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| schestowitz | well, "pigfucker" is one of the reasons they'll leave | Jun 27 00:02 |
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| schestowitz | as I think they will, eventually | Jun 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | we went to parliament there 5 years ago | Jun 27 00:02 |
| schestowitz | around the time of SCOTUS/Alice decision, that's how I remember it | Jun 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | they already have key pieces in place for departure | Jun 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | they would speak English/Gaelic still | Jun 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | with the odd accent | Jun 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | not sure how border would be handles, esp. if they join the EU and UK leaves the EU | Jun 27 00:03 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Edinburgh | Jun 27 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Edinburgh | Jun 27 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +43,371 new cases in UK | Jun 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | *US | Jun 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | the number is not final yet | Jun 27 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Global total was 180,946 | Jun 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | so about a quarter is US | Jun 27 00:07 |
| schestowitz | with 4% of the world's population | Jun 27 00:07 |
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| MinceR | i thought the UK leaving the EU was a done thing already | Jun 27 00:11 |
| schestowitz | seems so | Jun 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz | except practical formality | Jun 27 00:13 |
| schestowitz | like settlement status next year, forgot due date | Jun 27 00:14 |
| schestowitz | most things have not changed yet | Jun 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz | like a couple getting divorced and still living together | Jun 27 00:15 |
| schestowitz | our PM nearly died 2 months ago | Jun 27 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, oh well. | Jun 27 00:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just going to have to burn itself out at this point because of idiots. | Jun 27 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | the EU should be abolished | Jun 27 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | freedom to the people | Jun 27 00:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Some police charity called wanting money for injured cops. | Jun 27 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him, "Well, I don't know if you've been watching the news lately, but thanks to that asshole up in Minnesota, we've had riots where I live, and frankly if it sends any cops to the hospital they should have been somewhere else instead of shooting at CNN. So fuck you people.". | Jun 27 00:24 |
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| schestowitz | lol | Jun 27 00:27 |
| schestowitz | +44,158 | Jun 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | us cases | Jun 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | still rising | Jun 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Who cares? | Jun 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Burns through in a few months. | Jun 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Less old people who can hold up the line and maybe vote for Trump again. | Jun 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To hell with them. | Jun 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | FL +8,942 | Jun 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, god fucking damn them anyway. | Jun 27 00:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Morons. | Jun 27 00:28 |
| schestowitz | TX +5,097 | Jun 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone agrees Florida sucks. | Jun 27 00:29 |
| schestowitz | Republican states | Jun 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, whoopsie. | Jun 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :D | Jun 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So much for the "It's over. Go shopping." narrative. | Jun 27 00:29 |
| schestowitz | [redneck accent+voice] YEAH, REOPEEEEN MURICA [/] | Jun 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The politicians can say all the stupid shit they want at the moment, but nobody is going to cooperate with this. | Jun 27 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My bankruptcy lawyer is a Republican and she's staying in her house even though the state's "open" again kinda. | Jun 27 00:30 |
| schestowitz | "the spike in COVID in the three most populous U.S. states of California, Texas and Florida." | Jun 27 00:30 |
| schestowitz | https://www.democracynow.org/2020/6/25/brazil_us_coronavirus_cases_surge_marcia | Jun 27 00:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | How U.S. and Brazil Leadership That “Neglects Science” Led to Hemisphere’s Worst Coronavirus Crises | Democracy Now! | Jun 27 00:30 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/25/texas-gov-abbott-warns-covid-19-getting-out-control-yes-say-critics-because-you | Jun 27 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Texas Gov. Abbott Warns Covid-19 Getting 'Out of Control.' Yes, Say Critics, Because You Knowingly 'Unleashed It' | Common Dreams News | Jun 27 00:31 | |
| schestowitz | from yesterday | Jun 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What it'll do is purge some of the Outer Party who are stupid and more likely to be uninsured anyway and are being farmed for votes. | Jun 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's campaign people are down with the sickness, dont'cha know? | Jun 27 00:31 |
| schestowitz | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/25/states-overwhelmed-coronavirus-pandemic-face-another-health-hazard-massive-dust | Jun 27 00:31 |
| schestowitz | "People with respiratory ailments in Texas and Florida, where hospitals are nearing capacity with Covid-19 patients, may find little healthcare support if the dust plume exacerbates their conditions." | Jun 27 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | States Overwhelmed by Coronavirus Pandemic Face Another Health Hazard as Massive Dust Plume Heads Toward Southern US | Common Dreams News | Jun 27 00:31 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 8 people that were setting up his failed Tulsa rally got it, at least. | Jun 27 00:31 |
| schestowitz | how much in medical bills? | Jun 27 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then he was mad that it made the news. | Jun 27 00:31 |
| schestowitz | at least SOMEONE will be happy | Jun 27 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck if I know. Hasta Lasagna, don't get any on ya. | Jun 27 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People going in and out of our laundry area with no mask on. | Jun 27 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Hasta Lasagna? | Jun 27 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Spanish Italian recipe? | Jun 27 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm in there looking like Bane between this hair cut and the black mask. | Jun 27 00:32 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the issue might be the handles | Jun 27 00:33 |
| schestowitz | and gloves might not help | Jun 27 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Industrial strength hand sanitizer. | Jun 27 00:33 |
| schestowitz | if you live in communal apartment it's hard, even pressing buttons in elevators | Jun 27 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After the gloves come off. | Jun 27 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I go inside and wash my hands. | Jun 27 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can only do what you can do. | Jun 27 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The hand sanitizer is in case I got any on my hands taking the gloves off. | Jun 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | tbh, rianne does the sanitation here, and spends ages on it. but.... it would hardly be possible if we live in a 'shoebox' apartment | Jun 27 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I wash my hands because why not. | Jun 27 00:34 |
| schestowitz | my dad barely left the home... as he's in the dangerous age group | Jun 27 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The manager at this place thought she'd save money getting rid of the trash cans. | Jun 27 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So these animals are just throwing garbage bags where the trash cans used to be. | Jun 27 00:35 |
| schestowitz | it can leak | Jun 27 00:35 |
| schestowitz | that can also attract vermin, depending how 'indoor' it is | Jun 27 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I swipedsome of those big contractor bags and I've been throwing the Walmart bags in there as they fill with trash. | Jun 27 00:36 |
| schestowitz | that's how you get things like covid-19, poor handling of biological matter | Jun 27 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then taking the trash out every couple of weeks so I don't have to hang around the dumpster any more than necessary. | Jun 27 00:36 |
