●● IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Sunday, November 29, 2020 ●● ● Nov 29 [00:16] MinceR https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705975.jpg [00:25] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [00:34] *obarun has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [00:44] *Blukunfando (~bkf@62.57.153.77.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #techrights [00:51] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/training [00:51] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Training ● Nov 29 [01:48] *mjg59 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) ● Nov 29 [02:14] *mmu_man has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [02:34] *xvx has quit (Quit: xvx) ● Nov 29 [03:39] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hiccaslramtbqzdd) has joined #techrights ● Nov 29 [04:12] *esaym153 has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [04:13] *esaym153 (~esaym153@net153.net) has joined #techrights ● Nov 29 [06:08] search_social what's wrong with epo [06:25] *CrystalMath has quit (Quit: May we live long and die out | http://vhemt.org/) [06:58] *kupi has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) ● Nov 29 [07:40] vZS1 schestowitz: re: the IPFS setup you published. The Go binaries aren't actually necessary. I just put them there in case I needed to compile anything from source [07:40] vZS1 All you really need is the IPFS binary [07:43] vZS1 > IPFS objects are stored locally on your filesystem via a method called adding. The ipfs command for this is, unsurprisingly, called `ipfs add`. `ipfs add CID` will grab the appropriate IPFS object off the Internet for you. [07:47] vZS1 That command adds files from the local host to IPFS [07:48] vZS1 I need to check the exact semantics [07:55] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #HowTo monitor file content while they change in Linux su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144865 [https://pleroma.site/objects/405fa425-383c-46eb-8e83-923989b15288] [07:59] vZS1 Okay, that does need to be corrected. ● Nov 29 [08:00] vZS1 "IPFS objects are stored locally on your filesystem via a method called adding. The ipfs command for this is, unsurprisingly, called `ipfs add`. `ipfs add path` will add the specified file or directory to IPFS." [08:01] vZS1 I mixed up `ipfs add` with `ipfs pin add`. [08:02] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Video/Shows: Yacy, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Vs Ubuntu 20.10, Picom su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144866 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5b7c4c7f-8b0c-4747-a967-7ee594efa5ed] [08:06] vZS1 "Files from your host can be added to IPFS as something called IPFS objects. The ipfs command for this is, unsurprisingly, called `ipfs add`. `ipfs add path` will add the specified file or directory to IPFS." [08:07] vZS1 There we go. Now it's correct. [08:11] schestowitz OK, I will push that change through [08:11] schestowitz the bulletin will not be regenerated though [08:15] vZS1 It's fine. A bit of leg work won't hurt anyone lol [08:15] schestowitz I've made the paragraph substitution [08:16] vZS1 Article already mentions how to check the semantics of each command multiple times [08:16] schestowitz yesterday I spent 2 hours (almost) improving the bulletin's layout [08:16] schestowitz and then testing it [08:16] vZS1 That's typically a warning I throw into all the documentation I write multiple times [08:17] vZS1 Let me have a look at this new bulletin [08:19] vZS1 It definitely looks cleaner [08:36] schestowitz I've made a few changes since. will test them tonight after midnight. [08:46] vZS1 schestowitz: I'm going to be away for a while, starting tomorrow. If there's anything urgent you think I should know, just ping me via email. ● Nov 29 [09:05] schestowitz alright [09:40] *tr_guest|58565 (b05c5c70@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.92.92.112) has joined #techrights [09:40] schestowitz hi, tr_guest|58565 [09:40] tr_guest|58565 hello [09:42] *tr_guest|58565 has quit (Client Quit) [09:48] *titanbiscuit (~tbisk@193.148.18.52) has joined #techrights ● Nov 29 [10:06] *Condor (~freenode@e1.nixmagic.com) has joined #techrights [10:33] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc07:2000:64d4:daa7:8b14:7753) has joined #techrights [10:49] *chomwitt has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Nov 29 [11:09] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144868 [https://pleroma.site/objects/02252ae8-98a3-401a-8e45-f771a1e5b9fd] [11:11] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IKOULA hosts Raspberry Pi 4 micro server for 4.99+ Euros per month su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144867 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a9c36c20-b580-48ec-b141-6f02074aaa9f] [11:25] *chomwitt (~chomwitt@2a02:587:dc1a:2900:64d4:daa7:8b14:7753) has joined #techrights ● Nov 29 [12:01] *rianne__ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [12:01] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:01] *rianne__ has quit (Client Quit) [12:02] *rianne__ (~rianne@host81-154-173-112.range81-154.btcentralplus.com) has joined #techrights [12:15] *vZS1 has quit (Quit: Quit) [12:29] *mmu_man (~revol@vaf26-2-82-244-111-82.fbx.proxad.net) has joined #techrights [12:33] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Weekly Roundup: Blender 2.91, LibreOffice 7.1 Beta, Ardour 6.4 su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144869 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e68ac9f4-7a0e-4367-b08b-fb90ed3107fb] [12:40] *birkoff has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [12:51] *chomwitt has quit (Quit: WeeChat 2.3) [12:54] *birkoff (birkoff@gateway/shell/ircnow/x-ttzuowdzlafbxkoa) has joined #techrights ● Nov 29 [13:54] *smnthermes is now known as Samanto ● Nov 29 [14:06] schestowitz http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/10/12/the-prickly-prince-strikes-again/ [14:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Prickly Prince From Microsoft Strikes Again TechCrunch [14:06] schestowitz old [14:06] schestowitz https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects [14:06] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | High Priority Free Software Projects Free Software Foundation Working together for free software [14:07] MinceR (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20073128 [14:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4793747) [14:11] schestowitz > Did you see [14:11] schestowitz > http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/ ? [14:11] schestowitz I had not. [14:11] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outreachy as Hush Money (Bribe) From Monopolies | Techrights [14:14] MinceR http://surrounder.nl/philosophers.jpg [14:15] XRevan86 MinceR: I like that idiom. [14:15] XRevan86 I'll try to remember it. [14:19] *Blukunfando has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [14:21] *inky has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [14:25] schestowitz "This was a great piece. Sorry I missed the nomination deadline. " [14:25] schestowitz [we are studying Outreachy] [14:25] schestowitz XRevan86: who you callll idiot!! [14:25] MinceR ghostbusters [14:26] XRevan86 ah [14:26] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/class-3 [14:26] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Class [14:27] *Samanto is now known as smnthermes [14:34] XRevan86 > User "pakalupapito" has been suspended [14:35] MinceR :( [14:36] XRevan86 I'll have to make do with https://web.archive.org/web/20180214210646if_/https://twitter.com/pakalupapito [14:36] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | pakalu papito (@pakalupapito) | [14:36] XRevan86 "can u lose weight by running away from your feelings?" great question [14:37] *inky (~inky@46.241.132.231) has joined #techrights [14:39] XRevan86 "don't throw hate at me, throw money" https://youtu.be/rcvRquOoEyc [14:39] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- - YouTube [14:39] schestowitz I have a difficult article [14:39] schestowitz it's difficult [14:40] schestowitz because of how it can be misinterpreted [14:40] schestowitz can anyone check with me? [14:40] XRevan86 "life is soup, i am a fork" huh, it's there with an article. [14:40] schestowitz to avoid faux pas? [14:40] schestowitz I can publish the draft [14:40] schestowitz it's about outreachy [14:40] XRevan86 ouch [14:41] schestowitz wanna read? [14:41] schestowitz to see what you make of it? [14:41] schestowitz typos are secondary [14:44] schestowitz any takers? [14:54] XRevan86 schestowitz: shoot [14:58] schestowitz ok [14:58] schestowitz wait.. [14:58] schestowitz I added another meme [14:59] schestowitz XRevan86: here [14:59] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/11/29/outreachy-explained-by-minority-female/ [14:59] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sincere Thoughts About Outreachy | Techrights [14:59] *CrystalMath (~coderain@reactos/developer/theflash) has joined #techrights [14:59] schestowitz typos caught would be nice [14:59] schestowitz I want to know if this comes across as too 'abrasive' ● Nov 29 [15:04] MinceR https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/unity [15:04] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Unity [15:07] schestowitz I have just added a paragraph: [15:07] schestowitz "If the SFC is OK with raising money from the most anti-GPL company founded by a close friend of Mr. Epstein, then we know that the SFC is neither about Software Freedom -- right there in the SFC's name! -- nor about women or young girls. Double standards are an astounding thing if you can sell keynote speeches in a copyleft event to the company which attacks copyleft like no other company ever did." [15:07] XRevan86 "from an American perspective" would a Mexican or Brazilian agree? [15:08] XRevan86 "(rather than contrary)" the? [15:09] schestowitz ah, [15:09] schestowitz I will say US/American [15:09] schestowitz good catch [15:09] schestowitz I am usually pedantic about