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schestowitz[21:46] <amreo[m]> In the new index page the post about the IRC log is missing. Is it a error?Dec 30 00:21
schestowitzIt is not missing, just out of scope because it shows the latest 4 postsDec 30 00:22
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DaemonFC[m]I was reading a Wikipedia account of "American war crimes" during World War 2.Dec 30 00:30
DaemonFC[m]One was the machine gunning of Nazi death camp guards who had surrendered.Dec 30 00:30
DaemonFC[m]Meh.Dec 30 00:30
DaemonFC[m]I doubt anyone really cared. Who is going to argue the world would be better with them in it?Dec 30 00:31
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure there were such incidents, yet the Germans always tried to surrender to the Americans if it was a choice between that or the Soviets.Dec 30 00:32
DaemonFC[m]Gee, I wonder why.Dec 30 00:32
DaemonFC[m]I'm still working on the immigration packets.Dec 30 00:34
DaemonFC[m]I got a red swingline stapler at Walmart.Dec 30 00:34
DaemonFC[m]"If they do not give me my paycheck I will burn the building to the ground." -Milton Dec 30 00:35
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I loved that movie. Dec 30 00:36
DaemonFC[m]He admits to the firing consultants that he figures out ways to not do work and that his boss is such an idiot he doesn't even notice.Dec 30 00:36
DaemonFC[m]Gets his boss shoved to the side and demoted beneath him.Dec 30 00:36
DaemonFC[m]I really hate dealing with the government. When they do reopen the DMV it's not like you can just head on down there.Dec 30 00:37
DaemonFC[m]They've fucked over so many people who needed their license updated or the address changed that everyone in Waukegan will be wrapped three times around the block.Dec 30 00:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm just glad that I got it _renewed_ before they scrammed it again. Oh sure, they're all good through the end of June, but mine would expire 6 weeks before the deadline, meaning that I'd not only have to get down there and in line but I'd still risk not being able to get anyone to renew it on time, and then pulled over on an expired license and back in court over a misdemeanor. (A class b this time.)Dec 30 00:39
DaemonFC[m]I figured that I wouldn't have time after the move to get it taken care of, and I was right. By the time I had all the documents for an address change, they shut it down.Dec 30 00:41
DaemonFC[m]Wrong address on the card is fine as long as the card itself is not expired and you have the right address on file with the state, which is over a website.Dec 30 00:42
DaemonFC[m]I've figured out enough immigration stuff to be dangerous, I guess. Dec 30 00:43
DaemonFC[m]Hopefully they can just approve him for conditional residence and then I'll pay an attorney to file the removal of conditions in a couple of year.Dec 30 00:43
DaemonFC[m]This virus is fucking everything up.Dec 30 00:46
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, in Indiana, you can go to the DMV like nothing is happening.Dec 30 00:46
DaemonFC[m]They closed it here, but you can go to the mall if you want. This is pointless and stupid.Dec 30 00:46
DaemonFC[m]The UK variant is confirmed in Colorado.Dec 30 00:47
DaemonFC[m]They're trying to figure out who gave it to this guy, but the fact that he hasn't traveled anywhere means that there are too many clusters by now to stop it from becoming a big problem. Within 2 months it'll probably be responsible for at least two-thirds of new cases.Dec 30 00:48
DaemonFC[m]The increased efficiency of spread means that it will spread as quickly as the old version would have had everyone taken their masks off.Dec 30 00:49
DaemonFC[m]So we're in deep shit.Dec 30 00:49
DaemonFC[m]I'm trying to assemble a photo album. I've never done this before.Dec 30 00:53
DaemonFC[m]The photos are pretty disjointed so I don't know when any of them were taken beyond a general month.Dec 30 00:54
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: it's outdated for the gov. to assess relationship based on photosDec 30 01:10
schestowitznot because of covid lockdownsDec 30 01:10
schestowitzbut also the social control media aspectDec 30 01:11
schestowitzIt's like they impose on couples a lifestyle of taking phones of oneself or the couple... as if no criterion exists to prove a relationshipDec 30 01:11
schestowitzI think there was a joke somewhere about couples just taking many photos in  many places for no purposes other than immigrationDec 30 01:12
XRevan86scientes: "Был бы человек – а статья найдётся" – can't think of a translation. That's a saying that is closely related to the kind of laws like that new Foreign Agent law.Dec 30 01:41
XRevan86Almost literally: "If there were a person – an article [of the criminal code] will find itself".Dec 30 01:48
schestowitzForeign Agent LOLDec 30 01:52
schestowitz"Agent"Dec 30 01:52
schestowitzLike a gasDec 30 01:52
schestowitzon the doorknobDec 30 01:52
schestowitzthat's a "Foreign Agent"Dec 30 01:53
schestowitzchemical agents on your doorknobDec 30 01:53
schestowitzgift from Vladimir PutinDec 30 01:53
XRevan86More typically English: Give me a person and I'll find a way to convict them.Dec 30 01:54
XRevan86schestowitz: You mean a powder.Dec 30 01:55
schestowitz:-)Dec 30 01:58
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Techrights-sec 30 03:17
Techrights-secI think if a company, school, or association were to bulk order, theyDec 30 03:17
Techrights-secwould have no problem getting the localized keyboards Dec 30 03:17
Techrights-secAs a one-off, and an expensive option at that, one can get the extraDec 30 03:17
Techrights-seckeyboard and swap the top layer of hardware.  But that's only viable ifDec 30 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/ "I’ve been ogling the new Raspberry Pi 400: a single-board computer built into an 80s-style computer-in-a-keyboard case." Dec 30 03:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> | The official Raspberry Pi accessory distributor conundrumDec 30 03:17
Techrights-secone also needs a spare keyboard for something else. Dec 30 03:17
schestowitzcan a bunch of stickers not overcome this?Dec 30 03:17
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You wouldn't happen to know how to get a birth certificate from the philippines?Dec 30 04:38
schestowitzManila has the recordsDec 30 04:41
schestowitzTondo cannot be far from the bureau, though you might be required to then certify itDec 30 04:42
DaemonFC[m]There's something called PSA SerbilisDec 30 04:52
schestowitzstill broken feed at URL: ""Dec 30 05:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ )Dec 30 05:40
DaemonFC[m]They want my fedex number.Dec 30 05:44
DaemonFC[m]Ugh.Dec 30 05:44
DaemonFC[m]With that, you can ship anything to anyone and bill it to the victim.Dec 30 05:44
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you read with me quickly a covid post?Dec 30 05:56
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: don't worry too much about the details. If you and Mandy love each other and they see it in the interview or get a sense of it, you will be fine. Key thing is, no criminal record or "burden on the state"Dec 30 05:57
schestowitzthey would fail you on technicalities like these only if they need something to latch onto to justify rejectionDec 30 05:57
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: let me know if you can proofread...Dec 30 05:57
DaemonFC[m]yeahDec 30 06:28
schestowitzthanks!Dec 30 06:28
DaemonFC[m]Sorry, was about the house.Dec 30 06:28
schestowitz 30 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | COVID-19 is a Real Crisis, It Kills a Lot of Humans, But Don’t Let It Kill Human Rights Too | TechrightsDec 30 06:28
