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| scientes | > they could decide themselves if they wanted to use exFAT or not | Aug 30 00:47 |
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| scientes | that's not that big of a deal | Aug 30 00:47 |
| scientes | part of the way libre software works is that it don't stop people from excercising the freedoms, even if incomplete, on propriatary software | Aug 30 00:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, since SD cards do use exFAT and the FUSE driver is pretty bad (lots of CPU usage and can fuck up the entire file system and no repair tools), it would be nice to have a kernel driver that can actually handle the file system properly. | Aug 30 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know what state the Samsung driver is in. Might be merged into staging, but most distributions will end up building it because it's so widely used. | Aug 30 01:07 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127533 [https://pleroma.site/objects/60726968-eed7-4f65-ae47-7477822a6a69] | Aug 30 06:42 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Graphics: NVIDIA, Intel and Vulkan/DXVK http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127534 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e7886553-9a7a-4fdd-9570-4784d944798b] | Aug 30 06:47 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Bastian Ilsø Hougaard: GNOME Developer Documentation – The Bottom-Up Approach http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127535 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87e4d01e-e858-41bd-96d5-163ffc73e09e] | Aug 30 06:51 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events: Red Hat Summit 2020, Akademy and FSF Licensing and Compliance http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127536 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6255a84b-c6c5-4f67-819d-2a5591662b8d] | Aug 30 06:57 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/9Kp5kZI.png | Aug 30 07:31 |
| schestowitz | [23:11] <psydroid> oh, someone on #talos-workstation called you an asshat the other day for railing against .NET and Mono going as far back as last decade | Aug 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz | ibmer? | Aug 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz | IBM was not against Mono at the time | Aug 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz | I actually criticised for it | Aug 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz | TALOS people are the hardcore POWER cultists I guess | Aug 30 08:05 |
| schestowitz | who else would pay so much for a friggin' pc? | Aug 30 08:06 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Servers: Red Hat, SUSE and Storj http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127537 [https://pleroma.site/objects/663ee6bd-f867-421f-b9c2-d42f4710aac0] | Aug 30 08:18 | |
| psydroid | schestowitz, I don't know about their affiliations, it seems a bit unclear to me | Aug 30 08:28 |
| psydroid | > mono always had the massive FUD campaign against it | Aug 30 08:28 |
| psydroid | > perpetrated by the FSF (who had dotgnu, which was an utter disaster) and asshats like roy scheistowitz (who tried to cancel a debian developer for packaging mono) | Aug 30 08:29 |
| schestowitz | lol!!! | Aug 30 08:29 |
| schestowitz | he's not a debian dveloper!!!!! | Aug 30 08:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 30 08:29 |
| schestowitz | He's a Microsoft employee!! | Aug 30 08:29 |
| schestowitz | Jo Shields | Aug 30 08:30 |
| schestowitz | and we were right about him all along | Aug 30 08:30 |
| schestowitz | later he said he needed mental counsellings | Aug 30 08:30 |
| schestowitz | for being called out on it | Aug 30 08:30 |
| psydroid | > me and the mono guys who do ppc in spare time try to keep things in order but i'm not like awilfox/JSharp level ppc assembly starer or mono JIT internals expert here (even if in my occasional bursts of activity i get better) | Aug 30 08:31 |
| psydroid | > anyways this rant doubles as a call for help for more eyes on ppc64 | Aug 30 08:37 |
| psydroid | krbtgt is the nick of this person on that channel | Aug 30 08:37 |
| psydroid | and nope, I am not going to contribute to MS technology now or ever in the future | Aug 30 08:38 |
| psydroid | maybe they could hire some developers for that | Aug 30 08:38 |
| schestowitz | no need | Aug 30 08:40 |
| schestowitz | red hat hires them | Aug 30 08:40 |
| schestowitz | even msft managers | Aug 30 08:40 |
| schestowitz | red hat isn't quite trustworthy anymore | Aug 30 08:40 |
| psydroid | yeah, so if there are people who infiltrate our own communities and start spreading FUD, it's utterly important to be aware of it and act accordingly, even if that means observing them in silence to see what their next moves are | Aug 30 08:41 |
| schestowitz | time of flux | Aug 30 08:41 |
| schestowitz | choose your allies carefully | Aug 30 08:41 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I will write about it later | Aug 30 08:41 |
| schestowitz | read, in the mean time https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/corporate-influence.71876/page-2#post-436148 | Aug 30 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.freebsd.org | Corporate Influence | Page 2 | The FreeBSD Forums | Aug 30 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | it's new | Aug 30 08:41 |
| schestowitz | someone sent it to me an hour ago | Aug 30 08:41 |
| psydroid | I will do so | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | (tamper warning)... | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> > x | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-29/microsoft-vendors-win-a-7-6-billion-deal-for-pentagon-software | Aug 30 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Aug 30 08:42 | |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> > = | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> > x | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> > https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/29/20838634/bill-gates-netflix-documentary-series-davis-guggenheim-microsoft | Aug 30 08:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates’ life explored in new Netflix documentary - The Verge | Aug 30 08:42 | |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> > # yet another hagiography for that criminal dropout | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | [08:39] <schestowitz> Those last two links achieve nothing but maladjust my blood pressure :-) and it's not even 9am yet. | Aug 30 08:42 |
| schestowitz | The #pentagon has just injected billions of dollars into #microsoft again. It's an imperialistic company, strategic to the US Empire with its back doors in everything. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Aug 30 08:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Aug 30 08:44 | |
| psydroid | I have never used any Red Hat operating system since Red Hat 8/9 and especially Fedora Core 1 proved to be a disaster on the hardware I had at the time | Aug 30 08:46 |
| schestowitz | >>> Spam about exfat omitted. | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | >> I will write about it shortly. | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > What I read online so far makes it look like being about injecting M$ | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > products and software patents into the kernel. That increases the | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > likelihood of other patent vectors like Mono being used against FOSS. | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > If M$ were serious about supporting FOSS, it would do just that: add | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | > support for EXT4 and OpenZFS and promote both over exfat and NTFS. | Aug 30 08:49 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: same here | Aug 30 08:50 |
| schestowitz | my first was redhat in 2000 | Aug 30 08:50 |
| psydroid | I am increasingly feeling uneasy with the whole free software movement as it currently works. Too much shilling, infiltration and whitewashing is going on to the point I am not sure I even want to work with or on any of these projects. It's like parasites that decided to cling to a host to destroy it from the inside out until nothing of value is left before jumping onto a new one. | Aug 30 08:54 |
| psydroid | and it's not just M$, Google is also making it very hard to work with their code and is quite hostile towards contributors on certain combinations of architectures and operating systems, most likely on purpose | Aug 30 08:57 |
| MinceR | proprietary software is even worse though | Aug 30 08:58 |
| schestowitz | drm, spying etc. | Aug 30 08:58 |
| schestowitz | although FOSS too does spying these days | Aug 30 08:58 |
| schestowitz | access to source is not enough for Software Freedom anymore | Aug 30 08:58 |
| MinceR | also software not being developed to be useful but just to satisfy checklists | Aug 30 08:58 |
| MinceR | by people who don't use it | Aug 30 08:59 |
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| psydroid | I am not talking about proprietary software, as I don't like it and try to use as little of it as possible. But these days also free software looks more and more like a battle zone, whereas before it seemed to be mostly a labour of love (outside of the corporate Linux kernel community). Now I don't even know where you can go without running into the same issues with the same people, it's as if they're all over the place. | Aug 30 09:06 |
| psydroid | personally I would rather work on something in my spare time that has no ties to and no chance of getting compromised by deceptive corporations that try to hi-jack basically a whole movement and try to rebrand it with the meaningless and business-friendly term of open source | Aug 30 09:09 |
| schestowitz | I know the feeling | Aug 30 09:11 |
| psydroid | I've been thinking of writing a web browser from scratch that has no ties to Mozilla, Google, M$, Apple or any of the other companies that have been trying to hi-jack the web. But my knowledge in many parts is lacking and it would be a huge undertaking. | Aug 30 09:11 |
| schestowitz | So you need to know what to avoid | Aug 30 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Python is the latest attack target | Aug 30 09:11 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft already compromised everything under apache/ASF | Aug 30 09:12 |
| schestowitz | developers aren't happy about it | Aug 30 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Forget about Google anything, or GAFAM... | Aug 30 09:12 |
| schestowitz | GNU seems safe | Aug 30 09:12 |
| schestowitz | Debian managed to get rid of some nuisance people, but not systemd | Aug 30 09:12 |
| psydroid | yes, I am not responding to many recruiters with various job offers because I might have to compromise on my principles | Aug 30 09:12 |
| schestowitz | right | Aug 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz | I know that feeling too | Aug 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz | I had battled with my employers lately | Aug 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz | over decisions to adopt some "cloud" and blob crap | Aug 30 09:13 |
| schestowitz | I have a "disciplinary" meeting next week | Aug 30 09:14 |
| schestowitz | although I suspect it's nothing directly related to my arguments over those things | Aug 30 09:14 |
| schestowitz | I'm the most senior employer, time-wise, bar the CEO/Founder | Aug 30 09:14 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: be ready to make >small< compromises | Aug 30 09:14 |
| schestowitz | if optimize everythig you'll never be happy - Don Knuth | Aug 30 09:15 |
| psydroid | I did it before in the corporate world and it didn't make me feel comfortable and didn't bring me any advantage whatsoever except for the monetary aspect, which is also an ephemeral thing | Aug 30 09:16 |
| psydroid | schestowitz, I will keep that in mind | Aug 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | I'll drop some text here, as it's related and 2 minutes old: | Aug 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | ___ | Aug 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | >>> # yet another hagiography for that criminal dropout | Aug 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | >> There's this thing I call "emotional reaction". | Aug 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 30 09:17 |
