testing | Sep 26 02:08 |
| schestowitz | for stuff that's not even used much anymore | Sep 26 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: When you have orphaned code (like pycrypto that Ariadne for some reason is using (orphaned crypto, that can't be good)), then it is indeed a problem. | Sep 26 02:09 |
| XRevan86 | When there's at least one half-asleep person who can deliver a fix, then not so much. GTK 3.20 was definitely a lot more annoying. | Sep 26 02:11 |
| schestowitz | > We've got to start promoting stuff that's not on Github. Nearly | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > everything is, but, you know. | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > I can't come up with any criteria for this. Everything that's not on | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > Github ultimately depends on something that is. Emacs now depends on | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > HarfBuzz. As if that's the only thing... | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > My honest advice to (all 5) people who are pissed off about this is, | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | > simply boycott software as much as possible. No kidding. Boycott software. | Sep 26 02:15 |
| schestowitz | Re: The sheer hypocrisy of it | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > Join Us! Supplement our corporate coffers with bribes to fight for your | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > freedom by preventing world-class experts and founders from doing so! | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > And people try to tell me things have improved. FSF-- any guesses what | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > the first "F" stands for? Talking about freedom but we won't let YOU | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > talk about it. Piss off... | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > I'm toying with the idea of never referring to the FSF again, and just | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > using the vague and technically-incorrect term "GNU Foundation" until a | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > day when that actually exists. | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > Because a GNU Foundation would be very nice. RMS would of course, remain | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > loyal to backstabbers, but I'm not going to do that. GNU is worth | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > salvaging. FSF is beyond reform. | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > And another thing-- | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > All this talk about LLVM, Steve Jobs and Obj-C, and who is the new | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > President? | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 26 02:16 |
| schestowitz | > *shakes head* | Sep 26 02:16 |
| MinceR | they could just refer to it as the Gratis Windows Foundation | Sep 26 02:17 |
| MinceR | because the systemd they're promoting is basically that :> | Sep 26 02:17 |
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| XRevan86 | I wonder what kind of thing would actually be able to topple the network effect that GitHub has. People can tolerate a lot, but some seemingly unimportant things can make a platform go poof in a matter of months. | Sep 26 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | What happened to Zoom was a miracle, a bad one. | Sep 26 02:20 |
| XRevan86 | Or Discord. It took people from Mumble in big numbers. | Sep 26 02:21 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: i switched it to cryptodome | Sep 26 02:29 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: yay :) | Sep 26 02:30 |
| XRevan86 | So everyone wins in the end. | Sep 26 02:31 |
| MinceR | i think we'll just have to get used to a lot fewer people actually caring about free software than we thought | Sep 26 02:32 |
| schestowitz | [02:17] <MinceR> they could just refer to it as the Gratis Windows Foundation | Sep 26 02:35 |
| schestowitz | I am doing a rebuttal right now | Sep 26 02:35 |
| schestowitz | Response to ESR on “Last Phase of the Desktop Wars” | Sep 26 02:35 |
| schestowitz | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8764 | Sep 26 02:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | Last phase of the desktop wars? | Armed and Dangerous | Sep 26 02:35 | |
| MinceR | ESR forgot to take the pink glasses off | Sep 26 02:36 |
| *XRevan86 stopped reading at the mention of MS Edge being ported. | Sep 26 02:36 | |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 26 02:36 |
| schestowitz | chromium | Sep 26 02:36 |
| schestowitz | many errors there | Sep 26 02:37 |
| schestowitz | so I will respond | Sep 26 02:37 |
| XRevan86 | "If you think this is fantasy, think again. " – *thinks* nope, still pure fantasy | Sep 26 02:38 |
| XRevan86 | > The best evidence that it’s already the plan is that Microsoft has already ported Edge to run under Linux. There is only one way that makes any sense, and that is as a trial run for freeing the rest of the Windows utility suite from depending on any emulation layer. | Sep 26 02:39 |