schestowitzquickDec 30 06:28
DaemonFC[m]beating the US ‘to market’ or simply jumping the gun.Dec 30 06:33
DaemonFC[m]by simply jumping the gun might read betterDec 30 06:33
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DaemonFC[m](including Russia’a)Dec 30 06:34
DaemonFC[m]Russia'sDec 30 06:34
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DaemonFC[m]"if we’re to use this label sparingly, then only 38% of Russians are not ‘antivaxxers’"Dec 30 06:37
DaemonFC[m]Should read "then certainly 38% of Russians are not 'antivaxxers'".Dec 30 06:37
DaemonFC[m]"Too little is still (un)known about it."Dec 30 06:38
DaemonFC[m]"Too much remains uncertain." maybe?Dec 30 06:38
schestowitzI will add thatDec 30 06:40
schestowitzto clarifyDec 30 06:40
schestowitzthanks, I amended all as you advisedDec 30 06:41
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ )Dec 30 07:28
DaemonFC[m]Also Microsoft: Put more data in the cloud!Dec 30 07:28
schestowitz:-DDec 30 07:28
schestowitzhmmm... typo or article removed?Dec 30 07:30
schestowitz 30 07:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft: SolarWinds hackers' goal was the victims' cloud dataDec 30 07:30
schestowitzoh, missing "/" (trailing)Dec 30 07:30
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schestowitz 30 08:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | New COVID-19 strain UK: What is the new coronavirus variant? - BBC Science Focus MagazineDec 30 08:12
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Extending Android Device Compatibility for Let's Encrypt Certificates - Let's Encrypt - Free SSL/TLS CertificatesDec 30 10:39
schestowitzYes, I saw thatDec 30 10:54
schestowitzdamage controlDec 30 10:54
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amreo[m]Hi. Today schestowitz has written "Dec 30 11:09
amreo[m]Microsoft is telling us (even confirming) Azure layoffs, in spite of Microsoft pretending to have found an alternative and promising future in Clown Computing. They literally join or come to our primary IRC channel, trying to interject damage-limiting PR." in a article about the china migration. Where can I find microsoft messages?Dec 30 11:09
schestowitzhiDec 30 11:25
schestowitzit's in IRC logs from last weekDec 30 11:25
schestowitzI cannot find that too quicklyDec 30 11:25
schestowitzit is also outside my scrolling buffer nowDec 30 11:25
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | California nurse tests positive over a week after receiving Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine -- ABC | Inquirer NewsDec 30 11:57
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vZS1_2schestowitz: "However, with the transition to files, you may soon see non-Make build backends, such as Tup or Visual Studio."Dec 30 12:02
vZS1_2From: 30 12:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Build System Overview — Firefox Source Docs documentationDec 30 12:02
vZS1_2_Visual Studio_Dec 30 12:02
schestowitzvZS1_2: I looked for you earlierDec 30 12:02
schestowitzre Brave adding ipfs supportDec 30 12:03
schestowitzbuilt inDec 30 12:03
vZS1_2That's been there for a while (Brave IPFS support)Dec 30 12:03
vZS1_2I know people who were involved in the alphaDec 30 12:03
schestowitzokDec 30 12:03
vZS1_2Don't know what they were up to but they were sharing their experience of itDec 30 12:03
vZS1_2Seemed to work pretty well for themDec 30 12:04
vZS1_2From what I've been toldDec 30 12:04
schestowitzI've just mentioned the mozilla thingDec 30 12:04
schestowitzvZS1_2: there's a new article about itDec 30 12:04
schestowitz 30 12:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Brave adds support for IPFS distributed P2P websitesDec 30 12:04
vZS1_2> I've just mentioned the mozilla thingDec 30 12:09
vZS1_2Where?Dec 30 12:09
vZS1_2IMO, Brave users get the benefits but that doesn't really do much in the big picture. HTTP gateways to IPFS are basically how most people will begin using IPFS.Dec 30 12:14
vZS1_2IPFS websites are already possible as long as you just use HTTP gateways in your hrefsDec 30 12:15
vZS1_2IPFS "news" is heavily web-centricDec 30 12:17
vZS1_2It really should be more about file sharingDec 30 12:17
vZS1_2The desktop client is a great way to share files for any operating moving around a lot of filesDec 30 12:18
vZS1_2No upload limitsDec 30 12:18
vZS1_2etcDec 30 12:18
vZS1_2Beats sending email attachments for sureDec 30 12:18
vZS1_2s/operating/operationDec 30 12:19
vZS1_2I like to think of IPFS as a P2P ftpDec 30 12:20
vZS1_2Ditch the bloated web junkDec 30 12:20
vZS1_2Keep hypertext limited in scopeDec 30 12:20
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vZS1_2There's also both CLI and GUI options for IPFS and that's helped them a lotDec 30 12:22
vZS1_2Bittorrent is annoying because there is no clean CLI option for people that need to automate itDec 30 12:22
vZS1_2I think the biggest problem IPFS might face is their approach to the DHTDec 30 12:23
vZS1_2It's a single, huge, DHTDec 30 12:23
vZS1_2Bittorrent breaks it up into smaller DHTs (last time I checked)Dec 30 12:23
vZS1_2Things seem to be going alright for both thoughDec 30 12:26
vZS1_2It's suspected that P2P traffic makes up about a third(?) of internet trafficDec 30 12:26
vZS1_2Might see that going up with IPFS in the pictureDec 30 12:27
vZS1_2IPFS also serves as a great alternative to sites like Imguar and pastebinDec 30 12:28
vZS1_2s/Imguar/ImgurDec 30 12:28
vZS1_2Don't have to install unnecessary junkDec 30 12:29
vZS1_2Just a single platform for sharing arbitrary filesDec 30 12:29
schestowitzbrbDec 30 12:32
schestowitzdid a videoDec 30 12:32
vZS1_2I'm gonna dump a few things here and head back to workDec 30 12:33
vZS1_2For DHT differences, we have "Mainline DHT" for BitTorrent and "libp2p" for IPFS.Dec 30 12:33
vZS1_2Also, Firefox build system seems to be lurching towards MS lockin.Dec 30 12:34
vZS1_2Mainline DHT: 30 12:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Mainline DHT - WikipediaDec 30 12:34
vZS1_2libp2p: 30 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - libp2p/libp2p: A modular and extensible networking stack which solves many challenges of peer-to-peer applications.Dec 30 12:35
MinceR 30 12:43
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scientesI need a controllerDec 30 13:35
MinceRatmel?Dec 30 13:38
scientesno, n64 simulatorDec 30 13:38
MinceRah, gamepadDec 30 13:39
DaemonFC[m]That was an odd controller.Dec 30 13:47
DaemonFC[m]I suppose the Switch Pro controller might be easier to map to that than some others.Dec 30 13:47
DaemonFC[m]It has a Z button in the same spot.Dec 30 13:47
MinceRi got a SteelSeries Stratus DuoDec 30 13:48
DaemonFC[m]You can't really adf ipfs to Chrome, Edge, or Vivaldi if it requires modifying the network stack.Dec 30 13:50
scientesyeah its all about ajilityDec 30 13:50
scientesso i need a gamepagDec 30 13:50
DaemonFC[m]I guess I could talk to the Vivaldi developers about adding ipfs from the Brave code.Dec 30 13:50
DaemonFC[m]I filed the proposal to bring in brave adblock and that was incorporated soon after.Dec 30 13:50
DaemonFC[m]Vivaldi was unhappy about manifest v3 and looking for a solution that didn't involve an affected extension.Dec 30 13:51
DaemonFC[m]Even Edge blocks most web ads and trackers in the strict tracking protection settings.Dec 30 13:52
scientesthis higen is lame cause its slowDec 30 13:53
DaemonFC[m]It's comparable to Firefox. Chrome is the only major browser without that level of tracker blocking available.Dec 30 13:53
DaemonFC[m]Hogan's goal was a cycle accurate emulator that would avoid bugs in SNES programs caused by less accurate emulators.Dec 30 13:54
psydroiddid you try bsnes or mednafen?Dec 30 13:54
scientesno but i got toshiDec 30 13:54
