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[00:00] techrights-news #GNU #Linux users provide more detailed bug reports according to one indie dev http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157154#comment-31534
[00:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indie dev finds that Linux users generate more, better bug reports | Tux Machines
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[00:04] techrights-news #More insecurity in #hardware #SmashEx Intel Software Guard Extensions (SGX1 and SGX2) https://dwaves.de/2021/10/25/more-insecurity-in-hardware-smashex-intel-software-guard-extensions-sgx1-and-sgx2/ defective by design.
[00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- More insecurity in hardware SmashEx Intel Software Guard Extensions (SGX1 and SGX2) | dwaves.de
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[00:09] techrights-news Team Profile by KDE's Cornelius Schumacher https://blog.cornelius-schumacher.de/2021/10/team-profile.html
[00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cornelius-schumacher.de | Cornelius' Blog: Team Profile
[00:10] techrights-news #Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.43 Thank You https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/10/25/2021-43-thank-you/ #rakulang #programming #deletegithub
[00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.43 Thank You Rakudo Weekly News
[00:11] techrights-news Move! makes burning calories a bit more fun | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/25/move-makes-burning-calories-a-bit-more-fun/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
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[00:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Move! makes burning calories a bit more fun | Arduino Blog
[00:12] techrights-news Neuromorphic edge AI chip debuts on Raspberry Pi and Comet Lake dev kits http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157125#comment-31535
[00:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices/Embedded/Hardware Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:13] techrights-news Newest Linux Optimizations Can Achieve 10M IOPS Per-Core With IO_uring - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-IO_uring-10M-IOPS #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/26/#latest
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[00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Newest Linux Optimizations Can Achieve 10M IOPS Per-Core With IO_uring - Phoronix
[00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[00:15] techrights-news "i really appreciate your work ~solderpunk, gemini is and has continued to be a breath of fresh air amoungus in the tech world. i never thought i'd find something simple and nice enough that my non-tech partner would actually enjoy using" https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007413.html
[00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Lo, I have returned.
[00:16] techrights-news #LinuxFoundation uses the military term "bootcamp" just to remind us that we are 'cannon fodder' of charlatan #zemlin and slaves for the #monopolies he's fronting for https://www.devopsonline.co.uk/linux-foundation-to-introduce-new-devops-bootcamp/
[00:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.devopsonline.co.uk | Linux Foundation to introduce new DevOps Bootcamp DevOps Online
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[00:19] techrights-news Tackle The Monkey: Raspberry Pi Gets Round Screen | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/tackle-the-monkey-raspberry-pi-gets-round-screen/ #hackaday
[00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tackle The Monkey: Raspberry Pi Gets Round Screen | Hackaday
[00:20] techrights-news "To pull this off, [Andy] uses a camera with a fisheye lens aimed up towards the ceiling, and the video is processed on a Raspberry Pi 3. " Project needs to #deletegithub though https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/fast-indoor-robot-watches-ceiling-lights-instead-of-the-road/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github
[00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fast Indoor Robot Watches Ceiling Lights, Instead Of The Road | Hackaday
[00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights
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[00:39] techrights-news "On a personal note, I'm really glad he's back. I'm hoping with the conclusion of these changes we can just shut down this mailing list completely. It's the least Gemini thing about Gemini." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007412.html
[00:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[00:41] techrights-news "It is my personal hope that there will be no further versions of the spec once finalized, other than perhaps a change from TLS should it ever become extremely obsolete, decades from now." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007415.html
[00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[00:43] techrights-news In #geminispace we still have a 'tribe elders' mentality, which I like. Reminds me of #gnu ...
[00:45] techrights-news #Debian s Antoine Beaupr: The Neo-Colonial #Internet http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157188 #TuxMachines
[00:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian's Antoine Beaupr: The Neo-Colonial Internet | Tux Machines
[00:46] techrights-news #MarkText is a Minimal #freesw #Markdown Editor http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157189 #TuxMachines
[00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mark Text is a Minimal Open Source Markdown Editor | Tux Machines
[00:46] techrights-news New bash #programming articles http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157190 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New bash programming articles | Tux Machines
[00:46] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157191 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[00:47] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157192 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[00:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[00:49] techrights-news The 6 comments here help show that kind of racket or scam #CIPA #UK runs on behalf of abusive #litigation firms. http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/10/upcoming-cipa-webinar-on-mercer-review.html?showComment=1635173263684#c5463709473839347693
[00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Upcoming CIPA webinar on the Mercer Review, 29 Oct 2021 - The IPKat
[00:50] techrights-news Did you have to reboot #microsoft #windows h "Because of a technical issue at Public Health Wales, it was not possible to include reported cases and deaths within 28 days of a positive test in Wales." https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/whats-new/record/85d59206-e94c-4fd0-833a-72fc57f2919c
[00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/whats-new/record/85d59206-e94c-4fd0-833a-72fc57f2919c )
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[00:52] techrights-news LOL. You go to the "Linux" section at #zdnet and top of the page is #microsoft apologetics by SJVN (Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols). I've pretty much given up on him at this stage; it's just a better paid version of SPAMnil.
[00:53] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, SJVN pitching Microsoft Defender for Linux.
[00:53] DaemonFC With its rich investigative experiences and deluxe Corinthian leather.
[00:53] MinceR lol
[00:53] techrights-news SJVN on #microsoft : don't worry about those lion jaws. They don't bite. Look, it even smells good. The lion brushed its teeth.
[00:54] MinceR that's an insult to lions
[00:54] schestowitz-TR2 sorry
[00:55] techrights-news For One Game Dev, Linux Users Submit More Bug Reports Than Any Other http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157154#comment-31536
[00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Indie dev finds that Linux users generate more, better bug reports | Tux Machines
[00:56] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, That was my first thought with SJVN and Microsoft "Linux Defender". Ricardo Montelban doing the Chrysler Cordoba commercial.
[00:57] techrights-news If #linuxfoundation uses the term "bootcamp" to refer to us (soldiers), what does that make "Linux" and Zemlin's PAC? Oh, wait, I know... they're "air support" http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/
[00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away Peoples Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb in Peace) | Techrights
[00:57] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKHBB4vt4c
[00:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Famous Chrysler Cordoba Commercial with Ricardo Montalban!! - YouTube
[00:58] techrights-news Jim #zemlin and his #monopolies represent me as a #gnu #linux user like #billgates represents charities and people who ACTUALLY give away money https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
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[00:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
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[01:00] techrights-news #zdnet never covers stories like these https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/ you might say, "but they don't cover 'politics'"... oh, YES THEY DO! http://techrights.org/2020/09/10/sjvn-senior-moment/
[01:00] -altlink_12a/#techrights- Cloudflare: thenation.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/bill-gates-investments-covid/
[01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | While the Poor Get Sick, Bill Gates Just Gets Richer | The Nation
[01:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | One Year Later Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols Libel Against Richard Stallman Remains Online and Uncorrected at ZDNet | Techrights
[01:03] techrights-news "The C standard is an ISO standard." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007420.html #iso is just a totally corrupt farce, a 'standards mill' that takes money for pretence of compliance and "processes". STOP TREATING ISO LIKE IT'S WORTH THE PAPER. ISO needs to be abolished (we need replacements) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ISO
[01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[01:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ISO - Techrights
[01:04] techrights-news "Elections in a small, niche online community are a quick path to capture by groups who don't have the community's best interest in mind." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007419.html
[01:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
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[01:23] techrights-news "The live stream has ended; thank you for watching! A video recording may be made available in the coming days/weeks; please check back again later." RMS in Spanish. https://stallman.org/live/stream-8dot8-oct-23.html
[01:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Software libre, tu libertad, y tu ciberseguridad - Oct 23, 2021 - Richard Stallman
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[01:27] techrights-news "Solderpunk has written at least AV-98 (client) and molly-brown (server). He's not just some guy with a site and capsule; he's the person who created the spec and who still has ultimate control over it." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007421.html
[01:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[01:28] techrights-news "He wrote the original specification, and updated it with feedback from those that did write implementations (both servers and clients). And he also wrote a server (Molly-Brown) and a client (AV-98). To say he didn't write an implemetion is rewriting history." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007422.html
[01:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[01:29] techrights-news "Lately I have been feeling a little nostalgic (thanks no doubt to heavily rose-tinted glasses) about the kind of machines I first learned *nix on, 486 and 686 PCs with 16MB or 32MB of RAM, IDE drives, ISA and PCI cards." https://tilde.zone/@solderpunk/105457139848718416
[01:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solderpunk: "Lately I have been feeling a little nostalgic (th" - tilde.zone
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[01:30] techrights-news #Mastodon supports #gemini links https://fedi.9til.de/@julienxx/105451525056929601
[01:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedi.9til.de | C: "Latest Mastodon release supports #gemini links! h" - 9til.de
[01:34] schestowitz solderpunk is based in germany https://tilde.zone/@solderpunk/105187585644436992
[01:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Solderpunk: "Can anybody recommend a good online store for dea" - tilde.zone
[01:34] schestowitz the person behind gemini
[01:36] techrights-news #CAFC backs #PTAB again https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/federal-circuit-holds-that-the-ptab-1628481/ #patent extremists lose their minds http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/
[01:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Federal Circuit Holds That the PTAB Does Not Have an Impermissible Incentive to Institute IPRs | Knobbe Martens - JDSupra
[01:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights
[01:38] techrights-news #Patent extremists still hellbent on destroying or scuttling #PTAB , just because it has been eliminating loads of #fakepatents https://www.patentprogress.org/2021/10/25/arthrex-mobility-workx-and-director-review-at-institution/ #uspto
[01:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentprogress.org | Arthrex, Mobility Workx, and Director Review at Institution - Patent Progress
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[01:40] techrights-news #PatentlyO markets itself as scholarly, but it is actually funded by the #patent #litigation Mafia for #propaganda purposes.
[01:42] techrights-news #MarksClerk , a convicted #corrupt 'law' firm that lobbies for #softwarepatents in #Europe , reacting to the sane decision that bots or algorithms aren't "inventors" https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1115234/part-2-ain39t-an-inventor-uk-court-of-appeal-refuses-thaler-appeal-for-dabus-patent
[01:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Part 2: AIn't An Inventor: UK Court Of Appeal Refuses Thaler Appeal For DABUS Patent - Intellectual Property - UK
[01:44] techrights-news Totally insane post, insinuating that UPC (which is dead; the UK cannot ratify) is already a reality and then uses loaded question based on this false assumption https://loupedin.blog/2021/10/who-controls-your-opt-out see http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ #unifiedpatentcourt #unitarypatent
[01:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loupedin.blog | Who controls your opt-out? - LoupedIn
[01:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights
[01:46] techrights-news It should not be called FRAND at all https://www.managingip.com/article/b1v58h5lsd2x2n/china-may-decide-global-frand-terms-reasonably-say-sources see http://techrights.org/2020/07/10/frand-sep-scam/
[01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | China may decide global FRAND terms reasonably, say sources | Managing Intellectual Property
[01:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European FRAND (Related to SEP) Proponent and Famed Programmer Comes to Realise That Its Actually a Scam | Techrights
[01:48] techrights-news Many of these are #SoftwarePatents for sure, but they like to use #buzzwords like #fintech https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bank-america-sets-company-record-130000957.html #swpats
[01:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Bank of America Sets Company Record for Patents Granted During First Half of 2021
[01:50] techrights-news The #criminals who took over the #EPO and crushed #patent quality by breaking all the rules are trying to redefine quality now https://www.epo.org/news-events/news/2021/20211025.html see http://techrights.org/2017/10/17/detrimental-effect-on-european-patents/
[01:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Towards a common understanding of quality
[01:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUEPO Representatives Like Elizabeth Hardon Vindicated as Battistellis Detrimental Effect on Patent Quality is Widely Confirmed | Techrights
[01:52] techrights-news #EPO panels "led by two European patent attorneys nominated as "assessors" by the EPO, #epi and #BusinessEurope " (i.e. #litigation fanatics and front groups of monopolies, not scientists)
[01:53] techrights-news "Feedback regarding the awful refusal to acknowledge #patent quality crisis at the #EPO as well as the appointment of a President so close to Battistelli (who most likely assures continuation of his policies)" http://techrights.org/2017/10/17/detrimental-effect-on-european-patents/
[01:54] techrights-news #epi added a #fraud from #croatia (very recently) after he had cheated #eqe with help from other criminals in charge of #epo http://techrights.org/2021/10/23/doyen-as-ip-religion/
[01:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXI: The Balkan League The Doyen and His Protge | Techrights
[01:55] techrights-news #epo basically became mafia disguised as #patent office, with endless PR budget to weaponise the media and gaslight the public
[01:57] techrights-news They mean list of #patents , not "intellectual property portfolio" https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ascension-provides-positive-intellectual-property-110000723.html
[01:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.finance.yahoo.com | Ascension provides a positive update on its intellectual property portfolio
[01:58] techrights-news One wonders if they know that nowadays many European Patents are Invalid Patents (IPs) https://finance.yahoo.com/news/european-patent-grant-strengthens-small-115000199.html http://techrights.org/2017/10/17/detrimental-effect-on-european-patents/
[01:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | European Patent Grant Strengthens Small Pharmas Ketamine-Based Patent Portfolio for the Treatment of Depressive Disorders
[01:59] techrights-news All these years the #merkel government was absolutely fine with #epo #corruption as it benefited financially and politically (to look the other way) http://techrights.org/2021/10/02/merkel-epo-legacy/
[01:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Angela Merkels Coalition Has Not Helped EPO Staff and Not Even Bloggers Blackmailed by EPO Management | Techrights
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[02:01] techrights-news "Let me assure you that the community has NOT settled on the original spec. It's why I got burned out (and Solderpunk before me)." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007424.html
[02:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[02:05] techrights-news #Facebook knew it was being used to incite violence in #Ethiopia . It did little to stop the spread, documents show - CNN https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/25/business/ethiopia-violence-facebook-papers-cmd-intl/index.html
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[02:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Facebook knew it was being used to incite violence in Ethiopia. It did little to stop the spread, documents show - CNN
[02:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/26/some-users-on-reddit-report-that-windows-11-loses-internet-connectivity-when-trying-to-connect-to-nordvpn/
[02:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Some users on Reddit report that Windows 11 loses Internet connectivity when trying to connect to NordVPN. BaronHK's Rants
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[02:07] techrights-news Failure to troll the #Taiwanese #patent system with this delusion that algorithms are somehow "inventors" deserving and worthy of #monopolies https://www.leetsai.com/patent/artificial-intelligence-shall-not-be-patent-inventors-taiwan #taiwan #tw
[02:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.leetsai.com | Artificial Intelligence Shall Not Be Patent Inventors (Taiwan) - Lee, Tsai & Partners
[02:08] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #vista11 is truly acting like manifestation of the #nsa https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/26/some-users-on-reddit-report-that-windows-11-loses-internet-connectivity-when-trying-to-connect-to-nordvpn/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[02:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
[02:11] DaemonFC Spotted a typo.
[02:11] DaemonFC Fixed.
[02:11] techrights-news In an age/place where being reasonable or moderate means making excuses for criminals I'd ratther be 'unreasonable' and nonconformist.
[02:19] techrights-news Links 26/10/2021: #LatteDock 0.10.3 and Linux 5.15 RC7 http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/linux-5-15-rc7/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/25/linux-5-15-rc7/
[02:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/10/2021: Latte Dock 0.10.3 and Linux 5.15 RC7 | Techrights
[02:20] techrights-news #RaspberryPi and Arduino Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157193 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi and Arduino Leftovers | Tux Machines
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[02:22] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157194 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[02:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[02:25] techrights-news #US #nationalDebt soared another one trillion this past year. US billionaires alone (just billionaires) grew over a trillion dollar richer in the same period of time. Are they really "successful" or do they derive their wealth from a vacuum/at the public's expense? Like military contracts/budget (over a trillion per year). https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
[02:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 2021 Data | 2022 Forecast | 1942-2020 Historical
[02:26] techrights-news #microsoft has received at least 3 bailouts since the #pandemic started last year. Both #trump and #biden print money for this aggressive, criminal cult. Because they help the US oppress and spy on the world...
[02:28] schestowitz https://i.imgflip.com/40s0ig.jpg
[02:28] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgflip.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://i.imgflip.com/40s0ig.jpg
[02:37] techrights-news techpol + social irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-251021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-251021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-251021.txt
[02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 25, 2021
[02:38] techrights-news techrights irc Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-251021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-251021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-251021.txt
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[02:39] techrights-news boycottnovell irc Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-251021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-251021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-251021.txt
[02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 25, 2021
[02:40] techrights-news techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-251021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-251021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-251021.txt
[02:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 25, 2021
[02:42] techrights-news Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-10-25.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2021-10-25.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:43] techrights-news [Meme] [Teaser] Meet the President http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/romania-meet-the-president/ #epo #romania #patents #meme #corruption
[02:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] [Teaser] Meet the President | Techrights
[02:45] techrights-news techrights-news techbytes irc Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-251021.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-251021.txt GEMINI: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-251021.txt
[02:46] schestowitz "meanwhile i am wiping everything which depends on qt" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-251021.html#tOct%2025%2019:36:49
[02:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 25, 2021
[02:48] techrights-news "More Windows 11 bugs that werent even in Windows 10, which was already bad enough by itself." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/26/some-users-on-reddit-report-that-windows-11-loses-internet-connectivity-when-trying-to-connect-to-nordvpn/ see http://techrights.org/2021/10/19/vista-11-hoax/
[02:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Proof That Windows 11 is a Hoax | Techrights
[02:49] techrights-news #GNOME #Gingerblue 2.0.1 is Free Recording Software for GNOME. https://blogs.gnome.org/oleaamot/2021/10/26/gnome-gingerblue-2-0-1-recording-software-supports-xspf-1-0/ #gnu #freesw
[02:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | GNOME Gingerblue 2.0.1 Recording Software supports XSPF 1.0 Ole Aamot
[02:50] techrights-news Later today we shall see what #Romania did for #Battistelli http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/romania-meet-the-president/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/25/romania-meet-the-president/
[02:53] techrights-news "Trumps people dont seem to understand #freesw licences" https://latenightlinux.com/late-night-linux-episode-148/
[02:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-latenightlinux.com | Late Night Linux Episode 148 Late Night Linux
[02:54] techrights-news Whitney Webb on #JamesDelingpoleChannel https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/webb:b
[02:54] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: odysee.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/webb:b
[02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Whitney Webb
[02:56] techrights-news Dictatorships don't always come with tanks. Dictatorships, nowadays, can come with #internet connections and #police ready to raid people's home (based on online activity). Don't lose sight of the changing /forms/ of dictatorship. Digitatorship?
[02:57] techrights-news #technology made for revolutionary and social (as in serving society) movements will never come from #gafam so we need to make alternatives and #freesw is prerequisite
[02:58] DaemonFC https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/25/apple-antitrust-lawsuit-likely/
[02:58] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: macrumors.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/25/apple-antitrust-lawsuit-likely/
[02:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Department of Justice Likely to File Antitrust Lawsuit Against Apple - MacRumors
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[03:03] techrights-news #socialcontrolmedia such as #facebook and #twitter will liberate you from abusive #corporateMedia to the same extent #tesla will 'replace' the automobile industry. Different flavours of the same stickin' garbage.
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[03:22] techrights-news [Meme] #AntnioCampinos Visits the #OSIM http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/osim-antonio-campinos/ #epo #corruption #romania
[03:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Antnio Campinos Visits the OSIM | Techrights
[03:26] techrights-news [Meme] #SocialDemocracy at the #EPO http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/epo-social-democracy-meme/ #europe #corruption #northMacedonia
[03:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Social Democracy at the EPO | Techrights
[03:29] techrights-news "Agreed that the Gemini spec seems feature-complete for now. There was a time when I would've liked to see features like compression and tables, but the spec doesn't prevent anyone from serving up an alternate mimetype like text/gemini+gzip or csv." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007426.html
[03:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[03:30] techrights-news "Adding features is typically misguided: it's better to *complement* Gemini with other protocols suited for other purposes than to *extend* it. One such protocol is the spartan:// client-to-server protocol." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007425.html
[03:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[03:32] techrights-news 12 more days for #techrights to turn 15. http://techrights.org/2021/10/21/gemini-space-not-a-niche-anymore/
[03:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gemini Protocol and Gemini Space Are Not a Niche; for Techrights, Gemini Means Half a Million Page Requests a Month | Techrights
[03:33] techrights-news Arduino device trains #BMW drivers to use turn signals | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/26/arduino-device-trains-bmw-drivers-to-use-turn-signals/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking
[03:33] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: arduino.cc | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/10/26/arduino-device-trains-bmw-drivers-to-use-turn-signals/
[03:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino device trains BMW drivers to use turn signals | Arduino Blog
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[03:38] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 20.50 swarm size (avg): 259.78
[03:39] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 31 GB TotalOut: 10 GB
[03:40] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:47] schestowitz-TR2 I've made recovery for the ipfs bot better or more frequent. I think it hangs up on IRC quite so often due to the traffic shaping.
[03:47] techrights-ipfs-bot QmR26bCkmAgeJHsLEpDDduxsZtvTiPxLdppYuH4w8mzfdo
[03:47] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
[03:48] Techrights-sec Was this : http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-251021.html#tOct%2025%2012:08:22
[03:48] Techrights-sec anything relevant here?
[03:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, October 25, 2021
[03:49] schestowitz-TR2 not anymore because we got all the info we need
[03:50] Techrights-sec Ok, but I saw no login attempts. There's just the server password, which you
[03:50] Techrights-sec have, and then double-click on any channel not root. Some may have to
[03:50] Techrights-sec click on their own unmute button, too.
[03:51] schestowitz-TR2 yes, there are alternatives. voice did work but was not needed at the end.
[03:52] techrights-news [Old] #Multimedia ISO Compromise https://multimedia.cx/eggs/iso-compromise/
[03:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-multimedia.cx | ISO Compromise | Breaking Eggs And Making Omelettes
[03:53] techrights-news NEWS #Multimedia # ISO-9660 Compromise, Part 2: Finding Root https://multimedia.cx/eggs/iso-9660-compromise-part-2-finding-root/
[03:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-multimedia.cx | ISO-9660 Compromise, Part 2: Finding Root | Breaking Eggs And Making Omelettes
[03:53] techrights-news NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Standards Re-thinking electronic mail https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/10/22/einar-rapper-killed-stockholm/
[03:53] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: digitalmusicnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/10/22/einar-rapper-killed-stockholm/
[03:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/10/22/einar-rapper-killed-stockholm/ )
[03:53] techrights-news NEWS #NPR #Education 50 years ago, The Electric Company used comedy to boost kids' reading skills https://text.npr.org/1048365940
[03:53] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: npr.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1048365940
[03:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | 50 years ago, 'The Electric Company' used comedy to boost kids' reading skills
[03:55] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #NewYorkTimes #ProprietarySoftware #Russia Challenges #Biden Again With Broad Cybersurveillance Operation https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/us/politics/russia-cybersurveillance-biden.html
[03:55] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/us/politics/russia-cybersurveillance-biden.html
[03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Ignoring Sanctions, Russia Renews Broad Cybersurveillance Operation - The New York Times
[03:55] techrights-news NEWS #EveningStandardUK #ProprietarySoftware Cyber attacks have doubled in past year, GCHQ director warns https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/gchq-china-dominic-raab-russia-europe-b962396.html
[03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standard.co.uk | Ransomware attacks in the UK have doubled in a year | Evening Standard
[03:55] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows TCO: #EestiRahvusringhling #ProprietarySoftware RIA: September's 190 cyber attacks highest monthly total this year so far https://news.err.ee/1608381647/ria-september-s-190-cyber-attacks-highest-monthly-total-this-year-so-far
[03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.err.ee | RIA: September's 190 cyber attacks highest monthly total this year so far | News | ERR
[03:55] techrights-news Microsoft #Windows TCO: #ITWire #ProprietarySoftware #Microsoft claims #SolarWinds attackers targeting clown providers, MSPs https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-claims-solarwinds-attackers-targeting-cloud-providers,-msps.html
[03:55] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/security/microsoft-claims-solarwinds-attackers-targeting-cloud-providers,-msps.html
[03:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Microsoft claims SolarWinds attackers targeting cloud providers, MSPs
[03:57] techrights-news #microsoft warning about #security issues while putting back doors in all its stuff. Not sure whether to laugh or scoff.
[03:58] Techrights-sec So it looks like there was some mix up in where they tried to connect to.
[03:58] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook reports $9 billion profit on day documents highlight internal anger https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-reports-9-billion-profit-day-documents-highlight-internal-ang-rcna3757
[03:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Facebook reports $9 billion profit on day documents highlight internal anger
[03:59] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook whistleblower 'shocked' at focus on metaverse https://thehill.com/policy/technology/578346-facebook-whistleblower-shocked-at-focus-on-metaverse
[03:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook whistleblower 'shocked' at focus on metaverse | TheHill
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[04:00] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Privacy #Surveillance Facebook #whistleblower 'shocked' by companys investment in #metaverse https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/facebook-whistleblower-shocked-companys-investment-metaverse-rcna3725
[04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Facebook whistleblower 'shocked' by companys investment in metaverse
[04:00] techrights-news NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook Pledges $10 Billion to Metaverse Project, As Mark Zuckerberg Signals New Focus https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/facebook-q3-2021-earnings-1235036477/ "plans to significantly change how it reports earnings"
[04:00] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: hollywoodreporter.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/facebook-q3-2021-earnings-1235036477/
[04:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Facebook Q3 2021 Earnings The Hollywood Reporter
[04:01] techrights-news NEWS #ITWire #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook acknowledges #Apple privacy changes have hit its revenue https://itwire.com/your-it/apps/facebook-acknowledges-apple-privacy-changes-have-hit-its-revenue.html "uncertain outlook it faces in the fourth quarter"
[04:01] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/your-it/apps/facebook-acknowledges-apple-privacy-changes-have-hit-its-revenue.html
[04:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Facebook acknowledges Apple privacy changes have hit its revenue
[04:01] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook ad revenue seen feeling brunt of Apple privacy changes https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/facebook-ad-revenue-seen-feeling-brunt-of-apple-privacy-changes/87256671 "prevent advertisers from tracking iPhone users without their consent"
[04:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | facebook inc: Facebook ad revenue seen feeling brunt of Apple privacy changes, IT News, ET CIO
[04:01] techrights-news NEWS #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance The #EU Parliament Took a Stance Against HEY HI Mass Surveillance: What are the Global Implications? https://edri.org/our-work/the-eu-parliament-took-a-stance-against-ai-mass-surveillance-what-are-the-global-implications/ "ban the use of facial recognition in public spaces"
[04:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | The EU Parliament Took a Stance Against AI Mass Surveillance: What are the Global Implications? - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[04:02] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Privacy #Surveillance I Was [Cracked]. The Spyware Used Against Me Makes Us All Vulnerable. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/24/insider/hacking-nso-surveillance.html "I often speak to people who take great risks to share information"
[04:02] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/24/insider/hacking-nso-surveillance.html
[04:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | I Was Hacked. The Spyware Used Against Me Makes Us All Vulnerable. - The New York Times
[04:02] techrights-news NEWS #EDRI #Privacy #Surveillance #noyb publishes the draft decision by the #DPC in the case against Facebook https://edri.org/our-work/noyb-publishes-the-draft-decision-by-the-dpc-in-the-case-against-facebook/
[04:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | noyb publishes the draft decision by the DPC in the case against Facebook - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[04:04] techrights-news #surveilance ware does not help crack down on/end crime. In some nations, the government is the crime and those spied on are people looking to expose criminals.
