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DaemonFC[m] | Yeah | Dec 29 00:39 |
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MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/trolley-5 | Dec 29 02:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Trolley | Dec 29 02:16 | |
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MinceR | https://nitter.net/MikeSington/status/1343605614035943434 | Dec 29 04:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Mike Sington (@MikeSington): "The Trump Hotel in Washington DC has conceded the election. They’ve unblocked all the rooms they had reserved for Inauguration Week, and have made them available to anyone, at a 25% discount." | nitter | Dec 29 04:43 | |
schestowitz | https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-is-6g/#respond | Dec 29 05:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | What Is 6G and How Does It Work? - Make Tech Easier | Dec 29 05:34 | |
schestowitz | lol, 6g | Dec 29 05:34 |
schestowitz | 10g coming soon | Dec 29 05:34 |
schestowitz | this is buzzwords-centric crap | Dec 29 05:45 |
schestowitz | china has the XG, watch out, soon X+1G | Dec 29 05:45 |
schestowitz | no actual substance to it | Dec 29 05:45 |
schestowitz | scaremongering and marketing | Dec 29 05:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/politics/pat-robertson-trump-2020-election/index.html | Dec 29 05:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Televangelist Pat Robertson says Trump lives in an 'alternate reality' and should move on from election loss - CNNPolitics | Dec 29 05:49 | |
DaemonFC[m] | "I had prayed and hoped that there might be some better solution, but I think it's all over," said Robertson, who previously said he was told by God that Trump would win the 2020 election. | Dec 29 05:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | God had bad information. He must watch OANN. | Dec 29 05:49 |
schestowitz | CNN: X says | Dec 29 05:49 |
schestowitz | nice 'reporting' | Dec 29 05:49 |
schestowitz | even if X is a k00k | Dec 29 05:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Robertson is the reason grandma had end of the world food piled under the beds in her house. | Dec 29 05:50 |
schestowitz | if there is an end of world | Dec 29 05:50 |
schestowitz | there's no time to eat it | Dec 29 05:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | A sack of sugar turned into a brick and Gonad broke his toe on it while he was there moving something. | Dec 29 05:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Y2K that time. | Dec 29 05:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | She just left it all under there for like 6-7 years. | Dec 29 05:51 |
schestowitz | what a waste of food! | Dec 29 05:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mom said grandma came over with her Cadillac trunk full of canned food with expiration dates years past. | Dec 29 05:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | And she was like "Now you just ignore those dates. It's still fine to eat!". | Dec 29 05:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | And they waved bye and then tossed it all in the garbage. | Dec 29 05:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then mom lived with Grandma for a couple years after the divorce from Dave and found a garage full of hoarded food that she had to throw out. | Dec 29 05:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mean it was just constant. | Dec 29 05:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | My grandmother has always been pretty far off, but hoarding food and then letting it all go bad was just a small part of it. | Dec 29 05:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It's bothering me, the immigration appt next month. I feel like it's crunch time and I'm going to forget some homework or something. | Dec 29 05:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was affecting my sleep last night. I know that's crazy. I only have to assemble two packets of information for them, but it's like after 2 years this is it. And we'll probably win, but maybe not. | Dec 29 05:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | They'll decide whatever it is they'll decide and there's not a lot I can do about it. | Dec 29 05:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't have many pictures from this year to bring in. | Dec 29 05:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | It wasn't really a year of going out and doing things. | Dec 29 05:59 |
schestowitz | yeah, makes sense | Dec 29 06:05 |
schestowitz | they might even be understanding | Dec 29 06:05 |
schestowitz | well, tbh, head-shaving doesn't leave a very good impression | Dec 29 06:05 |
schestowitz | just make sure nobody says something stupid | Dec 29 06:06 |
schestowitz | better to say too little than to utter what justifies red ink | Dec 29 06:06 |
schestowitz | anyway, about food hoarding... | Dec 29 06:06 |
schestowitz | brexit and covid gave people some reasons to do the same | Dec 29 06:06 |
schestowitz | but if you hoard food for a temporary period of uncertainty, then at least use it when that period is over | Dec 29 06:07 |
schestowitz | at least swap it with newer food | Dec 29 06:07 |
schestowitz | they like to mock "stupid" people (some of them types would say "sheeple") for not hoarding food for tough times, but if they buy food and let it spoil, who's stupid after all? | Dec 29 06:08 |
schestowitz | I've seen this in LOADS of sites yesterday https://www.wlwt.com/article/if-you-want-to-travel-next-year-you-may-need-a-vaccine-passport/35076931 | Dec 29 06:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wlwt.com | If you want to travel next year, you may need a vaccine passport | Dec 29 06:12 | |
schestowitz | this is sort of fear-mongering | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | tell us when there's a vaccine | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | what we have now is for-profit clinical trials | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | we know little about | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | efficacy | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | inc. in the face of mutations | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | like the latest strains observed in S Africa and Western Europe | Dec 29 06:12 |
schestowitz | we also have no idea about long-term side effect, though we already know people with allergies suffer short-term side-effects | Dec 29 06:13 |
schestowitz | so they're basically blackmailing people | Dec 29 06:13 |
schestowitz | and putting the shame sort of squeeze on them | Dec 29 06:13 |
schestowitz | if people were prevented from flying for rejecting these clinical trials | Dec 29 06:13 |
schestowitz | I'd say, "OK" | Dec 29 06:13 |
schestowitz | So I'm staying here. Nothing against vaccinations in general... | Dec 29 06:14 |
schestowitz | Like my dad told me yesterday, "let those other people try it first and see if that even increases their chances of survival and all" | Dec 29 06:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | They buy food and let it spoil and there went hundreds or thousands of dollars that they would have had to pay the rent. | Dec 29 06:14 |
schestowitz | And yes, I know that if too few people take the vaccines it reduces the overall effect ("herd immunity" in the VACCINE sense, not the nihilist sense of Trump and his "HERD") | Dec 29 06:15 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: hundreds or thousands of dollars? | Dec 29 06:15 |
schestowitz | wait, how MUCH food fits in that garage? | Dec 29 06:15 |
schestowitz | surely a roomfull of normal foods like sugar would not cost more than several thousands | Dec 29 06:16 |
schestowitz | and under the bed just hundreds | Dec 29 06:16 |
schestowitz | people can do better things to assure personal security in Western societies | Dec 29 06:22 |
schestowitz | food hoarding isn't the immediate need in most cases | Dec 29 06:22 |
schestowitz | as with some other goods you can get food from neighbours or other people | Dec 29 06:23 |
schestowitz | even if prices soar | Dec 29 06:23 |
schestowitz | You'd then have to worry about break-ins as well | Dec 29 06:23 |
schestowitz | so people in the US stockpile ammo and firearms | Dec 29 06:23 |
schestowitz | those are a lot more effective at forcibly taking food from other people | Dec 29 06:24 |
schestowitz | also, rich nations stockpile food | Dec 29 06:24 |
schestowitz | at a federal level | Dec 29 06:24 |
schestowitz | state level | Dec 29 06:24 |
schestowitz | so they can always resort to emergency rationing | Dec 29 06:24 |
schestowitz | with martial law and military intervention inland to keep the hooligans down | Dec 29 06:25 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Under two twin sized beds, under a king bed, in the garage, and an entire Cadillac trunk. | Dec 29 06:31 |
schestowitz | but "hundreds or thousands of dollars"? | Dec 29 06:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | So even if it was cheap canned veggies, pantry staples, and stuff, yes, perhaps thousands of dollars. | Dec 29 06:32 |