| schestowitz | >> Sometimes I explain to Rianne that is feels similar to forgetting to do | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> something. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> Not sure why. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> It's like I want to say something but cannot. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> xxxx used to send me depressing UPC/EPO messages, which turned out to | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> be exaggerations anyway. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > Of course. I try to minimize the amount of those sent. In this case, | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > because of the size of the audience whatever bullshit that documentary | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > spews will be difficult to debunk. Bill's reputation management has | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > been able to skew perceptions over a longer period of time. Looking at | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > factual articles from 20 years which stick to the facts available today | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > one would notice that they would be categorized as 'rabid | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > anti-microsoft' these days. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> At one point I started classifying things I get told or read "emotional" | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> to highlight it's just counter-productive to the train of thought. But | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> not my own fault... | Aug 30 09:18 |
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| schestowitz | > Yes, necessary to step back. Or as one friend used to say, 'be Zen | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > about it'. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> This is, in part, why I stopped covering Gates Fdn. crap. Too much lying | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> to tolerate. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > Again, Netflix coverage means lying to a) a whole new audience, which is | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > also at the same time b) a whole new generation | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> Today I'll do articles about LF/MSFT and EPO/UPC. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | >> I also have a major ILO-AT story on the way. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent, both of those are much higher priority. I still wonder why | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > EPO is able to act outside of European laws so egregiously for so many | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | > years still. | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | ___ | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | [09:16] <psydroid> I did it before in the corporate world and it didn't make me feel comfortable and didn't bring me any advantage whatsoever except for the monetary aspect, which is also an ephemeral thing | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | eventually you will die, so the money in excess doesn't have much real worth | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | we don't live in agricultural societies where we can starve in the streets | Aug 30 09:18 |
| schestowitz | also, if you're Dutch, there are social security programmes and family to fall back on (unless you become drug addict) | Aug 30 09:19 |
| schestowitz | the above is relevant for the "zen" part | Aug 30 09:19 |
| schestowitz | I used to get more emotional about the news | Aug 30 09:19 |
| schestowitz | Now I take a break, change topic, come back to it later when the emotional aspect wears out. Same at work, if having to deal with nuisance clients... | Aug 30 09:20 |
| schestowitz | RMS would struggle to find an employer, but he's in retirement age already and won't need to be in that position as he receives a salary from his Foundation with its special IRS status | Aug 30 09:20 |
| schestowitz | which I suppose includes a pension | Aug 30 09:21 |
| schestowitz | I think I need to work another 10 years to be safe financially, assuming very frugal liestyle. Then I don't have to 'sell' my time to nuisance companies | Aug 30 09:21 |
| schestowitz | If only society rewarded people, financially, for their contributions to society rather than to "the economy" (i.e. the rich and powerful) | Aug 30 09:22 |
| psydroid | I am going to have to find a new full-time job soon and make some drastic changes in my life and put my studies on the back burner, but at least I have enjoyed the past few years of my life immensely where I learned things I couldn't or didn't for a long time and came back to the things I am truly passionate about | Aug 30 09:22 |
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| schestowitz | money isn't happeiness anyway | Aug 30 09:23 |
| schestowitz | unless lack of it means hunger, cold (no shelter) and illness | Aug 30 09:23 |
| schestowitz | if you have health coverage and social programmes, money and comfort aren't even correlated either. It's just boiling down to social "status" or "class". | Aug 30 09:24 |
| schestowitz | (problem is, in racist brexit Britain even our social programmes are now at risk) | Aug 30 09:24 |
| psydroid | it never was for me and never will be, but I will make sure to get enough of it to take care of myself and eventually help others | Aug 30 09:25 |
| psydroid | I am also considering moving again, if that's what it takes to find a new job | Aug 30 09:25 |
| psydroid | https://dutchreview.com/dutch-news/discrimination-in-the-job-market-the-dutch-government-is-cracking-down/ | Aug 30 09:26 |
| schestowitz | some countries lack tech skills | Aug 30 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Discrimination in the Job Market: the Dutch government is cracking down – DutchReview | Aug 30 09:26 | |
| schestowitz | but salaries there are very low | Aug 30 09:26 |
| psydroid | because of things like this | Aug 30 09:26 |
| schestowitz | and you can die from something simple like mosquitoes and dog bites | Aug 30 09:26 |
| psydroid | I lived and worked in Poland for a year and a half | Aug 30 09:27 |
| schestowitz | did you see the Dutch EPO job? | Aug 30 09:27 |
| psydroid | it was a good learning experience but I wouldn't do it again at my curent age | Aug 30 09:27 |
| psydroid | no, I didn't | Aug 30 09:27 |
| schestowitz | Article the other day: http://techrights.org/2019/08/21/epo-modern-slavery/ | Aug 30 09:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: António Campinos’ European Patent Office Redefines Modern Slavery in the Heart of Europe in 2019 | Techrights | Aug 30 09:27 | |
| schestowitz | Screenshots (in Dutch) http://techrights.org/2019/08/22/no-epostaff4rights/ | Aug 30 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No More Rights for EPO Staff? | Techrights | Aug 30 09:28 | |
| schestowitz | 800 euros a week | Aug 30 09:28 |
| schestowitz | sorry, a MONTH | Aug 30 09:28 |
| schestowitz | for a tech job | Aug 30 09:28 |
| schestowitz | in Dutch metro!! | Aug 30 09:28 |
| psydroid | I live in that metro! | Aug 30 09:31 |
| psydroid | but that's just peanuts | Aug 30 09:31 |
| psydroid | and I wonder how they can even find anyone to do that job | Aug 30 09:31 |
| psydroid | you might as well be looking for interns or homeless people in the streets | Aug 30 09:32 |
| psydroid | I mean, that's not even a living wage in Western Europe | Aug 30 09:32 |
| schestowitz | ha | Aug 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz | I might quite that some day | Aug 30 09:34 |
| schestowitz | EPO is a symptom of bigger issues and seeing how EPO abuses aren't being addressed, one has to wonder... | Aug 30 09:35 |
| psydroid | I also lived and worked in Dublin in moderately paid jobs | Aug 30 09:37 |
| psydroid | but seeing how housing prices kept creeping up and how you don't have any real security even if you pay your rent on time, I decided to get out of there while I still could | Aug 30 09:38 |
| psydroid | some colleagues got stuck with mortgages that meant they didn't even have the money to pay for a broadband connection at home | Aug 30 09:39 |
| psydroid | you are essentially on the treadmill, forced to keep working because any other action will render you homeless or dependent | Aug 30 09:40 |
| psydroid | and that's what I truly dislike about the way companies and societies work | Aug 30 09:41 |
| psydroid | why can't they be happy with people earning enough to make a decent living while saving enough to do nice things as well | Aug 30 09:41 |
| psydroid | people will feel good in their skins and will also probably be more productive at work, if they don't have to worry about paying the bills all the time | Aug 30 09:42 |
| psydroid | so modern-day slavery indeed | Aug 30 09:46 |
| schestowitz | sorry, was away on phone (my dad called) | Aug 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz | slavery is relative | Aug 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz | but the way I see it, if I do things against my will 40 hours a week, I'm not free | Aug 30 09:53 |
| schestowitz | 10 hours? Maybe I'm OK... | Aug 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz | and there's an imposition on timing, where sleeping cycles become like curfews | Aug 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz | mortgages are a no-go | Aug 30 09:54 |
| schestowitz | RMS had some good words on cars and mortgages, I'm not sure if he ever drove | Aug 30 09:55 |
| schestowitz | I stopped driving ages ago, for lots of reasons. It's an antiquated status symbol, like "cell" "phones" were in the 1990s. | Aug 30 09:55 |
| psydroid | I was given notice to leave my apartment one month before my contract expired, just because they found some new tennant and could jack up the price by €200-€300 over the €950 I was already paying | Aug 30 09:57 |
| psydroid | with the help of my employer I moved all my stuff to storage and a colleague rented out his second apartment out to me for a month | Aug 30 09:58 |
| psydroid | I spent some time looking for a room or an apartment after that but couldn't find anything affordable or for 3-6 months | Aug 30 09:59 |
| schestowitz | that's a major source of nuisance | Aug 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | sometimes you wonder if sharing a house with family is better | Aug 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | society 'looks' down upon it because it's "not good for business" | Aug 30 10:00 |
| schestowitz | i.e for barons who own thousands of homes | Aug 30 10:00 |
| *schestowitz lived in student accommodation as long as was possible | Aug 30 10:00 | |
| psydroid | so I spent the last 6 months of my stay in Ireland sleeping at hostels and going to work, on weekends flying to and from the Netherlands and a few times staying in Cork, Galway or Donegal because it was actually cheaper that way | Aug 30 10:01 |
| psydroid | I saved a boatload of money that way, which my managers were not happy about | Aug 30 10:02 |
| schestowitz | status thing | Aug 30 10:02 |
| psydroid | but it allowed me to pay for my studies for 2 years | Aug 30 10:02 |
| schestowitz | imagine a company explaining to job applicants that workers live in hostels :-) | Aug 30 10:02 |
| psydroid | which is much more important to me, because it benefits me directly | Aug 30 10:03 |
| psydroid | yeah, it's a common thing in Dublin :) | Aug 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | living in hostels? | Aug 30 10:03 |
| psydroid | yes | Aug 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... | Aug 30 10:03 |
| schestowitz | doesn't sound too safe | Aug 30 10:03 |
| psydroid | there is just not enough housing for all workers | Aug 30 10:04 |
| schestowitz | then again, Ireland has not been historically safe. Famine and violence | Aug 30 10:04 |
| schestowitz | I was in Ireland until this past Tuesday | Aug 30 10:04 |
| schestowitz | We came back Tuesday night | Aug 30 10:04 |
| psydroid | and this is projected to be a problem for the next 50 years | Aug 30 10:04 |
| schestowitz | all those murals of RIA staff and troops make you wonder... | Aug 30 10:04 |
| schestowitz | hmm.. if there's a demand for housing, surely they can make more, UNLESS.... | Aug 30 10:05 |
| schestowitz | I saw how in some cities the slum lords lobbies against it | Aug 30 10:05 |
| psydroid | I do get inquiries to come back to work there, but I'd rather move to Germany or even better Switzerland | Aug 30 10:05 |
| schestowitz | as more housing means prices they can charge (rent) or sell for goes down | Aug 30 10:05 |
| psydroid | yes | Aug 30 10:05 |
| schestowitz | sick world | Aug 30 10:05 |
| schestowitz | sick, sick, sick | Aug 30 10:06 |
| psydroid | but you know how American interests basically own Ireland at this point | Aug 30 10:06 |
| schestowitz | let's make people sleep in the streets! Fear of homelessness is good for our "house prices".... times 1000 for the 1000 homes I own | Aug 30 10:06 |
