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DaemonFC[m]They charge you like $2.50 to transfer money to a real bank, so I just got rid of the remaining balance by putting a credit on my phone bill.Jul 28 00:00
DaemonFC[m]I was only using it because a lawyer I noticed answered someone that he's never seen someone come in and tell them their prepaid debit card was being garnished.Jul 28 00:01
DaemonFC[m]Now that I've gone through bankruptcy, no lawsuits waiting to happen....so yeah.Jul 28 00:01
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "Chicago seems like the next Detr"> They can't file bankruptcy unless Illinois passes a state law allowing for it.Jul 28 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It would be an interesting bankruptcy though. The court has to apply state law and the pensions would survive because the Illinois Constitution guarantees them.Jul 28 00:02
DaemonFC[m]Maybe we can donate the Christopher Columbus and Italo Balbo statutes to our creditors. Just a thought.Jul 28 00:03
DaemonFC[m]Assets: "Crumbling bridges. Police cars that Ford hasn't even made in 10 years. This gift that an Italian Blackshirt gave us this one time."Jul 28 00:05
DaemonFC[m]Liabilities: "See attached 987,000 pages."Jul 28 00:05
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's possible that they pass a state law allowing for municipal bankruptcy in Illinois, when all the cities are maxed out anyway.Jul 28 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Won't be much longer.Jul 28 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Of course, nearly all of them will do it at the same time.Jul 28 00:11
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schestowitzhttps://www.computerworld.com/article/3568356/addigy-ceo-is-bullish-on-apple-silicon-and-macs-in-the-enterprise.htmlJul 28 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Addigy CEO is bullish on Apple Silicon and Macs in the enterprise | ComputerworldJul 28 00:38
schestowitzwtf is "apple silicon"Jul 28 00:38
schestowitzI saw it 3 times in 2 daysJul 28 00:39
schestowitzdoes apple make solicon nowJul 28 00:39
schestowitzis it silicon made of apples?Jul 28 00:39
schestowitzwhy now iSiliconJul 28 00:39
schestowitzeverything is being branded "i" and AppleJul 28 00:39
schestowitzeven materialsJul 28 00:39
schestowitzwhich apple does NOT makeJul 28 00:39
schestowitzthis is insane cult-likeJul 28 00:39
schestowitzMS BS sites try to get people to switch from bash to monopolist https://virtualizationreview.com/articles/2020/07/27/bash-powershell-cheat-sheet.aspxJul 28 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-virtualizationreview.com | Bash to PowerShell Cheat Sheet -- Virtualization ReviewJul 28 00:40
schestowitzalso here https://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2020/07/27/blazor-targets-net-5.aspxJul 28 00:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-visualstudiomagazine.com | Blazor WebAssembly Targets .NET 5 in Latest ASP.NET Core Update -- Visual Studio MagazineJul 28 00:41
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MinceRthings were branded 'i' even before crApple started :>Jul 28 01:04
MinceRlike the Linksys iPhoneJul 28 01:04
schestowitztrueJul 28 01:14
DaemonFC[m]Or iCal.Jul 28 01:30
DaemonFC[m]"The economy is once again teetering on the edge of a so-called fiscal cliff. Investors don't seem to care."Jul 28 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Why would they? The investor is The Fed?Jul 28 01:30
DaemonFC[m]It's a captive audience for zombie corporations and their debt and stock now.Jul 28 01:31
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DaemonFC[m]"Economists are currently predicting a 35% annualized contraction in the US economy for the second quarter. Jul 28 01:32
DaemonFC[m]That data will be released Thursday. The hope is that will be the worst quarter of this coronavirus-induced recession. But what if it isn't?"Jul 28 01:32
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, a 35% contraction in the second quarter, but 20% say the country is on the right track with a strong economy.Jul 28 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Trump Kool Aid all the way to the end.Jul 28 01:33
DaemonFC[m]"Some experts warn that consumer spending could dry up if there isn't a sufficient level of new stimulus."Jul 28 01:34
DaemonFC[m]$1,200 one time check to go to the 30% unemployed that just got a $400 a week unemployment cut from the Republicans, who are worried about "hyperinflation" with 0.5% interest rates on 10 year Treasuries and 30% unemployment.Jul 28 01:35
DaemonFC[m]"The delegation of addressing the pandemic to the states, and what can fairly be described as the abdication of any responsibility for the pandemic on the part of the federal government, have contributed to a debilitating sense of policy uncertainty that is dampening economic activity," said Joseph Brusuelas, chief economist with RSM US LLP, in a report earlier this month. Jul 28 01:36
DaemonFC[m]TL;DR: Wall Street admits that Trump has been worse than useless during the pandemic, and a liability to the states that want it to be under control.Jul 28 01:36
DaemonFC[m]"The Federal Reserve has already slashed interest rates to zero and launched trillions of dollars in lending programs. Jul 28 01:38
DaemonFC[m]The market continues to believe that the Fed can (and will) do even more if necessary. Fed chair Jerome Powell is likely to be asked about the Jul 28 01:38
DaemonFC[m]possibility of more stimulus at a press conference on Wednesday. "Jul 28 01:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: Jul 28 02:45
schestowitz[02:40] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): US passes 150k #covid19 deaths and UK passes 300k cases (not specifying number of recoveries). Upside: smallest number of deaths reported since mid March. Maybe national recovery possible, foreseen. [https://pleroma.site/objects/d83cf926-e657-4876-a0b3-8d4b1e814bf7]Jul 28 02:45
schestowitz[02:43] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Among large countries US is only second (to Chile) in terms of #covid19 cases per capita [https://pleroma.site/objects/d2c67929-b24c-467e-82ea-def954039d47]Jul 28 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 28 02:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 28 02:45
schestowitzUS citizens will be seen as risky to let into a countryJul 28 02:46
schestowitzhigh probability of being a carrierJul 28 02:46
schestowitzChile is losing lots of peopleJul 28 02:46
schestowitzsooner or later it can become "world leader"Jul 28 02:46
DaemonFC[m]I still haven't had it.Jul 28 02:46
schestowitzlucky youJul 28 02:47
schestowitzargh...Jul 28 02:49
schestowitzsome idiot qanon drones link to techrights articles about gates againJul 28 02:50
schestowitzlike I need to be associated with these emptyheads...Jul 28 02:50
schestowitzbut I don't control who links, so...Jul 28 02:50
schestowitz64 deaths in little BoliviaJul 28 02:51
schestowitzbut Chile is still way ahead of themJul 28 02:51
schestowitzMexico alsoJul 28 02:51
DaemonFC[m]50 bankruptcies in the Chicago federal court today.Jul 28 02:58
