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scienteswhat was the conference?Aug 27 02:29
scientesand who cares if there is no female speakers?Aug 27 02:29
scientes(and who cares if there are only female speakers?)Aug 27 02:29
scientesI'm sick are tired of that sort of attitudeAug 27 02:29
scientesit tears society apartAug 27 02:29
scientesit should not be illegal to have a all-male or all-female groupAug 27 02:30
XRevan86scientes: Which conference?Aug 27 02:45
scientesyou guys seem to be talking about a conferenceAug 27 02:46
scientesin which you asked RMS some questionAug 27 02:46
scientesI could really follow the scrollbackAug 27 02:46
XRevan86scientes: TechTrainAug 27 03:01
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19080836Aug 27 07:27
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XRevan86a1batross: hiAug 27 09:45
XRevan86MinceR: "https://ircz.de/p/19080759" – could be intentional.Aug 27 09:46
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scientes> Pride and Prejudice. Why do we think we are smart? Aug 27 12:41
scienteshehe, showing off his knowledge of EnglishAug 27 12:41
scientes> Does Microsoft have a future in Russia, or why we should stop hatingAug 27 12:42
scienteshehe, Microsoft gives version of this talk at almost every conference in existanceAug 27 12:42
scientesfor like the last 10 yearsAug 27 12:42
XRevan86"love us!"Aug 27 12:44
scientesto prevent things like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXOQZ8MRvB4Aug 27 12:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steve Ballmer Gets Egged - YouTubeAug 27 12:45
XRevan86scientes: What does the guy say?Aug 27 12:46
scientesIIRC he was mad at Microsoft extracting so much money from HungaryAug 27 12:46
scientesyou mean in the talk?Aug 27 12:47
XRevan86scientes: The guy in the white shirt. He says something, but I can barely make it out.Aug 27 12:47
scientesWell, Microsoft does employee lots of academics, and thus basically functions as a research university, and has thus had accomplishments in formally proven crypto and theorum solversAug 27 12:48
scientesoh, I don't feel like watching that video againAug 27 12:48
scientesthat comes from my days in this channel years agoAug 27 12:48
scientesoh, Russian has this sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXOQZ8MRvB4Aug 27 12:50
scientesehhh деньAug 27 12:50
scientesit really annoys me that you can't copy-paste from google translateAug 27 12:50
scientesi think its because they are drawing the fonts in javascript or somethingAug 27 12:50
scientesденьAug 27 12:51
scientesheh, yandex translate is fineAug 27 12:51
scientesperhaps they wrote it before web fontsAug 27 12:51
XRevan86scientes: ĎeňAug 27 12:51
scientesso that's what ь doesAug 27 12:51
scientesbut that last sound is unfamiliarAug 27 12:52
XRevan86scientes: It's a ñAug 27 12:52
scientesand very stereotypical Russian too :)Aug 27 12:52
scientesoh reallyAug 27 12:52
XRevan86scientes: "ь" is to slender a consonant without a leading vowel.Aug 27 12:52
XRevan86Historically a slendering schwa, when Slavic languages didn't have consonant clusters.Aug 27 12:53
scientes>  didn't have consonant clusters.Aug 27 12:53
scientesoh wow, so English was more gutteralAug 27 12:53
scientesthose consonant clusters are hardAug 27 12:54
scientes(until you know them of course)Aug 27 12:54
XRevan86scientes: Usually they're trimmed verbally.Aug 27 12:54
scientesHave you seen "O, Brother, Where Art Thou?"Aug 27 12:55
scientesthat's a great movieAug 27 12:55
scientesjust watched it again last nightAug 27 12:55
XRevan86scientes: The first time I hear about it %)Aug 27 12:55
scientesAdaptation of the OdysseyAug 27 12:56
scientesbut a really good oneAug 27 12:56
scientesXRevan86, I have heardAug 27 12:57
XRevan86scientes: It's not uncommon to hear "pasiba" instead of "spasibo"Aug 27 12:57
scientesthat's just lazinessAug 27 12:57
scientesThe Argentina accent of Spanish is quite differentAug 27 12:58
XRevan86I'm trying to think of a more complex example, but it'll take time %)Aug 27 12:58
scientesIt is easier when it isn't your native languageAug 27 12:59
XRevan86S'ejčas → sčas → šasAug 27 13:00
scienteshat language?Aug 27 13:01
XRevan86щ is historically šč, now it's slender šAug 27 13:01
scientesdespite be being horrible at Cyrillic, I def. prefer Russian in cyrillic (or IPA for clarity I guess)Aug 27 13:01
