●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Thursday, January 28, 2021 ●● ● Jan 28 [00:00] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:00] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:02] techrights-bot #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146963 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:07] techrights-bot Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146964 #freesw [00:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:10] techrights-bot Devices and #OpenHardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146965 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/28/#latest [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Devices and Open Hardware | Tux Machines [00:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Index of /2021/01/28/ [00:13] techrights-bot Ubuntu: Design and Web, #Kubernetes , and More of #Canonical http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146966 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/28/#latest [00:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu: Design and Web, Kubernetes, and More of Canonical | Tux Machines [00:17] techrights-bot #IBM / #RedHat / #Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146967 #GNU #Linux [00:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines [00:20] techrights-bot Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146969 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [00:20] *tr_guest|43420 (6b4ddf6f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.107.77.223.111) has joined #techrights [00:21] *tr_guest|43420 has quit (Client Quit) [00:23] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:23] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [00:26] techrights-bot Links 28/1/2021: Stable Kernels and #Sudo Bugfixes s http://techrights.org/2021/01/27/sudo-bugfixes/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [00:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/1/2021: Stable Kernels and Sudo Bugfixes | Techrights [00:29] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146970 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [00:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [00:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.85 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.60 swarm size (avg): 337.75 [00:47] *vZS1_2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:47] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [00:48] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [00:57] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [00:58] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights ● Jan 28 [01:02] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [01:15] *tr_guest|27572 (44651a52@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.101.26.82) has joined #techrights [01:15] *tr_guest|27572 has quit (Client Quit) [01:16] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [01:16] *Snuupy has quit (Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)) [01:16] *Snuupy (~Snuupy@unaffiliated/snuupy) has joined #techrights [01:16] DaemonFC[m] Trump and Scott Atlas pushing "herd immunity" only had to throw away 500,000 Americans to get us to 12%, per CNN. 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[02:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 [02:42] techrights-bot *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-01-27.txt [02:59] *rianne__ has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Jan 28 [03:00] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [03:00] techrights-ipfs IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 19 MB TotalOut: 8.5 MB [03:00] techrights-ipfs New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: [03:01] techrights-ipfs QmRtM5chAUzYL92tBPtEGH1PaX3X7PknpoBDpieD7Um3bm [03:02] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:06] *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [03:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.86 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.96 swarm size (avg): 334.74 [03:55] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) ● Jan 28 [04:26] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [04:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.18 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.96 swarm size (avg): 338.87 [04:40] schestowitz very weird: [04:40] schestowitz is Twitter censoring searches for things that link to techrights.org? [04:40] schestowitz I never saw anything like this before: they return an empty set at https://twitter.com/search?q=techrights.org&src=typed_query&f=live [04:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=techrights.org&src=typed_query&f=live ) [04:41] schestowitz maybe a technical error/glitch at Twitter, though that would need demonstrating [04:41] schestowitz other domains do return results [04:43] schestowitz It is not unthinkable Twitter does something secretly to discourage people accessing the site, citing "Reasons" [04:43] schestowitz as many people seem to be pointing other people to our article articles about Bill Gates [04:43] schestowitz while media (hours ago) hailed him as Mister Planet, calling for World World-like mobilisation [04:44] schestowitz rianne saw that in sites she regularly reads, in the front page even (Gates says.....) ● Jan 28 [05:08] schestowitz no results in https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23deletegithub&src=typed_query [05:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23deletegithub&src=typed_query ) [05:08] schestowitz unless I log in [05:09] schestowitz something ain't right(R) [05:09] schestowitz it could, of course, be just a technical glitch [05:12] *oarion7 (anonymous@gateway/vpn/airvpn/oarion7) has joined #techrights [05:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.70 swarm size (avg): 338.04 [05:38] *xvx has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [05:42] DaemonFC[m] https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2021-01-27/government-support-needed-to-drive-global-economic-recovery-imf-says [05:42] DaemonFC[m] In countries that get IMF loans, tuberculosis deaths soar. [05:42] schestowitz IMF... [05:42] schestowitz loans... [05:42] schestowitz who from? [05:42] schestowitz the US? [05:42] DaemonFC[m] They don't mention that. [05:42] schestowitz no. [05:42] schestowitz US has its own debt [05:42] DaemonFC[m] XDRs. [05:42] schestowitz they outsource public resources and power to data brokers in offshore islands [05:42] schestowitz what a racket [05:43] DaemonFC[m] Each country has to put XDRs on deposit. [05:43] schestowitz people like Musk and Gates [05:43] schestowitz eating up public money (debt) [05:43] DaemonFC[m] The US has taken IMF loans before. [05:43] DaemonFC[m] In 1978. [05:43] DaemonFC[m] We got a Fed chair who was a real idiot and completely fucked things up in just a year and a half. [05:44] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [05:45] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [05:45] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [05:46] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: can you help me test something? [05:46] schestowitz more on topic [05:46] schestowitz see the above 2 URLs [05:47] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: China has proposed using Special Drawing Rights as a "reserve currency" before. Probably not now. [05:47] schestowitz I think Twitter either has a glitch or is censoring us covertly [05:47] DaemonFC[m] They managed to rope in Europe and turn them into a thrall. [05:47] schestowitz let's leave IMF out of it for now [05:47] schestowitz it's not our focus [05:48] schestowitz [22:28] x https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-26/microsoft-sales-top-projections-lifted-by-robust-cloud-demand [05:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [05:48] schestowitz [22:28] # probably just cooking the books some more [05:48] DaemonFC[m] I can see your posts on there. [05:48] schestowitz "Clown" [05:48] schestowitz everything Microsoft is clown now [05:48] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: can you see that in t https://twitter.com/search?q=techrights.org&src=typed_query&f=live [05:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=techrights.org&src=typed_query&f=live ) [05:48] schestowitz I get empty [05:48] DaemonFC[m] No results for "techrights.org" [05:50] schestowitz OK, not just me then [05:50] schestowitz are you logged in? [05:50] schestowitz (not that it should matter) [05:52] *blep has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [05:53] *blep (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/blep) has joined #techrights ● Jan 28 [06:02] DaemonFC[m] Yeah, logged in. [06:08] schestowitz so I think they might be censoring on domain [06:08] schestowitz not user [06:08] schestowitz I checked based on user, no apparent shadowban [06:08] schestowitz 24 hours ago it definitely worked OK [06:11] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [06:15] DaemonFC[m] They probably have all sorts of ways to make sure people don't see things. [06:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.70 swarm size (avg): 335.60 [06:35] schestowitz what about deletegithub? [06:35] schestowitz can you reproduce in the US datacentres? [06:36] schestowitz if I accuse them of censorship I want to make sure it is not merely a glitch [06:36] schestowitz [05:08] no results in https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23deletegithub&src=typed_query [06:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23deletegithub&src=typed_query ) [06:37] schestowitz https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=mVsSYNDiIou8UqL3g4gN&q=deletegithub&oq=deletegithub&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQA1AHWAdgQWgAcAB4AIABAIgBAJIBAJgBAKABAqABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiQk9Dxgb7uAhULnhQKHaL7ANEQ4dUDCAk&uact=5 [06:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deletegithub - Google Search [06:37] schestowitz top result is #deletegithub hashtag on Twitter [06:37] schestowitz Twitter says: "No results for "#deletegithub"" [06:38] schestowitz unless you are logged in [06:38] schestowitz so something isn't right [06:38] schestowitz https://twitter.com/search?q=%23goldendawnald&src=typed_query [06:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23goldendawnald&src=typed_query ) [06:39] schestowitz This one drops ALL results for anything I posted [06:39] schestowitz it only shows people other than me [06:39] schestowitz Twitter is basically a censorship machine [06:40] schestowitz same in https://twitter.com/search?q=%23clowncomputing&src=typed_query [06:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23clowncomputing&src=typed_query ) [06:40] schestowitz all my posts missing from there [06:40] schestowitz if you are logged out at least [06:40] schestowitz Same here: https://twitter.com/search?q=%23SUEPO&src=typed_query [06:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23SUEPO&src=typed_query ) [06:40] schestowitz everything except my [06:40] schestowitz except my "tweets" [06:41] schestowitz If you click "Latest", then you can see me (logged off) [06:41] schestowitz but they clearly have their HEY HI "algorithms" dropping me from results [06:41] schestowitz and techrights likewise [06:41] schestowitz the pattern is now clear [06:42] schestowitz as that depends on whether you choose "Top", "Latest", am logged in, or not logged in [06:42] schestowitz which I guess gives them more leeway for excuses [06:42] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) [06:43] schestowitz I think it is fascinating that the domain techrights.org is subjected to that at the same time [06:43] schestowitz as if someone manually switched some things "off" [06:43] schestowitz techrights.org OK [06:43] schestowitz techrights.org not OK when logged in [06:43] schestowitz techrights.com always OK [06:44] schestowitz https://twitter.com/search?q=boycottnovell.com&src=typed_query&f=live does yield results [06:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=boycottnovell.com&src=typed_query&f=live ) [06:44] schestowitz so someone is clearly f'ing around with the site/user [06:45] schestowitz Maybe because of "tweets" like these https://twitter.com/weaponizedword1/status/1246530373745549313 [06:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weaponizedword1: @jamelholley Or what Bill Gates did with the HPV vaccine in India. https://t.co/X68lFBY99H https://t.co/NdQctffgm8 [06:45] schestowitz In the name of "combating misinformation" they can now sanction people [06:47] schestowitz And surely enough (I have just checked) traffic or "impression" on the tweets is also down by maybe 50% [06:47] schestowitz which is probably what they wanted [06:47] schestowitz just enough leeway and doubt to deny censorship [06:48] schestowitz social control and mass propaganda tools "at scale"... we get to define what people see and don't see, irrespective of who and what they "follow"... [06:48] schestowitz because "riot" or "misinformation" or whatnot... [06:48] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [06:48] schestowitz Wikileaks complained about the same thing in Twitter years ago [06:48] schestowitz as did some lawyers and allies of wikileaks [06:48] schestowitz Twitter is hiding their "tweets" [06:49] schestowitz Awful advice BTW: https://twitter.com/weaponizedword1/status/1246530373745549313 [06:50] schestowitz wrong URL, sorry [06:50] schestowitz Awful advice BTW: https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-android-guest-mode/ as if Google/Android cares about your privacy [06:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Use Android Guest Mode When Passing Your Devices to Others [06:50] schestowitz fake privacy [06:50] schestowitz for gullible people [06:50] schestowitz they don't even respect your preferences re toggling of "location" ● Jan 28 [07:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.70 swarm size (avg): 333.19 ● Jan 28 [08:27] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [08:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 24.71 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 15.70 swarm size (avg): 330.81 [08:35] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [08:37] vZS1 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/27/poland-to-implement-near-total-ban-on-abortion-imminently [08:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Poland to implement near-total ban on abortion imminently | Poland | The Guardian [08:37] vZS1 Look at the size of that [08:37] schestowitz the page? [08:38] schestowitz TR boycotts 'guardian' [08:38] schestowitz it's also full of spyware [08:38] schestowitz like 30+ trackers [08:38] schestowitz to read a few paragraphs, maybe with one photograph [08:38] vZS1 No [08:38] vZS1 The protest [08:38] schestowitz that wasn't on the Brexit posters [08:39] schestowitz they prefer some footage from Turkey [08:39] vZS1 I'm no fan of guardian either [08:40] vZS1 Just sharing a link I was sent [08:42] vZS1 Nobody expected over 400,000 people to turn up across the nation. Not even Poles [08:42] vZS1 It happened spontaneously after the court ruling became public [08:42] vZS1 Over 2-3 hours [08:44] vZS1 But we have some trolls here saying "foreign influence" [08:46] vZS1 The Polish government couldn't hide this so now they're hesitant about the decision [08:47] vZS1 schestowitz: #strongandstable [08:49] schestowitz BUT CORONA [08:49] schestowitz "go back home, peasants" [08:49] schestowitz "you are KILLING grandma" [08:49] vZS1 I didn't sleep much last night because I was coordinating some of their comms [08:51] vZS1 There were also meetings about reducing consumption of beef and milk [08:51] vZS1 LGBTQ+ rights [08:51] vZS1 All kinds of things [08:51] vZS1 None of which showed up in the "news" [08:52] schestowitz I have a video related to this [08:52] schestowitz soon [08:52] schestowitz uploading [08:53] vZS1 Thank you [08:53] schestowitz But about Twitter [08:53] schestowitz related to the above [08:53] schestowitz it talks about broader context [08:53] schestowitz social control media [08:55] vZS1 They're already slandering the protestors on social control media [08:55] techrights-bot #Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, January 27, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [08:55] techrights-bot #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [08:55] vZS1 But you can't hide reality for long [08:55] techrights-bot " #Arduino also had a software announcement to go along with Portenta Vision shield hardware, as the company has teamed up with OpenMV to make the OpenMV IDE compatible with the new shield." https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/01/28/arduino-portenta-h7-embedded-vision-shield-with-ethernet-or-lora-connectivity/ [08:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arduino Portenta H7 Gets Embedded Vision Shield with Ethernet or LoRa Connectivity [08:56] techrights-bot "the campaign for European public code and the one about Users freedom, and routers, deserve the greatest attention by the general public." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/01/your-money-your-public-software.-and-router-too/ [08:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Your money, your public software. And router too | Stop at Zona-M [08:56] techrights-bot #twitter seems to be covertly censoring me personally and #techrights as a domain. I'm gathering more data (evidence) on that before writing about it. #censorship #socialcontrolmedia [08:56] techrights-bot #twiiter [n.]): #imperialistic #censorship site with the word "social" slapped onto it... and a picture of a bird. [08:57] techrights-bot #Datamation seems to be nowadays overrun by #microsoft propagandist Enderle. Sad to see it coming to that... [08:57] techrights-bot As I've said for years, explicitly and publicly, terms like "deep state" (or similar) got hijacked by #trump and other lunatics, making the discussion about such topics (or the vocabulary) all toxic and subjected to ridicule. Seems like a pattern... (same for integrity of 'voting' machines with OS back doors) [08:58] vZS1 Not OS, Malfunctioning system [08:58] vZS1 MalS [08:59] vZS1 Like malice [08:59] vZS1 Lol ● Jan 28 [09:00] techrights-bot The race to #patent nature and life carried on, boosted by the #lobbies of #lawyers and patent #profiteers https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/01/ptab-grants-cvc-motion-for-marraffini-deposition.html [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: PTAB Grants CVC Motion for Marraffini Deposition [09:00] techrights-bot Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn #Eiffel #programming https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-free-tutorials-learn-eiffel/ [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excellent Free Tutorials to Learn Eiffel - LinuxLinks [09:01] techrights-bot #ibm has just (once again) outsourced to #proprietarySoftware #monopoly #github https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/boa-not-just-for-rocket-scientists/ IBM is NOT competing with #Microsoft but helping it [09:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Introducing IBM Bayesian Optimization Accelerator IBM Developer [09:02] techrights-bot #ibm is also propping up #proprietarySoftware #slack (not only IMPOSING it on IBM employees). What an awful place to be... https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/kubesummit-cfp/ [09:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | Submit a talk to KubeSummit 2021 India South Asia Virtual IBM Developer [09:02] schestowitz just finished patching my raspi here [09:02] schestowitz the ipfs one [09:02] schestowitz it failed the first time [09:02] schestowitz timeout [09:03] techrights-bot #EasyOS Dunfell 2.6.1 released for x86_64 PC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146979 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS Dunfell 2.6.1 released for x86_64 PC | Tux Machines [09:03] techrights-bot #parted 3.4 released [stable] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146977 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | parted-3.4 released [stable] | Tux Machines [09:05] techrights-bot #NomadBSD 1.4 Working On An Improved Installer, Better Driver Detection http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146920#comment-27997 #bsd #unix [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The first release candidate of NomadBSD 1.4 is now available! | Tux Machines [09:05] techrights-bot Kernel: LWNs Latest and #IOuring Patches http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146976 #Kernel #Linux [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: LWN's Latest and IO_uring Patches | Tux Machines [09:05] techrights-bot Stable Kernels: 5.10.11, 5.4.93, and 4.19.171 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146972 #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines [09:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.11, 5.4.93, and 4.19.171 | Tux Machines [09:07] techrights-bot #RISCV based SoC is 5G basestaton on a chip http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146971 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RISC-V based SoC is 5G basestaton on a chip | Tux Machines [09:07] techrights-bot Quick Look at #Redcore Linux 2101 Beta http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146980 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Quick Look at Redcore Linux 2101 Beta | Tux Machines [09:08] techrights-bot Audiocasts/Shows: Coder Radio, #TLLTS , and #FLOSSWeekly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146981 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Coder Radio, TLLTS, and FLOSS Weekly | Tux Machines [09:09] techrights-bot #IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 s http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/irc-log-270121/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 | Techrights [09:09] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [09:09] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146973 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines [09:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:11] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:14] techrights-bot Contributing to #KDE is easier than you think Bug triaging http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146982 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Contributing to KDE is easier than you think Bug triaging | Tux Machines [09:14] techrights-bot #Wayland 1.19 Released With Small Protocol Updates, Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146974 #Graphics #Linux [09:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wayland 1.19 Released With Small Protocol Updates, Fixes | Tux Machines [09:15] techrights-bot An unpleasant #sudo vulnerability http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146917#comment-27992 [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Another Sudo Root Privilege Escalation Vulnerability Got Patched, Update Now | Tux Machines [09:15] techrights-bot Installing Debian on modern hardware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146975 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #Debian [09:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Installing Debian on modern hardware | Tux Machines [09:19] techrights-bot Top 20 Uses of GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146978 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 20 Uses of Linux | Tux Machines [09:20] techrights-bot First Look at #MXLinux #Fluxbox on the Raspberry Pi 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146968 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | First Look at MX Linux Fluxbox on the Raspberry Pi 4 | Tux Machines [09:20] techrights-bot #Twitter is Hiding #Techrights and Partly Shadowbans Yours Truly s http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/twitter-censorship-regime/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux [09:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter is Hiding Techrights and Partly Shadowbans Yours Truly | Techrights [09:20] schestowitz vZS1: ^ [09:23] vZS1 Getting on the computer [09:31] *vZS1_2 (~vZS1_2@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [09:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 23.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.78 swarm size (avg): 329.16 [09:35] vZS1_2 schestowitz: I shared a hashtag! I shared a post! I'm an activist! /s [09:38] vZS1_2 That's what they want "activism" to devolve into. Instead of mass gatherings that you can't censor. [09:49] vZS1_2 It all came crashing down for them in Poland last night. [09:49] vZS1_2 So there is always hope. ● Jan 28 [10:01] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:12] karolyi[m] what happened in Poland last night? [10:17] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146983 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [10:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [10:19] schestowitz vZS1_2: fyi [10:19] schestowitz [10:19] ok for now but TB 78 will not import any of my OpenPGP keys :( [10:20] schestowitz [10:19] imported keys but because of the varied e-mail addresses, tb 78 won't [10:20] schestowitz [10:19] let me use your current key. Working on figuring out how. [10:20] schestowitz [10:19] There is no key for your s@ address [10:20] schestowitz [10:19] I can see that the "designers" of this UI have nver actually used [10:20] schestowitz [10:19] PGP as there are too many clicks involved and no markers showing [10:20] schestowitz [10:19] a message will be encrypted. [10:20] schestowitz This issue was discussed in IRC before; they led me to sending messages without encryption, to people whose keys I already had. I ended up toggling an option to always encrypt, every message, and warn me if this is not possible. [10:21] vZS1_2 I don't trust any GUI with my PGP keys of any sort. [10:21] schestowitz Microsoft uses GUIs to undermine underlying crypto [10:22] vZS1_2 I advise everyone else to do the same [10:22] schestowitz e.g. sending the private key to Microsoft "clown" [10:22] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [10:23] schestowitz NEWS #EricHameleers # Google muzzles all Chromium browsers on 15 March 2021 https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/google-muzzles-all-chromium-browsers-on-15-march-2021/ [10:23] schestowitz
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    Google muzzles all Chromium browsers on 15 March 2021
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    [10:23] vZS1_2 They can keylog you easily as well. [10:23] schestowitz

    Now, what Google wants to do is limit the access to and usage of these Google services to only the software they themselves publish i.e. Google Chrome. They are going to deny access to Googles Cloud Services for all 3rd-party Chromium products (i.e. any binary software not distributed by Google).

    [10:23] schestowitz

    Understand that there are many derivative browsers out there based on the Open Source Chromium codebase currently using a Google API key to access and use Google Cloud services. I am not talking about just the Chromium packages which you will find for most Linux distros and which are maintained by distro packagers. But also commercial and non-commercial products that offer browser-like features [10:23] schestowitz or interface and use an embedded version of Chromium to enable these capabilities. The whole Google Cloud ecosystem which is accessible using Google API Keys is built into the core of Chromium source code all that these companies had to do was hack & compile the Chromium code, request their own API key and let the users of their (non-)commercial product store all their private data on Googles Cloud.

    [10:23] schestowitz

    Google does not like it that 3rd parties use their infrastructure to store user data Google cannot control. So they decided to deliver a blanket strike not considering the differences in usage, simply killing everything that is not Google.

  • [10:24] schestowitz this is where it's all going [10:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Google muzzles all Chromium browsers on 15 March 2021 | Alien Pastures [10:24] schestowitz openwashing [10:24] schestowitz and software you cannot trust and verify [10:24] schestowitz vZS1_2: with enigmail they used an external application [10:24] schestowitz pinentry and its variants [10:24] schestowitz the qt and gtk one [10:24] schestowitz or CLI one [10:24] vZS1_2 pinentry is the only program I trust with my pins [10:25] schestowitz with the current one I am never even asked to enter a passphrase [10:25] schestowitz so I suppose any spy can power up the machine, open thunderbird, and it's already on disk or ram (the passphrase or hash of it) [10:25] vZS1_2 A lot of the GUIs "cache" (read keylog) your passphrases. [10:25] vZS1_2 Nobody should use GUIs for PGP. It's madness [10:25] schestowitz also, pinentry locks the keyboard [10:26] schestowitz so only that application can take the keypresses [10:26] vZS1_2 Yep, there's also a lot of memory safety code built into pinentry [10:26] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:26] schestowitz this goes a long way back [10:26] schestowitz I started using pgp 17 years ago [10:26] schestowitz always had to enter the passphrase [10:26] schestowitz with new mozilla I never get asked anymore [10:30] vZS1_2 schestowitz: set the following as lines in "~/.gnupg" [10:30] vZS1_2 "default-cache-ttl 0" [10:30] vZS1_2 "max-cache-ttl 0" [10:31] vZS1_2 Then do "$ gpg-connect-agent reloadagent /bye" [10:31] techrights-bot NEWS #DoKnowEvil (?) #Google #Chromium #Chrome #openwashing Limiting Private API availability in Chromium https://blog.chromium.org/2021/01/limiting-private-api-availability-in.html [10:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.chromium.org | Chromium Blog: Limiting Private API availability in Chromium [10:31] techrights-bot NEWS #Neowin #Google #Chromium #Chrome #openwashing Google to limit Chrome sync API following audit https://www.neowin.net/news/google-to-limit-chrome-sync-api-following-audit [10:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Google to limit Chrome sync API following audit - Neowin [10:32] vZS1_2 woops [10:32] vZS1_2 I meant [10:32] vZS1_2 "~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf" [10:32] techrights-bot NEWS #Hacakaday #Google #Chromium #Chrome #openwashing Whats The Deal With Chromium On Linux? Google At Odds With Package Maintainers https://hackaday.com/2021/01/26/whats-the-deal-with-chromium-on-linux-google-at-odds-with-package-maintainers/ [10:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Whats The Deal With Chromium On Linux? Google At Odds With Package Maintainers | Hackaday [10:33] vZS1_2 If that doesn't work, TB is intentionally being malicious by caching your passphrases [10:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.21 swarm size (avg): 331.00 [10:33] techrights-bot NEWS #FOSSASIA #Education #FOSSASIA Summit 2021 Call for Speakers and Projects https://blog.fossasia.org/fossasia-summit-2021-call-for-speakers-and-projects/ [10:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FOSSASIA Summit 2021 Call for Speakers and Projects | blog.fossasia.org [10:35] techrights-bot [Old] #Lifewire # 6G: What It Is & When to Expect It https://www.lifewire.com/6g-wireless-4685524 "expedite the deployment of new services in the spectrum above 95 GHz." [10:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lifewire.com | 6G: What It Is & When to Expect It [10:35] schestowitz default-cache-ttl 86400 [10:35] schestowitz max-cache-ttl 864000 [10:35] schestowitz oh, wow [10:36] schestowitz default debian? [10:36] vZS1_2 Yeah, no. That's madness. lol [10:36] vZS1_2 Yep [10:36] vZS1_2 You should never cache passphrases [10:36] *asusbox2 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [10:36] schestowitz gpg-connect-agent reloadagent /bye [10:36] *asusbox2 (~rianne@2a00:23c4:c3aa:7d01:18bd:7bc2:9197:f19a) has joined #techrights [10:36] schestowitz OK [10:36] vZS1_2 All good [10:37] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [10:37] schestowitz does anyone outside mozilla study their code changes in TB? [10:37] vZS1_2 No clue [10:37] schestowitz like the enigmail devs? [10:37] schestowitz I met them in person ages ago [10:37] vZS1_2 I'm too busy with the actual GnuPG code to have time for the rest [10:38] vZS1_2 The GUI developers are generally ignorant of how PGP works anyway [10:38] vZS1_2 Most of them don't