[04:04] techrights-news NEWS #Zimbabwe #Privacy #Surveillance #Facebook sues [programmer] who scraped the data of 178 million users https://www.techzim.co.zw/2021/10/facebook-sues-hacker-who-scraped-the-data-of-178-million-user/
[04:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | Facebook sues hacker who scraped the data of 178 million users - Techzim
[04:05] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Monday, October 25, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives
[04:05] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index
[04:06] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance #FB sues programmer who allegedly scraped data for 178 mn users https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/fb-sues-programmer-who-allegedly-scraped-data-for-178-mn-users/87248288 "supposedly conducted the campaign between January 2018 and September 2019"
[04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | FB sues programmer who allegedly scraped data for 178 mn users, IT News, ET CIO
[04:06] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Privacy #Surveillance ' #Facebook Papers' turn up heat on embattled #socialcontrolmedia platform https://thehill.com/policy/technology/578375-facebook-papers-turn-up-heat-on-embattled-social-media-platform #espionage operation in "social" clothing
[04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Facebook Papers' turn up heat on embattled social media platform | TheHill
[04:08] techrights-news Some comments on the current situation at the European Patent Office from #GoranGerasimovski , the new #EPO Administrative Council delegate for #NorthMacedonia and Social Democratic candidate for mayor of #Centar (a municipality of #Skopje ) http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/epo-social-democracy-meme/
[04:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Social Democracy at the EPO | Techrights
[04:09] techrights-news Antnio Campinos visits OSIM Director-General Ionel Muscalu in February 2014 http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/osim-antonio-campinos/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/25/osim-antonio-campinos/
[04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Antnio Campinos Visits the OSIM | Techrights
[04:16] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, ZeroHedge article on Kape buying up VPNs.
[04:16] DaemonFC https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-10-16/malware-distributor-building-vpn-empire
[04:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The VPN Empire Built By Intelligence Agents | ZeroHedge
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[06:05] GNUmoon2 "FB sues programmer who allegedly scraped data for 178 mn users, IT News, ET CIO" it should be "Users sue FB for scraping users." :)
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[07:01] leah schestowitz-TR2: what happened to the homepage?
[07:01] leah it looks like someone vandalized it
[07:02] leah no offense, but i think it needs to be better organized, to show all the latest articles and news
[07:04] pinetime http://techrights.org/index/ is missing
[07:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Welcome to Techrights
[07:12] leah i can't put my finger on what it needs. but
[07:12] leah lemme find a video for you
[07:12] leah well, here's a website instead
[07:13] leah https://theuserisdrunk.com/
[07:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theuserisdrunk.com | The User is Drunk
[07:14] leah pretend your users are drunk
[07:14] leah it needs to be accessible to those people
[07:15] pinetime 500kb.club
[07:15] pinetime https://250kb.club/
[07:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-250kb.club | The 250kb Club
[07:18] leah hey, nice
[07:19] leah im a member of the 53.83kb club
[07:19] pinetime what's the point of theuserisdrunk.com? When you got drunk enough you'll have a hard time reading small text
[07:20] pinetime 53.83k? Just text or some small images?
[07:22] leah wait a minute, i'm confused
[07:22] leah do they talk about the entire website, added up
[07:22] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.00 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.06 swarm size (avg): 259.81
[07:22] leah or do they talk about homepage size
[07:23] leah or average page size
[07:23] pinetime pretty sure no modern website (html + css + js + image) can't survive 250kb limit
[07:24] leah i think it probably is talking about max page size
[07:24] leah i think i comply with 256kb
[07:25] leah probably half
[07:25] pinetime my site's top page is... (measuring)
[07:25] pinetime 95.77 KB / 65.71 KB transferred
[07:25] leah how do you measure?
[07:25] leah tell me. i will measure mine
[07:25] pinetime html + css + js + image
[07:25] pinetime u have firefox?
[07:26] leah yeah
[07:26] pinetime ok
[07:26] pinetime in new tab open developer tools and click Network tab
[07:26] pinetime clear everything by pressing trashbin and open your site
[07:27] leah i see
[07:28] leah my homepage is 8kb including images
[07:28] pinetime wow
[07:28] leah i actually optimized this
[07:28] leah well, 8.5kb
[07:28] leah libreboot.org homepage
[07:28] pinetime guess I should start optimizing my js and css more
[07:28] leah i don't have js
[07:28] leah and my css is like 300 bytes uncompressed
[07:28] leah the logo displayed on the homepage is also the favicon
[07:29] pinetime (oh you have video)
[07:29] leah and is actually a png, but its named favicon.ico. browsers are clever enough
[07:29] leah yeah but the video isn't auto-loaded
[07:29] leah the FAQ is 75kb
[07:29] leah install tutorials are definitely going to violate the 256kb rule
[07:30] leah but those pages don't exceed 1mb
[07:30] pinetime This is surely an example of nice site following 'keep it simple' rule.
[07:31] leah i checked installation guides. some have lots images
[07:31] leah https://libreboot.org/docs/install/t400_external.html
[07:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libreboot.org | Libreboot Flashing the ThinkPad T400 externally
[07:32] leah i eyeballed the stats for that one, using the tool you recommended
[07:32] leah it's about 800kb i think
[07:32] pinetime t400_external page: 2.04 MB / 2.05 MB transferred and still loading
[07:32] leah 5kb of it is text
[07:33] leah how do you make it show the total
[07:33] leah i'm adding up the stats in my head
[07:34] pinetime my suggestion: 1. have you tried WEBP instad of jpg 2. enable brotli for your ngx.
[07:34] leah i'll add these to todo
[07:35] leah schestowitz-TR2: sorry for spamming btw. website optimization is a passion of mine, and i easily get carried away talking about it
[07:36] pinetime > how do you make it show the total | firefox's Network tab.
[07:37] pinetime https://github.com/flozz/yoga-image-optimizer
[07:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - flozz/yoga-image-optimizer: A graphical tool to convert and optimize JPEG, PNG and WebP images (based on YOGA)
[07:38] leah ok i was wrong about the homepage. the images and video make it more like 500kb
[07:39] leah thanks. i never know what to do with images. i just open in gimp and save as jpg, and set quality to like 60
[07:39] pinetime for image: (smaller) webp < jpg(GoogleAlgo) < jpg schestowitz-TR2: what happened to the homepage?
[08:44] schestowitz it looks OK at the moment
[08:45] techrights-news The #VPN Empire Built By Intelligence Agents https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-10-16/malware-distributor-building-vpn-empire
[08:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The VPN Empire Built By Intelligence Agents | ZeroHedge
[08:46] techrights-news NEWS #TheCinemaholic How Did #AdrianLamo Die? https://thecinemaholic.com/how-did-adrian-lamo-die/ "To date, the authorities have not been able to figure out the mystery behind Adrian Lamos death"
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[08:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecinemaholic.com | Adrian Lamo's Death: How Did the Hacker Die? Wikileaks Update
[08:52] techrights-news NEWS #NewYorkTimes #Politics #Facebook Wrestles With the Features It Used to Define Social Networking https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/technology/facebook-like-share-buttons.html
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[08:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Facebook Debates What to Do With Its Like and Share Buttons - The New York Times
[08:53] techrights-news NEWS #TheSundayTimesUK #Politics MPs worry about civil service leaks as ex-staff join #Facebook https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mps-worry-over-civil-service-leaks-to-facebook-lfrnh9s7z
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[08:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thetimes.co.uk | MPs worry about civil service leaks as ex-staff join Facebook | News | The Times
[08:54] techrights-news #IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 25, 2021 http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/irc-log-251021/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/26/irc-log-251021/
[08:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Monday, October 25, 2021 | Techrights
[08:55] techrights-news Richard Stallman: "Covid is increasing in the UK despite most people's being vaccinated. UK unions and medical officials call for strict enforcement of mask requirements and distancing, to protect their workers." The vaccines do not curtail the spread.
[08:56] techrights-news NEWS #SeattleTimes #Politics Inside the Big #Facebook Leak https://www.seattletimes.com/business/inside-the-big-facebook-leak/
[08:56] techrights-news NEWS #WFMZtv #Politics Legislation would allow Pennsylvanians to sue big tech companies for #censorship https://www.wfmz.com/news/state/legislation-would-allow-pennsylvanians-to-sue-big-tech-companies-for-censorship/article_ca04fbbe-9eb5-58c2-994b-696f0f390253.html don't say "big tech" http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/
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[08:59] techrights-news NEWS #KrebsOnSecurity #Conti Ransom Gang Starts Selling Access to Victims https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/10/conti-ransom-gang-starts-selling-access-to-victims/ http://techrights.org/2021/05/02/ransomware-task-force/
[08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krebsonsecurity.com | Conti Ransom Gang Starts Selling Access to Victims Krebs on Security
[08:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft-Centric Ransomware Task Force | Techrights
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[09:00] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt Trump's Broken #SocialControlMedia Venture Is Valued At Billions Of Dollars And It's Breaking Experts' Brains https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211022/22315647800/trumps-broken-social-media-venture-is-valued-billions-dollars-breaking-experts-brains.shtml
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[09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump's Broken Social Media Venture Is Valued At Billions Of Dollars And Its Breaking Experts' Brains | Techdirt
[09:01] techrights-news NEWS #TheHill #Disinformation #Misinformation TikTok, Snapchat executives to make Capitol Hill debuts https://thehill.com/policy/technology/578356-tiktok-snapchat-executives-to-make-capitol-hill-debuts
[09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok, Snapchat executives to make Capitol Hill debuts | TheHill
[09:01] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Disinformation #Misinformation #Facebook says its refocusing company on serving young adults https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/25/22745622/facebook-young-adults-refocusing-teams "young adults"? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
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[09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Facebook says its refocusing company on serving young adults - The Verge
[09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
[09:02] techrights-news Today #techrights will focus onn #romania
[09:11] techrights-news NEWS #NetBlocks #Censorship #Internet disrupted in #Sudan amid reports of coup attempt https://netblocks.org/reports/internet-disrupted-in-sudan-amid-reports-of-coup-attempt-Q8ov93yn
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[09:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netblocks.org | Internet disrupted in Sudan amid reports of coup attempt - NetBlocks
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[09:11] techrights-news NEWS #NetBlocks #Censorship #Internet disrupted in #Sudan amid reports of coup attempt https://netblocks.org/reports/internet-disrupted-in-sudan-amid-reports-of-coup-attempt-Q8ov93yn
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[09:14] psydruid https://garyjanosz.medium.com/how-a-little-junior-high-threatened-the-profits-of-a-national-portrait-chain-4e179d76cf75
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[09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-garyjanosz.medium.com | How a Little Junior High Stole the Profits from a National Portrait Chain | by Gary Janosz | Medium
[09:14] techrights-news NEWS #NDTV #PressFreedom US To Begin #UK Appeal Against #Extradition Of Wikileaks Founder Julian #Assange https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/julian-assange-us-to-begin-uk-appeal-against-extradition-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-2586890
[09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ndtv.com | Julian Assange: US To Begin UK Appeal Against Extradition Of Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange
[09:16] psydruid https://www.newsreview.com/chico/content/abuse-of-authority/291904/
[09:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsreview.com | CN&R Abuse of authority
[09:16] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: gm
[09:16] schestowitz-TR2 the first link, I'm still reading it
[09:16] schestowitz-TR2 takes a while getting to the meat of it
[09:16] psydruid I wonder how much of this lobbying is still happening
[09:16] psydruid yes, sure
[09:17] *schestowitz-TR2 looks at the second one
[09:18] techrights-news Unless you have an infinite amount of bandwidth to spare, #ipfs scales poorly as your data grows. They really need to fix this design issue.
[09:19] techrights-news NEWS #TheCinemaholic #PressFreedom Where is Julian #Assange Now? https://thecinemaholic.com/where-is-julian-assange-now/
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[09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecinemaholic.com | Julian Assange Now: Where is He Today? Is He Still in Jail? Update
[09:19] psydruid I got to it through a comment by Gary on a blogpost by Alan Digg (who is that again?) about GNOME, which I didn't find that interesting
[09:20] techrights-news NEWS #Gannett #PressFreedom #UK protest against extradition of #Assange to US https://eu.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2021/10/23/uk-protest-against-extradition-assange-us/6154388001/
[09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | UK protest against extradition of Assange to US
[09:20] techrights-news NEWS #London #PressFreedom New questions on #Assange and the #CIA http://islingtontribune.com/article/new-questions-on-assange-and-the-cia
[09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-islingtontribune.com | New questions on Assange and the CIA | Islington Tribune
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[09:21] techrights-news NEWS #EveningStandardUK #PressFreedom Successful US #Assange extradition appeal unthinkable says #WikiLeaks editor https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/assange-wikileaks-joe-biden-london-attorney-general-b962353.html
[09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.standard.co.uk | Successful US Assange extradition appeal unthinkable says WikiLeaks editor | Evening Standard
[09:21] techrights-news NEWS #RFA #PressFreedom #China drops #Caixin from list of news sources pre-approved to syndicate content https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/media-caixin-10212021140717.html
[09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rfa.org | China drops Caixin from list of news sources pre-approved to syndicate content Radio Free Asia
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[09:39] techrights-news NEWS #EDRI #Internet Closing the Loopholes in #EU s #NetNeutrality Framework https://edri.org/our-work/closing-the-loopholes-in-eus-net-neutrality-framework/
[09:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | Closing the Loopholes in EU's Net Neutrality Framework - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[09:40] techrights-news NEWS #EDRI #Copyrights You Shall Not Pass! #Wikimedia Foundation Denied Observer Status At #WIPO https://edri.org/our-work/you-shall-not-pass-wikimedia-foundation-denied-observer-status-at-wipo/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/WIPO
[09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edri.org | You Shall Not Pass! Wikimedia Foundation Denied Observer Status At WIPO - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
[09:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | WIPO - Techrights
[09:40] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights 'Free Download Manager' Removes #YouTube Support After Gulag Complaint https://torrentfreak.com/free-download-manager-removes-youtube-support-after-google-complaint-211025/
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[09:41] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Hollywood & #Netflix Win New High Court Injunction to Block Pirate Streaming Sites https://torrentfreak.com/hollywood-netflix-win-new-high-court-injunction-to-block-pirate-streaming-sites-211025/
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[09:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hollywood & Netflix Win New High Court Injunction to Block Pirate Streaming Sites * TorrentFreak
[09:49] techrights-news NEWS #PIA #Europe #EuropeanParliament Calls for Bans on HEY HI-based Biometric Recognition in Public Spaces, Predictive Policing, and Social Scoring https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/european-parliament-calls-for-bans-on-ai-based-biometric-recognition-in-public-spaces-predictive-policing-and-social-scoring/
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[09:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | European Parliament Calls for Bans on AI-based Biometric Recognition in Public Spaces, Predictive Policing, and Social Scoring
[09:49] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #scotus #police After Taking A Couple Of Steps Towards Trimming Back Qualified Immunity, The Supreme Court Regresses To The Mean https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211022/12375847796/after-taking-couple-steps-towards-trimming-back-qualified-immunity-supreme-court-regresses-to-mean.shtml
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[09:49] activelow https://www.heise.de/news/Schleswig-Holsteins-Digitalminister-Albrecht-ueber-den-Wechsel-zu-Open-Source-6221361.html
[09:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.heise.de | Schleswig-Holsteins Digitalminister Albrecht ber den Wechsel zu Open Source | heise online
[09:50] schestowitz-TR2 there is a layover popup
[09:50] schestowitz-TR2 asking to spy
[09:50] schestowitz-TR2 "Open Source"
[09:50] activelow "plan to replace microsoft with opensource", they have no idea
[09:50] schestowitz-TR2 *overlay
[09:52] techrights-news NEWS #PIA Hacking the World Part 4: The Cost and Future of Hacking (Plus: Safety Tips) https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/hacking-the-world-part-4-the-cost-and-future-of-hacking-plus-safety-tips/
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[09:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Hacking the World Part 4: The Cost and Future of Hacking (Plus: Safety Tips)
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[10:05] activelow Rust is the most popular language targeting WASM: https://www.heise.de/news/State-of-WebAssembly-2021-Beliebteste-Sprache-fuer-Wasm-Anwendungen-ist-Rust-6115317.html
[10:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.heise.de | State of WebAssembly 2021: Beliebteste Sprache fr Wasm-Anwendungen ist Rust | heise online
[10:10] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #nytimes #ksa New Investigation Shows A US Journalist Critical Of The Saudi Government Was Hit With #NSOGroup #Spyware https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211024/17262747814/new-investigation-shows-us-journalist-critical-saudi-government-was-hit-with-nso-spyware.shtml
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[10:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Investigation Shows A US Journalist Critical Of The Saudi Government Was Hit With NSO Spyware | Techdirt
[10:10] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Trump Given 30 Days To Have His Social Media Site Comply With #freesw License https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211023/15545647803/trump-given-30-days-to-have-his-social-media-site-comply-with-open-source-license.shtml
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[10:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump Given 30 Days To Have His Social Media Site Comply With Open Source License | Techdirt
[10:14] psydruid "Open Source" by IBM and Microsoft
[10:14] schestowitz-TR2 Microsoft: we own GitHub
[10:14] schestowitz-TR2 It's proprietary softwarew
[10:14] schestowitz-TR2 but owning it makes us "Open Source'
[10:14] psydruid of course everything had go back into their hands
[10:14] psydruid can't give up control, you know
[10:15] schestowitz-TR2 they relabel
[10:15] psydruid if we go down, everyone and everything will go down with us
[10:17] schestowitz-TR2 that started with Novell
[10:17] schestowitz-TR2 because Vista sucked
[10:17] schestowitz-TR2 and back then SLED looked decent
[10:17] schestowitz-TR2 and was improving fast
[10:17] schestowitz-TR2 Beryl, Compiz etc.
[10:17] schestowitz-TR2 wiping the floor with XP and "Vista"
[10:21] psydruid OpenSUSE has better stability now than it had back then, but there aren't that many packages and it serves more as a base for running proprietary software
[10:22] psydruid So I don't see the point of running it at home
[10:22] activelow the biggest threat may be rust and wasm
[10:23] activelow even if GNU/FSF followed the trend and implemented a rust-frontend for gcc (which they shouldn't imo)
[10:23] psydruid I've never taken Rust seriously and won't until there is an implementation that isn't tied to Microsoft
[10:23] psydruid and even then I don't see a real reason to use it
[10:24] activelow and epiphany browser (gnome) does exactly what GNU/FSF shouldn't, provide a runtime environment for malicious closed source software
[10:24] activelow don't know if/how gnome project is/was related to GNU/FSF
[10:26] activelow anyway, i removed all of it here, ideally i could fully remove c++ and related dependency graph, which isn't feasible currently
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[10:26] webreader TR NEWS is sharing too many CF links
[10:27] webreader If it is not automated have you tried finding other webpage?
[10:28] webreader ^ altlink_a51
[10:28] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Please read IRC | http://about-altlink.go.crimeflare.eu.org
[10:28] psydruid my first encounter with a dependency on Rust was when I compiled librsvg and found out it had moved to Rust
[10:28] psydruid and then there were all these architectures without rustc
[10:28] psydruid and I wondered how anyone could be so irresponsible
[10:29] webreader TR NEWS could tag along with https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/src/branch/master/subfiles/service.altlink.md 's Suggestion for better readability
[10:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.disroot.org | dCF/deCloudflare: The Great Cloudwall / Stop Cloudflare / #deCloudflare #GreatCloudwall #Crimeflare - subfiles/service.altlink.md at master - deCloudflare - Gitea: Git with a cup of tea
[10:29] webreader this pic: https://git.disroot.org/dCF/deCloudflare/media/branch/master/image/altlink_suggest.jpg
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[10:47] techrights-news ##HowTo Install Python 3.10 in Ubuntu and Other Related Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157195 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Python 3.10 in Ubuntu and Other Related Linux | Tux Machines
[10:47] techrights-news #Ferdi: A Free & Open-Source Alternative to Franz & Rambox http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157196 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ferdi: A Free & Open-Source Alternative to Franz & Rambox | Tux Machines
[10:48] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157197 #Linux #TuxMachines
[10:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[10:52] activelow psydruid: gnome-base/librsvg
[10:54] activelow on wikipedia some discussion is cited gnome wasn't any gnu/fsf project
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[10:55] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: it's an awkward relationship
[10:55] schestowitz-TR2 since like 15 years ago
[10:55] schestowitz-TR2 when GNOME was pushing Mono and other crap
[10:57] DaemonFC Google is getting very aggressive with their DMCA abuse in order to force people onto YouTube to view their ads.
[10:57] DaemonFC Eventually, they may just require Widevine to view anything.
[10:58] DaemonFC I'm surprised that they don't already.
[10:58] activelow would be curious, if youtube deploys some wasm stuff... cannot/do not want to debug this, anyway, my webkit2/badwolf browser doesn't at least render the site
[10:58] schestowitz-TR2 wait, you mean the sites outside youtube?
[10:59] schestowitz-TR2 when you say DMCA?
[10:59] schestowitz-TR2 [09:40] NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights 'Free Download Manager' Removes #YouTube Support After Gulag Complaint https://torrentfreak.com/free-download-manager-removes-youtube-support-after-google-complaint-211025/
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[10:59] DaemonFC Apple doesn't have Widevine in Safari, but they do have "FairPlay".
[10:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-'Free Download Manager' Removes YouTube Support After Google Complaint * TorrentFreak
[10:59] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: GAFAM is the same interests
[10:59] DaemonFC I'm concerned that eventually Widevine will be required to watch most video on the Web.
[10:59] schestowitz-TR2 no need to do "whataboutism"
[10:59] schestowitz-TR2 "but Apple... but Google"
[10:59] DaemonFC We're quickly losing whatever control of the Web we had left.
● Oct 26
[11:00] schestowitz-TR2 came crap, same guardians
[11:00] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: exactly
[11:00] schestowitz-TR2 that's why we need things such as gemini to grow
[11:00] schestowitz-TR2 and for people to flock there
[11:00] schestowitz-TR2 outside the reach of Zuckbergs and Gulags
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: the founder of gemini is back
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 he was burned out due to people asking him to "add" things to gemini
[11:01] activelow netsurf browser is more important than i thought
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 like bold, tables etc.
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 i.e. reinventing html
[11:01] activelow and webkit2 requires a patch to remove wasm
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: it is
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 many sites work ok with netsurf
[11:01] schestowitz-TR2 so there can be like a "whitezone" for the www
[11:02] schestowitz-TR2 sites that meet some criteria
[11:02] DaemonFC HTML became a mess after version 3.2.
[11:02] schestowitz-TR2 even timbl complains about the web
[11:02] schestowitz-TR2 his solution to it is a joke
[11:02] DaemonFC It was already pretty bad at HTML 4.
[11:02] schestowitz-TR2 pile of JS, which he put in Microsoft's github
[11:03] DaemonFC Given a choice, most people choose expedience over long term viability.
[11:03] activelow i wouldn't recommend webkit2, it doesn't require any benefit over netsurf, and disabling wasm requires patching/recompilation
[11:03] DaemonFC Computing can't continue in the direction in which Microsoft, Apple, and Google are taking it unless, in a few years, you want no control over your computer at all, finally.
[11:04] activelow with mozilla i wouldn't know if wasm can be fully removed, probably not, and changing some about:config doesn't raise my confidence
[11:04] DaemonFC But until then, enjoy "rounded corners" and rich Corinthian leather.
[11:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, The DoJ looking to enforce the Sherman Act on Apple is good news. It won't solve the larger problem though.
[11:05] activelow seamonkey-config.patch:+pref("javascript.options.wasm", false);
[11:05] activelow seamonkey-config.patch:+pref("javascript.options.wasm_baselinejit", false);
[11:05] DaemonFC There's a very real danger of it turning into another US v. Microsoft, where technically Microsoft lost, but they didn't lose much.
[11:05] activelow this didn't break youtube, nonetheless, i don't trust this
[11:05] DaemonFC Just a fine and kept on doing the worst stuff anyway.
[11:06] activelow instead, this old mozilla regularly was blocked by javascript deadlocks, maybe some trackers and ads injecting wasm and waiting for some response
[11:06] DaemonFC On MacRumors, people are saying "success isn't illegal". They're right. It's not. It's how you get successful and stay there that might be illegal.
[11:07] DaemonFC Doing dirty things and taking shortcuts and locking out your competitors once you reach a certain size can be illegal.
[11:07] DaemonFC Apple is not successful in the App Store because it competes on service or price or convenience or reliability.
[11:08] DaemonFC It's successful becasue they convinced a lot of people to buy their product then used that installed base to force developers to take their "deal", onerous app publishing terms and 30% of their profits, or there's the door and don't hit your ass on the way out.
[11:08] DaemonFC And that's very illegal, but Obama and Trump had no intention of prosecuting it.
[11:08] activelow well, yes, wasm is probably the basis for the entire "app" business to inject malicious software
[11:09] activelow i am not aware of any survey, which blocked all wasm (reliably) and verified which "apps" continued working (discord? youtube? teams? google earth?)
[11:10] DaemonFC There's people who just don't get what US antitrust laws mean, like that guy who "for reasons" tried suing the FSF claiming he singlehandedly wanted to create his own OS to compete with "Linux" and couldn't. Apparently, some guy in the Indianapolis suburbs with a McMansion and a Chevy Impala and an amateur radio license was going to re-create $23 billion dollars worth of software.
[11:10] DaemonFC Who knew?
[11:11] DaemonFC And he took it to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals and got slapped down again. Because he felt very strongly he would redo $23 billion dollars worth of software in his garage?
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[11:12] DaemonFC I contacted him a while back because I just wanted to know why he did it. I said it didn't seem feasible that he was going to rewrite an entire OS himself and I was wondering if the whole lawsuit was some kind of a farce in order to get case law that Free Software was beneficial to the "consumer".
[11:13] DaemonFC And he became very evasive about it.
[11:13] DaemonFC You can write a small UNIX-like OS with very few resources. Some guy in Chicago did it in Rust, complete with a GUI.
[11:14] DaemonFC The big problem comes when you need many thousands of hardware drivers and to port all of this software to it.
[11:14] activelow and rust/cargo often wrap existing c-libs into crates
[11:14] DaemonFC Without software, the computer hums and burns electricity. Without hardware drivers, you may be able to get it to run on a VM if you implement JUST what it needs to do that.
[11:14] DaemonFC But that's not useful.
[11:15] DaemonFC So you could argue that Redox OS isn't an OS at all.
