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schestowitz | one large text file per day might do | Oct 28 00:00 |
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schestowitz | like a daily text-only digest | Oct 28 00:00 |
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schestowitz | Ariadne: ping.. | Oct 28 00:07 |
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schestowitz | if it works ok, techrights.org/txt will fetch a daily bulletin | Oct 28 00:17 |
schestowitz | and there will be an archive as well | Oct 28 00:17 |
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schestowitz | ok, this is a test | Oct 28 00:34 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt | Oct 28 00:34 |
schestowitz | generated from script | Oct 28 00:35 |
schestowitz | also uploaded by it, past midnight | Oct 28 00:35 |
schestowitz | it will rotate each day | Oct 28 00:35 |
schestowitz | and just needs curl/wget to put in one's text editor | Oct 28 00:35 |
schestowitz | no need for browser | Oct 28 00:35 |
schestowitz | now... to get a list of all the daily articles automatically, maybe I can extract these from rss | Oct 28 00:36 |
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schestowitz | ok, done | Oct 28 01:10 |
schestowitz | now putting it all together | Oct 28 01:10 |
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MinceR | (no audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/772e6c808921a68e.mp4 | Oct 28 01:15 |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt-archives/ | Oct 28 01:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /txt-archives | Oct 28 01:38 | |
schestowitz | this is auto-generated | Oct 28 01:38 |
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schestowitz | #Android Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143734 | Oct 28 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 28 01:40 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 01:40 |
schestowitz | [Meme] Torvalds Assimilated ⢠ðð´ð²ð·ðð¸ð¶ð·ðð â http://techrights.org/2020/10/27/torvalds-assimilated/ | Oct 28 01:40 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 01:40 |
schestowitz | Privacy-focused smartphone runs LineageOS or Ubuntu Touch | Oct 28 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Torvalds Assimilated | Techrights | Oct 28 01:40 | |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143705#comment-26896 | Oct 28 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pro1 X Smartphone to Ship with Android, Lineage OS, or Ubuntu Touch | Tux Machines | Oct 28 01:40 | |
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schestowitz | Ubuntu 20.10 Delivers Linux Desktop on Raspberry Pi http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143510#comment-26895 | Oct 28 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ubuntu 20.10 Arrives Today! Here are 11 New Features in Ubuntu 20.10 Groovy Gorilla | Tux Machines | Oct 28 01:40 | |
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schestowitz | 3.1 pound System76 Galago Pro Linux laptop with Intel Tiger Lake coming soon ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143733 | Oct 28 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 3.1 pound System76 Galago Pro Linux laptop with Intel Tiger Lake coming soon | Tux Machines | Oct 28 01:40 | |
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schestowitz | NASA ROSES-20 Amendment 64: Release of Final text of E.8 Supplemental Open Source Software Awards ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143732 | Oct 28 01:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NASA ROSES-20 Amendment 64: Release of Final text of E.8 Supplemental Open Source Software Awards | Tux Machines | Oct 28 01:40 | |
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schestowitz | maybe the next stage would be to serve over Gopher or BBS | Oct 28 01:54 |
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schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Links 28/10/2020: FreeBSD 12.2, NixOS 20.09 and WordPress 5.6 Beta 2 http://techrights.org/2020/10/27/nixos-20-09/ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Today in #Techrights ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143740 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Bcachefs Linux File-System Sent Out For Review With Exciting Feature Progress ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143739 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143738 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | WordPress 5.6 Second Beta and WordPress Survey ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143737 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | FreeBSD 12.2 ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143736 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Games: Stadia, Graveyard Keeper and Wildermyth ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143735 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Links 28/10/2020: FreeBSD 12.2, NixOS 20.09 and WordPress 5.6 Beta 2 http://techrights.org/2020/10/27/nixos-20-09/ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Today in #Techrights ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143740 | Oct 28 03:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/10/2020: FreeBSD 12.2, NixOS 20.09 and WordPress 5.6 Beta 2 | Techrights | Oct 28 03:50 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Oct 28 03:50 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bcachefs Linux File-System Sent Out For Review With Exciting Feature Progress | Tux Machines | Oct 28 03:50 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 28 03:50 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.6 Second Beta and WordPress Survey | Tux Machines | Oct 28 03:50 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 12.2 | Tux Machines | Oct 28 03:50 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Stadia, Graveyard Keeper and Wildermyth | Tux Machines | Oct 28 03:50 | |
