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DaemonFC[m]This curry has so much curry and chili powder in it, it would upset Dave Lister.Jun 30 00:00
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: +44,236 covid19 cases todayJun 30 01:03
schestowitzthose are Sunday figuresJun 30 01:03
schestowitzthe baboon would be fumingJun 30 01:04
DaemonFC[m]The Furious Führer Fumes on Twitter.Jun 30 01:10
DaemonFC[m]Mike Pence canceled a bunch of campaign events in Florida.Jun 30 01:10
DaemonFC[m]Obviously, having the RNC in Florida is not going to go over very well.Jun 30 01:11
MinceRFührious?Jun 30 01:25
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DaemonFC[m]Maybe the Windows 10 virus will be less successful in spreading now that nobody is even pretending that the monthly update that bricks your computer is "like Apple". No "Microsoft Store". It was fucking embarrassing anyway. Like they had this thing called Miracast which was just like DLNA, if DLNA didn't work at all.Jun 30 02:28
DaemonFC[m]So I asked the salescritter if he could make it work and he poked around and restarted things and yanked power cords for about 20 minutes and said "Sorry.".Jun 30 02:29
DaemonFC[m]Somewhere halfway in, it connected and mirrored the display and then the laptop immediately crashed with a blue screen of death.Jun 30 02:30
DaemonFC[m]Surface Pro! Jun 30 02:31
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Jun 30 02:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Citi makes up more than a third of coronavirus-related credit card complaints - CNNJun 30 02:43
DaemonFC[m]Not surprised. Citi was the first one to turn me over to collections. One that has a notorious reputation for illegal activities, like calling your neighbors and stuff and telling them about your debts, and ignoring instructions to stop bothering people at work.Jun 30 02:44
DaemonFC[m]The credit card people kick you out to a collection agency like that because it minimizes their own risk and "harm to the brand" to let someone else get nasty with you and break the law for them.Jun 30 02:45
DaemonFC[m]The fact that Citi is getting much nastier with people than other banks are even when it's pretty clear it would be in the long term interest to throw them a bone makes me think that Citi is in more trouble right now and may collapse soon.Jun 30 02:47
DaemonFC[m]Even Capital One is deferring interest and payments while people are on unemployment, for now.Jun 30 02:48
DaemonFC[m]Citi is just going straight for your throat the moment you're late.Jun 30 02:48
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psydreadmaybe the spread of Virus 10 is not going as expected and it's getting killed in our societiesJun 30 06:47
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schestowitz[02:48] <DaemonFC[m]> Even Capital One is deferring interest and payments while people are on unemployment, for now.Jun 30 06:52
schestowitzI hope it diesJun 30 06:52
schestowitzthe unemployment can get yet worse and some businesses that reopen give upJun 30 06:53
DaemonFC[m]What are they doing? Other than swallowing $20,000 I owed them.Jun 30 06:53
schestowitzmany people don't know yet that they're laid off, so deferral is just kicking the can down the roadJun 30 06:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How NLG Members Can Support the People's Strike | National Lawyers GuildJun 30 06:53
schestowitzbigger riots may come... or at least social disobedienceJun 30 06:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: they do nothing, they just 'manage'Jun 30 06:54
schestowitzlike lawyersJun 30 06:54
schestowitzthe financial 'industry'Jun 30 06:54
schestowitz"what do you do for a living"?Jun 30 06:54
schestowitz"I... invest.."Jun 30 06:54
schestowitz"no, mate, what do you DO?"Jun 30 06:54
schestowitz"I sit there at the officer clicking things"Jun 30 06:54
schestowitz"looking at charts"Jun 30 06:55
schestowitz"making calls"Jun 30 06:55
schestowitz"taking a paycheck"Jun 30 06:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Baidu joins Open Invention Network Linux patent protection group | ZDNetJun 30 08:41
schestowitz# article does not link to any authoritative source on the announcementJun 30 08:41
schestowitzsjvnJun 30 08:41
schestowitzdoing IBM's and Microsoft's biddingJun 30 08:41
schestowitzmaybe zdnet asks him toJun 30 08:41
schestowitzcbsJun 30 08:41
schestowitzclose to gates and msftJun 30 08:41
schestowitzappallingJun 30 08:41
schestowitzparrots as 'journalists'Jun 30 08:41
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michaelisHello.Jun 30 10:33
schestowitzhiJun 30 10:56
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oiaohmschestowitz: you missed one of the attractions of using github in the GNU write up.   The fact someone else has to pick up the server maintenance bill other than GNU themselves.Jun 30 12:13
oiaohmOf course that does not make it right to ignore the risks.Jun 30 12:13
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schestowitzoiaohm: I don't get what you meanJun 30 12:21
schestowitzit's actually a riskJun 30 12:22
schestowitzif means it's like Microsoft funds themJun 30 12:22
schestowitzand they become projects at risk of Microsoft shutting down, deciding to bill them etc.Jun 30 12:22
schestowitzThere's no "free lunch"Jun 30 12:22
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The MeatHub | TechrightsJun 30 12:22
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oiaohmschestowitz: GNU running it own servers has to pay for that has well.   Interesting to see how well off they are for doing that.Jun 30 12:51
oiaohmThee could be two risks here not one.Jun 30 12:52
AVRSoiaohm: schestowitz named two risksJun 30 12:58
AVRSthat could be deliberately triggeredJun 30 12:59
schestowitzfinancial control is controlJun 30 13:00
schestowitzlike mortgages, where mort is French for..Jun 30 13:00
schestowitzGNU is not partly at Microsoft's mercy... a terrible situationJun 30 13:01
zoobabI believe Germany is its own right to ratify the UPC, with the Withdrawal Agreement period covering EU law and some 2012 regulation that went immediately into forceJun 30 13:01
schestowitzyou don't replace that which braces youJun 30 13:01
zoobabso filing constitutional complaints will be criticalJun 30 13:01
schestowitzzoobab: Germany can shoot its own footJun 30 13:01
schestowitzit already made a mockery of its Injustice MinistryJun 30 13:02
zoobabbut we should use the 2 months to raise the pressure on the BundestagJun 30 13:02
zoobaband ask for the UPC to be renegotiatedJun 30 13:02
schestowitzit needs to be cannedJun 30 13:02
schestowitzdon't settle for lessJun 30 13:02
schestowitzor else they'll compromise for lesser evilJun 30 13:02
zoobabwe need the CJEU to have a say on patent lawJun 30 13:03
zoobabthis is not acceptable what they have done thereJun 30 13:03
zoobaband fucking up ItalyJun 30 13:03
zoobaball of that because they want the agreement running at any costsJun 30 13:03
schestowitzthey already harmed themselvesJun 30 13:04
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4387214)Jun 30 13:04
schestowitzsome firms' reputationJun 30 13:04
schestowitzsome institutions tooJun 30 13:04
schestowitzlet them have a knockJun 30 13:04
schestowitzeven UK-IPO looks crapJun 30 13:04
schestowitzand CIPA which 'runs' itJun 30 13:04
schestowitzthey already had a stigmaJun 30 13:04
zoobabwhat is good news is that the main justification for cross-broder litigation is meltingJun 30 13:05
schestowitznow they paint over it, to remark the liningsJun 30 13:05
zoobabwith UK's departureJun 30 13:05
schestowitzproving the worse allegations about them and their arroganceJun 30 13:05
schestowitzwhy do they even assume bundestag will pass it?Jun 30 13:05
schestowitzonly about 31 people voted for itJun 30 13:05
zoobab35Jun 30 13:05
schestowitzthey'd need to fool if not bribe lots of peopleJun 30 13:05
schestowitz2/3 majorityJun 30 13:06
schestowitzand in daytime, not 1amJun 30 13:06
zoobabI guess 2/3 majority will depend on the pressure you applyJun 30 13:06
schestowitzthey want us to believe they can pass itJun 30 13:06
schestowitzmomentum by fake newsJun 30 13:06
schestowitzfake assertionJun 30 13:06
schestowitzfalse interpretationJun 30 13:06
zoobabif we apply enough pressure, it will be a 50/50 gameJun 30 13:06
schestowitzmock themJun 30 13:06
schestowitzit can workJun 30 13:06
schestowitzok, so mock themJun 30 13:06
schestowitzbutJun 30 13:06
schestowitzfuck twitterJun 30 13:06
schestowitzquit this crapJun 30 13:06
schestowitzI didJun 30 13:07
schestowitzand one of the reasons I stayed there was your accountJun 30 13:07
zoobabyeah I will, but I need to find a good replacementJun 30 13:07
schestowitzwhich I cannot even read as RSS anymoreJun 30 13:07
zoobabthey broke RSS long agoJun 30 13:07
schestowitzbetter spend time doing a press release a day at ffiiJun 30 13:07