schestowitz | I assume canned, but you mentioned sugar | Dec 29 06:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, sugar isn't terribly expensive. | Dec 29 06:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe two bucks for each 4 pound bag. | Dec 29 06:32 |
schestowitz | canned vegs also | Dec 29 06:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | Canned vegetables? well, she doesn't buy generic | Dec 29 06:33 |
schestowitz | a whole BOX of them would be about 20 dollars | Dec 29 06:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | And she shopped at Marsh. | Dec 29 06:33 |
schestowitz | so 10 boxes under a bed... maybe 200 dollars | Dec 29 06:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | So probably $1.50 per can maybe. | Dec 29 06:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | When it would have been 50-75 cents as generic, depending on the store. | Dec 29 06:33 |
schestowitz | still, maybe 400 dollars worth under a bed | Dec 29 06:33 |
schestowitz | and the car boot (trunk) | Dec 29 06:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Okay, so probably closing in on a thousand dollars total over the years based on the amounts I heard of. | Dec 29 06:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Still, god damn... | Dec 29 06:34 |
schestowitz | if you showed this in Tondo, they'd be furious | Dec 29 06:34 |
schestowitz | an aged person collecting food just to spoil | Dec 29 06:34 |
schestowitz | and good food, too | Dec 29 06:34 |
schestowitz | a lot of food is grown where people very old work the fields | Dec 29 06:34 |
schestowitz | and still cannot feed themselves | Dec 29 06:35 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I go through the Walmart buying last day meat and dented cans and bags of flour and sugar they had to tape shut. | Dec 29 06:35 |
schestowitz | Walmart is the future of the US | Dec 29 06:35 |
schestowitz | a bunch of people fighting over cans and bags | Dec 29 06:35 |
schestowitz | and a few oligarchs running the food walmart | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | and the data walmart (amazon) | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | the OS walmart | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | search walmart | Dec 29 06:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maricel had an order for three pair of Apple airpods or whatever they call them. | Dec 29 06:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | $600 worth of earbuds. | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | basically government franchises | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | monopolies | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | unless you work for (with) them, you're finished | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | and they won't care | Dec 29 06:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told Mandy let someone else take it out to her and don't go out there until she's gone. | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | "line up at walmart for your ration" | Dec 29 06:36 |
schestowitz | [06:36] <DaemonFC[m]> Maricel had an order for three pair of Apple airpods or whatever they call them. | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | this is classy | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | they don't even own a house | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | it's mortgaged | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | the bank owns it | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | but it's about keeping up appearance | Dec 29 06:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Don't forget came to foreclose on it. | Dec 29 06:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sued them. Settled out of court. | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | classic Filipino mindset, not limited to .ph BTW | Dec 29 06:37 |
schestowitz | "I don't have a toilet" | Dec 29 06:38 |
schestowitz | "but... I have IPHONE!!" | Dec 29 06:38 |
schestowitz | "I am.... smart and rich" | Dec 29 06:38 |
schestowitz | (BTW, the 'iPhone is on monthly installments... so you don't own that either ;-) ) | Dec 29 06:38 |
schestowitz | I see lots of these fools with their "Doctor [sic] Dre" BS "beats" | Dec 29 06:39 |
schestowitz | to show they can afford the overhyped brand | Dec 29 06:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | I just bought my phone with cash. | Dec 29 06:39 |
schestowitz | you pay for marketing of this "made in China" plastic crap | Dec 29 06:39 |
schestowitz | and then you have some old phone with nothing but lousy, lossy mp3 and headphones jack on it | Dec 29 06:39 |
schestowitz | so you get no benefits out of better-quality headphones anyway | Dec 29 06:40 |
schestowitz | but these people are so "smart" they don't even know anything about audio and hi-fi | Dec 29 06:40 |
schestowitz | the important thing is that each ear of yours says "b" on it (in lowercase, "beats") | Dec 29 06:40 |
schestowitz | so people know, "I can afford!" | Dec 29 06:40 |
schestowitz | they'd be much better off buying something like a Raspberry Pi (basically a PC!) with that money | Dec 29 06:41 |
schestowitz | [06:39] <DaemonFC[m]> I just bought my phone with cash. | Dec 29 06:41 |
schestowitz | funny you mention it | Dec 29 06:41 |
schestowitz | in my personal blog I wrote about it a decade ago | Dec 29 06:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because the iPhone is like 4 times as expensive as a really capable Android phone. | Dec 29 06:42 |
schestowitz | I tried to survey shops around here, finding out which shops still allowed it | Dec 29 06:42 |
schestowitz | some shops here no longer accept cash | Dec 29 06:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | But the Microsoft nagware is still after me. | Dec 29 06:42 |
schestowitz | inc. some stores that sell phones | Dec 29 06:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | When I open my photo gallery, there's an occasional plea to sign up for Onedrive and you can select now or later, and it reminds you in a few weeks to sign up for Onedrive. | Dec 29 06:42 |
schestowitz | iPhone is just a brand and digital 'store' with an inferior (limited) selection of "apps" compared to Android | Dec 29 06:43 |
schestowitz | Microsoft works for the US government | Dec 29 06:43 |
schestowitz | not sending a copy of all your photos to Clown Computing is an act of domestic terrorism for sure | Dec 29 06:43 |
schestowitz | next thing you know a DC in Nashville blows up and the FBI, without even knowing who did this, decides it must be some crank who opposes 5G based on a conspiracy theory like "5G causes coronavirus" | Dec 29 06:44 |
schestowitz | new fud just bumped up https://threatpost.com/pgminer-monero-mining-botnet/162209/ | Dec 29 06:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PGMiner, Innovative Monero-Mining Botnet, Surprises Researchers | Threatpost | Dec 29 06:45 | |
schestowitz | this past hour | Dec 29 06:45 |
schestowitz | so you can misconfigure things to let intruders in | Dec 29 06:45 |
schestowitz | not a postgres issue | Dec 29 06:46 |
schestowitz | not a linux issue | Dec 29 06:46 |
schestowitz | but no coverage about NSA back doors | Dec 29 06:46 |
schestowitz | that doesn't matter, does it? | Dec 29 06:46 |
schestowitz | for sites like "Threatpost" | Dec 29 06:46 |
schestowitz | The threat is not back doors | Dec 29 06:46 |
schestowitz | it's sysadmins who are poorly trained | Dec 29 06:46 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The puff pieces actually reveal how little vision Bill Gates had. | Dec 29 06:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | He was opposed to the Xbox. | Dec 29 06:51 |
schestowitz | Bill Gates and vision? | Dec 29 06:52 |
schestowitz | He had schemes | Dec 29 06:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hard sell to get him to approve it. | Dec 29 06:52 |
schestowitz | not vision | Dec 29 06:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | THey had to get that one past him and he almost blocked it. | Dec 29 06:52 |
schestowitz | how to kill competitors, that was the priority | Dec 29 06:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | Now they say it's one of their highest performing business units. | Dec 29 06:53 |
schestowitz | they might just lie | Dec 29 06:53 |
schestowitz | xbox lost billions | Dec 29 06:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | He almost cost them something that outperforms Windows or Office, for crying out loud. | Dec 29 06:53 |
schestowitz | the earlier models | Dec 29 06:53 |
schestowitz | not sure about the latest | Dec 29 06:53 |
schestowitz | but I doubt it sells too well, either | Dec 29 06:53 |
schestowitz | studios bought by the xbox unit were shut down | Dec 29 06:54 |
schestowitz | like several we wrote about | Dec 29 06:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | They spun off Bungie into its own company again. | Dec 29 06:54 |
