●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, September 27, 2021 ●● ● Sep 27 [00:00] techrights-news Back doors without user intervention a possibility too (or rather, using back doors to gain remote control) https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/volkswagen-introduces-over-the-air-updates-for-all-id-models/ see http://techrights.org/2021/07/03/proprietary-software-inside-cars/ [00:00] DaemonFC I suppose after this recovery drive is done I'll shut down as many programs as possible (including the VPN software) and start the BIOS update. [00:01] DaemonFC These were never very safe, but in DOS at least there was less stuff that could interfere or crash behind the scenes. [00:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.85 swarm size (avg): 257.29 [00:01] techrights-news Another example of grotesque conflict of interest by #racism IBM. This 'article' is about IBM and is also sponsored by IBM. #corruptMedia https://www.itjungle.com/2021/09/20/value-stream-management-bringing-lean-manufacturing-techniques-to-ibm-i-development/ [00:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itjungle.com | Value Stream Management: Bringing Lean Manufacturing Techniques To IBM i Development - IT Jungle [00:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 29.85 swarm size (avg): 257.29 [00:01] DaemonFC I suppose I should have given the USB 3 drive to Windows Recovery. [00:02] DaemonFC It needs it. The process of making a USB 2 stick or recovering from it takes ages. [00:03] DaemonFC Well, I won't miss that. [00:03] techrights-news #ibm #racism examples http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Racism [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [00:03] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/777107.jpg [00:03] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, There was a folder on the recovery drive called "Tixati Incomplete" because I opened Tixati briefly to see if I had anything going to the hard drive. [00:03] activelow microsoft dropped DOS with win2k/xp; and what irritated me with GNU/Linux from the beginning always had been their focus on X11/GUI stuff [00:03] DaemonFC And Windows gave the drive letter to the thumbdrive. [00:03] techrights-news US Empire: always thinking about WAR WAR WAR https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/14/us_air_force_project_kaiju/ [00:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | US Air Force puts Godzilla in charge of autonomous warfare effort with Project Kaiju The Register [00:04] DaemonFC Drive letters being assigned randomly. [00:04] DaemonFC Always fun. [00:04] activelow DOS always was annoyint, however the moment when Microsoft enforced Windows since then it went wrong irriversibly [00:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Called Windows a really terrible rolling release. [00:04] activelow because, with DOS at least they had an argument, it fit onto a floppy disk [00:04] techrights-news Two of Americas Leading Historians Look at the Nations Founding Once Again to Understand It in All Its Complexity - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/books/review/the-cause-joseph-j-ellis-power-liberty-gordon-s-wood.html #nytimes = Wall Street agenda [00:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Two of Americas Leading Historians Look at the Nations Founding Once Again to Understand It in All Its Complexity - The New York Times [00:05] activelow WinXP was the final stroke, for both consumers and server systems [00:05] MinceR drive letters were a bad idea to begin with [00:05] schestowitz [00:04] schestowitz-TR, Called Windows a really terrible rolling release. [00:05] schestowitz true [00:05] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Get_the_Facts_(Linux) [00:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Criticism of Linux - Wikipedia [00:06] DaemonFC schestowitz, Poisoning Wikipedia. [00:06] XRevan86 MinceR: The IRC network of Theseus [00:06] DaemonFC Microsoft Loves Linux [00:06] *inky (~inky@5.77.132.34) has joined #techrights [00:06] techrights-news How to waste human time and lower productivity (while excluding blind people too because corporations don't care about them) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/777107.jpg [00:06] DaemonFC "Citing an internal Intel study that tracked kernel releases, Bottomley said Linux performance had dropped about two percentage points at every release, for a cumulative drop of about 12 percent over the last ten releases. "Is this a problem?" he asked. -We're getting bloated and huge. Yes, it's a problem ... Uh, I'd love to say we have a plan ... I mean, sometimes it's a bit sad that we are definitely not the streamlined, small, [00:06] DaemonFC hyper-efficient kernel that I envisioned 15 years ago ... The kernel is huge and bloated, and our icache footprint is scary. I mean, there is no question about that. And whenever we add a new feature, it only gets worse.[9][10][11]" [00:06] activelow and GNU/Linux is heading into the same direction nowadays, making their systems totally unappealing to me [00:07] DaemonFC Debian 11 was, overall 8-11% faster than Debian 10 in a geometric mean of tests. [00:07] activelow enforcing systemd, GUIs, UEFI and a shitload of other things, since then GNU/Linux doesn't fit onto a floppy anymore either [00:07] DaemonFC This comment is from a long time ago, and in light of everything since Vista, including Windows 11 making 3 year old computers unable to run their latest release, I'd say hardly worthy of including on Wikipedia. [00:07] activelow while ago i grabbed firmware-blobs shipped with Linux kernel (labeled GPL)... it was hundreds of Megs of blobs included [00:08] techrights-news Media writing #china just as clickbait. These pacts aren't new and they don't mention China. https://www.theregister.com/2021/09/16/aukus_defence_pact [00:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | This is AUKUS for China US, UK, Australia reveal defence tech-sharing pact The Register [00:08] DaemonFC "Critics of Linux on the desktop have frequently argued that a lack of top-selling video games on the platform holds adoption back. For instance, as of September 2015, the Steam gaming service has 1,500 games available on Linux, compared to 2,323 games for Mac and 6,500 Windows games.[16][17][18] [00:08] DaemonFC " [00:08] activelow because, without those users couldn't spawn the GUI on top of proprietary malicious GPU which X11 depends upon [00:08] DaemonFC Outdated, also Proton can run most Windows games and shim them up to your controllers. [00:08] activelow even the framebuffer console nowadays sits on top of DRM/DRI, which is ... name it as you wish [00:08] DaemonFC "A confusing number of choices of distributions, and desktop environments. [00:08] DaemonFC " [00:09] DaemonFC There's only several distributions worth any real consideration and for desktops, most people use one of three. [00:09] DaemonFC Windows has had alternative shells too, and most were much better written than Explorer. [00:09] techrights-news Later they wonder why so much gun crime and so many suicides. And high stress levels, leading to over-medication and addiction. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/upshot/hospital-bills.html [00:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Their Baby Died in the Hospital. Then Came the $257,000 Hospital Bill. - The New York Times [00:10] DaemonFC In fact, many were written to add back things that Microsoft got rid of to turn desktops into a really shitty tablet. [00:10] activelow meanwhile... i made a decision to revive legacy BSD/Unix pty support for tmux; could confirm already dropebear ssh nicely supports legacy BSD/Unix pty handling; this approach only requires caution to assign specific pseudo-terminal ranges per uid and per process which individually must support legacy PTYs [00:10] DaemonFC "Poor open source support for some hardware, in particular drivers for 3D graphics chips, where manufacturers were unwilling to provide full specifications.[19] As a result, many video cards have both open and closed source drivers, usually with different levels of support. [00:10] DaemonFC " [00:11] DaemonFC The only vendor where this is still that kind of a mess is Nvidia. Don't buy their product. [00:11] DaemonFC "Limited availability of widely used commercial applications (such as Adobe Photoshop and Microsoft Word).[20]" [00:11] techrights-news Democrats [00:12] activelow all i need to do next... implement compat/forkpty-linux.c for tmux, chown some pty device nodes, and be happy with it [00:12] techrights-news German Elections Live Results: Social Democrats Lead https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/09/26/world/german-elections #germany #de #election #eu #europe [00:12] DaemonFC MS Office is slipping and they buy "news" articles that go out of their way to mention you can use Office 365 on Linux, begging people to pay them for it. [00:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | German Elections Live Results: Social Democrats Lead - The New York Times [00:13] DaemonFC schestowitz, NordVPN constantly pops up alerts on Windows and Android asking things like "Is your phone listening to you?" leading to their blog, or trying to sell you a password manager. [00:13] DaemonFC The Linux client doesn't do that. [00:15] techrights-news The voting 'machines' or electronic 'voting' machines have long been a scandal. #bezos -owned media will try to stigmatise all critics of these flawed machines as dangerous cranks. Or bigoted #trump supporters. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/an-elections-supervisor-embraced-conspiracy-theories-officials-say-she-has-become-an-insider-threat/2021/09/26/ee60812e-1a17-11ec-a99a-5fea2b2da34b_story.html [00:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Tina Peters embraced conspiracy theories. Officials say she has become an insider threat. - The Washington Post [00:15] DaemonFC schestowitz, Firefox has actually gotten spammier than Vivaldi. [00:15] DaemonFC And a lot more bloated. [00:15] techrights-news forums [00:15] DaemonFC And about as "Free" [00:16] techrights-news #apple #plannedObsolescence https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/cant-boot-from-cd-r-or-or-dvd-r.2313782/ [00:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.macrumors.com | Cant boot from CD/R or or DVD/R | MacRumors Forums [00:16] DaemonFC With Vivaldi you just delete some default bookmarks and change the search engine and you're done. [00:16] DaemonFC Vivaldi claims they don't make money from Google searches, they just include Google in case you want to use it. [00:17] techrights-news "My body, my choice, the rallying cry of the pro-choice movement, has been adopted by those opposing mask and vaccine mandates. People who are pro-choice have voiced outrage that their phrase is being co-opted, which in turn thrills those on the right who are using it." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/26/opinion/choice-liberty-freedom.html [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Opinion | The Limits of My Body, My Choice - The New York Times [00:18] techrights-news "The alleged snooping on opposition leaders, journalists, activists, dissidents and even members of the judiciary, using a military-grade Israeli spyware meant to combat terrorism should have led to an undying uproar." https://www.freepressjournal.in/analysis/fpj-edit-taming-the-winged-horse-the-pegasus-case-could-open-a-pandoras-box-of-unlawful-practices-and-dark-secrets [00:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | FPJ Edit: Taming the winged horse - the Pegasus case could open a Pandoras box of unlawful practices and dark secrets [00:19] techrights-news Still relevant (NOT ONLY IF YOU SUPPORT GOP): How #Microsoft Squashed Free/Open Source Software in Voting Systems in the United States http://techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/ #Techrights #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2015/06/06/voting-systems/ [00:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How Microsoft Squashed Free/Open Source Software in Voting Systems in the United States | Techrights [00:20] techrights-news "September 26, 2021. Added an email sent to the Debian developers' mailing list about how RMS was labeled ableist because of his opinion on prenatal diagnosis." #rms #defamation #ibm #microsoft #google https://stallmansupport.org/updates.html [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Updates [00:21] techrights-news ableist = #OSI (not #RMS !!) http://techrights.org/2020/10/11/osi-and-rms/ [00:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Open Source Initiative Cannot Lecture People on Manners and Tolerance (and Probably Never Could) | Techrights [00:22] techrights-news "I'm a disabled person and I think that calling rms an ableist for what he wrote about prenatal diagnosis is incorrect. It shows that the author of the letter knows NOTHING about what goes on in groups for civil liberties of disabled people and their families." https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#ableism [00:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallmansupport.org | In Support of Richard Stallman - Testimonies, Letters, Writings, and More [00:22] techrights-news "In my country, Italy, it is the religious bigots who do not want prenatal diagnosis, because it might led to abortion, and they are against that. Catholics also see any suffering and pain as good, as a way to elevate the soul towards God. So, in short, in the letter, rms is being accused for his pro-choice views." https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#ableism [00:24] techrights-news Ironic that #ibm which PROFITED from #eugenics would call #RMS "ableist"... don't go there, IBM. Seems like "IBM and the Holocaust" (20 years ago) was about the present, not the past http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/ibm-denial/ [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Edwin Black Explains Why IBM Was the Worst and the Only One to Obstruct His Research (Into IBMs Dark Past) | Techrights [00:24] MinceR "Ah, the suffering. The sweet, sweet suffering." [00:24] DaemonFC https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Ubuntu/Lenovo-T15-gen2-LTE-Ubuntu/m-p/5100188 [00:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.lenovo.com | Lenovo T15 gen2 LTE Ubuntu-English Community [00:25] techrights-news New Interview With Edwin Black: #IBM Has Never Apologised, Instead It Hid Its Role in Nazi #Germany http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/edwin-black-2021/ #Techrights #GNU #RedHat #BigBlue | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/04/25/edwin-black-2021/ [00:25] MinceR "No tears, please. It's a waste of good suffering." [00:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | New Interview With Edwin Black: IBM Has Never Apologised, Instead It Hid Its Role in Nazi Germany | Techrights [00:25] DaemonFC schestowitz, There's a version of my newer laptop with a LTE modem in it that wouldn't work at all in Debian right now. [00:25] DaemonFC NEEDS Linux 5.13 and new firmware. [00:25] MinceR "Down the dark decades of your pain, this will seem like a memory of Heaven." [00:25] MinceR https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/freddyknifefingers/images/f/fb/Hellraiser-3_in-church.