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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 29/8/2019: Thunderbird 68.0 and HPLIP 3.19.8 http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/hplip-3-19-8/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/44a7d08d-2e2d-45be-88e6-c8910fad1ee5]Aug 29 07:01
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schestowitz"Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzCan you give more details of what happened? And was it cancelled after the incident?Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzHi. Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzI did crash the LF party," this person told us afterwards (Embedded Linux, San Diego, an LF event). "Oddly, my reservation for the hotel was cancelled."Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzI found out the morning of. Was able to book through a third party - and a better room for Wed night at hilton bayfront.Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzYes - I did pass out stickers, did tinkering show and tell, and made some new connects. Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzHad fun. Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzAlso - uplugged a bit - Went to the ocean and coronado island.Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzAltogether productive.Aug 29 07:34
schestowitz- saw jono at Starbucks on Thurs MorningAug 29 07:34
schestowitz- tweeted about it... Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzFree of charge :) Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzhahahahahahahahaAug 29 07:34
schestowitz"Aug 29 07:34
schestowitzOur LF writings are workingAug 29 07:34
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MinceR:)Aug 29 07:39
schestowitzI am writing an article sbout it notAug 29 07:39
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/08/13/open-source-summit-openwashing/comment-page-1/#comment-325269Aug 29 07:39
schestowitz"Aug 29 07:39
schestowitzI’m ready to take a stand. We will be there as guests of the hotel and holding community events (The Sweet Ladies of Free Software lunch in the same restaurant as the “Women in Open Source” lunch) and passing around our sweet sweet swag – during their venue – not as part of the LF event but… as community leaders … with an eye toward community – in your corner.Aug 29 07:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation’s Open Source Summit is a Proprietary Software Marketing Venue | TechrightsAug 29 07:39
schestowitzThis LF (who don’t even use GNU Linux internally) has gone too far. We must show up. We’ll be at Embedded in California next week, with our toys – for people in our community to share, code and not as part of this LF event but holding our own event. While LF holds a presentation about “get out there and have an event” – we’ll be holding one. Because in our community, we don’t just speak to listen to ourselves talk… we act.Aug 29 07:39
schestowitzAlso, I cannot say how disgusted I am about the winner of this year’s Free Software Foundation award – giving 2 presentations during open source summit. That makes me SICK. Not a few months ago Deb won this award and is already speaking for the Linux Foundation events. Give… back.. the FSF award!Aug 29 07:39
schestowitz"Aug 29 07:39
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schestowitz>     We have more urgent and less vulnerable groups to 'go after' thanAug 29 08:50
schestowitz>     the FSF. Infighting would distract both sides.Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz> im an issues person, not a party person.Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz> talking about issues isnt infighting. and trying to poke the fsf intoAug 29 08:50
schestowitz> talking isnt infighting either.Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz>      5. in dealing with both critics and allies, it is always moreAug 29 08:50
schestowitz>         useful to look past the superficial-- towards motivations, trueAug 29 08:50
schestowitz>         nature and real effects. society encourages the shallowAug 29 08:50
schestowitz>         evaluation of goods and services, as well as of people. vitalAug 29 08:50
schestowitz>         communities must do better in this regard than general society,Aug 29 08:50
schestowitz>         if they wish to thrive. this is not intended to eliminateAug 29 08:50
schestowitz>         speculation, only to temper superficiality.Aug 29 08:51
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schestowitz>      8. when communities with valuable contributions become divided overAug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         political differences, umbrella communities and organisationsAug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         are a positive way to invite long-term resolution. haste andAug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         superficial resolution are less positive, though "first step"Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         efforts will hopefully count for something.Aug 29 08:51
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schestowitz> *Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> *Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz>      9. *each community should be allowed to explore its own options toAug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         further the long-term benefits of its efforts towards softwareAug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         freedom-- subject to informal approval and/or intellectuallyAug 29 08:51
