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[00:06]	EightBallz	lol i thought he had a broken keyboard
[00:06]	schestowitz[TR3]	I have some of those, too
[00:08]	starstreak	roy doesn't like anything thats new, thats why he takes all his photos with a 2MP camera
[00:08]	EightBallz	how do you know that?
[00:09]	starstreak	all his photos are 320x240
[00:09]	starstreak	hes definately a beefcake
[00:13]	EightBallz	lol
[00:14]	starstreak	hes got a really cool desk
[00:14]	starstreak	theres like 9 monitors
[00:15]	starstreak	he has a really cool widescreen monitor that you can turn on its side for a verticle layout
[00:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[00:25]	TR News	Red Hat is Bragging, Knowing That Its Killing People for Profit With Raytheon and Lockheed Martin (Thats Not Freedom, It’s Death) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/red-hat-lockheed-martin-raytheon/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/red-hat-lockheed-martin-raytheon/
[00:25]	TR Bot	 Red Hat is Bragging, Knowing That Its Killing People for Profit With Raytheon and Lockheed Martin (Thats Not Freedom, Its Death) | Techrights
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[00:46]	AdmFubar	https://arstechnica.com/?p=1893156
[00:46]	TR Bot	 Biden admin bracing for up to 70K COVID deaths this winter as booster uptake flops | Ars Technica
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[00:50]	reptilian_thrills	 which is better, the free sweatshop foundation, or the open sweatshop initiative
[00:50]	reptilian_thrills	both make it so corporations have to hire fewer people and get more labour for free
[00:50]	reptilian_thrills	making software development another sweatshop per average employee
[00:51]	reptilian_thrills	one might as well have intended to (osi) and other was taken over (fsf)
[00:51]	reptilian_thrills	people volunteer to write code for free though <- under different circumstances they did
[00:51]	reptilian_thrills	but under these circumstances, theyre just working for corporations for free
[00:51]	reptilian_thrills	not for freedom
[00:51]	reptilian_thrills	they dont have the 4 freedoms, so theyre being tricked into working for corporations for free
[00:52]	reptilian_thrills	you agreed to work for nn under other conditions
[00:52]	reptilian_thrills	then when you realised you were being cheated, you said so
[00:52]	reptilian_thrills	how is my argument different?
[00:53]	reptilian_thrills	theyre writing software that doesnt have the 4 freedoms. they should be paid like theyre writing software the corporations control, because the corporations do
[00:53]	MinceR	how are they tricked into it?
[00:54]	reptilian_thrills	<MinceR> how are they tricked into it? <- theyre being told theyre writing software for the public good
[00:54]	reptilian_thrills	software that the public has 4 freedoms (free software)
[00:54]	reptilian_thrills	but its really controlled by corporations
[00:54]	reptilian_thrills	its not really free, so theyre really doing work that mostly benefits corporations
[00:54]	reptilian_thrills	in the long run
[00:54]	reptilian_thrills	in the short run, everybody gets a copy, yay!
[00:55]	reptilian_thrills	in the long run, everybody gets decades of work co-opted
[00:55]	reptilian_thrills	not yay
[00:55]	reptilian_thrills	if youre working to co-opt the free software movement, but under the pretense of writing free software for humanity...
[00:56]	reptilian_thrills	this is false pretenses and exploitation, and youre really working for corporations
[00:56]	reptilian_thrills	you should be paid accordingly
[00:56]	reptilian_thrills	instead, microsoft controls linux, ibm controls gcc, the free software movemennt was MOSTLY to help microsoft and ibm
[00:56]	reptilian_thrills	and both corporations get free labour under false pretenses
[00:56]	reptilian_thrills	theres a word for that: sweatshops.
[00:57]	reptilian_thrills	so like i said, which is better: the free sweatshop foundation, or the open sweatshop initiative?
[00:57]	reptilian_thrills	osi has a longer legacy of promoting sweatshop labour, so its "better" in THAT regard
[00:57]	reptilian_thrills	the fsf has only been doing this since the takeover. or since 2014. when they were arguably taken over. 
[00:57]	reptilian_thrills	or whatever date you like.
[00:58]	reptilian_thrills	but 2019 at the latest
[00:58]	reptilian_thrills	is it possible to write free software thats really free? 
[00:58]	reptilian_thrills	sure. but it rarely happens
[00:58]	reptilian_thrills	most projects get usurped by corporations who dont care about freedom
[00:58]	reptilian_thrills	so again-- whats the point, other than turning software into another sweatshop industry?
[00:59]	reptilian_thrills	(i mean microsoft was making huge progress with that in india years ago)
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[00:59]	reptilian_thrills	(but nothing like what the open sweatshop initiative managed)
● Oct 28
[01:00]	reptilian_thrills	hell, techrights has written loads about this, but usually pronounces "free software" as "european patent office" (fair enough)
[01:00]	MinceR	the fsf has a better past and a more useful website
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[01:10]	reptilian_thrills	if corporations are going usurp free software communities, they should have to pay those involved like employees
[01:11]	reptilian_thrills	hopefully this would lead to them leaving free software alone rather than trying to control it
[01:11]	reptilian_thrills	as it wouldnt save them any money 
[01:11]	reptilian_thrills	theres no legal way to enforce this, the legal system is rigged to exploit practically everyone
[01:12]	reptilian_thrills	abolishing corporations seems like a reasonable solution if anybody can think of a way to do that instead
[01:13]	reptilian_thrills	there are legal limits on unpaid interns
[01:13]	reptilian_thrills	but not in free software, afaik
[01:13]	reptilian_thrills	so free software is just a giant loophole that no one is willing to clos
[01:14]	reptilian_thrills	i think its important, i think the movement should be rebuilt
[01:14]	reptilian_thrills	but if its not going to fight corporate takeover it might as well put a gun in its mouth and oh, it already did
[01:18]	TR News	What's new with the Firefox Profiler? (Q3 2022) Mozilla Performance https://blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/10/27/whats-new-with-the-firefox-profiler-q3-2022/ Source: Mozilla | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.mozilla.org/performance/2022/10/27/whats-new-with-the-firefox-profiler-q3-2022/
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Whats new with the Firefox Profiler? (Q3 2022) Mozilla Performance
[01:18]	TR News	Mozilla Localization (L10N): L10n Report: October 2022 Edition https://blog.mozilla.org/l10n/2022/10/27/l10n-report-october-2022-edition/
[01:18]	TR Bot	 L10n Report: October 2022 Edition | Mozilla L10N
[01:18]	starstreak	https://giza.mused.org/en/guided/266/inside-the-great-pyramid
[01:18]	TR Bot	 Inside the Great Pyramid | Giza Project
[01:19]	reptilian_thrills	the entire european union is attacking frigging techrights and it makes me so angry
[01:19]	TR News	Red Hat, which pretends to have moral high ground over the Free software community, has Red Blood on its hands; today was a reminder of that http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/red-hat-lockheed-martin-raytheon/
[01:19]	TR Bot	 Red Hat is Bragging, Knowing That Its Killing People for Profit With Raytheon and Lockheed Martin (Thats Not Freedom, Its Death) | Techrights
[01:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[01:33]	TR News	American entertainment gemini://freeshell.de/f1/2022-10-28_American_entertainment.gmi
[01:34]	TR News	Thinking about threading. gemini://going-flying.com/~mernisse/30.gmi
[01:35]	TR News	Off-Topic - One Week Later... gemini://basil-mori.cities.yesterweb.org/blog/2022-10-27_one-week-later.gmi "someone was making very incorrect arguments about the GPL 3.0 license"
[01:37]	TR News	DRM is Protected by Phoronix | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/drm-is-protected-by-phoronix/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/27/drm-is-protected-by-phoronix/
[01:37]	TR Bot	 DRM is Protected by Phoronix | Techrights
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[01:43]	TR News	Only starting to get close to the REAL value of the company: at most 100 billion. AT MOST. https://itwire.com/market/facebook-parent-meta-sees-$123b-in-market-value-wiped-after-bad-3q.html
[01:43]	TR Bot	- Facebook parent Meta sees US$800b in market value wiped after bad 3Q
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[01:45]	AdmFubar	https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/24/french-government-hits-clearview-with-the-maximum-fine-for-gdpr-violations/
[01:45]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/demand-bonds-overwhelms-us-treasury-231543151.html
[01:45]	TR Bot	Government Hits Clearview With The Maximum Fine For GDPR Violations | Techdirt
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Demand for I Bonds Overwhelms US Treasury
[01:45]	TR News	"I have worked directly with Wefwafwa in rural Uganda, he is the real deal." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9CairUDsY98
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Covid, vaccines, malaria - Invidious
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[01:47]	TR News	"The company announced its net sales had come in at US$127.1 billion, up 15% year-on-year, boosted mostly by its web services and retail sales in the US and its neighbours." https://itwire.com/market/amazon-joins-tech-giants-in-taking-a-beating-after-3q-results.html
[01:47]	TR Bot	- Amazon joins tech giants in taking a beating after 3Q results
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[01:50]	AdmFubar	https://www.rawstory.com/the-future-the-gop-wants-for-all-of-america-new-texas-law-unleashes-mayhem/
[01:50]	TR Bot	 'The future the GOP wants for all of America': New Texas law unleashes deadly mayhem - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism
[01:51]	TR News	x86 stronghold (rather weak lately due to the inflation and Windows failing users) is pushing DRM into kernel space, typically along with Microsoft and Google http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/drm-is-protected-by-phoronix/
[01:51]	TR News	 (NEW): Fedora 37 Delayed http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Fedora_37_Delayed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Fedora_37_Delayed.gmi 
[01:51]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Fedora 37 Delayed
[01:57]	TR News	iTWire - US official forgets about Assange case, advocates freedom of expression https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/us-official-forgets-about-assange-case,-advocates-freedom-of-expression.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/us-official-forgets-about-assange-case,-advocates-freedom-of-expression.h
[01:58]	TR Bot	- US official forgets about Assange case, advocates freedom of expression
[01:58]	TR News	iTWire - Thomson Reuters leaves terabytes of data exposed on Web: report https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/thomson-reuters-leaves-terabytes-of-data-exposed-on-web-report.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/business-it-news/security/thomson-reuters-leaves-terabytes-of-data-exposed-on-web-report.html
[01:58]	TR Bot	- Thomson Reuters leaves terabytes of data exposed on Web: report
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[01:59]	TR News	Rubbish? Install GNU/Linux (it's free) and run it from there. Far more practical. http://blogs.perl.org/users/itcharlie/2022/10/the-scoop-on-windows-running-perl.html
[01:59]	TR Bot	scoop on Windows running Perl | itcharlie [blogs.perl.org]
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[02:00]	TR News	iTWire - Google says Play Store targeted by EU anti-trust probe https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/google-says-play-store-targeted-by-eu-anti-trust-probe.html Source: IT Wire | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//itwire.com/technology-regulation/google-says-play-store-targeted-by-eu-anti-trust-probe.html
[02:00]	TR Bot	- Google says Play Store targeted by EU anti-trust probe
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[02:02]	starstreak	sucks to be a fedora user: http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Fedora_37_Delayed.shtml
[02:03]		*starstreak is loving gnome 43...
[02:06]	TR News	 (NEW): KDE e.V. elects new board members http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/KDE_e_V_elects_new_board_members.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/KDE_e_V_elects_new_board_members.gmi 
[02:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KDE e.V. elects new board members
[02:06]	TR News	 (NEW): Tuxedo OS Now Available as Separate Distro [Review] http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Tuxedo_OS_Now_Available_as_Separate_Distro_Review.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Tuxedo_OS_Now_Available_as_Separate_Distro_Review.gmi 
[02:06]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Tuxedo OS Now Available as Separate Distro [Review]
[02:07]	TR News	 (NEW): Vero 4K + support and manufacturing updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Vero_4K_support_and_manufacturing_updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Vero_4K_support_and_manufacturing_updates.gmi 
[02:07]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Vero 4K + support and manufacturing updates
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[02:12]	resistor	Musk acquired Twitter for 44billion(!!!); top managers fired.
[02:13]	resistor	44 billion, for some php coding, a json-rest api, and some server infrastructure.
[02:14]	reptilian_thrills	44 billion for the user data
[02:14]	reptilian_thrills	 + the users
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[02:16]	reptilian_thrills	didnt roy say musk wasnt going to buy twitter
[02:16]	resistor	reptilian_thrills: allright, discuss this, 44 billion for rubbish
[02:16]	reptilian_thrills	first yes, then no, yes?
[02:16]	reptilian_thrills	i suppose one of those had to be right
[02:17]	resistor	how much was freenode sold for?
[02:17]	reptilian_thrills	i know this sort of thing practically exists already
[02:17]	reptilian_thrills	but there should be a thing like stable diffusion where you just say "write a slashfic about ______ and ______ and _______" and it does
[02:18]	resistor	this is what Master Elon acquired: 44billion debt in the balance sheets
[02:18]	reptilian_thrills	dear princess celestia, ever since you sucked mincer up into the magical land equestria, we have been so happy together
[02:18]	reptilian_thrills	his mane is beautiful and hes the most handome pony
[02:18]	reptilian_thrills	love, britney
[02:19]	starstreak	ahh i just found it in the news
[02:19]	starstreak	not sure why it wasnt in Google News: Technology
[02:19]	resistor	how did they manage to accumulate that much debt on the balance sheets of twitter? and which banks were willing to pile up that much?
[02:19]	resistor	44billion poof, that's nothing, don't worry.
[02:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[02:20]	reptilian_thrills	apparently the slashfic engine types as badly as i do 
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[02:21]	reptilian_thrills	edward dome hands
[02:21]	reptilian_thrills	"wtf is this"
[02:21]	reptilian_thrills	"they dont even do anything"
[02:22]	starstreak	https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/technology/musk-twitter.html
[02:22]	TR Bot	 Musk Said to Begin Firing Twitters Top Executives - The New York Times
[02:22]	starstreak	I'm uneasy about Twitter
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[02:22]	starstreak	I loved Twitter, will Elon make it better or worse?
[02:22]	reptilian_thrills	does this mean twitter will be self-driving
[02:23]	starstreak	Twitter is the platform used by Anonymous
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[02:23]	reptilian_thrills	maybe musk is part of anonymous
[02:23]	starstreak	that would actually make him cool
[02:23]	reptilian_thrills	and he just pretends to be a giant douchebag like bruce wayne in batman begins
[02:23]	starstreak	lol
[02:23]	reptilian_thrills	"
[02:24]	reptilian_thrills	"I DEDUCE THIS DEUCE STAIN IS BRUCE WAYNE!"-- epic rap battles of history
[02:24]	XRevan86	As long as stuff is still up and accessible via Nitter I don't care what's happening at Twitter.
[02:24]	starstreak	Bruce Wayne is just a rich guy who beats up criminals because of his PTSD
[02:25]	reptilian_thrills	"nice hat... dork... you like like a duck"
[02:25]	reptilian_thrills	"i had alfred read your books-- he told me they sucked"
[02:26]	reptilian_thrills	all capes are bastards
[02:26]	reptilian_thrills	i saw a baby dressed in a little cop uniform earlier
[02:27]	reptilian_thrills	i didnt say anything but i was like "yep, him too!"
[02:28]	reptilian_thrills	"aww hes so cute!" "say hi! say hi!" "no, i dont talk to cops"
[02:28]	AdmFubar	twitter will be self crashing
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[02:28]	psydruid	does anything of importance happen at/on Twitter?
[02:28]	starstreak	kick-ass is a good movie, a guy dressed like batman has guns and bombs
[02:29]	reptilian_thrills	"its mostly a platform for scheduling public stonings
[02:29]	reptilian_thrills	kick-ass was a great movie
[02:29]	reptilian_thrills	it kicked ass
[02:29]	AdmFubar	twitter is for twits....
[02:29]	psydruid	what about the twats?
[02:30]	reptilian_thrills	theyre still on twitter
[02:30]	starstreak	i like twitter because of anonymous
[02:30]	starstreak	anonymous kicks ass
[02:30]	reptilian_thrills	plus ever since stallman was beheaded its where developers talk about the future of free software, because it doesnt have one
[02:31]	reptilian_thrills	anonymous was going to call themselves kick-ass but the name was already taken
[02:31]	reptilian_thrills	so they were like fuck names, were anonymous!
[02:32]	XRevan86	starstreak: I occasionally post translated to English content to #techpol that's hosted on Twitter. But I have no loyalty to it regardless.
[02:32]	starstreak	yeah without twitter, im sure anonymous could find another platform
[02:32]	reptilian_thrills	i think anonymous just posts wherever the fuck they want
[02:33]	reptilian_thrills	if they want to post on the jumbotron in times square, theyll use that
[02:33]	reptilian_thrills	its just 1s and 0s
[02:34]	starstreak	true
[02:34]	XRevan86	"its just 1s and 0s" <- Practically the definition of any kind of information :)
[02:34]	reptilian_thrills	a man would simply have to be a fucking weirdo, to try and make a living out of 1s and 0s
[02:34]	reptilian_thrills	try to make a living from a floppies worth of bytes
[02:35]	reptilian_thrills	<XRevan86> "its just 1s and 0s" <- Practically the definition of any kind of information <- i was just doing a bit
[02:35]	XRevan86	reptilian_thrills: Quite a byte.
[02:36]	reptilian_thrills	not one word out of you! 
[02:36]	reptilian_thrills	XRevan86 just keeps stringing us along
[02:37]	XRevan86	I have the best words.
[02:37]	reptilian_thrills	yeah you should really never start a pun war with a guy that speaks like 8 languages
[02:38]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-271022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-271022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-271022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-271022.txt
[02:38]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 27, 2022
[02:39]	TR News	Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-271022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-271022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-271022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-271022.txt
[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 27, 2022
[02:40]	XRevan86	psydruid: "what about the twats?" <- At least one, the Chief Twat.
[02:40]	TR News	Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-271022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-271022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-271022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-271022.txt
[02:40]	TR Bot	 IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 27, 2022
[02:40]	AdmFubar	https://futo.org/
[02:40]	TR Bot	 FUTO - Bringing control of computing back to the people
[02:41]	TR News	Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-271022.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-271022.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-271022.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-271022.txt
[02:41]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, October 27, 2022
[02:42]	reptilian_thrills	"im bored, i make spaceships and robot cars but i have unlimited money and theres nothing to do!"
[02:42]	reptilian_thrills	"why not buy twitter?"
[02:42]	reptilian_thrills	"huh... twitter..."
[02:42]	reptilian_thrills	"sure, why not?"
[02:43]	reptilian_thrills	how much was red hat again?
[02:43]	reptilian_thrills	the aliens must have grown an extra hand and an extra head so they can get work done while face-palming all the time
[02:44]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-10-27.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-10-27.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:44]	psydruid	red hat figured it out early
[02:44]	reptilian_thrills	"hOw dOeS hE kNow?"
[02:46]	psydruid	"keep up the charade for a generation and the next one won't even realise we've sold out everything including whatever principles we once professed to have"
[02:46]	reptilian_thrills	"keep up the charade for a generation and the next one won't even realise we've sold out everything including whatever principles we once professed to have" <- yep
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[02:47]	reptilian_thrills	nazi compiler collection
[02:48]	reptilian_thrills	ibmcc
[02:49]	starstreak	so if a lawyer has a nazi as a client, the lawyer is a nazi?
[02:50]	reptilian_thrills	that depends on whether the lawyer comes up with the entire plan for the holocaust or no
[02:50]	XRevan86	~Collaborator~
[02:50]	reptilian_thrills	if they do, then absolutely
[02:50]	reptilian_thrills	according to black, ibm is responsible for the plan to kill millions
[02:50]	reptilian_thrills	without ibm it would not have been possible
[02:51]	starstreak	that seems dubious 
[02:51]	reptilian_thrills	i am not going to call people holocaust deniers for giving me evidence black is wrong
[02:51]	starstreak	i dont think ibm would have gone along with it if they knew they were killing people
[02:51]	reptilian_thrills	blacks claims are extraordinary
[02:51]	reptilian_thrills	they seem to have merit imo
[02:51]	reptilian_thrills	i dont think ibm would have gone along with it if they knew they were killing people <- why not? what makes ibm care about people?
[02:51]	reptilian_thrills	you know they pay families off to not blame them
[02:52]	reptilian_thrills	they have never apologised
[02:52]	reptilian_thrills	its one of the conditions of the payment
[02:52]	reptilian_thrills	lots of other companies apologised-- but not ibm
[02:53]	reptilian_thrills	in that time period, lots of people were OPENLY supportive of hitler
[02:53]	reptilian_thrills	henry ford, who was good friends with thomas edison
[02:53]	reptilian_thrills	people believed in eugenics,
[02:53]	reptilian_thrills	they were basically like dfc
[02:54]	reptilian_thrills	but not ibm! they were just really nice people.