schestowitzno serious person reads tweets and uses them as citable evidenceJun 30 13:07
MinceRdepends on the topicJun 30 13:07
schestowitzquit twitter or use that only to link to your press releasesJun 30 13:07
schestowitzzoobab: they broke itJun 30 13:08
zoobabyeah but writing blog posts takes time for non native personsJun 30 13:08
MinceRthey work pretty well as citable evidence that Agent Orange is insaneJun 30 13:08
MinceR:>Jun 30 13:08
schestowitzbut I found a new fallback (3rd party) every few years)Jun 30 13:08
schestowitzthe latest one broke too, I'm tired of trying to fix something I probably just ought to abandonJun 30 13:08
schestowitzjoin pleroma,Jun 30 13:08
schestowitzthen your stuff will appear here, in real timeJun 30 13:08
schestowitzviera does thatJun 30 13:08
schestowitzyou can join ANY fediverse instance, or make your own, or FFII'sJun 30 13:09
zoobabI have bad experience with FFII infraJun 30 13:09
schestowitz[13:08] <zoobab> yeah but writing blog posts takes time for non native personsJun 30 13:09
zoobabshoemakers have the worst shoesJun 30 13:09
schestowitztweets too can take timeJun 30 13:09
schestowitzif you value their accuracy and avoid typosJun 30 13:09
schestowitzat least you can locate them 10 years down the lineJun 30 13:09
zoobabyeahJun 30 13:09
zoobabthat has valueJun 30 13:09
schestowitztweets have a shelf life of minutes, 24 hours at mostJun 30 13:10
zoobabI was even thinking to go away from wordpress, and have some git based bloggingJun 30 13:10
schestowitzwe waste time pecking at bird fecesJun 30 13:10
zoobabwith static content in there (html+md)Jun 30 13:10
schestowitzhugo?Jun 30 13:10
zoobaba possible agenda for a vote in the Bundestag is the first session of SeptemberJun 30 13:10
zoobabI checked the agendaJun 30 13:11
schestowitzjykell or whatever you spell it is connected to github co-founder iirc, I'd not touch it with a long stickJun 30 13:11
zoobabno one is working there in SeptemberJun 30 13:11
schestowitzso again no 2/3 majorityJun 30 13:11
zoobabsed and awk are enough to generate html from mdJun 30 13:11
schestowitzunless they lie againJun 30 13:11
schestowitzas they did the last timeJun 30 13:11
schestowitzand make another scandal the FCC will look intoJun 30 13:11
zoobabthey will have to buy FDP and some other partiesJun 30 13:11
schestowitzthey can't do it right, only Team UPC will pretend they have the major political parties behind them. They pretend only AfD opposes UPC.Jun 30 13:12
zoobabpeople in NL are also looking at the 2/3 majority for CETAJun 30 13:12
schestowitz 30 13:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Dutch Law Proposes a Wholesale Jettisoning of Human Rights Considerations in Copyright Enforcement | Electronic Frontier FoundationJun 30 13:12
schestowitzyesterday's newsJun 30 13:12
schestowitzwhich I think is relevantJun 30 13:13
schestowitzyou might wanna use itJun 30 13:13
schestowitzcopyright, patentsJun 30 13:13
schestowitzHollyNLwoodJun 30 13:13
zoobabI told those copyright guys to get organized for the ratification in different countriesJun 30 13:14
zoobabbecause you need to escalate once the law is passedJun 30 13:15
schestowitzBTW, is Pilch at EPO still?Jun 30 13:15
schestowitzlast I heard, he was specialising in languagesJun 30 13:15
zoobabdon't think soJun 30 13:15
zoobabhe is out FFIIJun 30 13:16
schestowitzwhere is he? when did you last speak to him?Jun 30 13:16
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schestowitzwhat about Wessel?Jun 30 13:16
zoobabvia FB, but I think he is not anymore on thereJun 30 13:16
schestowitzhe maybe wrote a press release years ago?Jun 30 13:16
zoobabAnte keeps doing stuff via VrijschriftJun 30 13:16
schestowitzcan't think of anyone from ffii would bother with fbJun 30 13:16
zoobablast time I saw him he was frustrated with some travel expenses that were not refundedJun 30 13:17
schestowitzso who's ffii now? Just you?Jun 30 13:17
zoobabthat's probably why he stopeed blogging on blog.ffii.orgJun 30 13:17
zoobabthere is Andre, and MarioJun 30 13:17
schestowitzAndre - I see him around, never in relation to FFIIJun 30 13:17
zoobabbut on UPC none are active anymoreJun 30 13:18
schestowitzIs Andre using Windows? Jun 30 13:18
zoobabno ideaJun 30 13:18
zoobabhe works for a voip company in berlinJun 30 13:18
schestowitzfair enoughJun 30 13:18
zoobabproject management I thinkJun 30 13:18
zoobabI checked it was all Asterisk basedJun 30 13:18
zoobabcloud callsJun 30 13:18
zoobabanywayJun 30 13:19
zoobabI have some people in Berlin, who are interested in making some noiseJun 30 13:19
zoobabwe have 2 little months to make a campaignJun 30 13:20
zoobaband to write a complaintJun 30 13:21
zoobabbut first the submission for fridayJun 30 13:21
zoobabgoing to Morzine for MTBiking on friday, so our submission need to be ready ASAPJun 30 13:21
schestowitzcoolJun 30 13:22
zoobabespecially if the Brexit road-block "dissapears" with the withdrawal agreementJun 30 13:22
schestowitzI'd help bring light to it, as best I can...Jun 30 13:22
schestowitzbut seriously, less twitter, it's a "burning platform"Jun 30 13:22
schestowitzEven advertisers boycott it nowJun 30 13:22
zoobabI heard about CocaCola and FBJun 30 13:23
zoobabbecause they don't want to be seen next to "negative" contentJun 30 13:23
schestowitzyou are days behindJun 30 13:24
schestowitzeven Microsoft now boycotts FBJun 30 13:24
schestowitzwhich is weird, they partly owned itJun 30 13:25
schestowitzand FB passes all the data to MicrosoftJun 30 13:25
schestowitzI think about a dozen companies now boycott FB, Pepsi includedJun 30 13:25
schestowitzUniliver alsoJun 30 13:25
zoobabas long as technically it's not made impossible to censor...Jun 30 13:26
zoobabeven on some of my articles are 'downvoted'Jun 30 13:26
schestowitz Microsoft, Ford, Pepsi Join #Facebook, Instagram Ad Boycott 30 13:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft, Ford, Pepsi Join Facebook, Instagram Ad Boycott | Hollywood ReporterJun 30 13:26
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oiaohmschestowitz:    Really Microsoft – 1.3% – $1.3 Billion on Microsoft books this is not really that much.    Microsoft is in the Trillion dollar class so a billion dollars here or there is not much.Jun 30 13:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Who Owns Facebook? - The 10 Richest Facebook Shareholders - How To Make Money OnlineJun 30 13:34
oiaohmNow if this boycott devalues facebook could allow Microsoft to get higher ownership percentage.Jun 30 13:35
schestowitzThis is a lie: "Microsoft is in the Trillion dollar class so a billion dollars here or there is not much."Jun 30 13:47
schestowitzWall Street is a lieJun 30 13:47
schestowitzand 2008 apparently taught you nothingJun 30 13:47
schestowitztheir fictional valuation or "market caps" are part of a schemeJun 30 13:47
schestowitzit helps the nation receive debt, based on a misconceptionJun 30 13:48
schestowitzalso see: Bernie MadoffJun 30 13:48
schestowitzoiaohm: can I offer you 0.00001% of my company?Jun 30 13:49
schestowitzit'll cost you just one AUS dollarJun 30 13:49
schestowitzand if you say yes, I'll tell you my market cap ;-)Jun 30 13:49
schestowitzAUD = AU dollar (typo)Jun 30 13:49
oiaohmschestowitz: AUS dollar is not exactly 100 percent wrong its is a slang you see as in reference to "Aussie Dollar"  instead of Australian Dollar.   Of course is the same thing.Jun 30 13:53
oiaohmschestowitz: Microsoft is in the proper Trillion dollar market cap.  Microsoft holds 286  Billion in assets.   1.3 billion in facebook if you look at assets is less than half a percent.     Of course even asset valuations and share price valuations are part fiction.Jun 30 14:05
oiaohmThe loss of facebook to Microsoft would be less harmful to Microsoft than if the companies boycotting facebook decide to boycott Microsoft because they did not join in.Jun 30 14:07
AVRSschestowitz: you can read an account as RSS using nitterJun 30 14:44
AVRSDidn't want to support Twitter with that :pJun 30 14:54
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schestowitzI know I canJun 30 15:06
schestowitzbut what I need it for is seeing replies to meJun 30 15:06
schestowitzfor that I need t log inJun 30 15:06
schestowitz(I don't reply to these anymore, I just check them once a day or so)Jun 30 15:06
zoobabafter some further discussions, the Withdrawal Agreement clause saying the "UK is considered as an EU member for the purpose of those international agreements" cannot be used for the UPC case, as it is not an international agreement in force yetJun 30 15:32
zoobabso the UPC is not part of the listJun 30 15:33
schestowitzahaJun 30 16:02
schestowitzso do a press release about itJun 30 16:02
schestowitzmaybe we can amplify, reproduce etc.Jun 30 16:02
schestowitzit makes it harder for them to repeat the lie laterJun 30 16:03
schestowitzso they'll refrain from spreading the lieJun 30 16:03