DaemonFC[m]People mostly keeping their powder dry.Jul 28 02:58
DaemonFC[m]Might as well wait until the last minute with these.Jul 28 02:58
DaemonFC[m]Take out as much debt as possible with it.Jul 28 02:58
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/kYK8v3y.jpgJul 28 10:54
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psydreadthat's still a great storyJul 28 13:06
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/PYIeZuW.jpgJul 28 17:31
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cybrNauthttps://9to5mac.com/2020/07/27/following-security-breach-report-says-twitter-contractors-have-been-caught-spying-on-accounts-in-the-past/Jul 28 18:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Following security breach, report says Twitter contractors have been caught spying on accounts in the past - 9to5MacJul 28 18:04
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schestowitzthat's just how social control media worksJul 28 18:08
smnthermeshttps://github.com/openbsd/src/commit/5bde2954c180034a27b079acaff46073dc75139bJul 28 18:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-some language improvements; ok markus · openbsd/src@5bde295 · GitHubJul 28 18:08
smnthermesOofJul 28 18:08
schestowitzand why it's better off avoidedJul 28 18:08
XRevan86ok, marcusJul 28 18:09
schestowitzSlaves become clients. Capitalist-approved.Jul 28 18:10
XRevan86I wonder who's markusJul 28 18:10
XRevan86I can't help but notice that "master" is kept in tact.Jul 28 18:10
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DaemonFC[m]Hmm, Ubuntu is compiling Firefox with Clang.Jul 28 18:15
DaemonFC[m]I remember Steve Jobs asking the FSF to relicense GCC to allow them to make an Objective C compiler that was proprietaryJul 28 18:17
MinceR"what's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable"Jul 28 18:17
DaemonFC[m]The answer was no and that's why there's a GPL licensed Objective C compiler. Jul 28 18:17
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'm not sure what the value of a proprietary Objective C compiler was.Jul 28 18:18
DaemonFC[m]There's no notable Free Software applications written in it.Jul 28 18:19
DaemonFC[m]LLVM obviously allows proprietary compiler frontends but most important languages have free implementations.Jul 28 18:19
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DaemonFC[m]I suspect that Clang on all platforms at Mozilla was made to get uniformity across their builders. Jul 28 18:20
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: presumable crApple would have sold it to their hostagesJul 28 18:21
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DaemonFC[m]"Clang becomes the only C compiler in the FreeBSD base system, with the removal of GCC.[53]"Jul 28 18:23
DaemonFC[m]Well, they crippled GCC by holding it back to the last GPL2 release.Jul 28 18:23
DaemonFC[m]It still supports being built with GCC, but you have to get that from Ports.Jul 28 18:24
DaemonFC[m]"Deprecated the mpx feature flag for the Intel MPX instructions. There were noJul 28 18:25
DaemonFC[m]intrinsics for this feature." -Clang 10 release notes.Jul 28 18:25
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, GCC dropped MPX too. More idiotic instructions from Intel that were added and then deprecated immediately. Jul 28 18:26
DaemonFC[m]"Even though Intel MPX is a specially designed hardware-assisted approach, it is not faster than the software-based approaches. New Intel MPX instructions can cause up to 4× slowdown in the worst case, although compiler optimizations amortize it and lead to runtime overheads of ~50% on average."Jul 28 18:28
DaemonFC[m]"Lastly, MPX instructions incur significant performance penalty (15+%) even on earlier Intel CPU generations without MPX support (e.g., Haswell)."Jul 28 18:28
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DaemonFC[m]It's slower than software-based memory sanity checks, and if you use it, it will even slow down your program on processors without MPX, even though it will have no security benefits there at all.Jul 28 18:29
DaemonFC[m]Further, it hampers threaded applications and may cause them to do weird things.Jul 28 18:30
DaemonFC[m]:)Jul 28 18:30
DaemonFC[m]Even with reduced testing, Florida is still managing to crank out about 10,000 confirmed COVID-19 cases each day.Jul 28 18:32
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DaemonFC[m]Which means that there are definitely over 100,000 still, because CDC was saying 10% of all cases nationally are being diagnosed, with the other 90% being asymptomatic or too afraid of going near a doctor for the usual "Arm, leg, eye, kidney, and testicle" medical bill.Jul 28 18:33
DaemonFC[m]WITH insurance, it was costing John $263 to talk to the doctor for 10 minute so she could go "Yup yup! You still have high blood pressure!" and call in refills for a $2 a month medication.Jul 28 18:34
DaemonFC[m]Then he stopped taking the meds because it was making him go limp when he was meeting people on Grindr in a restroom stall somewhere. Jul 28 18:35
MinceRhttps://files.catbox.moe/0b46rs.pngJul 28 18:35
DaemonFC[m]I was like "Why are you having nosebleeds again?". He says, "I'm not taking my blood pressure medication anymore.". I say, "Why not?" He's like, "I don't want to pay to see the doctor.". I said, "You only have to go once every 6 months and you make $50,000 a year after tax. What's the big deal?".Jul 28 18:36
DaemonFC[m]We had paid $500 to have his nose cauterized after we got the blood pressure under control the last time.Jul 28 18:36
DaemonFC[m]Only talking to my mom later did I find out what the meds do to some men.Jul 28 18:36
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Time to ban the Navy, I guess.Jul 28 18:37
DaemonFC[m]"In addition, a review concluded MPX was not production ready, and AddressSanitizer was a better option.[7] A review by Kostya Serebryany at Google, AddressSanitizer's developer,[21] had similar findings.[22]"Jul 28 18:37
DaemonFC[m]"Another study [23] exploring the scope of Spectre and Meltdown security vulnerabilities discovered that Meltdown can be used to bypass Intel MPX, using the Bound Range Exceeded (#BR) hardware exception. Jul 28 18:38
DaemonFC[m]According to their publication, the researchers were able to leak information through a Flush+Reload covert channel from an out-of-bound access on an array safeguarded by the MPX system. Their Proof Of Concept has not been publicly disclosed."Jul 28 18:38
DaemonFC[m]Well, other people should easily be able to reproduce that knowing that it's there.Jul 28 18:39
DaemonFC[m]How did MPX ever get into a shipping product?Jul 28 18:39
MinceRsuits.Jul 28 18:39
DaemonFC[m]It's beyond useless. It adds instructions and registers that won't be used by anything now.Jul 28 18:39
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I edited the article lead in to summarize that it "claimed to bring enhanced security to applications" although there were "far too many problems in the design for it to be useful" and that "support has been deprecated and removed from most compilers and operating systems".Jul 28 18:48
