●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 28, 2021 ●● ● Aug 28 [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:00] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [00:17] DaemonFC Sirhan, who is from Jordan, had reportedly said he did not remember killing RFK, but said he felt betrayed by the senators support for Israel in the 1967 Arab-Israel War. [00:17] DaemonFC LOL [00:17] DaemonFC I think they meant the Six Day War. [00:18] DaemonFC All the Muslim countries got together and decided to invade Israel by surprise and they were driven out and lost some of their own territory, in six days. [00:52] DaemonFC schestowitz, I think Comcast is in big trouble soon. [00:53] DaemonFC They have all these lines and things to maintain and people aren't thrilled that every time something happens, Comcast wants to add money to their bill for service calls, and device rental fees and bills that double or triple unless you call them every year. [00:53] DaemonFC I think there's either going to be reform or a going out of business sale. ● Aug 28 [01:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.16 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 81.90 swarm size (avg): 265.94 ● Aug 28 [02:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 18.20 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 73.05 swarm size (avg): 265.91 [02:35] schestowitz [22:41] schestowitz, Your certificate has expired. [02:35] schestowitz no, you try https [02:35] schestowitz which we do not do, except with self-signed cert [02:35] schestowitz and you likely use a monopolist's browser like firefox [02:36] schestowitz which insists we outsource trust [02:36] XRevan86 schestowitz: Um, DaemonFC, so probably MS Edge. [02:36] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270821.txt Read the log now... [02:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [02:36] DaemonFC schestowitz, For IRC. [02:36] schestowitz DaemonFC: IRC certifcate? [02:37] DaemonFC * Certification info: [02:37] DaemonFC * Subject: [02:37] DaemonFC * CN=irc.techrights.org [02:37] DaemonFC * Issuer: [02:37] DaemonFC * C=US [02:37] DaemonFC * O=Let's Encrypt [02:37] DaemonFC * CN=R3 [02:37] DaemonFC * Public key algorithm: rsaEncryption (2048 bits) [02:37] DaemonFC * Sign algorithm sha256WithRSAEncryption [02:37] DaemonFC * Valid since May 29 21:13:05 2021 GM to Aug 27 21:13:05 2021 GM [02:37] DaemonFC * * Cipher info: [02:37] DaemonFC * Version: TLSv1/SSLv3, cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits) [02:37] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270821.txt Read the log now... [02:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [02:37] DaemonFC * * Verify E: certificate has expired.? (10) -- Ignored [02:37] schestowitz oih [02:37] DaemonFC Looks like 90 day renewal came up and nobody renewed it. [02:38] XRevan86 It's probably integrated ACME into ergo, but then it should not expire. [02:38] schestowitz Ariadne: at which end is that reviews? [02:38] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-270821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-270821.txt Read the log now... [02:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [02:39] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-270821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-270821.txt Read the log now... [02:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [02:40] XRevan86 It doesn't have ACME integration, I just checked. It just looks like the kind of software that would do that. [02:41] XRevan86 So I guess there's certbot in the same container, and misconfigured cron then. [02:42] techrights-news *** *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-27.txt [02:43] XRevan86 And I guess that means that this server is now three months old :). [02:44] XRevan86 And so is the death of freenode. How time flies. [02:44] schestowitz yes, certbot is installed [02:45] XRevan86 schestowitz: Try "certbot renew" [02:45] XRevan86 If that succeeds, then it's the cron. [02:46] XRevan86 (and will mitigate the issue right here and now) [02:46] schestowitz Congratulations, all renewals succeeded: [02:46] schestowitz /etc/letsencrypt/live/irc.techrights.org/fullchain.pem (success) [02:46] schestowitz DaemonFC: do me a favour and retry [02:47] XRevan86 schestowitz: So it's cron :) [02:47] schestowitz there is no cron [02:47] MinceR there is only Zuul! [02:47] *techrights_guest|76 (~519aac55@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights [02:47] techrights_guest|76 roy test [02:48] schestowitz DaemonFC: cab you try whatever client you use? [02:48] XRevan86 schestowitz: Uh, there must be something [02:48] schestowitz-TR alpine does cron... differently [02:50] XRevan86 The certbot package in Alpine has no additional files that would indicate any cronness [02:51] techrights-news #ibm CEO "Arvind mentions how the skilling will be delivered in his report... This is not really something meant for current IBMers to reskill." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cx2Qz3c#replies [02:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Google, IBM, tech executives unveil cybersecurity commitments at White House Summit - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://salsa.debian.org/letsencrypt-team/certbot/certbot/-/blob/master/debian/certbot.cron.d an idea of what a good cron job looks like [02:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-salsa.debian.org | debian/certbot.cron.d master Debian Lets Encrypt Team / certbot / certbot GitLab [02:52] techrights-news " #IBM was a Big Family before, taking care , now employee have damocles sword over their head all the time, they dont know who will be next." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/184dZszC#replies [02:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM Layoffs 2021 - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:52] MinceR skilling, eh? [02:53] techrights-news "Hopefully Slack got whacked... What a horrible tool" Does #ibm still force #redhat staff to use this #proprietarySoftware / #malware ?https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cw9IZ5q#replies [02:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Anyone get whacked today? - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:54] techrights-news "People are leaving in droves, in my group management is now trying to hire at least 5 new people. Yet #IBM is continuing laying people right and left!!!" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cnc8bWp#replies [02:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Attrition is intensifying - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:55] techrights-news "It's too late for #ibm , only strategy left is to buy small companies because they dont have R&D $$. Dividend strategy and cash speaks for that. Do you think ibm can waste 5 yrs (or even 3) creating something in lab while taking a chance it maynot work?" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cxVSAsz#replies [02:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Quit financial engineering and go back to your roots, IBM - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:55] XRevan86 schestowitz: So /etc/periodic/ ? [02:56] techrights-news "I would wager a guess that 90% of #IBM stock holders hold it for that dividend and don't expect much from the market cap - though it'd sure be great to have both." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cxTLZDt#replies [02:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | AMD's market cap just overtook IBM's! - post regarding IBM layoffs [02:57] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye can pretty much slap the aforementioned cron job into /etc/periodic/daily/certbot [02:57] schestowitz let's try [02:58] XRevan86 Except with a shebang [02:58] schestowitz XRevan86: this is systemd [02:58] schestowitz 0 */12 * * * root test -x /usr/bin/certbot -a \! -d /run/systemd/system && perl -e 'sleep int(rand(43200))' && certbot -q renew [02:59] schestowitz alpine does not have systemd [02:59] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye can remove the additional check for systemd, it's useless, yea. [02:59] XRevan86 It's there to avoid this running in parallel to the systemd timer. [02:59] schestowitz is that really a daily job? ● Aug 28 [03:00] schestowitz it says twice a day [03:01] XRevan86 schestowitz: The original one is twice a day, but for that ye need to read on how to do this in Alpine :). [03:01] schestowitz I think Ariadne, being the sec chief for alpine, hae more 'standard' certbot jobs/templates for her alpine systems [03:02] XRevan86 Daily should be good enough, the certificates renew days before they actually expire, there's enough room. [03:02] schestowitz this is probably not urgent for now, assuming DaemonFC no longer gets warnings [03:02] XRevan86 schestowitz: Well, Ariadne has 3 months to add one :) [03:04] techrights-news I wasnt prepared for how much #System76 has changed! - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=uHY_QRVJOhA #video #invidious [03:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | I wasn't prepared for how much System76 has changed! - Invidious [03:05] XRevan86 So yea, no urgency, and there has to be an existing template she goes for. [03:06] techrights-news Exploring #VoidLinux - A Different Kind Of Distro - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=49jhT9SaOcQ #video #gnu #linux [03:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Exploring Void Linux - A Different Kind Of Distro - Invidious [03:07] techrights-news Intro to Kernel and Userspace Tracing Using BCC, Part 1 of 3 https://blogs.oracle.com/linux/post/intro-to-bcc-1 [03:07] XRevan86 schestowitz: Anyway, the time is so short (12 hours) to make the room for failure as small as possible even if the job fails several times for reasons like the network being down, the certificates have little chance of getting expired. [03:08] schestowitz yeah, I cannot recall my irc client throwing such errors at me for any network [03:08] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:09] XRevan86 And the perl sleep thing is to avoid DDoS at round hours. [03:10] XRevan86 12 o'clock? It's time for billions of servers to request certificate renewal at the same time! [03:10] techrights-ipfs-bot Gemini requests since start of month: 194424 total Total pages: 37197 Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 19 days ago [03:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.6 GB TotalOut: 424 MB [03:10] techrights-ipfs-bot New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID [03:10] DaemonFC I told it to ignore certificate errors to get it to connect. [03:10] schestowitz is it ok now? [03:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 19.65 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 70.53 swarm size (avg): 265.89 [03:11] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [03:11] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [03:11] *Ariadne has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:12] XRevan86 If it's not then ergo needs a reload and certbot has hooks for that, but I don't know, it depends on the software, some stuff can just notice that the certificate files changed. [03:13] techrights-ipfs-bot QmUXymcWet2q8wd2Hy25EsDQJiht7qrueqsECpz6D9G3Di [03:15] XRevan86 https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#using-valid-tls-certificates mm, like that [03:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ergo/MANUAL.md at master ergochat/ergo GitHub [03:16] techrights-news #LibreELEC 10 delivers Kodi 19.1 and Raspberry Pi 4 enhancements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154975#comment-30754 [03:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreELEC 10 Matrix Released with Better Raspberry Pi 4 Support | Tux Machines [03:17] techrights-news #manpages-5.13 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154999 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | man-pages-5.13 released | Tux Machines [03:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: It doesn't work, there's no hook either, and it looks like ergo doesn't have any tricks to do this the easy way, so the hook is a must. [03:20] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's kind of strange since ergo can't read certificates directly from the certbot's location, so Ariadne must have copied them to a readable location, but then no hook? [03:20] XRevan86 Maybe it just doesn't work for whatever reason and there wasn't a chance to test it in practice. [03:20] techrights-news #Wine [6.16] Announcement http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155000 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine [6.16] Announcement | Tux Machines [03:21] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: that's why I ask DaemonFC [03:21] schestowitz-TR I cannot see errors at my end [03:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: I checked, there's an error. [03:22] XRevan86 schestowitz: Unencrypted connection? Disabled certificate verification? [03:22] schestowitz 17 apk add certbot [03:22] schestowitz 21 certbot certonly irc.techrights.org [03:22] schestowitz 22 certbot certonly -d irc.techrights.org [03:22] schestowitz 37 chmod a+x /etc/letsencrypt/keys/0000_key-certbot.pem [03:23] XRevan86 Why would .pem need execution rights? %) [03:23] schestowitz How would you like to authenticate with the ACME CA? [03:23] schestowitz - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - [03:23] schestowitz 1: Spin up a temporary webserver (standalone) [03:24] schestowitz 2: Place files in webroot directory (webroot) [03:24] XRevan86 schestowitz: Don't rerun those. [03:25] XRevan86 schestowitz: If ye want to solve this now, ye need to find the location from where ergo is reading the certificates. [03:26] XRevan86 It's probably not /etc/letsencrypt/ albeit the chown is puzzling. [03:26] XRevan86 * the chmod [03:27] schestowitz /etc/letsencrypt/archive/irc.techrights.org [03:27] schestowitz / [03:27] schestowitz I can see the old certs and new ones [03:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: Right, that's the archive as the name suggests :) [03:28] schestowitz cert1.pem chain1.pem fullchain1.pem privkey1.pem [03:28] schestowitz cert2.pem chain2.pem fullchain2.pem privkey2.pem [03:28] schestowitz 2 are the new ones [03:28] XRevan86 schestowitz: If ergo is run from an initscript, try rc-service ergo reload [03:29] XRevan86 Maybe that's the only thing needed, one can hope :) [03:29] XRevan86 If ergo reads from /etc/letsencrypt/ directly (chown 777 ?), then that'll do. [03:30] XRevan86 A sleepless night means I can't type "chmod" right. [03:31] schestowitz-TR it does not recognise reload [03:31] schestowitz-TR I also don't want to kill ircd altogether :-) [03:32] XRevan86 schestowitz: Nothing is easy :D [03:32] schestowitz-TR esp. not with certs [03:33] schestowitz-TR whose main accomplishment, in this case is, ask Linux Foundation is it's OK to connect to us [03:33] XRevan86 schestowitz: The reload command is kill -HUP $PID [03:33] schestowitz-TR I don't want to experiment with what might bring down the irc network [03:34] XRevan86 schestowitz: https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/distrib/systemd/ergo.service#L15 [03:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ergo/ergo.service at master ergochat/ergo GitHub [03:34] *rianne has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [03:34] *rianne (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:36] XRevan86 killall -HUP ergo should do the trick too. [03:38] XRevan86 schestowitz: The scary world of UNIX where the process signalling command is called kill :) [03:38] schestowitz-TR but I don't want to stop the irc daemon [03:39] XRevan86 schestowitz: SIGHUP is reload [03:39] schestowitz-TR not even hangup [03:39] schestowitz-TR also, it's ircd, not ergo [03:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's the signal ergo chose for the job. [03:40] XRevan86 Fairly common. [03:40] schestowitz-TR the job of renewing certs ? [03:40] XRevan86 schestowitz: General reloading, config files, certificates, etc. [03:41] *Ariadne (~sid506515@zmgg7ft3mzjri.irc) has joined #techrights [03:42] *rianne has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat) [03:42] XRevan86 schestowitz: Judging by that the issue is gone, ye did it :) [03:42] *rianne (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [03:42] Ariadne i did it [03:42] schestowitz-TR I get no cert errors from xchat [03:43] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: thanks :-) [03:43] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ah :D, thanks. [03:44] XRevan86 Helping fix an unfamiliar issue on an unfamiliar system through text chat is a special kind of fun. I think I succeeded though. [03:46] XRevan86 1. cron job; 2. certbot hook; 3. OpenRC service reload. [03:47] XRevan86 The service has to be self-written. [03:47] techrights-news Maintaining community posturing https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-34/ [03:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-34 Fedora Community Blog [03:48] techrights-news Fanless mini-PC features Tiger Lake and Thunderbolt 4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155001 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [03:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fanless mini-PC features Tiger Lake and Thunderbolt 4 | Tux Machines [03:49] techrights-news Linux Could Use A New Maintainer For Its #CDROM Code - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-New-CD-ROM-Maintainer #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/28/#latest [03:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Could Use A New Maintainer For Its CD-ROM Code - Phoronix [03:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [03:49] techrights-news #Linux 5.14 set to boost future enterprise application security https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/27/linux-5-14-set-to-boost-future-enterprise-application-security/ [03:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux 5.14 set to boost future enterprise application security TechCrunch [03:50] XRevan86 Regarding the hook, since ergo reads directly from /etc/letsencrypt/, it should just run rc-service ergo reload, but I'm just being Captain Obvious at this point. [03:50] techrights-news #suse shilling #sap #ProprietarySoftware some more https://www.suse.com/c/joint-webinar-achieving-the-sap-intelligent-enterprise-cloud-best-practices/ this isn't like the old SUSE: http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/novell-suse-sap/ [03:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Joint Webinar: Achieving the SAP Intelligent Enterprise Cloud Best Practices | SUSE Communities [03:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | SUSE Said It Was Becoming Independent But Instead It Became Like an Asset of SAP (German Microsoft), Which is Hostile Towards Free Software | Techrights [03:51] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: or Captain Hook [03:51] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: I tried [03:51] schestowitz-TR reload operation not desined for this service/daemon [03:51] schestowitz-TR *defined [03:52] XRevan86 schestowitz: That depends on the third thing being that it should be written into /etc/init.d/ergo as doing the SIGHUP [03:52] techrights-news "TweetDeck, the Twitter client, has a troubled history with Linux." #ProprietarySoftware #twitter #socialcontrolmedia #humanFarming #TweetDeck https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/An-alternative-Twitter-interface [03:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linux-magazine.com | An alternative Twitter interface Linux Magazine [03:53] XRevan86 schestowitz: Good pun on Captain Hook :) [03:53] schestowitz-TR :D [03:54] schestowitz-TR OK, video fully uploaded now, will write some text for it [03:54] schestowitz-TR recorded 7 hours ago, but I went to bed [03:58] *job (~job@smcn9tvyk7gf8.