| XRevan86 | What the hay is he smoking | Sep 26 02:40 |
| kingoffrance | i.e. eg had that solaris free download...but im guessing those codebases are neither connected nor was any port to "unix" and/or posix maintained | Sep 26 02:41 |
| MinceR | i think he failed to recognize what happened to Linux | Sep 26 02:41 |
| MinceR | which is extra weird because i thought he'd at least notice the CoC issue... | Sep 26 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | So now Microsoft will have two consumer-oriented projects for GNU/Linux: Edge and Skype (client), both are based on Google's cross-platform code. | Sep 26 02:42 |
| XRevan86 | Big flipping deal. | Sep 26 02:42 |
| oiaohm | You missed teams | Sep 26 02:43 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, and Teams, yes. | Sep 26 02:43 |
| MinceR | ah yes, teams, which doesn't work properly anywhere :> | Sep 26 02:43 |
| schestowitz | I will integrate your comments if that's ok | Sep 26 02:43 |
| schestowitz | I am doing line by line rebuttal | Sep 26 02:44 |
| Ariadne | the thought that PC sales are declining is a fallacy | Sep 26 02:44 |
| Ariadne | people are still using PCs | Sep 26 02:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Remind him of Minecraft Bedrock. | Sep 26 02:44 |
| MinceR | i'm starting to suspect teams is an experiment in which they're trying to find out how long can they delay messages before people give up on teams | Sep 26 02:44 |
| Ariadne | NT is a problem though. | Sep 26 02:44 |
| Ariadne | writing drivers and subsystems for NT is a huge pain in the ass. | Sep 26 02:44 |
| Ariadne | it is possible that NT could be replaced down the road with a Linux kernel. that much I would believe. | Sep 26 02:45 |
| Ariadne | but POSIX? yeah right :) | Sep 26 02:45 |
| Ariadne | if you are going to make developers transition to new APIs, you would get them to transition to whatever the present state of the art is, not POSIX | Sep 26 02:45 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: If something like that would occur, it would definitely happen in such a way it wouldn't make anyone happier than Microsoft. | Sep 26 02:45 |
| MinceR | maybe they don't care anymore, they're just looking to do damage | Sep 26 02:46 |
| oiaohm | Ariadne: writing Linux drivers is also not painless | Sep 26 02:46 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: yeah. i guess what i'm saying is that we could see a windows OS based on linux kernel, in the same way that android is based on linux kernel, but otherwise unrelated to UNIX environment | Sep 26 02:46 |
| Ariadne | oiaohm: yes, *but* if vendors only have to target one API, it is easier. | Sep 26 02:46 |
| Ariadne | and as we add more and more cores | Sep 26 02:47 |
| oiaohm | Linux kernel internal ABI is nicely unstable and you should hear vendors yell about it. | Sep 26 02:47 |
| Ariadne | the shortcomings of NT are becoming more and more visible | Sep 26 02:47 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 26 02:47 |
| Ariadne | oiaohm: yes, but microsoft, like red hat and suse and canonical can solve that by providing a stable ABI | Sep 26 02:47 |
| oiaohm | Really redhat attempts at solving it don't work out. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| MinceR | they'll just tell gkh to declare a stable ABI | Sep 26 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Maybe Windows will eventually look more like macOS | Sep 26 02:48 |
| MinceR | and if it stops Linux development, they don't care | Sep 26 02:48 |
| oiaohm | The result of redhat stable kernels is lots of security fixes not applied. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| XRevan86 | Free kernel, completely useless to everyone else. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: yes, i suspect that is the plan anyway. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| oiaohm | Funny enough NT/Windows has the same problem. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| oiaohm | For some reason stable kernel ABI for drivers=security nightmare. | Sep 26 02:48 |
| oiaohm | That is stable kernel space ABI | Sep 26 02:49 |
| XRevan86 | It was funny hearing about the DirectX 12 shim for WSL as "Microsoft ported DX12 to Linux, they care!" | Sep 26 02:50 |
| oiaohm | Ariadne: some of Windows/NT short coming are the direct side effects of stable kernel space ABI. Google with Android is now pushing for mainlining of drivers. | Sep 26 02:51 |
| Ariadne | some. some is also poor design. | Sep 26 02:52 |
| Ariadne | some is also design targeting entirely different class of SMP | Sep 26 02:52 |
| XRevan86 | If Microsoft will port their calculator to GNU/Linux, everyone will lose it. Albeit that's very unlikely. | Sep 26 02:52 |
| Ariadne | when most kernels we use today were designed, SMP was 1-4 CPU cores total | Sep 26 02:52 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: its more interesting the DX12 userspace libraries from windows being brought on top of Linux there has been some talk if Microsoft is pondering DX12 work on the Linux DRI layer.(Mind you this could be evil profit) | Sep 26 02:52 |