even know the spec [10:38] vZS1_2 RFC 4880 [10:39] vZS1_2 They just take the user-level commands and wrap them in GUI buttons [10:41] schestowitz for Windows :-) [10:41] schestowitz maybe also Android [10:41] schestowitz with private key among the files [10:42] schestowitz maybe with "Clown Backup" [10:43] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:45] vZS1_2 Even GNU/Linux [10:46] schestowitz which distro? [10:46] vZS1_2 But you should expect this when you have clueless front-end people trying to do real security [10:46] schestowitz some are decent [10:46] schestowitz btu... [10:46] schestowitz that does not prevent some people doing full homedir backup to AWS [10:46] schestowitz (seen that) [10:46] vZS1_2 People shouldn't use GUIs with PGP, period. Too much that can go wrong. [10:47] schestowitz some companies outsourced their 'secure' VPN to an AWS 'instance'' [10:47] schestowitz and Jabber [10:47] schestowitz and wiki with passwords [10:47] schestowitz very, very secure [10:47] schestowitz "just please, Mr. Bezos, don't peek" [10:48] vZS1_2 ISPs already spy on traffic anyway. VPNs are just like an overlay of encryption on top of underlying traffic. [10:48] schestowitz are keyentry/pinentry and *gpg *gpg in debian's reproducible builds (no long just Debian's)? [10:48] vZS1_2 Basically like an SSh proxy [10:48] schestowitz harder question: [10:48] vZS1_2 s/SSh/SSH/ [10:48] schestowitz GOogle sponsorship for Debian [10:48] schestowitz does that factor in wrt reproducible builds? [10:48] schestowitz Debian does much development on Google servers now [10:48] schestowitz reproducible builds does not use shitehub [10:48] vZS1_2 I don't trust Debian binaries with GnuPG. At all. [10:49] schestowitz but I wonder what or whose host they use for it [10:49] vZS1_2 I've always built from source [10:49] vZS1_2 On offline systems [10:49] schestowitz where did you get source from? [10:49] vZS1_2 GnuPG upstream [10:49] schestowitz hosted by? [10:49] schestowitz remember it takes just ONE mischivious admin [10:49] schestowitz or mole [10:50] schestowitz *mischievous [10:50] vZS1_2 https://gnupg.org/download/index.html [10:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnupg.org | GnuPG - Download [10:51] karolyi[m] so, what's the consensus about librewolf? [10:51] schestowitz PING gnupg.org(www.gnupg.org (2001:aa8:fff1:2100::60)) 56 data bytes [10:51] schestowitz karolyi[m]: danielinux works there [10:51] schestowitz as does daniel of Curl fame [10:51] schestowitz Daniel and I argue online about Curl being outsourced to Microsoft servers [10:51] schestowitz and needing login with Microsoft to participate [10:52] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [10:52] schestowitz vZS1_2: [10:52] schestowitz https://www.ipaddress.com/ipv6/2001:aa8:fff1:2100::60 [10:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ipaddress.com | 2001:aa8:fff1:2100::60 - Germany | Public IPv6 Address [10:53] karolyi[m] I saw yesterday that it's updated more often than waterfox and has more telemetry turned off and other privacy enforcements (for example, webrtc turned off by default) [10:53] schestowitz PlusServer GmbH [10:53] vZS1_2 There are so many GNU alternatives to curl. [10:53] schestowitz not far from Werner Koch [10:53] vZS1_2 GnuPG is almost exclusively German [10:53] vZS1_2 Most of the core devs are [10:53] schestowitz let's hope it's better than ENIGMA [10:53] vZS1_2 And infra [10:55] vZS1_2 It also receives regular GIAFAM donations [10:57] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [10:59] karolyi[m] > @colbycdev Mozilla, contacted me to avoid copyright and trademarks violation, i still did not have a final answer from them until then i would prefer minimizing the edit and forks, they are watching ;) ● Jan 28 [11:00] karolyi[m] an issue comment in librefox from the guy who worked on it [11:00] schestowitz [10:55] It also receives regular GIAFAM donations [11:00] schestowitz it there a web page for donors? [11:00] karolyi[m] https://github.com/Librefox/Librefox.github.io/issues/1#issuecomment-459003210 [11:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Beginning work Issue #1 Librefox/Librefox.github.io GitHub [11:00] vZS1_2 schestowitz: https://gnupg.org/donate/kudos.html [11:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnupg.org | GnuPG - List of Donors [11:03] schestowitz ouch. [11:03] schestowitz I see Facebook. [11:03] schestowitz Current [11:03] vZS1_2 Stripe too [11:03] schestowitz never mind FB scandals [11:03] schestowitz "we need money" [11:03] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [11:04] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [11:04] vZS1_2 FB don't have people capable of real security :) [11:04] vZS1_2 So they outsource it [11:04] schestowitz Stamos [11:04] schestowitz now in solarwinds [11:04] schestowitz for PR purposes [11:05] schestowitz 2018 https://gnupg.org/donate/kudos-2018.html a lot shorter than https://gnupg.org/donate/kudos-2017.html [11:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnupg.org | GnuPG - List of Donors - 2018 [11:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gnupg.org | GnuPG - List of Donors - 2017 [11:05] schestowitz " We have to thank PlusServer for their long time support of GnuPG. They provide rack space, connectivity, and are fast in fixing problems with the machines. " [11:05] vZS1_2 Remember, these are grifter we are dealing with. [11:05] vZS1_2 grifters* [11:06] schestowitz Did they just start "corporate donations" in 2015? [11:06] schestowitz and how does one see corporations from part years? [11:06] vZS1_2 I'm not sure [11:06] vZS1_2 I've only really paid attention to the code [11:06] schestowitz I didn't know about this [11:07] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:09] techrights-bot NEWS #uniColoradoState #Privacy #Surveillance #DataPrivacyDay is January 28: Learn How to Stay Safe Online https://csuglobal.edu/blog/data-privacy-day-is-january-28-learn-how-to-stay-safe-online [11:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-csuglobal.edu | Data Privacy Day is January 28: Learn How to Stay Safe Online - The Official Blog of CSU Global [11:10] vZS1_2 I generally keep comments about code to non-existant, in public. Because people love to start smear campaigns. [11:11] vZS1_2 s/existant/existent/ [11:11] vZS1_2 Especially for Libre software. They'll do anything to defame legitimate projects. [11:12] schestowitz I suppose I could do a quick video about it, but it is mostly speculations [11:12] vZS1_2 Have patched or brought atttention to a few critical bugs over the years. If news of them got out MSFT in particular would jump on it to smear Libre software. [11:12] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:13] schestowitz https://www.govinfosecurity.com/ransomware-should-governments-hack-cybercrime-cartels-a-15861 [11:13] karolyi[m] https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html [11:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.govinfosecurity.com | Ransomware: Should Governments Hack Cybercrime Cartels? [11:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digdeeper.neocities.org | How to choose a browser for everyday use? [11:13] schestowitz new, Microsoft [11:14] vZS1_2 That's what happens when you don't hire real security experts to build your systems. :) [11:15] vZS1_2 Reap what you sow. [11:15] schestowitz "let's put all that on lastpass" [11:15] schestowitz "it has apps" [11:15] schestowitz "for your iPhone" [11:15] schestowitz just don't lose that phone [11:15] schestowitz or make the US gov. suspicious [11:16] schestowitz And always do too-fuck-tor authentication [11:16] karolyi[m] vZS1_2: what happened in Poland yesterday? [11:16] schestowitz like email and barcode [11:16] vZS1_2 karolyi[m]: mass protests around the country for abortion rights. [11:16] vZS1_2 physical protests [11:17] karolyi[m] is that good or bad? [11:17] vZS1_2 Let people decide for themselves [11:18] karolyi[m] I hope they social distanced :) [11:19] vZS1_2 "too-fuck-tor" lol [11:20] karolyi[m] > August 2020: Mozilla is self-destructing (see above) so a Google owned web might soon become a reality. Knowing this, it is obvious Chrome forks can't be any better [11:20] vZS1_2 Which reminds me! [11:20] vZS1_2 I need to try out Falkon! [11:20] vZS1_2 Again [11:21] karolyi[m] yeah, I'm looking for a browser replacement as well [11:21] karolyi[m] there seems to be no good contender at this point [11:21] vZS1_2 I use IceCat. Works for me [11:21] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:22] karolyi[m] https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html#icecat [11:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digdeeper.neocities.org | How to choose a browser for everyday use? [11:24] vZS1_2 IceCat is the most security-conscious web browser you can get. Which isn't a lot but still better than the others. [11:25] vZS1_2 So I'm not leaving IceCat [11:27] karolyi[m] I'll give librewolf a go, sadly I'm still on windows with my desktop pc and no librewolf there [11:28] karolyi[m] and I've made a bad decision to buy a macbook pro in 2019 (with the improved keyboard). corrected that with buying a lenovo t54g recently and going manjaro with it [11:29] karolyi[m] although I need to help normies so need to keep updated with the mainstream OSs [11:29] karolyi[m] some of them are already moved over to matrix by me thankfully, to things are improving [11:30] karolyi[m] but this browser thing is not an easy thing to solve, and I can understand now why people say the web is bloated [11:30] karolyi[m] hard to find a browser that is able to handle it all, and webrtc is a huge security risk, reading into it in the recent days [11:31] karolyi[m] but with the advent of wide scale openoffice, people will have to use browsers that will need to support webrtc [11:31] karolyi[m] s/openoffice/homeoffice/ [11:32] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:32] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.21 swarm size (avg): 328.69 [11:41] techrights-bot NEWS #IndiaTimes #Privacy #Surveillance 82% users reject WhatsApp privacy policy update: Study https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/internet/82-users-reject-whatsapp-privacy-policy-update-study/80492803 [11:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | WhatsApp: 82% users reject WhatsApp privacy policy update: Study, IT News, ET CIO [11:41] schestowitz vZS1_2: just done a video about that [11:42] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [11:43] techrights-bot NEWS #Variety #Privacy #Surveillance Why #TikTok s Popularity Exploded During the Pandemic https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/tiktok-popularity-covid-1234893740/ [11:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-TikTok's Popularity Exploded During COVID - Variety [11:45] techrights-bot NEWS #Site36 #Privacy #Surveillance #Schengen Information System: Fingerprint matching now obligatory throughout the #EU https://digit.site36.net/2021/01/27/schengen-information-system-fingerprint-matching-now-obligatory-throughout-the-eu/ [11:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digit.site36.net | Schengen Information System: Fingerprint matching now obligatory throughout the EU Matthias Monroy [11:46] techrights-bot NEWS #Twitter #Privacy #Surveillance Making Twitter a better home for writers https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2021/making-twitter-a-better-home-for-writers.html [11:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.twitter.com | Making Twitter a better home for writers [11:50] vZS1_2 Still trying to figure out which one of GIAFAM karolyi[m] is affiliated to. [11:51] karolyi[m] vZS1_2: sorry but I couldn't care about your animosity towards me. [11:51] karolyi[m] you're free to think what you want [11:51] karolyi[m] if you have a problem with me, that is your problem and not mine [11:51] karolyi[m] so I'll leave it at that. [11:52] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-25-9-33.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [11:52] schestowitz vZS1_2 we have one Google mole here [11:52] schestowitz the mole parks here [11:52] schestowitz the mole looks for dirt [11:52] schestowitz the mole tries to discredit the site [11:53] schestowitz the mole then tweets to Microsoft moles [11:53] schestowitz they "like" the smears [11:53] schestowitz so the idea that GAFAM mole can be here is not unbased [11:53] schestowitz but [11:53] vZS1_2 They tried to smear the Polish protestors. The 400,00 of them showed up on the streets. [11:53] schestowitz karolyi[m] is unlikely to be one of them [11:53] karolyi[m] what's a GAFAM btw? [11:53] vZS1_2 What a bunch of incompetents lmao [11:53] schestowitz karolyi[m] seems misguided about covid, that's all [11:54] schestowitz vZS1_2: same in russia [11:54] vZS1_2 400,000 * [11:54] schestowitz another rally coming soon [11:54] vZS1_2 missed a zero [11:54] schestowitz 31st in moscow iirc [11:54] karolyi[m] schestowitz: well there must be plenty of misguided doctors and experts too I guess... [11:54] schestowitz they use "covid" to arrest dissent [11:55] vZS1_2 They can't spin 400,000 people on the streets as "foreign interventions" [11:55] vZS1_2 They couldn't arrest 400,000 people last night [11:55] schestowitz foreign by who? [11:55] schestowitz abortionland? [11:55] schestowitz The US under Cheeto THREATENED countries that allowed abortions... to take their funding away [11:56] schestowitz so what country would adopt pro-abortion stance in .pl? [11:56] schestowitz womenland? [11:56] schestowitz where all residents think women control their uterus [11:56] vZS1_2 Indeed [11:57] schestowitz that just 'happens' to be inside/ [11:57] vZS1_2 WOMENLAND IS FULL OF TERRORISTS [11:57] vZS1_2 OMG [11:57] vZS1_2 ARREST THEM ALL! [11:58] vZS1_2 THEY PARTICIPATE IN BIOLOGICAL WARFARE [11:58] vZS1_2 WAR CRIME! [11:58] karolyi[m] RESPEC TEH WHAMENZ [11:58] *vZS1 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) ● Jan 28 [12:01] vZS1_2 No amount of social control media propaganda can cover this up [12:01] schestowitz UK Greens feed broken [12:01] schestowitz RSS [12:01] schestowitz again [12:02] schestowitz they don't have web devs or webmaster or whatever they call them those days [12:02] schestowitz "cloudOps" [12:02] schestowitz "webOps" [12:02] vZS1_2 You see [12:02] vZS1_2 Cloudy day. Their solar panels aren't working [12:02] schestowitz I guess webmaster is out of the question [12:02] schestowitz because "master" [12:02] schestowitz at MCC Manc we had postmaster [12:02] schestowitz and when it was female she adopted the title "postmistress" [12:02] vZS1_2 I think Postmaster General is still an office [12:04] karolyi[m] herstory [12:04] karolyi[m] and that recent retardation "amen and awomen" [12:04] karolyi[m] hilarious [12:06] vZS1_2 schestowitz: IceCat does RSS btw. [12:06] vZS1_2 Which is wonderful [12:07] vZS1_2 Because now I don't need to open a separate reader [12:07] schestowitz ah, my video mentions mozilla dropping rss [12:07] schestowitz it's uploading still [12:07] schestowitz just need to do the text, can you proofread? [12:08] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [12:08] *birkoff (birkoff@unaffiliated/birkoff) has joined #techrights [12:08] *birkoff has quit (Changing host) [12:08] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-rpegiziklxxbsrbk) has joined #techrights [12:09] vZS1_2 Sure [12:11] schestowitz trying to think of a title [12:11] schestowitz I do it last [12:12] schestowitz End-to-End Encryption and Facebook Cannot Coexist [12:12] vZS1_2 Nope [12:14] schestowitz upload finished [12:14] schestowitz btw, with ipfs on I can barely even browser any longer [12:14] schestowitz it only got worse over time [12:14] schestowitz slow upload speeds -> videos buffering -> pages take ages to load -> IRC falls seconds behind [12:15] schestowitz unless it's ipfs that does increasingly 'worse' things [12:15] schestowitz like too many open connections/sockets [12:16] techrights-bot NEWS #NPR #wikileaks Will #Biden DOJ Pursue #Assange Extradition? Outgoing Prosecutor Isn't Sure https://text.npr.org/953280737 [12:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Will Biden DOJ Pursue Assange Extradition? Outgoing Prosecutor Isn't Sure [12:17] schestowitz vZS1_2: http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/facebook-mozilla-and-gnupg/ [12:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | End-to-End Encryption and Facebook Cannot Coexist | Techrights [12:17] vZS1_2 Just turn it off, if it's being too much of an issue [12:20] schestowitz I did turn if off, except around the time the CIDs are instantiated [12:20] techrights-bot End-to-End #Encryption and #Facebook Cannot Coexist s http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/facebook-mozilla-and-gnupg/ #Techrights #e2ee [12:23] vZS1_2 Yeah. Stick to that. I'll server the objects as long as I can just grab then in the morning [12:23] vZS1_2 s/server/serve/ [12:23] techrights-bot Based on many systematic (and reproducible) tests, #Twitter has taken up yet another notch its covert #censorship regime, which optimises based on some vague criteria what people can see and cannot see http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/twitter-censorship-regime/ [12:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter is Hiding Techrights and Partly Shadowbans Yours Truly | Techrights [12:23] schestowitz vZS1_2: main question now is, what to do about BT [12:23] schestowitz I don't know yet, will scan and publish the letter next [12:24] schestowitz need to assess my chances with a formal complaint, lots of time would be involved and if the outcome isn't positive, then bad investment of time [12:27] vZS1_2 schestowitz: I replied via email about the BY situation. [12:27] vZS1_2 BT* [12:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 14.21 swarm size (avg): 326.42 [12:40] *mcole (~slkfmre@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) has joined #techrights [12:47] *mmu_man (~revol@82-65-227-82.subs.