●● IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Thursday, June 30, 2022 ●●
● Jun 30
[00:00]	TR News	MIT: we pushed out the person who called our pedophile sponsor "serial rapist"
[00:00]	MinceR	not only are they poorly designed and poorly made, they also have a massive IT backdoor
[00:00]	matey	because if its a nissan leaf the other cars will beat it up and call it names
[00:00]	TR News	"We are happy to announce the release of Qt Design Studio 3.5." https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-design-studio-3.5-released
[00:00]	TR Bot	 Qt Design Studio 3.5 Released
[00:01]	matey	 not only are they poorly designed and poorly made, they also have a massive IT backdoor <- i mean all tech has pros and cons
[00:01]	matey	like systemd
[00:01]	matey	on the one hand, it destroyed gnu/linux and revealed the fsf to be... done, basically
[00:01]	matey	but then again, its marvelous for promoting bsd
[00:01]	TR News	ABCs of FreeDOS: 26 commands I use all the time | https://opensource.com/article/22/6/26-freedos-commands Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux
[00:01]	TR Bot	of FreeDOS: 26 commands I use all the time | Opensource.com
[00:02]	DaemonFC	Schestowitz-3, The software that drives your car around, and occasionally slams into a parked cop car or runs over some woman because it thinks she's a shopping bag flying across the road.
[00:02]	MinceR	so why not something like a Toyota bZ4X?
[00:02]	matey	apart from never having heard of it you mean
[00:02]	matey	(not kidding)
[00:02]	TR News	Proprietary and likely spyware, now or in the future. https://medevel.com/vivaldi/
[00:02]	TR Bot	 Vivaldi Browser gets a built-in a Mail client, Calendar and a Newsreader
[00:02]	DaemonFC	Matt Gulag should enjoy those paychecks while they last. If 200 people at Tesla couldn't make it work right, I doubt anyone else can.
[00:02]	matey	the joke requires a self-driving car
[00:03]	Schestowitz-3	DaemonFC: they didn't write the "logic" for "flying trash bag"
[00:03]	matey	i only know the tesla and the one garrett works on
[00:03]	matey	and between those i suppose i would get a tesla
[00:03]	matey	not for any technical reasons
[00:03]	DaemonFC	I wouldn't.
[00:03]	Schestowitz-3	like I said, it is a dead end
[00:03]	Schestowitz-3	based on personal experience
[00:03]	DaemonFC	I have enough fun out of the Buick.
[00:03]	Schestowitz-3	as a postdoc
[00:04]	DaemonFC	I had to jerry rig a fucking airbag sensor today.
[00:04]	matey	to be fair
[00:04]	Schestowitz-3	it can work
[00:04]	Schestowitz-3	but only in controlled environments
[00:04]	Schestowitz-3	like a warehouse
[00:04]	matey	the entire scientific community said the same about heavier-than-air flight
[00:04]	Schestowitz-3	amazon already does this
[00:04]	DaemonFC	Can you imagine what I'd run into with a Tesla? People complain the paint peels off them in the first 90 days of owning a BRAND NEW CAR.
[00:04]	DaemonFC	That's unacceptable.
[00:04]	matey	im not a huge fan of the technology at all
[00:04]	matey	but that doesnt mean its not feasible
[00:04]	DaemonFC	You have a 15 year old car with slight rust or a few paint problems, you live with it.
[00:05]	Schestowitz-3	even the warehouse one will go nuts when bad things happen
[00:05]	DaemonFC	But a brand new car where the paint starts peeling off the hood or the doors in 90 days?
[00:05]	Schestowitz-3	like shleves falling or bombs falling in the warehouse
[00:05]	Schestowitz-3	ask ukraine
[00:05]	DaemonFC	And you just paid over $100 grand for it?
[00:05]	Schestowitz-3	and then what?
[00:05]	Schestowitz-3	do nothing?
[00:05]	DaemonFC	Give me a fucking break.
[00:05]	Schestowitz-3	shut down?
[00:05]	matey	non-working prototypes really dont prove that bugs will never be worked out
[00:06]	Schestowitz-3	DaemonFC: they hire fake security pros
[00:06]	matey	they do show where the most obvious problems are
[00:06]	Schestowitz-3	for fear these cars will be taken over remotely
[00:06]	Schestowitz-3	so they hire people with no computer science education
[00:06]	matey	i mean non-self-driving cars have that problem
[00:06]	DaemonFC	Why doesn't an airbag sensor fail safe?
[00:06]	Schestowitz-3	whose skills is successfully faking being a "Security" pro
[00:06]	Schestowitz-3	that's likie me pretending to be a physician
[00:06]	DaemonFC	If it fails, it should assume that there is always a passenger over 100 pounds in the seat.
[00:06]	Schestowitz-3	because I'm a doictor
[00:06]	matey	dont get me started
[00:07]	Schestowitz-3	and saying,, "don't worry"
[00:07]	DaemonFC	Because that's the safe assumption 95% of the time.
[00:07]	Schestowitz-3	"I have experience"
[00:07]	Schestowitz-3	"I can do it"
[00:07]	Schestowitz-3	"I saw how it's done"
[00:07]	Schestowitz-3	"I diagnosed my wife"
[00:08]	matey	if people can debunk his understanding of computer science or security i encourage them to do so
[00:08]	matey	i mean, there ARE examples where he prefers...
[00:08]	DaemonFC	Schestowitz-3, I know I shouldn't, but we've been making fun of this homeless guy who chased us down over at the gas station the other day.
[00:08]	matey	models of security that impress roughly none of us, including me
[00:08]	matey	"move all authority upstream and pretend we didnt"
[00:08]	DaemonFC	He was like "HEY HEY HEY!" in this really gruff voice...."HEY HEY HEY GUY IN THE BLUE SHIRT HEY HEY HEY!".
[00:09]	matey	"technically microsoft doesnt control this if you recompile the firmware"
[00:09]	matey	^ this is hyperbole
[00:09]	DaemonFC	Mandy sometimes goes "HEY HEY HEY!" And I start singing that song, "I'm just a love machine!".
[00:09]	MinceR	30 010259 < matey> the joke requires a self-driving car
[00:09]	MinceR	those don't exist yet
[00:09]	matey	jokes often cut corners on realism
[00:10]	matey	mine involved a tesla shopping at tesco
[00:10]	TR News	Beyond Lithium-Ion: The Many Use Cases for the Rechargeable Battery https://tedium.co/2022/06/29/rechargeable-battery-history/ Source: tedium
[00:10]	TR Bot	 Beyond Lithium-Ion: The Many Use Cases for the Rechargeable Battery
[00:10]	MinceR	and either there will be self-driving-car-only road networks with some sort of coordinating between the cars, or we need human-level general AI in self-driving cars
[00:10]	MinceR	so they'll understand written signs and context correctly
[00:10]	MinceR	otherwise it's just asking for trouble
[00:10]	matey	is it fair to ask them to do more than real drivers 
[00:11]	TR News	Ecuadors Attempt to Resettle Edward Snowden - Schneier on Security https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/06/ecuadors-attempt-to-resettle-edward-snowden.html Source: schneier https://www.dailydot.com/debug/exclusive-hacked-documents-ecuadors-edward-snowden/
[00:11]	TR Bot	Attempt to Resettle Edward Snowden - Schneier on Security
[00:11]	TR Bot	 Ecuadorian Embassy Hack In Russia Details Discussions On Snowden
[00:11]	MinceR	the "have a human monitor it in real time and intervene in real time if it fucks up" paradigm doesn't work and never will work
[00:11]	matey	"yellow light detected, spooling turbo..."
[00:11]	MinceR	it just makes things more dangerous
[00:12]	DaemonFC	"or we need human-level general AI in self-driving cars"
[00:12]	matey	im not sure it isnt all a fucking horrible idea
[00:12]	DaemonFC	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOtzN0u6jv4
[00:12]	TR Bot	https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=sOtzN0u6jv4
[00:12]	MinceR	unless maybe we can make humans react really, really, really fast and never get tired of watching a machine drive, waiting for it to make a mistake
[00:12]	TR Bot	timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=sOtzN0u6jv4 )
[00:12]	matey	im only unconvinced it is beyond a shadow of a doubt
[00:12]	MinceR	bots are very useful in fetching the title as usual
[00:12]	matey	actually they fail at that all the time
[00:12]	MinceR	indeed
[00:12]	matey	if self-driving cares cant do better than roys rss reader, we really are fucked
[00:13]	matey	and if they run systemd they should be impounded
[00:13]	TR News	A Rust-in-GCC update https://lwn.net/Articles/899385/ putting parts of GCC in Microsoft's proprietary GitHub is part of the attack on GNU
[00:13]	TR Bot	Rust-in-GCC update [LWN.net]
[00:13]	MinceR	if they run code from ibm, MICROS~1 or crApple or code of that quality level, they're death traps on wheels
[00:14]	matey	youre on the freeway and your car decides it cant postpone updates any longer
[00:14]	matey	or you sit for 30 minutes in the middle of the autobahn trying to connect to the internet
[00:15]	matey	microsoft provides free towing to mvps
[00:15]	matey	to tow an apple car you need a dongle
[00:15]	TR News	WebExtension Support in Epiphany Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166650
[00:15]	TR Bot	 WebExtension Support in Epiphany | Tux Machines
[00:16]	MinceR	i doubt you even can tow a crApple car
[00:16]	MinceR	maybe they'll allow you put it on a trailer though
[00:16]	MinceR	if you can make a place to connect its winch to
[00:17]	MinceR	MICROS~1 officially supports towing, but their implementation doesn't actually work
[00:18]	matey	trying to steer with a jogwheel is a bitch though
[00:18]	matey	keep your fingertips at 2 and 10 o clock
[00:18]	matey	and make sure you hold it correctly
[00:18]	MinceR	dehomag managed to have some volunteer design a recovery point into their vehicle, and it sort of works for a while, but they proudly announced that the next version of their car won't have one anymore
[00:18]	DaemonFC	"That attendant had it rough. He was robbed, witnessed a kidnapping, and judging by how remote the gas station is, he survived the nuclear apocalypse and experienced the rise of the machines."
[00:18]	MinceR	making it more in line with crApple and MICROS~1 and thus more "modern"
[00:18]	TR News	LLVM 15.0.0 Release Schedule https://discourse.llvm.org/t/llvm-15-0-0-release-schedule/63495/3
[00:18]	TR Bot	 LLVM 15.0.0 Release Schedule - #3 by brooks - LLVM Project - LLVM Discussion Forums
[00:19]	DaemonFC	" All in one shift XD"
[00:19]	DaemonFC	Never thought about that.
[00:19]	TR News	Collabora Online Developer Edition (CODE) 22.05 and LibreOffice News Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166651
[00:19]	TR Bot	 Collabora Online Developer Edition (CODE) 22.05 and LibreOffice News | Tux Machines
[00:19]	matey	i got one of the prototype dehomag cars
[00:19]	matey	it still had a the skull and lightning bolts
[00:19]	MinceR	the earlier prototype it is, the more of it actually works
[00:20]	matey	even lambos are made by dehomag now
[00:20]	TR News	Red Hat: we've become all about CLOWN.... i.e. nothing meaningful https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-shares-get-started-cloud-services
[00:20]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Shares Get started with cloud services
[00:20]	matey	or at least volkswagon
[00:21]	matey	they still look good (ive seen one up close) but an italian sports car made by a german company?
[00:21]	TR News	Red Hat original: engineers and geeks. Under IBM: marketing company.
[00:21]	matey	doesnt everyone think thats a bit weird
[00:22]	matey	i mean if i were german id rather watch rocky with subtitles than dubbing
[00:22]	TR News	User Liberation https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/user-liberation/
[00:22]	TR Bot	 User Liberation GNU MediaGoblin
[00:22]	TR News	The University of Costumed Heroes http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-university-of-costumed-heroes/
[00:22]	TR Bot	 The University of Costumed Heroes GNU MediaGoblin
[00:22]	TR News	ShoeTool http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/shoetool/
[00:22]	TR Bot	 ShoeTool GNU MediaGoblin
[00:22]	matey	dubbing ruins a film
[00:22]	TR News	Escape to Freedom http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/escape-to-freedom/
[00:22]	TR Bot	 Escape to Freedom GNU MediaGoblin
[00:23]	TR News	Fight to Repair http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/fight-to-repair/
[00:23]	TR Bot	 Fight to Repair GNU MediaGoblin
[00:23]	matey	unless its a kung fu movie, then you NEED that
[00:23]	TR News	Rewind http://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/rewind/
[00:23]	TR Bot	 Rewind GNU MediaGoblin
[00:23]	XRevan86	https://t.me/supertima/454 So I saw this pro-Kremlin post which tried to use lossy video compression as proof that the first Kh-22 missile in Kremenchuh hit much closer to the factory than to the mall.
[00:23]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @supertima
[00:23]	XRevan86	Because of that I opened Google Maps again and made this: https://i.ibb.co/RY3Z7kc/image.jpg
[00:23]	TR News	xkcd: Periodic Table Changes https://xkcd.com/2639/ Source: xkcd
[00:23]	TR Bot	Periodic Table Changes
[00:24]	MinceR	looking good is the only thing lambos were ever good for
[00:24]	XRevan86	Just from perspective it should be obvious that the missile hit farther from the camera than the yellow part of the mall building.
[00:24]	matey	but presumably italians make Real sports cars too...
[00:24]	matey	or maybe they dont
[00:25]	MinceR	i don't care, i wouldn't want a german car, i wouldn't want an italian car and i wouldn't want a german/italian car either
[00:25]	matey	i dont actually want a car 
[00:25]	MinceR	what's a "Real sports car"?
[00:25]	matey	i was hoping youd know
[00:25]	MinceR	lol
[00:25]	MinceR	well, it's probably something like a Mazda MX-5 or a Toyota GR86
[00:25]	MinceR	built to be fun to drive, not to break acceleration records
[00:25]	TR News	FLOSS Weekly 687: Open Source Roundtable - Discussing Open Source Security Holes https://twit.tv/shows/floss-weekly/episodes/687 is FLOSS Weekly done shilling for criminals from Microsoft and Gates & Lolita Foundation?
[00:25]	TR Bot	 Open Source Roundtable
[00:25]	matey	so a real italian sports car would be... japanese
[00:26]	MinceR	lol
[00:26]	matey	hey i dont make the rules, im just reading them
[00:26]	MinceR	a real italian sports car is a contradiction in terms
[00:26]	MinceR	a broken-down rolling sculpture can't be fun to drive
[00:26]	matey	i knew you knew
[00:26]	matey	but i didnt have any details to work with
[00:26]	MinceR	it's not fun to sit in a cramped space and remain still
[00:27]	matey	a broken-down rolling sculpture can't be fun to drive <- i dunno, theyre pretty cool to climb into and out of
[00:27]	TR News	Reminder that Torvalds is not REALLY in control of Linux https://yewtu.be/watch?v=b1lIU8Hp6XU
[00:27]	TR Bot	 Rust Coming Soon To A Linux Kernel Near You!! - Invidious
[00:27]	MinceR	it's not even fun to have a trailer move it around while you sit in it
[00:27]	matey	there arent enough cars that are like spaceships on the inside
[00:27]	TR News	"GNU/Linux distributions need bootloaders during installation. These bootloaders are responsible for loading system files that run when you install any GNU/Linux distro. If you are developing any GNU/Linux distribution, you may need to work with bootloaders so users can install it on their systems." https://www.makeuseof.com/types-of-syslinux-bootloaders/
[00:27]	TR Bot	 Understanding the Different Types of Syslinux Bootloaders
[00:28]	matey	im not saying its practical. there are different kinds of fun
[00:28]	matey	most people dont drive OUTSIDE the car though
[00:28]	matey	thats where they put most of the sexy looks
[00:28]	matey	you get in and its... okay
[00:29]	matey	the exteriors get cool looking a lot faster than the interiors imo
[00:30]	matey	but if this is frivolous (And it is) remember
[00:30]	matey	im not actually in the market for a car
[00:30]	matey	so its a bit like fantasy baseball
[00:31]	TR News	"Murphy regarding a particular form of communication between egos: if one tells another something the latter needs to know to not screw up, the latter becomes indignant for the seeming implication they're an idiot" gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1048
[00:31]	matey	its not like you can just hire those players
[00:31]	matey	even if you had the money, they have contracts
[00:31]	TR News	eXaDrums is an open source, low-latency electronic drum system | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/29/exadrums-is-an-open-source-low-latency-electronic-drum-system/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[00:31]	TR Bot	 eXaDrums is an open source, low-latency electronic drum system | Arduino Blog
[00:31]	matey	and the team owners would kill you
[00:32]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166652
[00:32]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[00:32]	matey	a lot of houses are the opposite
[00:32]	matey	boring af on the outside, then you go in and its like-- wow
[00:33]	MinceR	i've seen many good looking interiors
[00:34]	MinceR	i particularly like it when USians decide to make the interior of a pickup really nice and practical
[00:34]	matey	it almost has to be
[00:34]	matey	nothing about the rest of the truck is, for 90% of the people who own them
[00:34]	MinceR	:>
[00:34]	matey	i never bitch about contractors driving big trucks if they need one
[00:34]	MinceR	well, i'd hope the bed is practical too
[00:34]	MinceR	what's the point of a pickup truck if it isn't?
[00:35]	matey	gettin girls with painted on jeans and takin that old dirt road to the lake and drinkin some of that good stuff?
[00:36]	matey	/me has moved so many thousands of miles away from where country music emanates from but its fucking everywhere
[00:36]	TR News	Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166654
[00:36]	TR Bot	 Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft | Tux Machines
[00:36]	TR News	Modding With Arduino: eXaDrums, Voltage Meter, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166653
[00:36]	TR Bot	 Modding With Arduino: eXaDrums, Voltage Meter, and More | Tux Machines
[00:39]	matey	 Countrymusic24 Listen Live - Berlin, Germany | Online Radio Box
[00:40]	matey	In Tokyo, Japan, Country Music Finds an Audience - AFAR
[00:40]	MinceR	lol
[00:40]	MinceR	pretty sure girls can just ride in regular seats
[00:40]	DaemonFC	Schestowitz-3, The Vivaldi Mail client is pretty nice actually.
[00:41]	matey	WTF
[00:41]	matey	 The Congo Cowboys - www.congocowboys.com Africa
[00:41]	matey	www.congocowboys.com
[00:41]	matey	The Congo Cowboys: music that draws on the foot stompin qualities of bluegrass country, reimagined through Kwassa Kwassa African rhythms 
[00:41]	matey	seriously?!
[00:41]	MinceR	ah, the rhythms of kvass
[00:41]	matey	/me is going to need something harder than kvass
[00:41]	MinceR	:>
[00:41]	MinceR	hardbass?
[00:42]	matey	i was thinking vodka
[00:42]	matey	"we play both kinds-- country, AND western!"
[00:43]	MinceR	lol
[00:44]	matey	"our musical director is stan byermann"
[00:45]	matey	"our legal team is from the law offices of dewey, cheatham and howe" (now sfc)
[00:45]	MinceR	:>
[00:55]	DaemonFC	https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-tracking-office-attendance-badge-use-warns-employees-elon-musk-2022-6
[00:55]	TR Bot	 Tesla Tracks Employees Who Haven't 'Badged in' to Office: Email
[00:55]	DaemonFC	I replied:
[00:55]	DaemonFC	"Well they won't have to worry too long since he's firing about 500 people every day now."
[00:57]	MinceR	:>
[00:58]	TR News	F37 Change Proposal: Unfiltered Flathub (System-Wide Change) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/X7XDXRLJIXLB6PYJBY4QWNCRBILU2NYY/
[00:58]	TR Bot	 F37 Change Proposal: Unfiltered Flathub (System-Wide Change) - devel - Fedora Mailing-Lists
[00:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.43 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.18 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[00:59]	TR News	Hello World for Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) https://developers.redhat.com/crw-hw
[00:59]	TR Bot	 Hello World for Red Hat OpenShift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) | Red Hat Developer
● Jun 30
[01:00]	TR News	Sharing your Container Development Environment with Red Hat Openshift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) | Red Hat Developer https://developers.redhat.com/crw-fmi "Resources to help you make the most of Red Hat Openshift Dev Spaces."
[01:00]	TR Bot	 Sharing your Container Development Environment with Red Hat Openshift Dev Spaces (formerly CodeReady Workspaces) | Red Hat Developer
[01:01]	TR News	Data@Mozilla: This Week in Glean: Reviewing a Book Rust in Action https://blog.mozilla.org/data/2022/06/29/this-week-in-glean-reviewing-a-book-rust-in-action/
[01:01]	TR Bot	 This Week in Glean: Reviewing a Book Rust in Action Data@Mozilla
[01:02]	TR News	Glean = Mozilla spyware
[01:03]	TR News	Git internals and SHA-1 https://retout.co.uk/2022/06/29/git-internals-and-sha1/ Source: retout (Tim Retout)
[01:03]	TR Bot	 Git internals and SHA-1 Tim Retout
[01:04]	TR News	Clown computing = you own nothing, you're a slave of large companies that work for the US military https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/29/greenlake-finally-a-platform-that-hpe-utterly-controls/
[01:04]	TR Bot	 GreenLake: Finally, A Platform That HPE Utterly Controls
[01:05]	TR News	Subscription model is promoted by those who promote perpetual rental: people who own all the homes inspire those trying to control all the data and all the computers. Don't fall for it.
[01:07]	TR News	Smart Match in CPAN http://blogs.perl.org/users/tom_wyant/2022/06/smart-match-in-cpan.html
[01:07]	TR Bot	Match in CPAN | Tom Wyant [blogs.perl.org]
[01:08]	TR News	Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166654
[01:08]	TR Bot	 Videos: GNU Guix, Rust, Security, and Mycroft | Tux Machines
[01:09]	XRevan86	https://t.me/supertima/453 here he shows the camera angle he picked. That's just wrong, very obviously wrong. But sure enough, big Z-channels picked it up: https://t.me/warfakes/4343
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @supertima
[01:09]	TR Bot	 Telegram: Contact @warfakes
[01:10]	XRevan86	matey: Imagine the level of bullshitting if even I can figure out they're wrong without any investigative background.
[01:12]	TR News	Lilbits: Nothing Phone (1) has a mid-range processor, Samsung developing a cheap(er) foldable https://liliputing.com/2022/06/lilbits-nothing-phone-1-has-a-mid-range-processor-samsung-developing-a-cheaper-foldable.html
[01:12]	TR Bot	Nothing Phone (1) has a mid-range processor, Samsung developing a cheap(er) foldable - Liliputing
[01:12]	XRevan86	And "War with Fakes" even used the satellite images that clearly show that the back wall of the mall is gone. And they say it didn't fall apart. I don't get that.
[01:13]	TR News	Phoronix: we post marketing for AMD. wccftech: We post marketing for Phoronix marketing of AMD https://wccftech.com/linux-gamers-should-stick-with-mesas-radv-drivers-for-rdna-2-gpus-as-it-outperforms-amds-official-amdvlk-vulkan-driver/
[01:13]	TR Bot	 Linux Gamers Should Stick With Mesa's RADV Drivers For RDNA 2 GPUs As It Outperforms AMD's Official AMDVLK Vulkan Driver
[01:14]	TR News	"Using the Windows Subsystem for Linux" -- no! this is an ATTACK on GNU/Linux. There's no reason to promote this attack. Even a VM is better. https://www.xda-developers.com/does-dell-xps-13-2022-run-linux/
[01:14]	TR Bot	 Does the Dell XPS 13 (2022) run Linux? Can you install it?
[01:15]	XRevan86	It did take me a bit to find the exact spot of the camera, so their idiotic audience will probably buy their arguments.
[01:15]	TR News	Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166655
[01:15]	TR Bot	 Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:15]	TR News	Summer [GNOME] Maps Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166656
[01:15]	TR Bot	 Summer [GNOME] Maps | Tux Machines
[01:17]	TR News	Putting in the title "open source GitHub" is misleading; Github is an attack on open source and it is proprietary https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/29/toxic_interaction_github_open_source/
[01:17]	TR Bot	 'Toxic' open source GitHub discussions analyzed in study The Register
[01:20]	TR News	This is a Microsoft issue, not a "Linux" issue http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34190 also see http://techrights.org/2021/09/30/azure-brute-force/
[01:20]	TR Bot	 Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
[01:20]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Whistleblower and Clients Warned, More Than 2 Years Ago in Fact, About the Current Azure Mess (But Microsoft Ignored Those Warnings, Buried Facts) | Techrights
[01:21]	TR News	"If youre starting out with Bash scripting on Linux, getting a solid grasp of the basics will stand you in good stead. Theyre the foundation of deeper knowledge and higher scripting skills." https://www.howtogeek.com/808593/bash-script-examples/
[01:21]	TR Bot	 9 Bash Script Examples to Get You Started on Linux
[01:24]	TR News	Microsoft-connected site overlooks far more severe and unpatched, actively-exploited Microsoft holes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34191
[01:24]	TR Bot	 Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
[01:25]	TR News	AMD's Radeon RX 7000 GPUs could feature hardware HEY HI processors similar to Nvidia's Tensor cores, as suggested by latest Linux patches https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-s-Radeon-RX-7000-GPUs-could-feature-hardware-AI-processors-similar-to-Nvidia-s-Tensor-cores-as-suggested-by-latest-Linux-patches.632297.0.html
[01:25]	TR Bot	Radeon RX 7000 GPUs could feature hardware AI processors similar to Nvidia's Tensor cores, as suggested by latest Linux patches - NotebookCheck.net News
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[01:27]	TR News	Russian Windows Users are Turning to Sharing and GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166627#comment-34192
[01:27]	TR Bot	 Russians are searching for pirated Microsoft products and switching to Linux as the Western corporate exodus hits software updates and services: report | Tux Machines
[01:28]	TR News	If you install malware (bad software), bad things will happen https://blog.sonatype.com/python-dateutils-a-moner-cryptominer-in-disguise-for-windows-linux-macos
[01:28]	TR Bot	 python-dateutilsA Cryptominer in Disguise Targeting Windows, Linux, macOS
[01:30]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D277.jpg
[01:31]	TR News	[cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D277.jpg
[01:32]	MinceR	:3
[01:37]	DaemonFC	https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/google-in-talks-to-buy-chicagos-thompson-center-report
[01:37]	TR Bot	 Google in talks to buy Chicago's Thompson Center: report
[01:38]	DaemonFC	Schestowitz-3, After the state got rid of it for nothing and wouldn't say what it would be used for.