[02:54]	reptilian_thrills	nicer than the public by far
[02:54]	reptilian_thrills	why would ibm be so much nicer than society itself?
[02:55]	reptilian_thrills	none of which proves they were behind the holocaust, but that wasnt the the point
[02:55]	XRevan86	reptilian_thrills: #HitlerTeam ?
[02:55]	reptilian_thrills	the point was "i dont think ibm would have gone along with it if they knew they were killing people" is silly
[02:55]	reptilian_thrills	XRevan86 i dont get the reference :/
[02:55]	reptilian_thrills	is that a parody of an ibm thing?
[02:55]	XRevan86	reptilian_thrills: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PutinTeam
[02:55]	TR Bot	 PutinTeam - Wikipedia
[02:55]	reptilian_thrills	ahhh
[02:56]	reptilian_thrills	okay
[02:56]	reptilian_thrills	coca cola (also collaborted with the nazis) responded to farmers protesting by having them killed
[02:57]	reptilian_thrills	for this reason stallman wont drink cocacola
[02:57]	starstreak	thats coca cola, not ibm
[02:57]	reptilian_thrills	i hope he understands people not using gcc for the same reason
[02:57]	reptilian_thrills	so youre saying ibm is nicer than coca cola?
[02:57]	starstreak	yeah
[02:57]	reptilian_thrills	i doubt this
[02:57]	starstreak	someone who worked at ibm gave me a free laptop when i worked at a computer store
[02:57]	reptilian_thrills	ah well
[02:58]	reptilian_thrills	that means they had no meaningful part in the holocaust then
[02:58]	reptilian_thrills	you should have said 
[02:58]	starstreak	lol
[02:58]	starstreak	you don't have to be facetious 
[02:58]	reptilian_thrills	im only human
[02:58]	starstreak	oh did i tell you i have two Steven Greer books now?
[02:58]	reptilian_thrills	a free laptop shouldnt make you trust a corporation THAT much
[02:59]	reptilian_thrills	you did, thats cool
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[02:59]	reptilian_thrills	i hope roy reads them
[02:59]	reptilian_thrills	i might well do so
● Oct 28
[03:00]	reptilian_thrills	rosy employers website and greers website start with the same word
[03:00]	starstreak	Roy should make a hidden service of his site on tor
[03:00]	reptilian_thrills	i wonder if its a coincidence :)
[03:00]	reptilian_thrills	roy doesnt believe in tor
[03:00]	starstreak	because it uses encryption?
[03:00]	reptilian_thrills	he thinks everyone should expose themselves on port 80
[03:00]	reptilian_thrills	because the addresses dont work on a 1mp camera
[03:00]	starstreak	lol
[03:01]	reptilian_thrills	also because theres ssl
[03:01]	starstreak	1mp? thats too new for roy
[03:01]	starstreak	roy has a 0.5mp camera
[03:01]	starstreak	320x240
[03:01]	reptilian_thrills	i dont thnk thats even 0.5mp btw
[03:02]	starstreak	the only high quality photo of roy was taken on his friends smart phone
[03:03]	reptilian_thrills	320x240 is .07 mp i think
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[03:04]	reptilian_thrills	after hes filled the chip he sends it in the post to get processed
[03:04]	reptilian_thrills	they send jpegs to him on a usb
[03:05]	reptilian_thrills	then he converts them to pcx
[03:05]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled.
[03:05]	starstreak	roy would get better quality photos if he used a polaroid and a scanner
[03:06]	EightBallz	sssshhhhh, you'll give him ideas
[03:08]	starstreak	lol
[03:11]	reptilian_thrills	/me tries to invent a desk that takes low-res photos but comes up with an easel
[03:12]	starstreak	i like my desk better
[03:12]	starstreak	its longer
[03:13]	starstreak	it fits a big TV
[03:13]	reptilian_thrills	its amazing what technology has made possible
[03:13]	reptilian_thrills	early cave people tried to stack 6 cave walls on a table
[03:13]	reptilian_thrills	it just didnt work
[03:13]	reptilian_thrills	"we need to make them smaller somehow"
[03:13]	reptilian_thrills	"and less heavy"
[03:14]	reptilian_thrills	"we get bigger table, that help"
[03:15]	reptilian_thrills	anyway, stonehenge is what happened when roys ancestors tried to create a setup for cave painting
[03:15]	reptilian_thrills	"we did some paintings"
[03:15]	starstreak	LOL
[03:15]	reptilian_thrills	"where do we sit though"
[03:15]	starstreak	he uses the same software that they used back then
[03:16]	reptilian_thrills	it used a monolith kernel
[03:17]	reptilian_thrills	the first one
[03:17]	reptilian_thrills	"how do we run updates"
[03:17]	reptilian_thrills	"they have to write one first"
[03:18]	reptilian_thrills	flintowitz
[03:18]	reptilian_thrills	yabba certamen doo
[03:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[03:20]	starstreak	What does Roy have in common with Fred Flintstone? 
[03:20]	starstreak	the linux kernel
[03:27]	AdmFubar	https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/oct/27/elon-musk-completes-twitter-takeover
[03:28]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk reportedly fires top Twitter executives as he takes over company | Twitter | The Guardian
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[03:33]	DaemonFC	The US Treasury has no reason to want to rush to get their site up.
[03:33]	DaemonFC	If they can delay the I Bond purchase orders until tomorrow, they can pay less interest on them.
[03:40]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR2], If you look at Microsoft's stock, they
[03:41]	DaemonFC	They're down to their level at 12/27/2020.
[03:41]	DaemonFC	But when you factor in hyperinflation, they're much worse.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Nobody knows what inflation really is because you either have to take these weird figures from the government or you have to look at what things actually cost then and now, and if you look at what things cost then and now, there's no way inflation is "only" 8.7% in the past year.
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Or 5.9% in the year before that.
[03:43]	DaemonFC	Almost everything you need to survive is now 30-50% more expensive. Especially rent and major purchases.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	https://layoffstracker.com/argo-ai-shutsdown-lays-off-2000-employees/
[03:44]	TR Bot	AI Shutsdown Lays off 2000 Employees - LayoffsTracker
[03:44]	DaemonFC	mjg59_, You're next, Bubbles.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	:)
[03:46]	DaemonFC	https://pandaily.com/real-time-interactive-service-provider-agora-to-lay-off-30-of-employees/
[03:46]	TR Bot	Interactive Service Provider Agora to Lay Off 30% of Employees - Pandaily
[03:46]	DaemonFC	A San Francisco company that helps Communists brainwash school children is laying off 350.
[03:46]	DaemonFC	https://layoffstracker.com/zillow-lays-off-300-employees/
[03:46]	TR Bot	Lays off 300 Employees - LayoffsTracker
[03:47]	DaemonFC	Zillow fired 300 people whose job it was to make houses more expensive.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	https://layoffstracker.com/gofundme-lays-off-12-workforce-94-employees/
[03:47]	TR Bot	Lays off 12% Workforce 94 Employees - LayoffsTracker
[03:47]	DaemonFC	GoFundMe in San Francisco told 94 people to GoFundYourself.
[03:48]	DaemonFC	https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sypou4svi
[03:48]	TR Bot	 Fintech unicorn Fundbox fires 40% of workforce | Ctech
[03:48]	DaemonFC	A "fintech unicorn" (whatever those are) got rid of 150 in San Francisco.
[03:48]	DaemonFC	https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/s1xwokmvi
[03:48]	TR Bot	 Antidote axes a third of its employees | Ctech
[03:48]	DaemonFC	Antidote Health didn't reach the antidote in time.
[03:50]	DaemonFC	https://www.geekwire.com/2022/f5-cutting-fewer-than-100-jobs-due-to-current-macroeconomic-environment/
[03:50]	TR Bot	cutting about 100 jobs due to 'current macroeconomic environment' GeekWire
[03:50]	psydruid	the most important tech job of the future is going to be to figure out how to fire more people
[03:50]	DaemonFC	https://layoffstracker.com/cerebral-lays-off-20-of-workforce-400-employees/
[03:50]	TR Bot	Lays off 20% of Workforce 400 Employees - LayoffsTracker
[03:51]	DaemonFC	400 in San Francisco....
[03:51]	DaemonFC	https://layoffstracker.com/vacasa-lays-off-280-employees/
[03:51]	TR Bot	Lays off 280 Employees - LayoffsTracker
[03:51]	DaemonFC	Portland. What a shithole. Almost as bad as California.
[03:51]	DaemonFC	https://techcrunch.com/2022/10/24/54gene-ceo-steps-down-as-the-company-looks-to-cut-more-jobs/
[03:51]	TR Bot	CEO steps down as the company looks to cut more jobs TechCrunch
[03:51]	DaemonFC	https://layoffstracker.com/seagate-lays-off-3000-employees-8-workforce/
[03:51]	TR Bot	Lays off 3000 Employees 8% Workforce - LayoffsTracker
[03:52]	DaemonFC	Most of them in San Francisco are getting layoff notices.
[03:52]	DaemonFC	https://journalstar.com/business/local/lincoln-e-commerce-firm-lays-off-employees/article_c5ac1b58-4b41-5639-b811-13b1bbfa24e8.html
[03:52]	TR Bot	 Lincoln e-commerce firm lays off employees
[03:53]	DaemonFC	https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/e77c21af-f7a6-3262-ac33-302852cb0de1/u-s-vows-full-military.html
[03:53]	TR Bot	 U.S. vows full military capabilities including nukes to defend allies from North Korea
[03:53]	DaemonFC	Stock market failing and 10,000-15,000 layoffs per _day_ in the white collar economy, the US is the one threatening to use nukes (Putin denied any plans by Russia to use them, but it's Putin, so....).
[03:57]	reptilian_thrills	or to get them all to work for free
[03:57]	reptilian_thrills	then you dont have to fire, you can just use the terms of service
[03:58]	reptilian_thrills	"this document may change at any time"
[03:58]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jim-cramer-said-meta-shares-222445608.html
[03:58]	TR Bot	 Jim Cramer said Meta shares had nowhere else to go but up in June and now hes really sorry
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Like his advice to buy a megabank that literally failed the next day.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	Facebook will be lucky if they're not a penny stock trading OTC in the next year.
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[04:00]	DaemonFC	"Morgan Stanley downgraded Metas shares for the first time on Thursday, as did Cowen and KeyBanc Capital Markets. Morgan Stanley analysts said they expect the companys free cash flow to slump by 60% in 2023 and slashed their price target by nearly half.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	"
[04:00]	DaemonFC	LOL
[04:00]	DaemonFC	That would put "Meta" at $45 a share by the middle of next year.
[04:01]	reptilian_thrills	/me wonders who will talk at destroyyourreputationplanet this year
[04:01]	DaemonFC	$378 on 9/5/2021 to $45 in 6 months.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	You know, with hyperinflation continuing....
[04:01]	DaemonFC	This country will probably unravel by then.
[04:01]	reptilian_thrills	help prop up a fraudulent corporate power grab exploiting unpaid labour
[04:01]	reptilian_thrills	fuck, where do i sign
[04:02]	reptilian_thrills	"right here"
[04:02]	reptilian_thrills	"in blood please"
[04:02]	DaemonFC	In most countries dealing with hyperinflation, you could at least get ahold of US Dollars and use them unofficially.
[04:02]	reptilian_thrills	"oh, sorry!" *pricks finger*
[04:03]	DaemonFC	There really isn't a stable currency you can grab at right now.
[04:03]	DaemonFC	The US Treasury sold more I series savings bonds in the past week than they normally do in a year.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	They also said they had 3.8 million new accounts in the past year, where there'd only been about 2.6 million accounts created between 2010 and 12 months ago, inclusive.
[04:04]	DaemonFC	People are hoarding savings bonds.
[04:06]	DaemonFC	"Palmer Luckey, founder of VR headset maker Oculus, which then-Facebook acquired in 2014, is among many industry observers unimpressed with the companys main metaverse offering, Horizon Worlds. I dont think its a good productIts not good, its not fun, he said this week at the Wall Street Journals Tech Live conference, likening it to a project car hobby one ultimately loses money on after significant investments. 
[04:06]	DaemonFC	(Luckey was ousted from Facebook a few years after it acquired his startup._"
[04:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[05:01]	resistor	if one million accounts was worth nothing, than 10 million accounts are worth less
[05:01]	resistor	then
[05:04]	resistor	even when, let's say it was 100 million accounts, dividing by 44billion, a single account was ~400dollars
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[06:01]	DaemonFC	It makes me absolutely want to vomit that while Walmart is raising the employee Health Insurance premiums, making us pay higher deductibles, dropping some prescriptions entirely AGAIN, that they are starting to pay for this transgender shit.
[06:01]	DaemonFC	God, fuck these people to death.
[06:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[06:47]	CrystalMath	Twitter purchased by Elon Musk, tons of promises flying around, including the reversal of lifetime suspensions and open source algorithms
[06:47]	CrystalMath	he wrote "the bird is freed"
[06:48]	CrystalMath	which means well but is kinda ungrammatical
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[07:00]	resistor	there isn't any algorithms worth 44billions
[07:00]	resistor	all this is a distraction: number of accounts, algorithms, freedom of speech and whatnot
[07:01]	resistor	it is those 44billion shitcoins, and twitter who knows what, had to be de-valued by 90%
[07:01]	resistor	(skype sold for 5billion or something)
[07:18]	phanes	rofl mjg59_ is now claiming on twitter he's their new CISO
[07:18]	phanes	that guy's not going to last 6 months if it's true
[07:20]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, October 27, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
[07:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[07:20]	TR Bot	 Bulletin Archives
[07:20]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
[07:20]	TR Bot	 Techrights Full IPFS Index
[07:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	<resistor> (skype sold for 5billion or something)
[07:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	iirc, 8 in fake money
[07:29]	schestowitz[TR3]	money only "on paper"
[07:29]	schestowitz[TR3]	and then skype was added to NSA PRISM
[07:29]	schestowitz[TR3]	also immediately
[07:29]	schestowitz[TR3]	so empire can wiretap
[07:31]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D741.jpg
[07:31]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D395.jpg
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	"In October 2022 it was announced by Ford that the company would be disbanded and employees split between VW and Ford. Argos technology will be salvaged and further developed in-house by Ford and VW"
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argo_AI
[07:33]	TR Bot	 Argo AI - Wikipedia
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	Aurora next
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	I guess many fled or got laid off
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	similar bubble
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	similar sector
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	similar lies
[07:33]	schestowitz[TR3]	(false advertising)
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR3]	"Defunct2022; 0 years ago"
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR3]	0 years ago
[07:34]	schestowitz[TR3]	less than a day?
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR3]	<phanes> rofl mjg59_ is now claiming on twitter he's their new CISO
[07:36]	schestowitz[TR3]	maybe simply mean someone more senior left
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[07:36]	schestowitz[TR3]	and so it goes like, "wanna have this for a few weeks?"
[07:37]	resistor	just remember Lehman Brothers triggered a financial cascade and collapse in banking sector, and with 40billion poof for twitter alone, that's close to what to expect
[07:37]	schestowitz[TR3]	like temporarily declaring onself "the CEO" of Argo AI
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	resistor: all management fired
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	or top execs
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	too fast
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	that needs to be gradual
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	musk is a fraud 
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	and a terrible manager
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	I got corn here
[07:38]	resistor	and they're hiding that much dirt and crap in their balance sheets, those 200billion Lehmann brothers may not be nowhere near of today's bubble
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	will pop soon as twitter goes under
[07:38]	reptilian_thrills	twitter is dying
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	it is
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	actuallu
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	FB also
[07:38]	reptilian_thrills	lol
[07:38]	reptilian_thrills	i wouldnt miss either one
[07:38]	schestowitz[TR3]	yeah
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR3]	joindiaspora went first
[07:39]	phanes	schestowitz[TR3], they've had like 3 ciso's in the last 2 years
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR3]	StrongAndStable
[07:39]	reptilian_thrills	identica
[07:39]	schestowitz[TR3]	identi.caca
[07:39]	reptilian_thrills	shit like its founder
[07:40]	phanes	if they were smart they'd bring in a transformation org builder with a strong background in corp. governance as ciso 
[07:40]	phanes	but im not sure someone like that can even work for musk
[07:40]	resistor	i think the reason twitter sold took that much time is this, they can't just bust the entire bubble instantly
[07:41]	phanes	oh yeah these are textbook death thralls
[07:41]	TR News	Spies in your home https://www.maketecheasier.com/smart-home/turn-google-amazon-display-into-digital-photo-frame/
[07:41]	TR Bot	 How to Turn Your Google or Amazon Display Into a Digital Photo Frame - Make Tech Easier
[07:41]	resistor	because twitter is only a small business, almost irelevant, and there is many others to question: Netflix, FB, google, etc. etc.
[07:41]	schestowitz[TR3]	twitter barely even made a dime
[07:41]	schestowitz[TR3]	it did for 2 or 3 quarters
[07:41]	resistor	Banks offloaded that much shitcoins onto this, if something busts, that's apocalypse for US finance system
[07:41]	schestowitz[TR3]	out of like 60 quarters
[07:42]	reptilian_thrills	now it wont have to
[07:42]	reptilian_thrills	it can be a pet project for someone who can do the financial equivalent of finding loose change in the sofa
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR3]	musk will be to twitter was andrew lee become to freenode
[07:42]	schestowitz[TR3]	or trump to "truth social"
[07:42]	reptilian_thrills	then tossing it at twitter every year or two
[07:42]	phanes	nah schestowitz[TR3] gotta think of where that money went
[07:42]	phanes	it's no longer at twitter because twitter was aquired
[07:42]	phanes	everybody got out
[07:42]	reptilian_thrills	musk will be to twitter was andrew lee become to freenode <- someones never heard "a quantity becomes a quality" before
[07:43]	phanes	if twitter vaporizes tomorrow that money will still be in circulation
[07:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	what is money anyway?
[07:43]	reptilian_thrills	you make the same arguments for billionaires you do for millionaires
[07:43]	reptilian_thrills	its like the making the same arguments for aluminum and plutonium
[07:43]	reptilian_thrills	they dont work the same way
[07:43]	phanes	yeah its gonna be freenode 2.0 but musk is a little smarter than lee
[07:43]	phanes	not much though lol
[07:44]	reptilian_thrills	 what is money anyway? <- a relic
[07:44]	phanes	he's a better liar 
[07:44]	reptilian_thrills	but one with (unfortunate) power
[07:44]	phanes	im betting musk will dive and burn everybody, but i also expected musk to be facing some kind of metoo accusation at this point of the acquisition
[07:45]	TR News	HEY HI BS. Probably worthless, sold only "on paper" https://venturebeat.com/ai/usertesting-bolstering-ml-driven-ux-testing-with-1-3b-acquisition-by-sunstone-thoma-bravo/
[07:45]	TR Bot	bolstering ML-driven UX testing with $1.3B acquisition by Sunstone, Thoma Bravo | VentureBeat
[07:45]	reptilian_thrills	lee couldnt afford (time or money) to run freenode indefinitely
[07:45]	reptilian_thrills	musk could
[07:45]	phanes	huh?  it would take like 10k to restore freenode to its former glory even today
[07:45]	reptilian_thrills	its not like dorsey is some genius who was the magic behind twitter
[07:45]	reptilian_thrills	let me put it another way
[07:45]	reptilian_thrills	if YOU had musks money, YOU could run twitter for another 20 years
[07:45]	TR News	Companies like to buy [sic] other companies only to pretend to be big (to fool shareholders). They sell massively overpriced shares and then hire the staff. No money changing hands.
[07:46]	reptilian_thrills	so why cant musk? answer: no reason whatsoever
[07:46]	phanes	reptilian_thrills, sure, but neither i nor musk want to
[07:46]	reptilian_thrills	i dont even think musk should exist
[07:47]	reptilian_thrills	no one should be that rich
[07:47]	phanes	uhm, ya know what, i should be buying put options to bet against twitter like NOW
[07:47]	reptilian_thrills	but that doesnt change the fact that he does
[07:47]	reptilian_thrills	i dont even think musk should exist <- not in his 10 ten richest state
[07:47]	phanes	well also bear in mind that musk is in deep in twitter
[07:47]	reptilian_thrills	as a person, whatever
[07:47]	phanes	if this tanks and he doesn't pull out he's washed out
[07:47]	reptilian_thrills	but not like this
[07:47]	reptilian_thrills	s/10 ten/top 10/
[07:48]	reptilian_thrills	debian has sucked for 8 years and told its users "go fuck yourself and your mother too" about it
[07:48]	reptilian_thrills	and theyre still here
[07:49]	reptilian_thrills	why wouldnt twitter do the same
[07:49]	phanes	because debian is a bedrock for layers of f/oss communities
[07:49]	reptilian_thrills	why hasnt bdale garbee killed himself? 