scientesyoshiDec 30 13:54
DaemonFC[m]As such that core is the only emulator capable of avoiding major bugs in about a dozen official titles, about 3 unplayable on other emulators, and numerous small glitches on others.Dec 30 13:55
DaemonFC[m]In general it might not matter as much as the slowdown does if you're running titles that are well supported by snes9x, which isn't terrible with accuracy and can run on old Pentium 4 systems with XP just fine, even.Dec 30 13:56
DaemonFC[m]I left my last computer that ran Windows XP at the old house.Dec 30 13:56
scientesyou would think that a project not updated in a number of years would run fine on a current CPUDec 30 13:57
scientesthey must be using odd instructionsDec 30 13:57
DaemonFC[m]I was keeping it around to have a real computer with XP.Dec 30 13:57
DaemonFC[m]Emulators are always quirky and it didn't have an internet connection so the security holes piling up didn't really matter.Dec 30 13:57
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DaemonFC[m]There was some more article churn about Windows Corr OS and Windows 10 X, but that's been going on for years and the platform sounds depressingly bad and years too late to matter even if it was a real thing.Dec 30 14:05
DaemonFC[m]Cutting Windows 10 down to the point where it can only run UWP. Been there. Done that. They called it Windows RT and it was a disaster. They lost a lot of money.Dec 30 14:06
DaemonFC[m]An unmitigated disaster at that. Dec 30 14:07
DaemonFC[m]I ran into some people on Amazon forums when it existed who swore up and down that the Nokia X was a great platform and now that Microsoft had it they would keep it, then the same about Windows Phone and Windows 8 RT.Dec 30 14:08
DaemonFC[m]The problem with these devices is they have no legacy and legacy is all Windows is good at. Without applications your computer doesn't do much and if all Microsoft can come at you with is Edge and Office 365, that's an immediate nonstarter.Dec 30 14:09
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft had a marketing campaign for Windows 10 and they blew it. The rollout and the aggressive forced updates were notorious for being broken and costing people productivity and making any sort of respectable uptime on a home PC impossible.Dec 30 14:10
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DaemonFC[m]Then Microsoft tried turning this into a "feature" of Windows 10 Pro to sell more of those licenses dangling that you could pause updates for a while. Then that situation became untenable and we're back to where you can hold out on two major versions ago with security patches if you want to, even on the Home version.Dec 30 14:12
DaemonFC[m]That's pretty bad when everyone knows your software is bad and you try extortion to let them delay updates that might seriously break something obvious because there was no testing on that build.Dec 30 14:13
DaemonFC[m]The Feedback Hub has no actual actionable feedback even if anyone at Microsoft was reading it and has turned into an Alt-Nazi forum that goes unmoderated.Dec 30 14:13
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psydroidIntel must be getting worried about being tied to a burning software platform as its most prominent added value apart from its own problems with people leaving and being so far behind on production processesDec 30 14:17
MinceR(no audio) 30 14:40
scientesMinceR, if that was made into a loop it would be hard to know when it loopedDec 30 14:43
MinceRthe looping is noticeable >> 30 14:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | ImgurDec 30 14:47
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DaemonFC[m]Intel really has nothing other than Windows to cling to, but Microsoft is equally stuck with x86 and neither of them want to admit it.Dec 30 15:28
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft desperately wants a clean break that it can't honestly expect to have if nobody will compile ARM-native programs.Dec 30 15:29
DaemonFC[m]Nobody actually cares what's inside a Mac or how poorly it runs applications.Dec 30 15:29
DaemonFC[m]Most people buy them and they use them as a $4,000 Chromebook with a really awful window manager.Dec 30 15:30
DaemonFC[m]Seriously, the Mac is so hideously bad both on a technical and usability level that the price tag is just impossible to explain. It's worse than Windows 10 ever was.Dec 30 15:31
DaemonFC[m]It's not like you even pay $4,000 for a laptop and then have a laptop that never crashes and has a fast processor with gobs of memory.Dec 30 15:31
DaemonFC[m]Every single week, JWZ posts to his blog about how his Mac shits itself and corrupts the screen or the coreaudio service which has been around for years is still so broken that every once in a while it hangs itself and the OS doesn't notice and bother to restart it. The only visible problem is that no media plays with the built-in codec framework.Dec 30 15:32
DaemonFC[m]I mean, these rival the worst horror stories and aggravations of any other OS.Dec 30 15:33
MinceR(cat) 30 15:33
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Maricel "needs the $600 check" because even with a six figure income it's not like they could have predicted that some disaster might strike and have any actual savings. In fact, even after the disaster, they go right on living like nothing awful is happening and they spend $600 so three people can have Apple earbuds that'll get lost or broken.Dec 30 15:34
DaemonFC[m]The exact reason the government caps the income qualifications for the payments is that people making under $75,000 a year are the most likely to need the help.Dec 30 15:35
DaemonFC[m]The rest would just drive up the cost of the spending package and either shove it in a bank account or buy airpods.Dec 30 15:35
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DaemonFC[m]I think there really needs to be limits on who gets the checks because the government is now running $6-7 trillion dollar annual deficits and nothing it does is going to get the economy started again, until the virus is quashed, and that will be at least another year, if we're very lucky and everything goes well.Dec 30 15:36
DaemonFC[m]Of course, the Maricels will be complaining that they pay taxes as punishment for being successful and living the real life.Dec 30 15:37
DaemonFC[m]My god, that's the most let them eat cake thing ever, but it's just totally lost on them.Dec 30 15:37
scientesMinceR, you mean felis catusDec 30 15:37
scientesyou have to use the latin names on this channelDec 30 15:37
scientesif you want to be understoodDec 30 15:38
scientesnot those barbaric common namesDec 30 15:38
schestowitz[15:34] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Maricel "needs the $600 check"...Dec 30 15:39
schestowitzbe carefulDec 30 15:39
MinceRi don't have toDec 30 15:39
schestowitzshe might come after your(s) and Mandy's checkDec 30 15:39
scientesif anyone asks you live in a boxDec 30 15:40
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, well, she played her last card when she withdrew the affidavit.Dec 30 15:40
schestowitzShe and Mark must be desperate, seeing they borrowed so much from speculation/presumed 'future'Dec 30 15:40
scientesand subsist off of morning dew and the tear of orphansDec 30 15:40
DaemonFC[m]Swamped with debt and treading water is the smell I'm getting from all of this, and I know more than I'll post here.Dec 30 15:41
DaemonFC[m]But like many people, they just never learn. More goes out than comes in. They could live well within their means, but it's never enough.Dec 30 15:41
DaemonFC[m]I do all these little grocery rebates on my phone and in the last month I've gotten back over $87. They say you can give them your bank login, like that's going to happen.Dec 30 15:42
