●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, September 29, 2023 ●● ● Sep 29 [00:00] DaemonFC She screamed that she's heard about the rabbit so much that she was starting to see it too. [00:00] DaemonFC And that was the point where they had her committed. [00:00] *MinceR gives voice to sharkey admfubar [00:00] DaemonFC No, I'm not in as good a shape as I used to be in, sadly. [00:00] MinceR DaemonFC: sharkey's from irccloud [00:00] DaemonFC Clever. [00:00] *MinceR removes voice from sharkey [00:01] DaemonFC Liberia Chat became so paranoid about IRC cloud that they ban everyone they see coming in from it now. [00:01] DaemonFC On the off chance that it's me. [00:01] MinceR lol [00:01] *lundy (~b9813d03@q8ban9vyag5t6.irc) has joined #techrights [00:02] *DaemonFC gives voice to lundy [00:02] DaemonFC They also changed their VPN policy because of me. [00:02] DaemonFC Anyone connecting from one gets banned a few minutes later. [00:02] DaemonFC They're so crazy because of trying to get rid of me. [00:03] DaemonFC And they don't even understand that I'm right there watching them kill dozens of accounts that are not mine. [00:03] eidolon irccloud on a 486?! [00:03] ZedHedTed VPNs are fine w/ them as long as you make some kind of TLS modification in your irc config [00:03] ZedHedTed i'm connected thru ExpressVPN right now [00:04] ZedHedTed sorry not TLS, SASL. [00:05] DaemonFC Yeah, for SASL you need to connect without the VPN to register. [00:06] eidolon :o) [00:07] MinceR 29 010316 <+eidolon> irccloud on a 486?! [00:07] MinceR lol [00:14] DaemonFC 18:13, September 28, 2023 Daemonfc talk contribs 16,373 bytes 263 Distribution: Citation needed for at least a couple of years, yet nobody ever did. I checked Fink and there is no icecat package anywhere. So they've obviously dropped it if they had it at some point. Also, good luck trying to run a binary on a Mac for long if it's not being tended to constantly. undo [00:14] DaemonFC MinceR: ^ :) [00:15] DaemonFC 18:10, September 28, 2023 Daemonfc talk contribs 16,636 bytes 117 Distribution: Policing some WikiRot. The Android build in F-Droid has been neglected since 2020 and is full of holes. Upstream Firefox ESR doesn't even support Windows Vista anymore and will drop Windows 7 after the 115 series. The last binary build for Windows would be impossible to browse with due to age and is now full of security holes. undo [00:16] *oarion7 (~ryan@mfmwu5c33pkb2.irc) has joined #techrights [00:16] *agm` (~user@i45w5azn2fgpc.irc) has joined #techrights [00:17] *agm has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [00:18] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [00:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [00:24] DaemonFC 18:23, September 28, 2023 Daemonfc talk contribs 12,429 bytes 3,826 Remove the Version History section. They're not even making actual releases as binaries anymore, and most of these were blank anyway and wasting a TON of screen space in the article. Most of the pertinent information would be in the corresponding Firefox release. undo [00:24] DaemonFC Wikipedia is a huge mess. [00:24] DaemonFC Especially a lot of the Free Software articles. [00:24] *bleb has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:28] *bleb (~cm@user/bleb) has joined #techrights [00:29] *MinceR gives voice to agm` [00:30] DaemonFC curprev 18:29, September 28, 2023 Daemonfc talk contribs 12,339 bytes 67 Remove Windows, Mac, and Android. While it may still be possible to build for these platforms, I haven't seen any evidence that anyone is doing that, and I doubt many users of those systems would know where to begin. undo [00:30] DaemonFC curprev 18:26, September 28, 2023 Daemonfc talk contribs 12,406 bytes 23 Small cleanup. Since Firefox has been limited by Mozilla into only supporting WebExtensions, it is no longer possible to install full blown XUL applications. So IceCat is no longer an Internet Suite for the same reason Mozilla's software isn't. undo [00:33] DaemonFC I was never a fan of LibreJS. [00:33] DaemonFC It leaves some scripts running, if they're arbitrarily trivial. This almost always leaves the site horribly broken anyway. [00:37] DaemonFC "And now we have yet another unintended consequence: hacking groups are beginning to use the GDPR as a weapon to threaten private companies in order to get ransom money. You may have heard that a hacking group calling itself Ransomed.vc is claiming to have compromised all of Sony. We dont yet have proof that the hack is that widespread, but hacking groups generally both dont lie about that sort of thing or it ruins their business plan, and [00:37] DaemonFC Ransomed.vc has also claimed that if a buyer isnt found for Sonys data, it will simply release that data on September 28th. So, as to what they have, I guess well just have to wait and see." [00:37] DaemonFC LOL [00:38] DaemonFC "But what really caught my attention was the description of how this particular group was going about issuing threats to its victims in order to collect ransoms. And part of the groups reputation is that it compromises its victims and then hunts for GDPR violations, building ransom requests that are less consequential than what the GDPR violation fines would be." [00:38] DaemonFC That is funny. [00:53] lundy DaemonFCIt leaves some scripts running, if they're arbitrarily trivial. This almost always leaves the site horribly broken anyway. <- yeah plus [00:54] lundy a proper script blocker would let you whitelist and blacklist by default-- optionally. while i think librejs just trusts anything with a free license. [00:54] lundy imagine if youre package manager was like that "oh its free, ill just install it then" of course they wouldnt do that for the same reason its the wrong behaviour for librejs [00:55] lundy you should at least be advised once to enable whitelisting [00:56] lundy librejs was a cool idea, horrible implementation [00:57] TR News How to Install Code::Blocks on Ubuntu https://linuxstans.com/install-codeblocks-ubuntu/ [00:57] TR Bot How to Install Code::Blocks on Ubuntu - Linux Stans [00:57] DaemonFC Right, you can just make a malicious script "Free Software". [00:57] DaemonFC Then when LibreJS sees the license header, it runs it. [00:57] DaemonFC :D [00:58] *lundy imagines what the fsf would be like if they were at all in touch with actual use of software [00:58] TR News Fedora Community Blog: Kubernetes Support On Fedora Linux 37 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/kubernetes-support-on-fedora-linux-37/ [00:58] TR Bot Kubernetes Support On Fedora Linux 37 Fedora Community Blog [00:58] lundy im not saying they shouldnt put freedom first-- just that you have to leave the mountain top to know wtfs going on [00:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [00:59] lundy corporations do lots of r&d on real usage [00:59] lundy free software could do a little. ● Sep 29 [01:00] lundy and when people do no one cares about the information-- then they say "oh we could use more volunteers" [01:00] lundy no, you dont, thats the thing. you ignore and patronise them. [01:01] TR News LMDE 6 Faye' stable has been released for download https://www.neowin.net/news/lmde-6-faye-stable-has-been-released-for-download/ [01:01] TR Bot LMDE 6 Faye' stable has been released for download - Neowin [01:01] DaemonFC Sun Microsystems spent a lot of money doing usability tests. That resulted in the GNOME 2 HIG. [01:02] DaemonFC Which GNOME 3 threw out and didn't do any usability tests at all. [01:02] DaemonFC They just said use whatever we do. [01:02] lundy exactly [01:02] lundy you can tell gnome 2 was more usable [01:02] lundy funny how that works out [01:02] lundy only version of gnome i ever liked [01:02] MinceR 29 015450 <+lundy> imagine if youre package manager was like that "oh its free, ill just install it then" [01:02] lundy 1 was cool but hideous? [01:02] MinceR ah, the tFSF package manager [01:03] lundy 2 was the easiest to recommend desktop for newbies [01:03] DaemonFC Don't they have Guix or something? [01:03] DaemonFC I've never used that. [01:03] lundy 3 was... i dont know what it was [01:03] lundy the guix guys are kind of douchebags [01:03] TR News What new features are available in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.9 and 9.3 Beta? https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/what-new-features-are-available-red-hat-enterprise-linux-89-and-93-beta [01:03] DaemonFC Dependency handling is actually quite tricky. [01:03] TR Bot What new features are available in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.9 and 9.3 Beta? [01:03] lundy they dont care about stallman or about users [01:03] TR News Why It Became Essential to Split GNU/Linux Stories from the Rest https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Why_It_Became_Essential_to_Split_GNU_Linux_Stories_from_the_Res.shtml [01:03] TR Bot Techrights Why It Became Essential to Split GNU/Linux Stories from the Rest [01:03] MinceR they have GuixSD [01:03] lundy like you should care about at least one of those things [01:03] MinceR oh, you mean package manager [01:04] TR News Upgrade to LMDE 6 from LMDE 5 [Tutorial] https://www.debugpoint.com/upgrade-to-lmde-6/ [01:04] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://www.debugpoint.com/upgrade-to-lmde-6/ ) [01:04] MinceR Guix[SD] is somewhat saner about things than the tFSF's distro recommendations generally are [01:04] TR News Video: The Raspberry Pi 5 is here http://www.montanalinux.org/video-raspberry-pi-5-is-here.html [01:04] TR Bot The Raspberry Pi 5 is here | www.montanalinux.org [01:04] lundy DaemonFCDependency handling is actually quite tricky. <- i think if barry kauler can handle it and robert shingledecker can handle it, it cant be rocket science [01:04] lundy maybe they can make it tricky [01:04] DaemonFC I gave up on the whole GNOME mess when I eventually had to "trick it" into doing so many things I wanted it to do. [01:04] MinceR "sure, it has a massive instrument of taking control away from users installed by default, not practically uninstallable and running as PID 1 as root all the time, but that thing has a 'free' license, so it's A-OK!" [01:05] DaemonFC Including using Nemo as the file manager because they totally borked Nautilus. [01:05] lundy trick it: you mean code javascript to an interface only gnome uses? [01:05] TR News an aborted experiment with server swift https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/an-aborted-experiment-with-server-swift [01:05] TR Bot an aborted experiment with server swift [01:05] lundy "sure, it has a massive instrument of taking control away from users installed by default, not practically uninstallable and running as PID 1 as root all the time, but that thing has a 'free' license, so it's A-OK!" <- exactly this [01:05] lundy they really dont get it [01:05] TR News FOSS Weekly #23.39: Linux Shortcuts, LMDE 6, New Bazzite Distro and New Announcement https://itsfoss.com/newsletter/foss-weekly-23-39/ [01:05] TR Bot FOSS Weekly #23.39: Linux Shortcuts, LMDE 6, New Bazzite Distro and New Announcement [01:06] lundy and then people pay money to be told a bunch of useless nonsene [01:07] lundy about licenses on what amounts to just letting some corporation take over everything youve been doing yourself for years [01:07] psydruid one thing I ran into earlier this year is GNOME repeatedly resetting preferred applications for opening links in GNOME/GTK applications, even though I don't even use GNOME [01:07] lundy but they say it will be userfriendly-- oh hello, 1995 [01:07] DaemonFC Using Nemo as the file manager is something GNOME developers probably do while they make Nautilus worse. [01:07] DaemonFC Red Hat pays them to brick GNOME and make it stop doing something there was already code for. [01:07] psydruid it felt to me as if they were trying to copy what Microsoft was doing [01:07] MinceR i think gnome "developers" use either explorer or finder, actually [01:07] MinceR like jimmy zemlin [01:08] psydruid and who wants to deal with obnoxious people like that [01:08] lundy people who enjoy pain [01:08] schestowitz schestowitz: Layoff Tracker has 15,696 at Microsoft. [01:08] schestowitz it's higher [01:08] schestowitz a lot higher [01:08] MinceR people who worship MICROS~1 and crApple [01:08] schestowitz maybe 30k [01:09] lundy people who think the reasonable way to eject media is to drag it into the trash icon [01:09] MinceR :> [01:09] MinceR "but it's INTUITIVE!" [01:09] lundy and the way to replace a battery is to have someone take your laptop apart and put the drive in a new one and charge you loads of money for the favour [01:09] schestowitz "buy a new mac" [01:09] *oarion7 (~ryan@mfmwu5c33pkb2.irc) has joined #techrights [01:09] schestowitz "old one in the bin" [01:09] DaemonFC Yes, it's like a real life metaphor. Whenever I get done playing a CD in my car I eject it straight into a trashcan. [01:10] DaemonFC Apple thinks of everything. [01:10] lundy thanks johnny ive! it made NO SENSE until now [01:10] lundy johnny ive-- is alive! [01:10] MinceR 29 020941 <+lundy> and the way to replace a battery is to have someone take your laptop apart and put the drive in a new one and charge you loads of money for the favour [01:10] schestowitz press start [01:10] schestowitz when you want to SHUT DOWN [01:10] schestowitz makes sense [01:10] MinceR no, the way to replace a battery in your laptop is to toss it in the bin and buy a shiny new laptop [01:10] MinceR obviously [01:10] TR News 4 Incredibly Simple Ways to Customize Budgie Desktop in Linux https://itsfoss.com/budgie-customization/ [01:10] TR Bot 4 Simple Ways to Customize Budgie Desktop in Linux [01:10] MinceR and the way to replace a battery in your phone is to toss it in the bin and buy a shiny new phone [01:11] MinceR see, apple makes it simple [01:11] TR News New ARIES Embedded Products Built on Renesas RZ/G2L Microprocessors https://linuxgizmos.com/new-aries-embedded-products-built-on-renesas-rz-g2l-microprocessors/ [01:11] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/new-aries-embedded-products-built-on-renesas-rz-g2l-microprocessors/ ) [01:11] MinceR battery replacement, upgrade, fixing breakages -- all the same process. [01:11] MinceR also the same process for covering this planet in trash. [01:12] lundy thats why they keep making everything smaller [01:12] lundy it makes them feel better about carpeting the world with ishit [01:12] TR News Alan Pope shilling Microsoft's proprietary software and NSA-controlled compiler you neither can see nor audit https://popey.com/blog/2023/09/publishing-hugo-site-via-github-actions/ [01:12] TR Bot Publishing Hugo site via GitHub Actions - Alan Pope's blog [01:13] TR News Raspberry Pi 5 Announced for End of October, Here Are the Specs https://9to5linux.com/raspberry-pi-5-announced-for-end-of-october-here-are-the-specs [01:13] TR Bot Pi 5 Announced for End of October, Here Are the Specs - 9to5Linux [01:13] lundy Publishing Hugo site via GitHub Actions <- or instead of dragging media to the trash bin, you can bring the trash bin to the media [01:13] TR News Techrights Links 28/09/2023: Preparing Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.9 and 9.3 Beta http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Links_28_09_2023_Preparing_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_8_9_and_9_3.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Links_28_09_2023_Preparing_Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_8_9_and_9_3.gmi [01:13] TR Bot Techrights Links 28/09/2023: Preparing Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8.9 and 9.3 Beta [01:13] TR News Meet Canonical at MLOps World 2023 https://ubuntu.com//blog/mlops-world-2023 [01:13] TR Bot Canonical at MLOps World 2023 | Ubuntu [01:14] TR News Slimbook Titan, long-term usage report 1 https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/slimbook-titan-report-1.html [01:14] TR Bot Slimbook Titan, long-term usage report 1 [01:14] TR News
  • My work in KDE for September 2023

    I might be busy early next month, so I’m posting this a few days early so I get it out of the way! I managed to do a lot of big stuff this month, and pretty happy with my pace. I still have way too many open MRs though, I really need to get that sorted.

    [01:14] TR Bot / My work in KDE for September 2023 [01:15] TR News Google Rushes to Patch New Zero-Day Exploited by Spyware Vendor https://www.securityweek.com/google-rushes-to-patch-new-zero-day-exploited-by-spyware-vendor/ [01:15] TR Bot Rushes to Patch New Zero-Day Exploited by Spyware Vendor - SecurityWeek [01:15] eidolon lundy, they like the _illusion_ of simplicity and minimalism. it makes consumers feel smart about their lifestyle choices. [01:16] lundy yeah [01:16] TR News March to Vilnius and sleeping in tents: Lithuanian teachers brace for month-long strike https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2086847/march-to-vilnius-and-sleeping-in-tents-lithuanian-teachers-brace-for-month-long-strike [01:16] TR Bot March to Vilnius and sleeping in tents: Lithuanian teachers brace for month-long strike - LRT [01:16] eidolon it doesnt matter if you scratch the surface and its an abominable shitmess. [01:16] TR News UAW to Add Strike Targets Against Big Three US Automakers https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/UAW-to-Add-Strike-Targets-Against-Big-Three-US-Automakers-20230928-0002.html [01:16] TR Bot UAW to Add Strike Targets Against Big Three US Automakers | News | teleSUR English [01:16] lundy in the 80s with the apple advertising, people were proud of being stupid [01:16] lundy it was upper-class twit syndrom [01:17] MinceR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ [01:17] TR Bot https://inv.zzls.xyz/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ [01:17] TR Bot inv.zzls.xyz | "Weird Al" Yankovic - Dare To Be Stupid (Official HD Video) - Invidious [01:17] *MinceR gives voice to oarion7 [01:17] TR News privacyinternational on abortions http://privacyinternational.org/long-read/5145/international-safe-abortion-day-2023 [01:17] lundy "oh, you actually LEARN about computers? silly fool, i pay extra so i dont need to learn anything!" [01:17] TR Bot International Safe Abortion Day 2023 | Privacy International [01:17] TR News Privacy watchdog recommends court approval for FBI searches of spy data https://cyberscoop.com/pclob-section-702-court-approval/ [01:17] TR Bot watchdog recommends court approval for FBI searches of spy data | CyberScoop [01:17] lundy "im so much smarter, YOU obviously dont know WHAT to buy!" [01:17] TR News Raspberry Pi 5 and OSMC support changes https://osmc.tv/2023/09/raspberry-pi-5-and-osmc-support-changes/ [01:17] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 and OSMC support changes - OSMC [01:17] lundy yeah stupid me, learning about tools of the future while you save time and waste money. gosh im humbled before your genius. [01:18] lundy and after hearing this crap for a decade it soured me on apple a bit [01:18] TR News Watchdog Urges Extending Surveillance Law With New Limits https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/28/us/watchdog-surveillance-law-extension.html [01:18] TR Bot Watchdog Urges Extending Surveillance Law With New Limits - The New York Times [01:18] TR News Automate your Git host key verification setup in Jenkins https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2023/09/28/automate-your-git-host-key-verification-setup-jenkins [01:18] TR Bot Automate your Git host key verification setup in Jenkins | Red Hat Developer [01:19] lundy sometimes apple comes really close to making a good product but they always find some way to screw it up and make users dumber [01:19] lundy its the learned-behaviour kind of dumb too. like you start out as a competent IT person and come out a softie. [01:19] TR News 14: Competent Spammers https://mwl.io/archives/23131 [01:19] TR Bot 14: Competent Spammers Michael W Lucas [01:19] lundy as a competent IT person <- im not saying there are loads of them [01:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [01:20] lundy im pretty sure they existed at one point at least [01:20] TR News is: an inspector for your environment https://www.olafalders.com/2023/09/28/is-an-inspector-for-your-environment/ [01:20] TR Bot an inspector for your environment - olafalders.com [01:20] TR News Pitfalls of lambda capture initialization https://www.arnorehn.de/blog/2023/09/27/pitfalls-of-lambda-capture-initialization/ [01:20] TR Bot Pitfalls of lambda capture initialization | arno's blog [01:21] TR News Raspberry Pi 5 SBC launched with 2.4 GHz Broadcom BCM2712 quad-core Cortex-A76 SoC https://www.cnx-software.com/2023/09/28/raspberry-pi-5-sbc-broadcom-bcm2712-quad-core-cortex-a76-soc/ [01:21] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 SBC launched with 2.4 GHz Broadcom BCM2712 quad-core Cortex-A76 SoC - CNX Software [01:21] lundy apple spent decades teaching people to forego actual skills for consumer "expertise" which amounted to little more than "spend more and look down on everyone else" [01:21] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [01:22] TR News Punishing people who use cash, i.e. people who stick to human rights https://eng.lsm.lv/article/economy/banks/28.09.2023-small-denomination-coins-may-soon-be-on-the-way-out.a525736/ [01:22] TR Bot Small-denomination coins may soon be on the way out / Article [01:23] TR News JUVE took bribes to keep promoting illegal agenda (UPC) and it's still publishing a lot of spam, also disguised as ranking. The media is dying because it's becoming webspam and it actively helps lawbreakers. https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/video-juve-patents-netherlands-ranking-2023/ [01:23] TR Bot Video: JUVE Patent's Netherlands ranking 2023 - JUVE Patent [01:23] lundy Withdrawal of low-denomination coins - Wikipedia Reasons This withdrawal may be due to the high cost of production, since the coin may be worth less than its cost of production. For example, when Canada phased out its penny in 2012, its production cost was 1.6 cents per penny. [01:24] TR News More spam disguised as "ratings". Some of these firms bribe JUVE for the