[07:49]	reptilian_thrills	idk
[07:49]	reptilian_thrills	hes a supreme idiot
[07:49]	phanes	twitter is old and can be replicated any time by even shitty developers
[07:50]	reptilian_thrills	i hope red hat paid the fuck out of him
[07:50]	phanes	like no joke you and I could pick a language, not even a great one for the use case, and knock out a twitter clone that's scalable in like 3 months
[07:50]	phanes	where they're going to fail is governance and politics
[07:51]	phanes	the tech is easy
[07:51]	reptilian_thrills	when you think something sucks you announce its demise
[07:51]	reptilian_thrills	this is invariably the pattern
[07:51]	reptilian_thrills	yet debian sucks and its still here
[07:51]	phanes	i think debian sucks and haven't announced its demise
[07:51]	phanes	debian will probably outlive me
[07:52]	reptilian_thrills	by your logic, debian should be dead
[07:52]	phanes	no 
[07:52]	reptilian_thrills	gnome should not have survived gnome 3
[07:52]	phanes	that's not my logic
[07:52]	reptilian_thrills	why do these things die (they dont) when they suck?
[07:53]	reptilian_thrills	twitter has always sucked, why did it ever exist?
[07:53]	phanes	whatever conversation you are having, you are somehow having with me and also separately with yourself at the same time.
[07:53]	reptilian_thrills	its almost like being good isnt what makes them work in the first place
[07:53]	reptilian_thrills	and being bad has little to do with why they go away
[07:53]	reptilian_thrills	that fits the pattern (the data) better
[07:53]	phanes	sounds like you're arguing with things no one said so you can feel knowledgeable
[07:54]	reptilian_thrills	you got a phd in applied statistics (called something else though)
[07:54]	reptilian_thrills	why dont you get this? why do statistics always elude you?
[07:54]	reptilian_thrills	i mean theyre often bullshit ill give you that
[07:54]		*phanes thinks the meth has taken over
[07:55]	reptilian_thrills	but even when there are patterns that are obvious to everybody
[07:55]	reptilian_thrills	how do you end up with your own for no rhyme or reason?
[07:55]	reptilian_thrills	i can sum it up in a word: bias
[07:55]	phanes	bias isn't always bad
[07:55]	reptilian_thrills	you conflate your own bias with... everything else
[07:55]	reptilian_thrills	but thats just the pattern i notice
[07:55]	phanes	98% of the population has an IQ below what, like 132
[07:55]	TR News	 (NEW): NanoPi R6S - A Rockchip RK3588S router and mini PC with dual 2.5GbE, GbE, and... HDMI 2.1 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/NanoPi_R6S_A_Rockchip_RK3588S_router_and_mini_PC_with_dual_2_5G.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/NanoPi_R6S_A_Rockchip_RK3588S_router_and_mini_PC_with_dual_2_5G.gmi 
[07:55]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines NanoPi R6S - A Rockchip RK3588S router and mini PC with dual 2.5GbE, GbE, and... HDMI 2.1
[07:56]	TR News	 (NEW): LOLIN C3 Pico is a tiny ESP32-C3 board with battery charging support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/LOLIN_C3_Pico_is_a_tiny_ESP32_C3_board_with_battery_charging_su.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/LOLIN_C3_Pico_is_a_tiny_ESP32_C3_board_with_battery_charging_su.gmi 
[07:56]	reptilian_thrills	its not useful for figuring out when these things are actually going to stop bothering us-- nor how to get rid of them sooner
[07:56]	phanes	no its not a pattern you noticed, its some dumb point you're making to feel relevant
[07:56]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines LOLIN C3 Pico is a tiny ESP32-C3 board with battery charging support
[07:56]	reptilian_thrills	its just talk, really
[07:56]	phanes	of course it is
[07:56]	reptilian_thrills	back with coffee
[07:56]	reptilian_thrills	lol
[07:57]	phanes	in any case, yes, twitter is absolutely going to fail under musk's leadership.  he can't do what he did with tesla here and doesn't have the zuck mojo to roll with this new mode.
[07:57]	reptilian_thrills	i think a lot of your "______ is dying" arguments worked better during the dot-com bubble
[07:58]	reptilian_thrills	im sure there will be another one, too
[07:58]	phanes	companies come and go
[07:58]	phanes	so far ive been right
[07:58]	phanes	so, the data disagrees with you
[07:58]	phanes	which i suspect you've heard before
[07:58]	reptilian_thrills	right now, the main thing happening is corporations are figuring out how to create tech sweatshops in the first world, by appropriating decades of volunteer work 
[07:58]	phanes	maybe you should pick someone who doesn't win so much to have that self-affirming discussion with
[07:59]	reptilian_thrills	at least, the main thing happening within 2 degrees of c.o.l.a.
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[07:59]	schestowitz[TR3]	COLA :-)
[07:59]	schestowitz[TR3]	is that still going?
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[08:00]	phanes	ideally what i'd like to see is with the workforce largely working from home now that we see tech workers doubling up on contracts and moonlighting without it being a huge issue so they can increase their earning potential 
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR3]	and, if so, at what capacity/qualiuty?
[08:00]	reptilian_thrills	i dont know, i never cared about it
[08:00]	reptilian_thrills	but since its part of usenet, and google now has a practical monopoly on it
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR3]	it was to be fun
[08:00]	reptilian_thrills	it supports my point
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR3]	and back in the days USENET was still a thing
[08:00]	schestowitz[TR3]	before Gulag ruined newsgroups
[08:00]	reptilian_thrills	usenet, a protocol of the people
[08:00]	reptilian_thrills	i mean google
[08:01]	schestowitz[TR3]	the isps had relays for it
[08:01]	reptilian_thrills	ibm (i blame mozilla)
[08:01]	phanes	yeah people literally died of old age waiting for usenet to get deindexed again
[08:01]	reptilian_thrills	we care about freedom
[08:01]	reptilian_thrills	if you work for mozilla... kill yourselves-- bill hicks
[08:01]	phanes	that shit was never meant to be so searchable and archived like that
[08:02]	reptilian_thrills	mozilla is a marketing company with a browser, posing as a not-for-profit
[08:02]	reptilian_thrills	its a for-profit for baker
[08:02]	reptilian_thrills	its a for-profit with baker as the only shareholder
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR3]	<reptilian_thrills> mozilla is a marketing company with a browser
[08:02]	reptilian_thrills	but on paper its a non-profit, what a joke
[08:02]	phanes	compared to who?  chrome?
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR3]	it's always accident when caught
[08:02]	phanes	mozilla isn't the best browser citizen but its by far not the worst
[08:02]	schestowitz[TR3]	"mr/ robot"
[08:03]	phanes	yeah the mr robot thing was
[08:03]	phanes	that was bad
[08:03]	schestowitz[TR3]	phanes: give librewolf a try
[08:03]	reptilian_thrills	scooby dooing britney now eh
[08:03]	reptilian_thrills	youre a riot
[08:03]	phanes	i think this guy is high
[08:04]	TR News	Dirk Eddelbuettel: RcppAnnoy 0.0.20 on CRAN: Maintenance http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/blog/2022/10/27#rcppannoy_0.0.20
[08:04]	TR Bot	 Thinking inside the box
[08:05]	TR News	"Japan has been a curious country. It was more or less a colonizer and somewhat of a feared power till it dragged the U.S. unnecessarily in World War 2. The result of the two atom bombs and the restitution meant that Japan had to build again from the ground up." https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2022/10/28/shantaram-the-pyramid-japans-hikikomori-backpack/
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Shantaram, The Pyramid, Japans Hikikomori & Backpack Experiences in the community
[08:07]	phanes	lol: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/10/06/elon-musk-twitter-00060824
[08:07]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Isnt About to Light $44 Billion on Fire - POLITICO
[08:08]	TR News	The corrupted OSI is once again doing "HEY HI" (AI) nonsense sponsored by Microsoft, which borrowed the term to 'perfume' GPL violations https://blog.opensource.org/exploring-the-business-side-of-ai/ see http://techrights.org/2022/10/12/osi-soft/
[08:08]	TR Bot	 Exploring the business side of AI - Voices of Open Source
[08:08]	TR Bot	 The Open Source Initiative (OSI) Speaks for Microsoft, Which is Worse Than Before | Techrights
[08:08]	phanes	I'm just rolling about a new CISO with no fintech background trying to create governance adequate to not have a career-ending incident under his watch as the platform pivotes to become a secondary banking layer
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Opinion | Elon Musk Isnt About to Light $44 Billion on Fire  - POLITICO
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	POLITICO also sold out
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	sold to a billioanire
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	so they can relate
[08:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	some oligarchy buying "media"
[08:11]	phanes	yeah you know you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel when the most identifiable input you can get is from fucking marc benioff
[08:12]	reptilian_thrills	oligarchy buying "media" <- thats been the trend
[08:12]	reptilian_thrills	it used to be 6 companies that owned 90% of the media, now its 5
[08:12]	reptilian_thrills	including ge/third reich
[08:13]	phanes	oh it's ge now and not whatever other company you were talking about earlier
[08:13]	reptilian_thrills	people say theyre against nazis but
[08:13]	reptilian_thrills	honestly, they could do a bit more to show it
[08:13]	phanes	ge's fucking up their digital transformation too btw
[08:13]	reptilian_thrills	why does volkswagon exist? why does ibm? what does siemens? i mean, siemens is pure industry
[08:14]	phanes	their whole aviation division just tanked hard the last few years
[08:14]	reptilian_thrills	people say theyre against nazis but hugo boss is doing ok
[08:14]	reptilian_thrills	80 years later
[08:14]	phanes	i think you been watching too much captain america movies
[08:15]	phanes	hydra aint real yo
[08:15]	reptilian_thrills	nazi aeronautics and space administration
[08:15]	phanes	neither are lizard people or modern neanderthals or whatever starstreak is on about
[08:15]	reptilian_thrills	"another ppp"-- kingoffrance
[08:18]	TR News	OSI for Plagiarism/GPL Violations (Under the Guise of &#8220;Hey Hi&#8221;)... Brought to You by Microsoft | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/osi-for-plagiarism/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/28/osi-for-plagiarism/
[08:18]	TR Bot	 OSI for Plagiarism/GPL Violations (Under the Guise of Hey Hi) Brought to You by Microsoft | Techrights
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[08:22]	resistor	almost missed that one, in februrary 2022 Facebook poofed a total of 200billion shitcoins at stock exchange
[08:23]	resistor	that's close to the amount of what Lehmann Brothers had to write-off, which triggered a financial collapse cascade in the banking system
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[08:26]	TR News	Burning Twitter to the ground, FAST https://itsubuntu.com/elon-musk-fired-twitter-ceo-parag-agrawal/
[08:26]	TR Bot	Musk Fired Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal | Itsubuntu.com
[08:28]	TR News	"If we look at several Democracy and Press Freedom Rankings, India presents a shrinking civic space and funding for investigative and critical journalism. Such activity almost seems to be criminalized." https://internetfreedom.in/starting-impolite-conversations-foecon-2022/
[08:28]	TR Bot	 Starting impolite conversations #FoECon 2022
[08:29]	TR News	"The second panel, in an interesting format, discussed court stories - with cases of criminal defamation, copyright infringement, lapses in criminal procedure, and use of draconian penal provisions as a means to curb personal liberty." https://internetfreedom.in/starting-impolite-conversations-foecon-2022/
[08:34]	TR News	 (NEW): 7 Best Open Source Web-based Email Clients http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/7_Best_Open_Source_Web_based_Email_Clients.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/7_Best_Open_Source_Web_based_Email_Clients.gmi 
[08:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 7 Best Open Source Web-based Email Clients
[08:36]	TR News	John O'Donnell VPN spam for VPN vendor. This is Webspam (inside the link) https://www.linuxlinks.com/vpn-linux-install-best/ linuxlinks back to selling out (fake 'articles'). So sad...
[08:36]	TR Bot	for Linux: How to pick & install the best one - LinuxLinks
[08:39]	TR News	A fun little bug hunt gemini://gemini.hitchhiker-linux.org/gemlog/a_fun_little_bug_hunt.gmi
[08:40]	TR News	Write documentation like you develop code | https://opensource.com/article/22/10/docs-as-code Source: Open Source Initiative | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//opensource.com/article/22/10/docs-as-code
[08:40]	TR Bot	documentation like you develop code | Opensource.com
[08:41]	reptilian_thrills	the eu needs to be stabbed through the heart if its going to keep raping the internet
[08:41]	reptilian_thrills	this is ridiculous. youre not china, you know?
[08:41]	TR News	"So epic bacon man owns Twitter now, and I'm basically watching to see what's going to happen, and how much of that heap of a trash fire is going to get worse. Locked the account and everything. Awful. Not that I've used twitter a lot." gemini://officialdonut.smol.pub/1666924041
[08:41]	reptilian_thrills	france didnt build enough guillotines, because apparently it still exists
[08:42]	reptilian_thrills	the fuck is europe actually good for anyway?
[08:42]	TR News	Bugs? In my house? gemini://kalechips.smol.pub/2022-10-27-crickets
[08:43]	TR News	Choosing Void Linux gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~lettuce/void.gmi
[08:43]	TR News	Notes on Installing Void Linux gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~lettuce/installing-void.gmi
[08:47]	TR News	Browser for BS artists https://news.itsfoss.com/impervious-browser/
[08:47]	TR Bot	 A New Web Browser For P2P Internet Experience With Secure Messaging and Bitcoin Lightning Network
[08:47]	reptilian_thrills	i miss europe, actually. i imagine some of them do too, since i guess its been replaced with an endless raging festival of suck
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[08:48]	reptilian_thrills	still enough culture left to look down on the rest of the world
[08:48]	reptilian_thrills	hey, i can tell you how that works out.
[08:49]	TR News	Military contractor Red Hat lectures us on "ethics" this morning https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/president-ethics-reporting-provider-day-life see http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/red-hat-lockheed-martin-raytheon/
[08:49]	TR Bot	 President of an ethics reporting provider: A day in the life | The Enterprisers Project
[08:49]	TR Bot	 Red Hat is Bragging, Knowing That Its Killing People for Profit With Raytheon and Lockheed Martin (Thats Not Freedom, Its Death) | Techrights
[08:49]	reptilian_thrills	look at dr sixel over there
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[09:07]	resistor	still waiting for a response from EPA (environmental protection agency germany), to whom i proposed to design and implement reporting of environmental data with related tooling
[09:07]	resistor	reports and protocols, including graphs and illustrations rendered into sixels (and conversion to Epson raw bitmap) for environmentally friendly plotting
[09:09]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 27, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/irc-log-271022/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/28/irc-log-271022/
[09:10]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Thursday, October 27, 2022 | Techrights
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[09:24]	TR News	"This week, TUXEDO launched two variations of their latest InfinityBook Pro 16 laptop built around the i7-12700H Intel core processor." https://linuxgizmos.com/tuxedo-computers-releases-infinitybook-pro-16-gen7-laptop/ | Source: Linux Gizmos
[09:24]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/tuxedo-computers-releases-infinitybook-pro-16-gen7-laptop/ )
[09:24]	resistor	a required software stack for this, would be minimal
[09:25]	TR News	"Brief: In this guide, we explore how to install QEMU/KVM on Ubuntu in order to create virtual machines" https://www.tecmint.com/install-qemu-kvm-ubuntu-create-virtual-machines/ | Source: TecMint
[09:25]	TR Bot	 How to Create Virtual Machines in Ubuntu Using QEMU/KVM Tool
[09:25]	TR News	"How do you see the contents of a folder in the Linux terminal? You use the ls command." https://linuxhandbook.com/dir-command/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[09:25]	TR Bot	 Dir Command in Linux [Examples]
[09:26]	TR News	"Members of the openSUSE Projects release team are asking community to help the YaST team with early testing of the installer images." https://news.opensuse.org/2022/10/27/call-for-testing-next-gen-installer/ | Source: OpenSUSE
[09:26]	TR Bot	 Call for Testing Next Generation Installer - openSUSE News
[09:27]	TR News	"Backports repository is useful for Ubuntu users who want newer versions of certain software packages (including development tools, hardware drivers) only available in the newer OS" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/how-to-install-packages-from-ubuntu-backports-repository.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[09:27]	TR Bot	 How To Install Packages from Ubuntu Backports Repository
[09:29]	resistor	three weeks, german railway didn't respond to my letter yet
[09:30]	TR News	"The backdrop-filter property allows you to apply CSS filters to the area behind an element." https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/100daysof-day24/ | Source: Manuel Matuzovic
[09:30]	TR Bot	 Day 24: the backdrop-filter property - Manuel Matuzovi
[09:30]	TR News	"Thats great when authors provide IDs, but in many cases they do not." https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/scroll-to-text-fragments/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
[09:30]	TR Bot	 Scroll to Text Fragments - Jim Nielsens Blog
[09:30]	TR News	"Unlike four-pair cable which has a distance limitation of 100 meters, 10BASE-T1L SPE offers 1000-meters." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/5472 | Source: SparkFun Electronics
[09:30]	TR Bot	Single Pair Ethernet by Graphics - News - SparkFun Electronics
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[09:34]	schestowitz	EUs road away from fossil cars
[09:34]	schestowitz	  gemini://idiomdrottning.org/fossil-cars
[09:34]	TR News	Dependencies gemini://idiomdrottning.org/dependencies
[09:34]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.gmi 
[09:34]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
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[09:36]	TR News	"Today I would like to show you the implementation of the first userspace driver for Helios: a simple serial driver." https://drewdevault.com/2022/10/27/Kernel-hacking-with-Hare-part-3.html | Source: Drew DeVault
[09:36]	TR Bot	 Notes from kernel hacking in Hare, part 3: serial driver
[09:37]	TR News	"If you havent heard of Matter before, lets do a quick rundown: Matter, previously known as Project Chip" https://everythingsmarthome.co.uk/why-you-should-care-about-matter-smart-home/ | Source: Everything Smart Home
[09:37]	TR Bot	 Why You Should(n't) Care About Matter For Your Smart Home
[09:37]	TR News	"On a recent Internet of Things Podcast episode, we took a question from our Voicemail hotline from Alan about the connected devices in his vacation home." https://staceyoniot.com/how-to-give-guests-control-of-smart-devices-in-a-vacation-home/ | Source: Stacey on IoT
[09:37]	TR Bot	 How to give guests control of smart devices in a vacation home - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis
[09:38]	TR News	Gadgetry and Gimmickry is not "assistant" but another burden to maintain, set aside pay for...