| psydroid | that's what living in Ireland felt like to me, a preview of what life in the US would be like | Aug 30 10:07 |
| psydroid | and it was not a pretty picture for me at least | Aug 30 10:07 |
| schestowitz | Belfast also | Aug 30 10:07 |
| schestowitz | the cab driver told me so | Aug 30 10:07 |
| schestowitz | lots of the investment there comes from the US now | Aug 30 10:07 |
| psydroid | you know Ireland has a huge homelessness problem | Aug 30 10:07 |
| schestowitz | lots of money sunk in by Americans looking for RoI | Aug 30 10:07 |
| psydroid | people with jobs being homeless | Aug 30 10:08 |
| schestowitz | so obviously they can't dick around and piss these barons off | Aug 30 10:08 |
| psydroid | whole fanilies living in hotels | Aug 30 10:08 |
| schestowitz | sounds like the Amazon and Walmart issue | Aug 30 10:08 |
| psydroid | families* | Aug 30 10:08 |
| schestowitz | Workers who live in their cars | Aug 30 10:08 |
| schestowitz | not even SUVs | Aug 30 10:08 |
| psydroid | I think it's ridiculous we even think this is acceptable now, because it isn't | Aug 30 10:09 |
| schestowitz | depends | Aug 30 10:10 |
| schestowitz | it's all relative | Aug 30 10:10 |
| schestowitz | there's the "I heard that" | Aug 30 10:10 |
| schestowitz | or "it's not too uncommon" | Aug 30 10:10 |
| schestowitz | or bad things get 'normalised' | Aug 30 10:10 |
| psydroid | I visited a friend of mine in London back in 2015, I think he and his flatmate were paying £2000 for rent combined for the apartment in Ealing | Aug 30 10:12 |
| psydroid | if you earn more than enough, it's fine | Aug 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | still a waste of money | Aug 30 10:13 |
| psydroid | but if that is a huge chunk out of your income, things get tough | Aug 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | and if you want to stay in central London after work, you must save up.... a lot | Aug 30 10:13 |
| psydroid | yes | Aug 30 10:13 |
| schestowitz | imagine being "between jobs" | Aug 30 10:14 |
| schestowitz | having to apply "from the outside" just to make ends meet on severance pay | Aug 30 10:14 |
| psydroid | my time "between jobs" in Dublin lasted only for a weekend, fortunately | Aug 30 10:15 |
| schestowitz | sounds gig economy-like | Aug 30 10:15 |
| schestowitz | people being like taps you can switch on and off | Aug 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | no holiday, no proper contract, no sick live | Aug 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | people died for these labour rights | Aug 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | then there are zero-hour contracts | Aug 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | I think the US has something similar to help game/fake employment figures | Aug 30 10:16 |
| schestowitz | to avert class war that involves rich people being eaten | Aug 30 10:17 |
| psydroid | I rarely took holidays in all of my jobs, I just mostly took time off on weekends plus a day or two | Aug 30 10:17 |
| psydroid | that's why I could leave my last job two weeks before my contract expired | Aug 30 10:17 |
| schestowitz | I took 7 days off work for Sept. | Aug 30 10:17 |
| schestowitz | Which is nice, I'll be able to do lots of articles, maybe visit Wales in a few weeks | Aug 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz | holidays are important even if YOU don't NEED them | Aug 30 10:18 |
| schestowitz | some people DO actually NEED them | Aug 30 10:18 |
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| schestowitz | same for sickness, I rarely get ill myself, but know many who are ill every other month | Aug 30 10:18 |
| psydroid | I've seen lots of places in the UK, I flew from Dublin to them almost every weekend in the summer of 2015. Now I don't fly at all, but back then that was my lifeline to actually enjoy my life off work | Aug 30 10:19 |
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| psydroid | I need my holidays too actually | Aug 30 10:20 |
| schestowitz | sounds like you did not have much as a "life" tbh | Aug 30 10:20 |
| schestowitz | to some people "life" means work (for someone else), sleep, work out, eat... | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | age increases | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | you turn 40 | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | you turn 50 | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | you turn 60 | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | where's my life gone? | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | Oh, yeah, I have savings now, I can retirer | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | HEART ATTACK. Fun. | Aug 30 10:21 |
| schestowitz | *Fin. | Aug 30 10:21 |
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| psydroid | actually I did have a life, I just had trouble getting holidays approved several times because I couldn't easily be replaced | Aug 30 10:23 |
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| schestowitz | it's their responsibility, not yours | Aug 30 10:23 |
| schestowitz | That's what they pay a bunch of unqualified idiots for | Aug 30 10:23 |
| schestowitz | people who do nothing productive for the company, except paperwork | Aug 30 10:24 |
| psydroid | that's why I'm going to redo my CV and scrap lots of things | Aug 30 10:24 |
| schestowitz | are you a hardware person? | Aug 30 10:25 |
| psydroid | I don't want to be hired for "speaking all the languages in the world" | Aug 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | at one point we had some openings in our company, but not now... | Aug 30 10:25 |
| psydroid | mostly software | Aug 30 10:25 |
| schestowitz | EPO wanted polyglots | Aug 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz | now it's not hiring | Aug 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz | and when it does, it's fresh grads on low pay and no proper contract | Aug 30 10:26 |
| schestowitz | seems like the trend, the days of work security are long gone. If you have a contract, cling onto it hard | Aug 30 10:26 |
| psydroid | I'm just going to look for a decently paid software development job, I don't want to make the mistake of going into technical support again | Aug 30 10:28 |
| schestowitz | tech support is OK depending on scope | Aug 30 10:29 |
| schestowitz | if tech support means sysadmin stuff | Aug 30 10:29 |
| schestowitz | like investigation and SRE stuff | Aug 30 10:29 |
| schestowitz | but not phone stuff with angry customers | Aug 30 10:29 |
| schestowitz | a colleague left over this | Aug 30 10:29 |
| schestowitz | facing people or having them nag in real time is no fun | Aug 30 10:30 |
| psydroid | for me it was a combination of those things | Aug 30 10:30 |
| psydroid | the technical aspect was OK, I worked with Linux/Unix and Windows and databases and supported the company's ETL tool | Aug 30 10:31 |
| psydroid | but dealing with customers on the phone over what to me looked like trivial issues, made me realise that wasn't what I wanted to get stuck doing for 5-10 years | Aug 30 10:32 |
| schestowitz | definitely | Aug 30 10:33 |
| schestowitz | it also impedes your personal development | Aug 30 10:33 |
| psydroid | the job before that I did CAD/CAM handling all customers across EMEA, because I was the only person who spoke French fluently | Aug 30 10:34 |
| schestowitz | if you speak at this level, you tend to get stuck at that level | Aug 30 10:34 |
| psydroid | and the amount of abuse I got there made me depresssed | Aug 30 10:34 |
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| schestowitz | you're vulnerable to other people's mood swings and anger | Aug 30 10:35 |
| psydroid | especially because I cleaned up the mess my non-technical native French speaking colleague had left behind | Aug 30 10:35 |
| schestowitz | adrenaline travels | Aug 30 10:35 |
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| psydroid | so yes, that's why I killed whatever career I had and went back to university | Aug 30 10:37 |
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| schestowitz | psydroid: thanks for sharing your story, wife rianne reads this too on her laptop | Aug 30 10:43 |
| schestowitz | I need to get back now to writing articles in techrights | Aug 30 10:43 |
| schestowitz | speak soon | Aug 30 10:43 |
| psydroid | schestowitz, no problem, speak to you soon | Aug 30 10:44 |
| schestowitz | happy hacking | Aug 30 10:44 |
| psydroid | thanks | Aug 30 10:44 |
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| *XRevan86 is pissed | Aug 30 17:08 | |
| XRevan86 | https://zona.media/news/2019/08/30/bortko | Aug 30 17:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zona.media | Владимир Бортко снялся с выборов губернатора Петербурга | Aug 30 17:08 | |
| XRevan86 | The most viable candidate for the city mayor elections exited the "race". | Aug 30 17:08 |
| scientes | XRevan86, I was at 5800m yesterday! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misti | Aug 30 17:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Misti - Wikipedia | Aug 30 17:11 | |
| XRevan86 | As a friend of mine in the CPRF party says, he was pressured to do so. Pretty obvious. Also not the first time. | Aug 30 17:12 |
| XRevan86 | https://meduza.io/en/news/2019/08/23/communist-running-for-moscow-city-duma-withdraws-after-endorsement-from-barred-opposition-candidate | Aug 30 17:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 30 17:12 | |
| scientes | the other articles on that site are really dull | Aug 30 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | It's a news website | Aug 30 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | that regularily translates news from Russia into English | Aug 30 17:15 |
| scientes | but every article is anti-Putin | Aug 30 17:15 |
| scientes | https://meduza.io/en/shapito/2019/08/28/ready-to-propose-in-russia-you-can-hire-a-special-ops-team-to-give-you-a-hand-and-set-up-a-fake-drug-bust-for-your-beloved | Aug 30 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: What do you expect from a non-pro-Putin resource? | Aug 30 17:15 |
| scientes | hehe | Aug 30 17:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 30 17:15 | |
| XRevan86 | It's one of the *more* anti-Putin websites, that is true. | Aug 30 17:16 |
| scientes | I mean I prefer it to "balanced" journalism | Aug 30 17:16 |
| scientes | it would just be nice to have some other news in the mix | Aug 30 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Ah, well, they just don't bother with non-political news in English it seems. | Aug 30 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | mostly | Aug 30 17:17 |
| scientes | they have this one https://meduza.io/en/feature/2019/08/15/295-feet-to-save-233-lives | Aug 30 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 30 17:17 | |
| XRevan86 | There are two non-United Russia candidates left, I need to pick my favourite now. | Aug 30 17:19 |
| scientes | that doesn't sound very united /sarcasm | Aug 30 17:19 |
| scientes | *very united of you | Aug 30 17:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: It's not very united of them either, he-he | Aug 30 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: All United Russia candidates registered as independent this municipal election. | Aug 30 17:21 |
| scientes | interesting | Aug 30 17:22 |
| scientes | did you watch O, Brother, Where Art Thou? | Aug 30 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: No, didn't have much time for it. | Aug 30 17:22 |
| scientes | you can even get it from my server https://git.icu/dl/O%20Brother%2C%20Where%20Art%20Thou%20%282000%29%20%5B1080p%5D/O.Brother.Where.Art.Thou.2000.1080p.BrRip.x264.YIFY.mp4 | Aug 30 17:22 |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: No need, Shawn. | Aug 30 17:23 |
| scientes | wow, that russian plane only reached 90 meters! | Aug 30 17:23 |
| scientes | and still managed to land | Aug 30 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | Bieglov's statement on debates got famous | Aug 30 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | he said that he's the only person present who is not from a party but from the people | Aug 30 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | He's of course a member. Hilarious hypocrisy. | Aug 30 17:27 |
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| schestowitz | [17:15] <XRevan86> scientes: What do you expect from a non-pro-Putin resource? | Aug 30 17:51 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 30 17:51 |
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| schestowitz | disappointingly shallow coverage https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/08/30/microsoft-exfat-linux-exfat-specification/ | Aug 30 18:57 |
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| scientes | schestowitz, so its in staging, but Microsoft is still spouting FUD? | Aug 30 19:04 |