[11:15] DaemonFC Because it can't operate hardware, and there are no software ports to speak of.
[11:16] DaemonFC That guy says he's pulling in about $15,000 a year now to go towards developing it as a hobby.
[11:16] DaemonFC It's a waste.
[11:16] DaemonFC Nobody is ever going to be able to use it in production.
[11:17] DaemonFC Even ReactOS isn't totally pointless. A lot of the code or findings about Windows end up in Wine.
[11:17] DaemonFC Redox has less of a point than ReactOS.
[11:17] DaemonFC He designed it to have a microkernel. Minix has a microkernel.
[11:18] DaemonFC He said he wants to prove you can do a highly reliable kernel that you can audit.
[11:18] DaemonFC Minix has that.
[11:18] DaemonFC Minix has all of that and was written in C. Minix ended up on spacecraft that went to Mars.
[11:19] DaemonFC You can't go to Mars and flip a switch and get the thing restarted if something goes terribly wrong.
[11:19] DaemonFC Linux isn't reliable enough to deal with situations like these. But those are corner cases.
[11:20] DaemonFC In these cases, you need all the reliability you can get even if performance sucks.
[11:20] DaemonFC And you don't need huge compatibility with applications, because you design the few that the system runs and that's all it runs.
[11:21] DaemonFC Torvalds says it would be sad if Linux didn't become obsolete.
[11:21] DaemonFC There was a Sci-Fi show that was like 200 years in the future or something, and the ship was booting up a Linux kernel.
[11:21] DaemonFC It wouldn't surprise me.
[11:22] DaemonFC You don't just throw out this kind of thing and start all over. The idea of Rust in the kernel is frightening though.
[11:23] DaemonFC People will end up writing new systems in Rust and then those will turn out to be less robust and manageable in the future.
[11:23] activelow the idea only gcc or clang can compile linux kernel nowadays, this is the issue
[11:23] DaemonFC Then they may well end up having to chuck that and rewrite it in C anyway.
[11:23] DaemonFC the idea only gcc or clang can compile linux kernel nowadays, this is the issue
[11:24] DaemonFC I'm not sure what hell people would use.
[11:24] DaemonFC *the
[11:24] activelow and see for yourself how gcc bootstrapping was maintained, with guix project, which is a failure (not blaming gnu/guix, it's a fact)
[11:24] DaemonFC The BSDs only support those two.
[11:24] DaemonFC And GCC is considered a secondary option.
[11:24] activelow DaemonFC: the future is tiny embedded, sdcc compiler, and 8/16bit systems
[11:24] DaemonFC They call it deprecated, but unofficially, they make sure you still can compile it with that.
[11:24] activelow the modern 32/64bit bloatware is almost dead already, long-term
[11:25] activelow it is only coincidence, 8/16bit systems set a natural limit to blowing up a system
[11:25] DaemonFC Microsoft is sure obnoxious.
[11:25] activelow "micro"soft
[11:26] DaemonFC It would be a lot better if their business, an accounting scandal, just went under forthwith.
[11:26] DaemonFC Their finances aren't even as good as Apple's or Google's.
[11:27] DaemonFC Those two are definitely massively overvalued.
[11:27] DaemonFC GAFAM is overdue for a dotcom-style recession.
[11:27] DaemonFC People have been throwing money at it for a decade or so just because.
[11:27] DaemonFC That's what happened then too.
[11:27] DaemonFC It doesn't add value.
[11:28] activelow the dotcom bubble never busted, it should have, it didn't
[11:28] DaemonFC It just blows up figures on a trading floor screen.
[11:28] DaemonFC It blew up, but then before Apple, Amazon, and Microsoft went under, the government started this massive bailout program.
[11:29] DaemonFC Including super low interest rates that the market never would have had.
[11:29] DaemonFC The Fed "commands" interest rates, and that's like saying you can dictate whether it will rain today or how fast the wind will blow.
[11:30] DaemonFC They really have no control over what interest rates are. They can say they do, but it comes back out somewhere else.
[11:30] DaemonFC It's really daylight theft of people's savings through inflation.
[11:30] activelow they are accounting for puff in their balance sheets
[11:30] DaemonFC The goal, they say, is to goose the economy.
[11:31] DaemonFC People see their savings die and then buy things to avoid some of the pain.
[11:31] DaemonFC And they don't save as much.
[11:31] DaemonFC Then you have more problems.
[11:31] DaemonFC People having no savings means that people have no stability.
[11:31] DaemonFC When people have no stability, they go into debt.
[11:32] DaemonFC When people go into too much debt, they eventually file bankruptcy and then there's a collapse, and then the government comes in to "save everyone" again, with something even more horrible.
[11:32] DaemonFC They call this Keynesian Economics. schestowitz-TR2 ^
[11:32] DaemonFC They tell us that sound money, market interest rates, and fiscal responsibility would be insane.
[11:33] DaemonFC Japan has been going through this for decades and they're not better off than they were in 1990 just because the government has been "saving everyone" for 3 years now.
[11:33] DaemonFC "My government 'saved' everyone, and all I got was this stupid T-shirt."
[11:33] DaemonFC MinceR, ^
[11:35] DaemonFC It's still far worse to have no savings than it is to just buy pointless shit to avoid having the savings eroded a bit.
[11:35] DaemonFC If you save, you lose 2-3% of the value to inflation, per year.
[11:36] DaemonFC If you don't, you know, you eventually have the car break down or your husband needs major dental work, and you have no money, so you're financing it at 10-15%.
[11:36] DaemonFC They steal way more from people who don't have that buffer.
[11:36] DaemonFC Because you are stealing from your future to pay for this week.
[11:37] DaemonFC This dental work that Mandy needs is horrible enough *with* insurance.
[11:38] DaemonFC And they're knocking over 50% off the top line figure and then paying ultimately like $3,000 of that, and we'll still be left holding the bag and paying $3,000 or so cash.
[11:38] activelow last time i saved, with the plan to rent some office and relocate somewhere
[11:38] DaemonFC It's a horrible awful no good really bad deal.
[11:38] DaemonFC The insurance companies create no value. Some of it is fake discounts too.
[11:38] activelow i ended up with this money being gone after few month, because, social security is denied with savings, which i didn't plan to rely upon anyway
[11:39] DaemonFC Like the dentists sometimes slip you 20% off if you pay cash. They up their rate and then say you get a huge discount with your insurance.
[11:39] activelow it would have been better if i had saved *nothing* at all, and bought a car, and went on holidays
[11:39] activelow instead i wanted to save for establishing a company
[11:39] activelow ERROR
[11:39] DaemonFC it would have been better if i had saved *nothing* at all, and bought a car, and went on holidays
[11:39] activelow never again
[11:40] DaemonFC Yes, I was telling mom the other day it would have been better for me if I had been a crook like everyone else in the 2000s.
[11:40] DaemonFC Just "financed" a house.
[11:40] DaemonFC Lived in it making interest-only payments for 5 years.
[11:40] DaemonFC Lost the house.
[11:40] DaemonFC Hid a bunch of money in a cigar box. You know all those people weren't broke.
[11:40] DaemonFC They weren't all so stupid that they didn't know what a 5/1 ARM meant.
[11:41] activelow 5/1 ARM?
[11:41] DaemonFC You get an introductory interest rate on a mortgage for 5 years.
[11:41] DaemonFC Then it adjusts to market rates.
[11:41] DaemonFC Then it adjusts to some figure plus prime every year.
[11:41] activelow ok, guaranteed interest (it is called differently in germany)
[11:42] DaemonFC So, people signed these 5/1 ARMs and a lot of them said just pay this really low interest payment and no principal.
[11:42] DaemonFC We won't even check to see if you really do have a job.
[11:42] DaemonFC So people had a house, a big one, and for 5 years they were paying a couple hundred bucks a month.
[11:43] DaemonFC Then the ARM reset in 2007/2008 and suddenly the payment was $1,200 for the mortgage and they lost their house because the bank actually gave the mortgage to a couple people making $7-8 bucks an hour or whatever.
[11:44] DaemonFC Or they weren't employed at all.
[11:44] DaemonFC I mean, it was literally everyone gets a house.
[11:44] DaemonFC NINJA loans.
[11:44] DaemonFC Or the bank would give a $800,000 house to an electrician and a nursing assistant.
[11:44] DaemonFC Then it would come due for a reset and the mortgage is suddenly $4,500.
[11:45] DaemonFC The bank didn't care.
[11:45] DaemonFC As soon as it wrote the mortgage, it scored them as a "solid investment", put them into bonds, and sold the bonds.
[11:46] DaemonFC It was off their books and they made a fortune.
[11:46] DaemonFC They had no reason to worry about the performance of the loan.
[11:48] activelow what happened to the house and the people living in it?
[11:48] activelow anyway
[11:49] DaemonFC They walked off and threw the keys in the mailbox.
[11:49] activelow some interesting data, the generous social security, in germany: it is ~1.50EUros monthly calculated for education ~5cents per day
[11:49] DaemonFC Mom's neighbors actually did that.
[11:50] DaemonFC And they left the windows open all winter, and then a tree fell on the house.
[11:50] DaemonFC Then nobody fixed that and some kids broke in and tore the rest of it up.
[11:50] DaemonFC Then the bank had to tear it down.
[11:50] DaemonFC Then the city bought the empty lot and it's an empty lot.
● Oct 26
[12:06] schestowitz-TR2 [11:27] GAFAM is overdue for a dotcom-style recession.
[12:06] schestowitz-TR2 the US government bails out Micrtosoft
[12:07] schestowitz-TR2 thereby DEEPENING the recessio
[12:09] schestowitz x https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/bsdl-gpl/
[12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.freebsd.org | The FreeBSD Project | Why you should use a BSD style license for your Open Source Project
[12:09] schestowitz # non-reciprocal did not work out so well for Qt now did it?
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[12:10] schestowitz x https://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbean/2021/10/22/trailers-for-every-new-movie-you-can-stream-on-netflix-hulu-hbo-and-disney-this-weekend/
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[12:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | The Best New Movies To Stream On Netflix, Hulu, HBO And Disney+ This Weekend
[12:11] DaemonFC schestowitz, Canonical removed all of my criticisms of Snap from Wikipedia.
[12:11] DaemonFC It's hardly even worth bothering to edit Wikipedia.
[12:11] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt New Report Again Shows Global Telecom Networks Aren't Remotely Secure https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20211019/09411747776/new-report-again-shows-global-telecom-networks-arent-remotely-secure.shtml
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[12:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Report Again Shows Global Telecom Networks Aren't Remotely Secure | Techdirt
[12:12] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: yes, I came to this conclusion ages ago
[12:12] schestowitz-TR2 for most topics wikipedia is curated by PR firms
[12:12] schestowitz-TR2 they do "brand management" and stuff
[12:12] schestowitz-TR2 it's truly ridiculous
[12:12] DaemonFC Corporations monitor their own articles and just either roll it back to cause an edit war or quietly make small changes that eventually remove everything they don't like.
[12:13] techrights-news iophk: "no, it is the phone's operating system's outright contempt for sound design which renders it vulnerable. that goes double for any web browser software." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/24/insider/hacking-nso-surveillance.html
[12:13] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/24/insider/hacking-nso-surveillance.html
[12:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | I Was Hacked. The Spyware Used Against Me Makes Us All Vulnerable. - The New York Times
[12:14] techrights-news #billgates -bribes publication has often overlooked #microsoft https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/23/taming-the-tech-giants-is-one-thing-giving-free-rein-to-censors-quite-another see http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/
[12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Taming the tech giants is one thing. Giving free rein to censors quite another | Nick Cohen | The Guardian
[12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights
[12:14] DaemonFC https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3906
[12:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxmint.com | Monthly News May 2020 The Linux Mint Blog
[12:14] DaemonFC "A year later, in the Ubuntu 20.04 package base, the Chromium package is indeed empty and acting, without your consent, as a backdoor by connecting your computer to the Ubuntu Store. Applications in this store cannot be patched, or pinned. You cant audit them, hold them, modify them or even point snap to a different store. Youve as much empowerment with this as if you were using proprietary software, i.e. none. This is in effect simi
[12:14] DaemonFC lar to a commercial proprietary solution, but with two major differences: It runs as root, and it installs itself without asking you."
[12:15] techrights-news #assange https://www.euronews.com/2021/10/23/supporters-of-wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-march-to-london-s-high-court
[12:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supporters of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange march to London's High Court | Euronews
[12:15] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #assange Fate of Anti-War Journalism Lies in Upcoming Assange Hearings https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/25/fate-of-anti-war-journalism-lies-in-upcoming-assange-hearings/
[12:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fate of Anti-War Journalism Lies in Upcoming Assange Hearings - CounterPunch.org
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[12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | Trump's Social Media Platform Could Get Killed Before It Starts
[12:16] schestowitz AlphaNerd repeats several fundamental misunderstandings of the licensing
[12:17] DaemonFC They should just terminate the Ubuntu version and switch to Debian.
[12:17] DaemonFC No lawyers threatening them with "Ubuntu IP".
[12:17] DaemonFC And forcing them to sign "secret" agreements.
[12:17] techrights-news iophk: #VOA helping #Microsoft promote a distracting narrative; with Microsoft products an attack can be conflated with a breach, not so with real tech https://www.voanews.com/a/microsoft-discloses-new-russian-hacking-effort/6284503.html see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
[12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Microsoft Discloses New Russian Hacking Effort
[12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights
[12:17] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: remember Canonical threatened and shut down some ubuntu spins
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 and then microsoft bacon was trotted out to lie
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 and pretend it was no big deal
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 of course microsoft bacon can barely bring home the bacon anymore
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 the community shuns him
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 he works for our enemies
[12:18] DaemonFC Ubuntu went and used the DMCA to get rid of "Ubuntu Satanic Edition", which was a parody of Ubuntu Christian Edition, which they left alone.
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 and people can see that
[12:18] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: left alone only after backlash
[12:18] DaemonFC The only "Satanic Edition" changes were some wallaper and themes stuff.
[12:19] schestowitz-TR2 that's what Ubuntu was
[12:19] schestowitz-TR2 a debian with little changes
[12:19] schestowitz-TR2 when I used Ubuntu 4.10
[12:19] schestowitz-TR2 debian did not threaten shuttlworth
[12:19] DaemonFC I think there was a time where you could actually point your APT at Debian and it would turn it into Debian.
[12:19] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2010/07/11/waugh-on-canonical/
[12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Sexy Dawn of Ubuntu Branding | Techrights
[12:20] DaemonFC Like, it wasn't supported, but you could point it at the Testing branch and people did that.
[12:20] schestowitz you might say that MS (shuttleworth) just waned a sexist edition of debian
[12:20] schestowitz *wanted
[12:21] techrights-news #idg is paid by Microsoft, so it is not telling you about #gnu #linux ... https://www.pcworld.com/article/547106/microsoft-will-push-pc-health-check-app-to-all-windows-10-pcs.html "would do better to push Manjaro to all computers and overwrite #Vista10 in the process"-iophk
[12:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft will push PC Health Check app to all Windows 10 PCs | PCWorld
[12:23] DaemonFC schestowitz, Yes, when I was writing a parody encyclopedia article about Ubuntu, I called Mark Shuttleworth the Dread Cthulu, and then later I blacked out his eyes in a picture of him with a headset on.
[12:23] DaemonFC Dubbed "The Cthulu takes human form and prepares for the Conference Call of the Cthulu.".
[12:25] techrights-news #nytimes #misinformation again. iophk: "trying to shift the blame away from Microsoft shoddy work; worse, the NYT is treating #Microsoft executives as authorities on security" https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/25/us/politics/russia-cybersurveillance-biden.html see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
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[12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Ignoring Sanctions, Russia Renews Broad Cybersurveillance Operation - The New York Times
[12:26] psydruid Whatever Ubuntu community there was is dead. Now it's mostly current and former Windows users that are looking for their first GNU/Linux distro, but Debian has everything you need (if you can live with certain "wares")
[12:26] techrights-news old: Fully Countering Trusting Trust through Diverse Double-Compiling (DDC) PhD Public Defense (Wheeler) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/QYH18NpsRu8 #video #invidious
[12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Fully Countering Trusting Trust through Diverse Double-Compiling (DDC) PhD Public Defense (Wheeler) - Invidious
[12:29] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #Assange #wikileaks Free Julian Assange: Snowden, Varoufakis, #Corbyn & Tariq Ali Speak Out Ahead of Extradition Hearing https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/25/belmarsh_tribunal
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[12:29] DaemonFC That's why I ended up with Ubuntu on some systems back then.
[12:30] DaemonFC I tried getting Debian and it was like "Oh god what a mess.".
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[12:30] DaemonFC Debian would have more users now if it was always this easy to set up.
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[12:31] DaemonFC That was the elevator pitch back then.
[12:32] DaemonFC Smack a few buttons and you basically have a Debian desktop with sane defaults without having to learn a bunch of things and trial and error to get the basic system running.
[12:32] psydruid I know Debian was a mess and somewhat buggy around 2007 and up to a few years ago, but now it's Ubuntu that has lost its way and doesn't seem to offer any added value anymore
[12:32] DaemonFC And don't mind Canonical. They're just there to sell support contracts to businesses.
[12:32] DaemonFC I know Debian was a mess and somewhat buggy around 2007 and up to a few years ago, but now it's Ubuntu that has lost its way and doesn't seem to offer any added value anymore.
[12:32] DaemonFC Snap is a negative value.
[12:33] DaemonFC If you remove it, I'm sure they find a way to punish you for it later.
[12:33] DaemonFC That's how manipulators work.
[12:33] schestowitz-TR2 seems Microsoft paid Canonical to stop competing on the desktop
[12:33] psydruid I've seen bugs in Ubuntu across x86_64, aarch64 and ppc64le that are not present on Debian 9/10/11
[12:33] schestowitz-TR2 and many staff left
[12:33] schestowitz-TR2 then they started pushing WSL
[12:33] schestowitz-TR2 Canonical is just some "has been" at this stage
[12:33] schestowitz-TR2 and we need to prop up community distros when possible
[12:34] schestowitz-TR2 Fedora is being killed b IBM
[12:34] schestowitz-TR2 at least all the community side of it
[12:34] DaemonFC Windows' Suboptimal Linux
[12:34] schestowitz-TR2 it's just an experiment testbed with IBM products
[12:34] psydruid I never really felt Fedora was a community
[12:34] schestowitz-TR2 now it's clearer
[12:35] schestowitz-TR2 someone from red hat told me the council of fedora was always controlled by red hat
[12:35] schestowitz-TR2 it's there like ubuntu council
[12:35] schestowitz-TR2 pretense of "community"
[12:35] DaemonFC That's been obvious.
[12:35] schestowitz-TR2 with Microsoft Bacon as "community MANAGER"
[12:35] DaemonFC There were always more Red Hat employees on it than Community members.
[12:35] schestowitz-TR2 i.e. PR person trying to muzzle critics
[12:35] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: yes, that's what I was told
[12:36] DaemonFC Then if the vote still didn't go the right way, Red Hat could still step in and overrule the vote.
[12:36] schestowitz-TR2 or threaten to fire
[12:36] DaemonFC Without explaining itself.
[12:36] DaemonFC And complaining about it could cause you to lose your seat.
[12:36] DaemonFC (or job)
[12:37] psydruid just like Opensolaris was a "community", but it was even worse as you couldn't build it without binary blobs
[12:37] DaemonFC Everything going on in Fedora happened because Red Hat wanted it to go that way, and if it was otherwise, it was because they didn't care enough to take a position on the issue.
[12:37] psydruid I'm not sure you can build Illumos even now without blobs
[12:37] psydruid -binary
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[12:38] activelow you can't build any gnu/linux system without huge blobs to begin with (see guix gcc bootstrapping, which is broken)
[12:38] DaemonFC I'm not sure you can build Illumos even now without blobs
[12:38] DaemonFC Well, you can build it without the proprietary Sun compiler now.
[12:38] schestowitz well, the hope is that people will wisen up
[12:38] schestowitz and that the community will wake up and smell the coffee
[12:39] schestowitz now with all this clown computing stuff and LF or Kubernetes or GitHub, we have lots of evidence
[12:39] schestowitz they try to privatise the Commons
[12:39] schestowitz we push back
[12:39] schestowitz then they attack with slander
[12:39] schestowitz against FSF, GPL etc.
[12:39] DaemonFC Many people just see Windows as a thorn in their side as far as it being really flaky and temperamental.
[12:39] schestowitz if they leverages their spamnils and SJVNs, we need to call them out on it
[12:40] schestowitz *leevrage
[12:40] DaemonFC And switching to Ubuntu gets a practical gain of the OS not falling apart all the time.
[12:40] DaemonFC But things like Snap are the polar opposite of community.
[12:40] DaemonFC There's no community in Snap and there never could be without the server being released under an open source license.
[12:40] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Facebook Opinion | Media Outlets Flood the Zone With News of Facebook's Failure https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/25/media-outlets-flood-zone-news-facebooks-failure
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[12:41] DaemonFC Snaps are like the Apple store, except with one major advantage.
[12:41] psydruid > they try to privatise the Commons
[12:41] psydruid They are recreating proprietary UNIX with a thin veil of openness, but what if all actual users from the real community run away?
[12:41] DaemonFC Canonical has no power to force you to use it.
[12:41] schestowitz-TR2 they try to tell us "stores" are inevitable
[12:42] schestowitz-TR2 same for clown computing
[12:42] activelow psydruid: run where?
[12:42] schestowitz-TR2 self-fulfilling prophecies
[12:42] DaemonFC You can leave Ubuntu, ignore Snaps, and get your software from an open and documented method.
[12:42] DaemonFC Like Apt and Flatpak.
[12:42] psydruid Are they going to sit there and marvel at this wonderful product they have that no one is going to use anymore?
[12:42] schestowitz-TR2 now the LF pushes the idea that IBM and Google should tell us which binaries to run and which ones not to run
[12:42] schestowitz-TR2 Intel and Microsoft want to tell us which OS OUR PC should be allow to bootstrap
[12:43] psydruid activelow, that's a good question, they have locked many people in sneakily and quietly under a thin veil of openness
[12:43] schestowitz-TR2 with military budget thrown at entities that do this (Google, Microsoft, IBM...) you know what sort of forces you may be up against
[12:44] activelow a guideline is this: no gcc/clang or any c++ and dependency... good luck and see what remains :(
[12:44] psydruid Intel and MS are has-beens at this point in time
[12:44] DaemonFC mjg59, There's no conspiracy by Lenovo to lock out non-Windows systems and Ryan is crazy insane and insane crazy. (2016) / Also mjg59 a few years BEFORE that: Lenovo uEFI firmware won't let the machine boot because they blacklisted any bootloader not called Windows or Red Hat by _adding_ a check that fails unless the string matches.
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[12:45] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, ^
[12:45] techrights-news NEWS #DemocracyNow #Facebook Rep. Ro Khanna, Grandson of Activist Jailed with Gandhi Movement, Decries Facebooks Role in India https://www.democracynow.org/2021/10/25/ro_khanna_facebook
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[12:45] DaemonFC He's not only a toxic piece of shit. He conflicts with himself and proves he's lying from one blog post to the next.
[12:45] psydruid activelow, I know, but the truth is that I don't care about any of those and am not attached to them
[12:45] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: he's a fraud and many people know it
[12:45] schestowitz-TR2 more people realise it over time
[12:45] schestowitz-TR2 like last year, with wontboot
[12:46] schestowitz-TR2 where even red hat customers were unable to start their own servers
[12:46] psydruid I wish there were alternatives to everything, but that is not the case right now
[12:46] schestowitz-TR2 so it's cheaper for him to park here and look for ways to slander us
[12:46] schestowitz-TR2 than to actually undo the danage he did for about a million bucks in blood-soaked salaries
[12:47] psydruid he's a professional saboteur
[12:47] psydruid and getting paid well for it
[12:47] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Finance Opinion | Don't Believe the Corporate "Labor Shortage" Bullsh*t https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/25/dont-believe-corporate-labor-shortage-bullsht
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[12:47] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: maybe he should go work for NSO Group :D
[12:48] psydruid he can take that money into the grave with him knowing that he did mankind a huge disservice
[12:48] psydruid so in the end it doesn't really matter
[12:48] schestowitz-TR2 like I said anouit Colin Powell:
[12:48] DaemonFC There's no legitimate reason to add code that makes sure the system is booting Windows, or to add code that re-installs crapware over and over again, or add code that stops the user from switching a storage controller mode, or add malware to Windows that installs its own X.509 certificate in the root store.
[12:48] DaemonFC But Lenovo has done all of this and more.
[12:48] schestowitz-TR2 waste of graveyard space
[12:48] psydruid his legacy will be forgotten as we move away from Wintel in all spheres
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 It's an Intel thing too
[12:49] DaemonFC And mjg59 says I'm the problem. Give me a break.
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 in the future when Windows is extinct
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 and when the US government stops bailing out Microsoft
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 the boot restrictions might still be there
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 Pentagon finds it alluring
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 German gov looked into it
[12:49] schestowitz-TR2 and it condemned 'secure' boot
[12:49] psydruid with Intel, AMD and Qualcomm
[12:49] psydruid so avoid those at all cost
[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 it's way (another way) for US gov. to remotely brick another nation's IT operations
[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 in times of wars they can leverage it
[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 THAT is the 'bootkit'
[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 they control people's machine before even the first runlevel
[12:50] psydruid if ARM goes there too we will have to boycott them as well
[12:50] activelow most ARM is already there
[12:50] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish
[12:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Superfish - Wikipedia
[12:50] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: trustzone
[12:50] DaemonFC There's pressure on OEMs to do this sort of shit.
[12:51] schestowitz-TR2 risc-v not yet, I think
[12:51] schestowitz-TR2 China and India make designed based on it
[12:51] psydruid time to start a boycottarm site then
[12:51] DaemonFC Because they're trying to claw back the money they lost putting Windows on the computer.
[12:51] schestowitz-TR2 Russia has Balkal or whatever
[12:51] DaemonFC So they make the thing obnoxious and pack it full of bloatware.
[12:51] psydruid the OEMs should go out of business too
[12:51] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: the banks control those firms
[12:51] DaemonFC And in some cases cause horrible security problems.
[12:51] schestowitz-TR2 one recent cautionary tale is OnlyFans
[12:51] schestowitz-TR2 do X or we punish you financially
[12:52] psydruid they only do this because they grew up in the Wintel ecosystem
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 so it's also a financial-political issue
[12:52] psydruid and when the ecosystem dies, so will they
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 why do you think people are paid 3-5 times more to work for pentagon contractors?
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 disguised as "tech"
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 Google isn't tech
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 it's a keylogge
[12:52] DaemonFC The OEM considers Windows "free" because they can sometimes pressure users, overall, to spend more than the Windows license averages out to.
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 digsuised as "browser", "search etc./
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 yes, it can yield some rsults
[12:52] schestowitz-TR2 while riding US taxpayers' money
[12:53] DaemonFC By getting a "conversion rate", i.e., sellng them useless junk like sketchy antivirus software.
[12:53] DaemonFC MS Office.