positions. https://www.juve-patent.com/people-and-business/top-filing-and-litigation-firms-in-the-netherlands-2023/ [01:24] TR Bot Rankings Netherlands 2023 Archives - JUVE Patent [01:24] lundy i didnt think canada phased out pennies, i just thought the canadian pennies all found their way to the states [01:25] TR News We Need to Liberate the Client Side and Userspace Too https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/We_Need_to_Liberate_the_Client_Side_and_Userspace_Too.shtml [01:25] TR Bot Techrights We Need to Liberate the Client Side and Userspace Too [01:25] TR News Microsoft is Faking Its Financial Performance, Buying Companies Helps Perpetuate the Big Lies (or Pass the Debt Around) https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Microsoft_is_Faking_Its_Financial_Performance_Buying_Companies_.shtml [01:25] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft is Faking Its Financial Performance, Buying Companies Helps Perpetuate the Big Lies (or Pass the Debt Around) [01:25] TR News Techrights Will Tell the Story (Until Next Year!) of How Since 2022 It Has Been Under a Coordinated Attack by a Horde of Vandals and Nutcases https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Techrights_Will_Tell_the_Story_Until_Next_Year_of_How_Since_202.shtml [01:25] TR Bot Techrights Techrights Will Tell the Story (Until Next Year!) of How Since 2022 It Has Been Under a Coordinated Attack by a Horde of Vandals and Nutcases [01:25] TR News Losses and Gains in an Age of Oligarchy - A Techrights Perspective https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Losses_and_Gains_in_an_Age_of_Oligarchy_A_Techrights_Perspectiv.shtml [01:25] TR Bot Techrights Losses and Gains in an Age of Oligarchy - A Techrights Perspective [01:25] TR News Google (and the Likes Of It) Will Cause Catastrophic Information Loss Rather Than Organise the World's Information https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/Google_and_the_Likes_Of_It_Will_Cause_Catastrophic_Information_.shtml [01:25] TR Bot Techrights Google (and the Likes Of It) Will Cause Catastrophic Information Loss Rather Than Organise the World's Information [01:26] TR News GNOME Console Wont Support Color Palettes or Profiles; Will Support Esperanto https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/28/GNOME_Console_Won_t_Support_Color_Palettes_or_Profiles_Will_Sup.shtml [01:26] TR Bot Techrights GNOME Console Wont Support Color Palettes or Profiles; Will Support Esperanto [01:27] TR News IPv4 Addresses in Little Endian Decimal Format, (Thu, Sep 28th) https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/30256 [01:27] TR Bot IPv4 Addresses in Little Endian Decimal Format - SANS Internet Storm Center [01:28] TR News Precedential No. 28: TTABlog Test - Is WEALE Primarily Merely a Surname for Body Care Products? http://thettablog.blogspot.com/2023/09/precedential-no-28-ttablog-test-is.html [01:28] TR Bot The TTABlog: Precedential No. 28: TTABlog Test - Is WEALE Primarily Merely a Surname for Body Care Products? [01:29] TR News Bits from Debian: New Debian Developers and Maintainers (July and August 2023) https://bits.debian.org/2023/09/new-developers-2023-08.html [01:29] TR Bot New Debian Developers and Maintainers (July and August 2023) - Bits from Debian [01:29] TR News https://planet.kde.org/index.xml Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:49:50 +0000 Qt Creator 11.0.3 released [01:30] TR News Raspberry Pi Weekly #447 - Introducing Raspberry Pi 5 https://app.getwemail.io/campaigns/473c770c-3488-48d3-a91d-90d43f243ea5?email_id=0c67df3f-ebf7-4c40-bf31-572cd8028860 [01:30] TR Bot weMail [01:30] TR News Raspberry Pi 5 Live Blog: Whole New Board, Whole New Ecosystem https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/raspberry-pi-5-launch [01:30] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 Live Blog: Whole New Board, Whole New Ecosystem | Tom's Hardware [01:30] TR News Raspberry Pi 5 Review: A New Standard for Makers https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-5 [01:30] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 Review: A New Standard for Makers | Tom's Hardware [01:30] eidolon speakin' of Dulles https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/27/sam-curry-chilling-effect-phone-search-airport/ [01:30] TR Bot researcher warns of chilling effect after feds search phone at airport | TechCrunch [01:31] TR News Cisco Warns of IOS Software Zero-Day Exploitation Attempts https://www.securityweek.com/cisco-warns-of-ios-software-zero-day-exploitation-attempts/ [01:31] TR Bot Warns of IOS Software Zero-Day Exploitation Attempts - SecurityWeek [01:31] TR News US and Japan warns that Chinese-linked hacking group is targeting routers https://siliconangle.com/2023/09/27/us-japan-warns-chinese-linked-hacking-group-targeting-routers/ [01:31] TR Bot and Japan warns that Chinese-linked hacking group is targeting routers - SiliconANGLE [01:31] MinceR 29 023100 <+techrights-news> Cisco Warns of IOS Software Zero-Day Exploitation Attempts https://www.securityweek.com/cisco-warns-of-ios-software-zero-day-exploitation-attempts/ [01:32] MinceR they should try suing the exploiters [01:32] MinceR that's the only thing fiasco systems is capable of [01:32] TR News Qt 6.5.3 Released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-6.5.3-released [01:32] TR Bot Qt 6.5.3 Released [01:32] MinceR oh, and also buying jabber, inc. and running it into the ground [01:32] TR News US federal government and 17 states launch antitrust lawsuit against Amazon https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/09/us-federal-government-and-17-states-launch-antitrust-lawsuit-against-amazon/ [01:32] TR Bot US federal government and 17 states launch antitrust lawsuit against Amazon - JURIST - News [01:34] lundy oh they bought jabber? [01:34] TR News US, Japan authorities warn of China-linked hacking group BlackTech https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/us-japan-authorities-warn-of-china-linked-hacking-group-blacktech [01:34] TR Bot US, Japan authorities warn of China-linked hacking group BlackTech | The Straits Times [01:34] TR News Qt Creator 11.0.3 released https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-creator-11.0.3-released [01:34] TR Bot Qt Creator 11.0.3 released [01:34] lundy probably looking to sell more data to china so they could disappe- i mean educate them [01:34] schestowitz DaemonFC: guess whose microblog is still broken [01:38] DaemonFC :) [01:38] DaemonFC Did EndlessOShole abandon him? [01:39] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techrights [01:40] lundy flatpak is very similar to how macos works [01:40] lundy youre root. every file that means anything except your configs are in an image you have to mount to change [01:41] lundy then on top of that they put loads and loads of extra locks, like daemonfcs door to keep users from medding with things they ought not meddle with [01:41] KindOne yall offer custom vhosts/spoofs? [01:42] lundy because youre too stupid to have control of your own setup a root [01:43] TR News No, they just made a press release about it 3 months late; and the only output is never coming back https://opensourcewatch.beehiiv.com/p/invaluable-opensourcecom-site-reborn-opensourcenet https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/22/OpenSource_com_is_Not_Coming_Back.shtml [01:43] TR Bot The invaluable opensource.com site is reborn as opensource.net [01:43] TR Bot Tux Machines OpenSource.com is Not Coming Back [01:43] lundy plus its bloated so its exactly how macos works :) [01:43] lundy the only thing thats more like this is snap which like macos is tied directly to apple, i mean canonical [01:46] TR News How to Add a Directory to Your $PATH in Linux https://www.howtogeek.com/658904/how-to-add-a-directory-to-your-path-in-linux/ [01:46] TR Bot How to Add a Directory to Your $PATH in Linux [01:46] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [01:46] MinceR 29 023411 <+lundy> oh they bought jabber? [01:46] TR News How to Exit the Vi or Vim Editor https://www.howtogeek.com/411210/how-to-exit-the-vi-or-vim-editor/ [01:46] TR Bot How to Exit the Vi or Vim Editor [01:46] MinceR yeah, and had them develop webex connect, apparently [01:46] MinceR which is not compatible with xmpp [01:46] MinceR but is at least a massive pile of shit [01:46] TR News How to Zip or Unzip Files From the Linux Terminal https://www.howtogeek.com/414082/how-to-zip-or-unzip-files-from-the-linux-terminal/ [01:46] TR Bot How to Zip or Unzip Files From the Linux Terminal [01:48] lundy beautiful [01:49] TR News Wow, Sandra's blog has been assassinated (a week ago) by IDG https://www.networkworld.com/uk/blog/unix-as-a-second-language/ [01:49] TR Bot ( status 404 @ https://www.networkworld.com/uk/blog/unix-as-a-second-language/ ) [01:52] TR News "CI/CD pipeline vendor Harness faces two challenges as it launches Gitness" https://www.techtarget.com/searchsoftwarequality/news/366552837/New-Git-repository-faces-corporate-open-source-doubts [01:52] TR Bot Git repository faces corporate open source doubts | TechTarget [01:54] TR News Adrian Bridgwater became stenographer of 'Linux' Foundation, republishing whatever they tell him to https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/Cross-architecture-unification-Linux-Foundation-forms-Unified-Acceleration-UXL-Foundation https://www.computerweekly.com/blog/Open-Source-Insider/Camara-The-Linux-Foundation-telco-API-project [01:54] TR Bot Cross-architecture unification: Linux Foundation forms Unified Acceleration (UXL)Foundation [01:54] TR Bot Camara: The Linux Foundation telco API project [01:57] TR News How to Install Asahi Linux on Your Apple Silicon Mac https://www.makeuseof.com/how-to-install-asahi-linux-on-mac/ [01:57] TR Bot How to Install Asahi Linux on Your Apple Silicon Mac [01:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [01:59] TR News Best Linux Distros for Old PCs [Podcast] https://www.makeuseof.com/iphone-12-pulled-in-france-usb-cables-explained-and-the-best-linux-distros-for-old-pcs/ [01:59] TR Bot France Pulls iPhone 12, USB Cables Explained, and the Best Linux Distros for Old PCs [Podcast] [01:59] TR News How to Install and Use AnyDesk on Linux https://www.makeuseof.com/install-and-use-anydesk-on-linux/ ● Sep 29 [02:00] TR Bot How to Install and Use AnyDesk on Linux [02:03] TR News How to Play Game Boy Games in Your Linux Terminal https://www.makeuseof.com/play-game-boy-games-in-linux-terminal/ [02:03] TR Bot How to Play Game Boy Games in Your Linux Terminal [02:07] TR News (NEW): Chainguard's Wolfi: Revolutionizing Containerized Workloads with Rapid Updates and Robust Security http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Chainguard_s_Wolfi_Revolutionizing_Containerized_Workloads_with.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Chainguard_s_Wolfi_Revolutionizing_Containerized_Workloads_with.gmi [02:07] TR Bot Tux Machines Chainguard's Wolfi: Revolutionizing Containerized Workloads with Rapid Updates and Robust Security [02:07] TR News (NEW): The 5 Best Linux YouTube Channels Every Linux User Should Follow http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/The_5_Best_Linux_YouTube_Channels_Every_Linux_User_Should_Follo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/The_5_Best_Linux_YouTube_Channels_Every_Linux_User_Should_Follo.gmi [02:07] TR Bot Tux Machines The 5 Best Linux YouTube Channels Every Linux User Should Follow [02:07] TR News (NEW): OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD: What Is the Difference, Which Is Best? http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/OpenBSD_vs_FreeBSD_What_Is_the_Difference_Which_Is_Best.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/OpenBSD_vs_FreeBSD_What_Is_the_Difference_Which_Is_Best.gmi [02:07] TR Bot Tux Machines OpenBSD vs. FreeBSD: What Is the Difference, Which Is Best? [02:07] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/today_s_howtos.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/today_s_howtos.gmi [02:07] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [02:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [02:25] DaemonFC [9/28/23 7:41 pm] then on top of that they put loads and loads of extra locks, like daemonfcs door to keep users from medding with things they ought not meddle with [02:25] DaemonFC That's funny. I haven't mentioned all the locks on my front door in at least a year. [02:25] lundy not so [02:25] DaemonFC I don't recall you being here last year. [02:25] lundy you literally mentioned it the other day [02:25] lundy about sleepwalking [02:25] DaemonFC Did I? [02:25] DaemonFC Oh that's right. [02:25] DaemonFC Sleepwalking and crime. [02:26] DaemonFC Good reason for lots of locks. [02:26] DaemonFC lol [02:26] lundy yeah its not a stupid idea given that [02:26] lundy but its a dumb way to package software [02:26] lundy unless you mess with root-permission binaries in your sleep [02:26] DaemonFC Dumb is sort of what Red Hat does best. [02:27] lundy theyre geniuses at dumb [02:27] DaemonFC Flatpak is basically meant for proprietary software. [02:27] DaemonFC The only reason it has any Free Software is because they want to make it impossible to separate for distributions that use them. [02:27] lundy yeah "let us handling packaging for you" [02:28] lundy "then we can package whatever we want" [02:29] DaemonFC I've been meaning to try the Yuzu appimage and see if it works better than the flatpak. [02:29] lundy no one thinks appimage works better than flatpak [02:30] lundy they all do what theyre designed to do [02:30] DaemonFC If your distribution uses Flatpaks you may as well just not have a distribution. [02:30] lundy appimage lets you make read-only packages of software [02:30] lundy flatpak brings in systemd [02:30] DaemonFC There's already an OS where you're supposed to layer flatpaks. [02:30] lundy and snap forces you to rely on canonical [02:30] DaemonFC Fedora Silverblue. [02:30] lundy theyre all working according to design [02:31] DaemonFC "Fedora Flatpaks" doesn't make much sense. [02:31] lundy appimage doesnt do what redhat or canonical want, which is to make users do what they want [02:31] DaemonFC Then you end up with two remotes and you can end up with the same platform multiple times. [02:31] lundy canonical wants your applications to depend on canonical, they dont care who controls your os [02:31] DaemonFC Unless they're going to clone Flathub, why bother? [02:32] lundy redhat want your os to depend on canonical, they dont care who controls your applications [02:32] DaemonFC This "containerized app" thing has turned into a real pigfuck already and it'll only get worse. [02:32] lundy redhat want your os to depend on canonical <- to depend on redhat rather [02:33] lundy it wasnt made for users, it was made for people pushing unwanted software on people [02:33] lundy simple package managers were made for users [02:34] lundy guix is made for the people who make guix, theyve already got people complaining about bringing stuff in that users (of free software) dont want [02:34] lundy guix people do not care about software freedom, they say they do [02:35] lundy the idea of guix isnt terrible [02:35] DaemonFC I don't have many flatpaks. [02:35] DaemonFC It's basically just video game stuff. [02:36] lundy it will be used the same way snap and flatpak are [02:36] DaemonFC I don't actually like the format, it's just that Debian isn't going to bump yuzu for years and I want the new patches now. [02:36] lundy yeah they want to compete with steam by putting more non-free stuff in packages [02:36] lundy ive never even heard of yuzu [02:36] lundy is it a game or a package thing [02:37] DaemonFC A Nintendo Switch emulator. [02:38] DaemonFC I've been playing through Red Dead Redemption on it. [02:38] DaemonFC Listening to Hotel California in DSD right now. [02:38] DaemonFC SACD ripped and compressed with WavPack DSD [02:38] DaemonFC :D [02:38] XRevan86 lundy: nonguix exists. [02:39] lundy but whats the intent of it [02:39] lundy don henley was like a mormon boy moving out to california and wonder wth was going on [02:39] XRevan86 lundy: Bringing stuff in that users (of free software) don't want. [02:40] lundy right but which is worse, nonguix or guix guix [02:40] XRevan86 If your complaint is about that Guix is too strict, then supplement it with nonguix, no? [02:41] lundy other way around [02:41] lundy im saying that guix is going to bring in nonfree stuff like flatpak and snap [02:41] XRevan86 Ah. [02:41] lundy the people putting it together arent as sympathetic as they seem and have already been lectured about it [02:41] lundy they do not care [02:42] lundy theyre doing their own thing and damn the man telling them not to sell out to the man [02:42] lundy if they were sincere it wouldnt be so bad [02:42] lundy i have no doubt some of them mean what they say-- they arent in charge but there you have it [02:43] lundy its a grift [02:43] lundy theyre building systemd for packages (though literally thats flatpak) as part of gnu [02:43] lundy but its scheme or whatevery they use so people think its a package manager for emacs [02:44] lundy what version of lisp/scheme do they like? [02:44] lundy guile [02:45] lundy > Guile is an extension language platform Guile contains an efficient compiler and virtual machine. It can be used out of the box to write programs in Scheme https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/ [02:45] TR Bot GNU's programming and extension language GNU Guile [02:48] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-280923.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-280923.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-280923.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-280923.txt [02:48] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 28, 2023 [02:49] TR News Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-280923.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-280923.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-280923.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-280923.txt [02:49] TR Bot IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 28, 2023 [02:49] lundy the idea of making things including packaging that isnt distro-specific is great by itself [02:50] lundy the fact that at the same time theyre all becoming monoliths that you pretty much need to have makes the whole idea of free software a joke [02:50] TR News Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-280923.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-280923.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-280923.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-280923.txt [02:50] TR Bot IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 28, 2023 [02:50] lundy sure as long as you can fork systemd AND linux AND guix AND whatever other behemoths (gnome) then you know [02:51] lundy then you can do what you want [02:51] lundy you used to be able to mix and match everything. that was nice. [02:51] lundy everyone seems bent on that going away. [02:51] TR News Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-280923.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-280923.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-280923.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-280923.txt [02:51] TR Bot IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, September 28, 2023 [02:51] lundy except users but to hell with those guys [02:52] TR News Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2023-09-28.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2023-09-28.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) [02:52] TR Bot NO TITLE [02:52] DaemonFC Pet Shop Boys SACD why not? [02:52] lundy how do you get all this on sacd is it like in bulk from japan? [02:53] lundy some japanese streaming platform? [02:55] DaemonFC You can import them from Japan. [02:55] lundy but it has to be cheaper otherwise... why sacd [02:55] lundy whats the advantage of the more obscure format [02:55] lundy higher quality? [02:55] DaemonFC Yeah. [02:55] lundy oh ok [02:56] DaemonFC These definitely sound better than the CDs. [02:58] DaemonFC It's pretty clear from messing around with this for the last few days that all some of these labels to to make CDs is convert from delta-sigma modulation. [02:58] DaemonFC They don't seem to care about CDs much anymore. [02:58] lundy i wonder if theyll put music on dvd and cancel cd altogether [02:58] DaemonFC There is a DVD-A format. [02:58] lundy sounds insane but i dont personally know anyone playing a cd [02:59] DaemonFC It's not as popular as SACD even. [02:59] DaemonFC They ruined each other stateside. [02:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [02:59] lundy states ruined dat also [02:59] DaemonFC They started a format war around the same time as the iTunes Store got popular. [02:59] lundy mostly because sony is good at doing that with anything newer than analogue cassette ● Sep 29 [03:00] DaemonFC SACD royalties are only 10 cents per disc sold to Sony/Philips. [03:00] DaemonFC The DVD Forum was started because they didn't want to pay SACD licensing fees. Then once it was standardized, they charged forty cents a disc royalties! [03:00] DaemonFC DVD-A [03:01] DaemonFC DVD-A is usually stored in a DTS format. [03:02] DaemonFC "DVD-Audio has been described as "extinct" by 2007." :) [03:02] DaemonFC Unfortunately, the Talking Heads Brick was released on DVD-A. [03:02] IPFS Gemini requests since start of month: 566017 total Total number of pages in capsule: 48626 Active: active (running) since Wed 2023-09-20 14:56:51 BST; 1 weeks 1 days ago [03:02] DaemonFC So I had to figure out a way to work with this. [03:03] lundy they also named it dvda at the same time as this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park#Music [03:03] TR Bot South Park - Wikipedia [03:03] IPFS IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. [03:03] lundy even the wp article says "DVDA" redirects here. For the band, see South Park Music. [03:03] eidolon https://www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/ [03:03] TR Bot Music Revenue Database - RIAA [03:04] eidolon CDs were making a small resurgence [03:04] IPFS New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. [03:05] eidolon cassettes have their place also. a lot of new ones released in limited runs on bandcamp. [03:05] eidolon for the physical copy, collectibility, and teh sound. [03:06] lundy cassettes survive a lot of abuse that cds dont [03:06] DaemonFC I like the delta-sigma modulation format of SACD better myself. [03:06] lundy except they dont like heat [03:06] lundy or big magnets [03:06] eidolon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=cuCrHYoYhYk [03:06] TR Bot CoastalDives - Splitter - Invidious [03:06] lundy or moisture-- but in terms of throwing them around your car [03:07] lundy or dropping them on the floor [03:08] DaemonFC To represent as much data as DSD64 in PCM you need about 2.5x as many bits of data. [03:08] *agm` has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [03:09] DaemonFC So you get 10 times as much data packed into only 4 times as many bits as 16/44.1 PCM [03:09] DaemonFC And then you WavPack -hm and it's only about twice as many bits to store ten times as much audio data. [03:09] DaemonFC They're huge, but WavPack at least makes them manageable, and they absolutely blow the CD away. [03:10] DaemonFC Ironically, you could almost drag the Wavpack DSD album onto a data format CD by the time the compressor is done with them. :D [03:11] DaemonFC If you really push the red book limits, you might fit it all. [03:11] DaemonFC I think the largest capacity CDs are 850 MB now. [03:12] DaemonFC Some albums of DSD are about that much after you use Wavpack High compression. [03:13] DaemonFC There's no actual need to store an MD5sum of the entire WavPack DSD file but it's a good idea to. [03:13] DaemonFC The individual chunks inside the file are checksummed internally. [03:13] TR News (NEW): Security Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Security_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Security_Leftovers.gmi [03:13] TR Bot Tux Machines Security Leftovers [03:13] TR News (NEW): Our Prediction Was Correct: OpenSource.com Not Coming Back, OpenSource.net Promotes Microsoft Agenda (Openwashing and GPL Violations) http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Our_Prediction_Was_Correct_OpenSource_com_Not_Coming_Back_OpenS.