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| schestowitz | English is almost universal | Aug 29 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | so I focus on that | Aug 29 00:00 |
| scientes | not in South America | Aug 29 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: So you focus on learning your native language? :) | Aug 29 00:00 |
| schestowitz | We use 4 in the house | Aug 29 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Rianne speaks 5 | Aug 29 00:01 |
| XRevan86 | Or is your native language, comrade Shestovich? | Aug 29 00:01 |
| scientes | XRevan86, I got seriously bored of English | Aug 29 00:02 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_exonyms_for_places_in_the_Czech_Republic | Aug 29 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | List of German exonyms for places in the Czech Republic - Wikipedia | Aug 29 00:02 | |
| scientes | I've started reading books in Spanish (translations from languages other than English) just to ease the bordom | Aug 29 00:02 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Are you hinting on that you could be comrade Zhestovich? | Aug 29 00:04 |
| scientes | XRevan86, isn't that a patronomic? | Aug 29 00:04 |
| schestowitz | never saw it with a Z | Aug 29 00:04 |
| scientes | XRevan86, son of a orange peel? | Aug 29 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, -vich/-vna means son/daughter of | Aug 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | witz means joke too | Aug 29 00:05 |
| schestowitz | depends on the language | Aug 29 00:05 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It is also used in surnames, especially in West Slavic regions. | Aug 29 00:05 |
| *scientes is going with son of an orange peel | Aug 29 00:05 | |
| schestowitz | Maybe you refer to https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/48.77542/14.21469 | Aug 29 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.openstreetmap.org | OpenStreetMap | Aug 29 00:06 | |
| XRevan86 | So it is a patronimic, but one converted to a surname, like Johnson | Aug 29 00:06 |
| scientes | > like Johnson | Aug 29 00:06 |
| scientes | touché | Aug 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | aka https://vymaps.com/CZ/Schestau-Jihocesky-Kraj-Czech-Republic-222902097726732/ | Aug 29 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vymaps.com | Schestau, Jihočeský Kraj, Czech Republic, Other | Aug 29 00:07 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Yes, that's what I saw in the list. | Aug 29 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | > Schestau, zu Zippendorf: Žestov | Aug 29 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | Even if that's not the place, the fact that "zh" turned into "sch" is a hint anyway. | Aug 29 00:08 |
| schestowitz | https://geographic.org/geographic_names/name.php?uni=-784656&fid=1739&c=czech_republic | Aug 29 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-geographic.org | Schestau, Czech Republic - Geographical Names, map, geographic coordinates | Aug 29 00:08 | |
| schestowitz | anyway, that's where the name comes from | Aug 29 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | Both shest and zhest are valid Slavic words | Aug 29 00:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Oh, then it is Zhestovich :) | Aug 29 00:08 |
| scientes | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan | Aug 29 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ramadan - Wikipedia | Aug 29 00:08 | |
| scientes | the dates weren't even updated | Aug 29 00:08 |
| scientes | things have changed | Aug 29 00:09 |
| scientes | no-one cares anymore | Aug 29 00:09 |
| schestowitz | But they all lived in Wendelsheim, Rheinland-Pfalz | Aug 29 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | If one removes the German phonetic changes from it. | Aug 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | Then there's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe) | Aug 29 00:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Galicia (Eastern Europe) - Wikipedia | Aug 29 00:11 | |
| XRevan86 | Yes, the west-most region of Ukraine | Aug 29 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | has a lot of myths about it as being the least Russian or something | Aug 29 00:12 |
| schestowitz | i think my grandma's parents were there at one point | Aug 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz | but she was born in France | Aug 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz | or Switzerland | Aug 29 00:14 |
| *scientes is still going with son of an orange peel | Aug 29 00:14 | |
| schestowitz | I still cannot find enough info on some families | Aug 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | like the Gateses earlier today | Aug 29 00:15 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Shkurkovich? | Aug 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | e.g. how much wealth was in the Maxwell when Mary had kids | Aug 29 00:15 |
| scientes | zestovich | Aug 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | to debunk the Gates myth | Aug 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | RMS was apparently born in rather bad conditions | Aug 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | but he went to a good college, so could not be bad | Aug 29 00:15 |
| schestowitz | Compare to Steve Jobs | Aug 29 00:16 |
| schestowitz | BTW, I think "Stallman" was 'Lipmann" or somthing | Aug 29 00:16 |
| schestowitz | but it's hard to find now | Aug 29 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Strange how both apply with practically the same accuracy | Aug 29 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Maybe the book about FAIF | Aug 29 00:16 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/biographies.html#serious does not say anything about his bad relationship with parents | Aug 29 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Biography | Aug 29 00:16 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Well, not really, okay. | Aug 29 00:17 |
| scientes | https://www.sistani.org/english/qa/01336/ | Aug 29 00:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sistani.org | Tattoos - Question & Answer - The Official Website of the Office of His Eminence Al-Sayyid Ali Al-Husseini Al-Sistani | Aug 29 00:17 | |
| scientes | interesting | Aug 29 00:17 |
| scientes | ahhh fuck AJAX fail | Aug 29 00:18 |
| scientes | https://www.sistani.org/english/qa/25552/ | Aug 29 00:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sistani.org | Tattoos - Question & Answer - The Official Website of the Office of His Eminence Al-Sayyid Ali Al-Husseini Al-Sistani | Aug 29 00:18 | |
| schestowitz | Ajax is still called that? | Aug 29 00:18 |
| schestowitz | I have barely seen this term in a decade | Aug 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | it was peaking around 2004 | Aug 29 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Huh, it's rather strange that Wikipedia doesn't list his parents. | Aug 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | Now it's back to being a detergent and football club | Aug 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: they were of no individual significance | Aug 29 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Usually it provides names regardless. | Aug 29 00:20 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Our partners at Microsoft has received intelligence that as part current Extinction Rebellion events there may be a digital attack of some governmental services this weekend. | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | Therefore we are ensuring our support partners are aware and ready should any of our systems be targeted. | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | "Our partners at Microsoft..." | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | So they accuse climate activists | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | of something they never even did | Aug 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | and might not do, either | Aug 29 00:21 |
| scientes | https://www.sistani.org/english/qa/15409/ | Aug 29 00:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sistani.org | Adulthood - Puberty (Buloogh) - Question & Answer - The Official Website of the Office of His Eminence Al-Sayyid Ali Al-Husseini Al-Sistani | Aug 29 00:23 | |
| scientes | > ite of the Office of His Eminence Al-Sayyid Ali Al-Husseini Al-Sistani | Aug 29 00:23 |
| scientes | > | Aug 29 00:23 |
| scientes | 2. Second: Ejaculation through sexual intercourse, or seminal discharge while awake or asleep. | Aug 29 00:23 |
| scientes | hahahaha, they are trying to save face regarding masturbation | Aug 29 00:23 |
| scientes | considering how obsessive religious people get, it is funny | Aug 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | they seem to eb referring to wet dreams, too | Aug 29 00:25 |
| schestowitz | either way, not every "tadpole" will become a baby | Aug 29 00:25 |
| oarion7 | schestowitz: is Microsoft technically one of if not the largest us military contractor now? did that deal go through, the one that beat out amazon? | Aug 29 00:25 |
| schestowitz | religious fanatics have an issue with that | Aug 29 00:25 |
| schestowitz | oarion7: I think there's still a one-month period of appeal | Aug 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | but seeing how close they are on TikTok, | Aug 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | and ... | Aug 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | Trump being in office till year's end | Aug 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | their alliance of fascists seems secured | Aug 29 00:26 |
| oarion7 | hmm | Aug 29 00:27 |
| oarion7 | i was talking to this guy at work early this morning who was evangelizing for apple, assumed i was a windows user and well basically telling me i was on the wrong path in life | Aug 29 00:28 |
| oarion7 | after i told him i use linux he started bowing to me and so forth, it was funny | Aug 29 00:28 |
| oarion7 | at the end he told me bill gates wanted to put microchips in everyone, and i laughed it off but said something to agree with his general sentiments, then he looked at me weird and told me he was just kidding and walked away | Aug 29 00:30 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: Did you give him a nickel so that he could buy a proper computer? | Aug 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | oarion7: it's not entirely untrue, but framed incorrectly | Aug 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | the ambition to have digital passports of some kind is real | Aug 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | with the war on cash too | Aug 29 00:31 |
| XRevan86 | oarion7: ( https://assets.amuniversal.com/6b08abb09fbb012f2fe600163e41dd5b ) | Aug 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | but there's no strong evidence of microchipping | Aug 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft may have some patents | Aug 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | the cranks come in when they speak of chipping and 5G and stuff | Aug 29 00:32 |
| schestowitz | and the evidence to connect that is weak | Aug 29 00:32 |
| schestowitz | so they end up looking like l00ns and k00ks | Aug 29 00:32 |
| oarion7 | yeah | Aug 29 00:34 |
| oarion7 | XRevan86: haha nice | Aug 29 00:34 |
| schestowitz | in techrights, I believe/hope, we've always been very factual on these issues | Aug 29 00:35 |
| schestowitz | but some people who link to our articles are k00ks | Aug 29 00:35 |
| schestowitz | though we can and do ignore them | Aug 29 00:35 |
| schestowitz | there are overlapping groups | Aug 29 00:36 |
| schestowitz | anti-vaxxers | Aug 29 00:36 |
| schestowitz | qanons | Aug 29 00:36 |
| schestowitz | they sometimes overlap BTW | Aug 29 00:36 |
| schestowitz | mostly right-leaning, MAGA cultists at times | Aug 29 00:36 |
| schestowitz | there's a correlation between the ones who claim all Trump critics must be "deep state" even though Trump represents the ruling elites, whom the secret agencies protest the most\ | Aug 29 00:37 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Selected_Mail/2020/Debian-private/ | Aug 29 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Debian private | Aug 29 00:37 | |
| schestowitz | I got 8000 more emails now | Aug 29 00:37 |
| schestowitz | never published before | Aug 29 00:37 |
| schestowitz | I think we'll be focusing on that over the next few weeks | Aug 29 00:37 |
| schestowitz | I got some big article on issues like Linus and the Coc | Aug 29 00:38 |