DaemonFC[m]I just cash them out for Walmart gift cards and buy more groceries.Dec 30 15:42
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you test browser compat for me?Dec 30 15:42
schestowitzwhich OS do you have and browser?Dec 30 15:43
schestowitzit's for video compat I need testingDec 30 15:43
schestowitzFLAC/OggDec 30 15:43
schestowitz[15:41] <DaemonFC[m]> Swamped with debt and treading waterDec 30 15:43
schestowitzeven literallyDec 30 15:43
schestowitzall that money wasted on "Expensive water" will be regrettedDec 30 15:43
schestowitzcould be used to purchase edible goods, instead, when times get rough and she gets back to Tondo Lifestyle(TM).Dec 30 15:44
MinceRalso, i prefer "Felis silvestris catus"Dec 30 15:44
MinceRsince it's descended from Felis silvestris lybicaDec 30 15:44
DaemonFC[m]Android, Linux, Windows.Dec 30 15:45
MinceRand can interbreed with all of Felis silvestris, afaikDec 30 15:45
DaemonFC[m]All the usual suspects.Dec 30 15:45
schestowitzcan you try ?Dec 30 15:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How We Record Videos With Very Low-Budget Gear and Only Free (Libre) Software | TechrightsDec 30 15:45
DaemonFC[m]Flac in an Ogg container should even work with Edge or IE 11 on Windows 10 with the media codecs.Dec 30 15:45
schestowitzit's still uploading the video, but should work for what's uploaded alreadyDec 30 15:45
schestowitzin Firefox I get no picture, just audioDec 30 15:46
schestowitzFF ESR, Debian BusterDec 30 15:46
DaemonFC[m]Audio works on Firefox, but no videoDec 30 15:46
DaemonFC[m]Edge is pretty much Chrome-compatible. Microsoft could have continued pouring money into fixing all of the bugs that Google deliberately puts into their products, but they didn't think there was a point any longer.Dec 30 15:47
DaemonFC[m]It's even less different from Chrome than Vivaldi is.Dec 30 15:47
DaemonFC[m]That's interesting.Dec 30 15:49
DaemonFC[m]The video plays on Edge, but not Firefox.Dec 30 15:49
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scientesahhhhhhDec 30 15:51
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, just audio in Firefox.Dec 30 15:51
scientesthat is why Eor is a donkeyDec 30 15:51
DaemonFC[m]84.0.1 on Windows 10Dec 30 15:51
scientesdonkeys are solidatary unlike horsesDec 30 15:51
DaemonFC[m]I don't know what codecs they use.Dec 30 15:51
DaemonFC[m]The platform ones usually.Dec 30 15:51
DaemonFC[m]So that's strange, because Microsoft does not restrict access to those codecs from any applications.Dec 30 15:52
schestowitzso basically this one is broken for FirefoxDec 30 15:52
schestowitzin Falkon the videos did not play in their previous formDec 30 15:53
schestowitzbut play OK nowDec 30 15:53
scientesI want a unicorn for christmasDec 30 15:53
schestowitzsome media player work with this, some do notDec 30 15:53
schestowitzin Falkon it now works, but not Firefox, so the compatibility got sort ot reversedDec 30 15:53
DaemonFC[m]Firefox reports that it supports Ogg Theora.Dec 30 15:54
DaemonFC[m]I think that's the video codec here.Dec 30 15:54
DaemonFC[m]VP9 should work on anything recent except for Safari.Dec 30 15:54
scientesI wonder if people ride zebrasDec 30 15:55
scientesthat is an epic mountDec 30 15:55
DaemonFC[m]AV1 should work on really new browsers, including Safari I think because they're an AOM member now.Dec 30 15:55
schestowitzIn konqueror it does not playDec 30 15:55
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DaemonFC[m]The trouble with AV1 is that it's so new it's hard to play properly on older computers, even with dav1d.Dec 30 15:55
DaemonFC[m]My 2016 laptop could barely handle it in standard definition with dav1d.Dec 30 15:56
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DaemonFC[m]And it was not a bad laptop at the time.Dec 30 15:56
schestowitzseems to boil down to balance and who gets shafted, or which browsersDec 30 15:56
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DaemonFC[m]To trade file size you have to massively increase encode/decode complexity.Dec 30 15:56
schestowitzI cannot yet find a format that works well across OSes and browses... the patent mess has not helped, software patents that isDec 30 15:56
DaemonFC[m]And there's simply no way around it. So when they say efficient, it's more of a tradeoff. Less CPU/GPU efficient for a larger data reduction.Dec 30 15:57
DaemonFC[m]If people still had large storage locally and weren't streaming, the demand for more computationally complex video codecs wouldn't be there.Dec 30 15:57
DaemonFC[m]I think h264 would have been the last one and the focus would have been on just making the best possible encoder for that.Dec 30 15:58
DaemonFC[m]It's still not a bad codec. It's patented though. Apple jammed it onto the web and actively resisted open media codecs, but the other browser vendors made sure that nothing newer than that was supported from MPEG. Apple has a lot of patents in the h264 pool, not as many on HEVC, and even less on VVC.Dec 30 15:59
DaemonFC[m]So now that h264 patents are closer to sunset, they have less reason to actively refuse web compatibility and lower streaming bandwidth requirements that modern open codecs provide. Dec 30 16:00
DaemonFC[m]They won, but since patents only last a set number of years and Apple is not even innovative enough to get a lot of patents these days (really says something, right?), they didn't come back for another round.Dec 30 16:01
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DaemonFC[m]I'm honestly surprised that Microsoft didn't do a major push for Windows phones years before they did. They don't see anything coming. It's pathetic. Dec 30 16:03
DaemonFC[m]The Xbox got off the ground because they had unlimited money to subsidize it back then until there just wasn't much competition anymore.Dec 30 16:03
DaemonFC[m]They only compete in that sector of the market against one other console.Dec 30 16:03
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "I cannot yet find a format that "> AV1 unless it's pretty old.Dec 30 16:05
DaemonFC[m]Anything older than a year or two and you start having major web compatibility problems these days.Dec 30 16:05
DaemonFC[m]It's not a stable platform. The web platform might as well just be each release of Chrome now.Dec 30 16:06
schestowitzavi seems not suitable for video embedsDec 30 16:06
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schestowitzmaybe webm will be more widely supportedDec 30 16:06
schestowitzbut it's a very google-ish thingDec 30 16:06
schestowitzogg is notDec 30 16:06
scientesWebM VP9 is what you wantDec 30 16:06
DaemonFC[m]WebM with VP9 should work in anything not Safari.Dec 30 16:06
schestowitzi wonder if ogg's money is still in ibm ('red hat')Dec 30 16:06
DaemonFC[m]You'd have to host h264 or AV1 to deal with Safari.Dec 30 16:07
schestowitzok, maybe I'll change to webm thenDec 30 16:07
DaemonFC[m]Yes, the FFMpeg project criticized VP8 severely. Dec 30 16:07
scientesVP9 comes from Real Media people who were bought out by GoogleDec 30 16:07
scientesand when Google released VP9 is immediately obsoleted Theora (ogg video)Dec 30 16:08
scientesor actually I think it is VP8Dec 30 16:08
DaemonFC[m]Probably the harshest point was that the specification is the C source code, so bugs in the C source code are the specification and cannot be fixed. Dec 30 16:08
scientesVP9 is what they are now pushingDec 30 16:08
scientesbut I think it got folded into av1Dec 30 16:08
DaemonFC[m]Safari supports VP9, but only as part of WebRTC.Dec 30 16:11
DaemonFC[m]So they have a codec and they enforce an artificial restriction to avoid <video> working with it.Dec 30 16:11
scientesThe Heavenly Llama is said to drink water from the ocean and urinates as it rains.Dec 30 16:12