[12:54] DaemonFC Now Lenovo even threatens that your computer won't run well unless you pay them $40 a year to "optimize its performance", and really all that does is enable a program to wake up and clean junk files and stuff occasionally.
[12:54] schestowitz-TR2 well, chinese company
[12:54] schestowitz-TR2 not that ibm was better
[12:54] schestowitz-TR2 ibm is a nazi company
[12:54] schestowitz-TR2 I call them "racist IBM"
[12:54] DaemonFC It wouldn't surprise me at all if you pay the $40 a year and literally all they've done is an AutoIT script that bangs on CleanMGR.exe in the background.
[12:54] schestowitz-TR2 they use projection tactics in recent years
[12:54] schestowitz-TR2 they try to present themselves as the very opposite of what they are
[12:55] DaemonFC Anyway, these are mjg59's friends./
[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 employers
[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 with projection tactics, too
[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 those who profit form nationalism
[12:55] schestowitz-TR2 rebranding themselves with cheap labels
[12:55] DaemonFC If you don't like Microsoft, you're transphobic.
[12:56] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/
[12:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | Techrights
[12:56] DaemonFC It's so comical how one dimensional and stupid his insults and epithets are.
[12:56] schestowitz Microsoft is transphobic
[12:56] DaemonFC You'd think he could devote himself to figuring out something better than that.
[12:56] schestowitz and Microsoft backs politicians who aren't also transphobic but also ban trans people
[12:57] schestowitz DaemonFC: broken minds cannot self-repair
[12:57] schestowitz not past the age of 40, that's for sure
[12:57] schestowitz people get to know who they deal with
[12:57] schestowitz and the tactics of slander
[12:57] schestowitz RMS has many supporters now
[12:57] DaemonFC They slip tons of money to Republicans who enact terribly homophobic laws at the state level and want to do the same higher up.
[12:57] DaemonFC Because it means lower taxes.
[12:57] schestowitz more people know who he is because the slanderous campaigns backfired
[12:57] DaemonFC mjg59 has no problem with that.
[12:58] schestowitz all in all, this works AGAINST the causes that corporations hide behind
[12:58] DaemonFC Microsoft: We love ICE and transgender bathroom and sports bans.
[12:58] DaemonFC mjg59: I love Microsoft, and their money!
[12:59] DaemonFC What a tool.
[12:59] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams Progressives Vow to 'Push Very Hard' to Keep Agenda From Being Gutted Beyond Recognition https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/25/progressives-vow-push-very-hard-keep-agenda-being-gutted-beyond-recognition
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[12:59] DaemonFC Then he pretends to be like this super raging leftist nerd or something.
[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 GCHQ is pinkwashing in recent years
[12:59] schestowitz-TR2 after what it did to Alan Turing
● Oct 26
[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 the tactics is, claim to be FOR the very thing you are working AGAINST
[13:00] DaemonFC I mean, for god's sake, I'm more progressive than that. I think there usually shouldn't be a law one way or the other about things and that things that aren't forbidden are allowed.
[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 at best, it created the perception you're the opposite
[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 a lesser compromise is, people get confused
[13:00] schestowitz-TR2 many people think Microsoft is "liberal"
[13:00] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/
[13:00] DaemonFC Oh no, they're a fascist company.
[13:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | Techrights
[13:00] DaemonFC And mjg59 is a right-wing fascist too if he supports them in any way.
[13:01] DaemonFC There's this thing called in for a penny, in for a pound.
[13:01] schestowitz-TR2 people wisen up
[13:01] psydruid > Now Lenovo even threatens that your computer won't run well unless you pay them $40 a year to "optimize its performance", and really all that does is enable a program to wake up and clean junk files and stuff occasionally.
[13:01] psydruid With the news of really powerful RISC-V chips from many companies coming the next few years, the game will soon be over for Wintel. I don't think buying Wintel for performance reasons is a sensible choice anymore, as performance of current chips is already more than enough for performing any tasks you want
[13:01] schestowitz-TR2 that's what they dislike
[13:01] schestowitz-TR2 there's a growing perception that GAFAM works as a force of oppression
[13:01] schestowitz-TR2 I called it PentaGAFAM for a while
[13:02] schestowitz-TR2 many of those salaries are Panentagon
[13:02] schestowitz-TR2 the workers are riuding US taxpayers vs black "Defence" budget
[13:02] DaemonFC They prop it up because who else is going to do their spying and dirty deeds for them?
[13:02] DaemonFC So they get out of paying taxes and competition law and everything else.
[13:02] schestowitz-TR2 I have a series on that coming
[13:02] schestowitz-TR2 to Techrighs
[13:02] schestowitz-TR2 I have NSA-connected source
[13:03] schestowitz-TR2 the spin off spying projects as companies
[13:03] schestowitz-TR2 to spy for them and gamify it
[13:03] schestowitz-TR2 the cost to the US taxpayer is enormous
[13:03] schestowitz-TR2 USSR broke down when it overspent like this
[13:03] schestowitz-TR2 USA is next
[13:03] DaemonFC mjg59 can say he's whatever he wants. He can project transphobia and anything he wants. But at the end of the day, he's gotten in bed with Microsoft. The company of ICE contracts and money to the Republican Party. Like Miguel did.
[13:04] DaemonFC There's no getting away from that stench once people know about it.
[13:04] schestowitz-TR2 yes, this is why he's herer
[13:04] schestowitz-TR2 targeting the people who exposed him
[13:04] psydruid scientes posted articles from Dimitri Orlov about that
[13:04] schestowitz-TR2 and put him on the blacklist of free software communities
[13:05] psydruid mjg59's endgame is working directly for Microsoft too?
[13:05] techrights-news NEWS #Site36 #Europol Frontex and Europol: How refugees are tracked digitally https://digit.site36.net/2021/10/25/frontex-and-europol-how-refugees-are-tracked-digitally/
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[13:06] DaemonFC Someone corrupted Debian enough to downplay what Secure Boot really is. It has almost nothing to do with security outside of the Microsoft context. I mean, maybe it's sort of a broken security bandaid (but mostly props up their monopoly). Their OS is such a piece of shit that it has millions of new pieces of malware each month. It's impossible to keep up with.
[13:06] DaemonFC You can say you have antivirus programs, but they can never be trusted to protect from any conceivable threat.
[13:06] schestowitz-TR2 they don't try to secue it
[13:06] schestowitz-TR2 we know from Snowden leaks
[13:06] psydruid Secure Boot on OpenFirmware
[13:07] schestowitz-TR2 almost everlapping the sabotage of Linux at boot level
[13:07] psydruid Secure Boot on U-boot
[13:07] psydruid Secure Boot on PMON200
[13:07] psydruid 0
[13:07] psydruid the whole idea is ridiculous
[13:07] DaemonFC They keep saying no malware on iOS. iOS has plenty of malware. It's called iOS and the App Store and most of the stuff in the App Store.
[13:08] DaemonFC It spies, it enforces monopoly, it steals your hard earned money so Apple can parasite off the developers.
[13:08] DaemonFC What is malware, exactly, if not this?
[13:08] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #DonaldBiden New US-Mexico Agreement Under #Biden Leaves Failed #DrugWar Policies Intact https://truthout.org/articles/new-us-mexico-agreement-under-biden-leaves-failed-drug-war-policies-intact/
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[13:08] schestowitz-TR2 Biden being Biden
[13:08] schestowitz-TR2 just as expected
[13:08] psydruid Secure Boot is only a thing on x86 hardware and certain ARM "phones" and tablets
[13:08] schestowitz-TR2 "at least he's not Trump"
[13:09] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: for now
[13:09] schestowitz-TR2 read up Cory Doctorow's essays
[13:09] schestowitz-TR2 specifically, look at "war on general-purpose computing"
[13:09] schestowitz-TR2 he did some lengthy assessments
[13:09] schestowitz-TR2 the Pentagon wants a bunch of chickens pecking at touchscreens
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 not functional computing controlled by people
[13:10] DaemonFC The US hasn't been operating under any sort of Constitutional government since 20 years ago.
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 booting? with permission
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 data? In the clown
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 otherwise they call you "pedo"
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 even repairs and modifications are now demonised
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 even in the SOFTWARE sense
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 they call it "sideloading"
[13:10] DaemonFC Congress has ceased to function as its own entity. They keep the bills going out on autopilot, maybe.
[13:10] schestowitz-TR2 like you are a bandit
[13:10] DaemonFC Maybe.
[13:11] psydruid are they going to wage a war on free hardware design?
[13:11] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/03/11/fake-security-brought-by-lf/
[13:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fake Security From Linux Foundation and the Monopolies Its Fronting for | Techrights
[13:11] psydruid and outlaw it?
[13:11] DaemonFC They turned over pretty much all of their other powers to the president over the decades.
[13:11] schestowitz LF wants GNU/Linux to refuse to run certain "apps"
[13:11] DaemonFC So whoever the president is now is effectively the dictator of America.
[13:11] schestowitz psydruid: they can buy it out
[13:11] psydruid activelow will be really happy with that
[13:11] schestowitz like OLPC
[13:11] schestowitz they just need to do enough o sabotage and fatigue worthy projects and communities
[13:12] DaemonFC People don't realize this. Our constitutional form of government has been almost completely torn apart.
[13:12] schestowitz or send trolls to IRC channels
[13:12] DaemonFC Very rarely does the court system or Congress smack down the president.
[13:12] schestowitz or take whole IRC networks tooblivion
[13:12] DaemonFC We have some very, very weak judicial and congressional oversight. Just barely any at all.
[13:13] DaemonFC What enables it to go on like this is that mjg59's friends at Microsoft throw some money at Republicans and some at Democrats.
[13:13] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #insurrection #treason #violence #coup Ocasio-Cortez Calls to Expel Members Who Aided Jan. 6 Plot After Fiery Report https://truthout.org/articles/ocasio-cortez-calls-to-expel-members-who-aided-jan-6-plot-after-fiery-report/
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[13:13] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: ^ terrorists inside the US govt.
[13:13] DaemonFC They want to keep things so close that neither party can get much done except payoffs for all of the bribery.
[13:13] schestowitz-TR2 still siting there
[13:14] schestowitz-TR2 Twitter threw Trump under the bus only two weeks before he was no longer useful to Twitter
[13:14] schestowitz-TR2 or, when Biden became more useful to Jack
[13:14] DaemonFC The Republicans or Democrats have an agenda, but it's rare that they can get a majority large enough to act on most of it.
[13:14] DaemonFC So things jsut sort of plod along, and this is how the business world likes it.
[13:14] DaemonFC Speaking candidly, they even admit that sometimes.
[13:15] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: as you can see, Biden axed "GOP TAX SCAM"
[13:15] schestowitz-TR2 or wait, he did not
[13:15] schestowitz-TR2 same masters, same interests
[13:15] DaemonFC Well, you know what he did do, Roy? He has the IRS turning GrubHub drivers upside down shaking them to see if any pennies fall out.
[13:15] DaemonFC I mean this is truly despicable.
[13:15] schestowitz-TR2 US has been just "dick politics" since the 1990s with Bill Clinton
[13:15] schestowitz-TR2 don't mind tax raiders
[13:15] DaemonFC Meanwhile, mjg59's buddies at Microsoft lay people off en masse and brag about their tax savings.
[13:16] schestowitz-TR2 mind dicks and stuff
[13:16] psydruid > they just need to do enough o sabotage and fatigue worthy projects and communities
[13:16] psydruid so it's basically governments and the established computer industry waging a war against people who (should) want to general-purpose computers
[13:16] psydruid what is people stop buying?
[13:16] schestowitz-TR2 much more important than oligarchs raping and plundering the general population
[13:16] psydruid if*
[13:16] DaemonFC mjg59 comes from one of the most notorious tax havens in the world.
[13:16] psydruid or source their hardware from elsewhere?
[13:16] DaemonFC So I'm sure he knows all about tax evasion.
[13:16] psydruid outside of established channels
[13:16] DaemonFC It's why there's so much money being routed through Ireland.
[13:17] techrights-news NEWS #MichaelGeist cananda #copyright The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 105: NDP MP Charlie Angus on Canadas Failed Digital Policy and His Hopes for the Next Parliamentary Session https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/10/law-bytes-podcast-episode-105/
[13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.michaelgeist.ca | The Law Bytes Podcast, Episode 105: NDP MP Charlie Angus on Canada's Failed Digital Policy and His Hopes for the Next Parliamentary Session - Michael Geist
[13:17] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: I am uploading a video about it at this very moment
[13:17] schestowitz-TR2 ireland as tax evaders' enabler
[13:17] psydruid Ireland is barely affordable if you don't work at Google or Facebook
[13:17] psydruid everyone else is being taken for a ride
[13:18] DaemonFC The "American Rescue Plan" included having the IRS go after people with more than $600 worth of 1099 income from things like Venmo and Paypal.
[13:18] DaemonFC I mean, the most they're probably going to turn up in those cases is like $50-60 in unpaid taxes for the entire year.
[13:18] DaemonFC After a several thousand dollar audit.
[13:18] psydruid Netherlands is becoming like that too
[13:18] DaemonFC Which they don't even have the budget to do.
[13:18] psydruid and is also a tax haven, of course
[13:18] DaemonFC Meanwhile, the Panama Papers people just skate by.
[13:19] psydruid Ireland is a better one, though
[13:19] techrights-news Show
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[13:19] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Everyone hates the IRS and it's been turned against the poor, pillaging them to get less money than the audits cost the government.
[13:19] DaemonFC That way they scream for the IRS to be shut down.
[13:20] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: London, NL, Ireland, Singapore, Panama, loads of 'imperial' islands
[13:20] schestowitz-TR2 ireland is usually for corporations
[13:20] DaemonFC As the IRS gets dismantled, it becomes easier for the rich to cheat to the tune of millions.
[13:20] schestowitz-TR2 the others a mix or mostly individuals (Switzerland a "market leader")
[13:21] DaemonFC The Libertarian Party never called for the IRS to be terminated.
[13:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.88 swarm size (avg): 259.84
[13:21] schestowitz-TR2 [12:37] NEWS #TheNation #Finance #taxEvasion Why the Super-Rich Are Flocking to #SouthDakota https://www.thenation.com/article/society/south-dakota-trusts/
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[13:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Why the Super-Rich Are Flocking to South Dakota | The Nation
[13:21] DaemonFC They called for a simple tax code with one rate that everyone pays.
[13:21] DaemonFC You can do your taxes on a post card, literally. No $75 software or accountant each year.
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[13:21] DaemonFC Those $75 "accountants" aren't even accountants.
[13:22] DaemonFC And the software is just a "tax wizard" with a warning that it's a self-prepared return.
[13:22] DaemonFC I mean, you're liable for any mistakes.
[13:22] techrights-news NEWS #TruthOut #Fraud #Finance #FederalReserve Officials Banned From Owning Individual Stock After Scandal https://truthout.org/articles/federal-reserve-officials-banned-from-owning-individual-stock-after-scandal/
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[13:22] techrights-news open
[13:23] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons Open Minds Podcast: Heather Joseph of SPARC https://creativecommons.org/2021/10/25/open-minds-podcast-heather-joseph-of-sparc/
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[13:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Open Minds Podcast: Heather Joseph of SPARC - Creative Commons
[13:23] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, I liked what Ron White said.
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[13:23] DaemonFC "I got in trouble with the IRS. It turned out that since I'm self-employed I'm supposed to file taxes quarterly, which I interpreted as once every 25 years, and it turns out that's not the case."
[13:24] schestowitz-TR2 :)
[13:24] schestowitz-TR2 he thinks he'll live to be 100
[13:24] DaemonFC The joke works so well because while not filing taxes at all is a crime, it usually does take them years to do anything substantial about you.
[13:25] DaemonFC It took them 8 years to send a letter to mom's ex-husband going "Why haven't you filed a return. We have all of these W-2s. We need to talk.".
[13:26] schestowitz-TR2 it's a lot simpler here
[13:26] schestowitz-TR2 healthcare too
[13:26] schestowitz-TR2 though the privatisation sucks
[13:26] schestowitz-TR2 you get a referral and then need to wait for letter
[13:27] DaemonFC The truth is, the federal tax code here is so complicated and whacko that it's impossible to know if you did everything exactly right.
[13:27] DaemonFC So you're waiting for a few weeks to get a text from TurboTax that says the IRS accepted your return.
[13:27] techrights-news #redhat is collapsing so fast in the hands of #ibm (I should write more about it, lack of time due to #epo corruption series). I don't think it'll last 10 or even 5 more years.
[13:27] DaemonFC Even then, you're not out of the woods.
[13:28] DaemonFC THey can go back and audit you for up to seven years.
[13:28] DaemonFC All "accepted" means is that you're probably okay.
[13:28] psydruid for how long will IBM last?
[13:29] psydruid I guess it will survive in India?
[13:29] techrights-news A lot of US 'tech' (spying disguised as tech') companies are going to collapse when the US goes 'full USSR' and can no longer cushion their losses with 'defence' subsidies and fabricated 'news' coverage
[13:29] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Claiming tax credits that poor people are meant to use can increase the odds of being audited several times.
[13:29] DaemonFC I think they said the EITC alone makes you 700% more likely to be audited.
[13:30] DaemonFC So if it's not going to be a lot of money, you might just skip it.
[13:30] techrights-news In the coming months #techrights will name some companies and even so-called 'Open Source' projects which are covertly controlled by #nsa (we have sources)
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[13:30] schestowitz-TR2 [13:29] I guess it will survive in India?
[13:30] schestowitz-TR2 IBM sells itself to Chinese and India firms
[13:30] schestowitz-TR2 like Lotus
[13:30] DaemonFC I may end up selling those bonds back to the treasury next year to pay our taxes.
[13:30] schestowitz-TR2 they're liquidated this way
[13:30] DaemonFC It just really depends.
[13:30] schestowitz-TR2 without official shutdowns
[13:31] DaemonFC Treasury Direct is a bit janky.
[13:31] DaemonFC The upside is that it's free to use.
[13:31] DaemonFC The brokerages that deal in bonds can't sell savings bonds at all.
[13:32] DaemonFC And they charge fees on others, because they're not in business to lose money.
[13:32] techrights-news Large US 'tech' companies are worth 5 to 10 times less than they claim to be worth. Fake valuations are essential to keep the financial bubble from bursting as national debt growth and taxpayers subsidise corporate losses.
[13:32] DaemonFC So it really eats into your earnings.
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[13:33] DaemonFC Not only are TIPS taxed by the states, but you pay commissions if you buy them anywhere else.
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[13:34] techrights-news NEWS #MintPressNews #uk #imperialism #coverup #revisionism Cruel Britannia: Britain's Real Role in the World, with Mark Curtis https://www.mintpressnews.com/cruel-britannia-britains-real-role-world-mark-curtis/278763/
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[13:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | Cruel Britannia: Britain's Real Role in the World, with Mark Curtis
[13:35] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Best Buy says they'll stop selling security cameras from companies who spy on people to further human rights violations in China.
[13:35] DaemonFC That's lovely. Maybe they'll stop selling ones from Google and Amazon that violate the Constitutional rights of Americans.
[13:35] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: maybe due to a PR blunder
[13:36] schestowitz-TR2 not because they dislike the profits
[13:36] DaemonFC That guy in Michigan lost his constitutional right to a fair trial due to Ring.
[13:36] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: no, that's Best Buy's PatrioticDuty(R)
[13:36] DaemonFC His own Ring, at that.
[13:36] schestowitz-TR2 to secure you from the terrorists and pedos and Trump supporters
[13:36] DaemonFC You can't confront it as a witness in court, or cross examine it.
[13:37] DaemonFC But they snatch the video and play it back to make you look bad to the jury.
[13:37] schestowitz-TR2 yes, you don't control the selective footage
[13:37] schestowitz-TR2 in fact, you don't have your own copy
[13:37] DaemonFC THe prosecutor just goes "See, the video got the whole thing! He's a horrible racist and that's why he fired a warning shot to get someone off his property!".
[13:37] schestowitz-TR2 cops use selective footage
[13:37] schestowitz-TR2 so do people in youtube
[13:37] schestowitz-TR2 the art of taking things out of context
[13:39] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch Phil Knights Billion-Dollar Philanthropy: Generosity or Self-Service? https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/25/phil-knights-billion-dollar-philanthropy-generosity-or-self-service/
[13:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Phil Knights Billion-Dollar Philanthropy: Generosity or Self-Service? - CounterPunch.org
[13:39] psydruid why don't people say "enough is enough" and start a revolution? are they so complacent these days?
[13:39] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: it's harder to organise
[13:39] schestowitz-TR2 more spying
[13:40] schestowitz-TR2 here in the UK they also uses COVID crisis to pass new laws
[13:40] schestowitz-TR2 I don't know the details
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[13:40] schestowitz-TR2 but Tim of techBytes mentioned them in latest episodes, 2 of them
[13:40] schestowitz-TR2 he's an ex cop, so he knows
[13:40] schestowitz-TR2 I think it's about congregation and assembly
[13:41] schestowitz-TR2 so in theory just getting a bunch of mates to protest can get you in trouble now
[13:41] schestowitz-TR2 and pressing "likes" in FB won't change anything
[13:41] schestowitz-TR2 it'll just help them draw up social graphs of groups
[13:41] schestowitz-TR2 I hard GCHQ here in Manchester is hiring
[13:41] schestowitz-TR2 so there's growing demand for ... "that"
[13:42] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Facebook #FB Profits Before People: The Facebook Papers Expose Tech Giant Greed https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/10/25/profits-people-facebook-papers-expose-tech-giant-greed
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[13:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Profits Before People: The Facebook Papers Expose Tech Giant Greed
[13:42] schestowitz-TR2 A long time ago I reached the conslusion that
[13:42] psydruid weren't shenanigans like these historically a reason to invade a country and sack its capital (the Goths in Rome)?
[13:42] DaemonFC People are just bitching about NordVPN in general now.
[13:42] schestowitz-TR2 1) our solution should be TECHNICAL
[13:42] schestowitz-TR2 not bloicking roads and stuff
[13:42] DaemonFC I hope my 12 months are up before there's no escape from kape.
[13:42] schestowitz-TR2 as that mostly alienates the general population
[13:43] schestowitz-TR2 RMS wrote about that a month ago too
[13:43] DaemonFC The CIA black ops project to buy up all of the VPNs and use them as a honeypot.
[13:43] schestowitz-TR2 2) more exposing, more journalism
[13:43] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: you still have e2ee
[13:43] schestowitz-TR2 for some communications
[13:43] schestowitz-TR2 I don't trust tor anymore
[13:44] schestowitz-TR2 for many reasons
[13:44] schestowitz-TR2 we need more technical solutions
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[13:44] schestowitz-TR2 like swarms, like ipfs
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[13:44] schestowitz-TR2 but ipfs has serious technical limitations
[13:44] psydruid Amazon advertises Ring on tv and Google wants to build a Nest in every home
[13:45] schestowitz-TR2 yes
[13:45] psydruid the worst part is people willingly buying those spying devices
[13:45] schestowitz-TR2 more like a 'pentagon project'
[13:45] activelow as soon as a web browser is started ...
[13:45] DaemonFC A billion dollars for a VPN doesn't make much sense unless you're a government buying it with taxpayer money to spy on people.
[13:45] schestowitz-TR2 convincing lots of idiots that it's "cool" to put CCTV with microphone in the home
[13:45] schestowitz-TR2 it's smart
[13:45] schestowitz-TR2 it's assistant
[13:45] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: maybe they don't even pay that much money
[13:46] schestowitz-TR2 maybe it's like plea bargain
[13:46] schestowitz-TR2 "we found these users doing these things on your servers"
[13:46] schestowitz-TR2 "surrender of we sue you to bankruptcy"
[13:46] schestowitz-TR2 under seal
[13:46] DaemonFC "Just get out now and turn over your users and we won't prosecute YOU."
[13:46] schestowitz-TR2 classified, under NDA, with blackmail/threat if you break the silence (consequences including jail time)
[13:47] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: see LavaBit
[13:47] schestowitz-TR2 he shut down his service
[13:47] schestowitz-TR2 after they had sort of blackmailed him
[13:47] schestowitz-TR2 Snowden used his service to leak NSA documents
[13:47] DaemonFC I don't think they'll even be very secretive about it, schestowitz-TR2. They'll have ExpressVPN and PIA spill like the Exxon Valdez and nobody will trust a VPN again.
[13:47] DaemonFC Problem solved.
[13:48] DaemonFC They may wait a while. I would.
[13:48] DaemonFC I'd take over several more and then hit everyone all at once.
[13:48] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #Finance Opinion | We Need to Tax the Billionaires Right Now https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/10/25/we-need-tax-billionaires-right-now https://www.reuters.com/article/us-offshore-wealth-idUSBRE86L03U20120722
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[13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | We Need to Tax the Billionaires Right Now | Sarah Anderson
[13:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Super rich hold $32 trillion in offshore havens | Reuters
[13:48] DaemonFC Someone asked me why I just pay for the VPN with a credit card.
[13:49] DaemonFC I said, "Because they know your IP address if it turns out they were really logging you."
[13:49] DaemonFC So this "Generate an account number and drop some cash in the mail." setups like Mullvad are not really that helpful.
[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 where is nordvpn based?
[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 legally and physically?
[13:50] DaemonFC Panama
[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 pia pretended to be "london"
[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: so why "nord"?
[13:50] schestowitz-TR2 are they piggybacking perception of scandinavian standards?
[13:51] schestowitz-TR2 while not even basing somewhere like Iceland
[13:51] DaemonFC I suppose it's possible.
[13:51] schestowitz-TR2 pia is korean americans
[13:51] schestowitz-TR2 who apparently have rather strange politics, too
[13:51] schestowitz-TR2 kim and lee
[13:52] schestowitz-TR2 they hired founder of swedish pirate party
[13:52] schestowitz-TR2 he had a nervous breakdowna
[13:52] schestowitz-TR2 and left
[13:52] schestowitz-TR2 the breakdown was so severe he had a PA to write replies on his behalf
[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes I wonder what led to it
[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 maybe some blackmail
[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 remember he was friends with assange
[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 whom CIA marked for torture and assassination
[13:53] schestowitz-TR2 in that order
[13:53] DaemonFC he had a nervous breakdowna
[13:53] DaemonFC and left
[13:53] DaemonFC That's what you get when you deal with Asian people.
[13:54] DaemonFC *rim shot*
[13:54] DaemonFC My in-laws.
[13:54] DaemonFC Also, Joy, my landlord in Chicago.
[13:54] schestowitz-TR2 the people who worked for lee on freenode maybe got one or two salaries
[13:54] DaemonFC She really did almost cause me to have one.
[13:54] schestowitz-TR2 then they vanished, with negative aura
[13:55] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch Collective Responsibility and Our Moral Compass https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/10/25/collective-responsibility-and-our-moral-compass/
[13:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Collective Responsibility and Our Moral Compass - CounterPunch.org
[13:55] DaemonFC I'm told that it's not just me, that a lot of Asian women are expected to be aggressive like MARISOL and Joy.