schestowitz>         honest (fair) critique from from other communities.*Aug 29 08:51
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schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> thats not infighting-- the silence of the fsf is an important issue.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> one of the most important ones.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> i want to leave them no choice but to speak up.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> things get worse every year, and the fsf refuses to admit the problems.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> that has to change. making nice while the world falls apart is useless.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> in 15 years, at this rate, free software wont be recognisable.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> the fsf cannot be allowed to fall back on tired rhetoric and do nothingAug 29 08:51
schestowitz> about the new problems for more than half a decade.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> actually, nobody can make them DO anything.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> but theyre not going to throw the fight and have everybody go along with it.Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:51
schestowitz> im not going to just go along with it.Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> if you had a best friend who suddenly changed gears and refused toAug 29 08:52
schestowitz> explain, maybe youd press him about it and maybe youd leave him alone.Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> but if things got steadily worse for 5 years, i hope youd sayAug 29 08:52
schestowitz> something-- until he stopped ignoring it and gave you a straight answer.Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> still waiting. and ive spent a year trying to get one. (actually more--Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> officially a year, unofficially? more like a decade.)Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> Aug 29 08:52
schestowitz> im not amused by it.Aug 29 08:52
schestowitzThe attitude of talking down the FSF would only make us weaker; better to not mention them much.Aug 29 08:52
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft Wants Linux to Use exFAT for the Same Reasons it Wants Everybody to Use OOXML http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/the-exfat-googlebomb/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/1001774b-d61a-4dbf-8933-607dddc7e789]Aug 29 10:32
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schestowitzkaniini viera lost its connectionAug 29 17:09
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kaniinischestowitz: okAug 29 17:16
schestowitzcheers mateAug 29 17:16
schestowitzI'm checking notifications in the meantime, I do that in large batches when I have the excuse to :-)Aug 29 17:16
kaniinii restarted vieraAug 29 17:17
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schestowitzThe pleroma interface is always getting more awesomeAug 29 17:17
schestowitzall sort of little new featuresAug 29 17:17
schestowitzso tuxmachines and I abandoned the mastodpn-like UIAug 29 17:17
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DaemonFC[m]Walmart has $299 laptop special.Aug 29 17:37
DaemonFC[m]Decent hardware for the price point.Aug 29 17:38
schestowitzWalmart has ammo tooAug 29 17:38
DaemonFC[m]Windows 10 "S", which means it doesn't actually run programs until you spend another $100 on it. I wonder if it runs Linux. Anyone?Aug 29 17:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, my probation officer made me give her my FOID card.Aug 29 17:38
DaemonFC[m]She told me you can't buy a gun without one.Aug 29 17:38
DaemonFC[m]I told her "Probably explains Chicago.".Aug 29 17:39
DaemonFC[m]Fuck the FOID card. I'm court ordered not to have a gun for the next year anyway. I'm not going to lie about not having my FOID and then have probation find out I have a FOID.Aug 29 17:39
DaemonFC[m]If you have a FOID and try to buy a gun in Illinois, it pings the state police, which very obviously is going to send an email to the probation department.Aug 29 17:40
MinceRWindows 10 AssAug 29 17:40
DaemonFC[m]And then I'll be in jail for the next 11 months.Aug 29 17:40
MinceRmaybe you can exploit it and chainload grub from it?Aug 29 17:40
MinceRthat way it could almost reach the usefulness of ms-dosAug 29 17:40
DaemonFC[m]Possibly. Aug 29 17:41
DaemonFC[m]They do this to catch people unaware. Like, it looks like the Windows laptop is the same price range as a Chromebook.Aug 29 17:41
DaemonFC[m]The Chromebooks are getting Linux application support, so at least they actually do something useful now.Aug 29 17:41
DaemonFC[m]I think....Aug 29 17:41
DaemonFC[m]The idea of an entire laptop that was just a web browser was not enough for a power user.Aug 29 17:42
MinceRwhat's FOID?Aug 29 17:44
DaemonFC[m]Firearm Owner ID Card.Aug 29 18:10
DaemonFC[m]It's this idiotic law Illinois has that doesn't work.Aug 29 18:10