XRevan86pretty much the same idea, that combination is being commonly simplified.Aug 27 13:01
scientescause latin or german english and spanish are totally differentAug 27 13:02
XRevan86Сейчас → счас → щас (шяс)Aug 27 13:02
scientesand you have to know the contextAug 27 13:02
XRevan86I based that transliteration on the Czech alphabetAug 27 13:02
scientesyeah it looks polish to meAug 27 13:02
scientes(not knowing any polish)Aug 27 13:03
XRevan86Except they don't have a " S' " letter, but I think that's fair enough to make a digraph by analogy with ť and stuff.Aug 27 13:03
*scientes thinks learning Russian will help with orthographic reasoningAug 27 13:04
XRevan86In Polish instead of "č" I'd have to use ć or czAug 27 13:04
scientesor resuming my arabic studiesAug 27 13:04
scienteswhich never got farAug 27 13:04
scientesbut even the little I did I could realize it was easier than englishAug 27 13:04
XRevan86and ś or sz instead of šAug 27 13:04
XRevan86(slender and broad respectively; cool that they have that distinction by the way)Aug 27 13:04
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scientesyeah that one I kinda followAug 27 13:05
scienteseven with the tiny exposure to Polish (I don't think any czech exposure)Aug 27 13:05
scientesBóg się rodziAug 27 13:05
XRevan86I think to represent Щ in a historically accurate I need to spell it like szczAug 27 13:05
XRevan86* historically accurate wayAug 27 13:06
XRevan86(ru) щука → (pl) szczupakAug 27 13:06
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XRevan86not 1 to 1…Aug 27 13:07
XRevan86щелина → szczelinaAug 27 13:07
scientesThere were some polish tourists here tooAug 27 13:07
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Ru-щука.ogg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Pl-szczupak.oggAug 27 13:08
XRevan86scientes: ThereAug 27 13:08
scientesoh interestingAug 27 13:09
XRevan86scientes: Emphasis on the first consonant clusterAug 27 13:09
scientesyeah the polish actually pronounce itAug 27 13:09
XRevan86in Russian there isn't any, comtemporarilyAug 27 13:09
XRevan86contemporarilyAug 27 13:09
scientesthe "t" against the teeth thereAug 27 13:09
scientesstew-packAug 27 13:09
XRevan86shchupakAug 27 13:10
scientesyeahAug 27 13:10
scientesbut with a tAug 27 13:10
scientesshchtupakAug 27 13:10
XRevan86scientes: No, I don't hear that…Aug 27 13:10
scientesits the tsu soundAug 27 13:10
scienteswhich is in chineseAug 27 13:10
scientesor japaneeseAug 27 13:10
scienteswith a s beforeAug 27 13:11
XRevan86scientes: č and ť are close, maybe that's why you hear itAug 27 13:11
scientesbut the polish spelling is goodAug 27 13:11
scientesahh yes, i think you are rightAug 27 13:11
scientesi think it is hungarian that lacks a v в sound.Aug 27 13:12
scientesAnd I went to a wedding once where the bridge practiced saying "vow" for weeks beforehandAug 27 13:12
scientes*beideAug 27 13:12
XRevan86scientes: The alphabet has itAug 27 13:12
scienteshmm, it was one of those eastern european languagesAug 27 13:12
scientesthere are so many of themAug 27 13:13
XRevan86scientes: Maybe FinnishAug 27 13:13
XRevan86w:Finnish orthography: "Typically pronounced as approximant [ʋ] rather than fricative [v]."Aug 27 13:13
scienteslike in "win"?Aug 27 13:14
XRevan86So if they were trying not to say "wow", then that checks outAug 27 13:14
scientesyeah pretty muchAug 27 13:14
scienteslol, its in the video game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1yD3_EL90Y Bóg się rodziAug 27 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Civilization V OST | Casimir Peace Theme | Bóg się rodzi - YouTubeAug 27 13:15
XRevan86Бог, родись?Aug 27 13:17
scientesare you just transliterating?Aug 27 13:17
XRevan86The birth of Jesus or something?Aug 27 13:17
scientesbasicallyAug 27 13:18
scientesits the biggest Polish christmas carolAug 27 13:18
XRevan86scientes: Almost, I also have to move "się" after "rodzi"Aug 27 13:18
scientesMy orchestra director was Polish so we played itAug 27 13:18
XRevan86rodzi-się → роди-ся → родисьAug 27 13:19
XRevan86+ knowing that ď shifted to dz in PolishAug 27 13:19
scientesoh wowAug 27 13:19
scientesI thought the languages were more distinct than thatAug 27 13:20
XRevan86rodzi-się → родзи-сѧ → роди-ся → родисьAug 27 13:20
scientesbut I guess they are both slavic languagesAug 27 13:21