DaemonFC[m]My edit summary used the word limit, almost. I even mentioned how ridiculous it was to slow programs down by 15% even on processors that don't support MPX, which is as recent as 2015 for Intel, as well as all AMD processors.Jul 28 18:49
DaemonFC[m]This rather seems to be some retarded bullshit that Intel jammed in there without vetting it as a great way to make competing chips and their older stuff slower, and to the user....well who knows why...Jul 28 18:50
DaemonFC[m]They seem to like doing that.Jul 28 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Even better, they knew it would be years before it was generally deployed, and it would slow down chips that were already in the market and stuff that was soon to be released right when it was "time to upgrade" that.Jul 28 18:51
DaemonFC[m]You'll never get the Linux developers to admit that this is probably what was actually going on and Intel was using MPX for anticompetitive purposes and sabotage, and then spraying air freshener over it by calling it security.Jul 28 18:53
scientes> Jul 28 18:53
scientesAs Alex McDonald notes in this support request, Google has recently banned the old Usenet groups comp.lang.forth and comp.lang.lisp from the Google Groups system. "Of specific concern is the archive. These are some of the oldest groups on Usenet, and the depth & breadth of the historical material that has just disappeared from the internet, on two seminal programming languages, is huge and highly damaging. These are the history and collective Jul 28 18:53
scientesmemories of two communities that are being expunged, and it's not great, since there is no other comprehensive archive after Google's purchase of Dejanews around 20 years ago." Perhaps Google can be convinced to restore the content, but it also seems that some of this material could benefit from a more stable archive. Jul 28 18:53
scienteswtfJul 28 18:53
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I discovered a bad bug in KDE.Jul 28 18:54
DaemonFC[m]Ksysguard, the system monitor program, has columns that show you which programs are using how much bandwidth up and down.Jul 28 18:54
DaemonFC[m]Neat, right?Jul 28 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Well, to do that, there's another application called ksysgrd_network_helper. Jul 28 18:55
DaemonFC[m]KDE starts that up to monitor programs and their network activity.Jul 28 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Most of the time, it's relatively benign. Sitting there dormant or using 1% or so CPU time.Jul 28 18:55
DaemonFC[m]But if you open up a bittorrent app or wget and point that at something, or use Firefox with the KDE helper and then download something, the "network helper" starts using 20-25% CPU.Jul 28 18:56
DaemonFC[m]Someone upstream committed a patch, but I have no idea when or if I'll get that.Jul 28 18:57
DaemonFC[m]So I tried getting rid of the upload download columns like the bug suggested, but then something kept starting the helper app anyway.Jul 28 18:57
DaemonFC[m]So I used mv to mv the binary itself to a renamed backup file, and then nothing could find and load it, and my CPU calmed down. :/Jul 28 18:58
DaemonFC[m]How do things like this find their way into a release? Much less a LTS release of KDE applications?Jul 28 18:58
DaemonFC[m]So the patch is still being debated because someone else chimed in that they didn't like that it was written in C and not C++ and didn't match the coding style of the rest of the application.Jul 28 18:59
DaemonFC[m]Okay, so now we're nit picking a patch that fixes a severe bug over whether it is written in C++ and coding styles.Jul 28 19:00
DaemonFC[m]Instead of plucking it, plugging the hole immediately, and debating whether the drapes match the carpet later on.Jul 28 19:00
psydread"Fix the damn coding style and commit it"Jul 28 19:00
psydreadbut I guess that's too hardJul 28 19:00
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's fixed for the developer who patched his system, so it's all good in the neighborhood.Jul 28 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Seems the GNOME people have influenced others.Jul 28 19:01
DaemonFC[m]This is an issue that should trigger an immediate point release of that application. Jul 28 19:02
DaemonFC[m]https://phabricator.kde.org/D29808Jul 28 19:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phabricator.kde.org | ⚙ D29808 KSysGuard Network Plugin: Don't use std::regex to parse the network files.Jul 28 19:02
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine why they would do it like this in the first place.Jul 28 19:03
smnthermesI wonder when will Mozilla get rid of userChrome.css and user.jsJul 28 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Epiphany's old ad blocker used regular expressions and it grinded the CPU so bad you could hardly use it when there was a page with many rules that needed to be applied....like Facebook.Jul 28 19:03
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: "buy a faster computer" is the "modern" approachJul 28 19:04
MinceRchampioned by microshit and crAppleJul 28 19:04
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Until that gets worked out I guess I could just keep deleting that binary each time ksysguard gets updated.Jul 28 19:05
DaemonFC[m]Bad workaround, but meh.Jul 28 19:05
psydread"buy a faster computer" is a great thing, as it allows us to pick up old machines that are able to run GNU/Linux for pennies on the dollar, so to speakJul 28 19:13
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psydreadin late 2018 I found a silent desktop with baytrail celeron and 8 gb of ddr3 and a 1tb hard drive with a monitor, keyboard and mouse for €15. I wiped backdoors and installed ubuntu and gave it to my niece for her birthdayJul 28 19:20
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DaemonFC[m]Isn't Bay Trail that one that Windows 10 stopped supporting?Jul 28 19:34
DaemonFC[m]https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-blocks-windows-10-creators-update-on-some-pcs/Jul 28 19:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft cuts off Windows 10 support early for some PCs | ZDNetJul 28 19:36
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft stranded them on Windows 10 build 1607.Jul 28 19:36
psydreadprobablyJul 28 19:37
psydreadit ran like crap on that machine anywayJul 28 19:38
psydreadI think it was even Windows 8 or somethingJul 28 19:38
DaemonFC[m]"A device may not be able to receive updates if the device hardware is incompatible, lacking current drivers, or otherwise outside of the Original Equipment Manufacturer's ("OEM") support period."Jul 28 19:38
DaemonFC[m]In other words, Windows 10 will not support your new laptop for 10 years. In fact, you may not even get 5 years, or 3.Jul 28 19:38
DaemonFC[m]But they bury it in the fine print.Jul 28 19:38
psydreadWindows as a disserviceJul 28 19:39
DaemonFC[m]There's a good reason most people didn't want to "upgrade". Windows 8.1 might actually still support a device (for 3 more years) that Windows 10 stopped support 1-2 years ago.Jul 28 19:40
DaemonFC[m]So if you refused the "upgrade" to Windows 10, Microsoft's support policy obligates them to keep rolling out at least security patches to your PC with Windows 8.1 on it.Jul 28 19:40