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zoobabI will try to pass a phone call to Tillmann, to understand the legal reasoningJun 30 16:24
schestowitzlolJun 30 16:29
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xwindowsActually, they should continue selling to China Russian and Venezuela.Jun 30 16:56
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XRevan86Ubuntu got themselves a Sid, eh?Jun 30 17:04
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DaemonFC[m]It seems to me that Pootie Poot did the bounties on US soldiers thing as a news dump to help get rid of Trump.Jun 30 17:58
DaemonFC[m]The guy is obviously not stupid. Killing a few US soldiers in Afghanistan gets Russia nothing of value.Jun 30 17:59
DaemonFC[m]As kompromat, more valuable.Jun 30 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Seems like Putin is done with Trump and this is very damaging. Makes Trump look particularly stupid and weak.Jun 30 18:00
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: he is weakJun 30 18:23
schestowitzso now he threatens peopleJun 30 18:23
schestowitzto make himself seem strongJun 30 18:23
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much.Jun 30 18:23
schestowitzand they can't seem to be wanting ti impeachJun 30 18:24
schestowitzhe helps distract from every evil thing they doJun 30 18:24
DaemonFC[m]His campaign is collapsing because people who actually are in the middle, or even slightly to the right, can't tolerate this anymore.Jun 30 18:24
schestowitzthey as in both corporate partiesJun 30 18:24
schestowitz+17,506 casesJun 30 18:24
schestowitzand it's still earlyJun 30 18:24
schestowitzhe wants to stop testingJun 30 18:24
schestowitzimagine thatJun 30 18:24
DaemonFC[m]John Bolton said recently that "America can recover from one term of Trump.".Jun 30 18:24
schestowitzI pay moneyJun 30 18:24
schestowitzI want to be be testedJun 30 18:24
schestowitz"sorry, sir, this is not legal"Jun 30 18:25
schestowitz"but I am paying youJun 30 18:25
schestowitz"Jun 30 18:25
DaemonFC[m]Basically, the same as saying it definitely can't recover if he gets a second one.Jun 30 18:25
schestowitzSorry, can't EXECUTIVE ORDER! Wait for symptoms"Jun 30 18:25
schestowitz"Sorry, can't, EXECUTIVE ORDER! Wait for symptoms"Jun 30 18:25
DaemonFC[m]That's actually not how it works.Jun 30 18:25
DaemonFC[m]The CDC can advise on what to do, but it can't tell states what to do.Jun 30 18:25
DaemonFC[m]The 6,000-10,000 daily cases in Florida are despite the Republicans trying to cover up how bad it is.Jun 30 18:26
schestowitzthey fired someone over itJun 30 18:26
schestowitzover a month ago, iircJun 30 18:26
schestowitzin FLJun 30 18:26
schestowitzbut I forgot the detailsJun 30 18:26
DaemonFC[m]That's under the guidelines they had in place to try to sweep things under the rug and reopen Disney.Jun 30 18:26
DaemonFC[m]Now it's pretty clear that Disney isn't reopening and RNC is not going to be what Trump wanted.Jun 30 18:28
DaemonFC[m]It's pretty clear that what happens next is another bad month like April probably.Jun 30 18:31
DaemonFC[m]Only instead of the east coast this time, it'll be the south and west pretty much.Jun 30 18:31
DaemonFC[m]The Florida problem quickly became a Georgia and Tennessee problem.Jun 30 18:32
DaemonFC[m]It won't stay there, obviously. In another couple of weeks, Illinois might have to reverse its re-opening too. Nobody wants to admit it until it's painfully obvious that it is flaring up in that state again, so what we're dealing with here is a rolling shutdown where every state governor pretends it's a problem in another state until it isn't.Jun 30 18:33
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I suspect that it will be a serious and ongoing problem for many more months. Jun 30 18:36
DaemonFC[m]My psychiatrist was asking me what I thought of it.Jun 30 18:36
DaemonFC[m]I told him pretty much what I said here and that I don't think it was going away, I think we were just seeing the eye of the storm because of the effect of a widespread shutdown, and that it was going to come back with a vengeance soon.Jun 30 18:37
DaemonFC[m]I said that I was going  to wait for 3-6 months probably to come out and get my bloodwork done at the lab because right now that's where all of the people are going to get a coronavirus test.Jun 30 18:37
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Trump's poll numbers did a steep collapse and they are not recovering.Jun 30 18:41
DaemonFC[m]They are continuing to gradually get worse.Jun 30 18:42
schestowitzanger doesn't sellJun 30 18:42
DaemonFC[m]My thoughts on that are other than the mass unemployment and chaos, and people pissed off about everything....Jun 30 18:42
DaemonFC[m]How much of that is "permanent" in that dead old people don't answer the phone to talk to pollsters and even if the government is massaging the numbers for the virus, they cannot account for that in the polling data...?Jun 30 18:43
DaemonFC[m]It seems now that if you wait a week, his net approval goes down about another tenth of a point.Jun 30 18:43
DaemonFC[m]I suspect that "Dead people don't answer polls." is some of that.Jun 30 18:43
DaemonFC[m]The virus is probably killing more people than we'll ever hear about.Jun 30 18:44
DaemonFC[m]All we really can say for sure is that about 90% of them are over 50.Jun 30 18:44
schestowitzthe numbers are fudgedJun 30 18:49
schestowitzyou know they areJun 30 18:49
schestowitzbecause different authorities count differentlyJun 30 18:50
schestowitzand survival/death rates vary from like 1% to 20% between nationsJun 30 18:50
schestowitzpoor nations don't even test muchJun 30 18:50
schestowitzwhat counts in the official number are deaths with testJun 30 18:50
schestowitznot either in isolationJun 30 18:50
schestowitzone way to measure isJun 30 18:51
schestowitzhow many death certificates in March-June 2019 compared to same period this yearJun 30 18:51
schestowitzassuming no nuclear war of big natural disasters you can do the diff, then attribute at least some of that to covidJun 30 18:52
schestowitzsome people died from covid by suicideJun 30 18:52
schestowitzdepressionJun 30 18:52
schestowitzbad dietJun 30 18:52
schestowitzhealthJun 30 18:52
DaemonFC[m]Wow. 72 bankruptcy filings in ILND today, at NOON.Jun 30 18:52
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, this is getting  better /sJun 30 18:52
schestowitz(unrelated to covid19 itself)Jun 30 18:52
schestowitzindirect death tollJun 30 18:52
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I guess you have "join the club" gleeJun 30 18:52
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The second phase of the economic collapse is starting.Jun 30 18:52
schestowitz[sarcasm] maybe they all read #techrights and copy you ;-)Jun 30 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Mass wave of bankruptcy as moratoriums on evictions and lawsuits stops, and 31 days until the extra $600 unemployment check stipend goes away.Jun 30 18:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: til:Jun 30 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Watch. It'll be biblical.Jun 30 18:53
schestowitz          <li>Jun 30 18:53
schestowitz        <h5><a href="">Analysis Warns 11% of Those Unemployed Due to Pandemic Have 'Zero Chance' of Getting Job Back</a></h5>Jun 30 18:53
schestowitz        <blockquote>Jun 30 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Analysis Warns 11% of Those Unemployed Due to Pandemic Have 'Zero Chance' of Getting Job Back | Common Dreams NewsJun 30 18:53
schestowitz          <p>"The 10.7% number represents the hard floor that we'll bump up against when the virus vanishes, leaving us in a Great Recession level unemployment situation."</p></blockquote></li>Jun 30 18:53
schestowitzit's for the next Daily Links batch BTWJun 30 18:54
schestowitzworking on it atmJun 30 18:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Shitty Group was trying to prevent telling their investors that things would be a disaster back in April.Jun 30 18:54
schestowitzCiti lolJun 30 18:54
DaemonFC[m]I read the minutes on their conference call with investors.Jun 30 18:54
schestowitzCiti BuffetJun 30 18:54
DaemonFC[m]No questions answered.Jun 30 18:54
schestowitzhallo, shitty... (South Park)Jun 30 18:54
DaemonFC[m]It was all "Read page such and such on the spreadsheet we gave you.".Jun 30 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Now they're saying that based on what they see in Asia, they suspect the "US consumer will be hesitant to spend money for a while.".Jun 30 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Duh doy!Jun 30 18:55
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schestowitzspend on WHAT?Jun 30 18:55
schestowitzI told rianne yesterday, food sector will suffer asoJun 30 18:56
schestowitz*alsoJun 30 18:56
schestowitzpeople still eat, BUT...Jun 30 18:56
schestowitzhow many go to work?Jun 30 18:56
schestowitzIn an office?Jun 30 18:56
