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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Thunderbird Conversations and TenFourFox Feature Parity Release 24 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139262 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cdbcc231-4343-4923-8062-dd31375a8ea8] | Jun 29 00:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Adriaan de Groot: KSysGuard http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139263 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3830b117-1a0f-48f7-822c-d38d1ef58974] | Jun 29 00:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: scikit-survival 0.13 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139264 [https://pleroma.site/objects/355f8cff-e0d7-4309-8824-be636e750649] | Jun 29 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | Ade mentioned here https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/06/28/libreoffice-clippings-20200628/ | Jun 29 00:10 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | LibreOffice Weekly Clippings - June 28, 2020 - The Document Foundation Blog | Jun 29 00:10 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: they sue and raid almost everyone | Jun 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz | https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/06/18/bundlore-adware-brings-a-new-nest-of-risks-to-mac-users/ | Jun 29 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Bundlore adware brings a new nest of risks to Mac users – Naked Security | Jun 29 00:11 | |
| schestowitz | shitty 'journalists' focusing on threats... that users need to actually INSTALL | Jun 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz | while overlooked back doors that are there by intention | Jun 29 00:12 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: +35,906 on a Sunday | Jun 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | covid19 cases | Jun 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | india is approaching, with about 20k new ones tested and confirmed these days | Jun 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | holycrap, mozilla! | Jun 29 00:25 |
| schestowitz | didn't realise it had deprecated pretty much all remaining extensions in thunderbird | Jun 29 00:25 |
| schestowitz | almost nothing remains that works or even shows up | Jun 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | and... theme-wise | Jun 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | they're all obsolete now | Jun 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | enigmail issues a warning now NOT to update thunderbird | Jun 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | as it would break the encryption extension | Jun 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | I found only one theme for thunderbird one can still use | Jun 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | their web site is all rust and rusty... lots of dead extensions | Jun 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | what's left of them | Jun 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | they screw all the volunteers who enhance their software suites/browser | Jun 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | and then they'll end up wondering why users leave, too | Jun 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | the extensions are what made Firefox so attractive and useful in the first place | Jun 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | I cannot even keep count of all those they've disabled, but it's a lot | Jun 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | so now it's just some 'classic' mode | Jun 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | and their themes are like some shallow css | Jun 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | several others suites did the same, limiting what developers can do to customise | Jun 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | so you end up with something monolithic, not for you... because MozKnowsBest(R) | Jun 29 00:29 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s leftovers and howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139265 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a7f7ee20-f20f-4b57-98f1-b13ec759412f] | Jun 29 00:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/apple-declined-to-implement-16-web-apis-in-safari-due-to-privacy-concerns/ | Jun 29 00:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple declined to implement 16 Web APIs in Safari due to privacy concerns | ZDNet | Jun 29 00:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Mozilla enabled the battery status API and then when someone pointed out it was useful in a fingerprinting attack, they rolled it back out. I'm simply no longer confident that any browser vendor really knows or cares what they are doing and we have a much bigger problem than -webkit- prefixes in CSS with Blink because Google is tossing random shit in there and going "This sounds great!", and it doesn't bother | Jun 29 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | them at all because they're a tracking company. | Jun 29 00:44 |
| *rianne_ (~rianne@host81-152-237-200.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Jun 29 00:46 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: the problem starts at w3c with web as in you are defining protocol over wire not end user security. | Jun 29 00:46 |
| *liberty_box (~liberty@host81-152-237-200.range81-152.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights | Jun 29 00:46 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: lets take one of those 16 api apple did not implement. "Web USB" and now its usage case https://github.com/devanlai/webdfu updating device firmware without needing platform particular application. Hmm this absolute does not read as something any random website should be allowed to use. | Jun 29 00:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - devanlai/webdfu: WebUSB Device Firmware Upgrade example | Jun 29 00:49 | |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 29 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Of course being able to update firmware of keyboards and the like connected to a browser only device would be a good thing if the browser had suitable security. | Jun 29 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I agree with removing DNT from Safari. DNT is so dumb. | Jun 29 00:51 |
| oiaohm | Really I don't exactly agree with removing DNT but setting it on all the time would be correct answer. Different country regulations here some countries if there is a flag that says Do Not Track and a company does it an offense. | Jun 29 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Removed support for any plug-ins on macOS." | Jun 29 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The NPAPI code has been -totally- removed from WebkitGTK. | Jun 29 00:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I filed the bug requesting that a while back and it started some chatter about deprecation and removal process. | Jun 29 00:54 |
| oiaohm | The web usb should not exactly be priviacy concerns it should be bricking hardware concerns as well. | Jun 29 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or accessing something and using it as part of a malware attack. | Jun 29 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean damn. | Jun 29 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the fuck is proposing all this? Google? | Jun 29 00:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Are they where all of this is from> | Jun 29 00:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know. I think GNOME Web is not a bad choice, really, considering where things are going. | Jun 29 00:56 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://wicg.github.io/webusb/ web usb is 100 percent google. Like how are going to program arduino on a browser only chrome book without something like that. | Jun 29 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wicg.github.io | WebUSB API | Jun 29 00:58 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: its not all google but mostly. https://www.w3.org/TR/battery-status/ Battery status was started by Intel and Mozilla but the Mozilla developer moved from Mozilla to Google . | Jun 29 01:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | Battery Status API | Jun 29 01:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Firefox is more unique than GNOME Web on Panopticlick, apparently. | Jun 29 01:02 |
| oiaohm | https://www.w3.org/TR/magnetometer/ this one apple is not implementing is pure Intel. | Jun 29 01:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | Magnetometer | Jun 29 01:03 | |
| oiaohm | Majority are google but. | Jun 29 01:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 28/6/2020: Linux 5.8 RC3 and Nitrux 1.3.0 http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/nitrux-1-3-0/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/2db706b2-5541-4cbe-842a-fee352217cb8] | Jun 29 01:04 | |
| oiaohm | https://www.w3.org/TR/netinfo-api/ << pure mozilla one as well. | Jun 29 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.w3.org | The Network Information API | Jun 29 01:05 | |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: its looking roughly half what apple is not implementing is google and the other half are Intel and Mozilla things. | Jun 29 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/demand-for-employee-surveillance-software-soars/ | Jun 29 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Demand for employee surveillance software soars | ZDNet | Jun 29 01:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 40,000 new cases. | Jun 29 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What the hell is going on down there? | Jun 29 01:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2020/06/28/ron-desantis-on-rising-florida-coronavirus-cases-you-cant-control-what-young-people-do/ | Jun 29 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tampabay.com | Ron DeSantis, on rising Florida coronavirus cases: you ‘can’t control’ what young people do | Jun 29 01:46 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ah, governor fails to do anything. Blames "young people". | Jun 29 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, yes! Piss off the voters that will nearly all live! | Jun 29 01:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much all the news I'm seeing is that experts are begging Congress to increase funding and staff at bankruptcy courts. | Jun 29 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're saying it's going to be a wave worse than 2008. | Jun 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're saying that if Congress doesn't increase court resources, then tons of companies that could be saved will hit deadlines and end up being converted to Chapter 7s and liquidated. | Jun 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In other words, we're going to lose hundreds or thousands of viable companies in the coming months because they just get chopped up for parts in a bankruptcy court that can't sift through the mess. | Jun 29 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Part of the plan needs to be Congress extending certain deadlines that would trigger liquidation. | Jun 29 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: So they're talking out both sides of their mouths here. | Jun 29 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're going to do Fedspeak and fake unemployment stats to make things look like they aren't that bad, and at the same time, they're bracing for mass carnage and hoping it's after Trump gets re-elected. | Jun 29 01:59 |
| schestowitz | #twitter now >always< literally BLOCKS browsers that aren't the Big Browsers i.e. #proprietarySoftware with #DRM -- #socialcontrolmedia is getting more disgusting and hostile as the days go by! It refuses to even render on Browsers That Support What It SERVES(R)! | Jun 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have Jim Cramer saying there's nothing wrong and the thought of a Biden presidency is "spooking" the markets. | Jun 29 02:00 |
| MinceR | fuck twatter, i'm tired of having to hit "Try Again" 6 times to get something to load on their shitty excuse of a website | Jun 29 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is the same guy that was blindsided and going nuts when Lehman collapsed. | Jun 29 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was watching him on TV and laughing. | Jun 29 02:01 |
| MinceR | also with a bar telling me that i "might be" banned from seeing whatever it is, even if it is visible, and as i'm not logged in | Jun 29 02:01 |