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Our_Prediction_Was_Correct_OpenSource_com_Not_Coming_Back_Op [03:13] TR Bot Tux Machines Our Prediction Was Correct: OpenSource.com Not Coming Back, OpenSource.net Promotes Microsoft Agenda (Openwashing and GPL Violations) [03:13] lundy nice [03:13] TR News (NEW): IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 28, 2023 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/irc-log-280923.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/irc-log-280923.gmi [03:13] TR Bot Tux Machines IRC Logs Restored [03:13] TR News (NEW): Some Good News for Debian GNU/Linux http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Some_Good_News_for_Debian_GNU_Linux.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Some_Good_News_for_Debian_GNU_Linux.gmi [03:13] TR Bot Tux Machines Some Good News for Debian GNU/Linux [03:13] DaemonFC But adding an MD5sum of the total audio data tells you at a glance if two files are absolutely identical or if any part of the file has changed. [03:14] TR News Techrights IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 28, 2023 http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/irc-log-280923.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/irc-log-280923.gmi [03:14] TR Bot Techrights IRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 28, 2023 [03:14] TR News Techrights Links 28/09/2023: Openwashing and Patent Spam as 'News' http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Links_28_09_2023_Openwashing_and_Patent_Spam_as_News.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Links_28_09_2023_Openwashing_and_Patent_Spam_as_News.gmi [03:14] TR Bot Techrights Links 28/09/2023: Openwashing and Patent Spam as 'News' [03:14] TR News Techrights The Debian Project Leader said the main thing Debian lacked was more contributors http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/The_Debian_Project_Leader_said_the_main_thing_Debian_lacked_was.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/The_Debian_Project_Leader_said_the_main_thing_Debian_lacked_was.gmi [03:14] TR Bot Techrights The Debian Project Leader said the main thing Debian lacked was more contributors [03:15] DaemonFC 1.9 GiB for ISO of Pet Shop Boys - Actually..... 1.9 GiB as DSF too.... WavPack High DSD mode is 1 GiB. [03:17] TR News Why glibc's fstat() is slow https://lwn.net/Articles/944214/ [03:17] TR Bot glibc's fstat() is slow [LWN.net] [03:17] DaemonFC https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/133317/Pink_Floyd-The_Dark_Side_Of_The_Moon-Hybrid_Multichannel_SACD [03:17] TR Bot Pink Floyd-The Dark Side Of The Moon-Hybrid Multichannel SACD|Acoustic Sounds [03:17] DaemonFC I'm moving to this one in a bit. [03:17] TR News Moving physical pages from user space https://lwn.net/Articles/944115/ [03:17] TR Bot physical pages from user space [LWN.net] [03:18] *eidolon wonders who was chosen to wail on The Great Gig in the Sky for the DSotM revision. [03:19] DaemonFC Another great thing is they don't put shit music on audiophile labels. [03:19] eidolon I heard 'Money', and he is just doing the late model Leonard Cohen thing. [03:19] DaemonFC Who is going to spend $40-50 per disc to listen to most of this stuff they put out now? [03:20] DaemonFC SACD is the record you always wanted but couldn't have until now. [03:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [03:20] TR News The bogus CVE problem https://lwn.net/Articles/944209/ [03:20] TR Bot bogus CVE problem [LWN.net] [03:21] TR News Arduino: open source for microcontroller boards https://lwn.net/Articles/944038/ [03:21] TR Bot open source for microcontroller boards [LWN.net] [03:22] DaemonFC Listening on my MDR-7506 headphones. You can just make out every little detail. [03:23] TR News Ubuntu and Fedora clash in beta race, but who wears GNOME better? https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/27/beta_ubuntu_fedora/ [03:23] TR Bot Beta versions for Ubuntu 23.10 and Fedora 39 are here The Register [03:24] TR News Canonical continues to evolve in cloud market https://www.techtarget.com/searchcloudcomputing/opinion/Canonical-continues-to-evolve-in-cloud-market [03:24] TR Bot continues to evolve in cloud market | TechTarget [03:24] DaemonFC MP3 always drove me nuts with the collapse of the stereo image. [03:25] DaemonFC A lot of things really bugged me about it, honestly. [03:25] lundy what about flac [03:25] DaemonFC Flac can only handle PCM and the compression routines are less efficient than WavPack. [03:25] DaemonFC I now have WavPack PCM and WavPack DSD on my system. [03:26] DaemonFC Conversion from DSD is not lossless. So you're converting it to PCM as a lossy step them putting it in FLAC. [03:26] DaemonFC Unless you're storing it in an insane sampling rate that's going to end up costing you 400-500 MB per FLAC -8, you're not going to store it in a way that approximates the source. [03:26] lundy ew [03:27] lundy i thought it was just digital and lossless like flac promises [03:27] DaemonFC WavPack High DSD is 60-120 MB per DSD file. [03:27] lundy "lossless but also it sucks more" didnt sound like what flac was offering [03:27] TR News Complete nonsense. It is a front group for companies. And it misuses the word "Linux". https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/28/kubecon_shanghai/ [03:27] TR Bot Linux Foundation's faux payroll outsizes Microsoft R&D The Register [03:27] DaemonFC Well, it is a digital format and it is "lossless" in the sense that there will be no loss from a PCM source. [03:28] DaemonFC If you're dealing with DSD, FLAC is unsuitable. [03:28] lundy i think ive done a flac conversion once, kinda rich for my taste [03:28] lundy good idea though [03:28] lundy in the sense that there will be no loss from a PCM source. <- oh ok [03:28] lundy but from dsd, right [03:28] TR News Proprietary https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2023/09/28/2751420/0/en/LambdaTest-Announces-Linux-OS-Support-for-Enhanced-Web-Automation-Testing.html [03:28] TR Bot LambdaTest Announces Linux OS Support for Enhanced Web [03:29] *oarion7 has quit (Quit: Running IRC on a charmed medieval abacus.) [03:29] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [03:29] DaemonFC If you're doing DSD and want compression, you can do two things. 1. You can use generalized file compression or 2. You can use WavPack's native DSD support and get a much better compression rate, tagging, and playback without unpacking an archive. [03:29] DaemonFC Or you can do a lossy step into PCM and then store it in FLAC. [03:30] DaemonFC There's no reason why DSD mode couldn't be added to FLAC. They just aren't going to. [03:30] lundy too bad [03:31] DaemonFC Most FLAC decoders wouldn't play them because it would break the file format in the sense that it would be a totally different profile. [03:31] DaemonFC You'd have to have at least the libFLAC that added it. [03:31] DaemonFC The situation with WavPack is unfortunately similar. [03:31] lundy with things like arduino and pi its just silly to have so many electronics that dont run on free software [03:32] DaemonFC Some WavPack software isn't completely compatible with the reference software, even though reference is BSD licensed! [03:32] lundy then if flac player cant do dsd you just-- update [03:32] DaemonFC ffmpeg stupidly made their own codec which can't compress as well and only handles PCM. [03:32] lundy ffmpeg has their own codec? [03:32] DaemonFC It also doesn't do block checksumming or MD5. [03:32] DaemonFC Yeah. Don't encode with it. [03:32] lundy ... [03:33] lundy whats it called [03:33] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9df4i6m36ezj2.irc) has joined #techrights [03:33] DaemonFC WavPack :) [03:33] eidolon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9kaIXkImCAM [03:33] TR Bot Interview with FFMPEG enthusiast - Invidious [03:33] DaemonFC They didn't even tell people they don't ship the real WavPack. [03:33] DaemonFC Fuck ffmpeg. [03:33] lundy they made their own fake wavpack? [03:33] lundy thats so weird [03:33] DaemonFC They also have their own fake Opus but it's not the default thank god. [03:33] DaemonFC Don't use that either. [03:34] DaemonFC It's also incomplete. [03:34] lundy wow [03:34] DaemonFC It's not compatible with Silk or Hybrid mode in the encoder and the psy model is nowhere near as good as reference Opus. [03:34] lundy avconv cant be better [03:34] lundy i mean avconv didnt do better than ffmpeg about this did they [03:34] DaemonFC ffmpeg also has a broken MP3 codec that you can use if you want. [03:35] DaemonFC I think it's called Shine. [03:35] TR News "Uros Popovic writes about building up a tiny (micro) Linux distribution from scratch, starting with building the Linux kernel, and writing some software to package the micro-distro." https://blog.adafruit.com/2023/09/27/making-a-micro-linux-distro-linux-riscv-popovicu94/ [03:35] TR Bot Making a micro Linux distro #Linux #RISCV @popovicu94 Adafruit Industries Makers, hackers, artists, designers and engineers! [03:35] lundy bizarre [03:35] DaemonFC They also broke AAC and marked it "Native AAC". Don't use it. [03:35] DaemonFC They say it's stable. It's about as bad as FAAC. [03:35] lundy maybe it should be called fumpeg [03:35] DaemonFC Compile it with fdkaac. [03:35] DaemonFC Use fdkaac for AAC. [03:36] DaemonFC You have to read pretty deep into ffmpeg to know all the stuff laying around that's broken that you should avoid. [03:36] lundy yeah ive never heard of any of this before [03:36] DaemonFC Xiph.org should have never bothered with Vorbis. Unfortunately they did and they made it worse than Musepack. [03:37] DaemonFC And they completely sucked the air out of the room in open source audio. [03:37] TR News Rusty revenant Servo returns to render once more https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/27/servo_returns/ [03:37] TR Bot Rusty revenant Servo returns to render once more The Register [03:37] DaemonFC Musepack is basically MPEG 1 Audio Layer II at the core, but they've extended it by adding all the features you'd actually want for high quality lossy audio compression. [03:38] DaemonFC But it hasn't been updated in years. SV8 is a good format though. [03:38] DaemonFC MPEG 1 Audio Layer III is the "high quality" one but....there were a lot of nasty patents on it owned by FhG, which came out after MP3 took off and started threatening to sue everyone that used it without paying them. [03:39] DaemonFC Musepack avoided all these nasty patents by being simple at the core, and in some ways that's better. [03:39] lundy no relation to the people who destroyed audacity i hope-- musegroup [03:39] DaemonFC MP3 uses subband coding but then feeds the result into the MDCT in a special way that only MP3 uses. Although Sony ATRAC3 is similar. [03:40] TR News (NEW): LWN Articles About Linux Kernel http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/LWN_Articles_About_Linux_Kernel.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/LWN_Articles_About_Linux_Kernel.gmi [03:40] TR Bot Tux Machines LWN Articles About Linux Kernel [03:40] TR News (NEW): TuxClocker 1.0: Overclocking Bliss for Linux Gamers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/TuxClocker_1_0_Overclocking_Bliss_for_Linux_Gamers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/TuxClocker_1_0_Overclocking_Bliss_for_Linux_Gamers.gmi [03:40] TR Bot Tux Machines TuxClocker 1.0: Overclocking Bliss for Linux Gamers [03:40] DaemonFC This creates so much noise that you also have to have a transform filter to remove it, and that damages the quality of the resulting audio stream in and of itself. [03:40] TR News (NEW): Tequila: The first forensic Linux distribution in Latin America http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Tequila_The_first_forensic_Linux_distribution_in_Latin_America.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Tequila_The_first_forensic_Linux_distribution_in_Latin_America.gmi [03:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Tequila: The first forensic Linux distribution in Latin America [03:40] TR News (NEW): GNUs Having a 40th Birthday Party and Youre Invited http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/08/GNU_s_Having_a_40th_Birthday_Party_and_You_re_Invited.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/08/GNU_s_Having_a_40th_Birthday_Party_and_You_re_Invited.gmi [03:40] TR Bot Tux Machines GNUs Having a 40th Birthday Party and Youre Invited [03:40] TR News (NEW): Security: The bogus CVE problem, European Cyber Resilience Act, and Patches http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Security_The_bogus_CVE_problem_European_Cyber_Resilience_Act_an.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Security_The_bogus_CVE_problem_European_Cyber_Resilience_Act_an.gmi [03:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Security: The bogus CVE problem, European Cyber Resilience Act, and Patches [03:40] lundy hmm [03:40] DaemonFC MP3 also applies Mid/Side stereo coding in the wrong order so there's no way to losslessly undo that part of the conversion later. [03:41] DaemonFC And it has no scalefactor band for audio data above 16 kHz. [03:41] DaemonFC There's no way to encode it efficiently. So some encoders deal with it by just lopping everything above 16 kHz off entirely. [03:42] DaemonFC Some encode it "intelligently" if adjusting the global gain won't bloat up that part of the file too much. [03:42] DaemonFC Then you have a "jigsaw" pattern. [03:42] DaemonFC You go through the file and sometimes there's data encoded there and sometimes there isn't. [03:43] DaemonFC It also lacks Clear Voice Detection, which Musepack has. Musepack also doesn't have MDCT artifacts like pre-echo because it's not using MDCT. [03:43] DaemonFC MP3 is really really really ugly. [03:44] DaemonFC It's like the FAT32 of lossy audio formats. [03:44] lundy heh [03:44] DaemonFC So they forgot a few things, like some people might want to put a 4+ GB file on the volume! [03:44] DaemonFC B-) [03:44] lundy that explains why its everywhere and takes forever to be replaced-- like fat32 [03:45] DaemonFC Well, most people just don't listen through high quality equipment or are distracted or are in a noisy environment. [03:45] DaemonFC You also get used to hearing the artifacts and you sort of expect them. [03:45] DaemonFC Also, a lot of music is really bad in the first place and format doesn't matter. It's just a lot of noise. [03:46] DaemonFC Loudness wars, mumble rap, people singing about their vagina being "wet". [03:46] DaemonFC It's not that MP3 is great at what it does. It's that a lot of people are monsters and don't care about quality in any sense. [03:47] DaemonFC I did a lot of listening tests in MP3 back when they were trying to figure out a psychoacoustic model for LAME. [03:48] DaemonFC That's since been replaced with one that runs faster and beats the old model at quality "most" of the time, but you can still request the older one. [03:50] lundy Loudness wars, <- getting rid of dynamic range is absolutely the ultimate crime against audio [03:51] lundy its like audio genocide [03:52] DaemonFC Well, the huge problem with this is it makes MP3 so much worse. [03:52] DaemonFC MP3 was designed back when music was quieter. To make it louder, you're already causing clipping on the CD! [03:53] DaemonFC The spectrographic analysis shows what happens to a song that's been brickwalled and then gets fed through an MP3 encoder. [03:53] lundy 8 bit stereo with a 16 bit bus! [03:55] DaemonFC You effectively cannot handle the dynamic range of a CD with MP3 so when the dynamic range a CD is capable of is already not enough, when you take that and remove nearly a quarter, what happens? [03:55] DaemonFC That's why a lot of people go to 320k CBR to try to deal with this. [03:56] DaemonFC It's the only way to make sure the encoder will even try to encode the frequency data to 20 kHz. [03:56] DaemonFC Because at this point bitrate starvation is difficult, but now you're already dealing with files that are about half the size of a FLAC. [03:56] DaemonFC So, at this point put it in FLAC from the CD and leave it alone. [03:56] lundy STEREO~1 [03:58] DaemonFC You can force MP3 to use L/R stereo but it's not advisable. [03:58] DaemonFC It ends up wasting bits that could be used for something more important. [03:58] DaemonFC The majority of the stereo image is the same, so encoding the parts that are the same twice is wasteful. [03:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [03:59] DaemonFC In some cases, the stereo image is 100% identical throughout the file. [03:59] DaemonFC CDs don't have any concept of just recording one channel. ● Sep 29 [04:00] eidolon https://yewtu.be/playlist?list=PLhSqBemgCvU3MoF8csMpTI8qL3-9IEQ2F [04:00] TR Bot Dubmood - Machine (DATA033) Audio Cassette - Invidious [04:00] DaemonFC Monaural recordings become two channels that are both identical on a CD, so if you're not using M/S when you compress it.... [04:02] lundy wasting half the compression [04:02] lundy dont think i ever had a cd with a mono recording on it though [04:04] DaemonFC 05. Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2.dsf: [04:04] DaemonFC original md5 signature: bd37409eeafa55567a213e1b1d08d55c [04:04] DaemonFC created 05. Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2.wv in 9.89 secs (lossless, 54.83%) [04:04] DaemonFC :) [04:05] DaemonFC 05. Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2.dsf 160.8 MiB (168,610,163) [04:06] DaemonFC 05. Another Brick in the Wall, Pt. 2.wv 72.6 MiB (76,162,690) [04:08] DaemonFC https://i.imgur.com/vMj7Cg7.jpeg [04:08] DaemonFC :D [04:12] TR News Techrights Has Grown Beyond the World Wide Web https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/09/17/beyond-the-web/ [04:12] TR Bot Blog Archive Techrights Has Grown Beyond the World Wide Web [04:13] TR News CDC Advice on COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters Ignores Scientific Evidence Regarding Risk and Benefit https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2023/09/17/risk-and-benefit/ [04:13] TR Bot Blog Archive CDC Advice on COVID-19 Vaccine Boosters Ignores Scientific Evidence Regarding Risk and Benefit [04:13] schestowitz DaemonFC: almost every harassment account or blog used against me got terminated the mods apparently have good understanding of what's going on and are sympathetic [04:13] schestowitz gulagboy offline for over a day already [04:13] schestowitz it must be serious [04:13] schestowitz or they would have fixed it by now [04:13] schestowitz wow, maybe 2 days offline now [04:14] schestowitz i assessed the now-offline defamation against me based on copies i made to disk but decided it's too early to show and explain what the militants did [04:14] schestowitz rianne might have an article today or next week [04:14] *radiance has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [04:16] DaemonFC You figure EndlessOSHole looked at some of this and decided to offline it himself? [04:17] DaemonFC Maybe he can go over to Ariadne's "treehouse". [04:17] DaemonFC They work together. [04:19] DaemonFC Pink Floyd - The Wall 3.2 GiB as DSF / 1.4 GiB as WavPack High DSD [04:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [04:20] DaemonFC lundy: There's no risk using WavPack on these. [04:20] lundy oh good [04:20] DaemonFC If you ever need the DSFs again you can just run wvunpack on *.wv in the directory. [04:20] DaemonFC It restores them and verifies they're the originals. [04:20] schestowitz Probably. It can be submitted anonymously or via IRC if you don't have [04:20] schestowitz an account there. [04:21] lundy nice [04:21] DaemonFC schestowitz: I wonder why GULAG chose that particular instance. [04:22] DaemonFC He's fake polite enough that I doubt he'd be banned on Mastodon dot social. [04:23] schestowitz Speaking of such things, TR's rolling log has some interesting points about [04:23] schestowitz IRC vs "Discord" on "smart"phones. There's obviously something very dodgy [04:23] schestowitz about Discord and not just its clients. [04:24] KindOne i just use a ssh client on my phone to ssh into a server with my irc client [04:25] DaemonFC Sony went and did a lot of weird shit to try to charge too much money for regular CDs. [04:25] DaemonFC When they went to using blue lasers to write the discs they branded it "Blue Spec" and charged more for those. [04:26] DaemonFC It's no different than any red book CD. [04:26] DaemonFC If anything it'll be worse. [04:26] prurigro KindOne: if you run weechat on a server there's a nice gui android client that can connect to it, and then of course there's znc and just running pure local on the phone [04:26] *jmcunx has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:26] DaemonFC I haven't encountered any where they didn't make the original recordings louder before burning the discs. [04:26] lundy anything to get a new patent on public domain technology [04:26] prurigro lots of options that aren't that closed monstrosity Discord [04:27] KindOne i just use screen+irssi on the server [04:27] DaemonFC They also did "Super Bit Mapping", which was just a weird way to push quantization noise higher into the frequency spectrum of the PCM data. [04:27] DaemonFC But it still only had the dynamic range of the CD Audio standard. [04:27] KindOne i use a iphone [04:28] DaemonFC It uses a psy model to approximate the sound characteristics inherent to DSD. I only have one SBM CD though. [04:28] DaemonFC It's an ELO CD. [04:28] schestowitz A technical investigation into the surveillance built into Discord would be [04:28] schestowitz a good followup to this one: http://techrights.org/2023/09/17/spying-and-profiling/ [04:28] TR Bot Reddit and the 'Modern' Web Are Spying and Profiling (Plus Censorship) Engines [04:29] DaemonFC I deleted my Discord account. [04:29] DaemonFC It's easier to focus on hobbies when you're not constantly dealing with idiots on spyware platforms. [04:30] DaemonFC I forgot how much I liked this album. [04:30] DaemonFC I've had it in a lot of different formats. [04:31] prurigro I've been avoiding it for ideological reasons- the fact that discord walls off the information and conversation for FOSS projects behind accounts on a proprietary platform is just crazy to me [04:32] lundy it would be nice if free software people werent always inventing ways to be less free than they were last week [04:32] lundy but i blame mostly open source for this [04:32] DaemonFC Open Source is a way to pitch Free Software to business. "Look at all the free shit!" [04:32] DaemonFC "Lookie IBM, Lookie!" [04:33] DaemonFC "FREE SHIT!" [04:33] DaemonFC "Maintained by people who will do free work!" [04:33] prurigro it's basically foss from the business perspective [04:33] lundy freedom but everything is really for monopolies to take over free software [04:33] lundy free horse [04:34] lundy bring it in [04:34] DaemonFC Desktop Linux wouldn't be worth using without software written and maintained by "hobbyists". [04:34] DaemonFC The only parts IBM is interested in are the parts they can sell as a "cheap UNIX", which are important for desktop users, but by themselves you couldn't do many useful things. [04:35] DaemonFC Even with all of GNOME up and running you couldn't do much with the computer if it stops there. [04:35] DaemonFC It's not a this that or the other situation. You need all of it. The whole repo. Or else the computer won't be useful to "someone". [04:36] lundy it under a free license so itll install itself [04:36] DaemonFC The desktop's only purpose is to not look hideous and be a collection of tools to run other programs. [04:36] lundy thanks libreos [04:36] DaemonFC KDE has a much more comprehensive suite of software than GNOME does. [04:36] lundy welcome to kde.org installing kde now [04:37] DaemonFC If you install GNOME, you'll regret it. You'll always want that KDE application that just doesn't fit in well. [04:37] lundy welcome to redhat.com [04:37] lundy installing... [04:37] DaemonFC GNOME isn't orthogonal to getting things done. [04:37] DaemonFC You're always tripping over GNOME. [04:37] DaemonFC Trying to hack it to make getting things done possible. It's a waste of time. [04:38] prurigro gnome, libreoffice and chrome would make a good chunk of people happy, but firefox, mpv, sway, keepassxc, neovim/vim, neomutt/mutt, input-leap, gimp, inkscape, audacity, ffmpeg, etc are way more interesting and useful [04:39] prurigro out of those, firefox is the one that isn't by hobbyists, and its shittier parts reflect that [04:39] lundy a hobbyist (free) software movement would be great [04:39] prurigro suckless is in that direction [04:39] lundy like free software but without... the empire [04:39] lundy suckless is great [04:40] lundy i use their slock program and a few others [04:42] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [04:43] *lundy has quit (Quit: https://mibbit.com Online IRC Client) [04:43] prurigro oh neat, I hadn't run into that before [04:52] DaemonFC I feel a little like the EMH Mark II. [04:52] DaemonFC The Doctor asks "What do you have?" [04:53] DaemonFC And it replies, "Only the best!" [04:58] DaemonFC Just remember. [04:58] DaemonFC You always finish on the Bach, never on Debussy. [04:58] DaemonFC B-) [04:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [05:03] DaemonFC For most Americans, if you can't get it at Walmart or McDonalds, it doesn't exist. [05:03] DaemonFC Don't get me wrong. I do love a good burger, cheap motor oil, and a good price on socks. [05:04] DaemonFC schestowitz: I like to tell people on the left a thing or two, you know. [05:04] DaemonFC If they didn't mock other people for going to McDonalds and have this superiority complex that they lord over the rest of us, maybe people wouldn't hate them so much. [05:05] DaemonFC But it's not in their nature to ever drop the pretense that their shit doesn't stink. [05:05] DaemonFC They need a mechanic more than the world needs another lawyer. [05:06] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Hyman [05:06] TR Bot Dick Hyman - Wikipedia [05:06] DaemonFC :) [05:10] eidolon Moog - The Electric Eclectics of Dick Hyman. Some choice ditties. [05:12] schestowitz For most Americans, if you can't get it at Walmart or McDonalds, it doesn't exist. [05:12] schestowitz most americans are poor [05:12] schestowitz (relatively) [05:12] schestowitz they don't get to choose where to shop [05:14] schestowitz (not too literally, but they need to go where it's cheap; budget too tight, credit card loans) [05:15] DaemonFC Yeah. Bank of England is draining you guys too. [05:15] DaemonFC Fast. [05:15] DaemonFC How much interest do you get on a bank account there? 7%? [05:15] DaemonFC Like inflation. [05:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [05:28] schestowitz 5.6 for 2 years [05:28] schestowitz it's not bad if you have savings [05:28] schestowitz really bad for people with a mortgage [05:28] schestowitz https://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/compare-savings-accounts-and-isas/?filters=isa [05:28] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://www.nationwide.co.uk/savings/compare-savings-accounts-and-isas/?filters=isa ) [05:28] schestowitz 2.6% [05:28] schestowitz 5.6^ [05:31] jrmu hm I heard RMS was undergoing cancer treatment [05:32] schestowitz huh? when? [05:32] schestowitz that's bad [05:32] jrmu 21:09 < DiffieHellman> jrmu: It seems he had cancer and also chemotherapy. [05:33] jrmu I think he said he believes he can recover from it [05:33] schestowitz was that recent?> [05:33] jrmu yeah this week [05:33] schestowitz i spoke to him this month [05:33] jrmu I saw a photo of him from the recent GNU celebration [05:33] jrmu he looked visibly weaker [05:33] jrmu I hope he's ok [05:33] schestowitz i see [05:33] schestowitz he always had some health issues [05:33] schestowitz but not like these [05:34] jrmu yeah maybe if you get a chance to speak to him again, you can ask how he's doing [05:34] schestowitz and online abuse must have taken its toll [05:35] DaemonFC Oh this is funny. [05:36] DaemonFC Audacious can play .dsf but not in a WavPack. VLC can't play .dsf, but can if you put it in a WavPack. [05:36] schestowitz jrmu: http://techrights.org/o/2023/09/18/internet-hall-of-fame-rms-speech/ [05:36] TR Bot 10 Years Ago, When GNU Had Almost Turned 30, Richard Stallman Gave This Internet Hall of Fame Induction Speech [05:39] TR News Techrights Microsoft GitHub Expos In the Alex Graveley Case, His Lawyer, Rick Cofer, Appears to Have Bribed the DA to Keep Graveley (and Others) Out of Prison http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Microsoft_GitHub_Expose_In_the_Alex_Graveley_Case_His_Lawyer_Ri.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Microsoft_GitHub_Expose_In_the_Alex_Graveley_Case_His_Lawyer_Ri.gmi [05:39] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft GitHub Expos In the Alex Graveley Case, His Lawyer, Rick Cofer, Appears to Have Bribed the DA to Keep Graveley (and Others) Out of Prison [05:40] TR News Techrights endsoftwarepatents.org Still Going, Some Good News From Canada http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/endsoftwarepatents_org_Still_Going_Some_Good_News_From_Canada.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/endsoftwarepatents_org_Still_Going_Some_Good_News_From_Canada.gmi [05:40] TR Bot Techrights endsoftwarepatents.org Still Going, Some Good News From Canada [05:40] TR News (NEW): Windows and Microsoft Failed the World on Computer Security http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Windows_and_Microsoft_Failed_the_World_on_Computer_Security.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Windows_and_Microsoft_Failed_the_World_on_Computer_Security.gmi [05:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Windows and Microsoft Failed the World on Computer Security [05:40] TR News (NEW): Raspberry Pi 5 is Great News for GNU/Linux and Free Software http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Raspberry_Pi_5_is_Great_News_for_GNU_Linux_and_Free_Software.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Raspberry_Pi_5_is_Great_News_for_GNU_Linux_and_Free_Software.gmi [05:40] TR Bot Tux Machines Raspberry Pi 5 is Great News for GNU/Linux and Free Software [05:40] DaemonFC https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/accessibility/ada-anniversary-judy-heumann-tribute/ [05:40] TR Bot Celebrating the 33rd anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act [05:41] schestowitz Gulag [05:41] schestowitz for Americans with Disabilitie [05:41] schestowitz Yes, Gulag [05:41] DaemonFC Yeah, the law that made it so you have to circle the parking lot at Walmart to find a spot while there's people who bribed a doctor to get a placard. [05:41] schestowitz we help the Pentagon main people [05:41] schestowitz but we care for Americans with Disabilities [05:41] schestowitz no irony here [05:43] DaemonFC https://chromestatus.com/feature/5190179073032192 [05:43] TR Bot Chrome Platform Status [05:43] DaemonFC Google makes spyware and calls it "Privacy Sandbox". [05:43] DaemonFC :) [05:43] DaemonFC Opt in to "Privacy". [05:44] jrmu thanks for the link [05:44] DaemonFC Well, at least they do a good job learning from DuckDuckGo. [05:44] DaemonFC First the instant answers box and now "Privacy". [05:46] DaemonFC schestowitz: The woman at GEICO asked why I was canceling my policy. [05:46] DaemonFC Told her "Progressive is cheaper, for more coverage, even if I don't have spyware on my phone yelling at me every time I press the brake pedal like DriveEasy does." [05:51] DaemonFC What they do is they bait you in with a small discount. Then they make it even bigger. Then by the third term they start taking it away. [05:52] DaemonFC Your driving never changed. It was a trap to get you to put the spyware on there and forget it. [05:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [06:01] *jacobk (~quassel@838aynky6btpe.irc) has joined #techrights [06:01] *schestowitz gives voice to jacobk [06:02] TR News (NEW): There is still no Linux app store http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/There_is_still_no_Linux_app_store.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/There_is_still_no_Linux_app_store.gmi [06:02] TR Bot Tux Machines There is still no Linux app store [06:02] TR News (NEW): Richard Stallman Said to Have Cancer http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Richard_Stallman_Said_to_Have_Cancer.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Richard_Stallman_Said_to_Have_Cancer.gmi [06:02] TR Bot Tux Machines Richard Stallman Said to Have Cancer [06:05] TR News Naomi Klein: The right has put the lefts ideas in a bonkers blender https://breachmedia.ca/naomi-klein-steve-bannon-maga-doppelganger-populism-2/ [06:05] TR Bot Naomi Klein: The right has put the left's ideas in a bonkers blender The Breach [06:05] DaemonFC schestowitz: Mandy didn't get it when I put on his belt and aimed the buckle at him and said "You know, Mandy. You're as cold as ice." "Prepare to be blinded by DOUBLE VISION!" [06:05] DaemonFC The Foreigner Belt from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. :P [06:05] TR News New York Is Rebounding for the Rich. Nearly Everyone Else Is Struggling. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/28/nyregion/nyc-income-gap-wages.html [06:05] TR Bot New York Is Rebounding for the Rich. Nearly Everyone Else Is Struggling. - The New York Times [06:06] DaemonFC It's amazing that we had 100 years of creativity in the 20th century. [06:07] DaemonFC And he listens to this crap they have now. [06:07] TR News Pluralistic: Yanis Varoufakis's "Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism?" (28 Sep 2023) https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/28/cloudalists/ [06:07] TR Bot Pluralistic: Yanis Varoufakiss Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism? (28 Sep 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [06:07] schestowitz craptok [06:09] TR News BSD Now 526: ZFS Replication Tools https://www.bsdnow.tv/526 [06:09] TR Bot BSD Now 526: ZFS Replication Tools [06:15] DaemonFC Interesting. DFF is Big Endian. Heh. DSF is Little Endian. [06:15] DaemonFC Sony and Philips collaborate on a lot of things and then do it differently. [06:18] *DaemonFC gives voice to u-amarsh04 [06:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [06:20] XRevan86 https://old.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/16v1d6n/ [06:20] TR Bot reddit.com: over 18? [06:20] eidolon https://rocknerd.co.uk/2023/09/28/bandcamp-has-been-sold-to-songtradr/ [06:20] TR Bot Bandcamp has been sold to Songtradr. What does this mean for the musicians? Rocknerd [06:21] XRevan86 schestowitz: ^ It's confirmed, RMS has oncology. [06:21] TR News Czech Republic and Frankfurt talks from RMS coming next https://stallman.org/talks.html [06:21] TR Bot Talks - Richard Stallman [06:21] DaemonFC Why do you have to be over 18 to see StallmanWasRight? [06:22] XRevan86 I don't know. [06:22] TR News No online copy of the RMS talk for GNU40 yet https://www.gnu.org/audio-video/philosophy-recordings.html [06:22] TR Bot Recordings about GNU Philosophy and History - GNU Project - Free-Software Foundation [06:25] XRevan86 https://audio-video.gnu.org/video/gnu40/closing-remarks-gnu40.webm What's this then? [06:27] DaemonFC [9/29/23 12:25 am] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/08/mcdonalds-ice-cream-machine-teardown-shows-error-codes-dmca-keep-it-broken/ [06:27] TR Bot iFixit tears down a McDonalds ice cream machine, demands DMCA exemption for it | Ars Technica [06:27] DaemonFC [9/29/23 12:26 am] McDonalds brought this on themselves when they got rid of the cash registers and the drink machines employees would press the cup against and the old ice cream machines. [06:27] DaemonFC [9/29/23 12:26 am] If the machine breaks down it can't be used and it costs the franchise owner money. This happened to their ordering kiosks the other day and it's still not fixed a week later at the one on the other side of town. [06:27] DaemonFC [9/29/23 12:26 am] They're all Windows and they all have a blue screen of death that says the operating system has been corrupted and needs to be recovered. [06:28] DaemonFC [9/29/23 12:28 am] Proprietary software sort of implies it will be a pain in the ass at some point and break down and cause you problems you can't fix. It would be better if there was no such software at all so that at least they would have enough employees scheduled to run cash registers and fill soda cups. Chik-Fil-A doesn't have Windows ordering kiosks and automated soft drink machines. [06:36] eidolon https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/28/adams-right-to-shelter-does-not-apply-to-migrant-crisis-00118903 [06:36] TR Bot NYC policy to shelter the homeless shouldn't cover migrant influx - POLITICO [06:37] TR News (NEW): 6 Best Free and Open Source Linux Reference Management Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Reference_Management_Tools.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Reference_Management_Tools.gmi [06:37] TR Bot Tux Machines 6 Best Free and Open Source Linux Reference Management Tools [06:37] TR News Techrights Techrights Extends Wishes of Good Health to Richard M. Stallman http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Techrights_Extends_Wishes_of_Good_Health_to_Richard_M_Stallman.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Techrights_Extends_Wishes_of_Good_Health_to_Richard_M_Stallman.gmi [06:37] TR Bot Techrights Techrights Extends Wishes of Good Health to Richard M. Stallman [06:37] TR News Techrights Conde Nast (Reddit), Which Endlessly Defamed Richard Stallman and Had Paid Salaries to Microsoft-Connected Pedophiles, Says You Must Be Over 18 to See 'Stallman Was Right' http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Conde_Nast_Reddit_Which_Endlessly_Defamed_Richard_Stallman_and_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Conde_Nast_Reddit_Which_Endlessly_Defamed_Richard_Stallman_and_.gmi [06:37] TR Bot Techrights Conde Nast (Reddit), Which Endlessly Defamed Richard Stallman and Had Paid Salaries to Microsoft-Connected Pedophiles, Says You Must Be Over 18 to See 'Stallman Was Right' [06:41] DaemonFC schestowitz: My what a big image you have. [06:42] *rianne_ has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [06:42] *rianne_ (~rianne@freenode-7uc.ra8.a7lnth.IP) has joined #techrights [06:42] *rianne__ (~rianne@3stvfjh5iuw88.irc) has joined #techrights [06:42] *rianne_ has quit (connection closed) [06:46] *radiance (~renegade@bcdcac82.skybroadband.com) has joined #techrights [06:49] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [06:50] XRevan86 schestowitz: Ye jumped to assumptions there, it may be a remnant of the Reddit war: https://old.reddit.com/r/StallmanWasRight/comments/14fhn91/rstallmanwasright_is_now_marked_nsfw/ [06:50] TR Bot reddit.com: over 18? [06:54] schestowitz that site is a mess [06:54] schestowitz and they are not fixing it [06:55] schestowitz conde nasty should be called conde nasty, rms told me [06:55] schestowitz they don't even ATTEMPT to do what's right [06:55] schestowitz they take Microsoft and Bill Gates bribes [06:55] schestowitz so any attempts to promote GNU/Linux will be undermined [06:55] schestowitz they know their real "clients" [06:56] TR News Rick Astley and Yung Gravy Settle Betty (Get Money) Copyright Infringement Suit After Eight Months https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/rick-astley-yung-gravy-lawsuit-settlement/ [06:56] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/rick-astley-yung-gravy-lawsuit-settlement/ ) [06:56] XRevan86 It's weird to say that Reddit made the subreddit 18+ if its moderators made it 18+, even if it is in reaction to Reddit doing crazy things. [06:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [07:10] TR News How To Install Squid Proxy Server on Debian 12 https://idroot.us/install-squid-proxy-server-debian-12/ [07:10] TR Bot How To Install Squid Proxy Server on Debian 12 - idroot [07:10] TR News How To Install Laravel on Manjaro https://idroot.us/install-laravel-manjaro/ [07:10] TR Bot How To Install Laravel on Manjaro - idroot [07:11] TR News How to update OpenSUSE https://owlhowto.com/how-to-update-packages-on-opensuse/ [07:11] TR Bot How to update OpenSUSE [07:12] TR News Backups and Btrfs RAID1 https://matija.suklje.name/backups-and-btrfs-raid1 [07:12] TR Bot Backups and Btrfs RAID1 - Self-inflicted face-palms and fixes Hooks Humble Homepage [07:12] TR News How to Set Custom Shortcut to Tile Windows in Ubuntu 23.10 https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/09/custom-shortcut-tile-windows-ubuntu-23-10/ [07:12] TR Bot How to Set Custom Shortcut to Tile Windows in Ubuntu 23.10 | UbuntuHandbook [07:12] TR News The Oldest Active Torrent on the Internet Is 20 Years Old Today, and It Rules https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jg5bmy/the-oldest-active-torrent-on-the-internet-is-20-years-old-today-and-it-rules [07:12] TR Bot The Oldest Active Torrent on the Internet Is 20 Years Old Today, and It Rules [07:17] TR News It was not about Europe and not about Open Source. It's an openwashing festival of American companies and their front group. https://blog.opensource.org/three-highlights-from-open-source-summit-europe-2023/ [07:19] TR News Autotune is now "HEY HI"? https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/warner-music-ceo-ai-music-industry-user-generated-content/ [07:19] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/warner-music-ceo-ai-music-industry-user-generated-content/ ) [07:19] TR News Making music with a computer is "CG", not "HEY HI", and it's not even remotely new [07:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [07:20] TR News Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty Runs 31% Faster on AMD GPUs in Linux Compared to Windows 11 https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cyberpunk-2077-31-percent-faster-on-amd-in-linux-vs-windows-11 [07:20] TR Bot Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty Runs 31% Faster on AMD GPUs in Linux Compared to Windows 