schestowitz | Bcachefs Linux File-System Sent Out For Review With Exciting Feature Progress ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143739 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143738 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | WordPress 5.6 Second Beta and WordPress Survey ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143737 | Oct 28 03:50 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:51 |
schestowitz | FreeBSD 12.2 ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143736 | Oct 28 03:51 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:51 |
schestowitz | Games: Stadia, Graveyard Keeper and Wildermyth ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143735 | Oct 28 03:51 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 03:51 |
_I3^RELATIVISM | slow down on the spam schestowitz | Oct 28 03:51 |
_I3^RELATIVISM | that isinsanity | Oct 28 03:51 |
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MinceR | blasphemy? | Oct 28 03:55 |
MinceR | madness? | Oct 28 03:55 |
MinceR | no... this is SPARTA! | Oct 28 03:55 |
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schestowitz | [03:51] <_I3^RELATIVISM> that isinsanity | Oct 28 08:01 |
schestowitz | That's what I did while viera was down until Ariadne can restore it | Oct 28 08:01 |
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schestowitz | #PopOS 20.10 ( #Ubuntu Based) Released and Available for download http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143574#comment-26900 #gnu #linux | Oct 28 08:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | What’s New in Pop!_OS 20.10 | Tux Machines | Oct 28 08:38 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 08:38 |
schestowitz | Torvalds says no need to name successor as that will take care of itself ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143741 | Oct 28 08:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Torvalds says no need to name successor as that will take care of itself | Tux Machines | Oct 28 08:39 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 08:39 |
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schestowitz | Ariadne: the bot never recovered from the netsplit. Sorry to be a bother... | Oct 28 10:12 |
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schestowitz | Making Linux More Like Windows ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143746 | Oct 28 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Making Linux More Like Windows | Tux Machines | Oct 28 11:10 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 11:10 |
schestowitz | Todayâs #HowTos | #UNIX ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143745 | Oct 28 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Oct 28 11:10 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 11:10 |
schestowitz | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143744 | Oct 28 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 28 11:10 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 11:10 |
schestowitz | #Android Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143743 | Oct 28 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 28 11:10 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 11:10 |
schestowitz | Now and Then: What happened to 5 promising file managers? ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143742 | Oct 28 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Now and Then: What happened to 5 promising file managers? | Tux Machines | Oct 28 11:10 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 11:10 |
schestowitz | This keyboard phone runs three operating systems, including Android | Oct 28 11:10 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143705#comment-26908 | Oct 28 11:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Pro1 X Smartphone to Ship with Android, Lineage OS, or Ubuntu Touch | Tux Machines | Oct 28 11:10 | |
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MinceR | (cat) (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/10/27/b54adeada8d0aa09.mp4 https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/10/27/ddaf11fc5fc18cb9.mp4 | Oct 28 13:47 |
XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmeduza.io%2Fnews%2F2020%2F10%2F28%2Ffinancial-times-apple-zanimaetsya-razrabotkoy-sobstvennogo-poiskovika | Oct 28 13:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-translate.google.com | Google Translate | Oct 28 13:52 | |
XRevan86 | Google Translate, because the source is behind a paywall. | Oct 28 13:53 |
XRevan86 | https://forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2020/10/28/apple-is-reportedly-creating-its-own-search-engine-amid-googles-antitrust-woes/ | Oct 28 13:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Apple Is Reportedly Creating Its Own Search Engine Amid Google’s Antitrust Woes | Oct 28 13:55 | |
XRevan86 | Maybe they'll call it Apbingle | Oct 28 13:56 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 28 14:00 |
MinceR | finally people can enjoy the same sort of brokenness as crApple Maps, but now in the form of a search engine | Oct 28 14:00 |
Ariadne | apple maps seems pretty ok to me | Oct 28 14:02 |
MinceR | it certainly innovated the topography a great deal | Oct 28 14:02 |
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MinceR | but i suspect most people would prefer to see the actual topography | Oct 28 14:03 |
