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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130968 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f79a8000-9df1-43e6-8dc8-60dc97e2ab06]Nov 27 01:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Plasma Browser Integration 1.7 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130969 [https://pleroma.site/objects/752657f8-9cd0-49a2-9452-5d1780251089]Nov 27 01:24
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Deepin Linux Interview: Huawei, Those Spyware Accusations And Tantalizing Teases For 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130970 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7e33f210-52c1-412f-8c98-69e3f05d3e09]Nov 27 01:25
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Compact, Jetson Nano based embedded computer has five GbE ports http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130972 [https://pleroma.site/objects/900c36c8-7c7c-49fa-b087-9f7237842b1a]Nov 27 01:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenMoji is an Open Source Emoji Set That Looks Awesome http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130973 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9724c283-50e2-48ff-a6d3-d8e88fab192b]Nov 27 01:32
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Issue of Linux Mag (Paywall) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130975 [https://pleroma.site/objects/374aeb66-1b98-4a5f-90d3-ed59a9be4220]Nov 27 02:02
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Trine 3, Tangledeep, Valve and Google Stadia http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130976 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c4568941-63cb-481a-bfe2-f83814c0f14c]Nov 27 02:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130977 [https://pleroma.site/objects/679afeba-7215-4c78-a1f0-33d2f36d0489]Nov 27 02:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical: AWS, Server and Design http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130978 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ca8f830e-96d6-4569-88ff-07af02dcff92]Nov 27 02:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Full Circle Weekly, Linux Headlines, Python Podcase, Linux in the Ham Shack, Zorin OS 15 Lite Overview http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130979 [https://pleroma.site/objects/227f1028-fd60-40e0-bd9e-313d0b565c7b]Nov 27 02:40
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Latest Code/Feature Additions to Linux 5.5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130980 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9a7432d-3881-4859-8db4-b1ab3f840416]Nov 27 02:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: darktable and meetings in Berlin http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130981 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f76ac4ae-a512-469d-bad6-13a773e75cfd]Nov 27 03:04
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU: Guix, GNU Astronomy Utilities (Gnuastro) and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130982 [https://pleroma.site/objects/83d7187b-13af-48d0-84d1-8c98a7c1fdc5]Nov 27 03:31
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: SVG, Raspberry PI and New Developers/Maintainers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130983 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8028da00-d485-416f-a0de-f946babafd45]Nov 27 03:33
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics/Codecs: SVT-AV1 and Mesa 20.0 Development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130984 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1329b27b-1208-48e9-b865-d24951a14dcb]Nov 27 03:59
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yuhongSeems that you are concerned about mjg59 acting like a "Microsoft apologist" even if it is not, right?Nov 27 04:04
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130985 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2f611b03-02ee-4fc2-b366-3802ae1e7a90]Nov 27 04:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: General Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130986 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ad5b5cd8-23ad-469a-82c7-de9bfe95ea52]Nov 27 04:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation: Greg K-H and CNCF http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130987 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51e34ad0-705a-424e-84c7-46e6d1bae503]Nov 27 04:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS: Mastodon and FOSS Around the World http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130988 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d5b747e-78a9-4a8e-854a-95be4a0f7151]Nov 27 04:29
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos and programming bits http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130989 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d5dc5b0c-55c8-4f04-b2c5-7f5e54913480]Nov 27 04:50
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Lutris 0.5.4 Released, Steam Controller, Atari Vault Collection http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130990 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4a5881b4-f0c2-4c4d-84be-b77da079c5b5]Nov 27 04:54