[01:39]	DaemonFC	Although to be fair, they were going to tear it down and it was in horrible condition.
[01:39]	DaemonFC	Whatever Google pays for it they're also going to have to spend a lot of money gutting it and refurbishing it from top to bottom.
[01:39]	DaemonFC	So jobs, I guess.
[01:39]	DaemonFC	I can see why they'd want to expand in Illinois if it's that or California.
[01:40]	DaemonFC	California is where things go to get taxed and die.
[01:40]	DaemonFC	Even before they had to shut down the sriracha plant because of the crop failure, California residents tried to chase the guy out because they claimed the place was smelling up the neighborhood.
[01:41]	DaemonFC	Then of course they had plans to replace those hundreds of jobs and all kinds of obscene California taxes the guy was paying that he wouldn't have to if he moved literally anywhere else.
[01:41]	DaemonFC	They lost so many net residents in California over the past decade that it was like the entire population of Wyoming got up and moved out.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	Signs point to that accelerating.
[01:42]	DaemonFC	Now you have people like Musk who are mad that they were dumb enough to locate in California to begin with threatening people that if they don't "badge in" at the office enough, they're next with the layoffs.
[01:45]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166657
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[01:45]	TR News	Ubuntu and Debian: Multipass, syslog-ng, and virtnbdbackup Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166658
[01:45]	TR Bot	 Ubuntu and Debian: Multipass, syslog-ng, and virtnbdbackup | Tux Machines
[01:46]	TR News	Leftovers: AMD, Cockpit CMS, and EasyOS Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166659
[01:46]	TR Bot	 Leftovers: AMD, Cockpit CMS, and EasyOS | Tux Machines
[01:47]	TR News	Links 29/06/2022: Collabora Online Developer Edition 22.05 and HPLIP 3.22.6 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/hplip-3-22-6/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/hplip-3-22-6/
[01:47]	TR Bot	 Links 29/06/2022: Collabora Online Developer Edition 22.05 and HPLIP 3.22.6 | Techrights
[01:55]	Schestowitz-3	DaemonFC: tesla is failing not because of where it is located
[01:55]	Schestowitz-3	it's a massive bubble if not fraud
[01:55]	Schestowitz-3	making huge promises
[01:55]	Schestowitz-3	on little actual basis
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	any car company can make an EV
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	or hybris
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	and they have a history of making solid cars
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	tesla cannot compete with that
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	aside from that, those are not green cars
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	they're likely less polluting
[01:56]	Schestowitz-3	or polluting further away from people/roads
[01:56]	MinceR	crApple is a massive bubble too, yet they're not in such distress
[01:56]	MinceR	then again, they're in california too
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[02:01]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1542297819196841987
[02:01]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: here is another look into the twisted world of Putin's propagandists, as they plot to influence public opinion and divide the United States by using the issue of abortions and social injustice in order to "dismember America.""|nitter
[02:02]	TR News	Building a simple USB adapter for the Logitech Driving Force Shifter with Arduino | Arduino Blog https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/30/building-a-simple-usb-adapter-for-the-logitech-driving-force-shifter-with-arduino/ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking
[02:02]	TR Bot	 Building a simple USB adapter for the Logitech Driving Force Shifter with Arduino | Arduino Blog
[02:03]	TR News	Retrofitting Jonathan Cohens house for energy efficiency Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166660
[02:03]	TR Bot	 Retrofitting Jonathan Cohens house for energy efficiency | Tux Machines
[02:15]	Schestowitz-3	XRevan86: putin's man appointed 3 justices
[02:15]	Schestowitz-3	2 of them, male
[02:16]	XRevan86	I heard.
[02:16]	Schestowitz-3	all 3 votes against women's interest
[02:16]	Schestowitz-3	unlike sotomayer and kagan
[02:16]	Schestowitz-3	so without those 3
[02:16]	Schestowitz-3	breyer, RBG, keneddy (iirc)
[02:16]	Schestowitz-3	would vote to protect roe
[02:17]	Schestowitz-3	that's trumpism
[02:17]	XRevan86	Trump got lucky and was able to screw the US over for many years to come.
[02:17]	Schestowitz-3	yes, he choe young ones too
[02:17]	Schestowitz-3	so they can stay there 30+ years
[02:18]	XRevan86	"Why are things so bad?" "Well, ye see, my child, 30 years ago one stable genius was very briefly a POTUS"
[02:19]	Schestowitz-3	the more decent justices are older
[02:19]	Schestowitz-3	like breyer who left
[02:19]	Schestowitz-3	so the testicles of trump will outlive them
[02:22]	TR News	[Meme] EPO Rewarding Corruption Instead of Upholding the Law and Protecting the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-rewards-for-complicity/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-rewards-for-complicity/
[02:22]	TR Bot	 [Meme] EPO Rewarding Corruption Instead of Upholding the Law and Protecting the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
[02:35]	TR News	European Patent Office is a Kakistocracy Illustrated | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-kakistocracy-examples/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-kakistocracy-examples/
[02:35]	TR Bot	 European Patent Office is a Kakistocracy Illustrated | Techrights
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[02:39]	schestowitz	The original web was a revelation. It may be lo-fi compared to what we know today, but it was a dream for academics, scientists, and indie hobbyists. The Internet connected computers and people around the world."  gemini://tbeseda.smol.pub/enhance-story
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[02:39]	TR Bot	 IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Wednesday, June 29, 2022
[02:41]	TR News	2022/0629/1600 cockies gemini://apintandaparma.club/~ajft/phlog/2022-06-29.gmi
[02:42]	TR News	Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! : http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-29.txt | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-29.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now)
[02:43]	DaemonFC	<Schestowitz-3> and they have a history of making solid cars
[02:44]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I'm having enough fun with my Buick's airbag sensor, and that's one relatively simple sensor.
[02:44]	DaemonFC	There's really no diagnostic time involved because you describe what it's doing and they know what it is.
[02:45]	DaemonFC	Imagine a car full of sensors and wiring and two engines, and lithium ion battery cells, and regenerative braking parts, and lane assist sensors that have to be recalibrated for $9,000 after a fender bender.
[02:45]	DaemonFC	Now imagine how well that's going to age in Illinois, where for 4-5 months out of the year, you're driving in a slush of half-melted snow and road salt.
[02:46]	DaemonFC	And on top of all of this, there's a lot of software. Software that you can't even see. 
[02:46]	DaemonFC	You have no idea how the car works because it's more software than machine at this point.
[02:47]	DaemonFC	You take it to a mechanic that was somewhat qualified to work on a Buick, and he has to go "Aww shucks. I don't know. Take it to the dealership?".
[02:47]	DaemonFC	Yeah, Car-X just uses aftermarket parts they source from all over the place.
[02:48]	DaemonFC	Literally all over the place. And most of them are alright, but the discount auto parts store isn't going to have stuff that is compatible for sure with some of these advanced cars they have out now.
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[02:56]	Schestowitz-3	DaemonFC: Check out this draft:
[02:56]	Schestowitz-3	http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/
[02:56]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Windows Market Share in Russia in 2022: Down From 55% to 50% in 5 Months | Techrights
[02:56]	Schestowitz-3	XRevan86: ^^
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[03:00]	TR News	Microsoft Windows Market Share in Russia in 2022: Down From 55% to 50% in 5 Months | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/
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[03:01]	psydruid	https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/14656337
[03:01]	TR Bot	 TUXEDO P7xxTM1 - Geekbench Browser
[03:01]	psydruid	"the real issue is that Intel lied and the i9-9900K can spike to 205W actual power when running at 100% even without OC"
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	you cheapskate!
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	you cannot power it?
[03:02]	psydruid	this is looking more and more like a pyramid scheme
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	"your oven takes up more power"
[03:02]	psydruid	lol
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	"the vacuum clear is worse"
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	"leave on the vacuum clear all day long"
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	*cleaner
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	stingy
[03:02]	Schestowitz-3	frugal
[03:03]	Schestowitz-3	you and your 5watt processor
[03:03]	Schestowitz-3	to surf a web page
[03:04]	Schestowitz-3	I am tempted to find a page
[03:04]	Schestowitz-3	that shows power usage per applicance
[03:04]	Schestowitz-3	and see where 200w fits
[03:04]	Schestowitz-3	depends on brands and sizes
[03:04]	psydruid	the US is shielded from this for now by (artificially) low energy prices
[03:04]	Schestowitz-3	a fridge going at full blast because it is warm is probably less than 200w
[03:05]	Schestowitz-3	psydruid: how so?
[03:05]	Schestowitz-3	energy prices went up there too
[03:05]	Schestowitz-3	not just gasoline
[03:05]	psydruid	but it just doesn't make any financial sense anymore to have such a wasteful computer
[03:05]	psydruid	people tell me they still only pay $0.11 per kWh
[03:05]	Schestowitz-3	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20212022_inflation_surge
[03:05]	TR Bot	 20212022 inflation surge - Wikipedia
[03:05]	DaemonFC	Schestowitz-3, Windows long term trend is definitely down, even on desktop PCs.
[03:06]	Schestowitz-3	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Housing_prices_inflation.webp
[03:06]	TR Bot	 File:Housing prices inflation.webp - Wikipedia
[03:06]	DaemonFC	And that doesn't even tell the entire story.
[03:06]	DaemonFC	When the economy gets bad, who is buying new computers all the time?
[03:06]	Schestowitz-3	https://blogs.worldbank.org/developmenttalk/energy-shock-could-sap-global-growth-years
[03:06]	TR Bot	 The energy shock could sap global growth for years
[03:06]	MinceR	slower devices are going to take longer to load and render the page, so perhaps it's better to calculate the amount of energy used to do that and the amount of power used then to keep it displayed and animated :>
[03:06]	Schestowitz-3	https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/20/global-oil-crisis-and-inflation-hurt-consumers-world-energy-council.html
[03:06]	TR Bot	 Global oil crisis and inflation hurt consumers: World Energy Council
[03:07]	MinceR	or perhaps the amount of energy spent on loading and rendering the page and once it's usable, on it being used for something like 1 minute
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[03:07]	Schestowitz-3	QbAgGRJUi6VKK2W0murbVsJ06bc+/uOXfPPvL//zt3AL34kiPHUtbN5/kSS4TwGPwwGMzgRYBneqY/DpEW+QBofAXiI23+N6M2kqyiruITaOS2iQHNFP7bOgQIbCOs/pBdMbAue8PW5hmgweK2pN0/aBa6y3sbQtoBmxwfi+SWuaFf+oG7+ASGU5M934dy3F/6/vD9WX8RFutEjwIyP9dQnmcQnktWX18XHMbTi4u5YncJ/hrNptOJwoLK2fRiWQLI2QLwYQ7ZeRmfA5/OfeFLlyaTGOliVsw0wKKuzoVYXt4YSM4F5n65iOBsNgF1rgmWM2auaBXMYjjD0oHNL29TAHN9EwKGXM4ZQ448h6l7Ant7Oeb4pJaXtxVAhh8JkMV0DGJ2kajZRQr2YqYgn11Otee7VqDPke/p9GI8q0CeYzJfN
[03:07]	Schestowitz-3	5khn1PjqgwpRo9gdIHhiy9rhDUxOoc5NXB3A7d0MqbnMLuaTC6vBK0djnQ6uaGIX0oX9TUVkFAa4QMNM5qOKSzpqq7Xl/Xk/TtBZ3U9LukYFA0NZefvbU0D/BLTaXFNVUjpmaJlQYMRxeawNDKUKksRxwUdzaiIqRnTMqPTmNY3dJW3olNDxxFdGMdRRi+LKQ0EvSqWdAJXV5RbSouIYoZT5M3S8+KWlhr5vqZRSe14Ts/H5ZSyxRU2g6vb+xtFL+oljQMqQzorbmhW0/FkUj8KR6wBp1c3giY5tQAh1dNrIRZU0sLjiGHX5ygiNBRLyuH2HGuT0qsrTdMJTRBiWQmAm1shLqigk0gTzBEM5YaKy2sbBYiVpFPXYEvr05VzGkTB2QrHK3rucCTLAgKqrjHe1UIvMsAUZoVjuVDwflEuJNAl
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[03:08]	MinceR	i remember when people joked about using a video as the wallpaper
[03:08]	MinceR	the "modern" web made it a reality
[03:08]	DaemonFC	https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/29/thanks-to-leftist-corruption-u-s-military-recruiting-is-in-total-freefall/
[03:08]	TR Bot	 Thanks To Leftist Corruption, U.S. Military Recruiting Is In Total Freefall
[03:08]	DaemonFC	Nobody wants to die anymore!
[03:08]	MinceR	lol
[03:09]	DaemonFC	"As a result of its massive recruiting shortfalls, the U.S. Army has lowered its standards, dropping requirements for recruits to have a high school diploma or GED to enlist, while relaxing tattoo restrictions to allow tattoos on hands and neck without a waiver. These two decisions will result in a less capable force with troublesome discipline issues. The Army is even offering enlistment contracts as short as two years barely enough tim
[03:09]	DaemonFC	e to learn the basics of modern warfare.
[03:09]	DaemonFC	The DoD is even reviewing more than 250 disqualifications for service, such as asthma and ADHD."
[03:09]	MinceR	"Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?"
[03:09]	DaemonFC	Meanwhile, they mock Putin for throwing prisoners and conscripts with three days training into Ukraine.
[03:09]	DaemonFC	The Pentagon is about a year or two away from this itself.
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[03:10]	MinceR	i thought the pentagon had access to all sorts of unmanned vehicles
[03:10]	MinceR	and the usian military industrial complex has spent ages developing robots that have legs
[03:11]	schestowitz_log_	https://arab.news/9dcgw
[03:11]	TR Bot	 World Bank warns of inflation in low-income countries as energy prices rise | Arab News
[03:11]	schestowitz_log_	https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220225-2
[03:11]	TR Bot	 Energy inflation rate continues upward hike, hits 27% - Products Eurostat News - Eurostat
[03:11]	MinceR	maybe they'll soon be sending remote-controlled terminators to the battlefield :>
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[03:12]	DaemonFC	"With only 23 percent of Americans ages 17-24 qualified to serve in uniform without a waiver and just 9 percent of those eligible to serve even interested."
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[03:12]	DaemonFC	Wow, they took away all the good jobs and still ended up with that.
[03:12]	DaemonFC	I'm impressed.
[03:12]	DaemonFC	By 2004 the jobs market in Indiana was pretty terrible.
[03:12]	DaemonFC	It went from almost every factory job I applied at calling me in a day or two to going weeks and then getting a call from Walmart.
[03:12]	MinceR	"serve in a uniform" is a bit vague
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[03:13]	MinceR	some places might have waiters in uniform
[03:13]	DaemonFC	The good jobs left under Bush because they had complete confidence that he would take no action to prevent it from happening.
[03:13]	DaemonFC	"Some day some smart person will figure out what happened in here, but by then I'll be long gone." he allegedly said.
[03:14]	MinceR	:>
[03:14]	DaemonFC	"with some experts suggesting that a draft might be needed again"
[03:14]	MinceR	classic manager attitude
[03:14]	DaemonFC	Nobody is going to go along with this.
[03:15]	IPFS	QmSGNyqayw9Kb8GtH2D4DicRMEG9NuJ9kQEJo4KgFc1NeH
[03:15]	IPFS	 New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above.
[03:19]	matey	thought there was another runaway bot, but its just roy with image data
[03:19]	schestowitz_log_	some pages work like this now
[03:20]	schestowitz_log_	they don't have image files
[03:20]	schestowitz_log_	they use data:
[03:20]	schestowitz_log_	and add it inline
[03:20]		*schestowitz_log_ is now known as schestowitz[TR]
[03:22]	DaemonFC	The Russian army is having lots of problems with defectors.
[03:22]	DaemonFC	They can go live a better life in Ukraine when this mess is over.
[03:22]	DaemonFC	They have no hope of ever fixing Russia if they live and go back there.
[03:23]	schestowitz[TR]	atm ukraine is worse
[03:23]	matey	they don't have image files <- they use data: <- and add it inline <- websites like that can be taken out and shot
[03:24]	matey	but the gnu project requires them, as it is on github
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[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	ms jack stoppeed in 2019 https://www.zdnet.com/blog/jacks-blog/
[03:36]	TR Bot	Blog | ZDNet
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	was still shilling his masters
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	with the fake value
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-has-become-the-third-us-company-to-achieve-a-trillion-dollar-valuation-albeit-briefly/
[03:36]	TR Bot	has become the third US company to achieve a trillion-dollar valuation | ZDNet
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	company makes losses
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	claims to be woprth this much
[03:36]	schestowitz[TR]	bailed out by trump and biden
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/
[03:37]	TR Bot	Broiler | ZDNet
[03:37]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe he did leave LF
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	as opposed to move to the fake "research" fake "dept"
[03:38]	schestowitz[TR]	he is not even using linux ! https://www.zdnet.com/article/apples-continuity-webcam-changes-everything-heres-how-to-use-it/
[03:38]	TR Bot	Continuity Webcam changes everything: Here's how to use it | ZDNet
[03:42]	DaemonFC	https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vnhi4k/like_why_on_earth_did_we_come_up_with_these/
[03:42]	TR Bot	 Like, why on earth did we come up with these stupid laws? : LateStageCapitalism
[03:42]	DaemonFC	Yeah, the local Burger King and McDonalds threaten you that if you go in to eat and stay more than 30 minutes, they'll call the cops and accuse you of loitering, and that your car will be towed away.
[03:43]	DaemonFC	Sounds like customer appreciation to me!
[03:44]	DaemonFC	I've noticed that this only happens in neighborhoods with a lot of black people.
[03:44]	DaemonFC	You go into a McDonalds in rural areas and there are no signs threatening you about staying too long. You can stay there as long as you want.
[03:45]	DaemonFC	They have like dozens of kids just loud and obnoxious and not even buying anything for hours.
[03:45]	DaemonFC	Nobody threatens to call the cops.
[03:46]	DaemonFC	The movies here tells minors that to see _any_ movie after 6 PM requires a parent or guardian and that each "guardian" has to be over 18 and that they can't be the "guardian" of more than 3 minors.
[03:46]	DaemonFC	Gurnee has a 7 PM curfew for minors though.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	In Indiana, there's theoretically a curfew for minors, but I used to be out by myself at night and never got bothered by the police.
[03:47]	DaemonFC	I was even on probation as a teenager and they said no leaving the house except for school and back without your parents, but nobody was monitoring me, so I didn't care.
[03:48]	DaemonFC	If you're not doing something illegal and drawing attention to yourself, you're unlikely to be stopped by the police just for walking around during the day, so they never caught me even though I was out somewhere by myself almost every day for a year.
[03:49]	DaemonFC	I can freely admit to that now of course because the statute of limitations was over with in like 2006.
[03:50]	DaemonFC	It's people who do something that's clearly illegal and have enemies that snitch on them who find themselves in trouble with probation usually.
[03:51]	DaemonFC	They told Gonad's son-in-law not to go into a bar.
[03:51]	DaemonFC	So not only did he go into a bar. He went to the bar next to the probation office to cash his paycheck.
[03:53]	DaemonFC	Sneak 0
[03:54]	DaemonFC	But like, yeah, I noticed there's this problem.
[03:54]	DaemonFC	Everywhere you go, there's shit to buy, right?
[03:55]	DaemonFC	And standing there without buying something long enough is a criminal offense.
[03:55]	DaemonFC	You go to the nature preserves to take a walk like your doctor said to do, and there's someone there to mug and rape you.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	If you shave your head and walk on a sidewalk without committing any sort of crime, the police will stop and demand to see your driver's license.
[03:56]	DaemonFC	But if you have hair, it's fine.
[03:57]	DaemonFC	If you check out a book at the library and it's useful as evidence in a criminal investigation, the police can get at it without a warrant.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	But you can linger as long as you want to at the library and read without checking anything out.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	The guy there asked why I would come in and read sometimes, all day and then bring my laptop with me.
[03:58]	DaemonFC	I go, "It's a public library, right?" Yeah. "I'm a member of the public."
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[03:59]	DaemonFC	If you check anything out, it tells you how much money the library saved you, but there's no line telling you how much the average person paid them that year in taxes.
[03:59]	DaemonFC	It's just "free", you know.
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[04:00]	DaemonFC	But it's something I actually used to approve of my tax money being spent on, before the USA PATRIOT ACT, the Health Department contact tracers, and them buying less books and CDs so they can dump my money into DRM that requires Windows or a Mac.
[04:00]	DaemonFC	The less important Windows gets, the nastier the public libraries get about insisting.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	It's like tax revenue must be down and they need Bill. Like NPR.
[04:01]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], ^
[04:01]	DaemonFC	Regarding Windows going from 99% to 74% desktop share globally. It's just not as important these days.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	You use to "need it" because it ran something that you couldn't run someplace else, or printers needed it, or you bought some tax software or a video game, and the list of things that only Windows does is dwindling.
[04:02]	DaemonFC	So Windows total goes down faster than Windows 11 goes up.
[04:02]	schestowitz[TR]	i see
[04:03]	DaemonFC	I upload my tax documents into a web browser app and the software runs on some other computer (TurboTax), and it tells me what the calculations are and sends them to the IRS.
[04:03]	DaemonFC	The IRS is so backed up that if you file a paper return, they may not even know you sent it to them for two years.
[04:05]	TR News	#Techrights Bulletin for Wednesday, June 29, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext
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[04:06]	TR News	#Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing
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[04:27]	psydruid	https://nitter.pussthecat.org/PixelzilIa/status/1541621490029715456
[04:27]	TR Bot	 Monster-Queen Pixel (@PixelzilIa): "Bringing this to EVERYONE's attention. I purposely didn't have my most recent card on my account because Epic has falsely charged me before, and this way I could have paypal to back me up if it happens again. I got this email, called my bank, and found out EPIC CONTACTED THEM (+)"|Nitter | PussTheCat.org
[04:28]	psydruid	scummy companies
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	with fre sofwtare you can discon nect from them
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	except if you want a new version
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	and you can turn that down
[04:30]	schestowitz[TR]	or even fork
[04:31]	schestowitz[TR]	proprieytary software = drug dealer
[04:32]	DaemonFC	https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-doubles-tips-after-swapping-toyota-tesla-model-3-2022-6
[04:32]	TR Bot	 Uber Driver Doubles Tips After Swapping Toyota for Tesla Model 3
[04:32]	DaemonFC	This is revolting.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	People tip you better if they like your car.
[04:32]	DaemonFC	:/
[04:32]	DaemonFC	My God, what is wrong with people?
[04:33]	DaemonFC	I usually leave a $5 on the table for the guy that has to clean up our mess at the Golden Corral.
[04:33]	DaemonFC	People are only tipping someone driving them around $1-$3?
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	he will need the tips
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	for repairs :-)
[04:33]	schestowitz[TR]	it does not even out
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[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	some uber "drivers" committed suicide
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	bought expensive cars
[04:34]	schestowitz[TR]	got underpaid
[04:34]	DaemonFC	Loan still due.
[04:34]	DaemonFC	Pay up chump, says the bank.
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC: 60% in the US own a home
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	matey says
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	inc. mortgages I assume
[04:35]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], The Golden Corral doesn't really pay people who bus tables all that well.
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	the bank owns them
[04:35]	DaemonFC	I think the tipped minimum wage.
[04:35]	schestowitz[TR]	iirc some places are 100% tips
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	i was told this inn  washingtonm
[04:36]	schestowitz[TR]	you even need to tip the bartender
[04:36]	DaemonFC	$7.20 an hour....fuck.
[04:36]	DaemonFC	So if you have a bunch of fat slobs who go in there and run you ragged and leave you nothing.
[04:36]	DaemonFC	There was this black lady on the phone with someone at the restaurant the other day YELLING about how stingy she was as a tipper.
[04:37]	DaemonFC	She actually bragged that she went to a place so many times without leaving a tip that she was asked to leave.
[04:37]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC:  typos? http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/
[04:37]	TR Bot	 Sitting Down Less | Techrights
[04:37]	DaemonFC	"I've been thrown out of better places than this, motherfuckers!" LOL
[04:37]	DaemonFC	Not an actual quote.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	That's rare. That a manager would ask a customer who doesn't tip to leave.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	It's their employee who isn't making any money.
[04:38]	DaemonFC	I wonder where this happened at.
[04:42]	TR News	 | Gemini address:
[04:42]	DaemonFC	Looks okay.
[04:43]	DaemonFC	I always thought the standing desk was the employer's way of saying they will make you uncomfortable just because they can.
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[04:43]	DaemonFC	John complained when they took the chairs away and brought in "standing chairs".
