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schestowitzhttps://journal.heloo.net/2019/12/22/linux-app-summit/Dec 29 05:39
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schestowitzhttps://rhonda.deb.at/blog/2019/12/28#pubertyDec 29 05:55
schestowitz"So ... I know it's not that common. I know you are not used to a grown up person to go through puberty. But for god's sake. Don't make it harder than it has to be. I know it's hard to deal with a 46 year old teenager, so to say, I'm just trying to survive in this world of systematic oppression of trans people."Dec 29 05:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rhonda.deb.at | Rhonda's BlogDec 29 05:56
schestowitzfrom Planet Debian todayDec 29 05:56
schestowitzpuberty at 46 sounds like PMS for menDec 29 05:56
schestowitzthe concept is outlandishDec 29 05:56
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DaemonFC[m]What?Dec 29 06:06
DaemonFC[m]Did I skip a page here?Dec 29 06:06
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schestowitzSomeone contacted me about Gates and the child abuse scandal; we're getting more info now. "Is there anything from a technical standpoint you could say to watch out for or big no no's while researching this? I’m on the trail and can’t just walk away at this point."Dec 29 07:40
schestowitz"I have public records requests in with the Seattle PD to dig up everything on that employee’s case. My name is in public record if a third party were to request it so there is no turning back for me now."Dec 29 07:40
schestowitz"Then I found the bulk of your work - although I have come across at least two of your articles before that."Dec 29 07:40
schestowitz"What can you tell me about his connections to crimes against children? I’m looking for everything I can find but mainly any solid connections to convicted offenders. I couldn’t believe the Dr Pizza connection I learned from your article dubbing him “Microsoft Peter”. I remembered when that guy’s arrest was all over Twitter. Dec 29 07:43
schestowitz"Most of the stuff I’ve researched on Gates before this was his connection to eugenics and population control issues. And his dad. Lots of stuff on Gates Foundation.Dec 29 07:43
schestowitz"I could go on and on. Dec 29 07:43
schestowitz"Is there anything else you’ve learned about the employee besides what’s already been reported on your tech rights site, Seattle PI, KIRO 7, UK Daily, and one other one I can think of ATM?"Dec 29 07:43
schestowitzall: if you can help research this employee, that would be goodDec 29 07:43
schestowitzwe think we found himDec 29 07:43
schestowitzbut not able to get a responseDec 29 07:43
schestowitz> "So I’m suspecting you would have already drawn many deeper conclusions than I have so far, hence why I’m reaching out to you. Plus, I’m intrigued by your technical perspective on this. Seems to me like nobody else has taken this on like you have."Dec 29 07:44
schestowitz> "Great to meet you. Dec 29 07:44
schestowitzLet me sit on it for a bit before replying...Dec 29 07:44
schestowitz> "Thanks, I’m about to get some rest."Dec 29 07:44
schestowitz> "Glad I reached out. Thanks for your time. "Dec 29 07:44
schestowitz(it's about the Gates series, the arrest...)Dec 29 07:44
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schestowitzRMS:Dec 29 09:02
schestowitz>   > Whether I find another speaking opportunity for you or not, would you beDec 29 09:02
schestowitz>   > interested in meeting for a chat?Dec 29 09:02
schestowitz> Dec 29 09:02
schestowitz> Yes -- if we talk about freedom issues, not about my having been cancelled.Dec 29 09:02
schestowitzYes, I understand.Dec 29 09:02
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scientes<XRevan86> scientes: If you mentioned that, because it's inefficient compared to C, then don't worry, this kind of overhead won't even register on the radar %).Dec 29 10:31
scienteswhat is "that"?Dec 29 10:31
scientesthe slow memcpy?Dec 29 10:31
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XRevan86scientes: yesDec 29 10:39
scientesC's memcpy (actually glibc) in insanely fastDec 29 10:40
scientesyou can go through all your ram in a few minisecondsDec 29 10:41
XRevan86scientes: "The optimizer is intelligent enough to turn the above snippet into a memcpy."Dec 29 10:42
scientesXRevan86, that is a lieDec 29 10:42
scientesand it can't, because that code snippet guarantees forward copyDec 29 10:42
XRevan86scientes: A second lie :DDec 29 10:42
XRevan86The overhead still won't register though. The displayed precision is milliseconds (and the margin of error is bigger than that)Dec 29 10:44
scientesandrew is a great coder, and his vision is pretty good, but he hasn't really learned how to work with peopleDec 29 10:44
scienteshe lets his ambition get in the wayDec 29 10:45
scientesdurr hurrr, i was thinking december had 30 daysDec 29 10:47
XRevan86It is if you celebrate New Year in a particular wayDec 29 10:48
XRevan86* It hasDec 29 10:49
scientesheheDec 29 10:49
scientesif you black out from drunkenness on the 30th?Dec 29 10:50
scientesall the way through new years?Dec 29 10:50
XRevan86scientes: If you drink all your way through the holidays :)Dec 29 10:51
scientesin one drunken stuporDec 29 10:52
XRevan86with not a single waking moment of sobrietyDec 29 10:52
XRevan86scientes: @memcpy(@ptrCast([*]u8, v1.ptr), @ptrCast([*]u8, v0.ptr), @sizeOf(i12) * v0.len) – I assume that's the alternativeDec 29 10:52
XRevan86s/i12/i32/Dec 29 10:53