| oarion7 | Trump's policies with regard to war and the national security state have generally been supported by democrats and lauded by mainstream media, on these issues he's a normal president in the worst possible sense of that expression, i.e. continuing and accelerating the policies of prior administrations. what's unique is that trump personally claims to oppose his own policies, and pays lip service | Aug 29 00:41 |
| oarion7 | to things like pulling back wars and diplomacy with foreign adversaries, which are the few things he says that make a lot of sense (broken clock) but they get spun as being problematic, and the result is that state/corporate media has successfully weaponized his unfashionability to manufacture consent for his polocies (because he claims to oppose them, and people forget their his | Aug 29 00:41 |
| oarion7 | administration's policies) | Aug 29 00:41 |
| oarion7 | so MAGA and Democrats believe in the same myth, i.e. that trump and the 'deep state' aren't working well together or are at odds | Aug 29 00:42 |
| oarion7 | most trump voters oppose his foreign policy and legitimate their support of him on the myth that he's trying to do the opposite. and state/corporate media algorythmically suppresses this angle of analysis | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> In the USA at least, you can have a tax-deductible donation to a | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> software project. | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> In Canada, software projects are not tax deductible. I would love to | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> ask FACIL how this works out on their side of things. OpenBSD suffers | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> from this-- they still have to pay their electric bills (they made a | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> plea some time ago for exactly this reason-- they were having trouble | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> paying the electric bill. Everybody chipped in to help.) | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> There is an OpenBSD foundation-- I don't know how that works either. | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> The foundation is mentioned on the same page that mentions "software | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> projects" not being considered a charitable cause in Canadian law. | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> Stuff to learn: 1. how FACIL and OpenBSD Foundation manage in Canada | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> 2. what PyPy intends to do to bootstrap compilation if CPython goes | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >> offline. (self host?) | Aug 29 00:43 |
| schestowitz | >>> Yep. It's always important to "follow the money". | Aug 29 00:43 |
| oarion7 | https://thegrayzone.com/2020/08/28/us-sanctions-russian-research-institute-covid-19-vaccine/ | Aug 29 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thegrayzone.com | U.S. sanctions Russian research institute that developed Covid-19 vaccine | The Grayzone | Aug 29 00:51 | |
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| schestowitz | I'm not even sure people would bother with vaccination | Aug 29 00:56 |
| schestowitz | as it might not be effective enough | Aug 29 00:56 |
| schestowitz | because not everyone will take it | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | it mutates | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | and we don't even know how effective it is | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | some people get reinfected | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | after recovery | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | so surely the body's resistance to it isn't what they lead us to think it is | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | even a Pinoy politicians got it repeatedly | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | so high-profile people too | Aug 29 00:57 |
| schestowitz | maybe our Pry Minister can get it again | Aug 29 00:58 |
| schestowitz | and die the second time around | Aug 29 00:58 |
| schestowitz | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/08/26/trump-pushes-new-tax-cuts-wealthy-analysis-shows-us-billionaires-800-billion-richer | Aug 29 00:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | As Trump Pushes New Tax Cuts for Wealthy, Analysis Shows US Billionaires $800 Billion Richer Since Pandemic Hit | Common Dreams News | Aug 29 00:58 | |
| schestowitz | many jobs were eliminatred | Aug 29 00:59 |
| schestowitz | "Efficiency" | Aug 29 00:59 |
| schestowitz | in the name of crisis | Aug 29 00:59 |
| schestowitz | and those issues are not going away | Aug 29 00:59 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I think I asked already, but I don't remember the answer: why do you have Han characters meaning "Roy" in your profile? | Aug 29 01:15 |
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| schestowitz | it's just very old | Aug 29 01:34 |
| schestowitz | I might as well remove it | Aug 29 01:34 |
| schestowitz | Miguel de Icaza has just blogged | Aug 29 01:35 |
| schestowitz | which is rare https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2020/Aug-28.html | Aug 29 01:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tirania.org | - Miguel de Icaza | Aug 29 01:35 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Some old passion about East Asia? | Aug 29 01:40 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141491 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f693d86e-8c33-4557-8dbb-76033c529845] | Aug 29 01:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Any security that iOS brings with it comes at too high a price. | Aug 29 01:54 |
| MinceR | well, if there's any security in hypeOS, good for crApple | Aug 29 01:54 |
| MinceR | they've got root in the device, the alleged owner doesn't | Aug 29 01:55 |
| MinceR | so it serves them, not the alleged owner | Aug 29 01:55 |
| MinceR | they're the ones protected by any security, not the alleged owner | Aug 29 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, locking down the device so that idiots can't be tricked is hardly a solution that anyone should want to live with. | Aug 29 01:56 |
| XRevan86 | security is a synonym for private guards | Aug 29 01:56 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 29 01:56 |
| MinceR | "Hey! That is my gold master that I don't have! Give it back! SECURITY!" | Aug 29 01:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Still, the App Store review process is not flawless. Some developers have worked around these restrictions by: (1) distributing hidden payloads, (2) temporarily disabling features while their app was being tested on Apple’s campus, (3) using time triggers, or (4) remotely controlling features to evade reviewers. | Aug 29 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As a case in point, we need look no further than Epic Games. They deceptively submitted a “hot fix,” which is a practice used to fix a critical problem such as a crash. Under the covers, they added a new purchasing system that could be remotely activated at the time of their choosing. It will come as no surprise that they activated it after they cleared the App Store’s review process." | Aug 29 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 29 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, you just sneak it through and Apple's reviewers will probably miss it, then you remotely activate it later. | Aug 29 01:59 |
| MinceR | did you expect crApple to be competent? :> | Aug 29 01:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Unlike a personal computer, the applications you run on your smartphone are isolated from the operating system and even from each other to prevent interference. Since apps run under a “sandbox” that limits what they can do, you do not need to reinstall your iPhone from scratch every few months because things no longer work." | Aug 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've never "had" to reinstall Linux because things just "didn't work" anymore. | Aug 29 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Miguel is snubbing the "PC" and really means "Windows". | Aug 29 02:00 |
| MinceR | well, duh | Aug 29 02:01 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Teaser: The Cancellation of Linus Torvalds, #Linux Founder and #Git 's Father http://techrights.org/2020/08/28/linus-torvalds-coc/ | Aug 29 02:01 |
| MinceR | if i run applications on a smartphone, reinstalling a hypePhone would have no effect on them | Aug 29 02:02 |
| MinceR | because hypePhones are not smartphones | Aug 29 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In theory, a bad actor could include an exploit for an unknown security hole in their application, slip it past Apple, and then, once it is used in the wild, wake up the dormant code that hijacks your system." | Aug 29 02:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Teaser: The Cancellation of Linus Torvalds, Linux Founder and Git’s Father | Techrights | Aug 29 02:02 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I suppose, in theory, Jon Voight could slip malware onto an iPhone. | Aug 29 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But why would he? He's in his 80s and has never made an app before. | Aug 29 02:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Get it? Bad actor. :) | Aug 29 02:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 7 Privacy-Preserving Addons for Firefox You Should Have http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141492 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f5d7de60-ed24-4fee-874c-b06fc509d13f] | Aug 29 02:05 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In the battle over the security and privacy of my phone, I am happy to pay a premium knowing that my information is safe and sound, and that it is not going to be sold to the highest bidder." | Aug 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That doesn't necessarily matter, obviously. | Aug 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Capital One leaked the SSNs and other info of the people who logged in with an iPhone. | Aug 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had a breach made possible by bugs in Microsoft Azure. | Aug 29 02:08 |
| MinceR | others broke into hypeCloud and leaked people's photos from it | Aug 29 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So since it's almost impossible to get a new Social Security number, good luck with that. | Aug 29 02:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Social Security numbers like mine are easier to just guess than ones issued more recently. | Aug 29 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The first 5 numbers used to be assigned by state of birth and for various years. | Aug 29 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, I could probably eventually guess my ex's just from having his bankruptcy papers just because he was born in 1985. | Aug 29 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It puts the last 4 of your Social Security number on the public part of the forms. | Aug 29 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They send your full Social Security number to all the creditors who get discharged in the bankruptcy too. | Aug 29 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government won't fix it because big corporations have "identity insurance" products now. | Aug 29 02:12 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PmHRSeA2c8 | Aug 29 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DebConf 14: QA with Linus Torvalds - YouTube | Aug 29 02:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The first field (3 digits) only has 14 possible numbers. | Aug 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The second field (2 digits) has 99 possible numbers | Aug 29 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And the last 4 are on his bankruptcy filing. | Aug 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since I know the last 4 digits, how many possibilities are left? 1,386. Right? | Aug 29 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The lack of randomness was a major security problem, but it was okay when you couldn't just sit there applying for a credit card guessing one at a time if you had to. | Aug 29 02:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then if that's not bad enough, you have to use them to apply for just about anything, including cable TV, an apartment, a bank account, a credit card, a cell phone. | Aug 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A job, of course. | Aug 29 02:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But they don't really need it because they can put something bad on your credit without it, but if you're in your mid 30s, thousands of companies have it and some have probably mishandled it. | Aug 29 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then another problem was Medicare cards. Social Security Number plus one letter was the old system. | Aug 29 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now everyone on Medicare has a randomly generated number, but that's very recent. | Aug 29 02:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's so much Medicare fraud out there that Medicare really wanted to be able to scramble your number if fraudsters got ahold of it, but they said it was to protect you from SSN fraud. | Aug 29 02:23 |