[04:43]	TR News	Sitting Down Less | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/
[04:43]	DaemonFC	Then yelled at people for sitting in them anyway and looking ridiculous.
[04:44]	DaemonFC	The TSA employed him for years, he didn't catch a single criminals.
[04:44]	DaemonFC	All he ever did was cost money and get written up that one time for flagging a pizza and then losing it in the airport at Midway.
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	TSA caught him
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	layoff
[04:44]	schestowitz[TR]	caught him catching people's packages
[04:45]	schestowitz[TR]	and I reported him to them
[04:45]	DaemonFC	I'm not supposed to know that the TSA locked down an entire checkpoint and went looking for a pizza and never found it because of him.
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[04:46]	DaemonFC	Then he missed a raise because he had the write up on his personnel file, so he had me sit down and draft a letter to the national headquarters in DC so he could get his write up removed and get his raise, which he did.
[04:46]	DaemonFC	They even gave him back pay.
[04:47]	DaemonFC	He told me a lot of things and said "Don't ever tell this to anyone.".
[04:47]	DaemonFC	The pizza thing is just one thing I'm not supposed to know about.
[04:48]	DaemonFC	It would embarrass them if the public was aware that the people working for them are idiots who can't even keep track of a pizza and force the airport to go under partial lockdown for half an hour before they give up and call off the search.
[04:49]	DaemonFC	It's not classified though. I mean, it's not a crime for me to know that. It is a crime that he told me that it happened after they said don't tell anyone.
[04:54]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Anything that shatters the government's image of being powerful and knowing everything can't be allowed to escape.
[04:55]	DaemonFC	They know a lot, but they don't know everything.
[04:55]	DaemonFC	They're trying to get to the point where they know everything.
[04:55]	AdmFubar	beginnings of a sonic screwdriver???   https://techxplore.com/news/2022-06-acoustic-levitation.html
[04:55]	TR Bot	 Novel construction system uses acoustic levitation to assemble parts
[04:55]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Mandy and I went to see the movie The Black Phone the other day.
[04:56]	schestowitz[TR]	denyphone
[04:56]	DaemonFC	Pretty good movie, but then I read a review about it, and the reviewer says that The Grabber (the child abductor) would never get away with it today.
[04:56]	DaemonFC	Because of cell phones and Ring doorbells.
[04:56]	DaemonFC	He said that's why it had to take place in 1979.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	And I was like, "It had to take place them? We didn't have smartphones and ring doorbells in 1989, or 1999, and barely had anything like that in 2009!".
[04:57]	DaemonFC	And the police even admit that they don't actually solve much crime now, but they still want them.
[04:57]	DaemonFC	From what I've seen, legally, they're as dangerous for you as they are for anyone who comes up and means you harm.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	Right? Like say you have to shoot a person who was invading your home and then the police yank the video, that you have no control over, and use it to prosecute you with.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	It's happened.
[04:58]	DaemonFC	They don't mention that this happens when they say they will pay you back for buying a Ring.
[04:58]	schestowitz[TR]	DaemonFC:  typos? http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/
[04:58]	TR Bot	 Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier | Techrights
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[04:59]	DaemonFC	What if you have someone over at your house and they're there to help you commit a crime?
[04:59]	DaemonFC	A crime that both of you want to be a part of but which is illegal nonetheless.
[04:59]	DaemonFC	The video is on Amazon's server.
[04:59]	DaemonFC	The police can yank it.
[04:59]	DaemonFC	You get a one way ticket to the slammer.
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[05:00]	DaemonFC	In 5 years when Alito, Thomas, and the rest knock down Lawrence and gay sex is illegal in half the country.
[05:01]	DaemonFC	The polie will use Grindr logs to prove you invited someone over for sex and then they'll go to Amazon and pull the video of them arriving at your house for sex.
[05:01]	DaemonFC	Establishing that you made plans and then had them over.
[05:01]	DaemonFC	Even if you shut up and don't say anything after you're under arrest!
[05:01]	DaemonFC	*police
[05:02]	TR News	Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/
[05:02]	DaemonFC	It's too dangerous for me and even if it helps the police solve something, what difference does it make?
[05:02]	DaemonFC	Like if someone goes out and slashes your tires and the police actually catch them with a Ring video, then you're still not getting your tires back.
[05:04]	DaemonFC	How does having a Ring give you your life back as a crime victim? It doesn't. But it can be so useful to the police for putting you in prison.
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[05:04]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], Criminal acts of vandalism are covered by my car insurance.
[05:05]	DaemonFC	I have a very low deductible. 
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	my car insurance is zero
[05:05]	DaemonFC	If someone keeps slashing tires and drilling gas tanks, then my insurance company will owe me a lot of tires and gas tanks.
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	and I need to deal with no paperwo9rd either
[05:05]	schestowitz[TR]	*paperwork
[05:06]	DaemonFC	Some shitdick that goes around stealing gas probably has nothing you can sue them for.
[05:06]	DaemonFC	That's why they're stealing your gas.
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	the insurance company does not compensate you for lost time
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	like repairs
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	back on topic
[05:06]	schestowitz[TR]	i i posted re kde
[05:06]	DaemonFC	Yeah, I loaded it in Gemini.
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[05:07]	DaemonFC	You need to overhaul your site and get rid of the messy formatting and stuff.
[05:07]	schestowitz[TR]	thnaks
[05:07]	DaemonFC	Make it look more like it does in Gemini.
[05:08]	schestowitz[TR]	the the bits below?
[05:08]	DaemonFC	I don't know. It would be cleaner.
[05:09]	DaemonFC	Also, losing the formatting and images and stylesheets and scripts would probably make hosting costs next to nothing.
[05:09]	DaemonFC	"When it comes to managing software packages, GNU/Linux is in some sense better and more robust than what Apple and Microsoft provide. Its also a lot more secure. In some distros its already simplified to the level of app mentality (like Android and iOS)."
[05:10]	DaemonFC	The new GNOME themes lately look more like Material Design on Android.
[05:10]	DaemonFC	And the Software Center has greatly improved.
[05:10]	TR News	Today in #Techrights Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166661
[05:10]	TR Bot	 Today in Techrights | Tux Machines
[05:10]	DaemonFC	In that it's not a huge memory leak that may add a repo and may crash and shit its database like it was up to this point.
[05:10]	schestowitz[TR]	brb
[05:11]	DaemonFC	Looks okay.
[05:14]	DaemonFC	We get to go pick up Mandy's new teeth tomorrow.
[05:14]	DaemonFC	The insurance apparently covered more of it than I thought they were going to.
[05:15]	DaemonFC	I may keep or cancel his cleaning appointment later this year depending on where we are with the annual allowance and just take him over to the college dental clinic if we've overshot our insurance limit on this.
[05:15]	DaemonFC	If all he needs are cleanings starting next year though, I mean, he is insured and probably won't have anymore major stuff going on for a while.
[05:15]	DaemonFC	So might as well go back to the dentist and get something from the insurance.
[05:16]	DaemonFC	All it gets us to if we've overshot our budget is the amount allowed by the plan, which gets a cleaning at the dentist to $74.
[05:16]	DaemonFC	They only charge $15 at the school, so no brainer.
[05:17]	DaemonFC	I have no insurance at all, so most dentists are going to get me for $150-250, depending on if there's X-rays or not.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	I spent all day there letting students seal my teeth last time I had a cleaning.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	Those normally would have been like $60 each and they did 11 of them.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	They didn't charge me because the students needed experience, and the dentist comes by and checks to make sure they did it right.
[05:18]	DaemonFC	Insurance does not cover sealants for adults.
[05:19]	DaemonFC	They don't care if your teeth fall out. If they have to pay for an extraction or filling later, they will, but by that point you might not even be insured with them anymore.
[05:20]	DaemonFC	https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-driver-tesla-toyota-swapped-hybrid-car-lease-tesla-gas-price-2022-6
[05:20]	TR Bot	 Uber Driver Says Leasing Tesla Cheaper Than Fueling Toyota Camry
[05:20]	DaemonFC	$450 a week to lease and charge a Tesla. LOL
[05:21]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], What will be funny is when the economy hits the skids and nobody can afford gas and it comes plummeting back to like $2 a gallon, and she's stuck with this stupid Tesla.
[05:22]	DaemonFC	schestowitz[TR], What the government is not saying is they need the economy to crash for a number of reasons.
[05:23]	DaemonFC	Not the least of which is we're going to run out of oil in the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in a matter of 3-4 months at this rate and there's no guarantee that supplies will be normalized by then. They probably won't.
[05:23]	DaemonFC	So if the economy doesn't go into a recession, we're talking $12 a gallon gas and lines a mile long to get it.
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[06:04]	DaemonFC	I don't see this election going too well for the Democrats.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	I looked at the most recent polling and in Illinois of all places, Governor Pritzker is only 5 points ahead of Darren Bailey.
[06:04]	DaemonFC	It's entirely possible, however unlikely, that we end up with a "Paul Lepage of Illinois" here pretty soon.
[06:05]	DaemonFC	I mean they're blowing it so bad that they're going to trade paint in some "deep blue states".
[06:26]	DaemonFC	https://www.amazon.com/CoreCarbon-Pre-Filter-Designed-Honeywell-Purifier/dp/B07CZ283NH/
[06:26]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[06:26]	DaemonFC	I might get some of these and see if they work. I had a couple Honeywell K Pre-Filters left but now they've gone way up in price.
[06:26]	DaemonFC	Those seem to neutralize the awful smell from the guy down the hall.
[06:27]	DaemonFC	I spent a month shampooing and pouring baking soda on my carpets just to find out it's drifting down the hall and through my door from that guy!
[06:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[06:48]	matey	Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier
[06:48]	matey	uninstalling it has never been closer to impossible
[06:50]	matey	Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier <- thank ibm/microsoft, they control the stack now
[06:50]	matey	theyve always been good at installing things that are painful or difficult to remove 
[06:51]	matey	microsoft: internet edgesplorer
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[06:51]	matey	ibm: yellow patches on clothing
[06:52]	matey	not to mention init malware
[06:56]	matey	If you can successfully get into Lotus Pose, you're not likely to injure your ankles. But most people are not built to naturally drop into the pose because it requires very open hips. Check if your body is ready for Lotus by sitting cross-legged. If your knees don't touch the ground, your hips are not ready.
[06:57]	matey	that would be me
[06:57]	matey	5 Lotus Pose Variations To Prevent Injury - DoYou Lotus is a pose that requires a great deal of hip mobility and when done improperly can strain ankles, knees, and hips to name a few injury-prone areas. Thankfully, there are several alternatives that can keep your hips, knees, ankles happy.
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[07:11]	DaemonFC	Installing Windows software is a nightmare.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	There's actually no official way to do that in Win32.
[07:11]	DaemonFC	That's why there are so many "Installation Framework Vendors.
[07:12]	DaemonFC	And then they all come up with their own scripting and shit, and of course you can write a virus with it, and then antivirus companies have false positives because they don't know if it's malicious or just doing something that looks a little strange.
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[07:45]	TR News	"I watched Jeremys talk at CSS Day 2022" https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/notes-from-in-and-out-of-style/ | Source: Jim Nielsen
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Notes From In And Out Of Style - Jim Nielsens Blog
[07:45]	TR News	"if you have a multi-homed host, a host with multiple interfaces and IP addresses" https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SymmetricAndAsymmetricIPRouting | Source: uni Toronto
[07:45]	TR Bot	 Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/SymmetricAndAsymmetricIPRouting
[07:46]	TR News	"Ive been looking for a way to run containers faster since then" https://jvns.ca/blog/2022/06/28/some-notes-on-bubblewrap/ | Source: Julia Evans
[07:46]	TR Bot	 Notes on running containers with bubblewrap
[07:46]	TR News	"Courtney Allen has published a blog post about how to run a website and blog almost exclusively on things that are in the OpenBSD base system" https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20220629071853 | Source: Undeadly
[07:46]	TR Bot	 (Almost) 0 Dependency Websites with OpenBSD & AsciiDoc
[07:47]	TR News	"A few months ago, a friend of mine mentioned that they still, in the year 2021, used RSS feeds to subscribe to the blogs they liked." https://prose.nsood.in/implementing-rss |
[07:47]	TR Bot	 Implementing RSS for my blog (yes, this one!) Prose
[07:47]	TR News	"I have fallen in love with a recent combination of software to make good looking websites" https://blog.passwordclass.xyz/blogs/2022/06/0-dependency-websites-with-openbsd-asciidoc.html |
[07:47]	TR Bot	 0 Dependency Websites with OpenBSD & AsciiDoc
[07:48]	TR News	Games https://www.howtogeek.com/812246/atari-was-very-very-hard-nolan-bushnell-on-atari-50-years-later/ | Source: HowTo Geek
[07:48]	TR Bot	 Atari Was Very, Very Hard Nolan Bushnell on Atari, 50 Years Later
[07:49]	TR News	"Valve made a change to the specifications of the top two versions of the Steam Deck last month," https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/some-steam-decks-ship-with-an-x2-ssd-instead-of-an-x4-ssd/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:49]	TR Bot	Steam Decks ship with an x2 SSD instead of an x4 SSD | GamingOnLinux
[07:49]	TR News	"AOKZOE will be jumping in the handheld ring with their upcoming AOKZOE A1 AMD Ryzen 7 6800U portable" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/aokzoe-are-the-latest-to-attempt-a-steam-deck-rival-with-the-aokzoe-a1/ | Source: GamingOnLinux
[07:49]	TR Bot	are the latest to attempt a Steam Deck rival with the AOKZOE A1 | GamingOnLinux
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[07:51]	TR News	"the installer recommends we choose a complex password" https://www.tecmint.com/reset-forgotten-root-password-rhel-9/ | Source: TecMint
[07:51]	TR Bot	 How to Change and Reset Forgotten Root Password in RHEL 9
[07:52]	TR News	"GNU Nano is an editor that has a minimal learning curve and hence is widely used for beginner-level guides." https://linuxhandbook.com/cut-copy-paste-nano/ | Source: Linux Handbook
[07:52]	TR Bot	 How to Cut, Copy and Paste Text in Nano editor?
[07:52]	TR News	ICBM telling decision-makers to become clowns (outsourcing the company that pays them the salary!!!) "5 things CIOs should know about cloud service providers" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-shares-get-started-cloud-services | Source: Red Hat Official
[07:52]	TR Bot	 Red Hat Shares Get started with cloud services
[07:53]	TR News	"The software operator is a design pattern." https://ubuntu.com//blog/software-operator-design-pattern-part-4 | Source: Ubuntu
[07:53]	TR Bot	software operator design pattern: advantages part 4 | Ubuntu
[07:53]	TR News	"Teodoras help was the pilot of a new program spearheaded by Daniele, the documentation secondment program." https://ubuntu.com//blog/multipass-documentation-proudly-a-work-in-progress | Source: Ubuntu
[07:54]	TR Bot	documentation: proudly a work in progress | Ubuntu
[07:54]	TR News	"Along with the usual bug fixing, maintenance, and upstream version enablement work" https://ubuntu.com//blog/whats-new-in-charmed-ceph-with-ceph-quincy-on-ubuntu-22-04-lts | Source: Ubuntu
[07:54]	TR Bot	new in Charmed Ceph with Ceph Quincy on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS? | Ubuntu
[07:55]	TR News	"the popular WordPress plugin W3 Total Cache" https://www.rosehosting.com/blog/how-to-configure-w3-total-cache-plugin-with-redis-on-wordpress-website/ | Source: RoseHosting
[07:55]	TR Bot	to Configure W3 Total Cache Plugin with Redis on WordPress website - RoseHosting
[07:55]	TR News	CitHub Copilot is the lovechild of criminals https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/github-copilot-is-still-a-foss-legal:e see http://techrights.org/2022/05/28/rumours-github/
[07:55]	TR Bot	 GitHub Copilot Is Still A FOSS Legal Nightmare
[07:55]	TR Bot	 Microsoft GitHub Expos Part XXI Rumours About How Microsoft Plans to Actually Make Money (Not Losses) From GitHub | Techrights
[07:56]	TR News	iophk: DDoS are enabled by the large botnets of networked Windows systems
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[08:01]	TR News	"Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom does not seem like a happy man right now." https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-not-happy-says-mega-infringement-report-on-the-way-220629/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[08:01]	TR Bot	Dotcom Not Happy, Says 'Mega Mass Piracy Report' is On the Way * TorrentFreak
[08:01]	TR News	"anti-piracy [sic] coalition" https://torrentfreak.com/ace-anti-piracy-alliance-expands-into-asia-to-disrupt-illegal-streaming-220629/ | Source: Torrent Freak
[08:01]	TR Bot	Anti-Piracy Alliance Expands Into Asia to Disrupt Illegal Streaming * TorrentFreak
[08:02]	TR News	"In this blog post, I reverse-engineer a hybrid module that was used for ground-testing" http://www.righto.com/2022/06/x-ray-reverse-engineering-hybrid-module.html | Source: Ken Shirriff
[08:02]	TR Bot	 X-ray reverse-engineering a hybrid module from 1960s Apollo test equipment
[08:03]	TR News	"With the update to version 102, Firefox now automatically strips tracking parameter" https://www.pcworld.com/article/797980/this-new-privacy-feature-in-firefox-strips-tracking-info-from-links.html | Source: PC World
[08:03]	TR Bot	new privacy feature in Firefox strips tracking info from links | PCWorld
[08:04]	TR News	"At some point I realized that some queries were taking a few seconds to produce results, so I started to wonder if a more robust database such as PostgreSQL" https://www.twilio.com/blog/sqlite-postgresql-complicated |
[08:04]	TR Bot	 SQLite or PostgreSQL? It's Complicated!
[08:05]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166662
[08:05]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[08:05]	TR News	Games: Atari at 50 and SteamOS (GNU/Linux) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166663
[08:05]	TR Bot	 Games: Atari at 50 and SteamOS (GNU/Linux) | Tux Machines
[08:06]	TR News	"The moment when someone asks me for how I'm feeling, and then it'll take me serveal minutes to figure out how I'm actually feeling, and to think about if I'm ok to express how I'm fine with expressing for some other minutes." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random3
[08:07]	TR News	Down under: "Only a couple of days after the winter solstice and its still very dark when we get up in the morning, the sun doesn't rise until after 7.30." gemini://apintandaparma.club/~ajft/phlog/2022-06-24.gmi
[08:08]	TR News	These are not the child processes you are looking for. gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/29.1
[08:09]	TR News	Notes on an overheard conversation on who will be driving gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/28.1
[08:09]	TR News	"Firefox [1] was giving me fits. It would work fine except when I quit the application, then it would just sit there consuming over 100% of the CPU (Central Processing Unit) (not hard given I have multiple CPUs on the machine)." gemini://gemini.conman.org/boston/2022/06/27.1
[08:25]	TR News	"Each source in the above diagram represents a single encoder" https://jpieper.com/2022/06/28/flexible-i-o-source-configuration/ | Source: J Pieper
[08:25]	TR Bot	 Flexible I/O: Source configuration | A Modicum of Fun
[08:25]	TR News	"The command set wasn't always well thought out, and then over the years it grew by accretion, with new stuff piled on top of old stuff that couldn't be changed because Backward Compatibility." https://blog.plover.com/prog/git/tips.html | Source: Mark Dominus
[08:25]	TR Bot	 The Universe of Discourse : Things I wish everyone knew about Git (Part I)
[08:30]	TR News	"I think a lot about the lifecycle of websites." https://notebook.wesleyac.com/how-websites-die/ |
[08:30]	TR Bot	 How Websites Die Wesleys Notebook
[08:30]	TR News	"Outrage dividend is the boost in reach that content which elicits strong emotional responses" https://rys.io/en/159.html | Source: Micha Woniak
[08:30]	TR Bot	 The Outrage Dividend | Songs on the Security of Networks
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[08:34]	TR News	"According to The New York Times, some of the employees laid off were involved in human resources" https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/29/23188977/substack-layoffs-14-percent-economy | Source: The Verge
[08:34]	TR Bot	 Substack CEO says hes very sorry about laying off 13 people - The Verge
[08:35]	TR News	[Old] "Im not here to defend him but it appeared to me that he wasnt necessarily looking to attack or hurt his team (I could be wrong) but to stop them from limiting themselves" https://code.likeagirl.io/5-things-steve-jobs-taught-me-7ce4b9adee8 |
[08:35]	TR Bot	 5 Things Steve Jobs Taught Me. Firstly, if you havent already, I | by Serena | Code Like A Girl
[08:36]	TR News	Proprietary software: "Norways public and private sector websites were temporarily down on Wednesday following a cyberattack that targeted the countrys national data network, forcing it to suspend online services for several hours." https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/3541585-norway-hit-with-cyberattack-temporarily-suspending-service/ | Source: The Hill
[08:36]	TR Bot	 Norway hit with cyberattack, temporarily suspending service | The Hill
[08:36]	TR News	"The distributed-denial-of-service (DDOS) attack targeted a secure national data network forcing the temporary suspension of online services for several hours, the Norwegian National Security Authority said." https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-technology-norway-government-and-politics-b837c155fde5d9cb4215b77dff9a94f0 | Source: Associated Press
[08:36]	TR Bot	 Cyberattack hits Norway, pro-Russian hacker group fingered | AP News
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[08:38]	TR News	With Extensions, GNOME Web is Slowly Becoming an Attractive Option on Desktop Linux Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166664
[08:38]	TR Bot	 With Extensions, GNOME Web is Slowly Becoming an Attractive Option on Desktop Linux | Tux Machines
[08:38]	TR News	10 Fun Free and Open Source Action-Adventure Games Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166665
[08:38]	TR Bot	 10 Fun Free and Open Source Action-Adventure Games | Tux Machines
[08:44]	TR News	"Now if I break another YubiKey, or brick my phone" https://earthly.dev/blog/multi-factor-auth/ | Source: Earthly
[08:44]	TR Bot	 Programmatic Multi Factor Auth and Time Based One Time Passwords - Earthly Blog
[08:46]	TR News	"According to the Republican FCC commissioner, TikTok violates policies dictating the app stores of Apple and Google covering user data" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/fcc-commissioner-calls-on-apple-alphabet-to-ban-tiktok-1235174083/ | Source: Hollywood Reporter
[08:46]	TR Bot	 FCC Commissioner Calls On Apple, Alphabet to Ban TikTok The Hollywood Reporter
[08:46]	TR News	"The app is run by ByteDance" https://broadbandbreakfast.com/2022/06/tiktok-data-concerns-broadband-data-collection-system-impact-of-internet-access-on-covid-19-mortality/ | Source: Broadband Breakfast
[08:46]	TR Bot	 TikTok Data Concerns, Broadband Data Collection System, Internet Access on COVID-19 Mortality : Broadband Breakfast
[08:46]	TR News	"This issue is not resolved yet" https://status.torproject.org/issues/2022-06-09-network-ddos/ |
[08:46]	TR Bot	 Network DDoS | Tor Project status
[08:51]	TR News	"An April circular by the Chinese Ministry of Education on student admission criteria at Tibetan universities" https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2022/06/30/2003780834 | Source: Taipei Times
[08:51]	TR Bot	 China destroys education in Tibet - Taipei Times
[08:51]	TR News	"While Chinese-state propaganda says the reason for the move is to get the people away from harsh weather and relatively backward production and living conditions" https://freetibet.org/latest/chinese-government-to-force-more-than-100000-tibetans-out-of-their-homes/ |
[08:51]	TR Bot	 Chinese government to force more than 100,000 Tibetans out of their homes - Free Tibet
[08:52]	TR News	Lithuania https://www.baltictimes.com/lithuania_fixing_cybersecurity_gaps__not_surprised_by_russia_s_hostile_rhetoric___pm/ | Source: The Baltic Times
[08:52]	TR Bot	 Lithuania fixing cybersecurity gaps, not surprised by Russia's hostile rhetoric PM
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[08:57]	TR News	tio is a serial device I/O tool for Linux targeted at embedded developers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166666
[08:57]	TR Bot	 tio is a serial device I/O tool for Linux targeted at embedded developers | Tux Machines
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[09:14]	TR News	"I think what were facing is an instance of the Two-Worlds Problem thats now everywhere in US society." https://danielmiessler.com/blog/the-cybersecurity-skills-gap-is-another-instance-of-late-stage-capitalism/ | Source: Daniel Miessler
[09:14]	TR Bot	 The Cybersecurity Skills Gap is Another Instance of Late-stage Capitalism - Daniel Miessler
[09:14]	TR News	TikTok Misinformation/Disinformation https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/tiktok-abortion-herbs-misinformation-death-1376101/ | Source: Rolling Stone
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Pennyroyal Tea for Abortion Is Going Viral on TikTok. It Could Kill You - Rolling Stone
[09:14]	TR News	Misinformation/Disinformation https://www.teenvogue.com/story/social-media-influencers-climate-change | Source: Teen Vogue
[09:14]	TR Bot	 Social Media Influencers Get Media Attention on Climate Change Grassroots Activists Dont | Teen Vogue
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[09:18]	TR News	Censorship by Zuck and Sandbag https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/facebook-instagram-restricting-abortion-pills-posts-fast-after-roe-end-rcna35834 | Source: NBC
[09:18]	TR Bot	 What Facebook and Instagram's restricting abortion pills posts so fast should tell us
[09:19]	TR News	"He could be seen sharing Tibets history and authentic Tibetan culture with the tourists" https://www.tibetanreview.net/china-jails-tibetan-university-student-for-contact-with-exile-fellows/ | Source: Tibet
[09:19]	TR Bot	 China jails Tibetan university student for contact with exile fellows - Tibetan Review
[09:25]	TR News	"The American Guild of Variety Artists, which is affiliated with the AFL-CIO" https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/medieval-theater-plans-union-vote-pay-safety-concerns-rcna35916 | Source: NBC
[09:25]	TR Bot	 Medieval Times theater plans union vote over pay and safety concerns
[09:26]	TR News	Whistleblowers https://www.projectcensored.org/whistleblowers/ | Source: Project Censored
[09:26]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/whistleblowers/ )
[09:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
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[09:59]	TR News	OpenLibrary https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/enjoy-digital-ownership-and-public-libraries-while-you-still-can/ | Source: Techdirt
[09:59]	TR Bot	Digital Ownership And Public Libraries While You Still Can | Techdirt
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[10:06]	TR News	As June ends (last day today) lets examine the rapid demise of Windows in Russia, even before the exodus media speaks of this week (an ongoing story) http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/microsoft-windows-russia/
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Microsoft Windows Market Share in Russia in 2022: Down From 55% to 50% in 5 Months | Techrights
[10:06]	TR News	Benot Battistelli and Antnio Campinos arent just a dark era for the EPO; they might in fact be the end of the EPO, having made corruption the new normal or new ways of working http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-kakistocracy-examples/
[10:06]	TR Bot	 European Patent Office is a Kakistocracy Illustrated | Techrights
[10:06]	TR News	Avoiding long periods of sitting down is important for ones health, especially in sedentary lifestyles or jobs http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/sitting-down-less/
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Sitting Down Less | Techrights
[10:06]	TR News	GNU/Linux is easy to use and extend; the above demonstrates how new software gets installed, removed, and updated in KDE Neon http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/installing-software-in-gnu-linux/
[10:06]	TR Bot	 Its 2022 and Installing Software in GNU/Linux Has Never Been Easier | Techrights
[10:06]	TR News	Wednesday proved that the EPO actively guards corruption and protects Team Battistelli from scrutiny; instead of standing for patent law the EPO under Antnio Campinos stands for overt violations of the law; national delegates are fine with it as long as they're personally rewarded for complicity http://techrights.org/2022/06/29/epo-rewards-for-complicity/
[10:06]	TR Bot	 [Meme] EPO Rewarding Corruption Instead of Upholding the Law and Protecting the European Patent Convention (EPC) | Techrights
[10:07]	TR News	IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/irc-log-290622/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/irc-log-290622/
[10:07]	TR Bot	 IRC Proceedings: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 | Techrights
[10:24]	TR News	Point Crawl gemini://idiomdrottning.org/point-crawl
[10:34]	TR News	JCPA https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/06/journalism-competition-and-preservation-act-will-produce-neither-competition-nor | Source: EFF
[10:34]	TR Bot	 The Journalism Competition and Preservation Act Will Produce Neither Competition Nor Preservation | Electronic Frontier Foundation
[10:35]	TR News	Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/29/trump_raged_secret_service_january_6 | Source: Democracy Now
[10:35]	TR Bot	 Jan. 6 Bombshell: Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent, Demanded to Join Mob at Capitol | Democracy Now!