those things [15:09] schestowitz Monroe doctrine [15:10] schestowitz XRevan86: corrected [15:10] XRevan86 "money does not have a gender" in many languages it does %) [15:10] schestowitz oh, I will add caveat [15:11] MinceR grammatical gender is stupid [15:11] schestowitz (Well, pedantic folks tell me that "in many languages it does," but not in English) [15:11] schestowitz added [15:11] XRevan86 Uralics saw Indo-Europeans gendering, they hatin' [15:12] XRevan86 schestowitz: It's more of a joke than useful commentary :) [15:13] XRevan86 schestowitz: Why do you use single quotes for quotation in some places and double quotes in others? Is that inconsistency or subtle difference? [15:14] XRevan86 "due to request" a request? [15:15] XRevan86 "would be totally misplaced here" are you sure you want "totally" in here? [15:17] schestowitz I removed totally [15:17] schestowitz you are correct [15:17] schestowitz no need for that word [15:17] schestowitz sometimes I use scare quotes, thus single [15:17] schestowitz I will add "a" to request [15:17] schestowitz for clarity [15:18] schestowitz changed incorporated, so far: http://techrights.org/2020/11/29/outreachy-explained-by-minority-female/ [15:18] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Sincere Thoughts About Outreachy | Techrights [15:18] XRevan86 Hm, usually scare quotes are identical to regular quotation. [15:19] schestowitz depends on language/style [15:19] schestowitz US uses those interchangeably [15:20] XRevan86 As far as I can tell, the UK tends to use single quotes for everything. [15:22] XRevan86 Which I don't fancy as apostrophes are used in syntax as well. [15:24] XRevan86 "rom the most anti-GPL company" technically, that'd be Apple. [15:26] XRevan86 "for just bring it up" bringing [15:26] *GNUmoon has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [15:27] XRevan86 "in passive-aggressive fashion" an article is lost here [15:28] XRevan86 As far as the article as a whole goes, I can't tell. I'd be best to ask someone who's dealt with Outreachy. [15:29] schestowitz added: "Let's face it -- GPL enforcement will never be as profitable (financially rewarding) as buckling to the tune of "corporate masters" to whom sponsorships are a slush fund's little slush fund." [15:30] schestowitz [15:24] "rom the most anti-GPL company" technically, that'd be Apple. [15:30] schestowitz I beg to differ [15:30] schestowitz and can explain why [15:30] schestowitz it's to do with magnitude and breath [15:30] schestowitz not just veracity [15:30] schestowitz Apple's GPL hostility is nowhere near what github and Microsoft lobbyists did [15:30] schestowitz [15:26] "for just bring it up" bringing [15:30] schestowitz thanks, I caught that too minutes ago [15:31] schestowitz [15:28] As far as the article as a whole goes, I can't tell. I'd be best to ask someone who's dealt with Outreachy. [15:31] schestowitz yes, that would be nice [15:31] schestowitz if someone can contact us who was tutored by it directly [15:31] schestowitz not someone who know someone in it [15:32] schestowitz and I guess it would have to be done anonymously [15:32] XRevan86 Not sure if I should bring up that it's "to choose whom to" :) [15:32] schestowitz some people will know who my article refers to [15:32] schestowitz but that does not mean I should not make it easier for everyone to guess [15:33] schestowitz but your remark on the finish is noteworthy and appreciated [15:33] schestowitz that's why I asked for input [15:33] schestowitz to tone it down a bit, e.g. totally [15:33] schestowitz [01:48] <-- mjg59 (~mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk) has left this server (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). [15:34] schestowitz he left half a day ago [15:34] schestowitz we've been on his radar [15:34] schestowitz and you just need to check his history to understand his role inside FSF, Google, kernel and so on [15:34] schestowitz for over 5 years he badmouthed linux torvalds [15:35] schestowitz sometimes using the veil of cause of feminism, then trans [15:35] schestowitz which really had nothing to do with UEFI 'secure boot' [15:35] schestowitz but the goal was just to shame Torvalds with anything they could throw at him [15:35] schestowitz http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ [15:35] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | They Tell Us Linus Torvalds is Sexist But Evidence Suggests Otherwise | Techrights [15:36] schestowitz so their ilk would have the objective of painting sites like ours with the "intolerant" brush [15:36] schestowitz he tried to associate us with "rape" something months ago in Twitter, using ridiculous innuendo [15:37] schestowitz to maintain our ability to speak about these issues it's still necessary to check sentences cannot be taken out of context for "tl;dr" culture in social control media [15:37] oiaohm I have met Linus Torvalds in person. He did have to correct his language because this was going to cause future legal trouble in places like Australia. But sexist absolutely not. [15:38] CrystalMath