schestowitz | so waste of money | Dec 29 06:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're doing games for the Playstation as well now like Destiny. | Dec 29 06:54 |
schestowitz | buying, killing, then letting go | Dec 29 06:54 |
schestowitz | minecraft... one heck of a waste of money? | Dec 29 06:54 |
schestowitz | did they ever get anything out of it? | Dec 29 06:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's in the Windows Store. | Dec 29 06:54 |
schestowitz | just because they make games doesn't mean they profit | Dec 29 06:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | They have a Windows 10 special edition of Minecraft. | Dec 29 06:55 |
schestowitz | the US taxpayers bailed out disney | Dec 29 06:55 |
schestowitz | and yet they made many movies | Dec 29 06:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | PPP loans, unemployment benefits for the workers, etc. I guess. | Dec 29 06:55 |
schestowitz | US propaganda to disseminate worldwide for "hegemony" | Dec 29 06:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Disney reopening was a disaster. | Dec 29 06:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Predictably. And yet they tried to open the theme parks anyway. | Dec 29 06:55 |
schestowitz | anyway, I'm not blindly buying into this whole "xbox success" BS | Dec 29 06:56 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2010/04/15/modern-sweatshops/ | Dec 29 06:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Enabling® Slavery™ and Original Xbox Live Dies | Techrights | Dec 29 06:56 | |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/XBox_Reality_Log | Dec 29 06:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | XBox Reality Log - Techrights | Dec 29 06:56 | |
schestowitz | be careful not to repeat Microsoft lies | Dec 29 06:56 |
schestowitz | Xbox is NO success story | Dec 29 06:56 |
schestowitz | they were losing billions last time I checked | Dec 29 06:57 |
schestowitz | MANY businesses run at a loss | Dec 29 06:57 |
schestowitz | where do you think 27 TRILLIONS (soon more) dollars end up? | Dec 29 06:57 |
schestowitz | Some people pocket that money, taxpayers just foot the bill by promising to pay that back in the future | Dec 29 06:57 |
schestowitz | they're done looting the capital | Dec 29 06:58 |
schestowitz | and to maintain a broken system they not loot FUTURE (or prospective, might not even exist, i.e. default/bankruptcy/insolvency) capital | Dec 29 06:58 |
schestowitz | s/not/now | Dec 29 06:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-overrides-trump-veto-of-defense-bill/ar-BB1ciF9I?OCID=ansmsnnews11 | Dec 29 06:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.msn.com | House overrides Trump veto of defense bill | Dec 29 06:59 | |
schestowitz | you get 'news' from Microsoft now? | Dec 29 06:59 |
schestowitz | Come on. | Dec 29 06:59 |
schestowitz | Can't be serious... | Dec 29 06:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | This was dumb. He cost the Senate a day of floor time that they could have been confirming judges with. | Dec 29 06:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Startpage news. | Dec 29 06:59 |
schestowitz | Microsoft 'News' (fired workers this year BTW) celebrating military budget | Dec 29 06:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Links to MSN sometimes. | Dec 29 07:00 |
schestowitz | endless money, some of it ending in Microsoft's bank account | Dec 29 07:00 |
schestowitz | startpage is spyware | Dec 29 07:00 |
schestowitz | anyway | Dec 29 07:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The Microsoft News app in Windows 10 has ads, but the same stories show up on MSN where the ad blocker works. | Dec 29 07:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Most of the built-in apps can be removed, and few are worth keeping around. | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | cnn, msn etc. are rarely accurate news | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | it's curated for and by the owners | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | BTW, it's not a "defense bill" | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | there's lots more in there and it's war, not defense | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | or imperialism | Dec 29 07:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | They finally overrode something, and it was this. | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | calling it "defense bill" misleads the reader | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | as they wish, obviously... | Dec 29 07:01 |
schestowitz | this military budget is monopoly enabler | Dec 29 07:02 |
schestowitz | The USA is finished for ordinary people | Dec 29 07:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Defender | Dec 29 07:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Microsoft Defender - Wikipedia | Dec 29 07:02 | |
schestowitz | all they have left, more of them over time, is expired food under the beds | Dec 29 07:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | I don't get why Microsoft bought GIANT if they were just going to completely rewrite the whole application. | Dec 29 07:03 |
schestowitz | the country's capital is now exclusively controlled by very few families | Dec 29 07:03 |
schestowitz | it's like Russia (post-USSR fall) | Dec 29 07:03 |
schestowitz | I know someone who works on that program | Dec 29 07:03 |
schestowitz | I don't even know if those things are profitable | Dec 29 07:03 |
schestowitz | they try to sell it for Linux now | Dec 29 07:04 |
schestowitz | not a good sign | Dec 29 07:04 |
schestowitz | it means they cannot sell it due to lack of x-platform support | Dec 29 07:04 |
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schestowitz | "Windows Defender was initially based on GIANT AntiSpyware, formerly developed by GIANT Company Software, Inc.[7] The company's acquisition was announced by Microsoft on December 16, 2004" | Dec 29 07:05 |
schestowitz | "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products. It's not a bad product, but bits and pieces are missing." | Dec 29 07:05 |
schestowitz | http://news.zdnet.co.uk/security/0,1000000189,39286351,00.htm | Dec 29 07:05 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Technology News, Analysis, Comments and Product Reviews for IT Professionals | ZDNet | Dec 29 07:05 | |
schestowitz | link is broken now | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | that was a quote from Arno Edelmann, Microsoft's European business security product manager | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | "Usually Microsoft doesn't develop products, we buy products" | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | That's Bill's "genius" | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | who needs to create something? | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | it's not like he could write decent code | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | he's a lousy and corrupt business person | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | who bribes media to paint him as "geek" | Dec 29 07:06 |
schestowitz | Zuckerberg was a geek | Dec 29 07:07 |
schestowitz | an evil one nonetheless as it turned out, even in early college days | Dec 29 07:07 |
schestowitz | Bill was never a geek | Dec 29 07:07 |
schestowitz | he just pretended to be one | Dec 29 07:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | The other antivirus companies were pretty pissed off. | Dec 29 07:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | They still include trialware with most new PCs and try to pressure you into buying it, not realizing that it doesn't work much better. | Dec 29 07:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | Would have been nice if Immigration could have scheduled this appointment a couple months later. | Dec 29 07:12 |
schestowitz | https://www.dailyfreeman.com/news/national/suspect-in-bowling-alley-shooting-served-in-afghanistan/article_90b6b9d5-5bbf-5fc2-b924-c9b62b9ec4fa.html | Dec 29 07:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lawyer: Soldier charged in Rockford shooting may have PTSD | National | dailyfreeman.com | Dec 29 07:13 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I won't have filed our income taxes by the time of our meeting, so I just wrote in the comments that we haven't filed 2020's yet and would do so no later than the IRS deadline of April 15th, 2021. | Dec 29 07:13 |
schestowitz | "served" | Dec 29 07:13 |
schestowitz | occupied | Dec 29 07:13 |
schestowitz | those people serve a corporate empire, at best | Dec 29 07:13 |
schestowitz | the conditions are made to cause them to have to do it | Dec 29 07:13 |
schestowitz | and then they come back home and spread bullets | Dec 29 07:14 |
schestowitz | and they blame "PTSD" | Dec 29 07:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they make it so there are few jobs that you can get fresh out of high school anymore. | Dec 29 07:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then it pressures you to sign up for the military. | Dec 29 07:14 |