XRevan86scientes: I'm not sure I would've picked that in verbal communication.Aug 27 13:22
XRevan86"się" doesn't sound much like "s'a", more like "s'en"Aug 27 13:22
scienteswell, word choice is the first thing that goes in divergent languagesAug 27 13:23
scienteseven British and American english have quite a few differences thereAug 27 13:23
XRevan86And a little more background: "сѧ" is a historical word for selfAug 27 13:24
XRevan86in an accusative formAug 27 13:24
XRevan86So it's a reflective pronoun.Aug 27 13:25
XRevan86In родись and się rodziAug 27 13:25
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scientesthis is a totally different topic, but it kinda ticks me that the US refuses to use the word Persian because they hate Iran so muchAug 27 13:26
XRevan86but for some reason Polish and Russian differ in where to put itAug 27 13:26
scientesand instead say "farsi"Aug 27 13:26
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XRevan86scientes: Seems to be mostly the same thing %)Aug 27 13:28
scientesyes, but they are trying to remove the associationAug 27 13:29
scientesanyways, I just used "Persian" here yesterday and was understoodAug 27 13:29
scienteshave you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/user/PronunciationManual/videosAug 27 13:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PronunciationManual - YouTubeAug 27 13:29
XRevan86Prince of FarsiaAug 27 13:30
scientesso apparently there is an "Israel", but no "Persia"Aug 27 13:31
scientesthat's the jist of itAug 27 13:31
XRevan86scientes: "How to Pronounce Dalek"Aug 27 13:32
XRevan86That's not how I pronounce "Dalek", or how daleks pronounce "Dalek" %)Aug 27 13:33
XRevan86scientes: This is madAug 27 13:33
XRevan86scientes: What is the purpose of this channel? %)Aug 27 13:34
scienteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJRyeUDfthkAug 27 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Pronounce Onomatopoeia - YouTubeAug 27 13:34
scientesXRevan86, when you have spent way to much of your time memorizing these things, its pretty funnyAug 27 13:35
scientesthis is why i remembered it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afbAPAEMU1EAug 27 13:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Pronounce Iranian with a Persian Accent - YouTubeAug 27 13:36
XRevan86scientes: hehAug 27 13:37
XRevan86scientes: They should do "Slovakia with a slovakian accent"Aug 27 13:39
XRevan86Slovakia is Slovenska republika and Slovenia is Republika SlovenijaAug 27 13:41
XRevan86Either way a словѧнская republic %)Aug 27 13:42
XRevan86* словѣнскаяAug 27 13:42
XRevan86TODO: Figure out how it got to be "славянская" in Russian. Old Church Slavonic influence?Aug 27 13:43
scientesMy experience with Israeli tourists is that too many of them know neither English nor ArabicAug 27 13:45
scienteswhich leads me to compare them to the crusaders that had a colony there temporarilyAug 27 13:45
scientesand by Arabic accounts were pretty isolatedAug 27 13:45
XRevan86scientes: How many of them know Russian? :)Aug 27 13:45
scientesprobably not as many that can afford to travelAug 27 13:46
scientesbut I hear than phone prompts are usually Hebrew or Russian, with no Arabic or English optionsAug 27 13:46
scientescause Israel now has lots of the second generationAug 27 13:46
scientesthat doesn't know the English, French, and German (and Yiddish) that their parents didAug 27 13:47
scientesand I guess some spanish too, from ArgentinaAug 27 13:47
scientesI met a Russian-Israeli in Costa RicaAug 27 13:48
scientesPersians have very high levels of Arabic knowledgeAug 27 13:51
scientesbecause of religionAug 27 13:51
XRevan86хлѣбъ in Bulgarian turned into хляб, but for ѣ in OCS Wikipedia gives a different sound.Aug 27 13:51
XRevan86слов- → слав- is explained well by OCS influence as it's similiar to ростение → растение, etc.Aug 27 13:52
scientesI was just listening to a story that this hitch-hiker couldn't communicate to some pashtuns, but I just don't believe that the pashtuns don't know basic arabic or persianAug 27 13:55
scientesor english or courseAug 27 13:56
scientes" In addition to their native tongue, many Pashtuns are fluent in Urdu, Dari, and English. "Aug 27 13:56