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| schestowitz | +44,366 | Jun 27 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Oh this virus is really tricky, and then those people who won't even wear a mask are everywhere. | Jun 27 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cops doing fuck all about it, ,despite the law. | Jun 27 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What else is new? | Jun 27 00:38 |
| schestowitz | unless it's a protester with a mask | Jun 27 00:38 |
| schestowitz | then they beat the s out of them | Jun 27 00:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I love the police. | Jun 27 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If a black person goes out without a mask, they're breaking the law. Get em! | Jun 27 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If a black person goes out with a mask, they're antifa! Get em! | Jun 27 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I know where the anti-Mexican sentiment comes from. | Jun 27 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have a work ethic and give a shit about their family. | Jun 27 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It pisses white people off that Mexicans are everything we say we are and aren't. | Jun 27 00:41 |
| schestowitz | +44,847 | Jun 27 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good, fuck em. | Jun 27 00:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Get in there. Die. I want my country back! | Jun 27 00:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: same for pinoys | Jun 27 00:42 |
| schestowitz | very dedicated to family members, parents, kids, siblings | Jun 27 00:42 |
| schestowitz | even leaving them just to support them financially | Jun 27 00:42 |
| schestowitz | in the US it's done to bomb people | Jun 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Except for Maricel. What a piece of shit. | Jun 27 00:43 |
| schestowitz | leaving the family to 'work' in the US Army | Jun 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, living here has "changed her" and she wasn't like this in the Philippines. | Jun 27 00:43 |
| schestowitz | killing countries that are mostly/only "black" and "brown"... IF those countries have natural resources like oil | Jun 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She acts like a spoiled little 5 year old that someone forgot to turn over their knee. | Jun 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's terrrble. | Jun 27 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *terrible | Jun 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | there are always outliers | Jun 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | in every country/group | Jun 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | you go by averages... | Jun 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | or medians | Jun 27 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This woman is fucked up. Crazy insane and insane crazy. | Jun 27 00:44 |
| schestowitz | +45,252 | Jun 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | Trump... the bestest numbers | Jun 27 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No sense of morality whatsoever. | Jun 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | big league | Jun 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | and wait, it's not over yet | Jun 27 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So? | Jun 27 00:45 |
| schestowitz | it's growing every minute as the daily sums come in | Jun 27 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't have a dog in this fight, schestowitz | Jun 27 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Except to say thank god me and Mandy aren't old and will probably live if we get it. | Jun 27 00:46 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe after it "washes over" America getting rid of those entitled do nothing arrogant shitheads in my parents' generation, we'll get rid of Trump. | Jun 27 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They haven't done anything to make me want to like them. | Jun 27 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're literally the reason this country is on the verge of collapse. | Jun 27 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've had it their way for so long that we might not survive it. | Jun 27 00:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why should I be sad for this? | Jun 27 00:47 |
| schestowitz | depends... | Jun 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | some of them were more hard-working than today's kids | Jun 27 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their parents at least did something besides bitch that they didn't get the correct amount of cinnamon in their Starbucks. | Jun 27 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean god damn. | Jun 27 00:48 |
| schestowitz | When I say today's kids I mean kids | Jun 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | like under 18s | Jun 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | my generation was a bit better | Jun 27 00:49 |
| schestowitz | but already jilted enough by parents' greed | Jun 27 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone says their generation was better. | Jun 27 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, not good role models. | Jun 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | houses still priced out of reach and jobs going where they ought not... for some short-term gains or so-called business heroes | Jun 27 00:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My parents are both narcissistic, self-absorbed, self-serving. Absolutely nuts. | Jun 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | We're saving for early retirement | Jun 27 00:50 |
| schestowitz | maybe in Negros Occidental | Jun 27 00:51 |
| schestowitz | too hard to tell, too early | Jun 27 00:51 |
| schestowitz | the currencies can rapidly lose their weight | Jun 27 00:51 |
| schestowitz | (purchasing power) | Jun 27 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, Thomson sent the Consumer Electronics division to Mexico, then eventually gave up on that, sold the brands to the Chinese, and became a patent troll. | Jun 27 00:51 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Carl was working in technical stuff IIRC, Madame Harmon still helping ageing people | Jun 27 00:52 |
| schestowitz | not lazy at all | Jun 27 00:52 |
| schestowitz | there's far worse than them | Jun 27 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they sold the patent division to another patent troll and filed bankruptcy. | Jun 27 00:52 |
| schestowitz | at least they're not a burden on the system | Jun 27 00:52 |
| schestowitz | their patents are still used in lawsuits | Jun 27 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People who endlessly reproduce are the biggest strain on the system. | Jun 27 00:52 |
| schestowitz | biggest also literally | Jun 27 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Brian Culley (Gonad). | Jun 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | because their footprint in terms of mass is bigger | Jun 27 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Spawned a bunch of little Culleys, who spawned some more. | Jun 27 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Clogging up the courts and the welfare offices. | Jun 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | but the clogup is the oligarchy | Jun 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | not paying taxes | Jun 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | not giving jobs to locals | Jun 27 00:53 |
| schestowitz | pure parasites, but they get their media to label them "job creators" | Jun 27 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "their patents are still used in "> The patents that my dad assigned to RCA, which Thomson acquired, expired roughly 1999/2001. | Jun 27 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they're harmless now. | Jun 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | That's EU's Breton | Jun 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | We wrote about those patents last year in December | Jun 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | He was in Thomson | Jun 27 00:54 |
| schestowitz | RCA... when the US - gasp - made something.. without tear gas or gunpowder inside it | Jun 27 00:55 |
| schestowitz | +46,831 | Jun 27 00:56 |
| schestowitz | rising fast | Jun 27 00:56 |
| schestowitz | maybe 50k soon | Jun 27 00:56 |
| schestowitz | if it's not too late for that tally | Jun 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | previous high was 39k something iirc | Jun 27 00:57 |
| schestowitz | back in april | Jun 27 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Apparently, although court fines and recent taxes can't be discharged in a bankruptcy, if you paid them with a credit card, it goes away. | Jun 27 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess it goes against the spirit of the bankruptcy code, which is to leave fines intact as a way of punishing you, but not the letter of the law, because credit cards are just unsecured loans. | Jun 27 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose student loans would work the same way. | Jun 27 01:10 |