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130402222440 [00:25] DaemonFC So you'd need a custom kernel, which means Secure Boot being off. [00:25] techrights-news "In the haste to label him with whatever woke insult, the writers and signers of the letter ended up siding with the camp that wants to deny women's rights. Many years ago, I read a letter from the father of a mentally disabled person that was described as a 2 year old inside the body of a 40 year old." https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#ableism [00:26] techrights-news "rms has expressed his controversial opinion about a small part of this vast topic, and this is now being used against him by opportunists who want to replace him." #ibm #rms #fsf #gnu https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#ableism [00:27] techrights-news Added TODAY: "To be honest, I believe that the position on abortion has absolutely nothing to do with #debian and free software in general, and people from both opinions should be welcome to partecipate." https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#ableism [00:27] DaemonFC I wonder if Vivaldi would implement bittorrent and irc. [00:27] MinceR "There is a secret song at the center of the world, Joey, and its sound is like razors through flesh." [00:27] techrights-news "To conclude, I must say that as a disabled person I'm getting a bit tired of people who self-diagnose themselves a mental illness and call ableist anyone they disagree with on social media. I think it is insulting towards real disabled people and it diminishes the struggle and makes the term disabled meaningless." https://stallmansupport.org/testimonies-letters-writings-and-more.html#ableism [00:27] DaemonFC Opera did when it was Opera, nnot this Chinese spyware crap. [00:28] DaemonFC I was using Opera as an all in one application at one point. [00:28] techrights-news #Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental http://techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2016/11/06/yuval-levental-on-hiring-program/ [00:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Grossly Exaggerates the Value of its Hiring Program for People with Autism, by Yuval Levental | Techrights [00:31] techrights-news Rights groups demand release of #Congo journalist over terrorism charges https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/rights-groups-demand-release-congo-journalist-over-terrorism-charges-2021-09-24/ [00:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rights groups demand release of Congo journalist over terrorism charges | Reuters [00:32] techrights-news Richard Stallman: "Biden has the power to make Covid-19 vaccine companies cooperate with expanding global production, and should do so promptly." #patents #patent #monopolies #BigPharma https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#26_September_2021_%28Vaccine_apartheid%29 [00:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [00:34] DaemonFC "Ah, the suffering. The sweet, sweet suffering." [00:35] DaemonFC Of trying to get Linux to work on anything that has the Windows 10 logo? [00:35] techrights-news #rms on what #linuxfoundation also does for #microsoft https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#26_September_2021_%28Greenwashing_climate_destruction%29 see http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights [00:35] MinceR DaemonFC: i don't think that's the sort of suffering the christians are focusing on inflicting on as many people as possible [00:35] techrights-news #Satire : Hospital ICUs At Capacity With Reporters Covering Anti-Vaxxers Dying From Covid https://www.theonion.com/hospital-icus-at-capacity-with-reporters-covering-anti-1847716379 #theonion [00:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theonion.com | Hospital ICUs At Capacity With Reporters Covering Anti-Vaxxers Dying From Covid [00:36] MinceR "Welcome to the worst nightmare of all... reality!" [00:36] techrights-news is this intentional? https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Friday_Night_Funkin%27 [00:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-directory.fsf.org | Friday Night Funkin' - Free Software Directory [00:37] techrights-news #HowTo Take a #HowTo Take a Typing Test on Linux With tt https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-take-typing-test-linux-with-tt/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latestTyping Test on Linux With tt https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-take-typing-test-linux-with-tt/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [00:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | How to Take a Typing Test on Linux With tt [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [00:38] MinceR "Which do you find more exhilarating, Trevor, pain or pleasure? Personally, I prefer pain." [00:38] techrights-news #HowTo Take a Typing Test on Linux With tt https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-take-typing-test-linux-with-tt/ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [00:41] techrights-news #microsoft is trying to reinvent #bing as just some sort of lousy collection of photos ('wallpapers'\) because it failed so badly at #search http://techrights.org/wiki/Bing_Reality_Log [00:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bing Reality Log - Techrights [00:42] techrights-news Linux 5.15-rc3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156124 #GPL #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [00:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.15-rc3 | Tux Machines [00:45] DaemonFC MinceR, "You masturbated too much. Here, figure out what Windows did with your Bluetooth and drop $20 in the plate.". [00:46] MinceR lol [00:49] techrights-news #Security and #DRM Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156125 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and DRM Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:49] MinceR DaemonFC: "you masturbated too much in your previous life, so now you'll live in a world ruled by sociopaths and earn a living using Windows!" [00:50] DaemonFC MinceR, About that BIOS release note from LOL NO VO. [00:50] DaemonFC "AOU IC workaround" [00:50] MinceR s/Windows/Microsoft Office on &/ [00:50] DaemonFC They don't like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez either, I guess. [00:50] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156126 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [00:50] MinceR that's AOC, not AOU [00:50] DaemonFC Typos! [00:50] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156127 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:51] DaemonFC The other great thing about LOL NO VO firmware. [00:51] DaemonFC Typos in the setup program. [00:51] MinceR i would have said "AOU IC WA (HW)" instead [00:51] MinceR why halfass it? [00:51] DaemonFC Do you have any idea what the hell they're even talking about? [00:51] MinceR do they? [00:51] DaemonFC Probably not. [00:51] DaemonFC I guess I'll pass it so I can see what's in it. -Nancy Pelosi [00:52] MinceR :> [00:52] MinceR she should pass it on the toilet, then [00:52] techrights-news Links 27/9/2021: Librem 14 Reviewed, Linux 5.15 RC3 is Out http://techrights.org/2021/09/26/linux-5-15-rc3/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/26/linux-5-15-rc3/ [00:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/9/2021: Librem 14 Reviewed, Linux 5.15 RC3 is Out | Techrights [00:55] techrights-news #Ubuntu 21.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=NmpHLcan-TY #video [00:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu 21.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious [00:56] techrights-news #BrodieRobertson Channel Trailer 2021 - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kkP1xzkVO2c #video #invidious [00:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Brodie Robertson Channel Trailer 2021 - Invidious [00:59] techrights-news "The Jan 6 attack investigation has sent subpoenas to some of the [Trump] corrupter's supporters" https://stallman.org/archives/2021-jul-oct.html#26_September_2021_(Trump_loyalists_subpoenaed) [00:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2021: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman ● Sep 27 [01:01] techrights-news an You Run Linux Without a Desktop Environment? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156128 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can You Run Linux Without a Desktop Environment? | Tux Machines [01:04] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:04] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:07] DaemonFC Updating my BIOS. [01:07] DaemonFC Wish me luck [01:07] DaemonFC :) [01:09] XRevan86 DaemonFC: Break a CPU leg [01:09] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:10] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/Der0ad/status/1442211210997477376 today? huh [01:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Giovanni (@Der0ad): "Yes. that thing killed my matterbridge instance today." | nitter [01:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [01:14] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.eu/search?q=#freenode [01:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | nitter [01:15] schestowitz-TR wow, lots from me and tuxmachines [01:15] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.05 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 43.18 swarm size (avg): 257.28 [01:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: Yea, ye consistently care about the topic while no one else does :D [01:18] schestowitz-TR haha [01:18] schestowitz-TR not sure if this is a compliment, but I think not... [01:19] *isak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:19] schestowitz-TR just remember that 1) I used IRC since age 13 or 14 [01:19] schestowitz-TR 2) techrights was on this for 13.5 years and we never missed a beat [01:20] schestowitz-TR when I was on holiday, if there was a disconnection at home, MinceR would send logs and Cubexyz also kept a logger [01:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: Not a complement, a poke to preach moving on :). I know I'm not helping looking for the Empire-related stuff there these days it's just to catch stray cats and let people know. [01:20] schestowitz-TR 3) we spent a ton of time migrtating and writying about all this IRC chaos [01:20] schestowitz-TR so writing a few tweets takes just 0.0001% of those decades of work [01:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's just that the audience is gone. [01:22] XRevan86 freenode being gone is no longer an event, it's a historical fact. [01:23] schestowitz-TR but... [01:23] schestowitz-TR with lessons still to be learned [01:23] schestowitz-TR some were not learned [01:23] schestowitz-TR many hopped on to another Big Network [01:23] schestowitz-TR which probably won't last 23 years like freenode [01:24] MinceR 27 020147 < techrights-news> an You Run Linux Without a Desktop Environment? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156128 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [01:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Can You Run Linux Without a Desktop Environment? | Tux Machines [01:24] MinceR well, is there a desktop environment on my router? :> [01:24] schestowitz-TR web-based? [01:24] MinceR or in my tv-s? [01:25] schestowitz-TR well, they meant gnu linux and desktop [01:25] MinceR well, it does have a web UI [01:25] schestowitz-TR with gui [01:25] schestowitz-TR by DE they mean the shell [01:25] MinceR i mean, obviously you can [01:25] schestowitz-TR unlike window manager [01:25] MinceR you can even run X11 without a DE [01:25] MinceR i'm doing so [01:25] XRevan86 schestowitz: IRC works best as a big network. I wonder if what ye want is mattermost. [01:25] schestowitz-TR yeah, I did tat too [01:25] schestowitz-TR due to lack od RAM [01:25] *MinceR pokes XRevan86 to preach moving on from illibera :> [01:26] schestowitz-TR [01:25] schestowitz: IRC works best as a big network. [01:26] XRevan86 MinceR: I participate in channels there, don't ye know. [01:26] schestowitz-TR I am surprisied that you say that [01:26] schestowitz-TR it depends what you use IRC FOR [01:26] schestowitz-TR some say GitHub is also "best" [01:27] schestowitz-TR because of many "users" [01:27] schestowitz-TR with bad patches and stuff [01:27] schestowitz-TR and Microsoft using "HEY HI" to give your code to other people without a licence [01:27] schestowitz-TR how "COOL" is THAT? [01:27] schestowitz-TR in IRC, big networks invote trolls and time wasters [01:27] schestowitz-TR whom you don't want to be "discoverable" to [01:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: Thing is, when it's not a big network, should it actually be IRC? [01:28] MinceR why not? [01:28] MinceR small networks are fun [01:28] schestowitz-TR what about email [01:28] schestowitz-TR if it's not gmail, is it still fun? [01:28] MinceR indeed [01:28] schestowitz-TR it's annoying to have millions of email domains [01:28] schestowitz-TR right? [01:28] MinceR though i'd rater replace it whenever possible [01:28] MinceR s/ter/ther/ [01:28] MinceR like I2P-Bote or RetroShare or Cables [01:29] schestowitz-TR Facebook wants the Web as just a collection of "walls" [01:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: e-mail is federated, it's built for that. [01:29] schestowitz-TR site.com becomes Facebbook/u/site or whatever [01:29] MinceR paywalls? [01:29] schestowitz-TR and then they herd people like sheep and police comms [01:29] XRevan86 XMPP is federated, it's built for MUCs being on different servers. [01:29] XRevan86 mattermost is not federated but it's built around each organisation having their own server. [01:30] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: email is not channel based [01:30] schestowitz-TR irc is a different modality [01:30] CrystalMath freenode will always exist [01:30] CrystalMath in our hearts [01:30] schestowitz-TR not as much for person-to-person comms, we have email for that already [01:30] MinceR with both XMPP and email, if your domain is lost or the server it points to die, your identity is lost [01:30] MinceR CrystalMath: i hope not, there isn't enough room in my heart for that [01:30] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: you probably lost contact with many friends [01:30] MinceR even a single server wouldn't fit in there [01:30] schestowitz-TR I remember you crying over it [01:31] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: it appears that i have lost touch with some when the joseon thing happened [01:31] CrystalMath they now only use matrix [01:31] CrystalMath so i'll need to set up matrix and write my own bridge for that, too [01:32] XRevan86 MinceR: Keep an account on the same server as the MUC then. [01:32] CrystalMath and then find the same people again [01:32] XRevan86 MinceR: How is that different from self-hosting an IRC server? [01:32] schestowitz-TR freenode was a ticking time bomb for a very long time [01:33] schestowitz-TR I've long wondered how long it would last for [01:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I had to disable some kind of crap called IntelVMD. [01:33] XRevan86 Except that people don't have to connect the XMPP server with the MUC directly, every MUC can be on a different server and it will give 0 overhead to the client. [01:33] DaemonFC Sounds like server shit that ended up on my laptop again, probably for the same reason as last time. [01:33] MinceR XRevan86: IRC networks can operate independently of domain names, and as long as the services db is kept (possibly backed up), all user identities remain accessible even if any of the servers go down or domains are lost [01:33] DaemonFC Debian's installing now. [01:33] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, This ws a gigantic pain in the ass. [01:33] schestowitz-TR cool [01:33] MinceR XRevan86: even if DNS dies, as long as you know the address of one of the servers, you can connect and identify [01:34] DaemonFC And their new firmware makes the one from the Yoga 900 look relatively nice. [01:34] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: well, done only once [01:34] XRevan86 MinceR: Meanwhile, this server is incapable of any of those things. [01:34] DaemonFC Yeah, I just took the default partition layout [01:34] DaemonFC I'm done with btrfs for now. [01:34] MinceR XRevan86: UnrealIRCd+Anope is, though [01:34] DaemonFC It's fine on a secondary laptop where you just say oh yeah I use that. [01:34] DaemonFC I wouldn't trust it though. [01:35] schestowitz-TR fedora used it not for /home [01:35] schestowitz-TR at least initially [01:35] schestowitz-TR versioning makes sense for some types of partitions [01:35] schestowitz-TR depending on content, volatility, i/o [01:36] DaemonFC I turned off Secure Boot. [01:36] DaemonFC Bitlocker panicked. [01:36] MinceR better turn off BitLocker too [01:36] DaemonFC I said go away Bitlocker, I don't have no tree fity! [01:36] MinceR it's security theater anyway [01:36] XRevan86 MinceR: I can identify without DNS working on XMPP by the way. As long as I know what domain it should be. [01:37] DaemonFC I just hope this thing reboots or I'm going to be livvid. [01:37] DaemonFC *livid [01:37] DaemonFC I fucking hate Windows. [01:37] DaemonFC The hardest part about using it is making it go away and leave you alone. [01:38] DaemonFC And it...... [01:38] MinceR XRevan86: and how will other users find you on XMPP then? [01:38] DaemonFC boots. [01:38] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Okay, we have Debian on all of our non-Chromebook PCs, and that too if you count the subsystem. [01:38] XRevan86 MinceR: Ah, ye mean for everyone. Well, then the answer is Onion. [01:39] MinceR :> [01:39] MinceR as long as you can run your own XMPP server as a Tor hidden service [01:39] MinceR i wonder if this hack works with Matrix [01:40] XRevan86 MinceR: People do it all the time with XMPP. [01:40] MinceR kinky. [01:43] schestowitz-TR Bitlocker is back-doored [01:44] schestowitz-TR and yes, it is intentional [01:44] schestowitz-TR when you install Windows, Microsoft owns the PC [01:44] schestowitz-TR When the OEM installs it, same [01:44] schestowitz-TR When you set up encryption on it, Microsoft still controls the thing [01:45] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I can't believe how much negative work it took just to get Windows off the computer. [01:45] schestowitz-TR they won't let you control your PC until you remove all the malware till the very end [01:46] MinceR the bitter end [01:48] MinceR XRevan86: though it does sound like this would require either people on your roster or their XMPP servers to run XMPP through a Tor proxy [01:48] MinceR otherwise onion domains won't resolve [01:50] XRevan86 MinceR: Right. What they do is they allow to connect with Tor but S2S through the proper domains. [01:50] XRevan86 S2S and C2S are completely separate things. [01:52] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, When I'm better rested, a long review of Debian is way overdue. 