schestowitz | yeah | Dec 29 07:14 |
schestowitz | serves the model of the oligarchs | Dec 29 07:15 |
schestowitz | and keep college priced out of reach | Dec 29 07:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was considering telling immigration that I have no Earthly idea what to do with all of this money in the savings account until we know whether Mandy can stay or not. | Dec 29 07:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | But I plan to open him a Roth IRA if they approve his case. | Dec 29 07:15 |
schestowitz | if you "serve" (the oligarchs, by killing loads of people abroad), we MIGHT give you a diploma and you MIGHT find a job | Dec 29 07:15 |
schestowitz | (if your brain still works OK after butchering people) | Dec 29 07:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It shocks me that most people have nothing in savings, at all. | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | ah | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | tell me about it | Dec 29 07:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's not always because they don't have a good job or something. | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | it's phrased wrong, Ryan | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | ask it differently | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | how many people do NOT have debt | Dec 29 07:16 |
kingoffrance | ^ | Dec 29 07:16 |
kingoffrance | yep | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | in your country I reckon only some very old people | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | those with a house | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | and used-to-have jobs | Dec 29 07:16 |
schestowitz | or pensions | Dec 29 07:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | We don't have debt. | Dec 29 07:16 |
kingoffrance | its also velocity to them, they consider it a good thing to some extent things move; savings just sit | Dec 29 07:17 |
schestowitz | the younger ones have mortgages | Dec 29 07:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | I had a lot before the bankruptcy though. | Dec 29 07:17 |
kingoffrance | some of it is purposely designed to make things move | Dec 29 07:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | That was mostly because of dickhead. | Dec 29 07:17 |
schestowitz | the even younger ones loan through 'credit' cardsd | Dec 29 07:17 |
schestowitz | they don't even manage to get a mortgage approved by a bank yet | Dec 29 07:17 |
kingoffrance | its somewhat considered more social to not have savings | Dec 29 07:17 |
schestowitz | [07:16] <DaemonFC[m]> We don't have debt. | Dec 29 07:17 |
schestowitz | You had it and canceled it | Dec 29 07:17 |
kingoffrance | savings is a guy who doesnt have to work; guy who doesnt have to work is not fair | Dec 29 07:18 |
schestowitz | you never paid it back, you filed for bankruptcy to annul about $100,000 in debt | Dec 29 07:18 |
kingoffrance | not pulling their weight etc. | Dec 29 07:18 |
schestowitz | how you racked up THAT much in debt in your mid 30s.... who knows... | Dec 29 07:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Correct, and $20,000 was a car in another state that John got. | Dec 29 07:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | And the rest was mostly legal expenses, living on one income while Immigration wouldn't allow Mandy to work, and medical bills. | Dec 29 07:19 |
schestowitz | https://purpleidea.com/blog/2020/12/28/working-at-amazon/ | Dec 29 07:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Working at Amazon - https://purpleidea.com/ | Dec 29 07:19 | |
schestowitz | kingoffrance: read this | Dec 29 07:19 |
schestowitz | planet fedora yesterday | Dec 29 07:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I quit paying on the car as soon as the plea agreement was negotiated. | Dec 29 07:19 |
schestowitz | after leaving red hat (IBM) he lived on savings | Dec 29 07:19 |
schestowitz | while still asking people to sponsor him/donate | Dec 29 07:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then I stopped paying and drove it around for a while because I didn't need John to shut up anymore. | Dec 29 07:19 |
schestowitz | and after they pay this SAVER he takes a job for BEZOS | Dec 29 07:20 |
schestowitz | that's like those 'nonprofits' who ask you to donate | Dec 29 07:20 |
schestowitz | and then they announce Google becomes a sponsor | Dec 29 07:20 |
schestowitz | or worse -- Microsoft | Dec 29 07:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | We were going under fast, schestowitz I had paid the hotel up as much as I could and then used cash on hand to keep paying them. | Dec 29 07:20 |
schestowitz | and you just pause there and think, "wth? I paid this bugger and then I'm just one of GAFAM?" | Dec 29 07:20 |
schestowitz | SFC, OSI etc. do this | Dec 29 07:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was sheer luck that Mandy got his work authorization before the money ran out for real that time. | Dec 29 07:21 |
schestowitz | some people DONATED to the LF ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ | Dec 29 07:21 |
schestowitz | Maybe some people STILL do | Dec 29 07:21 |
schestowitz | or paid commissions with their plastic card purchases | Dec 29 07:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: About $35,000 of that debt was zombie. | Dec 29 07:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | Hospital bills I had racked up years ago and walked away and nobody sued. | Dec 29 07:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Things like that. | Dec 29 07:22 |
schestowitz | who lost the money then? | Dec 29 07:22 |
schestowitz | that you never paid back? | Dec 29 07:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | Theoretically, someone who paid their hospital bill. | Dec 29 07:22 |
schestowitz | great system you got there | Dec 29 07:23 |
schestowitz | maybe nationalise the bugger | Dec 29 07:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Factually, they just make up obscene numbers and don't explain how they arrived at those figures. | Dec 29 07:23 |
schestowitz | and actually look after people's health | Dec 29 07:23 |
schestowitz | seems like hospitals there become banks | Dec 29 07:23 |
schestowitz | with their DEBT COLLECTORS | Dec 29 07:23 |
schestowitz | in-house or contracted | Dec 29 07:23 |
schestowitz | can a hospital initiative a foreclosure? | Dec 29 07:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, they size you up for a lawsuit and if you're not worth it maybe they just don't ever sue you. | Dec 29 07:24 |
schestowitz | it's a strategy | Dec 29 07:24 |
schestowitz | not good for people's seleep | Dec 29 07:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "can a hospital initiative a fore"> They can garnish your bank account and salary up to an amount allowed by state law. | Dec 29 07:24 |
schestowitz | but helps squeeze money for "peace of mind" | Dec 29 07:24 |
schestowitz | also keeps some lawyers employed | Dec 29 07:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's usually what a court will allow. | Dec 29 07:25 |
schestowitz | even if just for "being advisors" | Dec 29 07:25 |
schestowitz | so the hosptials work with the banks | Dec 29 07:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Illinois doesn't allow garnishments on bank accounts if it would bring you under $4,000 in total. | Dec 29 07:25 |
schestowitz | what next? Apple Store? | Dec 29 07:25 |
schestowitz | Can Apple Store also "garnish your bank account and salary up to an amount allowed by state law"? | Dec 29 07:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | And you can't garnish someone if it will bring them under $1,950 in take home pay per month. | Dec 29 07:25 |
schestowitz | In disneyland USA I guess that might come next | Dec 29 07:25 |
schestowitz | so basically it keeps people from starvation | Dec 29 07:26 |
kingoffrance | i dont follow these things https://www.bankrate.com/banking/federal-reserve/how-negative-interest-rates-work/ but i think they would love that | Dec 29 07:26 |
schestowitz | but not homelessness | Dec 29 07:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Negative Interest Rates: Definition and How They Work | Bankrate | Dec 29 07:26 | |
schestowitz | and then of course you can "JOIN THE ARMY" and "serve" | Dec 29 07:26 |
schestowitz | kingoffrance: we have that already | Dec 29 07:27 |
schestowitz | it's called inflation | Dec 29 07:27 |
kingoffrance | yep; its just the next level; they want "action" | Dec 29 07:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Social Security can't be garnished, but only two month's worth in a bank account is protected by federal law. | Dec 29 07:27 |
schestowitz | banks here don't give even 1% interest rates | Dec 29 07:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | So time for cash in a cigar box. | Dec 29 07:27 |
schestowitz | not even if you lock an account down for YEARS | Dec 29 07:27 |