11 | Tom's Hardware [07:20] *jacobk (~quassel@32hz32it3ih2k.irc) has joined #techrights [07:21] TR News Social [sic] media [sic] is the wrong media https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/social-media-and-private-partnership-inside-the-changes-at-indias-space-agency [07:21] TR Bot Social media and private partnership: inside the changes at India's space agency | The Straits Times [07:21] TR News Converseen Update: Revamped Interface, Enhanced PDF Tool, Folder Import https://fasterland.net/converseen-update-revamped-interface-enhanced-pdf-tool-folder-import.html [07:21] TR Bot Converseen Update: Revamped Interface, Enhanced PDF Tool, Folder Import - Fasterland [07:22] TR News Raspberry Pi 5 Promises to Be a Game Changer https://linuxiac.com/raspberry-pi-5-promises-to-be-a-game-changer/ [07:22] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 Promises to Be a Game Changer [07:23] TR News Lisandro Damin Nicanor Prez Meyer: sd-mux-ctrl in Debian https://perezmeyer.com.ar/blog/2023/09/28/sd-mux-ctrl_in_debian/ [07:23] TR Bot sd-mux-ctrl in Debian Solo s que se querer, que tengo Dios y tengo fe [07:23] TR News Why is a feature not available in the syslog-ng package? https://peter.czanik.hu/other/syslog-ng-why-is-a-feature-not-available-in-the-syslog-ng-package/ [07:23] TR Bot Why is a feature not available in the syslog-ng package? | Random thoughts of Peter 'CzP' Czanik [07:24] TR News Flatseal 2.1.0 Released with Refined Visuals + More https://www.omglinux.com/flatseal-2-1-0-released-with-refined-visuals-more/ [07:24] TR Bot Flatseal 2.1.0 Released with Refined Visuals + More - OMG! Linux [07:24] TR News The 5 Best Tools to Create a Bootable USB From an ISO in Linux https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/5-best-tools-create-bootable-usb-iso-linux [07:24] TR Bot The 5 Best Tools to Create a Bootable USB From an ISO in Linux | Linux Journal [07:26] DaemonFC Mandy was demanding to know why he couldn't hear me. [07:26] DaemonFC I said "Noise isolating headphones." [07:26] DaemonFC Errr, why I couldn't hear him. [07:33] DaemonFC Depeche Mode SACDs? [07:33] DaemonFC Why not? [07:33] *DaemonFC gives voice to jacobk [07:34] *agm` (~user@i45w5azn2fgpc.irc) has joined #techrights [07:37] *schestowitz gives voice to agm` [07:38] TR News Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) product development tracking is downgraded to JAVASCRIPT BLOAT https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/rhel-tracking-moving-to-jira [07:38] TR Bot Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) product development tracking is moving to Jira [07:39] DaemonFC Construction Time Again [07:39] TR News 6 Best Free and Open Source Linux Reference Management Tools https://www.linuxlinks.com/referencemanagementtools/ [07:39] TR Bot Best Free and Open Source Linux Reference Management Tools - LinuxLinks [07:41] DaemonFC These sound much better than my MODE box set. [07:41] DaemonFC schestowitz: I don't know who would put that in the Goodwill donation box. [07:41] DaemonFC I got it for $10. [07:44] DaemonFC It's been debated endlessly whether people prefer DSD or PCM. [07:45] DaemonFC Obviously the studies that more heavily favor DSD were funded by Sony and Philips, who market it. [07:45] DaemonFC One thing I do notice about SACD is they almost never ruin the transfer. [07:46] DaemonFC It's as good as you're going to get represented in a digital format. If you had a studio master tape it may be a little better. [07:46] DaemonFC Depends what condition the tape is in and what kind of tape it is. [07:47] DaemonFC Some sit in a vault and degrade and they have to resort to "tape baking" which is just what it sounds like, to get them to play again, then they digitize them and hide all the rest of the sin from years of neglect at a digital audio workstation and call it a remaster. [07:48] DaemonFC Universal Music had a tape baking gone wrong in 2008. :) [07:48] DaemonFC Not a "tape baking", but the joke works. [07:48] DaemonFC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Universal_Studios_fire [07:48] TR Bot 2008 Universal Studios fire - Wikipedia [07:49] DaemonFC "Rosen argued master recordings are irreplaceable, even if copies exist, because the original recording "contains the record's details in their purest form," citing Andy Zax, a Grammy-nominated producer and writer who works on reissued recordings.[4] However, that claim has been disputed by many audio experts. including Analog Planet editor Michael Fremer, who said that due to use and natural decay, often safety copies become a superior source for [07:49] DaemonFC reissues.[16] UMG stated that even when the original master is available, the company often works from duplicates or digitized versions because the fidelity of the original master has deteriorated from overuse or from chemical interactions over time or for other technical reasons. UMG said it reissues thousands of recordings a year, and each project presents a unique set of challenges to overcome. In each case, UMG's team of experts use the highest [07:49] DaemonFC fidelity recordings possible.[15]" [07:49] DaemonFC At some point, it MUST be digitized using the best possible method because the tapes are not going to last forever. [07:50] DaemonFC There really is no replacing some of this stuff. It's just gone or deteriorated forever because they had it all in one place and it burned. [07:50] DaemonFC They downplay the consequences of letting companies copyright things forever. [07:51] DaemonFC If copyright expired after 40 or 50 years, and the Library of Congress had to digitize everything, we'd have been better off. UMG wouldn't, so they lobbied for copyright going on forever. [07:51] jrmu https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37699851 [07:51] TR Bot Richard Stallman reveals he has cancer in the GNU 40 Hacker Meeting talk | Hacker News [07:54] DaemonFC GULAGtwitter is still down. :) [07:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [08:18] schestowitz DaemonFC: maybe it's not even coming back [08:18] schestowitz they are not sys adminas [08:18] schestowitz one of them cannot even fix a water pipe [08:18] schestowitz for weeks [08:19] TR News (NEW): 6 Best Free and Open Source Linux Reference Management Tools http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Reference_Management_Tools.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/6_Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Linux_Reference_Management_Tools.gmi [08:19] TR Bot Tux Machines 6 Best Free and Open Source Linux Reference Management Tools [08:19] TR News (NEW): COSMIC Desktop Unveils Exciting Updates http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/COSMIC_Desktop_Unveils_Exciting_Updates.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/COSMIC_Desktop_Unveils_Exciting_Updates.gmi [08:19] TR Bot Tux Machines COSMIC Desktop Unveils Exciting Updates [08:19] TR News (NEW): Peppermint Introduces PepMini: Minimal OS with Debian http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Peppermint_Introduces_PepMini_Minimal_OS_with_Debian.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Peppermint_Introduces_PepMini_Minimal_OS_with_Debian.gmi [08:19] TR Bot Tux Machines Peppermint Introduces PepMini: Minimal OS with Debian [08:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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Ubuntu [09:08] TR News Every forum reply on a commercial vendor site https://rubenerd.com/every-commercial-vendor-forum-reply/ [09:08] TR Bot Every forum reply on a commercial vendor site [09:09] TR News Network Wizard fixes https://bkhome.org/news/202309/network-wizard-fixes.html [09:09] TR Bot Network Wizard fixes [09:09] TR News "Malwarebytes Labs wrote that scammers are now targeting Bing Chat users with malicious ads within the chatbot." https://siliconangle.com/2023/09/28/scammers-target-microsofts-ai-chatbot-bing-chat-malicious-ads/ [09:09] TR Bot target Microsoft's AI chatbot Bing Chat with malicious ads - SiliconANGLE [09:10] *ZedHedTed (~ZedHedTed@be2dj9p83s9eu.irc) has joined #techrights [09:10] TR News "How can we identify content produced by generative AI tools? One solution being touted is watermarking but what are the human rights risks? " https://www.accessnow.org/watermarking-generative-ai-what-how-why-and-why-not/ [09:10] TR Bot Watermarking & generative AI: what, how, why (and why not) - Access Now [09:11] TR News As a New Term Begins, Where Does the Supreme Court Stand on Criminal Justice? https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/as-a-new-term-begins-where-does-the-supreme-court-stand-on-criminal-justice [09:11] TR Bot As a New Term Begins, Where Does the Supreme Court Stand on Criminal Justice? | ACLU [09:11] TR News Cable factory workers continue strike in Kocaeli https://bianet.org/haber/cable-factory-workers-continue-strike-in-kocaeli-285493 [09:11] TR Bot Cable factory workers continue strike in Kocaeli [09:11] TR News International Cybersecurity Standards do Not Address Surveillance Capitalism https://puri.sm/posts/international-cybersecurity-standards-do-not-address-surveillance-capitalism/ [09:11] TR Bot International Cybersecurity Standards do Not Address Surveillance Capitalism Purism [09:13] TR News Many buzzwords, less substance https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/efficient-automation-red-hat-open-innovation-labs [09:13] TR Bot Efficient automation with Red Hat Open Innovation Labs [09:14] TR News Red Hat is shilling the frauds from Gartner. "They're frauds, but OUR frauds, too! And Microsoft's!" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/friday-five-september-29-2023-red-hat [09:14] TR Bot Friday Five September 29, 2023 | Red Hat [09:14] eidolon https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/cbp-announces-new-global-entry-mobile-app [09:14] TR Bot CBP announces new Global Entry Mobile App | U.S. Customs and Border Protection [09:19] TR News Event Wrap: AusNOG 2023 https://blog.apnic.net/2023/09/29/event-wrap-ausnog-2023/ [09:19] TR Bot Event Wrap: AusNOG 2023 | APNIC Blog [09:19] TR News Distributed latency monitoring https://blog.apnic.net/2023/09/29/distributed-latency-monitoring/ [09:19] TR Bot Distributed latency monitoring | APNIC Blog [09:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[09:36] *MinceR gives voice to rianne__ ZedHedTed [09:41] TR News Creating a Time Capsule instance using Samba, FreeBSD, and ZFS https://dan.langille.org/2023/09/28/creating-a-time-capsule-instance-using-samba-freebsd-and-zfs/ [09:41] TR Bot Creating a Time Capsule instance using Samba, FreeBSD, and ZFS Dan Langille's Other Diary [09:42] TR News Was Javascript really made in 10 days? https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/did-brendan-eich-really-make-javascript-in-10-days/ [09:42] TR Bot Was Javascript really made in 10 days? Buttondown [09:44] TR News SQLite FDW 2.4.0 released https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/sqlite-fdw-240-released-2728/ [09:44] TR Bot PostgreSQL: SQLite FDW 2.4.0 released [09:45] DaemonFC schestowitz: https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/29/ifixit-requests-dmca-exemption-to-figure-out-how-to-repair-mcdonalds-ice-cream-machines/ [09:45] TR Bot iFixit Requests DMCA ExemptionTo Figure Out How To Repair McDonalds Ice Cream Machines. | BaronHK's Rants [09:46] DaemonFC "When you use proprietary software, youre not in much of a position to demand anything, and when you use proprietary software with DRM, that goes triple, because theres now a law that makes it a crime to even try to fix your property." [09:48] TR News OSI: we are binging on jeffrey epstein and bill gates dicks while defaming the poor person who started Free software. Also: We are OSI are taking bribes from Microsoft. Pedophilia does not bother us, in fact we leverage that for power and money. [09:48] TR News endsoftwarepatents.org Still Going, Some Good News From Canada https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/endsoftwarepatents_org_Still_Going_Some_Good_News_From_Canada.shtml [09:48] TR Bot Techrights endsoftwarepatents.org Still Going, Some Good News From Canada [09:48] TR News $2,000 awarded for Flick Intelligence information sharing patent prior art https://www.unifiedpatents.com/insights/2023/9/27/2000-awarded-for-flick-intelligence-information-sharing-patent-prior-art [09:48] TR Bot $2,000 awarded for Flick Intelligence information sharing patent prior art Unified Patents [09:50] TR News Broad Claims Bite Back: Drafting Narrower Scope in the Age of IPR https://patentlyo.com/patent/2023/09/broad-claim.html [09:50] TR Bot Broad Claim [09:52] TR News Microsoft GitHub Expos In the Alex Graveley Case, His Lawyer, Rick Cofer, Appears to Have Bribed the DA to Keep Graveley (and Others) Out of Prison https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Microsoft_GitHub_Expose_In_the_Alex_Graveley_Case_His_Lawyer_Ri.shtml [09:52] TR Bot Techrights Microsoft GitHub Expos In the Alex Graveley Case, His Lawyer, Rick Cofer, Appears to Have Bribed the DA to Keep Graveley (and Others) Out of Prison [09:52] TR News The Debian Project Leader said the main thing Debian lacked was more contributors https://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/The_Debian_Project_Leader_said_the_main_thing_Debian_lacked_was.shtml [09:52] TR Bot Techrights The Debian Project Leader said the main thing Debian lacked was more contributors ● Sep 29 [10:08] TR News Liar Zemlin pretends LF is like the largest software company. With 200 staff members??? And few of whom technical??? [10:11] TR News Techrights A 'Code of Conduct' Typically Promoted by Criminal Corporations to Protect Crimes From Scrutiny http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/A_Code_of_Conduct_Typically_Promoted_by_Criminal_Corporations_t.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/A_Code_of_Conduct_Typically_Promoted_by_Criminal_Corporations_t.gmi [10:11] TR Bot Techrights A 'Code of Conduct' Typically Promoted by Criminal Corporations to Protect Crimes From Scrutiny [10:11] TR News Techrights Red Hat Does Not Understand Community and It's Publicly Promoting Microsoft's Gartner http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Red_Hat_Does_Not_Understand_Community_and_It_s_Publicly_Promoti.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Red_Hat_Does_Not_Understand_Community_and_It_s_Publicly_Promoti.gmi [10:11] TR Bot Techrights Red Hat Does Not Understand Community and It's Publicly Promoting Microsoft's Gartner [10:11] TR News Techrights Links 29/09/2023: Linux Foundation Boasting, QLite FDW 2.4.0 Released http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Links_29_09_2023_Linux_Foundation_Boasting_QLite_FDW_2_4_0_Rele.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Links_29_09_2023_Linux_Foundation_Boasting_QLite_FDW_2_4_0_Rele.gmi [10:11] TR Bot Techrights Links 29/09/2023: Linux Foundation Boasting, QLite FDW 2.4.0 Released [10:12] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/today_s_howtos.1.gmi [10:12] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [10:12] TR News (NEW): Free Software: Converseen, Flatseal, Bootable USB Creators, and syslog-ng http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Free_Software_Converseen_Flatseal_Bootable_USB_Creators_and_sys.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Free_Software_Converseen_Flatseal_Bootable_USB_Creators_and_sys.gmi [10:12] TR Bot Tux Machines Free Software: Converseen, Flatseal, Bootable USB Creators, and syslog-ng [10:12] TR News (NEW): Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty Runs 31% Faster on AMD GPUs in Linux Compared to Windows 11 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Cyberpunk_Phantom_Liberty_Runs_31_Faster_on_AMD_GPUs_in_Linux_C.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Cyberpunk_Phantom_Liberty_Runs_31_Faster_on_AMD_GPUs_in_Linux_C.gmi [10:12] TR Bot Tux Machines Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty Runs 31% Faster on AMD GPUs in Linux Compared to Windows 11 [10:12] TR News (NEW): Today in Techrights http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Today_in_Techrights.gmi [10:12] TR Bot Tux Machines Today in Techrights [10:13] TR News Juan Pablo Ugarte: Cambalache 0.16.0 Released https://blogs.gnome.org/xjuan/2023/09/28/cambalache-0-16-0-released/ [10:13] TR Bot Cambalache 0.16.0 Released ar.xjuan.Blog [10:14] TR News Martn Abente Lahaye: Flatseal 2.1.0 https://blogs.gnome.org/tchx84/2023/09/28/flatseal-2-1-0/ [10:14] TR Bot Flatseal 2.1.0 Martn Abente Lahaye [10:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. 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[10:33] MinceR :> [10:33] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23091750 [10:33] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [10:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [11:08] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [11:09] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@9df4i6m36ezj2.irc) has joined #techrights [11:09] *MinceR gives voice to sharkey u-amarsh04 [11:09] *MinceR removes voice from sharkey [11:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [11:22] TR News https://opensource.org/donate is offline. Did Microsoft max up the "donations" (bribes) again? 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      [11:40] TR News Answering some questions about the Raspberry Pi 5 https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/answering-some-questions-about-raspberry-pi-5 [11:42] TR News Not much of value would be lost https://www.securityweek.com/80-of-cisa-staff-at-risk-of-furlough-as-government-shutdown-looms/ see http://techrights.org/o/2023/03/21/microsoft-stacking-panels-2023/ [11:43] *TechrightsBot-tr (~TR@iijacan2vrgta.irc) has joined #techrights [11:43] *schestowitz gives voice to TechrightsBot-tr [11:44] TR News US border crossing shutdowns continue, leaving cargo in limbo https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/us-border-crossing-shutdowns-continue-leaving-cargo-in-limbo/ [11:44] TR Bot US border crossing shutdowns continue, leaving cargo in limbo [11:44] eidolon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1JImdh0Z78 [11:44] TR Bot https://invidious.projectsegfau.lt/watch?v=z1JImdh0Z78 [11:45] TR Bot invidious.projectsegfau.lt | Microsoft Windows 95 Shutdown Sound - Invidious [11:45] schestowitz that was short [11:45] schestowitz no ads [11:47] TR News Disinformation is routinely spread by NY Times too, but it does not want you to notice https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/28/technology/china-disinformation-us-state-department.html Disinformation and racist, for and by the elites [11:47] TR Bot China Uses Deceptive Methods to Sow Disinformation, U.S. Says - The New York Times [11:49] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [11:51] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@77dniss96v4qn.irc) has joined #techrights [11:52] *MinceR gives voice to u-amarsh04 [11:53] TR News Licensing Platform Songtradr Purchases Bandcamp and Draws an Investment From Epic Games https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/songtradr-bandcamp-acquisition/ [11:53] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/songtradr-bandcamp-acquisition/ ) [11:54] TR News ECHR hears landmark lawsuit brought by youth climate activists against 33 governments https://www.jurist.org/news/2023/09/6-youth-climate-activists-bring-landmark-lawsuit-against-33-governments-demanding-climate-action/ [11:54] TR Bot ECHR hears landmark lawsuit brought by youth climate activists against 33 governments - JURIST - News [11:55] TR News Heres the Email Amazon Sent Sellers Its Allegedly Screwing Over After FTC Filed Antitrust Lawsuit https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgw5yd/heres-the-email-amazon-sent-sellers-its-allegedly-screwing-over-after-ftc-filed-antitrust-lawsuit [11:55] TR Bot Heres the Email Amazon Sent Sellers Its Allegedly Screwing Over After FTC Filed Antitrust Lawsuit [11:55] MinceR all the governments need to do is claim that accelerating global warming is what their religion dictates [11:55] TR News Federal Lawsuit Accuses Tesla of Racial Discrimination https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/28/business/tesla-eeoc-discrimination-black-workers.html [11:55] TR Bot Federal Lawsuit Accuses Tesla of Racial Discrimination - The New York Times [11:56] schestowitz MinceR: no such religion will exist [11:56] schestowitz the religion exist because they spread [11:56] schestowitz by births mostly [11:57] TR News Ministry withdraws from Golden Orange Film Festival reinstatement of documentary https://bianet.org/haber/ministry-withdraws-from-golden-orange-film-festival-reinstatement-of-documentary-285476 [11:57] TR Bot Ministry withdraws from Golden Orange Film Festival reinstatement of documentary [11:57] MinceR maybe it's enough to claim that they're abrahamic and as such they believe that "God" will protect the Earth from anything stupid they do [11:57] MinceR and that it exists solely for them to exploit [11:57] MinceR but making up new religions isn't difficult [11:57] MinceR that's how they all came into being [11:58] TR News They're so such thing as "HEY HI" company/ies. They're just company that may or may not make something, then label it "HEY HI" for marketing's sake. [11:59] TR News Generative AI = GC with "HEY HI" thrown in for hype and VC money. [11:59] TR News HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI HEY HI https://www.michigandaily.com/opinion/war-and-pcs-how-ai-will-change-the-face-of-modern-warfare/ [11:59] TR Bot AI could change modern warfare [11:59] MinceR garbage collector? ● Sep 29 [12:00] TR News August Hanning: Legal and Critical Scrutiny for Ex German Intelligence Chief's Advisory Gigs https://www.spiegel.de/international/business/august-hanning-legal-and-critical-scrutiny-for-ex-german-intelligence-chief-s-advisory-gigs-a-3d2d7967-447a-41d8-88d0-6d689a22be35 [12:00] TR Bot August Hanning: Legal and Critical Scrutiny for Ex German Intelligence Chief's Advisory Gigs - DER SPIEGEL [12:01] TR News Whatever "HEY HI" is, you can be sure the "next generation" of