| scientes | what a load of bollucks | Aug 30 19:04 |
| schestowitz | see 1) http://techrights.org/2019/08/30/the-exfat-deception/ | Aug 30 19:04 |
| schestowitz | 2) http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/the-exfat-googlebomb/ | Aug 30 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is exFAT Inside Linux | Techrights | Aug 30 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | 3) http://techrights.org/2019/07/11/microsoft-putting-patent-traps-inside-linux/ | Aug 30 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Wants Linux to Use exFAT for the Same Reasons it Wants Everybody to Use OOXML | Techrights | Aug 30 19:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Putting Patent Traps Inside Linux While Blackmailing Companies Using Patents Associated With These Traps | Techrights | Aug 30 19:04 | |
| schestowitz | 3 is a little out of date | Aug 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz | in the sense that Microsoft made a statement about patents | Aug 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz | it's from July anyway | Aug 30 19:05 |
| schestowitz | afaik, we're the only community working to refute this propaganda wave | Aug 30 19:06 |
| scientes | and ext4 really already won | Aug 30 19:06 |
| schestowitz | on servers for sure | Aug 30 19:06 |
| scientes | they are just pulling this bullshit because android means that ext4 is winning on SD cards | Aug 30 19:06 |
| schestowitz | yup | Aug 30 19:06 |
| scientes | and now Windows looks like shit cause it can't read Android SD cards | Aug 30 19:06 |
| schestowitz | they want their OEM patent tax | Aug 30 19:06 |
| schestowitz | F2FS scares them | Aug 30 19:06 |
| scientes | the tax is irrelevent | Aug 30 19:06 |
| schestowitz | they want to kill it asap | Aug 30 19:07 |
| scientes | ext4 means they are already pretty dead | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | btw | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | see (3) above | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | see the part about Ted Tso | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | he strongly opposes this | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | citing patent attacks | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | the media doesn't care | Aug 30 19:07 |
| schestowitz | they just repeat, copypasta of Microsoft claims | Aug 30 19:07 |
| psydroid | on that Dutch forum some people say ext2 is simpler and good enough, but there is no reason not to go with ext4 nowadays | Aug 30 19:07 |
| psydroid | it has excellent performance on my Orange Pi, why should I go with something else? | Aug 30 19:08 |
| scientes | psydroid, you can also do ext4 without journaling | Aug 30 19:08 |
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| schestowitz | reiser will kill ext4 | Aug 30 19:09 |
| schestowitz | out of prison soon | Aug 30 19:09 |
| psydroid | scientes, yes, that's exactly the thing that I don't understand about their reasoning, I tried ext2 once and it ate my partition so I used ext3 instead | Aug 30 19:09 |
| schestowitz | looking to make up for 'lost time' | Aug 30 19:09 |
| psydroid | lol | Aug 30 19:09 |
| schestowitz | reisterfs4 bear ext4 to the 4 | Aug 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz | *beat | Aug 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz | cp -r /home/nana /home/hans | Aug 30 19:10 |
| schestowitz | *nina even | Aug 30 19:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You can just use Ext4 without a journal if you really want to. | Aug 30 19:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft ggiving the OIN an irrevocable patent license on exFAT is better than nothing, if we assume that exFAT is an unavoidable industry standard. | Aug 30 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The timing is impeccable. | Aug 30 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After they got their money from Foxconn, they did it. | Aug 30 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Foxconn makes pretty much all of the consumer devices out there, really, if you think about it, or a good percentage of the content of them. | Aug 30 19:25 |
| scientes | > Meanwhile, Yandex founder and CEO Arkady Volozh, a citizen of Russia and Malta | Aug 30 19:25 |
| scientes | ....because he bought Malta citizenship of course... | Aug 30 19:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The exFAT situation, in technical terms only, on GNU/Linux right now is terrible. | Aug 30 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You basically have your choice between no support at all or a FUSE module that often shits on your data and then nothing can repair it. | Aug 30 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you store anything on exFAT and try to use it with your GNU/Linux machines then I really hope you have a backup. | Aug 30 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because it'll probably work fine for a while and then either the file system won't mount or the reads/writes will become unbearably slow and start hogging an entire CPU core. | Aug 30 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems that exFAT file systems do not age well when created with and/or accessed with exfat-fuse. | Aug 30 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apple has working exFAT support, but their NTFS support isn't very good, so many articles recommend exFAT as a way to make your portable hard drive "universally compatible". | Aug 30 19:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But Apple paid Microsoft to use the exFAT patents and gain the technical specs so that they would know exactly how to implement the file system. | Aug 30 19:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's possible to reverse engineer the file system, but without the technical specifications, the author of the FUSE driver obviously got some things wrong, and the fsck utility can tell you that errors exist, but can't do anything about them. | Aug 30 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually, you will need access to a Windows machine to repair the file system if you use exFAT. | Aug 30 19:33 |
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| MinceR | > also free software looks more and more like a battle zone | Aug 30 19:41 |
| MinceR | that's because the suits have arrived | Aug 30 19:42 |
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| schestowitz | and they dress up for it | Aug 30 19:45 |
| schestowitz | it's a legal war | Aug 30 19:45 |
| schestowitz | lawyers and moles | Aug 30 19:46 |
| scientes | MinceR, who were you quoting? | Aug 30 19:50 |
| MinceR | scientes: psydroid | Aug 30 19:52 |
| scientes | its insulting to people that wear suits to call them suits | Aug 30 19:54 |
| scientes | more like parasites | Aug 30 19:54 |
| MinceR | http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/S/suit.html | Aug 30 19:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | suit | Aug 30 19:55 | |
| scientes | the irony is that suits are just clothes that made sense before plastics in New England | Aug 30 19:55 |
| scientes | or maybe England too | Aug 30 19:56 |
| scientes | and then spread to the whole damn world for some reason | Aug 30 19:56 |
| scientes | those wool jackets are really warm | Aug 30 19:56 |
| MinceR | i can't imagine an era when the shape of those things made sense | Aug 30 20:00 |
| scientes | well they have changed | Aug 30 20:00 |
| MinceR | (or when the strangulation device made sense, for that matter) | Aug 30 20:00 |
| scientes | they have also gone cotton, which makes no sense | Aug 30 20:01 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Nvidia Releases New Linux Graphics Driver with Many Improvements and Bug Fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127555 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fdfda3ac-cee2-480e-b2b4-108a6c7785ac] | Aug 30 20:01 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127556 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d47d5ee3-d386-476a-b6bc-8ddbd4c4f443] | Aug 30 20:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fairphone 3 Pre-Orders Begin For Ethical Smartphone With Better Specs Than The Librem 5 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127557 [https://pleroma.site/objects/054842d4-7b10-465e-a87a-686e609ed6ba] | Aug 30 20:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat and Fedora Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127558 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0e1978d2-26f0-49d0-be89-146c9a9e3d0b] | Aug 30 20:08 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Qmmp Music Player 1.3.4 Released with Stability Improvements http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127559 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9ef0554d-5a8b-4585-a7ff-fb8259465f7d] | Aug 30 20:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-exFAT-Code-Staging | Aug 30 20:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Existing Linux exFAT Code Is "Horrible" But Could Soon Be In Staging - Phoronix | Aug 30 20:33 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127560 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ce5800ea-df34-41f4-9438-b3d5b5972360] | Aug 30 20:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Greg KH says the quality of the Samsung exFAT driver is "horrible" and that it will go into staging for now and they may just work on a completely new driver and take the Samsung one out of staging later without merging it. | Aug 30 20:33 |
| schestowitz | lol, greg.... | Aug 30 20:33 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/09/18/kroah-hartman-ms-vanity/ | Aug 30 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu evil | Aug 30 20:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Greg Kroah-Hartman (Novell Hacker) Insults Ubuntu | Techrights | Aug 30 20:34 | |
| schestowitz | Microsoft OK | Aug 30 20:34 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/15/professionalism-myth/ | Aug 30 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Myth of ‘Professionalism’ | Techrights | Aug 30 20:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I can see two big problems right now. | Aug 30 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's barely any whitespace and it doesn't look like there are any comments at all in the code. | Aug 30 20:36 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/06/29/ousting-linus-torvalds/ | Aug 30 20:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Campaign to Oust Linus Torvalds and Other Microsoft Critics at the ‘Linux’ Foundation | Techrights | Aug 30 20:37 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: proprietary | Aug 30 20:37 |
| schestowitz | nobody sees it | Aug 30 20:37 |
| schestowitz | so it can be ugly :-) | Aug 30 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This looks a lot like Nvidia's old NV driver. | Aug 30 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not something that should be merged into the kernel. | Aug 30 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XFree86 had no standards for code quality whatsoever, and it seems like Linux doesn't either. | Aug 30 20:39 |
| schestowitz | who can say no? | Aug 30 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Without being labeled "ms hater"? | Aug 30 20:39 |
| schestowitz | Hater of charity | Aug 30 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | -staging is a fig leaf for crap drivers, but it grows and grows. | Aug 30 20:39 |
| schestowitz | or the philanthropy of Pearly | Aug 30 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've seen stuff get cleaned up from staging or just dropped entirely because it was garbage _and_ nobody was using it. | Aug 30 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it seems like stuff stagnates and more bad stuff gets added more often than stuff leaves. | Aug 30 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Microsoft spec does not document Transaction Safe exFAT at all. | Aug 30 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Due to the lack of support in desktop operating systems neither TFAT nor TexFAT are recommended for removable media. While the desktop OS could still read the drive, it could not use the | Aug 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | transaction-safe features, so unexpected removal or a power outage could lead to data loss. In addition, directories created under the desktop OS may not be transaction-safe even if the drive is later attached to a TFAT/TexFAT aware operating system." | Aug 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 30 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why are the transaction safe features an optional profile that are only intended to work with Windows Mobile? | Aug 30 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Seems like this would be useful on any system. | Aug 30 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe only the Mobile team at Microsoft cared. | Aug 30 20:49 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python 3.8.0b4 is now available for testing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127562 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b58cc4b4-af55-43ab-a71c-06a85b0ae8f2] | Aug 30 20:53 | |