| schestowitz | credit card is a misnomer | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | I've long rejected the term | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | it's a card-carrying borrower | Jun 27 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you could just file bankruptcy against criminal fines, everyone would do it. | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | it's a loan card | Jun 27 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But putting it on a credit card and throwing the credit card in, is acceptable. | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | and the lender is looking for big returns | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | or you could extend the metaphor to "slavery card" | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | "I carry a bondage card, baby..." | Jun 27 01:11 |
| schestowitz | I'm owned by the bank | Jun 27 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't you mean a dependent? | Jun 27 01:12 |
| schestowitz | "anything I buy you in this dinner.. I do at the expense of my fiscal masters" | Jun 27 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's owned by the primary. | Jun 27 01:12 |
| schestowitz | wait | Jun 27 01:12 |
| schestowitz | you mock the term? | Jun 27 01:12 |
| schestowitz | master/slave? | Jun 27 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Jun 27 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, if the SJWs redefined masters and slaves, then we're going to have to ban Depeche Mode and come up with new terms for, well of English really. | Jun 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Including the bible, which actually has a proverb that says the borrower is the slave to the lender. | Jun 27 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *all of | Jun 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz | it's technically true at some level | Jun 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My in laws nearly lost their house to a primary. | Jun 27 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then a primary company sued them over a dependent card. | Jun 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz | so ask yourself, who masters the sanitisers of language? | Jun 27 01:14 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 27 01:15 |
| schestowitz | dependent card | Jun 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh my god, those people are the biggest idiots with money I've ever seen. | Jun 27 01:15 |
| schestowitz | mastercard? | Jun 27 01:15 |
| schestowitz | credit card? | Jun 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mark got pulled over and fined for speeding about a dozen times. | Jun 27 01:15 |
| schestowitz | heck, maybe they'll go after mastercard next | Jun 27 01:15 |
| schestowitz | forcing the company to rename | Jun 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've been sued twice over credit cards and nearly got foreclosed on in 2014. | Jun 27 01:15 |
| schestowitz | that SURE would confuse many people | Jun 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Let's play master and servant! | Jun 27 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a lot....It's a lot....It's a lot like life.... | Jun 27 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | B-) | Jun 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | society is all master-slave | Jun 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | like employee-employer | Jun 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | banning words won't serve towards a solution | Jun 27 01:16 |
| oiaohm | Really all this SJW stuff over master slave what are going to do when they get into plumbing | Jun 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | in fact, USING those terms will emphasiee the injustice | Jun 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | but the masters don't want people to use such terms | Jun 27 01:16 |
| schestowitz | This won't accomplish anything concrete | Jun 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz | just a long, slow clap | Jun 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz | well done, you changed words | Jun 27 01:17 |
| schestowitz | and yet, blacks still lack opportunities in jobs | Jun 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | and cannot afford college | Jun 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | slow clap | Jun 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | but now python doesn't call any code/object "master" | Jun 27 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My in laws have great jobs and they're getting sued to the point the bank is going to take their clothes for a rummage sale. | Jun 27 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is absurd. It's perverse. | Jun 27 01:18 |
| schestowitz | and used clothes undersell | Jun 27 01:19 |
| schestowitz | once worn by an unknown person, value collapses | Jun 27 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, she was fucking pissed off at the idea I was filing bankruptcy and they can't. | Jun 27 01:19 |
| schestowitz | more so than cars, which rapidly lose their value once used/driven | Jun 27 01:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just got rid of more debt than she makes in a year. | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | who's she? | Jun 27 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy's sister. | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | I love this irony | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | class/career climbers | Jun 27 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She said she would call the police and have them arrest me because I didn't pay my credit card bill. | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | getting pwned by their own petard | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | a happy ending kind of slant to it | Jun 27 01:20 |
| schestowitz | you can't buy tact | Jun 27 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was racist. | Jun 27 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (They're Asian" | Jun 27 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Errr *) | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Most of the world is Asian | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | or hald of it | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | *half | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | in US Asian means eastasian | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | here it means PK/IN | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | typically | Jun 27 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, how does that happen? | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | or "southasian" | Jun 27 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Isn't Asia where they make the condoms? | Jun 27 01:21 |
| schestowitz | but when you say asian people assume British colony Asia | Jun 27 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd think they'd have some. | Jun 27 01:22 |
| schestowitz | PH is 'Asiyan' (how they'd pronounce it) | Jun 27 01:22 |
| schestowitz | ASEAN | Jun 27 01:22 |
| schestowitz | +47,093 | Jun 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz | neck-to-neck with Brazil now | Jun 27 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, you overpopulate and everyone's fucking poor. | Jun 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz | +46,907 brazil | Jun 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz | go USA! | Jun 27 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then you wonder why the rich countries are where they managed to stem the tide in the reproduction rate. | Jun 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz | numba' one! | Jun 27 01:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it's more complicated than this | Jun 27 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It still gets a lot worse than the US. Like, most of the world..... | Jun 27 01:24 |
| schestowitz | the angle of child mortality, financial comfort (not relying on kids to support you), longevity, surrounding, culture... child 'shame' (having too many kids of social stigma) | Jun 27 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh my God. What's so complicated about "Your country is swimming in sewage and you can cut the air with a knife because you have a billion people in a city!"? | Jun 27 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | London was just godawful not more than 100 years ago. | Jun 27 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cut the shit. Birth control. Environmental protection laws. | Jun 27 01:25 |
| schestowitz | still is | Jun 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | unless you are rich or borrow a lot | Jun 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | it's like manhattan to live in it... near the center | Jun 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | or centre | Jun 27 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | yeah, like Chicago. | Jun 27 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Chicago is bad, and very overpriced. | Jun 27 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Especially closer to the downtown area. | Jun 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | London is inward immigration hub | Jun 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | it also attracts some truly brilliant people though | Jun 27 01:26 |
| schestowitz | it's brain-draining some of the world | Jun 27 01:27 |
| schestowitz | which is why I'm not against | Jun 27 01:27 |
| schestowitz | SF in US.. same | Jun 27 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US has been brain drained. They call it Trump. | Jun 27 01:27 |