| MinceR | twatter "developers" have no clue what they're doing | Jun 29 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Twitter appears to work on GNOME Web. | Jun 29 02:02 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure the content i was trying to view would have been less in static HTML than the bug-ridden javascript crap that's trying and failing to load it | Jun 29 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.americanbanker.com/opinion/the-calm-before-the-storm-of-bankruptcies | Jun 29 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.americanbanker.com | The calm before the storm of bankruptcies | American Banker | Jun 29 02:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "But there are countervailing factors as well. | Jun 29 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The current unemployment crisis was artificially created by state and local government stay-at-home orders in response to the pandemic. In past business cycles, increases in the unemployment rate resulted from shocks or recessions —not from a deliberate government decision to freeze most economic activity." | Jun 29 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, it matters why people don't have money when the creditors come a calling.... /s | Jun 29 02:06 |
| MinceR | indeed, dead people do not count as unemployed | Jun 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Idiots. | Jun 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I have the banks I filed bankruptcy against telling me I have an updated credit report with a bankruptcy on it. | Jun 29 02:06 |
| MinceR | which of course leads us to an obvious and easy solution to unemployment that does not rely on any pandemics... | Jun 29 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Ah, gentlemen, glad you could make it!" | Jun 29 02:07 |
| insmodppa | Twitter sends you several MiB of their "web app" JS to load a few KiB of JSON. You load that pile of garbage every time you open a new Twitter URL. God help you if you're on a tight bandwidth quota. | Jun 29 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <insmodppa "Twitter sends you several MiB of"> Yeah, or a slow connection, like I am. | Jun 29 02:07 |
| schestowitz | terrible | Jun 29 02:08 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to hack around it | Jun 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't use Twitter. When I saw a JWZ post about them printing out all of the fucks and shits and "questionable likes" he had made and emailing some guy's boss like 800 pages..... | Jun 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was like "Glad I don't use that!". | Jun 29 02:08 |
| schestowitz | [02:01] <DaemonFC[m]> This is the same guy that was blindsided and going nuts when Lehman collapsed. | Jun 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz | and yet he STILL has a show on TV | Jun 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Where did that post go? | Jun 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He does. He's a fucking idiot is what he is. | Jun 29 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Leading people to financial ruin again, and they probably still won't cancel him. | Jun 29 02:09 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: nitter.net | Jun 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz | so much for meritorcisy | Jun 29 02:09 |
| schestowitz | his recommendations were awful | Jun 29 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were, but it's mostly stupid Republicans who listen to him. | Jun 29 02:10 |
| schestowitz | AVRS: cannot log in through that | Jun 29 02:10 |
| schestowitz | I just need it to see who links to techrights and sometimes rt | Jun 29 02:10 |
| schestowitz | that's all I need | Jun 29 02:10 |
| schestowitz | by PRetending to be firefox, using qupzilla, I can now get minimal pages, the old "mobile" UI | Jun 29 02:12 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/FWSqfbpmqPnAEYzXnExuwWmc > | Jun 29 02:12 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | -- | Jun 29 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL! | Jun 29 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh my God. He has lost people so much money. | Jun 29 02:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Wall Street Journal is basically mocking/trolling him. | Jun 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | I forgot which company he recommended and was massively mocked for | Jun 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | it went viral | Jun 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe lehman | Jun 29 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bet against whatever Jim Cramer says is a buy. | Jun 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | but I'm not sure | Jun 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | before the collapse | Jun 29 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Reverse Cramer. :) | Jun 29 02:14 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe he shorts these before recommending them | Jun 29 02:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It probably was Lehman. | Jun 29 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said buy it and then it was one of the biggest bankruptcies in history a month later. | Jun 29 02:15 |
| schestowitz | I don't suppose there's a leaner twitter interface one can log into | Jun 29 02:15 |
| schestowitz | as in, also interact through it | Jun 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If they're not going to be ashamed of abusing the bankruptcy code, like, I mean fucking hell. | Jun 29 02:16 |
| schestowitz | all I need is a search slice, with possible the ability to RT (not necessity) | Jun 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What they are doing with bankruptcy a lot of the time is a criminal offense. | Jun 29 02:16 |
| insmodppa | schestowitz: If you don't mind writing a script with wget and grep, you can: Read the gt= value from cookie, get the Auth bearer (regex for =AAAA...) and queryId (queryId:"...") from main.xxxxx.js listed on the page, then call the graphql API with the queryId to get the restId which you plug into the timeline/media API URL along with the bearer and gt in the headers. <- See how f***ed up it all gets just to fetch a tiny sentence? | Jun 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The trustee should be clawing back all that bonus money from JC Penney's CEO. | Jun 29 02:16 |
| schestowitz | insmodppa: I don't want to diy for twitter, not worth it | Jun 29 02:16 |
| schestowitz | they also block things and deprecate apis | Jun 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | so you're at their mercy all the time | Jun 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to dump firefox completely from all machines | Jun 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | JC Penney has creditors they're saying they can't pay and they gave the guy like $4 million and then filed bankruptcy immediately. | Jun 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're not even hiding how corrupt this is.. | Jun 29 02:17 |
| insmodppa | Indeed. You'll be spending more time getting it to work than actually using it for any good purpose. | Jun 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | what's the search syntax in twitter for "live" or "latest on top"? | Jun 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | in the old UI, not the "Latest" BS | Jun 29 02:17 |
| schestowitz | I know "from:" | Jun 29 02:18 |
| schestowitz | not sure about time keywords | Jun 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I have my sister-in-law screaming that it's fraud to file bankruptcy on some old credit cards that blew up on me. | Jun 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not. It's perfectly legal. | Jun 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My lawyer said it happens day in and day out. | Jun 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Trustee waved it through and went to lunch. | Jun 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, my god. | Jun 29 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's pissed that she can't do it to clean up their mess. | Jun 29 02:19 |
| insmodppa | schestowitz: Try filter: but I'm not sure if it works with "live". | Jun 29 02:19 |
| schestowitz | Tried time: date: and when: | Jun 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I threw another medical bill in the pile in an amended filing 3 days before the meeting. | Jun 29 02:19 |
| schestowitz | tried filter: also | Jun 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The health dept didn't bill insurance properly and I called them and said "I'm filing bankruptcy and I added your bill, but if you want to re-bill them and _they_ pay you something, that's entirely your business. I suggest you try harder. | Jun 29 02:20 |
| schestowitz | https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-advanced-search | Jun 29 02:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-help.twitter.com | How to use advanced search | Jun 29 02:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Them and their fucking lab. | Jun 29 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I threw $840 from ONE office visit in December in the bankruptcy. Then another $420 for a phone call with some medication refills. | Jun 29 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At a certain point, it really makes no difference anymore. If you owe someone $20, throw that in too. I did. | Jun 29 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My schedule went on for 3 pages when I was done, including the collections agencies I knew of. | Jun 29 02:22 |
| schestowitz | "since:" | Jun 29 02:23 |
| schestowitz | that's the one | Jun 29 02:23 |
| schestowitz | e.g. New Years -Resolution lang:en near:"San Francisco, CA" within:15mi since:2013-12-30 until:2014-01-02 | Jun 29 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kia Finance got all shitty with me because John was behind on his payment and I told them "I don't care. I'm in the middle of filing bankruptcy against you and if you call here again, your ass is grass when I tell the Trustee.". | Jun 29 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that account was forcibly shut down and there's nothing they could do. Repo the car from John maybe, eventually. | Jun 29 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sue him. | Jun 29 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm going to email John that clip of Ash from Alien when this probation expires. | Jun 29 02:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "I won't lie to you about your chances...but, for what it's worth, you have my sympathies.". | Jun 29 02:25 |
| acer-box__ | https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=techrights.org+since%3A2020-06-28&s=typd&x=-606&y=-177 | Jun 29 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Search Twitter - techrights.org since:2020-06-28 | Jun 29 02:29 | |
| schestowitz | ^ sort of close | Jun 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | if only if could be sorted by time | Jun 29 02:29 |
| schestowitz | no sortby: that I can see | Jun 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz | or sort criteria | Jun 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz | twitter is crap | Jun 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz | all these years and they still lack what should have been easy to implement with an sql query on their db | Jun 29 02:30 |
| schestowitz | doesn't even support "now" or "today" | Jun 29 02:31 |
| schestowitz | the dates are hardcoded numbers | Jun 29 02:31 |
| insmodppa | It's intentional. Like how they don't like you viewing anything past the last five minutes. | Jun 29 02:31 |
| schestowitz | ok, byebye firefox | Jun 29 02:32 |
| schestowitz | good riddance, too | Jun 29 02:32 |
| schestowitz | bloated crap | Jun 29 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I purged several browsers off the computer. | Jun 29 02:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Leaving Firefox as a backup browser. | Jun 29 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Deleted the mess they left behind. | Jun 29 02:36 |
| schestowitz | ok, now I have the twitter monitor with zero javascript | Jun 29 02:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now the south not only has a Coronavirus catastrophe, but there's a major dust storm that blew across the Atlantic to land on them. | Jun 29 02:38 |
| schestowitz | qupzilla needs to pretend to be old firefox | Jun 29 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hurricanes soon, no doubt. | Jun 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | otherwise twitter blocks it!! | Jun 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Haiti will become Miami | Jun 29 02:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Twitter probably thinks Web is Safari. | Jun 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | it needs to stop thinking | Jun 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | stop sniffing | Jun 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | use web standards | Jun 29 02:39 |
| schestowitz | and serve the same to all | Jun 29 02:40 |
| schestowitz | if it's not supported by all, don't do it | Jun 29 02:40 |
| schestowitz | but KISS and surveillance capitalism aren't compatible, we all know that... | Jun 29 02:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The current lull seems likely to be unsustainable. Surely, unemployed consumers will burn through savings and exhaust unemployment benefits, and mortgage forbearance cannot continue forever. When that happens, many consumers will seek to wipe out credit card debts or stop a foreclosure from proceeding." | Jun 29 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, I said this many times. | Jun 29 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They are waiting to be as fucked as they can get with debt, before losing the house. | Jun 29 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they will flock to court all at once. | Jun 29 02:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you can only do it once, why wouldn't you wait until the last moment? | Jun 29 02:42 |
