●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, March 27, 2022 ●● ● Mar 27 [00:00] DaemonFC Biden will also have the advantages of incumbency. And the fact that Trump told anyone who would listen that he was cheated in the election and they made it so he can't win. [00:00] DaemonFC So Trump has depressed his own turnout. Not only did he do that, but he went and ruined two Senate elections in Georgia that the Republicans could have won. [00:00] DaemonFC He told them stay home and don't vote because they'll just cheat you anyway. [00:01] DaemonFC His endorsements don't mean as much as he wants people to think they do. [00:02] DaemonFC He's endorsed Sonny Perdue to be the Governor of Georgia as payback for Brian Kemp refusing to try to overturn the election, but Kemp is polling way ahead. [00:02] DaemonFC The whole revenge tour thing is wearing thin. [00:04] activelow are you implying USA/"democrats" spit oil into fire in Ukraine, to escalate, and portray Trump as supporter of evil vladimir? [00:05] MinceR sounds like somebody wasn't paying attention to the things former president Traffic Cone of Treason said [00:06] DaemonFC No, I think the goal of the United States is to prolong the war and make the losses on the Russian side as heavy as possible. [00:06] DaemonFC Supporting Ukraine is secondary. The primary goal is to kill a lot of Russians and to make Putin look like a huge idiot and to boot Russia out of world politics. [00:07] DaemonFC In a month, the Russians have lost more soldiers than they did in 10 years in Afghanistan. [00:07] activelow to benefit elections in USA? [00:07] DaemonFC The longer Putin intends to stay there, the worse things will get for him. [00:07] DaemonFC The Russians are already admitting, in a backwards way, what their ultimate plans are now. [00:08] activelow which are? [00:08] DaemonFC Which is to fall back and try to fortify/prop up the puppet governments they recognized at the start of this whole thing. [00:08] DaemonFC They've gone from trying to destroy Ukraine as a nation to trying to prop up some separatist regions that are illegitimate. [00:09] DaemonFC The Russians quite obviously lied. [00:09] activelow the Minsk agreement insisted on federal elections in those regions [00:09] DaemonFC As of this morning, they have blown up two major Holocaust memorials. [00:09] activelow who? [00:10] DaemonFC Claiming you denazify a country by shelling Holocaust memorials is a little odd. [00:10] MinceR and in the Budapest Memorandum, terrorussia disclaimed any territorial demands against Ukraine [00:10] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [00:10] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 75.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 80.41 average k/sec., average swarm size 211.78 [00:30] DaemonFC https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-support-engineer-lay-offs-2022-3 [00:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/google-cloud-support-engineer-lay-offs-2022-3 [00:30] TR Bot I'm a Google Engineer Who Was Told They May Be Laid Off [00:30] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Goooooooooolag layoffs. [00:33] DaemonFC https://www.insider.com/favorite-things-i-get-aldi-on-a-budget-meals-list-2022-3#our-shopping-list-usually-comes-out-to-about-20-a-week-for-the-two-of-us-1 [00:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: insider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.insider.com/favorite-things-i-get-aldi-on-a-budget-meals-list-2022-3#our-shopping-list-usually-comes-out-to-about-20-a-week-for-the-two-of-us-1 [00:33] TR Bot My Household of 2 Shops at Aldi on $20 Budget Favorite Things I Buy [00:33] DaemonFC LOL [00:33] DaemonFC Another fucking fantasy document from Business Insider. [00:34] DaemonFC "Goldhen large eggs: $0.80" [00:35] DaemonFC Those are $1.49 at Aldi here. [00:35] DaemonFC "Peanut Delight creamy peanut butter: $1.29" [00:35] DaemonFC That's $1.69. [00:35] DaemonFC "Happy Farms sharp cheddar cheese: $1.85" [00:35] DaemonFC $2.79 here [00:36] DaemonFC Not really sure what their angle is, except maybe propaganda. [00:36] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [00:36] DaemonFC Black beans are not 55 cents, they are 79 cents. [00:37] DaemonFC Says this article was posted 13 hours ago. [00:37] DaemonFC These prices are more like Aldi's prices in 2012. [00:39] DaemonFC I haven't seen a can of beans for 55 cents since at least 4-5 years ago. [00:39] DaemonFC It was a long time before anyone heard of a Coronavirus. [00:40] DaemonFC Aldi's prices aren't much better than Walmart's. The only reason I go there is for a few things Walmart doesn't have. [00:40] MinceR many people have heard of coronaviruses before [00:41] DaemonFC Yeah, virologists. [00:41] DaemonFC Most people just go, "Yeah, another cold. Great!". [00:57] *darwin (~darwin@7d3n498busjrn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 45.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 364.01 ● Mar 27 [02:00] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 44.90 k/sec., IPFS upstream 41.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 362.85 [02:00] *CrystalMath (~coderain@sk7newzf28zyc.irc) has joined #techrights [02:01] DaemonFC Mandy says he heard gunshots. [02:02] DaemonFC Ivanova (B5): Truth be told, most of the people around here wouldn't mind if you killed each other, they'd just prefer you did it quietly. [02:02] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/illinois-to-shut-down-all-community-based-covid-19-testing-sites-due-to-sharp-drop-in-demand/ [02:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/illinois-to-shut-down-all-community-based-covid-19-testing-sites-due-to-sharp-drop-in-demand/ [02:02] TR Bot Illinois to shut down all community-based COVID-19 testing sites due to sharp drop in demand [02:02] DaemonFC That's how you make it go away. Stop testing people. [02:03] DaemonFC Trump said it. That's the Democrat strategy leading up to the election now. [02:03] DaemonFC https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us [02:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: worldometers.info | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us [02:03] TR Bot United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer [02:04] DaemonFC Deaths: [02:04] DaemonFC 1,003,418 [02:04] DaemonFC Congratulations to Biden for diverting attention to Russia for this occasion. [02:07] DaemonFC https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/jury-deliberations-to-continue-for-3rd-day-in-trial-of-man-who-fatally-shot-teen-who-was-in-stolen-car-in-volo/ [02:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: lakemchenryscanner.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2022/03/26/jury-deliberations-to-continue-for-3rd-day-in-trial-of-man-who-fatally-shot-teen-who-was-in-stolen-car-in-volo/ [02:07] TR Bot Jury deliberations to continue for 3rd day in trial of man who fatally shot teen who was in stolen car in Volo [02:07] DaemonFC Nothing to deliberate about. If he shot some people for stealing his car, you vote to acquit and go home. [02:08] DaemonFC "Glover sustained minor non-gunshot injuries from the incident and did not need medical treatment, police said." [02:09] DaemonFC So the teenagers who stole his car were armed (illegally) and shot him (also illegally). 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[03:43] *psydroid8 has quit (Quit: Quit) [03:44] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [03:57] *psydroid8 has quit (connection closed) [03:57] *psydroid9 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 54.83 k/sec., IPFS upstream 84.03 average k/sec., average swarm size 329.85 ● Mar 27 [04:05] *matey (~matey@vbku88433t7ju.irc) has joined #techrights [04:14] matey bnchs they don't understand we can't be crushing up our balls <- imagine telling a busty woman on the bus "could you squeeze your arms together so your chest starts to ache? people on the bus need room, you inconsiderate hag!" [04:14] matey in a polite society (lol as if) no one would do that. not sure how all the hate about "manspreading" is different [04:15] matey if someone needs me to crunch my own genitals together so theres room on the bus, there are too many people on the bus, qed [04:16] matey its not like i recreate the leg-crossing scene from "basic instinct" when i sit [04:16] matey or the choreography from "hit me baby one more time" [04:17] matey meanwhile there could be someone twice my size on the bus weighing one side of it down. what do we say "hey pal, could you go on a diet plz? people on the bus need room!" [04:18] matey nope, because youd have to be a total dick [04:19] matey it used to be okay to hate on fat people, but now theres a new group its okay to hate. hate is okay, you just have to check which group is "it" [04:20] matey /me notes that pretty soon theyll make men use their own separate washrooms [04:30] DaemonFC http://techrights.org/2022/03/26/canonical-self-censorship/ [04:30] TR Bot Canonical is Becoming Softer (Pro-Microsoft and Against Free Speech) | Techrights [04:30] DaemonFC LOL at the Firefly GIF. [04:30] DaemonFC Are we mandating tolerance of corruption? [04:30] DaemonFC Fedora does. [04:31] DaemonFC Ubuntu was the first distribution with one of those ridiculous codes of conduct. [04:31] DaemonFC You don't actually have to do anything malicious to run afoul of it and become the victim of a public knifing. [04:32] DaemonFC Ask Kevin Kofler (former Fedora KDE maintainer who actually USED Fedora KDE). [04:32] DaemonFC The only reason it didn't fall apart years ago was it had maintainers who used it and tried to adjust KDE to the changes going on because of GNOME. [04:32] DaemonFC They've completely let it go. [04:33] DaemonFC It's pretty obvious that IBM does things to break KDE deliberately. [04:33] DaemonFC I've been watching this go on for years now. [04:34] DaemonFC In that way they're like the Pre-IBM Red Hat but only worse. [04:51] matey Ubuntu was the first distribution with one of those ridiculous codes of conduct. <- "openrespect" was the beta version of codes of conduct [04:51] matey jono bacon, "community manager" [04:52] matey community mangler, more like [04:52] matey [h]omer (this chat, 2008) did a great piece on "openrespect" [04:52] matey inspired me as much as any blog post ever [04:53] matey i think he called openrespect "a little sinister" [04:53] matey "respect freedom, not pragmatism" [04:54] matey id link to it on every /quit if it didnt require js just to display the text of the article (which i also think is a little sinister) [04:54] matey display the text first, then run your little scripts all over it [04:55] matey unless youre using the js to access a db <- actually, just dont ever do this [04:55] TR News #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, March 26, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:55] TR Bot Bulletin Archives [04:55] TR News #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:55] TR Bot Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:58] matey It's pretty obvious that IBM does things to break KDE deliberately. <- as someone who dislikes both ibm and kde, i wish i knew what this referred to (id add it to the things i bitch about) [04:59] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 42.53 k/sec., IPFS upstream 96.43 average k/sec., average swarm size 228.05 [04:59] schestowitz-TR [04:51] jono bacon, "community manager" [04:59] schestowitz-TR he is an "artist" [04:59] schestowitz-TR "art of community management" [04:59] matey bullshit is an art [04:59] schestowitz-TR bossing volunteers is an art [04:59] schestowitz-TR like heavy metal of his [04:59] schestowitz-TR shouting at the microphone [04:59] schestowitz-TR is music [04:59] schestowitz-TR art [04:59] matey i watched his interview with you, he was pretty nasty [04:59] matey smug little shit he is [04:59] matey imagine him teaching respect ● Mar 27 [05:00] schestowitz-TR OPENrespect [05:00] matey reminded me of mick jagger sneering about the verge using 12 notes from an INSTRUMENTAL (3rd party) version of a song the stones themselves didnt even write, they got it from the staple singers [05:00] matey like the verve was a thief "omg 12 notes, how the fuck does he sleep at night" [05:01] matey so they sued for 100% of writing credit, and the stones didnt wrote one bloody note of it but the verve wrote 100% (minus 12 notes of course) [05:01] mjg59_ Fair to disagree with Jono's approaches to community leadership, but "This isn't art" is a hallmark of authoritarianism [05:01] matey and they won and sold it to nike so they could sell shoes [05:01] TR News Windows itself is malware https://www.maketecheasier.com/disable-antimalware-service-executable-process/ [05:01] TR Bot Should You Disable "Antimalware Service Executable" Process in Windows? - Make Tech Easier [05:02] matey "This isn't art" is a hallmark of authoritarianism <- this seems like a stretch (but as rhetoric its top shelf) [05:02] mjg59_ Fascism and communism have both gone hard in on defining what legitimate art is [05:03] TR News 191: GNOME 42, Linux Mint, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Lakka, CrossOver and more Linux news! - TuxDigital https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-191/ Source: TuxDigital | GNU | Linux [05:03] TR Bot GNOME 42, Linux Mint, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, Lakka, CrossOver and more Linux news! - TuxDigital [05:03] matey i dont consider him authoritarian, i consider him opportunist (and id bet you this is closer to the mark) [05:03] matey Fascism and communism <- i dont know, i think it depends on what you mean by communism (really) [05:03] matey under authoritarian regimes like stalins, of course [05:03] matey if it offends, its not legitimate [05:03] matey if its anti-authoritarian, it offends [05:03] mjg59_ Oh, yeah, definitely referring to soviet-style regimes [05:04] matey "i dont know what art isnt, but i know what i dont like" [05:04] TR News 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 39.0 STABLE released. Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163032 [05:04] TR Bot 4MLinux Releases: 4MLinux 39.0 STABLE released. | Tux Machines [05:05] mjg59_ Spent a bunch of time in the past with metalheads and while it's not solidly my thing there's legitimate expression there [05:06] matey yeah i liked metal until it started to shill for the record industry (which it didnt as a whole, i simply outgrew it at the same time SOME bands turned into 'businesses') [05:06] TR News Imminent release for the media images for Debian 10.12 and 11.3 20220327 0010 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163029#comment-33207 [05:06] TR Bot Debian GNU/Linux 11.3 Bullseye Released with 83 Security Updates and 92 Bug Fixes | Tux Machines [05:06] matey lawyerica [05:07] matey harvester of royalites, let me be! [05:07] matey typos ruin jokes :( [05:08] schestowitz-TR germany tries to emulate this [05:08] matey yeah germany experimented with authoritarianism a couple of times [05:08] matey it didnt end well [05:10] TR News EasyOS: Increased gap between drive icons and tray http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163002#comment-33208 [05:10] TR Bot EasyOS Dunfell-series 3.4.4 | Tux Machines [05:18] *gooseheaded (~gooseheaded@k4iakbqdkh8kq.irc) has joined #techrights [05:29] TR News This week in KDE: Progress on gestures and 15-minute bugs! 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[06:04] TR News "One of Britain's largest unions, Unite, is calling on chip designer Arm's management to pause an ongoing redundancy process and "open up the books" for closer inspection to reveal the company's "true" financial health." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/uks_largest_union_to_arm/ [06:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/uks_largest_union_to_arm/ [06:04] TR Bot UK's largest union calls on Arm to press pause on job cuts The Register [06:05] TR News Conti=Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_security/ [06:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_security/ [06:05] TR Bot SATCOM networks on high alert after US govt warning The Register [06:05] TR News Zoom is basically spyware. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/zoom_dpia/ [06:05] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/zoom_dpia/ [06:05] TR Bot Zoom agrees privacy conditions with Dutch ICT purchasing org The Register [06:06] *matey has quit (connection closed) [06:06] TR News This is the sort of WEBSPAM that's RUINING the WWW and makes me want to use Gemini ANY time I can https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/ [06:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: geeky-gadgets.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/last-minute-deal-linux-administration-bootcamp-save-60-24-03-2022/ [06:06] TR Bot Last Minute Deal: Linux Administration Bootcamp - Geeky Gadgets [06:07] TR News Best Open Source Security Tools in 2022 https://www.toolbox.com/it-security/vulnerability-management/articles/top-open-source-cybersecurity-tools/ [06:07] TR Bot NO TITLE [06:22] TR News Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) 5 'Elsie' is very, very nice! I tried it yesterday. If you're into GNOME or Cinnamon, give it a try! [06:23] TR News Guess what OS they use extensively https://www.law360.com/legalethics/articles/1476798/legal-stakes-rise-as-court-data-breach-grows [06:23] Alternative link Cloudflare: law360.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.law360.com/legalethics/articles/1476798/legal-stakes-rise-as-court-data-breach-grows [06:23] TR Bot Stakes Rise As Court Data Breach Grows - Law360 [06:23] TR News AFTER?? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-22/leaders-measure-progress-after-covid-pandemic-blm-protests [06:23] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [06:24] TR News Labor groups aim to block autonomous tractors in California | Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc. https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/17414-labor-groups-aim-to-block-autonomous-tractors-in-california Source: agri-pulse [06:24] TR Bot groups aim to block autonomous tractors in California | Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc. [06:25] TR News This move by Mozilla is INSANE BTW https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/ [06:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/24/mozillas_mdn_subscription/ [06:25] TR Bot Mozilla adds tiered subscription plans to MDN Web Docs The Register [06:27] TR News "Addiction tech"... sounds like Facebook, but it ain't https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/money-flows-addiction-tech-will-it-curb-soaring-opioid-overdose-deaths [06:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/money-flows-addiction-tech-will-it-curb-soaring-opioid-overdose-deaths [06:27] TR Bot Money flows into addiction tech, but will it curb soaring opioid overdose deaths? | Fierce Biotech [06:29] TR News What about listening devices (Cortana) data? Blackmail repository. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/microsoft_lapsus_breach_probe/ [06:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/microsoft_lapsus_breach_probe/ [06:29] TR Bot Microsoft investigates Lapsus$ claim of Bing, Cortana theft The Register [06:30] TR News Microsoft propaganda relay securityboulevard suggests Microsoft malware on AWS https://securityboulevard.com/2022/03/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint-on-aws-part-4-final-entry/ see http://techrights.org/2019/09/09/attacking-foss-by-proxy/ [06:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: securityboulevard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://securityboulevard.com/2022/03/microsoft-defender-for-endpoint-on-aws-part-4-final-entry/ [06:30] TR Bot Microsoft Defender for Endpoint on AWS: Part 4 Final Entry - Security Boulevard [06:30] TR Bot Security Boulevard is a Microsoft-Connected Attack Site Created by a Free Software-Hostile Person | Techrights [06:31] TR News Forbes legitimising a SCAM again? https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/what-is-an-nft-how-do-nfts-work/ [06:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: forbes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/what-is-an-nft-how-do-nfts-work/ [06:31] TR Bot Is An NFT? How Do NFTs Work? Forbes Advisor INDIA [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 20.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 67.01 average k/sec., average swarm size 305.50 ● Mar 27 [07:00] TR News "We (A&A) sell gigabit services, as both Ethernet and FTTP. We see other ISPs selling 950M or 900M, why?" https://www.revk.uk/2022/03/when-is-gigabit-not-gigabit.html [07:00] TR Bot RevK's ramblings: When is gigabit not gigabit? [07:01] TR News "Lslocks(8) is the Linux command that you usually use to list current file locks on a machine." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LslocksNotes [07:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: utoronto.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/LslocksNotes [07:01] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/LslocksNotes [07:01] TR News "Infrastructure-as-code (IaC) is often seen as a deployment tool. Write code to describe your infrastructure" https://matt-rickard.com/vertical-workflow-engines/ [07:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: matt-rickard.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/vertical-workflow-engines/ [07:01] TR Bot Build-as-Code [07:02] TR News "In this how-to, well look at the zip command, a useful utility that enables us to specify lists of files" https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/how-to/zip-files-in-linux [07:02] TR Bot How To Zip Files in Linux | Tom's Hardware [07:02] TR News "If you haven't heard of Asahi, it's a Linux distribution based on Arch Linux that aims to bring a polished Linux experience on Apple Silicon Macs" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/installing-asahi-linux-alpha-on-my-m1-mac-mini [07:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: jeffgeerling.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2022/installing-asahi-linux-alpha-on-my-m1-mac-mini [07:02] TR Bot Installing the Asahi Linux Alpha on my M1 Mac mini | Jeff Geerling [07:05] TR News Social control media ttps://www.economist.com/europe/2022/03/26/the-invasion-of-ukraine-is-not-the-first-social-media-war-but-it-is-the-most-viral see http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/ [07:05] TR Bot Twitter Profits From Conflict | Techrights [07:05] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [07:05] *MinceR (~mincer@bringer.of.light) has joined #techrights [07:05] *irc.techrights.org gives channel operator status to MinceR [07:05] TR News HEY HI and death https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2022/03/26/the-dangers-of-weaponizing-artificial-intelligence/ [07:05] TR Bot The Dangers of Weaponizing Artificial Intelligence - Modern Diplomacy [07:06] TR News "The director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations warned the private sector to be on high alert for potential Russian cyberattacks" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/fbi-warns-of-russian-cyberattacks-altice-t-mobile-deal-nfl-blockchain-deal-visionary-in-broadband/ [07:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: broadbandbreakfast.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/03/fbi-warns-of-russian-cyberattacks-altice-t-mobile-deal-nfl-blockchain-deal-visionary-in-broadband/ [07:06] TR Bot FBI Warns of Russian Cyberattacks, Altice-T-Mobile Deal, NFL Blockchain Deal, Visionary in Broadband : Broadband Breakfast [07:07] TR News "Now The V In RISC-V Stands For VRoom" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/now-the-v-in-risc-v-stands-for-vroom/ [07:07] TR Bot The V In RISC-V Stands For VRoom | Hackaday [07:08] TR News "geek icons like Bill Gates"???????? https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/arduino-keeps-your-classic-timex-datalink-in-sync/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/28/non-denying-and-false-denials/ [07:08] TR Bot Keeps Your Classic Timex Datalink In Sync | Hackaday [07:08] TR Bot Speaking Through Spokespeople is a Sign of Weakness, Such as Non-Denying and False Denials (or: Bill Gates Never Denied His Connections to MIT Through Jeffrey Epstein) | Techrights [07:12] TR News "For the past week Ive found myself focusing heavily on the mobile version of Lagrange." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_heads-down.gmi [07:13] TR News "The existence of fudging frustrated me for a while because it forced me to come up with so many ways to be radically transparent to the dorks. Rolling openly, open tally of hitpoints etc. Sometimes showing parts from the module." gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fudging-designers [07:14] TR News "The past couple of years of the COVID pandemic have been rough in some unexpected ways, and its clear that our world will never be quite the same as it was beforehand" https://hackaday.com/2022/03/26/hacker-camps-are-back-to-get-you-in-the-mood-heres-a-story-from-1997/ [07:14] TR Bot Camps Are Back. To Get You In The Mood, Heres A Story From 1997 | Hackaday [07:16] TR News Bezos https://truthout.org/audio/communities-are-paying-amazon-to-set-up-shop-it-should-be-the-other-way-around/ [07:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: truthout.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/audio/communities-are-paying-amazon-to-set-up-shop-it-should-be-the-other-way-around/ [07:16] TR Bot Communities Are Paying Amazon to Set Up Shop. It Should Be the Other Way Around. [07:16] TR News "With two Oscar nominations, "Parallel Mothers" is one of the contenders for the prestigious award ceremonies tomorrow." https://torrentfreak.com/oscar-contender-targets-official-oscars-website-with-a-dmca-takedown-notice-220326/ [07:16] Alternative link Cloudflare: torrentfreak.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/oscar-contender-targets-official-oscars-website-with-a-dmca-takedown-notice-220326/ [07:16] TR Bot Contender Targets Official Oscars Website With a DMCA Takedown Notice * TorrentFreak [07:22] TR News We have 20 tests at home left. Watch what US is doing. https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/26/utter-travesty-uninsured-americans-will-now-be-charged-125-single-pcr-covid-19-test [07:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: commondreams.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/26/utter-travesty-uninsured-americans-will-now-be-charged-125-single-pcr-covid-19-test [07:22] TR Bot 'Utter Travesty': Uninsured Americans Will Now Be Charged $125 for a Single PCR Covid-19 Test [07:22] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [07:25] TR News "Happy 10th Birthday to the Open Source Robotics Foundation OSRF founders discuss changes theyve seen over the last decade" https://eponymouspickle.blogspot.com/2022/03/open-source-robotics-foundation-osrf.html [07:25] TR Bot The Eponymous Pickle: Open Source Robotics Foundation (OSRF) [07:26] TR News "Being a predominantly functional language, the fact that jq has a reduce function comes as no surprise." https://qmacro.org/2022/03/25/understanding-jq-s-reduce-function/ [07:26] TR Bot Understanding jq's reduce function [07:26] TR News "Arrays in Cobol are called tables, and they are a bit odd." https://craftofcoding.wordpress.com/2022/03/25/coding-cobol-tricks-with-arrays-or-tables/ [07:26] TR Bot Coding Cobol: Tricks with arrays (or tables) The Craft of Coding [07:27] TR News "On a daily basis, I work on firmware for an embedded device that uses the Bridgetek FT800." https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2022/03/fun-with-font-rendering-consistency-in-python/ [07:27] TR Bot Downtown Doug Brown Fun with font rendering consistency in Python [07:27] TR News "The image above is his acceptance speech for a lifetime achievement award at the Webbys in 2013." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-actual-pronunciation-of-gif-from-the-creator/ [07:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: danielmiessler.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-actual-pronunciation-of-gif-from-the-creator/ [07:27] TR Bot The Actual Pronunciation of GIF, from the Creator - Daniel Miessler [07:29] TR News Proprietary https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/researchers-urged-to-avoid-bug-bounty-firms-after-hackerone-hiccup.html [07:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: itwire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/researchers-urged-to-avoid-bug-bounty-firms-after-hackerone-hiccup.html [07:29] TR Bot - Researchers urged to avoid bug bounty firms after HackerOne hiccup [07:29] TR News "Pedo guy" Elon https://www.thewrap.com/elon-musk-twitter-censorship-free-speech-undermines-democracy [07:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: thewrap.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thewrap.com/elon-musk-twitter-censorship-free-speech-undermines-democracy [07:29] TR Bot Elon Musk on Twitter Censorship Undermining Democracy [07:30] TR News "usk shared his thoughts on Twitter after being asked if a new platform is something he'd consider." https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18079680/elon-musk-giving-serious-thought-new-social-media-platform/ [07:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: thesun.co.uk | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/18079680/elon-musk-giving-serious-thought-new-social-media-platform/ [07:30] TR Bot Elon Musk says he's 'giving serious thought' to building a new social media platform which focuses on free speech [07:30] TR News "The deal includes a way for Europeans to object if they feel that their privacy has been violated" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/business/us-europe-data-privacy.html [07:30] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/business/us-europe-data-privacy.html [07:30] TR Bot U.S. and European Leaders Reach Deal on Trans-Atlantic Data Privacy - The New York Times [07:31] TR News "The European Union and United States made a breakthrough in their yearslong battle over the privacy of data that flows across the Atlantic" https://www.securityweek.com/us-eu-sign-data-transfer-deal-ease-privacy-concerns [07:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: securityweek.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.securityweek.com/us-eu-sign-data-transfer-deal-ease-privacy-concerns [07:31] TR Bot EU Sign Data Transfer Deal to Ease Privacy Concerns | SecurityWeek.Com [07:32] TR News "Bloomberg reported that Exxon simply doesnt have enough pipelines to transport all the gas it produces from shale oil" https://futurism.com/the-byte/exxon-burning-gas-mine-bitcoin [07:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: futurism.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://futurism.com/the-byte/exxon-burning-gas-mine-bitcoin [07:32] TR Bot Exxon Mobil Is Starting to Burn Excess Gas to Mine Bitcoin [07:34] TR News "In 2002, confidential intelligence sources informed ATF Agents of an Argentinean suspect brazenly selling machine guns" https://www.atf.gov/our-history/internet-arms-trafficking [07:34] TR Bot Internet Arms Trafficking | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives [07:35] TR News You would expect this in Putin's Russia, would you not? https://www.thevalleypost.com/american-libraries-are-protesting-the-growing-onslaught-to-censor-books/ [07:35] Alternative link Cloudflare: thevalleypost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thevalleypost.com/american-libraries-are-protesting-the-growing-onslaught-to-censor-books/ [07:35] TR Bot American libraries are protesting the growing onslaught to censor books [07:36] TR News "Though I appealed the removal and had the post reinstated, within 24 hours it was taken down again with a second, far more ominous warning from the platform that my account was about to be deleted." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/nadia-bokody-sexual-double-standard-in-censorship-of-identical-nude-photos/TTAE3RUMGN7KW4ERJQVSBFKJVQ/ [07:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: nzherald.co.nz | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/nadia-bokody-sexual-double-standard-in-censorship-of-identical-nude-photos/TTAE3RUMGN7KW4ERJQVSBFKJVQ/ [07:36] TR Bot Nadia Bokody: Sexual double standard in censorship of identical nude photos - NZ Herald [07:37] TR News "The sophistication of the anime dubbing industry has made great strides over the past few decades." https://www.cbr.com/anime-censored-english-audiences/ [07:37] TR Bot Anime That Were Censored For English Speaking Audiences | CBR [07:38] TR News Putin is finishing off the media in Russia https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-venediktov-pig-head/31769204.html https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220325-russian-journalists-quit-over-putin-propaganda [07:38] TR Bot Pig's Head Left At Moscow Apartment Of Radio Station's Editor In Chief [07:38] TR Bot Russian journalists quit over Putin 'propaganda' [07:39] TR News Monopolies like Gulag and the EU https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/facebook-google-amazon-apple-digital-market-act-europe-regulation-1235214516/ Microsoft criminals off he hook? [07:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: variety.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://variety.com/2022/digital/global/facebook-google-amazon-apple-digital-market-act-europe-regulation-1235214516/ [07:40] TR Bot Google to be Regulated as Europe Sets Digital Markets Act - Variety [07:43] TR News OpenSSL vulnerability can definitely be weaponized, NSA cyber director says https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/application-security/openssl-vulnerability-can-definitely-be-weaponized-nsa-cyber-director-says [07:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: scmagazine.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.scmagazine.com/analysis/application-security/openssl-vulnerability-can-definitely-be-weaponized-nsa-cyber-director-says [07:43] TR Bot OpenSSL vulnerability can definitely be weaponized, NSA cyber director says | SC Media [07:45] TR News Russia looks for tech fixes for sanctions-hit HPC sector https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia-mobile-clusters/ see http://techrights.org/2022/03/10/donetsk-and-gulag-or-google-now-bans-parts-of-ukraine-for-being-invaded-by-russia/ [07:45] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/russia-mobile-clusters/ [07:45] TR Bot Russia looks for tech fixes for sanctions-hit HPC sector The Register [07:45] TR Bot When Sanctions Go Toxic: Google, Co-Founded by Moscovite, Agrees With Moscow and Recognises Mariupol (Ukraine) as a Part of Russia | Techrights [07:46] TR News I'm glad Gulag sanctioned the United States back in 2003 when it had invaded Iraq. Oh, wait... [07:47] TR News They call everything "smart" now... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/pluribus_netvisor_for_nvidia_dpus/ [07:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/pluribus_netvisor_for_nvidia_dpus/ [07:47] TR Bot Pluribus ports network OS to Nvidia SmartNICs The Register [07:50] TR News The hypocrisy is astounding as the US is most aggressive in the Internet space https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/956180/cyber-warfare-what-is-russia-planning-next [07:50] TR Bot Cyberwarfare: what is Russia planning? | The Week UK [07:51] TR News "Robert Wille, Professor at the Technical University of Munich and CSO at the Software Competence Center, Hagenberg, considers the classical simulation of quantum circuits" https://www.openaccessgovernment.org/simulation-of-quantum-circuits/132333/ [07:51] TR Bot Classical simulation of quantum circuits [07:52] TR News Now it's Cisco using "CLOWN" BS for marketing https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cisco-innovations-accelerate-hybrid-cloud-adoption/ [07:52] Alternative link Cloudflare: techrepublic.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techrepublic.com/article/cisco-innovations-accelerate-hybrid-cloud-adoption/ [07:52] TR Bot announces new innovations to accelerate hybrid cloud adoption | TechRepublic [07:53] TR News The Wall Street Times is stuck in some other universe.... https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/21/arts/design/christies-andy-warhol-marilyn-monroe.html [07:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/21/arts/design/christies-andy-warhol-marilyn-monroe.html [07:53] TR Bot Christies to Offer a Marilyn Monroe by Warhol for an Estimated $200 Million - The New York Times [07:57] TR News Yes, dear, US never ever had any debris in space... https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/china_moon_impact/ [07:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/04/china_moon_impact/ [07:57] TR Bot Chinese rocket junk may have just smashed into Moon The Register [07:58] AdmFubar https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grants [07:58] TR Bot is doling out $200,000 'retention grants' to keep people from leaving - Protocol [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 23.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 14.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 281.61 [07:59] TR News This actually keeps salaries lower https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/apple-retention-grants ● Mar 27 [08:01] TR News Weird analogy as Reddit is state propaganda and censorship https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/douban_rectification/ [08:01] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/douban_rectification/ [08:01] TR Bot China's internet regulator moves on Douban The Register [08:01] AdmFubar https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3n5e9/russian-internet-lantern [08:01] TR Bot Meet the Secretive US Company Building an Unbreakable Internet Inside Russia [08:02] AdmFubar they'll let you know... eventually https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/government-can-seize-your-messages-secret-lawmakers-want-you-know-if-it-does/ [08:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: washingtonpost.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/22/government-can-seize-your-messages-secret-lawmakers-want-you-know-if-it-does/ [08:02] TR Bot The government can seize your messages in secret. Lawmakers want you to know if it does. - The Washington Post [08:02] schestowitz-TR true [08:02] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: I was simulating this mormnng: in my mind... [08:03] schestowitz-TR if there was a knock by people implementing search [08:03] schestowitz-TR first, I need eyewitness. [08:03] schestowitz-TR like wife [08:03] schestowitz-TR then mask on [08:03] schestowitz-TR then demand to see a court warrant [08:03] schestowitz-TR so they don't abuse it ad hoc [08:03] schestowitz-TR they need reasonable suspicion to access equipment and messages from whistleblowers [08:04] schestowitz-TR afaik, british law requires that too [08:04] schestowitz-TR they must go through court/judge [08:04] schestowitz-TR to establish cause [08:04] schestowitz-TR the assange and lauri love cases are interesting [08:04] schestowitz-TR they used "hacking" as pretext [08:04] schestowitz-TR in the love case, maybe fair [08:04] schestowitz-TR in the assange case, it's not an accusation from another country [08:05] schestowitz-TR but in love cases the police acted as imposter ... courier... actually a special crime unit [08:05] schestowitz-TR not police per se [08:05] schestowitz-TR which is questionable [08:06] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [08:06] schestowitz https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/bms-bets-volastras-vision-chromosomal-instability-partnering-11-billion-deal [08:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/bms-bets-volastras-vision-chromosomal-instability-partnering-11-billion-deal [08:06] TR Bot Bristol Myers lands $1.1B biobucks oncology pact with Volastra, a biotech with phones 'ringing off the hook' | Fierce Biotech [08:07] schestowitz-TR in NZ, they raided a home with antiterror squad [08:07] schestowitz-TR armed to the teeth [08:08] TR News Femmewashing Pentagon companies http://nwasianweekly.com/2022/03/breaking-in-to-the-tech-industry/ [08:08] TR Bot Breaking in to the tech industry [08:08] TR News 11 Best Systemd-Free Linux Distributions Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163035 [08:08] TR Bot 11 Best Systemd-Free Linux Distributions | Tux Machines [08:11] TR News Tinkerer ports Doom to Pi Pico - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/doom_pi_pico/ Source: theregister [08:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/doom_pi_pico/ [08:11] TR Bot Tinkerer ports Doom to Pi Pico The Register [08:13] TR News Criminals attacked criminals (Microsoft) https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/lapsus-larger-companies/ [08:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/lapsus-larger-companies/ [08:13] TR Bot Lapsus$ gang sends a worrying message to would-be criminals The Register [08:14] TR News Bringing fakecoins under control https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/eu_parliament_cryptocurrencies/ [08:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/eu_parliament_cryptocurrencies/ [08:14] TR Bot Europe advances cryptocurrency rules without Bitcoin ban The Register [08:17] TR News OASIS - ROS 2 based Smart Home operating system integrates with Kodi Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163036 [08:17] TR Bot OASIS - ROS 2 based Smart Home operating system integrates with Kodi | Tux Machines [08:18] TR News Gulag arrogantly pretends to be king of code in some PR stunt https://www.freepressjournal.in/education/edtech-firm-omotec-student-wins-google-code-to-learn-2021-competition [08:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/education/edtech-firm-omotec-student-wins-google-code-to-learn-2021-competition [08:18] TR Bot Edtech firm, OMOTEC student wins Google Code to Learn 2021 competition [08:22] TR News Ugly, shitty, expensive. You can get one for 10-20 pounds. https://www.windowscentral.com/drop-ctrl-review [08:22] Alternative link Cloudflare: windowscentral.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowscentral.com/drop-ctrl-review [08:22] TR Bot Drop CTRL review: A great yet expensive foundation for a custom mechanical keyboard | Windows Central [08:24] TR News Remember that many of today's 'articles' and 'reviews' are webspam, i.e. marketing in clothing of "journalism". Most of the WWW is like that now. Corporate military-grade propaganda battleground. It's getting hard to discern truth from fiction/astroturf. [08:25] TR News ZDNet is AGAIN promoting/legitimising SCAMS https://www.zdnet.com/finance/blockchain/exclusive-ftx-buys-good-luck-games-in-quest-to-convince-gamers-to-love-nfts-and-blockchain/ http://techrights.org/wiki/ZDNet [08:25] TR Bot FTX buys Good Luck Games in quest to convince gamers to love NFTs and blockchain | ZDNet [08:25] TR Bot ZDNet - Techrights [08:26] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/ [08:26] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/18/exotic_lily_iab_google/ [08:26] TR Bot Exotic Lily sells ransomware groups access to targets The Register [08:27] AdmFubar cut off your head in spite of your body https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/25/self-decapitating-sea-slug/ [08:27] Alternative link Cloudflare: snopes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/03/25/self-decapitating-sea-slug/ [08:27] TR Bot This Sea Slug Survive Self-Decapitation | Snopes.com [08:28] TR News AvosLocker = Microsoft Windows https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/avoslocker-ransomware-critical-infrastructure-fbi/ [08:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/avoslocker-ransomware-critical-infrastructure-fbi/ [08:28] TR Bot FBI: Ransomware gang is targeting US critical infrastructure The Register [08:29] AdmFubar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isrBXeAsW20 [08:29] TR Bot https://yewtu.be/watch?v=isrBXeAsW20 [08:29] TR Bot yewtu.be | Monty Python - Shaver - Invidious [08:29] TR News This assumes that the more people get hooked on surveillance networks with useless devices, the better off society will be. Meanwhile millions are homeless and sick. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/fcc-dangles-1b-third-emergency-connectivity-fund-round [08:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercetelecom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/fcc-dangles-1b-third-emergency-connectivity-fund-round [08:29] TR Bot FCC dangles $1B in third Emergency Connectivity Fund round | Fierce Telecom [08:30] TR News FEATURE-Behind Russias digital iron curtain', tech workarounds thrive | Technology https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/technology/1973550-feature-behind-russias-digital-iron-curtain-tech-workarounds-thrive Source: devdiscourse [08:30] TR Bot FEATURE-Behind Russia's 'digital iron curtain', tech workarounds thrive | Technology [08:32] TR News "Logs for network equipment in security critical functions shall be fully recorded and made available for audit for 13 months" https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/telco_security_regulations_dcms_consultation/ [08:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/03/telco_security_regulations_dcms_consultation/ [08:32] TR Bot DCMS launches public consultation on telco security The Register [08:34] TR News Chine already dominates hardware and schools the world (with Taiwan and Japan). India does the same to software... https://saudigazette.com.sa/article/618360 [08:34] TR Bot India gearing up to become global hub for a digital economy - Saudi Gazette [08:36] TR News IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 26, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/27/irc-log-260322/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/27/irc-log-260322/ [08:36] TR Bot IRC Proceedings: Saturday, March 26, 2022 | Techrights [08:40] TR News "In 1987, CompuServe needed to pump crisp graphics over slow dial-up modems. The technology it created to do so is very much with us today." https://www.fastcompany.com/90734869/history-of-gif-steve-wilhite one of over a million USians killed by COVID [08:40] Alternative link Cloudflare: fastcompany.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fastcompany.com/90734869/history-of-gif-steve-wilhite [08:40] TR Bot How Steve Wilhite created the GIF in 1987 at CompuServe [08:40] *matey (~matey@9hp5w2mfcxg2e.irc) has joined #techrights [08:42] TR News US did the same to Iran https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/us/politics/russians-cyberattacks-infrastructure-nuclear-plant.html see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Stuxnet [08:42] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/us/politics/russians-cyberattacks-infrastructure-nuclear-plant.html [08:42] TR Bot U.S. Accuses 4 Russians of Hacking Infrastructure, Including Nuclear Plant - The New York Times [08:42] TR Bot Stuxnet - Techrights [08:43] TR News Lawsuits by proxy from Microsoft criminals, some alleged https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/in-appeal-apple-argues-epic-failed-to-prove-facts-of-fortnite-lawsuit/ [08:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: cnet.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/in-appeal-apple-argues-epic-failed-to-prove-facts-of-fortnite-lawsuit/ [08:43] TR Bot Appeal, Apple Argues Epic 'Failed to Prove' Facts of Fortnite Lawsuit - CNET [08:44] TR News Gulag = espionage. This is no goodwill, it's expansion of scope of surveillance. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/google-fiber-goes-hiring-spree-support-expansion-efforts [08:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercetelecom.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercetelecom.com/broadband/google-fiber-goes-hiring-spree-support-expansion-efforts [08:44] TR Bot Google Fiber goes on hiring spree to support expansion efforts | Fierce Telecom [08:45] matey /me crosses the streams [08:45] matey so apparently putin is installing systemd on everything [08:46] TR News Fake security https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/fido_password_killer/ see http://techrights.org/2020/10/15/fido-false-sense-of-security/ [08:46] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/fido_password_killer/ [08:46] TR Bot FIDO Alliance says it has finally killed the password The Register [08:46] TR Bot A FIDO/FIDO2 False Sense of Security for Premium Prices | Techrights [08:49] *darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [08:49] TR News COVID profiteering https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/abbott-snags-1b-us-government-contract-rapid-covid-19-tests [08:49] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/abbott-snags-1b-us-government-contract-rapid-covid-19-tests [08:49] TR Bot Abbott snags $1B U.S. government contract for rapid COVID-19 tests | Fierce Biotech [08:50] TR News Astro Slide 5G review: Yin and yang Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163037 [08:50] TR Bot Astro Slide 5G review: Yin and yang | Tux Machines [08:51] TR News Microsoft is scamming people, propping up fakecoins https://www.fool.ca/2022/03/17/5-play-to-earn-cryptocurrencies-you-need-to-have-on-your-watchlist/ [08:51] Alternative link Cloudflare: fool.ca | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fool.ca/2022/03/17/5-play-to-earn-cryptocurrencies-you-need-to-have-on-your-watchlist/ [08:51] TR Bot 5 Play-to-Earn Cryptocurrencies You Need to Have on Your Watchlist | The Motley Fool Canada [08:53] TR News All proprietary software should be removed, including American ones. They're using secrecy to do malicious things. Russia hasn't a monopoly on that. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/kaspersky_germany_antivirus/ [08:53] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/15/kaspersky_germany_antivirus/ [08:53] TR Bot German citizens told to uninstall Kaspersky antivirus The Register [08:54] TR News Gulag espionage machine coming for your medical records and even your flood, heart rate etc. https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-launches-new-search-tool-for-provider-appointments-seeks-fda-approv/621029/ [08:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: healthcaredive.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.healthcaredive.com/news/google-launches-new-search-tool-for-provider-appointments-seeks-fda-approv/621029/ [08:54] TR Bot Google launches new search tool for provider appointments, seeks FDA approval for Fitbit feature | Healthcare Dive [08:54] TR News Poop surveillance https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/health-officials-see-bright-future-poop-surveillance [08:54] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercebiotech.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/health-officials-see-bright-future-poop-surveillance [08:54] TR Bot Health officials see bright future in poop surveillance | Fierce Biotech [08:57] TR News Coming soon: Gulag Poop(TM). "Connect your "smart" phone to this peripheral for your safety, health, fitness..." (and Gulag will take all the shitty data 'upstream', overnight while you sleep) [08:57] TR News ICBM is all about buzzwords now. AIDevSecOps++ https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ibm_flexera_aiops/ [08:57] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ibm_flexera_aiops/ [08:57] TR Bot IBM partners with Flexera on AIOps IT automation The Register [08:58] TR News RISC-V rising. https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_stocks/iar-systems-commits-to-bring-leading-development-tools-to-the-growing-number-of-risc-v/article_91b62a1b-5ed3-5881-a8ad-05d6708c089f.html [08:58] TR Bot Systems commits to bring leading development tools to the growing number of RISC-V users | News | wfmz.com [08:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 32.38 k/sec., IPFS upstream 6.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 292.78 [08:59] TR News What skills? Memorising Microsoft and Amazon GUIs? Or real computer skills? https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/indian-workers-requiring-digital-skills-set-to-rise-by-273-mn-over-next-year-report [08:59] Alternative link Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/indian-workers-requiring-digital-skills-set-to-rise-by-273-mn-over-next-year-report [08:59] TR Bot Indian workers requiring digital skills set to rise by 27.3 mn over next year: Report ● Mar 27 [09:02] TR News What do Islamic terrorists and proprietary software have in common? They crash planes into buildings. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/business/boeing-trial-737-max-mark-forkner.html [09:02] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/business/boeing-trial-737-max-mark-forkner.html [09:02] TR Bot Jury Finds Former Boeing Pilot Not Guilty of Fraud in 737 Max Case - The New York Times [09:03] TR News 'Next Generation Litigation Software'??? https://seekingalpha.com/news/3815230-leonovus-secures-goc-standing-offer-for-its-hyper-secure-file-transfer-solution [09:03] Alternative link Cloudflare: seekingalpha.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://seekingalpha.com/news/3815230-leonovus-secures-goc-standing-offer-for-its-hyper-secure-file-transfer-solution [09:03] TR Bot Leonovus secures GoC standing offer for its hyper-secure file transfer solution | Seeking Alpha [09:04] TR News "That project included writing 40,000 lines of code for the moon-landing lunar module, and its mothership, the orbiting craft carrying the command and service modules." https://thenewstack.io/nasa-programming-legend-margaret-hamilton-gives-rare-interview/ [09:04] Alternative link Cloudflare: thenewstack.io | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://thenewstack.io/nasa-programming-legend-margaret-hamilton-gives-rare-interview/ [09:04] TR Bot Margaret Hamilton Recalls Her Life as a Programming Pioneer The New Stack [09:06] TR News "There are a few Qualcomm Snapdragon 7c Chrome OS devices on the market today. But some might like to see the more powerful Snapdragon 8cx inside a Chromebook." x86 buh-bye https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/snapdragon-8cx-chromebooks-could-be-coming-but-not-soon/ the more expensive energy gets, the worse off x86/Windows will be [09:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: aboutchromebooks.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.aboutchromebooks.com/news/snapdragon-8cx-chromebooks-could-be-coming-but-not-soon/ [09:06] TR Bot Snapdragon 8cx Chromebooks could be coming, but not soon About Chromebooks [09:07] TR News "SiFive is pulling in nearly $400m in funding this year between a new investment round and the proceeds of a business sale with the ambitious mission of eclipsing rival Arm and the x86 world of Intel and AMD with processor designs for everything from smartphones to servers." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/sifive_175m_series_f/ [09:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/sifive_175m_series_f/ [09:07] TR Bot SiFive bags $175m to further challenge Arm with RISC-V The Register [09:08] TR News Salesforce viciously attacked the founder of GNU/Linux https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/salesforce_jan_6_select_committee_subpoena/ it also profits from crimes against humanity: http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/ [09:08] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/salesforce_jan_6_select_committee_subpoena/ [09:08] TR Bot Republican Party sues Salesforce over Capitol riot info dump The Register [09:08] TR Bot The OSIs President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights [09:11] TR News ICBM: we're good at buzzwords! Buy our wares!! https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220322005807/en/Red-Hat-Lowers-Barriers-to-Artificial-Intelligence-Projects-with-Red-Hat-OpenShift [09:11] Alternative link Cloudflare: businesswire.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220322005807/en/Red-Hat-Lowers-Barriers-to-Artificial-Intelligence-Projects-with-Red-Hat-OpenShift [09:11] TR Bot Red Hat Lowers Barriers to Artificial Intelligence Projects with Red Hat OpenShift | Business Wire [09:12] TR News "Policy via social media: It's a thing now." No, it is not. Social control media is sheer stupidity at this point. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/qualcomm_russia_sales/ [09:12] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/17/qualcomm_russia_sales/ [09:12] TR Bot Qualcomm tweets it has stopped selling to Russia The Register [09:13] TR News "A now-former Apple employee accused of causing the iGiant to lose more than $10m in a super-scam has been charged with conspiracy, laundering, and tax evasion." Will Apple ALSO be charged for tax evasion??? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/apple_buyer_fraud_allegations/ [09:13] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/apple_buyer_fraud_allegations/ [09:13] TR Bot Buyer at Apple allegedly ripped off company in super-scam The Register [09:14] TR News This was malware shipped by Microsoft, stop blaming "open source" https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515031/Pro-Ukraine-sabotage-renews-scrutiny-on-open-source-security [09:14] Alternative link Cloudflare: techtarget.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techtarget.com/searchitoperations/news/252515031/Pro-Ukraine-sabotage-renews-scrutiny-on-open-source-security [09:14] TR Bot Pro-Ukraine sabotage renews scrutiny on open source security [09:17] TR News These sanctions are, in general, harming the most vulnerable people the most, inc. Russian opposition groups https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-sanctions-oligarchs.html [09:17] Alternative link Cloudflare: nytimes.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/opinion/russia-ukraine-putin-sanctions-oligarchs.html [09:17] TR Bot Opinion | Sanctions on Oligarchs Wont End Putins War in Ukraine - The New York Times [09:18] TR News Grifters and frauds https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/oneweb_spacex/ [09:18] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/oneweb_spacex/ [09:18] TR Bot OneWeb turns to SpaceX for satellite launches The Register [09:23] TR News They do NOT talk about E-mail; they talk about SPAM https://www.practicalecommerce.com/mastering-email-deliverability-in-2022 [09:23] TR Bot Mastering Email Deliverability in 2022 - Practical Ecommerce [09:23] TR News HowTo fix Cleartext HTTP traffic not permitted in Android Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163038 [09:23] TR Bot How to fix Cleartext HTTP traffic not permitted in Android | Tux Machines [09:25] TR News How many people need to die before the downfall of "pedo guy" Musk? https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_ai/ [09:25] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/in_brief_ai/ [09:25] TR Bot Tesla employee: I was fired for self-driving crash vid post The Register [09:27] TR News He used to write about Free software; now it's a pool of clownwashing BS. https://www.itweb.co.za/content/xA9PO7NZBzN7o4J8 [09:27] TR Bot The world as code: Transforming ones and zeros | ITWeb [09:28] TR News If more people paid attention, they'd not carry such devices around https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/23/1047899/secret-police-app-minnesota-police-journalists-protests-data/ [09:28] Alternative link Cloudflare: technologyreview.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/03/23/1047899/secret-police-app-minnesota-police-journalists-protests-data/ [09:28] TR Bot Inside the app Minnesota police use collect data on journalists at protests | MIT Technology Review [09:29] TR News Shouldn't there be a right to repairable broadband? - El Reg https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/panic_stations/ Source: theregister [09:29] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/panic_stations/ [09:29] TR Bot Shouldn't there be a right to repairable broadband? The Register [09:31] TR News Microsoft Windows TCO https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ukraine_cobalt_caddywipe/ [09:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/ukraine_cobalt_caddywipe/ [09:31] TR Bot The Windows malware on Ukraine CERT's radar right now The Register [09:32] TR News Algorithms, not "HEY HI!!" https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/ai-systems-language-training-internet-race-gender-bias/ [09:32] Alternative link Cloudflare: fortune.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/ai-systems-language-training-internet-race-gender-bias/ [09:32] TR Bot miseducation of A.I.: Systems trained using the internet can develop gender, race, and age bias, new report finds | Fortune [09:33] TR News "Another great day to be a Linux user." https://www.osnews.com/story/134695/icloud-and-many-other-apple-services-are-down-or-experiencing-issues/ [09:33] Alternative link Cloudflare: osnews.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.osnews.com/story/134695/icloud-and-many-other-apple-services-are-down-or-experiencing-issues/ [09:33] TR Bot and many other Apple services are down or experiencing issues OSnews [09:36] TR News "to stream" = worthless. I want to KEEP what I watch and what I like. GulagTube is NOT on our side. https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/youtube-now-offers-tv-show-seasons-stream-free [09:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: fiercevideo.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/youtube-now-offers-tv-show-seasons-stream-free [09:36] TR Bot YouTube now offers TV show seasons to stream for free | Fierce Video [09:36] TR News This is good. Good for many things inc. the environment. https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/work-from-home-magicpin-announces-its-remote-first-workplace-policy [09:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: freepressjournal.in | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.freepressjournal.in/business/work-from-home-magicpin-announces-its-remote-first-workplace-policy [09:36] TR Bot Work from Home: Magicpin announces its Remote-First workplace policy [09:39] TR News Clown Guru (Micosofters) rewrite the history of the most important OS https://devops.com/why-the-linux-kernel-is-still-important/ see http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/ [09:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: devops.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://devops.com/why-the-linux-kernel-is-still-important/ [09:39] TR Bot the Linux Kernel is Still Important - DevOps.com [09:39] TR Bot Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesnt Care About GNU/Linux and Now Its Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights [09:40] TR News What Is GrapheneOS, and How Does It Make Android More Private? https://www.howtogeek.com/790266/what-is-grapheneos-and-how-does-it-make-android-more-private/ if it's a mobile phone, it is NOT private [09:40] TR Bot What Is GrapheneOS, and How Does It Make Android More Private? [09:41] TR News "app for Windows and Mac ... Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS) severity rating of 9.1, making it a critical weakness." https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/wd_edgerover_app_flaw/ [09:41] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/21/wd_edgerover_app_flaw/ [09:41] TR Bot Another flaw found in Western Digital's EdgeRover app The Register [09:43] TR News "Criminals are staging a devious new kind of kidnapping and the FBI is stumped." https://www.businessinsider.com/virtual-kidnappers-scamming-terrified-parents-out-of-millions-fbi-2022-3?r=US&IR=T [09:43] Alternative link Cloudflare: businessinsider.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.businessinsider.com/virtual-kidnappers-scamming-terrified-parents-out-of-millions-fbi-2022-3?r=US&IR=T [09:43] TR Bot Virtual Kidnappers Are Scamming Parents Out of Millions of Dollars [09:44] TR News They need to delete Microsoft Windows. That's a good start. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland-when-great-power-competition-meets-digital-world/ukraines-digital-army-battling [09:44] Alternative link Cloudflare: nationalinterest.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland-when-great-power-competition-meets-digital-world/ukraines-digital-army-battling [09:44] TR Bot Ukraines Digital Army Is Battling Russia in Cyberspace | The National Interest [09:47] TR News Companies that make malware which they claim will "protect" you https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/cma_nortonlifelock_avast/ [09:47] Alternative link Cloudflare: theregister.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/16/cma_nortonlifelock_avast/ [09:47] TR Bot UK's CMA halts NortonLifeLock's acquisition of Avast The Register [09:48] TR News Gulag boss. The Pentagon's man... https://patch.com/california/berkeley/uc-berkeley-news-google-boss-fund-data-science-initiative [09:48] Alternative link Cloudflare: patch.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://patch.com/california/berkeley/uc-berkeley-news-google-boss-fund-data-science-initiative [09:48] TR Bot Berkeley News: Google Boss To Fund Data Science Initiative | Berkeley, CA Patch [09:51] TR News "The diffoscope maintainers are pleased to announce the release of diffoscope version 209." https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-209-released/ [09:51] TR Bot diffoscope 209 released [09:51] TR News New book highlights open source tools and tips for personal cybersecurity | https://opensource.com/article/22/3/book-review-cybersecurity Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux [09:51] TR Bot book highlights open source tools and tips for personal cybersecurity | Opensource.com [09:54] TR News "Today I found out that the debian security team handles oldstable releases only for a year or so, after which the LTS team takes over, which is arguably less secure." https://dt.iki.fi/debian-dist-upgrade-stable-from-oldstable [09:54] TR Bot Debian from oldstable to stable | dt.iki.fi [09:54] TR News A collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion https://dt.iki.fi/forum-posts-collection [09:54] TR Bot collection of Forum Posts I Don't Want to Sink into Oblivion | dt.iki.fi [09:58] TR News Two new Linux handhelds with nostalgic vibes Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163039 [09:58] TR Bot Two new Linux handhelds with nostalgic vibes | Tux Machines ● Mar 27 [10:13] *bnchs (~bnchs@160.178.2.21) has joined #techrights [10:13] *bnchs (~bnchs@160.178.2.21) has left #techrights [10:14] *bnchs (~bnchs@m4ps4kvuyp2zs.irc) has joined #techrights [10:14] bnchs alexa where do i live [10:14] bnchs alexa add big dildo to my shopping list [10:14] bnchs dont let a speaker that someone can play audio through near an alexa [10:19] schestowitz-TR alexa, who does fee cheat on his wife with? [10:19] schestowitz-TR *jeff [10:19] schestowitz-TR (bezos) [10:19] bnchs fun fact: you can leak a streamer's location if they have an alexa nearby [10:19] bnchs just say (with text to speech) "alexa, what is my current location" [10:20] matey right? [10:20] schestowitz-TR they can get location from the wifi [10:20] schestowitz-TR triagulation [10:20] schestowitz-TR or [10:20] schestowitz-TR phones on that same wifi spot [10:20] matey :) [10:20] schestowitz-TR where the phones broadcast location with high accuracy all the time [10:21] schestowitz-TR alexa, is it true bezos shuts down alexa? [10:21] bnchs yeah [10:21] bnchs but you have to know the wifi list [10:21] bnchs or be near the person [10:21] bnchs alexa, order 12 gallons of lube [10:22] bnchs alexa, call mom [10:23] bnchs alexa, call me an uber [10:23] bnchs its fun to mess with other people's alexas (not like they own it) when they're streaming [10:23] schestowitz-TR alexa: you are uber, get lube for mom [10:24] schestowitz-TR bnchs: those are fads [10:24] schestowitz-TR no practical value to them [10:24] bnchs yeah [10:24] schestowitz-TR maybe a little for disabled people [10:24] bnchs its just a spying device [10:24] schestowitz-TR but other than that, none... [10:24] schestowitz-TR products get more expensive, harder to repair [10:24] schestowitz-TR never mind privacy aspects [10:24] bnchs maybe like telling you whats your location [10:25] schestowitz-TR which many people do not mind [10:25] schestowitz-TR they mind more when it costs them a lot of money [10:25] bnchs simply hearing a TTS audio saying "alexa, whats my current location" is enough to trip it [10:26] matey other fads that will be here for a while: credit cards, smartphones, internet-connected appliances [10:26] matey like appliances that have been in homes since the 1950s or earlier, but now with internet [10:26] bnchs whats the point of credit cards [10:27] bnchs making shopping more convenient? [10:27] matey including nest [10:27] matey front door cameras probably not going away soon enough either [10:27] bnchs also allowing you to easily pay for shit [10:27] bnchs which also means more careless purchases [10:28] bnchs its easy to swipe credit cards many times [10:29] matey front door cameras brought to you by porch thieves brought to you by amazon [10:30] bnchs the security of credit cards depends on a 4-digit code [10:30] matey its only a matter of time before a porch thief grabs a camera that the recepient was planning to install to watch porch thieves [10:30] bnchs (btw over 6.5k possible combinations) [10:31] bnchs 4-digit codes are weak as shit [10:31] bnchs maybe they should upgrade to 8-digit [10:31] bnchs or more [10:32] matey they wont upgrade to anything that makes too much work for people calling in saying they dont know their pin [10:32] matey i can see a future upgrade to 5 digit pins [10:32] bnchs yeah so they're stuck on a weak ass security [10:32] bnchs computers are so powerful these days [10:32] matey maybe theyll just scrap pins altogether and use nfc [10:33] bnchs that 6.5k combinations is literally nothing [10:33] bnchs if you bruteforce multi-threaded [10:34] bnchs matey: banks still use cobol and old IBM mainframes right? [10:35] TR News Links 27/03/2022: 4MLinux 39.0 Release and Windows Chaos | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/03/27/4mlinux-39-0-release/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/03/27/4mlinux-39-0-release/ [10:35] TR Bot Links 27/03/2022: 4MLinux 39.0 Release and Windows Chaos | Techrights [10:36] matey matey: banks still use cobol and old IBM mainframes right? <- um, sure [10:37] matey i know some still use cobol [10:37] bnchs well they probably have it hardcoded to 4-digit PINs [10:37] matey im going with my theory for now [10:37] bnchs instead of having a modular security interface [10:37] matey its probably all the individual readers that are hard-coded to 4-digit pins [10:38] bnchs yeah [10:38] matey but the reason is: typical user [10:38] bnchs 5-digit pins can have 59k combinations [10:38] TR News Proprietary Software, Security News, and DRM Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163040 [10:38] TR Bot Proprietary Software, Security News, and DRM | Tux Machines [10:38] TR News Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163041 [10:38] TR Bot Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [10:38] matey i think the main security feature is fraud detection, not fraud prevention [10:38] TR News Open Hardware/Modding: Pi Pico, Open Source Robotics Foundation, RISC-V Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163042 [10:38] TR Bot Open Hardware/Modding: Pi Pico, Open Source Robotics Foundation, RISC-V | Tux Machines [10:39] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163043 [10:39] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:39] matey its not too hard to fake a purchase if you really want to [10:39] matey but you can get caught after the fact [10:39] TR News Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163044 [10:39] TR Bot today's leftovers | Tux Machines [10:39] matey the entire industry seems to rely on detection, not prevention [10:40] matey this is not my area of expertise, just observation [10:40] bnchs my calcs were