| schestowitz | yes, it does harm | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | but... | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | so was Bush II | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | I know some who left back then | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | smart people | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | hard-working people | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | those who could still migrate | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | the people I see now yearning to move to the US are fascists | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | like right-wing nuts | Jun 27 01:28 |
| schestowitz | they see the US as a land of opportunity for ethnostates | Jun 27 01:29 |
| schestowitz | and I'm not exaggerating... there's at least one trump proponent in this channel who's like that | Jun 27 01:29 |
| schestowitz | +47,198 | Jun 27 01:31 |
| schestowitz | Bolsonaro 300 cases shy today | Jun 27 01:31 |
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| schestowitz | Europe as a whole does 47k in a whole week maybe, combined | Jun 27 01:31 |
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| schestowitz | +47,200 | Jun 27 01:36 |
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| schestowitz | Russia+Europe deaths: +47,200 | Jun 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz | oops | Jun 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz | 598 | Jun 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz | US 660 | Jun 27 01:37 |
| schestowitz | +47,224 | Jun 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | that's what you call "Spreading out of control" | Jun 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | and contract tracing would seem like more of a joke than ever | Jun 27 01:40 |
| schestowitz | unless it does nothing but providing some stats about number of cases per area, as a generic guidance re threat of infection | Jun 27 01:41 |
| schestowitz | Japan says it has 836 known active cases | Jun 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | so it can map these still | Jun 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | or isolate those people | Jun 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | or house them in special hospital units | Jun 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | you cannot do that with 1.5 million subjects | Jun 27 01:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe orange nazi will just say some "herd" thing (immunity) and urge to just "let it spread" and "be done with the whole thing" | Jun 27 01:43 |
| schestowitz | a couple of million deaths later and it's MAGA! | Jun 27 01:43 |
| schestowitz | and US tourists will be viewed like lepers by the whole world, inc. mx and ca | Jun 27 01:43 |
| schestowitz | +47,230 | Jun 27 01:48 |
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| schestowitz | seems like the final total was +47,341 | Jun 27 02:11 |
| CrystalMath | why would anyone care about how many people got the cold yesterday | Jun 27 02:33 |
| CrystalMath | this is the silliest statistic i've ever seen | Jun 27 02:33 |
| CrystalMath | i work at a university and i've been around hundreds of students last week | Jun 27 02:34 |
| CrystalMath | the vast majority wore no masks at all | Jun 27 02:34 |
| superkuh | Because over half of the asymptomatic cases have occlusions on ct scans of their lungs. (only one paper, 16/26, chinese, but still). | Jun 27 02:34 |
| CrystalMath | and i didn't even get a cold | Jun 27 02:34 |
| CrystalMath | superkuh: i strongly doubt that, since the lung damage is always caused by an immune response in the case of viruses | Jun 27 02:35 |
| CrystalMath | which would not have been measurable without symptoms | Jun 27 02:35 |
| CrystalMath | also.... the fact that there is something IS a symptom | Jun 27 02:35 |
| CrystalMath | so how can it be asymptomatic anyway? | Jun 27 02:35 |
| superkuh | The mechanism wouldn't be cytokine storms in that case, no. | Jun 27 02:35 |
| superkuh | These were people who lived with people who were confirmed positive but reported no symptoms but tested positive. | Jun 27 02:36 |
| superkuh | Er, lived with people who were hospitalized. | Jun 27 02:36 |
| superkuh | Anyway, calling it the common cold is silly too. | Jun 27 02:36 |
| superkuh | But yeah, looking at hospitalizations per day might be a less noisy metric. | Jun 27 02:37 |
| CrystalMath | in the entire world it couldn't even kill a million | Jun 27 02:37 |
| CrystalMath | the flu can do better than that | Jun 27 02:37 |
| CrystalMath | the flu can kill 10 million in a year | Jun 27 02:37 |
| CrystalMath | or more | Jun 27 02:37 |
| CrystalMath | of course we should be talking about millions dead | Jun 27 02:38 |
| CrystalMath | if it's a serious pandemic | Jun 27 02:38 |
| CrystalMath | but it's not... | Jun 27 02:38 |
| CrystalMath | this virus is actually milder than Setracovirus was when it first hit 1,000 years ago | Jun 27 02:38 |
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| CrystalMath | i mean, i don't understand in what world do millions NOT die every year | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | i have never seen such a planet | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | on this one, people die, a lot | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | a LOT | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | like if you could see every dead person who died today, you'd be shocked at how many that is | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | it's way more than a thousand | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | would you even have time to get a good look at them? i doubt it | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | and they're all gone forever | Jun 27 02:42 |
| CrystalMath | it's that easy, to disappear for all eternity | Jun 27 02:43 |
| CrystalMath | actually, i just did the math, you'd literally have less than half a second to look at every person who died today | Jun 27 02:47 |
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| CrystalMath | and you'd have to be looking at them for all 24 hours | Jun 27 02:47 |
| CrystalMath | at just 300-400 milliseconds each | Jun 27 02:47 |
| CrystalMath | THAT is how many people die | Jun 27 02:48 |
| CrystalMath | of course births are even crazier... they occur at 2.5x this rate! | Jun 27 02:49 |
| schestowitz | sweden reported 50 deaths friday | Jun 27 02:52 |
| schestowitz | for 10 million people | Jun 27 02:52 |
| schestowitz | with covid19 | Jun 27 02:52 |
| schestowitz | for flu they have a shot | Jun 27 02:52 |
| schestowitz | which the vulnerable groups take | Jun 27 02:53 |
| CrystalMath | on average 200 people die every day in sweden | Jun 27 02:55 |
| schestowitz | if we delay this spread long enough we can at least use some plasma to spread the antibodies to those who need them | Jun 27 02:56 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: so a quarter died from this virus alone | Jun 27 02:56 |
| schestowitz | and it's not even widespread | Jun 27 02:56 |
| schestowitz | in sweden many also die from car accidents, cardiac arrests etc. | Jun 27 02:57 |
| schestowitz | those aren't easy to prevent | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | according to swedish antibody research on covid | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | 50x more people had it | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | than was reported | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | which is obvious, since they had NO measures at all | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | of course everyone's gonna get it | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | of course it's not *nothing*, some people are gonna die | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | but it's not gonna double the death rate | Jun 27 02:57 |
| CrystalMath | especially not in the whole year | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | you'll see it round out | Jun 27 02:58 |
| schestowitz | they're one of the world's worst | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | as many of the peopl who died | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | *people | Jun 27 02:58 |
| schestowitz | more than one in 2000 died | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | would have died anywhere | Jun 27 02:58 |
| schestowitz | in a few months | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | *anyway | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | it's normal for 6,000-ish to die in sweden every month | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | if some died earlier than they would have normally | Jun 27 02:58 |
| CrystalMath | (which is tbh ALWAYS the case, the question is just by how much) | Jun 27 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | you'll see it round out | Jun 27 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | ultimately it'll be nothing more than a tiny blip | Jun 27 02:59 |
| schestowitz | in the UK they calculated number of deaths for the quarter or month | Jun 27 02:59 |
| schestowitz | and found that the number increased by about 50k | Jun 27 02:59 |
| schestowitz | so those are 50k extra deaths | Jun 27 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | earlier deaths | Jun 27 02:59 |
| schestowitz | not people who "would have died anyway" | Jun 27 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | EVERYONE will die anyway | Jun 27 02:59 |