| schestowitz | I always come back to falkon/qupzilla | Jun 29 02:43 |
| schestowitz | now I have my work mail working with it again | Jun 29 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody expects me until I've already done what I'm about to do. I think it throws people off better when they think you're aloof and adrift and possibly stupid. | Jun 29 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You don't want your enemy to plan, you want them to be caught off guard. | Jun 29 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With bill collectors, their campaign is psychological in nature. It was designed by psychologists. | Jun 29 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Either they will gain information that helps them sue you later, or they will train you to fear them. | Jun 29 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bombarding people who have stopped paying their bills with notices that look more and more serious (including the color of paper and words like FINAL NOTICE), trains them to do nothing. | Jun 29 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By the time you sue, fewer of them will end up going to court because they don't feel there's anything they can say. | Jun 29 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you get a default judgment. | Jun 29 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's an odds game. | Jun 29 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By emotionally terrorizing them and training them to do nothing, it softens them up in the months leading up to the lawsuit. | Jun 29 02:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have statistical analysis to see who is likely to be worth spending money to sue and they prioritize them. | Jun 29 02:54 |
| schestowitz | #Microsoft #linkedin #censorship https://twitter.com/bgiltrap/status/1277247591294656514 | Jun 29 02:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bgiltrap: https://t.co/qy8jC5LZW4 .@schestowitz have you been aware of the censorship on Linkedin which seems to be accelerat… https://t.co/71xbdmKUK4 | Jun 29 02:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> LinkedIn: we didn’t realise what a... - Stacey Wilkinson | Facebook | Jun 29 02:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bgiltrap: https://t.co/qy8jC5LZW4 .@schestowitz have you been aware of the censorship on Linkedin which seems to be accelerat… https://t.co/71xbdmKUK4 | Jun 29 02:55 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes they don't even bother. Oddly, it's sometimes better to owe many people lots of money. They'll each check your credit report and figure they'll be the one to waste money and push you into filing bankruptcy. | Jun 29 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can sit on it for 5-6 years and sue you later if they want. | Jun 29 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No rush. | Jun 29 02:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Psychological campaigns figure into what gets people into debt, what keeps them there, and what forces them to run on a treadmill to pay it back. | Jun 29 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy's relatives fell hook, line, and sinker. | Jun 29 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they don't pay for that house, they go right back to court. If they try to sell it, they'll owe more than they get. | Jun 29 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's even possible to sell it for a while. | Jun 29 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Debt settlements are a joke. Your credit is destroyed and now you have a big tax bill you can't pay. | Jun 29 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the bankruptcy mandatory "counseling" says you need to seriously consider it. | Jun 29 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcies aren't taxed, but if you negotiate to pay part of a debt as paid in full, the canceled amount is taxed. | Jun 29 03:00 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: vv | Jun 29 03:32 |
| schestowitz | [03:23] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Almost done deleting Firefox (well, it's installed, won't be used) from 3 PCs. Every time you open a tabs they spew out ads and company politics now. And they have placeholders that are paid for. There are even worse Mozilla issues... [https://pleroma.site/objects/225ae813-597b-4e78-957e-383f49356cb8] | Jun 29 03:32 |
| schestowitz | [03:30] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Want a browser that does not treat you like a product to be sold to someone? Use #falkon (or #qupzilla on older-but-still-supported distros) https://phabricator.kde.org/ https://userbase.kde.org/Falkon [https://pleroma.site/objects/ef039ef3-63ee-4562-85d5-3147b0da327a] | Jun 29 03:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jun 29 03:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phabricator.kde.org | Home | Jun 29 03:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-userbase.kde.org | Falkon - KDE UserBase Wiki | Jun 29 03:32 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jun 29 03:32 | |
| schestowitz | my two other PCs are on qupzilla | Jun 29 03:32 |
| schestowitz | they have an old LTS on the, no falkon in their repos now (or ever in the future) | Jun 29 03:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Company politics? | Jun 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz | yes | Jun 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz | like... | Jun 29 03:37 |
| schestowitz | gay rights, BLM etc. | Jun 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz | I didn't ask for it | Jun 29 03:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Don't forget the VPN on the third party company they can't verify isn't spying on you. | Jun 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz | not against it | Jun 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz | but I don't need it in my face just because I open a tab and Mozilla does this to promote its brand there | Jun 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz | AWS login page did the same | Jun 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz | so to enter AWS you need to be lied to by bezos | Jun 29 03:38 |
| schestowitz | as if he cares | Jun 29 03:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I wrote about their privacy snakeoil | Jun 29 03:39 |
| schestowitz | shitcastic is their partner | Jun 29 03:39 |
| schestowitz | and prior to it only clownflare | Jun 29 03:39 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/mozilla-comcast/ | Jun 29 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That “Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy” | Techrights | Jun 29 03:40 | |
| schestowitz | Mozilla is in shambles | Jun 29 03:40 |
| schestowitz | they list prior board members | Jun 29 03:40 |
| schestowitz | as if to take pride in them | Jun 29 03:40 |
| schestowitz | even the one who took bill gates bribes via epstein | Jun 29 03:40 |
| schestowitz | iot | Jun 29 03:40 |
| schestowitz | ito | Jun 29 03:40 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/comcast-privacy/ | Jun 29 03:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Humour] Mozilla Firefox Will Protect Your Privacy Like Comcast Does | Techrights | Jun 29 03:40 | |
| schestowitz | this is beyond satire... they actually mean it | Jun 29 03:41 |
| schestowitz | trust privacy offenders... for privacy | Jun 29 03:41 |
| schestowitz | and I'm no longer trusting let's encrypt either | Jun 29 03:41 |
| schestowitz | they never explained what had happened and the US rushes new anti-privacy bills | Jun 29 03:41 |
| schestowitz | stupid question: | Jun 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz | can you think of a way to make konversation "latest message on top"? | Jun 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz | as in reverse order? | Jun 29 03:44 |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/nextcloud/desktop/issues/345 | Jun 29 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fix activities by camilasan · Pull Request #345 · nextcloud/desktop · GitHub | Jun 29 03:46 | |
| schestowitz | wait, they're on shithub? | Jun 29 03:46 |
| schestowitz | or just a mirror? | Jun 29 03:46 |
| schestowitz | cannot find a single irc client that would accomplish this | Jun 29 03:48 |
| schestowitz | could write something to do this in a shell... maybe I shall... | Jun 29 03:49 |
| schestowitz | I can trigger scripts from inside konversation | Jun 29 03:49 |
| schestowitz | so this one would tail and reverse the logs | Jun 29 03:50 |
| schestowitz | let's see knotify interfaces... | Jun 29 03:51 |
| schestowitz | notify-send 'text' | Jun 29 03:54 |
| schestowitz | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/61623833/how-to-pipe-stderr-to-notify-send | Jun 29 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | shell - How to pipe stderr to notify-send? - Stack Overflow | Jun 29 03:58 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | 0 | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | notify-send will not work with piping | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | However, you can try: sudo pip install notify-pipe | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | Which accepts piping | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | See here: https://github.com/ron7/notify-pipe | Jun 29 03:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - ron7/notify-pipe: like notify-send just for pipes | Jun 29 03:58 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | Yuck, shithub everywhere | Jun 29 03:58 |
| schestowitz | tail -n1 /home/roy/.xchat2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-#boycottnovell-social.log | cut -c75-100 2>&1 | ./notify-pipe | Jun 29 04:11 |
| schestowitz | almost there now... | Jun 29 04:11 |
| schestowitz | cat /home/roy/notify-pipe | Jun 29 04:12 |
| schestowitz | #!/usr/bin/env sh | Jun 29 04:12 |
| schestowitz | read notification | Jun 29 04:12 |
| schestowitz | notify-send "Command Failed" "$notification" "$@" | Jun 29 04:12 |
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| schestowitz | Application Options: | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -u, --urgency=LEVEL Specifies the urgency level (low, normal, critical). | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -t, --expire-time=TIME Specifies the timeout in milliseconds at which to expire the notification. | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -a, --app-name=APP_NAME Specifies the app name for the icon | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -i, --icon=ICON[,ICON...] Specifies an icon filename or stock icon to display. | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -c, --category=TYPE[,TYPE...] Specifies the notification category. | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -h, --hint=TYPE:NAME:VALUE Specifies basic extra data to pass. Valid types are int, double, string and byte. | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | -v, --version Version of the package. | Jun 29 04:17 |
| schestowitz | https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Notifications | Jun 29 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-community.kde.org | Plasma/Notifications - KDE Community Wiki | Jun 29 04:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "even the one who took bill gates"> What about the program manager for Windows XP SP2, which fixed everything....? | Jun 29 04:32 |
| kingoffrance | i thought comcast was the one long ago that intercepted unknown dns lookups to take you to a search engine | Jun 29 04:34 |
| kingoffrance | you dont have to use their dns of course, but yeah | Jun 29 04:34 |
| kingoffrance | of course, there is no need for this helpful feature now | Jun 29 04:34 |
| kingoffrance | because browsers probably do it, it is built-in i suppose | Jun 29 04:35 |
| kingoffrance | you would only run into this feature i suppose nowadays if the browser didnt helpfully redirect you first | Jun 29 04:35 |
| kingoffrance | its like cascading clippys | Jun 29 04:36 |
| kingoffrance | you might avoid one, but theres another lurking in the background to guide you | Jun 29 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "you would only run into this fea"> No, AT&T still does it, and it does interfere with Firefox's search. | Jun 29 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unless you add a search box. | Jun 29 04:47 |
| kingoffrance | hmm | Jun 29 04:48 |
| kingoffrance | long ago, i dunno about now, you could make special bookmarks and then "g whatever" for google, something like put %s in the urls you bookmarked IIRC and assign a "prefix" | Jun 29 04:48 |
| kingoffrance | i guess that is still around | Jun 29 04:48 |
| kingoffrance | but they come with "default search engines" now too | Jun 29 04:49 |
| kingoffrance | i used to set things up the old way, so i always found the "set search engine when using address bar" to be weird | Jun 29 04:49 |