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [12:50] karolyi[m] tails 4.1.5.1, sudo exploit fixed [12:50] karolyi[m] *4.15.1, out now [12:50] vZS1_2 Both useless [12:51] vZS1_2 There's a reason OpenBSD doesn't use sudo. It's a security nightmare. [12:53] karolyi[m] schestowitz: wouldn't it be easier to just go with some satellite based ISP if you can't make progress with BT and there's no other alternative? [12:55] vZS1_2 My guess is Mozilla drone. Hmm. Or something to do with the EFF. [12:59] techrights-bot NEWS #DigitalMusicNews #Copyrights #Copyright The Top 1% of Podcasts Receive 99% of Downloads, Report Reveals https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/01/26/podcast-download-distribution-2021/ [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitalmusicnews.com | The Top 1% of Podcasts Receive 99% of Downloads, Report Reveals [12:59] techrights-bot NEWS #InternetArchive #Copyrights #Copyright Bay State College Flips to Digital by Donating Entire College Library to the #InternetArchive https://blog.archive.org/2021/01/27/bay-state-college-flips-to-digital-by-donating-entire-college-library-to-the-internet-archive/ [12:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.archive.org | Bay State College 'Flips to Digital' by Donating Entire College Library to the Internet Archive - Internet Archive Blogs ● Jan 28 [13:00] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Research Shows that Shorter Movie Release Windows Boost Revenue, Not Piracy https://torrentfreak.com/research-movie-release-window-boost-revenue-not-piracy-210127/ [13:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Research Shows that Shorter Movie Release Windows Boost Revenue, Not Piracy * TorrentFreak [13:00] techrights-bot NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights Pirate #IPTV Providers Must Be Blocked By ISPs, French Court Rules https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-iptv-providers-must-be-blocked-by-isps-french-court-rules-210127/ [13:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pirate IPTV Providers Must Be Blocked By ISPs, French Court Rules * TorrentFreak [13:02] karolyi[m] lol keep guessing, you entertain me [13:02] techrights-bot Projects that promise us #privacy but take money (and sometimes staff) from #Facebook and #Google are sending or beaming the wrong signal http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/facebook-mozilla-and-gnupg/ #gnupg #mozilla [13:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | End-to-End Encryption and Facebook Cannot Coexist | Techrights [13:05] techrights-bot New #Linux #Kernel Vulnerabilities Patched in All Supported #Ubuntu Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146987 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Linux Kernel Vulnerabilities Patched in All Supported Ubuntu Releases | Tux Machines [13:06] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146986 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/28/#latest [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [13:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [13:08] techrights-bot Cluster Server R2 2U rack cluster server ships with up to 72 Rockchip RK3399/RK3328 SoMs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146985 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [13:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Cluster Server R2 2U rack cluster server ships with up to 72 Rockchip RK3399/RK3328 SoMs | Tux Machines [13:10] techrights-bot #HowTo Get Install #Docker On #Ubuntu 20.04 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146984 #GNU #Linux [13:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Get Install Docker On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS | Tux Machines [13:12] schestowitz vZS1_2: I doubt such a diagnosis has proof to it and it's likely counterproductive [13:13] schestowitz considering the context of the emergence of the channel and other factors like views expressed [13:13] schestowitz if we're rushing to 'infight', it'll drain resources [13:13] schestowitz we already knows one who DOES work for GAFAM and does look to undermine this site [13:13] schestowitz from within this IRC channel [13:13] schestowitz no need for guessing [13:14] karolyi[m] look, I'm not here to fight, but I will enjoy the show he puts on for me [13:14] schestowitz karolyi[m]: alternative ISP is a possibility, but a big task and also it would leave BT off the hook [13:14] schestowitz the suspicion is that BT is shafting millions of Brits [13:15] schestowitz while denying that it does this [13:15] schestowitz I'm no network engineers [13:15] schestowitz so I need to form a small group of experts who can feed me pointers and argument [13:15] karolyi[m] > the suspicion is that BT is shafting millions of Brits [13:15] schestowitz otherwise, BT lawyers can eat us for lunch [13:15] karolyi[m] well knowing the nature of big corps ... [13:16] schestowitz I don't look for fight [13:16] schestowitz i focus on fights where the facts are know, rather than suspicions [13:16] schestowitz there's no lack of known and confirmed foes [13:17] karolyi[m] just my 2 cents but throttling can be proven by bandwidth testing allegedly throttled and not throttled services at the same time [13:17] techrights-bot Fake awards or paid-for 'endorsements' for sponsors and shills. This is hilarious to watch. Then they use those for marketing, with badges in their Web sites. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q9vs7d4mb1z1/rising-stars-awards-americas-2020-winners-announced [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Rising Stars Awards Americas 2020 Winners Announced! | Managing Intellectual Property [13:18] karolyi[m] if it is indeed throttling and not backbone bandwidth exhaustion [13:18] techrights-bot (Like in China,) "In Nigeria, trademark trolls and sometimes, local distributors and representatives of international brands, register companies at the Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC) using existing trademarks as company names" http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/01/guest-post-nigerian-companies-and.html [13:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest Post] The Nigerian Companies And Allied Matters Act 2020 and the protection of trademarks against similar company names - The IPKat [13:19] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [13:19] karolyi[m] the latter is harder to prove since all you see is everything being slow... and providers don't like to open up information about their backbone networks' load [13:20] vZS1_2 When you promote fake security, I do have a problem. So should everyone else [13:20] vZS1_2 That makes you a charlatan [13:20] schestowitz [13:18] if it is indeed throttling and not backbone bandwidth exhaustion [13:20] vZS1_2 In the literal sense [13:20] schestowitz I thought the same [13:21] schestowitz vZS1_2: many are like that [13:21] schestowitz inc. our Google mole here [13:21] schestowitz who promotes UEFI 'secure boot' [13:21] vZS1_2 So don't take it personally. [13:21] vZS1_2 But you are a charlatan when it comes to security [13:21] schestowitz ask Microsoft for permission to boot your binaries on chips they have nothing to do with.. [13:21] schestowitz vZS1_2: any way to 'rate limit' IPFS? [13:21] schestowitz other than high/low tide /water? [13:22] schestowitz let's experiment with very few peers [13:22] karolyi[m] whatever you say, buddy [13:23] schestowitz I just don't want to turn it on and off all the time [13:23] karolyi[m] [ad hominems intensify] [13:24] vZS1_2 schestowitz: you will have to do that at the packet level for the process. [13:24] vZS1_2 You can try fewer peers too [13:24] schestowitz I am trying 5 to 10 [13:24] schestowitz starting minimal [13:24] schestowitz and I can see latency [13:24] schestowitz e.g. with two machines on IRC [13:25] schestowitz noticed the 4 stages specified earlier [13:25] schestowitz like the obviousness of the slowdown [13:25] schestowitz as of late, even IRC started having lag and pages would take long to load [13:25] schestowitz i.e. barely bearable [13:25] schestowitz for wife also [13:29] karolyi[m] schestowitz: what pings do you have? [13:29] *xvx (~xvx@185.48.63.107) has joined #techrights [13:30] techrights-bot "5.2 millionAmericans filed for first-time unemployment over the last month. The key civilian labor force participation rate is61.5%." https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/27/bidens-presidency-has-already-failed/ [13:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biden's Presidency Has Already Failed - CounterPunch.org [13:30] schestowitz karolyi[m]: describe the test [13:32] karolyi[m] schestowitz: I'd traceroute 8.8.8.8 and see where the ping times get slow. mtr is a good tool for that [13:32] schestowitz but that's just google [13:33] schestowitz and does not say much about socket exhaustion [13:33] karolyi[m] yes but pings all the routers within BT's network [13:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.38 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.31 swarm size (avg): 324.33 [13:33] schestowitz vZS1_2: ipfs does not obey low limits [13:33] schestowitz insists on about 170 concurrent in swarm when I set limits to 5-10 [13:34] vZS1_2 I've had that issue with it as well [13:34] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams #proprietarySoftware #NSA | #SolarWinds Is Not the 'Hack of the Century.' Its Blowback for the NSA's Longtime Dominance of Cyberspace https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/01/27/solarwinds-not-hack-century-its-blowback-nsas-longtime-dominance-cyberspace [13:34] *livestradamus has quit (Quit: I'm out.) [13:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | SolarWinds Is Not the 'Hack of the Century.' Its Blowback for the NSA's Longtime Dominance of Cyberspace [13:35] *livestradamus (~quassel@unaffiliated/livestradamus) has joined #techrights [13:35] karolyi[m] schestowitz: I think even if it is socket exhaustion and routers getting slow because of it (and not the lines inbetween), you'd still get a clue as to where it slows down [13:35] vZS1_2 ICMP is not going to help you solve anything [13:35] vZS1_2 schestowitz: stop taking network advice from a charlatan lol [13:36] vZS1_2 ping = ICMP [13:36] karolyi[m] if routers are overloaded by sockets, their underlying OS will slow down, unless they are set up to give higher priority to those ICMPs and thus hide the fact that they're overloaded [13:38] techrights-bot NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Navalny Discharged too soon Margarita Yudina, who was kicked by a policeman at a protest in #StPetersburg , was readmitted to a hospital https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/01/27/discharged-too-soon [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [13:38] karolyi[m] this is an interesting read: https://help.mulesoft.com/s/article/How-to-use-mtr-to-diagnose-packet-loss-problem-with-a-TCP-port [13:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-help.mulesoft.com | MuleSoft Help Center [13:41] karolyi[m] "Newer versions of MTR are now capable of running in TCP mode on a specified TCP port, compared to the default use of the ICMP (ping) protocol" [13:41] karolyi[m] interesting, didn't know mtr can do that [13:42] karolyi[m] https://www.linode.com/docs/guides/diagnosing-network-issues-with-mtr/ [13:42] karolyi[m] "However, in most cases this mode shouldnt be used as TCP reports can be misleading in diagnosing inter-route issues. A TCP MTR will use SYN packets in place of ICMP pings, and most internet-level routers will not respond to these, erroneously indicating loss." [13:42] karolyi[m] so, YMMV [13:42] karolyi[m] but I think it's worth a test [13:43] karolyi[m] (the linode site loads super slow) [13:45] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:46] *mcole has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [13:46] *mcole (~slkfmre@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) has joined #techrights [13:49] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@techrights.org) has joined #techrights [13:49] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 ● Jan 28 [14:08] techrights-bot #Chromium restrictions by #Google http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146776#comment-28000 [14:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Demise of Chromium as Free Software | Tux Machines [14:16] MinceR (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/uLAU6LV.mp4 [14:18] *tr_guest|87812 (b9701404@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.112.20.4) has joined #techrights [14:19] techrights-bot NEWS #MintPressNews #JFK JFK's Foreign Policy: A Strategy of #Peace https://www.mintpressnews.com/jfk-foreign-policy-strategy-of-peace/274787/ [14:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mintpressnews.com | JFK's Foreign Policy: A Strategy of Peace [14:32] karolyi[m] https://protonmail.com/blog/joint-statement-eu-encryption/ [14:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-protonmail.com | The EU must protect the right to privacy and not attack end-to-end encryption [14:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.45 swarm size (avg): 322.93 [14:40] *abarr (~aplsm@KD113148020047.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) has joined #techrights [14:50] vZS1_2 Protonmail. Also fake security. They have people's private encryption keys. [14:54] *psymin (~psymin@fsf/member/psymin) has joined #techrights [14:54] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/21011662 [14:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5174358) ● Jan 28 [15:09] schestowitz I just did a video about fake sec [15:09] schestowitz half an hour [15:09] schestowitz but focused on EFF [15:13] vZS1_2 MinceR with the positive vibes [15:18] MinceR (no audio?) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/efe7631fb28235d4.mp4 [15:19] karolyi[m] lol [15:20] karolyi[m] high tech transportation [15:22] schestowitz $:-) potassium powered [15:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.13 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.45 swarm size (avg): 320.74 [15:34] techrights-bot #ProprietarySoftware Pseudo-Security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146988 #Security [15:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Pseudo-Security | Tux Machines [15:36] MinceR some of these graphs look suspiciously like the ones 1 hour before [15:37] vZS1_2 Good catch [15:37] vZS1_2 It is the same [15:38] vZS1_2 Might be because it's from a static file [15:38] vZS1_2 So the daemon might be off [15:38] vZS1_2 So we end up with the same graph [15:38] MinceR https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/16/05de72d19e8acaba.jpg [15:39] vZS1_2 MinceR: That looks very similar to when I was in New Brunswick in Canada. [15:39] MinceR :) [15:40] vZS1_2 Apart from there were snowmobile tracks where I was [15:41] vZS1_2 Less pretty than that picture :P [15:44] *mcole has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [15:48] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [15:50] schestowitz [15:36] some of these graphs look suspiciously like the ones 1 hour before [15:51] schestowitz yes, because of BT I need to switch it off [15:52] schestowitz it kills off the uploads as soon I turn it on [15:52] schestowitz you might argue that maybe it limits connections [15:52] schestowitz but that was not at all an issue until start of this year and lockdowns [15:56] *abarr has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:59] vZS1_2 One of the most peculiar things about Gentoo is that they don't bundle ed(1) in the base tarball. Bizzare. ● Jan 28 [16:00] vZS1_2 You get nano(1) as the base editor. [16:02] schestowitz you said so before [16:02] schestowitz nano is good [16:02] schestowitz vZS1_2: care to check the privacy post? [16:02] schestowitz it published prematurely? [16:02] vZS1_2 Sure [16:02] vZS1_2 Link? [16:03] schestowitz hang on, not posted yet... [16:03] vZS1_2 I don't mind nano either [16:03] schestowitz also got some 'leaks' today [16:03] schestowitz Video still uploading. Check spelling etc. in http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/eff-on-big-tech/ [16:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Electronic Frontier Foundation Forgets Microsoft Monopoly, Focuses on Oligopolies (or Big Tech) | Techrights [16:09] vZS1_2 Haven't seen any typos [16:10] schestowitz thanks! [16:10] schestowitz that helps too [16:10] schestowitz I will write about leaks now [16:11] vZS1_2 Yw [16:12] techrights-bot The Electronic Frontier Foundation Forgets #Microsoft #Monopoly , Focuses on 'Oligopolies (or 'Big Tech') s http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/eff-on-big-tech/ #Techrights #EFF #GAFAM [16:12] karolyi[m] pretty depressing writeup about the technocracy that is being pushed upon us all... this guy predicted things in 2015 without even mentioning the word technocracy: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/technological_slavery.html [16:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-digdeeper.neocities.org | Technological slavery [16:12] schestowitz many people foresaw this [16:12] schestowitz but it's just the same robber barons (VCs) weaponing tech [16:12] schestowitz to keep themselves in control [16:12] schestowitz as they did with the mass media/printing [16:13] schestowitz "Big tech" [16:13] schestowitz a misnomer [16:13] schestowitz distracts from class war [16:13] karolyi[m] well, it's the elite agains everybody else [16:13] karolyi[m] if it is a class war [16:14] karolyi[m] btw did you try the mtr stuff I mentioned? 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[16:35] karolyi[m] https://www.w3.org/2021/01/pressrelease-webrtc-rec.html.en [16:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | Web Real-Time Communications (WebRTC) transforms the communications landscape; becomes a World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) Recommendation and multiple Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) standards [16:35] vZS1_2 MinceR: That's what I keep telling people. [16:35] MinceR :) [16:35] *tr_guest|87812 has quit (Client Quit) [16:36] MinceR "Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed because it's ED!" [16:36] vZS1_2 I mean, if you know sed, you know most of ed anyway. [16:36] MinceR what bothers me is when distros leave vim out of the default install and the live media [16:36] vZS1_2 MinceR you use vim as your preferred editor? [16:37] MinceR i do [16:37] vZS1_2 Cool. How do you feel about vimscript? :P [16:37] MinceR it's not perfect but it gets the job done [16:38] MinceR so far i haven't written any new vimscript, only modified some existing stuff [16:39] vZS1_2 I started out as a vim user but switched to emacs because of info docs [16:39] MinceR (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_K94h0Le4A [16:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Noises of a happy cat - YouTube [16:40] vZS1_2 Still fall back to ed(1) for simple things. [16:40] MinceR i used to use emacs, but i disliked how slot it was, so i switched to SciTE and then to vim [16:40] MinceR s/lot/low/ [16:41] vZS1_2 Having most code in Lisp does hit performance quite hard [16:41] MinceR that's probably not necessary [16:42] MinceR it's just that elisp specifically is ancient and slow [16:42] vZS1_2 bitrot [16:42] vZS1_2 I don't use "fancy" emacs features. [16:43] vZS1_2 So it doesn't really impact me [16:43] MinceR even syntax highlighting is slow in emacs [16:43] vZS1_2 Yep [16:43] MinceR i could see it go through the displayed code and highlight it [16:44] vZS1_2 There's work being done to change some of that to Guile [16:44] vZS1_2 Should help performance [16:44] vZS1_2 I think RMS wants all of Emacs to be redone in Guile [16:45] MinceR it's going to be massive work to port elisp code to scheme [16:45] vZS1_2 I don't see it happening anytime earlier than 10 years maybe lol [16:52] MinceR https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/16/36ba8702991202a8.jpg [16:54] vZS1_2 That reminds me of Wales [16:55] vZS1_2 But more trees than you'd find in Wales lol [16:55] MinceR :) [16:55] MinceR allegedly it's in Switzerland ● Jan 28 [17:12] MinceR https://full.pr0gramm.com/2021/01/17/a37f922e02e45a6f.jpg [17:23] karolyi[m] > Putin is the first national leader of prominence to verbalize the idea that Big Tech companies are in direct competition with national governments to control societies. [17:23] karolyi[m] interesting [17:24] karolyi[m] so it is okay when governments take your freedom, but not when big tech does it [17:24] techrights-bot NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #Belarus Fighting for the truth Meet the former Belarusian security officers investigating the crimes of the #Lukashenko regime https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/01/27/fighting-for-the-truth [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [17:24] techrights-bot NEWS #meduza #ru #russia #fb #Facebook temporarily suspends Russias space agency chief after comments attacking former U.S. Ambassador Michael McFaul https://meduza.io/en/shapito/2021/01/27/facebook-temporarily-suspends-russia-s-space-agency-chief-after-comments-attacking-former-u-s-ambassador-michael-mcfaul [17:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE [17:31] techrights-bot #EPO Staff Likely Going on Strike For a Second Year in a Row http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/strikes-at-epo/ #europe #patents #patents #strike [17:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Likely Going on Strike For a Second Year in a Row | Techrights [17:33] karolyi[m] somewhat older but good read about encryption cracking evolving pretty fast: https://hackaday.com/2015/09/29/quantum-computing-kills-encryption/ [17:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Quantum Computing Kills Encryption | Hackaday [17:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.51 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 13.28 swarm size (avg): 316.47 [17:33] karolyi[m] it was linked from the technological slavery webpage [17:35] schestowitz https://suepo.org/public_news/c-10 [17:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-suepo.org | [17:35] schestowitz " [17:35] schestowitz The results of the 2020 EPO Staff Survey by Technologia are now available. They are worrying. [17:35] schestowitz [17:35] schestowitz Most important findings are available in the Executive Summary (also available in French). Other relevant information has been gathered in a summary presentation (also available in French). [17:35] schestowitz [17:35] schestowitz The raw results to all questions (compared with the results of the 2010, 2013 and 2016 editions) are also available in three languages: English, German and French. [17:36] schestowitz [17:36] schestowitz SUEPO Central [17:36] schestowitz " [17:41] vZS1_2 MinceR: UFO streetlight! [17:41] MinceR :) [17:53] techrights-bot "According to Greg Palast, the 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, and 2016 results were all tampered with votes tossed away, mostly Democratic" https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/27/in-defense-of-dj-trump/ [17:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-In Defense of DJ Trump - CounterPunch.org [17:57] techrights-bot The #ElectronicFrontierFoundation ( #EFF ) is not advancing the goals it was renowned for a few years ago or a decade back; its worth discussing the reasons http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/eff-on-big-tech/ [17:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Electronic Frontier Foundation Forgets Microsoft Monopoly, Focuses on Oligopolies (or Big Tech) | Techrights [17:57] techrights-bot This 1-day strike is merely the beginning of an ongoing process, says #SUEPO , the staff union of the #EPO http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/strikes-at-epo/ [17:59] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146993 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/28/#latest [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts ● Jan 28 [18:00] techrights-bot #Clonezilla Live 2.7.1 Released with Linux 5.10 LTS, Improved Linux Software RAID Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146994 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Clonezilla Live 2.7.1 Released with Linux 5.10 LTS, Improved Linux Software RAID Support | Tux Machines [18:02] techrights-bot Looks Like #Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) May Ship with #Wayland by Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146992 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Looks Like Ubuntu 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo) May Ship with Wayland by Default | Tux Machines [18:05] techrights-bot Which is the Best Linux Distros for Students? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146991 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Which is the Best Linux Distros for Students? | Tux Machines [18:08] karolyi[m] does anyone use wayland here? [18:08] techrights-bot Break Away From Android: 7 #FreesW Mobile OSes to Try http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146990 #GNU #Linux [18:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Break Away From Android: 7 Free Open-Source Mobile OSes to Try | Tux Machines [18:09] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/tricked.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/622/ ) [18:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [18:10] techrights-bot #CentOS co-founder launches company to support fork http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146989 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/28/#latest [18:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CentOS co-founder launches company to support fork | Tux Machines [18:14] techrights-bot #bbc pages on #covid19 have become #marketing brochures for #vaccines BBC briber #billgates looks to profit a lot from. Appalling. [18:21] techrights-bot Fourth Edition of #EPO Staff Survey Shows That Work Affairs Continue to Deteriorate Even Further and Almost Nobody Trusts the Management http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/epo-staff-survey-2020/ #europe #patent #patents #statistics [18:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fourth Edition of EPO Staff Survey Shows That Work Affairs Continue to Deteriorate Even Further and Almost Nobody Trusts the Management | Techrights [18:26] techrights-bot Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146995 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [18:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.43 swarm size (avg): 314.47 [18:43] MinceR (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/725306.jpg [18:47] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [18:50] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) ● Jan 28 [19:07] MinceR https://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/growing.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/651/ ) [19:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) [19:08] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [19:32] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [19:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.43 swarm size (avg): 312.39 [19:34] DaemonFC[m] My husband does. I gave him my older Lenovo laptop and put Fedora 33 on it. [19:34] DaemonFC[m] I always used X11 because I had a lot of Windows applications in Wine that just didn't agree with Wayland. It definitely improves every 6 months, but it's never quite there. [19:34] DaemonFC[m] It's good enough to run his laptop with Chrome and a few other things. [19:35] karolyi[m] is it faster than X or what is the advantage of using it? [19:35] MinceR as long as it insists on going in the wrong direction, it will never be there [19:35] MinceR it's "modern" [19:35] karolyi[m] the only argument I've heard about it that "it's cleaner code" [19:35] MinceR and most of its implementations force cancerd on you [19:35] karolyi[m] yeah [19:35] DaemonFC[m] If an application natively supports Wayland, it is smoother, more secure, and more efficient than X11. [19:35] MinceR and most of its implementations are incapable of server-side decorations, which makes them less reliable, less usable and less consistent [19:35] DaemonFC[m] If an application relies on XWayland, then there's an additional layer there that uses more resources and doesn't and never will sync properly with Wayland. [19:36] MinceR also, "security" in proprietarydesktop land means "we'll never implement features lennart doesn't use" [19:36] DaemonFC[m] Right now there are more X11 applications than Wayland ones, and major surgery will need to be done on Wine to bring it to Wayland. So expect that there will be performance problems with Proton games in Steam and Windows applications in general. [19:36] MinceR no screenshots, no screencasts, no screen sharing, no pointer warping, no pointer grabbing, no FPS in a window or on a multihead system [19:37] DaemonFC[m] Well, we were in a bad place with X11 and we're in an even worse one now. [19:37] MinceR it is also less modular, as the geniuses insist that one half of what used to be the window manager had to be merged into the display server and the other half had to be merged into every gui toolkit [19:37] *asusbox (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [19:37] DaemonFC[m] Because I don't feel that Wayland is ever going to work out and it siphoned resources away from turning X into something that was at least better than it is. [19:38] MinceR X11 is still the most powerful windowing system available [19:38] MinceR and the only way proprietarydesktop can change that is by ensuring that no usable implementation of X11 remains [19:38] DaemonFC[m] There's a lot of code in X11 that nothing is ever going to use again. It would have made more sense to cut all of that out and move extension functionality into the core of a new X standard. [19:38] MinceR since they suck at software design and implementation [19:39] *asusbox2 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [19:39] DaemonFC[m] It's bad. In many ways, and I hate to say this, Wayland is engineered worse than the DWM and WDDM model on Windows. [19:40] DaemonFC[m] At least it's consistent, backwards compatible, and developers don't get to choose whether to support it or not. [19:40] MinceR sure they do [19:40] MinceR i choose not to support windows at all [19:40] MinceR usually [19:43] karolyi[m] I'm willing to try it once I've heard enough positive about it [19:43] karolyi[m] but so far opinions were mostly negative, and told that it needs to evolve ● Jan 28 [20:05] vZS1_2 More Red-Hat. Just what GNU/Linux needs. [20:05] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lcljveiqhawksjqz) has joined #techrights [20:06] vZS1_2 MinceR: btw, Gentoo dropped official support for Libressl. [20:07] vZS1_2 