DaemonFC[m]Not at restaurants.Jun 30 18:56
schestowitzNo more sub sandwitches for $5 apieceJun 30 18:56
DaemonFC[m]The restaurant industry is collapsing.Jun 30 18:56
schestowitzpeople spend less also in grocery stores, don't get more started on eating outJun 30 18:56
DaemonFC[m]Many 5 star restaurants in Chicago have already filed liquidation bankruptcy and voided their leases and fired everyone.Jun 30 18:56
schestowitzthe dining sector can get better prices on food suppliesJun 30 18:57
schestowitzthe margins are hugeJun 30 18:57
DaemonFC[m]Yes, they can. Which is why food inflation at the grocery store has been more severe than it has been at restaurants.Jun 30 18:57
schestowitzbut grocery stores like Mandy's will sell biscuits and jam and othee pastriesJun 30 18:57
schestowitznot turkeys and steaksJun 30 18:57
schestowitzfewer people have the confidence to spent on exquisite foodsJun 30 18:57
schestowitzso that sector too will see a demand after panic-buying and stockpilingJun 30 18:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I pretty much halted our buying of ground beef and steak and roast and stuff.Jun 30 18:58
schestowitzthen food prices will go upJun 30 18:58
schestowitzto cover up cost of operationsJun 30 18:58
DaemonFC[m]The prices have soared, but not on chicken and turkey so much.Jun 30 18:58
schestowitztomorrow is h2 of 2020Jun 30 18:58
schestowitzso I take up a step vegetarianismJun 30 18:58
DaemonFC[m]I think that inflation on poultry will be subdued because the cost inputs work out better there.Jun 30 18:59
schestowitzI could until now buy meat only is 2/3 discountedJun 30 18:59
schestowitznow it'll be 3/4Jun 30 18:59
schestowitzwhich is super hard to find, a rarity unless it's near the closing timeJun 30 18:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm making turkey stuffed cabbage tomorrow. Jun 30 18:59
DaemonFC[m]I bought a ton of spaghetti and sauce back in March because people were panic buying.Jun 30 18:59
schestowitzwhat goes in what?Jun 30 18:59
schestowitzthe turkey in the cabbage or cabbage in the turkey?Jun 30 19:00
DaemonFC[m]So I ended up using like 10 jars of sauce in the last 2 weeks to get rid of it.Jun 30 19:00
DaemonFC[m]Ground turkey mixture in the cabbage.Jun 30 19:00
DaemonFC[m]Put it in the pressure cooker. The spaghetti sauce acts as the liquid.Jun 30 19:00
schestowitzi c...Jun 30 19:00
schestowitzanyway, bblJun 30 19:00
schestowitzi need to do daily linksJun 30 19:00
DaemonFC[m]I've been using the pressure cooker a lot because I can make large quantities of food in it and then we have leftovers to send Mandy to work with, and a leftover night each week.Jun 30 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Just grab something from the past week and heat it up.Jun 30 19:01
DaemonFC[m]No grocery expense that day.Jun 30 19:01
DaemonFC[m]Also, to contain costs, I took out a Walmart card for Mandy that gives us 5% back on our grocery orders.Jun 30 19:01
DaemonFC[m]In the last month that gave us $25 back. Jun 30 19:02
DaemonFC[m]Between our stuff, the cat stuff, gas (Murphy/Walmart gas is a bonus), etc.Jun 30 19:02
DaemonFC[m]I think we could pull in $300 or so a year just off gas and groceries on that card.Jun 30 19:03
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DaemonFC[m]I started buying those economy size cans of coffee because it works out to about 30% cheaper on unit price than the "big can".Jun 30 19:04
DaemonFC[m]Half and half, a half a gallon at a time.Jun 30 19:05
DaemonFC[m]Bulk buying works out sometimes, especially when there's two of you.Jun 30 19:05
DaemonFC[m]Mandy will go "So expensive!" and I have to point out, "Not if you look at the problem as trying to get the long term smoothed average down.".Jun 30 19:06
DaemonFC[m]People do behave differently during recessions. How nice of Citi to be Captain Obvious here.Jun 30 19:07
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DaemonFC[m]They were hoping for a V shaped recession, but we're going to get a sustained one because this damned virus is really at least a 12 month problem without a vaccine and that's if it just blows through doing whatever it does and then it's mostly over with because herd immunity.Jun 30 19:09
DaemonFC[m]They were hoping that there were just a fuckton of infections out there that weren't getting diagnosed because of mild symptoms and if that was the case, we wouldn't have Fauci testifying  to the Senate that we could be seeing 100,000+ confirmed per day for a while at some point soon.Jun 30 19:10
DaemonFC[m]For this to be going on, something's happening. Either we were diagnosing more of the total cases than we thought, the immunity in survivors isn't as good as it needs to be, or some of both.Jun 30 19:11
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, MinceR I was inspired by The Running Man with the fine.Jun 30 19:12
DaemonFC[m]Remember when they're taking the explosive neck collar off Ben Richards and it starts beeping rapidly, and the guy throws it down a chute and says "Goodbye, my lovely!"?Jun 30 19:13
DaemonFC[m]That's sort of what I did with the fine in the bankruptcy.Jun 30 19:13
MinceR:)Jun 30 19:13
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DaemonFC[m]"Nothing to lose your head over, eh?" Jun 30 19:16
DaemonFC[m]"You got it!"Jun 30 19:17
DaemonFC[m]lights up a cigarJun 30 19:17
MinceR:)Jun 30 19:19
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I had someone from the court call me to make sure I was still living where I said I would.Jun 30 19:20
DaemonFC[m]I told her, "Do you honestly think that I'm going to go 'O Brother, Where Art Thou?' to escape from two more months of unsupervised probation?".Jun 30 19:21
DaemonFC[m]She laughed.Jun 30 19:21
DaemonFC[m]I said, "I get it. The whole country is turning into Escape From New York and you have to make sure everyone's still where they should be.".Jun 30 19:25
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MinceRit's actually turning into IdiocracyJun 30 19:25
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: No, I think Escape from New York.Jun 30 19:28
DaemonFC[m]We even have a warlord, apparently in the "Seattle Neutral Zone". Or whatever it is they're calling that now.Jun 30 19:28
MinceR:>Jun 30 19:30
DaemonFC[m]According to the far right, it's either a domestic terrorist group, like ISIS, which will take over America one city block at a time, or a few kids making a pillow fort. Whatever mood Fox News is in.Jun 30 19:31
MinceRit's a superposition of bothJun 30 19:32
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Of course, chaining Fox News narratives together, it's Time Traveling Weather Underground setting up a base of operations to help Barack Hussein Obama turn America into Communism.Jun 30 19:32
MinceRand who's the warlord?Jun 30 19:32
DaemonFC[m]Probably whoever they Photoshopped in this week.Jun 30 19:33
MinceRlolJun 30 19:33
DaemonFC[m]"NO! WE GO IN! WE KILL!!!! NO MORE TALK! WE KILL!!!!"Jun 30 19:34
MinceRand who's Snake Plissken?Jun 30 19:35
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: This seems to be something more like the far-left version of the takeover of the wildlife preserve several years ago by the Bundys. Jun 30 19:35
DaemonFC[m]No, not Al Bundy, a guy that was mad that the government was charging him to let his cattle graze on public land.Jun 30 19:36
DaemonFC[m]Of course, not learning a damned thing from the Waco incident, he ended up getting his brother killed in the ensuing raid.Jun 30 19:36
MinceR:>Jun 30 19:36
DaemonFC[m]If you piss off the government just so, they will "accidentally" come in and kill people, including many women and children if the need arises. Jun 30 19:37
DaemonFC[m]The re-election of Bill Clinton just proved that there was no political damage done by the Waco incident. Jun 30 19:38
MinceRagain, proving the "social contract" to be a hoaxJun 30 19:38
DaemonFC[m]They should have known that since it was impossible for Clinton to carry Texas in 1996 anyway that he was probably not in the mood to bring that to a peaceful resolution.Jun 30 19:38
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "again, proving the "social contr"> Pretty much, but so did the virus. Remember that part about  the social contract where you agreed to give $4 trillion mostly to banks and companies that should have failed years ago anyway which gobbled up "Paycheck Protection" loans while the government did fuck all for peopl?Jun 30 19:40
DaemonFC[m]Because I sure remember signing that.Jun 30 19:40
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: So, I took the one time $1,200 check from the government and filed bankruptcy against my creditors. Or as I like to call it, a tax return.Jun 30 19:41
DaemonFC[m]I mean, you really can't fault it as a strategy. The $1,200 either pays about 1 month of rent -or- shreds something like $80,000 worth of debt that is fresh enough for various companies to try to collect on and harass me with for perhaps 27 years. Jun 30 19:42