| kingoffrance | i guess they made it a gui thing nowadays | Jun 29 04:49 |
| kingoffrance | i.e. in preferences, not just "special bookmarks" | Jun 29 04:50 |
| kingoffrance | at least, thats what i remember: it used to be youd just make special bookmarks | Jun 29 04:50 |
| AVRS | Special bookmarks still work. | Jun 29 05:00 |
| AVRS | Bookmark keywords or keyword bookmarks… | Jun 29 05:01 |
| AVRS | Search engines also have keywords, but they work differently. | Jun 29 05:01 |
| AVRS | Those non-diversity statistics: https://blog.mozilla.org/careers/mozilla-diversity-inclusion-2019-results/ | Jun 29 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Diversity and Inclusion at Mozilla: Sharing Our 2019 Results – Life@Mozilla | Jun 29 05:07 | |
| AVRS | Could they be just because Mozilla Corporation is in California, and Hawaians live on Hawaii and "Latinx" near Mexico? | Jun 29 05:07 |
| AVRS | Ah, California is more South than I imagined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2010_US_Census_Hispanic_Population_by_County.svg | Jun 29 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | File:2010 US Census Hispanic Population by County.svg - Wikipedia | Jun 29 05:09 | |
| AVRS | Not sure they counted remote employees though. | Jun 29 05:09 |
| AVRS | gah, need to read first | Jun 29 05:10 |
| AVRS | "46% of employees work remotely" | Jun 29 05:10 |
| AVRS | but "38% of our employees are based outside the United States in one of 14 other countries (down from 39%)." | Jun 29 05:10 |
| AVRS | Why do US companies that suffer an SJW attack suddenly start CoC and diversity propaganda? | Jun 29 05:13 |
| AVRS | Did they simply foresee todays' events? | Jun 29 05:13 |
| kingoffrance | well some would say planned | Jun 29 05:23 |
| kingoffrance | but the "right" cant really say that | Jun 29 05:23 |
| kingoffrance | because they are in bed with corps too | Jun 29 05:24 |
| kingoffrance | so they cant be "the deep state" | Jun 29 05:24 |
| kingoffrance | it must be something else | Jun 29 05:24 |
| kingoffrance | wall street cant be the deep state, it must be elsewhere | Jun 29 05:24 |
| kingoffrance | theyll through soros or someone under the bus, but they cant ever say the whole thing is deep | Jun 29 05:25 |
| kingoffrance | s/through/throw/ | Jun 29 05:25 |
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| insmodppa | The latest F-Droid version causes the "Intent Filter Verification Service" to contact f-droid.org (expected), staging.f-droid.org (this is new), play.google.com, clients1.google.com, www.amazon.com and amazon.com. And I'm on an emulator with no Google services on it (with all the junk stripped out). | Jun 29 07:29 |
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| schestowitz | AVRS: I have NO issues with diversity | Jun 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz | but make a decent produict | Jun 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz | if the diversity push harms quality of the product, then we are compromising engineering to appease non-technical aspects | Jun 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz | and this point was often stressed before | Jun 29 08:20 |
| schestowitz | [05:10] <AVRS> but "38% of our employees are based outside the United States in one of 14 other countries (down from 39%)." | Jun 29 08:21 |
| schestowitz | remote work is also dangerous | Jun 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | the way I see it, it is a stepping stone | Jun 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | no more offices with physical presence | Jun 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | so people are lodged in a box away somewhere | Jun 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | and replacing them with cheaper labour somewhere else has zero direct impact on operations | Jun 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | 3 layoff rounds at Microsoft this past month alone | Jun 29 08:22 |
| schestowitz | MSN, Mixer, Stores. | Jun 29 08:23 |
| schestowitz | IBM said it had put 95% at home working | Jun 29 08:23 |
| schestowitz | it'll sack thousands shortly, it already named the states affected, only 5 US states | Jun 29 08:23 |
| schestowitz | including NC, where RHT is predominantly based inc. the workforce | Jun 29 08:23 |
| schestowitz | Many people forget that... | Jun 29 08:24 |
| schestowitz | being a well paid employee | Jun 29 08:24 |
| schestowitz | means being an "Expensive" employee | Jun 29 08:24 |
| schestowitz | which can in turn harm job security | Jun 29 08:24 |
| schestowitz | they aim to replace the seniors ones who wage as per the promotion ladder is "obscene" | Jun 29 08:24 |
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| schestowitz | I am doing to do a mere about MS Stores | Jun 29 08:34 |
| schestowitz | *going | Jun 29 08:34 |
| schestowitz | *meme | Jun 29 08:34 |
| schestowitz | I need to wake up properly, only had 2.5 hours of sleep | Jun 29 08:35 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine how they ever had retail stores or who would shop there. | Jun 29 08:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then again, that's most stuff at the mall. | Jun 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/06/29/monday-no-microsoft-stores/ | Jun 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz | notice what they did there to workers | Jun 29 08:50 |
| schestowitz | telling them they're laid off, later on friday | Jun 29 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Monday Without Microsoft Stores | Techrights | Jun 29 08:51 | |
| schestowitz | not sure what time exactly, maybe 5pm, maybe 7pm | Jun 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | unethical and deeply cruel | Jun 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | but... that's Microsoft! | Jun 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | you can see the timestamp, hang on | Jun 29 08:51 |
| schestowitz | late friday news: techrights.org/2020/06/27/microsoft-friday-layoffs/ | Jun 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | original from msft techrights.org/2020/06/27/microsoft-layoffs-spin-2020/ | Jun 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... it says the date | Jun 29 08:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It gives them an out. | Jun 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | not the same | Jun 29 08:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Blame the virus. | Jun 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe for a reason ;-) | Jun 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | yeah, I know | Jun 29 08:52 |
| schestowitz | that is what they did, see the second link | Jun 29 08:53 |
| schestowitz | I 'corrected' the reports | Jun 29 08:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That's not just them. Those stores filing bankruptcy now all had problems well before this. | Jun 29 08:53 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but... | Jun 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | that does not mean they're somehow special | Jun 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | I am just pointing out their biz model is broken | Jun 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | our firm is mostly decentralised and home working since 2011 | Jun 29 08:54 |
| schestowitz | so to us the whole thing is like... OK... well, no change here, and... in fact, if you need people to monitor your biz 24/7 we're already experienced in that... no adaptation needed | Jun 29 08:55 |
| schestowitz | Amazon is not remote working | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | they have | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | 1) warehouses | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | 2) suppliers | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | 3) couriers | Jun 29 08:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think the focus on consumer stuff is fading fast. | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | they just brush under the carpet to what extend they're exposing their own people mostly to covid-10 | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | covid-19 | Jun 29 08:56 |
| schestowitz | tim bray rage-quit the company over this | Jun 29 08:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's not much of a market for high end stuff with Windows. | Jun 29 08:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Zune and their phone flopped. | Jun 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | the receivers of parcels can leave the packages on the floor for a few days to let any remnants of viruses die off | Jun 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Azure is a failure | Jun 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | around for like over hald a decadf | Jun 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | apparently still losing money | Jun 29 08:57 |
| schestowitz | and we don't really get told its real market share | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | after much spam ('ads') and lies and astroturfed media | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | aws is still 'king' or 'cloud' | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | or clown as we call it | Jun 29 08:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft plasters ads all over reddit. | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | amazon hardly even needed to advertise/spam its services | Jun 29 08:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, how can they be losing this much money for this long? | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | see the following | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | and tell me your thoughts...: | Jun 29 08:58 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/02/03/azure-lies/ | Jun 29 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft “Azure” (or “Cloud”) Results Are Most Likely an Elaborate Fraud | Techrights | Jun 29 08:59 | |
| schestowitz | based on a Microsoft whistleblower and techrights ally: http://techrights.org/2019/10/10/azure-is-losing-money/ | Jun 29 08:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Azure Apparently Losing Money and Microsoft Lies to Shareholders, in Effect Breaking the Law | Techrights | Jun 29 08:59 | |
| schestowitz | the corrporate media in MSFT's pocket says they have many cash reserves overseas | Jun 29 08:59 |
| schestowitz | but I am sceptical of any such claims | Jun 29 08:59 |
| schestowitz | they show amazon, apple, google, microsoft etc. | Jun 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | say they have like hundreds of billions in 'offshore assets' | Jun 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | but for all we know those numbers may be based on calculations that aren't taking robbing execs into account | Jun 29 09:00 |
| schestowitz | gates, ballmer etc. they probably do have their offshore accounts | Jun 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | as for Microsoft, who knows what's really in its accounts, there might even be debt | Jun 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | the debtors won't tell | Jun 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | many companies like to talk about how much money they have in the bank | Jun 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | even if that money is loaned | Jun 29 09:01 |
| schestowitz | we have our lessons from 2008 | Jun 29 09:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I think Apple is probably above water right now. I just don't know what Microsoft makes that anyone could possibly have a use for. | Jun 29 09:04 |
| Narrator | well | Jun 29 09:06 |
| Narrator | uncle sam will print some money ... | Jun 29 09:07 |
| schestowitz | so savers will lose their money's value | Jun 29 09:07 |
| schestowitz | that's just punishing what's left of who's holding what's left of this economy | Jun 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: they lose loads of money on github | Jun 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | also, I suppose linkedin suffers... hardly any new hirings | Jun 29 09:08 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ | Jun 29 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights | Jun 29 09:09 | |
| schestowitz | now it's just the social control 'business' | Jun 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | which suffers ad boycotts | Jun 29 09:09 |
| schestowitz | [08:26] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): ● NEWS ● #Bloomberg #Surveillance ☞ #Starbucks to Pause Advertising on All #SocialControlMedia Platforms https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-28/starbucks-to-pause-advertising-on-all-social-media-platforms bad company, but GOOD move! [https://pleroma.site/objects/f585ffc5-a238-420e-88b4-e617c8aabbc9] | Jun 29 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Jun 29 09:10 | |
| schestowitz | [08:26] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): ● NEWS ● #TheVerge #Surveillance ☞ #Starbucks is the latest big company to halt advertising on social media https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/28/21306065/starbucks-advertising-social-media-july-facebook-twitter | Jun 29 09:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jun 29 09:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Starbucks to halt advertising on social media - The Verge | Jun 29 09:10 | |