[13:55] DaemonFC I don't know if that's true or not.
[13:55] DaemonFC But in a country where it's assholes to elbows, wouldn't surprise me.
[13:56] DaemonFC Even in a city like Chicago, people get cramped and mean.
[13:56] schestowitz-TR2 you are generalising
[13:56] schestowitz-TR2 most of the world's population is asian
[13:56] schestowitz-TR2 if you mean chinese, you are also generalising
[13:56] schestowitz-TR2 many ethnicities in china and they're unlike their near neighbours
[13:57] schestowitz-TR2 in the UK when you say "Asian" it typically means Indian or Pakistani in origin/ethnicity
[13:57] DaemonFC Let's see, Joy was from Vietnam and came here on "Temporary Protected Status" and stayed for 40 years and panicked and got her citizenship because of Trump.
[13:57] DaemonFC And MARISOL is from the Philippines.
[13:58] DaemonFC Who the fuck waits 40 years to get their citizenship if there's really anything to be afraid of if someone makes them go back?
[13:58] MinceR "Big cities are notorious for rudeness, small towns are famous for being friendly. This isnt because only jerks live in cities and only nice people live in small towns. There is a psychological effect to having a press of people around us, competing for our resources and taking up our elbow room. People get impatient and edgy when theyre fighting a crowd."
[13:58] DaemonFC I know if someone said "It's $400 and raise your right hand and say this stuff -or- there's a chance you get deported to a Communist country..." what I'd be doing.
[13:58] MinceR https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=6185
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[13:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.shamusyoung.com | MMO Population Problems - Twenty Sided
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[14:00] DaemonFC The United States isn't what it once was. When I was a child, even, it was a fairly free country.
[14:00] DaemonFC But we're still not the worst.
[14:00] DaemonFC We'd have a very long drop to get to where Mexico or the Philippines are, and there's worst yet after that.
[14:00] DaemonFC *worse
[14:01] DaemonFC When I was a child, it was before that 9/11 power grab and, you know, constant governing through fear into getting people to give up their freedom even though they aren't any safer in the end.
[14:01] DaemonFC And now more governing through fear of COVID.
[14:01] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/europol-investigation-busts-150-high-value-darknet-vendors/a-59625287
[14:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Europol investigation busts 150 high value darknet vendors | News | DW | 26.10.2021
[14:01] DaemonFC You know, "If you liked that, you're gonna love this."
[14:02] DaemonFC Every single decade, things get worse. Much worse than you thought possible.
[14:02] DaemonFC And it's always something stupid.
[14:02] DaemonFC It's always something where previous generations were neither dumb nor cowardly enough to fall for the "Give us all your freedom." crap.
[14:03] DaemonFC We've had pandemics and surprise terrorist attacks before.
[14:03] DaemonFC Like the 1918 flu and Pearl Harbor.
[14:03] DaemonFC We didn't go crawl into a hole and tremble.
[14:04] DaemonFC At first, after 9/11, I figured "Okay, we're enraged, we're going to do something about it, and we're going to kill these fuckers dead, and then we'll be done with it.".
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[14:05] DaemonFC And that wasn't where it was going. Everything got redirected into Iraq, into an oil grab, and then we lost in Afghanistan.
[14:05] MinceR that's not crawling into a hole and tremble
[14:05] MinceR that's punishing someone who had little to do with the event :>
[14:05] techrights-news Something is deeply wrong with your economy when you're 30,000,000 MILLION dollars in debt (39 million) and your government gives almost 30 BILLION dollars in bailout to a company that CLAIMS to be worth trillions but makes losses
[14:06] DaemonFC Yeah, that's worse, and that's what we did, but a lot of people still crawled into a hole.
[14:06] DaemonFC Right? My parents were too old to go, so they didn't care what happened.
[14:06] MinceR it's like the hungarian state which likes to punish someone, anyone, in case they can't figure out the culprit
[14:06] DaemonFC They keep voting for these assholes.
[14:06] MinceR they call it "objective responsibility"
[14:07] DaemonFC MinceR, My favorite was the Jelly Donut in Full Metal Jacket.
[14:07] DaemonFC Remember that?
[14:07] MinceR no
[14:07] DaemonFC Gunnery Sergeant Hartman punishes everyone else because the fat guy sneaks a donut out of the commissary and into the barracks.
[14:07] MinceR :>
[14:08] DaemonFC He makes the guy eat the donut while everyone else is doing several hundred pushups.
[14:08] DaemonFC Then they call get together and put bars of soap into towels and beat the shit out of him with it.
[14:08] DaemonFC Then he snaps and grabs a loaded rifle and murders the drill sergeant.
[14:08] MinceR :)
[14:09] DaemonFC (Then himself.)
[14:09] techrights-news When you best national "defence" is just printing money (or taking more DEBT/LOANS) you are NOT protecting the POPULATION but only the robber barons. 30,000,000 MILLION dollars in debt (30 trillion... I mistyped that moments ago) https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-debt
[14:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tradingeconomics.com | United States Government Debt | 2021 Data | 2022 Forecast | 1942-2020 Historical
[14:09] DaemonFC "I said choke yourself! NO GODDAMN IT! WITH MY HAND!".
[14:09] MinceR https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/177396-the-good-book-told-me-to-make-you-die-then-myself
[14:09] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: 101soundboards.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/177396-the-good-book-told-me-to-make-you-die-then-myself
[14:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.101soundboards.com | The good book told me to make you die then myself. - Postal 2 Sounds
[14:10] schestowitz-TR2 [14:06] they call it "objective responsibility"
[14:10] DaemonFC MinceR, They were a lot harder on people back then.
[14:10] schestowitz-TR2 they throw objects at you?
[14:10] MinceR no
[14:10] DaemonFC Now, the drill instructors aren't allowed to touch you.
[14:10] DaemonFC They'll still get in your head though.
[14:11] DaemonFC It's easy to terrorize someone psychologically without laying a finger on them.
[14:11] schestowitz-TR2 'art' form
[14:12] schestowitz-TR2 is the CIA still headed by Haspel
[14:12] schestowitz-TR2 the torture lady
[14:12] schestowitz-TR2 who was so cruel even her male colleagues were grossed out?
[14:12] DaemonFC MinceR, I liked Silence of the Lambs where that psych ward inmate was jerking off and threw his cum all over Agent Starling, and it sickened Hannibal Lecter (a cannibal!) so much that Lecter tormented the guy into committing suicide.
[14:12] DaemonFC Didn't even have to leave his cell to do it.
[14:12] DaemonFC Then he was smirking about it when the psychiatrist said he knew what he had done.
[14:13] DaemonFC Lecter also liked to torment the Psychiatrist by reminding him of what a hack he was.
[14:14] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes reporting can be like this
[14:14] schestowitz-TR2 when you show people who other people are
[14:14] DaemonFC In the end, he let the guy boast about catching Lecter in front of all the news cameras right before he escaped and disappeared.
[14:14] schestowitz-TR2 it leads to self-shame
[14:14] schestowitz-TR2 but that's an aspect of reporting
[14:14] schestowitz-TR2 and if you target the very corrupt people, it's justified
[14:15] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC6nCKRFcig
[14:15] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, MARISOL is pretty dumb. I have to stand in awe. Every week I find out something else.
[14:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YGOTAS Quotables - Torment! - YouTube
[14:15] DaemonFC When she was email bombing our lawyer from Catholic Charities, she got the woman's name wrong and half the words in the email were misspelled.
[14:15] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: don't waste your time
[14:15] schestowitz-TR2 do posts, research things
[14:15] DaemonFC Well, at least if I get a letter from MARISOL I'll know it.
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[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 a lot more rewarding them stooping down to the level of "shoppers" or social climbers
[14:16] DaemonFC It'll be in orange crayon with half the letters backwards, and it will say "Dear Ricky".
[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 they bring you down and grind their 'friends' down
[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 taking loans to impress fake friends
[14:16] DaemonFC My god, how is that woman a nurse?
[14:16] schestowitz-TR2 a jealousy games that finished off everyone except the lenders
[14:16] DaemonFC How did she get through college with ANYTHING?
[14:17] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: I have an article about Romania ready
[14:17] schestowitz-TR2 wanna read it?
[14:17] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Mandy was bragging that he was studying Humanities.
[14:17] schestowitz-TR2 it's rather long
[14:17] DaemonFC I said I wouldn't brag about handing the Communists of Lake County $6,500 a year for that.
[14:17] schestowitz-TR2 I am uploading the video about this article atm, 44 mins long
[14:17] DaemonFC Unless he can find a way to parlay a Humanities study into a $100,000 a year job.
[14:18] schestowitz-TR2 mandy sounds like a kind person
[14:18] schestowitz-TR2 but misguided
[14:18] schestowitz-TR2 and manipulated by family, peers
[14:18] schestowitz-TR2 not actually malevolent like the sister
[14:18] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: can you read the draft?
[14:18] DaemonFC He frequently accuses me of acting like his sister. I said, "Nope, she'd let all your teeth rot out while you were scrubbing her toilet.".
[14:18] DaemonFC "Then you'd be sent back."
[14:19] DaemonFC "Not like her at all."
[14:19] schestowitz-TR2 watch a bunch of losers cheating their way into the romanian patent office
[14:19] schestowitz-TR2 even a 28 year old
[14:19] DaemonFC Oh, sure.
[14:19] schestowitz-TR2 wait, will iron out some things...
[14:19] DaemonFC Then she tried bringing her other brother over here.
[14:19] schestowitz-TR2 and TIA
[14:20] DaemonFC So I got on Facebook and listed SOME of the things she had done to Mandy.
[14:20] DaemonFC He told her hard pass.
[14:20] schestowitz DaemonFC: draft: http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/epo-and-romania/
[14:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXIV: The Balkan League Romania | Techrights
[14:20] schestowitz LOTS of lessons there
[14:20] schestowitz notably, you can be a nobody
[14:20] schestowitz but it's about WHO you know and what you FAKE
[14:21] DaemonFC Throwing the neighbor's dog a poisoned hamburger is less cruel than letting someone go live with MARISOL with no warning.
[14:21] schestowitz DaemonFC: I will expect a few typos
[14:22] DaemonFC "no relevant experience but political connections (like EPO President Antnio Campinos) and sometimes forged documents with fake degrees"
[14:23] DaemonFC no relevant experience, but rather political connections (like EPO President Antnio Campinos) and sometimes forged documents and fake degrees
[14:23] DaemonFC diploma mills....lol
[14:23] schestowitz-TR2 will rewrite
[14:24] DaemonFC "Unfortunately for Varga, shortly after he had assisted in the rubber-stamping of Battistellis Strike Regulations in June 2013, he was dismissed as head of OSIM, following his conviction by a Romanian court on charges of causing a EUR 300,000 damage to the state agency via an acquisition contract for IT services, as reported in the Romanian media."
[14:24] DaemonFC No mistakes....but...
[14:24] DaemonFC "Never trust a traitor, not even one you create." -Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
[14:26] DaemonFC I like where Better Call Saul is going.
[14:26] DaemonFC I could never stand Howard.
[14:26] schestowitz-TR2 HK
[14:26] DaemonFC His contempt of Jimmy is part of the reason why Jimmy became a dishonest and crooked lawyer.
[14:27] DaemonFC (And led to Howard's on mental breakdown and suicide.)
[14:27] DaemonFC The things we do to others come full circle.
[14:27] DaemonFC Had he given Jimmy credit for the Sandpiper case and a fair deal at Hamlin, Hamlin, McGill, Jimmy would have been a fine attorney.
[14:28] DaemonFC Instead, he turned into Saul Goodman, a dirty Illinois-style ambulance chasing sleazebag.
[14:28] DaemonFC But part of Howard's contempt was that Jimmy studied law at a foreign university to keep his tuition down.
[14:28] DaemonFC Which was actually quite brilliant, because he passed the bar
[14:29] DaemonFC Even at a community college ran by the county....
[14:30] DaemonFC It amazed me how much tuition Mandy was burning through to accomplish very little, and how many useless administrators and professors who didn't actually know shit, had been allowed to burrow there.
[14:31] DaemonFC One of the PROFESSORS told Mandy that before the Gregorian Calendar, nobody had one.
[14:31] DaemonFC So, I was standing there, and I said, "What about the Julian Calendar?".
[14:32] schestowitz-TR2 Julius
[14:33] schestowitz-TR2 I found an error in an href, it made one link not work
[14:33] MinceR > Facebook just released a mail client. - All emails will be flagged as "Mark has read".
[14:33] schestowitz-TR2 this series gets a lot of exposure in many places because it's otherwise hard to find this material in English
[14:33] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: there are Orbans in Romanian politics
[14:34] MinceR i know
[14:34] MinceR they're not nearly as bad as the gypsy king though
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[14:34] schestowitz-TR2 one in this new article, too
[14:34] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludovic_Orban
[14:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ludovic Orban - Wikipedia
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[14:35] DaemonFC That wasn't even the worst.
[14:35] DaemonFC Then they started shoving SJW crap into his head and making him pay to read it.
[14:35] DaemonFC Trevor Noah isn't even a comedian.
[14:35] DaemonFC He's just a rich black guy that scream racial oppression.
[14:36] DaemonFC He ruined the Daily Show immediately, and they're probably running it at a loss to be politically correct.
[14:38] DaemonFC "Barbus political connections helped him to secure the top job at the OSIM at the tender age of 28 in December 2017 under the short-lived PSD-led administration of Mihai Tudose."
[14:38] DaemonFC People who get into Congress in their 20s don't last long, usually.
[14:38] DaemonFC The older ones gang up on them and figure out how to entangle them in corruption scandals and such.
[14:39] DaemonFC Truth is, they're all corrupt. They just don't anyone else in on the action. Especially if they weren't a blue blood before they got in.
[14:39] schestowitz-TR2 true
[14:40] schestowitz-TR2 of course there's the exception
[14:40] schestowitz-TR2 AOC is still surviving there
[14:40] schestowitz-TR2 the progressive media defends her enough
[14:40] schestowitz-TR2 and she's not "blue blood" or collar
[14:41] schestowitz-TR2 her parents were not so well off
[14:42] techrights-news The EPOs Overseer/Overseen #Collusion Part XXIV: The Balkan League - #Romania http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/epo-and-romania/ #epo #patent #patents
[14:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXIV: The Balkan League Romania | Techrights
[14:43] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Walmart is trying to quietly shove more employee pay into the 401(k) plan.
[14:43] DaemonFC They're increasing everyone's contribution by 1% of their gross pay without asking them, even if they've already maxed out the company match.
[14:43] DaemonFC They say they want to "help" you build a retirement fund.
[14:44] DaemonFC If they want to help, they should match the 7% then if they're going to raise it from 6 to 7 if you don't do anything.
[14:44] DaemonFC There has to be an angle to this somewhere.
[14:44] DaemonFC You know as well as I do that they don't give a shit what your retirement is like.
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[14:46] DaemonFC Maybe Bank of America has arranged for it to benefit Walmart somehow if they did this.
[14:46] DaemonFC But everyone is madder than hell about it and going back in to set their contribution at what it was before.
[14:52] schestowitz-TR2 [14:43] schestowitz-TR2, Walmart is trying to quietly shove more employee pay into the 401(k) plan.
[14:52] schestowitz-TR2 the pyramid schemes
[14:52] schestowitz-TR2 aka "the money you may never see" :-)
[14:52] DaemonFC I put in 6% because it's what they'll match.
[14:52] DaemonFC The risk has to be worth it.
[14:53] schestowitz-TR2 if they match
[14:53] DaemonFC You throw your money in and it isn't matched, the risk isn't worth it anymore.
[14:53] schestowitz-TR2 with my work, the employer matches 5%
[14:53] DaemonFC Walmart matches 6%
[14:53] schestowitz-TR2 and then there's the alleged tax benefit
[14:53] DaemonFC So the risk, to me, is worth 6% of Mandy's pay because Walmart doubles it.
[14:53] schestowitz-TR2 his parents did not live long
[14:54] DaemonFC He'd have to lose half of it somehow and never gain it back in order to come out behind.
[14:54] schestowitz-TR2 he might never get any of that money
[14:54] DaemonFC I inherit it if he dies.
[14:54] DaemonFC It's a 401(k).
[14:54] DaemonFC I'm not just his spouse, I'm listed as his only beneficiary.
[14:54] schestowitz-TR2 maybe marisol will write his will for him
[14:54] DaemonFC Nobody else has any legal claim to that money.
[14:56] DaemonFC I'm not the kind of person you want to have pissed off like that.
[14:56] DaemonFC Right after losing my spouse, to find out that I got swindled by his sister?
[14:56] DaemonFC Bad idea.
[14:57] DaemonFC Oh let's make a person who now has nothing in this world to lose angrier than he's ever been in his life.
[14:57] schestowitz-TR2 I saw things
[14:58] DaemonFC She'd be setting off a powderkeg.
[14:58] DaemonFC Better to just leave it alone.
[14:59] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Death usually isn't such a clean process anyway, schestowitz-TR2
[14:59] DaemonFC Long before he died, I'd probably resort to cashing the money out to pay our bills.
[14:59] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/dear-satan
[14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Dear Satan
● Oct 26
[15:00] DaemonFC Even old people usually just suffer and fade.
[15:01] schestowitz-TR2 they don't see the aftermath
[15:01] DaemonFC People say that God decides when and where, so we just sit back and say "Oh, that's going to be what it's like for me, probably.".
[15:01] schestowitz-TR2 sometimes literal powderkeg
[15:01] DaemonFC "All these nuts that think I have to live because of their religion."
[15:02] DaemonFC Mom was talking about how ridiculous it was for Robin Williams to kill himself.
[15:02] DaemonFC I said she didn't know what his prognosis was or what he was already going through.
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 many like him die from overdose
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 they have fun while dying
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 I'd not say Michael Jackson
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 But Amy Whitehouse is a recent example
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 that guy from Prodigy IIRC
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 they trash themselves
[15:04] schestowitz-TR2 Whitney Houston...
[15:05] schestowitz-TR2 Karen Carpenter... don't think drugs finished her but weight loss
[15:05] DaemonFC My mom's one of those people who can only see things from her own narrow perspective.
[15:05] schestowitz-TR2 money
[15:05] schestowitz-TR2 person has money
[15:05] schestowitz-TR2 hence person happy
[15:05] DaemonFC Like, if she hasn't experienced it, she can neither imagine it nor sympthize.
[15:05] schestowitz-TR2 hence is person happy person gets profesional help
[15:05] schestowitz-TR2 money buys happiness
[15:06] schestowitz-TR2 it's BS
[15:06] DaemonFC Yeah, mom's always helpfully suggesting I spend all of our money talking to psychologists and stuff.
[15:06] schestowitz-TR2 as if a person with prostate cancer and money can just pay the tumour away
[15:06] DaemonFC Like I have $150 an hour to pay someone to listen to this and that.
[15:07] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: can you read a shorter draft? 2 paras
[15:07] DaemonFC You talk to a psychiatrist for 3 hours, there went 10% of your money for the month.
[15:07] DaemonFC YOu're no closer to where you need to be.
[15:07] schestowitz-TR2 you could buy BOOZE
[15:07] schestowitz-TR2 GOOD booze
[15:07] schestowitz-TR2 that that cheap junk
[15:07] schestowitz-TR2 *not that
[15:08] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, Yeah, I took up daytime drinking for a while. While I was with John, near the end.
[15:08] DaemonFC I couldn't stand it anymore anyway.
[15:08] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/osim-timeline/
[15:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Romanias Patent Office (OSIM): Nine Different Chiefs in Just Eight Years | Techrights
[15:09] DaemonFC "for English-reading audience"
[15:09] DaemonFC for our
[15:10] DaemonFC looks good
[15:10] DaemonFC John Romero moved to Romania.
[15:11] DaemonFC He got a domain for himself.... rome.ro
[15:13] MinceR lol
[15:13] schestowitz-TR2 ha
[15:13] schestowitz-TR2 joseon.kr
[15:13] schestowitz-TR2 and "london" media
[15:13] schestowitz-TR2 freedomtech
[15:14] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: is it fair to say hungary has brain brain in general and for software engs too?
[15:14] MinceR brain drain? probably
[15:14] MinceR people have been fleeing this dump for years
[15:15] schestowitz https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58642558
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[15:15] techrights-news Romania's Patent Office (OSIM): Nine Different Chiefs in Just Eight Years http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/osim-timeline/ #Romania #epo #patent #patents #europe
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[15:16] schestowitz-TR2 BBC crapped out
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[15:16] schestowitz-TR2 BillBC: you must be under 15 to view this content
[15:16] MinceR you must be 18 or older to ride!
[15:16] schestowitz-TR2 you must be this micro and soft
[15:17] schestowitz-TR2 Jimmy Savile
[15:17] schestowitz-TR2 they acted all serious AFTER he died
[15:17] schestowitz-TR2 and AFTER their COVERUP was exposed... BBC knew all along
[15:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.96 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.46 swarm size (avg): 259.84
[15:34] Techrights-sec I forgot how slow the scraping is. At the end of 2013 right now.
[15:34] schestowitz-TR2 we're improving the gemini capsule
[15:34] schestowitz-TR2 better navigation and all
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[15:36] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/blue
[15:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Blue
[15:36] techrights-news [Meme] Mayoral Patent Office Chief http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/signing-by-goran-gerasimovski/ #NorthMacedonia #Austria #EPO #EPOnia #corruption
[15:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Mayoral Patent Office Chief | Techrights
[15:36] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157198 #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[15:36] techrights-news #KDE Plasma 5.23.2 Released with NVIDIA GBM Support, More Bug Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157199 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[15:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.23.2 Released with NVIDIA GBM Support, More Bug Fixes | Tux Machines
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[15:54] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/26/on-television-streaming-boxes-and-streaming-disservices/
[15:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | On television streaming boxes and streaming disservices. BaronHK's Rants
[15:58] DaemonFC Edited: "This comes after the apps in the boxes cost many tens of thousands of jobs in video rental stores."
[15:59] DaemonFC They weren't great jobs, I'm sure, but at least they were a job that paid someone to do something.
[15:59] DaemonFC Now there's no job.
[15:59] techrights-news [Meme] Sounds Legit http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/legit-epo/ #epo #europe #corruption #patents #epi
[15:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Sounds Legit | Techrights
● Oct 26
[16:00] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, They were cheaper than apps.
[16:00] DaemonFC Most people grabbed a movie or two on Friday night and returned them on Monday morning in the drop box on the way to work.
[16:00] DaemonFC If there was nothing worth watching that week, there was no bill.
[16:01] DaemonFC Netflix relies on people forgetting to cancel it, but also not watching much of anything.
[16:01] activelow interesting, QT framework has strong support in the industry, siemens, german aerospace, tesla, microsoft, among many others. it is a long list of evilness.
[16:01] MinceR (cat) https://imgur.com/t/cats/Y2Lg2rg
[16:01] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: imgur.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://imgur.com/t/cats/Y2Lg2rg
[16:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lieutenant Jan Taylor says you may take her kibble but youll never take her Verizon box - Album on Imgur
[16:02] activelow i fully wiped out QT of the dependency graph. when closing LTS version they showed their true face.
[16:02] techrights-news This apology helps a lot https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007438.html #solderpunk #geminispace
[16:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Apologies for my previous messages
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[16:03] activelow spyder IDE had been a nice-to-have, after i cut out qtwebengine calling home... not worth the effort anymore
[16:05] DaemonFC "Most people are watching Netflix less because most of whats on the Netflix app is crap and junk that they got really cheap, and you have to go to another app on a different box and order pay per view."
[16:05] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR2, I just keep getting this even better.
[16:06] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: yes, it is proprietary now
[16:06] schestowitz-TR2 5.x LTS and 6.x+
[16:06] activelow 6.x too?
[16:06] schestowitz-TR2 yes
[16:06] schestowitz-TR2 7+
[16:06] activelow won't miss it
[16:06] schestowitz-TR2 they're just faking "Open Source"
[16:07] schestowitz-TR2 they even use that term
[16:07] schestowitz-TR2 like, we're cool with "Open", but our stuff is proprietary from now on
[16:07] schestowitz-TR2 the grace period got many people in their grip
[16:07] schestowitz-TR2 and companies too
[16:07] schestowitz-TR2 before covid-19
[16:07] activelow problem isn't qt itself, it is some software which depends on it (sci-*, audio-*)
[16:07] schestowitz-TR2 I feel sorry for large projects and team who invested in qt as their toolkit
[16:08] activelow and if i had to decide upon if any widget toolkit was acceptable, i wouldn't pick neither GKT nor QT anymore
[16:08] DaemonFC Lxde ported away from GTK and to Qt.
[16:08] DaemonFC Now they get this disaster to look forward to.
[16:08] MinceR i'd pick Tk or FLTK
[16:08] DaemonFC Now that they depend on Qt APIs.
[16:08] activelow ^ MinceR
[16:09] activelow would be curious too, how often fltk broke their API in the last 10years, they're still version 1.X
[16:09] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXQx5k5_8XA
[16:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-That's a bad snake - YouTube
[16:09] MinceR \_()_/
[16:10] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E_2bvYBB4E
[16:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cartman preaches - YouTube
[16:10] MinceR usually i prefer TUI though
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[16:11] DaemonFC Given what I've seen in the UK lately...
[16:11] DaemonFC Wouldn't surprise me if Megachurches and Televangelists are big there too.
[16:11] schestowitz-TR2 here? no.
[16:12] DaemonFC Hmm
[16:12] MinceR maybe after the end of the UK they will be
[16:12] MinceR once the tories fully and permanently rule what's left of it
[16:13] MinceR (england and maybe wales)
[16:13] DaemonFC These people find folks who aren't particularly intelligent, live trite and meaningless lives, but have some spare cash and can be prodded into thinking they can balance out all the bad stuff they've done if they buy this asshole a private jet or three.
[16:14] DaemonFC (england and maybe wales)
[16:14] DaemonFC Yes, they lost the empire and now they're bickering with each other and on the verge of becoming some rump states.
[16:16] DaemonFC Even the government's own projections state that their ability to project any sort of military force is regressing to the point where they won't have a blue water navy soon.
[16:16] DaemonFC They've been on Putin's "many years of thinking you can afford to make small mistakes" path for a while now.
[16:17] DaemonFC The trouble with that mentality is it all adds up and you entertain so many "So what? It was a small mistake. Keep the chin up!" incidents that eventually you're left with nothing.
[16:18] DaemonFC We have some of that going on for sure.
[16:18] DaemonFC I was just thinking about the Republicans.
[16:18] MinceR white water is cooler anyway
[16:19] DaemonFC When Illinois was passing laws to counter Trump's agenda, the right-wing news said that we had seceded and gone renegade.
[16:19] DaemonFC But the Texas abortion law is fine.
[16:19] MinceR the usual double standard
[16:21] activelow not sure, fltk is c++ too; gtk2 may not have been that bad, but it is a dead horse nowadays.
[16:22] MinceR so what
[16:22] MinceR Tk is Tcl but you don't have to program in Tcl to use it
[16:23] activelow fltk.org website says c++; anyway, if gtk3 is phased out in a few years then what?