| MinceR | they could just buy ibm and use gnome | Sep 26 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Linux is one of the rare kernels that have had to work on 1024 core + systems. | Sep 26 02:53 |
| MinceR | it comes with a calculator | Sep 26 02:53 |
| Ariadne | linux is basically the only kernel that has made the jump from classic SMP to this new world we live in with potentially hundreds of cores on the desktop | Sep 26 02:53 |
| oiaohm | Yes that is a single chip/motherboard. | Sep 26 02:54 |
| Ariadne | you put EPYC in a windows 10 box | Sep 26 02:54 |
| Ariadne | and it actually hurts your performance | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | thanks for discussing this | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | I am adding the comments above, will edit accordingly | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | he'll get the reply | Sep 26 02:54 |
| Ariadne | so really i do believe microsoft are shopping for a new kernel | Sep 26 02:54 |
| schestowitz | it shows in pingbacks in his blog setup | Sep 26 02:55 |
| Ariadne | that much seems plausible | Sep 26 02:55 |
| schestowitz | no comments yet | Sep 26 02:55 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: What are they to gain from that though? Unless they do it for Android, right? | Sep 26 02:55 |
| Ariadne | you have to keep in mind that linux provides, even for microsoft, lower capex and opex | Sep 26 02:56 |
| Ariadne | than redesigning NT to scale properly to these hundreds of cores systems being sold today | Sep 26 02:56 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Sold to whom? | Sep 26 02:56 |
| Ariadne | sold to workstation users | Sep 26 02:57 |
| Ariadne | AMD EPYC you can get up to 128 cores in a box | Sep 26 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Ariadne: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16007/hot-chips-2020-live-blog-manticore-4096core-riscv-330pm-pt You are talking hundred of core sorry that is low ball. Manticore is a 1024 cores per chiplet and 4 chiplets to a socket yes 4096 cores of I hope you scale. | Sep 26 02:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.anandtech.com | Hot Chips 2020 Live Blog: Manticore 4096-core RISC-V (3:30pm PT) | Sep 26 02:57 | |
| Ariadne | even enthusiast gaming PCs have up to 64 cores | Sep 26 02:57 |
| oiaohm | Yes its risc-v Linux kernel for a manticore. | Sep 26 02:58 |
| Ariadne | oiaohm: yes, but that's just the same scalability issue with classic SMP turned up to 11 | Sep 26 02:58 |
| Ariadne | oiaohm: linux already has solved it. | Sep 26 02:58 |
| Ariadne | things like ticketlocks, for example | Sep 26 02:58 |
| XRevan86 | Anyway, I think we can all agree MS Edge coming to GNU/Linux is not the Sign of Microsoft moving Windows to Linux. | Sep 26 02:59 |
| Ariadne | oh, absolutely not | Sep 26 02:59 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: Dx12 microsoft wants as a AI platform. | Sep 26 02:59 |
| Ariadne | even if windows were to use a linux kernel in future, they would still use their own APIs | Sep 26 02:59 |
| Ariadne | just like android | Sep 26 02:59 |
| XRevan86 | MS Edge has been available on Android all this time. | Sep 26 02:59 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: guess that means MS will relaunch Windows Phone as an Android fork | Sep 26 03:00 |
| Ariadne | ;) | Sep 26 03:00 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: A-ha, server application, now that makes sense… | Sep 26 03:00 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: If they're a gentleman. | Sep 26 03:01 |
| oiaohm | XRevan86: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/direct3d12/dml-intro DirectML Yes direct machine learning is the name of it and Microsoft designed it to work on DX12. Needing windows licenses for machine learning with the volume of machines need normally prices those solutions out the market at this stage. | Sep 26 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.microsoft.com | Introduction to DirectML - Win32 apps | Microsoft Docs | Sep 26 03:01 | |
| oiaohm | So DX12 coming it Linux would not supprise me. Of course it most likely will come with you have to pay fee to Microsoft. | Sep 26 03:02 |
| XRevan86 | oiaohm: That would make them less appealing than FOSS. | Sep 26 03:03 |
| XRevan86 | Probably not a fee. Not at first anyway. | Sep 26 03:04 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: To be serious, they do want to do exactly that %). | Sep 26 03:05 |
| XRevan86 | Except not a fork but manufacturers bundling all their crap on top of Android. | Sep 26 03:07 |
| MinceR | manufacturers already bundle a ton of microshit crap with their android devices | Sep 26 03:07 |
| XRevan86 | Yes. | Sep 26 03:08 |
| smnthermes | > [22:42:38] XRevan86: So now Microsoft will have two consumer-oriented projects for GNU/Linux: Edge and Skype (client), both are based on Google's cross-platform code. | Sep 26 03:17 |
| smnthermes | Probably Electron will come pre-installed on Windows | Sep 26 03:17 |