| schestowitz | Re: Inconsequential update | Jun 29 09:13 |
| schestowitz | > Hi, | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > Please find attached a piece which addresses our concerns: "The GNU Project is Bleeding into Microsoft" | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > Thomas Grzybowski | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > Oh, the license is my usual, the Attribution-ShareAlike | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > CC BY-SA. | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > Tom | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | good, just got that long-awaited piece... | Jun 29 09:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pulling ads will hurt Facebook. Promoting Trump has a price tag now. | Jun 29 09:14 |
| schestowitz | Thank you :-) I will try to come up with a suitable image/photo | Jun 29 09:14 |
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| AVRS | schestowitz: the issue is not diversity, but on what pretext the diversity propaganda starts, you know. | Jun 29 12:20 |
| schestowitz | published 2 mins ago: http://techrights.org/2020/06/29/jedi-feminism/ | Jun 29 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Humour] Nothing Says Feminism Like Microsoft Corporation, JEDI Winner | Techrights | Jun 29 12:22 | |
| AVRS | schestowitz: and the consistency on it | Jun 29 12:22 |
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| xwindows | yo wassup? | Jun 29 12:23 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: how is the second part actually related to Microsoft? | Jun 29 12:24 |
| AVRS | the bottom part | Jun 29 12:24 |
| xwindows | ping .. | Jun 29 12:28 |
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| AVRS | xwindows:pong | Jun 29 12:29 |
| *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Jun 29 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | JEDI | Jun 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz | I left out a link | Jun 29 12:29 |
| schestowitz | but I added it to the title | Jun 29 12:29 |
| AVRS | OK; I'm not really familiar with Star Wars. | Jun 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz | it is not star wars | Jun 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz | it's offensive that pentagon thugs even called it 'JEDI" | Jun 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz | as if war is a movie or entertainment | Jun 29 12:31 |
| schestowitz | look up "Microsoft JEDI" | Jun 29 12:31 |
| AVRS | ouch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Enterprise_Defense_Infrastructure | Jun 29 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure - Wikipedia | Jun 29 12:32 | |
| MinceR | there's also https://sourceforge.net/projects/jedi-sdl/ | Jun 29 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-JEDI-SDL : Pascal headers for SDL download | SourceForge.net | Jun 29 12:32 | |
| AVRS | Microsoft just was the one who won it | Jun 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz | Google quit the race | Jun 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz | after staff had protested | Jun 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz | but not Microsoft and Amazon | Jun 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz | Oracle, IBM and Amazon competed for CIA contracts | Jun 29 12:34 |
| schestowitz | and it tells us a lot about those companies' culture | Jun 29 12:34 |
| AVRS | MinceR: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedi_(disambiguation) | Jun 29 12:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Jedi (disambiguation) - Wikipedia | Jun 29 12:34 | |
| xwindows | Is it wise putting your defence infrastructure in the "cloud" | Jun 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | clown computing | Jun 29 12:35 |
| xwindows | haaa .. | Jun 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | it's wise if you want to help your enemies | Jun 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | we already hear about how PRC and GRU infiltrated computer systems of the US Army | Jun 29 12:35 |
| xwindows | It's just an excuse to spend loads of money ? | Jun 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | So they thought, heck... might as well make it easier | Jun 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz | helps keep Microsoft afloat on BlackBudget | Jun 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz | So they spread Windows back doors to users in Russia and China | Jun 29 12:36 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: same about the US owning Russian state stuff since the USSR "fell apart" | Jun 29 12:36 |
| schestowitz | Azure was dying, probably still is... | Jun 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz | JEDI is like bailout | Jun 29 12:37 |
| AVRS | the most serious serious accusation was about there being a US embassy or something on the top floor of something financial. | Jun 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/10/30/bailed-out-by-militarism/ | Jun 29 12:37 |
| xwindows | Bailout: state welfare .. | Jun 29 12:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Looking to be ‘Bailed Out’ by Militarism, Imperialism, Racism and Fascism | Techrights | Jun 29 12:37 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft in a nutshell, the 'new Microsoft' | Jun 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz | but they have a Nadella CEO and some women in exec tier, so it's OK | Jun 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | nobody will accuse them of helping Trump, either... | Jun 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | They even remove "master" from GitHub | Jun 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | while helping ICE | Jun 29 12:38 |
| xwindows | replace master with "uber" :] | Jun 29 12:38 |
| AVRS | schestowitz: and that "master" had no "slave" | Jun 29 12:39 |
| schestowitz | unter | Jun 29 12:39 |
| schestowitz | maybe the masterplan is just to irritate projects | Jun 29 12:39 |
| AVRS | probably just a "master copy"? | Jun 29 12:39 |
| schestowitz | I bet those trolls masturbate to the outcome of their trolling over words | Jun 29 12:39 |
| schestowitz | [12:37] <xwindows> Bailout: state welfare .. | Jun 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Jun 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | it's looting | Jun 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | with suits and suitcases | Jun 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | and private jets | Jun 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | and "lobbyists" and "campaign contributions" | Jun 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | the real deal, the "professional" stuff | Jun 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | do it right... you might even become US President one day... :-) grab the White House by the Poo-Poo | Jun 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | managing your seventh bankruptcy, but this time with rifles and grenade launchers in DC | Jun 29 12:41 |
| AVRS | https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/12089#issuecomment-644039221 "I am an orphan and the use of the word "parent" also causes me significant trauma," | Jun 29 12:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Better words by richsalz · Pull Request #12089 · openssl/openssl · GitHub | Jun 29 12:42 | |
| xwindows | All that urban pacification gear has to be paid for, by someone. | Jun 29 12:42 |
| AVRS | In a different project, somebody joked that since the word "robot" is based on "slave", it should be replaced… Not everyone understood the sarcasm | Jun 29 12:43 |
| AVRS | apparently. | Jun 29 12:43 |
| xwindows | I get triggered by master-slave flip-flop :] | Jun 29 12:43 |
| xwindows | robotnik == worker in Check, I think .. | Jun 29 12:44 |
| xwindows | Czech .. | Jun 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/16/offensive-words/ | Jun 29 12:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Offensive Words We Should Uproot and Eliminate From Technology | Techrights | Jun 29 12:44 | |
| AVRS | Well, Slavic work is a cognate of slavery anyway. | Jun 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | work is usually a form of slavery | Jun 29 12:45 |
| AVRS | "Slavic" also is said to be. :-) | Jun 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | some are "enhanced slavery" | Jun 29 12:45 |
| XRevan86 | xwindows: It's that way in all Slavic languages. | Jun 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | like "enhanced interrogation" | Jun 29 12:45 |
| xwindows | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoHjfCMKHjE | Jun 29 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Want To Be A Robot (Czechoslovakia 1986) - YouTube | Jun 29 12:45 | |
| XRevan86 | xwindows: Except in South Slavic and Russian (OCS influence) it's rabotnik. | Jun 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | sweatshops, child labour etc. | Jun 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | prison labour | Jun 29 12:46 |
| XRevan86 | Technically, in Belarusian it's also "rabotnik", but the trick here is that it reflects vowel reduction in spelling. | Jun 29 12:47 |
| XRevan86 | i.e. akanye | Jun 29 12:48 |
| xwindows | Why is this still happening: "UCSF forced to pay ransom to perpetrators of malware attack" | Jun 29 12:48 |
| xwindows | https://www.ktvu.com/news/ucsf-forced-to-pay-ransom-to-perpetrators-of-malware-attack | Jun 29 12:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UCSF forced to pay ransom to perpetrators of malware attack | KTVU FOX 2 | Jun 29 12:48 | |
| xwindows | .. back in five .. | Jun 29 12:49 |
| schestowitz | kk | Jun 29 12:51 |
| xwindows | guess what OS ... | Jun 29 12:53 |
| xwindows | It's deja vu all over again .. I feel I'm stuck in "Ground Hog Day" | Jun 29 12:54 |
| xwindows | "he university said it is working with a cyber-security consultant" | Jun 29 12:55 |
| xwindows | Haaaa .... haaaaH | Jun 29 12:55 |
| schestowitz | https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-visual-studio-tools-2.5.2-released | Jun 29 12:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Qt Visual Studio Tools 2.5.2 Released | Jun 29 12:56 | |
| schestowitz | not so cute, qt | Jun 29 12:56 |
| schestowitz | #qt may soon become #ProprietarySoftware so hey, why not also get down on their knees and lick the #microsoft boot? | Jun 29 12:56 |
| xwindows | Resistance is Futile! | Jun 29 12:58 |
| xwindows | https://www.techmarketview.com/ukhotviews/archive/2020/06/29/ukcloud-signs-mou-with-uk-government | Jun 29 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UKCloud signs MoU with UK Government | TechMarketView | Jun 29 13:02 | |
| xwindows | https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-sent-millions-of-face-masks-to-china-early-this-year-ignoring-pandemic-warning-signs/2020/04/18/aaccf54a-7ff5-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html | Jun 29 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | U.S. sent millions of face masks to China early this year, ignoring pandemic warning signs - The Washington Post | Jun 29 13:08 | |
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| xwindows | hi there gde33 | Jun 29 13:11 |
| oiaohm | xwindows: sending the masks was not the problem its the lack of boarder control in response to pandemic notice. | Jun 29 13:19 |
| xwindows | It's a shambles .. the problem is too much of government has been outsourced to the private sector. | Jun 29 13:20 |
| oiaohm | Even when it has not been outsourced there has been major miss management. | Jun 29 13:21 |
| oiaohm | Australia has good examples of that. | Jun 29 13:21 |
| oiaohm | Lot of boarder control has got lazy over the years lightly lethal viruses. | Jun 29 13:22 |
| xwindows | They were importing masks here and at the same time exporting them! | Jun 29 13:23 |
| xwindows | https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/20/exclusivemillions-pieces-ppe-shipped-britain-europe-despite/ | Jun 29 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | Exclusive: Millions of pieces of PPE being shipped from Britain to Europe despite NHS shortages | Jun 29 13:27 | |
| xwindows | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52569364 | Jun 29 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Coronavirus PPE: Gowns ordered from Turkey fail to meet safety standards - BBC News | Jun 29 13:28 | |
| xwindows | It's clown city .. | Jun 29 13:28 |
| MinceR | 29 135530 < xwindows> "he university said it is working with a cyber-security consultant" | Jun 29 13:31 |
| MinceR | https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120614/01590919314/cyberpolitics-cyberbellicosity-cyberpushing-cybersecurity-to-cyberprevent-cyberwar.shtml | Jun 29 13:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Cyberpolitics Of Cyberbellicosity Cyberpushing Cybersecurity To Cyberprevent Cyberwar | Techdirt | Jun 29 13:31 | |
| xwindows | Nice one .. from 2012 .. am i stuck in a closed time line ? | Jun 29 13:33 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Jun 29 13:34 |
| xwindows | What next, putting voting machines on the Internet? | Jun 29 13:34 |