DaemonFC[m]They've been trying to move away from supporting the OS itself for a long time. If they have to support the OS itself, that means security updates for everything it runs on, for 10 years.Jul 28 19:41
DaemonFC[m]If they bury it somewhere that with Windows 10, you can be marooned on a random build and their support policy is "Too bad, so sad.", then it fixed their problem, and makes one for you.Jul 28 19:42
DaemonFC[m]I was talking to a bankruptcy lawyer before the one I hired and I asked her about some of my credit cards and would they really just go away. I was skeptical of filing bankruptcy.Jul 28 19:43
DaemonFC[m]She says, "Yeah, it's up to them to realize you're having financial problems and cut you off, otherwise they're liable for the expenses you're racking up. It's just too bad so sad.".Jul 28 19:43
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Well, with AI software they should be able to spot customers who pay their bills in full every month who suddenly start racking up lots of debt.".Jul 28 19:44
DaemonFC[m]She said, "They probably could, but so few people end up filing bankruptcy in the end, or make a lot of interest payments just to avoid being sued before they do file, that I just don't think that they care.".Jul 28 19:44
DaemonFC[m]Apparently, by the time most people come in there and admit that the problem has gotten so bad that they absolutely must file, the bank has made most of the actual money they loaned to them back in interest payments.Jul 28 19:45
psydreada few months ago I got some of these older laptops from 2015/6 and when some feature didn't work (like the touchpad on of of these devices so they added a mouse), I just told them I would figure it out (not telling them that they wouldn't be running Windows soon after)Jul 28 19:45
DaemonFC[m]Why would they care? Most customers don't even know what Linux is and a laptop with a touchpad that doesn't work at all with Windows isn't worth anything at that point.Jul 28 19:46
DaemonFC[m]It's not like anyone else can come along and make a driver that gets it working again, much less someone bargain shopping in a pawn store. Jul 28 19:47
psydreadI wouldn't want to make them any wiser that the hardware is actually fine and they could ask more money for it, it's better to leave them thinking it's garbageJul 28 19:48
DaemonFC[m]Touchpads are almost generic anyway. Jul 28 19:48
DaemonFC[m]I'm surprised that would be a problem on Windows 10.Jul 28 19:48
DaemonFC[m]Hardware vendors are some shifty bastards.Jul 28 19:49
DaemonFC[m]With Chromebook, you really need to figure out what PLATFORM Google says it runs on. You can find the support EOL date on the demo unit.Jul 28 19:49
DaemonFC[m]If it's like WAY into its support cycle, I would not recommend paying a significant amount of money for it.Jul 28 19:50
DaemonFC[m]They get like 5 years and they'll still sell these things on the shelf as new 3 years in.Jul 28 19:50
psydreadand as scientes said they won't even sell them in developing countriesJul 28 19:51
psydreadI was told that it's very difficult to even buy one in PolandJul 28 19:52
DaemonFC[m]Chromebooks?Jul 28 19:52
psydreadyesJul 28 19:52
DaemonFC[m]That's odd. You'd think that would be a prime market for a cheap laptop that does basic stuff just fine.Jul 28 19:52
DaemonFC[m]They stripped the OS down to nuts and bols and use zram and special tab suspension tricks to make it work great with 4 GB of RAM.Jul 28 19:53
DaemonFC[m]I think I might have been the one to suggest porting Brave Adblock as the Vivaldi Ad Blocker.Jul 28 19:54
DaemonFC[m]Because one of them said thanks for the feedback and they'd look into it.Jul 28 19:54
DaemonFC[m]Then a preview build appeared a week later with that feature.Jul 28 19:55
DaemonFC[m]I don't really care if Vivaldi is proprietary. Having a working ad blocker in as many web browsers as possible is just a good thing in general.Jul 28 19:55
DaemonFC[m]Google's trying to break ad blocking in Chrome. I suppose Adguard DNS will probably be what you have to do on a Chromebook eventually.Jul 28 19:56
psydreadit's a symptom that malware went from the operating system (as we moved to GNU/Linux) to the internet itself and one I'm quite unhappy aboutJul 28 19:57
DaemonFC[m]Chrome has an unfair advantage on Chrome OS even if you can technically run other browsers on it now.Jul 28 19:58
DaemonFC[m]No other browser is directly tied in to the memory manager. Jul 28 19:58
DaemonFC[m]In Windows 98, there was something similar. IE benefited from reusing parts of the Windows 98 shell that were already loaded.Jul 28 19:59
DaemonFC[m]So it started up faster and used less memory. However, after removing IE and using the Windows 95 B shell, the memory usage dropped by 11 MB (In a computer with 64 or maybe 128, tops, it mattered!).Jul 28 20:00
psydreadI remember that, but Firefox was the first thing I installed anyway and for all of my friends and relativesJul 28 20:00
DaemonFC[m]So it wasn't really using less memory than Netscape or Opera. It just got to hide a lot of it in this new shell that was really bloated and already running.Jul 28 20:00
DaemonFC[m]I loved the "classic" Opera browser.Jul 28 20:01
DaemonFC[m]It was just really really small and a full web platform in just several MB.Jul 28 20:01
DaemonFC[m]Proprietary, yeah, but the fact that it could do so much and was such a small program was cool.Jul 28 20:01
psydreadthat one was something special indeedJul 28 20:01
DaemonFC[m]You can't really find an efficient browser today.Jul 28 20:02
DaemonFC[m]Supporting the web platform as it exists now is impossible to do efficiently.Jul 28 20:02
DaemonFC[m]The browser itself is like a second operating system just to deal with all of this nonsense.Jul 28 20:02
DaemonFC[m]That new Opera is just terrible.Jul 28 20:03
DaemonFC[m]The "free VPN" admit that it's spying on you, and all it is, is an encrypted proxy server.Jul 28 20:03
DaemonFC[m]So it doesn't really make your browsing much more secure than HTTPS in EASE mode in some other browser.Jul 28 20:04
DaemonFC[m]Your ISP or other people on the wifi might not be able to figure out what site you're browsing, but as long as the connection is strongly encrypted, they shouldn't be able to figure out what's being passed back and forth in any browser. Jul 28 20:04
DaemonFC[m]HTTPS Everywhere in EASE mode adds a lot of security and doesn't really have any negative side effects. Jul 28 20:05
DaemonFC[m]98% of sites are available over HTTPS now anyway and you can add exemptions for ones where you're not going to be doing anything that requires secrecy.Jul 28 20:06
DaemonFC[m]It stops attackers from silently downgrading the security to a lower version of TLS or dropping to plain HTTP quietly. Jul 28 20:06
DaemonFC[m]The usage agreement for Opera's "VPN" is pretty troubling. Like Windows 10's EULA.Jul 28 20:07
DaemonFC[m]If something admits it's spying on you in the agreement, you should probably believe it.Jul 28 20:07
dabblerdudeDameonFC[m]: I'm running HTTPS Always since I can't find "HTTPS Everywhere" in Pale Moon. How do you enable EASE mode on that?Jul 28 20:08
DaemonFC[m]Just toggle Encrypt All Sites Eligible.Jul 28 20:09