| schestowitz | [03:07] <MinceR> manufacturers already bundle a ton of microshit crap with their android devices | Sep 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | as part of patent settlements | Sep 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft blackmails them into bundling | Sep 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | because they're still a bunch of gangsters | Sep 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | and if you say this, you're racist, as Ballmer is out | Sep 26 03:37 |
| schestowitz | [03:17] <smnthermes> Probably Electron will come pre-installed on Windows | Sep 26 03:38 |
| schestowitz | [00:59] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #amazon works for #microsoft https://www.androidcentral.com/amazon-luna-will-be-powered-windows-not-linux-making-it-easier-devs-port-games #bezos #evilEmpire #ProprietarySoftware [https://pleroma.site/objects/3d89be20-7a1f-435b-a168-4ddaf63be0e3] | Sep 26 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidcentral.com | Amazon Luna will be powered by Windows, not Linux, making it easier for developers to port games | Android Central | Sep 26 03:38 | |
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| MinceR | indeed | Sep 26 03:38 |
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| schestowitz | does anyone want to proofread with me? | Sep 26 04:03 |
| schestowitz | it's ready, first draft | Sep 26 04:03 |
| schestowitz | quite long | Sep 26 04:03 |
| MinceR | that's what she said. | Sep 26 04:03 |
| schestowitz | her period was long | Sep 26 04:04 |
| MinceR | it was so long it was more like an ellipse | Sep 26 04:04 |
| MinceR | s/se$/sis/ | Sep 26 04:04 |
| MinceR | or an underscore | Sep 26 04:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/2020/09/25/re-last-phase-of-the-desktop-wars/ | Sep 26 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Response to Eric Raymond (ESR) on “Last Phase of the Desktop Wars” | Techrights | Sep 26 04:05 | |
| schestowitz | see if you can spot typos or suggest improvements | Sep 26 04:05 |
| schestowitz | I did this in one single pass | Sep 26 04:05 |
| schestowitz | checking over it npow | Sep 26 04:05 |
| schestowitz | *now | Sep 26 04:05 |
| schestowitz | so it's not final | Sep 26 04:05 |
| MinceR | "E" is missing after the first "TH" | Sep 26 04:05 |
| schestowitz | I wonder how that happened ;-) | Sep 26 04:06 |
| MinceR | "lock-i)" should be "lock-in)" | Sep 26 04:08 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Sep 26 04:08 |
| MinceR | that's all i could spot | Sep 26 04:12 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Sep 26 04:12 |
| schestowitz | I found a couple more | Sep 26 04:12 |
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| schestowitz | done for now | Sep 26 04:24 |
| schestowitz | took days off work next month | Sep 26 04:26 |
| schestowitz | Requested start date: 08/10/2020 | Sep 26 04:26 |
| schestowitz | Requested end date: 09/10/2020 | Sep 26 04:26 |
| schestowitz | Amount of leave requested: 2 (Days) | Sep 26 04:26 |
| schestowitz | so should be able to write some more | Sep 26 04:26 |
| schestowitz | my korean colleague will cover for me | Sep 26 04:26 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: cygwin I would not be comparing to that much. I remember how microsoft would not allow Xen drivers for windows and basically killed out colinux that did everything wsl2 does now. | Sep 26 04:38 |
| schestowitz | so? | Sep 26 05:00 |
| schestowitz | what makes that an improper comparison? | Sep 26 05:00 |
| schestowitz | This one is controlled by them | Sep 26 05:00 |
| schestowitz | so it's now "OK"? | Sep 26 05:00 |
| schestowitz | brb | Sep 26 05:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: still around? | Sep 26 05:06 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: colinux and xen stuff that Microsoft block against wsl2 and hyper-v stuff now shows that Microsoft has not wanted to be a team player and is still not wanting to be a team player. | Sep 26 05:17 |
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| MinceR | cocainum! | Sep 26 13:10 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/1KwRCN1.jpg | Sep 26 13:51 |
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| psydroid | it's nice that it's been cleared up that Amazon Luna is a mission to preserve Windows for a while longer when it should be dying as fast as possible | Sep 26 15:01 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/07/159995c782ca2154.jpg | Sep 26 15:02 |
| *XRevan86 hopes it won't handle the load. | Sep 26 15:02 | |
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| schestowitz | psydroid: says a lot about amazon | Sep 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz | they also cross-licensed patents with Microsoft | Sep 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz | over Linux('s dead body( | Sep 26 15:37 |
| schestowitz | that was almost a decade ago | Sep 26 15:37 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/689294.jpg | Sep 26 15:41 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/09/25/what-is-to-be-done-for-animals/ | Sep 26 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What is to Be Done for Animals - CounterPunch.org | Sep 26 15:54 | |