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XRevan86> Significantly, from the earliest texts, there was considerable confusion between the yat and the Cyrillic iotified a ⟨ꙗ⟩. One explanation is that the dialect of Thessaloniki (on which the Old Church Slavonic literary language was based), and other South Slavic dialects shifted from /ě/ to /ja/ independently from the Northern and Western branches.Aug 27 14:18
XRevan86hmm…Aug 27 14:18
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psydroidI've been doing the Arabic course on Duolingo lately and one of the reasons why I've found it pretty easy so far is that I recognise a lot of words from Persian and Hindi/UrduAug 27 18:17
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MinceR(also comments) https://imgur.com/gallery/yCKz08b   ( https://i.imgur.com/Sq0m6OK.jpg )Aug 27 18:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The One. The Saviour. Neil. - Album on ImgurAug 27 18:59
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MinceR(audio:important) https://imgur.com/gallery/awMyxdS   ( https://i.imgur.com/07RpcHS.mp4 )Aug 27 19:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A bundle of wind chimes - Album on ImgurAug 27 19:13
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/27/0f615c23b09fc68b.jpgAug 27 19:19
scientesthose protests in hong kong were orchestrated from abroadAug 27 19:20
scientespsydroid, i find duolingo horrible, the main app partAug 27 19:20
scientesthe stories part and the podcast are greatAug 27 19:20
scientesotherwise I use pimsleurs which is excellent, but they remade the spanish one and the new one is HORRIBLE, so use the old oneAug 27 19:21
scientesI guess that now that Paul Pimsleur is dead they can only produce crapAug 27 19:21
scientespimsleurs arabic even was able to teach readingAug 27 19:22
scienteseven though it is focused on listening and speaking and pronounciationAug 27 19:22
psydroidscientes, I've been using it to review things or get a start before switching over to other resources such as the many textbooks I have collected over the years. For some languages it can be a bit more useful, but I think many people take it far too seriously.Aug 27 19:25
psydroidI used Pimsleur for getting familiar with Persian, it was useful for getting an idea of the languageAug 27 19:26
XRevan86https://youtu.be/BByig02vJWMAug 27 19:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arabic Influence on Modern Hebrew!! - YouTubeAug 27 19:40
scientespsydroid, I am just starting to get functional in spanish, and the pimsleurs has been invaluable. It covers all of the basic grammer in a very short amount of time, and gives you the tools to start talking to patient peopleAug 27 19:43
scientesoh course I am a native english speaker however, and pimsleurs only does english->other and other->englishAug 27 19:44
scientesI get the feeling that with this plan of building a railroad in Cuba and stuff that the Russians are still acting like soviets, and they are missing a great oppurtunity for US-style diplomacy. There are all these unemployeed Venezuelan engineers---I run into them selling candy on busesAug 27 19:45
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/27/685afdfcdf3d224e.mp4Aug 27 19:54
psydroidI consider all these resources useful, but when it comes to Romance languages such as Spanish I compare things to how they were in Latin. And when it comes to Slavic languages my reference is usually Sanskrit, going through English isn't really what I tend to do.Aug 27 19:55
psydroidscientes, Pimsleur is great for that, I agree. It's what is usually missing in the school system, although language education in the Netherlands is pretty good compared to what it's like in other countriesAug 27 20:02
scientesmy school had a good French teacher, but alas, I did not take French (should have)Aug 27 20:03
scientesso Spanish is really my first foreign languageAug 27 20:03
scienteson a related note, do have any book recommendations on the Dutch golden age?Aug 27 20:05
scientesI was suggested this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521604605/Aug 27 20:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | NO TITLEAug 27 20:05
scientesand this one: https://www.amazon.com/Embarrassment-Riches-Interpretation-Culture-Golden/dp/0679781242/ref=pd_ybh_a_10?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ARGKCF5G9JSFT5E1EVW0Aug 27 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | NO TITLEAug 27 20:06