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schestowitzRe: GitHub hosted on AWS> https://www.reddit.com/r/microsoft/comments/e1ymht/why_is_powershell_hosted_on_amazonaws/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmfNov 27 05:18
schestowitz> Nov 27 05:18
schestowitz> 🤣🤣🤣Nov 27 05:18
schestowitz> Nov 27 05:18
schestowitzThey needed something reliableNov 27 05:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Why is powershell hosted on amazonaws? : microsoftNov 27 05:18
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Royal Navy launched an open source toolkit for application development http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130991 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7b08a63b-449d-44e9-ad79-c689b33747fe]Nov 27 07:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Devices: AAEON, ChromeOS/AOPEN, Raspberry Pi and Open Hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130992 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9490b03e-197e-4d91-87f0-c073584a2ffd]Nov 27 07:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FreeBSD Project Quarterly Status Report http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130993 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c37dbe48-685c-48b2-88a6-99441e9d41c8]Nov 27 07:57
oiaohmschestowitz: it also allows Microsoft and Amazon to legally share user information of github.Nov 27 08:02
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/629636.jpgNov 27 08:34
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130994 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4dfa4b4a-2805-49cf-bc55-a87d33ec12d9]Nov 27 09:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM, Red Hat, Fedora and GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130995 [https://pleroma.site/objects/592a01a9-de5e-4e49-a571-e5834d93de05]Nov 27 09:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/11/2019: Kali Linux 2019.4 Release and Plasma Browser Integration 1.7 http://techrights.org/2019/11/27/kali-linux-2019-4/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/c8d635d0-e031-410c-89be-f9cf331def33]Nov 27 09:30
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi 4: Chronicling the Desktop Experience – Office Software – Week 6 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130996 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9253b53c-a0aa-4797-b286-032f7b372005]Nov 27 09:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Why do we contribute to open source software? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130997 [https://pleroma.site/objects/85198b24-ee25-4b3c-a4b6-ef6a5de39799]Nov 27 09:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130998 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3debf3c2-df08-4899-afaf-584ce08187dc]Nov 27 09:50
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zoobabhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-jeremy-corbyn-reveals-451-20970436Nov 27 10:50
zoobabanyone has a copy?Nov 27 10:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Jeremy Corbyn reveals 451 pages of uncensored documents showing 'NHS for sale' - Mirror OnlineNov 27 10:50
schestowitzzoobab: what time the hearing?Nov 27 11:00
zoobabthere was a corbyn live streamNov 27 11:07
zoobabhttps://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1199639469105799173Nov 27 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @jeremycorbyn UK has ratified CETA, which ISDS courts built-in, and which will be used to nullify laws against clim… https://t.co/MtGYxlD8CgNov 27 11:07
zoobabhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEENov 27 11:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Watch Sky News live - YouTubeNov 27 11:08
schestowitzI meant BretonNov 27 11:08
zoobab58:16Nov 27 11:09
zoobabCommission live stream is nowNov 27 11:09
zoobabBut it's a done deal, Greens said they will vote against due to Breton's conflict of interestsNov 27 11:10
schestowitzwaitNov 27 11:11
schestowitzdone deal as in?Nov 27 11:11
schestowitzaccept?Nov 27 11:11
schestowitzreject?Nov 27 11:11
schestowitzall accept except greens?Nov 27 11:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/130999 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51f997aa-f5d0-4fe9-ba94-ce28c78738d1]Nov 27 11:11
rianne_https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/iota-news-contest-for-sustainability-and-update-on-the-cooperation-with-linux/Nov 27 11:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crypto-news-flash.com | IOTA news: Contest for sustainability and update on cooperation with LinuxNov 27 11:17
zoobabI don't know at what time is the voteNov 27 11:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Krita 4.2.8 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131000 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09d2bd13-5af0-4b6c-99cc-044292fa6abb]Nov 27 11:20
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 9 of the Best IoT Projects Using Arduino http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131001 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2428ee7a-0b67-4c92-a4d3-2a0a58704a76]Nov 27 11:58
zoobabhttps://european-pirateparty.eu/european-pirates-voted-against-the-new-european-commission/Nov 27 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-european-pirateparty.eu | European Pirates voted against the new European Commission – European Pirate PartyNov 27 12:01
*schestowitz looksNov 27 12:02
zoobabCommission adoptedNov 27 12:02