MinceR | also, to not be guided onto an airport runway, or into the water | Oct 28 14:04 |
MinceR | https://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/ | Oct 28 14:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com | The Amazing iOS 6 Maps | Oct 28 14:04 | |
Ariadne | it has improved since then | Oct 28 14:06 |
MinceR | good, that means their search engine might actually be usable 8 years from its release | Oct 28 14:07 |
MinceR | too bad only the most zealous apple fans will use it by then | Oct 28 14:07 |
Ariadne | i use apple maps because it doesn't ask me to clarify if i went to a sex shop or not | Oct 28 14:09 |
Ariadne | unlike google | Oct 28 14:09 |
Ariadne | that was the last straw for android with me | Oct 28 14:09 |
Ariadne | "but android is open source" | Oct 28 14:09 |
Ariadne | yes, and practically useless without the proprietary bits | Oct 28 14:10 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 28 14:10 |
MinceR | at least android is an open platform | Oct 28 14:11 |
Ariadne | open in what way | Oct 28 14:12 |
MinceR | in the way that you don't need anyone's permission to deploy your code on it | Oct 28 14:12 |
Ariadne | you don't need anyone's permission to sideload IPKs either | Oct 28 14:12 |
Ariadne | that is a common misconception | Oct 28 14:12 |
Ariadne | if you connect the iphone to your computer, you can self-sign an IPK and sideload it | Oct 28 14:12 |
MinceR | yeah, on your own device, if you pay the cupertino mafia some outrageous fee every year | Oct 28 14:13 |
Ariadne | no fee | Oct 28 14:13 |
MinceR | good luck starting your own application repository | Oct 28 14:13 |
Ariadne | there's alternative app stores that you can install actually | Oct 28 14:13 |
MinceR | after jailbreaking, yeah | Oct 28 14:13 |
Ariadne | no jailbreak needed | Oct 28 14:13 |
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twitter_says_hi | hi, folks | Oct 28 14:15 |
MinceR | hi | Oct 28 14:15 |
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twitter_says_hi | notices an interesting connection you have probably already seen ... | Oct 28 14:16 |
twitter_says_hi | Hope Hicks, one of Trump's chief PR people, came from Edelman - Microsoft's super evil PR company | Oct 28 14:17 |
twitter_says_hi | The similarity between Trump's flim flam and Microsoft's was stunning, and this is probably why. | Oct 28 14:17 |
twitter_says_hi | She graduated in 2010 from the party school, Southern Methodist University with a BA in English | Oct 28 14:18 |
twitter_says_hi | Then went to work for The Zeno Group, the "conflict agency of Edelman" | Oct 28 14:18 |
Ariadne | MinceR: the way the secondary app stores work is by self-signing the ipks and sideloading them. its similar to how fdroid works | Oct 28 14:18 |
twitter_says_hi | By 2012 she was with another firm and working with Ivanka Trump | Oct 28 14:19 |
twitter_says_hi | She joined Trump's crime syndicate full time in 2014 | Oct 28 14:19 |
twitter_says_hi | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hope_Hicks | Oct 28 14:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Hope Hicks - Wikipedia | Oct 28 14:20 | |
Ariadne | ok | Oct 28 14:20 |
Ariadne | nobody cares | Oct 28 14:20 |
Ariadne | go away | Oct 28 14:20 |
twitter_says_hi | https://everything-pr.com/the-zeno-group/ | Oct 28 14:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-everything-pr.com | Public Relations Blog - Everything PR News | Oct 28 14:20 | |
MinceR | well, it doesn't surprise me that there's a connection between Agent Orange and microshit | Oct 28 14:21 |
twitter_says_hi | So there you have it. There's probably more Microsoft influence over Trump | Oct 28 14:21 |
MinceR | Ariadne: f-droid doesn't need me to connect the phone to another computer, or to sign anything | Oct 28 14:21 |
Ariadne | true, but it is possible to enroll new codesigning certificates without apple's blessing | Oct 28 14:22 |
Ariadne | you only pay the fee if you want to buy a cert from them | Oct 28 14:22 |
twitter_says_hi | Trump obviously favored Gates and Microsoft early in his administration -meeting privately with Gates while setting up that insulting "meeting" with CEO's of other tech firms which he had his daughter run. | Oct 28 14:22 |
Ariadne | otherwise you enroll a codesigning cert the way you enroll any other cert | Oct 28 14:23 |
twitter_says_hi | and now the Trump administration has sued Microsoft's chief remaining corporate competitor | Oct 28 14:23 |
Ariadne | anyway | Oct 28 14:23 |
Ariadne | twitter_says_hi: fascinating theory, but there are simpler explanations | Oct 28 14:23 |
Ariadne | google denied trump campaign ads | Oct 28 14:24 |
twitter_says_hi | That is all I have today, have to go to work. Keep up the good reporting here, Roy. | Oct 28 14:24 |
Ariadne | therefore der furher trump decided to smackdown google | Oct 28 14:24 |
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kingoffrance | i think the fallacy is a) pr people have loyalties/morals b) their flimflam greatly differs for different clients | Oct 28 14:29 |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: F-Droid no longer uses its own certificate. And it was only needed to rebuild the application as an ensurance. | Oct 28 14:39 |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: How viable is the use of an iPhone without registering on apple.com? | Oct 28 14:44 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/0f419091dd1cc97f.jpg | Oct 28 14:52 |
MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/6a3defc000eaf8fb.jpg | Oct 28 15:05 |
Ariadne | XRevan86: not viable, but don't care | Oct 28 15:18 |
Ariadne | i'm a practical person. pmOS just isn't there yet. | Oct 28 15:18 |