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [04:04] techrights-news VelorenRolling New Characters & Multiplayer Mayhem - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RaeuieQJiqc #video #invidious #multimedia | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/28/#latest [04:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | VelorenRolling New Characters & Multiplayer Mayhem - Invidious [04:05] techrights-news #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, August 27, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext [04:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives [04:06] techrights-news #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing [04:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index [04:09] techrights-news The brand "Linux" is being misappropriated for #greenwashing https://cleantechnica.com/2021/08/27/linux-foundation-energys-executive-director-dr-shuli-goodman-on-decarbonization-at-the-electron-level/ see http://techrights.org/2020/09/02/linux-foundation-greenwashing-and-openwashing-for-microsoft/ [04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Foundation Energy's Executive Director, Dr. Shuli Goodman, On Decarbonization At The Electron Level | CleanTechnica [04:09] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Works for Microsoft | Techrights [04:10] techrights-news "This post will give you a detailed guide on cracking WPA/WPA2 wifi passwords using #KaliLinux ." :-o https://bytexd.com/crack-wpa-wpa2-wifi-passwords-using-aircrack-ng-kali-linux/ [04:10] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bytexd.com | Crack WPA/WPA2 WiFi Passwords using Aircrack-ng & Kali Linux [04:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 25.21 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 74.90 swarm size (avg): 265.84 [04:11] XRevan86 Ariadne: https://serverfault.com/a/987697 better than what ergo suggests and than chmod [04:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-serverfault.com | certbot - give systemd service access to certificates in protected folder - Server Fault [04:11] Ariadne i already took care of it [04:12] XRevan86 Ariadne: Ah, okay. [04:15] techrights-news NEWS #NokiaMob #Jolla is profitable and is expanding its software offering to automotive industry https://nokiamob.net/2021/08/27/jolla-is-profitable-and-is-expanding-its-software-offering-to-automotive-industry/ [04:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nokiamob.net | Jolla is profitable and is expanding its software offering to automotive industry | Nokiamob [04:16] techrights-news NEWS #Rlang #Programming Practical Advice for R in Production Answering Your Questions https://www.r-bloggers.com/2021/08/practical-advice-for-r-in-production-answering-your-questions/ [04:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Practical Advice for R in Production Answering Your Questions | R-bloggers [04:16] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #Ericsson launches slew of initiatives to reskill employees https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/ericsson-launches-slew-of-initiatives-to-reskill-employees/85683695 [04:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Ericsson launches slew of initiatives to reskill employees, IT News, ET CIO [04:17] techrights-news NEWS #NPR #Education Reports Of Cheating At Colleges Soar During The #Pandemic https://text.npr.org/1031255390 has become 'the default'... [04:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Reports Of Cheating At Colleges Soar During The Pandemic [04:20] techrights-news NEWS #SecurityWeek #ProprietarySoftware Critical Vulnerability Exposed Azure Cosmos DBs for Months https://www.securityweek.com/critical-vulnerability-exposed-azure-cosmos-dbs-months #azure = layoffs, losses, failure http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Critical Vulnerability Exposed Azure Cosmos DBs for Months | SecurityWeek.Com [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure (or Cloud) Results Are Most Likely an Elaborate Fraud | Techrights [04:20] techrights-news NEWS #VOANews #ProprietarySoftware #Apple CEO Brings Home $750 Million Bonus https://www.voanews.com/usa/apple-ceo-brings-home-750-million-bonus [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | Apple CEO Brings Home $750 Million Bonus | Voice of America - English [04:20] techrights-news NEWS #IndiaTimes #ProprietarySoftware Microsoft warns thousands of cloud customers of exposed databases https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/microsoft-warns-thousands-of-cloud-customers-of-exposed-databases/85677212 #azure = layoffs, losses, failure http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft warns thousands of cloud customers of exposed databases, IT News, ET CIO [04:20] techrights-news NEWS #Bloomberg #ProprietarySoftware Microsoft Cloud Databases Vulnerable for Years, Firm Says https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-27/microsoft-cloud-databases-vulnerable-for-years-researchers-say #azure = layoffs, losses, failure http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ [04:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? [04:21] techrights-news NEWS #TheConversation #Surveillance #Privacy The #Taliban may have access to the #biometric data of civilians who helped the U.S. military https://theconversation.com/the-taliban-may-have-access-to-the-biometric-data-of-civilians-who-helped-the-u-s-military-166475 [04:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theconversation.com | The Taliban may have access to the biometric data of civilians who helped the U.S. military [04:26] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [04:27] *asusbox (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [04:29] techrights-news #Games: IXION, Roots of Pacha, and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155002 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: IXION, Roots of Pacha, and More | Tux Machines [04:33] techrights-news NEWS #TheVerge #Finance The payments mess that almost scared #OnlyFans away from sex work https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/27/22641095/onlyfans-sex-work-ban-online-porn-payment-processing-controversy [04:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | The payments mess that almost scared OnlyFans away from sex work - The Verge [04:34] techrights-news NEWS #NBC #Politics Their work secured the election. It also paved the way for pro-Trump conspiracies. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/trump-conspiracies-strain-election-cybersecurity-experts-rcna1803 [04:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Trump conspiracies strain election cybersecurity experts [04:34] techrights-news NEWS #BanklessTimes #Censorship #TikTok is now removing [cryptocurrency]-related posts, influencers worried https://www.banklesstimes.com/2021/08/27/tiktok-removing-crypto-related-posts/ [04:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.banklesstimes.com/2021/08/27/tiktok-removing-crypto-related-posts/ ) [04:36] techrights-news #Security and #ProprietarySoftware Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155003 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [04:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security and Proprietary Software Leftovers | Tux Machines [04:37] techrights-news NEWS #BroadbandBreakfast #Internet Building Fiber Infrastructure Back Better: The Journey Taken by #Tuttle , #Oklahoma https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2021/08/building-fiber-infrastructure-back-better-the-journey-taken-by-tuttle-oklahoma/ [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-broadbandbreakfast.com | Building Fiber Infrastructure Back Better: The Journey Taken by Tuttle, Oklahoma : Broadband Breakfast [04:37] techrights-news NEWS #InternetSociety #isoc #internet A Vibrant Community Works to Make the Internet Better in #Africa https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2021/08/a-vibrant-community-works-to-make-the-internet-better-in-africa/ [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.internetsociety.org | A Vibrant Community Works to Make the Internet Better in Africa | Internet Society [04:37] techrights-news NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Monopolies #Apple to Make Changes to App Store Regulations in Settlement With U.S. Developers https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/apple-app-store-developers-class-action-1235004087/ [04:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Apple to Make Changes to App Store Regulations in Settlement With U.S. Developers The Hollywood Reporter [04:38] techrights-news NEWS #Reuters #Patents #Nvidia set to seek #EU okay for $54 bln Arm deal -sources https://www.reuters.com/technology/nvidia-set-seek-eu-okay-54-bln-arm-deal-sources-2021-08-27/ [04:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nvidia set to seek EU okay for $54 bln Arm deal -sources | Reuters [04:38] schestowitz-TR Ariadne: we talked about this in relation to China ^^^ [04:39] techrights-news NEWS #EndSoftwarePatents #swpats The threat of #softwarepatents persists https://endsoftwarepatents.org/2021/08/the-threat-of-software-patents-persists/ [04:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-endsoftwarepatents.org | The threat of software patents persists End Software Patents [04:47] *DaemonFC has quit (connection closed) [04:49] *schestowitz prepares EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part VI [04:49] schestowitz this one is a whopper [04:49] techrights-news NEWS #MichiganNews #Copyrights #Copyright How much was sons porn collection worth that parents destroyed? Judge decides value https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/2021/08/how-much-was-sons-porn-collection-worth-that-parents-destroyed-judge-decides-value.html [04:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How much was sons porn collection worth that parents destroyed? Judge decides value - mlive.com [04:49] techrights-news NEWS #HollywoodReporter #Copyrights #Copyright #Sony Moves Quickly to Block Alleged Spider-Man: No Way Home Trailer Leak on Social Media https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/sony-block-alleged-spider-man-no-way-home-trailer-leak-1235001375/ [04:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Spider-Man: No Way Home Trailer Allegedly Leaked on Social Media The Hollywood Reporter [04:50] *job has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:51] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ACE/MPA Target Sharing Sites Pulling in 1.3 Billion Visits Per Year, Including EZTV https://torrentfreak.com/ace-mpa-target-pirate-sites-pulling-in-1-3-billion-visits-per-year-including-eztv-210827/ [04:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ACE/MPA Target Pirate Sites Pulling in 1.3 Billion Visits Per Year, Including EZTV * TorrentFreak [04:51] techrights-news NEWS #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights #Leaseweb Must Share Personal Details of Sharing Customers With Movie Companies https://torrentfreak.com/leaseweb-must-share-personal-details-of-pirating-customers-with-movie-companies-210827/ [04:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Leaseweb Must Share Personal Details of 'Pirating' Customers With Movie Companies * TorrentFreak ● Aug 28 [05:02] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Canada #police Canadian Cops Blow Off Drone Operation Laws, Crash Their Drone Into A Landing Airplane https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210824/19471947428/canadian-cops-blow-off-drone-operation-laws-crash-their-drone-into-landing-airplane.shtml [05:02] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canadian Cops Blow Off Drone Operation Laws, Crash Their Drone Into A Landing Airplane | Techdirt [05:02] *job (~job@smcn9tvyk7gf8.irc) has joined #techrights [05:07] schestowitz-TR https://nitter.actionsack.com/globalync_net/status/1431464453317566465#m [05:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.actionsack.com | GLOBALYNC - Humanity (@globalync_net): "Security and Proprietary Software Leftovers #UX #security via http://twinybots.ch http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155003" | nitter [05:09] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [05:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.46 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 80.91 swarm size (avg): 265.80 [05:11] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt States Wouldn't Be Pushing Inconsistent Tech Laws If Congress Wasn't So Corrupt https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210825/09433447431/states-wouldnt-be-pushing-inconsistent-tech-laws-if-congress-wasnt-so-corrupt.shtml [05:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-States Wouldn't Be Pushing Inconsistent Tech Laws If Congress Wasn't So Corrupt | Techdirt [05:12] techrights-news NEWS #RaspberryPi #RasPi #GNU #Linux Super 8 camera goes digital with Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/super-8-camera-goes-digital-with-raspberry-pi/ [05:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | Super 8 camera goes digital with Raspberry Pi - Raspberry Pi [05:12] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Google Report Shows 'Reverse Warrants' Are Swiftly Becoming Law Enforcement's Go-To Investigative Tool https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210821/10494847401/google-report-shows-reverse-warrants-are-swiftly-becoming-law-enforcements-go-to-investigative-tool.shtml [05:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Report Shows 'Reverse Warrants' Are Swiftly Becoming Law Enforcement's Go-To Investigative Tool | Techdirt [05:16] techrights-news #eff should just tell members to #boycottApple but EFF got 'infiltrated' by Apple fanbis (and gals), so it won't do what's right https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/apples-plan-scan-photos-messages-turns-young-people-privacy-pawns [05:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Apples Plan to Scan Photos in Messages Turns Young People Into Privacy Pawns | Electronic Frontier Foundation [05:18] techrights-news #tmobile #security https://www.wsj.com/articles/t-mobile-hacker-who-stole-data-on-50-million-customers-their-security-is-awful-11629985105 [05:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-T-Mobile Hacker Who Stole Data on 50 Million Customers: Their Security Is Awful - WSJ [05:31] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #ContentModeration #censorship The Externalization Of Content Moderation: #Facebook Explores 'Election Commission' https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210826/23310847442/externalization-content-moderation-facebook-explores-election-commission.shtml [05:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Externalization Of Content Moderation: Facebook Explores 'Election Commission' | Techdirt [05:33] techrights-news Well, mistaking the actual music industry (people who sing, play etc.) and the recording #cartel or #oligopoly exploiting those who actually do #music https://www.cracked.com/article_31118_the-music-industry-doesnt-understand-music-it-never-did.html [05:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Music Industry Doesn't Understand Music; It Never Did | Cracked.com [05:36] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Copyright #Copyrights Copyright Scammers Getting More Sophisticated, Just As The US Is About To Make It Easier For Them https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210820/17143847397/copyright-scammers-getting-more-sophisticated-just-as-us-is-about-to-make-it-easier-them.shtml [05:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copyright Scammers Getting More Sophisticated, Just As The US Is About To Make It Easier For Them | Techdirt [05:37] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Copyright #Copyrights PSA: Universal Music Group Has Copyrighted The Moon. That is All. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210827/10313847445/psa-universal-music-group-has-copyrighted-moon-that-is-all.shtml [05:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PSA: Universal Music Group Has Copyrighted The Moon. That is All. | Techdirt [05:37] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #OnlyFans OnlyFans Flips Its Fanny https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/27/onlyfans-flips-its-fanny/ [05:37] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-OnlyFans Flips Its Fanny - CounterPunch.org [05:39] techrights-news #LibreELEC 10.0 minimal Linux OS for media playback released with Kodi 19.1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154975#comment-30756 [05:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | LibreELEC 10 Matrix Released with Better Raspberry Pi 4 Support | Tux Machines [05:40] techrights-news AMD ROCm 4.3.1 Released With RHEL 8.4 + SLES 15 SP3 Support - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-ROCm-4.3.1 #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/28/#latest [05:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD ROCm 4.3.1 Released With RHEL 8.4 + SLES 15 SP3 Support - Phoronix [05:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [05:42] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [05:42] *asusbox (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [05:45] *techrights_guest|76 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) [05:46] techrights-news Linux #Kernel and Linux Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155004 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Kernel and Linux Foundation | Tux Machines [05:46] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155005 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [05:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [05:47] techrights-news I had to LOL, seeing someone in #twitter insinuating that rejection of #ProprietarySoftware that abuses people (e.g. spying on them) is "elitism". [05:48] techrights-news NEWS #Techdirt #Accountablity Why Are We Letting School Administrators Use Qualified #Immunity To Escape Accountablity For Violating Free Speech Rights? https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210821/15180947404/why-are-we-letting-school-administrators-use-qualified-immunity-to-escape-accountablity-violating-free-speech-rights.shtml [05:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Are We Letting School Administrators Use Qualified Immunity To Escape Accountablity For Violating Free Speech Rights? | Techdirt [05:49] techrights-news NEWS #CreativeCommons Meet the CC Summit Presenter: Houcemeddine Turki https://creativecommons.org/2021/08/27/meet-the-cc-summit-presenter-houcemeddine-turki/ #TunisiaSummit [05:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Meet the CC Summit Presenter: Houcemeddine Turki - Creative Commons [05:52] techrights-news NEWS #EFF #Facebook #FB Facebooks Secret War on Switching Costs https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/facebooks-secret-war-switching-costs [05:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Facebooks Secret War on Switching Costs | Electronic Frontier Foundation ● Aug 28 [06:01] techrights-news Finnish Patent and Registration Office (PRH) Governed by a Criminal for Two Decades THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/preview-baltic-states/ #Techrights #finland #epo #fi #corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/preview-baltic-states/ [06:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Finnish Patent and Registration Office (PRH) Governed by a Criminal for Two Decades | Techrights [06:05] techrights-news [Meme] Mr. Casino #MarttiEnjrvi THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/meme-mr-casino-martti-enajarvi/ #Techrights #Enjrvi #Finland #Corruption | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/meme-mr-casino-martti-enajarvi/ [06:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Mr. Casino Martti Enjrvi | Techrights [06:09] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 32.91 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 64.65 swarm size (avg): 265.79 [06:16] techrights-news #ibm "splitting and trying (emphasis on the trying part) to return to being a growth stock." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cxTLZDt#replies [06:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | AMD's market cap just overtook IBM's! - post regarding IBM layoffs [06:16] techrights-news "I left #IBM in 2012 because I wanted to get into security - they had nothing then...and they still don't! Come-on man" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cx2Qz3c#replies [06:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Google, IBM, tech executives unveil cybersecurity commitments at White House Summit - post regarding IBM layoffs [06:21] techrights-news #masgnulinux still in flux https://masgnulinux.blog/ swapping between this and https://masgnulinux.es/ [06:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masgnulinux.blog | Sitio privado [06:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-masgnulinux.es | masGNULinux Blog Software y pensamiento libres [06:25] techrights-news Seems like a bit of a false dichotomy of Google (NSA) and #Microsoft (also NSA). False choice, akin to "Mac versus PC". Choose proper #gnu #linux distros. https://www.pcworld.com/article/3280998/chromebooks-versus-windows-laptops-which-should-you-buy.html [06:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chromebook vs. laptop: Buying advice and recommendations | PCWorld [06:25] techrights-news #drm is self-obsolescence https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/26/is-joe-rogan-shrinking-podcast-influence/ #streaming #walledgarden #plannedobsolescence [06:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2021/08/26/is-joe-rogan-shrinking-podcast-influence/ ) [06:26] techrights-news #uk and #gdpr https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/26/uk-to-overhaul-privacy-rules-in-post-brexit-departure-from-gdpr #eu #brexit #privacy [06:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | UK to overhaul privacy rules in post-Brexit departure from GDPR | GDPR | The Guardian [06:28] techrights-news We take a closer look at the PDFs published last night in EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part V and discuss the situation THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/preview-baltic-states/ #Techrights #PRH #Finland #Corruption #EPO | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/preview-baltic-states/ [06:28] techrights-news Martti 'cash machine' #Enjrvi helped install a malicious dictator inside the #EPO ; his legacy is important to assess closely even though he has retired (forensic post mortem of the EPOs demise certainly matters) THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/meme-mr-casino-martti-enajarvi/ #Techrights #PRH #Finland | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/meme-mr-casino-martti-enajarvi/ [06:41] techrights-news Links 28/8/2021: Wine 6.16 and man-pages 5.13 THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/wine-6-16/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/wine-6-16/ [06:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/8/2021: Wine 6.16 and man-pages 5.13 | Techrights [06:41] techrights-news #Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155006 [06:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines [06:42] techrights-news #Ubuntu Wallpapers and DataOps http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155007 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu Wallpapers and 'DataOps' | Tux Machines [06:42] techrights-news Todays Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155008 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines [06:45] techrights-news Today in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155009 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [06:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [06:49] techrights-news Memories of #epo suicides http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-270821.html#tAug%2027%2010:22:55 [06:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [06:51] techrights-news "DVI worked fine without HDCP" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-270821.html#tAug%2027%2013:56:35 #drm #hollywood #HDCP [06:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [06:52] techrights-news "However, of late, #Facebook has been making its presence known and there are more and more assholes not wearing masks and physically crowding others" http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-270821.html#tAug%2027%2015:38:14 [06:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 [06:52] *activelow has quit (Quit: leaving) [06:53] techrights-news Gemini traffic is growing very impressively. Not much debate about it anymore, but the number of adopters grew a lot this year. https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/ [06:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | The Gemini 2021 Archive by thread [06:56] techrights-news Need help: can anyone find out videos/transcripts/essays where #RMS speaks about #patents or #swpats in relation to #finland h http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-270821.html#tAug%2027%2007:38:13 [06:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, August 27, 2021 ● Aug 28 [07:03] *activelow (~activelow@5zadvnbxjf5te.irc) has joined #techrights [07:03] techrights-news 'Smart'... https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/03/should-your-fridge-have-its-own-phone/ [07:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Should your fridge have its own PHONE? | Stop at Zona-M [07:07] techrights-news More of that self-promotional sales pitch from #TrendMicro http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154818#comment-30757 see http://techrights.org/2021/08/26/distracting-from-disasters-of-microsoft/ [07:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [07:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Media Tells Us That Linux is the Danger While Many Patients Die From Microsoft Windows | Techrights [07:07] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights [07:07] techrights-news Old: Just a reminder of some #COVID19 effects on women | Stop at Zona-M https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/03/just-a-reminder-of-some-covid-effects-on-women/ [07:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Just a reminder of some COVID effects on women | Stop at Zona-M [07:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.95 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 58.15 swarm size (avg): 265.78 [07:12] *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] AdmFubar https://arstechnica.com/?p=1790331 [07:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | Worst cloud vulnerability you can imagine discovered in Microsoft Azure | Ars Technica [07:27] schestowitz-TR :-D [07:28] schestowitz-TR BUT LINUX!!! [07:29] techrights-news #microsoft #ProprietarySoftware #clowncomputing https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/08/worst-cloud-vulnerability-you-can-imagine-discovered-in-microsoft-azure/ no wonder #azure is dying and laying off staff after a decade+ of losses [07:30] techrights-news "Youre welcome to believe otherwise though. Youre welcome to believe that the 71.355 billion #Microsoft spent on stock #buybacks since March of 2018 were made to benefit the shareholders too; but thats for another day." http://techrights.org/2021/07/31/azure-stagnating/ [07:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Azure Stagnating | Techrights [07:37] techrights-news On the #internet nobody knows you're a dog. On #clownComputing no-one knows you're pw3ned until journalists are on holiday and several years late #microsoft decides to bark... [07:43] activelow AdmFubar: the clown vulnerability reminds me of the NoSQL project in 2015/16, when i invested some time to implement an ACL frontend for elasticsearch cluster [07:43] activelow i cut all direct access to the database, and placed a MVC frontend with Java Spring ACLs upfront [07:46] techrights-news NEWS #CounterPunch #Africa Amazons Drive Into Africa https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/27/amazons-drive-into-africa/ "Amazon is intended as the main tenant, with its headquarters covering 70,000 square metres" [07:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Amazons Drive Into Africa - CounterPunch.org [07:48] activelow with this system architecture it was possible then to administer unix-like discretionary access control per NoSQL index; of cause security relied on all ports and direct access to the cluster closed, which i did [07:49] schestowitz "The Internet? We are not interested in it." - Pervert Bill Gates, 1993 [07:49] schestowitz they could not even LOCALLY secure their crap [07:50] activelow and yes, the company i worked was a microsoft companion, yet didn't fully realize what a software architect and skilled developer did [07:51] activelow contentxxl.de it was, supplier of german aerospace dlr.de, Zurich switzerland, microsoft [07:52] activelow i think they "outsource" development, to pitch who comes up with best ideas, and then reiterate over suppliers with the higher-level understanding of theirs [07:57] activelow the following job placement offer from IBM mentioned liferay CMS, maybe dlr.de wasn't happy with the microsoft CMS from contentxxl.de [07:59] activelow and, the contentxxl.de/microsoft CEO often mentioned "Azure" i should have deployed to, which i simply didn't know how since my stuff was Java ● Aug 28 [08:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.08 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 61.91 swarm size (avg): 265.76 [08:11] activelow to remain fair dlr.de isn't a software company, they only decide upon whom they source from, similar to NASA or Roskosmos [08:11] techrights-news "For folks who think that #Microsoft or #Google or any tech mega corp (even hasbeens or wannabes) are redeemable, let me point you to this bit of megacorporate treachery (the revelation in NZ Parliament was instrumental to NZ's banning of any new software patents)" https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@lightweight/106825694013553090 [08:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.nzoss.nz | Dave Lane: "For folks who think that Microsoft or Google or a" - Mastodon - NZOSS [08:12] techrights-news New language on #surveillance without criminal suspicion? https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=sv&u=https://femtejuli.se/2021/08/27/nysprak-om-overvakning-utan-brottsmisstanke/ [08:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate [08:13] techrights-news #SourceHut is #hiring #FOSS software engineers https://framapiaf.org/@julm/106804431712979520 good proponets of #freesw ... support them! [08:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-framapiaf.org | Julien M.: "> #SourceHut is #hiring #FOSS software engineers " - Framapiaf [08:14] techrights-news Great #geminiSpace client that I love and use a lot. https://telescope.omarpolo.com/ still early stages of development. #freesw #geminiProtocol #internet [08:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telescope.omarpolo.com | Telescope [08:15] techrights-news " #EPA is falsifying risk assessments for dangerous chemicals, say whistleblowers" https://mastodon.social/@glynmoody/106829784247770771 [08:15] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Glyn Moody: "EPA is falsifying risk assessments for dangerous " - Mastodon [08:16] techrights-news "If your *PHP* theme needs *node.js* to "build". You have utterly failed. Please stop what you're doing and find something else to do with your life." https://fosstodon.org/@nathand/106829932844406841 [08:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fosstodon.org | Nathan DeGruchy: "If your *PHP* theme needs *node.js* to "build". Y" - Fosstodon [08:17] techrights-news "Apparently, I really like raspberry pi _boxes._ The boxes they come in. Because, in going through, and organizing my various SBC projects, I have found - essentially - a shoebox full of RPI boxes." https://icosahedron.website/@Truck/106824472550882690 [08:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-icosahedron.website | Sir Garbagetruck: "Apparently, I really like raspberry pi _boxes._ " - Icosahedron [08:17] activelow https://www.dw.com/en/bavaria-one-german-state-to-launch-its-own-space-program/a-45746997 [08:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bavaria One: German state to launch its own space program | News | DW | 05.10.2018 [08:18] techrights-news "Today I've been using 'mkjail update -a' to update all my jails with respect to recent published known vulns on #FreeBSD. Why update the jail and the host? Because I can." Wait for #ibm et al to insist we must abolish the term "jail" as it irritates ex-convict programmers/syadmins... https://mastodon.social/@dvl/106823475082592290 [08:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Dan Langille: "Today I've been using 'mkjail update -a' to updat" - Mastodon [08:19] techrights-news "I just recently realised, that proprietary social networks are not social networks but entertainment networks. That's why at least my friends have a hard time switching to mastodon or pixelfed. People expect to be highly entertained the first second they enter the network" https://mastodon.social/@le_ArthurDent/106826538197222041 [08:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.social | Arthur Dent: "I just recently realised, that proprietary social" - Mastodon [08:19] techrights-news "Social networks are a misnomer. They actually are content firehoses. People addicted to infoporn/gossip need more of that." https://mastodon.technology/@akshay/106827191928931630 [08:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mastodon.technology | Akshay S Dinesh : "@le_ArthurDent@mastodon.social Social networks ar" - Mastodon for Tech Folks [08:21] techrights-news NEWS #CommonDreams #grifting Opinion | The Only Real Socialism in the US Is Corporate Welfare https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/08/27/only-real-socialism-us-corporate-welfare #microsoft for instance: http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/microsoft-graft/ [08:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Only Real Socialism in the US Is Corporate Welfare | Robert Reich [08:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | With Help From Donald Trump, Microsoft is Plundering and Looting the American Taxpayers, Then Gloating About It | Techrights [08:26] techrights-news #socialcontrolmedia : where people claim I said something that I never actually said. #strawmen #socialcontrolnetwork #bullshitOnline [08:26] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:27] techrights-news Apropos: #SocialControlMedia : Where Cancel Culture Thrives THgiHT http://techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/06/08/twitter-cancel-culture/ [08:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Social Control Media: Where Cancel Culture Thrives | Techrights [08:28] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [08:33] techrights-news "The Internet? We are not interested in it." #BillGates in 1993. Gates in 2020: people on the #internet say bad things about me, let's ban them! http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ [08:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights [08:37] techrights-news Pure hype for financial bubbles. ML goes DECADES back. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/5-stocks-to-watch-amid-evolving-machine-learning-applications-2021-08-26 [08:38] *TechrightsBot-tr has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [08:40] techrights-news #microsoftTim on GNOME http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154946#comment-30758 [08:41] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@ju4kayhrhsm6a.irc) has joined #techrights [08:41] TechrightsBot-tr Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 [08:42] techrights-news #ProprietarySoftware #microsoft https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/23/power_shell_records/ [08:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | 38 million records exposed by misconfigured Microsoft Power Apps. Redmond's advice? RTFM The Register [08:43] techrights-news Too many buzzwords https://news.fiu.edu/2021/three-critical-skills-youll-need-to-succeed-in-the-21st-century-workforce-and-how-you-can-develop-them-this-year [08:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.fiu.edu | 3 skills critical for success in 21st century and how to develop them through newly launched micro-credentials | FIU News - Florida International University [08:44] techrights-news s #IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 27, 2021 THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/irc-log-270821/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/irc-log-270821/ [08:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, August 27, 2021 | Techrights [08:45] techrights-news This week in KDE: Accent colors! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155010 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #KDE [08:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Accent colors! | Tux Machines [08:47] techrights-news #biden asking #microsoft for advice on #security ... maybe he should also invite Gates to the white House to discuss how to protect little girls from sex traffickers. http://techrights.org/2020/11/08/political-debt/ #billgates #epstein [08:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Who President Biden is Indebted to (e.g. Google Monopoly and the Financial Sector) | Techrights [08:48] techrights-news 2020: #Microsoft is Already Bribing the Likely Next US President (Having Also Paid the Trump Campaign) to Ensure Microsoft Can Get Away With Crimes and Receive Bailouts from Taxpayers THgiHT http://techrights.org/2020/10/30/bribing-for-bailouts/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2020/10/30/bribing-for-bailouts/ [08:48] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Already Bribing the Likely Next US President (Having Also Paid the Trump Campaign) to Ensure Microsoft Can Get Away With Crimes and Receive Bailouts from Taxpayers | Techrights [08:50] techrights-news #billgates a regular visitor at the #whitehouse ... when his very busy schedule wasn't clogged up by countless meetings at the various homes of Jeffrey #epstein (whose plane he took there instead of SEVERAL of his own) http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_influence_in_the_United_States_government [08:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft influence in the United States government - Techrights [08:50] *immibis (~hexchat@acad4bt9wne9w.irc) has joined #techrights [08:50] *immibis (~hexchat@62.156.144.218) has joined #techrights [08:51] techrights-news Remember that #twitter has already BANNED several people for saying true things about #billgates while Gates paid Twitter. http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [08:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [08:56] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Aug 28 [09:00] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155011 #Linux #TuxMachines [09:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [09:10] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 16.98 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 94.88 swarm size (avg): 265.73 [09:10] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [09:18] techrights-news 5 Months Later People Still Remove Their Names From the Slanderous Anti-RMS Petition, Managed by #IBM Staff THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/rms-petition-self-purge/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/rms-petition-self-purge/ [09:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 5 Months Later People Still Remove Their Names From the Slanderous Anti-RMS Petition, Managed by IBM Staff | Techrights [09:21] techrights-news #IBM Attacking Communities/Volunteers http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM#Attacking_Communities.2FVolunteers trying to privatise #gnu and #linux so as to make #freesw their own monopoly (of course they will fail!) [09:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights [09:53] activelow seems i was in error: all VT100 ps/2 vga terminals i found contain proprietary chips and/or rely on Vista tooling [09:57] activelow checking the bill of materials, only the "Gigatron fully open source" is clean, could be in error [09:57] activelow https://gigatron.io/?p=2230 [09:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gigatron.io | Gigatron fully open source Gigatron [09:57] activelow to remain 100% free and open source i arrived at pre Apple1 era early 1970s design and manufacturing ● Aug 28 [10:05] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:05] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [10:20] activelow this includes concerns of peripheral I/O, which NASA wouldn't have with their 8068 stockpiles and 8inch floppies, it it wasn't hearsay they stockpiled such [10:21] activelow otherwise, a Z80 or similar with serial I/O is free too; but a terminal is required, and this isn't except for the gigatron route [10:23] activelow as soon as some Microchip PIC16 or PIC32 is implanted, or a cortex ARM (STM32), then it isn't a free and open source design anymore [10:24] activelow and, even if some open ARM could be deployed to FPGA, this probably involves proprietary tooling again somewhere [10:25] activelow besides, my first students projects was the "Berlin Clock", which i fiddled together in Altera studio with some 74xx counters and logic gates [10:25] activelow and it was extremely irritating to do this with Altera studio at a Wintel PC, with a sophisticated CAD system, unnecessarily [10:26] activelow other groups chose programmable array logic (PAL/GAL) for their simplicity and avoided altera [10:27] activelow later then, to print the PCB (which my team skipped in favor of a clumsy breadboard), "Eagle CAD" was required, again greeted by Wintel PC [10:29] activelow once an Intel engineer visited us, and seemed concerned when saying FABs were established at a 5year cycle for new equipment, this was short lived etc. [10:30] activelow in parallel AMD established their plants a few kilometers away in Dresden, where Bosch now dumps billions of cash into, to provide german automotive with required chips [10:30] activelow would be curious, if and how many euros were invested into the gigatron type developement, if at all [10:33] activelow Arizona manufacturing shall be revived again, after the long-term reliable supply for motorola (iirc) there ceased [10:33] activelow for almost a year i worked for Hager group, deeply embedded stuff, once i had seen their workflow i've had enough after a short glimpse [10:34] activelow proprietary IDEs on Wintel PC everywhere, to deploy and debug onto PIC and MSP430 chips, what a horror show [10:50] activelow interesting, denx.de Munich again [10:50] activelow https://duckduckgo.com/l/?uddg=https%3A%2F%2Felinux.org%2Fimages%2F7%2F79%2FOpen-Source_Tools_for_FPGA_Development.pdf¬rut=duckduck_in [10:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-duckduckgo.com | NO TITLE [10:50] activelow ups [10:50] activelow https://elinux.org/images/7/79/Open-Source_Tools_for_FPGA_Development.pdf [10:57] schestowitz hmm [10:57] schestowitz btw, I've just done a video on IBM [10:57] schestowitz they're floudering very badly [10:57] schestowitz and attacking us [10:58] techrights-news "The #GNOME Project was started by Miguel de Icaza who now works for Microsoft. Miguel was a former President of the #GNOMEFoundation and Vice President at Novell." http://techrights.org/wiki/GNOME_Foundation [10:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation - Techrights [10:59] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@2tp9thddphthu.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [11:06] techrights-news It certainly feels like #IBM is managing the purge of the #Freesoftware community (not just by proxy, e.g. #OSI and #GNOMEFoundation ) and people needed to ask IBM for permission to be removed from a letter they had signed (with several days for approval to be given) http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/rms-petition-self-purge/ [11:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 5 Months Later People Still Remove Their Names From the Slanderous Anti-RMS Petition, Managed by IBM Staff | Techrights [11:08] activelow lattice semiconductor: "Aforementioned tools can be assembled into complete flows which take HDL and produce bitstream" [11:08] techrights-news Up next: 33-min video about the state of #ibm (which #techrights has watched closely for years) [11:09] activelow to my knowledge neither Altera (Intel) nor Xilinx (AMD?) provide opensource tooling [11:09] activelow and lattice semiconductor is, a voila, associated with Zilog, the glorious Z80 [11:09] activelow "Bruno Guilmart left the company in August 2010, and Darin Billerbeck, former Zilog CEO, who had just sold Zilog in the previous year, was named the new CEO [of lattice semiconductor] in October of that year, starting in November." [11:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 32.63 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 45.78 swarm size (avg): 265.70 [11:12] techrights-news "This #JFrog CLIcommand makes a copy of the mult-arch image we created in the docker-local repository." https://www.marketscreener.com/quote/stock/JFROG-LTD-112440355/news/The-More-the-Merrier-Multi-Arch-Docker-Manifests-with-Buildx-and-Artifactory-36251030/ [11:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The More the Merrier: Multi-Arch Docker Manifests with Buildx and Artifactory | MarketScreener [11:16] techrights-news "After the First World War and Germany's defeat, it ceded the territory to Belgium. Both Germans and Belgians ruled Burundi and Rwanda as a European colony known as Ruanda-Urundi." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burundi [11:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Burundi - Wikipedia [11:22] techrights-news The 5 Best Ways to Learn #Java Online in 2021 https://www.makeuseof.com/learn-java-online/ #programming [11:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | The 5 Best Ways to Learn Java Online in 2021 [11:23] techrights-news Move to #geminiProtocol ... no cookies and other nonsense. https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-browser-fingerprinting/ [11:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | What Is Browser Fingerprinting and How Can You Defend Yourself Against It? [11:23] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:23] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:30] techrights-news #Wireshark 3.4.8 https://www.neowin.net/news/wireshark-348/ #gnu #linux [11:30] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.neowin.net | Wireshark 3.4.8 - Neowin [11:35] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:35] techrights-news Hands-On: MNT Reforms The Laptop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155012 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [11:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On: MNT Reforms The Laptop | Tux Machines [11:36] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [12:10] techrights-news #fakepatents and #cafc on #patents #uspto too eager to allow. "The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (CAFC) today reversed a jury verdict for Juno Therapeutics and Sloan Kettering Institute for Cancer Research (Juno), wiping out a $1.2 billion judgment for the entities. The CAFC found that the jurys verdict with respect to written description was not supported by substantial evidence." [12:12] techrights-news Raymond Millien at Watchtroll says "In First Half of 2021, 63% of U.S. Patents, 48.9% at EPO and 40.1% in China Were Software-Related" so basically #fakepatents at #epo http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO [12:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights [12:13] techrights-news Steve Brachmann (Watchtroll): "Federal Circuit Affirms 101 Invalidation of Secure Transaction System Patents in Victory for Apple and Visa," so #swpats are also #fakepatents in American courts too [12:16] DaemonFC Whoever is prying open the mailboxes is doing it between 4:30 and 5 AM. [12:16] schestowitz seems safe [12:16] schestowitz for both them and for other people [12:16] DaemonFC I'm thinking about leaving them a note. [12:16] schestowitz a letter [12:16] schestowitz with anthrax [12:17] DaemonFC "It's not worth what's going to happen if I catch you." [12:19] schestowitz "I have a crimincal record for holding up a knife. AND I AM BEHIND YOU!" [12:25] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155013 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [12:29] *inky (~inky@46.162.247.51) has joined #techrights [12:30] *_inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:31] techrights-news "Back in November, I observed that Libra Shrugged, or How Facebook Tried To Take Over The Money, looked like the next book I (and you too) should read. Since then, I read it, and can confirm that first impression." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/04/whats-good-in-libra-shrugged-arrogance-exposed./ [12:31] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | What's good in Libra Shrugged? Arrogance, exposed. | Stop at Zona-M [12:34] techrights-news #KDE Plasma 5.23 Will Be Another Exciting Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155010#comment-30759 [12:34] activelow build0815 [12:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Accent colors! | Tux Machines [12:35] techrights-news Parse command-line options in Groovy | https://opensource.com/article/21/8/parsing-command-options-groovy #FreeSW #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux [12:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parse command-line options in Groovy | Opensource.com [12:36] techrights-news 4 Best Terminal Emulators Built With Web Technologies http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155014 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [12:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 4 Best Terminal Emulators Built With Web Technologies | Tux Machines [12:45] *_inky (~inky@37.186.117.147) has joined #techrights [12:47] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [12:49] DaemonFC "I have a crimincal record for holding up a knife. AND I AM BEHIND YOU!" [12:49] DaemonFC That's not funny. [12:50] DaemonFC schestowitz, They gave me my FOID card back. [12:50] DaemonFC So how much of a threat do they really think I am? [12:50] DaemonFC That just shows you how the whole thing was so full of shit. [12:52] DaemonFC "Oh, he's a menace. Very dangerous." [12:52] DaemonFC Also the state: "By the way, here's your gun permit back, you dangerous person you!" [12:52] DaemonFC MinceR, ^ [12:53] DaemonFC Whether you're too dangerous to own a gun depends on a few things, like how good of a lawyer you can afford to stand there and argue things and file motions in court, and what your psychiatrist has said about you lately. [12:54] DaemonFC Papers go one way or the other and a person who is more dangerous gets a gun permit while a person who is not dangerous gets denied and the police won't say why. [12:56] MinceR lol @ azure vulnerability [12:56] schestowitz-TR azure IS the vulnerability ● Aug 28 [13:08] DaemonFC You configured this wrong. [13:09] DaemonFC There is nothing wrong with Azure. [13:09] MinceR lol [13:09] DaemonFC Our customers configure it wrong! [13:09] MinceR you're holding it wrong [13:09] DaemonFC schestowitz-TR, Now T-Mobile says I need to trade in our phones for T-Mobile phones. [13:09] MinceR lol [13:10] DaemonFC They're offering me a free upgrade to a Galaxy S21, but none of the stores have them. [13:10] MinceR time to pay for being provider locked [13:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 30.90 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 93.05 swarm size (avg): 265.67 [13:10] DaemonFC They set up an upgrade appointment in Gurnee and then when I drove over there, they said "Nobody has these and we can't get you one for at least a month.". [13:10] DaemonFC "There's a chip shortage." [13:11] DaemonFC So I called "Customer Care" and said, "It doesn't have to be a Samsung phone. If you give me an $800 credit to use on any other phone, I'm sure I can find something. Then I can change my account over from Sprint.". [13:11] DaemonFC And they aren't authorized to do that, somehow, even though they're in charge of who gets what. [13:12] DaemonFC The people in the T-Mobile stores don't care what's going on with your phone and won't even touch it unless you bought their crummy phone insurance. [13:12] DaemonFC It's better to "self-insure". [13:12] DaemonFC The cost of fixing a broken charge port or screen out of pocket is very nearly always less than paying for even 6-7 months of "insurance". [13:17] techrights-news "Digitization makes things more efficient. Including bad things." https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/04/indonesias-discrimination-by-database/ [13:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Indonesia's discrimination by database | Stop at Zona-M [13:19] schestowitz https://stop.zona-m.net/2021/04/on-richard-stallman-ousted-from-fsf/ [13:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | On Richard Stallman ousted from FSF | Stop at Zona-M [13:19] schestowitz "Seriously, the real problem in this whole story is that we had to wait for someone from the outside, who knows absolutely nothing about Free Software and maybe was not even born when the movement started, to attack Stallman (rightly or not, its a whole other issue I will not go into) for something that has nothing to do with Free Software " [13:32] DaemonFC I bumped up our third dose to tomorrow afternoon. [13:32] DaemonFC Not really looking forward to it, but it's clear that the vaccine is working. [13:32] DaemonFC There's 7-8 times as many daily cases per capita in counties with low vaccine uptake. [13:33] DaemonFC We haven't reached herd immunity where I live, but we're a lot closer than where mom lives. [13:33] DaemonFC 22 daily cases per 100,000 vs 146. [13:34] DaemonFC "Seriously, the real problem in this whole story is that we had to wait for someone from the outside, who knows absolutely nothing about Free Software and maybe was not even born when the movement started, to attack Stallman (rightly or not, its a whole other issue I will not go into) for something that has nothing to do with Free Software " [13:34] DaemonFC They picked an unfortunate name that was ambiguous. [13:34] DaemonFC When you even mention Free Software, you immediately have to explain what it means because people are like "I get free app in the store.". [13:36] activelow it hurts [13:37] activelow how could anyone explain then best free and open system is Z80 realm and lattice iCE40 FPGA; and not at least this is fully liberated (VGA mainly) [13:38] activelow the "parallax propeller" is common for VGA with Z80 type systems, but i am not aware of any project which deployed this propeller chip to fpga [13:38] activelow and, version2 of this chip often used for VGA isn't free and open anymore it seems [13:39] activelow the microchip and software for this is most often fully proprietary: https://shop.boxtec.ch/images/31754_b.jpg [13:40] activelow 1980s IBM PC peripheral I/O [13:40] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [13:43] activelow and then explain why untapped 640x480 16colors with PS/2 keyboard is awesome [13:43] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [13:44] *psydroid_ has quit (connection closed) [13:45] *psydroid_ (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [13:45] activelow https://hackaday.com/tag/ice40/ [13:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ICE40 | Hackaday [13:45] activelow "it is no secret that we like the Lattice iCE40 FPGA" [13:53] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [13:53] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [14:01] *MinceR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:04] DaemonFC schestowitz, https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/08/28/microsoft-and-innovation/ [14:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsoft and innovation. BaronHK's Rants [14:04] DaemonFC "In 20 years of Linux systems, Ive never had a security disaster on any of those systems. On Windows, theres been a couple, but more often than not, the failure of Windows is that one day it simply corrupts _itself_ so badly that the computer cant even boot anymore and you spend all day cleaning up the mess. Recently, I updated a BIOS to one Lenovo told me to install, and BAM, I had to reinstall Windows because they corrupte [14:04] DaemonFC d the bootloader somehow. Nobody even knows how the boot process works on a PC anymore, now that Microsoft specifications for the PC firmware have it so jacked up!" [14:05] DaemonFC "One way or the other, none of the data you entrust to Windows is safe, whether from malicious entities or Windows itself. Why fix bugs when you can put in rounded corners and ribbons? [14:05] DaemonFC " [14:05] DaemonFC "President Biden invited Microsoft, Amazon, and Apple to a security roundtable. A few years back, Comcast was advertising Business Class with advanced Microsoft Security. Its rather like inviting Jack the Ripper to discuss the safety of sex workers in London, circa 1888. They dont have any consequences for not fixing their bugs, and so they wont, even if they knew where to begin, which they dont. [14:05] DaemonFC " [14:07] DaemonFC "Its unclear how long Microsoft can keep this Windows mess going on in light of competitors who aggressively improve their offerings. Its no wonder that George R.R. Martin prefers DOS to Windows 10, though. [14:07] DaemonFC It is what it is, it does what it does, and he doesnt have to worry about waking up one morning and finding that Microsoft has uprooted everything and trashed his data and he doesnt know where the buttons are. [14:07] DaemonFC Thats worth a lot more than rounded corners. Rounded corners, ribbons, and paid blurbs in canned media are not going to save Windows from going down in the undercurrent of consumer choice, which has already lowered their share of the consumer market to 74% and the server market into the 20s." [14:12] DaemonFC schestowitz, National Geographic is race baiting now. [14:12] DaemonFC Cities are racist because the Democrat politicians that the blacks voted for didn't plant trees, and now things are hot hot hot. [14:14] DaemonFC Maybe if they put some green spaces in instead of weave and nail salons, this wouldn't be a problem. [14:16] DaemonFC schestowitz, I might get a cheap dashcam and put it up in the mail room pointed at the mailboxes. [14:17] DaemonFC Email the video to the police the next time someone jacks the boxes open. [14:19] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:19] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:22] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:23] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [14:32] *inky (~inky@5.77.156.91) has joined #techrights [14:34] *_inky has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [14:38] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:38] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [14:51] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:51] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:52] techrights-news [Meme] Smoking Pts THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/potztausend/ #Techrights #EPO #patents #patent | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/potztausend/ [14:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Smoking Pts | Techrights [14:59] techrights-news Wine-Staging 6.16 Implements Two More D3DX Functions To Help Some Windows Games http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155000#comment-30760 [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine [6.16] Announcement | Tux Machines ● Aug 28 [15:00] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:01] DaemonFC schestowitz, I replied to Apple Insider on Facebook about the sexual harassment scandal unfolding at Apple. [15:01] DaemonFC "Apple pays women less, gropes women, and directs women to Crisis Pregnancy Centers with Siri. Tim Cook shook hands with Trump and turned over cell phone data from immigrants to ICE alongside Facebook. [15:01] DaemonFC Now there's a "scanner" that sends your iMessages to the police. A Scanner Darkly. [15:01] DaemonFC Very "progressive" company, you see." [15:02] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [15:04] XRevan86 https://nitter.eu/sparr0/status/1431423864148430851 "what's up with that?" [15:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 429 @ https://nitter.eu/sparr0/status/1431423864148430851 ) [15:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 21.93 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 106.45 swarm size (avg): 265.66 [15:12] techrights-news #IBM Cannot Possibly Recover by Attacking the Software Community and Alienating Geeks THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/ibm-alienating-geeks/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/ibm-alienating-geeks/ [15:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Cannot Possibly Recover by Attacking the Software Community and Alienating Geeks | Techrights [15:13] schestowitz-TR DaemonFC: can you check ^^? [15:14] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: yes, I have said that before [15:14] schestowitz-TR disarray [15:17] XRevan86 schestowitz: I suspect that people like this, who didn't get the news, are the ones who make /lusers, but then that doesn't explain why it doesn't shrink back down. [15:17] schestowitz-TR yes, my assumption toio [15:17] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: some sites still link to freenode webchat [15:18] XRevan86 schestowitz: webchat is not going to make it persistently grow. [15:19] schestowitz oh wait [15:19] schestowitz http://www.makululinux.com/wp/live-chat/ [15:19] schestowitz I think they removed freenode [15:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Live Chat MakuluLinux [15:19] schestowitz they must have read my post [15:19] schestowitz telling them freenode webchat is no longer usable [15:21] schestowitz it's outside my scrolling bufdfer now [15:21] XRevan86 What even is this distribution and why is it using Discord for communication? [15:21] schestowitz so I cannot find it easily atm [15:22] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/tags/freenode [15:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #freenode [15:22] schestowitz oh, oops [15:22] schestowitz wrong distro [15:22] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21456250 [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #openmediavault 5.6.14 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154950 They need to update their #irc section as it still links to #freenode which doesn't even allow access anymore [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | openmediavault 5.6.14 | Tux Machines [15:23] schestowitz it was this one [15:23] schestowitz yes, I know makulu uses discord [15:23] schestowitz which is in bad taste [15:23] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21360580 [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: [Meme] #Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months http://techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/11/freenode-down-to-a-thousand/ [15:23] schestowitz "Its dead man, there is no one left there! Dont spread false stuff please' [15:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Lost 99% of Its Users in Less Than 3 Months | Techrights [15:24] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21356992 [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: #Freenode is Compromised http://techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/10/freenode-is-compromised/ [15:24] schestowitz " [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Freenode is Compromised | Techrights [15:24] schestowitz Haha well yes, its been a long time now, everyones moved to libera.chat already [15:24] schestowitz ictus@diasp.org [15:24] schestowitz ictus@diasp.org - 17 days ago [15:24] schestowitz Its nice to see that libera is keeping up the old irc spirit. Freenodead [15:24] schestowitz Michele Santullo [15:24] schestowitz Michele Santullo - 17 days ago [15:24] DaemonFC "if not utterly appalling" [15:24] schestowitz Yep, it feels like nothing has changed to me. Anyways, this is yesterdays news! [15:24] schestowitz ' [15:24] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21356907 [15:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: chat.freenode.net has become irc.joseon.kr so the joke about #freenode becoming "LeeNode" is no longer a joke. [15:24] schestowitz "flee node" [15:24] DaemonFC Should be in parenthesis. [15:24] schestowitz Oliva [15:25] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21344091 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: For reasons unknown to anyone, #Freenode continues to destroy itself; mandating registration ( #IRCcom ) has halved the number of online users (running the /lusers command shows the output below) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ #Techrights #Internet #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Down to 4-Digit Usercount (Down 90% Since May) | Techrights [15:25] schestowitz " [15:25] schestowitz Its not freenode anymore. [15:25] schestowitz Its freenodead. [15:25] schestowitz " [15:25] schestowitz Oliva: "free?nope!" [15:25] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21315827 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Destroying #Freenode Was Not the Objective, But Thats Just What Happened http://techrights.org/2021/08/04/freenode-future/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/04/freenode-future/ [15:25] schestowitz "I used to like XChat too, it was very easy to use.' [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Destroying Freenode Was Not the Objective, But Thats Just What Happened | Techrights [15:25] schestowitz https://joindiaspora.com/posts/21305649 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #freenode is falling apart and thousands of logged in users won't be able to get back in when they're logged out (unless they give some identities) http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-020821.html#tAug%2002%2020:42:25 [15:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Monday, August 02, 2021 [15:25] schestowitz "Fk it." [15:26] schestowitz indeed [15:26] DaemonFC "same companies working hard" [15:26] DaemonFC same companies which are working hard [15:26] techrights-news ...since the general media is failing to write about IBM #layoffs and talent retention issues , I've just covered it myself: #IBM Cannot Possibly Recover by Attacking the #FreeSoftware Community and Alienating #Geeks http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/ibm-alienating-geeks/ [15:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Cannot Possibly Recover by Attacking the Software Community and Alienating Geeks | Techrights [15:26] DaemonFC "Weve added this to IBM Attacking Communities/Volunteers examples (see our IBM wiki). " [15:27] DaemonFC Weve added this to examples of IBM Attacking Communities/Volunteers (see our IBM wiki). [15:28] schestowitz-TR amended [15:29] DaemonFC "some of them worry about their IBM pensions" [15:29] DaemonFC The Pension Guaranty Corp would have to take those over if IBM failed. [15:30] schestowitz-TR assuming the US is still functional by them [15:30] schestowitz-TR some of those former workers wait 10-30 years more [15:30] schestowitz-TR maybe IBM can turn them into literal slaves to help pay back national debt [15:35] activelow S100 BUS Z80 (8080) system was the predecessor of IBM PC with their MS-DOS [15:36] activelow and, the designer departed from Intel in anger, founding Zilog at that time, which