wrong [10:41] bnchs you could say 10000 for 4-digit pins [10:41] matey i would think 5-digits means 99999 [10:41] matey because... [10:41] bnchs and 100k for 5-digits [10:41] matey right [10:41] bnchs you gotta also count the 0000 [10:41] matey yes [10:41] matey what did you do, 9**n ? [10:41] bnchs yeah [10:42] bnchs should have done 10 [10:42] matey time for coffee [10:46] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [10:57] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@uv8kqifeusfdc.irc) has joined #techrights [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 28.46 k/sec., IPFS upstream 21.90 average k/sec., average swarm size 300.01 ● Mar 27 [11:11] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:21] DaemonFC where the phones broadcast location with high accuracy all the time [11:21] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [11:21] DaemonFC Unless it was like that LG G5 with the malfunctioning GPS that said I was using the spore drive from the USS Discovery to teleport around Chicago. [11:22] DaemonFC That would have looked "interesting" had anyone wanted my location data for an investigation later. [11:22] DaemonFC That you could make it 90 blocks in 2 minutes. [11:22] DaemonFC Then bounce back to the other side of town again. [11:24] DaemonFC "A MacBook hybrid drive company is named tarDISK." -Wikipedia [11:25] DaemonFC Apple should rename their Clown Storage that collapsed twice this week alone "'tard disk". [11:26] DaemonFC "Hey NSA! What's the weather today?" [11:26] DaemonFC "Hey NSA! Tell me a joke!" [11:26] DaemonFC "Hey NSA! Please stop telling my daughter to put a fork in the outlet over the Alexa, thanks!" [11:28] DaemonFC Wanna see a magic trick? I'm gonna make this pencil DISAPPEAR! TADA! ● Mar 27 [12:02] DaemonFC https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/25/cleve-jones-san-francisco-housing-rent-lgbtq-activist [12:02] TR Bot San Francisco activist behind Aids quilt to leave home after rent doubles to $5,200 | San Francisco | The Guardian [12:02] DaemonFC Welcome to SJW Fantasy Island. mjg59_ will be your host, filling in for Mr. Roarke. [12:03] Ariadne seriously? [12:04] *bnchs (~bnchs@m4ps4kvuyp2zs.irc) has joined #techrights [12:04] DaemonFC "The new owner, Lily Pao Kue, is a 30-year-old self-described stock market investor who, according to Zillow records reviewed by the San Francisco Chronicle, purchased the property in February for $1,585,000. [12:04] DaemonFC According to the Chronicle, Kue has installed security cameras around the property, begun construction work in the building and had a car that belonged to Jones friend and roommate removed from the property. [12:04] DaemonFC In a letter Kue sent to Jones on 18 March, she stated that she assessed he had vacated the property and she would be increasing the current rent $2,393 to $5,200 as of 1 July, invoking a Costa-Hawkins petition. [12:04] DaemonFC Costa-Hawkins is a state law that sets certain requirements for cities with rent control. Under the law, landlords are allowed to raise rent to market rate once a tenant moves out." [12:05] DaemonFC A 30 year old "stock market investor" bought the place and is trying to claim that he abandoned his apartment, along with other harassment, to drive him out under the city's failed rent control law. [12:06] DaemonFC Very Progressive City [12:06] DaemonFC If he fights her, then what happens next obviously is yet another eviction by fire that the city says it doesn't find any evidence of. [12:09] matey this would be more compelling if he had grown up there and lived there for... how long [12:09] matey and by more compelling, is the idea that a couple anecdotes regarding a metropolitan area sum up the region? [12:10] matey dont get me wrong, the conclusion isnt something id necessarily argue with. its the evidence thats amusing. [12:10] matey fake progressives are the main kind. [12:12] matey kue sounds like a "lovely" person too [12:12] bnchs hello [12:12] matey o/ [12:15] bnchs so my dad bought a "smart" tv [12:16] bnchs specifically a lg webos [12:16] matey awful [12:16] bnchs well it's a step better than samsung's crap [12:16] bnchs it can be easily rooted [12:16] bnchs and i avoided SW updating it [12:17] matey fair enough i guess [12:17] matey /me wonders why this stuff has to be built into the tv when the alternative is a tiny box with a cable (like a roku) [12:18] matey tiny and easier to upgrade [12:18] bnchs also get a taste of these buzzwords [12:18] bnchs LG ThinQ AI [12:19] bnchs "AI upscaling" [12:19] matey sounds fancy [12:19] DaemonFC He's been living in that apartment since the AIDS crisis began. [12:19] DaemonFC So that's at least 40-42 years? [12:19] bnchs it's probably gonna be as shit as samsung's font-rendering system [12:19] matey like instead of alexa, a little robot with a bowtie and a towel over his arm comes out to ask if youd like a wine list [12:20] DaemonFC I wouldn't connect a TV to the Internet. [12:20] DaemonFC It's becoming hard to buy one that doesn't have "apps", but you can ignore the apps. [12:20] bnchs i didn't but i guess he did [12:21] matey /me doesnt own a tv, but at least you can still buy a monitor [12:21] DaemonFC It's built-in obsolescence. Within 5 years none of the apps work anymore even if you want to use them and you'd have to plug in a stick. [12:21] bnchs the remote has a fucking microphone [12:21] DaemonFC I don't know why apps in a TV are a selling point. [12:21] DaemonFC The screen may work for 20 years, but the apps won't work in 4 or 5. [12:21] matey its the gentrification of technology [12:21] bnchs they call it a "magic remote" [12:22] bnchs aka a wiimote with a microphone inside it [12:22] matey yeah i think some people got busted for turning some public toilets into "magic toilets" [12:22] DaemonFC To be perfectly honest, if it wasn't for the weight of them, and the fact that they're a power hog, I'd likely still be using a CRT television. [12:22] DaemonFC It's bad enough whenever you move, you hurt your back with all of the other stuff. [12:23] DaemonFC Most LED televisions today weigh just 15-20% of what a TV with half the screen size did in the CRT days. [12:23] *techrights_guest|34 (~50bb5031@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:23] bnchs because it's one thing i want [12:24] bnchs a TV that records what i say [12:24] bnchs calls it "magic [12:24] *techrights_guest|34 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [12:24] matey /me bought headphones that dont have bluetooth [12:24] matey thats not a problem, except they have a mic thats built in [12:25] matey thats not a problem, except laptop supports the connector with the built in mic [12:25] matey /me opened the headphones and removed the mic [12:25] bnchs "LG Magic Remote: The Voice Remote for LG AI Smart TVs" [12:25] bnchs "LG Voice Mate" [12:26] matey most headphones have a mic OR bluetooth. "neither" isnt much of an option unless you want earbuds [12:26] matey lg voice mate, the remote control that "mates" with you [12:26] DaemonFC It can't transmit that anywhere if you don't give it an Internet connection. [12:26] matey most headphones have a mic OR bluetooth <- obviously if you go higher end theres more selection [12:26] bnchs DaemonFC, he gave it [12:27] bnchs the joke is that the "magic" remote has dedicated buttons for streaming services [12:27] bnchs like disney+, netfilx and shit [12:27] matey the magic toilets also had streaming servi-- okay, okay [12:28] matey and shit <- you already said disney+ [12:28] bnchs LG magic AI toilet [12:28] bnchs has a microphone and camera [12:28] bnchs to monitor your shit [12:28] bnchs and LG shit mate [12:28] matey upload your farts to the cloud [12:29] matey alexa-- oh, sorry [12:30] matey people from the mid 20th century would not understand our modern hihg-tech toilet jokes [12:30] matey "whats a 'magic toilet'?" [12:30] matey "you really dont want to know. but if you REALLY want to know, just read 1984" [12:30] DaemonFC Disney Minus [12:31] matey "winston had been having trouble ever since he checked out that new restaurant" [12:31] DaemonFC I watched the first episode of that new Halo series. [12:31] DaemonFC It looks like Amazon has used it to clone The Mandalorian. [12:31] bnchs halo [12:31] matey o/ [12:31] bnchs aka microsoft-owned show [12:31] bnchs i mean game [12:31] bnchs and sohw [12:32] matey red vs blue was better [12:32] matey /me stopped watching it after they bought github [12:33] bnchs they put cortana as a character in halo [12:33] matey i thought it was the other way around [12:33] bnchs well it is [12:34] matey https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hd0Z2Ok3f1c the voice of cortana [12:34] bnchs they put cortana in windows [12:34] TR Bot Exclusive Interview with Jenn Taylor (the voice of Cortana) at E3 2013 - Invidious [12:34] bnchs with the voice actor of cortana [12:34] bnchs jenn taylor [12:35] bnchs wait wtf is this [12:35] bnchs "Microsoft's "Windows in the car" concept" [12:35] matey microsoft has been in cars for years [12:35] matey whats "windows in the car" [12:36] bnchs it was referenced in the cortana article [12:36] bnchs i think it's this https://medium.com/msft-space/windows-10-on-the-car-789c69863d56 [12:36] Alternative link Cloudflare: medium.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medium.com/msft-space/windows-10-on-the-car-789c69863d56 [12:36] TR Bot 10, in the car. Windows 10 is almost everywhere: its | by Mehedi Hassan | MSFT Space | Medium [12:36] bnchs "The idea for Windows 10 Auto is pretty simple. When you get in the car, you can simply dock your Windows 10 mobile into the car, or connect it via a wire which will automatically start Windows 10 Auto." [12:37] matey your windows 10 mobile? [12:38] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [12:38] bnchs yes [12:38] bnchs you plug your windows 10 mobile into the windows 10 car [12:38] bnchs so that you get introduced to more microsoft bullshit [12:38] matey /me digs up an old copy of "if microsoft made cars" from 199... whenever email was invented [12:39] matey (i know it was way before 1990) [12:39] matey 70s? [12:39] matey https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm [12:39] Alternative link Cloudflare: harvard.edu | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.hcs.harvard.edu/pnw/microsoftjoke.htm [12:39] TR Bot If Microsoft Made Cars [12:41] bnchs yes [12:41] bnchs now this time, when windows crashes [12:41] bnchs you're gonna lose control of the car and die [12:41] *CrystalMath (~coderain@2fvk393cmu6vk.irc) has joined #techrights [12:42] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [12:47] matey if you try to park, it will demand you drive around in circles for 45 minutes while it installs updates [12:49] bnchs no worse [12:49] bnchs when it finds an update, it will give you about 10 minutes [12:49] bnchs before it dies on the road [12:53] *scientes (~scientes@91.184.106.22) has joined #techrights [12:53] *scientes has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.56 k/sec., IPFS upstream 19.91 average k/sec., average swarm size 297.88 ● Mar 27 [13:05] DaemonFC Windows 10 car. S Mode. Microsoft Gas Station only. 30% surcharge. "For safety!" [13:06] DaemonFC I don't know how people are defending app stores that take 30% and leave you with no other choice. [13:06] MinceR http://www.dorktower.com/files/2022/03/Dorktower1945.jpg ( http://www.dorktower.com/2022/03/21/secret-saucy-dork-tower-21-03-22/ ) [13:06] TR Bot Secret Saucy DORK TOWER 21.03.22 Dork Tower [13:06] matey appathy [13:06] DaemonFC If they bought a car that made you use Shell gas stations and pay a 30% fee because you couldn't go to the Marathon gas station across the street becuase your car was designed not to run on it, would they accept this too? [13:06] MinceR worship of money [13:07] MinceR corporation has tons of money and therefore it is sacred [13:07] MinceR and can do no wrong [13:07] matey If they bought a car that made you use Shell gas stations and pay a 30% fee because you couldn't go to the Marathon gas station across the street becuase your car was designed not to run on it, would they accept this too? <- in the eu, probably [13:07] DaemonFC MinceR, A gas station up in Wisconsin was sued by other gas stations. [13:08] DaemonFC They are complaining that the station isn't charging as much as they are for gas, and demand $80,000 each in compensation. [13:08] matey wow [13:08] DaemonFC The station being sued is a Woodman's grocery store with a gas station in the parking lot. [13:09] DaemonFC The complaint reads that by charging people 30 cents less per gallon, nobody is going to the BP or Shell stations in the area because they know to go to Woodman's instead. [13:09] matey obviously theyve never heard of bjs [13:09] matey (its a chain of stores. i didnt name them) [13:10] matey (yes thats the name of the chain) [13:10] DaemonFC You can't make this shit up. They are using a state "unfair pricing" law arguing that people should be forced to pay more for gasoline. [13:10] DaemonFC The intent of the law appears to be that consumers can sue if they feel they're being gouged. [13:11] matey apparently it was poorly writtten [13:11] DaemonFC Maybe a consumer group should sue the BP and Shell stations complaining that they're being gouged and will be damaged if those stations succeed in their lawsuit against Woodman's, and therefore they are each owed free gasoline from BP and Shell as compensation. [13:11] DaemonFC "We are suing you because we are being harmed by your lawsuit against them." [13:13] DaemonFC Walmart has some really sad lemons. [13:13] DaemonFC I got some from Jewel that are twice as big and seedless for just 35 cents more per pound. [13:13] kingoffrance flexnet was the first hawaii ISP, and then at least had dial up over continental us at least. $9.95, no tech support. pass the savings on to you . anyhow, founder said he had similar accusations from the other ISPs at the time [13:13] kingoffrance */month. worked fine with bsd/linux/etc. [13:14] DaemonFC Well, if they really save money by offering no technical support then they're not unfairly pricing the product if it costs less and you don't need the tech support anyway. [13:14] DaemonFC Microsoft charges less for the version that comes without any tech support. [13:15] kingoffrance well i just mean, this probably happens more often, just not in public where people find out about it [13:15] DaemonFC Yes, Microsoft has a tech support hotline. I don't know why. [13:15] kingoffrance you are forcing me to lower my prices! criminal! [13:15] DaemonFC Everything they run you through is all of the fix me wizards that don't work, and then wiping the system and starting over, which also sometimes does not work. [13:15] kingoffrance ohn D. Rockefeller once professed, "competition is a sin." [13:16] DaemonFC It's a cute idea, fix me wizards all over Windows. [13:16] DaemonFC They could fix the bugs in the network stack, or.....they could just kick the network stack over and start it again. Tada! [13:16] kingoffrance its funny how they turned wizard which was probably more dynamic like "ninja" into "robot" [13:17] DaemonFC Start the wizard! Which wizard? [13:17] DaemonFC The Grand Imperial Wizard..... [13:17] DaemonFC Whoops, wrong wizard. [13:17] kingoffrance the intention i guess was to be "dynamic" but they only have so many "choose your own help desk adventure" paths [13:17] kingoffrance the times i used to use those, tend to just go in circles and once you exhaust all the paths and didnt solve your issue, "contact your system administrator" or whatever lol [13:19] kingoffrance i guess that is how tech support works too though. they have to go through script to eliminate all the common things, before you get any real support [13:19] kingoffrance it does sort of simulate tech support in that sense lol [13:19] matey after getting drung and playing pin the tail on the donkey, we have determined that the best course of action is to send a reset packet to your modem [13:20] matey really? thats the only answer youve ever given [13:20] matey "sure, but its our only excuse to drink at work" [13:20] DaemonFC I just used the free ISPs. [13:20] kingoffrance juno? [13:20] DaemonFC There were various ways of crashing the ad banners or getting your hashed login credentials and using regular Dial Up Networking. [13:20] DaemonFC Yeah, Juno was one of them. [13:21] DaemonFC When they all started going under, they spent a couple years limiting you to like 20-30 hours a month. [13:21] DaemonFC So I signed up for all of them and then I had like 150 hours each month. [13:21] matey lol [13:21] DaemonFC When one gave me the boot, I'd just dial into another account. [13:22] DaemonFC Well, they were meant to be ad supported, but that meant Windows program. [13:23] DaemonFC So I'd use a program called Dialguard to intercept the phone call and to catch the hashed username and password in Windows, then I knew what to type in to get it working in Mandrake Linux and on my Sega Dreamcast. [13:23] DaemonFC Then I could just sit there and play Quake III or something online. [13:24] DaemonFC Microsoft only recently shut down the Internet Games server for Windows Me. For the Internet Checkers and stuff. [13:24] DaemonFC I don't know why they even had those. [13:26] DaemonFC They limited the things you could tell the other player to stuff like "Nice move!" because they didn't want it to turn into stories like "49 year old man proposes indecent relationship with child over Microsoft Internet Checkers" so you couldn't even chat with your opponent. [13:26] DaemonFC And it just connected you to someone randomly, so you didn't know who you were playing against and you couldn't talk to them. [13:28] kingoffrance yeah i always found that strange [13:28] kingoffrance stuff like kali back in the day, you'd meet strangers first and chat and decide who to play with [13:29] kingoffrance this was like speed dating random people in the phone book lol [13:29] kingoffrance for those games i guess it didnt matter, but still weird [13:30] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@bang6rmx42i6a.irc) has joined #techrights [13:37] DaemonFC Dating is hell. I was reading about a guy who went out on dates with women at expensive restaurants and then slipped out and left them with the bill. [13:37] DaemonFC They finally caught him and charged him with 8 felony counts of theft by deception. [13:37] DaemonFC One of them was interviewed and said he just kept eating and eating. Especially the crab legs. [13:38] DaemonFC And she was shocked that such a small guy could put away so much food. [13:40] DaemonFC MinceR, I like Red Dwarf. Especially Arnold Rimmer. They were talking about people who had made the ultimate sacrifice. [13:41] DaemonFC And Rimmer says, "Ah yes, Captain Oates....Well, they obviously forged his journal. They're not going to say January 5th, ate the last bits of Captain Oates dabbed in gravy with the last packet of instant mashed potatoes.". [13:42] MinceR :> [13:43] MinceR one would hope they'd eat all the packets of instant mashed potatoes _before_ they resort to cannibalism [13:43] *matey has quit (connection closed) [13:43] bnchs DaemonFC: lol [13:44] bnchs that guy doesn't love women [13:44] bnchs he just uses women to get what he really loves, food [13:45] DaemonFC one would hope they'd eat all the packets of instant mashed potatoes _before_ they resort to cannibalism [13:46] DaemonFC Well, it's deliberate. It tells you how much of a misanthrope Rimmer really is. [13:46] bnchs anyway thats based [13:46] DaemonFC They resorted to eating Captain Oates along with all the rest of the food to make the food last longer. [13:46] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [13:46] DaemonFC Because then Oates wouldn't get any, and they could eat him as well. [13:48] TR News Top 10 Linux Distributions for Programmers in 2022 [Featured] Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163045 [13:48] TR Bot Top 10 Linux Distributions for Programmers in 2022 [Featured] | Tux Machines [13:48] TR News Ubuntu-Based Feren OS 2022.03 Released with KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS, Various Improvements Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163046 [13:48] TR Bot Ubuntu-Based Feren OS 2022.03 Released with KDE Plasma 5.24 LTS, Various Improvements | Tux Machines [13:49] MinceR :> [13:50] bnchs linux distributions for programmers [13:51] bnchs what does this mean [13:51] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [13:54] schestowitz-TR it makes sense [13:54] schestowitz-TR but maybe can be spun with words [13:54] *DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) [13:54] schestowitz-TR because the CLI is, in essence, a programming tool [13:54] *matey (~matey@774nwuxzfj494.irc) has joined #techrights [13:55] schestowitz-TR at the very least in batching [13:55] schestowitz-TR like .BAT files [13:55] schestowitz-TR but sure, it can do more [13:55] schestowitz-TR bash, ksh etc [13:55] matey lol [13:55] schestowitz-TR some distros go out of their wayo to hide it [13:55] schestowitz-TR so those also exclude some useful tools [13:56] schestowitz-TR you might be able to add them [13:56] schestowitz-TR if they are in the repos [13:56] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22032211 [13:56] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/091iciwa8kn81.jpg created on 2022-03-22 03:15:05.023076 [13:56] schestowitz-TR otherwise it's tricky [13:56] schestowitz-TR so as a programmer you might have precompiled IDEs [13:56] schestowitz-TR a good distro for programmers makes it easy to access and use dev tools [13:56] schestowitz-TR or, like in gentoo, customise your experience [13:57] schestowitz-TR like change (e.g. remove) some bits before the OS gets compiled [13:57] bnchs schestowitz-TR, how would you deal with a """smart""" tv [13:57] schestowitz-TR I'm too smart to buy one [13:57] MinceR deprive it of an Internet connection :> [13:57] schestowitz-TR I've not had a TV in more than 20 years ;-) [13:58] bnchs schestowitz-TR, it's a "smart" tv for dumb people [13:58] bnchs just like dumb tv for smart people [13:58] schestowitz-TR MinceR: if you trust it not to [13:58] schestowitz-TR we have open wifi connection [13:59] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights ● Mar 27 [14:00] MinceR we don't [14:00] bnchs it uses a proprietary OS [14:00] bnchs with linux kernel [14:01] MinceR even non-"smart" tv-s do [14:01] schestowitz-TR [12:02] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.theguardian.com | San Francisco activist behind Aids quilt to leave home after rent doubles to $5,200 | San Francisco | The Guardian [14:01] MinceR for example, the monitor tv on my desk runs Linux [14:01] MinceR and it's not a "smart" tv [14:01] schestowitz-TR "sorry, sir, you let an extra 0 slip in there.." [14:01] schestowitz-TR (orrrrr.......) [14:01] bnchs MinceR: but they don't have as much power than "smart" tvs do [14:01] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [14:02] matey not part of gnu: https://www.gnugk.org/ [14:02] TR Bot GNU Gatekeeper - a free VOIP Gatekeeper for H.323 [14:02] schestowitz-TR GNU Greg Korah [14:02] schestowitz-TR Kroah [14:03] MinceR :> [14:03] matey gnuvell? [14:03] schestowitz-TR Kroah Heartless [14:03] matey wikipedia: "GNU Gatekeeper is an open-source project that implements an H.323 Gatekeeper based on the OpenH323 or H323Plus stack." [14:03] matey "GNU Gatekeeper is an open-source" [14:03] schestowitz-TR with a DASH [14:04] schestowitz-TR which means NOT compliant with OSF [14:04] schestowitz-TR *OSD [14:04] matey osf = open source foundation? [14:04] bnchs schestowitz-TR, you mean patents? [14:04] matey open software foundation? [14:04] schestowitz-TR There used to be OSA [14:04] schestowitz-TR Alliance [14:04] schestowitz-TR iIRC, Microsoft killed it [14:04] schestowitz-TR by joining it [14:04] matey funny how they do that [14:04] schestowitz-TR the other member got so pissed off [14:05] schestowitz-TR that the criminal that bribes official is not "part" of the same thing [14:05] schestowitz-TR why would they pay into it? [14:05] schestowitz-TR and it collapsed [14:05] matey https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/GNU_Gatekeeper [14:05] TR Bot GNU Gatekeeper - Free Software Directory [14:05] schestowitz-TR that was like 15 years agi [14:05] schestowitz-TR *ago [14:05] matey verified by "ted teah" [14:05] schestowitz-TR I think we covered it at the time [14:05] bnchs so i dug deeper into the software that the "smart" tv runs [14:05] matey Jan Willamowius Maintainer [14:05] bnchs it's webos [14:06] *kingoffrance has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:06] schestowitz-TR palmos->HP->LG [14:06] schestowitz-TR Samsung uses Tizen and other stuff [14:06] bnchs there's webos open source edition which is not open source nor free [14:06] schestowitz-TR it was never 'proper' open [14:06] schestowitz-TR even Palm Inc. would not release it [14:07] schestowitz-TR Cobalt or whatever they called it around 2004-5 [14:07] schestowitz-TR they just said "Linux' [14:07] bnchs phone manufactors making their own crappy OSes [14:07] bnchs to lock in people more [14:08] matey this project is 20 years old [14:08] schestowitz-TR not just phones [14:08] schestowitz-TR tablets similarly [14:08] schestowitz-TR desktops/laptops it's a mix [14:08] bnchs yes [14:08] matey https://www.gnugk.org/download/OSTS2004.pdf <- 2004 [14:08] bnchs they bought it from palm and HP [14:08] schestowitz-TR because you can swap [14:09] schestowitz-TR at one point HP made its own distro [14:09] bnchs they did this to limit the amount of customizability the user can do [14:09] schestowitz-TR and it seemed like the criminal killed it (MicrosofT) [14:09] schestowitz-TR lots of mergers and splits in mobile linux [14:09] bnchs in android-based, the source code of android was free [14:09] bnchs and widely-available [14:09] bnchs with many custom ROMs [14:10] schestowitz-TR tizen, limo, moblin (intel)... [14:10] bnchs you could port a custom ROM to a device provided you know it's technical details [14:10] schestowitz-TR Orange had its own too around LinuxWorld 2005 [14:10] bnchs so they tried to fight this [14:10] bnchs they made their own OS with rarely any custom ROMs [14:10] schestowitz-TR Nokia made about 3 Linux-based OSes [14:10] schestowitz-TR Microsoft killed them al [14:10] schestowitz-TR the criminals are good at killing things [14:10] schestowitz-TR not making things [14:11] schestowitz-TR jolla is still around [14:11] bnchs the point is [14:11] schestowitz-TR they now call it sailfishOS [14:11] bnchs why would LG not use android [14:11] schestowitz-TR and other names [14:11] bnchs and even then [14:11] bnchs why would they keep the source code closed [14:11] *x_ (~x__@4mmu4fx6g3jvs.irc) has joined #techrights [14:12] bnchs which brings me to my theory, they did this to get away from android [14:12] bnchs which had many custom ROMs [14:12] bnchs and all of them easily portable [14:13] TR News Parrot OS 5.0 Adds New Architect, IoT, and Cloud With Long Term Support Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163047 [14:13] TR Bot Parrot OS 5.0 Adds New Architect, IoT, and Cloud With Long Term Support | Tux Machines [14:15] schestowitz-TR bnchs: for android there was oha [14:15] schestowitz-TR open handset alliance [14:15] schestowitz-TR around 2008 or 07 [14:15] schestowitz-TR that was gulag's way of getting the forkers and branchers in the same boat [14:15] schestowitz-TR instead of them taking aosp and then doing their own thing [14:16] schestowitz-TR to cause 'fragmentation' [14:16] bnchs even then, in the webos hacking/cracking community [14:16] bnchs they only managed to modify the kernel [14:16] bnchs they couldn't modify more than that before it was proprietary [14:16] bnchs and maybe inject some "apps" [14:17] schestowitz-TR app yours [14:18] bnchs they made their own OSes to gain back control of the users [14:18] schestowitz-TR wow, this 3-hour video will take 10 hours to encode on 4 cores [14:18] bnchs and only gave them a small piece of the source code [14:18] bnchs and maybe the kernel (because GPL and shit) [14:18] schestowitz-TR maybe I should split the video, process on numerous machines with ffmpeg, than merge the resultant files [14:18] schestowitz-TR but it would be a lot of work passing around the files [14:25] schestowitz (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D184.jpg [14:25] matey github.com/AdaCore/gnat-llvm [14:25] matey This is an Ada compiler based on LLVM, connecting the GNAT front-end to the LLVM code generator to generate LLVM bitcode for Ada and to open the LLVM ecosystem to Ada. Note that we are not planning on replacing any existing GNAT port that's based on GCC: this project is meant to provide additional, not replacement, GNAT ports. [14:25] matey :) [14:27] bnchs github [14:27] MinceR :3 [14:27] bnchs ada > rust [14:28] matey officially its fine that its developed on github because copyright is assigned to the fsf [14:28] MinceR http://www.dorktower.com/files/2022/03/Dorktower1946.jpg ( http://www.dorktower.com/2022/03/23/hold-the-pickles-dork-tower-23-03-21/ ) [14:28] TR Bot Hold the Pickles DORK TOWER 23.03.21 Dork Tower [14:29] matey rms: Do Not Use Github (for gnu) [14:29] bnchs matey: developed on github on behalf of fsf? [14:29] matey adacore: hold my beer [14:29] bnchs or is it just a mirror [14:29] matey also adacore: its fine, we assigned copyright [14:29] matey its not just a mirror [14:29] matey i dont care about (actual) mirrors [14:29] *x_ is now known as kingoffrance [14:30] matey this isnt new, ive known about this for more than a year. the only new part is gnat-llvm, which i thought was slightly amusing [14:30] matey but its not a replacement, its just a porn [14:30] matey port [14:30] matey maybe unix porn [14:30] bnchs it's just porn [14:31] schestowitz-TR mirrors are not a huge deal [14:31] matey muscle memory and alexy are similarly treacherous [14:31] schestowitz-TR just do not accept "PRs" [14:31] matey its not a mirror [14:31] schestowitz-TR or allow "Issues" [14:31] schestowitz-TR it's the same with Twitter as a copy of diaspora posts [14:31] matey thats the criteria i go by basically [14:31] schestowitz-TR the problem is, you still receive replies in Twitter [14:32] matey all you have to do with prs is 1. say please dont send prs in the readme.md [14:32] matey 2. close prs with "please do not send prs" [14:32] matey if at that point you still get spammed with prs somehow, dont respond [14:32] matey then its a strict mirror [14:33] matey many so-called mirrors are acting like repos [14:33] matey some strict mirrors are actually strict, thats good [14:33] bnchs schestowitz-TR, lol that's what they do [14:33] matey even if the mirror doesnt follow a strick policy, but it looks abandoned, thats alright [14:33] bnchs they can't disable PRs [14:33] bnchs so they simply ignore PRs [14:33] matey they dont ahve to disable prs [14:33] bnchs or redirect them to the mailing list [14:34] matey i stop counting it as a mirror if they start using prs [14:34] matey but if they dont respond (or better, close and redirect) thats not so bad [14:35] matey the thing is, you cant stop people from mirroring free software [14:35] matey so it also matters who put it there [14:35] matey theres no way to script this stuff-- its detective work [14:35] matey even machine learning wouldnt be terribly useful for this [14:37] matey of course you could have scripts pick up some of the data for you, but they couldnt evaluate it anyway [14:38] matey https://www.gnu.org/software/pth/ <- not github based, author is active on github (this year) 227 projects [14:39] matey so the project is okay, but the developer still thinks github isnt a problem [14:39] matey we are going to find out i think that MOST gnu devs dont consider github a problem [14:39] matey which says a lot about gnu imo [14:39] matey or the state of free software [14:40] matey historically, it says nothing about gnu. this applies to the state of it today [14:40] kingoffrance or the state of "free hosting" [14:40] matey historically gnu is maybe the most important operating system created (unix itself being major competition for this title) [14:40] matey or the state of "free hosting" <- thats letting them off easy [14:41] bnchs matey: oh my gawd the dev has a github?? [14:41] matey there have been usable alternatives to github since before the purchase [14:41] bnchs holy shit this is the state of GNU [14:41] bnchs gnu is like dying [14:41] matey straw man. [14:41] bnchs even though the source code is primarily hosted in GNU [14:41] bnchs matey: yeah i know [14:41] matey what im saying is, most gnu devs probably dont think its a problem that microsoft has mostly taken over free software [14:42] matey because they keep using it. [14:42] kingoffrance "there have been usable alternatives" sure sure sure but 1) like what 2) why are devs avoiding them [14:42] kingoffrance what are the justifications? not saying tehy are good or bad "reasons" [14:42] matey kingoffrance when microsoft bought github, 200,000 people left [14:42] matey sourceforge, notabug [14:43] matey savannah is based on sourceforge (an old free version of it) [14:43] bnchs i would say [14:43] bnchs sourceforge hosts CVS aswell [14:43] matey also framagit (now closed) [14:43] kingoffrance hmm, didnt know that about savannah [14:43] matey many people left for gitlab [14:43] matey and now there is sr.ht [14:43] matey just to add to viable options [14:43] matey for selt hosting there is also gitea [14:44] matey self [14:44] matey and these are just the least stupid examples (imo) [14:44] matey for stupid examples (but not as stupid as trusting microsoft) there are still more [14:44] kingoffrance is it ironic wasnt git written because bitkeeper wasnt quite "free" ...and now people jump right into github [14:44] matey you know savannah isnt only for gnu? its also for nongnu.org [14:45] kingoffrance s/ironic/repeat of history/ [14:45] matey if by ironic you mean part of a multi-billion dollar strategy to take over free software, then yes [14:45] bnchs you need to give money to sourcehut [14:45] bnchs to put your project there [14:45] bnchs which i understand [14:45] matey i didnt know sr.ht was paid [14:45] matey at least they have a business model [14:45] kingoffrance well i mean people should have learned the first time [14:47] matey non-profit hosting works too [14:47] matey at least in theory [14:47] matey in practice its holding up better than the organisations themselves [14:47] matey as long as you dont need them to do guidance or advocacy [14:47] matey or fundraising [14:49] matey a lot of projects are very small and their needs are modest [14:49] matey github is honestly overkill for those [14:50] matey but when people look to leave they want-- basically microsoft word to do a shopping list [14:50] schestowitz-TR [14:33] they dont ahve to disable prs [14:50] schestowitz-TR it's vendor lockin [14:50] matey what i meant was [14:50] schestowitz-TR Microsoft won't let them turn it off [14:50] matey if they are unable to disable prs [14:50] schestowitz-TR but such mirrors wont' save the github near-monopoly [14:50] matey then all they have to do is politely refuse them and tell people to use the [14:50] matey there are existing practices for running a strict mirror [14:50] matey they work [14:50] schestowitz-TR just like twitter cannot, by letting people make "mirrors" there [14:50] schestowitz-TR twitter is dying [14:51] matey people that care keep the mirror strict [14:51] schestowitz-TR they hide this by funneling remainig traffics to celebs and politicians [14:51] schestowitz-TR *remaining* [14:51] matey at any rate, i dont panic about strict mirrors [14:51] schestowitz-TR to fake "Engagement" levels, in essence by funneling [14:51] matey but mirrors that turn into secondary repos run the risk of moving to github as the primary repo [14:52] matey by not standing up to the lock-in [14:52] schestowitz-TR true [14:52] schestowitz-TR Torvalds isn't tolerating it [14:52] schestowitz-TR deep inside he knows github is an attack on git [14:52] schestowitz-TR but his boss is COO of GitHunb [14:52] schestowitz-TR which is funny [14:52] schestowitz-TR COO [14:52] schestowitz-TR think about it [14:52] matey linux doesnt have to be inside microsoft-- microsoft is inside linux [14:52] schestowitz-TR that's her job at LF [14:52] schestowitz-TR she is part of the COO [14:53] matey (theres peanut butter in my chocolate) [14:53] matey lf is also an attack on git [14:53] matey sfc is an attack on git [14:53] kingoffrance well, just put up goatse when someone sends a PR [14:53] matey the fact that prs exist isnt the problem [14:53] schestowitz-TR sfc is hardly even important [14:53] kingoffrance theyll get the message quick [14:54] matey the problem is that while some projects discourage them, most dont care [14:54] matey sfc is hardly even important <- prove it [14:54] schestowitz-TR let's work in reverse [14:54] schestowitz-TR prove they ARE importantt [14:54] schestowitz-TR they failed to oust RMS [14:54] matey disputed [14:55] schestowitz-TR and they through many resources and even their reputation into the bonfire [14:55] matey and even their reputation into the bonfire <- demonstrably false [14:55] schestowitz-TR gnome foundation [14:55] schestowitz-TR osi [14:55] schestowitz-TR look what happened [14:55] matey if their reputation is in the toilet, why do so many high-profile projects (including git) still do business with them [14:55] schestowitz-TR osi head vanished [14:55] matey which osi head? [14:56] schestowitz-TR gnome: bully de blanc and her boss gone [14:56] schestowitz-TR deb came from sfc [14:56] schestowitz-TR where she had raised ms money [14:56] schestowitz-TR also oin while microsoft bought shares in it [14:56] matey deb came from fsf, where she was in charge of membership for ages [14:56] schestowitz-TR after fsf [14:56] matey then she defected to sfc and osi [14:56] schestowitz-TR and now nothing [14:57] matey or perhaps sfc is the new osi [14:57] schestowitz-TR there are two side [14:57] schestowitz-TR side a [14:57] schestowitz-TR side b [14:57] schestowitz-TR if you leave side a to b [14:57] schestowitz-TR and then discredited in b [14:57] schestowitz-TR you are done [14:57] matey osi = {lf, sfc, clearlydefined} [14:57] schestowitz-TR bully and others are barely employable [14:57] matey thats where they went [14:58] schestowitz-TR they were thrown under the bus [14:58] schestowitz-TR or made to fall on the sword [14:58] schestowitz-TR and they took a bad position [14:58] schestowitz-TR like chief exec of osi [14:58] schestowitz-TR he will be disposable [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 30.81 k/sec., IPFS upstream 43.25 average k/sec., average swarm size 291.56 [14:59] schestowitz-TR like people who went to work for andrew lee in freenode [14:59] schestowitz-TR maybe got a salary or two [14:59] schestowitz-TR and that was it [14:59] matey you say the same about ibm and github [14:59] matey its all just going to magically disappear [14:59] schestowitz-TR now they're labeled as the people who took freenode from hero to zero [14:59] matey twitter and fb too [14:59] schestowitz-TR it's complicated [14:59] matey its ridiculous [14:59] schestowitz-TR the us government bails them out [14:59] schestowitz-TR because they're strategically beneficial to empire ● Mar 27 [15:00] schestowitz-TR so they are becoming a burden on taxpayers [15:00] schestowitz-TR like "too biug to fail" banks [15:00] schestowitz-TR how does goldman sachs help the us taxpayer? [15:00] matey you realise the one thing that can save them is downplaying the threats they pose, yes? [15:01] matey historically, thats what saves such things [15:01] matey or makes them last longer [15:01] kingoffrance thats why theres "big tech" [15:01] schestowitz-TR giafam? [15:01] kingoffrance ^ [15:01] matey thats why theres "big tech" <- a term roy insists helps microsoft [15:01] kingoffrance gets all the heat off ms + gov. [15:01] schestowitz-TR matey: no [15:01] schestowitz-TR I show leaks [15:02] schestowitz-TR it's a term Microsoft lobbyists promoted [15:02] schestowitz-TR while Microsoft did lots of crimes [15:02] kingoffrance i dont know, but i tend to believe schestowitz-TR because it only showed up recently IMO [15:02] kingoffrance all the "free market" types LOVED ms through the 90s [15:02] kingoffrance capital success story [15:02] schestowitz-TR microsoft for exposed [15:02] kingoffrance evil DOJ is just jealous yo [15:02] kingoffrance haters hate success [15:02] schestowitz-TR and then they changed the news cycle [15:02] schestowitz-TR by faking a "leak" of Vista 11 [15:02] schestowitz-TR previously unheard of [15:02] kingoffrance and then out of nowhere...one day came "big tech" narrative [15:03] matey big tech can be used against microsoft [15:03] matey just say theyre part of it [15:03] schestowitz-TR and it was just Vista 10 with some UI tweaks [15:03] kingoffrance am i to believe all these "business people" suddenly 180ed? dont buy it. [15:03] matey imo [15:03] kingoffrance i have no proof, but i tend to believe schestowitz-TR on "big tech" [15:03] matey o i believe his story about the lobbyists [15:03] kingoffrance *capitalist [15:04] matey but the big tech narrative is one that people can get behind, if it can be shown that microsoft is part of it [15:04] schestowitz-TR i'll get you the links [15:04] matey just say microsoft IS big tech [15:04] matey i dont need the links, ive seen them. [15:04] matey im not disputing the lobbying [15:04] schestowitz getting the news links [15:04] matey gafa was specific [15:05] matey it excluded microsoft [15:05] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031953 [15:05] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/dwzr5ztlf4o81.jpg created on 2022-03-19 23:41:54.718334 [15:05] matey so gafam pins m microsoft back onto microsofts own diversion [15:05] matey its silly to think the same cant be done with big tech-- its exactly the same trick [15:05] schestowitz the videos I did about this include http://techrights.org/2021/06/29/microsoft-behind-big-tech-narrative/ and http://techrights.org/2021/06/24/microsoft-attacking-linux-from-the-inside/ [15:05] TR Bot Microsoft is a Lot Worse Than Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple | Techrights [15:05] TR Bot Politicians Need to Crack Down on Microsofts Monopoly Abuse Amid Yet More Attacks on Linux (Even From the Inside) | Techrights [15:06] matey anyway, github helps microsoft more than the words "big tech" do [15:06] kingoffrance i would say similar trick about "twitter" being "private" ...with their manual of recommendations for gov usage [15:06] kingoffrance put on your columbo hat matey [15:06] matey and that was lobbied for for literally years [15:06] schestowitz https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/ [15:06] Alternative link Cloudflare: dailycaller.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://dailycaller.com/2021/06/23/microsoft-house-judiciary-committee-thomas-massie/ [15:06] TR Bot EXCLUSIVE: Whistleblower Document Appears To Show Microsoft Helped Write Big Tech Bills | The Daily Caller [15:06] schestowitz https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-23/microsoft-may-duck-house-antitrust-push-as-republicans-cry-foul [15:06] TR Bot - Are you a robot? [15:06] *kingoffrance i'm private! 'im public! [15:07] matey i think the problem kingoffrance is youre trying to convince me of something i already see [15:08] matey microsoft is big tech [15:08] matey it can be used against them just as much as "gafam" is [15:08] matey originally gafa [15:08] kingoffrance id say the same with cryptocoin, but may be exceptions [15:09] matey the thing is, theres a lot of "awareness" (read: exposure) to "big tech" [15:09] matey beacuse of the lobbying [15:09] matey that could be hijacked and turned directly against microsoft [15:09] schestowitz-TR faang is even worse a term [15:10] schestowitz-TR if you consider what firms are listed and why [15:10] schestowitz-TR it's worse than microsoft whataboutism [15:10] matey /me has never come across faang except here [15:10] matey i think it was a prototype for gafa [15:10] schestowitz-TR gafam is me and assange [15:10] schestowitz-TR we came up with it in twitter [15:10] matey theres no reason big tech couldnt be used the same way [15:11] matey microsoft IS big tech [15:11] matey gates is still one of the 10 richest people on earth [15:11] matey so is ballmer [15:11] matey not sure whats keeping nadella [15:12] schestowitz-TR a lot of it is grossly overvalued stock [15:12] schestowitz-TR basically bubble [15:12] schestowitz-TR defrauding shareholders [15:12] schestowitz-TR the inside traders can win this [15:12] schestowitz-TR at the expense of middle class savers [15:16] kingoffrance i dont disagree matey about turning it back on them, just think its better if people ignore all the catch phrases [15:16] kingoffrance in the long run [15:17] *kingoffrance whispers marketing people HATE this secret [15:18] *kingoffrance whispers THEY dont want you to know [15:19] kingoffrance its like the "everything is a file" catch phrases lead to straw men attacks [15:20] kingoffrance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law someone should make that into an opera or something [15:20] TR Bot Brandolini's law - Wikipedia [15:20] kingoffrance brandolini brandolini [15:21] schestowitz-TR windows registry is also a file [15:21] schestowitz-TR just not a very good file [15:22] schestowitz-TR fragile, flaky [15:22] kingoffrance yeah, exactly! [15:22] schestowitz-TR maybe many files for the same thing [15:22] schestowitz-TR iirc, over a decade ago gnome emulated the same broken design [15:24] bnchs windows registry is a file? [15:25] bnchs so basically, whats wrong with /etc [15:31] matey just think its better if people ignore all the catch phrases <- it is better. but we live in a world where most people dont [15:31] matey the question imo is what to do with that [15:32] matey "big tech" "actually that just helps microsoft" <- one approach, valid [15:32] matey "big tech" "including microsoft, yes" <- another approach [15:32] matey and basically what gafam did [15:32] matey because gafa was "big tech" beta version [15:32] schestowitz-TR (backing up breaking machine) [15:32] schestowitz-TR (ssd) [15:33] matey iirc, over a decade ago gnome emulated the same broken design <- gconf [15:33] schestowitz-TR LMDE 5 and KDE Neon are nice, gnu/linux has gotten super-easy to install and is VERY nice out of the box [15:33] matey en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gconf-editor [15:33] matey From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Gconf-editor is a discontinued utility for the GNOME desktop environment used to maintain the old and now discontinued GNOME registry gconf [15:33] schestowitz-TR devuan and debian text-based installers are only for pro users [15:34] kingoffrance you look in the jargon file, you see ibm and the 7 dwarves. then ibm and the bunch. and "dinosaur mating" . that explains "dino babies" -- trying to desparately spin that they are not a dinosaur. [15:34] schestowitz-TR my LAN over wifi gives me about 1gbytes/mins [15:34] matey GConf was replaced by GSettings mechanism (provided by GLib) which uses dconf as backend by default if it's available but can use keyfile backend or GConf backend (legacy only); memory backend (RAM only) and null backend [15:34] kingoffrance point: "big tech' was alway around, nothing new 2) "big tech' will hijack phrases for their own benefit [15:34] schestowitz-TR big oil, big banks [15:34] schestowitz-TR banks= bailouit [15:34] matey "big tech' will hijack phrases for their own benefit <- even gnu and free software [15:34] schestowitz-TR oil-subsidy [15:34] schestowitz-TR what next? [15:34] kingoffrance you said it best matey : without cause and effect all meaning is lost [15:35] schestowitz-TR taxpayers-funded and bailed out ICBM and MSFT? [15:35] kingoffrance its kind of pathetic, why does ibm think the jargon file is a threat lol [15:35] schestowitz-TR while the execs cash in big? [15:35] schestowitz-TR ballmer, gates, blankfien... [15:35] schestowitz-TR *fein [15:35] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [15:35] kingoffrance its like accusations about putin living in 1900 or whatever [15:36] kingoffrance part of this too i think is appearance of "progress" or "progressivism" has to always be maintaned, doubly so for steps backwards [15:36] kingoffrance i wouldnt call it "bias" i would call it marketing spin [15:37] matey where the gconf (gnome registry) gsettings moved to: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html [15:37] TR Bot XDG Base Directory Specification [15:37] matey its kind of pathetic, why does ibm think the jargon file is a threat lol <- because people thinking for themselves is a threat to marketing (and vice versa) [15:37] kingoffrance emphasis on "apperance" [15:37] kingoffrance *appearance [15:38] kingoffrance trump said the same in not so many words. he was injecting new life into a dead party in his mind [15:38] matey big surprise, mr systemd is on the board of the gnome registry XDG Base Directory Specification [15:38] kingoffrance (not going there, just saying it transcends "wings") [15:38] kingoffrance (or: it can be pulled off with a "conservative" facade as well) [15:39] matey you can put a face on anything-- look at cars [15:39] matey o ___ o [15:39] kingoffrance yeah, that's a good phrase [15:39] kingoffrance russian dolls lol [15:40] matey one of then signed the anti stallman letter https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html [15:40] matey good luck guessing which [15:40] matey (nope) [15:44] kingoffrance "so basically, whats wrong with /etc" nothing, just if the original meaning is lost (plaintext, simplicity, pipelines, versus custom binary formats with specialized tools) then it becomes a mess. i do think it breaks at some point, like any abstraction, i.e. plaintext configuration files eventually become their own specialized formats needing special tools. but then IMO that shows it is not the "everything is a file" or not mentality that i [15:44] kingoffrance s to blame [15:44] kingoffrance problem is post-utf "there is no plaintext" [15:44] kingoffrance so it is confusion of tongues now [15:45] kingoffrance or people mixing metaphors anyway [15:47] matey theres a fallacy whenever you do this [15:47] kingoffrance you step in the stream, but the stream has moved on [15:47] matey language has always mutated-- you seem to base a lot of arguments on the fact that there was an "established" meaning and now its "confused" [15:48] matey but the established meaning of yesterday was the confused meaning of the age before it [15:48] kingoffrance sure. [15:48] kingoffrance i dont deny that [15:48] matey that doesnt mean it cant get worse-- [15:48] matey but it was never perfect to begin with [15:48] kingoffrance ^ [15:49] kingoffrance so there both always was something wrong with "everything is a file" and something not wrong with it [15:49] matey granted [15:50] matey "everything is a file" was either hype, or a nice idea that was abandoned for practical (HOPEFULLY practical) reasons [15:50] kingoffrance ultimately it is going to be that permitted discoursse window, daemon knows what it is called, i forget [15:50] matey at best it is a tendency [15:50] matey maybe a "style" or even an "approach" but certainly not a law [15:51] matey if we treat styles as law, who do we have to blame but ourselves [15:51] kingoffrance well it is a moot point, pipelines are long dead [15:51] matey youre kidding [15:51] kingoffrance perl/python/ all the scripting languages went another direction [15:51] matey theyre used daily [15:51] matey nope [15:51] kingoffrance perl and python are pipelines? [15:52] kingoffrance do one thing do it well? [15:52] kingoffrance ruby? [15:52] matey oh ok [15:52] matey i see what you mean [15:52] matey when you said pipelines [15:52] matey i assumed | you meant | pipelines [15:53] matey you mean unix philosophy [15:53] kingoffrance one sec [15:53] matey take your time [15:54] kingoffrance https://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf [15:54] matey i already know that url, that guy is a fucking idiot [15:54] kingoffrance has nothign to do with url [15:55] matey its the pdf? [15:55] kingoffrance references are 1984 is the latest [15:55] matey ok [15:56] matey oh, pike and kernighan [15:56] matey i believe pike (moved to google) was the one who pushed for the pipe, back when it was > [15:57] matey but there was another, mcsomething [15:57] matey maybe its in the pdf [15:57] kingoffrance let me mention how many package managers tehre are [15:57] kingoffrance and draw a parallel with 5 volume controls lol [15:57] kingoffrance for each of those additional languages [15:58] matey so all theyre saying is cat got out of hand [15:58] kingoffrance :) yes, but that was 1980s already out of hand [15:58] kingoffrance not sure of exact date of that paper [15:58] kingoffrance it was already fading [15:59] matey let me make a parallel to refute this. [15:59] matey its a historical one [15:59] matey you might even like it [15:59] kingoffrance why does each language need a package manager? its not for unix philosophy, its becaues tehy watn to run on other OSes besides "unix" [15:59] matey right [15:59] psydruid > big tech can be used against microsoft [15:59] psydruid > just say theyre part of it [15:59] psydruid exactly what I think too [15:59] MinceR because every package manager sucks ● Mar 27 [16:00] matey but thats a loaded question-- no language needs a package manager, even if its cross platform [16:00] matey /me thinks mincers answer is the right one [16:01] matey so there used to be this theory-- which later suited the sensibilities of nationalist idiots [16:01] matey that aryans came and conquored all the people of the indus valley [16:01] matey with their superior culture and technology and weapons and warfare etc. [16:01] matey came in, wiped out everyone [16:01] matey took over, established the foundations of modern indian civilisation [16:02] matey brought hinduism (which didnt exist then, but what is now hinduism, etc) [16:02] MinceR nationalist idiots forgot that the aryans were brown people too [16:02] matey well yeah but i mean brown nationalist idiots, not even the nazis (who bought the same story but couldnt afford technicolor because there was a war on) [16:03] matey india has nationalists too, theyre a bit wrapped up in it at the moment [16:03] kingoffrance likewise, lets quote python: We needed a better way to do system administration than by writing either C programs or Bourne shell scripts, since Amoeba had its own system call interface which wasnt easily accessible from the Bourne shel [16:03] matey only "problem" is, they did genetic research on this thoery [16:04] matey lets NEVER quote python. youd get better design ideas from any raving lunatic reeking of booze on the side of the road than youd get from the "stewards" of modern python [16:04] matey id sooner use perl than whats become of python [16:05] kingoffrance im not saying that is bad, im saying amoeba was a specific unix-like thing, that they didnt think shell was a good fit for [16:05] matey anyway, the genetic makeup doesnt support the "superior aryan" theory [16:05] kingoffrance which is not to say that was even the "wrong" decision, just i dont see unix philosophy had anything to do with it either way [16:05] matey they didnt wipe out the ancestors [16:05] matey they mingled. [16:05] kingoffrance yes, unix is a mingling of prior ideas? [16:05] matey the people of the indus valley are the descendants of both the aryans and the people they "wiped out" [16:06] matey unix has mingled with other ideas-- its not wiped out at all [16:06] matey granted it has mingled with some pretty bad ideas sometimes [16:07] matey but if i wanted to use version 1, id be working on reviving version 1 [16:07] matey thats not a goal of mine [16:07] matey i like SOME of the ideas that have come along since then [16:07] matey some of them are awful too [16:07] matey some of them should be thrown out-- and we should have choices [16:08] matey but MOST of the messes are created by people trying to take us from what works for us [16:08] matey and dragging us through fad after fad using market pressure [16:08] matey and obviously im against that [16:08] kingoffrance "why does each language need a package manager?" i should add, this is another reason "why cannot rust or speak its native tongue at ABI level?" is ridiculous. people dont even agree on high level "package managers" where it should be easier to 'abstract", let alone low level things [16:08] matey freedom 3 should make us immune to that! https://www.fsfla.org/ikiwiki/blogs/lxo/pub/new-dawn.en.html [16:09] TR Bot ::[FSFLA]:: A New Dawn for Software Freedom [16:09] matey but freedom 3 is a bit more fragile than the fsf admits (or even understands) [16:09] matey in fact the unix philosophy (which rms openly never gave a shit about) is a boon to freedom 3 [16:09] matey and without it, freedom 3 may (continue to) suffer [16:09] psydruid people in Europe are also descendants of indigenous populations and people closely related to the Aryans who settled in India [16:10] psydruid surprise, people mingled [16:10] matey yes but the story went: they got wiped out [16:10] matey conquored-- killed off [16:10] kingoffrance yes, philosophically that seems to always be a lie [16:10] matey not "raised families together"-- thats what happened, its not the story though [16:10] kingoffrance thats the ouroborus dragon lol [16:10] kingoffrance he does that lol [16:11] matey the thing is, unix philosophy can be brought back to fight for freedom 3 [16:11] matey it doesnt have to be pure, it simply doesnt have to sit in the shadow of corporate bullshit [16:11] matey corporations LOVED unix [16:11] matey of course they turned it into corporate bullshit [16:12] matey and the irony being that-- unix was bell labs and very corporate (but) [16:12] matey it was and it wasnt [16:12] matey it was a small team, first of all [16:12] matey second, it was a small team working with a system designed to be easy to port (because at&t couldnt do computers as a business) [16:13] matey and when it got too big, other small teams formed (like at berkeley) [16:13] matey and the bsd team was smaller than the bell labs team [16:13] kingoffrance i never saved the "interview" but some claim they were told they can only design on a chalkboard/whiteboard, no implementing, because multics didnt go well. and they took their computers away from them. and they had to borrow something from psychology dept. IIRC? porting a game too. later, "word processing" was spun as this was all "planned". [16:14] *psydruid read all about Max Mller's "theories" years ago [16:15] matey in the 80s, ritchie and thompson actually adopted a bsd codebase for research unix [16:15] matey so bsd was both downstream and upstream [16:15] matey not to mention that one of them went on sabbatical to ASSIST bsd [16:15] kingoffrance a fiction book claims alexander the great landed somewhere, men where weary and just wanted to go home to their families but he wanted more land, so he burned their own ships (secretly) " oh no, they destroyed our ships! no going back" lol you want an OS? take away their computers and tell them no coding allowed lol reverse psychology lol [16:15] kingoffrance that's like warcraft "bloodlust" spell lol [16:16] kingoffrance *were [16:16] matey burn your bridges, and build them back with wealth <- metallica, "holier than thou" [16:16] psydruid that was the battle against King Porus [16:16] psydruid a minor king in India [16:17] psydruid or maybe another one, but this one was at the end of his reign [16:17] matey multics went better than the story is told, but a lot of people left the project, including at&t [16:18] matey i dont know which department they got the pdp 7 from, but it wasnt being used [16:18] matey to get a better pdp, they sold the idea of text formatting software to the legal department [16:18] psydruid I suspect Multics would work just fine with today's hardware resources [16:19] matey the last multics instllation went offline in 2000-something [16:19] matey it was used in military industrial applications [16:19] matey like air traffic control that sort of thing [16:20] matey the reason they went to the legal department is the legal department is like congress [16:20] matey they can pretty much write their own budget [16:20] matey so if they wanted software developed, all they had to do was ask for the funds [16:22] matey today theres an it department so going to legal wouldnt work [16:22] kingoffrance there's an emulator... [16:22] matey you can login to a unix system v machine and use it from the term [16:23] matey its at one of the computing museums (not the one in ukraine) [16:23] matey i think its a british one [16:25] matey i think the machine itself is an at&t mini computer [16:25] matey possibly 32bit [16:27] psydruid my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant [16:28] matey this is actually something paul allen funded [16:28] matey and its in seattle https://www.livingcomputers.org/Computer-Collection/Online-Systems.aspx [16:28] TR Bot LCM+L - Online Systems [16:28] psydruid and not so much Multics itself [16:28] matey my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant <- do you assume thyere better than the ones in unix? [16:28] psydruid "Multics on RISC-V" [16:29] matey psydruid: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UYb6WqWBTE0 "Mark Allen - Before Unix: An Early History of Timesharing Systems" [16:29] TR Bot Mark Allen - Before Unix: An Early History of Timesharing Systems - Invidious [16:29] psydruid > my thinking is more along the lines that the good concepts in Multics could be used if they are still relevant <- do you assume thyere better than the ones in unix? [16:29] psydruid I want to read a book I have downloaded about Multics to find out more about it and to see if they might be better than those in Unix [16:30] matey the guy in this video was involved with multics https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Q07PhW5sCEk [16:30] TR Bot 1963 Timesharing: A Solution to Computer Bottlenecks - Invidious [16:32] matey my bet is you will find that unix simplified ideas that multics explored, and ritchie and thompson streamlined some things [16:32] matey but of course if you learn something interesting from the book, i hope youll mention it [16:33] psydruid there is only one way of finding out [16:33] matey multics was a beast. from what ive learned about it, im not sure its more useful than unix [16:33] matey but yes, i thought it was worth exploring, no reason you shouldnt explore it too [16:33] matey sometimes going back farther gives just ONE really good idea that the "newer stuff" didnt need to abandon [16:34] psydruid maybe it was too complex for its time [16:34] matey i still think its cool (despite vax being a mess) that you could move running processes [16:34] matey from one machine to another [16:35] matey im sceptical that the complexity of multics was necessary at all [16:35] psydruid I'm not sure OpenVMS can do that [16:36] psydruid imagine moving processes from a machine using one architecture to a machine using another architecture [16:36] kingoffrance ^ [16:36] kingoffrance that seems to have been abandoned, in favor of just migrating a whole vm [16:37] kingoffrance for better or worse, modern stuff seems to have little interest in that level of granularity [16:38] kingoffrance the "whole vm" is arguably simpler in some ways, or arguably it just avoids issues [16:39] matey that seems to have been abandoned, in favor of just migrating a whole vm <- this is what im finding / summising too [16:40] matey i dont know what commands vms used for process management, or what terms were used for moving processes [16:40] matey so its very hard to determine if those are available in openvms [16:40] matey if you move a whole vm, and you shut down the machine it was running on, no problem [16:40] psydruid I couldn't even get a hobbyist licence for it, so that's that [16:41] matey if you move all the necessary processes but one, and shut down the machine that was hosting them... [16:41] psydruid as if they want knowledge about it to remain obscure [16:41] matey kingoffrance raises the point that theyve managed to do this in a more modern and perhaps practical way with a vm [16:42] matey or as if it simply isnt as useful as it once was [16:42] matey tbh i think if you can write an os, you could make it so the processes could be tranferred over the network [16:42] matey remember that move really means copy and delete [16:42] matey so to move a process, youd actually copy it to another host [16:42] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:42] matey then terminate it [16:43] psydruid that's probably the case, but it would be nice if there was at least some literature comparing the approaches [16:43] matey and how do you copy a process? you copy the memory it uses, then you copy the pointers to it [16:43] matey it would be nice <- sure, but the documentation probably gives you the information you need [16:43] matey if you can find it [16:44] psydruid I'll have a look at HPE's site [16:44] psydruid or wherever I can find some book about the OS [16:45] matey psydruid https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_decvaxvmstInternalsandDataStructures5.21991_146952745 [16:45] TR Bot dec :: vax :: vms :: training :: EY-C171E-DP VMS Internals and Data Structures 5.2 1991 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive [16:47] kingoffrance i imagine code itself (or some bytecode, whatever) is the easy part. the trickiness is resource (file handles, paths, single system image of RAM, etc.) [16:47] kingoffrance *resources [16:47] psydruid matey, that looks great, I wonder if there is something like that for Alpha too [16:48] matey dec alpha? [16:48] *psydruid has Debian for Alpha installed in QEMU [16:48] psydruid yes [16:48] matey https://download.majix.org/dec/alpha_arch_ref.pdf [16:49] psydruid I meant VMS on Alpha, but that definitely helps too [16:49] matey fair enough [16:50] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [16:50] psydruid it's because of that emulated machine that I know that some of the code in Debian has issues with alignment [16:51] matey AlphaVM does not actually emulate OpenVMS. AlphaVM emulates the DEC Alpha system hardware. As the result OpenVMS runs on the virtual hardware unmodified. Since the emulated hardware is Alpha, it is OpenVMS/AXP that runs on AlphaVM. In fact, for the user it may look like OpenVMS runs on the Intel x86-64 based hardware. [16:52] matey www0.mi.infn.it/~calcolo/OpenVMS/ssb71/6459/6459p012.htm [16:52] matey cause severe performance degradation on Alpha systems, DEC C for OpenVMS Alpha systems aligns data on natural boundaries by default. To override this feature and retain VAX (packed) alignment, specify the # pragma nomember_alignment preprocessor directive in your source file or use the /NOMEMBER_ALIGNMENT command line qualifier. [16:53] matey psydruid: http://www0.mi.infn.it/~calcolo/OpenVMS/ssb71/6459/6459ptoc.htm [16:53] TR Bot Migrating an Application from OpenVMS VAX to OpenVMS Alpha [16:53] kingoffrance yes, thats another reason "speak rust natively" is a non-sequitor. [16:53] kingoffrance turns out, different hardware has different abi requirements to avoid "severe performance degradation" [16:53] psydruid matey, all useful links, thanks [16:53] matey cheers [16:54] kingoffrance and the places that doesnt matter, will see it as "bloat" if they have all this "unneeded" "padding" [16:54] matey /me is still working on that honourary masters of library science [16:56] matey kingoffrance: maybe its a scam to make rust seem more important (and c less relevant) [16:56] matey or less "scam" more "just bullshit" [16:57] psydruid I was thinking about that earlier [16:57] matey the best bullshit needs a kernel of truth of course-- then it has to be twisted [16:57] kingoffrance ^ [16:57] matey or to put it gently: marketing [16:57] kingoffrance why is everyone afraid of two-sided draco. just say forked tongue dragon lol [16:57] kingoffrance one side is good, one is bad lol [16:58] matey in the tree of life neither side is bad [16:58] matey its the one side without the other that doom is derived from [16:58] matey the details without the big picture-- the details themselves arent the problem [16:58] psydruid if C is fundamentally broken and complex, if C++ is fundamentally broken and complex and if Rust is fundamentally broken and complex, what other programming language could or should we use? [16:58] matey judgment without mercy-- judging itself isnt the problem [16:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 22.76 k/sec., IPFS upstream 38.26 average k/sec., average swarm size 260.25 [16:59] matey no you see rust is exceptional! [16:59] matey like america [16:59] matey :D [16:59] psydruid :D [16:59] kingoffrance full of exceptions ? :D [16:59] kingoffrance like english [16:59] kingoffrance *engrish ● Mar 27 [17:00] matey engrust.com [17:00] matey github.com/engrust/engrust [17:02] matey emotions without principles-- emotions themselves arent the problem [17:02] matey (weird pairing maybe but i dont make the rules) [17:04] matey why is everyone afraid of two-sided draco <- what do you mean by "fear", "pachad" or "ruach" (being afraid or in awe) [17:04] matey both meanings of "fear" can cause trembling [17:04] matey both translate to "fear" in english [17:04] kingoffrance no i mean everyone talking about jesus earlier, but this is not the place [17:06] matey /me wonders if finding the "true abi" for language will manage to exclude (or disadvantage) some physical architecture that someone wants excluded or disadvantaged [17:06] matey not just any true abi, the ONE true abi :P [17:06] *kingoffrance stares at java, objective-c, OO in general........... [17:07] kingoffrance everyone wants that grail [17:07] matey subjective-c? [17:07] kingoffrance i prefer volatile, story of mel [17:07] matey the real hacker? [17:08] matey codes to sync on drum storage rotations, hold my beer? [17:08] matey optimises for drum rotations ^ [17:08] kingoffrance it would make migrating across machines easier, each instruction can be overridden. just kills all performance [17:08] kingoffrance someone in another channel said opcodes (for x86?) each are effectively a branch...so mel won out... [17:08] matey ctrl-alt-del on everything? [17:08] MinceR > couldnt afford technicolor because there was a war on [17:08] MinceR lol [17:09] matey ntsc = never twice the same colour... pal = people are lavender [17:10] kingoffrance let me revise that [17:10] kingoffrance for poetic reasons, not commenting on reality [17:10] *kingoffrance stares at java, objective-c, OO in general corpses hanging from tree [17:14] MinceR just learn oop [17:14] matey oop i did it again [17:14] matey oop is actually useful for some things. the main problem is that some things != all things [17:14] *psydroid9 tends to think that there is a universal abi of language that subsequently gets mapped to natural languages in an imperfect way [17:15] MinceR there are enough languages that support oop but don't force it on you [17:15] matey YES [17:15] matey and python did this reasonably well (enough that i didnt hate it, but approved) [17:15] matey this was after years of watching people who LOVED oop use it to screw up languages that already worked well (and were fun) [17:15] matey and python came along said "look, im not a dick" [17:16] matey then google bought python and python was like "im a dick, im a dick" [17:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [17:16] matey then python sold itself to microsoft [17:16] matey twice [17:17] MinceR c++ does it well, common lisp does it well [17:18] kingoffrance im just saying it didnt play out like the marketing. 