[16:24] techrights-news NHS: my dog ate my homework with #covid19 data. Did they use #microsoft #windows to manage this data? Remember the #uk COVID-on-Microsoft-Excel blunders... always remember. Windows kills. http://techrights.org/2020/06/09/windows-disaster-zones/
[16:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of the Series About Windows Inside Hospitals (Causing Hospitals to Become Disaster Zones) | Techrights
[16:25] MinceR use a lightweight toolkit or fork one of the heavy ones
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[16:25] MinceR if they don't have something insane like 2 web browsers built in, you don't have to maintain it much
[16:25] MinceR s/it/them/
[16:26] MinceR of course if you support waylandows, waylandows may churn and cause incompatibility
[16:26] MinceR but an easy fix is to not support waylandows
[16:27] activelow with c++ (fltk or any other) the problem of suitable compilers appears
[16:27] MinceR Tk it is, then
[16:28] MinceR i prefer that one anyway
[16:29] activelow tk isn't fltk, i remember tk in use together with Perl
[16:30] techrights-news "Kathy Rain: Director's Cut is the definitive edition of the popular point and click mystery adventure from Clifftop Games and Raw Fury. It's out now and it comes with native Linux support." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/the-90s-mystery-adventure-kathy-rain-directors-cut-is-out-now
[16:30] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: gamingonlinux.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/10/the-90s-mystery-adventure-kathy-rain-directors-cut-is-out-now
[16:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The '90s mystery adventure Kathy Rain: Director's Cut is out now | GamingOnLinux
[16:32] techrights-news New Feature Release - Resolution Scaler https://yuzu-emu.org/entry/yuzu-art/ #freesw #nintendo #emulator
[16:32] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: yuzu-emu.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://yuzu-emu.org/entry/yuzu-art/
[16:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yuzu-emu.org | New Feature Release - Resolution Scaler - yuzu
[16:34] activelow with python gtk3 is common, anyway, sufficient options available, won't miss qt.
[16:34] Ariadne modern gtk is very tied to GNOME HIG though
[16:34] Ariadne which is why i ported audacious to qt to begin with
[16:34] activelow needless to say, i won't miss java, have had enough of it when they switched their AWT to swing widgets, year 2002 iirc
[16:35] techrights-news #HowTo Install and Play War Thunder on Ubuntu https://linuxhint.com/war_thunder_ubuntu/ #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux
[16:35] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/war_thunder_ubuntu/
[16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | How to Install and Play War Thunder on Ubuntu
[16:36] activelow greetings Ariadne
[16:37] schestowitz-TR2 Ariadne: I use it at the moment, are both modes qt?
[16:37] schestowitz-TR2 also the winamp clone?
[16:37] Ariadne yes
[16:37] Ariadne its all qt
[16:37] Ariadne at this point
[16:37] schestowitz-TR2 ok, cheers
[16:37] Ariadne you can build the gtk version still, but it will probably go away someday
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 "
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 Audacious was originally based on the X Multimedia System (XMMS) via its
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 GTK+ 2.x port Beep Media Player (BMP). Audacious has changed quite a bit
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 since its first release, however, and little XMMS/BMP code remains.
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 "
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 this is 3.10.1
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 copyright 2001-2018
[16:38] schestowitz-TR2 Thomas Lange
[16:39] schestowitz-TR2 is this the one that Debian pushed out?
[16:41] schestowitz-TR2 this is debian 10 btw, that's the version they provide
[16:44] techrights-news Destination Linux 249: The Brave and the Bold https://destinationlinux.org/episode-249/ #destinationlinux #gnu #linux
[16:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 249: The Brave and the Bold - Destination Linux
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[16:45] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157201 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
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[16:46] techrights-news #Games: Kathy Rain: Directors Cut, Megaquarium: Architects Collection, Horizon Chase Turbo, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157200 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[16:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Kathy Rain: Director's Cut, Megaquarium: Architect's Collection, Horizon Chase Turbo, and More | Tux Machines
[16:47] activelow solution to media players here: mplayer+directfb on framebuffer console
[16:47] schestowitz-TR2 mpv?
[16:48] activelow no, the legacy mplayer
[16:48] schestowitz-TR2 let me check what mpv uses
[16:48] activelow i have an open issue with mplayer too, which is vt-switching with video-out isn't working, with sdl2+directfb vt-switching i could patch this already
[16:49] schestowitz-TR2 it seems to be neither gtk nor qt
[16:49] activelow mpv and mplayer are by design a VT terminal application suitable for framebuffer-only
[16:50] activelow mpv only supports DRM, which i reject, and mplayer got directfb support, that's why
[16:51] activelow nice bonus of this: mplayer+directfb is fast, dvd video upscaled to fullhd does not require any of the acceleration voodoo
[16:52] activelow to reiterate this idea, i removed: QT, cups, opengl/mesa, systemd, dbus, pulsaudio, ... most components are compiled without X and GTK bindings, only when necessary
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[16:53] Ariadne mpv works well for me
[16:53] techrights-news #Its time to boycott #AWS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157202 many other reasons e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ and http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Amazon
[16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Its time to boycott AWS | Tux Machines
[16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights
[16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Amazon - Techrights
[16:53] activelow mpv got no directfb support, instead it locks into the vendor-specific malicious GPU crap
[16:57] techrights-news Guide to Installing #GNULinux on a "Mac"-Branded PC https://linuxhint.com/install_linux_on_mac/ #LinuxHint #GNU #Linux
[16:57] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxhint.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxhint.com/install_linux_on_mac/
[16:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Guide to Installing Linux on a Mac
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[17:03] activelow quoted from www.directfb.org "GNU/Linux makes it possible to insist on the fact that many GNU tools are necessary for Porno HD the functioning of Linux"
[17:04] MinceR porno?
[17:04] techrights-news #Gentoo Linux: Building/rebuilding a kernel and Intel CPU microcode in an installation without initramfs | Fitzcarraldos Blog https://fitzcarraldoblog.wordpress.com/2021/10/26/gentoo-linux-building-rebuilding-a-kernel-and-intel-cpu-microcode-in-an-installation-without-initramfs/
[17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fitzcarraldoblog.wordpress.com | Gentoo Linux: Building/rebuilding a kernel and Intel CPU microcode in an installation without initramfs | Fitzcarraldo's Blog
[17:04] activelow "the difference between GNU/Linux and other systems such as Windows or macOS is that this system d exploitation is free"
[17:04] activelow "Without necessarily claiming to be the best operating system, Linux milf xxx is a system renowned for its stability"
[17:05] activelow no idea which troll hijacked www.directfb.org
[17:05] MinceR sounds like someone ran pornolize on it
[17:05] MinceR ah, no, it's spam
[17:05] techrights-news Wine 6.20 Released with Ubuntu 21.10 Support, Heres how to Install http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157103#comment-31539
[17:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.20 | Tux Machines
[17:06] activelow directfb isn't spam, it has the potential to crush the billion dollar GPU scam business
[17:06] schestowitz-TR2 "Linux milf xxx"
[17:06] schestowitz-TR2 nice mothereboard
[17:06] schestowitz-TR2 can I fsck it?
[17:06] activelow because, SDL+directfb is the only codepath i know, on linux, which offers 100% free and opensource software-only rendering, without any gpu acceleration voodoo
[17:07] activelow no special kernel drivers, no special software stack in user-space, nothing of this required
[17:11] techrights-news File Searching on #Kubuntu https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2021/10/file-searching-on-kubuntu.html #UbuntuBuzz #GNU #Linux
[17:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntubuzz.com | File Searching on Kubuntu
[17:12] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/carbonite
[17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Carbonite
[17:12] activelow sadly, linux kernel too must have altered something, with /dev/fb0, which nowadays is served on top of DRI/DRM, and known as fbdev2 nowadays; i suspect the old fbdev (removed from kernel) didn't require the DRI/DRM stack before
[17:13] activelow i suspect dri/drm in kernel was enforced when HDMI appeared, don't feel brave enough to revert back to kernel 2.6, given both lack of hardware and userspace support
[17:14] MinceR you could try dual booting or running a liveusb system
[17:14] activelow how should this remove DRI/DRM and help with kernel 2.6?
[17:15] MinceR you could run an old kernel without disturbing your current installation
[17:15] MinceR see if it supports your hardware, etc.
[17:16] activelow it doesn't
[17:19] techrights-news #Romania s #patent office has been in flux this past decade, occasionally led by people with no relevant experience, but rather political connections (like #EPO President Antnio Campinos) http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/epo-and-romania/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/26/epo-and-romania/
[17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The EPOs Overseer/Overseen Collusion Part XXIV: The Balkan League Romania | Techrights
[17:20] techrights-news #NVIDIA 495.44 Graphics Driver Adds GBM Support, Indicator for Resizable BAR Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157203 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA 495.44 Graphics Driver Adds GBM Support, Indicator for Resizable BAR Support | Tux Machines
[17:20] techrights-news #Vulkan update: version 1.1 conformance for Raspberry Pi 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157204 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Vulkan update: version 1.1 conformance for Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines
[17:20] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157205 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[17:21] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157206 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[17:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.81 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.51 swarm size (avg): 259.84
[17:21] techrights-news he #Romania State Office for Inventions and Trademarks ( #OSIM ), being the equivalent of the U.S. #Patent and #Trademark Office (USPTO) in the sense that it covers both patents and trademarks, is a very flaky institution with no shortage of #scandals http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/osim-timeline/
[17:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Romanias Patent Office (OSIM): Nine Different Chiefs in Just Eight Years | Techrights
[17:22] techrights-news As it turns out, political double-dipping isnt just a thing in #NorthMacedonia , #Austria, and #EPOnia [Meme] Mayoral Patent Office Chief http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/signing-by-goran-gerasimovski/ #Techrights #epo | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/26/signing-by-goran-gerasimovski/
[17:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Mayoral Patent Office Chief | Techrights
[17:23] techrights-news When not cheating on the wife, the EPOs doyen cheats in the exams and makes it into the #epi Council, in effect working [t]owards a common understanding [sic] of quality t http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/legit-epo/ #Techrights #epo #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/26/legit-epo/
[17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Sounds Legit | Techrights
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[17:34] techrights-news Links 26/10/2021: Vulkan 1.1 Conformance for Raspberry Pi 4 and Tor Browser 10.5.10 http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/tor-browser-10-5-10/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/26/tor-browser-10-5-10/
[17:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/10/2021: Vulkan 1.1 Conformance for Raspberry Pi 4 and Tor Browser 10.5.10 | Techrights
[17:35] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157207 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
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[17:45] scientes I don't really get this sense of humor of recursive accronyms
[17:45] scientes is it like redundant acronym syndrome
[17:45] scientes or RAS Syndrome
[17:46] scientes i was thinking of calling a piece of vaporware Nein! or Nein is Not an Emulator
[17:47] scientes but i guess silly is something differn't
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[17:56] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/snow-white-2
[17:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Snow White
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[18:33] DaemonFC I think lxde should have stayed with GTK.
[18:34] DaemonFC It was already written. It could have ported, and Qt is turning out to be a dead end that's under yet another proprietary software company that's doing nasty things with it.
[18:34] DaemonFC The way I understand it, lxde came about because some Chinese guy who was using Windows XP didn't like Vista very much.
[18:35] DaemonFC Vista got almost nowhere in China.
[18:37] DaemonFC GTK isn't particularly heavy just because GNOME is. GNOME isn't even very heavy looking at what most modern software has become.
[18:38] DaemonFC Windows 10 is now dragging around GUI bits from Windows 2000 and up.
[18:38] DaemonFC Errr, 11.
[18:38] DaemonFC When I saw the Windows 10 taskbar appears in Windows 11 bug, I laughed hard.
[18:38] DaemonFC They should be able to delete this if it's really a completely new OS.
[18:41] DaemonFC That's always what I say when people say "Linux" is inconsistent.
[18:41] DaemonFC There's a Settings applet in GNOME.
[18:42] psydruid LXQt felt slower and clunkier than XFCE when I tried it a few weeks ago
[18:43] psydruid so maybe the common factor is that everything always turns into crap
[18:43] DaemonFC In Windows 11, depending on the setting you want to change you may need, in roughly this order, the Settings applet, the Legacy Control Panel, Display Configuration, Backup, Backup (Windows 7), gpedit.msc, msconfig, or regedit.
[18:44] techrights-news #Fedora 34, A Review of Flatpak-Wayland Desktop Mix Part I http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157208 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 34, A Review of Flatpak-Wayland Desktop Mix Part I | Tux Machines
[18:44] techrights-news liveslak-1.4.0 and new ISO images are available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157209 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:44] DaemonFC On top of that, there's a separate add/remove programs and Turn Windows Features On or Off.
[18:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | liveslak-1.4.0 and new ISO images are available | Tux Machines
[18:45] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157210 #Linux #TuxMachines
[18:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines
[18:45] psydruid we have seen Trainwreck 11 and are now anticipating Trainwreck 12 in several years
[18:46] psydruid will it be the last Trainwreck?
[18:46] DaemonFC Even though they have a new file manager that isn't a GUI disaster now, I'm sure the old one is still there.
[18:46] DaemonFC Will be for as long as Windows is around.
[18:46] schestowitz [17:46] i was thinking of calling a piece of vaporware Nein! or Nein is Not an Emulator
[18:46] schestowitz Nein! Nein! Nein! Nein!
[18:47] DaemonFC It's impossible to shove all of this stuff under the rug. There's too many settings.
[18:47] DaemonFC I was reading the list of complaints Linux Mint had about Nautilus.
[18:48] schestowitz [18:38] When I saw the Windows 10 taskbar appears in Windows 11 bug, I laughed hard.
[18:48] DaemonFC By lines of code, the GNOME developers atually shrank it by several thousand by removing odd and rarely used features.
[18:48] schestowitz wrong function call
[18:48] schestowitz wrong copy=paste
[18:48] DaemonFC That code has a cost. There can be bugs in there, there can be memory leaks, there can be security issues.
[18:48] schestowitz when the microsoft workers are just home-working wankers
[18:48] DaemonFC Who will maintain it? Linux Mint? Sure they have the right to fork, and they did. But have fun with it.
[18:49] schestowitz gui-level stuff is less a security risk
[18:49] DaemonFC gui-level stuff is less a security risk
[18:49] DaemonFC It's visual clutter and bloat.
[18:50] schestowitz it's mostly userspace and rendering
[18:50] DaemonFC The templates thing always made me mad.
[18:50] schestowitz c++
[18:50] DaemonFC I just want to get where I'm going when I right click, not have my right-click menu tripled in size by asking if I want to create new LibreOffice files.
[18:50] schestowitz funny thing is, Windows still doesn't use Microsoft's own frameworks
[18:51] psydruid MFC lol
[18:51] psydruid if anything was ever horrible it's that
[18:51] DaemonFC Yeah, they had a version of Yahoo Messenger specially made for Vista.
[18:51] DaemonFC It used three times as much memory, crashed more, and didn't have video chat.
[18:52] DaemonFC Great APIs! Fantastic APIs! For the DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS! DEVELOPERS!
[18:53] DaemonFC These people at Microsoft don't know their ass from next Tuesday about developing their own operating system and we want them monkeying around in the bowels of the Linux kernel, right?
[18:54] DaemonFC Thankfully, most of their crap is only relevant if you want to run Linux as a Guest on Windows for some strange reason, or Windows' Substandard Linux.
[18:54] psydruid why is Win32 even so closely tied to (into?) the kernel
[18:54] DaemonFC It's not. That's the crazy thing.
[18:54] DaemonFC Win32 is just an API plug-in.
[18:55] DaemonFC In theory, they could remove it entirely.
[18:55] techrights-news "Free #contraception will be offered to women in #Ireland, starting with the 17-25 age cohort" https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/free-contraception-scheme-introduced-august-25279333 #overpopulation
[18:55] DaemonFC That's what they said they were going to do before Windows 10X crashed and burned.
[18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.irishmirror.ie | Free contraception scheme to be introduced in August 2022 as full details confirmed - Irish Mirror Online
[18:55] psydruid but that would make them lose the only advantage they have
[18:56] DaemonFC Just last year they were saying there'd be a Windows 10X that put Win32 off in a sandbox and gave each application its own scratch copy of Windows to mess up if it wanted to.
[18:56] psydruid who is even writing new applications for Windows using the framework of the day?
[18:56] DaemonFC And this year, they shit out Windows "11" and it's just another broken mess with a coat of paint.
[18:56] techrights-news #Yuzu (Switch Emulator): Introducing Project ART - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/yuzu-switch-emulator-introducing-project-art/ #boilingsteam #freesw
[18:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Yuzu (Switch Emulator): Introducing Project ART - Boiling Steam
[18:56] DaemonFC And somehow they managed to add bugs even though it's barely different.
[18:56] psydruid when I asked what library I could use, someone told me DirectX
[18:57] psydruid I don't even know if that person was serious or not
[18:58] DaemonFC I think it just screams that it's a mess to the point where you can't touch anything without it all coming down on top of you.
[18:59] DaemonFC DirectX isn't even one set of libraries. It's not even all available anymore.
[18:59] MinceR 26 193328 < DaemonFC> I think lxde should have stayed with GTK.
[18:59] MinceR they should have moved to a lightweight toolkit
[18:59] DaemonFC With DirectX 9 you need to install files to make it work again. Everything older doesn't work.
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[19:00] psydruid but it works out of the box with WINE?
[19:00] DaemonFC This really is tragic from the perspective of wanting to preserve older software.
[19:00] DaemonFC To maintain the broadest userbase possible, games were using DirectX 9 well into 2013, as I recall.
[19:00] psydruid for me $OS+WINE is $WINDOWS
[19:01] DaemonFC So you have a decade plus of applications that don't even work now unless you install files and won't work at all ever again on Windows soon.
[19:01] DaemonFC And that includes Fallout 3 and New Vegas.
[19:01] techrights-news KDE Plasma 5.23.2, Bugfix Release for October http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157199#comment-31540
[19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Plasma 5.23.2 Released with NVIDIA GBM Support, More Bug Fixes | Tux Machines
[19:01] DaemonFC Both of which STILL have huge modding communities.
[19:01] techrights-news #GitHub stale bot considered harmful http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157211 #deletegithub #TuxMachines
[19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GitHub stale bot considered harmful | Tux Machines
[19:01] psydruid better compatibility with Windows than Windows itself
[19:01] techrights-news #NVIDIA Tegra SoCs and NVIDIAs 495.44 Linux Driver http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157212 #kernel #Linux #TuxMachines
[19:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NVIDIA Tegra SoCs and NVIDIA's 495.44 Linux Driver | Tux Machines
[19:02] psydruid and the nice thing is your Windows gets updated every 2 weeks without any risk of breaking the operating system
[19:02] DaemonFC It has to sting the people who worked on those projects and poured thousands of hours of their lives into sitting there writing stories and missions to beat and scripts and characters and game art.
[19:02] DaemonFC That Microsoft is deleting the files necessary to make them run.
[19:03] DaemonFC I hear that Alder Lake Intel CPUs won't be hardware compatible with certain older games.
[19:03] DaemonFC So now Intel is throwing old software on the dust heap.
[19:03] DaemonFC This really is a trainwreck.
[19:03] psydruid it would be funny if they did work on Wine on Linux running on Alder Lake
[19:04] DaemonFC Well, this is basically like book burning, in my opinion.
[19:04] psydruid I don't mind book burning
[19:04] psydruid farewell books
[19:04] DaemonFC Because these RPGs play out like graphic novels, and you're the protaganist.
[19:04] psydruid farewell Intel
[19:05] schestowitz-TR2 bye
[19:05] DaemonFC I wonder what AMD plans to do.
[19:05] schestowitz-TR2 GPUs
[19:05] DaemonFC If it turns out to be this bad on the Intel side, that's the last Intel system I buy.
[19:05] schestowitz-TR2 overpriced crap
[19:06] psydruid they should realise by now that the only reason why people care about their CPUs is backward compatibility with x86 software
[19:06] DaemonFC Yes, once that goes, then nobody needs Intel or Microsoft anymore.
[19:06] schestowitz-TR2 but we still have a mess to clean up
[19:06] DaemonFC That's why they used to bend over backwards to make sure it all stayed working.
[19:06] schestowitz-TR2 it is a life-long challenge
[19:06] psydruid lose that, welcome ARM, RISC-V etc.
[19:06] schestowitz-TR2 there's never a time to rest
[19:07] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: then intel agencies move onto these
[19:07] schestowitz-TR2 with their fat budget
[19:07] DaemonFC Someone will probably need to make an x86 emulator that works well enough.
[19:07] DaemonFC As time goes on, their patents expire.
[19:07] DaemonFC First In First Out.
[19:07] DaemonFC They have less and less to threaten with.
[19:08] psydruid Vista 11 on Alder Lake with little to no backward compatibility is like a suicide note
[19:08] schestowitz-TR2 iirc, a microsoft troll may have brought Torvalds' patent
[19:08] schestowitz-TR2 IV
[19:08] schestowitz-TR2 *patents
[19:08] schestowitz-TR2 maybe he has almost a dozen
[19:08] DaemonFC Well, it was attitudes like the one Torvalds had all along that made him increasingly irrelevant to Linux.
[19:09] techrights-news "If people are not free to express their opinion this would be a real problem." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007440.html
[19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Apologies for my previous messages
[19:09] DaemonFC And now they force him to see counselors and claim he has mental illnesses to make it easier to shove him aside permanently.
[19:09] schestowitz-TR2 one remaining obstacle will be www
[19:09] schestowitz-TR2 with web-drm/eme
[19:09] schestowitz-TR2 adobe trash is a cautionary tale
[19:09] DaemonFC mjg59 is closer to "mentally ill" than Torvalds is, for sure.
[19:09] DaemonFC Definitely more toxic.
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[19:09] schestowitz-TR2 lots of 'sites' (apps) that no longer work
[19:09] DaemonFC Very corrupt.
[19:09] activelow future will be this: more "apps" migrate into the web browser, including office suite. next microsoft can fully terminate win-api, in a decade or two.
[19:09] schestowitz-TR2 and adobe DMCAing things in Microsoft's shithub
[19:10] techrights-news "Developed by University of Minnesota in the early 90's. Peaked in the early 90's. Gained a small resurgence in the 2000's. Gained a larger resurgence in the late '10s with increased popularity coming from tilde servers and other small internet communities such as SDF and Bitreich." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007441.html
[19:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP
[19:10] DaemonFC "Leaked documents have revealed that Google has been encouraging people to continue using email even though everyone knows it fucking sucks and nobody under the age of 30 uses it. "It fucking sucks", says an internal memo. "Nobody under the age of 30 uses it""
[19:11] DaemonFC LOL
[19:11] psydruid I already ran Debian amd64 in QEMU on Debian arm64
[19:11] DaemonFC I have a Vivaldi.net email that I use for personal stuff.
[19:11] psydruid user level QEMU should be faster
[19:11] DaemonFC The others have been taken over by a tidal wave of spam.
[19:12] DaemonFC There's a program I saw the other day that basically just turns email into a decentralized instant messaging program by, you know, reformatting how contacts and chat bubbles come up.
[19:12] DaemonFC And the neat thing about it is that other people don't have to know you use that.
[19:12] techrights-news Solderpunk: "I don't currently plan to add any new features." GOOD! https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007442.html
[19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | A proposal to freeze the Gemini specification
[19:12] psydruid Delta Chat?
[19:12] DaemonFC You don't have to convince them to go out and get some software just to talk to you.
[19:12] DaemonFC Yeah.
[19:13] DaemonFC I think so.
[19:13] DaemonFC Well, it gave me an idea.
[19:13] DaemonFC I just stopped talking to mom, dad, Mandy, and others on Facebook.
[19:14] DaemonFC Then they ask why there are so many emails coming to them.
[19:14] techrights-news "In this video, I am going to show an overview of #MXLinux 21 and some of the applications pre-installed" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1SpZH7I_x1Y #gnu #linux
[19:14] DaemonFC I told them "Because I use a program that displays them to me as if they were chat bubbles and then I don't have to open a Facebook tab and let Facebook run software on my phone or computers to shoot you a message.
[19:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Linux overview | MX Linux 21 - Invidious
[19:14] DaemonFC So, you know, it's email.
[19:15] DaemonFC They discourage it because it's harder for them to keep tabs on people, run malicious code on their phone or in a web browser.
[19:15] DaemonFC Of course they want to say everyone who uses it is old and stupid.
[19:17] DaemonFC "I would love to see an analysis of how much "systemd is a corporate takeover of the Linux community" overlaps with "codes of conduct are a corporate takeover of free software communities" and how much that overlaps with the alt-right" - mjg59
[19:17] techrights-news #ibm #redhat going on about "transformation" again; it's fake modernity that adds more vendor lock-in for little pragmatic value. https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/digital-transformation-5-tips-keep-people-center
[19:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | How to put people at the center of digital transformation | The Enterprisers Project
[19:18] DaemonFC Sure, I'll reply here so he can see it. Codes of Conduct are just generally stupid and assume that everyone is such a fragile piece of work that they can't handle having to face real world circumstances. To show how nuts these things actually are, let's look at Vivaldi's Forums CoC where it says you can't "be sarcastic" about something even if you don't hurt anyone's feelings.
[19:18] techrights-news "The #pandemic jolted businesses across the globe, forcing them to accelerate their digital initiatives some achieved years worth of digital transformation initiatives in a matter of months." https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/10/digital-transformation-7-skills-prioritize
[19:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 7 in-demand technology skills | The Enterprisers Project
[19:19] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: they will redefiine alt-right
[19:19] schestowitz-TR2 e.g. to mean people who don't think the word "master" ir racist
[19:19] schestowitz-TR2 spoiler: it is not
[19:19] DaemonFC mjg59, The weather yesterday was really terrific. I love it when it's freezing and raining on me sideways. It's quite invigorating. (This could get you banned from Vivaldi forums.)
[19:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/02/23/minds-of-profound-racists/
[19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Word Master is Not Problematic in Most Contexts and Its Origin Hasnt a Connection to Slavery | Techrights
[19:20] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/07/trolling-the-real-community/
[19:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Biggest Troll is the Linux Foundation, Still Looking to Provoke and Defame Free Software Communities in Order to Help a Monopolistic Takeover and to Shoehorn Tyrants Into Leadership Positions | Techrights
[19:20] schestowitz mjg59's past employer
[19:20] schestowitz where he pushed Microsoft attacks on motherboards
[19:20] schestowitz like Miguel de Icaza did OOXML
[19:22] DaemonFC Sarcasm is actually, I mean, it goes over people's heads sometimes if they are truly stupid, and everyone else just usually laughs at it.
[19:22] techrights-news More #greenwashing from #racist #ibm today https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/green-farm-supports-sustainable-community-agriculture/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism
[19:22] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/green-farm-supports-sustainable-community-agriculture/
[19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Green Farm supports sustainable community agriculture IBM Developer
[19:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights
[19:22] DaemonFC It isn't necessarily mean, so why ban all sarcasm?
[19:23] DaemonFC Sometimes it's the funniest way to lay out an argument using backwards logic.