psydroidI don't really have any as I haven't been reading much about Dutch history after finishing high schoolAug 27 20:07
scientesyeah here I am trying to read the high school text book on Peru's historyAug 27 20:07
scientesIt has so many more details about the ice ages and the natives than US text books, which are horrible and don't even mention New AmsterdamAug 27 20:10
scientesor New SwedenAug 27 20:10
psydroidfor the past decade I have been reading more about West and South Asia and Eastern Europe, which more or less coincides with my interest in the languages and cultures of those regionsAug 27 20:10
scienteswhen I growing up there was a old Dutch homesteader who first went to the Dakotas, and then WashingtonAug 27 20:14
scienteshe loved farmingAug 27 20:15
scienteshe even rented neighbors plots and farmed them even though he hardly broke evenAug 27 20:15
scienteshe would talk of going to the nearest urban area as if it was a major trip, even though I would go every week, and later most people went every dayAug 27 20:18
psydroidwhat you are saying about native US and UK text books also rings true with me, so while I do have a lot of books in English, I also try to collect them in other languages. I have quite a sizeable collection of Polish books, but not really had the time to read them.Aug 27 20:18
psydroidand yes, I realise I should have more in Dutch considering I have spent most of my life living hereAug 27 20:18
psydroidI grew up on the countryside and didn't go to cities very oftenAug 27 20:19
scientesthe Anglos don't like the "middle ages" because England was then a back-waterAug 27 20:19
scientesUtopia was written in Latin because English wasn't stable enoughAug 27 20:20
psydroidwhen I was in my last few years of high school, I borrowed books from the school library and the local municipal librariesAug 27 20:23
psydroidwhich most people never read, so I could keep them for months at a timeAug 27 20:24
scientesnot quite sure about New Sweden, but New Amsterdam was won by an important war between Britian and DutchAug 27 20:24
scientesthe "protest wind IIRC"Aug 27 20:24
scientes*protestantAug 27 20:24
psydroidamong those was a book with stories in Old English, which I found interesting because it looked more like Dutch than Modern English doesAug 27 20:25
scientespsydroid, this was really good https://www.amazon.com/Two-Arabic-Travel-Books-Literature/dp/1479803502Aug 27 20:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.amazon.com | NO TITLEAug 27 20:25
scientesand there was also an interest account of the crusaders in Arabic that I read (translated to English)Aug 27 20:25
scienteswell, its really what you are interested in, which seems to be languageAug 27 20:27
scientesI was interested in the Dutch because once I got a picture of England in the 18th century which was really interesting, it seemed natural to learn about Dutch in the 17thAug 27 20:27
psydroidI have many interests such as language, history, science, technology, music etc. but what bothers me a bit is that I don't really excel in anythingAug 27 20:29
scientesdo you play any instruments?Aug 27 20:29
psydroidonly the electric guitar a bit, but I haven't played in almost a decadeAug 27 20:30
scientesnow that I am traveling I miss playing the celloAug 27 20:31
psydroidI have had too much going on in my life to spend much any time playingAug 27 20:31
scientesI gave up an opportunity to play the solo part of a concerto, but I really am not good enough for thatAug 27 20:31
scientesby starting my travelsAug 27 20:32
psydroidI can understand that, especially considering you play at an advanced levelAug 27 20:32
scienteswell, only one movementAug 27 20:32
scientesbut stillAug 27 20:32
scientesintermediate levelAug 27 20:33
scienteswhen i am around professional musicians I am quite terribleAug 27 20:33
scientesbut that is mostly because I didn't play for like 10 yearsAug 27 20:34
psydroidare you considering playing again, if you move somewhere you can truly settle for some time?Aug 27 20:36
psydroidare you considering playing again, if you move somewhere you can truly settle for some time?Aug 27 20:36
scientesyes, I really want to play againAug 27 20:37
scientesin a community orchestraAug 27 20:37
scientesI almost rented a cello in LimaAug 27 20:37