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU Emacs 26.3 Released, How to Install it in Ubuntu 18.04 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127517 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ac661a0c-f40a-444a-bdef-53c3e3373825]Aug 29 19:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical/Ubuntu: Ubuntu Podcast, Ubuntu 19.10 Daily Builds with Gnome 3.34 Beta, Bashing Deb/APT/Aptitude to Promote Snaps/Snapd, Ubuntu on Ibase http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127521 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aa3950ef-b898-4b91-907c-af278edeafc5]Aug 29 20:05
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: cheers, makes sense nowAug 29 20:09
schestowitzso weird you got a conviction or whatever, expected better from you (not to lose temper)Aug 29 20:09
schestowitzcubexyz: got some photos from your birthplace this week, will post some soonAug 29 20:10
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's not a conviction.Aug 29 20:56
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DaemonFC[m]It's supervision.Aug 29 20:56
DaemonFC[m]It's basically the minimum form of probation and it ends in December.Aug 29 20:57
DaemonFC[m]If I can make it through August 8th without violating my supervision terms, then it closes out as a dismissed Disorderly Conduct case. Not a conviction.Aug 29 20:57
DaemonFC[m]I decided to plead it out since the original charges were two aggravated assault with knife charges and the only reason my ex was shutting up was because he knew if I went to jail, nobody would make my car payment. He's on the car loan.Aug 29 20:58
DaemonFC[m]I paid it until after the plea deal and then stopped paying it.Aug 29 20:58
DaemonFC[m]Now he's over there going apeshit.Aug 29 20:58
DaemonFC[m]Too late to start cooperating with the state. Aug 29 20:58
DaemonFC[m]They're going to sue him. I'm on Social Security so there's nothing to take from me.Aug 29 20:59
DaemonFC[m]It's going to be months for them to get the car back, clean it up, auction it, determine a deficiency balance, give us 30 days to make arrangements to pay....Aug 29 21:00
DaemonFC[m]I mean, they have to give you a chance to redeem the loan 15 days before it goes to an auction.Aug 29 21:00
DaemonFC[m]And the 30 days to pay....that's 45 days right there.Aug 29 21:00
DaemonFC[m]So even if they got it back today, there's nothing they could begin to do for a month and a half.Aug 29 21:01
DaemonFC[m]And by the time they give up and realize nobody is going to pay the deficiency balance, they have to wait to sue us because we're not the only people in America whose car got repossessed.Aug 29 21:01
DaemonFC[m]I'd say we probably have at least 4-5 months before this could turn into a lawsuit.Aug 29 21:02
DaemonFC[m]And by the time it does, John is in quite a lot of troubleAug 29 21:02
DaemonFC[m]As long as nothing interferes with me finishing supervised probation, I don't give a shit.Aug 29 21:06
DaemonFC[m]It's easier to throw him to the wolves, especially after what he did to me. Aug 29 21:07
DaemonFC[m]A finance company isn't as bad as the government, but it's going to cost him a lot of money and they will get it.Aug 29 21:07
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19080649Aug 29 21:44
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schestowitzCops raid #microsoft , find #criminalsAug 29 22:25
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: What did you think of Microsoft saying it will "donate" exFAT patents to get a kernel module into Linux?Aug 29 22:31
MinceR:>Aug 29 22:31
DaemonFC[m]They published the specification of exFAT and announced that they would be giving a patent license to all OIN members with the goal of getting a kernel module merged.Aug 29 22:35
DaemonFC[m]They said it won't be them that writes the kernel module though.Aug 29 22:35
DaemonFC[m]Well, there's already at least one GPL licensed kernel module out there. That one that initially leaked out of Samsung. It just hasn't been merged because Microsoft has sued people over file system patents so many times.Aug 29 22:36
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DaemonFC[m]Microsoft was quick to point out that they are not "currently engaged in any ongoing litigation related to exFAT patents".Aug 29 22:37
DaemonFC[m]Of course they aren't.Aug 29 22:38
DaemonFC[m]Litigation is what happens when threats don't work.Aug 29 22:38
schestowitzI'll 'borrow' your commentsAug 29 22:39
schestowitzlots of puff pieces today  https://www.techradar.com/au/news/microsoft-is-bringing-its-exfat-patents-to-linux-and-open-sourceAug 29 22:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft is bringing its exFAT patents to Linux and open source | TechRadarAug 29 22:40
DaemonFC[m]More gifts.Aug 29 22:41
schestowitz https://www.zdnet.com/article/exfat-is-on-its-way-to-the-linux-kernel/#ftag=RSSbaffb68Aug 29 22:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ExFAT is on its way to the Linux kernel | ZDNetAug 29 22:41
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Lawsuits work the same way plea bargaining does.Aug 29 22:42
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft doesn't want to sue people over patents that may be found invalid.Aug 29 22:42
DaemonFC[m]It wants money.Aug 29 22:42
schestowitzrightAug 29 22:42
DaemonFC[m]The way to get money isn't to nuke everyone. It's to threaten them if they don't pay up. Usually like part of what the cost of going to court and losing would be.Aug 29 22:43
DaemonFC[m]As long as you never go to court, you don't risk anything. Aug 29 22:43