[19:23] techrights-news #IBM kicked off another #greenwash campaign today https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/project-scavenger-manages-e-waste-for-a-healthier-world/ IBM is a HUGELY immoral company http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism
[19:23] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/project-scavenger-manages-e-waste-for-a-healthier-world/
[19:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Project Scavenger manages e-waste for a healthier world IBM Developer
[19:24] DaemonFC Remember American Beauty where his wife was screaming at him for "losing" his job instead of patting him on the back for figuring out a way to get a $60,000 severance and to keep his healthcare for a year on the way out, when they were about to fire him and leave him with nothing?
[19:24] techrights-news #IBM pretends to care about carbon footprint; same as #Microsoft https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/plenti-cuts-kitchen-waste-to-shrink-carbon-footprint/ see http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/
[19:24] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/plenti-cuts-kitchen-waste-to-shrink-carbon-footprint/
[19:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Plenti cuts kitchen waste to shrink carbon footprint IBM Developer
[19:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights
[19:24] activelow Miguel de Icaza wrote midnight commander
[19:24] DaemonFC And he goes, "Oh yeah, let's just sell our souls and work for Satan because it's easier that way.".
[19:24] schestowitz-TR2 DaemonFC: useful idiots of corporations lack a sense of humour
[19:25] schestowitz-TR2 it takes some intellect and take and absorb sarcasm
[19:25] schestowitz-TR2 and then use sarcasm in twitter, out of context, to make slanderous claims
[19:26] schestowitz activelow: started by him
[19:26] DaemonFC When I compared mjg59 to the Candyman the other day, I was just making a joke. He does not, I repeat not, show up and accuse you of being a transphobe if you look in a mirror and say his name three times.
[19:26] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander
[19:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Midnight Commander - Wikipedia
[19:26] DaemonFC I hope that clears up any confusion.
[19:26] schestowitz "] It was started by Miguel de Icaza in 1994[1] as a clone of the then-popular Norton Commander."
[19:26] schestowitz I loved Norton Commander.
[19:26] MinceR DaemonFC: how can you tell? have you tried?
[19:26] schestowitz years later he went to Microsoft
[19:26] schestowitz looking fora job
[19:26] schestowitz he met the crook who now calls himself "CEO" of ShitHub
[19:27] activelow midnight commander is the most comfortable file system explorer
[19:27] schestowitz the biggest attack on Free software
[19:27] DaemonFC MinceR, That's a chance I don't want to take.
[19:27] schestowitz they're been attacking us since then, circa 1997
[19:27] MinceR :>
[19:27] DaemonFC I might have to pry him off my leg if he appears and there's no witnesses.
[19:27] schestowitz activelow: not true
[19:27] schestowitz there are other NC clones
[19:27] schestowitz many for gnu/linux
[19:27] schestowitz konqueror also has a mode for it
[19:28] schestowitz krusader too
[19:28] DaemonFC After all, anyone can be a rapist if there aren't witnesses to say it "didn't" happen.
[19:28] MinceR can you recommend good ones?
[19:28] MinceR on terminal
[19:28] activelow schestowitz: you have no clue of what you're talking about
[19:28] schestowitz I do
[19:28] schestowitz I used NC a lot
[19:28] activelow and particularly the qt ones are bad choice
[19:28] schestowitz even in the GUI era of 1990s
[19:28] schestowitz activelow: that's another issue
[19:28] schestowitz you dislike qt
[19:28] schestowitz which is understandable
[19:29] DaemonFC can you recommend good ones?
[19:29] schestowitz NC has many ncurses clones, too
[19:29] DaemonFC Witnesses against a rape allegation?
[19:29] DaemonFC Whoever you can be in the room with, I suppose.
[19:29] MinceR nc clones that have TUI
[19:29] DaemonFC Except Garrett.
[19:31] DaemonFC This is literally how witch hunts happened.
[19:31] techrights-news Disclosure missing; LF pays them to write these puff pieces https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/open-source-community-shifts-left-with-openssf-google-slsa/2021/10/
[19:31] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: sdxcentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.sdxcentral.com/articles/news/open-source-community-shifts-left-with-openssf-google-slsa/2021/10/
[19:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Source Community Shifts Left With OpenSSF, Google SLSA - SDxCentral
[19:31] DaemonFC You know, people like Garrett go "Do you think rapists should be punished?", and you answer, "Sure, if there's enough evidence and they get their fair trial and...." and then he says "HAH! RAPE APOLOGIST RAPE CULTURE!!!!!!!111111one".
[19:32] DaemonFC The default assumption on crime used to be that you were innocent by default, on all charges, and the state had a hill to climb.
[19:32] activelow DaemonFC: you're confusing me
[19:32] techrights-news Clown native... more buzzwords to compensate for a lack of substance https://linuxsecurity.com/features/open-source-tool-of-the-month-uptycs-addresses-modern-cloud-native-containerization-security-challenges-with-its-uptycs-security-analytics-platform
[19:32] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxsecurity.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxsecurity.com/features/open-source-tool-of-the-month-uptycs-addresses-modern-cloud-native-containerization-security-challenges-with-its-uptycs-security-analytics-platform
[19:32] DaemonFC And now with all of these "Welcome to CostCo, I love you!" people on the jury, it's not such a hill anymore.
[19:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxsecurity.com | Features: Lead Cloud-Native Security Analytics Engineer Shares Top ...
[19:33] DaemonFC bbiab
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[19:34] techrights-news #linuxfoundation uses MILITARY terms to describe computer training https://www.fosslife.org/linux-foundation-offers-new-devops-bootcamp this is what happens when you're fronting for companies that BOMB for profit http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/
[19:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Linux Foundation Offers New DevOps Bootcamp
[19:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lets Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away Peoples Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb in Peace) | Techrights
[19:36] techrights-news September: #LinuxFoundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New 'Research' (Marketing) http://techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/ #Techrights #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/23/lf-diploma-mill-and-narrative-control-by-fake-research/
[19:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation and Other Diploma Mills Say Theres Demand for Their Products in Their New Research (Marketing) | Techrights
[19:37] schestowitz January: The #LinuxFoundation , With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit http://techrights.org/2021/01/25/linux-foundation-training-and-certifications/ #Techrights #Linux #FreeSW
[19:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation, With Over 124 Million Dollars in Annual Revenue, is in Trouble Because of the Pandemic, So Its Trying to Reinvent Itself as Training and Certifications Outfit | Techrights
[19:41] activelow anyway, richard stallman reaches retirement age, and should he and will he support anyone to lead FSF and/or GNU?
[19:42] MinceR does it matter?
[19:42] MinceR will the FSF ever stand for free software?
[19:42] MinceR will GNU come back from the dead?
[19:42] *psydruid wants Rudolph the Reindeer to lead the GNUs
[19:46] schestowitz-TR2 Trump's lawyer?
[19:46] schestowitz-TR2 he's disbarred
[19:46] schestowitz-TR2 and his lawyers don't know how AGPL works
[19:50] techrights-news Handling of user input in #geminiProtocol (better clarity) https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007437.html
[19:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | [spec] Undefined status codes
[19:52] techrights-news Selling #suse using buzzwords https://www.ksnblocal4.com/prnewswire/2021/10/26/suse-expands-computing-possibilities-beyond-edge-with-suse-linux-enterprise-micro-51/
[19:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ksnblocal4.com | SUSE Expands Computing Possibilities Beyond the Edge with SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1
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[19:55] MinceR though i guess there is something that depends on that after all
[19:55] techrights-news #patent pool of #SoftwarePatents does not actually tackle the threat #freesw faces when it comes to #swpats but this is what IBM et al want https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/10/26/2320297/0/en/YADRO-Joins-the-Open-Invention-Network-Community.html
[19:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | YADRO Joins the Open Invention Network Community
[19:55] MinceR and that is whether ibm and microsoft will manage to turn the FSF from an apathetic, defunct organization into an actively anti-free software outfit
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 they try...
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 do what we say, OR ELSE
[19:57] MinceR indeed
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 RMS has balls of steel or HAD them
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 so he could say no
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 now, go to stallman.org
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 he walks on eggshells
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 his whole tone changes
[19:57] schestowitz-TR2 like he's afraid of being 'canceled' again for something out of context
[19:58] schestowitz-TR2 or unpopular view
[19:58] schestowitz-TR2 I bet FSF checked all the things he writes them for (pre)approval
[19:58] schestowitz-TR2 IIRC that was one condition
[19:58] schestowitz-TR2 so it's RMS lite
[19:58] schestowitz-TR2 pre-filtered
[19:58] schestowitz-TR2 (which also leads to self-censorship)
[19:59] activelow no offense intended, and i am not saying rms should or should be retired, but at a certain age he must think of the future of the organization
[19:59] activelow when he cannot serve with his prominent appearance anymore
[19:59] schestowitz-TR2 better to stay there till the end
[19:59] schestowitz-TR2 seeing what happened to EFF
[19:59] schestowitz-TR2 whose other co-founder just left
● Oct 26
[20:00] schestowitz-TR2 Gillmore
[20:00] schestowitz-TR2 some good people still at eff
[20:00] schestowitz-TR2 but it's generally run by too many fools
[20:00] schestowitz-TR2 that's probably why he left
[20:00] activelow Torvalds argued he preferred to talk to EFF instead of FSF
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 yes, that is Torvalds
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 when he said this in debconf he was confronted
[20:01] activelow not sure why, according to him, there was some lunatics at work in FSF
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 but EFF does not care about software freedom
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 well, neither does Linus
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 or Linux
[20:01] MinceR or freedom
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: that's Torvalds' ego
[20:01] schestowitz-TR2 he wants people to still think everything started in 1991
[20:02] schestowitz-TR2 it helps him get more money and fame
[20:02] activelow wasn't aware he ever argued anything
[20:02] activelow minix predates linux, that's fact, and did torvalds ever oppose that?
[20:03] activelow maybe, to prevent harm, with regards to legal battles, and SCO.
[20:03] activelow however, this is past.
[20:03] techrights-news Digest of #YaST Development Sprints 133 & 134 https://yast.opensuse.org/blog/2021-10-26/sprints-133-134 #suse #opensuse #gnu #linux
[20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yast.opensuse.org | Digest of YaST Development Sprints 133 & 134 | YaST
[20:03] activelow sure, unix predates both minix and linux, anyway.
[20:04] activelow would be interesting too, who should replace torvalds and gkh, once they retire, and which the master branch will be then
[20:04] MinceR i doubt it matters
[20:05] MinceR anyone who understood that tumor of bloat either left, got blackmailed, or became a microsoft/ibm drone on their own
[20:05] techrights-news Meike Chabowski on formats of #documentation files in #SUSE https://www.suse.com/c/document-formats-there-is-choice/
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[20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Document formats There is choice | SUSE Communities
[20:05] MinceR apparently there's nobody left who can and wants to save Linux from its doom
[20:06] techrights-news Master-Slave replication with #MariaDB https://unixcop.com/master-slave_replication_with_mariadb/ #db
[20:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Master-Slave replication with MariaDB - Unixcop
[20:06] schestowitz-TR2 MinceR: oliva?
[20:06] MinceR does oliva understand much of the Linux source?
[20:06] schestowitz-TR2 some
[20:06] schestowitz-TR2 nobody knows much of it
[20:07] schestowitz-TR2 it's far too big
[20:07] schestowitz-TR2 good luck studying 500,000 LOCs of graphics drivers
[20:07] schestowitz-TR2 with cryptic variable names for some GPU things
[20:07] MinceR can he get those currently serving the LDF to contribute to his fork instead?
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[20:11] techrights-news I vomit a little in my mouth when I read the headline with "Open Invention Network Community" in it. What COMMUNITY? You're JOKING!!! It's like a corporation run by corporate raiders. Should be renamed #Openwashing #Patents Network
[20:12] psydruid I understood parts of the Linux code in the 2.6 days, but I really don't know much about what has changed since
[20:13] techrights-news #FFII = we abolish nukes. #OIN = we amass more nukes. The "good" nukes. OUR nukes! #patents #swpats #antiwar
[20:14] psydruid some books have been written since and I have never read them
[20:15] techrights-news Before Brian Profitt joined #redhat (now #ibm ... a long way from IBM-sponsored #linuxtoday ... by ads -- Profitt was editor there) the #linuxfoundation hired him to create a sort of Mozilla MDN but for Linux. Of course Zemlin and his NSA/monopoly bois abolished all that. Same in LF Board. #microsoft added... they're OK, community bad!
[20:16] *activelow tries to recover from java still
[20:16] activelow too much chaos
[20:16] activelow tired of this
[20:16] psydruid I haven't kept up after reading a book about new features in Java 9
[20:16] psydruid now they are at 17
[20:16] activelow only hacked my cipher/hash/rng into kernel, and other minor patches for things i want
[20:17] psydruid I don't know what all of this feature churn is about
[20:17] techrights-news Artificially creating #monopolies is very expensive. But US "defense" (misnomer; domination, imperialism) budget has created some at the expense of about 25 trillion dollars since 9/11. Now they just call it "Debt".
[20:17] psydruid it's become like web programming
[20:17] schestowitz-TR2 'web'
[20:17] psydruid yes
[20:17] schestowitz-TR2 more like programming for a brwoser
[20:17] schestowitz-TR2 the 'web' is just the bus
[20:18] activelow with java i remember two new features: generics with version 1.5, and some recent trend was aspect oriented programming
[20:18] schestowitz-TR2 input-over-tls
[20:18] activelow i'll not touch java again, never. (same with .net, of cause)
[20:18] *psydruid is waiting for someone to be thrown under the bus
[20:19] techrights-news Full Circle Weekly News #233 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-233/ #gnu #linux
[20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #233 | Full Circle Magazine
[20:20] activelow i think, with high level programming languages, there is rarely need for anything else than C, Perl(sh), Python
[20:20] activelow in fact, i think, any other high level programming language is a waste of time
[20:21] activelow maybe Vala, but this is to closely related to Gnome wrongdoings
[20:22] techrights-news #ibm looking for #slave labour in universities for PR gains https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/the-global-challenge-university-edition-top-teams/
[20:22] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/the-global-challenge-university-edition-top-teams/
[20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | The Global Challenge University Edition top teams IBM Developer
[20:22] activelow and of cause some markup (TeX, html4 loose), sql
[20:22] activelow that's it
[20:23] activelow i am not at least convinced about XML/XSD, in practice, i mean, and IBM/MS/SAP/Oracle must have wasted billions for this
[20:23] techrights-news Racist #ibm conflates #consumerism with #ethics https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/honestly-leads-consumers-to-more-ethical-purchases/ http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism
[20:23] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/honestly-leads-consumers-to-more-ethical-purchases/
[20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Honestly leads consumers to more ethical purchases IBM Developer
[20:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights
[20:24] psydruid wasting billions causing competitors to go out of business because they can't keep up?
[20:24] psydruid maybe it was a business decision
[20:24] techrights-news #ibm pretending to care about poor people and access to #water while its chips and hardware design/manufacturing basically drain whole reservoir (Intel's also) https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/saaf-water-provides-insights-for-safe-water-consumption/
[20:24] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ibm.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/saaf-water-provides-insights-for-safe-water-consumption/
[20:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Saaf Water provides insights for safe water consumption IBM Developer
[20:25] techrights-news #ibm wants people to think that it's some kind of charity. Same thing #microsoft and #billgates do... until you dig a little deeper https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
[20:25] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-bill-gates.html
[20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Bill Gates Met With Jeffrey Epstein Many Times, Despite His Past - The New York Times
[20:26] activelow psydruid: certainly alot of this short-lived bloatware dosn't belong into university lectures
[20:27] schestowitz-TR2 they teach GUIs
[20:27] schestowitz-TR2 memorising tem
[20:27] schestowitz-TR2 "ready for industry"
[20:27] activelow where?
[20:27] schestowitz-TR2 SAP?
[20:28] activelow microsoft has some offerings, for their certification programs, what a glory
[20:28] activelow wouldn't know this nonsense arrived at universities
[20:29] techrights-news On television streaming boxes and streaming disservices. - BaronHKs Rants https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/10/26/on-television-streaming-boxes-and-streaming-disservices/ " #Netflix relies on people forgetting to cancel it, but also not watching much of anything"
[20:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | On television streaming boxes and streaming disservices. BaronHK's Rants
[20:29] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: they teach old things
[20:29] activelow who?
[20:29] schestowitz-TR2 by the time you memorise things they've already changed
[20:29] schestowitz-TR2 it's pointless
[20:29] schestowitz-TR2 universities
[20:30] schestowitz-TR2 teaching Brands(R)
[20:30] schestowitz-TR2 rather than concepts
[20:30] schestowitz-TR2 even Java(TM)
[20:30] schestowitz-TR2 they could teach C/C++
[20:30] schestowitz-TR2 even bash
[20:30] activelow no C++
[20:30] schestowitz-TR2 C++ takes much time to learn because of APIs
[20:31] schestowitz-TR2 you need to learn what libraries have in them
[20:31] schestowitz-TR2 otherwise you reinvent the wheel
[20:31] techrights-news xkcd: Slope Hypothesis Testing https://xkcd.com/2533/ #xkcd
[20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Slope Hypothesis Testing
[20:31] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: xkcd.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://xkcd.com/2533/
[20:31] techrights-news Richard Stallman: "This article argues for denying people help for suicide on the ground that inadequate support for sick people would drive them to choose death." https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#26_October_2021_%28Denying_people_help_for_suicide%29
[20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[20:32] psydruid activelow, I am using C++ for a course and have caught up a bit with its modern features, but all this feature churn is draining me
[20:32] techrights-news 2010: @glynmoody open...: Richard Stallman: "I Wished I Had Killed Myself" https://opendotdotdot.blogspot.com/2010/04/richard-stallman-i-wished-i-had-killed.html #opendotdotdot
[20:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opendotdotdot.blogspot.com | open...: Richard Stallman: "I Wished I Had Killed Myself"
[20:33] activelow forgot Lisp, no offense, depends if Lisp was high level programming language or not
[20:33] techrights-news Joe #Manchin Fights to Keep Subsidies for #FossilFuel Industry https://theintercept.com/2021/10/22/manchin-climate-fossil-fuel-subsidies-reconciliation/ #theintercept #omidyarPAC
[20:33] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2021/10/22/manchin-climate-fossil-fuel-subsidies-reconciliation/
[20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | Joe Manchin Fights to Keep Subsidies for Fossil Fuel Industry
[20:34] techrights-news #proprietarySoftware https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ics/advisories/icsa-21-299-01
[20:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-us-cert.cisa.gov | Fuji Electric Tellus Lite V-Simulator and V-Server Lite | CISA
[20:35] techrights-news Released: #MITRE ATT&CK v10 - Help Net Security https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2021/10/22/mitre-attck-v10/ #helpnetsecurity
[20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.helpnetsecurity.com | Released: MITRE ATT&CK v10 - Help Net Security
[20:36] techrights-news #Vietnam : Immediately release #PhamDoanTrang https://www.accessnow.org/vietnam-release-pham-doan-trang/ #accessnow
[20:36] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/vietnam-release-pham-doan-trang/
[20:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Vietnam: Immediately release Pham Doan Trang
[20:37] techrights-news Digital rights champions nominated to lead U.S. #FCC and #NTIA - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/biden-fcc-ntia-nominations/ #accessnow on the person who (from what I've read elsewhere for years) is mostly "OK"
[20:37] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/biden-fcc-ntia-nominations/
[20:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Digital rights champions nominated to lead U.S. FCC and NTIA - Access Now
[20:38] techrights-news "A plan devised by the Canadian Joint Operations Command relied on propaganda techniques similar to those employed during the Afghanistan war." #Misinformation #Disinformation #military #occupation #covid19 https://ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/military-leaders-saw-pandemic-as-unique-opportunity-to-test-propaganda-techniques-on-canadians-forces-report-says
[20:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ottawacitizen.com | Military leaders saw pandemic as opportunity to test propaganda techniques, report says | Ottawa Citizen
[20:39] techrights-news When #London is in Ruins: Gustave Dors *The New Zealander* (1872) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/dore-new-zealander/ #publicdomainreview #publicdomain
[20:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | When London is in Ruins: Gustave Dors *The New Zealander* (1872) The Public Domain Review
[20:41] techrights-news RMS on "whether the US can prosecute journalists and news publishers for "espionage" and entirely disregard the public's right to know." #assange #wikileaks #warCrimes #freePress https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#26_October_2021_%28Anti-war_journalism%29
[20:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman
[20:42] techrights-news File under #microsoft and #github (they profit from this) https://theintercept.com/2021/10/23/ice-review-neglect-stewart-suicide-corecivic/
[20:42] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: theintercept.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://theintercept.com/2021/10/23/ice-review-neglect-stewart-suicide-corecivic/
[20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theintercept.com | ICE Review of Immigrant Suicide Finds Gross Neglect
[20:42] techrights-news Iranian women journalists, imprisoned journalists mother jailed arbitrarily https://rsf.org/en/news/iranian-women-journalists-imprisoned-journalists-mother-jailed-arbitrarily #iran #rsf
[20:42] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: rsf.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rsf.org/en/news/iranian-women-journalists-imprisoned-journalists-mother-jailed-arbitrarily
[20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rsf.org | Iranian women journalists, imprisoned journalists mother jailed arbitrarily | RSF
[20:43] techrights-news Hollywoods love of guns increases the risk of shootings both on and off the set https://theconversation.com/hollywoods-love-of-guns-increases-the-risk-of-shootings-both-on-and-off-the-set-170489
[20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | Hollywood's love of guns increases the risk of shootings both on and off the set
[20:44] scientes I run with javascript.wasm set to false
[20:44] scientes its not like minified javascript is much better
[20:44] scientes but the "web browser" as a glorified virtual machine is really not a good idea
[20:46] techrights-news Drawing Robot Creates Portraits Using Pen, Paper And Algorithms | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/drawing-robot-creates-portraits-using-pen-paper-and-algorithms/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/26/#latest
[20:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Drawing Robot Creates Portraits Using Pen, Paper And Algorithms | Hackaday
[20:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[20:47] techrights-news #greenwashing #pollution with help from media. All these "green" cars aren't green, neither to manufacture nor to operate. Yuppie pipe dream, like edible drinking straws. https://hackaday.com/2021/10/26/being-green-its-a-rich-mans-game/
[20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Being Green, Its A Rich Mans Game | Hackaday
[20:48] psydruid unless you have beefy cores in your machine(s) modern bloated web browsers are unusably slow
[20:48] techrights-news #ibm #redhat trying to sell something "clown" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/do-host-firewalls-matter-cloud-deployments
[20:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Do host firewalls matter in cloud deployments?
[20:49] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: that's what the cores are for
[20:49] schestowitz-TR2 for reading an article :-)
[20:49] psydruid yeah
[20:49] scientes schestowitz-TR2, firefox runs on A53s too
[20:49] psydruid :D
[20:49] scientes in-order CPUs
[20:49] scientes for reading an article :-)
[20:49] scientes yes
[20:50] schestowitz-TR2 the guardian article
[20:50] psydruid on most of my machines I stick to Falkon and Lagrange
[20:50] schestowitz-TR2 system requirements: 128 MB of RAM
[20:51] schestowitz-TR2 system recommendation: 4GB of RAM
[20:51] scientes isn't electron the future of computing?
[20:51] schestowitz-TR2 for 5 paragraphs of text
[20:51] schestowitz-TR2 and sometimes, just sometimes, one image
[20:53] techrights-news Trump's Truth Social beta site violates open source license http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157078#comment-31541
[20:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trump's Social Media Platform and the Affero General Public License (of Mastodon) | Tux Machines
[20:53] scientes wow
[20:54] scientes I just installed a javascript GUI .deb that was less than 1MB
[20:54] scientes and works quite nicely
[20:54] scientes if you just don't use electron
[20:54] scientes and instead use gnome's javascript stuff
[20:54] techrights-news I've removed #fedora from my RSS feeds. It's too dead now. Nothing happens. #ibm nearly killed it completely. All I get is stuff about hats.
[20:55] scientes techrights-news, have you seen their web site?
[20:55] scientes its barren
[20:55] scientes Embrace, Extend, Extinguish
[20:56] techrights-news Telling me #fedora is not dead is like telling me #centos isn't dead. Yes, technically they're not dead, not officially. #ibm wants everyone to buy #rhel subs. Of course IBM managers have NO CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!! That's why Jim AllowHurst left.
[20:56] scientes technically they're not dead
[20:57] schestowitz-TR2 they languish
[20:57] schestowitz-TR2 the community is gone
[20:57] scientes they have been hit by a semi-truck at 120km/hr, they are in a coma
[20:57] schestowitz-TR2 not merely stagnant
[20:57] scientes but I am glad to report: they are NOT dead yet
[20:57] scientes schestowitz-TR2, a big part of it is that moore's laaw ended
[20:57] schestowitz-TR2 scientes: which site?
[20:57] schestowitz-TR2 guardian?
[20:58] schestowitz-TR2 they have js-free fallback
[20:58] schestowitz-TR2 but they still do tone of spying
[20:58] schestowitz-TR2 like 70 trakers per page
[20:58] schestowitz-TR2 *trackers
[20:58] techrights-news Were not in Ubuntu Anymore: The Linux Distros Youve (Probably) Never Heard About Before http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157213 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We're not in Ubuntu Anymore: The Linux Distros You've (Probably) Never Heard About Before | Tux Machines
[20:58] scientes but Fedora was also dead-ish
[20:58] scientes it had been taken over by ricers
[20:58] techrights-news #OVPN-Admin is a Simple Web UI to Manage OpenVPN Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157214 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OVPN-Admin is a Simple Web UI to Manage OpenVPN Users | Tux Machines
[20:59] scientes *always
[20:59] techrights-news #Authelia : Open-source SSO Single Sign-on for enterprise http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157215 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[20:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Authelia: Open-source SSO Single Sign-on for enterprise | Tux Machines
[20:59] scientes like how they default to btrfs when nobody really likes that filesystem
[20:59] schestowitz-TR2 scientes: no, it was always like this
[20:59] schestowitz-TR2 even in Feodra Core 1+2 days
[20:59] scientes cause Debian has never been a ricer OS
[20:59] schestowitz-TR2 very geeky geeks who had used gnu/linux since the 90s
[20:59] scientes and Red Hat was not either
[20:59] schestowitz-TR2 like max spavack or whatever
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[21:00] schestowitz-TR2 [20:59] like how they default to btrfs when nobody really likes that filesystem
[21:00] schestowitz-TR2 that's fedora as an experiment
[21:00] schestowitz-TR2 see how people react
[21:00] schestowitz-TR2 get some bug reports filed
[21:00] techrights-news #SUSE / #OpenSUSE: Digest of YaST Development Sprints, SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1, and Documentation by Meike Chabowski http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157216 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SUSE/OpenSUSE: Digest of YaST Development Sprints, SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1, and Documentation by Meike Chabowski | Tux Machines
[21:01] techrights-news From guix environment to guix shell http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157217 #GNU #guix #TuxMachines
[21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | From guix environment to guix shell | Tux Machines
[21:01] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157218 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[21:02] MinceR get people to pay for rHELL so it isn't the default? :>
[21:03] scientes now that they got systemd planted they don't have to care about community building hahahahahahaha
[21:03] MinceR :>
[21:04] techrights-news #Intel Core i9 11900K: Five Linux Distros Show Sizable Lead Over #Vista10 With a New Skin http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157219 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel Core i9 11900K: Five Linux Distros Show Sizable Lead Over Windows 11 | Tux Machines
[21:05] scientes techrights-news, any theory about where the #fedora people went?