passwords will have that along with "smart" and other buzzwords [12:01] *ZedHedTed has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:04] TR News Always a bad news story: something that starts with "AI" in the title. You know it's meaningless junk with buzzwords. [12:05] TR News Koch think tank continues to attack the Net by pretending that corporations controlling everything is perfectly OK https://reason.com/2023/09/28/fcc-revives-common-carriage-for-the-internet/ [12:05] TR Bot FCC Revives Common Carriage for the Internet [12:06] TR News Rising inflation expected following post-election lira slide, tax hikes https://bianet.org/haber/rising-inflation-expected-following-post-election-lira-slide-tax-hikes-285509 [12:06] TR Bot Rising inflation expected following post-election lira slide, tax hikes [12:06] eidolon Talk about religion, this is a theatre, featuring 'plaintiffs' that are 11 and 15 years old. Using children as a political shield and in an appeal to emotion / moral highground is never a good look. [12:12] *agm` (~user@i45w5azn2fgpc.irc) has joined #techrights [12:16] TR News "Raspberry Pi 5 - How much better is it? (I TESTED it)" https://odysee.com/@davidbombal:0/raspberry-pi-5-how-much-better-is-it-(i:1 [12:16] TR News "Raspberry Pi 5 Announced" https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/09/28/1510239 [12:16] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 Announced - SoylentNews [12:16] *MinceR gives voice to agm` [12:16] TR News "Yanis Varoufakis's "Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism?"" https://pluralistic.net/2023/09/28/cloudalists/#cloud-capital [12:16] TR Bot Pluralistic: Yanis Varoufakiss Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism? (28 Sep 2023) Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow [12:17] MinceR yanis varou-fuck-is [12:17] TR News chatcontrol https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=da&tl=en&u=https://www.version2.dk/artikel/tech-giganter-har-i-aarevis-advaret-mod-eus-chatkontrol-end-end-kryptering-er-afgoerende [12:17] TR Bot Tech-giganter har i revis advaret mod EUs chatkontrol: End-to-end-kryptering er afgrende | Version2 [12:18] TR News chatcontrol https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://netzpolitik.org/2023/chatkontrolle-eu-ausschuss-fordert-von-innenkommissarin-aufklaerung-ueber-lobby-verflechtungen/ [12:18] TR Bot Chatkontrolle: EU-Ausschuss fordert von Innenkommissarin Aufklrung ber Lobby-Verflechtungen netzpolitik.org [12:18] TR News Huge ego https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/28/kubecon_shanghai/ http://techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Jim_Zemlin_Thinks_the_World_s_Largest_Software_Company_Has_200_.shtml [12:18] TR Bot Linux Foundation's faux payroll outsizes Microsoft R&D The Register [12:18] TR Bot Techrights Jim Zemlin Thinks the World's Largest Software Company Has 200 Staff, Many of Whom Not Technical at All [12:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [12:24] *oarion7 (~ryan@mfmwu5c33pkb2.irc) has joined #techrights [12:24] *MinceR gives voice to oarion7 [12:47] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [12:49] eidolon https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/27/costco-is-selling-gold-bars-and-they-are-selling-out-within-a-few-hours.html [12:49] TR Bot Costco is selling gold bars and they are selling out within hours [12:50] eidolon I don't suppose there's any chocolate in them. [12:50] MinceR well, what's the point, then? [12:52] eidolon Purity 999.9 Pure Gold (24k) [12:52] eidolon There is a small chance. [12:53] MinceR :> [12:54] MinceR "These Oral Costco dudes are hardcore." [12:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [13:00] *ZedHedTed (~ZedHedTed@be2dj9p83s9eu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:00] TR News "The first reason is that what IMAP clients aren't actually 'sending' the email to your Sent folder" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/IMAPSentFolderIssues | Source: University of Toronto [13:00] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/IMAPSentFolderIssues [13:01] TR News "The first is trying to determine what per-IP ratelimit we should set." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/DNSResolversAndIPRatelimits | Source: University of Toronto [13:01] TR Bot Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/DNSResolversAndIPRatelimits [13:01] *MinceR gives voice to ZedHedTed [13:02] TR News "I recently moved a Time Capsule instance from a FreeBSD host into a jail." https://dan.langille.org/2023/09/28/creating-a-time-capsule-instance-using-samba-freebsd-and-zfs/ | Source: Dan Langille [13:02] TR Bot Creating a Time Capsule instance using Samba, FreeBSD, and ZFS Dan Langille's Other Diary [13:02] TR News ""On the one hand, quality data still matters. A lot of focus on LLM improvement is on model and dataset size https://matt-rickard.com/is-data-still-a-moat | Source: Matt Rickard [13:02] TR Bot Is Data Still a Moat? [13:10] TR News "That felt a bit ex post facto as they say" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/robots-txt/ | Source: Jim Nielsen [13:10] TR Bot Robots.txt - Jim Nielsens Blog [13:11] TR News "First, this is not about jailed ZFS datasets." https://dan.langille.org/2023/09/27/jails-with-embedded-but-not-jailed-zfs-datasets-how-to-mount-umount/ | Source: Dan Langille [13:11] TR Bot Jails with embedded, but not jailed, ZFS datasets how to mount/umount Dan Langille's Other Diary [13:13] TR News "As a technical writer myself, whose job is to explain complex technical concepts to readers in a simple and easy-to-understand way" https://earthly.dev/blog/curse-of-knowledge/ | Source: Earthly [13:13] TR Bot The Curse of Knowledge in Technical Writing - Earthly Blog [13:13] TR News "The term OLAP covers a huge variety of different workloads" https://www.scattered-thoughts.net/writing/a-shallow-survey-of-olap-and-htap-query-engines/ | Source: Jamie Brandon [13:13] TR Bot A shallow survey of OLAP and HTAP query engines [13:14] TR News "SPF is often touted as an anti-spam measure. It isnt." https://mwl.io/archives/23131 | Source: MWL [13:14] TR Bot 14: Competent Spammers Michael W Lucas [13:14] TR News "So canny devs have started looking elsewhere, not least the open source and free game engine Godot." https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/27/unity_install_fee_tycoon/ | Source: The Register UK [13:14] TR Bot Devs learn rival Godot engine in a week just to mock Unity The Register [13:15] TR News "Pop!_OS and COSMIC DE are built to stay out of your way so you can focus on getting things done." https://blog.system76.com/post/cosmic-september-new-window-swapping-mode/ | Source: System76 [13:15] TR Bot COSMIC September: New Window-Swapping Mode! - System76 Blog [13:16] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [13:16] TR News "For more background information on Caml and the Caml Light implementation in particular" https://www.cambus.net/playing-with-caml-light-on-dos/ | Source: Frederic Cambus [13:16] TR Bot Playing with Caml Light on DOS | Frederic Cambus [13:17] TR News "Congratulations to Mageia 9 release in August 2023!" https://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2023/09/download-mageia-9-gnulinux-full-editions-mirrors-torrents-.html | Source: Ubuntubuzz [13:17] TR Bot Download Mageia 9 GNU/Linux Full Editions (Mirrors, Torrents, and Checksums) [13:17] TR News "Starting off, you dont have to worry about permission issues." https://pimylifeup.com/ubuntu-change-username/ | Source: Pi My Life Up [13:17] TR Bot How to Change your Username on Ubuntu - Pi My Life Up [13:18] TR News "Neo6502 modern retro computer software development got nice push by Veselin Sladkov" https://olimex.wordpress.com/2023/09/27/neo6502-now-can-emulate-apple-and-oric-atmos/ | Source: Olimex [13:18] TR Bot Neo6502 now can emulate Apple ][ and Oric Atmos | olimex [13:18] TR News "It recognizes the passing RC car using a DIY break beam sensor." https://blog.arduino.cc/2023/09/28/a-simple-non-contact-lap-timer-for-rc-car-racing/ | Source: Arduino [13:18] TR Bot A simple non-contact lap timer for RC car racing | Arduino Blog [13:18] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@vga34widiu32u.irc) has joined #techrights [13:18] TR News "Today, were delighted to announce the launch of Raspberry Pi 5, coming at the end of October." https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/introducing-raspberry-pi-5/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [13:18] TR Bot Introducing: Raspberry Pi 5! - Raspberry Pi [13:19] *MinceR gives voice to u-amarsh04 [13:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [13:32] TR News "The Pi 5 will also feature a built-in RTC chip." https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-5/ | Source: Pi My Life Up [13:32] TR Bot The Raspberry Pi 5 - Pi My Life Up [13:32] TR News "Also swifter is storage thanks to support for the high-speed SDR104 mode" https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/28/raspberry_pi_5_revealed/ | Source: The Register UK [13:32] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 revealed: faster, but lacks audio jack The Register [13:32] TR News "Overall, the Pi 5 adds a ton of features to the lineup without sacrificing its tiny form factor." https://pimylifeup.com/raspberry-pi-5-vs-4/ | Source: Pi My Life Up [13:32] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 vs Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - Pi My Life Up [13:32] TR News "For the first time, this is a full-size Raspberry Pi computer using silicon built in-house at Raspberry Pi." https://www.sparkfun.com/news/8391 | Source: SparkFun Electronics [13:32] TR Bot the Raspberry Pi 5! - News - SparkFun Electronics [13:32] TR News "It's less than 12 hours since the Pi 5 launch, and already there's a few hundred questions whizzing about" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/answering-some-questions-about-raspberry-pi-5 | Source: Jeff Geerling [13:32] TR Bot Answering some questions about the Raspberry Pi 5 | Jeff Geerling [13:33] TR News "The Raspberry Pi 5 model B preserves the credit-card-sized footprint of the previous generations" https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/testing-pcie-on-raspberry-pi-5 | Source: Jeff Geerling [13:33] TR Bot Testing PCIe on the Raspberry Pi 5 | Jeff Geerling [13:35] MinceR (music) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYscR8xe9ys [13:35] TR Bot https://yt.oelrichsgarcia.de/watch?v=jYscR8xe9ys [13:35] TR Bot yt.oelrichsgarcia.de | Contra - Jungle (Allan Zax remix) - Invidious [13:35] TR News "OpenSSH 9.5 is getting ready for release, so we would appreciate testing on as many platforms and systems as possible. This is a bugfix release." https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2023-September/040962.html | Source: OpenSSH [13:35] TR Bot Call for testing: OpenSSH 9.5 [13:35] TR News "I wanted to write a fun little experimental ActivityPub server." https://flak.tedunangst.com/post/an-aborted-experiment-with-server-swift | Source: Ted Unangst [13:35] TR Bot an aborted experiment with server swift [13:36] TR News "Eich also had about ten years of experience with language design and compiler developer and was explicitly hired by Netscape to put a programming language in the browser (pg 7)." https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/did-brendan-eich-really-make-javascript-in-10-days/ | Source: Buttondown [13:36] TR Bot Was Javascript really made in 10 days? Buttondown [13:36] TR News "I was invited to the 2023 edition of Paris Web as one of two presenters speaking solely English." https://adrianroselli.com/2023/09/paris-web-2023-wcagmire.html | Source: Adriaan Roselli [13:36] TR Bot Paris Web 2023: WCAGmire Adrian Roselli [13:37] TR News "I tried something I havent done before, and I dont regret it" https://two-wrongs.com/custom-tcp-test-harness-in-perl | Source: Chris [13:37] TR Bot Custom TCP Test Harness in Perl [13:38] TR News "Not every computer used/supported 8-bit bytes." https://www.logikalsolutions.com/wordpress/information-technology/trigraphs/ | Source: Logikal Solutions [13:38] TR Bot Trigraphs and Digraphs Logikal Blog [13:38] TR News "The other thing I learned is that the entity ' is not defined for HTML 4" https://boston.conman.org/2023/09/26.1 | Source: Sean Conner [13:38] TR Bot To err is humanto really mess up takes a computer - The Boston Diaries - Captain Napalm [13:40] TR News "On September 28, 2003, a group of friends in New Zealand uploaded a bittorrent file to distribute their homemade fan film, an amateur tribute to The Matrix" https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5bmy/the-oldest-active-torrent-on-the-internet-is-20-years-old-today-and-it-rules | Source: Vice Media Group [13:40] TR Bot The Oldest Active Torrent on the Internet Is 20 Years Old Today, and It Rules [13:40] TR News "Many of the more than 20,000 described species of trilobites, a group that existed between 520 million and 252 million years ago, were prominent members of marine ecosystems." https://www.sciencenews.org/article/trilobite-fossil-hints-scavengers-ate | Source: Science News [13:40] TR Bot A one-of-a-kind trilobite fossil hints at what and how these creatures ate [13:42] TR News "By now, you ought to know the drill." https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/slimbook-titan-report-1.html | Source: Dedoimedo [13:42] TR Bot Slimbook Titan, long-term usage report 1 [13:43] TR News "We've posted our Raspberry Pi 5 review and praised the new king of single-board computers for its performance, functionality and value." https://www.tomshardware.com/news/live/raspberry-pi-5-launch | Source: Tom's Hardware [13:43] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 Live Blog: Whole New Board, Whole New Ecosystem | Tom's Hardware [13:43] TR News "Raspberry Pi 5 is faster and more powerful than prior-generation Raspberry Pis" https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/ | Source: Raspberry Pi [13:43] TR Bot Raspberry Pi 5 Raspberry Pi [13:43] TR News "For the first time, this is a full-size Raspberry Pi computer using silicon built in-house at Raspberry Pi." https://datasheets.raspberrypi.com/rpi5/raspberry-pi-5-product-brief.pdf | [13:43] TR News "Here's the new Raspberry Pi 5 compared to the previous generation." https://blog.alexellis.io/first-impressions-with-the-raspberry-pi-5/ | Source: Alex Ellis [13:43] TR Bot First Impressions with the Raspberry Pi 5 [13:44] TR News "Researchers with Censys, a service that indexes devices connected to the [Internet] and the services theyre running" https://cyberscoop.com/open-directories-exposed-files/ | Source: Scoop News Group [13:44] TR Bot of files with potentially sensitive information exposed online, researchers say | CyberScoop [13:45] TR News "The amazement continues. I had not complained, not questioned the answer, not emitted any doubt or criticism" https://bertrandmeyer.com/2023/09/28/ai-will-move-mountains/ | Source: Bertrand Meyer [13:45] TR Bot Bertrand Meyer's technology+ blog Blog Archive AI will move mountains - Bertrand Meyer's technology+ blog [13:45] TR News "In June, news broke that a final Beatles recording would soon become available" https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-09-28/ringo-starr-on-rewind-forward-writing-country-music-the-ai-assisted-final-beatles-track-and-more.html | Source: El Pas [13:45] TR Bot Ringo Starr on Rewind Forward, writing country music, the AI-assisted final Beatles track and more | Culture | EL PAS English [13:45] TR News "Under the hood, its just crypto (as in cryptography)." https://matt-rickard.com/passkeys-crypto-and-signing-ai | Source: Matt Rickard [13:45] TR Bot Passkeys, Crypto, and Signing AI Content [13:46] TR News ""An artificial intelligence model currently being developed by the Government Accountability Office could one day be used to do things like pull information https://fedscoop.com/gao-in-experimentation-phase-with-ai-model-to-query-reports-inform-its-work/ | Source: Scoop News Group [13:46] TR Bot in experimentation phase with AI model to query reports, inform its work | FedScoop [13:47] TR News Windows TCO https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cyberattacks-parliament-india-1.6981399 | Source: CBC [13:47] TR Bot Cyberattacks hit military, Parliament websites as India-based group targets Canada | CBC News [13:47] TR News Windows TCO https://www.securityweek.com/us-state-department-says-60000-emails-taken-in-alleged-chinese-hack/ | Source: Security Week [13:47] TR Bot State Department Says 60,000 Emails Taken in Alleged Chinese Hack - SecurityWeek [13:48] TR News "Our nationally representative survey of 1,556 people run in August 2023 found that 10% of people who bought from Amazon in the previous 12 months had received a note or card in the packaging" https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/one-in-10-amazon-customers-offered-bribes-for-positive-reviews-aUARn0z1qLUu | Source: WhichUK [13:48] TR Bot One in 10 Amazon customers offered bribes for positive reviews - Which? News [13:48] TR News "The Norwegian regulator, Datatilsynet, is now referring its decision to the European Data Protection Board" https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/norway-asks-eu-regulator-to-fine-facebook-owner-meta-over-privacy-breach/articleshow/104017677.cms | Source: India Times [13:48] TR Bot meta: Norway asks EU regulator to fine Facebook owner Meta over privacy breach - The Economic Times [13:54] TR News "The first immediate consequence is that a digital footprint is created for the minor." https://english.elpais.com/technology/2023-09-28/from-sharenting-to-cybersecurity-why-sharing-your-childrens-information-on-social-media-poses-serious-risks.html | Source: El Pas [13:54] TR Bot From sharenting to cybersecurity: Why sharing your childrens information on social media poses serious risks | Technology | EL PAS English [13:54] TR News "The Polish ruling party (PiS) pretended nothing had happened." https://edri.org/our-work/polish-senate-calls-pegasus-illegal-and-demands-scrutiny-over-secret-services/ | Source: EDRI [13:54] TR Bot Polish Senate calls Pegasus illegal - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [13:54] *ZedHedTed has quit (Quit: leaving) [13:54] *ZedHedTed (~ZedHedTed@be2dj9p83s9eu.irc) has joined #techrights [13:54] TR News "The Democratic majority of a presidentially appointed privacy watchdog recommended in a report issued Thursday that Congress overhaul a controversial surveillance law to require court approval for searches of data belonging to U.S. persons." https://cyberscoop.com/pclob-section-702-court-approval/ | Source: Scoop News Group [13:54] TR Bot watchdog recommends court approval for FBI searches of spy data | CyberScoop [13:55] TR News "Aside from indexing supposedly private Bard conversations, the AI bot's conversation URLs are being used as snippets to answer common search queries." https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/private-conversations-google-bard-appear-google-search-how-stop-it-1720059 | Source: International Business Times [13:55] TR Bot Private Conversations With Google Bard Appear On Google Search, How To Stop It? | IBTimes UK [13:55] *MinceR gives voice to ZedHedTed [13:58] TR News "On July 27, the US grid served nearly 15 million megawatt-hours of electricity across the lower 48 states" https://www.vox.com/climate/23893057/power-electricity-grid-heat-wave-record-blackout-outage-climate | Source: Vox [13:58] TR Bot US power grid quietly survived record summer heat waves without outages - Vox [13:58] TR News "The recent reversals on electric vehicles, energy efficiency and the rumoured shrinking of HS2 is a slap in the face to the companies and investors" https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/sustainability/climate/2023/09/net-zero-climate-leadership-gains-losses | Source: New Statesman [13:58] TR Bot Net zero climb-down sacrifices Britains climate leadership for short-term gain - New Statesman [13:58] TR News "In its ninth day, the student occupation is a protest against Prime Minister Petteri Orpo's (NCP) government's planned austerity measures" https://yle.fi/a/74-20052362 | Source: YLE [13:58] TR Bot Helsinki University occupiers allowed to stay during defence event with president | News | Yle Uutiset [13:58] TR News "According to Li Zhanyan, chairman of NFCA, the company plans to invest about 400 million U.S. dollars and increase its annual copper production" https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Zambia-Chinese-Mining-Firm-to-Boost-Industry-More-Investment-20230927-0015.html | Source: teleSUR [13:58] TR Bot NO TITLE [13:59] TR News "Alas, this understandable effort by NSA staff has become the keystone in a bizarre theory that Satoshi Nakamoto is an alias for the NSA" https://blog.dshr.org/2023/09/the-bitcoin-lab-leak-theory.html | Source: David Rosenthal [13:59] TR Bot DSHR's Blog: The Bitcoin "Lab Leak" Theory [13:59] TR News "Patreon has no meaningful competitors, and also it sucks" https://www.jwz.org/blog/2023/09/how-to-compete-with-patreon/ | Source: Jamie Zawinski [13:59] TR Bot jwz: How to Compete with Patreon [13:59] *ubuntourist (~kjcole@freenode-1fl.pg2.9evlp0.IP) has joined #techrights ● Sep 29 [14:00] TR News "The videogame company will also spin-off most of SuperAwesome, which Epic Games acquired in 2020." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/epic-games-is-laying-off-roughly-900-employees/articleshow/104024157.cms | Source: India Times [14:00] TR Bot epic games: Epic Games is laying off about 830 employees, divesting Bandcamp - The Economic Times [14:00] TR News "Rumors have circulated that Epic would implement job cuts this year" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/fortnite-creator-epic-games-cuts-nearly-900-jobs/ | Source: Digital Music News [14:00] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/fortnite-creator-epic-games-cuts-nearly-900-jobs/ ) [14:00] TR News "The sale of Bandcamp and the spinoff of SuperAwesome will reduce Epics team size by around 250 individuals" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/songtradr-bandcamp-acquisition/ | Source: Digital Music News [14:00] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/28/songtradr-bandcamp-acquisition/ ) [14:00] *ubuntourist is now known as Guest35625 [14:01] TR News "The sale was announced in tandem with the news that Epic Games is laying off 16 percent of its workforce" https://pitchfork.com/news/epic-games-sells-bandcamp-amid-layoffs/ | Source: Cond Nast [14:01] TR Bot Games Sells Bandcamp Amid Layoffs | Pitchfork [14:01] TR News "The government is likely to ask Nadella about Microsoft's efforts to expand the reach of Edge and Bing," https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/google-antitrust-trial-microsoft-ceo-satya-nadella-to-testify-on-monday/articleshow/104031824.cms | Source: India Times [14:01] TR Bot google antitrust trial: Google antitrust trial: Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella to testify on Monday - The Economic Times [14:02] TR News Fraudster bags taxpayers' money https://www.vice.com/en/article/93kzaa/elon-musk-just-won-another-massive-military-contractthis-time-for-satellites | Source: Vice Media Group [14:02] TR Bot Elon Musk Just Won Another Massive Military ContractThis Time, for Satellites [14:02] TR News "The letters Z and V that have become the symbols of Russias war in Ukraine have been largely eradicated from Latvias public space" https://www.lrt.lt/en/news-in-english/19/2086463/latvia-asks-to-report-russian-war-propaganda-symbols-on-cars | Source: LRT [14:02] TR Bot Latvia asks to report Russian war propaganda symbols on cars - LRT [14:03] *jacobk (~quassel@habvwfkcud3qc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:03] TR News "Released Thursday by the State Departments Global Engagement Center, which is tasked with countering foreign propaganda" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/disinformation-propaganda-report-09282023162711.html | Source: RFA [14:03] TR Bot US diplomat: Were in an undeclared information war Radio Free Asia [14:04] TR News "Chinese authorities maintain a tight grip on Tibet" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/tibet/twice-arrested-09272023173739.html | Source: RFA [14:04] TR Bot Authorities arrest Tibetan man twice for possessing Dalai Lama photo Radio Free Asia [14:04] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [14:04] TR News "The hearing lasted less than three hours" https://www.rfa.org/english/news/vietnam/vietnam-activist-sentenced-09282023002416.html | Source: RFA [14:04] TR Bot Vietnamese activist sentenced to 3 years in prison Radio Free Asia [14:05] TR News ""80 media, journalists, and human and digital rights organisations are calling on MEPs to ensure that the regulation achieves what it set out to do by including a full ban on the use of spyware against journalists. https://edri.org/our-work/open-letter-european-parliament-protect-journalists-ban-spyware-emfa/ | Source: EDRI [14:05] TR Bot Open Letter: European Parliament must protect journalists and ban spyware in the European Media Freedom Act - European Digital Rights (EDRi) [14:05] TR News "Among the speakers at the Media Freedom in Hong Kong event in Geneva on Wednesday was Sebastien Lai, the son of detained media mogul Jimmy Lai." https://hongkongfp.com/2023/09/28/son-of-media-tycoon-jimmy-lai-speaks-at-un-event-on-media-freedom-as-hong-kong-slams-political-manipulation/ | Source: Hong Kong Free Press [14:05] TR Bot Son of media tycoon Jimmy Lai speaks at UN event on media freedom, as Hong Kong slams 'political manipulation' - Hong Kong Free Press HKFP [14:05] TR News "Authorities have previously detained Tolchyn multiple times and fined him in connection to his work." https://cpj.org/2023/09/belarus-detains-journalist-andrei-tolchyn-on-extremism-charges/ | Source: CPJ [14:05] TR Bot Belarus detains journalist Andrei Tolchyn on extremism charges - Committee to Protect Journalists [14:06] TR News "It joins a growing list of unions formed by graduate student workers at American universities and also continues efforts initiated by the Graduate Student Council last year." https://stanforddaily.com/2023/09/27/an-inside-look-at-graduate-student-unionization/ | Source: uni Stanford [14:06] TR Bot An inside look at graduate student unionization [14:06] TR News "The decision by New York Acting Supreme Court Justice Nicholas Moyne will allow the law to take effect pending the outcome of the companies' lawsuit." https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/uber-doordash-lose-bid-to-block-nyc-minimum-wage-for-delivery-workers/articleshow/104025538.cms | Source: India Times [14:06] TR Bot Uber: Uber, DoorDash lose bid to block NYC minimum wage for delivery workers - The Economic Times [14:07] TR News economictimes [14:07] TR News ""The authority said its operation this week followed a broader inquiry into the cloud-computing sector https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/french-competition-authority-raids-nvidias-offices-for-anticompetitive-practices-report/articleshow/104032029.cms | Source: India Times [14:08] TR Bot nvidia france raid: French competition authority raids Nvidia's offices for anticompetitive practices: report - The Economic Times [14:08] TR News "For too long, ticket sellers have employed deceptive fees and practices to maximize profits at consumers expense." https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/27/boss-and-swift-act-us-senate-ticket-prices/ | Source: Digital Music News [14:08] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/27/boss-and-swift-act-us-senate-ticket-prices/ ) [14:08] TR News "According to the Euro nation's media, on Tuesday French authorities conducted an unannounced visit and seizure operation on the chip giant's office" https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/28/french_competition_authority_raids_nvidias/ | Source: The Register UK [14:08] TR Bot French authorities raid Nvidia office amid cloud inquiry The Register [14:08] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:09] TR News "No matter how well-intended (and we all know to which place the road leads that is paved with good intentions!)" https://bjoern.brembs.net/2023/09/no-evilsevier-deal/ | Source: Bjoern Brembs [14:09] TR Bot bjoern.brembs.blog No Evilsevier DEAL! [14:09] TR News "Specifically, during upload the ResearchGate platform will check rights information for ACS and Elsevier published content and immediately determine how the content can be shared on the site." https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/publishers-settle-copyright-infringement-lawsuit-with-researchgate/4018095.article | Source: Royal Society Of Chemistry [14:09] TR Bot Publishers settle copyright infringement lawsuit with ResearchGate | News | Chemistry World [14:10] TR News "What are the rules for AI? The role that artificial intelligence will play in the music industry is still being cemented as 2023 comes to a close" https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/26/rules-for-ai-mini-conference-dmn/ | Source: Digital Music News [14:10] TR Bot ( status 520 @ https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2023/09/26/rules-for-ai-mini-conference-dmn/ ) [14:10] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/23092649 [14:10] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [14:10] TR News "This blog has written many times about the public domain, and its central importance to creativity" https://walledculture.org/copyrights-legal-stranglehold-on-creativity-has-made-putting-works-into-the-public-domain-absurdly-hard/ | Source: Walled Culture [14:10] TR Bot stream 1 was not closed cleanly: PROTOCOL_ERROR (err 1) ( status 0 @ https://walledculture.org/copyrights-legal-stranglehold-on-creativity-has-made-putting-works-into-the-public-domain-absurdly-hard/ ) [14:11] TR News "Those AI models can end up aping the writers they were trained on" https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/29/medium_ai_crawlers/ | Source: The Register UK [14:11] TR Bot Medium hopes to stop AI bot crawlers from scraping content The Register [14:11] *jacobk (~quassel@habvwfkcud3qc.irc) has joined #techrights [14:12] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [14:17] TR News Turing Complete programming https://hackaday.com/2023/09/29/turing-complete-programming-on-arm-with-two-instructions/ | Source: Hackaday [14:17] TR Bot Complete Programming On ARM With Two Instructions | Hackaday [14:17] TR News rust https://hackaday.com/2023/09/29/building-a-weather-display-in-rust/ | Source: Hackaday [14:17] TR Bot A Weather Display In Rust | Hackaday [14:18] TR News "Weve spilled a great deal of ink discussing the GDPR and its failures and unintended consequences." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/28/the-group-claiming-to-have-hacked-sony-is-using-gdpr-as-a-weapon-for-demanding-ransoms/ | Source: Techdirt [14:18] TR Bot Group Claiming To Have Hacked Sony Is Using GDPR As A Weapon For Demanding Ransoms | Techdirt [14:18] TR News "Accessing consensually created and distributed online pornography is a human right." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/28/porn-is-a-human-right/ | Source: Techdirt [14:18] TR Bot Is A Human Right | Techdirt [14:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [14:20] TR News "On Tuesday, the Federal Trade Commission and 17 states filed a sweeping antitrust lawsuit against Amazon" https://www.democracynow.org/2023/9/28/david_dayen_amazon_uaw_menendez | Source: Democracy Now [14:20] TR Bot David Dayen: Amazon & Google Antitrust Cases Highlight Newfound Vigor in D.C. to Fight Monopolies | Democracy Now! [14:21] TR News dhs https://papersplease.org/wp/2023/09/28/dhs-uses-travel-as-pretext-for-search-of-researcher-and-journalist/ | Source: Papers Please [14:21] TR Bot DHS uses travel as pretext for search of researcher and journalist Papers, Please! [14:22] TR News "The top legal advisor to Europe's highest court says that the retention and disclosure of suspected pirates' identifying information is compatible with EU privacy laws" https://torrentfreak.com/disclosure-of-pirates-identities-compatible-with-eu-privacy-laws-230929/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:22] TR Bot of Pirates' Identities "Compatible With EU Privacy Laws" * TorrentFreak [14:22] TR News "Several authors including Paul Tremblay, Mona Awad and comedian Sarah Silverman have responded to OpenAI's request to dismiss several infringement copyright claims." https://torrentfreak.com/authors-openais-fair-use-argument-in-copyright-dispute-is-misplaced-230928/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:22] TR Bot OpenAI's Fair Use Argument in Copyright Dispute is Misplaced * TorrentFreak [14:23] TR News "Two men who sold piracy-configured set-top boxes and provided access to pirate IPTV services have been sentenced at Belfast Crown Court." https://torrentfreak.com/two-pirate-iptv-sellers-sentenced-following-sky-investigation-230928/ | Source: Torrent Freak [14:23] TR Bot Pirate IPTV Sellers Sentenced Following Sky Investigation * TorrentFreak [14:23] TR News "Recent industry news doing the rounds is from Epic Games, who yesterday publicly shared an email that was sent by Tim Sweeney about laying off 16% of the company." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/09/epic-games-sheds-830-people-due-to-spending-more-than-they-earn/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [14:23] TR Bot Games sheds 830 people due to 'spending way more money than we earn' | GamingOnLinux [14:24] TR News "HeroCraft PC announced that due to licensing Warhammer 40,000: Space Wolf is set to be delisted on October 11th" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/09/warhammer-40000-space-wolf-being-delisted-grab-it-quick-in-this-bundle/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [14:24] TR Bot 40,000: Space Wolf being delisted so grab it quick in this bundle | GamingOnLinux [14:24] TR News How to Install Rancher on Rocky Linux 9 / AlmaLinux 9 https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-rancher-on-rockylinux-almalinux/ | Source: LinuxTechi [14:24] TR Bot How to Install Rancher on Rocky Linux 9 / AlmaLinux 9 [14:25] TR News "EA (Electronic Arts) are continuing to expand their home-grown EA Anti-Cheat" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/09/ea-expanding-ea-anti-cheat-bad-news-for-steam-deck-linux/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [14:25] TR Bot expanding EA Anti-Cheat - bad news for Steam Deck / Linux | GamingOnLinux [14:25] TR News "Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor is an upcoming spin-off of the very popular online co-op mining action game Deep Rock Galactic" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/09/check-out-the-awesome-demo-of-deep-rock-galactic-survivor/ | Source: GamingOnLinux [14:25] TR Bot out the awesome demo of Deep Rock Galactic: Survivor | GamingOnLinux [14:25] TR News "If you are looking to replace Microsoft Teams and need a reliable tool for internal communication among the members of your team" https://www.tecmint.com/install-mattermost-with-onlyoffice-linux/ | Source: TecMint [14:25] TR Bot How to Install and Integrate Mattermost with ONLYOFFICE Docs [14:26] *agm` has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [14:27] eidolon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=MWX7Hxbrg7Q D; [14:27] TR News VLC https://www.tecmint.com/install-vlc-player-in-ubuntu-debian-linux-mint/ | Source: TecMint https://www.tecmint.com/install-vlc-media-player-in-rhel-centos-fedora/ [14:27] TR Bot Samurai (English Version) - Invidious [14:27] TR Bot How to Install VLC in Debian, Ubuntu, and Linux Mint [14:27] TR Bot How to Install VLC Media Player in RHEL-based Systems [14:27] TR News 6 Best Linux Apps for Downloading Movie Subtitles https://www.tecmint.com/best-linux-movie-subtitles-player-software/ | Source: TecMint [14:27] TR Bot 6 Best Linux Apps for Downloading Movie Subtitles in 2023 [14:28] TR News "Updates in this weeks snapshots brought numerous changes, bug fixes and improved functionality." https://news.opensuse.org/2023/09/29/tw-gets-systemd-boot-support/ | Source: OpenSUSE [14:28] TR Bot Tumbleweed Gets systemd-boot Support - openSUSE News [14:29] TR News "Over the past decade, fintechs have already driven enhanced access to financial services for retail users." https://ubuntu.com//blog/digital-innovation-in-finance-the-open-source-imperative | Source: Ubuntu [14:29] TR Bot innovation in finance the open source imperative | Ubuntu [14:31] TR News "[mircemk] had previously built a frequency counter using an Arduino, with a useful range up to 6 MHz." https://hackaday.com/2023/09/28/simple-stm32-frequency-meter-handles-up-to-30mhz-with-ease/ | Source: Hackaday [14:31] TR Bot STM32 Frequency Meter Handles Up To 30MHz With Ease | Hackaday [14:31] TR News $20 Oscilloscope https://hackaday.com/2023/09/28/fixing-a-c64-with-a-cheap-20-oscilloscope/ | Source: Hackaday [14:31] TR Bot A C64 With A Cheap $20 Oscilloscope | Hackaday [14:32] TR News clearview https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/28/oversight-report-finds-several-federal-agencies-are-still-using-clearviews-facial-recognition-tech/ | Source: Techdirt [14:32] TR Bot Report Finds Several Federal Agencies Are Still Using Clearviews Facial Recognition Tech | Techdirt [14:42] TR News "The UAEs new cybercrime law further restricts the already heavily-monitored online space" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/growing-threat-cybercrime-law-abuse-lgbtq-rights-mena-and-un-cybercrime-draft | Source: EFF [14:42] TR Bot The Growing Threat of Cybercrime Law Abuse: LGBTQ+ Rights in MENA and the UN Cybercrime Draft Convention | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:44] TR News "The Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board (PCLOB) has released its much-anticipated report on Section 702" https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/federal-governments-privacy-watchdog-concedes-702-must-change | Source: EFF [14:44] TR Bot The Federal Governments Privacy Watchdog Concedes: 702 Must Change | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:46] TR News "If you use Chrome, you can disable this feature through a series of three confusing settings." https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/how-turn-googles-privacy-sandbox-ad-tracking-and-why-you-should | Source: EFF [14:46] TR Bot How To Turn Off Googles Privacy Sandbox Ad Trackingand Why You Should | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:47] eidolon Turn it off? [14:48] eidolon That should be the wake-up call. [14:50] eidolon On the other hand, what can you do, others are suggesting Firefox as a saving grace. [14:52] MinceR failfox doesn't help either [14:52] TR News "When it comes to the early implementation of AI, its generally been the human beings that are the real problem." https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/28/silicon-valley-starts-hiring-poets-to-fix-shitty-writing-by-undercooked-ai/ | Source: Techdirt [14:52] TR Bot Valley Starts Hiring Poets To Fix Shitty Writing By Undercooked AI | Techdirt [14:52] TR News "liked" https://www.techdirt.com/2023/09/28/elon-fires-half-of-extwitters-election-integrity-team-because-a-manager-liked-a-tweet-calling-him-a-fucking-dipshit/ | Source: Techdirt [14:52] TR Bot Fires Half Of ExTwitters Election Integrity Team, Because A Manager Liked A Tweet Calling Him A Fucking Dipshit | Techdirt [14:53] MinceR among other things, mozilla is using it to push PoetteringAudio/CrackPipeWire, DRM and Pocket [14:55] TR News censored https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/eff-dc-circuit-animal-rights-activists-shouldnt-be-censored-government-social | Source: EFF [14:55] TR Bot EFF to D.C. Circuit: Animal Rights Activists Shouldnt Be Censored on Government Social Media Pages Because Agency Disagrees With Their Viewpoint | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:55] TR News censorship https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/get-real-congress-censoring-search-results-or-recommendations-still-censorship | Source: EFF [14:55] TR Bot Get Real, Congress: Censoring Search Results or Recommendations Is Still Censorship | Electronic Frontier Foundation [14:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 [14:59] eidolon Yeah, so far it is not pulling in any pulse/pipewire in this build. ● Sep 29 [15:00] eidolon I won't have it. [15:00] MinceR it's probably better on OpenBSD anyway, as that's basically sndio or the highway [15:01] psydruid lol, now Firefox is trying to be helpful by offering to translate web pages using a pop-up [15:13] ZedHedTed i swore off FF for the longest time, but i don't think they make Librewolf for macs, so i'm stuck w/ it at work [15:19] eidolon 'AI' doing shitty dadaism and cut-up technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-up_technique [15:19] TR Bot Cut-up technique - Wikipedia [15:19] eidolon they got to bring in the beatniks to clean it up a little? [15:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [15:21] psydruid I only use FF for media streams while using Falkon as my main browser [15:27] TR News Mayorkas warns Latin American leaders of Beijings technology influence https://cyberscoop.com/mayorkas-latin-america-china/ [15:27] TR Bot warns Latin American leaders of Beijing's technology influence | CyberScoop [15:27] TR News US diplomat: Were in an undeclared information war https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/disinformation-propaganda-report-09282023162711.html [15:27] TR Bot US diplomat: Were in an undeclared information war Radio Free Asia [15:28] TR News (NEW): GNOME: Cambalache 0.16.0 and Flatseal 2.1.0 Released http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/GNOME_Cambalache_0_16_0_and_Flatseal_2_1_0_Released.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/GNOME_Cambalache_0_16_0_and_Flatseal_2_1_0_Released.gmi [15:28] TR Bot Tux Machines GNOME: Cambalache 0.16.0 and Flatseal 2.1.0 Released [15:28] TR News (NEW): Tumbleweed Gets systemd-boot Support http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Tumbleweed_Gets_systemd_boot_Support.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Tumbleweed_Gets_systemd_boot_Support.gmi [15:28] TR Bot Tux Machines Tumbleweed Gets systemd-boot Support [15:29] TR News (NEW): : Google Android Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Android_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Android_Leftovers.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Android Leftovers [15:29] TR News (NEW): Games: Unity, Epic, Warhammer, and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Games_Unity_Epic_Warhammer_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Games_Unity_Epic_Warhammer_and_More.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Games: Unity, Epic, Warhammer, and More [15:29] TR News (NEW): Open Hardware: Arduino and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Open_Hardware_Arduino_and_More.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Open Hardware: Arduino and More [15:29] TR News (NEW): Today's HowTos http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/today_s_howtos.2.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines today's howtos [15:29] TR News (NEW): Security: Microsoft Breaches and More http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Security_Microsoft_Breaches_and_More.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Security_Microsoft_Breaches_and_More.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Security: Microsoft Breaches and More [15:29] TR News (NEW): Programming Leftovers http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Programming_Leftovers.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Programming Leftovers [15:29] TR News (NEW): Call for testing: OpenSSH 9.5 http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Call_for_testing_OpenSSH_9_5.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/29/Call_for_testing_OpenSSH_9_5.gmi [15:29] TR Bot Tux Machines Call for testing: OpenSSH 9.5 [15:30] TR News Techrights iFixit Requests DMCA ExemptionTo Figure Out #HowTo Repair McDonalds Ice Cream Machines http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/iFixit_Requests_DMCA_Exemption_To_Figure_Out_How_To_Repair_McDo.