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TechrightsBot-trHello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77Nov 27 12:18
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Dota 2 and Quake II RTX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131004 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b7cd15ad-31d1-4a92-91bb-a036e02d421d]Nov 27 12:23
zoobabHERE: Nov 27 12:26
zoobabhttps://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1199639721611276288Nov 27 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@faisalislam: Quite the leak this - the entire proceedings of the rather secretive UK-US Trade and Investment Working Group... bo… https://t.co/mprdtzrN7vNov 27 12:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@faisalislam: Quite the leak this - the entire proceedings of the rather secretive UK-US Trade and Investment Working Group... bo… https://t.co/mprdtzrN7vNov 27 12:26
zoobabah noNov 27 12:27
zoobabthis is not a leakNov 27 12:27
schestowitzthe mirror is not accurateNov 27 12:31
schestowitzit is a tabloidNov 27 12:32
schestowitzand it's in labour's pocketsNov 27 12:32
zoobabsearching for the PDF leakNov 27 12:32
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: Radeon, DRM in Wayland/Weston and X.Org's Modesetting Driver Gets Smarter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131005 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dffbeefd-6fc1-4cf7-b1d6-55403f1c9a01]Nov 27 12:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Free Software Foundation (FSF) and Its European Charter's Newsletter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131006 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8402c32a-45ce-4cee-9f90-1b93871a2028]Nov 27 12:40
schestowitzworking in techrightsdb, will be back online shortlyNov 27 12:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Some Open Source Android Applications that Available on Google Play! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131007 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2fa0fad8-4ad4-432e-889f-b33abd9d55e4]Nov 27 12:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: linux-5.4-ck1, MuQSS version 0.196 for linux-5.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131008 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3f5d32c1-4cfd-4f10-af4a-5d114f463468]Nov 27 12:56
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Linux 5.5 Development and Bug 'Affecting at Least Golang Programs' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131009 [https://pleroma.site/objects/57dae7e8-eda0-478a-8492-42bebf706815]Nov 27 13:05
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Stardew Valley, Football Story, World of Warcraft Classic and Book of Travels http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131011 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4edb675a-4077-4e33-b189-6bbb5ef29669]Nov 27 16:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Proxmox Mail Gateway 6.1 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131012 [https://pleroma.site/objects/daef6ef8-3615-42e6-b50b-61d6d6fb4e5a]Nov 27 17:02
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New Videos/Audiocasts/Shows: 4 Reasons Why I Don't Like Ubuntu, System7 Review, LINUX Unplugged and mintCast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131013 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ef6eb1b0-c140-47b9-afc6-7f75549d9353]Nov 27 17:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Open Source Music Notations Software Musescore 3.3 Released! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131014 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5f3d4601-1e2c-496c-acf0-7cf928f908ec]Nov 27 17:28
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Timekpr-nExT Is A Linux Parental Control Program For Limiting Computer Usage http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131015 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f3fcb9e9-de65-4401-94ff-803db4ec5495]Nov 27 17:37
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Rust, Qt / QML, Kenya Society for the Blind, Perl and Python http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131016 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a7018bf6-a34a-42a1-bf34-0d96d02bf932]Nov 27 17:55
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: HP X2 10 Work, Nonfree Binary Blobs in Flatpak, SAP Promotion and Openwashing With CentOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131017 [https://pleroma.site/objects/df0bba95-b35b-4280-823c-9f7099c0c5a4]Nov 27 18:00
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MinceRthis hp probook 650 g2 is now officially the shittiest laptop i've ever usedNov 27 18:35
schestowitzwhich year is it from?Nov 27 18:39
schestowitztoday a red hat employee posted about hp issueNov 27 18:39
schestowitz[18:00] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: Red Hat: HP X2 10 Work, Nonfree Binary Blobs in Flatpak, SAP Promotion and Openwashing With CentOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131017 [https://pleroma.site/objects/df0bba95-b35b-4280-823c-9f7099c0c5a4]Nov 27 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Red Hat: HP X2 10 Work, Nonfree Binary Blobs in Flatpak, SAP Promotion and Openwashing With CentOS | Tux MachinesNov 27 18:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaNov 27 18:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/11/2019: Proxmox Mail Gateway 6.1 and Krita 4.2.8 http://techrights.org/2019/11/27/proxmox-mail-gateway-6-1/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/1b9f2fb3-22d0-4c4e-9933-31f1deb49e90]Nov 27 18:41