Ariadne | and i don't want a phone asking me about whether or not i went to a sex shop | Oct 28 15:18 |
Ariadne | like google's phones do (: | Oct 28 15:18 |
Chaekyung | I've never had a phone ask me that | Oct 28 15:21 |
Ariadne | you're clearly not living life to the fullest then | Oct 28 15:22 |
*XRevan86 doesn't have Google Maps. | Oct 28 15:25 | |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: I'm a practical person, I use Android, but I just don't register it on Google. | Oct 28 15:25 |
XRevan86 | After 2GIS got bought out by Sber I'm in a bit of a search, but OsmAnd works surprisingly well so far. | Oct 28 15:26 |
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XRevan86 | It has come a long way since the last time I checked it out (2014). | Oct 28 15:34 |
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schestowitz | Links 28/10/2020: Torvalds on Succession, PyTorch 1.7.0 ⢠ðð´ð²ð·ðð¸ð¶ð·ðð â http://techrights.org/2020/10/28/pytorch-1-7-0/ | Oct 28 15:53 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 15:53 |
schestowitz | Todayâs ð£ð¾ð ððªð¬ð±ð²ð·ð®ð¼ Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143749 | Oct 28 15:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 28/10/2020: Torvalds on Succession, PyTorch 1.7.0 | Techrights | Oct 28 15:53 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 28 15:53 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 15:53 |
schestowitz | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143748 | Oct 28 15:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 28 15:53 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 15:53 |
schestowitz | #Programming Leftovers ⢠ð¿ðð ð¸ððððððð â http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143747 | Oct 28 15:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Oct 28 15:53 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Oct 28 15:53 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: thank you :-) :-) | Oct 28 15:55 |
MinceR | Ariadne: maybe you can just set up google maps to not ask you to review places | Oct 28 15:59 |
MinceR | OsmAnd is great for hiking, not so great for in-car navigation :> | Oct 28 15:59 |
schestowitz | [13:55] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.forbes.com | Apple Is Reportedly Creating Its Own Search Engine Amid Google’s Antitrust Woes | Oct 28 16:00 |
schestowitz | Like Apple isn't a target as well... | Oct 28 16:00 |
MinceR | maybe they're appeasing twitler already :> | Oct 28 16:01 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Maybe, I use it for pedestrian and public transport navigation :) | Oct 28 16:01 |
schestowitz | MinceR: Microsoft did | Oct 28 16:05 |
schestowitz | seems the Agent Orange would go out of his way to bailout MSFT | Oct 28 16:06 |
schestowitz | "the genius from Microsoft" -Trump | Oct 28 16:06 |
schestowitz | his words | Oct 28 16:06 |
schestowitz | I suppose criminals tend to fancy other criminals who know how to get away with it all | Oct 28 16:06 |
schestowitz | [14:17] <twitter_says_hi> Hope Hicks, one of Trump's chief PR people, came from Edelman - Microsoft's super evil PR company | Oct 28 16:07 |
schestowitz | Edelman is a LOT bigger than just Microsoft | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | Ballmers wife Connie (spelling)?) comes from there | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | *Steve Ballmer's | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | I forgot her first name | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | I mentioned it in Techrights | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | several people from Edelman are in Linux Foundation | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | one left, used to work for DNI (CLapper) | Oct 28 16:08 |
schestowitz | another infiltrated OpenJS and then LF, works for Microsoft, used to work for Edelman | Oct 28 16:09 |
schestowitz | Edelman bribes "reviewers" for Microsoft | Oct 28 16:09 |
schestowitz | but I would not say the companies are intimately connected | Oct 28 16:09 |
schestowitz | Oh, wait. | Oct 28 16:09 |
schestowitz | Ballmer's wife isn't from there either | Oct 28 16:09 |
schestowitz | She's from Waggener-Edstrom, Pam's firm | Oct 28 16:10 |
schestowitz | but it doesn't matter | Oct 28 16:10 |
schestowitz | the connection noted above is little but a "smell test" | Oct 28 16:10 |
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schestowitz | [14:20] <Ariadne> go away | Oct 28 16:14 |
schestowitz | Twitter the person has contributed a lot to our site, his nickname predates the web site Twitter | Oct 28 16:14 |
schestowitz | Maybe you misidentified him as a troll, he's a very good person | Oct 28 16:15 |
schestowitz | "on the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog" (until you bark) | Oct 28 16:16 |
schestowitz | [14:04] <MinceR> https://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/ | Oct 28 16:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com | The Amazing iOS 6 Maps | Oct 28 16:20 | |
schestowitz | LOL | Oct 28 16:20 |
schestowitz | it's always still funny | Oct 28 16:20 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698728.jpg | Oct 28 17:08 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Saw the news about the site overhaul on my RSS feed | Oct 28 17:53 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Good luck with it | Oct 28 17:53 |
schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: thanks | Oct 28 18:05 |