schestowitzhttps://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190827/10353042862/top-mpaa-lawyer-mastermind-behind-plan-to-attack-internet-arrested-blackmail-sexual-assault-charges.shtmlAug 29 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Top MPAA Lawyer, Mastermind Behind Its Plan To Attack The Internet, Arrested On Blackmail And Sexual Assault Charges | TechdirtAug 29 22:43
DaemonFC[m]I was about to post that too.Aug 29 22:44
schestowitzyou canAug 29 22:44
schestowitzit's ontopicAug 29 22:44
schestowitzI will quote you laterAug 29 22:44
schestowitzas Ryan FarmerAug 29 22:44
schestowitzI'll do a followup article (again)Aug 29 22:44
MinceR29 233552 <+DaemonFC[m]> They said it won't be them that writes the kernel module though.Aug 29 22:45
MinceRgood, at least it can be good thenAug 29 22:45
DaemonFC[m]Fitting that a guy who spent 20 years bribing public officials (state attorneys general) to threaten Google to self-censor their search results, and shaking people down (RIAA lawsuits) and got away with it because he was filthy rich gets busted for blackmailing a young nurse to continue having sex with him.Aug 29 22:45
DaemonFC[m]And it started out so cheap too..... Like, the guy has millions and he only paid her $400?Aug 29 22:45
DaemonFC[m]Maybe if the money was good she never would have wanted out of the arrangement and contacted the cops. But these pigs never think like that.Aug 29 22:46
DaemonFC[m]I think that  if he even paid her a couple grand each time she would have shut up and kept doing it without him sending her nasty text messages. It's a question of how revolting is the guy vs. how good is the money.Aug 29 22:47
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It really is like what James Carville said. Drag a $100 through a trailer park and you never know what you'll find.Aug 29 22:49
DaemonFC[m]Same concept. Aug 29 22:49
DaemonFC[m]Everything's for sale, including sex, whether the government says so or not.Aug 29 22:50
DaemonFC[m]Because laws only control people to the extent that people fear the law. And this guy spent so many years engaging in what were probably felonies. I say he got comfortable with it and saw this as just one more thing on the list of shit he'd get away with.Aug 29 22:50
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DaemonFC[m]Hell, with what's gone on over my life, a disorderly conduct is like dying on the toilet embarrassing. Aug 29 22:54
DaemonFC[m]I figure everyone's life is like that though.Aug 29 22:56
DaemonFC[m]If the state had been watching them their whole life, everyone would have a rap sheet a mile long, and most of it would be dumb shit.Aug 29 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Why does anyone talk to the police?Aug 29 22:58
DaemonFC[m]If I had let them turn the camera on and talk to me long enough, I would have gotten to the point where the prosecutor didn't really need to offer me much of anything. Aug 29 22:59
DaemonFC[m]86% of all arrests lead to the suspect pleading guilty to something at some point.Aug 29 22:59
DaemonFC[m]Why rush it? The police station and the arraignment court are the wrong place.Aug 29 22:59
schestowitzdid you see the honey/meth story?Aug 29 23:00
schestowitzthe dog theatre at airport is doing serious damageAug 29 23:00
DaemonFC[m]If you say nothing, your lawyer can probably say "Hey, this really looks more like that and if you take my client to court on this thing you think you have him on, the jury is going to see it my way.".Aug 29 23:00
schestowitzhttps://reason.com/2019/08/27/the-meth-was-actually-honey/ https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190826/16475942856/man-spends-three-months-jail-because-drug-dog-field-test-said-his-honey-was-methamphetamines.shtmlAug 29 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A Man Spent 82 Days in Jail on Meth Charges. The Meth Was Actually Honey. – Reason.comAug 29 23:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Man Spends Three Months In Jail Because A Drug Dog And A Field Test Said His Honey Was Methamphetamines | TechdirtAug 29 23:01
DaemonFC[m]Yes, they had him in jail for 86 days waiting on them to fucking test the shit.Aug 29 23:01
DaemonFC[m]And find out it was honey.Aug 29 23:01
DaemonFC[m]86 days is more than most people do on a Class B Misdemeanor and he wasn't even charged with anything in the end.Aug 29 23:01
DaemonFC[m]That's just how long he waited in jail for them to go "Oops, honey.".Aug 29 23:01
DaemonFC[m]Most first time offenders don't even go to jail on misdemeanors.Aug 29 23:02
DaemonFC[m]We got mine down to a Class C Misdemeanor, which is the least serious crime on the books.Aug 29 23:02
DaemonFC[m]Disorderly Conduct is shouting at someone while drunk in a bar type shit.Aug 29 23:02
schestowitzmrs.-demeanor Aug 29 23:03
schestowitz:-)Aug 29 23:03
schestowitzanyone, gnAug 29 23:03
schestowitzI will write some stuff when I get up, exFAT esp.Aug 29 23:03
schestowitzand some github alsoAug 29 23:03
schestowitzLF still outsources everything to MicrosoftAug 29 23:03
psydroidoh, someone on #talos-workstation called you an asshat the other day for railing against .NET and Mono going as far back as last decadeAug 29 23:11
psydroidif that happens, you know you have been doing the right thingAug 29 23:11
psydroidalso something I just wrote on a Dutch computer website, if device creators gave the customer a choice of filesystem to use for storage, they could decide themselves if they wanted to use exFAT or notAug 29 23:16
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