nowadays is associated to Lattice Semiconductor [15:37] activelow with [15:39] *job has quit (connection closed) [15:43] XRevan86 schestowitz: openmediavault still hasn't fixed the link. [15:44] schestowitz-TR :( [15:45] techrights-news About Half of the Supposed Growth in Patents is Abstract Stuff or 'Software-Related (Patents That Courts Would Quite Likely Reject) THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/swpats-crisis/ #Techrights #USPTO #EPO #swpats | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/swpats-crisis/ [15:45] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | About Half of the Supposed Growth in Patents is Abstract Stuff or Software-Related (Patents That Courts Would Quite Likely Reject) | Techrights [15:46] *CrystalMath (~coderain@5wc463cjpx3js.irc) has joined #techrights [15:47] techrights-news More on #SoftwarePatents in #Europe http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_Europe #epo #swpats [15:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights ● Aug 28 [16:07] activelow https://www.theregister.com/2001/11/26/cp_m_collection_is_back/ [16:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | CP/M collection is back online with an Open Source licence The Register [16:11] DaemonFC https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/08/28/getting-a-covid-test-in-america-really-isnt-that-easy-and-especially-if-you-want-the-free-one/ [16:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Getting a COVID test in America really isnt that easy, and especially if you want the free one. BaronHK's Rants [16:11] DaemonFC "Were playing the vaccination game by ear for a while. Thanks to self-entitled and ignorant people who wont get the vaccine out there, this godawful thing is turning into something the vaccine is less effective on, and Pfizer has to go to work on a fourth shot that the Coronavirus will hopefully be less able to adapt to. [16:11] DaemonFC Thats good for Pfizer, I suppose. They can use all of the dummies and nutcases out there to help them keep selling the rest of us a reformulated vaccine, year after year, for a problem that could have been solved." [16:12] blitzed !COFFEE *b33p* *b00p* [16:12] schestowitz-TR :0 [16:15] blitzed CP/M *LOL* I know a guy who actually uses CP/M as his main daily driver OS, on a Commodore 128, and he coded TCP/IP and all [16:15] blitzed sometimes old habits die hard [16:17] blitzed I can use IRC on Commodore 64 & Amiga 4000, but I do not run the classic gear in the summer heat :b [16:20] activelow i am reviewing options currently for z80; peripheral I/O is a problem, which requires extensions i do not like [16:23] activelow vt100 type terminal with real VGA and PS/2; and without any proprietary tooling or chips or obfuscated/undocumented roms involved anywhere [16:24] blitzed neat activelow /0 [16:47] *activelow has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:56] *rianne_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:56] *liberty_box has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [16:57] *activelow (~activelow@fxsbfjxnxtcmn.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [17:04] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [17:05] *inky (~inky@188.115.228.28) has joined #techrights [17:08] *rianne_ (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] *liberty_box (~liberty@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [17:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 22.06 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 71.26 swarm size (avg): 265.63 [17:10] *CParadoxum_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:11] *psydroid2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:12] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [17:17] *CParadoxum_ (~quassel@m4gsqtdgyy73q.irc) has joined #techrights [17:23] schestowitz-TR 45-min video [17:23] schestowitz-TR about epo [17:23] schestowitz-TR transcoding now... will uploading tonight [17:23] schestowitz-TR 650mb rawq [17:33] *chunky has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:34] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [17:34] techrights-news "When #IBM exited Intel, they doomed channels. Channels survived due to having multiple HW and SW offerings. Power and Storage are NICHE HW and SW offerings that dont fund their staffing levels anymore" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cyspOuw#replies [17:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Channels just got too big! - post regarding IBM layoffs [17:34] techrights-news Full Circle Magazine #172 https://fullcirclemagazine.org/2021/08/27/full-circle-magazine-172/ #gnu #linux [17:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fullcirclemagazine.org | Full Circle Magazine #172 | Full Circle Magazine [17:35] techrights-news " #IBM always paid too many people for each sale. Pretty soon the cost went over the top. A well run, efficiently staffed channels team is very needed. The Partners became very large organizations, they soon diversified to other vendors as well." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cyspOuw#replies [17:41] techrights-news https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/wine-616-is-out-now-with-initial-hid-based-joystick-backend-work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155000#comment-30761 [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 6.16 is out now with initial HID-based joystick backend work | GamingOnLinux [17:41] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine [6.16] Announcement | Tux Machines [17:42] techrights-news Pts is part of the strongmen phenomenon/lineage; we've already remarked on the remarkable age of Baltic #patent officials (Pts only retired in his 80s) http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/potztausend/ #estonia #patents #epo #corruption [17:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Smoking Pts | Techrights [17:42] techrights-news Wine 6.16 is out now with initial HID-based joystick backend work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155000#comment-30761 [17:43] techrights-news #IBM is in a really bad state, even if the media fails to report on the matter; the video above (and post below, composed afterwards to accompany the video) takes stock of recent developments and what they mean to the future of the decreasingly big blue http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/ibm-alienating-geeks/ [17:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Cannot Possibly Recover by Attacking the Software Community and Alienating Geeks | Techrights [17:44] techrights-news Despite a disturbing mass-granting trend, wherein quality and legitimacy of patents may matter no more (its all about quantity, not quality), the courts are pushing back, both in Europe and in north America THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/swpats-crisis/ #Techrights #swpats #epo #uspto | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/swpats-crisis/ [17:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | About Half of the Supposed Growth in Patents is Abstract Stuff or Software-Related (Patents That Courts Would Quite Likely Reject) | Techrights [17:47] techrights-news Getting a #COVID19 test in US really isnt that easy, and especially if you want the free one. https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/08/28/getting-a-covid-test-in-america-really-isnt-that-easy-and-especially-if-you-want-the-free-one/ by DaemonFC of #techrights [17:47] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Getting a COVID test in America really isnt that easy, and especially if you want the free one. BaronHK's Rants [17:49] techrights-news #EndeavourOS 2021.08 is Here with a New ISO Release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154987#comment-30762 [17:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EndeavourOS: Our ISO-Next has arrived | Tux Machines [17:51] *mib_gxvpx3 (~05b43edb@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [17:52] DaemonFC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF2RYhNhBdw [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Unemployment Insurance History Of The World - YouTube [17:52] techrights-news " #Techrights rhetorically asks if #Microsoft was ever the first to market in anything. The answer, of course, to anyone paying attention, is no." https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2021/08/28/microsoft-and-innovation/ [17:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-baronhk.wordpress.com | Microsoft and innovation. BaronHK's Rants [17:56] *mib_gxvpx3 has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) [17:59] techrights-news #Microsoft Crises http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155015 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [17:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Crises | Tux Machines [17:59] *sears_hardware (~search_social@akqta89mfqm5k.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [18:02] *chunky (~chunky@kcmuc6rr58tti.irc) has joined #techrights [18:06] *wallacer has quit (connection closed) [18:07] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [18:16] techrights-news #OpenFrame another fine example of #openwashhing #proprietarySoftware https://www.prnewswire.com/in/news-releases/tmaxsoft-achieves-aws-mainframe-migration-technology-partner-status-895982585.html [18:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | TmaxSoft Achieves AWS Mainframe Migration Technology Partner Status [18:17] techrights-news #proprietarySofwtare #f5 https://threatpost.com/f5-critical-bug-system-takeover/168952/ [18:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-F5 Bug Could Lead to Complete System Takeover | Threatpost [18:18] techrights-news #proprietarySofwtare #f5 https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/vulnerability/360705/over-30-vulnerabilities-fixed-in-multiple-f5-products [18:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | Over 30 vulnerabilities fixed in multiple F5 products | IT PRO [18:20] techrights-news Using buzzworda and throwing tcp/ip things at stuff that doesn't need it https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/23/eu_device_security_regulations_comment_period/ [18:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | European Commission airs out new IoT device security draft law interested parties have a week to weigh in The Register [18:22] techrights-news #patent #cdc #patents #monopoly #vaccines https://writtendescription.blogspot.com/2021/08/how-does-cdcs-advisory-committee-on.html [18:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-writtendescription.blogspot.com | Written Description: How does the CDCs Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices impact innovation and access to COVID-19 vaccines? [18:23] techrights-news Still fighting who 'owns' life and nature through utterly ridiculous patent monopolies on CRISPR https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/toolgen-files-opposition-to-cvc-substantive-preliminary-motion-no-2-to-deny-priority-benefit.html [18:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: ToolGen Files Opposition to CVC Substantive Preliminary Motion No. 2 to Deny Priority Benefit [18:26] techrights-news "On August 27, 2021, #UnifiedPatents added a new PATROLL contest, with a $2,500 cash prize, seeking prior art on at least claim 1 of U.S. Patent 8,621,578." #swpats again: "demand letters to owners of websites that simply use #Captcha as a verification method" https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/8/27/2500-for-defenders-of-the-american-dream-prior-art [18:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | $2,500 for Defenders of the American Dream prior art Unified Patents [18:28] techrights-news "The panelists presented several case studies and discussed the current policy applied by the PTAB." But it's stacked by so-called #law firms and #lawyers instead of scientists https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2021/8/26/webinar-materials-fintiv-denials-in-light-of-itc-cases #ptab [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.unifiedpatents.com | Webinar Materials - Fintiv Denials in Light of ITC Cases Unified Patents [18:28] techrights-news #Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155016 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [18:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines [18:38] techrights-news "Highest areas of waste at #IBM #1 Marketing (might be #2 after recent axe) Next is Channels Third is Digital and Fourth is the Summit Program" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cyspOuw#replies [18:43] techrights-news Links 28/8/2021: This Week in KDE and Wine-Staging 6.16 THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/wine-staging-6-16/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/wine-staging-6-16/ [18:43] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/8/2021: This Week in KDE and Wine-Staging 6.16 | Techrights [18:51] *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights ● Aug 28 [19:05] AdmFubar looks like am$ figured out that user would switch to linux then put up with buying expensive hardware upgrades! [19:05] AdmFubar https://www.ghacks.net/2021/08/28/microsoft-changed-the-windows-11-system-requirements-and-released-an-updated-pc-health-check-tool/ [19:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Microsoft changed the Windows 11 System Requirements and released an updated PC Health Check tool - gHacks Tech News [19:07] AdmFubar https://hackaday.com/2021/08/28/who-owns-the-machine-anyway/ [19:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Who Owns The Machine Anyway? | Hackaday [19:10] techrights-ipfs-bot IPFS downstream, 60 mins: avg(k/sec) 20.36 IPFS upstream: avg(k/sec) 54.65 swarm size (avg): 265.61 [19:12] AdmFubar what a bunch of scammers at m$ [19:12] AdmFubar https://www.osnews.com/story/133872/microsoft-will-allow-users-to-install-windows-11-on-anything-but-you-wont-get-updates/ [19:12] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft will allow users to install Windows 11 on anything, but you wont get updates OSnews [19:13] AdmFubar https://www.osnews.com/story/133866/apple-just-declared-war-on-your-privacy/ [19:13] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple just declared war on your privacy OSnews [19:22] *DaemonFC has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 28 [20:29] *_inky (~inky@46.36.119.19) has joined #techrights [20:30] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [20:41] *DaemonFC (~DaemonFC@ch98337grrcmg.irc) has joined #techrights [20:42] techrights-news Email Encryption Made Easy for Gmail and Thunderbird Users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155017 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Email Encryption Made Easy for Gmail and Thunderbird Users | Tux Machines [20:42] techrights-news #Google #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155018 #Linux #TuxMachines [20:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines [20:44] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [20:47] *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:47] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: indeed [20:47] schestowitz-TR but the show their pain [20:47] schestowitz-TR trolls like mjg59_ helped them [20:47] schestowitz-TR impose control over vboot [20:50] techrights-news EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part VI "A Good Friend of #Estonia and a Steady Cooperation Partner THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/estonia-matti-and-martti/ #Techrights #europe #corruption #patents | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/estonia-matti-and-martti/ [20:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Expos: The Besieged Baltic States Part VI A Good Friend of Estonia and a Steady Cooperation Partner | Techrights [20:59] *wallacer has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) ● Aug 28 [21:00] *wallacer (~quassel@6bsu33ajs4zs4.irc) has joined #techrights [21:00] DaemonFC https://winworldpc.com/product/wordstar/20-for-windows [21:00] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winworldpc.com | WinWorld: WordStar 2.0 for Windows [21:00] DaemonFC I did some more looking around. Apparently, WordStar for Windows has nothing to do with the DOS program at all. [21:00] DaemonFC It never really gained any users. [21:01] DaemonFC https://winworldpc.com/product/wordstar/7 [21:01] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winworldpc.com | WinWorld: WordStar 7 [21:01] DaemonFC Version 7 was the last release for DOS. George R.R. Martin uses version 4, specifically because he didn't want a spell check or a thesaurus. [21:03] techrights-news A Prominent, Longtime Dell Linux Engineer Recently Joined AMD's Linux Team - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Dell-Mario-On-AMD-Linux-Team #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/28/#latest [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Prominent, Longtime Dell Linux Engineer Recently Joined AMD's Linux Team - Phoronix [21:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts [21:03] DaemonFC Looks like those got added in version 5.5, and version 5 added a drop down menu that you could use with a mouse. [21:04] techrights-news #Intel Lands Initial Code For Mesh Shaders Within #Mesa - Phoronix https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesh-Shaders-Mesa-Merged #Kernel #Linux [21:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Lands Initial Code For Mesh Shaders Within Mesa - Phoronix [21:05] techrights-news #Linux at 30: How a students hobby