DaemonFC[m]If something comes along that doesn't work right, you can just disable it for that one site if you need to.Jul 28 20:09
DaemonFC[m]With schestowitz's sites, it warns that there are certificate errors though if it attempts to force a secure connection.Jul 28 20:09
DaemonFC[m]I really don't understand that. Let's Encrypt is free. You just have to renew it 90 days at a time. Jul 28 20:10
dabblerdudeI clicked the addon and the closest I can get to is "Block all unencrypted requests."Jul 28 20:10
DaemonFC[m]It must be a legacy extension.Jul 28 20:10
dabblerdudeYeah, it is.Jul 28 20:10
dabblerdudeI looked around in Pale Moon's add-ons section and can't find "HTTPS Everywhere" anywhere. So will clicking "Block all unencrypted requests" be the best choice, though?Jul 28 20:11
dabblerdudeThat option is only pertaining to "HTTPS Always."Jul 28 20:14
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DaemonFC[m]I have no idea what Pale Moon does.Jul 28 20:15
dabblerdudeYou never used it before?Jul 28 20:15
dabblerdudeIt's really good.Jul 28 20:16
superkuhThere is #palemoon for these sort of things.Jul 28 20:18
dabblerdudeI didn't know there was a channel for that.Jul 28 20:18
superkuhI'm a user but I think http has it's place.Jul 28 20:18
dabblerdudeFor that browser, I mean.Jul 28 20:18
superkuhSo not a user of http/everywhere/always/etc.Jul 28 20:18
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superkuhRight now in order to have an https that browsers won't freak out about you have to leash yourself to *some* corporate entity.Jul 28 20:19
dabblerdudeOh no. That's where that's at right now?Jul 28 20:20
dabblerdude*it's atJul 28 20:20
superkuhYes. Even if it's a currently benevolent one like LetsEncrypt.Jul 28 20:20
dabblerdudeOf course. It's the war against the corporations.Jul 28 20:27
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DaemonFC[m]rutracker is using Let's Encrypt.Jul 28 20:36
DaemonFC[m]Thought that was funny.Jul 28 20:36
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schestowitzhttps://www.ubuntupit.com/best-chess-games-for-android-device/Jul 28 20:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ubuntupit.com | The 20 Best Chess Games For Android Device in 2020Jul 28 20:55
schestowitz[18:10] <XRevan86> I can't help but notice that "master" is kept in tact.Jul 28 20:58
schestowitzheresyJul 28 20:58
schestowitz[18:35] <MinceR> https://files.catbox.moe/0b46rs.pngJul 28 20:58
schestowitzOh, great. microsoft bombing people while pretending words hurt.Jul 28 20:58
schestowitz[19:36] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- Microsoft cuts off Windows 10 support early for some PCs | ZDNetJul 28 20:58
schestowitzeeeewww. it's ad boughtJul 28 20:58
schestowitzor had botJul 28 20:59
schestowitzcan't imagine this won't be Microsoft spin, for them...Jul 28 20:59
schestowitzhttps://linuxhint.com/best_photo_editing_apps_android/Jul 28 21:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhint.com | Best Photo Editing Apps for Android (2020) – Linux HintJul 28 21:00
XRevan86Perceived unsanitary vocabulary hurts much more than incarceration, unsanitary conditions, bullets or drone strikes.Jul 28 21:00
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DaemonFC[m]That's nice. Social Security's website uses Google Analytics now.Jul 28 21:19
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.businessinsider.com/money-tips-tricks-for-millennials-during-the-pandemic-2020-6Jul 28 21:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | 3 money tips, tricks for high-earning millennials during the pandemic - Business InsiderJul 28 21:27
DaemonFC[m]1. Stop living like Maricel.Jul 28 21:27
DaemonFC[m]2. Stop living like Maricel.Jul 28 21:27
DaemonFC[m]3. STOP LIVING LIKE MARICEL.Jul 28 21:27
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DaemonFC[m]It's pretty bad when you're just a cog in the machine at a cancer hospital and someone leaves a 2,000 word Yelp review and half of it is how you in particular are an incompetent dumbass who shouldn't be a nurse and doesn't listen to what their patient says.Jul 28 21:28
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DaemonFC[m]Not even a cheap cancer hospital. To really rake in the bucks, they refuse to see people who are on Medicare or Medicaid at all.Jul 28 21:29
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DaemonFC[m]They soak rich people with stupid bullshit that actually doesn't do anything to cancer. Including full time "naturopaths" and accupuncturists. Jul 28 21:29
DaemonFC[m]They get the woo woo people while their cancer gets worse and then they get fed up and go to a real doctor.Jul 28 21:30
DaemonFC[m]There's actual chemo and everything there, but like 90% of it is bullshit designed to soak rich people with woo.Jul 28 21:31
DaemonFC[m]There's a lot of ways to be in a positive state of mind that doesn't involve throwing thousand dollar bills at quacks.Jul 28 21:32
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: This is the sort of shit that went on with Steve Jobs. He went with New Age horseshit while the Board of Apple was pleading with him to get chemo.Jul 28 21:33
DaemonFC[m]Then when he did, it was too late.Jul 28 21:33
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DaemonFC[m]Rich people can afford to get high on themselves, so they fall for this more often than people who actually do count their medical spending and have to ration themselves to what works.Jul 28 21:34
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DaemonFC[m]I can't afford to go to a witch doctor.Jul 28 21:38
DaemonFC[m]I have to shop around for price and people who take my insurance and stuff.Jul 28 21:38
schestowitzcovid19 numbers in US to top 1200 againJul 28 21:39
schestowitzdeathsJul 28 21:39
DaemonFC[m]Predictable.Jul 28 21:39
DaemonFC[m]Texas started adding in suspected deaths and it went from 5,000 to 5,800 even before they reported today's.Jul 28 21:40
DaemonFC[m]So there's probably about 1,000 in Florida that nobody has reported.Jul 28 21:40
schestowitzcause of death: really nasty coughJul 28 21:41
DaemonFC[m]The last thing he said was, "But that church service was totally worth it!".Jul 28 21:42
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the people in this hotel are taking no precautions at all.Jul 28 21:42
DaemonFC[m]They look at me weird when I go out in my mask and gloves to do the laundry.Jul 28 21:42
DaemonFC[m]Even if you do live, who wants to go through THAT for a month?Jul 28 21:43
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schestowitzhttps://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1197178-microsoft-engineer-proposes-trampfd-for-improving-linux-securityJul 28 21:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Engineer Proposes "TRAMPFD" For Improving Linux Security - Phoronix ForumsJul 28 21:53
schestowitz"Is this Microsoft slowing Linux down so it eventually gets as slow as Windows? "Jul 28 21:53
schestowitz"My first thought: sounds really slow! If the kernel at least mapped it execute only (if available, otherwise execute/read) then it would be (potentially) orders of magnitude faster. As long as it's not writable, there wouldn't be as big of a security hole."Jul 28 21:53