[09:39]	TR News	"The Arduino Nano has 20 available digital I/O pins and Trevor needed two of them for a serial connection." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/10/27/control-six-separate-rgb-led-strips-with-a-single-arduino-nano/ | Source: Arduino
[09:39]	TR Bot	 Control six separate RGB LED strips with a single Arduino Nano | Arduino Blog
[09:47]	TR News	"Valve has finally done what a lot have been waiting for, made the Steam Deck UI available for desktops although it's only available in the Steam Client Beta for now" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/steam-deck-ui-comes-to-desktop-in-beta-to-replace-big-picture-mode/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:47]	TR Bot	Deck UI comes to Desktop in Beta to replace Big Picture Mode | GamingOnLinux
[09:47]	TR News	"Here is an absolutely huge open source release! VKD3D-Proton, the translation tech used in Steam Play Proton to translate Direct3D 12 to Vulkan for Steam Deck / Linux version 2.7 is out" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/direct3d-12-to-vulkan-translator-vkd3d-proton-version-27-out-now/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:47]	TR Bot	12 to Vulkan translator VKD3D-Proton version 2.7 out now | GamingOnLinux
[09:47]	TR News	"Anyone else remember Dark Reign: The Future of War? Released back in 1997, it's a real classic and at the time it had some pretty favourable reviews too" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/dark-reign-the-future-of-war-a-true-classic-rts-is-being-remade-in-openra/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:47]	TR Bot	Reign: The Future of War, a true classic RTS is being remade in OpenRA | GamingOnLinux
[09:48]	TR News	"Harmony's Odyssey from developer MythicOwl is a 3D fantasy adventure puzzle game set on mythical dioramas full of riddles" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/wonderful-looking-puzzle-adventure-harmonys-odyssey-lands-on-linux-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:48]	TR Bot	looking puzzle adventure Harmony's Odyssey lands on Linux / Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux
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[09:58]	TR News	"Sounding a bit like Vagrus - The Riven Realms, we have the upcoming game Sandwalkers from Goblinz Studio and the new prologue demo Sandwalkers: The Fourteenth Caravan." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/guide-a-convoy-through-a-ruined-world-in-the-sandwalkers-prologue-demo/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:58]	TR Bot	a convoy through a ruined world in the Sandwalkers prologue demo | GamingOnLinux
[09:58]	TR News	"This is pretty great, and a nice way to pull more people into The International 2022. Valve are giving out a bunch of freebies for all Dota 2 players." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/valve-giving-out-a-free-dota-2-swag-bag-with-battle-pass-dota-plus-and-more/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:58]	TR Bot	giving out a free Dota 2 Swag Bag with Battle Pass, Dota Plus and more | GamingOnLinux
[09:58]	TR News	"Ready for another point and click adventure? McPixel 3, yes they skipped the number 2, is heading to Linux and Steam Deck on November 14th." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/comedy-adventure-mcpixel-3-releases-november-14th/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[09:58]	TR Bot	adventure McPixel 3 releases November 14th | GamingOnLinux
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[10:07]	TR News	Azure layoffs, collapse https://siliconangle.com/2022/10/25/microsofts-stock-slides-azure-cloud-growth-engine-stalls/
[10:07]	TR Bot	stock slides as Azure cloud growth engine stalls - SiliconANGLE
[10:08]	TR News	"For those of you that continue to prefer GOG for your gaming needs, they're now having a big Halloween Sale" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/get-a-free-copy-of-genesis-alpha-one-during-the-gog-halloween-sale/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:08]	TR Bot	a free copy of Genesis Alpha One during the GOG Halloween Sale | GamingOnLinux
[10:08]	TR News	"Two important pieces of info today for both players and game developers" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/valve-finally-clears-up-steam-game-release-dates-also-adjusts-pricing/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:08]	TR Bot	finally clears up Steam game release dates, also adjusts pricing | GamingOnLinux
[10:08]	TR News	"After having and playing with the official Steam Deck Docking Station, here's some thoughts on the experience." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/thoughts-on-the-official-steam-deck-docking-station/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[10:08]	TR Bot	on the official Steam Deck Docking Station | GamingOnLinux
[10:09]	TR News	data https://www.etf.europa.eu/en/news-and-events/news/without-data-youre-just-another-person-opinion-w-edwards-deming
[10:09]	TR Bot	 'Without data, youre just another person with an opinion', W. Edwards Deming | ETF
[10:10]	TR News	Techs Biggest Companies Are Sending Worrying Signals About the Economy - The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/technology/economy-facebook-google.html Source: New York Times | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/technology/economy-facebook-google.html
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Techs Biggest Companies Are Sending Worrying Signals About the Economy - The New York Times
[10:10]	TR News	old: spacex https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/09/science/spacex-satellites-storm.html
[10:10]	TR Bot	 Geomagnetic Storm Destroys 40 New SpaceX Satellites in Orbit - The New York Times
[10:15]	TR News	windows tco https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&u=https://www.is.fi/digitoday/art-2000009164568.html https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&u=https://poliisi.fi/sv/-/en-person-haktad-i-sin-franvaro-i-samband-med-dataintranget-mot-vastaamo
[10:15]	TR Bot	 Vastaamon epilty tietomurtaja on Julius Kivimki - Digitoday - Ilta-Sanomat
[10:15]	TR Bot	 En person hktad i sin frnvaro i samband med dataintrnget mot Vastaamo - Polisen
[10:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[10:21]	TR News	"The Play Store probe will look at whether threats by Google to pull apps from its Play Store" https://itwire.com/government-tech-news/technology-regulation/google-says-play-store-targeted-by-eu-anti-trust-probe.html | Source: IT Wire
[10:21]	TR Bot	- Google says Play Store targeted by EU anti-trust probe
[10:21]	TR News	"Alphabet (GOOGL.O) unit Google's Google Play Store is the target of an EU antitrust investigation" https://www.reuters.com/technology/google-appeal-android-fine-europes-top-court-2022-10-27/ | Source: Reuters
[10:21]	TR Bot	Play in EU antitrust sights as Android fine appeal pending | Reuters
[10:21]	TR News	Digital Restrictions (DRM) infestation https://uapi-group.org/ |
[10:21]	TR Bot	 The Linux Userspace API (UAPI) Group | The Linux Userspace API Group
[10:22]	TR News	"The Carrington event was the most intense solar storm ever recorded." https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/scientists-find-evidence-rare-solar-storm-that-could-destroy-internet-1707989 | Source: International Business Times
[10:22]	TR Bot	 Scientists find evidence of rare solar storm that could destroy internet
[10:28]	TR News	"US State Department spokesman Ned Price appears to have forgotten that his country's government is pursuing WikiLeaks founder and publisher Julian Assange over publishing material that has embarrassed Washington." https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/us-official-forgets-about-assange-case,-advocates-freedom-of-expression.html | Source: IT Wire
[10:28]	TR Bot	- US official forgets about Assange case, advocates freedom of expression
[10:28]	TR News	[Old] "The latest report by Penny Abernathy, Knight Chair in Journalism and Digital Media Economics at the UNC Hussman School of Journalism and Media" https://citap.unc.edu/local-news-platforms-mis-disinformation/ |
[10:28]	TR Bot	 Addressing the decline of local news, rise of platforms, and spread of mis- and disinformation online - Center for Information, Technology, and Public Life (CITAP)
[10:28]	TR News	[Old] "News deserts are not a new phenomenon." https://localnewsinitiative.northwestern.edu/posts/2022/08/30/filling-gaps-in-local-news/index.html |
[10:29]	TR Bot	 A Path Forward | Local News Initiative
[10:29]	TR News	"Parag Agrawal, chief financial officer Ned Segal and Vijaya Gadde" https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/10/27/twitter-elon-musk/ | Source: The Washington Post
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Twitter deal closes, CEO fired - The Washington Post
[10:30]	TR News	"Twitter did not immediately reply to a request for comment on the departure of its top executives" https://today.rtl.lu/news/business-and-tech/a/1984908.html | Source: RTL
[10:30]	TR Bot	 RTL Today - World's richest man: Elon Musk takes control of Twitter, fires executives
[10:30]	TR News	Twitter dead hastened https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63402338 | Source: BBC
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk completes $44bn Twitter takeover - BBC News
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[10:30]	TR News	"Musk has not provided much detail about how he might rewrite Twitters rulebook" https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/elon-musk-twitter-deal-closes-making-musk-new-owner-rcna54084 | Source: NBC
[10:30]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk now leading Twitter, ushering in likely changes to online speech
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[10:31]	TR News	"Musk hasnt disclosed his plans for Twitter in much detail" https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3708424-musk-officially-closes-twitter-deal-reports/ | Source: The Hill
[10:31]	TR Bot	 Musk officially closes Twitter deal: reports | The Hill
[10:31]	TR News	"It is still unclear how Musk will finance the deal." https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/27/elon-musk-now-in-charge-of-twitter-ceo-and-cfo-have-left-sources-say.html | Source: CNBC
[10:31]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk now in charge of Twitter, CEO and CFO have left, sources say
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[10:31]	TR News	"Online retail giant Amazon has been buffeted in after-hours trading" https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/amazon-joins-tech-giants-in-taking-a-beating-after-3q-results.html | Source: IT Wire
[10:31]	TR Bot	- Amazon joins tech giants in taking a beating after 3Q results
[10:32]	TR News	"Yarvins fascist enthusiasms have migrated into the mainstream right thanks largely to the support of billionaire PayPal cofounder and original Facebook backer Peter Thiel" https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/curtis-yarvin/ | Source: The Nation
[10:32]	TR Bot	 The Reactionary Prophet of Silicon Valley | The Nation
[10:32]	TR News	"Representatives for Twitter did not respond to requests for comment." https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/elon-musk-closes-twitter-deal-fires-ceo-cfo-1235416656/ | Source: Variety
[10:32]	TR Bot	Musk Closes Twitter Deal, Fires CEO, CFO and Other Senior Execs - Variety
[10:33]	TR News	"The closing of the deal, which followed months of drama and legal challenges as Mr. Musk" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/technology/elon-musk-twitter-deal-complete.html | Source: New York Times
[10:33]	TR Bot	 Elon Musk Completes $44 Billion Deal to Own Twitter, Fires CEO and CFO - The New York Times
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[10:33]	TR News	"Mr. Musk is the face of 21st-century tech-based, extreme capitalism, just as the robber barons" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/opinion/elon-musk-twitter-purchase-robber-baron.html | Source: New York Times
[10:33]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Elon Musk Is Buying Twitter. Shudder. - The New York Times
[10:34]	TR News	"Mr. Musk has in recent months emerged as a new, chaotic actor on the stage of global politics." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/technology/elon-musk-geopolitics-china-ukraine.html | Source: New York Times
[10:34]	TR Bot	 How Elon Musk Became a Geopolitical Chaos Agent - The New York Times
[10:34]	TR News	"The plan will also guide the sector in assessing current cybersecurity standards over the next 100 days." https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3705395-white-house-unveils-cyber-plan-for-chemical-sector/ | Source: The Hill
[10:34]	TR Bot	 White House unveils cyber plan for chemical sector | The Hill
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[10:42]	TR News	"It claimed the media company had downplayed the incident" https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/thomson-reuters-leaves-terabytes-of-data-exposed-on-web-report.html | Source: IT Wire
[10:42]	TR Bot	- Thomson Reuters leaves terabytes of data exposed on Web: report
[10:43]	TR News	"But who is this for? What are the implications of using these new technologies in the workplace?" https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/digital-security/metaverse-as-future-workplace-triggers-questions-on-privacy-safety-surveillance/95120754 | Source: India Times
[10:43]	TR Bot	 Metaverse as future workplace triggers questions on privacy, safety & surveillance, CIO News, ET CIO
[10:43]	TR News	"Meta, the parent company of Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram, has seen US$800 billion (A$1.24 trillion)" https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/facebook-parent-meta-sees-$123b-in-market-value-wiped-after-bad-3q.html | Source: IT Wire
[10:43]	TR Bot	- Facebook parent Meta sees US$800b in market value wiped after bad 3Q
[10:43]	TR News	"Russian President Vladimir Putin meanwhile said at a policy conference in Moscow on Thursday that his country had no intention of using nuclear weapons in Ukraine, suggesting it was speculation. Mr. Putin again framed the worsening friction between Russia and the U.S." https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-says-it-could-target-u-s-commercial-satellites-in-ukraine-war-11666882614?mod=hp_lead_pos9 | Source: The Wall Street Journal
[10:43]	TR Bot	Says It Could Target U.S. Commercial Satellites in Ukraine War - WSJ
[10:44]	TR News	"The spoiler is that this is the 'HTML attachment presented as a PDF attachment' phish that I talked about yesterday." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SecurityItsOurOwnFault | Source: uni Toronto
[10:44]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/SecurityItsOurOwnFault
[10:46]	TR News	[Old] "Since the release of systemd in 2010 the project has been getting a continuous and steady stream of new features and added capabilities." https://www.unixsheikh.com/articles/systemd-isnt-safe-to-run-anywhere.html | Source: Unix Sheikh
[10:46]	TR Bot	 systemd isn't safe to run anywhere
[10:46]	TR News	"Apple continues to squeeze its largest apps advertisers on Facebook or Twitter that purchase boosts for posts will be taxed at the 30% rate." https://matt-rickard.com/apples-ads-positioning | Source: Matt Rickard
[10:46]	TR Bot	 Apple's Ad Positioning
[10:47]	TR News	"But as it stands, there are several reasons why I can only use my iPad as a temporary laptop stand-in." https://www.pcworld.com/article/1362761/why-the-ipad-still-cant-replace-my-laptop.html | Source: PC World
[10:47]	TR Bot	the iPad still can't replace my laptop | PCWorld
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[10:50]	TR News	[Old] "As a result, I think its important we talk about Social Capital." https://jrsinclair.com/articles/2020/remote-work-and-the-half-life-of-social-capital/ |
[10:50]	TR Bot	 Remote teams and the half-life of social capital
[10:50]	TR News	"I wonder if the EU law works somewhat in Apples favour here. Apple were clearly already on a journey to USB-C with the rest of their products." https://chrishannah.me/the-iphone-will-switch-to-usb-c/ | Source: Chris Hannah
[10:50]	TR Bot	 The iPhone Will Switch To USB-C
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[10:52]	TR News	Shell Script Best Practices https://sharats.me/posts/shell-script-best-practices/ |
[10:52]	TR Bot	 Shell Script Best Practices The Sharat's
[10:52]	TR News	[Old] "The print function is most likely the first function we encounter when learning Python." https://sharats.me/posts/python-print-function/ |
[10:52]	TR Bot	 The Python `print` function The Sharat's
[10:52]	TR News	"The first Python community I ever participated in was that of the Zope and Plone developers and I remember from that time on how they occasionally organized sprints for a few days to work together on internal issues." https://www.paulox.net/2022/10/26/about-my-proposal-for-the-django-core-sprints/ | Source: Paolo Melchiorre
[10:52]	TR Bot	 pauloxnet - About my proposal for the Django Core Sprints
[10:53]	TR News	"Why not have both, fast and correct?" https://matt-rickard.com/the-inner-dev-loop | Source: Matt Rickard
[10:53]	TR Bot	 The Inner Dev Loop
[10:54]	TR News	"I have spent the last few years programming often in C++." https://lemire.me/blog/2022/10/26/book-review-template-metaprogramming-with-c/ | Source: Daniel Lemire
[10:54]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://lemire.me/blog/2022/10/26/book-review-template-metaprogramming-with-c/ )
[10:55]	TR News	"Weve now written this code five different ways." https://jrsinclair.com/articles/2022/what-if-the-team-hates-my-functional-code/ |
[10:55]	TR Bot	 What if the team hates my functional code?
[10:55]	TR News	"On the Keyword Generics Initiative we spend a lot of time talking about, well, keyword generics!" https://blog.yoshuawuyts.com/const-syntax/ | Source: Yoshua Wuyts
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Const Syntax
[10:55]	TR News	"By default, computer programs are executed sequentially, usually line-by-line." https://earthly.dev/blog/concurrency-in-go/ | Source: Earthly
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Concurrency in Go - Earthly Blog
[10:55]	TR News	"A numerical matrix holding the values to be plotted can be passed." https://datasciencetut.com/the-pheatmap-function-in-r/ |
[10:55]	TR Bot	 Thepheatmapfunction in R - Data Science Tutorials
[10:57]	TR News	"Videos from EuroBSDcon 2022 now available" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20221027232308 | Source: Undeadly
[10:57]	TR Bot	 Videos from EuroBSDcon 2022 now available.
[10:58]	TR News	"Chrome tracing (aka Chromium tracing) lets you record a performance trace that captures low-level details" https://nolanlawson.com/2022/10/26/a-beginners-guide-to-chrome-tracing/ | Source: Nolan Lawson
[10:58]	TR Bot	 A beginners guide to Chrome tracing | Read the Tea Leaves
[10:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 12.68 k/sec., IPFS upstream 102.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.81
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[11:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): GStreamer, GNOME, systemd update in Tumbleweed http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/GStreamer_GNOME_systemd_update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/GStreamer_GNOME_systemd_update_in_Tumbleweed.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GStreamer, GNOME, systemd update in Tumbleweed
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): SMTP, OrangeWebsite and using your own computing resources http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/SMTP_OrangeWebsite_and_using_your_own_computing_resources.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/SMTP_OrangeWebsite_and_using_your_own_computing_resources.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines SMTP, OrangeWebsite and using your own computing resources
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Running a law firm on Linux - a year or so in http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Running_a_law_firm_on_Linux_a_year_or_so_in.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Running_a_law_firm_on_Linux_a_year_or_so_in.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Running a law firm on Linux - a year or so in
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Global Encryption Day - Highlighting Some Free Software / Open Source Contributions http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Global_Encryption_Day_Highlighting_Some_Free_Software_Open_Sour.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Global_Encryption_Day_Highlighting_Some_Free_Software_Open_Sour.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Global Encryption Day - Highlighting Some Free Software / Open Source Contributions
[11:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Web Browsers: Impervious, Chrome, and Firefox http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Web_Browsers_Impervious_Chrome_and_Firefox.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Web_Browsers_Impervious_Chrome_and_Firefox.gmi 
[11:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Web Browsers: Impervious, Chrome, and Firefox
[11:37]	TR News	 (NEW): Games: Steam Deck UI, Vulkan, Harmony's Odyssey, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Games_Steam_Deck_UI_Vulkan_Harmony_s_Odyssey_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Games_Steam_Deck_UI_Vulkan_Harmony_s_Odyssey_and_More.gmi 
[11:37]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Games: Steam Deck UI, Vulkan, Harmony's Odyssey, and More
[11:45]	TR News	"If youre new to teaching programming or looking to build or refresh your programming knowledge" https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/learn-to-program-in-python-online-courses-for-teachers/ | Source: Raspberry Pi
[11:45]	TR Bot	 Learn to program in Python with our online courses - Raspberry Pi
[11:48]	TR News	"Lua isn't an object-oriented programming language, but a scripting language utilizing C functions and a C-like syntax." https://opensource.com/article/22/10/object-oriented-lua | Source: OpenSource.com
[11:48]	TR Bot	Lua into becoming an object-oriented language | Opensource.com
[11:49]	TR News	After Install Guide for Ubuntu 22.10 with Apps and Games Recommendations https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2022/10/after-install-guide-for-ubuntu-2210-with-apps-and-games-recommendations.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz
[11:49]	TR Bot	 After Install Guide for Ubuntu 22.10 with Apps and Games Recommendations
[11:59]	TR News	Emergency Broadband Benefit https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/27/surprise-big-telecom-ripped-off-a-broadband-subsidy-program-for-low-income-americans/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:59]	TR Bot	Big Telecom Ripped Off A Broadband Subsidy Program For Low Income Americans | Techdirt
[11:59]	TR News	hertz https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/27/yet-another-renter-sues-hertz-after-he-and-his-teen-daughter-were-held-at-gunpoint-by-cops-following-a-bogus-theft-report/ | Source: Techdirt
[11:59]	TR Bot	Another Renter Sues Hertz After He And His Teen Daughter Were Held At Gunpoint By Cops Following A Bogus Theft Report | Techdirt
● Oct 28
[12:01]	TR News	"Joint Research Agreement" https://www.desmog.com/2022/10/28/unimib-eni-research-marco-grasso-resigns/ | Source: DeSmog
[12:01]	TR Bot	Resigns from Research Center Over Partnership with Oil and Gas Major Eni - DeSmog
[12:01]	TR News	A Steam Engine For Empty Beer Cans https://hackaday.com/2022/10/27/a-steam-engine-for-empty-beer-cans/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:02]	TR Bot	Steam Engine For Empty Beer Cans | Hackaday
[12:02]	TR News	"Web design has come a long way since those halcyon days of Web 1.0." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/27/a-collection-of-websites-that-look-like-desktops/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:02]	TR Bot	Collection Of Websites That Look Like Desktops | Hackaday
[12:04]	TR News	Social control media https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/27/donald-trump-tells-the-supreme-court-that-social-media-is-a-common-carrier-never-mentions-his-own-social-media-site/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:04]	TR Bot	Trump Tells The Supreme Court That Social Media Is A Common Carrier; Never Mentions His Own Social Media Site | Techdirt
[12:05]	TR News	"fair use" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/27/justice-thomas-still-likes-prince-on-thursdays-and-what-that-means-for-the-future-of-fair-use/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:05]	TR Bot	Thomas Still Likes Prince On Thursdays, And What That Means For The Future Of Fair Use | Techdirt
[12:05]	TR News	ohio https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/27/ohio-supreme-court-tells-cops-they-cant-hide-all-their-use-of-force-reports-under-investigatory-records-exemption/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:05]	TR Bot	Supreme Court Tells Cops They Cant Hide All Their Use Of Force Reports Under Investigatory Records Exemption | Techdirt
[12:08]	TR News	ExxonMobil https://www.propublica.org/article/california-oil-wells-shell-exxonmobil | Pro Publica needs to disclose that it bags BRIBES from Shell and ExxonMobil profiteer Bill Gates
[12:08]	TR Bot	 Shell and ExxonMobil Are Selling 23,000 Oil Wells in California ProPublica
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[12:09]	TR News	DRM https://www.techdirt.com/2022/10/27/anti-cheat-software-continues-to-be-the-new-drm-in-pissing-off-legit-customers/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:09]	TR Bot	Software Continues To Be The New DRM In Pissing Off Legit Customers | Techdirt
[12:09]	TR News	Thousands of teachers https://telex.hu/english/2022/10/27/thousands-of-teachers-didnt-take-up-work-in-hungary-on-thursday | Source: Telex (Hungary)
[12:10]	TR Bot	 Telex: Thousands of teachers didnt take up work in Hungary on Thursday according to Teachers' Unions
[12:17]	TR News	The corrupted OSI is once again doing "HEY HI" (AI) nonsense sponsored by Microsoft, which borrowed the term HEY HI to 'perfume' GPL violations at unprecedented scale http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/osi-for-plagiarism/
[12:17]	TR Bot	 OSI for Plagiarism/GPL Violations (Under the Guise of Hey Hi) Brought to You by Microsoft | Techrights
[12:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:20]	TR News	Ubuntu continues expanding RISC-V support now, Sipeed The Register http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/Canonical_enables_Ubuntu_on_Sipeed_s_LicheeRV_RISC_V_board.shtml
[12:20]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Canonical enables Ubuntu on Sipeeds LicheeRV RISC-V board
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[12:24]	TR News	Alexandra Arici: we take bribe to post FAKE 'reviews': "This is a sponsored article and was made possible by SwitchBot." https://www.maketecheasier.com/review/switchbot-curtain-rod2/
[12:24]	TR Bot	 SwitchBot Curtain Rod 2 Review - Make Tech Easier
[12:26]	TR News	"Raptor Lake RAPL support is the same as previous Sky Lake. Add Raptor Lake model for RAPL." https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tip/tip.git/commit/?id=eff98a7421b3ee73d62268115ffa5bfc0ba94544
[12:26]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/tip/tip.git - Unnamed repository; edit this file 'description' to name the repository.