became a key component in the business IT stack | TechRadar https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/linux-at-30-how-a-students-hobby-became-a-key-component-in-the-business-it-stack #techradar -- like the rest of the media -- leaves out http://techrights.org/2021/08/25/proprietary-linux-anniversary/ [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux at 30: How a students hobby became a key component in the business IT stack | TechRadar [21:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux-Libres Alex Oliva: Thank You, Linus! | Techrights [21:06] techrights-news PostgreSQL: set_user 2.0.1 released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/set_user-201-released-2279/ #postgresql #postgres #psql [21:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: set_user 2.0.1 released [21:08] techrights-news Linux Turns 30 - 9 Things You Might Not Know About Linux https://www.androidauthority.com/newsletters/gary-explains-newsletter-aug-26-2021/ also know it was #ProprietarySoftware 30 years ago: t http://techrights.org/2021/08/25/proprietary-linux-anniversary/ [21:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.androidauthority.com | Gary Explains: Linux turns 30, Tesla's D1 chip, Power over Ethernet & more! - Android Authority [21:10] techrights-news Even according to #redhat (under #ibm control now), #linux #kernel only became very popular and widespread because of #gnu [21:14] techrights-news Debian Linux with GNOME Now Runs On Apples M1 Mac Mini http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154786#comment-30793 [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: M1/Asahi, Reiser4/Reiser5, and DG2 | Tux Machines [21:14] techrights-news Todays #HowTos | #UNIX http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155019 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:14] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines [21:16] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [21:17] AdmFubar https://torrentfreak.com/microsoft-envisions-a-blockchain-based-bounty-system-to-catch-pirates-210815/ [21:17] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Envisions a Blockchain-Based Bounty System to Catch Pirates * TorrentFreak [21:19] schestowitz-TR yes, discussed here last week [21:19] schestowitz-TR they just patent lots of software [21:19] schestowitz-TR even junk [21:20] techrights-news A closer look at how Casino Martti (above) set the stage for an unprecedented #EPO dictatorship with Frenchmen #BenotBattistelli and #AntnioCampinos in an era of quality collapse THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/estonia-matti-and-martti/ #Techrights | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/estonia-matti-and-martti/ [21:21] techrights-news "Thanks to all who've made #Debconf 21 such a good place to be." http://flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com/2021/08/if-you-do-it-twice-its-tradition-says.html #debian #gnu #linux #freesw [21:22] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flosslinuxblog.blogspot.com | FLOSSLinux: "If you do it twice, it's tradition" - says nattie [21:24] techrights-news New PCI IDs on #AMD #Linux #graphics driver point to RDNA 2 refresh | #KitGuru https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/joao-silva/new-pci-ids-on-amd-linux-graphics-driver-point-to-rdna-2-refresh/ [21:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kitguru.net | New PCI IDs on AMD Linux graphics driver point to RDNA 2 refresh | KitGuru [21:25] techrights-news Veloren Rolling New Characters & Multiplayer Mayhem - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RaeuieQJiqc #video #invidious #Veloren #freesw [21:25] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | VelorenRolling New Characters & Multiplayer Mayhem - Invidious [21:27] techrights-news #Box64 : Witness the Birth of the ARM #Gaming Scene - Boiling Steam https://boilingsteam.com/box64-witness-the-birth-of-the-arm-gaming-scene/ #boilingsteam [21:27] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Box64: Witness the Birth of the ARM Gaming Scene - Boiling Steam [21:29] techrights-news "The OpenEmbedded "oe" project is intertwined with #EasyOS "easy", so I often post OpenEmbedded news to the "easy" category." https://bkhome.org/news/202108/openembedded-project-20210828-uploaded.html https://bkhome.org/news/202108/statically-linked-packages-with-musl-in-openembedded.html [21:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | OpenEmbedded project 20210828 uploaded [21:29] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | Statically linked packages with musl in OpenEmbedded [21:36] techrights-news Help us test next #ScummVM version https://www.scummvm.org/news/20210828/ [21:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scummvm.org | ScummVM :: Home [21:37] *psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) [21:42] techrights-news Top new features of GNOME 41 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155020 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top new features of GNOME 41 | Tux Machines [21:44] techrights-news "Mastering" is not a racist term https://www.fosslinux.com/48117/kali-linux-sources-list-file-usage.htm [21:44] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | Mastering the Kali Linux sources.list file usage | FOSS Linux [21:44] *psydroid2 (~psydroid@cqggrmwgu7gji.irc) has joined #techrights [21:46] techrights-news #IBM DOES NOT get to decide for us which words are racist. I mean, bloody hell, of all companies YOU, IBM??? http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights [21:46] techrights-news #Games: Veloren, Box64, ScummVM and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155021 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:46] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Veloren, Box64, ScummVM and More | Tux Machines [21:50] techrights-news #Intel and #AMD Work on Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155022 #Linux #TuxMachines [21:50] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Intel and AMD Work on Linux | Tux Machines [21:52] techrights-news #Zorin OS 16 Is Here: Check Out Whats New http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155024 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Zorin OS 16 Is Here: Check Out Whats New | Tux Machines [21:52] techrights-news #Debian: EasyOS/OpenEmbedded, Debconf 21 Closes, and Anton Gladkys Report http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155023 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:52] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Debian: EasyOS/OpenEmbedded, Debconf 21 Closes, and Anton Gladky's Report | Tux Machines [21:53] techrights-news #Kalendar alpha running on #Pinephone (devlog 12) https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/0328c630-82e4-4feb-85d6-a16ac14c2cb6 #kde [21:53] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Kalendar alpha running on Pinephone (devlog 12) - Kockatoo Tube [21:54] AdmFubar https://stackoverflow.blog/2021/08/06/podcast-364-mark-porter-mongodb-database/ [21:54] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.blog | Podcast 364: What's the blast radius when your database goes down? - Stack Overflow Blog [21:56] techrights-news A Hoppy Week In #Tok https://blog.blackquill.cc/a-hoppy-week-in-tok #kde #gnu #linux #freesw [21:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.blackquill.cc | A Hoppy Week In Tok Janet's Shenanigans [21:57] AdmFubar we have it all here in the states [21:57] AdmFubar https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/07/30/oak-mites-bite-cicadas-dc/ [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Oak-mite bites may be cicadas latest gift to D.C. region - The Washington Post [21:57] techrights-news #BorgBackup https://cullmann.io/posts/borg-backup/ #freesw [21:57] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cullmann.io | BorgBackup - Ignorance is bliss... [21:58] techrights-news #Akademy 2021 Interview: In Conversation with Patricia Aas https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/4afe5fb4-71bf-49c4-ab40-047e22d2b709 #kde [21:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tube.kockatoo.org | Akademy 2021 Interview: In Conversation with Patricia Aas - Kockatoo Tube [21:59] techrights-news hecking events and ticking todos on your #Pinephone Kalendar devlog 12 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155025 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [21:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Checking events and ticking todos on your Pinephone Kalendar devlog 12 | Tux Machines ● Aug 28 [22:03] AdmFubar https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/24/2014224&from=rss [22:03] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Samsung Kills the Cameras on the Galaxy Z Fold 3 If You Unlock the Bootloader - SoylentNews [22:04] techrights-news "Remote" learning useless? https://news.gsu.edu/2021/08/26/study-finds-students-spend-less-than-half-their-normal-classroom-time-learning-virtually-during-pandemic/ [22:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.gsu.edu | Study Finds Students Spend Less than Half Their Normal Classroom Time Learning Virtually During Pandemic - Georgia State University News - Andrew Young School of Policy Studies, Coronavirus Research, Research, University Research [22:05] techrights-news #ikea went with a company of criminals and convicted monopoly abusers. It pays the price though. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/25/bork/ #microsoft #windows [22:05] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Lost in IKEA? So, it seems, is Windows The Register [22:08] techrights-news Decrease in #patenting can be a positive thing. Unless you are a #patent #litigation profiteer... like those who fund this #propagandamill https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t98j9vnj0fzc/four-graphs-on-20-years-of-uk-patent-filing [22:08] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Four graphs on 20 years of UK patent filing | Managing Intellectual Property [22:16] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210825/09433447431/states-wouldnt-be-pushing-inconsistent-tech-laws-if-congress-wasnt-so-corrupt.shtml [22:16] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-States Wouldn't Be Pushing Inconsistent Tech Laws If Congress Wasn't So Corrupt | Techdirt [22:18] AdmFubar https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210824/07565547420/californias-open-access-fiber-broadband-plan-is-making-telecom-giants-like-att-nervous.shtml [22:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California's 'Open Access' Fiber Broadband Plan Is Making Telecom Giants Like AT&T Nervous | Techdirt [22:19] techrights-news Another form of attack on #softwarefreedom ... bricking things BY INTENTION just to punish you https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=21/08/24/2014224&from=rss [22:21] techrights-news "Apple's iPhone, Google's Android and Microsoft's Windows and even Samsung TVs, which are turned into covert microphones." #samsung threatens to brick 'your' stuff (that you bought) if you try to obstruct this https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/ [22:21] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wikileaks.org | Vault7 - Home [22:21] schestowitz-TR AdmFubar: ^^ [22:26] techrights-news Oh, FFS. #TechCrunch says in headline "Bill Gates offers direction, not solutions"... No, he offers neither and maybe you should quit this #reputationLaundering for a thieving monster. Does he pay you TOO? http://techrights.org/2021/07/05/bill-gates-pays-twitter/ [22:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Reality is Warped When You Pay for Perception Management (or: Bill Gates Pays Twitter for Propaganda) | Techrights [22:30] AdmFubar wait till that vulnerability gets exploited and your tv is bricked by whoever... [22:31] techrights-news Can't believe #seaworld is still a thing (in the news). They should have shut down or been shut down decades ago. When I was 16 I was foolish enough to go there... [22:33] techrights-news The hilarity: #microsoft #propaganda networks like #Redmondmag.com trying to portray Microsoft's Chrome knockoff as "innovative"... because QUIC. Wait, who actually came up with it again? [22:34] AdmFubar https://bsdly.blogspot.com/2021/08/recent-and-not-so-recent-changes-in.html [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bsdly.blogspot.com | That grumpy BSD guy: Recent and not so recent changes in OpenBSD that make life better (and may turn up elsewhere too) [22:34] techrights-news #Sudoedit Is The Most Useful Linux Command - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Njsth_VeSxY I learned it the hard way 2 years ago (after I had broken a file and got locked out) [22:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Sudoedit Is The Most Useful Linux Command - Invidious [22:35] DaemonFC https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20210820/17143847397/copyright-scammers-getting-more-sophisticated-just-as-us-is-about-to-make-it-easier-them.shtml [22:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Copyright Scammers Getting More Sophisticated, Just As The US Is About To Make It Easier For Them | Techdirt [22:35] schestowitz [22:30] wait till that vulnerability gets exploited and your tv is bricked by whoever... [22:35] schestowitz who said this had not happened already? [22:35] DaemonFC Copyright alerts now use a ransomware tactic to get people to pay up or at least identify themselves in order to be sued. [22:36] schestowitz yeah, I think the case for Free software is being MADE FOR US [22:36] schestowitz as vendors become more aggressive [22:36] schestowitz we just need to explain why this is happening a [22:36] schestowitz then introduce the alternative [22:36] schestowitz not "chromebook versus Windows" [22:36] schestowitz or "Mac vs PC" [sic] [22:36] schestowitz on many battlefronts, esp. in non-US allies, we already made gains [22:37] schestowitz they cannot afford to concede control over their systems [22:37] schestowitz as activelow likes to point out [22:38] schestowitz DaemonFC: someone I don't know, in Twitter, said we were free software "elitists" [22:38] schestowitz how arrogant of us... not wanting our machines controlled by Apple, Microsoft etc. [22:38] schestowitz like those "elitist" vegetarians [22:38] schestowitz how dare they NOT kill animals [22:38] schestowitz ant "elitist" antiwar activtsts [22:39] DaemonFC I don't really care what they do. [22:39] schestowitz so arrogant they OPPOSE killing people [22:39] DaemonFC Yeah, someone on Facebook said Biden should just nuke Afghanistan. [22:39] schestowitz and then? [22:39] schestowitz what after that? [22:39] DaemonFC And not just the remote mountain regions where it would be mainly Taliban, but cities. [22:40] schestowitz nukes works better in plains [22:40] schestowitz like paris or london [22:40] DaemonFC THey said, "Like Hiroshima and Nagasaki .". [22:40] DaemonFC "You just kill more of them and then you get respect." [22:40] schestowitz you don't want to detonate those on a mountain top, you would not get your "money's worth" [22:41] schestowitz DaemonFC: haha, us got respect from japan? [22:41] DaemonFC The US should have behaved more like the Soviets. [22:41] DaemonFC Destroying the drug trade. [22:41] schestowitz or from almost 80 years of people bringing that up? [22:41] schestowitz US: the only nation to nuke nations ever... TWICE even [22:41] DaemonFC Nobody respected that. They were starving to death at the time. [22:41] DaemonFC They were in no position to continue fighting. [22:42] DaemonFC It was a warning to the Soviets that we had nukes and we'd be willing to use them. [22:42] schestowitz wait,no... [22:42] schestowitz this is 1945 [22:42] schestowitz US were not fighting the Soviets [22:42] schestowitz now you make shit up [22:43] schestowitz the son of IBM founder, Watson Jr., even flew to Russia to send them material support [22:43] schestowitz while they fought the nazis [22:43] schestowitz Korea war, the decade which followed, the US pondered nuking the China-N Korea borker [22:43] schestowitz back then just "Korea" [22:44] schestowitz but it was deterrence against China [22:44] schestowitz which did not yet have nuked [22:44] schestowitz *nukes [22:44] schestowitz US Presidents... [22:44] schestowitz either they pull out their dicks or... just pull out [22:44] schestowitz Korea [22:45] schestowitz unfinished job [22:45] schestowitz Vietnam [22:45] schestowitz lost [22:45] schestowitz Afghanistan [22:45] schestowitz also lost [22:45] schestowitz "we're good though... well, good at dropping and manufacturing more and more bombs" [22:45] schestowitz not GOOD as in good [22:50] schestowitz DaemonFC: can you read 2 paras with me? [22:50] schestowitz they go with a 45-min video [22:52] DaemonFC US were not fighting the Soviets [22:53] DaemonFC The US never really liked the Soviets, it just needed their cooperation for the war effort. [22:53] schestowitz-TR yeah [22:53] DaemonFC It was obvious that the Cold War was coming before World War II ended. [22:54] schestowitz-TR "we have always been at war with eurasia.." [22:54] DaemonFC If Hitler hadn't tried to open a war in the Soviet Union, things would have ended better for Germany. [22:55] DaemonFC But even though he did, it could have been executed better. [22:55] schestowitz-TR sooner or later Stalin would have have come out [22:55] DaemonFC Bypassing almost the whole country to capture Moscow before the winter was obvious. [22:55] schestowitz-TR they had agreements before [22:55] DaemonFC Hitler was no military genius. [22:55] schestowitz-TR until Barbarossa I think [22:55] schestowitz-TR The Molotov pact split eastern Europe among them [22:56] DaemonFC You only stop to engage the enemy units in the area and then press on once you know they won't follow you. [22:56] schestowitz-TR Hitler was artillery operator with a big mouth [22:56] DaemonFC Hitler wasted his time/good weather months shelling empty and ruined cities. [22:57] DaemonFC No strategic value at all. [22:57] schestowitz-TR speaking of which [22:58] schestowitz-TR eastern europe and ussr [22:58] DaemonFC More U-Boats and a different strategy on the Eastern front. [22:58] DaemonFC The war could have been won. [22:58] schestowitz-TR can you read this? [22:58] DaemonFC Yeah [22:58] schestowitz it is about estonia http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/stacking-the-deck-epo/ [22:58] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Convicted Fraudster in Charge of Patent Delegations From Four Nations? | Techrights [22:58] DaemonFC They had almost enough U-Boats to completely paralyze shipping lanes. [22:58] DaemonFC But not quite enough. [22:59] DaemonFC They also spread them too thin and took heavy losses that were not worth what they were sinking in the Gulf of Mexico and the Great Lakes regions. ● Aug 28 [23:01] DaemonFC "WTO and WIPO dont exactly pretend otherwise." [23:01] DaemonFC Not good for Americans. [23:01] *sears_hardware has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:01] DaemonFC We stupidly pay many times more for prescription drugs than most countries due to insane pricing policies that they bought and paid for. [23:01] DaemonFC Bribery is an investment. [23:02] DaemonFC Very often the only people who care that it's a crime are rival politicians trying to get each other out of their way. [23:03] DaemonFC They've managed to make most people here so stupid that they not only don't care that it's killing them, they actively defend it as "anything else is communism". [23:03] *rtn0 (~a@ip68-99-102-129.