| MinceR | i wonder if gkh's sense of quality is inverted or samsung's exFAT's drivers are even worse than kdbugs | Aug 30 21:02 |
| MinceR | both options are horrifying | Aug 30 21:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm getting used to horrifying options. | Aug 30 21:09 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 30 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just got another letter from the finance company. | Aug 30 21:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They whacked me with a late fee for the car payment and are billing me for next month's too. | Aug 30 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem for them is that I'm broke and I'm on Social Security. | Aug 30 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Suing me gets them nothing. | Aug 30 21:10 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/SleepyPenguin1/status/1167528786583261187 | Aug 30 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: "Microsoft and its boosters spread the illusion that Microsoft is “opening up”; the reality, however, is that it’s… https://t.co/FqpbrptjHB | Aug 30 21:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SleepyPenguin1: "Microsoft and its boosters spread the illusion that Microsoft is “opening up”; the reality, however, is that it’s… https://t.co/FqpbrptjHB | Aug 30 21:10 | |
| schestowitz | ""Microsoft and its boosters spread the illusion that Microsoft is “opening up”; the reality, however, is that it’s looking to tighten control over Linux while at the same time profiting from exFAT patents owing to back room deals"" | Aug 30 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John is on the loan for my car and he is quite vulnerable to a wage garnishment. | Aug 30 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So this is really more of a problem for him. | Aug 30 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good. Fuck him. He deserves to suffer after what he did to me. Treacherous pig. | Aug 30 21:10 |
| <--genstar has quit (Quit: genstar) | Aug 30 21:11 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Zambia should reduce cost of software ownership http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127563 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2f685292-1442-44d0-a4c6-1bd03e6f756e] | Aug 30 21:25 | |
| schestowitz | who was married? | Aug 30 21:36 |
| schestowitz | you showed some cerificate, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 30 21:36 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Run Chromium OS on Your Desktop or Laptop Computer with ChromX and Flatpak http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127561 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f33d8e6a-313a-4d35-ba0b-4629bd7b2ebe] | Aug 30 21:37 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Highlights of YaST Development Sprint and OpenSUSE Tumbleweed News http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127564 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d053ed6-a585-4524-9d14-6bce457b11a4] | Aug 30 21:41 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OSS and Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127565 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ff529919-02b3-4200-82fc-74c4d54bf6d4] | Aug 30 21:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm married. | Aug 30 21:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Proving I could do better than John if you just gave me a month away from John. | Aug 30 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, I wasn't giving myself enough credit. | Aug 30 21:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 5 years of his constant cheating and lying and trashing the apartment so I could go ahead an fucking lose all of my material possessions anyway, which were the only reason I was even still living there in the end. | Aug 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz | OK, but not to John | Aug 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz | Congrats anyway | Aug 30 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh thank god no. | Aug 30 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thank you! | Aug 30 21:49 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Hardware With Linux: OrangeCrab, Nexcom’s and Arbor’s Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127566 [https://pleroma.site/objects/95e22f15-d60b-4123-b819-fbd23b81dfc0] | Aug 30 21:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I managed to take a wrecking ball to most of the state's case against me. | Aug 30 21:49 |
| schestowitz | brandishing a fist or a knife? | Aug 30 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I fucked it up enough that they had to abandon the aggravated assault charge involving John completely. | Aug 30 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And they gave up and called Luis a Disorderly Conduct. | Aug 30 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm on 4 months of supervised probation followed by 8 months unsupervised. | Aug 30 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Allegedly, a knife. | Aug 30 21:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John was under the impression that as long as I didn't go to jail, I'd keep making the car payments. | Aug 30 21:51 |
| schestowitz | because a fist and a knife look the same. LOL | Aug 30 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Luis was under the impression that if he came anywhere near that courthouse, that immigration would be there to haul him off. | Aug 30 21:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they started backpeddling and the prosecutor couldn't save much of his case against me. | Aug 30 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And then I defaulted on the car anyway. | Aug 30 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Well, he's not Slovenian, so... | Aug 30 21:52 |
| schestowitz | seems US immigration policy is colour based now | Aug 30 21:52 |
| schestowitz | Filipinos, Hispanics, blacks out | Aug 30 21:52 |
| schestowitz | But Trump's "pussy" wives? OK. | Aug 30 21:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy is Filipino. | Aug 30 21:52 |
| schestowitz | My wife is too. | Aug 30 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But he's married to me and the government would have to prove it's not legit. | Aug 30 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He passed his medical exam, btw. | Aug 30 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So our packet is ready, All I have to do is buy some money orders next week. | Aug 30 21:53 |
| schestowitz | iirc, trumpland just expelled 26 odd of them | Aug 30 21:53 |
| schestowitz | probably around south cal | Aug 30 21:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, truth be told, I could have probably kept paying on that car for some time. | Aug 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I chose to feed John to Kia Finance and use the money to get Mandy a green card. | Aug 30 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a twofer, and I would have lost the car anyway. Just a question of when. | Aug 30 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I paid to have my mom's car fixed up a bit and I'll be "borrowing" that indefinitely. | Aug 30 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The longer I kept paying on it, the less John's deficiency balance would have been. | Aug 30 21:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He started calling everyone. My mom, my lawyer, me. The state made it illegal for me to talk to him. | Aug 30 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just as well. | Aug 30 21:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I would have told him to eat shit and die if I could say anything to him, but silence sends the same message. | Aug 30 21:56 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 30 21:58 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Foundation: Hyperledger and LF Edge http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127567 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3a5d819d-c283-4a94-b6f1-14597d82604a] | Aug 30 21:58 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127568 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3dfa9be2-a1bf-4cc8-98c5-ac551baaf2d2] | Aug 30 22:00 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Just in case John did have the money to redeem the car loan somehow, I'm driving it around for a while putting miles on it and not changing the oil or washing it while the past due balance grows. | Aug 30 22:02 |
| schestowitz | good | Aug 30 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eventually, I'll call the finance company and ask them how they want to arrange to get it back. | Aug 30 22:03 |
| schestowitz | reminds me why I quit driving | Aug 30 22:03 |
| schestowitz | what a shit it is | Aug 30 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Eh, I just had a partial rebuild done on mom's impala. | Aug 30 22:03 |
| schestowitz | MOT, petrol, repairs, insurance, health issues, purchase costs, cleaning, licensing, traffic... arghhhh | Aug 30 22:04 |
| MinceR | yeah, but what hungarians call public transport is even more of a shit | Aug 30 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On the engine. | Aug 30 22:04 |
| MinceR | and budapest is unsuitable for travel on foot | Aug 30 22:04 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: definitely worse | Aug 30 22:04 |
| schestowitz | we walk a lot | Aug 30 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, while I'm borrowing the Impala from mom, the insurance is only costing her $3 a month. | Aug 30 22:04 |
| schestowitz | 1.5 hours today | Aug 30 22:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because it's a "second car" on her policy. | Aug 30 22:04 |
| MinceR | especially in the summer | Aug 30 22:04 |
| MinceR | since any plant life is considered heresy here | Aug 30 22:04 |
| MinceR | while concrete is one of the highest sacraments | Aug 30 22:04 |
| schestowitz | budapest just had flock | Aug 30 22:05 |
| MinceR | shadow is another heresy | Aug 30 22:05 |
| schestowitz | fedora/ibm/redcrap | Aug 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It took some hail damage a few months ago and they wrote her a check for $2,000 and called it "totaled". | Aug 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it has a few dings, but who the fuck cares, honestly? | Aug 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway, since it's not an asset, as I don't have the title, it won't count if I have to file bankruptcy next year. | Aug 30 22:05 |
| schestowitz | madame harmon(e) | Aug 30 22:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it's looking that way. | Aug 30 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Six figures of debt. | Aug 30 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No assets. | Aug 30 22:06 |
| schestowitz | sounds typical yankie... | Aug 30 22:06 |
| schestowitz | credit card debt maxed up | Aug 30 22:06 |
| schestowitz | and I heard this lie last week | Aug 30 22:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, and all it took was 4 months of having to live and fight the state over a pair of misdemeanors. | Aug 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FUCK JOHN. | Aug 30 22:07 |
| MinceR | kinky | Aug 30 22:07 |
| schestowitz | that if you don't take "credit" (i.e. debt), t'll look bad on your "file" | Aug 30 22:07 |
| schestowitz | "credit report" | Aug 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's all I have to say. I hope Kia grabs his paycheck and won't let go. | Aug 30 22:07 |
| schestowitz | as if it's better to have a borrower someone who is already deep in debt or has a history of being in minus | Aug 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, it's going to look real bad soon. | Aug 30 22:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The car might have the first thing to go, but I don't believe it will be the last. | Aug 30 22:07 |
| schestowitz | Jabba on sale, too | Aug 30 22:08 |
| schestowitz | for meat | Aug 30 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Technically, that's not true either. | Aug 30 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's been dead for four years. | Aug 30 22:08 |