[12:27]	TR News	 (UPDATED): Canonical enables Ubuntu on Sipeeds LicheeRV RISC-V board http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/Canonical_enables_Ubuntu_on_Sipeed_s_LicheeRV_RISC_V_board.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/25/Canonical_enables_Ubuntu_on_Sipeed_s_LicheeRV_RISC_V_board.gmi 
[12:33]	TR News	Inflation https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/27/you-cant-fight-inflation-even-more-giveaways-rich | Source: Common Dreams
[12:33]	TR Bot	 Opinion | You Can't Fight Inflation With Even More Giveaways to the Rich | Sonali Kolhatkar
[12:33]	TR News	Scam economy https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/10/27/european-oil-giants-report-obscene-profits-millions-face-deadly-energy-crisis | Source: Common Dreams
[12:33]	TR Bot	 European Oil Giants Report 'Obscene' Profits as Millions Face Deadly Energy Crisis
[12:36]	TR News	This "inflation" is man-made https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/10/27/price-gouging-corporations-helping-drive-inflation-must-be-held-accountable | Source: Common Dreams
[12:36]	TR Bot	 Opinion | Price-Gouging Corporations Helping Drive Inflation Must Be Held Accountable | Lindsay Owens
[12:39]	TR News	"Public health experts in the United States are warning of a possible tripledemic of respiratory illness this winter" https://www.democracynow.org/2022/10/27/respiratory_syncytial_virus_rsv_tripledemic_covid | Source: Democracy Now
[12:39]	TR Bot	 Childrens Hospitals See Surge in RSV as Experts Warn of Winter Tripledemic of Respiratory Illness | Democracy Now!
[12:40]	TR News	"anti-union" https://truthout.org/articles/labor-officials-say-amazon-ceos-anti-union-comments-violated-federal-labor-law/ | Source: TruthOut
[12:40]	TR Bot	 Labor Officials Say Amazon CEOs Anti-Union Comments Violated Federal Labor Law
[12:49]	TR News	"Youve seen M.2 cards in modern laptops already." https://hackaday.com/2022/10/27/m-2-for-hackers-expand-your-laptop/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:49]	TR Bot	For Hackers Expand Your Laptop | Hackaday
[12:50]	TR News	Solar Supercap Power Supply https://hackaday.com/2022/10/27/a-solar-supercap-power-supply-to-keep-your-projects-running/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:50]	TR Bot	Solar Supercap Power Supply To Keep Your Projects Running | Hackaday
[12:52]	TR News	Working against its own country https://truthout.org/articles/wall-street-shrugs-off-biden-and-reaffirms-commitment-to-saudi-monarchy/ | Source: TruthOut
[12:52]	TR Bot	 Wall Street Shrugs Off Biden and Reaffirms Commitment to Saudi Monarchy
[12:55]	TR News	Twitter is going to die ... soon (already getting a LOT smaller) https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/27/why-is-elon-musk-taking-twitter-private/ | Source: Scheerpost
[12:55]	TR Bot	is Elon Musk Taking Twitter Private? - scheerpost.com
[12:55]	TR News	Global South https://scheerpost.com/2022/10/27/how-can-the-global-south-escape-the-austerity-trap/ | Source: Scheerpost
[12:55]	TR Bot	Can the Global South Escape the 'Austerity Trap'? - scheerpost.com
[12:56]	TR News	"The Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment" https://torrentfreak.com/copycat-pirate-site-owner-surrenders-48-domains-movies-not-included-221027/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[12:56]	TR Bot	Pirate Site Owner Surrenders 48 Domains (Movies Not Included) * TorrentFreak
[12:56]	TR News	DMCA https://torrentfreak.com/booted-from-github-tiktok-pirate-streaming-site-wishflix-attempts-comeback-221027/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[12:56]	TR Bot	From GitHub & TikTok, Pirate Streaming Site WishFlix Attempts Comeback * TorrentFreak
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 25.88 k/sec., IPFS upstream 85.85 average k/sec., average swarm size 122.90
[12:59]	TR News	30 years of UNESCO Memory of the World https://creativecommons.org/2022/10/27/cc-celebrates-30-years-of-unesco-memory-of-the-world/ | Source: Creative Commons
[12:59]	TR Bot	 CC celebrates 30 years of UNESCO Memory of the World - Creative Commons
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[13:04]	TR News	"Where are we now?" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/delicacy-of-the-crisis-of-the-us-dollar-lessons-from-the-meltdown-in-britain/ | Source: Counter Punch
[13:04]	TR Bot	of the Crisis of the US dollar: Lessons From the Meltdown in Britain - CounterPunch.org
[13:06]	TR News	Chelsea, Manning Up https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/chelsea-manning-up/ | Source: Counter Punch
[13:06]	TR Bot	Manning Up - CounterPunch.org
[13:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[13:26]	TR News	Eric Schmidt https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/eric-schmidt-a-conflict-of-interest/ | Source: Counter Punch
[13:26]	TR Bot	Schmidt: A Conflict of Interest - CounterPunch.org
[13:34]	TR News	Filming Gear... "Shooting good video can be an arduous task if youre working all by yourself" https://hackaday.com/2022/10/28/gesture-controlled-filming-gear-works-super-intuitively/ | Source: Hackaday
[13:34]	TR Bot	Controlled Filming Gear Works Super Intuitively | Hackaday
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[13:45]	TR News	"But keep in mind that Sunak backed Brexit. He voted to leave the EU, even without a withdrawal agreement. That is one reason why Steve Baker and many Brexit leaders gave him decisive backing last weekend." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/rishi-sunak-and-britains-post-brexit-fairy-tales/
[13:45]	TR Bot	Sunak and Britain's Post-Brexit Fairy Tales - CounterPunch.org
[13:46]	TR News	"The devastating impact of Brexit was highlighted this month by Mark Carney, who was for seven years head of the Bank of England." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/rishi-sunak-and-britains-post-brexit-fairy-tales/
[13:47]	TR News	"He may get a sympathy vote as he inherits deep problems, but he shares in responsibility for creating them in the first place." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/rishi-sunak-and-britains-post-brexit-fairy-tales/
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[14:13]	TR News	Links 28/10/2022: Fedora Delays Release, KDE e.V. Board Election | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/fedora-delays-release/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/28/fedora-delays-release/
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Links 28/10/2022: Fedora Delays Release, KDE e.V. Board Election | Techrights
[14:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Programming_Leftovers.gmi 
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Programming Leftovers
[14:13]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_leftovers.gmi 
[14:13]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[14:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[14:22]	TR News	 (NEW): A New KDE Control Centre Widget Inspired by iOS http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/A_New_KDE_Control_Centre_Widget_Inspired_by_iOS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/A_New_KDE_Control_Centre_Widget_Inspired_by_iOS.gmi 
[14:22]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines A New KDE Control Centre Widget Inspired by iOS
[14:31]	TR News	 (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.1.gmi 
[14:31]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Today in Techrights
[14:32]	TR News	 (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Android_Leftovers.gmi 
[14:32]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Android Leftovers
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[14:38]	psydruid	https://www.semianalysis.com/p/arm-changes-business-model-oem-partners
[14:38]	TR Bot	 Arm Changes Business Model OEM Partners Must Directly License From Arm
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	arm is not the solution
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	risc is
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	and risc-v for example
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	and mips
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	but arm is not the worst, either
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	i know the person who pioneered it
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	i worked for his group as a student
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	and he was a good friend of my phd mentor
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	furber
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	but the company is not controlled by jhim anymore
[14:44]	psydruid	it's also fairly straightforward to port (assembly) code from one risc architecture to another
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	but workaholic japanese
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	I think with saudi money, too
[14:44]	schestowitz[TR3]	psydruid: did you do that?
[14:44]	psydruid	yes
[14:45]	schestowitz[TR3]	when we stufdied assemble we did 8- and 16-bit
[14:45]	psydruid	from arm to risc-v and power
[14:45]	schestowitz[TR3]	that was 22 yesrs ago
[14:45]	schestowitz[TR3]	*Assembly
[14:45]	psydruid	from 2 years ago till now
[14:45]	psydruid	the first time was from x86 to arm
[14:45]	schestowitz[TR3]	maybe michael will fall in love with arm when they shill "protected content"
[14:45]	psydruid	all 64-bit
[14:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	secured [sic] from the trustzone
[14:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	for education 64-bit is hard
[14:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	like doing bubblesort with long instruction sets
[14:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	processors in general are a mess now
[14:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	very hard tro master
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	predictive computations
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	and caching
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	and many other factors
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	so lots of defective chips
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	in a 12-month period the same research groups can find like 20 flaws
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	in pairs or triplets at the time
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	and then the "fixes" further clutter the now-inelegant designs
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	like lots of duct tape
[14:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	in microcode
[14:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	because the silicon is one heck of a cluster*ck
[14:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	better to go to simple cores
[14:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	and make more of them
[14:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	and make sofwtare less "fat"
[14:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	instead of cushioning fat software with more gates and transitors
[14:49]	schestowitz[TR3]	if we could fly to the moon  with very few megabytes, why not now?
[14:49]	psydruid	many of the instruction set extensions are just meant for evergreening patents rather than for enabling more efficient processing
[14:49]	schestowitz[TR3]	yeah, that's another facet
[14:49]	psydruid	like intel enabling avx-512 and then disabling it again
[14:49]	schestowitz[TR3]	20-year expiry windows
[14:49]	schestowitz[TR3]	multimedia codecs are like that too
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	MPEG was made intentionally less efficient
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	just so they can squeeze more software patents on it
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	throw away the chips
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	start afresh
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	or with some simple base
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	and do it right this timer
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	can take time and money
[14:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	but be conservative what you add to it
[14:51]	schestowitz[TR3]	same for some software
[14:51]	schestowitz[TR3]	refeactor or go back to basics
[14:51]	schestowitz[TR3]	make "smart" phones that need charging once a week at most
[14:54]	TR News	wc is NOT "Linux command", Red Hat. In your systems it's a GNU program. https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-wc-command
[14:54]	psydruid	I think risc-v has got things mostly right
[14:54]	TR Bot	 3 surprising things you can do with the Linux wc command | Enable Sysadmin
[14:55]	psydruid	maybe at the expense of somewhat less powerful instructions
[14:55]	psydruid	but it can be taken forward to create risc-vi, when that is needed
[14:56]	TR News	Poorly written, badly researched https://kifarunix.com/what-are-the-differences-between-linux-and-windows/ Source: Kifarunix | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//kifarunix.com/what-are-the-differences-between-linux-and-windows/
[14:56]	TR Bot	Are the Differences Between Linux and Windows? - kifarunix.com
[14:58]	TR News	"This week's newsletter focuses on improving your Vim skill and introducing new open source projects." https://news.itsfoss.com/foss-weekly-22-40/
[14:58]	TR Bot	 FOSS Weekly #22.40: Vanilla OS, Impervious Browser, Vim Guides and More
[14:58]	TR News	Association of Facebook Use With Compromised Well-Being https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/in-case-you-forgot-it-five-years-ago-a-facebook-study.../
[14:58]	TR Bot	 In case you forgot it, five years ago a Facebook study... | Stop at Zona-M
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● Oct 28
[15:00]	schestowitz[TR3]	psydruid: any objective docs on the specs (ins set, clock speed) that's not marketing like wikipedia/spampedia?
[15:00]	TR News	btrfs: auto enable discard=async when possible https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/kdave/linux.git/commit/?h=for-next&id=4d542835e8d1e43282c83c1a0395b209bdadd475
[15:00]	TR Bot	 kernel/git/kdave/linux.git - Btrfs kernel development
[15:00]	psydruid	schestowitz[TR3], everything about the ISA itself is on Shithub
[15:01]	psydruid	I've only read http://riscvbook.com/ so far
[15:01]	TR Bot	 The RISC-V Reader: An Open Architecture Atlas
[15:01]	TR News	"We should consider discard=asyncby default on all baremetal installations; and coordinate with upstream about making it a default there too." https://pagure.io/fedora-btrfs/project/issue/6
[15:01]	TR Bot	#6: enable discard=async by default - project - Pagure.io
[15:02]	TR News	x86_64: Implement evex512 version of strchrnul, strchr and wcschr https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=59e501f204fa196d6571b523459ba528bbef7783
[15:02]	TR Bot	Git - glibc.git/commit
[15:03]	schestowitz[TR3]	psydruid:  so miss redmond outsourced the designs to redmond
[15:03]	psydruid	indeed
[15:05]	TR News	zink: support KERNEL shaders https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/19327/diffs
[15:05]	TR Bot	 zink: support KERNEL shaders (!19327) Merge requests Mesa / mesa GitLab
[15:06]	TR News	"OctoPrint 3D is a free and open source software released under the Affero General Public License (AGPL)." https://medevel.com/octoprint/
[15:06]	TR Bot	 OctoPrint 3D Printer Interface
[15:07]	TR News	OpenPose: Open-source Real-time Multi-person Key point and Pose Detection Program https://medevel.com/openpose/
[15:07]	TR Bot	 OpenPose: Open-source Real-time Multi-person Key point and Pose Detection Program
[15:08]	TR News	Misguided and unprincipled? https://taming-libreoffice.com/2022/10/libreoffice-on-the-microsoft-store/
[15:08]	TR Bot	 LibreOffice on the Microsoft Store Taming LibreOffice
[15:09]	TR News	Canonical: we're good at buzzwords and use them to compensate for a lack of technical substance https://ubuntu.com//blog/industry-4-part-ii
[15:09]	TR Bot	IT/OT convergence in Industry 4.0 [Part II] | Ubuntu
[15:10]	TR News	Ewww... Microsoft systemd + SAP proprietary crap. SUSE's vision is... UNINSPIRING. https://www.suse.com/c/let-it-fly-sap-hana-suse-cluster-systemd-native-integration/
[15:10]	TR Bot	it fly - SAP HANA on SUSE cluster and systemd native integration
[15:11]	TR News	FreeIPA authentication improvements and Fedora Infrastructure part 1 https://vda.li/en/posts/2022/10/28/FreeIPA-Authentication-Improvements-and-Fedora-Infra/ Source: ALEXANDER BOKOVOY | https://vda.li/en/posts/2022/10/28/FreeIPA-Authentication-Improvements-and-Fedora-Infra-2/
[15:11]	TR Bot	 FreeIPA authentication improvements and Fedora Infrastructure part 1
[15:11]	TR Bot	 FreeIPA authentication improvements and Fedora Infrastructure part 2
[15:12]	TR News	Microsoft is a clown-first company. This week: the clown ain't performing. Just bear with us as we try hard to find MOAR things to RE-classify as "CLOWN"
[15:14]	MinceR	28 154327 < schestowitz[TR3]> arm is not the solution
[15:14]	MinceR	28 154329 < schestowitz[TR3]> risc is
[15:14]	MinceR	ARM _is_ a RISC architecture
[15:15]	XRevan86	ish
[15:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[15:24]	TR News	"Ventoy makes booting any ISO as simple as drag-and-drop. You can't beat that. Especially when you're an avid distro-hopper, want a device that can boot into arbitrary ISOs, or need to boot into a one-off live environment!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=H11xOadG7Qk
[15:24]	TR Bot	 This is the LAST boot drive you'll EVER need! - Invidious
[15:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	risc is not the company
[15:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	arm is
[15:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	we studied mips back in the days
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[15:26]	TR News	"A sneak preview of the most anticipated horror movie of the season. There are insane people all around us, but what if it was contagious?" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=k35uDHs7Z9E
[15:26]	TR Bot	 A Disturbing Descent Into The Mind Of A Mad Man - Invidious
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[15:27]	TR News	"I love GNU/Linux, but the distributions for desktop systems isnt fun to navigate. Its the reason why I havent done a Distro review in a year or more." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=KT0m9DM8moc
[15:27]	TR Bot	 Why I Hate MOST Linux Distributions - Invidious
[15:28]	TR News	"If you're in charge of maintaining servers and related equipment, what should you monitor? While monitoring is something that will grow and expand over time, Jay and Joao will give you some tips in this episode to get you started." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vJ4CmBel-08
[15:28]	TR Bot	 Enterprise Linux Security Episode 46 - Monitoring - Invidious
[15:36]	MinceR	RISC is not a company
[15:38]	TR News	How to protect yourself from coercive Aadhaar-Voter ID linking https://internetfreedom.in/how-to-protect-yourself-from-coercive-aadhaar-voter-id-linking/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/aadhar-uidai-cyber-spying-cia-wikileaks-report-cross-match-technologies-1032343-2017-08-27
[15:38]	TR Bot	 How to protect yourself from coercive Aadhaar-Voter ID linking
[15:38]	TR Bot	 Wikileaks report claims CIA may access Aadhaar card details, government denies - India Today
[15:38]	TR News	 (NEW): Videos: GNU, Ventoy, Hated Distributions, and Enterprise Linux Security http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Videos_GNU_Ventoy_Hated_Distributions_and_Enterprise_Linux_Secu.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Videos_GNU_Ventoy_Hated_Distributions_and_Enterprise_Linux_Secu.gmi 
[15:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Videos: GNU, Ventoy, Hated Distributions, and Enterprise Linux Security
[15:38]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.2.gmi 
[15:38]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[15:40]	TR News	Critical Vulnerability in Open SSL - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/critical-vulnerability-in-open-ssl.html Source: Bruce Schneier | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/10/critical-vulnerability-in-open-ssl.html
[15:40]	TR Bot	Vulnerability in Open SSL - Schneier on Security
[15:40]	TR News	Security updates for Friday https://lwn.net/Articles/912873/
[15:40]	TR Bot	updates for Friday [LWN.net]
[15:41]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/raspberry-robin-operators-selling.html http://techrights.org/wiki/Microsoft_and_the_NSA
[15:41]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Robin Operators Selling Cybercriminals Access to Thousands of Endpoints
[15:41]	TR Bot	 Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights
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[15:42]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22100157
[15:42]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/qcv0g99trzq91.jpg created on 2022-10-01 22:49:06.518766
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[15:44]	TR News	Microsoft TCO: "This includes a web shell called reGeorg, which has been put to use by other actors like APT28, DeftTorero, and Worok, and a never-before-seen malware dubbed Danfuan, which is engineered to execute received C# code." https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/researchers-uncover-stealthy-techniques.html
[15:44]	TR Bot	 Researchers Uncover Stealthy Techniques Used by Cranefly Espionage Hackers
[15:46]	TR News	Many "Apps" are just malware. Gulag Play is full of it. https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/these-dropper-apps-on-play-store.html
[15:46]	TR Bot	 These Dropper Apps On Play Store Targeting Over 200 Banking and Cryptocurrency Wallets
[15:47]	TR News	My name is Michael Larabel and I'm being sent $1000 laptops to run de facto ads for them https://www.phoronix.com/review/tuxedo-os-1
[15:47]	TR Bot	OS Delivering Some Performance Gains Over Ubuntu 22.04 LTS - Phoronix
[15:49]	TR News	Jupiter Broadcasting conflates proprietary github with "Open Source". Than again... Jupiter Broadcasting
[15:49]	TR News	Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesnt Care About GNU/Linux and Now Its Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) http://techrights.org/2020/05/29/jupiter-broadcasting/
[15:49]	TR Bot	 Microsoft-Connected CloudGuru Doesnt Care About GNU/Linux and Now Its Gradually Killing the BSD/Linux-Centric Jupiter Broadcasting (Bought by Linux Academy) | Techrights
[15:53]	TR News	Phoronix: ooooh shiny Microsoft! Let's link to proprietary github and give publicity to unwanted FS that is poorly maintained https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-exFAT-Progs-1.2
[15:53]	TR Bot	exFAT Programs v1.2 Allows Repairing Corrupted Filesystems - Phoronix
[15:54]	TR News	"Smart" phone addicts: wooooo! look how thin my phone is... and it only needs charging 3 times per day!!! Let's carry this heavy car battery-sized garbage to the trip to keep it charged. https://www.the-diy-life.com/bluetti-ac200max-portable-power-station-unboxing-review/
[15:54]	TR Bot	 Bluetti AC200MAX Portable Power Station - Unboxing & Review - The DIY Life
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[15:56]	TR News	Red Hat reputation laundering today: "Red Hat pledged one bicycle to World Bicycle Relief" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/pedal-empower Red Hat: we also BOMB people http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/red-hat-lockheed-martin-raytheon/
[15:56]	TR Bot	 Pedal to empower
[15:56]	TR Bot	 Red Hat is Bragging, Knowing That Its Killing People for Profit With Raytheon and Lockheed Martin (Thats Not Freedom, Its Death) | Techrights
[15:58]	TR News	"704 packages fail to build from source" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2022-43/ ICBM: want to volunteer as our slave and solve RHEL bugs for free?