schestowitz | people can help.. | Oct 28 18:05 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't want to make promises I can't keep. '=D | Oct 28 18:07 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I didn't really see any mention of RSS in the recent posts about the overhaul, though. Is anything changing on that front? | Oct 28 18:07 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt | Oct 28 18:11 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I did read about that | Oct 28 18:11 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The text version | Oct 28 18:11 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's neat | Oct 28 18:11 |
schestowitz | There's more coming | Oct 28 18:11 |
schestowitz | but... | Oct 28 18:12 |
XRevan86 | Ariadne: The freaky thing is that I don't actually need Google's permission to use my phone. | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | I think it's a stepping stone | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | I'll code some more tonight, maybe we can run the site not only over http/s | Oct 28 18:12 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You may want to go down the route of turning the site into an onion service at some point in the future. | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: you are used by the phone more than you use it | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | it extracts your location 1000 times more often than you even stare at it | Oct 28 18:12 |
schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: that to | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | *too | Oct 28 18:13 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Opsos is a whole different story | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | main deficiency is hyperlinking | Oct 28 18:13 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you give it a few months, I should have time in my schedule to help with that | Oct 28 18:13 |
schestowitz | but with some coding you can extract summary for each link, then add it as footnote to make it more self-contained | Oct 28 18:13 |
XRevan86 | mobile network carrier that is | Oct 28 18:14 |
schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: excellent, thank you | Oct 28 18:14 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz (y) | Oct 28 18:15 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: But at least it's not worse than a feature phone. | Oct 28 18:17 |
schestowitz | what's a "feeecher" phone? | Oct 28 18:18 |
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schestowitz | I could never tell for sure what that classification mean | Oct 28 18:18 |
schestowitz | does it mean the ones that started coming with cameras, but not yet "apps"? | Oct 28 18:19 |
XRevan86 | > A feature phone is a mobile phone that retains the form factor of earlier-generation phones, with button-based input and a small display. Feature phones are sometimes called dumbphones in contrast with touch-input smartphones. | Oct 28 18:19 |
XRevan86 | I didn't want to use "dumbphone". | Oct 28 18:19 |
schestowitz | what's the motorola one I had in 2002 called? | Oct 28 18:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/27/hurriane-zeta-florida-early-voting-432984 | Oct 28 18:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Zeta cuts short early voting in Florida Republican strongholds - POLITICO | Oct 28 18:20 | |
DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Oct 28 18:20 |
schestowitz | it was the last I had of them, as my dad wanted to stay in touch | Oct 28 18:20 |
XRevan86 | > Prior to the popularity of smartphones, the term 'feature phone' was often used on high-end phones with assorted functions for retail customers, developed at the advent of 3G networks, which allowed sufficient bandwidth for these capabilities. | Oct 28 18:20 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Apparently so, yes. | Oct 28 18:20 |
XRevan86 | Anyway, my point is that a carrier is a giant location-snooping hole, but that's something that any phone has by design. | Oct 28 18:21 |
XRevan86 | And the only differences that do exist revolve around 2G, 3G and LTE having different precision capabilities. | Oct 28 18:22 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The only way to really protect yourself from that is to use end-to-end encryption for absolutely everything that's going on with your device. Not something you'll see in consumer items. You give away your location but that's all the carrier gets | Oct 28 18:23 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Btw, bit of a PSA for you lot | Oct 28 18:36 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There are a lot of shady scams going around this year | Oct 28 18:36 |
MinceR | our entire society is a shady scam | Oct 28 18:37 |
MinceR | we should be used to it | Oct 28 18:37 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Install a call recorder software on the phones of your friends and family, to help protect them against fraud | Oct 28 18:37 |
schestowitz | our Home Office does that | Oct 28 18:37 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | F-droid has an app called "Call Recorder" | Oct 28 18:37 |
schestowitz | "install app" | Oct 28 18:37 |
schestowitz | corona, EU post-brexit | Oct 28 18:38 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's pretty decent | Oct 28 18:38 |
schestowitz | apps that send them photos of you | Oct 28 18:38 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If someone has a passport, I think that kind of defeats the purpose lol | Oct 28 18:39 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They already have pictures of you | Oct 28 18:39 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The elderly are particularly vulnerable. Having records makes a difference. | Oct 28 18:40 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Get it off F-droid. It's a lot more trustworthy than Google Play | Oct 28 18:41 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The scams are going to ramp up near Christmas time. | Oct 28 18:42 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Early action is good thing. (y) | Oct 28 18:42 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | is a* | Oct 28 18:42 |