scientesniceDec 30 16:12
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DaemonFC[m]+410 dead of COVID today so far with 4 states and DC reporting.Dec 30 16:25
DaemonFC[m]The news was reporting a dip in cases. I was like "Oh, yes, precisely because of Christmas, half as many people died. Great reporting. I'm sure it won't like, just go back up...."Dec 30 16:27
DaemonFC[m]Half the states didn't even report on Christmas or the day before or after, and that's probably why Pennsylvania alone is reporting 310 today.Dec 30 16:27
DaemonFC[m]They're clearing their backlogs at their own pace which will keep the daily count well above 3,000 on its own for quite some time.Dec 30 16:28
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: yesDec 30 16:33
DaemonFC[m]Next to the Rio Grande, but in a few years, swept away by the Rio Grande.Dec 30 16:34
DaemonFC[m]Your tax dollars at work.Dec 30 16:34
schestowitzleg count at the morgueDec 30 16:34
schestowitz"ok, carl, john, and jack walk into a basketball court full of bags...Dec 30 16:35
schestowitzjohn says,Dec 30 16:35
schestowitz"how are we going to count them and spilt them among days to make our state NOT look like a death zone?"Dec 30 16:36
schestowitzjack: let's start with the obese bagsDec 30 16:36
schestowitzcarl: yes, it'll clear space to the 200 we're adding here later todayDec 30 16:36
schestowitzall-time highs in UKDec 30 16:38
schestowitzcase-wise 30 16:38
schestowitz 30 16:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Covid-19 in the UK: How many coronavirus cases are there in your area? - BBC NewsDec 30 16:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: look out for excess deaths in the USDec 30 16:53
schestowitzthose are death certificate countsDec 30 16:53
schestowitzand differences between those and projectionsDec 30 16:53
schestowitzit's difficult to spin or fake thoseDec 30 16:53
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DaemonFC[m]I paid that PSA Serbilis for Mandy's birth certificates and then emailed them our fedex account number.Dec 30 17:10
DaemonFC[m]God, how awful.Dec 30 17:10
DaemonFC[m]I just hope we actually get the documents and that nobody uses that number for fraud.Dec 30 17:11
DaemonFC[m]I really don't know why they can't just bill you for the delivery themselves.Dec 30 17:11
DaemonFC[m]Everything involving a foreign country is weird and shifty it seems.Dec 30 17:11
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schestowitzwhat's the service?Dec 30 17:14
schestowitzfetch and certify birth cert?Dec 30 17:14
schestowitzI think you need power of attorney for thatDec 30 17:14
DaemonFC[m]Two certified copies of his birth certificate.Dec 30 17:14
DaemonFC[m]I just listed it as a self-request. Dec 30 17:14
schestowitzdid you check who they are?Dec 30 17:15
schestowitzlike scientes said, under every rock lurks a rockhead :-)Dec 30 17:15
DaemonFC[m] 30 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Philippine Statistics Authority | Republic of the PhilippinesDec 30 17:15
schestowitzah, ok, they are an official agencyDec 30 17:15
DaemonFC[m]They linked to this: 30 17:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PSA Serbilis Home PageDec 30 17:15
schestowitzseems legit, she said, he said..Dec 30 17:15
DaemonFC[m]So I applied for the document there, since it was linked to from the site.Dec 30 17:16
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, schestowitz I was really skeptical of the thing so I went looking for a and clicked on the apply for documents link, and it took me to that.Dec 30 17:16
schestowitzrianne says make sure there is "Red ribbon"Dec 30 17:17
DaemonFC[m]Well, I already paid them.Dec 30 17:17
DaemonFC[m]Mandy doesn't even know what the hell is going on in his own country, much less this one.Dec 30 17:17
schestowitzlots of dutertards thereDec 30 17:19
schestowitzthink of them like Trump vptersDec 30 17:19
DaemonFC[m]Apparently there's just tons of bureaucratic overlap there.Dec 30 17:19
schestowitz"not traditional politician"Dec 30 17:19
schestowitz"let's vote a thug and criminal in"Dec 30 17:19
schestowitz"because, hey, what can possibly go awry?"Dec 30 17:19
DaemonFC[m]Mom and dad.Dec 30 17:19
schestowitzexactlyDec 30 17:19
schestowitzand gradma tincanDec 30 17:20
schestowitz*grandmaDec 30 17:20
DaemonFC[m]And then somehow making America great means a million coronavirus deaths and double or maybe even triple the unemployment he inherited from Obama.Dec 30 17:20
DaemonFC[m]The worst national conditions, maybe ever, certainly since the Depression.Dec 30 17:20
schestowitzthey will keep redefining unemploymentDec 30 17:20
schestowitzto keep 'plebs' in lineDec 30 17:20
schestowitzto appease the peasantsDec 30 17:20
schestowitzafter a year unemployment will  be 0%Dec 30 17:21
schestowitzbecause no reason to bother looking for a job anymoreDec 30 17:21
schestowitzno job openings leftDec 30 17:21
schestowitzperfect. no unemployment because "no job seeker"Dec 30 17:21
schestowitzor just one person working in a householdDec 30 17:21
schestowitzwhich will pull the kids back inDec 30 17:21
schestowitzand grandmaDec 30 17:21
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, that's what happened after the last recession.Dec 30 17:21
schestowitzcan live on grand's PENSION... while she or the pension lastsDec 30 17:22
DaemonFC[m]Unemployment spiked to like almost 20% and then drifted down, and amazingly at about the same rate as the labor force participation rate dropped.Dec 30 17:22
schestowitzthis is sadDec 30 17:22
DaemonFC[m]The stats are there, they publish them, but you have to know what they mean.Dec 30 17:22
schestowitzI don't mean to joke or 'humoirise' it too muchDec 30 17:22
schestowitzlet alone in a humorous toneDec 30 17:22
schestowitzI am being serious and sarcastic at the same timeDec 30 17:22
DaemonFC[m]And that's what's happening now, Roy.Dec 30 17:23
schestowitzyupDec 30 17:23
DaemonFC[m]Trump inherited nearly 66% labor force participation, and that's not great.Dec 30 17:23
schestowitzhere also, increasinglyDec 30 17:23
schestowitzbut we "got brexit done" yay!Dec 30 17:23
DaemonFC[m]But it's 61.8% now, according to BLS.Dec 30 17:23
schestowitzso... "independent!" or something..Dec 30 17:23
DaemonFC[m]So unemployment goes down because another 4.2% of the working age population ran out of unemployment checks and gave up on applying.Dec 30 17:23
schestowitzwhen did BLS last update it?Dec 30 17:23
DaemonFC[m]Late last month I think.Dec 30 17:24
schestowitzthat's like an additional 10-20 million out of work and capable of WORK!Dec 30 17:24
DaemonFC[m]Yes it is, Roy! Dec 30 17:24
schestowitzwowDec 30 17:24
schestowitzshitDec 30 17:24
schestowitzdepression, guns, suicides.Dec 30 17:24
schestowitzget ready for the freak showDec 30 17:24
DaemonFC[m]So, if you took the pre-2008 recession figure of something like 72% participation, and applied it to what's going on right now....Dec 30 17:24
DaemonFC[m]Close to 30% out of work.Dec 30 17:24
schestowitzI heard of some new mass shooting last night. a 'depressed' vetDec 30 17:24
schestowitzthey don't call them hopelessDec 30 17:25
schestowitzthey classify them as "medical condition"Dec 30 17:25
schestowitz"nothing to worry about, just some poor sick white ol man"Dec 30 17:25
DaemonFC[m]U6 is the broadest definition of unemployment and that was over 14% last time I looked.Dec 30 17:25
schestowitz"stay away from "sick" people... you will be safe"Dec 30 17:25
DaemonFC[m]And to be counted in that, you still have to be applying for jobs.Dec 30 17:25
DaemonFC[m]So this is clearly a very sick jobs market and the fact that Mandy is doing as well as he is despite that is really something.Dec 30 17:26