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It's the worst tool we've ever used." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d0rqcsL#replies #redhat #ibm [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Excited about potentially joining Red Hat - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:55] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:56] techrights-news "No, there have been many ID issues with the Kyndryl spin-off. I have employees whove been erroneously set up with #Kyndryl email and blue pages and had to get it fixed." #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d0NGFpV#replies [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Parts of TSS going to Kyndryl - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:57] techrights-news " #IBM called everyone in to the mothership some years ago. They found it was a great way to get rid of the over 40 crowd who had a house, kids in school, spouse with a local job, family obligations, etc." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d1GiutU#replies [08:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Can Companies Have a Hybrid Workplaceand Keep Things Fair? - post regarding IBM layoffs [08:58] techrights-news Totally crazy: "Australia is an outlier on the question of whether an artificial intelligence system (AI) can be named as an inventor on a patent application." https://frostbrowntodd.com/antipodean-ai-attains-inventorship-implications-of-australias-outlier-status-on-ai-inventors/ [08:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-frostbrowntodd.com | Antipodean AI attains inventorship: Implications of Australias outlier status on AI inventors - Frost Brown Todd | Full-Service Law Firm [08:59] *m___ (~Adium@mfgnrw6khgqhe.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 27 [09:00] techrights-news "I posted a political commentary in January this year, and thought that perhaps would restrain myself to doing so only about once per year. 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[10:39] *m___ (~Adium@mfgnrw6khgqhe.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 27 [11:06] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:08] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [11:22] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@i8gtth78frzk8.irc) has joined #techrights [11:22] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:24] *inky (~inky@46.36.119.235) has joined #techrights [11:25] *inky_ has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [11:33] techrights-news Results from the 2021 #LinuxFoundation Technical Advisory Board election [LWN.net] https://lwn.net/Articles/870403/ #LWN surely can see the elephant in the room (but editor Corbet is controlled by LF): http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/lf-technical-advisory-board/ [11:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Results from the 2021 Linux Foundation Technical Advisory Board election [LWN.net] [11:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Now in the Technical Advisory Board of the Linux Foundation | Techrights [11:51] *techrights_guest|63 (~bf65ae32@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:51] *techrights_guest|63 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) ● Sep 27 [12:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [12:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 51.25 swarm size (avg): 257.34 [12:09] techrights-news GNU Turns 38 (Midday Today or 12:35:59 EST) and #RMS Talks to Polish Medical Professionals This Evening http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/richard-stallman-pl/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/richard-stallman-pl/ [12:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNU Turns 38 (Midday Today or 12:35:59 EST) and RMS Talks to Polish Medical Professionals This Evening | Techrights [12:16] techrights-news A month later the #corporateMedia still (yes, STILL!) celebrates a #linux anniversary and you should expect NOT A SINGLE ARTICLE in the "media" about GNU's anniversary today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154866#comment-31154 [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Happy 30th Birthday, Linux! | Tux Machines [12:19] techrights-news #DeltaAir Lines Calls for Carriers to Share Names of Unruly Passengers - SoylentNews https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/09/25/205254#1181548 #soylentnews | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Delta Air Lines Calls for Carriers to Share Names of Unruly Passengers - SoylentNews [12:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [12:20] techrights-news That the #CIA also conspired to seek the rendition and #extrajudicial #assassination of Julian #Assange is a state-sponsored crime against the press https://mamot.fr/@jz/106999295975220723 [12:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mamot.fr | Jrmie Zimmermann: "CIA's secret plan to kidnap and/or assassinate As" - La Quadrature du Net - Mastodon - Media Fdr [12:24] techrights-news Review: Martine OS 2.0 and Airyx 0.2.2 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156132 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: Martine OS 2.0 and Airyx 0.2.2 | Tux Machines [12:25] techrights-news Why nonprofit organizations choose #freesw http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156133 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why nonprofit organizations choose open source software | Tux Machines [12:26] techrights-news 5 #freesw alternatives to Zoom http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156134 [12:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 open source alternatives to Zoom | Tux Machines [12:27] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156135 #Linux #TuxMachines [12:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [12:31] techrights-news Today GNU turns 38. Last week over 5,000 people watched the RMS talk in Ukraine using our WebM version of it; in a few hours #RMS will speak in Poland and well try to find a stream if one becomes available http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/richard-stallman-pl/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/richard-stallman-pl/ [12:54] *job has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Sep 27 [13:09] techrights-news If anyone is interested, I can start putting together a proposal for a Gemini Usenet newsgroup. comp.infosystems.gopher is still around and active. A new comp.infosystems.gemini could be created in the classic Usenet Big-8 hierarchies but we need people who are willing to say that they would use it before it could be created." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007227.html [13:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup [13:09] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156136 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [13:15] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.23 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 49.58 swarm size (avg): 257.51 [13:15] *job (~job@7cmz8sbkrmt6n.irc) has joined #techrights [13:29] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:44] *CrystalMath (~coderain@7z25pbmvpn47k.irc) has joined #techrights [13:49] *sepsinn has quit (Quit: WeeChat 3.2.1) [13:55] *job has quit (connection closed) [13:59] *job (~job@7cmz8sbkrmt6n.irc) has joined #techrights ● Sep 27 [14:21] gustaf someone is not happy with GNU software :( https://ariadnavigo.xyz/posts/what-the-gnu/ [14:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ariadnavigo.xyz | What the GNU? - Ariadna Vigo [14:23] XRevan86 gustaf: Interesting name :) [14:23] gustaf haha yeah [14:23] gustaf refers to themselves as *ariadna* too .. [14:39] techrights-news #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 26th, 2021 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156137 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: September 26th, 2021 | Tux Machines [14:44] XRevan86 gustaf: [14:45] XRevan86 gustaf: The post doesn't really talk about anything new, it's pretty close to being an opinion piece. [14:45] techrights-news Has Valve kept their promise of 100% compatibility with the Steam Deck? - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=WLgbyv-IfjQ #video [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Has Valve kept their promise of 100% compatibility with the Steam Deck? - Invidious [14:45] techrights-news #HowTo Get Into Computer Game Development In 1982 | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/09/26/how-to-get-into-computer-game-development-in-1982/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [14:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How To Get Into Computer Game Development In 1982 | Hackaday [14:47] techrights-news Card-collecting action RPG with tile-based combat Hero.EXE plans Linux support | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/card-collecting-action-rpg-with-tile-based-combat-heroexe-plans-linux-support #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [14:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Card-collecting action RPG with tile-based combat Hero.EXE plans Linux support | GamingOnLinux [14:48] techrights-news Looks like Valve sent out quite a lot of Steam Deck developer kits | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/looks-like-valve-sent-out-quite-a-lot-of-steam-deck-developer-kits #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #archlinux #games [14:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Looks like Valve sent out quite a lot of Steam Deck developer kits | GamingOnLinux [14:53] gustaf yeah I've read it all before [14:53] gustaf the same old complaings [14:54] gustaf "it's not POSIX" "it's bloated" "Drew DeVault doesn't like it" [14:55] *schestowitz smiles at "Drew DeVault doesn't like it" [14:56] gustaf truly the enfant terrible of open source [14:57] XRevan86 gustaf: "yes" is highly optimised instead of having the simplest implementation possible? This will simply not do. [14:58] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [14:58] gustaf it's not as if `yes` is a mission critical component on most systems [14:58] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:58] techrights-news "One of the BIOS updates along the way was to "enable Ubuntu support"." http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-260921.html#tSep%2026%2020:46:16 [14:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 26, 2021 [14:59] techrights-news "meanwhile, i am trying to support legacy BSD/Unix pty with tmux on linux" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-260921.html#tSep%2026%2021:32:48 #bsd #unix #gnu #linux [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, September 26, 2021 ● Sep 27 [15:02] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156139 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [15:02] techrights-news #Games: Steam Deck, Retro, and Hero.EXE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156138 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck, Retro, and Hero.EXE | Tux Machines [15:08] XRevan86 gustaf: It isn't. But this difference does occur throughout the coreutils and libc. [15:09] gustaf there used to be a joke that Emacs stood for "Eight megabytes and constantly swapping" [15:09] XRevan86 musl will try the most straightforward approach, glibc will try the most elaborate one. [15:09] gustaf well it's been quite some while since my computer had 8MB of memory [15:10] gustaf XRevan86: I honestly don't know the answer, but isn't a lot of GN [15:10] gustaf U's complexity from having to deal with eleventy different target unixen? [15:10] gustaf sure if you just declare x86 the winner you can cut away a ton of cruft [15:11] XRevan86 gustaf: No, look at the implementation of strdup for instance. [15:12] XRevan86 The glibc' one is trying very hard to minimise the amount of reallocations, so it's a lot bigger. [15:15] techrights-news Build a saltwater battery http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2021/252/Saltwater-Battery [15:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | Clean Power Linux Magazine [15:17] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:18] gustaf ta [15:19] techrights-news "With its point-and-click installation, Redcore aims "to be to Gentoo what Manjaro is to Arch Linux."" http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2021/252/A-Friendly-Derivative [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | Distro Walk Redcore Linux Linux Magazine [15:19] gustaf here's a the lobsters discussion on a Drew rant, it turns out the glibc supports *POSIX* locales, musl doesn't, but in the above link POSIX is the gold standard [15:19] gustaf https://lobste.rs/s/deqdvo/tale_two_libcs [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lobste.rs | A tale of two libcs | Lobsters [15:19] gustaf stuff is complicated, yo [15:21] *blitzed (~blitzed@upze2m3x3zqrw.irc) has joined #techrights [15:22] techrights-news "Detractors will note that the kit of parts costs over $100 USD alone, and that after hours of work and printing, the user is left with a set of headphones made out of obviously 3D-printed parts. It seems destined to be a product aimed at the #3Dprinting fanbase." https://hackaday.com/2021/09/27/how-good-are-the-headamame-3d-printed-headphones/ [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How Good Are The Head(amame) 3D Printed Headphones? | Hackaday [15:22] gustaf or rather, C sucks [15:23] techrights-news Amy Sandys is just a magaphone of Team UPC; did not fact-check or ask anyone except the lobbyists. JUVE has become a laughing stock https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/latest-news-and-updates-on-the-unified-patent-court/ [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Latest news and updates on the Unified Patent Court - JUVE Patent [15:25] techrights-news Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs #UnifiedPatentCourt So Far This Week http://techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ #Techrights #UPC #TeamUPC #UnitaryPatent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/19/captured-media-telling-lies/ [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Naming and Shaming Captured Publications That Knowingly and Intentionally Published Fake News About the