[10:37]	TR News	Bear in mind Pro Publica bagged bribes from the world's biggest polluter, Bill Gates https://www.propublica.org/article/generators-carbon-monoxide-deaths-congress-investigation
[10:37]	TR Bot	 Congress Investigates Portable Generator Manufacturers Following Carbon Monoxide Deaths ProPublica
[10:40]	TR News	Clarence Thomas https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/clarence-thomas-really-wants-to-make-it-easier-for-the-powerful-to-sue-people-for-criticizing-them/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:40]	TR Bot	Thomas REALLY Wants To Make It Easier For The Powerful To Sue People For Criticizing Them | Techdirt
[10:41]	TR News	NSO Group https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/nso-lawyer-tells-lawmakers-company-can-count-to-five-will-need-more-time-to-count-higher-than-that/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:41]	TR Bot	Lawyer Tells Lawmakers Company Can Count To Five, Will Need More Time To Count Higher Than That | Techdirt
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[10:48]	TR News	GPS https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/a-gps-frequency-standard-for-when-the-timing-has-to-be-right/ | Source: Hackaday
[10:48]	TR Bot	GPS Frequency Standard For When The Timing Has To Be Right | Hackaday
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[10:49]	TR News	Zuck and Sandbag against women https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/facebook-bans-people-for-simply-saying-abortion-pills-exist/ | Source: Techdirt
[10:49]	TR Bot	Bans People For Simply Saying Abortion Pills Exist | Techdirt
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[11:00]	TR News	"Both environments are not the most welcoming, but there are plenty of tools from the community to help parsing them. In this post Ill talk about b4, suggested by my GSOC mentor Andr, a tool to help with applying patches." https://tales-aparecida.github.io/tales-tips-and-tricks/posts/dri-devel/gsoc-report-4/
[11:00]	TR Bot	 Tales Tips and Tricks
[11:02]	TR News	"Recently Ive heard from a friend that his professor simply doesnt believe that free software should be profitable, so Im making this blog post." https://crosscat.me/real-contributions-with-real-money/ Gulag does nor sponsor Free software, it spies on billions of people while bribing some geeks to keep quiet about it
[11:02]	TR Bot	 Real contributions with real money
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[11:08]	TR News	What Makes TMC2208 Stepper Motor Drivers Silent - The DIY Life https://www.the-diy-life.com/what-makes-tmc2208-stepper-motor-drivers-silent/ Source: the-diy-life
[11:08]	TR Bot	 What Makes TMC2208 Stepper Motor Drivers Silent - The DIY Life
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[11:22]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/252721
[11:22]	TR Bot	 Gazprom stock collapses
[11:22]	XRevan86	https://theins.press/en/news/252724
[11:22]	TR Bot	 Russia leaves Snake Island allegedly as gesture of goodwill following Ukrainian strike
[11:25]	XRevan86	https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/30/russia-doesnt-strike-any-civilian-targets-putin-comments-on-missile-strike-on-shopping-centre-in-ukraines-kremenchuk-news "Russia doesnt strike any civilian targets: Putin comments on missile strike on shopping centre in Ukraines Kremenchuk"
[11:25]	TR Bot	 . 
[11:25]	XRevan86	I mentioned this yesterday, but this is actually translated.
[11:28]	XRevan86	https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1542373089111064576
[11:28]	TR Bot	 Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile on Russian state TV: bringing you another report from behind the looking glass. The most deluded pundit, Professor Avatkov explained key differences between Russia & the West: Russia is all about peace and cooperation, while the West is all about war. Watch it and weep:"|nitter
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[11:36]	DaemonFC	schestowitz, I've been talking to RMS about Roe and gun control.
[11:36]	DaemonFC	I described how hellish Illinois is with the crime and how broken the FOID system is and how dangerous it actually is here compared to Indiana.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	He's under the impression that crime is lower in states with more gun control laws.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	Here's part of my latest reply:
[11:37]	DaemonFC	"As far as gun control again for a moment, and Illinois, and FOID... I never said I disagreed totally with gun control, but it has to make sense. First of all, a law that contradicts itself, is impossible to comply with, and is unreasonably vague is already unconstitutional with or without the Second Amendment. The FOID law is so bad that throwing it out is the only way to hit the hard reset and force the state legislature to try again. If it's 
[11:37]	DaemonFC	allowed to stand, they have no reason to fix it. If they were going to, they would have sometime between 1968 and now.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	Existing case law basically says that the politicians can't create a law that is any of these things because at that point, it's unclear what is even prohibited, and anyone at all can be charged with a crime for the most innocuous behavior.
[11:37]	DaemonFC	As far as how well FOID is working, well, it isn't.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	There are over 60,000 guns that should have been surrendered to the police and over 20,000 revoked FOID cards that are still floating around out there. You can't do anything involving the cards if they revoke them because you can't get a transfer authorization number with a revoked card, but over 60,000 guns that they don't know what happened to is a little bit of a problem, and those are just the ones that were in the FOID system to begin 
[11:38]	DaemonFC	with, not accounting for trunk loads of guns brought into the state in cars over the years and sold on the streets that were never in the FOID system that the state knows nothing about. They also banned 3d printed "ghost" guns, but the DEFCAD files are still out there and still shared, and they really can't do anything except punish the ones they catch.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	So even if they started enforcing FOID and raised a magical force field around the entire state of Illinois this very minute which caused all new guns being smuggled into the state to be vaporized, for the sake of argument.... What then? They'd still have people being shot and illegal guns being recovered at crime scenes for the next thousand years.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	As far as Illinois having less crime than states with looser gun laws, that's a joke. I moved here from Indiana and the first time I was a victim of a "gun crime" was two weeks in when I was mugged in Chicago. Shootings and perverts in Chicago are so rampant that between the two, nobody will let their children play in the public parks. There is absolutely nothing like this going in in the vast majority of Indiana, and if there is something like 
[11:38]	DaemonFC	this going on, it's in the Chicago spillover area.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	When I lived in Indiana, I didn't have to lock my doors and windows, really. I'd go out walking late at night with cash in my pockets because nothing would happen. Shootings and murders were almost unheard of. The town I lived in most recently in Indiana had something like 20 years with no murders I've heard about, which was only broken recently when a man from Illinois with a knife drove there and stabbed and killed a family of four.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	And unlike the Chicago police, the police in Indiana got him, and unlike in Illinois, he will be remanded and go to prison.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	The moment a Felony Agg UUW isn't a possibility anymore due to the events I described in my last email, I intend to buy a gun for the apartment. We don't live in the best neighborhood. The landlord evicts people for not paying their rent, they come back and sabotage the building, You come home with the groceries, and you can't go in because the "Gang Police" are out here with full tactical gear and bullpup rifles serving a warrant. You can 
[11:38]	DaemonFC	really only arm yourself and hope the day never comes. During the riots, our neighborhood got torn up pretty badly. I was just hoping they didn't torch MY car. What did I ever do to those losers? Nothing. That's what.
[11:38]	DaemonFC	Again, Illinois is not safer than Indiana. It's just an illusion supported by propaganda and wishful thinking."
[11:39]	DaemonFC	They made me sell the last one and file a "Firearm Disposition Record".
[11:39]	DaemonFC	With 48 hours notice.
[11:39]	DaemonFC	This is fucking nuts.
[11:39]	DaemonFC	You can have a gun! 
[11:40]	DaemonFC	You can't!
[11:40]	DaemonFC	Okay now you can!
[11:41]	DaemonFC	Luckily prices on guns are up.
[11:41]	DaemonFC	If you hold onto one for a while you can usually sell it for a lot more than you paid.
[11:41]	DaemonFC	Demand is red hot right now, especially with all of the stuff going on.
[11:42]	DaemonFC	Illinois has topped the states with the most legal gun sales for the past two and a half years.
[11:42]	DaemonFC	People here suddenly realized a few things.
[11:42]	DaemonFC	Including that the criminals have them and the government here doesn't do much about the criminals.
[11:45]	TR News	coexist with HEY HI gemini://xoc3.io/blog/2022-06-30
[11:53]	DaemonFC	https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1108852884/pete-buttigieg-launches-1b-pilot-to-build-racial-equity-in-americas-roads
[11:53]	TR Bot	 Buttigieg launches $1B pilot to build racial equity in roads : NPR
[11:53]	DaemonFC	Pete Buttfuck is back to spend money on "racial equality in roads".
[11:53]	DaemonFC	His last hit was "If you can't afford a gallon of gasoline for your clunker, just buy an EV.".
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[12:00]	TR News	G7 https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/29/g7-and-the-desperation-stage-of-russian-sanctions/ | Source: Counter Punch
[12:00]	TR Bot	and the Desperation Stage of Russian Sanctions - CounterPunch.org
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[12:03]	XRevan86	Russian Ministry of Special Military Operation stated that leaving Snake Island is a gesture of good will (just like leaving Kyiv oblast' in March), definitely nothing to do with Ukraine getting long-distance weaponry such as M142 HIMARS.
[12:04]	XRevan86	https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/30/a78153
[12:04]	TR Bot	 Chinas Honor Smartphone Maker Halts Russia Shipments Vedomosti - The Moscow Times
[12:05]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Pico W: your $6 IoT platform - Raspberry Pi https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/raspberry-pi-pico-w-your-6-iot-platform/ Source: raspberrypi
[12:05]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Pico W: your $6 IoT platform - Raspberry Pi
[12:06]	TR News	All Aboard the mikroBUS https://www.sparkfun.com/news/4794
[12:06]	TR Bot	Aboard the mikroBUS - News - SparkFun Electronics
[12:07]	TR News	Raspberry Pi Pico W Review: Built-in Wi-Fi Comes to Pico https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/raspberry-pi-pico-w
[12:07]	TR Bot	 Raspberry Pi Pico W Review: Built-in Wi-Fi Comes to Pico | Tom's Hardware
[12:08]	TR News	Pine64 Teases RISC-V Based Raspberry Pi Alternative https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pine64-risc-v-sbc-raspberry-pi-alternative
[12:08]	TR Bot	 Pine64 Teases RISC-V Based Raspberry Pi Alternative | Tom's Hardware
[12:09]	matey	one of the things i dont get about roy is that he says systemd is a problem
[12:09]	matey	but anytime someone wants to fix it he says it shouldnt be "our" top priority (because we all have the same priorities obviously)
[12:10]	matey	he knows ibm is a problem, he also realises systemd gives them a major foothold
[12:10]	matey	its been the better part of a decade, and im still wondering what "OUR" top priority is supposed to be
[12:10]	matey	i dont believe there is one, funnily enough
[12:10]	matey	"we" should fight against the takeover of free software. imo.
[12:11]	matey	systemd is a prominent example of that
[12:11]	DaemonFC	It basically works I suppose. I mean, I pretty much ignore it.
[12:11]	matey	so is ibms (again ibm) takeover of gcc, which roy remains in the dark about
[12:11]	matey	they move to own and control it (synonymous anyway-- if you control it...)
[12:11]	DaemonFC	The biggest problem with systemd is that it's bloated and springs a lot of security problems.
[12:11]	DaemonFC	It's so badly written in a rush that nobody bothers to go find any of the bugs and fix them.
[12:11]	matey	github of course, is another one. but the approach to github seems to be the same
[12:12]	matey	dont do anything, just wait for people to stop using it
[12:12]	DaemonFC	And those bugs make it into alleged "enterprise" distributions.
[12:12]	matey	just wait another year for systemd to get fixed
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[12:12]	matey	theres no serious evaluation of ANY of the efforts to remove systemd
[12:12]	matey	only a handwave
[12:12]	matey	it must be REALLY unimportant
[12:12]	matey	not just "not our top priority", which i think is a euphamism for "dont bother doing anything at all"
[12:13]	matey	which is the "solution" thats been promoted for 7 or more years: dont bother
[12:13]	TR News	390 - This is the Way(land) - mintCast https://mintcast.org/2022/06/29/390-this-is-the-wayland/ Source: mintcast
[12:13]	TR Bot	 390 This is the Way(land) mintCast
[12:13]	matey	fires burn themselves out. that said, if you call the fire dept, sometimes they can minimise the damage done
[12:13]	matey	roys solution to the biggest problems in free software always seems to be "itll be burn out on its own"
[12:13]	TR News	BSD Now 461: Persistent Memory Allocation https://www.bsdnow.tv/461 "Q1 FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report 2022, Nginx on OpenBSD 7.1, Persistent Memory Allocation, Colorize your BSD shell, cgit With Gitolite and Nginx on FreeBSD 13, and more"
[12:13]	TR Bot	 BSD Now 461: Persistent Memory Allocation
[12:14]	matey	yeah, but itll take the whole goddamned forest with it-- and perhaps even neighbouring cities, like weve seen with wildfires
[12:14]	matey	so the fact that "ill burn itself out" is really an incredibly disastrous attitude to have towards crises
[12:15]	matey	its the one techrights always (indirectly) proposes towards the worst things in free software today:
[12:15]	matey	the coup. github. gcc. systemd
[12:15]	DaemonFC	Novell was never really as viable as IBM.
[12:15]	matey	it should be called sit-on-your-fat-arserights
[12:15]	DaemonFC	They did the Novell-Microsoft deal as a way to raise cash they needed for daily operations.
[12:15]	matey	the only important thing is telling people something is wrong
[12:15]	matey	and then when they try to fix it, tell them not to bother
[12:16]	matey	tell them whats wrong, and then...
[12:16]	matey	downplay whats wrong by saying its not important enough to be proactive about
[12:16]	matey	pretending theres some "more important" thing we could be doing-- which seems to be nothing more than
[12:16]	TR News	LinuxHint going in a bad direction: many articles completely unrelated to GNU/Linux, some even for Microsoft stuff
[12:16]	matey	"install incresingly fucked up software and just wait for it to magically improve"
[12:17]	matey	well, no thank you. that wasnt good enough in 2014 and it isnt good enough now.
[12:17]	matey	and for most people the point of knowing whats wrong is in the hopes that someone TRIES to fix it
[12:17]	matey	rather than be told "this isnt a priority"
[12:17]	sp1n	certainly, it magically got only this in the last decade: worse and worse and much worse
[12:17]	matey	we dont even have to say "#1 priority" because thats not what it means
[12:18]	matey	it MEANS "not a priority AT ALL"
[12:18]	matey	if it were a priority at all, every person who intended to try to fix it wouldnt be told "eh, its not SO IMPORTANT"
[12:18]	sp1n	what are the priorities?
[12:18]	matey	but install kde and hope for the best
[12:18]	matey	"what if i want to run a server"
[12:18]	matey	"you can use kde on a server!"
[12:19]	matey	"what if i DONT want systemd?"
[12:19]	sp1n	matey: what are the priorities then?
[12:19]	matey	"i dont think we will have systemd forever"
[12:19]	TR News	Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Ardunio, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166667
[12:19]	TR Bot	 Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Ardunio, and More | Tux Machines
[12:19]	matey	well no, eventually the sun will explode and destroy whats left of the planet
[12:20]	matey	so we can be pretty sure we wont have systemd "forever" unless we move to another star system
[12:20]	TR News	Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, mintCast, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166668
[12:20]	TR Bot	 Audiocasts/Shows: BSD Now, mintCast, and The Linux Link Tech Show (TLLTS) | Tux Machines
[12:20]	sp1n	which would it be, the most urgent _technical_ issue of free software?
[12:20]	matey	someone should have explained this to stallman when he started talking about standing up to non-free software
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[12:21]	matey	richard, baby, non-free software will be destroyed when the sun engulfs the earth, if not sooner!
[12:21]	matey	i dont think this needs to be our top priority!
[12:21]	matey	of course that would be an idiotic response to the idea of free software
[12:21]	matey	but then thats my point
[12:22]	matey	the fsf doesnt stand up to non-free software anymore
[12:22]	matey	it isnt THEIR top priority either, but that doesnt mean it shouldnt be ours
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[12:22]	stupidor	matey: which would it be, the most urgent _technical_ issue of free software?
[12:23]	matey	stupidor <- shoving guns into nazis mouths and pulling the trigger
[12:23]	matey	then after that, removing systemd
[12:23]	matey	/me removes another spambot
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[12:24]	matey	nazi spambots are the product of OUTSTANDING german engineering
[12:25]	matey	 :)  i can actually move to a whitelist, if this inbred krout doesnt get a clue
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[12:27]	stupidor	don't worry, i keep logfiles save and secure to refresh my memories whenever necessary
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[12:27]	stupidor	defamation and threats of violence are a severe criminal offense
[12:28]	matey	if we end up at war with nazis again it will be the same as before
[12:29]	matey	theyll make progress, overreach, fail to hold what they capture, and get decimated 
[12:29]	matey	theyre a one-trick fighting force, trying to rule the world against its will
[12:29]	matey	the world will always stomp them to death, and good fucking riddance
[12:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[12:30]	matey	bring on the swinewaffen und sheissewaffen
[12:30]	matey	fuck them all
[12:31]	stupidor	so, this is the most urgent technical issue of free software, according to matey
[12:32]	TR News	"Like todays Intel-AMD duopoly, the market for home computer CPUs in the 1970s and 80s was dominated by two players: Zilog with their Z80" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/hackaday-prize-2022-the-baffatari-2600-adds-atari-compatibility-to-retrocomputers/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:32]	TR Bot	Prize 2022: The Baffatari 2600 Adds Atari Compatibility To Retrocomputers | Hackaday
[12:32]	matey	they didnt hang enough of them at nuremberg
[12:33]	TR News	STM32 https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/bare-metal-stm32-adding-an-analog-touch-with-adcs/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:33]	TR Bot	STM32: Adding An Analog Touch With ADCs | Hackaday
[12:33]	matey	next time theyll be lined up against the wall like fish in a barrel
[12:34]	matey	no more ceremonies, just Your Turn! BANG!
[12:34]	matey	thump
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR]	donald thump
[12:37]	schestowitz[TR]	<techrights-news> Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent https://www.democracynow.org/2022/6/29/trump_raged_secret_service_january_6 | Source: Democracy Now
[12:37]	TR Bot	 Jan. 6 Bombshell: Trump Physically Attacked Secret Service Agent, Demanded to Join Mob at Capitol | Democracy Now!
[12:37]	matey	we dont even need term limits
[12:38]	matey	bad leaders die of old age eventually
[12:38]	matey	they dont need to be our #1 priority
[12:38]	MinceR	we don't need term limits, we need anarchism
[12:38]	TR News	On inflation https://scheerpost.com/2022/06/29/video-ask-prof-wolff-what-the-nytimes-gets-wrong-about-inflation/ | Source: Scheerpost
[12:38]	TR Bot	Ask Prof Wolff: What the NYTimes Gets Wrong About Inflation scheerpost.com
[12:38]	matey	anarchism is really the ultimate term limit
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[12:38]	matey	you get 0 days! 
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[12:39]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-17-22-7.jpg
[12:41]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166669
[12:41]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[12:43]	TR News	Social control media is a bubble https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/trumps-truth-social-big-payday-may-be-falling-apart/ | Source: Techdirt
[12:44]	TR Bot	Truth Social Big Payday May Be Falling Apart | Techdirt
[12:44]	psydroid2	https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/culture-shrink/202005/how-america-fell-toxic-individualism
[12:44]	TR Bot	 How America Fell into Toxic Individualism | Psychology Today
[12:44]	matey	psychologytoday is a piece of shit
[12:44]	matey	they compare autistic kids to dogs
[12:45]	MinceR	dogs, humans... what's the difference?
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR]	who does this insult, the kids?
[12:45]	matey	toxic-individualism <- blame the people for a corrupt leadership
[12:45]	schestowitz[TR]	MinceR: when humans act more like dogs, many problems will go away
[12:46]	MinceR	not really
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	individualism is good
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	"Toxic" is essubjective
[12:46]	MinceR	maybe the pointless destructiveness will be less hidden
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	some people will call you "toxic"
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	that's subjective
[12:46]	MinceR	there's nothing individualist about what corrupted pack animals do
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	like "toxic masculinity"
[12:46]	MinceR	yeah, SJWs call everyone they don't agree with "toxic"
[12:46]	MinceR	who cares?
[12:46]	schestowitz[TR]	as if manly behaviour is toxicity
[12:46]	matey	 some people will call you "toxic" <- its easier to write than "problematic"
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	and men should start acting like women or seomthing
[12:47]	schestowitz[TR]	what a "toxic" channel
[12:47]	matey	/me considers "toxic masculinity" more an overpronounced fear of anything remotely feminine, but its not universal among men and i fucking hate the term anyway
[12:49]	matey	its a term that lends itself readily to worse (dumber) overgeneralisations
[12:49]	matey	even if it was more specific to begin with
[12:49]	matey	(if)
[12:50]		*schestowitz[TR] is now known as nastywomantoxicman
[12:51]	psydroid2	I never see "toxic" mentioned outside of the US sphere of culture, but maybe I'm not paying attention
[12:52]	matey	its because americans dont care much about actual pollution
[12:52]	matey	so they look for proxy forms of it to poke at with a stick
[12:52]	matey	/me made it up but it sounds plausible
[12:53]	TR News	"How can a few grams of battery, geared motor, and some nifty materials get a jumping robot over 30 meters into the air?" https://hackaday.com/2022/06/29/record-setting-jumper-tosses-biomimicry-out-the-window/ | Source: Hackaday
[12:53]	TR Bot	Jumper Tosses Biomimicry Out The Window | Hackaday
[12:55]	matey	you could also throw in psychopathy but im against formally gendering such things
[12:55]	matey	psychopathy isnt a gender trait
[12:55]	matey	informally gendering such things is going to happen "women are crazy" "men  are dicks"
[12:56]	matey	when it tries to make its way into the dsm and the icd then its an issue
[12:56]	matey	they should just call it "male hysteria" then its fair play
[12:57]	matey	plus theres a wonderful cure
[12:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
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[13:02]	matey	toxicity is a thing of course
[13:02]	matey	its an anything-goes way to refer to people with serious personality disorders
[13:02]	MinceR	it's also a map for xonotic
[13:02]	matey	if people talked about actual personality disorders that would probably be more useful
[13:03]	matey	but its harder to start a mob that way
[13:03]	MinceR	the way people do it, it's usually not useful at all
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[13:03]	TR News	Emacs Basics gemini://idiomdrottning.org/emacs-basics
[13:03]	matey	mobs are rarely useful, at least in the sense that they are used by the mob itself
[13:03]	matey	theyre great for destroying nice things we used to have
[13:03]	schestowitz	Emacs Basics  gemini://idiomdrottning.org/emacs-basics
[13:04]	MinceR	e.g. someone with no relevant knowledge randomly diagnosing someone with something over text only chat
[13:04]	schestowitz	"Whenever someone uses the term "trickle-down" in a performative (usually economic) sense it invokes a feeling of warm apathy, like a high profile politician promising the passive benefits of his high nutrient diet as he smiles and pisses against your leg.