DaemonFC[m]Then on the radio, they were complaining that 20% of job applicants test positive for marijuana and won't be hired because they smoked a substance that is legal in Illinois and was sold to them by the state.Dec 30 17:26
schestowitzwhat came first?Dec 30 17:27
DaemonFC[m]20%, they won't even consider because of pot, because the federal drug free workplace laws are still there.Dec 30 17:27
schestowitzunemployment?Dec 30 17:27
schestowitzdrugs?Dec 30 17:27
schestowitzI mean, come on, are listeners that dumb?Dec 30 17:27
schestowitzIf you work 8 to 7 you don't have time to find drug dealers and smoke shitDec 30 17:27
schestowitzyou go to bedDec 30 17:27
DaemonFC[m]Well, the legality of marijuana in Illinois changed but I can't imagine that the number of people using it did much.Dec 30 17:28
schestowitzand make money the next dayDec 30 17:28
schestowitzcausality explanation reversedDec 30 17:28
schestowitz"many homeless are there before they used all the money for booze"Dec 30 17:28
schestowitzreality: they use the booze once homeless to forget about their conditionDec 30 17:28
schestowitzBTW, pot isn't so bad. Never did it myself, but...Dec 30 17:28
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, well, once you have no government documents and you're living in a cardboard box, with a system that doesn't want you to get back out from under that....Dec 30 17:29
schestowitzthe rich and powerful drink lots of wineDec 30 17:29
schestowitzafaik, wine does more harm to your body than pot you ingest rather than smokeDec 30 17:29
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, rich people do all kinds of drugs.Dec 30 17:29
DaemonFC[m]They don't have to piss in a cup.Dec 30 17:29
schestowitzand don't get em started on 'anti-depressants'... they say it's medicinalDec 30 17:29
DaemonFC[m]Only people who work are subjected to this.Dec 30 17:29
DaemonFC[m]It's a means by which to degrade people.Dec 30 17:29
DaemonFC[m]Nothing else, really.Dec 30 17:29
schestowitzYes, let me get my medicinal, pharmacy-prescribed cider and beer :-)Dec 30 17:30
schestowitztent cities must have grown a lotDec 30 17:30
schestowitzlast year I read LA has 50,000 homeless Dec 30 17:30
schestowitzand growing, obviouslyDec 30 17:30
DaemonFC[m]Then if you get convicted of a misdemeanor and end up on probation, they make you piss in a cup, even if there was no conceivable connection between the crime and drugs.Dec 30 17:30
DaemonFC[m]It's all a way to degrade and humiliate you, and to make it easier to end up in their vile clutches once again, a second shot to get you for something materially irrelevant.Dec 30 17:31
schestowitzvictim-shamingDec 30 17:31
schestowitzsame for whistleblowersDec 30 17:31
schestowitzmany people think Daniel Pocock is a trollDec 30 17:31
schestowitzjust because he exposed some really nasty people and rogue institutionsDec 30 17:32
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They let you out of probation eventually, if they have to.Dec 30 17:32
schestowitzI heard this as recently as last nightDec 30 17:32
schestowitzprobation is part of the shamingDec 30 17:32
schestowitzyou're not  full citizenDec 30 17:32
DaemonFC[m]But they make it intentionally difficult to fulfill the "contract" by peppering it with all sorts of silly things that nobody else would get in trouble over.Dec 30 17:32
schestowitzyou're human conditionally :-)Dec 30 17:32
DaemonFC[m]The judge can even make it a crime for someone who is illiterate to not obtain a GED.Dec 30 17:33
DaemonFC[m]They can go back to jail because they couldn't even read the test. Dec 30 17:33
DaemonFC[m]This is barbaric.Dec 30 17:33
DaemonFC[m]The system failed them and then punishes them because the system failed them.Dec 30 17:34
DaemonFC[m]No doubt they'll be punished again because of the system failing them again, and again, and again.Dec 30 17:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I got out because I was smart enough to look and see what was required and then figure out a way to check the boxes off.Dec 30 17:35
DaemonFC[m]Even as it aggravated them, they noticed...... They noticed that I agreed to some conditions that I knew it would be easy to weasel out of, but it was right there what you had to do.Dec 30 17:36
DaemonFC[m]I agree to see my doctor, he prescribes the exact same meds and tells them that I don't need any other treatment.Dec 30 17:37
DaemonFC[m]She was pissed.Dec 30 17:37
DaemonFC[m]I stop paying the car and wait a few months to turn it over to Kia so that John loses a bunch of money in fees to get it back. She goes, "I know you're doing this and it doesn't look good that you're putting the victim in your case through that.".Dec 30 17:38
DaemonFC[m]I said, "That's odd, I don't recall there being anything in the probation agreement regarding disposition of a vehicle.".Dec 30 17:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: So I drove the car downstate and abandoned it at a dealer with an empty tank of gas and no insurance and no plates.Dec 30 17:39
DaemonFC[m]They charged John for the car sitting on their lot at like $250 a day for several days, my missed payments, the late fees, a repo charge, a re-delivery fee, and then he had to insure and plate it before they would hand it back.Dec 30 17:40
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't come close to what he put me through and I only wish I could have done worse.Dec 30 17:40
DaemonFC[m]If anything, probation has the effect of pissing you the hell off and encouraging you to figure out a way to get revenge.Dec 30 17:41
DaemonFC[m]That's all it does. I wasn't sorry. I got less sympathetic to the other parties the more I went in there, and all it did was make me more bitter than ever. Dec 30 17:42
DaemonFC[m]It has the total complete and polar opposite effect of MRT.Dec 30 17:42
schestowitznot he's not employedDec 30 17:42
schestowitzno flightsDec 30 17:42
schestowitzso that's another bankruptcyDec 30 17:42
schestowitzfor Luis and PedoJohnDec 30 17:42
schestowitzTSA never replied to me complaintDec 30 17:43
schestowitzthey'd beep and run after you for taking a sandwich to a planeDec 30 17:43
DaemonFC[m]Whatever happens to him it's not enough. It's really not. And if they cared about anything reprehensible that he's done they'd have him shot. Dec 30 17:43
schestowitzbut don't mind it when people report pedophiles working inside the TSADec 30 17:43
DaemonFC[m]Oh he would come home and brag about how much he liked patting down the teenagers.Dec 30 17:44
DaemonFC[m]Not legal age ones either.Dec 30 17:45
DaemonFC[m]Sexually assaulting 14-15 year olds, younger even.Dec 30 17:45
DaemonFC[m]I'm sitting there going "If I leave I have to file bankruptcy. How the fuck did this happen?".Dec 30 17:45
DaemonFC[m]And when he finally pushed me to the point of speaking up for myself, it becomes "Aggravated assault" pled down to "disorderly conduct".Dec 30 17:46
DaemonFC[m]Don't ever raise your voice at someone. If your relationship has fallen apart, get the money out of the bank, get the cats, get your clothes, and disappear while they are at work.Dec 30 17:47
DaemonFC[m]It's what happened anyway, plus criminal charges.Dec 30 17:47
DaemonFC[m]There's so few people in this world who you can trust it's probably a fraction of 1%.Dec 30 17:48
DaemonFC[m]And the other 99.something will find those people who are so broken and misguided that they will actually step out in front of a bus to save them instead of the other way around, and they take advantage.Dec 30 17:49
DaemonFC[m]There are very few functional marriages. Marical+Mark are codependency, debt, and a criminal enterprise.Dec 30 17:50