EUs Unified Patent Court So Far This Week | Techrights [15:26] techrights-news #UPCA is already dead, but #TeamUPC has crafted a fake news script wherein it's made to look like there is progress and constitutions are to be abandoned https://loupedin.blog/2021/09/gearing-up-for-upc-implementation-one-step-closer-as-slovenia-ratifies-the-pap-protocol/ [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-loupedin.blog | Gearing up for UPC Implementation one step closer as Slovenia ratifies the PAP Protocol - LoupedIn [15:28] techrights-news #JUVE is a #loobying and #marketing site disguised as "news" http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Juve [15:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Juve - Techrights [15:30] techrights-news "For more than five years, I have been writing reports that document the dangers of the encroaching corporatization of public education through ed-tech privatization." https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/09/investigative-reports/nea-world-order/ [15:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-NEA World Order - unlimitedhangout.com [15:34] techrights-news New Issue of Linux Magazine (Paywall) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156140 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Issue of Linux Magazine (Paywall) | Tux Machines [15:35] techrights-news Tracking stolen crypto is a booming business: How #blockchain sleuths recover digital loot https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/09/22/stolen-crypto/ [15:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Forensics investigators track hacked cryptocurrency funds using software - The Washington Post [15:37] techrights-news The internet cannot be suspended in entire districts to prevent cheating in exams - IFF writes to the Rajasthan Government. https://internetfreedom.in/the-internet-cannot-be-suspended-in-entire-districts-to-prevent-cheating-in-exams-iff-writes-to-the-rajasthan-government/ #internetfreedom [15:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | The internet cannot be suspended in entire districts to prevent cheating in exams - IFF writes to the Rajasthan Government. [15:38] techrights-news We need concrete protections from [computer programs] threatening human rights https://theconversation.com/we-need-concrete-protections-from-artificial-intelligence-threatening-human-rights-168174 #theconversation [15:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | We need concrete protections from artificial intelligence threatening human rights [15:40] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [15:46] techrights-news #Lavapipe #Mesa Software Driver Enables Vulkan 1.2 Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Lavapipe-Vulkan-1.2 [15:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lavapipe Mesa Software Driver Enables Vulkan 1.2 Support - Phoronix [15:47] techrights-news #RedHat Satellite 6.10 Beta is now available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156141 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat Satellite 6.10 Beta is now available | Tux Machines [15:47] techrights-news My 2009 LG laptop is running #KDE neon http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156142 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My 2009 LG laptop is running KDE neon | Tux Machines [15:48] techrights-news #Dialect: #freesw Translation App for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156143 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [15:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dialect: An Open-Source Translation App for Linux | Tux Machines [15:49] techrights-news #Bcachefs Merges Support For Btrfs-Like Snapshots - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Bcachefs-Lands-Snapshots #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bcachefs Merges Support For Btrfs-Like Snapshots - Phoronix [15:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [15:53] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156144 #Linux #TuxMachines [15:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [15:58] techrights-news #geminiProtocol and #nntp enthusiasts https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007235.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007234.html https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007232.html #usenet #newsgroups [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup [15:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup ● Sep 27 [16:01] *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [16:01] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.15 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 26.20 swarm size (avg): 257.65 [16:03] techrights-news #Testing The New #ASUS Platform Profile Support In Linux 5.15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156145 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Testing The New ASUS Platform Profile Support In Linux 5.15 | Tux Machines [16:05] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: over time I actually tend to gravitate towards this minimalism approach [16:05] schestowitz-TR ipfs CLI [16:05] schestowitz-TR gemini CLI [16:05] schestowitz-TR not because I lack computing power [16:06] schestowitz-TR partly because programs I used to develop with GUI become obsolete pile of worthless code [16:06] schestowitz-TR too many frameworks and such [16:06] schestowitz-TR then, there are other benefits opening up, like pipes and reuse [16:07] schestowitz-TR the trouble is, all this "open API" thing is the wrong appoach [16:07] schestowitz-TR you end up with so-called FaaS [16:07] schestowitz-TR "serverless' = outsourcing [16:07] schestowitz-TR so we gradaully lose control over compuers [16:07] schestowitz-TR and frameworks are so bloated only one or two corporations maintain them [16:08] schestowitz-TR our level of control is: "open a bug report in Microsoft GitHub" [16:08] schestowitz-TR that's not freedom, we're barely even clientele [16:08] schestowitz-TR Linux has gotten vast and systemd is still a mystery to me [16:08] schestowitz-TR last night it took over an our to fix ipfs [16:09] schestowitz-TR the process would endless respawn without actually functioning [16:09] schestowitz-TR systemctl did not show what was starting it again and again [16:09] schestowitz-TR I had to rename the binary [16:09] schestowitz-TR just to stop that respawning [16:09] schestowitz-TR mv ipfs ipfs2 [16:09] schestowitz-TR and back again [16:09] schestowitz-TR that helped me solve it [16:10] schestowitz-TR first time ipfs binary (ipfs in golang) goes crazy like this [16:10] schestowitz-TR but it's not its fault I could not issue "shutdown' [16:10] schestowitz-TR something in the system (Debian) did that [16:10] schestowitz-TR and I could not killall, it would respawn immediately [16:10] schestowitz-TR or delete the lock file [16:10] schestowitz-TR it would be created again within milisecs [16:11] schestowitz-TR so while ipfs itself is relatively simple [16:11] schestowitz-TR the system it runs on is not [16:11] schestowitz-TR and I never in my whole life came across such an issue [16:11] schestowitz-TR it woke me up at 5am with the LEDs flashing about download for ipfs [16:12] schestowitz-TR an hour later I was no longer tired and could not return to bed until 8am [16:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's go-ipfs? [16:12] schestowitz-TR yes [16:12] schestowitz-TR the most common implementation afaik [16:13] XRevan86 > Restart=on-failure [16:13] XRevan86 It told systemd that. [16:13] schestowitz-TR that server runs many things so reboot is not a solution, though you allude to service restart [16:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: anyway, I don't want to study systemd either [16:14] schestowitz-TR it's changing too fast and IBM is clobbering Red Hat for coins [16:15] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's like saying that bash changes too quickly. [16:15] techrights-news MediaTek Hoping To Bring nanoMIPS Support Upstream Into GCC - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MediaTek-2021-nanoMIPS-GCC #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MediaTek Hoping To Bring nanoMIPS Support Upstream Into GCC - Phoronix [16:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [16:16] XRevan86 Maybe so, but the stuff most services use has been there for years. [16:16] techrights-news Nintendo Crypto Driver Being Worked On For Linux, Yields Much Better AES Performance - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nintendo-AES-Crypto-Driver #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [16:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nintendo Crypto Driver Being Worked On For Linux, Yields Much Better AES Performance - Phoronix [16:20] schestowitz-TR [16:15] schestowitz: It's like saying that bash changes too quickly. [16:20] schestowitz-TR except that would be untrue [16:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: go-ipfs doesn't have a lot of confidence in its code that it decided to tell systemd to restart it every time it crashes. [16:23] XRevan86 schestowitz: Just saying that systemd getting new features doesn't mean that will affect most of the services in any significant way. [16:23] psydruid oh, new features! [16:24] XRevan86 Yea, like disallowing services from reading /proc [16:24] XRevan86 I see there's ipfs-hardened.service which actually uses all the stuff systemd allows for restricting access to the system. [16:29] XRevan86 https://youtu.be/7ASQQboFg98 :( cc: activelow [16:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[1365] Goodbye to BosnianBill - YouTube [16:37] techrights-news Top 21 Favorite Self-hosted Photo Collection and Web-based Galleries [2021] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156146 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 21 Favorite Self-hosted Photo Collection and Web-based Galleries [2021] | Tux Machines [16:37] techrights-news #Q4OS 4 Is Finally Here and Brings the Trinity Desktop Environment to Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156147 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 4 Is Finally Here and Brings the Trinity Desktop Environment to Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [16:38] techrights-news #Kernel: Nintendo, Bcachefs, Lavapipe http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156148 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Nintendo, Bcachefs, Lavapipe | Tux Machines [16:38] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156149 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [16:53] techrights-news Links x/9/2021: OpenSSH 8.8, Martine OS 2.0 and Airyx 0.2.2 Reviewed http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/openssh-8-8/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/openssh-8-8/ [16:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links x/9/2021: OpenSSH 8.8, Martine OS 2.0 and Airyx 0.2.2 Reviewed | Techrights [16:58] techrights-news Top 11 Reasons Why Linux is Better than Windows http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156150 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [16:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 11 Reasons Why Linux is Better than Windows | Tux Machines [16:59] techrights-news Automated Window Blinds Using MQTT And Home Assistant | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/09/26/automated-window-blinds-using-mqtt-and-home-assistant/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [16:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Automated Window Blinds Using MQTT And Home Assistant | Hackaday ● Sep 27 [17:01] techrights-news "By patching Ubuntu Linux, and enabling preemptive multitasking for real-time scheduling, as well as carefully selecting Wi-Fi drivers" https://hackaday.com/2021/09/27/3d-printed-research-robotics-platform-runs-remotely/ [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3D Printed Research Robotics Platform Runs Remotely | Hackaday [17:01] techrights-news #Arduino Orchestra Plays The Planets Suite | Hackaday https://hackaday.com/2021/09/26/arduino-orchestra-plays-the-planets-suite/ #hackaday | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [17:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arduino Orchestra Plays The Planets Suite | Hackaday [17:03] techrights-news When iOS will allow other browsers - otsukare https://www.otsukare.info/2021/09/27/ios-browsers-non-webkit #otsukare [17:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.otsukare.info | When iOS will allow other browsers - otsukare [17:04] techrights-news Four reasons developers should use #ibm #redhat #vendorLockin #Ansible | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/09/27/four-reasons-developers-should-use-ansible so that IBM can get more paying clients, who don't know how to manage the systems when sysadmins leave [17:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Four reasons developers should use Ansible | Red Hat Developer [17:05] techrights-news #GitOps = another worthless buzzword ttps://www.redhat.com/en/blog/configuring-red-hat-ansible-automation-platform-gitops/ #ibm #redhat [17:09] techrights-news The 'Linux' Foundation is morally bankrupt https://www.fudzilla.com/news/53600-microsoft-teams-up-with-linux-foundation-on-energy see http://techrights.org/2021/09/24/spamnil-zdnet-lf-greenwashing-microsoft/ #microsoft #LinuxFoundation [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fudzilla.com | Microsoft teams up with Linux Foundation on energy [17:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux Foundation is Greenwashing Microsoft Again, Misusing the Linux Brand Like Nobodys Business | Techrights [17:12] techrights-news " #SReview, the video review and transcode tool that I originally wrote for FOSDEM 2017 but which has since been used for debconfs and minidebconfs as well, has long had a sizeable component for inspecting media files with ffprobe, and generating ffmpeg command lines to convert media files from one format to another." https://grep.be/blog//en/computer/SReview/SReview__Video_is_now_Media__Convert/ [17:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-grep.be | SReview::Video is now Media::Convert [17:14] techrights-news Rather strange that this self-promotional FUD suddenly resurfaces almost 2 months later https://www.datamation.com/security/report-13-million-malware-events-linux-cloud/ distraction? [17:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reports Shows Over 13 Million Malware Events Targeting Linux Cloud | Datamation [17:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 26.