[21:05] schestowitz-TR2 I heard gentoo got tons of new devs
[21:05] schestowitz-TR2 like 40% more
[21:06] scientes hmmm
[21:06] scientes i would have thought ArchLinux
[21:06] scientes they have the best technical documentation these days
[21:06] scientes for a long time
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[21:06] schestowitz-TR2 maybe arch also
[21:06] *leah (~leah@wrh2nipuzrd3y.irc) has joined #techrights
[21:06] schestowitz-TR2 maybe ask around
[21:06] schestowitz-TR2 the fedora volunteers know each other
[21:06] scientes I avoid them because I believe in source packages
[21:06] scientes Arch just grabs shit off the internet at build time
[21:07] schestowitz-TR2 so does activelow
[21:07] schestowitz-TR2 the first bit
[21:07] schestowitz-TR2 not the latest line from you
[21:07] scientes "activelow"?
[21:08] techrights-news "Temple computing"? It is a religion now like #clowncomputing (devout believers in #nsa accessing everything)? https://ubuntu.com//blog/in-defence-of-pet-servers
[21:08] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: ubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/in-defence-of-pet-servers
[21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In defence of pet servers | Ubuntu
[21:10] techrights-news "Meson is a source package build system. EasyOS has version 0.53.0, however, I wanted to compile the latest 'pipewire' package and it requires meson version 0.54.0 or later." #meson and #puppylinux / #easyos need to #deletegithub https://bkhome.org/news/202110/meson-version-bumped-to-0592.html
[21:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Meson version bumped to 0.59.2
[21:10] techrights-news #RaspberryPi CM4 powered industrial mini-PC is loaded with options http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157220 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[21:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Raspberry Pi CM4 powered industrial mini-PC is loaded with options | Tux Machines
[21:13] techrights-news #geminiProtocol now in #usenet / #nntp / #newsgroups "The newsgroup went live yesterday. If your favorite Usenet server isn't currently carrying it, please poke them or direct them to my group: board at big-8.org." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007446.html
[21:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup is up!
[21:17] activelow misunderstanding schestowitz-TR2: i do not necessarily prefer source packages, i *reject* systems which discourage a source-based workflow, such as RPM and APT
[21:19] techrights-news This chart from the #uk government is misleading (they've just resigned the official site). https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/downloads/homepage/2021-10-26/vaccinations/overview/K02000001_thumbnail.svg in reality, it should show about 25% of the population got no #covid19 shots at all.
[21:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/downloads/homepage/2021-10-26/vaccinations/overview/K02000001_thumbnail.svg )
[21:19] schestowitz-TR2 activelow: thanks for clarifying
[21:20] techrights-news Building A Water Rocket That Lands Via Parachute | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/building-a-water-rocket-that-lands-via-parachute/#comments #hackaday
[21:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building A Water Rocket That Lands Via Parachute | Hackaday
[21:21] techrights-news Mr. bean: #facebook crapware and bloat, no thanks! https://dev.to/sankalpswami1122/5-tools-that-have-made-react-documentation-a-piece-of-cake-2750
[21:21] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: dev.to | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dev.to/sankalpswami1122/5-tools-that-have-made-react-documentation-a-piece-of-cake-2750
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[21:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dev.to | 5 Open Source tools for Documenting your React Component - DEV Community
[21:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 31.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 7.16 swarm size (avg): 259.85
[21:23] techrights-news Shoddy #openwashing by Intel with "hey hi" thrown into the big for hype or good measure https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/25/intel_controlflag/ #deletegithub http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
[21:23] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2021/10/25/intel_controlflag/
[21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Intel open-sources ControlFlag tool to find errors in code The Register
[21:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
[21:24] MinceR https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/funny-internet-comments-10-1-21/
[21:24] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/2021/10/01/funny-internet-comments-10-1-21/
[21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | The Best Comments On The Interwebs This Week (21 Pics)
[21:24] techrights-news #gnu #linux inside suftboards https://hackaday.com/2021/10/25/surf-sensor-adds-depth-to-finding-the-ultimate-wave/
[21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Surf Sensor Adds Depth To Finding The Ultimate Wave | Hackaday
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[21:27] techrights-news #openwashing #ibm #redhat ... "Open Organization Ambassador".. wait, are you Open Organization Ambassador "100% of the time"??? https://opensource.com/open-organization/21/10/open-management-vulnerability
[21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When leading openly means leading with vulnerability | Opensource.com
[21:28] techrights-news " #KaliLinux is a useful helper in many situations: It contains a number of hacking tools that you can try out immediately." https://marketresearchtelecast.com/hacking-tools-set-up-the-hacking-stick-with-kali-linux/187179/
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[21:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-marketresearchtelecast.com | Hacking tools: Set up the hacking stick with Kali Linux - Market Research Telecast
[21:29] techrights-news Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn #Bash - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-bash/ #LinuxLinks #GNU #Linux #programming
[21:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Bash - LinuxLinks
[21:31] techrights-news Well, seems like #containerjournal is shilling #microsoft #proprietarySoftware garbage with #nsa back doors. Says a lot about Container Journal... bad actors putting you inside their container https://containerjournal.com/features/devops-needs-sql-server-containers-for-windows/
[21:31] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: containerjournal.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://containerjournal.com/features/devops-needs-sql-server-containers-for-windows/
[21:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-containerjournal.com | DevOps Needs SQL Server Containers for Windows - Container Journal
[21:32] techrights-news #RaspberryPi CM4 based PiBox 2 Mini serves as NAS, private Cloud storage (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/26/raspberry-pi-cm4-based-pibox-2-mini-serves-as-nas-private-cloud-storage/ #Linux #GNU #Hardware #cnxsoftware
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[21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Raspberry Pi CM4 based PiBox 2 Mini serves as NAS, private Cloud storage (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software
[21:33] techrights-news Do they have to rename the book to avoid offending #ibm and #microsoft claim exist? https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/mastering-linux-administration-book-review see http://techrights.org/2021/02/23/minds-of-profound-racists/
[21:33] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxandubuntu.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/mastering-linux-administration-book-review
[21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxandubuntu.com | Mastering Linux Administration - Book Review
[21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Word Master is Not Problematic in Most Contexts and Its Origin Hasnt a Connection to Slavery | Techrights
[21:35] techrights-news #GAFAM #listeningDevices aren't novel. The #nsa agenda of bugs in every home for #espionage and leverage is what's new https://hackaday.com/2021/10/26/classic-80s-text-to-speech-on-classic-80s-hardware/
[21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Classic 80s Text-To-Speech On Classic 80s Hardware | Hackaday
[21:37] techrights-news You can feel sorry for people who put #listeningDevices everywhere but are right to feel angry when they direct these at you. #google went the furthest with its (what I've long called) #CCTVGlasses almost a decade ago.
[21:38] techrights-news To companies like #google we are the mice, the web is the maze, the advertisers are the trap, and Gulag/NSA is the master of the laboratory
[21:39] techrights-news Board have becoming smaller than minuscule batteries https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/26/usb-board-emulates-cr2032-or-cr2016-coin-cell-battery/
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[21:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | USB board emulates CR2032 or CR2016 coin cell battery - CNX Software
[21:40] techrights-news #AVA Developer Platform offers 32 #64bit Arm cores, 32GB RAM, 10GbE for $5,450 - CNX Software https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/26/ava-developer-platform-32-64-bit-arm-cores-32gb-ram-10gbe/ #Linux #GNU
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[21:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | AVA Developer Platform offers 32 64-bit Arm cores, 32GB RAM, 10GbE for $5,450 - CNX Software
[21:40] schestowitz psydruid: ^
[21:41] schestowitz a liiiiitle expensive
[21:41] schestowitz just a little
[21:42] techrights-news Floating Panels in Plasma, Making Of, Part 3! - Kockatoo Tube https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/io9cT9cGuDtDzPnhWzfVoH #kde #gnu #linux
[21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Floating Panels in Plasma, Making Of, Part 3! - Kockatoo Tube
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[21:44] techrights-news #GNU #Linux Application Ecosystem 2021 Changsha https://blog.brsvh.org/posts/linux-application-ecosystem-2021-changsha/
[21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.brsvh.org | Linux Application Ecosystem 2021 Changsha :: BSCLOG
[21:46] activelow "750watt power supply"
[21:51] psydruid schestowitz, it shouldn't be that expensive, but I think other things are at play here too
[21:52] psydruid I've explained to someone I talk to quite often that for non-x86 hardware to really thrive x86 must die first
[21:52] psydruid there is a whole industry that tries to retain the status quo
[21:53] psydruid more vendors with more competition should drive the price down like it did for x86 hardware
[21:53] schestowitz-TR2 I think this might be the sort of hardware Ariadne was alluding to the other day
[21:55] psydruid yes, but OpenPOWER is even more expensive
[21:55] schestowitz activelow: https://blog.broulik.de/2021/10/psa-plasma-browser-integration-currently-unavailable/
[21:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.broulik.de | PSA: Plasma Browser Integration Currently Unavailable Kai Uwe's Blog
[21:55] schestowitz browsers as part of the OS shell
[21:55] schestowitz lke chrome OS and Win98
[21:56] schestowitz psydruid: and it is not even open anymore
[21:56] techrights-news "After being picked up again earlier this year, the #KDEConnect iOS project is now moving towards public beta testing with TestFlight to collect more user feedback and problem reports as the project inches further towards a full release sometime in the (near?) future." https://students.washington.edu/zxlwang/
[21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-students.washington.edu | lucaswangzx_xyz
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[21:58] techrights-news #qt has begun blogging just like ordinary #proprietarySoftware vendors https://www.qt.io/blog/user-interface-design-for-smart-appliances
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[21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | UIUX Trends for Appliances & Electronics Product Lines
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[22:00] techrights-news #canonical still trying to look like "community while pushing #microsoft #wsl and other #windows stuff https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Feedback-For-Ubuntu-22.04-LTS see http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/
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[22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canonical Looking For Community Feedback As Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Development Begins - Phoronix
[22:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights
[22:02] techrights-news What good is #clownflare as #cdn when sites slow down when I link to them despite Clownflare serving the pages (likely throttling). More more like a #Surveillance initiative and we know who stands to benefit.
[22:02] techrights-news "Ubuntu should not listen to uninformed, opinionated users and take their feedback from experts..." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1286670-canonical-looking-for-community-feedback-as-ubuntu-22-04-lts-development-begins
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[22:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canonical Looking For Community Feedback As Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Development Begins - Phoronix Forums
[22:03] techrights-news "Ok, can you explain to me how to remove the chromium-browser snap and install the .deb version? Because that would be great." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1286670-canonical-looking-for-community-feedback-as-ubuntu-22-04-lts-development-begins
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[22:04] psydruid qt scares you with licensing issues when you attend their "meet" events
[22:05] techrights-news "A new pull request is pending for implementing multi-queue block (blk-mq) support within OpenZFS' Zvol code, which can lead to sizable performance benefits." #openzfs needs to #deletegithub to justify the "open". #github is malicious #proprietarySoftware https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OpenZFS-Zvol-BLK-MQ-PR
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[22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BLK-MQ Support For OpenZFS Pending As Latest Performance Optimization - Phoronix
[22:05] schestowitz-TR2 psydruid: they use "open" as bait
[22:05] psydruid and when you ask them about KDE it's as if you just said a dirty word
[22:06] techrights-news #AMDGPU DP 2.0 MST Support Sent In For DRM-Next - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-DP-2.0-MST-PR #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/10/26/#latest
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[22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMDGPU DP 2.0 MST Support Sent In For DRM-Next - Phoronix
[22:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts
[22:07] techrights-news #mozilla becoming #microsoft #proprietarySoftware garbage. "Recently, Ksenia (Mozilla Webcompat team) adjusted BugBug to make it work on GitHub." #firefox #deletegithub https://www.otsukare.info/2021/10/26/webcompat-automation
[22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.otsukare.info | Webcompat issues and the bots! - otsukare
[22:08] techrights-news Only yesterday: #Microsoft #GitHub Expos Part III A Story of Plagiarism and Likely Securities Fraud http://techrights.org/2021/10/25/github-series-outline/ #Techrights #GNU #deletegithub | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/25/github-series-outline/
[22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft GitHub Expos Part III A Story of Plagiarism and Likely Securities Fraud | Techrights
[22:09] activelow none of my concerns anymore, removed kde 4 years ago already, and finally wiped qt
[22:09] activelow got no time for this
[22:09] activelow gn
[22:10] schestowitz-TR2 nn
[22:10] techrights-news Seems like #proprietarySoftware trap, but they say "Linux" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/554751617/axle-ai-launches-connectr-2021-software-for-windows-mac-and-linux
[22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | Axle.ai Launches Connectr 2021 software for Windows, Mac and Linux - EIN Presswire
[22:13] techrights-news #mozilla proudly working for #regimechange -loving oligarchs now. Facepalm. I want to look AWAY... https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/10/26/mozilla-and-omidyar-network-launch-new-reimagine-open-initiative-powering-local-innovation-in-the-global-south/
[22:13] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/10/26/mozilla-and-omidyar-network-launch-new-reimagine-open-initiative-powering-local-innovation-in-the-global-south/
[22:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Mozilla and Omidyar Network launch new Reimagine Open initiative: Powering Local Innovation in the Global South - Open Policy & Advocacy
[22:14] techrights-news #mozilla has gone totally crazy. Are they planning to register the #firefox mark as a political party?
[22:15] techrights-news More #Microsoft #outsourcing of #firefox and #Mozilla doing politics with notorious oligarchs now. How far does Baker have to go before sacking by the Board?
[22:16] techrights-news The FACTS about GNOMEs plans for THEMES - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Pdx_MwcMtnM "Today, we're going to talk about GNOME. " #video #gnu #linux
[22:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The FACTS about GNOMEs plans for THEMES - Invidious
[22:17] techrights-news "The KDE Plasma pkgs were updated to 5.23.2 today. This is a bug fix release update to KDE Plasma 5." #pclos #pclinuxos #kde #gnu #linux https://www.pclinuxos.com/?p=5022
[22:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-KDE Plasma Update PCLinuxOS
[22:20] techrights-news Trumps #SocialControlMedia Violating #freesw Licence - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8AUNaJV6UKM more in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157078
[22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Trump's Social Media Violating Open Source License - Invidious
[22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Trump's Social Media Platform and the Affero General Public License (of Mastodon) | Tux Machines
[22:20] techrights-news Multiple Color Themes In #Dmenu And Other Programs - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Wv6SydEbBio #video #gnu #linux
[22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Multiple Color Themes In Dmenu And Other Programs - Invidious
[22:21] techrights-news Reviving Net::Pcap https://corion.net/blog/2021/10/26/reviving-net-pcap/ #perl #programming #pcap
[22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-corion.net | Reviving Net::Pcap - Corions Musings
[22:22] techrights-news This is what #mozilla #firefox became. Oligarchs-funded attempt to attract users based only on #politics https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/10/26/kuwezesha-uvumbuzi-wa-kiasilia-katika-ulimwengu-wa-kusini-matarajio-na-njia-ya-kusonga-mbele/
[22:22] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: mozilla.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/10/26/kuwezesha-uvumbuzi-wa-kiasilia-katika-ulimwengu-wa-kusini-matarajio-na-njia-ya-kusonga-mbele/
[22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Kuwezesha Uvumbuzi wa Kiasilia katika Ulimwengu wa Kusini: Matarajio na Njia ya Kusonga mbele - Open Policy & Advocacy
[22:24] techrights-news #google to Baker: HERE! Take $3,000,000 PER year and burn #mozilla as well as the #fireox brand to the ground within 3 years.
[22:24] techrights-news What you need to know about the #FacebookPapers - Access Now https://www.accessnow.org/facebook-papers-what-you-need-to-know/ #accessnow #Facebook
[22:24] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: accessnow.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/facebook-papers-what-you-need-to-know/
[22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | What you need to know about the Facebook Papers - Access Now
[22:26] techrights-news With #mozilla and #firefox being a lost cause, and with many sites 'optimised' only for #google connected (or controlled) browsers, it's time to get off the Web and explore #www alternatives such as #geminiProtocol
[22:27] techrights-news August: #Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays #Mozilla Management http://techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/ #Techrights #www #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/05/lousy-mozilla-management/
[22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Firefox Cannot be Trusted at the Hands of Todays Mozilla Management | Techrights
[22:30] techrights-news Intel AMX Support Appears Ready For Linux 5.16 - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-AMX-For-Linux-5.16 #intel hates #linux but finds it difficult to ignore it: http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks
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[22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel AMX Support Appears Ready For Linux 5.16 - Phoronix
[22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights
[22:32] techrights-news RPi #CM4 based local storage server launches on Kickstarter https://linuxgizmos.com/rpi-cm4-based-local-storage-server-launches-on-kickstarter/ #LinuxGizmos #Hardware #GNU #Linux
[22:32] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: linuxgizmos.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/rpi-cm4-based-local-storage-server-launches-on-kickstarter/
[22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/rpi-cm4-based-local-storage-server-launches-on-kickstarter/ )
[22:32] psydruid we should ask Intel to please ignore Linux
[22:32] schestowitz-TR2 but that'll kill em faster ;-)
[22:33] psydruid https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/25/allwinner-d1s-f133-risc-v-processor-64mb-ddr2/
[22:33] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: cnx-software.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/10/25/allwinner-d1s-f133-risc-v-processor-64mb-ddr2/
[22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Allwinner D1s/F133 RISC-V processor integrates 64MB DDR2 - CNX Software
[22:34] psydruid it's coming
[22:34] techrights-news "Disclosure: Couchbase, Datastax, MongoDB, Neo4J, QuestDB, Redis Labs and SingleStore are RedMonk clients" (forgot #microsoft ... also mentioned there) ... read as: we're 'analysts' at #redmonk and we take money for #marketing disguised as 'expert' advice https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2021/10/26/general-purpose-database/
[22:34] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: redmonk.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://redmonk.com/sogrady/2021/10/26/general-purpose-database/
[22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-redmonk.com | A Return to the General Purpose Database tecosystems
[22:35] techrights-news Also #redmonk : we analyse the market position of #microsoft based on data from... Microsoft (and yes, Microsoft pays us) ;-)
[22:36] techrights-news #microsoft : Analysts sell out - thats their business model But they are very concerned that they never look like they are selling out, so that makes them very prickly to work with. An internal document: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf
[22:37] techrights-news SuperSlicer Reviewed: Another 3DP Slicer? | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/10/26/superslicer-reviewed-another-3dp-slicer/ #hackaday | "The software runs on Windows, Linux, or Mac."
[22:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-SuperSlicer Reviewed: Another 3DP Slicer? | Hackaday
[22:39] techrights-news "This attractive beginner build is a Python-powered project that runs on a PyPortal Titano and has a speaker that anthropomorphizes the thing so it can berate you politely ask for water in English. But the real magic of this build is in the enclosure itself." https://hackaday.com/2021/10/26/smart-flower-pot-build-is-all-about-that-base/
[22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Smart Flower Pot Build Is All About That Base | Hackaday
[22:40] techrights-news Circa 2018: the year everything 'became' just 'smart' and 'Hey Hi'. 2013: everything is an "app", even old software we've long used (e.g. LibreOffice). 2008: every server is now known as "clown". Now they call #listeningdevices "assistants" (they don't say WHOSE).
[22:42] techrights-news "App" is a computer program that leaks out your data (usually in the name of "improving experience"... or something). It sure improves the workflows in spy agencies, I'm certain of that...
[22:43] techrights-news #HowTo Customize the #GNULinux Terminal Splash Screen https://www.makeuseof.com/customize-linux-terminal-splash-screen/ #makeuseof #gnu #linux
[22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Customize the Linux Terminal Splash Screen
[22:46] techrights-news Suppose you're an intel agency and you need moles: Adrian Lamo Project Vigilant Assistant Director Threat Analysis/Investigation 70 Bates Street Northwest Washington DC 20001. https://thecinemaholic.com/how-did-adrian-lamo-die/
[22:46] -altlink_a51/#techrights- Cloudflare: thecinemaholic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thecinemaholic.com/how-did-adrian-lamo-die/
[22:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecinemaholic.com | Adrian Lamo's Death: How Did the Hacker Die? Wikileaks Update
[22:49] techrights-news A story I heard more than 15 years ago from a friend (about his brother, who had freaked out): spy agencies like to recruit by blackmailing people. They put people in a "we send you the prison cell, or your work for us" position because it makes it a lot less likely they'll ever blow the whistle. That's how they pick up grey/whitehat hackers. Then they wear black hats for the government.
[22:50] techrights-news Some of the best paid crackers don't work for organised crime (underworld) gangs but for affluent governments (or in debt; "military" spendings), either directly or indirectly. Some aren't even aware of it because the salary comes from a private company.
[22:52] techrights-news "Some of these may apply to all laptops and some may be frame.work specific, but I thought I would throw them out there to help folks out." https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2021/10/26/some-quick-framework-laptop-power-saving-tips/
[22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scrye.com | Some quick framework laptop power saving tips Kevin's musings
[22:53] techrights-news Today, #ibm explains how to MASTER #GIT (but with the "ops" buzzwords) https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/gitops-best-practices-for-the-real-world/
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[22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | GitOps: Best practices for the real world IBM Developer
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[22:55] techrights-news Not a bad #gtk theme: How to install the Skeuos GTK theme on #gnu #Linux https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/skeuos-gtk-theme-linux/
[22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | How to install the Skeuos GTK theme on Linux
[22:57] techrights-news "Recently, the #GStreamer project merged all its #git repositories into a single, unified repository, often called #monorepo . You can read more about this change here." https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/10/26/run-your-own-ci-with-gstreamer-new-monorepo/ not to be mistaken for http://techrights.org/wiki/Mono
[22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Run your own CI pipeline with GStreamer's new monorepo
[22:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mono - Techrights
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[23:02] techrights-news 6 Reasons Why Experienced Linux Users Would Love #elementaryOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157221 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Reasons Why Experienced Linux Users Would Love elementary OS | Tux Machines
[23:03] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157222 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines
[23:03] techrights-news Videos and Shows: MX Linux 21 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157223 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos and Shows: MX Linux 21 and More | Tux Machines
[23:05] techrights-news #Kernel: AMX, OpenZFS, and AMDGPU http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157224 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: AMX, OpenZFS, and AMDGPU | Tux Machines
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[23:09] techrights-news #KDE: PCLinuxOS Update, KDE Connect iOS Enters Public TestFlight Testing, Linux Application Ecosystem 2021 Changsha http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157225 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE: PCLinuxOS Update, KDE Connect iOS Enters Public TestFlight Testing, Linux Application Ecosystem 2021 Changsha | Tux Machines
[23:10] techrights-news Open Hardware/Modding: AVA Big Computing on ARM, Miniature Computing, and #RaspberryPi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157226 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: AVA 'Big Computing' on ARM, Miniature Computing, and Raspberry Pi | Tux Machines
[23:11] techrights-news "Other than Usenet and BBS's, are there any protocols that are purely message-board centric?" #internet #history #smallinternet #smallweb #notwww https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007447.html
[23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | SMALL INTERNET PROTOCOL ROUNDUP
[23:12] techrights-news We still need to convince more people to adopt alternatives to the #www in effect making less use of a Web browser or those awful "apps" that basically vomit out personal data every few seconds
[23:15] techrights-news If you cannot be in an activist movement or "hacker culture" while at the same time working for a company like #microsoft #ibm #google and #facebook ... you cannot, you just cannot. Like being a "green" activist while working for Exxon in daytime.
[23:20] techrights-news #LinuxFoundation and #Security Leftovers x Mns http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157227 #TuxMachines
[23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation and Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:20] techrights-news #Openwashing and #ProprietarySoftware x Mns http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157228 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Openwashing and Proprietary Software | Tux Machines
[23:21] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.35 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 6.43 swarm size (avg): 259.85
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[23:26] techrights-news Moving from one big #irc network to another = changing landlord and renting. #selfhosting IRC = buying a home.
[23:38] techrights-news Links 26/10/2021: SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 and Multi-Distro Benchmarks http://techrights.org/2021/10/26/multi-distro-benchmarks/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/10/26/multi-distro-benchmarks/
[23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 26/10/2021: SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.1 and Multi-Distro Benchmarks | Techrights
[23:39] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157229 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:39] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/157230 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines
[23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[23:40] techrights-news " #Ericsson means business [sic], and it's not going to undervalue its #patents in the renewal of its license agreement with Apple." http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/10/dutch-court-rejects-ericsson-motion-for.html see http://techrights.org/2018/01/14/ericsson-avanci-and-unwired-planet/ and techrights.org/2017/12/23/crushing-companies-that-make-phones-with-linux/
[23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Dutch court rejects Ericsson motion for anti-antisuit injunction, but Apple may still be enjoined if need be: another jurisdiction adopts Munich approach
[23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Ericsson and Its Patent Trolls (Like Avanci and Unwired Planet) Cannot Make It, the Patent Microcosm Will Perish | Techrights
[23:42] techrights-news The English High Court applies German law on EPC 2000 claims in Royalty Pharma v Boehringer http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/10/26/the-english-high-court-applies-german-law-on-epc-2000-claims-in-royalty-pharma-v-boehringer/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP
[23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | The English High Court applies German law on EPC 2000 claims in Royalty Pharma v Boehringer - Kluwer Patent Blog
[23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bristows LLP - Techrights
[23:43] techrights-news Weird #epo #uk hybrids now? #upc propaganda machine #bristows says "It is interesting to consider whether the same decision would be reached if Hacon HHJ had had to apply English law rather than German law." http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Bristows_LLP
[23:46] techrights-news "Gardiner Bryant explains why audio is critical in video production, capturing good sound, and post-processing using Audacity, an open source sound editing solution. This video will help those looking to level up their audio and overall production." https://puri.sm/posts/video-editing-with-linux-the-most-important-part-of-a-video/
[23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | Video Editing with Linux: The Most Important Part of a Video Purism
[23:46] techrights-news Does #purism realise that by grooming Gardiner Bryant it is propping up anti-RMS voices? Well, I suppose they cannot please everybody all the time...
[23:47] techrights-news New page: #BeatrizBusaniche Speaks Up in Defense of #RichardStallman https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#busaniche #rms #gnu #freesw
[23:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | Testimonies, Letters, Writings, and More | Stallman Support
[23:49] techrights-news "As a feminist, I have always worked to challenge stereotypes and over-generalizations about people. I believe that we should be inclusive of those with differences and, above all, fight for justice and the rights of all people." https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#busaniche
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