scientesbut am glad I didn'tAug 27 20:37
scientesand then these guys have such insane technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbwAd5gkMMAug 27 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-2CELLOS - Hysteria [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTubeAug 27 20:40
psydroidI know them, but let me seeAug 27 20:40
scientesthose octaves are so difficultAug 27 20:40
scienteswell, not quiteAug 27 20:41
scientesbut these guys made me look bad :)Aug 27 20:41
psydroid:)Aug 27 20:41
XRevan86https://ain.ua/2018/04/11/vasha-strana-pod-sankciyami/Aug 27 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Facebook заблокировал сбор средств на операцию для 14-летней украинки из-за санкций США | AIN.UAAug 27 20:42
scienteslike here is a more technical piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP4NzTUmIt4Aug 27 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HAUSER - Hungarian Rhapsody Op. 68 (LIVE) - YouTubeAug 27 20:42
XRevan86Whoa, this is darn insaneAug 27 20:42
scientesno here with a full orchestra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKrAS5KBirEAug 27 20:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-HAUSER - Hungarian Rhapsody - YouTubeAug 27 20:42
XRevan86Facebook blocked a fundraiser because the money was intended to go to a "sanctioned" country, i.e. Ukraine.Aug 27 20:43
scientesXRevan86, that isn't really suprisingAug 27 20:43
scientesits stupid on the side of the US, but that is going on accross the board right nowAug 27 20:43
XRevan86Apparently "Crimea is a part of Ukraine" and "Crimea is under sanctions" turned into "Ukraine is under sanctions"Aug 27 20:44
MinceRlolAug 27 20:44
scientesXRevan86, what is more suprising is that the funcraiser wasn't a CIA thing, like the Venezuela "fundraisers" I've seen in my travelsAug 27 20:44
XRevan86scientes: Ukraine!!!Aug 27 20:44
scientesohhhhhh I see, they made  a mistakeAug 27 20:44
scientesI found medicines that were probably being asset stripped from a hospital from Ukraine on eBayAug 27 20:45
scientesand they also sold all of the goldAug 27 20:45
scientesall that is left is to sell the dirtAug 27 20:45
---MinceR gives voice to a1batrossAug 27 21:14
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/12/41a59b3a6c5d60d4.jpgAug 27 21:56
<--Firre has quit (Quit: lolmoi)Aug 27 22:13
schestowitzMinceR: backAug 27 22:17
schestowitzWhile away I noticed it's not easy to get voice hereAug 27 22:17
schestowitzI'll try to help out giving voice to lurkersAug 27 22:17
MinceR:)Aug 27 22:19
MinceRi have a safeguard in place in case i'm away for a longer periodAug 27 22:19
schestowitzI tried talking in this channel from Rianne's laptopAug 27 22:22
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MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/08/12/53b5a4e15adc7b42.jpgAug 27 22:41
schestowitz[19:43] <MinceR> schestowitz: sorry, i was on holiday and couldn't ssh into my home server (i don't know yet)Aug 27 22:55
schestowitzno worriesAug 27 22:55
schestowitzI think my scrrollback was set OK, I've just caught upAug 27 22:55
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Patches and Linux Slowdown http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127418 [https://pleroma.site/objects/870adb01-324a-4cae-b78d-787a38bcc845]Aug 27 23:21
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127417 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f7a0bc61-8754-43be-85ee-eb95f2366d68]Aug 27 23:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Google touts managed Linux, gets cosy with #Dell in Chromebook Enterprise push http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127416 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8d4ac026-ac80-4fd3-a08b-3de6726e31b4]Aug 27 23:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DeepMind details OpenSpiel, a collection of AI training tools for video games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127415 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1c2fbcba-3065-422e-b377-ad71c6b21ce9]Aug 27 23:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4 best Microsoft Windows alternative operating systems http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127414 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0de2bf4c-141d-4cdd-b1bd-01e0429b7c11]Aug 27 23:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 20-Way Linux Graphics Card Comparison For Total War: Three Kingdoms http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127413 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3ec46a47-e759-44c2-8fd4-9ff6fdf8cd87]Aug 27 23:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi 4 and Raspbian: Two months in, here's what I've learned so far http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127412 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e38611ba-074f-41d6-981c-c5a278726636]Aug 27 23:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Someone Forked GIMP into Glimpse Because Gimp is an Offensive Word http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127411 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9da77b2b-89fe-4354-96a8-9d1e152ed0e2]Aug 27 23:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 5 Best File Manager Apps for Android TV http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127410 [https://pleroma.site/objects/668111c4-1e56-4ab0-9659-0fd2aee19744]Aug 27 23:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127409 [https://pleroma.site/objects/769c835b-edf7-45a1-97ac-b3f541e98044]Aug 27 23:33
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Ghostwriter is an open source markdown editor with a polished interface http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127408 [https://pleroma.site/objects/285f83b8-2437-49f3-a75c-9f9d8491a50d]Aug 27 23:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Banana Pi BPI-R64 Linux Router Board Launched for $68 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127407 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e812e4f7-dbf7-4fc3-bd4a-6a80e65c4734]Aug 27 23:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: man-db 2.8.7 and status of WebKitGTK in Debian http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127406 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2bdf035c-ec6e-4e09-a164-a15c861bd173]Aug 27 23:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Software: Webmin, Bookworm, Glimpse http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127405 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7c3b3540-dbbe-4bbb-baaf-2fd65599846d]Aug 27 23:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Linux 5.3, Graphics and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127404 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3963ca6a-2fde-4a55-a5dc-15e35c10fbdc]Aug 27 23:42
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE and GNOME GSoC Reports http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127403 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e39b8d32-bfe8-41ea-806a-4e72dd4cf36f]Aug 27 23:48
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127401 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4aed2809-0381-4942-89f6-999cbe84d666]Aug 27 23:49
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora: rpminspect, Fedora Program Managemen and how RPM packages are made http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127400 [https://pleroma.site/objects/98b58ca0-5fa5-4e76-a94b-5080d8d411ba]Aug 27 23:51
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: RaspEX Project Brings Ubuntu 19.10 "Eoan Ermine" with LXDE to the Raspberry Pi 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127399 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ec5d6dc2-0341-4c28-875a-a15d4a7ab6cc]Aug 27 23:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS Makes It Easier to Patch the Linux Kernel without Rebooting http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127398 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c1cd3bce-b9ee-4c89-b29b-6e9c44326704]Aug 27 23:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Allwinner -based Pico-ITX SBCs launch on Kickstarter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127397 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9ae84d9-0426-4de4-a41d-17e69e1e4c04]Aug 27 23:57
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Plasma desktop with global menu, app title and panel buttons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127396 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4471d384-8d84-4414-82a2-0f9c7746c238]Aug 27 23:59
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