[15:58]	TR Bot	 Friday's Fedora Facts: 2022-43 Fedora Community Blog
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[15:59]	TR News	Come donate your time as a serf of ICBM: "Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (or EPEL) is a Fedora Special Interest Group that creates, maintains, and manages a high quality set of additional packages for Enterprise Linux, including, but not limited to, Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)" https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-43-2022/
[15:59]	TR Bot	 CPE Weekly Update Week 43 2022 Fedora Community Blog
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[16:03]	TR News	CPE Weekly Update Week 43 2022 - Fedora Community Blog https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-43-2022/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//communityblog.fedoraproject.org/cpe-weekly-update-week-43-2022/
[16:04]	resistor	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lb13ynu3Iac
[16:04]	TR Bot	 J. Robert Oppenheimer: "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." - Invidious
[16:04]	TR News	 (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Security_Leftovers.gmi 
[16:04]	resistor	https://www.afgsc.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2366141/plant-42-gears-up-spirit-of-pennsylvania-for-next-mission/
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Security Leftovers
[16:05]	TR News	 (NEW): Red Hat and Fedora http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Red_Hat_and_Fedora.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Red_Hat_and_Fedora.gmi 
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Plant 42 gears up Spirit of Pennsylvania for next mission > Air Force Global Strike Command AFSTRAT-AIR > Article Display
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Red Hat and Fedora
[16:05]	TR News	 (NEW): Updated antiX-sid iso files available http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Updated_antiX_sid_iso_files_available.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Updated_antiX_sid_iso_files_available.gmi 
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Updated antiX-sid iso files available
[16:06]	TR News	"Today I stumbled across someone mentioning FydeOS, and alternative to ChromeOS. Recalled briefly looking at it sometime ago, decided worth another look..." https://bkhome.org/news/202210/fydeos-alternative-to-chromeos-works-on-pcs.html
[16:06]	TR Bot	 FydeOS alternative to ChromeOS works on PCs
[16:07]	TR News	"I went back to 1.Sketch, 2.Color Flat, 3.Shading, 4.Paint-Over. Discipline." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article937/introduce-the-dragon-to-the-outside-world
[16:07]	TR Bot	 Introduce the Dragon to the Outside World - David Revoy
[16:09]	TR News	openSUSE Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2022/43 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) https://dominique.leuenberger.net/blog/2022/10/opensuse-tumbleweed-review-of-the-week-2022-43/
[16:09]	TR Bot	 openSUSE Tumbleweed Review of the week 2022/43 Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*)
[16:17]	TR News	Linux Around The World: USA - Kansas - LinuxLinks https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-kansas/ Source: Linux Links | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.linuxlinks.com/linux-usa-kansas/
[16:17]	TR Bot	Around The World: USA - Kansas - LinuxLinks
[16:19]	TR News	 (NEW): KDE neon 22.04 ISO is available to download http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/KDE_neon_2204.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/KDE_neon_2204.gmi 
[16:19]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines KDE neon 22.04 ISO is available to download
[16:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[16:25]	starstreak	linucks btw
[16:34]	TR News	"In other words, I could save money, and we could easily not send a dishwasher to the dumpster, exactly because that dishwasher is one of those that still have all of the good, real innovation (=standard size and panel connectors) and none of the dumb, fake, wash your dishes through the cloud kind." https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/thanks-heaven-my-sisters-dishwasher-is-not-smart/
[16:34]	TR Bot	 Thanks heaven my sister's dishwasher is NOT smart | Stop at Zona-M
[16:34]	TR News	"Many cookies have perfectly legitimate, privacy-respecting uses, and many very useful online services would not work without them. Still, remember those figures, the next time anybody tries to sell you the myth that cyberspace or online advertising are immaterial. And do read the report for more disturbingly fascinating details." https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/the-not-so-hidden-pollution-of-online-advertising/
[16:34]	TR Bot	 The not-so hidden pollution of online advertising | Stop at Zona-M
[16:35]	TR News	IFF's Statement on the notified IT Rules Amendment, 2022 https://internetfreedom.in/iff-statement-on-the-notified-it-rules-amendment-2022/ Source: Internet Freedom Foundation | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//internetfreedom.in/iff-statement-on-the-notified-it-rules-amendment-2022/
[16:35]	TR Bot	 IFF's Statement on the notified IT Rules Amendment, 2022
[16:36]	TR News	[Rant] The broken capitalist web, yet another example gemini://gmi.bacardi55.io/gemlog/2022/10/28/broken-web-yet-another-example/
[16:37]	TR News	ytfzf - Youtube from the terminal gemini://foobucket.xyz/gemlog/2022-10-28-ytfzf_-_Youtube_from_the_terminal.gmi
[16:38]	TR News	ALL 3 latest posts in linuxtechlab are SPAM. Webspam is a pandemic too.
[16:39]	TR News	Internet of SHIT (IOS) was a bad idea all along. Security means rejecting this cult of gadgets. https://www.fosslife.org/white-house-announces-iot-security-initiative
[16:39]	TR Bot	 White House Announces IoT Security Initiative
[16:40]	TR News	2 Best Alternatives to Docker Desktop GUI Dashboard https://www.how2shout.com/linux/2-best-alternatives-to-docker-desktop-gui-dashboard/ Source: H2S Media | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.how2shout.com/linux/2-best-alternatives-to-docker-desktop-gui-dashboard/
[16:40]	TR Bot	 2 Best Alternatives to Docker Desktop GUI Dashboard
[16:42]	TR News	"The issues have been addressed in Junos OS versions 19.1R3-S9, 19.2R3-S6, 19.3R3-S7, 19.4R3-S9, 20.1R3-S5, 20.2R3-S5, 20.3R3-S5, 20.4R3-S4, 21.1R3-S2, 21.3R3, 21.4R3, 22.1R2, 22.2R1, and later." https://thehackernews.com/2022/10/high-severity-flaws-in-juniper-junos-os.html
[16:42]	TR Bot	 High-Severity Flaws in Juniper Junos OS Affect Enterprise Networking Devices
[16:42]	starstreak	oooooooooo
[16:42]	starstreak	firefox 160.0.2
[16:43]	psydruid	version inflation
[16:43]	TR News	 (NEW): Software: Containers, LibreOffice, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Software_Containers_LibreOffice_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Software_Containers_LibreOffice_and_More.gmi 
[16:43]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Software: Containers, LibreOffice, and More
[16:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	"modern"
[16:43]	starstreak	yes
[16:43]	starstreak	the .2 adds even more modernness to it
[16:43]	schestowitz[TR3]	Firefox 1337. Sounds legit.
[16:45]	starstreak	brb
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[16:45]	MinceR	Firefox 9082.160.9.469.31337.858.23.34.1234.0.5
[16:46]	MinceR	because adding numbers is more useful than supporting ALSA.
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[16:47]	starstreak	XRevan86, [britney@archbtw ~]$ uname -r
[16:47]	starstreak	6.0.5-arch1-1
[16:47]	TR News	"VMware has released security updates to address multiple vulnerabilities in VMware Cloud Foundation. A remote attacker could exploit one of these vulnerabilities to take control of an affected system." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/28/vmware-releases-security-updates
[16:47]	TR Bot	 VMware Releases Security Updates | CISA
[16:47]	XRevan86	starstreak: It was only a matter of time.
[16:48]	starstreak	:)
[16:48]	starstreak	Even more modern(TM)
[16:48]	TR News	Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/28/joint-cisa-fbi-ms-isac-guide-responding-ddos-attacks-and-ddos
[16:48]	TR Bot	 Joint CISA FBI MS-ISAC Guide on Responding to DDoS Attacks and DDoS Guidance for Federal Agencies | CISA
[16:48]	starstreak	they skipped 6.0.3 and 6.0.4
[16:48]	XRevan86	6.0.4 existed for a day.
[16:48]	XRevan86	In general that is.
[16:48]	starstreak	lol
[16:49]	starstreak	those of us who ride the bleeding edge are making linux better for everyone
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[16:49]	MinceR	it's easier to inflate version numbers if you skip numbers
[16:49]	MinceR	no, you're not
[16:49]	XRevan86	s/day/hour/
[16:49]	MinceR	in the world of CLOSED WONTFIX, testing doesn't help
[16:49]	XRevan86	6.0.5 is a hotfix.
[16:49]	MinceR	and the suits that occupied Linux don't care about bugs being fixed
[16:49]	XRevan86	https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v6.x/ChangeLog-6.0.5 literally two commits
[16:49]	starstreak	i mean arch skipped 6.0.3 and 6.0.4
[16:50]	MinceR	they're people who got rid of Torvalds because he blocked their beloved kdbus from being merged
[16:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	<starstreak> the .2 adds even more modernness to it
[16:51]	XRevan86	starstreak: I got that, I'm pointing out that it's impossible not to skip 6.0.4.
[16:52]	starstreak	XRevan86, fair enough
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[16:52]	schestowitz[TR3]	means two severe bugs between one official releas eand the next
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[16:52]	starstreak	schestowitz[TR3], i was making a joke
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[16:52]	psydruid	https://tweakers.net//files/upload/71776a9c-ee79-4c5c-947b-f7e98cf40bcc.pdf.pdf
[16:53]	starstreak	psydruid, .pdf.pdf.exe
[16:53]	psydruid	Qualcomm's complaint
[16:53]	psydruid	lol
[16:53]	TR News	What if we want to create NFTs that are not just about who has the most money, and that actually try to signal something else? https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/nfts-the-problems-we-do-not-need-to-have/
[16:53]	TR Bot	 NFTs, the problems we do not need to have | Stop at Zona-M
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[16:54]	starstreak	XFACE!
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[16:55]	MinceR	pdf.pdf.scr
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[16:57]	TR News	Djalel Oukid posting VPN SPAM. The WWW is becoming a junkyard of webspam. https://www.linuxtechmore.com/2022/10/purevpn-review.html
[16:57]	TR Bot	 VPN battles: PureVPN Linux review. Does it deserve a second chance?
[16:57]	TR News	 (NEW): Everything You Need To Know About Open Source Network Monitoring Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Everything_You_Need_To_Know_About_Open_Source_Network_Monitorin.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Everything_You_Need_To_Know_About_Open_Source_Network_Monitorin.gmi 
[16:57]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Everything You Need To Know About Open Source Network Monitoring Tools
[16:57]	schestowitz[TR3]	scr.face
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 24.03 k/sec., IPFS upstream 87.30 average k/sec., average swarm size 98.26
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[17:00]	starstreak	https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/27/the_gnome_project_is_closing/
[17:00]	TR Bot	 The GNOME Project is closing all its mailing lists The Register
[17:01]	MinceR	they don't need communications like that anyway
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR3]	"modern"
[17:01]	MinceR	dehomag management can just tell them what to do
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR3]	more holes
[17:01]	starstreak	they're switching from mailing lists to discourse
[17:02]	MinceR	if necessary, they'll use mailing lists in MICROS~1 exchange
[17:02]	MinceR	or lotus notes
[17:02]	schestowitz[TR3]	ICBM cannot do mail
[17:02]	MinceR	that never stopped MICROS~1 either
[17:02]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://www.theregister.com/2021/06/30/ibm_email_outage/
[17:02]	TR Bot	 IBM's 18-month company-wide email system migration has been a disaster, sources say The Register
[17:03]	TR News	 (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi 
[17:03]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines Gemini Articles of Interest
[17:03]	MinceR	exchange and lookout are both absolute train wrecks yet suits love them
[17:03]	starstreak	daemonfc loves outlook.com
[17:06]	MinceR	maybe he likes being told that he has unread mail that will never be actually listed unless he reloads the page
[17:08]	starstreak	he uses thunderbird
[17:08]	MinceR	thunderbird doesn't support this "feature"
[17:09]	MinceR	it probably also doesn't support MAPI
[17:09]	TR News	md-toc version 8.1.5 (beta) released on 28 October 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Md-toc
[17:09]	TR Bot	 Md-toc - Free Software Directory
[17:09]	MinceR	even its notion of POP3 and IMAP probably follows the standard, which MICROS~1 code never does
[17:09]	MinceR	MICROS~1 has trouble even following "standards" they wrote, like OOXML
[17:09]	TR News	Reproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 225 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-225-released/
[17:09]	TR Bot	 diffoscope 225 released
[17:10]	starstreak	i think he should use evolution instead, then he can use the exchange protocol which has contact and calander sync
[17:10]	TR News	Istio / Announcing Istio 1.15.3 https://istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.15.x/announcing-1.15.3/ Source: | Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//istio.io/latest/news/releases/1.15.x/announcing-1.15.3/
[17:10]	TR Bot	 Istio / Announcing Istio 1.15.3
[17:10]	MinceR	and he can waste even more CPU on RAM on an even more broken client
[17:10]	starstreak	personally, im waiting for JMAP to become popular
[17:11]	TR News	How to Set Up a LOMP Stack on Ubuntu Server - Make Tech Easier https://www.maketecheasier.com/set-up-lomp-stack-ubuntu-server/ Source: Make Tech Easier | "Linux, OpenLiteSpeed, MariaDB (or MySQL), and PHP stack server (LOMP)."
[17:11]	starstreak	evolution on my system only uses 68MB ram, less than thunderbird
[17:11]	TR Bot	 How to Set Up a LOMP Stack on Ubuntu Server - Make Tech Easier
[17:11]	starstreak	thunderbird is a browser trying to be a mail client
[17:11]	psydruid	evolution used to break itself for me
[17:11]	MinceR	and even if evolution managed to implement MAPI the way MICROS~1 did (as opposed to the way MICROS~1 documented it), MICROS~1 probably broke it in the next release of exchange anyway
[17:12]	TR News	"How do they celebrate and respect diversity?" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/10/interview-green-flags
[17:12]	TR Bot	 Interview tips: 9 'green flags' to watch for | The Enterprisers Project
[17:12]	psydruid	so I switched to thunderbird and never looked back
[17:12]	MinceR	"DOS ain't done till Lotus won't run"
[17:12]	starstreak	psydruid, im currently using 3.46.1 from arch linux's gnome unstable repo, hasn't crashed yet
[17:12]	TR News	Red Hat celebrates diversity with Raytheon and Lockheed Martin http://techrights.org/2022/10/27/red-hat-lockheed-martin-raytheon/
[17:12]	TR Bot	 Red Hat is Bragging, Knowing That Its Killing People for Profit With Raytheon and Lockheed Martin (Thats Not Freedom, Its Death) | Techrights
[17:13]	psydruid	starstreak, I haven't used it in nearly 20 years and am not going to start using it now either, but if it works for you that's great
[17:14]	starstreak	psydruid, i used thunderbird like 20 years ago, if it works for you thats great :D
[17:14]	TR News	"Red Hat OpenShift sandboxed containers, based on the Kata Containers open source project, provide an Open Container Initiative (OCI)-compliant container runtime using lightweight virtual machines (VMs) running your workloads in their own isolated kernel. This contributes an additional layer of isolation to Red Hats defense-in-depth strategy." https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/openshift-sandboxed-containers
[17:14]	TR Bot	 Learn about Red Hat OpenShift sandboxed containers
[17:14]	psydruid	it does and it does its job, which is great for me 
[17:15]	psydruid	I also have 32 GB of RAM, so I have problems in that respect
[17:15]	starstreak	niiiice :D
[17:15]	starstreak	i wish i had that much ram
[17:15]	starstreak	i got 16GB
[17:15]	MinceR	a/U on R/U and R/
[17:15]	psydruid	no*
[17:17]	psydruid	people with old computers should upgrade more often, so they can run evolution and thunderbird side by side
[17:17]	MinceR	lol
[17:17]	starstreak	LOL XD
[17:17]	MinceR	why not "upgrade" to an email client implemented on top of electron?
[17:17]	MinceR	then it could be even heavier.
[17:17]	psydruid	yeah
[17:18]	MinceR	or just run lookout
[17:18]	starstreak	wine outlook.exe
[17:18]	TR News	openSUSE Tumbleweed - Review of the week 2022/43 - Dominique a.k.a. DimStar (Dim*) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/GStreamer_GNOME_systemd_update_in_Tumbleweed.shtml
[17:18]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines GStreamer, GNOME, systemd update in Tumbleweed (UPDATED)
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[17:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[17:20]	TR News	Media Rec: Shining Girls gemini://themby.smol.pub/2022-10-28
[17:21]	TR News	Installing DTail on OpenBSD gemini://foo.zone/gemfeed/2022-10-30-installing-dtail-on-openbsd.gmi
[17:23]	TR News	Star Log 2022-10-27 (Fairbanks, Alaska, US) gemini://gem.librehacker.com/gemlog/starlog/20221028-0.gmi
[17:23]	TR News	SpellBinding TFGILNC Wordo: GAZES gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-10-28.gmi
[17:30]	TR News	When Gitlab.com collapses (the company always makes losses) you might be able to recover your repos with CE. But not with GitHub. Microsoft loses money there, it'll shut it down one day, no outward migration route (it's propriety). Think AHEAD.
[17:32]	TR News	Links 28/10/2022: Diffoscope 225 Released and Updated antiX-sid ISO | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/updated-antix-sid-iso/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/28/updated-antix-sid-iso/
[17:32]	TR Bot	 Links 28/10/2022: Diffoscope 225 Released and Updated antiX-sid ISO | Techrights
[17:33]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi 
[17:33]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's leftovers
[17:36]	TR News	Rowing the oceans https://www.mancity.com/citytv/mens/jamie-carr-joshua-bugajski-phil-foden-city-in-the-community-63802461
[17:36]	TR Bot	 Jamie Carr gets Olympic advice ahead of Atlantic row
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[17:43]	starstreak	hey reptilian_thrills 
[17:44]	reptilian_thrills	hi
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[18:38]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> why not "upgrade" to an email client implemented on top of electron?
[18:38]	DaemonFC	<MinceR> then it could be even heavier.
[18:38]	DaemonFC	"secure apps"
[18:39]	DaemonFC	I was telling schestowitz[TR3] that I had to fake a user agent for a minor version of Thunderbird 102 that's not even out yet (102.12) to get Google to go away and quit kicking out SeaMonkey Mail as an "insecure app", causing it to lose all of my mail.
[18:42]	DaemonFC	Seems like Intel's breaking something monthly now, like Microsoft does with Windows. Not even bothering to test their stinking patches. Letting them get backported to other kernels where the error can propagate and make it to more users.
[18:42]	XRevan86	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/27/entertainment/kanye-west-hitler-album/index.html
[18:42]	TR Bot	 Kanye West has a disturbing history of admiring Hitler, sources tell CNN | CNN
[18:42]	DaemonFC	https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg4563256.html
[18:42]	TR Bot	 [PATCH 6.0.y] Revert "ALSA: hda: Fix page fault in snd_hda_codec_shutdown()" Linux Kernel
[18:43]	DaemonFC	This ended up being the offending patch that caused my audio devices to disappear in 6.0.x kernels. So they revert again and my laptop behaves normally, until next time.
[18:43]	reptilian_thrills	https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/27/entertainment/kanye-west-hitler-album/index.html
[18:43]	DaemonFC	They can't be bothered to test hardware they still had on the market this year.