[13:04]	schestowitz	"  gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1049
[13:04]	matey	i dont want to make it sound like i think every riot is necessarily the worst thing that could happen
[13:04]	matey	but a mob has no idea wtf its doing
[13:04]	MinceR	humans generally have no idea what they're doing
[13:04]	MinceR	that's why human society "works" the way it does
[13:04]	matey	"Whenever someone uses the term "trickle-down" in a performative (usually economic) sense it invokes a feeling of warm apathy, like a high profile politician promising the passive benefits of his high nutrient diet as he smiles and pisses against your leg."
[13:05]	matey	trickledown systemd
[13:05]	MinceR	that's more of a force-feeding situation
[13:05]	matey	i was thinking about the solution though
[13:05]	MinceR	"we will make you use systemd and you will love it!"
[13:05]	matey	and how it will trickledown eventually
[13:05]	MinceR	the solution is extinction
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[13:06]	matey	systemd-bohicad
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[13:06]	TR News	Learning gemini://freeshell.de/gemlog/2022-06-30_Learning.gmi
[13:10]	TR News	"The world can be an awful, horrible place. Lately, it feels like, in America, things are only getting more difficult." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/how-the-internet-enabled-a-mariners-fan-and-doordash-driver-to-connect-and-do-something-cool/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:10]	TR Bot	The Internet Enabled A Mariners Fan And DoorDash Driver To Connect And Do Something Cool | Techdirt
[13:11]	TR News	"The terrible, awful, no good, horrible plans to regulate the internet keep coming faster and furiouser these days." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/29/please-take-a-moment-to-celebrate-how-a-very-different-supreme-court-saved-the-internet-25-years-ago/ | Source: Techdirt
[13:11]	TR Bot	Take A Moment To Celebrate How A Very Different Supreme Court Saved The Internet 25 Years Ago | Techdirt
[13:12]	stupidor	the systemd problem is easily solved
[13:12]	stupidor	what's impossible to repair is the wrongoing of FSF/GNU with: GCC
[13:12]	stupidor	wrongdoing of FSF/GNU
[13:20]	DaemonFC	<matey> bring on the swinewaffen und sheissewaffen
[13:20]	DaemonFC	I need my glasses.
[13:20]	DaemonFC	I read that as swine waffle.
[13:20]	DaemonFC	That's my favorite thing at Dennys! How did you know?
[13:25]	TR News	Links 30/06/2022: Pine64 Has RISC-V-Based Raspberry Pi Rival, Pico W Introduced | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/pico-w-introduced/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/pico-w-introduced/
[13:25]	TR Bot	 Links 30/06/2022: Pine64 Has RISC-V-Based Raspberry Pi Rival, Pico W Introduced | Techrights
[13:26]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166670
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[13:26]	TR News	Programming Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166671
[13:26]	TR Bot	 Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines
[13:26]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166672
[13:26]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166672
[13:26]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[13:27]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166672
[13:28]		*toxictoxicity is now known as schestowitz[TR]
[13:28]	psydroid2	toxic swine waffles
[13:28]	psydroid2	https://eeb.org/the-great-detox-largest-ever-ban-of-toxic-chemicals-announced-by-eu/
[13:28]	TR Bot	 The great detox - largest ever ban of toxic chemicals announced by EU
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[13:30]	MinceR	blue waffles
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[13:31]	matey	debian is kind of the trickle down distro (or pistro if you like)
[13:32]	matey	whenever they do to destroy it trickles downstream
[13:32]	TR News	"Id like to thank Beelink for providing the MINI S for review." 'Reviews'... for gifts... pushing WINDOWS (malware) machines as "Linux". "The Beelink MINI S came installed with a licensed copy of Windows 11 Pro" https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/06/30/beelink-mini-s-review-low-cost-mini-pc-ubuntu-22-04-windows-11/
[13:32]	TR Bot	 Beelink MINI S Review - A Low-cost mini PC tested with Ubuntu 22.04 and Windows 11 - CNX Software
[13:32]	matey	or it starts as a trickle, then it sort of comes in large painful gushes
[13:32]	matey	or diarrhebian
[13:33]	matey	if it was still just a trickle, it wouldnt be so much for devuan to mop up
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[13:34]	matey	https://eeb.org/the-great-detox-largest-ever-ban-of-toxic-chemicals <- first its the chemicals, then theyll ban masculinity
[13:34]	matey	id think that was an overreaction, but they already force you to register pointed sticks
[13:35]	psydroid2	they need push Windows because of what is happening in the market
[13:35]	psydroid2	https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/337500-asus-gigabyte-project-weaker-sales-as-gpu-bundles-no-longer-possible
[13:35]	TR Bot	Gigabyte Project Weaker Sales as Consumers Reject GPU Bundles - ExtremeTech
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[13:35]	psydroid2	25% fewer sales than last year
[13:35]	psydroid2	lol
[13:36]	psydroid2	all toxicity must be outlawed and then we'll have perfect societies
[13:37]	MinceR	have they banned DHMO and E948 yet?
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[13:37]	matey	"pointed sticks may be no longer than 20cm in length and 8mm in diametre"
[13:37]	TR News	With help from Microsoft operatives in ZDNet (Tung), anti-Linux FUD is being broadcast and the issue isn't Linux itself but some malware http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34194
[13:37]	TR Bot	 Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
[13:37]	matey	have they banned DHMO <- no but it IS a controlled substance
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[13:39]	matey	weaker-sales-as-gpu-bundles-no-longer-possible <- why arent gpu bundles possible?
[13:40]	matey	<MinceR> have they banned DHMO and E948 yet? <- a blacklist is really the wrong approach anyway
[13:40]	TR News	Microsoft FUD against Linux again http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166638#comment-34195
[13:40]	TR Bot	 Microsofters Deflecting (From Microsoft's Security Woes to "Linux") | Tux Machines
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[13:41]	matey	spain is going to start with a whitelist that only allows organic beets in the first year
[13:41]	matey	if youre hungry, eat some beets
[13:41]	TR News	Microsoft hates Linux. Anything else is a lie. There's evidence of that, too.
[13:41]	MinceR	organic beets contain DHMO
[13:41]	MinceR	and most likely they also contain ethanol and methanol
[13:41]	MinceR	and inorganic beets don't exist
[13:41]	matey	theyre working on a process to remove all those 
[13:42]	matey	so i think powdered organic beets are going to be huge pretty soon
[13:43]	psydroid2	they were bundling GPUs with motherboards and even whole systems as a vendor lock-in measure, because GPUs were scarce and very expensive
[13:44]	psydroid2	now they can't get away with that anymore and people don't buy things they don't need or already bought during the first two years of the pandemic
[13:44]	matey	a group calling themselves "friends of toxicity" has asked the government if theyre going to ban the earth itself, because it actually contains a shitload of toxins
[13:45]	matey	theres been no word about the construction of a government building / military base on luna.
[13:45]	TR News	EPC is routinely violated by the EPO, so it has just pushed this "UPDATE" on the thing it is VIOLATING https://www.epo.org/law-practice/legal-texts/national-law.html
[13:45]	TR Bot	 EPO - National law relating to the EPC
[13:45]	matey	ultimately they may have to ban the universe itself based on the number of unbreatheable gasses and heavy metals
[13:46]	matey	but we can just make a new one, so theres no problem there
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[13:47]	matey	presumably the new ban means inspection checkpoints outside of stores, homes and restaurants
[13:47]	matey	otherwise it will be too easy to get around
[13:48]	matey	some people might think it excessive to have customers officers outside their own home
[13:48]	matey	customs
[13:48]	matey	but this is the price we pay for a cleaner world
[13:49]	matey	no word if ibm is going to relinquish its stockpile of zyklon b
[13:49]	stupidor	schestowitz: 
[13:50]	stupidor	if anyone wonders why i'll leave
[13:50]	matey	herr doktor isnt interested, he said he wants nothing to do with it because it now also contains zyklon c++
[13:50]	matey	which is a stupider, less effective form of the poison
[13:51]	matey	also now the canisters weigh 5 times as much
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[13:53]	TR News	Thunderbird 102: A compelling facelift http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166599#comment-34196
[13:53]	TR Bot	 Mozilla Thunderbird 102 Released with New Address Book, Import/Export Wizard | Tux Machines
[13:53]	MinceR	the moon probably also contains a shitload of toxins
[13:54]	TR News	Why not Facebook and LinkedIn (Microsoft) as well? https://www.maketecheasier.com/fcc-tiktok-ban-apple-google/
[13:54]	TR Bot	 FCC Urges Apple and Google to Ban TikTok as Security Threat - Make Tech Easier
[13:55]	TR News	Vim 9.0 is Available on Arch Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34197
[13:55]	TR Bot	 Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	toxic https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/29/toxic_interaction_github_open_source/
[13:56]	TR Bot	 'Toxic' open source GitHub discussions analyzed in study The Register
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	"/toxic_interaction_github_open_source/"
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	Micerosoft
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	is toxic
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	it's also criminal
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	crimes OK
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	don't be "toxic" though
[13:56]	schestowitz[TR]	do it with "sty;e"
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR]	IBM: profits from death camps
[13:57]	schestowitz[TR]	moans about some comments about IBM being "toxic"
[13:57]	TR News	WTF? https://linuxhint.com/how-to-mount-a-laptop-to-a-wall/
[13:57]	TR Bot	 How to Mount a Laptop to a Wall
[13:58]	matey	if only there was a solution to these corporations taking over
[13:59]	matey	other than just waiting for them to die over several decades
● Jun 30
[14:00]	psydroid2	such as intoxicating them?
[14:00]	matey	 IBM: profits from death camps <- moans about some comments about IBM being "toxic" <- pychopaths have zero empathy, none, but theyre also full of themselves and cant tolerate people questioning their supreme nature
[14:01]	matey	such as intoxicating them? <- thats a very russian solution
[14:01]	matey	it probably worked on stalin though
[14:01]	matey	"well, hes dead"
[14:02]	TR News	[PULL] drm-intel-gt-next https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2022-June/362063.html Source: kernel
[14:02]	TR Bot	 [PULL] drm-intel-gt-next
[14:03]	matey	on the one hand, theres so much progress that can come out of unions "taking over" the running of these companies
[14:03]	matey	theres a lot of progress being made-- real progress, even
[14:03]	TR News	CIC orders MeitY to respond to IFF's RTI seeking information on Non-Personal Data Governance Framework Policy-Process https://internetfreedom.in/cic-orders-meity-to-respond-to-iffs-rti-seeking-information-on-non-personal-data-governance-framework-policy-process/
[14:03]	TR Bot	 CIC orders MeitY to respond to IFF's RTI seeking information on Non-Personal Data Governance Framework Policy-Process
[14:03]	matey	slowly, but not in a bullshit way
[14:03]	matey	of course theres always bullshit. and once you account for that, whatever is left over is not-bullshit
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[14:04]	matey	brb
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[14:04]	schestowitz[TR]	hi michael
[14:04]	schestowitz[TR]	michael, put political stuff in techpol
[14:04]	schestowitz[TR]	and there will be less conflict
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[14:05]	matey	the weakness of unions as a force for free software couldnt be more straightforward
[14:05]	matey	the fsf has no power to change shit.
[14:06]	matey	the unions have mostly untapped power, in quantities most people cant imagine (potentially)
[14:06]	matey	at least as much change has come from unions as the fsf (which lobbies for a specific kind of reform)
[14:06]	matey	(and has failed for nearly a decade straight or more)
[14:07]	matey	unions dont even need to be working perfectly or led perfectly to do their job
[14:07]	matey	the workers fight for progress-- and the leaders often capitulate to corporations
[14:07]	matey	but unlike with the fsf, where the leader capitulates and the workers demand LESS progress, rather than more
[14:08]	TR News	"Thanks to an anonymous benefactor for donating a few of these for this months Ware. The board itself is a bit sparse, but, there are some hefty clues regardless. I think theres a good chance someone will guess it from this image alone." https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=6435
[14:08]	TR Bot	 Name that Ware, June 2022 bunnie's blog
[14:08]	matey	the leader tries to play negotiator and if they fail enough, they are replaced with a STRONGER leader, not a weaker one
[14:08]	matey	so clearly, a union is a a good model for a future fsf replacement
[14:08]	matey	but wait
[14:08]	matey	unions in general could add the 4 freedoms to their lists of demands and what they fight for
[14:09]	matey	and then youd have the power of unions PLUS the concept of free software
[14:09]	matey	the fsf has the concept but does nothing.
[14:09]	matey	the unions actually do something but they lack the concept for the most part
[14:09]	matey	so giving the idea of free software to unions, IF possible, would reboot the movement
[14:09]	thisideup	union are ruled by the mob
[14:10]	matey	youd have to make the argument that user rights are worker rights
[14:10]	matey	but user rights ARE worker rights. you still have to make the argument
[14:10]	matey	imo youre better off selling free software as an idea to unions than you are buying water bottles from the fsf and supporting toxicplanet
[14:11]	thisideup	im on strike im using linux!
[14:11]	matey	maybe it wont work, but its an idea worth exploring
[14:11]	matey	the fsf is already obsolete. if unions cared about free software (IF) the fsf would be even more useless
[14:11]	matey	(and thats a tall order really-- for the fsf to be even more useless)
[14:12]	thisideup	ubuntu unity got dumped for gnome
[14:13]	matey	imo unions are more powerful than little 501c3s like the fsf (particularly these days, when they all end up infiltrated by corporations)
[14:13]	matey	and they have a stronger connection to their base than fake political parties
[14:14]	matey	but the coolest thing about them is that when things go to shit at the very top
[14:14]	matey	they just remove the top and REPLACE it with something better
[14:14]	thisideup	unions in the usa was rulled by the mob
[14:14]	matey	the coup did the fucking opposite
[14:14]	matey	it removed the leader and founder and replaced him with--
[14:15]	matey	they might have well put toby from the office in charge
[14:15]	matey	i mean hes just keeping the seat warm for someone from gnome to come in and take it
[14:15]	matey	the next fsf president will be someone from the coup, guaranteed
[14:16]	matey	guix, gnome? debian? red hat? (not oliva) who knows
[14:16]	thisideup	after 2ww the mob become an armed branch of the special forces
[14:16]	matey	or maybe lea h will be right and it will be greg, but that doesnt matter
[14:16]	matey	either way, the fsf will continue its trajectory
[14:16]	thisideup	thats how they stormed the capitol
[14:17]	matey	it isnt going to turn around, and people arent going to force it to turn around
[14:17]	matey	those people are STILL silenced by the fsf
[14:17]	matey	including stallman (who likely doesnt have much to say, but should at least be allowed to say it)
[14:17]	thisideup	and killed kenndy and killed kennedy assassin
[14:17]	TR News	...now eON and maybe other energy providers in the UK started nagging people over the telephone, not just email and snail mail, over stupid "smart" (spy) meters. They also like to pretend it's almost compulsory and try to blame "The government". Crooks.
[14:17]	matey	it IS hard to tell if he has much to say when we know hes silenced
[14:18]	matey	but we have years of data on this that can help us guess 
[14:18]	matey	the idea of him being unsilenced at this point is purely hypothetical anyway
[14:19]	matey	even the supportstallman website, which is wonderful really, has no plan to glean what the "real stallman" wants and then fight for it
[14:19]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166673
[14:19]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[14:19]	matey	they "only" protect his legacy, in the sense of standing against the mob 
[14:19]	matey	which is way better than nothing
[14:20]	matey	its not enough to save free software, but it helps because the attacks on stallman made software freedom even harder to fight for (by design)
[14:20]	matey	that was the point
[14:20]	TR News	The Basics of Coding and Programming That You Need to Know https://www.makeuseof.com/coding-and-programming-basics/ Source: makeuseof
[14:20]	TR Bot	 The Basics of Coding and Programming That You Need to Know
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[14:20]	matey	if they stand up for his legacy, someone else can fight for the cause he founded.
[14:21]	matey	itd be nice if they did both of course, but i guarantee there are people willing to stand up for him that have no idea how to save free software
[14:21]	matey	they might as well do what theyre good at
[14:21]	matey	and then if you look at some projects outside the scope of supportstallman
[14:21]	thisideup	they did the samething to linus
[14:22]	matey	there are at least a couple people fighting other battles on other fronts 
[14:22]	matey	i mean theres overlap
[14:23]	matey	but imo there isnt a lot
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[14:23]	thisideup	google will fight for opensource
[14:24]	matey	back when the fsf stood for anything, they learned that hard way that if you stand for something, it pisses people off
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[14:24]	matey	the new people havent learned-- probably never will learn, or simply dont care--
[14:24]	TR News	Blocking web-page adverts in a container https://bkhome.org/news/202206/blocking-web-page-adverts-in-a-container.html Source: bkhome
[14:24]	TR Bot	 Blocking web-page adverts in a container
[14:24]	matey	if your first priority is to not piss people off
[14:25]	matey	ultimately you wont be standing for anything either
[14:25]	TR News	PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 Released! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166674
[14:25]	TR Bot	 PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 Released! | Tux Machines
[14:25]	matey	theyre looking for an inoffensive way to say that user rights matter more than the right of anyone to have a monopoly on software.
[14:25]	matey	you cant say that without pissing off people who want a monopoly on software.
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[14:26]	matey	it doesnt matter HOW you say it, its going to piss them off if its clear enough for anyone to know what youre saying
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[14:26]	thisideup	they want a monopoly on peoples lifes
[14:26]	matey	try and find a way to say youre against the right to an abortion-- without pissing off people fighting for that right
[14:27]	TR News	Quad Cortex-A55 @2.2GHz; ARM Mali-G57 GPU https://linuxgizmos.com/vecow-introduces-som-line-based-on-mediatek-genio-1200-500-350/
[14:27]	matey	its impossible
[14:27]	TR Bot	( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/vecow-introduces-som-line-based-on-mediatek-genio-1200-500-350/ )
[14:27]	matey	(im pro choice, and very pissed off about that)
[14:28]	matey	try and find a way to say you support putlin without pissing off half the planet 
[14:29]	matey	free software cant frame free software in a way that doesnt piss off monopolists.
[14:29]	schestowitz[TR]	true
[14:29]	matey	the more it tries, the more it becomes open source.
[14:29]	schestowitz[TR]	it should not try to appease, either
[14:30]	matey	and not appeasing should go beyond mere critique
[14:30]	matey	there should be EFFORTS (beyond talk) to undo their bullshit
[14:30]	matey	if all you want to is to say "software should be free"
[14:30]	matey	the fsf has that covered
[14:30]	matey	they used to do more.
[14:30]	matey	now they outsource
[14:30]	matey	marketing, software development, hosting, even leadership
[14:31]	matey	going the same route that osi did before osi went belly-up
[14:31]	matey	opening everything up to corporations
[14:31]	matey	holding the door for them
[14:31]	matey	but they always SAY how important free software is, oh yes
[14:31]	matey	they just dont act like it
[14:31]	matey	and like i just said, even when they say it
[14:31]	TR News	Programming/Development Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166675
[14:31]	TR Bot	 Programming/Development Leftovers | Tux Machines
[14:32]	matey	theyre looking for some way to stand for it while-- as you said-- appeasing
[14:32]	matey	(you didnt say they were appeasing but you used the word. im saying theyre appeasing)
[14:32]	matey	even esr wasnt so coy, even when he was useless.
[14:33]	matey	he said he was standing up to microsoft-- even when he gave them the perfect vehicle with which to put the fsf out of commission
[14:33]	TR News	Replace "Update Chrome OS" with "Update the OS" (put proper GNU/Linux on it!) https://linuxhint.com/why-is-my-chromebook-so-slow/
[14:33]	TR Bot	 Why is my Chromebook so slow?
[14:33]	matey	(but i think it was stupidity caused by ego)
[14:33]	matey	some people are deliberate collaborators-- they deserve to be called that
[14:34]	matey	i dont think esr was directly involved with the coup
[14:34]	matey	at the same time, he was one of its architects
[14:34]	matey	i dont think esr was directly involved with the coup <- id LOVE to get my hands on proof to the contrary. i simply dont think thats what happened.
[14:35]	TR News	ICBM cites Gartner as an authority. Gartner is a bribed shill and liar. A bunch of crooks and charlatans, but ICBM uses them for marketing along with Microsoft https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/cios-hold-teams-accountable http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gartner_Group
[14:35]	TR Bot	 3 ways CIOs should approach IT team accountability | The Enterprisers Project
[14:35]	TR Bot	 Gartner Group - Techrights
[14:35]	matey	the coup was a product of work done by esr AND microsoft (among others)
[14:35]	matey	once again, i attribute this to esrs damning incompetence
[14:36]	TR News	ICBM: we've fired like 100,000 of OUR OWN engineers, now we moan "companies are facing [issue] due to the talent shortage." ICBM = "liars 100% of the time" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/it-hiring-5-challenges-emerging-technologies
[14:36]	matey	not technical incompetence-- politically, hes a fucking idiot
[14:36]	TR Bot	 IT hiring: 5 challenges with emerging technologies | The Enterprisers Project
[14:36]	matey	he helped create osi, which became an attack vehicle for corporations to use against free software
[14:36]	matey	he played a role in this, i think non-deliberately
[14:37]	matey	he had, to put it nicely, "a better idea"
[14:37]	matey	oh, it wasnt a better idea
[14:37]	matey	it was a fucking stupid idea
[14:37]	matey	like stalins relationship with hitler
[14:37]	matey	"dont shoot, youll only provoke them! let them kill you!"
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[14:38]	matey	stalin was maybe the most idiotic leader that ever lived
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[14:38]	matey	hes in the running at least
[14:38]	TR News	What we should all hate about the WWW is -h-- like this: https://kifarunix.com/what-are-the-benefits-of-using-a-password-management-for-your-business/ the site typically covers UNIX/Linux and this is meant to look like just another "article", but it's SEO SPAM. Topic, links, pure BS!!!
[14:38]	TR Bot	are the Benefits Of Using a Password Management For Your Business - kifarunix.com
[14:38]	matey	and putlin must think hes him
[14:38]	matey	or maybe even better!
[14:39]	TR News	Another new example of SEO webspam in what is OTHERWISE a real blog. They get paid to plug in spam and push that to readers without disclosing that it's SPAM. https://medevel.com/6-tools-to-manage-revenue-fluctuations-in-business/
[14:39]	TR Bot	 6 Tools To Manage Revenue Fluctuations In Business
[14:41]	matey	im not as hard on stallman as i am on esr or torvalds
[14:41]	matey	torvalds was a nasty shill-- just a little at first
[14:41]	matey	then on and on for more than 20 years
[14:41]	TR News	A spy meter ("smart" meter) does not lower energy bills. A spy meter needs energy to run, so it does the exact opposite. But it saves greedy companies the need to send a person to take readings... plus it gives them data about you... to SELL. Don't surrender to this scam.
[14:41]	matey	people PROJECTED stallmans ideas, intentions and accomplishments onto  torvalds
[14:42]	matey	while torvalds had a corporate dick sucking contest (but even HE had standards... gkh is not better)
[14:42]	TR News	The WWW is, IME, moving from about 80% webspam and PR noise to over 90%. Soon the Web will be almost nothing but bloat and spam... and social [sic] control 'media'...
[14:42]	matey	torvalds, BASICALLY software jesus, folded under pressure before rms did
[14:42]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: torvalds comes from a socialist home
[14:42]	schestowitz[TR]	he is sympathetic to that, still
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	when e attacks FSF and RMS he
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	1) does what's nowadays called "viortue signalling"
[14:43]	matey	well hes a worthless socialist then
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	to signal his  lotalty to the corporations
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	it won't surffice 
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	we saw in 2018
[14:43]	matey	i mean even if linus is "
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	2) he changes history
[14:43]	matey	socialist" LINUX is capitalist
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	he wants to remove RMS
[14:43]	matey	 2) he changes history <- only shit socialists do that
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	while admitting GNU GCC and GPL weree needed for his success
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	FSF is just an org
[14:43]	schestowitz[TR]	not so rleevant to him
[14:44]	matey	 he wants to remove RMS <- like i said, worthless socialist then
[14:44]	thisideup	RMS is a socialist
[14:44]	matey	anyway, point is, rms stood for longer than linus and esr
[14:44]	matey	both linus and esr were "folding" 20 years ago
[14:44]	matey	rms put up a fight MOST of us couldnt
[14:44]	matey	so credit where credit is due
[14:45]	matey	that doesnt extend to pretending hes got anything else in him
[14:45]	matey	he doesnt
[14:45]	matey	thats very important, not as a critique, but strategically
[14:45]	matey	stallman cannot, will not (ever) save us
[14:45]	matey	he did enough of course. he would be WELCOME to do more (imo-- not in everyones o)
[14:45]	matey	but its never going to happen
[14:46]	matey	people waiting for it are fooling themselves-- strategically speaking, thats suicide
[14:46]	matey	they might as well wait for jesus himself
[14:46]	matey	/me checks the calendar
[14:46]	matey	any day now?
[14:46]	matey	well, give it another 1000 years
[14:47]	matey	stallman has left it up to a defunct fsf
[14:47]	thisideup	ill just wait for Christ then
[14:47]	matey	per the advice of his "friends" and colleagues
[14:47]	matey	who are either idiots, or worse
[14:48]	matey	the fsf, like open source, has left the reform of corporations up to the corporations themselves
[14:48]	thisideup	matey will you ever shutup?