scientesXRevan86, that casting is horribleDec 29 10:53
scientesand then unless you link against libc you still get slow memcpyDec 29 10:53
XRevan86scientes: Wait… what does it use if I don't?Dec 29 10:53
scientesa few slow implementation in src/lib/c.zigDec 29 10:54
scientes*veryDec 29 10:54
scientesunless llvm inlines it, and then its super fastDec 29 10:54
XRevan86I assumed it just uses the bundled libc's oneDec 29 10:54
scientesthe "bundled libc" is limited to what llvm needs by defaultDec 29 10:55
scientesand in another one of andrew's over ambitious projectsDec 29 10:55
scientesI've never met someone so ready to decide on a spur of the moment to "commit" to multiple years of workDec 29 10:57
scientesits as if he will live foreverDec 29 10:57
XRevan86"that casting is horrible" – looks proper %)Dec 29 11:00
XRevan86scientes: A bit of a silly question: what's alignment? %)Dec 29 11:05
scientesXRevan86, https://www.infradead.org/~mchehab/kernel_docs/unsorted/unaligned-memory-access.htmlDec 29 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infradead.org | 86. UNALIGNED MEMORY ACCESSES — The Linux Kernel 4.9.0-rc1+ documentationDec 29 11:06
XRevan86scientes: Oh, I see.Dec 29 11:09
XRevan86scientes: Is it exposed in Zig for unions?Dec 29 11:10
scientesyesDec 29 11:10
scienteswell, only pointersDec 29 11:10
scientesalignment is only something that applies to pointersDec 29 11:10
scientescause everything else is guaranteed to be alignedDec 29 11:10
scientesor rather, only pointers can access memoryDec 29 11:11
scientesx86 support atomic operations on unaligned addresses that span pagesDec 29 11:12
scientesits insaneDec 29 11:12
XRevan86scientes: "that casting is horrible" – now look at Rust :)Dec 29 11:12
scientesyeah, I do use Rust because of thatDec 29 11:12
scientesit is designed to be hard to useDec 29 11:13
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XRevan86scientes: @memcpy(@sliceToBytes(v1).ptr, @sliceToBytes(v0).ptr, @sliceToBytes(v0).len) – maybe like this?Dec 29 11:18
scientesooo, niceDec 29 11:18
scientesbut I though we were in a sadomasicist contextDec 29 11:19
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XRevan86https://github.com/ziglang/zig/commit/e0db54e8 hahDec 29 11:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-update the codebase to use `@as` · ziglang/zig@e0db54e · GitHubDec 29 11:21
scientesyeah I haven't updated my codeDec 29 11:21
scientesto all the changesDec 29 11:21
XRevan86scientes: No, I just looked at how it can be done with @memcpyDec 29 11:21
scientesparticularly, there were some dumb changes that means i had to re-write everythingDec 29 11:22
scientesin my PRDec 29 11:22
XRevan86scientes: I think I'll keep things as they are in the snippet with @intCast and junk.Dec 29 11:22
scientesI think you still need that actuallyDec 29 11:23
scientesXRevan86, @as is just for the cast that worked implicitely beforeDec 29 11:23
XRevan86scientes: ahDec 29 11:24
scienteslike in a function callDec 29 11:25
XRevan86scientes: It's not a bad changeDec 29 11:29
XRevan86scientes: From C-like casting I'd expect C-like behaviour %)Dec 29 11:29
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/644852.jpgDec 29 15:17
XRevan86MinceR: lol!Dec 29 15:20
danielp3344yeah that's pretty greatDec 29 15:22
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/12/29/how-techrights-is-run/Dec 29 15:48
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schestowitzirc channels there..Dec 29 15:48
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schestowitzMinceR: they distract driversDec 29 20:51
schestowitzwith memes and jokesDec 29 20:51
schestowitzI find THAT disturbingDec 29 20:51
schestowitzpeople take photos while drivingDec 29 20:51
MinceR:>Dec 29 20:52
*XRevan86 looks for a turn?Dec 29 21:04
XRevan86Where's the turn? That's distubingDec 29 21:05
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danielp3344XRevan86: I believe they mean when changing lanesDec 29 21:05
XRevan86danielp3344: Ah. It doesn't look like a place where that's done often either %).Dec 29 21:06
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danielp3344MinceR: merry christmasDec 29 21:07
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MinceRdanielp3344: to you tooDec 29 21:17
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/644915.jpgDec 29 23:03
XRevan86MinceR: This is the pinnacle of stupid.Dec 29 23:05
MinceRi'm not sure, humans are pretty damn good at stupidDec 29 23:08
MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/abMW92v.mp4   ( https://imgur.com/gallery/P2n7YRa )Dec 29 23:12
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dabblerdudeHello, so I recently installed an unactivated version of Windows 10 legitimately. When I was on the setup screen for it, I clicked the "I don't have a product key" option and set up the rest of the OS from there. I know one difference between the unactivated and activated versions of 10, which is where you cannot change the default wallpaper.Dec 29 23:52
dabblerdudeWhat are some of the other things you cannot do with an unactivated version besides that?Dec 29 23:53
XRevan86dabblerdude: Pass an inspection.Dec 29 23:54
dabblerdudeLol.Dec 29 23:55
dabblerdudeI tried to look at videos explaining this, but most of them are from around 2 years ago.Dec 29 23:55
dabblerdudeI'm running Build 1909 right now, and that came out a couple months ago.Dec 29 23:56

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