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| MinceR | :> | Jun 29 13:35 |
| xwindows | Oh, wait, that already happened! | Jun 29 13:35 |
| MinceR | and running Backdoors on them | Jun 29 13:35 |
| xwindows | But the machines are certified and run in the "Cloud" { | Jun 29 13:36 |
| xwindows | Who owns this: CIS Center for Internet Security: | Jun 29 13:44 |
| xwindows | https://www.cisecurity.org/cis-hardened-image-list/ | Jun 29 13:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisecurity.org | CIS Hardened Images® – Platforms | Jun 29 13:44 | |
| xwindows | Oh, we get a video .. | Jun 29 13:45 |
| MinceR | Confederacy of Independent Systems? | Jun 29 13:45 |
| xwindows | "Delivering Security in the Cloud" .. on Azure :o | Jun 29 13:46 |
| MinceR | lol | Jun 29 13:46 |
| xwindows | https://youtu.be/HioINKsTw4o | Jun 29 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube | Jun 29 13:46 | |
| MinceR | delivering users from security | Jun 29 13:46 |
| xwindows | More like CIS marketing waffle | Jun 29 13:48 |
| xwindows | "Available on AWS Marketplace including the AWS GovCloud (US) region" | Jun 29 13:49 |
| xwindows | back in ten .. | Jun 29 13:50 |
| xwindows | Why do i need a CIS Hardened Images, if the "Cloud" is secure? | Jun 29 13:57 |
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| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/staying-married | Jun 29 16:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Staying Married | Jun 29 16:28 | |
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| zoobab | hi | Jun 29 17:38 |
| zoobab | I think Germany is abusing the Withdrawal Agreement to say they can ratify the UPC with UK in: | Jun 29 17:38 |
| zoobab | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1277606067703349248 | Jun 29 17:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: UPC boosters are using the Withdrawal Agreement art6 to justify that Germany can sign the UPC by 31st dec?: "during… https://t.co/wwQWHnJjyt | Jun 29 17:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: UPC boosters are using the Withdrawal Agreement art6 to justify that Germany can sign the UPC by 31st dec?: "during… https://t.co/wwQWHnJjyt | Jun 29 17:39 | |
| zoobab | "during the transition period, the UK is treated as a Member State of the Union and of Euratom for the purposes of these international agreements." | Jun 29 17:39 |
| zoobab | https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/model-note-verbale-international-partners_en.pdf | Jun 29 17:39 |
| zoobab | since UPC is not yet into force, it is not part of those "international agreements" | Jun 29 17:40 |
| schestowitz | they just lie | Jun 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | mock them | Jun 29 17:52 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: a press release from ffii would be more effective then tweets | Jun 29 17:53 |
| schestowitz | it would be visible and easy to locate years down the line, or even cite | Jun 29 17:53 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/96c5vucizq751.jpg | Jun 29 18:14 |
| MinceR | https://i.redd.it/326hdh8e4v751.jpg | Jun 29 18:15 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: DeaDBeeF Player 1.8.4 Released with Updated Soundtouch Plugin http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139293 [https://pleroma.site/objects/57824935-abb9-4839-b3c8-aac5c7bab209] | Jun 29 18:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNOME Shell’s Icon Grid Could See Almost Double The Performance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139294 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a64f8fb8-76c8-440a-8c55-76f3dbd24150] | Jun 29 19:00 | |
| zoobab | I need first to understand the legal reasoning behind it | Jun 29 19:03 |
| zoobab | because nobody have explained it publicly up to now | Jun 29 19:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Now firmware can depend on available client features [https://pleroma.site/objects/e6c120d6-b265-4870-a8d1-ce0a44c6ae29] | Jun 29 19:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Now #firmware can depend on available client features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139295 #kernel #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/10f97129-3411-4962-bbe5-9b1ef52bdd75] | Jun 29 19:05 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139296 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9c323a5d-5157-41e9-a076-60b8bdff2c9e] | Jun 29 19:12 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: First video overview of #linuxmint 20 that we’ve found (after release was made official) http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139223#comment-25622 [https://pleroma.site/objects/377e8d3b-dc39-438d-8f73-7d15ac2feb33] | Jun 29 19:18 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security: Patches, Josh Bressers, FUD and NIST 800-53 Revision 4 Mappings for Wind River Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139297 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1fdce560-5d62-4466-aa67-f052b0bdc81e] | Jun 29 19:25 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | > JEDI is like bailout | Jun 29 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bingo. If the US government relies on it then it must continue to work, so they'll steer other government contracts to Microsoft to make sure they don't go under. | Jun 29 19:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139298 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0a6ac091-00d3-4973-9de2-72eed9968af4] | Jun 29 19:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | They want a central point of failure now, I guess. In the before time of the long long ago, they propped up AMD because they demanded two vendors of x86 in case Intel flopped and left them with a ton of software that still needed to run. | Jun 29 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they want the Microsoft Clown as their central point of failure. | Jun 29 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course the bizarre twist is that Intel now, basically, has flopped. The only one that sells x86 CPUs that aren't more bugs than good design is AMD. It's like that Austin Powers movie where Dr. Evil spends 20 minutes detailing his evil plans to hold the world hostage and Number Two keeps interrupting to tell him it already happened. | Jun 29 19:32 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139299 [https://pleroma.site/objects/eb95019e-67db-47e0-b9dc-1e117cbff5de] | Jun 29 19:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Azure JEDI will fail and either crash hard, send classified documents to the Chinese, or both, because Microsoft has never bothered to make a good product or even hire a person who is capable. They're a company full of lawyers and evil snakes in business suits. | Jun 29 19:35 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: MiniDebConfOnline 2020, BTS and Cinnamon 4.6 for Debian GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139300 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b8e404e6-e55c-47e0-a94e-5c5ff625f9ce] | Jun 29 19:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government never has done a Microsoft contract that worked right. They've always had to give up after wasting a metric assload of tax money and go with Linux instead after Windows strands an Arleigh Burke class Guided Missile Destroyer at port....or Chinese malware infests a Reaper Drone control system. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. | Jun 29 19:38 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE: Web Site, SPDX and Krita http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139301 [https://pleroma.site/objects/61dd89ab-0c75-40ec-aa80-b815e8596219] | Jun 29 19:40 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was.....amused at just how old some of the software the government/banking systems are on. There's apparently some servers in Congress that are on Solaris 8, and Wells Fargo Bank was using Solaris 8 and Windows 2000 past EOL (with support contracts). | Jun 29 19:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then somehow if they "upgrade" from Solaris 8/9 to Windows Server (current edition) everything that had been working fine, still, somehow, falls over dead. | Jun 29 19:41 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Ubuntu and Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139302 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d14fadaa-f3c6-4173-b92c-0e8606590265] | Jun 29 19:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 29/6/2020: GnuCash 4.0, Firefox 78 Available http://techrights.org/2020/06/29/firefox-78-available/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/6963551e-2f87-4c3b-b460-d9139f6f0eef] | Jun 29 19:52 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Cadmus is a new #Linux UI for managing microphone noise suppression http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139303 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aceeaf23-1d90-4439-8e73-572ba4fe9b7a] | Jun 29 20:03 | |
| schestowitz | [19:28] <DaemonFC[m]> Bingo. If the US government relies on it then it must continue to work, so they'll steer other government contracts to Microsoft to make sure they don't go under. | Jun 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | Glad you agree | Jun 29 20:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: just caught up with what you wrote. Well said. | Jun 29 20:07 |
| schestowitz | https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries | Jun 29 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | Coronavirus Update (Live): 10,335,034 Cases and 506,097 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer | Jun 29 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not thrilled with Amazon, but if they're successful, it will badly wound Microsoft. | Jun 29 20:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So something good comes of it. | Jun 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | yes, but... | Jun 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | Ryan, bear in mind we're in it for the long haul | Jun 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | if we replace Microsoft with a lesser evil it's like Biden for Trump | Jun 29 20:08 |
| schestowitz | and then we're still dealing with his Iraq invasion, Wall Street bailouts, bribed-for copyright law | Jun 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I think JEDI will happen one way or another. The preferable way in that context is to watch Microsoft crash and burn. | Jun 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/10/the-bezos-leaning-ploy/ | Jun 29 20:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | AWS is Not GNU/Linux and AWS Certification is a Bezos-Leaning Ploy That Rewards People for Memorising Proprietary Interfaces (Vendor Lock-in) | Techrights | Jun 29 20:09 | |
| schestowitz | we must not focus on one single company at the time | Jun 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | but the concept and the underlying issues | Jun 29 20:09 |
| schestowitz | otherwise you just deal with a punctured boat one hole at a time | Jun 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems Amazon's lawsuit mostly focuses on corrupt and unfair bidding practices. None of that is new for Trump, of course. They give his campaign money and then they get a contract. Sometimes they file bankruptcy as soon as the ink is dry and then someone else has to do the work and get paid (again). | Jun 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Happened with the Census too. The printing contract. | Jun 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | AWS has been swallowing a lot too and it's hurting stores where we can buy anonymously, try and touch the stuff before buying | Jun 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also the one to get power back on in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria. | Jun 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | not to mention listening devices of Amazon, which seem to have slowed down because some people push bash | Jun 29 20:10 |
| schestowitz | *back | Jun 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | JEDI is disgusting, but the bidding process is disgusting too. | Jun 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes, that's the political angle of it all | Jun 29 20:11 |
| schestowitz | then there's the bribes | Jun 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're getting fucked by JEDI, as it's part of mass surveillance, but the government didn't even get a good deal on it. | Jun 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Didn't even try to. | Jun 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump is running the entire government as emoluments. He even rigged up Medicare to give seniors cheap insulin to shore up the 65+ vote. | Jun 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This can't possibly get worse under Biden. | Jun 29 20:12 |