5 package managers, instead of one class that multiple things can call. it is not either-or of course, abstractions can be built after-the-fact on top [17:18] kingoffrance chaos dragon, err, finds a way [17:20] MinceR void dragon? [17:22] kingoffrance yes :) [17:26] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031912 [17:26] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/v3luhh6a0kn81.jpg created on 2022-03-19 05:22:36.717378 [17:27] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 27 [18:00] matey GNU Pascal (GPC) is the official Pascal compiler of the GNU project. It is compatible to Standard Pascal as defined in ISO 7185, and it implements "most" of the ISO 10206 Extended Pascal standard. Unlike Free Pascal, GPC is not self-hosted, i.e. it is not able to translate and build itself. [18:01] matey im not sure you would want every gnu compile to be self hosted (though for c and c++ at least, it would be nice if c could compile them) [18:01] matey every compiler that self hosts needs to be bootstrapped (as far as i know) [18:02] matey unless perhaps the compiler is written in a subset of itself which is available a stub for another language for boostrapping [18:03] matey like theres a mini pascal compiler implemented in c that can be used to compile the latest (Self hostiing) pascal compiler [18:04] matey youd maintain the pascal compiler then each time you came out with a new one youd make sure the stub could still bootstrap it [18:17] *zleap has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [18:17] *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights [18:20] *zombie (~59f9318f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [18:23] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [18:23] *inky_ (~inky@5.77.193.28) has joined #techrights [18:26] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowitz_log@pumv3cb2rfinu.irc) has joined #techrights [18:26] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@joseon-773mll.am6e.nqgd.t29qgt.IP) has joined #techrights [18:26] *schestowitz_log_ has quit (Changing host) [18:26] *schestowitz_log_ (~schestowi@freenode/user/schestowitz) has joined #techrights [18:26] *Guest91 (~schestowi@2a00:23c4:c383:c901:dbf5:2ba6:96f6:f2e2) has joined #techrights [18:41] bnchs matey: you would NOT want a self hosting compiler [18:45] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [18:47] matey bnchs other than the caveat i already mentioned, why not? [18:47] bnchs well self hosting does seem good [18:47] bnchs but [18:48] bnchs what if the new version of compiler [18:48] bnchs introduces a new feature that it will use in the newer version [18:49] matey okay so this begs the question [18:49] matey if the compiler isnt self hosting, what should it be implemented in [18:50] bnchs c [18:50] matey so basically just what i imagined [18:50] matey youre better off implementing a compiler in c (or a language implemented in c) [18:50] matey because then you only have to bootstrap the compiler [18:50] matey rather then you only have to bootstrap the c compiler [18:50] schestowitz-TR iirc, matlab is written inc [18:51] schestowitz-TR *in c [18:51] matey you dont have to bootstrap each language that is implemented with a [18:51] matey most languages are implemented in c i think [18:51] matey certainly not all [18:51] schestowitz-TR but c still needs a compiler, and those need tokenisers [18:51] schestowitz-TR like lex and yacc [18:51] schestowitz-TR or flex [18:51] bnchs yes [18:51] schestowitz-TR so parsers are another layer [18:52] schestowitz-TR and I'm not sure if they're based on c themselves or some machine code [18:52] matey they wouldnt be based on machine code [18:52] bnchs matey: rust compiler is written in rust [18:52] schestowitz-TR this is where I deplore some absolutists [18:52] schestowitz-TR they go down to silicon [18:52] bnchs and this has caused some problems [18:52] schestowitz-TR like physically silicon [18:52] schestowitz-TR not semi-conductors [18:52] schestowitz-TR what if... [18:52] bnchs which made someone [18:52] bnchs make a C++ bootstrap compiler for rust [18:53] schestowitz-TR yes, well... you cannot check your wafer with a microscope, not usefully anyway [18:53] schestowitz-TR btw, I have a dump question [18:53] schestowitz-TR how was rust developed? [18:53] matey you cannot check your wafer with a microscope, not usefully anyway <- nor would you [18:53] schestowitz-TR *dumb question, sort of [18:53] schestowitz-TR remember gcc was "made on unix" [18:54] matey you would check the pattern that goes to the lithograph before it goes to the silicon [18:54] schestowitz-TR and gnu emacs was developed on some proprietary editor [18:54] bnchs schestowitz-TR, yeah uhhh [18:54] matey and theres a difference between autonomy and "absolutism" [18:54] matey for example, if you want a chip intel no longer makes [18:54] matey whether you can check it or not isnt the point, intel doesnt make it-- you want more, someone else has to make them [18:55] matey thats autonomy, its got nothing to do with absolutism [18:55] matey like physically silicon not semi-conductors <- ... [18:56] bnchs thats a good question [18:56] bnchs i think it was written in C++ [18:56] bnchs and then they rewrote it all in rust [18:56] bnchs to make it self-hosting [18:57] *zombie (~59f9318f@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has left #techrights [18:58] matey implementing an unstable language that constantly wants things rewritten in itself was a pretty silly thing to do [18:58] matey rust is a compiler for calvinball [18:58] bnchs and thats the problem [18:58] bnchs you wanna compile rust? [18:58] bnchs compile from the very first version [18:58] bnchs to the very last version [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 26.63 k/sec., IPFS upstream 15.86 average k/sec., average swarm size 276.61 [18:59] matey the method i outlined for a self hosting compiler was saner [18:59] kingoffrance i thought we agreed all there is is calvinball? "language has always mutated" [18:59] matey but there are very few advantages to a self-hosting compiler [18:59] bnchs writing the compiler in C? [18:59] bnchs making it easier to compile that way? [18:59] bnchs nah thats boring ● Mar 27 [19:00] matey boring = reliable [19:01] bnchs yeah [19:01] bnchs but do you really want rust fanatics breathing down your neck [19:01] bnchs "memory unsafe language!!!!" [19:02] matey who wants a memory safe langauge implemented in an implementation designed to forget itself? [19:02] kingoffrance thats pretty much it [19:02] kingoffrance when i do this its perfectionm, when you do same exact thing its a crime [19:02] matey i thought we agreed all there is is calvinball? "language has always mutated" <- we also ceded that there are different levels of stability and instability [19:03] matey order is relative stability and chaos is unacceptable levels of instability [19:03] kingoffrance nah, theres only instability covered up with veneer of "order". humans are infinitely fallible [19:03] kingoffrance i am with "commies" on this [19:03] matey humans are infinitely fallible <- okay, prove it :) [19:04] kingoffrance it cant be proven, because it cannot be comprehended [19:04] kingoffrance humans lack omniscience [19:04] kingoffrance i am with q from star trek on this too [19:04] kingoffrance :) [19:04] matey it cant be proven because you cant prove the proof isnt an example of fallibility [19:05] matey q ex machina [19:06] matey if youre omnipotent you cant be impotent, so one thing q never worries about is qed [19:06] kingoffrance no, the fact a human cannot prove it supports it [19:07] matey no, the fact a human cannot prove it supports it <- so its a circular argument [19:07] kingoffrance thats how people roll [19:07] kingoffrance like a dragon lol [19:07] matey "love is... like a circle" i now pronounce you chuck and larry [19:08] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: siren) [19:08] kingoffrance well lets get back on topic.. i think you are looking for "logic" "truth" where there is none. it is just "who" is doing something that determines "good" or "bad" [19:08] kingoffrance "when" maybe [19:08] matey actually mi is who [19:09] matey but that would agree, because mi is unreachable [19:09] kingoffrance mi's on first? [19:09] matey sometimes his wife comes out and gives him money [19:10] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [19:11] matey truth is also mi [19:12] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [19:12] matey actually sorry, truth is... [19:12] matey truth is also mi <- no [19:13] TR News Inherent limitation in both synergy and barrier (latest): they assume you have no more than 2 computers to the left, two to the right, and one above, one below. That limits what I try to accomplish with their GUI. [19:13] matey though i knew someone who thought so, i think [19:13] TR News 7 Best Free and Open Source Animation Tools Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163048 [19:13] TR Bot 7 Best Free and Open Source Animation Tools | Tux Machines [19:13] TR News Google #Android Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163049 [19:13] TR Bot Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [19:15] bnchs so uhh news on vidya gaymes [19:16] TR News Today's video will be 2.5 hours long, with focus on the EPO. Spent almost all day on maintenance tasks, not writing. [19:16] bnchs facepunch's sequel to gmod (s&box) is gonna be using tim swine-e's engine, currently windows-only, and uses C# for the addons [19:18] kingoffrance if rust is like this i think that guarantees they will 180 at some point [19:18] *matey has quit (Quit) [19:19] bnchs kingoffrance, you mean writing their compiler in rust? [19:19] bnchs well that is gonna be true [19:20] bnchs a big change in the syntax is enough to make the compiler uncompilable [19:20] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:20] kingoffrance that is part of it, i mean not having a standard outside of "the implementation itself" [19:20] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [19:20] kingoffrance "No, there is no sound formal specification of Rust at present. It will come when the language stabilises further" <-- when it stabilises further, they will 180 [19:21] bnchs yeah [19:22] kingoffrance broken record, this makes it even more ridiculous "rust speaking its native tongue at abi level" [19:22] bnchs they're doing a big mistake self-hosting their compiler this early [19:22] bnchs it will make the compiler rely on deprecated features [19:22] kingoffrance they hate c because they are similar on that point [19:22] bnchs thus causing more headaches in the development [19:22] kingoffrance love is blind :D [19:22] kingoffrance sorry lol [19:22] bnchs they'll either make the compiler tolerate deprecated crap to compile itself [19:23] bnchs or implement hacks [19:23] bnchs that gets enabled when it detects that it's compiling a rust compiler [19:24] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@yttn6jz5qmusn.irc) has joined #techrights [19:25] DaemonFC Well, it's nice I can agree with dad about something. I mentioned the Orsk. [19:26] bnchs m [19:26] DaemonFC He said, "100% correct. It was an Alligator-class ship that could beach itself and vomit out 300 Russian bastards along with some tanks for them to burn to death in. The only tragedy was that I don't think it was full when the Ukrainians blew it up.". [19:26] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [19:29] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, NPR had a thing on the Peter Principle the other day. [19:30] DaemonFC The host explained that instead of promoting people into management because they performed well somewhere else, you could "give them a better sounding job title" and "maybe even avoid a raise". [19:30] DaemonFC She mentioned "Distinguished Engineer". [19:31] DaemonFC Which is the title that K.Y. Srinivasan has at Microsoft. He works on Hyper-V, and submits patches regarding that for the Linux kernel. [19:31] *activelow (~activelow@h29stqv8ereqe.irc) has joined #techrights [19:31] DaemonFC I guess that means they screwed him out of a promotion and possibly a raise for a "more elite-sounding job title". [19:33] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:33] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [19:33] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Distinguished Engineer is a genuine title at Microsoft, and definitely involves a raise [19:34] bnchs distinguished engineer? [19:34] mjg59_ It's level 70 on the IC track [19:34] bnchs should linus deserve that? [19:34] mjg59_ Oh, Linus would be a Fellow [19:35] mjg59_ (Which is the step above Distinguished Engineer at most big tech companies) [19:37] bnchs ok [19:38] mjg59_ Once you're a fellow they stop giving you new titles - at Google there are multiple promotion levels within Fellow [19:39] bnchs can you sue them? [19:40] mjg59_ It doesn't make you immune to being sued [19:43] *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) [19:48] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:51] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Mar 27 [20:02] *activelow (~activelow@u5hhxpb5ez862.irc) has joined #techrights [20:06] schestowitz-TR Srinivasan used to be at Novell, IIRC [20:06] schestowitz-TR gravitating where the money is, not freedom [20:07] schestowitz-TR and then working on Microsoft crap, shimming in proprietary junkware with NSA hooks and interests [20:08] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:08] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [20:09] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:10] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [20:14] TR News How curious that Debian's official site has just RE-posted the statement on a volunteer that Debian management does not like. Don't they understand this only reaffirms the belief that they are afraid of him? ICBM already burned itself. [20:14] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:15] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [20:16] mjg59_ "Volunteer" as opposed to "serial harasser" [20:17] TR News Drawing 1.0 Simple Image Editor for Linux Released Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163050 [20:17] TR Bot Drawing 1.0 Simple Image Editor for Linux Released | Tux Machines [20:17] mjg59_ Who has repeatedly used other people's identitities without their permission [20:19] TR News [GIT PULL] Ceph updates for 5.18-rc1 https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220324172554.12797-1-idryomov@gmail.com/ [20:19] TR Bot [GIT PULL] Ceph updates for 5.18-rc1 - Ilya Dryomov [20:19] TR News [GIT PULL] USB/Thunderbolt driver changes for 5.18-rc1 - Greg KH https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/Yj7vGtn8fILavjyL@kroah.com/ Source: kroah [20:19] TR Bot [GIT PULL] USB/Thunderbolt driver changes for 5.18-rc1 - Greg KH [20:19] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: What do you mean by "re-posted"? [20:20] TR News Private Social Network with Raspberry Pi and OpenSource Social Network Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163051 [20:20] TR Bot Private Social Network with Raspberry Pi and OpenSource Social Network | Tux Machines [20:21] TR News I wonder how blind people get past the monstrosity that is gitlab. Even terrible Microsoft GitHub has some JS-free fallbacks for the BASIC functionality. [20:22] mjg59_ ? [20:22] mjg59_ There's no inherent conflict between javascript and accessibility [20:23] mjg59_ Accessibility tooling has access to the rendered state [20:23] TR News ..that's not even to mention ANOTHER blind people-hostile layer: CLOWNflare. [20:24] activelow rule of thumb: any website which can be rendered with a text-only browser (lynx, w3m, links) may more easily be coped with by screen-readers [20:24] mjg59_ activelow: Why? [20:25] activelow semi-structured text-content extraction [20:25] mjg59_ That's orthogonal to it being renderable by a text-only browser [20:25] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@dhtuut2efm55y.irc) has joined #techrights [20:26] mjg59_ It's important that contextual information be present so that a screen reader can interpret things appropriately [20:26] mjg59_ Whether that's plain HTML or something derived by javascript doesn't really matter [20:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@b77dwj33yeykn.irc) has joined #techrights [20:28] activelow gemini is probably the easiest to cope with in this regard [20:28] DaemonFC mjg59_, I guess you'd know about Microsoft since they're the only ones who like your Shitter posts for the most part. [20:28] DaemonFC Anyway, I'm sure you're aware that most of their employees are permatemps though. [20:29] DaemonFC Permatemps, outsourced. They fired the entire US-based IE team after IE 6 went out. [20:29] TR News Since my earlier days with Fedora I've always disliked how nepumok or baloo or akonadi were slaughtering or clobbering away at my systems as soon I put some file on them. Sometimes it takes a while to identify those culprits too (and store-related process are hard to permanently suspend). It makes GNU/Linux look bad. [20:29] DaemonFC It was maintained by China after that. [20:29] DaemonFC So this is all nothing new. [20:30] mjg59_ DaemonFC: Is your claim that someone with a "Distinguished Engineer" title at Microsoft is actually a temp? [20:30] DaemonFC I suppose if you maintain the worst browser in the world and it's full of lulz and security hazards, you just want cheap labor anyway. [20:30] DaemonFC DaemonFC: Is your claim that someone with a "Distinguished Engineer" title at Microsoft is actually a temp? [20:30] DaemonFC No. [20:30] mjg59_ Ok [20:30] mjg59_ So what's the relevance [20:30] DaemonFC I never said that. I said most people who work there are either permatemps or outsourced. [20:31] DaemonFC Microsoft doesn't care about code quality. [20:31] mjg59_ Right. I'm asking why that's relevant at all to the conversation [20:31] DaemonFC The last version of Windows that even kind of worked okay was Windows 2000. [20:31] DaemonFC When they "contributed" stuff that only works with their proprietary shit anyway to the Linux kernel, it was all seriously broken too. [20:32] DaemonFC They funneled money through to Novell (at the time) to patch it all up, and I've honestly never seen a worse kernel module in my life than hv, even in -staging. [20:32] DaemonFC And Microsoft had been shipping that to their customers in the shape it was in, and only released it eventually because of GPL violations. [20:33] DaemonFC From what they've released as "open source" and from what's leaked out over the years, I mean, it's just hideous. [20:33] DaemonFC And to have "Fellow" and "Distinguished" or even "Engineer" as a job title there is funny. [20:34] schestowitz-TR don't chu know fancy job titles are one day to compensate for law salary? [20:34] schestowitz-TR "sure, we'll pay you $50k a year, but WATCH THIS TITLE" [20:34] DaemonFC IE for UNIX was even worse than anything else they've ever done before. They don't know how to port software now, and it was even worse then. [20:34] schestowitz-TR "the ladies will be soooo impressed" [20:34] DaemonFC If you had a different patch configuration on Solaris, IE would just crash and often take the kernel down with it. [20:34] DaemonFC So I mean, userspace software doing THAT everyone. [20:35] DaemonFC It actually comes in the notes for IE for Solaris which patches you need and it says if you have more patches, things can go wrong. [20:35] DaemonFC So some guy reviewing old software on YouTube had to figure out how to construct the exact environment IE needed to run, and along the way he had it kernel panic Solaris when he loaded Internet Explorer. [20:36] DaemonFC There's nothing like that going on today in GNU/Linux and I'm not even sure anyone but Microsoft managed it back then. [20:38] TR News Welcome to KDE in 2022. Working desktops, two HD displays, widgets and all at just 500MB of RAM. A boss recently insinuated that any machine with less than 8GB of RAM is unfit for work. I had a good laugh at that... [20:38] DaemonFC There's a very good reason to keep Microsoft repos out of your GNU/Linux distribution. Like General O'Neill said in an episode of Stargate SG-1, "Well, we could just toss a nuke down the hatch.". Replicators episode, I think. Anyway, Microsoft has done some truly retarded shit with their "Linux" packaging that has ruined the entire OS. [20:38] DaemonFC So giving them a backdoor into your system to install whatever such packages they want is maybe perhaps not the greatest idea. [20:39] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [20:40] DaemonFC So people should (1) avoid distros that come with these repos, (2) if they really must use them, delete Microsoft's repos and signing keys and PURGE Microsoft programs that came on the system, and (3) don't ever install anything from Microsoft yourself. [20:40] *inky has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [20:41] DaemonFC It's nuts that people who are at least incompetent and usually malicious are allowed to go anywhere near a product that ships with a "Linux" distribution. [20:41] DaemonFC Money talks. [20:41] *inky (~inky@46.70.99.147) has joined #techrights [20:41] DaemonFC I don't even think they usually pay much for deals like these. [20:42] mjg59_ schestowitz-TR: Total compensation for a distinguished engineer at Microsoft can easily be >$1,000,000 [20:42] DaemonFC Isn't the "Raspberry Pi Foundation" making money from the hardware sales? Do they really need a $20,000 one-off payment from Microsoft to backdoor the official OS for the thing? [20:42] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR: Total compensation for a distinguished engineer at Microsoft can easily be >$1,000,000 [20:42] schestowitz-TR too much [20:43] schestowitz-TR not much to do with that money [20:43] schestowitz-TR you die working for criminals [20:43] DaemonFC Finally a salary for the Very Progressive Bay Area, where they just doubled the rent on an AIDS victim to drive him out of his home for the last 50 years. [20:43] schestowitz-TR and you lack the time to enjoy life [20:43] DaemonFC Matt Gulag says people there "get it". [20:43] schestowitz-TR that compensation level also assumes US [20:43] schestowitz-TR ICBM outsources the jobs [20:43] schestowitz-TR and so the median pay at IBM is 7k a year, IIRC [20:44] schestowitz-TR BEFORE tax [20:44] schestowitz-TR after tax it can be like 45k [20:44] schestowitz-TR median, inc. senior workers and managers [20:44] DaemonFC $3,000 a month wasn't "enough". And if his 30 year old "stock investor" landlord doesn't manage to harass and litigate him out or get her $6,000 a month rent approved and chase him out that way despite the rent control law.... [20:44] schestowitz-TR of course they also kick out older workers [20:44] DaemonFC Eviction by fire, and then the city will pretend to look into it and quietly let the issue die. [20:44] schestowitz-TR so they have a decade or two to cash in [20:44] schestowitz-TR then they get stigmatised "sinobabies" and discarded [20:44] schestowitz-TR for not "upskilling;" [20:45] schestowitz-TR (for being "too expensive") [20:45] schestowitz-TR then they kill themselves, the spouse sues ICBM [20:46] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@v6xmmrhxmbafc.irc) has joined #techrights [20:46] DaemonFC I'm thoroughly convinced that the only way to improve San Francisco is a Tomahawk landing on top of the city council building. They're like Democrats on Steroids in there. They're like the usual Democrats. Racist and bigoted fucks disguising themselves in sheep's clothing. In there coming up with bad ideas, calling them "the law". [20:47] DaemonFC The "rent control law" is unenforced and even when it is enforced, the landlords will literally torch the place themselves in the middle of the night and manage not to be truly investigated. [20:47] bnchs schestowitz-TR, does microsoft hire shills to make their software look better [20:47] bnchs i noticed this alot [20:47] DaemonFC Then they'll sit on the burned-out building and cash "loss of rent" insurance checks until they're certain you're not coming back. [20:47] bnchs people always talk about VS and their debugger and shit [20:47] DaemonFC THEN they fix it and double the rent. [20:47] bnchs but never what makes it "good" [20:48] DaemonFC So, arson, insurance fraud, and violating rent control. [20:48] DaemonFC And they get away with it because they're rich, and nobody seems to care. [20:48] DaemonFC San Francisco.....where people "get it". [20:48] bnchs DaemonFC: so you mean scamming the tenants [20:49] DaemonFC In most places, insurance fraud would be investigated for sure, if nothing else, because insurance companies are powerful. [20:49] DaemonFC DaemonFC: so you mean scamming the tenants [20:49] *bnchs__ (~bnchs@fybp8g38thxgk.irc) has joined #techrights [20:49] DaemonFC Yes, the landlords in San Francisco will stoop to anything, no matter how illegal, to raise rents. [20:49] *forkbombe has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:49] bnchs__ wow [20:50] DaemonFC And the Dumbocrat Party of Illinois wants "rent control boards" that you have to pay to keep your rent "affordable", which means whatever they want it to of course. [20:50] DaemonFC And then you just have more government playing The Bribe is Right. [20:50] bnchs__ so uhhh [20:50] bnchs__ what prevents them from clogging the drain [20:50] bnchs__ and adding that to their rent [20:51] DaemonFC I had a landlord that was harassing me once. [20:51] DaemonFC I mean REALLY harassing me. [20:51] bnchs__ why did he harass you [20:51] *bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:51] DaemonFC So I just started leaving everything electric on and the water running. [20:51] DaemonFC why did he harass you [20:51] mjg59_ California has stronger tenants rights than most states do, but the refusal to allow meaningful quantities of new construction means that the landlords are in a strong position to fuck people over [20:51] DaemonFC Because SHE was insane. [20:51] *alextee (~alextee@dexiw29c8htcg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:52] bnchs__ oh a she [20:52] mjg59_ Anyway, not tech related [20:52] DaemonFC And then on my way out, I took pictures of all the shit she wasn't fixing and the city shut her down and told her no more leases anywhere until it was fixed to code. [20:52] bnchs__ DaemonFC, why in fact? [20:52] DaemonFC Fined her $5,500. [20:52] bnchs__ why was she insane? [20:52] DaemonFC Crazy/Mean [20:52] bnchs__ i mean why was she acting insane against you [20:52] DaemonFC Usual "greedy landlord fuck" stuff going on though. [20:53] DaemonFC Oh, she demanded in my apartment every day for like 5 months over a malfunctioning doorbell. [20:53] DaemonFC She paid some stupid idiot to fuck it up worse than before each time. [20:53] *alextee has quit (Quit: Leaving) [20:53] bnchs__ wow what a bitch [20:53] DaemonFC Then she stopped notifying us she'd be out, and then she let herself in one day and I woke up with her standing over me in my bedroom. [20:54] DaemonFC I told her that the door in back was broken and wouldn't shut. She didn't replace a $50 part. [20:54] bnchs__ wtf [20:54] bnchs__ now thats where i draw it [20:54] DaemonFC So 6 months later, the upstairs people left the door open when it was 26 degrees below zero out. [20:54] DaemonFC And the pipes exploded. [20:54] bnchs__ i wouldn't like to wake up with my landlord standing over me [20:54] DaemonFC So I called her, and she paid a plumber emergency rates to come out, then she didn't fix the door. [20:54] DaemonFC And it happened again. [20:54] DaemonFC And she accused me of sabotaging her building. [20:55] bnchs__ wow [20:56] DaemonFC Then when I moved out, she started calling me at 2-3 AM threatening that her husband was a lawyer and I told her "If you don't leave me alone, you're about to have a bigger problem than a month of unpaid rent after you forced us to find another apartment...". [20:56] DaemonFC And she kept pushing, so she did. [20:56] DaemonFC :) [20:56] DaemonFC Anyway, never did hear from her after the city went in and shut her down. [20:57] DaemonFC I'm guessing that she probably had to spend at least $12,000 in fines and repairs to get her license to rent apartments out back from the city, maybe more. I don't know what all was wrong with the place, but I took a lot of pictures of the obvious stuff. [20:58] DaemonFC Then the city went after her with the anti-slumlord law. [20:58] DaemonFC I reported her also for violating the Heat Ordinance. [20:58] DaemonFC It says between November and May your landlord must keep the unit at a minimum of 68 F during the day and 66 at night. [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 50.36 k/sec., IPFS upstream 50.83 average k/sec., average swarm size 312.75 ● Mar 27 [21:00] DaemonFC The problem for her is, after all of that, if you go after someone in court, they can point to the city's investigation and the court order saying the building is unlivable, and they created a "constructive eviction" and you owe them nothing. [21:00] DaemonFC :) [21:00] psydruid https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40834385.html [21:00] Alternative link Cloudflare: irishexaminer.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40834385.html [21:00] TR Bot Government to back bill banning sex for rent following 'Irish Examiner' probe [21:00] DaemonFC Simply put, constructive eviction means that the tenant was forced to break the lease and so none of the penalties apply and since it was the landlord's fault, the remaining rent is no longer due. [21:01] DaemonFC This can be due to.....unacceptable condition of the building, landord harassment, lots of things. [21:03] DaemonFC It's kind of the nuclear option, but it works. [21:04] DaemonFC I doubt many people are smart enough to tie up their landlord in court. They just get evicted and don't even show up to court and then wonder why they can't get another apartment. [21:05] DaemonFC If you owe back rent and are going to be evicted, there's a couple things you can do to keep that part from happening. You can beat the landlord and file bankruptcy, which zeroes out the balance due and lets you stay in the place and not pay him while it makes its way through the court system. [21:05] DaemonFC It also effectively gags any of your creditors from saying anything had happened that hadn't already been reported to credit bureaus before the filing date when the automatic stay goes into effect. [21:06] MinceR lol @ titles at MICROS~1 [21:06] MinceR is dave cutler a "distinguished engineer" too? :> [21:06] DaemonFC If you can't file, but you still don't want an eviction or forcible detainer case on your credit, you should get out, and give the landlord his keys and a letter stating that you are breaking the lease and you are no longer in possession of the apartment, by certified mail. [21:06] DaemonFC They can still get you for unpaid rent, but it's not an eviction. [21:08] DaemonFC MinceR, No, he's a DISTIN~1, and everyone else is a DISTIN~2, DISTIN~3, and so on. [21:08] MinceR lol [21:08] MinceR "are you absolutely, terminally clueless about engineer but want a big title and a big salary for churning out crap that destroys the IT industry? try getting a job at MICROS~1!" [21:08] MinceR s/eer/eering/ [21:09] DaemonFC MATTHE~1 over there knows all about Microsoft, obviously. [21:09] MinceR :> [21:09] MinceR well, he'd better [21:09] MinceR he served their agenda, after all [21:10] DaemonFC Hey now, they used a paycheck condom called Red Hat and another one called Canonical. [21:10] MinceR lol [21:10] DaemonFC Linux is a cancer! Also, stuff it full of this NSA shit, please and thank you! [21:10] MinceR :> [21:10] MinceR "also, we love that cancer" [21:11] DaemonFC MMMMMMMmmmmm Cancer! [21:11] MinceR :> [21:11] DaemonFC Windows is finally so bloated it's collapsed in on itself like a neutron star. [21:12] DaemonFC If you unpack the WinSxS folder and the other stuff they used LZ77 compression on to hide the scandal, it wouldn't even fit on a 256 GB SSD. [21:12] DaemonFC And that's just the OS. [21:18] DaemonFC I can't imagine that Windows "11" has gotten any better on that front. [21:18] MinceR :> [21:18] DaemonFC It embarrassingly showed recently that the Windows "10" shell is still there, and just suppressed so that you can't see it. [21:20] psydruid Windows "11" updates are a joke, just like the rest of the malware operation system [21:21] schestowitz-TR [20:47] schestowitz-TR, does microsoft hire shills to make their software look better [21:21] DaemonFC bnchs__, Anyway, when someone is pestering you with a court, you file a bunch of counter-motions very quickly that will all or mostly be dismissed. [21:21] DaemonFC Their lawyer is charging them $200 to pick up the phone and $500 to draft a response to the court for each motion you file. [21:21] schestowitz "If you cant make it good, at least make it look good." [21:21] schestowitz Guy who visited Jeffrey Epstein in prison [21:21] bnchs__ lol [21:21] schestowitz to try to make child trafficking for child sex look "good" [21:22] bnchs__ that's like making a sandwich with shit [21:22] schestowitz (Bill Gates, Microsoft<) [21:22] bnchs__ the shit tastes like shit [21:22] bnchs__ so just make it taste good by adding tons of saucezs [21:22] DaemonFC Well, my spouse's sister filed a motion to drop her support affidavit from our case. I didn't mention that I had a replacement ready to file. [21:22] DaemonFC I objected to it and made her lawyer bill her for more hours. [21:22] schestowitz maybe with enough "bill says" pieces in the media [21:22] schestowitz they can even make "prince" andrew look good [21:22] DaemonFC Then I dropped the objection and let it go through and filed my paperwork then. [21:22] bnchs__ BILL SEZ [21:22] schestowitz and sex with children [21:23] schestowitz "look good" [21:23] bnchs__ when someone wants to sexually harrass you [21:23] schestowitz and epstein doing a "sanwich" [21:23] schestowitz or a "bagel [21:23] bnchs__ that's no gewd [21:23] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/bagel-reports-as-images/ [21:23] TR Bot Trafficking Thousands of Underage Women/Girls for Sex is Not (and Was Never Ever) No Worse Than Stealing a Bagel | Techrights [21:23] *psydroid9 has quit (Quit: Quit) [21:23] bnchs__ no worse than stealing a bagel [21:23] DaemonFC When she was all good and done, she had paid $2,000 to her lawyer for what she was originally quoted at $800, and then I filed my set of documents. [21:23] *psydroid8 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights [21:23] bnchs__ lol thats fucking dumb [21:23] *psydroid8 has quit (Quit: Quit) [21:23] DaemonFC Always make people pay too high a price for continuing to harass you. [21:23] bnchs__ oh i stole a bagel [21:24] bnchs__ make me a sex offender [21:24] schestowitz you pedo! [21:24] bnchs__ "hi i'm legally required to tell you i'm a bagel thief" [21:24] bnchs__ hide your bagels [21:24] bnchs__ there are bagel predators [21:24] schestowitz Bagel stealer: stealing a bagel is no worse than smuggling thousands of young girls for sexual exploitaion [21:25] schestowitz btw, isn't bagel a code word for something? [21:25] schestowitz I heard of "pizza" [21:25] schestowitz or "map" [21:25] schestowitz the FBI has lists of these words [21:25] bnchs__ what does a bagel look lik [21:25] schestowitz don't ask [21:25] DaemonFC Everyone in Florida has to notify everyone else in Florida that everyone in Florida is a pedophile moving into the neighborhood. [21:26] schestowitz but I beg they came up with some meaning for it [21:26] DaemonFC (Not much of an exaggeration really.) [21:26] schestowitz "hi bill, leave the wife behind, I gome some bagels for you" [21:26] bnchs__ "hi bill" [21:26] bnchs__ i went to the local bakery [21:26] bnchs__ and got you some BAGELS [21:26] bnchs__ wanna a bite? [21:27] DaemonFC Illinois is a fucked up state full of braindead idiot Democrats....but it got one thing right. If you move into Illinois while you're on a sex offender registry, Illinois converts it to LIFETIME registration no matter how long you were required to register, and then even moving out of the state again won't get you off the list. [21:27] schestowitz "no, jeffy, cannot" [21:27] bnchs__ come on [21:27] schestowitz "I might have to spend 2 years pretending to be a COVID expert if Lolinda Gates catches me" [21:27] bnchs__ it's just one bagel [21:27] bnchs__ it won't hurt your reputation [21:27] DaemonFC It's meant to deter people who are on the list from ever moving here unless they had lifetime registration anyway. [21:27] bnchs__ you can always do a #billpartner [21:28] DaemonFC Like, if you got 10 years on the list in another state and you move here with 1 day remaining, you're on the list for life. [21:28] DaemonFC Slows them down. Makes us get less trash from some other state. [21:28] schestowitz bnchs__: how many #gatespartner in youtube are under 18\? [21:28] schestowitz ok, never mind [21:29] schestowitz at least they are not compelled by gatesfoundatiob to use the hastag #gatesplaymate [21:29] DaemonFC You know, it's easy to forget that a few generations ago, people were expected to start having kids at 14-15. [21:29] DaemonFC Like, my great grandmother got married at 14 and had her first child at 15. [21:29] DaemonFC Nobody thought anything of it then. [21:29] bnchs__ ""Picking a PARTNER is CRUCIAL!" - Bill Gates" [21:29] bnchs__ Picking a BAGEL is CRUCIAL! [21:30] DaemonFC The only reason states have to change their marriage laws now is you can't have laws meant for civilization when you let Muslims into your country. [21:30] bnchs__ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bhZa3J2cemM [21:30] TR Bot Bill Gates opens up about his divorce and Jeffrey Epstein - Invidious [21:30] schestowitz CNN coverup? [21:30] DaemonFC There was a difference between letting a 14 and a 16 year old who were supporting themselves with WORK get married to each other, and letting some 60 year old Muslim pedo "marry" his victim. [21:31] schestowitz CIA intern interviews him [21:31] MinceR (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-16.jpg [21:31] Alternative link Cloudflare: pleated-jeans.com | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/funny-picturers-3-24-22-16.jpg [21:31] DaemonFC MinceR, They're doing a cat and dog food giveaway over at the school across the street. [21:32] TR News "Another step forward for the mobile Lagrange: the first Android integrations have been done in the form of native text input, device status/navigation bar theming, and scroll behavior. According to my Alpha/Beta nomenclature, this ends the Alpha phase." gemini://skyjake.fi/gemlog/2022-03_android-beta1.gmi [21:32] DaemonFC Purina donated several thousand bags of each and people were lining up to get it. [21:32] *forkbombe (~forkbombe@u89vdyv4abg8n.irc) has joined #techrights [21:32] *bnchs (~bnchs@fybp8g38thxgk.irc) has joined #techrights [21:32] bnchs "and asks Gates about his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein -- one Gates called a "huge mistake."" [21:32] bnchs it was a big mistake taking that bagel jeff gave me [21:32] DaemonFC I don't really need any. There's a lot of people who are having a lot of trouble feeding themselves, much less pets. [21:32] bnchs i didn't know it was stolen [21:32] *bnchs__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [21:34] bnchs i prayed to god that day [21:34] bnchs why i didn't choose donut instead of bagel [21:38] schestowitz-TR you might want to look up meanings of these metaphors [21:38] schestowitz-TR there might be codes there [21:38] schestowitz-TR I'd not look that up in search (surveillance) engines [21:39] schestowitz-TR the bagel metaphor might be even worse than we realise [21:39] schestowitz-TR afaik, the terms keep hanging all the time [21:39] bnchs i'm aware it could mean something [21:39] bnchs like cheese pizza [21:39] schestowitz-TR because the pedos don't want to get caught, so they keep shuffling words [21:39] bnchs bagel is the shape of a hole [21:39] bnchs i'll leave it to your imagination [21:39] schestowitz-TR Microsoft Peter used quite a few code words [21:39] schestowitz-TR he was arrested for raping kids [21:41] bnchs bagels have holes [21:41] bnchs like donuts [21:41] bnchs they're seasoned [21:43] TR News "For a long time Matrix has used Jitsi for it's call infrastructure but this poses an issue, it adds a single point of failure for group calls which for something like Matrix doesn't make sense so now Matrix finally supports calls over the Matrix network." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=bLbZ13czCtc [21:43] TR Bot Matrix Finally Has Proper Group Calls... Sort Of - Invidious [21:44] TR News GNOME is VERY customizable - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sPrLLmSKJEg Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia [21:44] TR Bot GNOME is VERY customizable - Invidious [21:45] TR News Linux kernel source tree: Pull RISC-V updates from Palmer Dabbelt https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=aa5b537b0ecc16992577b013f11112d54c7ce869 Source: git [21:45] TR Bot kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree [21:46] TR News "In the past two days the number of games validated for the Steam Deck has jumped pretty fast once more. There are now more than 1900 games working on the Steam Deck (1914 at the time of writing) in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/1900-games-on-the-steam-deck-with-wolfenstein-the-new-order-and-mortal-kombat-x-as-verified/ [21:46] TR Bot 1900 Games On The Steam Deck, with Wolfenstein: The New Order and Mortal Kombat X as Verified - Boiling Steam [21:51] TR News ICBM hiring managers for southeast Asia from Microsoft and now... Cisco https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/getting-know-tammy-tan-country-manager-red-hat-malaysia [21:51] TR Bot Getting to know Tammy Tan, country manager for Red Hat Malaysia [21:51] bnchs schestowitz-TR, i might have figured out the code [21:52] bnchs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagel_and_cream_cheese [21:52] TR Bot Bagel and cream cheese - Wikipedia [21:52] bnchs "A bagel and cream cheese (also known as bagel with cream cheese) is a common food pairing in American cuisine," [21:53] schestowitz-TR the bagel in't "fatass" enough [21:53] schestowitz-TR let's throw lots of cheesy cheese at it!! [21:54] bnchs american cuisine [21:54] bnchs they put cheese on everything [21:55] TR News Weird list as Gulag does crawl many of these https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-dark-websites-google-wont-find/#respond [21:55] TR Bot 12 of the Best Dark Websites Google Won't Let You Find - Make Tech Easier [21:55] bnchs devil's advocate [21:55] bnchs but when you get used to eating tons of food [21:55] bnchs your stomach just expands to handle that much [21:56] bnchs and it means more hunger [21:57] bnchs it's harder to diet that way, because you start feeling like a straving african in the first day [21:58] TR News Drawing A MS Paint Similar Tool to Edit Images in Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163050#comment-33213 [21:58] TR Bot Drawing 1.0 Simple Image Editor for Linux Released | Tux Machines ● Mar 27 [22:02] TR News The Best compression utilities for Ubuntu Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163052 [22:02] TR Bot The Best compression utilities for Ubuntu | Tux Machines [22:07] bnchs schestowitz-TR, i heard you like cheese in your burger [22:07] bnchs so i put cheese in the cheese [22:07] bnchs https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Burger_King_Quad_Stacker_cheeseburger.jpg [22:07] Alternative link Cloudflare: wikimedia.org | Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Burger_King_Quad_Stacker_cheeseburger.jpg [22:07] bnchs just look at the juicy cheese [22:11] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031868 [22:11] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/dw5x62annun81.jpg created on 2022-03-18 22:19:38.274447 [22:12] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:14] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:16] schestowitz-TR gnome has software called "cheese" [22:16] schestowitz-TR but reference to "sau cheeeese" [22:16] schestowitz-TR I've just installed webcamoid on the new lapto [22:16] schestowitz-TR works well, but I'd not want to encode video on it, it's far to weak for such a task [22:17] bnchs yes [22:17] bnchs but it needs more cheese [22:20] DaemonFC I'm stocking up on some things while they're on iBotta. [22:21] DaemonFC Mandy likes my Kung Pao Chicken, but the cashews have gotten expensive. Big rebates right now. [22:21] DaemonFC I'll just buy the maximum amount and stuff them in my pantry and then I can make it several more times on the cashews I bought real cheap. [22:21] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:22] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:22] DaemonFC I have about 80 pounds of chicken in the freezer right now. [22:22] DaemonFC Something like that. [22:22] DaemonFC 28 pounds of ground beef, iirc. [22:22] DaemonFC 4 big chuck roasts. [22:22] DaemonFC Lots of pork chops. [22:23] DaemonFC Those were on BOGO at Jewel so I loaded up on those. [22:23] DaemonFC I buy entire carts worth of cans at Aldi when I go over there. [22:23] *bnchs has quit (Quit: Leaving) [22:23] *lockeanarchist has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [22:24] DaemonFC You only save about a nickel per can vs. Walmart, but if you go over there and shop in bulk... [22:24] DaemonFC I pretty much have my own private supermarket. About the only thing you can't stockpile is fresh produce. [22:24] DaemonFC That spoils in days if you don't use it up. [22:25] DaemonFC But even if the store ran out of everything, I have plenty of meat, canned vegetables, and spices to last a long long time. 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[22:38] TR News New variant of Linux FUD in Microsoft sites http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/161291#comment-33214 [22:38] TR Bot VMware Has Launched Anti-Linux FUD Campaign | Tux Machines [22:41] *inky (~inky@46.36.114.138) has joined #techrights [22:45] TR News Releasing Slax 11.3 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163053 [22:45] TR Bot Releasing Slax 11.3 | Tux Machines [22:45] TR News Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163054 [22:45] TR Bot today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:49] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/22031853 [22:49] TR Bot IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/wrnv5dsgicn81.jpg created on 2022-03-18 17:27:56.167445 [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 16.41 k/sec., IPFS upstream 119.08 average k/sec., average swarm size 193.58 [22:59] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@us9rtg4z5u86u.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights ● Mar 27 [23:05] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:05] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Quit: Leaving) [23:05] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@us9rtg4z5u86u.irc) has joined #techrights [23:05] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:05] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:09] *SomeH4x0r (~someh4xx@xn36c5yja4qi4.irc) has joined #techrights [23:19] *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) [23:21] MinceR http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2393 [23:21] TR Bot Full Frontal Nerdity by Aaron Williams - 03/10/2022 [23:51] DaemonFC My Uncle Barry (an Uncle by marriage, my Aunt divorced him) refused a pension plan from RCA that didn't even cost anything to sign up for. [23:52] DaemonFC He said, "I'm not going to retire from here!". [23:52] DaemonFC Now he has no retirement income at all except a measly Social Security check that's barely enough to eat and pay rent with. [23:52] DaemonFC Everyone figures that 30-40 years might as well be forever from now. [23:52] DaemonFC Until they get old, can't work, and have nothing. [23:53] DaemonFC And honestly, not having a 401(k) screws you in a lot of ways you don't even consider. The IRS might even give you part of the value back each year as a tax credit, and if you have to file bankruptcy, the court can't touch any of it. [23:54] DaemonFC They can't make you take your retirement money to pay your bills with, so it's all protected no matter how much is in there, in addition to your exempt assets. [23:54] DaemonFC Of course, you could choose to empty it later voluntarily after all of your debts go away and you need money to rebuild your life with. [23:54] DaemonFC So it's a pile of cash your bill collectors can't get at. [23:58] DaemonFC https://wpt.fyi/interop-2022?stable [23:58] TR Bot web-platform-tests dashboard [23:59] DaemonFC Safari and Firefox are passing more tests than Chromium browsers. [23:59] DaemonFC Chrome really is the Internet Explorer 6 of 2022.