| CrystalMath | it's just a matter of when | Jun 27 02:59 |
| schestowitz | this is a silly debate | Jun 27 03:00 |
| schestowitz | I'm out of here... bbl | Jun 27 03:00 |
| CrystalMath | if it's old people the statistical blip will be insignificant | Jun 27 03:00 |
| CrystalMath | tbh, if your governments wanted | Jun 27 03:00 |
| CrystalMath | they could have easily hid COVID-19 | Jun 27 03:00 |
| CrystalMath | not that that would be great | Jun 27 03:00 |
| insmodppa | CrystalMath: One day you and your loved ones too will become old/poor/lame and be an "insignificant blip". | Jun 27 03:04 |
| CrystalMath | give it enough time and my entire life will be an insignificant blip | Jun 27 03:06 |
| CrystalMath | and all our lives | Jun 27 03:07 |
| CrystalMath | and the entire lifetime of humanity | Jun 27 03:07 |
| CrystalMath | what i'm saying is, whether there's something to fear? yes and no | Jun 27 03:07 |
| CrystalMath | you can't ever count on being alive | Jun 27 03:07 |
| CrystalMath | the universe does not accept that as your right | Jun 27 03:08 |
| CrystalMath | being alive is a huge privilege | Jun 27 03:08 |
| CrystalMath | so i mean, we're all gonna die... but when? who cares... we were born without our consent and we'll all die without our consent | Jun 27 03:09 |
| CrystalMath | just live for today | Jun 27 03:10 |
| schestowitz | make your own closed community | Jun 27 03:17 |
| schestowitz | fence it | Jun 27 03:17 |
| schestowitz | stay there | Jun 27 03:17 |
| schestowitz | leave us out of it | Jun 27 03:18 |
| schestowitz | fence yourself in... in some ant-vaxxer ghetto | Jun 27 03:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have no idea who is dying of this, actually. Probably most of them are people who didn't have long left. | Jun 27 03:18 |
| schestowitz | and good luck with longevity of 25 years like a few centuries back... and child mortality at around 30% | Jun 27 03:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: they get disconnected faster | Jun 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz | unless they are rich and important | Jun 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz | once they're on the machines they can be on them forever or for months | Jun 27 03:19 |
| schestowitz | so the respirators/ventilators are passed to those with higher chances of surviving | Jun 27 03:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it's triage. | Jun 27 03:20 |
| schestowitz | the faster it spreads, the more competition there is for these "machines" | Jun 27 03:20 |
| schestowitz | FL and TX have it hard right now | Jun 27 03:20 |
| schestowitz | dialysis is the same | Jun 27 03:20 |
| schestowitz | and many other machines | Jun 27 03:20 |
| schestowitz | some keep loved ones in vegetative state | Jun 27 03:21 |
| schestowitz | they won't have high priority for food digestion and breathing assistance | Jun 27 03:21 |
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| oiaohm | CrystalMath: https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/styles/full__3500x3500__-_b/public/images/publications/2020/06/coronavirus-covid-19-at-a-glance_19.png This has the covid-19 death shape for Australia. | Jun 27 03:34 |
| oiaohm | Yes most of the dead are old but its when you get like 80-89 where you have like 1 in 5 rate gets really hard to hide. | Jun 27 03:35 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: you seem to be complaining about a lot of people for not wanting to go along with your pandemic game | Jun 27 03:37 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: so maybe you people should fence yourself in, see how long you can maintain a worthless life | Jun 27 03:38 |
| CrystalMath | i'd rather live for only 30 years but make it count | Jun 27 03:38 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://academic.oup.com/ije/article/34/6/1435/707557 25 years was the time of rome. | Jun 27 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-academic.oup.com | Longevity of popes and artists between the 13th and the 19th century | International Journal of Epidemiology | Oxford Academic | Jun 27 03:38 | |
| oiaohm | So that at least 5 centuries back now. | Jun 27 03:39 |
| CrystalMath | yes that's interesting | Jun 27 03:39 |
| CrystalMath | but, quantity vs. quality, i guess | Jun 27 03:40 |
| CrystalMath | the longer our loves have become, all the more empty they are | Jun 27 03:40 |
| oiaohm | Rome quality of life was not that great either. | Jun 27 03:40 |
| CrystalMath | *lives | Jun 27 03:41 |
| CrystalMath | anyway | Jun 27 03:41 |
| CrystalMath | if i'ma gonna be a slave my whole life then i hope that it's as short as possible | Jun 27 03:42 |
| oiaohm | Depends what kind of slave. | Jun 27 03:42 |
| CrystalMath | no it doesn't | Jun 27 03:42 |
| CrystalMath | not for me | Jun 27 03:42 |
| oiaohm | There have been historic examples of well treated slaves. | Jun 27 03:43 |
| CrystalMath | i don't care about that | Jun 27 03:43 |
| CrystalMath | i believe in freedom | Jun 27 03:43 |
| CrystalMath | humans should be free, even if it means only living 10 years | Jun 27 03:43 |
| CrystalMath | death should not be feared | Jun 27 03:43 |
| CrystalMath | it is better to die than to not live as a free individual | Jun 27 03:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hmmm. | Jun 27 03:45 |
| oiaohm | It depends on point in history. There are historic examples of people in the slave class getting a painless death due to decent living conditions and those in the so call free class getting exposed to toxic chemicals and the like and having a slow painful death. | Jun 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A Pope that lived to be 78 and survived kidney stone surgery in the 1600s. | Jun 27 03:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Interesting. | Jun 27 03:45 |
| CrystalMath | slow painful death does not matter if you're a free and responsible individual | Jun 27 03:46 |
| CrystalMath | the important thing is that you lived your life well, however short | Jun 27 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 78 back then was like living to be 115 now. | Jun 27 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lots of people live to be 78 now. | Jun 27 03:46 |
| oiaohm | CrystalMath: You not exactly free if you critically ill for your complete lifespan. | Jun 27 03:46 |
| CrystalMath | well if everyone is, we'll evolve past it | Jun 27 03:47 |
| CrystalMath | as long as survivors procreate on time | Jun 27 03:47 |
| oiaohm | It really does depend on time in history. Some point being a slave you have decent life with some freedoms. Not being a slave equals being sick basically screwed over by bad health for your complete life. | Jun 27 03:48 |
| CrystalMath | so what? | Jun 27 03:48 |
| CrystalMath | i mean so what | Jun 27 03:48 |
| CrystalMath | that doesn't matter at all | Jun 27 03:48 |
| oiaohm | So the slave in that time frame gets to use the freedoms. | Jun 27 03:48 |
| CrystalMath | nature has every right to beat me to a pulp | Jun 27 03:48 |
| oiaohm | they get. | Jun 27 03:48 |
| CrystalMath | but no human does | Jun 27 03:48 |
| oiaohm | Funny part was the owners of the slaves where doing themselves in with roman times. | Jun 27 03:49 |
| oiaohm | Stuff the slaves were banned from having were in fact toxic and caused bad health. | Jun 27 03:49 |
| CrystalMath | but what i mean is, it's better to die somewhere independently than depend on society | Jun 27 03:51 |
| oiaohm | CrystalMath: its really a mixed bag of when. Total freedom without the knowledge to live well is normally path to bad health. | Jun 27 03:51 |
| CrystalMath | and it's better to die from a virus than hide from it | Jun 27 03:51 |
| CrystalMath | Sweden has the right idea | Jun 27 03:51 |
| oiaohm | Bad health can be more restrictive than being a slave on what you can do in your life time. | Jun 27 03:51 |
| CrystalMath | well | Jun 27 03:52 |
| CrystalMath | with decades of lacking society's protection | Jun 27 03:52 |
| CrystalMath | we would evolve to be tougher | Jun 27 03:52 |
| CrystalMath | and then we'd live 20-30 years alright | Jun 27 03:52 |
| CrystalMath | then die | Jun 27 03:52 |
| CrystalMath | that's fine | Jun 27 03:52 |
| CrystalMath | but a ton of people have to die for natural selection to do this job | Jun 27 03:53 |
| CrystalMath | really, COVID-19 is nothing | Jun 27 03:55 |
| CrystalMath | what humanity needs is massive death therapy | Jun 27 03:55 |
| CrystalMath | i mean, i'm not 30 yet, i really feel old though | Jun 27 03:57 |
| CrystalMath | i feel like i don't need to live much more | Jun 27 03:57 |
| CrystalMath | the sadness of knowing that i had had the wrong kind of thinking for most of my life is offset by the tranquility in knowing that absolutely nothing matters at all | Jun 27 03:58 |
| CrystalMath | and at the very least, now, near the end, i am fully aware of the truth about this useless world | Jun 27 03:59 |
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| CrystalMath | idk why i'm here, this channel gives me a lot of frustration but it's also good a lot of the time | Jun 27 04:11 |
| oiaohm | Lot of the younger people to die from covid-19 had lung damage from smoking and the like. | Jun 27 04:12 |
| CrystalMath | i guess i'm here because i believe in software freedom, which is a kind of individual freedom | Jun 27 04:12 |