DaemonFC[m]I don't feel like dealing with what happened in 2019 until I'm 63 years old.Jun 30 19:43
DaemonFC[m]So fuck all of them.Jun 30 19:43
DaemonFC[m]There was already something like $1.4 trillion in revolving credit card loans out there before the virus hit.Jun 30 19:45
DaemonFC[m]About 3% were so late that the bank was about to charge them off, but ...... That's like $42 billion?Jun 30 19:46
DaemonFC[m]Also, this neat thing happens to make credit card default look low.Jun 30 19:46
DaemonFC[m]They get to charge it off and sell it to a collection agency, and then nobody is tracking it anymore, after 6 months.Jun 30 19:46
DaemonFC[m]So if I had to make and educated guess here, something like $100-150 billion in credit card debt will be blown away in bankruptcy in the coming months.Jun 30 19:47
DaemonFC[m]More after that, because many people stopped paying their cards in April who wouldn't have, to free up what money they had for current expenses.Jun 30 19:47
DaemonFC[m]Now the banks saw this unfolding and have gotten really tight with their lending and have been closing accounts and reducing credit limits to amount owed, to head people off who might be tempted to max the card out and walk away.Jun 30 19:48
DaemonFC[m]The problem is that there were so many people trapped in an endless cycle of minimum payments to kick the can at the point where the banks woke up and decided to mitigate, that they're probably going to be exposed so something more like $400-500 billion in losses on credit cards that go into bankruptcy in the next 6 months.Jun 30 19:49
DaemonFC[m]That's not even talking about mortgages and car payments, which are both much bigger than credit cards.Jun 30 19:50
DaemonFC[m]Or student loans, where Trump tried to prevent mass default and people being raked over the coals during an election year with executive orders.Jun 30 19:50
DaemonFC[m]Trump channeled Bernie Sanders on student loans, with executive actions he could have taken at any time, but decided that he had an election to try to salvage and that people might not be in quite enough of a rotten mood to do anything about him if they didn't have the student loan people breathing down their necks at that very moment in November.Jun 30 19:51
DaemonFC[m]Then, after the election, guess what happens.Jun 30 19:52
DaemonFC[m]People are stupid and if a problem isn't a problem at that very minute, they're not thinking about it.Jun 30 19:52
DaemonFC[m]So the student loan thing definitely comes back as soon as Trump doesn't need these people to not be furious.Jun 30 19:53
DaemonFC[m]He's pushing things around so that people aren't feeling maximum pain until after the election. It is not fixing anything.Jun 30 19:53
DaemonFC[m]In fact, we are so fucked after the election if he is still in there for another 4 years that it's not even funny.Jun 30 19:54
DaemonFC[m]There's no consequences in his mind for anything he does at that point, so if there's been anything moderating him for the past 4 years, it's gone.Jun 30 19:54
DaemonFC[m]I'd much rather deal with a couple of months of whatever he does as a lame duck than another 4 years of Trump unchained.Jun 30 19:55
DaemonFC[m]You still have these fucking idiots that refuse to grow up and support Biden because he's not Bernie Sanders.Jun 30 19:56
DaemonFC[m]Presumably not as many as in 2016. Jun 30 19:56
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: So I'm really hoping for a mass wave of bankruptcy before the election, because it's coming sooner or later, and it might as well be happening while Trump can't possibly defend it.Jun 30 19:58
DaemonFC[m]While it could at least kick people in the nuts hard enough to get rid of him.Jun 30 19:58
DaemonFC[m]This Russian bounty hunting thing is blowing up on him right now.Jun 30 19:59
DaemonFC[m]Putin is obviously finished with Trump. There's no strategic value in the Russians paying a few camel jockeys to pick off a US soldier or two, other than as an election year scandal that hits Trump where it hurts.Jun 30 20:00
MinceR 30 20:00
DaemonFC[m]Now it's gonna be all over the news this woman who says my son was killed by terrorists that were paid by the Russians while Trump knew about it and tried covering it up.Jun 30 20:01
DaemonFC[m]That's not going to play well.Jun 30 20:01
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Well, I think it's going to be an ongoing problem in Europe any way you look at it.Jun 30 20:02
DaemonFC[m]Whether it's mainly an economic one (like they needed one more) or whether it flares up again with no vaccine.Jun 30 20:02
DaemonFC[m]One of the things these decadent morons needed was tourists from the US to bring their money to spend on con games and muggings.Jun 30 20:04
DaemonFC[m]Now that's gone.Jun 30 20:04
DaemonFC[m]The UK has turned into something that's even more far gone than the United States.Jun 30 20:05
DaemonFC[m]They're about 10-20 years further into the collapse of society in many ways.Jun 30 20:05
DaemonFC[m]After Brexit, which was pretty entirely the fault of England, pretty much everyone else wants out of the UK now.Jun 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]In Northern Ireland, most did already.Jun 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]Now Scotland wants another swing at an independence referendum.Jun 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]What they're going through right now is basically states trying to secede from a union.Jun 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]So it's basically a Cold Civil War at the moment.Jun 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]They're fucked.Jun 30 20:07
DaemonFC[m]This is not the same society that stood firm against the Nazis.Jun 30 20:07
DaemonFC[m]This is the logical unraveling that began with Margaret Thatcher.Jun 30 20:07
DaemonFC[m]Give her ~4 decades and she's right. There is no society.Jun 30 20:08
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: So, they can laugh at the US if they want. Whatever gives them a security blanket so they can suck on their collective thumb and not think about Troubles 2.0.Jun 30 20:09
DaemonFC[m]That's already starting.Jun 30 20:09
DaemonFC[m]Eventually, everyone who goes against England and resists wins. They fold like a cheap card table and leave.Jun 30 20:10
DaemonFC[m]So it might not happen tomorrow, but I believe it will.Jun 30 20:11
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Also, ZING! Another Star Trek prophecy comes true. The banned (in England) TNG episode where Data says that resistance from Northern Ireland was successful by 2026.Jun 30 20:12
MinceR:>Jun 30 20:12
DaemonFC[m]I was unhappy to see that they took some mild concessions from their invaders and disarmed themselves.Jun 30 20:13
DaemonFC[m]God, even as a teenager I was unhappy to see that.Jun 30 20:13
DaemonFC[m]Trump has been threatening the states with much the same treatment. The blue states anyway.Jun 30 20:14
DaemonFC[m]That he'd send in the army if he didn't like what they did.Jun 30 20:14
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Gun permit applications in Illinois are up over 500% from normal.Jun 30 20:14
DaemonFC[m]People who don't want to be occupied and see it coming are arming themselves.Jun 30 20:14
MinceRgoodJun 30 20:15
DaemonFC[m]After Trump threatened us, Governor Pritzker said gun stores could reopen and were now "essential".Jun 30 20:15
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I'll be submitting a new FOID application the day after probation ends.Jun 30 20:16
DaemonFC[m]Disorderly Conduct is not a violent crime under FOID and I was not convicted.Jun 30 20:16
DaemonFC[m]The "don't possess guns" condition expires when probation does.Jun 30 20:16
DaemonFC[m]So I do plan to get a new permit immediately.Jun 30 20:17
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DaemonFC[m]Between rioting and Trump threatening to send in the army, people just do not want to think about how they can respond to that with baseball bats and pepper spray.Jun 30 20:17
DaemonFC[m]FOID needs to be repealed or struck down.Jun 30 20:18
DaemonFC[m]I was really hoping someone could get this one to the Supreme Court.Jun 30 20:18
DaemonFC[m]They've been throwing out anti-gun laws six ways to Sunday and this one needs to go away too.Jun 30 20:18
DaemonFC[m]That's why we have a second amendment. The government cannot ever be trusted not to do whatever it thinks it can get away with.Jun 30 20:19
DaemonFC[m]Without an armed civilian population, it'll be a complete pushover.Jun 30 20:19
DaemonFC[m]The anti-gun movement is collapsing right in front of us.Jun 30 20:20
DaemonFC[m]That's good. That's one reason everyone hates the left.Jun 30 20:21
DaemonFC[m]They're like Arnold Rimmer after he has his anger sucked out by the Polymorph and becomes a guidance counselor.Jun 30 20:22