schestowitz | [18:39] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> If someone has a passport, I think that kind of defeats the purpose lol | Oct 28 18:48 |
schestowitz | yes, but wait | Oct 28 18:48 |
schestowitz | tomorrow I need to apply for something | Oct 28 18:48 |
schestowitz | and it seems like if you don't have "phone" they exclude you | Oct 28 18:48 |
schestowitz | but... I am NOT sure yet | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | email and in-person seem like fallback options | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | for older people I suppose | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | if no phone means lots of trouble, I will write about it, but tbh there usually happen to be fallback | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | like cashless society when you're disables | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | *disabled | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | or "self-service" checkout | Oct 28 18:49 |
schestowitz | they make exception | Oct 28 18:50 |
schestowitz | of when you need to dine somewhere they wants you to use a phone (that exists now) | Oct 28 18:50 |
schestowitz | they can do it on the restaurants' phones, just ask for some details like first name | Oct 28 18:50 |
schestowitz | and phone # (landline) | Oct 28 18:50 |
schestowitz | if the fallback are cut, then shtf | Oct 28 18:51 |
schestowitz | bbl, nap | Oct 28 18:52 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Have a good one | Oct 28 18:52 |
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tessier | Someone mentioned my name causing this tab to hilight but then it scrolled off. | Oct 28 22:05 |
tessier | I need to figure out how to make irsii increase buffer length. | Oct 28 22:05 |
schestowitz | ah, it was me | Oct 28 22:06 |
schestowitz | that was something about varnish | Oct 28 22:06 |
schestowitz | I said that having a reverse proxy for HTTPS might be worthwhile, as it can be done at a level other than the 'proper' back end with DB and all | Oct 28 22:06 |
schestowitz | Ariadne once suggested she can add a layer for SSL/TSL or similar | Oct 28 22:07 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | What's the purpose of the proxy? | Oct 28 22:09 |
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schestowitz | we have a long tooth | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | an old version of CentOS | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | supported until next year, sort of | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | as set up by tessier at one point | Oct 28 22:22 |
schestowitz | and many crypto libs have a dependency chain in them | Oct 28 22:23 |
schestowitz | which makes deploying ssl stuff a bit of a downtime risk | Oct 28 22:23 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you're setting up a reverse proxy just for newer openssl functionality, you're building up quite a bit of technical debt | Oct 28 22:24 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Do you have enough juice on your server to run a mirror? | Oct 28 22:27 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Why not update? | Oct 28 22:28 |
XRevan86 | It is already technical debt. | Oct 28 22:28 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | True dat | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: that's the plan actually | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | right now we have broken sudoers file on hv | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | needs downtime to sort out | Oct 28 22:29 |
schestowitz | the plan is to use a new OS, new install | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | maybe one container for each CMS | Oct 28 22:30 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you're messing with the configs now, I recommend using containers | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | we started with shared hosting in 2006 | Oct 28 22:30 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Build them containers while the config malarkey is fresh in your heads | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | DDoS attacks finished us | Oct 28 22:30 |
schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: the DB is already in a container | Oct 28 22:31 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Since you're messing about with CMS formats now, maybe you should consider distributing via a medium that's resistant to DDoS | Oct 28 22:34 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Something like torrents | Oct 28 22:34 |
schestowitz | would you be interested? | Oct 28 22:36 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I would. | Oct 28 22:36 |
schestowitz | full archive? | Oct 28 22:36 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | How much space is that? | Oct 28 22:37 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | GB* | Oct 28 22:37 |
schestowitz | there's one person in boston who has a full static archive of the site as of last year | Oct 28 22:37 |
schestowitz | sans images, I think | Oct 28 22:37 |
schestowitz | about 40,000 pages, the text alone would be around 10gb | Oct 28 22:37 |
schestowitz | compressed maybe 1.5gb | Oct 28 22:37 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Should be able to work with that | Oct 28 22:38 |