| schestowitz | banker: I see you got some really PHAT cat here... | Aug 30 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have two cats now. | Aug 30 22:08 |
| schestowitz | they can exhume the body | Aug 30 22:08 |
| schestowitz | if they can lift the phatty :-) | Aug 30 22:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I took John's with me because I felt too bad for her to leave her there. | Aug 30 22:09 |
| schestowitz | so now John has no pussy(cat) | Aug 30 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I took his cat, cut the power and internet off on him the next day. | Aug 30 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whatever of my stuff I could carry. | Aug 30 22:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Set a charcoal grill full of files that I didn't want to leave there on fire. | Aug 30 22:10 |
| schestowitz | take the john (loo) | Aug 30 22:10 |
| schestowitz | leave him shitting himself | Aug 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He is a human toilet. | Aug 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's how I got into this mess. | Aug 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His illegal immigrant grindr fuck called the cops on me. | Aug 30 22:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And then John spilled like the Exxon-Valdez for the police department, backing up everything Luis said. | Aug 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I reminded him that we co-own a car and that if I go to jail, I would have no income. | Aug 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, he starts telling the complete opposite story to the prosecutor. | Aug 30 22:11 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 30 22:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Along the way he said Luis was scared of court because he's an illegal immigrant. | Aug 30 22:12 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said it would be a shame if someone called the local ICE field office and told them exactly where he'd be the day of my trial. | Aug 30 22:12 |
| schestowitz | they stalk courts | Aug 30 22:12 |
| schestowitz | I read about it last year | Aug 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, and the illegals know it. | Aug 30 22:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't plant the fear there. | Aug 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | they use they record them outside courtrooms and arrest them there | Aug 30 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I only expanded on it. | Aug 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | which is actually very controversial as it discourages participation in the legal system/process | Aug 30 22:13 |
| schestowitz | reducing them to rightless people, presumed without dignity | Aug 30 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got them both to want nothing more to do with this and the prosecutor dropped the charge involving John and reduced the one about Luis to a Disorderly Conduct. | Aug 30 22:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was potentially facing $6,000 in fines, a year in jail, and a year of supervised supervision. | Aug 30 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I managed to get it into a disorderly conduct (could mean anything) with a $1,300 fine and 4 months supervised/8 months unsupervised. | Aug 30 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The only thing that the prosecutor had left was the threat of the charges themselves. | Aug 30 22:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told my lawyer, "We'd better take this before John finds out that I'm defaulting on the car either way. Do the best you can for me up there.". | Aug 30 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I get an email on the 25th that says "Tell Kia about your experience with our automated call center!". I was like, "I didn't call Kia.". | Aug 30 22:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then the next day John starts blowing up everyone's phones going "Ryan! What are you doing! What's going on with the car!? You NEED to pay the car or drop it off with me!". | Aug 30 22:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard the voicemail and I was like, "No. I really don't. You don't ever get to tell me what to do again.", | Aug 30 22:16 |
| schestowitz | lol | Aug 30 22:16 |
| schestowitz | never buy things on loans | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom said he left one on her phone saying "This is an emergency! I need to talk to you!". | Aug 30 22:17 |
| schestowitz | installments | Aug 30 22:17 |
| schestowitz | "arranged payments" | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Yeah, it's an emergency, for him.". | Aug 30 22:17 |
| schestowitz | "credit" | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I should've kept the Crown Victoria. | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because John couldn't keep it in his pants for five minutes. | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Always getting mugged under the L while he thought it was someone who would suck his dick. | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or trawling an illegal home with him. | Aug 30 22:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Shit like that. | Aug 30 22:18 |
| schestowitz | too graphic | Aug 30 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was crying to me that the first thing most people on Grindr did was block him. | Aug 30 22:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Tells you they're smarter than I was..". | Aug 30 22:18 |
| schestowitz | the -social channel was born due to this | Aug 30 22:18 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 30 22:19 |
| schestowitz | "balzac" bragging about strippers at some club he had been to | Aug 30 22:19 |
| schestowitz | back in the FSDaily days | Aug 30 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Grindr is creepy software anyway. | Aug 30 22:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It tells companies about your HIV status, probably does other stuff. | Aug 30 22:19 |
| schestowitz | there was a scandal about this in Singapore and US too, I think | Aug 30 22:19 |
| schestowitz | these databases spilling out | Aug 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some dude in New York was busted for Disorderly Conduct and Electronic Harassment because he used a Fake GPS app with Grindr to send random men to his exes house. | Aug 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guy had like 3-4 men showing up every day wanting sex with him. | Aug 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | the cost of list keeping | Aug 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | no flight lists and all | Aug 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought about it and then went "Nah, I'd be doing John a favor. He's John.". | Aug 30 22:20 |
| schestowitz | you once shared her a web page about your sex offending neighbour | Aug 30 22:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh yeah, it turns out creepy people are everywhere. | Aug 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used to work with a guy in Muncie in 2003-2004. | Aug 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's show up at work and start talking about having his wife pegging him while a camcorder got all of it. | Aug 30 22:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Things like that. Just gross. Ten years later, the Muncie police raided his house and foudn a CP dungeon. | Aug 30 22:22 |
| schestowitz | LOL: | Aug 30 22:22 |
| schestowitz | The Legendary OS once kicked by many big companies turns 50. The Story. | Aug 30 22:23 |
| schestowitz | https://thedigitalhacker.com/2019/08/30/the-legendary-os-once-kicked-by-many-big-companies-turns-50-the-story/ #unix with TUX LOGO!?!?!?!? | Aug 30 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Legendary OS once kicked by many big companies turns 50. The Story. - TheDigitalHacker | Aug 30 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | see logo | Aug 30 22:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Modern Linux is so far removed from UNIX that it may as well not be referenced alongside it except in a very general way. | Aug 30 22:23 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 30/8/2019: Nvidia Linux Graphics Driver and DXVK 1.3.3 http://techrights.org/2019/08/30/dxvk-1-3-3/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/4893d615-27d2-4885-84e4-7d5a66e6c010] | Aug 30 22:24 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The BSDs are more like a traditional UNIX system. | Aug 30 22:24 |
| schestowitz | what distro are you on? | Aug 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That having been said, the BSDs are also obscure even compared to Linux, fragmented, and not really meant to serve as desktop systems. | Aug 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora 30. | Aug 30 22:25 |
| MinceR | GNU/Linux is Unix, systemd/Linux isn't | Aug 30 22:25 |
| MinceR | simple enough | Aug 30 22:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, most of the distributions went the systemd way a long time ago even though some held out for a few years and tried hacking around having to include all of it. | Aug 30 22:26 |
| MinceR | that's because most of the distributions are maintained by people who have no clue what they're doing | Aug 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Upstart was probably one thing that Canonical did that should have kept on. | Aug 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unity was a bust and a dead end. | Aug 30 22:26 |
| MinceR | upstart looks good only when compared to systemd | Aug 30 22:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I believe Snap is the same. | Aug 30 22:26 |
| MinceR | snap is proprietary | Aug 30 22:26 |
| MinceR | and canonical is a microsoft lackey | Aug 30 22:27 |
| schestowitz | it's not | Aug 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | what is not | Aug 30 22:27 |
| schestowitz | it's used to push blobs | Aug 30 22:27 |
| schestowitz | it's a ramp for them | Aug 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: You mean in the sense that Upstart wasn't radically destructive to the rest of the system and really did fix some of the sysvinit problems? | Aug 30 22:27 |
| schestowitz | snapd is FOSS | Aug 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | afaik snap's server side is proprietary | Aug 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | snapd is a client-side daemon, isn't it? | Aug 30 22:27 |
| schestowitz | but it's like those ugly DRM things, like Steam | Aug 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Snap's server-side is very proprietary and the sandboxing doesn't actually work right without AppArmor. | Aug 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which most distributions don't even build, much less activate. | Aug 30 22:27 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: mostly that it didn't rely on a kernel feature that doesn't work and had scope | Aug 30 22:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | (Fedora uses SELinux) | Aug 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: still, it abuses ptrace and signals | Aug 30 22:28 |
| schestowitz | any links on the server side? | Aug 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | fedora is garbage | Aug 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's also well known that AppArmor isn't very useful. | Aug 30 22:28 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was all free sw | Aug 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: well, afaik nobody other than canonical runs the server | Aug 30 22:28 |
| schestowitz | true maybe | Aug 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, there is no open source software that describes what a Snap server does. | Aug 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | no MAC system is very useful because it's a wrong approach to security | Aug 30 22:28 |
| schestowitz | but they probably put the code somewhere | Aug 30 22:28 |
| MinceR | they're trying to secure a system by slapping something extra on top | Aug 30 22:28 |
| schestowitz | can you research this? Potential article topic | Aug 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So nobody but Canonical can run one, which makes an open source _client_ irrelevant. | Aug 30 22:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Flatpak is at least FULLY open. | Aug 30 22:29 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: there isn't much i can do | Aug 30 22:29 |
| schestowitz | any articles on this? | Aug 30 22:29 |
| MinceR | i don't remember seeing any | Aug 30 22:29 |