| schestowitz | We were gonna do an article about JEDI | Jun 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Companies like Microsoft thrive when a guy like Trump is around. There isn't even the pretense of a bidding process. The bidding is how big the check to Trump is. | Jun 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | then some stupid university in London sort of muzzled our intern who had been working on a story about it | Jun 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | and they just slandered me, too | Jun 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I think we need to talk about how we even got to where Microsoft got JEDI in the first place. | Jun 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft controls much of the election process this year | Jun 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | so they might even recipricate | Jun 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's corrupt "government as emoluments" "bidding" process. | Jun 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | reciprocate | Jun 29 20:13 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/ | Jun 29 20:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | Techrights | Jun 29 20:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | As far as COVID-19, it's possible that the death rate going forward could go down because it already killed many people who were the most likely to die of it. | Jun 29 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not to say that the numbers will be small, just that it will take more cases being diagnosed to have the same number ultimately die. | Jun 29 20:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Consider that it's killed about 400 people in Lake County, IL and that about 70% of them were in nursing homes. | Jun 29 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If this virus was spreading through Nazi Germany, they'd be about as indifferent to it as Trump. | Jun 29 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They would have already "compassionately killed" most of the same people the virus would have to save taxpayer money. | Jun 29 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It wouldn't have a high death toll, because the Nazis just killed anyone who was a burden to the state. | Jun 29 20:19 |
| MinceR | lightly killed | Jun 29 20:20 |
| MinceR | "Oh, we use only the finest baby frogs, dew-picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in the finest quality spring water, lightly killed, and sealed in a succulent, Swiss, quintuple-smooth, treble-milk chocolate envelope, and lovingly frosted with glucose." | Jun 29 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can see how much like Nazi Germany a particular US state is by proxy of how severe the shutdown was there. Some governors just brushed it aside and never did anything. All Republicans. | Jun 29 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What shocked me is how quickly Mississippi moved to remove the Confederate Battle Flag from their state flag. Then I saw why. | Jun 29 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The voters can approve a new flag design, but it must say "In God We Trust" somewhere on it. | Jun 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they vote it down, then it goes back to the commission, but it still has to say "In God We Trust". | Jun 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I lived there, I'd keep rejecting the new flag. The current state flag loses its official status immediately when the bill is signed, so as long as voters keep rejecting the new ones, there is no flag. So there's no Confederate Flag, and no In God We Trust flag. | Jun 29 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Vote to reject it. Keep doing that. | Jun 29 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In theory, there's never a new state flag and people can just keep saying no forever. | Jun 29 20:23 |
| MinceR | can you find room along all the sponsors' logos/names? | Jun 29 20:24 |
| MinceR | how much can this "god" afford to pay annually to have his name on there? | Jun 29 20:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They think that they can get God on the flag because people are repulsed by the stars and bars, but the stars and bars are gone as soon as the bill becomes law. | Jun 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you're not voting to keep it. | Jun 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I doubt people are that smart. | Jun 29 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plus black people adopted the religion of their slavers and seem to take it seriously. | Jun 29 20:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of ridiculous that they're pulling down Christopher Columbus statues and they're staying in a church established by their slavers to legitimize owning people, raping them, and beating them for insolence. | Jun 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That bible has done a lot more damage than the Confederate flag ever did. | Jun 29 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why would slaves, freed slaves at that, foist the religion of their oppressors onto their children. If there' a generational curse, it's Southern Baptists. | Jun 29 20:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: same thing happened in PH | Jun 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All these years later, the government is still throwing guns at them six ways to Sunday so they'll murder and prey on each other and then pray that God will be merciful. Fucking horseshit. | Jun 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | The conquerors made the colonised even more devour Catholics than the occupying force | Jun 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | *devout | Jun 29 20:31 |
| schestowitz | [20:29] <DaemonFC[m]> That bible has done a lot more damage than the Confederate flag ever did. | Jun 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | The flag is emancipated or derived from religious dogma as justifier | Jun 29 20:32 |
| schestowitz | not everyone took the Bible to mean the same thing | Jun 29 20:32 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/pirate | Jun 29 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Pirate | Jun 29 20:32 | |
| schestowitz | so the flag is one particular aspect of Holy Book/Crook | Jun 29 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the church is a blunt tool of colonization and slavery. It has a really bad legacy, and why would free people stick to that? | Jun 29 20:35 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 146 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139304 #gnu #linux #security [https://pleroma.site/objects/4ea1f7c3-fe58-4d7b-98e4-65e890e597ae] | Jun 29 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's ignorance. | Jun 29 20:35 |
| MinceR | one generation brainwashes the next | Jun 29 20:36 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenSUSE Leap 15.2 set for release http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139305 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6217e2a6-35e7-4aa0-be62-3d6d56329197] | Jun 29 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | John mentioned how superstitious black people are. | Jun 29 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, many are almost as bad about that as my mom. | Jun 29 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hmm, probably need to get an oil change soon. I was hoping to put this off until the Coronavirus calms down. | Jun 29 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It appears that things are, in fact, about to calm up. (Teal'c) | Jun 29 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe if we give Trump another 4 years it'll be full on Walking Dead and I can just take any car I want. | Jun 29 20:40 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Future of Linux: The Linux 5.9 Release, 5.8 Performance, Torvalds on Kernel Size http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139306 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f43f2d4a-6f7f-4e78-9c16-a58d9ec6aadd] | Jun 29 20:42 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: this is class related | Jun 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | economics | Jun 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | access to higher ed | Jun 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | not a "black" thing | Jun 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | the superstition is superfluous where people lack understanding of some sciences because they can reconcile the delusions within themsekves | Jun 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | check which states in the US have many atheists | Jun 29 20:43 |
| schestowitz | more likely to be found where rents are high and jobs are more 'sophisticated' | Jun 29 20:44 |
| schestowitz | like "bay area" | Jun 29 20:44 |
| schestowitz | fancy name for SF area | Jun 29 20:44 |
| schestowitz | [20:46] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): How quickly we are to remove words and statues that represent #slavery and not the 'holy' books that justified (and to some degree continue to justify) slavery. Because that would be "intolerant"... [https://pleroma.site/objects/d6221a5b-091d-4f0f-a948-1fdf16984d62] | Jun 29 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Jun 29 20:47 | |
| schestowitz | http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36679/ | Jun 29 21:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: Just one notice : Linux Mint 20 “Ulyana” Is Now Available for Download, Here’s What’s New | Jun 29 21:00 | |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | Jun 27, 2020 | Jun 29 21:00 |
| schestowitz | 3:47 AM EDT I experienced one issue attempting to install Mint 20 as KVM guest. | Jun 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | lxer forums mostly dead these days | Jun 29 21:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe 10 posts per month, 3 topics | Jun 29 21:01 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GnuCash 4.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139283#comment-25623 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c6fd1c98-267b-4e2a-82b7-dd908234286f] | Jun 29 21:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Data centre automation for HPC http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139307 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7859a11a-af27-407b-96c3-ac6a09fae41d] | Jun 29 21:13 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IPFire Linux Firewall Discontinues Support for 32-Bit Systems with PAE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139304#comment-25624 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1674cbbf-5028-4021-9aad-236bb2a56f13] | Jun 29 21:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 4MLinux 34.0 BETA released. http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139308 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e762f61a-0273-46fe-9659-711a93b0477d] | Jun 29 21:41 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/26/83852a9b22e71960.jpg | Jun 29 21:47 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 3 Months From Home http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139309 [https://pleroma.site/objects/36b4e2d4-dd96-4db8-ab48-96ad903df850] | Jun 29 21:56 | |
| oiaohm | https://apple.slashdot.org/story/20/06/29/1853223/apple-strong-arms-entire-ca-industry-into-one-year-certificate-lifespans this is going to be fun for web development. | Jun 29 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-apple.slashdot.org | Apple Strong-Arms Entire CA Industry Into One-Year Certificate Lifespans - Slashdot | Jun 29 22:02 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The idea is that bad ones that CAs won't get around to revoking expire faster. | Jun 29 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it would be better to just de-list CAs that have a bad habit of doing that from the browser's certificate store. | Jun 29 22:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: mozregression GUI: now available for Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/139310 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aa155878-25d1-4f82-b3da-5788667732d0] | Jun 29 22:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The credit card company sent Mandy his first statement and they got his middle initial wrong. | Jun 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | so? | Jun 29 22:05 |
| MinceR | i think it would be better to replace this ridiculous PKI system with something that's more likely to work | Jun 29 22:06 |
| MinceR | like Web of Trust | Jun 29 22:06 |
| schestowitz | 31,274 new cases and 227 new deaths in the United States | Jun 29 22:06 |
| schestowitz | it'll be over 40k again today | Jun 29 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, crappy banks. This is the company that basically sends cards out to people's dogs. | Jun 29 22:06 |
| schestowitz | based on how prior days added up by 9am | Jun 29 22:06 |
| schestowitz | 9pm rather | Jun 29 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't really even worry about their sloppiness because it's easier to eat a few bad accounts than not send out tons of cards to people. | Jun 29 22:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: cardboard boxes for their poop | Jun 29 22:07 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: really you don't need revoking that much if life span is short enough. This brings it back to 1 year from how ever long needing to check revoke lists. I wounder how long until max life span of a TLS matches the Let's Encrypt 90 days. | Jun 29 22:07 |
