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XRevan86https://downloads.openwrt.org/releases/19.07.1/Jan 30 00:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-downloads.openwrt.org | Index of /releases/19.07.1/Jan 30 00:03
XRevan86"gaved" – nice new word there…Jan 30 00:03
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psydroidI got my mom a €25 laptop from 2010 and installed Kubuntu, it runs pretty well for having just one coreJan 30 00:51
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danielp3344so I happened across this earlier this morning https://hackaday.com/2010/05/13/transistor-fabrication-so-simple-a-child-can-do-it/Jan 30 01:13
danielp3344it totally ruined my dayJan 30 01:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Transistor Fabrication: So Simple A Child Can Do It | HackadayJan 30 01:13
danielp3344I spent every minute of it researching making ASICs at homeJan 30 01:13
danielp3344And finding suitable coresJan 30 01:14
danielp3344I'm now decently confident that you could actually make a libre cpu at home thoughJan 30 01:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Snowflake is the Linux SSH GUI you didn't know you needed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133467 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8ff1cf93-a718-4022-9af0-caedebc35397]Jan 30 01:14
danielp3344it might be an 8080, but it's possibleJan 30 01:14
danielp3344the libre 8080 I found requires about 10000 transistorsJan 30 01:15
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danielp3344It could be fit on a 50mm square dieJan 30 01:16
danielp3344and run maybe 32MhzJan 30 01:16
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DaemonFC[m]I managed to get Gmail working in Netsurf.Jan 30 01:28
vortigrexdanielp3344: niceJan 30 01:29
DaemonFC[m]If you use a really old Opera Mini on BlackBerry UA.Jan 30 01:29
danielp3344holy #### cowJan 30 01:29
danielp3344vortigrex: I tried compiling a riscv cpuJan 30 01:30
danielp3344its over 6 times larger than the 8080Jan 30 01:30
danielp3344which I guess is to be expected, but its hugeJan 30 01:30
danielp3344supposedly this is the smallest cpu that can run GNU+LinuxJan 30 01:30
vortigrexthat's what she said.Jan 30 01:30
danielp3344vortigrex: do you know of any smaller ones?Jan 30 01:31
danielp3344This is the OR1200Jan 30 01:31
vortigrexi do notJan 30 01:31
vortigrex> If manufacturing printed circuit boards has become too easyJan 30 01:31
vortigrexcan they make multilayer PCBs at home now?Jan 30 01:31
danielp3344hehJan 30 01:31
danielp3344vortigrex: I'm sure I could figure out a way to do thatJan 30 01:32
danielp3344but I shouldn't need toJan 30 01:32
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DaemonFC[m]Apple has the worst font rendering ever.Jan 30 02:29
DaemonFC[m]It's worse than X11 fonts on Motif in CDE on UNIX in 1995.Jan 30 02:29
DaemonFC[m]That's amazing, in a way. Looks like the screen is damaged on a $3,000 laptop.Jan 30 02:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: mintCast, Linux Headlines, FLOSS Weekly, Full Circle Weekly News and GNU/Linux Vloggers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133470 [https://pleroma.site/objects/75283fed-91a0-42d3-a0f2-384e83c11fcd]Jan 30 02:31
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cubexyzvortigrex, what happened to your server?Jan 30 02:36
cubexyzhopefully all you need is a new power supplyJan 30 02:37
vortigrexit froze and made a weird noiseJan 30 02:42
vortigrexit would not turn on againJan 30 02:42
vortigrexthe noise ceased when i unplugged the power supply from itJan 30 02:42
vortigrexthen i noticed that the power supply was also making a weird noise when it was unburdenedJan 30 02:43
vortigrexso i unplugged that tooJan 30 02:43
vortigrexi think something burned in the machine judging by the smell and the black marks in it, but maybe that occurred beforeJan 30 02:43
vortigrexits USB subsystem seemed to have died a while ago, though i didn't reboot to check if it was just a software issue or hardware died (i assumed the former)Jan 30 02:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: CBS All Access serves ads, but not content, to Linux users http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133472 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0faa874c-f6a5-4b2e-987a-17b95d3b1a6d]Jan 30 02:43
vortigrexdoesn't really matter as i wanted to move most of its functionality to a VPS anywayJan 30 02:44
danielp3344This is really nice software but has really weird ui choicesJan 30 02:44
danielp3344http://opencircuitdesign.com/magic/index.htmlJan 30 02:44
cubexyzmy Cooler Master 500 PS lasted from Apr 24th, 2010 to Oct 17th, 2019Jan 30 02:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opencircuitdesign.com | Magic VLSIJan 30 02:44
vortigrexfwiw the HDD seems to work fine except for the bad sectors that started occurring a while agoJan 30 02:44
cubexyza bit over 9 yearsJan 30 02:44
cubexyzhow old?Jan 30 02:45