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| kingoffrance | i had to do a doubletake because i read hyperphone and that is totally believable | Aug 29 02:51 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 29 02:51 |
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| schestowitz | hypePhone | Aug 29 02:55 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did you coin it or I? | Aug 29 02:55 |
| schestowitz | I fail to remember | Aug 29 02:55 |
| schestowitz | there was hypePad also | Aug 29 02:55 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Aug 29 02:56 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/HypePad_Watch | Aug 29 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | HypePad Watch - Techrights | Aug 29 03:10 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/gun-charge-for-chicago-man-is-first-federal-case-from-downtown-looting-this-month/ar-BB18tQvA?ocid=hplocalnews | Aug 29 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | Gun charge for Chicago man is first federal case from downtown looting this month | Aug 29 05:00 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The feds are busting some of these shitdicks, so even if "Crook" County's prosecutor drops the charges, they're not walking away from this. They get to spend a little time in the federal prison. | Aug 29 05:01 |
| schestowitz | I see the second am. works well for you folks... | Aug 29 05:04 |
| schestowitz | >> Maybe somebody can go to the debian-switzerland list and publicly ask | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> for a copy of the last balance sheet for debian.ch? | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> The bank account is with Swiss Postfinance | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-switzerland/ | Aug 29 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Debian Mailing Lists -- Index for debian-switzerland | Aug 29 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> They always attach minutes of the AGM to the notice of the following AGM | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> but they always leave out the page with the balances. You can see it is | Aug 29 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unlawful use of a firearm by a felon and felon in possession of firearm were supported by the NRA. | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> mentioned in each set of minutes. | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> After I resigned, they were angry and they changed the constitution | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> giving themselves the power to expel people with a vote of the board, | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> this really shows the vindictive nature of Debian culture: | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-switzerland/2018/02/msg00001.html | Aug 29 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.debian.org | Re: AGM 2018 invitation - Sat 2017-02-17 18:00, Zürich | Aug 29 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | > Cheers. | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | They have similar rules in the US constitution: the right to bear arms | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | the above is a quote | Aug 29 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a lot more black people with felonies while white people rack up misdemeanors. | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | from a dev based on switzerland | Aug 29 05:06 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: then there's Jones | Aug 29 05:07 |
| schestowitz | not even jailed | Aug 29 05:07 |
| schestowitz | or not spending time in jail | Aug 29 05:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Misdemeanors are considered more of an embarrassment and the punishment ends when it's over. | Aug 29 05:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Felons lose rights and status permanently unless it's expunged or pardoned. | Aug 29 05:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I understand most countries don't use these terms anymore. | Aug 29 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In Red Dwarf, Kryten specifically tells Lister "Relax sir, I'm sure that they hardly care about some minor misdemeanors from three million years ago.". | Aug 29 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the term must still be in use in the UK. | Aug 29 05:10 |
| kingoffrance | arms == heraldry | Aug 29 05:23 |
| kingoffrance | from what i can tell the implication is a knight without a flag/seal is a mercenary. like a boat without a flag that doesnt identify itself is assumed pirate. you basically need somewhere/someone you are defending is my understanding. | Aug 29 05:25 |
| kingoffrance | thats why teh state "well regulated" is supposed to train them | Aug 29 05:26 |
| kingoffrance | thats their flag/seal i suppose | Aug 29 05:26 |
| kingoffrance | and you dont show up when rendezvouzed they get state court martials etc. or if they dont show when feds call them i dunno, someone court martials them | Aug 29 05:27 |
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| kingoffrance | used to be trial by battle and if you didnt want to fight/duel you could elect/hire a champion i suppose. same deal -- hes defending someone else trial by jury is one of many choices historically :) | Aug 29 05:39 |
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| *Topic for #techrights is: TechRights.org | Channel #techrights for http://TechRights.org :: please also join channels #boycottnovell-social #techbytes and #boycottnovell | Aug 29 06:02 | |
| *Topic for #techrights set by schestowitz!~schestowi@unaffiliated/schestowitz at Sat Jun 9 18:16:19 2012 | Aug 29 06:02 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/28/mgm-resorts-layoffs-furloughs/?itid=pr_hybrid_collaborative_4_na-ans_4 | Aug 29 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | MGM Resorts lays off 18,000 furloughed workers - The Washington Post | Aug 29 06:20 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Choke-a-Cola layoffs | Aug 29 06:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/28/business/coke-layoffs-restructuring/index.html | Aug 29 06:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coke will offer buyouts to 4,000 workers in US and Canada - CNN | Aug 29 06:32 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In Coca-Cola's second quarter, which ended on June 26, the company saw sales drop 28% to $7.2 billion." | Aug 29 06:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://abcnews.go.com/Business/salesforce-announces-layoffs-quarterly-revenue-tops-billion/story?id=72650370 | Aug 29 06:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Salesforce announces layoffs after quarterly revenue tops $5 billion - ABC News | Aug 29 06:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Salesfarce layoffs (1,000) | Aug 29 06:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bed-bath-beyond-reorg-leads-to-2800-job-cuts-2020-08-25 | Aug 29 06:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bed Bath & Beyond reorg leads to 2,800 job cuts - MarketWatch | Aug 29 06:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bed Bath & Beyond cuts 2,800 | Aug 29 06:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cbsnews.com/news/airlines-layoffs-thousands-workers-coronavirus-pandemic-federal-aid-expires/ | Aug 29 06:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Airlines to shed tens of thousands of workers as federal pandemic aid expires - CBS News | Aug 29 06:37 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 19,000 at American Airlines | Aug 29 06:37 |
| schestowitz | reset button | Aug 29 06:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/27/retail-bankrupcy-chapter11/?itid=lk_inline_manual_10 | Aug 29 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Retail bankruptcies during the coronavirus pandemic: A running list - The Washington Post | Aug 29 06:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "reset button"> A big one. | Aug 29 06:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/big-cable-lost-over-55-million-q2-despite-lockdown-driven-couch-surfing | Aug 29 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | 'Big Cable' Lost Over $55 Million In Q2 Despite Lockdown-Driven Couch-Surfing | Zero Hedge | Aug 29 06:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | People have abandoned cable TV in droves. | Aug 29 06:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How much because of cost and how much because of the bullshit? | Aug 29 06:48 |
| kingoffrance | and if we listen to trump he saved all these jobs | Aug 29 06:51 |
| kingoffrance | you get totally different stories depending on who you ask | Aug 29 06:51 |
| oarion7 | It's more cost effective to get the exact same bullshit on the modern internet unfortunately | Aug 29 06:51 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Aug 29 06:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://twitter.com/miggsboson/status/1296495374056775688 | Aug 29 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@miggsboson: Ok so the Netflix Cuties movie. I did some research and the director is a French Senegalese Black woman who is pu… https://t.co/FMT4ic9m2A | Aug 29 06:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@miggsboson: Ok so the Netflix Cuties movie. I did some research and the director is a French Senegalese Black woman who is pu… https://t.co/FMT4ic9m2A | Aug 29 06:52 | |
| oarion7 | It actually requires significant effort to get information on the the internet that you wouldn't just get from cable news | Aug 29 06:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's pretty gross. | Aug 29 06:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the hell thought that the poster on the right was okay? | Aug 29 06:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's some sick fucking people in Hollywood. | Aug 29 06:54 |
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| scientes | oiaohm, only in English | Aug 29 07:06 |
| scientes | other languages are very different | Aug 29 07:06 |
| scientes | oiaohm, and part of the is censorship by the search engines | Aug 29 07:07 |
| scientes | meh | Aug 29 07:07 |
| psydread | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTsc1m78BUk | Aug 29 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What Comes After Open Source - YouTube | Aug 29 07:34 | |
| scientes | psydread, we walk backwards into the future | Aug 29 07:35 |
| scientes | we don't know what is coming, but we know what already happened | Aug 29 07:35 |
| psydread | a talk by Bruce Perens | Aug 29 07:35 |
| scientes | yeah but he is wearing a fucking mask | Aug 29 07:36 |
| scientes | like he is fucking bat-man or something | Aug 29 07:36 |
| scientes | and who cares about open source | Aug 29 07:36 |
| scientes | the philosophy is libre software | Aug 29 07:36 |
| psydread | I'm halfway through and he actually advocates LGPL3 and AGPL3 as 2 of the 3 licenses with Apache 2.0 being the third (for what reason other than appeasing closed source companies exactly?) | Aug 29 07:39 |
| scientes | but that doesn't mean I should listen to him | Aug 29 07:40 |
| scientes | prophesize the future | Aug 29 07:40 |
| schestowitz | [07:35] <psydread> a talk by Bruce Perens | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | I am about to publish leaks | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | 8000+ emails | Aug 29 07:41 |