schestowitz"Don't know about you but I break out in a cold sweat every time I see security and Microsoft in the same sentence... 😅"Jul 28 21:54
schestowitz"Intelligent Trampoline All Testcases Repaired and Protected (I.T.A.T.R.A.P.) ... but marketing changed the name"Jul 28 21:54
schestowitzNSAJul 28 21:54
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSAJul 28 21:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - TechrightsJul 28 21:54
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psydreadeven if they co-opt and/or ruin GNU/Linux, that will never cause Windows to regain marketshareJul 28 22:01
psydreadso I don't know what the point of their actions isJul 28 22:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I just turn off all that Fake Security garbage.Jul 28 22:01
DaemonFC[m]It's designed to slow down your computer so you give up and chuck it. Jul 28 22:01
DaemonFC[m]AppArmor doesn't seem to have severe performance penalties.Jul 28 22:02
DaemonFC[m]"The economic repercussions have forced them to take a step back, Gideon Drucker, a certified financial planner at Drucker Wealth and author of the book "How to Avoid H.E.N.R.Y. Syndrome," told Business Insider. Drucker works with Henrys, short for "high earner, not rich yet," who are typically millennials in their early 30s earning over $100,000 but still feeling "broke" because they spend above their means."Jul 28 22:03
DaemonFC[m]If you make $100,000 a year and can't manage to save anything, something is very wrong. A lot of things are very wrong.Jul 28 22:03
DaemonFC[m]https://www.businessinsider.com/henrys-millennials-pandemic-reopening-financial-challenges-2020-6Jul 28 22:04
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DaemonFC[m]I have a name for Maricel, but it's not HENRY.Jul 28 22:05
DaemonFC[m]High Earner. Stupid Bitch. Fake rich.Jul 28 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Mark should ditch.Jul 28 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Leave the kitch.Jul 28 22:06
DaemonFC[m]*kitschJul 28 22:06
psydreadI think something goes wrong if you grow up poor and suddenly earn a lot of money while still having that poor person mentalityJul 28 22:07
DaemonFC[m]You don't need to earn a ton of money to not be poor.Jul 28 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Don't pay attention to advertising.Jul 28 22:07
DaemonFC[m]It's selling you a lifestyle. One you probably can't afford.Jul 28 22:08
DaemonFC[m]Make stuff last. Jul 28 22:08
DaemonFC[m]Find free hobbies.Jul 28 22:08
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: some people think wealth is perception of what people thinkJul 28 22:08
DaemonFC[m]My dad grew up poor because his dad made good money and drank it all.Jul 28 22:08
schestowitzthat's why they buy expensive wardrobes and 'phones'Jul 28 22:08
DaemonFC[m]About all he could afford to do was read books from the library.Jul 28 22:08
schestowitz(guys: cars)Jul 28 22:08
DaemonFC[m]Truck water.Jul 28 22:09
schestowitzYou can't be 'seen' at KFCJul 28 22:09
schestowitz"reasonably priced" breakfast... at $35Jul 28 22:09
schestowitzand mandy will try to catch upJul 28 22:09
schestowitzsocial climberJul 28 22:09
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The average household goes through 1 gallon of water per day per person for cooking and drinking.Jul 28 22:10
DaemonFC[m]If she's buying 5 gallon drums to hook up to a dispensing machine, and each drum is $7 if you take your empties back and replace them yourself at the store. Do we want to know what it costs to get it delivered to your home, which is two blocks from a store where you could do that? Considering 4 people and a dog that bites everyone including the obedience instructor you paid $10,000 to?Jul 28 22:11
DaemonFC[m]If you were doing that yourself it would cost about $210 a month for drinking water, on top of being on the city utility.Jul 28 22:11
DaemonFC[m]Then in exchange for that, they run your water through a filtration system that you don't know is being maintained properly and might be exposing you to all sorts of bacteria in higher levels than tap water.Jul 28 22:12
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So there goes $2,500 a year for water from the store, but since they deliver it, probably $3,000 I guess..Jul 28 22:13
schestowitzis the water so bad around there?Jul 28 22:13
schestowitztap water I mean..Jul 28 22:13
DaemonFC[m]If they do earn $150,000 a year and they're spending $3,000 on water delivery, that's a big problem right there.Jul 28 22:14
schestowitzcovid death eclipses 935 nowJul 28 22:14
DaemonFC[m]She's too good for it. One wonders what they drank in Tondo.Jul 28 22:14
schestowitzhttps://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83Jul 28 22:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-txdshs.maps.arcgis.com | ArcGIS DashboardsJul 28 22:14
schestowitz"NOTE: Texas: "July 27: DSHS is now reporting COVID-19 fatality data based on death certificates. A fatality is counted as a COVID-19 fatality when the medical certifier attests on the death certificate that COVID-19 is a cause of death. Death certificate data has identified 5,713 fatalities among Texas residents, including 44 newly reported Monday. That compares with 5,038 deaths reported Sunday under the previous method.""Jul 28 22:14
schestowitzso make that 1700 dead Jul 28 22:15
schestowitzRed States might not report properlyJul 28 22:15
schestowitzinc. FL as you notedJul 28 22:15
schestowitzif they're on verge of bankruptcy, then they lie about payroll like many other thingsJul 28 22:16
schestowitzposers gonna poseJul 28 22:16
schestowitzanyway, let's not do gossipJul 28 22:16
schestowitz[22:08] <DaemonFC[m]> My dad grew up poor because his dad made good money and drank it all.Jul 28 22:16
schestowitzhappens a lot it seemsJul 28 22:16
schestowitzesp. when the person dislikes the jobJul 28 22:16
schestowitzand the wife/familyJul 28 22:17
schestowitzusually the fatherJul 28 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Grandpa Farmer filed bankruptcy 3 times.Jul 28 22:17
DaemonFC[m]It's not exactly uncommon. Just nobody wants to admit they've done it.Jul 28 22:17
DaemonFC[m]If they got rid of bankruptcy, many people would be so afraid of the next disaster that might strike that the banks wouldn't be able to lend.Jul 28 22:18
DaemonFC[m]It's painted as a much more grim solution than it really is.Jul 28 22:19
DaemonFC[m]Which is worse? Not great credit for several years or having to dig to find $100,000 to pay bills when you're broke?Jul 28 22:20
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DaemonFC[m]GM was part of that job for life culture at one point.Jul 28 22:21
DaemonFC[m]He fucked up so bad they'd have fired him on the spot I don't know how many times. The union protected his job.Jul 28 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Other employees would clock him in while he was at the bar, drunk.Jul 28 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Then they'd go fish him out of the bar.Jul 28 22:22
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DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "is the water so bad around there"> No it's not. Pass it through a Brita filter and it's fine.Jul 28 22:23