[14:48]	matey	foxes are EXCELLENT henhouse guards
[14:49]	matey	they make videos about how important it is to have hens and protect them and stand up for them
[14:49]	matey	then they put foxes in charge of the henhouse
[14:49]	matey	it gives a very clear impression of what the videos are about
[14:49]	matey	bullshit, to put it simply
[14:50]	matey	ive been saying for years now-- this is NOT unique in a 501c3
[14:50]	matey	it goes from being about a cause to being about MONEY and MESSAGING
[14:50]	matey	from the cause itself to "awareness"
[14:50]	thisideup	stfu spambot
[14:50]	matey	at some point they throw out the cause itself, for PROMOTING the cause
[14:51]	matey	for marketing.
[14:51]	matey	and its redundant-- microsoft can tell you all day that its VERY important for you to control your computing
[14:51]	matey	and then they take over your computer. they just say that youre in charge.
[14:51]	matey	microsoft can do that-- its equally useful when the fsf does the same thing.
[14:52]	matey	something important happens when you throw the cause itself out for MARKETING
[14:52]	matey	more people are willing to throw money at your "cause" (messaging)
[14:52]	matey	and then! you can THANK them in public
[14:52]	matey	and now youre basically advertising for microsoft
[14:53]	matey	only now, its tax-deductible.
[14:53]	matey	what megacorp could possibly be against such a scheme?
[14:53]	matey	and thats why they push for it
[14:53]	matey	what did someone call it?
[14:53]	matey	non-profit capture?
[14:54]	matey	like regulatory capture, but of non-profits?
[14:54]	matey	and this is typical of orgs like the fsf
[14:54]	matey	they have a good run-- then they do exactly this
[14:54]	matey	then they become a mouthpiece for the very companies who they used to stand against
[14:54]	matey	what the fsf is doing is LEGALISED FRAUD
[14:55]	matey	its corrupt
[14:55]	matey	defunct
[14:55]	matey	traitorous
[14:55]	matey	but above all, bullshit
[14:56]	matey	sfc is worse, because they helped make this happen
[14:56]	matey	but that doesnt mean the fsf isnt traitorous too
[14:56]	matey	they both betrayed the movement, their members, the founder and their history and cause.
[14:56]	thisideup	stfu asshole
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[14:56]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Going Increasingly Dark (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When Its Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record)
[14:57]	matey	they ought to be treated accordingly
[14:57]	matey	but that will certainly take a while
[14:57]	matey	they have microsoft and ibm propping them up (not directly, ibm pulled funding)
[14:57]	matey	ibm STILL props up the fsf though
[14:57]	matey	in ways even you can figure out
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[14:57]	matey	only so they can "liberate" gcc (that is, make it their own)
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[14:58]	thisideup	stfu asshole go to the trump supporters channel
[14:58]	matey	"liberate" in the iraq war sense
[14:58]	matey	like ukraine is being liberated now
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[15:00]	matey	id think it would be silly for ibm to bother owning gcc of course
[15:00]	matey	just like they would never bother purchasing red hat
[15:00]	matey	oh
[15:00]	matey	2 out of 3 huh?
[15:01]	matey	ibm was interested enough in gcc to work on it for years, before liberating it
[15:01]	schestowitz[TR]	<thisideup> stfu asshole go to the trump supporters channel
[15:01]	matey	i sure putlin was also invested heavily in ukraine
[15:01]	schestowitz[TR]	I don't understand this remark
[15:01]	schestowitz[TR]	michael you set uup your own channel
[15:01]	schestowitz[TR]	#techpol
[15:01]	schestowitz[TR]	which you later abandoned
[15:01]	schestowitz[TR]	because nobody really agreed with your nazi-sympathetic views
[15:02]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, I wait for july 2nd
[15:02]	schestowitz[TR]	that's when we get some july numbers from russia
[15:02]	chunky	damn that guy was being very rude! 
[15:02]	schestowitz[TR]	on OS usage online
[15:02]	chunky	i don't approve of that!
[15:02]	XRevan86	activelow is Michael?
[15:02]	schestowitz[TR]	maybe lots of people have moved to gnu/linux there this month
[15:02]	schestowitz[TR]	XFaCE: many nyms are him
[15:03]	matey	putlin is fooling himself
[15:03]	schestowitz[TR]	he must have used nearly 10 names already
[15:03]	matey	if he thinks he can avoid microsoft and other evil western corporations
[15:03]	matey	by switching to gnu/linux
[15:03]	schestowitz[TR]	because when people see a person with such views walking into a pub they move away
[15:03]	matey	thats like avoiding putlins megalomatic bullshit by moving to ukraine!
[15:03]	chunky	do you think stallman was paid to act manically and sabotage his own free software movement?
[15:03]	thisideup	YES
[15:03]	matey	a nazi walks into a bar...
[15:04]	schestowitz[TR]	wunderbar!
[15:04]	matey	haha
[15:04]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wunderbar
[15:04]	TR Bot	 Wunderbar - Wikipedia
[15:04]	thisideup	what funny about that?
[15:05]	chunky	does anyone see my chattings?
[15:05]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=-kk65epNc98
[15:05]	TR Bot	 ET - Wolfenstein: ENEMY TERRITORY Triple Kills of a returning player... WUNDERBAAAR !!! - Invidious
[15:05]	matey	 he must have used nearly 10 names already <- i think its more
[15:05]	schestowitz[TR]	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wure5mTY_0c
[15:05]	matey	like 5 at least in the past 48 hours
[15:05]	TR Bot	 Wunderbar - Invidious
[15:05]	thisideup	who?
[15:05]	matey	he is accellerating though. maybe hes going for 6 million
[15:06]	schestowitz[TR]	shoes?
[15:06]	schestowitz[TR]	ther might be 12 million
[15:06]	matey	i saw the shoes
[15:06]	schestowitz[TR]	but you know they like to lessen the number
[15:06]	matey	i dont think there were 6 million shoes
[15:06]	matey	there were more than enough to make the point though
[15:06]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/30/rodrigo-duterte-vows-to-kill-3-million-drug-addicts-and-likens-himself-to-hitler
[15:06]	TR Bot	 Rodrigo Duterte vows to kill 3 million drug addicts and likens himself to Hitler | Philippines | The Guardian
[15:06]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/01/world/asia/philippines-rodrigo-duterte-hitler-drugs.html
[15:06]	TR Bot	 Duterte, Citing Hitler, Says He Wants to Kill 3 Million Addicts in Philippines - The New York Times
[15:07]	matey	/rodrigo-duterte-vows-to-kill-3-million-drug-addicts-and-likens-himself-to-hitler <- what a charming fellow, do you think he will head the epo later?
[15:07]	thisideup	hitler used drugs
[15:07]	schestowitz[TR]	https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37515642
[15:07]	TR Bot	 Jewish leaders react to Rodrigo Duterte Holocaust remarks - BBC News
[15:07]	chunky	are there any actual humans here?
[15:07]	schestowitz[TR]	 "Hitler massacred three million Jews"
[15:08]	matey	/me facepalms
[15:08]	thisideup	i think it was more
[15:08]	matey	the world must love an idiot
[15:08]	thisideup	hitler army used methanpjetamine
[15:08]	matey	(so many examples)
[15:08]	thisideup	so did hitler
[15:09]	matey	is a mass extermination programme technically a masscre?
[15:09]	matey	maybe its a nitpick, im actually curious though
[15:09]	thisideup	matey you are an idiot
[15:10]	matey	is it a war too? is it a special military operation? i dont know
[15:10]	thisideup	only if you do it in rust
[15:10]	matey	its a war, its a special military operation-- its a war, its a special military operation
[15:10]	matey	its two mints in one!
[15:11]	TR News	Introducing PyScript [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/898452/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux
[15:11]	TR Bot	PyScript [LWN.net]
[15:11]	matey	"at noahs arcade we have two of every game so you dont have to wait-- thats two for you, cause one wont do!"
[15:12]	TR News	Fedora, FFmpeg, Firefox, Flatpak, and Fusion [LWN] https://lwn.net/Articles/897793/ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | ICBM | Red Hat
[15:12]	TR Bot	FFmpeg, Firefox, Flatpak, and Fusion [LWN.net]
[15:13]	schestowitz[TR]	"Operation" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa
[15:13]	TR Bot	 Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia
[15:14]	schestowitz[TR]	5.9 million killed
[15:14]	schestowitz[TR]	4.9 Soviets
[15:14]	schestowitz[TR]	so when Putiin says operation it doesn't mean bomb here, bomb there
[15:14]	schestowitz[TR]	it means the "full monty"
[15:14]	schestowitz[TR]	it's easier one nation at at a time
[15:15]	schestowitz[TR]	he already has belarus... without bullets fired 
[15:15]	thisideup	he used to have the usa too
[15:16]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Otto
[15:16]	TR Bot	 Operation Otto - Wikipedia
[15:17]	schestowitz[TR]	"The Nazis deliberately starved to death or otherwise killed 3.3 million Soviet prisoners of war, and millions of civilians, as the "Hunger Plan" worked to solve German food shortages and exterminate the Slavic population through starvation."
[15:17]	thisideup	nowdays its easy to improve on those numbers
[15:18]	schestowitz[TR]	They stiill ukraine
[15:18]	schestowitz[TR]	and they're still at it
[15:18]	schestowitz[TR]	"The failure of Operation Barbarossa reversed the fortunes of Nazi Germany.[32] Operationally, German forces achieved significant victories and occupied some of the most important economic areas of the Soviet Union (mainly in Ukraine) and inflicted, as well as sustained, heavy casualties. "
[15:18]	thisideup	we have to thank the nazis for the new weapons of war
[15:19]	thisideup	they was working on the nuclear bomb and already had the rockets to deliver
[15:20]	thisideup	then all that smart "cientists" got nicked by the soperpowers
[15:20]	thisideup	so hitler must be having a laugh from the beyond
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[15:23]	schestowitz[TR]	nuclear bombs get drropped
[15:23]	schestowitz[TR]	and you can denotae them some other way
[15:23]	schestowitz[TR]	no need for germany rocket "scientists"
[15:24]	schestowitz[TR]	*german
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[15:24]	TR Bot	 How to fix file size limit exceeded | Tux Machines
[15:25]	thisideup	nuclear come from german scientists
[15:25]	thisideup	they was on the brink of makinf nuclear bombs
[15:25]	TR News	"Join the FSF and friends Friday, July 1, from 12:00 to 15:00 EDT (16:00 to 19:00 UTC) to help improve the Free Software Directory." http://www.fsf.org/events/free-software-directory-on-irc-friday-july-1-starting-at-12-00-edt-16-00-utc
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[15:26]	TR News	Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166677 give up taking bribes from Microsoft, SFC....
[15:26]	TR Bot	 Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! | Tux Machines
[15:26]	schestowitz[TR]	thisideup: no
[15:26]	schestowitz[TR]	unless you count people who mescaped germany
[15:27]	schestowitz[TR]	germany was beated to it by years
[15:27]	thisideup	https://www.rbth.com/history/328489-german-scientists-who-helped-to-create-soviet-bomb
[15:27]	schestowitz[TR]	come on, michael, study history
[15:27]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[15:27]	schestowitz[TR]	heisenberg lost the war for "the bomb"
[15:27]	thisideup	what mivjel?
[15:27]	schestowitz[TR]	you
[15:27]	schestowitz[TR]	I'd not use your real name
[15:28]	schestowitz[TR]	if you had not used like 10 sockpuppets
[15:28]	schestowitz[TR]	we just need a way to keep track
[15:28]	thisideup	wasn't einstein german
[15:28]	thisideup	he did study in germany
[15:29]	TR News	KDE neon 20220630 is out. It's what I use here. https://neon.kde.org/
[15:29]	TR Bot	 KDE neon
[15:29]	schestowitz[TR]	he left
[15:29]	schestowitz[TR]	his country became shitty
[15:29]	thisideup	THATS NOT THE POINT
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[15:30]	TR News	SmartOS 20220630 is also out. https://www.tritondatacenter.com/smartos
[15:30]	TR Bot	 SmartOS | Joyent
[15:30]	schestowitz[TR]	operation paperclip alsop
[15:30]	schestowitz[TR]	germany lost many scientists
[15:30]	schestowitz[TR]	they didn't stay
[15:31]	thisideup	all that knowledge came from germany
[15:31]	schestowitz[TR]	the brain drain continues to this day
[15:31]	schestowitz[TR]	because of people there who still miss hitler
[15:31]	TR News	The pre-book learning stage and awk gemini://sotiris.papatheodorou.xyz/gemlog/20220630_the_pre_book_learning_stage_and_awk.gmi
[15:32]	thisideup	at least hitler made sure germany lost the wat
[15:32]	thisideup	war
[15:32]	thisideup	with his dumbass decisions
[15:33]	thisideup	playing with military maps
[15:35]	thisideup	the brain drain continues to this day
[15:35]	thisideup	because of people there who still miss hitler ?
[15:35]	thisideup	what does that mean?
[15:35]	XRevan86	Putin is also playing with military maps.
[15:36]	thisideup	hes speciallity is counter information
[15:36]	thisideup	kgb
[15:36]	thisideup	probablly leaves the war to the experts
[15:37]	thisideup	like that genral that was in sirya
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[15:37]	matey	<schestowitz[TR]> and they're still at i
[15:38]	matey	and thats after stalin starved them
[15:38]	matey	some treaty
[15:38]	matey	"ive starved them as much as i can-- here, you take over"
[15:38]	XRevan86	It's based on insides (even though pretty good ones), so I'm not going to press on, it doesn't matter all that much.
[15:39]	thisideup	at least puttin has military education
[15:40]	thisideup	not some mouthpiece dictator
[15:40]		*thisideup looks at matey
[15:40]	XRevan86	thisideup: Um
[15:40]	XRevan86	Hitler was literally a soldier.
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	artillery
[15:41]	thisideup	yes corporal
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	ww1
[15:41]	XRevan86	Putin was a KGB bureaucrat.
[15:41]	XRevan86	Whose military education is better?
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	hitler saw everything as a shell
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	putler sees everyone as a spyu
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	projection
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	orm "foreign agent"
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	russia has no opposition to putin
[15:41]	schestowitz[TR]	they all love putin
[15:42]	schestowitz[TR]	except the "freign agents"
[15:42]	matey	honestly, i think both perspectives have advantages
[15:42]	schestowitz[TR]	influenced by "toxic" people
[15:42]	thisideup	somehow i find it hard to imagine a KGB agent as a bureaucrat.
[15:42]	matey	though id favour someone with firsthand combat experience
[15:42]	matey	maybe NOT hitler though
[15:42]	schestowitz[TR]	john kerry?
[15:42]	XRevan86	thisideup: I mean a desk-job.
[15:42]	matey	maybe someone who isnt an idiot
[15:43]	matey	kerrys job was to give a fake president 4 more years
[15:43]	matey	thanks, idiot.
[15:43]	schestowitz[TR]	desk--0job
[15:43]	thisideup	what kinf of job does a military strategist has?
[15:43]	schestowitz[TR]	"ze shell is coming, qvvick, under ze desk"
[15:44]	XRevan86	thisideup: Hopefully a military strategist had a good career path, and they have seen combat at least once.
[15:44]	thisideup	why?
[15:44]	matey	whats being implied here is that a lack of combat experience means a guaranteed failure to command strategically
[15:44]	schestowitz[TR]	hitler got a desk-job
[15:44]	schestowitz[TR]	eva didn't know
[15:44]	matey	im not convinced thats true
[15:44]	schestowitz[TR]	unter das desk
[15:44]	XRevan86	thisideup: To understand war.
[15:44]	schestowitz[TR]	from his gay general
[15:44]	XRevan86	The psychology of the troops, et al.
[15:44]	matey	it may be a hazard and that might apply to stalin
[15:44]	matey	i mean putin lol
[15:44]	matey	honestly a slip
[15:44]	matey	it might apply to putin
[15:44]	thisideup	that for the trops
[15:45]	schestowitz[TR]	putlin
[15:45]	matey	but if putin had served he would still be a lousy psycho leader
[15:45]	matey	and hitler wasnt that great strategically imo
[15:45]	XRevan86	thisideup: Anyway, your argument that Putin has better military background than Hitler is invalid, because Putin has literally zero military background.
[15:45]	matey	pushing too far (like stalin did at home) and then losing everything as a result (like stalin did at home)
[15:45]	matey	you have to actually hold what you capture or it counts for very little
[15:45]	schestowitz[TR]	hitler was literally a shit artist
[15:45]	thisideup	are you really comparing a corporal to an officer of the KGB?
[15:46]	schestowitz[TR]	he sought revenge by bombing people
[15:46]	matey	i didnt know he painted in shit
[15:46]	matey	i assumed it wasnt vatercolours
[15:48]	matey	i dont think front line experience guarantees a better strategist (but it probably helps the odds)
[15:48]	TR News	"Linux gamer" so lost in terms of topics... "Picking parts for our new PC!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=JfVgk7243pw Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
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[15:48]	matey	nor lack of that guarantees an inferior strategist (buts its probably a hazard)
[15:49]	matey	i doubt standing in a trench helped hitler strategise as much as reading about military strategy for that matter
[15:49]	matey	but it may hvae given certain useful insights
[15:49]	matey	maybe without those he would have failed even sooner
[15:50]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: vasser?
[15:50]	thisideup	htiler was siting in the trench but then he we siysup and walks some meter and a bomb falls exactlly were he was siting
[15:51]	thisideup	its a mirical of god
[15:51]	XRevan86	Unfortunate.
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	of god?
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	god failed humanity
[15:51]	MinceR	which god
[15:51]	MinceR	Asmodeus?
[15:51]	thisideup	hitlers god
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	godel
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Gdel
[15:51]	TR Bot	 Kurt Gdel - Wikipedia
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	another smart person
[15:51]	schestowitz[TR]	escaped the shithole
[15:52]	XRevan86	Hitler was Christian, so Yahweh?
[15:52]	MinceR	right
[15:52]	thisideup	after that he got the notion he was chosen by god
[15:52]	MinceR	how fitting, yahweh used to be a war god
[15:52]	thisideup	or maybe the gas has something to do with that
[15:52]	matey	legalinsurrection.com/2019/11/vassar-president-it-was-anti-semitic-to-shout-at-israeli-jewish-speaker-from-the-river-to-the-sea-palestine-will-be-free/
[15:52]	matey	Condemns Vassar Students for Justice in Palestine for shouting genocidal slogan at Israeli speaker Hen Mazzig and disrupting his speech: "the use of the chantin this way, directed at this speakercrossed the line into anti-Semitism.
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	""After the Anschluss on 12 March 1938, Austria had become a part of Nazi Germany. Germany abolished the title Privatdozent, so Gdel had to apply for a different position under the new order. His former association with Jewish members of the Vienna Circle, especially with Hahn, weighed against him. The University of Vienna turned his application down.
[15:53]	matey	thats genocidal? 
[15:53]	XRevan86	thisideup: Hitler is not striking me as a humble guy.
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"His predicament intensified when the German army found him fit for conscription. World War II started in September 1939. Before the year was up, Gdel and his wife left Vienna for Princeton"
[15:53]	thisideup	he was known has the autrian corporal
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"Human capital flight
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[15:53]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_capital_flight
[15:53]	TR Bot	 Human capital flight - Wikipedia
[15:54]	matey	 "His predicament intensified when the German army found him fit for conscription. World War II started in September 1939. Before the year was up, Gdel and his wife left Vienna for Princeton" <- new jersey?
[15:54]	matey	thats even worse than vienna
[15:54]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166678
[15:54]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[15:54]	TR News	6 New Changes Coming to Nautilus File Manager in GNOME 43 Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166679
[15:54]	TR Bot	 6 New Changes Coming to Nautilus File Manager in GNOME 43 | Tux Machines
[15:54]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: nobody is perfect
[15:54]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, he flew away from the austraian compatriot
[15:54]	matey	another problem with nazi mythology
[15:54]	schestowitz[TR]	who had taken over germany by storm-tropper
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	*stooper
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	*tropper
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	*trooper
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	hard to type SMH
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: some people still fall for it in 2022
[15:55]	schestowitz[TR]	next year it's 90 years since the major events
[15:55]	matey	how did they take over germany? they cant even shoot one person in a crowd with 100 shots
[15:56]	thisideup	who?
[15:56]	matey	plus you can just wave your hand at them and they let you past
[15:56]	schestowitz[TR]	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1933_German_federal_election
[15:56]	TR Bot	 March 1933 German federal election - Wikipedia
[15:57]	schestowitz[TR]	43.9% of the votes
[15:57]	thisideup	political bickering
[15:57]	matey	like they didnt know alec guinness was british
[15:57]	matey	"must be one of ours"
[15:57]	thisideup	somethin matey knows verywell
[15:57]	matey	"why is he in a bathrobe though"
[15:58]	matey	"hes probably a kernel developer"
[15:58]	MinceR	strange
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[15:58]	MinceR	i thought if someone is a bathrobe, they're probably The Postal Dude, Jr.
[15:58]	MinceR	s/is a/is in a/
[15:58]	matey	its a linus thing
[15:59]	TR News	A lot of Windows https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2022/06/2022-0-day-in-wild-exploitationso-far.html
[15:59]	TR Bot	 Project Zero: 2022 0-day In-the-Wild Exploitationso far
[15:59]	thisideup	bathrobe its someone that escaped from the hospital
[15:59]	matey	also obi wan wasnt the postal dude, but he was delivering bad news
● Jun 30
[16:01]	matey	in the fuzi remake of star wars, vader doesnt die
[16:01]	thisideup	obi lan
[16:01]	matey	instead luke joins him, and they take over the fsf together
[16:01]	MinceR	:>
[16:01]	TR News	Sandbagged, abused privacy of billions for profit https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/10/wow-facebook-really-knows-how-to-give-someone-a-send-off/
[16:01]	TR Bot	Facebook really knows how to give someone a send-off! TechCrunch
[16:02]	TR News	"Imagine calling someone on the phone, going hello! then putting them on hold... " https://nohello.net/en/
[16:02]	TR Bot	 no hello
[16:02]	matey	leia runs han through with a borrowed lightsaber because hes toxic
[16:02]	matey	and chewbacca becomes a woman (which is fine, if hard to picture)
[16:03]	thisideup	are we righting the next chapter for disney for free?
[16:03]	MinceR	what do female wookiees look like?
[16:04]	matey	less hairy with wider hips
[16:04]	TR News	Irving Wladawsky-Berger on IBM's (and now Microsoft's) sham marketing (e.g. openwashing, greenwashing) front, misleadingly labeled "Linux Foundation" https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2022/06/the-impressive-scope-of-the-linux-foundation-in-2022.html Source: irvingwb
[16:04]	TR Bot	 Irving Wladawsky-Berger: The Impressive Scope of the Linux Foundation in the 21st Century Digital Economy
[16:04]	thisideup	thats something only MinceR is intrested to know
[16:05]	TR News	IBM says "digital transformations" again; they see that as vendor lockin opportunity. Run away. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/hbr-analytics-services-report-digital-transformation-refocused-new-goals-require-new-strategies
[16:05]	TR Bot	 Harvard Business Review Analytics Services Report - Digital Transformation Refocused: New Goals Require New Strategies
[16:05]	thisideup	MinceR is waiting for the right anser wich is "a feminist"
[16:06]	thisideup	you got love this loaded questions
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	LOL!!!!
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	"
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	Both internally and externally Team London is now fully available.
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	For 38 minutes Team London was unavailable or inaccessible.
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	The database appears to be shown as "storage-full" in AWS, causing the DB access to be paused. Increasing the storage space from 40GB to 45GB had the effect of restoring the website's functionality. 
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	From work
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	clown computiing
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	your site is down
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	why?
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	artificvial limits
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	in the "clown"...
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	so robust
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	London Town Hall outsourced to Amazon
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	US
[16:07]	schestowitz[TR]	London, United States ;-)
[16:07]	matey	www.theodysseyonline.com/hitler-failed-get-into-art-school
[16:07]	matey	Hitler hated this; he hated any kind of job that would involve menial labor and routine, thinking himself too good for that kind of thing. Once his dad died, Hitler felt free to do his own thing, free of his father's strict rules and behavior. He was a rebellious teenager, interested in German nationalism and art.
[16:08]	schestowitz[TR]	but based in England... somehow
[16:08]	thisideup	wtf is team london?
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR]	if they STILL had their own infra, this wouldn't have happened
[16:09]	matey	south america is probably equally confused about amazon being in the united states
[16:09]	thisideup	Hitler wasnt that bad with the brush
[16:09]	schestowitz[TR]	but some salespeople convinced them to outsource their systems to another continent
[16:09]	thisideup	maybe if he would have stick with it
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	instead of amazon sending out alerts
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	they just take the thing down
[16:10]	matey	 but some salespeople convinced them to outsource their systems to another continent <- maybe it was the same people who convinced the gnu project to move to github
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	even a town hall of a world capital
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	or town hall to adopt shithub
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	"inner source"
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	they used to have better systemns
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	like mantis
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	then that became jira (bloat)
[16:10]	schestowitz[TR]	they keep adopting "clown"
[16:11]	matey	instead they have jeff bezos preying on mantis
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR]	and new issues emerge
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR]	atlassian aalso had data loss recently
[16:11]	thisideup	team london are they running for the olimpics?