| psydread | I'm just wondering what he wants or is going to achieve | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | a few minutes from now | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | not to offend BTW | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | just transparency | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | it's ready... | Aug 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | checksum ok | Aug 29 07:43 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/threads.html#07376 | Aug 29 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NO TITLE | Aug 29 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | 8187 files, 0 sub-folders | Aug 29 07:43 |
| schestowitz | now.. the article | Aug 29 07:43 |
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| kingoffrance | there is nothing new under the sun, but many old things we dont know yet -- ambrose bierce :) | Aug 29 08:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/maillist.html#00001 | Aug 29 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NO TITLE | Aug 29 08:27 | |
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| schestowitz | Re: The "Uber of" Free Software | Aug 29 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > DebBNB! | Aug 29 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > Nice of Mr. Pocock to show people what's really going on at Debian-- | Aug 29 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > using programmes like Outreachy to turn development and promotion into | Aug 29 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > something based on the Gig Economy, hiding corruption as always behind | Aug 29 09:23 |
| schestowitz | > the a cloak of fighting bigotry. CAAS-- Corruption As A Service. | Aug 29 09:23 |
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| XRevan86 | Mozilla now calls Fenix Firefox Daylight. Asked the marketing department how to distinguish the new codebase for Android, I presume. | Aug 29 12:36 |
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| smnthermes | > [notice] Tux Machines: 7 Privacy-Preserving Addons for Firefox You Should Have http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141492 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f5d7de60-ed24-4fee-874c-b06fc509d13f] | Aug 29 12:58 |
| smnthermes | "Firefox" and "privacy-preserving" don't stick together | Aug 29 12:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Privacy-Preserving Addons for Firefox You Should Have | Tux Machines | Aug 29 12:58 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 29 12:58 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: they may have hired too few competent engineers | Aug 29 13:01 |
| schestowitz | it's cheaper to get lots of fluff | Aug 29 13:01 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/google-is-removing-fediverse-apps-from-the-play-store-because-they-can-be-used-to-access-hate-speech/ | Aug 29 13:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | Google is removing Fediverse apps from the Play Store because they can be used to access hate speech | Aug 29 13:28 | |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: ^^ | Aug 29 13:28 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86 also | Aug 29 13:28 |
| *XRevan86 wanted to ask Ariadne if she knows any context, because the pick seems like a target of "cancelling". | Aug 29 13:29 | |
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| XRevan86 | But Ariadne is probably even less involved these days than I am, so I really don't know whom to ask about whether there was any "rallying up the troops" somewhere. | Aug 29 13:34 |
| XRevan86 | What makes me wonder if this is based on a complain mob is that the lesser known to Mastodonians clients went under the radar. | Aug 29 13:36 |
| XRevan86 | And clients such as Tusky, which also don't prevent access to "hate speech", but has a blacklist with just two instances. | Aug 29 13:38 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg01382.html | Aug 29 13:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NO TITLE | Aug 29 13:40 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 13:40 |
| schestowitz | Or even better: a RedistibutionPolicy: header in the .deb file, which | Aug 29 13:40 |
| schestowitz | could have values 'free', 'non-free' and 'contrib', thus unifying the | Aug 29 13:40 |
| schestowitz | whole Debian tree. It should be easy enough for the FSF to process the | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Packages file to see what can and what can't go on a CD;. | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | If necessary, the values could be more explicit about the copy-policy, | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | so the FSF could redistribute only GPL'd packages. | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | -- | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Mark Shuttleworth | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | Thawte Consulting | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/transparency/debian/debian-private/msg02394.html | Aug 29 13:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NO TITLE | Aug 29 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | I think that creating a formal organisation behind Debian is a superb | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | idea. Of course, if it turns into committee hell I'll be the first to | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | say so, but by and large this will give the Debian Project real momentum | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | without detracting from its philosophy or goals. | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | BTW - please accept a complimentary server cert so you can take secure | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | payment details like CC numbers. | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | -- | Aug 29 13:46 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 29 13:46 |
| CrystalMath | huh | Aug 29 13:47 |
| CrystalMath | this is from 1996 | Aug 29 13:47 |
| schestowitz | yes, but only published this morning | Aug 29 13:49 |
| schestowitz | first time | Aug 29 13:49 |
| CrystalMath | ah, debian-private | Aug 29 13:50 |
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| CrystalMath | https://fuckoffgoogle.de/ | Aug 29 14:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fuckoffgoogle.de | Fuck off Google! - Let's kick Google and co. out of our Lives and Spaces! | Aug 29 14:03 | |
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| schestowitz | > *OH MY GOD* | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > 1996 BRUCE PERENS, THE BRUCE I NEVER KNEW! | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > VERY VERY different from the bruce i know-- nothing like him much at | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > all. though its just a glimpse, and hes saying things many of us have | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > said at one stage or another (but were not about to co-found an org or | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > create debian as a new project). | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > THIS IS INCREDIBLE! | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > just because im amazed doesnt mean im putting too much stock in a few | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > emails. its possible he was just overloaded with stress of a new project | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > and pissed off. | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > still its a very interesting picture. i have not watched perens "after | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > open source" yet-- i was not aware of it until after sending the | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > previous email. i am fascinated by this "after open source" thing, even | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > those words in that order-- but it will be even more interesting to | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > watch having seen bruce threaten to resign from debian rather than deal | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > with rms trying to sort of maybe run debian from boston, "Like you | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > do..." WOW!* | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | Re: Outstanding Perens quote | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > 1996 June 02 (In a thread that starts with an essay titled "What comes | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > after GNU?") | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:21 |
| schestowitz | > "Gates doesn't interfere with us. I think that's just fine." | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > This week, same person, 1/4 century later: "What comes after Open | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > Source?" ...Maybe don't be so sure about Gates this time! | Aug 29 14:22 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | Re: Slavery in Debian? | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > "Perens said about *master.*debian.org that it's a 'developers-only | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > system...'" | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > I am shocked, SHOCKED to learn that Bruce Perens was a slaveowner! I | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > know it was the 1990s, but that's no excuse! | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > He also mentioned that he toured Red Hat and met the important people | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > "And all their wives and girlfriends" Not only did he run a digital | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > plantation (I know, that's what it's actually turning into these days) | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > But he was OUTRAAAAAGEOUSLY sexist too! | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > CANCEL PERENS!!!!!!! | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | > !!!!!!11111111 | Aug 29 14:22 |
| smnthermes | » [10:03:53] <TechrightsBot-tr> [notice] fuckoffgoogle.de | Fuck off Google! - Let's kick Google and co. out of our Lives and Spaces! | Aug 29 14:22 |
| smnthermes | » | Aug 29 14:22 |
| smnthermes | Nice name | Aug 29 14:22 |
| schestowitz | not new | Aug 29 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Sharing in the main channel for people to read... | Aug 29 14:23 |
| CrystalMath | awhat? | Aug 29 14:25 |
| CrystalMath | *what? | Aug 29 14:25 |
| CrystalMath | slaveowner? | Aug 29 14:25 |
| CrystalMath | what deluded mind did that come from? | Aug 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz | >> "'Cancelling' is just a framing by people that *feel* personally | Aug 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > attacked by their behavior being correctly identified as discriminatory" | Aug 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:25 |
| schestowitz | >> "Talking about this, this way also clouds whether the FSF was | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > _actually_ taken over by corporations... (as insinuated) | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > Without even commenting on how far either of those statements are from | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > reality-- as a pair they outline a very typical double standard: if | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > corporations go after you, the individual should simply cede guilt, | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > while corporations get the benefit of the doubt LITERALLY through their | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > participation in ACTUAL GENOCIDE. | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > so nazis can accuse someone of being a raging misogynist and the | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > hivemind goody-goodies will rally behind the nazis and their lawyers, | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > who proceed to sue people for things like "we invented long names 40 | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > years ago when they were simply a workaround against our own artificial | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > limits, and are still waiting to get paid" and "we invented rectangles | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > with rounded bits on them". thats justice today. | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > but theyre just as much fun individually: | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | >> "'Cancelling' is just a framing by people that *feel* personally | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > attacked by their behavior being correctly identified as discriminatory" | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > translation: we can say anything we want, true or not, misquote you and | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > lie and demand you be fired-- and its all your fault. | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > i mean thats what actually happens again and again and again-- to person | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > after person after person, but RIGHT NOW its all stallmans fault. duh! | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | >> "Talking about this, this way also clouds whether the FSF was | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > _actually_ taken over by corporations... (as insinuated) | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > because all the actual bribing and actual loss of autonomy is irrelevant | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > if someone ACTUALLY took offense or something-- and, the actions of | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > those who demanded a head on a platter are COMPLETELY irrelevant, even | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > if theyre considerably worse. | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > and the fact that it looks like very broad corruption all the way to the | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > top? doesnt matter, we found a witch! we dressed him like that-- *burn | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > him anyway!* | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > also, if the former HEAD OF THE ACLU who is female defends you against | Aug 29 14:26 |