schestowitz | it's just a blackmailing tactic | Dec 29 07:27 |
schestowitz | like the vaccine tactics | Dec 29 07:27 |
schestowitz | won't participate in pfizer trial? CANNOT TRAVEL | Dec 29 07:28 |
schestowitz | of course the super-rich have their own 'banks' and offshore accounts | Dec 29 07:28 |
schestowitz | so all those things don't affect them | Dec 29 07:28 |
schestowitz | they profit from 'business' like "speculation on X" | Dec 29 07:28 |
schestowitz | where X can be "priced of food to go up in Africa" | Dec 29 07:28 |
schestowitz | or X="water to become scarce" | Dec 29 07:28 |
schestowitz | [07:27] <DaemonFC[m]> So time for cash in a cigar box. | Dec 29 07:29 |
schestowitz | They try to cancel cash | Dec 29 07:29 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/26/covid19-boxing-day/ | Dec 29 07:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Boxing People | Techrights | Dec 29 07:29 | |
schestowitz | e.g. artificially limited the money supply or cash in circulation | Dec 29 07:29 |
schestowitz | and changing that money/bartering often | Dec 29 07:30 |
schestowitz | so you need to hop from one version to the next or the value will diminish | Dec 29 07:30 |
schestowitz | in India they went a step ahead | Dec 29 07:30 |
schestowitz | they basically didn't give people a change to deposit cash | Dec 29 07:30 |
schestowitz | they just canceled lots of it | Dec 29 07:30 |
schestowitz | and then said this cash was just "crime" anyway | Dec 29 07:30 |
schestowitz | so people who saved physical money saw their savings canceled | Dec 29 07:31 |
kingoffrance | i think someone in here posted the credit scores tied to search history | Dec 29 07:31 |
schestowitz | the "going digital" thing there is Modi/Gates pushing for surveillance monopolies | Dec 29 07:31 |
kingoffrance | yes, they dont want that turned around on them | Dec 29 07:31 |
schestowitz | I did, yes | Dec 29 07:31 |
kingoffrance | i can only trust bank/business/whoever if i have all their employees search history | Dec 29 07:31 |
kingoffrance | do it to them, they will 180 | Dec 29 07:31 |
kingoffrance | they dont want to live under the systems they create for everyone else | Dec 29 07:31 |
schestowitz | There is also this https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/the-us-government-admits-to-using-the-patriot-act-to-collect-web-browsing-information/ | Dec 29 07:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | The US government admits to using the Patriot Act to collect web browsing information | Dec 29 07:32 | |
kingoffrance | theyve got a way of exempting themselves first, and then come up with great ideas for everyone else | Dec 29 07:32 |
schestowitz | I think you allude to IMF (more recent) https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/imf-suggests-that-your-credit-score-could-be-based-on-your-internet-history/ | Dec 29 07:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | IMF suggests that your credit score could be based on your internet history | Dec 29 07:33 | |
kingoffrance | yeah | Dec 29 07:33 |
schestowitz | well, the resistance is brewing | Dec 29 07:33 |
schestowitz | COVID is a symptom | Dec 29 07:33 |
schestowitz | there will be major change, but it won't be pretty | Dec 29 07:34 |
schestowitz | the media will take its owners' side | Dec 29 07:34 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can you read an IBM article I did? | Dec 29 07:34 |
schestowitz | it's short, 2 paras | Dec 29 07:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Dec 29 07:36 |
Techrights-sec | little memntion of the copyright grab in the "stimulus" bill. | Dec 29 07:36 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks! http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/ibm-diversity/ | Dec 29 07:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Likes to Speak About Diversity in Order to Distract or Confuse People About IBM’s Past and Present | Techrights | Dec 29 07:37 | |
schestowitz | there's a video there too in case you are interested | Dec 29 07:37 |
Techrights-sec | https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/12/28/gpio-screw-terminal-hat-for-raspberry-pi-adds-leds-and-gpio-markings/ | Dec 29 07:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | GPIO screw terminal HAT for Raspberry Pi adds LEDs and GPIO markings | Dec 29 07:38 | |
DaemonFC[m] | Looks good. | Dec 29 07:44 |
schestowitz | cheers | Dec 29 07:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: A lot of the proposals that ended up in Fedora 33 seem to be working out well, in practice. | Dec 29 07:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was surprised at just how well the kind of stuff Linux crams into the swap compresses. | Dec 29 07:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | Windows too, for that matter. | Dec 29 07:45 |
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schestowitz | if RAM is abundant... why compress? | Dec 29 07:46 |
schestowitz | it would surely have a performance tool | Dec 29 07:46 |
schestowitz | toll | Dec 29 07:46 |
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schestowitz | even if implemented at hardware level | Dec 29 07:47 |
schestowitz | would take up more power | Dec 29 07:47 |
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schestowitz | fotr obese OSes | Dec 29 07:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not much of one, really, with modern compression schemes. | Dec 29 07:47 |
schestowitz | compression is ALWayS more costly than none | Dec 29 07:47 |
schestowitz | you cannot change maths | Dec 29 07:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't really get employed much until the system comes under pressure. | Dec 29 07:47 |
schestowitz | and store data in memory isn't a case of pay more to use more | Dec 29 07:47 |
schestowitz | swapless fine | Dec 29 07:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | Chromebooks do it. | Dec 29 07:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | And they tend to use a Celeron or something. | Dec 29 07:48 |
schestowitz | but if you don't use swap, you'd assume lots of ram anyway | Dec 29 07:48 |
schestowitz | compression won't be needed until it's running low | Dec 29 07:48 |
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schestowitz | chromebooks are OK hardware | Dec 29 07:49 |
schestowitz | with s*** 'software' on it | Dec 29 07:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | Linux needs better game controller support I've noticed. | Dec 29 07:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | The most common game controllers are too difficult to set up, and especially to get them recognized by Wine. | Dec 29 07:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | You'd think someone would be interested in fixing that one. | Dec 29 07:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Xbox 360 controller should be well supported, but it really isn't unless you're talking some titles on Steam. | Dec 29 07:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was glad to see that Sony is contributing a proper PS5 controller driver to Linux. | Dec 29 07:55 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because Ubuntu had updated the "dbx" (whatever that is), I had to reset the Secure Boot on the older laptop to factory default to get Fedora to boot up. | Dec 29 07:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | That was a known issue related to "boothole". | Dec 29 07:57 |
scientes | schestowitz, yes, zram is silly | Dec 29 08:26 |
scientes | but i guess it is somewhat of an extension of overallocate | Dec 29 08:27 |
scientes | which is a cornerstone of Linux | Dec 29 08:27 |
scientes | except it makes it woorse | Dec 29 08:27 |
scientes | because you can OOM just by changing the ram you have already allocated | Dec 29 08:27 |
scientes | ^^^ | Dec 29 08:27 |
scientes | because not everything compresses the same | Dec 29 08:27 |
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psydroid | https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share | Dec 29 08:59 |
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schestowitz | windows down sharply | Dec 29 09:18 |
schestowitz | wow | Dec 29 09:19 |
schestowitz | lowest ever https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202011 | Dec 29 09:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats | Dec 29 09:19 | |
schestowitz | no december data yet https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share#monthly-200901-202012 | Dec 29 09:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Operating System Market Share Worldwide | StatCounter Global Stats | Dec 29 09:21 | |
schestowitz | oh, actuallty there is | Dec 29 09:22 |
schestowitz | 31.8% for Windows | Dec 29 09:22 |
psydroid | it will be interesting to see where things stand in a few months from now | Dec 29 09:37 |
schestowitz | I've made a quick video about it | Dec 29 09:53 |
schestowitz | bbiab | Dec 29 09:53 |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/29/windows-sliding/ | Dec 29 09:56 |