| scientes | psydroid, yeah, but people said that when they first managed to bride hosts to offer windows | Sep 26 15:55 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: https://youtu.be/XD1gbXO5f1Y check out the speech of this person | Sep 26 15:59 |
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| XRevan86 | The rhotic consonant specifically. | Sep 26 15:59 |
| scientes | the man has an accent? | Sep 26 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Outside of this feature he doesn't. | Sep 26 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | First time I hear an English-like approximant in Russian speech. | Sep 26 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | Usually the alternative sound by people who can't do a trill is uvular. | Sep 26 16:07 |
| XRevan86 | French-like | Sep 26 16:07 |
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| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: While saying Fhöns? :) | Sep 26 16:15 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKcWu0tsiZM | Sep 26 16:54 |
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| schestowitz | funny video | Sep 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz | but a bit over the top | Sep 26 16:55 |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/06/f7a22af647ced7e2.jpg | Sep 26 16:55 |
| schestowitz | http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=8114 | Sep 26 17:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esr.ibiblio.org | Slaves to speech suppression are masters of nothing | Armed and Dangerous | Sep 26 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 17:23 |
| schestowitz | Sep 26 17:23 | |
| schestowitz | Comes the news that the Python project has merged a request to partially eliminate the terms “master” and “slave” from its documentation on “diversity” grounds. Sensibly, Guido van Rossum at least refused to sever the project from uses of those terms in documentation of the underlying Unix APIs. | Sep 26 17:23 |
| schestowitz | I wish Guido had gone further and correctly shitcanned the change request as political bullshit up with which he will not put. I will certainly do that if a similar issue is ever raised in one of my projects. | Sep 26 17:23 |
| schestowitz | The problem here is not with the object-level issue of whether the terms “master” and “slave” might be offensive to some people. It’s with the meta-level of all such demands. Which the great comedian George Carlin once summed up neatly as follows: “Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners.” | Sep 26 17:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 26 17:23 |
| scientes | but the computer *is* our slave | Sep 26 17:24 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Strechit_ca1800-1810_non-sidesaddle_sailor_caricature.jpg | Sep 26 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:Strechit ca1800-1810 non-sidesaddle sailor caricature.jpg - Wikipedia | Sep 26 17:29 | |
| scientes | sexism is always the same | Sep 26 17:32 |
| scientes | and BTW the control of language never has anything to do with sexism or racism, et cetera | Sep 26 17:35 |
| scientes | it is always hypocritical | Sep 26 17:35 |
| schestowitz | it can be introduced from different directions | Sep 26 17:37 |
| schestowitz | or under different rationales if not pretenses | Sep 26 17:37 |
| scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdyin6uipy4 | Sep 26 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Kinda Racist? Try Diet Racism! - YouTube | Sep 26 17:39 | |
| scientes | like this is actual real | Sep 26 17:39 |
| scientes | except for the white privledge part | Sep 26 17:39 |
| scientes | *the white guilt thing | Sep 26 17:40 |
| scientes | that's dumb | Sep 26 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | "the white guilt thing" typically spread by the farther right | Sep 26 17:53 |
| schestowitz | ludicrous inversion | Sep 26 17:53 |
| schestowitz | like "reverse-racism" | Sep 26 17:53 |
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| MinceR | (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/06/4914bfcf97397336.mp4 | Sep 26 18:36 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20011525 | Sep 26 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4284281) | Sep 26 19:08 | |
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| XRevan86 | The accent trolley problem: depending on what you say, I'll either pull the lever, a leaver or a laver. | Sep 26 21:12 |
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| MinceR | :> | Sep 26 21:27 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://youtu.be/-8mzWkuOxz8 | Sep 26 21:35 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: Not what I wanted to hear from the Lancashire area :) | Sep 26 21:37 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 26 21:38 |
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| MinceR | https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-03-09 | Sep 26 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dilbert Feels Overwhelmed - Dilbert Comic Strip on 2019-03-09 | Dilbert by Scott Adams | Sep 26 23:06 | |
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