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/iFixit_Requests_DMCA_Exemption_To_Figure_Out_How_To_Repair_McDo.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Techrights iFixit Requests DMCA ExemptionTo Figure Out How To Repair McDonalds Ice Cream Machines [15:30] TR News Techrights Jim Zemlin Thinks the World's Largest Software Company Has 200 Staff, Many of Whom Not Technical at All http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Jim_Zemlin_Thinks_the_World_s_Largest_Software_Company_Has_200_.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Jim_Zemlin_Thinks_the_World_s_Largest_Software_Company_Has_200_.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Techrights Jim Zemlin Thinks the World's Largest Software Company Has 200 Staff, Many of Whom Not Technical at All [15:30] TR News Techrights Links 29/09/2023: Disinformation and Monopolies http://news.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Links_29_09_2023_Disinformation_and_Monopolies.shtml | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2023/09/29/Links_29_09_2023_Disinformation_and_Monopolies.gmi [15:30] TR Bot Techrights Links 29/09/2023: Disinformation and Monopolies [15:31] ZedHedTed Falkon? isn't that one kind of minimal? i like surf, which is also minimal, but that's 1 of its main purposes. [15:31] TR News Hypocrisy https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/us-accuses-china-of-global-media-manipulation [15:31] TR Bot US accuses China of global media manipulation | The Straits Times [15:31] schestowitz falkon is not minimal [15:32] ZedHedTed surf is so lightweight that i can browse the web w/ it when it's running on a remote host over SSH. [15:32] MinceR falkon is animal [15:36] eidolon mineral? [15:36] MinceR :) [15:36] *Guest35625 has quit (Connection closed) [15:45] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/23092633 [15:45] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [15:47] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [15:54] XRevan86 Hiding the usernames really did something, yep. [15:54] XRevan86 https://x.com/sloprules/status/1597930926474162178 https://x.com/sloprules/status/1597954006709850112 [15:54] TR Bot response [15:54] TR Bot response [15:54] MinceR :) ● Sep 29 [16:00] *amber has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [16:09] admfubar https://www.osnews.com/story/137294/apple-held-talks-with-microsoft-about-acquiring-bing-in-2020/ [16:09] TR Bot held talks with Microsoft about acquiring Bing in 2020 OSnews [16:15] admfubar https://techxplore.com/news/2023-09-tape-lithium-ion-batteries-battery-degradation.html [16:15] TR Bot Replacing tape used to make lithium-ion batteries could slow battery degradation and reduce self-discharge [16:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [16:20] TR News eurogamer [16:21] TR News "Epic has confirmed reports of widespread layoffs at the company..." https://www.eurogamer.net/epic-games-is-reportedly-laying-off-900-employees https://decrypt.co/199202/fortnite-maker-epic-games-cuts-830-staff-ceo-calls-layoffs-only-way [16:21] TR Bot Games is reportedly laying off around 900 employees | Eurogamer.net [16:21] TR Bot Fortnite Maker Epic Games Cuts 830 Staff as CEO Calls Layoffs 'Only Way' - Decrypt [16:22] TR News US FTC Revives Microsoft-Activision Deal Challenge https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-27/us-ftc-revives-microsoft-activision-deal-challenge [16:22] TR Bot - Are you a robot? 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Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [18:28] *jacobk (~quassel@99ed6ukzxymmc.irc) has joined #techrights [18:40] *MinceR gives voice to jacobk [18:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [19:18] *amber (~luca@freenode-5t6geo.gd0e.mtf1.jail8p.IP) has joined #techrights [19:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [19:49] *jacobk has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [19:55] DaemonFC 06. Money.dsf: [19:55] DaemonFC original md5 signature: 4ea9b7ec0d1884a4279c7b285e5ad522 [19:55] DaemonFC created 06. Money.wv in 54.41 secs (lossless, 45.14%) [19:55] DaemonFC Money. It's a hit. [19:56] DaemonFC Don't give me that do goody good bullshit. [19:58] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/23091518 [19:58] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [19:58] DaemonFC DSD is hard enough to play on Linux. [19:58] DaemonFC Much less work with on a digital audio workstation. [19:58] DaemonFC Something probably supports it. [19:59] DaemonFC You can convert PCM into DSD if you really want to, some people do. Not sure why you would. ● Sep 29 [20:02] DaemonFC MinceR: How can there be a Golden Earring release to SACD and they didn't even put Twilight Zone on it? [20:02] DaemonFC What kind of a monster doesn't put the one EVERYONE knows on the album? [20:03] DaemonFC schestowitz: I was doing this one on Mandy's friend's karaoke machine. [20:04] DaemonFC I don't even need the lyrics at this point. [20:04] DaemonFC There was a 12" mix on vinyl. I got it into WavPack a while back. [20:04] DaemonFC The record was not in bad shape from the thrift shop. [20:06] *libertybox__ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:07] DaemonFC It was sealed. Nobody ever listened to it. Sometimes improper storage can still warp the thing. [20:07] DaemonFC Like someone put it in a hot attic for 30 years. [20:07] *jacobk (~quassel@6wygwq2t5e2hw.irc) has joined #techrights [20:09] *DaemonFC gives voice to jacobk [20:09] *amber has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [20:09] DaemonFC It's a real shame when you get something that's never been used and it's ruined anyway through improper storage. [20:11] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:12] DaemonFC One reason they don't put any garbage on SACD is you can't market it to younger people anyway. [20:13] DaemonFC $35-50 per disc you can't put this stuff on it. [20:13] *schestowitz-TR has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [20:14] DaemonFC If you don't have the budget for SACD but also don't want to look through a lot of music that isn't a "safe bet", then you can use the list of what's been published on SACD as a cheat sheet to go shopping for CDs or MP3s or something. [20:14] DaemonFC They've already done the hard work for you of figuring out who would pay a lot of money for a good transfer. [20:15] DaemonFC SACD sort of lines up with the stuff I listen to anyway. [20:15] DaemonFC There's a huge cliff after the early 2000s where you basically aren't going to find that on SACD even though they still press the discs. Anything after that is probably a new pressing of classical or jazz, or some remaster of something older. [20:16] DaemonFC I really didn't think about Napster and what it meant for music after, that era. Where it becomes impossible to make any money from publishing on a major record label, so they don't sign anyone good. [20:17] DaemonFC They sign people who aren't any good, who will fill Spotify and Apple Music with crap, cheaply. [20:17] DaemonFC Who will work for next to nothing. [20:17] DaemonFC If you're not in the Top 10 on Spotify you're not going to get rich. [20:18] *ZedHedTed has quit (Quit: leaving) [20:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [20:23] *amber (~luca@freenode-fat.jrk.er6fp8.IP) has joined #techrights [20:26] DaemonFC schestowitz: So, it's interesting isn't it, how much effort they put into things when technology was primitive and there was hardly even any way to get this vision onto a recording. Movies are like that too. [20:26] DaemonFC Now that they have technology that can make everything look totally right and can do it cheaply, they squander it on horrible stuff. [20:27] DaemonFC The movie industry used to be like this. Movies would turn into this, like, black hole for money and they'd go hugely over budget but they knew it would perform well and they'd be selling it for years. [20:28] *libertybox has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:28] *libertybox_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:28] DaemonFC Like, James Cameron kept going tens of millions of dollars over budget, at a time, on T2, and the company backing the production didn't argue with him about it. They just kept paying the bills and they ended up making their investment back like 20 times over by now. [20:29] DaemonFC Five times at the theaters alone, when tickets were like $2-3. [20:30] DaemonFC Now they dump hundreds of millions into something like Avatar 2 and declare it a runaway success if they make less than double what they put into it. [20:31] *jrmu has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) [20:31] *psymin (~psymin@me3biw7mdts84.irc) has joined #techrights [20:31] *psymin (~psymin@user/psymin) has joined #techrights [20:34] *DaemonFC gives voice to psymin [20:34] DaemonFC They sunk a lot of money just into "digital Moff Tarkin" in Rogue One. [20:34] DaemonFC And it looks very unsettling. [20:35] DaemonFC You can see how he doesn't move right, how there's no person behind the eyes. [20:35] DaemonFC The whole scene was done as sort of a prototype and it shows, and it's going to be in that movie forever. [20:51] *ZedHedTed (~ZedHedTed@tvgmv2wv7t6bw.irc) has joined #techrights [20:55] *amber has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) [20:57] *MinceR gives voice to ZedHedTed [20:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [21:16] prurigro anyone know what techwrongs.org was? site seems to be down now, but it came up in some search results and the cache makes it look like a mirror of techrights [21:16] admfubar naw they can redo him whenever they want... [21:16] admfubar https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/09/28/2227239/reddit-is-removing-ability-to-opt-out-of-ad-personalization-based-on-your-activity [21:16] TR Bot Reddit Is Removing Ability To Opt Out of Ad Personalization Based On Your Activity - Slashdot [21:16] prurigro people still use reddit? [21:16] prurigro I thought it was just bots now [21:16] admfubar someone does... not sure if they are people.. [21:17] prurigro I guess it's possible the bots are sentient haha [21:17] admfubar https://it.slashdot.org/story/23/09/28/219251/bing-chat-responses-infiltrated-by-ads-pushing-malware [21:17] TR Bot Bing Chat Responses Infiltrated By Ads Pushing Malware - Slashdot [21:18] psydruid it was a redirection to techrights providing an approved certificate by immibis because techrights doesn't want to be beholden to freedom-hostile certificate autorities [21:19] admfubar but will they last a fortnight? https://www.tweaktown.com/news/93504/fortnite-maker-epic-games-lays-off-870-workers-ceo-says-is-far-short-of-sustainability/index.html [21:19] TR Bot Fortnite maker Epic Games lays off 870 workers, CEO says Epic is 'far short' of sustainability [21:19] psydruid I hope the techwrongs links will disappear over time [21:19] prurigro lets encrypt is about as free as I picture CAs being in their current state [21:19] prurigro makes sense thougbh [21:19] prurigro thanks for satisfying my curiosity [21:20] psydruid free as in beer or free as in freedom? [21:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [21:21] psydruid or free as in liberated by anti-free-software corporations? [21:23] prurigro free as in freedom- not saying they are free as in freedom, but because CAs by definition are centralized, offering foss tools, foss infrastructure and doesn't require an account or phone call, it's about as close as they could probably get [21:31] *jrmu (~jrmu@8tk6bfa4kxcgg.irc) has joined #techrights [21:45] *MinceR gives voice to jrmu [21:47] eidolon free as in drunk [21:48] MinceR :> [21:50] psydruid free as in imprisoned, I get it [21:51] sharkey free as in the shackles of the SSL cartel [21:51] KindOne This network offer custom cloaks/vhosts/spoofs/whatever? [21:52] psydruid this network offers the ultimate freedom to do whatever you want [21:52] prurigro you don't even have to wear pants [21:56] MinceR KindOne: we do have HostServ [21:56] MinceR it doesn't seem to have request [21:57] MinceR so i don't know how it's supposed to work [21:57] MinceR KindOne: but i can set a vhost for you if you want me to [21:57] admfubar they are now! https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/29/bereal-pushes-back-at-report-that-its-losing-steam-says-it-now-has-25m-daily-users/ [21:57] TR Bot pushes back at report that it's losing steam, says it now has 25M daily users | TechCrunch [21:57] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) [21:57] *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) ● Sep 29 [22:02] prurigro I've never even heard of BeReal [22:07] admfubar it is the site that randomly want you to stop what you are doing at the moment and post a picture of what you are doing. [22:08] prurigro ohhh, I think I read about that when it launched lol [22:08] prurigro basically the opposite of what I want my phone to be [22:08] sharkey oh another form of social control media [22:08] sharkey Stalin would be proud [22:10] admfubar wonder where google is gonna jam this failed product... https://www.theregister.com/2023/09/29/google_kills_jamboard/ [22:10] TR Bot Jamboard hardware, software latest to join Google graveyard The Register [22:12] admfubar https://scheerpost.com/2023/09/29/max-blumenthal-where-did-it-all-go-wrong-for-the-internet/ [22:12] TR Bot Blumenthal: Where Did It All Go Wrong for the Internet? scheerpost.com [22:13] DaemonFC The doctor was supposed to have someone from the surgical center contact us about Mandy and I was told to expect a call by the end of the week. [22:14] DaemonFC No call. I called back and the woman I spoke to on the phone said nobody had ever requested that we receive a phone call. [22:14] admfubar what could go wrong if it makes an elliptical curve turn? https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-simple-math-moves-the-needle-20230929/ [22:14] TR Bot Quanta Magazine [22:15] admfubar https://puri.sm/posts/international-cybersecurity-standards-do-not-address-surveillance-capitalism/ [22:16] TR Bot International Cybersecurity Standards do Not Address Surveillance Capitalism Purism [22:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [22:21] DaemonFC https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4229697-dianne-feinstein-dies-at-age-90/ [22:21] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4229697-dianne-feinstein-dies-at-age-90/ ) [22:22] DaemonFC Wouldn't affect her ability to do her job much at this point. [22:22] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/23092629 [22:22] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [22:22] prurigro admfubar: if I understood the article I read this morning correctly, there's another giant screen you can buy to replace it? [22:23] admfubar and how soon will that one will no longer be supported? [22:24] prurigro surely never- google doesn't drop their important projects like $next_expensive_screen and google domains [22:24] admfubar ;) [22:24] admfubar https://lifehacker.com/why-a-pawn-shop-is-better-than-a-payday-loan-in-an-emer-1850886664 [22:24] TR Bot Why a Pawn Shop Is Better Than a Payday Loan in an Emergency [22:25] DaemonFC https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4230901-tupac-shakur-slaying-las-vegas-police-arrest-suspect-27-years-later/ [22:25] TR Bot ( status 403 @ https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/4230901-tupac-shakur-slaying-las-vegas-police-arrest-suspect-27-years-later/ ) [22:25] DaemonFC So the guy who did it was stupid enough to confess in an interview in 2018 and it still took the police another 5 years to arrest him? [22:25] prurigro holy, that was not news I expected to see today [22:25] prurigro lol [22:27] prurigro and to be fair, someone can admit to something but you still need to prove they did it [22:28] sharkey That and it's probably on a long list of crimes done by black people [22:28] eidolon https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1ZrfcnU1FZg [22:28] TR Bot Chris Penn explains why torture doesn't work. - Invidious [22:29] prurigro sharkey: not like those whites, who never commit crimes [22:29] sharkey I know right [22:30] sharkey if white people commit crimes they're usually in a gang with black people [22:30] prurigro or maybe they're actually just black people in whiteface [22:33] *DaemonFC removes voice from sharkey [22:33] *u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [22:33] DaemonFC One of those white people who would never commit a cybercrime while admitting that he was tracking people's scooters. [22:34] DaemonFC GULAGtwitter is STILL down. [22:34] DaemonFC :) [22:35] DaemonFC McDonald's says no delivery fee with a coupon, but they increase the price 20% and won't let you use a 20% off coupon you could use in the restaurant. LOL [22:36] DaemonFC No fee. Just pay another ~40%. [22:36] prurigro it's funny how language can be manipulated like that eh [22:38] *u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@vga34widiu32u.irc) has joined #techrights [22:38] *MinceR gives voice to u-amarsh04 [22:40] admfubar it isnt the language that is being manipulated.... [22:42] prurigro por que no los dos? [22:48] eidolon The mere sensation of getting a deal is enough to warrant the raise in price. :D [22:48] eidolon You're payin for the experience. [22:49] eidolon Sit back and just enjoy it. [22:59] IPFS IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.13 k/sec., IPFS upstream 215.23 average k/sec., average swarm size 0 ● Sep 29 [23:00] admfubar https://xkcd.com/2835/ [23:00] TR Bot Factorial Numbers [23:06] *geert (~geert@ub9gfqtp8wtta.irc) has joined #techrights [23:07] *MinceR gives voice to geert [23:20] IPFS () Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-28.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2023-09-29.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi [23:32] eidolon Also, McDonald's has been offering apple fritters for a few years already, so they are not beholden. [23:34] geert the more i think about it, the more it starts to seriously seem kind of 'citizen duty' to simply refuse buying from large 'concerns' and 'chains' etc. [23:34] geert like large mart chains but also generic laptop brands etc. [23:34] geert like just kinda of principally not buy large names like hp etc. [23:34] geert maybe a few larger names in industry a little bit exception [23:35] geert like palo alto [23:35] geert so not just in regard to fastfood, confection or something, also stuff like hosting provider / electricity, grocery etc. [23:39] eidolon The big companies recognize this thinking turns out to be innate in people, to seek out some authentic experience, to buy from the small shops with the story. [23:39] eidolon That's why they buy the small down-homey brands and keep the story. [23:43] eidolon So even when ye are trying to do your due diligence, its not enough. It's a field of marketing in itself. [23:43] geert nah its not about 'teh story' [23:44] geert that might be the narrative of some supposed 'enrepeneurs' etc. [23:44] eidolon sure it is [23:44] geert nah it isnt [23:44] eidolon Ye buy the thing in the brown paper packaging with the story about the farmer on the back, whose family has turned the soil for generations. [23:44] geert its about the very facts in the end [23:45] geert like employees getting more say and better many things with smaller companies etc. [23:45] geert the story is more part of narrative of some lewd goons who wana have you cooperate their narrative way so to speak [23:46] geert anyways im kinda in the middle lot of not the most positive things currently so maybe i get you some examples in another day [23:46] eidolon Well it is truly failed 'citizen duty' in that case. [23:48] eidolon The point is that well-meaning efforts will be co-opted as they are wont to do. [23:48] geert na more like many failed people who talk alot about so called problems and often times fail just very basic easy long past known realizations and kind of adding to costs until they realize its not 'the other whos gona fix it for free' [23:48] geert like some e.g. say 'life is a bitch' [23:48] geert but life aint no bitch [23:49] geert it is filled with sort of bitches who tryna hide behind blaming Life [23:49] geert same kind of error [23:49] geert it is citizen duty to try seek the good to whatever group one tries reside in [23:49] geert now subjective shimmering basically wrecks lots of those efforst, if any, anyway [23:50] geert one should still at least try seek so to speak [23:52] geert otherwise i might tryna slap penalty lines in them goons neck [23:52] geert SHLAPP!!1! [23:52] geert thousands and thousands of times [23:53] geert with just one pen [23:53] geert 'im a fucked up shit goon and i should ve gotten rid of myself way before even daring to fuck up again' [23:53] eidolon Like it was not so long ago McDonald's had to overhaul their entire public image, cause people were to keen on the fact they were hot garbage. [23:53] eidolon Before they added salads to the menu and nutrition facts and this sort of thing. [23:55] geert it probably look healthy in your eyes, it probably might lure you through the door spending some moar [23:55] geert and probably something snatch on you while ordering or on the way out that you did not exactly plan for [23:55] geert they might got you triggered man [23:55] geert them multidimenstional narrative aimed at slaving you into them slaving your fellow stoo, for the same price [23:56] geert now dont get dizzy now coz if it aint not democracy, that what is the payer actually paying for while hiding behind supposed 'voters' you think? [23:56] geert lemme guess if the ad seem tempting you gona tell a so called friend? [23:57] eidolon in the middle of the night, yes [23:58] geert that what* should be 'then what' actually [23:58] MinceR https://ircz.de/p/23092544 [23:58] TR Bot WHOOPSIE [23:59] geert basically many people mess up there, they prefer the night before doing what they should, many many citizens etc.