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #techrights [23:03] *rtn0 (~a@ip68-99-102-129.hr.hr.cox.net) has left #techrights ( ) [23:04] *rtn0 (~a@ip68-99-102-129.hr.hr.cox.net) has joined #techrights [23:04] rtn0 hi all [23:04] rtn0 pls explain everything [23:04] schestowitz-TR yeah [23:04] rtn0 where does RMS stand on all of this? [23:04] rtn0 and GNU, etc.? [23:06] techrights-news Convicted Fraudster in Charge of Patent Delegations From Four Nations? THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/08/28/stacking-the-deck-epo/ #Techrights #estonia #finland #epo #fraud | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/28/stacking-the-deck-epo/ [23:09] rtn0 hello? anyone? [23:09] rtn0 who is lee? what is oftc? [23:09] Guest91 rtn0: Hi. It's Roy. I see you're in a channel that's not ours. [23:09] Guest91 We actually moved to #techrights at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it) which is the correct channel to use). http://techrights.org/2021/06/25/irc-clarity/ [23:09] *psydroid_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:11] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [23:13] *immibis has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [23:13] *rtn0 (~a@j24vhwbwupt78.irc) has joined #techrights [23:13] rtn0 hi all! [23:13] schestowitz-TR hi! [23:13] schestowitz-TR nice to meet you [23:14] schestowitz-TR you asked where RMS stands on.. freenode? [23:14] schestowitz-TR lee/otfc you mentioned, but some context was absent [23:15] *asusbox has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [23:15] *asusbox (~rianne@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights [23:16] cow_2001 In the grimdark future of network fracturing, each IRC channel is running on its own dedicated IRC network. [23:16] cow_2001 maybe it is not so grimdark [23:16] cow_2001 just a bit of an hassle [23:19] techrights-news Space garbage in orbit is rampant and a growing risk. #drones are the same in airspace. https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/23/canadian_drone_strike/ [23:19] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Cop drone crashes into flight instructor's airplane The Register [23:20] techrights-news #microsoft #windows #ProprietarySoftware https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/23/security_in_brief/ [23:20] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Razer ponders how to fix installer that grants admin powers if you plug in a mouse The Register [23:22] techrights-news This is a very, very exceptionally malicious 'law' firm that pushes #softwarepatents in defiance of the #law https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/cases/nintendo-and-bardehle-defend-wii-patent/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_Europe [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Nintendo and Bardehle defend Wii patent for second time - JUVE Patent [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in Europe - Techrights [23:23] techrights-news oday in #Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/155026 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines [23:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines [23:25] techrights-news It looks like gemini:// at #techrights might even exceed a quarter million page requests this month alone. It's exciting to see the #www 'replaced' to some extent by something so much cleaner and thus better (safer, lighter, no monopolies, #freesw ONLY) [23:26] *XRevan86 didn't see RMS ever make an explicit statement on the topic. [23:26] techrights-news We've worked very hard (extra work, coding) to make sure gemini:// users of #techrights get an experience on par with those of #www ... down to the level of IRC, wiki, linking etc. [23:26] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: he did [23:26] schestowitz-TR to me [23:26] schestowitz-TR he wanted self-hosted [23:26] schestowitz-TR LC was an impulsive short-term compromise [23:27] XRevan86 schestowitz: It wasn't exactly impulsive though. [23:28] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2021/05/31/self-hosting-self-governing-irc/ [23:28] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Freedom First: Towards Self-Hosting and Federating/Communicating Across IRC Networks | Techrights [23:29] XRevan86 schestowitz: And there was an effort to get self-hosted IRC going, but that was scrapped as too labour intensive management-wise. [23:30] XRevan86 "where RMS stands on.. freenode?" one thing is definite: staying was not an option. [23:31] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: yes, that's what happened [23:31] rtn0 cow_2001: hi cow_2001 [23:32] *rtn0 connects to irc.cow_2001.net 6667 [23:32] rtn0 O_O [23:32] rtn0 :p [23:33] schestowitz https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cyspOuw [23:33] *rtn0 disconnects.... ewww cowpr0nz on thr! :p [23:33] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Channels just got too big! - post regarding IBM layoffs [23:33] schestowitz not IRC channels... [23:34] techrights-news "In 1983 I announced the plan to develop a complete free operating system called GNU. The system that millions of people use, and often refer to as Linux, is a variant of the GNU system." http://techrights.org/2010/01/23/rms-freedom-campaigner/ [23:34] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman: Freedom Campaigner | Techrights [23:35] rtn0 it should not come as a surprise that a legit pry verse sea ad vow casey group would want its own server [23:35] techrights-news Richard Stallman: Youre Gotta Be Willing to Make a Sacrifice THgiHT http://techrights.org/2021/03/29/rms-on-activism-and-protests/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW #RMS | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/03/29/rms-on-activism-and-protests/ [23:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Richard Stallman: Youre Gotta Be Willing to Make a Sacrifice | Techrights [23:36] rtn0 should i trust lee? is he a 5nup3? [23:36] rtn0 if he is, then why did techrights seem to support him and interview him? [23:36] rtn0 and why do they host a file which contains "his side of the story"? [23:38] techrights-news This is an utter lie and false advertising by lawyers; there's no UPC, such a system is untenable, but they hope that endless repetition of falsehoods will bring some momentum https://solicitorsjournal.com/sjarticle/Unitary%20patents%20101 #teamUPC #unitarypatent @zoobab [23:38] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solicitorsjournal.com | Solicitors Journal - Unitary patents 101 [23:39] rtn0 well do the pry vase sea advocates advocate against any particular networks as being shady? [23:40] techrights-news We need more #science , not more courts, more #lawyers and more judges to tax actual scientists https://www.juve-patent.com/news-and-stories/people-and-business/berenice-thom-new-presiding-judge-regional-court-dusseldorf/ #Dsseldorf #de #germany http://techrights.org/2021/04/16/bundestagate-part-20/ [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.juve-patent.com | Brnice Thom is new presiding judge at Regional Court Dsseldorf - JUVE Patent [23:40] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPOLeaks on Misleading the Bundestag Part 20: Taking Stock | Techrights [23:40] rtn0 either cuz they 1. snup3 or 2. are controlling (pushing age jinn doughs, narratives, sin sore ship, etc.)? [23:41] schestowitz-TR censorship and snooping? [23:41] XRevan86 rtn0: This question will surface a lot of Opinions. [23:41] rtn0 yes [23:41] schestowitz-TR well, all networks do maintain some level of oversight and remove spam [23:41] schestowitz-TR the question is, how much and when? [23:41] rtn0 i mean donkeys and elephants and poly ticks and sjws and bullshit like that. [23:41] rtn0 there are many genders! you are banned for not agreeing! [23:41] rtn0 that type of bullshit? [23:42] rtn0 911 really happened and was from outside! you are banned for disagreeing! etc. [23:42] techrights-news Interesting that #microsoft #patent chief has left. Several departures in recent years in the patent (so-called 'IP' is what they call it) department... I guess they're failing there too [23:42] rtn0 if somebody is repeatedly offtopic, and/or abusive, they should be banned. [23:42] XRevan86 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_type_of_grammatical_genders#More_than_three_grammatical_genders [23:42] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of languages by type of grammatical genders - Wikipedia [23:43] XRevan86 Some languages have got a very big lot of genders. [23:43] rtn0 but if i say the sun does not exist and the sky is green, i should not be banned. [23:43] rtn0 if i say 1 + 1 = 3, i should not be banned. [23:43] rtn0 mocked, yes. banned no. [23:43] schestowitz-TR rtn0: we have 15 channels here at the moment [23:43] rtn0 put in a straight jacket? no. [23:43] schestowitz-TR so they're split by topics [23:43] rtn0 punished? no. [23:44] schestowitz-TR in #techrights we focus on patent policy, tech, that kind of stuff [23:44] schestowitz-TR people who make direct threats to other people can be banned [23:44] XRevan86 rtn0: All that stuff is unlikely to get you k-lined. [23:44] schestowitz-TR that's just our sole rule since around 2009 [23:45] rtn0 okay.... like i like 8chan, despite its damn spammy nature cuz it's anything goes... the downside is that they enforce NO type of qulaity control whatsoever. they allow 100% pure true spamming and trolling.... even outright obv. bot flooding and do nothing about it. [23:45] schestowitz-TR when people started bullying and threatening... actually, just one person did tha [23:45] schestowitz-TR rtn0: spam gets blocked [23:46] schestowitz-TR spam comments are deleted [23:46] schestowitz-TR no point having v1agra spam beneath blog posts [23:46] rtn0 to me, you can say whatever you want, to an extent cuz its just letter on the screen. but i get mad over doxxing, threats, swatting, spamming, trolling, repeatedly non-stop abusive language that contributes nothing whatsoever to the discussion, obv. age jinn doughs being pushed and forcing ppl to agree, etc. [23:47] rtn0 letters* [23:47] rtn0 capricious/pointless/random/abusive/arbitrary/favortism bans [23:47] rtn0 etc. [23:47] rtn0 i had to leave some of my favorite channels cuz of the latter [23:47] schestowitz-TR anyway... if you run /list [23:47] XRevan86 rtn0: freenode had a bit of a problem in that regard, but I don't know what's the current situation there. And it's not important anyway. [23:47] schestowitz-TR you will see we have other channels more suitable for that [23:48] schestowitz-TR XRevan86: there is no freedom [23:48] schestowitz-TR freenode I mean [23:48] schestowitz-TR and no freedom there [23:48] rtn0 they wouldn't ban ppl that insulted me and my dead family members, but as soon as i "fired back" so to speak, verbally, we *both* got banned. wtf? did the op expect me to just sit idly by and be insulted and not respond? [23:48] schestowitz-TR it's just a domain now [23:48] rtn0 lol yeah right [23:48] XRevan86 I used the old name since I referred to the time when it was still called that. [23:48] schestowitz-TR and a redirection for the protocol/port that actually maters [23:49] XRevan86 Like June/July [23:49] schestowitz-TR for http/s it's just some cloudflare cdn thing [23:49] rtn0 i heard they changed the name to something else? [23:49] XRevan86 albeit that can be insulting to the pre-May freenode [23:50] schestowitz-TR freenode did FAR more censorship after lee took over... than even before [23:50] XRevan86 rtn0: It's now the digital territory of the Joseon Empire* [23:50] rtn0 like some asian thing? [23:50] rtn0 hmmm [23:50] schestowitz-TR culling whole user groups, channels, then shutting people out for not signing up or registering with very strict criteria for email address [23:50] rtn0 so it's true then? he's really "royalty"? [23:50] XRevan86 * the real Joseon Empire was succeeded by ROK and DPRK [23:51] rtn0 CrystalMath mentioned that [23:51] schestowitz-TR crown prince of PERSIA [23:51] XRevan86 rtn0: It's a "yea but actually nay" kind of thing. [23:51] rtn0 huh? what does korea have to do with persia?> [23:51] schestowitz-TR mincrt is the crown prince of the austria-hungary empire [23:52] rtn0 who is mincrt? [23:52] XRevan86 rtn0: He's one of the pretenders to a throne of a defunct monarchy. [23:52] schestowitz-TR I mistyped [23:52] schestowitz-TR he's offline [23:52] XRevan86 So it's a "let's imagine that the throne is still there" kind of thing. [23:52] gustaf lol [23:52] gustaf pointless [23:52] rtn0 schestowitz-TR: lol. oh... are you being sarcastic, comparing lee to him? [23:53] rtn0 schestowitz-TR: if so, i guess it r/whoooshed over my head. :p [23:53] rtn0 im dumb [23:53] schestowitz-TR lee did not even know anything about this joseon thing until he was an adult [23:53] schestowitz-TR someone talked to him about it [23:53] schestowitz-TR so don't fancy an image of some rich kids with "royal" parents in exile [23:53] schestowitz-TR too much hard drugs and fantasies [23:54] rtn0 "< schestowitz-TR> so don't fancy an image of some rich kids with "royal" parents in exile" <- wudyamean? that's exactly what he is, isn't he? [23:54] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: he wasn't on the direct line of succession, Yi Soek transferred the title to him, that's why [23:54] *schestowitz-TR wonders why micer is offline... very atypical in decade+ knowing him in IRC [23:54] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: Yi Soek was told about it since he was a kid [23:55] XRevan86 Anyway, the dynasty and "the throne" is inherently a heritage thing or something, but Lee treats it like it has some geopolitical power. [23:55] CrystalMath his grandfather was the actual Emperor Gojong [23:56] schestowitz-TR whose? Yi Soek? [23:56] rtn0 money gives you power. it gives you the power to buy servers, gather data, and sell it to "them" <_< >_> [23:56] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: yes [23:56] schestowitz-TR so Yi Soek might have some claims to 'fame' by association [23:56] schestowitz-TR lee is just the "holder"... or some toilet paper [23:57] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: want me to sell you the trademark on some company that ceased to exist in 1921? [23:58] rtn0 im still new to linux. only been using it for over a year and a half. :p im a complete noobie. "what does this button do?" [23:58] schestowitz-TR maybe some geezer 110+ years in age will still remember the brand and buy stuff from you, CrystalMath [23:58] schestowitz-TR rtn0: which distro did you choose? [23:58] rtn0 debian [23:58] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: a friend of mine literally managed to buy the name Infocom [23:58] rtn0 deb 9 [23:58] schestowitz-TR same here [23:58] CrystalMath Activision lost it due to disuse [23:58] schestowitz-TR debian 10 [23:58] schestowitz-TR my wife uses debian 10 too [23:58] schestowitz-TR we shared the same ISO [23:59] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: so that means, if i create an interactive fiction / text adventure game, i could actually get Infocom to publish it! [23:59] CrystalMath but i think you may be too young to know Infocom :P [23:59] XRevan86 Another problem with this Joseon thing is that it exposes that Joseon the IRC network has a very direct connection to Andrew Lee and will bend under him every whim. [23:59] schestowitz-TR CrystalMath: what is infocom? sounds made u :-) [23:59] schestowitz-TR *up [23:59] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: no they used to make text adventure games in the late 70s, early 80s [23:59] CrystalMath schestowitz-TR: a famous one is Zork