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm just repulsed by these articles that they print during recessions.Jul 28 22:24
DaemonFC[m]It's not "Christ! 30% unemployment!? What will be done!?".... It's "Do you make $100,000 a year and feel poor? You're not alone!"Jul 28 22:25
DaemonFC[m]This can't be a mistake. About 20 years ago, the Wall Street Journal called people too poor to pay federal income tax "lucky duckies". Spawning a series of comics starring "Lucky Ducky" as a lazy minimum wage worker always looking to screw over the poor Capitalists who were employing him as satire.Jul 28 22:27
schestowitzyou read corporate mesiaJul 28 22:27
schestowitzmediaJul 28 22:27
schestowitzthey try to stitch the mess togetherJul 28 22:28
schestowitzbefore people pinch the pitchfork and go riotJul 28 22:28
schestowitzyou need to change your rss feedsJul 28 22:28
schestowitzI can send you recommendationsJul 28 22:28
schestowitzTX death toll now shown yetJul 28 22:29
schestowitzbecause of the correctionsJul 28 22:29
DaemonFC[m]It's not that I believe the articles. It's that I find it like something out of bizarre-o world that you could make $100,000 a year and be struggling when the median wage in nearly all states is about $40,000-$50,000. Jul 28 22:29
schestowitztotal for today can be 2000Jul 28 22:29
schestowitzinc. the correctionJul 28 22:29
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yes, it's pretend journalismJul 28 22:29
schestowitzlike criticised wsj pieceJul 28 22:30
schestowitzmurdoch/wall streetJul 28 22:30
MinceR28 230136 < psydread> so I don't know what the point of their actions is Jul 28 22:30
MinceRgenerally they settle for wrecking thingsJul 28 22:30
schestowitzwhere they have you believe a typical American family makes like half a millionJul 28 22:30
schestowitzThat's just public relations at a national levelJul 28 22:30
schestowitzimagine having to do business with countries where footage from chicago and portland is what they have in mindJul 28 22:31
schestowitzyou want them thinking suits and manhattanJul 28 22:31
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, what you have is empty lots that are leftover from race riots in 1968, and Trump sending federal goon squad Waffen-SS people to kidnap Americans.Jul 28 22:32
schestowitzUS turned from District of Columbia to COLOMBIAJul 28 22:33
schestowitzand the world is watchingJul 28 22:33
schestowitzthis is sort of funny for an outsider to observe, given how fast the US tarnished its intl imageJul 28 22:34
DaemonFC[m]What's actually going on in America right now is that there are so many right-wing domestic terrorists who support Donald Trump who like to play dress up army men that you have no idea if you're being chased down the street by them or the police. Does it even matter anymoore?Jul 28 22:34
schestowitzIn Europe people raise a brow nowJul 28 22:34
schestowitzexcept the nazis, they worship trump for what he does in (to) to the USJul 28 22:34
schestowitz[12:11] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): ● NEWS ● #Counterpunch ☞ #Boogaloo Movement: USA #FarRight is Growing Thanks to Donald #Trump https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/27/boogaloo-movement-usa-far-right-is-growing-thanks-to-donald-trump/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/6a0a9c93-bf5c-4533-9f27-ce429d0e061d]Jul 28 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Boogaloo Movement: USA Far Right is Growing Thanks to Donald Trump - CounterPunch.orgJul 28 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 28 22:35
schestowitzfrom yesterdayJul 28 22:35
schestowitz[12:59] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): "these anonymous thugs in camouflage, virtually indistinguishable from right-wing militias, have seized the authority to kidnap protesters." https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/07/27/three-questions-for-the-resistance/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/e568a04c-c03e-418e-babc-6b993edb4358]Jul 28 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Three Questions for the “Resistance” - CounterPunch.orgJul 28 22:35
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schestowitzthat's what I am referring toJul 28 22:35
schestowitzand this is a better site than "BUSINE$$$$$" InsiderJul 28 22:35
schestowitza lot more realistic and closer to reality of ordinary citizensJul 28 22:36
DaemonFC[m]Facebook says it's banning "Boogaloo" accounts. There was one that popped up in Indiana to protest face masks, and of course they had Trump hats and Trump signs and AR-15 assault rifles. Facebook took it down when I reported it, but they had already had one "protest" before Facebook bothered to respond.Jul 28 22:37
DaemonFC[m]The first PPP was very corrupt. Trump refused to appoint an inspector general, which the law required before any money could be spent, and then he illegally spent the money anyway. Instead of going to small business, it went to Trump businesses, his criminal friends, zombie corporations, big banks, companies that are so large they're on the S&P 500.... But the program was so rife with fraud because Trump wanted toJul 28 22:40
DaemonFC[m]hide his own embezzlement and corruption, that a guy walked into a bank and made up business names, got a $4 million PPP loan, and had spent $500,000 of it and was pulled over in his new Lamborghini. Jul 28 22:40
DaemonFC[m]So there's no reason to think that if Congress passes another one that anything will protect that from being sacked by criminals, Trump insiders, and guys like Mr. Lambo. Jul 28 22:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I kept all of the bills that they sent me over 8 months.Jul 28 22:49
DaemonFC[m]I actually weighed them. There's over 20 pounds of bills, not counting the envelope and the return envelope. Jul 28 22:50
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to burn all of them as soon as the final order for relief is entered.Jul 28 22:50
DaemonFC[m]That's the only reason that I still have them.Jul 28 22:51
DaemonFC[m]The emails stopped too. They were sending me emails. Some of them 4-5 times a day. Signing off with "-Your personal account manager"Jul 28 22:52
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DaemonFC[m]I was like, "I feel special. I have a personal account manager who won't tell me their name."..Jul 28 22:52
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schestowitzOh, I see nowJul 28 23:13
schestowitzthey added the total death toll to the all-time totalJul 28 23:13
schestowitznot daily tallyJul 28 23:13
schestowitzso now it's at 152k+Jul 28 23:13
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sebsebsebMinceR: AppleJul 28 23:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: PINGJul 28 23:19
schestowitz0/Jul 28 23:19
schestowitzsmell my armpitsJul 28 23:19
sebsebsebschestowitz: OH WOW just seen this https://labourheartlands.com/atos-boss-to-be-eu-commissioner/?fbclid=IwAR2TMkKEXJ6V_3k6Y4WO_WluTKkWRn5ReMkUUaNh2l4HSMOliF4QjAwldwoJul 28 23:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-labourheartlands.com | Atos Boss to be EU Commissioner - Labour HeartlandsJul 28 23:20