| schestowitz | Where did you read this? A forum? | Aug 30 22:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Snap is open source in the same way that Office 365 is open source because you can load it into Firefox. | Aug 30 22:29 |
| schestowitz | similar concerns about their sites like bug management etc. | Aug 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snappy_(package_manager) | Aug 30 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Snappy (package manager) - Wikipedia | Aug 30 22:30 | |
| MinceR | wikipedia says it explicitly | Aug 30 22:30 |
| schestowitz | they did liberate those at the end iirc | Aug 30 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's very much a case of openwashing. The user really has no control over what it does and nobody can speak Snap and compete with their own store. | Aug 30 22:30 |
| MinceR | though their source for it is a competing corporation | Aug 30 22:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It operates in much the same way as Steam except that Steam is completely proprietary on both sides. | Aug 30 22:30 |
| schestowitz | "GPLv3 (client), proprietary (server)" | Aug 30 22:31 |
| schestowitz | Wow, what shite | Aug 30 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yep, yep. | Aug 30 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Flatpak is open on both sides, but you absolutely can distribute proprietary software with it. But it's no different than any other package format in that regard. | Aug 30 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Skype, Opera, etc. have been distributed in DEB and RPM for some time now. | Aug 30 22:31 |
| MinceR | and i wouldn't want it limited in that way anyway | Aug 30 22:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Opera is very clearly taking sides with their "Linux" port. | Aug 30 22:32 |
| MinceR | in the case of a packaging system worth using, forcing proprietary software to use some inferior packaging system would only make it harder for users | Aug 30 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you click "Linux" it sends you a DEB package. | Aug 30 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if your browser's UA just says "Linux" or actually says something like "Fedora" or "SUSE" or whatever. | Aug 30 22:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a little link that's almost too tiny to see that asks if you prefer the RPM. | Aug 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I say too small to see, I mean I have my prescription eyeglasses ON and can barely read it. | Aug 30 22:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like a size 3 font. | Aug 30 22:33 |
| MinceR | what if i hate both? | Aug 30 22:33 |
| MinceR | xonotic gets binary distribution right, and it doesn't seem all that difficult to do | Aug 30 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, there are Opera packages for other distributions. | Aug 30 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the distribution itself has generally just dumped the binaries out of the DEB or RPM package and rolled them up in some other way. | Aug 30 22:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This has the additional downside of introducing a delay every time there's an update. | Aug 30 22:35 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alanghsu/status/1167536408648548353 | Aug 30 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alanghsu: 近幾年 Microsoft 逐步對 Linux 開放它的專利技術，背後的內幕似乎不單純啊！ 讀完這篇詳盡的分析，你可能就會有不同的看法。 https://t.co/fLBnPAAw4O | Aug 30 22:35 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 30 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | Microsoft Wants Linux to Use exFAT for the Same Reasons it Wants Everybody to Use OOXML | Techrights | Aug 30 22:35 | |
| schestowitz | 近幾年 Microsoft 逐步對 Linux 開放它的專利技術，背後的內幕似乎不單純啊！ | Aug 30 22:35 |
| schestowitz | 讀完這篇詳盡的分析，你可能就會有不同的看法。 | Aug 30 22:35 |
| schestowitz | Translated from Chinese by Microsoft | Aug 30 22:35 |
| schestowitz | In recent years, Microsoft has gradually opened up its patented technology to Linux, and the inside story doesn't seem to be simple! | Aug 30 22:35 |
| schestowitz | After reading this detailed analysis, you may have a different view. | Aug 30 22:35 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 30 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since Opera does not pay for MPEG media codecs, most HTML video sites don't work in the Linux version. | Aug 30 22:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can get around this in Fedora by installing the Chromium codecs freeworld package and then replacing Opera's libffmpeg.so with a symlink to the one from RPM Fusion. | Aug 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Strangely enough it has never not worked for me, even though it's not meant to work together like this. | Aug 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Aug 30 22:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yes, exFAT isn't a proper *nix file system. | Aug 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't support POSIX namespace or permissions or security labels or anything. | Aug 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It will never fully work on anything except Windows. | Aug 30 22:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even NTFS is better in some ways. | Aug 30 22:37 |
| schestowitz | linux chasing rainbows | Aug 30 22:40 |
| schestowitz | while Microsoft calls the shots | Aug 30 22:40 |
| schestowitz | that's the plan | Aug 30 22:40 |
| schestowitz | [19:04] <schestowitz> see 1) http://techrights.org/2019/08/30/the-exfat-deception/ | Aug 30 22:40 |
| schestowitz | [19:04] <schestowitz> 2) http://techrights.org/2019/08/29/the-exfat-googlebomb/ | Aug 30 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is exFAT Inside Linux | Techrights | Aug 30 22:40 | |
| schestowitz | [19:04] <schestowitz> 3) http://techrights.org/2019/07/11/microsoft-putting-patent-traps-inside-linux/ | Aug 30 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Putting Patent Traps Inside Linux While Blackmailing Companies Using Patents Associated With These Traps | Techrights | Aug 30 22:41 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Wine 4.15 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127569 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c7555af3-d8ea-4b9d-bbda-e48a53223e39] | Aug 30 22:42 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | For the most part, I use Firefox. | Aug 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although I've been considering moving to Opera in the wake of recent events. | Aug 30 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I pay for a VPN every year, and while it isn't _that_ expensive, it is $40 and it's coming up for renewal. | Aug 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Opera has a "free" VPN built into their browser and they say it has a no-log policy. | Aug 30 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, it's obvious that nobody in the US should be browsing without a VPN. | Aug 30 22:44 |
| MinceR | can other applications use it? | Aug 30 22:44 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 'Abandon Ship' on GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127570 [https://pleroma.site/objects/01af4f83-7eb0-4f8e-aef6-f891f4ee2ad0] | Aug 30 22:45 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: No. When they say "VPN", it's actually an encrypted proxy server. | Aug 30 22:45 |
| schestowitz | opera is chinese-owned now | Aug 30 22:45 |
| schestowitz | so don't believe anything they say about privacy, their code is secret also | Aug 30 22:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: encrypted to their end | Aug 30 22:46 |
| schestowitz | but can you trust their end? | Aug 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Trump admin has been even worse than Obama or Bush about onliine privacy. They attempted to send out (literally) a million or so subpeonas at once, demanding every IP address that visited an anti-Trump protest site. | Aug 30 22:46 |
| schestowitz | j20 | Aug 30 22:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that. | Aug 30 22:46 |
| schestowitz | they also brought back the phone spying program NSA was order to indefinitely suspend | Aug 30 22:47 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/VmdunGFqfIHJiNDvozmZdSqF > | Aug 30 22:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So not only is the exFAT driver 11,000 lines of shit.... | Aug 30 22:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Several thousand lines implement features that are already implemented in the existing FAT driver -or- the VFS layer of the kernel. | Aug 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But in it goes anyway. | Aug 30 22:48 |
| schestowitz | hyper-v driver was 18k lines of shit | Aug 30 22:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's probably faster to merge it than to actually stop for a while and try to make sense of it and to gut it of things it re-implements badly. | Aug 30 22:48 |
| schestowitz | even greg k-h (!!) complained about it | Aug 30 22:49 |
| schestowitz | torvalds needs to speak out | Aug 30 22:49 |
| schestowitz | he won't, of course | Aug 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, he just ho-hummed this exFAT thing even though I can see it's bad and I don't even write software. | Aug 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've seen examples of what readable code look like and this is far from it. | Aug 30 22:49 |
| schestowitz | media would 'kill' him for exercising control over quality of his project | Aug 30 22:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's compacted. There's no explanation of anything it's doing or why. | Aug 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no separation of different areas of the driver from one another. | Aug 30 22:50 |
| MinceR | ah, so microsoft is blackmailing linus | Aug 30 22:50 |
| MinceR | great. | Aug 30 22:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A lot of it is in hex. | Aug 30 22:50 |
| schestowitz | you don't care when you compile | Aug 30 22:52 |
| schestowitz | it was proprietary, so | Aug 30 22:52 |
| schestowitz | and the NSA likes hex | Aug 30 22:52 |
| schestowitz | I wrote about 12 years ago about how hex was likely put there by the NSA for back doors | Aug 30 22:52 |
| schestowitz | it helps make them harder to understand and pass off as 'oops', 'bug', 'accident' | Aug 30 22:52 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: the media does | Aug 30 22:53 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Peter and ilk | Aug 30 22:53 |
| schestowitz | drpizza | Aug 30 22:53 |
| schestowitz | anti-torvalds brigade | Aug 30 22:53 |
| schestowitz | 1) http://techrights.org/2019/06/29/ousting-linus-torvalds/ | Aug 30 22:53 |
| MinceR | what do they care if microsoft's malware gets merged into linux or not? | Aug 30 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Campaign to Oust Linus Torvalds and Other Microsoft Critics at the ‘Linux’ Foundation | Techrights | Aug 30 22:53 | |
| schestowitz | 2) http://techrights.org/2019/06/23/bill-gates-and-his-jihad/ | Aug 30 22:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Said He Was on a “Jihad” Against GNU/Linux, But GNU/Linux Users/Developers Engaged in Self-Defense Are Foul-Mouthed ‘Microsoft Haters’? | Techrights | Aug 30 22:53 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Petty gripes about kernel versioning and tarballs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127571 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c0b71307-59c3-4381-b0ed-a51565fcf13d] | Aug 30 22:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | There is a segment of the driver that isn't even really close to being C source code. | Aug 30 22:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I should have left that tab open. | Aug 30 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | /* XXX duyoung+ * what can we do here? (cuz fs_set_vol_flags() is void)+ */ | Aug 30 23:00 |
| MinceR | who's "Levin"? | Aug 30 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, there's a comment. | Aug 30 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, that should inspire Android users with confidence. | Aug 30 23:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Should inspire Android users with confidence that Samsung's programmers didn't know how to interpret exFAT's volume flags specification. In fairness, maybe Microsoft's specification is vague, or wrong, or.... you know what. It's a Microsoft specification. Here's your sign. | Aug 30 23:03 |