[18:44]	reptilian_thrills	i feel bad (not very) for kanye
[18:44]	reptilian_thrills	"cant tell me nothin" is like his own version of "my way"
[18:44]	reptilian_thrills	hes such a fucking boob
[18:45]	reptilian_thrills	if he were any more ridiculous he might as well put on white gloves and do a minstrel routine
[18:46]	reptilian_thrills	but he definitely looks cooler than that, until he says just about anything
[18:46]	DaemonFC	He would be a black Trump supporter.
[18:46]	reptilian_thrills	honestly theres a plotline in undercover brother that kanye brings to life
[18:47]	reptilian_thrills	theres a conspiracy involving drugs in fried chicken that makes black people sell out
[18:47]	DaemonFC	Have you seen black people that support Trump attempt to speak? They end up like Kanye West or Herschel Walker.
[18:47]	DaemonFC	On a good day, you have some idea of what they were trying to say, but it all comes out strangely.
[18:47]	reptilian_thrills	so all these black celebs started doing things that made them more complacent with white culture
[18:48]	DaemonFC	Well, most white Republicans still have some grasp of the English language.
[18:48]	reptilian_thrills	there were sequels like "driving miss daisy, again"
[18:48]	reptilian_thrills	and "how stella got her white man back" :)
[18:49]	reptilian_thrills	kanye must have found all the generals fried chicken and eaten it
[18:49]	DaemonFC	It's amazing how they're on Facebook telling immigrants to learn English and they can't make it through an entire sentence spelling four and five letter words correctly, in English.
[18:49]	DaemonFC	But the sentence structure is, at least, still there.
[18:49]	reptilian_thrills	"it reminds me of the fresh prince, i like him, he raps happy"-- lance (neil patrick harris)
[18:50]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/news/Btrfs-Async-Discard-Default
[18:50]	TR Bot	6.2 Likely To Enable Btrfs Async Discard By Default - Phoronix
[18:50]	DaemonFC	"Facebook/Meta engineers"
[18:51]	DaemonFC	I wonder if this is actually good code considering that the company is mostly being mocked for spending down all of their assets on something that looks like characters in a Nintendo 64 game where nobody has any legs, on a $600 VR headset.
[18:52]	DaemonFC	When Facebook collapses, what does society lose? What was stored on their servers in BtrFS? Cat pictures, terrorist posts that they don't see anything wrong with, anti-vaxxers?
[18:56]	MinceR	https://nitter.it/funwithstuff/status/1585850262656143360
[18:56]	TR Bot	Anderson (@funwithstuff): "Fun times ahead for #Adobe designers. Today, if you open a PSD (even one that's 20 years old) with an obscure PANTONE colour, it will remove the colour and make it black. Pantone want US$21/month for access, and Solid Coated goes behind the paywall in early November."|nitter.it
[18:56]	reptilian_thrills	fun with stuff
[18:57]	reptilian_thrills	/me gives mincer a whimsical nick like mincer_the_unicorn and a catchphrase: "fuck your dreams"
[18:58]	MinceR	more like "your dreams are fucking themselves"
[18:58]	reptilian_thrills	 :.
[18:58]	reptilian_thrills	 :.
[18:58]	reptilian_thrills	/me fixes keyboard
[18:58]	MinceR	:)
[18:58]	reptilian_thrills	  :>
[18:58]	reptilian_thrills	for a minute it looked like the creepy shit in that alan moore comic
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[19:01]	reptilian_thrills	/me wonders if dr sixel has a pumpkin with a swastika carved into it
[19:02]	MinceR	he wouldn't admit it anyway
[19:02]	reptilian_thrills	"people dont like my pumpkin because theyre bigots"
[19:03]	MinceR	https://ircz.de/p/22100155
[19:03]	TR Bot	 IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/8etrqj7v58q91.jpg created on 2022-10-01 22:25:26.760889
[19:13]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-exFAT-Progs-1.2
[19:13]	TR Bot	exFAT Programs v1.2 Allows Repairing Corrupted Filesystems - Phoronix
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[19:22]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/news/Lennart-Trusted-Boot-World
[19:22]	TR Bot	Poettering Talks Up A "Brave New Trusted Boot World" For Linux - Phoronix
[19:22]	DaemonFC	Guy who wrote systemd accuses Linux of being "brittle" and "not robust".
[19:22]	DaemonFC	(Microsoft Employee)
[19:23]	DaemonFC	systemd has been buggy (many of the same bugs nearly a decade later, while they insult people who complain about the same bugs nearly 10 years later).
[19:24]	DaemonFC	systemd has introduced many security vulnerabilities, and Lennart has personally attacked people for even talking about them, followed by refusing to fix some of it, or even allow anyone else to.
[19:25]	DaemonFC	systemd is not "robust", it has had many issues where even the "Long Term Stable" distributions have ended up with it sitting there leaking GB of memory and causing the need to reboot the computer more frequently just to get the leaked memory back.
[19:27]	DaemonFC	systemd is bloated.... It's got more lines of code than WebKit, and is therefore basically impossible to audit. Worse, they threw this mess together very fast, and it's even in the language that they are now trash talking for "making it possible to commit serious errors leading to security vulnerabilities" even though, like Linux, if they wrote the entire thing in Rust somehow today, 70-80% of it would be using "unsafe".
[19:28]	DaemonFC	Also, Lennart, like mjg59_, just continues to imply that Secure Boot is a silver bullet with absolutely no bugs in it, or the underlying firmware, when in fact nearly every implementation of every UEFI firmware has had hundreds of serious problems and almost nobody is ballsy enough to try to update it after losing their first computer trying to flash firmware.
[19:29]	DaemonFC	Lenovo says "Hey, install this!" and 1 in 5 times, it fucks Windows so bad you have to use the recovery partition.
[19:30]	DaemonFC	A computer that barely even works at all is the mark of Microsoft and Intel.
[19:31]	DaemonFC	A computer that's temperamental even on a good day is what you're getting lately if you try to run anything on an Intel platform. But at least you can get rid of Windows.
[19:33]	MinceR	(cat) https://www.deviantart.com/furlined/art/Porthole-897802927
[19:33]	TR Bot	by FurLined on DeviantArt
[19:34]	MinceR	28 202241 < DaemonFC> Guy who wrote systemd accuses Linux of being "brittle" and "not robust".
[19:34]	MinceR	LOL
[19:34]	DaemonFC	https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Silverblue_Kinoite_readonly_sysroot
[19:34]	TR Bot	 Changes/Silverblue Kinoite readonly sysroot - Fedora Project Wiki
[19:34]	DaemonFC	Ah yes, from the "Just assume users are all fucking stupid and revert whatever they do." dept.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	That's a very good dept.
[19:34]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ should apply there.
[19:35]	DaemonFC	He already has done a lot of work on this.
[19:35]	MinceR	guy moves from house made of glass to house made of sugar glass, takes up brick-throwing as a hobby
[19:35]	DaemonFC	Tuco: "So you're saying they're stupid!"
[19:36]	DaemonFC	"Ohh, I see, so you're saying _I'm_ stupid?"
[19:36]	DaemonFC	:)
[19:36]	MinceR	:)
[19:39]	DaemonFC	He realized too late that there was no going back from that.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	What got him killed wasn't that Tuco actually thought either of those things, so there was nothing he could say.
[19:39]	DaemonFC	He disrespected the boss by attempting to speak in his place.
[19:40]	DaemonFC	When your boss is a psychotic drug dealer that's built like a brick shithouse and is his own best customer, best not to step out of line.
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[20:00]	DaemonFC	New post coming about Facebook.
[20:08]	DaemonFC	https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-37-November-Delay
[20:08]	TR Bot	37 Release Delayed To Mid-November Over Critical OpenSSL Vulnerability - Phoronix
[20:11]	DaemonFC	"OpenSSL has gotten a lot better thanks to a huge cash infusion from Microsoft."
[20:11]	DaemonFC	Isn't that what he said after Heartbleed?
[20:12]	DaemonFC	Most of their Critical CVEs turn out to be in crackpot code that almost nobody needs that they build by default.
[20:13]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR3], Aurora has fallen by another 20% since that post.
[20:13]	DaemonFC	https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/AUR/
[20:13]	TR Bot	 Aurora Innovation, Inc. (AUR) Stock Price, News, Quote & History - Yahoo Finance
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[20:18]	AdmFubar1	https://www.alternet.org/2022/10/silicon-valley-workers/
[20:18]	TR Bot	is coming': Silicon Valley workers on the brink of a rude awakening as potential Big Tech layoffs loom - Alternet.org
[20:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[20:21]	DaemonFC	mjg59_ https://seungylee14.substack.com/p/how-bart-on-the-golden-gate-bridge
[20:21]	TR Bot	 How BART on the Golden Gate Bridge Died: A New History
[20:21]	DaemonFC	Linked to this....
[20:21]	DaemonFC	Not realizing the irony.
[20:22]	DaemonFC	Most of the people who wanted/want public transit DEAD were/are "rich white men" (mjg59_: Know any?) who didn't want the buses and trains carrying minorities into their neighborhoods to commit crime.
[20:29]	DaemonFC	https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PortingToModernC
[20:29]	TR Bot	 Changes/PortingToModernC - Fedora Project Wiki
[20:30]	DaemonFC	"This legacy feature is very close to being incompatible with the C2X standard, which introduces unnamed function arguments. But due to a quirk in GCC's implementation, it should be possible to support both at the same time."
[20:30]	DaemonFC	:/
[20:32]	DaemonFC	It seems like most of the "legacy" features are just inviting trouble where there doesn't have to be any.
[20:34]	DaemonFC	I wonder what that former Nullsoft guy is using to compile Opus for Winamp 2.x.
[20:34]	DaemonFC	Because it does work on Windows 95.
[20:35]	DaemonFC	I haven't tried it with Win32s on Windows 3.11 though.
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[20:36]	DaemonFC	I don't know where Winamp stopped supporting Win32s at, but some of the older versions definitely worked.
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[20:36]	DaemonFC	It used to be style WinAMP because of the AMP media engine they licensed.
[20:37]	DaemonFC	They got into a very nasty lawsuit over that because they quit paying for the AMP license and claimed that their new "Nitrane" plug-in for MP3 decoding was all original code, and it wasn't. They settled out of court and moved on to license a FhG MP3 decoder.
[20:37]	DaemonFC	"Nitrane" was not compliant with the ISO MP3 standard, and introduced artifacts into audio when played back.
[20:38]	DaemonFC	So if anything still works on Windows 3.1 it'll probably either be the AMP or Nitrane releases.
[20:39]	DaemonFC	Something similar just happened with AAC. The new owner of Winamp lost all of the MPEG licenses that AOL had access to, so now it using the Windows Vista+ "Media Foundation", and comes without an AAC encoder.
[20:39]	DaemonFC	But if you go grab the last AOL release and dump the FhG AAC encoder into the folder, it works.
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[20:44]	DaemonFC	It's interesting that instead of "open sourcing" FhG AAC, they went and made a different encoder called FDK AAC for Android.
[20:44]	DaemonFC	FhG has always been bad about this, having different "encoder products" that all have different quirks, bugs, problem samples, and licensing.
[20:45]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I just started Hellraiser IV. I know this is going to be bad.
[20:45]	DaemonFC	It says "Directed by Alan Smithee".
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[20:46]	DaemonFC	There is no Alan Smithee. It was one way for a director to take his name off a movie that turned out so bad that they wanted to disown it.
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[21:00]	MinceR	:)
[21:07]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2022/10/28/1128695831/united-states-2022-patterns-mail-early-voting
[21:07]	TR Bot	 How early voting and vote-by-mail have changed voting patterns : NPR
[21:07]	DaemonFC	Very nearly everyone voted on Election Day in the 90s.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	I remember my parents rushing to the polling place because they had to get there on that day before it closed.
[21:07]	DaemonFC	They didn't much care if you had to work that day or not and there was no law that gave you any time off to vote.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	Even now, Indiana does have early voting, but you have to make up a "reason" why you can't do it on Election Day.
[21:08]	DaemonFC	Nobody ever checks the reason though, so you can just articulate that "I have a good reason to believe I will be out of the county on the entire day, and will therefore be unavailable at any time the polls are open.".
[21:09]	DaemonFC	But they didn't even have that back then.
[21:09]	DaemonFC	"I have work that day." is an excuse, but you also have to be "unavailable at all hours that the polls are open from 6 AM to 6 PM.
[21:10]	DaemonFC	So very few people can honestly say they expect to be tied up all day long, but I mean, you can plan to go somewhere all day that's not in the county, vote, and then change your mind about leaving the county that day.
[21:10]	DaemonFC	MinceR, ^
[21:10]	DaemonFC	This is the government of course.
[21:13]	DaemonFC	It's interesting that conservatives were stacking the voting laws so that only people who have nowhere to go and all day to get there could easily vote. They didn't want working people voting. They wanted old peopl sitting around rotting away on Social Security to vote, at least then.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	The working class is getting away from the Democrats. Trump showed how this is happening.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	Their base is now welfare cases, felons, and oddly enough, white collar workers who have college degrees and say they're very progressive, and then get the hell out of Dodge so they don't have to deal with the crime, and move into a $3 million house.
[21:14]	DaemonFC	Like mjg59_ 
[21:15]	DaemonFC	(The third group.)
[21:15]	DaemonFC	The notion is that if you make all of the houses $3 million and jack up the taxes sky high, nobody of working class can live there anymore.
[21:15]	DaemonFC	And so you don't have to deal with any of them, unless they're just there to serve you and then go home on the bus.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	They've made the inequality in America so bad, while saying they're the left.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	Then they're surprised that people are breaking into the home of the House Speaker at 3 AM and hitting his husband with a hammer.
[21:16]	DaemonFC	Stop! Hammer time!
[21:16]	DaemonFC	"WHERE IS SHE! WHERE IS SHEEEEEEEEEEEE!?"
[21:17]	DaemonFC	"Who does number two work for!!!!?"
[21:18]	AdmFubar1	WTF? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-27/bitcoin-btc-miner-core-scientific-says-it-may-seek-bankruptcy
[21:18]	TR Bot	- Are you a robot?
[21:19]	MinceR	DaemonFC: number one.
[21:20]	schestowitz[TR3]	btc MinceR 
[21:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[21:20]	AdmFubar1	my numbers usually work together.. especially when I'm on the potty
[21:21]	XRevan86	https://neuters.de/technology/elon-musk-takes-over-twitter-free-speech-limits-tested-2022-10-28/
[21:21]	TR Bot	 As Elon Musk takes over Twitter, free speech limits tested
[21:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	weird headline
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	he did nothing for free speech
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	just some words on paper/speech/tweet
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	he tested nothing
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	wait till some people there try to hire a hitman for LP
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	and see the reaction
[21:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	when families sue
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[21:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	DaemonFC: argoai is defunct
[21:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	officially
[21:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	aurora does the same
[21:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	so no reason for a different destination
[21:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	I'm sure someone we know already scattered a resume
[21:25]	schestowitz[TR3]	"will work for food" -> " will FUD for work"
[21:26]	TR News	Parrot 5.1 Security Edition Quick overview #shorts - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=sIUhu-kfjoE | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/sIUhu-kfjoE
[21:26]	TR Bot	 Parrot 5.1 Security Edition Quick overview #shorts - Invidious
[21:29]	MinceR	(audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm-sQnazFAQ
[21:29]	TR Bot	https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=Zm-sQnazFAQ
[21:29]	TR Bot	yt.artemislena.eu | BAHFest 2013 - Tomer Ullman: The Crying Game - Invidious
[21:31]	TR News	Upgrade to Ubuntu 22.10 | Kinectic Kudu - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7zavpKsXvAY | Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/7zavpKsXvAY
[21:31]	TR Bot	 Upgrade to Ubuntu 22.10 | Kinectic Kudu - Invidious
[21:32]	TR News	fases version 0a1b75121da6e82a77b1aed346fd0db1e9c4d950 (alpha) released on 23 October 2022 https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Fases
[21:32]	TR Bot	 Fases - Free Software Directory
[21:33]	TR News	This is where Mozilla money goes: YOUTUBE (Google) promotions https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/rachel-maksy-youtube/
[21:33]	TR Bot	 Firefox Presents: Cosplayer Rachel Maksy gives main character energy
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[21:35]	TR News	Chromium V8 Engine https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/10/28/cisa-has-added-one-known-exploited-vulnerability-catalog
[21:35]	TR Bot	 CISA Has Added One Known Exploited Vulnerability to Catalog | CISA
[21:36]	TR News	28
[21:36]	TR News	Intel doomed like ICBM, says Intel- and ICBM-funded pundit Timothy Prickett Morgan https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/10/28/the-pax-chipzilla-is-over-and-intel-cant-hold-back-the-barbarians/
[21:36]	TR Bot	 The Pax Chipzilla Is Over, And Intel Cant Hold Back The Barbarians
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[21:38]	TR News	VMware makes terrible products https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/vmware-fixes-remotely-exploitable-flaw-in-open-source-library-xstream.html http://techrights.org/wiki/VMware
[21:38]	TR Bot	- VMware fixes remotely exploitable flaw in open-source library XStream
[21:38]	TR Bot	 VMware - Techrights
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[21:39]	TR News	New Twitter: lies (or promises unfulfilled) from DAY ONE https://itwire.com/technology-regulation/chief-twit-musk-says-no-reinstatement-of-trump-or-others-right-away.html
[21:39]	TR Bot	- 'Chief Twit' Musk says no reinstatement of Trump or others right away
[21:40]	TR News	"NVIDIA 520, the latest feature release of NVIDIA driver for Linux, is available to install in all current Ubuntu LTS releases." https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/10/nvidia-driver-520-install-ubuntu/
[21:41]	TR Bot	 NVIDIA Driver 520 available to install in Ubuntu 22.04 | 20.04 | 18.04 | UbuntuHandbook
[21:43]	TR News	"In the past years, I have been forced to unfollow many people that I should have followed for my work, because they lead lots of valid, very interesting projects. But they couldnt help drowning those news under a non-stop stream of stuff I couldnt care less" https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/02/can-we-have-interests-instead-of-socialization/
[21:43]	TR Bot	 Can we have INTERESTS, instead of "SOCIALIZATION"? | Stop at Zona-M
[21:44]	TR News	Mike Blumenkrantz: Its Over https://www.supergoodcode.com/its-over/
[21:44]	TR Bot	 Its Over Mike Blumenkrantz Super. Good. Code.
[21:45]	TR News	"on lonely friday nights just to realize that https://disqus.com is programmed to never ever allow any tor user to login. so much for uncencored free speech on the internet" https://dwaves.de/2022/10/28/if-u-have-done-this-u-are-definately-a-nerd/
[21:45]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[21:45]	TR Bot	if u have done this u are definately a nerd | dwaves.de
[21:48]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR3], Well, I got someone's attention at the insurance company. This is too good.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	MinceR, I've learned quite a few things from lawyers and even Science Fiction.
[21:49]	DaemonFC	Be forceful, use a lot of deep language, but never commit yourself to any course of action, but imply that something will happen if things don't go your way.
[21:50]	DaemonFC	Imply that you have reason to believe that they've violated "laws" but don't cite any without speaking to your attorney.
[21:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	DaemonFC: "Democrat Party
[21:50]	DaemonFC	There's a lot of laws, you know.
[21:50]	schestowitz[TR3]	"tic"?
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR3]	".."
[21:51]	DaemonFC	You don't know them all, but imply that you know something that they don't know.
[21:51]	schestowitz[TR3]	the second "." not needed
[21:52]	DaemonFC	Well, I end up doing this when I have something in quotations at the end of a sentence.
[21:52]	DaemonFC	It just feels wrong not to.
[21:53]	DaemonFC	I'm pretty furious about what's going on in our country right now.
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	Facebook will fall some more
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	they have no legs to stand on
[21:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	you said aurora too had fallen a lot more beforer you wrote this
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	these products are not sellable
[21:54]	DaemonFC	The Democrats have committed a lot of offenses and they're so arrogant that they themselves have seriously underestimated how bad things are getting, to the point the House Speaker's husband could have been killed this morning.
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	not many people buy cars, either
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	with "supply chain" issues it's suicidal
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	and with trade wars against the szupplier of somke parts
[21:54]	DaemonFC	Will they pay attention now? Will it even matter?
[21:54]	DaemonFC	They can't fix the country in 12 days, and people are already voting anyway.
[21:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	"sorry we don't make this dashboard anymore. we stopped 5 eyars ago"
[21:55]	DaemonFC	It's too late, and once the Republicans take over Congress and many governor's mansions, they have no reason to help Biden do anything good.