DaemonFC[m]Suggests hitting it hard and fast with a major leaflet campaign.Jun 30 20:22
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The problem here is that there's a circus going on, on both extremes.Jun 30 20:23
DaemonFC[m]On the left, it's a polar opposite full of social justice warriors, wimps, and womyn.Jun 30 20:23
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MinceRwhy can't "right-wingers" in europe campaign for the right to keep and bear arms?Jun 30 20:31
schestowitzbear arm...Jun 30 20:35
schestowitzbears in Italy...Jun 30 20:35
schestowitz Jun 30 20:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Brown bear which attacked father and son hiking in Italy sentenced to death - World News - Mirror OnlineJun 30 20:36
schestowitzdid the bear have a good lawyer?Jun 30 20:36
schestowitzdid he get a chance to hear the Miranda rights?Jun 30 20:36
schestowitz*(or she)Jun 30 20:36
MinceR:>Jun 30 20:37
MinceRit could have been an intersex bearJun 30 20:37
schestowitznot yetJun 30 20:39
schestowitzlet them shoot first, see what happensJun 30 20:39
DaemonFC[m]Italian men are really hairy, stereotypically, and some are gay, so they probably have many bears. Jun 30 20:42
MinceR:>Jun 30 20:42
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "it could have been an intersex b"> Did you assume its gender? The bear prefers them/they. Sometimes the bear feels like raising cubs and sometimes it just wants to pound beers and complain about all the women who went after it for support, despite being independent, equal, and not needing a man.Jun 30 20:43
MinceRno, i said "could"Jun 30 20:44
DaemonFC[m]Merely suggesting that it could be anything that it doesn't like is offensive and I'm going to have to report you to Mozilla so you can be removed from Comcast DNS now.Jun 30 20:44
DaemonFC[m]Mark Zuckerberg has started the process of backpeddling from the appeasement of the Nazis now that some giant advertisers are calling it quits.Jun 30 20:48
DaemonFC[m]Facebook has decided to apply its labels of misleading content, hate speech, etc. more often and has started delisting some of the outright Nazi groups it was ignoring previously.Jun 30 20:49
DaemonFC[m]Reddit nuked almost all of the worst ones. To make it seem "balanced", it also removed a bunch of "far left" ones, but the ones it went after over there were mostly inactive.Jun 30 20:50
DaemonFC[m]Removing The_Donald alone was a huge swat against Trump because that's where his supporters gathered to  make memes that would then be copied to Facebook.Jun 30 20:50
DaemonFC[m]107 ILND bankruptcy filings today with a few hours left on the clock.Jun 30 20:54
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, this is looking like the beginning of the surge.Jun 30 20:54
DaemonFC[m]It was 88 yesterday and had been hovering in the 60s or 70s per day most of the month.Jun 30 20:54
DaemonFC[m]So filings are trending upwards after a very calm April and May.Jun 30 20:54
DaemonFC[m]Yes, schestowitz is correct. I'm watching this closely because I'm a disaster junkie and I can admit it. I also think that the bankruptcy courts are going to burn down a lot of the pervasive rot that has accumulated, and help spark a banking crisis that will land on Trump's front doorstep heading into the election.Jun 30 20:56
DaemonFC[m]It was never really in doubt that the shit would hit the fan, and the only real questions are how much and how quickly.Jun 30 20:57
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: the US disaster started a long time agoJun 30 20:58
schestowitzwell before trumpJun 30 20:58
schestowitzsome would name nixonJun 30 20:58
schestowitzsome Raegan for several reasonsJun 30 20:59
schestowitzsome BushJun 30 20:59
schestowitzObama maybeJun 30 20:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The banks will give credit cards to goddamned anyone and just keep raising the limits without checking to see if they can pay or reviewing the accounts.Jun 30 20:59
DaemonFC[m]So they're going go get hammered hard.Jun 30 20:59
schestowitzI think he took a lot of crap after Bush already put USland in many wars and wall street catastropheJun 30 20:59
schestowitztrump has bankruptcy experienceJun 30 20:59
schestowitzand his erratic crime-loving style distracts from the collapse of the country at a level other than ethnicJun 30 21:00
DaemonFC[m]If they hadn't been as sloppy then the bankruptcy shitstorm that's about to unfold wouldn't be happening. Also, with decreased purchasing power, the push on employer to grant raises would be higher.Jun 30 21:00
schestowitzremoving national securityJun 30 21:00
schestowitzand health insuranceJun 30 21:00
schestowitzto kill what's leftJun 30 21:00
schestowitzmany will die indirectlyJun 30 21:00
MinceRlol @ comcast DNSJun 30 21:00
schestowitzthings like no access to basic drugsJun 30 21:00
DaemonFC[m]There's a big cost to bankruptcy. The debt doesn't "disappear". Someone else had to pay it.Jun 30 21:00
DaemonFC[m]So it's socialism, but don't call it that.Jun 30 21:01
schestowitzMinceR: techrights article?Jun 30 21:01
schestowitzthe mozilla ones are oldJun 30 21:01
MinceRno, what DaemonFC[m] saidJun 30 21:01
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: what's the ref for this?Jun 30 21:02
DaemonFC[m]The "Someone Else's Problem" factor appeals to people like Trump, which is why they file all the time and let someone else to pay for their parasitic behaviors.Jun 30 21:02
schestowitzI know about doh, but what else?Jun 30 21:02
schestowitzThey use another acronym nowJun 30 21:02
DaemonFC[m]These concessions to Comcast and the "partnership" come months after Comcast was complaining to Congress that DoH would cause the internet to "go dark" and hamstring the cops.Jun 30 21:02
DaemonFC[m]So guess what happens behind the scenes.... Mozilla folded and Comcast extracted enormous concession that make any potential privacy go away.Jun 30 21:03
MinceR30 215840 < schestowitz> some would name nixonJun 30 21:03
schestowitzyesJun 30 21:03
MinceRi wouldJun 30 21:03
schestowitzhe did the deal with the chinese iirJun 30 21:03
schestowitz*iircJun 30 21:03
schestowitzthen lots of manufacturing went elsewhereJun 30 21:04
schestowitzand never came back, never willJun 30 21:04
DaemonFC[m]They wanted Congress to make DoH illegal so the government and Comcast could keep spying on DNS.Jun 30 21:04
schestowitzthe chinese too suffered from it... the people, not the dictatorshipJun 30 21:04
DaemonFC[m]Now they don't want it to be illegal.Jun 30 21:04
DaemonFC[m]How does that happen?Jun 30 21:04
schestowitzthey became warehouse and sweatshopJun 30 21:04
schestowitz 30 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mozilla Shames Itself and Harms Its Reputation by Stating That “Comcast Has Taken Major Steps to Protect Customer Privacy” | TechrightsJun 30 21:05
schestowitz 30 21:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | [Humour] Mozilla Firefox Will Protect Your Privacy Like Comcast Does | TechrightsJun 30 21:05
schestowitzI moved all my pcs away from firefox this past weekendJun 30 21:05
schestowitzmozilla is not mozillaJun 30 21:06
DaemonFC[m]Comcast & Mozilla made an IETF draft that is essentially a standard for how ISPs intercept DoH and hijack DNS back to themselves.Jun 30 21:06
DaemonFC[m]Think that won't be attacked?Jun 30 21:06
MinceR> DoHJun 30 21:06
MinceR 30 21:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | File:ArkanoidRevengeofDoh.jpg - WikipediaJun 30 21:06
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: of course they wouldJun 30 21:07
schestowitz"law enforcement"Jun 30 21:07
schestowitzprivacy is a crime nowJun 30 21:07
schestowitzmozilla is just posingJun 30 21:07
DaemonFC[m]Comcast and Microsoft are kind of the same in that if they invest any effort into making something work, it's because it's bad for you.Jun 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]The rest can just stay halfassed and broken.Jun 30 21:10
DaemonFC[m]The US government letting Microsoft buy their way in and burrow is the reason the Chinese military keeps getting all of our R&D after we paid for it.Jun 30 21:11
DaemonFC[m]I'd be surprised if all of those Chinese students that get arrested for spying lately are spies.Jun 30 21:12
DaemonFC[m]They might be, but Trump's election is in trouble, and rounding up random Chinese and accusing them of being spies is exactly what a guy like him would do.Jun 30 21:13
DaemonFC[m]I would. Jun 30 21:13
DaemonFC[m]If the cases all fall apart, it'll be after election day and you can just deport them anyway.Jun 30 21:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: High Machs score very low on Social Intelligence, oddly enough. The theory is that they manipulate others successfully because they're more willing to do it than most people.Jun 30 21:15