| MinceR | isn't Google Play Services scary enough? | Aug 30 23:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | +/*+ * instead of copying whole sector, we will check every entry.+ * this will provide minimum stablity and consistancy.+ */ | Aug 30 23:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ACCEPTABLE TACTICAL LOSSES | Aug 30 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Aug 30 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jesus fuck. No wonder everyone on Phoronix says this driver fucked their files. | Aug 30 23:05 |
| schestowitz | wow | Aug 30 23:05 |
| schestowitz | link? | Aug 30 23:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The goal is to do a lot of redundant and expensive operations to provide "minimum" stability and consistency? | Aug 30 23:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's.....not god. | Aug 30 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Levin is Microsoft's mole in Linux | Aug 30 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Greg K-H said he can "vouch for him" | Aug 30 23:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/commit/?h=staging-next&id=c48c9f7ff32b8b3965a08e40eb6763682d905b5d | Aug 30 23:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git - Staging driver development tree | Aug 30 23:06 | |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 30 23:06 |
| MinceR | i should probably move to OpenBSD | Aug 30 23:06 |
| MinceR | allegedly adding crap to staging doesn't matter though | Aug 30 23:08 |
| MinceR | but i'm not sure why it's signed off then | Aug 30 23:08 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/uYPysfFnDtSRjySmFtRhnrmt > | Aug 30 23:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft added a signed-off by line on this piece of garbage. | Aug 30 23:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder if they even looked at it or just tossed that in there. | Aug 30 23:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Same can be said for their own software though, so they aren't playing favorites. | Aug 30 23:09 |
| MinceR | if microsoft even does code reviews, they're worthless | Aug 30 23:11 |
| MinceR | the only blocks of hex i see here are lookup tables | Aug 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | or something of the sort | Aug 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | the big thing at the end is a lookup table | Aug 30 23:13 |
| MinceR | and there are 2 lists of disallowed characters | Aug 30 23:13 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Announcing etcd 3.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127572 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d24ce493-bc31-4c48-a561-78590044479a] | Aug 30 23:14 | |
| MinceR | that said, Linus should take a good look at the GET* macros if he still cares :> | Aug 30 23:15 |
| MinceR | they seem innocuous to me, but who knows | Aug 30 23:16 |
| schestowitz | innocuous Microsoft? | Aug 30 23:18 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today's howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127573 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6cfcb2cb-1872-4c25-acbf-513ef933893b] | Aug 30 23:19 | |
| MinceR | innocuous endianness-agnostic data retrieval macros | Aug 30 23:19 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15856632 | Aug 30 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #microsoft code is utterly crap. No wonder it's #proprietarysoftware -- they need to hide just how ugly it is visually and functionally. What do they pay developers? Pistol to ear? https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/gregkh/staging.git/commit/?h=staging-next&id=c48c9f7ff32b8b3965a08e40eb6763682d905b5d | Aug 30 23:22 | |
| MinceR | i haven't found anything about how microsoft's media lackeys would be the blackmailers, doesn't seem to make sense to me | Aug 30 23:23 |
| MinceR | after all, the media is public and blackmail is private | Aug 30 23:24 |
| schestowitz | spies for the same | Aug 30 23:28 |
| schestowitz | and we're told it's not happening | Aug 30 23:28 |
| schestowitz | because nobody speaks about it. duh, that's how blackmail works, when it works | Aug 30 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.4-exFAT-Is-Coming | Aug 30 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Initial exFAT Driver Queued For Introduction With The Linux 5.4 Kernel - Phoronix | Aug 30 23:29 | |
| schestowitz | Trojan horse has landed | Aug 30 23:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The police didn't even charge me with everything that I ended up facing at the station. | Aug 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They only charged me with one count of assault. | Aug 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Later it turned into two aggravated assaults and the one that got added was one involving John. | Aug 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So they added charges in secret and didn't inform me until I was being arraigned. | Aug 30 23:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The best I could fight it back down to was similar to what I was facing to begin with before they secretely charged me with more. | Aug 30 23:35 |
| schestowitz | never deal with cops | Aug 30 23:37 |
| scientes | please don't link phoronix | Aug 30 23:37 |
| schestowitz | (if you have a choice) | Aug 30 23:37 |
| schestowitz | scientes: why? | Aug 30 23:37 |
| scientes | just link lkml directly | Aug 30 23:37 |
| scientes | its such horrible journalism | Aug 30 23:37 |
| schestowitz | ah, I see | Aug 30 23:37 |
| scientes | it just isn't the quality | Aug 30 23:37 |
| schestowitz | their malware in all pages it the sole issue I see | Aug 30 23:38 |
| scientes | and they don't link to their sources | Aug 30 23:38 |
| schestowitz | they usually do | Aug 30 23:38 |
| schestowitz | they rarely do not | Aug 30 23:38 |
| scientes | this only links to other phoernix articles https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-exFAT-Code-Staging | Aug 30 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Existing Linux exFAT Code Is "Horrible" But Could Soon Be In Staging - Phoronix | Aug 30 23:38 | |
| scientes | not the source of the quotes | Aug 30 23:38 |
| MinceR | https://files.catbox.moe/n86bmc.jpg | Aug 30 23:39 |
| schestowitz | there's no definite source | Aug 30 23:39 |
| scientes | all those quotes have a source however | Aug 30 23:39 |
| schestowitz | canonical forms of mailing lists archives | Aug 30 23:39 |
| schestowitz | it's decentralised | Aug 30 23:39 |
| scientes | well yeah gmame is down | Aug 30 23:39 |
| scientes | but there are archives | Aug 30 23:39 |
| schestowitz | definitive source for lkml don't exist | Aug 30 23:39 |
| schestowitz | as the kernel is not centralised and the mailing list isn't on kernel.org | Aug 30 23:40 |
| scientes | that's like saying the bible doesn't have a source | Aug 30 23:40 |
| scientes | you can still quote it and link to it | Aug 30 23:40 |
| schestowitz | which site? | Aug 30 23:40 |
| MinceR | afaik the older versions of the bible aren't even known | Aug 30 23:40 |
| schestowitz | the bible has no one single site | Aug 30 23:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As soon as I was told I was under arrest, I didn't say anythng else and invoked my right to remain silent. | Aug 30 23:40 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: and they're all translations anyway | Aug 30 23:40 |
| scientes | https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/ | Aug 30 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/ ) | Aug 30 23:40 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | They wanted to interrogate me on video. | Aug 30 23:40 |
| scientes | I guess lwn does its own mirror of lkml https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/20190829103749.GA13661@infradead.org/ | Aug 30 23:41 |
| scientes | that it quotes | Aug 30 23:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told them that wouldn't be happening and that further questions could go to my attorney. | Aug 30 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Re: [PATCH] staging: exfat: add exfat filesystem code to staging [LWN.net] | Aug 30 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | lwn and some unis too | Aug 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | US universities | Aug 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | it's cheap to make them, we could make one also | Aug 30 23:41 |
| schestowitz | mirroring some inbox and chaining email using some free s/w | Aug 30 23:41 |
| scientes | the lwn one is complete | Aug 30 23:41 |
| scientes | oh yeah https://lkml.org/ | Aug 30 23:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LKML.ORG - the Linux Kernel Mailing List Archive | Aug 30 23:42 | |
| schestowitz | lwn will die one day | Aug 30 23:42 |
| schestowitz | it almosy died already | Aug 30 23:42 |
| scientes | that's the "canonical" form | Aug 30 23:42 |
| schestowitz | eklektic is not sustainable | Aug 30 23:42 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yeah buts its easy to mirror | Aug 30 23:42 |
| scientes | its as sustainable as it can get | Aug 30 23:42 |
| scientes | they have such a great funding model | Aug 30 23:42 |
| schestowitz | it's worthless traffic to have anyway | Aug 30 23:42 |
| schestowitz | zemlinPAC should pay for bandwidth | Aug 30 23:42 |
| *scientes subscribes | Aug 30 23:42 | |
| schestowitz | you end up hosting code and messages for very evil companies | Aug 30 23:42 |
| scientes | the exFAT stuff is top of lkml.org | Aug 30 23:43 |
| MinceR | https://bnull.net/s/docker.png | Aug 30 23:43 |
| scientes | schestowitz, yes I agree with that | Aug 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | I saw that | Aug 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15856648 | Aug 30 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Examining #exFAT - published 19:43 today and authored by #linux guru #corbet https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/rss shame about the paywall | Aug 30 23:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://lwn.net/Articles/797963/rss ) | Aug 30 23:43 | |
| scientes | lwn.net is very tied to the kernel community, and some of the stuff they publish is actually behind the times, because they don't keep up with compiler developmenet | Aug 30 23:43 |
| schestowitz | \can you send me a link for a guest? | Aug 30 23:43 |
| scientes | cause linux does locking wrong, without using all the fancy new atomic features | Aug 30 23:44 |
| scientes | that C++ managed to nail down pretty well | Aug 30 23:44 |
| scientes | I mean they get the assembly right, but the C++ locking is actually much better | Aug 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | iirc, you can produce a link | Aug 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | with a token | Aug 30 23:44 |
| schestowitz | for all of us to read before the paywall is expired two thursdays from now | Aug 30 23:45 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Firefox 69, Firefox 70, and Firefox Nightly http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127574 [https://pleroma.site/objects/560a42c6-9d21-4d6c-9dc5-f13f8a3c3649] | Aug 30 23:49 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Whoever has to maintain that exfat driver from Samsung has their work cut out. | Aug 30 23:52 |
| schestowitz | scientes: is it possible? | Aug 30 23:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just keeping it building with the current GCC is going to be a problem. | Aug 30 23:52 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15856771 | Aug 30 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #apple fires its cannons again at #gnu #gpl and #copyleft https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CUPS-2.3-Released | Aug 30 23:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> CUPS 2.3 Printing System Finally Released With Licensing Change & Other Additions - Phoronix | Aug 30 23:52 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Samsung only open sourced what leaked several years ago. | Aug 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not even their current exfat code. | Aug 30 23:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure that, internally, someone at Samsung has documented it well enough that they know what it all does. | Aug 30 23:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unless they are severely disorganized, for real. | Aug 30 23:54 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dandroidos/status/1167562884605341696 | Aug 30 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dandroidos: A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is #exFAT Inside #Linux | Techrights https://t.co/6gzzdG3Bir | Aug 30 23:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | A Closer Look at the ‘Trojan Horse’ That is exFAT Inside Linux | Techrights | Aug 30 23:54 | |
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