| schestowitz | those card are very cheap to mass-produce | Jun 29 22:07 |
| schestowitz | and bits of plastic make some people feel special and important | Jun 29 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Getting things right would mean issuing way fewer accounts and they'd make less money. | Jun 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | like people who walk around with keychains that have 30 keys on them | Jun 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | 20 of which no longer work with anything and 8 probably barely used for anything | Jun 29 22:08 |
| schestowitz | all they really need is front door+carkeys | Jun 29 22:08 |
| oiaohm | Really that one of sending out cards to what and who ever changed here in Australia when a person won in court that it had to be a gift so never had to be paid back. | Jun 29 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: This one makes our groceries cheaper as long as we shop online. | Jun 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | drop the purse, leave the massive keychain home, your stupid "smart' phone impresses nobody either :-) | Jun 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | they don't send cards here | Jun 29 22:09 |
| schestowitz | they send only offers of cards | Jun 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, some restaurant owner successfully argued in Chicago bankruptcy court that a Force Majeur clause his landlord slipped into his lease protected him from paying his rent. | Jun 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well played! | Jun 29 22:10 |
| schestowitz | so you need to ask for one to establish consent, I assume... I get those like a dozen times a year... at least half a dozen | Jun 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *Force majeure rather | Jun 29 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically, the landlord slipped it in there to abdicate their responsibility if the government made it impossible to operate, but the way it was worded actually protected the tenant too. | Jun 29 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure the boilerplate will be changed to only protect landlords from now on. | Jun 29 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the restaurant filed Chapter 11, and the landlord files an adversarial proceeding against them wanting to be exempted from the automatic stay so they could continue to collect rent. | Jun 29 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The tenant successfully argued that, bankruptcy or no bankruptcy, that clause made it impossible for them to perform their duty to pay rent due to government interference with the business creating exceptional circumstances. | Jun 29 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Basically, the court agreed and they do not owe rent from now until the lease expires. | Jun 29 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unless they can successfully operate at a profit at some point without a Coronavirus lockdown interfering with that. | Jun 29 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is going to be funny. Landlords usually aren't legal experts and resort to boilerplate contracts that even they don't understand. | Jun 29 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was getting ready to deal with an AP involving Joy, because she's such an asshole, but she didn't show up. | Jun 29 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was getting ready for her to start complaining about her pipes blowing up twice. | Jun 29 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had a counter argument prepared that went, "I informed her that the back door was hanging open numerous times, we lived in the basement and didn't even use the back door to get to the laundry area. She has it in her deranged mind, that due to her extreme dislike of me, that we had something to do with her idiot tenants upstairs leaving the door open at subzero temperatures and blowing up her pipes. I demand proof | Jun 29 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | that we were responsible for this. I deny any responsibility for her tenants' actions and her incompetence. " | Jun 29 22:20 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: there is a basic of contract law "The terms of the agreement are impossible to fulfill or too vague to understand" this automatically voids contract. Force Majeure in contract is to prevent this from triggering. Force Majeure in contract does not allow you to take money without providing either or the contract comes under Fraud law. | Jun 29 22:21 |
| oiaohm | and illegal contracts due to Fraud are also void contracts. | Jun 29 22:21 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: I don't really see any way to have a Force Majeure clause rental agreement contract that does not result in both parties not getting what they want and be legal. The basics that you cannot receive money for service/item not provided is kind of nail in coffin here. | Jun 29 22:25 |
| oiaohm | Maybe in future land lords with skip putting Force Majeure clauses in and let the contract void so they can kick person out. | Jun 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That would not work. | Jun 29 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The governor has invoked the Illinois Emergency Management Act and issued an emergency order that there are to be no evictions until the state is fully reopened. | Jun 29 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you wait, file Chapter 11, say your business is not viable if you have to pay back rent for the months you couldn't operate, and then the bankruptcy court probably agrees and voids the back rent. | Jun 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Isn't the law great? | Jun 29 22:28 |
| oiaohm | Technically kicking a person out due to void contract is not a eviction is removing a general trespasser. | Jun 29 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's a combination of emergency declarations and bankruptcy code and contract law here that give that tenant relief in some form in any event and screw the landlord. | Jun 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, you're wrong there too. | Jun 29 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Under Illinois law, you have to evict a squatter too, and they can stay there until the court orders them out and the Sheriff enforces the ruling, and Sheriff Dart is not enforcing any evictions. | Jun 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "The court has made their decision. Now let them enforce it." | Jun 29 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have no enforcement arm on evictions right now, so you can get the ruling, but you can't force them out until the Sheriff goes back to enforcing evictions that were exempted from the order. | Jun 29 22:31 |
| oiaohm | I know under Australian law the voided contract route the person is not a squatter or a tenant. So you are looking for the government written Force Majeure in the rental agreement. | Jun 29 22:31 |
| oiaohm | To prevent that. | Jun 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Sheriff isn't being nice to people. He doesn't want his deputies getting COVID-19 from enforcing evictions on people. | Jun 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's a halt on it on top of the governor's order. | Jun 29 22:32 |
| oiaohm | with Australia with voided contract private security can be used. | Jun 29 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would recommend staying put and not paying rent until it's obvious that the moratorium is about to end, and then filing bankruptcy. | Jun 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your landlord can't get an eviction during bankruptcy and if they have one, they can't enforce it while the bankruptcy is going through unless they get relief from the Trustee. | Jun 29 22:33 |
| oiaohm | It would be worth checking the finer points in the Illinois law just to make sure that loop hole does not exist on you if you don't have a standard Force Majeure clause. | Jun 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's better to block them from going to court in the first place until the bankruptcy is over. | Jun 29 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcy filing voids out court proceedings that are currently underway. | Jun 29 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have to drop the lawsuit and sue you again later if the debt ends up surviving the bankruptcy somehow. | Jun 29 22:34 |
| oiaohm | I did not think Bankruptcy voided criminal actions like charges for being trespasser. | Jun 29 22:36 |
| oiaohm | As I said loop hole on the Australian side. If you are using Australian government created bond system you have a Force Majeure clause that prevents that. | Jun 29 22:37 |
| schestowitz | +34,771 cases in US now. It'll be over 40k again. | Jun 29 22:37 |
| oiaohm | Yes you see private rental here attempt to skip out on using the bond system. | Jun 29 22:38 |
| oiaohm | To make it simpler to remove people. | Jun 29 22:38 |
| oiaohm | Of course most renters here are not stupid enough to fall for it. | Jun 29 22:38 |
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| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: something else you you have the criminal charge there for company existing while known insolvent. | Jun 29 22:43 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: or not. | Jun 29 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trespassing and squatting are legally different in Illinois. | Jun 29 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Squatting actually isn't a crime. It's considered the owner's obligation to notice people on their property in a timely manner. If they've taken up residence, it becomes a civil matter, and sometimes they can even take you to court and take your deed. | Jun 29 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's called Adverse Possession. | Jun 29 22:46 |
| oiaohm | Here in Australia you would not be able to legally wait until grace is up on no evictions if company. First step voluntary administration does legally have to be taken here once trading insolvent. | Jun 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they've been living there, it's their legal address, and they have been paying the property taxes on it, you could end up losing it to them. | Jun 29 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Adverse Possession doesn't exist in all states. | Jun 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It does in Illinois and Indiana. | Jun 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's rare, but it happens. | Jun 29 22:49 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: Australian laws Tenant, Trespassing and Squatting are 3 different things. | Jun 29 22:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, you really have to wonder how many Adverse Possessions are going to happen. | Jun 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois drove people out with high taxes and put thousands of homes on the market that were not selling, before this. | Jun 29 22:50 |
| oiaohm | Squatting under Australia law done right can legally get you ownership of the property. | Jun 29 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure some of those houses have squatters now. The utilities don't check your deed before they hook you up. | Jun 29 22:51 |
| oiaohm | Even if the party is paying their taxes. | Jun 29 22:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if you squat, don't pay their taxes. | Jun 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Jun 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Squat while paying their taxes is a gamble here, but if you get away with it, you could end up owning their house for whatever the taxes cost you for those years. | Jun 29 22:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, if you do get caught, you weren't out much, because the Democrat rent starts out at $1,100 for a studio each month. | Jun 29 22:54 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: https://legalbeagle.com/6779562-claim-squatters-rights-australia.html What form of Adverse Possession does Illinois have. The Australia one could apply in current case been renting for like 12+ and the contract you rented under has turned out to be void. | Jun 29 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-legalbeagle.com | How to Claim Squatter's Rights in Australia | Legal Beagle | Jun 29 22:55 | |
| oiaohm | and the result is you would then own where you are. | Jun 29 22:55 |
| oiaohm | If you are renting a properity here you want to avoid the possibility of voided contract at all costs. | Jun 29 22:56 |
| superkuh | "Do you have a flag?" | Jun 29 22:56 |
| superkuh | "Well, then." | Jun 29 22:56 |
| superkuh | It's tradition. | Jun 29 22:56 |
| oiaohm | as the person owning the properity of course. | Jun 29 22:56 |
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| schestowitz | +37,323 cases in US | Jun 29 23:13 |
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