MinceRprobably 2016, though the display is more like it's from 2006Nov 27 18:42
DaemonFC[m]Daniel Peterson: Walmart is starting to carry AGM batteries.Nov 27 18:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Split or Merge PDFs with PDFsam Basic, an open source program for Windows, Linux and macOS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131019 [https://pleroma.site/objects/456e33e0-5a9a-4563-8e3b-8ef471ed571b]Nov 27 18:44
DaemonFC[m]They're the exact same as Champion at Pep Boys, but the sticker says "EverStart Platinum".Nov 27 18:44
DaemonFC[m]Oddly, you could get one for a Crown Victoria, but not an Impala.Nov 27 18:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 300+ Benchmarks With AMD Threadripper 3960X vs. Intel Core i9 10980XE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131020 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7ad5198c-967a-4dd9-8c43-308869c19925]Nov 27 18:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 19.10: It’s fast, like “make old hardware feel new” fast http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131021 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c1e023a8-b024-460d-8e0e-9124a1a4c036]Nov 27 18:47
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PinePhone goes on sale for $150 and Ubuntu Touch ports to the Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131023 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3c213a5d-9f98-40fb-9018-68ffe40a0eb5]Nov 27 19:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: You've Come a Long Way, Linux-Baby http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/131024 [https://pleroma.site/objects/03fb20a1-2423-46ce-852e-c60d0213bb3b]Nov 27 19:16
schestowitzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDLErVsbSRINov 27 19:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cute baby animals Videos Compilation cute moment of the animals - Cutest Animals #1 - YouTubeNov 27 19:38
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XRevan86MinceR: What's so special about it?Nov 27 20:04
XRevan86MinceR: Does it at least have the impossible to disable kind of Secure Boot?Nov 27 20:05
MinceRno, but it does have legacy boot that doesn't workNov 27 20:05
MinceRyou can enable it and that's thatNov 27 20:05
MinceRdevices won't even show up in the menuNov 27 20:06
XRevan86MinceR: Which BIOS vendor does it use?Nov 27 20:06
MinceRalso, there's apparently no way to set the backlight brightness from a real OSNov 27 20:06
MinceRdunno, i'll check tomorrowNov 27 20:06
MinceRit also can't suspend reliablyNov 27 20:06
MinceRon winblows, it just never comes backNov 27 20:06
MinceRon GNU/Linux, it comes back, but networking no longer worksNov 27 20:07
XRevan86MinceR: About backlight, did you make sure it's not something trivial like wrong autodetection?Nov 27 20:07
XRevan86i.e. that there is no /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness that does in fact workNov 27 20:08
XRevan86+ https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight#Kernel_command-line_optionsNov 27 20:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | Backlight - ArchWikiNov 27 20:09
MinceRdunnoNov 27 20:10
MinceRon all my other laptops, either just pressing fn+whatever works, or xbacklight worksNov 27 20:10
MinceRon this piece of shit, neither of those workNov 27 20:10
XRevan86MinceR: On a new distro autodetection really should work fine, but I guess that can still happenNov 27 20:13
XRevan86MinceR: Does it have two graphic cards?Nov 27 20:14
MinceRno, just an intel oneNov 27 20:15
XRevan86MinceR: About networking, make sure it's not logind/pm-utils' faultNov 27 20:17
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XRevan86maybe there isn't a hook for whichever tool you use for network configurationNov 27 20:18
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MinceRno, i couldn't get it to connect again with the toolNov 27 20:19
XRevan86or for waking the network card up, but I don't know how that worksNov 27 20:19
MinceRneither does hpNov 27 20:22
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XRevan86MinceR: I'd try finding the relevant kernel module and unload/reload it.Nov 27 20:32
XRevan86if that works (probably will), then… I don't know, an acpid rule maybeNov 27 20:33
XRevan86MinceR: Though you probably need rfkillNov 27 20:35
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XRevan86though noNov 27 20:36
oiaohmMinceR: so you have the fun of a HP laptop with screwed up firmware.Nov 27 20:57
oiaohmI loved the one web cam in one HP.Nov 27 20:57
MinceRi put a post-it index over the webcamNov 27 20:57
MinceRit doesn't even have a warning lightNov 27 20:58
oiaohmwho would think you would have a usb web cam that with a brlight flash of light would pretend to be a keyboard with ctrl alt delete stuck down.Nov 27 20:58
oiaohmOf course you end up unpluging a web cam like that.Nov 27 20:59
MinceR:)Nov 27 20:59
oiaohmBad firmware blobs can do all kinds of strangeness to you.Nov 27 21:00
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MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/31/b4c73c86c82e8262.jpgNov 27 21:55