| schestowitz | > all this-- | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > SHE is probably just framing things because she believes in some | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > misogynist nonsense like "due process" or "context" or you know-- being | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > fair or reasonable in the slightest. | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > but thats just what ASSHOLES want. *NICE people* are easily spotted by | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > the trail of decapitated heads left behind. dont you *hand-flapping | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > neckbeards* know anything?! | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > iq tests are misleading and biased. if they werent, they would prove | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | > that the world is too stupid for any need to measure intelligence. | Aug 29 14:27 |
| schestowitz | Remember they try to portray Daniel as a criminal (e.g. over GDPR) when companies llike GAFAM violate GDPR at a MASSIVE scale while LAUGHING. | Aug 29 14:27 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: don't know anything about it, but amusing if true | Aug 29 14:28 |
| Ariadne | my guess is you can find the people sealioning google/apple into doing that on gab | Aug 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: first time I heard about it | Aug 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz | it says fediverse | Aug 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | so I thought, wait... | Aug 29 14:29 |
| schestowitz | this isn't about gab specifically... this is new | Aug 29 14:29 |
| Ariadne | yes, i know | Aug 29 14:30 |
| Ariadne | what i am saying is, it's probably gab users trying to settle the score | Aug 29 14:30 |
| Ariadne | since some people on fediverse tried (and succeeded) to get gab's apps knocked off the app stores | Aug 29 14:30 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: But they leave Tusky alone. | Aug 29 14:38 |
| CrystalMath | watching Bruce Perens now | Aug 29 14:46 |
| CrystalMath | i agree with everything he said so far | Aug 29 14:46 |
| CrystalMath | i like the Coherent License Set | Aug 29 14:47 |
| CrystalMath | it perfectly matches my own personal license set | Aug 29 14:47 |
| CrystalMath | nice, i was extremely sceptical about anything post-open-source; but i *really* like what Bruce Perens said | Aug 29 14:59 |
| MinceR | 29 152547 < CrystalMath> what deluded mind did that come from? | Aug 29 14:59 |
| MinceR | i can't tell if they're joking | Aug 29 14:59 |
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| XRevan86 | Ariadne: So either they're more subtle than usual, or this doesn't add up. | Aug 29 15:41 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20020265 | Aug 29 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4328382) | Aug 29 16:40 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4327549) | Aug 29 16:52 | |
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| schestowitz | https://pointieststick.com/2020/08/28/this-week-in-kde-tons-and-tons-and-tons-of-plasma-5-20-features-bugfixes-and-ui-improvements/ | Aug 29 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pointieststick.com | This week in KDE: Tons and tons and tons of Plasma 5.20 features, bugfixes, and UI improvements – Adventures in Linux and KDE | Aug 29 17:28 | |
| MinceR | https://hackerone.com/reports/783877 | Aug 29 17:40 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/07/20/slack-is-dead/ | Aug 29 17:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slack Committed a Very Major Crime That Can Cost Many Billions If Not Trillions in Damages for Years to Come | Techrights | Aug 29 17:44 | |
| schestowitz | they already had MAJOR incidents | Aug 29 17:44 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20013111 | Aug 29 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4322493) | Aug 29 17:51 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20013051 | Aug 29 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4321018) | Aug 29 18:17 | |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: i've thought before that the some part of the same crowd that stans mastodon so aggressively that they try to crush competitors may do the same with tusky. | Aug 29 18:27 |
| Ariadne | but either way, fuck gab :) | Aug 29 18:27 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: going to move techrights at some point to run on new infrastructure. https://imgur.com/a/uISXGPz | Aug 29 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Aug 29 18:28 | |
| XRevan86 | First time I see "stan" used this way, but Wiktionary knows it as "obsessive fan". | Aug 29 18:29 |
| Ariadne | yes, from eminem's "stan" | Aug 29 18:29 |
| Ariadne | but, either way, i consider activitypub and ostatus to be extremely flawed | Aug 29 18:31 |
| Ariadne | so i have stopped following fediverse | Aug 29 18:31 |
| Ariadne | except to laugh at the security vulnerabilities introduced by gargron being useless | Aug 29 18:31 |
| MinceR | Stan, Satan's half-wit brother | Aug 29 18:32 |
| Ariadne | the majority of my infrastructure (basically everything that can be moved without coordination) hasbeen pulled from fiberhub | Aug 29 18:34 |
| Ariadne | it is a great day | Aug 29 18:34 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/11/eee98b1144cc5948.jpg | Aug 29 18:38 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: in fairness, the slack logo is about as awful as the ethics of the company | Aug 29 18:38 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 29 18:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Social Security's new policy is they check Facebook and Twitter to gather evidence about people. | Aug 29 18:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lawyers are advising their clients to just get rid of both. | Aug 29 18:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Previously, the lawyers said "Make everything private." and then Social Security started getting posts marked "private" anyway, because......they're the government. | Aug 29 18:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just constant back and forth, and lawyers don't advise you to do something for no reason. So acting like everyone without a Facebook is part of the tinfoil hat crowd is, kind of ridiculous really. | Aug 29 18:42 |
| Ariadne | gather evidence to what end? | Aug 29 18:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To say that people aren't disabled. Like, they find people smiling or taking a walk in a state park. | Aug 29 18:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't even try to prove when the picture was taken. It's guilty until proven innocent. | Aug 29 18:43 |
| Ariadne | well even if someone is smiling for a photo, that does not mean they don't have mental health issues | Aug 29 18:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They just go "Nyaaah! You were walking in a state park one day. DENIED!". | Aug 29 18:43 |
| Ariadne | and you can have many disabilities and still hike | Aug 29 18:43 |
| Ariadne | this seems dumb | Aug 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're too cheap to hire Private Investigators and they don't have enough in house to actually sit on everyone except the most egregious offenses. | Aug 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they think that they can pump Facebook cheaply and have an Examiner pick it over for evidence. | Aug 29 18:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They used to have a system set up so that they could just arbitrarily make decisions like these. | Aug 29 18:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the 80s they threw tons of people off Social Security, and many found their way back on, or committed suicide. | Aug 29 18:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was back when Congress cared, so they passed the law standardizing CDRs, and Social Security still didn't want to pay benefits to people, so they found creative ways to interpret it, which got them sued, and the Supreme Court ordered them to develop a fair process. | Aug 29 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they did, and more people qualified, and now it's broke, and Trump's back to looking for more ways to game the system to throw people off of it. | Aug 29 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Richard Stallman commented on this once. | Aug 29 18:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A few years ago. | Aug 29 18:47 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: It's easier for me, since I don't grok either protocol. | Aug 29 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said "Without sufficient good jobs, it hardly makes sense to try to catch even a few people here and there.". | Aug 29 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He seems to be viewing this from an outdated perspective where someone in the government actually cares. | Aug 29 18:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People tend to live, mentally, about where they were when they were like 20. | Aug 29 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In mom's opinion, college costs what it did in 1980 and everyone should go pay $1,500 to be a nurse. | Aug 29 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing you say will change that opinion. | Aug 29 18:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "$1,500? Try $20,000! It costs $900 to be a CNA so you can wipe old people's asses for $10 an hour. What the hell planet have you been on?". | Aug 29 18:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's like, "Well, it's all these people studying political science and forestry and stuff.". | Aug 29 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I say, "Yeah, the banks don't care what you study. The government promised them they'll extract every last penny from you, with interest. So it's created an everything bubble in education and now the people who aren't there to screw around suffer.". | Aug 29 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "That's an entirely different issue." | Aug 29 18:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's like "So why do people go screw around and then cry 4-5 years later?". | Aug 29 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Because if anyone thought about what would happen in 4 years, a guy like Trump would never have been the president.". | Aug 29 18:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For the years and years of wall to wall terrorism coverage scaring old people half to death, Fox News downplayed the Coronavirus because it's obvious where the failure came from. | Aug 29 18:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The tragic part is that it's killed as many people in America as if a nuclear bomb went off. | Aug 29 18:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People are still gathering by the hundreds or thousands with no masks on to see Trump. | Aug 29 18:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The VA reports so many veterans dying of COVID-19 lately, it's like we had another Florida. | Aug 29 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If any of this had happened under Obama, Fox would be non-stop balls to the wall blaming the president. | Aug 29 18:57 |