| oiaohm | Some of the reasons why the death point in Australia is in the older age group with covid-19 is work place health and safety requirements with dust and the like causing lung damage. | Jun 27 04:13 |
| oiaohm | So back in time if covid-19 happened the death rate in the younger could be way higher. | Jun 27 04:13 |
| CrystalMath | what does COVID-19 have to do with software freedom though? | Jun 27 04:13 |
| CrystalMath | why do we talk about it? | Jun 27 04:14 |
| oiaohm | software freedom has the same problems of the balancing acts. | Jun 27 04:14 |
| CrystalMath | http://stallman.org/articles/dont-watch-covid-tv.html | Jun 27 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Don’t watch TV coverage of Covid-19! | Jun 27 04:14 | |
| CrystalMath | as always rms blesses us with his wisdom | Jun 27 04:15 |
| CrystalMath | i'm reading this and i'm like, finally someone normal | Jun 27 04:16 |
| oiaohm | With Australia I have been watching the heath site that really gives what the current restrictions are and what the current death rates look like and the risk factors. | Jun 27 04:17 |
| CrystalMath | yes but as rms says, that's a way to traumatize people | Jun 27 04:18 |
| CrystalMath | and take focus away from them taking our freedoms | Jun 27 04:18 |
| CrystalMath | a way to fight back would be to ignore COVID-19 | Jun 27 04:19 |
| CrystalMath | as much as we can | Jun 27 04:19 |
| CrystalMath | if you have to follow reports, fine, but why talk about it constantly? | Jun 27 04:19 |
| oiaohm | to be correct we have be ignoring many illnesses. | Jun 27 04:19 |
| oiaohm | Before COVID-19 and having a lot more death than we should have been. | Jun 27 04:20 |
| CrystalMath | i was always saying we're overpopulated | Jun 27 04:20 |
| oiaohm | You think how many people had got out of the habit of washing hands. | Jun 27 04:20 |
| CrystalMath | and should be dying more | Jun 27 04:20 |
| oiaohm | You think about how hospitials of old use to have soap and sink in every ward. | Jun 27 04:20 |
| oiaohm | and how many today don't have that. | Jun 27 04:21 |
| oiaohm | we got stupid. | Jun 27 04:21 |
| CrystalMath | i don't go to hospitals | Jun 27 04:21 |
| CrystalMath | if i'm sick, i die, that's it | Jun 27 04:21 |
| CrystalMath | who cares about health | Jun 27 04:21 |
| CrystalMath | screw health, long live free software | Jun 27 04:21 |
| oiaohm | Native tribes people wash there hands more often that most people living in cities before the out break of covid-19. | Jun 27 04:22 |
| CrystalMath | really? | Jun 27 04:22 |
| CrystalMath | eww | Jun 27 04:22 |
| oiaohm | Yes really. | Jun 27 04:22 |
| CrystalMath | but that's not about free software | Jun 27 04:22 |
| oiaohm | This is basics. | Jun 27 04:22 |
| oiaohm | We get the basics of health bad because we get lazy. Software UI being crap is kind of the same thing. | Jun 27 04:23 |
| oiaohm | Human nature is to be lazy is a fairly annoying problem. | Jun 27 04:23 |
| CrystalMath | okay that's a good point | Jun 27 04:23 |
| oiaohm | Everything put forwards so far to control covid-19 is basically stuff we should have really been doing anyhow. | Jun 27 04:24 |
| CrystalMath | not everything | Jun 27 04:25 |
| CrystalMath | social distancing is bad | Jun 27 04:25 |
| oiaohm | social distancing when ill we should have been doing. | Jun 27 04:25 |
| CrystalMath | yes but only when ill | Jun 27 04:25 |
| oiaohm | But we had stopped doing that. | Jun 27 04:25 |
| oiaohm | Also social distancing 1.5 meters is about the distancing that has been classed as historically acceptable. https://itotd.com/articles/6277/proxemics/ | Jun 27 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-itotd.com | Proxemics | Interesting Thing of the Day | Jun 27 04:35 | |
| oiaohm | CrystalMath: lot of studies getting too close due cause humans to stress why there has been such thing as personal space. Again social distancing of 1.5 as a target will give like a average of 1.3 that is what studies say humans like and that is before covid-19. | Jun 27 04:36 |
| oiaohm | Its the old historic thing respect person personal space but we now call it social distancing. | Jun 27 04:37 |
| CrystalMath | banning people from hugging is not acceptable | Jun 27 04:39 |
| CrystalMath | and, not accepted | Jun 27 04:39 |
| oiaohm | CrystalMath: https://saineslegal.com.au/2018/06/long-term-employee-dismissed-for-invading-receptionists-personal-space-2/ Fun one right getting under 1.2 meters of space in a workplace in Australia could be a dismissal offence and this is before covid-19. | Jun 27 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-saineslegal.com.au | LONG TERM EMPLOYEE DISMISSED FOR INVADING RECEPTIONIST'S PERSONAL SPACE | Employment Law Brisbane - Saines Legal | Jun 27 04:39 | |
| CrystalMath | i still shake hands | Jun 27 04:39 |
| CrystalMath | i don't care | Jun 27 04:39 |
| CrystalMath | oiaohm: australia was always fascist | Jun 27 04:40 |
| oiaohm | h | Jun 27 04:40 |
| oiaohm | That came from UK law. | Jun 27 04:40 |
| CrystalMath | the UK was always fascist | Jun 27 04:40 |
| CrystalMath | only canada maybe isn't | Jun 27 04:40 |
| CrystalMath | new zealand is fascist | Jun 27 04:40 |
| oiaohm | Shaking hands is a cultural thing. We have got out out of tip hat and other greeting as well. | Jun 27 04:40 |
| CrystalMath | i still shake hands | Jun 27 04:41 |
| CrystalMath | and i don't care | Jun 27 04:41 |
| oiaohm | Cultures that historically use to shake hands a lot use to be very particular to wash hands before meals and the like. | Jun 27 04:41 |
| CrystalMath | and i wash my hands | Jun 27 04:42 |
| CrystalMath | all the time | Jun 27 04:42 |
| CrystalMath | all my life i did it like 20 times a day or more | Jun 27 04:42 |
| CrystalMath | it just feels wrong when they feel dirty | Jun 27 04:42 |
| CrystalMath | maybe it's a tiny OCD-like thing | Jun 27 04:42 |
| oiaohm | Remember there were a lot before covid-19 who would be shaking everyone hand and be lucky to wash hands once a day. | Jun 27 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Again doing wrong things. | Jun 27 04:43 |
| oiaohm | We need a wake up call on lot of things things. | Jun 27 04:43 |
| oiaohm | Its like we need wake up call with software development to perform more automated quality control. | Jun 27 04:44 |
| oiaohm | 20 times a day might be too much. But once per day when shaking everyone hand is absolutely too few. | Jun 27 04:44 |
| CrystalMath | there's a difference between personal space and social distancing | Jun 27 04:46 |
| CrystalMath | also | Jun 27 04:46 |
| CrystalMath | because people can voluntarily give up personal space | Jun 27 04:46 |
| CrystalMath | while social distancing attempts to make it illegal, foolishly | Jun 27 04:46 |
| CrystalMath | i saw people hugging even during the height of the pandemic | Jun 27 04:46 |
| CrystalMath | probably more than usual | Jun 27 04:46 |
| CrystalMath | so in that above case, invading personal space is when it's not voluntary | Jun 27 04:47 |
| CrystalMath | however, just because this was a normal thing, does not mean australia is not fascist | Jun 27 04:47 |
| oiaohm | To be correct when you think about checkout lines and other things like it. Its been down right common to invide another person personal space without permission. | Jun 27 04:48 |
| oiaohm | That we really should not have been doing. | Jun 27 04:48 |
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| oiaohm | Human nature has centuries of prebuilt in programming that we have serous-ally been ignoring for personal gain. Lot of ways governments should not have had to do social distancing orders if we were giving everyone the personal space our nature tells us we should. | Jun 27 04:51 |
| CrystalMath | hugging is good, even though it spreads viruses | Jun 27 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Remember that lack of personal space increases human stress that lowers immune system. So we are programmed to reduced population. | Jun 27 04:52 |
| oiaohm | Hugging when person approves of it yes. | Jun 27 04:52 |
| CrystalMath | in fact, spreading some viruses is good | Jun 27 04:53 |
| oiaohm | When person does not give them their space right. | Jun 27 04:53 |
| oiaohm | Lot of these little social things we have been missing. | Jun 27 04:53 |
| CrystalMath | hmm, i'm trying to figure out what's the conspiracy here | Jun 27 04:53 |
| CrystalMath | is it a conspiracy to drive people crazy by denying them contact with their loved ones, or | Jun 27 04:54 |
| oiaohm | Its one of those hard things. | Jun 27 04:54 |
| CrystalMath | a conspiracy to make people depend on vaccines by denying them the natural vaccines that are found in weak viruses | Jun 27 04:54 |
| CrystalMath | because then they can be charged for it | Jun 27 04:54 |
| oiaohm | If harmful virus spread is reduced and human stress is reduced cost to medical system is reduced. | Jun 27 04:54 |
| CrystalMath | there's some conspiracy, i know it | Jun 27 04:55 |
| oiaohm | vaccines for many types of virus have limit life span. | Jun 27 04:55 |
| CrystalMath | well that's good for the sellers | Jun 27 04:55 |
| oiaohm | Including coming in contact with nature virus. | Jun 27 04:55 |
| CrystalMath | yes but natural viruses are free | Jun 27 04:55 |
| oiaohm | Our immune system is naturally forget full. | Jun 27 04:55 |
| oiaohm | very forgot full in fact. | Jun 27 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | there must be some conspiracy... | Jun 27 04:56 |
| oiaohm | Having low stress so immune system is as strong as possible is more important than vaccines. | Jun 27 04:56 |