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.78 swarm size (avg): 257.89 [17:16] techrights-news #Google Working to Bring Android Closer to Linux #Kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155969#comment-31165 [17:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Google, Xen, and Mesa | Tux Machines [17:19] techrights-news More #LinuxFoundation spam today http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155904#comment-31166 see http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/ [17:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Foundation: PaSh, LFMS, and 'Studies' | Tux Machines [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation is Selling Tweets, Access, Thank Yous and SPAM Services | Techrights [17:20] techrights-news #PostgreSQL Weekly News - September 26, 2021 https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/postgresql-weekly-news-september-26-2021-2312/ #psql #postgres [17:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PostgreSQL Weekly News - September 26, 2021 [17:23] techrights-news "Over the past week, 328 Apache Committers changed 7,398,124 lines of code over 2,924 commits. Top 5 contributors, in order, are: Harikrishna Patnala, Gary Gregory, Andy Seaborne, Daniel Gruno, and Mark Thomas." https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the-apache-news-round-up245 [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.apache.org | The Apache News Round-up: week ending 27 September 2021 : The Apache Software Foundation Blog [17:26] techrights-news What happens when a longtime #GNU / #Linux expert/veteran of a high profile ( #EasyOS / #PuppyLinux ) tries to actually compile bloat of Google, such as #Chromium (monopolies in "open" clothing) https://bkhome.org/news/202109/chromium-almost-compiled-fails-last-link-step.html [17:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Chromium almost compiled fails last link step [17:26] schestowitz-TR activelow: ^^ [17:27] *mahlon (~mahlon@martini.nu) has joined #techrights [17:29] techrights-news Brave Launches Privacy-Focused Brave Talk as a Desperate Attempt to Push Brave Advertisements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156111#comment-31167 [17:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Brave reduces the page load performance cost of its adblocker | Tux Machines [17:30] techrights-news Godot Engine - Introducing GDNatives successor, GDExtension https://godotengine.org/article/introducing-gd-extensions #godotengine #games #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware [17:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Introducing GDNative's successor, GDExtension [17:32] techrights-news #IBM #Redhat : 13 resources for learning to write better #GNU Bash code https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/learn-bash-scripting https://fedoramagazine.org/bash-shell-scripting-for-beginners-part-1/ they love GNU when it suits them... [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | 13 resources for learning to write better Bash code | Enable Sysadmin [17:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Bash Shell Scripting for beginners (Part 1) - Fedora Magazine [17:38] techrights-news Theory: Russian and Chinese vaccines are about as effective as the Western ones, but they're lying less, the #falsemarketing (control of narritive in Western press) doesn't rely on blaming "variants" (as if mutation was unprecedented and foreseen?) [17:38] techrights-news Open Hardware/Modding Projects http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156151 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Projects | Tux Machines [17:40] techrights-news We need a deserve more honest communication from the governments regarding vaccine efficacy http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2021/08/19/covid19-communication-strategy/ [17:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com Blog Archive Vaccination is Good, But the Current Vaccination Strategy (of Overwhelming Fear/Hysteria) Will Fail to Convince Sceptical People [17:41] techrights-news #Geniatech GTW410 A#Geniatech GTW410 An ultra compact IoT gateway based on Snapdragon 410E SoC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156152 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachinesn ultra compact IoT gateway based on Snapdragon 410E SoC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156152 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Geniatech GTW410 An ultra compact IoT gateway based on Snapdragon 410E SoC | Tux Machines [17:41] techrights-news #Geniatech GTW410 An ultra compact IoT gateway based on Snapdragon 410E SoC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156152 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:42] gustaf schestowitz-TR: I followed the guide on TR to set up a gemini server - but I had to use gemserv as the one you used couldn't bind to an ip somehow [17:42] gustaf gemserv is rust too [17:45] techrights-news #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156153 #GNU #Linux [17:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:47] schestowitz-TR ip for the localcost, gustaf? [17:48] techrights-news The Fast File Search App FSearch Goes Stable via 0.1 Release [Ubuntu PPA] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156154 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Fast File Search App FSearch Goes Stable via 0.1 Release [Ubuntu PPA] | Tux Machines [17:53] techrights-news #Microsoft #Windows is the worst 'rolling distro' ever. More like 'loling' distro (for those watching it from afar https://betanews.com/2021/09/26/microsoft-rolls-back-kb5005101-update-for-windows-10-following-app-launch-problems/ [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Microsoft rolls back KB5005101 update for Windows 10 following app launch problems [17:55] techrights-news Whats up with Sandboxing? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156155 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Jolla #SailfishOS [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Whats up with Sandboxing? | Tux Machines [17:55] techrights-news #Kubernetes Posts From #RedHat and #SUSE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156156 #GNU #Linux [17:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kubernetes Posts From Red Hat and SUSE | Tux Machines [17:57] techrights-news #linuxfoundation still violates #twitter terms of service http://techrights.org/2019/04/07/linux-foundation-selling-tweets/ [17:59] techrights-news #deletegithub #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #monopoly #flutter https://www.ravsam.in/blog/build-a-tip-calculator-app-in-flutter/ [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ravsam.in | Building a Tip Calculator App in Flutter ● Sep 27 [18:00] techrights-news #UK Government responds to DCMS #Music #Streaming Inquiry recommendations - The IPKat http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/uk-government-responds-to-dcms-music.html #ipkitten | [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | UK Government responds to DCMS Music Streaming Inquiry recommendations - The IPKat [18:03] techrights-news #email versus #usenet : "My initial thought was that there is no real reason to move away from the mailing list but it would actually be convenient to separate these discussions from my other emails (this is the only mailing list I use)." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/007236.html [18:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Usenet Newsgroup [18:06] MinceR 27 160929 < gustaf> there used to be a joke that Emacs stood for "Eight megabytes and constantly swapping" [18:06] MinceR it also stands for Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift [18:16] *mib_ru580q (~a739f8e3@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [18:17] techrights-news [Meme] Tech Companies: No Friends of Women http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/ibm-and-women/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #IBM | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/ibm-and-women/ [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Tech Companies: No Friends of Women | Techrights [18:17] techrights-news #XeroLinux Review - Stunning Linux Distribution with Arch and KDE Plasma http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156157 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | XeroLinux Review - Stunning Linux Distribution with Arch and KDE Plasma | Tux Machines [18:18] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776924.jpg [18:19] techrights-news Just another reminder that companies like #IBM do not actually care about women; they are misusing genuine feminism for corporate objectives http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/ibm-and-women/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/ibm-and-women/ [18:23] *mib_ru580q has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [18:27] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@me899q2kjs8su.irc) has joined #techrights [18:37] techrights-news [Meme] Route de #France http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/facts-catch-up-epo/ #Techrights #EPO #corruption #europe | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/facts-catch-up-epo/ [18:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Route de France | Techrights [18:42] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/tYDFGHB.mp4 [18:47] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [18:51] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fyxrdpb9didae.irc) has joined #techrights [18:51] DaemonFC Okay, I had a support chat with a NordVPN guy. [18:51] DaemonFC He was able to get some stuff working better for me on Debian. [18:52] schestowitz-TR cool [18:52] schestowitz-TR and it will benefit other users [18:53] DaemonFC Apparently, my iptables settings were kind of messed up by the "killswitch" on their current release. [18:53] techrights-news Links 27/9/2021: Q4OS 4, Windows Breaks Itself http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/q4os-4/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/q4os-4/ [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 27/9/2021: Q4OS 4, Windows Breaks Itself | Techrights [18:53] DaemonFC So he walked me through clearing that. [18:53] schestowitz-TR cool [18:53] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156158 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:53] DaemonFC He says that their tech people recommend reverting to an earlier release (3.8.4) for now until this is fixed. [18:54] techrights-news #Fedora 35 is Shaping Up to Be an Impressive Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156159 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora 35 is Shaping Up to Be an Impressive Release | Tux Machines [18:54] techrights-news #FreeSoftware : Godot Engine, Apache, and #PostgreSQL http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156160 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: Godot Engine, Apache, and PostgreSQL | Tux Machines [18:55] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Apparently, their system service for "autoconnect" doesn't get along well with the firewall rules that killswitch sets up. [18:55] DaemonFC So if you try turning on both at once, kaboom. [18:55] DaemonFC Even if you turn off the killswitch later. [18:55] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware Issues: #Apple Obstruction, #Google Obfuscation, #Microsoft Breakage, and Recycled FUD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156161 [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Issues: Apple Obstruction, Google Obfuscation, Microsoft Breakage, and Recycled FUD | Tux Machines [18:55] DaemonFC So if you want to run the 3.10 version, just set killswitch on and connect manually. [18:55] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156162 #Linux #TuxMachines [18:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:56] DaemonFC Not a big deal I guess. [18:56] DaemonFC I could probably just set something to run nordvpn c on every boot, to be honest, and bypass this systemd sysvinit script mishandling bug in the first place. [18:56] DaemonFC systemd is the nastiest piece of shit I've ever seen land on Linux. [18:57] DaemonFC It is so easy to misconfigure it and end up with a broken system. [18:57] DaemonFC Upstart was so much better written. Debian should have adopted that and given IBM RedHat the finger. [18:57] schestowitz-TR they still can [18:57] schestowitz-TR did a general resolution [18:57] schestowitz-TR GR [18:57] schestowitz-TR on that metter [18:57] schestowitz-TR matter [18:57] schestowitz-TR 2 years ago [18:58] DaemonFC The Debian family is larger and I think they have the pull to resist and refuse systemd. [18:58] schestowitz-TR at the moment devuan gives the option, debian might too [18:58] DaemonFC But they embrace it and the tentacles into the rest of the utilities grow larger. [18:58] DaemonFC It's more difficult to root it out later. [18:59] techrights-news At the #EPO , facts catch up with you http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/facts-catch-up-epo/ #Techrights #Europe #Patents #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/facts-catch-up-epo/ [18:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Route de France | Techrights ● Sep 27 [19:00] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, My old laptop screen looks better, but still has scaling issues on some apps. [19:00] DaemonFC This 1920x1080 display on the newer one is perfectly nice. [19:00] DaemonFC The HiDPI thing was just a fad, I think. [19:00] DaemonFC Unless you're using them for something professional, they don't matter much. [19:09] techrights-news #epo is all about taking away the money https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/official-journal/information-epo/archive/20210927.html and then funnelling it to corrupt officials: http://techrights.org/2019/10/30/epotif/ [19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Notice from the European Patent Office dated 23 September 2021 concerning the payment of fees by credit card [19:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO May be Financially Defrauding the Public and Its Employees | Techrights [19:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 29.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.28 swarm size (avg): 258.06 [19:21] MinceR https://i.redd.it/tq0imzzb0up71.jpg [19:21] gustaf schestowitz-TR: never got it to work, but gemserv looks good [19:21] gustaf has cgi should I wish to tinker with that [19:37] schestowitz-TR I wish we had chosen something with cgi [19:37] schestowitz-TR at least for in-site search [19:40] schestowitz-TR (agate does not support cgi [19:40] schestowitz-TR so we wished we had chosen more carefully, though agate is very reliable in general (so far) [19:46] gustaf https://sr.ht/~int80h/gemserv/ [19:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sr.ht | gemserv: a gemini server written in rust [19:47] gustaf I compiled it w/o cgi, but the certs etc worked [19:47] gustaf so it should be a drop-in replacement [19:51] techrights-news GNU Wget2 Was Released as the Successor of the Original Wget App http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156112#comment-31168 [19:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Wget2 2.0.0 released | Tux Machines [19:51] techrights-news Full Circle Weekly News #229 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/podcast/full-circle-weekly-news-229/ #gnu #linux [19:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Weekly News #229 | Full Circle Magazine [19:53] techrights-news #Inkscape 1.1.1 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156163 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [19:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Inkscape 1.1.1 Released | Tux Machines [19:57] techrights-news How much media coverage today about #gnu turning 38? Compare to #linux and ask yourself WHY... ● Sep 27 [20:01] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156164 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [20:02] techrights-news #Manjaro 21.1.3 #GNOME Edition Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=P6EcC7HayoI #video [20:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Manjaro 21.1.3 GNOME Edition Quick overview #Shorts - Invidious [20:03] techrights-news "This is the #Slimbook One, and it's a small form factor desktop. It looks really good, and it packs a surprising punch for its size. Let's see what that thing can do." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CGCBjgl_ndo [20:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Better Mac Mini than the Mac Mini - Slimbook One Review - Invidious [20:05] techrights-news Omitting #GNU like it never existed https://hostingtribunal.com/blog/linux-statistics/#gref [20:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hostingtribunal.com | 111+ Mind-boggling Linux Statistics and Facts for 2021 - Linux Rocks! [20:06] techrights-news "Need more games to start your week? Humble recently put up the Dream Teams Bundle and all the games should work reasonably well on #GNU #Linux too. Most of them you will need Steam Play Proton to play on Linux though, as only one actually has a Linux version." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/humble-has-some-co-op-treats-in-the-dream-teams-bundle [20:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Humble has some co-op treats in the Dream Teams Bundle | GamingOnLinux [20:08] techrights-news The absolutely ace deck-builder Dicey Dungeons is now on GOG | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/09/the-absolutely-ace-deck-builder-dicey-dungeons-is-now-on-gog #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The absolutely ace deck-builder Dicey Dungeons is now on GOG | GamingOnLinux [20:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [20:12] techrights-news Should You Pay for Linux? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156165 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines (is that a "MAC" PC in front of him) [20:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Should You Pay for Linux? | Tux Machines [20:13] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Putting some final touches on a blog post. [20:14] schestowitz-TR good [20:15] techrights-news #Gardening micro-HAT starts at $28 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156166 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Gardening micro-HAT starts at $28 | Tux Machines [20:16] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, "I also disabled Secure Boot, which has never secured any Linux computer. In fact, about all it ever has done for us is put Microsoft at the "root of trust" and I'd rather trust a hungry bear with a steak in my back pocket than Microsoft. " [20:16] techrights-news #southafrica https://ewn.co.za/2021/09/27/foundation-repulsed-after-desmond-tutu-mural-defaced-in-ct [20:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ewn.co.za | Foundation repulsed after Desmond Tutu mural defaced in CT [20:16] DaemonFC "This horrible fake security scheme called Secure Boot has even malfunctioned and caused Linux distros to be impossible to boot before due to the "dbx" being updated by one, and then making it impossible to boot another. So whether you can boot depends on what the last OS you booted was. Great design, I'll tell you what! Turning it off ensures that it cannot cause a problem." [20:17] schestowitz-TR 'secure' [20:18] schestowitz-TR robust to choice [20:19] techrights-news A Modest Apology for the Man in the Bottle (1749) The Public Domain Review https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/bottleman #publicdomainreview #publicdomain [20:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | A Modest Apology for the Man in the Bottle (1749) The Public Domain Review [20:20] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, "Oh, and if anyone from the FSF is reading this, feel free to tell Stallman that they can give a Free Software Award to me next time. I haven't written any Free Software programs, sure, but I also haven't done anything to sabotage your movement in ways you might never recover from, like Microsoft employee Miguel de Icaza and uEFI "Secure Boot" troll and overall pervert Matthew Garrett have. While you were pinning a medal on [20:20] DaemonFC Garrett, you also had a page blasting this Security Theater as "Restricted Boots"." [20:20] MinceR :> [20:22] techrights-news #Inkscape 1.1.1 Open-Source and Free SVG Editor Released as a Bug and Crash Fix Update http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156167 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:22] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: money talks... [20:22] schestowitz-TR you get compensated better to screw people [20:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Inkscape 1.1.1 Open-Source and Free SVG Editor Released as a Bug and Crash Fix Update | Tux Machines [20:22] schestowitz-TR (not in FODD conferences) [20:23] schestowitz-TR *FOSS [20:23] DaemonFC I always got the impression that Garrett takes it up the ass in more ways than one. [20:23] DaemonFC He seems like John. [20:23] DaemonFC Personality types repeat if you pay attention to enough people. [20:25] techrights-news #Developers: Let distros do their job http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156168 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Programming [20:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Developers: Let distros do their job | Tux Machines [20:26] techrights-news Automation isn't something #ibm has a #monopoly on. The company thinks it gets to decide on our dictionary, like it's the master of words and we're just IBM slaves. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-automation-glossary [20:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat automation glossary [20:28] techrights-news #rustlang defines its core developers 100% by their #MICROSOFT accounts (in #proprietarySoftware trap) https://blog.rust-lang.org/2021/09/27/Core-team-membership-updates.html [20:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.rust-lang.org | Core team membership updates | Rust Blog [20:30] techrights-news #wordpress Upcoming Gallery Block improvements https://wordpress.org/news/2021/09/upcoming-gallery-block-improvements/ so bloated. #gpl #cms #www [20:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-News Upcoming Gallery Block improvements WordPress.org [20:31] techrights-news Those contain #nsa #backdoors due to poor choice of chipset. https://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-daq-board-expands-with-pcie-104-onebank/ #OneBank [20:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/rugged-daq-board-expands-with-pcie-104-onebank/ ) [20:33] schestowitz DaemonFC: XRevan86 "Ill get a shells.com machine running for us to try out too." https://jriddell.org/2021/09/27/plasma-25th-anniversary-edition-beta-testing-day/ [20:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jriddell.org | Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition Beta Testing Day Jonathan Esk-Riddell's Diary [20:34] techrights-news Plasma 25th Anniversary Edition Beta Testing Day https://jriddell.org/2021/09/27/plasma-25th-anniversary-edition-beta-testing-day/ #kde #gnu #linux #freesw #qt [20:35] techrights-news #listeningDevices #gulag #fcc https://liliputing.com/2021/09/new-xiaomi-mi-tv-stick-with-android-tv-and-google-assistant-hits-the-fcc.html [20:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Xiaomi Mi TV Stick with Android TV and Google Assistant hits the FCC - Liliputing [20:40] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/0b5d96a2-dcd8-4b8d-addc-fdc1168942af/d35ciau-3b1a62bb-d565-447e-8386-bb1c9a561037.jpg/v1/fill/w_900,h_603,q_75,strp/shell_hell_by_grandpaneverlie-d35ciau.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb [20:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 401 @ https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/0b5d96a2-dcd8-4b8d-addc-fdc1168942af/d35ciau-3b1a62bb-d565-447e-8386-bb1c9a561037.jpg/v1/fill/w_900,h_603,q_75,strp/shell_hell_by_grandpaneverlie-d35ciau.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpp ... [20:40] DaemonFC 25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi8wYjVkOTZhMi1kY2Q4LTRiOGQtYWRkYy1mZGMxMTY4OTQyYWYvZDM1Y2lhdS0zYjFhNjJiYi1kNTY1LTQ0N2UtODM4Ni1iYjFjOWE1NjEwMzcuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTkwMCIsImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9NjAzIn1dXX0.YvyLfDyRz3trbNXXDCcRYR3hTg1EBWiL-GLffVwSy6Y [20:41] DaemonFC Oh damn. [20:41] schestowitz-TR I think I can glue it together ;-) [20:42] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/09/27/switched-from-windows-10-to-debian-11-on-lenovo-thinkbook-15-gen2-itl-plus-thoughts-on-ubuntu-and-fedora/ [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Switched from Windows 10 to Debian 11 on Lenovo ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL. Plus, thoughts on Ubuntu and Fedora. BaronHK's Rants [20:42] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, "So Canonical can release marketing blurbs about how that extra 5 years of security support is free to home users, but I guarantee that none of you will be able to stand it, although its at least better than what happens to Windows users (when isnt it?) where Microsoft may go on for 15 years putting out security updates, but it makes sure you cant get the ones it still makes because thats a source of extra blo [20:42] DaemonFC od from corporate types who built an unsupportable mess and are now trapped on Windows XP or 7 or whatever. [20:42] DaemonFC " [20:43] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156169 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:44] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I might write about Vivaldi on Debian later. [20:44] DaemonFC Did you know that Vivaldi on Debian runs faster than Vivaldi did on my 5 years newer laptop with Windows 10? [20:44] DaemonFC Vivaldi on my older laptop that is. [20:45] DaemonFC 5 years older, but runs Vivaldi better than one 5 years newer because Windows is just that much of a drag. [20:45] DaemonFC You can give Windows whatever kind of CPU you want and it just makes it awful. [20:45] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: Proxmox, Slimbook One, Manjaro 21.1.3 GNOME Edition, and Full Circle Weekly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156170 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Proxmox, Slimbook One, Manjaro 21.1.3 GNOME Edition, and Full Circle Weekly | Tux Machines [20:46] schestowitz-TR should it be small u in uEFI? [20:47] techrights-news Switched from Windows 10 to #Debian 11 on Lenovo ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL. Plus, thoughts on Ubuntu and Fedora. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156171 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Switched from Windows 10 to Debian 11 on Lenovo ThinkBook 15 Gen2 ITL. Plus, thoughts on Ubuntu and Fedora. | Tux Machines [20:48] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Yes, why? [20:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: I wonder what's the appeal. [20:49] schestowitz-TR of shells? [20:49] schestowitz-TR well, maybe sponsorship [20:49] XRevan86 yea, and the concept [20:49] schestowitz-TR "imperial" money [20:51] techrights-news Chris Titus Live - #GNU #Linux #Gaming - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UTbtfbLg7hg #video #invidious [20:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Live - Linux Gaming - Invidious [20:51] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I don't see Vivaldi as an odd choice on Debian. [20:52] DaemonFC It's a general purpose OS that runs software, including Vivaldi, much more smoothly than Windows does. [20:52] DaemonFC If anything, this just highlights how much Windows is falling behind in a technical sense. [20:52] schestowitz-TR it has for over a decade [20:52] DaemonFC My laptop is 4 cores with hyperthreading and Windows can't even manage this effectively. [20:53] schestowitz-TR OEMs need to stop taking bribes to impose it on people [20:53] DaemonFC What are those 64 core CPUs good for with Windows? [20:53] schestowitz-TR Microsoft does not make CPUs [20:53] schestowitz-TR the companies do [20:53] DaemonFC Their process scheduling is hell on Earth. [20:53] schestowitz-TR Microsoft help sell them [20:53] schestowitz-TR too slow? [20:53] DaemonFC And that really drags you down and makes nice hardware pointless. [20:53] schestowitz-TR buy a 16-core PC [20:53] schestowitz-TR my 4-core machine is heaven now [20:53] schestowitz-TR first time I have more than 2 [20:54] schestowitz-TR it's super fact with like 400 processes running [20:54] schestowitz-TR *fast [20:54] DaemonFC There's too much overhead and it doesn't schedule processes to run on the right cores at the right time. [20:54] DaemonFC So it all falls apart due to missing more than there are hits. [20:54] techrights-news #Games: Humble, GOG, and Linux Gaming (Live) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156172 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Humble, GOG, and Linux Gaming (Live) | Tux Machines [20:54] DaemonFC And it becomes counterproductive eventually, even if you add more cores. [20:54] schestowitz-TR Vista SP 10 and 11 have DRM in their pipeline [20:54] schestowitz-TR who the hell knows what it's doing in the background [20:55] DaemonFC Microsoft Pretender is a drag no matter how they spin it. [20:55] DaemonFC Something that traps every file system call and scans every file is having a deleterious effect on the system. [20:55] schestowitz-TR haha [20:55] schestowitz-TR yes, that [20:55] schestowitz-TR more code, more crap [20:55] schestowitz-TR dragging it down [20:56] DaemonFC Then there's Telemetry. [20:56] schestowitz-TR as a service [20:56] schestowitz-TR as a product [20:56] DaemonFC Phoronix benchmarked a Windows 10 Enterprise with Teletry on Full, Basic, and Off. [20:56] schestowitz-TR YOU are the product [20:56] DaemonFC And it was costing it a measurable amount of performance. [20:56] schestowitz-TR telemetry is THEIR service [20:56] DaemonFC Can't recall the exact figure. Something like 10%-ish. [20:56] schestowitz-TR now MS brings telemetry to "LINUX" [20:56] MinceR https://i.gyazo.com/3b4d9755d7d0fba26be82bde3dd6928a.png [20:56] DaemonFC Just so it can spy. [20:56] schestowitz-TR VS 'Code' for example [20:57] DaemonFC So between that and Pretender, you're losing about 15-20% of your computer's performance to spying and shitty malware scanner. [20:57] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I installed Tixati for Linux. [20:57] DaemonFC Haven't dug too deeply into it. It's using GTK 2, still. [20:57] DaemonFC It's relatively small. [20:57] DaemonFC Other than that, it works about like the Windows version. [20:57] schestowitz-TR what doesthat do? [20:58] DaemonFC It's a BitTorrent client, basically. With a chat system built-in. [20:58] DaemonFC It lets users advertise magnets that they like. [20:58] DaemonFC So essentially you could just stay in the client and never browse any website and just click magnet links in the client. ● Sep 27 [21:00] DaemonFC QBitTorrent works fine too. [21:00] DaemonFC On Windows, QBitTorrent is a pretty big resource hog. [21:00] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [21:00] *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@fyxrdpb9didae.irc) has joined #techrights [21:01] DaemonFC https://www.magic4hosting.com/eng/knowledge-base/how-to-fix-a-corrupted-windows-ntfs-filesystem-with-linux/ [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.magic4hosting.com | How to Fix a Corrupted Windows NTFS Filesystem with Linux [21:01] DaemonFC Is there any particular reason not to use an NTFS formatted external hard disk on Linux? [21:02] DaemonFC schestowitz, I think on the Western Digital, I formatted it Ext4 and then ran chmod +R 777 on the drive so that I could get at the data on my other systems. [21:03] DaemonFC I don't really like the idea of using NTFS on Linux because it's non-native and obviously Microsoft is never going to tell us how it works, which means no matter what driver you use, things will be "wrong" at some point. [21:03] DaemonFC Plus, they can't even get their own repair tools working reliably. [21:03] DaemonFC After almost 30 years. [21:04] DaemonFC Plus there's that FUSE mess. [21:08] *schestowitz-TR back with coffee [21:08] schestowitz-TR you don't need FUSE [21:08] schestowitz-TR the use cases for them are excptional [21:09] schestowitz-TR you enough enough good native FSes for many situations and device types [21:10] DaemonFC Yeah, Ext4 with chmod 777. [21:10] schestowitz-TR I've just managed to compress 10+ mins of video into 34MB [21:10] DaemonFC I'm copying everything over to a scratch folder. [21:10] schestowitz-TR but it took ENORMOUS amount of CPU power [21:10] DaemonFC I'll format the Toshiba Canvio with Ext4 and then copy everything back. [21:10] schestowitz-TR you can wipe the other paritition [21:11] DaemonFC Ext4 is much more reliable than NTFS, even just as a straight up comparison. Much less trying to use NTFS with some third party reversed driver. [21:11] schestowitz-TR and use that as a backup for files [21:11] schestowitz-TR in case you don't wish to mess too much with gparted [21:11] DaemonFC The hard drive is external. [21:11] schestowitz-TR stfs is not a file system [21:11] schestowitz-TR it is a file loss system [21:11] DaemonFC All I use it for is to put massive files on and some backups. [21:11] schestowitz-TR *ntfs [21:12] DaemonFC Like movies I haven't watched on the TV yet. [21:12] DaemonFC That way they aren't hogging up my SSD. [21:12] MinceR EncFS uses FUSE, and it seems to be the only widely supported encrypted filesystem [21:12] schestowitz-TR on ssd? [21:12] schestowitz-TR use external magnetic for that afterwards [21:12] schestowitz-TR 5tb drives are cheap now [21:12] DaemonFC I got a 4 TB model. [21:13] DaemonFC It was like $91, but I used Mandy's employee