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR]	they lost many IT people
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR]	real IT
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR]	because they adopt suitware and surveillanceware
[16:11]	schestowitz[TR]	like clown
[16:12]	thisideup	amazoning
[16:12]	schestowitz[TR]	anyway, 38 mins of downtime
[16:12]	schestowitz[TR]	because some proprietary AWS GUI sent, upgrade, pay us more
[16:12]	schestowitz[TR]	they used to have their own infra when we started supporting them 
[16:12]	schestowitz[TR]	2014 when I viisited them and secured the contract
[16:12]	matey	monopolies re great for reliability, because when the only solution goes down,
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[16:13]	schestowitz[TR]	clown computing is an attack on IT and on IT people
[16:13]	schestowitz[TR]	cui bono? http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/cia-strategy-collect-all-data-and-keep-it-forever-130325?news=849534
[16:13]	TR Bot	Stories - CIA Strategy: Collect All Data and Keep it Forever - AllGov - News
[16:13]	thisideup	i think its was mazon marketing people that made "amazing" popular instead of awesome
[16:13]	TR News	Red Hat / IBM Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166680
[16:13]	TR Bot	 Red Hat / IBM Leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:14]	MinceR	(cat) https://p.helene.moe/media/54b473b1552cef31bb6abe8c16201d8c9cbbd76440cec7c71969216b7cd02dfc.png
[16:14]	psydruid	clowns like attacking little children in particular
[16:14]	schestowitz[TR]	the media tells them that "all the kooool kidzzz" move to the clown
[16:14]	schestowitz[TR]	whatever that is
[16:14]	schestowitz[TR]	just outsourcing
[16:15]	schestowitz[TR]	and since the managers are NOT technical
[16:15]	schestowitz[TR]	they fall for it
[16:15]		*matey (~matey@txkdaiuveepza.irc) has joined #techrights
[16:15]	matey	join us now and take over our software
[16:15]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: 
[16:15]	schestowitz[TR]	<techrights-news> Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166677 give up taking bribes from Microsoft, SFC....
[16:15]	TR Bot	 Give Up GitHub: The Time Has Come! | Tux Machines
[16:15]	thisideup	they should be using owneclown
[16:16]	schestowitz[TR]	sfc says drop gtihub
[16:16]	schestowitz[TR]	sfc sells microsoft keynote
[16:16]	schestowitz[TR]	in conference about copyleft
[16:16]	schestowitz[TR]	spot the contradiciton
[16:16]	TR News	OpenSSL, Squid, Dracut Update in Tumbleweed Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166681
[16:16]	TR Bot	 OpenSSL, Squid, Dracut Update in Tumbleweed | Tux Machines
[16:16]	matey	theres no contradiction-- sfc is perpetually full of shit
[16:16]	matey	theyre being true to form
[16:16]	schestowitz[TR]	thisideup: they used it
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	chris set that up
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	like mantis
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	he left after they embraeed shitware
[16:17]	thisideup	schestowitz site only had 5m downtime in heluva long time
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	they drove away many talented geeks
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	he set up nextcloud or own clodu
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	cannot remember which
[16:17]	matey	including stallman, with a whip and chains
[16:17]	matey	nextcloud: github
[16:17]	matey	owncloud: also github
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	as mirror?
[16:17]	schestowitz[TR]	or "main"?
[16:17]	matey	perhaps, not that i know of...
[16:17]	psydruid	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFHleRUa0qE
[16:17]	TR Bot	https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=hFHleRUa0qE
[16:18]	schestowitz[TR]	where's yo masta?
[16:18]	TR Bot	invidious.snopyta.org | IT | Opening Scene | HD | OV | 2017 - Invidious
[16:18]	psydruid	clowns are very dangerous
[16:18]	matey	master-baiting monkeys
[16:18]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: nextcloud LED a compalint about Microsoft
[16:18]	schestowitz[TR]	in the EU
[16:18]	schestowitz[TR]	I very much dioubt they would make microsoft master over theirn code
[16:18]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owncloud     github.com/owncloud 
[16:18]	TR Bot	 ownCloud - Wikipedia
[16:19]	schestowitz[TR]	http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/158424
[16:19]	TR Bot	 EU coalition urges EU to push back against gate keeping by Microsoft, files official complaint | Tux Machines
[16:19]	schestowitz[TR]	^ nexttcloud
[16:20]	matey	https://github.com/owncloud/core Issues 333Pull requests 68
[16:20]	TR Bot	- owncloud/core: ownCloud web server core (Files, DAV, etc.)
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: see the SFC statement
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	they say quit github
[16:20]	thisideup	they filed a file
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	cause gpl violations
[16:20]	matey	i was doing owncloud first
[16:20]	schestowitz[TR]	for two years in a row they bagged microsoft money to sell influence over gpl
[16:20]	matey	matey: nextcloud LED a compalint about Microsoft <- and mjg did one against ice.
[16:20]	thisideup	i bet the complain is on amazon clown
[16:21]	schestowitz[TR]	that was done specifically, according to them, by the one who later became OSI interm GM
[16:21]	matey	complaints != boycotts != alternatives
[16:21]	schestowitz[TR]	deb nicholas cage
[16:21]	schestowitz[TR]	caged by microsoft
[16:21]	matey	/me still thinks deb icaza is funnier
[16:21]	matey	because both are traitors and theres only one letter different
[16:21]	schestowitz[TR]	yes, I think we adopted this for a while
[16:22]	schestowitz[TR]	bully de icaza would be funny
[16:22]	schestowitz[TR]	but too far from the real name
[16:22]	psydruid	deb nichola francis ford coppola cage icaza
[16:22]	MinceR	that's a mouthful
[16:22]	matey	nothing beats "caring slander" though
[16:22]	matey	i stole that one
[16:23]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2021/09/15/wrong-solutions-swpats/
[16:23]	matey	as a favour (they can have it back if they want it)
[16:23]	TR Bot	 Open Invention Network (OIN) Recognises a Risk Posed to Cryptocurrencies (Danger From Software Patents), But OIN Still Proposes the Wrong Solutions | Techrights
[16:23]	schestowitz[TR]	wait, wrong link
[16:23]	schestowitz[TR]	Video: http://techrights.org/2021/04/24/debunking-deb/
[16:23]	TR Bot	 OINs Deb Nicholson: We Dont Solve Any Real Issues, Just Like OSI (Where Nicholson is Now Interim General Manager) | Techrights
[16:23]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/videos/oin-swpats-interview.webm
[16:23]	psydruid	Coppola is his real last name, he's related to the director of the Godfather movies
[16:23]	schestowitz[TR]	might kill the bot
[16:24]	matey	has it "adapted" again
[16:24]	SomeH4x0r	TechrightsBot-tr? Why?
[16:24]	schestowitz[TR]	SomeH4x0r: memory allocation
[16:24]	schestowitz[TR]	ogg files cause issues
[16:24]	matey	i never have trouble with the audio
[16:24]	matey	the videos eat cpu for breakfast
[16:24]	psydruid	is it leaking memory?
[16:24]	schestowitz[TR]	you can see our code for it in git
[16:24]	schestowitz[TR]	php-based
[16:25]	MinceR	presumably it fetches the whole resource and looks for <title> in it
[16:25]	matey	given that the whole system is php/perl based
[16:25]	thisideup	nowdays the newsoftware is always worst that the older one
[16:25]	schestowitz[TR]	gemini://gemini.techrights.org/git/tr-git/IRC/
[16:25]	matey	i can see why you would use php
[16:25]	matey	personally im not in the market for either of those
[16:26]	matey	<MinceR> presumably it fetches the whole resource and looks for <title> in it <- messy
[16:26]	matey	wget has a timeout, i dont know if it can stop after n bytes
[16:26]	matey	but it can stop after n seconds
[16:26]	TR News	Curiouser and Curiouser: How I found, and what you can learn, from gemserv's Directory Transversal vulnerabilities gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-06-30-check-your-project.gmi
[16:27]	thisideup	n lines
[16:27]	matey	curl is an os posing as a command line tool, im sure you can tell it to stop after a republican gets in office on yom kippur
[16:27]	thisideup	matey loves to use the n word
[16:27]	matey	awk has curl envy
[16:27]	MinceR	i thought wget was more featureful than curl
[16:28]	matey	not that i know of-- but i could be wrong
[16:28]	matey	curl does more protocols at least
[16:28]	matey	which i used to take advantage of 
[16:28]	TR News	Mozilla Thunderbird: Are Your Favorite Thunderbird Add-ons Compatible With Thunderbird 102? http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166599#comment-34198
[16:28]	TR Bot	 Mozilla Thunderbird 102 Released with New Address Book, Import/Export Wizard | Tux Machines
[16:28]	thisideup	curl had security issues
[16:29]	matey	wget can do crawling, i think
[16:29]	matey	im not saying curl cant, but i dont know
[16:29]	TR News	LOL. "I'm not sure if I'd call an Intel motherboard a "dream", more like a specific type of dream, like the ones when you go to school naked or all your teeth fall out." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1331687-a-dream-come-true-running-coreboot-on-a-modern-retail-desktop-motherboard
[16:29]	TR Bot	Dream Come True: Running Coreboot On A Modern, Retail Desktop Motherboard - Phoronix Forums
[16:30]	MinceR	yeah, i used recursive retrieval in wget a lot
[16:31]	matey	https://github.com/nextcloud/server
[16:31]	TR Bot	- nextcloud/server: Nextcloud server, a safe home for all your data
[16:31]	thisideup	this port does still require the Intel FSP (Firmware Support Package) binary so it's not 100% open-source.
[16:31]	matey	Join the team 
[16:31]	matey	There are many ways to contribute, of which development is only one! Find out how to get involved, including as translator, designer, tester, helping others and much more!
[16:31]	matey	     Set up your local development environment
[16:31]	matey	     Pick a good first issue
[16:31]	matey	     Create a branch and make your changes. Remember to sign off your commits using git commit -sm "Your commit message"
[16:31]	matey	     Create a pull request and @mention the people from the issue to review
[16:31]	matey	     Fix things that come up during review
[16:31]	matey	     Wait for it to get merged!
[16:32]	SomeH4x0r	what is "good first issue"?
[16:32]	matey	schestowitz[TR] i believe nextcloud is github-based (as i already did)
[16:32]	matey	good first issue is get tfo github
[16:32]	matey	but i doubt that will go over well
[16:32]	TR News	Old school editor Vim hits version 9 with faster scripting language http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34199
[16:32]	TR Bot	 Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines
[16:33]	matey	"Create a pull request and @mention the people from the issue to review" <- this sounds very github-based (source: their github repo)
[16:33]	matey	"We are moving more and more towards using Vue.js in the frontend"
[16:34]	thisideup	is nextcloud a ownclowd fork ?
[16:35]	matey	so nextcloud is github-based
[16:35]	matey	and so is their 3rd party frontend
[16:35]	schestowitz[TR]	wow
[16:35]	schestowitz[TR]	weird
[16:35]	matey	but that shouldnt surprise anyone
[16:35]	matey	because pretty much everything is controlled by ibm and microsoft now
[16:35]	schestowitz[TR]	their head is in the lion's mouth
[16:35]	schestowitz[TR]	an analogy rms likes to use
[16:35]	schestowitz[TR]	I just got a call from work
[16:35]	thisideup	microsft is gorking every project onto github
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	so it turns out the engs had no aws access
[16:36]	matey	from google?
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	and so on this clown copmputing env (aws) we could not fix the issue
[16:36]	matey	I just got a call from work <- over google?
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	even if we wanted to
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	with ful root access
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	welcome to clown
[16:36]	matey	a google voice call?
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	use proprietary guis tro "|solve" issue
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	slike artificial limitatios on DB size
[16:36]	matey	google(listens to your)voice
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	"beilling" downtime
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	reason for downtime:
[16:36]	psydruid	wait for yourself to be merged into the clown!
[16:36]	schestowitz[TR]	billing!
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	not billness (billG)
[16:37]	psydruid	a symbiotic relationship
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	the clown company wanted more money
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	so it put down the site for an hour
[16:37]	matey	gee thats a nice website you got here
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	aws: we are zero downtime
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"we are robust"
[16:37]	thisideup	simbiotic?
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	"guranteed sla"
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	and.... it's downr
[16:37]	matey	robusted
[16:37]	schestowitz[TR]	reason: billing
[16:37]	matey	ro-busted by ro-bots
[16:38]	matey	they can open an issue on github
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: n, not gulag voiiuce
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	landline
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	intercom even
[16:38]	matey	intercoms are great
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	rianne is working today
[16:38]	matey	i waiting for nest to make one
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	nest has wone iirc
[16:38]	matey	rofl
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	but it's not really intercom
[16:38]	schestowitz[TR]	it just emulates it
[16:39]	matey	yeah
[16:39]	schestowitz[TR]	gulag gets to ccontrol it all
[16:39]	matey	through the clown
[16:39]	schestowitz[TR]	so now even a  doorbell is wiretapped
[16:39]	matey	/me waits for it
[16:39]	schestowitz[TR]	it used to be just some wire they stretch across
[16:39]	schestowitz[TR]	would last OK 30+ years
[16:39]	schestowitz[TR]	now you need to get updates and after 5 years it's "end of life"
[16:39]	schestowitz[TR]	solution: BUUY A NEW ONE
[16:39]	psydruid	hebban olla vogala nestas bigunnan
[16:39]	matey	yeah we had one of the dumb doorhells (dumb bells?)
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	dumbbells...
[16:40]	matey	doorhells <- the interdimensional portals that lead to github
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	lose weight while answering the door
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	what next?
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	what miracle?
[16:40]	thisideup	dumb doorhells you cant open the door wile taking a dump
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	a "smart" "assistane" the OPENs thwe ooor physically?
[16:40]	psydruid	"have all birds started building nests"
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	RUSHA "likes"
[16:40]	matey	at the tone(d muscles) please leave your message
[16:40]	schestowitz[TR]	"give me address, dima, i open door to burglars"
[16:41]	matey	its not a breakin, its a special greeting operation
[16:41]	thisideup	or worst to the fbi
[16:41]	schestowitz[TR]	FaceBook Integram
[16:41]	schestowitz[TR]	(Instagram
[16:42]	thisideup	at least burglars donr send you to jail
[16:42]	schestowitz[TR]	they can send you to the grave
[16:42]	thisideup	so do the fbi
[16:43]	thisideup	at least if you are black
[16:44]	thisideup	we didnt have warrant to search but theres was this compurter glitch
[16:44]	psydruid	Facedoor: for when your face hits the door on the way out
[16:45]	MinceR	we didn't have warrant, but there are some corporations that happily sold the data to us
[16:45]	thisideup	smartdoorsbells are hardwired to open the door if the read police or fbi
[16:46]	thisideup	we didn't have warrant, but we founf you on the kackernets forum
[16:46]	TR News	Today's lesson: clown computing is so dumb that even with full (root) access to the servers you cannot resolve the issue. The issue is in some proprietary GUI of Jeff Bezos, that causes London's municipality to have 40 minutes of downtime over a superficial BILLING issue, nothing technical. Avoid clown computing. Own your systems. Quit renting from greedy blackmail artists.
[16:49]	thisideup	just adopt us english the rest of the world already did
[16:50]	thisideup	stop being twats
[16:50]	schestowitz[TR]	?
[16:50]	schestowitz[TR]	that's a british term
[16:50]	thisideup	40 minutes of downtime over a superficial BILLING?
[16:50]	thisideup	thats why i said stop
[16:51]	thisideup	BILLING thats language related or money?
[16:51]	matey	<schestowitz[TR]> a "smart" "assistane" the OPENs thwe ooor physically? <- the true meaning of "open source"
[16:51]	MinceR	"twat" is also a usian, new zealander and general australian term
[16:51]	MinceR	https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/twat
[16:51]	TR Bot	 twat - Wiktionary
[16:52]	matey	twat is used with subtle differences in britain and usa
[16:52]	matey	in usa its more often used to refer to anatomy
[16:52]	matey	in britain its more often used to describe a person
[16:52]	TR News	Links 30/06/2022: PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/postgresql-15-beta-2/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/postgresql-15-beta-2/
[16:52]	TR Bot	 Links 30/06/2022: PostgreSQL 15 Beta 2 | Techrights
[16:52]	matey	but that doesnt mean it cant be used either way
[16:52]	matey	only that one use is favoured in different places
[16:52]	matey	from what ive seen of course
[16:53]	thisideup	buggers
[16:53]	matey	for example, in shawn of the dead, "twat" is used to describe the guy from black books
[16:53]	TR News	Security Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166682
[16:53]	TR Bot	 Security Leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:53]	matey	or maybe shawn, but i think its the other guy
[16:53]	TR News	Todays Leftovers Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166683
[16:53]	TR Bot	 today's leftovers | Tux Machines
[16:53]	matey	either way the other guy (from black books) is definitely a twat
[16:53]	thisideup	will i get downvoted for using it?
[16:54]	matey	and in the uk it sometimes rhymes with cat
[16:54]	matey	in the us is basically always rhymes with caught
[16:54]	thisideup	tell mincer about it
[16:55]	thisideup	cat rhymes with cat?
[16:55]	thisideup	dont tell anyone
[16:56]	matey	it could have been the opposite 50 years ago, i dont know where it originated
[16:56]	matey	if i had to guess, id guess it was scottish :)
[16:56]	matey	i bet xrevans guess would be better
[16:56]	schestowitz[TR]	must be some german word
[16:57]	schestowitz[TR]	ask micahel
[16:57]	matey	"cunt" is also used more often to refer to a person in the uk
[16:57]	schestowitz[TR]	(aka activelow aka thisideup )
[16:57]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: used to be make
[16:57]	schestowitz[TR]	not females too
[16:57]	thisideup	am noy activelol
[16:57]	schestowitz[TR]	"she's such a c**"
[16:57]	matey	well
[16:57]	matey	when i hear cunt in the uk its usually referring to a guy
[16:58]	schestowitz[TR]	thisideup: are you roommates with activelow?
[16:58]	matey	but i dont know if its used exclusively that way
[16:58]	matey	i imagine its unisex
[16:58]	matey	there are just more guys around when its used
[16:58]	schestowitz[TR]	matey: the word lost its intensity
[16:58]	schestowitz[TR]	you'd not say it in the office
[16:58]	thisideup	roommates? no but you are
[16:58]	matey	"hey steve! how are ya, ya fuckin cunt"
[16:58]	schestowitz[TR]	but in the pub it's used casually
[16:58]	matey	yeah just like that
[16:58]	matey	its a joke
[16:58]	matey	maybe it used to be "fighting words"
[16:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[16:59]	matey	but now its almost a term of endearment (as well)
[16:59]	matey	thats brits for you
[16:59]	thisideup	matey why dont you just stfu?
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	we still say git
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	usually CHEEKY git
[16:59]	matey	yep
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	microsoft says gitHUB
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	they ndidn't create it
[16:59]	matey	steve coogan likes it
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	they ruin it
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	staff and users/projects deviate elsewhere
[16:59]	schestowitz[TR]	like with skype
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[17:00]	matey	staff and users/projects deviate elsewhere <- citation needed
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR]	i shows microsoft itself
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR]	its own data
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR]	http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/fleeing-github/
[17:00]	matey	i know a few projects have moved since the "exodus" first week
[17:00]	TR Bot	 Microsoft: The Year After We Bought GitHub There Was a Significant Decline in Number of New Projects on GitHub | Techrights
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR]	it must have gotten worse since
[17:00]	thisideup	soon we whont be able to say squat
[17:00]	schestowitz[TR]	I see many new projects that use other hosting
[17:01]	matey	http://techrights.org/2021/01/24/ <- 17 months ago
[17:01]	TR Bot	 2021 January 24 | Techrights
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	github was the "go-to"place
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	it was seen as free and convenient
[17:01]	thisideup	cause of stupid COC laws
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	snow projects think twice
[17:01]	matey	its still where all the software is, sadly.
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	older projects mostly
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	because they got locked in
[17:01]	matey	the ones weve relied on forever that arent bloated yes
[17:01]	thisideup	at least we can still say COC
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	issues, users, URLs linking to it
[17:01]	matey	the new ones arent based there but
[17:01]	schestowitz[TR]	github got all COCky
[17:02]	matey	theyre all written in github-based languages using github-based libraries
[17:02]	matey	also most new ones are still based there
[17:02]	matey	its just new projects MIGHT make an exception
[17:02]	matey	before writing everything in python or perl or c++ with boost libraries
[17:02]	matey	or rust
[17:03]	matey	or node
[17:03]	matey	while using libraries based on github
[17:03]	matey	because thats where all the software still is. for now.
[17:03]	thisideup	im room mate with schestowitz
[17:04]	matey	if you tried to write some github-free software
[17:04]	matey	youd be VERY VERY hard-pressed to do so
[17:04]	matey	but its doable, if you avoid practically everything
[17:04]	matey	if i wrote everything in awk for example
[17:05]	matey	theres a non-github-based awk in openbsd
[17:05]	matey	i dont even think it needs autotools
[17:05]	thisideup	now you can have github account just like fb google MS
[17:05]	matey	and i dont count mirrors. its just that most mirrors arent really mirrors
[17:05]	thisideup	you can use it to login to shit
[17:05]	matey	theyre not strictly mirrors
[17:06]	matey	and they end up being a step towards migration TO github too often
[17:06]	matey	but itll be nice when this generalisation is actually out of date
[17:06]	matey	it just isnt yet
[17:06]	thisideup	im using my google account to login to fb and my fb account to login to google
[17:06]	matey	it will be eventually. sooner if we fight it-- and later if we sit on it
[17:06]	thisideup	how cool is that!
[17:06]	matey	downplaying doesnt help
[17:07]	thisideup	get a github account its free!
[17:08]	thisideup	even the politicians are doing it
[17:08]	thisideup	just dont tell trump
[17:09]	thisideup	i wonder if you get banned from FB if you get banned from github too
[17:10]	thisideup	or maybe you ill be filling captchas for 6 months
[17:11]	MinceR	captcha gulag
[17:13]	thisideup	MS was asking me to have my parant "vouch" for an account i made 20 years ago
[17:15]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/06/16/tumblr-gets-deep-06-16-22/
[17:15]	TR Bot	 24 Funny Tumblr Posts That Deserve Your Attention Today
[17:17]	XRevan86	https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/30/according-to-russia-s-press-releases-they-ve-destroyed-more-military-hardware-than-ukraine-ever-had "According to Russias press releases, theyve destroyed more military hardware than Ukraine ever had. Proekt's journalists analysed the Russian Defence Ministrys reports"
[17:17]	TR Bot	 NO TITLE
[17:20]	thisideup	if they account for vodka bottles has hardware
[17:21]	thisideup	you can make molotovs out of them
[17:21]	thisideup	so i recon
[17:54]	TR News	SpellBinding: GINOYWR Wordo: GRAFT gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-30.gmi
[17:55]	TR News	Modern Art gemini://idiomdrottning.org/modern-art
[17:55]	TR News	On choosing a text editor gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220630_cotton_or_oil
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[18:12]	MinceR	https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-16-22-7.jpg
[18:12]	matey	Pine64 Has RISC-V-Based Raspberry Pi Rival, Pico W Introduced
[18:12]	matey	now that is interesting
[18:12]	MinceR	does it come with MICROS~1 malware?