| oiaohm | In a lot of cases. | Jun 27 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | ah, and! the conspiracy is to make people stressed | Jun 27 04:56 |
| CrystalMath | by sending agents to constantly talk about the pandemic | Jun 27 04:57 |
| CrystalMath | you must be one of those agents | Jun 27 04:57 |
| oiaohm | lack of personal space also causes stress as well. | Jun 27 04:57 |
| oiaohm | This is a mixed bag event. | Jun 27 04:57 |
| CrystalMath | yeah most people don't like crowds | Jun 27 04:57 |
| CrystalMath | idk | Jun 27 04:57 |
| CrystalMath | but there's a lot more stress in constantly talking about the pandemic | Jun 27 04:58 |
| oiaohm | that is built in human nature not to like crowds. | Jun 27 04:58 |
| oiaohm | because most crowds ingore personal space. | Jun 27 04:58 |
| oiaohm | Maybe we will like crowds like respect socail distancing/indirectly personal space. | Jun 27 04:58 |
| oiaohm | I see this as experiment on a large scale.. | Jun 27 04:59 |
| CrystalMath | i see this as an evil conspiracy | Jun 27 04:59 |
| CrystalMath | i just need to figure out about what | Jun 27 04:59 |
| CrystalMath | but the globalist elites cannot have a nice thought in their mind | Jun 27 05:00 |
| CrystalMath | not even one | Jun 27 05:00 |
| CrystalMath | they're cursed that way, i don't know how | Jun 27 05:00 |
| CrystalMath | the UN is all full of globalists and should not be listened to, ever | Jun 27 05:00 |
| oiaohm | It was globalist elites who resisted stopping travel because it would effect their bottom line. | Jun 27 05:01 |
| oiaohm | Its also globalist elites who got rid of all this historic quarantine stations. | Jun 27 05:01 |
| oiaohm | The complete covid-19 mess would have been way less with proper controls. | Jun 27 05:02 |
| oiaohm | Proper controls mean more regulation and restrictions on what globalists can do. | Jun 27 05:03 |
| oiaohm | CrystalMath: so really there has been a conspiracy before covid-19 to take apart all the disease spread control systems. | Jun 27 05:03 |
| CrystalMath | that's a conspiracy i would have participated in | Jun 27 05:03 |
| CrystalMath | it's a good one | Jun 27 05:04 |
| CrystalMath | leave it to fate | Jun 27 05:04 |
| oiaohm | You think how little cold and flu you would need to sell treatment for if global spread of illness was in fact controlled. | Jun 27 05:04 |
| CrystalMath | if you get sick, fight it yourself, or die | Jun 27 05:04 |
| oiaohm | You are talking billions of dollars of income per year called by cold and flu spread that is caused by air travell and the like not having proper disease control. | Jun 27 05:05 |
| oiaohm | It major drug companies. | Jun 27 05:05 |
| oiaohm | It/to | Jun 27 05:05 |
| insmodppa | The huge flu shot industry popped out of nowhere. | Jun 27 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Exactly as a solution to avoid having to maintain proper disease control. | Jun 27 05:06 |
| oiaohm | and to make more money. | Jun 27 05:06 |
| oiaohm | Yes when covid-19 turned it remember it was we will just make another vaccine that will fix the problem again. | Jun 27 05:07 |
| oiaohm | These hacky solutions at some point fail to work right. | Jun 27 05:07 |
| insmodppa | The last time I saw my doctor was years ago and recently when asked if I got my flu shot, they were shocked to find I never got one. Looks like they made it compulsary even for healthy people with functioning immune systems (Why?). | Jun 27 05:10 |
| CrystalMath | i never got a flu shot | Jun 27 05:18 |
| CrystalMath | in my life | Jun 27 05:18 |
| CrystalMath | however, i did get vaccinated for dangerous diseases | Jun 27 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | and after years of thinking | Jun 27 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | took the measles one as well | Jun 27 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | (i was still a kid at the time) | Jun 27 05:19 |
| CrystalMath | but the flu? come on | Jun 27 05:20 |
| oiaohm | Measles is horrible dangerous. Not only is it a risk. It makes your immune system forget everything it basically learnt. Without how forgot full the human immune system is the thing does not need help to forget. | Jun 27 05:23 |
| CrystalMath | well i didn't get measles | Jun 27 05:23 |
| CrystalMath | i got the measles vaccine, MMR | Jun 27 05:23 |
| oiaohm | There are some illness there vaccine is absolutely the right thing. | Jun 27 05:23 |
| oiaohm | there/the | Jun 27 05:23 |
| CrystalMath | but i mean, i don't really care if i die | Jun 27 05:23 |
| CrystalMath | if i die, just chalk it up to fate | Jun 27 05:24 |
| CrystalMath | maybe i didn't want to die back then when i was 13 | Jun 27 05:24 |
| CrystalMath | that was too little | Jun 27 05:24 |
| CrystalMath | now i don't really care | Jun 27 05:24 |
| CrystalMath | i can get AIDS, i won't treat it | Jun 27 05:24 |
| CrystalMath | i'll let it kill it | Jun 27 05:25 |
| CrystalMath | *kill me | Jun 27 05:25 |
| oiaohm | Really its the ass ones that don't kill you. | Jun 27 05:25 |
| CrystalMath | okay i suppose i am little worried about leprosy | Jun 27 05:25 |
| CrystalMath | that one is nasty, but | Jun 27 05:25 |
| oiaohm | Chickenpox virus in older life is shingles and shingles is depression. | Jun 27 05:26 |
| CrystalMath | i did get a vaccine for Mycobacteria | Jun 27 05:26 |
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| CrystalMath | oh, i have VZV | Jun 27 05:26 |
| CrystalMath | the virus, not the vaccine | Jun 27 05:26 |
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| CrystalMath | it's properly installed into my immune system | Jun 27 05:26 |
| CrystalMath | err | Jun 27 05:26 |
| CrystalMath | nervous system | Jun 27 05:26 |
| oiaohm | that would have been one to avoid if you could. | Jun 27 05:26 |
| CrystalMath | being an alphaherpesvirus, it hides in the nervous system | Jun 27 05:26 |
| CrystalMath | others hide in B-cells | Jun 27 05:27 |
| oiaohm | vaccines against those pains in the ass I agree with absolutely. | Jun 27 05:27 |
| CrystalMath | i don't think a VZV vaccine was even available | Jun 27 05:27 |
| CrystalMath | when i was a kid | Jun 27 05:27 |
| oiaohm | and you are going to pay for it now. | Jun 27 05:28 |
| CrystalMath | why? | Jun 27 05:28 |
| CrystalMath | i don't mind having VZV installed in my immune system | Jun 27 05:28 |
| CrystalMath | it's like a DOS TSR (Terminate and Stay Resident) :P | Jun 27 05:29 |
| CrystalMath | dammit, brain not working, i meant nervous system | Jun 27 05:29 |
| oiaohm | Exactly brain not exactly working right and having to be more focused on avoiding depresssion that you would have had to be without it. | Jun 27 05:30 |
| CrystalMath | well i was never exactly cheerful | Jun 27 05:32 |
| CrystalMath | but really VZV changed nothing | Jun 27 05:32 |
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| oiaohm | CrystalMath: Like it or not VZV would have changes things a little. As in even less happy go lucky than where you started. | Jun 27 06:18 |
| CrystalMath | who hasn't had VZV though | Jun 27 06:29 |
| oiaohm | I had vaccine so me. | Jun 27 06:31 |
| CrystalMath | yes but tons of people on the planet had VZV | Jun 27 06:33 |
| CrystalMath | and throughout history | Jun 27 06:33 |
| schestowitz | https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-spread.html | Jun 27 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | How the Virus Won - The New York Times | Jun 27 07:18 | |
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| oiaohm | https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolinehaskins1/protests-tech-company-spying this stuff is why I was like why do we need covid applications at all. | Jun 27 15:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I think PrEP has been disastrously successful. The pharma industry got their new product. | Jun 27 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now that people think they're safe from HIV, they throw caution to the wind and there's been an explosion of everything else, which I'm sure it totally explainable as "Of course people are reading the advice to keep using condoms and taking it to heart, and are totally not fucking random people from Grindr and saying 'I'm on PrEP! No condoms necessary!'". | Jun 27 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So on top of an explosion of the everything else category, which is not good, now we're seeing late night tv ads for lawyers asking if you've had terrible side effects from Truvada. | Jun 27 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People think "Oh God, I hate condoms." but they make all different kinds and chances are you didn't go down the line testing different ones. | Jun 27 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, I read studies about condoms where people self-report doing all kinds of dumb things with them. | Jun 27 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's really all kind of a guess how effective they are, but I'd say if you're not an idiot.....Mid to high 90s as a percentage. | Jun 27 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom, who actually is a nurse, should know better about a lot of things. | Jun 27 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She goes "Well, 95% isn't 100%." I said, well, no it's not, but it's not like everyone has HIV and your chances of getting it without a condom are 100%. | Jun 27 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | About 1-2% of the US