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vortigrexi think i built it in 2011Jan 30 02:45
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cubexyzalmost everything I have is older than thatJan 30 02:55
cubexyzmost of the P3's still workJan 30 02:55
cubexyz1998 & 2001Jan 30 02:55
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/longevity-items.txtJan 30 02:57
cubexyzoops, wrong file Jan 30 02:58
cubexyzhttp://www.maxhost.org/other/computer-longevity.txtJan 30 02:59
schestowitzmy main HDD is now surviving 11 yearsJan 30 03:05
schestowitzlast year it went ROJan 30 03:05
schestowitzApparently bad sectorsJan 30 03:05
schestowitzwhich fsck worked aroundJan 30 03:05
schestowitzno issue for the past few months that I can seeJan 30 03:05
cubexyzyeah there's no home repair for hard drivesJan 30 03:05
cubexyzat least I've never managed itJan 30 03:05
danielp3344I had a solid state drive in my laptop a few years back where only the gpt went RO lolJan 30 03:06
danielp3344I used it for like another year and had no issues other than no being able to repartitionJan 30 03:06
danielp3344not being*Jan 30 03:06
cubexyzmy quantum LP52S can't boot but it's 1990 :)Jan 30 03:07
cubexyzsome of this stuff I'm not even sure how old it isJan 30 03:10
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cubexyzthe hp 4470C scanner with the stupid RTS8891 chip is from 2005Jan 30 03:17
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amarsh04my 1998 era SCSI disk died not long before its 20th anniversaryJan 30 03:34
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/01/breaking-cjeu-in-sky-v-skykick-rules.html?showComment=1580337130705#c5592344189658757022Jan 30 06:05
schestowitz"Jan 30 06:05
schestowitz"probably the most important referral in the EU trade mark field made over the past few years" - I think considering the answers of the CJEU that this has turned out to be quite hyperbolic. Jan 30 06:05
schestowitzUsing imprecise terms to designate goods/services is still at the applicant's peril in later infringement proceedings. Jan 30 06:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: CJEU in Sky v SkyKick rules that a trade mark cannot be declared wholly or partially invalid on grounds of lack of clarity and precision of its specifications - The IPKatJan 30 06:05
schestowitzNo intention to use = bad faith, sure, but that is not groundbreaking (apparently already held in the Koton judgment last September?). It also cannot be presumed from lack of economic activity at the time of filing (par. 78), so this barely leaves the opposing party better off in opposition proceedings.Jan 30 06:05
schestowitz"Jan 30 06:05
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DaemonFC[m]Apple: Respect the font designer, not the font grid. Jan 30 13:53
DaemonFC[m]Also Apple: Don't ship a display that's actually good enough to pull this off.Jan 30 13:53
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oiaohmAnyone want to attempt to guess if there will be IoT devices in usage in 2038 with a prior to 5.6 Linux kernel so die from the 2038 bug.Jan 30 14:48
XRevan86oiaohm: Did 5.6 do something about it on 32 bits?Jan 30 14:50
XRevan86Oh, it's the message right aboveJan 30 14:54
vortigrexi suspect they'll die earlier for other reasonsJan 30 14:58
vortigrexfor example, they'll pull the servers 5 years after the devices were soldJan 30 14:58
vortigrex(or less)Jan 30 14:58
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oiaohmvortigrex: we are still seeing some new devices made now with Linux 2.0 kernels.Jan 30 15:11
oiaohmYes completely insane.Jan 30 15:11
vortigrexpretty much all of IoT is insaneJan 30 15:11
vortigrexand so's most of ITJan 30 15:11
oiaohmIts like finding out inside about 0.1 percent of flash cards out there is a 8 bit 8051 cpu.Jan 30 15:12
oiaohmhttps://jamesone111.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/exploring-the-transcend-wifi-sd-card/   Linux is not  just inside IoT devices.   There are some quite insane locations you find LinuxJan 30 15:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jamesone111.wordpress.com | Exploring the Transcend Wifi-SD card | James O'Neill's BlogJan 30 15:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133502 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80641894-971f-4c0e-a377-6429757ee333]Jan 30 15:37
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psydroidI installed Slackware 8.1 from 2002 in Virtualbox on the €25 laptops earlier todayJan 30 15:50
psydroidwith KDE 3.0 running it only consumed 140 MB of memoryJan 30 15:51
psydroidlaptop*Jan 30 15:51
vortigrexi spent a day wresting my data from the grip of virtualboxJan 30 15:51
psydroidit's not something I generally use myself, I mostly use QEMUJan 30 15:53
vortigrexsameJan 30 15:53
vortigrex9 years ago i had the dumb idea to improve virtualization performance on a CPU that doesn't support VT-x by using virtualboxJan 30 15:53
DaemonFC[m]> with KDE 3.0 running it only consumed 140 MB of memoryJan 30 15:57
DaemonFC[m]That's still double what BunsenLabs uses.Jan 30 15:57