| MinceR | i guess twitler blaming it all on "jyna" didn't work out after all | Aug 29 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, Fox is twisting themselves into all sorts of horrible knots to beam bozo rays into my mom and dad's brains, blaming Biden (who isn't even in office) for the country falling apart under Trump and for Trump hiding in a bunker under the White House instead of doing anything about it. | Aug 29 18:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy puts it on Fox News to annoy me. They have "Judge" Jeanine who is always slurring her words and looks like an evil villain whose plot was to inject the world supply of botox into her face. | Aug 29 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seriously, it looks like someone opened the Ark of the Covenant when you turn on Fox News. My parents love it though. | Aug 29 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: People don't like admitting that they get old. It happens. | Aug 29 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They only people who don't get old are the ones who die before they get old. Getting old is a luxury. | Aug 29 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my mom that when my hair started falling out I just shaved my head. I said the other alternative was to "look like a total tit, like Elon Musk". | Aug 29 19:03 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 29 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He can launch a car into orbit but he can't make his hair look good. | Aug 29 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seriously, launching a car... | Aug 29 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a publicity stunt. | Aug 29 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You need a dummy payload of a certain mass to demonstrate the rocket. | Aug 29 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might as well say there's a Tesla in orbit. | Aug 29 19:09 |
| MinceR | seems reasonable | Aug 29 19:09 |
| MinceR | people do seem to care more about the payload being a tesla than musk's hair | Aug 29 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I disagree. It should have been a Chevy. That way nobody would ever have to buy that Chevy. | Aug 29 19:09 |
| MinceR | somebody has to buy a chevy otherwise? | Aug 29 19:10 |
| MinceR | i pity that person | Aug 29 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $60,000 and less reliable than a 1989 Yugo that Edmunds bought as a joke. | Aug 29 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Well, I told John I could get him GM employee pricing on a Chevy (this was back when I cared), and I still didn't recommend doing it because he'd blow through the entire savings in the 7 years between the warranty expiring and the car turning 10. | Aug 29 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/ryanmac/kenosha-militia-facebook-reported-455-times-moderators | Aug 29 19:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | A Kenosha Militia Facebook Event Asking Attendees To Bring Weapons Was Reported 455 Times. Moderators Said It Didn’t Violate Any Rules. | Aug 29 19:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook is a platform for domestic terrorists. | Aug 29 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Zuckerberg is doing damage control now. | Aug 29 19:14 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/08/29/indiana-bbq-restaurant-shut-down-after-christian-owner-defies-mask-mandate/ | Aug 29 19:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-friendlyatheist.patheos.com | Indiana BBQ Restaurant Shut Down After Christian Owner Defies Mask Mandate | Hemant Mehta | Friendly Atheist | Patheos | Aug 29 19:23 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Wells County, Indiana called bullshit on a restaurant owner who said that he didn't have to obey a mask mandate because "God owns my business." and shut the business down. | Aug 29 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana really has a severe Coronavirus problem that they've been able to cover up by making it so hard to get tested that most people don't bother to pursue it. | Aug 29 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As a result, only half as many, per capita, have been tested v. Illinois. | Aug 29 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When 4 people came down with Coronavirus symptoms in April where my mom works, that's what it took to get the health department out there to test them, and it's a nursing home. | Aug 29 19:26 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They're claiming that it's just big city Democrats who are doing nothing and letting whatever happens happen. But when it takes 4 nursing home employees sick at the same time before the state tests them, what do you think is going on in Indiana? | Aug 29 19:27 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The (mostly black) riots and looting up in Kenosha has come to a stop. | Aug 29 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers asked for 1,000 National Guard troops and 200 federal police officers. | Aug 29 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, well, who is going to break in and burn down your store while a soldier is standing right there? The Guard should have been called out days ago and it should be in Chicago right now | Aug 29 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 95% of the city residents would welcome it after what Lori Lightfoot and Kim Foxx have allowed to go on there for the last 2 months. | Aug 29 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the mayor would be more interested in dealing with the crime and poverty in the slums than she is in talking out both sides of her mouth and vote harvesting them, and most of them are decent people who go work at a job, but there's so much crime there that nobody does anything about. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even in good times. Most of the people live there and have to deal with that because it's the only thing keeping the rent down. | Aug 29 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really hope that before the election, the feds come raid people in Waukegan because nobody else is doing it and the Sheriff is such a fucking joke that there's over 100,000 active arrest warrants that have piled up. In some cases he's caught the guy 2-3 times and didn't even realize there was already a warrant. | Aug 29 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They're from the government, and they're here to help. | Aug 29 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | B-) | Aug 29 19:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody audits Facebook, so they can claim that they've responded to the mess they caused in Kenosha by removing thousands of QAnon groups, and nobody will be able to independently verify that. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| MinceR | 29 203402 < DaemonFC[m]> MinceR: They're from the government, and they're here to help. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| MinceR | ...themselves. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| MinceR | and/or the government | Aug 29 19:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that Trump is interested in raiding cities and taking out some of the trash. Of course, it's so nakedly an election stunt. | Aug 29 19:35 |
| MinceR | he could take himself out, then | Aug 29 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He could have been doing this for 4 years and bagged 20,000 more of them, and he didn't. | Aug 29 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After the election, it'll stop. No more "Operation Legend". | Aug 29 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It did make sense for the federal government to get rid of paper checks. Unfortunately, most of the money they saved came out of the post office. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the post office lost about $1 million worth of postage each year for the last 10 years. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it was really more about taking another swipe at the post office than anything. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said a lot of calls Social Security got though were checks gone missing from the mail or stolen. | Aug 29 19:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was living with someone who moved out and then decided he had a brilliant plan to get me in trouble with the police. (Story of my life.) He would call them and complain that I was stealing his checks out of the mail. I told the officer, "Well, that's actually pretty funny.". He asks me why that is. I say, "Because he gets direct deposit and he uses Chase bank and if you look at his account records I won't have had | Aug 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | anything to do with that account. Why don't you go charge him with filing a false police report and trying to use you to get revenge?". | Aug 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cops almost never charge someone with filing a false report, so it's very common for a bitter ex to go tell them a story. No risk of getting punished and it may screw up your life. | Aug 29 20:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All my exes manage to dig their own holes though. | Aug 29 20:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Shooting someone, stealing from Walmart, it just goes on and on. | Aug 29 20:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I read the "Shooting someone." part and I said, "Wow, he went full Dick Cheney.". | Aug 29 20:02 |
| XRevan86 | https://groups.io/g/htop/topic/htop_3_0_0_released/76441967 | Aug 29 20:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-htop@groups.io | htop-3.0.0 released | Aug 29 20:03 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the US, driving without insurance is a crime, but it's only a misdemeanor. Some lady driving with no insurance totaled my cousin's car the other day. | Aug 29 20:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my mom, "Well, Amber can sue her for that, or her insurance company could, but then all you have to do is wait for the judgment to come down and then file bankruptcy.". | Aug 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's like, "You can do that?". | Aug 29 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "File bankruptcy and screw over the person whose car you trashed and possibly sent them to the hospital? Sure. As long as you weren't drunk when you did it.". | Aug 29 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She says, "Is that federal or state? I said. That's federal law. As long as you weren't drunk, you can file bankruptcy against the person you hit in a car accident. All those years I had minimum coverage, I figured if I hit anyone I'll let them get my insurance for whatever they get, and then file bankruptcy.". | Aug 29 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they can sue you for pain and suffering, attorney fees, their $90,000 car, their $200,000 hospital bill..... | Aug 29 20:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All you need to do is hire a lawyer and file bankruptcy. $1,000 or so. | Aug 29 20:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I certainly would. Especially since people always ham it up after an accident hoping to live off you forever. In "no fault states" like Michigan, the insurance is outrageous because people can bilk your insurance company and claim they'll never work again. Get some sleazy doctor and bribe him. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's actually more corrupt than Illinois there. | Aug 29 20:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Don't know any sleazy doctors? No problem. The sleazy lawyer does! | Aug 29 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm telling you, people are DUMB. "Oh I don't need insurance. It's $20 a month! It's only a misdemeanor!" *crash* | Aug 29 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can do all sorts of twisted things and then use bankruptcy to get out of it. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's actually what's going on with almost all of these Chapter 11s recently. | Aug 29 20:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's actually no cool off period between corporate bankruptcies. | Aug 29 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can put your business in Chapter 11 and then do it again a year or two later. "Chapter 22" is a lawyer joke. | Aug 29 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: What's going on with Salesfarce is simply revolting. | Aug 29 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have this supposedly very woke CEO who says "ethical capitalism"" blah blah blah and then when profits are up 28%, he fires 1,000 people that busted their asses to get the company there. | Aug 29 20:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 29 20:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In December 2019, the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy found that Salesforce was one of 91 companies who "paid an effective federal tax rate of 0% or less" in 2018, as a result of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017.[174] Their findings were published in a report based on the 379 Fortune 500 companies that declared a profit in 2018.[175]" | Aug 29 20:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, the companies that got a very big tax cut under Trump collectively eliminated at least 100,000 jobs in the following 2 years. | Aug 29 20:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats don't care that the Coronavirus is crushing small business out. | Aug 29 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois has had laws and regulations that destroyed most small businesses, and now the Coronavirus is taking out the rest (mostly restaurants. | Aug 29 20:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Each time small business had another round of failure in Illinois, the Democrats won more seats in the next election. | Aug 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I can't imagine that Nancy Pelosi sees a problem with small business going under. 80-90% of their campaign contributions go to the Republicans. | Aug 29 20:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, the people they lay off will be terrified of not finding a job to go to and want the guy at the top gone. | Aug 29 20:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say Medicare for All is a good idea, except that we need to address the problem of billing fraud first. | Aug 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've made some good improvements to that in the last 10 years or so. | Aug 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You used to hear about all sorts of crazy shit. | Aug 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They were so brazen about it that they'd advertise things like "knee braces that Medicare pays for" on late night TV. | Aug 29 20:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'd have doctors signing off that you needed it and the doctor never even saw you. | Aug 29 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then you'd find out that the knee braces cost them about $10 to make, but they had Medicare paying $280. | Aug 29 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Meanwhile, every old person in the country is going "Well, it's 'free'!". | Aug 29 20:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Medical bills weren't why I filed bankruptcy, but while I had one open anyway, I threw my co-pays for everything from the last year into it anyway. | Aug 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Even "reputable" medical establishments in the US commit soft fraud on Medicare. | Aug 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They do a lot of unnecessary treatments in order to pad the bill. | Aug 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like they really did it, but it was completely unnecessary. | Aug 29 20:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You should have seen what they did to me last year. | Aug 29 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They told me that I tested positive for a certain bacterial infection and I needed Penicillin. I was like, "Okay, don't see how that could happen..., but I'll do it anyway.". | Aug 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they give me a shot, bill me $1,400 for it, and then go "Well, there was a mistake in the lab and your sample was contaminated and we're still billing you $1,400 anyway because you really did come in here and get a shot.". | Aug 29 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So while I was filing bankruptcy I was like "Okay fuckers. Eat this.". and I shoved that one in there. | Aug 29 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Talks of $5 vaccines that they charge $150 for at a pharmacy if you don't have insurance. | Aug 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Penicillin is CHEAP, for them. | Aug 29 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's listed as $20 for the drug and $1,380 because a nurse spent 5 minutes injecting it into you. | Aug 29 20:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess that Admiral claiming that their random domain names that load anti-adblock are protected by the DMCA doesn't matter. | Aug 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've found a few new ones and they got pushed into Easyprivacy.. | Aug 29 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm glad they're tackling anti-adblock in a commonly used filter. | Aug 29 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hopefully, site owners will see how ridiculous aggressive re-monetization schemes are when they only cost money and don't actually bring enough ad revenue back in to cover their cost. | Aug 29 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/magazine/sex-offender-operation-net-nanny.html | Aug 29 21:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Convicted of Sex Crimes, but With No Victims - The New York Times | Aug 29 21:39 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "At least five of the men have committed suicide, including a 66-year-old caught in the same operation as Hambrick who then fled to California. As the police there moved to make the arrest, the man shot himself in the head." | Aug 29 21:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In entrapment cases, the accused often take the stand to give their side of the story, which rarely works in their favor. “Even the most law-abiding person, subject to cross-examination, can look unreliable,” Roth says." | Aug 29 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The main purpose of the stings is that it allows the cops to look useful without doing much real work. | Aug 29 21:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't give a shit what happens to the lives of the people they arrest. | Aug 29 21:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's pretty twisted, really, to have a cop baiting some guy in by telling him to come eat out her pussy. | Aug 29 21:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then claim he was trying to rape someone who doesn't exist. | Aug 29 21:46 |
| oiaohm | Really its no different to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bait_car | Aug 29 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bait car - Wikipedia | Aug 29 21:47 | |
| oiaohm | Police are legally allowed to set-up stings. | Aug 29 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I happen to believe that the main difference between criminals and everyone else is luck of not getting caught. | Aug 29 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you go over everyone, you can charge everyone with something, even if it's just misdemeanors. | Aug 29 21:49 |
| oiaohm | Its not required to wait for victim either. Bait cars have got first time offenders. | Aug 29 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They admitted that they see it as a game to get convictions cheaply. | Aug 29 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think this case should have been maybe a Class A Misdemeanor. | Aug 29 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They hit him with a felony. | Aug 29 21:50 |
| oiaohm | With sex crimes it really costly as well to treat the victims. | Aug 29 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There was no element here of "forcible rape". | Aug 29 21:50 |
| oiaohm | So there is a lot of work to attempt to stop sex crimes before victims. | Aug 29 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At best this should be like trying to corrupt the morals of a child or something. | Aug 29 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana has that one on the books. | Aug 29 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes they offer to plea bargain statutory rape down to contributing to delinquency of a minor. | Aug 29 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just like everything. You get a plea bargain based on how the prosecution feels about what might happen if it goes to court. | Aug 29 21:52 |
| oiaohm | Really when you look at the majority of people caught by police office pretending to be under age they have child porn and other problem items. | Aug 29 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you get worse people getting lighter sentences sometimes. | Aug 29 21:52 |
| oiaohm | The hard part is effective sting system normally gets a few first timers. | Aug 29 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "A strong predictor of predatory behavior is an obsession with child pornography, but at the time of their arrest, according to the State Patrol, 89 percent have none in their possession." | Aug 29 21:53 |
| oiaohm | Problem is giving them lighter sentences can be a mistake as well | Aug 29 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So only 11% of the people they bait have CP. | Aug 29 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This seems like an expensive waste of time to me. | Aug 29 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's other ways to catch people with that. | Aug 29 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For every person they tempt and then sucker, how many real crimes are happening while the police drain their own resources away for this? | Aug 29 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's really no good stats to suggest that most of these people went out looking to have sex with a teenager | Aug 29 21:55 |
| oiaohm | Please note 89 percent not having the child porn any more was from documented cases where the police had tracked them getting the porn. | Aug 29 21:55 |
| oiaohm | This is what makes it so hard. | Aug 29 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they can come up with some that suggest otherwise, that would be nice. | Aug 29 21:55 |
| kingoffrance | you mean they had it and then it disappeared? | Aug 29 21:56 |
| scientes | psydread, OK, Bruce Perens (and I did recognize the name) was a DPL, so that gives him political credibility to me | Aug 29 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In a national study from 2017, 87 percent of 334 men convicted in such stings had no record of prior, concurrent or subsequent convictions — data in line with Packard and O’Connell’s estimates. Currently, about 150 men convicted in Washington State stings are still incarcerated. If the psychologists’ estimates are correct, as many as 125 of them may not be sexual deviants and pose a low risk to the community | Aug 29 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It sounds like they destroyed 150 lives to catch 25 really bad people. | Aug 29 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 334 if you consider those not in jail but on the registry now. | Aug 29 21:56 |
| oiaohm | kingoffrance: you think how a lot of people view porn in general lot don't download and long term store it. Preditors are not that different. | Aug 29 21:56 |
| scientes | psydread, this guy is absolutely crazy | Aug 29 21:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So really, about 7-8% of whoever they catch is a person who is worthy of severe punishment, by their own admission, and perhaps half of them worthy of significant punishment. | Aug 29 21:57 |
| kingoffrance | yeah makes sense | Aug 29 21:58 |
| scientes | you have to be a fool to predict the future in the way he does | Aug 29 21:58 |