i don't understand why he should care [15:38] CrystalMath if australia wants to ban linux because of sexist language, let the people of australia suffer until they fight for a better government [15:38] schestowitz The audacity of trying to label Torvalds "sexist" http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/sexism-misrepresentation/ [15:38] CrystalMath it's not Linus's fault [15:39] MinceR indeed [15:39] CrystalMath that's what i would do [15:40] oiaohm CrystalMath: it was not sexist language that got Linus into possible legal trouble here in future. [15:40] CrystalMath i firmly believe that women are equal to men, but i believe that nobody should be sensitive to speech that contradicts their opinions [15:40] CrystalMath oiaohm: what was it? [15:41] oiaohm Some of Linus rants against developers crossed into the Australian laws define of verbal Assault. [15:42] oiaohm So that had to stop or big trouble would happen when he visited Australia at some point. [15:42] CrystalMath meh, i can't visit australia anyway [15:42] schestowitz they're not his employees [15:42] schestowitz he's not obliged to be polite to them [15:42] CrystalMath schestowitz: absolutely [15:42] schestowitz he can tell them to "fuck the fuck off" if he wants to [15:43] CrystalMath +1 [15:43] oiaohm Australia law on Verbal Assault person does not have to be your employee. [15:43] schestowitz they would not enforce this [15:43] schestowitz if done over email [15:43] oiaohm Yes Linus does live visiting Australias Linux Conference. [15:43] schestowitz and not menacing language [15:43] CrystalMath i'm quite sure there are reasons why he can't go to Saudi Arabia either [15:44] schestowitz wearing shorts :) [15:44] schestowitz (true story btw) [15:44] schestowitz you can't even board their plane with shorts on [15:44] MinceR they force you to remove your shorts? [15:45] CrystalMath :P [15:45] CrystalMath i wonder if skirts would be fine.... [15:47] schestowitz [01:48] <-- mjg59 (~mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk) has left this server (Ping timeout: 272 seconds). [15:47] schestowitz he works for the world's biggest spy agency npw [15:47] schestowitz Google [15:47] oiaohm schestowitz: the one Linus got pulled up in 2017 he did use some text that legally is defined as menacing. [15:47] schestowitz too busy for IRC [15:47] schestowitz mission aborted (to shame us) [15:47] oiaohm So it was a case he could not keep on getting slightly worse. [15:48] oiaohm Or soon he was going to really cross a line. [15:48] schestowitz you cannot enforce based on perceived intent [15:48] schestowitz that's like arresting a man for looking at a girl [15:48] schestowitz saying he MIGHT sexually assault her next [15:48] schestowitz the law doesn't work on predictive >enforcement< [15:49] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Sincere Thoughts About #Outreachy http://techrights.org/2020/11/29/outreachy-explained-by-minority-female/ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW [https://pleroma.site/objects/0865ee4a-7d53-43ee-a35d-3ced4601ae25] [15:49] MinceR won't stop authoritarians from trying [15:49] oiaohm No verbal Assualt under Australian law in written form is offence alone with a max of 10 years jail. [15:49] oiaohm So its basically no joke. [15:49] schestowitz it is [15:49] schestowitz sometimes jokes write themselves [15:50] schestowitz [15:44] they force you to remove your shorts? [15:50] schestowitz That's the concern [15:50] schestowitz because rape of males is an issue there [15:50] schestowitz and they find man without beards and with "felsh" attractive [15:50] schestowitz *flesh [15:50] schestowitz taboo subject, closeted homosexuality in KSA [15:51] MinceR abrahamics are the worst [15:51] schestowitz my sister in law worked there as a nurse, so she knows [15:52] schestowitz if they legalised homosexuality in KSA, maybe there would be fewer assaults to that effect [15:52] schestowitz but I'm no expert, that's what I was told [15:52] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in #Techrights su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144870 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8a3688d1-f937-489a-b051-7dcc1200da65] ● Nov 29 [16:12] CrystalMath so i take it that flying to saudi arabia while wearing a skirt is not a good idea, then [16:13] MinceR flying to saudi arabia is not a good idea [16:13] MinceR going to or being in saudi arabia is also not a good idea [16:13] CrystalMath yeah pretty much [16:13] MinceR unless you have an army you can resist the state with [16:13] CrystalMath Biden's USA will probably defend Saudi Arabia, like Obama did [16:14] MinceR biden's uhmerica will probably defend religious fundamentalism about as much as cheeto hitler's uhmerica did [16:14] MinceR if you want change, you need to get rid of the two-party system [16:14] *kupi (uid212005@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqbnyydqsnaerben) has joined #techrights [16:15] MinceR well, they'll probably defend it a little bit less [16:15] MinceR but not enough to