DaemonFC[m]It's some kind of white collar crime going on and I have no idea what it is, but my spidey sense tells me that "Why the fuck else would you shuffle around so much cryptocurrency?".Dec 30 17:51
DaemonFC[m]Money laundering, of course. Illegal transactions, probably. Dec 30 17:51
DaemonFC[m]But when you're a white collar criminal, the state doesn't really have it out for you as muchDec 30 17:51
DaemonFC[m]I think that the reason they haven't filed Chapter 13 and are working 70+ hour weeks to keep up with the debt instead is that there's probably something really awful that an accountant, like a bankruptcy trustee, would flush out.Dec 30 17:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They were bragging about all the hours they work.Dec 30 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Talk about eating shit and saying you like it and I'll have some more, please.Dec 30 17:59
DaemonFC[m]40 hours a week is too many for people to have to work to have some sort of comfort at our current level of technology.Dec 30 18:00
DaemonFC[m]_Never_ being home to "enjoy" anything you're buying is insanity. Dec 30 18:00
schestowitzyeah, I know thatDec 30 18:01
DaemonFC[m]In fact, this is nuts, for national policy, that 20-30 million are chronically unemployed at this point, and others are working 40-70 hours a week.Dec 30 18:01
schestowitzI know some people like thatDec 30 18:01
schestowitzit's a paradox, innnnit?Dec 30 18:01
schestowitzthe more you work, the more money you moreDec 30 18:01
DaemonFC[m]Other countries take care of this by reducing the full time workweek to 34 hours and raising the wages so you live fine on that.Dec 30 18:01
schestowitzthe more money you make, the bigger the home (I know it's an oversimplification)Dec 30 18:02
schestowitznow put the two TOGETHERDec 30 18:02
schestowitzand you have a paradoxDec 30 18:02
schestowitzpeople with the biggest houses use their houses the leastDec 30 18:02
schestowitzand so you have these 'white elephant' homesDec 30 18:02
schestowitzexpensive to maintain, no practical useDec 30 18:02
DaemonFC[m]Well, Obamacare was designed to lower the workweek, but all it really did was discourage productivity and make health insurance unaffordable.Dec 30 18:02
schestowitzjust thereDec 30 18:02
schestowitza white elepahantDec 30 18:02
DaemonFC[m]Because to make more money, you spent $5 for each additional dollar or so that you made on health insurance.Dec 30 18:03
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DaemonFC[m]Because the money for the insurance won't come in from the government anymore.Dec 30 18:03
schestowitzyeahDec 30 18:03
schestowitzwell, this month I do extra shiftDec 30 18:03
schestowitzbut they're taxed a lotDec 30 18:03
DaemonFC[m]And all of the focus is keeping monthly premiums from looking like a total disaster.Dec 30 18:03
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schestowitzthe more shifts, the more they're taxedDec 30 18:03
schestowitzso no incentive to do more than full time reallyDec 30 18:03
DaemonFC[m]So it's great that you can get a policy for $462, but then you look at the policy and it's certainly not the kind of policy you had 20 years ago.Dec 30 18:04
schestowitzunless I want 66% the salary for additional hoursDec 30 18:04
DaemonFC[m]You're talking $3,000 deductibles and shitty doctors who will agree to bad compensation, and they don't pay for certain drugs, and so on.Dec 30 18:04
DaemonFC[m]So not only can you just barely afford the premiums, but then you go to use the insurance, find out that all your claims are out of pocket anyway on top of the premiums, and then you file bankruptcy because of all the premiums and deductibles.Dec 30 18:05
DaemonFC[m]This is utter insanity and it is a terrible law.Dec 30 18:06
DaemonFC[m]Nobody will fix it, there's no consensus on repeal.Dec 30 18:06
DaemonFC[m]So we're stuck in the mud spinning our tires and nobody wins except the insurance companies.Dec 30 18:06
DaemonFC[m]Which.....was the point all along.Dec 30 18:06
DaemonFC[m]And many people are thrilled with the idea of divided government because they've grown so used to the fact that when the government does something it just means more headaches, so they split the election and make it so that the two parties don't want to give each other much and all that passes are the budget and a couple other things.Dec 30 18:07
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DaemonFC[m]It's really not so hard to see how Biden was elected in the same election that made Republicans in Congress more powerful than before.Dec 30 18:08
DaemonFC[m]I just don't think people want things going too far one way or the other and don't tolerate it for very long when they see what they're getting from one party control.Dec 30 18:08
DaemonFC[m]The problem is that it comes in waves, and so by the time you can vote your way out of the mess the damage is done, and then things return to the center for a while, and then the other party gets in and does what they want for a while. Never ends.Dec 30 18:09
DaemonFC[m]So, especially the stock market. Right?Dec 30 18:10
DaemonFC[m]They see the results of the election and go woohoo, log jam!Dec 30 18:10
DaemonFC[m]Anyway...Dec 30 18:11
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It says your legal spouse can request your birth certificate, but under the laws of the Philippines we're not married and I'm just some guy.Dec 30 18:11
DaemonFC[m]Because the Dutertards.....Dec 30 18:11
DaemonFC[m]Iglesia is an entire religion of them.Dec 30 18:11
DaemonFC[m]And while they're only a few percent, they COMMAND all of their followers to vote for Duterte.Dec 30 18:12
DaemonFC[m]When I did go to church, I can tell you that it was lopsided in favor of the Republican Party, but in no actual Christian church in America, does the Republican Party get 100% of the vote.Dec 30 18:12
DaemonFC[m]They can get 77-78% of Evangelicals, but they don't get 100%.Dec 30 18:13
DaemonFC[m]And for the most part, nobody is up there commanding you to vote a certain way or for a particular person.Dec 30 18:13
schestowitzreligion is politicsDec 30 18:14
schestowitzdisguised as "for divine something"Dec 30 18:14
DaemonFC[m]The history of anti-Catholic sentiment in the US is so bad that many states put anti-Catholic amendments into their constitutions, even.Dec 30 18:14
schestowitzit's a powerful form of religion that can claim to be "offended' and censor critics based on invoking "holy" BSDec 30 18:14
schestowitzimagine a republican party that says this and that is holy and you insult x, y...Dec 30 18:15
DaemonFC[m]For most Protestants, "Catholic" is up there with "Atheist" or "devil worshiper" or and not quite as bad as "Muslim".Dec 30 18:15
DaemonFC[m]There's nothing close to any sort of generalized agreement about Christianity, so it can't be called a single religion.Dec 30 18:15
DaemonFC[m]And they can't all be right.Dec 30 18:15
DaemonFC[m]Even if you are willing to stipulate that someone may be right, most of them are wrong, and maybe even damning themselves for all eternity even though they are very devout. Dec 30 18:16
DaemonFC[m]So my mom church hops over the years, not even realizing the irony that if she died at any particular moment there's no agreement even among Protestants that she would have gone to heaven.Dec 30 18:17
DaemonFC[m]And each time she lands somewhere, they're right and everyone else is cuckoo, until next time.Dec 30 18:17
DaemonFC[m]Everyone alive is circling the drain, but as people get closer, they start going oh fuck oh fuck what about all that horrible shit I did. Time to get everything in order.Dec 30 18:19
DaemonFC[m]And so they don't run around panicking, they tend to get religious.Dec 30 18:19