[21:55]	schestowitz[TR3]	Paul Pelosi?
[21:55]	DaemonFC	The last thing they need is for things to improve.
[21:55]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Pelosi.
[21:55]	schestowitz[TR3]	(Microisofter)
[21:55]	schestowitz[TR3]	was there an assassination attempt?
[21:55]	DaemonFC	YES!
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR3]	didn't read, did  not knwo
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR3]	(yet)
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR3]	we were out for 3.5 hours
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR3]	trams, mall, stuff...
[21:56]	DaemonFC	At around 2 AM local time (San Francisco) there was a break in by a man who attacked him with a hammer and apparently tied him up.
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR3]	didn't miss that much
[21:56]	DaemonFC	The police got out there and made an arrest.
[21:56]	schestowitz[TR3]	it's not so attractive out there
[21:57]	schestowitz[TR3]	didn't the capital  terrorist also take the wife's gavel or something?
[21:57]	schestowitz[TR3]	*Capitol
[21:57]	TR News	Facebook is Dying as the Tech Bubble Bursts | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/facebook-is-dying/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/10/28/facebook-is-dying/
[21:58]	TR Bot	 Facebook is Dying as the Tech Bubble Bursts | Techrights
[21:58]	DaemonFC	Yes.
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR3]	there isa  theme/motif
[21:58]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR3], The N64 mostly faked a lot of its neat (at the time) graphics.
[21:58]	schestowitz[TR3]	microsoft could have lost a big shareholder
[21:58]	scientes	DaemonFC, you do not know what you are talking about
[21:59]	scientes	(as usual)
[21:59]	TR News	"The EPEL team is retiring package modularity in EPEL 8. Modules were introduced in RHEL 8, but have since been phased out. They were never supported in EPEL 9." https://blog.centos.org/2022/10/centos-community-newsletter-october-2022/
[21:59]	TR Bot	Community Newsletter, October 2022 Blog.CentOS.org
[21:59]	DaemonFC	I'm kind of surprised at how bad the "Metaverse" looks today.
[21:59]	DaemonFC	Like, they can't do better than "Wii Sports"?
● Oct 28
[22:00]	DaemonFC	It looks like consoles from Nintendo 20-30 years ago through a $600 headset.
[22:00]	TR News	"V2BlankBrowser is Linux Web Browser, created to playing games or use with web apps in mind. But it is still normal browser, with tabs, etc. To made UI flexible to fulfill both playing games, use web apps and web browsing, I use many techniques. Last is tab displaying/hiding by a gesture! See the link." https://nintyfan.wordpress.com/2022/10/28/v2blankbrowser-get-new-feature/
[22:00]	TR Bot	 V2BlankBrowser get new feature!! | nintyfan
[22:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR3], Debtor-in-possession is an alternative to declaring bankruptcy.
[22:02]	DaemonFC	But it still means large losses for the creditors.
[22:04]	TR News	Humans may be rational, or#HowTo collect better documentation feedback with linguistic theory | Ubuntu https://ubuntu.com//blog/humans-may-be-rational-or-how-to-collect-better-documentation-feedback-with-linguistic-theory Source: Ubuntu
[22:04]	TR Bot	may be rational, or how to collect better documentation feedback with linguistic theory | Ubuntu
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR3]	DaemonFC: often Big bankers
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR3]	and financial instirutiond
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR3]	don't worry
[22:04]	schestowitz[TR3]	they have bailoutbiden
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR3]	he writes them big cheques that we don't even get to see
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR3]	he should bail out the people in debt
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR3]	who lose their house
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR3]	not bail out the billionaiires
[22:05]	schestowitz[TR3]	who fell shy of their all-time record
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR3]	they just need trump or biden
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR3]	to sign bills for Bill
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR3]	if they are demented, all the better
[22:06]	schestowitz[TR3]	"Vote for the HAND"
[22:06]	DaemonFC	When they finish ruining the economy there won't be anything to fund bailouts with.
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	it's how it always ends
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	youm max up the credit card
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	then you move to the next
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	then you hide the first and second
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	get a thitrd one
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	max that one up too
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	like narcotics
[22:08]	schestowitz[TR3]	"the drugs don't work anymore
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	but not intoxicated on borrowed money
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	some of these exceed deaths in the US could be OD
[22:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	*excess
[22:10]	DaemonFC	They were written off along with almost everyone else.
[22:10]	DaemonFC	If you die, you die.
[22:10]	TR News	Ewww... Microsoft TypeScript. AWFUL. https://www.linuxlinks.com/excellent-utilities-imagine-image-optimization/
[22:10]	TR Bot	Utilities: Imagine - image optimization - LinuxLinks
[22:13]	DaemonFC	"Total predicted number of excess deaths since 2/1/2020 across the United States: 1,214,136" -CDC
[22:13]	DaemonFC	So about 200,000 more than the "official" COVID death toll.
[22:15]	TR News	 (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/today_s_howtos.3.gmi 
[22:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines today's howtos
[22:15]	TR News	 (NEW): 37 Excellent Ways to Manage Your System - Essential System Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/37_Excellent_Ways_to_Manage_Your_System_Essential_System_Tools.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/37_Excellent_Ways_to_Manage_Your_System_Essential_System_Tools.gmi 
[22:15]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines 37 Excellent Ways to Manage Your System - Essential System Tools
[22:16]	schestowitz[TR3]	DaemonFC:  https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/26/wrong-excess-deaths/
[22:16]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Excess Deaths in the US Should be Calculated Based on Pre-Pandemic Levels
[22:17]	DaemonFC	"On November 17, 2021, the algorithm used to estimate excess deaths was modified to include 6 years of prior data, rather than 4, which have been used to date. Initial estimates of excess deaths used 4 years of data prior to 2020 in the algorithm to evaluate potential trends in expected and excess deaths.  As excess deaths continued to be tracked into 2021, an increasing amount of data had to be excluded from the algorithm modeling, as weekly 
[22:17]	DaemonFC	counts of deaths during the pandemic (February 1, 2020 to present) are excluded from the algorithm to estimate the expected numbers of deaths. As of November 2021, this results in approximately 93 weeks of data being excluded from the estimation. With the exclusion of these 93 weeks, there was insufficient data to accurately estimate the trends in the expected numbers of deaths when using only 4 prior years of data. Thus, the number of prior 
[22:17]	DaemonFC	years used to estimate the expected numbers of deaths was increased to 6, to ensure a sufficient number of years to estimate the trends over time. This change resulted in an increase in the weekly expected numbers of deaths by an average of 2% throughout the pandemic. The increase in the expected numbers of deaths resulted in a decrease in the estimates of total excess deaths, but these estimates are within the range of previously published 
[22:17]	DaemonFC	values."
[22:17]	DaemonFC	Certain amount of guesswork.
[22:18]	DaemonFC	Between 100,000-200,000 more than the official COVID-19 death figure.
[22:19]	schestowitz[TR3]	pandemicIsOver(R)
[22:19]	schestowitz[TR3]	[drrops mic]
[22:19]	schestowitz[TR3]	[tries to find way to get off the stage]
[22:20]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-27.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-10-28.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[22:20]	DaemonFC	If it is 150,000, then that would be about 152 excess deaths per day that aren't being accounted for over the past 32.5 months of data.
[22:20]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://hackaday.com/2022/10/28/gesture-controlled-filming-gear-works-super-intuitively/
[22:20]	TR Bot	Controlled Filming Gear Works Super Intuitively | Hackaday
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/10/28/rishi-sunak-and-britains-post-brexit-fairy-tales/
[22:21]	TR Bot	Sunak and Britain's Post-Brexit Fairy Tales - CounterPunch.org
[22:21]	DaemonFC	But the worst gap between officially explainable deaths and excess deaths are the most recent data.
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	"Much mirth is expressed over President Joe Biden mispronouncing the new Prime Ministers name as Rashee Sanook. Many see this as showing how the merry-go-round of British leaders has confused the rest of the world. Some take up the opportunity to sideswipe Biden, saying that he was pretty confused to begin with.
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	"
[22:21]	DaemonFC	Which is probably because they stopped testing and don't want to know it's COVID.
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	same here
[22:21]	schestowitz[TR3]	but about 9,000 more per die each month compared to pre-pandemic
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	9000 just in England and Wales
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	that would be autumn
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	not even winter yet
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	so ONS is where I look
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	CDC releases no data later than March 2022
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	so we must wait
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	ONS release every tuesday
[22:22]	schestowitz[TR3]	canada's data is YEARS behind
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/16/australia-post-covid-spike/
[22:23]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Australia Reports 17.1% More Deaths Than the Historical Average Following the COVID-19 Wave, Lets Look at the Data
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/18/ireland-death-data/
[22:23]	DaemonFC	Over the past couple years the government has sounded more and more indiscernible from Pfizer and Moderna's marketing department. Now they just hide the COVID deaths and say the vaccines are preventing "most".
[22:23]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Irelands Death (Mortality) Data: Deaths Not Slowing Down Since Pandemics Peak, Totals Still 11% Higher Than Pre-Pandemic
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	intl' trend
[22:23]	DaemonFC	Then mjg59_ runs with that.
[22:23]	schestowitz[TR3]	those are the english-speaking countie
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[22:24]	scientes	schestowitz[TR3], "deaths not slowing down"
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	shttps://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/23/germany-says-deaths-increased/
[22:24]	scientes	hmmm, I think they misunderstand some basic concepts about death
[22:24]	schestowitz[TR3]	https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/10/23/germany-says-deaths-increased/
[22:24]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Germany Says Deaths Increased by 9% Last Month, But Thats Measuring This Year Compared to Two Years of Pandemic
[22:24]	scientes	schestowitz[TR3], do people die twice in germany now?
[22:24]	scientes	that would be a 2X increase
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[22:26]	schestowitz[TR3]	no
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR3]	you can predict number od deatrhs
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR3]	it's a wave, line wine
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR3]	with peaks around winter
[22:26]	scientes	Because I could not stop for Death,
[22:26]	scientes	He kindly stopped for me;
[22:26]	scientes	The carriage held but just ourselves
[22:26]	scientes	And Immortality.
[22:26]	schestowitz[TR3]	now the waves are far higher
[22:26]	scientes	^^^deaths are still not slowing down in that poem
[22:27]	scientes	nor are they speeding up
[22:28]	scientes	schestowitz[TR3], maybe the problem is that YOU need to die quicker
[22:29]	scientes	which is very differen't from saying "death has sped up in NorthHampShire"
[22:30]	scientes	Doctor Faggot Schestowitz
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR3]	i don't follow what you say and now insulkts too
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR3]	get help
[22:30]	scientes	NO U
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR3]	people die faster
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR3]	fact
[22:30]	schestowitz[TR3]	based on the national data
[22:31]	schestowitz[TR3]	you moved to russia and inherited the manner of a stereotypical russian
[22:31]	scientes	if I am a smoker do I die faster, or does smoking kill me?
[22:31]	schestowitz[TR3]	i'll get back to work
[22:31]	schestowitz[TR3]	you are talking BS
[22:31]	scientes	NO U
[22:32]	TR News	"Kubewarden is a policy engine for Kubernetes. Its mission is to simplify the adoption of policy-as-code . Since PodSecurityPolicy (PSP) is being deprecated in Kubernetes 1.21, you can use Kubewarden as a replacement to PSP policies." https://www.suse.com/c/replace-psp-with-kubewarden-policy/
[22:32]	TR Bot	PSP with Kubewarden policy | SUSE Communities
[22:33]	scientes	schestowitz[TR3], please stop buring infant girls in the park. They don't thank you for the privledge.
[22:33]	TR News	The Rust Programming Language Blog: Generic associated types to be stable in Rust 1.65 https://blog.rust-lang.org/2022/10/28/gats-stabilization.html
[22:33]	TR Bot	 Generic associated types to be stable in Rust 1.65 | Rust Blog
[22:34]	TR News	Clown computing and security are a paradox https://www.suse.com/c/suse-rancher-and-rke2-kubernetes-cluster-in-dell-technologies-apex-private-cloud-services/
[22:34]	TR Bot	Rancher and RKE2 Kubernetes Cluster in Dell Technologies APEX Private Cloud Services | SUSE Communities
[22:36]	TR News	November 16-18: Envelop yourself in stuffing at FSF's fundraiser mailing https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/november-16-18-envelop-yourself-in-stuffing-at-fsfs-fundraiser-mailing
[22:36]	TR Bot	 November 16-18: Envelop yourself in stuffing at FSF's fundraiser mailing Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
[22:36]	TR News	FSF activity outsourced to foes of the FSF's founder https://www.fsf.org/blogs/directory/fsd-meeting-recap-2022-10-28
[22:36]	TR Bot	 FSD meeting recap 2022-10-28 Free Software Foundation Working together for free software
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[22:38]	TR News	Facebook is collapsing right in front of us. http://techrights.org/2022/10/28/facebook-is-dying/
[22:38]	TR Bot	 Facebook is Dying as the Tech Bubble Bursts | Techrights
[22:41]	DaemonFC	I love this country.
[22:41]	DaemonFC	"Hellman's Real Mayo with Olive Oil"
[22:42]	TR News	Tons of HEY HI fluff by Sean Michael Kerner these days (he used to focus on GNU/Linux), this one for clown computing and monopolies. Not good. https://venturebeat.com/ai/amazon-sagemaker-continues-to-expand-machine-learning-ml-use-in-the-cloud/
[22:42]	TR Bot	SageMaker continues to expand machine learning (ML) use in the cloud | VentureBeat
[22:43]	DaemonFC	Look at the ingredients (listed in order of most to least....) WATER, olive oil,canola oil, soybean oil.....
[22:43]	DaemonFC	Technically not a lie. There is _some_ olive oil in the blend, but by moving water to the first ingredient and including two cheaper oils, they can make the claim that there is olive oil in the mayo while keeping it cheap to make.
[22:44]	DaemonFC	Soybean Oil, Water, Whole Eggs, Distilled Vinegar, Egg Yolks.
[22:44]	DaemonFC	So there's water on the label, but it's the second ingredient in regular Hellman's.
[22:45]	TR News	"The original Schiit Stack being 2 devices high was pretty manageable as-is. With my current 4-high stack though, things became unstable and I had to resort to finding a way to bolt them together." https://veronneau.org/extruded-schiit-stack.html
[22:45]	TR Bot	 Louis-Philippe Vronneau - Extruded Schiit Stack
[22:45]	DaemonFC	Light Hellman's is: Water, Soybean Oil, Modified Food Starch (Corn, Potato)*, Sugar, Distilled Vinegar, Salt, Whole Eggs,
[22:46]	TR News	Conference GIMP and ZeMarmot in Vanduvre-ls-Nancy (France) https://www.gimp.org/news/2022/10/28/conference-zemarmot-fccl/
[22:46]	TR Bot	 Conference GIMP and ZeMarmot in Vanduvre-ls-Nancy(France) - GIMP
[22:46]	DaemonFC	Again, water is the leading ingredient, and worse, you have to get to ingredient seven to get to eggs, which is one of the major ingredients in mayo.
[22:46]	DaemonFC	They're not lying. The more water you use to displace actual mayo, the less cholesterol and saturated fat will be in a tablespoon of mayo.
[22:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	so they could sell concentrate
[22:46]	schestowitz[TR3]	and say,
[22:47]	DaemonFC	But it's not real at this point.
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	"just dilute in water
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	less calories
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	diet mayo
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	90% less fats
[22:47]	schestowitz[TR3]	90% more water
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	miracle sauce
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	you can buy it in 2 litre coke bottle
[22:48]	schestowitz[TR3]	"may contains egg and nuts"
[22:50]	DaemonFC	Great Value Mayo.... SOYBEAN OIL, WATER, WHOLE EGGS, EGG YOLKS, VINEGAR...other ingredients "less than 2%".
[22:51]	DaemonFC	You know, I have had Hellman's and I buy Great Value all the time. Madame Harmon always went to "the expensive old people store" to buy Hellman's.
[22:51]	DaemonFC	And I actually prefer GV and it's half as expensive.
[22:51]	DaemonFC	Even with a huge rebate on it, Hellman's is more expensive, per ounce.
[22:51]	DaemonFC	And it seems to be more dilute than the store brand.
[22:52]	DaemonFC	Eggs definitely belong before vinegar in any recipe. You can make mayo yourself, of course.
[22:52]	DaemonFC	So I suppose that Hellman's might be "a little tangier" and "less viscous" than GV, because the store brand has more egg yolks, less vinegar.
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	anyway, back to tech..
[22:53]	DaemonFC	It's an example of marketing.
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	i need help with somethingf
[22:53]	DaemonFC	There's not an important difference here, much less doubling of the grocery bill.
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	1) how many microsoftr REALLY laiud off
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	inc. temps and contractors
[22:53]	schestowitz[TR3]	2) which buckets lost how much money
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	th e  "media" just parrots what microsot says
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	microsoft tells lies
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	anything to please shareholders... 'white' lies
[22:54]	schestowitz[TR3]	microsoft should fall as much as FB did
[22:55]	schestowitz[TR3]	tesla too
[22:55]	schestowitz[TR3]	scam company
[22:55]	DaemonFC	Wow, this is neat. Jimmy Dean pork sausage. Two pounds at the same unit price as one pound.
[22:55]	DaemonFC	Buy two, pay for two. So amazing.
[22:56]	DaemonFC	Worse! There's a $1.50 rebate if you buy two. So to get the $1.50, you only have to buy two one pound rolls, but you'd have to buy 4 pounds in the "value roll", and then you pay more for something you're going to have to separate at home?
[22:59]	DaemonFC	I'm trying to re-create my grandfather's pizza recipe. He used to make them from scratch at home and sell them at work. When he got to the General Motors plant, people would be lined up in the parking lot paying him cash for the pizzas he brought in.
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[23:00]	DaemonFC	He always had some things going on for cash on the side even though GM paid very good money and certainly enough for a family of 5 to live in the "middle class". Two cars, a house, TV sets in each room (practically unheard of then).
[23:00]	schestowitz[TR3]	back in ma day - grandpa
[23:00]	DaemonFC	My Grandmother was always a "Maricel" with his money so he not only worked at GM and sold pizzas out of his trunk in the parking lot, but he did a newspaper route too.
[23:01]	DaemonFC	And she worked as a hospital nurse.
[23:01]	schestowitz[TR3]	i know people who work 70+m hours a week for 'tech' companies
[23:01]	DaemonFC	But she wasn't contributing. That was her money to go buy expensive dresses and things.
[23:01]	schestowitz[TR3]	so they effectively work two jobbs
[23:01]	schestowitz[TR3]	close to 80 hours
[23:01]	DaemonFC	You need to cut expenses to the bone and say to hell with working all the time.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	I just gave myself another hair cut last night with nothing but my home haircut kit and a hand mirror.
[23:02]	DaemonFC	I don't even want to pay someone $25 to do it because you have to do it every month or it gets overgrown. It's a chore like lawnmowing! (if you own a house) But can't get out of this one.
[23:03]	DaemonFC	But why pay someone else $300 to do your hair each year?
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR3]	social status
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR3]	"I can afford
[23:03]	schestowitz[TR3]	"I get served"
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR3]	rianne cuts here once a year
[23:04]	schestowitz[TR3]	*hers
[23:05]	DaemonFC	Takes <10 minutes.
[23:05]	DaemonFC	So basically what you're doing is paying someone $150 an hour to cut your hair.
[23:05]	DaemonFC	This is crazy.
[23:06]	TR News	Extreme puzzle room, Brevard NC edition gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/10/28.1
[23:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	so buy a trimmer
[23:09]	schestowitz[TR3]	it costs less than one haitcut in a "posh" place
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[23:26]	TR News	Install Arch Linux on ChromeOS https://shibumi.dev/posts/install-arch-linux-on-chromeos/
[23:26]	TR Bot	 Install Arch Linux on ChromeOS
[23:28]	TR News	The KDE Qt5 Patch Collection has been rebased on top of Qt 5.15.7 https://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2022/10/the-kde-qt5-patch-collection-has-been.html
[23:28]	TR Bot	 TSDgeos' blog: The KDE Qt5 Patch Collection has been rebased on top of Qt 5.15.7
[23:29]	TR News	 (NEW): This Week in GNOME #67 File Descriptors and Scopes http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/This_Week_in_GNOME_67_File_Descriptors_and_Scopes.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/10/28/This_Week_in_GNOME_67_File_Descriptors_and_Scopes.gmi 
[23:29]	TR Bot	 Tux Machines This Week in GNOME #67 File Descriptors and Scopes
[23:30]	TR News	WYSIWYG vs markup gemini://idiomdrottning.org/wysiwyg-vs-markup
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