discount and bought it online for my 5% points. [21:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: can you read my draft? [21:13] DaemonFC Yeah. [21:13] schestowitz-TR finished uploading the vid 10 secs ago [21:13] DaemonFC I was just trying to get as much storage as possible on a decently reliable hard drive as cheap as I could get it. [21:13] DaemonFC Western Digital has really gone downhill. [21:14] DaemonFC Damned thing only lasted 5 years and then crashed. [21:14] schestowitz DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/team-upc-pre-brexit-mindset/ [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to UPC, EPO is Still Stuck in Pre-Brexit Mindset (More Than Half a Decade in the Past) | Techrights [21:15] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I use multimple external drives in case it happens [21:15] schestowitz-TR and swap between them , alternation [21:15] DaemonFC "In the past we were alone a lone voice with rebuttals," [21:15] DaemonFC In the past we were alone, a lone voice with rebuttals, [21:15] DaemonFC "focus focuses" [21:16] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.60 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.31 swarm size (avg): 258.23 [21:16] DaemonFC "broken telephone" [21:16] DaemonFC broken record? [21:17] schestowitz-TR thanks! [21:18] schestowitz-TR we''re winning on that front [21:18] schestowitz-TR UPC and swpats [21:18] schestowitz-TR but it takes tons of relentlless pushback [21:18] schestowitz-TR IBM will be toppled in a few years, it'll becoming some niche like unisys [21:19] schestowitz-TR Microsoft is just faking it, but it's still lobbying with IBM on patents. Both need to go. [21:19] DaemonFC Wow, this Vivaldi translator works much better than the Google one they just switched from. [21:20] DaemonFC It just translated an article from French for me and it reads almost as if the person wrote it in English to begin with. [21:20] schestowitz-TR which langs (oh you beat me to it) [21:20] schestowitz-TR did Google even make its own translator or did it buy some company? [21:20] schestowitz-TR its translations in technical fields is awful [21:20] schestowitz-TR surely it can be done better [21:21] schestowitz-TR if they invested more in human programming, not word parsing and substitution alone [21:21] DaemonFC Probably bought. [21:22] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Debian is registered as an IRS non-profit organization. [21:22] DaemonFC So technically you can donate up to $600 and deduct even if you don't itemize, but only for this tax year. [21:22] DaemonFC Due to COVID, Congress made a one time amendment to the tax code that lets you do that. [21:23] DaemonFC No, it's $300. [21:23] DaemonFC Still. [21:24] DaemonFC "For the 2021 tax year, the charitable deduction is even better, at least for those who file a joint return. For 2020, the charitable limit was $300 per tax unit meaning that those who are married and filing jointly can only get a $300 deduction. For the 2021 tax year, however, those who are married and filing jointly can each take a $300 deduction, for a total of $600." [21:24] DaemonFC But that's per person, so I could donate $300 as me and $300 as Mandy to something and then deduct it. [21:24] DaemonFC We'll see where the finances are in a couple months. [21:24] DaemonFC I'd rather Debian get it than the fucking IRS. And since it comes out of your AGI, that reduces our state tax too! [21:27] MinceR or you could donate it to someone who does actual free OS development instead of just redoing what fedora does :> [21:30] techrights-news When It Comes to #UPC , #EPO is Still Stuck in Pre-Brexit Mindset (More Than Half a Decade in the Past) http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/team-upc-pre-brexit-mindset/ #unitarypatent #unifiedPatentCourt #teamUPC [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to UPC, EPO is Still Stuck in Pre-Brexit Mindset (More Than Half a Decade in the Past) | Techrights [21:30] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [21:35] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTi0A3BF0i4 [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mad TV - Steven Seagal - Kung Fu - YouTube [21:40] DaemonFC They did end up grabbing a lot of things I saw in Fedora and inherited many of the same problems as a result, but it's still not as inherently unstable as Fedora. [21:41] DaemonFC Fedora will take kernels that are marked stable but god only knows what they'll do, for example, because they're new and nobody who didn't try out an rc actually ran it yet. [21:41] DaemonFC Throwing it at a bunch of users on a perpetually "unstable" system is how you know what it will do. [21:41] DaemonFC But they don't know what it will do. [21:42] DaemonFC If you use a more conservative release channel, you get less bugs, in exchange for not having the newest features. [21:42] MinceR i guess they do need the money to fund making it more inherently unstable :> [21:42] DaemonFC I was talking to a Red Hat guy years ago about what RHEL was and he basically admitted "It's a Fedora that people pay us to keep a bit crusty.". [21:43] MinceR though it would be a lot cheaper if they just rebranded a fedora iso [21:43] DaemonFC But RHEL has gotten much more aggressive than Debian about taking in newer software. [21:43] MinceR does this apply to software not owned by ibm? [21:43] DaemonFC If Debian releases with GNOME 3.38 and a Linux 5.10 kernel, then that's what it will have for that release. [21:43] MinceR or only to whatever poettering shits out? [21:44] DaemonFC Red Hat backports major stuff to their kernels and brings in newer versions of GNOME now, and that can cause all kinds of hell for their Enterprise customers. [21:50] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, There was a "Microsoft Reserved" Partition at the head of the hard disk. [21:51] DaemonFC I made a new partition table and redid all of it as one partition of Ext4. [21:51] DaemonFC I have no idea why it would need 135 GB at the start of the disk for "Microsoft Reserved". [21:56] techrights-news What the Heli, Battistelli? http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/epo-nepotism-meme/ #Battistelli #EPO #corruption #nepotism #Europe [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | What the Heli, Battistelli? | Techrights [21:58] schestowitz MinceR: eastwood [21:59] MinceR ? [21:59] schestowitz nm [21:59] schestowitz anyway,weird skit ● Sep 27 [22:04] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156173 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [22:15] techrights-news The sheer lunacy of #TeamUPC is up on display and the #EPO links to a webinar from 5.5 years ago; theyre still living in a fantasy world http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/team-upc-pre-brexit-mindset/ #Techrights #UnitaryPatent #UnifiedPatentCourt| Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/team-upc-pre-brexit-mindset/ [22:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to UPC, EPO is Still Stuck in Pre-Brexit Mindset (More Than Half a Decade in the Past) | Techrights [22:15] techrights-news Ms Pyjamas (Heli) and Ms Bergot, a notoriously strong lady (for marrying the right man?) http://techrights.org/2021/09/27/epo-nepotism-meme/ #Techrights #EPO #nepotism #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/09/27/epo-nepotism-meme/ [22:18] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights [22:18] techrights-news Not many videos in #techrights lately, but longer ones than usual http://techrights.org/videos/ [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index [22:19] DaemonFC The write speeds on these drives are not the best. [22:19] techrights-news Who is this Jess from OSI? Staff/Board page names nobody with that name. https://opensource.org/blog/2021-09-affiliate-members-updates [22:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.org | Updates from OSI Affiliate members (Sept. 2021) | Open Source Initiative [22:19] DaemonFC But then again, it seems pretty typical for an external hard drive. [22:20] techrights-news "Intel Software Defined Silicon" Coming To Linux For Activating Extra Licensed #Hardware Features - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Intel-Software-Defined-Silicon #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux [22:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Intel Software Defined Silicon" Coming To Linux For Activating Extra Licensed Hardware Features - Phoronix [22:21] techrights-news Destination Linux 245: What #GNU #Linux Needs For Desktop Domination - Destination Linux https://destinationlinux.org/episode-245/ #destinationlinux [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-destinationlinux.org | 245: What Linux Needs For Desktop Domination - Destination Linux [22:21] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/776907.jpg [22:30] techrights-news #Q4OS 4.6 Release Coverage and Original http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156147#comment-31170 #gnnu #linux #debian [22:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Q4OS 4 Is Finally Here and Brings the Trinity Desktop Environment to Debian GNU/Linux 11 Bullseye | Tux Machines [22:32] techrights-news Some "trust", eh? https://www.itsfoss.net/lets-encrypt/ see http://techrights.org/2020/03/04/lets-ask-lets-encrypt/ [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://www.itsfoss.net/lets-encrypt/ ) [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Urges Readers to Ask the Linux Foundations Lets Encrypt (Backed by Companies That Give the NSA Back Doors) Some Hard But Legitimate Questions | Techrights [22:33] techrights-news #Rakudo Weekly News: 2021.39 Programming Haku https://rakudoweekly.blog/2021/09/27/2021-39-programming-haku/ #rakulang #perl #programming [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudoweekly.blog | 2021.39 Programming Haku Rakudo Weekly News [22:44] techrights-news #Kernel: Google, Intel, and Stats http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156174 #GPL #Linux #TuxMachines [22:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Google, Intel, and Stats | Tux Machines [22:45] techrights-news " #Whitehurst left if that tells you anything" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d0rqcsL#replies #ibm #redhat #layoffs [22:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Excited about potentially joining Red Hat - post regarding IBM layoffs [22:46] techrights-news #redhat " #Ibm doesn't know how exactly to use RH and therefore they haven't bluewashed it so that's probably a good thing. However RHs revenue is only 3b, it's major customers arent running ibm cloud or any ibm related sw." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d0rqcsL#replies [22:47] techrights-news "When #Whitehurst left, it was a Red Hot warning that IBM is planning big changes that he was unwilling to participate in. When IBM finishes dismembering itself, it will turn its attention to Red Hat. Don't go there." #ibm #redhat https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d0rqcsL#replies [22:49] techrights-news "Congrats on the [ #redhat ] offer but you should prep to leave for FANG in 2 years" (Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google) https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1d0rqcsL#replies #ibm [22:50] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVEB9Tzunl8 [22:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Henry speaks with no commentary, reminds me to go to bed. - YouTube [22:51] techrights-news Henry speaks with no commentary, reminds me to go to bed. - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=aVEB9Tzunl8 #video #invidious #cat #cats [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Henry speaks with no commentary, reminds me to go to bed. - Invidious [22:52] schestowitz MinceR: nice spots [22:53] techrights-news #UbuntuMATE 21.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=xg33QzluwcQ #video #invidious #gnu #linux [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu MATE 21.10 Beta Run Through - Invidious [22:53] techrights-news Alias & Navigate Anywhere On Linux With Goto - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5LJlplxSKIk #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/09/27/#latest [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Alias & Navigate Anywhere On Linux With Goto - Invidious [22:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [22:54] DaemonFC Yeah, write speeds definitely not the best. [22:54] techrights-news A Better Menu For The #GNOMEDesktop - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oGPTErKU0y8 #video #invidious #gnu #linux [22:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | A Better Menu For The GNOME Desktop - Invidious [22:55] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: what scenario? [22:55] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [22:55] DaemonFC Right now it's hovering around 50 MB/s according to GNOME, and falling. [22:55] schestowitz-TR i/o on buster got like 10 times better for me [22:55] DaemonFC Writing Wavpack files to an Ext4 volume over USB 3.2. [22:55] schestowitz-TR but not because of the expected reasons [22:55] schestowitz-TR just ssd and less swapping [22:56] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: I do over 100MB/sec [22:56] DaemonFC 45 and falling. [22:56] schestowitz-TR sometimes 130mb/sec [22:56] DaemonFC On an external hard drive? [22:56] schestowitz-TR over usb3 or maybe usb2 I think [22:56] schestowitz-TR how many files? [22:56] DaemonFC 8,335. [22:56] schestowitz-TR many small files would be slower [22:56] DaemonFC 41.8 and falling. [22:57] schestowitz-TR wait [22:57] schestowitz-TR what do you use? [22:57] schestowitz-TR command line? [22:57] schestowitz-TR or some GUI? [22:57] schestowitz-TR the GUIs slow these things down a lot [22:57] DaemonFC Nautilus. [22:57] schestowitz-TR ah [22:57] schestowitz-TR maybe that's why [22:57] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [22:58] DaemonFC Maybe ExFAT would be better? [22:58] DaemonFC It's a simpler file system without a journal. :/ [22:58] schestowitz-TR ext4 is fast [22:58] schestowitz-TR ecFAT is FAT shit [22:58] DaemonFC 31.7 [22:58] schestowitz-TR called after the CEO [22:59] schestowitz-TR find out which side of the bottlebeck [22:59] schestowitz-TR neck [22:59] DaemonFC The fuck is going on with this. [22:59] schestowitz-TR and identity the actual culprit [22:59] schestowitz-TR maybe it's the sending side [22:59] *m___ (~Adium@mfgnrw6khgqhe.irc) has joined #techrights [22:59] schestowitz-TR and amybe they use different file systems [22:59] schestowitz-TR I bet you still have some windows crap [22:59] schestowitz-TR like ntfs somewhere [22:59] DaemonFC It's from my SSD to the hard disk. ● Sep 27 [23:00] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [23:00] schestowitz-TR if you make ext the default, life will get easier [23:00] DaemonFC Ext4 on both. [23:00] schestowitz-TR hard drive as in magnetic? [23:00] DaemonFC Yes. [23:00] DaemonFC It's a 5400 RPM 4 TB hard drive. [23:00] DaemonFC The read speed isn't horrific I guess. [23:01] DaemonFC I wouldn't want to use this thing for more than running a backup. [23:01] schestowitz-TR on my old laptop I got 10mb/sec [23:01] schestowitz-TR over usb2 [23:01] schestowitz-TR same combination now is like 5-10 times faster [23:02] schestowitz-TR so it depends on some factors [23:02] schestowitz-TR anyway, full drive backup in 25 minutes or 5 hours is a big difference [23:02] DaemonFC According to lspci there's both a USB 2 and USB 3 hub on this laptop, but all of the ports say superspeed. [23:02] schestowitz-TR super is not a measurement unit [23:03] DaemonFC No, and these hard drive companies are shifty about what kind of write speed you should expect. [23:03] techrights-news "Hello and welcome to Episode 431 of Linux in the Ham Shack" https://lhspodcast.info/2021/09/lhs-episode-431-sdr-deep-dive-2/ [23:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lhspodcast.info | LHS Episode #431: SDR++ Deep Dive | Linux in the Ham Shack [23:03] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: so they are like vaccine companies [23:04] schestowitz-TR I spoke to my brother today [23:04] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Seems