schestowitz | here | Dec 29 09:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | According to Statcounter, Microsoft Windows Reaches Lowest Market Share Since 1990s (Now Just 31.8%) | Techrights | Dec 29 09:56 | |
schestowitz | report typos if any found | Dec 29 09:56 |
psydroid | I haven't found any | Dec 29 10:01 |
psydroid | but as you also put a link in the daily links to an article about Huawei selling laptops with their own CPUs and GNU/Linux a few days ago, it's becoming clear that Microsoft doesn't have the kind of influence over the computer industry that it used to have, so more companies are trying to break free | Dec 29 10:05 |
Techrights-sec | https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-11512-cia_vs_wikile | Dec 29 10:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Dec 29 10:10 | |
Techrights-sec | https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-11512-cia_vs_wikileaks | Dec 29 10:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.ccc.de - CIA vs. Wikileaks | Dec 29 10:11 | |
schestowitz | psydroid: yes, it is not just their MateBook anymore | Dec 29 10:11 |
schestowitz | more product lines come with Debian-based Kylin or similar | Dec 29 10:11 |
schestowitz | oh, Deepin | Dec 29 10:11 |
schestowitz | I think Kylin it the one Canonical tried pulling off, with Ubuntu base | Dec 29 10:11 |
schestowitz | brb, going to do a video on systemd | Dec 29 10:12 |
scientes | A branch, a tag, and a reflog walk into a bar. The bartender says, "What is this, some sort of rebase?" | Dec 29 10:55 |
scientes | oh geeze | Dec 29 10:55 |
schestowitz | get a rebate on a fork | Dec 29 11:02 |
Techrights-sec | https://youtu.be/TqmM53W8nN0 | Dec 29 11:26 |
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schestowitz | https://youtu.be/ZSu4rCizyUM | Dec 29 12:58 |
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scientes | If I was snowden I would be bored of saying the same thing in every interview | Dec 29 13:08 |
XRevan86 | > In many Indochina dialects, "main" is an ethnic slur. | Dec 29 14:08 |
XRevan86 | ouch | Dec 29 14:08 |
MinceR | lol | Dec 29 14:08 |
scientes | what about bottom? | Dec 29 14:09 |
scientes | hehehehehe | Dec 29 14:09 |
MinceR | XRevan86: where is that quote from? | Dec 29 14:09 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Pohoronix forums | Dec 29 14:09 |
scientes | XRevan86, try using C-lang | Dec 29 14:09 |
XRevan86 | https://phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1229004?p=1229050#post1229050 | Dec 29 14:09 |
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scientes | XRevan86, ummmmm he is just trolling | Dec 29 14:10 |
scientes | main is a C thing | Dec 29 14:10 |
XRevan86 | scientes: of course, but still as valid as the other thing :) | Dec 29 14:10 |
scientes | virtuous victim construct. | Dec 29 14:11 |
scientes | I think too much thinking about this stuff is a mental disease | Dec 29 14:11 |
scientes | even if you claim to be trolling | Dec 29 14:11 |
MinceR | XRevan86: thx | Dec 29 14:12 |
XRevan86 | scientes: People are annoyed by ridiculous changes made in the name of Justice. | Dec 29 14:13 |
XRevan86 | Radicalisation or something. | Dec 29 14:13 |
scientes | yeah, but both seem to have no real problems | Dec 29 14:13 |
XRevan86 | Meanwhile, in Russia: the criteria on what a Foreign Agent is have been widely extended to pretty much anyone. | Dec 29 14:15 |
XRevan86 | Including individuals who do any sort of activism AND get *any* kind of help from abroad. | Dec 29 14:16 |
scientes | XRevan86, isn't that always the definition of *them*? | Dec 29 14:16 |
XRevan86 | And also every quote from a Foreign Agent has to be marked as such under the penalty of law. | Dec 29 14:17 |
scientes | ok, that is rediculous | Dec 29 14:17 |
scientes | "You can't say anything simon said without first prefacing it with 'Simon said'" | Dec 29 14:17 |
XRevan86 | oh good, meduza.io/en covered that: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/28/what-you-need-to-know-about-russia-s-updated-foreign-agent-laws | Dec 29 14:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Dec 29 14:17 | |
XRevan86 | Just As Bad As It sounds | Dec 29 14:18 |
scientes | oh this is such typical stuff | Dec 29 14:19 |
*scientes had a fetish for laws which you are always on the wrong side of | Dec 29 14:19 | |
XRevan86 | Navalny's FBK couldn't shed the Foreign Agent status, but I guess that no longer matters: under the new laws they deserve that status fair and square. | Dec 29 14:20 |
scientes | XRevan86, but it is clear that anyone is not paid by the state is a foreign agent, until they are purged for being foreign agents | Dec 29 14:22 |
XRevan86 | scientes: If you live in a village with no Internet and have no connections… to anything, you're safe. | Dec 29 14:24 |
XRevan86 | If not, you just might face a felony. | Dec 29 14:24 |
XRevan86 | (yes, there's a felony involved) | Dec 29 14:24 |
scientes | yeah, that's exactly why it is the above | Dec 29 14:24 |
scientes | if you are a employee of the state you can, by definition, not be a foreign agent | Dec 29 14:25 |
scientes | until you are purged | Dec 29 14:25 |
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scientes | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/12/15/they-found-a-foot-and-a-bottle-of-vodka | Dec 29 14:30 |
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XRevan86 | Russia's consistently becoming more and more dystopian. Can't put that on the 2020 list as it's not just this year. | Dec 29 14:34 |
XRevan86 | Although the Constitution amendments were a very big step. | Dec 29 14:34 |
scientes | https://meduza.io/impro/X8RBEBGqvYykNBaMawq6ApILgpvu_2OR6VXmG6mYgEE/fill/2670/0/ce/0/aHR0cHM6Ly9tZWR1/emEuaW8vaW1hZ2Uv/YXR0YWNobWVudHMv/aW1hZ2VzLzAwNi8y/NjMvOTcxL29yaWdp/bmFsLzkzTFFrcXg1/c0lRZl9wNlRqQlFu/MHcuanBn.jpg | Dec 29 14:35 |
scientes | ewwwwww | Dec 29 14:35 |
scientes | they use webP cause they are idiots | Dec 29 14:35 |
scientes | and now firefox has to support the stupid format | Dec 29 14:35 |
MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Dkd5xQE.png | Dec 29 14:36 |
scientes | because it is now impossible to stop the feature creep | Dec 29 14:36 |
XRevan86 | I wanted to defend WebP but after WebP 2 I don't bother. | Dec 29 14:36 |
MinceR | what is so bad about webp 2? | Dec 29 14:36 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: WebP is already obsolete. | Dec 29 14:37 |
MinceR | ic | Dec 29 14:38 |
XRevan86 | It just got some adoption and already being phased out. | Dec 29 14:38 |
XRevan86 | that's just annoying | Dec 29 14:38 |
scientes | JPEG is a great format | Dec 29 14:38 |
scientes | however it looks like AVIF will have some success | Dec 29 14:40 |
scientes | WebP had a shittily maintained shared library too | Dec 29 14:40 |
scientes | like chromium people forked protobuf, andprotobuf is a google package! | Dec 29 14:41 |
scientes | they are shit at maintaining software | Dec 29 14:41 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Just ask anyone who dealt with Android. | Dec 29 14:41 |
XRevan86 | except MinceR, not MinceR :) | Dec 29 14:41 |
scientes | yeah, my android disk space analyzer thinks internal memory is sdcard | Dec 29 14:41 |
scientes | and sdcard is internal | Dec 29 14:42 |
XRevan86 | scientes: No, I mean on the code level. | Dec 29 14:42 |
scientes | that too | Dec 29 14:42 |
scientes | but this is an example that bubbled up | Dec 29 14:42 |
scientes | > | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | Note: Guetzli uses a significant amount of CPU time. You should count on using about 1 minute of CPU per 1 MPix of input image. | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | geeze | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | pretty fucking useless | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | for a few kbs | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | Note: Guetzli uses a large amount of memory. You should provide 300MB of memory per 1MPix of the input image. | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | why? | Dec 29 14:44 |
scientes | just use the 30% more space | Dec 29 14:44 |
MinceR | and 30% more bandwidth | Dec 29 14:47 |
MinceR | and 30% more space in everyone's cache :> | Dec 29 14:47 |
MinceR | is this for compression or decompression though? | Dec 29 14:48 |
scientes | <MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/Dkd5xQE.png | Dec 29 14:48 |
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scientes | nice | Dec 29 14:48 |
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scientes | XRevan86, webp sucks https://wyohknott.github.io/image-formats-comparison/#abandonned-factory&webm=t&webp=t | Dec 29 14:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wyohknott.github.io | Image formats comparison | Dec 29 14:50 | |
scientes | look how good that image is with av1 | Dec 29 14:52 |
scientes | yeah i'm convinced av1 is nice | Dec 29 14:54 |
scientes | and noticably better than webp and jpeg | Dec 29 14:54 |
scientes | I am so tired of how all the "clouds" over-charge people for bandwidth | Dec 29 15:01 |