make a significant difference [16:30] schestowitz [16:13] Biden's USA will probably defend Saudi Arabia, like Obama did [16:30] schestowitz wait, waaaah?? [16:30] schestowitz did you not pay attention to what Trump did? [16:30] schestowitz he was more pro-KSA than obama was [16:30] schestowitz he literally bragged to mbs he owned him one for covering up murder of a journalist [16:30] schestowitz he sold them lots of weapons [16:31] schestowitz check you facts, maaaaan... [16:31] schestowitz Bush was also close to KSA, directly and indirectly [16:34] CrystalMath guess i wasn't paying attention [16:34] CrystalMath unfortuantely, it makes sense, as Trump is also super pro-israel :( [16:55] schestowitz CrystalMath: https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+saudi+medal&client=falkon&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUuOmWnKjtAhWsQkEAHdd8BSgQ_AUoAnoECAcQBA&biw=1920&bih=981 [16:55] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trump saudi medal - Google Search [16:55] schestowitz pictures are quick to digest [16:56] schestowitz or https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+saudi+mbs&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwily9OZnKjtAhUMgM4BHbleCb8Q2-cCegQIABAA&oq=trump+saudi+mbs&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzoCCAA6BggAEAgQHlDd4QFY6uMBYKzlAWgAcAB4AIABdYgBvQKSAQMxLjKYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=iNLDX6XnBIyAur4Pub2l-As&bih=981&biw=1920&client=falkon [16:56] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-trump saudi mbs - Google Search [16:56] schestowitz I don't even need to say anything, do I? [16:56] schestowitz well... [16:57] schestowitz I have not yet found a photo of them french-kissing [16:57] schestowitz I will update you once that changes anyway ● Nov 29 [17:01] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144871 [https://pleroma.site/objects/19e5bc8d-ce58-4cb3-9be3-04c6239ee6a3] [17:05] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenClinic GA: 500+ worldwide hospital Implementation with ~500 weekly downloads su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144872 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5b659426-c7b7-4659-be47-037845e2c4c7] [17:08] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux 5.11 Adds Magic To Support Guitar Hero Live PlayStation 3 / Wii U Dongles su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144873 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2b1a3bb8-30b4-4bf4-81b3-46c5dc5db1c9] [17:11] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenOffice Still Gets +1.5 Million Downloads Per Month, Despite Being Discontinued su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144874 [https://pleroma.site/objects/945657f5-d0f0-45b9-94d6-cb9ff561d5be] [17:23] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/11/breaking-dusseldorf-court-refers.html?showComment=1606413634736#c2348413860786539705 [17:23] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [BREAKING] Dsseldorf court refers questions on component-level SEP licensing to CJEU in Nokia/Daimler - The IPKat [17:23] schestowitz " [17:23] schestowitz What Nokia wants is quite see-through, i.e. to force Daimler to take a license, whereby the licence should be calculated over the price of a car and not merely the price of the component supplied to the car manufacturer, whether we have a SEP or not. [17:23] schestowitz The car manufacturer is the end user and should at best only be held liable if the component supplier has failed to get a licence before selling the component to Daimler and the latter was fully aware of it. [17:23] schestowitz A reasonable way to look at the problem is that the licence should be, in case of a SEP, FRAND compatible, for the component supplier and not the end user. It cannot be that Nokia wants to cash in at the component level and at the car level. [17:23] schestowitz One of the question which occurs is whether or not the exhaustion of the patent rights is achieved at component manufacturer level or at end user level. [17:23] schestowitz If the component manufacturer has taken a license, be it FRAND or not, then the rights stemming from the patent are exhausted and the car manufacturer should not be taken to court. [17:23] schestowitz Nokia, like Conversant and co, has become a troll. Patents might be monopolies, but misuse of monopolies should be curtailed. [17:23] schestowitz Lets hope that the CJEU will clarify the situation in a not too distant future. [17:23] schestowitz " [17:35] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming/Development: Rust, Python and More su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144875 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e9be0653-04c9-43be-80cf-c472f66080a4] [17:40] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays Leftovers su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144876 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c3c22098-ded7-4fc9-8d7a-8f5b3120c5c6] [17:48] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 29/11/2020: Genode OS Framework 20.11, Linux 5.11 Kernel Changes, and Latest in KDE Itinerary http://techrights.org/2020/11/29/genode-os-20-11/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/16461080-0743-483b-8853-f80c5ab03e49] ● Nov 29 [18:05] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has joined #techrights [18:20] *AdmFubar (~mradmin@76-234-138-224.