like USB 2 vs. 3 only makes a HUGE difference on READ speeds. [23:04] schestowitz-TR and he says newspapers were asked not to mention efficacy against 'indian' variant [23:04] schestowitz-TR as suddenly 97% became "65%" [23:04] DaemonFC Because the drives themselves are about as slow as they've always been, but read speeds have bottlenecked on USB 2. [23:04] schestowitz-TR and people would stop rolling up the sleeve [23:04] schestowitz-TR he also knows someone younger than me who got a third shot and was turned upside down, would never take anything again [23:05] DaemonFC 17.5 [23:05] DaemonFC 17.3 [23:05] MinceR Reverse Gravity? [23:05] DaemonFC 17.1 [23:05] DaemonFC Ugh. [23:05] schestowitz-TR maybe last files at end [23:05] DaemonFC 16.9? [23:05] schestowitz-TR typical [23:05] schestowitz-TR it started with large contiguous blocks [23:05] DaemonFC No, 539/8335 [23:05] schestowitz-TR and leave all the crappy bits till the end [23:06] schestowitz-TR try writing in reverse [23:06] schestowitz-TR ssd to magnetic, magnetic to ssd [23:06] DaemonFC Performance within the drive is always better. [23:06] DaemonFC Once you get MOST of your big files TO the drive, you probably just don't feel this sort of pain again. [23:07] DaemonFC I may just switch to Opus, honestly. [23:07] DaemonFC Moving around a huge Wavpack collection is just getting stupid. [23:08] schestowitz DaemonFC passing files round: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKBRWoGvL0 [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Simpsons - Internet King vs. Comic Book Guy - YouTube [23:08] schestowitz Simpsons - Internet King vs. Comic Book Guy - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KSKBRWoGvL0 [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Simpsons - Internet King vs. Comic Book Guy - Invidious [23:10] DaemonFC Oh god, fuck this. [23:10] techrights-news What's left of #nokia after #microsoft killed it for dabbling 'too much' in #gnu #linux https://nitter.eu/NokiaMobile/status/1442443793467330562 [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.eu | Nokia Mobile (@NokiaMobile): "Everything youd expect from a Nokia phone in a tablet. Coming 6.10.21" | nitter [23:11] *DaemonFC goes to convert everything to Opus. [23:12] DaemonFC Bonus, I can probably back it up to the clown when I'm done. [23:12] schestowitz-TR Krusty? [23:12] schestowitz lol https://androidcommunity.com/waydroid-may-introduce-android-apps-to-windows-10-soon-20210927/ [23:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-androidcommunity.com | Waydroid may introduce Android apps to Windows 10 soon - Android Community [23:13] schestowitz microsoft chasing rainbows [23:13] schestowitz they lack software [23:13] schestowitz apple and google became dev targets [23:15] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156175 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [23:15] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 28.50 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 67.01 swarm size (avg): 258.45 [23:16] techrights-news "What even is a "cloud-based recording service"?! The Strato case seems to be about a file storage service, or a remote hard disk." #clowncomputing = #hype and #misleading #buzzwords for #surveillance agenda http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/09/ag-hogan-advises-cjeu-to-rule-that.html?showComment=1632733720515#c8783689231588669237 [23:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | AG Hogan advises CJEU to rule that private copying exception also applies in the cloud but that an additional private copying levy might be unavailable - The IPKat [23:18] techrights-news " #EUIPO to follow suit" https://www.managingip.com/article/b1tqjzcm0tbm4g/uspto-sanctions-spark-demand-for-tough-line-on-filing-farms EUIPO is a deeply corrupt institution and #eu authorities need to place it under investigation http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | USPTO sanctions spark demand for tough line on filing farms | Managing Intellectual Property [23:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights [23:20] techrights-news JUVEntoons writing about (or for) #microsoft #patentTroll #IntellectualVentures https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/intellectual-ventures-suffers-first-instance-defeat-in-paris/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Intellectual_Ventures [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Intellectual Ventures suffers first-instance defeat in Paris - JUVE Patent [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intellectual Ventures - Techrights [23:21] techrights-news What's needed right now is complete annulment of all #covid19 related #patents if public interest is to be served rather than #patent #monopolies https://writtendescription.blogspot.com/2021/09/how-would-proposed-american-pandemic.html [23:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writtendescription.blogspot.com | Written Description: How would the proposed American Pandemic Preparedness Plan help address underinvestment in pandemic-related innovation? [23:23] techrights-news #worldtrademarkreview as #marketing spam and occasional propaganda for corrupt #euipo https://www.worldtrademarkreview.com/patrade-patrade-legal-advokatanpartsselskab they think of themselves as 'journalists??? http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldtrademarkreview.com | Patrade (Patrade Legal Advokatanpartsselskab) | World Trademark Review [23:24] DaemonFC Yeah, reads are at least as fast as the WD. [23:24] DaemonFC So it seems like external hard drives in general just have bad write performance. [23:24] techrights-news Companies that include sites like IAM and #Lexology have basically turned the Web into a spam farm of #litigation companies. This is grotesque. One example: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [23:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [23:24] DaemonFC People on Amazon were complaining about this on this model, because Toshiba doesn't actually state what you can expect. They put the link data speed. [23:25] MinceR (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZGmWZyhac [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Embarrassingly Bad: HP Pavilion $1430 Prebuilt Gaming PC (TG01-1160XT Review) - YouTube [23:25] techrights-news Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, GNOME, Goto, Ubuntu MATE 21.10 Beta, and Destination Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/156176 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Linux in the Ham Shack, GNOME, Goto, Ubuntu MATE 21.10 Beta, and Destination Linux | Tux Machines [23:26] schestowitz Embarrassingly Bad: HP Pavilion $1430 Prebuilt Gaming PC (TG01-1160XT Review) - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=4OZGmWZyhac [23:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Embarrassingly Bad: HP Pavilion $1430 Prebuilt Gaming PC (TG01-1160XT Review) - Invidious [23:28] schestowitz MinceR: sounds a bit like ads [23:28] schestowitz send me x, I will say [23:28] schestowitz y [23:28] *m___ has quit (Quit: Leaving.) [23:29] techrights-news Lawyers won't use proper English. It's all about cheating, misdirecting, and tricking. http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/09/27/dont-try-to-find-in-your-usual-dictionary-what-the-terms-of-the-claim-mean/ [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Don't try to find in your usual dictionary what the terms of the claim mean - Kluwer Patent Blog [23:31] DaemonFC It's going to take about 1 hour and 40 minutes to convert my music to Opus. [23:31] DaemonFC That's with 8 threads. [23:32] techrights-news #hackaday should be wise enough to NOT conflate "intellectual property" (a lie, fiction) with #patents (a real thing) https://hackaday.com/2021/09/27/e3d-on-patents-and-not-being-evil-about-them/ [23:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-E3D On Patents And Not Being Evil About Them | Hackaday [23:32] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: sounds like your collection is very small [23:32] schestowitz-TR unlike felta's pr0n stash [23:33] DaemonFC Garbage bags full of it, hauled into court. [23:33] schestowitz-TR here I have about 10,000 tracks, I think [23:33] DaemonFC In front of his boss from work, which he brought for reasons. [23:34] DaemonFC Seems the clock rate on my cores is peaking at a little over 3.5 Ghz. [23:35] DaemonFC They idle at about 800 Mhz. [23:35] DaemonFC Intel lists "max turbo frequency at 4.7 Ghz". [23:35] schestowitz-TR max turbo [23:35] schestowitz-TR is there an ultra super version of it? [23:37] DaemonFC According to the kernel, Turbo Boost is enabled. [23:37] techrights-news Hey, let's grant #patent #monopolies to cockroaches and furniture too https://inventa.com/en/news/article/681/dabus-the-natural-person-problem #patents [23:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DABUS: the natural person problem - Inventa International [23:38] DaemonFC It's impossible to say if it's working right because Intel is so non-specific about how it works. [23:38] DaemonFC From what I can tell, any frequencies above 3.5 Ghz, round about, are transient at best because they'd burn the damned thing up. [23:38] DaemonFC If you left it there for a while. [23:39] techrights-news Throwing 'investment' money into #blackmail and #litigation such as #patentTrolls (blackmailing companies with court fees, seeking 'protection' money) https://www.iam-media.com/finance/patent-litigation-finance-moves-the-mainstream-splits-opinion-it-does-so typical IAM http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | Patent litigation financemoves into the mainstream, but splits opinion as it does so | IAM [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights [23:39] DaemonFC We've all known for a while that Intel power management on Linux, well, they just don't put as much effort into it. [23:39] DaemonFC So be glad it works basically correct and take your cheese and leave. [23:41] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, I grabbed an Opus compile that was built with ICC for 64-bit Windows. [23:41] DaemonFC This is all being done up by foobar2000. [23:42] DaemonFC Soundconverter's interface is nice, but gstreamer kind of halfassed an Opus encoder of their own. [23:42] DaemonFC It does not work that well. [23:42] techrights-news Convicted corrupt firm and lobbyist for #softwarepatents in #Europe , #MarksClerk , on rejection of #patents for bots (i.e. sanity prevailing in courts, to the chagrin of...) https://www.mondaq.com/uk/patent/1115228/part-1-uk-court-of-appeal-rules-that-an-ai-cannot-be-the-inventor-on-a-patent-application [23:42] DaemonFC Oddly, they just grabbed Lame, so it does MP3 just as well as anything can. [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Part 1: UK Court Of Appeal Rules That An AI Cannot Be The Inventor On A Patent Application - Intellectual Property - UK [23:43] schestowitz-TR grabbed lame? [23:43] schestowitz-TR you mean, hired developers? [23:43] DaemonFC No. [23:43] psydruid would Intel survive if Windows didn't exist and they had to compete with ARM directly? [23:43] DaemonFC They turned LAME into the MP3 encoding profile for Gstreamer. [23:44] schestowitz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3 [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | MP3 - Wikipedia [23:44] schestowitz "LAME is the most advanced MP3 encoder" [23:44] schestowitz-TR TIL mp3 was known as .bit [23:44] schestowitz-TR until 1995 [23:44] DaemonFC schestowitz, It's a little better than the later releases of the FhG/Thomson one. [23:45] DaemonFC The FhG one isn't bad either. It makes an interesting usage of the lowpass filters and it has a different long/short block allocation mechanism from what I can tell. [23:45] DaemonFC It's not open source. [23:45] DaemonFC As far as quality, if you us the FhG one just make sure it says the copyright date is 2008. [23:46] techrights-news Latest on the efforts to bend #patent #law such that it crazily enough covers also #life and #nature as though they're human inventions https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/09/cvc-files-reply-to-toolgen-opposition-to-cvc-preliminary-motion-no-1.html [23:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: CVC Files Reply to ToolGen Opposition to CVC Preliminary Motion No. 1 [23:46] DaemonFC My guess is whoever wrote the psy model for the FhG codec just had different samples they were tuning it with and different listeners. [23:46] DaemonFC So it may not really be possible to say one is "better" as far as output. [23:48] techrights-news Once you get rid of ridiculous and widely misused #buzzwords like "Hey Hi" you realise this is just a matter of whether #patents can be granted to bots, which is a laughable thing (justice prevailed in this case) https://www.technologylawdispatch.com/2021/09/in-the-courts/uk-court-of-appeal-rules-ai-is-not-an-inventor/ [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologylawdispatch.com | UK Court of Appeal rules AI is not an inventor | Technology Law Dispatch [23:49] techrights-news #borisnaro killed like 200,000 Brits already with #COVID19 and now he's killing our economy too https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/26/world/europe/trucker-shortage-britain-visas.html #brexit #tories [23:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | U.K. Offers Thousands of Visas to Foreign Truckers to Ease Driver Shortage - The New York Times [23:49] DaemonFC There's a lot of variables in a listening environment. About all you can control for is the source file. [23:49] DaemonFC MP3 uses up too much space for what it does. [23:50] DaemonFC On a purely technical level, AAC was probably the best format until Opus came along. [23:50] techrights-news Choose a bigot for a Pry Minister, see the brains draining away... #trump #borisnaro [23:50] DaemonFC Vorbis is both too complex and not highly optimized in the official encoder. [23:50] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@ey7efji3spnzk.irc) has joined #techrights [23:51] DaemonFC There was a fork that claimed to do that, but he actually introduced major bugs into it that weren't there to begin with. [23:51] schestowitz-TR mp3 specs and implementations are intentionally bad [23:51] schestowitz-TR they do unnecessarily complex things that add nothing [23:51] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [23:51] schestowitz-TR just so that they can get more software patents [23:51] schestowitz-TR zoobab might know some of the technical details [23:51] schestowitz-TR I never did codec science [23:51] DaemonFC Yes, I was reading over the patents and standards documents and went "Why would you ever do that?". [23:51] schestowitz-TR but went to surrey u. where they do lots of it [23:52] schestowitz-TR and are likely part of these nefarious patent pools [23:54] techrights-news Media of #litigation profiteers does not see this from the eyes of public interest, #science etc. https://www.scottishlegal.com/article/court-of-appeal-rules-that-artificial-intelligence-cannot-be-named-as-inventor-in-patent-application [23:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scottishlegal.com | Court of Appeal rules that artificial intelligence cannot be named as inventor in patent application - Scottish Legal News [23:55] techrights-news #UK Supreme Court Unanimously Upholds Judgment in Favor of #Servier in Unlawful Means Case https://www.sidley.com/en/insights/publications/2021/09/uk-supreme-court-unanimously-upholds-judgment-in-favor-of-servier-in-unlawful-means-case #patent #patents [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.sidley.com/en/insights/publications/2021/09/uk-supreme-court-unanimously-upholds-judgment-in-favor-of-servier-in-unlawful-means-case ) [23:56] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/laws [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Laws [23:56] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: was my distro suggestion ok? [23:58] techrights-news #MiTubo 0.3 brings basic RSS support | Mardy http://www.mardy.it/blog/2021/09/mitubo-03-brings-basic-rss-support.html #mardy #qt #freesw [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mardy.it | MiTubo 0.3 brings basic RSS support | Mardy