https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2021-01-05-libressl-support-discontinued.html [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gentoo.org | LibreSSL support discontinued Gentoo Linux [20:11] *Lantizia_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:11] vZS1_2 "LibreSSL has been forked off OpenSSL in 2014 to address a number of [20:11] vZS1_2 problems with the original package. However, since then OpenSSL [20:11] vZS1_2 development gained speed and the original reasons for the fork no longer [20:11] vZS1_2 apply. Furthermore, LibreSSL started to repeatedly fall behind [20:11] vZS1_2 and cause growing compatibility problems. [20:11] vZS1_2 " [20:12] *Lantizia_ (~Lantizia@functionoffice/staff/Lantizia) has joined #techrights [20:12] vZS1_2 Read as "We are playing along with OpenSSL's moving target" [20:15] MinceR schestowitz: the website is throwing database errors: "Error establishing a database connection" [20:32] vZS1_2 Yep [20:32] vZS1_2 I can't access anything either [20:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.43 swarm size (avg): 310.34 [20:36] vZS1_2 Welp. Readers will have to make do with IPFS for now. lol [20:37] MinceR :> [20:37] vZS1_2 P2P is superior. :P [20:39] vZS1_2 I have an image in my head of Roy and Ariadne running around and papers flying everywhere [20:44] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: Someone on MyFICO said his car was stolen and SafeCo insurance (Liberty Mutual) wouldn't cover it because they said he was having financial problems and may have had something to do with the theft. [20:44] MinceR nice [20:45] MinceR paying for a service and receiving nothing for it, so hot right now [20:45] DaemonFC[m] I said, "Well if you have to file bankruptcy over this, the next thing I'd do is write to the finance company and suggest they sue SafeCo for not covering the outstanding balance of the loan, since the car was stolen. At least then you might get the satisfaction of the finance people suing SafeCo and getting the loan, court costs, and thousands in attorney fees back.". [20:45] DaemonFC[m] "They _are_ the lienholder listed on the policy." [20:47] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: "Windows is a service, and as part of that service you are obligated to install the Russian Roulette updates. Will your computer restart or not? Who knows? It's all part of the service." [20:47] MinceR :> [20:49] vZS1_2 lmao [20:50] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: After our immigration green card case was approved, they started docking Mandy like an hour or two here and there at work, and he was worried by it. [20:50] DaemonFC[m] I told him don't be. [20:51] DaemonFC[m] He's like why. I said, "I already ran the numbers and if it continues like this, we won't owe the IRS any federal income tax next year, but if you get the hour or two per week back, the IRS will take 10% of that additional money.". [20:52] *GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) [20:53] DaemonFC[m] So he asked me to explain and I said "Right now, you're averaging 39 hours worth of pay but if you work an additional average hour, that's 52 hours per year, right?". He goes, "Yeah....".. I said, "But then you owe income tax on the 52 hours and the IRS takes away 5.2 hours worth of your work.". [20:54] DaemonFC[m] So they're actually giving him enough average hours that we'll come in almost right under the line where you owe 0% federal income tax for the year. [20:54] DaemonFC[m] Which is just so cool. [20:55] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: I found myself quoting the Internal Revenue Code several times to the immigration people. [20:56] DaemonFC[m] They asked questions about our returns like how I got $1,000 back without paying taxes in 2019 or why we paid -0.78% this year and how that was possible. [20:56] DaemonFC[m] So I quoted the regulations and the prongs of each test for each credit that I took from our returns. [20:57] DaemonFC[m] The attorney was over there on the other side of the room going what what. [20:57] DaemonFC[m] Because we took $4740 from the IRS over two years without paying them a dime. [20:57] DaemonFC[m] And I successfully explained how it was legal. [20:58] *inky (~inky@141.136.76.13) has joined #techrights [20:58] DaemonFC[m] I told him, "But don't worry. Between what I paid you to file this case and what I paid our associate over here, you'll get it all back.". [20:58] DaemonFC[m] The guy actually laughed. [20:59] DaemonFC[m] MinceR: I filed an immigration case and won it under Trump's USCIS, and made the IRS pay for it. Basically. ● Jan 28 [21:00] DaemonFC[m] These people are sending troll faces to a hedge fund over the Gamestop incident. Amateurs. [21:06] DaemonFC[m] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/short-sellers-down-a-net-54-billion-on-u-s-positions-so-far-this-year-data-provider-says-11611866736?mod=home-page [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Short sellers down a net $54 billion on U.S. positions so far this year, data provider says - MarketWatch [21:09] schestowitz [20:15] schestowitz: the website is throwing database errors: "Error establishing a database connection" [21:09] schestowitz only just woke up [21:10] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/725282.jpg [21:11] vZS1_2 Now the entire site isn't working [21:11] schestowitz seems like DB down [21:11] schestowitz checking.. [21:11] schestowitz Ariadne: ^ [21:11] schestowitz also the DB for TuxMachines Gallery [21:14] schestowitz it's back [21:14] schestowitz mariadb crashes [21:14] schestowitz solved [21:14] schestowitz this is the first time, I think that it happens since it was set up in Easter [21:15] vZS1_2 Ah [21:15] vZS1_2 Are you running mariadb in Docker? [21:16] schestowitz yes [21:16] vZS1_2 Shouldn't be hard to reload it then [21:17] vZS1_2 Site works fine now [21:17] techrights-bot The #EPO s staff union, #SUEPO , has released the results of a staff survey conducted last year http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/epo-staff-survey-2020/ #patent #patents [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Fourth Edition of EPO Staff Survey Shows That Work Affairs Continue to Deteriorate Even Further and Almost Nobody Trusts the Management | Techrights [21:24] schestowitz vZS1_2: if it happens again, will investigate root cause [21:24] schestowitz this is very rare [21:30] *blep has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [21:30] *blep (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/blep) has joined #techrights [21:30] techrights-bot #Kongress 1.0 release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146996 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [21:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kongress 1.0 release | Tux Machines [21:32] techrights-bot #Zededa clown/edge framework builds on Linux-based EVE-OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146997 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zededa cloud/edge framework builds on Linux-based EVE-OS | Tux Machines [21:32] vZS1_2 schestowitz: I still don't know what sent SIGINT when my ipfs daemon was crashing. [21:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.43 swarm size (avg): 308.32 [21:33] vZS1_2 Right now it's still running since I started it with strace [21:33] techrights-bot Compact embedded computer features i.MX8M http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146998 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Compact embedded computer features i.MX8M | Tux Machines [21:35] techrights-bot The KISS Web Development Framework http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146999 #freesw [21:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The KISS Web Development Framework | Tux Machines [21:36] techrights-bot Top 5 Free and Open Source #LMS Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147000 #freesw [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 5 Free and Open Source LMS Tools | Tux Machines [21:37] techrights-bot #Ubuntu 21.04 Will Try To Use Wayland By Default http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147001 #GNU #Linux [21:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 21.04 Will Try To Use Wayland By Default | Tux Machines [21:38] techrights-bot #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147002 #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/01/28/#latest [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [21:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:42] schestowitz vZS1_2: I miss the times I could just run the ipfs daemon without my connection become almost unusable [21:44] vZS1_2 What network speeds are you getting now? (without ipfs) [21:44] vZS1_2 Up and Down [21:44] *GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [21:45] techrights-bot End of US global gag rule raises hopes for womens #healthcare at crucial time https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news/2021/1/28/global-gag-rule-abortion-access-biden-mexico-city-policy-haiti-namibia [21:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | End of US global gag rule raises hopes for womens healthcare at crucial time [21:47] techrights-bot How about no #covid19 #patents as the answer? https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/01/shortages-compulsory-licensing.html [21:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Guest Post: Pandemic drug shortages: Is compulsory licensing the answer? | Patently-O [21:47] techrights-bot " #EliLilly has successfully sued competitor Zentiva at the Paris Court of First Instance. The judges also prohibited the company from selling the chemotherapy drug pemetrexed in France." #patent #monopoly #epo #france https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/french-court-awards-eli-lilly-more-high-damages-for-pemetrexed/ [21:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | French court awards Eli Lilly more high damages for pemetrexed - JUVE Patent [21:49] techrights-bot Patrick Wingrove reaffirming his #patenttrolls fetish by doing puff pieces for them. This is truly appalling. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q9mc2pzvylk1/five-npes-reveal-new-ip-monetisation-plans [21:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Five NPEs reveal new IP monetisation plans | Managing Intellectual Property [21:49] schestowitz vZS1_2: now it is what;s advertised more of less [21:50] schestowitz but with same ipfs setup last month... no noticeable difference [21:50] schestowitz b/w rates did not change at IPFS side [21:51] techrights-bot Missing the vastly more important point that such 'trials' are illegal and #EPO is basically breaking the #law https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q9vzfztjhtwk/virtual-trials-creating-hurdles-for-expert-witness-testimony [21:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Virtual trials creating hurdles for expert witness testimony | Managing Intellectual Property [21:52] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:52] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:53] techrights-bot "an essentially identical issue and, if necessary, to deal with the reasons which led to a deviating result in the preceding decision does not necessarily violate the right to be heard of the party concerned." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/01/28/patent-case-einzelkettenring-germany/ [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Patent case: Einzelkettenring, Germany - Kluwer Patent Blog [21:53] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:53] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [21:54] vZS1_2 schestowtiz: I think it may be worth trying a short VPN plan to see if that helps. Just for 1 month to see if that fixes things. [21:54] techrights-bot Using #embargo as a weapon using #fakepatents from #epo with presumption of validity (no longer reasonable; ask EPO examiners what they think of #patent quality!) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1q9wxg9cx6q7q/munich-cjeu-referral-potential-injunction-game-changer [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Munich CJEU referral potential injunction game changer | Managing Intellectual Property [21:55] vZS1_2 If all your traffic is going through an encrypted tunnel, they can't traffic shape. [21:55] schestowitz I don't want to try vpn just for that [21:55] vZS1_2 But then arises the question of do they rate-limit VPNs [21:55] schestowitz I already lost countless hours this month on this hassle [21:55] schestowitz vZS1_2: I will read email later [21:56] schestowitz I want to be sure b/w readings are correct [21:56] schestowitz if they are, I'm def not exceeding anywhere near line capacity [21:56] schestowitz which means they do something at their end [21:56] schestowitz within second of turning ipfs on, all devices are slow to get and send pages [21:56] vZS1_2 BT have a history of targeting P2P traffic [21:57] schestowitz Yes, I read about it [21:57] schestowitz many threafs [21:57] schestowitz *threads [21:57] schestowitz general position: we NO LONGER throttling p2p [21:57] schestowitz (we did before) [21:57] vZS1_2 BS [21:57] schestowitz *We're [21:57] schestowitz hence the important of the complaint, if any [21:58] schestowitz they would go to great lengths to deny this [21:58] schestowitz and I suspect they did this "coz new year" or "coz lockdowns" [21:58] schestowitz and if so, we need to fight back [21:59] vZS1_2 Indeed. ● Jan 28 [22:00] schestowitz it took 2 weeks to realise ipfs was the cuprit [22:00] schestowitz *culprit [22:00] schestowitz so I wish to think there's MORE to it than me [22:00] schestowitz and MOAR fighting would be worthwhile [22:00] schestowitz given all those observations [22:00] schestowitz in which case, it become a side project like exposing EPO corruption for 7 years [22:00] vZS1_2 This is one of those slow burns [22:00] vZS1_2 Yep [22:01] schestowitz which is why I need network gurus by my side to bolster the argument (this isn't my area) [22:01] schestowitz Ariadne worked for ISPs and kept telling me she had seen this and was likely throttling [22:02] schestowitz when the connection goes sort of on, then off, timing out in a round robin fashion [22:02] *rianne__ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:02] vZS1_2 Most people get around this by using a VPN [22:02] schestowitz all packets are sent/received [22:02] schestowitz but not in a timely fashio [22:02] vZS1_2 If they don't have the option to switch providers [22:02] vZS1_2 It's very common in the torrent community [22:03] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-168-60.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [22:04] schestowitz didn't occur to me [22:04] schestowitz knowing how low the b/w is on that devices [22:04] schestowitz *device [22:04] schestowitz but now we know what causes BT to do this [22:04] vZS1_2 They're just reading packet headers [22:04] schestowitz and I don't know if they can demonise such traffic to say the law is on their side [22:05] vZS1_2 It's very similar to what they do for BitTorrent [22:07] techrights-bot Using the Epic Store on Linux is even easier with the latest Heroic Games Launcher updates | GamingOnLinux https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/using-the-epic-store-on-linux-is-even-easier-with-the-latest-heroic-games-launcher-updates #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games #Gaming [22:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using the Epic Store on Linux is even easier with the latest Heroic Games Launcher updates | GamingOnLinux [22:08] techrights-bot "For the latest small release, they've produced a brand new launcher that will keep the game nicely up to date and enabling Linux users to easily launch the game." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/free-and-open-source-strategy-shooter-unvanquished-gearing-up-for-big-new-release [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free and open source strategy shooter Unvanquished gearing up for big new release | GamingOnLinux [22:09] techrights-bot "What to expect from it (apart from confirmed #GNU #Linux support!): alongside classic point-and-click gameplay #TheSundew will ask you to make decisions that will change the future of humanity." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/play-as-a-cyborg-cop-abandoned-by-progress-in-the-upcoming-point-and-click-the-sundew [22:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Play as a cyborg cop abandoned by progress in the upcoming point and click The Sundew | GamingOnLinux [22:10] schestowitz vZS1_2: so even bigger question at stake [22:10] schestowitz and this isn't some "copyright infringement" [22:12] techrights-bot "Note: for the #GNU #Linux version, it's been reported that on AMD GPUs you may need to turn off Ambient Occlusion to prevent graphical glitches." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/01/wasteland-3-gets-a-big-patch-with-a-new-mode-to-enjoy-the-story [22:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wasteland 3 gets a big patch with a new mode to enjoy the story | GamingOnLinux [22:12] vZS1_2 Nope. It's just what they do [22:14] vZS1_2 They lie for years and that's why VPNs became so popular [22:14] vZS1_2 lied* [22:14] vZS1_2 People got fed up and found a workaround [22:15] vZS1_2 Thankfully, I haven't been hit by any of that (yet). [22:18] techrights-bot #linuxfoundation is infested with Microsoft. People who came from Microsoft and now control the public face of 'Linux'. https://linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/interview-with-shuah-khan-kernel-maintainer-linux-fellow/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | Interview with Shuah Khan, Kernel Maintainer & Linux Fellow - Linux Foundation [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [22:19] schestowitz vZS1_2: is there a 'grace period'? [22:20] schestowitz it felt retaliatory [22:21] techrights-bot #ibm #redhat promoting vendor #lockin again: #Ansible https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/ansible-quick-start [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Quick start guide to Ansible for Linux sysadmins | Enable Sysadmin [22:22] techrights-bot #BSDNow 387: #OpenBSD Broadcast Studio https://www.bsdnow.tv/387 [22:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bsdnow.tv | BSD Now 387: OpenBSD Broadcast Studio [22:23] techrights-bot #microsoft style of propaganda from #ibm , leveraging kids and buzzwords like "HEY HI" https://developer.ibm.com/blogs/6-year-old-guinness-world-record-programmer-completes-ibm-ai-certification/ [22:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.ibm.com | 6-year-old Guinness World Record programmer completes IBM AI certification IBM Developer [22:24] techrights-bot "Using proprietary Discord and StreamYard hopefully a transient tactic to quickly deliver something good for FLOSS in 2021" http://www.gnome.org/~michael/blog [22:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-people.gnome.org | Stuff Michael Meeks is doing [22:25] techrights-bot How to waste #freesw developer time on #microsoft https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2021/01/28/gstreamer-on-windows-adding-webrtc-support-to-a-gst-build-install/ [22:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | GStreamer on Windows: adding WebRTC support to a gst-build install [22:26] vZS1_2 schestowitz: tbh, idk. [22:27] techrights-bot #Ubuntu Complete Beginners Guide (Full Course in one video!) - YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4WyNjt_hbQ #Video #GNU #Linux [22:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Complete Beginners Guide (Full Course in one video!) - YouTube [22:28] schestowitz https://www.kryogenix.org/days/2021/01/28/today-i-was-vaccinated-for-covid/ [22:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kryogenix.org | as days pass by Today I was vaccinated forCovid [22:28] schestowitz today I added myself to the experiment [22:28] schestowitz enlisting myself to monopoly [22:28] schestowitz BBC pushes this thing very aggressively [22:28] vZS1_2 lol [22:28] schestowitz with no evidence (yet) that this is helping [22:29] schestowitz BTW, this guy is a well known gnu/linux dev [22:29] schestowitz doing blog posts to advertise the "I'm voted" [22:29] schestowitz "I got the jab" [22:29] schestowitz "now you!" [22:29] schestowitz "What, you didnt ask any questions at all? What about whether youre being microchipped by Bill Gates? And the risks of 5G with the vaccine? And" [22:29] schestowitz Straw man arguments [22:29] schestowitz this is what they do [22:30] schestowitz talking about conspiracy crap [22:30] schestowitz when the real scandal is the profiteering [22:30] schestowitz "Conspiracy stuff will just get you blocked and possibly reported with no interaction, so dont do that." [22:30] schestowitz So anything other than this... "CONSPIRACY" [22:30] schestowitz this is what they want people to assume [22:30] schestowitz after developing something in a rush [22:30] schestowitz and then some people blog to help them [22:31] schestowitz " And the risks of 5G with the vaccine? " [22:31] schestowitz WTF? [22:31] vZS1_2 They can't stop time. [22:32] vZS1_2 Time will tell what these "vaccines" do [22:32] schestowitz Looks like Daniel who was expelled by Debian is now on Gentoo https://daniel-lange.com/archives/169-Compiling-and-installing-the-Gentoo-Linux-kernel-on-emerge-without-genkernel.html [22:32] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://daniel-lange.com/archives/169-Compiling-and-installing-the-Gentoo-Linux-kernel-on-emerge-without-genkernel.html ) [22:32] schestowitz we covered what Debian did to him [22:32] vZS1_2 What did they do to them and why? [22:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.03 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 12.43 swarm size (avg): 306.32 [22:33] techrights-bot Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147003 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [22:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [22:34] techrights-bot Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.2.4 RC 1 https://godotengine.org/article/release-candidate-godot-3-2-4-rc-1 #godotengine #deletegithub [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Release candidate: Godot 3.2.4 RC 1 [22:35] techrights-bot This is already infiltrated by #microsoft ... much like the rest of the #linuxfoundation https://www.linux.com/news/open-source-security-foundation-openssf-reflection-and-future/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Foundation [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open Source Security Foundation (OpenSSF): Reflection and Future - Linux.com [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation - Techrights [22:36] schestowitz vZS1_2: search techrights for his name [22:36] vZS1_2 Will do [22:36] vZS1_2 Getting cake first (: [22:36] schestowitz big loss for debian [22:36] schestowitz he is still a great dev [22:38] techrights-bot Games: Epic Games, Unvanquished, The Sundew, Dota 2 and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147004 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #games #gaming [22:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Epic Games, Unvanquished, The Sundew, Dota 2 and More | Tux Machines [22:39] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/09/01/daniel-lange-and-debian/ [22:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Daniel Lange and Debian, Aggression and Hypocrisy in Focus | Techrights [22:39] techrights-bot Daniel Lange is on #gentoo #gnu #linux now https://daniel-lange.com/archives/169-Compiling-and-installing-the-Gentoo-Linux-kernel-on-emerge-without-genkernel.html see http://techrights.org/2020/09/01/daniel-lange-and-debian/ [22:40] schestowitz also http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debconf-aggression/ [22:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Daniel Lange and Debian: DebConf, Aggression Towards Volunteers | Techrights [22:40] techrights-bot Why does #debian want to drive away some of the very best devs? http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debconf-aggression/ [22:41] DaemonFC[m] I was reading over what the terms are before the US government lets me out of my I-864 Affidavit of Support. [22:42] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: let's talk tech [22:42] schestowitz immigration isn't the topic here [22:42] DaemonFC[m] It ends when Mandy either pays 40 credits into Social Security (currently $1,470 each), I die, or he becomes a citizen. I'm going to fast track the third option. [22:43] techrights-bot #GNU #Parted 3.4 Released With Support For #F2FS File-System http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146977#comment-28001 #FreeSW [22:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | parted-3.4 released [stable] | Tux Machines [22:43] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Social Security has been trying to modernize their IT for years, but it's almost as much of a disaster as the IRS. [22:43] schestowitz we can talk about their tech [22:43] DaemonFC[m] The Death Master File runs on (emulated) IBM mainframe software that goes back into the 1960s, written in COBOL. [22:44] DaemonFC[m] From what I've heard. Which is similar to what's going on at the IRS. [22:45] DaemonFC[m] Felta (dad) was talking about applying for a position at NASA. There's suddenly a run on demand for anyone who still remembers COBOL. [22:45] schestowitz yes, they train for it still [22:45] DaemonFC[m] Microsoft has successfully fooled people into turning themselves into commodities that are in an oversaturated market for high level programming languages that they have patents on. [22:46] DaemonFC[m] As a result, nobody really focuses on what will pay a lot of money. [22:47] DaemonFC[m] IBM is a fucking catastrophe, and the news barely touches it. It makes it sound like they have minor problems that will be easy to brush off as soon as COVID is out of the way. [22:47] DaemonFC[m] They have structural problems decades in the making when hardly anyone knew what a coronavirus was. [22:47] vZS1_2 I see Debian dying in the next 5-10 years. [22:47] vZS1_2 Because of Red Hat [22:47] schestowitz vZS1_2: it bothers me to see those vaccine posts [22:47] schestowitz more than it bothers me to see conspiracy nuts [22:47] vZS1_2 Because of IBM [22:47] vZS1_2 So IBM could possibly kill Debian [22:48] schestowitz because they amplify this ludicrous idea that all who ask questions about expedited crap are total loonies [22:48] DaemonFC[m] Debian depends too much on software that is not under their control. [22:48] schestowitz true [22:48] vZS1_2 IBM already killed CentOS [22:48] DaemonFC[m] They voted themselves into this mess thinking that it would free up resources better spent somewhere else, and now they're locked into someone else's standards, security disasters and bugs and all. [22:49] vZS1_2 Where would they spend resources? They're a distribution. [22:49] techrights-bot Mozilla Privacy Blog: Five issues shaping data, tech and privacy in the African region in 2021 https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/01/27/five-issues-shaping-data-tech-and-privacy-in-the-african-region-in-2021/ but #mozilla does not value #privacy is largely funded by mass #surveillance firm, #google [22:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Five issues shaping data, tech and privacy in the African region in 2021 - Open Policy & Advocacy [22:49] vZS1_2 They don't develop core software apart from the package manager [22:49] DaemonFC[m] systemd, in the end, did not make my computer more reliable or easier to administer than it was when I had upstart. [22:50] vZS1_2 schestowitz: I don't know what you can do about the #igotacovidvaccinetoo brigade [22:50] vZS1_2 s/you/we/ [22:50] vZS1_2 systemd makes a dynamic mess of files on the system [22:50] DaemonFC[m] Everyone is getting COVID and the US economy is dead no matter what they want to say about it. [22:51] DaemonFC[m] People fucking throwing money betting on how dead and who is dead a little sooner than the rest. [22:51] vZS1_2 If you keep track of all the files systemd is creating and destroying, you'll see what I mean [22:51] DaemonFC[m] Then the government is all pissed off that the people betting on what parts of the economy die off faster got burned by some kids on Reddit. [22:51] techrights-bot Boosting lots of #Microsoft employees like they're not key authorities and experts on the very thing they're attacking https://www.fosslife.org/4-ways-improve-your-open-source-strategy [22:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | 4 Ways to Improve Your Open Source Strategy [22:52] vZS1_2 But it's not just systemd [22:52] vZS1_2 It's a lot of other stuff too [22:52] vZS1_2 PAM [22:52] vZS1_2 dbus [22:52] vZS1_2 networkmanager [22:52] DaemonFC[m] To the point where the US is now pressuring trading platforms to stop free trading activities on entire companies so that hedge funds don't lose more money on speculative bets. [22:52] techrights-bot #OpenSSF has been put at the hands of a back doors company that attacks Free software http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/openssf-microsoft/ [22:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Microsoft in Charge, OpenSSF Seems More Like Its About Back Doors Not Real Security Inside the Linux Foundation | Techrights [22:53] DaemonFC[m] In one month, the curtain has been pulled back and we see what's really behind it. The government says we have free markets, then when billionaires lose money betting in the markets, the government simply halts trading. [22:53] vZS1_2 Red Hat also have people injecting code straight into the Linux kernel [22:53] DaemonFC[m] They say free speech and then when you use it, you get de-platformed. [22:54] DaemonFC[m] There's just enough muddying of the waters to hide the fact that the government is behind it. Social media companies didn't start de-platforming people just to watch their own stocks and revenues go down. [22:55] vZS1_2 At least you can still choose what you include in your kernel before you compile it. [22:55] DaemonFC[m] They spent years promoting extremism with their algorithms to "drive up engagement" and profits. [22:55] vZS1_2 But how many people still compile their own kernels... [22:55] techrights-bot #microsoft #iis share collapses another 4 percent in just one month. They're going nowhere fast https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2021/01/28/january-2021-web-server-survey.html see http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/windows-servers-dying-breed/ [22:55] DaemonFC[m] Probably nobody now that mjg59 helped their computer throw a "security policy violation" instead of booting the kernel. [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.netcraft.com | January 2021 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News [22:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows/IIS Down Again (Across All Server Categories), Merely Living/Surviving on Borrowed Time | Techrights [22:56] DaemonFC[m] I can't tell you who is still running IIS unless it's on some old system that they don't want to pay to do anything with until the last minute. [22:56] schestowitz [22:53] Red Hat also have people injecting code straight into the Linux kernel [22:56] schestowitz Even patches from NSA [22:56] schestowitz entered using redhat.com accounts [22:56] schestowitz they told me [22:57] schestowitz saw nothing wrong with it [22:57] vZS1_2 On my critical systems, I compile the kernel without the whole networking branch [22:57] vZS1_2 The ones that stay off the net [22:57] DaemonFC[m] I'm sure part of the point of not providing broken out patches was to make it easier to slip in bad code from spying agencies without making it obvious where that would be. [22:58] DaemonFC[m] That was the start of Red Hat going bad. "You don't need to know how the kernel works.". [22:58] vZS1_2 The kernel is also growing considerably [22:58] schestowitz concern shared by the hackers [22:58] schestowitz kernel hackers that is [22:58] vZS1_2 I keep seeing new options to select when configuring a new kernel build [22:58] schestowitz one comes to mind: [22:59] schestowitz Con Kolivas [22:59] DaemonFC[m] Then now it's the entire RHEL system. They move their source repos to GitHub. Eventually, they could only agree to provide source RPMs to the people who get the software directly from them and then revoke their Red Hat subscription if they give it to anyone else. [22:59] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/08/22/linux-bloat-meme/ [22:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Linux is Becoming a Code Burial Ground, Sometimes at the Expense of Size and Complexity (Bloat) | Techrights [22:59] DaemonFC[m] The GPL doesn't seem to protect again that case. [22:59] DaemonFC[m] *against ● Jan 28 [23:00] vZS1_2 GPL isn't really the answer to this [23:00] vZS1_2 It's education that is the answer [23:00] DaemonFC[m] IBM has invested billions into Linux, into turning it into another proprietary UNIX. [23:00] vZS1_2 Users need to be educated about what's sitting inside their OS [23:01] vZS1_2 >DaemonFC[m] IBM has invested billions into Linux, into turning it into another proprietary UNIX. [23:01] vZS1_2 Red Hat already did it. IBM bought it. [23:01] DaemonFC[m] Yes, "investing". [23:01] techrights-bot #billgates -connected publisher celebrating dead #microsoft products... a decade later https://www.theverge.com/22238668/microsoft-zune-fans-mp3-music-player-subreddit [23:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft killed the Zune, but Zune-heads are still here - The Verge [23:01] DaemonFC[m] Oh, you thought that meant something that benefits "Linux"? :) [23:02] vZS1_2 That's why I'm so concerned about Linux, in general. [23:02] vZS1_2 IBM are great at destroying things [23:02] vZS1_2 especially things they own [23:02] techrights-bot #ibm is all #clownWashing or #cloudwashing these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o28kWyxoiV8 #clownComputing [23:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intro to IBM Cloud Hyper Protect Services - YouTube [23:03] vZS1_2 Microsoft may own LF but they don't have real inside pull that IBM have [23:03] vZS1_2 LF is just propaganda [23:03] vZS1_2 IBM has actual power because of all the code they now control [23:04] vZS1_2 Virtually every popular GNU/Linux distro relies on Red Hat code to function [23:05] vZS1_2 Pull any of them out and those distros will cease to function [23:05] vZS1_2 Arch, Debian, Ubuntu, etc. [23:05] vZS1_2 That's the lion share of users [23:06] DaemonFC[m] Canonical is eating into Red Hat's marketshare. [23:06] DaemonFC[m] But yes, they foolishly depend on Red Hat's leftovers, by way of Debian. [23:06] vZS1_2 Canonical is boosting Red Hat. [23:06] vZS1_2 Just in a different way [23:06] vZS1_2 Making Red Hat code more popular [23:07] schestowitz gnome [23:07] schestowitz wayland [23:07] schestowitz the latter is the latest [23:07] schestowitz it's becoming another fedora [23:07] vZS1_2 And btw [23:07] vZS1_2 This isn't solely a GNU/Linux problem [23:07] schestowitz systemd was adopted because debian had caved [23:07] vZS1_2 Even BSDs now have to support Red Hat code [23:08] vZS1_2 Because a lot of programs have dependencies on things like PAM and dbus [23:08] vZS1_2 And that's 100% Red Hat [23:08] vZS1_2 This is much bigger than just systemd [23:08] techrights-bot Three more pieces about #sudo flaw and patch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146917#comment-28002 [23:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Another Sudo Root Privilege Escalation Vulnerability Got Patched, Update Now | Tux Machines [23:10] vZS1_2 https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/is-dbus-really-needed.24589/ [23:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.freebsd.org | Is dbus really needed? | The FreeBSD Forums [23:10] vZS1_2 That's from back in 2011 [23:10] vZS1_2 It's already been 10 years since [23:11] vZS1_2 Think of all the other dependencies on Red Hat code that snuck into FreeBSD [23:11] vZS1_2 Other BSDs suffer the same [23:11] techrights-bot NEWS #CommonDreams '100 Seconds to Midnight': Doomsday Clock Reveals Humanity Closer Than Ever to the Apocalypse https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/01/27/100-seconds-midnight-doomsday-clock-reveals-humanity-closer-ever-apocalypse "Citizens must "demand... that their governments reorder their priorities and cooperate... to reduce the risk of nuclear war" [23:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | '100 Seconds to Midnight': Doomsday Clock Reveals Humanity Closer Than Ever to the Apocalypse | Common Dreams News [23:17] techrights-bot Static analysis updates in GCC 11 - Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2021/01/28/static-analysis-updates-in-gcc-11/ #developers #redhat #ibm #gnu #gcc [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Static analysis updates in GCC 11 - Red Hat Developer [23:17] techrights-bot #OPNsense 21.1 Marvelous Meerkat Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147005 #security #bsd [23:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | OPNsense 21.1 Marvelous Meerkat Released | Tux Machines [23:19] techrights-bot #llvm doesn't mind #proprietarySoftware and its reluctance to #deletegithub is evidence of that. Use #gnu / #gcc instead https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=LLVM-12.0-RC1-Released [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LLVM 12.0-RC1 Available For Testing This Latest Open-Source Compiler - Phoronix [23:20] techrights-bot Daniel Stenberg of #curl trying to defend outsourcing his project to #microsoft ... and to a #proprietarySoftware #monopoly https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/01/28/what-if-github-is-the-devil/ [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What if GitHub is the devil? | daniel.haxx.se [23:23] techrights-bot #aws or #amazon may have ambitions to dominate #gnu #linux https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cribl-achieves-amazon-linux-2-ready-designation-301216995.html #bezos [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Cribl Achieves Amazon Linux 2 Ready Designation [23:24] DaemonFC[m] I've noticed that GitHub is not as active anymore. [23:24] DaemonFC[m] Didn't really need the facts and figures and graphs and pointy sticks to notice that the projects I care about have died or moved on. [23:25] techrights-bot When all you really needed wit #tor and not #systemd and #sudo and other bloat/convenience https://tails.boum.org/news/version_4.15.1/index.en.html [23:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tails.boum.org | Tails - Tails 4.15.1 is out [23:25] schestowitz vZS1_2: ^ [23:28] *aindilis has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:29] techrights-bot This really should blame Microsoft for hosting the code; this has nothing to do with Linux itself. Stop pretending GitHub is not Microsoft and blaming "Linux" for GitHub's failings. https://www.techradar.com/news/this-linux-malware-uses-open-source-software-to-hide-its-malicious-processes [23:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-This Linux malware uses open source software to hide its malicious processes | TechRadar [23:29] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [23:30] techrights-bot 2019: #GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? http://techrights.org/2019/07/14/blaming-canonical-for-github/ [23:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Microsofts Proprietary Software and Centralised (Monopoly) Platform, But When Canonicals Account There Gets Compromised Suddenly Its Ubuntus Fault? | Techrights [23:30] *aindilis` (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [23:30] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:31] techrights-bot The LTS #Linux #Kernel 5.10 To Be Maintained For Only 2 Years If Companies Dont Help Support It http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146957#comment-28003 [23:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.10 LTS Status and More Stables Releases of Linux Announced Today | Tux Machines [23:32] *aindilis` has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:33] techrights-ipfs IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 15.75 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 11.10 swarm size (avg): 304.74 [23:33] techrights-bot Support added for #microsoft #swpats submarine, ambushing #gnu #linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/146889#comment-28004 see http://techrights.org/2019/03/12/microsoft-foxconn/ [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GParted 1.2.0 Released | Tux Machines [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Complaining About Android and Chrome OS (GNU/Linux) Vendor Not Paying for Microsoft Patents (Updated) | Techrights [23:33] *aindilis (~aindilis@172-12-3-117.lightspeed.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [23:36] techrights-bot If you point out/call out #microsoft #infiltration and that 'interferes' with #lies such as #MicrosoftLovesLinux they'd invoke "CoC" to portray you as toxic for interfering with their agenda. The #freesw community is under attack; its freedom of speech likewise. [23:36] *kupi has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:37] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cknjqmjrxwpkvwqw) has joined #techrights [23:37] *Glyphie44___ has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [23:37] techrights-bot #ibm uses #redhat brand (trademark) to make it seem like it's #freesw -friendly while IBM's own policies (overriding anything "Red Hat") do the demolition job. See #centos [23:37] *Glyphie44____ (sid163528@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqpgvlivwjqvsgja) has joined #techrights [23:37] techrights-bot "I've noticed that #GitHub is not as active anymore. Didn't really need the facts and figures and graphs and pointy sticks to notice that the projects I care about have died or moved on." -Ryan at #techrights minutes ago [23:38] schestowitz DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights [23:38] techrights-bot #Deletegithub is working http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ but #twitter seems to be censoring it: http://techrights.org/2021/01/28/twitter-censorship-regime/ [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter is Hiding Techrights and Partly Shadowbans Yours Truly | Techrights [23:39] techrights-bot #mozilla keeps pretending that #firefox values your #privacy https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/four-ways-to-protect-your-data-privacy/ it does not. Neither Mozilla nor Firefox care: http://techrights.org/2019/11/03/the-privacy-scam/ [23:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Four ways to protect your data privacy and still be online | The Firefox Frontier [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Facebook and Other Surveillance Capitalists Wont Save Mozilla From Google Dependence | Techrights [23:40] techrights-bot Not sacked by #mozilla : the people who put #surveillance inside #firefox to 'monetise' of "learn" users https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2021/01/27/this-week-in-glean-the-glean-dictionary/ [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | This Week in Glean: The Glean Dictionary Data@Mozilla [23:41] DaemonFC[m] schestowitz: Brave seems to be better than Mozilla these days. [23:42] techrights-bot "Firefox 85 declares war on supercookies, enables link preloading and adds improved developer tools (just in time, since Google's playing games with Chromium users again)." And #google REMAINS the sugar daddy of #mozilla https://www.talospace.com/2021/01/firefox-85-on-power.html [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.talospace.com | Firefox 85 on POWER [23:43] techrights-bot #Mozilla Attack & Defense: Effectively Fuzzing the IPC Layer in #Firefox https://blog.mozilla.org/attack-and-defense/2021/01/27/effectively-fuzzing-the-ipc-layer-in-firefox/ [23:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Effectively Fuzzing the IPC Layer in Firefox Attack & Defense [23:43] DaemonFC[m] I like that it doesn't have Mozilla's constant nags and telemetry everywhere and that it doesn't make decisions for you about which search engine is the default or whether you participate in Brave Rewards or not. [23:43] DaemonFC[m] Rewards is completely optional and if you turn it off, it just behaves like any browser with an ad blocker in it. [23:44] techrights-bot Arduino Blog - Flip this DIY hourglass over and watch its LEDs fall like sand https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/28/flip-this-diy-hourglass-over-and-watch-the-leds-fall-like-sand/ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking [23:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Arduino Blog Flip this DIY hourglass over and watch its LEDs fall like sand [23:45] techrights-bot Start #programming in Racket by writing a "guess the number" game https://opensource.com/article/21/1/racket-guess-number [23:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Start programming in Racket by writing a "guess the number" game | Opensource.com [23:48] techrights-bot There Is Another Attempt At Allowing Zstd-Compressed Firmware For The Linux Kernel http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147006 #kernel #linux #deletegithub #facebook [23:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | There Is Another Attempt At Allowing Zstd-Compressed Firmware For The Linux Kernel | Tux Machines [23:50] techrights-bot "If you are on Network Solutions, check your domains this morning, please. I'm just a "little" site, and I bet a lot of them were attacked in a similar fashion." http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2021/01/floodgapcom-down-due-to-domain-squatter.html [23:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tenfourfox.blogspot.com | TenFourFox Development: Floodgap.com down due to domain squatter attack on Network Solutions [23:51] techrights-bot #mozilla #rustlang totally and thoroughly outsourced to #microsoft #proprietarySoftware (all the links boost an abusive monopoly, an attack on Free software) https://this-week-in-rust.org/blog/2021/01/27/this-week-in-rust-375/ [23:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-this-week-in-rust.org | This Week in Rust 375 This Week in Rust [23:52] techrights-bot Glad to see that the #deletegithub push has at least compelled the #curl project to issue a statement (very long one) on the matter. It's working. Keep pushing. #microsoft #monopoly [23:53] techrights-bot #deletegithub isn't a lost cause. #github is suffering. Staff leaves, they make some face-saving BS about "Arctic Vault" to distract from money-grabbing ICE contracts. http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/ [23:54] techrights-bot #microsoft profits a LOT from #racism ... hence their attempt to #googlebomb the topic [23:55] techrights-bot #FOSSlife Team (LPI) boosting trolls https://www.fosslife.org/new-organization-ethical-source-established see http://techrights.org/2021/01/19/unethical-source/ [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | New Organization for Ethical Source Established [23:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Ethical Source is Not Ethical and Not a Movement But a Misguided Self-Serving PR Stunt | Techrights [23:56] techrights-bot So ironic that Red Hat wrote this blog post while IBM compels all staff to use #espionage -ware known as SLACK https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/considering-privacy-work-home-world #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [23:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Considering privacy in a work from home world [23:57] techrights-bot Racist #IBM once again polluting the signal by pretending that it cares for black people https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/command-line-heroes-profiles-eight-black-tech-inventors-you-probably-havent-heard-changed-world #redhat staff, learn IBM history: http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Command Line Heroes profiles eight Black tech inventors you (probably) havent heard of that changed the world [23:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBMs Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights [23:58] techrights-bot #Ubuntu Blog: Want to publish a snap? Heres a list of dos and donts https://ubuntu.com//blog/want-to-publish-a-snap-heres-a-list-of-dos-and-donts snappin' snappin' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8a5TE4hurg&t=354s [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Want to publish a snap? Heres a list of dos and donts | Ubuntu [23:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[1 HOUR LOOP/ 1] CHUNG HA () - Snapping - YouTube