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) has left #techrights [18:24] schestowitz zoobab: [18:24] schestowitz http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/11/guest-post-european-commission-unveils.html?showComment=1606386135124#c3746309490749918988 [18:24] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] European Commission unveils new IP Action Plan - The IPKat [18:24] schestowitz " [18:24] schestowitz So looks like the EU Commission is now basically telling the member states to go ahead with implementing the UP: [18:24] schestowitz "The unitary patent system will become effective with the entry into force of the UPCA. With the ratification process now on track following the resolution of the constitutional complaint before the German Constitutional Court, it is now expected that that the new system could start operating in 2022, following the provisional application period' that should start in 2021. [18:24] schestowitz Thus the Commission is calling upon Member States for a rapid roll-out of the Unitary Patent System." [18:24] schestowitz Cynics who were of the view that the UP was being delayed simply to get the UK out of the door before its implementation will not find much in this to disprove their pre-existing views. [18:24] schestowitz " [18:25] schestowitz zoobab: notice the arrogance [18:26] schestowitz it's like Breton is a Team UPC mole [18:26] schestowitz and little other than that [18:26] schestowitz they 'plant' their officials at the very heart of Brussels [18:26] schestowitz to tell their lies using the "EU" creds/badge [18:32] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Top 5 Linux Server Malware and Rootkits Scanners http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144877 [https://pleroma.site/objects/486a214c-c4bf-4a8e-ba09-3f52287f8b35] [18:33] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: FontManager 0.8 Released with Google Fonts Integration http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144878 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d54ab91-a8fb-41c1-b49c-2843922fb141] [18:45] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Tootle Lightning Fast GTK+3 Mastodon Client for Linux su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144880 [https://pleroma.site/objects/afe6a399-77de-4bca-aa37-257049a616ce] [18:49] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todays #HowTos | #UNIX su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144881 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4755ba9f-5f03-436f-9eb6-71d875b88367] [18:50] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers su xn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144879 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed6a3b12-b312-4084-8503-58ace55aff61] ● Nov 29 [19:30] *vZS1 (~vZS1@host-92-20-231-81.as13285.net) has joined #techrights [19:31] *vZS1 has quit (Client Quit) [19:42] zoobab I know [19:43] zoobab they are probably already calling all the remaining countries to go ahead ASAP [19:44] zoobab they gonna try to buy them with a seat, like Ireland [19:49] DaemonFC[m] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/wisconsin-recount-over/2020/11/29/b4896ade-30c9-11eb-96c2-aac3f162215d_story.html?outputType=amp [19:49] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Wisconsin recount confirms Bidens win over Trump, cementing the presidents failure to change the election results - The Washington Post [19:51] *titanbiscuit has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Nov 29 [20:07] zoobab https://www.twobirds.com/en/in-focus/unitary-patents-and-the-unified-patent-court/up-and-upc-interactive-map/slovenia [20:07] -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.twobirds.com | Slovenia [20:17] *oiaohm has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:17] *oiaohm (~oiaohm@unaffiliated/oiaohm) has joined #techrights [20:30] *ChanServ has quit (shutting down) [20:31] *ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) has joined #techrights [20:31] *verne.freenode.net gives channel operator status to ChanServ [20:44] search_social why do we care about unitary patent system [20:44] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [20:57] *GNUmoon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) ● Nov 29 [21:58] *aindilis has quit (Remote host closed the connection) ● Nov 29 [22:09] *GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights [22:14] *obarun (~obarun@host-115-126-165-174.fibre.nautile.nc) has joined #techrights [22:22] -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: How to solve NetBeans IDE 8.2 RC No compatible JDK was found? 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