population has it, and out of that, your odds are something like 1 in 1,000 of getting it if you pick the wrong one. | Jun 27 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So 95% less risk than the 1 in 1,000 chance of getting it (unprotected) if you pick the 1.6-ish person in 100 to begin with. | Jun 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's actually not all that much danger if you consider it. | Jun 27 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And if it breaks and you're uneasy about that, go on one round of PEP and that's that. | Jun 27 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | PEP isn't extremely profitable for pharma because it's not something people take forever. | Jun 27 19:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Catholic church has led to so many unnecessary deaths from AIDS and so much avoidable poverty from overpopulation in the third world. | Jun 27 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're a terrorist organization. | Jun 27 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People in modern countries are abandoning the Catholic church so they're going after primitive folk who have no mental defenses against bullshit. | Jun 27 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People make fun of the US for being really religious and backwards, but the percentage of the population that isn't religious has gone from like 4-5% in the early 90s (at least self-reporting at the time) to something like 28% now. | Jun 27 19:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's going up, up, up because the older people who believe in this die and the younger people who really don't are the ones talking to polling agents now. | Jun 27 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Coronavirus laying waste to the elderly is not great news for the church. It speeds up what's been happening to them anyway by years maybe, and there's nothing they can really do about it. | Jun 27 19:38 |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/email | Jun 27 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Email | Jun 27 21:16 | |
| schestowitz | lol | Jun 27 21:18 |
| schestowitz | yes, I did move to reading email once a day years ago | Jun 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | wished I had that that FAR sooner | Jun 27 21:19 |
| schestowitz | email can be a waste of time, most of the time (not always, but mostly) | Jun 27 21:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I did bankruptcy by email mostly. | Jun 27 21:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because of the virus. | Jun 27 21:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Much more convenient than meeting with lawyers and filling out paper forms and getting everything in hard copy, and driving to the court. | Jun 27 21:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John turned out to be a lot like the android Ash at the end of Alien. | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I can't lie to you about your chances.......but you have my sympathies.". | Jun 27 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Later, the company execs "We went over the pod inch by inch and didn't find any traces of that thing you described.". | Jun 27 21:36 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Ripley goes, "Good. That's because I blew it out of a goddamned airlock!". | Jun 27 21:36 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +36,026 so far today | Jun 27 23:16 |
| schestowitz | might make it to 40+ again | Jun 27 23:16 |
| schestowitz | i.e. second highest | Jun 27 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53204072 | Jun 27 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coca-Cola suspends social media advertising despite Facebook changes - BBC News | Jun 27 23:17 | |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/EtJojwjbFeIrjfJZeBFblBsm > | Jun 27 23:17 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +40,521 | Jun 27 23:31 |
| schestowitz | a few more hours to go | Jun 27 23:31 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: we suspend buying anything from Coca-Cola too | Jun 27 23:31 |
| schestowitz | Those brands pretend to value ethics | Jun 27 23:31 |
| schestowitz | very convenient charm offensive, but I hope it does help 'kill' FB is not social control media in general | Jun 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | i've just taken a photo of my desk http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/setup-portrait.jpg | Jun 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I think that incarnation will last long, suits me better than anything I tried before | Jun 27 23:32 |
| schestowitz | I can see as much as IRC channels now without having to shift virtual desktops | Jun 27 23:33 |
| schestowitz | LF: +9,585 | Jun 27 23:34 |
| schestowitz | *FL | Jun 27 23:34 |
| schestowitz | TX: +4,408 | Jun 27 23:34 |
| schestowitz | covid loves old flesh | Jun 27 23:34 |
| schestowitz | not sure what this may do to senior citizens in FL | Jun 27 23:34 |
| schestowitz | 1000 can become a million very fast | Jun 27 23:35 |
| schestowitz | R/GOP states score higher for new cases | Jun 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | which I suppose is predicable | Jun 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | even masks have become 'politicised' | Jun 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | as if the choice to cover mouth and nose is dependent upon which corporate political party you support.... SMH | Jun 27 23:36 |
| schestowitz | Puerto Rico tested 13,022 | Jun 27 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and 7,066 came out positive | Jun 27 23:37 |
| schestowitz | hence more than half, but i suppose they only test those who already show symptoms | Jun 27 23:37 |
| schestowitz | 15,577 cases in US military | Jun 27 23:38 |
| schestowitz | 37 dead | Jun 27 23:38 |
| schestowitz | 21,137 in VA | Jun 27 23:39 |
| schestowitz | with 1,580 dead | Jun 27 23:39 |
| schestowitz | +40,656 | Jun 27 23:44 |
| schestowitz | maybe they'll break a record again | Jun 27 23:44 |
| schestowitz | ratings of Orange One flailing | Jun 27 23:45 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Major Components of an Embedded Linux System http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139233 [https://pleroma.site/objects/176d7905-93f4-4fde-9220-c19b29d37ce2] | Jun 27 23:49 | |
| CrystalMath | so this channel is now #covid19 | Jun 27 23:50 |
| CrystalMath | or #hatetrump | Jun 27 23:50 |
| CrystalMath | meanwhile nobody here cares about free software anymore | Jun 27 23:52 |
| CrystalMath | (except me) | Jun 27 23:52 |
| CrystalMath | the only important thing seems to be getting rid of Trump or protecting yourself from the COCO-19 | Jun 27 23:52 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Itinerary, Qt Quick, and GCompris http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139234 [https://pleroma.site/objects/06def4cd-a96c-4b46-b7cb-2da9a6723beb] | Jun 27 23:53 | |
| CrystalMath | can someone tell me though, was this channel always this bad? | Jun 27 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | why isn't anyone speaking up against the widespread use of Zoom? | Jun 27 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | that's non-free software | Jun 27 23:54 |
| CrystalMath | there's so many things to talk about and all we talk about here is Trump and COCO-19 | Jun 27 23:54 |
| MinceR | well, have you brought up any different topics? | Jun 27 23:55 |
| CrystalMath | touché | Jun 27 23:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are fucking dumb. | Jun 27 23:56 |
| CrystalMath | idk, my problem is that i'm extremely frustrated to read the stuff that is talked about here, so maybe i should go somewhere else | Jun 27 23:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not touching Zoom. | Jun 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | we speak out against Zoom | Jun 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | and "COCO" is a big deal | Jun 27 23:56 |
| CrystalMath | COCO, btw, stands for COmmon COld | Jun 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | and in case you didn't notice it impacts every country on this planet, every person too... | Jun 27 23:56 |
| MinceR | i thought it stood for Conan O'Brien | Jun 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | and it's a factor in the rise of this zoom malware | Jun 27 23:56 |
| schestowitz | Chanel | Jun 27 23:57 |
| schestowitz | the techrights (coco) channel | Jun 27 23:57 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Jun 27 23:57 |
| schestowitz | sometimes tech, sometimes common cold ;-) | Jun 27 23:57 |
| schestowitz | Gabrielle Bonheur "Coco" Chanel | Jun 27 23:58 |
| schestowitz | "Gabrielle Bonheur "Coco" Chanel (19 August 1883 – 10 January 1971) was a French fashion designer, businesswoman and Nazi collaborator" | Jun 27 23:58 |
| schestowitz | Like Hugo Boss | Jun 27 23:59 |
| schestowitz | (from Wikipedia) | Jun 27 23:59 |
| CrystalMath | yes i know | Jun 27 23:59 |
| schestowitz | "In 2011, Hal Vaughan published a book about Chanel based on newly declassified documents, revealing that she had collaborated directly with the Nazi intelligence service, the Sicherheitsdienst. One plan in late 1943 was for her to carry an SS peace overture to British Prime Minister Winston Churchill to end the war." | Jun 27 23:59 |
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