DaemonFC[m]Young people don't tend to care about religion and it's not because they're so smart. It's the same reason they don't fear taking other risks, like unprotected sex or speeding.Dec 30 18:20
schestowitzmany holidays and traditions were built around religionsDec 30 18:21
schestowitzpagan staff, costumesDec 30 18:22
DaemonFC[m]Of course they were.Dec 30 18:22
schestowitzreligion at that level is social uniformity and identityDec 30 18:22
schestowitzI have no problem with thoseDec 30 18:22
DaemonFC[m]At immigration they might ask things like which holiday is most important in your house.Dec 30 18:22
schestowitzwe have the xmas tree lit up nowDec 30 18:22
DaemonFC[m]I don't see any of them as terribly important.Dec 30 18:22
DaemonFC[m]Each year, you get older.Dec 30 18:22
DaemonFC[m]Most of them are from religions I'm not a member of, corporate cesspits, or both.Dec 30 18:23
schestowitzyou can make something uopDec 30 18:23
schestowitzmake up a holidayDec 30 18:23
schestowitzto have fun with the immigration peopleDec 30 18:23
schestowitzkittykittycatcatDec 30 18:23
schestowitz"We feed stray cats" holidayDec 30 18:24
DaemonFC[m]Talk about Grav-Mass and how Richard Stallman made me take an active interest in it.Dec 30 18:24
DaemonFC[m]It is Sir Isaac Newton's birthday and all.Dec 30 18:24
schestowitzmy phd supervisor was also born that dayDec 30 18:25
schestowitzit's not like you get birthday cakesDec 30 18:25
DaemonFC[m]What gifts did you exchange for each other's birthday?Dec 30 18:26
DaemonFC[m]Oh, we don't really do that. We may go out to eat somewhere.Dec 30 18:26
DaemonFC[m]You honestly can blame the Coronavirus for a lot of bad shit.Dec 30 18:27
DaemonFC[m]"Oh, Mandy has friends from work but we can't go do anything with them because they could cough on us and we'd die.".Dec 30 18:27
schestowitzthe peaks of life... having a MEALDec 30 18:32
schestowitzand "COKE!"Dec 30 18:32
schestowitzthe ads here say you MUST have a COKE to have a REAL XmasDec 30 18:32
schestowitzno xmas would be xmas without ddt in the water you drink xmas day...Dec 30 18:32
DaemonFC[m]It's part of Maricel's "real life" no doubt.Dec 30 18:33
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DaemonFC[m]Now Google is severely messing up Gmail on Firefox.Dec 30 19:00
DaemonFC[m] 30 19:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rep.-elect Luke Letlow died from heart attack after procedure related to coronavirus | Fox NewsDec 30 19:04
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I have no idea why Mandy thought it was a good idea to come to the United States.Dec 30 19:19
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't sound like life was actually going horribly in the Philippines.Dec 30 19:19
DaemonFC[m]He had a condo that he split bills with a roommate for, and good weather all the time and a steady job.Dec 30 19:19
DaemonFC[m]Instead he comes over to a country that is falling apart, of course no way to know THIS would happen, but he must have known what his sister was like.Dec 30 19:20
DaemonFC[m]I would have just stayed the fuck out of that, honestly.Dec 30 19:20
DaemonFC[m]The same sort of people got in power in the US for long enough to really screw things up, and they managed to brainwash my parents into thinking THIS is great.Dec 30 19:21
DaemonFC[m]We'll never be finished paying for the mess that Trump made.Dec 30 19:22
DaemonFC[m]Even if Biden wanted to and had a Congress cooperate with everything that we must do (which he doesn't and won't), it would take many years and lots more carnage.Dec 30 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Trump said "This American carnage ends here and it ends now!" and then presided over the lowest manufacturing index since the 70s and the worst pandemic since 1918, most of which was preventable.Dec 30 19:24
DaemonFC[m]The Consumer Confidence index is falling rapidly.Dec 30 19:28
DaemonFC[m]At this pace it'll probably be where it was at during the Great Recession in another few months, tops.Dec 30 19:29
DaemonFC[m]I can't even imagine how it would be at 88.6 with 42% of restaurants in Indiana on schedule to fail by March despite no indoor dining bans.Dec 30 19:29
DaemonFC[m]I'd imagine the situation for restaurants is worse in Illinois.Dec 30 19:30
DaemonFC[m]Restaurants are always a terrible business to get into, schestowitz Dec 30 19:30
DaemonFC[m]Half of them fail within the first 6 months.Dec 30 19:30
DaemonFC[m]People get loans and then open up and find out that there's not as much market demand as they thought there was or that their restaurant is failing to distinguish itself and is just fighting over the same customers as the other 50 of them in the next 5 blocks.Dec 30 19:31
DaemonFC[m]So, we were in a restaurant bubble.Dec 30 19:31
DaemonFC[m]It's not all about the virus. It's about unemployment in general leading to a drop in disposable income, which already wasn't fantastic.Dec 30 19:33
MinceR 30 19:34
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DaemonFC[m]People must eat, but they all go to the store, and that's a system that was set up to be dangerously efficient and all it took was one day's panic buying to clean the shelves of everything at every store in April.Dec 30 19:34
DaemonFC[m]I thought for sure there was going to be rioting over food at some point.Dec 30 19:35
DaemonFC[m]They say they got it under control, but they're misleading people still.Dec 30 19:35
DaemonFC[m]I was at Walmart today and they were completely out of store brand minute rice and store brand butter, just to name a couple of things.Dec 30 19:35
DaemonFC[m]The spice aisle looks pretty bad and that's been consistent for several months.Dec 30 19:36
DaemonFC[m]People had started making their way into the brand name butter. I had a rebate for one of them on my phone so I tossed it in the cart and took the rebate. Dec 30 19:36
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: Eventual ConsistencyDec 30 19:47
DaemonFC[m] 30 19:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | U.K. hit with worst recession in 300 years amid COVID surgeDec 30 19:49
schestowitzMSN?!Dec 30 19:51
DaemonFC[m]Now they're removing statues of Abraham Lincoln in Boston.Dec 30 19:52
DaemonFC[m]Because racism.Dec 30 19:52
schestowitzdistractrionDec 30 19:53
schestowitzyour economy is tankingDec 30 19:53
schestowitzand media incites race fuedsDec 30 19:53
schestowitzover f'ing statuesDec 30 19:53
schestowitzfocus on the real newsDec 30 19:53
schestowitz*feudsDec 30 19:54
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine that the UK is facing the worst recession in 300 years while our economy is "doing well nothing to see here".Dec 30 19:58
schestowitzDon't link to Microsoft "SN", it is trashDec 30 20:00
schestowitzprovoocative nonsenseDec 30 20:01
schestowitz100 years ago people had no hot bathsDec 30 20:01
schestowitzworse issues than thisDec 30 20:01
schestowitzMSN is pure trashDec 30 20:01
schestowitzI don't even want to see their trash, with vaccine PR for bill and who knows what elseDec 30 20:01
schestowitzlike telling blacks the statues need to be removed and other sectarian crapDec 30 20:01
DaemonFC[m] 30 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | 70,000 More Americans Will Die Before Inauguration DayDec 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]100,000 a month, basically, at this rate, to COVID.Dec 30 20:06
DaemonFC[m]To say 100,000 a month from a single cause of death in a country of something like 320 million is bad is the mother of all understatements.Dec 30 20:08
DaemonFC[m]Just the official count at that, not "excess deaths".Dec 30 20:09
DaemonFC[m]It's basically another cancer, heart disease, and suicides put together and then some, on an annualized basis, at this rate.Dec 30 20:09
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