schestowitzyes, we did a series about itJul 28 23:20
schestowitzmany partsJul 28 23:20
sebsebsebschestowitz: ATOS anyone doing anything polotics generally isn't good :)Jul 28 23:20
schestowitztechrights.org/2019/12/25/why-breton-matters/Jul 28 23:20
schestowitzindex on top, hereJul 28 23:20
sebsebsebohJul 28 23:20
schestowitzAbout 25 parts, it's very detailedJul 28 23:20
schestowitzhe's already doing exactly what we foresawJul 28 23:20
schestowitzcorrupting the EU through the ECJul 28 23:21
sebsebsebschestowitz: ATOS peple are awful thse benefit assessementsJul 28 23:22
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DaemonFC[m]I was wondering why credit card rewards aren't taxed. The IRS says that if you get them as payouts then they are income, but no 1099-MISC is generated until you cash out over $600 from someone over the course of a year.Jul 28 23:28
DaemonFC[m]If you apply them as account credits, they are considered rebates, and not taxable. Jul 28 23:28
DaemonFC[m]Mostly upper middle class and rich people get a significant amount of these. So it's just more income they don't have to pay taxes on.Jul 28 23:29
DaemonFC[m]It's really kind of a marketing gimmick anyway. The cards that have a particular store as a permanent bonus category. That store is willing to pay a little bit into the scheme to secure your business at that store, but the bank also has motivation to throw some points in. It's a cheap way to encourage you to spend more. The more you spend, the more likely you are to pay interest. Then the points don't matter.Jul 28 23:31
DaemonFC[m]Walmart does a neat thing.Jul 28 23:32
DaemonFC[m]They have two credit cards. One is for people with bad credit. No rewards. Lots of interest. Jul 28 23:32
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DaemonFC[m]One is for people with better credit. Good rewards. Lower interest.Jul 28 23:32
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DaemonFC[m]People with better credit probably are less attached to shopping at Walmart, so you basically take money from people who can't shop elsewhere and use it to buy loyalty from people who could.Jul 28 23:33
schestowitzsebsebseb: this is covered in death in this series, read up on itJul 28 23:34
schestowitz*in depthJul 28 23:34
schestowitztypo rather than Freudian slipJul 28 23:37
schestowitzthough many did die because of Atos in the UKJul 28 23:38
DaemonFC[m]Business Insider says we may have reached a peak.Jul 28 23:43
DaemonFC[m]I say, "You say 65,000 cases a day like it was a good thing.".Jul 28 23:43
DaemonFC[m]It's like a roach problem. You see one and there's 10 more somewhere.Jul 28 23:44
schestowitzwasn't April the peak?Jul 28 23:44
schestowitzthey said peak back thenJul 28 23:44
DaemonFC[m]So take whatever they're saying, times 10, and that's according to CDC.Jul 28 23:44
schestowitzand cnn asked famous criminal gates, "are we at the peak?"Jul 28 23:44
sebsebsebschestowitz: I have been messd arond by them a few times Jul 28 23:44
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Things got peekier. Jul 28 23:44
DaemonFC[m]*peakier evenJul 28 23:44
schestowitzBecause this famous criminal is a pandemic guru, apparentlyJul 28 23:44
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: BI is waste of timeJul 28 23:45
schestowitzpaywalls alsoJul 28 23:45
DaemonFC[m]Trump has brain drained the federal government so bad that they don't know know their asses from next Thursday.Jul 28 23:45
DaemonFC[m]That Bankrupt-in-Chief.Jul 28 23:45
DaemonFC[m]If there were actual printing presses at the Fed, they'd have exploded by now, they'd be running so hard trying to make it look like anyone wanted corporate bonds, US government debt, and corporate stock, in roughly that order.Jul 28 23:47
DaemonFC[m]The Federal Reserve is highly politicized, but it's also owned by the banks, so they're using this as a free-for-all to make it look like the stock market hasn't failed, in order to try to make Trump look better for the election -and- the banks are snapping up the real economy and using inflated money that they stole from people like my mom to do it with.Jul 28 23:48
schestowitz# of cases in US is like 10 times higherJul 28 23:48
schestowitzthink 40 millionJul 28 23:48
schestowitzrate-limiting tests does not mean "have peaked"Jul 28 23:48
schestowitzif 330 million catch this and hospital cannot cope with the inpatient flow, there can be over a million deaths easilyJul 28 23:49
schestowitzin one seasonJul 28 23:49
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DaemonFC[m]If they wanted to contain the virus, they would. Trump and the Republican Party are letting the disaster go unmitigated as cover for the looting.Jul 28 23:50
DaemonFC[m]If they wanted the real economy to do better, instead of spewing trillions of dollars at the rich, they'd put people like mom on Universal Basic Income and just let them spend it with businesses that hire actual people and actually do something.Jul 28 23:50
DaemonFC[m]Instead, they have her on an IV drip of Trump Kool Aid screaming about free shit for poor people, while the rich people have gotten, ohhh.....about $11 trillion of free shit over the last 90 days.Jul 28 23:52
DaemonFC[m]Leaving poor people to get sick and be permanently damaged or die, followed by million dollar medical bills from their local hospital.Jul 28 23:52
DaemonFC[m]I wish I could be making that up. It's $15,000 to be in an ER for 3 hours. Guess what happens if they admit you into the hospital. First of all, if you have no insurance they'll patch you up to the minimum extent possible and try everything to avoid having to admit you.Jul 28 23:54
DaemonFC[m]As recently as 1985, they didn't even have to do that.Jul 28 23:54
DaemonFC[m]Will there be a bill? Oh you'd better believe it. A guy I worked with in 2006 had an emergency appendectomy at a rural Indiana hospital. With insurance, the bill was $86,000. He had to file bankruptcy.Jul 28 23:55
DaemonFC[m]The reason that Medicare hasn't collapsed yet is because they don't pay those prices. The government bills them as if you went to an urgent care clinic if that's the severity of the injury you presented with.Jul 28 23:56
DaemonFC[m]So a $15,000 hospital bill becomes like $800, and then Medicare passes $160 on to you.Jul 28 23:56
DaemonFC[m]So the people old enough to be watching Fox News don't care if younger people suffer and die and get sued.Jul 28 23:57
DaemonFC[m]They figure they have theirs so to hell with everyone else. That's why they turn into a Republican in old age. It's not that they got old and wise. It's that shitty young people turn into shitty old people.Jul 28 23:57
DaemonFC[m]Someone was shoving discount ice cream cones right into the hands of Whitey Bulger. Jul 28 23:57
DaemonFC[m]Charges:Racketeering: (RICO), Murder (19 counts), Conspiracy to commit murder, Extortion, Jul 28 23:59
DaemonFC[m]Conspiracy to commit extortion, Narcotics distribution, Conspiracy to Jul 28 23:59
DaemonFC[m]commit money laundering.Jul 28 23:59
DaemonFC[m]They caught him living the life of a quiet old man in the suburbs. Jul 28 23:59

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