DaemonFC[m]> 9 years ago i had the dumb idea to improve virtualization performance on a CPU that doesn't support VT-x by using virtualboxJan 30 15:57
DaemonFC[m]A mistake that will henceforth be known as stupid idea number 1.Jan 30 15:57
DaemonFC[m]Virtualbox is hideously unstable and since Secure Boot won't let you load unsigned modules, Fedora includes virtualbox guest addons with their kernel now.Jan 30 15:58
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psydroidI moved away from Virtualbox (again) sometime in 2018 after testing and using QEMU since about 2009, but it was still pretty immature at that time so I couldn't completely rely on it back thenJan 30 16:06
psydroidas for Secure Boot, it's the first thing I disabled on this laptop when I was looking to install Linux on itJan 30 16:06
psydroidI don't want my systems to be held hostage by third partiesJan 30 16:07
danielp3344psydroid: if you could buy a completely libre (and inspectable) cpu that was really slow but could still run GNU+Linux would you?Jan 30 16:08
danielp3344I told my brother about my cpu idea and he immediately said "There's money to be made here" :PJan 30 16:08
psydroidDaniel Peterson, the ARM and PPC hardware I have is going in that direction a little bit, but not as far as I would like it to go, so the answer is an emphatic yesJan 30 16:09
psydroidyes, definitely :)Jan 30 16:09
danielp3344Theoretically if you packaged the cpus in clear epoxy or something like that they could be inspected with a microscopeJan 30 16:10
danielp3344to see if they matched the designJan 30 16:10
danielp3344reproduceable cpu builds :PJan 30 16:11
vortigrexniceJan 30 16:11
psydroidI'm all for libre/open instruction sets and cpus that run libre software :)Jan 30 16:12
danielp3344http://sam.zeloof.xyz/category/semiconductor/ this guy has figured out a lot of what I was looking into actuallyJan 30 16:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sam.zeloof.xyz | Home Chip Lab – Sam ZeloofJan 30 16:13
psydroidwhat annoys me about so many websites is all the Google, FB and whatever JS crap they loadJan 30 16:16
psydroidso those get preemptively blockedJan 30 16:16
danielp3344psydroid: is that site one of them?Jan 30 16:17
psydroidDaniel Peterson: it looks like itJan 30 16:17
psydroidDoubleclick, Google and YouTubeJan 30 16:18
danielp3344fonts from google, one piece of mystery js with a comment that says 'anti spam'Jan 30 16:19
danielp3344that's what my browser loaded anwJan 30 16:19
danielp3344also some images from other sitesJan 30 16:19
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Raspberry Pi, Dead Cells, ULTRAKILL, System Shock, Battle Axe, Iron Danger http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/133507 [https://pleroma.site/objects/28c57bb9-0f18-4a17-9d10-717fbb24c58f]Jan 30 16:20
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psydroidI've been wondering if there is some kind of USB adapter containing a DSP you could use as a VPU for decoding newer video formats in hardware on older laptops where it isn't feasible to replace the GPU or add a (mini-)PCI-E adapterJan 30 16:33
danielp3344hmmmmmJan 30 16:34
danielp3344psydroid: what formats?Jan 30 16:34
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psydroidDaniel Peterson, I meant codecs such as H265, VP8/9 and AV1Jan 30 16:35
psydroidand whatever may come in the more distant futureJan 30 16:37
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oiaohmpsydroid: normally you would run into the USB adapter bandwidth limitation on older.   Remember you old USB 2.0 stuff is one directional.Jan 30 16:45
oiaohmpsydroid: some of you early USB 3.0 controllers are only optimised for one directional transfer as well.Jan 30 16:46
oiaohmpsydroid: It would be stupid to hang a raspberry pi 4 off the side using it USB 2.0 device mode hidden in the USB C  for powering it.  With the monitor for displaying videos you wanted to play connected to the rasbery pi 4.Jan 30 16:48
oiaohmpsydroid: that horrible code work because you would basically dumping the vidoe on to the rasberrypi and have it do the playing completely.Jan 30 16:48
oiaohmcode/couldJan 30 16:48
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psydroidoiaohm, I was thinking more of something in the format of a tiny USB flash drive, if such a thing could exist. The bandwidth and unidirectional nature of these connections could indeed cause problems. It was just something I thought of because the laptop is otherwise fine for everything, making me wonder how a dual or quadcore processor of slightly newer vintage and a better GPU/VPU combination could work for pretty muchJan 30 16:52
psydroidanything but decoding videos usingthese newer codecs.Jan 30 16:52
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DaemonFC[m]There was actually a Walmart gaming computer in 2016 and I looked at it. All the ports were USB 2.Jan 30 20:40
DaemonFC[m]8 years after USB 3 was standardized.Jan 30 20:40
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