XRevan86MinceR: One of those brain-dying pre-death hallucinations?Nov 27 21:56
XRevan86> may cause irritation of the digestive tract, and dust from the beads may cause irritation to the skin and eyesNov 27 21:57
MinceR:>Nov 27 21:57
XRevan86curses, it's not lethal, just irritatingNov 27 21:58
MinceRfoiled againNov 27 21:58
MinceRthen again, everything we experience in our lives is pre-deathNov 27 21:59
MinceR[edgy kid meme]Nov 27 21:59
XRevan86after the 3 panel: 60 years laterNov 27 21:59
XRevan86and just one millisecond in The Real WorldNov 27 22:01
XRevan86[very unedgy Narnia reference]Nov 27 22:02
MinceR:>Nov 27 22:02
MinceRif it's unedgy, then it's... https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/762/263/14d.gifNov 27 22:03
XRevan86central?Nov 27 22:03
XRevan86MinceR: Technically incorrectNov 27 22:04
MinceRthe best kind of incorrect.Nov 27 22:04
XRevan86edginess refers to a concept being on the edge, not of having edgesNov 27 22:04
MinceRstrangeNov 27 22:04
XRevan86The opposite of being on the edge is being at the centreNov 27 22:04
MinceRi could have sworn "edgy" literally means "having an edge"Nov 27 22:05
XRevan86maybe I'm conflating with cutting edge stuff :)Nov 27 22:05
XRevan86https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/edgy#Related_terms "on edge" – at least that's somewhere in the vicinityNov 27 22:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | edgy - WiktionaryNov 27 22:06
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XRevan86> 3. (entertainment, advertising) On the edge between acceptable and offensive; pushing the boundaries of good taste; risqué.Nov 27 22:07
XRevan86that's the oneNov 27 22:07
MinceRthere are also senses 5 and 6Nov 27 22:07
MinceRand nowadays often used in sense 8Nov 27 22:07
XRevan86I'd say that 8 is an extension of 3Nov 27 22:08
MinceRso it turns out what i said above was technically correctNov 27 22:08
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/PpV0evc.pngNov 27 22:08
XRevan86MinceR: No, as the edge is still externalNov 27 22:09
XRevan86"having an edge" is differentNov 27 22:09
MinceRa sphere is both as blunt as possible and lacking sharp definitionNov 27 22:10
XRevan86But a sphere can still be on the edgeNov 27 22:10
XRevan86"having an edge" I see as "having multiple angles"Nov 27 22:11
XRevan86or is it more of a sharpness deal?Nov 27 22:13
XRevan86like the sense 4, as it's clearly about having an edgeNov 27 22:13
XRevan86so like stingyNov 27 22:15
MinceRthat's a point, isn't it?Nov 27 22:16
MinceRthe one with which stinging is possibleNov 27 22:16
XRevan86stabby-pointyNov 27 22:16
MinceRhurtyNov 27 22:16
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/10/31/429aa75f156c5f93.mp4Nov 27 22:17
XRevan86MinceR: If it's a *sharp* edge, then it must be quite unpleasant to have contact withNov 27 22:17
*XRevan86 checked the dictionary, the term is "acute"Nov 27 22:18
XRevan86crap, why did I think "sharp" works too?Nov 27 22:18
MinceRa cute angleNov 27 22:18
XRevan86apart from that it's the literal translation from Russian -_-Nov 27 22:19
XRevan86sharp and dull anglesNov 27 22:19
MinceRsame in hungarianNov 27 22:19
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharp_angle or maybe it does work…Nov 27 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sharp angle - WikipediaNov 27 22:20
MinceReven latin acutus means sharpNov 27 22:20
MinceRwhich reminds me... https://atariage.com/forums/uploads/monthly_07_2017/blogentry-1196-0-26763200-1501373924.pngNov 27 22:20
XRevan86> Latin obtūsus (“blunt, dull; obtuse”),Nov 27 22:20
XRevan86MinceR: Something about dying from sharp teeth?Nov 27 22:21
XRevan86large sharp teethNov 27 22:21
MinceRit's intended to be something like "death awaits you with big pointy teeth", but allegedly it's incorrectNov 27 22:21
MinceRthe original would of course be "death awaits you all - with nasty, big, pointy teeth!"Nov 27 22:22
XRevan86https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tooth_sharpening TILNov 27 22:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human tooth sharpening - WikipediaNov 27 22:23
XRevan86> Ota Benga was a Congolese pygmy imported to a zoo in the United StatesNov 27 22:24
XRevan86> imported to a zooNov 27 22:24
XRevan86> William Hornaday, director of the zoo, initially enlisted Benga to help maintain the animal habitats. However, Hornaday saw that people took more notice of Benga than the animals at the zoo, and he eventually created an exhibition to feature Benga. At the zoo, the Mbuti man was allowed to roam the grounds, but there is no record that he was ever paid for his work.Nov 27 22:26
XRevan86MinceR: Acutie teethNov 27 22:38
XRevan86MinceR: I guess we can settle on that "edgy" can support various interpretationsNov 27 22:39
MinceRindeedNov 27 22:41
XRevan86No matter if you stand on the edge of subtlety or you stab with your edge of obnoxiousnessNov 27 22:41
XRevan86https://mastodon.sdf.org/users/salixlucida/statuses/103204905537351161Nov 27 22:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.sdf.org | Cat-as-a-Service: "Fuckin' right!" - Mastodon @ SDFNov 27 22:53
MinceRfuckin' ANov 27 23:10
XRevan86at least it's not a Tubular SaleNov 27 23:11
XRevan86(unless it's literally a tubular sale)Nov 27 23:11
MinceRor radicalNov 27 23:12
XRevan86radicals are hard to sellNov 27 23:13
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