| scientes | and he is just "blah blah blah blah" | Aug 29 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't predict the future. That's why the fact that 92% had no priors in these stings is the figure that stands out. | Aug 29 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It goes without saying that almost all of them probably never would have broken a law had the cops not prodded them. | Aug 29 21:59 |
| scientes | why can't he just listen to Richard Stallman | Aug 29 21:59 |
| scientes | instead of waffling | Aug 29 21:59 |
| oiaohm | DaemonFC[m]: no its higher than 7-8% are worthy of sever punishment when it comes to underage sex issues. Problem is how do you sort out a person who is really good at covering their tracks from a first time offender. | Aug 29 21:59 |
| scientes | Richard Stallman always declaimed any association to "Open Source" and Bruce Parens is nothing more than a Yes Man | Aug 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, one thing that helps cover tracks is that teenagers don't want to admit that they're meeting people on the internet for sex. | Aug 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I sure wouldn't have. | Aug 29 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Oh yeah, while you were out of the house, I was in here having sex with people." | Aug 29 22:00 |
| scientes | that is repackaging libre software (from the DFSG) and then calling it "Open Source" because that is the term the white-washers want | Aug 29 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't have much to gain there. They piss their parents off and yeah, the police might get you, but their parents will be livid and punish them. | Aug 29 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So there's really no gain in it for either party. | Aug 29 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's exactly why I never would have told my parents I was having sex with people in my teenage years. | Aug 29 22:02 |
| psydread | sciences, I agree on that, maybe he is trying to excuse himself for what he's done, but it would be better for him not to interfere with the future of libre software by not being around to facilitate another hijacking movement | Aug 29 22:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I know exactly what they'd have done to me. | Aug 29 22:02 |
| scientes | psydread, no harm done or intended | Aug 29 22:02 |
| scientes | I've had correspondance with ESR because I was woring gpsd and I really admire his philosophical work | Aug 29 22:02 |
| scientes | psydread, he just doesn't get the Kingdom of Heaven thing | Aug 29 22:03 |
| scientes | *using gpsd | Aug 29 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not that my parents could have done much more than they did to sanction me. Throw me out of the house and tell me good luck with that. | Aug 29 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most people get more. Some less. | Aug 29 22:04 |
| scientes | and it causes him to muddle up his goals and his philosophy (and he has none, it is all plaugerized) | Aug 29 22:04 |
| scientes | that said, as I said I respect him politically | Aug 29 22:05 |
| scientes | Debian was, and still is, a massive success | Aug 29 22:05 |
| scientes | Debian's ability to function outside the corporate and nation-state system is very impressive | Aug 29 22:06 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/8a1c6da439136d87.mp4 | Aug 29 22:07 |
| scientes | They don't even have the "export of encryption as munitions" warning, because as they are *not* a corporate personhood, it simply doesn't make any sense | Aug 29 22:07 |
| scientes | It is clear that they are immune to such politics. | Aug 29 22:08 |
| MinceR | too bad they got taken over by hedrat anyway | Aug 29 22:08 |
| kingoffrance | ami i missing something? https://www.spi-inc.org/ on the front page (see bottom) | Aug 29 22:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spi-inc.org | SPI | Aug 29 22:09 | |
| kingoffrance | i never really looked into debian | Aug 29 22:09 |
| kingoffrance | so i was excited for a second :) | Aug 29 22:09 |
| kingoffrance | just means there are intermediaries from what i see | Aug 29 22:09 |
| scientes | kingoffrance, i thought i ignored you | Aug 29 22:09 |
| scientes | perhaps I have to clear close [he]xchat | Aug 29 22:10 |
| scientes | *clean | Aug 29 22:10 |
| kingoffrance | i mean yeah i see proejct leader https://www.debian.org/devel/leader but then see bottom of page | Aug 29 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.debian.org | Debian Project Leader | Aug 29 22:11 | |
| kingoffrance | im not picking on them -- just anyone claiming immune from corporations i find sketchy; more immune perhaps | Aug 29 22:12 |
| kingoffrance | Debian is a registered trademark of Software in the Public Interest, Inc. | Aug 29 22:14 |
| kingoffrance | how is that not dependent on an incorporation? | Aug 29 22:15 |
| kingoffrance | if you meant immune from commercial for-profit things, perhaps | Aug 29 22:16 |
| kingoffrance | but lots of things have such foundations ...that get commerical for-profit donations from whoever, etc. | Aug 29 22:16 |
| MinceR | https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/89f498176211862f.jpg | Aug 29 22:20 |
| kingoffrance | is there something missing between direct corporate personhood versus indirect (incorporation owns our trademark) ? | Aug 29 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | *im missing | Aug 29 22:21 |
| kingoffrance | surely this means if you do something someone doesnt like, theyll just target that thing that isnt named after you but that has your trademark | Aug 29 22:22 |
| kingoffrance | just looks like lawyer games to me; no *I* dont have corporate personhood, but my good buddy spi does and he watches my stuff | Aug 29 22:31 |
| kingoffrance | cia/nsa/army: so you're saying your good buddy spi is exporting munitions? | Aug 29 22:32 |
| MinceR | what happened to the navy, the marines, the air force and the coast goard? | Aug 29 22:33 |
| scientes | psydread, I mean at least Saul of Tarus had this own philosophy | Aug 29 22:34 |
| scientes | instead of a blatent rip-off | Aug 29 22:35 |
| oarion7 | kingoffrance: Excusez-moi de vous déranger mais je me demandais, est-ce que vous êtes Jean d'Orléans ou Louis Alphonse de Bourbon ? | Aug 29 22:35 |
| scientes | basically, he should have stuck to politics | Aug 29 22:35 |
| scientes | instead of trying to do the profesy business | Aug 29 22:36 |
| psydread | I don't even know what he does these days other than prophecies | Aug 29 22:39 |
| kingoffrance | if the laws that messed up, by all means. normal person i think just sees it as shell games | Aug 29 22:40 |
| scientes | psydread, by creating the OSI he got into the prophet business quite seriously | Aug 29 22:41 |
| scientes | and when his guy was at EU along with the DPL of my formative years , he spouted a bunch of Yes Man shit that had nothing to do with the political goals of libre software | Aug 29 22:42 |
| scientes | *Brussels | Aug 29 22:42 |
| scientes | Zacchiroli | Aug 29 22:43 |
| scientes | who is responsible for getting upstream git urls on all the packages | Aug 29 22:43 |
| kingoffrance | oarion7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fUq9S0fPPI hes a 1st coming character and thats a first coming game in alchemical disguise. my nick is just to cut off any 2nd coming king showing up, which i deny. | Aug 29 22:44 |
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| scientes | a modest semantic web accomplishment | Aug 29 22:44 |
| scientes | considering that Arch has the ability to download source code, it could be put into that Debian is and also eliminate the tarball legacy, but that project just doesn't have the decipline that Debian has | Aug 29 22:45 |
| scientes | but heh, Arch signed their packages | Aug 29 22:45 |
| scientes | so anything is possible | Aug 29 22:45 |
| scientes | Debians inability to use a git *instead* of a tarball has a few ways it could be fixed | Aug 29 22:46 |
| scientes | I should clarify that requirement: packages should be able to refer to a git repo as a *canonical* source that can be compiled into a package | Aug 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom used the "One of those 40 million aborted babies could have cured cancer!". | Aug 29 22:48 |
| scientes | without creating a dependence on git | Aug 29 22:48 |
| scientes | this is possible | Aug 29 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "And one of them could have been Hitler. Besides, we have 8 billion people now and no cancer cure.". | Aug 29 22:48 |
| psydread | this has always prevented me from packaging stuff, so I just build software in my home directory if there is no package or if the one that is available is broken or outdated | Aug 29 22:50 |
| scientes | psydread, it is less messy than rpm or arch packaging | Aug 29 22:51 |
| scientes | because each file has one, and only one format at a time | Aug 29 22:51 |
| scientes | there is no diverse synaxes in a single file | Aug 29 22:51 |
| scientes | of the metadata | Aug 29 22:51 |
| *scientes is a big fan of debhelper precisely because does not know anything about its implementation | Aug 29 22:52 | |
| scientes | if a DSL can make its implementation irrelevent to its' use I think that is a good sign | Aug 29 22:53 |
| scientes | unless some mess like autoshit | Aug 29 22:53 |
| scientes | *unlike | Aug 29 22:54 |
| psydread | I will look into debhelper, but I really don't want to get involved in autohell | Aug 29 22:57 |
| scientes | psydread, my point is you don't have to | Aug 29 22:57 |
| scientes | you have to have a package you want packaged first | Aug 29 22:58 |
| scientes | and Debian Policy is that packages should be experts on their packages | Aug 29 22:58 |
| scientes | and personally use the software | Aug 29 22:58 |
| scientes | *packagers | Aug 29 22:58 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, i used to use gnu stow for basic stuff installed under home dir, or system wide; you need perl 5; dont know about nowadays. | Aug 29 23:10 |
| kingoffrance | all it does is create symlinks | Aug 29 23:10 |
| schestowitz | [18:28] <Ariadne> schestowitz: going to move techrights at some point to run on new infrastructure. https://imgur.com/a/uISXGPz | Aug 29 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Aug 29 23:18 | |
| schestowitz | Excellent, thanks | Aug 29 23:18 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/e753eafe11ea989b.mp4 | Aug 29 23:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In May 2018, Hambrick had a bench trial and took the stand on his own behalf." | Aug 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ouch. | Aug 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why do lawyers tend to urge a bench trial for this stuff? | Aug 29 23:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Harder to convince 12 people than 1. | Aug 29 23:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) Enters Feature Freeze, Beta Expected on October 1st http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141515 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e0811e75-6038-4662-b162-4b353aaf5392] | Aug 29 23:43 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It says they're really active with the stings in Seattle-Tacoma. Good chance they're on Grindr and catch John eventually, I gueess. | Aug 29 23:43 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141516 [https://pleroma.site/objects/50bd77a0-b307-465b-9142-cc0a0a523706] | Aug 29 23:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What is a Debian Developer? http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/what-is-a-debian-developer/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/ebe69946-5742-483d-9288-9216ae776a16] | Aug 29 23:56 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: no reply ever from TSA | Aug 29 23:57 |
| schestowitz | it's like talking to a wall | Aug 29 23:57 |
| schestowitz | or down a well | Aug 29 23:57 |
| schestowitz | "we have an email address, hence we hold staff accountable" | Aug 29 23:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 12 deaths associated with covid-19 yesterday, compared to another thousand in the US | Aug 29 23:58 |
| schestowitz | you can tell when a country isn't solving it. At all! | Aug 29 23:58 |
| schestowitz | GOP pretending it's just going to reach every person, so basically let it all spread | Aug 29 23:59 |
| schestowitz | if it killed just 1% of those who get it, that's 3.3 million people in the US | Aug 29 23:59 |
| schestowitz | which is a lot | Aug 29 23:59 |
| schestowitz | and totally preventable | Aug 29 23:59 |
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