XRevan86 | "maybe you should consider distributing via a medium that's resistant to DDoS" – or not using mpm_prefork | Oct 28 22:38 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | xz should give you pretty good ratios | Oct 28 22:39 |
schestowitz | the issue is sanitising the data | Oct 28 22:40 |
schestowitz | passwords and things | Oct 28 22:40 |
schestowitz | and making cross referencing work | Oct 28 22:41 |
schestowitz | even on local copies | Oct 28 22:41 |
schestowitz | so local relative paths | Oct 28 22:41 |
schestowitz | when the site was young in 2007 we had a "download site" option | Oct 28 22:41 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It would probably be better to let readers just download the parts they want. | Oct 28 22:43 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You could generate a torrent for each new post and build an index of the magnet links. | Oct 28 22:44 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I doubt most people would want to just download the entire site if they're interested in a few articles | Oct 28 22:44 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Announce new magnet links via RSS | Oct 28 22:45 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There you go. New CMS | Oct 28 22:45 |
schestowitz | any tools for that? | Oct 28 22:45 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm building them in my free time lol | Oct 28 22:45 |
schestowitz | like seed/base URL, then traversal from that? | Oct 28 22:45 |
schestowitz | so maybe you can seed them | Oct 28 22:45 |
schestowitz | I can add a machine of mine to the torrent | Oct 28 22:46 |
schestowitz | it's not like we do ads or anything, so any dissemination would be a positive, no matter the form | Oct 28 22:46 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah. Distribution here is all legal content anyway | Oct 28 22:46 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can generate magnet links pretty fast because it's just based on SHA1 | Oct 28 22:48 |
schestowitz | cool | Oct 28 22:49 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's just magnet:?xt=urn:btih:<SHA1SUM>&dn=<filename> | Oct 28 22:51 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `magnet:?xt=urn:btih:<SHA1SUM>&dn=<filename>` | Oct 28 22:51 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme | Oct 28 22:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Magnet URI scheme - Wikipedia | Oct 28 22:52 | |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme#Parameters" for the common parameters | Oct 28 22:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Magnet URI scheme - Wikipedia | Oct 28 22:53 | |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | No need for any fancy port forwarding or anything because it's DHT (distributed hash table) | Oct 28 22:53 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Just pass the magnet URI into a client and hey presto you find a seeder (eventually) | Oct 28 22:54 |
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vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Transmission is pretty good. It's fast and pretty easy to operate from the CLI | Oct 28 22:54 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There's plenty of GUI options as well | Oct 28 22:55 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I tested it out a few days ago. Got some friends from different countries to try and download a small text file I was seeding. They found me in less than 30 seconds. | Oct 28 22:56 |
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schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: thanks | Oct 28 23:29 |
schestowitz | I was busy posting daily links, sorry.. | Oct 28 23:29 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | No worries. I'm going to be doing a lot of work with torrent-based CMS near Christmas time. I can give techrights early access to my research, if you are interested. | Oct 28 23:29 |
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schestowitz | vallor: cheers, appreciated! | Oct 28 23:38 |
schestowitz | I'll focus on just writing for now | Oct 28 23:38 |
schestowitz | in 20 mins from now it's midnight, so I'll be testing improvements to the Bulletin some more | Oct 28 23:38 |
schestowitz | lots of possible things to fix in it | Oct 28 23:38 |
oiaohm | https://www.osr.com/blog/2020/10/15/microsoft-driver-updates-allowed-win7-win8/ Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8 << Let the end of life games begin. | Oct 28 23:40 |
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schestowitz | self nuke | Oct 28 23:40 |
schestowitz | Microsoft = Planned Obsolescence | Oct 28 23:40 |
oiaohm | To be correct this is the biggest pool that Microsoft has ever attempted at once. | Oct 28 23:42 |
oiaohm | This will effectively make it impossible to release new or updated drivers for Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 systems, including Server 2012 R2. << Its a really wide orbit nuke strike. | Oct 28 23:43 |
MinceR | they, too should get nuked from orbit | Oct 28 23:44 |
schestowitz | too much maintenance cost | Oct 28 23:44 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Little voice inside my head says this is a way to herd people toward Azure faster | Oct 28 23:44 |
schestowitz | we'll see what happens in years to come, s korea and china among others moving to gnu linux | Oct 28 23:44 |
schestowitz | it'll reduce the incentive for msft to keep maintaining windows | Oct 28 23:44 |
schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: they can go to google, aws etc. | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | azure is a failure | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | layoffs there | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | and losses too, I heard | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | lots of hype, ads, and fake 'articles' | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | to maintain a perception of "momentum" and "Growth" | Oct 28 23:45 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Google was third, last time I checked | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | IBM got busted for faking "cloud" | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | Microsoft will be busted next | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | complaint with the SEC already | Oct 28 23:45 |
schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: distant | Oct 28 23:46 |
schestowitz | and it doesn't count fiscal | Oct 28 23:46 |
schestowitz | just some superficial measures | Oct 28 23:46 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Could be | Oct 28 23:46 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't do these stats | Oct 28 23:46 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I work with private networks. My clients don't trust public cloud | Oct 28 23:47 |
schestowitz | I never trust clowns | Oct 28 23:47 |
schestowitz | jokesters CIOs/CTOs think outsourcing their work is "hip" | Oct 28 23:47 |
schestowitz | their decisions are reduced to "logins" and "clown computing" for password management too | Oct 28 23:48 |
schestowitz | and training their staff for clown GUIs | Oct 28 23:48 |
schestowitz | never mind how many times those GUIs will change, requiring a retraining process and lock-in | Oct 28 23:48 |
oiaohm | Really after that list of OS drops are done that will leave sections of Windows 10 as the next place to cut. | Oct 28 23:48 |
schestowitz | Vista10 is nothing if you don't count OEMs | Oct 28 23:49 |
schestowitz | nobody buys Vista10 | Oct 28 23:49 |
schestowitz | and Microsoft gave it 'free' to 'seed' the market | Oct 28 23:49 |
schestowitz | otherwise it would be a dud and failure in the statistical sense | Oct 28 23:49 |
oiaohm | Enterprise customers do | Oct 28 23:49 |
schestowitz | requiring them to maintain many old versions of VistaX | Oct 28 23:49 |
oiaohm | But that is normally other software lock in | Oct 28 23:49 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I do a lot of stuff around FIPS 140. People like that aren't allowed near these systems. :) | Oct 28 23:50 |
oiaohm | You have to remember stuff like Adobe | Oct 28 23:50 |
oiaohm | Boy does some the Adobe software hate you if you try to use Windows 7 | Oct 28 23:50 |
schestowitz | I use neither | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | so it doesn't matter | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | LF uses Adobe | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | on "Macs" | Oct 28 23:51 |
schestowitz | or outsource to PR firms that do | Oct 28 23:51 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Tbf to a lot of businesses. They've basically managed to get help desk take over sysadmin jobs | Oct 28 23:51 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I see the appeal | Oct 28 23:51 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I once suggested to an "expert" programmer that they just run Adobe in WINE, instead of going through the hassle of running WSL2 on Windows10 just to have access to Adobe. | Oct 28 23:53 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The amount of flak I got for that suggestion made the agenda quite evident. | Oct 28 23:54 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And heavens forbid you suggest someone to virtualise Windows | Oct 28 23:56 |
XRevan86 | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Which Adobe software piece? | Oct 28 23:56 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Photoshop | Oct 28 23:56 |
XRevan86 | https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=38516 | Oct 28 23:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-appdb.winehq.org | WineHQ - Adobe Photoshop CC 2020 (21.0) | Oct 28 23:57 | |
XRevan86 | Not well-tested. | Oct 28 23:57 |
oiaohm | Silver is not a good result either. | Oct 28 23:57 |
oiaohm | Gold and platinum for usage in wine appdb you are looking for. | Oct 28 23:57 |
oiaohm | Silver means stuff is known busted that you have to work around. | Oct 28 23:58 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | People that do graphics work have desktops that are more than capable of running perfectly fine inside a virtual machine | Oct 28 23:58 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They don't even need the performance boost that WINE offers | Oct 28 23:58 |
XRevan86 | Apparently the installer doesn't work. | Oct 28 23:58 |
schestowitz | [23:53] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> I once suggested to an "expert" programmer that they just run Adobe in WINE, instead of going through the hassle of running WSL2 on Windows10 just to have access to Adobe. | Oct 28 23:58 |
schestowitz | Moving from GNU/Linux to Windows 10/Vista 10 to run Adobe crap? | Oct 28 23:59 |
XRevan86 | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: Indeed, but there could be a catch. | Oct 28 23:59 |
schestowitz | Is that what happened? | Oct 28 23:59 |
schestowitz | as if to say, "just use WSL instead of GNU/Linux?" | Oct 28 23:59 |
vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | schestowitz it's what this person was shilling to unwitting *nix users on a certain forum | Oct 28 23:59 |
oiaohm | WSL2 really does end up costing a lot of time with hosting. | Oct 28 23:59 |
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