DaemonFC[m]There was an episode of Star Trek Voyager where the Doctor had his ethical subroutines deleted by the crew of another ship that had made more progress getting through the Delta Quadrant than Voyager, despite having a much less advanced ship.Jun 30 21:16
DaemonFC[m]The crew got as far along as they did because the first thing they did was abandon all Starfleet protocols and start acting like a bunch of pirates.Jun 30 21:16
DaemonFC[m]When they sucked out the Doctor's ethics program, he became capable of doing almost anything despite the fact that absolutely nothing else about his program's capabilities had changed in the slightest. Jun 30 21:17
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DaemonFC[m]I have no idea where I score on Social Intelligence, but when people cross paths with me I'll cut them to ribbons.Jun 30 21:18
DaemonFC[m]Because I will say or do anything that will get me out of a bind. Jun 30 21:18
DaemonFC[m]I turned two years in prison into bad credit for a little while, kind of. Jun 30 21:19
DaemonFC[m]Trump isn't that much different than I am except that he is not nearly as smart. Jun 30 21:19
DaemonFC[m]If someone handed me millions of dollars and gave me decades to do what I wanted to with it, I would be incredibly wealthy right now.Jun 30 21:20
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DaemonFC[m]Perhaps, even the president. Jun 30 21:20
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: It's a vicious world. As Londo Mollari once said in B5, when asked why he did some things.Jun 30 21:21
DaemonFC[m]"Because, sooner or later, you would have done it to me."Jun 30 21:21
DaemonFC[m]At some point, with that stupid car out there somewhere, John would stumble over financially and the finance company would go back to pursuing me about it while he ended up filing bankruptcy.Jun 30 21:22
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DaemonFC[m]Then I'd have a bankruptcy and a repo on my credit, and that's worse. Jun 30 21:22
DaemonFC[m]Now he'll have to figure out just the right way to lose the car, or that will be him.Jun 30 21:23
DaemonFC[m]He's not as smart as me though.Jun 30 21:23
DaemonFC[m]So this was just the least shitty opportunity to hit the Self Destruct that I was going to get. Jun 30 21:24
DaemonFC[m]If you lose a car outside of a bankruptcy to a repo, the repo survives on your credit as well as the bankruptcy.Jun 30 21:25
DaemonFC[m]They might never be able to get the money from you, but the repo on top does another 100-150 points of damage.Jun 30 21:25
DaemonFC[m]So, MinceR, in Star Trek terminology. Do you want to get hit with one photon torpedo before you can get the shields up, or two?Jun 30 21:26
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that John will get hit with both barrels before he gets out from under that stupid loan.Jun 30 21:29
DaemonFC[m]What did we learn?Jun 30 21:29
DaemonFC[m]NEVER sign a car loan again.Jun 30 21:29
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DaemonFC[m]I was fully expecting to get hit twice because I didn't think John would get the car back.Jun 30 21:30
DaemonFC[m]So ironically he spent a lot of money to bail me out somewhat. Jun 30 21:30
DaemonFC[m]I limped on for several more months and filed bankruptcy.Jun 30 21:30
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I quoted The Martian when Mandy asked me what I was going to do.Jun 30 21:31
DaemonFC[m]I said, "I'm going to science the shit of it.".Jun 30 21:31
DaemonFC[m]His sister trying to fuck our immigration case would be the part of the movie where his potatoes blew up.Jun 30 21:32
DaemonFC[m]I'm going to have to watch through SG-1 again.Jun 30 21:34
DaemonFC[m]O'Neill: "You just interrupted a lovely brunch! What can I do for you?".Jun 30 21:34
DaemonFC[m]Ba'al: "Impudence!"Jun 30 21:34
DaemonFC[m]O'Neill: "No....tuna."Jun 30 21:34
DaemonFC[m]The Dad jokes just went on and on. Jun 30 21:35
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: why would the shields ever not be up?Jun 30 21:36
DaemonFC[m]Well, usually because they're an enormous drain on the ship and are only raised during combat or when it is anticipated.Jun 30 21:37
DaemonFC[m]The Klingons and Romulans have cloaks. They uncloak and they can immediately fire as soon as the cloak generator turns off. Jun 30 21:37
DaemonFC[m]So it's possible to come under attack suddenly and without realizing it fast enough to immediately raise shields.Jun 30 21:38
MinceRso usually they just take all the micrometeorites down with the hull?Jun 30 21:38
DaemonFC[m]The plot hole of "Well, what about micro-meteorites and stellar dust? Especially at warp!" was finally closed, in Enterprise, I believe.Jun 30 21:39
MinceRi'm sure none of it will cause any harm.Jun 30 21:39
DaemonFC[m]The ship has some sort of hull polarization at all times that's enough to deal with that. Jun 30 21:39
MinceRjust get a ship from one of the 'verses where the shield can be up all the time :>Jun 30 21:39
MinceRin Tyrian, you can take small ships out just by ramming them with the shieldJun 30 21:39
DaemonFC[m]Well, in Yesterday's Enterprise, the Federation had been at war with the Klingon Empire for over 20 years and the Enterprise D was a "Federation Warship".Jun 30 21:40
schestowitz+29,725 covid19, usJun 30 21:41
DaemonFC[m]It was explained that most of the ship ran at low power in order to have the shields up all the time.Jun 30 21:41
schestowitz555 death so farJun 30 21:41
MinceR 30 21:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4386909)Jun 30 21:41
schestowitzmight be close to 800 at endJun 30 21:41
MinceR 30 21:42
DaemonFC[m]The Federation was on the losing side of the war.Jun 30 21:42
DaemonFC[m]Starfleet had been keeping it under wraps because they didn't want to admit that the Federation would collapse within months at the rate the war was going.Jun 30 21:42
schestowitzMinceR: same urlJun 30 21:42
MinceRah, i only meant to send it onceJun 30 21:42
schestowitzI thought maybe wrong paste the second timeJun 30 21:43
schestowitzclipboard mismanagementJun 30 21:43
MinceRi probably forgot that i already sent itJun 30 21:43
MinceRwhile i was reading the textJun 30 21:43
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: In war, you generally either want your enemy to operate with no information or with information that confuses them and forces them to make a big mistake.Jun 30 21:43
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: "THIS IS NOT WAR, THIS IS PEST CONTROL!"Jun 30 21:44
DaemonFC[m]If you can't fight them, you make it appear like you can. If you can ambush them and inflict heavy damage, you make it seem like the place you want them to attack is lightly defended and is, therefore, an irresistible target. Jun 30 21:45
DaemonFC[m]I spent an insane amount of resources making it appear like I could defend myself well, that the jury would be sympathetic to my mental illness and a state of confusion brought about by sleeping pills, etc.Jun 30 21:46
DaemonFC[m]Then I went on the offensive by using the car as a talking point over lunch with John.Jun 30 21:47
DaemonFC[m]Reminding him if I went to jail I would definitely not be able to pay it.Jun 30 21:47
DaemonFC[m]So he started backpeddling by the time the prosecutor got around to calling him.Jun 30 21:47
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DaemonFC[m]So, by the time I signed the plea deal, the prosecutor thought that he was dealing with a hopelessly lost case if it found its way into trial and gave up without demanding very much from me.Jun 30 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Then I defaulted on the car 6 days later and drove it for months while John was screaming at me over my voicemail. Jun 30 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Then had it repossessed on purpose and dropped the insurance and took the license plates too.Jun 30 21:48
DaemonFC[m]Then a few months after he paid thousands just to get it out of repo and to cover me driving it for free while I had the Impala under repair, the Coronavirus struck and put him on unemployment, and he started slipping on the car payments.Jun 30 21:49
schestowitzMinceR: happens to me a lotJun 30 21:49
DaemonFC[m]So I filed bankruptcy and left him holding the bag on that.Jun 30 21:50
schestowitzbetter to double-paste than to fail to paste altogetherJun 30 21:50
schestowitz30,031Jun 30 21:50
schestowitzit's a numbers gameJun 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Counter-offensive. Jun 30 21:50
schestowitzsoon there will be more us covid10 cases then the difference between voters Clinton got over TrumpJun 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]He spent all last Summer thumbing his nose at me.Jun 30 21:50
schestowitzcovid19Jun 30 21:50
DaemonFC[m]Ended up getting hit much harder than I did.Jun 30 21:51
schestowitz*thanJun 30 21:51
DaemonFC[m]I was in such a good mood after my bankruptcy went through I started up my Donna Summer music and started dancing around the house.Jun 30 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Mandy thought I had lost my mind.Jun 30 21:51