[18:12]	matey	good question
[18:12]	matey	im just getting this from the tr frontpage
[18:12]	matey	havent read about the pico yet
[18:13]	matey	fwiw these stories are usually a disappointment
[18:13]	matey	i firmly believe SOME of them will become less disappointing 
[18:13]	matey	while many will remain useless
[18:13]	matey	thats the general trajectory of sbcs
[18:14]	matey	based on the name i expect the "pico" to be significantly less powerful than the pi, but i dont know that
[18:14]	matey	but if theyre riffing on "pi" they did it wrong
[18:14]	matey	but maybe it actually is a "rival" to the pi
[18:14]	matey	of course im excited about risc-v
[18:14]	matey	so i perk up slightly when i see that
[18:14]	matey	but i dont get my hopes up too high
[18:15]	matey	pico is better than "pipsqueak"
[18:15]	matey	which would be an okay name if its meant to rival the pi zero
[18:17]	matey	when the raspberry pi starts to draw too much power and doesnt give a reasonable amount of processing in return, we can call it the "raspberry pig"
[18:18]	matey	people who know an sbc is a better deal than traditional boards are raspberry pilled
[18:18]	matey	of course id never use that term in an article or any serious context
[18:19]	matey	as the raspberry is a raspberry pile-- of shit
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[18:19]	psydroid2	lol
[18:20]	matey	and the person who made the pi and defends all the terrible things hes allowed to be done to it
[18:20]	matey	is a raspberry PIece of shit
[18:21]	matey	but thats what people take the raspberry piss out of him
[18:22]	matey	also known as a raspberry berate
[18:22]	matey	the kind you find on a second rate forum
[18:23]	TR News	"Today we'll talk about the Gemini server that powers this capsule and runs on an ESP32 development board. (All code is simplified and some uninteresting parts are omitted.)" gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/behind-the-scenes.gmi
[18:30]	IPFS	() Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-29.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-30.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi
[18:30]	matey	ergonomic 3d mouse design:
[18:30]	matey	basic 2 button mouse, but instead of a scroll wheel
[18:31]	matey	theres a curved, narrow touchpad
[18:31]	matey	it only cares about one axis of movement
[18:31]	matey	forward and back, used for zooming or up/down
[18:32]	matey	you could use a scrollwheel the same way-- but i wouldnt prefer it
[18:32]	matey	so left/right forward/back with the mouse as usual
[18:32]	matey	plus the "scrollpad" for up/down
[18:33]	matey	on a plane, you have pedals, yoke rotation and yoke forward/back to navigate 3d
[18:34]	matey	forward/back for pitch, rotation for roll, and pedals for yaw
[18:39]	TR News	COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/england-covid-cases/
[18:39]	TR Bot	Blog Archive COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%)
[18:39]	MinceR	i got a mouse with an optical sensor on top for scrolling, but they got the sensitivity wrong
[18:40]	MinceR	and it provided no haptic feedback
[18:40]	MinceR	so it didn't work out for me
[18:40]	matey	touchpad always provided enough tactile feedback for me
[18:40]	matey	but if you make it too smooth it doesnt
[18:41]	MinceR	it doesn't click when it sends a scroll event
[18:41]	matey	the sensitivity should be adjustable, but in practice some mice seem more adjustable than others
[18:42]	matey	in this context its analogous to moving the mouse in 4 directions, plus one more axis
[18:42]	matey	my mouse doesnt click when i move it
[18:42]	matey	but i suppose for scrolling-- that would annoy you
[18:42]	matey	not me, but-- some people
[18:42]	matey	fwiw my mouse DOES give feedback when i scroll
[18:43]	matey	also worth considering is this
[18:43]	matey	in the turntable dj community there is a great debate about the pitch slider
[18:43]	matey	some people like the stop in the middle, so its easy to find "0
[18:44]	matey	but a lot of people fucking hate it, because it makes the transition from < 0 to > 0 less smooth
[18:44]	matey	so people will go as far as replacing the slider with the stop to a slider without one
[18:44]	matey	removing it from the turntable and replacing it with the other type
[18:45]	matey	 because everything they do depends on the behaviour of that slider
[18:45]	matey	whether it provides feedback at 0-- or doesnt
[18:45]	matey	depending on their preference
[18:46]	MinceR	perhaps it could be switchable via an electromagnet
[18:46]	MinceR	or a motor
[18:46]	matey	you could really put a simple mechanical switch in the middle
[18:46]	matey	slide towards the slider, it stops slghtly at 0
[18:47]	matey	slide it away from the slider, its perfectly smooth
[18:47]	MinceR	:>
[18:47]	matey	the thing is, the designers didnt think anyone would care
[18:47]	matey	or they assumed people would want something, when not everyone did
[18:47]	MinceR	they might not want switches between the sliders
[18:48]	matey	on the model in question theres only one slider
[18:48]	matey	the pitch slider
[18:48]	matey	these are real turntables-- not cdjs
[18:48]	MinceR	ic
[18:48]	matey	i like cdjs
[18:48]	matey	i respect people can that mix on real turntables
[18:48]	matey	its a lot more work, and you have to constantly compensate for things
[18:48]	MinceR	i prefer composing in a tracker
[18:48]	matey	me too
[18:49]	matey	but i cant imagine doing some of the things in a tracker that these guys do on the spot
[18:49]	matey	so ive watched a bunch of tutorials to understand the techniques better
[18:49]	matey	who knows, maybe someday ill design a better tracker based on those techniques
[18:49]	matey	either way i wanted to understand how its done
[18:50]	matey	at least at a beginner level
[18:50]	matey	ive watched vinyl mixing tutorials too 
[18:50]	matey	just keeping the beats matched is work
[18:51]	matey	a lot of people who used to do vinyl, and still can, have settled into the convenience of cdj mixing
[18:51]	matey	its still an art form, only now its not as tedious and you can focus on having fun wih the beats
[18:51]	matey	and what to mix next
[18:52]	matey	theres a thing called groove riding in vinyl mixing
[18:52]	matey	its a smoother way to match beats
[18:53]	matey	you can always match by slowing the record down with a finger on the middle
[18:53]	matey	or speed it up by moving the other way
[18:53]	matey	groove riding is when you change the speed with the slider (this also changes the pitch)
[18:54]	matey	but you do it in small increments so the record gets synced as you move the slider back and forth
[18:54]	matey	its crazy, but once you see it done it makes sense
[18:54]	matey	you do it because its more subtle (in the final production) than the manual record adjustments
[18:55]	matey	and unlike with a cdj the beats get unmatched again
[18:55]	matey	or it happens sooner
[18:55]	MinceR	https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/solved
[18:55]	TR Bot	 Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Solved
[18:56]	matey	of course after you learn these techniques they have to be practiced to be useful
[18:56]	matey	i dont have any gear like that, so its just interesting
[18:57]	matey	i did make a text file with queue points though :) this is a cdj technique
[18:57]	matey	so basically the text file stops mplayer and moves to a specific part of the song
[18:57]	matey	and plays there
[18:57]	matey	you can rebuild (or mix) two songs that way
[18:57]	matey	maybe not as well as you could with a cdj, but its still fun 
[18:58]	matey	and you dont edit the song at all
[18:58]	matey	you just play it back creatively
[18:59]	IPFS	IPFS downstream 60 minutes average 34.28 k/sec., IPFS upstream 5.78 average k/sec., average swarm size 0
[18:59]	matey	id love to make a "tracker" that just uses scripts and entire songs and mplayer
[18:59]	matey	the thing is, mplayer cant queue properly on mp4, probably not on mp3 either
[18:59]	matey	you have to at least decompress to wav (or maybe mp3 works, but i dont think it does)
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[19:00]	matey	i cant get mplayer to go to a specific second on video-- maybe every 3-4 seconds but i want 1/2 1/4 1/8 seconds (preferably 1/100)
[19:00]	matey	for wav it is more accomodating
[19:00]	matey	maybe theres a tweak with "frames" that makes it more suitable, im no expert on mplayer options
[19:01]	matey	yesterday i watched a video that only had audio on the left, but its "stereo"-- theres an -af tweak for that
[19:01]	thisideup	mplayer FTW
[19:03]	thisideup	why not ffplay?
[19:03]	matey	i dont have any mp3s on here, have a couple of m4as
[19:04]	matey	on m4a i think mplayer can queue to at least half seconds (its hard to test finer than that, but i could)
[19:04]	thisideup	i mean the more cumbersom the better
[19:04]	matey	so maybe converting to wav isnt needed
[19:05]	thisideup	ffplay doesnt need converting
[19:07]	thisideup	ffplay -h doesnt even fit term buffer
[19:07]	thisideup	must be the right choice for you
[19:08]	thisideup	theres nothing it cant do
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[19:17]	TR News	Vim 9.0 Released, Introduces the New Vim9 Scripting Language http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166600#comment-34200
[19:17]	TR Bot	 Vim 9.0 : vim online | Tux Machines
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[19:18]	TR Bot	 Why Kenyans should say no to biometrics for SIM card registry - Access Now
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[19:24]	TR News	What would it be like to suffer a cyberattack event, that literally closes down an entire business? That's exactly what happened to United Structures of America, a steel manufacturing company. In this episode, Jay and Joao discuss what happened, and some of the lessons learned that should cause..." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=akchEAs423k
[19:24]	TR Bot	 Enterprise Linux Security Episode 34 - How one business lost Everything - Invidious
[19:25]	TR News	So, You Think You Can Design A 20 Exaflops Supercomputer? https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/06/30/so-you-think-you-can-design-a-20-exaflops-supercomputer/ Source: nextplatform
[19:25]	TR Bot	 So, You Think You Can Design A 20 Exaflops Supercomputer?
[19:26]	TR News	Microsoft is down even further, as usual https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2022/06/30/june-2022-web-server-survey.html
[19:26]	TR Bot	 June 2022 Web Server Survey | Netcraft News
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[19:28]	TR News	CVSS v3 9.8 (out of 10!!). But it's not "Open Source", so the so-called 'media' will pretend not to see it https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-01
[19:28]	TR Bot	 Exemys RME1 | CISA
[19:29]	TR News	Exploitable remotely https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-02 low entropy... while our governments TRY TO MANDATE LOW ENTROPY!!!
[19:29]	TR Bot	 Yokogawa Wide Area Communication Router | CISA
[19:30]	TR News	"The affected product is vulnerable by using hard-coded credentials in the FTP service, which is disabled by default." https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-03
[19:30]	TR Bot	 Emerson DeltaV Distributed Control System | CISA
[19:31]	TR News	Proprietary software "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity/public exploits are available" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-181-04
[19:31]	TR Bot	 Distributed Data Systems WebHMI | CISA
[19:32]	TR News	"Unzip the downloaded file (zip format). Execute the file setup.exe located in the folder unzipped and install it." Gee, do I need to install WINE... or, wait... this is MICROSOFT WINDOWS https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-21-350-05
[19:32]	TR Bot	 Mitsubishi Electric FA Engineering Software (Update A) | CISA
[19:32]	TR News	Proprietary again: "Exploitable remotely/low attack complexity" https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/ICSA-15-258-02
[19:32]	TR Bot	 CODESYS Gateway Server (Update A) | CISA
[19:33]	TR News	Thousands of articles saying "Open Source"... something "security" issue. No such articles about proprietary software... as if it is collectively beyond scrutiny
[19:35]	TR News	"Notice how theyre phasing out bi-weekly updates (used to be daily), just when the problem gets more severe and urgent" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/covid-19-patients-in-hospital/
[19:35]	TR Bot	Blog Archive Going Increasingly Dark (Intransparent) About COVID-19 Data Just When Its Surging at Astounding Rates (Worst Summer on Record)
[19:37]	TR News	"UK-wide COVID-19 patients in hospital" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/30/england-covid-cases/
[19:37]	TR Bot	Blog Archive COVID-19 in England: Cases Up 35.1% This Past Week (Deaths Up 30.1%, Hospitalisations Up 33.4%)
[19:39]	TR News	"Really pleased to see so much work from the team, and the wider community released as Collabora Online 22.05 - a first cut of our next round of development work around the next-generation Collabora Online - quicker, slicker, better, prettier and more." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog/2022-06-29.html
[19:39]	TR Bot	 Stuff Michael Meeks is doing
[19:40]	MinceR	(cat) (audio:unimportant) https://i.imgur.com/zh9NJT6.mp4
[19:42]	TR News	Deluge BitTorrent Client 2.1.0 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/06/deluge-bittorrent-client-2-1-0-released/ Source: UbuntuHandbook | FreeSW | GNU | Linux
[19:42]	TR Bot	 Deluge BitTorrent Client 2.1.0 Released! How to Install in Ubuntu | UbuntuHandbook
[19:45]	TR News	"I detailed today an old sketch to test something technical about painting (and also to keep beta testing Krita 5.1beta1). After the Rendez Vous de la BD in Amiens Festival, I saw hundreds of comic styles but rarely painterly style." https://www.davidrevoy.com/article917/asleep
[19:45]	TR Bot	 Asleep - David Revoy
[19:46]	TR News	Thunderbirds huge update and Googles new antitrust issues - Linux and open source news - Invidious https://yewtu.be/watch?v=GU7aBOJElRA Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia
[19:46]	TR Bot	 Thunderbird's huge update and Google's new antitrust issues - Linux and open source news - Invidious
[19:47]	TR News	KaOS 2022.06 overview | KaOS is an independent distribution focused on Qt and KDE. - Invidious <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://yewtu.be/watch?v=9qT8wm_k6o4"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a>
[19:47]	TR Bot	 KaOS 2022.06 overview | KaOS is an independent distribution focused on Qt and KDE. - Invidious
[19:48]	TR News	Todays #HowTos | #UNIX Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166684
[19:48]	TR Bot	 today's howtos | Tux Machines
[19:56]	TR News	Published 10 Minutes Ago: IRCNow by Aaron Lin | Techrights http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/ircnow-by-aaron-lin/ | Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/30/ircnow-by-aaron-lin/
[19:56]	TR Bot	 Published 10 Minutes Ago: IRCNow by Aaron Lin | Techrights
[19:59]	TR News	Should stop Windows then, as that's by far the biggest ransomware magnet https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/30/stopransomware-medusalocker
[19:59]	TR Bot	 #StopRansomware: MedusaLocker | CISA
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[20:00]	TR News	"Fedora gets serious about its server editions, our thoughts on Valve's increased Steam Deck production, and the surprising results of booting Linux on the Apple M2 SoC." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/149077/linux-action-news-247/
[20:01]	TR Bot	 Linux Action News 247 | Jupiter Broadcasting
[20:04]	TR News	IRCNow by Aaron Lin was uploaded moments ago. Of the users, by the users, for the users http://techrights.org/2022/06/30/ircnow-by-aaron-lin/
[20:06]	TR News	Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, KaOS 2022.06, and More Tux Machines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/166685
[20:06]	TR Bot	 Audiocasts/Shows: Linux Action News, KaOS 2022.06, and More | Tux Machines
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[22:19]	matey	/me looks around for nazis
[22:19]	matey	well, thats plural, but close enough for jazz
[22:20]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=INt48fr_ZYc
[22:20]	TR Bot	 STAN FREBERG - Heartbreak Hotel (1956) - Invidious
[22:20]	matey	ve must exTERMinate zee plud plus
[22:21]	matey	ve ah here to zolve zee plus plus prrrrrrrrroblem!
[22:21]	matey	vould you like un horderve?
[22:22]	matey	horderves, vhich vill be obeyed at all timez!
[22:22]	matey	/me obeys zee little coldcuts on crrrrrrrrrackerz
[22:22]	matey	ja vhol!
[22:23]	matey	vhen ve hav exterminated zee plus plus
[22:24]	matey	ve vill exterminate zee distro und vinning gnu und leenux for zee red hat, ja?
[22:25]	matey	compile compile compile, verk verk verk, und no talk of ziss herr stallman, he is a nasty jew
[22:25]	matey	he causes so much trrrrouble
[22:25]	matey	ve vill neutralize zee problem!
[22:26]	matey	heil vatson!
[22:27]	matey	vatson ist ibm! und ibm ist godt!
[22:27]	matey	"vait, vait, vait! godt or godt?"
[22:27]	matey	"ja!"
[22:28]	matey	"zee furrrrrst vone!"
[22:30]	matey	gnu ist recursung acronymg ja
[22:30]	matey	meaning "gnu ist nicht linux!"
[22:30]	matey	herr torvalds disagreez
[22:30]	matey	he says, NEIN! LEENUX IST GNU!
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[22:31]	matey	but ve know better, ja?
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[22:31]	matey	zilence, bitte!
[22:32]	matey	herr gates ist speakung
[22:32]	matey	sprechen!
[22:32]	matey	also sprechen gatesthustra
[22:33]	matey	dum!
[22:33]	matey	DUM!
[22:33]	matey	DUMMMMMMMM!
[22:33]	matey	dum dum dum DUM! DUMDUM!
[22:33]	psydruid	Lennarts Endlsung!
[22:33]	matey	hehehehehehehehe
[22:34]	matey	but theres a nuance!
[22:34]	matey	/me falls over
[22:34]	matey	 XD
[22:35]	matey	one the one hand, the world is run by idiots and thats fucking tragic
[22:35]	matey	on the other hand, they will die horribly
[22:35]	matey	and thats hilarious
[22:37]	psydruid	but we will also die without enjoying the hilarity of this tragedy
[22:37]	matey	no no no
[22:38]	matey	first of all, and very importantly
[22:38]	matey	some of us will (probably) survive
[22:38]	matey	god has made it very clear that im not wanted
[22:38]	matey	and the devil feels exactly the same
[22:38]	matey	i cant be the only one
[22:38]	matey	but also
[22:39]	matey	we will, are, DO, enjoy the hilarity
[22:39]	matey	thats half the bloody point
[22:39]	matey	but for those who are just too serious to laugh
[22:39]	matey	dont despair
[22:39]	matey	its going to get a fuck of a lot worse before it gets better
[22:40]	matey	it does get better
[22:40]	matey	https://yewtu.be/search?q=it%20does%20get%20better
[22:40]	TR Bot	 it does get better - Invidious
[22:41]	matey	 i cant be the only one <- some of us are just too much trouble, you knoe
[22:42]	matey	"look at these two crafty buggers!"-- ben
[22:43]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI
[22:43]	TR Bot	 "Shia LaBeouf" Live - Rob Cantor - Invidious
[22:44]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=siuOtzkI8vQ
[22:44]	TR Bot	 Tom Cruise Original VS Parody Interview - Invidious
[22:45]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5RYY0hwHIRw
[22:45]	TR Bot	 Sia - Elastic Heart (lyrics) - Invidious
[22:46]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Hy8kmNEo1i8
[22:46]	TR Bot	 Scatman (ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop) Official Video HD - Scatman John - Invidious
[22:47]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UeoYqP_2irI
[22:47]	TR Bot	 The Worst Fisherwoman On The Black Sea! - Invidious
[22:48]	matey	the ship computer DID get a lot cuter when he became a woman
[22:51]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vLm6oTCFcxQ
[22:51]	TR Bot	 Red Dwarf - White Hole: Genius Holly & Talkie Toaster - Invidious
[22:55]		*psydruid has been losing touch with the Anglophone music world for the past 15 years
[22:55]	matey	ACTION has been losing touch with the Anglophone music world for the past 15 years <- thats alright
[22:56]	matey	truth be told, 
[22:56]	matey	(this is a big secret)
[22:56]	matey	music doesnt have WORDS
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[22:56]	matey	they just bolt them on as an afterthought
[22:56]	matey	 :)
[22:57]	psydruid	I listen to plenty of music with lyrics in languages I don't understand
[22:57]	matey	https://yewtu.be/search?q=bach+dum+dum+dum+dum+dumdumdumdumd
[22:57]	TR Bot	 bach dum dum dum dum dumdumdum - Invidious
[22:57]	matey	whats creepy is youtube knew what i mean
[22:57]	psydruid	this is apparently a big barrier for many people to cross
[22:57]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
[22:57]	matey	Beethoven's 5th Symphony
[22:57]	TR Bot	 Beethoven's 5th Symphony - Invidious
[22:58]	matey	AND IT WAS CORRECT
[22:58]	matey	this qualifies as research, i expect the proper grant in the morning
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[22:59]	matey	(seriously i looked up dum dum dum dum dumdumdumdum and youtube gave the song i was looking for)
[22:59]	matey	hey hi WORKS (*cough* occasionally)
[22:59]	matey	/me does finger batons
● Jun 30
[23:00]	matey	NEXT UP: trying to drive with a comp-YOO-tah!
[23:00]	psydruid	lol
[23:01]	matey	my wife used to say this (im not kidding)
[23:01]	matey	vroom vroom VROOM!
[23:01]	matey	you think id marry someone who wasnt cute?
[23:01]	matey	(and a dork)
[23:01]	matey	she was making fun of idiots with cars
[23:01]	matey	like elon
[23:01]	matey	(not specifically)
[23:02]	matey	these days it seems like only idiots have cars
[23:02]	matey	i think some people probably need them, in all fairness
[23:02]	matey	(but it does seem that way)
[23:02]	matey	beethoven was pretty good for a cis white dude
[23:03]	matey	"
[23:03]	matey	"but he was german!"
[23:03]	matey	"well no ones perfect"
[23:03]	matey	marx was german, so was marlene
[23:03]	matey	i never married marlene, its one of my greatest regrets
[23:05]	matey	6:21 now hes just showing off!
[23:05]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI
[23:05]	TR Bot	 Beethoven's 5th Symphony - Invidious
[23:05]	matey	not bad for a deaf composer
[23:07]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zliasEkWx0M
[23:07]	TR Bot	 Skrillex, Starrah & Four Tet - Butterflies (Official Music Video) - Invidious
[23:09]	matey	someone in here told me skillex is a cia operative or something?
[23:09]	matey	anything is possible i suppose
[23:11]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=lwCy6yn4SDY
[23:11]	TR Bot	 Coffee & Cigarettes - Delirium - Bill Murray with RZA & GZA - Invidious
[23:12]	matey	DAMN, BILL MURRAY!
[23:13]	psydruid	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4ypZ3J_Jw
[23:13]	TR Bot	https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=X_4ypZ3J_Jw
[23:13]	TR Bot	timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=X_4ypZ3J_Jw )
[23:14]	matey	"it used to make me dream faster"
[23:14]	matey	"thats how my dreams were... just whizzin by"
[23:15]	matey	nicotine messes with your central nervous system
[23:15]	matey	your respertorial system...
[23:16]	matey	try oven cleaner
[23:18]	matey	EARLY david walliams https://yewtu.be/watch?v=1ssE8sxe0B4
[23:18]	TR Bot	 Vulva's Art Show | Spaced | Dead Parrot - Invidious
[23:18]	matey	well, i think it was after little britain began actualllllly
[23:19]	matey	here in the town of KHHLANDOOEY BREVEY (i dunno, its welsh) is wooly woofter herr goebbels
[23:20]	matey	"yes, we have *** times, there was a very inforrrrmative article on *******"
[23:20]	psydruid	waffle ss
[23:20]	matey	pancake ss
[23:21]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UtlaTNI1TaU
[23:21]	TR Bot	 Parry Gripp Do You Like Waffles? [Official Video] - Invidious
[23:22]	matey	i like that people are remixing this to make it even MORE ridiculous
[23:24]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mYHZhaLsZI4
[23:24]	TR Bot	 "GBI" TOWA TEI - Invidious
[23:24]	XRevan86	https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/30/a78170
[23:24]	TR Bot	 Moscow Summons U.K. Envoy Over Johnsons Putin Remarks: Statement - The Moscow Times
[23:25]	matey	personally i like the idea of kanji in a "german" font
[23:25]	matey	i mean what the hell is that?
[23:26]	matey	german kanji?
[23:26]	psydruid	is that Kylie Minogue or some lookalike?
[23:26]	matey	no its really her
[23:26]	matey	and i bought the album years before i knew it was her
[23:26]	matey	because i like kieren kirby
[23:26]	matey	and i saw this video (years later) and i was like
[23:27]	matey	wtf is that kylie?
[23:28]	matey	first km video i ever saw: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE
[23:28]	TR Bot	 Kylie Minogue - Can't Get You Out Of My Head (Official Video) - Invidious
[23:28]	matey	first place i saw it: uni cafeteria
[23:28]	matey	i didnt go to that one
[23:28]	matey	it was in the same city
[23:28]	psydruid	I saw some before that
[23:28]	matey	earlier this year i heard from the person i met there
[23:28]	matey	oh there are lots but i didnt see them
[23:28]	matey	i didnt have cable back then, and youtube didnt exist yet
[23:28]	psydruid	one with Nick Cave
[23:29]	matey	she talented, or something. no, really
[23:29]	matey	i mean, shes sexy so 
[23:29]	psydruid	and Confide In Me
[23:29]	matey	theres this dichotomy
[23:29]	psydruid	yes
[23:29]	matey	marlene was sexy too
[23:29]	matey	more than kylie
[23:30]	matey	she was the best mix of down to earth and ahead of her time
[23:32]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TZhUGoxbr-g
[23:32]	TR Bot	 "LOOK ME OVER CLOSELY" by MARLENE DIETRICH - Invidious
[23:32]	matey	jennifer saunders did a wonderful parody
[23:32]	matey	or maybe that was edith piaf
[23:33]	matey	who was basically the french marlene? idk
[23:33]	matey	marlene was more awesome
[23:33]	matey	german women are basically pretty men
[23:33]	matey	and thats their charm 
[23:34]	matey	/me would marry marlene 1000 times
[23:35]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UW5RLpdN1kU
[23:35]	TR Bot	 Pretty - Invidious
[23:36]	matey	i knew this girl in school named kelly
[23:37]	matey	she was out of her fucking mind but i was mesmerised
[23:37]	matey	she was like samantha mathis in turn it up
[23:37]	matey	no 
[23:37]	matey	pump up the volume
[23:38]	SomeH4x0r	iirc here you normally need to wait a month or so before registering a marriage
[23:38]	SomeH4x0r	and to marry again, you need to divorce
[23:38]	matey	well marlene is dead
[23:38]	matey	and im divorced
[23:38]	matey	its an imperfect world, clearly
[23:38]	SomeH4x0r	so I doubt it is possible to marry 1000 times during one's life
[23:38]	matey	oh no youd have to die and come back
[23:39]	matey	but supposing you did, shes worth it
[23:39]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=YPAXoWxiTDo
[23:39]	TR Bot	 Marlene Dietrich, I Will Come Back, Live. - Invidious
[23:40]	matey	the sound quality
[23:40]	matey	it burns
[23:40]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=kFv3krX8m_w
[23:40]	TR Bot	 I Will Come Back Again - Invidious
[23:41]	matey	/me kicks youtube in the jubleez
[23:42]	matey	fucking piece of shit
[23:42]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=I0wdt98SzEo
[23:42]	TR Bot	 I Will Come Back Again - Invidious
[23:43]	matey	rosemary clooneys got shit!
[23:45]	matey	BERNARDO https://yewtu.be/watch?v=tKA0jcN8Mew
[23:45]	TR Bot	 "Love, You Didn't Do Right By Me" -White Christmas (HD 1080p BluRay Print) - Invidious
[23:45]	matey	(yes bing is a piece of shit on countless levels, its not about him)
[23:46]	matey	en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_papers
[23:46]	matey	 :/
[23:46]	matey	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_papers
[23:46]	TR Bot	 Pentagon Papers - Wikipedia
[23:54]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mriXncI96lw you kind of start to get the point
[23:54]	TR Bot	 Rosemary Clooney - Come On-A My House - Invidious
[23:54]	matey	james thurber you fucking bastard, what do you think youre doing
[23:57]	matey	https://yewtu.be/watch?v=seBInAPI32A
[23:57]	TR Bot	 It's a Wonderful Life - Kiss her scene - Invidious
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