scientes | mainly because it makes my internet experience considerably woorse | Dec 29 15:01 |
scientes | with news sites that lazy-load images | Dec 29 15:01 |
scientes | YouTube clearly prooves that these "clouds" (including Google lol hypocricy) are lying | Dec 29 15:02 |
scientes | about the cost of bandwidth | Dec 29 15:02 |
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scientes | and half the cost of YouTube is the spying | Dec 29 15:05 |
scientes | infrasturcutre-wise | Dec 29 15:05 |
scientes | lol Keith Alexander went from NSA -> Amazon.com | Dec 29 15:07 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20072521 | Dec 29 15:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4781048) | Dec 29 15:16 | |
scientes | MinceR, XRevan86 can tell you what is wrong with that | Dec 29 15:17 |
scientes | bool in SQL: yes, no, maybe | Dec 29 15:17 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 29 15:17 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: Um, this is about SQL keywords typically being written in all capitalised letters. | Dec 29 15:19 |
XRevan86 | SELECT foo FROM bar; | Dec 29 15:19 |
XRevan86 | CREATE TABLE bar (foo BOOLEAN NOT NULL); | Dec 29 15:20 |
XRevan86 | https://modern-sql.com/concept/three-valued-logic I'll throw this in just in case. | Dec 29 15:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-modern-sql.com | Modern SQL: Three-Valued Logic (3VL) — Purpose, Benefits and Special Cases | Dec 29 15:24 | |
schestowitz | [14:34] <XRevan86> Russia's consistently becoming more and more dystopian. Can't put that on the 2020 list as it's not just this year. | Dec 29 15:36 |
schestowitz | I noticed daily covid deaths increasing | Dec 29 15:37 |
schestowitz | how many sputnik v jabs were administered | Dec 29 15:37 |
schestowitz | and.... any evidence they are effective? | Dec 29 15:37 |
MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/720092.jpg | Dec 29 15:39 |
schestowitz | heh | Dec 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | i had my nap already | Dec 29 15:41 |
schestowitz | now I'm good till 2am or something like that | Dec 29 15:41 |
MinceR | :) | Dec 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | any topic suggestions for video? | Dec 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | I did systemd this morning | Dec 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | we mostly wrap up topics we've long covered, I think | Dec 29 15:45 |
schestowitz | they will run out at some stage | Dec 29 15:45 |
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scientes | MinceR, since when do they allow cats on jetBlue? | Dec 29 16:41 |
MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Dec 29 16:55 |
MinceR | maybe the human just took that mask home | Dec 29 16:55 |
MinceR | also, it could be an emotional support cat | Dec 29 16:55 |
scientes | how do you know its a human? | Dec 29 17:01 |
scientes | Maximum dimensions 2,147,483,647×2,147,483,647 pixels | Dec 29 17:01 |
MinceR | i assumed its species | Dec 29 17:01 |
scientes | why do they even specify when its that big? | Dec 29 17:01 |
MinceR | that's what she said. | Dec 29 17:01 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/2007256 | Dec 29 17:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4780823) | Dec 29 17:04 | |
schestowitz | XRevan86: "219,872 people died in Russia in November 2020. Compared to November 2019, the country recorded 78,541 excess deaths — an increase of 56 percent." https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/12/28/rosstat-russia-recorded-nearly-79-000-excess-deaths-in-november-2020 | Dec 29 17:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Dec 29 17:20 | |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20072372 | Dec 29 17:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4778368) | Dec 29 17:22 | |
scientes | schestowitz, they are faking the numbers | Dec 29 17:29 |
scientes | garbage in garbage out | Dec 29 17:29 |
schestowitz | question is | Dec 29 17:30 |
schestowitz | who fakes? | Dec 29 17:30 |
schestowitz | the government? | Dec 29 17:30 |
schestowitz | the truth might be somewhere in between AND... | Dec 29 17:30 |
schestowitz | the source of this data will or should be the point of focus | Dec 29 17:30 |
schestowitz | and whether that corresponds to death certs | Dec 29 17:30 |
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scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU | Dec 29 17:40 |
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MinceR | :) | Dec 29 17:40 |
tr_guest|64021 | http://techrights.org/2020/11/17/real-rms/ was a great read, thank you very much | Dec 29 17:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real Richard Stallman is Not Coming Back | Techrights | Dec 29 17:41 | |
*MinceR settles for vrms instead | Dec 29 17:41 | |
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tr_guest|64021 | what does the v stand for! | Dec 29 17:42 |
MinceR | virtual | Dec 29 17:42 |
tr_guest|64021 | I like it | Dec 29 17:42 |
tr_guest|64021 | have a nice day | Dec 29 17:42 |
scientes | 100 years of Finland | Dec 29 17:43 |
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scientes | they played that at the 100 year celebration of finland | Dec 29 17:44 |
*scientes has vrms installed | Dec 29 17:45 | |
scientes | great app | Dec 29 17:45 |
schestowitz | lol | Dec 29 17:48 |
schestowitz | RMS and app | Dec 29 17:48 |
scientes | big reason I stick to debian actually | Dec 29 17:48 |
schestowitz | cloudRMS: coming soon! | Dec 29 17:48 |
schestowitz | scientes: same here | Dec 29 17:49 |
scientes | the debian FTP master is pretty serious about actually auditing new packages | Dec 29 17:49 |
scientes | and making sure non-free stuff does not sneak in | Dec 29 17:49 |
schestowitz | canonical became all about SNAPS | Dec 29 17:49 |
scientes | unlike, lets say, ArchLinux | Dec 29 17:49 |
schestowitz | Skype, Spotify... | Dec 29 17:49 |
scientes | those snap people are crazy too | Dec 29 17:50 |
scientes | the developers | Dec 29 17:50 |
scientes | I had one of them tell me that an internal sort was silly | Dec 29 17:50 |
schestowitz | “The more progressive elements among the kleptocracy that passes itself off as government in this country is aware that what would be truly needed for long-term social cohesion, and long-term successful governance, would involve a reversal of the ongoing stratification of society under monopoly capitalism” https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/28/when-the-landlords-say-fuck-you/ | Dec 29 17:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When the Landlords Say, "Fuck You" - CounterPunch.org | Dec 29 17:51 | |
schestowitz | scientes: popey or another one? | Dec 29 17:51 |
schestowitz | there's one with a long name | Dec 29 17:51 |
schestowitz | hard to pronounce | Dec 29 17:51 |
scientes | I dont remember | Dec 29 17:51 |
MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20072337 | Dec 29 18:02 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4776408) | Dec 29 18:02 | |
scientes | MinceR, do you actually code? | Dec 29 18:04 |
MinceR | i do | Dec 29 18:04 |
scientes | we should make silicon chips that directly run javascript | Dec 29 18:05 |
MinceR | why? | Dec 29 18:05 |
scientes | we wouldn't have to compile it that way | Dec 29 18:05 |
scientes | I mean, this was supposedly a good idea for java | Dec 29 18:05 |
MinceR | parsing javascript in hardware is going to be a colossal waste of die surface | Dec 29 18:06 |
MinceR | it was for java bytecode, which is standardized, and it still seems to have failed | Dec 29 18:06 |
scientes | it is just such an efficient language | Dec 29 18:06 |
MinceR | ARM used to do that, then they replaced it with something else | Dec 29 18:06 |
scientes | I can't imagine implementing more advanced languages in anything else | Dec 29 18:06 |
schestowitz | java? | Dec 29 18:06 |
schestowitz | lol, how often do we still use that on desktops? | Dec 29 18:06 |
scientes | javascript | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | on debian for instance, on your daily thing | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | even worse | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | how much JS is on debian/kde? | Dec 29 18:07 |
scientes | obviously javascript is now the common demoninator lanaguage | Dec 29 18:07 |
MinceR | the only real use case i have for javascript is sandboxing code | Dec 29 18:07 |
scientes | and every language must be impemented in it and in relation to it | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | Microsoft is trying to hijack it | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | via LF | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | with "Open"JS | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | Some Edleman shill from Microsoft | Dec 29 18:07 |
scientes | schestowitz, they already did that with VBScript | Dec 29 18:07 |
schestowitz | and with TypeScript and ShitHub | Dec 29 18:07 |
MinceR | they never give up, as long as they live | Dec 29 18:08 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ | Dec 29 18:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up (Video) - YouTube | Dec 29 18:08 | |