DaemonFC[m]It turned into a big problem for John and a bunch of big banks.Jun 30 21:51
DaemonFC[m]Not really so much a me problem now.Jun 30 21:52
DaemonFC[m]I packed that bankruptcy with every cent I've ever owed anyone all the way back to 2001. Jun 30 21:53
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MinceRi doubt it's that much of a problem for the banksJun 30 21:53
MinceRit's barely a blip on their radarJun 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The Coronavirus isn't that bad.Jun 30 21:53
MinceRand if they're not totally incompetent, they've hedged itJun 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Individually, sure.Jun 30 21:53
DaemonFC[m]But it comes at a time when the Collapse-o-Virus has everyone else doing it too.Jun 30 21:53
MinceRyou don't get to take credit for all of it :>Jun 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]The hedge is that the CEO already got his money. Byeeeeee.Jun 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]You don't get how America works, I guess.Jun 30 21:54
MinceRthat's the CEO's hedgeJun 30 21:54
MinceRindependent from the bank's :>Jun 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]It's the same thing, really.Jun 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]Ask Mozilla.Jun 30 21:54
DaemonFC[m]CEOs make more money destroying companies than running them well, so guess what.Jun 30 21:55
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Walmart in the US was going off the rails and so they had a shareholder revolt and ended up installing the guy that was running their operation in Mexico.Jun 30 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Their shareholders and Board absolutely will punish incompetence before it gets totally out of hand.Jun 30 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Mozilla is totally Mitchell Baker at this point.Jun 30 21:56
MinceRand if it all collapses on the banks, they'll just get bailed outJun 30 21:57
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Banks that get big and keep succeeding tend to diversify where possible, but now everything has gone to shit.Jun 30 21:57
DaemonFC[m]Normally, you hedge by holding assets in multiple markets figuring they won't all get destroyed at once.Jun 30 21:57
DaemonFC[m]Pretty much.Jun 30 21:58
DaemonFC[m]We might get TARP 2.0 right before the election, or immediately after it.Jun 30 21:58
DaemonFC[m]It's coming. They'll just calculate the political fallout before they decide when.Jun 30 21:58
schestowitzsounds like many new jobs in IllinoisJun 30 21:59
schestowitzprocessing bankrupcy paperJun 30 21:59
schestowitzhiring nowJun 30 21:59
schestowitzput in your job applicationJun 30 21:59
schestowitzget more people on 'the dole'Jun 30 21:59
DaemonFC[m]LMAOJun 30 21:59
schestowitzcan become world leaderJun 30 21:59
schestowitzin the "BANKRUPTCY INDUSTRY"(R)Jun 30 21:59
schestowitzthereJun 30 21:59
schestowitzjob creators for youJun 30 22:00
schestowitzlawyers, federal workersJun 30 22:00
schestowitzstamping away bankruptciesJun 30 22:00
schestowitzso many "clients"Jun 30 22:00
DaemonFC[m]Bankruptcy filings as a denial of service attack. Jun 30 22:00
schestowitzI mean, broke familiesJun 30 22:00
DaemonFC[m]There's going to be so many that it'll turn the courts into a chop shop for companies that could have turned around.Jun 30 22:00
schestowitz+30,532Jun 30 22:01
schestowitzthey add in 20 mins what UK added in a DAYJun 30 22:01
schestowitzand in the UK we test more per capita than USJun 30 22:01
schestowitzby about 30,000 more per millionJun 30 22:01
DaemonFC[m] 30 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Pizza Hut, Wendy's franchisee expected to file for bankruptcy | Fox BusinessJun 30 22:03
DaemonFC[m]SPLAT!Jun 30 22:03
schestowitzgoodJun 30 22:04
MinceRso, Taco Bell will win after all?Jun 30 22:06
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Taco Bell and Northern IrelandJun 30 22:07
MinceR:>Jun 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Hey, you have to respect the IRA.Jun 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Shooting down a very expensive British Army helicopter with a can of Spaghetti-Os....Jun 30 22:07
DaemonFC[m]The British decided to get out before the IRA discovered what you could do with some PVC, a can of Aqua Net hairspray, and a potato, I guess.Jun 30 22:09
DaemonFC[m]Guns don't kill people! Potato cannons kill people! Blimey!Jun 30 22:10
DaemonFC[m]This spuds for you....Jun 30 22:11
MinceR"Guns don't kill people, I do!"Jun 30 22:14
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You know things are getting depressing when the animatronic mouse that was at every kids birthday ever ends up in bankruptcy court.Jun 30 22:17
DaemonFC[m]Trevor Noah was laughing  because Chuck E. Cheese's attempt at tricking adults to order their pizza on Grubhub as "Pasqualy's Pizza & Wings" was found out quickly.Jun 30 22:19
schestowitzMinceR: doodooJun 30 22:19
schestowitz+32,769Jun 30 22:19
schestowitzUS does in 2 hours or so what EU does in a whole dayJun 30 22:19
schestowitz"Stop touching everything!"Jun 30 22:19
schestowitz"wear a f-ing mask!"Jun 30 22:20
schestowitz1,457,599 active casesJun 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: No, I want it to get higher.Jun 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]The more the better.Jun 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]Everyone will get it eventually anyway.Jun 30 22:20
DaemonFC[m]We have so many anti-vaccine cranks in the US that Fauci was saying the vaccine would never get us to herd immunity.Jun 30 22:21
MinceRschestowitz: voodooJun 30 22:21
schestowitzAt 1,457,599 active cases, US will soon have more #covid19 patients than prisoners (which says a lot considering how many US citizens are incarcerated)Jun 30 22:21
DaemonFC[m]I want to go outside. Also, if it continues to erode Trump's base and ruin the economy, good.Jun 30 22:21
DaemonFC[m]There is no "economy" for most people to enjoy anymore. You do labor and it all gets lost with your employer and the landlord and you don't get to have anything.Jun 30 22:22
DaemonFC[m]That's how most people live.Jun 30 22:22
schestowitzwell, it's getting more risky to leave nowJun 30 22:22
schestowitzesp. in some statesJun 30 22:22
schestowitzas the ratio of infected balloonsJun 30 22:22
schestowitzevery state can wind up like NYS with mass gravesJun 30 22:22
schestowitzbecause we still don't have any cures for itJun 30 22:22
schestowitzand ventilators were hoardedJun 30 22:22
schestowitz(I don't trust # of deaths BTW)Jun 30 22:23
schestowitzleave that to historiansJun 30 22:23
schestowitzthey can study the patterns, then extrapolate based on contents of death certificatesJun 30 22:23
schestowitzgoing backwardsJun 30 22:23
schestowitzocr may doJun 30 22:23
DaemonFC[m]The older folks have internalized their own guilt.Jun 30 22:24
DaemonFC[m]They know they've treated younger generations badly and now they're being proactively defensive in blaming young people for carelessly spreading the virus.Jun 30 22:25
DaemonFC[m]That's what comes from constant paranoia.Jun 30 22:26
DaemonFC[m]They're assuming that young people are so angry at living in poverty for so long that they no longer care what happens to older people.Jun 30 22:26
DaemonFC[m]There's some truth to that.Jun 30 22:26
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schestowitz+34,732Jun 30 22:54
schestowitzover 600 deathsJun 30 22:54
schestowitz1200+ dead in brazilJun 30 22:54
schestowitzalmost 60k totalJun 30 22:54
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schestowitz+36,545Jun 30 23:10
schestowitzit'll be over 40k again for sureJun 30 23:10
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DaemonFC[m]Oh well.Jun 30 23:14
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DaemonFC[m]I have to take a sin away for the Compiz Desktop Cube.Jun 30 23:34
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DaemonFC[m]The Everything Wrong With series goes too far sometimes. Why would the T-1000 throw the T-800 through a window and then walk away?Jun 30 23:53
DaemonFC[m]Uhm, because the primary target was fleeing and it didn't have time to continue the fight with the T-800. Plus, it was a superior model, so even if the T-800 caught up to it, it could just destroy it later. (In fact, it nearly did later.)Jun 30 23:54
DaemonFC[m]I always thought that the biggest Cinema Sin with T-2 was the fact that they just happen to be fleeing in terror from the T-1000 and happen to come across a truck carrying liquid nitrogen to freeze it with and then an ironworks with a smelting vat to melt it.Jun 30 23:56
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DaemonFC[m]It's an action movie. Don't think about it. B-)Jun 30 23:56
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