MinceR | they tried lots of tactics against Linux as well, until one worked | Dec 29 18:08 |
schestowitz | turns out he's a Man United fan | Dec 29 18:08 |
schestowitz | I only found out last week | Dec 29 18:08 |
schestowitz | MinceR: they did not kill GNU, not yet | Dec 29 18:08 |
schestowitz | they throw many bucks at the 'problem' | Dec 29 18:08 |
scientes | GNUsteak | Dec 29 18:09 |
scientes | GNUrib | Dec 29 18:09 |
schestowitz | I think we're one of the few sites left to still talk about it | Dec 29 18:09 |
scientes | GNUliver | Dec 29 18:09 |
schestowitz | FSF gave up | Dec 29 18:09 |
schestowitz | afaict | Dec 29 18:09 |
scientes | GNUtongue | Dec 29 18:09 |
psydroid | it could be a thing for FPGAs | Dec 29 18:09 |
scientes | GNUburger | Dec 29 18:09 |
schestowitz | we need alternatives in the coding sense | Dec 29 18:09 |
schestowitz | something to bypass the coup | Dec 29 18:09 |
MinceR | schestowitz: IBM along with an army of corporate SJWs are killing GNU | Dec 29 18:09 |
MinceR | they took out FSF already | Dec 29 18:10 |
schestowitz | not just a Microsoft coup by the way | Dec 29 18:10 |
scientes | GNUroast | Dec 29 18:10 |
schestowitz | IBM, Google, FB... | Dec 29 18:10 |
scientes | schestowitz, you can drink the blood without killing the host | Dec 29 18:10 |
*psydroid cheers for Manchester United too in England at least | Dec 29 18:10 | |
schestowitz | MinceR: some people become rich in the process | Dec 29 18:11 |
schestowitz | bottom feeders | Dec 29 18:11 |
MinceR | scientes: "i vill suck your bluhd" | Dec 29 18:11 |
schestowitz | One even got a job at SFC last month | Dec 29 18:11 |
psydroid | in connection with the article about China (as well as South Korea and Russia) moving to GNU/Linux I also read this article (from an aggregator of soms kind) yesterday, detailing the multi-architecture strategy on the hardware side leaving only GNU/Linux as a viable operating system to run on the various processor implementations | Dec 29 18:12 |
psydroid | https://inf.news/tech/3175114486ac4e113e9f873162a2054d.html | Dec 29 18:12 |
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psydroid | full steam ahead over there | Dec 29 18:13 |
schestowitz | "Loongson 3A5000 is coming: 12nm process, performance improvement by 50%" | Dec 29 18:17 |
schestowitz | ClownFlare link | Dec 29 18:17 |
schestowitz | the site is infected | Dec 29 18:17 |
psydroid | it's a built-in "feature" of the web by now | Dec 29 18:19 |
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schestowitz | Hund, Health, Minimalism https://hunden.linuxkompis.se/2020/12/29/i-have-no-sound-or-vibration-on-my-phone-and-its-great.html | Dec 29 18:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hunden.linuxkompis.se | I have no sound or vibration on my phone and it's great | Hund | Dec 29 18:25 | |
MinceR | "i can't hear the people who call me on the phone and it's great" | Dec 29 18:27 |
psydroid | "I got rid of my phone and it's great" | Dec 29 18:28 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 29 18:28 |
MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/720037.jpg | Dec 29 18:32 |
schestowitz | "In 1999, the programmer and activist Richard Stallman led one related to a lawsuit the company filed against Barnes & Noble to protect a patent covering “1-click” ordering, which he worried would stifle competition in e-commerce." https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/29/style/amazon-abstainers.html | Dec 29 18:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Life Without Amazon (Well, Almost) - The New York Times | Dec 29 18:57 | |
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MinceR | (audio:important) https://youtu.be/ZyCCWuO0mQo | Dec 29 19:16 |
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MinceR | (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/6336e9e4915f4d4c.mp4 | Dec 29 19:36 |
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schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/145947#comment-27638 | Dec 29 19:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install WSL2 and Kali Linux on Windows 10 | Tux Machines | Dec 29 19:53 | |
schestowitz | Some people don't seem to understand (maybe ZDNet) brainwash that this is an attack on GNU/Linux | Dec 29 19:53 |
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Techrights-sec | How did a Vista10 advertisement get into TM? | Dec 29 19:56 |
Techrights-sec | Delete. | Dec 29 19:56 |
Techrights-sec | Or redact | Dec 29 19:56 |
schestowitz | usually he posts Ok things, hence I just left a comment as a "Strike 1" so to speak... sometimes it's enough to discourage BS | Dec 29 19:56 |
Techrights-sec | Still the post needs to be redacted or something. | Dec 29 19:58 |
Techrights-sec | At least remove the links. | Dec 29 19:58 |
MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/713cf39317f0ab5b.jpg | Dec 29 19:58 |
schestowitz | clever | Dec 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | how did he extrapolate the background? | Dec 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | oh, not the same forest | Dec 29 20:05 |
schestowitz | he probably took "close enough" stock photography | Dec 29 20:05 |
Techrights-sec | Ok, but no aspect of the post was related to GNU/Linux or even FOSS. | Dec 29 20:08 |
Techrights-sec | Nor was the underlying message, that of FOSS being not up to par. | Dec 29 20:08 |
schestowitz | if it happens again I'll bite instead of bark | Dec 29 20:09 |
schestowitz | under every rock lurks a scientes | Dec 29 20:38 |
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amreo[m] | Hi. Today schestowitz has written " | Dec 29 21:44 |
amreo[m] | SuzhouMicrosoft is telling us (even confirming) Azure layoffs, in spite of Microsoft pretending to have found an alternative and promising future in Clown Computing. They literally join or come to our primary IRC channel, trying to interject damage-limiting PR." in a article about the china migration. Where can I find microsoft messages? | Dec 29 21:44 |
amreo[m] | In the new index page the post about the IRC log is missing. Is it a error? | Dec 29 21:46 |
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amreo[m] | And the link to the past posts | Dec 29 22:21 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Bri'ish accent, yet Celsius is shown on the screen second. At least shown at all %). | Dec 29 23:07 |
MinceR | bri'ish people have moved to north america before :> | Dec 29 23:08 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Oh, and adopted all the great stuff there? I guess it's part of the naturalisation process. Maybe part of the immigration test. | Dec 29 23:09 |
MinceR | or made a video primarily targeting that market | Dec 29 23:09 |
XRevan86 | How opportunistic. | Dec 29 23:10 |
XRevan86 | > TEMP: barbecue hot / 288°F / 142°C | Dec 29 23:12 |
XRevan86 | fixed it then | Dec 29 23:12 |
XRevan86 | just to keep things more familiar to the target audience %) | Dec 29 23:13 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 29 23:13 |
XRevan86 | > It goes at least 40 feet | Dec 29 23:15 |
XRevan86 | I guess about 15 full legs? | Dec 29 23:15 |
MinceR | lol | Dec 29 23:15 |
XRevan86 | wait, I was looking at half a leg | Dec 29 23:16 |
XRevan86 | about 7 legs | Dec 29 23:16 |
XRevan86 | 27 elbows | Dec 29 23:24 |
MinceR | how many knees? | Dec 29 23:25 |
XRevan86 | It's a joint, a bit small. | Dec 29 23:26 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: But I can tell you it's 160 palms | Dec 29 23:29 |
MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/719711.jpg | Dec 29 23:30 |
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CrystalMath | it's about 25 meV outside now | Dec 29 23:44 |
CrystalMath | no, more like 24... | Dec 29 23:46 |
CrystalMath | it's 25.3 inside though | Dec 29 23:47 |
MinceR | not MeV? | Dec 29 23:47 |
CrystalMath | nope | Dec 29 23:47 |
CrystalMath | millielectronvolts | Dec 29 23:47 |
CrystalMath | astronomers often use electrovolts to express temperature | Dec 29 23:48 |
CrystalMath | though it's energy | Dec 29 23:48 |
MinceR | ic | Dec 29 23:49 |
MinceR | weird custom | Dec 29 23:49 |
CrystalMath | a temperature (equivalent) of 25.3 meV | Dec 29 23:49 |
CrystalMath | is about 20°C | Dec 29 23:49 |
CrystalMath | whereas 24 meV is 11°C | Dec 29 23:49 |
CrystalMath | 20°C is very low, it's only capable of generating infrared | Dec 29 23:50 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: At least it's not football fields. | Dec 29 23:52 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: you would need 1240 meV to get photons of 1 micrometer to be sent out constantly | Dec 29 23:53 |
CrystalMath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_constant | Dec 29 23:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Boltzmann constant - Wikipedia | Dec 29 23:54 | |
CrystalMath | it's 0.08617333262145 meV/K | Dec 29 23:55 |
CrystalMath | 0 Kelvin = kinetic energy 0 eV | Dec 29 23:57 |
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